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GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
UM, IF BEFORE WE BEGIN, IF WE COULD HAVE OUR SPANISH TRANSLATIONS SERVICES STATEMENT, GOOD AFTERNOON.
UM, LET'S SEE BEFORE WE BEGIN.
WE DON'T HAVE MASK AVAILABLE ANYMORE, I DON'T BELIEVE, BUT UH, WE DO.
OH, IF YOU WOULD LIKE A MASK, WE DO HAVE SOME OVER THERE IN THE, ON THE SIDE.
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MY NAME IS ROB S SIPES AND I AM THE CHAIR OF THE ZONING COMMISSIONER OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT SEVEN ZONING COMMISSIONER.I HEREBY CALL THIS REGULARLY SCHEDULED NOTICE MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION INTO SESSION.
I'D LIKE TO FIRST DO A ROLL CALL BY ALLOWING THE ZONING COMMISSIONERS TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, BEGINNING WITH THE COMMISSIONER ON MY FAR LEFT, THAT WOULD BE ME, I GUESS FAR LEFT.
UH, MARCO VARDOS, DISTRICT NINE, MARK WHITE, DISTRICT 10.
TAYLOR WATSON DISTRICT SUMMER GRADE HOUSE DISTRICT ONE.
WOULD EVERYONE PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE UNITED STATES AMERICA.
THE REPUBLIC REPUBLIC STANDS ONE NATION IN WITH LIBERTY AND NO JUSTICE CR PRIOR TO COMMENCING OUR HEARING, I WOULD LIKE OUR STAFF TO REVIEW OUR MEETING FORMAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE STAFF IF YOU COULD PROCEED.
BEFORE I BEGIN, PLEASE TURN YOUR PHONES ON VIBRATE OR TURN THEM OFF.
THE ZONING COMMISSION IS AN 11 MEMBER BODY APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ZONING CASES UPON RECEIVING A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION, YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO FORWARD YOUR CASE TO CITY COUNCIL.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PROCEDURE, PLEASE CONTACT YOUR CASE MANAGER.
STAFF WILL BEGIN EACH CASE WITH A SHORT PRESENTATION OF THE REQUEST.
PART OF THE PRESENTATION INCLUDES A MAP THAT SHOWS THE AREA TO BE CONSIDERED FOR REZONING AND PROPERTY WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT.
PROPERTY CHECK MARKS INDICATE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND AN X INDICATES THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN OPPOSITION.
FOLLOWING THE PRESENTATION AND ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION, THE APPLICANT WILL PRESENT THEIR REQUEST FOR THOSE THAT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE PROPOSED REZONING.
YOU WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THAT YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
THOSE IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER AND YOU'RE NOT OBLIGATED TO UTILIZE THE MAXIMUM TIME LIMITATION.
YOU WILL BE INFORMED THAT THE THREE MINUTES ARE UP.
FOR THOSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEIR TIME TO A SPEAKER, THAT SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO PEOPLE GIVING THEIR TIME FOR A TOTAL OF NINE MINUTES.
THOSE GIVING UP THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AND SIGNED IN TO SPEAK.
THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL LIMITED TO ONE SPEAKER WITH A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT ALONG WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSION QUESTIONS.
UM, STAFF IF WE COULD GO OVER OUR WITHDRAWN OR POSTPONED ITEMS. FIRST FOR POSTPONEMENT WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER ONE, ZONING CASE 3 4 1 LOCATED AT FOUR 10 PROBAND AND THEN ITEM NUMBER SIX, UH, ZONING CASE 3, 2 4.
LOCATED AT, GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE 600 BLOCK OF RICHLAND HILLS DRIVE.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU ARE HERE FOR THOSE FOR THE PROPERTIES AT FOUR 10 PRO PROBAND OR UH, 600 BLOCK OF RICHLAND HILLS DRIVE, UM, YOU ARE FREE TO LEAVE BECAUSE WE WILL NOT BE HEARING THOSE CASES TODAY AND YOU WILL BE RE NOTIFIED IF, UH, ANY FUTURE ACTION OCCURS ON THOSE PROPERTIES.
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OR WELL IF WE COULD GO OVER THE LIST OF ITEMS ON THE COMBINED AGENDA, JUST WHAT ITEMS WE HAVE ON THERE.FIRST ITEMS FOR, UH, COMBINED AGENDA
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WE HAVE ITEMS NUMBER SEVEN, NUMBER EIGHT, NUMBER NINE, NUMBER 10, NUMBER 11, NUMBER 12, NUMBER 13, NUMBER 15, NUMBER 16, NUMBER 17, NUMBER 18 AND NUMBER 19.ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER'S.
ANY OF THESE ITEMS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO PULL AND I'D JUST LIKE TO ADD THAT ON ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, YOU JUST RECEIVED A COPY OF THE LATEST SITE PLAN.
SO THAT ONE IS GOING, IF IT STAYS ON CONSENT, WILL BE, UM, RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL WITH THE AMENDED SITE PLAN.
ALRIGHT, SO SEEING NONE FOR ITEMS TO BE PULLED.
UM, AND UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A NOTE THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER BUSANTE ENTERED THE MEETING AT ONE 12.
UM, SO IF WE COULD PLEASE READ THE COMBINED HEARING NUMBER ONE AGENDA INTO THE RECORD FOR ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX AND C THREE TO C TWO WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE 6,500 BLOCK OF CAMP BULLIS ROAD.
CROWN RIDGE OF TEXAS H O A IS IN SUPPORT WITH CONDITIONS AND NO RESPONSE FROM FRIENDS OF SAN ANTONIO NATURAL AREAS.
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS A REQUEST IN CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO I D Z ONE HL WITH USES PERMITTED FOR FOOD SERVICE ESTABLISHMENT, ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT THREE 12 WEST COURTLAND PLACE WITH AN AMENDED SITE PLAN.
NINE NOTICES IN FA OR NINE NOTICES SENT ONE IN FAVOR, SIX OPPOSED.
UH, TOBIN HILL COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR AND OUTSIDE 200 FEET.
THERE ARE THREE IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED.
ITEM NUMBER NINE IS A REQUEST AND CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FOUR TO RMM FOUR LOCATED OR WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 10 46 EAST SHAVANO.
25 NOTICES SENT ONE IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND NO RESPONSE FROM VIA CORONADO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 10, UH, REQUEST REQUESTING CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FOUR TO NC WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 2 0 7 FERRIS AVENUE.
ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND NO RESPONSE FROM THE COLISEUM WILLOW PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 11 IS A REQUEST IN CHANGE IN ZONING FROM MR TO MF 33 WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 82 19 LINDBERGH LANDING.
ONE IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 12 IS A REQUEST AND CHANGE IN ZONING FROM I ONE TWO L ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 87 90 CROWN HILL BOULEVARD.
ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 13 IS A REQUEST FOR CHANGE IN ZONING FROM RE AND C TWO TO MF 25 LOCATED AT 5 9 9 4 WHITBY ROAD.
NOTICES WERE SENT ONE IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED.
AND ALAMO FARMSTEADS BABCOCK ROAD NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT.
ITEM NUMBER 15 IS A REQUEST AND CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C TWO AND R FOUR TO C TWO CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR CAR WASH WITH ALL OVERLAYS.
TWO REMAIN THE SAME, GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE 5,000 BLOCK OF ROOSEVELT AVENUE.
NOTICES WERE SENT ONE IN FAVOR.
ZERO OPPOSED NO OBJECTION FROM THE VIA CORONADO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND LOMA MESA RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY IS OPPOSED.
ITEM NUMBER 16 IS A REQUEST AND CHANGE IN ZONING FROM MF 33 AND MP EIGHT TWO L WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE 11,100 BLOCK OF WEST MILITARY DRIVE.
ONE IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED AND NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 17 IS A REQUEST FOR CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FOUR TWO RMM FOUR WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
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LOCATED AT 42 51 CLARK AVENUE.AND HIGHLAND HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT.
ITEM NUMBER 18 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM M I ONE TO I ONE WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 93 42 SOUTHEAST LOOP.
ZERO OPPOSED AND NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM OH TWO TO R FOUR WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 1722 MONTEREY STREET.
ONE OPPOSED IN HISTORIC WEST A RE SORRY.
IN HISTORIC WEST RESIDENCE ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR.
WE HAVE SOME VOICEMAILS AND ALSO, UH, ONE PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEM THE LAST ITEM.
I LIVE AT 1805 MONTEREY STREET.
I'M ONE THAT OPPOSES NOT REALLY KNOWING WHAT TYPE OF BUSINESS OR WHY THEY WANNA CHANGE THE ZONING.
UM, WE CAN HAVE A STAFF MEMBER TALK TO HER, SIR.
YEAH, IF WE COULD GET A, WE'LL GET A STAFF MEMBER TO TALK TO YOU OUT.
MS. GOMEZ, JUST, JUST TO BE CLEAR THOUGH, THIS IS GOING FROM AN OFFICE USE TO A RESIDENTIAL USE.
SO THE BUILDING APPEARS TO HAVE PREVIOUSLY BEEN USED AS AN AS A RESIDENCE.
AND IT'S GOING BACK TO BEING USED AS A HOME.
WE WILL HAVE STAFF COME AND, AND ADDRESS THAT WITH YOU.
THANKS COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE
LADIES, CAN WE PLAY THE VOICEMAILS PLEASE? MY NAME IS FREDERICA KUSHNER.
I LIVE AT FOUR ZERO FIVE EAST MYRTLE STREET.
MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 223-2814.
I'M SPEAKING FOR THE TOBIN HILL COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION CONCERNING ITEM NUMBER 8 3 1 12 3 12 WEST CORTLAND PLACE, ALSO KNOWN AS THE HUGHES HOUSE HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED AS HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT BY THE HISTORIC AND DESIGN REVIEW COMMISSION OF THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
IT MET SEVERAL CRITERIA FOR SIGNIFICANCE INCLUDING ITS ARCHITECTURE, HISTORY, AND CONTRIBUTION TO THE CULTURE AND SOCIAL FABRIC OF THE CITY.
WITHOUT HISTORIC PRESERVATION, AN OWNER MAY DUE TO THE HOUSE, WHATEVER HE OR SHE FEELS IS SUITABLE AT ANY TIME.
THE PRESENT OWNER HAS EXPRESSED ADMIRATION FOR THE ARCHITECTURE AND STATE OF PRESERVATION OF THE HUGHES HOUSE, BUT OWNERSHIP CHANGES OVER TIME.
AND WHO'S TO SAY WHAT MAY HAPPEN 10 OR 20 YEARS FROM NOW.
WITH THIS IN MIND, THE TOBIN HILL COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION SUPPORTS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST FOR A ZONING CHANGE TO I D Z ONE ONLY IF THE ZONING COMMISSION ALSO APPROVES THE REQUEST FOR HISTORIC LANDMARKING OF THE HUGHES HOUSE.
WE THANK ZONING STAFF FOR THEIR WORK ON THIS REQUEST AND WE THANK THE ZONING COMMISSION FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION OF THIS STATEMENT.
RE, REGARDING CASE 0 3 2 6 10 46 EAST CHANO, MY NAME ISGA MARTINEZ WITH THE VEHICLE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION 1522 SANDRA FAYED TWO TEN THREE NINE THREE SIX NINE FOUR FOUR WE'RE ASKING FOR A CONTINUANCE FOR A CHANCE TO MEET AND GET CLARIFICATION FROM THE APPLICANT ON THE ZONING REQUEST, THE ZONING REQUEST RESIDENTIAL MIX.
WHAT IS THE PLAN? SO MY EMAIL IS OM THIRTEEN@AOL.COM.
THE APPLICANT CAN EMAIL ME SO WE CAN GET TOGETHER OR YOU CAN SEND ME INFORMATION SO WE CAN KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
THIS IS REGARDING CASE NUMBER 3 4 6 5,000 ROOSEVELT, ACTUALLY 50 19 ROOSEVELT AVENUE.
MS. YOUNG PROVIDED THE EXACT ADDRESS.
I'M PRESENT AT VEHICLE NEIGHBORHOOD
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ASSOCIATION 1522 SANTA FA.TWO TEN THREE NINE THREE SIX NINE FOUR FOUR.
THE ASSOCIATION HAS NO PROBLEM WITH THE ZONING REQUEST OF CONDITIONAL USE FOR A CAR WASH.
THE LOMA MESA NEIGHBORHOOD AUTO ZONE AND OTHER CAR WASH ARE ALL LOCATED IN THE SAME AREA.
A TRAFFIC LIGHT IS VERY MUCH NEEDED.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND HAVE A GREAT DAY.
THAT'S ALL THE VOICEMAILS WE HAVE, SIR.
AND THERE'S NO OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, SO IS THERE A MOTION FROM A COMMISSIONER, MR. CHAIR? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, NUMBER EIGHT WITH AN AMENDED SITE PLAN.
THERE IS A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM SEVEN EIGHT WITH THE MINUTES SITE PLAN.
9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 15, 16, 17, 18, AND 19 WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARTOS, I BELIEVE.
UM, ANY DISCUSSION? LOOKING TO MY LEFT.
COULD WE HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.
UH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU WERE HERE FOR ANY OF THOSE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, THOSE ITEMS WILL NOW BE PROCEEDING TO CITY COUNCIL.
SO THANK YOU AND ENJOY THE REST OF THE, I THINK WE'RE GETTING RAIN OUTSIDE, BUT ENJOY THE REST OF THE DAY.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE NO CONTINUANCE ITEMS, IT BELIEVES, I BELIEVE SO.
WE WILL BE PROCEEDING TO INDIVIDUAL HEARING FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO.
ELIZABETH SEWARD ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER TWO IS GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 20,000 BLOCK OF NORTH US HIGHWAY 2 81, GOING FROM C THREE TO C THREE SS WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR WIRELESS COMMUNICATION SYSTEMS WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO STAY THE SAME.
THERE WERE EIGHT NOTICES IN DOUBT.
ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR AND ZERO IN OPPOSITION.
AND THERE IS NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
THE EXISTING C THREE GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED C THREE SS WITH SPECIFIC USE FOR WIRELESS COMMUNICATION SYSTEM IS ALSO AN APPROPRIATE USE.
AND THE SMALL PAD ALLOWS A WIRELESS COMMUNICATION CELL PHONE TOWER.
THE PROPOSED C THREE SS MAINTAINS THE EXISTING BASE ZONING DISTRICT, UM, SORRY.
UM, AND THE C THREE S ALLOWS CONSIDERATION OF A WIRELESS COMMUNICATION SYSTEM, WHICH IS RESTRICTED TO PRESCRIBED SITE PLAN.
STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
STAFF AND SAWS RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT.
WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT AN AMENDED SITE PLAN.
THIS IS AN E R Z D CASE, SO IF WE COULD HAVE SAWS PRESENTATION PLEASE.
MIKE ESCALANTE SAWS A AQUIFER PROTECTION AND EVALUATION SECTION.
WE REVIEWED THE ZONING APPLICATION LOCATED NEAR THE SOUTHEAST INTERSECTION OF US HIGHWAY 2 81 NORTH AND ENCINO RIO, ALLOWING FOR A TELECOMMUNICATION TOWER PAD SITE ON POINT, UH, 0 9 1 ACRES.
THE PAD SITE IS UNDEVELOPED WITH SOME EXISTING ASPHALT ON SITE.
NO SENSITIVE FEATURES ON SITE.
UH, SAWS RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH ALL ENVIRONMENTAL RECOMMENDATIONS WITHIN THE REPORT TO INCLUDE 55% PREVIOUS COVER FOR THE 0.091 ACRE SITE.
IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT COME FORWARD AND TELL US ABOUT THE REQUEST.
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UH, VINCE INGER WITH VINCENT GERARD REPRESENTING THE OWNERS AND, UH, CROWN CASTLE.I'VE GOT A REAL QUICK POWERPOINT.
SHE'S ALREADY GOT IT UP FOR ME.
UM, GO TO THE FIRST SLIDE PLEASE.
WE'VE GOT A DEVELOPER, AN OWNER ACROSS THE STREET WHO'S BUYING OUT THOSE LONG-TERM LEASES FOR AT AND T AND T-MOBILE.
THEY GIVE US ABOUT A YEAR TO GET A NEW ONE ON SITE.
WE HAVE TO GET ONE BUILT ON AIR AND THEN DECOM THE OTHER TWO SITES.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THE OPPOSITION, UH, UNDERSTOOD THAT THEY MAY HAVE SEEN SOME OTHER TOWERS IN THE AIR AND SAID, WHY DO WE NEED A THIRD? BUT THIS IS A RELOCATION FOR, FOR THOSE NEXT PLEASE.
UM, C THREE, UH, AS YOU KNOW, E R Z D IS WHY WE'RE HERE FOR THE SS U P.
OTHERWISE WE'D BE DOING AN ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL.
NEXT ONE WILL SHOW YOU THE DISTANCE, THE LOCATION BEHIND THE AUTO ZONE.
WE'RE AT 506 FEET AWAY FROM ANY RESIDENTIAL AND THE CODE REQUIRES 200.
UH, YOU SEE THE EXISTING WATER QUALITY PONDS DOWN ON THE BOTTOM THAT MIKE ESCALANTE TALKED ABOUT.
SO WE ALREADY HAVE WATER QUALITY BUILT IN.
UM, AND WE'RE MOSTLY IMPERVIOUS.
THAT'S THE SITE, UH, PUSHED AWAY A LITTLE BIT FROM 2 81, UH, BEHIND AUTO ZONE AND IT IS A 150 FOOT MONOPOLE.
THE, THE CHANGE IN THE SITE PLAN WAS FROM ONE 70 TO ONE 50.
BOTH CARRIERS LOOKED AT MAINTAINING THEIR CURRENT HEIGHT, SO WE JUST DROPPED IT DOWN ABOUT 20 FEET.
THAT WAS THE ONLY CHANGE IN THE, IN THE SITE PLAN ITSELF.
GENERALLY VERBATIM WHAT I JUST SAID, EVERYTHING COMPLIES.
UH, SAUL'S APPROVAL CONTINUES.
9 1 1 COVERAGE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, AND THE LAST ONE IS JUST QUESTIONS.
IF YOU HAVE ANY, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
UM, STAFF, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS CASE? WE DO HAVE A VOICEMAIL.
I CALLED EARLIER AND, UH, REALIZED I DID NOT LEAVE MY PHONE NUMBER.
THIS IS GREG SEGGERMAN, OWNER OF PROPERTY AT 2 0 2 1 4 US HIGHWAY TWO EIGHTY ONE.
LAST, UH, THREE OF THE, UH, CASE NUMBER IS 2 8 3 OR R V B.
UH, I WAS CALLING TO MAKE MY STATEMENT OF, UH, NOT BEING HAPPY WITH THE, UH, WIRELESS COMMUNICATION SYSTEM THAT THEY'RE PLANNING ON ARRESTING, UH, IN FRONT OF OUR PROPERTY.
WE'RE LOOKING AT BUILDING OUR OWN, UH, BUILDING THERE THAT, UH, WE WILL BE LEASING SOME SPACES OUT.
AND I DO FEEL THAT, UH, HAVING A TOWER DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF OUR, UM, BUILDING WOULD, UH, DEVALUE THE PROPERTY AND POSSIBLY TURN POTENTIAL, UH, LEASERS AWAY.
SO, UH, THAT'S, UH, MY STATEMENT.
THAT'S THE ONLY VOICEMAIL WE HAVE, SIR.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE A BRIEF REBUTTAL TO THAT OR NOT REALLY? MR. CHAIR, BASICALLY, UM, STANDARD DEVELOPMENT PROCESS VALUES, THOSE, THOSE THINGS DON'T ACTUALLY COME INTO PLAY.
THEY COME INTO PLAY FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PEOPLE WHO MAY BE LEASING THERE.
THIS IS A DISTRICT NINE CASE, SO COMMISSIONER BARDOS TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS.
UM, I WILL SUPPORT THIS MOTION.
UM, I CHECK, I CHECK WITH THE CITY COUNCIL OFFICE AND, UH, CITY STAFF ALSO APPROVES THIS.
UH, IT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
IF NOT, THOSE RESIDENTS ARE GONNA BE WITHOUT WIRELESS AND IT WOULD AFFECT 9 1 1 AND A FEW OTHER CITY SERVICES FOR EMERGENCY.
SO, UM, CHARLIE MASUKA, UH, ONE OF THE CITY STAFF MEMBERS, UH, FOR UM, COUNCILMAN COURAGE ALSO REACHED OUT TO NEIGHBORHOODS AND FOUND NO, UM, ISSUES WITH THAT AT ALL.
SO, UH, THERE WAS NO OPPOSITION FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS OVER A THOUSAND FEET.
SO I'LL, UH, I'LL LET THE COMMISSIONERS ASK ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I WILL SUPPORT THIS.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BARDOS.
UM, ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? NONE.
COMMISSIONER BARDOS FOR A MOTION? YEAH, AT THIS POINT THEN I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER TWO.
THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER TWO BY COMMISSIONER BARROS.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE.
UH, ANY COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER ON MY LEFT? NONE.
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ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.UM, MOVING ON TO ITEM ONE, MR. CHAIR.
I NEED TO INTERRUPT FOR A MOMENT.
UM, THE APPLICANT FOR, UM, THE DISTRICT TWO CASE ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS POSTPONING THEIR CASE ITEM NUMBER FOUR? YES SIR.
ITEM NUMBER FOUR, THEY HAVE REQUESTED A POSTPONEMENT.
SO WE WILL NOT BE HEARING THAT CASE TODAY IF ANYONE IS HERE IN THE AUDIENCE WAITING TO SPEAK ON THAT ITEM.
ALL RIGHT, IF WE COULD MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE.
HI, MY NAME IS KELLY SANDERS, PLANNING COORDINATOR, UM, CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
UH, ITEM NUMBER THREE GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE 8,000 BLOCK OF NORTH LOOP 1604 IS A REQUEST, UH, FROM M P C D E, RZ D UH, TO, UM, FOR A MAJOR SITE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR AN INCREASE IN TOTAL NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND TOTAL COMMERCIAL ACREAGE WITHIN THE M P C D 18 NOTICES WERE SENT ZERO IN FAVOR AND ZERO OPPOSED AND NO RESPONSE FROM STANTON RUN H O A.
UM, THE EXISTING M P C D UH, MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED M P C D MASTERPLAN COMMUNITY DISTRICT IS ALSO APPROPRIATE.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A MAJOR SITE PLAN AMENDMENT WITH REMOVAL OF 34.45 ACRES OF MIXED USE REMOVAL OF 21.95 ACRES OF RESIDENTIAL, AN INCREASE OF 54.30 ACRES FOR RESIDENTIAL MULTI-FAMILY USES WITH AN INCREASE IN DWELLING UNITS FROM 5 95 UNITS TO 18 OR EIGHT 15 UNITS OVERALL.
AND AN INCREASE OF 2.1 ACRES FOR COMMERCIAL USES.
UM, STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THIS ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
UH, SAWS IS HERE TO GIVE THEIR STATEMENT AND APPLICANT IS ALSO IN ATTENDANCE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IF WE COULD HAVE SAWS WITH THEIR STATEMENT PLEASE.
MIKE ESCAL WITH SAWS AQUIFER PROTECTION AND EVALUATION SECTION.
WE REVIEWED THE ZONING APPLICATION LOCATED NEAR THE NORTHEAST INTERSECTION OF LOOP 1604 AND BANDERA ROAD, ALLOWING FOR AN UPDATED MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY, UH, DEVELOPMENT SITE PLAN ON 71.51 ACRES.
A PORTION OF THE SITE APPROXIMATELY 48 ACRES, LIES IN THE RECHARGE ZONE WITH THE REMAINING 23 ACRES IN THE TRANSITION ZONE.
THE EASTERN AND SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE SITE IS IN THE FLOODPLAIN.
THE SITE IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED WITH STANDS OF, UH, NATIVE TREES.
NO SENSITIVE FEATURES WERE OBSERVED ON SITE NOR NOTED ON FILE.
SAULS RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH ALL ENVIRONMENTAL RECOMMENDATIONS WITHIN THE REPORT TO INCLUDE 50% IMPERVIOUS COVER FOR THE 48.35 ACRE PORTION OF THE SITE IN THE RECHARGE ZONE WITH THE FLOODPLAIN BUFFER PROVIDED ALONG THE EASTERN AND SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE SITE.
IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN.
MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, BUCK BENSON 7 4 5 EAST MULBERRY.
I'M REALLY HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
AS YOU CAN TELL FROM STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OR STAFF'S PRESENTATION, THE KIND OF NET RESULT OF THIS IS THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO, UH, BUILD AN ADDITIONAL 300 UNITS OF, OF MULTIFAMILY, WHICH IS, WILL KIND OF MEETS THE DEMANDS IN THE AREA.
SO WITH THAT, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS Y'ALL MAY HAVE.
UM, DO STAFF, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? NO, WE DO NOT.
THIS IS A DISTRICT, WHAT IS IT? DISTRICT EIGHT CASE.
ACTUALLY, MR. BENSON, A COUPLE QUESTIONS BEFORE WE KINDA MOVE ON HERE.
UM, ONE WAS REGARDING THE BUSINESS AROUND THE, I GUESS THE COMMERCIAL BUSINESS IN THE AREA.
HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO REACH OUT TO THEM JUST TO KIND OF TOUCH BASE WITH THE CHANGE? UH, WE DID NOT, NO SIR.
NOT WITH THE COMMERCIAL OWNERS, NO, SIR.
AND THEN JUST REGARDING, I GUESS ONCE
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THE LAYOUT ON THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE GONNA BE SITTING ON THE SIDE OF THE FRONTAGE ROAD, WILL THOSE STAY TWO STORY OR WILL THOSE BE THAT ARE CLOSE TO THE SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES? THE POINTER? WE CAN PULL UP EVERYTHING THAT, EVERYTHING THAT'S, OH, NO, THAT'S GREAT.UM, JUST A BUT COMMISSIONER, EVERYTHING THAT IS ALONG THIS SIDE THAT A BUT'S EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WILL BE TWO STORY.
I ADD ONE MORE QUESTION FOR STAFF THOUGH.
REGARDING THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT ARE IN RESIDING IN THE AREA, DO THEY GET NOTIFIED OF ANY ZONING CHANGES? UH, IT'S ONLY IF THEY'RE WITHIN THE 200 FOOT RADIUS.
AND IT'S NOT THE INDIVIDUAL APARTMENT OWNERS, IT'S THE, IT'S THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY.
UM, CHAIR, NO MORE QUESTIONS FOR ME.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER ORTIZ.
ANY OTHER QUE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? NONE.
COMMISSIONER ORTIZ FOR A MOTION.
I'D LIKE TO THANK SAS AND UM, OF COURSE THE APPLICANT FOR COMING IN TODAY WITH THE PRESENTATION.
UM, IT SEEMS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD FOR ME.
I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND RECOMMEND MY, UH, RECOMMENDATION, UH, WITH STAFF AND, AND AGREE WITH STAFF AND CITY FOR APPROVAL.
ALRIGHT, MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES.
MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER THREE BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES.
UM, ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER'S ON MY LEFT.
ANY DISCUSSION ON COMMISSIONER? RIGHT.
SEEING NONE, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BENSON.
AS MENTIONED EARLIER, ITEM NUMBER FOUR HAS BEEN POSTPONED, SO WE WILL NOT BE HEARING THAT TODAY.
SO IF YOU ARE IN THE AUDIENCE FOR THAT, UM, YOU WILL BE NOTIFIED IF IT, AND WHEN IT COMES BACK TO THIS COMMISSION, UM, PROCEEDING ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
ANN BETAS ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS LOCATED AT 1 4 3 AND 1 4 5 FOREST AVENUE AND IS A REQUEST TO GO FROM R FIVE TO I D Z ONE WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
THERE WERE 49 NOTICES MAILED WITH FIVE RETURN IN FAVOR, ZERO IN OPPOSITION.
OUTSIDE 200 FEET THERE WAS ONE IN FAVOR.
AND COLLINS GARDENS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN OPPOSITION.
THE CURRENT R FIVE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING LAND USE.
THE PROPOSED I GZ ONE LIVE IN INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE DISTRICT WITH USES PERMITTED FOR THREE DWELLING UNITS IS ALSO APPROPRIATE.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS IN AN ESTABLISHED SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD WITH DUPLEXES AND TRIPLEXES ALSO PERMITTED BY RIGHT THROUGH CONDITIONAL ZONING IN PROXIMITY TO THE PROPERTY.
ADDITIONALLY, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE CORNER OF TWO LOCAL STREET, WHICH IS AN IDEAL PLACEMENT FOR INFILL HOUSING.
THE PROPOSED USE WILL ALSO PROVIDE AN ALTERNATIVE HOUSING TYPE TO THE AREA AND ALIGNS WITH THE GOALS OF THIS STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.
STAFF RECOMMENDS THE APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE.
16 7 3 5 LARA AND THAT'S 7 8 2 5 6.
SO, UM, A COUPLE OF JUST, I, I THINK I'VE BEEN UP HERE TWICE, SO I WANT TO KIND OF MAYBE REFRESH EVERYBODY AS FAR AS WHAT WE'VE DONE.
CURRENTLY WE'RE LOOKING AT REZONING TO I D Z.
UM, WE'VE WALKED THE NEIGHBORHOOD, HAD THE ASSOCIATION MEETINGS.
I WANNA KIND OF GO OVER A COUPLE THINGS THAT, UH, WE, WE ATTENDED, UM, AND ADDRESSED WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETING.
UM, A COUPLE OF THE, THE THINGS THAT THEY WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND STATE WERE, UH, WELL SETBACKS ALLOW ADEQUATE ROOM.
UM, MAJOR CONCERN WAS THE PARKING.
WE ACTUALLY, THE WHOLE MEETING WAS PROBABLY ABOUT PARKING AND THE CONCERNS OF, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD TROUBLE WITH TRASHMEN ACTUALLY JUST DRIVING THROUGH THAT AREA AND ACTUALLY PICKING UP THEIR TRASH JUST BECAUSE OF THE CURRENT SITUATIONS.
SO I THINK, UM, AFTER UNDERSTANDING THAT, ALONG WITH, UM, ACTUALLY I THINK THOSE ARE THE ONLY, UH, PRIVACY SETBACKS AND MAJOR CONCERNS OF PARKING.
SO, YOU KNOW, AF AFTER MEETING WITH, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WE ACTUALLY WALKED THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND, UH, I, YOU KNOW, IN, IN ALL HONESTY, WE HAD FOUR PEOPLE ACTUALLY OPPOSE IT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
MEANING THAT'S WHY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WAS AGAINST IT.
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THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND REACHING OUT TO THE SAME PEOPLE THAT WERE ACTUALLY OPPOSING IT.TWO OF THOSE PEOPLE ACTUALLY WITHDREW THEIR STATEMENTS.
WE HAVE THEIR SIGNATURES ON FILE AND THEY WERE ACTUALLY IN FAVOR, MR. BUSMAN, THEY ACTUALLY WALKED WITH ME IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
TALKED TO THAT SAME GENTLEMAN THAT WAS ACTUALLY OPPOSING IT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETING AND ACTUALLY WAS IN FAVOR IN IT BECAUSE HE JUST DIDN'T HAVE UNDERSTANDING AS FAR AS, UM, THE PARKING SITUATION, WHAT WE WERE ACTUALLY DOING.
SO I D Z DOES NOT REQUIRE ANY PARKING.
UM, AND I ACTUALLY KNEW BEFORE PURCHASING, UH, THE PROPERTIES AS FAR AS WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOODS WERE OR WHAT THE NEIGHBORS WERE ACTUALLY NEEDING.
SO IN THAT, UM, WHAT WE WERE PROPOSING IS ACTUALLY ADDING PARKING TO THESE UNITS.
UH, AFTER GETTING WITH MR. BUSANTE, WE REALIZED THAT THE GARAGE, YOU KNOW, WAS PROBABLY NOT GONNA BE FAVORABLE BECAUSE YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY PUT INSIDE THE GARAGE, WHICH WOULD PROBABLY ELIMINATE AN ACTUAL PARKING SPOT, WHICH IN RETROSPECT, WHICH ACTUALLY CAUSED A CONCERN TO PARKING AGAIN.
SO CHANGING THE GARAGE, WE'VE UM, UH, ARE ACTUALLY GONNA END UP MAKING THAT A CARPORT.
SO THAT'LL ALLOW ANOTHER, UH, PARKING SPOT JUST IN CASE THAT WAS, UH, GONNA BE EVIDENT.
UM, SO WE'LL STILL HAVE TWO PARKING SPOTS, UM, INSIDE THE FENCE LINE, UH, FOR THE RESIDENCE.
AND THEN, UM, AS FAR AS THE PRIVACY CONCERNS, THEY THOUGHT THERE WAS GONNA BE PRIVACY SITU SITUATION.
UH, THEY BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS GONNA BE A PRIVACY SITUATION, UH, BECAUSE ORIGINALLY THE, THE PLAN DID NOT HAVE, UM, A FENCE LINE.
SO WE ADDRESSED THAT CONCERN BY ADDING NEW, UH, RENDERINGS SHOWING THAT THERE'S GONNA BE A FENCE LINE IN BETWEEN THAT.
SO THAT WAS A PRIVACY CONCERN ALONG WITH A BALCONY UP FRONT.
THEY DIDN'T LIKE THAT THERE WAS A BALCONY UP FRONT, I GUESS.
UH, SEEING THE NEIGHBORS WATERING THE GRASS WAS NOT IDEAL FOR THEM.
SO, UM, WE TOOK OUT THE, THE BALCONY.
UM, IT'S UNFORTUNATE BUT THERE'S NOT REALLY ANY WAY TO AVOID NEIGHBORS.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'VE ADDRESSED ALL THE CONCERNS, UH, THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, HAD.
AND AGAIN, LIKE I STATED, THERE WAS FOUR ORIGINALLY.
THEIR STATEMENTS ACTUALLY WERE IN FAVOR.
WE HAVE SEVEN SIGNATURES OF APPROVAL.
SO IN MY UNDERSTANDING, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S MORE SIGNATURES THAT WERE OPPOSED IN A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETING.
I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS.
DID WE HAVE UH, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? WE DID NOT.
UH, DISTRICT FIVE CASE COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. CHAIR.
OKAY, SO STAFF, THIS DOES HAVE A PLAN AMENDMENT ASSOCIATED WITH IT, CORRECT? CORRECT.
AND THAT HAS GONE THROUGH PLANNING? I DO BELIEVE SO.
AND IT WAS APPROVED? YES, IT WENT IN DECEMBER AND IT WAS APPROVED.
UM,
AND SO BECAUSE IT'S I D Z, THE ONLY CLASSIFICATION IN THIS PARTICULAR, UM, CATEGORY THAT FITS IS THE LOW DENSITY MIXED USE.
WE HAVE TO GO WITH THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT THAT IS ALLOWED IN THAT CATEGORY AND THAT WOULD BE I D Z IS ONLY ALLOWED IN THE LOW DENSITY MIXED USE.
SO THE, THE PLAN AMENDMENT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SORT OF THE TRADITIONAL DENSITY, WHETHER IT'S MULTI-FAMILY 1825 OR SOMETHING ON THOSE? CORRECT? CORRECT.
IT'S SIMPLY BECAUSE I D Z WAS ONLY ALLOWED IN THE URBAN LOW DENSITY URBAN MIXED USE, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
UM,
I, I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER IT, BUT WHAT IS THE PRICE POINT ON THESE HOMES IF YOU KNOW? YEAH, SO THE, THAT WAS ANOTHER, UH, QUESTION OVER THERE.
UM, NOT LOOKING AT DOING ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT THE COMPS ARE CURRENTLY AT.
OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, A YEAR FROM NOW I'M SURE COMPS, YOU, YOU, YOU JUST NEVER KNOW THERE'S RECESSION AND ALL THE OTHER FUN STUFF THAT PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE COMPS IN THAT AREA.
CURRENTLY, THE COMPS RIGHT NOW ARE GOING FOR ABOUT 1 65 ON THOSE COMPS PER SQUARE FOOT.
HOW MANY SQUARE FEET ARE THESE APPROXIMATELY? UM, THE SQUARE FEET CURRENTLY.
UM, ALRIGHT, I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS UNLESS I JUST WANT TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE.
SO I'LL OPEN UP TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BUSANTE.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? OH, COMMISSIONER WATSON.
UH, ON YOUR SITE PLAN, YOU HAVE TWO AND A HALF STORIES.
HOW MANY FEET DO YOU ANTICIPATE THE BUILDINGS BEING? UH, UNDER, UNDER, WELL ACTUALLY AT 35 'CAUSE I BELIEVE THAT'S, THAT'S THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENT.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER ON MY LEFT.
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OKAY, BACK TO YOU COMMISSIONER MONT FOR POSSIBLE MOTION.UM, SO THIS IS, AS WE ALWAYS SAY, A DIFFICULT CASE.
IF IT WASN'T DIFFICULT IT WOULD BE ON CONSENT.
UM, BUT I THINK THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS, UH, THAT ARE GOING TO LEND MY SUPPORT TO THIS.
UM, ONE, I THANK THE APPLICANT FOR GOING OUT, MEETING WITH ME REPEATEDLY MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
UM, WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT COLLINS GARDEN HAS COMPLAINED ABOUT, IT WAS THINGS LIKE PARKING AND AS THE APPLICANT UH, MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, BY ADDING THE CARPORT, BY PUSHING BACK, UM, THE HOUSES, IT ALLOWS FOR TWO PARKING SPOTS PER UNIT.
UM, WHICH I THINK WILL BE REALLY HELPFUL AND WILL ADDRESS THE CONCERNS REGARDING PARKING ON FOREST.
IT WON'T ALLEVIATE IT HAVING GONE DOWN THERE.
IT'S THERE ALREADY, BUT IT WON'T NECESSARILY ADD TO IT.
UM, THE OTHER BIG ISSUE THAT FREQUENTLY COMES UP IS WHETHER OR NOT THIS DENSITY IS APPROPRIATE.
AND IN THIS CASE THERE ARE TWO EXISTING LOTS.
UM, YOU KNOW, THEORETICALLY THIS COULD BE TWO UNITS ON EACH LOT.
REALISTICALLY IT'S PROBABLY ONE AND TWO, SO WE'RE BACK TO THREE UNITS PERIOD.
UM, THERE MIGHT BE A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY IF WE HAD ONE UNIT AND ONE MAJOR UNIT WITH AN A D U AS FAR AS PRICING AND GETTING GREATER DIVERSITY OF HOUSING.
THE PROBLEM IS, I THINK BY ADDING AN A D U, GIVEN THE LOCATION OF WHERE THAT A D U WOULD BE, WHICH WOULD BE ON THE RIGHT HAND PORTION BEHIND THE RIGHT HAND UNIT, YOU WOULD END UP GETTING RID OF OR EXACERBATING SOME PARKING ISSUES.
AND SO YOU COULD VERY WELL END UP HAVING MORE ISSUES THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD CARESS ABOUT WITH THAT ARRANGEMENT.
UM, AND SO ON BALANCE, I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS APPLICATION AND MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER FIVE WITH THE AMENDED SITE PLAN, INCLUDING THE CARPORT AND THE FENCE, WHICH WERE THE TWO THINGS RAISED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER BUSTA MONTE, UH, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARTOS.
UH, ANY DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES.
UH, I JUST WANT TO SPECIFICALLY, UM, ADDRESS THAT, UH, IT WOULD'VE BEEN A DIFFICULT CASE FOR ME TO SUPPORT HAD YOU NOT DONE AS OUTSTANDING A JOB AT COMMUNITY OUTREACH AS YOU DID.
UM, IF YOU HADN'T MADE SOME OF THOSE ADJUSTMENTS TO PARKING THE BALCONY AND ACKNOWLEDGING THE TWO AND A HALF STORIES IS VERY IMPORTANT.
UM, I KNOW IN URBAN CORE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ALSO COMES UP TO BE AN ISSUE WITH PRIVACY, UM, WHEN YOU'RE APPROACHING WHAT APPEARS TO BE THREE FEET, EVEN IF YOU'RE WITHIN THE HEIGHT LIMITATION.
SO JUST A REMINDER TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT.
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENDABLE WORK.
APPRECIATE YOU, UM, ADJUSTING TO THE NEEDS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, COMMISSIONER ON MY LEFT? NONE.
NOT, NOT A DISCUSSION MR. CHAIRMAN, BUT, UM, IF THIS IS THE FINAL PLAN, JUST THE TECHNICALITY, THE WORD PROPOSES MISSPELLED IS MISSING AN E.
SO JUST A SMALL TECHNICALITY, I'LL GET ON MY ARCHITECT.
UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO RESPOND TO THAT.
UH, AS ARCHITECT, I TAKE OFFENSE THAT WE WOULD MISSPELL SOMETHING.
UM, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER'S ON MY RIGHT.
SURE, I HAD ALSO NOTICED THAT, BUT, UH, I DIDN'T WANT TO BE ACCUSED OF BEING A GRAMMAR NAZI OR A SPELLING NAZI, SO I WAS NOT GONNA SAY ANYTHING, BUT, UM, NO, UM, I'LL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
I REALLY APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER BUS'S ANALYSIS OF THIS CASE.
I WAS STRUGGLING AS I WAS LISTENING TO THE PRESENTATION WITH ISSUES OF GENTRIFICATION AND YOU KNOW, IF ONCE YOU KIND OF REZONE IN, IN AN AREA AND YOU START LOOKING AT, UM, DIFFERENT, UH, CONFIGURATIONS OF PROPERTIES AND SETBACKS AND KIND OF RELAXING THAT, MY CONCERN IS THAT THAT HAPPENS ON THE PROPERTIES AROUND IT.
BUT THEN LOOKING AT THE PROPERTIES AROUND IT, THERE ARE HOUSES THAT ARE, UM, HAVE VERY LITTLE SETBACK.
UM, IT'S KIND OF A HIGHER DENSITY FOR SINGLE FAMILY.
SO I DON'T FEEL LIKE THIS IS REALLY OUT OF CHARACTER
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WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.I THINK IT'S BRINGING GOOD DEVELOPMENT, UM, IN AN AREA THAT SEEMS TO NEED, UM, SOME ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT.
THERE'S SOME, SOME VACANT LOTS IN THIS AREA, SO I THINK THAT'S NEEDING NEEDED HOUSING STOCK FOR COMMUNITY ADDITIONAL UNITS.
AND SO FOR THOSE REASONS, I'LL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
UM, THEN THAT IS ONE THING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AS WE VISITED THE NEIGHBORS, WAS THAT THIS HAS BEEN, UH, BOTH A VACANT LOT AND A VACANT STRUCTURE THAT HAS CAUSED PROBLEMS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
ANY OTHER FINAL COMMENTS? ALRIGHT.
UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD MINE THAT YES, I, I I SHARE EVERYTHING THAT, UM, COMMISSIONERS HAVE VOICED IN, IN, UM, APPROVAL FOR THIS ITEM.
UM, AND I'VE NOTICED THAT A LOT OF TIMES ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ENABLES A PROJECT TO GARNER ADDITIONAL SUPPORT IS ACTUALLY GOING FROM A GARAGE TO A CARPORT.
UM, AND, UH, JUST WANTED TO MAKE NOTE OF THAT.
UH, WITH THAT, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARROS.
ALRIGHT, WE ARE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 14.
IM BEN AVITAS, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER 14 IS LOCATED AT 3 7 3 0 ROOSEVELT AVENUE AND IS A REQUEST TO GO FROM C TWO TO I D Z TWO WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
THERE WERE 36 NOTICES SENT OUT TO NEIGHBORS.
ONE RETURNED IN FAVOR, ZERO IN OPPOSITION AND HARLANDALE MCCOLLUM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, UM, HAS NOT RESPONDED.
THE CURRENT C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED IDZ TWO LIMITED INFILL ZONE DISTRICT WITH USE IS PERMITTED.
AN M H P MANUFACTURING MANUFACTURED HOUSING PARK DISTRICT IS NOT APPROPRIATE.
THE PROPERTY IS SITUATED ON A BLOCK COMPRISED ALMOST ENTIRELY OF INDUSTRIAL AND MEDIUM LEVEL COMMERCIAL ZONING DESIGNATIONS.
WHILE THERE ARE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES IN PROXIMITY TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, THEY ARE EXISTING NON-CONFORMING.
ADDITIONALLY, THE PROPERTY IS JUST NORTH OF THE STINSON AIRPORT AND THE AREA PLAN DISCOURAGES RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT DUE TO NOISE DUE TO TRAFFIC AIR AIRPORT TRAFFIC.
WHILE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IS PERMITTED IN PROXIMITY TO MORE INTENSE INDUSTRIAL USES, IN SOME CIRCUMSTANCES IT IS NOT THE MOST COMPATIBLE OR APPROPRIATE LAND USE TRANSITION DUE TO THE NUISANCE NEW, SORRY, NEW SENSES THAT INDUSTRIAL USES CAN CREATE WHEN IN PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE.
JAMES MCKNIGHT WITH BROWNER ORTIZ 1 1 2 EAST PECAN AND HAVE A PRESENTATION.
UM, YEAH, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
SO I ALWAYS LIKE TO LOCATE GENERALLY WHERE WE ARE, UH, TO START WITH NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
SO A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE SITE IS 31 ACRES, AS STAFF SAID, IT IS UNDEVELOPED.
IT'S BEEN UNDEVELOPED FOR A LONG TIME.
IT WAS PREVIOUSLY USED AS A TYPE OF JUNK OR LANDFILL AS NON-TOXIC, BUT STILL THE SOIL WAS UN UNSTABLE FOR CERTAIN TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT.
SO THEY HAVE ACTUALLY TRIED, UH, OTHER, THE OWNERS OF THIS PROPERTY HAVE TRIED AT OTHER TIMES TO DEVELOP IT FOR SINGLE FAMILY, BUT, UH, A SINGLE FAMILY SLAB WOULDN'T ACTUALLY WORK HERE.
SO THAT'S WHY EVENTUALLY WE LANDED ON AND MANUFACTURED HOUSING BECAUSE WE COULD HAVE THE RAISED FOUNDATION.
UM, THE PROPERTY ALONG IS ALONG ROOSEVELT, WE OWN THAT PROPERTY AS WELL, BUT WE ARE LEAVING THAT AS COMMERCIAL AND IT'LL JUST BE ACCESS, UH, OFF OF ROOSEVELT.
IT'S, UH, CURRENTLY ZONED C TWO.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, STAFF POINTED OUT THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE EITHER I ONE I TWO OR C TWO.
SO THERE IS NO RESIDENTIAL IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA OF OF OUR PROPERTY.
AND, UM, WE ARE ASKING FOR I D Z TWO, BUT IT'S FOR MANUFACTURED HOUSING.
SO HERE'S THE SITE PLAN, OUR I D Z SITE PLAN THAT SHOWS 233 UNITS, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 7.5 UNITS PER ACRE.
BECAUSE THIS IS A LARGER SITE, IT'S 31 ACRES, INCLUDING SOME OPEN SPACE FOR A PARK.
AND THE LOTS THEMSELVES ARE ANYWHERE FROM 4,200 TO 4,400 SQUARE FEET.
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SO THIS IS NOT UNLIKE ANY A TYPICAL R FOUR SUBDIVISION, THE UNITS THEMSELVES.ARE ABOUT 1100 TO 1200 SQUARE FEET.
UH, AGAIN, THIS IS A MANUFACTURED HOME, NOT A MOBILE HOME.
SO IT HAS A PERMANENT FIXTURE AND A SKIRTING ON THE BOTTOM.
AND THAT SKIRTING IS SOMETHING THAT IS ACTUALLY PART OF THE, THE DEVELOPMENT THAT THIS, THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPER IS, UM, HAS STRONGLY FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT AND INCLUDES IN THEIR, THEIR COVENANTS FOR THIS PROPERTY.
JUST SOME PHOTOS OF THE INTERIOR TO SHOW THAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO BRING A, A REALLY HIGH QUALITY PRODUCT TO THE AREA, BUT SOMETHING THAT'S STILL ATTAINABLE.
SO THE ANALYSIS, UH, OF THE RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF.
I WANNA START WITH JUST AN OVERVIEW.
SO I D Z TWO IS SAID NOT TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT LAND USE, AND WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE PUBLIC POLICY OF THAT.
THAT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THE UNDERLYING PLAN IN THIS CASE.
UM, THE PROPOSED USE IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING AREA THAT THERE'S ADVERSE IMPACTS, AND THAT IN TURN IS ABOUT COM COMMERCIAL BEING MORE APPROPRIATE HERE.
THAT THE PERIMETER PROPERTIES, THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE DIRECTLY ADJACENT ARE ALL PER, ARE ALL COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL.
AND, AND THAT'S NOT AN APPROPRIATE MIX.
AND I'LL GO THROUGH THOSE ONE AT A TIME.
SO THE, THE PLAN RIGHT NOW SHOWS COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL AND I REALIZE THIS IS THE, THE VICINITY PLAN AND WE'VE ALREADY GONE TO PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THIS.
BUT, UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S PAINTED, THESE PLANS ARE ON THESE BROAD BRUSHES OF COMMUNITY, UH, COMMERCIAL.
BUT WHEN YOU HAVE, UM, WHEN YOU HAVE THESE LARGE AREAS OF COMMERCIAL, THEY DON'T ALWAYS WORK FOR THAT KIND OF COMMERCIAL.
AND YOU'LL SEE IT ON THE ZONING MAP WHEN YOU HAVE LARGE AREAS OF COMMERCIAL THAT USUALLY WORKS BETTER FOR BIG BOXES OR MALLS, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET THAT ON AREAS ALONG CORRIDORS.
AND WE, WHEN WE PRESENTED THIS TO A PLANNING COMMISSION JUST TWO WEEKS AGO, THEY, UH, UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL TO, UH, AND AGREED WITH US THAT THAT SHOULD CHANGE FROM COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL TO MIXED USE.
SO THIS IS ABOUT, I MENTIONED THE VICINITY PLAN.
SO THE ESSAY TOMORROW HAS ITS OWN SET OF GOALS, ONE OF WHICH IS TO INCREASE THE HOUSING SUPPLY AND THE DIVERSITY.
AND SO THESE ARE STATED GOALS IN THE ESSAY TOMORROW THAT THERE'LL BE A VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES, UM, SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED, MULTI-FAMILY, A VARIETY AT DIFFERENT PRICE AND RENT LEVELS.
THE INFILL DEVELOPMENT BE REVITALIZED NEIGHBORHOODS.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS REALLY AN INFILL KIND OF SITE.
SUSTAINABLE INFILL MIXED USE PROVIDE WALKABLE AND BIKEABLE DESTINATIONS.
IF YOU GO DOWN ROOSEVELT, YOU HAVE COMMERCIAL AREAS THAT ARE, UM, THE NEXT BLOCK UP IN THE STINSON PLAN, WHICH IS ALSO ONE OF THE PLANS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT TALKS ABOUT DISCOURAGING RESIDENTIAL USE.
AND THAT'S BASED ON POSSIBLE NOISE COMPLAINTS.
IT'S NOT A SAFETY ISSUE AND IT SAYS IT IN THE PLAN AND, AND STAFF MENTIONED IT TOO.
IT'S ABOUT POSSIBLE NOISE COMPLAINTS.
BUT WE HAVE THESE, AGAIN, COMPETING POLICIES, RIGHT? YOU HAVE ONE POLICY SAYING WE WANT TO INCREASE THE HOUSING TYPE AND ATTAINABLE HOUSING, AND WE HAVE A POLICY CHOICE THAT SAYS WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE AIRPORT NOISE, AIRPORT NOISE.
SO IT COMES DOWN TO REALLY THIS POLICY CHOICE.
AND AGAIN, AS I SAID BEFORE, PLANNING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
SO I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S IMPORTANT TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE, THE ZONING OF THIS NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
NOW WE TALK ABOUT THE COMPATIBILITY, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S COMPATIBLE TO HAVE OUR INFILL SITE STAY COMMERCIAL WHEN EVERYTHING ELSE AROUND IT IS COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL.
UH, STAFF MENTIONED THAT OF THE, CAN I BORROW THIS? THE, THESE PROPERTIES ON THE NORTH SIDE OF US ALONG HARDING ARE ALL SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING.
YES, THEY ARE NON-CONFORMING, BUT IN, UH, SAN ANTONIO'S CODE THAT NON-CONFORMING STAYS THAT WAY.
SO THE FACT THAT THEY'RE NON-CONFORMING DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT THEY ARE HOUSING AND WILL STAY HOUSING FOR AS LONG AS THEY WANT TO STAY THERE.
SO IF YOU, I I MENTIONED BEFORE THAT YOU HAVE LARGE AREAS OF COMMERCIAL THAT YOU USUALLY SEE FOR BIG BOX WHEN YOU HAVE 31 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL AND YOU'RE SURROUNDED ON ALL SIDES BY COMMERCIAL.
I WANNA KNOW WHAT KIND OF USER IS GONNA GO INTO THIS AREA.
IT'S JUST NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THAT SIZE, ESPECIALLY AT 31 ACRES.
AND AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, BECAUSE THE SOIL HAS THE CONDITIONS IT DOES, HAVING LARGE SLABS FOR COMMERCIALS JUST DOESN'T WORK IN THIS AREA.
SO WE REALLY FEEL LIKE THE RESIDENTIAL IS THE MOST APPROPRIATE AND THAT IT DOES NOT HAVE ADVERSE IMPACTS IN THIS AREA.
AND AS YOU'LL SEE ON THE NEXT SLIDE, IT'S TYPICAL TO SEE COMMERCIAL ZONING AND INDUSTRIAL ALONG THE CORRIDORS.
HERE'S SOUTH PRESA AND YOU SEE THE INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL ALONG THAT CORRIDOR, SOUTHEAST MILITARY ROOSEVELT.
AND BEHIND THAT, THAT'S WHERE YOU GET YOUR RESIDENTIAL.
SO WE'VE GOT THIS LARGE BLOCK AREA AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE.
WE HAVE HARDING ROOSEVELT, MARCH AND MISSION ROAD ALL HAVE THE COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL LINING THOSE ROADS AND WE ARE PROPOSING THE RESIDENTIAL BEHIND THAT.
SO IT, IT'S APPROPRIATE EVERYWHERE ELSE YOU JUST IN, IN THESE AREAS YOU GET THESE SHORTER BLOCKS.
BUT OURS IS A UNIQUE SITUATION.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE PROPOSING TO HAVE THAT RESIDENTIAL BEHIND THE COMMERCIAL JUST LIKE YOU'D SEE IN ANY OF THESE OTHER SITUATIONS.
SO WE'RE PART OF THE, UM, HARLANDALE MCCOLLUM
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NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND WE MET WITH THEM ON JANUARY 9TH AT THE SUGGESTION OF THE COUNCILWOMAN.THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE.
THEY, WE DIDN'T HEAR A LOT OF OPPOSITION.
THEY DID ASK A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT COSTS, OWNERSHIP, CRIME, THINGS THAT ALL HAD TO DO WITH THE MANAGEMENT OF THE SITE, NOT THE USE ITSELF.
AND IN FACT, WE HEARD A LOT OF, OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK ABOUT OFFERING A VARIETY OF HOUSING.
THEY DID ASK FOR FENCING IN THE AREA OR FENCING AROUND OUR, UM, LOCATION, WHICH OF COURSE WE AGREED TO.
AND THEY'VE ASKED US, THE COUNCILMAN'S OFFICE HAS ASKED US TO COME BACK FOR THE FEBRUARY 13TH MEETING, SO THAT'S NEXT THIS COMING MONDAY.
AND THEY'RE AWARE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND ZONING COMMISSION WERE AHEAD OF THEIR MEETING AND THEY, THEY SAID THAT THAT WAS FINE.
SO WE ARE, WE'RE HERE WITH, WITH THEIR KNOWLEDGE.
AND I WANNA POINT OUT THAT THE LARGEST PROPERTY OWNER THAT IS ADJACENT TO US IS ON THE NORTHEAST SIDE, IS IN SUPPORT AND WROTE A LETTER OF SUPPORT NOW HE WROTE HIS FIRST LETTER FOR PLANNING COMMISSION SO HE DIDN'T MAKE THE UPDATED ONE, BUT HE HAS BEEN TO ALL THE MEETINGS AND HIS SUPPORT AS WELL.
SO THIS IS, UM, JUST A REMINDER OF OUR ZONING REQUEST, I D Z TWO FOR MANUFACTURED HOUSING AND I AM HERE FOR TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE SIGNED UP.
UH, THE FIRST IS MR. FLOYD MORGAN AND THEN AFTER HIM WILL BE MR. RON MULLINS.
MR. FLOYD MORGAN, HOW Y'ALL DOING? OKAY.
UH, I OWN A PROPERTY AT UH, 7 6 3 3 AND 7 6 2 7 MISSION ROAD.
AND WE DID, UH, THE 7 6 2 7 WAS UH, FLOWER SHOP, FAMILY OWNED BUSINESS THAT WE'VE HAD FOR YEARS.
I MEAN THAT PROPERTY HAS BEEN FAMILY OWNED FOREVER.
SO, UH, THE FLOWER SHOP PART OF IT WAS, IS A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS THERE.
WE'VE HAD IT, THE HOME BEHIND IT IS OURS ALSO.
AND UH, MY SON LIVES IN IT NOW, BUT UH, IT'S A HOME BUT IT'S ALSO TIED UP WITH THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
ALL THE THINGS THAT ALL GO IN THAT AREA.
UH, I'M AGAINST THIS, UH, IMPROVEMENT THAT THEY'RE WANTING TO DO THAT TYPE OF HOUSING.
I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH PUTTING IMPROVEMENT IN THAT AREA.
BOY, I'D BE GREAT TO SEE SOMETHING GREAT COME IN THERE, BUT, UH, I DON'T THINK THE MANUFACTURED HOME PROJECT IS WHAT WE NEED THERE.
UH, YOU'VE GOT THE BROOKS AREA OVER THERE THAT'S BOOMING.
WE'RE GETTING GOOD GROWTH, GOOD POSITIVE TYPE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, COMING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, YOU'VE GOT THE, UH, THAT LOMA VISTA OR WHAT I FORGET LOMA MESA DOWN ON ROOSEVELT THAT CAME UP.
THAT'S A NICE POSITIVE NEIGHBORHOOD.
GOOD HOMES, WELL BUILT SET IN THERE.
NO MANUFACTURED HOMES IN THERE.
UH, I JUST DON'T THINK A MANUFACTURED HOME PROJECT IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD BE WHAT WE NEED.
WE NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING MORE OF A POSITIVE GROWTH IN THAT AREA.
LET'S KEEP UP WITH IT OVER THERE.
LET'S STAY WITH POSITIVE IMPROVEMENT, NOT BACK UP AND GO TO TRAILER PARKS AGAIN.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH MY OPINION ON IT.
UH, THE PROPERTY I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTOOD, WHICH HE SOUNDS LIKE HE, UH, KIND OF KNOWS THAT IT WAS A BACKFIELD DUMP THAT WAS, UH, THAT ALL THAT AREA WAS A BIG GRAVEL PIT AND SO THEY BACKFILLED IT WITH NO TELLING WHAT ALL'S IN THERE.
SO I KNOW BUILDING WASTE, THERE'S BEEN NO TELLING WHAT KIND OF WASTE IS IN THERE AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE DONE ENVIRONMENTAL CHECKS OR ANYTHING ON THAT, BUT I KNOW IN MY FIELD I WORK INDUSTRIAL MAINTENANCE.
SO I KNOW ANYTIME WE GET READY TO DO ANYTHING, WE GOTTA DO ALL THE HAZARDOUS MATERIAL CHECKS.
UH, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BEEN DONE OR NOT.
ANYWAY, JUST WANTED TO BRING THOSE THINGS UP, LET Y'ALL KNOW WHAT I THINK.
UH, LIKE I SAID, I'D LIKE TO SEE US STAY WITH A MORE POSITIVE GROWTH AND A MORE BENEFICIAL GROWTH TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAN PUTTING A TRAILER PARK IN, OR SORRY, MANUFACTURED HOME.
AND MR. RON MULLINS? YES, UH, RON MULLINS, UH, LIVES AT 7 7 1 5 MISSION ROAD AND WE HAVE A BUSINESS AT 7 7 2 3 MISSION ROAD.
IT'S RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO IT, SO WE'RE RIGHT TO IT.
UH, BACK WHEN THE, UH, ROOSEVELT CORRIDOR WAS BEING PRESENTED A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, I CAME TO THAT MEETING AND THAT'S, AND THEN, UH, HEARD WHAT WAS BEING PLANNED AND ALL OF THAT.
THEN NOT TOO LONG AFTER THAT, I HAD, UH, CITY WORKERS WERE COMING OUT, GOING ALL OVER OUR PROPERTY AND I I ASKED THEM, WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? I WAS LOOKING FOR, UH, AN EASEMENT.
THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE AN EASEMENT THROUGH YOUR PROPERTY TO GO BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE AN INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX, IT'S GONNA BE PUT OUT IN THE BACK HERE.
BUT THE, UH, EASEMENT WHEN ENDED UP, I FOUND MY FATHER'S PLA WHEN HE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY AND IT WENT THROUGH MY MOTHER'S BEDROOM.
SO I SAID, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GONNA BE GETTING AN EASEMENT THROUGH THERE.
SO THERE IS A POSSIBILITY OF AN, THEY WERE TALKED ABOUT AN
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EASEMENT GOING THROUGH BETWEEN OUR PROPERTY AND MR. MORGAN'S PROPERTY THAT WOULD GO TO THAT INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX.IF YOU PUT AN INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX, I'D AGREE TO THAT.
THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE OUT THERE.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'D BE REALLY NICE TO HAVE THAT.
HOMES I DON'T THINK WOULD FLY.
I I AGREE WITH MR. MORGAN ON THAT, BUT, UH, I'M OKAY WITH THAT.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE AN INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX AND A RESIDENTIAL SIDE BY SIDE.
SO I MEAN IT'S, IT DOESN'T BOTHER US ONE OR THE OTHER.
AND I DON'T THINK MY INDUSTRIAL THING KEPT Y'ALL UP AT NIGHT 'CAUSE IT'S REAL QUIET.
IT'S NOT, IT'S A QUIET LITTLE THING, SO
UH, WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE A CHANCE TO RESPOND? YES SIR.
I DO THINK I DO UNDERSTAND THE STATEMENT OF SAYING WE WANT CERTAIN TYPES OF HOMES OR GROWTH, BUT A COUPLE THINGS ABOUT THAT.
FOR ONE, THE MANUFACTURED HOUSING PRODUCTS THAT ARE PUT OUT NOW ARE A LOT DIFFERENT THAN THEY USED TO BE.
THEY'RE A LOT BETTER THAN THEY USED TO BE.
AND IT IS THE KIND OF COMMUNITY THAT STAYS AROUND FOR 30, 40, 50 YEARS.
THESE HOMES THEY LAST AND THIS, THIS DEVELOPER HAS HAD THESE HOMES FOR OR HAS THIS TYPE OF COMPLEX, UM, IN AUSTIN AND HOUSTON.
AND THEY, THEY STAND BEHIND THEIR PRODUCT.
THE SECOND THING IS WHAT'S BENEFICIAL, WHAT WE NEED AT THIS MOMENT IS THIS ATTAINABLE HOUSING THAT'S MORE DIVERSE.
WE NEED THE ABILITY TO GIVE PEOPLE MORE THAN ONE TYPE OF HOUSING.
AND THIS PROVIDES THAT KIND OF ATTAINABILITY THAT, YOU KNOW, AN AREA THAT HAS THE KIND OF COMMERCIAL THAT IT DOES NORTH OF IT REALLY SHOULD BE USED TAKING ADVANTAGE OF.
AND WITH THE, THE TYPE OF SOIL THAT IT'S THERE.
I JUST DON'T SEE US BEING ABLE TO PUT IN INDUSTRIAL, LIKE YOU SAID, WE'VE DONE THE ENVIRONMENTAL TESTING.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONE THING I WANNA SAY WE HAVE, IT'S NOT TOXIC, BUT IT DEFINITELY WAS NOT COMPACTED.
SO WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO PUT LARGE BUILDINGS HERE, LARGE SLABS HERE.
SO IN THE INTEREST OF USING THIS LAND AND BEING USING IT IN A WAY THAT'S REALLY GONNA BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY, THAT'S WHY WE'RE SUGGESTING THIS MANUFACTURED HOUSING.
THIS IS A DISTRICT THREE CASE, SO COMMISSIONER FUENTES FOR YOU FOR QUESTIONS.
UH, I DO, UH, AGREE THAT DISTRICT THREE DOES NEED, UH, MORE DIVERSITY IN HOUSING.
UM, THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT WERE MENTIONED BY, UH, THE SPEAKERS, UH, ALL GREAT SITES, UH, ALL PROVIDING MUCH NEEDED HOUSING.
BUT ON THAT NOTE, THERE DOES NEED TO BE AS, UH, MR. MCKNIGHT SAID, MORE ATTAINABLE, UH, SOURCES OF HOUSING AND AT DIFFERENT LEVELS, UM, FAMILIAR WITH, UH, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THESE MANUFACTURED, UH, WHOM PARKS AND, UM, WHAT IS PRETTY MUCH IN EVER IN'S MIND AS A A TRAILER PARK.
UH, BUT THERE ARE DIFFERENCES AND, UH, ONE OF THESE, UH, DIFFERENCES BEING IS THE PERMANENCE AND THE, UH, UPKEEP THAT'S REQUIRED FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.
UM, AND IT'S BECAUSE OF THAT, THAT I, UM, UH, SEE THIS TO BE A, A VERY FAVORABLE DEVELOPMENT.
UH, BUT NO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, COMMISSIONER LAMER.
UH, QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT PLEASE.
UH, SO EARLIER YOU TALKED ABOUT, UH, UH, ATTAINABLE HOUSING.
SO WHAT PRICE RANGE WERE YOU LOOKING AT? RIGHT, THE PRICE RANGE FOR THESE IS UNDER A HUNDRED THOUSAND OR RIGHT ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
AND THAT'S, THEY, THE DEVELOPER SELLS THESE UNITS.
UM, PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO BUILD, BRING THEIR OWN UNITS IF THEY HAVE THEM, BUT THEY HAVE TO MEET CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE IN, BUILT INTO THE DEVELOPMENT THEMSELVES.
BUT, UM, FOR THIS TYPE OF UNIT, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 85 TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
AND, AND EARLIER YOU ALSO MENTIONED THE, THE SIZE OF THE LOT.
SO WHAT THE EQUIVALENT TO WHAT R FOUR, R FIVE? YES SIR.
THEY'RE ABOUT 4,400 SQUARE FEET.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER'S ON MY RIGHT? NO COMMISSION ON MY LEFT.
QUESTIONS COMM OH, COMMISSIONER BUSANTE FIRST.
UM, MR. MCKNIGHT TO YOU, COULD WE GET THE SITE PLAN UP PLEASE? OKAY.
SO I KNOW YOU MENTIONED YOU'RE PUTTING IN A FENCE.
IS THERE ANY BUFFER BETWEEN THE SITE AND THE SURROUNDING USES OR ARE THEY KIND OF JUST RIGHT UP AGAINST THE MOMENT THEY'RE RIGHT UP AGAINST IT.
I MEAN THAT WAS ONE OF THE, ACTUALLY ONE OF THE REASONS FOR SUGGESTING THE I D Z IS WE ARE, THE UNIT ITSELF IS ONLY 1100 SQUARE FEET, SO THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM IN THE BACK, BUT THERE'S NO BUILT-IN BUFFER OTHERWISE.
UM, AND WHEN YOU SAY THAT THERE ARE STANDARDS, RIGHT, THE STANDARDS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE THE MANUFACTURED HOME CONSTRUCTION SAFETY STANDARDS PROVIDED BY
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HUD, RIGHT? CORRECT.AND SO ALL PLUS THIS USER, SORRY, PLUS THE USER HIMSELF PUTS IN A, A, A VERY HEFTY SET OF STANDARDS.
UM, BUT AT THE VERY LEAST, THE HUD STANDARDS CORRECT? THAT'S RIGHT.
UH, NOW YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE WERE OTHER SIMILAR DEVELOPMENTS IN AUSTIN AND HOUSTON.
HOW OLD ARE THOSE, UH, DEVELOPMENTS AT THIS TIME? IF YOU KNOW, THE TIMBER WILD, I THINK IS 20 YEARS OLD AT THE MOMENT AND WHICH IS WHERE I GOT THE PHOTOS OF THE OTHER ONE.
AND HOW LONG, UH, HAS THIS COMPANY BEEN IN BUSINESS? IT'S 20 YEARS.
AND SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 50 YEARS AS WE GO FORWARD.
UH, THERE'S NOT A CASE THAT THIS IS GONNA END UP DISAPPEARING? NO, NO.
THEY, HE'S GOT, HE WANTS TO HOLD IT FOR A LONG TIME WITHOUT ASKING YOU TO, YOU KNOW, LOOK INTO YOUR CRYSTAL BALL, BUT RIGHT.
THAT'S NOT THE INTENTION HERE.
AND YOU KNOW, ONE, UH, MR. MULLENS I BELIEVE TALKED ABOUT AN INDUSTRIAL USAGE HERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SORT OF THAT BROWNFIELD, EVEN NOT POLLUTED, BUT YOU KNOW, NOT COMPACTED SOIL, AN INDUSTRIAL USE WOULD PROBABLY REQUIRE EVEN GREATER, UH, FOUNDATION SUPPORT THAN A RESIDENTIAL USE.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
FOR WAREHOUSES AND THINGS, YEAH, YOU'D NEED A LARGE, MUCH LARGER SUPPORT.
SEE, IT'S GOOD TO HAVE AN ARCHITECT SOMETIMES
UM, BUT, UH, ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. MCNIGHT.
GEEZ, PROBABLY ADDRESSED 'EM, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE.
NOW THESE LOTS, THEY'RE GONNA BE, I GUESS PEER BEAMED DOWN SKIRTED.
SO THEY HAVE A, THEY HAVE A SLAB, BUT THAT'S NOT TAKING, I MEAN THAT'S, THAT ISN'T LAID OUT THE WAY YOU WOULD LAY OUT, NOT GONNA BE RECOGNIZED AS REAL PROPERTY FOR THESE PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY OWN THESE SPECIFIC LOTS.
SO THESE LOTS, ARE IT GONNA BE MANAGED LIKE A MANAGEMENT COMPANY SITTING THAT'S CORRECT.
AND I'M JUST GONNA RUN SOME OTHER QUESTIONS FAR AS FAR AS PLUMBING.
ARE THEY THESE PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN PLUMBING ON THESE LOTS? YOU MEAN AS FAR AS PAYING FOR UTILITIES? YES, THEY ARE.
UM, AND I'M ASSUMING SKIRTED DOWN VACANT LOTS, HOW LONG HAS THIS LOT BEEN VACANT? THEY SAID THEY COULDN'T DEVELOP AS FAR AS LIKE IT'S BEEN, THEY ACTUALLY MIGHT KNOW THE ANSWER BETTER THAN I DO.
SO IT'S BEEN PROBABLY OVER 30, 40 YEARS.
THEY COULDN'T DO ANYTHING WITH THIS LAND.
SO NOW THE PROPOSAL WAS TO BRING SOMETHING ELSE THAT CAN DEVELOP FOR MULTI-USE.
AND IT'S STILL THE SAME OWNER FOR ALL THAT TIME.
UM, AND THEN THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY WOULD BE, I GUESS BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY TYPE OF, AS, AS FAR AS JUST THE TENANTS THAT ARE HANDLING IT, THE TENANTS THAT ARE COMING IN.
AND THAT WAS A BIG, BIG QUESTION THAT CAME UP AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING A LOT WAS ONE THING THAT PEOPLE CON CONCERNED THEMSELVES WITH IS HOW THE STANDARDS OF THE PERSON THAT ARE LIVING THERE TO HAVE THEM EVICTED IF, IF THEY'RE NOT TAKING CARE OF THEIR PROPERTY.
AND THOSE ARE VERY HIGH STANDARDS, WOULD THESE BE LIKE MONTHLY RENTALS OR WEEKLY? HOW WOULD THESE PEOPLE COMING IN, LIKE IF THEY'RE JUST COMING IN RENT, LIKE IF THEY'RE IN IN TRANSIT TO SOME OTHER CITY OR LIKE, USUALLY NOT.
USUALLY IT IS IF THEY COME IN WITH THEIR OWN, HE SAID THAT'S A VERY LOW PERCENTAGE, MAYBE 5% OF THE PEOPLE.
OTHERWISE THEY'RE ACTUALLY PURCHASING FROM THEM.
ONE MORE MORE QUESTIONS FROM ME.
UH, YEAH, IF YOU COULD JUST SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO, UM, THE EXISTING USES.
UM, ACTUALLY THE SITE OF RIGHT NOW, THERE'S LOTS IN FRONT HERE AND I TOO, THEY DON'T LOOK LIKE INDUSTRIAL USES FROM SURROUNDING PHOTOS.
BUT MY MAIN CONCERN WOULD BE THINGS THAT ARE CURRENTLY I ZONED I TWO.
WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE THAT WOULD IMPACT THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE BEING LIVED IN IN THIS SITE? NO, THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
SO THERE ARE SOME ON THE SOUTH THAT ARE VACANT.
THERE ARE SOME THAT HAVE HOMES ON THEM.
ACTUALLY ON THE, ON THAT SOUTH SIDE AS WELL.
ON THE NORTH SIDE THERE'S AN INDUSTRIAL LOT THAT IS A, A IS A, UM, CAR PART, UH, CAR LOT ESSENTIALLY.
AND THEN I THINK ALL OF THE ONES ON THE NORTH THAT ARE HOMES ARE COMMERCIAL.
SO ON THE SOUTH THERE IS AN I TWO LOT.
UM, I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT'S ON IT, BUT IT IS SMALL ENOUGH THAT I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT YOU'D BE ABLE TO PUT AN I TWO USE ON IT THAT WOULD HURT OR IMPACT THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES THAT MUCH.
THAT'S AT LEAST THAT IS WHAT OUR OWNERS BELIEVING.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, UM, JUST A QUESTION EITHER FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT, WHOEVER CAN ANSWER.
I JUST WANNA OUTLINE, UM, SO THERE'S A HISTORIC OVERLAY ON THIS PROPERTY, RIGHT? THERE IS, AND SO THAT MEANS WE'RE GONNA, EVEN IF THIS GETS APPROVED HERE, THERE'S STILL AN ADDITIONAL APPROVAL THAT WE'LL HAVE TO GO TO H D R C, RIGHT? YES SIR.
IN ORDER FOR THE DESIGN AND EVERYTHING TO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT, YES.
AND WE CONTACTED, UH, THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION DURING THIS PROCESS TO ASK ABOUT IT.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THERE WASN'T AN ISSUE WITH THE MANUFACTURED HOME USE AS IT WAS.
AND HE SAID THIS IS, UH, COREY EDWARDS SAID, NO, THERE'S NOT, UH, THERE MAY BE A FEW THINGS ABOUT THE FENCING ON THE EXTERIOR THAT WOULD, THAT MIGHT BE THE EXTENT OF WHAT WOULD BE APPROVED AT H D R C.
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ALL RIGHT.ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMERS ON MY LEFT.
SORRY, I JUST THOUGHT ABOUT IT.
IS THERE A WAY FOR, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING ADJACENT TO PROVIDE THEM, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE THEY KNOW THAT, LIKE YOU SAID EARLIER, THEY HAVE, THERE'S THIS BAD MONOTONY ON FOREST AS MANUFACTURED HOUSING.
TO SHOW MAYBE AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT WOULD BE MOVING IN POSSIBLY INTO THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS SO THEY CAN HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING WHAT'S COMING IN.
I THINK, YEAH, THEY, SO THIS DEVELOPER HAS, LIKE I SAID, THIS STRINGENT SET OF STANDARDS.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THEY'D LIKE TO SEE.
'CAUSE IT SHOWS THE, THE UNIT AND THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR THE PROPERTY.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT? NONE.
I GUESS I THINK MY QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED.
UM, SO BACK TO YOU COMMISSIONER FUENTES FOR A MOTION.
UM, I WOULD UH, MOTION TO APPROVE THIS AS IT IS.
COMMISSIONER, WE, UH, SECOND, UM, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.
COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT? NONE.
UM, I'LL BE HONEST, THIS, THIS IS KIND OF A DIFFICULT CASE BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNER'S CONCERNS.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, PART OF ME IS IT, IT, IT JUST SEEMS, I DON'T KNOW WRONG IN A WAY THAT IT'S LIKE, WELL THIS USED TO BE A, A LANDFILL, SO I GUESS WE'LL PUT MANUFACTURED HOUSING ON THERE BECAUSE NO ONE ELSE WOULD WANT IT.
UM, THAT, THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY OPTION.
UM, YOU KNOW, I, BUT I THINK I AM GOING TO DEFER TO THE COMMISSIONER WHO, WHOSE DISTRICT THIS RESIDES IN.
UM, I MEAN THERE IS BENEFITS TO ADDITIONAL HOUSING, THERE IS BENEFIT TO ADDITIONAL PRICE POINTS.
UM, YOU KNOW, IN THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT LIKE WE'VE HAD, UH, VERY HIGH PRICES ON, ON OTHER OTHER PROJECTS AND, UM, WE'RE KIND OF MISSING THE, UM, ALMOST THE, UH, THE, THE STARTER PRICING.
SO WITH THAT MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL, UM, BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES AND I FORGET WHO, WHO SECONDED.
OH, COMMISSIONER WE, COMMISSIONER WE THANK YOU.
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I BELIEVE THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS MINUTES.UH, SIR, WE NEED TO GO BACK, OH, SORRY FOR ONE SECOND.
WE'RE GONNA PLAY A VOICEMAIL THAT WE RECEIVED RIGHT BEFORE THE DEADLINE, JUST, UH, IN FAIRNESS TO THE PERSON WHO CALLED IN.
SO FOR WHICH ITEM? IT WAS ITEM 15, I BELIEVE.
LADIES, CAN YOU GO AHEAD AND HI MA'AM.
MY TELEPHONE NUMBER IS (210) 309-5202.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE CAR WASH, BUT I DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SAFETY.
THE DILEMMA IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD ALREADY HAS A PROBLEM BEFORE AUTOZONE WAS THERE.
SO NOW BECAUSE OF AUTOZONE, WE HAVE TROUBLE GETTING IN AND OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
NOW YOU WANNA ADD A CAR WASH, MAKING IT EVEN MORE DIFFICULT.
IF YOU COULD PLEASE GET WITH THE CITY APPLICANT AND IF YOU CARE ABOUT SAFETY, PLEASE ASK THEM TO PUT A TRAFFIC LIGHT ON.
THAT WOULD HELP US ALL AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL AS YOURSELF.
UM, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES? MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
ALRIGHT, MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES BY COMMISSIONER WHITE, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARTOS.
WE'LL DO THIS BY ALL SAYING YES OR AYE.
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DO WE HAVE A DIRECTOR'S APPOINT, UH, DIRECTOR'S REPORT? NO SIR.ALRIGHT, WELL I THINK THAT'S IT, RIGHT? ALRIGHT, WELL, UH, MOTION WE DON'T DO A MOTION TO ADJO.
I NEVER EVEN THOUGHT TO LOOK AND SEE.
SORRY, I I DON'T KNOW WHY I AM LIKE NERVOUS TODAY, BUT, BUT, UH, WELL, I KNOW, BUT I MOM CONGRATULATIONS CHAIR.
BUT, BUT IN THE PAST I WAS LIKE, OH, I'VE FILLED IN AND, AND WASN'T NERVOUS BUT THIS TIME FOR SOME REASON I AM.
ALRIGHT, SO TIME IS 2 22 I BELIEVE, AND THE ZONING COMMISSION HEARING IS ADJOURNED.