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WE ARE GONNA GET STARTED WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 14TH.
UM, DOES, BEFORE WE GET STARTED, DOES ANYBODY REQUIRE TRANSLATION SERVICES FOR TODAY? I, UM, MM-HMM.
UM, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
WE HAVE OUR CONSENT AGENDA AND OUR INDIVIDUAL AGENDA.
THE COMBINED HEARING AGENDA ARE CASES THAT, UH, DO NOT REQUIRE FURTHER DETAILED DISCUSSION, AND NO ONE IN THE AUDIENCE HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
UM, SO THE ITEMS ON CONSENT, EVERYTHING, EXCUSE ME.
EVERYTHING IS ON CONSENT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN.
ITEMS NUMBER 7, 8, 14, AND 17, WHICH HAVE BEEN PULLED FOR RECUSAL AND ITEM NUMBERS, 19, 20, 22, 23, AND 24.
SO, BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE, IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT IS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ONE OF THE CONSENT NUMBER 18, AGENDA ITEMS AND NUMBER EIGHTEEN'S BEEN POSTPONED.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THESE NUMBERS ARE FOR.
UM, COMMISSIONER GARCIA? HERE.
SO NOW WE'LL GO BACK TO APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.
CAN I GET A MOTION FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA? SO MOVED.
THERE WAS A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ORIAN, AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PECK.
COMM UH, COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES.
UH, COMM COMMISSIONER CARILLO.
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9 0 0 3.AND COMMISSIONER BUSTA MONTE HAS LEFT THE ROOM.
CAN WE DO 'EM ALL AT ONCE? MM-HMM.
COMMISSIONER ORIAN IS LEAVING THE ROOM IS NOW GONE.
CAN I GET A MOTION FOR THE ITEMS? HOPEFUL THAT I'VE BEEN PULLED FOR RECUSAL.
UH, THERE'S A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER PECK.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA.
UH, UM, COMMISSIONER HANES? YES.
MOTION PASSES FOR, UM, FOR APPROVAL.
IT IS 9 0 4 AND COMMISSIONERS ORY AB BUSANTE HAVE RETURNED TO THE MEETING STAFF.
CAN YOU REMIND ME ON 18 IF WE NEED TO HEAR THAT ITEM, OR SINCE IT'S BEEN POSTPONED, DO WE NEED A MOTION? NO, IT'S, IT'S COMPLETELY POSTPONED.
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ON TO ITEM NUMBER 19, SARAH.PRESENTATION ANN AVIVA'S ZONING PLANNER.
ITEM NUMBER 19 IS A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE MIDTOWN AREA REGIONAL CENTER PLAN FROM EMPLOYMENT FLEX MIXED USE TO REGIONAL MIXED USE AND IS GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 200 BLOCK OF WEST JOSEPHINE STREET.
THERE WERE 89 NOTICES SENT WITH TWO RETURN IN FAVOR, ZERO IN OPPOSITION.
TOBIN HILL COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT AND TOBIN HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS ALSO IN SUPPORT.
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AND OUTSIDE 200 FEET, THERE WAS ONE IN OPPOSITION.THE PROPOSED LAND USE AMENDMENT FROM EMPLOYMENT FLEX MIXED USE TO REGIONAL MIXED USE IS REQUESTED TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO IDZ THREE HIGH INTENSITY INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE DISTRICT WITH USE PERMITTED FOR 1000 DWELLING UNITS, BAR, TAVERN, AND C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
THIS AREA WAS INTENTIONALLY DESIGNATED EMPLOYMENT FLEX MIXED USE IN THE ADOPTION OF THE MIDTOWN AREA CENTER, MIDTOWN AREA REGIONAL CENTER PLAN IN JUNE, 2019 TO ACCOMMODATE A MIX OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL LAND USES.
IT IS ESSENTIALLY THE ONLY PART OF THE MIDTOWN AREA REGIONAL CENTER PLAN WITH THIS LAND USE DESIGNATION AND CURRENTLY SERVES AS A TRANSITION BETWEEN THE REGIONAL MIXED USE AND THE URBAN LOAD DENSITY FOUND IN PROXIMITY TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THE CURRENT LAND USE CATEGORY SUPPORTS THE PROPOSED USES OF BAR, TAVERN AND C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, BUT DOES NOT SUPPORT THE DENSITY PROPOSED, WHICH IS 1000 DWELLING UNITS.
IT IS STAFF'S POSITION THAT THE APPLICANT COULD UTILIZE THE EXISTING EMPLOYMENT FLEX MIXED USE CATEGORY BY MODIFYING THEIR RESIDENTIAL DENSITY TO FIT THE CURRENT LAND USE CATEGORY WHILE STILL ACCOMMODATING ADDITIONAL RE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY.
THIS WOULD NEGATE THE NEED FOR A PLAN AMENDMENT.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT FOR THIS CASE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
PATRICK CHRISTENSEN, THREE 10 SOUTH ST.
UM, WHAT WE'RE HERE TODAY ON IS REALLY A TRANSFORMATIVE PROJECT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IN THE NEAR PEARL AREA.
THIS IS A PROPOSED VIEW LOOKING FROM ST.
MARY STREET TOWARDS BROADWAY AT POLK STREET.
AND I'LL SHOW YOU THE SITE PLAN.
I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PLAN, BUT I GOTTA TELL YOU ABOUT A FEW DETAILS SO YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THE, THE NATURE OF OUR REQUEST.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE TRYING TO DO HIGH-RISE WITH MID-RISE, MID, MID TO HIGH-RISE WITH GROUND FLOOR RETAIL.
OKAY, SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDED DENIAL BECAUSE OUR CURRENT DESIGNATION IS EMPLOYMENT FLEX MIXED USE, WHICH REALLY LEAVES US WITH A MAXIMUM DENSITY OF 33 UNITS PER ACRE.
NOW, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE WITH THE REAL ESTATE COSTS AND EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON AT THE PEARL, IF WE DO ANYTHING AT 33 UNITS PER ACRE, WE'RE COMPLETELY PRICING OURSELVES OUT OF THE MARKET.
IT IS ULTRA LUXURY APARTMENTS, AND THAT JUST DOES NOT WORK IN THIS AREA.
SO WE ASKED FOR REGIONAL MIXED USE, WHICH THE, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO THROW ANY STAFF UNDER THE BUS HERE, BUT THE PLANNING STAFF ARE SAYING, WELL, THAT CAPS US OUT AT MF 65.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE REGIONAL MIXED USE ALSO INCLUDES THE D DESIGNATION FOR DOWNTOWN.
NOW, THIS ISN'T IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, BUT THE D DESIGNATION ALLOWS ANY DENSITY, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FOCUS ON.
AND ALTHOUGH WE WERE ASKING FOR A THOUSAND UNITS, IT'S A FIVE ACRE PROPERTY, AND SO IT'S JUST SHY OF 200 UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH I'M GONNA SHOW YOU SOME EXAMPLES AT THE END OF MY PRESENTATION.
IT'S VERY COMMON IN THE PEARL AREA.
SO THIS IS BASICALLY OUR SITES.
WE HAVE FOUR SITES, A, B, C, AND D.
THE SITE I SH THE, THE, THE FIRST PHOTO I SHOWED, OR DRAWING I SHOWED YOU WAS BASICALLY BETWEEN B AND D LOOKING SOUTHEAST TOWARDS BROADWAY.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH BOTH TOBIN HILLS.
THEY'VE BEEN GREAT THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS.
UM, WE'VE BEEN REDUCING OUR HEIGHT, MAKING SOME CHANGES, BUFFERS LIMITING HEIGHT NEXT TO EXISTING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
AND THAT'S HOW WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO KIND OF WORK WITH THEM AND, AND GET THEIR SUPPORT FOR THE PROJECT.
SO THIS IS KIND OF, I KNOW AGAIN, NOT PLANTINGS, BUT THIS IS KIND OF WHERE WE ARE AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, DENSITIES AND HEIGHTS.
AND THERE'S THAT, THAT SHOT AGAIN.
AND THEN THIS WOULD BE ON GRAYSON LOOKING NORTH ON POLK STREET TOWARDS JOSEPHINE.
THE IDEA THERE IS THAT AT A LATER TIME, WE'LL COME TO THE CITY AND SEE IF THERE'S SOME WAY WE COULD DO, LIKE THEY DO IN NEW ORLEANS WHERE STREETS ARE CLOSED TO VEHICULAR TRAFFIC FROM 10:00 AM TO SAY MIDNIGHT 2:00 AM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THEN FIRST THING IN THE MORNING, TRUCKS CAN MAKE THEIR DELIVERIES 'CAUSE THEY REALLY WANT TO HAVE RESTAURANTS AND SHOPS ALL THE WAY DOWN THE STREET.
AND THEN THIS IS THAT CORNER OF POLK AND JOSEPHINE ONCE AGAIN.
AND THESE ARE SOME EXAMPLES I WANNA SHOW YOU.
SO PLANNING STAFF IS SAYING THAT, WELL, SINCE WE JUST UPDATED THE PLAN, WE HAVE TO GO WITH WHAT THESE, WHAT THE PLAN DESIGNATION LIMITS ARE THAT 33 UNITS PER ACRE, 65 UNITS PER ACRE I TOLD YOU ABOUT.
UM, BUT THE REASON WHY WE HAVE THE PLAN AMENDMENT PROCESS, AND THE REASON WHY I'M HERE TODAY IS THAT YOU COME TO A, A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATE AND SAY, HEY, WE'RE DOING A, WE'RE REVISING YOUR PLAN FOR THIS WHOLE AREA.
WELL, IF THERE'S NO PROJECT, THERE'S NO DEVELOPER COMING TO THEM WITH A MEANS TO LIMIT HEIGHT LIMIT USES.
WHY WOULD THEY WANT TO JUST GRANT A, A, A BLANK CHECK FOR EXTRA DENSITY? THE THE PURPOSE OF THE PROCESS IS SURE THEY'RE GONNA RECOMMEND A LOWER DENSITY, BUT THEN SOMEONE LIKE ME AND THE DEVELOPERS COME FORWARD AND SAY, OKAY, HERE'S OUR ACTUAL PROJECT.
HERE'S WHAT WE ACTUALLY WANT TO DO AND THIS IS WHY WE NEED A PLANNED AMENDMENT.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.
SO I JUST WANNA SHOW YOU A FEW OF THESE EXAMPLES.
SO THIS IS LITERALLY AT THE OTHER END OF OUR BLOCK AT, UH, JOSEPHINE AND
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MYRTLE.AND THIS IS 128 UNITS BREAKER EMPLOYMENT FLEX.
THAT'S OUR CURRENT DESIGNATION.
STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL ON THAT CASE.
AGAIN, EMPLOYMENT FLEX, 211 UNITS PER ACRE.
I'M ONLY ASKING FOR 200 AND STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.
THIS WAS REGIONAL MIXED USE, 212 UNITS PER ACRE, AGAIN, AT THE CORNER OF EUCLID AND LOCUST STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.
AND FINALLY, JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO, UH, CLOSER TO THE PEARL AT 1 0 2 EAST JOSEPHINE, THEY'RE ASKING FOR 140 UNITS PER ACRE AND STAFF'S RECORDING APPROVAL.
NOW THAT'S THE DESIGNATION I'M ASKING FOR TODAY, THE REGIONAL MIXED USE.
BUT, UM, AND THAT'S, THAT'S MY PRESENTATION.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
LIKE I SAID, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS, THEY'RE SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROJECT AND WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT.
BEFORE, BEFORE WE GET TO COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS, UM, WE HAVE TWO CITIZENS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, UM, MR. JOSE ALFARO? YES.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, UM, FOR THE RECORD.
AND I BELIEVE THAT PROJECT LABEL D OR THE ONE ON THE, THIS IS, UH, BACKS UP ON THE, ON THE, I GUESS IT WOULD BE THE NORTH SIDE OF JOSEPHINE.
UM, THAT PROPERTY BACKS UP TO MY PROPERTY.
SO I'M CURIOUS AS TO WHAT IS, ARE THERE ANY MORE DETAILS AS TO WHAT'S GOING ON IN THERE? WHAT ARE THEY PLANNING TO BUILD IN THAT SECTOR D THAT HE OUTLINED? THAT'S MY QUESTION.
AND THEN WE HAVE CHRIS, I'M NOT, I WILL SAY YOUR LAST NAME.
I'M SORRY I CAN'T READ YOUR WRITING.
MY NAME IS CHRIS KERZ ON, I LIVE AT 1528 WEST MULBERRY STREET IN COUNCIL DISTRICT ONE.
UM, OPPOSED TO WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED HERE, I KIND OF DON'T UNDERSTAND THE ARGUMENT THAT THE DEVELOPER'S MAKING.
HE'S SAYING THE PROPERTY VALUES, MEANING WHAT HE'S GONNA PAY FOR THE PROPERTY, ARE REQUIRING TO DO A DENSITY THAT IS SIX TIMES WHAT THE GENERAL PLAN ALLOWS FOR.
THAT'S A FUNCTION OF THE MARKET.
IF THEY'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE PROPERTY, THEY HAVE TO WAIT TILL THE MARKET ADJUSTS OR BUILD SOMETHING THAT MEETS THE MARKET.
THESE GENERAL PLANS ARE DONE PURPOSELY.
PEOPLE KNEW THE PEARL WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.
THEY KNEW, KNEW WHAT WAS PROPOSED FOR THE AREA.
AND THE GENERAL PLAN THAT'S IN PLACE NOW PURPOSELY DESIGNATED THIS PROPERTY FOR MF 33 IF IT WAS GONNA BE RESIDENTIAL OR FOR OTHER TYPES OF USES THAT THAT FIT BETTER WITH WHAT THE COMMUNITY REQUIRES.
THAT, UM, WHAT I THINK THE DEVELOPER FAILED TO POINT OUT IS THESE HIGHER DENSITY PROJECTS ARE MUCH CLOSER TO THE PEARL THAN THIS IS, I BELIEVE THE GENERAL PLAN CALLS FOR STEP DOWN DENSITY AS YOU MOVE AWAY FROM THE PEARL.
AND I THINK THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.
UM, CONFUSED BY THE, THE COMMENT THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION SUPPORTS THIS.
'CAUSE I'VE ACTUALLY HEARD DIFFERENTLY FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THAT THEY WERE STILL WAITING AS OF YESTERDAY FOR ADDITIONAL DETAIL ON THE DEVELOPMENT.
SO I WOULD ASK THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION CONSIDER WHAT THE GENERAL PLAN ALLOWS FOR, UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY SPENT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO PUT THESE PLANS TOGETHER.
STAFF HAS SPENT TIME RESEARCHING THIS AND IS LOOKING AT THE WHOLE PRO, THE WHOLE AREA.
THEY'RE NOT JUST LOOKING AT THESE COUPLE OF BLOCKS ALONG JOSEPHINE STREET AND DETERMINED THAT IT IS NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY AS A WHOLE.
'CAUSE THAT'S THE WAY THEY'RE LOOKING AT IT.
AND FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO BE IMPACTED.
AS TO THE GENTLEMAN THAT JUST SPOKE, I BELIEVE IT'S GONNA BE A FIVE STORY BUILDING THAT'LL ABUT YOUR PROPERTY, WHICH THAT'S THE LAST PLAN THAT I SAW OVER 175 UNITS ON THAT PROPERTY UP AGAINST SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
JUST DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT, BUT THIS JUST ISN'T THE RIGHT LOCATION FOR IT.
IT SHOULD BE SLIGHTLY CLOSER TO THE PEARL AND MORE IN KEEPING, IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO GO FROM A SINGLE FAMILY, ONE STORY HOUSE TO, ALTHOUGH IT TRANSITIONS, BUT IT IS EVENTUALLY GONNA BE 175 UNITS.
AND IT MIGHT BE, I THINK IT ACTUALLY MIGHT BE AN EIGHT STORY BUILDING THAT'S PROPOSED FOR, UM, WHAT THEY CALL SITE PLAN D.
SO AGAIN, I THINK THE COMMISSION MEMBERS SHOULD TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE GEN, THE GENERAL PLAN THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE, WHY IT'S THERE, THAT IT DOES REFLECT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THE PEARL AND THAT DEVELOPMENT'S HAPPENING, THAT THIS IS JUST TOO IMPACTFUL ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IT SURROUNDS.
UM, MR. CHRISTENSEN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME BACK UP AND RESPOND TO ANYTHING? YES.
COMMISSIONERS PATRICK CHRISTENSEN AGAIN, UM, TO ANSWER THE GENTLEMAN'S QUESTIONS, QUESTIONS ON ASHLEY.
I KNOW IT'S SITE, VERY SITE SPECIFIC AND THIS IS PLANNING, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ANSWER HIS QUESTIONS.
WHAT WE'VE AGREED TO AND WORKED OUT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS THERE WILL BE A DRIVE BACK THERE, A 10 FOOT,
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UM, NO BUILD AREA.SO NO ONE'S GONNA PUT FIVE STORIES RIGHT, RIGHT UP AGAINST ANYONE'S BACKYARD FENCE.
PLUS, WE'RE LIMITING OURSELVES TO TWO STORIES WITHIN THE FIRST 50 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
SO THE BUILDING WILL BE, WILL BE LOCATED ON JOSEPHINE STREET, GO DOWN, THEN THERE'LL BE BASICALLY TWO STORIES BEHIND IT, BEHIND THE BUILDING AND A LITTLE, UH, BUILDING SET BACK TO, TO THE, TO THE BACKYARD FENCES OF THOSE PROPERTIES.
SO WE'VE DONE SHADING MODELS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE DON'T WANT TO PUT ANYTHING OVER ANYONE'S BACKYARD, UM, TO RESPOND TO THE OTHER GENTLEMAN'S CONCERNS.
UM, LIKE I SAID, THE CURRENT PLAN AND THE WAY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS INTERPRETING THAT JUST DOES NOT SUPPORT WHAT IS FEASIBLE WITHIN THIS AREA.
UM, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WE DID, YOU KNOW, AS HE WAS SAYING, IT'S NOT, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO HAVE TALL BUILDINGS NEXT DOOR TO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID WAS ALONG ST.
MARY'S STREET, AGAIN, IN WORKING WITH THE TWO NEIGHBORHOODS, WHAT WE PROPOSED THERE IS THAT ON ST.
MARY'S STREET, IT WILL ONLY BE THREE AND A HALF STORIES WITH A 45 FOOT MAXIMUM HEIGHTS.
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO THERE IS SORT OF THE OLD BROOKLYN BROWNSTONE STEP DOWN, WALK UP.
SO WE'LL HAVE APARTMENTS THAT ARE HALF, LIKE HALF OF A, A FLOOR BELOW GROUND BELOW GRADE FOR EITHER SMALL OFFICES OR SMALL EFFICIENCY APARTMENT UNITS.
AND THEN ABOVE THAT YOU'LL HAVE STAIRS WALKING UP TO APARTMENTS ABOVE THAT.
SO KIND OF A VERY NEIGHBORHOOD FRIENDLY, STREET FOCUSED TYPE OF TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THERE ON ST.
AND SO THAT'S WHY, AGAIN, I'M, I'M GETTING INTO ZONING, BUT, UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBOR TO KIND OF JUST ADDRESS EVERY ONE OF THEIR CONCERNS AND THEY'VE BEEN VERY, VERY GOOD AND VERY SUPPORTIVE.
BUT ON THE PLAN AMENDMENT SIDE, I DEFINITELY HAVE TO HAVE THE PLAN AMENDMENT SO THAT I CAN SUPPORT THE DENSITY THAT WILL SUPPORT THIS PROJECT AND ALLOW US TO DO A GOOD TRANSFORMATIVE PROJECT FOR THE NEAR PAROLE AREA.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
OKAY, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START WITH COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS.
I'LL START, AM I RIGHT WITH COMMISSIONER ZUKI? UM, I SEE HERE SEVERAL SITES WITH SEVERAL, UH, RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
SO OVERALL YOU, THIS IS THE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS YOU WANTED TO ADD.
I, I APOLOGIZE I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE UNITS THAT'S MENTIONED IN THIS SLIDE HERE IN THE RIGHT HAND, YES.
SO THESE ARE THE PROPOSED TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS YOU ARE ADDING, CORRECT? CORRECT.
AND HOW MANY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WILL BE GONE THAT WE'RE DEMOLISHING? YES.
PARKING WOULD BE PROVIDED RIGHT UNDER THOSE BUILDINGS, CORRECT? YES.
SORT OF THE, UH, TWO STORY DECK PARKING WITH THE BUILDING UP ABOVE.
AND WE WILL HAVE RETAIL ON THE STREET FRONT, SO DON'T NOTABLY WALKING DOWN THE STREET SEEING, STARING AT PARKING.
THE CASE IN FRONT OF ME SAID IT HAS CONTINUED FROM NOVEMBER 16TH.
WHAT HAPPENS NOVEMBER 16TH? YEAH, IF YOU'VE NOTICED ON YOUR AGENDAS.
WE SUBMITTED THIS CASE IN THE SUMMER, AND I GUESS WE WERE ORIGINALLY ON THE AGENDAS PROBABLY SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER.
STAFF CAME, CAME BACK AND RECOMMENDED DENIAL.
I WANTED A CHANCE TO WORK WITH STAFF TO SEE IF I UNDERSTOOD CORRECTLY WHY THEY WERE RECOMMENDING DENIAL.
THEN WE CAME BACK AND THEN WHEN I GOT BACK ON THE AGENDA, STAFF WASN'T GONNA CHANGE THEIR POSITION.
WE CAME BACK IN NOVEMBER AND I WAS STILL WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
I I DIDN'T WANT TO COME TO YOU WITH NEIGHBORHOOD OPPOSITION, SO I ASKED FOR A ONE MONTH CONTINUANCE TO TODAY SO THAT I COULD COME BACK WITH YOU AND, AND FORTUNATELY I HAD NEIGHBORHOOD SUPPORT.
UM, UH, YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING THAT WAS REALLY INTERESTING TO ME AND THAT IS THAT, UM, INCREASING THE DENSITY OF THE NUMBER OF HOUSING UNITS PROVIDED WILL ALLOW YOU TO HAVE A MORE AFFORDABLE, I HESITATE TO USE THE WORD, BUT A MORE AFFORDABLE PRICE POINT FOR EACH UNIT.
CAN YOU DESCRIBE A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT? WHEN WE SAY MIX, WE'RE, UM, WE'RE NOT RULING OUT DOING ANY KIND OF CONDOS IN ONE OF THE BUILDINGS, BUT THE GOAL IS PRIMARILY APARTMENTS, BUT THE MIX IS GONNA BE BOTH SMALLER EFFICIENCY UNITS, ONE BEDROOMS AND TWO BEDROOMS. THE MARKET REALLY DOESN'T SUPPORT THREE BEDROOM, AND WE'RE NOT COMING, COMING IN, YOU KNOW, NEXT SUMMER AND JUST BLAZING EVERYTHING AND, AND FULL BORE CONSTRUCTION ON EACH BUILDING.
THE GOAL IS PROBABLY GONNA START WITH BUILDING A, IF THAT FILLS UP, THEN WE'LL START WITH B, C KIND OF, KIND OF MOVE FORWARD.
WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO SOME GROCERS ABOUT LO LOCATING AND SITE D.
THAT'S THE SITE THEY LIKE THE BEST.
WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO PUSH FOR THAT.
BUT THOSE ARE KIND OF THE HOUSING TYPES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS A, THE ONE THAT, UM, OH, YES, I'M SORRY.
MARY'S, GRAYSON AND JOSEPHINE.
UM, THAT'S THE ONE THAT WILL HAVE THE SORT OF THE, THE BROWNSTONE LOOK FROM THE STREET.
THIS IS THE PROPERTY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR POTENTIAL GROCERS, YOU KNOW, HERE ON POLK STREET, WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, CAFES, RESTAURANTS, MAYBE SOME SMALL STORES, DRY CLEANERS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
IT'S KINDA A CHICKEN AND THE EGG.
THEY WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE OUR ZONING.
COMMISSIONER MILAM, NO QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER PECK, I DON'T HAVE ANY
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QUESTIONS, UH, MR. CHRISTENSEN, BUT, UH, I APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION TODAY AND, UM, I'LL BE IN FAVOR OF YOUR, YOUR REQUEST.UM, MAYBE I MISSED THIS IN OUR, UM, SESSION EARLIER, BUT WHAT WAS THE ZONING OUTCOME? IT, I GUESS ON, ON THE, UH, THE PRESENTATION FROM STAFF, IT SAYS THAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE HEARD LAST WEEK AT ZONING.
DO YOU WANT ME, I I'LL ANSWER.
WE, WE WE'RE GOING TO ZONING NEXT WEEK, SO, OKAY.
SO IT WAS CONTINUED AT THE LAST ZONING MEETING, UH, TO WAIT FOR SEE, TO SEE WHAT PLANNING COMMISSION DID.
COMMISSIONER ORIN, I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER GARCIA.
OKAY, SO, UH, I HAVE QUESTIONS MOSTLY REGARDING TRAFFIC.
IF YOUR GOAL IS TO HIT A THOUSAND UNITS, UH, I MEAN, CAN THESE STREETS EVEN HANDLE THAT INCREASE OF TRAFFIC? YES, IT'S INTERESTING.
UH, THE, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOODS ASKED THE EXACT SAME QUESTION.
TOM CARTER WITH PAP DAWSON ENGINEERS AS THE ENGINEER ON THE PROJECT, AND HE ASKED HIM THAT QUESTION, CAN YOU GO BACK TO MY POWERPOINT? HE'S LIKE, OH, THIS PROPERTY HAS GREAT ACCESS.
YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC ENGINEER KIND OF GETS EXCITED ABOUT THOSE THINGS.
UM, LEMME FIND THE RIGHT SLIDE THERE.
SO WHAT HE, WHAT TOM WAS SAYING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE GOOD ACCESS TO 2 81, STRAIGHT DOWN JOSEPHINE.
WE HAVE GOOD ACCESS TO I 35, STRAIGHT DOWN ST.
MARY'S, AND AGAIN TO 2 81 NORTH ON ST.
MARY'S STREET IS COMPLETELY NON-FUNCTIONAL TODAY, BUT THAT CONSTRUCTION WILL BE FINISHED WHEN THAT'S FINISHED.
IT WILL BE AN EXCELLENT ACCESS POINT FOR THIS.
AND, AND ALSO WHAT TOM WAS SAYING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS ISN'T THE OLD DAYS WHERE EVERYBODY WENT TO, HAS TO BE A WORK AT EIGHT O'CLOCK AND EVERYBODY COMES HOME AT FIVE O'CLOCK.
YOU KNOW, A LOT OF, ESPECIALLY IN THE APARTMENT DWELLERS, A LOT OF THEM ARE REMOTE WORKERS.
A LOT OF THEM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE EFFICIENCY APARTMENTS, WE'RE KIND OF ANTICIPATING MAYBE SOME, SOME PEOPLE THAT WORK IN THE SERVICE INDUSTRY AT THE PEARL, AT THE RESTAURANTS, THEIR HOURS ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE.
UH, WE THINK THE STREETS CAN HANDLE THE TRAFFIC.
AND AND WHAT ABOUT PARKING? YOUR, YOUR, UH, PLANTED CALLED FOR 1,075 PARKING SPACES? YOU HAVING A GARAGE ON THE LOWER LEVELS? YES.
SO WE, UM, WE'RE MAKING SURE WE HAVE AT LEAST ONE SPACE PER DWELLING UNITS.
YOU KNOW, THE, THE I D Z DOES NOT REQUIRE US TO HAVE TO DO THAT.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE SHARED PARKING WITH THE RETAIL, SO A RESIDENTIAL DWELLING WILL NOT HAVE AN ASSIGNED PARKING SPACE.
SO THEY, YOU KNOW, IF PEOPLE ARE AT WORK DURING THE DAY, PEOPLE THAT MIGHT BE AT ONE OF THE STORES OR AT THE, THE RESTAURANTS CAN PARK THERE DURING THE DAY.
WE THINK WE HAVE AMPLE PARKING.
UM, STAFF, IF YOU CAN RECALL, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS MIDTOWN REGIONAL PLAN, UH, HOW INVOLVED WERE EITHER THE TOBIN HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR THE OTHER TOBIN HILL ASSOCIATION? I, I CAN'T QUITE KEEP 'EM STRAIGHT, UM, IN THE CREATION OF THIS PLAN, UH, THEY WOULD'VE BEEN DIRECTLY INVOLVED.
UH, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT FACILITATED THAT PROCESS AND THEY WERE ALSO, UH, THE ONES WHO EVALUATED THIS REQUEST AS WELL.
AND TOGETHER WE'VE MOVED FORWARD WITH THE RECOMMENDATION.
AND WHAT IS THE DATE OF THIS PLAN AS CURRENTLY ISSUED? IT'S WHEN WAS ADOPTED IN JUNE, 2019? UM, IN THE INTERVENING THREE YEARS SINCE THIS PLAN WAS CREATED, HAVE THERE BEEN ANY PROPOSALS THAT DEAL WITH GROCERY STORES, UH, TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE? NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE.
AND MR. CHRISTENSEN, JUST TO HIT THIS AGAIN, UM, WITHOUT OBVIOUSLY OBLIGATING YOU IN SOME MANNER, A GROCERY STORE IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS A POSSIBILITY WITH THIS PLAN, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR THE I D Z WITH USES ALLOWED IN C TWO AND BAR TAVERN.
UM, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I, THAT JUMPED OUT AT ME WITH RESPECT TO THIS MIDTOWN REGIONAL PLAN IS THERE WAS A DESIRE IN THE PLAN FOR A GROCERY STORE MORE CENTRALLY LOCATED CORRECT STAFF.
I A GROCERY STORE PER SE, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I KNOW THAT C TWO USES ARE SUPPORTED IN THE PLAN.
HAVING REVIEWED SOME OF THE MIDTOWN REGIONAL, I'LL SAY THAT GROCERY STORES WERE ONE THING THAT THEY LOOK AT.
AND AS SOMEONE WHO LIVES IN SORT OF THE SOUTHERN VERSION OF THIS AREA, UM, YOU KNOW, A GROCERY STORE IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS SORELY LACKED.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, IF THAT REQUIRES A LITTLE MORE DENSITY TO MAKE THAT A POSSIBILITY, UM, I THINK I WOULD SUPPORT THAT.
NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, MADAM CHAIR? OKAY.
COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? NO QUESTION.
UM, I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.
UM, SO OVERALL, I'M, UM, I LIKE THE, I LIKE THE PROJECT, I LIKE THE IDEA.
I AM CONCERNED TO, UM, I BELIEVE IT WAS COMMISSIONER ORION'S QUESTIONS ABOUT TRAFFIC.
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I HAVE HEARD NO MENTION OF THE SCHOOL DOWN THE STREET AND WITH, YOU KNOW, SCHOOL TRAFFIC AND RESIDENTIAL TRAFFIC AND PEOPLE COMING, IF THERE IS GOING TO BE A, UH, GROCERY STORE THAT'S ONLY GONNA BRING MORE TRAFFIC IN FROM THE SURROUNDING AREAS, BECAUSE I WANNA SAY THE NEXT CLOSEST H E B MIGHT BE THE ONE NEAR ALMOST PARK, CORRECT.UM, SO YOU KNOW, THE, THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTS THAT IS CONCERNING TO ME.
I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE, UM, THE ISSUE THAT YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, FACING WITH, UH, PROFITABILITY AND MARKETABILITY.
UM, CAN YOU, CAN YOU TALK AGAIN ABOUT THE D BUILDING? SURE.
SO THAT FROM YOUR, I THINK IT WAS YOUR PREVIOUS SLOT.
IT SAYS THAT THERE'S THAT TWO STORY 30 FOOT MAX, SO THAT'S, THAT'S JUST IN THE AREA THAT ABUTS THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
BE TWO STORIES AND THEN THERE'S SOME KIND OF A SETBACK AND THERE WOULD BE HIGHER CORRECT.
AND HOW HIGH IS THAT? UM, WELL, HOW MANY STORIES WOULD THAT REST OF THAT BUILDING BE? UM, WELL, LEMME START AT THE BEGINNING.
THERE'S QUITE A FEW QUESTIONS.
SO THE GROCERY STORE IS NOT GONNA BE A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT.
WHAT WE'VE DESIGNATED FOR SITE D IS 22,000 SQUARE FOOT OF COMMERCIALS.
SO IT'LL BE SOMETHING MORE AKIN OR AKIN TO THE H E B OR A STORE LIKE THE H E B THAT'S THERE ON, UH, FLORES AND MM-HMM.
IT'S NOT GONNA BE A LARGE GROCERY STORE.
AND GROCERY STORE TRAFFIC IS ALL THROUGHOUT THE DAY.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT, UH, CENTRALIZED IN ONE TIME.
THE PROTECTION FOR THE SCHOOL IS, ANYBODY THAT SELLS ALCOHOL IN THIS SITE COULD, IS GONNA BE RESTRICTED TO THE 300 FOOT NO ALCOHOL SALES WITHIN THE PROPERTY LINE FROM THE BUSINESS TO THE SCHOOL.
SO EVERY RESTAURANT BAR GROCER THAT LOCATES ON SITE D SEE THIS IS THE PROPERTY LINE FOR HAWTHORNE ELEMENTARY.
THE 300 FEET INCLUDES ALL THREE OF THESE SITES.
SO EVERYONE'S GONNA HAVE TO COME AND ASK FOR AN ALCOHOL VARIANCE.
AND, UH, I'M, I'M NOT SURE YOU'RE AWARE OF THE ALCOHOL VARIANCE PROCESS.
THE COUNCIL PEOPLE REQUIRE THAT YOU GET, UH, I S D SUPPORT.
SO YOU HAVE TO REACH OUT IN THIS CASE TO S A I S D I I DO A LOT OF THESE CASES.
THEY WANT TO SEE THE MENUS, THEY WANNA SEE THE RESTAURANT OPERATOR.
AND, AND, AND S A S D IS VERY GOOD ABOUT THIS.
THEY'RE FINE WITH RESTAURANTS, YOU KNOW, WITHIN 300 FEET.
THEY DON'T WANT ANY STANDALONE BARS.
THEY DON'T WANT ANY CONVENIENCE PACKERS PACKAGE STORES WHERE, YOU KNOW, LIKE A STOP AND GO TYPE OF BUSINESS.
SO ALL THOSE KIND OF USES WILL HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE THE SCHOOL, UM, AND, UH, GET THEIR PERMISSION THROUGH THE ALCOHOL VARIANCE PROCESS.
NOW, IN THE HEIGHT, THE WORKING, AGAIN, WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE'VE LIMITED TO 50 FEET.
THAT LIMITS IT TO PROBABLY LESS THAN FIVE STORIES.
UM, SO, AND THAT KIND OF DEPENDS ON IF WE CAN DO SOME SUB-GRADE PARKING, THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT IT LIMITS THE HEIGHT AND THAT'S WHY WE DID THAT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD SO THAT THEY WOULD, UM, BE SUPPORTIVE OF SOMETHING THAT WASN'T TOO TALL AND TOWERING OVER ANY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
AND, AND JUST FOR MY OWN REFERENCE, SO HAWTHORNE ELEMENTARY I THINK IS A THREE OR FOUR STORY STORY SCHOOL.
AND SO THAT'S, I GUESS LESS THAN THE 50 FEET? YES, LESS THAN 50 FEET.
BUT WE WON'T BE TOWERING OVER IT, BUT WE'LL BE A LITTLE BIT TALLER.
UM, WELL THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION.
I JUST HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.
ON, ON THE 50 FOOT LIMITATION THAT YOU'RE DOING, UH, IS FOR STAFF, IS THAT, THAT'S NOTE EIGHT ON THE ZONING GENERAL TABLE, I THINK IS WHERE THAT KICKS IN.
BUT DOES THAT APPLY TO AN I D Z THREE OR DOES IT HAVE TO BE AN MF ZONE? IT WOULD APPLY, YES, IT DOES.
IT, IT WOULD APPLY IF IT'S, UH, IF IT WERE MF OR RMM.
UH, AND IT DOES HAVE PROVISIONS AS WELL IN THE I D Z.
UM, FOR THE SITE PLAN REQUIREMENTS.
SO, UM, BUT HE IS HE, IS IT MANDATORY? UM, YES.
IF IT, IF IT, IT WOULD BE MANDATORY.
HE IS CAPPING IT AT 50 UH, FEET.
I JUST, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT HE WAS DOING IT 'CAUSE HE HAD TO AND NOT BECAUSE HE WANTED TO.
IT'S NICE TO KNOW WHEN THAT KICKS IN FOR, IT'S THERE FOR A REASON SO.
AND WELL IN GENERAL, I D Z THREE WOULD ALLOW AN UNLIMITED, UM, HEIGHT AND SO THEY ARE CAPPING IT, THEIR HEIGHT FOR THIS PROJECT, BUT, BUT COUNCIL AND ZONING COMMISSION COULD TAKE IT AWAY IF THEY WANTED TO.
WE'RE GOING A LITTLE BIT FURTHER THAN WHAT THE U D C REQUIRES PER THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S REQUEST.
UH, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION MOVE TO APPROVE THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.
SO I HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER SIEGEL, A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER MILAM.
COMMISSIONER CREO HAYNES? YES.
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NUMBER 20.I UNDERSTAND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE.
IS THERE ANYTHING THE STAFF WANTS TO YES, UH, WE CAN READ THAT ONE INTO THE RECORD FOR YOU.
DOES ANY, I THINK THE COMMISSIONERS MIGHT HAVE COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, BUT DO YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND YES, WE'LL READ IT INTO THE RECORD AND THEN JUST AS SOME SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION, THE APPLICANT DID REACH OUT AND, UH, THEY APOLOGIZED.
THEY THOUGHT THE MEETING TIME WAS 2:00 PM TODAY.
SO, UM, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND HAVE KELLY READ THAT INTO THE RECORD FOR YOU.
ITEM NUMBER 20 IS APPROVAL FOR RESOLUTION AMENDING THE STINSON AIRPORT VICINITY LAND USE PLAN FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL LOCATED AT 9 4 4 6 ESPA ROAD.
NOTICES WERE SENT ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED.
AND VIA CORONADO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED.
AND THEY ARE REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE TO THE, UM, JANUARY 11TH PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
DO I HAVE ANY, UM, COMMISSIONER THOMAS OR QUESTIONS? IF NOT, CAN I GET A MOTION? I DO, MADAM.
SO, WELL, INITIALLY THIS CAME TO US IN JULY.
WAS THAT THE FIRST TIME? NO, OCTO NO, IT'S BEFORE.
ANYWAY, SINCE THIS FIRST CAME THE COMMISSION, THE APPLICANT HAS NEVER APPEARED BEFORE US, HAS NEVER MADE THEIR CASE.
WE HAVE HEARD, UH, AT LEAST ONE CITIZEN WHO WAS OPPOSED TO IT.
UH, AND WE'VE JUST CONTINUED THIS ON AND I DON'T SEE WHY WE NEED TO KEEP CONTINUING IT IF THE APPLICANT CANNOT BE.
UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S PREMATURE FOR THEM.
SO I WOULD, UH, PUT FORWARD A MOTION THAT WE DENY.
I'LL SECOND QUESTION FOR STAFF.
UM, PROCEDURALLY, IF WE DENY TODAY, COULD THEY COME BACK AT A LATER DATE WITH THE SAME EXACT PLAN AMENDMENT? UH, THEY WOULD HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL.
SO THEY COULD NOT EVER COME, COME BACK A YEAR FROM NOW UNLESS THEY POSTPONED IT? OH, NO, THEY COULD COME BACK.
UNLESS THEY POSTPONED IT AND, AND RESTARTED THEIR PROCESS.
DID IT WELL, THERE'S ANOTHER QUESTION.
UM, YOU KNOW, ALTHOUGH I AM SORT OF PHILOSOPHICALLY IN AGREEMENT WITH THE MOTION, I THINK BECAUSE WE'VE HAD THIS CHANGE, UH, IN TIME FOR THESE NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER MEETINGS, I THINK I WILL VOTE AGAINST THE MOTION.
UM, ON THE OTHER HAND, HOWEVER, UM, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF THIS BODY WERE TO GO FORWARD WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL, IF ZONING COMMISSION, AND I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT ZONING COMMISSION WILL DO, WERE TO GO WITH AN APPROVAL, SAY THAT VERY WELL COULD INFLUENCE CITY COUNCIL TO DO SOMETHING BESIDES A RECOMMENDATION.
UM, SO FOR ME, IT'S VERY CLOSE CASE, BUT BECAUSE OF THE CHANGE IN TIME, I'M GONNA VOTE AGAINST THE MOTION.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? YEAH, THE CHANGE OF TIME HAVE BEEN POSTED UPFRONT EARLIER A MONTH, MORE THAN A MONTH AGO.
SO I GUESS I DON'T SEE IT AS AN EXCUSE.
I'M KIND OF, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THE, THE MEETING TIMES, BUT IT'S BEEN A WHILE.
I MEAN, IT KEEPS COMING BACK AND GETTING PULLED.
UM, THE MEETING TIMES WERE POSTED AND HONESTLY, I DON'T SEE MY OPINION OF, I MEAN, I AGREE WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL, SO I DON'T SEE MY OPINION CHANGING BETWEEN NOW AND JANUARY, WHATEVER IT IS, 11TH.
SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO GO.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? I'LL JUST VOICE MY OPINION FOR THE RECORD ALSO.
UM, I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE.
I THINK THAT THE PLANNING PROCESS AND, UH, ZONING AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE NOT DOING, YOU'RE NOT DOING THIS ON A DAILY BASIS, IT CAN BE RATHER CUMBERSOME AND COULD BE DIFFICULT FOR SOMEBODY WHO DOESN'T KNOW THE PROCESS.
AND I THINK WE COULD SHOW A LITTLE GRACE.
SO I'LL BE VOTING AGAINST THE MOTION FOR DENIAL.
COULD, COULD YOU TELL US WHEN THE VERY FIRST, UM, REQUEST WAS BROUGHT? OCTOBER 26TH.
OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
CAN WE GET A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.
IT'S A MOTION FOR DENIAL AS A REMINDER.
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CREO HAYNES? NO.ELIZABETH STEWART PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER 22 IS A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO AMEND THAT HIGHWAY 1 51 LOOP 1604 REGIONAL CENTER PLAN FROM URBAN MIXED USE TO REGIONAL MIXED USE LOCATED AT 56 79 AND 57 45 EAST EASTERLING DRIVE.
ONE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION WITHIN 200 FEET, TWO RECEIVED IN FAVOR OUTSIDE 200 FEET AND THERE IS NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
THE APPLICANT SEEKS A PLAN AMENDMENT TO REGIONAL MIXED USE TO REZONE TO C TO REZONE TO C THREE, A GENERAL COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT.
THE PROPOSED LAND AMENDMENT IS IN ORDER TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO C THREE A.
THIS IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE PLAN'S OBJECTIVE TO ENCOURAGE THE CREATION OF MIXED USE CENTERS ALONG HIGHWAY 1 51 WITH RETAIL AND ENTERTAINMENT USES ORIENTED TO THE PLAN AREA AND WORKFORCE RESIDENCE.
THE PLAN ALSO SPECIFIES LOCATING REGIONAL MIXED USE AT LARGER INTERSECTIONS ON PROPERTIES 25 ACRES OR MORE.
THE FUTURE LAND USE CLASSIFICATION FOR THE PROPERTY IS URBAN MIXED USE, WHICH IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING USES ALONG THE COLLIBRA HUBNER GRISSOM CORRIDOR.
THE PROPOSED REGIONAL MIXED USE IS NOT APPROPRIATE ON THIS SECTION OF THE COLLIBRA CORRIDOR FRONTING ONTO A LOCAL STREET.
THE PROPOSED PLAN AMENDMENT TO REGIONAL MIXED USE DOES NOT PROVIDE A COMPATIBLE TRANSITION BETWEEN THE R SIX BASED ZONING DISTRICT AND LOWDEN CITY RESIDENTIAL LAND USE TO THE WEST AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL LAND USE TO THE NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
THE APPLICANT COULD POTENTIALLY UTILIZE THE URBAN MIXED USE LAND USE WITH EITHER CT C TWO COMMERCIAL OR C TWO CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR ONE SPECIFIED USE.
GENERALLY ALLOWED IN THE C THREE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
BOBBY RERA, 9 0 0 6 MIN JULIP, US NAVY VETERAN, VIETNAM ERROR SAFETY OFFICER FOR A E LOPEZ CONSTRUCTION.
I READ, UH, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.
IT'S FOR DENIAL, BUT I WENT OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND WE FOUND A FEW THINGS THAT I FEEL IT SHOULD BE MENTIONED.
THIS IS BACK TWO YEARS AGO, GOING BACK ALMOST TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO.
BUT WHEN COVID HIT, IT CAME BEFORE YOU GUYS, IT WAS FOR FOR APPROVAL.
MR. RA, DO YOU MIND, UH, MOVING THE MICROPHONE SO WE CAN HEAR YOU BETTER PLEASE? SURE.
IT WAS FOR APPROVAL TWO YEAR, TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO THROUGH THIS DEPARTMENT, THIS PARTICULAR STAFF COMMISSIONERS, AND NOW WE'RE BACK ON THE BOARD AGAIN.
SO BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS C THREE NA, THESE TWO LOTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, IT BUTTS OFF COLLIBRA.
ACCORDING TO THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION THAT WAS PASSED LAST APRIL OF 22, ALL IT CONSISTS OF IS CORRIDOR HIGHWAY 1 51 AND 1604.
WE ARE EIGHT MILES FROM THAT PARTICULAR AREA.
OUR MAIN OBJECTIVE CORRIDOR ROAD IS COLLABO ROAD, NOT 1 51.
SO THEREFORE WE'RE MOVING TO PROCEED WITH C THREE.
MR. AND MRS. LOPEZ HAVE OWNED THE PROPERTY, THESE TWO PARTICULAR AREAS OF 56 79 AND 57 45 ON THE CORNER SINCE 1990.
AND NOW I DON'T KNOW IF THEIR INTENTIONS ARE TO RETIRE OR WHAT, BUT WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, THEY WANT TO JUST BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE BUILDINGS AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS.
I'VE WALKED THE BUILDINGS MYSELF AND OUT OF THE 77 COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS, C THREE IN THE AREA, A LOT OF 'EM SAID YES, THEY'RE ALL FOR IT.
THESE PARTICULAR BUILDINGS ARE R SIX AND BASICALLY THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO GET COMPATIBLE, BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE AREA AND MOVE AHEAD.
HOWEVER, CITY STAFF IS SAYING IT IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH A PLAN.
OBJECTED TO ENCOURAGEMENT FOR THE CREATION OF MIXED USE ALONG HIGHWAY 1 51.
WE ARE LOCATED OFF COBRA, NOT HIGHWAY 1 51.
EVERYONE WHO COMES THROUGH THAT PARTICULAR AREA COMES OFF COLLIBRA.
WHERE AGAIN, LET ME REITERATE, WE'RE EIGHT MILES AWAY.
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AND MRS. LOPEZ HAVE CREATED A BUSINESS IN THE AREA FOR OVER 28 YEARS.THEY RECOMMENDATION IS COMPATIBLE TRANSITION BETWEEN R SIX TWO RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT AND THE AREA POST-IT REPOST IT.
DO YOU MIND PUTTING THAT? OKAY.
NOW, IF YOU LOOK BEHIND THEIR PROPERTY, THERE'S NO WAY THIS CAN BE AN URBAN MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
THE SIMPLE REASON IS BECAUSE THERE'S A CREEK GOING BEHIND THERE WITH THAT CREEK.
THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN BUILD HOMES BACK THERE.
THAT'S CALLED A DENSE FORCE AREA BETWEEN MR. AND MRS. LOPEZ PROPERTY AND THE NEAREST RESIDENCE.
THAT'S NATURAL BARRIERS ACCORDINGLY.
SO THEREFORE NOTHING CAN BE BUILT BACK THERE.
THE NEAREST HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION WOULD BE THE GREAT NORTHWEST, WHICH I'M FULLY AWARE OF WHO THEY ARE, BELIEVE ME, BEEN THERE, DONE THAT.
YOU HAVE MOUNTAIN VIEW WAY ON THE OTHER SIDE, THREE FOOTBALL FILLS AWAY.
I'VE SPOKEN WITH BOTH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.
OF COURSE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE ONE OR TWO THAT ARE GONNA SAY, NO, I DON'T WANT THIS.
BUT THEN AGAIN, IT'S NOT FAIR TO MR. AND MRS. LOPEZ OWNING THAT PROPERTY FOR SO MANY YEARS AND NOT BEING ABLE TO DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH IT.
NOW, BASICALLY WHAT THEY WANNA DO IS ENHANCE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT PARTICULAR BUILDING IN THE CORNER, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE END OVER THERE.
THEY WANT TO KNOCK IT DOWN AND BUILD SUITES AND LEASE THEM OUT.
I WOULD DO THE SAME THING, BUT, UH, I, I JUST CAN'T SEE WHERE THEY DID RECOMMEND C TWO, BUT THEY WEREN'T COMPATIBLE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AREA.
LIKE I SAID, I WALKED THE NEIGHBORHOOD MYSELF AND BETWEEN ROGERS ROAD AND LES HARRISON A LITTLE OVER, THERE'S A LITTLE OVER 68 TO 78 BUSINESSES, LOCAL SMALL BUSINESSES THAT ARE C THREE.
AND BEING THAT THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS WITHIN 200 FEET, THEY MAILED OUT 17 NOTICES.
I'M STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO THEY MAILED THEM OUT TO.
I, I, I'VE BEEN TALKING TO THE PEOPLE IN THE AREA.
I SAID, HAVE YOU RECEIVED NOTICES? NO.
HAVE YOU RECEIVED NOTICES? NO.
I WENT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD BEHIND THE EXXON STATION AND THEY SAID THEY HAVEN'T RECEIVED NOTICES.
BUT THEN AGAIN, I'M NOT GONNA ARGUE WITH 'EM IF THEY SAY THEY MAILED 'EM OUT, THEY MAILED 'EM OUT.
BUT I GUESS THE POINT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IS BEING THAT IT IS OUR SIX, IT'S BEEN OUR SIX FOR MANY YEARS, ALL THEY WANT TO DO IS BE COMPATIBLE WITH A NEIGHBORHOOD ON C THREE.
IT'S A SHAME WHAT THEY'RE DOING RIGHT NOW.
THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE RUNNING WATER GOING THROUGH THERE.
THEY HAVE TO GO TO SASS, GET A METER, GO TO THE NEAREST HYDRANT FOR WATER.
I'VE TALKED TO THE BUSINESSES ON EASTERN AND THEY GO, YOU KNOW WHAT, MR. HERRERA, WE HAVE TO USE THAT PORTABLE TO GO TO THE RESTROOM ON SITE.
I GO, OH MY GOD, YOU DO THAT HERE.
YOU HAVE FIRE PROTECTION, YOU HAVE S A P D, YOU HAVE SAN ANTONIO FIRE DEPARTMENT, YOU HAVE E M S GOING UP THERE ALL THE TIME.
THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE ROAD.
MYSELF, IF I WAS BACK ON COUNCIL BACK THEN, IF I WOULD'VE KNOWN ALL THIS, WE WOULD'VE PUT IT IN.
BUT THESE PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING.
AND I'M TELLING YOU, I, YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T WANT TO LIVE OFF A PORTABLE, GO TO THE RESTAURANT MOUNTAIN, A PORTABLE, AND COME BACK INSIDE.
THESE PEOPLE NEED RUNNING WATER IN THE AREA.
THEY NEED THE NECESSITIES THAT THE CITY'S SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE.
AND ALL WE'RE ASKING IS FOR THESE PEOPLE, MR. AND MRS. LOPEZ THAT ARE BACK HERE, THAT HAVE HAD THE BUSINESS FOR OVER 30 YEARS, 30 YEARS PLUS, JUST TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT, IF THERE'S 68 BUSINESSES ALL UP AND DOWN THE CORRIDOR IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS OF C THREE AND THEY WANT TO GIVE 'EM C TWO, I CAN'T SEE THE MERIT IN IT.
BUT THEN AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, IN CLOSING, I'LL SAY THIS AGAIN.
THE REASON WHY IT'S NOT COMPATIBLE FOR R SIX MULTI HOUSE URBAN DEVELOPMENT IS BECAUSE OF THE CREEK THAT'S BEHIND THERE.
THERE'S A CREEK GOING BACK OVER HERE IN THE BACK.
IT GOES ALL THE WAY TO CBRA ROAD PLUS THE, A FOREST AREA.
SO THAT IN ITSELF, THAT'S A NO-NO.
THERE'S NO WAY THAT ANYBODY CAN BUILD ANYTHING THERE.
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THANK YOU, MR. RIVERA.UM, WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
I'LL CALL FIRST MR. ART LOPEZ.
I THINK MS. LOPEZ WILL SPEAK MR. LOPEZ.
SO MR. LOPEZ IS GONNA YIELD HIS TIME.
GOOD MORNING, MS. LOPEZ, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
UH, MY NAME'S ELIZABETH LOPEZ.
MY ADDRESS IS 7 7 0 9 LAKESIDE SAN ANTONIO, UH, 7 8 2 4 OH.
AND, UH, IT'S MR. A ARRA MENTIONED EARLIER.
UM, MY HUSBAND AND I, ARTURO LOPEZ AND I HAVE HAD OUR BUSINESS.
WE'VE HAD, UM, WE HAVE SEVERAL SMALL BUSINESSES SINCE THE MID EIGHTIES OR EARLY EIGHTIES.
UH, WE'VE BEEN IN THE CONSTRUCTION AND CONCRETE BUSINESS, UH, SINCE THEN.
AND ALL WHAT WE ARE ASKING IS, UM, WELL FIRST OF ALL, UH, OUR PLAN FOR THESE PROPERTIES ARE CURRENTLY, AS YOU ALL KNOW, ARE ZONED R SIX, WHICH IS RESIDENTIAL.
I'M GOING TO SAY, UH, PROBABLY WITHIN 200 FEET OR MORE FROM, UH, EAST, THESE EASTERLING PROPERTIES.
IN FACT, MOST OF THESE PROPERTIES ON EASTERLING AND IN THE VICINITY AREA ARE ZONED C THREE.
UM, SO WE ARE ASKING THE, UM, THE COMMISSIONERS TO PLEASE CONSIDER, UH, OUR REQUEST TO, UH, REZONE THESE AS C THREE.
AND, UH, OUR PLAN HERE FOR THESE PROPERTIES IS TO BUILD A RETAIL AND, UH, AND AUTOPLEX COMMUNITY TO ENHANCE THE AREA, TO ENHANCE THE COMMUNITY, AND OF COURSE, TO, UH, ADD JOBS TO THE COMMUNITIES.
WE'VE BEEN IN THIS AREA AS MR. RERA MENTIONED, SINCE EARLY TO MID EIGHTIES.
AND WE DID COME, UH, BEFORE THE, UH, COMMISSIONER ZONING.
UH, I'M, IT'S PROBABLY IN APRIL, 2000, AND IT WAS APPROVED.
HOWEVER, AFTER, UH, UM, AFTER COVID, EVERYTHING WAS PLACED ON HOLD AND WE HAVEN'T, UH, MADE OURSELVES BACK TO THE COMMISSIONERS UNTIL NOW.
AND SO, PLEASE, UH, WE'VE, AS I MENTIONED, WE'VE RUN OUR BUSINESSES, TWO SMALL BUSINESSES SINCE THE MID EIGHTIES OR EARLY EIGHTIES.
UH, SOME OF THE EMPLOYEES HAVE BEEN WITH US FOR OVER 20 YEARS.
UH, WE WANNA ENHANCE COMMUNITY, BUT, UH, WE, AT THIS TIME, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH THESE PROPERTIES, UH, AS EDGES OWN CURRENTLY.
UH, IF YOU DOWN THE STREET ON EASTERLY, THEY ARE NO RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
UH, UH, IT'S, IT'S A BUSINESS INDUSTRY IN THE AREA.
UH, SO AGAIN, WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR THE CONSIDERATION TO REZONE THESE AREAS, UH, COMPARABLE TO WHAT IS CURRENTLY NOW, UH, IN THE VICINITY.
UH, AND, UM, HOPEFULLY, UH, IF IT GETS APPROVED, WE'RE LOOKING AT MAYBE 10 OR 20 UNITS, UH, IN THE EASTERLING AREA, UH, WITH, UH, MAYBE PERHAPS 800 TO A THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT FOR EACH ONE OF THE, UH, UM, OF THE BUSINESSES.
SO ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
AND AGAIN, WE JUST WANNA CONTINUE TO BE DOING WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR ALMOST 40 YEARS, PROVIDING JOBS FOR THIS COMMUNITY AND THE, UH, SPECIFICALLY FOR THE AREA, UH, UH, IN THE NORTHWEST AREA.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
UM, I ALSO HAVE A BECKY PETTI SIGNED UP.
MS. PETTIS, PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
UM, MY NAME IS REBECCA FLOES AND I LIVE AT 1 0 2 3 OH MOUNT CROSBY, EXCUSE ME, FOR THE HORSE VOICE.
I LIVE IN THE MOUNTAIN VIEW ESTATE SUBDIVISION FOR OVER 40 YEARS, AND I AM PRESIDENT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
UM, I'M HERE TODAY REPRESENTING FIVE DIFFERENT HOAS OURSELVES, MOUNTAIN VIEW ACRES NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION, THE GREAT NORTHWEST COMMUNITY APPROVAL IMPROVEMENT ASSOCIATION, THE RESERVE AT COLLIBRA CREEK, WESTOVER VALLEY, H O A, AND HIDDEN MEADOWS, H O A.
WE ARE ALL ACTIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND HAVE HIGH, HIGH EXPECTATIONS
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FOR OUR GROWING NEIGHBORHOOD.LET ME START BY SAYING THAT WE ARE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS REQUEST PLANNED AMENDMENT.
WE DO NOT SUPPORT THE PROPOSED PLAN CHANGE FROM URBAN MIXED USE TO REGIONAL MIXED USE.
WE'RE ASKING YOU TO PLEASE CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. THIS REQUEST IS NEXT DOOR TO A CHURCH, UH, AND IS APPROXIMATELY A HUNDRED FEET FROM A 91 UNIT FAMILY APARTMENT COMPLEX.
AND IT IS VERY CLOSE TO THE IDEAL PUBLIC SCHOOL AT 1 0 1 3 8 CULEBRA, EXCUSE ME.
UH, CURRENTLY THE LOPEZ'S OWN RIVER CITY READY MILL.
CURRENTLY, THE LOPEZ'S OWNERS OF RIVER CITY READY MIX STILL HAVE CITATIONS PENDING WITH THE CITY, NEW VIOLATIONS FOR ILLEGALLY EXTENDING THEIR BUSINESS INTO ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND ILLEGAL DUMPING OF CHEMICALS.
THEY, THEY HAVE AN ONGOING, UH, COMPLAINTS AND VIOLATIONS WITH THE CITY.
AND IS OUR CONCERN THAT THIS ZONING CHANGE WOULD PROBABLY BE, WELL, I MEAN, ONCE YOU CHANGE THE ZONING CHANGE, IT'S GONNA BE OPEN FOR WHATEVER THAT ZONING CHANGE IS.
AND IT, TODAY, THEY COULD BE SAYING THEY'RE DOING OFFICES OR BUILDINGS, BUT IT'S COULD BE CHANGED ALSO TO USE OF THEIR BUSINESS BECAUSE THEY OWN PROPERTY.
IS ANY WAY YOU CAN PUT THIS UP? UH, NO.
UM, SO, UM, BECAUSE OF THESE REASONS, THE HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUES THAT ARE INVOLVED, WE ALSO KNOW THAT THE CITY HAS, UH, ALLOTTED FUNDS FOR EXTENDING THE CONNECTING WALKWAY TRAILS THAT ARE VERY POPULAR NOWADAYS IN THIS AR AREA.
AND OUR CONCERN ALSO WOULD BE WHAT THEY END UP BUILDING THERE, BECAUSE THEY'RE OPERATING THEIR BUSINESS ON A VERY SMALL LOT.
WE FEAR THAT THIS PROPERTY WILL EVENTUALLY BE USED FOR THEIR, UH, ON THEIR BEHALF RATHER THAN USING IT FOR ANYTHING ELSE.
THEY ALSO OWN ANOTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY ACROSS THE CREEK THAT'S, UM, ADJACENT TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, SO WE'RE JUST ASKING THAT HOW MUCH TIME DO I HAVE? 20 SECONDS, UH, THAT YOU PLEASE CONSIDER, UH, AND DENY THIS PROPOSED CHANGE.
UM, FOR CLARIFICATION, I JUST WANNA REMIND BOTH THE APPLICANT AND OUR, UM, CITIZEN THAT WAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
THIS BODY HAS NO AUTHORITY OVER ZONING THIS, UM, PLANNING, COMMISSION REVIEWS AND CONSIDERS CHANGES IN, UM, LAND USE.
SO THE ZONING COMMISSION IS A SEPARATE BODY CHAIRED BY, UM, COMMISSIONER BUSANTE FOR NOT MUCH LONGER APPARENTLY, BUT, UM, UH, WE, WE DO NOT REVIEW ANY ZONING, SO JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTOOD THAT CLARIFICATION.
UM, I'LL GO NOW TO, UH, COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS STARTING OVER ON, ON MY RIGHT.
COMMISSIONER ZUKI, WHAT IS THE CURRENT BUSINESS AS IF IT IS RIGHT NOW? BEEN JUST, I'VE SEEN SOME IMAGES FROM GOOGLE, BUT, UH, FROM ON THOSE PARTICULAR BUILDINGS THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ACROSS THE STREET.
WE'RE TALKING ACROSS THE STREET.
THOSE PARTICULAR TWO BUILDINGS THAT ARE, HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH A BUSINESS ACROSS THE STREET.
WE'RE JUST, JUST TRYING TO RESUME THESE TWO BUILDINGS.
WHAT'S ACROSS THE STREET THAT'S A DIFFERENT ENTITY.
HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO OVER HERE.
WE'RE NOT HERE TO DISCUSS WHAT'S OVER THERE.
WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS THESE TWO PROPERTIES.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE VACANT BUILDINGS.
THEY OWN A AND E LOPEZ CONSTRUCTION, THAT'S WHO I'M THE SAFETY OFFICER FOR.
SO JUST VACANT BUILDINGS AND THE BACK THERE, THERE, THERE ARE TWO VACANT BUILDINGS BACK TO BACK.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS REVITALIZE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, PUT 'EM FROM R SIX TO C THREE, KNOCK IT ALL DOWN AND MAKE SUITES.
THAT'S ALL THEY'RE TRYING TO DO TO BE COMPATIBLE.
WHAT'S WITH ACROSS THE STREET AND SIDE BY SIDE QUESTION TO THE STAFF, UH, WITH THE SECOND CITIZEN, UH, CONCERN ABOUT IF THE APPLICANT IS GRANTED A CHANGE OF LAND USE TODAY AND A ZONING MAYBE LATER, WOULD THEY BE ALLOWED TO USE THEIR BUSINESS TO BE IN THAT LOT? JUST TO ADDRESS HER CONCERN TO BE, UH, I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THE LAST PART OF YOUR QUESTION? WOULD THE APPLICANT ALLOW TO EXTEND THE READYMIX PLANT IN THE BACK TO BE USED IN THIS LOT OF OUR CONCERN TODAY? UH, A BATCHING QUESTION TO THIS.
UH, A BATCHING PLANT REQUIRES ADDITIONAL ZONING, UH, BUT C THREE IS MORE INTENSE THAN C TWO AND STAFF
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FEELS THAT IT, WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED IN A C TWO, IF NOT WITH A C TWO, WITH A C TWO CD UNDER THE CURRENT URBAN MIXED USE.I'M NOT HERE TO DISCUSS THE BATCH PLAN.
THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BATCH PLAN.
WE'RE TOTALLY ACROSS THE STREET.
THESE TWO BUILDINGS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BATCH PLAN.
THE BATCH PLAN IS SET IN THE BACK.
SO THE BATCH PLANT IS ACROSS THE STREET ON THE LOWER RIGHT HAND SIDE, IS THAT CORRECT? YES.
WE'RE OVER HERE IN THE CORNER TRYING TO ESTABLISH COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS ACROSS THE STREET.
UM, COMMISSIONER SIEGEL, UH, YOU MENTIONED, UH, UH, YOU'VE MENTIONED A FEW TIMES SUITES.
IS IT, IS IT THE CASE THAT THE, IT'LL BE COMMERCIAL SUITES, BUSINESS OFFICE SUITES, SUITES, THERE'D BE OFFICE BUSINESS SUITES? WELL, IT DEPENDS.
IT MAY BE A, A BAKERY, IT MAY BE AN INSURANCE OFFICE NEXT DOOR.
IT MAY BE, UH, A HAIR SALON AND HAIR SALON SALON, A NAIL SALON, WHATEVER, WHOEVER WANTS TO COME IN.
AND SO THE STAFF REPORT MENTIONS THAT THE, UM, HOME THE PROPERTY OWNER'S GOALS CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED WITH A C TWO CONDITIONAL USE, UM, ZONING DESIGNATION.
UM, IS THERE A REASON THAT THAT IS NOT, UM, PREFERABLE OR ACCEPTABLE TO THE PROPERTY OWNER? WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE OWNER? MAY I, YES, RESPOND TO THAT.
UH, THE, THE, THE REASON IS BECAUSE THERE'S OTHER, UH, BUSINESSES ACROSS IN, IN FACT, IN STERLING ROAD THAT ARE ZONE C THREE.
AND IF WE ARE, UM, FORTUNATE ENOUGH AND GET APPROVED FOR C TWO, IT ALSO LIMITS OUR, UH, COMPETITIVENESS AND OUR, UH, FOR LEASING.
UH, SO C THREE IS MORE IN, UH, IS MORE COMPARABLE TO WHAT IS EXISTING RIGHT NOW IN THE AREA.
UH, WE DON'T, WE, WE WOULDN'T WANT TO LIMIT OURSELVES TO A C TWO AND THEN NOT BE ABLE TO HAVE, UM, TOO LAZY PROPERTIES.
AND THAT'S NOT OUR, OUR, OUR MAIN CONCERN.
UH, MOST OF THOSE BUSINESSES THAT THEY'RE IN ON THE STREET AND THE VICINITY AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, ARE C THREE.
AND WE JUST WANT TO, UH, REQUEST OR ASKED FOR A COMPARABLE, UH, ZONING, UM, FOR THE REASON THAT WE DON'T WANNA END UP WITH MT.
AND, AND THAT'S OUR MAIN FEAR.
MOST OF THE BUSINESSES THERE FALL UNDER C THREE.
UM, MY LAST QUESTION IS FOR STAFF.
UM, WE'VE BEEN HEARING SOME INFORMATION ABOUT PROPERTY APPROVALS FROM BACK FROM 1920 OR PLAN AMENDMENT APPROVALS, ZONING CHANGE APPROVALS BACK FROM 2020.
AND I DON'T HAVE A CLEAR IDEA OF THE TIMELINE ON THAT.
UM, THOSE, THOSE APPROVALS, WHATEVER THEY ARE, WE'RE GIVEN BEFORE THIS PLAN.
UM, THIS MASTER PLAN WAS APPROVED.
SO I'M, I'M KIND OF CURIOUS ABOUT THE TIMELINE AND HOW ALL THAT COMES TOGETHER.
I, I BELIEVE WHAT THEY WERE REFERRING TO WAS THEY HAD PUT IN A PLAN AMENDMENT IN A ZONING CASE BACK IN 2019, HOWEVER, UM, THAT WAS WITHDRAWN AND IT WAS THROUGH A DIFFERENT REPRESENTATIVE AT THE TIME.
SO, UH, THERE WAS NO ACTION TAKEN ON THOSE.
IF THERE'S ANY FURTHER ZONING, UM, OR PLAN AMENDMENT, UM, WE WOULD HAVE TO AN, UH, LOOK AT THAT.
BUT, UH, NOT TO OUR KNOWLEDGE.
WHAT WAS THE TIME SPAN OF THE MASTER PLAN, UM, FROM DEVELOPMENT THROUGH APPROVAL? SURE.
UH, SO THIS PLAN, UH, IS NEW AND IT GOT APPROVED IN APRIL, APRIL 14TH, 2022.
AND HOW LONG WAS THAT WORKED ON AND WHAT KIND OF COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT WAS THERE? IN GENERAL? THEY WORK ON THOSE FOR A YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF.
UM, AND THE, THE COMMUNITY WOULD'VE BEEN DIRECTLY INVOLVED.
UH, I WOULD HAVE TO GET DETAILS FROM PLANNING DEPARTMENT ABOUT HOW MANY MEETINGS, BUT IT IS A NUMBER OF MEETINGS ANYWHERE FROM FOUR TO FIVE, IF NOT MORE.
OKAY, COMMISSIONER, UM, MILAM.
SO JUST ONE LAST QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT REGARDING THE, UH, UH, VIABILITY OF USING A C TWO CONDITIONAL.
I MEAN, LOOKING AT THE ONE STOP MAP, WHAT'S ACROSS ON CORA IS ZONED C TWO.
UM, AND AS WELL AS WELL ON BOTH SIDES, I DO SEE SOME C THREES, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF YOUR NEIGHBORS ARE C TWO.
SO I'M WONDERING WHAT KIND OF BUSINESS YOU'RE CONSIDERING THAT MIGHT NOT, I MEAN, I HEAR YOU SAY YOU DON'T WANNA LIMIT YOURSELF, BUT WHAT WOULD BE EXCLUDED THAT YOU MIGHT WISH TO ATTRACT? I WOULD SAY PROBABLY, UM,
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AUTO REPAIR, GLASS REPAIR.UM, AND THAT'S BASICALLY MECHANIC REPAIR SHOPS.
I DON'T BELIEVE THOSE ARE UNDER THE C FALL, UNDER THE C TWO.
I MEAN, I, I MIGHT BE WRONG, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THOSE KINDS OF BUSINESSES WOULD FALL UNDER THE C TWO.
AND, UH, MAY I MENTION SOMETHING ELSE? UH, I KNOW STEPH MENTIONED THAT WE CAME BEFORE THE BOARD IN 2019, AND THEN IT WAS WITHDRAWN, HOWEVER, IN, NO, IN FEBRUARY OF 2020, WE DID COME BEFORE THE BOARD AND IT WAS APPROVED.
THIS, THIS, UH, UH, I DON'T HAVE THE CASE NUMBER.
I CAN PROVIDE THAT TO STAFF, BUT IT WAS IN APRIL OF, RATHER IN FEBRUARY OF 2020 JUST BEFORE COVID HIT, AND THAT'S WHEN EVERYTHING GOT PLACED ON HOLD.
SO IS IT CORRECT TO SAY THAT THERE, IT THEN THAT IT WAS WITHDRAWN THEN THAT THERE WAS NOT, IT WAS WITHDRAWN IN, IN 19, UH, IN 2019, I BELIEVE WHAT STAFF MENTIONED, HOWEVER, WE, WE REAPPLIED AND IN FEBRUARY OF 2020, WE CAME BEFORE THE BOARD AND THIS, IT WAS APPROVED, UM, JUST BEFORE COVID AND THEN AFTER COVID, WE NEVER CAME BACK.
AND WHAT WAS THE APPROVAL FOR? UH, I BELIEVE IT WAS C THREE.
C D N A C THREE AND A RATHER C THREE AND A.
WE'VE ALWAYS HAD REQUESTED C THREE AND A.
IT PROBABLY WOULD'VE BEEN EASIER JUST TO SEND THIS WHOLE TIMELINE TO YOU GUYS.
UH, THIS IS ONGOING FOR SEVERAL PROPERTIES IN THAT AREA.
UH, PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WAS MARCH ONE, WAS MARCH, UH, 2019.
IT WAS CONTINUED ANOTHER CONTINUANCE ON APRIL, 2019, A POSTPONEMENT ON JUNE.
IN JUNE, 2019, IT WAS POSTPONED.
SO A PLANNING COMMISSION TOOK NO ACTION ZONING COMMISSION.
IT WAS CONTINUED AS WELL, BOTH IN APRIL AND MAY OF THAT YEAR, 2019, AND POSTPONED IN JUNE OF 2019.
SO WE HAVE NO, UH, ACTION THAT WAS ACTION THAT WAS TAKEN IF IT WAS IN FACT CONSIDERED IN ANY WAY.
UM, IF IT WAS NOT MOVED FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL WITHIN SIX MONTHS, IT'S BASICALLY LIKE A, A WITHDRAWAL OR A, THE CASE DIES FOR INACTIVITY.
SO IF THE APPLICANT IS SAYING THAT THE ZONING COMMISSION APPROVED A C THREE NA IN IN FEBRUARY OF 2020.
OH, IT WASN'T ZONING COMMISSION.
IT WAS A PLAN AMENDMENT COMMISSION.
PLANNING COMMISSION DOES NOT APPROVE FOR C THREE A.
AND SAY AT THE PODIUM, THE ZONING COMMISSION? YES.
IT WASN'T ZONING, IT WAS POSTPONED DUE TO THE FACT THAT PEOPLE CAME UP TO TALK AGAINST IT.
SO THE ZONING COMMISSIONER RECOMMENDED THAT HE PUT IT ON HOLD FOR 30 DAYS PLUS, AND THAT'S WHEN COVID HIT TO GET WITH A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION TO MEND WITH THEM.
AND THAT'S WHEN COVID HIT AND EVERYTHING.
AND EVERYTHING WAS PUT ON HOLD SINCE THEN.
AND NOW WE'RE JUST BACK TRYING TO, UH, FOR PROPOSAL FOR THOSE TWO LOTS, I MEAN EIGHT LOTS, WHICH WERE ON THOSE TWO ADDRESSES IN THE CORNER.
IT WAS THE, IS THIS THE PLANNING COMMISSION? OKAY.
IT WAS THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT APPROVED IT AND THEN IT WAS PLACED ON HOME.
SO IS THE REQUESTED C THREE NA ZONING, IS THAT TRIGGERING THE PLAN AMENDMENT TO, UH, REGIONAL COMMERCIAL, UH, I'M SORRY, REGIONAL MIXED USE? YES, SIR.
THAT'S THE ONLY CATEGORY THAT ALLOWS THE C THREE.
RIGHT NOW THE, THE HIGHEST THEY CAN GO IN URBAN MIXED USE IS A C TWO.
COULD, I MEAN, THERE'S OTHER PROPERTIES ACROSS THE WAY THAT ARE C THREE THAT ARE NOT REGIONAL MIXED USE.
IS THAT, UH, WAS THAT OLD ZONING BEFORE THE, THE ZONING WAS IN PLACE? UM, PRIOR, AFTER THE PLAN? YEAH.
UM, NOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT THE USES THAT THEY'VE DESCRIBED OR, OR CAN, IN YOUR OPINION, CAN BE DONE IN A C TWO? YES.
IF IT'S BAKERY OFFICE SUITES, ALL OF THAT'S ALLOWED IN A C TWO.
AND THAT WOULD NOT TRIGGER THE REGIONAL MIXED USE PLAN AMENDMENT? THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY COULD BE CONTAINED IN THE URBAN MIXED USE THE CURRENT PLAN.
AND IF THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS MORE INTENSE THAT IS ONLY ALLOWED IN A C THREE, THEY COULD ZONE JUST FOR THAT TO A C
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TWO CD.YEAH, I MEAN, TO ME, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THERE'S C THREE AROUND HERE, BUT I HAVE AN AWFUL HARD TIME, UH, DOING A REGIONAL MIX USE OR ANY TYPE OF REGIONAL DESIGNATION ON A, ON A PIECE OF LAND.
THAT'S, I MEAN, IT DOESN'T MEET THE CRITERIA FOR ANY REGIONAL MIX OR ANY REGIONAL DESIGNATION.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ACREAGE IS, BUT IT'S LESS THAN 20 ACRES.
UM, AND IT'S NOT, IT DOESN'T MEET THE, UH, THE INTERSECTION CRITERIA BEING ON A MAJOR HIGHWAY.
TO ME, IT'S, IT'S NOT REGIONAL MIXED USE LAND.
UM, AND I WOULD BE IN OPPOSITION TO CHANGING IT TO THAT.
COMMISSIONER SCH NO QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER GARCIA? NO QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER ORIAN? NO QUESTIONS.
UH, BRIEFLY FOR STAFF LOOKING AT EASTERLING ON THE ONE STOP, STOP, IT IS A DEAD END INTO A PRIVATE ROAD, IT LOOKS LIKE.
UM, GOOGLE MAPS, HOWEVER, SEEMS TO INDICATE THAT EASTERLING CONTINUES ON IN SOME MANNER, WHETHER IT'S PRIVATE ROAD OR OTHERWISE, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO IMPALA SUMMIT.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE GOOGLE MAPS ON IMPALA SUMMIT GOING NORTH, YOU SEE A T C I, WHICH DATES THE PICTURE, BUT YOU SEE A T C I NOTICE, UH, FROM THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO FOR THE ROAD.
UM, IS STAFF AWARE OF ANY PLAN, INTENTION, WHATEVER, TO CONNECT EASTERLING AND IMPALA SUMMIT? I DO NOT KNOW OF ANY INTENTION FOR THAT, BUT I CAN FIND OUT ABOUT IT.
I DO KNOW THAT THERE NEEDED TO BE ACCESS THROUGH THERE, UH, FOR MITIGATION OF, UH, DUMPING INTO THE CREEK THERE BECAUSE IT DUMPS INTO A CREEK.
SO IT MAY HAVE IN UNINTENTIONALLY BECOME A TEMPORARY, UH, AREA WHERE TRUCKS WERE DRIVING JUST TO CHECK THE AREA FOR, FOR DUMPING.
UM, 'CAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD IMPACT SORT OF HOW I VIEW THIS BOAT FOR EVERYONE'S BENEFIT PLANNING AND ZONING, UH, BECAUSE THAT WOULD CONNECT THIS A LOT MORE READILY TO OTHER RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR STAFF.
UM, ON THOSE PREVIOUS, UH, APPLICATIONS, WAS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL? I, I WOULD HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT.
I DON'T BELIEVE IT WAS FOR APPROVAL.
WAS IT FOR A, A CHANGE OF A PLAN AMENDMENT? I MEAN, DID THIS, THIS, SO THIS BODY SAW IT FOR A PLAN AMENDMENT AND SURE.
IF YOU, IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, GO AHEAD AND ASK THAT AND I'LL LOOK, I'LL TRY TO FIND THAT FOR YOU.
I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
UM, I MEAN, JUST TO COMMENT, I I ECHO WHAT MY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ALREADY STATED AND WITH THE FACT THAT WHAT THE APPLICANT THEORETICALLY WANTS TO DO COULD BE ACHIEVED WITHOUT A CHANGE IN, UM, WITHOUT A PLAN AMENDMENT, UH, COULD GO, YOU KNOW, TO ZONING AS IS.
AND, UM, WHILE CHRISTIE IS LOOKING THAT UP, ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? THOSE WERE ALL MY COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS I MOVE TO DENIED THIS CASE.
MOTION FOR DENIAL FROM COMMISSIONER ORIAN.
SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER PECK.
I WOULD LIKE TO JUST HEAR, UH, CHRISTIE FINDS BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE, IF THAT'S OKAY.
IF, IF YOU CAN'T FIND IT, CHRISSY, THAT'S, THAT'S OKAY.
I'M, I'M PULLING UP THE MAP RIGHT NOW TO SEE I, WE HAVE THE FILES IN BILL ESSAY.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF LOOKING TO SEE WHAT, WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION IS.
YOU KNOW WHAT, MY VOTE PROBABLY WON'T MATTER.
SO, UM, GO AHEAD AND TAKE ROLL CALL FOR THE REST OF THE COMMISSIONERS AND I'LL VOTE.
LAST COMMISSIONER GARCIA, OR I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER ORIAN.
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YES.IT WAS PULLED FROM INDIVIDUAL WITH STAFF REPRESE OH AND BETA'S ZONING PLANNER.
ITEM NUMBER 23 IS A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE LONE STAR COMMUNITY PLAN FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO LOW DENSITY MIXED USE LOCATED AT 1 4 3 FOREST AVENUE AND 1 4 5 FOREST AVENUE.
THERE WERE 49 TOTAL NOTICES MAILED WITH ZERO RETURN IN FAVOR, ZERO IN OPPOSITION.
AND COLLINS GARDEN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED THE PROPOSED LAND USE AMENDMENT FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO LOW DENSITY MIXED USE IS REQUESTED TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO I D Z ONE LIMITED INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE DISTRICT WITH USES PERMITTED FOR THREE DWELLING UNITS WHILE THE SURROUNDING LAND USE IS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
THE LOW DENSITY MIXED USE CATEGORY IS REQUIRED TO REZONE TO ANY I D Z INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE DISTRICT DESIGNATION IN THE LONE STAR COMMUNITY PLAN.
THE REQUEST STILL MAINTAINS THE LOW DENSITY LAND USE, BUT INCLUDES THE AMENDED MIXED USE AS PART OF THE LAND USE CLASSIFICATION IS NEEDED FOR THE REZONING.
THERE IS EXISTING LOW DENSITY MIXED USE TO THE SOUTHEAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND THE LAND USE CHANGE WILL CREATE THE ABILITY TO ZONE FOR MORE DENSITY TO SUPPORT DIVERSE HOUSING.
AND THE PLAN GOALS OF THE LONE STAR COMMUNITY PLAN STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
GO AHEAD AND STATE YOUR, UM, NAME AND I'M SORRY YOU'RE THE APPLICANT.
UH, ANTHONY ALMARAZ AND, UH, I RESIDE AT 16 7 3 5 LA AND TERRA, UH, THAT'S 7 8 2 5 6.
DO YOU HAVE ANY, UM, PRESENTATION THAT, DO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT AT ALL? UM, I MEAN, JUST, JUST TO KIND OF OVERVIEW AS FAR AS WHAT WE'RE PLANNING.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S TWO AND A HALF STORIES AS FAR AS WHAT I D Z PERMITS AND ALLOWS.
UM, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO OBVIOUSLY ADD EVEN MORE ACCESS AND, UH, WHAT IS NECESSARY.
IT DOESN'T REQUIRE ANY PARKING, UM, OR DRIVEWAYS IN, IN ESSENCE IN WHICH WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, YOU KNOW, CLEARING OUT THE STREETS, MAKING IT WHERE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT BLOCKADING, UM, AND ALLOWING USE IN THAT.
THERE'S ALREADY I D Z, THERE'S I BELIEVE TWO PROPERTIES, UH, ON THE, I BELIEVE THAT'S THE, THE NORTH END.
UM, AND I ALSO HAVE ANOTHER PROPERTY IN, UH, LONE STAR AREA IN WHICH THERE IS TWO AND A HALF STORIES RIGHT THERE ON HANES AVENUE.
BUT, UH, AS FAR AS THIS GOES, YOU KNOW, IT'S A TWO AND A HALF STORY BUILD.
WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT EXCEEDING ANY REQUIREMENTS.
IN FACT, WE'VE EVEN LOWERED SOME OF THE, UH, SQUARE FOOTAGE AND, AND I BELIEVE IT'S PERMISSIBLE FOR FOUR DWELLINGS.
THE WAY THE LOT SITS CURRENTLY, IT ISN'T EVEN ALLOWING TO BUILD A HOME ON IT.
UH, I BELIEVE IT'S 4,000 SOME SQUARE FOOTAGE.
SO RE I MEAN, EVEN THERE'S A CURRENT HOUSE ON IT, SO IT'S ON THE LOT NEXT TO IT.
IT, IT, IT ISN'T EVEN BIG ENOUGH TO BUILD THE WAY IT CURRENTLY IS.
UH, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO LIST, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING.
SO IT, IT HAS TO BE REZONED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF FUNCTIONALITY, UH, FOR SOME TYPE OF DWELLING.
SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, UH, FOR THE PROPERTY.
UM, I'LL START ON MY LEFT THIS TIME WITH COMMISSIONER UH, LOPEZ.
SO YOU'RE COMBINING THESE TWO, THE PLANETS TO COMBINE THESE TWO LOTS AND BUILD THREE TOWN HOMES? YES SIR.
Y'ALL DO IT AS CONDOS? SAY THAT AGAIN, I'M SORRY.
UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE SINGLE FAMILY.
THEY'RE GONNA BE SINGLE FAMILY.
AND IT'S ALL RESIDENTIAL, CORRECT? YES SIR.
COMMISSIONER MR. MONTE? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.
THIS WAS, UH, PULLED AT MY REQUEST.
SO RIGHT NOW IT'S LOADED IN CITY RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS LIMITED FROM R THREE TO R SIX, SINGLE FAMILY ZONING.
UM, THE LOW DENSITY MIXED USE IS REQUIRED BECAUSE THIS IS AN I D Z SITE PLAN.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
AND THE LONE STAR COMMUNITY PLAN WAS PASSED IN 2013? YES SIR.
UM, AND SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S NO INDICATION BETWEEN I D Z ONE TWO, ET CETERA IN THIS PLAN? THAT'S CORRECT.
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DESIGNATION.MY ONE CONCERN WITH THE, WITH THE LOW DENSITY MIXED USE IS THAT IT OPENS UP TO ALL THE WAY UP TO C TWO PEDESTRIAN COMMERCIAL ZONING, UH, AS WELL AS SOME M X D A E TWO AND A E FOUR ZONING.
UM, BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO USE I D Z, THE ONLY WAY TO DO THAT OR THE LEAST DENSE WAY OF DOING THAT IS LOW DENSITY MIXED USE.
AND THE REST OF MY QUESTIONS ARE ZONING QUESTIONS, SO I WILL DEAL WITH THEM NEXT WEEK.
COMMISSIONER BUSA MONTE, UH, COMMISSIONER ORIAN? UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER GARCIA, I HAVE NO QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER SCHINDLER? NO QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER BECK? NO QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER MILAM? NO QUESTIONS.
AND I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.
UM, IF YOU DON'T MIND, GO AHEAD.
UH, YOUR, YOUR SITE PLAN, IS THIS WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO MOVE FORTH WITH FOR YOUR ID Z ONE SITE PLAN? YES, SIR.
ARE YOU GONNA PROVIDE ADEQUATE PARKING? 'CAUSE YOU'RE ONLY SHOWING 10 FEET FROM THE, UH, FROM THE GARAGE UP HERE TO, UH, FOREST AVENUE? YES, SIR.
YEAH, WE WILL BE, UH, PROVIDING ADEQUATE PARKING.
UH, THAT'S SOMETHING I'LL HAVE TO PROBABLY GO WITH THE ARCHITECT ON.
UM, I KNOW WE HAVE ON, ON, UH, WHAT IS THAT MARKET STREET? UH, THERE'S ALREADY A DRIVEWAY ACTUALLY ACCESS, IT'S ALREADY, UH, PAVED INTO THE, UH, CURB ON THE RIGHT SIDE.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT MAYBE, UH, HAVING THE FRONT, UM, OR I, I WOULD SAY THE LEFT, UH, HOUSE, UH, WITH THAT PARKING ALREADY, THAT'S ALREADY THERE.
I JUST, IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, YOUR SIDE PLAN'S, NOT AT OUR PURVIEW, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHEN YOU DO INCREASE DENSITY, INPUT A NUMBER OF DRIVEWAYS THAT YOU'RE NOT FORCING PEOPLE TO PARK ON THE STREET OR SOMETHING NEAR A CORNER.
CORRECT? UH, THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY CONCERN, BUT IF YOU'RE GONNA TAKE CARE OF IT, I'M FINE.
I D Z, UH, ONE WAVES PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
YEAH, BUT THEY, THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM IS THAT YOU DON'T WANT EVERYONE WORKING ON THE STREET
OKAY, COMMISSIONER, UM, OH, I'M SORRY.
WERE YOU DONE? COMMISSIONER ORIAN? YES.
COMMISSIONER ZUKI? NO QUESTION.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER SIEGEL.
CAN YOU TAKE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES.
UM, RIGHT, UM, ITEM NUMBER 24.
LAST I DON'T, ANN BENAVIDEZ ZONING PLANNER.
ITEM NUMBER 24 IS A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE NO GTOS SOUTH SAR MODA COMMUNITY PLAN FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AND IS LOCATED AT 8 1 5 BRIGHTON AVENUE.
THERE WERE 24 NOTICES SENT WITH 11 RETURN IN FAVOR, ONE IN OPPOSITION.
THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND OUTSIDE THE 200 FOOT BOUNDARY, THERE WERE 16 IN FAVOR.
THE PROPOSED LAND USE AMENDMENT FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL IS REQUESTED TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO NC NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO PERMIT THE DEVELOPMENT OF A HARDWARE STORE ON THE PROPERTY WHILE THE PROPERTY DOES A BUT INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 35 AND THE ACCESS ROAD, THE PROPERTY IS PART OF AN ESTABLISHED SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD.
IF RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL, THE PLAN AMENDMENT WOULD ALLOW FOR COMMERCIAL LAND USE ENCROACHMENT INTO A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
ADDITIONALLY, THE PROPERTY IS AT THE INTERSECTION OF BRIGHTON AVENUE AND THE ACCESS ROAD IS ADDRESSED OFF OF A LOCAL STREET, WHICH IS NOT AN IDEAL STREET CLASSIFICATION.
TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION, STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTION.
AND I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY ON THE STAFF REPORT, I DID PUT THAT COLLINS GARDEN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WAS THE REGISTERED NA, BUT THAT WAS A MISTAKE.
ASHLEY FAIRMAN KILLING GRIFFIN AND FAIRMAN 1 0 1 0 1 REUNION PLACE.
SO, UM, AS, AS WAS MENTIONED, WE ARE ASKING FOR AN AMENDMENT TO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, WHICH, WHICH WE ACTUALLY THINK THIS IS VERY REASONABLE FOR A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT'S LOCATED ON THE HIGHWAY.
UM, I KNOW THERE WAS MENTION ABOUT ACCESS OFF OF A, A RESIDENTIAL STREET, BUT IF, IF WE HAVE NO
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ACCESS TO EVEN NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL OFF OF A STREET, WHERE, WHERE WOULD NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL GO? YOU KNOW, WHERE DO WE DRAW THE LINE BETWEEN SINGLE FAMILY AND, AND WHERE WE START HAVING COMMERCIAL? SO WE THINK NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL IS, IS ENTIRELY REASONABLE AT THIS LOCATION.UM, AS WAS MENTIONED, HERE'S THE PROPERTY.
IT'S 0.157 ACRES ACROSS THE STREET FROM A VACANT PIECE OF PROPERTY OWNED BY THE CITY.
UH, THIS PIECE IS VACANT, SO WE'RE NOT REMOVING ANY EXISTING HOUSING STOCK, AND IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE THAT ANYONE WOULD WANT TO BUILD A NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOME, UM, DIRECTLY ON THE FRONTAGE ROAD.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA OF A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS HERE, A VERY SMALL ONE, PROVIDING THAT BUFFER BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND THE HIGHWAY, UH, SEEMS TO MAKE A LOT OF SENSE.
HERE'S AN EXHIBIT JUST SHOWING OTHER COMMERCIAL USES THAT ARE ON THE HIGHWAY.
UH, IN THAT AREA, WE ARE THE YELLOW STAR, AND THEN THOSE ARE SOME EXISTING BUSINESSES THAT ARE THERE ALL ZONED MORE INTENSELY, UM, THAN THE NC THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.
UH, HERE'S A, A CURRENT ZONING MAP.
YOU CAN SEE THE, THE RED IS EXISTING COMMERCIAL ALONG THE HIGHWAY.
UM, AND THEN HERE IS IS THE LAND USE MAP.
SO THE PINK ON THAT MAP ACROSS THE STREET IS NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.
UH, THE ZONING AND USES IN THAT AREA, UM, ARE ACTUALLY MORE INTENSE THAN NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, BUT WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT.
THAT SAME PINK NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION ON THIS PIECE, UH, THIS IS JUST PULLED FROM THE NO GTOS SOUTH SOURA PLAN ON WHERE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL SHOULD GO.
UM, I DID CIRCLE, IT DOES SAY THIS FORM OF DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE ORIENTED TOWARD THE CENTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND LOCATED AWAY FROM MAJOR ARTERIALS.
SO IT SEEMS LIKE THE, TO ME, THE EXISTING LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IS AN INAPPROPRIATE LAND USE DESIGNATION, FRONTING ON THE HIGHWAY.
UH, AND WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR AGAIN, IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.
UM, WHAT THIS DESCRIBES IS SMALL AREAS OF SERVICE THAT SERVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.
GENERALLY LESS THAN 5,000 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS ALSO WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IN SEA LIMITS BUILDINGS TO 3000 SQUARE FEET OR SMALLER, A SINGLE BUILDING, UM, YOU CAN HAVE UP TO 5,000 SQUARE FEET, BUT ONLY ONE BUILDING WITH 3000 SQUARE FEET.
UM, AND THEN JUST, I KNOW WE'RE ASKING FOR THE PLAN AMENDMENT HERE, BUT THESE ARE SOME OF THE, I WOULD SAY, PROTECTIONS OR RESTRICTIONS THAT COME ALONG WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL ZONING.
AGAIN, THERE'S THE BUILDING SIZE LIMITATION.
UM, THERE'S A BUILDING HEIGHT LIMITATION.
WE'RE LIMITED TO 25 FEET, WHICH IS ACTUALLY LESS THAN THE RESIDENTIAL ZONING.
UM, WE'RE REQUIRED TO BUILD A FENCE BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL ZONING AND ANY COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THIS TRACK.
15 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER IS REQUIRED WITH THE NC NEXT TO THE R FIVE.
UM, THAT IS, IS A PRODUCT OF THE ZONING, NOT OF THE USE.
SO IF WE REZONE TO A COMMERCIAL USE, THAT'S WHEN THE BUFFER IS TRIGGERED.
UM, AND SO THEN ALSO THE INTENT OF THE NC IS TO HAVE BUILDINGS FRONTING MORE CLOSE TO THE STREETS.
SO THE BUILDING WOULD BE CLOSER TO 35, UM, AS OPPOSED TO THE RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS ALSO REQUIRED BY SETBACKS AND PARKING IN THE REAR AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.
UM, THE OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY WHO WOULD ALSO BE DEVELOPING IT FOR THE HARDWARE STORE, UH, HE WENT AND TALKED TO HIS NEIGHBORS, WENT DOOR TO DOOR TO SHARE WITH THEM ABOUT THE BUSINESS, ABOUT THE USE, AND THIS WAS THE, THE SUPPORT HE WAS ABLE TO OBTAIN FROM PEOPLE IN THE AREA.
SO, UM, WITH THAT I WILL STOP AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER BUSANTE? NO QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER ORIAN? NO QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER GARCIA? I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT, ABOUT THE INGRESS, UH, TO THE PROPERTY, UM, GIVEN THE SPEED LIMIT ON THE ACCESS ROAD.
AND SO THE INGRESS AND INGRESS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO WORK OUT.
I MEAN, IT, IT, WHETHER THAT'S A, A TEXT OUT APPROVAL OR A CITY APPROVAL, I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO COMPLY WITH ALL RESTRICTIONS ON THAT.
AND I THINK THAT THAT WILL, YOU KNOW, DETERMINE REALLY HOW THE SITE IS LAID OUT AND, AND WHAT'S REQUIRED FOR SAFETY AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.
SO I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHERE THE INGRESS AND EGRESS WILL BE YET.
UM, BUT I MEAN, ENGINEERS ON THIS BOARD, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S COMPLICATED.
UM, AND THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT WILL NEED TO BE ANSWERED IN TERMS OF HOW BIG THE BUSINESS IS AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.
COMMISSIONER BECK? NO QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? NO QUESTIONS.
UM, I MISSED THAT IN THE MORNING.
UH, ANY, UH, RESPONSES FROM THE NEIGHBORS ON THIS CASE? THAT, THAT, OKAY.
SO, UH, THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THIS CASE WENT DOOR TO DOOR.
UM, THEY GOT, UH, LET'S SEE HERE.
THEY GOT 11 IN FAVOR INSIDE THE 200 FOOT BOUNDARY AND OUTSIDE THE 200 FOOT BOUNDARY, THERE WAS 16 IN FAVOR.
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UM, THERE WAS ONE IN OPPOSITION INSIDE THE 200 FOOT BOUNDARY.AND I HAVE NO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
UM, SO WITH THAT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
SECOND, UH, MOTION BY COMMISSIONER PECK.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA.
LEGAL CALL COMMISSIONER PECK? YES.
COMMISSIONER CARILLO HAYNES? YES.
UM, MADAM CHAIR, UNDERSTAND, JUST TO VERIFY THAT IS APPROVAL OF APPLICANT'S REQUEST YES.
UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAD SOME VOICE MESSAGES FOR ONE OF THE PRE A PREVIOUS ITEMS, SO WE WILL HAVE TO GO AHEAD AND, UM, PLAY THOSE IF WE CAN GO AHEAD AND PLAY THOSE NOW.
ITEM NUMBER 19 HAD, UH, VARIOUS VOICEMAILS IN OPPOSITION.
ADDRESS IS 8 1 0 EAST ASHBY PLACE FROM 1 7 8 2 1 2.
WE'RE JUST CALLING TO, UH, LEAVE A NOTE OF OPPOSITION AGAINST ITEM NUMBER 19 FOR TOMORROW'S PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
HI, MY NAME IS ANNA LEE KOONS AND I'M A RESIDENT OF TOBIN HILL OVER ON, UH, 4 0 4 MYRTLE STREET, EAST MYRTLE.
AND I WAS CALLING BECAUSE I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF ITEM NUMBER 19.
UM, THERE'S WAY TOO MUCH DEVELOPMENT FOR WHAT'S GOING ON IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, THE CRIME IS GETTING A LITTLE BIT WORSE OVER THERE ON THE SHIP BECAUSE OF ALL THE EXTRA ACTIVITY THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH.
UM, AND IT IS JUST, IT'S TOO MUCH AND, UH, I AM VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED TO, UM, ADDING OH, WHAT A THOUSAND MORE UNITS TO, TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO, UM, AGAIN, MY NAME IS ANNALIE C***S.
I DO LIVE IN TOBIN HILL, 4 0 4 EAST MYRTLE STREET.
UM, MY CONTACT INFORMATION 2 1 0 3 0 3 4 6 6 6, I DO WORK IN A CALL CENTER AT U S A A AND SO I CAN'T ANSWER MY PHONE OR NECESSARILY GET TO MY PHONE IF, IF YOU GUYS TRY TO REACH OUT TO ME.
UM, BUT YEAH, UM, YOU, YOU HAVE MY RESIDENCE IF YOU WANT TO CORRESPOND.
YES, MY NAME IS CHRISTOPHER GONZALEZ.
I CURRENTLY RESIDE AT 8 1 0 EAST ASHBY PLACE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 1 2.
AND I AM CALLING IN REGARDS TO ITEM NUMBER 19.
I AM ADDRESSING THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND WOULD LIKE TO OPPOSE THE IDEA AND PLAN FOR BUILDING HOUSING IN THE AREA.
I'M NOT REALLY FOND OF THE IDEA, I DON'T THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA WITH THE CONGESTION AND TRAFFIC.
THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES ALREADY WITH PARKING AND I UNDERSTAND THERE'S TALK OF BEING BUILT, YOU KNOW, PARKING GARAGES FOR THESE NEW HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS.
BUT EVEN THEN, I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO SOLVE OR FIX A LOT OF THESE TRAFFIC PROBLEMS. SO I AM JUST CALLING TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I AM DEFINITELY OPPOSED TO IT AND I HOPE THAT Y'ALL CONSIDER THIS AND TAKE IT INTO CONSIDERATION.
MY NAME IS JOSE A ALFARO AND I RESIDE AT 7 3 4 EAST ASHBY.
HI, MY NAME IS TERESA BEUS, ER, I LIVE ON, UM, AT, AT 7 1 8 EAST ASPE PLACE 7 8 2 1 2.
AND I WAS CALLING CONCERNING UM, UH, I GUESS ITEM NUMBER 19 ABOUT THE, UM, THE, UM, PROPERTY ON JOSEPHINE.
AND, UM, I, I AM INTERESTED THAT, UM, I DO NOT THINK THAT IT SHOULD BE, UM, DEVELOPED AT, AT
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AS UM, UM, WHATEVER IT'S GONNA BE DEVELOPED AS.UM, I DON'T THINK THAT IT SHOULD BE DEVELOPED AS, UM, I GUESS IT'S GONNA BE APARTMENTS OR SOMETHING.
UM, MY NUMBER, WELL, I GUESS THIS IS MY NUMBER, SO THANK YOU.
I'M AT 7 4 6 EAST ASHBY PLACE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS SEVEN EIGHT TWO ONE TWO.
MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 875-6954.
UH, THIS IS IN REGARDS TO AGENDA ITEM EITHER 18 OR 19.
I'VE SEEN IT, UH, DIFFERENT ON BOTH, BUT IT'S FOR WEST JOSEPHINE STREET TO CHANGE FROM AN EMPLOYMENT FLEX MIXED USE TO REGIONAL MIXED USE.
UH, I CALLED EARLIER, BUT JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT, UH, I GOT THE RIGHT AGENDA ITEM.
WE'RE IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA, UH, BETWEEN THE, THE ST.
MARY'S STREET, ALL THE TRAFFIC AND AND NOISE THAT COMES FROM THAT.
UH, WE HAVE A, A NEW, UH, MULTIUNIT MULTI-USE APARTMENT AT THE END OF OUR STREET.
UH, AND JUST MORE STUFF COMING IN ON JOSEPHINE.
SO UNTIL THE CITY CAN, CAN FIX SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE ROADS AROUND HERE ARE, ARE TERRIBLE.
UM, AND FIX SOME OF THE NOISE IN THE PARKING ISSUES I'M OPPOSED TO, TO PUTTING IN NEW, UH, MULTI-USE RESIDENT OR RESIDENTIAL LARGE, LARGE APARTMENTS OR LARGE BUSINESSES LIKE THAT.
ALRIGHT, THOSE ARE ALL MADAM CHAIR VOICEMAILS.
AS THIS WAS ALREADY APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION, UH, IN LIGHT OF THE VOICEMAILS, WE CAN EITHER LET THAT APPROVAL CONTINUE OR WE CAN REHEAR THE ITEM AT YOUR DISCRETION.
AND WE DID LET PATRICK KNOW AND HE SAID THAT HE WOULD WORK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WERE IN OPPOSITION PRIOR TO ANY FURTHER HEARINGS.
DO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE A DESIRE TO REHEAR THAT ITEM? OKAY, HEARING NONE WILL LET IT STAND AS WE VOTED.
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IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.CAN I GET A MOTION IF NOBODY HAD ANY CHANGES THAT WAS PART OF CONSENT.
I'M SORRY, THAT WAS ONE OF THE CUSAL.
CAN I GET A SECOND? SECOND? CAN WE, UH, DO WE, WE WE CAN JUST DO A VOICE VOTE, RIGHT? OR DO WE HAVE TO DO ROLL CALL? OKAY.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.
WE HAVE THREE RECUSALS OR ABSTENTIONS.
UH, I JUST WANTED TO, UH, THANK STAFF AND THE COMMISSIONERS.
THIS IS MY LAST MEETING AND I WANTED TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR ALL THEIR SUPPORT AND HARD WORK OVER THE PAST FOUR YEARS.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS ARE IN GOOD HANDS WITH CHRIS OR NOT, BUT TIME WILL TELL.
OTHER THAN, UH, I THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE EASY SEARCH IN THE COMPUTER AND I HAD TO GO BACK TO THE OLD SYSTEM TO FIND OUT.
UM, THAT ITEM YOU ASKED ABOUT WAS IN THE WEST SOUTHWEST SECTOR PLAN BEFORE IT WAS REQUESTED TO GO FROM SUBURBAN TIER TO MIXED USE, WHICH IS ACTUALLY NOW WHAT IT IS UNDER THE NEW PLAN.
UM, BUT YES, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION THEN WAS FOR APPROVAL.
WELL, UM, IF NOTHING ELSE, WE ARE ADJOURNED.
10 34 MADAM CHAIR, I'D JUST LIKE TO MENTION ONE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR, UH, VOTE OF CONFIDENCE
UM, THE JANUARY 11TH MEETING WILL BE BACK TO NORMAL AT EIGHT TWO O'CLOCK TIMEFRAME, SO WORK SESSION WILL START AT ONE 30.
YES, THANK YOU AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.