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ALRIGHT LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU.
COMMISSIONERS, PLEASE TAKE YOUR SEATS.
GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
IF WE COULD PLEASE HAVE OUR SPANISH LANGUAGE INTERPRETATION SERVICES STATEMENT.
I SAW HER WARMING UP BACK THERE, SO GOOD AFTERNOON.
UH, WE ARE NO LONGER WEARING MASKS, BUT WE DO ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO GO GET VACCINATED.
WE'RE STILL IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TRIPLE DIMMICK, UM, BUT MY NAME IS JOHN BUSTAMANTE AND I'M THE CHAIR OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT FIVE ZONING COMMISSIONER.
THE TIME IS ONE OH ONE AND I HEREBY CALL THIS REGULARLY NOTICED MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION INTO SESSION.
ALRIGHT, I LIKE TO DO ROLL CALL BY ALLOWING THE ZONING COMMISSIONERS TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, STARTING WITH THE COMMISSIONER ON MY FAR LEFT.
UH, MARK ROS, DISTRICT NINE, MARK WHITE, DISTRICT 10, VALDO ORTIZ, DISTRICT EIGHT, TAYLOR WATSON, DISTRICT TWO, SUMMER GRADE HOUSE DISTRICT ONE.
MICHELLE ALIAHA, MAYORS APPOINTEE.
CHARLES FUENTES FOR DISTRICT THREE.
WOULD EVERYONE PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
ALRIGHT, PRIOR TO BEGINNING OUR HEARING, I WOULD LIKE STAFF TO REVIEW OUR MEETING FORMAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE IN ATTENDANCE.
UH, STAFF IF YOU WOULD, BEFORE I BEGIN, PLEASE TURN YOUR PHONES, UM, VIBRATE OR TURN THEM OFF.
THE ZONING COMMISSION IS AN 11 MEMBER BODY APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ZONING CASES UPON RECEIVING A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION, YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO FORWARD YOUR CASE TO CITY COUNCIL.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PROCEDURE, PLEASE CONTACT YOUR CASE MANAGER.
STAFF WILL BEGIN EACH CASE WITH A SHORT PRESENTATION OF THE REQUEST.
PART OF THE PRESENTATION INCLUDES A MAP THAT SHOWS THE AREA TO BE CONSIDERED FOR REZONING AND PROPERTY WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT.
PROPERTY CHECK MARKS INDICATE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND AN X INDICATES THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN OPPOSITION.
FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION AND ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION, THE APPLICANT WILL PRESENT THEIR REQUEST FOR THOSE THAT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE PROPOSED REZONING.
YOU WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THAT YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
THOSE IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER AND YOU'RE NOT OBLIGATED TO UTILIZE THE MAXIMUM TIME LIMITATION.
YOU'LL BE INFORMED THAT THE THREE MINUTES ARE UP.
FOR THOSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEIR TIME TO A SPEAKER, THAT SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO PEOPLE GIVING THEIR TIME FOR A TOTAL OF NINE MINUTES.
THOSE GIVING UP THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AND SIGNED IN TO SPEAK.
THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL LIMITED TO ONE SPEAKER WITH A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT ALONG WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSION QUESTIONS.
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UH, DO WE HAVE ANY PROPOSED, I'M SORRY, POSTPONED OR WITHDRAWN ITEMS? WE HAVE TWO ITEMS. NUMBER ONE, UH, ZONING CASE TWO 90 CD AT LOCATED AT 1 0 5 TERRELL AVENUE.AND THEN ITEM NUMBER TWO, ZONING CASE 2 78 LOCATED AT 9 4 4 6 ISPA ROAD.
AND LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, JUST TO REITERATE, UH, POSTPONEMENT MEANS THAT WE ARE TAKING NO ACTION TODAY AND PRIOR TO THESE ITEMS COMING BACK TO THE ZONING COMMISSION, THEY WILL BE RENO AS ALL OF OUR ITEMS ARE PUBLICLY NOTICED.
ALRIGHT, MOVING ON TO OUR COMBINED HEARING DOCKET.
UH, THESE ARE ITEMS ELIGIBLE FOR CONSENT.
IF WE COULD JUST GO OVER THE NUMBERS OF THE ITEM NUMBERS FOR THE COMBINED HEARING.
UM, I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT ITEM THREE AND ITEM 11 ARE, HAVE MOVED TO INDIVIDUAL ITEM THREE AND 11.
AND SO, UH, KELLY WILL READ THE REMAINDER, JUST, JUST NUMBERS RIGHT NOW SO I CAN
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PULL THE COMMISSIONERS, SORRY.THREE SHOULD BE MOVED TO THE JANUARY TO JANUARY 17TH.
ITEMS FOR CONSENT COMBINED HEARING, WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER FOUR, UM, WHICH IS A REQUEST AND CHANGE IN ZONING FROM RMM FOUR TO R M FOUR CD WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR PERFORMING ART STUDIO LOCATED AT TWO 30 CACTUS STREET.
AND DENVER HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT.
SORRY, I JUST NOTICED WE'RE GOOD.
I'M JUST SUPPOSED TO BE READING THE NUMBERS.
WE'LL, WE'LL READ 'EM INTO THE RECORD.
ITEM NUMBER FIVE, UM, ZONING CASE, UH, 3 1 2 IS A REQUEST FOR CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO RMM FOUR WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 2 2 9 5 0 WEIR AVENUE AND APPLICANT IS AMENDING TO R FOUR.
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS A REQUEST AND CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C THREE TO C THREE SS WITH A, WITH A SPECIFIC USE OF AUTHORIZATION FOR HELLA STOP LO GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE 3000 BLOCK OF WEST LOOP 1604 NORTH TWO NOTICES IN FAVOR.
ZERO IN UH, TWO NOTICES WERE SENT.
ZERO OPPOSED NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER NINE IS A REQUESTED CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FOUR TO R M FOUR WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 2006 AND 2018 R B AVENUE 30 NOTICES WERE SENT.
ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND NO RESPONSE FROM COMANCHE COMMUNITY SOUTHEAST SIDE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 14 IS A REQUEST AND CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX AND C TWO TO MF 33 WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE 5,000 BLOCK OF OLD PARASOL ROAD.
ONE IMPOSED AND NO RESPONSE FROM PEOPLE ACTIVE AND COMMUNITY EFFORT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 16 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C TWO AND NP 10 TO I TWO WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE 1400 BLOCK OF SOUTH FM 1516 AND 78 10 EAST INTERSTATE HIGHWAY.
ONE OPPOSED AND NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND ALSO ONE IN FAVOR OUTSIDE 200 FEET.
AND THEN ITEM NUMBER 17 IS A REQUEST AND CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FOUR TO I ONE WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 85 0 1 SOMERSET ROAD.
AND NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
THANK YOU SO MUCH MS. SANDERS.
UM, COMMISSIONERS, ANY ITEMS TO BE PULLED EITHER FOR CONTINUANCE OR INDIVIDUAL? LOOKING TO MY LEFT.
THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR A MOTION SIR, IF WE COULD HAVE MR. CHRISTIANSEN COME UP PLEASE.
ALRIGHT, LET'S DO UH, PATRICK AND THEN THE VOICEMAIL TOO.
PATRICK, CAN YOU PUSH THE BUTTON PLEASE? DO I NEED TO STATE THAT AGAIN? PATRICK CHRISTENSEN.
AND MR. CHRISTENSEN, WITH RESPECT TO NUMBER FIVE, ARE YOU AMENDING THE REQUEST YES.
TO R FOUR PER THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION'S REQUEST.
AND YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THAT IS GOING TO REQUIRE A PLAN AMENDMENT? YES SIR, I DO.
AND YOU'RE GONNA PURSUE THAT SEPARATELY? YES SIR.
IF WE COULD GO ONTO THE VOICEMAIL.
AND, UH, KELLY'S GONNA READ THE COUNTS FOR THAT ITEM INTO THE RECORD AS WELL.
FOR ITEM NUMBER FIVE, THERE WERE EIGHT NOTICES SENT.
ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED, AND NO RESPONSE FROM THOMPSON NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ALRIGHT, THE VOICEMAIL PLEASE.
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UH, YES, I'M CALLING IN REGARDS TO CASE NUMBER 3, 2 3.SHE, I'M A PROPERTY OWNER THERE AT THE CORNERSTONE OF RAY ELLISON BOULEVARD AND OLD PEARSALL ROAD.
UM, AND I'M CALLING IN FAVOR OF TODAY'S PROPOSED, UH, ZONING CHANGE AT THE ADDRESS GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE 5,000 BLOCK OF OLD PEARSALL ROAD.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE HERE FOR ANY OF THESE ITEMS LISTED ON THE COMBINED HEARING? NUMBER ONE, THERE IS NOT SEEING NONE.
UH, THE FLOOR IS NOW OPEN FOR A MOTION FOR REAL.
MR. CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE FOLLOWING ITEMS, ITEMS NUMBER FOUR, NUMBER FIVE AS AMENDED.
NUMBER 14, NUMBER 16 AND NUMBER 17.
ALRIGHT, THERE'S A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES.
UH, FOR A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AS READ BY COMMISSIONER SIPES FOR 4 5 8 9 14 16 AND 17.
DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT, COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT.
SEEING NONE, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.
IF WE COULD NOW MOVE ON TO OUR CONTINUANCE HEARING, UH, DOCKET FOR JANUARY 17TH.
ITEMS FOR CONTINUANCE WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER THREE.
UM, A REQUEST IN ZONING OR CHANGE IN ZONING FROM I TWO TO I D Z TWO WITH USES PERMITTED FOR 14 DWELLING UNITS, ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 1 0 2 HEIN STREET AND 900 LARRY STREET.
AND HARVARD PLACE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED.
ITEM NUMBER 12 IS A REQUEST AND CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FIVE TO I D Z ONE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR THREE DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 1 4 3 AND 1 4 5 FOREST AVENUE 49 NOTICES WERE SENT.
AND COLLINS GARDEN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED.
AND ITEM NUMBER 15 IS A REQUEST FOR CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C THREE NA TO M X D WITH A MAXIMUM DENSITY OF 50 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE 600 BLOCK OF RICHLAND HILLS DRIVE.
AND NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
UM, THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR A MOTION FOR THESE THREE ITEMS, MR. CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE FOR THE FOLLOWING ITEMS TO THE JANUARY 17TH, 2023 MEETING.
MEETING ITEMS NUMBER THREE, NUMBER 12 AND NUMBER 15.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER ORTIZ IS THE SECOND FOR A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE.
JANUARY 17TH FOR ITEMS THREE, 12 AND 15.
ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? TO MY LEFT.
SEEING NONE, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.
COMMISSIONER LUGA HOLLAND? YES.
ITEMS PASS FOR CONTINUANCE? VERY GOOD.
AND I DIDN'T SAY THIS AFTER THE COMBINED HEARING, BUT IF YOU ARE PRESENT FOR ANY OF THE ITEMS THAT WE'VE NOW COVERED, UH, FOR THOSE ON THREE 12 AND 15, WE'LL SEE YOU JANUARY 17TH.
UH, FOR THOSE WHO WERE IN THE EARLIER DOCKET, YOU CAN GO ON AND STAY WARM I GUESS.
USUALLY I CAN SAY ENJOY THE BEAUTIFUL WEATHER, BUT CAN'T DO THAT TODAY.
ALRIGHT, AT THIS POINT WE ARE GONNA START WITH OUR INDIVIDUAL HEARING, UH, AS IS INDICATED ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW, WE ARE GOING TO BEGIN WITH ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
ITEM NUMBER SIX WILL BE CONSIDERED LAST.
MY NAME IS ELIZABETH STEWART, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT
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SERVICES.ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS LOCATED AT 56 79 AND 57 45 EAST STERLING DRIVE GOING FROM R SIX TO C THREE AND A WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO STAY THE SAME.
THERE WERE 17 NOTICES MAILED FIVE IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED WITHIN 200 FEET AND 25 IN FAVOR.
OUTSIDE 200 FEET WITH NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
THE EXISTING R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED C THREE AND A GENERAL COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
WHILE THERE IS SOME OTHER C THREE GENERAL COMMERCIAL IN THE AREA, THE RECENT ESSAY TOMORROW PLAN IMPLEMENTATION AS OF APRIL, 2022.
CALLS FOR C TWO COMMERCIAL USE INTENSITIES.
THE REQUESTED C THREE AND A WOULD MAINTAIN MORE INTENSE COMMERCIAL USES RATHER THAN BRINGING THE USES DOWN TO A MORE COMPATIBLE RETAIL AND SERVICE USES AND WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE ABUTTING, LOW INTENSITY CHURCH, SCHOOL, AND RESIDENTIAL USES.
ADDITIONALLY, THE APPLICANT CAN ACHIEVE THEIR PROJECT GOALS TO CREATE COMMERCIAL SUITES BY REZONING TO C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS, WHICH ALLOWS PROFESSIONAL OFFICES, BAKERIES AND OTHER RETAIL SERVICE BUSINESSES.
IF THE APPLICANT DESIRES TO ACCOMMODATE USE ALLOWED IN THE C THREE GENERAL COMMERCIAL, A CONDITIONAL USE CAN BE USED TO ACCOMPLISH THIS FOR ONE PARTICULAR USE.
STAFF DOES FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
THE PROPOSED USE IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
THE SURROUNDING AREA STAFF RECOMMENDS A DENIAL WITH AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF C TWO.
COMMERCIAL DISTRICT STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS PRESENT.
ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE PLEASE.
HOW YOU DOING? BOBBY RERA, REP AND EMPLOYEE FOR A AND E LOPEZ CONSTRUCTION, US NAVY CBS VETERAN SAFETY OFFICER.
AND YOUR ADDRESS, SIR? ADDRESS? 9 0 0 6 MINT JULIP SA, TEXAS 7 8 2 5 1.
IF YOU WOULD TELL US ABOUT THE REQUEST OR DO YOU HAVE, ARE YOU WAITING FOR A PRESENTATION? ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD.
HERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LOTS EIGHT THROUGH 10 ON EASTERLING ROAD, BUT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE'D LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO OUR APPLICATION FROM C THREE TO C TWO.
THAT WAS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AS OF LAST WEEK.
UH, MR. ATA, BEFORE YOU GO FURTHER, DOES THAT INCLUDE THE NA DESIGNATION? YES.
HERE WE HAVE, UH, ZONING FOR LOTS A THROUGH 12 ON EASTERLING, OWNED BY MR. AND MRS. LOPEZ, THE PRESIDENT OF THE VICE PRESIDENT OF A AND E LOPEZ INSTRUCTION.
HERE WE TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS IN THE, IN THE AREA WE TALK ABOUT LOTS.
WE HAVE, UH, NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THAT EXISTS WITHIN 200 FEET RADIUS.
IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH THE LOTS ACROSS THE STREET IN THE AREA OFF EASTERLING, WHICH WE HAVE G T X, WHICH IS ZONE Z C THREE.
AND WE HAVE, UH, THE NEXT ONE, WHICH IS A POOL AREA.
HE'S ZONED C TWO AND THE PEOPLE ON THE CORNER OF EASTERLING.
THAT'S THE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO REZONE THAT'S LISTED ON THE CORNER.
THAT'S THE WHOLE PIECE OF PROPERTY RIGHT THERE IN USE.
HERE WE HAVE THE PLASTERING POOL THERE LO AS WE SPEAK THERE'S C TWO.
WE HAVE ACROSS THE STREET DIRECTLY FROM THE CORNER LOT.
AND THIS, IT'S A MOTORBIKE FOUR ONE REPAIR SHOP.
THEY ARE C THREE, CURRENTLY C THREE.
THERE'S A USED CAR LOT IN THE CORNER.
THERE'S ZONE C THREE, THE TENT TIRE, UH, AND STEREO SYSTEMS AND INSURANCE PEOPLE.
AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'VE TAKEN QUITE A BIT OF PHOTOS IN THE AREA THAT'S DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ZONE RIGHT NOW.
AND THAT'S THE CORNER, LOT OF EASTERLING AND COLLABO ROAD.
CURRENTLY WE HAVE, UH, GAS STATIONS ACROSS THE STREET.
WE HAVE FRUIT STANDS, WE HAVE NAIL SALONS, WE HAVE, UH, BEAUTY SALONS, BAKERIES, AUTO AND BODY SHOPS, TATTOO PARLORS.
WE HAVE INSURANCE, UH, AGENCIES, TIRE SHOPS AND AUTO REPAIR.
AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE CORNER FROM THE EXXON.
THEY ARE C THREE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET.
CATTYCORNER NEXT TO IT WE HAVE A, A LITTLE BUILDING.
THEY SELL THOSE, UH, SUMMER RASPER AND STUFF.
NEXT ONE ACROSS THE STREET, DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE, FROM THE LOT ITSELF.
WE HAVE TWO BODY AND PAINT SHOPS CURRENTLY.
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NEXT ONE, THAT'S ANOTHER BODY SHOP NEXT TO THE OTHER BODY SHOP.THE NEXT ONE, THE OWNERS THAT WE'VE MET WITH, THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTIES.
AND WE'D ALSO MET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS THEN COMMITTEE TO MAKE POINTS OF RESOLUTION COMPROMISE WITH THEM.
UH, WE MET, LAST TIME WE MET WAS THIS PAST SATURDAY, DECEMBER 17TH.
WE MET AT THE MISTY OAKS SWIMMING POOL AREA.
A LITTLE COOL OUTSIDE, BUT THAT'S WHERE THEY WANTED TO HAVE IT.
AND THE HEARING OF THE CORRELATION, MR. AND MRS. LOPEZ FAMILY IS SEEKING C TWO NA AS OPPOSED TO C THREE N A.
WHERE IS SHE? SHE'LL CONTINUE THE PRESENTATION.
UM, I HAVE TO SAY MY ADDRESS RIGHT.
UH, I, UH, ADDRESS IS, UH, 54 35 GRISSOM ROAD.
UM, I WORK IN ACCOUNTS AND DEVELOPMENT AT A AND E LOPEZ CONSTRUCTION, AND I'M THE DAUGHTER OF THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY.
WE ARE LOOKING TO HAVE THEM REZONED OUT OF R SIX TWO COMMERCIAL SPACE.
I HAVE PUT TOGETHER A ONE TO THREE YEAR MASTER PLAN OF WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO DO WITH THE SPACE NEXT AT PRESENT DATE.
GIVEN THE PHOTOS OF MR. HERRERA, THEY'RE NOT REALLY CONDUCIVE FOR HOUSING.
IT DOESN'T MATCH WHAT'S AROUND THE, THE AREA.
IT DOESN'T FIT THE NECESSARY INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S ALREADY PRESENT THERE.
UM, SO GIVEN THAT IT'S TAKING UP SPACE, IT'S NOT DOING ANYTHING FOR THE COMMUNITY.
UM, IT'S NOT REVENUE PRODUCING, IT'S NOT CULTIVATING JOBS OR COMMERCE.
THERE'S REALLY NO REASON FOR IT TO BE R SIX.
I DO THINK IT'S WORTH NOTING THE OWNERS.
MY PARENTS HAVE PAID HUNDREDS AND THOUSANDS IN PROPERTY TAXES FOR NON-USABLE SPACE.
JUST SHY OF 40,000 THIS YEAR ALONE, WHICH MEANS I WORK TWO JOBS.
THEY WORK SEVEN DAYS A WEEK JUST SO WE CAN TRY TO DO SOMETHING MEANINGFUL FOR THE COMMUNITY.
UM, IT'S NOT USABLE AND WE WANNA CHANGE THAT.
THAT'S WHY I'M STANDING HERE TODAY.
MY PARENTS WOULD NEVER DO THIS OR BRAG ON THEMSELVES, BUT AS THEIR KID, I'M GONNA DO IT.
THEY HAVE BEEN OPERATIONAL IN DISTRICT SIX, AND I PUT THAT IN QUOTES SINCE THE EARLY EIGHTIES BECAUSE THIS WAS BEFORE IT WAS ANNEXED BY THE CITY.
WE FACED A LOT OF OPPOSITION FROM NEIGHBORHOODS OUTSIDE OF THE 200 FEET RADIUS, BUT THEY'VE BEEN THERE SINCE THE EIGHTIES.
THE THEY AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS DEVELOPED AROUND THEM.
WE ARE NOT EVER LOOKING TO BE A NUISANCE TO THE COMMUNITY.
WE WERE THERE LONG BEFORE ANY OF THAT EXISTED.
AND WE'VE TOLD, BEEN TOLD IN THESE MEETINGS THAT MR. HERRERA REFERENCED, WE'RE A NUISANCE TO THE COMMUNITY.
BUT MY PARENTS ALONE IN THEIR 40 YEARS, HAVE BUILT OVER 5,000 RESIDENTIAL HOMES.
THEY ARE THE LIFEBLOOD OF DISTRICT SIX.
THAT DISTRICT DOESN'T EXIST WITHOUT THE BLOOD, SWEAT, AND TEARS THEY PUT INTO THOSE HOMES.
LEG LIKE THE NEIGHBORHOODS YOU MIGHT'VE HEARD OF, LEGACY TRAILS, ALAMO RANCH, MISTY OAKS, NORTHWEST CROSSING, SILVER CREEK, RICH CREEK.
MANY, MANY OF THE HOMES THAT EXIST IN DISTRICT SIX, I PERSONALLY GREW UP PLAYING AROUND WHILE THEY WERE BUILDING THOSE HOMES.
THEY'VE BUILT AND CONTRIBUTED TO HOLMES HIGH SCHOOL, OUR PARISH THAT I GREW UP GOING TO PRINCE OF PEACE, THE WALMARTS, THE GAS STATIONS, OTHER BUSINESSES.
WE'VE BEEN CULTIVATING JOBS AS A COMMUNITY FOR 40 YEARS AND EMPLOYING OVER 500 PEOPLE IN THEIR TENURE.
THAT'S WHY I AM STANDING HERE.
MY DAD'S NEARING HIS SEVENTIES.
THEY DON'T WANNA WORK SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, 12 HOURS A DAY.
SO OUR AIM IS TO, OR MY AIM IS TO TAKE WHAT THEY'VE BUILT ON THESE 40 YEARS AND THE LEGACY AND SET UP THE COMMUNITY FOR THE NEXT GENERATION.
AND SO I'D LIKE TO HAVE THIS R SIX RESIDENTIAL SPACE TURNED SOMEWHERE WHERE IT CAN BE LEASEABLE TO WELCOME SMALL BUSINESSES INTO THE COMMUNITY.
I AGREE INDUSTRIAL, THE UGLINESS
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OF IT DOESN'T REALLY FIT THE LANDSCAPE ANYMORE.BUT SMALL BUSINESSES COULD HELP THE COMMUNITY THRIVE.
SO IN THE OPPOSITION, INITIALLY THE OPPOSITION WAS PUSHING FOR WHY NOT JUST OFFICE, REGULAR OFFICE SPACE, OFFICE SUITES.
SO I'M GONNA HEAR AND SAY WHY C TWO AND A, AS MR. HERRERA MENTIONED, ALL THE BUSINESSES ARE C TWO OR C THREE.
WE'RE JUST LOOKING TO FIT WHAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS.
SO MY GOAL IN THE NEXT GENERATION AND THE FUTURE OWNER OF THESE PROPERTIES IS TO TEAR DOWN AND CLEAN OUT LOTS.
EIGHT THROUGH 12, BUILD A BUSINESS PARK.
WELCOME SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS LOOKING TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY.
I'M NOT LOOKING TO OPEN SMALL BUSINESSES THERE.
I JUST WANNA HELP CREATE THE SPACE.
I THINK THE COMMUNITY WILL TELL US WHAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS BY WHO'S LOOKING TO LEASE THE SPACE.
I DON'T WANT TO BE THE DICTATOR OF THAT.
SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS WILL SAY, I LOOK AT THIS SPACE AND THINK MY BUSINESS WILL THRIVE HERE.
THE COMMUNITY WILL TELL US, I DON'T WANT TO BE THE ONE, I DON'T THINK THE OPPOSITION SHOULD BE THE ONE.
THE COMMUNITY SHOULD SPEAK VOLUMES FOR THEMSELVES.
SO WE'RE LOOKING TO PUT BUSINESS PARKS SUCH AS THIS AND THE NEXT, AND THAT'S WHY I THINK IT SHOULD BE RE REZONED PER OUR REQUEST OUTSIDE OF RESIDENTIAL USE INTO COMMERCIAL USE.
COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
UH, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? HEY, GOOD TIMING.
WE HAVE, UM, A FEW PEOPLE WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE.
THE FIRST WE HAVE IS MS. BECKY PEREZ.
AND THEN AFTER MS. PEREZ, IT'LL BE MS. WELLS.
HELLO, MY NAME IS REBECCA FLORES PERES.
I LIVE AT 1 0 2 3 OH MOUNT CROSBY IN THE MOUNTAIN VIEW ESTATE SUBDIVISION.
I'VE LIVED THERE FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS AND I AM PRESIDENT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
I REPRESENT FIVE HOAS IN THE AREA MOUNTAIN VIEW, THE GREAT NORTHWEST COMMUNITY IMPROVEMENT ASSOCIATION, THE RESERVE AT COLLIBRA CREEK, WESTOVER VALLEY, H O A AND HIDDEN MEADOWS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIA ASSOCIATION.
I WAS HERE TODAY TO SPEAK AGAINST THE PROPOSED ZONING REQUEST FOR C THREE NA.
THE LOPEZ'S AND RIVER CITY READY MIX HAVE HAD NUMEROUS VIOLATIONS AND HAVE CURRENT UNRESOLVED CITATIONS WITH THE CITY THAT HAVE MADE US WEARY IN THEIR INTENTIONS.
UH, AS WE FOUND OUT, WE WERE MADE, UH, AWARE THAT THE APPLICANTS ARTURO LOPEZ OWNERS OF RIVER CITY READY MIX AND THEIR REPRESENTATIVE BOBBY HERRERA, REQUESTED A CHANGE FROM C THREE NA TO TWO C TWO NA.
IN THE PAST, WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS AND PHONE CALLS WITH THEM TO DISCUSS THEIR C THREE NA REQUEST AND HOPE FOR MORE DISCUSSIONS WITH THIS REQUEST CHANGE FOR C TWO NA.
AT FIRST OUR DISCUSSION STARTED WITH US WANTING TO SEE OH ONE ZONING, AND THEN WE WENT TO CONSIDERING C ONE.
THEY STARTED WITH C THREE CONSIDERED OH ONE.
AND AT OUR LAST MEETING ON SATURDAY DECEMBER THE 17TH, C TWO WAS DISCUSSED, BUT THE MEETING ENDED WITH NO RESOLUTION.
TODAY WE ARE ENCOURAGED WITH THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO REDUCE THE USE DENSITY FROM C THREE TO NA TO C TWO NA.
WITH THESE CHANGES, WE HAVE HOPES OF REACHING AND AGREEMENT THAT IS GOOD FOR ALL.
WE WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THE POSSIBILITY OF A CONTINUANCE TO GIVE US SOME TIME TO DISCUSS THIS REQUEST CHANGE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND OTHER HOAS THAT WE REPRESENT.
THIS CONTINUOUS CONTINUANCE WOULD ALSO GIVE THE APPLICANT TIME TO PROVIDE US A SITE PLAN, WHICH WE HAVE NOT SEEN OR BEEN SHOWN, AND MAYBE MEAN THE C TWO N A REQUEST.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT I'VE SEEN SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, GIVEN TODAY, GIVEN TODAY.
SO WE ARE WILLING TO MEET AND CON CONTINUE DISCUSSIONS TO REACH AN AGREEMENT THAT WILL BE BEST FOR BOTH SIDES.
I BELIEVE MS. WELLS ARE YOU NEXT MR. WELLS? WHICH ONE? MS. JAN WELLS.
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WELLS.AND THEN AFTER MS. WELLS IT'LL BE MR. MICHAEL STUMP.
AND I'LL NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE LEFT THE MEETING AT 1 27.
I LIVE AT 1 0 3 0 6 MOUNT EVANS, WHICH IS A CORNER IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND SOME BIT OF MY LAND IS ADJACENT TO WHAT USED TO BE THE OLD QUARRY, WHICH IS WHERE THE CEMENT PLANT STARTED OUT.
UM, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS COMING DOWN HERE AND TESTIFYING BEFORE THESE HEARINGS FOR 24 YEARS, TRYING TO GET THESE PEOPLE TO MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE OTHER THAN BESIDE A NEIGHBORHOOD, A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
WHEN I FIRST BOUGHT THIS LAND WHERE I'M AT NOW, THEY WERE MOSTLY ON THE NORTH END OF THE LAND THAT'S ADJACENT TO MINE.
AND IT WASN'T DEAFENING LOUD THEN.
AND IT WASN'T VERY SOON AFTER WE MOVED IN.
EVERY TIME YOU WENT OUT YOU WOULD HAVE TO RUN THE WINDSHIELD WIPERS TO GET THE DUST OFF YOUR WINDSHIELD.
THIS WAS COMING OVER FROM THE CEMENT PLANT.
UM, THE FIRST TIME I REALLY STARTED GETTING INVOLVED WAS WHEN CODE COMPLIANCE SHOWED UP AT MY DOORSTEP ONE DAY AND ASKED ME IF I KNEW MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR, WHICH ONCE AGAIN IS THE OLD QUARRY.
UM, WAS STARTING A, WELL IT WASN'T A USED CAR BUSINESS.
IT WAS JUST ROW AFTER ROW AFTER ROW OF DUMPED ABANDONED CARS AND THEY WERE CALLING IT A CAR SALVAGE LOT.
THEY WERE STARTING, I MEAN THIS WITH NOBODY KNOWING ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
THE CITY DIDN'T, WELL THE CITY WHEN THEY WERE UP NOTICING COMPLAINTS FURTHER UP WHERE THE CEMENT PLANT WAS, HAPPENED TO SEE HUNDREDS OF CARS BACK THERE.
UM, THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON, LIKE I SAY, FOREVER IN A DAY.
WHEN I WAS FIGHTING THIS DILIGENTLY WITH, UM, ENRIQUE BARRERA, HE SAID THEY'RE GRANDFATHERED.
THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT 'EM.
THERE'S, THEY'RE GRANDFATHERED IN.
ONCE THEY QUIT DOING BUSINESS, THEN FOR A YEAR YOU'RE GOOD TO GO.
YOU CAN TALK ABOUT SHUTTING THEM DOWN.
THEY HAVEN'T BEEN DOING THE CEMENT PLANT, THE BATCH PLANT FOR OVER A YEAR.
THIS SHOULD NOT EVEN BE A POINT AT THIS POINT WHEN, WHEN CODE COMPLIANCE TOLD 'EM TO MOVE ALL THOSE CARS FROM BACK BY MY HOUSE, BACK BY MY PIECE OF LAND, THEY MOVED HIM UP TO THE AREA THEY'RE TRYING TO REZONE RIGHT NOW.
I MEAN, THIS WAS THEIR CAR LOT.
AND WHO'S NEXT? MS. SANDERS? AFTER MR. OR MR. STUMP? UM, IT'LL BE MS. NORMA BURT.
UH, SO DON'T START THE TIMER YET.
UM, I LIVE AT 56 20 MOUNT HELEN.
I AM THE ELECTED SECRETARY TREASURER OF THE MOUNTAIN VIEW ACRES, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
AND, UH, I'M HERE TO SPEAK TO YOU TODAY ABOUT THE LACK OF CONSISTENCY COMING OUT OF THE RECENT MEETING HELD ON SATURDAY, DECEMBER 17TH, FOUR DAYS BEFORE THIS HEARING, AFTER MEETING WITH THE OWNER, MR. MRS. LOPEZ AND HIS REPRESENTATIVE, MS. MR. HERRERA, I AM PRESENTED WITH TOO MANY INCONSISTENCIES THAT WHEN TAKEN TOGETHER FORM IN MY MIND AND IN THE MINDS OF THE OTHER REPS, THE IDEA THAT WE ARE NOT BEING PRESENTED WITH A CLEAR PICTURE OF WHAT THE OWNER IN THIS CASE HAS PLANNED FOR THE LOTS, THERE ARE TOO MANY INCONSISTENCIES, FOR EXAMPLE, RE RETAINING THE EXISTING STRUCTURE ARE STARTING FROM SCRATCH.
THE OWNER STATES THAT HE'S THINKING OF REPLACING THE RUSTING OLD STEEL CLADDING ON THE EXISTING STRUCTURE.
THE REPRESENTATIVE, MR. HERRERA STATES THAT THEY WILL BE, AND I QUOTE
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STARTING FROM SCRATCH, YOU SAW THE PRESENTATION, IT SAID THEY'RE STARTING FROM SCRATCH, BUT THAT'S NOT THE OWNER TOLD US IN THIS MEETING ON SATURDAY.SO I'M AMAZED AT THE LACK OF, OF CONSISTENCY WITHIN THE OWNER'S TEAM.
ANOTHER INCONSISTENCY COMMON THROUGHOUT THE MEETING WAS THAT A RETIREMENT VERSUS CONTINUING OPERATIONS OF THE BATCH PLANT ACROSS THE STREET.
THERE'S A REASON I BRING THAT UP AND WE'LL TALK, I'LL SPEAK TO THAT AT THE END.
THEY STATED A GOAL IS TO STOP WORKING AND LIVE OFF THE RENTAL INCOME FROM THE LOTS IN QUESTION.
BUT THEY REPEATEDLY SPOKE OF MOVING THE BATCH PLANT TO THE CITY OF HE LOTUS AND SETTING UP OPERATIONS THERE THAT THEY HAVE ALREADY APPLIED FOR THE NECESSARY PERMITS.
THERE IS INCONSISTENCY IN THEIR STATEMENTS OPERATING A BUSINESS IN HE LOTUS OR SAN ANTONIO IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THEIR STATED GOAL OF RETIRING ON RENTAL REVENUE.
THEN THERE'S THE LACK OF SITE PLANS OPERATING A BUSINESS IN HELLO OR SAN ANTONIO IS NOT CONSISTENT.
WE WERE TOLD AT THE MEETING THAT THEY HAVE AN ARCHITECT AND SITE PLANS DRAWN UP FOR THE LOTS IN QUESTION, YET THEY FAILED TO COME TO THE ONE HOUR MEETING WITH ANYTHING TO SHOW US.
THIS IS VERY INCONSISTENT FOR US.
ALL BUSINESS ENTITIES THAT HAVE WORKED WITH US IN THE, IN THE PAST HAVE PRODUCED A SITE PLAN.
SO THE LACK OF SHOWING US SITE PLANS, TELLING US THEY WERE, THEY WILL RENOVATE STRUCTURES, BUT THEN TELLING US THAT THEY WILL START FROM SCRATCH AND TELLING US THEY WANT TO RETIRE, BUT THAT THEY WANT TO MOVE OPERATIONS TO, TO HE LOTUS RAISES RED FLAGS.
AND FINALLY THEY TELL US THAT IT IS IN THEIR LEGAL RIGHTS TO MOVE THE PLANT ACROSS THE STREET TO THE LOTS THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING.
SO I, I ASKED THE COMMISSION TO GRANT A CONTINUANCE SO THAT BOTH PARTIES CAN WORK OUT AN ACCEPTABLE PLAN.
ALRIGHT, MS. BURT, IS THAT WHAT I HEARD? ALRIGHT.
SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO GIVE MY TALK TO MS. BECKY PETTI.
I'M SORRY MS. PETTIS, IF THAT WAS GONNA HAPPEN.
IT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN BEFORE YOU SPOKE.
I SHOULD HAVE REMINDED YOU ALL OF THAT, BUT MS. FLOYD IS TAKEN.
WE SPECIFICALLY DID AN ORDER FOR THAT REASON.
OH, WELL IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS, I'M SURE THEY'LL CALL YOU UP TO ASK YOU ABOUT IT.
ANYONE ELSE? MS. SANDERS? UM, WE HAVE MS. ELIZABETH LOPEZ AND THEN MR. ARTURO LOPEZ SIGNED UP TO SPEAK AS WELL.
I MEAN, THEY HAVE AROUND, I MEAN, I DON'T SEE WHY NOW.
MS. LOPEZ ARE, ARE YOU GONNA BE TAKING YOUR HUSBAND'S TIME AS WELL OR JUST YOURS? AS A MATTER OF FACT, UH, MY NAME'S ELIZABETH LOPEZ.
I AM GOING TO ALLOW MY TIME TO MY DAUGHTER BRITTANY LOPEZ.
SHE'S GONNA HAVE, SHE'S ALREADY SPOKEN AS THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE ALONG WITH MR. RA.
SO SHE'LL HAVE ANOTHER THREE MINUTES, OR MR. RA WILL HAVE ANOTHER THREE MINUTES TO REBUT.
UM, BUT BECAUSE SHE'S ALREADY SPOKEN AND SHE'LL BE UP HERE, I PRESUME WITH MR. RA FOR QUESTIONS.
UH, WE'RE NOT GONNA GIVE HER THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME.
MR. LOPEZ, I MEAN, IF YOU WANNA SPEAK MS. LOPEZ, YOU'RE WELCOME TO DO SO ON YOUR OWN BEHALF.
SORRY, JUST TO BE CLEAR, I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR CLARIFYING THAT.
UH, I LIKE TO CLARIFY A FEW OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE EARLIER BY THE OPPOSITION.
UH, OBVIOUSLY THERE WERE SOME MISUNDERSTANDINGS ON SATURDAY.
UH, WE NEVER, WELL, OUR PLAN IS NEVER TO MOVE THE BATCH PLANT TO THESE, UH, PROPERTIES THAT WE ARE, UH, ASKING TO REZONE.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, AND TO MY UNDERSTANDING, RIVER CITY IS NOT, UH, THIS HEARING IS NOT FOR RIVER CITY READY MIX.
UH, AND ALSO AS FAR AS WHAT THE PLANS ARE FOR THESE PROPERTIES, AS MY DAUGHTER MENTIONED, BRITTANY LOPEZ, WE, WE ARE NOT, UH, IT, IT IS NOT US THAT WILL DETECT WHAT KIND OF PROPERTIES OR WHAT KIND OF BUSINESSES ARE GOING TO BE THERE.
AS MY DAUGHTER MENTIONED, WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW THAT HOPEFULLY IF THESE PROPERTIES ARE REZONED TO HOW THE COMMUNITY DICTATE WHAT KIND OF BUSINESSES WE'RE GONNA HAVE.
OUR OUR GOAL IS NOT TO RUN THESE OPERATIONS OR THESE BUSINESSES.
OUR GOAL IS TO PROVIDE THE PROPERTIES AND LEASE THESE PROPERTIES AND THE COMMUNITY WILL DECIDE WHAT KIND OF BUSINESSES ARE GOING TO BE THERE THAT ARE COMPARABLE TO WHAT IS ALREADY IN THE AREA.
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UH, AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE MENTIONED ON SATURDAY WHEN WE MET.AND, UH, SO I WANTED TO MAKE THOSE CLARIFICATION.
AS FAR AS WHAT ONE OF THE, I DON'T REMEMBER THE NAMES, I'M REALLY BAD WITH NAMES MENTIONING ABOUT THE AUTOS AND CARS.
THOSE PROPERTIES WERE NOT OURS.
SEVERAL OF THE PROPERTIES ON THE EASTERLING AREA OR BACK IN THE AREA THAT, UH, THE, UH, SHE MENTIONED OR OWNED WERE OWNED AT THE TIME BY SOMEONE ELSE, NOT US.
IN FACT, AT ONE POINT THERE WERE FOUR OWNERS IN THOSE PROPERTIES, SO THEY WERE NOT ALL OUR PROPERTIES.
UH, BUT FOR SOME REASON WE, UM, UNFORTUNATELY, UH, SINCE WE HAVE MOST OF, UH, SEVERAL PROPERTIES THERE, UH, IT, WE GET BLAMED FOR ANY NUISANCE.
AND, AND SO FAR, IN FACT ALSO, UH, ME, MYSELF HAVE CALLED THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN, UH, PEOPLE DUMPING FURNITURE, TIRES AND ALL THAT.
AND WHEN WE APPROACH THESE PEOPLE, THEY SAY, THESE ARE PUBLIC STREETS.
YOU HAVE NO, UH, YOU ARE NOT AT LIBERTY TO TELL US WHAT TO DO OR WHAT TO DUMP HERE.
AND I CALL THE POLICE, THERE'S NOTHING THEY CAN DO.
SO THERE IS A LOT OF NUISANCE AND IT'S, IT'S NOT A NICE PRETTY SIDE, BUT IT'S NOT US.
THEY ALWAYS BLAME US FOR WHATEVER REASON.
BUT I WANTED TO MAKE THOSE CLARIFICATIONS, THOSE PROPERTIES WERE OWNED BY SOMEONE ELSE AT THE TIME.
IN FACT, MR. GARCIA HAD AN AUTO REPAIR AT THE, AT ONE OF THE PROPERTIES.
AND THOSE ALL AUTOS WERE HIS, THEY WERE NOT OURS.
STEP AWAY, UH, YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE.
OH, SE I RESIDE AT 7 7 0 9 LINK SITE SAN ANTONIO.
ALRIGHT, MR. LOPEZ, ARTUR LOPEZ DECIDING ON 7 7 0 9 LINK SITES.
JUST TO CLARIFY SOME OF THE MISCONCEPTIONS AND STUFF, UH, WE'RE APPLYING THIS THROUGH, THROUGH A AND E LOPEZ CONSTRUCTION.
NO, NOTHING IN THIS ACT WE'RE IN THIS, UH, WE WANTED TO APPLY FOR THREE A AND WE HAD A MEETING AND WE WERE TOLD THAT THREE A WOULDN'T BE BACKED UP.
SO WE WENT TO TWO A, WHICH TO KIND OF HELP THE NEIGHBORS.
AND, AND THIS I, I TOOK IT TO MY DAUGHTER AND SHE MADE THIS ARRANGEMENTS AND THIS IS WHAT WE GOT.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER FUR? UH, ANY OTHER FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? NO, NO MORE.
UH, MR. RODA OR MS. LOPEZ, ONE OF YOU, THREE MINUTES OF REBUTTAL? YES, PLEASE.
I'M GONNA ATTEMPT TO PUT ALL MY THOUGHTS TOGETHER.
A LOT TO, TO TOUCH ON, BUT I'LL TRY TO BE QUICK ABOUT IT.
SO WE MENTIONED BATCH, PLANT CITATIONS, CONCRETE PLANT.
TO MY UNDERSTANDING COMMISSIONERS, THAT'S NOT THE POINT OF THIS HEARING.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REZONING LOTS EIGHT THROUGH 12.
SO WE CAN TRY TO MURKY THE WATERS AND TALK ABOUT ZONING FOR THINGS AND PROPERTIES FOR THINGS.
BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF OUR TIME HERE TODAY.
BUT TO TOUCH ON SOME OF THOSE THINGS ANYWAYS, I HEARD A LOT ABOUT INCONSISTENCIES.
MY PARENTS AND MY DAD REALLY WANTED C THREE AND A BECAUSE IT'S THE LEAST LIMITING LOGICALLY MAKES SENSE.
THEY CAME TO ME, I I, I APOLOGIZE, I COULDN'T BE IN THE MEETING.
UM, I'M ACTUALLY A COUNSELOR AND I SEE PATIENTS ON SATURDAY ALSO SERVING THE COMMUNITY OF DISTRICT SIX.
AND THEY TOLD ME WHAT CAME OF THE MEETING AND I SAID, WE'RE TRYING TO BE AGREEABLE.
THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS.
WHY DON'T WE JUST DROP TO C TWO? AND A, IT'S NOT A GESTURE OF INCONSISTENCY SO MUCH AS TRYING TO BE AS AGREEABLE AS POSSIBLE WHILE STILL SETTING UP FOR A BUSINESS THAT'S GONNA BE VIABLE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
WE DON'T WANNA CRIPPLE OURSELVES AND WELCOME VAGRANTS VANDALS BY HAVING AN EMPTY BUSINESS SPACE THAT HURTS US JUST AS MUCH AS IT HURTS THE COMMUNITY.
SO IN INCONSISTENCIES, YOU CAN SAY INCONSISTENT OR YOU CAN SAY WILLING TO LISTEN.
I WANT TO LISTEN, BUT THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH LISTENING AND AGREEING WE CAN DO WHERE IT'S NO LONGER VIABLE FOR ANY OF US
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TO TOUCH ON.SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS MENTIONED TO TRY TO MURKY THE WATER, THE BATCH PLANT AND CITATIONS MENTIONED IS CURRENTLY IN LITIGATION.
I'VE WORKED HEAVILY ON PREPARING FOR THAT LITIGATION.
AND I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, ALL OF YOU COMMISSIONERS, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT, THAT DAY IN COURT.
I'M NOT SCARED AND I'M READY FOR THE TRUTH TO BE HEARD.
I WILL BE THERE FIGHTING FOR THAT TRUTH TO TALK ABOUT MY PARENTS WANTING TO RETIRE AND TALKING ABOUT HE LOTUS.
WE ARE LOOKING TO MOVE THE BATCH PLAN, NOT BECAUSE THEY WANNA WORK FOREVER.
WE'RE UNDER THE REALIZATION THAT PEOPLE DON'T LIVE FOREVER.
MY MOM'S IN HER SIXTIES, MY DAD'S NEARING HIS SEVENTIES.
THEY ARE IN RETIREMENT AGE, BUT TO BUILD THE THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TAKES MONEY AND REVENUE.
A BATCH PLANT SETTING THAT UP CAN MAKE MONEY TO SELL.
THEY WANT TO LIVE OFF WHAT'S PASSIVE INCOME.
IT TAKES A LOT OF MONEY TO BUILD THAT THOUGH.
AND AS I'VE MENTIONED BEFORE, ALL THOSE LOTS ARE NON-REVENUE PRODUCING.
WE STILL PAY TAXES EVERY YEAR.
SO REALLY WE'RE IN THE RED THERE.
IT'S NOT TRYING TO BE INCONSISTENT JUST SO MUCH AS TRYING TO COME UP WITH A FEASIBLE PLAN.
YOUR TIMING WASN'T AS GOOD THIS TIME.
THIS IS A DISTRICT SIX CASE, UH, COMMISSIONER WHEAT TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO COMMEND THE APPLICANT'S AND THE RESIDENT ASSOCIATIONS FOR GETTING TOGETHER AND HAVING THESE DIFFICULT AND COMPLICATED CONVERSATIONS.
I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF HISTORY INVOLVED AND I WOULD URGE YOU TO FOCUS ON WHAT IS ON HAND TODAY, WHICH ARE THE LOTS ON 56, 39, AND 57, 45.
AGAIN, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONCERNS, LOTS OF HISTORY, AND I'M AFRAID THAT IF WE GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE HISTORY AND FOCUS ON HISTORY, THAT WE COULD BE LOSING SIGHT OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE TODAY.
AND
IT'S A, IT IS A DIFFICULT THING TO DO AND, AND YOU HAVE THE VISION, I BELIEVE OF WHERE YOU WANT TO TAKE THIS.
SO IF YOU COME ON UP, I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU THOUGH, READY FOR QUESTIONS.
SO AGAIN, WHAT I'M GETTING FROM YOUR PRESENTATION IS THAT YOU ARE THE VISIONARY BEHIND THIS PROJECT.
SO YOU HAVE THE DETAILS AND IT'S AMAZING, IT'S AWESOME THAT YOU HAVE A MASTER PLAN.
AND WHAT I DIDN'T GET IS DETAILS OF THAT MASTER PLAN.
AND YOU TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BUILDING, UM, UH, LEASEABLE SPACES.
DO YOU HAVE A SITE PLAN THAT THAT, THAT YOU, YOU CAN SHOW US? OR ARE YOU WORKING ON A SITE PLAN? WE HAVE A PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN, BUT IT'S BEEN ALTERED A LITTLE BIT GIVEN THAT C THREE ALLOWS FOR HIGHER THAN 35 FEET.
AND WE'VE DROPPED A C TWO A, SO THERE IS SOME ALTERATIONS THAT NEED TO GO TO THAT SITE PLAN TO FIT OUR NEW AGREEABLE THING OF C TWO AND A, BUT IT IS IN THE WORKS.
AND AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE BUILDING LEASEABLE SPACES, SO RIGHT NOW YOU DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT BUSINESSES WILL GO IN THERE, BUT YOU'RE GONNA BUILD THESE LEASEABLE SPACES AND ADVERTISE THAT AND MAKE AND OFFER THEM FOR LEASE.
SO AT SOME POINT YOU'RE GONNA NEED A SITE PLAN.
AND I THINK WE HEARD FROM THE, UH, RESIDENTS HERE IS CAN WE SEE THE SITE PLAN? RIGHT.
SO AGAIN, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO HAVE THAT SITE PLAN ALREADY SOON.
SO WE CAN WORK TO HAVE A SITE PLAN SOON.
I MEAN, IT HELPS TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE TRYING EXACTLY TO BUILD A SITE PLAN FOR TO GET THAT GOING IN, IN THE MOST ACCURATE KIND OF WAY WHEN IT'S, THEY'RE PUSHING REGULAR BUSINESS SUITE OFFICE SPACE.
THAT SITE PLAN LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING C THREE AND A LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING ELSE, C TWO AND A LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING ELSE.
SO WE'RE KIND OF PIGEONHOLED TO NOT REALLY KNOW WHAT TO CREATE A SITE PLAN FOR.
THAT ALSO TAKES TIME AND RESOURCES.
WE CAN'T MAKE ONE FOR EVERYTHING.
WE, IF WE CAN NARROW DOWN WHAT WE CAN BE ZONED AS I CAN PUT A LOT OF TIME AND ENERGY INTO CREATING ONE
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THAT FITS THOSE PARAMETERS, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, HAVING CONVERSATION WITH, UH, YOUR REPRESENTATIVE, UH, MR. HERRERA, IT WASN'T UNTIL VERY RECENTLY THAT HE SAID, OKAY, I THINK WE'RE GONNA GO TO C TWO AND A, WHICH AGAIN, I I THINK FROM A NEGOTIATING PERSPECTIVE, I THINK YOU GUYS ARE DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB OF TRYING TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE CONCERNS.
BUT I THINK ALSO TOO THAT, YOU KNOW, HAD WE HAD, HAD THEY HAD A LITTLE MORE TIME TO UNDERSTAND AND SEE YOUR VISION, THAT I THINK THEY COULD HAVE HAD A BETTER TIME TO REACT AND COME UP WITH, YOU KNOW, THEIR FEEDBACK TO YOU.
AND IF WE CAN, IF I CAN MAKE A BROAD STATEMENT TO THE COMMISSIONERS AND EVERYONE IN THE AUDIENCE, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO SET UP MEETINGS, BUT WHEN IT'S ON YOUR TIME, YOUR TURF ONLY, I, I'M NOT IN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY BY TRADE, I WORK AS A MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL.
LIKE I, I NEED FLEXIBILITY TO DO THESE THINGS.
IF IT'S ONLY HERE, ONLY THERE, YOU'RE REALLY LIMITING OUR ABILITY TO DO SOME OF THESE THINGS AND HAVE THE CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE NECESSARY TO REACH THESE THINGS.
AND I, I GET WANTING THE BACKING OF THE COMMUNITY, BUT THERE IS A LOT OF MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY AND I BELIEVE WE SENT IN A HUNDRED SIGNATURES OF PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY.
OBVIOUSLY NOT EVERYONE CAN BE HERE.
WE WORK NINE TO FIVE, LIFE'S EXPENSIVE, BUT WE CAN ONLY BE SO AGREEABLE TO A CERTAIN FACTION OF THE COMMUNITY WHILE STILL MAINTAINING THE INTEGRITY OF WHAT WE NEED TO DO AND THINGS THAT ARE ACTUALLY DOLLAR AND CENT FEASIBLE.
YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S PRESSED FOR TIME.
SO, UM, THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE FOR YOU RIGHT NOW.
UM, OKAY, SO QUESTION FOR THE, UH, FOR BECKY, CAN YOU COME UP PLEASE? DO YOU NEED MY NAME AND ADDRESS AGAIN? SO BECKY, HELP ME UNDERSTAND, I, I KNOW THAT WE'RE ONLY FOCUSING ON THESE TWO LOTS TODAY, BUT I'VE HEARD THE RESIDENTS BRING UP THE, UH, BATCH BATCHING PLAN OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
CAN YOU BRIEFLY, BRIEFLY HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY YOU GUYS ARE BRINGING THAT UP? SURE.
BACK IN 2019, THE, UH, LOPEZS HAD A DIFFERENT ATTORNEY THAN WHAT THEY HAVE NOW.
AND HE PRESENTED TO US A PLAN, A ZONING PLAN.
UH, AND I COULD BE OFF, IT COULD BE 20, BUT I I'M, I'M GONNA SAY 19 FOR NOW, UH, THAT INCLUDED THE WEST SIDE AND THE EAST SIDE OF EASTERLY TO BE C THREE.
AND THAT WAS OKAY FOR THEM TO DO THAT.
BUT WHEN THEY RES UH, APPLIED, THEY LEFT OUT THE EAST SIDE OF EASTERLY.
SO IN OUR MINDS, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO TO THE EAST SIDE WHEN FIRST THEY HAD A PLAN TO USE IT, YOU KNOW, TO BE MAKE IT ALL TOGETHER.
THE BATCHING PLANT IS ON THE EAST SIDE.
WE'RE VERY, THAT'S A VERY SENSITIVE TOPIC WITH THE CITY, WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE IT'S A BATCHING PLANT THAT IS VERY CLOSE TO THE APARTMENTS, TO THE SCHOOL.
AND IT'S BECAUSE OF ALL OF OTHER INCONSISTENCIES THAT WEREN'T TALKED ABOUT TODAY.
IT MAKES US A LITTLE WEARY, A LITTLE CAUTIOUS IN REGARDS TO WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE FOR THOSE TWO LOTS.
THE LOPEZS ALSO OWN A LOT THAT'S ACROSS CULEBRA CREEK AND THAT'S ADJACENT TO OUR SUBDIVISION WHEN, UM, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR PLANS, THAT'S ZONE R SIX.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE FOR THAT PROPERTY.
SO THEY REALLY, BUT, BUT THEY'RE USING IT NOW.
AND I'M GOING TO TENDERLY SAY ILLEGALLY BECAUSE THEY'RE PARKING, CEMENT TRUCKS DOING A BUILDING THAT THEY SHOULDN'T BE DOING, UM, EXCAVATING DIGGING, ALL SORTS OF THINGS.
AND YOU CAN CHECK WITH THE CITY FOR THE, THE COMPLAINTS.
AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT, BUT BECAUSE OF ALL OF THIS, IT MAKES US VERY WEARY TO SEE WHY ARE THEY ONLY ASKING FOR ONE SIDE AND IF THEY STARTED WITH PLANS FOR C THREE, COULD THAT PROPERTY WOULD OR COULD HAVE, WOULD'VE BEEN USED ALSO FOR THAT, UH, BATCHING PLAN AREA.
SO, SO AGAIN, I, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR RIGHT NOW IS C TWO AND A YES.
AND, AND WE'RE WILLING TO, TO MEET WITH THEM AND DISCUSS IT FURTHER BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF THAT CAME UP TODAY THAT WE WERE UNAWARE
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OF, PLUS THE FACT THAT WOW, A SITE PLAN WOULD BE OFTEN AND I OFF AWESOME.BUT I, AND I KNOW YOU CAN'T TELL ME PRECISELY WHAT IT'S GONNA BE LIKE, BUT YOU'VE SEEN BUILDINGS WHERE THEY DO THE SHELL AND THEN THEY SAY, WE'RE GONNA DIVIDE IT UP THIS WAY.
AND, AND AT LEAST THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING BECAUSE THAT AREA IS PRETTY RUSTIC.
I MEAN IT'S PRETTY, I MEAN THE PICTURES THEY SHOWED YOU WERE PRETTY NICE, BUT IF YOU DRIVE DOWN THE STREET, IT, YOU KNOW, IT, IT NEEDS HELP, IT NEEDS SOME TYPE OF IMPROVEMENT AND WE'RE FOR THAT.
SO MR. CHAIR, I, FROM WHAT WE'RE HEARING TODAY IS THAT I THINK BOTH THE APPLICANT AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS WANT TO WORK TOGETHER, BUT FOR WHATEVER REASON, WHETHER IT BE TIME OR SCHEDULE, THEY JUST CAN'T SEEM TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
AND REALLY, IN MY OPINION, MR. CHAIR, IS THAT, UM, HAVING MS. LOPEZ, UH, BRITTANY LOPEZ AT THESE MEETINGS, IT'S CRITICAL BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU'VE HEARD HER SAY IT, YOU'VE HEARD HER PARENTS SAY IT.
SHE'S THE ONE, SHE'S THE VISIONARY BEHIND THIS PROJECT.
AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER TO THE APPLICANT'S HAND, TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS IS THAT LET ME WORK WITH THE DISTRICT SIX OFFICE TO FACILITATE A LOCATION AND TIME THAT'S AMENABLE TO ALL PARTIES SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THIS CONVERSATION SO THAT WE CAN SEE AND GET THE INFORMATION THAT WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR, LIKE A SITE PLAN AND GET A CLEAR VISION OF WHAT THE APPLICANT WISHES TO DO WITH THAT PROPERTY.
AND WHAT I'M SEEING ALSO, MR. CHAIR, IS THAT WE ARE SO CLOSE TO COMING TO A POINT WHERE ALL PARTIES CAN BE AGREEABLE TO IT.
YOU MAY NOT BE A HUNDRED PERCENT HAPPY WITH IT, BUT YOU WON'T BE SO DISPLEASED.
SO AGAIN, UM, I'M GONNA OPEN IT UP FOR THE REST OF MY COMMISSIONERS BEFORE I MAKE A MOTION.
COMMISSIONER SIPES, THIS IS A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
UM, THE, I'M I'M LOOKING AT AN, UH, ANNEXATION MAP THAT'S ON, UH, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO'S WEBSITE.
IT APPEARS THAT THIS AREA WAS ANNEXED IN THE NINETIES.
IS THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? AND THEN THAT LEADS TO, UM, BY, IF, IF, IF THIS IS REZONED, WOULD ANY OF THE ACTIVITIES AS A CONSTRUCTION YARD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT STILL BE ALLOWED OR WOULD ON THE, ON THE PROPERTY? I MEAN RIGHT NOW OBVI IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S GRANDFATHERED IN, BUT IF THEY CHANGE IT TO, IF THEY CHANGE THE ZONING, WOULD ANY OF THOSE GRANDFATHERING GO AWAY? OKAY, SO YOUR FIRST QUESTION WAS WHEN WAS IT ANNEXED? IT WAS ANNEXED IN DECEMBER OF 1984 WHEN IT WAS TEMPORARY R ONE, WHICH CONVERTED TO THE CURRENT R SIX.
UM, TO ANSWER YOUR OTHER QUESTION, UH, THE PROPERTIES NOT IN QUESTION, WHICH ARE WHERE THE BATCH PLANT IS, UM, ARE CURRENTLY IN A C THREE.
IF THEY EXPAND THEIR, IF THEY HAVE A NON-CONFORMING USE AND THEY EXPAND THEIR USE, THEN THEY USE, THEY LOSE THE NON-CONFORMING RIGHTS.
UM, BUT FOR THIS PROPERTY, IT SIMPLY, UH, REQUEST TO REONE FROM R SIX TO C TWO AND A AND THAT IS ALSO, UH, TO MATCH THE CURRENT LAND USE, WHICH WAS RECENTLY DONE, UM, IN APRIL OF 2022 TO, UH, URBAN MIXED USE, WHICH ONLY GOES AS HIGH AS C TWO.
AND, UM, SINCE IT'S KIND OF NOT A CONDITIONAL, WE'RE NOT DOING A CONDITIONAL USE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, A SITE PLAN'S NOT NECESSARILY REQUIRED? THAT'S CORRECT.
I THINK THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS.
I'M GONNA HAVE TO EXCUSE MYSELF FOR A SECOND, SO I'M GONNA ASK MY QUESTIONS AND THEN WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO COMMISSIONERS ON THE LEFT.
SO RIGHT NOW IF WE LOOK AT THE MAP THAT'S CURRENTLY ON THE SCREEN, UM, THIS PROPERTY, IF IT'S, IF REZONINGS APPROVED, WE'LL BE C TWO AND A AND WILL BE ENTIRELY SURROUNDED BY C THREE AND A OR SIMILAR COMMERCIAL USES EXCEPT FOR MAYBE ACROSS THE STREET, WHICH LOOKS LIKE IT'S STILL R SIX.
UM, I THINK, I DON'T WANT TO PUT ANY WORDS INTO COMMISSIONER HU'S MOUTH, BUT HE'S GONNA MOVE FOR A CONTINUANCE.
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IF WE CONTINUE THIS TO THE NEXT HEARING ON JANUARY 17TH, WHEN WOULD IT GO TO CITY COUNCIL? NOT UNTIL THE SECOND MEETING IN FEBRUARY.AND IF IT WERE TO GO FORWARD TODAY, WHEN WOULD IT GO TO CITY COUNCIL? IT'S STILL THE SAME, STILL THE SAME, UH, FIRST MEETING IN FEBRUARY, FIRST MEETING IN FEBRUARY.
SO EITHER WAY, CONTINUANCE OR NOT, THEY'RE ENDING UP AT CITY COUNCIL, WHICH IS THE BODY IN FEBRUARY THAT WE RECOMMEND TO, UM, ON THE SAME DATE? CORRECT.
WELL, NOT THE SAME EXACT DATE, BUT EITHER THE BEGINNING OF THE MONTH OR TWO WEEKS LATER.
UH, HE ASKED MY QUESTION ABOUT THE SITE PLAN AND TO BE CLEAR, A BATCH PLANT WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED UNDER C TWO AND A.
FINALLY, UM, THIS MATTER WAS BEFORE PLANNING LAST WEEK? CORRECT.
WHAT HAPPENED AT THAT MEETING? THE PLAN AMENDMENT WAS RECOMMENDED FOR DENIAL.
BUT GIVEN THE AMENDMENT TODAY, THE C TWO AND A IS A PLAN AMENDMENT REQUIRED, IT WILL NOT BE REQUIRED.
THANK IF IT, IF IT WAS AMENDED AND PASSES AND AS C TWO AND A.
I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE FOR THE RECORD, UH, AT 1 41, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE RETURNED AND I'M GOING TO EXCUSE MYSELF AT 2 0 1 AND HAND IT OVER TO COMMISSIONER SIPES.
UM, ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.
MARK, YOU HAVE A QUESTION? NO PROMPTING
UM, YOU MENTIONED THERE IS NOT A REQUIREMENT OR A SITE PLAN RIGHT NOW A SITE PLAN IS REQUIRED BY THE TIME CITY COUNCIL OR NO? NO SIR.
THIS IS A STRAIGHT, UM, BASE ZONING RECOMMENDATION OF C TWO AND A IF IT'S NOT A CONDITIONAL USE OR A SPECIFIC USE.
A A A SITE PLAN AT THIS POINT IS JUST FOR THE COURTESY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO IF WE APPROVE THIS TODAY, THEY GOT BASICALLY THE NEIGHBORS AND THE APPLICANT HAVE MORE THAN 45 DAYS TO MEET ANYWAY BEFORE FEBRUARY.
I MEAN, THEY, THEY HAVE PLENTY OF TIME AND MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THEY MEET AT THE DISTRICT SIX, UH, OFFICE CITY COUNCIL OFFICES IS IS A GREAT PLACE.
SO, UM, I I WOULD PROBABLY VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS TODAY 'CAUSE THEY HAVE MORE THAN 40 DAYS TO WORK ALL THE SOLUTIONS.
UH,
NONE ON MY, ANY UNDER MY RIGHT? NONE.
BACK TO COMMISSIONER WEI FOR POSSIBLE MOTION.
SO AGAIN, AFTER HEARING YOUR PRESENTATIONS, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, I, I REALLY BELIEVE YOU ARE SO CLOSE TO COMING TO SOMETHING THAT'S AGREEABLE TO ALL PARTIES.
AND WITH THAT I'M GONNA MOVE TO CONTINUE THIS CASE TO 17 JANUARY, 2003.
DURING THAT TIME, I WILL BE AVAILABLE TO FACILITATE A MEETING BETWEEN THE APPLICANT AND THE H O A REPRESENTATIVES.
SO AGAIN, I MOVE TO CONTINUE THIS CASE TO 17 JANUARY, 2003 20 20 23.
THERE IS A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WE FOR A CONTINUANCE.
ALRIGHT, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON.
ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER'S? MY RIGHT.
LOOKS LIKE COMMISSIONER WHITE.
UM, I, I'D BE IN FAVOR OF, UM, APPROVING THIS TODAY.
UM, THAT SAID, IT LOOKS LIKE NO MATTER WHAT WE DO TODAY, THIS ISN'T GONNA AFFECT WHEN THIS GOES BEFORE CITY COUNCIL.
UM, IT IS A BIT OF AN INCONVENIENCE FOR YOU ALL TO HAVE TO COME BACK HERE AGAIN.
HOWEVER, UM, I WILL FOLLOW THE GUIDANCE OF COMMISSIONER WE WHOSE DISTRICT THIS IS IN AND UM, I'LL VOTE IN FAVOR OF THE CONTINUANCE.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? UH, COMMISSIONER WATSON? UH, I JUST WANNA COMMENT ON WHY I, UM, SECONDED THIS AND I'M SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
UM, WHILE THERE ISN'T A REQUIREMENT FOR A SITE PLAN, CONSIDERING THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF ENGAGEMENT BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS IN THE AREA AND THE APPLICANT AND GOOD FAITH ON ON BOTH PARTIES, UM, I DO DO THINK WE GET BETTER OUTCOMES WHEN WE ENABLE, UH, OPPORTUNITIES TO BUILD GOODWILL AND COME TO AN AGREEABLE, UH, LAND USE FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED.
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THAT OF COURSE CAN HELP FUTURE PROJECTS IN THE AREA AND, AND FACILITATE POSITIVE DEVELOPMENT FOR OUR COMMUNITY.SO, UM, FOR THAT REASON, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING IT'S NOT GOING TO IMPACT THE COUNCIL DATE THAT MUCH, I'M SUPPORTING THE MOTION AND I UH, COMMEND MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS WHO ARE SUPPORTING THE MOTION, UM, IN DEFERENCE TO THE, THE UH, COMMISSIONER FROM THE DISTRICT WHO KNOWS THE COMMUNITY BEST.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? SEEING NONE.
MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL BY COM OR SORRY, MOTION IS FOR A CONTINUANCE.
WE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON.
UM, I BELIEVE WE ARE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 10.
ANN BEA'S ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER 10 IS LOCATED AT 1 6 8 6 RIGSBY AVENUE AND IS A PROPOSAL TO GO FROM C R SIX TO C TWO AND A WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
THERE WERE 30 TOTAL NOTICES THAT WITH ZERO RETURN IN FAVOR, ZERO IN OPPOSITION AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM PASADENA HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR SOUTHEAST SIDE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION STAFF DOES FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
THE CURRENT R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
UM, GIVEN THE PROXIMITY OF SINGLE FAMILY ZONING TO THE EAST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, THE PROPOSED C TWO AND A COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT IS NOT THE MOST APPROPRIATE.
ZONING STAFF RECOMMENDS AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF C ONE CD LIGHT COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR AUTO GLASS TINTING.
THE CONDITIONAL USE WILL PERMIT THE PROPOSED LAND USE WHILE HOLDING THE DEVELOP THE DEVELOPMENT TO A PRESCRIBED SITE PLAN WITH ANY NECESSARY CONDITIONS.
ADDITIONALLY, THE USES PERMITTED WILL BE RESTRICTED TO LIGHT COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES WHILE ALSO LIMITING THE BUILDINGS CONSTRUCTED ON THE PROPERTY TO 5,000 SQUARE FEET.
THE ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION ALSO MAKES MORE SENSE IN TERMS OF THE SIZE OF THE LOT, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 7,700 SQUARE FEET.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL WITH AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION FOR C ONE CD LIKE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR AUTO GLASS TENTING.
THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND I DO BELIEVE THEY WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THE REQUEST.
IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE.
HI, UM, MY NAME IS HER GERALDO GOMEZ AND UM, I'M THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, I LIVE AT FOUR 19 ROSE HILL DRIVE.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND TO THE REQUEST OF THE C ONE C D UH, COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR AUTO GLASS 10, WHICH IS WHAT I DO FOR A LIVING.
UM, AND I'M REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE ON THE CASE FOR THE NE NEXT MEETING.
HE'LL HAVE TO CONTINUE IT BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH HE'S AMENDING, HE NEEDS A SITE PLAN.
UM, THIS IS A DISTRICT THREE CASE, SO TO COMMISSIONER FUENTES FOR QUESTIONS AND OH, CAN WE NOTE THAT, UM, CHAIR BUSANTE RETURNED TWO 10.
UM, NO, THE NO QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME.
UM, JUST PASS IT ON TO THE REST OF THE COMMISSION.
QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT COMMISSION ON MY LEFT.
I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO CONTINUE TO THE NEXT MEETING.
SECOND, I DIDN'T EVEN GET TO ASK.
THERE IS A MOTION FOR A CONTINGENCE TO THE JANUARY 17TH MEETING BY, UH, COMMISSIONER FUENTES.
WE ANY COMMENT? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.
COMMISSIONER LEGIA HOLLAND? YES.
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ITEM PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE.ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSIONER SIPES.
ALRIGHT, WE ARE NOW GONNA MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 11.
WE'RE GONNA, THIS IS DISTRICT TWO.
MY NAME'S ELIZABETH STEWART, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER 11 IS LOCATED AT 40 45 EAST SOUTH CROSS BOULEVARD GOING FROM OH TWO TO C TWO WITH ALL OVERLAY STAYING THE SAME.
THERE WERE 20 NOTICES SENT OUT.
ZERO IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED AND NO RESPONSE FROM PEKIN VALLEY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
THE EXISTING O TWO HIGH-RISE OFFICE DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE REQUESTED C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS ALSO AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE C TWO ALLOWS MORE COMMERCIAL USES AT A LOWER SCALE INTENSITY CITY THAN THE NEIGHBORING C THREE R OR CURRENT O TWO.
THE REQUEST DECREASES THE ALLOWED BUILDING HEIGHT ON A PROPERTY ABUTTING RESIDENTIAL ZONING TO THE NORTH.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON SOUTH CROSS BOULEVARD CORRIDOR, WHICH IS LARGELY DEVELOPED COMMERCIALLY.
THUS THE REQUEST IS IN LINE WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.
STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT SHOULD BE PRESENT.
AS THE APPLICANT OR THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE PRESENT SIR, PLEASE COME UP, TELL US YOUR NAME, TELL US YOUR ADDRESS, AND TELL US WHY YOU'RE SEEKING THIS REZONING APPLICATION.
MY ADDRESS IS 1 9 5 11 CREST ALTO.
SO, UM, I OCCUPY THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY THERE AND I OPERATE A PROSTHETIC FACILITY FOR PATIENTS THAT NEED LIMBS.
I HAVE A VERY LARGE SPACE THAT'S BEING, UM, IT'S NOT BEING UTILIZED.
SO MY THOUGHT IS I WOULD LIKE TO BUILD A, UH, STRIP CENTER TO BRING IN MORE BUSINESS ACTIVITY NEXT TO ME AS AN INVESTMENT.
AND, UM, I'M A LITTLE SHOCKED.
THE AREA NEEDS SOME REVITALIZATION AND I JUST WANTED TO GO THE APPROPRIATE ROUTE AND GET THE CORRECT ZONING AND THIS IS WHAT WAS RECOMMENDED TO ME AND THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.
UH, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? YES.
WE HAVE A MISS HARRIET KELLY HERE TO SPEAK.
KELLY, YOU HAVE SIX MINUTES, SIR.
THE OFFICE IS LOCATED AT 4 1 1 5 EAST SOUTH CROSS.
UH, I'VE BEEN A PRIVATE PRACTITIONER, OBSTETRICIAN AND GYNECOLOGIST IN THE AREA FOR 44 YEARS.
UH, MY DAUGHTER JOINED ME APPROXIMATELY 20 YEARS AGO IN THE LEGACY, AS THE LOPEZ HAS SAID, HAS BEEN CONTINUED BY HER.
UM, UH, MY OFFICE THERE, UH, NEXT TO THE LAND IN QUESTION, UH, HAS BEEN, I'VE BEEN THERE SINCE 1984.
THE BUILDING HAS BEEN THERE SINCE 1984.
THE STRIP, THE, THE AREA OF THAT LAND IS COM COMPLETELY OCCUPIED BY OFFICE, UH, BUILDINGS AND, UH, UM, UH, THE LOT BETWEEN, BETWEEN MY BUILDING AND ANOTHER BUILDING I PURCHASED.
SO WITH THE HOPES OF MY DAUGHTER EXPANDING THAT ONE DAY TO FACILITATE BETTER CARE FOR THE EAST SIDE PART OF TOWN, I THINK THAT, UH, UH, MY FEELINGS, UH, CONCERNING IS THAT TO BRING US WHAT THE STRIP CENTER, WHAT THEY WANNA BRING IN THAT AREA IS COMPLETELY, UH, IS COMPLETELY INCONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S BEEN THERE FOR FOREVER.
THE WHOLE AREA IS COMPLETELY NOTHING BUT MEDICAL BUILDINGS.
AND, UM, I, I SPEAK DR I SPOKE TO DR.
GLENN MCIS, WHO HAS A BUILDING THERE WHO WASN'T ABLE TO COME, BUT HE TOLD ME HE HAD SENT IN A PROTEST, UH, UH, IN THE SAME VEIN THAT I'M SPEAKING, UH, SAYING THAT WE DIDN'T NEED THAT.
HE HAS OLDER PATIENTS THAT TAKE TIME TO GET IN THE CARS.
I HAVE PREGNANT LADIES COME TO THE CAR, TAKE TIME.
THIS WILL INCREASE THE, THE, THE TRAFFIC IN OUR AREAS.
THE CONVENIENT THING ABOUT BEING IN THE AREA WHERE WE ARE.
UH, THE PATIENTS CAN WALK RIGHT DIRECTLY FROM OUR CAR RIGHT TO THE, TO THE OFFICE, WHICH IS A, IF YOU, IF YOU EVEN COMING HERE TODAY WALK, IT TOOK FOREVER TO WALK.
OLDER PERSON LIKE ME WALKING AS FAR AS I HAD TO WALK, TO WALK RIGHT TO WHERE YOU ARE AS A CONVENIENCE.
WELL THE, THE INCREASED TRAFFIC THAT ALL THIS WILL BRING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING THERE THAT HAVEN'T BEEN COMING THERE, WE, WE HAVE NO PROBLEMS REALLY WITH PEOPLE BREAKING IN OUR OFFICES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
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POPULATION WILL BE BROUGHT TO THE NE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE AS MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS DON'T NEED.AND, UH, WE'D LIKE TO TO KEEP IT THAT WAY, UH, UH, MEDICAL.
AND WE DON'T THINK THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A STRIP MALL BEHIND.
NO PLACE ELSE DOES THAT EXIST IN SAN ANTONIO.
AND I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO EXIST IN SOUTH, UH, WATERTOWN.
ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? NO.
UH, MR. MEYERS, YOU WILL HAVE A BRIEF REBUTTAL IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS.
I THINK WHAT I'D LIKE TO SAY TO SPEAK TO THAT IS THAT, UM, YEAH, THERE'S A GOOD POSSIBILITY THERE MAY BE OTHER MEDICAL FACILITIES THAT MAY MOVE IN THERE.
I WOULD LIKE TO GET A SYNERGISTIC BUSINESS THAT WOULD HELP ALL OF US IN THERE, BUT I DON'T WANNA LIMIT MYSELF.
IT MIGHT BE A UNIFORM COMPANY, IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.
UH, THERE, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE, UH, ZONING REQUESTS FOR, UH, LIQUOR OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT HE UNDERSTANDS THAT.
UH, THIS IS A DISTRICT THREE CASE, UH, COMMISSIONER FUENTES TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS.
I ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. MYERS.
YOU MIGHT AS WELL JUST SIT UP HERE IN THE FIRST ROW OR STAND UP HERE FOR A LITTLE BIT.
SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE PROPOSING TO, UM, GO TO C TWO TO, UH, PROMOTE A BUSINESS PARK OF SORTS OR A SENTENCE? YEAH, IT'S A REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT IS THE WAY I WOULD TERM IT.
AND MY PLAN IS TO BUILD A SHELL BUILDING AND OFFER IT FOR LEASE AND THEN I CAN MAKE DISCRETIONARY DECISIONS WHAT I, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BENEFIT MY BUSINESS, WHICH IS MEDICAL AS WELL AS HIS.
SO IT'S NOT GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, JUST, UH, 'CAUSE SINCE I OCCUPY THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR MM-HMM.
SO, UH, WOULD YOU AGREE TO A NA WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS.
SO THERE'D BE NO ALCOHOLIC SALES? YES, ABSOLUTELY.
NO FURTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER FUENTES.
ANY QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT? ANY QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? ALRIGHT, MR. MYERS, UH, GIVEN THAT YOU SAID YOU WOULD AMEND YOUR APPLICATION FROM, UH, SEEKING A REZONING OF C TWO M L O D THREE M L R TWO, UH, TO C TWO NA M L O, ALL EXISTING OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME, LET'S SAY IT THAT WAY.
UM, ARE YOU FORMALLY AMENDING YOUR REQUEST NOW TO C TWO AND A? IF I'M SAYING THAT I, I'M NOT REAL FAMILIAR.
LET, LET ME HOLD THAT SPOT THEN IF THERE'S ANY QUESTION ABOUT IT.
STAFF, WOULD YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT AN NA DESIGNATION MEANS IN THIS CONTEXT? SURE.
IT'S JUST A, A ZONING, IT GOES ALONG WITH THE ZONING BASED DISTRICT AND DOESN'T ALLOW ANY ALCOHOL SALES.
BUT YOU ARE STILL ALLOWED TO DO EVERY ACTIVITY, UM, THAT IS PERMITTED BY RIGHT.
SO THAT COULD BE OFFICE PROFESSIONAL, FOOD SERVICE, ANYTHING THAT YES, THAT FITS IN THAT CATEGORY.
SO I'M GONNA ASK THE QUESTION AGAIN.
UH, ARE YOU AMENDING YOUR REQUEST FROM C TWO WITH ALL EXISTING OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME TO C TWO AND A WITH ALL EXISTING OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME? YES, I'M AGREED TO THAT AMENDING.
ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT.
COMMISSIONER FUENTES TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE MOTION.
SO, UH, I DO AGREE, UH, THAT THE, THIS AREA DOES NEED SOME, SOME MORE BUSINESS, UH, COULD USE IT.
UH, AND WHEN PROPERLY PLANNED, WE CAN MITIGATE THOSE TR UH, THE TRAFFIC ISSUES, UM, BEEN UP AND DOWN EAST, SOUTH CROSS.
UM, I KNOW IT CAN GET RATHER CONGESTED, BUT I DO KNOW THAT WE, WE NEED MORE BUSINESS, WE NEED MORE JOBS IN THE AREA FOR SURE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE, THE, UM, MULTI-FAMILY JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THAT.
I THINK THAT THAT COULD PROVIDE SOME EMPLOYMENT.
UM, THAT BEING SAID, I MOVE TO APPROVE THIS CASE AS AMENDED TO C TWO AND A.
THERE'S A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AS AMENDED.
SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER WHITE DISCUSSION.
KELLY, THE HOPE IS IS THAT WHILE, UH, THE, IN WHILE COMMERCIAL COULD BRING CERTAIN UNDESIRABLE USES, UH, C TWO COULD WITH THE NA DESIGNATION, WITH THAT ADDITION, HOPEFULLY THOSE UNDESIRABLE USES THOSE THINGS THAT MIGHT MOST CONCERN YOU ARE ADDRESSED.
SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO USE THIS SPACE, BUT ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT YOU, YOU DID.
AND, UH, THERE'S NO APPLICATION AT THIS POINT TO DECREASE PARKING.
SO HE WILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE CODE WHEN IT COMES TO, WHEN IT COMES TO PARKING FOR THE C TWO.
AND SO THAT'S WHY I WILL SUPPORT THIS MOTION.
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MYERS.UM, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, ROLL CALL VOTE THE MOTIONS FOR APPROVAL AS AMENDED BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WHITE.
GOOD LUCK TO YOU AND YOUR DAUGHTER.
ALRIGHT, WE'RE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 13, ANN BEDA ZONING PLANNER.
ITEM NUMBER 13 IS LOCATED AT 8 1 5 BRIGHTON AVENUE AND IS A PROPOSAL TO GO FROM R FIVE TO NC WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
THERE WERE 24 TOTAL NOTICES SENT WITH 10 RESER RETURNED IN FAVOR AND ONE IN OPPOSITION.
THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET AND OUTSIDE THE 200 FOOT BOUNDARY, THERE WERE 16 RETURNED IN FAVOR AND ONE IN OPPOSITION.
STAFF DOES FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
THE PROPOSED NC NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THE PROPERTY.
WHILE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY DOES ESSENTIALLY ABUT INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 35.
IT IS THE FIRST PROPERTY OF AN ESTABLISHED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE INTRODUCTION OF ANY COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY INTO A REGI RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD CONSTITUTES COMMERCIAL ENCROACHMENT AND ALSO CREATES OPPORTUNITY FOR INCOMPATIBLE LAND USES AND INAPPROPRIATE TRANSITIONS.
THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT COULD BE ACCOMPLISHED WITH THE CD CONDITIONAL USE THAT WOULD MAINTAIN THE R FIVE BASE ZONING DISTRICT, WHILE ALSO REQUIRING A DETAILED SITE PLAN.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL WITH AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF R FIVE CD WITH RESIDENT RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR HARDWARE SALES RETAIL.
ADDITIONALLY, THIS ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION ELIMINATES THE NEED FOR A PLAN AMENDMENT, WHICH WILL PRESERVE THE INTEGRITY OF THE ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL WITH AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE PLEASE, I DO MY PRESENTATION.
ASHLEY FAIRMONT, KILLING GRIFFIN AND FAIRMONT 1 0 1 0 1 REUNION PLACE.
I I JUST HAVE A, A BRIEF PRESENTATION.
UM, SO, SO AS MENTIONED, THIS IS A REALLY TINY PIECE OF PROPERTY.
IT'S ONLY ABOUT 0.1, 5.16 ACRES OR SO.
UH, BUT IT DOES ABUT THE HIGHWAY.
UH, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN VACANT AND UH, WE'RE LOOKING TO REZONE IT TO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL TO ALLOW FOR LIKE WAS MENTIONED, A HARDWARE, A SMALL HARDWARE SALES STORE THAT'S NOT WORKING.
UH, I JUST WANNA POINT OUT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS MENTIONED THAT THIS WOULD BE CONSIDERED COMMERCIAL ENCROACHMENT.
UM, BUT AGAIN, ON A HIGHWAY I THINK THAT THAT'S WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES INSTEAD OF BUILDING A NEW HOME.
UH, THERE'S ALSO QUITE A BIT OF OTHER COMMERCIAL FRONTING ON THE HIGHWAY HERE, AS WELL AS SOME COMMERCIAL INSIDE THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
JUST DOWN BRIGHTON STREET, THERE'S A CONVENIENCE STORE AT THE INTERSECTION, UM, JUST ABOUT A BLOCK DOWN.
SO THERE'S SOME COMMERCIAL THERE.
UH, AND THEN THIS IS THE CURRENT ZONING.
UM, SO WE WOULD BE ASKING FOR THE NC AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S A LOT OF C TWO OR C THREE ACROSS THE HIGHWAY.
THE C TWO AT THE, AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PROPERTY, UM, OR BOTTOM OF THAT MAP IS USED CAR SALES.
UH, THE R FOUR ABOVE THAT IS A CHURCH.
AND THEN THAT R FIVE VACANT PIECE IS ACTUALLY OWNED BY THE CITY.
UH, THAT'S A BIT OF A DIFFERENT COLOR.
UM, THIS WAS THE COMMUNITY PLAN.
UH, WE DID GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION LAST WEEK AND THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF OUR REQUEST FOR THE PLAN AMENDMENT.
THIS ONE, UH, AND I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIALS.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA OF NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL IS TO ALLOW FOR THAT TRANSITION FROM RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL.
IT'S A PRETTY LIMITING COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
UH, IT ONLY ALLOWS FOR 3000 SQUARE FEET FOR A BUILDING.
THIS PROPERTY IS SMALL, SO IT FITS IN WITH THIS, UM, BUILDING SIZE LIMITATION.
BUILDING HEIGHT IS LIMITED TO SHORTER THAN WHAT'S ALLOWED IN SINGLE FAMILY, UH, NEXT DOOR.
IT DOES REQUIRE THAT THERE BE A FENCE BE CONSTRUCTED BETWEEN THIS PROPERTY AND THE EXISTING HOUSES NEXT DOOR AS WELL AS THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER.
AND I DO WANNA POINT OUT, LANDSCAPE BUFFERING IS TRIGGERED BY ZONINGS ADJACENT TO ZONINGS.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE.
UM, AND ALSO THE IDEA OF NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL IS TO HAVE BUSINESSES MORE FRONTING TOWARDS THE STREET.
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HAVE TO BE IN THE REAR CLOSER TO THE HOMES, UH, WITH THE BUSINESS CLOSER TO THE HIGHWAY.UM, STAFF DID MAKE AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION, BUT I, I DON'T FEEL LIKE OUR FIVE IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS SITE HERE ON THE HIGHWAY.
ALSO, IF WE DO THE CONDITIONAL USE, OFTENTIMES WHEN WE KEEP THE RESIDENTIAL AND ADD A CONDITIONAL USE, THERE'S ALREADY A HOME THERE, SO THERE'S ALREADY ANOTHER USE.
SO NOW WE'RE ASKING FOR A CONDITIONAL USE FOR JUST HARDWARE SALES AND THAT'S THE INTENT NOW.
BUT IT'S HARD TO GET A LOAN AND SAY, I WANNA BUILD A BUILDING AND THE ONLY USE I CAN EVER USE IT FOR IS HARDWARE SALES.
SO WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DOES IS ALLOWS FOR THAT HARDWARE SALES NOW, BUT IF IT DOES NEED TO TRANSITION TO SOME OTHER BUSINESS IN THE FUTURE, IT CAN, BUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL IS VERY LIMITING ON WHAT THAT BUSINESS COULD BE.
UM, SO FOR THOSE REASONS WE REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL OF THIS.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. FAIRMAN.
UH, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? THERE IS NONE.
UM, AND I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
I THINK, UH, MS. FAIRMAN ADDRESSED ALMOST ALL OF THEM.
I THINK THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS, AND THIS IS GONNA BE A TRICK QUESTION NOW APPARENTLY, WHAT IS, UH, THE SORT OF DEPTH OF THE LOT EAST TO WEST, WEST TO EAST, TOP AND BOTTOM? IF YOU HAVE SOME ESTIMATE ON THAT? I DON'T
UM, AND I'LL EXPLAIN WHY THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME LATER.
UH, BUT FOR RIGHT NOW I'M GONNA OPEN UP TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONER'S.
UM, CAN YOU PLEASE EXPAND ON ANY OUTREACH THAT YOU'VE DONE WITH SURROUNDING PROPERTIES IN 200 FEET? UH, SURE.
I DUNNO IF YOU CAN TALK TO MY, SO, SO THE OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY DID GO DOOR TO DOOR, UM, AND, AND WENT TO TALK TO THE NEIGHBORS TO SEE IF THEY WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THE REQUEST.
UM, AND SO THIS, THESE ARE THE PEOPLE HE WAS ABLE TO TALK TO AND THEY, UM, SIGNED THEIR SUPPORT FOR THE REQUEST.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WATSON.
I SAW THAT LAST WEEK AND SO I FORGOT THAT YOU ALL HAD IT.
UM, ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT QUESTIONS.
UM, I APPRECIATE THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR A SITE PLAN AND FOR THE R FIVE, UH, WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A HARDWARE STORE.
I FIND HOWEVER, MS. FERMAN'S ARGUMENTS REGARDING, UH, THE LIMITATIONS OF THAT PERSUASIVE, UH, THE REASON I ASKED ABOUT THE SORT OF LENGTH OR DEPTH OF THE LOT IS BECAUSE GIVEN THE 15 FOOT REQUIRED SETBACK BY CODE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T SEE HOW A SITE PLAN IS GOING TO GIVE US ANY GREATER PROTECTION THAN THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL THAT IS CURRENTLY REQUESTED.
UM, AND SO AS A RESULT, I THINK NEIGHBORHOOD OF COMMERCIAL IS APPROPRIATE HERE.
THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE SEEN REPEATEDLY AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO SEE ALONG 35, 37 ALL OF THESE MAJOR HIGHWAYS THAT CUT THROUGH EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS OR WERE EXPANDED TO INTRUDE ON EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND SO IN THIS CASE, I'M GOING TO MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM 13 AS SUBMITTED, UH, BECAUSE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIALS APPROPRIATE ALONG THIS ACCESS ROAD ON A MAJOR INTERSTATE HIGHWAY FOR WHICH MOST TRAFFIC NORTH TO SOUTH IN AMERICA I THINK GOES THROUGH.
ALRIGHT, THAT WAS VERY LONG, BUT I MOVE FOR APPROVAL.
ALRIGHT, I'M GONNA GO WITH COMMISSIONER WATSON.
UM, ANY DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT.
THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER 13 BY ME WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON.
UH, IT'S A LITTLE EARLIER THAN OUR USUAL BREAK TIME, BUT, AND THIS IS NOT ANYTHING PERSONALLY AGAINST COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE OR HER PROPENSITY TO ASK LOTS OF QUESTIONS, BUT I THINK WE'RE GONNA TAKE FOR ABOUT FIVE MINUTES AND THE TIME IS TWO 30.
UH, THE TIME IS 2 38 AND WE ARE BACK IN SESSION.
I DID WANT TO NOTE THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER WATSON STEPPED OUT FROM TWO 10 TO TWO 13 DURING OUR PREVIOUS SESSION.
UM, AT THIS POINT WE ARE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER SIX
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AND BETA'S ZONING PLANNER.ITEM NUMBER SIX IS GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 200 BLOCK OF WEST JOSEPHINE STREET AND IS A PROPOSAL TO GO FROM I D Z C THREE N A AND I ONE TO I D Z THREE WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
THERE ARE 89 NOTICES THAT WITH TWO RETURN IN FAVOR, ZERO IN OPPOSITION.
TOBIN HILL COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR AND TOBIN HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR.
OUTSIDE 200 FEET THERE IS ONE IN OPPOSITION.
THE STAFF STAFF DOES FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
THE PROPOSED USE IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
WHILE I D Z AND SIMILAR ZONING DESIGNATIONS CAN BE FOUND IN PROXIMITY TO THE SUBJECT SITE.
THE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROPOSED I D Z THREE HIGH INTENSITY INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE DISTRICT IS OUT OF CHARACTER WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
THE PROPOSED PROPOSED IDZ THREE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR BAR TAVERN C TWO AND C TWO DISTRICT COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS APPROPRIATE.
BUT THE RESIDENTIAL INFILL DEVELOPMENT IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THE AREA.
THE PROPOSED 1000 UNITS DOES NOT MAINTAIN THE EXISTING CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE EXISTING LAND USE ALLOWS FOR DEVELOPMENT OF MF 33 MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT AT A DENSITY OF 33 UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH IS AN APPROPRIATE NEIGHBORHOOD SCALE DENSITY.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IF THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE WOULD INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AND TELL US ABOUT THE REQUEST.
PATRICK CHRISTENSEN, THREE 10 SOUTH ST.
I'VE BEEN TALKING TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
UM, TWO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, TWO CONDO ASSOCIATIONS.
AND I'VE MET PERSONALLY WITH ANY NEIGHBOR OF THE, WITH ANY NEIGHBOR THAT'S REACHED OUT TO ME THUS FAR.
TRYING TO MAKE SURE I, I REACHED OUT TO ABSOLUTELY EVERYONE.
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE TODAY IS A, A TRANSFORMATIVE PROJECT FOR THIS CORRIDOR OF TOWN THAT'S PRIMARILY, YOU SAW THE PHOTOS PRIMARILY CONSISTS OF OLDER INDUSTRIAL, USES A COUPLE OF SMALL HOUSES, A COUPLE OF SMALL SHOPS, UM, YOU KNOW, STAFF'S RECOMMENDING DENIAL.
I'M GONNA GO INTO A LITTLE BIT OF AN EXPLANATION OF OF WHY I THINK THAT IS AND, UM, WHY I THINK YOU SHOULD SUPPORT THE ZONING CASE.
SO SHORT POWERPOINT, I'LL, I'LL GET INTO THIS PHOTO HERE IN A SECOND.
SO I DON'T WANNA GET TOO DEEP INTO THE PLAN AMENDMENT PART, BUT THAT'S WHY STAFF'S RECOMMENDING DENIAL.
AND COMMISSIONER BUSANTE HAS ALREADY HEARD THIS, SO I, I FEEL SORRY FOR HIM.
BUT THE CURRENT DESIGNATION IS EMPLOYMENT FLEX MIXED USE, WHICH AS STAFF STATED, ONLY ALLOWS 33 UNITS PER ACRE.
WELL, AS YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE NEAR PEARL AREA, 33 UNITS PER ACRE, NO ONE IS DOING THAT AND NO ONE'S EVER GONNA DO THAT AGAIN.
THE REAL ESTATE COSTS ARE JUST WAY TOO EXPENSIVE.
YOU'RE TALKING, YOU KNOW, A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLAR TOWN HOMES IF WE CAN ONLY DO 33 UNITS PER ACRE AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TODAY.
SO WHAT I REQUESTED WAS REGIONAL MIXED USE, WHICH FOLLOWING SOME OF THE LOGIC OF THE CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT, WOULD STILL ONLY ALLOW ME 65 UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH AGAIN, IS STILL NOT ENOUGH FOR THE NEURO PEARL AREA.
NO ONE IN DOING ANY REZONINGS OR DEVELOPMENTS NEAR THE PEARL IS ASKING FOR, FOR 65 UNITS PER ACRE OR LESS.
HOWEVER, THE, HOWEVER THE REASONABLE MIXED USE DOES ALLOW D DOWNTOWN DISTRICT AND I HIGHLIGHTED THAT BECAUSE D HAS NO NO LIMITATION ON OVERALL DENSITY.
SO THAT'S WHAT I REQUESTED FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THEY UNANIMOUSLY SUPPORTED MY REQUEST TO CHANGE THE LAND PLAN DESIGNATION TO REGIONAL MIXED USE NEXT WEEK.
SO THIS IS THE, THE OVERALL SITE, UM, A, B, C AND D.
LEMME SEE IF I CAN GET THIS THING TO WORK.
MARY'S, JOSEPHINE, GRAYSON, THIS IS POLK STREET.
THAT'LL BECOME IMPORTANT IN A MINUTE.
OKAY, SO WE'VE GOT A, B, C, AND D SITE A WHEN WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
WHAT WE'VE DONE ON THAT, THEIR REQUEST WAS THAT UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS PART OF THEIR HISTORIC DISTRICT.
THEY DID NOT WANT ANYTHING TO TOWERING OVER THAT.
SO WHAT WE'VE AGREED TO IS A THREE AND A HALF STORY LIMITATION, 45 FOOT MAXIMUM HEIGHT ALONG ST.
AND WHY WE SAID 0.5, 3.5 WAS WE'RE ANTICIPATING SORT OF A BROOKLYN LOOKING WALK DOWN, WALK UP, WALK DOWN TO EITHER A STUDIO, APARTMENT OR SMALL OFFICE AND WALK UP TO A UNIT OFF THE STREET.
SO KINDA HAVE THE LITTLE STOOPS LIKE YOU WOULD SEE IN, IN THE NORTHEAST, UH, OF THE COUNTRY.
WE'VE ALSO AGREED TO HEIGHT LIMITATIONS.
WE ORIGINALLY CAME IN WITH SOME SITES BEING 150 FEET.
WE'VE AGREED TO 78 MAXIMUM, 78 FEET OF MAXIMUM HEIGHT PER SITES A, B, AND C SITE D SINCE IT'S UH, ADJACENT TO TO RESIDENTIAL.
BACK ON ASHBY, WE'VE AGREED TO A 50 FOOT HEIGHT LIMITATION.
AND THIS IS KIND OF THAT KINDA BLOWN UP A LITTLE BIT NEXT.
SO THIS VIEW IS ON JOSEPHINE STREET LOOKING EAST TOWARDS
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BROADWAY.THIS WOULD BE SITE D, SITE C, AND SITE B.
WHAT WE'RE ASKING TO DO THERE IS I BROUGHT THIS UP TO THE TOBIN HILL COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION.
WE'RE GONNA ASK THE CITY IF THERE'S SOME WAY WE COULD ASK FOR THE STREET TO BE CLOSED, SAY FROM 10:00 AM TO EITHER MIDNIGHT OR 2:00 AM UM, FOR PEDESTRIANS ONLY.
SO ANY VEHICULAR TRAFFIC AS FAR AS MAKING DELIVERY TO RESTAURANTS AND SHOPS THAT WOULD BE LOCATED ALONG THE STREET WOULD HAVE TO BE EARLY IN THE MORNING AND THEN THE STREET WOULD CLOSE AND WE COULD HAVE MORE OF A PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY SPACE THAT WOULD NOT ALLOW CAR TRAFFIC.
BUT, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD HAD SOME PEOPLE WERE SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
SOME PEOPLE DIDN'T LIKE IT, SO I TOLD THE NEIGHBORHOOD WE WOULD GET BACK WITH 'EM AFTER WE GET THE ZONING 'CAUSE IT'S ALL KIND OF A MOOT POINT WITHOUT THE ZONING CHANGE.
AND THIS WOULD BE, AGAIN, LOOKING EAST ON JOSEPHINE.
THAT WOULD BE POLK STREET ON THE RIGHT, KIND OF AS ZOOM IN UP CLOSE.
SO, UH, I'LL GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN, BUT I KIND OF WANNA EXPLAIN SOME OF THE DISCREPANCIES AND WHAT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS RECOMMENDING.
SO MY CURRENT DESIGNATION IS EMPLOYMENT FLEX.
THE END OF THE BLOCK, MY SAME BLOCK, UH, MADE A REQUEST FOR 128 UNITS PER ACRE AND STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL ON THAT ONE.
AGAIN, EMPLOYMENT FLEX, 211 UNITS PER ACRE.
REGIONAL MIXED USE IS WHAT I'VE ASKED FOR 212 UNITS PER ACRE STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.
UM, IN THE CASE YOU JUST HEARD A MONTH AGO WAS FOR, UM, IT'S THE, THE SHINGLE BUILDING THERE ON, ON JOSEPHINE AND, AND GRAYSON.
UM, THEY RECOMMENDED 140 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE AND STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.
SO THE REASON STAFF SAYING THAT THEY COULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THOSE AND NOT ON MINE WAS BECAUSE THE PLAN WAS UPDATED AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS RECOMMENDED EMPLOYMENT FLEX FOR THIS, FOR MY AREA OF, OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE A PROJECT, YOU DON'T HAVE ANYONE COMING IN WITH, UM, USES DENSITIES, WHY WOULD THE NEIGHBORHOOD GIVE DEVELOPERS JUST A BLANK CHECK? YOU KNOW, THE REQUIRING THE PLAN AMENDMENT, REQUIRING THE ZONING CHANGE FORCES THE DEVELOPERS TO COME BEFORE THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND BEFORE THE NEIGHBORS TO EXPLAIN WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO.
AGREE TO HEIGHT LIMITATIONS, AGREE TO USE LIMITATIONS, SETBACKS, ET CETERA.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE, WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE TODAY AND THAT'S WHY THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.
WE CAN GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN.
AND SO WITH REGARDING THE ASHBY, WE HAVE, I FORGOT TO MENTION THIS, WHAT WE AGREED TO DO, AND I THINK THE BATTERY JUST DIED ON THIS, IF YOU LOOK THERE ON THE BACK, WE'VE AGREED TO A 10 FOOT PERIMETER SET BUILDING SETBACK.
SO THERE WILL BE NO BUILDINGS RIGHT ON THE, ON THE FENCE LINES, WE'VE AGREED TO A TWO STORY HEIGHT LIMITATION, 50 FEET FROM THE REAR PROPERTY LINE, ALL OF THAT KIND OF PUSHING THE BUILDING TOWARDS THE STREETS.
THEN WE'LL BE AGAIN, WE DON'T WANT TO TOWER OVER ANYONE'S BACKYARDS.
UM, THAT'S MY BASIC PRESENTATION.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ANYONE MAY HAVE.
OH, I I WANNA SHOW YOU A COUPLE MORE SLIDES.
AND THAT'S THE SUPPORT LETTER FROM THE TOBAN HILL COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION.
AND THE NEXT ONE IS THE TOBAN HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
AGAIN, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO, THERE IS NONE, NO VOICEMAILS.
WE RECEIVE NO VOICEMAILS FOR THIS CASE.
VERY GOOD FOR THE ZONING COMMISSION.
ALRIGHT, YOU GET NO REBUTTAL MR. CHRISTENSEN.
ALRIGHT, THIS IS A DISTRICT ONE CASE COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS.
I DON'T HAVE A TON OF QUESTIONS.
SO JUST TO CLARIFY FROM STAFF, THIS WENT TO PLANNING COMMISSION RESULTS FROM THAT WAS WHAT HE, UH, APPROVED IT? YEAH, THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL
COULD GO, IT TOOK ME A MINUTE TO REMEMBER.
UM, AND THEN, UM, SO JUST TO KIND OF GO BACK TO WHAT PATRICK PRESENTED TO US IN THOSE PREVIOUS CASES, UM, IN THAT AREA THAT DID HAVE THE EMPLOYMENT FLEX MIXED USE, UM, STAFF HAD RECOMMENDED APPROVAL ON ALL OF THOSE AS I REMEMBER.
AND I JUST WANNA KIND OF CLARIFY FOR EVERYONE UP HERE THAT THERE WAS A CHANGE IN KIND OF INTERPRETATION BASED ON A RID, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT KIND OF WHY WE ARE IN A DIFFERENT PLACE NOW? SURE.
UM, YEAH, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT DID A RID THAT, UH, WAS MORE SPECIFIC TO EACH DENSITY THAT IS ALLOWED IN EACH TYPE OF LAND USE.
AND SO NOW WHENEVER STAFF LOOKS AT A ZONING CASE AND THE SITE DESIGN OF IT, WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE ACREAGE WITH THE MAXIMUM DENSITY PROPOSED PER THE EXISTING LAND USE.
AND SO, UM, THAT IS WHERE THAT RESTRICTION CAME FROM
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AND HE'S RIGHT.YES, WE DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL ON THOSE, BUT AS YOU POINTED OUT, IT WAS, UH, BEFORE THAT R WENT INTO PLACE.
I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
I WAS, I THINK IT WAS, UH, ALRIGHT, UH, COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT QUESTIONS WE'RE READY TO MOVE ON.
COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS? I WOULDN'T HAVE TAKEN A BREAK HAD I KNOWN.
UM, CAN I JUST MAKE ONE COMMENT, COMMISSIONER? I I JUST WANNA LET THE COMMISSIONER KNOW THAT I'M STILL WORKING WITH SOME OF THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS AND I'LL CONTINUE WORKING WITH EVERYONE WE HAVE A WHOLE MONTH BEFORE WE GO TO COUNCIL AND I'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
AND IN FACT, THIS WILL GO TO COUNSEL ON FEBRUARY 2ND OR THEREABOUTS? YES.
COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE MOTION.
UM, BUT I DO WANNA MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.
SO, UM, I'LL BE MAKING A MOTION FOR APPROVAL FOR ITEM NUMBER SIX.
AND, UM, JUST A COUPLE OF COMMENTS WITH RESPECT TO THAT.
I, UM, STRUGGLED A LITTLE BIT WITH THIS CASE BECAUSE, UM, IT, IT IS A HIGHER DENSITY THAN SOME OF THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE APPROVED CLOSER TO ST.
SO BASICALLY THE WAY THAT THE PLAN IS, IS THAT THE DENSITY IN THIS AREA, IT TENDS TO BE CONCENTRATED ALONG THE RIVER AND CLOSER TO THE PEARL.
AND THEN AS YOU GET MORE INTO THE SINGLE FAMILY USE IN TOBIN HILL GOING TO THE WEST, THE DENSITIES HAVE GONE DOWN.
UM, AND YOU'LL REMEMBER THE URBAN GENESIS CASE WE HAD MAYBE ABOUT A YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF AGO.
MAYBE IT'S BEEN LONGER, I DON'T KNOW IT WAS COVID, SO I HAVE NO IDEA.
BUT, UM, IT WAS A CASE IN THIS KIND OF SIMILAR AREA AND THEY HAD WANTED TO INCREASE THE DENSITY THERE.
UM, AND WE RECOMMENDED DENIAL, UM, BASED ON A MOTION THAT I MADE.
I SEE THIS CASE AS BEING DIFFERENT AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS CLEAR.
UM, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS I STRUGGLED WITH IS SETTING A PRECEDENT OF HIGHER DENSITY TO THE WEST, WHICH I THINK WAS MAYBE NOT THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF THE PLAN.
HOWEVER, IN THIS CASE, BECAUSE WE ARE AT THIS LARGER INTERSECTION OF ST.
MARY'S, JOSEPHINE AND DEWEY, AND THERE IS THIS KIND OF, IT'S IN, IN MY OPINION, I SEE THIS AS A DIFFERENT SITUATION BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC IMPACT WILL BE LESS THAN, FOR EXAMPLE, THE URBAN GENESIS CASE, WHICH WAS GRAYSON AND LOCUST, I BELIEVE, WHICH ARE VERY NARROW STREETS THAT ARE HARD TO GET BY EVEN ONE CAR.
IT'S HARD TO GET BY WITH THOSE WHEN THERE'S ANY ON-STREET PARKING JOSEPHINE, HOWEVER, AND THE FACT THAT WE'RE ON THAT HARD CORNER OF ST.
MARY'S, THERE'S A LOT MORE MOBILITY BASED ON THAT.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT DISTINCTION IS MADE IN CASE THAT IT SEEMS LIKE I'M TAKING AN INCONSISTENT STANCE.
UM, THAT WAS THE DECIDING FACTOR FOR ME HERE, IN ADDITION TO THE FACT THAT PATRICK WORKED REALLY HARD WITH BOTH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AS WELL AS WITH ALL OF THE NEIGHBORS IN THE AREA AND REALLY CAME TO, UM, AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM MAKING A LOT OF COMPROMISES.
AND SO THAT'S WHY I AM MAKING A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE OF ITEM NUMBER SIX WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RE BARROS, UH, DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER TO MY WRIGHT COMMISSIONER.
SIPES, I'LL, I'LL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
UM, FOR THE REASONS THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE OUTLINED.
UM, I TRAVELED DOWN JOSEPHINE FOR THREE YEARS TAKING MY SON TO, UH, HAWTHORNE ACADEMY.
I KNOW I BRING IT UP EVERY SINGLE TIME, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY REALLY COOL TO SEE THE, THE, THE CHANGE AND UM, UH, MY SON WHO'S NOW IN COLLEGE IS, IS REALLY BEEN REALLY INTERESTED AND, AND REALLY AMAZED AT HOW HE HAS SEEN JUST IN, IN, IN, UH, JUST THE LAST COUPLE YEARS HOW THIS AREA OF TOWN HAS, UM, UH, BECOME A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, WITH, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL DENSITY.
AND I THINK THE MODIFICATION THAT PATRICK AND HIS TEAM MADE, UM, ALLOWS THE, THE HEIGHT TO TRANSITION DOWN TO UM, ST.
SO FOR THOSE REASONS I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SIPES.
COMMISSIONER TOMAY WRIGHT? NOPE.
UH, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
UM, I ALSO REPRESENT AN URBAN DISTRICT AND I THINK THIS IS A COMMENDABLE EXAMPLE OF USING, UM, SOME OF THOSE MORE UNUSUAL
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FLEXIBLE ZONING DISTRICTS.UM, THAT, UH, YOU DON'T WANNA WRITE A BLANK CHECK AS PATRICK POINTED OUT, BUT WHEN WE, UM, ARE THOUGHTFUL AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S COMMUNITY DISCUSSION, YOU CAN ACHIEVE GREATER DENSITY THAT ACHIEVES A LOT OF OUR POLICY OUTCOMES RELATED TO HOUSING, REACTIVATING CORRIDORS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHILE ALSO PRESERVING THE HISTORIC CHARACTER OF NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, I'M ENCOURAGED TO SEE, UM, INCREASED IN DENSITY WITH APPROPRIATE TRANSITIONS THAT'S REFLECTED IN THIS PROJECT.
UM, I HOPE IT SETS A STANDARD AND A PRECEDENT FOR THE POSITIVE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE WANNA SEE IN URBAN CORRIDORS THAT NEIGHBORHOODS ARE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF, UM, AS LONG AS WE WORK TOGETHER.
AND I WANNA COMMEND THE APPLICANT AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT ONE OFFICE FOR DOING A GREAT JOB ON THIS CASE.
ALRIGHT, FURTHER DISCUSSION, COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT.
ALRIGHT, BRIEFLY, I'M GONNA DO SOMETHING I HATE TO DO, BUT, UM, I'M GOING TO REITERATE WHAT EVERYONE JUST SAID.
UM, BUT I DO WANT TO REALLY STRESS HOW IMPORTANT IT WAS, UH, TO SEE THE COMMUNITY BUY-IN.
I THINK THAT WAS TRUE AT PLANNING AND THAT'S TRUE HERE.
AND SO AGAIN, I HAVE ONE NOTE ON THIS BODY AND THAT IS TO REALLY ENCOURAGE ALL APPLICANTS TO GO REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, WORK WITH YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, WORK WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS, AND GO FORWARD ON THAT BASIS.
AND THE FACT THAT THIS WAS STORAGE FOR TRAFFIC DIVERSION STUFF OR AROUND IT WAS STORAGE FOR TRAFFIC DIVERSION STUFF FOR DECADES WAS A WASTE OF THIS PROPERTY, A WASTE OF THIS AREA.
AND SO SEEING A GOOD PROJECT LIKE THIS IS WONDERFUL TO SEE.
UM, AND AGAIN, WE ARE NOT GONNA GIVE DEVELOPERS BLANK CHECKS, BUT WHEN THEY COME BEFORE PLANNING WITH A GOOD PLAN, WHEN THEY COME BEFORE ZONING WITH A GOOD PLAN AND ACCOMMODATIONS MADE TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS, IT'S WONDERFUL TO SEE.
ALRIGHT, THAT BEING SAID, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BOTTLES ROLL CALL.
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LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS NUMBER 18, WHICH IS THE CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF THE DECEMBER 6TH, 2022 ZONING COMMISSION.ANY ADDITIONS? SUBTRACTIONS, AMENDMENTS, AMENDMENTS, EMANATIONS? ANYONE LEFT? RIGHT? SEEING NONE, THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR A MOTION.
MR. CHAIR, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS SUBMITTED.
ALRIGHT, MOTION FOR APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED BY COMMISSIONER SIPES.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON.
ALRIGHT, MINUTES ARE APPROVED.
ANY FURTHER BUSINESS BEFORE THIS DIRECTOR'S REPORT? ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE? UH, NO.
JUST ELECTIONS IN JANUARY AND HAVE A GREAT HOLIDAY SEASON AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR.
ALRIGHT, EVERYONE, HAPPY HOLIDAYS.
THE TIME IS 2 56 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.