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WELCOME TO OUR FIR, OUR FIRST PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING OF 2023.
UH, MADAM CLERK, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL RULE COUNCIL MEMBER BRAVO HERE.
COUNCIL MEMBER MAKI RODRIGUEZ.
PRESENT, COUNCIL MEMBER VIVIE.
COUNCIL MEMBER ELIAS CHAIR CAVE VARDA.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THE APPROVAL OF LAST MINUTES, UH, MEETINGS, MINUTES, THERE'S ONE ITEM FOR BRIEFING AND POSSIBLE ACTION AND TWO ITEM ITEMS FOR BRIEFING PURPOSES ONLY.
YOU HAVE SEVEN MINUTES TO, TO FOR COMMENTS, AND THEN WE CAN DO ANOTHER FOLLOW UP ROUND OF THREE MINUTES IF NECESSARY.
AND, UM, AURORA HAS THE TIMER.
UM, DO WE HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY? OKAY.
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IS THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM OUR NOVEMBER 30TH MEETING.DO I HAVE A MOTION? AND A SECOND? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
ANY OPPOSED? I'M GONNA ABSTAIN 'CAUSE I WASN'T AT THAT MEETING.
HOPEFULLY THAT'S THE MOST CONTROVERSIAL VOTE TODAY.
OH, WE DON'T HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT, I'M SORRY.
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A BRIEFING AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON AN INTERLOCAL COOPERATION CONTRACT BETWEEN THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT.UM, BEFORE I START, I'VE GOT WITH ME TODAY, I'VE GOT, UH, ASSISTANT CHIEF KAREN FOX.
I'VE GOT DEPUTY CHIEFS, UH, BOBBY BLANTON AND JESSE SOLEMA, AND LIEUTENANT, UH, MICHELLE RAMOS THIS MORNING.
I AND, UH, OF COURSE, JOE FRANK.
UM, SO THE, THE, THE PURPOSE FOR THIS FIRST PRESENTATION IS TO SEEK APPROVAL FOR AN INTER-LOCAL COOPERATION CONTRACT WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY.
UH, THIS WILL INCREASE OUR FUNDING FOR THE TEXAS ANTI-GANG UNIT OR TAG, UH, MOVING FORWARD.
SO TAG IS FUNDED OUT OF THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE, AND WE STARTED THIS BACK IN 2016.
THE FIDUCIARY, UH, CONTROL OF THE TAG PROGRAM RESTS RIGHT NOW, UH, WITH D P S AND THE PURPOSE OF TAG IS THAT TARGETS HIGHER LEVEL GANG VIOLENCE AND ORGANIZED CRIME.
UH, THE PARTNERS IN THIS EFFORT ARE F B I D E A T A F SHOULD READ A T F, ALCOHOL, TOBACCO AND FIREARMS, HOMELAND SECURITY, AND THEN THE COUNTY, UH, BEXAR COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
AND THERE, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 16, UH, MEMBERS ASSIGNED FROM SS A P D TO THE TAG UNIT.
14 OF THOSE ARE DETECTIVES TO OUR SERGEANTS.
RIGHT NOW, WE ARE RECEIVING, OR WE REIMBURSED FOR $224,000 FOR TAG EXPENSES.
AND THE, UH, THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING OF $518,000 IS AVAILABLE FOR OVERTIME EQUIPMENT AND CRIME AND A CRIME ANALYST.
SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR A CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL TO ACCEPT THAT ADDITIONAL $518,000 FOR A TOTAL OF SEVEN 42,694.
AND I, I THINK THE, UH, IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE IS THAT THERE IS NO CASH OR IN-KIND MATCH ON THIS.
UH, LOOKING AT WHAT TAG DID, UH, 2022 VERSUS 2021, YOU CAN SEE THE INCREASE IN WORKLOAD IN ALL THREE CATEGORIES AS WELL AS, UH, CITYWIDE WE HAVE INCREASES IN ALL THOSE THREE CATEGORIES.
SO THE NEXT STEP, UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO, UH, HAVE THIS TAKEN TO THE FULL CITY COUNCIL ON FEBRUARY 2ND FOR APPROVAL.
AND THAT IS THE END OF, OF THAT PRESENTATION.
UM, CAN YOU GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF A SORT OF DAY, A DAY IN THE LIFE OF A DETECTIVE THAT WORKS IN THIS UNIT? WHAT, WHAT EXAMPLES? UM, SURE.
THEY, THEY, AND ALSO COMMUNITY OUTREACH THAT THEY DO.
AGAIN, THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT AGENCIES THAT WORK IN THAT TAG GROUP, AND THEY WORK, THEY WORK UP CASES, THEY WORK ON INFORMATION FROM INFORMANTS, UH, FROM UNDERCOVER, UH, OFFICERS.
AND AS THEY WORK UP ON THAT, WORK UP THAT INFORMATION AND DEVELOP, UH, DEVELOP LEADS AND WHATNOT, THEN THEY, UM, YOU KNOW, EVENTUALLY, HOPEFULLY RESULT IN A, IN AN ARREST WARRANT FOR WHATEVER, WHATEVER OFFENSES THEY'RE WORKING ON.
BUT IT'S, BUT IT'S ALL INVESTIGATION, IT'S ALL INFORMATION GATHERING AND, AND INTELLIGENCE THAT THEY USE TO DEVELOP THEIR CASES.
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GOING OUT AND ARRESTING THEY'RE DOING THE INVESTIGATION BEHIND THE ARREST, OR, WELL, THE INVESTIGATION COMES FIRST, RIGHT? MM-HMM.SO ON SLIDE FIVE, YOU HAVE THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
IT SAYS, UM, WE HAVE THESE NUMBERS OF, CAN YOU TELL ME THE DIFFERENT, THERE'S A CITYWIDE COLUMN AND THEN THERE'S A COLUMN FOR TAG.
IS THIS THE FULL, AND THEN THIS IS WHAT TAG, THESE ARE THE NUMBERS THAT TAG WHAT AM WHAT AM I TRYING TO SAY? THE CITYWIDE IS INCLUDED IN THE TAG NUMBERS, RIGHT? OR OPPOSITE.
THE TAG NUMBERS ARE INCLUDED IN THE CITYWIDE NUMBERS.
THE N THE NUMBERS ON THE LEFT ARE ALL THE ARRESTS.
UH, AND WARRANTS, UH, CLEARED AND RECOVERED GUNS THAT HAPPEN EVERY DAY ON THE STREET.
AND THEN THE TAG HAS THEIR OWN SEPARATE NUMBERS.
SO COUNCILMAN, THEY'RE NOT INCLUSIVE? YES.
THE, THE TAG NUMBERS ARE INCLUDED IN THE CITYWIDE.
WE WANTED JUST TO GIVE THE COMMITTEE A PERSPECTIVE OF ALL THE WORK THAT SS A P D DOES, UM, AND ALSO HIGHLIGHT THE WORK OF THE TAG UNIT AS WELL.
I, I, IT WAS AN AWKWARD QUESTION CHIEF.
COUNCIL MEMBER, IF I MAY, I'D LIKE TO ASK LIEUTENANT MOLTER TO COME UP.
MARK, DO YOU WANNA COME UP AND TALK A LITTLE BIT? YES.
UM, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD TO THAT, UH, OF THE NUMBERS OR, UM, DAY IN THE LIFE OF, UH, THE DETECTIVES, THEY, THEY DO, UH, EXTRAORDINARY WORK.
THEY DO A LOT OF LONG-TERM INVESTIGATIONS.
THEY'RE LOOKING TO REALLY TRY TO CHOP THE HEAD OFF THE SNAKE AND NOT JUST MAKE, UH, ARBITRARY ARREST, UH, DAY IN AND DAY OUT.
UM, YOU TALKED ABOUT COMMUNITY OUTREACH.
THEY GO TO SCHOOLS, THEY DO PRESENTATIONS AS WELL TO TRY TO DETER, UH, ENTRY INTO GANGS AND, AND, AND THINGS OF THAT SORT.
UM, SO THEY, THEY, BUT I THINK THE QUESTION THAT I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT IS THEY DO ALL THE BACKGROUND INVESTIGATION, BUT THEY'RE THE SAME OFFICERS THAT WILL THEN GO AND DO THE ARREST.
IT'S NOT LIKE A HANDOFF TO ANOTHER OFFICER, OR, UH, NO.
THEY, THEY WILL, THE, THEY WILL DO THE ARREST AS WELL.
UM, THEY WILL, UH, SEEK OTHER UNITS TO, TO ASSIST THEM AS WELL.
UH, THEY DON'T HAVE UNIFORM SUPPORT, UH, DIRECTLY WITH THE TAG.
SO THEY USE STREET CRIMES OR, OR PATROL SAFE SOMETIMES TO, TO HELP AFFECT THE ARREST AS WELL.
AND THIS LAST ITEM THAT SAYS, UH, OR AT LEAST THE LAST, UM, ROW, IT SAYS, GUNS RECOVERED.
WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE GUNS THAT WE RECOVER FROM THE TAG UNIT? THE GUNS, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE HELD UNTIL, UM, THEY'RE HELD UNTIL TRIAL TO USE AS EVIDENCE.
AND THEN, UM, HOWEVER THE CITY DISPOSES OF THE, THE WEAPONS AFTER THAT.
IS IT, UM, IS IT THE CITY OR IS IT THAT POINT? IS IT THE COUNTY THAT TAKES CARE OF THE GUNS? BECAUSE IT'S A BECAUSE THEY'RE IN THE COURT SYSTEM, RIGHT? MORNING COUNSELS, COUNCILWOMAN.
JESSE SOLOMON, CHIEF OF STAFF.
SO ONCE THAT CASE IS ADJUDICATED, UM, IF THAT IS NO LONGER NEEDED FOR EVIDENCE AND THERE'S NO APPEALS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THEN THE CITY WILL DESTROY THAT WEAPON.
AND HOW LONG HAVE WE RECEIVED THIS GRANT? HOW LONG HAVE WE HAD IT? THIS HAS BEEN 2016 IS WHEN IT, UH, STARTED UP AND NOW WE, IT'S CONTINUED ON.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER GERRAN, AND, AND, AND JUST, I'M, I'M SORRY.
THE REASON FOR THE F B I AND, AND A T F INVOLVEMENT IN THIS AND, AND THE COUNTY IS BECAUSE OFTENTIMES THESE INVESTIGATIONS EXTEND BEYOND THE CITY LIMITS.
SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE INVOLVED IN THIS AS WELL WHEN THEY EXTEND BEYOND IT.
UH, THANK YOU CHIEF, UH, PARTNERSHIPS BETWEEN THE STATE AND LOCAL ENFORCEMENT, UH, ENHANCE THE PUBLIC SAFETY IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE ALL WORKING TOGETHER TO KIND OF MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT BEING REDUNDANT IN OUR SERVICES OR, UM, WORKING ON TWO DIFFERENT PROJECTS AND NOT BEING EFFECTIVE.
UH, THIS FUNDING BENEFITS DISTRICT THREE'S PUBLIC SAFETY AND THE WELLBEING OF MY CONSTITUENTS, WHICH I'M VERY THANKFUL FOR.
UM, JUST THIS MORNING IN THE NEWS, NATIONAL TRENDS OF GANG VIOLENCE, UM, I THINK IT WAS THE INCIDENT IN CALIFORNIA IS JUST A REMINDER THAT THIS CONTINUES.
SO MY FIRST QUESTION IS, ARE WE DO, DO WE HAVE A MEANS TO SEE LIKE WHERE WE ARE NATIONALLY? IS OUR GANG VIOLENCE UP THERE? OR IS IT JUST MOVING NATIONALLY, GETTING MORE VIOLENT, GETTING MORE, UH, YOU KNOW, UM, OUT IN THE OPEN? I GUESS I, I, I CAN TELL YOU FROM MY READINGS AND FROM TALKING WITH CHIEFS IN OTHER CITIES, THAT IT'S UP EVERYWHERE.
AND, AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT, AND, AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THIS A LITTLE LATER WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE CRIME STATS, BUT IT IS UNFORTUNATE.
BUT MOST OF THESE, UH, ACTS OF VIOLENCE, UH, NOT NECESSARILY RELATED TO THE, TO THE TAG, BUT MOST OF
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THESE ACTS OF VIOLENCE ARE DUE TO NOTHING BUT ALTERCATIONS AND RISKY BEHAVIOR.AND OBVIOUSLY, IF YOU'RE INVOLVED IN A GANG, NO MATTER WHAT KIND OF GANG THAT IS, WHETHER IT'S AN ORGANIZED TYPE CRIME TYPE OF GANG OR, OR, UH, A DRUG GANG, UH, THAT IS RISKY BEHAVIOR, AND THAT'S GONNA LEAD, THAT'S GONNA U UP YOUR CHANCES OF BECOMING THE VICTIM OF A VIOLENT CRIME.
AND, AND THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS, I KNOW WE HAD, UM, A HOTSPOT INITIATIVE GOING ON CITYWIDE.
HAS THAT BEEN HELPFUL IN, UH, THIS, THE TAG ACCOMPLISHMENTS FOR RECOVERING GUNS AND ARRESTING INDIVIDUALS? OR IS THAT KIND OF SEPARATE FROM THAT? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE HOTSPOT POLICING EFFORT THAT WE'RE DOING WITH THAT? YES, IT HAS BEEN.
IT'S, I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS IN FRONT OF ME, BUT IT HAS DRAMATICALLY REDUCED CRIME IN THOSE HOTSPOT AREAS THAT WE WORK.
AND THOSE HOTSPOT AREAS, THEY COME AND GO.
SO AS THE CRIME DROPS OFF AFTER WE DO THE ANALYSIS, ANOTHER ONE, THAT'S WHERE THE CRIME IS, IS, UH, ADDING UP, WE'LL ADD THAT ONTO OUR HOTS, ONE OF OUR HOTSPOT AREAS.
BUT YES, IT IS BEING EFFECTIVE.
AND MY OTHER QUESTION IS, BECAUSE THIS IS JUST ONE ASPECT OF, OF THIS IS ARE HOW IS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WORKING WITH OUR, UM, NONPROFITS THAT ARE IN, IN THE COMMUNITIES TRYING TO HELP WITH, UM, WITH DETERRING YOUNG PEOPLE? BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THEY'RE GETTING YOUNGER AND YOUNGER, UH, DETERRING YOUNG PEOPLE FROM JOINING GANGS AND ADDRESSING THOSE NEEDS.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE WORKING, WE'RE WORKING WITH NOT ONLY THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, BUT ANY OF THE, ANY OF THE, UH, UM, GROUPS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN, IN, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT ACTIVITIES GOING ON IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS OR IN THEIR, IN THEIR AREA OF EXPERTISE.
SO, I, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO COMMUNICATE, BECAUSE THIS ISN'T, YOU KNOW, I, I, UM, DON'T THINK THERE'S ONE ANSWER FOR EVERYTHING.
WE NEED TO GO INTO THE COMMUNITIES AND FIND DISTRICT SPECIFIC ANSWERS.
AND EVEN WITHIN THOSE DISTRICTS, 'CAUSE DISTRICT THREE, LIKE A HARLANDALE SPECIFIC, UH, SOUTH SIDE SPECIFIC, BUT I, I DO, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, TAKE STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND MOVE THIS FORWARD TO THE FEBRUARY 3RD, A SESSION SECOND.
RIGHT NOW YOU, YOU, YOU CAN MAKE A SECOND.
CAN I START, I'M SORRY, JUST TO CLARIFY.
FEBRUARY 2ND, OR, OR FEBRUARY 2ND.
UM, BUT WE NEED A SECOND TO MOVE.
CAN THE CHAIR DO AS THE CHAIR A SECOND? WE'LL COME BACK.
JIM, ANY OTHER COUNCIL COMMENTS? COUNCILMAN MKI RODRIGUEZ? THANK YOU.
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANSWERS TO THE QUESTION SO FAR.
UM, I'M WONDERING, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO BE SUPPORTIVE AND EXCITED ABOUT A PROGRAM LIKE THIS, UM, BUT I DID, I DO HOPE TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE PROGRAMMING ASPECT OF IT AND HOW THEY MIGHT BE WORKING WITH OTHER, UM, FUNCTIONS WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
IS THERE, WELL, I'LL SAY, I'LL SAY MY UNDERSTANDING IS A LITTLE BIT CONFLICTING RIGHT NOW.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THE GOAL IS PRIMARILY TO, UM, I DON'T WANNA SIMPLIFY IT TOO MUCH, BUT TO ARREST AS IT MEANS TO END GANG VIOLENCE.
UM, AND I'M WONDERING, IS THERE AN ELEMENT OF RESTORATIVE JUSTICE OR REDIRECTION INCORPORATED INTO THIS PROGRAM? AND HOW DOES THIS PROGRAM SERVE IN CONJUNCTION WITH, UM, SOME OF THE OTHER CRIME PREVENTION EFFORTS? HOW, HOW DOES IT SERVE IN, IN CONJUNCTION WITH CRIME PREVENTION EFFORTS? I GUESS WE'LL START, WE'LL START OFF WITH THE FIRST ONE, WHICH IS, IS THERE AN ELEMENT OF RESTORATIVE JUSTICE OR REDIRECTION AS A PART INCORPORATED INTO THE PROGRAM? RESTORATIVE JUSTICE IS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS, IN THIS PROGRAM.
COUNCIL MEMBER, THIS IS, THIS IS A, A, AN INVESTIGATORY BODY THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WORKS THESE ORGANIZED GANGS, UH, DEVELOPS THEIR CASES AND TAKES 'EM TO COURT.
AND COUNCILMAN TO ADD, AND PERHAPS TO ADDRESS YOUR SPECIFIC QUESTION, UH, WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS THE GRANT THAT WE GET FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC, UM, SAFETY, UH, THROUGH THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE.
SO THAT'S A SPECIFIC GRANT TO YOUR QUESTION, IN TERMS OF PERHAPS OTHER PROGRAMS THAT WE MAY HAVE IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO ASSIST THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE PARTICIPATING IN GANGS, SOME PREVENTATIVE MEASURES.
THE DEPARTMENT HAS SOME EDUCATIONAL, UH, COMPONENT OUTSIDE OF THIS PROGRAM.
SO THIS PROGRAM IS PRETTY LIMITED BY, BY THE GUIDELINES OF THE GRANT.
THE OTHER THING THAT I WAS GONNA OFFER, AND THIS ALSO ADDRESSES COUNCILWOMAN VIA GRANT'S, UH, COMMENT, IS WHEN THE CHIEF
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PRESENTS THE CRIME STATISTICS, WE ARE, UM, HE'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT A PARTNERSHIP WITH METRO HEALTH, WHERE WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING A STRATEGIC PLAN FOR, FOR VIOLENCE PREVENTION THAT IS MUCH MORE COMPREHENSIVE THAN JUST THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.AND THAT WILL INCLUDE SOME OF THE ELEMENTS THAT YOU ARE DISCUSSING.
UH, WE WILL BE COMING BACK TO PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE TO PRESENT THAT IN MORE DETAIL.
BUT THE, THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION THAT THIS PARTICULAR GRANT IS LIMITED TO THE GUIDELINES THAT WE GET FROM, FROM D P SS.
I GUESS WHAT I AM, HMM, LET'S START OFF, THIS IS GONNA SOUND LIKE A VERY SIMPLE, SIMPLE QUESTION, BUT WHAT WOULD YOU DE WHAT WOULD YOU DESCRIBE TO BE THE PRIMARY PURPOSE OF THIS SPECIFIC PROGRAM, UM, IN WHICH WE RECEIVE THIS GRANT? THE PRIMARY PURPOSE OF, OF TAG IS TO, UH, REDUCE THE, THE ACTIVITY OF ORGANIZED GANGS, UH, WHATEVER THEY MAY BE INVOLVED IN, UH, AND DRUGS AND, UH, VIOLENT CRIME AND GUNS.
AND SO, WHERE MY, WHERE MY, UM, THE CONFLICT THAT'S WEIGHING ON ME RIGHT NOW IS THAT THERE'S FOLK WHO MAY BE NEWLY INTRODUCED TO A SORT OF GANG OR ORGANIZED CRIME LIFESTYLE.
AND SO I'M WONDERING IF SOMETIMES, UM, IT'S FOUND THAT MAYBE WE REDIRECT THEM AND THERE'S FOLK WHO ARE REALLY THE, THE PROBLEM, THE BIG PROBLEM.
AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF ALL OF THEM ARE TREATED THE SAME WAY AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, DO AWAY WITH ALL, YOU KNOW, ARREST EVERYONE.
OR IF IT'S, HEY, THIS PERSON'S REALLY NOT, THIS IS A GOOD, THIS IS A GOOD KID.
MAYBE DID, MESSED UP ONE OR TWO TIMES.
WHAT HAP WHAT HAPPENS THEN, I GUESS IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT COUNCIL MEMBER, IF WE, IF WE DEVELOP PROBABLE CAUSE TO ARREST BASED ON WHATEVER INFORMATION WE COME UP WITH, UH, IN, IN THE INVESTIGATIONS, THEN WE'RE GOING TO ARREST.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO LOOK FOR ALTERNATIVE WAYS TO RESOLVE THAT ISSUE.
IF THERE'S PROBABLE CAUSE TO ARREST, WE'RE GONNA MAKE AN ARREST.
I GUESS, UM, SO WHAT ARE THE OTHER TAG EXPENSES? SO I SAW THAT THE DETECTIVES AND SERGEANTS WERE LISTED AND THAT OTHER ELIGIBLE EXPENSES WERE OVER TIME AND EQUIPMENT, AND I SEE A CRIME, UH, ANALYST AS AN ELIGIBLE EXPENSE.
WHAT ROLE DO THEY CURRENTLY PLAY IN THE PROGRAM? LIKE, DO WE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT EXPENSE? WELL, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T HEAR THE LAST PART AGAIN.
UM, SO I SEE THAT THE ELIGIBLE EXPENSES, UM, ARE OVER TIME EQUIPMENT AND A CRIME ANALYST.
AND SO I'M WONDERING WHAT ARE ALL THE EXPENSES THAT WE USE SO FAR? IS IT THE DETECTIVES AND THE SERGEANTS? UM, OR DO WE HAVE SOME OF THE OVERTIME, THE EQUIPMENT, AND DO WE HAVE A, HAVE A CRIME ANALYST AS WELL? AND, AND I'M GONNA ASK, UM, MAYBE RICK RILEY TO TALK ABOUT THE EXPENSES, BUT WE HAVE AN ADMINISTRATOR OF THE PROGRAM, AND THERE'S SOME OPERATING EXPENSES LIKE, UH, OFFICE EXPENSE, CABLE TV.
THOSE ARE THE CURRENT EXPENSES COVERED BY THE GRANT.
THE ADDITIONAL HALF A MILLION DOLLARS IS OUR OVERTIME SUPPLIES AND EQUIPMENT AND THE CRIME ANALYSTS AS WELL.
DO WE HAVE THE CRIME ANALYST THOUGH? WE, WE DON'T.
UM, THIS ADDITIONAL HALF A MILLION DOLLARS WILL ALLOW US TO ADD THE CRIME ANALYST POSITION.
SO THE, THE, UH, THE 518,000, UH, COVERS 170,000 ISH FOR OVERTIME, 136,000 FOR VEHICLE RENTALS, AUDIO, VISUAL EQUIPMENT, 25,000 CRIME ANALYST, 86,000, AND THEN INDIRECT COSTS 101,000.
SO WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVE, WE'RE GOING TO GET A CRIME ANALYST.
CAN YOU DESCRIBE A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT YOU HOPE FOR THEM TO DO WITHIN THE PROGRAM, OR WHAT THEY WILL BE DOING? I DON'T KNOW WHO THE ANSWER IS.
CHIEF, CAN YOU HIGHLIGHT WHAT THE CRIME ANALYST WILL DO, UM, IF, IF WE, UM, GET THIS ADDITIONAL HALF A MILLION DOLLARS SPECIFICALLY FOR TAG? SURE.
SO THE CRIME ANALYST WILL, WILL, UM, WILL RESEARCH, UH, INDIVIDUALS, UH, WHO ARE INVOLVED IN, IN, UH, THE ACTIVITY.
THEY'LL, THEY'LL LOOK AT THE CRIME MAPS AND SEE WHERE THESE ACTIV, EXCUSE ME, ACTIVITIES ARE OCCURRING.
MARK, DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING TO THIS? EXCUSE ME.
THE, THE CRIME ANALYSTS, THEY, THEY ANALYZE, UH, DISSEMINATE INFORMATION, UM, UH, RESEARCH CRIME TRENDS.
UM, THEY'RE, WE HAVE OTHER ANALYSTS ON THE DEPARTMENT, BUT THIS ONE'S FOCUSED STRICTLY WITH TAG.
UM, AND THE RESOURCES WOULD ONLY BE FOR, FOR TAG TO, UM, TO, TO RESEARCH THEIR GANG MEMBERS, UH, COLLECT THE ANALYTICS, COLLECT THE DATA, BE ABLE TO REPORT IT BACK, DISSEMINATE IT OUT TO THE REST OF THE TAG, UM, DISSEMINATE IT OUT TO THE DEPARTMENT, UH, FOR, FOR THE GROWING, UH, GANG
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PROBLEMS, GANG TRENDS THAT ARE GOING ON.I KNOW I'M PROBABLY RUNNING OUTTA TIME, AND I'M HOPEFUL THAT I'LL BE ABLE TO CHIME IN AGAIN, BUT IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THE PROGRAM HAS TO OPERATE IN ISOLATION FROM THE REST OF THE DEPARTMENT, OR ONLY SERVE THIS PURPOSE.
AND I CHALLENGE THAT A LITTLE BIT.
AND I'M WONDERING HOW CAN WE BE MORE CREATIVE TO, YOU KNOW, IF THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT WE'RE GONNA FUND AND THAT WE'RE GONNA BE SEEKING THESE GRANTS FOR, UM, HOW DO WE MAKE IT MORE EFFECTIVE THROUGH, UH, THAT, HOW DO WE MAKE IT MORE LIKE THE CRIME PREVENTION METHOD AND, UH, METHODOLOGIES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO USE AND NOT MAKE IT SOUND THE WAY I THINK IT SOUNDS RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS NOT THAT I DON'T, SURE.
AND MAYBE THE LIEUTENANT OR SOMEBODY ELSE CAN, UH, ELABORATE TO THIS, BUT IT DOESN'T WORK IN ISOLATION FOR ALL THE OTHER WORK THAT WE DO IN THE, IN THE DEPARTMENT.
UH, WE DO HAVE TO TRACK IT SEPARATELY FOR PURPOSES OF THE GRANT.
BUT AS THE LIEUTENANT MENTIONED, IT WORKS, FOR INSTANCE, WHEN THEY'RE READY TO MAKE AN ARREST, THEY, UM, ARE SUPPORTED BY OTHER UNITS, LIKE STREET CRIMES, FOR EXAMPLE.
SO IT IS PART OF THE, THE BIG S A P D DEPARTMENT.
UM, IT'S, IT'S NOT IN ISOLATION, BUT FOR PURPOSES OF THE GRANT, WE'RE SHARING WITH YOU THE ELIGIBLE EXPENSES AND THE ACTIVITIES THAT ARE FUNDED THROUGH THIS SPECIFIC, UM, GRANT, PERHAPS WHEN WE GET TO THE CRIME STATISTICS PORTION OF THE AGENDA TODAY, YOU'LL SEE THE WHOLE DEPARTMENT, UM, ACTIVITY IN TERMS OF, UM, CRIME PREVENTION AND TO ADDRESS SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS ON THE, THE, UH, ACTIVITIES AND THE PROGRAMS THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS DOING TO ADDRESS VIOLENT CRIME AND PROPERTY CRIME IN OUR COMMUNITY.
THERE'S, THERE'S SPECIFIC PARAMETERS WITHIN WHICH WE HAVE TO WORK ACCORDING TO THE GRANT.
AND, UH, ASSISTANT CHIEF FOX IS GONNA TALK TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE LOWER LEVEL GANG MEMBERS.
LET ME JUST ADD TO THE CRIME ANALYST PIECE TO THIS AS WELL.
AND SO OUR CRIME ANALYSTS WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS, UH, TO OUR FEDERAL PARTNERS, DATABASES THAT OUR CRIME ANALYSTS WOULD NOT HAVE ACCESS TO.
SO IF WE HAD A SS A P D ANALYST, UM, IN ANOTHER AREA THAT OUR, UM, TAG UNIT WAS UTILIZING, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS, UH, TO THOSE FEDERAL PARTNERS DATABASES THAT WE WOULD NEED AS PART OF THE TAG UNIT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE TO YOU.
SO HAVING OUR OWN CRIME ATLAS WITHIN TAG WOULD ALLOW US TO, TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE FBI'S DATABASES, THE DE'S DATABASES, EV, EVERYBODY THAT BELONGS TO TAG, WE WOULD HAVE ACCESS THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT CRIME ANALYST.
SO THAT'S ONE PIECE OF HAVING OUR OWN CRIME ANALYST WITHIN TAG.
BUT, BUT EARLY ON, WHEN, WHEN CHIEF WAS GIVING THIS PRESENTATION, HE TALKED ABOUT HOW TAG, UH, WORKS TOWARD THOSE HIGHER LEVEL, UM, GANG MEMBERS.
AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CARTELS.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THOSE TRANSNATIONAL GANGS THAT OUR NORMAL PATROL OFFICERS DON'T REALLY ENGAGE WITH IN THE, UM, ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS.
AND SO THOSE ARE THE VERY DEEP, UH, INVESTIGATIONS THAT, THAT WE ENGAGE WITH IN TAG.
THAT'S WHY WHEN THE LIEUTENANT TALKED ABOUT LONG-TERM INVESTIGATIONS, THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S THE CARTELS AND IT'S THE TRANSNATIONAL GANGS THAT TAKE US, UH, A LONG TIME TO GET INTO.
AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE, WITH THE F B I AND THE, AND THE STATE LEVEL.
AND, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS UNIT DOES.
IT'S NOT THE LOWER LEVEL, UM, STREET GANGSTERS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND IF FOR SOME REASON THEY WERE TO GET CAUGHT UP IN AN INVESTIGATION LIKE THIS, WE WOULD REALLY RELY ON THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO DECIDE, UH, OKAY, ARE YOU JUST LIKE EARLY INTO A GANG AND YOU GOT CAUGHT UP IN THIS? AND THEN MAYBE THE PUNISHMENT WOULD NOT BE AS HARSH AS IT WOULD BE FOR, YOU KNOW, A HIGHER LEVEL CARTEL MEMBER OR A TRANSNATIONAL GANGSTER WHO, YOU KNOW, IS, IS KILLING PEOPLE AND, AND RUNNING GUNS BACK AND FORTH ACROSS THE BORDERS AND THAT SORT OF THING.
SO, SO THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE, THE TAG UNIT AND THEN WHAT OUR OFFICERS ARE DOING EVERY DAY WITH LOWER LEVEL GANG GANG MEMBERS ON THE STREET.
IF, IF THAT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
UM, SO I WASN'T READY TO SECOND THIS EARLIER 'CAUSE I JUST HAD QUESTIONS.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA MAKE US SAFER, THAT'S SOMETHING I WANT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MY CONSTITUENTS WANT.
UH, WHAT DID RESONATE WITH ME IS I SAW THE NUMBER OF GUNS THAT THEY WERE GETTING OFF THE STREET, AND I KNOW THAT'S A PROBLEM.
AND SO IF, IF, IF THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT'S GETTING GUNS OFF THE STREET, THAT'S A GOOD THING IN MY, IN MY MIND, UH, CHIEF FOX, THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL WHAT YOU JUST EXPLAINED, BECAUSE ONE OF MY FIRST QUESTIONS WAS GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN ANTI-GANG UNIT.
WHEN YOU SAY ANTI-GANG UNIT, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT A GANG BEING A TRANSNATIONAL GANG?
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ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT MAFIAS? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ORGANIZED CRIME, OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT HIGH SCHOOL KIDS? RIGHT.A HIGH SCHOOL KID GANG OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND I, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, UM, LIVED HISTORY, UH, WILL RESONATE WITH HUMAN BEINGS MUCH MORE SO THAN HISTORY THAT YOU'VE READ ABOUT EXPERIENCED HISTORY.
IT'S EXPERIENCED HISTORY IS VERY POWERFUL AND IT, IT SITS WITH YOU.
AND SO AS A POLICYMAKER, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THINGS, YOU'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOING TO BE INCLINED TO THINK ABOUT THOSE THINGS.
AND WHEN I THINK BACK IN HIGH SCHOOL, THERE WAS A GOVERNOR'S OFFICE FUNDED ANTI-GANG UNIT THAT WOULD COME AND HARASS KIDS AT MY SCHOOL AND PULL 'EM OUTTA THEIR CARS AND, YOU KNOW, ASK THEM WHICH GANG THEY WERE IN AND SLAM THEIR HEAD AGAINST THE HOOD AND KICK THEIR FEET OUT FROM UNDER THEM.
AND WE'RE ABOUT TO HAVE A, A PRESENTATION ON POLICE COMMUNITY RELATIONS.
AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WASN'T ANYTHING LIKE THIS.
AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS NOT WHAT THAT IS AT ALL.
AND, AND CHIEF FOX, YOU, YOU GAVE ME A LOT OF CONFIDENCE IN THAT.
UM, BECAUSE, AND WE NEED THAT DATA TO KNOW ABOUT ORGANIZED CRIME THAT'S GOING BEYOND SAN ANTONIO.
UM, AND, AND SO, UM, AFTER THAT EXPLANATION, I FEEL MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THIS.
AND, UM, COUNCILWOMAN
I MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE THIS FORWARD TO THE, A SESSION ON FEBRUARY 2ND FOR, UH, FULL COUNCIL DISCUSSION.
WAS THERE ANY MORE COMMENT? OKAY.
COUNCILMAN K RODRIGUEZ? I GUESS I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THIS PROGRAM ISN'T ABOUT THE LOW LEVEL GANG ACTIVITY, IT'S ABOUT THE, THE TRANSNATIONALS THAT YOU WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT, THE CARTELS, THAT KIND OF STUFF.
UM, AND SO THERE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE MUCH ROOM FOR REDIRECTION, BUT THERE ARE EFFORTS AND THERE'S, I I GUESS THIS IS A QUESTION.
'CAUSE ACCORDING TO THE GOALS LISTED IN TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, IT STATES THE GRANT INCLUDES APPROACHES TO COMBAT GANG VIOLENCE THROUGH COORDINATION OF GANG PREVENTION, INTERVENTION AND SUPPRESSION ACTIVITIES.
AND SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S ROOM FOR THE OTHER PARTS OF IT.
AND SO I'M WONDERING HOW ACCURATE THAT OR WHAT YOUR READ OF THAT IS, IF THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THIS SPECIFIC GRANT TO SUPPORT, UH, GANG PREVENTION AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
OR IS YOUR READ THAT IT ABSOLUTELY CAN ONLY BE USED FOR THIS COUNCIL MEMBER? THE, THE, THE TAG UNIT, A AGAIN, IS AN INVESTIGATORY UNIT THAT WORKS THESE LARGER CASES, UH, TRANSNATIONAL CASES AS, UH, WAS MENTIONED, UH, CROSS BORDER CASES.
AND SO THAT, THAT IS THEIR SPECIFIC FUNCTION AND THAT IS WHAT THEY PRIMARILY DO.
UH, SO THERE, THERE, THERE'S NOT, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE, THERE'S NOTHING GOING ON EXCEPT INVESTIGATIONS THAT, THAT WILL LEAD TO AN ARREST AND, AND, AND A DISRUPTION OF THE GANG ACTIVITY THAT THEY'RE, THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON.
I'M COM I'M COMFORTABLE SEEING THIS GO TO A SESSION.
UH, I GUESS WHAT I'M WONDERING, SO IS THE GRANT MEANT TO, I UNDERSTAND THE TAG HAS TO OPERATE A CERTAIN WAY, BUT DOES THIS GRANT HAVE TO ONLY GO TO ATTACK THIS PROGRAM, OR CAN IT BE USED FOR OTHER, IT CANNOT BE USED FOR OTHER GANG PREVENTION? NO, SIR.
ANY OTHER COMMENT? OKAY, WITH THE MOTION AND THE SECOND, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND VOTE, UH, ALL ITEMS. AND I'M SORRY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE, BRIEFING ON SS A P D 2022 CRIME STATISTICS.
SO, UH, IN, FOR ALMOST 90 YEARS NOW, 93 YEARS TO BE SPECIFIC, UH, THE F B I HAS BEEN COMPILING DATA, UH, AND COLLECTING DATA, UH, CRIME DATA UNDER A PROGRAM CALLED U C R UNIFORM CRIME REPORTING.
UNIFORM CRIME REPORTING, SIMPLY FOCUSED ON THE MOST SERIOUS CRIME IN A CRIME EVENT, I'LL SAY.
SO IF SOMEONE BREAKS INTO A HOME, YOU GOT A BURGLARY.
IF SOMEONE, UH, ASSAULTS SOMEONE IN THE HOME, YOU HAVE AN ASSAULT.
IF SOMEONE UNFORTUNATELY WOULD GET MURDERED IN THAT, YOU HAVE A MURDER.
AND THEN THE ONLY CRIME THAT COUNTS WHEN WE'RE COMPILING THOSE NUMBERS IS THE HOMICIDE.
SO THE BURGLARY AND THE ASSAULT
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ARE NOT COUNTED.SO, AND THAT'S THE WAY U C R WORKED.
U C R COUNTED, UH, HOMICIDES, MURDER, ROBBERY, RAPE, AGGRAVATED ASSAULT, UM, ROBBERY, AND I BELIEVE ARSON.
SO THEY ARE, THEY, THEY WERE YOUR UNIFORM CRIME NUMBERS.
AND AT THE END OF EVERY YEAR, CITIES WOULD REPORT THEIR NUMBERS.
AND IT'S NOT MANDATORY, IT'S ACTUALLY VOLUNTARY, WOULD REPORT THEIR NUMBERS TO THE F B I.
AND THEN SEVERAL MONTHS LATER, OR A FEW MONTHS LATER, THE F B I WOULD PUT OUT THOSE NUMBERS OFFICIALLY AS TO WHAT EACH CITY'S CRIME LOOKED LIKE.
SO TODAY, UH, THEY, WELL, ACTUALLY IN JANUARY, UH, IN, IN 2021, THE F B I SWITCHED THEIR COMPILING DA COMPILING METHOD TO WHAT IS CALLED BRS, THE NATIONAL, UM, INCIDENT BASED REPORTING SYSTEM.
SO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NEIGHBORS AND U C R IS NOW THAT SAME EVENT THAT I MENTIONED.
WE ARE COUNTING THE BURGLARY, WE'RE COUNTING THE ASSAULT, WE'RE COUNTING THE MURDER AS WELL.
SO WE COUNT, UH, A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT CRIMES THAT ARE COMMITTED IN A SINGLE EVENT AS OPPOSED TO THE MOST SERIOUS CRIME.
UH, SS A P D WAS ACTUALLY CERTIFIED IN JANUARY, ON JANUARY 25TH, 2021, AND WE BEGAN REPORTING, UH, IN THE NIBRS SYSTEM.
SO BRS UH, CRIMES ARE CLASSIFIED AS GROUP A OR GROUP B.
GROUP A IS THE MOST SERIOUS OFFENSES, UH, THAT ARE COLLECTED.
AND, UH, EACH OF THOSE OFFENSES COMMITTED WITHIN AN INCIDENT IS, IS, UH, ASSIGNED TO ONE OF THE, ONE OF THOSE CLASSIFICATIONS, ONE OF THESE CLASSIFICATIONS, CRIMES AGAINST PERSONS SOCIETY OR PROPERTY.
SO IN, IN GROUP A, THERE'S 24 CATEGORIES, AND THERE THERE ARE OVER 50 OFFENSE TYPES.
GROUP B ARE ONLY, ARE OFFENSES WHERE ONLY AN ARREST IS MADE.
UH, AND THERE'S 10, UH, CATEGORIES OR SO THAT ARE IN, UH, GROUP B.
SO YOUR, YOUR GROUP A OFFENSES, UH, ARE LISTED IN THOSE THREE CATEGORIES.
UH, CRIMES AGAINST PERSON, UH, CRIMES AGAINST SOCIETY.
AND IF, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT LIST AGAINST CRIMES AGAINST SOCIETY, THERE'S NOT A VICTIM LIKE THERE IS IN A CRIME AGAINST A PERSON.
THERE'S VICTIMS, BUT NOT AS, UH, DEFINED AS IN CRIMES AGAINST PERSONS.
AND THEN, UH, THE THIRD CATEGORY IS AGAINST PROPERTY, UH, YOUR ARSON, ROBBERY, BURGLARY, AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
AND THERE'S OTHER CRIMES IN THERE THAT, THAT WERE, WERE NEVER EVEN REPORTED UNDER U C R.
UH, YOUR COUNTERFEITING, UH, DESTRUCTION OF PROPERTY, EMBEZZLEMENT, EXTORTION, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS WERE NOT EVEN INCLUDED BEFORE.
UH, LOOKING AT OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE, UH, IN 2022, UH, OUR OVERALL CRIME, OUR OVERALL NUMBER OF CALLS INCREASED.
HOWEVER, THE NUMBER, THE NUMBERS OF, UM, EMERGENCY CALLS DECREASED WHILE THE NUMBER OF NON-EMERGENCY CALLS INCREASED.
AND IT, AND IT LED TO AN OVERALL INCREASE IN CALLS FOR SERVICE, UH, AS COMPARED TO 2021.
SO LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS AGAIN, UH, 2021 OR 2022 VERSUS 2021, CRIMES AGAINST PERSONS INCREASED SLIGHTLY 2.5%, UH, AGAINST SOCIETY, 5% AND AGAINST PROPERTY, UH, UH, SIGNIFICANT INCREASE TO 14%.
UM, ALTHOUGH THERE'S A SLIGHT INCREASE, UH, COMPARED TO LAST YEAR, I WILL SAY THAT SAN ANTONIO REMAINS A SAFE CITY.
UH, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, MANY, MANY TIMES THAT YOUR CHANCES OF BECOMING THE VICTIM OF A VIOLENT CRIME GO ARE ASTRONOMICAL.
IF YOU ARE LIVING, UH, OR ENGAGING IN HIGH RISK BEHAVIOR OR LIVING A HIGH RISK LIFESTYLE.
UH, IF YOU ARE, UM, TAKING YOUR KIDS TO SCHOOL, GOING TO THE GROCERY STORE, GOING TO WORK EVERY DAY, OR JUST BEING RETIRED EVERY DAY, THEN YOUR CHANCES OF BEING THE VICTIM OF A VIOLENT CRIME IN SAN ANTONIO ARE VERY, VERY LOW.
UM, SO AGAIN, LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS HERE, UM, WE SAW A 2 5, 2 0.5% INCREASE IN THE ASSAULTIVE OFFENSIVE ASSAULTIVE OF OFFENSES, UH, HOMICIDE.
WE SAW A PRETTY DRAMATIC INCREASE WITH 43, UH, 43%, 231 HOMICIDES.
BUT THAT INCLUDES THE 53 HOMICIDES FROM THE TRAILER DOWN ON, UH, UM, ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
UM, THE, THE BIG DRIVER, UH, AND THE
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INCREASE, THE CAUSE OF THE INCREASE IS THAT THAT HIGH PERCENTAGE OF HOMICIDES, UM, SEX OFFENSES, WE HAD A DRAMATIC INCREASE.AND THE NUMBER IS BECAUSE THAT DECREASE IS BECAUSE, UM, THE, THE, SEE IF I CAN GET THIS RIGHT, THE STATUTORY RAPE CATEGORY JUMPED UP INTO SEX OFFENSES, WHEREAS BEFORE IT WAS COUNTED, UH, I'M SORRY, YEAH, INTO SEX OFFENSES WHERE IT WAS COUNTED BEFORE IN THE NON FORCIBLE CATEGORY.
AND THAT'S, UH, THAT EXPLANATION IS ON THE BOTTOM OF THE, OF, OF THE, UH, SLIDE THERE.
UH, LOOKING AT OUR HOMICIDE FACTORS, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, ARGUMENTS ALTERCATIONS IS THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF, UH, UH, THE HIGHEST CAUSE OF, OF HOMICIDES IN 2022.
UM, HUMAN TRAFFICKING, WE HAD THAT 54, AND THERE WERE ONLY 53, UH, BODIES IN THE TRAILER.
HOWEVER, THERE WAS A TRAFFICKER MURDERED, UH, DURING THE YEAR, AND THAT TRA UH, TRAFFICKER'S MURDER COUNTED AS A, UM, AS A TRAFFICKING OFFENSE.
AND THEN, UH, OUR NEXT RELATED NUMBER OF HOMICIDES IS, UH, THEFT RELATED, UH, UH, NARCOTICS RELATED, AGAIN, ALL HIGH RISK BEHAVIOR.
AND ON THE RIGHT YOU SEE THE ETHNIC AND THE, UH, RACIAL BREAKDOWN OF THE VICTIMS OF THE HOMICIDES.
78 MALE, 78% MALE, 22% FEMALE CRIMES AGAINST SOCIETY, UH, 4.9% INCREASE, PRIMARILY DUE TO NARCOTICS AND, AND WEAPONS OFFENSES, CRIMES AGAINST PROPERTY PROP.
YOU KNOW, PROPERTY CRIMES IS A, UH, IS A CRIME OF OPPORTUNITY.
UM, SOMEBODY'S WALKING DOWN THE STREET, THEY SEE A LAWNMOWER OR A CHAINSAW OR SOMETHING SITTING IN SOMEONE'S YARD, THEY STEAL IT.
THEY, THEY COUNT AGAINST OUR NUMBERS.
UM, THAT IS OUR, OUR GREATEST, UM, NUMBER OF OFFENSES IN THE THEFT CATEGORY.
IN, UH, MOTOR VEHICLE THEFT, UH, IS HIGH, UH, ROBBERIES IS DOWN, AND OUR STOLEN PROPERTY NUMBERS, AGAIN, IS WAY UP.
AGAIN, THE PRIMARY DRIVER OF, OF OUR PROPERTY CRIMES ARE THEFT, UH, AND BURGLARY.
UH, MOST PROPERTY CRIMES, AGAIN, CRIME OF OPPORTUNITY.
WE MEET REGULARLY WITH NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS, HOAS AND NAS, AND TALK ABOUT CRIME PREVENTION STRATEGIES.
AND WE, EVERY YEAR, STARTING AROUND THANKSGIVING, WE HAVE A, A HOLIDAY BURGLARY OF VEHICLE TASK FORCE.
AND THAT, UH, IS COMPRISED OF A NUMBER OF MEMBERS THROUGHOUT THE DEPARTMENT.
UH, THIS YEAR WE HAD SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT, MADE SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT CASES, 58 ARRESTS, 38 WEAPONS RECOVERIES, AND 39 VEHICLE RECOVERIES.
THE, UH, BREAKDOWN OF THE, UH, UH, ETHNIC AND RACIAL, UH, VICTIMS, UH, RACIAL AND ETHNICITY OF THE VICTIMS, UH, IS ON THE SLIDE TO THE RIGHT.
I MEAN, THE, THE, UH, IS ON THE RIGHT OF THE SCREEN.
LAST YEAR WE FOC UH, WE, WE ENTERED INTO A CONTRACT WITH U T S A, UH, THE CRIMINOLOGY DEPARTMENT, AND WE'VE WORKED WITH THEM TO COME UP WITH A VIOLENT CRIME REDUCTION PLAN FOR 2023.
AND, UM, WE'RE IN THE FIRST PHASE OF THAT.
THE FIRST PHASE WILL LAST FOR A YEAR.
THAT IS, THAT FIRST PHASE IS COMPRISED SOLELY OF HOTSPOT POLICING.
UH, WE WILL BRING THAT TO A B SESSION IN FEBRUARY ON THE FIRST, AND WE'LL HAVE THE, UH, CRIMINOLOGIST FROM, UH, FROM U T S A THERE TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
SO WHAT WE STARTED WAS LAST YEAR WAS WE STARTED THE MICRO HOTSPOT POLICING, UH, STRATEGY.
AND THAT I MENTIONED THAT EARLIER, THAT WE SAW A SIGNIFICANT DECREASE IN VIOLENT CRIMES AND THOSE HOTSPOTS THAT WE WERE WORKING.
AND AGAIN, EACH TIME THE, THE, WE REDUCED CRIME IN THAT HOTSPOT, IT DROPS OFF THE MAP.
AND AS WE SEE IT INCREASING ELSEWHERE, IT GOES UP ON THE MAP.
AND WE CONTINUE THAT, THAT PROGRAM IN THAT NEW AREA.
UH, UNDER THE PROGRAM WITH U T S A, UH, OUR, OUR MAPS ARE UPDATED EVERY 60 DAYS.
HOTSPOTS, UH, AS I MENTIONED, ARE REMOVED OR
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ADDED BASED ON THE UPDATED CRIME ANALYSIS.AND WE WILL DO AN OVERALL STRATEGY REVIEW EVERY SIX MONTHS.
UH, LAST YEAR WE COMMISSIONED A, UM, A STAFFING STUDY.
THAT STAFFING STUDY IS PROBABLY THREE QUARTERS OF THE WAY DONE.
AND IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR, OR APRIL OF THIS YEAR, WE EXPECT THAT PLAN TO BE COMPLETED.
AND, UH, WE'LL REPORT THOSE NUMBERS TO COUNCIL.
THEN VIOLENCE PREVENTION PLAN, MARIA MENTIONED IT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER.
WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING WITH METRO HEALTH, UH, AND DEVELOPING THAT PLAN SO THAT OUR APPROACH TO PLAN TO, TO CRIME IS NOT SIMPLY TRYING TO ARREST IT AWAY.
SO WE'LL BE WORKING WITH, UH, WITH CLAUDE AND HIS TEAM TO DEVELOP THAT VIOLENCE PREVENTION PLAN IN CONJUNCTION WITH METRO HEALTH AND THEN A PUBLIC SAFETY DASHBOARD.
WE'RE WORKING ON THAT PUBLIC, ON A PUBLIC SAFETY DASHBOARD TO FIRST PROVIDE IT TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.
SO YOU'LL HAVE THE NUMBERS READILY AVAILABLE TO YOU.
AND THEN ONCE THAT IS DONE, WE'LL EVENTUALLY, UH, UPDATE THAT AND, AND PUT IT ON OUR WEBSITE.
AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
UM, I WANT TO START WHERE YOU LEFT OFF WITH THE MICRO HOTSPOTS.
ARE WE, UM, CAN WE GET SPECIFIC DATA ONCE YOU MOVE THE HOTSPOT? AND, UH, I KNOW THAT WE DON'T, UH, PUBLICIZE THE HOTSPOTS BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT, UH, YOU KNOW, BAD GUYS TO KNOW WHERE THEY ARE.
BUT, UM, WHEN, WHEN ONCE WE'VE MOVED IT, CAN WE SEE STATISTICS, UH, TO SHOW BEFORE AND AFTER, LIKE WHAT THE EFFECT OF THE CONCENTRATION IN THAT AREA YES.
UM, AND THEN THE, UM, DO WE TRACK ONE OF THE SLIDES YOU TRACKED, UH, GENDER AND RACE IN REGARD TO HOMICIDES? DO WE CHAT, TRACK, UH, SEXUAL ORIENTATION, THAT DEMOGRAPHIC? NO, WE DO NOT.
IS IT POSSIBLE TO DO THAT? I THINK THAT COULD BE HELPFUL TO SEE.
UM, NO, I, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S BE KIND OF DIFFICULT TO ASK A, A VICTIM'S SURVIVORS WHAT THE, YOU KNOW, THAT QUESTION.
I, I'M JUST, I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
I, I'M THINKING SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO HATE CRIMES, YOU KNOW, ARE WE TRACKING THAT ANYWHERE? WELL, IN A HATE CRIME, IT'S DIFFERENT.
WE WOULD KNOW THAT BECAUSE A HATE CRIME, YOU'VE, THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME EXPRESSION OF, OF WHY THE PERSON IS ASSAULTING OR MURDERING THE PERSON THAT THEY'RE ASSAULTING OR MURDERING.
SO I'M, YOU KNOW, YOU SO-AND-SO, SO-AND-SO, AND THEY WIND UP KILLING THEM OR ASSAULTING THEM.
SO WE DO, WE DO HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
SO WHAT ARE THE NUMBERS ON THAT? OR CAN YOU GIVE THAT TO US? CAN YOU GIVE US THOSE NUMBERS, UM, IN THE FUTURE BY EMAIL OR ANOTHER PRESENTATION? SURE.
AND, AND, AND TO MY, TO MY IMMEDIATE KNOWLEDGE, WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY HATE CRIME MURDERS, UH, THAT I CAN RECALL AT LEAST LAST YEAR.
I THINK, UH, I'D LIKE TO SEE THOSE NUMBERS.
I, I'LL SAY THAT WHEN WE, I LOOK AT THE STATISTICS THAT WE HEAR SO MUCH ABOUT ROAD RAGE IN INCIDENTS, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M AN ATTORNEY, SO I READ A LOT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DEALING WITH CAR ACCIDENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND, AND HERE, IF I SAW IT CORRECTLY, THERE WAS ONLY, NOT ONLY, BUT THERE WAS ONE INCIDENT THIS LAST YEAR, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, BETTER THAN A HUNDRED.
BUT, UM, OF COURSE WE'D LIKE TO SEE THAT BACK TO ZERO, BUT I THINK THE STATISTICS JUST KIND OF HELP PUT INTO PERSPECTIVE WHAT, WHAT YOU HEAR ABOUT THAT THERE'S THIS HORRIBLE ROAD RAGE.
AND, AND OFTENTIMES, I MEAN, IF, IF, IF OFTENTIMES WE'RE, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO FIND OUT WHO, YOU KNOW, DID THE SHOOTING, UM, JUST BECAUSE IF IT'S 1604 OR THREE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING AND THERE'S NO TAG NUMBER GOTTEN STUFF TO FIND OUT WHO DID IT.
SO WE DON'T REALLY, DON'T HAVE MUCH INFORMATION ON THAT.
BUT, UM, WE DO SEE ROAD RAGE HAPPENING FAIRLY FREQUENTLY, MAYBE JUST DOESN'T RESULT IN AN ARREST.
IS THAT WHAT'S HAPPENING? UH, WE DO MAKE ARRESTS, UH, IF WE GET A TAG NUMBER, WE'RE, UM, PRETTY LIKELY TO MAKE THAT ARREST, UH, AFTER SOME INVESTIGATION.
I GUESS THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
'CAUSE WE'RE SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT HOMICIDES.
THIS IS A ROAD RAGE, ROAD RAGE HOMICIDE.
AND THEN I'M, I'M SORT OF SHIFTING OVER TO THE INCIDENTS OF, UM, OF ROAD RAGE.
BUT GOING BACK, SO I WANNA BE CLEAR TOO, THAT THE, THE STATISTICS I'D LIKE TO SEE ARE NOT NECESSARILY RELATED JUST TO HOMICIDES, UM, HATE, HATE CRIMES OF RESULTING IN HOMICIDES, BUT JUST ANY STATISTIC AROUND IT.
WHAT, WHAT IS, WHAT'S THE PREVALENCE OF HATE CRIME IN OUR CITY? NOT JUST BASED ON, UH, SEXUAL ORIENTATION, BUT RACE, GENDER, ALL THE, ALL THE OTHER.
YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE PREVALENCE OF HATE CRIME IN, IN SAN ANTONIO IS, IS RATHER LOW.
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WHEN WE, WHEN WE READ ABOUT OR HEAR ABOUT SOMEONE DISTRIBUTING WHATEVER IT MAY BE, ANTISEMITIC, ANTI, ANTI-RACIAL, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, UH, THAT'S NOT A HATE CRIME.UM, BUT I MEAN, WE, WE DO BECOME VERY AWARE OF THAT AND VERY SENSITIVE TO WHAT MAY HAPPEN AS A RESULT OF THAT.
THOSE, THAT INFORMATION BEING DISTRIBUTED, THEY DON'T ALL RISE TO THE LEVEL OF A, LIKE A CHARGEABLE OFFENSE.
PARDON? THEY DON'T ALL RISE, THOSE INCIDENTS OF NO DISTRIBUTING A LITERATURE, THEY DON'T ALL RISE TO THE, UH, OF A LEVEL OF OFFENSE THAT YOU WOULD ARREST SOMEBODY OR A CRIME.
UM, I'M, I JUST HAVE SOME TECHNICAL QUESTIONS ON THAT NINTH SLIDE.
WHAT IS O I S OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING? AH, OKAY.
SO THERE WAS ONE LAST YEAR, ONE HOMICIDE LAST YEAR, IS THAT YES.
AND, AND IT WAS A, UM, UM, CHIEF EO AND ELABORATE, IT WAS A POLICE OFFICER WHO WAS INVOLVED IN AN OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING AND, UH, EARLIER.
AND, AND HE, AFTER HE SEPARATED, HE, HE DIED.
AND I BELIEVE THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE DECLARED THAT IT WAS RELATED TO THAT OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING FROM HER.
THIS OFFICER DAVID EVANS, EVANS WAS SHOT IN THE, UH, I THINK IT WAS THE DENNY'S SHOOTING.
WHEN IS THAT RIGHT? DENNY? YEAH.
THE DENNY'S SHOOTING WHEN THERE WERE THREE OR FOUR OFFICERS SHOT.
UH, AND, AND, UH, HE WAS SEVERELY INJURED, UH, BUT RECOVERED AND CONTINUED TO WORK.
BUT THE, THE INJURY FROM THAT GUNSHOT WOUND EVENTUALLY KILLED HIM AND IS COUNTED AS A MURDER IN THE YEAR THAT, THAT THE OFFICER DIED.
IT'S COUNTED IN THE YEAR THAT THE OFFICER DIED.
UM, ONTO SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT, UH, NOT QUITE AS DANGEROUS, BUT VERY PREVALENT IS THE PROPERTY CRIMES.
UM, AND THERE WAS AN INCREASE OF BY A 14% IT LOOKS LIKE.
UM, ARE WE, DO WE HAVE ANY SPECIFIC PLAN TO TARGET PROPERTY CRIME, ANY SPECIFIC TARGET PLAN PLAN TO TARGET PROPERTY CRIME? YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBER THERE, THEY'RE HAPPENING ALL OVER THE PLACE.
I MEAN, IF YOU, IF YOU LOOKED AT THE, THE CRIME MAPS, UM, ESPECIALLY LEADING UP TO CHRISTMAS, IF YOU LOOKED AT THE CRIME MAPS, UM, YOU, YOU'D PROBABLY TAKE A DEEP BREATH, UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE SO PREVALENT MM-HMM.
WE HAD A VEHICLE BURGLARY TASK FORCE.
AND I THINK, UM, CHIEF, THE COUNCILWOMAN WAS, UM, SPECIFICALLY ASKING IF THERE'S ANY INITIATIVES THAT WE HAVE, UM, ONGOING TO TRY TO ADDRESS PROPERTY CRIME, LIKE YOU MENTIONED THIS TASK FORCE.
AND ALSO, IF YOU WANNA A LITTLE BIT TALK ABOUT THE, THE VIOLENT CRIME REDUCTION PLAN, THAT ONE OF THE, THE IMPACTS THAT WILL HAVE WILL BE ALSO PROPERTY CRIME.
SO I THINK OUR, OUR BEST WEAPON AGAINST PROPERTY CRIMES IS EDUCATION.
UM, HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU SEE OR READ ABOUT PEOPLE GETTING GUNS STOLEN FROM THEIR CARS, PURSES STOLEN FROM THEIR CARS, COMPUTERS, WHATEVER IT MAY BE? UNLOCK CARS, RIGHT? YEAH.
I MEAN, AND, AND I, YOU KNOW, I I I'VE BEEN PREACHING THAT FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS.
DON'T LEAVE THINGS IN YOUR VEHICLE.
AND, UM, UM, IT, IT'S, I'LL TELL YOU A QUICK FUNNY STORY.
SO ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO, I WAS HAVING DINNER WITH, UH, CAPY LAWTON.
UH, HE AND HIS WIFE AND MY WIFE WERE AT HIS HOUSE.
HE INVITED US OVER FOR DINNER, WE'RE HAVING A VERY PLEASANT CONVERSATION, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN HIS FACE GOES FROM THIS TO THAT, AND HE SAYS, WHY CAN'T YOU STOP PEOPLE FROM BREAKING INTO MY CUSTOMER'S CARS IN MY PARKING LOT? AND I SAID, WHY CAN'T YOU STOP YOUR CUSTOMERS FROM LEAVING PROPERTY IN THEIR CARS WHERE IT CAN BE SEEN? AND WE LAUGHED AND MOVED ON FROM THERE.
BUT THAT, THAT, THAT'S AN ISSUE, UH, THAT CONTINUES TO HAPPEN.
I THINK EDUCATION IS OUR BEST WEAPON AGAINST YOU.
AND WHEN YOU SAY EDUCATION IS REALLY ABOUT PREVENTION, RIGHT? HAVING, MAKING SURE WE PREVENT THOSE KINDS OF CRIMES.
UM, BUT WE DO NEED TO LOOK AT THE OTHER SIDE OF IT.
THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT GONNA, THEY'RE GONNA LEAVE THEIR CARS UNLOCKED OR THEY'RE GONNA LEAVE THE GUN IN THE CAR.
UH, SO HOW WE ATTACK IT FROM THE OTHER SIDE IS IMPORTANT.
I JUST WANNA MAKE ONE MORE QUICK POINT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THESE NUMBERS ARE GOING DOWN, ESPECIALLY CRIMES AGAINST SOCIETY, UM, LOOKING AT GAMBLING AND PROSTITUTION, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
BUT THE NUMBERS THAT ARE GOING UP, I THINK ARE A LITTLE BIT, WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE FACT THAT OUR POPULATION HAS GROWN TOO.
SO WE HAVE, UM, THE SAME NUMBER OF OFFICERS THAT HAVE BEEN PROTECTING OUR CITY WITH A POP THIS POPULATION, AND NOW THE POPULATION'S INCREASED AND, AND THERE'S JUST MORE TO DO MORE.
UM, SO I, I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT POINT THAT THEY, THEY ALL, NOT ALL, NOT ALL THE NUMBERS LOOK GREAT, THEY'RE NOT ALL
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GOING DOWN.BUT, UM, WE DO HAVE A GROWING POPULATION.
AND I SAY THAT WITH GREAT SENSITIVITY BECAUSE MY DISTRICT IS GROWING, YOU KNOW, MY FAR WEST SIDE IN SAN ANTONIO IS BOOMING.
AND, AND I'D BE, I'D BELIEVE IN A BIG PART OUT OF THIS IF I DIDN'T MENTION IT, BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM IS NOT IN SYNC RIGHT NOW.
SO, UH, I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT WITHOUT GOING INTO DETAIL, BUT UNLESS THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE IS IN SYNC, IT IT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST GONNA SEE A REPEAT, A REPEAT OF THESE NUMBERS.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBER SIDNEY COMMENT.
SORRY, I WAS STRUGGLING TO GET MY MIC.
UM, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
I THINK IT'S A LOT OF, UH, REALLY IMPORTANT INFORMATION.
I THINK I'M GOING TO SPEND THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, UM, HOPEFULLY CHATTING WITH YOU ABOUT IT, CHATTING WITH MARIA.
UM, AND MY TEAM, THERE WAS A, A SLIDE, I FORGET WHICH ONE IT WAS, BUT IT STATES THAT THE RATE OF VIOLENT, AND YOU SAID IT, UM, THE RISK OF VICTIMIZATION IS LOW.
CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW WE DETERMINE THE RISK OF VICTIMIZATION AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS THE RISK LAST YEAR AND HOW DOES IT COMPARE TO OTHER CITIES? AND I GUESS WHAT I'M HOPING TO GET AT IS, IS IT, IS IT A QUANTIFIABLE RISK, LIKE NUMBER OF CRIMES PER, UH, POPULATION OR NU NUMBER OF VICTIMS PER POPULATION? I'M NOT SURE I HEARD EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAID.
UH, THE, THE FOUNDATION OF THE QUESTION IS HOW DO WE DETERMINE RATE, UM, RISK OF VICTIMIZATION TO SAY THAT IT'S LOW? AND HOW DO WE COMPARE TO OTHER CITIES? HOW DO WE COMPARE TO OURSELVES LAST YEAR IN TERMS OF THAT RISK OF VICTIMIZATION? AND THEN IS IT A QUANTIFIABLE FORMULA LIKE, UM, NUMBER OF CRIMES PER POPULATION, OR NUMBER OF VICTIMS PER POPULATION? SO I'M GONNA GIVE YOU AN ANSWER, I HOPE ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
SO IT, IT'S CRIME NUMBERS THAT ARE REPORTED BY THE F B I AND THE F B I HAS A, A BIG PAGE IN THEIR, IN THEIR U C R, ON THEIR U C R WEBSITE THAT, THAT CAUTION AGAINST COMPARING NUMBERS CITY TO CITY BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS COUNTED THE SAME WAY.
FOR EXAMPLE, IF, AND, AND, AND YOU COULD GOOGLE THIS AND WAY BACK FOR YEARS AND YEARS, AND YOU'D FIND EXAMPLES OF IT THAT IF, IF, SO IF, IF I POINT A GUN AT SOMEBODY, IT'S AN AGGRAVATED ASSAULT.
IF I PULL THE TRIGGER AND SHOOT SOMEONE THAT I POINT THE GUN AT AND I DON'T KILL THEM, THAT'S AN AGGRAVATED ASSAULT AS WELL.
SO THE EXAMPLE I'LL GIVE YOU IS THAT SOME CITIES WILL, WILL CALCULATE THAT DIFFERENTLY.
THEY'LL SAY, IF I POINT A GUN AT YOU, THEY'LL COUNT IT AS A SIMPLE ASSAULT, WHICH, WHICH WAS NOT COUNTED IN U C R NUMBERS AS A PART ONE CRIME.
AND, AND THAT'S DONE, THAT'S BEEN DONE IN A NUMBER OF CITIES.
A NUMBER OF CITIES HAVE, I WON'T SAY GOT CAUGHT, BUT WERE DISCOVERED NOT, NOT CLASSIFYING THE CRIMES CORRECTLY.
SO FOR IN, IN WASHINGTON DC FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU BREAK INTO A CAR AND DON'T STEAL ANYTHING, IT'S STILL A VEHICLE BURGLARY.
IF I BREAK INTO A CAR AND STEAL SOMETHING, IT'S STILL A VEHICLE BURGLARY, BUT IT, IT WOULD BE CLASSIFIED.
SO, SO THEY WOULD REDUCE THOSE NUMBERS BY, BY, EVEN IF SOMETHING WAS TAKEN TAKEN, THEY'D CALL IT TAMPERING WITH A VEHICLE.
AND, AND SO I'M NOT, I'M NOT PICKING ON WASHINGTON DC I'M JUST USING THAT AS AN EXAMPLE 'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE I CAME FROM.
BUT, BUT, UM, SO, SO THE NUMBERS ARE, THE CRITERIA FOR THE CRIME IS, IS SOMETIMES CALCULATED DIFFERENTLY.
SO IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE TO COMPARE CITY TO CITY US.
UM, JUST COMPARE SAN ANTONIO THIS YEAR, LAST YEAR, IS THE RISK OF STATE SAME AS LAST YEAR? OR IS IT GOING DOWN, IS WHAT THE SAME AS LAST YEAR? THE, UH, RISK OF VICTIMIZATION, THE RISK? MM-HMM.
I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, COUNCILMAN EACH YEAR, IF WE HAVE A BAD YEAR WITH, UH, WITH OUR CRIME NUMBERS, WE ALL HOPE THAT JANUARY 1ST, MAN, IT'S GONNA BE NEW YEAR, MAN, EVERYTHING'S GONNA GO DOWN.
'CAUSE EVERYTHING UP DOWN, IT'S GONNA GO DOWN.
SOMETIMES IT DOES, IT HAS IN THE PAST, BUT IT'S NOT HAPPENING DECEMBER 31ST, JANUARY 1ST, NOTHING CHANGES.
AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN BECAUSE THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, I BELIEVE IS NOT IN SYNC AT THE MOMENT.
COUNCILMAN AND I WILL ADD, I GUESS TO ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION DIRECTLY, I THINK WHAT THE, WHAT THE CHIEF IS TALKING ABOUT, THAT THE RISK OF VICTIMIZATION REMAINS LOW FOR THE AVERAGE, UH, RESIDENT.
AND THE REASON HE SAYS THAT IF WE CAN PROVIDE YOU WITH THE DATA, WE DON'T HAVE IT, UH, WITH US TODAY, IS THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, UH, VICTIMS OF VIOLENT CRIME, UH, THERE'S A HIGH PERCENTAGE OF THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN
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OTHER, UM, CRIMES OR IS, IS, IS THAT SAME, UH, POPULATION PERHAPS THAT ARE BEING, UH, VICTIMS OR PERPE PERPETRATORS AT THE SAME TIME.SO WE CAN PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION.
SO IN TERMS OF THE AVERAGE, UM, RESIDENT OR REMAINS LOW, WE CAN LOOK AT HOW THEIR CITIES, UM, UH, CALCULATE THAT.
UH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE WILL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU, BUT WE'LL GET THAT DATA FOR YOU IN TERMS OF HOW WE DETERMINE THAT THAT RISK REMAINS LOW FOR THE AVERAGE SAN ANTONIO RESIDENT.
THANK, I APPRECIATE COUNCIL MEMBER TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT, WHAT MARIA SAID ALMOST SEVEN MINUTES.
SO, SO JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT MARIA SAID.
SO, AND, AND THERE ARE CLEARLY EXCEPTIONS TO THIS, CLEARLY EXCEPTIONS TO THIS, BUT MANY, MANY, MANY TIMES THE VICTIMS OF VIOLENT CRIME HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN SOMETHING BEFORE.
AND SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER, THERE'S SOME CONNECTION TO THE PERPETRATOR OF THAT VIOLENT CRIME, WHETHER IT'S MONEY OWED, WHETHER IT'S A GANG RETALIATION, IT WAS, THERE'S SOMETHING THERE.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT RANDOM FOR THE MOST PART OR EXCEPTIONS, BUT FOR THE MOST PART IT'S NOT RANDOM.
UM, I GUESS MY SECOND ONE IS, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WAS ON SLIDE AND IT WAS ON ONE OF THE SLIDES.
WE HAVE NUMBERS FOR THE HOMICIDES RELATED TO ARGUMENTS.
UM, AND I'VE HEARD YOU, I'VE HEARD YOU ACTUALLY TALK TO, UM, CONSTITUENTS, UH, WHO ARE VERY CONCERNED.
AND IT'S ABOUT, UM, THE WAY THAT PEOPLE ARE HANDLING CONFLICT RIGHT NOW IS JUST, IT'S DIFFERENT, UM, THAN PREVIOUS AND IT'S GETTING WAY WORSE AND PEOPLE ARE RESORTING VIOLENCE.
AND I'M CURIOUS HOW WE CAN INCORPORATE METRO HEALTH'S EFFORTS ON, UM, VIOLENCE INTERRUPTERS AND WHETHER THAT PROGRAM HAS ENOUGH, UM, UH, RESOURCES IN THE PROGRAM CONSIDERING IT, I BELIEVE IT WAS THE HIGHEST CAUSE OF HOMICIDES.
AND SO PERHAPS LOOKING AT THIS DATA, WE CAN CONCLUDE THAT MAYBE WE NEED MORE VIOLENCE, UH, INTERRUPTER STAFF.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS MAYBE BEING DISCUSSED? UH, BUT I WOULD SUGGEST, UH, COUNCILMAN, WHEN WE COME BACK IN FEBRUARY AND WE PRESENT THE PLAN FROM METRO HEALTH AND S A P D ON HOW WE ARE GOING TO CREATE THE STRATEGIC PLAN FOR VIOLENCE PREVENTION, WE'LL HAVE A SPECIFIC, UH, SECTION OF THAT PRESENTATION TO TALK ABOUT VIOLENCE INTERRUPTERS AND GIVE YOU THE DATA AND TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION AS WELL.
I WAS ALSO, UM, WERE YOU GONNA, JUST, JUST TO, JUST TO ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ON, ON ON THE VIOLENCE PIECE THERE.
HAVE, THERE HAVE BEEN, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ARGUMENT RELATED OR ALTERCATIONS.
YOU'VE GOT BOYFRIENDS SHOOTING, EX-BOYFRIENDS, SHOOTING NEW BOYFRIENDS.
YOU'VE GOT SONS SHOOTING FATHERS, FATHERS SHOOTING, SONS GIRLFRIEND, EX-GIRLFRIENDS SHOOTING EX-BOYFRIENDS AT PERCEIVED SLIGHTS ARGUMENTS IN, IN, IN BARS, UH, ARGUMENTS AT, UM, BARBECUES WHERE FOLKS HAVE HAD MAYBE TOO MUCH TO DRINK AND, AND MUCH OF IT IS A SPONTANEOUS SPUR OF THE MOMENT TYPE SHOOTING.
UH, VERY DIFFICULT TO PREVENT BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW IT'S COMING.
UM, SO THERE ARE A LOT OF WHAT, THAT'S A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING.
BEFORE I TIME OUT ON THIS ONE, UM, I GUESS THAT'S, THAT'S A KEY PIECE OF THIS, RIGHT? IS THAT THERE'S THIS, UH, SOCIETAL AND CULTURAL CH SHIFT IN WHICH THERE'S ALL THIS CONFLICT AND PEOPLE ARE RESORTING TO GUN VIOLENCE.
AND I'M WONDERING, UH, WHAT ROLE ANY CITY DEPARTMENT IS GONNA HAVE IN ANSWERING THE QUESTION OF HOW WE CAN, 'CAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S, IT'S, UH, UNPR PREVENTABLE.
IT'S HARD IN THAT MOMENT IF, IF IT'S ALREADY HAPPENING.
BUT I THINK WE DO NEED TO, UM, START THINKING ABOUT HOW ARE WE GONNA CAUSE ANOTHER SHIFT? HOW DO WE START TO, UM, IMPLEMENT PROGRAMS AND CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR FOLK TO MAYBE LEARN BETTER CONFLICT RESOLUTION SKILLS? AND SO MAYBE YOU CAN ANSWER, WILL THAT BE A PART OF THIS, THE STRATEGIC PLAN, OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT CURRENT DEPARTMENTS ARE CURRENTLY LOOKING AT? THANK YOU.
SO COUPLE OF THINGS, COUNCILMAN.
UM, CURRENTLY WE HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH U T S A THAT IS LOOKING AT, UH, A LARGE NUMBER OF THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE DELIVERED BY ALL CITY DEPARTMENTS, PARKS, METRO HEALTH, HUMAN SERVICES, AND THEY'RE LOOKING, DOING RESEARCH TO SEE, THERE'S EVIDENCE-BASED, UM, STUDIES OUT THERE THAT INDICATE THAT PROGRAMS WITHIN THOSE DEPARTMENTS CONTRIBUTE TO THE REDUCTION IN CRIME.
SO THAT WORK SHOULD BE COMPLETED BY MARCH.
AND WE'LL BRING THE RESULTS HERE TO, TO THE COMMITTEE.
SO THAT'LL GIVE US AN INDICATION TO SAY, FOR INSTANCE, LET'S SAY FOR BUDGET PURPOSES, IF YOU WERE TO INVEST DOLLARS IN THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAMS, UH, THERE'S A EVIDENCE-BASED, UH, DATA THAT ACTUALLY REDUCES OR ADDRESSES CRIME.
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KNOW, JESSE, IF YOU WANTED TO ADD SOMETHING ELSE, BUT WHEN WE PRESENT THAT VIOLENCE PREVENTION, UM, UH, I'M SORRY, THE STRATEGIC PLAN PLAN FOR VIOLENCE PREVENTION AT THE NEXT MEETING, WE WILL ADDRESS IT SPECIFICALLY.WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO WITHIN THAT STRATEGY, UM, IS A THREE YEAR PROGRAM THAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO A THREE TO FIVE YEAR PROGRAM, UM, THAT ALL GUIDES SOME OF THE WORK THAT THE CITY AS A WHOLE IS DOING.
NOT JUST S A P D, BUT METRO HEALTH HUMAN SERVICES AND, AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
ANY OTHER COMMENT? COUNCILMAN? BRAVO.
HOW DO YOU CALL THAT? NEIGHBORS? WHAT DO WE WHAT? HOW NEIGHBORS.
UM, DO WE, IS THERE ENOUGH HISTORY THERE WITH THAT DATA FOR YOU TO, FOR, FOR US TO DRAW STRONG CONCLUSIONS? WELL, WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT ONE YEAR AGAINST, OR TWO YEARS AGAINST THE OTHER YEAR.
UM, BUT IS THAT ENOUGH HISTORY FOR US TO DRAW, DRAW STRONG CONCLUSIONS? NO, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT.
UM, BUT WE DID, WE DID KEEP THE U C R, DIDN'T WE KEEP THE U C R DATA, RIGHT? OF THE YES.
BUT NO, THE, THE, THE ONE YEAR OF NBRS COMPARISON IS, UH, IS NOT ENOUGH TO, UH, MAKE ANY KIND OF DETERMINATION ON WHICH WAY A CRIME IS GOING.
AND DO YOU HAVE STRONG CONCERNS? DO I HAVE STRONG CONCERNS? YEAH.
RIGHT NOW OF I HAVE STRONG CONCERNS ABOUT THE VIOLENCE.
BUT, BUT AS FAR AS A TREND TRENDS LIKE TREND, LIKE TRENDING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION, DO YOU HAVE STRONG CONCERNS ABOUT US VIOLENT CRIME TREND IN THE WRONG DIRECTION? IT'S BEEN TRENDING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION NATIONALLY FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS, YES.
UM, SO ARE YOU, ARE WE SEEING, DO YOU EVER TRACK LIKE, UM, TRACK CRIME, VIOLENT CRIME SEASONALLY? SO LIKE, ARE WE SEEING LIKE, HIGHER RATES OF VIOLENT CRIME IN THE SUMMER THAN WE ARE IN THE WINTER OR COOLER WEATHER? TYPICALLY? THERE'S A, THERE'S A SEASONAL TREND.
AND I, I COULDN'T TELL YOU WHAT IT IS OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, WHAT PERCENTAGE WISE IT IS.
BUT THERE IS A SEASONAL TREND AND IT'S, AND IT'S NOT JUST HERE, IT'S, IT'S EVERYWHERE.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE LOCAL NUMBERS IF WE CAN GET THOSE AT SOME POINT TO SEE WHAT, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
UM, YEAH, I GUESS I, UM, I WONDER ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT, FOR SOME OF THESE CRIMES, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT SMALLER NUMBERS, STATISTICALLY LIKE, YOU KNOW, JUST A SMALL INCREASE CAN LOOK LIKE A LARGE PERCENTAGE INCREASE.
UM, AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW FROM YOU, WHAT, WHAT AS COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN WE BE DOING TO HELP REDUCE CRIME IN OUR COMMUNITY? I NEED, I HEARD YOU TALK ABOUT EDUCATION, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE PEOPLE AREN'T KEEPING LEAVING A GUN IN THEIR CAR OR LEAVING VALUABLES IN THEIR CAR.
BUT WHAT MORE CAN WE DO AS COUNCIL MEMBERS TO EDUCATE OUR COMMUNITY OR TO EMPOWER THEM SO THAT WE CAN REDUCE CRIME FOR, FOR PEOPLE WHO AREN'T PARTICIPATING IN HIGH RISK BEHAVIOR? YOU KNOW, EVERY, EVERY COMMUNITY, UH, MEETING THAT WE GO TO, UH, WHETHER THERE'S A COUNCIL MEMBER THERE OR NOT, UM, SOMETIMES THERE'LL BE A CRIME RELATED ISSUE DISCUSSED.
THERE MAY BE A, IT MAY BE BECAUSE OF A RECENT SPIKE IN CAR BURGLARIES IN, IN, IN A NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, IT MAY BE BECAUSE OF GANG ACTIVITY OR, UH, PEOPLE GOING IN AND OUT OF A HOUSE THAT'S, THEY THINK IT'S EITHER PROSTITUTION OR DRUG RELATED.
AND WE TALK ABOUT WHAT TO DO ABOUT THAT.
IF, IF, IF WE RECEIVE A COMPLAINT AT A, AT A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, THAT COMPLAINT IMMEDIATELY GOES TO THE UNIT THAT WOULD INVESTIGATE IT.
AND ONCE THAT INVESTIGATION IS FINISHED, UM, OR EVEN ONCE IT'S ASSIGNED, WE WILL CALL BACK THAT COMPLAINANT TO LET THEM KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT THAT COMPLAINT, THIS IS WHAT WE DID WITH IT, AND WE'LL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU WHEN WE'VE GOT, WHEN WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S HOW WE DO IT AT THE COMM AT COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
AND AGAIN, WHETHER COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE THERE OR NOT, SOMETIMES A COUNCIL MEMBER MAY BRING IT UP, BUT, BUT, UH, WE ALWAYS HAVE SAFE OFFICERS THERE.
UH, SOMETIMES COMMAND STAFF, SOMETIMES MYSELF, AND WE'LL ALWAYS TAKE THOSE COMPLAINTS BACK, UM, ASSIGN THEM AND THEN FOLLOW UP WITH THE PERSON WHO MADE THE COMPLAINT.
AND YOU HAD A SLIDE HERE, UH, FOR YOUR NEAR, NEAR TERM STRATEGY ON MICRO HOTSPOTS POLICING.
SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, WHEN I GO INTO NEIGHBORHOODS, SOMETIMES THEY TELL ME ABOUT A PROBLEM HOUSE, UH, A DRUG HOUSE, A HOUSE WHERE THERE'S, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF SUSPECTED ILLEGAL ACTIVITY, WHETHER IT'S HUMAN TRAFFICKING, DRUG, UM, DRUG TRAFFICKING, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, SELLING WEAPONS.
AND IS THAT CONSIDERED, COULD A, COULD A MICRO HOTSPOT
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REFER TO JUST ONE PROBLEM HOUSE, OR IS IT A LARGER SCALE? NO, IT COULD, IT DEPENDS ON THE NUMBER OF TIMES THERE WAS A CALL MADE ON THAT PARTICULAR ADDRESS.THAT'S HOW WE DETERMINE WHERE A MICRO HOTSPOT WOULD BE.
YOU HAVE A FOLLOW UP? UH, COUNCILMAN ER.
UM, I'M ALSO WONDERING, UM, WHAT WERE THE FACTORS? THERE WAS SOMETHING, SOMETHING INTERESTING THAT I, THAT YOU POINTED OUT, UH, IN THE CRIMES AGAINST SOCIETY, THAT A NUMBER OF THEM HAD DECREASED, UH, FAIRLY SIGNIFICANTLY.
AND SO I'M WONDERING, WHAT WERE THE FACTORS THAT YOU THINK LED TO DECREASE, UM, IN SOME OF THE CRIMES SUCH AS GAMBLING AND PROSTITUTION? AND IS IT AN ACTUAL DECREASE IN THOSE CRIMES OR A DECREASE IN THE NUMBER OF CALLS? LIKE WHAT, WHAT DO YOU, WHAT'S YOUR MAKE OF THAT OR YOUR INTERPRETATION? THE, THE, UH, CRIMES AGAINST, UH, SOCIETY ARE BASED ON, UH, ARREST AND THE REPORT STATEMENT? YEAH.
SO, UH, IF, IF, UM, ARREST DROP REPORTS DROP, THEN OBVIOUSLY THE, THE NUMBERS THAT ARE REPORTED AND, AND A REPORT WILL DROP.
IT'S JUST INTERESTING TO ME TO SEE SUCH A SIGNIFICANT, UH, SHIFT.
UM, I'M ALSO WONDERING, I WROTE THIS DOWN BECAUSE YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT, UM, EDUCATION IS GONNA BE, UH, ONE OF THE STRONGEST SOLUTIONS TO PREVENTING PROPERTY CRIME, UM, LIKE THEFT.
AND SO I'M WONDERING, DO WE HAVE ANY SPECIFIC PROGRAMS THAT FOCUS SOLELY ON THIS TYPE OF EDUCATION? WE HAVE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT, UH, PROGRAMS THAT WE DO IN SCHOOLS.
WE HAVE OUR, UH, POLICE ATHLETIC LEAGUE, WE HAVE OUR MIDNIGHT BASKETBALL LEAGUE.
UH, WE HAD A BASEBALL, UH, CHAMPIONSHIP THIS, THIS SUMMER, UH, OR LAST SUMMER.
BUT WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF PROGRAMS THAT, UH, THAT THE DEPARTMENT, UH, PUTS OUT TO.
SO, SO A LOT OF THIS WE DO, COUNCIL MEN IS ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA.
AND SO WE DO, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF SPOTS, UM, REGARDING, UM, I THINK WE HAD P I O GO OUT TO ONE, ONE OF THE SHOPPING CENTERS, AND THEY, THEY WENT AROUND TO DIFFERENT CARS AND IT, WE PUT THIS OUT ON, ON ALL THE NEWS MEDIA, AND THEY LOOKED AND TO SEE IF THERE WERE CARS THAT WERE LEFT UNLOCKED, IF THEY SAW, UM, PHONES OR COMPUTERS OR VALUABLES LEFT ON SEATS.
AND SO, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE DID PROBABLY ABOUT 10 OR 12 CARS, AND EITHER YOU PASSED, YOU FAILED, WE LEFT A LITTLE NOTE FOR THE, FOR THE OWNER OF THE VEHICLE OR THAT KIND OF THING.
WE'RE DOING A LOT OF EDUCATIONAL SOCIAL MEDIA ABOUT DON'T LEAVE VALUABLES AND THAT SORT OF THING.
SO, SO WE DID A LOT OF SPOTS, PARTICULARLY AROUND THE HOLIDAY SEASON.
AND THEN WE'LL DO IT AGAIN AROUND THE SUMMERTIME WHEN WE KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF VISITORS IN TOWN.
WE FOCUS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF TOURISTS AND THAT SORT OF THING.
AND ALSO OUT AT THE AMUSEMENT PARKS AND SEAWORLD AND ALL THAT SORT SORT OF THING, WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF VEHICLE TRAFFIC, A LOT OF, A LOT OF, UM, FOLKS VISITING AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
BUT SOCIAL MEDIA IS WHERE WE GET A LOT OF, UH, ATTENTION EXTENSION OF THAT COUNCILMAN AS WELL AS WE REACH OUT TO LOCAL, LOCAL BUSINESSES.
UM, YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF YOUR HOTSPOTS, IF YOU WILL, WILL THE MALL, SEAWORLD FIESTA, TEXAS.
SO WE WORK WITH THEIR, UH, SECURITY THERE TO HELP THEM MAKE SURE THAT THEIR CAMERAS ARE ALIGNED PROPERLY, MAKE SURE THAT THEY'VE GOT COVERAGE LIGHTING.
OUR SAFE OFFICERS ALSO WILL GO OUT AND DO, UH, RISK ASSESSMENTS TO LOCAL BUSINESSES AND, AND EVEN HOMEOWNERS TO THAT WILL ALSO BE THAT, UH, COMMUNITY PREVENTION THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN.
SO AD LIGHTING HERE, PUT A LOCK, UH, IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS TO, THAT MAKES IT SORT OF TARGET HARDENING, TARGET HARDENING FOR THE, UH, RESIDENTS SO THAT THEY CAN ALSO, IT'S EDUCATION, BUT ALSO EMPOWERING THEM TO NOT ONLY HELP, UH, THEMSELVES, BUT ALSO THEY CAN TAKE THAT INFORMATION THEN HELP THEIR NEIGHBORS AS WELL.
UM, IF I MAY CLOSE OUT WITH THIS, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU ACKNOWLEDGED, THANK YOU.
UM, IN ACKNOWLEDGING THAT EDUCATION IS GONNA BE ONE OF THE GREATEST WAYS IN WHICH WE CAN PREVENT THESE CRIMES AGAINST PROPERTY, I'M WONDERING IF THERE MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY THERE FOR, UM, VARIOUS CAMPAIGNS OUTSIDE.
I APPRECIATE THE SOCIAL MEDIA EFFORTS.
I'M WONDERING IF THERE MIGHT ALSO BE OPPORTUNITIES, UM, FOR TV SPOTS, IF THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES FOR, UH, DIRECT MAIL AS MANY PEOPLE WHO CAN BE, UH, MADE AWARE OF WAYS IN WHICH THEY CAN PROTECT THEMSELVES AND THEIR PROPERTY, I THINK THE BETTER.
AND IF WE CAN SEE THOSE, UH, PROPERTY CRIMES GO DOWN, IT DOES FREE UP, IT DOES FREE UP OFFICER RESOURCES.
AND SO I THINK WE SHOULD SPEND A LOT OF, AT LEAST A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF EFFORT THERE, IDEALLY.
YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, BACK WHEN I WAS HAVING THAT LOVELY DINNER WITH CAPY LAWTON AND HIS WIFE, UM, THE CONVERSATION THAT WE GOT INTO WAS ABOUT VEHICLE BURGLARIES.
AND AS A RESULT OF THAT CONVERSATION, WE, WE FORMED A VEHICLE BURGLARY, UH, COMMITTEE, AND IT WAS MADE UP OF
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EIGHT OR 10, UM, BUSINESS LEADERS IN THE CITY.AND IF YOU REMEMBER, WAY BACK 15 YEARS AGO, UM, THERE WAS THAT, THEY WERE, THEY WERE ON BILLBOARDS, AND THEY WERE SMALLER SIGNS AND PARKING LOTS, AND HAD A LITTLE STICKMAN LEANING IN A CAR WITH S A P D COLORS.
AND IT SAID, LEAVE IT LOSE IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU, THEY'RE STILL AROUND, BUT THAT WAS, THAT WAS A RESULT OF, UH, A NUMBER OF MEETINGS WITH ALL THESE FROM U U T S A, UH, UM, WHAT'S THE BILLBOARD PLACE? UH, THE, THE BILLBOARD PEOPLE.
UM, AND REGRETTABLY, WE DIDN'T SEE ANY DECREASE AFTER, I MEAN, AND THAT WAS A MAJOR CAMPAIGN, CLEAR CHANNEL.
THEY PUT UP THESE BILLBOARDS FOR FREE FOR US, UH, ADVERTISING THAT PARKING LOTS ALL OVER DOWNTOWN, HAD THEM ON THEIR ENTRANCE.
AND AGAIN, UNFORTUNATELY IT DIDN'T DO ANYTHING.
COUNCILMAN MACU RODRIGUEZ, I'M A LITTLE BIT STUCK ON THE CRIMES OF SOCIETY, SO I'M GONNA ASK JUST A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS, CHIEF.
I THINK IT'S SIGNIFICANT THAT THOSE NUMBERS WENT DOWN.
SO NOW I STARTED, MY WHEELS STARTED TURNING, DO WE HAVE A DEDICATED UNIT THAT HANDLES, UM, THE COMPLAINTS AGAINST, UH, CRIMES AGAINST SOCIETY? LIKE VICE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT? WE, WE HAVE, WE HAVE A DEDICATED UNIT THAT WILL, THAT WILL FOLLOW UP ON, YOU KNOW, ANY TYPES OF COMPLAINTS.
WE HAVE OUR PROPERTY CRIMES DETECTIVES IN EACH ONE OF THE SUBSTATION.
UH, WE HAVE, WELL, OF COURSE, A C S WILL BE A LEAD ON, UH, CRUELTY TO ANIMALS.
UM, WE HAVE OUR WHITE COLLAR UNIT THAT HANDLES FINANCIAL STUFF.
UM, BUT YEAH, WE HAVE A FOLLOW-UP UNIT FOR PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING THAT, UH, FALLS UNDER THE CATEGORY OF CRIME AGAINST SOCIETY.
SO IT, BUT IS IT CENTRALIZED? NO.
OR, SO IT'S LIKE YOU MENTIONED, THEY'RE KIND OF DIFFERENT.
UM, SO WE USED TO HAVE A MORE CENTRALIZED UNIT, RIGHT? NO, MA'AM.
NOT, NOT FOR CRIMES AGAINST SOCIETY.
THERE'S INDIVIDUAL, EACH INDIVIDUAL CRIME, THERE'S A UNIT THAT WOULD FOLLOW UP ON THAT.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S NO CENTRALIZED UNIT THAT FOLLOWS UP ON A CRIME AGAINST SOCIETY.
I, I GUESS I THOUGHT VICE WAS THAT CENTRALIZED UNIT.
WELL, WELL, VICE FO FOLLOWS UP ON VICE RELATED CRIMES.
SO WE STILL HAVE A VICE UNIT, YES.
UM, WELL, WE STILL INVESTIGATE VICE RELATED.
WE, WE DID A REORGANIZATION OF OUR COVERT UNIT, BUT YES, WE STILL INVESTIGATE VICE.
SO IS THIS, DO WE HAVE THE SAME NUMBER OF OFFICERS THAT ARE, THAT ARE FOLLOWING UP ON CRIMES AGAINST SOCIETY THEN THAT THEN THAN WE DID WHEN WE HAD A VICE, A SPECIFIC VICE UNIT? YES.
WE HAVEN'T LOST ANY OF THOSE OFFICERS.
SO WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE BENEFIT TO NOT BEING DECENTRALIZED OR WHAT'S THE BENEFIT TO, FOR, FOR NOT JUST BEING IN VICE ANYMORE, FOR IT BEING KIND OF SPREAD OUT TO DIFFERENT? KAREN, YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THAT? THANK YOU.
S SO, SO WHAT WE HAVE NOW IS THE COVERT RESPONSE UNIT.
AND WE HAD UNDER COVERT, BEFORE WE REORGANIZED, WE HAD NARCOTICS, WE HAD VICE, WE HAD, UH, ROPE, WHICH WAS A REPEAT OFFENDERS PROGRAM.
AND THEY WERE ALL, UH, VERY SPECIFIC IN THEIR JOB DUTIES, LIKE NARCOTICS WORK, NARCOTICS VICE WORK VICE.
SO WHAT WE DID, AND, AND THEY ALL WORKED MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.
THERE WERE NO WEEKEND, UH, DETECTIVES.
AND SO WE, UH, REORGANIZED THE ENTIRE COVERT UNIT IS NOW COVERT RESPONSE UNIT.
WE REORGANIZED THEIR, THEIR DAYS OFF AND MADE A MORE GENERALIST DETECTIVES WHERE THEY ALL CAN, UH, UH, UH, INVESTIGATE ALL TYPES OF CRIMES.
THEY'RE ALL CAN INVESTIGATE NARCOTICS.
THEY CAN ALL INVESTIGATE VICE RELATED, UH, CRIMES.
UH, SO THEY ALL ARE, ARE VERY GENERALIST DETECTIVES.
SO THEY CAN ALL INVESTIGATE EVERYTHING.
SO OUR, OUR VICE UNIT, WE HAVE, UM, IT'S, IT'S NOW HUMAN EX, THE HUMAN EXPLOITATION DETAIL.
AND SO THAT IS NOW THE NEW VICE UNIT.
AND ALL OF THOSE CRIMES THAT YOU SEE UP THERE, GAMBLING, PORNOGRAPHY, PROSTITUTION, ALL WOULD FALL UNDERNEATH THE HUMAN EXPLOITATION UNIT NOW.
UH, BUT IT'S THE SAME NUMBER OF DETECTIVES WE JUST REORGANIZED OKAY.
GAVE THEM DAYS OFF THAT ARE CONDUCIVE, UH, TO, UH, WHEN THOSE TYPES OF CRIMES ARE, ARE HAPPENING, UH, TO INCLUDE THE WEEKENDS.
AND, UM, SO, SO IT'S THE SAME NUMBER OF DETECTIVES AND, AND ALL OF THAT.
SO I I, I'M GETTING AT, ULTIMATELY WHAT I'M WONDERING IS IF THESE, THESE NUMBERS THAT HAVE DROPPED, UM, ESPECIALLY IN THE REALM OF PROSTITUTION, PRETTY SIGNIFICANT SIGNIFICANTLY, IS THERE SOME OTHER FACTOR THAT'S ACCOUNTING FOR THAT DROP OTHER THAN IT'S JUST NOT
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HAPPENING ENOUGH? OR, OR NOT ENOUGH, IT'S NOT HAPPENING AS MUCH, OR IT'S, WE'RE NOT CATCHING THEM.I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT ACCOUNTS FOR THAT DROP THOSE DROPS? WELL, IF, IF, IF I COULD GO BACK TO WHAT THE CHIEF HAS SAID A COUPLE OF TIMES DURING HIS PRESENTATION, IS THAT OUR ENTIRE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM MM-HMM.
AND, UM, I, I THINK THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING SOMEBODY.
SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THAT THOSE CRIMES ARE NOT HAPPENING AS MUCH, NOT NECESSARILY.
UM, SO, SO WE'RE NOT GETTING AS, AS CALLED AS MUCH FOR THOSE PARTICULAR CRIMES.
UH, AND I REALLY THINK IT'S BECAUSE, UM, THE FACT THAT OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM IS NOT WORKING AS IT TYPICALLY HAS BEEN.
SO DO YOU GUYS HAVE, JUST FOR MY, I THINK OUR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES, DO YOU HAVE LIKE AN ORG CHART THAT WOULD SHOW ME ALL THE DIFFERENT UNITS WHERE THEY ARE, HOW MANY OFFICERS ARE ASSIGNED TO EACH UNIT? UM, DO WE HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT? WE DO.
DO YOU MIND SENDING THAT TO THIS COMMITTEE? AT LEAST I'M SURE THE, I'M SURE THE FULL COUNCIL WOULDN'T MIND THAT, BUT, UM, JUST TO GIMME SOME PERSPECTIVE ABOUT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? UM, OKAY.
SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR LAST ITEM, UM, BRIEFING ON LIGHTS ON PROGRAM IMPLEMENTATION IN SAN ANTONIO.
AND THIS, THIS IS THE ONE I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR.
UM, SO LAST YEAR WE ISSUED OVER 200 CITATIONS FOR DEFECTIVE VEHICLE LIGHTS.
AND THE LIGHTS ON PROGRAM WILL ALLOW POLICE OFFICERS TO, INSTEAD OF ISSUING A CITATION, TO ISSUE A VOUCHER FOR THEM TO GET THAT, THAT, UH, LIGHT HEADLAMP OR TAILLIGHT FIXED, UH, $20,000 AND VOUCHERS WILL BE DISTRIBUTED.
AND I WANT, LET ME TALK ABOUT THE BACKGROUND REAL QUICK.
SO, UH, I'M GONNA INVITE SHERMAN PATTERSON, UH, TO THE PODIUM, UH, TO TALK ABOUT LIGHTS ON.
HE'S THE C E O FOR, UM, MICRO GRANTS.
I THINK I GOT THAT RIGHT, SHERMAN.
UM, I WORKED, WORKED WITH SHERMAN WHEN I WAS IN MINNEAPOLIS, AND I THINK I MET SHERMAN, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, SHERM, UH, AT A COMMUNITY MEETING.
HE HAD JUST RETIRED FROM THE MILITARY.
AND WE MET AT A COMMUNITY MEETING AND BECAME VERY GOOD FRIENDS.
AND WE HAVE STAYED IN TOUCH TO THIS DAY.
UM, UH, SHERMAN WORKED WITH, UH, MAYOR RYBECK FOR, OR WORKED WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE FOR SIX YEARS, UH, WITH ME OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, UM, WORKING COMMUNITY EVENTS AND, UM, TALKING ABOUT COMMUNITY ISSUES.
AND WE WERE VERY, VERY CLOSE PARTNERS, UH, IN THAT EFFORT.
DON SAMUELS, WHO IS A, UH, WAS A FORMER MINNEAPOLIS COUNCIL MEMBER, WAS ALSO, UH, A VERY CLOSE WORKING COLLEAGUE OF MINE, UH, IN THESE COMMUNITY EFFORTS, UH, DON STARTED THIS MICROGRANTS PROGRAM, AND, UM, SHERMAN APPROACHED ME WITH IT, UH, GOSH, LAST YEAR SOMETIME.
UM, UH, IF WE DO THIS, WE WILL BE THE, NOT IF, WHEN WE DO THIS, WE'LL BE THE FIRST POLICE DEPARTMENT IN TEXAS, UH, THAT HAS UNDERTAKEN THIS.
AND THERE'S A NUMBER OF THEM AROUND THE COUNTRY, HAVE ALREADY DONE THAT.
UH, MADAM CHAIR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, DEPUTY CITY, UH, MANAGER.
FIRST OF ALL, IT'S GREAT TO BE BACK IN SAN ANTONIO, UH, MINNEAPOLIS, MINNESOTA COLD.
ALL I CAN SAY,
SO, JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND ABOUT THE, UH, LIGHTS ZONE PROGRAM, I AM SHERMAN PATTERSON.
I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE LIGHTS ZONE PROGRAM.
AND AT THIS CURRENT TIME, NOW, HE'S IN, UH, BLOOMINGTON, UH, ILLINOIS DOING THE PRESS CONFERENCE BECAUSE WE'RE LAUNCHED WITH THEM.
BUT JUST TO GIVE YOU A BACKGROUND ABOUT THE PROGRAM, UH, AS YOU KNOW, IN, UH, 2016, WE HAD A TRAGIC IN INCIDENT IN, UH, MINNESOTA, IN WHICH WE, WE HAVE BEEN THE, UH, EPICENTER OF, UH, A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON THAT'S NOT BEEN GOOD.
UH, PHILANDO, UH, CASTILE WAS KILLED.
UH, AND THAT HAPPENED THAT HAD, UH, THAT INCIDENT HAPPENED BECAUSE OF, UH, HE HAD A BLOWN TAILLIGHT, AND IT JUST WENT SOUTH FROM THERE.
SO, WITH THAT BEING SAID, DON, MY DON CAME UP WITH THE CONCEPT OF HOW CAN WE BRIDGE THE GAP? HOW CAN WE HEAL? 'CAUSE WE, WE NEED THAT.
PEOPLE WANT THAT BETWEEN LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THE COMMUNITY.
SO HE CAME UP WITH THIS, UH, THIS CONCEPT OF INSTEAD OF GIVING A TRAFFIC, UH, UH, A TRAFFIC TICKET, YOU'LL GET A VOUCHER.
AND WHAT THIS DOES FROM A THREE-PRONG PRONGED APPROACH IS THAT IT STARTS THE CONVERSATION WHEN THAT OFFICER COMES BACK TO THAT CAR, WHEN THAT THE ANXIETY IS UP BETWEEN THE OFFICER AND THE, AND THE MOTORIST.
HE COME, UH, THAT PERSON COMES BACK
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WITH THIS VOUCHER, AND THAT MOTORIST IS LIKE, WOW, THAT EVERYTHING COMES DOWN AND IS THE APPROACH WE'RE TAKING.AND THEN FROM A PUBLIC, UH, SAFETY STANDPOINT, A BLOWN HEADLIGHT OR TAILLIGHT OR TURN SIGNAL CAN CO, UH, CAUSE SEVERE DAMAGE OR EVEN DEATH IF THERE'S AN ACCIDENT.
AND THEN FROM A SOCIOECONOMIC STANDPOINT, YOU'LL SEE, I'LL GET, GET, UH, GET INTO, INTO THIS LATER WITH THE SLIDE.
AND SO WHAT IS MOVING FORWARD? UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
52% OF AMERICANS, UH, DO NOT HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THE POLICE.
AND THAT'S FROM A GALLUP POLL.
IN 2020, 20% OF PEOPLE INTERACT WITH THE POLICE HAVE A HOUSEHOLD INCOME OF 25 K OR LESS, WHILE MAKING UP OF, UH, WHILE MAKING, MAKING UP 13.7% OF THE POPULATION, U U UH, US DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.
53% OF DRIVERS INVOLVED IN TRAFFIC STOCKS STOPS ARE BLACK, WHILE MAKING UP 19.4% OF THE POPULATION.
US CENSUS BUREAU POSITIVE INTERACTIONS WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT RE TO, UH, RESTORE TRUST IN THAT COMMUNICATION.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE, THE DOWNWARD SPIRAL.
TICKETS INADVERTENTLY BECOME A POOR, A POOR TAX TICKETS, UH, ISSUE FOR, UH, THE BROKEN CAR LIGHT, INABILITY TO PAY FINES ON BROKEN CAR LIGHTS.
THE DRIVER CAN, UH, GET $175 TICKET, BUT IT CAN BECOME SURMOUNTABLE 'CAUSE THAT CAN LEAD TO UP TO $1,500 IN FINES BECAUSE THEY JUST CAN'T AFFORD IT.
INCREASED LAW ENFORCEMENT INTERACTION AND FINES.
THE POTENTIAL OF JAIL TIME AND REVOKE LICENSE.
AS I SAID, $175 CAN EQUAL $2,500 IN, UH, LATE FEE, LATE FIELDS, LATE FEES, EXCUSE ME.
BUT IT STOPS ONCE THAT WITH LIGHTS ON, IT STOPS.
AND ONCE THAT VEHICLE IS STOPPED, AND THAT OFFICER COMES BACK WITH THAT VOUCHER, AND WE'LL PAY UP TO $250, $250, THAT'S A WOW MOMENT.
INSTEAD OF TALKING AT EACH OTHER, THEY'RE TALKING WITH EACH OTHER.
THE ANXIETY GOES DOWN ON BOTH, BOTH PARTS.
AND AS I SAID, WE ARE ADDRESSING A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE AND ALSO A SOCIO ECONOMIC ISSUE.
HOW WE HEAL POLICE COMMUNITY RELATIONSHIPS.
A SIMPLE IDEA WITH A POWERFUL IMPACT, LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS GIVE A VOUCHER INSTEAD OF A TICKET.
DRIVERS REDEEM VOUCHERS THAT PARTICIPATE IN ORDER CENTERS, LIGHTS ON, COORDINATES ALL ADMINISTRATIONS.
AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, WE DON'T CHARGE ANY ADMINISTRATIVE, UH, COSTS.
WE TAKE THAT ONUS OFF OF DEPARTMENTS BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T, WE WANT THAT TRANSPARENCY AND THAT AUTHENTICNESS, WE WANNA MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
AND WE ARE BRINGING, UH, WE, WE ARE MEETING THEM HALFWAY, BUT THAT $20,000 LIGHTS ON IS DONE.
UH, WE ARE GIVING $10,000 A PART, UH, TO THAT.
AND, UH, H E B, THEY'RE GIVING THE OTHER 10,000.
SO NOTHING IS COMING FROM THE CITY.
LIGHTS ON TURNS, THE DREADED TRAFFIC STOPS INTO AN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE POSITIVE AND, UH, RESTORATIVE INTERACTION.
AND THAT'S PART OF THE HE PART OF THE HEALING PROCESS.
LAW ENFORCEMENT LESS, UH, LAW ENFORCEMENT BENEFITS, LESS LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.
STRESS LAW ENFORCEMENT BUILDS STRONG AND COMMUNITY BONDS.
A NEW APPROACH TO SOCIETAL PROBLEMS THAT VOUCHER RECIPIENTS BENEFITS.
POSITIVE PATH FOR LOW INCOME DRIVERS, RESTORATIVE INTERACTIONS WITH POLICE, SAFER CAUSE, FIXED AT NO COST FOR THE DRIVER.
COMMUNITY BENEFITS SAFER CAUSE ON THE ROAD.
LOCAL BUSINESSES AND AUTO SHOPS.
PROMOTIONS IMPROVE POLICE COMMUNITY RELATIONS, BETTER PRIORITIZE, UH, COMMUNITY RESOURCES.
AND I ALSO WANT TO ADD TO THIS, ONCE THAT MOTORS MOTORISTS RECEIVE THIS VOUCHER, THEY HAVE UP TO 14 DAYS TO USE THIS, BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO BE ACCOUNTABLE AND RESPONSIBLE ALSO.
SO WE'LL TAKE ABOUT CASE BY CASE, UH, A CASE BY CASE IF SOMEONE HAS IT 30 DAYS OR MAYBE 45 DAYS, WE UNDERSTAND THINGS HAPPEN, BUT YOU SHOULDN'T HOPE HAVE A VOUCHER FOR THREE, SIX MONTHS AND YOU GET STOPPED AGAIN.
THAT'S JUST NOT RIGHT BECAUSE YOU, YOU'RE GETTING THIS TO HELP THE PER IS HELPING THAT PERSON.
THAT MOTORIST IMPACTING THE NUMBERS.
REACHING THE MARGINALIZED COM IMMUNITY WITH POSITIVE INTERACTIONS.
UH, WE STARTED THE PROGRAM IN 2017, AND THIS IS EVEN DURING THE PANDEMIC.
WE HAVE REDEEMED OVER 7,000, UH, VOUCHERS.
WHEN THAT MOTORIST REDEEMED THIS VOUCHER, THEY, UH, THE TESTIMONIALS, THEY'RE REACHING PEOPLE INSIDE THEIR HOMES.
THEIR OFFICERS ARE REACHING THEIR PEERS, UH, THEIR FAMILIES.
YOU CAN MEASURE IT, IT'S IMPACTFUL.
99.2% OF THE VOUCHER RECIPIENTS
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WERE SATISFIED OR VERY SATISFIED WITH THE INTERACTION WITH THE OFFICERS WHO GAVE THEM THE LIGHTS ON VOUCHER.SO WHEN THAT PERSON, UH, GOES, UH, WHEN THEY'RE, UH, AT THE, UH, AUTO CENTER GETTING, UH, THEIR LIGHT FIXED, THERE'S A SURVEY THAT THEY TAKE AND THEY, UH, FROM, UH, THIS SURVEY, UH, THEY, THEY'RE ASKED ABOUT THEIR INTERACTION WITH THE OFFICER.
AND WE SHARE THIS WITH OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT PAR PARTNERS, BECAUSE THE LEADERSHIP, THEY WANT TO KNOW HOW, HOW WAS THE OUTCOME? HOW DID THIS, HOW WAS, UH, THIS RECEIVED BY THAT MOTORIST? SO WE, WE GIVE THEM THAT INFORMATION.
UH, ONE IN THREE VOUCHER RECIPIENTS HAVE HOUSEHOLD INCOMES BELOW $30,000.
UH, 38.4% OF THE VOUCHER RECIPIENTS, UH, IDENTIFIES BLACK INDIAN, UH, PEOPLE OF COLOR, COLOR BIPOD.
TO DATE, WE HAVE 141 LAW ENFORCEMENT PARTNERS ON BOARD 283 PARTICIPATING AUTO SHOPS.
UH, TO DATE, I'M CORRECTED BECAUSE I JUST, I CAME IN FROM, UH, BATON ROUGE STRAIGHT TO HERE.
WE JUST ONBOARDED, UH, BATON ROUGE AND EAST BATON ROUGE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE EAST BATON ROUGE SHERIFF DEPARTMENT, AND THE BATON ROUGE, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT.
WE DID A PRESS, I DID A PRESS CONFERENCE WITH THE MAYOR AND, UH, THEIR LEADERSHIP.
AND MY BOSS, UH, DON SAMUELS, AS I SAID, IS IN BLOOMINGTON, ILLINOIS RIGHT NOW, CURRENTLY DOING A PRESS CONFERENCE WITH THEM.
THEN YOU, AS YOU CAN SEE, 21% OF THE VOUCHER RECIPIENTS WOULD'VE BEEN, UH, UNLIKELY, A VERY UNLIKELY TO FIX THEIR LIGHTS WITHOUT THE VOUCHER.
THIS MOTHER OF THREE, SHE HAD GOT INTO A CAR ACCIDENT.
SHE GOT STOPPED BECAUSE OF A BLOWN HAIRLIGHT.
SHE WAS SCARED, BUT SHE GOT A VO VOUCHER INSTEAD.
AND THEN IT, SHE WAS JUST SO GRATEFUL ABOUT, ABOUT, ABOUT RECEIVING THAT VOUCHER, A VOUCHER WITH THAT VOUCHER.
AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, PREVIOUS CHIEF OF MADERA ARRADONDO FROM THE MINNEAPOLIS POLICE DEPARTMENT, HE TALKS ABOUT THE, UH, THE IMPORTANCE OF THE VOUCHER, HOW IT MAKES IT, UH, A DIFFERENCE IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS WITH TRUST AND, UH, LEGITIMACY, UH, WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS AND THE COMMUNITY.
COMMUNITIES ARE AT A TIPPING POINT.
LIGHTS ON HELPS US STARTS THE DIALOGUE AND TO RESTORE TRUST.
HERE WE SEE THE MAP IN THE YELLOW.
YOU CAN SEE THE, UH, STATES THAT WE ARE IN.
WE ARE IN THOSE DEPARTMENTS IN THE PURPLE.
WE ARE WORKING, UH, IN THE DARKER COLORS.
WE ARE WORKING THESE, THOSE STATES.
AND, UH, WE ARE IN 17, WELL, NOW WE ARE IN 19 STATES BECAUSE BLOOMINGTON AND BATON ROUGE, THAT'S COME ON BOARD.
AND AS CHIEF SAID, UH, WHEN, UH, SAN ANTONIO COMES ON BOARD, YOU GUYS WILL BE THE FIRST, THE FIRST IN TEXAS.
AND, UH, AS I GO DOWN HERE, YOU CAN SEE, UH, AS I'M LOOKING AT MY LIST, UH, JACKSON, JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA, THE SHERIFF DEPARTMENT STARTED IN NOVEMBER, 2021.
CHATTANOOGA, TENNESSEE STARTED IN, UH, OCTOBER 20, UH, 21.
AND SHOCK SHAE, MINNESOTA STARTED IN 2019.
AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW ABOUT MINNESOTA, WE ARE 90% OF OUR POPULATION THERE.
WE'RE 90% OF THE, OF MINNESOTA.
WE FUND ALL OF MINNESOTA, BUT WE CAN'T FUND THE ENTIRE US.
WE, UH, WE'RE MEETING, UH, OUR OUTSTATE PARTNERS HALFWAY.
SO OUR KEY PARTNERS AND DONORS, WE HAVE TARGET, THE MINNESOTA VIKINGS.
I MET WITH BOB KRAFT FROM, UH, MR. KRAFT FROM THE, UH, NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS.
AND, UH, THEY'RE SPONSORING THE NEW BEDFORD POLICE.
THEY'VE SPONSORED THE NEW BEDFORD POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE JACKSONVILLE JA, UH, JAGUARS.
UH, THEY'RE SPONSORING THE JACKSONVILLE SHERIFF DEPARTMENT.
UH, WE HAVE THOMPSON AND REUTERS.
UH, THEY'RE CORPORATE, UH, ENTITY IN MINNESOTA.
AND ALSO THE JOYCE FOUNDATION IS A HUGE FOUNDATION FROM THE STATE OF ILLINOIS.
AND I JUST GOT AN EMAIL, UH, YESTERDAY.
THAT SAN DIEGO PROJECT IS JUST COMMITTED TO, UH, UH, PARTNERING WITH US.
AND, UH, WE'RE WORKING, GONNA BE WORKING WITH THE SAN DIEGO POLICE DEPARTMENT.
UH, THEN ALSO, I WANNA SHARE WITH YOU, THE, UH, WAS CONTACTED BY THE, WE'RE IN MARYLAND AT THE UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND ALSO WITH, UH, TWO OTHER, UH, LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENTS IN MARYLAND.
I WAS CONTACTED BY THE LEGISLATOR THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO SEE HOW THEY CAN FUND THE WHOLE STATE OF, UH, MARYLAND WITH LIGHTS ON.
SO THIS IS HOW POWERFUL THIS IS.
UH, WE'VE BEEN MOVING WITH THIS HERE.
AND AGAIN, I WANNA SAY THAT WE ARE VERY SIMPLE.
WE WANNA KEEP IT SIMPLE AND VERY TRANSPARENT.
AND THAT'S OUR BRAND AND CHIEF, I THANK YOU.
SO THESE VOUCHERS WILL BE OFFERED IN, IN, UH, SOUTHEAST AND THE WEST SERVICE AREAS.
UM, WE WILL IDENTIFY THE REPAIR SHOPS THAT WILL PARTICIPATE, UH, IN THESE TARGET AREAS.
AND, UH, WE WILL SECURE THE AGREEMENT WITH, UH, THE ORDER REPAIR CENTERS BY MARCH OF THIS YEAR.
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OF THAT PRESENTATION.THIS IS, UM, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION, SIR.
UH, IT'S, UH, I THINK AN INNOVATIVE STEP FORWARD AND A GOOD WAY TO GET.
UM, I, I UNDERSTAND THE, THE COMMUNITY RELATIONSHIP, AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT, AND I'M GLAD THAT POLICE ARE WORKING ON THAT AND ON IMPROVING THAT RELATIONSHIP.
BUT I THINK, UM, THE DAY TO DAY FOR A PERSON WHO HAS, I THINK THAT THAT TESTIMONIAL FROM THAT, THAT WOMAN WHO SAID, UM, YOU KNOW, SHE HAD THIS KIND OF OLD CAR, AND, UM, SHE MAY NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO AFFORD A TICKET.
I THINK THE DAY TO DAY HOW THIS COULD AFFECT THE AVERAGE SAN ANTONIO CAN BE VERY IMPACTFUL.
SO I'M, I'M THANKFUL FOR THAT.
I AM CURIOUS ABOUT SPONSORSHIPS.
IS THERE A WAY, UM, IF THERE'S BUSINESS THAT WANT TO GIVE TO THIS PROGRAM, CAN WE, HOW CAN WE HELP THAT HAPPEN? COUNCIL MEMBER H E V GAVE US $10,000.
IS THERE A WAY, IF THERE'S ANOTHER BUSINESS THAT WANTS TO, WELL, THERE, THERE, WE'VE, I'VE SOLICITED SOME OTHER FOLKS, UH, AS WELL AND DIDN'T HAVE AS MUCH LUCK.
UH, SO IF WE HAVE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITIES, UM, BUSINESSES THAT WANNA PARTICIPATE, CAN, DO WE SEND THEM TO YOU OR DO WE SEND THEM TO DIRECTLY TO THE PROGRAM? UH, I, I MEAN, I, I'M NOT SURE.
I GUESS YOU COULD SEND 'EM DIRECTLY TO, UH, SHERMAN, OR YOU CAN SEND, UH, YOU CAN SEND 'EM, UH, TO, UH, ME.
ALSO, YOU HAVE OUR LIGHTS ON, UH, LIGHTS ON LIGHTS LYON.ORG.
'CAUSE WE CHANGE, IT SHOULD GO TO OUR WEBSITE.
SO YOU CAN, UH, THEY CAN CONTACT EITHER ME OKAY.
AND THEN, UH, YOU CAN GO TO LYON.DOT ORG.
WE, UH, JUST GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
WE HAD ONE ANONYMOUS DONOR GIVE US A MILLION DOLLARS.
I'M NOT GONNA PROMISE THAT WHAT'S HAPPEN, BUT I'M GONNA TRY TO HELP YOU OUT.
UM, I'M CURIOUS, CAN THE MO GO AHEAD, CHIEF.
YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T, I'M NOT, I MIGHT HAVE MISSED IT, BUT MICROGRANTS, UH, MATCHES WHATEVER.
OH, THE DONOR GIVES, SO WE'RE WORKING WITH 20,000 RIGHT NOW.
AS OPPOSED TO THE 10 THAT ADDED ONTO THE 10 THAT H E B GAVE US.
OR GAVE THEM, AND THAT WOULD GO FOR ANY, IF THERE WAS A NEW SPONSOR COMING IN, GIVING YOU 5,000, THEN THEY WOULD AMAZING.
SO, JUST CURIOUS, IS THERE A, CAN A MOTORIST TAKE THEIR VEHICLE IF THEY RECEIVE ONE OF THESE VOUCHERS TO ANY AUTO SHOP? OR DOES, DOES IT HAVE TO BE A DESIGNATED THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'LL BE CERTAIN DESIGNATED SHOPS AND, AND, UM, SHERMAN'S FOLKS HAVE ALREADY BEEN IN TOWN, UH, SURVEYING THE, THE AUTO SHOPS THAT OKAY.
MIGHT WANNA PARTICIPATE IN THIS.
I, I'M CURIOUS TO, TO SEE WHO, WHERE THEY ARE.
I'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE THE SMALL BUSINESSES, NOT JUST THE BIG KIND OF CHAINS.
SO WE ARE NOT BIASED TOWARDS, UH, OKAY.
YOU KNOW, WE DO THE MOM AND POP SHOP GREAT.
AND, UH, WE, WE, UH, DID THE SHOPS DO A AGREEMENT WITH US.
SO AGAIN, THE ONUS HAS TAKEN OFF THE POLICE MM-HMM.
WE, UH, TRY TO, UH, GET THEM PAID WITHIN SEVEN DAYS.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO WAIT 30, 60, OR 90 DAYS.
SO WE'VE BEEN DOWN, UH, WE'LL COME DOWN AGAIN AND, UH, AND UH, REACH OUT BECAUSE WE WANT, WE WANT THESE SHOPS TO PARTICIPATE AND, YOU KNOW, AND WE ARE, AND THEY'RE BEING PAID FOR THEIR, THEIR PARTICIPATION.
AND ALSO WHAT THEY'RE FINDING OUT IS THAT, UH, ONCE THE MOTORIST COMES TO THE SHOP, UH, THEIR BUSINESS IS EVEN GOING UP MORE BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW WHAT, BECAUSE OF, UH, YEAH.
UH, THE PARTICIPATION FOR THE MOMENT.
UM, I'M JUST, REAL QUICKLY, I THINK JUDGE ODO IS IN THE AUDIENCE.
HI, CAN YOU JUST REAL QUICK, 'CAUSE I'M THINKING ABOUT THE EFFECT OF THE COURTS, UM, ON THE COURTS AND HOW THIS MIGHT HELP.
CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT JUST VERY BRIEFLY? YES, GOOD MORNING.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY DOES GET A TRAFFIC VIOLATION FOR, FOR HAVING A DEFECTIVE HEADLIGHT, UM MM-HMM.
UM, IF THEY'RE INDIGENT AND THEY, YOU KNOW, TELL US THAT THEY'RE HAVING A HARD TIME EVEN PAYING THE $10, A LOT OF TIMES WE WILL WAIVE THAT FEE AS WELL.
I THINK THAT THIS WILL GO A LONG WAY TO BUILDING PUBLIC TRUST WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND, AND, AND I THINK ALSO WITH THE COURTS AS WELL.
SO MAYBE IF WE CAN GET SOME INFORMATION AND PASS THAT ALONG TO, TO ANY CONSTITUENTS THAT COME INTO THE COURT THAT HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED THE CITATIONS, I'D LIKE TO PASS ALONG THAT INFORMATION AS WELL.
UM, COUNCILMAN MICKI RODRIGUEZ.
UM, I THINK DURING THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETINGS, I HAVE THE, THE LEAST OPPORTUNITIES TO SMILE AND TO SAY I AM EXCITED.
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IS A FANTASTIC PROGRAM.I'M SUPER EXCITED TO, UM, TO SEE THIS AND TO SEE THIS THROUGH THE IMPLEMENTATION.
I THINK IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY.
I THINK WE SHOULD, UM, I THINK IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO ALSO LOOK AT OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR PROGRAMS LIKE THIS.
'CAUSE THIS IS, I WOULDN'T HAVE THOUGHT OF THIS, BUT MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE OR MAYBE SOME OF SOME OF US SHOULD HAVE A LITTLE BIT AGO.
UM, I'M WONDERING, IS THERE A WAY THAT RESIDENTS COULD ACCESS THE PROGRAM WITHOUT THE NEED TO INTERACT, UM, WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT AT ALL? AND I KNOW THAT IT CAN BE STRESSFUL DRIVING WITH A BROKEN, UH, A BROKEN TAIL LIGHT WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE MONEY TO ADDRESS IT.
SO IS THERE SOME OTHER WAY THAT, UM, FOLK MIGHT BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE VOUCHER, EVEN IF IT IS, IS THERE ANY WAY AT ALL THAT YOU CAN THINK OF? I MEAN, I'M SURE WE COULD PROBABLY COME UP WITH SOMETHING, BUT I THINK THAT I, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD, I THINK I'D RATHER HAVE IT IN ITS PURE FORM WHERE AN OFFICER SPOTS SOMEONE WITH THE VIOLATION.
AND, AND, UH, I MEAN, BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY OF, I THINK I'D RATHER LEAVE IT IN ITS PURE FORM.
AND I, AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT, THAT, THAT THERE, THERE'S, IF, IF, IF I WERE ON PATROL AND I SAW SOMEONE WITH THEIR TAILLIGHT OUT THERE WAS, THERE WOULD BE NOTHING THAT WOULD GIVE ME MORE PLEASURE THAN TO WALK UP AND HAND SOMEONE A VOUCHER WHO THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE GONNA BE GETTING IN TROUBLE FOR THE, FOR THE LAID OUT.
SO I, I THINK IT'S A BENEFIT FOR THE OFFICERS AS WELL.
I UNDERSTAND THE, I UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, THAT DESIRE, I HOPE THAT THERE'S SOME WAY TO, UM, INSPIRE AN ALTERNATIVE THAT MIGHT ALSO ACHIEVE THE GOAL OF REPAIRING, UH, MENDING POLICE COMMUNITY RELATIONS, UM, WHILE ALSO MINIMIZING THAT FEAR OF SOME, YOU KNOW, THAT EXPERIENCE OF AN OFFICER DRIVING MIND WITH OUR LIGHTS ON.
I ALSO WONDER, UM, HOW CAN YOU ENSURE THAT EVERY OFFICER WILL PARTICIPATE AND THAT THEY WON'T PICK AND CHOOSE? YOU KNOW, THIS PERSON IS GIVING ME AN ATTITUDE, SO I'M NOT GONNA GO BACK AND GIVE THEM THE $250 VOUCHER.
COUNCILMAN, I'M, UH, JUST A COMMENT ON YOUR FIRST QUESTION ABOUT IF THE OTHER MEANS, IF WE'VE BEEN APPROACHED ABOUT THAT.
BUT THE PURPOSE AND THE CONCEPT WHEN DON CAME UP WITH THIS IS ABOUT THAT INTERACTION THAT WHEN THE CAR STOPPED, 'CAUSE YOU HAVE THAT, THAT POSITIVE INTERACTION.
BECAUSE IF WE'VE BEEN APPROACHED, CAN YOU JUST MAIL THE MAIL THE, UH, VOUCHER TO THEM, THEN THAT'S DEFEATING THE PURPOSE.
YOU, THEY GET A VOUCHER OR THEY, IF THEY CAN COME BY THE, UH, PRECINCT AND GET A VOUCHER AND WELL, WHERE'S MY VOUCHER? CAN I GET THIS VOUCHER? YOU GIVE IT, GIVE IT TO THEM, AND THEY'RE ON THEIR WAY.
THERE'S REALLY, YOU WANT THAT POSITIVE IN INTERACTION WITH THAT RELATIONSHIP BUILDING.
YOU WANT THAT HEALING AND THAT THAT CONVERSATION STOPS.
WE ARE, WE ARE LOOKING AT GETTING, UH, WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE VIDEOS OF TESTIMONIALS WHERE PEOPLE ARE TAKING PICTURES WITH THE OFFICERS AND SAYING, WOW, THEY'RE HAVING THAT WOW EFFECT.
BUT BECAUSE OF, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE CAN'T GET THE VIDEOS.
THE MOTORISTS ARE VERY EXCITED.
OUR TESTIMONIALS IN THE, IN THE SURVEYS, IT'S, IT'S JUST OFF THE CHAIN, 99.2%.
WHERE DO YOU GET THAT FROM? THAT'S UNHEARD OF.
WE, WE, WE LOOKED AT THAT, BUT, UH, IT WOULD KIND OF BE DETRIMENTAL.
IT, IT'S, IT WOULDN'T, WOULDN'T HAVE THE FULL EFFECT TO MAX.
WE ARE MAXIMIZING THAT TO HAVE THAT INTERACTION THERE.
I GUESS WHAT I WOULD CHALLENGE OR THE IDEA THAT I WOULD HOPE TO CONVEY OR QUESTION THAT I WOULD HOPE TO POSE IS, IS THE PURPOSE OF THE PROGRAM TO, UM, PREVENT AN INDIVIDUAL WHO MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO REPAIR THEIR TAILLIGHT, GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY NOT TO BE SUBJECT TO THAT, OR IS THE GOAL TO MANUFACTURE A SORT OF COMMUNITY, UH, UH, POLICE RELATIONSHIP.
AND I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, DO BOTH.
BUT I THINK THAT, UM, I, I WOULD HOPE THAT MAYBE WE CAN THINK ABOUT SOME ADDITION TO THE PROGRAM THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO, UH, CREATE THAT REAL, THAT REAL SENSE WITHOUT CREATING I, SOMETHING IS NOT ALLOWING ME TO SHAKE THAT FEELING OF FEAR WHEN AN OFFICER IS BEHIND YOU AND YOU'D, EVEN THOUGH IT'S GOING TO BE, UH, SOMEWHAT MENDED WHEN THEY HAND YOU THE $250 VOUCHER, YOU STILL HAD THAT FEAR.
YOU'RE, WE'RE STILL SUBJECTING PEOPLE TO THAT, UM, EXPERIENCE.
AND SO WHILE I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS AND I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND, I DO WANT US TO THINK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT.
AND THEN THE SECOND PART OF THE, THE SECOND PART OF THE QUESTION WAS, HOW DO WE ENSURE EVERY OFFICER IS PARTICIPATING AND CUSTOMER, I I THINK THAT EVERY OFFICER ON PATROL WILL BE EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROGRAM.
AND WE CAN BE, I MEAN, IT'S GONNA BE A, A DIRECTIVE THAT THIS IS WHAT THE PROGRAM IS.
SO, UH, THAT PLUS AGAIN, EVERY OFFICER ON OUT ON PATROL, I, I, I MIGHT START PULLING PEOPLE OVER
I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S THE IMPACT I THINK IT'LL HAVE ON THE OFFICERS AS WELL.
WELL, I GUESS WHAT, WE'LL, I GUESS, SO THEN THE ANSWER TO MY QUESTIONS THAT WE
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REALLY WON'T, IT SOUNDS LIKE MOST OFFICERS WILL PARTICIPATE IF THERE ARE ANY THAT DON'T WE'LL KNOW BY THE END OF THE, WE'LL KNOW WHEN WE START SEEING WHICH, UH, UH, WHO'S GETTING CI CITED.AND COUNCILMAN, I THINK I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION AND WE CAN, UH, REPORT ON THE PROGRESS AS THE USE ON THE PROGRAM IMPLEMENTATION.
WE'RE TARGETING SOUTHEASTERN WEST SERVICE AREAS.
SO THE OTHER AREAS MAY, MAY EXPERIENCE A CITATION OR A TICKET.
UM, BUT OUR GOAL IS TO FOCUS ON THOSE HIGH EQUITY AREAS OF OUR CITY TO PROVIDE THIS VOUCHER TO.
UM, AND WE'LL BE HAPPY TO REPORT THE RESULTS, UH, IN, IN THE FIRST LIGHT OF THE PRESENTATION, UH, LAST YEAR, THE DEPARTMENT ISSUED 234 CITATIONS.
SO WE CAN MEASURE THE VOUCHERS THAT WE'VE ISSUED, THE CITATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ISSUED TO DIRECTLY ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION WITH DATA.
I GUESS THE LAST BIT OF MY QUESTION, AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING UP THE AMOUNT IN THE EAST, WEST, AND SOUTH SIDE.
'CAUSE I WAS ORIGINALLY DOING THE MATH AND IT WAS ABOUT, UM, SO THERE ARE 234 CITATIONS LAST YEAR, AND EACH VALUE AT EACH VOUCHER IS $250.
AND SO I'M WONDERING IF, I GUESS WHAT I'M THINKING RIGHT NOW, IT COMES TOP OF MIND IS THAT WHEN WE HAVE A BUDGET THAT IS AS LARGE AS THE POLICE BUDGET AND WE'RE LOOKING AT A DIFFERENCE OF $20,000, I'M WONDERING IF THERE MIGHT BE SOME OPPORTUNITY TO SHIFT FUNDS WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT, OR IF YOU'RE COMING BACK WITH A, AN INCREASE, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WHERE EVERY CITATION RECEIVE INSTEAD OF ANY CITATIONS? EVERYBODY GETS A VOUCHER.
AND I THINK THAT IS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE THAT'S UNIQUE.
I'M GONNA DEFER THAT MONEY QUESTION TO, TO MY BOSS.
UM, COUNCILMAN? UH, THE ANSWER IS YES.
I MEAN, AS WE MONITOR THE, THE PROGRAM, IF WE RUN OUTTA MONEY AND WE'RE, YOU KNOW, NINE MONTHS INTO THE FISCAL YEAR AND WE REPORT BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE, WE COULD RECOMMEND, UM, REALLOCATING FUNDS WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO CONTINUE THE PROGRAM FOR THE BALANCE OF THE FISCAL YEAR.
ALTHOUGH, I WILL SAY ONE OF THE THINGS THE CHIEF HAS MENTIONED IS THAT HE'S TRYING TO LOOK FOR SPONSORS, ADDITIONAL SPONSORS IN ADDITION TO H E B.
AND WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL THAT THEY CONTRIBUTED $10,000 TO THIS PROGRAM.
AND THE DEPARTMENT WILL CONTINUE TO SEEK ADDITIONAL SPONSORS AS WELL.
I'M, I'M HOPING THAT THE MEDIA WILL HIGHLIGHT THIS ON TV AND MAYBE WE'LL GET SOME CALLS FOR, FROM ADDITIONAL SPONSORS AS WELL.
UM, MR. PATTERSON, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS PROGRAM TO SAN ANTONIO.
THIS IS, YOU KNOW, I'M, I ABSOLUTELY WELCOME THIS AND I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR YOU ALL HAVING INITIATED THE PROGRAM AND, AND SHARED IT, SHARING IT WITH US.
UM, I THINK, I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S, UH, THREE WINS HERE.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, UM, ONE IS WE'RE GONNA IMPROVE POLICE, GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO IMPROVE POLICE COMMUNITY RELATIONS.
UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IT CAN PREVENT ESCALATION OF WHAT COULD HAVE OTHERWISE JUST BEEN A MINOR, UH, CITATION.
UH, BUT ALSO I DON'T WANT US TO BE CONTRIBUTING TO THE CYCLE OF POVERTY WHERE SOMEBODY COULDN'T AFFORD THAT LIGHT AND NOW THEY'VE GOT AN ADDITIONAL FINE ON TOP OF THAT THAT COULD LEAD TO OTHER, OTHER CHALLENGES.
UM, I DO HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I GUESS HOW IT'S RUN.
AND I'M WONDERING, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA HAND 'EM A PAPER VOUCHER, IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH.
I BROUGHT THE, UH, THE VOUCHER THAT LEFT IT IN MY CAR.
IT'S NOT, SO IT'S A, IT'S A BOOKLET, A 10, UH, 10 VOUCHERS IN EACH BOOKLET.
AND WHAT HAPPENS IS A CHIEF WILL, WILL DEEM A, WHEN HE LOOKS AT IT, HOW MANY OFFICERS WOULD, HOW MANY VOUCHERS THEY WOULD HAVE THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S UP TO THE LEADERSHIP HERE ABOUT, AND I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S ANY FUTURE PLANS TO GO TO A DIGITAL PLATFORM WHERE SOMEBODY COULD HAVE IT THEN.
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAND ME A COUPON, I COULD LOSE THAT.
AND, UH, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE 14 DAYS, BUT THEN IF I'VE GOT, IF YOU TEXTED IT TO ME, I'VE GOT IT RIGHT THERE.
I CAN GO BACK TO IT, PULL IT UP.
UM, SO IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT AN OPPORTUNITY, AN OPPORTUNITY.
UM, THE OTHER THING IS, YOU KNOW, I SEE THE $250 LEVEL AND IT'S UP TO $250 AND I WONDER, YOU KNOW, I MEAN I'M, I'M THE TYPE OF PERSON WHO JUST SWAPS IT OUT MYSELF AND GO TO AUTOZONE, RIGHT? AND THAT MIGHT COST $10 OR $15.
UM, AND I'M JUST WONDERING HOW, HOW THAT WOULD PLAY OUT THERE.
I I ALSO AM UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT A LOT OF THOSE, UH, PARTS STORES WILL SWAP IT OUT FOR YOU, AND THAT SOMETIMES IT COULD BE JUST A FIVE MINUTE JOB.
AND SO IF YOU PURCHASE A LIGHT BULB FROM THEM, SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, THEY WILL SWAP IT OUT FOR YOU FOR FREE.
RIGHT THERE, WE, UH, THE VOUCHER, UH, HAVE, HOW, HOW IT WORKS IS THEY'LL GO TO THE AUTO CENTER AND THEY'LL PRESENT THEM THE VOUCHER AND THEY, THEY'LL, UH, THEY'LL REPLACE IT.
UH, YOU, YOU CAN'T JUST DO IT YOURSELF, YOU KNOW, AND THEN SWAP IT OUT.
NO, IT HAS TO, RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO THE AUTO CENTER
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TO A SERVICE CENTER.AND, UH, AND GIVE THEM THE VOUCHER.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE ON BOARD WITH US, A SERVICE CENTERS THAT'S ON BOARD WITH LIGHTS ON, AND THEY'LL, THEY GIVE THEM THE VOUCHER AND THEY'LL, UH, SWITCH THE LIGHT OUT.
THE AVERAGE COST OF A BULB RIGHT NOW, UH, THE LIGHT TO BE REPLACED IS $120.
THEY SAY THAT WE, WE, WE, UH, OUR TEAM DID THE SURVEY AND IT'S $120, BUT ABOVE COULD COST FROM $8 JUST ABOVE.
BUT WITH THE, THE NEWER CARS AND, UH, THE CARS, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO TAKE OFF THE BUMPER, THE HALLIGAN LIGHTS.
SO WE CAME UP WITH A THRESHOLD OF $250.
ANYTHING AFTER THE 250 IS, UH, UPON THE MOTORIST, BUT USUALLY IT DOESN'T, IF WE PROBABLY HAD MAYBE THREE OR FOUR THAT'S BEEN OVER $250 AND WE APPROVE THAT.
AND I, I'M JUST WONDERING, YOU KNOW, WITH $20,000, IF YOU WERE ALLOWED TO ALLOW SOMEONE TO JUST PURCHASE THE BULB AND SWAP IT OUT, IF IT'S A FIVE, FOR MOST PEOPLE, IT'S A FIVE MINUTE JOB, UH, THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE TOOLS, THEN COULD THAT 20,000 COVER ALL 234 CITATIONS THAT WE GIVE OUT IN A YEAR WITHOUT HAVING TO GO AND FIND MORE SPONSORSHIP OR, OR PULL MONEY FROM SOME OTHER PORTION OF THE POLICE BUDGET? IF I'M, I'M, I'M FOLLOWING YOU.
IS THAT NO, THE MOTORIST CAN'T SWAP OUT THIS, AND BUT WHAT, WHAT'S PREVENTING THAT? THAT'S, THAT, THAT, I MEAN, IF YOU GAVE ME A VOUCHER AND I WENT TO AUTOZONE IN FIVE MINUTES, I'D HAVE A NEW LIGHT BULB IN MY CAR AND IT'D BE DONE AND IT'D BE $10.
BUT WHAT I'M, I'M SAYING, WHAT I'M SAYING TO YOU IS IF THAT SERVICE PROVIDER IS ON BOARD WITH US, WE, WE WENT THROUGH THIS SERVICE PROVIDER AND THEY SWITCH OUT THAT BULB, UH, THEY GET THE VOUCHER.
IF AUTO, IF AUTOZONE WAS ON BOARD AND THEY WENT THERE WITH THAT VOUCHER AND AUTOZONE REPLACED THE BULB OR, UH, BUT AUTOZONE DOESN'T, THEY, UH, IF I'M CORRECT, AUTOZONE IS NOT, NOT A FULL SERVICE CENTER.
THEY HAVE TO BE A FULL SERVICE CENTER.
BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY WILL, YOU KNOW, IF YOU PURCHASE YOUR WINDSHIELD WIPER BLADES FOR FROM THEM, THEY'LL SWAP THEM OUT FOR YOU.
OR IF YOU PULL, PURCHASE A LIGHT BULB FOR, IN MOST CASES, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO REMOVE THE BUMPER OR SOMETHING, THE SERVICE ATTEND, THE, THE SALES PERSON THERE WILL SWAP IT OUT FOR YOU.
SO I'M JUST, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS PREVENTING US FROM MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION SO THAT WE CAN STRETCH THESE DOLLARS FURTHER.
WHAT I'LL DO IS GIVE YOU CLARITY ON THAT QUESTION.
I'M GONNA TAKE IT BACK TO MY BOSS AND WE'LL, THAT WORKS.
WE'LL HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH ABOUT THAT.
I, I THINK THAT THAT HELPS US ALL.
I'M NOT TRYING TO, NO, I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.
I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND OUT HOW CAN WE STRETCH THESE DOLLARS BE MORE EFFICIENT.
SO THAT'S THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'LL HAVE ALONG WITH THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, SUGGESTION ALSO.
AND THEN CHIEF MCMANUS, UH, SO WE GAVE OUT 234 CITATIONS LAST, LAST YEAR FOR, UH, A LIGHT BEAN OUT.
WAS THAT, DOES THAT INCLUDE WARNINGS OR IS THAT JUST, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY PAY A FINE CITATION CITATIONS? SO THERE WERE WARNINGS ON TOP OF THAT? NO, NO.
WELL, WELL IT COULD BE, YEAH, IT COULD BE CITED A WARNING OR CITED A FINE.
IT'S THE, THE, THE ONE, THE 2 34 WERE CITATIONS AND I DON'T, I'M NOT SURE THE NUMBER OF WARNINGS I MAY HAVE GIVEN OUT, BUT, SO IT'S, SO THEN THAT, SO IT'S 234 CITATIONS DOES NOT INCLUDE WARNINGS.
OKAY, SO THEN THERE COULD BE SEVERAL HUNDRED MORE WARNINGS, RIGHT? SO THERE MIGHT BE A NEED FOR 500 VOUCHERS PER YEAR.
OR SO, SO, SO OUR OPPORTUNITIES ARE, WE EITHER GOTTA GO FIND MORE FUNDING BECAUSE THIS IS, THIS IS A HUGE OPPORTUNITY, RIGHT.
FOR ALL THREE REASONS OF POLICE COMMUNITY RELATIONS, UH, ENDING THE CYCLE OF POVERTY AND UM, YOU KNOW, PREVENTING SITUATIONS FROM ESCALATING.
BUT OUR CHOICES ARE GO FIND MORE FUNDING OR MAYBE FIND A WAY TO MAKE IT MORE COST EFFECTIVE.
SO CAN'T WAIT TO HEAR BACK FROM YOU MR. PATTERSON.
BUT I'M, EITHER WAY, I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROGRAM.
THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.
ANY OTHER COMMENT? OKAY, WELL THANKS AGAIN FOR THE PRESENTATION AND THAT, UM, WITH THAT CONCLUDES OUR FIRST MEETING OF THE YEAR.
I NEGLECTED TO SAY HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM.
UM, WE HAD A PRETTY PRODUCTIVE MEETING.
I'M GRATEFUL FOR Y'ALL'S PARTICIPATION.
UM, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THE WORK WITH Y'ALL NEXT WEEK, NEXT TIME.
MADAM CHAIR, MAY I JUST CORRECT EARLIER OH YES.
OPINION THAT I GAVE WAS THAT THE CHAIR COULD NOT A MOTION OR SECOND.
AND SO I WANTED TO CORRECT THAT.
IT IS OUR PRACTICE, UM, FOR BOTH COMMITTEES AND THE FULL COUNCIL TO ALLOW THE CHAIR TO MOTION AND SECOND.
SO I WANTED TO BE SURE TO CORRECT THAT.
SO I DIDN'T LEAVE THE COMMITTEE WITH A MISIMPRESSION.
THANK YOU FOR THAT CORRECTION.