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LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE TIME IS NOW 9 0 7 0 9, FEBRUARY, 2023.

UH, THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD IS TO CONVENE.

UH, MY NAME IS DWAYNE NELSON.

I'LL BE YOUR CHAIR FOR THIS MORNING'S PANEL.

UH, COULD WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? DWAYNE NELSON.

PRESENT FRED ANDES.

PRESENT.

LENCIA HAYES.

PRESENT.

KAYLA MIRANDA.

HERE.

JOEL SOLIS.

PRESENT.

DR.

ERLINDA LOPEZ RODRIGUEZ.

PRESENT MS. BROWN.

HERE.

ROBERT TAPIA.

PRESENT.

ALSO PRESENT IN THE MEETING FROM THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ARE ERIC BURNS FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND FROM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

ALICE GUERRO, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES MANAGER JENNY RAMIREZ.

CODE ENFORCEMENT MANAGER JUDY KRUM.

B SS B LIAISON, ESTHER ORTIZ, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES SPECIALIST.

AND MYSELF, JENNIFER MARTINEZ.

ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT TOO.

CHAIR.

A QUORUM IS PRESENT.

THANK YOU.

PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONE OR ANY DEVICE THAT MAY DISRUPT THIS PUBLIC MEETING.

ALL OF US GOT YOUR SILENCE NOW.

YES.

HAD TO MAKE SURE MINE WAS SILENCED.

NO PERSON SHALL DELAY OR DISRUPT THE PROCEEDINGS OR DISOBEY THE ORDER OF THE CHAIR.

IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON A CASE, YOU'LL BE ALLOWED THREE MINUTES.

HOWEVER, AN OWNER OR OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE WILL HAVE UNLIMITED TIME.

PLEASE KEEP ALL INFORMATION RELEVANT TO THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION AND THE CODE VIOLATION AS ADVISED PRIOR TO THIS PUBLIC HEARING, THE CITY WILL PROVIDE TRANSLATION SERVICES FOR ANYONE NEEDING ASSISTANCE.

IT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU'VE MADE ARRANGEMENTS, UH, AS ADVISED IN YOUR NOTICE OF HEARING, OUR EXPECTATION IS THAT YOU HAVE SUBMITTED THE REQUIRED DOCUMENTS PRIOR TO THE PUBLIC HEARING.

YOUR RESPONSIBILITY AS A PROPERTY OWNER OR A LIEN HOLDER OF A DILAPIDATED STRUCTURE CASE IS TO DEMONSTRATE THE FOLLOWING.

NUMBER ONE, PROVIDE THE REQUIRED DOCUMENTS.

DISCUSS YOUR DETAILED SCOPE OF WORK WITH A COST FOR EACH ITEM OUTLINED IN ORDER TO BRING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE TO THE SATISFACTION OF THE CODE OFFICER.

NUMBER TWO, SUBMIT THE REQUIRED PROOF OF FINANCIAL ABILITY TO PAY FOR THE PROPOSED WORK AND DISCUSS FEASIBILITY OF REPAIRS DEPENDENT UPON MONIES AT HAND.

AND NUMBER THREE, REQUEST THE AMOUNT OF TIME NEEDED TO COMPLETE THE WORK.

ALL ABATEMENT ORDERED BY THE BOARD SHALL BE ENFORCED.

ALL WORK PROPOSED MUST BE DONE WITHIN CODE REGULATIONS WITH REQUIRED PERMITS PRIOR TO THE COMMENCEMENT OF WORK.

YOU MAY OBTAIN ALL PERMITS FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES LOCATED AT 1901 SOUTH ALAMO STREET, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 0 4.

THAT'S THE BUILDING WE'RE IN.

IF ENDOWED AS TO THE, TO THE PROCESS DURING THE TIME, PLEASE CONDUCT CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS.

ANY OWNER OR LIEN HOLDER DISSATISFIED WITH THE ORDER OF THIS BOARD MAY FILE AN APPEAL WITH CIVIL DISTRICT COURT WITHIN 30 DAYS AFTER THE DATE THE ORDER IS MAILED.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ORDER, PLEASE CONTACT THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER OR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES STAFF MEMBER OR BY PHONE AT (210) 207-5422.

PLEASE NOTE THAT IT IS UNLAWFUL FOR ANY PERSON PRESENT TO SOLICIT OR PEDAL SERVICES REGARDING ANY PROPERTY UNDER CONSIDERATION BY THIS BOARD DURING THE COURSE OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING.

AS PER CITY CODE SECTION 16 DASH 2 36.

THANK YOU.

IF WE COULD, LET'S HAVE A TRANSLATION SERVICE PLEASE.

GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS JEAN MARIE RINI.

I'M ONE OF THE SPANISH INTERPRETERS.

BUENO.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

THANK YOU.

THE BOARD HAS

[Approval of Minutes  ]

RECEIVED COPIES OF THE MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING ON THE 26TH OF JANUARY.

CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

MR. CHAIR, THIS IS FRED HEIS.

I HAVE MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE MINUTES AS IS FOR JANUARY 26TH, 2023.

MR. ANDES HAS MOVED THAT WE ACCEPT THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED TO THE PANEL.

DO I HAVE A SECOND ROBERT TOY? SECOND.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY.

MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

UH, AT THIS TIME, WE WOULD

[ Briefing and Possible Action on the following items  ]

ASK THAT THE, UH, CITY STAFF PRESENT ONE CASE AS WE SEE IT ON THE AGENDA.

GOOD MORNING BOARD.

GOOD MORNING.

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I HAVE ONE ITEM TO READ INTO RECORD.

THE STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 50 10 CASTORVILLE ROAD WAS DEMOLISHED AS AN EMERGENCY ON FEBRUARY 1ST, 2023 DUE TO THE EXTENSIVE FIRE, WHICH OCCURRED ON JANUARY 23RD, 2023.

PURSUANT TO CHAPTER SIX DASH 1 75, NO FURTHER ACTION IS NEEDED BY THE BOARD AT THIS TIME.

DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.

YES, SIR.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

WE WILL HEAR OUR FIRST CASE.

GOOD MORNING BOARD.

GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING.

FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS JOSHUA MARTINEZ, DANGEROUS PREMISES OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

THE STRUCTURE BEING PRESENTED TODAY IS LOCATED AT 1 0 7 HARDWOOD DRIVE WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR DEMOLITION TO THE MAIN STRUCTURES AND DEMOLITION TO THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURES IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CITY CODE.

ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER SIX.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THE MAIN STRUCTURES AS WELL AS THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURES AT 1 0 7.

HARWOOD IS BEING PRESENTED BEFORE THE BOARD TODAY.

PLEASE NOTE ON NOVEMBER 15TH, 2022, A DANGEROUS ASSESSMENT RESPONSE TEAM INSPECTION WAS CONDUCTED.

THE INSPECTION IS A COLLABORATED INSPECTION WITH A VARIETY OF CITY DEPARTMENTS THAT INCLUDE THE SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION IS N C B 9 6 6 8 BLOCK FOUR, LOT 12 LOCATED IN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT ONE.

THE OWNER ON RECORD IS FELIX EZ WITH A MAILING ADDRESS OF PO BOX 5 2 5 1, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 0 1.

THE FOLLOWING INDIVIDUALS ARE PRESENT TODAY.

THE OWNER'S ATTORNEY, MR. NEIL AND S A P D.

OFFICER FLORES, THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION HAS CONFIRMED ON NOVEMBER 22ND, 2022.

THE PROPERTY IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR HISTORIC DESIGNATION.

THE FOLLOWING IS A TIMELINE OF EVENTS REGARDING THE NOTIFICATION PROCESS.

THE FIRST INSPECTION REGARDING 1 0 7 HARDWOOD DRIVE WAS CONDUCTED ON NOVEMBER 15TH, 2022.

ORIGINAL NOTICE WAS MAILED OUT NOVEMBER 17TH, 2022, AND A CERTIFIED RECEIPT WAS RETURNED UNCLAIMED ON DECEMBER 9TH, 2022 ON JANUARY 27TH, 2023.

THE NOTICE FOR THE B SS B HEARING WAS POSTED AT 1 0 7 HARDWOOD DRIVE ON JANUARY 27TH, 2023.

THE NOTICE FOR THE B S B HEARING WAS ALSO MAILED TO MR. FELIX EZ AND THE CERTIFIED RECEIPT REMAINS PENDING RETURN ON FEBRUARY 1ST, 2023.

THAT ADMINISTRATIVE WARRANT WAS EXECUTED TO OBTAIN PHOTOGRAPHS WITH A STRUCTURE TO PRESENT BEFORE THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD.

TODAY NO SCOPE OF WORK OR FINANCIAL PROOF OR LETTER OF CREDIT OR ENGINEER REPORT HAS BEEN PROVIDED AND NO PERMITS HAVE BEEN OBTAINED AT THIS TIME.

THERE IS AN ACTIVE, UM, POWER TO THE PROPERTY AS WELL AS WATER SERVICES TO THE PROPERTY.

SS A P D ALSO HAS MULTIPLE CALLS FOR THIS PROPERTY AS WELL, WHICH THEY WILL SPEAK ON BEHALF OF WHEN THEY COME UP TO PRESENT.

THE PHOTOS THAT ARE BEING PRESENTED TODAY WERE TAKEN ON NOVEMBER 15TH, 2022 AND FEBRUARY 1ST, 2023 AT THIS PROPERTY.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO NOTE THAT THE OWNER IS ALLOWING A MULTIFAMILY LIVING, WHICH AT THIS TIME THE PROPERTY IS ZONED R FOUR, WHICH DOES NOT ALLOW A MULTIFAMILY, AND IT ONLY ALLOWS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

THIS IS GONNA BE THE FRONT ELEVATION OF THE STRUCTURE.

YOU CAN SEE THERE'S TWO DOORS, ONE ON THE LEFT, ONE ON THE RIGHT.

THEY'RE BOTH OCCUPIED AT THIS TIME.

A CLOSER PICTURE TO THE LEFT SIDE, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IS A STRAP THAT'S WRAPPED AROUND THE PILLAR HERE TO BOTH PILLARS.

MOVING ALONG TO THE FOUNDATION THAT WAS TAKEN, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S, THERE'S ROTTING AND DETERIORATION TO THE POSTS AND IN THE PHOTO BEHIND WHERE THE, THE CAT'S AT.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT POST IS NOT EVEN CONNECTED TO THE, TO THE BEAM ITSELF.

IT'S STARTING TO SINK IN THE GRADE.

MOVING INTO THE BACK OF THE STRUCTURE, YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE HAVE AN ACCESSORY THAT'S BUDDING UP AGAINST IT.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

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A CLOSER LOOK OF THAT, SHOWING THAT THE DAMAGE TO THE REAR ELEVATION, DETERIORATION, LACK OF WEATHER PROTECTION TO THE STRUCTURE ITSELF FROM THE SAME ANGLE.

JUST MOVING TO THE RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S MORE DETERIORATION TO THE SIDING.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THE EXPOSED WOOD MEMBERS ARE ROTTED, DETERIORATED.

BOTTOM PLATES ARE ROTTED AS WELL.

FURTHER TO THE, UH, OF THE REAR ELEVATION ALONG THE RIGHT SIDE, YOU SEE THIS POST OVER THE PATIO IS, IS LEANING.

NOW UNDERNEATH THAT SAME PICTURE TO THE LEFT, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE WATER HEATER IS CURRENTLY RESTING ON GRADE AS WELL AS DETERIORATION TO THE DOOR FRAMES ALONG THE RIGHT ELEVATION.

UH, THE LEFT ELEVATION OF THE STRUCTURE THAT WAS TAKEN FROM THE REAR.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IS, AGAIN, JUST LACK OF WEATHER PROTECTION DETERIORATION TO THE SIDING.

UH, TOWARDS THE RIGHT SIDE OF THIS PHOTO, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE WAS SOME KIND OF REPAIRS BEING DONE WHERE THEY PUT FOAM IN BETWEEN THE LARGE CRACKS.

AND THIS PICTURE HERE, YOU CAN JUST HAVE A BETTER CLOSER LOOK AT THAT.

NOW, MOVING INSIDE ONE OF THE UNITS, YOU CAN SEE THERE IS A LARGE AMOUNT OF I DEBRIS INSIDE THE STRUCTURE, WHICH MADE IT VERY DIFFICULT TO, TO WALK THROUGH, WHICH IS POSING AN EGRESS CONCERN.

IN CASE OF FIRE OR PANIC, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S EXTENSION CORDS RUNNING THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE UNIT, WHICH ARE PLUGGING INTO OTHER EXTENSION CORDS, WHICH IS POWERING CERTAIN ROOMS, SEE DAMAGE TO THE DOORFRAME.

UH, MOVING INTO THE UNIT TO THE LEFT OF THE MAIN STRUCTURE OF BUILDING ONE.

THE THIS IS, AGAIN, THIS UNIT IS OCCUPIED BY A TENANT AT THIS TIME.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

MOVING INTO THE BATHROOM, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME WORK DONE TO THE PLUMBING AS WELL AS, UH, SHEET ROCK THAT IS STARTING TO SEPARATE ITSELF FROM THE STRUCTURE ITSELF.

NOW MOVING INTO ACCESSORY MAIN BUILDING NUMBER TWO, THIS IS GONNA BE THE FRONT ELEVATION.

ALONG THE LEFT SIDE, YOU CAN SEE THE STAIRWAY IS NOT GOING ALL THE WAY DOWN.

IT DOES STOP AT THE SIDEWALK, AS WELL AS THE SECOND LANDING IS BUILT AROUND THE TREE UNDERNEATH THAT AREA, YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S NOT PROPERLY CONNECTED TO THE STRUCTURE ITSELF.

AND THERE'S SEPARATION.

NOW, THIS PHOTO WAS TAKEN FROM THE LEFT REAR ELEVATION.

UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE SECOND FLOOR IS STICKING OUT ABOUT TWO FEET FROM THE FIRST FLOOR WALL.

SIGNS OF WORK BEING DONE ON THIS PROPERTY.

YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THIS PHOTO HERE.

THIS IS A BETTER PHOTO OF WHERE IT DOES STICK OUT THE SECOND FLOOR.

BUT YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A LARGE SEPARATION THAT RUNS FROM THE BOTTOM GOING TO THE TOP WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE ROOF SYSTEM IS STARTING TO SEPARATE AS WELL.

NOW HERE'S AN OVERALL PICTURE OF THIS, OF THE REAR ELEVATION AND THIS PHOTO HERE YOU CAN SEE DAMAGE TO THE EXTERIOR WALLS.

YOU CAN SEE EXPOSED WOOD MEMBERS.

UH, ELECTRICAL IS EXPOSED AS WELL.

WATER HEATERS ARE DAMAGED.

UM, THEY'RE NOT PROPERLY SITTING CORRECTLY.

NEXT PHOTO, PLEASE.

A CLOSER LOOK WHERE ONE OF THE WATER HEATERS ARE AT.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY'VE PUT SOME SUPPORT UNDERNEATH TO PREVENT IT FROM FALLING DOWN COMPLETELY.

NOW FURTHER AWAY PICTURE, YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY'VE SHIMMED THE FOUNDATION AND THIS IS RUNNING FROM ONE SIDE ALL THE WAY ACROSS TO THE OTHER SIDE ALONG THE REAR ELEVATION.

YOU CAN ALL SEE THAT THERE'S BEING WORK DONE.

IT APPEARS THAT MAYBE THEY'RE GETTING READY TO START DOING SOME PLUMBING WORK.

UH, AT THIS TIME, I WASN'T ABLE TO VERIFY THAT BECAUSE OF THE RAIN ALONG THE LEFT SIDE OF THE REAR ELEVATION.

AGAIN, IT'S SHOWING THAT THIS BEAM IS NOT SITTING CENTERED ON THAT POST AND IS AT THE EDGE OF IT, AS WELL AS THEM SHIMMING THE, THE, THE BEAM ITSELF FOR THE FOUNDATION.

AND YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT SOME PLUM WORK HAS BEEN DONE AND THERE IT'S NOT PROPERLY CAPPED OFF, UH, GOING UNDERNEATH THE FOUNDATION, THIS BEAM RIGHT HERE DOES STOP ON THAT PILLAR.

AND THERE'S, IT DOESN'T CONTINUE RUNNING ACROSS.

ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THIS PHOTO, THAT ONE PILLAR, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE, THE REBAR IS STICKING OUT AND IT, IT APPEARS THAT IT'S ACTUALLY HELPING SUPPORT THAT FOUNDATION ON THAT LEFT SIDE OF THIS PHOTO.

DIFFERENT ANGLE, AGAIN, JUST SHOWING

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THAT THEY'VE SHIMMED THE PILLAR, THE BEAMS. AND THAT DOES RUN THROUGHOUT THE FOUNDATION FROM WHERE I WAS ABLE TO GET THESE PHOTOS AT.

AGAIN, JUST SHOWING THAT THAT BEAM DOESN'T RUN ALL THE WAY ACROSS FOR THE FOUNDATION ITSELF.

MOVING INSIDE, THESE PHOTOS WERE TAKEN FROM OUR INITIAL INSPECTION.

AT THE TIME OF MY RE-INSPECTION, THE OWNERS DID NOT ALLOW ME TO GO INSIDE OF THE STRUCTURES, SO I'M ONLY GONNA HAVE UPDATED EXTERIOR PHOTOS AT THIS TIME.

BUT GOING INSIDE YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY'VE BLOCKED OFF THE REAR DOOR.

UH, ALONG THE BACKSIDE OF THIS PHOTO HERE, THIS UNIT IS NOW OCCUPIED.

WE HAVE, WE HAD N H S D GO OUT TO THE PROPERTY ON OUR INITIAL INSPECTION, AS WELL AS OUR SECOND INSPECTION IN FEBRUARY TO OFFER ASSISTANCE TO THE TENANTS.

AND ANYONE ELSE THAT'S ON THE PROPERTY, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S BEEN NEW PLUMBING THAT'S BEEN DONE.

UH, MOVING INTO THE SECOND FLOOR, THIS TARP HERE IS COVERING THE DOOR THAT IS LEADING TO THAT SECOND FLOOR WHERE THERE'S SEPARATION.

I WASN'T ABLE TO GO IN THERE.

I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S ACCESSIBLE NOW, UH, IF IT STILL REMAINS IN THE SAME CONDITION.

'CAUSE AGAIN, I WASN'T ABLE TO GO BACK IN THERE TO DO, GET UPDATED INTERIOR PHOTOS.

A CLOSER LOOK OF THE WINDOW UNIT SHOWING THAT THEY SPLICED IT TO GET THIS RUNNING, MOVING INTO THE SECOND UNIT TO THE RIGHT SIDE.

JUST GOING THROUGH IT.

NEXT PHOTO, PLEASE.

AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY'RE DOING SOME SHEET ROCK WORK AS WELL AS RIGHT UNDERNEATH WHERE THE, UH, WINDOW UNIT'S AT.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S SOME DAMAGE TO THE SHEET ROCK, THE CEILING SHEET ROCK AS WELL.

MOVING INTO THE FIRST ACCESSORY, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IS A LARGE AMOUNT OF DEBRIS SURROUNDING IT, SO I'M NOT ABLE TO GET ANY CLOSER TO THIS ACCESSORY THAN FROM THIS POINT, UM, UNLESS I'M CRAWLING ON ITEMS. BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT THE EXTERIOR WALLS ARE DAMAGED, ROOF SYSTEMS COMPROMISED, AND IT IS ALSO HAVE LARGE HOLES IN THE ROOF SYSTEM, WHICH ALLOWS THE ELEMENTS TO GO INSIDE.

NEXT PHOTO, THERE'S A, A FURTHER PICTURE SHOULD SHOWING THE AMOUNT OF DEBRIS THAT'S SURROUNDING THIS ONE STRUCTURE AND THE COMPROMISED ROOF SYSTEM AT ONE, AT ONE ANGLE.

FROM MY INITIAL INSPECTION, I WAS ABLE TO GET A PICTURE, AND THIS IS WHAT THE INTERIOR LOOKS LIKE, WHICH HAS A LOT, A LARGE AMOUNT OF DEBRIS INSIDE YOU CAN SEE ROTTING DETERIORATION TO THE ROOF SYSTEM, AS WELL AS THE WOOD MEMBERS AS WELL.

NOW, MOVING INTO THE SECOND ACCESSORY, IT IS A METAL SIDING THAT HAS SOME DENT, SOME DENTS SURROUNDING IT, BUT THE STRUCTURE ITSELF IS CURRENTLY RESTING ON PALLETS, AND THE PALLETS ARE STARTING TO SINK INTO THE GRADE.

NEXT PHOTO.

IS THIS A DIFFERENT ANGLE FROM THE BACKSIDE OF THE STRUCTURE? AGAIN, JUST SHOWING THAT IT IS CURRENTLY ON PALLETS, WHICH IS SINKING IN THE GRADE.

OKAY, MOVING INTO THE ACCESSORY NUMBER THREE, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE EXTERIOR SIDING IS STARTING TO DETACH.

IT'S ROTTED, IT'S DETERIORATED, STARTING TO FALL AND COLLAPSE.

HERE'S GONNA BE A PICTURE OF THE LEFT SIDE.

YOU CAN SEE IT'S CORRUGATED METAL.

YOU CAN SEE IT DOES NOT RUN ALL THE WAY DOWN, WHICH IS EXPOSING THE BOTTOM PORTION TO THE INTERIOR.

INTERIOR.

THIS IS GONNA BE THE RIGHT SIDE SHOWING THAT THIS WHOLE ENTIRE WALL, AS WELL AS HALF OF THE ROOF SYSTEM IS COMPLETELY GONE FROM A DIFFERENT ANGLE.

JUST SHOWING THAT THERE IS A LARGE, A LARGE AMOUNT OF DEBRIS INSIDE THAT STRUCTURE AS, AS WELL.

MOVING INTO THE ACCESSORY NUMBER FOUR, YOU GOT DETERIORATION TO THE SIDING AS WELL AS TO THE ROOF SYSTEM.

THEY'VE PUT SOME PLYWOOD UP IN DIFFERENT AREAS, WHICH IS STARTING TO DETACH FROM THE STRUCTURE AS WELL.

IN THIS PHOTO HERE, THIS EX, THIS WIRE THAT YOU SEE RUNNING IS LIVE, AND IT DOES CONNECT TO THE MAIN STRUCTURE, BUT IT'S JUST SHOWING THAT THEY'VE SPLICED INTO IT TO EXTEND THAT, THAT WIRE.

UM, WHEN I WAS FOLLOWING THE WIRE, IT DOES GO INTO TREES, BUT I DON'T KNOW, I COULDN'T SEE WHAT IT ELSE WAS CONNECTED TO AT THAT POINT.

AGAIN, THE ROOF SYSTEM WHERE FROM A CERTAIN ANGLE I WAS ABLE TO GET CLOSE TO IT, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE ROOF SYSTEM IS DETERIORATING, ROTTED, UH, SHOWING SIGNS OF WATER DAMAGE, UH, AS WELL AS A LARGE HOLE, ALLOWING THE ELEMENTS TO GO INSIDE.

NOW TURNING AROUND FROM THAT SAME PICTURE, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S TWO MORE ACCESSORY STRUCTURES.

THIS ISN'T BE ACCESSORY, FIVE AND SIX FIVE'S ON THE LEFT ACCESSORY, SIX IS ON THE RIGHT, BUT AGAIN, THE DUE TO THE AMOUNT OF DEBRIS, IT MADE IT VERY

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DIFFICULT FOR ME TO GET CLOSER TO THE STRUCTURES ITSELF.

AND THE, AND THE PHOTO HERE TO THE LEFT, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE EXTERIOR WALL ROOF SYSTEM IS COMPROMISED.

THE, THE WALL ITSELF IS DETERIORATING, ROTTING, ALSO HAS LACK OF WEATHER PROTECTION.

THERE'S A, A CLOSER LOOK OF IT, UM, OF ME ZOOMING IN A LITTLE BIT MORE FROM A DIFFERENT ANGLE.

WALKING AROUND TO THE RIGHT SIDE, YOU CAN SEE THAT AGAIN, THAT THE, THE WALL ITSELF IS COMPROMISED.

UH, THERE'S PARTS THAT ARE MISSING.

UH, I HAD TO GO ACTUALLY INTO THE ALLEY TO GET THIS PHOTO.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THE ENTIRE WALL'S GONE.

THE WOOD MEMBERS ARE EXPOSED, UH, SIGNS OF IT STARTING TO COLLAPSE.

DUE DETERIORATION IN ROT.

AND FROM THE ALLEY, I WAS ABLE TO GET CLOSE ENOUGH TO GET A PICTURE.

INSIDE.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S A, A POST HERE THAT'S HOLDING UP THE ROOF SYSTEM FOR SUPPORT AS WELL AS A LARGE AMOUNT OF DEBRIS SURROUNDING THAT INSIDE.

MOVING INTO THE LAST ACCESSORY, NUMBER SIX, AGAIN, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, UM, ME HAVING TO WALK AROUND JUST SHOWING THAT THERE'S A LARGE AMOUNT OF DEBRIS.

IF THERE'S ANYONE INSIDE, IT'S GONNA IMPOSE AN EGRESS CONCERN, WHICH ALSO MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR ME TO WALK THROUGH THIS AREA.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THE EXTERIOR WALL IS COMPROMISED, ROOF SYSTEMS COMPROMISED.

HERE'S A CLOSER LOOK OF THE ROOF SYSTEM SHOWING DETERIORATION TO THE WOOD MEMBERS, AS WELL AS THE, UH, ROOF COVER FROM THE BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER.

I WAS ABLE TO GET THIS PICTURE BECAUSE THERE WAS A HOLE IN THE EXTERIOR WALL.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST TAKEN FROM THE GRADE.

LOOKING UP, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE ROOF SYSTEM IS COMPROMISED AS WATER DAMAGE, DETERIORATION, ROT, AS WELL AS A LARGE AMOUNT OF DEBRIS INSIDE THE STRUCTURES LOCATED AT 1 0 7.

HARDWOOD DRIVE ARE IN VIOLATION OF CITY CODE.

ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER SIX DASH 1 56.

SUBSECTIONS FOR THE MAIN BUILDING ONE ARE 1, 2, 7, 8, 11, 12, AND 15.

MAIN BUILDING TWO ARE 2, 5, 7, 8, 12, AND 15.

ACCESSORY ONE ARE 1, 2, 5, 7, 8, 11, 12, AND 15.

ACCESSORY TWO ARE SEVEN, EIGHT, AND 15.

ACCESSORY THREE ARE 1, 2, 7, 8, 11, 12, AND 15.

ACCESSORY FOUR ARE 2, 7, 8, 11, 12, AND 15.

ACCESSORY FIVE IS 1, 2, 7, 1, 2, 5, 7, 8, 11, 12, AND 15.

AND ACCESSORY SIX IS 1, 2, 7, 8, 11, 12, AND 15, WHICH ANY BUILDING OR STRUCTURE, WHICH HAS ANY OR ALL THE CONDITIONS OR DEFECTS HERE AND AFTER DESCRIBED, SHALL BE DEEMED TO BE A DANGEROUS BUILDING AND A HAZARD TO PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE, PROVIDED THAT SUCH CONDITIONS OF DEFECTS OR DILAPIDATION SUB NESS OR UNFIT FOR HUMAN HABITATION POSE A THREAT OR POTENTIAL THREAT TO LIFE, HEALTH, PROPERTY AND HUMAN SAFETY STAFF RECOMMENDS DEMOLITION TO THE MAIN STRUCTURES AND DEMOLITION TO ALL ACCESSORY STRUCTURES WITH THE PROPERTY, BE VACATED, SECURED, AND ALL UTILITIES BE DISCONNECTED FROM THE PROPERTY.

THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION FOR 1 0 7 HARDWOOD DRIVE.

DOES THIS BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE CODE OFFICER? UH, YES.

LANCIA, START PLEASE.

OFFICER MARTINEZ, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR ACCESSORY.

UM, WELL, THE STORAGE UNIT TWO, JUST HAVE A QUESTION AS FAR AS LIKE THE CODE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR YOU HAVE SEVEN, EIGHT, AND 15, UH, DO YOU HAVE A CONSIDERATION FOR 12? BECAUSE USUALLY WHEN YOU'RE ASKING FOR A DEMO, 12 IS ALSO CONSIDERED AS WELL.

SO THOSE, WHEN IT'S A DEMO, 12 AND 15 ARE IN TANDEM WITH EACH OTHER? YES.

I WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER THAT AS WELL.

OKAY.

SO, ALL RIGHT.

SO FOR ACCESSORY STORAGE TWO, IT'LL BE 7, 8, 12, AND 15.

THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS.

YES.

BOARD ACCESSORY TO THEN, FOR THE BOARD IS 7, 8, 12, AND 15.

YES.

OKAY.

LINDA, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? GO AHEAD.

NO, UH, I, AGAIN,

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I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF, UM, IF THERE'S ANY, UM, CHILDREN OR VULNERABLE ELDERLY, MR. CHAIR, I APOLOGIZE.

THIS IS LEGAL.

I, I JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE.

UM, WE ARE RECORDING.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE NECESSARILY HAVE THE LIVE STREAM, BUT WE DO HAVE THE RECORDING.

SO IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE ARE USING OUR MICROPHONE SO IT CAN BE HEARD.

SORRY, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF THERE WAS CHILDREN OR, UM, ELDERLY LIVING IN THE PROPERTY FOR THE MAIN BUILDING.

TWO, THERE WERE FOUR CHILDREN LIVING WITH THE TENANTS IN THAT UNIT.

I DID HAVE N H S D OUT THERE AS WELL.

AGAIN, OFFERING SERVICES, N H S D DID TELL ME THAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY COMMUNICATING WITH THE TENANTS AND TRYING TO HELP 'EM RELOCATE AT THIS TIME.

UH, YES.

IS ROBERT TOPIA, YOU MENTIONED THE ALLEYWAY.

HAS ANY OF THIS DEBRIS EXTENDED INTO THE ALLEYWAY? ARE YOU ABLE TO DRIVE THROUGH THERE? YOU ARE ABLE TO DRIVE THROUGH THE ALLEYWAY AND THE DEBRIS IS CURRENTLY REMAINING IN THE PREMISES ITSELF.

SO IT HASN'T EXTENDED ONTO THE ALLEYWAY AT THIS TIME.

YEAH.

MR. ANDES? YEAH, THIS IS FRED ANDIS.

I DIDN'T KNOW ANY NOTES ON HERE.

SO WE'RE NOT SURE WHEN DID IT ACTUALLY START? THERE'S NO NOTES IN HERE AT ALL.

UH, THE NOTES STARTED WHEN I DID MY INITIAL INSPECTION, WHICH IS NOVEMBER 15TH, 2020.

AND DUE TO THE CONDITIONS OF STRUCTURE, WE, WE WENT AHEAD AND PUSHED US THROUGH AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

SO THERE SHOULDN'T BE, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A LARGE AMOUNT OF NOTES ON THIS PROPERTY 'CAUSE YEAH, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IS THERE'S NO NOTES EVEN IN OUR, THE NOTES AREN'T IN, IN OUR CASE.

OKAY.

SO IF YOU COULD UPDATE AND PUT 'EM IN.

YES, I CAN LOOK INTO THAT.

'CAUSE I DID, I DO HAVE THE NOTES IN THE SYSTEM HERE.

I'M JUST NOT SURE.

YEAH, THEY'RE NOT IN THE, SO THAT'S WHY I ASKED.

SO IT'S 2020.

YES.

NOVEMBER 15TH, 2020 IS WHEN I MADE MY INITIAL INSPECTION.

WERE YOU AWARE OF THE PROPERTY PRIOR TO THAT? THIS WAS A DART PROPERTY, SO WHEN WE DID GO, WE DID GET WORD FROM IT AND WE MOVED FORWARD ON IT.

PRIOR TO 2020.

PRIOR TO 2020 TO 2020 NOTES OR NO, NO, NO.

PRIOR TO 2020 BEFORE YOU STARTED PUTTING IN NOTES? NO, THIS WAS, I'M SORRY, 2022 IS WHEN I WENT OUT THERE.

OKAY.

YEAH.

'CAUSE YOU SAID 2020.

YES.

IT'S 2022.

OKAY.

2022.

SO PRIOR TO THAT, YOU GUYS HAVE, THERE WAS NOTHING ABOUT THIS UNTIL IT HIT YOUR RADAR IN 2022.

2022.

YES.

DID YOU LOOK AND SEE IF THEY HAD PERMITS EVER PULLED FOR THE BUILDINGS AND SOME OF THE STRUCTURES? I DIDN'T SEE ANY PERMITS AT ALL ON THE, FOR THIS LOCATION.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I, I JUST WANTED TO SEE THE SLIDES WITH THE NUMBERS AGAIN.

PLEASE SAY IT AGAIN 'CAUSE I DID NOT HEAR IT.

THE, THE SLIDES WITH THE NUMBERS.

IF WE, IF WE CAN SEE THEM AGAIN? YES.

OH, THIS ONE HERE? YEAH.

DO YOU NEED THE MAIN ALSO? OKAY.

YEAH, I NEED THE MAIN AND THEN THE LAST ONE.

AND THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU.

OFFICER FLORES, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME UP, IF YOU WOULD STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR, UH, STATION NUMBER OR LOCATION.

YES, SIR.

OFFICER.

HI FLORES.

I'M WITH THE SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT OF SAFE UNIT HERE IN CENTRAL.

AND, UH, 1 0 7 HARWOOD IS IN MY DISTRICT AREA THAT I PATROL.

AND ALSO ANSWER TO THE CONSTITUENTS COMPLAINING ABOUT THIS, UH, ADDRESS.

AND, UH, THE, IF YOU WOULD JUST GO AHEAD AND GIVE YOUR TESTIMONY ON THE CASE.

OKAY.

AT 1 0 7, HARDWOOD CAME BY TO MY ATTENTION BY, UH, DISTRICT PATROL OFFICERS SAYING THAT, UM, THERE'S BEEN SOME, SEVERAL CALLS OUT OF THERE INVOLVING, UM, DISTURBANCES WITH A KNIFE, SHOTS FIRED, A LOT OF FAMILY VIOLENCE, AND, UH, ALSO CHILDREN IN, IN, IN THE HOME.

THAT, UM, THE, THE, THE WHOLE PROPERTY WAS, UH, IT IS VERY DANGEROUS FOR, UH, PEOPLE

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LIVING THERE AND ALSO THE STRUCTURE.

AND THAT'S WHAT IT CAME TO ATTENTION ALSO WITH THE CODE COMPLIANCE, UH, UNIT.

AND, UM, MAIN THING IS, UH, THE, THE NEIGHBORS AND EVERYTHING, UH, DO COMPLAIN ABOUT THIS ADDRESS BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF VEHICLES THERE AND A LOT OF, UH, DEBRIS AROUND THERE, WHICH IS A FIRE HAZARD FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO EVEN GO IN THERE TO ASSIST.

AND, UH, AND I HAVE WITNESSED CHILDREN LIVING AT, AT THESE, UM, BUILDINGS, WHICH IS, UH, TO ME IS NOT, YOU KNOW, HABITABLE FOR PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THE DESTRUCTION ALMOST FALLING OFF AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

THAT'S WHEN, UH, CODE, UH, MADE A VERY THOROUGH INSPECTION.

AND THE, UM, THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE NOT TOO COOPERATIVE WITH THE CITY, UH, CODE COMPLIANCE.

UM, THEY MADE COMMENTS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, THEY DON'T HATE THE POLICE, IT'S JUST THE CODE BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY HAVE A LOT OF CODE VIOLATIONS, WHICH, UH, I HAVEN'T SEEN NO IMPROVEMENTS.

UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IMPROVE, UH, CODE VIOLATIONS TO ME.

I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, THAT'S WHEN THE EXPERT, UH, CODE COMPLIANCE UNIT COMES IN AND, UH, THEY ADDRESSED THROUGH ALL EVERYTHING TO THEM.

AND, UM, AND, UM, I KNOW ALL THE SLIDES, I DON'T HAVE ANY SLIDES OR ANYTHING, BUT I DO HAVE, UH, SATELLITE PICTURES OF THIS ADDRESS.

AND, UM, IF I CAN INTRODUCE THESE TWO PICTURES, IT IS JUST, UH, BA JUST BASED ON THE CALLS OVER, UH, 55 CALLS SINCE, UH, 2019 TO THIS DATE, TO THIS JUST SINGLE ADDRESS.

THAT WAS SINCE NOVEMBER OF, UH, IT WAS, UM, THE FIRST ONE, WELL, I JUST WENT BACK TO, UH, APRIL 20TH, 1919 TO THANK YOU.

YES, SIR.

HOW MANY CALLS WAS THAT? OVER 55.

OVER 50 FROM 2019 TO WHAT? TO THIS DATE? TO THIS DATE, YES, SIR.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

BASED ON THE RESEARCH OF, AH, MY, THE DATA WE HAVE AND, UH, LEMME SHOW YOU THESE TWO PICTURES.

UH, LIKE I SAID, I DON'T HAVE ANY SLIDES, BUT THIS IS JUST SATELLITE PICTURES OUT THE, UH, OF GOOGLE MAPS.

WE WERE ABLE TO SEE THEM, UH, OFFICER EZ, UH, BOARD NEED TO SEE THEM AGAIN.

NO, THAT'S FINE.

IT'S YOU, YOU CAN, YEAH.

OKAY.

SHE WAS SHOWING TO THEM.

WE'VE GOT MONITORS THAT WE CAN SEE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THAT'S WHY IT CAUGHT MY ATTENTION BECAUSE IT, IT, IT STANDS OUT COMPARED TO ALL THE HOMES IN THE AREA.

AND ACTUALLY, IF, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND PUT THEM BACK DOWN AND MAKE A COMMENT, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE IT ON THE SCREEN ALSO AS THEY PUT IT ON OUR SCREEN.

OH, OKAY.

YOU CAN LOOK AT THE BIG SCREEN OR IF THERE'S SPECIFIC COMMENTS YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE ABOUT THEM.

MM-HMM.

, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT ALSO DRAW TO MY ATTENTION AS TO WHY DO YOU NEED THIS.

OKAY.

THE BOTTOM.

I, I CAN, OKAY, SORRY ABOUT THAT.

WE HAD TECHNICAL MALFUNCTION BACK TO THESE PICTURES THAT, THAT CAUGHT MY ATTENTION.

UH, BECAUSE I, I AM THE SAFE OFFICER, WHICH IS COMMUNITY POLICING.

AND, UH, WE DO EVERYTHING AS FAR AS, UH, WE FOLLOW UP ON, ON, UH, WHY THIS ADDRESS HAS A LOT OF CALLS AND IT MIGHT BE A CONCERN TO OTHER CONSTITUENTS 'CAUSE EVERYBODY'S TAXPAYERS AND THEY'RE CONCERNED BECAUSE THIS AREA RIGHT HERE, THIS HOME, YOU CAN TELL THERE'S A LOT OF DEBRIS AND THIS, IT, IT STANDS OUT.

IT STANDS OUT.

AND THEN AS WE DID THE INSPECTIONS WITH COAT THAT, AND THEY ALSO, WHEN ALL THESE PHOTOS CAME FROM, AND IT, YOU CAN BARELY WALK AROUND AND THERE'S A ALSO, UM, ANIMAL CARE SERVICES, UH, ALSO MADE LOCATION AND THEY FOUND SOME ANIMALS THAT ARE NOT WELL TREATED AT THIS LOCATION.

UM, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S MY MAIN THING ON THESE PICTURES THAT IT CAUGHT MY ATTENTION BECAUSE IT IS CONCERN TO ALL THE CONSTITUENTS IN THE AREA PANEL.

HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS PHOTOGRAPH? GO AHEAD, OFFICER FOREZ, IF YOU WOULD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

BOARD DANGEROUS PREMISES.

JOSHUA MARTINEZ.

I JUST GOT, UH, I JUST CONFIRMED THAT BEFORE, PRIOR TO THE DA, THE DART INSPECTION, THERE WAS 40, UH, CODE VIOLATIONS, UH, CASES THAT WERE, THAT WERE ADDRESSED AT THIS PROPERTY BEFORE MY INSPECTION HAD STARTED.

OVER WHAT PERIOD OF TIME, IF YOU COULD PLEASE.

THAT WOULD BE WITHIN A TWO YEAR PERIOD.

THANK YOU.

ONE MORE, UH, QUESTION.

THIS IS, UH,

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MR. ANDES, I NOTICED ANYTHING AND, AND BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE NOTES, I DID NOT HEAR YOU ASK OR EVEN IMPLY THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN A, UM, TEMPORARY REMOVAL VACATE.

WE DID NOT, UH, ISSUE A NOTICE OF VACATE AT THE TIME.

AT THIS TIME, ARE YOU ASKING, UH, WE ARE ASKING NOW.

YES.

SO FOR THE RECORD, YOU WANNA AMEND TO ALSO PUT THAT IN THERE , HE DID THIS.

HE DID? MM-HMM.

? YEAH, BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN THE NOTES AND I DIDN'T HEAR, BUT HE, HE BRIEFED IT.

YES.

I AM ASKING THAT, THAT THE STAFFERS RECOMMENDING THE, UH, ASKING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR STAFF IS GONNA BE DEMOLITION TO THE MAIN STRUCTURES, DEMOLITION TO THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURES WITH THE PROPERTY, BE VACATED, SECURED, AND ALL UTILITIES BE DISCONNECTED FROM THE PROPERTY.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE CALL OFFICER? THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU MR. NEIL, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME FORWARD.

YES.

AND IF YOU WOULD STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR, UH, BUSINESS ADDRESS.

UH, MY NAME IS JAY NEIL.

MY OFFICE ADDRESS IS 3 22 WEST WOODLAWN, SAN ANTONIO.

ZIP CODE 7 8 2 1 2.

I AM AN ATTORNEY AND I HAVE BEEN RETAINED BY FELIX AND JOY SUAREZ IN THIS MATTER.

OKAY.

FIRST THING, I THINK THAT EVERY, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE MR. HILL, MAKE SURE YOU STAY, UH, WITH THE MICROPHONE BECAUSE WE HAVE A HARD TIME HEARING AGAIN OTHERWISE, OKAY? GOT, THANK YOU SIR.

ALRIGHT.

IF I BACK AWAY, JUST LET ME KNOW.

UM, FIRST THING EVERYBODY NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND, MY CLIENTS ARE 82 YEARS OLD.

OKAY? THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ELDERLY.

SO WHEN THERE WAS NO STATEMENT THAT THERE WERE ELDERLY PEOPLE IN THE PREMISES, THAT'S NOT CORRECT.

MY CLIENTS ARE 82, THEY'RE ON A FIXED INCOME.

ALRIGHT, NOW BEING 82 AND ONE DAY MAYBE WE'LL ALL GET THERE.

YOU, YOU, YOU'RE NOT AS SOPHISTICATED AS YOU THINK YOU ARE.

AND YOU DON'T KNOW THINGS THAT YOU THINK, YOU KNOW.

FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN THE DEPARTMENT WAS OUT THERE, THEY HAD PEOPLE TO TELL THEM ABOUT PROGRAMS THAT WERE AVAILABLE FOR THEM, BUT BECAUSE THEY WERE WITH THE CITY, THE SAME STATEMENT THAT WAS MADE TO THE POLICE OFFICER, THERE'S NO TRUST.

THIS IS THEIR HOMESTEAD.

THEY'VE BEEN LIVING THERE FOR 30 YEARS.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DUE PROCESS.

WHAT KIND OF DUE PROCESS DO THEY HAVE? WELL, WE HEARD ABOUT THE CERTIFIED LETTERS THAT WERE NEVER RETURNED.

UH, WERE SENT BACK UNCLAIMED.

THE NOTICE WAS POSTED ON THE DOOR.

CAN'T THOSE NOTICES BE POSTED ON THE DOOR? WE'VE GOT 40 COMPLAINTS BEFORE THEY EVEN WENT OUT THERE.

THIS DEBRIS AND STUFF DIDN'T HAPPEN WITHIN TWO WEEKS OR THREE WEEKS.

IT HAD BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME.

AND CODE COMPLIANCE HAD KNOWN ABOUT IT, AND YET THEY HAD DONE NOTHING.

AND SO NOW THEY'RE COMING IN WITH THIS EMERGENCY DEMOLITION.

WHERE'S THE DUE PROCESS? WHY CLIENTS DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS TO MAKE THE REPAIRS? MY CLIENTS DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS FOR ME TO BE HERE TODAY.

THEY HAVE HIRED A ENGINEER, BUT THE ENGINEER HAS NOT PERFORMED UP TO THE SERVICES.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE ELDERLY PEOPLE WITH LIMITED UNDERSTANDING.

I HAVE PRESSED UPON THEM THAT WE NEED A CONTRACTOR TO COME IN AND SAY, FROM THEIR POINT OF VIEW, THIS IS GONNA COST YOU X NUMBER OF DOLLARS AND IT'S GONNA TAKE Y TO GET IT DONE AS FAR AS A TIMEFRAME.

THAT'S WHAT THEY NEED.

THAT PROBABLY WILL TELL THEM AFTER LOOKING AT THE PICTURES AND EVERYTHING, THAT THE COST OF THIS IS GOING TO BE COST PROHIBITIVE.

OKAY, SO NOW WE'VE GOT TWO ELDERLY PEOPLE WITHOUT A HOME, IT'S BEING DEMOLISHED AND THEY'RE GONNA BE CHARGED FOR IT TOO.

AND SO WHERE IS THE WIND FOR THEM? THERE IS NONE.

IT WAITED TOO LONG FOR IT TO BE BROUGHT TO THE BOARD'S ATTENTION WAY TOO LONG.

AND DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME, SOMETHING PROBABLY COULD HAVE BEEN DONE.

BUT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT EMERGENCY PROCEEDINGS TO D DEMOLISH A HOME WHERE THEY LIVE, WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO LIVE WHEN THIS ORDER IS ENTERED.

HAS ANYBODY THOUGHT ABOUT THAT? THEY PUT YEARS

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INTO THIS PROPERTY, ALBEIT IT'S NOT, IT'S GOT STRUCTURAL AND ELECTRICAL ISSUES.

EVERYTHING ELSE IS, IS, UM, NOT AS IMPORTANT.

THE STRUCTURAL AND ELECTRICAL ISSUES ARE IMPORTANT, BUT THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE PROFESSIONAL HELP.

THEY'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO ALL THESE THINGS ON THEIR OWN.

YOU SAW IN THE PICTURES, REPAIRS AND STUFF HAD BEEN MADE, BUT WHEN YOU'RE 82 YEARS OLD, YOU JUST CAN'T DO IT ANYMORE.

AND SO THE, THE COMPLAINTS THAT WERE MADE BY THE NEIGHBORS PRE-EXISTED THIS INSPECTION OF NOVEMBER, 2022 FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME, AT LEAST SINCE APRIL OF 2019.

AND SO BECAUSE THE CO COMPLIANCE HAS NOT DONE THEIR JOB TIMELY, NOW THEY'RE PUSHING MY CLIENTS INTO HOMELESSNESS WITHIN 30 DAYS.

WE DON'T THINK THAT THEY'VE BEEN ALLOWED THEIR DUE PROCESS.

WE'RE ASKING THAT THE BOARD ALLOW US 30 DAYS TO HIRE A CONTRACTOR AND GET AN ESTIMATE TO BRING BEFORE THE BOARD.

AND IF THAT ESTIMATE'S TOO HIGH, I'M GONNA TELL YOU THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO AFFORD IT.

WE'VE ALSO LOOKING INTO PROGRAMS THAT ARE OUT THERE.

THE CITY HAS A COUPLE PROGRAMS THAT WILL PAY FOR THESE REPAIRS THAT WERE PRESENTED TO 'EM, BUT THEY DIDN'T TRUST THE CITY I'VE COME IN.

NOW THEY CAN TRUST ME.

THERE'S ALSO HABITAT FOR HUMANITY PROGRAMS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT COULD BE WILLING TO HELP.

WE JUST HAVEN'T HAD THE TIME TO EXPLORE THIS.

I WAS RETAINED LAST FRIDAY ON THIS CASE.

AND SO ALL MY EXPERIENCE AND EVERYTHING I'VE NOT BEEN ABLE TO AFFORD, I'VE NOT BEEN AFFORDED THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE TO THEM YET.

AND SO WE'RE ASKING THAT THIS BE POSTPONED FOR 30 DAYS AND, UM, IF THERE'S ANY INSPECTIONS NEEDED DURING THE INTERIM, THEY WILL BE ALLOWED TO INSPECT WHEREVER THEY WANT.

THEY WILL NOT BE PREVENTED FROM GOING INTO CERTAIN AREAS LIKE THEY WERE BEFORE.

AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'S OUR REQUEST BOARD.

HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? AND WE'LL START LENCIA IF YOU WOULD.

UH, WHAT'S YOUR NAME, SIR? MY NAME IS JAY NEIL.

OKAY, MR. NEIL.

SO I GOT A COUPLE OF THINGS.

THIS IS NOT AN EMERGENCY DEMOLITION.

WE PRESENTED EMERGENCY DEMOLITION EARLIER, SO THIS IS NOT WHAT THAT IS.

A COUPLE, WELL, IT IT A STOP.

LEMME FINISH.

NO PROBLEM.

ALL RIGHT, SO THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR TWO YEARS.

SO THEY'VE, IT'S NOT LIKE CODE DID NOT GIVE THEM TIME.

THEY'VE BEEN GIVEN CODE VIOLATION AFTER CODE VIOLATION, AFTER CODE VIOLATION.

SO THEY'VE HAD TIME TO TRY AND FIX THOSE THINGS.

ANOTHER THING, IT'S NOT THAT CODE DID NOT DO THEIR JOB IN A TIMELY MANNER.

GIVING THEM CODE VIOLATIONS IS GIVING THEM TIME TO FIX THE JOB, TO FIX THE ISSUES.

SO DO NOT PRESENT THAT.

ANOTHER THING, SO THIS IS THE LAST STOP WHEN A RESIDENT HAS AN ISSUE, THIS IS THE LAST STOP.

SO CODE HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THEM, GIVING THEM THE CODE VIOLATIONS, THAT'S GIVING THEM TIME.

SO THAT'S DO NOT PRESENT THAT AS WELL.

SO AS YOUR LAWYER, AS THEIR LAWYER BEING RETAINED, IT IS YOUR JOB TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ISSUE IS.

SO IF THEY GAVE YOU, I GUESS THE PRE-BOARD HEARINGS, YOU SHOULD HAVE READ THAT BEFORE YOU CAME HERE.

SO THIS IS NOT AN EMERGENCY DEMOLITION, THIS IS A DEMO PRESENTATION.

OKAY.

SO UNDERSTAND THAT.

THAT'S IT.

MR, DO YOU'D LIKE TO RESPOND TO HER COMMENTS? I, I THINK SHE MADE EVERYTHING SHE WANTED TO SAY.

VERY CLEAR.

AND WHAT I WOULD SAY IN RESPONSE IS, I JUST HEARD IT WAS A DARK INSPECTION IN NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR.

I DIDN'T HEAR THAT THERE WAS INSPECTIONS IN 2020 THAT I'M, I'M CONFUSED ABOUT.

I DID READ THE DOCUMENTS THAT WERE SUBMITTED.

I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE SITUATION.

I APOLOGIZE MS. HAYES, IF SOMEHOW I OFFENDED YOU, OKAY.

IT WASN'T OFFENDED.

I JUST NEED TO CLEAR SOME THINGS UP FOR YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF MR. NEIL? YES, MS. BROWN.

MR. NEIL? YES MA'AM.

THIS IS A DART CASE.

DART CASES LAST TWO, SOMETIMES THREE YEARS BEFORE THE, THE, UH, COMPLAINANTS COME INTO COURT OR TO, TO US.

YES MA'AM.

SO THEY'VE HAD PLENTY OF TIME TO TRY TO FIX UP OR, YOU KNOW, DO WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY WANTED TO DO WITH THAT PROPERTY.

AND I'D HAVE TO AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUE, THEY CHOSE TO DO NOTHING.

YOU KNOW, I, I UNDERSTAND THEY'RE 82 YEARS OLD, BUT THIS IS, THIS PROPERTY IS, IS NOT IN GOOD CONDITION AT ALL.

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YOU KNOW, AND THEY CHOSE TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO COME IN TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THEM, UH, FOR WHATEVER PURPOSE, I DON'T KNOW.

BUT YOU KNOW, WITH ALL THE, THE TRASH AND DEBRIS THAT IS AROUND THE PROPERTY, AND YOU COULD SEE THAT FROM A VERY GOOD PICTURE FROM THE AERIAL VIEW.

SO THEY, THEY KNEW ABOUT THIS, SO, AND THEN THE CITY HAS OFFERED THEM SHELTER SOMEWHERE BECAUSE THAT'S THEIR JOB TO DO THAT.

SO I DON'T, I DON'T SEE WHAT YOUR, YOUR, UH, POSITION IS.

I'M SORRY.

AND THAT'S FINE.

GO AHEAD.

HOW MANY RENTERS DO THEY HAVE? THEY HAVE ONE, ONE FAMILY.

IT'S ONE PERSON AND THEY HAVE CHILDREN, BUT THE CHILDREN AREN'T PAYING ANY RENT.

RIGHT? SO THERE'S ONE ADULT AND FOUR CHILDREN IN ONE UNIT.

THAT'S MY RECOLLECTION.

WOULD YOU ALLOW KIDS TO LIVE IN THAT PROPERTY? YOUR CHILDREN? MA'AM? I COME FROM A DIFFERENT SOCIOECONOMIC BACKGROUND THAN THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THAT AREA AND MY CLIENTS, I'M IN A DIFFERENT, UM, DIFFERENT MINDSET ALTOGETHER.

UM, WHERE SOMEBODY LIVES IS A PERSONAL CHOICE.

WOULD I HAVE MY CHILDREN LIVE THERE? NO MA'AM.

MAMMAL WOULD NOT, BUT I'M NOT FROM THAT.

I'M NOT, UH, UH, I'M NOT FROM THAT SOCIOECONOMIC CLASS.

IT REALLY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ECONOMICS.

IF IT'S A DANGER TO CHILDREN, WHICH THAT IS.

WHAT OTHER AGES DO YOU KNOW MA'AM? THE AGES OF KIDS? NO, I DO NOT KNOW THEIR AGES, MA'AM.

OKAY, SO IF ONE OF THOSE KIDS GOES OUT INTO ONE OF THOSE BUILDINGS AND PUSHES IN THE RIGHT SPOT AND THE ENTIRE THING COMES DOWN, WHAT HAPPENS? THAT CHILD IS INJURED.

YES MA'AM.

YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

I'M NOT GONNA DENY THAT AT ALL.

BUT SOMETIMES PEOPLE LIVE WHERE THEY CAN AFFORD TO LIVE WITHOUT REGARD TO THINGS OF THAT THAT I WOULD CONSIDER CONCERN MYSELF WITH.

RIGHT? BUT AS A HOMEOWNER, YOUR CLIENTS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR, FOR THE UNITS THAT THEY RENT OUT, THEY'RE COLLECTING MONEY FOR IT REGARDLESS OF HOW MUCH THAT MONEY THAT IS THEY RESPONS.

IT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY.

YES, MA'AM.

NOT GONNA DENY THAT.

SO RESETTING IT 30 DAYS IS YOU IS GIVING 30 MORE DAYS OF KIDS BEING AROUND THAT.

UH, NOT AT THE, NOT AT THERE'S ARRANGEMENTS MADE FOR THE KIDS TO MOVE.

THEY HAVE TRIED TO MAKE THOSE ARRANGEMENTS TO GET THE RENTERS OUT.

OKAY.

AND THAT AND WHO'S THEY? WE, UH, THE CITY.

SO AND SO MY IT'S THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY.

EXCUSE ME.

IT'S NOT THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY.

OH, NO MA'AM.

I'M NOT SAYING IT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY.

I'M SAYING THAT THEY HAVE OFFERED THAT TO THE, TO THE TENANTS.

NO MORE QUESTIONS.

MR. ANDIS, THIS IS FRED ANDIS.

I'M GONNA GO DOWN HERE.

UH, MEMORY LANE HERE.

YOU TESTIFIED EARLIER THAT THIS DIDN'T HAPPEN WITH YOU.

WELL, I'M NOT TESTIFYING.

I'M NOT TESTIFYING.

WELL, YOUR STATEMENT, MY STATEMENT, YES SIR.

BUT I'M NOT UNDER OATH.

WELL, THIS IS A JUDICIAL BOARD.

GO AHEAD AND ASK YOUR QUESTION.

OKAY.

SO YOUR STATEMENT EARLIER, THIS DID NOT HAPPEN IN TWO WEEKS, AND YOU'RE RIGHT.

YES.

WHEN THIS SHOWS SOME REPAIRS BEING DONE ON THE FOUNDATION AND SOME OTHER PARTS, LET ME ASK YOU A REAL FUNDAMENTAL, DO YOU KNOW WHAT BUILDING THEY LIVE IN? YOUR TENANT, YOUR CLIENTS? NUMBER TWO.

NUMBER TWO, WHAT IS THE ACCESS TO THAT BUILDING IF THEY HAVE TO BE REMOVED BY EITHER FIRE DEPARTMENT OR E M SS? UH, I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT.

AND YOU SAID THEY WERE 80 PLUS TWO? YES, SIR.

SO ARE THEY IN GOOD HEALTH? UH, IYE TO THE EXTENT THAT ANYBODY 82 YEARS OLD DIABETIC IS IN GOOD HEALTH, THAT THEY, THEY, UH, AMBULATE FINE.

THEY TALK TO ME FINE.

SO GOD FORBID SOMETHING HAPPENS IN THAT PREMISE AND IT TAKES FOREVER TO GET THEM REMOVED FROM THAT PREMISE.

IS THAT NOT UTMOST AND FOREMOST, THE IMPORTANT THING IS TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE SAFE.

IT IT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE SAFE.

YES, SIR.

AND THE PICTURES YOU SAW TODAY, DOES THAT GIVE YOU THE INDICATION THAT THEY'RE SAFE? I I'M NOT IN A POSITION TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION.

THAT'S WHAT CODE COMPLIANCE, CO COMPLIANCE DOES.

AND THAT'S WHAT A CONTRACTOR WOULD DO.

YES, SIR.

AND YOU JUST SAID IT.

THAT'S WHAT CODE COMPLIANCE DOES, SIR.

AND THAT'S WHAT CODE COMPLIANCE SAYS.

THEY'RE NOT IN A SAFE ENVIRONMENT.

YES, SIR.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER MEMBER HAVE A QUESTION OF THE ATTORNEY? MR. NEIL? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT.

CHAIR RE ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

OH, TOO

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MANY.

PARDON ME? I SAID IT'S TOO MANY FOR ME TO JUST GO AHEAD.

I GOT ONE THIS I'LL MAKE YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION? I GOT IT.

I, I'M READY IF YOU GO AHEAD.

NO, I GOT IT ON .

YOU GOT IT? YEAH, YOU GOT IT.

OKAY, GO AHEAD.

I MOVED AT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1 0 7 HARWOOD DRIVE IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE, WHICH IS NOT FEASIBLE TO RE BE REPAIRED AT THIS TIME AND IS IN VIOLATION OF CHAPTER SIX.

ARTICLE EIGHT SECTIONS 1 5 6 FOR ALL THESE SECTIONS, SUBSECTIONS FOR THE MAIN 1, 1, 2, 7, 8, 11, 12, AND 15 SUBSECTIONS FOR MAIN 2, 2, 5, 7, 8, 12, AND 15 SUBSECTIONS FOR ACCESSORY.

1, 1, 2, 5, 7, 8, 11, 12, AND 15 SUBSECTIONS FOR ACCESSORY 2, 7, 8, 12, AND 15 SUBSECTIONS FOR ACCESSORY.

3 1 2, 7, 8, 11, 12, AND 15 SUBSECTIONS FOR ACCESSORY 4 2 7 8 11 12 15.

SUBSECTIONS FOR ACCESSORY 5 1 2, 5, 7, 8, 11, 12, AND 15 SUBSECTIONS FOR ACCESSORY 6 1 2, 7, 8, 11, 12 AND 15.

I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY BE DEMOLISHED WITHIN 30 DAYS FROM THE ISSUANCE OF THIS ORDER.

ADDITIONALLY, THAT IT IS VACATED, SECURED, UTILITIES ARE DISCONNECTED AND THAT A CONTINUED EFFORT FOR SERVICES BE PROVIDED.

MOTION ON THE TABLE IS FOR A VACATE SECURE UTILITY DISCONNECT AND DEMO IN 30 DAYS AS A RESULT OF VIOLATION OF SAN ANTONIO.

CODE FOR THE MAIN NUMBER ONE SUBSECTIONS, 1, 2, 7, 8, 11, 12, AND 15 FOR THE MAIN NUMBER TWO, SUB CODE 2, 5, 7, 8, 12, AND 15 FOR ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.

NUMBER ONE, SUB CODES 1, 2, 5, 7, 8, 11, 12, AND 15 FOR ACCESSORY NUMBER TWO SUB CODES 7, 8, 12, AND 15 FOR ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.

NUMBER THREE, SUB CODES.

1, 2, 7, 8, 11, 7, EXCUSE ME, 11, 12 AND 15.

UH, FOR ACCESSORY STRUCTURE NUMBER FOUR, SUB CODES 2, 7, 8, 11, 12, AND 15.

AND ACCESSORY STRUCTURE NUMBER FIVE, SUB CODES 1, 2, 5, 7, 8, 11, 12, AND 15.

AND ACCESSORY STRUCTURE NUMBER SIX, SUB CODES 1, 2, 7, 8, 11, 12, AND 15 ANDIA, DID I GET ALL THE MOTION CORRECT? I ALSO IN WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY DO CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE THAT SERVICES ARE PROVIDED TO THE FAMILY.

I'M SORRY, SAY THAT AGAIN.

SERVICES ARE PROVIDED FOR THE FAMILY SERVICES ARE PROVIDED.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

DO I HAVE A SECOND FOR THE MOTION? ROBERT TAPIA.

SECOND.

MR. TAPIA, ANY DISCUSSION BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF STRUCTURES, I'M GONNA ASK FOR A ROLL CALL.

VOTE ON THIS PLEASE.

DWAYNE NELSON.

AYE.

FRED ANDIS.

AYE.

KAYLA MIRANDA.

AYE.

JOEL SOLIS.

AYE.

DR.

LINDA LOPEZ.

RODRIGUEZ.

AYE.

LENCIA HAYES? AYE.

MS. BROWN? AYE.

ROBERT THIA AYE.

MOTION PASSES WITH THE VOTE OF EIGHT TO ZERO.

THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THEN, UH, MR. NEAL, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE GET WITH A CODE OFFICER ALONG WITH YOUR CLIENT IF THEY'RE PRESENT TODAY.

UH, AND THEY WILL GO THROUGH IT.

UH, AS YOU KNOW OR AS I SAID PREVIOUSLY, YOU DO HAVE A RIGHT OF APPEAL IN CIVIL DISTRICT COURT.

SIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

MAY ANY EXCUSE AND OUR NEXT CASE IS GOING TO BE 2107 SAN FERNANDO STREET.

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OKAY.

GOOD MORNING BOARD.

GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING.

HOLD ON JUST A SECOND PLEASE.

YES, SIR.

YOU'RE GOOD.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE DELAY.

FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS CRYSTAL TOWN, DANGEROUS PREMISE OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

THE STRUCTURE BEING PRESENTED TODAY IS LOCATED AT 2 1 0 7 SAN FERNANDO STREET WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR REPAIR IN ACCORDANCE WITH CITY CODE ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER SIX.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME 2 1 0 7 SAN FERNANDO STREET IS BEING PRESENTED BEFORE THE BOARD.

THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION IS N C B 2 3 9 9 BLOCK EIGHT, LOT 12 LOCATED IN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT FIVE.

THE OWNER ON RECORD IS FRANCISCO TOVAR WITH A MAILING ADDRESS OF 2 1 0 7 SAN FERNANDO STREET.

THE FOLLOWING INDIVIDUALS ARE PRESENT TODAY TO SPEAK THE HUSBAND OF THE PROPERTY OWNER, RUBEN ZAPATA, HARRY LIU, AND EDGAR GARCIA.

AND I'M TO SPEAK ALSO OR TO MAKE A COMMENT.

OKAY.

THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION HAS CONFIRMED ON SEPTEMBER 10TH, 2020 1 2 1 0 7.

SAN FERNANDO STREET IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR HISTORIC DESIGNATION.

THE FIRST INSPECTION REGARDING 2 1 0 7 SAN FERNANDO STREET WAS CONDUCTED ON MARCH 3RD, 2021.

ORIGINAL NOTICE WAS MAILED ON AUGUST 24TH, 2021, AND THE CERTIFIED RECEIPT WAS NOT RETURNED.

THE NOTICE WAS MAILED TO THE NEW OWNER ACCORDING TO BEXAR COUNTY APPRAISAL ON OCTOBER 26TH, 2021.

AND THE CERTIFIED RECEIPT WAS RETURNED UNCLAIMED ON NOVEMBER 1ST, 2021.

A PRE-BOARD CONFERENCE WAS SCHEDULED ON AUGUST 29TH, 2022.

THE OWNER OR REPRESENTATIVE DID NOT SHOW ON JANUARY 27TH, 2023.

THE NOTICE FOR THE B S B HEARING WAS POSTED AT 2 1 0 7 SAN FERNANDO STREET ON JANUARY 27TH, 2023.

THE NOTICE FOR THE B S B HEARING WAS MAILED TO FRANCESCA FCA TOVAR.

A WARRANT WAS EXECUTED ON JANUARY 10TH, 2023 TO OBTAIN PHOTOS TO BE PRESENTED TODAY, AS OF THIS MORNING, AN ENGINEER'S LETTER, SCOPE OF WORK AND PROOF OF FINANCIAL MEANS HAS BEEN PROVIDED.

A FOUNDATION REPAIR PERMIT WAS OBTAINED ON NOVEMBER 19TH, 2021 AND HAD EXPIRED.

A NEW FOUNDATION REPAIR PERMIT WAS OBTAINED YESTERDAY, FEBRUARY 8TH, 2023.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THOUSAND FEET OF LANYARD HIGH SCHOOL, DEZA ELEMENTARY AND BARKLEY RUIZ ELEMENTARY.

THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION.

THE ROOF SYSTEM DOES HAVE A SAG.

THE WINDOWS ARE BOARDED UP AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE, ONE OF THE FRONT WINDOWS, THERE WAS AN ATTEMPT TO BE BROKEN IN.

HERE'S A VIEW OF THE LEFT ELEVATION OF THE STRUCTURE.

YOU CAN SEE WHERE SOME FOUNDATION REPAIR WORK HAD BEEN STARTED, BUT IT HAS NOT BEEN COMPLETED.

THIS IS THE RIGHT ELEVATION OF THE STRUCTURE.

UM, AGAIN, THE, UM, DOOR GOING INTO THE, THE RIGHT.

SO SIDE DOOR HAS BEEN BROKEN INTO A LOT BY VAGRANTS AND THE ATTACHED CARPORT DOES HAVE LARGE HOLES.

THIS IS THE REAR ELEVATION OF THE STRUCTURE.

THE WOOD PLANK SIDING LACKS WEATHER PROTECTION.

UM, LARGE PORTIONS HAVE BEEN BOARDED UP WITH PLYWOOD.

AND AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE WHERE, UM, REPAIR WORK HAD BEEN STARTED ON THE FOUNDATION, BUT IT HAS NOT BEEN COMPLETED.

THIS IS GOING INTO THAT RIGHT DOOR, A LARGE AMOUNT OF JUST, UM, CONSTRUCTION MATERIAL.

AND THE FLOOR IS ON LEVEL JUST TO, TO SHOW THE FLOOR IS ON LEVEL.

THERE'S A LARGE GAP BETWEEN GOING INTO THE ROOM TO THE RIGHT AND THAT ROOM GOING, WALKING INTO THE STRUCTURE.

THE SUBFLOOR IS EXPOSED AND THERE IS PLYWOOD COVERING HOLES IN THE FLOOR SYSTEM.

THERE IS A MATTRESS IN THE BUILD STRUCTURE SHOWING THAT SOMEONE IS TRYING TO STAY THERE OR IS STAYING THERE.

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THIS IS THE BACK ROOM AGAIN.

THE SUBFLOOR IS EXPOSED AND THERE IS PLYWOOD COVERING, UM, THE HOLES IN THE FLOOR.

THERE IS A NEW, UM, WALL SYSTEM TO THE RIGHT.

THERE'S NEW STUDS AND NO PERMIT WAS OBTAINED FOR THAT.

THIS IS THE FRONT ROOM AGAIN.

UM, REPAIR WORK HAD BEEN STARTED FOR THE FOUNDATION, BUT IT HAS NOT BEEN COMPLETED.

SO THERE ARE, THERE IS NO FLOOR JOISTS.

THERE ARE NO BEAMS. THERE IS NO POST PLACED AT THIS TIME.

THIS IS THE ROOM TO THE RIGHT.

THEY DID START PUTTING BEAMS, BUT AGAIN, THERE ARE NO POSTS PLACED AT ALL HOLDING UP THE BEAMS. SO THE BEAMS ARE ACTUALLY SITTING ON GRADE AND THE WALL IS BEING TEMPORARY SHORED.

THIS IS, UM, THE BATHROOM AREA.

IT HAS BEEN COMPLETELY GUTTED.

THERE IS A HOLE IN THE FLOOR SYSTEM TO THE LEFT AND YOU CAN SEE SUNLIGHT COMING THROUGH.

2 1 0 7 SAN FERNANDO STREET CONSISTS OF A SINGLE STORY VACANT RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE WITH POSTS AND BEAM FOUNDATION, WOOD PLANK SIDING, AND GABLE ROOF SYSTEM.

THE FOUNDATION HAS BEEN STARTED TO BE REPAIRED BUT NOT COMPLETE.

THE NEW BEAMS ARE SITTING, ALL GRADE CEDAR POSTS HAVE BEEN REMOVED BUT NOT REPLACED.

THE WOOD PLANK SIDING IS MISSING IN SOME AREAS AND THE SHINGLES OF THE ROOF ARE WORN.

TO RECAP, THE STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 2 1 0 7 SAN FERNANDO STREET IS IN VIOLATION OF CITY CODE ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER 6, 1 56 SUBSECTIONS 1 2 8, 11, 12 15 AND 17, WHICH ANY BUILDING OR STRUCTURE WHICH HAS ANY OR ALL OF THE CONDITIONS OR DEFECTS HEREINAFTER DESCRIBED SHALL BE DEEMED TO BE A DANGEROUS BUILDING AND A HAZARD TO PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE.

PROVIDED THAT SUCH CONDITIONS OF DEFECTS OF DILAPIDATION, SUBSTANDARD, OR UNFIT FOR HUMAN HABITATION POSE A THREAT OR POTENTIAL THREAT TO LIFE, HEALTH, PROPERTY OR HUMAN SAFETY STAFF RECOMMENDS REPAIR.

THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION OF 2 1 0 7 SAN FERNANDO STREET.

THANK YOU.

DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE CODE OFFICER? I DO.

MR. ANDES, I'VE GOT SEVERAL.

YOU SAID THERE WAS, UH, DOCUMENTATION PROVIDED FOR THE THREE CRITERIA IT WAS PROVIDED THIS MORNING.

YES.

IT HASN'T MADE IT TO US, JENNIFER.

AND WITH THAT YOU ALSO SAID THEY PULLED THE PERMIT YESTERDAY.

CORRECT.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS WHEN THIS BEING PRESENTED BEFORE THE BOARD, THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE PULLING PERMITS.

THEY'RE ON A FLAG AND THEY GOT TO PULL A PERMIT.

IT WAS A RENEWAL OF A PERMIT.

IS THAT NOT CORRECT? SO IT WAS A NEW PERMIT OBTAINED YOU, A NEW PERMIT OBTAINED.

YOU, YOU ARE CORRECT.

HOWEVER, UM, IT DID HAPPEN AS FAR AS THE DOCUMENTS FOR THE DOCUMENT BOARD, I'M SORRY, THIS IS JENNY RAMIREZ.

UM, WE DO STILL ALLOW PERMITS TO BE PULLED IF THEY CAN GET THE REPAIRS OR THEY CAN GET THE PLAN IN PLACE.

THAT IS THE GOAL BEFORE THEY GET TO THE BOARD.

AND IT'S, IT'S UP TO THE BOARD TO ACCEPT THE PLAN THAT THEY SUBMIT.

BUT WE DON'T, WE DON'T, WE WON'T HOLD THE PERMITS UP UNTIL THE TIME THE BOARD ORDER MAKES AN ORDER.

OKAY.

THAT CONFUSES BECAUSE BEFORE PEOPLE COULDN'T PULL PERMITS BECAUSE THE CASE WAS PENDING BEFORE IT CAME TO US AND THEY WERE NOT ALLOWED TO PULL A PERMIT.

THIS IS, THIS IS A REPAIR RECOMMENDATION.

SO THIS IS WHAT WE ARE ALLOWING FOR THIS CASE AT THIS TIME WITH THE REPAIR RECOMMENDATION, WITHOUT US SEEING THE SCOPE OF WORK AND STUFF.

THAT'S PART OF THE PRESENTATION THAT THE OWNERS SHOULD MAKE.

UM, IF THEY PROVIDE THAT, WHICH THEY ARE RECOMMENDED TO PROVIDE, TO BRING, IF THAT PLAN AT THIS TIME, IT'S ALL, WE ALL, WE ALWAYS WANNA GO AS A LAST RESORT FOR ANY RECOMMENDATION WE'RE MAKING.

SO IF THE OWNERS CAN STEP UP AND MAKE THOSE PLANS AND PUT THOSE PLANS INTO EFFECT, THAT IS ACTUALLY OUR NUMBER ONE GOAL.

I, I HAVE, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT.

I'M SORRY.

GO AHEAD, MS. BROWN.

UM, UM, I, I, YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO AGREE WITH FRED.

YOU KNOW, AT FIRST THEY COULDN'T PULL A PERMIT BECAUSE THEY WERE COMING TO THE BOARD.

NOW THEY CAN PULL A PERMIT, PEOPLE CAN PULL PERMITS IN ORDER TO HAVE REPAIRS DONE.

SO I MEAN THAT, THAT'S CONFUSING TO THE, TO THE PUBLIC AND TO US.

AND I, IT SHOULD BE ONE, Y'ALL SHOULD BE MORE CONSISTENT.

YOU, YOU CAN'T,

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YOU JUST CAN'T HAVE PEOPLE COMING IN HERE PULLING PERMITS AND THEN THEY HAVE A CASE THE NEXT DAY IN FRONT OF US.

YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT JUST TELLS US, OH, WHAT WE NEED TO DO, YOU KNOW.

AND THEN ON, ON THE, UH, MAIN SCREEN WE HAD DILAPIDATED STRUCTURE.

AND AT THE BOTTOM OF THE, UH, WRITTEN, WRITTEN ORDER, THERE'S A REPAIR ORDER.

COMMENT IS NOTED.

HOWEVER, LET'S TAKE THIS SUBJECT TO ADMINISTRATIVE TIME BECAUSE BOTH COMMENTS ARE VALID COMMENTS AND WE WILL DEAL WITH THAT AS PART OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE TIME BECAUSE, UH, YOU'RE CORRECT.

IN TERMS OF OUR TOTAL UNDERSTANDING.

I WILL SAY THIS, THAT THERE WAS A PERMIT DRAWN, WHICH MEANS THAT THERE WAS ACTION, UH, STARTED ON THE BUILDING AND AS A RESULT, THE, THE, UH, EXPIRATION DATE GOT THERE BEFORE THE REPAIR WORK WAS DONE.

SOMEWHAT COMMON.

SENSE OPINION OF BOARD OF THE CHAIR ONLY THAT IF YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING STARTED, YOU MIGHT HAVE A CHANCE TO GO AHEAD AND COMPLETE IT, BUT WE'LL AGAIN, DISCUSS THAT OPINION IN THE ADMINISTRATIVE TIME.

UH, DO WE HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FOR THE CODE OFFICER? IF NOT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.

THANK YOU.

MR. ZAPATA, PLEASE, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME FORWARD.

THAT'S RUBEN.

I APOLOGIZE IF I MISPRONOUNCE THE LAST NAME.

IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, SIR.

UH, GOOD MORNING, MR. MR. CHAIR.

IF WE CAN HOLD JUST ONE SECOND.

I DO BELIEVE THAT, UM, WE'RE GONNA NEED AN INTERPRETER FOR HIM AND WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ONE FOR HIM.

IS THAT CORRECT, MR. ZAPATA? YOU'LL NEED AN INTERPRETER.

SEE? OKAY.

COME RIGHT FORWARD, PLEASE.

YES.

AND WE NEED TO HAVE HIS NAME AND HIS ADDRESS, PLEASE.

OKAY.

UH, MY NAME IS RUBEN ZAPATA.

UH, UH, MY ADDRESS IS ONE.

AND SPEAK IN, SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE AND BRING IT CLOSER TO YOU.

MY, UH, MY, UH, ADDRESS NOW IS, UH, 1 1 34 BY STREET.

THANK YOU.

GO AHEAD AND, UH, PRESENT YOUR CASE, SIR.

OKAY.

UM, I'M, I'M FIXING THE, THE, THE, THE HOUSE AND THE, AND THE 2107 SAN FERNANDO.

YOU CAN SPEAK IN SPANISH, SIR.

SHE WILL INTERPRET.

OKAY.

SO THE PERMIT EXPIRED, SO WE COULD NOT CONTINUE BECAUSE OF THE TIME.

YOU CAN SPEAK INTO THE SO THAT, SO IT'S UP ON RECORD.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO WE KNOW IT'S AGAINST LAW TO CONTINUE WORKING WITHOUT THE PERMIT.

UH, EXCUSE ME.

UM, CAN YOU MAKE SURE THAT HE'S SPEAKING IN THE MIC, UH, SO WE CAN HEAR BOTH THE SPANISH AND ENGLISH VERSION? ARE YOU ABLE TO HEAR THAT? EXCUSE ME JUST A MINUTE.

THE MIC, IF YOU WOULD MAKE SURE THAT HE'S SPEAKING INTO THE MICROPHONE.

SO WE HAD TO STOP THE WORK BECAUSE OF ALL THE DISEASE, BECAUSE ALL, ALL THE DISEASE THAT HAD HAPPENED, WE ARE WILLING TO CONTINUE TO START AGAIN AND TO FINISH THE MASS CONSTRUCTION, THE ROCK.

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SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR.

WE WANNA CLEAR, MAKE IT CLEAR THAT WE'RE GONNA FINISH THE WORK.

WE STARTED BE BY LEVELING THE FOUNDATION.

WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO THE SHEET ROCK.

AND THEN AFTER THAT, EVERYTHING ELSE THAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED SO THAT, UH, WE, WE CAN CONTINUE WITH THE, UM, REPAIRS.

I BELIEVE THAT'S ALL.

OKAY.

THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. ZADA? I DO.

UH, UH, I ASKED, UH, HOW MUCH TIME DOES HE NEED TO FINISH THE WORK TO COMPLETE? EVERYTHING I THINK IS NECESSARY WOULD BE AROUND FEBRUARY OF NEXT YEAR.

DID YOU SAY FEBRUARY OF 2024? YES MA'AM.

HE DID? YES, MA'AM.

SO DO YOU HAVE A, DOES HE HAVE A CONTRACTOR? THE FOUNDATION? I'M DOING MYSELF, THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN WORKING IN FOR THE LAST 40 YEARS.

I'VE BEEN DOING FOUNDATIONS FOR 40 YEARS.

MY QUESTION WAS, DOES HE HAVE A CONTRACTOR FOR EVERY, FOR EVERYTHING ELSE THAT CONTINUES A RENOVATION AND RE REMODELING? YES, I DO.

OKAY.

DID HE, DID HE BRING IN A FINANCIAL REPORT TO SAY HOW MUCH ALL THESE REPAIRS WERE GONNA COST? YES.

THE MAN THAT SOLD ME THE HOUSE, HE'S GONNA LOAN ME THE MONEY TO FINISH THE WORK.

AND WE DO HAVE SOMEONE TO TESTIFY TO THAT.

HUH? WE HAVE A TESTIFY.

OKAY.

BUT DO YOU HAVE A FINANCIAL REPORT TO BRING IN TO TELL US HOW MUCH EACH THING ON YOUR, YOUR, UH, YOUR REPORT, YOUR FINANCIAL, I MEAN, UM, YOUR, UM, SCOPE OF WORK IS GOING TO COST, UH, CS THERE? HE HAS IT HERE, MA'AM.

MR. BROWN.

WHAT? HE HAS THE FINANCIAL REPORT RIGHT HERE.

HE HAS A EXCEL SHEET.

COULD HE, COULD HE GET INTO THE NO, BECAUSE THE MAN'S GONNA LEND ME THE MONEY FOR THE BOARDS FOR INFORMATION.

WE DO HAVE A, A WITNESS THAT WILL BE TALKING ABOUT MONEY.

UH, AND THEN WE MAY BRING HIM BACK UP TO FINISH THE DISCUSSION ABOUT MONEY.

IF YOU DON'T MIND.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF MR. PDA? GO AHEAD.

UM, I GETTING VIVIAN LA I ASKED IF THERE'S ANYONE LIVING IN THE HEL HOUSE.

NO, SHE SHOULD BE SPEAKING TO ME.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

IF YOU WOULD PLEASE TAKE A SEAT.

THANK, UH, HARRY LOU.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF BOTH OF YOU'RE GOING TO COME UP.

IF YOU WOULD STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AND I DON'T, UH, MR. LEW, DO YOU AND JANIE BOTH WANT TO SPEAK INDIVIDUALLY OR ARE YOU GONNA SPEAK FOR BOTH OF YOU? JUST THE ONE OF US.

BE FINE.

OKAY.

JUST THE ONE OF YOU.

VERY GOOD.

IF YOU WOULD PLEASE AGAIN, STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, SIR.

HI, GOOD MORNING.

UH, THE BOARD AND MY NAME IS HARRY.

UH, WE ARE THE PREVIOUS OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY AND, UH, WE BOUGHT FROM BE COUNTY SHERIFF'S SALE AND THE, I, I BELIEVE THE JUNE, 2021 AND BEFORE THAT, AND THE SHERIFF BEAR COUNTY OWNED THE PROPERTY FOR OVER PERIOD, ABOUT TWO YEARS.

AND, UH, WE BOUGHT IT.

WE START TO READY TO PUT A FINANCIAL TOGETHER, AND ALSO WE SAW A SIGN, WHICH IS

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NOTIFIED TO THE PREVIOUS OWNER, BUT WE DIDN'T REACH OUT TO OFFICER CRYSTAL ABOUT THE, UH, REPAIR PLANES WE HAVE FOR THE PROPERTY.

AND JUST ABOUT WHEN WE GET A QUOTE FROM MR. RUBEN ABOUT THE, UH, FINANCIAL, UH, FINANCIAL REPAIRS, AND HE SAID HE WANTED TO MAKE THIS AS HIS HOME.

SO WE GET HIM A REALLY, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ARE, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THEM FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS AND, UH, BUT HE'S ALWAYS WANTED TO HAVE HIS HOME TO, TO BUILD HIS DREAM ON IT.

HE IS A HARD WORKER.

WE KNOW HIM QUITE A WHILE, SO WE PUT A TRUST IN HIM, AND SO IS A VERY, VERY LOW PRICE ABOUT A BEAR TO THE LAND PRICE.

BUT, UH, UM, UH, HE'S GONNA PUT HIS HARD WORK ON IT.

SO HE, HIS BOSS IS ED GARZA, AND HE'S, HE'S WORKING WITH HIM ON THE FINANCIAL REPAIRS FOR MANY YEARS.

SO WE TRUST THAT HE'S GONNA GET EVERYTHING DONE IN PLACE IN TIMELY MANNER, BUT AT THAT TIME, AND WE ARE GONNA BE HANDS OFF TO SEE HOW THE PROGRESS WORKS.

NOW, THEY ONLY, LIKE, UH, LAST WEEK WE RECEIVED A LETTER FROM, UH, CODE OF COMPLIANCE ABOUT THE SITUATIONS HERE.

AND THEN WE'VE BEEN COMMUNICATED WITH HIM EFFECTIVELY.

BUT, UH, HIS LANGUAGE BARRIER WITH US IS VERY, UM, WE'VE BEEN VERY DIFFICULT TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER, BUT, UH, HE IS A GOOD MAN, WE KNOW.

AND, UH, AND WITH ALL THE THINGS THAT WE PUT TOGETHER.

AND THEN Y UH, TEO DAY BEFORE YESTERDAY, AND HIS BOSS START TO CONTACT WITH US.

SO WE GET HIM IN PLACE WHEN WE TALK.

WE PUT A THREE-WAY CONVERSATION, AND THEN WE CAN COMMUNICATE.

NOW, UH, THIS IS A PLAN AND, UH, AND A FINANCIAL, FINANCIAL, UH, IN THERE WE THINK, YOU KNOW, THEY, UH, WE ALWAYS ASK IF YOU NEED AN ADDITIONAL FINANCIAL HELP OR ANYTHING.

HE SAID, NO, NO, NO.

WE HAVE ALL THE MATERIALS.

I HAVE ALL THE MONEY YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT NOW.

BUT, UH, IN CASE FOR THE BOARD.

AND, UH, HIS WIFE, UH, ACCOUNT IS IN FLORIDA, AND WE JUST KNOW WE NEED A FINANCIAL BACKUP FOR HIM.

AND, UH, WE HAVE PUT FORWARD, UH, UH, BASICALLY, UH, A SUPERIOR LOAN PROGRAM FOR THE REPAIR MONEY, A COMMITMENT OF $8,000 IF IT'S NEEDED TO, FOR HIM TO WITHDRAW FUNDS ANYTIME HE NEED.

AND THE END OF THIS PROJECT, WHEN THE FINISHED AND WE WERE MOVED, WE'LL MOVE THAT INTO THE, UH, FIRST LINK OF THE PROPERTY.

SO WE'LL COMBINE EVERYTHING TOGETHER WITH THE ONE OF THE, UH, FINAL NOTE FINANCIAL NOTE.

SO THAT'S HOW THE, UH, OUR PLAN, UH, I, I DO, YOU KNOW, THE, WE DO COMMITTED TO WORK WITH HIM, AND ALSO WE ARE GOING TO BE, SINCE WE ARE GONNA BE ACTIVELY INVOLVED, WE'RE GONNA MONITORING THE PROCESS, PROGRESS EACH STEPS AWAY.

AND ALSO WE'RE, UH, MR. ED GAZA LIKE TO ADD AS A BACKUP CONTACT IN CASE AND ANY SITUATION HAPPENS.

UH, ANY IF NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, SHE'S GONNA SPEAK IN A FEW MINUTES.

AND, UH, IF NEIGHBORHOOD GOING TO HAVE ISSUES OR ANYTHING, AND SHE'S GOING TO CALL ED.

AND IF YOU CANNOT REACH ED FOR SOME REASON, REACH US, WE'LL, WE'LL GIVE THE NUMBER COMMUNICATED.

WE ALREADY EXCHANGE THE NUMBERS, SO WE WILL BE ACTIVELY MONITORING THE SAFETY OF THE PROPERTY AND THEN MONITORING THE WORK, BECAUSE WE'LL PUT MONEY IN AGAIN.

SO WE, WE DO WANT TO BOARD, GIVE HIM A CHANCE TO, UH, REPAIR AND, UH, CONTINUE, UH, MAKE IMPROVEMENTS AND MAKE, UH, MAKE THIS AS HIS SWEET HOME FOR HIM.

AND, UH, FRANCISCO, AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

LET ME ASK YOU A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

SURE.

JUST TO, UH, CLARIFY FOR MY OWN, YOU HAVE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY.

WHAT WAS THE DATE OF THE DEEDED ON THE PROP PURCHASE DATE? UH, IT IS THE, UH, JUNE, UH, I THINK IT'S JUNE 20 SOMETHING.

LET ME LOOK AT IT.

JUNE 8TH, UH, JUNE 7TH, 2022.

YEAH, 2021.

21.

YES.

BUT HE, WE TRANSFERRED IT, WE SOLD TO HIM, TRANSFERRED IT TO HIM ON THE, UH, I THINK IT IS ON THE AUGUST.

OKAY.

SO YOU TRANSFERRED IT BACK TO HIM ON, UH, AUG? ACTUALLY, IT WAS SEPTEMBER THE 14TH.

17TH.

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17TH.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

THE RECORD SAYS, UH, 0 9 17 20 21.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

YES.

UH, AND RIGHT NOW YOU'RE WILLING TO INVEST $8,000.

ARE YOU WILLING TO GO BEYOND THE $8,000? YES.

WHATEVER, UH, HE MAY NEED.

AND THEN, AND HOW MUCH MORE ARE YOU WILLING TO INVEST? RIGHT.

UH, WE, WE, WE, WE ARE THINKING ABOUT, UH, MAYBE ANOTHER, I DON'T KNOW.

AND THEY, UM, WE CAN, WE CAN, WHATEVER THE FUNDS, FUNDS WE NEED, WILL, WILL BE THERE.

AND DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION WITH YOU THAT INDICATES THAT YOU HAVE THE MONEY AVAILABLE TO ACTUALLY FORWARD TO HIM? YES, I DO.

CAN YOU GIVE THAT TO THE CLERKS, PLEASE? YES.

WE HAVE ABOUT MORE THAN $30,000 IN OUR BANK ACCOUNT.

A SECOND.

DOES BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU, SIR.

APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

UH, IF WE COULD ASK BELINDA RIVERA, PLEASE STEP FORWARD.

THAT'S, AND SHE WAS GONNA GIVE HER TIME.

I'M, I'M SORRY.

YOU'LL HAVE TO STEP FORWARD BECAUSE WE CANNOT HEAR YOU FROM THERE.

AND STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE, MR. CHAIR.

MR. CHAIR.

THIS IS LEGAL BEFORE WE, UM, CONTINUE, AND I APOLOGIZE.

UM, I MIGHT BE, IT MIGHT'VE BEEN MY FAULT.

DID MR. LI PROVIDE HIS ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? I DON'T, I, I DIDN'T GET IT.

AND I, I DON'T KNOW IF I, I MIGHT'VE MISSED IT.

I CANNOT GUARANTEE THAT STATEMENT, SO I DID NOT KNOW.

I THINK YOU DID.

JUST FOR THE RECORD, COULD WE D GET THAT PLEASE? YES.

UH, MY, UH, CONTACT MAILBOX IS PO BOX 6 9 0 2 5 4, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 6 9.

MR. LOU, IS THAT, IS THAT ADDRESS, UM, ALLOW YOU TO RECEIVE CERTIFIED MAIL? YES.

THAT'S WHERE WE RECEIVED THE NOTICE FROM THIS TIME.

SO YOU DID RECEIVE A NOTICE? OH, YES.

AT THAT BOX, JUST THE YES.

YES, I HAVE IT.

IT'S DELIVERED ON THE FEBRUARY 2ND, ON THE 2020 THIRD.

BUT THAT'S FINE.

THAT'S, THAT'S, I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

THANK YOU, COUNSEL.

THANK YOU, MR. THANK YOU, LEE.

HI.

I WAS JUST RESPONDING THAT BLANCA RIVERA IS THE PERSON WHO SIGNED IN AND SHE WAS, UH, GIVING ME HER TIME.

MY NAME IS LETICIA SANCHEZ, AND I AM, UH, MY ADDRESS IS 1710 VERACRUZ 7 8 2 0 7.

JUST FOR THE RECORD, SHE HAD SIGNED IN PREVIOUSLY TO SPEAK, SO GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

UM, I'M THE CO-CHAIR PERSON OF THE HISTORIC WEST SIDE RESIDENCE ASSOCIATION, WHICH REPRESENTS RESIDENTS IN DISTRICT FIVE ON THE NEAR WEST SIDE.

THE PROPERTY AT 21 7 21 0 7, SAN FERNANDO IS WITHIN OUR BOUNDARIES, AND OUR ASSOCIATION ASKS THAT YOU ALLOW MS. FCA, TOVA AND HER HUSBAND AN ADDITIONAL SIX MONTHS TO RE REHABILITATE HER HOUSE.

UM, BECAUSE WE WERE NOTIFIED BY THE CITY ABOUT THIS AGENDA ITEM FOR THE FIRST TIME ON FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 3RD, WE'VE NOT BEEN ABLE TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE WITH ANY REMEDIATION TO THIS HOUSE AT THIS TIME.

I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO BUMP INTO MS. MS, UH, MR. ZAPATA YESTERDAY WHEN I STOPPED TO LOOK AT THE PROPERTY.

AND HE EXPLAINED TO ME THAT HE AND HIS WIFE ARE TRYING TO RENOVATE, UM, THE BUILDING, THE HOUSE, BUT HAVE DEALT WITH SEVERAL ISSUES.

UH, FIRST OF ALL, HIS WIFE IS GOING THROUGH CANCER TREATMENT IN FLORIDA.

UM, SO SHE HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO FOCUS ON, UH, REMODELING THE HOUSE.

SECONDLY, MR. SAHA HAS HAD TO SPEND LOTS OF TIME AND MONEY CLEANING UP THE PROPERTY SEVERAL TIMES SINCE PEOPLE HAVE DUMPED TRASH AND JUNK IN THE YARD.

UH, HE HAS ALSO HAD TO DEAL WITH HOMELESS PEOPLE ENTERING THE PROPERTY AND STEALING BOARDS THAT HE PUT UP TO PROTECT THE INSIDE OF THE HOUSE.

MR. ZAPATA HAS SPOKEN WITH SS A P D REGARDING THE TRESPASSING AND STOLEN MATERIALS, AND THAT THEY STATED THAT, UM,

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THEY WILL BE TRYING TO PATROL MORE, DO MORE ACTIVE PATROLLING IN THAT AREA MORE OFTEN.

UM, HE HAS DONE WORK, UH, TO THE STRUCTURE AND WHICH IS, UH, IN OUR OPINION, UH, THE MOST CRITICAL, WHICH IS TO HELP TO LEVEL THE BUILDING AND, AND MAKE IT, UH, UM, STABILIZE THE BUILDING.

UM, UM, I'D LIKE TO STATE THAT I'VE MET AND SPOKEN TO SEVERAL OF OUR RESIDENTS WHO ARE ALSO REHABBING THEIR VACANT HOUSES, WHO HAVE ALSO HAD TO DEAL WITH THE TRESPASSING AND DUMPING ISSUES, AND WHO HAVE ALSO FILED COMPLAINTS TO SS A P D OFFICERS.

THESE ISSUES ARE COSTLY AND THEY MUST PAY.

UM, THEY ALSO HAVE TO END UP PAYING CODE COMPLIANCE FINES FOR TRASH, UH, THAT IS DUMPED ON THEIR PROPERTIES, AND IT'S TIME CONSUMING.

OUR RESIDENTS HAVE LIMITED RESOURCES TO BEGIN WITH, SO I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THEY SHOULD BE PENALIZED AGAIN BY THE CITY WHEN THEY'RE WORKING TO IMPROVE THEIR PROPERTIES.

AND ULTIMATELY, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND OUR CITY, UH, MS. VARS GOAL IS TO MOVE INTO THE HOUSE AT 2107.

SAN FERNANDO ONCE, UH, IT IS RENOVATED AND SHE'S RELEASED FROM HER DOCTOR IN FLORIDA, WE ASK THAT YOU ALLOW HER AND HER HUSBAND AN ADDITIONAL SIX MONTHS TO COMPLETE THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE HOUSE AND TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE HARDSHIPS THAT THEY'VE HAD TO DEAL WITH WHILE WORKING, UH, ON FIXING UP THE HOUSE AS A RESIDENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I CAN ATTEST THAT THE STRUCTURE IS NOT A PUBLIC NUISANCE.

UM, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO STATE THAT OUR ASSOCIATION IS WORKING TO KEEP H HOMES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FROM BEING DEMOLISHED.

WE WANT THEM TO BE IMPROVED SO THAT PEOPLE CAN MOVE INTO THEM.

AS YOU WELL KNOW, THERE'S A MAJOR HOUSING CRISIS IN OUR CITY, AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS EXTREMELY, YOU SAID, JESS, I'M GONNA HAVE TO INTERRUPT YOU.

I'M GONNA HAVE TO ASK YOU TO ADDRESS THIS SPECIFIC PROPERTY ON ME.

OKAY.

WELL, WHAT I'M TRYING TO, I'VE ONLY GOT 30 SECONDS LEFT.

I I THOUGHT I HAD SIX MINUTES.

YOU'VE GOT THREE MINUTES, MA'AM.

AND YOU'VE GOT THREE I, BUT MS. BLANCAS, RAS MINUTES, WE'RE NOT GIVEN TO COUNSEL.

CAN WE DO THAT? NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD UP, WE'RE NOT GONNA BUILD UP MINUTES SO WE CAN DOMINATE THE TIME.

OKAY.

UM, MY POINT IS THAT, UH, WE'VE REACHED OUT TO, UM, MR. SHANNON, UH, MICHAEL SHANNON, UM, AND HAVE ASKED THAT WE, THAT THEY SHARE NO, UH, THE DANGEROUS PREMISE LIST.

I HAVE PRE A LIST FROM THEM, UM, SO THAT WE CAN BE MORE PROACTIVE, PROACTIVE ABOUT HELPING OUR RESIDENTS.

SO I HAVE LISTS HERE FROM OCTOBER 21ST THROUGH DECEMBER 22ND.

THAT'S THE LAST I RECEIVE.

THIS PROPERTY WAS NOT LISTED.

MR. CHAIR, I'M GONNA, RESPECTFULLY, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO STOP THIS.

THIS IS NOT, OKAY.

THIS IS NOT IN REGARDS TO, I WAS JUST GONNA ASK FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE TO HELP US GET, THIS IS NOT IN REGARDS TO 2 1 0 7 SAN FERNANDO.

THIS, THIS IS IN REGARDS TO SOMETHING.

THIS WAS BIGGER.

THE HOUSE WAS, WAS NOT ON THE LIST.

I'M, THANK YOU MS. SANCHEZ.

UM, AND ONE OTHER THING THAT I WANNA STATE IS THAT WE ARE, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO STOP THIS, RIGHT? THIS IS, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO STOP THIS RIGHT NOW.

MA'AM.

THIS IS ABOUT THE FUNDING THAT WEAM MAKE SAN AVAILABLE TO 2107.

THAT'S NOT NOW FOR YOU TO CONTINUE.

WE'RE PART OF THE COMMUNITY LAND TRUST AND, AND THAT MONEY YOU'LL NEED TO STOP, MA'AM, YOU'LL NEED TO STOP.

THANK YOU.

EDGAR GARCIA, PLEASE, IF YOU WOULD STEP FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, SIR, MR. CHAIR, YOU'LL, IF YOU'LL GIVE US JUST A SECOND, WE WANT TO GIVE MR. GARCIA AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A SEAT WHERE HE CAN SIT, UM, SPEAK HE'S MIND.

WE WILL DO THAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

AHEAD AND SIT DOWN.

THANK YOU.

UH, GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS, UH, EDGAR R GARCIA, AND I AM THE, UM, FOUNDATION, UH, CONTRACTOR THAT WAS INVOLVED IN THE, UM, AND THE FIRST, UH, PERMIT THAT WAS, AND IF YOU WOULD GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE.

OH, MY ADDRESS IS 11 0 11 RED BUSH PARK, SAN ANTONIO, 7 8 2 4 7.

THANK YOU.

AND YOU ARE FOUR NINE, I'M SORRY? YOU ARE THE CONTRACTOR OR WHERE THE CONTRACTOR, UH, FOR THE FOUNDATION, YES.

THANK YOU.

GO AHEAD.

ALTHOUGH I'M, BECAUSE OF MY ILLNESS, I'M RETIRED RIGHT NOW, BUT, UH, BUT, UH, BACK THEN I WAS, UM, I WAS VERY ACTIVE, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, IN THE, IN THE WORK.

BUT ANYWAY, I JU JUST AS A, AS A WITNESS OF, OF THE, UH, CONDITION OF THIS, OF THIS HOUSE.

I, I, I, I KNOW THAT THIS HOUSE IS, UH, IS VERY STURDY

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RIGHT NOW AS FAR AS THE, UH, FOUNDATION.

IT HASN'T BEEN COMPLETED, I KNOW THAT.

BUT I DID WITNESS BACK THEN, UH, ALL THE WOOD THAT HE, MR. ZAPATA HAS, UM, REPLACED NOW, UH, A REGULAR FOUNDATION REPAIR.

IT USUALLY TAKES FROM ONE TO TWO WEEKS AND A HOUSE ABOUT THAT SIZE.

BUT IN THIS CASE, IT HAD A LOT OF ROTTED, UH, WOOD AS FAR AS, UH, FLOOR JOISTS, UH, UH, BEAMS. SO HE HAS ALREADY REPLACED AROUND 200 FEET OF, OF FLOOR JOISTS AND ABOUT 180 FEET OF, OF BEAMS. NOW, THE HOUSE HAS, I MEAN, THE FOUNDATION HASN'T BEEN COMPLETED.

OF COURSE, IT NEEDS THE POSTS, BUT IT'S BEEN BLOCKED.

THE HOUSE IS BLOCKED VERY, VERY STRONGLY ON, ON THE, UM, WHERE THE POSTS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE.

AND, UM, AND IF SOMEBODY KNOWS HOW TO BLOCK A, A HOUSE IS REUBEN, MR. ZAPATA.

SO, UM, IT'S NOT GOING TO FALL DOWN.

IT'S NOT ALL, UH, FLIMSY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

IT'S NOT, IT'S VERY STRONG.

AND, UM, OF COURSE, THE APPEARANCE OF, OF THE HOUSE, IT HAS NO POSTS.

WELL, IT GIVES THE APPEARANCE THAT IT IS GONNA FALL DOWN, BUT IT, BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S VERY STRONG RIGHT NOW.

AND, UH, AS FAR AS THE ROOF, WELL, IT, IT WILL NEED ROOF.

UH, UH, UH, SOME WORK ON THE ROOF, BUT IT'S NOT LEAKING.

IT'S NOT IN, YOU KNOW, THAT BAD, BAD, BAD OF SHAPE RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW.

BUT, UH, BUT I GUESS THAT'S ALL I I WANTED TO SAY AS FAR AS THE CONDITION OF THE FOUNDATION, THAT THE HOUSE IS VERY STRONG.

IF YOU WOULD PLEASE DESCRIBE THE PEERING SITUATION FOR IT.

THE PIERS, THE, THE PIERS ARE, UH, WELL, THE ORIGINAL PIERS, UH, ARE, UH, CEDAR, CEDAR POSTS.

I DON'T KNOW IF MR. SEPTA IS GOING TO, UM, WHICH MATERIAL HE IS GOING TO CHOOSE WHETHER, UM, UM, CEDAR OR, UH, OR CONCRETE.

I DON'T KNOW WHEN HE INSTALLS THE PIERS OR WHEN HE BUILDS THE PIERS WITH THE CONCRETE.

I DON'T KNOW WHICH MATERIAL HE'S GOING TO, UH, CHOOSE.

BUT, UH, THE NEXT, UH, STEP RIGHT NOW, AND IT JUST NEEDS A FEW, A FEW ADJUSTMENTS HERE AND THERE, UH, AND CONTINUE WITH THE HOLES, DIGGING THE HOLES AND INSTALLING THE POSTS, AND, AND THAT'S IT.

SO YOU HAVE DISCUSSED WITH MR. SAVADA THE INFORMATION ON THE PEER REQUIREMENTS AND HOW TO GO ABOUT DOING THAT? OH, YES.

YES, YOUR HONOR.

OKAY.

VERY GOOD.

DOES, DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, MS. BROWN? I HAVE A QUESTION.

THERE, THERE IS NO FOUND, I'M LOOKING AT A PICTURE HERE WHERE THE FLOOR JOISTS OR SETTING ON GRADE, THERE'S NO FOUNDATION THERE.

NO, THERE IS.

WELL, THE, UH, BEFORE INSTALLING THE POSTS, THE STEPS ARE, THE, THE NUMBER ONE STEP IS EVERY TIME WE LEVEL A HOUSE, WE HAVE TO BE BLOCKING IT.

IT, UH, RE REPLACING OR SUBSTITUTING THE WEAK POSTS WITH BLOCKS, WOODEN BLOCKS OR CONCRETE BLOCKS, WHATEVER MATERIAL, WOOD OR, OR, OR CONCRETE.

AND IN PLACE OF THE POSTS OF EACH POST THERE, IT MUST BE BLOCKED, NOT MORE THAN SIX FEET APART IN ORDER TO STABILIZE THE HOUSE.

AND, UM, AND, AND THAT, THAT'S THE PROCEDURE.

THE HOUSES THAT, UH, THAT HAVE BEEN WOUND UP ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE GROUND, WE, WE START BRINGING IT UP AND BLOCKING, BRINGING IT UP, AND BLOCKING AND BLOCKING.

BLOCKING.

SO WHAT PREVENTS AND AVOIDS ANY PROBLEM OF, OF SHIFTING OR MOVING ARE THE BLOCKS.

NOW, OF COURSE, IN, UH, REASONABLE TIME, UH, LET'S SAY A MONTH OR TWO MONTHS OR WHATEVER, WHENEVER THOSE BLOCKS ARE STILL GOING TO BE, UH, USEFUL, COULD LAST THE 10, 10 MONTHS, UH, WITHOUT MOVING.

BUT THE HOUSE IS, THE HOUSE HAS BEEN BLOCKED VERY WELL.

I SAW IT MYSELF, AND THE HOUSE IS NOT GONNA MOVE AT ALL.

AND THE NEXT STEP, OF COURSE, WILL, IS TAKING THE, THE HOLES AND INSTALLING THE PIERS.

AND, AND THAT WILL BE THE CONCLUSION OF A FOUNDATION, WHICH IS BEING DONE PROFESSIONALLY BY MY DAD.

UH, WE'RE HAVING DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHAT YOUR

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COMMENT WAS SPECIFICALLY HERE.

OKAY.

SHE'S ASKING, UH, OF BASICALLY THE PEERS APPEAR TO BE ON THE GROUND, AND HIS ANSWER WAS, THEY EVENTUALLY THEY WILL BE OFF OF THE GROUND BECAUSE THEY'LL BE BRINGING THAT LEVEL UP.

AND THEN THEY'LL BE, AFTER THEY GET THROUGH WITH ALL OF THAT, THEN THEY'LL BE PUTTING IN PEERS, UH, IN THE STRUCTURE.

AND NOW IT SOUNDS LIKE I'M TESTIFYING, BUT FROM AN ENGINEERING POINT OF VIEW, I'M GIVING HER AT LEAST THAT EXPERTISE.

BY THE TIME THEY GET THROUGH, UH, FROM HIS DESCRIPTION OF HIS PLAN, IT WILL BE A SOLID FOUNDATION.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

JUST FROM THE DESCRIPTION, I CAN'T TELL YOU ABOUT WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE ACTUAL WORK, BUT FROM THE DESCRIPTION, HE IS CORRECT FROM AN ENGINEERING POINT OF VIEW.

UH, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THIS WITNESS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

THANK, OKAY.

UH, BCA RIVERA HAD SIGNED UP.

BCA, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY SPECIFICALLY? AND AGAIN, I, BECAUSE OF THE PREVIOUS COMMENT, I'LL ASK YOU TO ADDRESS THE PROPERTY SPECIFIC.

DO YOU NEED INTERPRETERS? SAME.

OKAY.

JUST IN CASE, WE DO NEED AN INTERPRETER RIGHT HERE.

IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS.

MA'AM.

RIVERA AVENUE.

THANK YOU.

IF WE MAY HAVE YOUR TESTIMONY, PLEASE.

I CAME, I CAME HERE TO APPEAL TO YOUR COM, UH, COMPREHENSION AND COMPASSION FOR THE WORK THAT THEY'RE, UM, PERFORMING IN THEIR HOUSE ALREADY.

MR. ZAPATA LA CASA IS, THIS HOUSE IS VERY WELL SECURE.

IT DOESN'T REPRESENT ANY DANGER TO SOCIETY.

HE'S TAKING OTHER RESPON, HE'S TAKING OTHER RESPONSIBILITY OF WORKING SAFELY IN HIS HOUSE.

HE ALREADY SHOW YOU A SCOPE OF WORK.

HE ALREADY HAS PROVED THAT HE HAS DONE FINANCIAL MEANS TO WORK ON HIS HOUSE.

AND I'M ASKING YOU TO PLEASE RESPECT HIS TIME THAT HE NEEDS TO COMPLETE HIS SCOPE OF WORK, AND HE CANNOT, UM, COME TO THE REALIZATION OF COMPLETING THE HOUSE AND ACHIEVE HIS DREAM OF LIVING IN HIS OWN HOUSE.

AT FIRST, I ASK YOU FOR THAT, I'M APPEALING FOR YOUR COMPREHENSION TO CONSIDER THE, THE WORK THAT HE'S GOING, THE SITUATION OF, OF HIS WIFE HEALTH, AND ALL THE WORK THAT HE'S PUTTING IN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMPREHENSION.

DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, MA'AM.

CHAIR WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I HAVE A MOTION.

GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY LITIG LOCATED AT 2107.

SAN FERNANDO STREET IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE, WHICH IS FEASIBLE TO BE REPAIRED AT THIS TIME, AND IS IN VIOLATION OF NUMBER 1, 2, 8, 11, 12, 15, AND 17.

AND I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY BE REPAIRED IN 90 DAYS.

THE MOTION IS THAT THE PROPERTY IS IN VIOLATION OF, UH, CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SUBSECTIONS 1, 5, 6, OR EXCUSE ME, SECTION 1 5 6.

SUBSECTIONS 1, 2, 8, 11, 12, 15, AND 17, THAT THE PROPERTY BE REPAIRED, UH, WITHIN 90 DAYS.

I DID NOT HEAR PERMITS.

OH, ALL PERMITS MUST BE, UH, PULLED.

UM, THE PROPERTY MUST MAY, UH, MUST BE, UH, SECURED AT ALL TIMES.

SO, REPAIR, UH, WITH ALL PERMITS REQUIRED THE PROPERTY BE SECURED AT ALL TIMES.

DO

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I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND MS. BROWN.

SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.

FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.

GO AHEAD.

THAT IT STILL, UH, STAYS VACATED.

FRIENDLY AMENDMENT IS TO ADD, VACATE, UH, OR REMAIN VACANT.

UH, DO YOU ACCEPT THAT, UM, LEGAL, IF WE'RE JUST SAYING REMAIN VACATE, THAT'S NOT ISSUING AN A NOTICE TO VACATE, IS IT? WELL, YOU'RE SAYING REMAIN VACANT ASSUMES THAT IT'S ALREADY VACANT.

UM, TO, TO ISSUING A NOTICE, TO VACATE IS TO VACATE AND HAVE IT REMAIN VACANT, PENDING THE, THE REPAIRS THAT ARE TO BE MADE.

IT'S JUST MORE OF A, A CLARIFICATION.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UH, I ACCEPT MS. BROWN, DO YOU ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT? OH, I'M SORRY.

YES, I DO.

THANK YOU.

ANY DISCUSSION? NO, I HAD A, I HAD ANOTHER FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.

IS THAT THEY PROVIDE, UM, PROGRESS REPORTS, PRIVATE PROGRESS REPORTS, PROGRESS REPORTS, YES.

PROGRESS REPORTS? YES.

UH, HOW OFTEN? UH, EVERY 30 DAYS.

EVERY 30 DAYS.

SO THE RE AMENDED, UH, REQUEST IS TO PROVIDE PROGRESS REPORTS TO THE CODE OFFICER EVERY 30 DAYS.

I ACCEPT.

ACCEPTED MS. BROWN? YES.

SECOND.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I HAVE A QUESTION.

GO AHEAD WITH YOUR QUESTION.

IF PROGRESS REPORTS ARE GIVEN EVERY 30 DAYS AND WE SHOW THAT THEY ARE ATTEMPTING AND MAKING RE REPAIRS, COULD WE EXTEND THE 90 DAYS? ARE YOU ASKING FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION TO ALLOW THE CODE OFFICER TO EXTEND THE COMPLETION DATE? YES.

THAT'S A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.

OKAY.

FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.

I ACCEPT ACCEPTED MS. BROWN? YES.

SO THE EX DATE COULD BE EXTENDED BASED ON PROGRESS, AND THE PROGRESS PERMIT WOULD BE BY THE CODE OFFICER.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR FRIENDLY AMENDMENTS? MR. MR. CHAIR? YES, SIR.

UM, JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR, GIVING THEM 90 DAYS AND THEN IF PROGRESS IS MADE, THEN EXTENDING IT.

UM, MY CONCERN IS WHAT WOULD THAT PROGRESS NEED TO BE? AND I, I, I THINK IT'S A, IT'S A LITTLE AMBIGUOUS.

UM, I'M NOT TRYING TO SWAY THE BOARD IN ANY WAY, BUT, UM, IT, IT, I I THINK THE, WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE CAN BE DONE IF WE JUST EXTEND THEM MORE TIME THAN JUST 90 DAYS.

AND THEN IF THEY'RE MAKING PROGRESS, YOU EXTEND IT MORE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MORE, NOR DO WE HAVE, UM, SOME TYPE OF, UM, LEVEL OR, OR, OR, OR LEVEL TO ACHIEVE TO, TO EXTEND IT MORE THAN THOSE 90 DAYS.

UM, THERE WERE TWO DATES ACTUALLY PRESENTED TO THE BOARD.

ONE DATE WAS 12 MONTHS, THE OTHER DATE WAS SIX MONTHS.

UH, AND WE BASICALLY ARE LOOKING AT THREE MONTHS.

UH, SO THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO LOOK AT THE POSSIBILITY OF GOING TO A SIX MONTH.

AND AGAIN, THE RECOMMENDATION IS COMING FROM THE CHAIR, UH, PREDICATED ON PAST EXPERIENCE.

UH, SO I WOULD MAKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION INSTEAD OF 90 DAYS, I WOULD SAY SIX MONTHS.

UH, IF THE, UH, MOTION COULD BE EXTENDED TO SIX MONTHS, YES.

THAT'S FRIENDLY AMENDMENT THAT IS ACCEPTED TO SIX MONTH TIME PERIOD.

MS. BROWN, IS THAT ACCEPTABLE? YES.

UH, THE SECOND IS ACCEPTABLE TO THAT FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.

SO THE TIME PERIOD WOULD GO TO SIX MONTHS.

AND THEN THAT MEANS THAT WE WOULD ACTUALLY NOT HAVE AN EXTENSION FOR THE REPAIRS, IF THAT ACCEPTABLE TO YOU.

YES.

YES.

OKAY, FINE.

THEN THE REPAIR TIME WOULD BE A SIX MONTH REPAIR RATHER THAN A 90 DAY REPAIR.

UH, OKAY.

COUNSEL, ARE WE CLEAR ON THE, ON THE MOTION ITSELF, OR DO I NEED TO REPEAT IT? I HAVE IT AS, UH, SIX MONTHS, UH, THE PROPERTY TO BE VACATED AND REMAIN VACANT, PENDING THE REPAIRS, UH, PROGRESS REPORTS EVERY 30 DAYS AND PERMITS AS REQUIRED.

VERY GOOD.

SECURE, UH, PARDON ME.

AND SECURED, SECURE AND SECURED, UH, COUNCIL, COUNCIL ACKNOWLEDGES, UH, I THINK THIS IS SIMPLE ENOUGH THAT WE'LL ACCEPT, UH, A VOICE VOTE.

ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THOSE THAT OPPOSE SAY NAY.

A MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

UH, IF YOU WOULD, MR. ZAPATA, IF YOU WOULD GET WITH THE CODE OFFICER, UH, AND THE REST OF YOU WHO HAPPEN TO BE HERE, THE CODE OFFICER, THEN WE'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

HOPEFULLY THAT IS TRUE, .

UH, AND WE'LL MOVE TO OUR NEXT PROPERTY.

THE PROPERTY IS 7 7 5 0 7

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DELL OAK DRIVE.

THIS IS A PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE ISSUE.

GOOD MORNING BOARD.

MORNING.

GOOD MORNING.

FOR THE RECORD.

MY NAME IS DALE RUSSELL, CODE ENFORCEMENT SUPERVISOR WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCEMENT TEAM.

THE PROPERTY I'M PRESENTING BEFORE YOU TODAY IS LOCATED AT 75 0 7 DEL OAK DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 1 8.

LEGALS DESCRIPTION, BEING N C B 1 2 1 5 5.

BLOCK TWO SEVEN.

LOT ONE TWO.

LOCATED IN COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO, THE OWNER OF RECORD IS ACCORD, DAN M AND JOSEPH.

J UH, THIS PROPERTY IS NOT LOCATED IN A HISTORIC DIS DISTRICT AND IS CURRENTLY OCCUPIED, AND IT IS, UH, LOCATED NEAR THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL KRUEGER.

THE SECTIONS OF THE SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE VIOLATED ARE, UH, 3 0 2 0.5 RABBIT HAR RODENT HARBRIDGE.

ALL STRUCTURES EXTERIOR PROPERTY SHALL BE KEPT FREE FROM RODENT, HARBRIDGE AND INFESTATION.

WHERE RODENTS ARE FOUND, THEY SHOULD BE PROPERLY EXTERMINATED BY APPROVED PROCESS, WHICH WILL NOT IN BE INJURE TO HUMAN HEALTH.

AFTER EXTERMINATION, PROPER PRECAUTIONS SHALL BE TAKEN TO ELIMINATE RODENT HARBORAGE AND TO PREVENT REINFESTATION 3 0 4 0.6 EXTERIOR WALLS.

ALL EXTERIOR WALLS SHALL BE FREE FROM HOLES, BREAKS, AND LOOSE AND ROT MATERIALS, MAINTAINED WEATHER, UH, WEATHERPROOF AND PROPERLY SURFACE COATED WHERE, WHERE REQUIRED TO PREVENT DETERIORATION.

3 0 4 0.7 ROOF AND DRAINAGE ROOF AND FLASHING SHALL BE SOUND TIGHT AND NOT HAVE DEFECTS THAT EMIT RAIN.

ROOF DRAINAGE SHALL BE ADEQUATE TO PREVENT DAMPNESS OR DETERIORATION IN THE WALLS OR ANY INTERIOR PORTION OF THE STRUCTURE.

ROOF DRAINS, GUTTERS, DOWNPOURS SHALL BE MAINTAINED IN GOOD REPAIR, FREE FROM OBSTRUCTIONS.

3 0 4 0.3 0.2 OPENABLE WINDOWS EVERY WINDOW.

OTHER, OTHER THAN A FIXED WINDOW SHALL BE EASILY OPENED AND CAPABLE OF BEING HELD IN POSITION BY WINDOW HARDWARE.

3 0 5 0.3 INTERIOR SURFACES.

INTERIOR SURFACES, INCLUDING WINDOWS, DOORS, SHALL BE MAINTAINED IN GOOD REPAIR, CLEAN AND SANITARY CONDITION.

LOOSE PLASTERED, DECAYED WOOD, AND OTHER DEFECTIVE SURFACES.

CONDITIONS SHALL BE CORRECTED.

5 0 4 0.1.

GENERAL PLUMBING FIXTURES.

ALL PLUMBING FIXTURES SHALL BE PROPERLY INSTALLED, MAINTAINED IN WORKING ORDER, AND SHALL BE KEPT FREE FROM OBSTRUCTIONS, LEAKS, AND DEFECTS, AND BE CAPABLE OF FORMING FUNCTIONS FOR WHICH THE PLUMBING FIXTURE WERE DESIGNED.

ALL PLUMBING FIXTURES SHALL BE MAINTAINED.

SAFE, SANITARY, AND FUNCTIONAL CONDITION.

5 0 6 0.2.

SANITARY, UH, MAINTENANCE SANITARY DRAINAGE SYSTEM.

EVERY PLUMBING STACK, VENT, WASTE, AND SEWER LINE SHALL FUNCTION PROPERLY AND BE FREE FROM OBSTRUCTION, LEAKS, AND DEFECTS.

6 0 5 0.1.

INSTALLATION ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT.

ALL ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT, WIRING AND APPLIANCES SHALL BE INSTALLED AND MAINTAINED IN A SAFE APP, APPRO APPROVED MANNER.

AND 7 0 2 0.1 GENERAL MEANS OF EGRESS.

A SAFE, CONTINUOUS, UNOBSTRUCTED PATH OF TRAVEL SHALL BE PROVIDED FROM ANY POINT IN THE BUILDING OR STRUCTURE TO THE PUBLIC WAY.

MEANS OF EGRESS SHALL COMPLY WITH INTERNATIONAL FIRE FIRE CODE.

THE PROPERTY INSPECTIONS ON NOVEMBER 1ST, 2022 INITIAL DART INSPECTION WAS COMPLETED.

INSPECTION OF THE INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR OF THE PROPERTY.

ALL VIOLATIONS WERE DOCUMENTED.

CODE OFFICERS SPOKE WITH THE OWNER ON SITE REGARDING THE VIOLATIONS AND ISSUED A NOTICE OF VIOLATION IN PERSON.

DECEMBER 14TH, 2022.

INSPECTED THE EXTERIOR OF THE PROPERTY, NO VISIBLE REPAIRS MADE, AND NO PERMITS WERE OBTAINED.

UM, OWNER ALLOWED SS A P D OFFICERS INTO THE HOUSE LATER THAT DAY WHO CONFIRMED THAT NO REPAIRS HAD BEEN MADE TO THE INTERIOR.

DECEMBER 28TH, 2022, REINSPECTION OF PROPERTY.

NO VISIBLE REPAIRS WERE MADE AT THAT TIME.

JANUARY 11TH, 2023, REINSPECTION CONFIRMED THE STATUS OF REPAIRS.

UH, OWNER HAS NOT MADE ANY OF THE NECESSARY REPAIRS.

OWNER HAS STATED THAT THE HOUSE WILL NEED REWIRING DUE TO THE RATS CHEWING THROUGH THE WIRES IN THE HOUSE.

AND FEBRUARY 3RD, 2023 REINSPECTED THE PROPERTIES.

NO REPAIRS HAVE BEEN MADE.

SAWS HAS DISCONNECTED THE WATER SURFACE TO THE LOCATION.

IF YOU'LL LOOK AT THE PHOTOS THAT IS CONTEXTUAL FROM THE STREETS.

NEXT PHOTO, PLEASE.

AND THAT IS THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY.

YOU CAN SEE THE, THE SIDING ON THE LEFT SIDE AS, UH, DAMAGED, AND

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WE'LL GET A BETTER VIEW OF THAT.

AND THE WINDOWS ARE INOPERABLE.

NEXT PHOTO.

AND THAT IS THE, UH, THAT IS THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM, UH, COMING OUTTA THAT WALL.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE CONDITION OF THE EXTERIOR, EXTERIOR OF THE HOUSE.

NEXT PHOTO THAT IS THERE, THAT IS A INOPERABLE, AN OPENABLE WINDOW.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE WIRING COMING THROUGH THE WINDOW FRAME TO THE EXTERIOR OF THE HOUSE.

THANKS.

THAT IS THE INTERIOR ROOF CONDITION.

UH, YOU CAN SEE THE ROTTEN DETERIORATION BECAUSE OF THE LEAKS.

NEXT, PLEASE.

AND THE, ALL OF THE, UM, MATERIALS ARE STACKED AGAINST THE WALL, MAKING EGRESS FROM THE WINDOWS DIFFICULT, GIVEN THAT THEY ALSO DON'T OPEN.

NEXT, UH, THIS IS IN CONDITION OF THE HOUSE.

UH, YOU CAN SEE THERE WHERE THE, UH, EXTENSION CORDS ARE BEING USED AS PERMANENT WIRING NEXT.

AND THAT IS, UH, MORE OF THE EGRESS ISSUES IN ONE OF THE ROOMS. NEXT THERE IS THE REWIRING OF THE ELECTRICAL, UM, LIGHTS.

NEXT.

AND OF COURSE, YOU SEE THE, UH, CEILING FAN HANGING BY THE, JUST THE WIRE CONNECTIONS.

NEXT, THAT IS THE, UH, PLUMBING CONNECTION.

IT, IT IS LEAKING WELL, IT WAS LEAKING.

UM, AND YOU SEE THE HOLES IN THE WALLS NEXT.

AND THAT IS, UH, BACK BEHIND THE, UH, THE BATHROOM NEXT.

UH, THOSE ARE THE, THOSE, UH, YOU CAN SEE THE HOLES IN THE WALL THERE BEHIND THE FAUCET.

AND THE, THAT FAUCET WAS, UH, LEAKING.

NEXT, YOU CAN SEE THE, THE INFESTATION THERE.

UM, AND THAT'S THROUGHOUT THE PROPERTY NEXT.

AND IF YOU LOOK BETWEEN THE REFRIGERATOR AND THE MICROWAVE, YOU'LL SEE THE RATS.

AND THERE ARE MANY RATS.

NEXT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER BE FOUND IN VIOLATION OF THE SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY.

MAINTENANCE CODE 3 0 2 0.5, RAT HARBRIDGE, 3 0 4 0.6.

EXTERIOR WALLS, 3 0 4 0.7.

ROOF AND DRAINAGE 3 0 4 0.1, 3.2 OPENABLE, WINDOWS 3 0 5 0.3.

INTERIOR SURFACES 5 0 4 0.1.

GENERAL PLUMBING FIXTURES, 5 0 6 0.2.

MAINTENANCE, SANITARY DRAINAGE SYSTEM, 6 0 5 0.1.

INSTALLATION ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT, 7 0 2 0.1.

GENERAL MEANS OF EGRESS, AND THAT THE OWNER BE ORDERED TO MAKE ALL NECESSARY REPAIRS, OBTAIN THE NECESSARY PERMITS AND ORDER THAT THE PROPERTY BE VACATED AND THE UTILITIES DISCONNECTED OR NECESSARY.

THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE CODE OFFICER? I DO.

UH, THIS IS FRED ANDES.

I'M CONFUSED.

YOU ENTERED THIS AS A DART CASE? YES, SIR.

IT WAS DONE AS PART OF A DART INSPECTION.

UM, WHEN WE GOT INTO THE, THE, THE BUILDING ITSELF, IT, UM, IT MET MORE THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE THAN IT DID, UH, CHAPTER SIX, THE, THE BONES OF THE PROPERTIES, THE BONES OF THE BUILDING.

THAT'S WHY I WAS GONNA ASK.

'CAUSE NORMALLY THE DARTS ARE USED FOR DANGEROUS STRUCTURES, AND WE'RE USING IT FOR THIS.

THIS HAS A SIGNIFICANT CRIMINAL HISTORY.

UM, S A P D COULD NOT BE HERE TODAY.

OKAY.

UM, BUT, AND IT'S ALSO BACKS UP TO A ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

RIGHT.

AND I WAS GONNA SAY THAT 'CAUSE IT'S LIKE A LESS THAN A THOUSAND FEET.

YES, SIR.

YES, IT ACTUALLY, SO IT'S BEHIND THE ELEMENTARY IS ACTUALLY BEHIND THE HOUSE.

YES, SIR.

WITH THAT SAID, THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY, DO THEY LIVE THERE OR IS IT A RENTAL? I DIDN'T HEAR THAT PART.

THE OWNER DOES LIVE THERE.

AND IN THE NOTES I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING ABOUT, UM, VACATE.

ARE YOU GONNA ASK FOR THAT OR, YES.

WE'RE ASKING FOR A VACATE NOTICE.

SO YOU'RE ASKING FOR A VACATE, AND YOU SAID THE WATER WAS OFF.

CORRECT? THE WATER IS OFF OUR NON-PAYMENT, AND WE'D LIKE TO DISCONNECT THE, OF COURSE, ELECTRICAL.

OKAY.

SO IT'S NOT BEEN DONE YET, SO YOU'RE GONNA WANT THE FULL GAMUT ON THAT.

OKAY.

YES, SIR.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THE CODE OFFICER LENCIA.

MR. RUSSELL, HAVE YOU SPOKEN WITH THE, WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU SPOKE WITH THE RESIDENTS? UH, THE, ACTUALLY THE, UH, LAST TIME WE SPOKE WITH HIM WAS, UM, THE LAST INSPECTION.

UM, THE OWNER IS

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NOT THERE AT THIS TIME.

MM-HMM.

, BUT, UH, THERE WERE OTHER PEOPLE AT THE LOCATION.

OH.

SO, OKAY.

SO THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE AT THE RESIDE.

OKAY.

AND WHEN YOU DID SPEAK WITH THE OWNER, DID HE MAKE ANY INDICATION AS FAR AS, UH, TO SPEAK TO ANY OF THESE CODE VIOLATIONS? THE, AND SHE DID HAVE A, A FRIEND HELPING HER, AND THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO MAKE THE REPAIRS, BUT WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING SINCE THE INITIAL INSPECTION, AND WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT SHE'LL MOVE FORWARD.

OKAY.

GOOD.

THANK YOU.

THIS ROBERT, TOP GO AHEAD.

DO YOU THINK THEY HAVE ANY, UM, FINANCIAL MEANS? NO, SIR.

HOW ABOUT DO THEY CARE? WELL, WE'D LIKE TO GIVE 'EM THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THE REPAIRS SINCE THE, THE BONES OF THE STRUCTURE ARE GOOD.

UM, GIVE 'EM THE OPPORTUNITY TO EITHER MAKE THOSE REPAIRS OR MAKE OTHER ARRANGEMENTS, MAYBE, UM, OTHER MEANS.

I HAVE A QUESTION, MS. BROWN? YES.

UM, WHO WAS THE, EXCUSE ME, WHEN WAS THE FIRST INSPECTION ON THIS AND THE SECOND AND THE THIRD? NOVEMBER 1ST, 2022 WAS THE FIRST INSPECTION.

DECEMBER 14TH, 2022 WAS THE SECOND.

AND THEN DECEMBER 28TH WAS OUR LAST INSPECTION OF 2022.

AT THAT TIME, DID YOU HAVE A OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO THE OWNER? YES, WE, WE DID TALK TO THE OWNER ON THE FIRST INSPECTION.

OKAY.

AND, UH, DID THEY PROMISE YOU THEY WERE GONNA FIX IT? YES.

AND THEY HAVEN'T.

SO WHY DO YOU THINK THEY'RE GONNA FIX IT NOW? WELL, WE ARE HOPING THAT SHE WILL FIND THE MEANS TO GET IT REPAIRED.

OH.

OPTUM WORD IS HOPE.

OKAY.

WELL, AND THE, I'M, I'M JUST, SO I'VE BEEN ON THIS BOARD FOR, AND I DON'T MEAN TO GET ON MY SOAP OPERA.

I'VE BEEN ON THIS BOARD FOR 10 YEARS.

THEN WE'LL ASK THAT.

GO TO ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURES, THEN JUST DON'T, RATHER THAN ASKING THE QUESTION, , I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE CODE OFFICER? OH, JESUS.

I GOTTA FOLLOW UP.

GO AHEAD.

HAVE YOU TALKED TO ANY OF THE NEIGHBORS? IF THIS IS 50 RATS HERE THAT THEY'VE KILLED , THEN THAT, THAT KIND OF IMPLIES THAT THERE'S PROBABLY MAYBE ONE OR TWO MORE THEY MISSED ALL OVER THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

IS YOU TALKED TO ANY OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT INDICATED THIS, OR IS THIS WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM? OR IS THERE ANOTHER PLACE THAT THEY'RE, WE, WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T TALKED TO THE NEIGHBORS ABOUT THE RAT CONDITION ITSELF, UH, IF THEY ARE BEING AFFECTED.

BUT WE DO KNOW THAT THIS STRUCTURE IS, IS INFESTED SAFE DECISION.

PROBABLY THEY'RE GOING FROM THIS HOUSE TO WELL, AND THERE'S A GREENWAY BETWEEN, BEHIND THIS HOUSE, BETWEEN THAT AND THE SCHOOL FENCE.

SO WE KNOW THAT THERE'S PROBABLY MOVEMENT.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THE CODE OFFICER, IF NONE CHAIR WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

ALL RIGHT.

I MOVED THAT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 7 5 0 7 DELL OAK DRIVE WAS IN VIOLATION OF SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE SECTIONS 3 0 2 0.5 ROAD IN HARBRIDGE, 3 0 4 0.6, EXTERIOR WALLS 3 0 4 0.7 ROOF AND DRAINAGE 3 0 4 0.1, 3.2 OPENABLE WINDOWS 3 0 5 0.3.

INTERIOR SERVICES 5 0 4.

GENERAL PLUMBING 5 0 6 2 MAINTENANCE, SIX FIVE, INSTALLATION OF ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT AND SEVEN 2.1.

GENERAL FOUND ON NOVEMBER 1ST, 2022.

AND IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE.

I ALSO FIND THAT THE PROPERTY REMAINS IN VIOLATION.

THE PROPERTY IS TO BE REPAIRED, REPAIRED.

ALL PERMITS PULLED, UM, VACATED UTILITIES DISCONNECTED WITHIN 60 DAYS TO THE SATISFACTION OF THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.

THE MOTION OF THE FLOOR IS, UH, THAT THE PROPERTY IS IN VIOLATION OF CODES 3 0 2 0.5 3 0, 4 0.630 4.730 4.3 2, 3 0 5, 0.350 4.150 6.260 5.1, 7 0 2 0.1.

AND THAT THE PROPERTY IS TO BE REPAIRED IN 60 DAYS WITH ALL PERMITS DRAWN OR PULLED BEFORE THE REPAIR START, THE PROPERTY BE VACATED AND THAT UTILITIES BE DISCONNECTED.

DO I HAVE A SECOND SECURE? I'LL SECOND.

SECOND BY MS. BROWN.

ANY DISCUSSION? CLAIRE? SHE ALSO SAID SECURED, UH, AMENDED TO THE MOTION

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THAT THE PROPERTY BE SECURED.

ACCEPT IT.

ACCEPT IT AS A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION? UH, ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? I DIDN'T SAY SECURED.

UH, THE MOTION DID NOT ADD SECURE NO AMENDMENT.

WAS THAT A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT THEN, MS. YEAH.

THEN I'LL ADD THAT IS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, UH, TO ALSO SECURE THE PROPERTY.

IS THAT ACCEPTABLE? I DON'T SEE, I DON'T SEE THAT AS NECESSARY TO SECURE THE PROPERTY.

MR. UH, DELL, DO YOU SEE IT NECESSARY TO SECURE THE PROPERTY FRIENDLY AMENDMENT IS NOT ACCEPTED? HOLD ON.

SHE'S GONNA, ANYTIME WE DO HAVE A NOTICE TO VACATE, UM, SECURING THE PROPERTY WOULD BE HELPFUL.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THEN I'LL ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT CORRECTION, THEN.

THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO SECURE THE PROPERTY IS ADDED.

UH, THE SECOND CONCUR, CONCUR.

SECOND IS CONCURRED.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAYYY MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE WILL GO TO ADMINISTRATIVE.

THERE ARE NO OTHER PROPERTIES.

RIGHT.

RIGHT.

UH, WE HAVE SOME ADMINISTRATIVE ISSUES TO DISCUSS, UH, FIRST OF THOSE BEING PERMITS, THE TIMING OF PERMITS, UH, BECAUSE WE HAD SOME MISUNDERSTANDING OR PAST EXPERIENCE ISSUES WITH PERMITS.

UH, SO I GUESS, UH, WE NEED TO, TO LEAVE IT TO THE DISCUSSION ON THE STAFF, ON, UH, APPARENTLY PERMITS ARE GONNA BE ALLOWED WHERE YOU'VE GOT SITUATIONS, UH, SPECIAL SITUATIONS, UH, BECAUSE MR. ES IS CORRECT, UH, AT LEAST THIS MEMBER OF THE BOARD HAD THOUGHT THAT WE DID NOT ALLOW PERMITS WHEN WE WERE IN CONSIDERATION.

UH, BUT GO AHEAD, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE.

YES, FORWARD.

THIS IS, UH, JENNY RAMIREZ IN CLARIFICATION.

I, I DID GO BACK AND WE WERE DO DOUBLE CHECKING OUR NOTES ON THAT.

AND I THINK THE KEY, THE KEY ITEM ON THAT IS GONNA BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN IF WE ARE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION FOR REPAIRS OR A RECOMMENDATION FOR DEMOLITION.

SO THE CLARIFICATION IN THE SEPARATION IS IF WE'VE MADE A RECOMMENDATION FOR DEMOLITION, WE'VE GONE THROUGH OUR REVIEW, WE'VE GONE THROUGH OUR EXECUTIVE LEADERSHIP REVIEW, AND IT'S ALL CONT, YOU KNOW, UH, AGREED UPON, THOSE ARE THE CASES THAT WE ARE PUTTING LOCKS ON AND THAT WE ARE PUTTING A HOLD ON AFTER IT'S GONE THROUGH THE EXECUTIVE, UM, REVIEW AND APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD TO A, TO A HEARING.

THAT IS NOT THE SAME TRACK AS FOR THE CASES THAT ARE, OF COURSE SS A P M C AND OR REPAIR ORDERS THAT ARE BEING RECOMMENDED FOR REPAIRS.

SO THIS PARTICULAR CASE, WE DON'T DO VERY OFTEN.

WE DON'T DO REPAIR RECOMMENDATIONS VERY OFTEN, BUT THOSE ARE THE TRACKS THAT WE ARE CARRYING FOR THE REPAIR RECOMMENDATIONS.

COULD YOU REPEAT THAT FIRST PART PLEASE? THE SEPARATION BETWEEN, TO CLARIFY THE SEPARATION BETWEEN WHEN A CASE IS BEING PRESENTED AND RECOMMENDED.

IF IT'S BEING RECOMMENDED FOR A DEMOLITION, WE DO PUT A LOCK ON IT ONCE IT'S BEEN REVIEWED AT EXECUTIVE LEADERSHIP, UH, THE EXECUTIVE LEADERSHIP HAS REVIEWED AND APPROVED IT TO MOVE ON FOR AN AGENDA HEARING, THAT'S THE TIME THAT WE'LL PUT A LOCK ON THOSE, ON THOSE CASES SO THAT THEY CANNOT PULL NEW PERMITS.

IF A CASE IS BEING RECOMMENDED AND HAS BEEN APPROVED TO MOVE FORWARD AS A DE AS A REPAIR RECOMMENDATION, WE DO STILL ALLOW PERMITS TO BE PULLED UP UNTIL THE DAY OF, OF, UH, THE PRESENTATION SIMILAR TO AN S A P M C CASE, WHICH BASICALLY IS AN ISSUE OF THE BOARD BECOMES THE LAST RESORT TYPE THING.

UH, AND STAFF IS BASICALLY IN, IN THE CASE OF A DEMOLITION, STAFF HAS GONE THROUGH MULTIPLE ENGINEERING REVIEWS OF NOT ONLY THE VIOLATIONS BUT THE STRUCTURE ITSELF.

AND BEFORE THEY WOULD EVER BRING IT TO US, UH, THEY HAVE MADE THE DETERMINATION THAT THE REPAIRS PROBABLY ARE NOT, UH, PROBABLE OR LIKELY, UH, OR CAN BE COMPLETED IN A FINANCIALLY APPROPRIATE WAY.

UH, IN CONTRAST TO THAT, IF YOU'VE GOT A SITUATION WHERE A PROPERTY, UH, IS, HAS SHOWN REPAIR, UH, AND COULD BE REPAIRED, THEN WE WOULD LIKE FOR 'EM TO BE ABLE TO PROCEED WITH THAT REPAIR.

AND AGAIN, IT'S BECAUSE OF THE STAFF ISSUES, UH, BEING ABLE TO REPAIR FROM AN ENGINEERING POINT OF VIEW, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE MULTIPLE ENGINEERS ON STAFF.

UH, AND AGAIN, IT'S AN ISSUE OF LAST RESORT.

SO THIS PANEL IS THE AREA OF LAST RESORT, AND IF, UH, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE SOMETHING REPAIRED, THEN HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE ABLE TO CONTINUE WITH THAT REPAIR PROCESS.

IS THAT A CORRECT SUMMATION OF YOUR COMMENT? MUCH BETTER CLARIFICATION THAN I PRESENTED.

YES, SIR.

THANK YOU.

I MEAN, EVEN IN, IN ONE OTHER THING THAT, JUST TO ADD TOO, ONE SMALL PIECE IS JUST BECAUSE THEY PULL THE PERMIT, THAT DOES NOT SAY AN ORDER CANNOT AFFORD TO CHANGE THE ORDER TO

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A DEMOLITION TO CHANGE THE ORDER TO, OR TO MAKE IT A REPAIR WITH CONDITIONS OR WHATNOT.

THE PERMIT IS NOT A, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T DESCRIBE IT ANY OTHER WAY OF A GET OUT OF JAIL FREE 'CAUSE THEY PULLED THE PERMIT.

YOU CAN'T TOUCH THE HOUSE THAT SOME PEOPLE THINK THAT WAY.

AND WE EXPLAIN THAT VERY CAREFULLY, THAT, THAT THAT DOES NOT DELAY OR BELAY AN ORDER THAT COMES FROM THE BOARD.

THE ULTIMATE IS THE LAST, THE LAST ORDER THAT COMES FROM THE BOARD IS, IS WHAT WE STAND BY AND WHAT WE WILL ENFORCE.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR ANY COMMENTS? WELL, MY UNDERSTANDING IS WHEN I WAS READING THE NOTES, THERE WERE NO PERMITS EVEN PULLED ON THE PROPERTY.

THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE'S A PERMIT ON THE PROPERTY THAT SUPPOSEDLY EXPIRED, AND THEN HE PULLS A PERMIT YESTERDAY AND THE BOARD IS HEARING IT TODAY.

TO ME, IF THE BOARD SAYS, NO, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THAT, THEN THE GUY, THE INDIVIDUAL CAME IN TO PULL THE PERMIT IS GONNA BE VERY IRATE BECAUSE THEY PULLED THE PERMIT WITHOUT THE DISPOSITION OF THE BOARD AND THE BOARD OVERRULED IT.

I'M, THAT'S, I THINK WHERE IT'S CONFUSED EVERYBODY IS, IF NORMALLY WE DON'T DO THAT UNTIL THE BOARD'S DISPOSITION IS DONE, THAT'S WHY WE, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A DEMOLITION RECOMMENDATION AND THE REPAIR RECOMMENDATION THEY'RE TAKING, THEY'RE STILL TAKING A RISK BECAUSE THE BOARD HAS A FINAL SAY.

THE BOARD CAN STILL OVERRULE OR OR DISAGREE WITH OUR REPAIR RECOMMENDATION AND STILL GO DOWN TO A DEMOLITION.

AND IF WE KNOW THAT BEFOREHAND, WE'LL LET THE OWNERS KNOW THAT, THAT YOU'RE TAKING THAT RISK, YOU'RE SPENDING THAT MONEY AND IT, IT'S NOT GONNA NECESSARILY WIN YOU ANY FAVORS IF YOU DON'T BRING YOUR WHOLE PLAN TOGETHER.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR, YOUR FINANCES IN ORDER, AND YOU HAVE ALL THE OTHER PIECES THAT NEED TO BE TIED TOGETHER TO WHAT THAT PERMIT ULTIMATELY WILL MEAN.

SO IT IT, IT IS THE RISK THEY'RE TAKING IT IS AN ABSOLUTE RISK THEY'RE TAKING BECAUSE THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT, AGAIN, WILL ALLOW AUTOMATIC TIME JUST BECAUSE THEY'VE PULLED THE PERMIT.

I GUESS IN MY VIEW OF IT, IF YOU HAVE A PERMIT TO BE PULLED, WHAT IS THE REQUIREMENT OUT THERE WHEN YOU'RE ON A LIST TO HEAR, TO BE HEARD IN A BOARD.

BUT YOU AND HERE PRESENT ALL OF YOUR DOCUMENTATION TODAY.

SO TO GET HIS PERMIT YESTERDAY, HE DIDN'T HAVE TO HAVE ANY DOCUMENTATION.

I, HOLD ON, I I WANNA MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND SOMETHING.

WE'RE TALKING IN GENERAL, WE ARE NOT TALKING AT ANY SPECIFIC PROPERTY IN GENERAL.

YOU GO OUT THERE, YOU GOT A CASE THAT YOU KNOW IS COMING UP, THEY'RE ONLY NOTIFIED OUT THERE ABOUT DEMO, UH, A UM, DANGEROUS PREMISE TO HOLD.

RIGHT? SO THEY'RE NOT AWARE THAT A REPAIR IS IN HERE OR COMING TO THIS AREA IN GENERAL.

THAT IS CORRECT.

YES, SIR.

I, I I I WANNA MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND IN, IN THESE QUESTIONS, WE UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS OF B S B, UM, LIKE, UM, UH, LIKE OUR CHAIRMAN SAID, THIS IS THE END OF THE LINE.

I'VE, I'VE TOLD YOU, I THINK I'VE SAID ALL OF YOU BEFORE, I USE THE ANALOGY, THIS IS THE CABOOSE OF THE TRAIN.

THERE ARE PRE B S B MEETINGS, THERE ARE MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES FOR OWNERS AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TO COME TOGETHER AND DISCUSS.

AND AT THOSE PSB B S B MEETINGS, THE OWNERS ARE AWARE OF THE CITY'S POS, EXCUSE ME, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES POSITION.

SO, UM, IF THEIR POSITION IS, YEAH, WE THINK THE REPAIRS CAN BE MADE, THEN UM, IT WOULD, IT WOULD STAND TO REASON THAT THEY'RE GOING TO ALLOW REPAIRS OR AT LEAST PERMITS TO BE PULLED.

IF THE DECISION BY THE EXECUTIVE TEAM, AFTER, AFTER, UH, MUCH DEBATE AND RESEARCH THAT THE PROPERTY AND THE CITY HAS TO GO TO, IT'S, UM, THE LAST MEANS THAT WE'D LIKE TO, WHICH IS, UM, A DEMOLITION, UM, RECOMMENDATION, THEN THE CITY'S POSITION IS THAT PROPERTY IS UNSAFE AND WE'D LIKE FOR THAT PROPERTY TO COME DOWN.

SO IT WOULD REASON TO THINK THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW PERMITS TO BE PULLED ON A PROPERTY THEY THINK SHOULD BE DEMOLISHED.

DOES THAT, I I, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HELPS YOU OR NOT, BUT I DO WANNA MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND.

WHEN A PROPERTY IS BROUGHT IN FRONT OF THIS BOARD, THE NOTICES AND THE, UH, THE MULTIPLE TIMES THAT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, UM, HAS, HAS TRIED TO TOUCH BASE WITH THE OWNER, GET WITH THE OWNER, SPEAK WITH THEM, WORK WITH THEM IS, UM, IS EXTENSIVE.

SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT LIKE SOMEBODY'S COMING IN HERE WITH THEIR NOT KNOWING ANYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING UNLESS THEY, THEY CHOOSE TO IGNORE THE NOTICES, UH, THE MEETING REQUESTS.

UM, SO, UH, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

WHILE, UH, IT, IT IS A LITTLE UPSETTING THAT SOMEONE MIGHT PULL A PERMIT THE LAST MINUTE, UH, NOT KNOWING WHAT THE FINAL DECISION OF THIS BOARD'S GOING TO BE.

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UM, THAT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST WHAT IT, THAT THAT IS WHAT IT IS.

I MEAN, I I, WE CAN'T STOP SOMEBODY FROM PULLING A PERMIT IF A RECOMMENDATION, UH, BY THE CITY IS GOING TO BE TO REPAIR, BUT THIS BOARD, AFTER LOOKING AT IT, DISAGREES.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S TO, IN MY OPINION, MY OPINION ONLY, THAT'S NOT A GOOD, YOU KNOW, A PERSON'S PER A PERSON'S, UM, WHAT DO I WANNA SAY? I I DON'T THINK THAT'S A GOOD COURSE OF ACTION.

YOU KNOW, THEY KNOW THAT THEY'RE COMING HERE AND THIS IS THE LAST STOP, AND THEN THE CITY ALLOWS THEM TO GO AND PULL A PERMIT.

NOW, IF WE HAD HAVE JUST CHOSEN TO TEAR DOWN THE HOUSE, THEY HAVE ALREADY LOST, I THINK IT WAS $107 OR $10 OR WHATEVER IT WAS, THEY'VE LOST THAT.

THESE PEOPLE OUT HERE CAN'T AFFORD THAT.

I MEAN, NOBODY CAN, AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S RIGHT.

THEY'RE A PERSON'S PERCEPTION IS THEIR OWN REALITY.

I WANT Y'ALL, I WANT Y'ALL TO REMEMBER THAT, BECAUSE THAT IS THE TRUEST STATEMENT THAT I COULD SAY IN THE 10 YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE, A PERSON'S PERCEPTION IS THEIR OWN REALITY.

YOU KNOW? AND THEY MIGHT HAVE COME IN HERE WITH THIS PERMIT THINKING THAT, OH, WELL, I GOT IT MADE NOW.

AND THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, RIGHT UP HERE BECAUSE WE CAN SAY NO, YOU KNOW, AND NOW THEY'RE OUT OF MONEY THAT THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO THAT, THAT YOU CAN, I I, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'D NECESSARILY WOULD WANT US TO FIX THIS, BUT IF SOMEBODY ALSO COMES IN HERE WITH A SCOPE OF WORK, PROOF OF FINANCIAL MEANS AND OVERT ACTS TO SHOW YOU THAT THEY WANT TO MAKE THOSE REPAIRS, HOPEFULLY THIS BOARD IS TAKING THOSE INTO CONSIDERATION.

BECAUSE IF, AGAIN, IF SOMEBODY COMES IN, I'M NOT, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT SOMEBODY COMING IN HERE JUST WITH A PERMIT THE LAST MINUTE.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SOMEBODY COMING IN HERE, UM, IN ADDITION TO PULLING THAT PERMIT SOMEWHAT AT THE LAST MINUTE, THEY'RE ALSO BRINGING YOU OTHER INFORMATION.

ALL THESE THINGS ARE, ARE, ARE, ARE, ARE, ARE HOPEFULLY, UM, TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION BY THIS BOARD IN MAKING AN INFORMED DECISION.

COULD HAVE, HE COULD HAVE BROUGHT IN HIS SCOPE OF WORK, HIS FINANCE, EVERYTHING, AND HE COULD HAVE PULLED THE PERMIT TODAY AFTER OUR RULING.

HE DIDN'T HAVE TO GO AND Y'ALL SELL HIM A PERMIT YESTERDAY BECAUSE HE KNEW HE WAS COMING HERE.

SO LET HIM DO IT TODAY AFTER HE DETERMINES WHAT IT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE GONNA ALLOW HIM TO DO.

I, I JUST, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT THAT, THAT IN, EVEN IN MY, MY COMPUTER, IT DOESN'T EVEN COMPUTE , YOU KNOW, IT JUST, IT'S JUST NOT RIGHT TO THE CONSUMER.

IT'S NOT RIGHT TO OUR CUSTOMERS, AND IT'S NOT RIGHT TO THE PEOPLE THAT, THAT WE ARE UP HERE TRYING TO, TO, TO, UH, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE SOME KIND OF WAVES FOR THEM ABOUT THEY, YES, YOU CAN FIX YOUR, YOUR HOUSE AND GO PULL YOUR PERMIT.

NOW, IT WASN'T GONNA HURT HIM FOR ONE DAY, YOU KNOW, NOT KNOWING WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO.

AND IF, IF WE HAD HAVE SAID NO, WE'RE GONNA TEAR IT DOWN, THEN HE WOULD'VE BEEN, HE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN OUT OF THE MONEY.

I'M SORRY.

I JUST, I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT PHILOSOPHY.

WELL, WE HAVE ALSO SEEN, NOT, NOT IN A PERMITTING ISSUE, BUT WE'VE SEEN SITUATIONS WHERE BUILDINGS HAVE, HAVE HAD REPAIR WORK DONE ON THEM, AND WE STILL DEEMED THAT THE REPAIR WORK WAS INSUFFICIENT, AND WE HAVE DEMOLISHED THOSE BUILDINGS.

SO IT'S A VERY SIMILAR SITUATION IN TERMS OF THOSE BUILDINGS THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY DEMOLISHED OR ORDERED TO BE DEMOLISHED.

WELL, UH, I, BUT I, IN FAIRNESS TO YOU, I UNDERSTAND YOUR, YOUR, YOUR INTEREST, YOUR CONCERN, UH, AND, AND YOU MAY BE VERY RIGHT, BECAUSE THERE, THEY'VE SPENT THE MONEY ON THE PERMIT.

THAT'S RIGHT.

UH, SO THERE MAY BE SOME, SOME INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS THAT YOU MAY WANNA TAKE ON THAT ONE.

AND MR. SHANNON, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A COMMENT ON IT, UH, I KNOW YOU MAY NOT WANTED TO, BUT YOU'RE HERE, SO WE'LL LET YOU COMMENT ON IT.

THIS IS NOT RIGHT EITHER TO PUT MIKE SHANNON ON ME.

OKAY.

, .

WELL, I JUST, UM, WELL, IT'S GOOD TO SEE EVERYONE.

HI, EVERYBODY.

MIKE SHANNON, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

UM, IT'S BEEN A LITTLE WHILE SINCE I'VE BEEN TO THE MEETINGS, UM, DUE TO COUNSEL ON THE SAME DAY.

BUT, UH, UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO JUMP IN.

UH, CERTAINLY THESE ARE VALID QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU FOR ASKING THEM AND, AND SHARING YOUR THOUGHTS.

UH, CERTAINLY I THINK, UH, I THINK JENNY DID A GOOD JOB DESCRIBING WHAT THE ANSWER IS.

THE ANSWER IS, UM, AS SHE MENTIONED, WE HAVE MADE A DECISION, THIS IS HOW WE CONDUCT OUR BUSINESS AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I SUPPORT THAT.

AND I THINK, UH, THESE ARE DIFFICULT CASES.

UH, WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH PEOPLE, CERTAINLY IN AN EXAMPLE LIKE THIS.

HAD THE DECISION GONE THE OTHER WAY, WE COULD HAVE CERTAINLY ISSUED A REFUND ON THE PERMIT FROM YESTERDAY.

SO THOSE ARE ALSO OPTIONS, UH, AVAILABLE TO US.

BUT, UH, AGAIN, I THINK THESE ARE ISSUES THAT ME AS THE BUILDING OFFICIAL AND MY STAFF DEAL WITH AND, AND ARE CHARGED TO DO EACH DAY, AND, UH, CERTAINLY WANNA HELP YOU GUYS HELP MAKE YOUR DECISIONS.

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UH, BUT, UH, BUT AGAIN, I THINK WE'VE ANSWERED THE QUESTION.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU NEED, IF YOU DON'T, IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE ANSWER, SOMETIMES I GET THAT YOU DON'T AGREE WITH THE ANSWER.

SOMETIMES I GET THAT.

UM, I WISH EVERYBODY AGREED WITH OUR ANSWERS.

THAT'S NOT TRUE ALL THE TIME.

BUT, UH, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER SOME MORE QUESTIONS IF YOU HAD, BUT, UH, JUST A REAL QUICK COMMENT, ANSWER, I, I ACTUALLY THINK IT'S A SITUATION ON INDIVIDUAL CASES PER SE, BECAUSE ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE THAT WE HEARD TODAY, I HAD NO PROBLEM WITH THE PLAN.

HOWEVER, THERE ARE CASES THAT WE HAVE LISTENED TO BEFORE THAT MAYBE THAT WOULD'VE BEEN THE WRONG DECISION.

SO, UH, I BOW TO YOUR COMMENT BECAUSE YEAH, THE PROCESS MAY NOT BE VALID.

SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'D ASK THE STAFF TO TAKE A LOOK AT AND SEE IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE MIGHT WANNA RECONSIDER ITSELF.

UH, THERE, I I HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION ON THAT.

OKAY, GO AHEAD.

I MEAN, I, I AM ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT I HATE INTERRUPTING PEOPLE BECAUSE I FIND IT EXTREMELY OFFENSIVE AND RUDE WHEN I'M INTERRUPTED.

SO I JUST LET THIS GO.

BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, IT'S A REPAIR RECOMMENDATION.

IT IS NOT A DEMOLITION, IT'S NOT A DANGEROUS PROPERTY.

AND IT IS OUR JOB AS BOARD MEMBERS TO UPHOLD THE CODE.

THE CODE DOES NOT CALL FOR DEMOLITION ON A PROPERTY THAT IS NOT DANGEROUS, BUT IT'S OURS CONTRAST.

IT'S OUR, IT'S OUR VERSION OF INTERPRETATION.

IT'S OUR PERCEPTION OF WHAT WE SEE BEFORE US, AND WE HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

SO I DON'T BELIEVE THAT STOPPING AN INDIVIDUAL FROM GETTING A, A PERMIT ON A RE, UH, ON A REPAIR RECOMMENDATION, UH, IS FEASIBLE.

WHAT IS THE POINT? THEY, THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT IS ALWAYS ASKED TO THE CODE OFFICER, HAVE ANY PERMITS BEEN PULLED? SO IF WE'RE GONNA LOCK THE PERMITS AND SIT AND THEN ASK THAT QUESTION AND LIKE, OH, WELL THEY DIDN'T EVEN TRY TO GET A PERMIT.

WELL, IT'S LOCKED.

LIKE HOW WE CAN'T COUNT IT AGAINST THEM IF WE'RE GONNA LOCK IT AND WE CAN'T, IT CAN'T BE BOTH WAYS BASICALLY.

BUT, BUT MS. BROWN'S COMMENT BASICALLY IS, UH, THAT SOMEONE MAY HAVE THE ASSUMPTION THAT ONCE THEY COME IN HERE WITH A PERMIT, THAT THEY CAN KEEP GOING.

AND THAT'S PROBABLY A VERY FAIR, UNFAIR THOUGHT BECAUSE WE HAVE ACTUALLY DEMOLISHED BUILDINGS THAT WERE RECOMMENDED BY STAFF TO BE REPAIRED.

AND THE REASON THE BOARD DID THAT, WELL, I CAN'T SAY THE INDIVIDUAL REASONS, BUT, BUT ONE, UH, ONE CASE THAT I PERSONALLY, UH, HAD DEMOLISHED WAS I DID NOT THINK THERE WAS ANY WAY FINANCIALLY THAT THEY EVER BE ABLE TO MAKE THE REPAIRS, UH, ON THE PROPERTY.

THEREFORE, I MADE THE MOTION TO DEMOLISH.

SO JUST THE FACT THAT A PERMIT HAD BEEN PULLED DID NOT STOP ME FROM CHANGING THE RECOMMENDATION OF STAFF, UH, BECAUSE WE DID DEMOLISH THE BUILDING THAT THEY RECOMMENDED REPAIR.

AND IT GETS, IT'S DOWN TO NOW A SITUATION OF EACH INDIVIDUAL CASE.

THE THE THING FOR US RIGHT NOW IS LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE PROCESS AND DETERMINE DO WE WANT TO CONTINUE THAT KIND OF PROCESS, ALLOWING IT, UH, AND I AGREE WITH YOU, IF YOU CAN REPAIR IT, LET'S REPAIR IT.

BECAUSE IF WE KEEP IT ON THE TAX ROLLS, WE KEEP SOMEBODY IN THEIR HOME, IT'S A BETTER IDEA THAN DEMOLISHING IT IF WE CAN.

BUT IT'S, IT'S JUST AN ISSUE OF, OF PROCESS.

CAN I ASK ANOTHER QUESTION? I DON'T KNOW.

IT DEPENDS ON WHERE MIRANDA IS, .

IF, IF THE MIRANDA, IF KAYLA IS COMPLETE.

OH, WERE YOU THROUGH, UM, YEAH, TO GO AHEAD.

, , IF I APOLOGIZE ON THE NAME AGAIN, IF THE STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED REPAIRS, IS THERE A WAY BEFORE IT EVEN COMES HERE THAT YOU CAN DO SOMETHING LIKE A WHOLE HARMLESS, IF EVERYBODY'S AGREEING TO REPAIR IT SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO COME HERE UNTIL NECESSARY? WELL, THAT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME, BUT THIS ONE DIDN'T.

WELL THIS ONE AND, AND, AND CERTAIN CASES THEY DON'T.

THEY END UP HERE AND WE HAVE TO JUDGE ON IT.

IS THERE A WAY THAT IF THERE EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME SHEET OF MUSIC, THAT THE STAFF MAY HOLD, LIKE PULL THE CASE UNTIL IT NON-COMPLIANT THAT WAY? UM, YES.

WE DO WITHDRAW CASES.

UM, IF, IF ACTIVITY, IF HE HAD PULL, YOU KNOW, IF SAY SOMEONE PULLED THE PERMIT THREE DAYS AGO, GOT THE ROOFERS OUT THERE, GOT THE, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING GOING, ABSOLUTELY.

WE MAY NOT HAVE A FINALIZATION, BUT THERE'S SO MUCH ACTIVITY THAT'S OCCURRED.

WE DO HAVE THAT DISCRETION TO PULL THOSE, TO PULL THE CASES.

AGAIN, IT, IT IS ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS, SO WE CAN'T LIST EVERY CONTINGENCY WHERE THAT WOULD OCCUR.

BUT THERE ARE TIMES WE HAVE WHEN YOU SEE THAT, THAT WE'VE PULLED SOMETHING FROM AN AGENDA, THOSE, THOSE COULD BE EXACTLY THAT.

THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT'S TOTALLY CHANGED THE PROCESS AROUND, OR SOMEBODY HAS STEPPED IN OR SOMETHING HAS OCCURRED THAT, UH, WE DO WANNA KIND OF START THE CLOCK OVER OR GIVE A RENEWED EXTENSION OF THAT CLOCK WITHIN OUR PROCESSING BETWEEN THE OFFICER, BETWEEN THE OWNER, BETWEEN THE

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MANAGERS REVIEWING THE CASES OR ALL IN AGREEMENT EXACTLY.

THAT WE'RE, WE'RE WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT COMMUNICATION EFFORT, SOMETIME THE COMMUNICATION EFFORT DOESN'T EVEN START UNTIL THEY GET THESE HEARING ORDERS AND THEN IT KICKS PEOPLE INTO HIGH GEAR.

AND THAT'S AN UNFORTUNATE SITUATION 'CAUSE IT'S GONE SO LONG.

BUT IF THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES, THEN WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO DEFINITELY, UM, WORK WITH THE OWNERS IN THOSE, IN, IN THOSE INSTANCES, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF EVERYTHING FALLS INTO PLACE THAT WE NEED THEM TO BE AT A NEXT LEVEL, NOT JUST WITH, WITH SOME PROMISES, BUT SOMETHING CONCRETE THAT THEY ARE MOVING FORWARD ON.

SO, YES, SIR.

UM, HOLD HARMLESS, YOU MENTIONED HOLD HARMLESS.

THAT MIGHT NOT BE THE CORRECT PIECE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, BUT IT'S JUST WHERE IS THE CASE GOING? WHAT IS THE OWNER DOING? WHAT ARE THEY COMMITTING TO AND WHAT ARE THEY SHOWING IN ACTION? WELL, MY MENTION ON THAT WAS LIKE A WHOLE HARMLESS WHERE THEY AGREE TO DO CERTAIN THINGS AND IF IT DOESN'T PAN OUT THEN THEY END UP HERE.

BUT IF, IF, IF THERE'S A LONG PROCESS LIKE THAT, LIKE THIS ONE IN CERTAIN CASES, WE'VE SEEN SOME THAT COME IN HERE THAT PROBABLY COULD HAVE BEEN WORKED OUT A LONG TIME AGO INSTEAD OF ENDING UP HERE LIKE COUPLE OF WEEKS BACK, I THINK IT IS.

WE HAD ONE THAT SHOULD HAVE, I MEAN, JUST THEY WANTED TO DO EVERYTHING.

THEY HAD, EVERYTHING WORKED.

THEY BROUGHT MATERIALS, BUT THEY GOT ALL THE PAPERWORK TOO LATE WHEN THEY WERE WORKING.

SO, AND THEN IT FREES THIS BOARD UP FOR THE MORE SERIOUS CASES OF PROPERTY MAINTENANCE AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THAT GET REAL DEEP INTO THE WEEDS.

YES, SIR.

THAT IS SOMETHING WE DO REVIEW IN OUR INTERNAL REVIEWS THAT WE HAVE A, A MINIMUM OF TWO INTERNAL REVIEWS AND WE'RE TRYING TO EXACTLY THAT CATCH 'EM.

IS THERE A DIFFERENT TRACK THEY CAN TAKE BEFORE COMING TO THE BOARD? HAVE WE EXHAUSTED EVERYTHING? SOMETIMES SOMETHING WILL SHIFT IN BETWEEN AND WE DON'T CATCH IT ON THE TIMING, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING WE ABSOLUTELY PRIORITIZE WHEN WE'RE REVIEWING THESE CASES.

THANK YOU.

SENTIA.

GO AHEAD.

I DO ECHO WHAT KAYLA WAS SAYING, BUT, AND I, I SAY I FEEL THAT THE CRITERIA THAT WE HAVE SET FOR WHAT IS THE DEMO AND WHAT IS A REPAIR, SO IF IT'S RECOMMENDED FOR REPAIR, THEY ARE ALLOWED TO, UM, CONTINUE TO PULL PERMITS BECAUSE WE DO ASK THAT QUESTION.

AND THEN ALSO KIND OF THINKING WHAT MR. ANDERS SAID, IF THEY HAVE MADE SOME ACTIVITY, THEN MAYBE WE CAN PULL IT FROM THE AGENDA.

BUT I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD CHANGE WHAT THE CRITERIA IS SET FOR.

OKAY.

UH, THERE WAS ANOTHER ISSUE, MS. BROWN, THAT I CUT YOU OFF ON, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR CUTTING YOU OFF, EXCEPT IT NEEDED TO MOVE TO ADMINISTRATIVE AND I DIDN'T MAKE A NOTE ON IT.

, DO YOU REMEMBER WHY, WHY I CUT YOU OFF MY HEAD IS JUST, IT FEELS LIKE IT'S LIKE THIS BIG DEAL .

SO, UH, I THINK ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS THAT, UH, WHEN, UM, AND THIS IS ABOUT A PROPERTY, BUT WE'LL JUST SAY IT'S JUST PROPERTY A THAT WE HAD 10 10 VIOLATIONS.

10 VIOLATIONS ON IT.

AND SO THEY BRING IT IN TO US AS A, AS A REPAIR.

BUT, AND I ASKED HIM HOW MANY TIMES HAD HE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THE OWNER, YOU KNOW, THEY MAKE PROMISES I'M, OH YEAH, I'M GONNA FIX THIS.

AND THEY NEVER FIX IT.

SO WHEN IT COMES TO US, IT IS STILL UNDER REPAIR WITH 10 VIOLATION RATS ALL OVER THE PLACE.

I MEAN, REALLY, WHO'S GONNA REPAIR IT IF THEY DIDN'T REPAIR IT, YOU KNOW, SIX, SIX OR EIGHT MONTHS AGO? WHY DO YOU THINK THEY'RE GONNA REPAIR IT NOW? YOU KNOW, AND I, AND I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETIMES, UH, UH, AN ISSUE FOR COUNCIL PEOPLE WHO JUST SIT ON THEIR BACKSIDE AND DO NOTHING BUT COMPLAIN.

YOU KNOW? AND THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING IN THEIR COMMUNITIES.

I'M SORRY.

THAT'S JUST THE WAY I FEEL.

'CAUSE IT'S ALL POLITICAL, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T THINK IT'S RIGHT TO THE, THE PEOPLE WHO PAY TAXES AND STRUGGLE EVERY YEAR TO PAY THEIR LITTLE TAXES BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE MONEY.

BUT THEY COME IN HERE WITH THE CODE OFFICER WILL BRING 10 VIOLATIONS ON A PROPERTY THAT HASN'T BEEN FIXED, HASN'T HAD NOTHING PULLED ON IT, AND IT'S NOT GONNA BE FIXED.

BUT YOU WANNA REPAIR NO, DEMO IT, I I I CAN TELL YOU THIS, UM, IN GENERAL, DEMOLITION IS, IS IS THE LAST RESORT, WHETHER, WHETHER YOU GUYS, I, I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT SOME PEOPLE MIGHT DISAGREE, AND I GET IT, THAT IS THE CITY'S POSITION.

IT IS THE LAST RESORT.

THERE IS NO ONE IN CITY GOVERNMENT THAT WANTS TO JUST KICK PEOPLE OUTTA THE HOUSE AND DEMOLISH IT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T LISTEN TO THE CODE OFFICER.

SO THIS BOARD IS TASKED WITH MAKING THAT DETERMINATION.

IT'S, THAT'S THE BEST WAY I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

IT'S THE BOARD THAT IS, THIS BOARD IS TASKED WITH THAT.

IT IS A TOUGH TASK, WHICH IS WHY THIS IS THE ONLY BOARD IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO THAT HAS QUASI-JUDICIAL POWER.

I GET, I GET FRUSTRATION, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S WHY YOU, THIS

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BOARD IS HERE.

YOU HAVE QUASI-JUDICIAL POWER.

YOUR POWER HOLDS WEIGHT.

THE DETERMINATIONS IN THE DECISIONS THAT THIS BOARD MAKES HAVE TO BE APPEALED IN DISTRICT COURT.

SO, UM, I HEAR YOU.

UM, I, I CAN UNDERSTAND FRUSTRATION, BUT NO ONE'S GOING TO DEMOLISH A PROPERTY IF BY SOME CHANCE IT CAN BE SAVED.

WELL, IT, IT'S NOT ONLY JUST AN ISSUE OF OF BEING DEMOLISHED.

IT'S AN ISSUE OF, OF ALL THE THINGS THAT COME FOR THE BOARD AND IN TERMS OF WHAT MAKES YOU THINK A REPAIR IS GOING TO OCCUR AS A RESULT OF COMING TO THE B S B.

AND THE ANSWER IS A PSYCHOLOGICAL ANSWER.

AND I'M NOT A PSYCHOLOGIST.

UH, BUT IT'S VERY PROBABLE THAT WHEN YOU QUOTE, GET AN ORDER AS OPPOSED TO A TICKET , AND THAT ORDER COMES FROM A COURT, I E OR QUASI, UH, LEGAL, UH, CAPABILITIES, UH, IT MEANS A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THE RECIPIENT, OR AT LEAST MY INTERPRETATION IS IT WOULD RECEIVE MORE, UH, ATTENTION, UH, THAN JUST THE TICKET, IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT THAT WAY.

BECAUSE I'VE BEEN STOPPED PLENTY OF TIMES FOR SPEEDING AND I'VE GOTTEN THE TICKET.

BUT WHEN I HAVE TO GO TO COURT, THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY.

I GET A LITTLE MORE ATTENTION , OR I PAY A LITTLE MORE ATTENTION TO THAT TICKET.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE SITUATION IS.

UH, WHEN IT GETS TO US, UH, THEY UNDERSTAND IT'S THE LAST RESORT, I'VE GOTTA DO SOMETHING.

AND IF YOU DON'T DO SOMETHING IN TERMS OF REPAIR, THEN THEY'RE GONNA WIND UP WITHOUT A HOUSE.

AND WHILE WE LOOK AT BOTH CASES FOR REPAIR AND CASES FOR DEMOLITION, THE FIRST THING WE LOOK AT, OR AT LEAST FIRST THING I PERSONALLY LOOK AT IS, IS IT REPAIRABLE? DO WE NOT NEED TO TEAR IT DOWN? AND UNFORTUNATELY WE TEAR IT DOWN MORE THAN WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO TEAR DOWN, BUT THAT'S JUST THE WAY THE CASE HAPPENS TO BE.

UH, AND AGAIN, THAT'S A PERSONAL POSITION.

WHAT, WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT PROGRAM THAT I CAME UP WITH THAT SAVITA WAS TALKING ABOUT IN OUR MEETING ONE DAY WHERE IT WAS ACCEPTED? YOU KNOW, WE, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING WHERE, UH, WE HAVE OFFERED THAT, OR I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE UP TO US TO OFFER IT OR SOMEBODY OUT IN, NEVER, NEVER LAND TO OFFER IT ABOUT WHEN THE HOUSE IS, THEY, THEY DON'T, WHEN THE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THE FINANCIAL MEANS TO REPAIR IT AND IT'S GOT GOOD BONES, IT JUST NEEDS, YOU KNOW, ABOUT 50 TO $60,000 WORTH OF REPAIRS TO BRING IT UP TO CODE.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD GET A, UM, A BUYER TO BUY THE HOUSE AND THE BUY WITH THE, THE OWNER COULD FIND THE BUYER TO BUY THE HOUSE AND IT WOULD BE, HE WOULD SELL IT TO THIS GUY OR WHO A GIRL.

AND, UH, THEY WOULD FIX IT AND THEN THEY'D PUT IT ON THE MARKET AT ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY CAN AFFORD.

YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT? I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.

AND THAT'S A, THAT WOULD BE A GREAT PROGRAM.

OKAY.

I I, I WANNA MAKE SURE YOU, JUST TO CLARIFY, YOU WOULD SAY THE CITY, THIS BOARD GIVES A DEMO ORDER ON, I'M JUST DOING AN EXAMPLE.

THIS BOARD GIVES A DEMO ORDER ON A PROPERTY AND THEN WE NO, NOT A DEMO.

OKAY.

NOT A DEMO ON A REPAIR, BUT THE PEOPLE, THE PEOPLE CAN'T, CAN'T AFFORD TO REPAIR IT.

SO THEY, SOME THEY PUT IT, UH, THEY PUT A SIGN IN THE YARD FOR SALE BY OWNER, NOT BY THE BOARD, BY THE OWNER.

SOMEBODY COMES BY AND SAYS, OH YEAH, THAT'S A NICE LITTLE HOUSE.

I CAN FIX THAT FOR ABOUT 40, $50,000.

SO I BUY IT, AND THEN I WOULD PUT IT ON THE MARKET.

THE, THE PERSON HAS ALREADY GOTTEN THEIR, THE OWNER, THE ORIGINAL OWNER HAS ALREADY GOTTEN THEIR 40, $50,000.

THEN I PUT IT ON THE MARKET FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND TO, TO SOMEBODY.

AND LIKE IN, IN, ON THE WEST SIDE THAT PEOPLE, OR THE EAST SIDE WHERE PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY $500,000 HOUSES, YOU KNOW, AND YOU TALK ABOUT HOUSING STOCK, YOU KNOW, AND SO I, I, I, HERE, HERE, I'M CONFUSED AS TO HOW THE CITY WOULD BE INVOLVED IN A PRIVATE TRANSACTION BETWEEN TWO PARTIES.

NO, THE CITY WOULD NOT BE INVOLVED.

IT WOULD NOT BE.

BUT LET, LET ME DO THIS BECAUSE HER RECOMMENDATION IS EXTREMELY SOUND.

AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PERSONAL OPINIONS ONLY.

UH, AND I DON'T THINK WE EVER WROTE THE THING UP.

AND IT WOULD, IT IS GOING TO EVENTUALLY HAVE TO HAVE COUNCIL APPROVAL.

WHY DON'T YOU AND I WRITE IT UP AND THEN WE'LL GIVE IT, UH, TO LEGAL TO DO SOME LEGAL ADDITIONS OF EMMETT STU SAVITA AND A FRIEND OF HERS THAT SHE WAS TALKING TO WORKS FOR THE CITY.

THEY HAD ALREADY APPROVED IT.

RIGHT.

I HEAR MS. BROWN RIGHT NOW, UH, UH, UH, MS. RYE IS ON LEAVE, SO I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

I I, YOU'RE JUST, YOU, YOU GUYS ARE ASKING A QUESTION I CAN'T ANSWER, BUT IF YOU WANNA WRITE SOMETHING UP, WE'LL, WE'LL LOOK AT IT.

BUT IT WAS APPROVED.

IT WAS APPROVED IN A CONCEPTUAL ISSUE AS OPPOSED TO BEING APPROVED.

AND IT, AND EVENTUALLY IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE CITY COUNCIL ISSUE.

THAT'S THE REASON WHY I SAY LET'S WRITE IT UP.

UH, AND THAT WAY WE CAN, WE CAN GET LEGAL ADVICE ON IT AND THEN PRESENT IT TO CITY COUNCIL.

'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE IT'S GONNA HAVE TO COME FROM, UH, IS SOME KIND OF CITY COUNCIL, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA,

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BUT, UH, JUST 'CAUSE I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA IS IMMATERIAL.

LET'S WRITE IT UP AND THAT WAY WOULD, WOULD WRITE IT UP AND WE'LL GET IT TO THE WHOLE PANEL AND LET THE WHOLE PANEL PROVIDE INPUT TO IT.

THAT MAY BE THE SCOPE OF THE BOARD.

YEAH, I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S BEYOND THE SCOPE OF THE BOARD, BUT IT'S BEYOND THE SCOPE OF THE BOARD.

IT'S BEYOND THE SCOPE OF THE BOARD, BUT IT IS NOT BEYOND THE SCOPE OF A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO WHERE WE MIGHT HAVE THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE A HOME TO SOMEONE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN TORN DOWN OR NOT REPAIRED.

SO I, THAT'S THE REASON WHY I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA AND THAT'S THE REASON I WANTED TO HELP YOU WRITE IT UP WHERE WE CAN GET IT.

MY RECOMMENDATION WITH THAT IS DON'T PRESENT IT AS A BOARD ISSUE BECAUSE THAT'S FINE.

THAT'S OUT OF THE SCOPE OF THE BOARD.

THAT'S FINE.

UH, GROUND AND I WILL PRESENT IT.

I WOULD SAY YOU CAN'T FORCE SOMEONE TO SELL THEIR PROPERTY REGARDLESS, LIKE THAT.

THAT SOUNDS KIND OF LIKE FORCED SALES.

UH, THE BOARD CAN'T ORDER SOMEBODY TO SELL THEIR HOUSE.

UH, BUT WE DO HAVE A, UH, A, UH, DEMOLITION DIVERSION.

UM, I KNOW THAT THERE WAS ONLY, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY HOUSES WERE PART OF THE, THE, THE DEMOTION DIVERSION PROGRAM? ALL RIGHT.

MIKE SHANNON AGAIN, TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, THERE WAS A MILLION DOLLARS SET ASIDE IN A FISCAL YEAR, 2022, UH, THE ESTIMATED APPROXIMATELY 10 HOUSES, UH, THAT THEY WERE GONNA TRY TO REPAIR.

THERE ARE A COUPLE UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND REPAIR RIGHT NOW, UH, WITH A LIST OF A FEW OTHERS, UH, IDENTIFIED AS POSSIBLE CANDIDATES.

BUT, UM, IT WAS A MILLION DOLLARS WITH AN ESTIMATE OF 10.

YEAH, THE DIVERSION IDEA IS A GREAT IDEA AND WE AT LEAST I PERSONALLY SUPPORT THAT IDEA ALSO.

BUT MS. BROWN'S THOUGHT IS IS ONE STEP IN, IN ADDITION TO THE DIVERSION PROGRAM, UH, LIKE I SAID, IT'S A, YOU, I I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I MEAN, YOU CAN ADD THAT AS AN ADDITION TO THE PROGRAM LIKE THIS.

YEAH.

THE CITY SET ASIDE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FUNDS, BUT THE CITY ALSO PARTNERS WITH PEOPLE.

SO FINDING A PARTNER THAT WOULD BE WILLING TO PURCHASE THE HOMES AND RESELL THEM IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD GO HAND IN HAND WITH THE DIVERSION PROGRAM.

YEP.

SO WE MIGHT NEED, WE MIGHT NEED YOUR HELP ON THAT.

WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS IF THERE'S ANY MORE ADMINISTRATIVE ISSUES DIRECTLY DEALING WITH THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD, I WE CAN CONTINUE THOSE.

ANY ANYMORE.

I'M JUST GONNA ASK US TO ADJOURN.

LET'S, LET'S, LET'S WRAP IT UP WITHOUT, WITHOUT OBJECTION.

WE ARE ADJOURNED BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT.