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GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. 
          WOULD YOU PLEASE BE SEATED? THANK YOU. 
          WELCOME TO THE CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING OF NOVEMBER THE FIRST, 2018. 
          EVERYONE, WOULD YOU PLEASE HAVE A SEAT? THANK YOU. 
          WELCOME TO THE CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING OF NOVEMBER THE FIRST 2018. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER VINNO, COUNCIL MEMBER SHAW WILL NOT BE HERE TODAY. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER GERRAN. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER SALDANA. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER BROCK HOUSE PRESENT. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER BELIA. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE PRESENT. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY HERE. 
          HERE. 
          AND MAYOR NURENBERG. 
          HERE. 
          MAYOR, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          WELCOME EVERYONE TO OUR CITY COUNCIL, A SESSION AGENDA. 
          TIME IS 9:11 AM AND I'D LIKE TO ASK OUR COLLEAGUE, COUNCILMAN TREVINO, TO WELCOME OUR INDICATOR. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME REVEREND ROBERT ORTIZ, PASTOR OF ASBURY UNITED METHODIST CHURCH. 
          REVEREND ORTIZ WAS BORN, RAISED IN SAN ANTONIO AND GRADUATED FROM WHEATLEY HIGH SCHOOL IN 1983. 
          HE EARNED A BA IN SOCIOLOGY FROM U T SS A, A MASTER'S OF DIVINITY FROM UNITED THEOLOGICAL SEMINARY IN DAYTON, OHIO, AND IS CURRENTLY WORKING ON A DOCTOR OF MINISTRY IN CHURCH LEADERSHIP AT WESLEY THEOLOGICAL SEMINARY IN WASHINGTON D C. 
          HE HAS BEEN THE LEAD PASTOR OF ASBURY U M C SINCE 2009 AND HAS SERVED CHURCHES IN DEL RIO KINGSVILLE AND SAN ANTONIO. 
          HIS WIFE DIANE, AND HE HAVE BEEN MARRIED FOR 25 YEARS AND, AND THEY HAVE THREE DAUGHTERS AND ONE SON. 
          HE ALSO HAS A DAUGHTER FROM A PREVIOUS MARRIAGE AND ONE GRANDDAUGHTER. 
          IN ADDITION TO MINISTERING TO HIS CONGREGATION, REVEREND NORTHEAST HAS OPENED CHURCH FACILITIES TO RISE RECOVERY AND NONPROFITS, WHICH, WHICH HELPS TEENS AND FAMILIES OVERCOME THE EFFECTS OF DRUGS AND ALCOHOL, AS WELL AS PARTNERING WITH COMMUNITY AND EDUCATION AND PREVENTION. 
          HE HAS ALSO BEEN GENEROUS WITH THE RESOURCES OF THE CHURCH HOSTING REGULAR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETINGS, AND ALSO NUMEROUS DISTRICT ONE EVENTS FOR ALL OF HIS SERVICE, COMPASSION, AND GENEROSITY. 
          I THANK HIM, REVEREND. 
          LET'S PRAY. 
          ETERNAL GOD IN WHOM WE LIVE AND BREATHE AND HAVE OUR BEING. 
          AS WE GATHER IN THIS SPACE, ON THIS ALL SAINTS DAY, WE THANK YOU FOR THOSE FAITHFUL SERVANTS, BOTH KNOWN AND UNKNOWN WHO HAVE FINISHED THEIR COURSE IN LIFE. 
          AND WE TAKE A MOMENT TO REMEMBER THOSE DEAR TO US IN OUR HEARTS. 
          WE THANK YOU, OH GOD, FOR THE BLESSINGS OF EACH DAY, FOR THE GIFTS OF FAMILY, FAITH AND FRIENDSHIP, FOR THE PROVISION OF FOOD AND SHELTER, FOR THESE LEADERS THAT STAND BEFORE US. 
          AND WE ASK, OH GOD, THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THEM WISDOM, COURAGE, AND STRENGTH FOR THE WORK THAT LIES AHEAD, BUT THAT YOU WOULD ALSO GIVE THEM COMPASSION, PEACE, AND LOVE FOR THOSE THEY SERVE. 
          FATHER, WE ARE SO GRATEFUL TO LIVE IN THIS GREAT CITY, AND WHILE IT'S NOT PERFECT, IT IS A WONDERFUL PLACE TO RAISE A FAMILY. 
          SO FINALLY, LORD GOD, WE ALSO WANT TO 
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ASK THAT YOU KEEP US MINDFUL OF THOSE WHO GO WITHOUT THOSE WHO ARE HUNGRY, HOMELESS, AND HURTING, AND SOMEHOW, SOME WAY YOU WOULD EVEN USE EVEN US GOD TO BE YOUR HANDS AND FEET IN SERVICE TO OTHERS. 
          AND SO I HUMBLY LIFT UP THIS PRAYER IN THE NAME OF THE ONE I CALL SAVIOR, JESUS THE CHRIST. 
          AMEN. 
          UNITED STATES OF AMERICA NATION UNDER INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY JUSTICE. 
          THANK YOU PASTOR ORTIZ. 
          WE HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT FOR TRANSLATION SERVICES. 
          ALL RIGHT, THE FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES FROM OCTOBER 3RD AND FOURTH. 
          THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. 
          MINUTES FROM OCTOBER THREE AND FOUR, PLEASE VOTE. 
          MOTION CARRIES. 
          AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO EXTEND A VERY WARM WELCOME TO A GROUP OF VERY SPECIAL VISITORS WHO ARE HERE WITH US THIS MORNING DURING OUR TRICENTENNIAL YEAR, MEMBERS OF THE FOREIGN DIPLOMATIC CORE, EVERY YEAR, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO INVITES CONSULAR MEMBERS AND TRADE COMMISSIONERS OF THE FOREIGN DIPLOMATIC CORPS BASED IN TEXAS AND BEYOND, TO PARTICIPATE IN WHAT WE CALL SAN ANTONIO DAYS, WHICH IS COMPRISED OF THREE EVENTS, THE INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS FORUM, HOSTED BY THE SAN ANTONIO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOUNDATION, THE FOREIGN DIPLOMAT RECEPTION, HOSTED BY THE WORLD AFFAIRS COUNCIL OF SAN ANTONIO, IN COLLABORATION WITH THE CITY'S INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS OFFICE, AND A CULTURAL HALF DAY HOSTED BY THE CITY'S INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS OFFICE. 
          THROUGHOUT THIS TWO DAY EVENT, LOCALS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY IN THE NETWORK ENGAGE WITH THESE VISITING DIPLOMATS. 
          WE LEARN ABOUT THEIR RESPECTIVE COUNTRIES, AND WE PROMOTE SAN ANTONIO'S KEY INDUSTRIES AND HIGHLIGHT OUR ECONOMIC, CULTURAL, AND EDUCATIONAL RESOURCES. 
          JUST BEFORE OUR COUNCIL SESSION BEGAN THIS MORNING, I WAS ABLE TO MEET WITH THIS VERY DIVERSE GROUP OF INSIGHTFUL AND PRODUCTIVE, UH, LEADERS, AND TO DISCUSS OUR SAN ANTONIO PLACE IN THE WORLD MAP, ALONG WITH OUR ENJOYMENT OF BREAKFAST TACOS. 
          FROM HERE, OUR GUESTS WILL VISIT HISTORIC DOWNTOWN LANDMARKS, WHICH TELL THE VIBRANT, IMPRESSIVE STORY OF SAN ANTONIO'S 300 YEAR HISTORY AND WILL END WITH A BARGE RIDE ALONG THE RIVERWALK. 
          AND OVER THIS TWO DAY PERIOD, WE HAVE HOSTED A TOTAL OF 30 DIPLOMATS, TRADE COMMISSIONERS AND CONSULAR OFFICIALS REPRESENTING 20 COUNTRIES. 
          SO THIS MORNING, TODAY WE ARE JOINED BY A SEGMENT OF THEM, AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THOSE HERE TODAY TO STAND AND BE RECOGNIZED AS I INTRODUCE EACH BY NAME. 
          MR. GABRIEL VOL, VOLPE CONSUL GENERAL OF ARGENTINA IN HOUSTON, MR. GER VISSER, HONORARY OF BELARUS IN HOUSTON, MR. BOB BROACH, HONORARY COUNCIL OF BELGIUM AND NAMBIA IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          MR. ALEXIS ANDRESS CONSUL GENERAL OF FRANCE IN HOUSTON, MR. THOMAS MEISTER CONSUL GENERAL OF GERMANY. 
          IN HOUSTON, MR. FREDDIE GASSA, COMMERCIAL COUNSELOR OF FOR THE EMBASSY OF NAMIBIA, MR. MORTON PAULSON, CO CONSUL GENERAL OF NORWAY IN HOUSTON, MR. JOSE EVO, HONORARY CONSUL OF PORTUGAL AND HOUSTON, MS. SANDRA WILKINS, HONORARY CONS OF SVE IN HOUSTON, MR. JOSE MANUEL FRA, CULTURAL ATTACHE FOR THE SPANISH EMBASSY IN MIAMI. 
          MR. SCOTT THOMAS, ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR FOR THE OFFICE OF FOREIGN MISSIONS IN HOUSTON. 
          AND MS. KAMI JONES, DIRECTOR OF INTERNATIONAL PROTOCOL OF THE OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY OF STATE OF TEXAS. 
          WELCOME YOU ALL TO SAN ANTONIO. 
          WE ARE MY COLLEAGUES ARE, UH, EVERYONE IN OUR CITY ARE PLEASED 
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THAT YOU'RE HERE IN OUR CITY, LEARNING ABOUT OUR PAST, ENJOYING THE PRESENT WITH US HERE TODAY, AND DISCOVERING WHERE WE ARE HEADED INTO THE FUTURE. 
          WE HOPE THAT YOU REMEMBER OUR CITY AND COME BACK TO VISIT WITH YOUR COLLEAGUES MANY TIMES OVER VISIT YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WELCOMING YOU BACK AGAIN. 
          UH, AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LOVE IT IF MY COLLEAGUES AND I COULD JOIN YOU DOWN IN THE FRONT AND WE COULD TAKE AN OFFICIAL PHOTO THIS MORNING. 
          WAY. 
          ARE WE GOING? YOU'RE GONNA BE FACING ME, SO YOU GO AGAINST HERE. 
          THE PHOTOGRAPHER WILL BE HERE. 
          SORRY. 
          SO IF EVERYONE COMES TO THE FRONT OVER HERE AND THEN FACES BACK, GREAT. 
          THE MAYOR COULD GO RIGHT THERE AND CENTER. 
          YEAH, JUST NEXT TO YOU. 
          NEXT TO YOU. 
          THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM. 
          SHE'S NOT THAT BIG YOURSELF. 
          THE TWO OF, WHY DON'T YOU ALL COME OVER, BRING A FEW MORE OVER HERE. 
          SO WE, OH, THERE WE GO. 
          COUNCIL. 
          YEAH, SURE. 
          CHERYL SS THE BACK. 
          BOB, IF YOU CAN COME OVER THE, AND, UH, YOU CAN GET RIGHT. 
          1, 2, 3, 1 MORE TIME. 
          1, 2, 3. 
          1, 2, 3. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK Y'ALL. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          ENJOY THE REST OF THE DAY. 
          THANK YOU AGAIN, FRED. 
          WE'LL SEE YOU SOON. 
          VERY MUCH TO SEE YOU TOO. 
          ON THE TRIP TO AFRICA. 
          I WANT TO BE ON THAT TRIP. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH, UH, FOR YOUR PATIENCE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          AS WE KNOW, UH, SAN ANTONIO TAKES GREAT PRIDE IN OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR MILITARY FAMILIES. 
          AND SO WE'D LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE THAT NEXT WEEKEND OUR NATION CELEBRATES VETERANS DAY. 
          WE DO NOT HAVE COUNCIL NEXT WEEK, AND I WANTED TO BRING THIS TO OUR ATTENTION. 
          SO THIS IS A TIME TO REFLECT ON OUR FREEDOM AND WILLINGNESS. 
          OUR VETERANS AND ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY PERSONNEL HAVE SHOWN TO PROTECT IT. 
          AS MILITARY CITY U S A, WE TAKE PARTICULAR PRIDE IN SUPPORTING OUR ARMED FORCES AND THEIR FAMILIES. 
          LESS THAN 1% OF AMERICANS DECIDE TO SERVE IN UNIFORM, AND IT'S AN HONOR TO RECOGNIZE THEIR SACRIFICE AND THEIR LOVE OF THE COUNTRY. 
          WE AFFIRM OUR COMMITMENT TO CARING FOR ALL VETERANS, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO EXPRESS OUR DEEP GRATITUDE IN THE WEEKS TO COME. 
          AMERICA HAS THE STRONGEST MILITARY IN THE WORLD. 
          OUR VETERANS HELPED MAKE THAT A REALITY, AND IT IS OUR JOB HERE IN SAN ANTONIO TO MAKE THEM THE MOST SUPPORTED VETERANS ON THE PLANET FROM PROVIDING ACCESS TO QUALITY HEALTHCARE, TO ENSURING THEY HAVE A PLACE TO CALL HOME. 
          WE'LL CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE AND SUPPORT OUR VETERAN FAMILIES HERE IN SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS. 
          I WANT TO NOTE, ESPECIALLY THAT COUNCILMAN SHAW SERVED IN THE US NAVY RESERVES, COUNCILMAN COURAGE, AND PERRY AND BROCKO ALSO SERVE, AND I THANK THEM FOR THEIR SERVICE TO OUR COUNTRY. 
          I'M PROUD TO WORK BESIDE THEM AND PROUD OF THEIR TIME ON COUNCIL, STRONG SUPPORT OF OUR VETERANS ALL THEREIN. 
          AND LET'S TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW OUR APPRECIATION FOR OUR VETERANS THIS WEEKEND AND EVERY DAY. 
          THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. 
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OKAY. 
          AT THIS POINT, I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY FOR A POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, I HAVE A, UM, AN OPPORTUNITY THIS TODAY TO INVITE YOU ALL TO A TRICENTENNIAL EVENT UP IN DISTRICT 10. 
          UH, HAS ANYBODY HEARD OF, UH, COMANCHE LOOKOUT? ALL RIGHT. 
          A LOT OF PEOPLE. 
          AND IT'S, UH, ACTUALLY A PARK, UH, CLOSE TO THE JULIA YATES SIMS LIBRARY. 
          AND THIS PARK IS DEVELOPED AND IT HAS AN OLD BUILDING ON TOP, AND YOU CAN, IT'S GOT A HUGE SURROUNDING VISTA OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          AND, UH, THERE'S DIFFERENT THEORIES ABOUT WHY IT'S CALLED COMANCHE LOOKOUT. 
          BUT WE'RE GONNA BE CELEBRATING AND KICKING OFF, UH, NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH THERE ON SATURDAY FROM 10 TO TWO, AND THERE'S GONNA BE PARKING AT JULIA YATES SIMS LIBRARY AND ACROSS THE STREET AT A CHURCH. 
          SO THERE'LL BE PLENTY OF PARKING. 
          SO I WANT TO INVITE YOU ALL TO COME OUT THERE. 
          WE'RE GONNA HAVE MUSIC, WE'RE GONNA HAVE FOOD, WE'RE GONNA HAVE FLUTE PLAYING, BASKET WEAVING, UH, STORYTELLING ON THAT, AROUND THAT WHOLE LOOKOUT. 
          AND THE REASON IT'S SO SIGNIFICANT AND WHY I WANTED TO HAVE IT AS A TRICENTENNIAL EVENT, WE'RE CELEBRATING 300 YEARS HERE IN SAN ANTONIO THIS YEAR, BUT GUESS WHAT? THEY HAVE FOUND ARTIFACTS UP ON THAT HILL DATING BACK 10,000 YEARS FROM OUR NATIVE AMERICANS. 
          SO THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME OVER THERE AND LEARN AND SEE WHAT THIS, THIS, WHAT I CALL A MONUMENT ON THE NORTHEAST SIDE IS FOR EVERYBODY TO COME OUT AND ENJOY THAT. 
          SO I WELCOME EVERYBODY TO COME OUT THERE ON SATURDAY AND COME, COME ENJOY, UH, UH, DURING THAT TIME. 
          AND THERE'S GONNA BE A PRESENTATION AT NOON AND, UH, BRING YOUR FAMILY OUT THERE. 
          IT'S A REALLY NEAT PLACE TO GO VISIT. 
          AND, UM, I WANNA ALSO ECHO WHAT, UH, THE MAYOR JUST TALKED ABOUT, ABOUT CELEBRATING VETERANS DAY. 
          I HAVE SOMETHING SPECIAL ALSO. 
          ANYBODY KNOW WHAT THAT IS? IT'S A COMBAT BOOT. 
          I, I WENT WAY BACK IN MY CLOSET AND DUG THESE THINGS OUT. 
          IN FACT, THEY WERE SO SCUFFED AND, AND BEAT UP. 
          THEY WERE BROWN. 
          AND I STAYED UP LAST NIGHT AND POLISHED THEM LIKE A GOOD AIR FORCE OFFICER. 
          WELL, THEY'RE NOT AS SHINY AS THEY SHOULD BE, BUT ANYWAY, I THEY LOOK BLACK. 
          THESE ARE COMBAT BOOTS. 
          HOW MANY VETERANS ARE HERE TODAY? RAISE YOUR HAND. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          OUTTA THOSE VETERANS WHO STILL HAS THEIR COMBAT BOOTS. 
          ALL RIGHT, GOT A COUPLE OF US. 
          WELL, WE'RE GONNA DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT HERE IN SAN ANTONIO BECAUSE WE ARE MILITARY CITY U S A. 
          WE WANNA RECOGNIZE OUR VETERANS HERE. 
          AND, UH, HOW DO YOU RECOGNIZE 'EM WHEN PEOPLE ARE ALL DRESSED IN SUITS AND GOING TO WORK AND, AND OUT DOING THEIR DAY-TO-DAY BUSINESS? WELL, UH, I HAD AN INDIVIDUAL THAT I'VE ACTUALLY KNOWN SINCE HE WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL, UH, AS A VETERAN, MARINE VETERAN. 
          UH, HE HAD THIS IDEA OF DOING WHAT WE, WHAT WE'RE GONNA CALL BOOTS ON VETS. 
          AND WE'RE ASKING EVERYBODY IN THIS CITY, IF YOU ARE A VETERAN, TO PULL OUT YOUR OLD COMBAT BOOTS NEXT FRIDAY AND WEAR 'EM TO WORK THAT WAY. 
          YOU WILL SEE WHO ARE THE VETERANS HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          WHAT AN AWESOME IDEA TO RECOGNIZE THOSE FOLKS AND TO SEE WHO IS OUT THERE DOING THAT, UH, AND HAS SERVED HERE IN THE UNITED STATES. 
          SO, UH, THE CITY, CITY STAFF, WE'VE ALREADY PUT OUT THE WORD TO WHERE DO THIS NEXT WEEK, FRIDAY, AND I'VE ALSO TALKED TO PAULA GOLD WILLIAMS AND ROBERT PUENTE. 
          SO C P SS AND SAWS ARE GONNA PARTICIPATE, AND WE'RE WELCOMING EVERYONE IN THIS CITY TO PULL OUT YOUR COMBAT BOOTS OR GO GET SOME OTHER ONES AND WEAR 'EM NEXT WEEK, FRIDAY. 
          SO I WORE MINE TODAY JUST TO REMIND EVERYBODY OKAY, I TOOK, TOOK IT OFF BEHIND HERE, BUT, UH, UH, YES, PLEASE, LET'S DO THIS. 
          LET'S KICK THIS OFF. 
          AND YES, I DON'T HAVE A SHOE ON , SO, UH, LET'S, LET'S RECOGNIZE OUR VETERANS. 
          AND IF YOU ARE A VETERAN, BE PROUD OF THAT AND WEAR YOUR COMBAT BOOTS TO WORK THIS NEXT FRIDAY. 
          THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN PERRY. 
          ALRIGHT, AT THIS TIME WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR ITEM FOR ITEMS FOR ACTION. 
          WE HAVE ONE ITEM LISTED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. 
          THE REST ARE ON CONSENT, SO I'LL ASK MY COLLEAGUES NOW IF THERE ARE ANY ITEMS THEY WISH TO PULL FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          I DO HAVE ITEM 20 PULLED BY DISTRICT THREE. 
          YEP. 
          3 0 5, I'M SORRY. 
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FOUR. 
          YEAH, ITEM FOUR. 
          ITEM FOUR IS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. 
          17. 
          OKAY. 
          ITEM 17, MAYOR. 
          OH, COUNCILMAN SALDANA 10 AND NUMBER 26. 
          OKAY, MAYOR, ITEM NUMBER 11, AND ITEM NUMBER 26. 
          OKAY. 
          COUNCILMAN GRO, ITEM 25. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHERS? ALRIGHT. 
          RIGHT, I HAVE ITEMS 10, 11, 17, 20 25, 26 FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION ALONG WITH ITEM FOUR, WHICH IS ON THE INDIVIDUAL AGENDA. 
          ANY OTHERS? OKAY. 
          IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          SO SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH IS ALL ITEMS SAY FOR 10, 11, 17, 20, 25, AND 26. 
          UM, COUNCILMAN TRAVINO. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, AND I JUST WANNA TAKE THIS PERSONAL POINT OF PRIVILEGE BEFORE WE'RE VOTING ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA. 
          WE LEFT ITEMS 23 AND 24, WHICH IS A RESOLUTION TO INITIATE HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO POINT THIS PARTICULAR, UH, UH, ITEM OUT BECAUSE THIS IS, I THINK, UH, GONNA SET A GREAT EXAMPLE FOR HOW NEIGHBORHOODS AND, AND, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY CAN, CAN COME TOGETHER AND WORK TOGETHER ON A, ON A SOLUTION TO MOVE US FORWARD. 
          SO, I'M, I'M EXCITED TO, TO KNOW THAT WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT TO WORK TOGETHER ON CREATING A, A CHARETTE AT MY FIELD OFFICE TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE POSSIBILITIES WITH THESE POTENTIAL PROPERTIES. 
          WE'VE KEPT THE, KEPT THEM ON CONSENT BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA FOLLOW THE CITY PROCESS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE INITIATE THE, THE, THAT PROCESS FOR HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION. 
          HOWEVER, I JUST WANNA RECOGNIZE THE EFFORTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND, AND THE DEVELOPERS TO, TO COME TOGETHER TO TRY TO, UH, CREATE A RESOLUTION. 
          I WANNA SPECIFICALLY THANK MR DE NINO FOR INITIATING THIS PROCESS AND LOOK FORWARD TO SETTING A GREAT EXAMPLE THAT WE CAN ALL LEARN FROM. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU COUNCILMAN VINNO. 
          WE DO HAVE SOME CITIZENS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEMS, UH, REMAINING ON CONSENT. 
          UH, SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THEM NOW. 
          UH, WE'LL BEGIN WITH STELLA DE LA GARZA. 
          IS STELLA DE LA GARZA. 
          OKAY, MS. DE LA GARZA, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY KATHLEEN BAILEY. 
          EXCUSE ME, MAYOR, THESE ARE ITEMS 23 AND 24. 
          OKAY. 
          YES, YOU CAN PASS OUT 23 AND 24. 
          OKAY. 
          ON AGENDA ITEM 23, UH, COUNCILMAN AND, UH, MAYOR, I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF SUSAN BEVIN, THE PRESIDENT OF SAN ANTONIO CONSERVATION SOCIETY, AND I AM NOW GOING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 23. 
          THE SAN ANTONIO CONSERVATION SOCIETY SUPPORTS A RESOLUTION TO INITIATE HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION FOR 800 WEST RUSSELL IN THE ALTA VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICT. 
          THIS CIRCA 1920 CRAFTSMAN STYLE BUNGALOW MEETS THREE OF THE CRITERIA NECESSARY TO QUALIFY THE ORIGINAL OWNER. 
          MARY DEHE IS SIGNIFICANT FOR HER CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, INCLUDING THE EXTENSION, THE OF THE STREETCAR ROUTE TO ALTA VISTA, THE HOUSE AND BODY'S DISTINGUISHING CHARACTERISTICS OF THE CRAFTSMAN STYLE AND IS AN ESTABLISHED VISUAL FEATURE ON THE CORNER OF NORTH FLORES CORRIDOR. 
          LEADING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD FROM SAN PEDRO SPRINGS PARK. 
          LANDMARK DESIGNATION WOULD NOT ONLY ENABLE THE OWNER TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF TAX INCENTIVES, BUT WOULD ALSO HELP PRESERVE A BUILDING THAT CONTRIBUTES TO ALTA VISTA'S ELIGIBILITY AS A HISTORIC DISTRICT, RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED, SAN ANTONIO CONSERVATION SOCIETY, ITEM NUMBER 24 25 11 NORTH FLOYD STREET, THE SAN ANTONIO CONSERVATION SOCIETY SUPPORTS A RESOLUTION TO INITIATE HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION TO 25 11 NORTH FLORES, WHICH PREDATES 1911, AND IS ONE OF THE OLDEST STRUCTURES IN THIS PART OF THE ALTA VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          WE BELIEVE THAT THIS BUILDING, WHICH HAS BEEN USED AS AFFORDABLE MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING SINCE 1921, MEETS THE THREE CRITERIA NECESSARY UNDER THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATION. 
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IN ADDITION TO CRITERIA ONE IN 13 IDENTIFIED BY THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION, THIS STRUCTURE ALSO MEETS CRITERION SEVEN. 
          THE UNIQUE LOCATION OF THIS HOUSE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE 2,500 BLOCK OF NORTH FLOTIS MAKES IT WORTHY OF PRESERVATION AS AN ESTABLISHED OR FAMILIAR VISUAL FEATURE ALONG THIS ENTRY CORRIDOR INTO ALBA VISTA FROM SAN PEDRO SPRINGS PARK, AS THE ONLY OTHER TWO STORY HOUSE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE BLOCK. 
          THE STRUCTURE'S PRESENCE IS ESSENTIAL TO MAINTAINING THE VISUAL CONTINUITY OF HISTORIC HOUSING STOCK ALONG THIS SECTION OF THE STREET. 
          ALTHOUGH SOME ORIGINAL MATERIALS HAVE BEEN SUPERFICIALLY ALTERED, THE BUILDING'S BASIC FORM REMAINS INTACT. 
          LANDMARK DESIGNATION WOULD ALLOW THE OWNER TO QUALIFY FOR TAX CREDITS WHILE CONTINUING TO OFFER AFFORDABLE MULTI-HOUSING WITHIN THE HISTORIC CONTEXT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          IT WOULD ALSO STRENGTHEN THE PROTECTION OF AFFORDED TO THE COLLECTION OF HISTORIC PROPERTIES NEAR THE CORNER OF NORTH LOTES AND WEST RUSSELL, WHICH CONTRIBUTE TO ALTA VISTA'S OVERALL ELIGIBILITY AS A HISTORIC DISTRICT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU, MS. DE LA GARZA. 
          KATHLEEN BAILEY, FOLLOWED BY THERESA NINO, MAYOR AND COUNSEL. 
          UH, MY NAME IS KATHLEEN BAILEY. 
          I LIVE AT 7 22 WEST FRENCH PLACE. 
          I'VE LIVED IN MY GRANDMOTHER'S 100 YEAR OLD HOME FOR 70 YEARS. 
          I'M HERE TODAY TO SUPPORT LANDMARK DESIGNATION FOR 800 WEST RUSSELL, WHICH IS LOCATED HALF A BLOCK FROM MY HOME. 
          THIS CIRCA 1920 CRAFTSMAN STYLE BUNGALOW REFLECTS THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE OF MANY STRUCTURES IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, INCLUDING MY HOME AT 7 22 WEST FRENCH. 
          THE STRUCTURE AT 800 WEST RUSSELL IS LOCATED ON THE CORNER OF WEST RUSSELL AND NORTH FLOOR STREETS, WHERE FLOOR STREETS BE BEING A GATEWAY INTO SAN PEDRO SPRINGS PARK. 
          AT ONE TIME, A STREETCAR ROUTE RAN ALONG NORTH FLORES. 
          THE ALTA VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD HAS AN ECLECTIC MIX OF ARCHITECTURE REFLECTING ITS PAST HISTORY. 
          I FEEL IT IS VITAL TO PROTECT THE DIVERSITY AND UNIQUENESS OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BY PRESERVING THESE ORIGINAL STRUCTURES. 
          PLEASE SUPPORT THE RESOLUTION TO INITIATE HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION FOR 800 WEST RUSSELL PLACE. 
          AND ON ITEM 24, UH, 25 11 NORTH FLORES, UH, I SUPPORT LANDMARK DESIGNATION FOR 25 11 NORTH FLOOR STREET. 
          THIS TWO STORY STRUCTURE BUILT CIRCA 1911 HAS ALWAYS BEEN A MULTI-FAMILY STRUCTURE USED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          THIS STRUCTURE IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE FOUR SQUARE HOUSE TYPE. 
          THIS TYPE IS INDICATIVE OF THE SECOND PHASE OF DEVELOPMENT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND REFLECTS ALTA VISTA'S HISTORY AND WAS APPROVED FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATION AT THE APRIL 4TH, 2018 H D R C COMMISSION. 
          IN THE LAST DECADE, I HAVE WITNESSED THE RESTORATION OF SEVERAL HOMES IN BUSINESSES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURES HAVE BEEN PRESERVED. 
          ALTA VISTA'S ARCHITECTURAL MIX IS REFLECTED ON FLORIS STREET WITH THE RECENT RESTORATION OF OUTLAW KITCHENS, Z D A ARCHITECTURE FIRM AND THE FIRESTONE GAS STATION. 
          ALL THESE RESTORATIONS HAVE PRESERVED THE ARCHITECTURAL INTEGRITY OF THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURES. 
          UH, FLORIST STREET SERVES AS A GATEWAY TO SAN PEDRO SPRINGS PARK. 
          RECENT ENHANCEMENT TO THIS NATIONAL REGISTER LANDMARK HAVE INCREASED THE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC ON FLORIST STREET. 
          THIS SINGLE STORY AND TWO STORY, THE SINGLE STORY AND TWO STORY STRUCTURES ON FLOORS MAKE IT A PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY STREET LEADING INTO THE PARK. 
          THIS UNIQUE LOCATION SUPPORTS THE ADDITIONAL CRITERIA FOR HISTORIC DESIGNATION. 
          PLEASE APPROVE INITIATING A LANDMARK DESIGNATION FOR 25 11 NORTH FLORISTS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MS. BAILEY. 
          THERESA N NINO, FOLLOWED BY CHERYL DOZIER. 
          GOOD MORNING, HONORABLE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          UH, MY NAME IS TERESA NINO. 
          I AM A RESIDENT OF ALTA VISTA AND HAVE BEEN LIVING THERE SINCE 1997. 
          I RAISED MY CHILDREN IN THAT HOUSE AND MY HOUSE IS 94 YEARS OLD. 
          I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE MY PARENTS AS NEIGHBORS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME, AND THEIR HOUSE WAS BUILT IN THE SIXTIES. 
          I CURRENTLY SERVE ON THE ALTA VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, AND I, ALONG WITH ABOUT 12 OF MY NEIGHBORS, UH, MANY OF THEM ARE HERE TODAY, VOLUNTEERED LAST YEAR TO UPDATE THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICT GUIDELINES. 
          ALL THIS TO SAY THAT I CARED DEEPLY ABOUT MY NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          I APPLIED FOR 
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HISTORIC DESIGNATION FOR 800 WEST RUSSELL AND 25 11 NORTH FLOTIS. 
          WHEN I HEARD THAT THERE WERE PLANS TO DEMOLISH THEM THESE HOMES, AND THAT BLOCK IN PARTICULAR REMAINED THE MAIN STREET OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          HISTORICALLY, IT WAS THE MAIN STREET WITH MULE DRAWN TROLLEYS BACK IN THE 1880S, AND THEN LATER BECAME ELECTRIFIED AND STOPPED AT NORTH FLORES AND HOLLYWOOD A LITTLE FURTHER NORTH IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          NORTH FLOS WAS A STREETCAR SUBURB, AND THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLES REPRESENT THE MODERNIZATION OF DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION METHODS. 
          IT'S ALSO THE GET THE GATEWAY TO SAN PEDRO SPRINGS PARK, WHICH WE ALSO STRIVE TO PRESERVE. 
          IF THESE HOUSES ARE DESTROYED, THE CITY WOULD BE ALLOWING THE DEMOLITION OF A VERY UNIQUE BLOCK THAT SHOWS THE LAYERS OF HISTORY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          IN ALLOWING THE PROCESS TO CONTINUE, WE WOULD BE LIVING UP TO ESSAY TOMORROW'S PLAN, WHICH STATES THAT THE NUMBER ONE GOAL FOR SAN ANTONIO IS TO PRESERVE THE CHARACTER AND INTEGRITY OF OUR SAN ANTONIO NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          I THANK COUNCILMAN VINNO FOR STANDING BY OUR SIDE, REPRESENTING OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND FACILITATING MEETINGS BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THE DEVELOPERS. 
          HE IS CREATING WHAT COULD BE A MODEL FOR THE WAY THAT DEVELOPERS WORK WITH OUR SAN ANTONIO COMMUNITIES. 
          I'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK ALL THE NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE, UH, SHOWN UP TODAY TO, UM, TO HELP IN THIS CASE. 
          UH, THEY HAVE BEEN WITH US THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. 
          IT'S BEEN A VERY LONG PROCESS AND, UM, AND I APPRECIATE THEIR PRESENCE. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU, MS. NINO. 
          CHERYL DOZIER, FOLLOWED BY DAVID BOGLE. 
          GOOD MORNING MAYOR. 
          COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          UH, I AM RETIRED AIR FORCE. 
          I, UNFORTUNATELY, I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE BOOTS, OTHERWISE I WOULD'VE BROUGHT THEM. 
          UH, AND WHEN I RETIRED FROM THE AIR FORCE IN 2006, I MOVED TO SAN ANTONIO TO FINALLY SETTLE DOWN. 
          I DIDN'T HAVE MUCH KNOWLEDGE OF THE CITY, SO I INITIALLY ENDED UP IN SHIRTS BECAUSE IT WAS NEAR RANDOLPH AND FRIENDS. 
          BUT IT RAPIDLY BECAME CLEAR TO ME THAT THAT WAS NOT A GOOD FIT FOR ME AND MY FAMILY. 
          SO WE STARTED LOOKING AROUND FOR, UH, ANOTHER HOUSE. 
          AND MEMBERS OF MY FAMILY HAVE OVER THE YEARS, UH, LIVED IN THE TOBIN HILL ALTAVESTA NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          SO THAT WAS A NATURAL PLACE FOR US TO START LOOKING. 
          AND WE FOUND A 1923 BUNGALOW THAT WE, UH, THAT WAS JUST PERFECT FOR US. 
          AND, AND WE JOINED A COMMUNITY, AN AMAZING COMMUNITY. 
          UM, IT WASN'T UNTIL WE MOVED IN THAT I BEGAN TO FULLY APPRECIATE THE HISTORY AND CHARACTER OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          UH, WE ARE COMMITTED TO PRESERVING THE STRUCTURES THAT GIVE ALTA VISTA ITS CHARACTER. 
          THAT IS THE REASON I JOINED THE COMMITTEE TO UPDATE THE ALTAVISTA NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICT DESIGN STANDARDS. 
          AND I REALLY APPRECIATED THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE INPUT TO THAT SUCCESSFUL EFFORT. 
          AND I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT, UH, WE CAN FIND A WAY FORWARD FOR, UH, THESE TWO STRUCTURES THAT WILL MEET THE NEEDS OF BOTH THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE DEVELOPERS. 
          AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HELPING FRAME OUR PORTION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN SUPPORT OF THE ESSAY TOMORROW PLANNING EFFORT. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU, MS. DOZIER. 
          DAVID BOGLE, FOLLOWED BY STEPHANIE GOLDEN. 
          GOOD. 
          GOOD, GOOD MORNING. 
          I'M DAVID BOGLE, 7 23 WEST FRINGE PLACE. 
          I'M HERE FOR BOTH ITEMS 23 AND 24, AND I'M HERE TO, UH, READ LETTERS FROM THE ALTA VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. 
          I'M A TECHNICAL COMMITTEE MEMBER FOR THE ASSOCIATION. 
          HAVE BEEN ASKED TO READ THESE LETTERS FOR ITEM 23, UH, 800 WEST RUSSELL. 
          THIS WAS A LETTER SUBMITTED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AT, AT H D R C COMMISSION. 
          DEAR COMMISSION IN THE ALT VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION REPRESENTS A COMMUNITY OF OVER 1400 RESIDENTS, WHICH IS LOCATED ADJACENT TO SAN PEDRO SPRINGS PARK. 
          AT OUR GENERAL MEMBERSHIP MEETING ON MARCH 28TH, 2018, MEMBERS OF THE ASSOCIATION INDICATED SUPPORT FOR THE REQUEST FOR THE REVIEW OF HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE OF 800 WEST RUSSELL, AND DIRECTED THE A V AND A BOARD TO WRITE A STATEMENT IN SUPPORT OF THEIR REQUEST. 
          A V AND A AGREES WITH THE O H P STAFF RECOMMENDATION THAT THE PROPERTY IS ELIGIBLE BASED ON CRITERIA ONE SEVEN AND 13. 
          THE PROPERTY LOCATED A PROMINENT CORNER OF THE HEART OF ALT VISTA, IS A VISIBLE REMINDER OF ALT VISTA'S HISTORY. 
          ITS ARCHITECTURAL FORM, ITS UNIQUE LOCATION, AND ITS AGE OVER 100 YEARS MAKES THE PROPERTY AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE COMMUNITY. 
          ADDITIONALLY, IT TELLS A WONDERFUL STORY OF AN ALTAVISTA CHARACTER WHO KNEW ABRAHAM LINCOLN, WHO PROVIDED SIGNIFICANT FUNDING TO BRING STREETCAR SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY, AND WHO DONATED IMPORTANT HISTORICAL ARTWORK TO THE WITTY MUSEUM. 
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THIS EMBODIES THE CHARACTERISTIC OF THE ALTAVISTA COMMUNITY DEDICATED TO HISTORY, GENEROSITY, AND PUBLIC SERVICE. 
          WE URGE YOU TO HELP PRESERVE BOTH THE TANGIBLE AND INTANGIBLE STORY THE STRUCTURE TELLS. 
          UH, FOR ITEM 24, THIS WAS A LETTER, UH, PREPARED BY THE ALTA VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. 
          FOR TODAY, THE BOARD ASKED YOU TO PLEASE ALLOW THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION PROCESS FOR THESE TWO PROPERTIES TO CONTINUE. 
          WE HAVE HEARD VIRTUALLY UNANIMOUS CONSENT FROM OUR ALT VISTA NEIGHBORS, THAT THESE TWO RESIDENTS HAVE GREAT MEANING TO THEM, TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND TO OUR SHARED HISTORY. 
          ALTA VISTA RESIDENTS, INCLUDING THOSE WHO ARE PROFESSIONAL ARCHITECTS AND URBAN PLANNERS, CLEARLY LAID OUT THE HISTORIC SIGNIFICANT OF THESE TWO HOMES TO THE HISTORIC DESIGN REVIEW COMMISSION, PROVIDING EXPERT TESTIMONY THAT CONVINCED THE COMMISSIONERS BOTH PROPERTIES ARE ELIGIBLE. 
          WE ALL LEARNED HISTORIC SIGNIFICANT ISN'T ALWAYS ABOUT GRAND AND KING WILLIAM AND MONTE VISTA STYLE ARCHITECTURE IS ALSO ABOUT DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS AND SOCIAL HERITAGE. 
          WE ARE ENCOURAGED BY THE SUPPORT GIVEN US BY THE SAN ANTONIO CONSERVATION SOCIETY, THE SAN ANTONIO CHAPTER OF THE AMERICAN INSTITUTE OF ARCHITECTS. 
          THESE ARE TWO ORGANIZATIONS THAT DID NOT TAKE HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE SLIGHTLY CLEARLY. 
          THESE TWO BUILDINGS ARE HISTORIC AND MUST BE PRESERVED AT THE SAME TIME. 
          ALTA VISTA RECOGNIZES THAT THE PROPERTIES HAVE POTENTIAL FOR SENSITIVE COMPATIBLE REDEVELOPMENT. 
          WE THANK COUNCILMAN TREVINO FOR BRINGING US TOGETHER WITH THE DEVELOPER THAT HAS OPENED THE DOOR TO FINDING A SOLUTION THAT CAN SERVE AS A MODEL FOR THE ENTIRE CITY. 
          WE'RE COMMITTED TO THAT VISION BY ALLOWING THE PROCESS TO CONTINUE. 
          WE WILL AFFORD US THE TIME NEEDED TO FIND THAT MODEL SOLUTION. 
          WE WERE ALARMED BY THE DEVELOPER'S STATEMENT THAT, DO I NEED TO GO? IF YOU CAN WRAP UP. 
          GO AHEAD, DEB. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ALTA VISTA HAS A PROVEN TRACK RECORD IN OUR DECISION TO PURSUE OR NOT PURSUE HISTORIC DESIGNATION. 
          WE'RE NOT A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT USES DESIGNATION AS A MEANS TO STOP DEVELOPMENT. 
          WE SIMPLY DO NOT WANNA LOSE OUR HISTORIC PROPERTIES, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH GOAL NUMBER ONE OF THE SA TOMORROW PLAN. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU MR. BOGLE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          STEPHANIE BOG. 
          EXCUSE ME. 
          STEPHANIE GOLDEN, FOLLOWED BY LISA GOLDEN. 
          HI, I'M STEPHANIE GOLDEN. 
          MY MOM AND I OWN THE PROPERTIES AT NORTH FLORES AND WEST RUSSELL. 
          WE STRONGLY OPPOSE THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION ON THE PROPERTIES. 
          THAT BEING SAID, WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO WORK WITH COUNCILMAN TRIVINIA IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO REDEVELOP THESE SITES THAT FIT WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MS. GOLDEN. 
          IS LISA GOLDEN HERE? OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          JACK FINGER. 
          WELL, MAYOR NURENBERG AND OTHER MEMBERS OF OUR ILLUSTRIOUS SAN ANTONIO CITY COUNCIL. 
          FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS JACK M. 
          FINGER, THIS PORTION OF THE AGENDA, THERE ARE VARIOUS ITEMS I WISH TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION. 
          YES. 
          THE, UH, NOT DEALING WITH, UH, THE ONES DEALING WITH THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION, BUT, UH, JUST AS IMPORTANT. 
          UH, ITEM NUMBER 17, YOU'RE GOING TO DO SOME REFORMS REGARDING INFIELD DEVELOPMENT. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHERE MR. TREO WENT, BUT THIS IS ONE OF HIS BABIES HERE. 
          YEAH, I'M JUST GONNA SAY THAT ACTUALLY THIS IS ACTUALLY A PRETTY DECENT IDEA TO REFORMING THE IN INFIELD DEVELOPMENT, UH, CONTROVERSY. 
          BECAUSE YOU, THE IDEA IS THAT, UH, INFIELD DEVELOPMENT WAS USED TO PLACE THINGS IN, INTO VACANT LOTS AND, AND OTHER SIMPLE SITUATIONS WHERE WHEREBY IT JUST SEEMED TO FIT WELL. 
          BUT UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S BEEN ABUSED OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS AND YEARS HERE. 
          AND THIS ATTEMPTS TO REFORM IT. 
          UH, THE IDEA IS THAT WELL, MAYBE IT, UH, WE'LL DO THAT. 
          BUT IT ALL DEPENDS ON, ONCE AGAIN, THE PEOPLE, THE KIND OF THE CALIBER OF THE PERSON SITTING IN YOUR SEATS. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          YOUR SEATS AND THE PEOPLE YOU APPOINT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION INTO THE ZONING COMMISSION. 
          WILL THEY INTERPRET IT PROPERLY SO THAT PEOPLE DON'T GET SHOEHORNED INTO, UH, THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS? OR, OR WILL THEY JUST DO THE BUSINESS AS USUAL? IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHAT, HOW YOU HANDLE THIS. 
          UH, ITEM NUMBER 20, LEMME PUT THIS MR. AUDIOVISUAL MAN. 
          YES. 
          UH, A GIVEAWAY. 
          YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. 
          THAT'S WHAT I CALL IT. 
          UM, ON THE WEST SIDE, ZAZA, MORRIS STREET, MS. GONZALEZ, THAT'S IN YOUR DISTRICT. 
          AND THE IDEA IS TO PUT SOME DEVELOPMENT ON ZAZA MORRIS STREET. 
          BUT I NOTICE THAT MR. AUDIO VISUAL MAN, BLOW THAT UP IF YOU WOULD. 
          THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS. 
          THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING A FIVE YEAR FORGIVABLE DEVELOPMENT LOAN. 
          YEAH. 
          FORGIVABLE DEVELOPMENT LOAN IN THE AMOUNT OF 252,000. 
          THAT'S A QUARTER OF A MILLION BUCKS THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          THE LOAN WILL BE 
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FORGIVEN, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. 
          WHAT, UH, RETURN THE CAMERA, IF YOU WOULD, TO THE, TO THE PODIUM HERE? YEAH. 
          I MEAN, CAN YOU, AS AN AG PRIVATE ASSISTANT, CAN YOU GET A FORGIVABLE LOAN FROM THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO? HUH? I, I'M SORRY, FOLKS. 
          UH, MAYBE, UH, I'M MISSING SOMETHING HERE. 
          UH, QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS FORGI. 
          WHY DON'T YOU JUST MAKE IT A GRANT? HUH? DON'T, DON'T MISS THE WORDS HERE. 
          UM, LET'S SEE. 
          HOWEVER, IF YOU CAN, IF YOU, THE CITIZEN CAN FORGIVE THE CITY COUNCIL FOR ITEM NUMBER 21. 
          IT'S A, UM, A CONTRACT WITH THE, WITH WITH BLAIR GA GOGGINS, ET CETERA. 
          AND, BUT THE SHAREHOLDERS OF THAT COMPANY HAVE GIVEN EACH ONE OF YOU'S CAMPAIGN FINANCE CONTRIBUTIONS. 
          YES. 
          RANGING FROM 6,000 TO THE MAYOR TO, WELL, ACTUALLY, MR. BROCK HOUSE, YOU ACTUALLY GOT SOMETHING THIS TIME. 
          YES. 
          . 
          THE ONLY ONE WHO DIDN'T GET ANYTHING WAS MR. JOHN CROZIER. 
          WELL, UH, DON'T WORRY, MR. ZIZI, YOU'LL GET, I'M, YOU, YOU NEED TO GET, GET TO THESE, THAT DUMB COMPANY, BECAUSE WHAT IF ALL THESE PEOPLE ABSTAIN FROM THIS LIKE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO? THANK YOU, MR. FINGER. 
          . 
          JUDITH URA. 
          URA. 
          SORRY IF I'M MISPRONOUNCING THAT MS. URA WILL BE FOLLOWED BY RUDY VIEL. 
          GOOD MORNING MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          MY NAME IS JUDITH RA AND I HAVE LIVED IN ALTA VISTA FOR THE LAST PAST 25 YEARS. 
          UM, I'M GOING TO SPEAK OF ITEM 23, 800 WEST RUSSELL. 
          UM, MY FAMILY AND MY NEIGHBORS ARE IN SUPPORT OF HISTORICAL DESIGNATION FOR 800 WEST RUSSELL. 
          ON THE AGENDA TODAY, THERE HAVE BEEN NUMEROUS NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS TO PRESENT FACTS AND DISCUSS ARCHITECTURAL INFORMATION TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENCE WITH RESPECT TO THIS PROPERTY AND EVERYTHING, INCLUDING THE CONCLUSIONS REACHED BY STAFF AND BOARD SUPPORT. 
          AND THE BOARD SUPPORTS GRANTING HISTORICAL STATUS TO 800 WEST RUSSELL. 
          YOU WILL HEAR OR HAVE HEARD ABOUT HOW 800 WEST RUSSELL IS IN A TRANSITIONAL ZONE AND OTHER IMPORTANT HISTORICAL FACTS. 
          AND WE ARE IN AGREEMENT IN SUPPORT TO THE ALTA VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND OTHERS IN ASKING YOUR APPROVAL TO PROCEED WITH GRANTING HISTORICAL STATUS TO THIS PROPERTY. 
          ITEM 24 25 11 FLORES. 
          UH, WE CHOSE ALTA VISTA FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S CHARACTER AND FEEL. 
          WHAT MAKES ALTA VISTA DESIRABLE IS THE FACT THAT IT'S AN URBAN COMMUNITY SPRINKLE WITH VERY DETAILED HISTORICAL HOMES. 
          IN PARTICULAR, THIS PROPERTY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY, 2 25 11 NORTH FLORES. 
          THIS HOME REPRESENTS THE ARCHITECTURE OF ITS TIME, WHICH SPELLS OUT THE HISTORY OF HOW SAN ANTONIO WAS EVOLVING AT THE TIME. 
          ACROSS THE STREET FROM SAN PEDRO PARK, YOU HAVE WHAT WE CALL MANSIONS. 
          AND THIS HOME HAD LOTS OF PROPERTY AROUND THEM. 
          AS THE CITY GREW DECADES LATER, ANOTHER STYLE OF HOMES WAS BUILT AROUND THEM. 
          AND AS YOU GO DOWN, FLORES, THE GATEWAY TO SAN PEDRO SPRINGS PARK, YOU CAN LITERALLY SEE CHANGE. 
          YOU CAN LITERALLY SEE THE CHANGE IN TIME. 
          THESE HOMES HAVE ALREADY BEEN DEEMED TO HAVE HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE BY YOUR OWN HISTORIC DESIGN AND REVIEW COMMISSION, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THIS OLD NEIGHBORHOODS, I FEEL LIKE THEY'RE THE SOUL OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          PLEASE LET THE DESIGNATION AND PROCESS CONTINUE AND HELP US SAVE OUR HISTORY. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH, ESPECIALLY TO, UH, COUNCILMAN TRAVINO FOR ALL THE HARD WORK AND ALL THE MEMBERS WHO ARE COMMITTED TO THIS MAKING THIS CITY. 
          WONDERFUL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MS. GURA. 
          RUDY VIAL. 
          IS MR. VIAL HERE? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S EVERYONE WHO SIGNED UP FOR ITEMS REMAINING ON CONSENT. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF THE, THERE WAS, THERE WAS A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VINNO AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN COURAGE. 
          THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          THAT'S ALL ITEMS SAVED FOR 10 11, 17, 20 25, 
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AND 26. 
          PLEASE VOTE. 
          MOTION CARRIES ITEM NUMBER FOUR. 
          ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 16 AND CHAPTER 35 OF THE SAN ANTONIO CITY CODE RELATED TO SHORT, SHORT-TERM RENTALS, ESTABLISHING FEES, AND PROVIDING FOR PUBLICATION. 
          GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          UM, SO TODAY WE'RE GONNA TALK, UH, ONCE AGAIN ABOUT SHORT-TERM RENTALS, UH, WITH THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE. 
          AND I'LL GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, UH, AGAIN, WHAT, UM, HOW WE GOT HERE. 
          AND I HAVE A PRESENTATION. 
          UH, THERE WE GO. 
          SO, SO I THINK, AS WE ALL KNOW, UH, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW, BUT FOR THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF, UM, CITY STAFF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, UH, OTHER DEPARTMENTS HAVE BEEN WORKING, UH, TO UNDERSTAND SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          UH, I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT THE SHARING ECONOMY, UM, IS GROWING EXPONENTIALLY, WHETHER IT'S THE UBER, LYFT, WHICH WE'VE ALREADY TACKLED AS A COMMUNITY, UM, BUT THE HOMEAWAY AIRBNB V R B O, UH, SITUATION. 
          SO, UH, WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THAT, UH, EVER SINCE, UH, THE C C R THAT CAME OUT IN FEBRUARY, 2017. 
          UH, FORMER COUNCILMAN, UH, MIKE GRAT CITY TO LOOK AT, UM, SHORT TERM RENTALS, UH, AND, AND REALLY LOOK AT FIVE DISTINCT THINGS. 
          SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING, UH, WITH THE TASK FORCE, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT. 
          BUT WE WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT, UH, ON PROPERTY VALUES SAFETY. 
          UM, WE WANTED TO REVIEW OUR CURRENT CODES AND ORDINANCES, UH, UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX, THAT, HOW THAT, UH, INTERACTS WITH SHORT-TERM RENTALS. 
          UH, SHOULD WE, UH, DEVELOP SOME OPTIONS FOR REGISTERING, PERMITTING, AND JUST REALLY OVER OVERSEEING, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY CONSIDERATIONS. 
          SO, UM, WHAT WE DID, UH, FOR, UH, THE FIRST PART OF, UH, THE PROCESS WAS TO REALLY DO A LOT OF RESEARCH. 
          WHAT'S GOING ON? UH, AS YOU ALL KNOW, THIS IS NOT JUST THE SAN ANTONIO THING OR A TEXAS THING. 
          UH, THIS IS NATIONALLY AND INTERNATIONALLY. 
          UH, THE HOME SHARING ECONOMY, UM, IS, IS REALLY EXPLODING. 
          UM, WE LOOKED AT A LOT OF STUDIES, UM, THAT, THAT ARE PUBLISHED OUT THERE. 
          UH, CORNELL WILLIAMS, M I T HAVE SOME PUBLISHED DATA. 
          UM, WHAT THEY'VE CONCLUDED IS THAT, AND, AND NONE OF THAT WAS REALLY FOR SAN ANTONIO, UH, BUT JUST GENERALLY THEY'VE CONCLUDED THAT SHORT TERM RENTALS, THEY DON'T DECREASE, UH, PROPERTY VALUES. 
          UH, THEY ACTUALLY MAINTAIN OR SLIGHTLY INCREASE PROPERTY VALUES IN AN AREA. 
          UH, AND THAT WAS DEBATED THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. 
          WE LOOKED AT SOME SAFETY STATISTICS IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          UM, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS, I THINK SEVERAL TIMES. 
          RIGHT NOW. 
          WE KNOW OF ABOUT, UH, 400 SHORT TERM RENTALS, UH, THAT ARE ALREADY REGISTERED WITH OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT PAYING THE, THE HOT TAX. 
          AND THAT'S THE ONLY THING THEY NEED TO DO RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, BUT WE LOOKED AT THOSE 400, UH, UNITS. 
          THERE'S NO MEASURABLE, UH, DIFFERENCE IN SAFETY, WHETHER IT BE SS A P D OR, UH, CODE DATA THAT WOULD SUGGEST THAT THERE'S ANY, UH, UH, SIGNIFICANCE. 
          BUT AGAIN, THAT'S A SMALL SAMPLING OF DATA. 
          UM, BUT, UH, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE'LL CONTINUE TO MONITOR. 
          WE ALSO LOOKED AT SEVERAL, SEVERAL OTHER, UH, CITIES AND STATES AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT ARE THEY DOING, UH, TO REGULATE? THERE ARE A LOT OF CITIES OUT THERE THAT HAVE PROPOSED, UH, THAT HAVE ALREADY ADOPTED, UH, SHORT TERM RENTAL REGULATIONS. 
          BUT THE KEY THERE IS THERE IS NO, UH, OFF THE SHELF BEST PRACTICE, UM, THAT WE COULD HAVE JUST COPIED. 
          UH, THEY, THEY VARY WIDELY IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING, AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE DEVELOPED LOCALLY. 
          AND THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S THE GOOD THING, IS THAT'RE DEVELOPING THINGS THAT ARE RIGHT FOR, FOR THEIR COMMUNITY. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE. 
          SO, UH, AS YOU KNOW, AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS, UM, A MONTH, UH, A FEW WEEKS BACK AT THE, AT OUR B SESSION, WE WORKED FOR, UH, UH, OVER A YEAR, UH, WITH A TASK FORCE. 
          WE GATHERED A BUNCH OF PEOPLE TOGETHER, UH, A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WERE CONCERNED THAT MAYBE THESE WERE HURTING THE NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          UH, AND THEY NEEDED SOME PROTECTION, UH, AGAINST, ESPECIALLY WHAT WE'RE GONNA CALL TYPE TWO SHORT-TERM RENTALS. 
          WE GOT A LOT OF THE SHORT-TERM OPERATORS THAT WERE DOING THIS IN A ROOM, UH, AS WELL AS, UH, AIRBNB, SOME REAL ESTATE COMMUNITY, UH, TO KIND OF HASH THIS OUT. 
          SO IT TOOK A LONG TIME. 
          WE DID A LOT OF MEETINGS, UH, TO TRY TO, TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE COULD AND SHOULD DO. 
          UH, SO THROUGH THAT PROCESS, WE DEVELOPED, UH, SOMEWHAT OF A CONSENSUS. 
          UM, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, UH, NO ONE IS A HUNDRED PERCENT PLEASED WITH, UH, EITHER, UH, ONE OF, UH, UH, THIS, THE OPTIONS, UH, TO DO THIS. 
          UH, BUT WE DID GO THROUGH BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. 
          UH, WE DID GO THROUGH THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND EQUITY COMMITTEE EARLIER THIS YEAR. 
          AND IF YOU REMEMBER, IN APRIL, WE PRESENTED, UH, WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS A BALANCED ORDINANCE, UM, IN, UH, IN APRIL TO THE B SESSION. 
          UH, BUT WHAT WE LEARNED FROM THAT, AND A LOT OF THE COMMENTS BACK FROM, FROM YOU ALL WAS, HEY, GO BACK AND KEEP WORKING ON IT. 
          'CAUSE THERE WERE A LOT OF ISSUES THAT STILL NEEDED TO BE ADDRESSED. 
          SO WE DID THAT OVER THE SUMMER. 
          WE WENT BACK TO GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE, HELD ADDITIONAL MEETINGS WITH TASK FORCE GENERAL PUBLIC, 
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AND WENT BACK TO B SESSION EARLIER. 
          UM, WELL LAST MONTH, OCTOBER. 
          UH, AND WITH THAT, WE NOW HAVE A PROPOSED BALANCE ORDINANCE THAT, UH, IS GONNA LOOK LIKE THIS. 
          SO I'LL JUST TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE GENERAL PROVISIONS. 
          UH, SHORT TERM RENTALS WOULD HAVE TO REGISTER AND PERMIT THROUGH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. 
          UM, AND THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF SHORT TERM RENTALS. 
          AS WE ALL KNOW. 
          TYPE ONE AND TYPE TWO, UH, TYPE ONE ARE OWNER OCCUPIED. 
          UM, WHEN THE OWNER LIVES ON THE PROPERTY AND RENTS OUT A ROOM OR A, UH, GRANNY FLAT OR ANOTHER, ANOTHER, UH, A DWELLING UNIT ON THEIR PROPERTY, THOSE WOULD BE ALLOWED BY WRIGHT IN RESIDENTIAL, UH, AND COMMERCIAL TYPE TWO, WHICH ARE THE NON-OWNER OCCUPY, WHICH A LOT OF THE CONCERNS WERE RAISED BY THE TASK FORCE, UH, MEMBERS THAT, THAT BROUGHT THAT UP. 
          THAT WAS WHERE, UH, MOST OF THE ISSUES AND DEBATE WAS, WAS HAPPENING. 
          UM, SO OUR PROPOSED ORDINANCE, SO, UH, SAYS THAT THEY'RE ALLOWED BY RIGHT UP TO SOME DENSITY LIMITS, MEANING, UH, AT, AT A CERTAIN POINT INSIDE A NEIGHBORHOOD OR AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, UH, MAYBE THERE'S TOO MANY. 
          AND THAT WOULD PUT A LOT OF PRESSURE ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          SO WE WE'RE GONNA SET A DENSITY LIMIT OF, UH, IT'S ACTUALLY 12.5% OR ONE EIGHTH. 
          AND, UH, AND THEN AFTER THAT, YOU CAN STILL GET ADDITIONAL UNITS IF YOU GO THROUGH THE B O A PROCESS, BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT PROCESS TO GET A SPECIAL EXCEPTION. 
          SO THAT WAS SOMETHING WE'VE DISCUSSED OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS. 
          SO, JUST TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE DENSITY AND SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS, AGAIN, WE'LL, WE'LL GO TO RIGHT TO TYPE TWO. 
          SO, AGAIN, ALLOWED BY, RIGHT. 
          IN MOST DISTRICTS, THE DENSITY LIMITATIONS ARE, SO IF I'M IN A NEIGHBORHOOD OR A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, UH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ONE EIGHTH OR 12.5% OF THE BLOCK FACE, YOU'RE ALLOWED BY RIGHT, TO HAVE TYPE TWOS. 
          AFTER THAT, AGAIN, YOU WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED BY, RIGHT? YOU'D EITHER HAVE TO CHOOSE ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD OR ANOTHER BLOCK, UH, OR YOU WOULD GO TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND YOU WOULD PLEAD YOUR CASE SAYING, I AM GOOD FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          I WILL NOT IMPACT THE OVERALL CHARACTER, OR WHATEVER THAT IS. 
          AND YOU WOULD HAVE TO GET A SPECIAL EXCEPTION. 
          AND THE MULTIFAMILY CONCEPT CAME UP KIND OF LATE IN THE GAME, UH, AROUND, UH, FEBRUARY, APRIL, THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION AT THE B SESSION IN APRIL. 
          UH, HOW ARE WE GONNA HANDLE, YOU KNOW, SHORT-TERM RENTALS COMING INTO APARTMENT BUILDINGS OR CONDO BUILDINGS? AND, UH, ORIGINALLY THERE WAS JUST A SPACING REQUIREMENT. 
          WE WENT BACK TO THE TABLE AND WE SAID, UM, HEY, THE CONCERN IS THAT MAYBE SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE TAKING NOT JUST HOUSING STOCK WITHIN A NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH WAS THE KEY PRIORITY, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, APARTMENTS AS WELL. 
          THOSE ARE LIVING UNITS. 
          SO WE ESTABLISHED, UH, WE'RE PROPOSING THIS, UH, DENSITY LIMIT 12.5% BY RIGHT OF TYPE TWOS INSIDE A MULTI-FAMILY BUILDING. 
          UM, AND THEN AFTER THAT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO SEEK A B O A EXCEPTION. 
          AND AGAIN, THE KEY THERE WOULD BE WE'RE PROPOSING, UH, THAT MULTIFAMILY BUILDING IS NO MATTER WHAT THE, THE, THE, UH, THE ZONING DISTRICT IS BECAUSE WE KNOW, UH, APARTMENT BUILDINGS AND CONDO BUILDINGS CAN BE A MULTITUDE OF, OF, UH, ZONING DISTRICTS. 
          UH, WE DID CLARIFY THAT BED AND BREAKFAST WERE ALSO INCLUDED IN THIS, UH, UH, DENSITY CALCULATION. 
          UH, WE ALSO HAD TO WORK ON, UH, SEVERAL MULTI-UNIT CLARIFICATIONS. 
          WELL, WHAT IF I HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, A GRANNY FLAT? WHAT IF I OWN A TRIPLEX? THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. 
          SO WE ADDED SOME ADDITIONAL CLARIFICATION OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS INTO THE ORDINANCE. 
          UH, EACH INDIVIDUAL DWELLING UNIT DOES REQUIRE A PERMIT. 
          UH, IF YOU HAVE AN ADDITIONAL, UH, DWELLING UNIT, UH, UH, ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT ON YOUR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, THAT'S A TYPE ONE. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? IT WOULD BE A TYPE TWO, UH, MULTIFAMILY UNITS UNDER CON, COMMON OWNERSHIP, AGAIN, WE DEFINE THE TYPE ONE FOR THE FIRST UNITS, AND THEN AFTER THAT WOULD BE TYPE TWO. 
          SO THERE'S A LOT OF SCENARIOS THAT WE THINK, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL RUN INTO. 
          AND WE HAD TO CLARIFY THAT IN THE ORDINANCE. 
          SO SOME OTHER KEY PROVISIONS, UH, THAT WE ADDED, UM, TO THE, THE ORDINANCE. 
          ORIGINALLY WE WERE THINKING OF DOING CITY INSPECTIONS FOR EVERY SINGLE ONE UPFRONT. 
          THERE WAS SOME CONCERN THAT, ONE, IT WASN'T NEEDED, OR TWO, IT MIGHT BE TOO ONEROUS ON THE OWNER, UH, OR OPERATOR. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA ALLOW A SELF-CERTIFICATION IN LIEU OF INITIAL CITY INSPECTION, WE WILL REACT TO ANY COMPLAINTS, UM, THAT COME IN WITH OUR BUILDING INSPECTORS OR CODE OFFICERS. 
          UH, WE ALSO VERIFY THIS IS DONE IN SOME OTHER CITIES AND IT'S WORKING WELL THERE. 
          UH, SO IT'S KIND OF HELPS US KEEP THE COST DOWN AS WELL AS WORK WITH THE OPERATOR ON, UH, SOME OF THESE KEY, UH, EASY SAFETY ISSUES. 
          WE REDUCED FEES FROM THE ORIGINAL. 
          THE ORIGINAL FEE WAS GONNA BE $200 INITIAL REGISTRATION, AND THEN A HUNDRED DOLLARS RENEWAL EVERY THREE YEAR. 
          BASED ON SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT AT THE ORIGINAL B SESSION. 
          APRIL, UH, WE WORKED TO REDUCE THAT TO $100 INITIAL. 
          AND THEN THE RENEWAL, UH, THAT, UH, AGAIN, WITHOUT AS MANY INSPECTORS AND STUFF LIKE THAT WITH THE SELF-CERTIFICATION, THAT WAS DOABLE. 
          UH, WE ALSO ADDED SOME LANGUAGE ON CITY HOUSING IN INCENTIVES. 
          THE CONCERN THAT, UH, WE, WE ADDRESSED AND TACKLED WAS, UH, IF WE'RE GIVING CITY HOUSING INCENTIVES THROUGH SOME OF OUR PROGRAMS, WHETHER IT BE THE C CHIP OR WHAT USED TO BE THE ICRP NOW IS GONNA BE THE CITY FEE WAIVER SYSTEM. 
          UH, SHOULD THOSE BE ABLE TO BE TURNED INTO A SHORT-TERM RENTAL. 
          AND THE, UH, THE PROPOSAL IS NO. 
          SO WE'VE DEFINED CITY HOUSING INCENTIVES AND PROPERTIES WITH CITY HOUSING INCENTIVES WILL NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR HIS TYPE TWO S T R PERMIT. 
          AND OF COURSE, EVENTS AND 
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OTHER USES, THE QUOTE UNQUOTE PARTY HOUSES ARE NOT ALLOWED, UH, TO BE STRS. 
          SO SOME OTHER KEY ITEMS, UH, AGAIN, REGISTRATION WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. 
          WE WILL COORDINATE, UM, WITH THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, UH, ON, ON THE HOT TAX PAYMENT TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE SET UP OR PAYING THEIR HOT TAX, UH, HOT PAYMENT, UH, TO MAKE SURE THEY GET THEIR PERMIT. 
          UH, YOU'LL HAVE TO HAVE YOUR LIST OF, UH, EMERGENCY CONTACT, UH, 24 HOUR CONTACT INFORMATION. 
          IF THERE'S ANY ISSUES WITH YOUR SHORT-TERM RENTAL, THEY'LL ISSUE US A, A, A FLOOR PLAN SKETCH OR A SITE PLAN SKETCH SO WE CAN REVIEW THAT, MAKE SURE THERE'S PROPER EXITING AND STUFF. 
          UH, ONE OF THE KEY ITEMS DISCUSSED WAS EXISTING LEGAL TYPE TWO SHORT-TERM RENTALS. 
          SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE NO SHORT-TERM RENTAL REGISTRATION. 
          SO WE HAVE MANY OF THESE 400 OR SO OF THESE THROUGHOUT OUR CITY THAT ARE EXISTING AND LEGAL TODAY. 
          SO WHEN WE PASS THIS ORDINANCE, THEY WILL BE EXISTING AND LEGAL. 
          THEY WILL BE GRANDFATHERED FROM ESSENTIALLY THE DENSITY CLAUSE, THAT'S THE QUOTE UNQUOTE ZONING PIECE OF THE DENSITY CLAUSE MOVING. 
          THEY WILL STILL HAVE TO PERMIT, THEY WILL STILL HAVE TO, UH, FOLLOW THE RULES OF THE ORDINANCE, BUT THEY WILL BE EXEMPTED FOR THAT. 
          UM, AND, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S BASED ON STATE LAW, NON-CONFORMING RIGHTS AND STUFF. 
          SO THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED. 
          UH, AND IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR US TO PASS THIS ORDINANCE. 
          SO WHEN WE PASS IT, UM, THAT WILL KIND OF STOP THE GRANDFATHERING AND MOVING FORWARD, UH, ALL THE NEW ONES COME IN, WE'LL HAVE TO BE, UH, FOLLOWING ALL THOSE RULES, THERE'LL BE SOME INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS. 
          AND THEN THE ONE KEY PROVISION THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT, UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK IS IMPORTANT IS, IS THE BAD ACTOR. 
          SHORT-TERM RENTALS OUT THERE THAT SCARE EVERYBODY. 
          THERE'S SOME REAL ONES OUT THERE, THE PARTY HOUSES, OR THEY JUST, THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING GOOD FOR THEIR, THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD OR COMMUNITY. 
          UM, IF THERE IS, UH, ENFORCEMENT ACTION, IF I HAVE THREE OR MORE VIOLATIONS WITHIN SIX MONTHS, UH, I WILL REV REVOKE THEIR PERMIT AND THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT PERMIT FOR AT LEAST A YEAR. 
          UM, SO THAT WAS KIND OF KEY. 
          WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO REVOKE THE PERMIT FOR BAD ACTORS. 
          SO, IMPLEMENTING THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE, I TOUCHED BASE ON THAT A LITTLE BIT. 
          SO WE RECOMMEND TODAY PASSING THE ORDINANCE AS IS. 
          UH, IT WOULD BECOME EFFECTIVE, UH, IMMEDIATELY OR WITHIN 10 DAYS, DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF VOTES, IF IT PASSES, UH, AND THEN ABOUT 90 DAYS TO FORMALLY REGISTER. 
          SO THAT GIVES US TIME AS A CITY TO BUILD OUR, UM, WEBSITE SYSTEM SO THAT THEY CAN EASILY, UH, ENTER INTO THE HOT PAYMENT AS WELL AS THE PERMITTING PART. 
          SO I HAVE TROY, UH, ELLIOT, UH, AND CRAIG HOPKINS HERE. 
          UH, THEY CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT IF NEEDED. 
          UH, BUT IT WOULD BECOME EFFECTIVE, UH, UPON PASSING OF THE ORDINANCE. 
          UH, AND THAT, AGAIN, WOULD SET THE DATE FOR THE GRANDFATHERING. 
          SO AGAIN, WE'RE GONNA BUILD A WEBSITE, BE ACCESSIBLE FOR MOBILE DEVICES, UM, TO GET APPLICATION AND PAYMENT. 
          NOW, OUR LONG-TERM SOLUTION WILL BE TO PUT IT IN OUR NEW, UH, BUILDS SA SYSTEM, UH, THAT THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES IS, UH, IS BUILDING RIGHT NOW. 
          BUT, UM, WE WILL HAVE A SHORT TERM AND LONG TERM FOR THAT. 
          TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, THE HOT OR THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX. 
          OF COURSE, VERY EARLY ON WE VERIFIED THAT SHORT TERM RENTALS ARE REQUIRED TO TODAY BY STATE AND LOCAL LAW TO PAY THE HOT TAX. 
          MANY OF THEM ARE PAYING IT. 
          400 OR SO IS WHAT I, UH, AS WHAT WE HAVE AS OF THIS PAST WEEK. 
          UH, HOWEVER, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S PROBABLY, UH, 1500, 2000 OF THESE OUT THERE, AND THAT MEANS MANY OF THEM ARE NOT PAYING THE HOT, OKAY? SO THEY'RE NOT FOLLOWING THE RULES TODAY. 
          UH, BUT THIS WILL GIVE US A BETTER OPPORTUNITY TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH THAT, UM, UH, WITH THOSE OPERATORS, UH, THROUGH THE SYSTEM. 
          AND, UH, I WILL SAY THAT, UM, FINANCE HAS RELEASED AN R F P. 
          THEY'RE WORKING ON IT TO IDENTIFY, UH, UH, A THIRD PARTY, UH, COMPANY THAT WILL HELP IDENTIFY THESE, UH, STR THAT ARE QUOTE UNQUOTE OPERATING THE CITY OR MAYBE NOT, UH, LEGAL YET. 
          SO WE'LL FIND THEM, UH, WITH THAT, UH, COMPANY. 
          UH, THEY'LL HAVE ONLINE OPTIONS FOR PAYING THE HOT. 
          AND, UH, WE ANTICIPATE THAT'LL COME, UH, TO YOU ALL, UH, LATER THIS MONTH, UH, FOR, UH, SELECTION OF A VENDOR. 
          UH, AND THERE WERE SOME FUNDS, UH, ALLOCATED IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET FOR THAT THROUGH THE FINANCE, UH, UH, THE FINANCE BUDGET, UH, FOR BOTH THE THIRD PARTY AND SOME ADDITIONAL STAFF, UH, COMPLIANCE STAFF. 
          SO OUR RECOMMENDATION TODAY IS TO APPROVE THE PROPOSAL ORDINANCE AS, AS WE, UM, AS WE HAVE OUT THERE EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY, UH, UPON THE NUMBER OF VOTES, UH, GOES INTO EFFECT FOR REGISTERING THE REQUIRED REGISTERING, UH, IN, UH, EARLY FEBRUARY. 
          AND OF COURSE, I HAVE TO THANK, AND I, I KNOW MANY OF THEM ARE HERE TODAY. 
          THERE'S MANY TASK FORCE MEMBERS, UM, UH, UH, RESIDENTS, INDUSTRY, UH, FOLKS THAT HELPED US WITH THIS ORDINANCE OVER THE LAST 18 MONTHS. 
          SO I, I REALLY HAVE TO SAY THANKS AND OF COURSE, TO MY STAFF, UH, THAT REALLY LED THIS CHARGE. 
          SO, UH, WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, MIKE. 
          WE HAVE SEVERAL CITIZENS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR. 
          SO I'LL BEGIN, UH, CALLING THEIR NAMES IN ORDER. 
          I'LL CALL THE FIRST NAME READY TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK, AND I'LL CALL THE NEXT NAME IN LINE. 
          IF YOU CAN PREPARE, BE PREPARED TO COME FORWARD TO THE PODIUM. 
          WE'LL START WITH JIM SMITH. 
          IT'S JIM SMITH HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          TONY GARCIA. 
          MR. GARCIA, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY CULLEN JONES. 
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GOOD MORNING, UH, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          MY NAME IS TONY GARCIA. 
          I LIVE AT 2 43 EAST ATCH. 
          I I'M A BOARD MEMBER OF THE MONTE VISTA HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION AND A MEMBER OF THE T ONE N C STEERING COMMITTEE. 
          I'M ALSO A NEIGHBORHOOD REPRESENTATIVE ON THE CITY'S S T R TASK FORCE. 
          I WOULD LIKE, UH, THIS MORNING TO READ A STATEMENT ON BEHALF OF THE ASSOCIATION. 
          OVER THE LAST YEAR, THE MONTE VISTA HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION HAS FOLLOWED THE PROGRESS OF THE PROPOSED SHORT-TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE FROM ITS INCEPTION THROUGH ITS CITY REVIEW PROCESS. 
          DURING THIS REVIEW PROCESS, THE ASSOCIATION HAS CONTINUALLY SUPPORTED THOSE DRAFT AMENDMENTS, WHICH HAVE INCREASED THE LEVEL OF PROTECTION FOR OUR NEIGHBORS NEIGHBORHOODS, AND EVEN OUR CITY COFFERS. 
          WHILE PROTECTING THE RIGHTS OF SS T R OPERATORS, WE BELIEVE THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE HAS REACHED A NEAR E EQUITABLE LEVEL IN ADDRESSING THE CONCERNS AND NEEDS OF THE OWNER OCCUPIED AND NON-OWNER OCCUPIED ST'S RIGHT TO OPERATE. 
          IT ALSO ADDRESSES THE CONCERNS AND NEEDS OF NEIGHBORHOODS BY PROTECTING HOUSING, INVENTORY, HOUSING COST, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, ITS SENSE OF COMMUNITY, AN ESSENTIAL BUILDING BLOCK OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          BY NO MEANS IS THE ORDINANCE PERFECT, BUT WE STILL SEE THIS AS A BALANCE AND SENSIBLE REGULATION THAT BENEFITS BOTH THE HOME SHARING ECONOMY AND NEIGHBORHOODS IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THE CITY COUNCIL PASS THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE. 
          WITHOUT FURTHER DELAY, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. 
          THANK YOU, MR. GARCIA. 
          COLIN JONES. 
          MR. JONES, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY RICKY KUSHNER. 
          UH, YES, GOOD MORNING. 
          MY NAME IS CULLEN JONES, 1123 NOLAN, UH, MAYOR AND COUNSEL. 
          AS AN ENGAGED CITIZEN, I AND MANY OTHERS FROM MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE PERSPECTIVES PARTICIPATED IN THE CITY SHORT-TERM TASK FORCE LAST YEAR, THANKS TO THE GUIDANCE OF MICHAEL DI MICHAEL DYSON. 
          LATER, TONY FELTZ, A NEIGHBORHOOD RESPECTFUL ORDINANCE WAS PRODUCED. 
          I'VE LEARNED A GREAT DEAL ABOUT CITIZEN ENGAGEMENT ORDINANCES AND CITY POLITICS OVER THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS. 
          THE TIME, THE ENERGY, AND THE RESOURCES THAT MANY OF US SPENT ARE, AGAIN, BEFORE YOU IN REVISION OF THAT ORIGINAL ORDINANCE. 
          THIS ORDINANCE ISN'T PERFECT. 
          IT WILL NEED TO BE ADJUSTED, ADJUSTED AS SITUATIONS ARISE IN CLIMATE CHANGE. 
          HOWEVER, AS I SHARED WITH COUNCILMAN SHAW EARLIER THIS WEEK, THE ST ORDINANCE OFFERS NEIGHBORS THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEIR RESPONSIBLE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS THAT OPERATE WITHIN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD MORE PROTECTION GUIDANCE THAN WHAT THEY HAVE CURRENTLY. 
          ADOPTING. 
          THIS ORDINANCE NOT ONLY LEVELS THE PLAYING FIELD FOR SMALL HOME-BASED BUSINESSES, IT ALSO ENCOURAGES THROUGH THE DENSITY LIMITATIONS PORTION, THE AVAIL, THE AVAILABILITY OF RESIDENTS ACROSS THE WATER SWATH OF THE CITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL BUSINESS MODEL. 
          AS HOSTS, I CAN ONLY SPEAK TO WHAT I KNOW, A ONE SQUARE MILE NEIGHBORHOOD WITHIN A DISTRICT, WORKING ALONG OTHER SI, EXCUSE ME, WORKING ALONGSIDE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS IN OTHER DISTRICTS IN THE SPRAWLING CITY OF MILLIONS. 
          THIS ORDINANCE, I FEEL, OFFERS ALL DISTRICTS, ALL NEIGHBORHOODS, RESIDENTS, THE OPPORTUNITY TO CAPITALIZE ON THE SHORT TERM RENTAL BUSINESS MODEL. 
          THE DENSITY MATRIX WITHIN THE ORDINANCE, ENCO ENCOURAGES AND ENABLES THE SPREAD OF AN INCOME SOURCE TO MORE RESIDENTS IN OTHER DISTRICTS WHERE NEIGHBORHOODS WERE, EXCUSE ME, WHERE NEIGHBORS WOULD APPRECIATE AN ALTERNATIVE INCOME RELYING ON THE DATA SCRUBBER AIR D N A, APPROXIMATELY 79% OF THE AIRBNB SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE CONFINED TO JUST TWO OF D TWO'S, FIVE ZIP CODES. 
          THE ORDINANCE ALSO RESPECTS THOSE WHO ABIDED BY OSA'S LONGSTANDING RULES AND REGULATIONS OF REGISTERING THEIR BUSINESS WITH THE CITY AND BEING RESPONSIBLE CITIZENS LIKE ANY OTHER BUSINESS WITHIN A HOME, SUCH AS A NAIL SALON OR ACCOUNTANTS, THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL BUSINESS MODEL, A COMMERCIAL ENDEAVOR NEEDS TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO REFLECTIVE STANDARD. 
          WITH 2,720 ACTIVE AIRB AIRBNB RENTALS, EXCLUDING OTHER PLATFORMS, THE CITY ESTIMATES LESS THAN 15% AROUND 1400 OPERATORS ARE RE HAVE REGISTERED THEIR BUSINESS. 
          FOR THE REASONS ABOVE, I ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THIS IMPORTANT PIECE OF LEGISLATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MR. JONES. 
          RICKY KUSHNER, FOLLOWED BY KOSA CULVIN. 
          I'M FREDERIKA KUSHNER , UH, AND I AM READING A LETTER FROM THE TIER ONE NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION STEERING COMMITTEE, OF WHICH I AM A MEMBER. 
          THE T ONE NC STEERING COMMITTEE SUPPORTS THE 
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PROPOSED CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ORDINANCE FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS. 
          UNDER THE CURRENT U D C, THE SHORT TERM RENTAL BUSINESS IS AN UNREGULATED INDUSTRY IN THE CITY. 
          THE HOME SHARING ECONOMY SUCH AS AIRBNB, HOMEAWAY, FLIPKEY, AND V R B O, ALLOWING HOMEOWNERS TO LIST BEDROOMS, ACCESSORY DWELLINGS, OR ENTIRE HOUSES FOR SHORT, SHORT TERM RENTALS, HAS CHANGED THE LANDSCAPE OF RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS IN SAN ANTONIO, AS WELL AS ACROSS THE NATION. 
          THE TIER ONE STEERING COMMITTEE MEMBERS BELIEVE PROTECTING OUR NEIGHBORS AND NEIGHBORHOODS IS PARAMOUNT IN PRESERVING AND SUSTAINING THE CULTURAL HISTORY OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          THREE OF THE CURRENT AND ONE FORMER STEERING COMMITTEE MEMBERS SERVED ON THE SS T R TASK FORCE AS NEIGHBORHOOD REPRESENTATIVES. 
          WE WORKED FOR ALMOST A YEAR TOGETHER WITH A GROUP OF S T R OPERATORS AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS TO DEVELOP SENSIBLE REGULATION THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR SDRS TO HAVE THEIR RIGHTFUL PLACE IN THE ECONOMY WITHOUT ENC CROUCHING ON THE PROPERTY RIGHTS OF NEIGHBORS AND NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          ONE OF THE STRONGEST CONCERNS THAT WE HEARD FROM NEIGHBORHOODS WAS THAT RESIDENTIAL BLOCKS ARE LOSING NEIGHBORS. 
          BECAUSE OF THE INCREASING PROLIFERATION OF S T R RENTALS, WE TOOK THIS INPUT SERIOUSLY AND DID OUR BEST TO CRAFT AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD PROTECT NEIGHBORHOODS FROM UNREGULATED INFRINGEMENTS BY THIS BURGEONING INDUSTRY, WHILE ALLOWING HOMEOWNERS AND INVESTORS TO BENEFIT FROM THE BUSINESS OF PROVIDING TOURIST ACCOMMODATIONS. 
          WE FEEL THAT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE DOES THAT TO THE BEST OF THE ABILITY OF THE, THAT COMPROMISE ENTAILS. 
          WE THINK THAT ADDED BENEFIT, UH, TO THE DENSITY, RE RE, AH, PARDON ME, , WE THINK THAT AN ADDED BENEFIT TO THE DENSITY RE RESTRICTIONS IS THAT IT WILL ENCOURAGE INVESTMENT IN UNDERSCORED AREAS, UNDERSERVED AREAS BY LIMITING THE NUMBER OF SDRS THAT CAN GO INTO AREAS THAT ALREADY HAVE A LARGE NUMBER OF THESE BUSINESSES OPERATING WITHIN IN THEIR COMMUNITIES. 
          WE BELIEVE THE S D R ORDINANCE TO BE THE FIRST STEP TOWARD A SENSITIVE AND BALANCED APPROACH IN PROTECTING BOTH SAN ANTONIO LEGACY NEIGHBORHOODS AND RESPONSIBLE BUSINESS OWNERS. 
          WE ALSO THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO MAKE THIS FIRST STEP NOW WITH THE KNOWLEDGE THAT, AS IS THIS CASE WITH MUCH LEGISLATION, FUTURE ADJUSTMENTS TO THE ORDINANCE, MAY BECOME NECESSARY ONCE THE CITY CAN QUANTIFY AND EVALUATE THE RESULTS. 
          WE ALL KNOW THAT THIS IS A CONCERN THAT CITIES ALL OVER THE STATE, THE NATION, AND THE WORLD ARE STRUGGLING WITH TO VARYING DEGREES, AND THAT TO DO NOTHING WOULD BE DIS A DISSERVICE, ESPECIALLY TO OUR TIER ONE NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          AS A LADDERAL LINE COALITION, COALITION AND NEIGHBORHOODS, WE ENCOURAGE OUR INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS TO SPEAK UP FOR THEMSELVES, BUT WE FEEL CONFIDENT THAT WE HAVE REPRESENTED THE MAJORITY OF THEM FAIRLY. 
          WE REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT. 
          THANK YOU, MS. KUSHNER SIMA COLVIN, FOLLOWED BY LYNN KIC. 
          GOOD MORNING MAYOR. 
          CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          BEACON HILL IS A OH 8 1 7 WEST MAGNOLIA BEACON HILL DISTRICT ONE. 
          BEACON HILL IS A NEIGHBORHOOD NEAR DOWNTOWN CENTER THAT HAS BECOME A DESIRABLE PLACE TO LIVE. 
          OUR NEIGHBORHOOD'S RESILIENCY HAS BEEN DUE IN LARGE PART TO THE HARD WORK OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE. 
          AS OUR LETTERHEAD STATES, THE BEACON HILL AREA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS DEDICATED TO NEIGHBORHOOD UNITY AND REVITALIZATION. 
          THIS MISSION APPLIES TO THOSE THAT HAVE MADE BEACON HILL THEIR HOME FOR MANY YEARS, AND IN SOME CASES MULTIPLE GENERATIONS, AS WELL AS FOR THOSE THAT HAVE MOVED HERE RECENTLY. 
          THE GROWING POPULATION, THE REVITALIZATION OF DOWNTOWN AND THE RESURGENCE OF INTEREST IN URBAN LIVING HAVE ALL RESULTED IN AN INCREASED POPULARITY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND OTHERS IN THE URBAN CORE. 
          WHILE THIS TREND OF REVITALIZATION IS GENERALLY POSITIVE, IT DOES NOT COME WITHOUT ITS NEGATIVE IMPACTS, AND THOSE ARE THE ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MONITORING AND ADDRESSING IN ORDER TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE GOOD AND MITIGATE THE SOMETIMES UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES, SUCH AS THE LOSS OF A SENSE OF COMMUNITY. 
          THE BEACON HILL AREA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION BOARD AFTER PUBLIC DISCUSSION AT OUR GENERAL ASSEMBLY MEETING AND THE ZONING AND URBAN DESIGN COMMITTEE HAVE VOTED TO SUPPORT THE PROPOSED S T R ORDINANCE. 
          WE BELIEVE THAT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE BOTH ALLOWS AND SUPPORTS THE ABILITY FOR HOMEOWNERS AND SMALL INVESTORS TO BENEFIT FROM THIS NEW COTTAGE INDUSTRY WHILE MAINTAINING A CULTURE AND ENVIRONMENT THAT SUPPORTS COMMUNITY. 
          WE BELIEVE THAT ALL HOMEOWNERS HAVE PROPERTY RIGHTS. 
          THOSE THAT WISH TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF HOME-BASED BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES, AS WELL AS HOMEOWNERS THAT HAVE A RIGHT TO AN EXPECTATION THAT LIVING IN AN AREA THAT IS ZONE FOR RESIDENTIAL USE WILL, IN FACT REMAIN A PREDOMINANTLY FAMILY-ORIENTED COMMUNITY-BASED EXPERIENCE. 
          THANK YOU. 
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THANK YOU, MS. COLVIN. 
          LYNN KN, FOLLOWED BY MARGARET LEAS. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          I'M LYNN KNAPE. 
          I LIVE AT, EXCUSE ME, THREE 12 PEARL PARKWAY AT PEARL IN THE CULINARY BUILDING. 
          I LIVE AND WORK THERE, UH, AND I AM A LICENSED REAL ESTATE BROKER IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, AND I'M A MEMBER OF THE SAN ANTONIO BOARD OF REALTORS, BUT I DO NOT REPRESENT THEM TODAY. 
          I REPRESENT ME AND MY FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS. 
          UH, SO AS I SAID, I LIVE AND WORK AT PEARL AND I'VE BEEN AFFECTED MYSELF BY AN AIRBNB NEXT DOOR. 
          EVEN THOUGH IN EVERY APARTMENT COMPLEX IN TOWN, THEY ARE TOTALLY AGAINST, UH, YOUR LEASE. 
          UH, SO THEREFORE, MY NEIGHBOR GOT EVICTED. 
          UH, I WILL SAY IN, UH, FULL DISCLOSURE, I NOW RENT THAT APARTMENT AS MY OFFICE, BUT THERE WAS ONE MORE TENANT IN BETWEEN. 
          SO, UH, BILL S SCHONE COM, UH, BLAMES. 
          HE, HE, UH, SAYS THAT I GOT MY NEIGHBOR KICKED OUT SO I COULD HAVE AN OFFICE, BUT THAT'S NOT TRUE. 
          UH, ANYWAY, UH, BUT IT WAS A PROBLEM, UH, EVEN IN AN APARTMENT COMPLEX. 
          IT WAS A PROBLEM. 
          MY SON IN STONE OAK HAS HAD THE PROBLEM. 
          MY HOUSE NEXT DOOR TO HIM, UH, HAD 18 PEOPLE THERE AND ENJOYED THE SWIMMING POOL IN THE, THE OUTDOOR AREA, SO THEY WERE ABLE TO TALK TO THEIR NEIGHBOR AND GET THAT, THAT PROBLEM RESOLVED. 
          BUT, UM, EARLIER THIS YEAR, I SERVED ON THE MAYOR'S HOUSING TASK FORCE, ONE OF THE WORKING GROUPS, THE RESILIENT, RESILIENT NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, WORKING GROUP OF THE MAYOR'S HOUSING TASK FORCE. 
          AND I LEARNED A LOT ABOUT HOW SHORT-TERM RENTALS WERE AFFECTING THE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, OF THE URBAN NEIGHBORHOODS OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          I LEARNED THAT MANY OF THEM WERE LOSING THE FABRIC OF THAT ONCE CLOSE-KNIT FEELING THAT THEY HAD OF FRIENDSHIPS AND FAMILIES IN THE, IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          I ALSO SAW THERE, AND I SEE IN MY BUSINESS HOW INVESTORS ARE GOBBLING UP PROPERTIES IN URBAN NEIGHBORHOODS, TAKING THESE DESPERATELY NEEDED AFFORDABLE TYPE HOUSING PRODUCTS AWAY FROM THESE NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          SO IT'S GIVEN ME A DIFFERENT OUTLOOK AS I DO WORK WITH PEOPLE COMING HERE FROM OTHER PLACES. 
          RECENTLY, I HAD TWO GENTLEMEN FROM SEATTLE THAT WANTED TO MOVE HERE, MAYBE LATER, BUT THEY WANTED TO BUY SOMETHING NOW THAT THEY COULD RENT, AND I GAVE THEM A COPY OF THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS PROPOSED SO THAT THEY COULD KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY WOULD BE LOOKING AT IF THEY DID DECIDE TO DO THAT. 
          UH, WHILE I LEARNED, UH, WHAT I LEARNED HAS MOST ASSUREDLY AFFECTED HOW I INTERACT WITH, WITH POTENTIAL BUYERS OR EVEN WITH RENTERS IN NEIGHBORHOODS, BECAUSE YES, THERE ARE PEOPLE COMING TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS, RENTING HOUSES, AND THEN TURNING AROUND AND MAKING THOSE SHORT-TERM RENTALS, AND THAT GIVES ONE MORE LAYER OF INEFFECTIVE OVERSIGHT TO THOSE PROPERTIES WHEN THE, THE, THE RENTER LIVES SOMEWHERE ELSE. 
          SO I SUPPORT THE ORDINANCE AS IT IS IN PLACE. 
          THANK YOU, MS. KNAPE. 
          MARGARET LEEDS, FOLLOWED BY ROSALYN COGBURN. 
          GOOD MORNING, HONORABLE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD. 
          I AM MARGARET LEEDS. 
          I'M A HOMEOWNER RESIDENT AT 3 0 8 KING WILLIAM. 
          I DON'T HAVE COMBAT BOOTS, BUT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS A LONG HISTORY OF SCARS FROM AGGRESSIVE CIVIC PARTICIPATION. 
          IN THE 1950S AND 1960S, THE WOMEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD BATTLED THE FREEWAY THAT WAS GOING TO BULLDOZE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEY STOPPED THE CORPS OF ARMY ENGINEERS FROM DESTROYING THE TREES WITH THEIR RIVER PROJECT. 
          BY THE 1970S, WE WERE BATTLING THE SAN ANTONIO INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT RAISED FOUR ADJACENT BLOCKS OF HOUSES TO BUILD A GIANT FOOD PROCESSING DISTRIBUTION CENTER. 
          AND THE BATTLE RESULTED IN THAT SPACE BECOMING A PARK AND HOUSING OF OFFICES FOR THE SAN ANTONIO HOUSING AUTHORITY. 
          IN THE LATE NINETIES, WE LABORED TO CONVINCE THE CITY TO BAN THE TOUR BUSES THAT WERE RUMBLING NOISILY THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD RATTLING FOUNDATIONS AND, AND GIVING OFF EXHAUST FUMES. 
          KING WILLIAM IS SLOWLY GENTRIFIED WHAT WAS ONCE A DECAYING NEIGHBORHOOD WITH COTTAGES SPRINKLED AMONG MANSIONS, CUT UP INTO CHEAP APARTMENTS IS NOW A VIBRANT NEIGHBORHOOD OF ONCE AGAIN GRAND MANSIONS AND STYLISH RENOVATED OUTAGES. 
          AS A RESULT, FIGHTS THAT ONCE NECESSITATED BY THE FACT THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS VIEWED AS DISPOSABLE ARE NOW NECESSITATED BY THE FACT THAT IT IS VIEWED 
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AS PRECIOUS. 
          IN THE PAST FEW YEARS, KING WILLIAM AND THE ADJACENT LAVACCA NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE SEEN SHORT-TERM RENTALS QUIETLY, BUT AGGRESSIVELY INFILTRATE OUR HOUSING STOCK. 
          THE STRS TYPE TWO, AS YOU KNOW, ARE NOT OWNER OCCUPIED, BUT ARE RENTED OUT OFTEN BY OWNERS WHO DON'T LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          FACT. 
          SOME LIVE IN OTHER STATES, MANY HAVE REALTOR STYLE LOCK BOXES, SO THE CUSTOMERS NEVER EVEN SEE THE OWNERS. 
          THESE ARE PURE AND SIMPLE BUSINESSES THAT DOESN'T MAKE THE BUSINESS PEOPLE WHO OWN THEM BAD PEOPLE, BUT IT DOES MAKE THEIR INTERESTS AS MUCH CONTRARY TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS, AS WOULD ANY OTHER BUSINESS THAT TOOK OVER THE HOUSES. 
          ASK YOURSELF, WHAT MAKES A GOOD NEIGHBORHOOD? THE ANSWER IS SIMPLE. 
          IT'S NEIGHBORS. 
          WE CHOOSE TO LIVE NEXT DOOR TO NEIGHBORS, HOMEOWNER, OR LONG-TERM RENTER. 
          IN KING WILLIAM. 
          RENTERS ARE AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          IT IS HOW YOUNG PEOPLE ENTER AND BECOME PART OF THE COMMUNITY. 
          BUT NOW I HAVE, GO AHEAD AND FINISH MS. LEEDS. 
          I HAVE YIELDED TIME. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, WHAT'S YOUR NAME, MA'AM? WATSON . 
          OKAY. 
          YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, MS. LEEDS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND KING WILLIAM RENTERS ARE AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          IT IS HOW YOUNG PEOPLE ENTER AND BECOME PART OF THE COMMUNITY. 
          BUT NOW, WHEN SAN ANTONIO'S HOUSING STOCK IS LAGGING IN GROWTH, MANY OF THE SMALL RENTAL HOUSES ARE BECOMING NON-OWNER OCCUPIED. 
          STR. 
          THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE REASONS WHY THE KING WILLIAM ASSOCIATION BOARD VOTED TO OPPOSE NON-OWNER OCCUPIED STR IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          SOME HAVE ARGUED THAT REGULATIONS ARE AN INFRINGEMENT OF PROPERTY RIGHTS, BUT WHAT HAS MADE KING WILLIAMS SO ATTRACTIVE TO THOSE WHO WOULD MONETIZE? IT IS PRECISELY THAT THOSE OF US WHO HAVE BOUGHT HOMES HERE DID SO WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE WOULD FOLLOW THE HISTORIC DISTRICT'S RESTRICTIONS ON OUR OWN PROPERTY RIGHTS. 
          SO THE STRUCTURES ARE PROTECTED. 
          IT IS THE SUBSTANCE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS THREATENED. 
          ABOUT 25 YEARS AGO, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WENT THROUGH EXTENDED AND INTENSE NEGOTIATIONS OVER A VERY SIMILAR ISSUE, THE REGULATION OF BED AND BREAKFASTS. 
          WE AGREED TO THE DENSITY RULES. 
          THE PROBLEM IS THESE RULES WERE NOT OFTEN ENFORCED. 
          MANY OF THE BMBS ARE NOW LISTED ALSO WITH ONLINE SERVICES SUCH AS AIRBNB. 
          BECAUSE OF THE ONLINE SERVICES, THE NEW SHORT TERM RENTALS APPEAR MORE OF A THREAT THAN THE OLD STYLE. 
          B AND BS TURNED OUT TO BE THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE CITY STAFF IS PRESENTING TO CITY COUNCIL WOULD ALLOW, BUT WOULD LIMIT THE DENSITY OF TYPE TWO UNITS. 
          IT'S A COMPROMISE, BUT WE ASK THAT YOU PASS THE ORDINANCE AND ENFORCE IT TO PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FROM THIS CURRENT THREAT. 
          LET US LIVE NEXT DOOR TO A NEIGHBOR, NOT A BUSINESS. 
          THIS COMPROMISE WILL SERVE OTHERWISE, WE'LL HAVE TO MAN THE BARRICADES ONCE AGAIN, EVEN IF WEAKENED BY HAVING FEWER NEIGHBORS AND MORE MONEYED INTEREST LINED UP AGAINST US. 
          AND I REFERENCE, UH, THE ARTICLE THAT I'VE QUOTED OFTEN FROM RICK CASEY IN THE BOB BREVARD REPORT. 
          THANKS TO OUR DEAR NEIGHBOR, RICK. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MS. LEEDS. 
          STELLA DE LA GARZA, MS. DE LA GARZA. 
          YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY DAVID TIPTON. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          I AM SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF SUSAN BEVIN AND THE SAN ANTONIO CONSERVATION SOCIETY. 
          THE SAN ANTONIO CONSERVATION SOCIETY HAS WORKED OVER THE LAST YEAR WITH NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SHORT TERM RENTALS OR ORDINANCE SUPPORTS HEALTHY COMMUNITIES. 
          OUR HISTORIC DISTRICTS WERE CREATED BY BUILDING OWNERS WHO INVESTED THEIR TIME AND MONEY IN RESTORING AND PRESERVING BUILDINGS THAT BENEFIT THE ENTIRE CITY. 
          THEIR ONGOING STEWARDSHIP IS ESSENTIAL TO THE FUTURE PRESERVATION OF OUR HISTORIC DISTRICTS. 
          WHILE WE URGE THAT ONLY TYPE ONE OWNER OCCUPIED SHORT-TERM RENTALS SHOULD BE ALLOWED IN THE CITY'S HISTORIC DISTRICTS, WE DO NOT OPPOSE A LANGUAGE THAT LIMITS TYPE TWO STR TO 12 POINT A HALF PERCENT OF THE BLOCK FACE. 
          IN ALL RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, RESIDENT OWNERS ARE THE BEST STEWARDS OF PROPERTIES. 
          ABSENTEE OWNERS ARE UNABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN COMMUNITY STEWARDSHIP IN A MEANINGFUL EXTENT, 
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TO A MEANINGFUL EXTENT. 
          EXCUSE ME. 
          THE SOCIETY IS PLEASED TO SEE THAT THE INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT WENT INTO THE 1999 BED AND BREAKFAST ORDINANCE IS RECOGNIZED AND REFLECTED IN THE SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE. 
          WE SUPPORT THE LANGUAGE ADDED IN B SESSION REGARDING EVENTS, FOOD AND BEVERAGE SERVICE. 
          THE POINT OF THIS LAW IS TO ALLOW REASONABLE ADDITIONAL INCOME FROM PROPERTIES NOT TO CREATE COMPETITION WITH HOTELS. 
          THE SOCIETY URGES THE CITY COUNCIL TO REQUIRE AN INITIAL SAFETY INSPECTION BY THE CITY RATHER THAN ALLOWING SELF-CERTIFICATION AND INSPECTION BY COMPLAINT. 
          WHILE THE ORDINANCE IS NOT IDEAL, IT TAKES STEPS TOWARD ENSURING THAT THE INCREDIBLE INVESTMENT OF NEIGHBORHOOD TIME AND TREASURE AND SAN ANTONIO'S HISTORIC DISTRICTS WILL BE CONSERVED. 
          STEWARDSHIP REQUIRES PERMANENT RESIDENCE WITH EYES ON THE STREET AND FEET ON THE GROUND. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MS. DE LA GARZA. 
          DAVID TIPTON, FOLLOWED BY MARY JOHNSON. 
          MY NAME IS DAVID TIPTON, AND I LIVE AT 10 32 TIOGA. 
          AND, UH, I WANT TO SPEAK TO YOU BECAUSE, UH, AT THIS MEETING AND THE LAST MEETING, THE SHORT TERM RENTAL TYPE TWO RENTALS HAVE BEEN REPRESENTED AS BIG BUSINESS, UM, OR INVADERS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AND I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT AND, UH, EXPLAIN TO YOU THAT MANY OF THESE OWNERS ARE IN FACT, UH, RETIRED, UH, CITIZENS OF SAN ANTONIO THAT HAVE INVESTED THEIR LIFE SAVINGS INTO THESE PROPERTIES. 
          AND, AND NOT NECESSARILY LARGE BUSINESSES IS A SHORT TERM. 
          IT'S A SHORT TERM RENTAL, BUT IT'S A, UH, MANY OF THESE OWNERS ARE, ARE SMALL, SMALL BUSINESSES. 
          AND, UH, THIS CREATES A, AN IMPORTANT PART OF THEIR INCOME. 
          AND THESE PEOPLE, UH, UH, MANY TIMES LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WORK IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AS OPPOSED TO WHAT MANY PEOPLE HAVE SAID AT THIS, UH, UH, IN TODAY AND AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING. 
          AND, UH, I KNOW THAT THE, UH, CURRENT, THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE HAS GRANDFATHERED AND PROTECTED THE CURRENT PEOPLE WHO ARE PAYING TAXES AND, AND, UH, AND ALREADY HAVE BUSINESSES ESTABLISHED. 
          UH, BUT I KNOW THAT THE, THE ORDINANCE COULD BE ADJUSTED IN THE FUTURE. 
          AND I'M JUST ASKING THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO CONTINUE TO, UH, PROTECT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE, ARE, ARE CURRENTLY, UH, FOLLOWING THE LAW AND, AND, AND, AND, AND DOING THIS TYPE OF BUSINESS. 
          UH, THE GRANDFATHER, THE WORD GRANDFATHERING, DOESN'T APPEAR IN THE ORDINANCE THAT I HAVE READ. 
          I BELIEVE THAT THAT, UH, THAT SECTION OF THE ORDINANCE IS TERM NON-CONFORMING RIGHTS. 
          UH, ANYWAY, I'M JUST ASKING YOU TO CONTINUE TO PROTECT THOSE PEOPLE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MR. TIPTON. 
          MARY JOHNSON IS MS. JOHNSON HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          JACK FINGER, FOLLOWED BY ERMA HOFFMAN NURENBERG AND OTHER MEMBERS OF OUR ILLUSTRIOUS SAN ANTONIO CITY COUNCIL. 
          FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS JACK M. 
          FINGER. 
          YES. 
          THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE PROCEEDED ME AT THIS PODIUM THE LAST FEW MINUTES, THEY HAVE ARTICULATED QUITE WELL THE PROBLEM THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SEEK A REMEDY FOR. 
          YES, THEY ARE CITIZENS, CITIZENS OF THE CITY. 
          THEY'RE CITIZENS OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          THEY CARE ABOUT THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS ARE LIVABLE. 
          THEY WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S A PLEASANT PLACE TO LIVE, TO LIVE. 
          THEY SEE VISITORS. 
          WELL JUST RETURN THE CAMERA TO THE PODIUM FOR A MOMENT. 
          IF YOU WOULD RETURN THE CAMERA TO THE PODIUM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THE, UH, THERE ARE VISITORS ARE COMING IN AND ARE THE VISITORS INNOCUOUS, INNOCENT PEOPLE JUST PASSING THROUGH, OR ARE, CAN THEY BE CONSIDERED INTRUDERS? WELL, IT ALL DEPENDS ON ONE'S , UH, OUTLOOK ON THESE THINGS. 
          THE, UH, MOST MANY OF THESE PEOPLE ARE COMING IN. 
          THEY, THEY'RE JUST VISITING. 
          THEY ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF A, UH, ENTREPRENEURSHIP OF SOME PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS THERE. 
          BUT THEY, BUT THE CITIZENS WHO LIVE THERE ALREADY, THEY THINK THAT THE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE, THEIR CHARACTER IS BEING CHANGED BY PEOPLE WHO DON'T EVEN LIVE THERE AND WHO MAY NOT NECESSARILY CARE ABOUT WHAT GOES ON IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THERE. 
          NOW, THESE VISITORS TO SAN ANTONIO, 
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THEY COME IN AND THEY, UH, UH, THEY'RE, THAT'S JUST WHO THEY ARE. 
          THEY'RE, THEY MAY BE TOURISTS. 
          THEY SEE ONE GUY SAYS TO HIS WIFE, MYRTLE, LET'S GO DOWN AND VISIT THE ALAMO BEFORE THEY MOVE THE CAF. 
          YEAH. 
          AND WE WANNA SEE THAT BEFORE THAT HAPPEN. 
          AND BEFORE THEY CLOSE ALAMO STREET. 
          YES. 
          LET'S GO SEE, SEE IT WHILE WE HAVE A CHANCE. 
          SO THEY CALL THE MARRIOTT HOTEL, MARRIOTT HOTEL. 
          WHAT DO YOU CHARGE FOR A NIGHT? WELL, THE MARRIOTT GIVES 'EM A BIG PR PRICE AND SAY, MY GOD, THAT'S EXORBITANT. 
          WHAT'S DRIVING IT UP? WELL, SIR, UH, WE'LL TELL YOU TOWN NOW. 
          TURN ON THE CAMERA, MR. AUDIO VISUAL MAN. 
          IT'S THE BIG 16.75% HOTEL MO MOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX. 
          YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. 
          LOOK AT THAT THING. 
          WELL, THE CITY GETS ABOUT 9%. 
          THE LION'S SHARE, THE COUNTY GETS A PERCENTAGE POINT OR TWO, THE STATE GETS 6%. 
          THAT'S WHAT'S DRIVING UP SO MUCH OF IT. 
          AND THAT'S WHY THE GUY SAYS, HEY, I THINK WE, WE HAVE A, AN OPPORTUNITY HERE IN BEACON HILL. 
          LET'S GET IN FOR SOMETHING ABOUT HALF THAT PRICE. 
          SO YES, 16.75%. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU CAN TURN, RETURN THE CAMERA NOW, PLEASE. 
          YEAH, I MEAN, YOU AS A CITY COUNCIL, YOU CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT EXORBITANT TAX, BUT WILL YOU? NO. 
          , YOU, YOU WANT ALL THAT MONEY COMING IN FOR, FOR THE, UH, ALL THE DELEGATES, ARTS AGENCIES LIKE THE ESPERANZA, WHICH PRO HOMOSEXUAL, PRO-ABORTION, YOU NAME IT. 
          ALL. 
          YOU, YOU, YOU GET THE GIST OF IT. 
          THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT. 
          MONEY. 
          THANK YOU, MR. FINGER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IMEL HOFFMAN, FOLLOWED BY CHARLOTTE KERR. 
          GOOD MORNING MAYOR, AND GOOD MORNING COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          MY NAME IS IMA HOFF SOLI HOFFMAN. 
          AND, UM, I AM A LONGTIME RESIDENT OF SAN ANTONIO, BORN AND RAISED A MILE AND A HALF FROM HERE, UH, IN MY, UH, GREAT-GRANDFATHER'S HOME, WHICH IS STILL STANDING ACROSS FROM THE HISTORIC, UH, UNION STOCKYARDS. 
          I ALSO WANT TO, UH, SAY THAT I OWN AND I RENT A SMALL SEVEN ROOM HOME, A SWEET LITTLE HOME ON MEIDA STREET. 
          AND I RENT THIS FOR $650 A MONTH. 
          NOW, AS YOU ALL KNOW, A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF OUR WEST SIDE RESIDENTS EARN THEIR LIVING BY EMPLOYMENT, WHICH ENTAILS MAYBE TWO OR THREE JOBS IN ORDER TO SUPPORT THEIR FAMILIES. 
          AND ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE SENIORS WHO MAY RENT OUT A ROOM OR THEIR GARAGE APARTMENTS IN ORDER TO SUPPLEMENT THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY INCOME. 
          SO IT IS IMPORTANT TO PROMOTE LONG-TERM RENTERS THAT PROVIDE DECENT, SAFE, AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          NOW, THE WEST SIDE IS SEEING BIG DEVELOPERS COMING IN, DRIVING AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOODS, AND SHOWING THEIR GOLD. 
          TO SOME POOR PEOPLE WHO THINK THAT $10,000 FOR THEIR LITTLE HOME, THEIR LITTLE CASITA, IS A WONDERFUL DEAL WHEN SOMEONE HASN'T SEEN $10,000 IN CASH IN THEIR LIVES IN HAND. 
          THE CONCERN IS THAT IF THE DEVELOPERS ARE ALLOWED TO DEMOLISH THESE HOMES AND BUILD THEIR FANCY BED AND BREAKFAST CONDOS, IT WILL HAVE A CAUSE AND EFFECT ON OUR WEST SIDE. 
          THIS WILL ALSO PUSH SOME PEOPLE OUT AND OR HAVE HIGH RENTS THAT THEY CAN'T AFFORD. 
          AND ADDITIONALLY, THEY WILL HAVE AN INCREASED TAX BURDEN BECAUSE WE'RE SEEING THAT, AS YOU ALL KNOW. 
          SO WE ARE AT A TURNING POINT. 
          DO WE CARE TO PRESERVE AND RENOVATE OUR OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS FOR AND HELP THESE PEOPLE WHO HAVE WORKED HARD TO BUILD THEIR LITTLE DITAS, THEIR STORES, THEIR BAKERIES, THEIR BONILLAS, THEIR, UH, LITTLE MECHANIC SHOPS? SO WHEN YOU DRIVE BY THE WEST SIDE, ESPECIALLY ON GUADALUPE STREET, YOU SEE THE, THE CHARACTER IN THE HEART. 
          YOU SEE THEIR BEAUTIFUL MURALS. 
          YOU SEE THE, OKAY, I THINK IT'S UP. 
          AM I UP? IS IT UP? OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, THE BEAUTIFUL PHOTOGRAPHS THEY HAVE OF THE 19 HUNDREDS. 
          UM, AND I DO WANNA POINT OUT THAT NEW YORK CITY HAS BEEN ABLE TO PRESERVE ITS CHINATOWN, ITS LITTLE ITALY, UH, CHICAGO HAS ITS PILS AND, AND PULLMAN GROUPS. 
          SO AGAIN, WE WANT TO PRESERVE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND HAVE AFFORDABLE, DECENT LIVING FOR OUR PEOPLE. 
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THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MS. KERR. 
          ALRIGHT, THAT IS EVERYONE WHO SIGNED UP, UH, TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR. 
          COUNCILMAN TREVINO. 
          EXCUSE ME, YOUR HONOR. 
          V MAYOR. 
          MY NAME IS CHARLOTTE KERR. 
          ARE YOU CALLED ME TO COME UP? I'M SORRY. 
          I GOT, IT'S OKAY. 
          YEAH, GO AHEAD. 
          YOU JUST, THANK YOU MS. HOFFMAN. 
          UH, CHARLOTTE KERR, GO AHEAD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR HONORING MY TIME, UH, HONORABLE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          UH, MY NAME IS CHARLOTTE KERR JORGENSEN. 
          I OWN A TYPE ONE, UH, SHORT-TERM RENTAL IN ALMO PARK TERRACE. 
          I'M IN A HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD AND ALSO AM A REAL ESTATE BROKER AND VERY MUCH INVOLVED WITH THE, UH, SHORT-TERM RENTAL, UH, BUSINESS PLATFORM THROUGH AIRBNB. 
          I ONLY RENT THROUGH AIRBNB. 
          I WAS ON THIS, THE, UH, TASK FORCE WITH THE CITY. 
          AND WHAT I, UM, KNOW TO BE TRUE ABOUT THE WORK OF THE TASK FORCE THAT BROUGHT US TO THIS POINT TODAY IS THAT WE LIVED WITHIN THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS. 
          SO WE ALL BROUGHT DIFFERENT FACTIONS AND IDEAS TO THE TABLE. 
          THERE WERE ARGUMENTS, THERE WERE AGREEMENTS, AND WE COMPROMISES. 
          AND THIS IS WHERE WE ARE TODAY. 
          SO THIS IS THE WORK OF YOUR CITIZENS BRINGING YOU THE, UM, OF ORDINANCES. 
          AND I APPRECIATE YOUR LOOKING AT THEM AND VOTING ON THEM. 
          UM, IT IS A WIN. 
          NOT EVERYBODY IS HAPPY ABOUT IT. 
          I THINK THE BIGGEST CONCERN THAT YOU NEED TO KNOW OF CITIZENS, WE REALLY DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S 2000 OF US. 
          'CAUSE THERE'S HARD, IT'S HARD TO COUNT US, RIGHT? THERE'S ONLY 400 PAYING HOTEL TAX, BUT THOSE WHO ARE NOT PAYING HOTEL TAX ARE VERY CONCERNED. 
          SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND THAT WE, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT OUR CITY WANTS TO CLOSE DOWN PEOPLE'S BUSINESSES. 
          I THINK PEOPLE, UH, SHOULD BE COMING TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE ORDINANCE. 
          UM, WE'VE BEEN, UM, IN A AMBIGUITY REGULATORY ENVIRONMENT FOR, UH, SINCE THE BEGINNING, I THINK 20 12, 20 13, MAYBE THE FIRST SHORT TERM RENTALS SHOWED UP HERE. 
          AND, UH, IT IS GOOD TO HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT WILL SUSTAIN US AND SUSTAIN OUR CITY. 
          AND IT MAY NEED TO BE TWEAKED AS TIME GOES ON. 
          WE DON'T KNOW. 
          BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR, UH, APPROVING IT, AND I APPRECIATE THE TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MS. KERR. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UH, COUNCILMAN TIGNER. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UH, AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS ITEM TO, TO COUNCIL. 
          UH, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO RECOGNIZE MY FORMER COUNCIL COLLEAGUE, COUNCILMAN MIKE GALLAGHER, FOR INITIATING THE EFFORT WHILE HE WAS ON COUNCIL. 
          I SPECIFICALLY WANNA THANK THE TASK FORCE THAT HAS WORKED VERY HARD ON THIS, UH, GETTING TO THIS, THIS COMPROMISE MOVING FORWARD. 
          AND ALSO WANT TO THANK, UH, MIKE SHANNON, UH, ALL YOUR HARD WORK. 
          AND WE'VE, WE EVEN HAD SOME GREAT, UH, EXAMPLES THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS THAT WE, WE WORKED IN AND LEARNED FROM IN TERMS OF HOW WE ADDED TO, TO THIS COMPROMISE. 
          UH, OF COURSE, DISTRICT ONE TOOK THE LEAD ON THIS, UH, S T R ISSUE BECAUSE DISTRICT ONE, UH, DOES BEAR THE BULK OF STRS IN OUR CITY. 
          IT IS, IN ALL LIKELIHOOD, HAS THE LARGEST NUMBER OF HISTORIC DISTRICT DISTRICTS, NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, CONSERVATION DISTRICTS, AND ESTABLISHED LEGACY NEIGHBORHOODS IN OUR CITY. 
          IN CONSIDERING THE SDRS, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE STRIKE THE RIGHT BALANCE, AS YOU HEARD. 
          AND I THINK THAT WAS REALLY CLEAR IN A LOT OF THE STATEMENTS TODAY. 
          IT WAS CERTAINLY CLEAR IN THE TASK FORCE INTENTIONS IS HOW DO WE FIND THAT BALANCE, THAT BALANCE, UH, THAT ALLOWS THE, THE PERMITTING OF STR WHILE PROTECTING OUR BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          UH, IN CONSIDERING THE STR IT IS IMPORTANT, UH, THAT WE UNDERSTAND THE FACT THAT WE, WE WANT TO, WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENT TYPES TYPOLOGIES, THE TYPE ONE AND THE TYPE TWO. 
          UH, WE ARE FORTUNATE THAT WE LIVE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. 
          UH, IT'S LEGENDARY AND IT'S PROTECTION OF PROPERTY RIGHTS OF THOSE CITIZENS WHO OWN, WHO OWN PROPERTY. 
          UH, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WELL, IT MEANS THAT THE GOVERNMENT, UH, NOT THE STATE, NOT THE CITY, CAN PASS REGULATIONS. 
          UH, NO GOVERNMENT CAN PASS REGULATIONS THAT RESTRICT YOUR PROPERTY RIGHTS UNLESS THEY ARE PROTECTING PUBLIC SAFETY AND HEALTH. 
          HOW DOES THAT RELATE TO S T R REGULATIONS THAT WE ARE CONSIDERING TODAY? THE CITY COUNCIL CAN PASS ORDINANCES THAT RESTRICT RESTRICTS PROPERTY RIGHTS OF OWNERS AS LONG AS THEY ARE REASONABLE AND PROTECTS PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY. 
          UH, AND AGAIN, FOR MORE THAN A YEAR, THIS COMMUNITY HAS ENGAGED, UH, IN, IN A THOROUGH DEBATE ON ALL THE ISSUES RELATING TO STR. 
          WE HAVE LOOKED AT ALL OF THE CITIES, AND MORE AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE HAVE LOOKED AT THE, AND SPOKEN WITH OUR OWN NEIGHBORHOODS, WITH CITY STAFF, UH, AND THEY HAVE DONE CONSIDERABLE RESEARCH AND GIVEN US GOOD INFORMATION AND DATA, AS I MENTIONED, WORKING WITH, WITH MIKE SHANNON AND HIS STAFF ON SOME, UH, GREAT EXAMPLES. 
          AND I WANNA POINT OUT, UH, A LOT OF THE KEY PROVISIONS THAT MIKE, UH, UH, LAID OUT, UH, THE SELF-CERTIFICATION, THE REDUCED FEES, THE CITY HOUSING INCENTIVES AND EVENTS AND OTHER, OTHER USES IS ALL SOMETHING THAT REALLY 
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KIND OF CAME OUT AND DEVELOPED, UH, THROUGH THIS CONVERSATION AND THROUGH OUR PROCESS. 
          SO, I'M, AGAIN, I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR THAT. 
          OF COURSE, WE KNOW, UH, THE SHARING ECONOMY IS HERE, AND WE WANT TO WORK THROUGH THIS. 
          SO LET US CONTINUE TO EMBRACE THE SHARING ECONOMY, AND WE CAN ACCEPT IT AND REGULATE IT TODAY AS WE THINK BEST. 
          UH, I DO SUPPORT SDRS, BOTH TYPE ONE AND TYPE TWO, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I WANT TO PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND PRESERVE THEIR CHARACTER AND CULTURE. 
          AND I'M GONNA REPEAT THAT. 
          I WANT TO PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND PRESERVE THEIR CHARACTER AND CULTURE. 
          WELL, HOW DO WE DO THAT? WELL, AS OUTLINED, TYPE ONE NEIGHBORHOODS WILL BE PROTECTED BECAUSE THE OWNER LIVES THERE AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE PART OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          TYPE TWO IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT BECAUSE THE, WE PROTECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD BY LIMITING THE NUMBER OF STRS IN A BLOCK AS WAS PRESENTED. 
          UH, WHY SHOULD WE DO THAT IN ORDER TO PROTECT, IN ORDER TO PROTECT NEIGHBORHOODS, RIGHT? UH, WHAT IS A NEIGHBORHOOD? WELL, AS WAS OUTLINED, IT WOULD, IT WOULD MEAN THAT 12.5% OF, OF STR ON A BLOCK MIGHT THREATEN A NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THAT NUMBER IS, IS PRETTY SPECIFIC. 
          BASICALLY MEANS ONE EIGHTH OF THAT BLOCK. 
          AND SO, UH, I THINK IT'S, IT'S CRITICAL TO POINT OUT THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE BLOCKS ARE, ARE, ARE CERTAINLY SEEING AN INFLUX OF, OF STR TYPE TWOS. 
          AND, AND SO LIMITING OR CREATING A DENSITY CLAUSE, I THINK HELPS TO PROTECT THE NATURE AND CHARACTER OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          AND I THINK SOMEBODY SAID IT REALLY BEST. 
          YOU KNOW, WE WANT OUR NEIGHBORS, WE WANT TO HAVE NEIGHBORS. 
          WE WANNA GET TO KNOW OUR NEIGHBORS. 
          UH, THAT'S WHAT MAKES OUR CITY AMAZING. 
          WE WANT, WE DON'T WANT JUST SIMPLY TO HAVE RESIDENTS IN OUR NEIGHBORS. 
          WE WANT TO HAVE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE FRIENDS WITH ONE ANOTHER, PEOPLE TO GET TO KNOW ONE ANOTHER, RELY ON ONE ANOTHER, AND HAVE THE PLEASURE OF BEING AROUND OTHERS. 
          UM, THESE ARE SOME OF THE COMMENTS I'VE HEARD THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE PROCESS. 
          SO THAT IS ESSENTIALLY WHY WE MUST LIMIT TYPE TWO STRS TO 1212 0.5% OF THE BLOCK FACE. 
          WE MUST PRESERVE THE COMMUNITY OF EACH NEIGHBORHOOD BY ENSURING THAT A LARGE MAJORITY OF RESIDENTS MAKE UP THAT, THAT COMMUNITY. 
          UM, I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT, THAT THIS IS ONGOING. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, I WOULD, I WOULD ALSO LIKE THERE TO BE A REVIEW OF THE DENSITY LIMITATIONS FOR TYPE TWO RENTALS IN NON-RESIDENTIAL AREAS, TAKEN BACK TO A COUNCIL COMMITTEE AND POTENTIALLY COME BACK WITH, UH, POTENTIAL AMENDMENTS OR PROPOSALS WITHIN THE NEXT THREE MONTHS. 
          UM, THIS, THIS IS FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL AREAS ONLY. 
          UM, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE, AT THE HEART OF THIS ISSUE IS, IS KNOWING THAT THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE CITY IS, IS TRYING TO WORK IN A SOLUTION. 
          IT DID IT COLLABORATIVELY, DID IT WITH A, A, AN AMAZING TASK FORCE THAT WAS VERY, VERY ENGAGED AND MANY NEIGHBORHOODS WHO, WHO REALLY HELPED PROVIDE A LOT OF INPUT IN, IN GIVING US SOME OF THAT, THAT FEEDBACK. 
          UH, AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION, UH, FOR THE APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER FOUR AS PRESENTED. 
          SECOND. 
          HEY, THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER FOUR. 
          COUNCILMAN COURAGE. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          I'D LIKE TO BEGIN BY SAYING I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT FOR THE SUGGESTED ORDINANCE. 
          UH, THAT WAS EXPRESSED BY SEVERAL, ACTUALLY, SO MANY SPEAKERS TODAY. 
          I UNDERSTAND THEIR FEAR THAT NO REGULATION OF STR WILL SIMPLY DESTROY MANY OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          AND I BELIEVE THAT'S THE GREATEST MOTIVATION FOR MANY OF THEM COMING TODAY AND SAY, WELL, IT'S NOT PERFECT, BUT WE'LL ACCEPT IT. 
          UH, AND I BELIEVE MANY OTHERS, UH, WOULD PREFER THERE BE, UH, GREATER RESTRICTIONS ON THE PROPOSAL. 
          AND I'M ONE THAT BELIEVES THAT WAY. 
          I THINK THAT THIS PROPOSAL CAN STILL BE APPROVED TODAY, BUT I, I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE AMENDED AND I INTEND ON A, PROPOSING AN AMENDMENT. 
          BUT FIRST I'D LIKE TO PUT INTO THE RECORD A COMMUNICATION I RECEIVE FROM A RESIDENT IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          UM, HIS NAME WAS MR. JOHN KOA. 
          I BELIEVE SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS MAY HAVE RECEIVED THIS. 
          AND IT SAYS, UH, HONORABLE MAYOR RON NUREMBERG, CITY COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVES CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, UH, REFERENCE CITY COUNCIL, A SESSION NOVEMBER 1ST, 2018, CONSIDERATION OF THE PROPOSED SHORT-TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO PLEAD ON BEHALF OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL DURING THE CONSIDERATION OF SHORT-TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE FOR 
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APPROVAL THAT YOU CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING. 
          THE PROPOSED S T R ORDINANCE IS NOT ADHERING TO THE NATIONWIDE BEST PRACTICES REGARDING REGULATORY CONTROL OF TYPE TWO SHORT-TERM RENTALS BY MANY OTHER MAJOR CITIES THAT HAVE ENACTED THEIR CODES AND ORDINANCES AND HAD GENERALLY PROHIBITED TYPE TWO STR IN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, EXCEPT, EXCEPT BY SPECIAL EXCEPTION AS RECOMMENDED, UH, BY, UH, OR AS REQUESTED ABOUT, UH, BY A PREVIOUS C C R. 
          I DON'T HAVE A COPY OF IT HERE, BUT IT GOES ON TO SAY, THEREFORE, IF THE CURRENTLY PROPOSED DRAFT SHORT-TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE ALLOWING 12.5% OF HOMES IN ANY ZONING DISTRICT BY RIGHT TO BE USED AS TYPE TWO STR FULL-TIME, YEAR-ROUND VACATION HOMES WITHOUT OWNER IN RESIDENCE IS ENACTED, IT IS BOUND TO HAVE A LONG-TERM PROGRESSIVELY DETRIMENTAL IMPACT ON THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS FOR YEARS TO COME, PARTICULARLY IN SINGLE FAMILY, OLDER, MODERATE INCOME, AFFORDABLE HOME TYPE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE NOT PROTECTED BY THE USUALLY RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS OF MANDATORY HOAS, WHICH TYPE STRS TYPE TWO S T R INVESTORS TEND TO AVOID. 
          THE PROPOSED S T R ORDINANCE ALSO DOES NOT FOLLOW THE FUNDAMENTAL ASPECT OF THE NATIONAL BEST PRACTICES OF OTHER MAJOR CITIES, WHICH IS ADOPTING THE NATIONWIDE BEST PRACTICES TO THE UNIQUE LOCAL NEEDS, WHICH RECOGNIZE THE IMPACT AND BENEFITS OF TYPE TWO STR ACCORDING TO INDIVIDUAL DISTRICTS WHERE THEIR OPERATIONS, UH, VIA REVITALIZATIONS ARE VERY DESIRABLE AND WHERE THEY FIT IN OR COMPLEMENT THE DISTRICT. 
          AND THIS CONFIGURATION IN DISTRESSED DISTRICTS, COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS MIS MIXED USE DISTRICTS DESIGNATED SPECIAL DISTRICTS, AND BY SPECIAL EXCEPTION ONLY IN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, RESPECTIVELY. 
          THIS IS DONE DOING THIS IN A PROACTIVE STANCE BASED ON THE BEST PRACTICES, EXAMPLES OF OTHER CITIES, PREVENTING PROBLEMS FROM OCCURRING BY ESTABLISHING THE APPROPRIATE REGULATORY CONTROLS BEFOREHAND, SUCH AS EXCESSIVE LOSS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING STOCK VIA ST. 
          IN THIS CONTEXT, THE 12.5% ALLOWABLE RATE IN ANY DISTRICT FOR TYPE TWO STR IS A TOTAL IRREGULARITY IN COMPARISON WITH THE NATIONWIDE BEST PRACTICES OF OTHER MAJOR CITIES, WHICH GENERALLY REGARD TYPE TWO STR AS INCOMPATIBLE WITH REG, WITH RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, NOT ONLY IN TERMS OF THE ALLOWABLE RATE, BUT ALSO IN THE VERY LARGE SCOPE OF OPERATIONS AND THE HUGE IMPACT THAT IT IS BOUND TO HAVE ON SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, BASED ON THIS ALLOWABLE RATE, A SUBDIVISION OF APPROXIMATELY A THOUSAND HOMES COULD HAVE 125 HOMES USED AS TYPE TWO S T R VACATION HOMES. 
          AND GIVEN THAT EACH TYPE TWO S T R USUALLY ADJOINS AND IS IMMEDIATELY IN PROXIMITY TO SIX HOMES, THAT MEANS APPROXIMATELY 750 HOMES COULD BE IMPACTED BY THE ACTIVITIES OF TYPE TWO STR IN SUCH AN AREA WHICH IS CONSIDERED INCOMPATIBLE WITH RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS. 
          THE NUMBERS FOR ALL SAN ANTONIO WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY 61,000 HOMES AT 12 AND A HALF PERCENT POTENTIALLY USED AS TYPE TWO ST AMONG THE 366,000 HOMES IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED. 
          WITH REGARD TO THE PRECEDING, HAS THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL TAKEN FULLY INTO ACCOUNT THIS HUGE IMPACT? WOULDN'T THIS MAKE IT APPARENT TO ASCERTAIN THAT THE CONSTITUENCY IN EACH CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT WAS APPROPRIATELY INFORMED ABOUT THE S T R ORDINANCE PROCEEDINGS, INCLUDING SUFFICIENT EXPLANATION OF ITS OBJECTIVES? AND GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE RELATED PROCESS MIGHT INTERJECT HERE, THIS GENTLEMAN LIVES IN DISTRICT EIGHT, APPARENTLY DOESN'T FEEL HE WAS ADEQUATELY INFORMED. 
          IT APPEARS THAT UP TO THIS POINT IN TIME, THE MAJORITY OF RESIDENTS KNOW VERY LITTLE, IF ANYTHING, ABOUT THE S T R ORDINANCE PROCEEDINGS THAT HAVE BEEN GOING ON FOR OVER 
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A YEAR AND A HALF, AND ABOUT THE POTENTIAL IMPACT THAT IT IS BOUND TO HAVE ON THEIR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          NOW IT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR US TO HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE INHERENT RESPONSIBILITIES. 
          CONSEQUENTLY, DUE TO THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS ORDINANCE, AS WELL AS IN CONSIDERATION OF THE INHERENT OBLIGATIONS OF ELECTED PUBLIC OFFICIALS AND THE APPROPRIATE PERFORMANCE OF PUBLIC EMPLOYEES, IT IS APPARENT THAT THE MARON CITY COUNCIL SHOULD ENSURE THAT THE ENTIRE PROCESS DID INDEED ORIENT ITSELF TOWARD MEETING THE OPTIMUM IN TERMS OF STANDARDS OF PERFORMANCE, AS WELL AS WITH REGARD TO PERSONAL CONDUCT ACCORDING TO THE CITY CHARTER CODE OF ETHICS. 
          IN THIS CONTEXT, ASCERTAINING AND ENSURING, UH, THE FOLLOWING THAT THE SS T R ORDINANCE DID IN FACT TAKE INTO FULL CONSIDERATION THE VALUING AND PROTECTING NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE BEST INTEREST OF THE IMPACTED RESIDENTS IN ALL DISTRICTS BY LISTENING TO THEIR CONCERNS AND USING THE CITY ZONING POWERS WITH REGARD TO MINIMIZING ANY POTENTIALLY ADVERSE IMPACTS OF TYPE TWO ST ON RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS, IN A MANNER SIMILAR TO THAT OF OTHER MAJOR CITIES THAT HAVE ENACTED S T R REGULATORY CONTROLS THROUGH ADOPTING THE NATIONWIDE BEST PRACTICES TO THE UNIQUE LOCAL NEEDS, ENSURE THAT THE S T R PROCEEDINGS HAVE NOT BEEN FLAWED OR HAVE NOT GIVEN THE APPEARANCE OF BEING FLAWED IN TERMS OF OUR COSA CITY CHARTER. 
          NOW, IN THAT HE CITES WITH REGARD TO TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY AND SCRUPULOUS AVOIDANCE OF IMPROPRIETY AT ALL TIMES. 
          DO WE ENSURE THAT THE S T R ORDINANCE PROCEEDINGS DID INDEED INCLUDE AT LEAST A REASONABLE LEVEL OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, BE FITTING THE ENACTMENT OF AN ORDINANCE WITH THIS HIGH DEGREE OF POTENTIAL IMPACT ON NEIGHBORHOODS BOTH SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTIFAMILY IN ALL DISTRICTS CITYWIDE? I'LL INTERJECT HERE. 
          THERE WAS NO CITY PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS IN MY DISTRICT. 
          THIS SHOULD BE A MATTER OF CONCERN AS UP TO THIS POINT IN TIME. 
          MANY RESIDENTS KNOW VERY LITTLE OR ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT THE S T R ORDINANCE AND HOW IT MAY IMPACT THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          THIS MAY APPLY TO SOME IN THIS EMAIL EXCHANGE, WHICH ALSO INCLUDES OVER 100 OTHER RECIPIENTS THAT THIS WAS SENT TO. 
          THE REASON FOR THE VERY LOW PARTICIPATION IN THE VARIOUS PROCEEDINGS AND THE LOW LEVELS OF CONTACTS BY CONCERNED RESIDENTS IS BECAUSE UP TO THIS POINT IN TIME, THERE HAS NOT EVER BEEN A WIDE SCALE COMPREHENSIVE PUBLICITY AND EXPLANATION OF THE ISSUES RELATED TO STR PROVIDED TO THE PUBLIC, PARTICULARLY WITH REGARD TO TYPE TWO STR, WHICH ELICIT THE STRONGEST LEVELS OF CONCERNS. 
          THERE HAS ALSO BEEN NO WIDE SCALE NOTICES AND PUBLICITIES OF THE MEETINGS WITH ACCOMPANYING EXPLANATIONS EXCEPT FOR THE RECENT NOTICES OF THE S T R MEETINGS IN WHICH THE LAST FEW MONTHS ON NEXTDOOR, BUT, WHICH DIDN'T PROVIDE ANY EXPLANATION AS TO WHAT THE ISSUES ARE ALL ABOUT. 
          PEOPLE WILL GENERALLY NOT GET INVOLVED IN ISSUES THAT THEY KNOW VERY LITTLE, IF ANYTHING ABOUT. 
          THIS MAY VARY BETWEEN COUNT CITY COUNCIL DISTRICTS, AS SOME DISTRICTS HAVE PUBLICIZED THE NOTICES OF MEETINGS IN THEIR MONTHLY NEWSLETTERS, WHICH I HAVE DONE, UH, AND HELD S T R RELATED MEETINGS, WHICH I HAVE DONE. 
          THE CITY NOTICES POSTED ON NEXTDOOR IN RECENT MONTHS DID NOT INCLUDE ANY EXPLANATIONS OR AGENDAS FOR THE ANNOUNCED S T R MEETING. 
          THIS IS SHOWN IN THE LATEST NOTICE ON NEXTDOOR REGARDING THE UPCOMING CITY COUNCIL A SESSION NOVEMBER 1ST, EXAMINING THE ALLEGATIONS MADE IN THIS DOCUMENT DUE TO THEIR SERIOUSNESS, DOING THIS IN A SUFFICIENTLY REASONABLE DEPTH AND BEING OPEN-MINDED AND FAIR IN THE PROCESS, THE ALLEGATIONS CONCERNING THE NATIONWIDE BEST PRACTICES AND TYPICAL ISSUES CONCERNING THE ADVERSE IMPACT OF STR CAN BE EASILY CORROBORATED VIA REVIEW OF THE PERTINENT OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS FROM OTHER CITIES. 
          I HAVE ADDRESSED AND SUMMARIZED THE ISSUES REGARDING THE POSSIBLE ETHICAL LAPSES IN MY WRITTEN COMMENTS UNDER THE CAPTION ISSUES AND CONCERNS, WHICH I SUBMITTED TO D S D S T R GENERAL MEETINGS, AND ALSO TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND 
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PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION REVIEWS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. 
          COUNCILMAN, DO YOU HAVE THE LETTER WE CAN PLACE INTO THE RECORD? WE CAN GET ON WITH YOUR COMMENTS? NO, I DON'T. 
          IT'S ONLY ON MY, UH, PHONE. 
          YOU RECEIVED THE EMAIL? YES. 
          SO I'D LIKE TO CONTINUE IF YOU COULD FORWARD THAT INTO THE RECORD TO THE CLERK AND WE CAN PUT IT IN THE RECORD. 
          THAT'S FINE. 
          I NEED YOU TO, TO EXPEDITE YOUR COMMENTS SO OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN SPEAK ON THE I I I OBJECT. 
          MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THIS IS COMPLETELY IN THE RECORD AND NOT JUST PUT IN A FILE SOMEWHERE. 
          SO ALLOW, IT'LL PLACED IN THE RECORD BY THE CLERK IF YOU FORWARD THE EMAIL. 
          YES, BUT NO ONE WILL BE ABLE TO SEE IT BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT, SO THEY WON'T HEAR AS THEY DID THE COMMENTS OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE TODAY. 
          OKAY, COUNCILMAN, GO AHEAD AND, AND FINISH, UH, QUICKLY THE LETTER AND THEN WE CAN MOVE ON WITH YOUR RULINGS. 
          WELL, IT IS A VERY LONG LETTER, BUT IT MAKES VERY MANY RELEVANT POINTS THAT I THINK THE COUNCIL MEMBERS NEED TO BE CONSIDERING BEFORE THEY MAKE THIS VOTE TODAY. 
          SO, ADDITIONAL EXPLANATIONS, SUPPORTING INFORMATION AND ISSUES VALU VALUING NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          NEIGHBORHOODS ARE A MATTER OF THE HEART. 
          MANY ASPIRE TO LIVE IN A QUIET, SAFE, AND ATTRACTIVE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH GOOD NEIGHBORS NEARBY WHO LOOK OUT FOR EACH OTHER NEXT TO FAMILY AND FRIENDS. 
          FOR MOST THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THEIR LIVES. 
          THIS IS WHERE WE RAISE FAMILIES, SEE OUR CHILDREN GROW, MAKE LIFETIME FRIENDS, AND SPEND THE GREATER PART OF OUR LIVES WORKING AND PURSUING OUR DREAMS IN THE SENSE OF THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS. 
          EQUAL CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT, WHICH GOVERNMENT IS RESPONSIBLE TO PROTECT, IN THIS CASE THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT ENFORCING ZONING POWERS, CARING PEOPLE ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND PROTECTING THEM FROM ANY ADVERSE IMPACT. 
          MANY WORK HARD AND INVEST THEIR LIFE SAVINGS IN THEIR HOMES. 
          AND WHEN THEY PURCHASE A HOME IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, A RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT ZONE FOR SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTY USE, THEY EXPECT THAT THE ZONING CODE, LAWFUL USE OF THE PROPERTY WILL BE ENFORCED, PROTECTED BY THE CITY, AND THAT THE DISTRICT'S PROPERTY USE WILL GRANDFATHERED AND NOT THE RIGHTS OF INVESTORS IN STR AND MODIFIED ONLY BY SPECIAL EXCEPTION IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CURRENT CODE WHEN THERE WOULD BE A RESULTING BENEFIT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          RESTORATION OF A DISTRESS STRUCTURE OR REVITALIZATION COULD BE A REASON FOR EXCEPTION IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CURRENT CODES OR WHEN THE PROPERTY COULD NOT BE USED OTHERWISE OCCUPIED BY AN OWNER RENTED OUT LONG-TERM OR SOLD. 
          GIVEN THE ABOVE, WHAT CAN BE MORE IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY GOVERNMENT TO VALUE THAN NEIGHBORHOODS IN THIS REGARD? RECOGNIZING AND BEING SENSITIVE TO THE MANY YEARS OF HARD WORK, PERSONAL SACRIFICE, AND A LOT OF CARING OF MANY THAT IT TAKES TO BUILD AND PRESERVE GOOD AND ATTRACTIVE NEIGHBORHOODS FOR THE LONG TERM, PARTICULARLY THOSE THAT ARE DIVERSE AND AFFORDABLE. 
          THESE CONSIDERATIONS ARE DESERVING OF UTMOST SENSITIVITY AND RESPECT AND NEED TO BE EXEMPLIFIED IN PROPOSED SHORT-TERM RENTAL ORDINANCES. 
          PROCEEDINGS. 
          COUNCILMAN, I NEED TO ASK OUR ATTORNEY, THERE IS A ROBERT'S RULES, UH, BEING INVOKED ABOUT A TIME LIMIT. 
          ANDY, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? YES. 
          GENERALLY MAYOR, UNDER ROBERT'S RULES, THERE'S A 10 MINUTE LIMIT ON PEOPLE WITHIN THE, UH, ORGANIZATION HERE, THE COUNCIL TO SPEAK. 
          UM, ALSO, UH, IN TERMS OF OF READING, UM, THERE IS SOME CONCERN IN TERMS OF THE DURATION OF TIME IN THAT IF, IF, IF ITEMS ARE READ, IT COULD BE DEEMED TO BE SORT OF A FILIBUSTER. 
          SO I WOULD MAKE, OKAY, COUNCILMAN, SO I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO PLACE THE REC, PLACE THE LETTER INTO THE RECORD. 
          CARRY ON WITH YOUR COMMENTS. 
          IF NOT, I'LL MOVE THE FLOOR TO THE NEXT PERSON. 
          SIGN UP TO SPEAK. 
          OKAY, MAYOR. 
          I DISAGREE AND I WILL INVESTIGATE THE, UH, DECISION OF, UH, THE CITY ATTORNEY, BUT I WILL CONTINUE WITH MY STATEMENT. 
          I BELIEVE SHORT TERM TYPE TWO RENTALS ADVERSELY AFFECT THE NATURE AND CHARACTER OF RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          OUR ZONING CATEGORIES ALLOW FOR LIMITED HOME BUSINESSES IN CERTAIN RESIDENTIAL AREAS. 
          UH, FOR EXAMPLE, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO GO AHEAD AND HAVE, UH, ART LESSONS OR MUSIC LESSONS, OR EVEN RUN A C P A BUSINESS OUT OF THEIR OFFICE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT IS TOTALLY APPROPRIATE ACCORDING TO OUR CURRENT, UH, ZONING REQUIREMENTS. 
          BUT THESE SUGGESTED REGULATIONS WOULD DRAMATICALLY CHANGE OUR CURRENT ZONING CONDITIONS BY ALLOWING COMMERCIAL BUSINESS ENTERPRISES IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. 
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NOT ONLY THAT, BUT IT REDUCES THE AVAILABILITY OF AFFORDABLE WORKING FAMILY HOUSING, WHICH WAS A MAIN EMPHASIS THAT THIS CITY HAS COMMITTED ITSELF TO THROUGH YOUR OWN HOUSING TASK FORCE. 
          BY CONVERTING SO MANY OF THESE PROPERTIES THAT COULD BE REVITALIZED FOR AN OWNER TO REMAIN INSTEAD BEING SOLD TO BE TURNED INTO A MINI HOTEL IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE SEVERELY LIMIT THE AFFORDAB AFFORDABILITY OF WORKING FAMILY HOUSING WITH TYPE TWO SHORT-TERM RENTALS. 
          IT ALSO CAUSES A DRAMATIC RISE IN TAX VALUES FOR ALL OF THE OTHER RESIDENTS WHO LIVE IN THE AFFECTED NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          IT ALSO REDUCES THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS TO ATTEND NEIGHBORHOOD PUBLIC SCHOOLS LEADING TO LOSSES OF STATE FUNDING FOR SCHOOLS, WHICH WILL RUN INTO THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, 1000 SUCH HOMES WITHIN THE SAN ANTONIO INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT. 
          AND WE ALREADY KNOW OF 400, POTENTIALLY 2000 IN THIS CITY, PREDOMINANTLY IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. 
          1000 HOMES THAT USUALLY MAY HOLD A FAMILY WITH AT LEAST ONE OR TWO CHILDREN. 
          UH, MEANS THAT THERE ARE ANYWHERE FROM 1500 TO 2000 STUDENTS WHO WILL NO LONGER BE ATTENDING SCHOOLS, IN PARTICULARLY THE SAN ANTONIO INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICTS WITH STATE FUNDING OF $6,000 PER SCHOOL, A PER STUDENT ANNUALLY, THAT COULD BE A LOSS OF NINE TO $12 MILLION TO THE SAN ANTONIO INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE EDUCATIONAL FUNDING OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, ALTHOUGH THE CITY MIGHT GET A PRETTY GOOD HOT TAX OUT OF IT, IS THAT A FAIR TRADE? UM, AND THEY LOSE NOT JUST THE MONEY, BUT THE SCHOOLS LOSE THE COMMUNITY AROUND THEM THAT SUPPORT, THAT GET SUPPORT FROM THOSE FAMILIES. 
          AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PROPERTY RIGHTS, WHICH WE HEAR FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN EITHER BUYING OR SELLING OR TO, OR WHO DO OWN AND WANT TO TURN IT INTO A BUSINESS FOR PROFIT, WHAT ABOUT THE RIGHTS OF THE HOMEOWNERS WHO MOVED INTO THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS WHO HAVE LIVED THERE BY CHOICE BECAUSE THEY WANTED THE BENEFIT OF HAVING A WELCOMING, SAFE, AND STABLE COMMUNITY FOR THEIR FAMILY AND TO RAISE THEIR CHILDREN? HOW MANY OF US WOULD LIKE TO COME HOME TO OUR NEIGHBOR TO FIND TOTAL STRANGERS GOING IN AND OUT OF THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR OR DOWN THE STREET THREE OR FOUR OR FIVE TIMES A WEEK? WE WERE TALKING FOR A WHILE ABOUT THIS BEING, UM, A HOME SHARING ECONOMY. 
          TYPE TWO RENTALS ARE NOT HOME SHARING. 
          NO ONE LIVES IN THAT HOUSE, NO ONE LIVES IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WHO OWNS THAT TYPE TWO RENTAL. 
          THEY'RE NOT SHARING A HOME. 
          THEY ARE CREATING A BUSINESS ENTERPRISE IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA. 
          AND FOR THAT REASON, I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE AN AMENDMENT TO THE ORDINANCE AS PRESENTED. 
          MY AMENDMENT WOULD BE TO CHAPTER 35, SECTION THREE, UH, ARTICLE THREE, SECTION THREE FIVE DASH ONE ONE. 
          IT'S A TABLE IN THE ORDINANCE. 
          IT'S TABLE 35 DASH 3 1 1 DASH ONE. 
          AND IN IN THAT TABLE IT SAYS SHORT-TERM RENTAL TYPE ONE AND RENTAL TYPE TWO. 
          AND I PROPOSE AMENDING THAT TO STRIKE AND TYPE TWO, THIS TABLE IS LISTED AS RESIDENTIAL USE MATRIX. 
          MY PROPOSAL IS TO STRIKE TYPE TWO SHORT-TERM RENTALS FROM RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          COUNCILMAN, YOU PLACE YOUR MOTION, UH, IN THE FORM, UH, EXCUSE ME, YOUR AMENDMENT IN A, IN THE FORM OF A MOTION, PLEASE. 
          YES, I MOVE. 
          I I'M SORRY. 
          IT WASN'T CLEAR. 
          THAT'S WHAT I WAS DOING. 
          I MOVE TO STRIKE TYPE TWO FROM THE TABLE CALLED RESIDENTIAL USE MATRIX . 
          ACTUALLY, THE INTENDED, UH, ANDY, YOU HAVE A COMMENT? UM, AGAIN, FOR THE SAKE OF CLARITY, I WOULD ASK THE COUNCILMAN TO RESTATE HIS MOTION AS SAYING THAT HE'S, HE'S MAKING A MOTION TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE. 
          SO THAT TYPE TWO RENTALS ARE NOT ALLOWED IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS, IN ESSENCE. 
          YES. 
          THAT'S WHAT I'M PROPOSING. 
          THAT'S MY MOTION. 
          OKAY. 
          THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. 
          IS THERE A SECOND? HEARING NONE. 
          MOTION FAILS. 
          COUNCILMAN PEZ. 
          THANKS, I, I'VE GOT SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU, MIKE. 
          THINK, IF YOU DON'T MIND COMING UP HERE. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE HARD WORK YOU'VE PUT INTO THIS. 
          MIKE, I KNOW THAT, UM, I'VE SEEN YOU ACTUALLY DO A LOT OF THIS HARD WORK AND YOU AND I HAVE MET A NUMBER OF TIMES ON THIS. 
          AND, UM, AND IT'S NOT JUST YOU, BUT IT'S AN ENTIRE TEAM 
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OF FOLKS THAT YOU, THAT YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON. 
          UH, I, I KEEP HEARING, I KEEP GETTING EMAILS FROM PEOPLE WITH THIS ASSERTION THAT, UM, UH, SHORT-TERM RENTALS WILL NEGATIVELY IMPACT PROPERTY VALUES. 
          THE FIRST TIME YOU PRESENTED THIS AT B SESSION TO US A LONG TIME AGO, I THINK IT WAS 2017 WHEN YOU DID THAT, WASN'T IT? APRIL, 2018. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          MAY SEEM THAT WAY. 
          I, I GAVE YOU, UH, SOME HOMEWORK AND I SAID, LISTEN, IF YOU FIND ANY OBJECTIVE DATA TO PROVE OUT THE ASSERTION THAT SHORT-TERM RENTALS NEGATIVELY IMPACT PROPERTY VALUES, PLEASE ALERT US. 
          HAVE YOU FOUND ANY OBJECTIVE DATA OUT THERE THAT BOLSTERS THAT ARGUMENT? NO. 
          UM, AGAIN, THE DATA STILL SUGGESTS, UM, THAT IT, THAT SHORT-TERM RENTALS WILL MAINTAIN OR, OR, UH, ACTUALLY LIFT THE PROPERTY VALUES, UH, SLIGHTLY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT'S THE PUBLISHED DATA. 
          ASIDE FROM SOME OF THE ANECDOTES AND, UM, YOU KNOW, FORECASTED PARADE OF HORRIBLES THAT, YOU KNOW, WE GET BY WAY OF EMAIL, HAVE YOU FOUND ANY OBJECTIVE DATA TO SUGGEST THAT SHORT-TERM RENTALS INCREASE CRIME RATES IN NEIGHBORHOODS? NO. 
          WE REVIEWED THE ONES THAT WE KNOW ABOUT HERE IN SAN ANTONIO, AND THERE'S NO MEASURABLE DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF, UH, CRIME STATISTICS OR CODE ENFORCEMENT CASES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          SO, SO IN ORDER TO DEVELOP OUT THE PROPOSALS THAT YOU'VE PUT IN FRONT OF US, I IMAGINE THAT YOU MET WITH, YOU KNOW, UH, VARIOUS GROUPS, UM, OF, YOU KNOW, INTEREST INTERESTED PARTIES. 
          SO I'M ECHOING WHAT COUNCILMAN TREVINO SAID, WHICH WAS, YOU KNOW, TEXAS PROP, TEXAS LAW PROTECTS PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS. 
          YOU MET WITH THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS. 
          YOU DIDN'T, YOU DIDN'T JUST, YOU KNOW, THIS COMMITTEE AND THIS, THIS TASK FORCE WASN'T JUST PEOPLE WHO, YOU KNOW, WORK FOR THE S T R COMPANIES, RIGHT? NO, IT WAS A VERY BALANCED, UH, TASK FORCE AND ALSO OUR GENERAL PUBLIC MEETINGS. 
          YOU KNOW, WE HAD OVER 25 MEETINGS ON THIS THROUGHOUT A YEAR AND A HALF, AND IT WAS A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOOD, QUOTE UNQUOTE LEADERSHIP, UH, A LOT OF, UH, S T R OPERATORS AND OWNERS, UH, AND, AND DEVELOPER, UH, UH, ORGANIZATIONS. 
          AND THEY ALL GOT TO, AND THEY ALL ARGUED AND DEBATED AND, UH, THIS BALANCED ORDINANCE IS WHAT WE CAME UP WITH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND SO, WHEN I USE THE WORDS PROPERTY OWNERS, I WANNA MAKE SURE YOU AND I ARE BOTH ON THE SAME PAGE. 
          AND I IMAGINE THAT YOU CONSULTED WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY. 
          UM, A PROPERTY OWNER IS SIMPLY A PERSON WHO OWNS PROPERTY, NOT JUST THE PERSON WHO LIVES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, RIGHT? CORRECT. 
          AND SO WHEN YOU MET WITH PROPERTY OWNERS, YOU DIDN'T JUST ALSO MEET WITH, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO ARE INVESTORS OR PEOPLE OR LANDLORDS. 
          YOU ALSO MET WITH NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS, RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY, YES. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE ALSO, I, I HAD A VERY WELL ATTENDED TOWN HALL, UM, IN DISTRICT EIGHT, UH, WHERE YOU AND YOUR TEAM GOT TO SHOW UP, AND IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IT WAS, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH THE LEADERS OF THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS IN MY DISTRICT TALKING EXCLUSIVELY ABOUT THIS ONE TOPIC, RIGHT? CORRECT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, UM, I THINK WE WERE THERE FOR ABOUT TWO HOURS, AND THERE WAS A HEALTHY EXCHANGE BETWEEN YOUR TEAM, MY TEAM, AND THESE HOMEOWNERS, RIGHT? CORRECT. 
          WE ANSWERED A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND WE WENT THROUGH, UH, REALLY THE ORDINANCE THAT'S PROPOSED THERE. 
          UH, SO WITHOUT HAVING TO FILIBUSTER MY WAY OUT OF THE ACCUSATIONS THAT WERE JUST CAST AGAINST ME, UM, I TAKE EXCEPTION TO ANYBODY SUGGESTING THAT MY TEAM HASN'T ENGAGED OR CONDUCTED OUTREACH WITH MY CONSTITUENTS. 
          SO NOBODY ON THIS DAIS OWNS THE MONOPOLY ON OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT. 
          WE'VE SPOKEN TO HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE WHO'VE SHOWN UP TO MULTIPLE OF OUR TOWN HALLS. 
          SO WHEN SOMEBODY SAYS, WELL, I DID, I DID, I MET, I SPOKE, IT ALMOST SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE SUGGESTING THAT NONE OF US DID. 
          AND SO JUST, YOU KNOW, WHILE WE'RE PUTTING THINGS ON THE RECORD, RIGHT? UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT NOBODY FORGET THAT SOMEHOW YOU MANAGED TO SNEAK INTO DISTRICT EIGHT AND HAVE A MEETING THAT NOBODY ELSE NOTICED ABOUT. 
          OKAY? SO, UH, WITH THAT, I WILL TELL YOU, UM, YOU KNOW, AND THANKS MIKE FOR, FOR HANGING OUT WITH US UP THERE. 
          UM, SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE HERE, AND WHETHER ANY OF US, LIKE IT OR NOT, IT'S A FAL COMPLETE, THAT THE SHARING ECONOMY IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE. 
          IT'S HERE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AND FOR ALL OF US THAT WISH THAT THERE WERE NO UBERS, THEY'RE HERE FOR ALL OF US THAT WISH THAT LYFT AND AIRBNB AND HOMEAWAY AND V R B O ARE SOMEHOW GOING TO GO AWAY, AND THAT SOMEHOW CITY COUNCIL HAS THE POWER TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE THESE THINGS DISAPPEAR. 
          WE DON'T, AND I THINK THAT HARBORING THE HOPE, I THINK IT'S AN UNREASONABLE HOPE, HARBORING THE HOPE THAT SOMEHOW CITY COUNCIL IS GOING TO ERADICATE AN ENTIRE INDUSTRY, WHICH 
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IS NOW A PHENOMENON, UH, THAT WE'RE SEEING IN EVERY MAJOR CITY IN THE UNITED STATES. 
          I, I THINK THAT'S FANTASTICAL, YOU KNOW, AND I LIVE IN THE REAL WORLD. 
          AND SO WHAT IS THE CITY COUNCIL PERSON TO DO, UH, WHEN THEY ARE MET WITH COMPETING INTERESTS OF DUELING PROPERTY OWNERS? WELL, THE ONLY THING THAT YOU CAN DO IS TRY TO WORK YOUR WAY THROUGH IT AND BALANCE EXPECTATIONS AND BALANCE COMPETING INTERESTS. 
          I BELIEVE THAT MIKE, YOU AND YOUR TEAM HAVE COME UP WITH AND THE LEAST IMPERFECT OPTIONS FOR US, BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY THING AVAILABLE TO US IS IMPERFECTION IN TRYING TO DEAL WITH, YOU KNOW, UM, WITH A COM, YOU KNOW, WITH A, A, A COMPETING INTEREST SITUATION. 
          I THINK YOUR PROPOSAL IS VERY THOUGHTFUL. 
          I THINK THAT I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT EVERYBODY ON THIS DAAS HAS BEEN ENGAGING THEIR CONSTITUENTS, AND ANYBODY WHO SUGGESTS OTHERWISE IS MISINFORMED OR TRYING TO MISINFORM YOU, WHICH IS WHY I'M GONNA BE SUPPORTING TODAY'S, UH, MOTION. 
          THANK YOU MR. TREVINO FOR, UH, FOR MOTIONING. 
          AND THANK YOU MR. PERRY FOR, UH, ALLOWING THIS MOTION TO, UH, EXIST BY WAY OF YOUR SECOND. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILMAN. 
          COUNCILMAN, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER GERRAN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, I, MIKE AND TEAM, I'M GRATEFUL FOR YOUR WORK. 
          I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE DIALOGUE AND THE CONTINUED CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE HAD FOR, UM, MANY YEARS, AND I HAVE TO, UM, FOR THE RECORD, THANK MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUE MIKE GALLAGHER, OR FORMER COUNCIL COLLEAGUE, MIKE GALLAGHER. 
          I'M SURE HE'S LOVING THIS RIGHT NOW, . 
          SO I'M GRATEFUL FOR HIM AND ALL OF, UM, HIS WORK, AND HE DID BRING THIS FORWARD BECAUSE IT WAS A CONCERN OF HIS CONSTITUENTS AND HIS COMMUNITY. 
          UM, I TOO, THANK YOU COUNCILMAN POLA, FOR YOUR WORDS, BECAUSE I KNOW MY RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN VERY ENGAGED IN THIS S T R CONVERSATION, UM, BECAUSE OF THE TRANSITION THAT IS HAPPENING WITH IN, IN AND AROUND DISTRICT THREE IN AND AROUND THE MISSIONS, UM, AS IT COMES CLOSER TO OUR MISSION REACH, UM, WE SEE THIS HAPPENING, AND WE ALSO HAVE, UM, A LARGE NUMBER OF RESIDENTS WHO ARE LEGACY HOMEOWNERS WHO, UM, BECAUSE OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NOW COMING, THAT THEY'RE SEEING A TRANSITIONING HAPPENING. 
          BUT WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP THAT AUTHENTIC CHARACTER AND NATURE OF OUR, OUR AREA OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, WHICH IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT FOR US. 
          SO I WANNA THANK ALL OF THE MEMBERS OF THE, THE COMMITTEES WHO HAVE DIALOGUED AND WHO HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, HAD TO GO BACK AND FORTH, HAD TO COMPROMISE, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONVERSATIONS AND YOUR, YOUR REMARKS, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THIS IS PERFECT, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE MAKE A MOVE FORWARD, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE IS GOING TO BE DOING. 
          SO ON THAT NOTE, I DON'T KNOW IF SOMEBODY FROM, IF CARLOS OR SOMEBODY FROM I G R IS HERE WHO CAN A ANSWER ABOUT FORECAST OF WHERE WE SEE THIS CONVERSATION AT A STATE LEVEL, UM, IN THE STATE LEDGE PROCESS, OR MIKE, YOU CAN DO IT TOO. 
          I'LL JUST ADD, WE, WE, WE'VE WORKED WITH JEFF AND HIS TEAM. 
          WE FULLY EXPECT THAT THERE BE A PROPOSAL OF SOME SORT. 
          UM, I, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THOUGH, WE DID GET A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM AIRBNB AND HOMEAWAY ON THIS PROPOSAL ORDINANCE THIS WEEK. 
          SO, UH, THEY'RE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS BALANCE REGULATION. 
          SO, UM, IF THERE'S SOMETHING AT THE STATE LEVEL, WE'LL, WE HOPE THAT THIS IS THE MODEL ORDINANCE, UH, THAT IT, THAT WE CAN SHOW AS A REASONABLE BALANCED APPROACH THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, PROTECTS THE COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO ALLOWS THE, UH, ALLOWS THE INDUSTRY TO HAPPEN. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          BUT WE EXPECT THAT WE'LL BE DEBATING IT AT THE STATE LEVEL. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          AND I THINK CARLOS, PART OF THIS CONVERSATION THAT WE'LL HAVE IN THE STATE LEVEL IS, IS IT STILL ABOUT LOCAL CONTROL AND HOW THE CITY CAN PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER, AN ORDINANCE TOGETHER THAT MEETS THE NEEDS OF THE LOCAL COMMUNITY? IS THAT CORRECT? SURE, THAT'S CORRECT. 
          COUNCILWOMAN. 
          UM, WE, THERE WAS, THERE WERE LEGISLATION EFFORTS LAST SESSION TO PREEMPT LOCAL REGULATIONS. 
          SO WE ANTICIPATE THAT'LL LIKELY HAPPEN AGAIN THIS SESSION. 
          UH, SO IN THE CRAFTING OF AN ORDINANCE LOCALLY, OUR HOPE WOULD BE, THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING WE COULD SHOW TO THE LEGISLATURE AS A MODEL AND, YOU KNOW, AND REQUEST THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO HAVE OUR OWN ORDINANCE THAT'S SPECIFIC TO SAN ANTONIO. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          AND I THINK, UH, SAN ANTONIO HAS THE DIFFERENT HISTORIC DISTRICTS, UM, THE DOWNTOWN, BUT THE ENTIRE AREA. 
          SO I THINK THIS WILL BE A HIGHLIGHT FOR OUR LEGISLATIVE. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          UH, AGENDA , UM, I DO WANT TO THANK, UM, AND THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE WILL BE ABLE TO GO UP AND SHOW THAT SAN ANTONIO IS LEADING THE WAY ON THIS. 
          AND, UM, BUT THERE IS GOING TO BE SOME FLEXIBILITY IN THIS TO, FOR THOSE OWNER OCCUPIED HOUSES IN PARTICULAR, I WANNA THANK THE NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, MISSION SAN JOSE NEIGHBORHOOD 
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ASSOCIATION, BUT ALSO, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN AND AROUND MISSION CONCEPTION. 
          IT'S A CREATIVE COLLABORATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING BECAUSE WE'RE WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, THE CHURCH PARISH, AND SOME HOMEOWNERS TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO CREATIVELY TO WORK TOGETHER TO KEEP THOSE LEGACY HOMEOWNERS IN THEIR BUSINESS, IN, IN THEIR HOMES, AND USING STR ONES AS A WAY TO PAY FOR THOSE, UM, APPRAISED VALUES OF THEIR HOUSES. 
          SO WE'RE LOOKING CREATIVELY TO SEE HOW WE CAN USE THIS KEEPING LEGACY HOMEOWNERS IN THEIR COMMUNITIES. 
          UM, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          I KNOW MY RESIDENTS WERE GETTING, UH, INFORMATION THROUGH E-BLAST THROUGH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETINGS, UPDATES, SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO MOVING THIS FORWARD AND HAVING THIS PROTECTION HERE, UM, BECAUSE IT DOES NOT EXIST RIGHT NOW. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILMAN GRO. 
          COUNCILMAN P THANK YOU, SIR. 
          UM, WOW, WHAT ANOTHER BIG ISSUE HERE FOR SAN ANTONIO. 
          UH, I WANT TO THANK MY PREDECESSOR, COUNCILMAN GALLAGHER FOR BRINGING THIS UP. 
          UM, BOY, HE KNEW WHEN TO LEAVE, RIGHT? , BUT, UH, NO, IT HAS BEEN A LONG PROCESS AND, AND I THINK EVERYBODY NEEDS TO REALIZE THAT I, I'M, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED WHEN, UH, PART OF THAT, UH, UH, EMAIL BEING READ WHILE AGO, TALKING ABOUT NOT BEING NOTIFIED. 
          I, THAT, THAT REALLY CONCERNS ME. 
          I MEAN, THE NUMBER OF MEETINGS WE'VE HAD IN MY COMMUNITY AND OTHERS AROUND THE CITY, THE MEDIA ATTENTION, WHETHER IT'S A NEWSPAPER NEWS, YOU KNOW, I, THAT THAT JUST GETS ME, THAT SOMEBODY SAYS THAT THEY DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS OR THAT THEIR COMMUNITY DIDN'T KNOW THAT I, I, THAT'S, THAT'S JUST BEYOND ME. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, I GUESS THAT IS POSSIBLE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE CUT OFF FROM EVERYTHING THAT YOU WOULDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS. 
          BUT ANYWAY, UM, THE OVERALL ISSUE, AGAIN, COMES DOWN TO PROPERTY RIGHTS. 
          AND I AM A VERY STRONG SUPPORTER OF PROPERTY RIGHTS, BUT I'M ALSO A VERY STRONG SUPPORTER OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          SO WHERE, WHERE DO WE, WHERE DO WE DRAW THE LINE HERE? I MEAN, WHAT'S GOVERNMENT'S ROLE IN, UM, KIND OF STRIKING THAT BALANCE? I, BUT I TOTALLY AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN TRAVINO AND COUNCILMAN PALA, COUNCILWOMAN GRO, YOU KNOW, WE WERE PRESENTED WITH AN ISSUE HERE. 
          UM, AND HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU SOLVE THAT ISSUE? SHOULD THE GOVERNMENT GET INVOLVED? SHOULD THE GOVERNMENT JUST STAY OUT OF IT AND LET, UH, ENTERPRISE AND NEIGHBORHOODS AND WHAT HAVE YOU SORT IT OUT ON THEIR OWN? OR SHOULD THE GOVERNMENT GET INVOLVED AND TRY TO COME UP WITH RULES AND REGULATIONS AND ORDINANCES ON, YOU WILL NOT, OR YOU, THOU SHALT NOT DO THIS AND YOU SHALL NOT DO THAT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S A TOUGH ONE. 
          SO I THINK WE APPROACH THIS THE CORRECT WAY. 
          WE HAD MANY MEETINGS, NEIGHBORHOODS TYPE ONE AND TYPE TWO OWNERS AND SORTED THIS OUT. 
          AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE DO HAVE A, AN A PROPOSAL HERE. 
          UH, ARE WE THERE? I, I'M, I'M NOT SURE THAT WE'RE THERE YET, BUT, UH, AGAIN, THIS WAS BROUGHT TO US THAT IT'S LAYING AT OUR FEET RIGHT NOW. 
          WE ARE, WE GONNA DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT? AND I, I THINK WE SHOULD THERE, I THINK WE'RE AT SOME BALANCE RIGHT NOW, WHETHER IT'S THE RIGHT BALANCE OR NOT, I, I, I DON'T KNOW, BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE CAN'T GO AND TWEAK THIS LATER ON, CHANGE IT LATER ON, GET, GET RID OF IT. 
          TOTALLY. 
          WE HAVE THAT OPTION AS WELL FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD. 
          AND, BUT I THINK THIS IS WORTH A TRY AND, UH, TO SEE IF THIS WILL WORK AND, UH, MOVE ON. 
          SO, HAVING SAID THAT, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. 
          MIKE AND THIS MIGHT NOT BE IN YOURS. 
          THIS MIGHT, I DON'T KNOW IF JEFF IS HERE OR, UH, IF SOMEONE COULD ANSWER IT, BUT WHAT, UH, DO WE EXPECT ANYTHING FROM THE STATE INVOLVEMENT ON THIS IN THIS NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION? SORRY TO LEAVE. 
          WELL, AGAIN, I THINK, UH, I KNOW CARLOS BACK HERE, BUT MIKE MAYBE, MAYBE I CAN ANSWER THAT. 
          'CAUSE I HAD TALKED TO, UH, JEFF, THANK YOU, UH, JUST, UH, A WEEK OR SO AGO, AND HE SAID THAT THERE IS AN INTENT FOR, UH, THE LEGISLATURE TO DRAFT, UH, STATEWIDE 
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ORDINANCE, BUT THEY ARE ACTUALLY INTERESTED IN WHAT SAN ANTONIO IS DOING TO POTENTIALLY MODEL, UH, A STATEWIDE LEGISLATION OFF OF, AND, AND CARLOS, YOU MAY HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT THAT, BUT THAT'S THE WORD THAT WE'RE HEARING. 
          COUNCILMAN YET MAYOR. 
          UM, WE DO ANTICIPATE THAT THERE'LL BE AN EFFORT BY A STATEWIDE ORGANIZATION TO PASS LEGISLATION THAT'LL PREEMPT CITIES OR OCCUPY THE FIELD. 
          SO THERE, THAT EFFORT OCCURRED LAST SESSION. 
          IT DID NOT PASS. 
          UH, WE WOULD HOPE TO GO UP AND DEFEND AN ORDINANCE ADOPTED BY THIS COUNCIL TO TALK ABOUT THE UNIQUENESS OF OUR, OF OUR CITY AND, UH, AND THAT IT'S TAILORED FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, BUT WE ANTICIPATE THERE WILL BE AN EFFORT TO PREAMP CITIES, NO QUESTION ABOUT IT. 
          AND CARLOS, I WAS JUST, UH, RELATING THE CONVERSATION I HAD WITH, UH, JEFF COYLE AS DIRECTOR OF I R N G R, UH, ABOUT WHAT KIND OF LEGISLATION MIGHT BE CONSIDERED BY THE STATE. 
          AND HE REFLECTED TO ME THAT, UH, THERE ARE LEGISLATORS WHO ARE PUSHING THE ISSUE OF S STR R IS, THAT ARE VERY INTERESTED IN THE, UH, SAN ANTONIO'S ORDINANCE POTENTIALLY BECOMING A MODEL FOR STATEWIDE, WHICH IS NOT UNPRECEDENTED BECAUSE THEY DID THE SAME THING ESSENTIALLY WITH THEIR, UH, REGULATION OF, UM, UH, RIDESHARE. 
          RIDESHARE. 
          PAID LENDING ALSO OFTEN BEEN USED. 
          SAN ANTONIO'S ORDINANCES HAVE BEEN USED AS EXAMPLES. 
          YES. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          UM, THE OTHER QUESTION IS, UM, ARE, ARE WE GONNA BE TAKING A LOOK AT GOING AFTER I, FOR LACK OF BETTER TERM BACK TAXES ON WHAT WE HAVE? GOOD MORNING. 
          HI TROY. 
          IF AN S T R IS OPERATING AND THEY DO OWE HOT TAX AND WE BECOME AWARE OF IT, WE WOULD CONTACT THAT S T R AND WORK WITH THEM AND CONDUCT OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND COLLECT THE TAX. 
          SO WE, IF WE BECOME AWARE THAT THERE IS HOT TAX DUE, WE WILL WORK WITH THAT S T R TO COLLECT THOSE TAX. 
          AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO BACK FOUR YEARS TO DO THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND IS THERE ANY WAY TO COLLECT THAT OR GO, LET'S SAY TO AIRBNB AND SAY, HEY, YOU OWE US THIS, OR, UM, YEAH, WE ARE. 
          HOW, HOW DO WE GET INVOLVED WITH THOSE ORGANIZATIONS TO COLLECT THAT? WE HAVE HAD VERY PRELIMINARY CONVERSATIONS WITH AIRBNB ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO DO THAT. 
          WE WERE ACTUALLY BRINGING A CONTRACT FORWARD FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION ON THE NOVEMBER 15TH. 
          AND IT IS GONNA BE WITH AN ORGANIZATION, THE ONE MICHAEL MIKE MENTIONED, AS FAR AS THE COLLECTION OF THE TAX, THEY WILL ACTUALLY BE DOING A COMPLIANCE FUNCTION GOING OUT AND IDENTIFYING STS THAT ARE OPERATING AND DETERMINING IF THEY ARE, IF HOT TAX IS OWED, WE ARE LOOK, GONNA WORK WITH THEM TO MAKE VAST IMPROVEMENTS OVER OUR CURRENT PROCESS TO ACTUALLY COLLECT AND REPORT YOUR HOT TAX AND, UM, REGISTER AS WELL. 
          SO THAT WILL BE THE APPROACH THAT WE'RE GONNA BE RECOMMENDING TO START WITH. 
          AND THEN AS IT MATURES, WE'LL START WORKING WITH THE, UM, S T R PLATFORMS TO SEE IF WE CAN ENTER INTO CONTRACTS WITH THEM. 
          THE CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE IS THAT THERE'S SO MANY PLATFORMS OPERATING WITH FIVE, THE FIVE MAJOR ONES THAT WOULD, WE'D HAVE TO ENTER INTO CONTRACTS WITH EACH OF THOSE AND STANDARDIZE THOSE TERMS AND CONDITIONS. 
          SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING NEXT WEEK OR ON THE 15TH TO YOU ALL TO START WITH, UM, THIS COMPANY WITH A CONTRACT TO ACTUALLY PUT AN ONLINE PLATFORM TILL WE CAN COLLECT THAT AND REPORT. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT, OKAY, SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT GOING AND WORKING WITH THIS, THESE COMPANIES TO DEVELOP THAT? NOT INITIALLY. 
          THE FIRST COMPANY THAT WE ARE GONNA BE WORKING WITH WILL ACTUALLY BE PUTTING AN ONLINE PRESENCE SO THAT A VERY CUSTOMER FRIENDLY WAY FOR THEM TO COME TO THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ONLINE TO REPORT THEIR HOT COLLECTIONS, PAY FOR THEIR HOT COLLECTIONS, AND ALSO REGISTER. 
          UM, ANOTHER PORTION OF THIS CONTRACT WILL BE A COMPLIANCE FUNCTION TO ACTUALLY GO OUT AND IDENTIFY THE STR THAT ARE CURRENTLY OPERATING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE PAYING THEIR APPROPRIATE HOT TAXES. 
          ONCE WE GET THAT FOUNDATIONAL PIECE IN, THEN WE WOULD FURTHER EXPLORE ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES WITH THE S T R PLATFORMS TO ACTUALLY DO COLLECTIONS ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          CURRENTLY, THE PRELIMINARY CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD, THERE ARE CERTAIN TERMS AND CONDITIONS THAT AREN'T VERY FAVORABLE TO THE CITY, SO WE'D HAVE TO CONTINUE WORKING THROUGH THOSE OVER IN THE FUTURE. 
          SO BASICALLY THAT'S STARTING NOW AND MOVING FORWARD, WE'RE JUST GOING TO LIKE WRITE OFF WHATEVER HAS BEEN COLLECT, UH, NOT PAID IN THE PAST. 
          NO. 
          IF, UM, IF WE ACTUALLY BECOME AWARE THAT IN THE PAST, IN THE PAST FOUR YEARS THAT AN SS T R WAS OPERATING AND HOT TAXES DUE, WE WOULD CONTACT THEM TO COLLECT THAT HOT TAX. 
          SO WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT WRITING ANY PAST, UM, HOT TAX OFF. 
          BUT IT, IT SEEMS LIKE TO ME THAT, UH, THE ACTUAL COMPANIES WOULD HAVE A BETTER RECORD OF THAT AND WE COULD 
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WORK WITH THE COMPANIES TO COLLECT THAT AND SET UP THAT VERSUS US GOING TO A SEPARATE COMPANY TO GO OUT AND TRY TO DO THAT INDIVIDUALLY WITH, UH, WHAT IS IT, 1500 OR WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS, UH, UM, BUSINESSES OUT HERE, THEY CAN COLLECT IT. 
          I GUESS SOME OF THE CHALLENGES, AND JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME INSIGHT INTO SOME OF THE PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD WITH ONE OF THE MAJOR COMPANIES, IS THAT, UM, THEY ONLY WANT TO TRANSMIT THE INFORMATION TO US IN AGGREGATE AS FAR AS WHO IS ACTUALLY, UM, COLLECTING HOT TAX. 
          THEY WOULD LIKE WAIVERS FOR ANYTHING HISTORICALLY TO BE FORGIVEN, UM, WHICH WE CANNOT AGREE TO. 
          AND UM, AND THEN THERE WOULD ALSO HAVE TO BE ADDITIONAL COMPLEXITY 'CAUSE WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE AGREEMENTS WITH ALL THOSE DIFFERENT PLATFORMS THAT ARE ACTUALLY OPERATING IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          SO THERE'S SOME CHALLENGES THAT WE STILL NEED TO WORK THROUGH, AND THAT'S WHY ON THE 15TH WE'RE GONNA BE PRESENTING A MORE COMPREHENSIVE SOLUTION FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          WITH THIS COMPANY HAVING AN ONLINE PRESENCE WHERE AN S T R CAN ACTUALLY GO ONLINE, IT'S VERY USER FRIENDLY AND PAYING AND REPORTING THEIR HOT TAX. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, I, I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT PRESENTATION TO SEE WHAT THE DETAILS ARE. 
          'CAUSE I, IT'S STILL, IT, UH, SO IF I'M READING YOU RIGHT IS, UH, THESE COMPANIES ARE SAYING, WELL, WE'LL SET THAT UP NOW AND, YOU KNOW, TAKE CARE OF THAT FROM NOW INTO THE FUTURE, BUT IN ORDER TO DO THAT, YOU HAVE TO FORGIVE EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENED IN THE PAST. 
          IS THAT BASICALLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING WITH, WITH THE ONE COMPANY WE'RE TALKING TO, THAT'S THE ADDITIONAL T'S AND C'S IN TERMS OF THIS. 
          HAVE WE TALKED TO ANY OTHER COMPANIES? WE'VE TALKED, TALKED TO, JUST THE ONE SO FAR. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I LOOK FORWARD TO THE MEETING ON THE 15TH THEN. 
          YES, SIR. 
          GREAT. 
          UM, CHERYL, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD? UM, JUST TO CLARIFY FOR THE COUNCILMAN, THESE ARE VERY GOOD QUESTIONS. 
          SO THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE PAYING TAXES TODAY AND MANY OF THEM ARE, BUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS SURVEY THE UNIVERSE OUT THERE, BASICALLY DO AN AUDIT OF THOSE THAT EXIST TODAY. 
          AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE PAYING, THERE IS NO FREE PASS. 
          THEY DON'T, WE WILL NOT FORGIVE PAST TAXES. 
          UH, WE HAVE NOT DETERMINED EXACTLY HOW WE WILL COLLECT THOSE PAST TAXES BECAUSE IT WILL BE VERY DIFFICULT TO PROVE AT WHAT POINT, UH, THERE WERE RENTALS IN THOSE STRUCTURES. 
          NONETHELESS, WE'RE GOING TO SET UP A SYSTEM GOING FORWARD DURING THIS PILOT PERIOD SO THAT WE CAN EVALUATE AND COME UP WITH THE BEST WAY TO MONITOR ALL OF THE STR THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. 
          BUT, SO WE'RE CLEAR, SOME HAVE BEEN PAYING, PERHAPS MOST HAVE BEEN PAYING, BUT WE'RE GOING TO SURVEY THE UNIVERSE, MAKE SURE WE KNOW WHO IS OUT THERE, AND THEN SET UP A USER FRIENDLY SYSTEM TO MAKE IT EASY FOR THEM TO PAY AND FOR US TO MONITOR WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE PAYING AND WHAT COMPANY WE USE. 
          I MEAN, WE'LL, WE'LL FIGURE OUT WHO BEST CAN HELP US DO THAT. 
          UH, BUT TO BE CLEAR, THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE PAYING AND WE'RE GOING TO COLLECT EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN. 
          OKAY? OKAY. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU CHERYL. 
          APPRECIATE THAT INFORMATION. 
          THANK YOU, TROY. 
          UM, I THINK THAT'S IT FOR ME. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILMAN PERRY. 
          COUNCILMAN BROCK HOUSE. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          ALRIGHT, LET'S SEE. 
          UM, JUST TRY, YOU KNOW, UH, COUNCILMAN PLY HAS ACTUALLY MADE A COUPLE OF MY, UH, COMMENTS ALREADY. 
          SO I'LL JUST REITERATE 'EM, UH, FROM SLIDE FOUR ON THE PRESENTATION. 
          AND JUST SOME BASIC FACTS, UM, THAT I THINK WHEN WE MAKE THESE TYPES OF DECISIONS, WE GO BACK, WE LOOK AT EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE ABOUT THE IMPACT OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS. 
          I THINK IT'S VERY CLEAR. 
          SHORT-TERM RENTALS DO NOT, UM, DAMAGE NEIGHBORHOOD PROPERTY VALUES. 
          IN FACT, THEY PROTECT THEM AND THEY SLIGHTLY INCREASE THEM. 
          UH, THERE WAS NO MEASURABLE, UH, DIFFERENCE IN CRIME RATES. 
          AND THAT IS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. 
          I THINK WE SEE, UM, QUITE A BIT OF DATA AND EVIDENCE THAT THESE, THIS DOES NOT TURN INTO A PUBLIC HARM OR A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE. 
          UM, SO MY BIGGER CONCERN REALLY FALLS BACK ON, UH, THE COUNCIL'S ABILITY TO COME IN AND REGULATE A PERSONAL, UH, PROPERTY SITUATION HERE. 
          SO THIS BECOMES REALLY AT, AT ITS BASIS A PROPERTY RIGHTS SITUATION. 
          BUT I DO WANNA COMMEND COUNCILMAN TREVINO AND, AND, AND COUNCILMAN GALLAGHER. 
          I, I, I GET WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GO WITH THIS AND IT'S A PROTECTION NEIGHBORHOODS AND YOU'RE DOING, UH, WHAT THE BEST I THINK YOU CAN POSSIBLY DO TO PROTECT COMMUNITIES. 
          UH, AND THAT'S THE LARGER CONVERSATION HERE. 
          I THINK WE AS A COUNCIL HAVE TO START REALLY CONSIDERING, UH, AS WE BEGIN TO GROW THE COMMUNITY, CREATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES AND DO ALL THESE BIG THINKING ITEMS, UH, OUR ATTEMPT TO, UH, MAINTAIN AND CONTROL THE CULTURE AND, AND, AND THE HISTORY THAT NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE. 
          UH, AND I, AND THAT'S THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE. 
          IT'S NOT REALLY THE S T R PIECE, IT'S NOT REALLY AN INCENTIVE 
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PIECE. 
          IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO HOW DO WE, YOU KNOW, PROTECT NEIGHBORHOODS GOING FORWARD SO THEY DON'T LOSE THEIR IDENTITY. 
          ULTIMATELY. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          AND AS THEY, AS WE COME THROUGH EACH ONE OF THESE, UH, EACH ONE OF THEM HAS ITS OWN LITTLE INDIVIDUAL PROS AND CONS. 
          SO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER TREVINO, I, I SINGLING YOU OUT TO AN EXTENT 'CAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE GOING AS BEST YOU CAN ON THIS TO PROTECT NEIGHBORHOODS THAT I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH AND, AND HAVE WORKED ON IN THE PAST. 
          UM, AND I KNOW YOU'RE DOING THE BEST YOU CAN TO MAKE SURE, UH, THAT THEY CAN CALL THEMSELVES HOMES AND THEIR NEIGHBORS ARE THERE AND, AND, AND ALL THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          BUT I CONTINUE JUST TO COME BACK TO IT WHERE IT REALLY WORKS AROUND THE DATA AND THE DATA'S NOT THERE. 
          THESE ARE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. 
          THEY'RE NOT COMMERCIAL. 
          UH, THE STATE OF TEXAS IS GONNA WEIGH INTO THIS, UH, WITH LEGISLATION, UH, NEXT YEAR, I'M SURE, AND BEGIN TO JUST LIKE THEY DID WITH, UM, UBER AND LYFT. 
          AND I THINK WITH UP THE POINT WAS ALSO MADE VERY WELL THAT, UH, THESE DISRUPTIVE TECHNOLOGIES THAT ARE COMING INTO OUR COMMUNITY, UH, THEY'RE WITH US NO MATTER WHAT. 
          SO OUR ABILITY TO REGULATE, WE HAVE TO JUST THINK TO LARGE, THE LARGER CONVERSATION, UH, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PROTECTING NEIGHBORHOODS IS ALSO THESE REGULATIONS OF THE THINGS WE'RE DOING THAT POTENTIALLY IMPEDE SOME OF OUR BIGGER ITEMS WE WANT TO HIT. 
          UM, SO THE MORE WE REGULATE, THE MORE WE PASS ON COSTS. 
          SOMEBODY ELSE IS PAYING THAT. 
          THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE STAFF, WE'RE NOT PAYING THAT. 
          THE RESIDENTS ARE THE TAXPAYERS, THE VISITORS PORTION OF THIS. 
          I MEAN, WE JUST CAME OFF A FANTASTIC FINAL FOUR WHERE THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL MARKET WAS A HUGE SUPPORTING MECHANISM FOR THAT. 
          UH, AND THEY HELPED US PUT ON A SUCCESSFUL FINAL FOUR. 
          AND THE INFLUX OF PEOPLE WAS HANDLED WITHOUT ANY ISSUE WHATSOEVER. 
          SO I JUST GET THE SENSE THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THIS STARTED, I TRIED TO GO BACK AS FAR AS I COULD. 
          AND WHAT I KEPT HEARING WAS THIS WAS ABOUT REGISTRATION, IT WAS ABOUT HOT TAX, AND IT WAS JUST MAKING SURE THAT THERE WAS THE BASIC PORTAL AVAILABLE SO THAT WE CAN ENSURE THAT WE CAN, AND WE CAN REPORT AND USE THE TOOLS CURRENTLY IN PLACE TO HOLD HOMEOWNERS, PROPERTY OWNERS ACCOUNTABLE, CO COMPLIANCE, ANIMAL CARE SERVICES, SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE, IF WE JUST ENFORCE THE LAWS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON THE BOOKS, I THINK WE'D BE IN A GOOD POSITION. 
          SO, UH, I'M NOT GONNA BE SUPPORTIVE OF THE ORDINANCE TODAY 'CAUSE I THINK IT STEPS WAY OUT OF LINE. 
          UH, AND IT, IT, IT MOVED WELL PAST THE ORIGINAL INTENTION AND I THINK IT'S GONE INTO AN OVERREGULATING ENVIRONMENT. 
          AND, AND IF WE CONTINUE TO DO THIS, IT WILL IMPACT OTHER THINGS. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO, THIS IS A, THIS IS A CLEAR ISSUE AS WELL WITH THE HOTEL AND TOURISM BUSINESS IN OUR COMMUNITY, WHICH DOESN'T GET A LOT OF PLAY. 
          AND WE DON'T SIT UP HERE A LOT AND TALK ABOUT THAT. 
          BUT THIS IS, THIS HAS A DIRECT IMPACT. 
          THIS IS BEDS, THIS IS OPPORTUNITY, THIS IS, UH, AND LIKE THAT FINAL FOUR EXAMPLE, A CLEAR, UH, PRODUCT THAT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO CAN PUSH AND PEOPLE ARE INVESTING IN THEIR ST WHEN THEY COME IN, UH, AND THEY, THEY HAVE THEIR PROPERTY AND THEY WANT TO RENT IT OUT. 
          THEY'RE PUTTING MONEY INTO IT, THE FURNITURE UPGRADES, THE PAINT, EVERYTHING ABOUT THEIR HOME, THEIR PROPERTY BECOMES A LITTLE BIT BETTER BECAUSE IN THE, IN THE GAME OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS, THE MARKET WEEDS OUT THOSE THAT CANNOT DO THE JOB. 
          UM, THROUGH THE REVIEW PROCESS AND, AND ALL THESE OTHER THINGS THAT OCCUR WITH SHORT-TERM RENTALS. 
          WHAT IT GIVES YOU IS A GREATER PRIDE IN YOUR PROPERTY BECAUSE YEAH, IT'S EARNING YOU INCOME, UM, BUT IT IS YOUR PERSONAL PROPERTY, IT'S YOUR RESIDENTIAL LOCATION, AND THERE IS NO EVIDENCE ANYWHERE, NO MATTER HOW HARD WE'VE LOOKED THAT SHOWED THESE ARE A PROBLEM ANYWHERE, WHETHER IT'S CRIME, PUBLIC SAFETY, HEALTH OR WHATEVER, THEY'RE, IT JUST NON-EXISTENT. 
          THE DATA PROVES IT. 
          SO WHAT IT COMES BACK TO IS REALLY THIS ISSUE OF HOW WE GROW OUR COMMUNITY AND KEEP OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, JUST AS RESPECTED IN CULTURE AND IDENTITY. 
          AND THAT'S A QUESTION I DON'T THINK IS ANSWERED BY OVERREGULATION IN THIS. 
          I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DIG DEEPER, UH, ISSUE BY ISSUE AS IT COMES UP. 
          UM, I'M THANKFUL FOR THE STAFF WORK. 
          I MEAN, THIS ONE, YOU, MIKE, AND THE TEAM HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS SINCE WE GOT, SINCE WE GOT SEATED ON THE COUNCIL. 
          I THINK WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR A YEAR AND A HALF. 
          AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT'S INDICATIVE OF A GOOD PUBLIC PROCESS. 
          AND WE'VE SEEN THAT IN A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS LIKE THE ALIMO AND SOME REAL TOUGH VOTES WHERE WE HAD TO GO OVERBOARD ON PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. 
          SO I THINK THE PROCESS WORKED ITS WAY THROUGH. 
          I'M NOT HAPPY WITH THE OUTPUT, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'LL, I'LL CAST MY VOTE AGAINST THIS TODAY BECAUSE I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CONTINUALLY DOING THE BEST WE CAN TO PROTECT PROPERTY RIGHTS AND OUR LONGER TERM GOALS. 
          UH, AND LET'S NOT CREATE OR TRY TO CREATE IT, YOU KNOW, I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY, LET'S NOT TRY TO SOLVE PROBLEMS THAT DON'T EXIST. 
          LET'S MAKE THE LAWS WHERE THEY MATTER MOST. 
          LET'S GET AS MUCH OF THIS GOVERNMENT PIECE AS WE CAN OUT OF THIS. 
          LET THE MARKET TAKE CONTROL OF IT. 
          AND I THINK IN, IN STRS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THAT. 
          UM, AND I, AT THE END OF THE DAY THOUGH, YOU KNOW, WAS HARD WORK BY THE STAFF AND THE COMMITTEE AND EVERYBODY DID WHAT THEY COULD. 
          SO I'M THANKFUL FOR THE PROCESS. 
          I'M THANKFUL FOR THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS OFF THE CHARTS TO COUNCILMAN PERRY AND COUNCILMAN PLA HIS POINT. 
          AND I TALK TO A LOT OF FOLKS AS WELL, BUT I'M GONNA FALL ON THE SIDE OF PERSONAL PROPERTY RIGHTS AND PROTECTING A RESIDENT'S OPPORTUNITY TO DO WHAT THEY PLEASE WITH THEIR PROPERTY WHEN THE TIME COMES. 
          SO, UH, THANK YOU MAYOR, AND I APPRECIATE THE DEBATE, UM, AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILMAN BROCK, HOUSE, COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL. 
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THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, A FEW MINUTES AGO, A BUNCH OF US WERE FREEZING UP HERE ON THE DAIS AND I WAS READY FOR THIS ISSUE TO BE OVER AND VOTED ON. 
          UM, BUT NOW THE TEMPERATURE IS MUCH BETTER AND I THINK I'M READY TO CONTINUE THE DIALOGUE. 
          SO THANK YOU STAFF FOR, FOR FIXING THAT. 
          UM, I WANNA FIRST OF ALL, THANK, UH, THANK MIKE AND THE WHOLE TEAM THAT'S BEEN WORKING WITH HIM ON THIS. 
          UM, I KNOW YOU HAVE A LOT OF THINGS ON YOUR PLATE, BUT I THINK YOU, YOU DO EACH ONE THOUGHTFULLY, CAREFULLY, AND, AND YOU'RE DEDICATED TO MAKING SURE YOU BRING A, UM, A GOOD PRODUCT, UH, FORWARD. 
          SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MIKE. 
          UM, AND TO EACH MEMBER OF THE TASK FORCE, I DON'T KNOW IF MR. TONY, ARE YOU STILL HERE OR HAVE YOU LEFT? OKAY, UH, FROM, FROM MONTE VISTA TO EVERY MEMBER OF, OF THE GROUP THAT, OH, THERE YOU'RE, UH, THAT WAS WORKING ON THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAVE SOME VERY COMPLICATED ISSUES COME FORWARD TO COUNCIL, THAT IS, UH, A MODEL THAT, THAT WE USED AND WE THROW ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS IN THE ROOM TOGETHER AND WE SAY, KIND OF YOU, YOU FIGURE IT OUT AND TELL US WHAT YOU WOULD COME UP WITH. 
          UH, SO THANK YOU FOR TAKING THAT ON. 
          AND, AND I THINK THAT REALLY SPEAKS TO THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT JUST GOVERNMENT COMING FORWARD OR NOT JUST US SAYING, YOU MUST DO THIS OR YOU MUST DO THAT, BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, IF THE STAKEHOLDERS HAD THEIR WAY, WHAT WOULD THEY COME UP WITH IF THEY HAD TO NEGOTIATE AMONG THEMSELVES? AND I, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT MODEL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR, FOR YOUR WORK ON THAT. 
          UM, AND I DO WANNA POINT OUT IT WAS HOTEL OWNERS, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD MEMBERS WHO MAY OR MAY NOT OPERATE, UH, AN S T R, ALL OF THEM, UH, PUTTING THEIR THINKING CAPS ON IN NEGOTIATING TOGETHER ON THIS. 
          UM, SO, SO THANK YOU AGAIN. 
          I ALSO WANNA THANK COUNCILMAN TRIVIO AND HIS TEAM FOR COMING FORWARD WITH SUCH, UH, STRONG, UH, AMENDMENTS, WELL NOT AMENDMENTS TODAY, BUT EARLIER CHANGES THAT MADE THIS ORDINANCE, UH, I THINK MORE ROBUST. 
          BUT, UH, THAT WAS REALLY MORE IN THE END, IT REALLY IS ANSWERING THE QUESTION THAT PEOPLE ARE ASKING OF US. 
          SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR, FOR YOUR WORK ON THAT. 
          COUNCILMAN. 
          UH, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE ORDINANCE AS, AS IS TODAY. 
          UM, BUT I DO HAVE JUST, UH, A COUPLE OF COMMENTS THAT I WANT US TO, TO LOOK OUT FOR. 
          I THINK WHEN WE STARTED THE WORK ON THIS, WHICH WAS BEFORE, UH, SOME OF US WERE HERE AND YOU PUT THE, THE TASK FORCE TOGETHER, IT, I THINK YOU BROUGHT FORWARD THE RIGHT STAKEHOLDERS SINCE THEN, UM, THE COUNCIL HAS TAKEN ON THIS, UH, HOUSING POLICY ISSUE AND COME FORWARD WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THAT. 
          SO IF I HAD TO GO BACK IN TIME, OR IF I COULD, THAT'S PROBABLY ONE THING I WOULD CHANGE, IS TO HAVE A STAKEHOLDER ON THAT TASK FORCE THAT ALSO CONSIDERED, UH, IMPACTS ON, ON HOUSING AND, AND HOUSING STOCK. 
          SO I, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD CHANGE THE ORDINANCE RIGHT NOW, BUT I DO WANT TO SAY THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD WATCH. 
          UM, WHEN I GO ONLINE AND I LOOK AT HOME LISTINGS, IF THERE IS A POSSIBILITY OF, UH, OF AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT BEING RENTED OUT AS AN AIRBNB, UM, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT BE LISTED ON THERE AND IT CERTAINLY MAKES THE UNIT MORE MARKETABLE AND, UH, AND IT, IT SLIGHTLY DOES, WHEN YOU MAKE A UNIT MORE MARKETABLE, THAT MEANS SOMEONE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PAY MORE FOR IT, RIGHT? AND ONCE YOU'RE ABLE TO PAY MORE FOR IT, THAT MEANS FEWER PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO BUY IT, OR, AND IT GETS SLIGHT. 
          IT DOES IMP WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS IT IMPACTS THE AFFORDABILITY OF OUR HOMES, AND I WANNA SEE WHAT IMPACT THAT HAS IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          SO I'M GONNA SUPPORT THE ORDINANCE AS IT IS TODAY, BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON. 
          SO, THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILMAN SANDOVAL. 
          COUNCILMAN SALDANA. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          AND, UH, JUST TO, TO START OFF MY COMMENTS, I WAS THINKING ABOUT, UM, UH, A COMMENT THAT WAS BROUGHT UP SEVERAL MONTHS AGO WHEN WE FIRST WERE PRESENTED ON THIS, UH, DURING THE B SESSION, WHICH WAS, YOU KNOW, AIRBNB IS COMING, IT'S HERE. 
          AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS POSED TO COUNCIL MEMBERS WAS, HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF YOUR NEIGHBOR WAS HOSTING AN AIRBNB? AND MY RESPONSE WAS, I ACTUALLY DO HAVE A NEIGHBOR, AND HE DOES, HE OR SHE DOES HAVE AN AIRBNB. 
          SO I KNOW THE EXPERIENCE, I'VE, I'VE FELT IT IN MY OWN NEIGHBORHOOD, AND FRANKLY, IT'S NOT A BAD EXPERIENCE THAT I'VE HAD. 
          UH, IN MY CASE, YOU HAVE A LOT OF FAMILIES WHO ARE GOING TO SEE THEIR AIRMEN GRADUATE AT LACKLAND, AND A LOT OF MILITARY FAMILIES COME IN AND OUT. 
          SO I HAVE AN EXPERIENCE, I HAVE AN EXPERIENCE, AND I'M ALSO A POLICY MAKER. 
          SO I HAVE TO THINK ABOUT NOT JUST MY OWN INDIVIDUAL EXPERIENCE, UH, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND TO, TO ANSWER THE QUESTION OF WHETHER WE HAVE A PROBLEM THAT NEEDS FIXING. 
          I, I THINK WE DO. 
          AND I THINK IT'S ONE OF SPEED AND ACCELERATION WHILE IN, IN MY OWN NEIGHBORHOOD ON THE SOUTH SIDE, I DON'T, I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE SPEED AND THE ACCELERATION OF AIRBNB IN MY OWN BLOCK. 
          UH, I SHOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT THE SPEED AND THE ACCELERATION OF AIRBNBS IN OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE, 
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ARE MORE MARKETABLE FOR AIRBNBS. 
          SO WHETHER YOU LIVE IN, IN OR AROUND THE KING WILLIAM IN, IF YOU LIVE IN OR AROUND THE ALMO DOME OR DIG WITTY, THE SPEED IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD WORRY YOU AS A PROBLEM THAT WITHOUT ANY, ANY BREAKS TO, TO, TO PUT A PUMP ON, THEN YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE ACCELERATING NATURE OF, OF THE CHANGE OF YOUR COMMUNITY. 
          SO LET ME TAKE MYSELF OUT OF MY OWN BOX, UH, AS SOMEBODY WHO'S HAD EXPERIENCE WITH AN AIRBNB, BUT SOMEBODY WHO'S A POLICYMAKER WHO WOULD GENERALLY SAY, LOOK, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH AIRBNB, BUT OTHER PEOPLE DO, WHETHER IT'S IN DISTRICT NINE OR IN DISTRICT ONE. 
          AND, AND HERE'S THE EXPERIENCE THAT SPEED, I THINK CAUSES, WHEN IT CAUSES A PROBLEM. 
          UH, IF YOU ARE IN THE LAVACCA NEIGHBORHOOD OR IN TOBIN HILL, IT IS, IT IS LIKELY THAT YOU'RE PREDICTING THE FUTURE AND YOU'RE SEEING MORE OF THESE FOLKS, UH, LOOK AT YOUR NEIGHBORS AND THE RESIDENCES AROUND YOU AS PROPERTY INVESTMENTS. 
          UM, AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD AS POLICYMAKERS HAVE SOME SORT OF FIX OR SOME SORT OF PAUSE TO. 
          AND, AND I APOLOGIZE TO, TO JODI, JODY NEWMAN, WHO'S HERE, BUT IF YOU'RE EVER IN THE CHAMBERS, I'M GONNA CALL YOU OUT AND, UH, I'M DOING THIS NOW, BUT I THINK SHE EDUCATED ME ON, ON WHAT THAT SPEED AND THE ACCELERATION OF AIRBNBS CAN DO, WHERE YOU'RE ESSENTIALLY LIVING IN A COMMUNITY. 
          UH, AND, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE EIGHT HOUSES DOWN A BLOCK, SIX OF THEM ARE AIRBNBS, AND YOU'RE ALMOST FUNCTIONING AS A CONCIERGE TO FOLKS WHO COME OVER AND KNOCK ON YOUR DOOR AND SAY, HEY, WHAT CAN WE DO IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD? UH, WHAT CAN WE DO SINCE WE'RE VISITING HERE? SO THAT CERTAINLY DOES CHANGE, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THAT'S WHY SPEED AND ACCELERATION IS PROBABLY THE PROBLEM WE NEED TO HELP FIX. 
          AND SO IF WE DID NOTHING, IF WE DID NOT PASS THIS ORDINANCE, IF WE VOTED IT DOWN, UH, I COULDN'T BE HELPING THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS WHO ARE SEEING THIS, UH, CHANGE AND BEARING THE BRUNT OF IT QUICKLY. 
          SO IT, IT'S POSSIBLE TO CALL THIS AN IMPERFECT SOLUTION. 
          IT'S, IT'S POSSIBLE TO SAY THAT WE'RE NOT SATISFYING EVERYONE, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE, UH, REALLY A, A A LACK OF US STANDING UP TO A PROBLEM THAT NEEDS FIXING IF WE JUST DECIDED TO VOTE AGAINST IT AND DO NOTHING. 
          SO, UH, WITH THAT IN MIND, I THINK, UH, WE'RE GETTING TO A POINT WHERE I FEEL COMFORTABLE, UH, WITH, WITH WHAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH. 
          AND I HOPE THOSE FOLKS WHERE ACCELERATION AND SPEED OF AIRBNB'S, UH, GOBBLING UP THE MARKET ARE MORE COMFORTABLE AS WELL TOO, TO KNOW THAT THEY CAN SORT OF CONTROL THE PACE OF THAT, UH, WITH SOME REGULATIONS, SOME RULES. 
          UH, BECAUSE IF ANOTHER MONTH GOES BY, IF WE POSTPONE THIS FOR SIX MORE MONTHS, I IMAGINE YOU'RE GONNA GET A LOT OF FOLKS WHO ARE RUSHING TO GET INTO THOSE PROPERTIES BEFORE THESE RULES COME INTO PLACE. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S THE CONCERN THAT THAT, UH, UH, ALLOWS ME TO SUPPORT THE WORK THAT COUNCILMAN TREVINO AND HIS TEAM HAVE PUT TOGETHER, UH, TO GET US TO THIS POINT. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN SALDANA. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, THAT'S EVERYONE WHO'S SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON COUNCIL. 
          UH, I'LL JUST WRAP UP BEFORE WE ACTUALLY GET TO THE VOTE. 
          UH, BY THANKING OUR STAFF, UH, COUNCILMAN TREVINO AND HIS STAFF AND MY STAFF AS WELL, UH, FOR WORKING HARD ON, UH, ACHIEVING I THINK A RESOLUTION TO WHAT COULDN'T BE A WIDER GAP IN POLICY OR PHILOSOPHY. 
          UM, ON ONE HAND, AND YOU'VE HEARD IT HERE UP, UH, ON THE DAAS TODAY, ON ONE HAND, UH, WE BELIEVE THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO, UH, ENCOURAGE THE INNOVATION AND THE INDUSTRY THAT HAS, UH, ARRIVED BECAUSE OF A MARKET NEED, UH, THAT HAS BEEN ADDRESSED BY SHORT TERM RENTALS. 
          BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, UH, ONE OF OUR VERY IMPORTANT PRINCIPLES AS NEIGHBORS, BUT ALSO POLICYMAKERS, IS PROTECTING THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN PEOPLE'S NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          AND I THINK THAT, UM, THE PERSON WHO CAME UP HERE AND ASKED THE QUESTION, WHAT IS A NEIGHBORHOOD IS, UH, FOR ME, WHERE THIS REALLY BOILED DOWN TO WHAT IS A NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, IF NOT FOR ITS NEIGHBORS? AND SO ACHIEVING A BALANCE, UH, THAT NOT ONLY ENCOURAGES THE KIND OF INDUSTRIES AND RESPONDS TO THE INDUSTRIES THAT ARE FORMING SO RAPIDLY, BUT ALSO ALLOWS US TO PROTECT, UH, THE INTEGRITY OF NEIGHBORHOODS AND PROTECT NEIGHBORS IN THEIR HOMES, UH, IS ALSO EQUALLY IMPORTANT. 
          AND I THINK WE'VE ACHIEVED THAT HERE TODAY. 
          UM, IT'S NOT, IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING. 
          I THINK THAT COUNCILMAN GALLAGHER FILED HIS C C R PROBABLY IN 2015 AT THIS POINT. 
          UM, AND WE'RE FINALLY HERE WITH, I THINK, A WORTHY SIX MONTH PILOT THAT WILL BE TWEAKED, NO DOUBT, BUT WILL, UH, END UP IN A PLACE WHERE I THINK WE'LL BE PROUD TO HAVE A WELL CRAFTED ORDINANCE THAT PROTECTS EVERYONE'S INTERESTS. 
          SO, UH, WITH THAT, UH, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALL THE HARD WORK. 
          THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THE CITIZENS AND RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS OWNERS WHO CAME OUT, UH, TO, UH, HELP US MAKE THIS BETTER. 
          WE LOOK FORWARD WITH YOUR, TO YOUR PARTICIPATION AS THIS CONTINUES TO BE IMPLEMENTED. 
          SO THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER FOUR, PLEASE VOTE. 
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MOTION CARRIES. 
          WE HAVE SIX ITEMS TO GET THROUGH FROM OUR MORNING AGENDA, AND SO WE'LL BEGIN WITH ITEM NUMBER 10. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ITEM NUMBER 10 IS AN ORDINANCE DECLARING THE C P SS ENERGY SHEPHERD ROAD SUBSTATION AND TRANSMISSION PROJECT, A PUBLIC USE PROJECT ON BEHALF OF C P SS ENERGY, AUTHORIZING THE ACQUISITION THROUGH NEGOTIATION OR CONDEMNATION OF APPROXIMATELY 26 PERMANENT EASEMENT PARCELS, TWO PERMANENT ACCESS EASEMENT PARCELS, AND SEVEN TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT PARCELS INVOLVING 22 PROPERTY OWNERS TO CONSTRUCT APPROXIMATELY 29,200 FEET OF TRANSMISSION LINE, STARTING AT THE SHEPHERD ROAD SUBSTATION NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF SHEPHERD ROAD AND JARRETT ROAD, AND EXTENDING NORTH ALONG SHEPHERD ROAD ACROSS MCDONOUGH LACOSTE ROAD, AND HEADS NORTH TO A NORTHEASTERN LEE DIRECTION TO CAGNO ROAD IN SOUTHWESTERN, BEXAR COUNTY, TEXAS. 
          NEAREST TO CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT FOUR, COUNCILMAN SALANA. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          I MOVE THAT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AUTHORIZED THE USE OF THE POWER OF IMMINENT DOMAIN TO ACQUIRE PRIVATELY OWNED REAL, REAL PROPERTY FOR A PUBLIC USE PROJECT FOR THE C P S ENERGY SHEPHERD SUBSTATION AND TRANSMISSION PROJECT BY ACQUIRING THE FOLLOWING PROPERTIES DESCRIBED BY THE CITY CLERK AND INCORPORATED AS PART OF THIS MOTION, THE PRIVATELY OWNED PROPERTIES FOR TEMPORARY AND PERMANENT EASEMENT INTERESTS LOCATED IN BEAR COUNTY, NEAREST TO CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT FOUR ARE OUT OF THE FOLLOWING COUNTY BLOCKS 42 50, 42, 51, 42, 52 43, 17 43, 18 43, 19 43, 20 51, 97, AND 57 37 BEXAR COUNTY, TEXAS. 
          THESE PROPERTIES ARE DEPICTED IN THE OVERALL PROJECT DRAWING MAP IN EXHIBIT A DASH ONE ATTACHED AND INCORPORATED AS PART OF THIS MOTION. 
          OKAY, THERE IS A MOTION, UH, FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER 10. 
          DID I HEAR A SECOND? SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER 10 AS READ, PLEASE VOTE. 
          MOTION CARRIES. 
          ITEM NUMBER 11. 
          ITEM NUMBER 11 IS AN ORDINANCE DECLARING A FIVE ACRE UNIMPROVED TRACT OF CITY OWNED PROPERTY NEAR WAGNER ROAD IN COUNCIL DISTRICT 10 AS SURPLUS AND AUTHORIZING SALE TO ROCKPORT FAMILY PARTNERSHIP LIMITED FOR $217,800 FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONSTRUCTING A DRAINAGE FACILITY AND AUTHORIZING STAFF TO INITIATE ZONING AS NECESSARY FOR THE CONVEYANCE OF THE PROPERTY. 
          FUNDS FROM THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY WILL BE DEPOSITED IN THE STORMWATER REGIONAL DETENTION FUND. 
          COUNCILMAN COURAGE. 
          UH, THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR. 
          UM, I JUST BROUGHT THIS UP BECAUSE I, I NOTICED, UH, THE SALES PRICE FOR FIVE ACRES OF LAND IN OUR, IN, IN THE CITY. 
          UH, I KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT SURPLUS, UH, PROPERTY AND THAT OFTENTIMES WE CALLED UPON, UH, TO SELL IT TO INTERESTS THAT WANNA DEVELOP IT. 
          I BELIEVE THE INITIAL COST TO THE CITY FOR THIS PROPERTY WAS MORE THAN TWICE WHAT WE'RE SELLING IT FOR AT THIS TIME. 
          COULD YOU JUST REVIEW THAT AGAIN FOR US? SURE. 
          UM, COUNCILMAN, UM, BACK IN 1999, THE CITY DID PURCHASE THE FIVE ACRES, UM, WITH THE INTENT OF CONSTRUCTING A REGIONAL DETENTION POND AT THE SITE BACK IN 99. 
          UM, THERE WAS THE THOUGHT PROCESS THAT, THAT WOULD PROVIDE A PUBLIC BENEFIT TO THE REGION. 
          UM, HOWEVER, WE NEVER CONSTRUCTED THE POND. 
          UM, AND JUST RECENTLY IN 2015, OUR STORMWATER STAFF REASSESSED IT, UM, DETERMINED THAT IT DID NOT PROVIDE THAT PUBLIC BENEFIT AS WAS ONCE THOUGHT. 
          UM, AND SO THEY PREFERRED TO DISPOSE OF THE PROPERTY KNOWING THAT THE PETITIONER DID HAVE INTEREST IN THE PROPERTY TO BUILD AN ONSITE CONSTRUCT, UH, DETENTION SITE. 
          UM, WE DID, UM, REAPPRAISE THE PROPERTY RECENTLY AND IT CAME IN AT $210,000. 
          UM, AND WE ARE ACTUALLY, UM, PROPOSING TO SELL THE PROPERTY TO THE PETITIONER FOR $217,800. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, IT JUST AMAZED ME THAT WE PAID 400 AND SOMETHING FOR A PRE PIECE OF PROPERTY 20 YEARS AGO THAT'S ACTUALLY GONE DOWN IN VALUE BY 50%. 
          SO THAT'S KIND OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE CONCERN THAT I HAD ABOUT IT, 
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AS WELL AS THE FACT, UH, THAT, UH, THIS PROPERTY, UH, IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED, UH, IN ORDER TO CREATE AN ADDITIONAL SITE FOR A, UM, A PRIVATE CHARTER SCHOOL, EXCUSE ME, A CHARTER SCHOOL. 
          AND, UM, I THINK THAT WE ARE DOING TOO MUCH ENABLING CHARTER SCHOOLS TO GROW AND DEVELOP IN OUR PUBLIC SCHOOL AREAS. 
          SO FOR THOSE REASONS, UH, I'M GONNA VOTE AGAINST IT. 
          AND, UH, I JUST WANTED THE COUNCIL BE AWARE OF THE DECREASE IN VALUE OVER SUCH A LONG PERIOD OF TIME IS VERY SURPRISING. 
          JUST TO, MAY I CLARIFY, UM, THE SITE, WE, WE DO SUPPORT THE CELL OF THE SITE TO THE PETITIONER. 
          UM, THIS IS A MANDATORY DETENTION AREA. 
          SO IF THE FIVE ACRE SITE WAS TO BE DEVELOPED ON ITS OWN, IT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE ONSITE DETENTION. 
          SO THAT REALLY LIMITS THE AMOUNT OF THE FIVE ACRES SITE THAT CAN BE DEVELOPED. 
          IT ISN'T A LOW POINT OF THE AREA, AND ALSO IT FLOODS IN THAT AREA QUITE A BIT. 
          WEEDER ROAD DOES HAVE A LOW WATER CROSSING. 
          AND SO WE DO SEE THE BENEFIT OF THE PETITIONER COMING IN AND BUILDING THAT ONSITE DETENTION. 
          ALSO, UM, THE SCHOOL OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY IS RELOCATING FROM THEIR CURRENT LOCATION ON CROWN POINT DRIVE TO THIS SITE. 
          SO IT'S NOT AN ADDITIONAL CHARTER SCHOOL, IT'S ACTUALLY A RELOCATION OF AN EXISTING CHARTER SCHOOL, RIGHT? BUT THEY CAN'T EXPAND FROM 300 STUDENTS TO AS MANY AS 700 STUDENTS. 
          AND AT, UH, ABOUT A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS FOR EVERY 100 STUDENTS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT LOSES. 
          I THINK THAT'S PRETTY EXPENSIVE. 
          UM, AND PETER ZONI, OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER ALSO DID CALL AND SPEAK WITH THE N E I S D SUPERINTENDENT BRIAN GUT, AND HE WAS NOT OPPOSED TO IT BECAUSE IT IS A RELOCATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILMAN CUR. 
          COUNCILMAN PERRY. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          UM, I JUST WANTED TO REEMPHASIZE SOME OF, OF, UH, YOUR POINTS, CHRISTY, THAT, UH, IT IS, WE'RE BENEFITING FROM THIS BY GETTING THAT, UH, DRAINAGE FIX AS PART OF THEIR, THEIR PROJECT HERE. 
          SO, UH, THEY'RE TAKING ON THE EXPENSE OF DEVELOPING THAT, UH, RETENTION POND AND GETTING THAT, GETTING THAT DONE TO PREVENT SOME OF THAT FLOODING DOWN IN THAT AREA. 
          SO WE ARE BENEFITING FROM THAT. 
          AND AS YOU SAY, IT'S A, UH, IT'S A REPLACEMENT SCHOOL, IT'S NOT AN ADDITIONAL SCHOOL. 
          UM, I, I, EVEN IF IT WAS ADDITIONAL SCHOOL, I WOULD STILL SUPPORT THAT. 
          UM, AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S NOT ONLY THAT, BUT ALSO SOME APARTMENTS BEING CONSTRUCTED IN THAT AREA AS WELL. 
          SO WE'RE GETTING, UH, HOUSING, SCHOOLS AND DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS IN THAT AREA. 
          SO, UH, I FULLY SUPPORT THAT. 
          AND SIR, WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          OKAY, THERE'S, THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER 11, PLEASE VOTE. 
          MOTION CARRIES. 
          ITEM NUMBER 17. 
          ITEM 17 IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER 35 OF THE CITY CODE WITH PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE FOLLOWING. 
          ITEM A IS SECTION 35 DASH 3 43 I D Z, INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE. 
          ITEM B IS SECTION 35 DASH 3 41, MIXED USE DISTRICT. 
          AND ITEM C IS SECTION 35 DASH 3 0 3 1 0 0.05, A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. 
          OKAY, WE HAD, UH, SEVERAL CITIZENS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, UH, ON ITEM NUMBER 17. 
          I DON'T BELIEVE ANY OF THEM ARE HERE, BUT I'M GONNA CALL THE NAMES REGARDLESS. 
          UH, AND PLEASE COME FORWARD IF YOU'RE STILL HERE. 
          SEAN PRICE, DON HANSSEN, TONY GARCIA, COLIN JONES, RICKY KUSHNER, OSA CULVIN, LYNN KNAPE, JOHN COOLEY, AND I BELIEVE THAT IS EVERYONE. 
          IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT HAD SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 17 THAT I DID NOT CALL? OKAY. 
          COUNCILMAN TRIVE. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          I WILL BE BRIEF. 
          UM, I MOVE TO CONTINUE. 
          ITEM NUMBER 17 TO NOVEMBER 15TH. 
          SECOND, THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR, UH, CONTINUANCE OF ITEM NUMBER 17 UNTIL NOVEMBER 15TH. 
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PLEASE VOTE. 
          MOTION CARRIES ITEM NUMBER 20. 
          ITEM 20 IS AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A CHAPTER THREE 80 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT LOAN AGREEMENT WITH WEST SIDE DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION FOR UP TO $252,410 IN INNER CITY, CITY INCENTIVE FUNDS FOR REHABILITATION OF THE LIA FOX BUILDING, LOCATED AT 5 0 2 NORTH ZAMO STREET. 
          COUNCILMAN GONZALEZ, IS THERE A PRESENTATION? GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          YES, WE DO HAVE A VERY BRIEF PRESENTATION ON THE ITEM, REALLY JUST TO KIND OF SHOW YOU A COUPLE OF HISTORIC IMAGES OF THE ITEM. 
          LET'S SEE. 
          THIS IS, UM, AN ITEM APPROVING A CHAPTER THREE 80 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT LOAN FOR THE BASC FOX BUILDING. 
          THIS IS, UM, WITH THE WEST SIDE DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION FOR UP TO $252,410. 
          AND THE BUILDING IS LOCATED AT 5 0 2 NORTH ZAL ZAMORA IN COUNCIL DISTRICT FIVE. 
          THIS IS A VERY EXCITING PROJECT THAT OUR DEPARTMENT IS, UH, THAT THE CITY IS PROUD TO PARTNER WITH THE W D C ON. 
          THIS WAS A BUILDING THAT WAS, UM, THAT'S BEEN VACANT FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND IT'S HISTORIC AND WAS ACTUALLY PROPOSED FOR DEMOLITION WHEN SEVERAL WEST SIDE NONPROFIT ENTITIES CAME TOGETHER TO SAVE THE BUILDING FROM DEMOLITION. 
          AND THE BUILDING WAS ACTUALLY PURCHASED BY THE W D C AND DAN MARSON WITH PLANS TO REHAB THE HISTORIC 20,000 SQUARE FOOT STRUCTURE INTO CREATIVE OFFICE SPACE. 
          THE SPACE WILL INCLUDE SOME ADMINISTRATIVE SPACE FOR THE WEST SIDE EDUCATION TRAINING CENTER AND THE CHRISTIAN HOPE RESOURCE CENTER. 
          AND THE W D C ALREADY HAS FOUR LETTERS OF INTEREST FROM CREATIVE AGENCIES ON THE WEST SIDE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN LOCATING TO THE SPACE. 
          AND THESE ARE BUSINESSES THAT ARE CURRENTLY LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE AND HAVE OUTGROWN THEIR CURRENT SPACE. 
          SO IT'S A GREAT, UH, RETENTION PLAN AND AN EFFORT TO GROW THOSE BUSINESSES AND KEEP THEM ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN. 
          THE PROPOSED LOAN AMOUNT IS $252,410. 
          IT IS A FORGIVABLE LOAN OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD, AND THE FORGIVENESS IS DONE IF THE BUILDING REMAINS OCCUPIED FOR AT LEAST 80% OF EACH YEAR. 
          FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN OUR INNER CITY INCENTIVE FUND AND THE W D C PLANS TO INVEST APPROXIMATELY $2.3 MILLION INTO THE REHABILITATION OF THE PROPERTY. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU, UM, VERY MUCH VERONICA. 
          AND, UM, I, I ALSO JUST PULLED THIS TO HIGHLIGHT IT. 
          UM, THIS WAS A PROPERTY THAT WAS, UM, CAME TO MY ATTENTION BECAUSE OF DEMOLITION PERMIT A COUPLE OF YEARS BACK. 
          UH, AND I WAS NOT WILLING TO SUPPORT THAT DEMOLITION PERMIT. 
          UH, AND SO A COUPLE OF, UH, DEVELOPERS, SMALL SCALE DEVELOPERS WORK TOGETHER, UM, TO CREATE WHAT IS GONNA BE A, LIKE A MAKER SPACE. 
          AND SO WE'VE SEEN SOME SUCCESS OF THIS ON THE WEST SIDE WITH WAREHOUSE FIVE THAT'S NOW A SHOTGUN COFFEE, WHICH WE WELCOME EVERYBODY TO OUR NEW COFFEE SHOP, 1333 BUENAVISTA. 
          UM, AND, UH, THAT'S GOING WELL. 
          WE ALSO KNOW THAT THE MUNGIA PRINT SHOP IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. 
          UM, SO FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO KNOW THE MUNGIA PRINT SHOP, THEY WERE, UH, LATINO PRINT SHOP THERE FOR MANY, MANY GENERATIONS. 
          THE BUILDING'S BEEN VACANT FOR MANY YEARS, AND THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION. 
          WE ALSO HAVE LMAS ICE HOUSE, WHICH IS ALSO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN ON NORTH STAR SAMORA, WAITING FOR THE REHABILITATION OF THAT BUILDING, UH, INTO A CREATIVE SPACE. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ARE, THERE'S GREAT POTENTIAL ON THE WEST SIDE, AND I HOPE, UH, LEONARD COULD COME UP TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT YOU PLAN TO DO WITH THE SPACE. 
          UM, JUST IN TERMS OF WHAT THE REHABILITATION MIGHT LOOK LIKE, UH, I THINK THERE'S SOME STRUCTURE CONCERNS, UH, AND ALSO JUST GETTING THE SPACE UP TO CURRENT CODE IS GONNA BE QUITE A TASK. 
          HAPPY TO THANK YOU SHIRLEY. 
          UH, MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, THIS IS A REALLY EXCITING PROJECT FOR THE WEST SIDE DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. 
          UH, THE BASC FOX BUILDING HAD BEEN BLIGHTED FOR THE LAST EIGHT YEARS, UH, RUNDOWN A REAL SOURCE, SO EYESORE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          WE WORKED REAL CLOSELY WITH WESTIN HOPE IN ACTION, UH, TO GET, GENERATE THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT TO TAKE ON THE PROJECT WITH WAREHOUSE FIVE. 
          IT'S A REAL SUCCESS STORY THERE IN THE WEST SIDE. 
          IT WAS ANOTHER SMALLER ABANDONED BUILDING THAT DAN MARKSON AND OUR ORGANIZATION TOOK A LOOK AT, UH, REHABILITATING TODAY. 
          THAT IS, UM, KIND OF A JEWEL THERE THAT'S SITTING ON THE ALLAN, UH, CREEK. 
          AND ONCE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS COME THROUGH, IT'S GONNA BE A REAL LITTLE NO NODE. 
          UH, SO WE'RE FOLLOWING 
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THAT SAME METHODOLOGY WITH BAS BASILLAS BUILDING. 
          IT'LL HAVE ABOUT 16 TENANTS, ALL OF THEM MAKERS. 
          AND REALLY WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN KEEP THE, UH, RENTS AFFORDABLE. 
          UH, WE NOTICE IS HOUSING RENTS INCREASE, SO DO COMMERCIAL RENTS. 
          UH, SO IT'S REAL IMPORTANT FOR US TO SAVE, UH, HISTORIC BUILDING IN THE WEST SIDE, BRING IT BACK TO LIFE, UH, AND USE IT FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES TO HELP UPLIFT OUR COMMUNITY. 
          IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, BE HAPPY TO ANSWER 'EM. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, THANK YOU, LEONARD. 
          IT IS, UH, AN EXCITING TIME, UH, TO BE ON THE WEST SIDE OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          SO, HOPE THAT, UM, THIS SPACE, UH, IS AVAILABLE TO CREATIVE TYPES. 
          UM, I KNOW THAT I BRAG ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY ALL THE TIME ABOUT BEING A VERY CREATIVE, ENTREPRENEURIAL, UH, COMMUNITY, AND WE WANNA MAKE THIS SPACE AVAILABLE FOR THOSE PEOPLE. 
          WE HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY, THEY OCCUPY THIS SPACE AND CONTINUE TO FEEL SAFE THERE. 
          SO IT, IT IS A VERY BLIGHTED CORNER. 
          I KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN BODIES, DEAD BODIES FOUND THAT THERE HAVE BEEN, UM, SOME FIRES ALSO. 
          SO IT IS GONNA BE A MAJOR REHABILITATION PROJECT AS WELL, JUST FOR THE PHYSICAL SPACE. 
          UM, IT WAS SLATED TO BE A DOLLAR GENERAL, SO I FEEL LIKE THIS WAS A GREAT TRANSFORMATION AND, UM, WE'RE ALL LOOKING FORWARD TO IT, AND WE HOPE THAT IT GOES AS SMOOTHLY AS, UH, THE TIMELINE SHOWS ABOUT ONE YEAR IS WHAT YOU'RE SHOWING FOR THE PROGRESS. 
          SO I HOPE THAT IT MOVES AT THAT PACE. 
          AND A MOTION TO APPROVE, THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER 20. 
          COUNCILMAN VERAN. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, COUNCILMAN GONZALEZ, I JUST WANTED TO, UH, COMMEND YOU. 
          THIS IS A GREAT, GREAT OPPORTUNITY HERE. 
          AND I HAVE BEEN TO SHOTGUN ROASTERS, THAT IS PHENOMENAL AS WELL, SO I'M EXCITED TO SEE HOW THE CONTINUED MOMENTUM IS HERE. 
          UM, WE IN DISTRICT THREE ARE GONNA BE LOOKING AT THIS MODEL AS WELL, SO, YOU KNOW, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND CONGRATULATIONS. 
          AND THIS IS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF CREATIVE COLLABORATION, UM, WITH ALL OF US. 
          SO THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILMAN VIRON. 
          COUNCILMAN PERRY. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          JUST WANTED TO ECHO THAT. 
          UH, UH, COUNCILWOMAN GONZALEZ, YOU TOOK ME ON THAT TOUR AND POINTED THIS PARTICULAR FACILITY OUT, AND YES, IT IS A, UH, UM, PRETTY BAD MESS RIGHT NOW, AND I'M EXCITED TO SEE THE, THE REHAB AND DEVELOPMENT OF THAT AREA AND, UH, UH, SPECIAL THANKS TO N R P FOR STEPPING UP AND, AND TAKING THIS PROJECT ON. 
          AND SO I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THIS, UH, MOVE FORWARD HERE IN THE FUTURE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILMAN PERRY. 
          COUNCILMAN TINO. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          I JUST WANNA ALSO CONGRATULATE, UH, DISTRICT FIVE, COUNCILMAN GONZALEZ AND, UH, LEONARD, THANK YOU AGAIN. 
          I MEAN, JUST SHOWING WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT GREAT WORK W C D, UH, DC KEEPS DOING ON THE WEST SIDE. 
          LOOK FORWARD TO MANY GREAT THINGS. 
          UH, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING AND I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE TO THE RESULTS. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU COUNCILMAN TREVINO. 
          AND I'LL, I'LL ECHO THOSE SAME STATEMENTS. 
          THIS IS, UH, A GREAT DEMONSTRATION OF HOW, UH, WELL PLACED CHAPTER THREE 80 LOAN CAN BE TRANSFORMATIVE FOR AN ENTIRE COMMUNITY. 
          SO GREAT JOB TO W D C OUR CITY STAFF AND GREAT JOB, SHIRLEY. 
          ALRIGHT, THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER 20, PLEASE VOTE. 
          MOTION CARRIES. 
          ITEM NUMBER 25. 
          ITEM 25 IS AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A CONTRACT WITH SAN ANTONIO HOUSING TRUST FOUNDATION, INCORPORATED IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $159,283 FOR A PERIOD OF 12 MONTHS TO PROVIDE ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES TO THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO HOUSING TRUST, SAN ANTONIO HOUSING TRUST PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATION, AND SAN ANTONIO HOUSING TRUST FINANCE CORPORATION. 
          AND FOR THE PROMOTION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS AND PROGRAMS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          FUNDING IS AVAILABLE THROUGH INTEREST EARNED ON THE CITY'S HOUSING TRUST CORPUS COUNCILWOMAN GRO. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          I WANTED TO PULL THIS ITEM JUST TO, UM, KIND OF POINT OUT SOME OF THE ITEMS ON THIS CONTRACT THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FROM YEARS IN THE PAST. 
          AND IT'S BECAUSE AS WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT OUR HOUSING STOCK AND OUR DIFFERENT STRATEGIES OF HOUSING, UM, COLLABORATIVELY, THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AS WELL WITH OUR HOUSING TRUST. 
          AND I KNOW JOHN KENNY AND SOME OF HIS MEMBERS ARE HERE TODAY. 
          AND, UM, VERO, I KNOW YOU HAVE A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION, BUT I WANTED TO JUST GO TO SLIDE NUMBER THREE WHERE YOU TALK ABOUT THE ISSUES AND THESE ARE THE ONLY DIFFERENCES THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE CONTRACT FROM THE YEARS IN THE PAST. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE AND, UH, SAY ON THE RECORD IS THAT, UM, PART OF THIS CONTRACT IS YES, BECAUSE OF THE ELEMENTS OF THE POLICY, UH, FRAMEWORK TO HAVE THAT ASSESSMENT THAT'S GOING TO 
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BE CONDUCTED, BUT ALSO TO HAVE A, UM, UH, THE FUNDING, THE, UM, NOT THE FUNDING SOURCE, THE, UM, THE ASSESSMENT THAT'S GOING TO BE CONDUCTED AS WELL AS, UM, A FORECAST OF WHAT THE AGENDA WILL BE FOR OUR PUBLIC FINANCING CORP. 
          AND THEN THE INVENTORY FOR, UH, UM, I GUESS I'M GOING THE COORDINATED HOUSING SYSTEM. 
          YES, THE COORDINATING HOUSING SYSTEM, UM, AND THE INVENTORY THERE. 
          SO THAT IS WHAT'S GOING TO BE INCLUDED IN THESE NEGOTIATED IN THIS CONTRACT RIGHT NOW, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT, YES, MA'AM. 
          WONDERFUL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND ONE OF THE THINGS I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE IS I, ONE GREAT THING ABOUT OUR PUBLIC FINANCE CORP IS THE AUTONOMY THAT IT HAS AND THE FLEXIBILITY THAT IT HAS BECAUSE, UM, IT IS ALLOWING US TO GET THESE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS ON THE MARKET IN A, IN A MORE RAPID PACE. 
          AND WE HAVE TO BE FLEXIBLE WITH IT BECAUSE OF, UM, THE BANKS, THE LENDERS, AND THE CAPITAL INVESTMENTS. 
          AND SOME THINGS COME UP VERY QUICKLY THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE PUT ON OUR AGENDA. 
          SO THAT FLEXIBILITY IS IMPORTANT WITH OUR AGENDA AS WELL. 
          UM, SO WITH THAT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS AND I WILL, UM, MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          OKAY, THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER 25. 
          COUNCILMAN COURAGE. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UH, VERO, LET ME ASK, UH, I KNOW THAT THIS, UH, WAS BEGUN YEARS AGO WITH A $10 MILLION INITIAL INVESTMENT BY THE CITY. 
          DO YOU HAVE A RECORD OF HOW MUCH HAS BEEN INVESTED IN ADDITION BY THE CITY OVER THE PERIOD OF TIME THAT, UH, THE TRUST HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE? NO, SIR. 
          I DON'T HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY GET THAT TO YOU AND THE REST OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, DO WE HAVE, UH, AN ASSESSMENT OF WHAT THE RETURNS HAVE BEEN TO THE TRUST OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME? A RECORD OF THAT? UH, AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION FOR THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT, BUT WE CAN GET THAT FOR YOU AS WELL. 
          DO YOU HAVE IT AT YOUR OFFICE? WE HAVE A LIST OF THE HOUSING UNITS THAT HAVE BEEN PRODUCED, UM, AND THE VALUATION OF THOSE UNITS. 
          SO THAT, THAT IS SOMETHING WE DO HAVE IN OUR OFFICE. 
          DO WE HAVE LIKE A RECORD OF WHAT THE RETURN HAS BEEN? UH, AS FAR AS I KNOW, SOMETIMES WE HAVE A PERCENTAGE OWNERSHIP OF SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES, IF ANY OF THEM HAVE BEEN SOLD OR IF WE'VE GOT ANY KIND OF RETURN ON INVESTMENT, UH, WHAT THAT RETURN'S BEEN OVER THE YEARS. 
          AGAIN, SIR, I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION HERE, UH, BUT IT IS SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT AND BRING BACK TO YOU AND THE REST OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL, WILL WE LEARN MORE ABOUT SOME OF THAT INFORMATION WITH THE CONSULTANT THAT WE'RE BRINGING IN TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THE WHOLE PROGRAM? YES, SIR. 
          SO IF IT'S INFORMATION WE CAN'T ASSESS FROM WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE ON RECORD, THAT IS PART OF THE ASSESSMENT, IT WILL LOOK AT THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR ALL OF THESE, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS THAT HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED. 
          AND SO WE'LL HAVE A LOT MORE INFORMATION AND PERHAPS IT CAN SHOW US, UH, WHAT ELSE AND WHAT MORE WE CAN DO WITH THE FLEXIBILITY THAT THE, UH, TRUST RELATED ENTITIES CAN PROVIDE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. 
          COURAGE. 
          COUNCILMAN GRO AND JUST, UM, FOR THE, THE CLARIFICATION FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          I KNOW OUR P F C AND OUR HOUSING TRUST HAS THAT DATA AND WE CAN ALSO PROVIDE THAT TO OUR COUNCIL COLLEAGUES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILMAN VIRON. 
          THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER 25. 
          PLEASE VOTE. 
          MOTION CARRIES ITEM NUMBER 26. 
          YES SIR. 
          ITEM NUMBER 26 IS AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $680,000 IN MIDTOWN TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE TURS FUNDS WITH BROADWAY JONES APARTMENTS LP FOR THE BROADWAY JONES APARTMENT PROJECT LOCATED AT 10 11 BROADWAY STREET WITHIN THE MIDTOWN TURS. 
          OKAY. 
          DO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION? YES, YOUR HONOR. 
          WE HAVE A PRESENTATION AND IF THAT CAN BE, UH, PUT ON THE SCREEN PLEASE. 
          UM, GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          VERONICA SOTO WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOUSING SERVICES DEPARTMENT. 
          THE ITEM BEFORE YOU IS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO UTILIZE TS FUNDS NOT TO EXCEED $680,000 FOR A PROJECT KNOWN AS THE BROADWAY JONES APARTMENT, WHICH IS LOCATED IN THE MIDTOWN TS WITHIN COUNCIL DISTRICT THREE. 
          AT FIRST, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS A FIVE STORY MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT CONSISTING OF 283 MULTI-FAMILY UNITS. 
          142 OF THOSE ARE PROPOSED TO BE AFFORDABLE FOR FAMILIES EARNING 80% OR BELOW OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME. 
          AND THE BALANCE OF THOSE UNITS ARE MARKET RATE UNITS. 
          THE SITE IS AT 10 11 BROADWAY STREET, AGAIN IN COUNCIL DISTRICT NUMBER ONE, THE SITE IS 
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2.75 ACRES IN SIZE. 
          IT WILL ALSO INCLUDE A PARKING GARAGE WITH 447 SPACES, UH, AND, UH, ABOUT 14,500 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL AND OFFICE SPACE. 
          THE TOTAL DEVELOPMENT COST FOR THIS IS GONNA BE 57 MILLION WITH CONSTRUCTION, UH, PROPOSED TO START IN JANUARY OF 2019, AND COMPLETION OF THE DEVELOPMENT IN FEBRUARY OF 2021. 
          THE TSS FUNDING THAT IS THE ITEM OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BEFORE YOU IS PROPOSED FOR SITE WORK, INCLUDING ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT, STREET IMPROVEMENTS, AND OVERHEAD POWER IMPROVEMENTS SO THAT THE OVERHEAD UTILITY LINES ARE UNDERGROUND. 
          THIS IS LOCATED IN AN AREA THAT HAS SEEN A LOT OF, UM, NEW MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT, AND THIS WILL BE ONE OF THE AFFORDABLE MARKET RATE MIXED USE, UH, DEVELOPMENTS IN THAT AREA. 
          WITH REGARDS TO THE TSS FUNDING, THE $680,000 IS PROPOSED TO COME FROM THE MIDTOWN TURS FUND, SO THAT WILL NOT HAVE IMPACT ON THE GENERAL FUND, THOUGH THE DEVELOPMENT IS GETTING ADDITIONAL INCENTIVES. 
          UM, THE CITY IS THE ONLY PARTICIPATING TAXING ENTITY WITHIN THE MIDTOWN TS WHERE THIS IS LOCATED. 
          AGAIN, BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO HELP PROMOTE LOCAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FURTHER THE DEVELOPMENT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          AND WHAT WE KNOW IS A SUBMARKET WITH HIGH RENTS STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE T'S DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF $680,000. 
          AND THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION, UNLESS Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          VERO, I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND, UH, RECOGNIZE, UH, COUNCILMAN SALDANA. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR PRO TEM. 
          AND, UM, VERO, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT ARE THE IMPLICATIONS OF TODAY'S VOTE. 
          TODAY'S VOTE IS ON THE AGREEMENT WITH THE TURS. 
          UH, THE, THE OTHER ELEMENTS OF INCENTIVE FOR THIS PROJECT IN PARTICULAR ARE, UH, THE CITY FEE WAIVERS, SAWS FEE WAIVER, AND I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER COMPONENT, THE FORGIVABLE MIXED USE LOAN BY THE CITY. 
          UH, THOSE ARE NOT AT QUESTION FOR TODAY'S NO, THE, THE ITEM IS FOR THE TUR FUNDED, UH, ITEMS HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I, IF I CAN DESCRIBE IT THIS WAY, THERE'S ESSENTIALLY FOUR DIFFERENT COMPONENTS. 
          AND THE THIRD, THE THREE COMPONENTS THAT I'VE DESCRIBED FOR WAIVERS OR INCENTIVES ARE AGAIN, THE CITY FEE WAIVER, THES V WAIVER, AND THE FORGIVABLE MIXED LOAN. 
          THE FOURTH COMPONENT, IF I CAN CALL IT THAT, IS THE TSS AGREEMENT. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND, AND THAT'S ON TOP OF, OF THE EXISTING INCENTIVES, IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I GUESS WITH THOSE FOUR COMPONENTS, UM, HERE'S SORT OF WHERE I'M GETTING AT. 
          I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT PUBLIC, UH, INCENTIVES OR PUBLIC DOLLARS ARE GETTING IN EXCHANGE AND WITH FOUR DIFFERENT COMPONENTS, I DON'T KNOW WHICH TO ATTACH IT TO. 
          SO WE'RE GETTING THE AFFORDABLE UNITS, WHICH IS A LAUDABLE GOAL FOR US, UH, TRYING TO GET AFFORDABILITY IN ANY PART OF THE CITY, SPECIFICALLY IN THE DOWNTOWN. 
          BUT WHERE ARE WE GETTING THE 80, UH, 80% OF A M I 142 AFFORDABLE UNITS? IS THAT COMING FROM THE TURS OR IS THAT COMING FROM THE OTHER THREE, UH, INCENTIVES? SO THIS IS ALSO, UH, A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATION. 
          SO THAT PARTNERSHIP IS WHY WE'RE ABLE TO GET THE AFFORDABLE UNITS FOR THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT TO MAKE IT PENCIL OUT THE ADDITIONAL INCENTIVES WERE PART OF THAT. 
          BUT THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE P F C, THE INCENTIVES THAT ARE LISTED, UM, IN ONE OF THE SLIDES I MENTIONED AND INCLUDING, UM, THE TURS FUNDING IS GOING TO HELP WITH THAT AFFORDABILITY. 
          UM, THE AFFORDABILITY TERM FOR THESE UNITS IS A 75 YEAR TERM MM-HMM. 
          , UM, AND WITH THE FLEXIBILITY THAT THE P F C DOES HAVE, THERE IS, UH, OWNERSHIP FROM THE P F C IN THE DEVELOPMENT. 
          THAT'S WHAT, UH, IS PART OF THE REASON THAT THE UNITS ARE AFFORDABLE AND THAT ENABLES THESE, UM, 80% A M I UNITS TO REMAIN AFFORDABLE FOR THAT TERM OF TIME. 
          SO BECAUSE THE P F C IS AT THE TABLE, THERE'S A REQUIREMENT BECAUSE THE PS P F C HAS BEEN INVITED TO THE TABLE, WHICH IS THAT 50% MUST BE AFFORDABLE. 
          CORRECT. 
          UM, BUT THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THEY'RE TIED TO THE COMPONENTS. 
          THE FOUR COMPONENTS THAT WE'VE, WE'VE DISCUSSED, THE, THE REST OF THE INCENTIVES HELP TO MAKE THE DEVELOPMENT PENCIL OUT AND THE P F C HAS THAT REQUIREMENT THAT HALF THE UNITS BE AFFORDABLE. 
          AND THERE ARE OTHER FOLKS HERE THAT CAN HELP ADDRESS THE INCENTIVES AS WELL FROM THE C C D O OFFICE. 
          AND THERE'S, UH, FOLKS FROM THE DEVELOPER TEAM, UH, IN THE P F C, UM, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR HERE AS WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO THEY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TURS, UH, THE TURS CAN ONLY BE USED ON SPECIFIC THINGS, AND WE'VE OUTLINED THEM HERE. 
          I'M LOOKING, LOOKING AT A PRESENTATION, I THINK, I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S INCLUDED IN THIS ONE, BUT I'M JUST, I'LL READ THEM OUT LOUD. 
          THE OVERHEAD POWER, UH, IMPROVEMENTS AND, 
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UH, STREET IMPROVEMENTS ON BROADWAY AND 10TH. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND THEN THE SITE ASSESSMENT. 
          YES. 
          SO THREE COMPONENTS, THAT'S WHAT THE TOURS DOLLARS, THE 600, 680 DAYS, 80,000 IS GOING TO CORRECT. 
          AND WE'RE SAYING THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF A LARGER POOL THAT IS, UH, GETTING TO TELL THE WHOLE PICTURE OF AFFORDABILITY AS, AS, AS AN OPTION HERE? YES, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          I WANT TO, I WANT TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT THE, THE AFFORDABILITY OPTION BECAUSE THIS WAS BEFORE WE HAD A MAYOR'S HOUSE POLICY TASK FORCE. 
          THIS IS BEFORE WE STARTED TO GET A LITTLE SMARTER AND SHARPEN OUR PENCILS AROUND THE DEFINITION OF AFFORDABILITY. 
          SO IF YOUVE OR SOMEONE ELSE CAN HELP ME WITH THIS DISCUSSION, 80% A M I IS THAT ATTACHED TO THE HUD DEFINITION, WHICH IS SOMETHING LIKE 66,000 OR IS THAT THE US YES. 
          SURVEY ASSESSMENT. 
          GOOD QUESTION, SIR. 
          SO, UM, I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TIMELINE AND TALK ABOUT THE 80% A M I AFFORDABILITY AS WELL. 
          UM, SO THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT, THE DISCUSSION SURROUNDED, STARTED BACK IN AUGUST, 2017. 
          THAT'S WHEN THE FIRST, UH, PROPOSAL TO BRING THIS FORWARD, UH, WAS PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATION BOARD. 
          SO THAT'S WHEN THE FINANCING WAS COMING INTO, INTO PLACE. 
          UM, AND SO AT THAT POINT IN SEPTEMBER OF 2017 IS WHEN THE DEVELOPER APPLIED FOR THE CCHI P INCENTIVES. 
          THAT'S AROUND THE TIME THAT THE MAYOR'S HOUSING POLICY TASK FORCE WAS CREATED. 
          AND SO, UH, THIS STARTED BEFORE THE CONVERSATIONS AND THE DATA ABOUT WHAT IS AFFORDABLE IN OUR COMMUNITY, UM, WHEN IN PLACE. 
          SO THEIR APPLICATIONS FOR THOSE INCENTIVES OR APPLICATION BEFORE THE P F C STARTED, BEFORE WE HAD THE, THE VERY DEEP CONVERSATIONS ABOUT AFFORDABILITY IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          AND SO BECAUSE THEY STARTED AT THAT POINT, THEY DID USE THE 80% A M I HUD LIMITS. 
          SO THAT'S THE METROPOLITAN, UH, STATISTICAL AREA LIMITS. 
          IT IS THE STANDARD THAT IS UTILIZED BY HOUSING PROVIDERS. 
          AND SO THOSE ARE THE NUMBERS THAT THEY USE TO MAKE THIS WORK. 
          AND THEIR COMMITMENT IS TO CONTINUE TO USE THOSE, THAT THE 80%, UH, AREA, MEDIAN INCOME COULD BE THE, THE BENCHMARK IF YOU WILL. 
          WE KNOW THAT NUMBER CHANGES OVER TIME IF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME GOES UP OR DOWN. 
          AND SO THE COMMITMENT IS TO KEEP THAT THEY DO HAVE A LIMITATION THAT ONCE THEY DO HAVE QUALIFIED FAMILIES IN DEPARTMENTS, THAT THEY KEEP THE UNITS AFFORDABLE BASED ON THE INCOME OF THOSE FAMILIES. 
          SO THE RENTS, THE FAMILIES, UH, WHO QUALIFY WILL PAY OVER TIME WILL BE NO MORE THAN THE 35%, UM, BENCHMARK. 
          AND SO, EVEN THOUGH TO QUALIFY, YOU HAVE TO BE BELOW 80% A M I, ONCE YOU'RE IN THE BUILDING, YOUR RENT CAN ONLY GO AS HIGH TO NOT EXCEED THAT 35%, UH, OF YOUR INCOME. 
          SO IF A FAMILY THAT MAKES LESS, UM, THAN 80% A M I IS THERE, THEIR RENT WILL WILL HAVE THAT LIMITATION. 
          THAT'S PART OF THE P F C. 
          UM, SO THE TIMELINE WAS BEFORE WE HAD THE DEEP CONVERSATIONS WITH THE MAYOR HOUSING POLICY TASK FORCE, WHERE THE RECOMMENDATION FOR MULTI-FAMILY UNITS IS THAT WE LOOK AT 60% A M I FOR MULTI-FAMILY, AND THEY PROVIDE MORE UNITS THERE. 
          UM, SO I DID WANNA ADDRESS THOSE TWO UH, ITEMS, UH, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. 
          THANK YOU, YTO. 
          AND, AND I THINK THE, THE POINT I'M, I'M TRYING TO DRIVE TO IS THAT, UM, THIS WAS A PROJECT THAT IS A FEW, THAT IS MAYBE A YEAR OR TWO YEAR AND A HALF IN THE MAKING. 
          UM, BUT WE ARE CHANGING THE WAY WE DO BUSINESS. 
          AND, AND I, I DON'T THINK YOU'LL GET A DISAGREEMENT FROM ANYBODY ABOUT, UH, THAT BEING THE CASE FOR AFFORDABILITY AND HOW WE DEFINE AFFORDABILITY. 
          WE'RE CHANGING THE COURSE OF BUSINESS ON CCHI. 
          UH, THE MAYOR ISSUED THE MORATORIUM, UH, A WHILE AGO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT GIVING INCENTIVES TO PROJECTS THAT DON'T NEED THEM. 
          AT LEAST THAT'S THE GOAL THAT WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO PUSH FORWARD. 
          BUT, UH, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS PROJECT IS LIVING UNDER A DIFFERENT SET OF EXPECTATIONS 'CAUSE IN THE FUTURE, UM, 'CAUSE WHAT I WOULD ASK FOR, FOR THIS PROJECT, IF IT WERE POSSIBLE, AND LET'S JUST DO SOME THEORETICAL, SAY, I DON'T LIKE THIS PROJECT. 
          I DON'T LIKE THE TOURS. 
          I'M GONNA VOTE IT DOWN, LET THESE FOLKS GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND GIVE US 60% OF A M I BASED ON A SAN ANTONIO DIS, UH, M S A OR SAN ANTONIO, NOT AN M S A, THE CITY GLEN, WHICH IS HERE, HERE'S THE DIFFERENCE. 
          I MEAN, JUST SO FOLKS CAN HEAR RAW NUMBERS, THE HUD DEFINITION IS 66,000. 
          AND THE, THE ASSESSMENT THAT THE MAYOR'S HOUSING TASK FORCE GAVE US IS 49,000. 
          AND SO JUST BY USING THAT DESCRIPTION, SO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA PASS. 
          AND, AND, AND I, I, I IMAGINE THAT'S WHAT WILL BE THE CASE, SO TO SPEAK, TO AFFORDABILITY. 
          LET'S IMAGINE A A A, A FAMILY WANTS TO GO INTO A TWO BEDROOM MARKET RATE APARTMENT HERE, UH, OR TWO BEDROOM. 
          UH, MAYBE THERE'S A DIFFERENCE HERE. 
          'CAUSE I'M READING A TWO BEDROOM APARTMENT IS GONNA COST AN AVERAGE RENT OF 2,197. 
          IS THAT ON THE MARKET SIDE, THE 2000 WOULD'VE BEEN THE MARKET SIDE? YES, SIR. 
          WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE TWO BEDROOM FOR THE AFFORDABILITY SIDE? 
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I DO HAVE THAT INFORMATION. 
          I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT WE, WE WOULD, SO THE AFFORDABLE RENTS, UM, THE AVERAGE RENT WOULD BE 1,128. 
          YEAH. 
          THERE ARE NO TWO BEDROOMS. YES. 
          BUT THE AVERAGE RENT FOR THE AFFORDABLE UNITS IS 1,128. 
          UM, MOST OF THE AFFORDABLE UNITS ARE, UM, ONE BEDROOMS, BUT THAT IS THE AVERAGE RENT FOR THE, UM, AFFORDABLE UNITS. 
          THE 1,128 COMPARED TO THE MARKET RATE UNITS WHERE THE AVERAGE RENT FOR THOSE IS 1,966. 
          SO ABOUT AN $800 DIFFERENCE ON AVERAGE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND LEMME SAY AGAIN, WHAT I SAID AT THE BEGINNING. 
          THIS, THIS IS, THIS IS NOT A BAD PROJECT. 
          WE'VE GOT 50% AFFORDABLE, YOU KNOW, DRILL DOWN FURTHER THAN THAT QUESTION IS WHAT IS AFFORDABLE? UM, AND I WOULD PREFER TO SEE, UH, SOME UNITS AT 80% OF A M I OF THE CITY'S DEFINITION OF 49,000. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, BUT WE'RE NOT, WE'RE 80% OF THE 66,000 NUMBER WHICH INCHES THAT UP. 
          AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO SEE SOME CARVE OUTS FOR 60% OF A M I. 
          SO ALL THAT TO SAY THAT IN THE FUTURE, I, I HOPE THAT WHEN WE'RE PARTNERING WITH THE P F C BRINGING IN PUBLIC INVESTMENTS, WHEN WE'RE DOING TOURS, UM, THAT WE GET, WE EXTRACT VALUE OUT OF THAT TURS, BECAUSE TURS REALLY IS, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS TAKE THE RISE IN PROPERTY VALUES AND REINVESTMENT INTO THE SAME ZONE. 
          AND WHEN WE, WHEN WE GET THAT EXTRA INCREMENT AND PUT IT BACK INTO THESE PROJECTS, I WOULD HOPE THAT WHAT WE'RE REALLY GETTING IS TRUE AFFORDABILITY. 
          TRUE. 
          UH, AND THAT TRUE AFFORDABILITY, I THINK BY DIRECTION OF THE MAYOR'S HOUSING TASK FORCE IS A SMART DIRECTION, WHICH IS TO LOOK AT THE US AMERICAN SURVEY, WHICH IS THE 49,000 NUMBER THAT MIGHT DIDN'T UP, BUT IT CERTAINLY ISN'T AT 66. 
          YES. 
          UH, THOUSAND. 
          AND, AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE P F C, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT 60% A M I AND DIFFERENT MODELS TO UTILIZE TO BUY DOWN THE RENTS. 
          UM, THERE WAS A CALCULATION IN THIS ONE. 
          I DON'T THINK IT'S FINISHED BECAUSE THE CONVERSATION IS ONGOING, BUT MOVING FORWARD, OUR DEPARTMENT, THE P F C, IS LOOKING AT HOW DO WE GET MORE UNITS AFFORDABLE AT THE 60% A M I RANGE, UH, WHICH IS CLOSER TO WHAT WE KNOW IN THE CITY LIMITS IS AFFORDABLE FOR, FOR OUR CITIZENS. 
          SO THOSE CONVERSATIONS, UM, ARE BEING HELD AND GOING FORWARD. 
          THAT'S PART OF WHAT'S BEING INCORPORATED INTO THE MODELS. 
          UM, SO THIS ONE IN THE MAKING FOR OVER A YEAR, UM, GETTING READY TO CLOSE AND, AND START CONSTRUCTION, THEY DIDN'T QUITE MAKE THAT, EVEN THOUGH THE CALCULATION SHOWS THAT IF THEY HAVE MORE OF THOSE UNITS, THEY MIGHT NEED MORE INCENTIVES MOVING FORWARD. 
          I, I THINK THAT'S THE IMPORTANT POINT. 
          THEY, THEY MIGHT NEED MORE INCENTIVES. 
          AND, AND WE AS A COUNCIL ARE, ME PERSONALLY, WILL BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD COME TO THE TABLE AND PROVIDE THAT. 
          IF IN EXCHANGE FOR THAT WE GET CORRECT. 
          SOMETHING AROUND 60% A AMI. 
          SO LET ME ASK THE QUESTION TO, TO ANYBODY WHO'S HERE WHO CAN HELP ANSWER IT, UM, IN THIS PROJECT, IF WE HAD A TIME MACHINE, IT WENT BACK, UH, INCLUDING THE TOURS AS THE AGREEMENT, INCLUDING THE THREE COMPONENTS OF CITY INCENTIVES, WHAT WOULD IT HAVE TAKEN TO GET A 60% A M I IN THE PROJECT? I THINK YEAH, THANK YOU. 
          BECAUSE SOMETIMES I, I BELIEVE WE, WE, WE DON'T GET SOMETHING BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T ASK FOR IT. 
          SO WHAT IF I WAS ASKING FOR 60% A M I? NO. 
          AND STAFF DID LOOK AT THAT, UM, EARLY ON, ABOUT A YEAR AGO WHEN WE WERE WORKING ON THIS PROJECT. 
          WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS. 
          UM, THEY CAME TO US WITH THE P F C 'CAUSE IT HAD ALREADY BEEN APPROVED. 
          AND WE ASKED THEM, CAN YOU LOOK TO SEE WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO MAKE 10% OF THOSE 50% UNITS? UM, 60%. 
          AND SO THEY CAME BACK WITH A GAP OF $1.85 MILLION IN CASH. 
          AND THAT WAS ON TOP OF THE SEA CHIP INCENTIVES THAT WERE ALREADY THERE. 
          SO THIS PROJECT IS VERY CHALLENGED BECAUSE IT HAS A LOT OF SITE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NECESSARY. 
          IT ALSO HAD SOME ENVIRONMENT ISSUES THAT THEY HAD TO CLEAN UP. 
          AND SO IT ALREADY HAS SOME FINANCIAL CONSTRAINTS TO IT. 
          AND WE ASKED 'EM TO COME BACK AND LOOK AT THAT 10% REQUIREMENT. 
          IT WAS ADDITIONAL $1.85 MILLION IN CASH. 
          A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS, UH, LORI ARE, BUT FOR LIKE, BUT FOR THE CITIES COMING IN, YES. 
          IT WOULDN'T HAPPEN. 
          WHAT'S YOUR PREDICTION ON, ON A PROJECT LIKE THIS? IF, IF WE, WE HOLD THE LINE AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, IF YOU CAN'T MAKE THAT GAP WORK, UM, ONE OF TWO THINGS IS POSSIBLE, THE PROJECT DOESN'T HAPPEN AT ALL MM-HMM. 
          , OR YOU TELL US HOW MUCH MORE IT NEEDS. 
          THIS PROJECT WOULD NOT HAPPEN WITHOUT THE CITY INCENTIVES. 
          THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO RIGHTSIZE IT. 
          IT HAS TOO MANY CONSTRAINTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND THE UTILITY BURIAL AND THE OTHER PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NECESSARY. 
          AND SO N R P WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO THIS PROJECT. 
          SO I, I THINK THAT'S ONE ALTERNATIVE. 
          THAT'S TRUE. 
          MM-HMM. 
           PROJECT WILL NOT HAPPEN. 
          BUT I ALSO THINK THAT IF THE CITY CAME TO THE TABLE WITH, WITH MORE OPPORTUNITY, MORE MONEY, MORE RESOURCES, MORE OF A, OF A, OF AN AGREEMENT ON THE TOURS MM-HMM. 
          , UH, THAT THEY MIGHT GET MORE CREATIVE. 
          IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL HAVE THOUGHT IF THE CITY HAD AN ADDITIONAL $1.85 MILLION IN CASH TO PROVIDE THE PROJECT OR THE P F C OR THE P F C, THEY COULD MAKE THAT 10% 
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AT 60% MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO, AND AS A POLICY ISSUE, AND WE DON'T HAVE, THE INNER CITY INCENTIVE FUND DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH MONEY. 
          WE RECEIVE $2 MILLION ANNUALLY. 
          AND THAT GOES TO PROJECTS LIKE THE PRISCILLA FOX PROJECT THAT WE JUST APPROVED. 
          IT HELPS FUND SAGE, W D C AND OTHER ENTITIES THAT WE SUPPORT. 
          SO WE DO NOT HAVE A POT OF FUNDING TO HELP WITH THAT AFFORDABILITY GAP. 
          LET'S SUBMIT TO THE FACT WE DON'T HAVE A POT OF FUNDING FOR THAT MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO WE'LL RULE THAT OUT. 
          UM, BUT WE DO, WE DO LOOK AT THE P F C FOR OTHER ALTERNATIVES TO MM-HMM. 
           TO MAKE THINGS WORK. 
          AND, UH, IS IT POSSIBLE TO CONSIDER THAT THE P F C MIGHT BE AN ALTERNATIVE WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO FIND THOSE GAPS WHEN WE REALLY WANNA PUSH MM-HMM. 
          ? 'CAUSE I THINK IN THE FUTURE, WE REALLY ARE GONNA WANNA PUSH FOR 60% A M I OR 80% A M I, NOT 50% OF THE UNITS, BUT MAYBE 25. 
          UH, DO YOU SEE THE P F C AS AN OPTION FOR THAT? WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, THE P F C HAS BEEN LOOKING AT. 
          DOES VERONICA SOTO DISCUSS LOOKING TO SEE HOW THEY COULD CREATE A TIERED OR BUY DOWN SYSTEM WHERE THEY MAKE MORE UNITS AT A 60% AFFORDABILITY ONCE THEY CAN SEE HOW THE RENTS AND THE PROJECT PERFORMS? SO THAT IS A PATH THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND I'LL WRAP UP HERE. 
          UH, COUNCILMAN, JUST THE LAST POINT, UH, I GUESS ON THIS IS, IS, UM, THINKING ABOUT A PROJECT, UM, I CAN'T RECALL THE NAME OF IT. 
          IT WAS, UH, WRITTEN ABOUT WHERE THERE WAS A 9% TAX CREDIT WHERE WE ARE GONNA HAVE SOME 60% A M I, UH, UNITS IN IT. 
          UH, THAT'S, THAT'S A STATE, UH, GRANT OR OPPORTUNITY TO GET TO 9% IN THAT PROJECT. 
          DID IT LOOK LIKE THIS ONE WHERE WE HAVE CITY INCENTIVES, P F C AND THEN ANOTHER COMPONENT WITH THE 9% TAX CREDIT? YES. 
          AND SO WITH THE 9% TAX CREDIT, WE ARE WORKING ON ONE RIGHT NOW WHERE THERE IS SEVERAL LEVELS OF AFFORDABILITY THAT ARE STACKED. 
          IT'S ABOUT A HUNDRED UNITS, AND IT HAS CUTS AS BELOW AS 30%. 
          MM-HMM. 
           OF A M I, BUT THE TAX CREDIT PROVIDES IT, 9% OF THE PROJECT COSTS ANNUALLY FOR A 10 YEAR PERIOD. 
          AND THEN THE CITY INCENTIVES HELP WITH THAT PROJECT AS WELL. 
          SO IT'S A STACKING OF OUR INCENTIVES THAT HELP PROVIDE THIS DEEPER AFFORDABILITY. 
          SO THE SEED CHIP WHEN PARTNERED WITH A P F C OR WHEN PARTNERED WITH A TAX CREDIT PROJECT, CAN HELP WITH THAT GREATER AFFORDABILITY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I, I THINK WHAT THAT TELLS ME IS THAT THERE, UH, WITH ENOUGH CREATIVITY OR ENOUGH OPTIONS, THE STATE HAS COME INTO PLAY ON THESE THINGS. 
          UH, THEY, WE ARE ABLE TO DRIVE AFFORDABILITY EVEN TO THE LEVEL OF A, OF A 60% A M I PROJECT, UH, IN THIS CASE. 
          YOU KNOW, I THINK WHAT I, WHAT I WANTED WITH THIS DISCUSSION WAS TO AT LEAST INFORM THE FUTURE OF, UH, PROJECTS THAT, UH, IF, IF THE STATE IS NOT AVAILABLE, MAYBE THE CITY'S INCENTIVES BECOME OPTIONS. 
          AND I THINK THEY HAVE BEEN THROUGH CCHI P AND WHEN THOSE ARE COMBINED WITH SOME, SOMEONE LIKE THE P F C, WE SEE WE CAN DRIVE AFFORDABILITY. 
          IN FACT, WE REQUIRE IT 50% WHEN THE P F C COMES TO THE TABLE. 
          UM, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT WE'RE, WE'RE CHANGING THE COURSE OF BUSINESS. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING. 
          AND, AND I DO THINK WE JUST NEED TO START HOLDING THE LINE ON IMPORTANT ITEMS, 60% A M I, USING THE, THE, THE 49%, 49,000 A M I VERSUS THE 66,000. 
          BECAUSE I THINK THINK IT HAS IMPLICATIONS, UM, FOR AFFORDABILITY IN OUR DOWNTOWN. 
          SO WHEN WE EXPAND THAT AFFORDABILITY, WE NEED TO DRIVE DOWN RENTS. 
          AND YOU DRIVE DOWN RENTS BY USING INCENTIVES OR DOLLARS STATE OR OTHERWISE. 
          UM, AND I THINK I WANT MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE CAN GET CREATIVE WHEN THE STATE ISN'T ABLE TO COME TO PLAY, BECAUSE THERE IS A TON OF APPLICATION AND A TON OF APPETITE FOR THE 9%. 
          'CAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS, I MEAN, 50 APPLICATIONS, AND FOR EVERYONE, THE NUMBER'S PROBABLY HIGHER. 
          I ALMOST WANNA KNOW WHAT THE CITY COULD DO TO REPLACE, BECAUSE WE HAVE SUCH A PIPELINE OF PROJECTS THAT WANT THAT 9%. 
          UH, IF WE CAME TO THEM AND SAID, LOOK, IF YOU BUILD IN THE DOWNTOWN, IF YOU'RE BUILDING IN THE AREA, WHAT'S THE NUMBER THAT THE CITY WOULD NEED TO COME TO TO MAKE UP FOR A FAILED APPLICATION FOR THE 9% OF THE STATE? BECAUSE I REALLY LIKE THAT PROJECT THAT'S OPENING UP. 
          UM, YOU, YOU MUST KNOW IT. 
          I DON'T KNOW IT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. 
          UM, LISA, UH, UH, LORI, IT'S THE PROJECT BY THE MUSEUM REACH. 
          IT'S THE MUSEUM RESIDENTS BY ALAMO GROUP. 
          IT'S A GREAT PROJECT. 
          AND THAT'S BEEN A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE SEA CHIP, THE MUSEUM REACH. 
          YEAH. 
          THE, IT'S BEEN A GREAT PARTNERSHIP WITH INNER CITY INCENTIVE FUNDS YEAH. 
          AS WELL AS THE CCHI AND THE TOURIST FUNDS. 
          AND IT'S HELPED IT WORK BECAUSE IT HAS THAT 9% TAX CREDIT COMPONENT IN IT. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND I, I JUST TRULY THINK THAT'S THE FUTURE, UM, OF, OF, OF A DOWNTOWN THAT YOU REALLY WANNA CALL VIBRANT, BECAUSE YOU HAVE FOLKS PAYING, YOU KNOW, $1,500 A UNIT. 
          UM, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE FOLKS WHO MIGHT BE PAYING $300 MM-HMM. 
           A UNIT THAT'S THE SERVICE INDUSTRY WORKER. 
          THAT'S SOMEBODY WHO'S A MM-HMM. 
           A NURSE IN, AT, AT THE HOSPITALS DOWNTOWN. 
          SO THAT'S MY ONLY POINT. 
          AND I THINK WE ARE, WE CAN GET FOLKS TO GET A LITTLE MORE CREATIVE WHEN WE ASK THEM TO. 
          AND, AND I THINK WE'RE GETTING THERE AND, AND THROWING OUT THE OLD PLAYBOOK. 
          SO, UM, THOSE, THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS ABOUT THIS. 
          JUST TO, TO MAKE THE CASE ON A SPECIFIC ITEM THAT HELPS US UNDERSTAND TO THE FUTURE. 
          THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. 
          THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. 
          UH, COUNCILMAN TREVINO. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR PERAM. 
          UM, SO I DO WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS AND, AND I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO BE CREATIVE, BUT IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO BE REALISTIC. 
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UM, LET'S, LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THESE INCENTIVES ARE PROVIDING. 
          UH, THIS IS SOME RIGHT OF WAY IMPROVEMENTS. 
          HOW, WHO CAN ANSWER HOW, HOW ARE THEY, HOW ARE THEY DOVETAILING WITH THE, WITH THE BOND IMPROVEMENTS FOR BROADWAY? SO, UM, THE MIDTOWN TS BOARD IS VERY ACTIVE, UM, IN MANY OF THE PUBLIC MEETINGS AND COMMITTEES THAT PERTAIN TO THE BROADWAY CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENTS. 
          SO THEY HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT, AND ALL THE COORDINATION WOULD HAPPEN WITH THE T C I STAFF THAT'S DOING THAT. 
          SO THERE'S A LOT OF COORDINATION AND A LOT OF INTEREST FROM THE MIDTOWN TOUR BOARD THAT THOSE ENHANCEMENTS WITH THE BOND, UM, HELP THE OVERALL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OF THE AREA. 
          SO THERE'S A LOT OF CONVERSATION. 
          SO THERE'S A LOT OF COORDINATION. 
          YES, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S ALSO CRITICAL. 
          SO I THINK WHAT'S ALSO HELPFUL IS WE WE'RE HELPING TO DIRECT SOME OF THAT, WOULD YOU SAY? WELL, THE, THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, COORDINATION, AS I'VE STATED, AND EVEN THE MIDTOWN TURS BOARD WANTS TO MAKE SURE THEIR INVESTMENTS ENHANCE, UM, THE PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE BOOKS ALREADY. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE COORDINATING WITH, WITH BOND PROJECTS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THAT AREA. 
          AND I THINK ANOTHER CRITICAL, UH, POINT, UH, TO MAKE IS THAT, UH, AS WAS POINTED OUT, THESE ARE LAYERED AND, UM, NOT ALL LOCATIONS ARE CREATED ALIKE. 
          AND SO I, I JUST, I WANT US TO ALSO BE MINDFUL THAT, UH, WE, WE NEED TO, WE, WE NEED TO LOOK AT AS MUCH OF A COORDINATED EFFORT AS POSSIBLE THAT IT ALSO INCLUDES THE, THE UNDERSTANDING OF LAND VALUES AND HOW THEY IMPACT AFFORDABILITY. 
          AND, AND I WANT US, I WANT OUR DOLLARS TO GO FURTHER IN, IN AREAS WHERE WE'RE LOOKING TO, TO INVEST THOSE, THOSE P F C DOLLARS, THOSE INCENTIVES, UM, ALSO, UH, TAX CREDITS AND SO FORTH. 
          SO I JUST, I THINK THAT THIS IS A, A, A GOOD PROJECT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK WHAT IT'S REALLY SHOWING US IS THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, NOT ALL SITES ARE CREATED EQUAL, AND WE CAN, WE CAN, UH, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ADDING AN ADDITIONAL, UH, UNDERSTANDING OF HOW LAND VALUES ARE PRODUCING OR CREATING, UH, ADDITIONAL STRESS OR TENSION IN, IN THE ABILITY TO DO, UH, MORE AFFORDABILITY. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S, IT NEEDS TO BE PART OF OUR CALCULUS. 
          AND I CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN SALANO. 
          WE NEED TO LOOK FOR WAYS TO, TO FIND, UH, AFFORDABILITY WITHIN THESE PROJECTS. 
          I JUST THINK WE CAN ALSO, UH, BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT WHERE THAT LOCATION IS. 
          A, UH, ONE LOCATION IS NOT NECESSARILY EQUAL TO THE OTHER, AND I THINK THAT IS GONNA MAKE AN IMPACT. 
          SO THAT BEING SAID, UH, I, MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, ITEM NUMBER 26, A MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND SECONDED TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 26, UH, COUNCILWOMAN SALDANA. 
          OH, I'M SORRY. 
          COUNCILMAN SANDOVAL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I'M NOT TRYING TO MARRY YOU TWO . 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, MAYOR . 
          HOWEVER, I WILL BE ECHOING SOME OF, UH, COUNCILMAN SAND'S, UH, COMMENTS. 
          UH, BE, UM, IF YOU CAN HIKE IT ON UP. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, I THINK THIS PROJECT'S REALLY EXCITING. 
          UH, IT, THE LOCATION IS, IS VERY ENTICING. 
          AND, UH, AND I, I THINK IT'LL BE BEAUTIFUL ONCE IT'S ALL DONE. 
          UH, BUT I DID HEAR YOU SAY SOMETHING THAT WAS CONCERNING, UH, TO ME. 
          YOU SAID THAT IN THE FUTURE AS, UH, AS A M I CHANGES, UM, THAT IT WILL, THE RENTS WILL BE LIMITED TO, YOU SAID 35%. 
          SO I KNOW, UM, I, I THINK THAT WHAT THE NUMBER WE WERE USING DURING THE PROCESS OF THE POLICY YEAH. 
          WAS 30%. 
          COULD YOU EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE? SURE. 
          I WAS INCLUDING THE TRANSPORTATION COST IN THERE. 
          35 IS ONCE YOU FACTOR TRANSPORTATION COSTS, UH, INTO THE CALCULATION. 
          BUT WE KNOW THE DEFINITION OF AFFORDABLE IS THAT NO MORE THAN 30% OF A FAMILY'S INCOME IS GOING TOWARD HOUSING COSTS. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, AND THANKS FOR BRINGING THAT UP. 
          35%. 
          UM, I KNOW TODAY WE'RE ONLY VOTING ON THE TS PORTION. 
          AND IN THE FUTURE, ACCORDING TO THE MEMO, IT SAYS THE PROJECT WILL APPLY FOR FEE WAIVERS. 
          SO FOR CITY FEE WAIVERS AND FOR SAS FEE WAIVERS AND THE FORGIVABLE MIXED USE LOAN, THOSE WILL COME AT A LATER TIME TO COUNCIL. 
          IS THAT RIGHT? COUNCIL COUNCILWOMAN? THAT, THAT IS ACTUALLY INCORRECT. 
          UM, THIS PROJECT WAS ONE OF THE LAST PROJECTS TO GO THROUGH THE CENTER CITY HOUSING INCENTIVE POLICY BEFORE THERE WAS A MORATORIUM. 
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AND SO THOSE INCENTIVES, UM, ARE PROVIDED AS OF RIGHT. 
          SO THEY WILL RECEIVE THOSE NOW FUTURE PROJECTS, UM, ONCE WE COME BACK WITH A CCHI PROGRAM, UM, THOSE, UM, YOU'LL HAVE TO REPROVE THE NEW POLICY BEFORE WE CAN PROVIDE MORE FEE WAIVERS. 
          BUT THIS PROJECT ALREADY HAS THE P F C APPROVAL AND IT ALREADY HAS THE CCHI INCENTIVES. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, YES, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT DISCUSSION. 
          THANK ON, ON THAT IN THE FUTURE. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          THE LANGUAGE WAS JUST NOT CLEAR, BUT THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. 
          UM, ONE THING THAT I, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, AND YOU MAY NOT HAVE THIS NUMBER OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, BERO, BUT CERTAINLY AS WE GO FORWARD, UM, YOU MENTIONED THE COST OF TRANSPORTATION IN, IN HOUSING. 
          UH, THERE'S ALSO A COST OF TRANSPORTATION WHEN WE BUILD. 
          AND THE FACT THAT THERE'S A CERTAIN NUMBER OF, UM, PARKING UNITS THAT ARE, THAT ARE PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, UH, ARE PARKING SPACES THAT ARE PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO EACH UNIT WILL HAVE A SET NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES ASSIGNED TO IT. 
          UH, THE DEVELOPER'S HERE TO ANSWER THAT, BUT THERE ARE 400 AND, UH, 47 PARKING SPACES ATTACHED TO THIS BUILDING. 
          BUT IF THE DEVELOPER CAN TALK ABOUT, UM, HOW THE UNITS ARE TIED TO THE THANK YOU PARKING. 
          IS THAT OKAY, TRAVIS? SURE. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. 
          UH, TRAVIS SHEFFIELD WITH THE N R P GROUP. 
          UH, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ON PARKING, UH, THERE ARE 447 SPACES TOTAL. 
          UH, THIS IS A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. 
          THERE'S ALMOST 15,000 FEET OF, UH, RETAIL AND, UH, BASICALLY 387 OF THE 4 87, OR SORRY, 380 OF THE 4 47 IS RESERVED FOR THE MULTIFAMILY. 
          SO EACH UNIT WILL HAVE AT LEAST ONE PARKING SPACE. 
          UM, AND THEN SOME OBVIOUSLY WILL HAVE, HAVE THE RIGHT TO TWO. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          AND WILL THAT PARKING COST BE A PART OF THE RENT, OR WILL THAT BE OPTIONAL? YES, MA'AM. 
          THE, THE ONE SPACE PER UNIT IS PART OF RENT. 
          UM, AND THEN THE, UH, THE EXTRA SPACE WE'RE EXPLORING, I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE AN INCOME NUMBER TIED TO IT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S FUNNY, WE JUST APPROVED, UM, UH, AN ORDINANCE ON SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND BEING ABLE TO MAKE MONEY FROM SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE. 
          SO WHEN, IF SOMEONE HAS A PARKING SPACE THAT THEY'RE PAYING FOR IN THEIR RENT AND THEY CHOOSE NOT TO USE IT, THEY MAY BE ABLE TO, YOU PROBABLY WON'T ALLOW THAT IN THE LEASE, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          MAY BE ABLE TO, TO RENT THAT OUT IN, IN THE FUTURE. 
          BUT I THINK WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WE MAY WISH TO EXPLORE WHEN WE REVISE THE CCHI, UM, THE CCHI POLICY IS GIVING RESIDENTS THAT FLEXIBILITY OF, OF, YOU KNOW, NOT NECESSARILY PAYING FOR THAT PARKING SPACE MM-HMM. 
           AND SAVING THEMSELVES SOME MONEY IN RENT. 
          SO IN THIS DEVELOPMENT, GIVEN THAT IT'S AN URBAN DEAL AND IT'S, IT'S BASICALLY THE PARKING GARAGE IS IN INSIDE OF THE BUILDING ENVELOPE, UM, THERE'S SOME SECURITY ISSUES THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED THERE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , UM, AND, AND OBVIOUSLY SOME, SOME MANAGEMENT HEADACHES. 
          BUT THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CONSIDER GOING FORWARD. 
          UM, THANKS. 
          UM, I DO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. 
          UM, PERHAPS YOU CAN ANSWER IT. 
          CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE MIX OF THE AFFORDABLE UNITS WILL BE? AND I APOLOGIZE IF SOMEONE ALREADY ASKED THIS. 
          BETWEEN ONE BEDROOM, TWO BEDROOMS AND THREE BEDROOMS. SO, SURE. 
          IN THIS STRUCTURE WITHIN THE P F C, THE ENTIRETY OF THE, UM, AFFORDABLE UNITS ARE WITHIN THE ONE BEDROOM UNIT TYPE. 
          NOW THERE'S A MULTITUDE OF SIZES THERE. 
          I HAVE, UH, THEY START AT 539 SQUARE FEET AND GO UP TO 6 64. 
          UM, AND THEN THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, A SMALL RANGE OF PRICING DIFFERENCES THERE. 
          BUT, BUT THEY'RE IN, IN THE, UH, ENTIRETY OF THE AFFORDABLE UNITS ARE IN THE ONE BEDROOMS. SO WE LIKELY DON'T EXPECT TO SEE FAMILIES LIVING IN THE AFFORDABLE UNITS. 
          FAMILIES THAT HAVE CHILDREN, THEY WOULD ONLY BE ABLE TO LIVE IN THE MARKET RATE UNITS. 
          THEN THE, THE DEVELOPMENT AS A WHOLE IS NOT NECESSARILY STRUCTURED OR DESIGNED TO SERVE, UM, FULL-SIZE FAMILIES. 
          UH, OBVIOUSLY SINGLE PARENTS WOULD BE SERVED QUITE WELL, BUT, UM, THEY, UH, YOU'RE CORRECT, UM, IN THAT REGARD. 
          THERE'S OTHER PROGRAMS THAT THE P F C WORKS WITHIN, UH, NAMELY THE 4% BOND PROGRAM THAT IS, UM, MORE STRUCTURED. 
          UH, OBVIOUSLY WE RECEIVE SOME, SOME IN FEDERAL INCENTIVES, UH, THAT WAS TOUCHED ON EARLIER. 
          BUT, UH, IT, THOSE ARE DESIGNED TO SERVE FAMILIES AT A 60, 60% INCOME LEVEL. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE STRUCTURE ITSELF, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE SAYING IS REALLY DESIGNED MORE FOR NON-FAMILY? WELL, IT, IT'S, IT'S MORE SO YOUNG PROFESSIONALS. 
          I THINK IT'S, IT'S DOWNTOWN SERVICE WORKERS, TEACHERS, POLICE FIREMEN, THAT, THAT TYPICALLY, YOU KNOW, YOUR, YOUR, YOUR PUBLIC SERVANTS IF YOU WILL, THAT WOULD TYPICALLY BE SLIGHTLY OVER INCOME FOR A TRADITIONAL LITECH HOUSING. 
          AND THIS IS, THIS IS A CREATIVE LOCAL PARTNERSHIP THAT, UH, ALLOWS THE FLEXIBILITY FOR FOLKS AND, AND THOSE INCOME LEVELS THAT ARE TRADITIONALLY NOT SERVED BY NEW HOUSING, UH, ESPECIALLY IN THE LITECH 
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PROGRAMS, TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE IN AND REALLY A TRUE TOP OF THE MARKET QUALITY APARTMENT COMPLEX. 
          I MEAN, THIS WILL BE, GRANTED I'M BIASED, BUT I, I BELIEVE THIS WILL BE THE NICEST DEVELOPMENT IN SAN ANTONIO WHEN IT'S DELIVERED. 
          RIGHT. 
          IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU COULD HAVE SAVED YOURSELF 2.6 MILLION IF YOU DIDN'T MAKE IT SO NICE. 
          AND WE MAY HAVE FOUND THAT GAP . 
          WELL, THERE, THERE'S A BALANCE THERE. 
          IT'S STILL CONVENTIONALLY FINANCED. 
          AND SO YOU HAVE BANKS AND, AND EQUITY PARTNERS THAT ARE SIGNING OFF ON IT AND IN APPROVING THE MARKET RATE RENTS. 
          AND SINCE YOU'RE, WE'RE ACTUALLY A FINANCIAL PARTNER WITH THE P F C, UM, IT'S IN THE CITY'S BEST INTEREST, THE, UM, PROJECT'S BEST INTEREST AND THEN THE P C'S BEST INTEREST THAT THOSE MARKET RATE UNITS ALSO ARE ABLE TO ACHIEVE THE HIGHEST AMOUNT OF INCOME AND SO THAT THEY CAN CASHFLOW TO THE P F C. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THEY SURE THING. 
          I HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION FOR YOU. 
          COULD YOU TELL ME AGAIN ABOUT THE EXTENT OF THE, SO THERE IS, UH, THERE IS A CSA PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION ON THE, ON THE PURELY RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. 
          AND CAN YOU TELL ME HOW LONG THAT, THAT EXEMPTION WILL, WILL LAST? THAT'S TIED TO THE P F C UM, ARRANGEMENT, WHICH IS FOR 75 YEARS. 
          75 YEARS WITH THE SAME OWNER. 
          AND THE AFFORDABILITY HAS TO EXIST, HAS TO MAINTAIN, UM, SO THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY THE P F C, BUT I'M WONDERING THERE'S NO OPPORTUNITY TO GO BACK IN SAY, 10 YEARS WHEN MAYBE WE'RE NOT HERE , TO LOOK AT LOWERING THAT TO A 60% A M I. 
          EVEN THEN, AS, AS TIME GOES ON, YOU CAN LOOK AT BUYING DOWN THE RENTS IN THE FUTURE. 
          IF THERE ARE DIFFERENT MODELS WE COME UP WITH, YOU COULD LOOK AT THAT, UM, WITHIN, UM, OPENING A FEW YEARS AFTER. 
          IF WE FIND A, A GOOD MODEL THAT CAN HELP US BUY DOWN THE RENTS TO HAVE MORE UNITS AFFORDABLE AT 60% A M I, UH, YOU WOULD DO THAT BECAUSE THEY WOULD STILL MEET THE 80% OR BELOW A M I CRITERIA. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          YES, SIR. 
          COUNCIL ONE, CAN I CLARIFICATION ON, UH, THERE WAS A STATEMENT ABOUT THE COA PORTION OF THE TAXES BEING EXEMPT, BUT THE P F C IS TAX EXEMPT, SO ALL TAXES, INCLUDING THE COUNTY TAXES WOULD BE RIGHT AS WELL. 
          UM, YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          BUT, UH, IN TERMS OF THE PART THAT COMES TO OUR BUDGET, UM, HOW, WHAT'S THE ESTIMATE ON THAT IN SAY LIKE THE FIRST YEAR ONCE IT'S OPERATING? UH, THE AMOUNT, THE AMOUNT ITSELF, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE AMOUNT WOULD BE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          BUT, BUT SINCE THEY ARE A A 5 0 1 C THREE, THEY'RE TAX, THEY'RE THE EXEMPT. 
          MM-HMM. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          PROTO, UH, LET'S SEE. 
          COUNCILMAN ROCK HOUSE. 
          I BELIEVE YOU'RE UP . 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UH, SO REAL QUICK QUESTION FOR THE DEVELOPER AGAIN, I'M SORRY. 
          THE, UH, MY COLLEAGUE ASKED THE QUESTION, IT JUST PIQUED MY INTEREST AND I'M HAVEN'T, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROJECT THAT, THAT THAT'S NOT THE, JUST CURIOUS, SHE SAID SOMETHING AND THEN YOU MENTIONED THAT, I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR, 100% OF THESE ARE SINGLE BEDROOM, RIGHT? AND THIS DEVELOPMENT YES SIR. 
          YEAH. 
          OF THE AFFORDABLE UNITS. 
          100%. 
          THAT WAS WHAT I, THAT WAS HOW I RECEIVED YOUR QUESTION. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          I, UM, AND I KNOW THAT THE MAYOR'S HOUSING POLICY TASK FORCE A VERY IN DEPTH DEAL. 
          LOTS OF PAGES, LOTS OF INFORMATION, UH, JUST A TON OF STUFF AND THANK YOU. 
          I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT POINT. 
          I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UM, JUST GOING FORWARD, I KNOW THIS IS THE LAST OF THE OLD SEA CHIP, RIGHT? AND THEN WE'VE GOING INTO THE NEW SEA CHIP IN THE FUTURE. 
          AND I GET IT, YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF PLANS AND GREAT THINGS GOING, BUT I WILL SAY THAT IT CONCERNS ME THAT THERE ARE ONLY FOR, YOU KNOW, SINGLE PERSONS, RIGHT? OR HE MENTIONED MAYBE A SINGLE PARENT. 
          UH, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE GOING FORWARD ON THESE DISCUSSIONS, IF WE CAN REVISIT THAT AGAIN ON HOW THAT BREAKS OUT WITH FAMILIES. 
          'CAUSE THERE'S REALLY SHOULD, THERE'S A HIERARCHY TO WHERE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE INCENTIVES GO. 
          AND FRANKLY, THE FAMILY AND THAT AFFORDABILITY PIECE RISES HIGHER THAN, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M EXPRESSING THAT CORRECTLY. 
          I, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE MONEY GOES TO, IF WE'RE PUTTING THE CASH IN AND WE'RE INCENTIVIZING, IT'S A CONCERN THAT IT'S 100% TO ME, SINGLE FAMILY PERSON. 
          YOU KNOW, LIKE I, I JUST WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT DOING THAT AS MUCH IN THE FUTURE. 
          I DON'T WANNA LEAVE OUT, LIKE IF SOMEONE'S GONNA BUILD SOMETHING AND WE'RE GONNA CHUNK OF AND PUT INCENTIVES INTO IT, THEN GEEZ, IT'S GOT TO HAVE SOMETHING FOR THE FAMILIES TOO. 
          I MEAN, THE, THERE ARE TWO BEDROOM AND THREE BEDROOM UNITS IN THIS, AND THE FAMILIES ARE NOT GONNA HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO GET THAT SAME QUALITY, WHICH YOU SAID YOU QUOTED IT AS THE BEST DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY THAT A FAMILY CANNOT LIVE IN. 
          SO THAT IS A PROBLEM THAT AN AFFORDABLE CLASSIFIED FAMILY CANNOT LIVE IN. 
          SO THEY CANNOT HAVE ACCESS TO THE BEST DEVELOPED UNIT IN THE, IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          I MEAN, IT'S YOUR BUSINESS MODEL AND I'M OKAY WITH YOUR MODEL AND I'M OKAY WITH THE VOTE, BUT I JUST THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, EVEN 
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LOOK, WE'RE IN THE GAME AND, AND WE'RE GONNA BE INCENTIVIZING. 
          LET'S NOT LOSE SIGHT OF THAT. 
          AND, AND THAT'S MAINLY VETO AND, AND LORI, WHICH IS I SURE AS WANNA SEE AT LEAST IF WE'RE GONNA DO THIS, THESE THINGS THAT FAMILIES HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET INTO THE BEST OF TOO. 
          UM, AND WHILE I'M APPRECIATIVE OF THE YOUNG URBAN PROFESSIONAL GETTING THE INCENTIVE BECAUSE THEY MAKE SLIGHTLY ABOVE, I'M NOT SO SURE THAT'S THE TARGET AUDIENCE THAT I WOULD WANT TO INCENT INITIALLY. 
          SO TO THE COUNCIL, I THINK IT BECOMES A CONVERSATION OF WHO IS THAT TARGET AUDIENCE, AND IF WE'RE GONNA PUT 'EM IN THERE, LET'S BROADEN THE TARGET. 
          UM, AND THE FAMILIES NEED TO BE INVOLVED IN IT. 
          AND I THINK THE COUNCILMAN KIND OF UNEARTHED SOMETHING THAT I HAD NOT THOUGHT ABOUT BEFORE WHEN I HEARD HIM ANSWER A HUNDRED PERCENT. 
          THAT'S KIND OF STUNNING TO ME. 
          AND I WOULD GO, YOU KNOW, BE ON THE RECORD AS SAYING I THINK IT'S, UH, UNFAIR TO FAMILIES IN THE COMMUNITY THAT, THAT WE DON'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM. 
          UH, AND I HOPE THE NEXT ONES THAT COME THROUGH IT, THIS WILL BE GREAT. 
          NRP HASS DONE, FANTASTIC. 
          WE'RE GONNA COMMUNITY. 
          IT'S NOT ABOUT THAT AT ALL. 
          IT'S GONNA BE A FA IT'S GONNA BE A SOLID PROJECT, BUT THE NEXT ONES IN THE NEXT ROUND OF SEED CHIP, I HOPE WE DON'T EVER ENCOUNTER THAT AGAIN. 
          I THINK EVERYBODY, EVERY DIFFERENT TYPE OF FAMILY DESERVES AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET THE INCENTIVES IN IF THEY MEET IT NOW, GOING DOWN TO 60% FROM 80 IN THAT, I'M NOT GONNA DEBATE THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT I JUST WANNA OPEN UP THE GREATER OPPORTUNITY FOR THE FAMILY. 
          UM, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY, BUT THANK YOU FOR THE WORK AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE PROJECT AND DAN AND THE TEAM AND, AND HAVE, HAVE DONE A WONDERFUL PLANNING ON THIS. 
          SO WE'LL SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN, IN EFFECT. 
          BUT THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU COUNCILMAN. 
          UM, COUNCILMAN SALDANA. 
          THANK YOU COUNCILMAN. 
          JUST, UH, SOME CLARIFYING QUESTIONS. 
          IF I CAN LOOK AT SLIDE FIVE, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE, THE NUMBERS THAT I HAVE FROM A, FROM A REPORT THAT I RECEIVED, I'M IMAGINING FROM CITY STAFF IS, IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT I'M LOOKING AT HERE. 
          THE CITY FEE WAIVER IS AT 155,000 1 53. 
          I'M LOOKING MAYBE AT AN OLD PRESENTATION WHERE CITY WAIVER IS AT 102. 
          DO YOU HAVE THAT? IS IS, IS THERE SOME RECOLLECTION OF THIS? UH, UH, I, I DON'T KNOW IF MY STAFF PUT THIS TOGETHER OR NOT, BUT IS THAT NUMBER RIGHT THAT I'M SEEING ON THE SCREEN 155? THAT'S CORRECT, YES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND CAN I ASK, UM, MAYBE, LORI, THIS IS A QUESTION FOR YOU. 
          WE HAVE AN INNER CITY INVESTMENT FUND. 
          IS THAT WHAT WE'RE TAPPING INTO WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT OTHER OPTIONS THAT'S SET AT WHAT, 2 MILLION? YES. 
          WHAT, WHAT ON THE SCREEN TAPS INTO THE 2 MILLION. 
          SO THE $368,000 IS COMING OUTTA THE INNER CITY INCENTIVE FUND TO HELP FUND THAT RETAIL COMPONENT. 
          'CAUSE AS A PART OF THE CIP POLICY THAT WAS RECENTLY PLACED IN A MORATORIUM, THERE WAS A GRANT PROVIDED TO PROJECTS THAT HAD RETAIL AT THE FIRST FLOOR LEVEL. 
          OKAY. 
          AND JUST TO SORT OF THINK ABOUT THIS, THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, UH, LET'S, LET ME SAY THIS. 
          I'M GLAD WE'RE GETTING SOME CONCESSION. 
          I'M GLAD THAT THE P F C IS IN HERE. 
          UH, IF YOU CONSIDER THIS PROPERTY SURROUNDED BY THE SAN ANTONIO MUSEUM OF ART, THE RIVER NORTH EXTENSION, A $40 MILLION INJECTION OF PUBLIC DOLLARS ON BROADWAY, MAVERICK PARK, A COFFEE SHOP. 
          I MEAN, THIS SAYS EVERYTHING YOU COULD POSSIBLY WANT FROM A DEVELOPABLE SITE. 
          AND, AND I THINK TO, TO THE QUESTION OF THIS IS EVERY SITE IS UNIQUE. 
          YEAH. 
          THIS IS EVERY BELLS AND WHISTLE YOU WOULD WANT. 
          THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT PRETTY UNIQUE. 
          AND, UM, I'M THINKING TO MYSELF AT THE VERY LEAST, IF WE, IF WE SAY GOODBYE TO THIS PROJECT, IF WE SAY WE DON'T WANT ANY PART OF IT, UH, THIS MIGHT ACTUALLY BECOME A PROJECT THAT'S 100% MARKET RATE AT, AT HIGHER RATE THAN, THAN WE'RE LOOKING AT. 
          SO THAT'S A GOOD THING. 
          LET ME JUST SUBMIT TO THAT. 
          UM, BUT I, I ALSO THINK THAT, THAT YOU ALSO CREATE A, A BAR THAT SAYS YOU MUST BE THIS TALL TO, TO RIDE THIS RIDE ON, ON A PROJECT WITH ALL OF THESE AMENITIES THAT HAVE ACCESS TO, IN MY MIND, UH, I'M LOOKING AT A FUTURE WHERE WE OFFER THESE KINDS OF AMENITIES CLOSE TO PEOPLE WHO, WHO MAY NOT MAKE AS MUCH MONEY AND MAY BE AT 60% A M I. 
          THAT'S WHAT I HOPE, UH, WE CAN, UH, WE, WE CAN DRIVE TO WITH THE UNIQUENESS OF PROJECTS THAT, THAT, THAT MAY EXIST. 
          UM, SO I'M GRATEFUL WE'RE AT LEAST GETTING, GETTING THIS PROJECT. 
          SO THIS WILL TAP INTO 2 MILLION, THE 368,000 THAT CREATES A FUND. 
          BUT I IMAGINE THAT THERE'S NOT JUST, SO IS THAT, IS THAT AN ALLOCATION EVERY YEAR OF $2 MILLION? THE CITY IS SET ASIDE IN THE GENERAL FUND, 2 MILLION EVERY YEAR BECAUSE WE PUT A MORATORIUM. 
          HAS THAT FLUCTUATED, HAS THAT CREATE MORE OF AN EXPENSE OVER A CARRYOVER FROM THIS FISCAL YEAR'S PASSING AND LAST FISCAL YEAR'S AUDITORIUM? NO, BECAUSE THERE'S STILL SOME PROJECTS THAT WE ARE TAKING TO COUNCIL THAT ARE USING THAT FUND. 
          SO I'LL USE THE BASC FOX PROJECT AS AN EXAMPLE. 
          AND SO THE INNER CITY INCENTIVE FUND FEEDS SEVERAL PROJECTS. 
          LIKE WE HELP SUPPORT THE U S A PARKING GARAGE THAT WE APPROVED RECENTLY LAST YEAR. 
          UM, WE HELPED SUPPORT HISTORIC PRESERVATION THAT FUND. 
          SO THE INNER CITY INCENTIVE FUND ISN'T JUST LIMITED TO THE CCHI POLICY. 
          GOTCHA. 
          AND, AND THE SSS FEE WAIVER HERE THAT WE'RE TAPPING INTO, WHAT'S THEIR ORIGINAL PRINCIPLE ON THAT EVERY YEAR THAT THEY HAVE TO WORK WITH, WE RECEIVE ABOUT 3 MILLION ANNUALLY FROM THE SSS V WAIVER PROGRAM. 
          SO, UH, FINAL THOUGHT, I THINK THAT WITH THE C CITY FEE WAIVERS WITH SAUCE FEE WAIVERS 
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WITH TURS, UM, IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO SORT OF THE, THE JERRY MCGUIRE ANALOGY. 
          IT'S SHOW ME THE MONEY. 
          LIKE IF YOU WANT AFFORDABILITY, IF YOU WANT 60% A M I, SHOW ME THE MONEY AND, AND I JUST WANT TO AT LEAST MEET REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THAT NUMBER IS HIGH OR ASTRONOMICAL, AT LEAST I WANNA SEE WHAT OPTION EXISTS. 
          WE CAN SAY NO TO IT, WE CAN'T AFFORD IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE, UM, ASKED SOME OF THESE, UH, DEVELOPERS TO SHOW US, UH, MAYBE IT'S 1.8 MILLION, AND THEN WE COME BACK AND SAY, LOOK, WE'VE SHOWED YOU WHAT WE WANT. 
          YOU'VE TOLD US WHAT IT COSTS. 
          NOW WE'RE GONNA SHOW YOU THE MONEY TO MAKE SURE TO MAKE, MAKE IT HAPPEN. 
          SO I, I'M GRATEFUL THAT WE'RE AT LEAST GETTING SOME PROJECTS HERE THAT, UH, INCLUDE SOME AFFORDABILITY, UM, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER I AGREE THAT THE DEFINITION IS RIGHT OR NOT. 
          THAT WAS MY LAST THOUGHT. 
          THANK YOU, COUNCIL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND COUNCILMAN COUNCILWOMAN VIA GRANT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, I WANNA FIRST THANK ALL MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES FOR THEIR, UH, COMMENTS AND THEIR, UM, THOUGHTFULNESS IN THIS PROJECT. 
          I THINK WHAT VERO AND WHAT JOHN KENNY ARE HEARING ARE SOME OF THE, UM, AREAS AND THE DIRECTIONS THAT WE ARE GO, WE ARE WANTING TO GO AS A COUNCIL. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO HELP US AS WE MOVE FORWARD. 
          I, I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THIS CONVERSATION BECAUSE, UM, WE HAD THE RESOLUTION AND WE HAVE THE FRAMEWORK FOR THE MAYOR'S HOUSING POLICY TASK FORCE, BUT WE REALLY AS A COUNCIL HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO START THOSE POLICY CONVERSATIONS OR DO ANY VETTING YET. 
          SO WE ARE DOING THAT TO KIND OF UP HERE ON THE DAIS RIGHT NOW. 
          BUT, UM, I KNOW THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING THAT FOCUS AS WE MOVE FORWARD. 
          ONE OF THE SPECIAL THINGS ABOUT THIS PROJECT FOR US ON THE P F C WAS THIS IS THE FIRST TRULY CENTER CITY DOWNTOWN PROJECT THAT WE HAD BEEN ABLE TO DO. 
          UM, BECAUSE THE OTHER ONES JUST HADN'T HAD ALL BEEN JUST ON THE PERIMETER, THE OUTSIDE OF THE DOWNTOWN CORE. 
          UM, AND IT WAS DISCUSSED TO, TO GO FURTHER DOWN TO REACH MORE, UH, MORE AFFORDABILITY IN THE AREA. 
          UM, SO I, I DO THINK THAT THIS IS, AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THE CITY THROUGH THE P F C IS GOING TO HAVE SKIN IN THE GAME IN THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY FOR A VERY LONG PERIOD OF TIME. 
          AND I THINK THAT IS WHAT IS IMPORTANT FOR US AS WE MOVE FORWARD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          I'D LIKE TO, UH, GO AHEAD AND ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS MYSELF AT THIS TIME. 
          I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE. 
          UH, AND I SUPPOSE VERO, I'LL, I'LL GO AHEAD AND ASK YOU IF YOU CAN HELP WITH THESE AND POSSIBLY LORI MIGHT HAVE TO HELP OUT AS WELL ON, ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. 
          I SEE THE INCENTIVES THAT ARE HERE. 
          AND ALSO, OF COURSE, A MAJOR INCENTIVE OR ADVANTAGE IS THE FACT THAT IT'LL BE NON-TAXABLE. 
          SO NO PROPERTY TAXES WILL BE PAID. 
          UH, ARE THERE ANY OTHER POTENTIAL INCENTIVES THAT MAY BE AVAILABLE TO THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT RIGHT NOW? I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY ADDITIONAL ONES. 
          NOTHING ELSE MIGHT BE COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, OBVIOUSLY THE BROADWAY DEVELOPMENT IS CERTAINLY GONNA ENHANCE THE VALUE OF THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT. 
          UH, I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THE INTEREST OF H T C OR THE P F C? WHAT IS THE INTEREST THEY HOLD, UH, IN THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT? SO THEY HAVE A 15%, UH, EQUITY OWNERSHIP IN 1 5 15 1 5. 
          YES SIR. 
          15% EQUITY. 
          UM, THEY ARE AT THE END OF THE 75 YEAR TERM, THEY OWN THE LAND AS WELL. 
          UM, AND SO AT THE END OF THE 75 YEAR TERM, THE P F C WOULD BE THE OWNERS OF THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT AS WELL. 
          UH, AND SO THE, THE HOUSING THERE COULD BE AFFORDABLE INDEFINITELY IF THE P F C UM, CONTINUES TO OWN IT AND CONTINUES TO HAVE THOSE AFFORDABLE RENTS BE PART OF THE EQUATION. 
          DO THEY RECEIVE SOMETHING, UH, OUT OF THE MONTHLY RENTS BACK TO THE FUND? THEY RECEIVE THAT, THAT 50% EQUITY BACK. 
          UM, AND, AND I KNOW MAYBE TRAVIS CAN ANSWER SOME OF THE MORE DETAILED QUESTIONS, BUT I, I DO KNOW, UM, THAT THEY DO RECEIVE THAT INCOME AS WELL. 
          UM, THERE IS ALSO AN ANNUAL, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE FEE AS WELL. 
          UM, THAT'S FIXED. 
          UM, IT'S $20,000 AND THAT'S BECAUSE THERE ARE COMPLIANCE MATTERS AS WELL, UM, THAT THE STAFF AT THE TRUST MAKES SURE IS TAKEN CARE OF FOR THE UNITS AS WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          CAN THE P F C SELL ITS INTEREST AT ANY TIME IN BEFORE THE END OF 75 YEARS? YEAH, YOU ANSWER THAT. 
          SO THE, WITHOUT GOING INTO A HISTORY LESSON OF, OF, OF ALL OF THESE IN THE PAST, UM, THE P F C IN THIS PROJECT DOES HAVE THE RIGHT TO EFFECTIVELY CAPITALIZE THEIR INTEREST. 
          UM, AND SO IF, IF THE P F C 
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OR THE CITY WERE MOTIVATED TO HAVE A BULK SUM IN THREE YEARS FROM NOW AS AN EXAMPLE, THEN THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO THAT. 
          IF NOT, THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO TO STAY IN. 
          EVEN IF THERE'S OTHER CAPITAL EVENTS, OTHER OWNERS, THE P F C CAN STAY IN THERE AND THAT 15% SLOT. 
          SO DOES THE MAJORITY PROPERTY OWNER HAVE THE RIGHT TO SELL THEIR INTEREST AT ANY TIME? YE YES SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          ALMOST ANY TIME. 
          IF THE P F C WERE TO SELL ITS INTEREST, WOULD THEN THE PROPERTY BECOME ALL PRIVATE AND WOULD IT LOSE ITS TAX VALUE? IT'S SENT ITS TAX BREAK. 
          SO THE P F C ACTUALLY HAS TWO INTERESTS. 
          THIS IS A, A TADD CONFUSING, BUT THE P F C OWNS THE LAND. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THE IMPROVEMENTS RIGHT. 
          FEE SIMPLE. 
          ABSOLUTE MEANING THEY OWN IT FOREVER. 
          WELL, 15% OF IT, NO, SIR. 
          THEY OWN EVERYTHING FOREVER. 
          THEY LEASE IT BACK TO THE PROJECT FOR 75 YEARS WITHIN THAT PROJECT ENTITY. 
          THE P F C HAS A 15% OWNERSHIP. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, SO THE P F C LITERALLY COULD SELL THE WHOLE THING, LOCK, STOCK, AND BARREL. 
          THE P F C COULD SELL THEIR 15% INTEREST AND THEY WOULD ALWAYS STAY IN THERE AS THE FEE SIMPLE OWNER FOR THE LENGTH OF THE LEASE. 
          THEY CANNOT BACK OUT OF THE LEASE EARLY. 
          OKAY. 
          IF THE PROJECT LOST ITS AFFORDABILITY COMPONENT, FOR EXAMPLE, IF IT'S VERY MUCH THEORETICAL, IF 10 YEARS FROM NOW THERE'S A DIFFERENT OWNER, OWNER, UM, AND THEY MAKE A MISTAKE AND START ALLOWING OVER INCOME RESIDENTS IN THERE, THEN THAT PROPERTY WOULD THEN BE SUBJECT TO FULL PROPERTY TAXES AND THE P F C WOULD STILL OWN IT, AND THE P F C WOULD STILL HAVE THE RIGHT TO THAT 15%. 
          NOW YOU SAY BY MISTAKE, I MEAN, HOW CAN YOU MAKE A MISTAKE? I MEAN, THERE'S A, IT'S ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE THAT THAT WOULD BE ADVANTAGEOUS, BUT IT'S, I'M I'M SAYING AS AN EXAMPLE, EVEN IF THEY MISTAKENLY, IF THEY HAD A BAD COMPLIANCE DEPARTMENT, WHICH WE DO NOT, AND THEY STARTED, UH, ALLOWING OVER INCOME RESIDENTS IN THERE, THEN THE PUNISHMENT EFFECTIVELY IS, IS THAT THEY LOST THEIR TAX EXEMPTION. 
          THE STATE REQUIRES THE ENTITY TO HAVE 50% OF THE UNITS RESERVE FOR THOSE THAT COULD BE VERY BAD FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING THERE BECAUSE ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY LOSE THEIR INCENTIVE, DON'T THEY? THE FOLKS LIVING THERE HAVE SIGNED THE LEASE. 
          I'M NOT SURE IF I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          IT JUST SOUNDS A LITTLE QUESTIONABLE TO ME. 
          UM, WHAT ELSE IS IN THE PIPELINE, UH, FROM, UH, THE HOUSING TRUST OF THE P F C? THE REASON WHY I BRING THAT UP IS BECAUSE WE'VE JUST HEARD THAT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT HAS BEEN UNDERWAY FOR ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF. 
          AND SO IT'S FINALLY GOTTEN TO US, AND I, I'M UNDERSTANDING BY WHAT LORI SAID IS BECAUSE IT'S BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR A YEAR AND A HALF, THEN IT'S LOCKED INTO ALL OF OUR PREVIOUS INCENTIVES. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , I'M WONDERING HOW MANY OTHER PROJECTS ARE IN THAT SAME PIPELINE, UH, THROUGH P F C, THROUGH THE H T C THAT WE MIGHT ALREADY BE ALSO OBLIGATED TO MAKE SURE THE INCENTIVES WE MAY BE WANTING TO END AREN'T OBLIGATED FOR THESE FUTURE PROJECTS. 
          OKAY. 
          AND AND COUNCIL MEMBER, MY COMMENT WAS REGARDING THE SEA CHIP PROJECTS. 
          SO WE HAD TWO SEA CHIP PROJECTS WERE IN, THAT WERE IN THE PIPELINE WHEN WE PLACED THE MORATORIUM ON THE CCHI. 
          SO THIS WAS ONE OF THE TWO, AND THE OTHER ONE WAS THE HEMISPHERE PROJECT, UM, THAT WAS ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF MARKET AND ALAMO. 
          SO THERE WERE ONLY TWO PROJECTS IN THE PIPELINE. 
          AND FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THERE ARE THREE TO FIVE PROJECTS IN THE P F C PIPELINE CURRENTLY THAT WILL BE REVIEWED BY THE P F C. 
          DO ANY OF THOSE HAVE ANY GRANDFATHERED BY RIGHTS? UH, RIGHT TO CLAIM THEY SHOULD HAVE CERTAIN, UH, INCENTIVES FROM US. 
          NONE OF THE SEA CHIP PROJECTS JUST, THIS WAS THE ONLY SEA CHIP PROJECT THAT WAS A SAN ANTONIO HOUSING TRUST P F C PROJECT. 
          LOOKS LIKE PETER HAS ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD? I WAS JUST SHOWING LORI THE LIST. 
          WE DO HAVE THE LIST OF PROJECTS THAT ARE, THAT ARE IN THE PIPELINE. 
          SO IT'S, UM, IT'S, IT'S ABOUT THAT NUMBER, ABOUT FIVE OR SO PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE PIPELINE. 
          AND SO THEY MAY BE ASKING FOR INCENTIVES UNDER THE OLD SYSTEM IF WE MAKE A CHANGE NOW OR IN THE FUTURE UNDER THE CCHI INCENTIVES. 
          YEAH, THEY THEY MAY BE YES. 
          NO, NO, NO, NO. 
          YEAH, THEY COULD, THE, THE LIST OF PROJECTS THAT PETER HAS, THERE'S ABOUT FIVE. 
          NONE OF THEM ARE RECEIVING C CHIP INCENTIVES THROUGH THE OLD PROGRAM. 
          THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH A NEW PROGRAM THAT COUNCIL HAS YET TO APPROVE. 
          AND THAT WOULD HOPE, WE HOPE TO BRING SOMETHING TO COUNCIL BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR. 
          AND, AND THE SAME. 
          AND SO AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, THE SAME WITH ANYTHING THAT MIGHT BE COMING FROM THE, UH, TRUST NO, NO. 
          THE TRUST DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING WORKING MAYOR, OR IF I COULD, JOHN KENNY, THE DIRECTOR OF THE HOUSING TRUST IS HERE IN THE AUDIENCE AND PERHAPS HE CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION ON ANY PENDING P F C PROJECT REQUESTS. 
          I THINK THAT WAS YOUR QUESTION. 
          HOW MANY PENDING P F C? YEAH. 
          MY, MY CONCERN IS ARE, ARE WE GONNA FIND OUT THAT THERE'S A BUNCH OF OTHER THINGS THAT ARE SO-CALLED GRANDFATHERED? I THINK IT'D BE GOOD TO KIND OF KNOW THAT COMING DOWN THE PIPE RIGHT NOW AS WE DECIDE, ARE WE GONNA MAKE ANY 
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CHANGES IN THE FUTURE? UH, PERSONALLY I HAVE A HARD TIME SAYING THAT SOMETHING THAT WAS STARTED A YEAR AGO OR TWO YEARS AGO SHOULD BE GIVEN THE COURTESY OF CHANGES THAT WE WANT TO CREATE TODAY. 
          BUT, UH, I'M, I'M LOOKING TO HEAR WHAT THEY MIGHT BE. 
          HI, I'M JOHN KENNY. 
          UM, OH, BY THE WAY, UM, I, I GOT INTO A FIGHT WITH THE ORIENTAL RUG LAST NIGHT, SO I'VE GOT A, A CRAZY LITTLE THING ON THE, MY, MY HEAD IF IT DISTRACTS YOU. 
          SO IF THERE ARE ANY, THE FIVE UNITS THAT WE HAVE, NONE OF THEM HAVE CCHI OR WILL IT BE ASKING FOR C CHIP OR OTHER INCENTIVES AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW? UM, I DOUBT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          I THINK THAT, UM, THAT ENDS MY QUESTIONS, ALTHOUGH I WILL LEAVE WITH A COMMENT. 
          YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'VE HEARD CONCERN FROM SEVERAL COUNCIL PEOPLE ABOUT THE FACT THAT AFFORDABILITY IS VERY QUESTIONABLE WHEN WE HEAR THAT IT'S ONLY AFFORDABLE FOR AN INDIVIDUAL OR MAYBE A MARRIED COUPLE WHO IS AT THE VERY TOP OF WHAT WE CONSIDER AFFORDABLE INCOME. 
          IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE ANY OF YOUR PROJECTIONS ARE GOING TO ALLOW SOMEBODY WITH 75% AFFORDABLE INCOME AFFORD TO LIVE THERE, OR 65%. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE LOOKING TO ONLY HELP THE PEOPLE AT THE TOP OF THAT INCOME LEVEL. 
          UH, AND ONE OTHER THING ON YOUR, ON YOUR MATH ON, AND MAYBE SOMEONE CAN HELP ME WITH THE PROJECT, IT SAYS, UH, THE ONE BEDROOM P F C RATE GOES UP TO A 664 SQUARE UNIT, UM, APARTMENT, AND THEN YOU HAVE ONE BEDROOM MARKET RATES THAT START AT 664 SQUARE FEET. 
          IS THERE ANY DIFFERENCE IN THE QUALITY OF THOSE TWO PARTICULAR TYPES OF UNITS? NO, SIR. 
          THERE'S JUST SOME OVERLAP. 
          SURE. 
          UM, EFFECTIVELY THE THOUGHT THERE, SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          THE THOUGHT THERE IS, UM, WE HAVE, UM, WE ARE STILL OPERATING AS A, AN APARTMENT COMPLEX. 
          WE HAVE FOLKS COMING IN THAT ARE SLIGHTLY OVER INCOME AND THEY NEED WHAT WOULD BE CALLED AN ENTRY LEVEL UNIT IN THIS MARKET. 
          AND SO, I MEAN, THERE, THE ENTRY LEVELS AND UNITS IN THIS MARKET ARE, YOU KNOW, 300 TO $600 MORE EXPENSIVE THAN OUR ENTRY LEVEL FOR THE P F C. 
          AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY JUST TRYING TO INVITE TRAFFIC. 
          UH, THERE'S, YOU'LL NOTICE THERE'S NOT MANY UNITS, UH, OF THAT SIZE THAT ARE SET ASIDE AS MARKET RATE. 
          IT OFFERS US SOME FLEXIBILITY DURING LEASE UP. 
          YEAH, I WASN'T SURE HOW MANY THERE WERE, BUT I JUST NOTED THAT I PRESUME THE 664 SQUARE FOOT UNIT IS THE ONE THAT'S GONNA COST $1,340 A MONTH, UH, AS A MARKET RATE. 
          Y YES SIR. 
          THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S EXPECTED AS, AS IF IT WAS IN THE GROUND TODAY. 
          AND I WOULD, I WOULD EXPECT THAT THE ONE BEDROOM UNIT AT 664 SQUARE FEET WOULD BE AT THE $1,210 UH, RATE THAT YOU HAD LISTED THERE. 
          THAT SEEMED TO BE RIGHT. 
          YES, SIR. 
          YES, SIR. 
          IT LOOKS LIKE 1185 TO 1210, THERE'S SOME SMALLER UNITS THAT GO DOWN TO 10 65. 
          SO THERE ARE, OKAY, SO THERE ARE SOME 1185 UNITS THAT ARE 664 SQUARE FEET TOO. 
          632. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THE REASON WHY I BRING IT UP 'CAUSE A 664 SQUARE FOOT UNIT AT $1,340, IF YOU'RE GONNA TAKE 80% OF THAT, IT'S MORE LIKE $1,182 FOR THE SAME SIZE UNIT. 
          SO IT'S REALLY NOT 20% OR 80%. 
          WELL, IT'S MORE LIKE 19% OR 81%. 
          SO WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY PRICING THOSE TO, TO MEET AN INCOME LEVEL. 
          IT'S MORE SO TO MEET AN INTEREST OF TRAFFIC. 
          AND, AND SO THAT, THAT'S ANOTHER POINT. 
          AND A BENEFIT OF THE P F C IS, YES, THERE'S 142 UNITS THAT ARE AFFORDABLE FOR FOLKS MAKING LESS THAN 80% OF A M I THOSE ARE RESERVED FOR THOSE FOLKS MAKING LESS THAN EIGHT 80% OF A MAMI. 
          SO YES, THERE'S, THERE'S, UM, YOU KNOW, IF IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO, TO LIVE IN THE SMALLEST UNIT, MAYBE AT A, A SMALLER COMPLEX SOMEWHERE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO FIND A UNIT, UH, THAT THEY CAN AFFORD BY THE DEFINITION, BUT IT'S NOT RESERVED FOR THEM. 
          IT COULD BE SOMEBODY MAKING A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT, THAT IT JUST HAS A GOOD DEAL ON AN APARTMENT AT OUR, AT OUR COMMUNITY AND ALL THE P F C COMMUNITIES, THOSE ARE INCOME, THOSE ARE INCOME RESTRICTED AND REGULATED. 
          SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY RESERVED THAT INCOME LEVEL. 
          IT'S NOT JUST ARTIFICIALLY LOWERING PRICES. 
          WELL, I THINK THAT, UH, THE COUNCIL HAS HEARD ME, AND I THINK YOU'VE HEARD SOME OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE DON'T BELIEVE 80% OF THE COUNTYWIDE A M I REFLECTS 80% OF THE EARNING POTENTIAL OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE CITY WHERE YOU ARE BUILDING THIS PROJECT. 
          UH, AND SO I I HAVE REAL DIFFICULTY 
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APPROVING SOMETHING LIKE THIS. 
          I DON'T BELIEVE IT SERVES THE COMMUNITY EFFECTIVELY. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THE INCENTIVES THAT WERE GIVEN, UH, ARE WORTH THE RETURN TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          ANYWAY, UH, THAT'S THE END OF MY COMMENTS AND I THINK IT'S TIME TO GO AHEAD AND CALL FOR A VOTE ON THE ISSUE. 
          YES. 
          AND, UH, MAYOR, UH, I JUST NEEDED TO ANNOUNCE THAT MAYOR NURENBERG IS RECUSING HIMSELF ON THIS ITEM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU ALL TO VOTE? MIKE? MIKE, YOUR MIC IS, YEAH, THAT'S, YES, PLEASE VOTE. 
          THE MOTION CARRIES. 
          MAYOR, I JUST, OH, YES, MANAGER. 
          ARE WE FINISHED? WE DIDN'T SHOW THE VOTE YET. 
          OKAY. 
          WE ARE FINISHED WITH THE VOTE. 
          THE VOTE CARRIED. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          JUST A QUICK, UH, CITY MANAGER'S REPORT BEFORE WE MOVE INTO ZONING. 
          UM, AND WE HAVE AN EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION, SO I'LL BE QUICK ABOUT THIS. 
          FIRST I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE RECENT CIV TECH SMART CITIES INITIATIVES, UH, THAT WE ARE UNDERTAKING AND WE'RE REPORTING THAT TO THE TECHNOLOGY COMMITTEE. 
          BUT I WANTED TO TELL YOU ABOUT THE DATA, HON, THAT WE HOSTED. 
          UH, JUST RECENTLY, THE CITY GEEKED THEM IN OUR SMART SA PARTNERS VIA SAW C P S AND SARAH HOSTED A DATA HON EVENT, WHICH, UH, PARTICIPANTS, UH, FROM OUR PARTNER AGENCIES LOOKED AT NEW WAYS OF THINKING AND TO EXPLORE COMPELLING IDEAS. 
          SO EACH SMART SA PARTNER RELEASED DATA SETS ACROSS THREE CHALLENGE AREAS, TRANSPORTATION, SUSTAINABILITY, AND ACCESS TO CITY SERVICES AND PARTICIPANTS USE THIS DATA TO LOOK FOR NEW INSIGHTS, EXPLORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR INNOVATION, AND DEVELOP DASHBOARDS AND VISUALIZATION TOOLS. 
          SEVEN OF THE 32 TEAMS THAT APPLIED WERE SELECTED TO COMPETE IN THE EVENT TWO WEEKS AGO. 
          AND THE WINNING TEAM, A PROTOTYPE THAT WOULD USE DATA FROM THE CITY C P S AND SAWS TO BUILD A DASHBOARD THAT WOULD PREDICT GEOGRAPHIC AREAS WHERE SENIORS THAT MIGHT BE AT RISK, UH, OF HEALTH ISSUES DURING A SIGNIFICANT WEATHER EVENT, WHETHER IT'S HEAT COLD FLOODING, OR UTILITY OUTAGE. 
          AND THIS WOULD ALLOW PROACTIVE NOTIFICATIONS TO FAMILY MEMBERS OR FRIENDS TO CHECK ON THOSE HIGH RISK INDIVIDUALS. 
          UH, THE WINNING TEAM WILL HAVE SIX MONTHS TO BUILD AND COMPLETE THEIR PROTOTYPE. 
          AND THIS PROJECT IS A FIRST STEP TO BEGIN THE DESIGN ON INCORPORATING THIS DATA FROM OUR SMART SA PARTNERS TO HAVE A ONE-STOP, UH, DIGITAL RESOURCES FOR THE RESIDENTS OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          UH, NEXT I WANNA SAY THAT OUR DIGITAL KIOSK PILOT PROGRAM IS OFF TO A GREAT START. 
          THE PROGRAM IS INSTALLING 30 KIOSKS AT NO COST TO THE CITY THROUGHOUT SAN ANTONIO, INCLUDING SOME OF OUR CITY PARKS, THE SAN ANTONIO INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, THE CONVENTION CENTER, ALAMO DOME, AND DOWNTOWN. 
          IN ADDITION, THE CITY HAS FORMED PARTNERSHIPS WITH VIA TO PLACE SEVEN KIOSKS AT HIGH TRAFFIC VIA LOCATIONS AND THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE TO PLACE TWO AT WORLD HERITAGE LOCATIONS. 
          THE KIOSKS ARE AN EXCELLENT WAY FOR THE CITY TO COMMUNICATE WITH BOTH RESIDENTS AND VISITORS TO PROVIDE THE LATEST INFORMATION ON WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE SAN ANTONIO AREA WAY FINDING VIA BUS ROUTES, B CYCLE, LOCAL EVENTS AND LOCAL BUSINESS. 
          THEY'LL ALSO BE ABLE TO PROMOTE CITY PROGRAMS LIKE THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO'S LIBRARY DIGITAL COLLECTION, THE CITY EVENTS AND CURRENT JOBS THAT ARE AVAILABLE WITHIN THE CITY. 
          KIOSKS ARE ACCESSIBLE TO PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES AND PROVIDE CONTENT IN ENGLISH AND IN SPANISH. 
          IN THE MONTHS, IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER, WE'LL INSTALL THE REMAINDER IN THE DOWNTOWN CITY PARKS AND VIA LOCATIONS. 
          UM, AND JUST WANTED TO SAY TOO, THAT AS PART OF THE TRI CENTENNIAL'S FINAL SERVE 300 INITIATIVE ON OCTOBER 13TH, WE INCLUDED A FOOD DRIVE BENEFITING THE SAN ANTONIO FOOD BANK. 
          AND THE FOOD BANK, OF COURSE, SERVES MORE THAN 230,000 INDIVIDUALS ANNUALLY, INCLUDING, UH, CHILDREN AND SENIORS DISTRIBUTES FOOD TO 530 NONPROFITS, UH, ACROSS THE COUNTY. 
          UH, IN RECENT MONTHS AFTER ASSISTING INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES THIS PAST SUMMER IN RECOVERING FROM LAST YEAR'S CATASTROPHIC HURRICANES OF FOOD BANK WAS EXPERIENCING DEFICIENCIES AND THE AMOUNT OF FOOD ON THEIR, IN THEIR SUPPLIES. 
          AND THE FINAL TRICENTENNIAL SERVE 300 INITIATIVE FOCUSED ON, UH, CITYWIDE SUSTAINABILITY PROJECTS. 
          AND WE CALLED ON CITY EMPLOYEES TO RESTOCK 
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THE SHELVES AT THE SAN ANTONIO FOOD BANK. 
          UH, THE FOOD DRIVE GOAL WAS TO COLLECT 1700 POUNDS OF FOOD ITEMS AND COMMEMORATION OF OUR TRICENTENNIAL YEAR. 
          AND I'M PROUD TO SHARE WITH YOU TODAY THAT THE TOTAL FOOD WEIGHT COLLECTED WAS MORE THAN 5,000 POUNDS. 
          SO WE MORE THAN DOUBLED, UH, ALMOST TRIPLED THE AMOUNT OF FOOD COLLECTED IN THE DEPARTMENT. 
          COLLECTING THE MOST FOOD WEIGHT WAS THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. 
          SO I JUST WANT TO CONGRATULATE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THANK ALL THE CITY EMPLOYEES THAT DID, UH, DONATE. 
          THEN LASTLY, UM, OUR PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT HOSTS A VARIETY OF SUMMER OPPORTUNITIES FOR FAMILIES TO BE ACTIVE AND OF COURSE ENJOY THE OUTDOORS. 
          AND THE DEPARTMENT OPERATES 23 OUTDOOR SWIMMING POOLS DURING THE SUMMER, AS WELL AS THE INDOOR NATATORIUM OPEN YEAR ROUND. 
          AND WE PROVIDE LAP SWIM AND OPEN SWIM OPPORTUNITIES IN ADDITION TO FREE AQUAFIT CLASSES. 
          LIKE AQUA ZUMBA, WATER AEROBICS. 
          AND THIS PAST SUMMER PARKS AND RECREATION OFFERED OVER 2,700 FREE GROUP SWIMMING LESSONS AT OUR OUT OUTDOOR POOLS IN 2018. 
          THE DEPARTMENT WAS RECOGNIZED BY THE RED CROSS THIS YEAR FOR THEIR COMMITMENT TO WATER SAFETY LIFEGUARD TRAINING AND DROWNING PREVENTION BY CERTIFYING MORE THAN 100 LIFEGUARDS. 
          UH, MY FIRST JOB AT AGE 15 WAS AS A LIFEGUARD AND SWIM INSTRUCTOR AT A COUNTY POOL. 
          SO I UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING PUBLIC POOLS AND SWIMMING AVAILABLE, UH, TO THE PUBLIC. 
          IT TAKES A LARGE NUMBER OF STAFF TO SUCCESSFULLY OPERATE A SUMMER SEASON. 
          AND TODAY I WANTED TO RECOGNIZE ONE OF THOSE STAFF MEMBERS, ELAINE VALDEZ, WHO'S HERE IN THE AUDIENCE, PA PATIENTLY WAITING HERE, UH, FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS. 
          A PARKS AND RECREATION SEASONAL EMPLOYEE WHO RECENTLY RECEIVED THE CARRIE O'BRIEN COACHING AWARD FROM THE US MASTER'S SWIMMING, THE US MASTER SWIMMING AS A NATIONAL ORGANIZATION, FOUNDED IN THE 1970S WITH A GOAL OF ENCOURAGING ADULTS TO IMPROVE FITNESS THROUGH SWIMMING. 
          IN 2008, THE US MASTER SWIMMING COACHES COMMITTEE INITIATED THE KA O'BRIEN COACHING AWARD TO RECOGNIZE SWIMMING COACHES FOR THEIR PASSION AND DEDICATION TO THE SWIMMING PROFESSION. 
          ELENA'S BEEN WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT SINCE 2013. 
          SHE IS AN AQUATIC SUPERVISOR OVERSEEING A NUMBER OF CITY OUTDOOR POOLS. 
          SHE OVERSEES THE CURRICULUM FOR THE FREE SWIM GROUP SWIMMING LESSONS, AND THE DEPARTMENTS CONDITIONING PROGRAM, WHICH HELPS POTENTIAL LIFEGUARD CANDIDATES PREPARE FOR TESTING. 
          SHE ALSO ASSISTS IN RECRUITING OUR SUMMER LIFEGUARDS AND POOL SUPERVISORS. 
          SO CONGRATULATIONS TO ELAINE FOR THIS AWARD AND YOUR DEDICATION TO OUR CITY AQUATICS PROGRAM. 
          I KNOW THAT COUNCILWOMAN GONZALEZ HAS TRAINED WITH ELAINE IN THE PAST, AND MAYOR, I'M SURE SHE WOULD LIKE TO ALSO THANK ELAINE ON HER ACHIEVEMENT IN BEING HONORED WITH THE CARRIE O'BRIEN COACHING AWARD. 
          CONGRATULATIONS, ELAINE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU CHERYL. 
          COUNCILMAN GONZALEZ. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, WELL, THANK YOU MAYOR AND CHERYL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUBLICLY RECOGNIZE, UH, MY FRIEND ELAINE VALDEZ FOR ALL THE WORK THAT SHE DOES HERE AT THE CITY, ESPECIALLY FOR OUR SWIM, UH, PROGRAM AND OUR SWEET FIRM PROGRAM, AND ALSO ALL OF OUR LIFEGUARDS. 
          SO I KNOW IT'S A, IT'S A FIRST COLD DAY THAT WE'VE HAD, A LITTLE BRISK DAY THAT WE'VE HAD. 
          BUT, UM, NOT SO LONG AGO, WE WERE IN THE SUMMER SEASON ENJOYING OUR, UH, SWIMMING POOLS. 
          AND I HAD THE GREAT PRIVILEGE OF GROUNDBREAKING ON SATURDAY FOR OUR ALMANOR POOL A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, AS WE WERE EVOLVING THE PARK, UM, WE REMOVED THE POOL FROM ALMANOR LAKE PARK, UH, BECAUSE WE WANTED TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO THE LARGER PARK. 
          AND SO WE COMMITTED TO BRINGING THAT SWIM POOL BACK TO THE AREA. 
          AND SO WE DID THE GROUNDBREAKING. 
          AND, UM, I'M BEING A MASTER SWIMMER. 
          I KNOW MY COLLEAGUES AND, UH, SOME OF THE PEOPLE OUT HERE HAVE, UH, HEARD OF ME TALK ABOUT MY IRON MAN TRAINING. 
          AND ELAINE WAS ONE OF OUR FIRST COACHES THERE AT THE, UH, AT THERE, AT THE J C C, AND THEN THE U U T SS A 1604 CAMPUS FOR SWIMMING. 
          ELAINE WAS ONE OF THE WOMEN WHO STAYED, UH, AFTER OUR 6:00 AM SWIM CLASS, UH, AND HELPED ME WITH STROKES, UH, AND HELPED ME WITH ENDURANCE, UM, SO THAT I CAN ULTIMATELY COMPLETE THE FOUR IRONMAN RACES THAT I DID FOR OVER 10 YEARS. 
          I'VE KNOWN ELAINE FOR A LONG TIME, AND SHE'S A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THE KIND OF, UH, LEADERSHIP THAT WE HAVE HERE AT OUR CITY. 
          A WOMAN WHO TAKES, UH, EXTRA CARE, UM, FOR ALL OF HER, HER, UH, THE WOMEN THAT ARE THE PEOPLE THAT SHE TRAINS, BUT ALL OF OUR, UM, UH, OUR STUDENTS HERE IN, IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          AND SHE SHOWS A GREAT COMMITMENT AND ALSO A WONDERFUL KIND SOUL. 
          AND SHE'S MUCH DESERVING OF THIS RECOGNITION WITH THE MASTER SWIMMING NATIONAL MEMBERSHIP, UH, 
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FOR THE MASTER SWIM PROGRAM, OVER 65 MASTER SWIMMERS ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY. 
          AND ELAINE WAS ONE OF THE COACHES THAT WAS RECOGNIZED FOR HER DEDICATION. 
          AND, UH, AND ONE OF THE REASONS I DO LOVE SWIMMING SO MUCH AND WHY I'VE BEEN PROMOTING IT IN OUR COMMUNITY, UH, IS BECAUSE FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE VERY HIGH RATES OF DROWNING, UH, FOR LATINO CHILDREN, UH, ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY, BUT, AND ESPECIALLY HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          BUT IT'S ALSO AN ACTIVITY THAT YOU CAN DO YOUR ENTIRE LIFE. 
          SO IF YOU LEARN TO SWIM WHEN YOU'RE A YOUNG PERSON, YOU CAN, CAN SWIM COMPETITIVELY IN HIGH SCHOOL, BUT YOU CAN ALSO SWIM COMPETITIVELY, UM, FOR YEARS AND YEARS TO COME. 
          AND, UH, SO IT'S A WONDERFUL ACTIVITY THAT WE CAN DO OUR WHOLE LIVES, AND THAT'S REALLY THE KIND OF ACTIVITY THAT WE WANNA BE PROMOTING HERE IN SAN ANTONIO AS WE ARE ADDRESSING SOME OF THE NEEDS WE HAVE FOR HEALTH OUTCOMES. 
          SO, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE ELAINE AND ALL THE WONDERFUL THAT WORK THAT SHE'S DONE, AND WE WILL INVITE ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES TO JOIN US, HOPEFULLY NEXT SUMMER, UH, AS WE DO OUR RIBBON CUTTING FOR OUR NEW, UH, POOL, UM, HERE IN ALMANOR LAKE. 
          SO, ELAINE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA MAKE ANY COMMENTS OR SAY A FEW WORDS. 
          I, I'M JUST VERY GRATEFUL THAT I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AND USE THE GIFTS THAT I HAVE AS A, AS A SWIMMER, AS AN ATHLETE, AS A SWIMMING INSTRUCTOR, AS AN A COACH. 
          SO, THANK YOU AGAIN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, ELENA, AND THANK YOU, UH, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUBLICLY REC. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN GONZALEZ. 
          AND, AND THANK YOU, ELAINE. 
          CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, THAT IS THE BALANCE OF OUR MORNING AGENDA. 
          WE DO HAVE ZONING, UH, A ZONING AGENDA NOW, SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND, AND, UH, RESUME OUR ZONING AGENDA. 
          UM, I HAVE ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION FROM THE CONSENT ZONING AGENDA, AND I HAVE THOSE ITEMS AS Z ONE, P ONE AND Z TWO, Z FOUR, AND Z 12. 
          ARE THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS, UM, MY COLLEAGUES WOULD LIKE TO PULL FROM THE CONSENT ZONING AGENDA? OKAY. 
          IF THERE'S NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT ZONING AGENDA, WHICH IS ALL ITEMS SAVED FOR P Z ONE, P ONE, Z TWO, Z FOUR, AND Z 12 SECOND. 
          OKAY, THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT ZONING AGENDA. 
          ALL ITEMS SAY FOR Z ONE, P ONE, Z TWO, Z FOUR, AND Z 12, UM, THERE ARE A COUPLE CITIZENS SIGNED UP TO FOR ITEMS ON THE BALANCE AND THE CONSENT AGENDA, SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THEM NOW. 
          UH, JACK FINGER, WELL, MAYOR NURNBERG AND OTHER MEMBERS OF OUR ILLUSTRIOUS SAN ANTONIO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS JACK M. 
          FINGER, WELL, A FEW ITEMS WISH TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION ON THIS PORTION OF THE AGENDA. 
          YES. 
          UH, IN DISTRICT ONE, MR. TREVINO, YOU'VE GOT A CASE OR TWO THAT ARE OF CONCERN Z ONE, IT'S ABOUT, UH, CHANGING A, A RESIDENTIAL AREA TO A, WELL, IT SAYS TO A C COMMERCIAL. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, R FORCE, UH, WHAT DOES IT SAY HERE? YES. 
          UH, CD THAT SOUNDS CONDITIONAL USE FOR OUR PROFESSIONAL OFFICE. 
          WELL, SOME PROBLEMS WITH THAT, SIR. 
          FOR NUMBER ONE, THE, UH, THE ZONINGS, UH, ZONING COMMISSION SAID NO TO THAT ONE. 
          YEAH. 
          THEY, UH, THEY AGREED WITH, UH, SOME OF THE, UH, PEOPLE WHO WERE SURVEYED IN THE AREA. 
          YOU HAD ABOUT, WELL, 26 NOTICES GOING OUT. 
          THERE'S SEVEN OF 'EM SAID THEY WERE OPPOSED TO IT. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S QUITE, THAT'S ABOUT, ABOUT AT LEAST A, A, A, UH, CLOSE TO A THIRD THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          WHEN YOU GET ANYTHING OVER FIVE OR 10% YES. 
          YOU, UH, THAT YOU'VE GOT A, A CONTROVERSY ON YOUR HANDS. 
          ALSO, THE NORTH CENTRAL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OPPOSED IT, I GUESS THEY THINK, UH, THE COMMERCIAL OFFICE IN THAT AREA IS JUST A BIT TOO INTENSE. 
          AND CONSEQUENTLY, SIR, I MAYBE YOU, IT'D BEHOOVE YOU TO SAY, SAY NO TO THAT ONE THERE. 
          THE, UH, COUPLE OTHER ONES, SIR, IN, UH, REGARDING P THREE AND Z SIX, THIS TIME IT'S IN, UH, WELL, MR. SHAW IS A, UH, UH, I, LET ME TAKE, LET ME TAKE THAT BACK. 
          I'M GOING TO FINISH UP IN Z ONE HERE. 
          UH, UH, AND DISTRICT ONE, UH, MR. TINO Z THREE Z THREE IS 
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A, A PROPOSAL TO PUT 10 RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS, SHOEHORNED THEM IN INTO ONE LITTLE ADDRESS THERE. 
          OUR, OUR TWO LITTLE ADDRESS, 3 0 6 3 10 EAST PARK AVENUE THERE, THERE'S WHERE YOU HAD 27 NOTICES COULD GO OUT AND, AND OVER 10% SAID THEY DIDN'T LIKE THAT EITHER. 
          10 RESIDENTIAL UNITS THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, THAT'S IN THE TOBIN HILL AREA. 
          WHY, UH, I, I'M, I'M AFRAID THESE REALLY JUST ARE 10 UNITS, JUST AN ACRE OR SO THERE, I'M SORRY, UH, THAT, THAT IS GETTING JUST A LITTLE BIT TOO DENSE. 
          AND THEN, UM, MR. CRUZ SHAW'S, UH, DISTRICT, HE'S NOT IN HIS SEAT RIGHT NOW. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHO'S GONNA CARRY THE WATER FOR HIM ON THIS ONE, BUT, UH, YEAH, I WISH SOMEONE WOULD SAY SOMETHING ABOUT P THREE AND Z SIX. 
          UH, THE, UH, THIS ONE IS ABOUT, ABOUT, UH, COMMER PUTTING A COMMERCIAL, MAKING COMMERCIAL CHANGE FROM A RESIDENTIAL ON SOUTH NEW BRAUNFELS AVENUE. 
          THE, FOR ONE THING, THE, UM, THE DENVER HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OPPOSES THIS THING. 
          I GUESS THEY THINK IT'S A BIT TOO, TOO, UH, COMMERCIAL AS WELL. 
          LET'S SEE IF ANYBODY SAYS NO TO THAT ONE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MR. FINGER. 
          MICHAEL ROGO. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, UH, COUNSEL AND MAYOR, I AM MICHAEL ADREO. 
          UH, I WANTED TO SPEAK ON THESE, UH, UH, ZONING CASES THAT WERE, UH, UH, UNDER CONSIDERATION. 
          I DO WANT TO, UH, ADVOCATE AND IN FAVOR OF ANY ADVANTAGE THAT WOULD BE PROVIDED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO THE AIRPORT, OR, YOU KNOW, TO THE LACKLAND AND, AND THE AIR AVIATION AND, UH, THEIR NECESS THEIR NEEDS. 
          UM, I DO BELIEVE THAT THE AIRPORT SHOULD BE PROVIDED WITH EVERY ADVANTAGE THAT THEY CAN OBTAIN, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THE AIRPORT CAN BE IMPROVED IN A MUCH GREATER CAPABILITY THAN WHAT IT HAS NOW. 
          UH, AIRLINE FLIGHTS CAN BE IMPROVED THERE. 
          UH, I MYSELF HAVE WORKED FOR THREE MAJOR AIRLINES AND WORKED AT SENIOR MANAGEMENT WITH THOSE AIRLINES. 
          SO I CAN TELL YOU THAT YOU COULD BRING IN A BUNCH OF AIRLINES IN HERE AND IMPROVE THE REVENUE BY ONE TO $3 BILLION PER YEAR JUST BY IMPROVING THE AMOUNT OF AIRLINES AND AIR TRAFFIC AND PASSENGERS TO COME THROUGH HERE. 
          YOU SHOULD KNOW WHICH ROUTES ARE MORE FAVORABLE FOR THE AIRLINES. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, LONDON IS A HIGHLY PRIZED ROUTE FOR AIR AIRLINES IN THE UNITED STATES. 
          UM, AND YOU WANT TO GIVE THAT ADVANTAGE TO THE AIRPORTS TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP BECAUSE THE AIRPORTS AND THE AIRLINES HAVE BYPASSED SAN ANTONIO THROUGH THE DECADES PAST. 
          IT'S KINDA LIKE AN INTERSTATE AROUND THE TOWN. 
          AND SAN ANTONIO'S BEEN LEFT OUT OF THE GAME, BUT SAN ANTONIO CAN JUMP INTO IT BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME ROUTES THAT SAN ANTONIO CAN TAKE TO, CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF REGARDING THE AIRLINE INDUSTRY. 
          YOU CAN LOOK ON THE INTERNET ON FLIGHT RADAR 20 FOUR.COM AND LOOK AT ALL THE AIR TRAFFIC THAT'S UP IN THE AIR RIGHT NOW. 
          AT ANY MOMENT ABOVE THE UNITED STATES, YOU CAN SEE PATTERNS OF A HIGHLY TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC, HIGH TRAFFIC, UH, AIRLINE ROUTES ACROSS THE UNITED STATES. 
          SO I JUST WANT TO ADVOCATE FOR THAT. 
          AND, AND OF COURSE, THE AIRLINES HISTORICALLY HAVE A STARTING SALARY OF $22 AN HOUR. 
          I DON'T KNOW TOO MANY JOBS IN SAN ANTONIO THAT PAY THAT MUCH. 
          SO JUST WANNA SAY THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MR. ROGO. 
          ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT ZONING AGENDA. 
          PLEASE VOTE. 
          MOTION CARRIES ITEM Z ONE Z 20 18 1 0 1 FROM R FOUR TO R FOUR CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR PROFESSIONAL OFFICE LOCATED AT 2 7 3 RED ROCK DRIVE. 
          STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS DENIAL. 
          26. 
          NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR, EIGHT OPPOSED NORTH CENTRAL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN OPPOSITION. 
          THIS WILL REQUIRE NINE VOTES TO APPROVE DUE TO OPPOSITION EXCEEDING 20%. 
          AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT HAS AN AMENDING AMENDMENT TO THE SITE PLAN. 
          COUNCILMAN TIO. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UH, AT THIS MOMENT I'D LIKE TO CALL UP MR. JIMENEZ TO MAKE THAT AMENDMENT. 
          UH, COUNCIL INNO ROGER JIMENEZ, 
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I'D LIKE TO AMEND THE SITE PLAN AND CONTINUE THIS FOR NEXT MONTH IF IT'S POSSIBLE. 
          SIR, DO YOU HAVE THE, THE YES, I DO. 
          AND I HAVE SUBMITTED THAT ALSO TO THE CASE MANAGER. 
          OKAY, SO WE HAVE THAT, CAN WE GET THAT TO THE CITY CLERK SO WE GET IT ON THE RECORD? THANK YOU, MR. JIMENEZ. 
          UH, THEREFORE MOTION, UH, TO CONTINUE TO DECEMBER 6TH TO REVIEW AMENDED SITE PLAN. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          OKAY, THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR CONTINUANCE OF ITEM Z ONE, PLEASE VOTE. 
          MOTION CARRIES ITEMS P ONE AND Z TWO. 
          PLAN AMENDMENT 18 0 5 9 AND ZONING KZ 20 18 1 93 AMENDING THE SAN ANTONIO INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT LAND USE PLAN FROM HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO REGIONAL COMMERCIAL FROM MF 33 TO C THREE, LOCATED AT 92 15 LORRAINE STREET. 
          STAFF PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL. 
          SEVEN. 
          NOTICES MAILED ONE IN FAVOR AND ZERO OPPOSED. 
          AND THE APPLICANT IS AMENDING HIS ZONING CASE. 
          COUNCIL VINEO, UH, THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          AT THIS MOMENT I'D LIKE TO ASK MR. JAMES GRIFFIN TO COME UP TO THE PODIUM TO AMEND. 
          HI. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR COUNSEL. 
          UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO AMEND OUR REQUEST FROM C THREE TO C TWO CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR, UH, FULL SALE, UH, VEHICLE SALES AND SERVICE AND, UH, STAFF HAS THE SITE PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. 
          THANK YOU, MR. GRIFFIN. 
          UH, I, I MOTION TO APPROVE THIS ITEM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AS AMENDED. 
          SORRY. 
          THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEMS P ONE AND Z TWO AS AMENDED, PLEASE VOTE. 
          MOTION CARRIES ITEM P Z FOUR Z 20 18, 2 52 FROM C TWO AND I D Z TO I D Z WITH USES PERMITTED IN OH TWO C TWO AND BAR AND TAVERN. 
          ALL OVERLAY DISTRICTS WILL REMAIN UNCHANGED, GENERALLY LOCATED AT 2100 BROADWAY STREET. 
          STAFF AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL. 
          19. 
          NOTICES MAILED AID IN FAVOR AND ZERO OPPOSED. 
          OKAY. 
          COUNCILMAN TNO. 
          EXCUSE ME. 
          COUNCILMAN SALANA? YEAH, MAYOR, I WILL TAKE THIS ONE. 
          I KNOW THAT COUNCILMAN TNO IS RECUSING HIMSELF FROM, UH, THIS ITEM. 
          AND BECAUSE, UH, COUNCILMAN SHAW IS ABSENT AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE PROOF. 
          OKAY, THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM Z FOUR. 
          PLEASE VOTE. 
          MOTION CARRIES ITEM Z 12 Z 20 18 3 18 FROM C THREE TO C THREE S WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR AU AUTO BODY AND PAINT REPAIR, LOCATED AT 75 39 BANDERA ROAD. 
          STAFF AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS, HOURS OF OPERATIONS FROM 7:00 AM TO 6:00 PM MONDAY THROUGH SUNDAY 18. 
          NOTICES MAILED TO AND FAVOR AND ONE OPPOSED COUNSEL SANDOVAL. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS AS READ. 
          OKAY. 
          THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM Z 12. 
          WITH CONDITIONS AS READ, PLEASE VOTE. 
          MOTION CARRIES. 
          ALRIGHT, THAT IS THE REMAINDER OF OUR ZONING AGENDA. 
          THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PATIENCE. 
          HAVE A WONDERFUL AFTERNOON.
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