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WE'RE GONNA GET STARTED IN ABOUT 30 SECONDS.
GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME TO THE PLANNING COMMUNITY, UH, DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE MEETING FOR FEBRUARY THE 23RD.
WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, SO WE ARE GONNA GET STARTED HERE SHORTLY.
UH, WE'LL START WITH THE ROLL CALL.
COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE CHAIR ROCHA GARCIA HERE, CHAIR, WE HAVE A QUORUM.
AND AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR, FOR UNDERSTANDING AND FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
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IMMEDIATELY WITH THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM JANUARY 19TH, 2023.SECOND, THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE TABLE.
ALL IN FAVOR? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? MOTION CARRIES.
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YOU.WE WILL MOVE ON NOW TO, UM, PUBLIC COMMENT.
I, I DO WANNA ASK THE COMMITTEE IF IT'S OKAY IF WE MOVE ITEM NUMBER THREE, UH, TO GO FIRST BEFORE ITEM NUMBER TWO, BECAUSE, UM, OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER HAS A, A, A MEETING THAT SHE NEEDS TO GET TO.
SO IF THAT'S OKAY WITH THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, AND I THINK IT'S RELEVANT TO THE ENTIRE DISCUSSION ANYWAY.
WE WILL START NOW WITH PUBLIC COMMENT, AND THE FIRST PERSON THAT WE HAVE REGISTERED TO SPEAK IS UEL, BUT WELL, YOU ARE ALSO REGISTERED AT THE END, SO, AND I DON'T SEE HER.
SO, AND SO WE'LL COUNT HER THEN AS LAST, UM, KEVIN LAMEL, KEVIN, THE FLOOR'S, YOURS, AND YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY CECILIA GALVAN.
AND THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR COMING.
WE HAVE A LOT OF EXCITEMENT GOING ON THIS MORNING.
MY NAME IS KEVIN LAMEL, TOP BOARD SECRETARY.
I AM VERY FLABBERGASTED WITH THE LANDLORDS, A K H, UM, SLUM LORDS.
THERE ARE NO RESPONSIBILITY ON PROPERTIES.
TENANTS NEED TO, TO THRIVE, TO LIVE OR, OR LIVE IN GOOD LIVING CONDITIONS.
TENANTS ARE NOT ANIMALS, BUT HUMAN BEINGS.
AND I'M, I'M, I'M GONNA READ THIS HERE FOR PROTECTIVE APARTMENT INSPECTION PROGRAM, A K A BAD ACTOR LANDLORD PROGRAM.
THE DEMANDS PASS A PROACTIVE APARTMENT INSPECTION PROGRAM WITH THE PRIMARY GOAL OF PROTECTING RENTERS FROM UNSAFE CONDITIONS.
THERE SHOULD BE ONLY ONE OPPORTUNITY FOR LANDLORDS TO APPEAR TO APPEAL EACH VIOLATION SLASH CITATION, ALLOWING MULTIPLE CHANCES FOR LANDLORDS TO APPEAL WILL SHUT, WILL SLOW DOWN THE PROCESS, AND KEEP RENTERS FROM RECEIVING SWIFT REPAIRS AND THEIR HOMES.
WE SHOULD NOT ALLOW LANDLORDS TO REMAIN IN THE PROGRAM FOR MANY MULTIPLE CYCLES.
IF A LANDLORD HAS BEEN ON THE LIST AND IS STILL REFUSING TO MAKE NECESSARY REPAIRS, THE CITY MUST BE WILLING TO STEP IN AND ESCALATE TO FORCE ACTION TO PROTECT RENTER'S SAFETY, INCLUDING BEING WILLING TO SUE NEG NEG, UH, NEGLIGENT LANDLORDS.
AND THIS IS THE BILL, UH, ATTENDANCE BILL OF RIGHTS.
THIS IS DEMANDS PASSED ATTENDANCE LAW.
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GAVAN, FOLLOWED BY WILLIE RECTOR.PLEASE BEAR WITH ME AS I GET VERY NO NERVOUS OF PUBLIC SPEAKING.
OKAY, SO, HELLO, MY NAME IS CECILIA, AND I AM A RESIDENT AT SEVEN OAKS.
NOW, COLIN MEDICAL, I AM HERE TO SPEAK REGARDING, UH, THE APPEALS PROCESS REQUEST MADE BY LANDLORDS.
ONCE WE WERE INFORMED OF THE PENDING APPEALS PROCESS AND THE ADDITIONAL 20 DAYS OF THEIR APPEAL, I WAS PERPLEXED AS TO WHY THIS WOULD BE ALLOWED.
THERE ARE SEVERAL REASONS AS TO WHY I'M CONFUSED, UH, WITH THIS REQUEST.
FIRST, LANDLORDS ARE STATING THAT THE RE UH, THAT THE REQUEST OF MAINTENANCE ISSUES MADE BY RESIDENTS AND VALIDATED BY YOUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ARE FALSE.
OR DO THEY FEEL THAT THE CODE OF FIRST ENFORCEMENT OFFICER IS NOT QUALIFIED TO VERIFY THE VIOLATIONS OF CODES? THAT IS HOW I PERCEIVE IT.
THEY ARE, UH, THAT THEY ARE NOT QUALIFIED, AND WE ARE NOT, UH, KNOWLEDGEABLE OR, AND THEY ARE NOT KNOWLEDGEABLE.
IF THEY ARE GIVEN AN APPEAL PROCESS, WHAT THEN WILL THEY NOT BE RESPONSIBLE TO CORRECT THE MAINTENANCE ISSUES? WILL WE HAVE TO LIVE WITH NO HAAC SYSTEM, NO HOT OR RUNNING WATER? CONTINUOUS OVERFLOW OF SEWAGE.
AND WHY WOULD THAT, AND WHY WOULD WE HAVE TO WAIT 20 PLUS DAYS FOR THESE ISSUES TO BE FIXED? THAT'S THE OUTCOME OF MY NEXT QUESTION.
WHAT ARE, ARE WE THE RESIDENTS TO DO WHILE WE WAIT? I WORK IN AN OFFICE AND I AM TO STAY UN BATHED, UN LAUNDRY, UN UN MY LAUNDRY UNWASHED RISK OF AN ADMISSION TO A HOSPITAL DUE TO MY CONDITIONS.
AND WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN? IF THIS IS WHAT WE ARE TO DO, WE RISK C P S INVOLVEMENT.
I MEAN, OUR CHILDREN GO TO SCHOOL, THEY'RE MANDATED, SCHOOLS ARE MANDATED TO REPORT SUCH NEGLECT TO C P S.
NOW WE HAVE THE POSSIBILITY OF REPERCUSSIONS, AND THIS IS LIKELIHOOD IT WOULD BE ON OUR RECORDS.
I, MYSELF WAS MINUTES AWAY FROM UNNECESSARY ADMISSION DUE TO NO, HAVE A SYSTEM WORKING.
UM, I HADN'T BEEN INFORMING THE OFFICE FOR SEVERAL WEEKS, AND I WAS ALWAYS TOLD WE HAVE A LOT OF MAINTENANCE ISSUES.
UM, AS WHEN I DID TELL THEM THAT I WAS ABOUT TO CALL THE AMBULANCE FOR AN ADMISSIONS, THEY DID FIX IT WITHIN THAT AFTERNOON.
WHY DO WE HAVE TO WAIT OVER 30 DAYS FOR OBVIOUS ISSUES TO BE ADDRESSED? WE'RE WE'RE ASSISTING IN THEIR UPKEEP OF THEIR MATE OF THEIR PROPERTIES.
WILLIE RECTOR, FOLLOWED BY DEBORAH WATTS, WILLIE RECER, DEBRA WATTS.
DEBORAH WATTS WILL BE FOLLOWED BY SYLVIA FLORES.
HELLO, MY NAME'S DEBORAH WATTS.
UH, I'M A RESIDENT OF CO CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT.
I AM HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT, UH, THE PROACTIVE, UH, APARTMENT INSPECTION, UH, PROGRAM, AND ABOUT TENANT BILL, TENANT RIGHTS, UM, UH, OUR DECISION AS A GROUP OF ORGANIZATION, UH, IN SUPPORT, UH, THE PO THIS POLICY, UH, RESOLUTES, UH, TO, TO CLEAR THE WAY OF TENANT TO ENFORCE ACCOUNTABLE AND, UH, FOR THEIR LANDLORDS, UH, FOR, AND, AND, AND WE ALSO WANT TO, UH, ACCOUNT, UH, TO BE FAST WITH, WITH THE END OF RESULTS.
RENTERS HAVE SAFETY, SAFETY, UH, LIVING STANDARDS.
AND, UH, FOR MANY PEOPLE, UH, THE, UH, IS DESPERATE TO LIVE IN A CONDITION, UH, LIKE, LIKE NOT HAVING AIR CONDITIONER, RUNNING WATER AND, AND, UH, FELL FELLY WIRE.
UM, I, I LIVED WITHOUT, UH, AIR CONDITIONER FOR THREE MONTHS LAST MONTH.
IT WAS, UH, UNTIL WE ORGANIZED TOGETHER, UH, THAT WE STARTED THE FINAL TO FINALLY SEE MOVEMENT, UH, UH, ON OUR NEEDS.
UM, WHAT WE REALLY, UH, NEED, AND SOME OF THAT THING IS, IS TO HAVE, UH, UH, A GOAL PROTECTING, UH, RENTERS UN UNSAFE, UH, LIVING CONDITIONS.
WE, WE, UM, SHOULD NOT HAVE LANDLORDS TO REMAIN IN THE PROGRAM, UH, UH, FOR MANY MULTIPLE CYCLES.
UH, IF, IF A, A LANDLORD HAS BEEN LISTED, REFUSING TO, UH, MAKE
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NECESSARY REPAIRS.SYLVIA FLORES, FOLLOWED BY KEISHA BROWN.
MY NAME IS SYLVIA FLORES, EXCUSE ME.
AND I'M A TOP MEMBER, LEADER AND RESIDENT DISTRICT SEVEN.
LAST SUMMER, I EXPERIENCED LIVING IN THE HOTTEST SUMMER RECORD AT SEVEN OAKS APARTMENTS.
AFTER MANY ATTEMPTS TO GET THE PROBLEM SOLVED AND TO HAVE A DISTANT AC UNIT, I WAS FORCED TO CALL CODE ENFORCEMENT.
I BEGAN TO ORGANIZE WITH MY NEIGHBORS AND DISCUSS THAT OUR LIVING CONDITIONS WERE NOT ACCEPTABLE, AND THAT WE HAD TO SPEAK UP AND LET THE CITY KNOW WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON WITH US RENTERS.
IT'S BEEN MONTHS WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON GETTING THIS POLICY FOR PROPERTY OWNERS WHO ARE NEGLIGENT TO THEIR RANCHERS TO BE REGISTERED AS AS BAD ACTOR LANDLORD LIST, SO THAT NO OTHER RANCHERS IN SAN ANTONIO HAVE TO LIVE THROUGH THE SAME SITUATION AS MYSELF AND NEIGHBORS DID.
THIS LANDLORDS NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR FAILING TO PROVIDE BASIC, LIVABLE CONDIT STANDARDS.
THERE IS NO MORE TIME TO SIT AROUND AND IGNORE OUR DEMANDS.
WE HAVE LIVED THROUGH IT AND HAD, AND THIS HAS TO STOP.
THIS IS NO MORE TIME TO SIT AROUND AND TRY TO PROLONG IT.
RENTERS NEED TO BE PROTECTED FROM RETALIATION, EVICTIONS AND FEAR RANCHERS ARE HUMAN BEINGS.
WHY BE TREATED DIFFERENTLY? WE WHY WE HAVE TO TAKE ACTION WHEN THE CITY HAS A TASK ENFORCEMENT CODE, ENFORCEMENT TASK FORCE CODE ENFORCEMENT SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT.
WHY? WHAT IS GOING ON? WE NEED THIS POLICY FOR A BETTER LIVING CONDITION AND FASTER REPAIRS BEING DONE FOR RENTERS.
ORGANIZING WITH NEIGHBORS SEEMS LIKE A THREAT TO THE LANDLORDS, BECAUSE IT WILL, IT WILL TAKE THEM OUT OF THEIR COMFORT ZONE.
AND WE HAVE TO TAKE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR BEING NEGLECT, AND WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR BEING NEGLIGENT TO THE RENTERS.
YOU HAVE WHAT YOU HAVE BECAUSE OF THE MONEY THAT COMES OUT OF OUR POCKETS DIRECTLY TO YOURS.
IF LANDLORDS RECEIVE A VIOLATION, THAT MEANS YOU HAVE A PROBLEM.
WHY WAIT FOR A CITATION? WHY TRY TO APPEAL? NO NEED FOR THAT.
LANDLORDS NEED TO SEE BOTH ENDS, NOT JUST THEIR END.
KEISHA BROWN, FOLLOWED BY ERNESTINA MARTINEZ.
I AM KEISHA BROWN, A TOP MEMBER.
I AM HERE TO COMMENT ABOUT THE NEED OF FOR LANDLORDS WHO HAVE A MULTIPLE VIOLATIONS, NOT CITATIONS, FOR LIFE-THREATENING MAINTENANCE ISSUES TO BE PLACED ON THE BAD ACTOR'S LIST.
THE REASON BEING IS BECAUSE I WAS RETALIATED ON FOR SPEAKING UP FOR, UH, FOR BEING IN A SITUATION WHERE THERE WAS MOLD AND MILDEW.
I WAS LIVING ON PROPERTY FOR SEVEN YEARS WHEN I SPOKE UP, THEY DID NOT RENEW MY LEASE.
I WAS LEFT HOMELESS FOR FOUR TO SIX MONTHS.
I PROBABLY TOOK CARE OF SOME OF Y'ALL IN THE HOSPITAL WHO'S TAKING CARE OF US BECAUSE WE SPEAK OUT.
WE CAN'T GET OUR LEASE RENEWED BECAUSE WE SPEAK OUT.
WE HAVE TO LIVE IN MILDEW AND MOLD BECAUSE WE'RE SCARED OF OUR RENT GOING UP HIGHER OR WE ARE BEING RETALIATED AGAINST OR EVICTED BECAUSE WE SPEAK OUT.
I HAD TWO JOBS, BUT BECAUSE I WAS LEFT HOMELESS, I COULDN'T BATHE MYSELF.
I COULDN'T CLEAN MYSELF PROPERLY.
SENT MY SON TO LIVE WITH SOME STRANGER BECAUSE THEY SAW MY SITUATION NOT KNOWING IF HE WAS GETTING AR IN HARM'S WAY.
SO MY THING IS THIS, PLEASE UNDERSTAND, I'M HERE.
WE NEED TO, TO PASS THE BILL OF TENANT RIGHTS WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH INSTEAD OF WAITING UNTIL JULY.
RENTERS HAVE BEEN ORGANIZING AND PUSHING FOR THIS RESOLUTION TO MOVE FORWARD FOR FIVE MONTHS ALREADY.
HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE THE RIGHTS TO FOR US TO ORGANIZE? MUST BE IN THE TENANT BILL OF RIGHTS.
RENTERS TALK TO THEIR NEIGHBORS.
WE MUST ORGANIZE CONTINUALLY AROUND PROBLEMS IN THEIR COMPLEXES WITHOUT BEING RETALIATED AGAINST AT THE RISK OF RETALIATION THROUGH EVICTION RIGHT NOW, UM, WHICH I'M PLACED UPON.
THE CITY SHOULD NOT ALLOW THIS TO CONTINUE TO BE THE, TO BE THE CASE.
LANGUAGE JUSTICE IS A MUST FOR A CITY WHERE SO MANY RESIDENTS DON'T SPEAK ENGLISH AS A FIRST LANGUAGE.
DOCUMENTS SHOULD BE PROVIDED TO TENANTS IN BOTH LANGUAGES.
WHAT IF IT WAS YOU ALL? WHAT IF YOU WERE LIVING IN THIS TYPE OF SITUATION BECAUSE OF MAINTENANCE? YOU KNOW, I'M NOT A HOMEOWNER JUST YET, BUT I WILL BE.
THANK YOU, MS. BROWN MARTINEZ, FOLLOWED BY ANI SHAVER.
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JEFF HOLE.UH, AT, ON APACHE COURTS, EVERY OTHER MONTH, THERE'S A MURDER EVERY OTHER MONTH.
AT CHATHAM APARTMENTS OPPORTUNITY HOME, UH, THERE'S A, A, A DISABLED MAN THAT JUST HAD A STROKE THAT HAS A TARGET ON HIS BACK BECAUSE RESIDENTS ARE RETALIATING AGAINST HIM.
AND, UH, MYSELF, SOMEBODY HELD A GUN TO MY HEAD AND SOMEBODY HELD A GUN TO MY HEAD BECAUSE OF RETALIATION.
UH, I, I'M A DISTRICT THREE RESIDENT AS WELL AS MR. LL, UH, AND, UH, I'VE BEEN CONTACTING, UH, THE VIE RUN'S OFFICE.
I CONTACTED YOUR SISTER BEFORE YOU CAME IN.
IT ALL TURNED INTO PHOTO OPS, WHICH OPPORTUNITY? HOME, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING.
AND THERE'S ALREADY PEOPLE DYING.
YOU NEED TO DO SOMETHING BEFORE YOU SEE ME ON TV.
NEXT, THE NEXT VICTIM, OKAY, TO THE DEMANDS, ATTENDANCE, BILL OF RIGHTS PASS, ATTENDANCE, BILL OF RIGHTS WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH.
WE NEED TO ORGANIZE OUR NEIGHBORS AROUND, UH, COMPLEXES AROUND SAN ANTONIO, UH, TO GET SOME TYPE OF RELIEF.
UH, SOMEHOW, YOU KNOW, UH, WE GO TO CITY COUNCIL, WE GO TO, UH, OPPORTUNITY HOME MEETINGS.
UH, HOPE ORGANIZING AND ATTENDANCE BILL OF RIGHTS WILL REPAIRED AT, THERE'S A, UH, WE LIVE IN A MULTICULTURAL SOCIETY HERE IN SAN ANTONIO.
WE NEED, UH, AND WE NEED MORE PEOPLE TO, UH, TRANSLATE IN SPANISH.
MARCO AIA, FOLLOWED BY ALLISON BRIM.
CAN I GET MOVED TO THE END? YES.
JEFF, JEFF HULL, ARE YOU HERE? YES.
YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY CRYSTAL MOYA.
I FORGOT MY WALLET IN THE CAR.
UM, MY NAME IS JEFF HULL, AM A RESIDENT COUNSEL PRESIDENT FOR VIATRAN CASEY, AND THIS IS MY SECOND TERM AS THEIR PRESIDENT.
IN THE THREE YEARS THAT I HAVE BEEN THERE, I HAVE REACHED OUT TO EVERY SINGLE RESIDENT, UH, CITY COUNCIL MEMBER TO OUR MAYOR, TO JOAQUIN CASTRO, LLOYD DOGGETT, AND FINALLY HAD TO WRITE AN EMAIL TO THE WHITE HOUSE TO FINALLY GET ATTENTION.
WE NEED THIS BILL OF RIGHTS TO BE PASSED, TO PROTECT OUR RESIDENTS, ESPECIALLY THOSE OF US LIVING BENEATH THE POVERTY LEVEL FROM RETALIATION, FEAR-MONGERING, AND THE TOXIC BEHAVIORS OF OUR UPPER MANAGEMENT, AND THOSE IN CHARGE OF OUR SITUATIONS, AND WHO CAN DETERMINE WHETHER WE LIVE THERE OR NOT.
I AM IN THE MIDDLE OF A COURT BATTLE WHERE THEY LIED UNDER OATH IN COURT, AND I GUESS THEY DIDN'T REALIZE THAT I'M SMART ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND THAT I HAVE RIGHTS.
SO I'VE APPEALED IT TO COUNTY COURT.
NOW, THEY DON'T WANNA GO TO COURT BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOTHING AND THEY WANNA SETTLE.
THIS KIND OF BEHAVIOR IS UNACCEPTABLE.
THEY, THEY GO ON THE IGNORANCE OF RESIDENTS WHO ARE SENIOR CITIZENS WHO DON'T SPEAK ENGLISH, WHO DON'T HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING, AND WHO GREW UP IN DECADES WHEN HISPANICS AND AFRICAN AMERICANS DID NOT HAVE A VOICE.
AND WHEN WE REACH OUT, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO OUR COUNCIL MEMBER, WHEN WE REACH OUT TO YOU, YOU EXPRESS THAT YOU WANT TO TALK TO US, BUT THERE'S NO FOLLOW THROUGH THREE YEARS I'VE BEEN WAITING, AND NOW I'M HAVING THE BATTLE FOR MY HOME.
WHAT THEY DO IS THEY MAKE THESE CASES SO THAT WE CANNOT PROVE THEIR RETALIATION, THEIR HARASSMENT IN OUR BUILDING 11 STORY BUILDING.
SO I CAN'T PROVE MY CASE OF HARASSMENT.
CRYSTAL MOYA, FOLLOWED BY CELINE WILLIAMS. GOOD MORNING, COUNCILWOMAN.
I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM NUMBER TWO.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT ME TO SPEAK NOW.
YES, IT'S ALL PUBLIC COMMENT RIGHT NOW.
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OKAY, AWESOME.WELL, GOOD MORNING, COUNCILWOMAN AND EVERYONE IN THE ROOM.
I'M, MY NAME IS CRYSTAL MOYA AGAIN.
I HAVE BEEN WORKING IN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING INDUSTRY FOR APPROXIMATELY 20 YEARS.
UH, I'VE BEEN PROVIDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS, AND THIS IS A VERY PASSIONATE SUBJECT FOR ME.
UM, I'M HERE TO LET YOU KNOW, AND ALSO REPRESENTATION OF THE SAN ANTONIO APARTMENT ASSOCIATION THAT WE ARE HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE RECOMMENDATION THAT HAS COME OUT AS A RESULT OF THE HARD WORK THAT EVERYONE ON THE TASK FORCE HAS DONE.
OUR MEMBERS AND RENTERS AND EVERYONE ALIKE HAVE WORKED IN GOOD FAITH ALONGSIDE EACH OTHER AND MADE SEVERAL COMPROMISES.
THE ONE THING IS VERY CLEAR THAT WE ALL WANT THE SAME THING.
WE WANT TO LIVE IN OR PROVIDE SAFE, QUALITY AND AFFORDABLE HOMES.
WORKING TOGETHER, THE TASK FORCE CAME UP WITH THE BEST POLICY THAT CAN BE EFFECTIVE.
THE TASK FORCE MET FOR MORE THAN 12 MEETINGS.
HOURS OF DISCUSSION, INCLUDING VARYING OPINIONS, WERE CONSIDERED TO REACH A SOLID AND MUTUALLY AGREED UPON CONSENSUS THAT WILL BEST SERVE ALL OF THE STAKEHOLDERS INVOLVED, PRIMARILY THE RESIDENTS WE SERVE.
NO ONE GOT EVERYTHING THEY WANTED, OBVIOUSLY.
THUS, THIS IS WHY WE, WE HAVE THESE MEETINGS AND DISCUSSIONS, BUT AGREEMENTS WERE REACHED.
EVERY VOTE TO REACH A COMPROMISE WAS EITHER UNANIMOUS OR A SUPER MAJORITY.
WE BELIEVE THAT IF ADOPTED, THIS IS A GOOD POLICY.
WE ASK THAT YOU HONOR, THE TASK FORCE'S WORK AS PRESENTED BY THE CITY STAFF.
AGAIN, A LOT OF COMPROMISES WERE MADE, AND THEY'RE ALL INTERCURRENT CONNECTED.
SO ANY TWEAK TO ANYTHING THAT WAS ALREADY AGREED UPON WILL E ESSENTIALLY AFFECT EVERYTHING ELSE.
WE ASK THAT WE, THAT YOU RESPECT THE PROCESS AND THE HARD WORK THAT WAS MADE BY MANY, MANY PEOPLE.
AGAIN, I AM AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
UM, I DEAL WITH INSPECTIONS ALL THE TIME.
I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS FOR 20 YEARS.
WE WANNA PROVIDE A LOT OF PRIVACY FOR OUR RESIDENTS AS WELL.
AND CONTINUOUS INSPECTIONS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT THEY LOVE ALL THE TIME.
I MEAN, WE ARE ALREADY REGULATED BY THE STATE, BY CITY BONDS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
SO ADDING ADDITIONAL INSPECTIONS CAN DEFINITELY HURT OUR RESIDENTS AS WELL.
CELINE WILLIAMS, FOLLOWED BY JEANETTE ELLER.
CELINE WILLIAMS. JEANETTE ELLER FOLLOWED, FOLLOWED BY OEL REJO.
WELL, FOLLOWED BY KAYLA MIRANDA.
ALL RIGHT, LEMME PUT THIS DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
UM, SO I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE RESOLUTION TO SUPPORT TENANT'S RIGHTS.
UM, ULTIMATELY THERE ARE SEVERAL ISSUES THAT WE SAW IN THE RESOLUTION LANGUAGE.
UM, THERE WAS A LACK OF LANGUAGE REGARDING EQUITY.
UM, CONSIDERING THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO PASSED, UH, AN ORDINANCE A COUPLE YEARS BACK, THAT, UH, RACISM IS A PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS.
UM, TO OVERLOOK THAT IS EXTREMELY DISRESPECTFUL TO OUR MAJORITY HISPANIC, UM, RESIDENTS HERE.
ALSO, THIS LACK OF LANGUAGE, EQUITY, LANGUAGE ACCESS.
UM, RIGHT NOW, I, I DIDN'T WALK IN AT THE FIRST MOMENT, BUT, UH, WE HAVE A TRANSLATOR PERSON WHO NEEDS TRANSLATION, AND THEY WERE HAVING TROUBLE FINDING TRANSLATION, YOU KNOW, SO, ALL THAT TO SAY IS THAT ULTIMATELY WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE UNDERSTANDING WHAT IS GOING ON IN CITY COUNCIL.
WHAT IS GOING ON IN THEIR LEASES? WHAT IS GOING ON IN THEIR NOTICES TO VACATE.
UM, I THINK ALSO SOMETHING THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED TODAY IS A TIMELINE ABOUT THIS, UM, RESOLUTION FOR TENANTS RIGHTS.
UM, ULTIMATELY, IT'S WAY TOO LONG.
I THINK IT'S COMPLETELY DISRESPECTFUL TO ALL THE OTHER COMMUNITY, UM, THAT HAS ALREADY COME FORWARD.
WHETHER THAT'S A OPPORTUNITY HOME, WHETHER THAT'S MY CITY, IS MY HOME, ALL THESE OTHER COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS THAT SUPPORT A RESOLUTION FOR TENANTS RIGHTS, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE NONE OF THIS IS NEW.
AND TO SEE THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO WATERED DOWN THE LANGUAGE IS, I THINK, UH, IT'S, IT'S HARSH BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT NONE OF IT IS NEW.
AND IT IS ALL EXISTING LAW, ALL EXISTING PROPERTY CODE, ALL EXISTING STATE CODE, UM, SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE.
UM, ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE RIGHTS THAT SHOULD BE AFFORDED TO CITIZENS ALREADY.
AND, UM, THE LACK OF LANGUAGE EQUITY, UM, THIS PROPOSED TIMELINE IS WAY TOO LONG.
AND, UM, ULTIMATELY THIS RESOLUTION FOR TENANTS RIGHTS NEEDS TO BE PASSED.
WILL KAYLA, MIRANDA, KAYLA WILL BE FOLLOWED.
NO, THAT WAS ELLE KAYLA, FOLLOWED BY MARCO
HELLO, MY NAME'S KAYLA MIRANDA, UM, FROM DISTRICT FIVE.
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MEMBER AND DIRECTOR OF COALITION TENANT JUSTICE.I'M ALSO A PUBLIC HOUSING TENANT AT AZA BOCCE COURTS.
UM, THE TENANT BILL OF RIGHTS IS NOT SOMETHING NEW.
I, UH, ALONG WITH, UH, JAMES HAMILTON AND A FEW OTHER, UH, SAHA RESIDENTS, UH, NOW, OPPORTUNITY HOMES STARTED ON THIS PROCESS OVER THREE YEARS AGO.
AND IT'S JUST NOW COMING UP HERE.
TENANT'S RIGHTS WERE NEEDED YEARS AGO.
IF YOU LOOK BACK AT THE HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY, THERE WAS A TIME WHEN YOU HAD TO OWN LAND TO VOTE.
YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE TO OWN A PROPERTY TO BE RESPECTED.
YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE TO OWN A PROPERTY TO HAVE YOUR VOICE HEARD.
EVERYONE DESERVES THE SAME RESPECT AS EVERY OTHER INDIVIDUAL THAT LIVES HERE.
A LOT OF THESE LANDLORDS AND PROPERTY OWNERS ARE NOT EVEN PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THIS CITY.
THEY DON'T TAKE CARE OF THEIR TENANTS, AND IT'S NOT RIGHT.
AND THE PEOPLE WHO SUFFER ARE THE ONES WHO ARE SPENDING THE MAJORITY OF THEIR PAYCHECKS.
THEY'RE HARD EARNED MONEY TO PAY TO USE THIS SPACE, TO HAVE A SAFE PLACE TO LIVE WITHOUT HOUSING STABILITY.
YOUR KIDS CAN'T FOCUS AT SCHOOL.
YOUR HEALTH DETERIORATES BECAUSE YOUR MENTAL HEALTH AND PHYSICAL HEALTH DETERIORATE.
AND IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THAT THE TENANTS HAVE THEIR VOICES HEARD NOW.
AND OUR FINAL SPEAKER, WILL, SPEAKER WILL BE MARCO UNA.
UH, THANK Y'ALL FOR, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL'S PRESENCE HERE.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO JUST ALSO QUICKLY SAY LIKE, Y'ALL KNOW THE DEMANDS THAT OUR MEMBERS HAVE, RIGHT? AND I WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR ORGANIZATION AND LIKE, WHAT IT MEANS TO BE MEMBER LED AND KIND OF HOW IT PLAYS INTO WHAT YOU KNOW IS GOING ON TODAY.
UM, WE'RE A MEMBER LED ORGANIZATION, WHICH MEANS THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE UP TEXAS ORGANIZING PROJECT ARE PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF, RIGHT? BEFORE I WAS AN EMPLOYEE HERE.
UH, AND PEOPLE LIKE Y'ALL, RIGHT? WORKING PEOPLE WHO HAVE, UH, BEEN TRYING TO MAKE A LIVING AND BEEN TRYING TO ACHIEVE STABLE HOUSING, RIGHT? AND, UH, THE REASON I MENTION THAT IS BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE USED THE PAST, I KNOW IT'S BEEN FIVE MONTHS SINCE WE INTRODUCED THE TENANT BILL OF RIGHTS, BUT THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS SINCE LAST JANUARY, RIGHT? THEY ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT STAKEHOLDERS IN THIS, IN THIS COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING THROUGH THESE EXPERIENCES, AND THEY'RE THE EXPERTS THAT WE SHOULD BE TURNING TO FOR SOLUTIONS.
UM, SO I MENTIONED THAT BECAUSE WHEN IT COMES TO THE TENANT BILL OF RIGHTS TIMELINE, THAT'S BEEN PROPOSED.
IT PROPOSES WAITING UNTIL JULY TO PASS.
AND ALSO INCLUDING, UH, STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS IN APRIL, UH, THAT EFFECTIVELY SHUT PEOPLE OUT, RIGHT? UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW, UH, SAN ANTONIO APARTMENT ASSOCIATION HAS BEEN LISTED AS A STAKEHOLDER.
SO A SABOR, RIGHT? THAT WE'LL BE CONSULTED WITH.
UH, BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT STAKEHOLDERS ARE BEING IGNORED, RIGHT? IF THEY'RE NOT INCLUDED IN THAT, WE HAVE TO SHOW UP HERE, RIGHT? INSTEAD OF, INSTEAD OF PEOPLE COMING TO US AND TO COMING TO OUR MEMBERS TO ASK WHAT THEY'RE LIVING THROUGH.
AND IT SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BE THAT WAY.
YOU KNOW, TEXAS HOUSERS HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, REALLY FIGHTING FOR JUSTICE BECAUSE THAT IS A VOICE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO, TO LEAN ON WHEN NEEDED, BUT IT STILL ISN'T THE SAME AS PRIORITIZING THE MEMBERS WHO ARE LIVING THROUGH THESE SITUATIONS.
UH, SO LIKE I SAID, Y'ALL KNOW THE DEMANDS THAT OUR MEMBERS HAVE, BUT I WANT Y'ALL TO KNOW THAT THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR VERY LONG TIMES, RISKING RETALIATION, RIGHT? UH, SOME OF THEM ALREADY GOT EVICTION NOTICES LAST YEAR, RIGHT? FOR THE ORGANIZING WORK THEY WERE DOING.
THEY RISKED THAT, RIGHT? THEY HAD HOUSING INSTABILITY.
AND, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THAT, WE SHOULD RESPECT THEIR VOICE AND WE SHOULD PRIORITIZE THEIR VOICES FIRST.
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AND WE, UM, ARE FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC WHO JOINED US A TADD BIT LATE.WE ARE STARTING WITH ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS A BRIEFING ON THE CITY'S FAIR HOUSING AND TENANTS RIGHTS AWARENESS CAMPAIGN.
AND SO WE, UM, ARE GOING TO HAVE, I BELIEVE ANDY'S IS, ARE YOU DOING OKAY? IT'LL BE LORI.
I DO WANNA, UM, MENTION, I'M NOT SURE WHAT PRESENTATION OR IF YOU ALL SAW THE PRESENTATION, BUT I KEEP HEARING ABOUT A TIMELINE FOR JULY.
UH, AND SO, WELL, SO, SO THE NEXT STEP IS IN APRIL, BUT WE'LL EXPLAIN THAT IN A LITTLE BIT.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO, TO MAKE YOU ALL AWARE, BECAUSE I WAS A LITTLE WORRIED AND I STARTED KIND OF LIKE SIFTING QUICKLY THROUGH MY PAPERWORK.
AND SO, UM, THERE STILL IS SOME PROCESS, RIGHT, THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA BE JULY, IT'S GONNA BE SOONER.
AND SO I'D HOPE TO HAVE IT BY APRIL, WHICH IS HOW, UH, FAIR HOUSING MONTH.
UM, BUT JUST F Y I OUT THAT RIGHT NOW.
SO, UH, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO LORI.
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AND THANK YOU ALL FOR JOINING US.UM, BEFORE I PASS IT ON TO VERONICA GARCIA, I JUST WANNA PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT TO WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING TODAY.
UM, THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN WAS ADOPTED ALMOST A LITTLE BIT OVER A YEAR AGO IN DECEMBER OF 2021.
THAT PLAN INCLUDED 36 STRATEGIES THAT FELL UNDER FIVE OVERARCHING GOALS.
TWO OF THOSE GOALS TALKED ABOUT ENSURING ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE PUBLIC AND PROTECTING AND PROMOTING NEIGHBORHOODS.
WITHIN THOSE TWO GOALS, THERE IS EMPHASIS ON MAKING SURE THAT THERE WAS AN EDUCATION CAMPAIGN ON THE FAIR HOUSING LAWS AND TENANTS RIGHTS.
AND SO TODAY'S PRESENTATION IS A CONTINUATION OF IMPLEMENTING THOSE TWO STRATEGIES.
SO WE WILL TALK ABOUT A PROPOSED RESOLUTION, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT UPDATING THE NOTICE THAT YOU GET WHEN YOU'RE GOING THROUGH EVICTION PROCEEDINGS.
WE THINK THAT WE CAN MAKE THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE READER FRIENDLY AND SOME OTHER STRATEGIES THAT WE'D LIKE TO START WORKING ON.
AND I WANNA ECHO COUNCILMAN ADRIANA ROD, UM, ADRIANA ROJA GARCIA'S COMMENTS.
AND THAT IS, RIGHT NOW, WE'RE PROPOSING THAT AFTER TODAY'S BRIEFING, WE GO TO THE HOUSING COMMISSION.
WE WORK WITH THE RENTAL SUBCOMMITTEES, THEN WE GO TO GET PUBLIC INPUT, WHICH INCLUDES THE INDIVIDUALS IN THIS ROOM AND OTHERS.
WE WILL SPEND THE MONTH OF APRIL, AND WE HOPE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL IN MAY.
WE DO NOT HAVE COUNCIL DURING JULY.
WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT, THAT TIMELINE CAME FROM, BUT OUR GOAL IS TO GET THIS IN MAY, BUT IF IT HAS TO MOVE TO JUNE, WE WILL.
BUT WE FEEL THAT THERE'S ENOUGH SUPPORT GIVEN THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE IN THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE CAN GET THIS TO COUNCIL IN MAY.
I'M GONNA PASS THIS ON TO VERONICA GARCIA, WHO'S THE DIRECTOR OF NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOUSING SERVICES.
SHE'S GONNA TALK ABOUT TODAY'S RECOMMENDATIONS TO DO FAIR HOUSING EDUCATION AND TENANTS RIGHTS EDUCATION.
AND THEN SHE'S GONNA PASS IT ON TO SUSAN GWEN WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, WHO'S GONNA TALK MORE ABOUT THE RESOLUTION WE'RE PROPOSING.
I WANNA RECOGNIZE ANDY SEGOVIA, WHO IS IN THE ROOM TODAY.
HE IS OUR CITY ATTORNEY, AND HE WILL BE HELPING WITH ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMITTEE MAY HAVE, AS WELL AS SUSAN AND JAMINE.
ALL THREE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS RESOLUTION.
SO, VERONICA, THANK YOU, LORI AND P C D C MEMBERS.
THANK YOU FOR THOSE OPENING REMARKS.
AS, AS DISCUSSED, WE HAVE A BRIEFING ON OUR PLAN TO DO A FAIR HOUSING AND TENANTS RIGHTS AWARENESS CAMPAIGN.
UH, SO THIS IS IN LINE WITH OUR STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.
AS LORI MENTIONED, THE PLAN SPEAKS TO THE NEED TO IMPLEMENT A PUBLIC INFORMATION CAMPAIGN ON HOUSING, HOUSING, SPECIFICALLY ON FAIR HOUSING LAWS AND THE OVERALL IMPORTANCE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
UH, WE ARE, WE KNOW, UM, THAT IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE SPREAD KNOWLEDGE OF THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE, AND THAT THERE'S A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND FEEDBACK LOOP INVOLVED IN THE PRODUCTION OF THAT CAMPAIGN.
IN ADDITION, UH, WE HAVE A SHIP STRATEGY THAT SPEAKS TO THE NEED FOR SYSTEM-WIDE EVICTION AND FORECLOSURE PREVENTION.
AND THAT, UM, I IDENTIFIES THE NEED FOR US TO DO PROACTIVE ENGAGEMENT WITH BOTH TENANTS AND LANDLORDS ABOUT THE RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES THAT ARE OUT THERE.
IN ADDITION, UM, THE, UH, SHIP STRATEGY SPEAKS TO THE NEED TO HAVE FOR EVERYONE TO HAVE EASY ACCESS TO THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE.
SO THIS CAMPAIGN THAT WE ARE DOING IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH BOTH OF THOSE STRATEGIES.
THE FAIR HOUSING AND TENANT'S RIGHTS AWARENESS CAMPAIGN HAS THREE MAIN ELEMENTS.
THE FIRST THAT OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WILL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IS THE RESOLUTION, WHICH OUTLINES, UM, THE EXISTING RIGHTS AND LAWS THAT SUPPORT TENANTS' RIGHTS.
THAT'S BOTH LOCAL, STATE AND ALL OF THE FEDERAL LAWS THAT ARE OUT THERE.
THESE LAWS SPEAK TO THE NEED, THE RIGHT FOR TENANTS TO LIVE IN SAFE, DECENT QUALITY HOUSING FOR TENANTS TO LIVE FREE OF RETALIATION AND DISCRIMINATION.
AND THIS RESOLUTION, REALLY THE GOAL IS TO, UH, COORDINATE ALL OF THOSE EXISTING FAIR HOUSING LAWS INTO ONE DOCUMENT.
THE NEXT VERY CRITICAL PART OF THIS EFFORT IS FOR OUR DEPARTMENT TO TAKE THE LEAD TO DEVELOP EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS.
THIS WILL BE DONE, UM, TO INDEED IDENTIFY ALL OF THE DIFFERENT PROTECTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE UNDER EACH OF THOSE LAWS, AS WELL AS CLEARLY OUTLINED CONTACT INFORMATION, UM, FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS TO REPORT A VIOLATION AND KEY, MOSTLY, UM, WHAT ASSISTANCE AND RESOURCES ARE OUT THERE.
OUR DEPARTMENT HAS THE HONOR OF LEADING MANY OF THE RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO TENANTS.
UM, FIRST WE HAVE OUR RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND RELOCATION ASSISTANCE.
WE JUST CLOSED THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE APPLICATION PROCESS AND RECEIVED OVER 6,000 APPLICATIONS IN ABOUT A TWO WEEK PERIOD.
SO WE ARE QUICKLY GOING THROUGH ALL THOSE, AND WE HAVE, UM, STILL TODAY RESOURCES AND ASSISTANCE AVAILABLE FOR RELOCATION AND ANYONE WHO NEEDS TO IDENTIFY NEW AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPTIONS.
WE ALSO OVERSEE THE CITY'S EFFORTS AND HAVE REALLY SCALED UP OUR RIGHT TO COUNCIL PROGRAM AND EVICTION PREVENTION MEASURES.
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WITH THIS COLLABORATION WITH THE JUSTICE OF THE PEACE COURTS, WE HAVE BOTH CITY STAFF AND PRO BONO, PRO BONO ATTORNEYS AT EVERY SINGLE JUSTICE OF THE PEACE COURT EVICTION HEARING.SO WHEN A TENANT IS GOING THROUGH THE EVICTION PROCESS, AND IT IS A VERY MUCH AN AN OVERWHELMING TIME, THEY GET A LOT OF INFORMATION, THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, MISUNDERSTANDING ABOUT WHAT THEY CAN AND CAN'T DO.
UM, WE OFTENTIMES SEE INDIVIDUALS WHO, UH, WANT TO WANNA TAKE MEASURES SO THEY DON'T HAVE THE EVICTION ON THEIR RECORD.
AND OUR STAFF, AS WELL AS THROUGH PARTNERSHIP WITH TEXAS RIO GRANDE LEGAL ASSOCIATION, THEIR TEAM IS THERE TO PROVIDE THAT GUIDANCE AND THAT ADVICE TO TENANTS ABOUT WHAT THEIR OPTIONS ARE AND WHAT RESOURCES WE HAVE.
AND I'LL TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO ACKNOWLEDGE SOMEONE ON OUR TEAM.
SHE IS ONE OF OUR, ONE OF OUR MANY SENIOR FAMILY SUPPORT WORKERS.
SHE WORKS WITH OUR RELOCATION TEAM, AND SHE WAS ALSO A FORMER, UM, HOUSING ASSISTANCE PROGRAM PROCESSOR.
SO MS. LYDIA, ALONG WITH MANY OF HER COLLEAGUES, ARE SOME OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE HERE TO HELP TENANTS AND THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTAND THE MULTITUDE OF RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO ASSIST.
SO EXCITED TO INTRODUCE LYDIA TO EVERYBODY.
THE LAST ELEMENT OF OUR CAMPAIGN IS OUR EXISTING NOTICE OF TENANTS RIGHTS DOCUMENT.
SO THAT WAS PASSED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO.
WE'VE HAD A LOT OF NEW PROGRAMS AND INITIATIVES SINCE THEN.
SO OUR EFFORT WILL BE TO IMPROVE THE READABILITY OF THAT DOCUMENT AND MAKE IT MORE COMPREHENSIVE OF THE RESOURCES THAT ARE OUT THERE TODAY.
ALL OF THIS EFFORT IS ALSO IN ALIGNMENT WITH OUR EXISTING TEXAS STATE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA.
OUR LEGISLATIVE EFFORTS ARE TO SUPPORT ANY LEGISLATION THAT EMPOWERS OUR GOVERNMENT TO REMOVE BARRIERS TO HOUSING FOR LOW-INCOME FAMILIES, AS WELL AS EFFORTS THAT HELP US INCREASE THE INVENTORY OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING STOCK IN OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, THE LIMITED SUPPLY OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING STOCK REALLY CREATES A LOT OF THE PRESSURES THAT WE SEE ON TENANTS AND LIMITS THEIR OPTIONS.
SO WE ARE DEFINITELY SUPPORTING ANY LEGISLATIVE EFFORTS THAT HELP US INCREASE MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN OUR AREA.
WE ARE ALSO OPPOSING LEGISLATION THAT IS DISCRIMINATORY IN ANY WAY AND OR UNDERMINES OUR EXISTING NON-DISCRIMINATION ORDINANCE.
SO, AS MENTIONED, WE DO HAVE AN EXISTING NOTICE OF TENANTS RIGHTS, WHICH MUST BE ATTACHED TO EVERY NOTICE TO VACATE FOR NON-PAYMENT OF RENT ISSUED WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.
THIS DOCUMENT REALLY ENCOURAGES DIALOGUE, UH, BETWEEN TENANTS AND LANDLORDS, AND HIGHLIGHTS ALL OF THE DIFFERENT, UH, RESOURCES THAT ARE OUT THERE FOR TENANTS.
IT IS, UM, REQUIRED TO BE PROVIDED TO TENANTS GOING THROUGH AN EVICTION PROCEEDING PROCESS IN BOTH, OR THE FIRST STEP BEFORE THAT PROCESS IN BOTH ENGLISH AND IN SPANISH.
UM, BUT AS MENTIONED, THIS DOCUMENT IS ABOUT THREE YEARS OLD.
SO WE WILL BE WORKING, UM, WITH ALL OF THE STAKEHOLDERS IN THIS ROOM, AS WELL AS OUR HOUSING STAKEHOLDERS, AND REALLY GOING THROUGH A FULL STAKEHOLDER FEEDBACK AND ENGAGEMENT PROCESS TO REVIEW THIS DOCUMENT, AS WELL AS THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS THAT I SPOKE ABOUT.
WHAT'S IMPORTANT ABOUT, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT HAVING THESE DOCUMENTS FOR THE COMMUNITY, IT'S ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE EASY TO UNDERSTAND AND THEY'RE A GOOD GUIDE FOR PEOPLE TO UTILIZE WHEN THEY ARE GOING THROUGH, UM, ANY KIND OF ISSUES THAT THEY MAY HAVE AS RENTERS.
IT'S ALSO AN IMPORTANT GUIDE, UM, FOR THE LANDLORDS TO PASS ON TO THEIR TENANTS.
A LOT OF TIMES WE HEAR FROM LANDLORDS THAT THEY DO WANT TO, UM, HAVE, MAKE SURE TENANTS UNDERSTAND THESE OPTIONS SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE EVICTION PROCEEDINGS.
SO THINK, WE THINK A LOT OF IT CAN BE ADDRESSED, AND WE CAN BE THAT LIAISON BETWEEN THE INDIVIDUALS AND MAKING SURE THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THE RESOURCES AND THE MATERIALS FOR THE INFORMATION THAT THEY NEED.
SO, AS, UH, LORI MENTIONED, WE DO HAVE A TIMELINE THAT GETS US TO UPDATING OUR DOCUMENTS, CREATING MORE EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS, AND, UH, WITH THE RESOLUTION CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WILL GO THROUGH THAT TIMELINE.
BUT THE TIMELINE IS INTENTIONAL.
IT'S, IT'S WITH A SENSE OF URGENCY FOR SURE, BUT IS INTENTIONALLY ALLOWS TIME FOR US TO GO THROUGH THAT PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND FEEDBACK EFFORT.
SO THAT WILL INVOLVE THE HOUSING COMMISSION AS WELL AS THE SUBCOMMITTEES THAT THEY'VE SET UP TO ADDRESS JUST THIS, WHICH INCLUDES THE RENTER SOLUTION SUBCOMMITTEE AND THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND OUTREACH COMMITTEE.
SO, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO SUSAN GWYNN FROM CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO SPEAK MORE DETAILS ABOUT THE RESOLUTION.
AND AS SUSAN'S COMING UP TO THE PODIUM, UM, UM, AS VERONICA MENTIONED, SHE'S GOING TO PRESENT THE TENANT'S RIGHTS RESOLUTION.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE, WHICH WE'RE GONNA BE DEVELOPING OVER THE NEXT MONTH, IS AN ATTACHMENT TO THIS DOCUMENT THAT CLEARLY IDENTIFIES EACH LAW, WHO'S RESPONSIBLE AND WHO TO CALL.
AND THEN THERE'LL BE A NUMBER THAT YOU CAN CALL AT THE CITY FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY ADDITIONAL HELP.
SO THAT WAY YOU HAVE THE RESOLUTION, BUT THEN YOU HAVE THE DOCUMENT REALLY TELLS YOU WHO TO GO TO, OR YOU THINK
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THAT YOU HAVE, UM, THAT YOU'VE BEEN TREATED WRONGLY AND THAT YOU HAVE A CLAIM.AND SO THAT WILL BE DEVELOPED WITH MANY STAKEHOLDERS IN THIS ROOM.
WE NEED HELP TO MAKE IT READER FRIENDLY.
UM, AND THAT WILL COME BACK TO THE P C D C, ALONG WITH THE FINAL RESOLUTION.
AND THEN SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT VERONICA MENTIONED.
THE PURPOSE OF THE TENANT'S RIGHTS RESOLUTION IS TO CONSOLIDATE THESE REGULATIONS AND PROGRAMS ARE ALREADY IN EXISTENCE, SO TENANTS CAN ALREADY AVAIL THEMSELVES OF THESE PROTECTIONS.
UH, BUT THIS IS A WAY TO CONSOLIDATE FOR MORE AWARENESS AND SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS WHERE TO GO TO.
THEY CAN START WITH THIS DOCUMENT AND SEE ALL OF THE, THESE RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
UM, AGAIN, LOCALLY, WE HAVE THE HOUSING VOUCHER INCENTIVE POLICY THAT WAS ADOPTED IN 2021, THE NOTICE OF TENANTS RIGHTS ORDINANCE BACK IN 2020.
THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE, I'D PROBABLY HAVE TO DEFER TO MIKE, BUT IT'S BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME.
UH, PROTECTING, UH, AND MAKING FOR LIVABLE SAFE, UH, HOUSING.
UH, OUR NON-DISCRIMINATION ORDINANCE, AGAIN, NOT NEW AT ALL, THAT I BELIEVE IT WAS ADOPTED IN 2013, UH, TO JUST STOP AND HELP THE DISCRIMINATION ON AGE, SEXUAL, UM, ORIENTATION, UM, ANY TYPE OF DISCRIMINATION.
SO THESE ARE ALREADY IN PLACE.
THE CITY IS ADOPTED AND IS FULLY BEHIND THE STATE HAS, UH, PROTECTIONS.
THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE PROVIDES AUTHORITY FOR US NOT TO SPECIFICALLY, UH, PROHIBIT, UH, DISCRIMINATION AGAINST LANDLORDS THAT, UH, DON'T ALLOW VOUCHERS.
BUT WE HAVE AN INCENTIVE PROGRAM AVAILABLE TO, UM, THAT ANY ENTITIES THAT CONTRACT WITH THE CITY, IF THEY ARE DISCRIMINATING ON THE BASIS OF A VOUCHER PROGRAM, THEN IT GIVES THE CITY SOME AUTHORITY TO EITHER HAVE SOME COUNSELING OR POTENTIALLY, UM, UH, TERMINATE THE CONTRACT.
ULTIMATELY, MAYBE A DISBARMENT IF IT'S REALLY SERIOUS PROBLEMS. AGAIN, THESE ARE ALREADY IN PLACE.
UH, WE HAVE THE, UH, PROPERTY CODE ON THE STATE LEVEL THAT PROVIDES MANY, MANY, UM, REMEDIES FOR TENANTS AND THE PROCESS TO FOLLOW, UM, THAT'S BEEN IN EXISTENCE, THAT'S NOT NEW, UH, THE TEXAS FAIR HOUSING ACT.
AND THEN THERE IS, THE FEDERAL FAIR HOUSING ACT, WHICH WAS ORIGINALLY ADOPTED IN 1968, HAS BEEN AMENDED AND EXPANDED THROUGHOUT THESE YEARS.
UM, AND THEN THE VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN THAT PROVIDES MORE PROTECTIONS ON DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, STALKING, UM, OR SEXUAL ASSAULT.
SO THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PROTECTIONS ALREADY IN PLACE, AND THIS DOCUMENT IS MEANT TO BRING ALL OF THAT INFORMATION TOGETHER, PROMOTING AWARENESS.
AND WHILE THE RESOLUTION MAY NOT BE ADOPTED IMMEDIATELY, AGAIN, THE PROTECTIONS ARE ALREADY IN PLACE AND THERE IS A NEED TO GO OUT AND SEE STAKEHOLDERS GET MORE INPUT.
BUT ALSO DURING THIS TIME, IT IS AN ABILITY TO PROMOTE MORE AWARENESS SO MORE PEOPLE WILL UNDERSTAND, KNOW WHAT THEIR RIGHTS ARE.
SO WE ARE HERE AT P C D C TODAY.
THEN IN MARCH, WE WILL GO TO THE HOUSING COMMISSION SUBCOMMITTEE BRIEFINGS.
THE END OF MARCH, THERE WILL BE A HOUSING COMMISSION BRIEFING.
APRIL WILL BE MORE STAKEHOLDER INPUT, MORE PUBLIC MEETINGS, AND THEN IN APRIL, EARLY MAY TO THE HOUSING CONDI COMMISSION AND BACK HERE TO U P C D C.
AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN BE AT COUNCIL FOR ADOPTION IN MAY, JUNE AT THE LATEST.
AND SUSAN, BEFORE YOU SIT DOWN, CAN I ASK YOU TO POINT OUT SOME SPECIFIC LAWS THAT THIS RESOLUTION ADDRESSES? UM, 'CAUSE I HEARD SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE TALK ABOUT FEAR OF RETALIATION, OR THEY'RE ACTUALLY EXPERIENCING RETALIATION.
WHERE IS THAT PROVIDED IN THE RESOLUTION? THOSE ARE IN THE FAIR HOUSING ACT, UM, BOTH IN THE STATE, THE FEDERAL, THE PROPERTY CODE.
UM, THEY ALL PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE REMEDIES, SPECIFICALLY THE PROPERTY CODE, I THINK IT'S CHAPTER 92, ADDRESSES RETALIATION, AND THERE ARE REMEDIES AVAILABLE IN THE PROPERTY CODE.
AND THEN FOR THE, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE TEXAS PROPERTY CODE.
UM, WE REFERENCE IT IN THE RESOLUTION.
WE'LL HAVE IT LISTED IN THE ATTACHMENT, BUT I'LL SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS IF THERE IS, IF A TENANT MAKES REPAIR REQUESTS, AND THEN THE LANDLORD DOESN'T
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DO ANYTHING WITH 'EM.THE TEXAS PROPERTY CODE SAYS THAT, UM, THE TENANT CAN DEDUCT THE AMOUNT OF REPAIRS THEY MADE WHEN THEY PAY THEIR LEASE AMOUNT.
AND SO IS THAT COVERED IN THIS BILL AS WELL? IN THIS RESOLUTION? THAT'S CONTEMPLATED, YES.
THAT WE REFER TO THAT, THAT IS ANOTHER ONE OF THEIR RIGHTS, UM, IN THAT PROPERTY CODE.
WE DO CAUTION THAT THEY, THERE IS A PROCESS AND THE, THE TENANT WOULD NEED TO FOLLOW IT CAREFULLY, BUT THEY HAVE THOSE PROTECTIONS.
AND THEN ALSO THE SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE OUTLINES THE MINIMUM STANDARDS FOR STRUCTURES, LIGHTING, VENTILATION SPACE.
AND SO WE REFERENCE THAT IN THE RESOLUTION AS WELL.
AND SO IF THERE IS A PROPERTY THAT'S NOT MEETING THOSE STANDARDS, THAT IS ALREADY COVERED BY LAW, WHERE THE TENANT CAN REPORT, AND IF THEY DON'T FOLLOW, THEY, THEY HAVE A PLACE THAT THEY CAN CALL AND THEN WE'LL DO AN INVESTIGATION.
AND SO THAT IS ALSO SOMETHING THAT THE PROACTIVE INSPECTIONS POLICY IS ADDRESSING AS WELL? YES, WHICH WE ARE CONTINUING TO ADD TO AND ADDRESS.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S ALSO PROTECTIONS FOR VETERANS.
CAN WE ASK THE PUBLIC TO PLEASE KEEP IT DOWN? MM-HMM.
UM, THERE'S ALSO PROTECTION FOR VETERANS, UM, IN THIS, AS IT'S POINTED OUT IN THE, UM, FAIR HOUSING ACT.
AND BUT ALSO IN THE, UM, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, THERE ARE SOME PROTECTIONS PROVIDED FOR VETERANS.
AND THEN TALK ABOUT DISCRIMINATION.
UM, WHERE, WHERE ARE THOSE PROTECTIONS WITHIN THIS RESOLUTION? THROUGHOUT? OKAY.
WE HAVE THE CITY'S, UH, NON-DISCRIMINATION ORDINANCE.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE THE, UM, THE, UM, PROPERTY CODE.
WE HAVE THE FAIR HOUSING ACT, THE, THAT'S BOTH THE TEXAS AND THE FEDERAL FAIR HOUSING ACT, AS WELL AS THE VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN'S.
SO I WANTED TO KIND OF SPECIFICALLY WALK THROUGH THOSE.
SO, UM, PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT WE, THERE ARE LAWS THAT ADDRESS ALL OF OUR CONCERNS.
ENFORCEMENT, I HEAR THAT IS A CONCERN.
AND SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE, UM, THE TASK FORCE HAS LOOKED AT.
BUT THIS RESOLUTION IS TO REALLY CONSOLIDATE ALL THE LAWS THAT EXISTS FOR TENANTS.
AND THEN I THINK THE KEY IS THAT ADDITIONAL HANDOUT THAT WE CAN HAND OUT, OR HOPEFULLY OUR PARTNERS HANDOUT THAT SHOW IF A TENANT FEELS LIKE THEY'RE BEING RETALIATED, THEY KNOW WHAT LAW HAS BEEN VALID, UM, VIOLATED, AND THEY KNOW WHO TO CALL.
AND THEN OF COURSE, THE CITY'S ALWAYS GONNA HAVE A PHONE NUMBER TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE IF THEY NEED HELP NAVIGATING THOSE SERVICES.
SO I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO WALK THROUGH THAT, BECAUSE I THINK WE ADDRESSED A LOT OF THOSE CONCERNS THAT WE'RE IN, UM, THAT WE HEARD AND THAT WE'VE, WE'VE SEEN BEFORE.
AND, UM, I'M HAPPY TO OPEN IT UP FOR THE COMMITTEE, BUT I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.
UM, SUSAN, AND, AND, AND TEAM EVERYBODY FOR, FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE.
I DO WANNA POINT OUT THAT ONE PAGER I THINK'S GONNA BE CRITICAL.
UM, WE'VE HEARD A LOT FROM PEOPLE SAYING, UM, THAT THEY REACH OUT TO THESE DIFFERENT OFFICES, BUT THEN THERE'S NO FOLLOW UP, AND THAT'S NOT, WELL, ALTHOUGH THAT'S NOT CITY RELATED, I DO THINK THAT WE CAN HELP, RIGHT? GET SOME ANSWERS.
AND SO, AND AS A CITY, WE CAN DEFINITELY HAVE A PHONE NUMBER FOR SOMEONE HERE THAT CAN HELP OUR RESIDENTS WITH THAT FOLLOW UP.
SO, UM, I, I WANNA THANK THE, THE TEAM FOR BEING SO PROACTIVE AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THOSE PHONE NUMBERS AND A PHONE NUMBER HERE, UM, WHERE RESIDENTS CAN CALL FOR HELP IF THEY'RE NOT GETTING THE HELP THAT THEY NEED.
UM, SO THE IDEA FOR A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THE RIGHTS OF TENANTS WAS CONCEIVED A FEW YEARS AGO.
UM, AND SO WE HAD SOME SPEAKERS SAY THAT AND REFERENCE THAT.
SO, UH, TEXAS HOUSERS AND TOP AND OTHERS GOT TOGETHER TO CHAMPION THE IDEA AFTER, UH, SOME LONG HOT SUMMERS.
AND I WANTED THIS COMMITTEE SPECIFICALLY TO TAKE IT UP BECAUSE OF ALL THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR.
AND I THINK THAT THIS TEAM, THIS COMMITTEE IS MOST FAMILIAR WITH THE ISSUES.
AND SO, UM, WITH ALL OF THE HOUSING POLICIES AND ISSUES THAT RENTERS HAVE TO DEAL WITH, WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THAT.
SO, UM, SO I THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS THE APPROPRIATE COMMU COMMITTEE TO TAKE IT UP DATA FROM THE SA 2020 AND TEXAS HOUSERS, FOR INSTANCE, IN MY DISTRICT.
SO I ALWAYS KIND OF BRING IT DOWN TO MY DISTRICT AND HOW IT HELPS MY RESIDENTS.
ABOUT 38% OF THE RESIDENTS IN DISTRICT FOUR ARE RENTERS.
54% OF THEM ARE HOUSE BURDENED.
51% OF THEM HAVE RENTAL UNITS THAT HAVE CHILDREN LIVING IN THEM.
SO I HAVE THE LARGEST NUMBER OF RENTERS WITH CHILDREN.
AND SO CHILDREN ARE OUR FUTURE.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE BREAK THE CYCLES OF GENERATIONAL POVERTY, WE GIVE THEM ACCESS TO EVERYTHING THAT THEY NEED.
AND I THINK THAT THIS IS DEFINITELY A FIRST STEP, AND THIS IS WHY I'M, I'M, I'M INVESTED IN THIS IN THE PAST FEW YEARS.
UM, CITY COUNCIL HAS REALLY RAMPED UP SOME FUNDING AND PROGRAMMING FOR SUPPORTING RENTERS.
AND I THINK THAT THIS DEFINITELY HELPS US, UM, AS A MARKETING PROFESSOR.
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I, I LIKE THE MARKETING CAMPAIGN BECAUSE IT PROMOTES AND IT GIVES INFORMATION UPFRONT.LET'S FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THAT INFORMATION INTO THE HANDS OF EVERYBODY WHO REALLY NEEDS IT IN LANGUAGE THAT'S, UM, ACCESSIBLE, UH, THROUGH THE EQUITY LENS.
AND SO I KNOW THAT ONE OF OUR SPEAKERS POINTED OUT EQUITY THROUGH LANGUAGE ACCESS, AND I COMPLETELY BELIEVE IN IT, RIGHT? AND SO, UM, SO I'M GLAD THAT WE'LL HAVE THAT, UH, AS WELL.
AND THEN SPECIFICALLY THE, UM, PROGRAMS THAT HELP WITH THE ADDITIONAL SERVICES I THINK ARE GONNA BE IMPORTANT.
WE HAVE ANOTHER PRESENTATION HERE WE'RE FOLLOWING, AND, AND I SEE MIKE SHANNON AND HIS TEAM HERE WITH, UH, PROACTIVE INSPECTIONS PROGRAMS. SO I THINK IT ALL RELATES TODAY VERY NICELY, AND SO WE'LL LEARN ABOUT THAT IN A LITTLE BIT.
BUT I REALLY WANNA THANK THE COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND, AND LORI AND ANDY AND, AND ALL OF YOUR OFFICES REALLY FOR THE SUPPORT.
I MENTIONED EARLIER, APRIL IS FAIR HOUSING MONTH, AND WE SAW IN THE PRESENTATION AS WELL.
SO I'M HAPPY THAT IT'S GONNA COME TO THIS COMMITTEE IN APRIL, RIGHT? SO IT'LL BE VERY APPROPRIATE, UM, TO MAKE SURE.
AND SO, OF COURSE, SOME OF THE OTHER COMMITTEES THAT WE WANNA HAVE IT THROUGH MEET AT CERTAIN TIMES, SO WE HAVE TO ALSO BE, UM, MINDFUL OF THAT.
AND SO IT LOOKS LIKE APRIL, THAT BETWEEN NOW AND APRIL 27TH, WE WILL HAVE IT BACK AND THEN, UM, GET IT OVER TO CITY COUNCIL.
SO I APPRECIATE THE, THAT THE TIMELINE HAS SOME ADDITIONAL INPUT FOR THE STAKEHOLDERS AND AT THE, UM, RENTERS, UH, SUB, FOR INSTANCE.
I'M GONNA, UM, TURN IT OVER NOW TO, TO SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES AND I, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY.
COUNCILMAN VRAN, AND THEN COUNCILMAN COURAGE AND COUNCILMAN CASTILLO.
SO, LEGALLY, BECAUSE, UH, OPPORTUNITY HOME SAN ANTONIO IS, IS A, A DIFFERENT ENTITY, AND I KNOW WE'RE GONNA GO TO THEM, UM, WHEN WE PASS THIS RESOLUTION, AND I KNOW THEY'RE SUBJECT TO THE, UM, THE LAWS THAT THE CODES AND THE LAWS AND THE ACTS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, HOW IS THIS THIS GOING TO IMPACT THEM? BECAUSE ONE THING I'M HEARING FROM, UH, RESIDENTS WHO LIVE IN, IN OPPORTUNITY HOME HOMES IS THEY'D LIKE TO GET A RING, UH, DOORBELL.
THEY'D LIKE TO SEE MORE CAMERAS, BUT THEY'RE BEING TOLD THAT THEY, THEY CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S HOUSING.
SO HOW IS THIS RESOLUTION GONNA IMPACT THAT? WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW THE, THE STATE, LOCAL, AND FEDERAL LAWS.
SO THEY SHOULD BE FOLLOWING THESE LAWS ALREADY.
WHAT WE ARE DOING IS TRYING TO PROVIDE AWARENESS TO THE TENANTS SO THEY KNOW THAT'S NOT RIGHT, IF THEY'RE NOT GETTING THAT INFORMATION, AND THEN THEY HAVE THE RESOURCES NECESSARY TO FILE THE COMPLAINT.
AND THEN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, THROUGH OUR FAIR, THROUGH OUR FAIR HOUSING OFFICE, WILL HELP IF THEY NEED TO WITH THAT NAVIGATION TO GET THAT COMPLAINT FOLLOWED.
I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE TO LEAVE.
UM, OR YOU WILL BE ASKED TO LEAVE BY THE THIRD TIME.
UH, THANK, SO THAT, THAT IS ONE OF MY, UM, THAT'S WHY I'M GO, I'M GLAD WE'RE GOING BACK TO THE STAKEHOLDERS BECAUSE I THINK THAT THEY NEED TO CLEARLY UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE EXPECTATIONS FOR THEM TO, TO FOLLOW THE ACTS AND THE CODES THAT WE HAVE AND ADHERE TO THIS RESOLUTION.
AND THAT IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S PREVENTING THEM FROM ALLOWING THIS TO HAPPEN, THAT THEY NEED TO CLEARLY COMMUNICATE THAT TO THEIR TENANTS.
SO I'M, I'M GLAD THAT IT'S GONNA GO BACK TO COMMITTEE.
THE OTHER, UH, CONCERN I, I DO HAVE IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO COLLECT THE DATA, UH, REGARDING THIS, UH, IN TERMS OF WHEN WE, UM, WITH OUR OUT OF TOWN LANDLORDS, UH, BECAUSE THAT IS A, THEY MAY LIVE IN ANOTHER STATE THAT HAS DIFFERENT, UM, STATE LAWS OR LOCAL LAWS, AND MAKING SURE THAT WE CLEARLY COMMUNICATE TO THEM WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WE ARE PUTTING FORWARD AND EX OUR EXPECTATIONS.
OKAY, IF I MAY, COUNCILMAN, UH, UH, IN THE, UH, COMMENT YOU JUST MADE, EVEN THOUGH THEY LIVE OUTTA STATE, THEY STILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH WHATEVER LOCAL, STATE OR FEDERAL LAWS THEY HAVE.
SO, UH, IT'S STILL DRIVEN BY WHAT WE'RE REQUIRING LOCALLY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.
SO EVEN THOUGH THEY LIVE OUTSIDE, THEY STILL HAVE TO, BECAUSE THE PROPERTY'S LOCATED HERE, THEY HAVE TO COMPLY WITH OUR LAWS.
AND I, I JUST WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE THE SPEAKERS AND THE FRUSTRATION THAT YOU HAVE.
AND I KNOW THAT IT'S, IT'S BEEN A LOT OF EXCUSES FROM SOME, SO THAT'S WHY I LOOK FORWARD TO DISCUSSING ITEM TWO AS WE COME UP NEXT.
BUT, UM, I, I THINK, YES, WE WOULD'VE DEFINITELY LIKED THIS TIMELINE TO GO A LITTLE FASTER, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE COMMUNICATE TO OUR STAKEHOLDERS THAT ARE GOING TO BE THERE, OUR EXPECTATIONS WITH THIS RESOLUTION.
AND THAT WE THEN, IN THE OUTREACH, THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO
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THE EXPECTATION THAT WE EXPECT THESE APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND THESE HOUSING, UH, TO PASS OUT THAT INFORMATION.AND IF WE ARE BEING TOLD BY STAKEHOLDERS THAT ARE HERE TODAY, HEY, YOU NEED TO PUT ON DOOR HANGERS, OR WE NEED TO HAVE THIS IN, IN A PAPER FORM, OR WE NEED A MEETING THAT, THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE RESPONSIVE TO THAT.
'CAUSE WHAT I DON'T WANNA SEE IS, UM, WE TRY AND TAKE THIS OUT INTO A COMPLEX AND WE'RE TOLD, UH, OH, SORRY, THAT'S NOT WHAT, THAT'S NOT OUR POLICY TO ALLOW YOU TO GO DOOR TO DOOR.
THAT THAT'S WHAT I'M AFRAID OF ONCE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.
AND, AND WE ARE TALKING WITH, UM, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND THE CODE COMPLIANCE TEAM AS THEY DO INSPECTIONS.
THEY COULD HAVE FLYERS AND HELP US DISTRIBUTE THAT.
UH, WE CAN ALSO DO PROACTIVE EFFORTS.
AND, UM, I MENTIONED OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH T R L A.
THEY ALSO DO A LOT OF, UH, KNOW YOUR RIGHTS TRAININGS FOR THE COMMUNITY, AND THEY HELP US GO TO ANY HOTSPOTS OF AREAS AND PROVIDE THAT INDIVIDUAL ONE-ON-ONE ASSISTANCE, COLLATERAL, ALL OF THAT.
UM, WE HAVE DONE THAT IN THE PAST, EVEN WHEN THE, UM, LANDLORD SOMETIMES DOESN'T ALLOW US ON THE PROPERTY, WE STILL GO AND PROVIDE INFORMATION AND WE SET UP AT THE LOCAL LIBRARY COMMUNITY CENTER SOMEWHERE, THE TENANT VERY CLOSE BY THAT THE TENANTS CAN COME GET THE INFORMATION IF WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO BE, UM, ON THEIR PROPERTY.
BUT WE, WE TRY TO FIND THE MOST, UM, ACCESSIBLE WAY TO GET THE INFORMATION.
DO WE AGAIN? COUNCILMAN COURAGE.
UH, I'VE, I'VE HEARD WHAT YOU HAVE SAID, AND THERE ARE OTHERS IN THE COMMUNITY WHO'VE BEEN SAYING MUCH OF WHAT YOU'VE BEEN SAYING, UH, FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
I THINK ALL OF US KNOW, ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO, OR ALMOST FIVE YEARS AGO NOW, UH, THE MAYOR ESTABLISHED A, A HOUSING COMMITTEE, A COMMISSION THAT FOR THE BETTER PART OF A YEAR, HEARD FROM PEOPLE ALL OVER THE CITY TALKING ABOUT HOUSING ISSUES.
AND SO WE ESTABLISHED A HOUSING COMMISSION.
UH, BUT, UH, THERE'S STILL A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE, OBVIOUSLY.
UH, I'VE BEEN, UH, LOOKING AT RENTING IN, IN MY AREA THERE, 45% OF THE, OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN DISTRICT NINE ARE, ARE RENTERS.
I HAVE PEOPLE WHO CALL OUR OFFICE AND THEY SAY, WE HAVE A PROBLEM.
IT MAY BE A, A SAFETY PROBLEM, OR IT COULD BE A WATER PROBLEM, OR WHATEVER.
OBVIOUSLY, UH, WE CONTACT THE PROPERTY OWNER AND ASK THEM TO TAKE CARE OF IT TO FIND OUT WHY THEY'RE NOT.
WE'LL ASK CODE COMPLIANCE TO GO OUT, MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND THEIR OBLIGATION.
UH, BUT THERE ARE PLENTY OF, UH, UNFORTUNATELY, PROPERTIES THAT HAVE NOT CONSISTENTLY LIVED UP TO THE EXPECTATION OF TAKING CARE OF THEIR, THEIR TENANTS.
UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK EVERYBODY EXPECTS THEIR RESIDENTS TO BE SAFE, TO BE FUNCTIONAL, UH, TO BE COMFORTABLE AND TO BE AFFORDABLE.
AND I THINK THOSE SHOULD ALWAYS BE THE GOALS OF THE CITY TO WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S THE KIND OF HOUSING THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR EVERYBODY IN SAN ANTONIO.
UH, A LOT OF, A LOT OF IT IS, I THINK, AWARENESS, BECAUSE MANY PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR RIGHTS ARE, WHAT THEY COULD DO, WHAT THEY SHOULD DO, BUT ALSO WHAT THEY CAN'T DO.
YOU KNOW, I KNOW A LOT OF, UH, SOME PEOPLE HAVE SAID, WELL, I'M NOT GONNA PAY MY RENT BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T FIXED MY AIR CONDITIONING.
BUT ONCE YOU START DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEN YOU PUT YOURSELF IN A, IN A SITUATION WHERE YOU ARE, UM, YOU ARE LIKELY TO BE EVICTED OR THE THE OWNER CAN TAKE ACTION AGAINST YOU.
BUT IF THEY UNDERSTOOD WHAT THEY COULD DO, UH, WHAT ACTION THEY COULD ASK THE CITY TO UNDERTAKE TO PROTECT THEM, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE AWARENESS THAT WE NEED TO PUT OUT.
TENANTS SHOULD KNOW WHAT THEIR BILL OF RIGHTS ARE.
I THINK THAT IT SHOULD BE A VERY CLEAR, CLEAN DOCUMENT THAT MAKES IT VERY EASY FOR EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND, AND IT CAN'T SIMPLY BE, UH, A BUNCH OF LINKS TO GO SOMEWHERE TO GET MORE INFORMATION.
THAT'S A PROBLEM FOR MANY PEOPLE.
AND, AND SO THAT'S WHAT I HOPE WE COME UP WITH.
UH, OBVIOUSLY IF THERE'S 10 PAGES OF INFORMATION THAT, THAT ARE, UH, PART OF A STATE LAW, YEAH, WE WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND IN CASE THEY WANNA READ THAT.
BUT BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, THERE SHOULD BE A SIMPLE EXPLANATION, A GOOD PHONE NUMBER TO CALL A PERSON TO ASK FOR, RATHER THAN JUST SOME LINK TO GO TO AND TRY AND WORK YOUR WAY THROUGH IT.
SO I HOPE THAT'S MORE OF WHAT WE SEE IN A, A FINAL DOCUMENT THAT OUTLINES THE TENANT'S RIGHTS, AND THAT ALSO MEANS IT SHOULD OUTLINE THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
BOTH SIDES NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE ARE.
SO I HOPE THAT'S WHAT SEE COME OUT OF THIS AS WE CONTINUE FORWARD.
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I, I'D LIKE TO SEE IT DONE NEXT MONTH.UH, BUT, BUT, YOU KNOW, TOPS REPRESENTS A LOT OF PEOPLE.
BUT THERE ARE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS IN ALL KIND, ALL PARTS OF TOWN THAT REPRESENT A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE.
ALL AS MANY AS POSSIBLE, NEED TO HAVE SOME KIND OF INPUT.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT ANOTHER PROGRAM TODAY, PROACTIVE APARTMENT INSPECTIONS, THAT IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER WAY OF MAKING SURE THAT ANY BAD ACTORS ARE HELD ACCOUNTABLE AND THAT, UH, COMPANIES ARE DOING WHAT THEY SHOULD BE DOING TO, UH, SERVE THEIR TENANTS WELL.
SO, UH, I'D LIKE TO SEE A LOT OF THESE MOVE FORWARD AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN, BUT GOOD LAWS TAKE TIME.
COUNCILMAN CASTILLO, UH, THANK YOU, CHAIR.
THANK YOU, SUSAN, LORI, AND VERONICA FOR THE PRESENTATIONS.
AS WE KNOW, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO IS A MAJORITY, UH, RENTER CITY.
AND AS WAGES CONTINUE TO STAY STAGNANT, MANY OF OUR FAMILIES CONTINUE TO STRUGGLE TO FIND SAFE, QUALITY, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
UM, NO DOUBT THE TENANT BILL OF RIGHTS IS LONG OVERDUE.
SO I WANNA THANK, UH, THE CHAIR FOR ENSURING THAT THIS ITEM WAS AGENDIZED AND THAT THERE WAS A DISCUSSION TO ENSURE THAT, UH, WE MOVE FORWARD WITH AN INITIATIVE THAT COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAVE BEEN WORKING ON, UH, FOUR YEARS.
UH, I RECALL OVER THREE, FOUR YEARS AGO BEING ON A WEBEX CALL IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PANDEMIC WITH, UH, JAMES KAYLA MIRANDA, UM, KEVIN LAMEL, AND, UH, JUSTIN RIA, WHO WAS WITH THE D ONE OFFICE AT THE TIME, WHO DRAFTED LANGUAGE, UM, IN A COORDINATION WITH THE TENANTS TO ENSURE THAT THEY RECEIVED THE PROTECTION THAT THEY DESERVED.
UM, SO I WANNA EXPRESS MY THANKS TO THE MEMBERS OF TEXAS ORGANIZING PROJECT, TEXAS HOUSERS, UH, AND THE TENANTS, UH, MOST OF ALL FOR HAVING THE COURAGE.
UH, NO DOUBT IN DISTRICT FIVE, WE'VE SEEN THE RETALIATION WHEN TENANTS ORGANIZE FOR, UH, JUST CONDITIONS.
WE'VE SEEN THE RETALIATION WHEN TENANTS, UM, SAVE THE BILL, UM, DESPITE FIXING SOMETHING FOR THE LANDLORD, UM, AND, UM, SEE THAT GO IN NOTICE, AND WE'VE SEEN THE, THE EVICTIONS TAKE PLACE.
UM, BUT I'M, I'M HOPEFUL WITH THIS WORK AND WITH THE, THE RECOMMENDATION, AS LORI MENTIONED, RIGHT? UM, THERE IS GOING TO BE A LIST OF RESOURCES AND A LIST OF WHAT THOSE RIGHTS ARE.
UM, AND I WANNA ENCOURAGE, RIGHT? UM, ESPECIALLY IN REGARDS TO OPPORTUNITY HOME IS ENSURING THAT WE'RE HITTING UP OUR CONGRESSMEN AND CONGRESSWOMEN, UH, TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE HOLDING THAT FEDERAL ENTITY ACCOUNTABLE.
UM, IN, IN ADDITION TO THAT, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE LANGUAGE JUSTICE AND ENSURING THAT THE, THE TENANT BILL OF RIGHTS AND THE LANGUAGE BEING PUT FORTH IS, UH, ACCESSIBLE TO ALL.
UM, AGAIN, GIVEN THAT WE DO HAVE A LARGE SPANISH SPEAKING POPULATION, I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION REGARDING ORGANIZING SPECIFICALLY, UH, WITHIN, UH, THE, THE PROTECTIONS, UH, IDENTIFIED.
WHERE SPECIFICALLY ARE TENANTS PROTECTED FROM ORGANIZING UNDER, UM, THE, THE LANGUAGE THAT WE HAVE PRESENTED TO US TODAY BY CITY STAFF, I DIDN'T SEE IT EXPLICITLY STATED.
IT'S WITHIN, IT'S NOT EXPLICITLY STATED IN THE RESOLUTION.
IT'S, BUT THE LAW THAT COVERS IT MM-HMM.
AND SO IF YOU ORGANIZE, YOU CANNOT BE RETALIATED AGAINST MM-HMM.
AND THAT WILL BE IN THAT ATTACHMENT THAT YOU WANNA WORK ON THROUGH THE SUBCOMMITTEE PROCESS.
AND IT'LL STATE, DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'VE BEEN RETALIATED BECAUSE YOU HAVE ORGANIZED, IF YES, THIS IS THE LAW AND THIS IS WHO YOU CALL MM-HMM.
AND WE CAN ADD THAT COUNCILMAN AND MAKE IT ALWAYS RIGHT.
IT'S UNDER THE RETALIATION PROTECTION.
I, I THINK I, I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE IF WE CAN STATE IT IN THE LANGUAGE.
UM, DOES THIS REQUIRE, UH, COUNCIL OR COMMITTEE ACTION? IT'S JUST A BRIEFING.
UM, OUR GOAL IS TO COME BACK IN APRIL.
AND IF THERE ARE A LOT OF ISSUES THAT WE, WE SEE WE WILL BE COMING BACK.
BUT WE WILL, YOU WILL KNOW BEFORE THAT, BUT WE HOPE TO BRING THIS BACK IN APRIL AND COUNCIL APPROVAL IN MAY.
AND, UH, AGAIN, I WANTED TO EXPRESS MY THANKS TO THE COUNCILWOMAN FOR ENSURING THAT THIS ITEM WAS AGENDIZED.
IT LOOKS LIKE THOSE ARE THE FINAL COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL COLLEAGUES.
SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS A BRIEFING AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE PROACTIVE APARTMENT INSPECTIONS, TASK FORCE AND DEVELOPMENT TO PROACTIVELY INSPECT MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES FOR COMPLIANCE WITH THE MINIMUM HEALTH AND SAFETY STANDARDS.
AND, UH, WE WILL TURN IT OVER TO MIKE SHANNON AND, UH, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, UM, LORI HOUSTON.
ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, ROD SANCHEZ IS NOW JOINING US FOR THIS.
THE FLOOR'S, YOURS, UH, ROD OR MIKE? DO YOU WANNA KICK IT OFF, MIKE? OKAY.
UH, AND C AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
I'M MIKE SHANNON AND DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, AND YES, YOU'VE ALREADY ALLUDED TO IT.
WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT, UH, SOMETHING WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT AT THIS COMMITTEE.
UH, WE WERE BACK HERE IN DECEMBER, BUT, UH, IT'S THE, UH, PROPOSED PROACTIVE APARTMENT INSPECTION PROGRAM.
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UM, SO, UH, LET'S, UH, LET'S GO THROUGH A FEW SLIDES.SO, WHY ARE WE HERE? IT'S KIND OF A OBVIOUS QUESTION.
I THINK WE ALL KNOW IT, BUT, UH, AS WAS SAID, UH, NOT ONLY TODAY, BUT, UH, OVER THE PAST SEVERAL, UH, MONTHS, UH, EVEN THE PAST SUMMER, UH, APARTMENT CODE VIOLATIONS, UH, REALLY CAN PRESENT UNIQUE CHALLENGES.
WE, WE KNOW THAT PROPERTY MAINTENANCE ISSUES ARE THERE TO PROTECT PEOPLE INSIDE BUILDINGS.
UH, AND WHEN YOU'RE, UH, IN AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, UH, WE HAVE MANY TENANTS, MANY FAMILIES, UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF, UH, RENTERS HERE IN SAN ANTONIO HAS BEEN MENTIONED, AND WE HAVE THIS RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN TENANTS AND LANDLORDS.
EACH OF THEM HAVE RESPONSIBILITIES, UH, AND SOMETIMES THERE ARE EVEN DISPUTES AS TO WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
UH, WE HAD SOME RECENT EXAMPLES BACK IN THE SUMMER, AS WAS MENTIONED.
UH, WE GAVE SOME PRESENTATIONS ON THAT AT SOME PREVIOUS MEETINGS.
UH, A PROPERTY CALLED SEVEN OAKS, WHERE BACH MANOR THAT KIND OF HIGHLIGHTED, UH, THIS BACK IN THE LATE SUMMER.
AND, UH, THEY ALL HAD, UH, THOSE TWO PROPERTIES HAD NUMEROUS CITATIONS.
UM, AND THAT WE, WE HAD TO USE THAT PROCESS TO BRING THEM INTO COMPLIANCE.
SO, UH, JUST A LITTLE BIT, AGAIN, THE TIMELINE THAT WE WERE WORKING THROUGH.
UH, SO LET'S JUST REMEMBER BACK IN SEPTEMBER, THE FIRST THING YOU ALL DID AS A GROUP.
THE, THE CITY COUNCIL AS A WHOLE APPROVED THROUGH THE FISCAL YEAR 2023 BUDGET, UH, TO CODE OFFICERS, BECAUSE WE KNEW WE HAD TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS TO LOOK AT THIS PROPOSED, UH, PROACTIVE INSPECTION PROGRAM.
UH, SO WE ACTUALLY, UH, HAVE ANNA AND PAMELA HERE.
THERE ARE TWO APARTMENT CODE OFFICERS.
SO, UH, REALLY SINCE NOVEMBER, UH, MID TO LATE NOVEMBER, THEY HAVE, UH, BEEN IN THIS ROLE.
AND THEY'RE HELPING US BY DOING, UH, ONLY APARTMENT INSPECTIONS.
SO CODE ENFORCEMENT INSPECTIONS.
AND THAT'S PART OF THE STRATEGY, UH, THAT WE HAD.
BUT WE DIDN'T CHANGE THE CODE AT THAT TIME.
WE DIDN'T ADD NEW FEES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT THAT WAS STEP ONE.
WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE, IS STEP TWO.
SO WE WERE HERE IN AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER, AND WE PROPOSED, HEY, LET'S GET A STAKEHOLDER COMMITTEE TOGETHER, UH, BECAUSE WE REALLY WANT TO IRON OUT A PROGRAM THAT WILL MAKE AN IMPACT.
UH, AND YOU DID, UH, AND I THINK THE SEPTEMBER MEETING AUTHORIZE US TO CREATE A, A BALANCED STAKEHOLDER COMMITTEE, UH, AND MEET WITH THEM AND BRING BACK A PROPOSAL, UH, AN ORDINANCE, UH, THAT WE COULD, UH, USE TO HELP IMPROVE OUR CO UH, CODE ENFORCEMENT AND, UM, AND PROPERTY MAINTENANCE IN, UH, IN APARTMENTS.
AND THEN IN DECEMBER, WE ACTUALLY DID GIVE A BRIEFING WHERE WE WERE AT, WE'RE ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH.
WE WEREN'T DONE AT THAT TIME, STILL DEBATING A LOT OF ISSUES, BUT, UH, SOME OF THE IMPORTANT FEEDBACK YOU ALL GAVE US AT THAT TIME WAS, HEY, CAN YOU FOCUS ON LIFE SAFETY VIOLATIONS? UH, IF THE GRASS IS A LITTLE TOO HIGH IN THE APARTMENT COMPLEX, THAT'S NOT AS IMPORTANT AS, UH, SOME OF THE KEY ISSUES, SEWER BREAKS, UH, WATER LEAKS, INTERIOR UNIT CONDITIONS, STRUCTURAL ISSUES, ET CETERA.
AND IF YOU REMEMBER, WE HAD PROPOSED THAT COMMITTEE WAS TALKING ABOUT, WELL, HOW MANY, HOW MANY CITATIONS WOULD IT TAKE TO GET INTO THIS PROGRAM? THERE WAS CONVERSATION AT THE TIME ABOUT FIVE.
AND SO, SO MUCH OF THE FEEDBACK FROM YOU ALL WAS, GEEZ, THAT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT.
AND SO WE TOOK THAT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE AND BEEN WORKING ON THAT.
SO, SO I'LL JUST TALK, REMEMBER.
UH, WE DID HAVE, I THINK SOMEONE MENTIONED IT, WE'VE HAD TO OVER 12, UH, 12 STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS.
UH, AND, UH, IF SOME OF YOU, I KNOW SOME OF YOUR, UH, TEAM MEMBERS HAVE, HAVE, HAVE MADE MOST OF THOSE, OR SOME OF THOSE THREE HOUR MEETINGS, UM, AND THEY, SOMETIMES THEY BLED OVER TO, UH, A FEW MORE MINUTES.
UM, THEY WERE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
THEY INCLUDED SOME PUBLIC COMMENTS.
I'D LIKE TO THANK, UH, ALL THOSE THAT ATTENDED THOSE, UH, MEETINGS.
WE DID HAVE EARLY ON A COMMUNITY INPUT MEETING, KIND OF AT THE MIDDLE.
UH, WE DID ONE VIRTUAL, ONE PERSON, UH, AGAIN, A LOT OF, UH, NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE ATTENDED THAT, BUT THOSE THAT DID, SAID, KEEP GOING.
IT'S AN IMPORTANT, UH, PROJECT.
BUT A LOT OF HOURS WERE, UH, WERE UTILIZED BY A LOT OF PEOPLE TO REALLY GO THROUGH OUR PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE, OUR PROCESSES, UH, TO, TO GET US HERE TODAY.
UH, I DO WANT TO THANK, UH, CERTAINLY THIS WAS THE STAKEHOLDER, UH, TO TASK FORCE GROUP, UH, THAT WE HAD PROPOSED.
AND, UH, THE NAMES UP THERE, THAT GROUP OF, OF MEMBERS ALONG WITH THOSE, UH, SOME OF THE, UH, UH, TOPS MEMBERS THAT ATTENDED A LOT OF THE MEETINGS, CERTAINLY THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING AND REALLY WRESTLING THROUGH A LOT OF CODE PROCESSES, CODE LANGUAGE, AND, UH, REALLY GOOD DEBATE.
SO THEY WORKED HARD TOGETHER WITH, UH, DEVELOPING THE PROPOSAL.
AND, UH, I THINK WE HAD A REALLY GOOD BALANCE GROUP.
UH, ALL OF THEM, WHILE THEY DEBATED A LOT OF THE ISSUES, THEY FELT THAT THE, THE GOAL WAS IMPORTANT.
AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE SOMETHING HERE TODAY, UM, TO SHOW YOU.
SO, UH, JUST, UH, BEFORE I GET INTO THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE, OF COURSE, SOME OF THE MAJOR TOPICS THAT WE DISCUSSED WAS, WE, WE, WE TALKED ABOUT OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCESSES, UH, KIND OF FROM A TO Z.
UH, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A CALL COMES INTO THREE ONE ONE? WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE CODE OFFICER GOES OUT? WHAT IS A CITATION? WHAT IS THE COURT PROCESS? UH, WE CLARIFIED TERMINOLOGY.
TERMINOLOGY LIKE THE NOTICES AND, AND CITATION.
WHAT IS A NOTICE? WHAT IS A CITATION? UH, WELL, A CITATION IS IF THEY DON'T FIX IT WHEN WE'RE TOLD TO BY, THEY'RE GIVEN NOTICE BY THE CODE OFFICER, WE, WE REVIEWED A BUNCH OF DATA BECAUSE WE WANTED TO BE, UH, DATA DRIVEN TO ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS WE TALKED ABOUT.
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WE ABSOLUTELY TALKED ABOUT, AND YOU ALL HID IT ON THE PREVIOUS, UH, COMMENT, WAS THE NEED FOR EVERYONE, UH, TO HAVE EDUCATION, GOOD COMMUNICATION IN THE PROCESS.SO NO MATTER WHAT WE DO MOVING FORWARD, THAT HAS TO BE PART OF IT.
UH, WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT ANNUAL MAINTENANCE PERMITS FOR THE M E P SYSTEMS, MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING SYSTEMS, UH, THAT ARE MAINTAINED.
YOUR ELECTRICAL SYSTEM, YOUR AC SYSTEM, YOUR PLUMBING SYSTEMS. SO A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW THOSE WORK, WHAT WE SHOULD DO.
UM, AND, UH, THAT WAS A LOT OF, UH, THE DISCUSSION EARLY ON.
JUST TO THROW UP A, A LITTLE BIT OF THE DATA THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT, I'VE KIND OF SUMMARIZED IT HERE, BUT HERE'S JUST THE MOST COMMON VIOLATIONS.
WE TOOK A YEAR AND A HALF WORTH OF DATA.
UM, AND WE LOOKED AT SOME OF THE, UH, THE CALLS THAT WE RECEIVED.
AND THEN SOME OF THE PROACTIVE, WHILE WE'RE OUT THERE, UH, SOME OF THE THINGS, SO INTERIOR UNITS, OVERGROWN YARD TRASH, WATER, SEWER LEAKS, EXTERIOR DUMPSTER MAINTENANCE.
THESE ARE ALL COMMON THINGS THAT WE SEE IN APARTMENTS.
WE HAVE A LOT OF APARTMENTS HERE IN TOWN, OF COURSE.
BUT, UH, THESE ARE SOME OF THE, THE MOST COMMON VIOLATIONS THAT WE SEE AND THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED ON A REGULAR BASIS.
SO THAT'S JUST KIND OF A LITTLE BIT, HOW DO WE GET HERE? AND THEN NOW LET'S TALK ABOUT, UH, THE, THE RECOMMENDATION, UH, KIND OF THAT CONSENSUS RECOMMENDATION.
NOT EVERYBODY LOVES EVERY SINGLE LITTLE DETAIL OF IT, BUT I THINK THIS IS WHAT THE GROUP, AND I THINK, UH, WE'RE PROPOSING TODAY IS, UH, AN ORDINANCE, UH, LIKE THIS.
SO FIRST AND FOREMOST, LET'S START WITH THE GOAL OF ANY ORDINANCE THAT WE ADOPT.
UH, THE GOAL IS REALLY TO INCENTIVIZE GOOD PROPERTY MAN.
UH, MAINTENANCE, UH, GOOD PROPERTY MAINTENANCE IS, UM, IT REALLY ENSURES THE HEALTH AND SAFETY AND WELFARE OF ITS RESIDENTS.
I THINK THAT'S OBVIOUS, BUT WE HAVE TO HOLD, UH, APARTMENT PROPERTY OWNERS ACCOUNTABLE, ESPECIALLY FOR TOO MANY VIOLATIONS OF BASIC HOUSING SAFETY STANDARDS.
SO, UH, AND THEN LASTLY, UH, PROACTIVELY, THIS IS THE KEY PROACTIVE APARTMENT, UH, INSPECTION PROGRAM.
VERIFY COMPLIANCE ON PROPERTIES THAT NEED IT THE MOST, RIGHT? THOSE, THAT, THOSE THAT NEED IT THE MOST IDENTIFY, UH, AS WHAT WE'LL USE THE TERM BAD ACTOR FOR NOW.
UH, BUT THAT'S WHAT, THOSE ARE THE GOALS.
SO EVERYTHING WE TALKED ABOUT AND WE'RE PROPOSING TODAY IS TO, UH, IS TO HIT THESE TARGETS OR HIT THESE GOALS.
SO FIRST, LET'S START WITH, WELL, WHAT DOES THIS APPLY TO? THIS IS FOR APARTMENTS.
THIS IS NOT FOR SINGLE FAMILY RENTAL UNITS.
UH, HOMES THAT ARE RENTED OUT OR DUPLEXES, UH, IT WOULD APPLY TO, THIS ORDINANCE WOULD APPLY TO, UH, COMPLEXES THAT HAVE FIVE OR MORE UNITS.
UM, AND THAT AS, THAT THEY'RE NOT MAINTAINING THEIR, UH, PROPERTY MINIMUM CODE, UH, STANDARDS.
UH, MAJOR ISSUES DEVELOP, AND WE, WE CHOSE FIVE OR MORE UNITS, AND WE CALL THAT A GROUP R TWO OCCUPANCY IN, IN THE BUILDING CODE.
BUT THAT'S JUST RESIDENTIAL TWO, UH, BUT FIVE OR MORE UNITS, THAT'S A GOOD DELINEATION.
UH, IT'S ALREADY USED IN THEIR DEVELOPMENT CODE TO DELINEATE MORE OF A COMMERCIAL APARTMENT COMPLEX VERSUS A SINGLE RENTAL HOME, UH, OR A DUPLEX OR TRIPLEX OR A QUAD.
UH, WE JUST HAVE TO SAY WHAT IT APPLIES TO.
THIS IS WHAT WE WRESTLED WITH.
UH, WE TOOK YOUR FEEDBACK IN DECEMBER.
WE WENT BACK AND HAD, UH, ANOTHER, UH, SIX MEETINGS SINCE THEN.
UH, UH, THE DEFINITION OF A BAD ACTOR, WHO WOULD THIS APPLY TO? WELL, IF YOU GET THREE DESIGNATED CITATIONS, WE STARTED, REMEMBER IN DECEMBER, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT FIVE.
WE REALLY GET DOWN TO THIS THREE, UH, POINTS, OR THREE STRIKES, OR THREE DESIGNATED CITATIONS.
SO THREE STRIKES OR THREE DESIGNATED CITATIONS.
WITHIN A SIX MONTH PERIOD, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO REGISTER WITH THE CITY, AND YOU'RE GONNA BE SUBJECT TO MONTHLY, UH, PROACTIVE INSPECTIONS.
UM, AND THAT REALLY FOCUSES ON PROPERTY PROPERTIES THAT DON'T QUICKLY FIX THE ISSUE.
UH, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN DECEMBER.
THE GROUP TALKED ABOUT THIS VERY EARLY ON.
UH, IF A VIOLATION HAPPENS AND THE CITY COMES OUT, WE WANT TO, THE, THE, THE MAIN GOAL IS FOR THAT PROPERTY OWNER TO FIX THE VIOLATION QUICKLY.
AND THAT NOTICE WILL BE GIVEN, MOST OF, MOST OF OUR NOTICES ARE 10 DAYS, UH, IN OUR CURRENT PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE.
UH, AND THEY'LL HAVE TO FIX THAT WATER LEAK, FIX THAT HOLE IN THE WALL, FIX THAT STRUCTURAL ISSUE, WHATEVER THAT IS.
UM, BUT IF THEY DON'T FIX IT, IT'LL BE A CITATION.
AND THREE OF THOSE WITHIN SIX MONTHS, UH, IS WHAT WE CALL TOO MANY THAT YOU WOULD BE, UH, SUBJECT TO THIS, UH, REGISTRATION PROGRAM.
WHAT WE ALSO DID, WE ALSO WENT BACK AFTER DECEMBER, WE ACTUALLY PRIORITIZED OUR CODE VIOLATIONS.
I KIND OF MENTIONED IT ALREADY, UH, A LITTLE BIT, BUT, UH, SOME OF THE FEEDBACK IS, HEY, SOME OF THAT EXTERIOR STUFF IS NOT, IS NOT SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE GETTING CALLED THAT IS CAUSING THIS REALLY MAJOR LIFE SAFETY, HEALTH SAFETY ISSUE.
SO WE ACTUALLY, IN ORDER TO GET THAT THREE DESIGNATED CITATIONS, WE TOOK A, THIS WAS A VERY LONG PROCESS,
WE WENT THROUGH OVER A HUNDRED CODE SECTIONS THAT ARE IN OUR SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE.
AND WHEN I SAY WENT THROUGH A HUNDRED, THE GROUP WENT DOWN THE LIST, SECTION 3 0 3 0.1, 3, 0 3 0.2, OVER A HUNDRED OF THOSE TO DECIDE, WHICH IS MORE LIFE SAFETY AND WHICH IS MORE STILL A VIOLATION, BUT IF, IS THIS REALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THIS ORDINANCE? AND, AND THEY DID THAT.
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OUT OF THE A HUNDRED, WE LANDED ON ABOUT, UH, 66, I THINK IT'S ABOUT TWO THIRDS, UH, OF THOSE THAT ARE REALLY LIFE SAFETY.AND THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT DEAL WITH STRUCTURAL MECHANICAL.
SO YOUR AC HEATING UNIT, PLUMBING YOUR WATER IN YOUR SEWER OUT ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS, OF COURSE, UH, THOSE FIXTURES, INTERIOR SURFACES, WE LIST THAT WALLS, FLOOR CEILINGS INSIDE YOUR UNIT, UH, YOUR MEANS OF EGRESS, OF COURSE, YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GET OUTSIDE, UH, UH, THE BUILDING AND TO A SAFE PLACE.
UM, UH, IF THERE'S A, AN EMERGENCY EVENT, FIRE SAFETY, PEST INFESTATION.
SO THAT'S KIND OF A SUMMARY OF ALL THOSE CODE SECTIONS.
WE HAVE PRIORITIZED THOSE TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS, UH, UH, PROGRAM.
UM, AND THEY DID A LOT OF WORK.
THIS TOOK, I THINK, FOUR OF THOSE 12 MEETINGS.
UM, AND WITH A LITTLE BIT EXTRA AT THIS LAST MEETING, WE, WE WERE STILL FINALIZING A COUPLE TWO DECISIONS.
UM, BUT A COUPLE EXAMPLES, I THINK I MENTIONED ONE, LIKE TALL GRASS, SOME OF THAT EXTERIOR STUFF.
IF YOU HAVE A CRACK IN THE SIDEWALK, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, ON YOUR PROPERTY, THAT'S NOT REALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
IT'S STILL AN ISSUE THAT HAS TO BE ADDRESSED THROUGH PROPER NOTICES, BUT THAT ONE WOULDN'T COUNT AS A, UH, A STRIKE OR A, A DESIGNATED CITATION, UH, FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS PROGRAM.
SO, SO WHAT HAPPENS IF, UH, YOU GET YOUR THIRD CITATION AND YOU HAVE TO REGISTER? SO, UH, THE CITY WILL GIVE YOU NOTICE.
SO, UH, HEY, YOU, YOU JUST HIT YOUR THIRD CITATION.
YOU ARE IN THIS CATEGORY OF YOU'RE NOT DOING IT WELL ENOUGH.
SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO REGISTER WITH THE CITY.
I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A FEW MINUTES.
UM, AND THEN YOU'LL BE SUBJECT TO IT ABOUT MONTHLY INSPECTIONS.
AND THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, UP TO ABOUT 5% OF THE INDIVIDUAL UNITS, THE ENTIRE PROPERTY.
BUT THEN ABOUT INDIVIDUAL UNITS, WE'LL COORDINATE, UH, KIND OF A, A SAMPLING OF THOSE.
WE WILL ALSO, UH, IF IT'S A SMALLER PROPERTY, REMEMBER I TOLD YOU IT COULD BE A FIVE OR SIX OR 10 UNIT PROPERTY, UH, SOMETHING LIKE A MINIMUM OF TWO UNITS.
UH, AND THEN, UH, WE CAN INSPECT MORE.
THIS WAS A COULD IF WE SEE MORE DURING THAT MONTHLY INSPECTION, AND WE HAVE WHAT WE CALL PROBABLE CAUSE OR REASON TO, OR THEY, SOMEONE JUST COMES UP TO US AND SAYS, CAN YOU LOOK AT MY UNIT TWO? ABSOLUTELY.
UH, UH, THAT, THAT'S OUR NORMAL CODE PROCESSES.
AND THEN WE ALSO, THIS IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE, WE WILL ALSO BE WORKING THROUGHOUT THE MONTH, NOT JUST WAITING FOR THAT MONTHLY PROACTIVE VISIT.
IF WE STILL ARE GETTING 3 1 1 CALLS FROM RESIDENTS, UH, THROUGH US, WE'LL BE WORKING ON THOSE AS WELL AS RE-INSPECTIONS ON ANY OF THE VIOLATIONS THAT ARE OUTSTANDING.
UH, SO THIS IS IN ADDITION TO ALL THAT OTHER WORK, BUT THAT MONTHLY INSPECTION PROGRAM IS, IS REALLY THE KEY.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, IF WE FIND MORE, THERE'LL BE SUBJECT TO NOTICES AND OR CITATIONS.
BUT THE GOAL IS TO IDENTIFY AND CORRECT ANY VIOLATIONS QUICKLY.
SO, UM, IF YOU'RE REGISTERED, SO HERE WAS A BIG TOPIC OF CONVERSATION.
SO YOU'RE REQUIRED TO STAY REGISTERED WITH THE CITY, UH, UNTIL YOU, AND WE USE THIS TERM GRADUATE.
THIS WAS THE TERM THAT KIND OF FLOATED TO THE TOP, UH, BECAUSE IT WAS IMPORTANT TO INCENTIVIZE SOMEONE.
IF YOU GET INTO THIS PROGRAM, WE REALLY DON'T WANT THEM TO BE IN THE PROGRAM FOREVER.
WE WANT THEM TO IMPROVE THEIR ABILITY TO PROVIDE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE AND GR GOOD HEALTH AND SAFETY CONDITIONS FOR THEIR RESIDENTS.
AND EVENTUALLY NOT HAVE TO HAVE THE CITY BE THERE EVERY MONTH TO CONFIRM IT.
AND IF THEY CAN PROVE IT OVER TIME, THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO QUOTE UNQUOTE, GRADUATE.
AND THAT'S AN INCENTIVE FOR ANYBODY THAT GETS INTO THIS PROGRAM TO HELP TO GET OUT.
BUT IT'S ONLY IF THEY CAN PROVE IT.
THEY PROVE THAT THEY HAVE KIND OF TURNED THE CORNER AND THEY, THEY'RE DOING BUSINESS BETTER.
UH, SO THAT REGISTRATION WOULD BE A MINIMUM OF SIX MONTHS.
YOU WOULD GRADUATE ONLY THOUGH, UH, IF YOU HAD LESS THAN THE THREE.
REMEMBER WE TALKED ABOUT THE THREE STRIKES, OR THE THREE CITATIONS WITHIN A ROLLING SIX MONTHS.
SO AGAIN, YOU HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, REALLY, YOU KNOW, UNDER THAT THRESHOLD FOR, UH, THE SIX, AT LEAST SIX MONTHS, ALL VIOLATIONS HAVE TO BE CORRECTED AT THE TIME.
AND THAT WAS WHERE WE LANDED ON AND WE RECOMMEND ON QUOTE UNQUOTE, GETTING OUT OF THE PROGRAM.
NOW, ONE KEY COMPONENT THAT CAME UP LATE IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WAS, WELL, WHAT ABOUT IF THEY GET OUTTA THE PROGRAM? AND THEN THEY'RE QUICKLY START DOING THEIR, YOU KNOW, BAD PROPERTY MAINTENANCE? AND WE ALL HAVE A TERM FOR WHAT WE WANT TO CALL THAT.
UH, BUT WE, WE SAY, LOOK, THEY JUST START GOING BACK TO THEIR BAD BEHAVIOR AGAIN.
WELL, THERE'S A CONCEPT THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND.
WE PUT IN THAT THERE'S THIS FOUR YEAR PROBATION PERIOD THAT SAYS IF YOU, IF YOU, IF YOU GET BACK IN THE PROGRAM AGAIN, IF YOU'RE REQUIRED TO REGISTER AGAIN AFTER YOU'VE INITIALLY GRADUATED, WELL, THE, THE MINIMUM TIME IS GONNA HAVE TO DOUBLE THAT YOU'RE INTO IT.
INSTEAD OF SIX MONTHS, IT'D BE A MINIMUM OF 12 STILL SUBJECT TO THAT ROLLING.
SO IT'S ANOTHER INCENTIVE TO THAT PROPERTY OWNER TO SAY, LOOK, YOU WERE IN IT.
ONCE YOU'VE TURNED THE CORNER, YOU NOW ARE DOING IT RIGHT.
YOU BETTER NOT DO IT AGAIN BECAUSE IT'S JUST GONNA BE WORSE AT THAT POINT FOR YOU, AND YOU'RE GONNA BE SUBJECT TO MORE INSPECTIONS.
YOU'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO PAY THE FEE, ET CETERA.
SO IT'S THAT BALANCE OF HOLDING THEM ACCOUNTABLE, BUT INCENTIVIZING GOOD BEHAVIOR.
SO THAT WAS AN IMPORTANT PART OF IT.
SO, UH, ONE OF THE OTHER ITEMS I'LL JUST MENTION THAT WE WOULD, UH, WRITE INTO THE ORDINANCE WOULD BE, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, HERE'S OUR NOTICES.
A LOT OF DISCUSSION, MAKING SURE THAT
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THE CITY'S NOTICES OF VIOLATION ARE VERY CLEAR AND CONCISE AND THEY QUICKLY GET TO THE PROPERTY OWNER.UH, THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT SOMETIMES, UH, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE WE ISSUE NOTICE.
WE ACTUALLY GIVE IT TO THE PROPERTY MANAGER ON SITE WHO'S NOT THE OWNER.
A LOT OF TIMES, UH, THEY MAY NOT BE THERE.
WE'LL TAPE IT TO THE DOOR, UH, OR THE FRONT DOOR.
WE'LL ALSO SEND IT THROUGH REGULAR U SS P S MAIL, UH, SNAIL MAIL, IF YOU WILL.
SOME OF THE OWNERS SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE'D LOVE TO ENSURE, IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN GET THAT ON DAY ONE AUTOMATIC? SO WE WOULD ALSO, UH, SEND IT THROUGH, IF THEY GIVE US A, UH, LIKE EMAIL INFORMATION, UH, THAT WE WOULD ALSO SEND IT TO THEIR EMAIL CONTACT THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER, SO THEY CAN SAY, I DID GET IT ON DAY ONE.
WE THINK THAT WILL ACTUALLY GET THEM, UH, MORE OPPORTUNITIES, UH, TO, TO GET IT DONE BEFORE WE, UH, GET TO THAT 10 DAY REINSPECTION, UH, FOR THAT.
UM, SOME OF THE LAST COMPONENTS HERE.
SO THERE WAS SOME CON CONVERSATION ABOUT APPEAL.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT, WELL, WHAT IF THE CODE OFFICER GIVES YOU A CITATION AND THE PROPERTY OWNER JUST DISAGREES? LIKE I, I, I THINK EITHER THE, THE CODE OFFICER WAS WRONG, UM, OR THERE'S AN EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCE THAT I COULDN'T GET IT DONE IN 10 DAYS.
BUT, UM, IT'S REALLY JUST, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A GOOD REASON FOR IT THAT, THAT WE WOULD WRITE IN THIS APPEAL PROCESS, THAT THEY HAVE TO APPEAL QUICKLY BEFORE THAT CITATION GOES TO COURT.
THAT THAT IS, THAT CITATION IS GONNA BE HEARD IN ABOUT THREE WEEKS IN FRONT OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE JUDGE, OR LONGER IF IT'S A CRIMINAL JUDGE.
UM, SO THERE'S AN APPEAL PROCESS WRITTEN IN SO THAT THEY CAN, IN WRITING, APPEAL TO THE BUILDING OFFICIAL, THE COURT OFFICIAL, THAT'S ME.
AND WE WOULD ACTUALLY, UH, REVIEW THEIR REASONS.
AND IT HAS TO BE, UH, A, A, A REASONABLE REASON THAT HAS SOME MERIT, RIGHT? UM, AND, AND AGAIN, THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON THE PROPERTY OWNER.
THEY HAVE TO CONVINCE US THAT IT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN A CITATION.
THINGS LIKE IT WAS ISSUED AN ERROR.
UH, MY CODE OFFICERS ARE ABSOLUTELY GREAT.
UH, WE TRAIN THEM A LOT, BUT TO SAY THAT WE'RE PERFECT, THAT I'M NOT GONNA STAND UP HERE AND SAY THAT IF WE ISSUED ONE IN ERROR, OF COURSE, I HAVE TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT OFF.
UH, SO THAT'S JUST, UH, WRITING DOWN WHAT WE DO TODAY.
BUT WHAT IF, UM, SOME OF THE EXAMPLES THAT THE TENANT REFUSED ACCESS TO THAT, AND THEY COULD PROVE IT.
THEY TRIED TO FIX IT, THEY COULDN'T.
NOW THAT, I DON'T KNOW HOW OFTEN THAT HAPPENS, BUT IT, IT DOES HAPPEN SOMETIMES WHAT WE'RE BEING TOLD.
SO IF THEY CAN PROVE THAT, THEN THAT'S, I COULD CONSIDER THAT.
WHAT IF WE HAVE ONE OF THOSE ACTIVE GOD EVENTS, RIGHT? WE HAD THE FREEZE ISSUE, A LOT OF PIPES BURST.
THEY, THEY HAVE ORDERED THE BOILER FOR THAT WATER TO GET HOT AGAIN, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA BE HERE FOR THREE WEEKS.
SO THEY COULD NEVER REPAIR IT IN THAT 10 DAYS.
IF THEY CAN PROVE THAT, THAT THEY DIDN'T JUST GO TO ONE SUPPLY HOUSE, BUT MAYBE ALL OF THEM ARE BACKORDER, UH, THEY, THEN THAT SHOULD BE SOMETHING WE CAN CONSIDER AND AT LEAST EXTEND THE TIME.
BUT AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A LOOPHOLE.
THIS IS A, THIS IS, IF THERE IS A NORMAL REASONABLE, UH, APPEAL OF THAT CITATION THAT I HAVE TO CONSIDER IT QUICKLY.
AND IF I SAY, NO, IT'S JUST GOING TO GO TO THE JUDGE ANYWAY.
BUT IT'S A, IT'S A CITATION, IT'S A STRIKE.
THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT, AND THERE WAS A, A FEW DIFFERENT WAYS THROWN ABOUT THAT.
BUT I, I THINK THIS IS A VERY SIMPLE WAY TO ENSURE THAT, UH, THEY CAN BE HEARD, BUT THEY'RE GONNA BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO FIX THE ISSUE.
AND IT HAS TO BE A REALLY GOOD, UM, UH, REASON FOR ANY APPEAL TO BE GIVEN.
SO LASTLY, UH, BEFORE I OPEN UP TO YOU ALL, UH, FISCAL IMPACT, THIS IS GONNA COST, UH, THOSE BAD ACTOR PROPERTIES SOME MONEY.
AND ACTUALLY, WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE THAT DETERMINED YET, BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON A LOT OF VARIABLES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AND, AND DECIDE UPON, UH, GETTING SOME FEEDBACK FROM YOU ALL TODAY.
UH, BUT THE IDEA IS THAT IF YOU'RE REGISTERED, IF YOU'RE THAT BAD ACTOR, YOU PAY FOR THIS PROGRAM.
IF YOU'RE NOT, IF YOU'RE A PROPERTY OWNER THAT DOES GOOD MAINTENANCE, DOESN'T NEED THIS EXTRA SERVICE, YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS, YOU'RE SERVING YOUR TENANTS WELL, YOU DON'T HAVE TO REGISTER AND PAY A FEE TO THE CITY.
BUT IF YOU'RE ONE OF THESE BAD ACTORS, YOU SHOULD PAY FOR THE SERVICE OF MORE CODE OFFICERS COMING TO HELP ENSURE, UH, THAT YOU BRING THEIR PROPERTY, UH, PROPERTY BACK UP TO CODE.
NOW, I HAVE AN ESTIMATE HERE OF WHAT A APARTMENT CODE ENFORCEMENT TEAM WOULD LOOK LIKE.
THE CODE CODE ENFORCEMENT SUPERVISOR, FOUR CODE OFFICERS.
SO I'M JUST GONNA, I THREW THAT IN THERE.
THAT'S ALREADY IN OUR BUDGET, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT.
AND, AND WE WOULD CALL A SENIOR MANAGEMENT ANALYST THAT'S SOMEONE THAT'S GONNA, YOU KNOW, MONITOR THE INFORMATION, THE DATA REPORT OUT.
UM, I KNOW THIS IS A VERY HIGH PROFILE ISSUE.
WE WANNA BE ABLE TO REPORT THAT THIS ACTUALLY IMPROVES, THAT THE LIVING CONDITIONS IN, IN THOSE APARTMENTS THAT, THAT, UH, THAT ARE NOT DOING A GOOD JOB.
SO IT WOULD BE, UH, BETWEEN, IT WOULD BE ABOUT $380,000 THE FIRST YEAR, 300 AFTER THAT.
'CAUSE WE HAVE TO BUY VEHICLES FOR CODE OFFICERS AND COMPUTERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
BUT THERE IS, UH, THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO, UH, ADD STAFF FOR THIS.
UM, AND THEN IF I WOULD JUST SAY, LIKE, IF WE DIDN'T, AND THAT WILL BE SOMETHING WE'LL HAVE TO DISCUSS, CERTAINLY THROUGH THE ORDINANCE AND OR BUDGET PROCESS.
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WE DIDN'T, THEN I WOULD HAVE TO USE OUR EXISTING RESOURCES, UM, AND TAKE AWAY FROM SOME OTHER PROGRAMS. AND IT COULD BE THINGS LIKE SWEEPS, UH, THE, THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR CORRIDOR SWEEPS PROGRAM, OR JUST GENERAL CODE ENFORCEMENT AND NEIGHBORHOODS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.UH, BUT THAT'S JUST IF WE, IF WE DON'T GET IT, UH, THROUGH THERE.
SO OUR RECOMMENDATION, I THINK THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE STAKEHOLDER GROUP IS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE.
UH, IT DOES THOSE, UH, UH, THOSE REALLY GOALS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, INCENTIVIZING, GOOD PROPERTY MAINTENANCE, UH, HOLDING, UH, BAD ACTOR, APARTMENT, UH, OWNERS ACCOUNTABLE.
AND THEN, UH, WE CAN PROACTIVELY VERIFY, UH, THOSE, UH, IN THE FUTURE.
SO WITH THAT SAID, THAT'S THE END OF MY PRESENTATION, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, AND THANK YOU TO ALL OF THE STAFF THAT WORKED ON THIS, AND TO ALL THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO ARE STILL HERE AND WHO HAVE WORKED AND WHO HAVE COME OUT TODAY, UM, AND WHO GAVE SO MANY HOURS OF YOUR TIME.
SO I KNOW THAT WE ADDED A WHOLE LOT OF MEETINGS, ESPECIALLY OVER THE, UM, HOLIDAY SEASON.
SO, SO TO ME, THIS IS A REALLY BIG DEAL.
LIKE THIS IS A, A, A SPECIAL OCCASION, RIGHT? AND SO UNFORTUNATELY, WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR IT SINCE 2014 OR SO.
SO IT'S ABOUT A DECADE IN THE MAKING.
AND SO, UM, SEVERAL YEARS WE'VE HEARD OF HORRIBLE LIVING CONDITIONS EVEN BEFORE A LOT OF US WERE ON THE COUNCIL.
AND SO, UM, IT'S, IT'S ABOUT TIME THAT WE HAVE HONEST, HARDWORKING RESIDENTS, UM, HERE IN, IN IN MIND, RIGHT? AND SO, SO I APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, IT'S ONLY UNTIL NOW THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE A POLICY TO REVIEW.
I KNOW THAT PEOPLE HAVE TALKED ABOUT, AND I THINK COUNCILMAN VRAN MENTIONED EARLIER, UM, WITH THE BILL OF TENANTS RIGHTS, LIKE PEOPLE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT IT'S NEVER BEEN DONE.
AND SO, UM, I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT WE ALSO HAVE, UM, BOTH SIDES OF THE ISSUE THAT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS.
AND, UM, I KNOW THAT NOT, UH, EVERYBODY ALWAYS GETS, UM, WHAT THEY WANT, BUT THERE'S A, A HAPPY MEDIUM POINT I TO QUOTE ANDIS GOVIA FROM A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
HE SAID, WELL, COUNCILWOMAN, BOTH SIDES ARE UPSET AT ME.
SO THAT MEANS THAT
UM, AND SO, SO I FEEL LIKE ANDY SEGOVIA TODAY IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
UM, BUT CAN YOU HELP ME, MIKE? CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH THE, THE TIMELINE OF HOW WE WOULD MAYBE ENGAGE, UM, LIKE LET'S SAY WE HAD A SEVEN OAK SITUATION, UM, IF, IF THIS HAD BEEN ADOPTED BEFORE, LIKE WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IN THAT CASE? SURE.
AND I'LL START OFF BY SAYING, I HOPE SOMEDAY YOU'LL QUOTE ME IN A MEETING LIKE THIS, BUT I'LL HAVE TO SAY SOMETHING WORTHY, I GUESS.
UH, NO, SEVEN OAKS, LET'S USE THAT AS A REAL LIFE EXAMPLE.
UH, WHEN WE GOT CALLED OUT THERE, THERE WERE MANY VIOLATIONS, UH, VERY QUICKLY THAT WE IDENTIFIED.
UH, WE HAD SENT A KIND OF A BUNCH OF, UH, OF, UH, CODE OFFICERS, WE CALL 'EM OUR MULTI-TENANT INSPECTION, UH, MEMBERS RIGHT NOW.
WE PULLED THEM OFF THEIR OTHER JOB.
WE SAID, HEY, GO LOOK AT THIS APARTMENT.
UH, THERE WERE MANY VIOLATIONS.
I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT NUMBER, UH, I KNOW MY TEAM DOES.
BUT THEY QUICKLY, IN, UH, 10 OR SO DAYS, IN A COUPLE WEEKS, THEY HAD CITATIONS, UH, AND THEY WOULD'VE HAD THREE EASY.
AND SO THEY WOULD'VE BEEN SUBJECT TO REGISTERING, AND THEN, THEN THEY WOULD'VE HAD TO COME IN, UH, YOU KNOW, REGISTER, PAY THE FEE, AND THEN WE WOULD'VE STARTED, IN ADDITION TO ALL THE CALLS WE WERE STILL GETTING AND THE RE-INSPECTIONS, THEY WOULD'VE BEEN GETTING MONTHLY INSPECTIONS, UH, IN ORDER TO DO THAT.
SO THEY WOULD HAVE PROBABLY BEEN, IT WOULDN'T HAVE TAKEN THEM SIX MONTHS TO GET THEIR THREE, UH, STRIKES.
I'M USING THE WORD STRIKES POINTS, WHATEVER WE CALL THEM.
UM, THEY WOULD'VE GOT THEM ALMOST RIGHT AWAY.
SO DOES THAT, CAN I GIVE YOU THAT TIMELINE? YEAH, NO, THAT'S GOOD.
AND SO THAT MAKES ME FEEL BETTER, RIGHT? YEAH.
BECAUSE, UM, IT, IT WOULDN'T HAVE TAKEN AS LONG.
SO, AND THEN WHEN YOU COUPLE, WHATEVER WE'RE DOING WITH THE, THE, THE FIRST, UM, ITEM THAT WE DISCUSSED EARLIER TODAY, RIGHT? THEN THAT'S HELPFUL.
UM, I LIKE THAT YOU ADDED THE GRADUATION PIECE, RIGHT? BECAUSE THERE'S, UM, UH, MAYBE PROPERTY OWNERS AND RECOVERY, RIGHT?
AND SO, UM, SO I APPRECIATE THAT, THAT YOU ALL HAVE THAT.
I, I DO THINK THAT, UM, OUR PRIORITY IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROVIDE A SAFE AND COMFORTABLE HOME FOR FAMILIES, RIGHT? AND SO WE HAVE TO DO THAT TOGETHER.
AND THEN, UM, ALSO AFTER 12 TO 18 MONTHS, LIKE CROSSING MY FINGERS THAT THE FULL COUNCIL WILL PASS THIS, AND THEN 12 TO 18 MONTHS OR SO AFTER, CAN WE COME BACK AND SEE HOW THE PROGRAM IS DOING? OR MAYBE KIND OF JUST GIVE US A, UM, A CHECK-IN POINT.
YEAH, I WOULD ABSOLUTELY RECOMMEND THAT.
I MEAN, UM, IT, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE, I THINK, 12 TO 18 MONTHS TO LET THE, LET THE GET ADOPTED.
UM, I THINK SOME PROPERTIES WILL PROBABLY FALL INTO IT, OF COURSE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW QUICKLY, SOME, MAYBE QUICKLY, BUT, AND THEN SEE HOW IT'S IMPROVING SO WE CAN PROVIDE SOME, IS THIS WORKING? AND I THINK THAT ALSO GIVES, UH, THE COUNCIL AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT IF, UH, AND, AND ALSO STAFF TO RECOMMEND, HEY, WE, WE NEED TO ADD SOMETHING OR, OR, OR TWEAK SOMETHING.
UM, BECAUSE I THINK, I THINK IT'S GONNA WORK.
I'M, I'M, I'M CONFIDENT IT'S GONNA WORK AND DO WHAT WE WANT IT TO DO, BUT, UH, USUALLY A YEAR, A FEW LESSONS.
AND, UM, AND THAT'S WHEN WE CAN PROBABLY PROPOSE
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A TWEAK, UM, OR, OR WHATEVER WE WOULD NEED TO, TO MAKE IT BETTER.AND I APPRECIATE THE PROACTIVITY IN THIS.
I ALWAYS FEEL LIKE, UM, WE AS A CITY ARE REALLY REACTIVE.
WE WAIT UNTIL SOMETHING HAPPENS.
SO I, I APPRECIATE, BUT ALSO, I MEAN, IT'S ALMOST 10 YEARS, SO
UM, WE'LL START OFF WITH COUNCIL COLLEAGUE COMMENTS, AND I'LL START WITH COUNCILMAN COURAGE.
I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT WAS DONE BY ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE INVOLVED IN THIS.
AND, UH, MY OFFICE IS KIND OF WATCHED AND, AND LISTENED IN, AND, UH, I KNOW THERE WAS, UH, A LOT OF GIVE AND TAKE.
UH, AND SO I'M PLEASED TO SEE THAT WE'VE, WE'VE COME TO, UH, A RECOMMENDATION.
NOW, LET ME ASK, UH, HOW MANY RENTAL UNITS DO WE THINK WE HAVE IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO? UH, THE BEST NUMBER IN WORKING WITH OUR, OUR FRIENDS OVER AT NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING, ABOUT 280, 80,000 UNITS.
UM, AND THAT, BUT THAT MAY INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE FOUR PLEXES OR SO.
BUT ABOUT, LET, LET'S SAY OVER 250,000 IS ABOUT, ABOUT WHAT WE THINK.
AND YOU'VE SAID THAT, UM, ABOUT, UH, THERE WERE CODE ISSUES THAT YOU IDENTIFIED, UH, THAT WERE MORE SIGNIFICANT MM-HMM.
AND THEN YOU SAID THERE WERE SOME THAT WERE OF A MI MORE OF A MINOR NATURE.
CAN YOU GIVE US AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT A COUPLE OF THE MINOR ONES COULD BE? THAT IF YOU VIOLATED THAT AND YOU DIDN'T GET IT TAKEN CARE OF SOON ENOUGH, IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY PUT YOU INTO THIS REGISTRY? SURE.
WELL, MOST OF THOSE, I'LL GIVE YOU A COUPLE EXAMPLES.
AGAIN, TALL WEEDS, HIGH GRASS, UH, SOMEONE, UM, LEFT, UH, A BAG OF TRASH.
THEY DIDN'T, THEY DIDN'T MAKE IT ALL THE WAY TO THE DUMPSTER.
UM, I COULD HAVE A SIDEWALK, UH, FROM A BILL FROM A BUILDING TO ANOTHER BUILDING THAT HAS, UH, MAYBE A CRACK OR A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S OFF.
YOU KNOW, HOW OUR SOILS MOVE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
UH, THOSE ARE STILL CODE VIOLATIONS, AND WE WOULD STILL ADDRESS THEM, BUT THEY WOULDN'T BE IN THAT, IN THAT TOP TIER LIFE SAFETY.
'CAUSE REMEMBER THE PROBLEM THAT WE, WE ARE SEEING, AND IT WAS HIGHLIGHTED AGAIN THIS SUMMER OR THIS PAST SUMMER, IS INSIDE THE UNIT OR MAJOR STRUCTURAL ISSUES, OR WATER LEAKS OR, OR SEWER LEAKS ALL THROUGHOUT THE PROPERTY.
SO, UH, JUNK VEHICLES CAME UP.
IT'S NOT GOOD TO HAVE A JUNK VEHICLE IN AN APARTMENT COMPLEX OR ON A SINGLE FAMILY LOT.
UH, BUT IS THAT REALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR THIS PROGRAM? SO THOSE ARE A FEW OF THE EXAMPLES, BUT THERE ARE 66, YOU SAID, THAT WOULD OR COULD LEAD TO SOMEBODY, I THINK IT WAS 6 66 PROPERTY BEING PUT ONTO THE REGISTRY IF THEY CONTINUE.
YEAH, IT WAS A GOOD TWO THIRDS OF THE CODE SECTIONS.
YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE CODE IS, IS, IS, IS REALLY FOR HEALTH AND SAFETY.
SO THAT WAS NOT SURPRISING THAT IT WAS GONNA BE MOST OF THEM.
UH, BUT WE DID WANT TO, UH, NOT CAPTURE SOME OF THOSE OTHER, UH, LESS EMPLOYEES.
NOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE COMMITTEE HAD 12 MEMBERS MM-HMM.
SO THEY WERE INDIVIDUAL RENTERS, AND THEN THERE WAS AN ORGANIZATION THAT REPRESENTS RENTERS IN DIFFERENT ISSUES, RIGHT? CORRECT.
AND THEN THERE WAS AN EQUAL NUMBER OF ADVOCATES FOR PROPERTY OWNERS.
AND WHAT WAS THE FINAL RESULT OF, OF THEIR NEGOTIATIONS AND DISCUSSIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT WHEN IT CAME TO MAKING A FINAL VOTE TO RECOMMEND THIS COME TO THIS COMMITTEE? WELL, WE, WE ACTUALLY, OUR LAST MEETING WAS THIS MONDAY, AND WE WERE REALLY DEALING WITH EACH OF THESE INDIVIDUAL ISSUES TO TRY TO GET A GENERAL CONSENSUS OR A POSITIVE MM-HMM.
SOME THINGS WE ACTUALLY, DID EVERYBODY RAISE THEIR HAND VOTE? OR SOME OF THEM ARE VIRTUAL MEETINGS, SO VIRTUALLY RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY, YAY OR NAYYY OTHERS.
EVERYBODY JUST KIND OF AGREED.
SO, UM, I, I CAN JUST SAY THE GROUP, I THINK THEY RECOMMEND WHAT YOU SEE HERE.
AGAIN, NOT EVERYBODY LOVES EVERY SINGLE DETAIL, BUT IN GENERAL, HAVING A THREE STRIKE IN YOUR END, HAVING, UM, MONTHLY INSPECTIONS AS DESCRIBED, UH, HAVING, UH, THAT VERY QUICK AND REASONABLE APPEAL PROCESS THAT'S DESCRIBED THERE, NOT A LOOPHOLE.
THAT IS WHAT, WHAT THE GROUP RECOMMENDS.
COUNCILMAN CASTILLO, UH, THANK YOU CHAIR.
THANK YOU, MIKE, FOR THE PRESENTATION AS WELL AS FOR FACILITATING THOSE, UH, PROACTIVE INSPECTION, UH, COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
UM, YOU AND YOUR TEAM DID A GREAT JOB.
UM, I, I DO WANNA THANK, UM, I BELIEVE IT WAS CELIA, KEISHA, AND KAYLA, RIGHT? UH, WITHIN THEIR PUBLIC COMMENT, THEY ESSENTIALLY HIT ON HOW QUALITY, SAFE AND SANITARY HOUSING IS A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE AS WELL.
RIGHT? AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'VE HEARD FROM MY RESIDENTS WHO ARE HOMEOWNERS AS WELL, RIGHT? UM, WHO MAY LIVE NEXT DOOR TO A MULTI-FAMILY APARTMENT
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COMPLEX, IS THAT THEY'RE CONCERNED THAT, ONE, THEY HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER WHO LIVES THERE AND THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE QUALITY.BUT TWO, HOW, YOU KNOW, FAILING TO MEET SOME OF THESE, UM, CODE REQUIREMENTS, UH, IMPACTS THE NEIGHBORING QUALITY OF LIFE AS WELL, RIGHT? THERE'S CONCERNS ABOUT, UH, UH, RODENTS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
SO, UM, JUST REALLY PLEASED TO SEE THAT WHILE WE'RE HAVING THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE TENANT BILL OF RIGHTS, THERE'S THE ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED AS WELL.
SO, UH, I, I WANTED TO THANK YOU AND YOUR TEAM FOR THAT.
UH, ON SLIDE 13, UM, IT, IT MENTIONS THAT, UM, WITH LESS THAN THREE CITATIONS, UM, YOU'D GRADUATE ESSENTIALLY.
UM, BUT WOULD THAT INCLUDE, UM, BEING CITATION FREE OR YOU COULD GRADUATE WITH THREE CITATIONS? NO, NO.
SEE THAT BULLET RIGHT BELOW IT, ALL VIOLATIONS HAVE TO BE CORRECTED, SO MM-HMM.
YOU HAVE TO BE CITATION FREE AT THE TIME OF GRADUATION.
UH, AND THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO INCLUDE IN THERE A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT THAT THRESHOLD LEVEL, UH, BUT WE REALLY, WE REALLY LANDED ON WHATEVER GETS YOU IN THAT THRESHOLD IS WHAT GETS YOU OUT WITH THE ADDITION THAT EVERYTHING HAS TO BE CLEARED, SO.
AND THEN, UH, FOR UP TO 5% OF INDIVIDUAL UNITS EACH MONTH, HOW DID THE, THE COMMITTEE COME UP COME TO 5%? YEAH.
WELL, WE DISCUSSED ANYWHERE FROM FIVE TO 10%.
UH, IT MAY EVEN A LITTLE BIT LOWER, BUT I THINK THAT THOSE ARE THE BIGGEST NUMBERS.
THE IDEA BEING THAT IF YOU'RE GONNA GET MONTHLY INSPECTIONS, UM, WE WANT THIS TO BE, UH, A GOOD SAMPLING OF, UH, THE, THE UNITS MAYBE WE HAVEN'T BEEN CALLED INTO YET.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, BALANCE THE NEED FOR RESOURCES, UH, BALANCE THE NEED FOR COORDINATING.
'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO LET THEM KNOW, THE PROPERTY OWNER KNOW, HEY, WE'LL BE OUT THERE ON, UH, YOU KNOW, MARCH 3RD, THAT'S OUR INSPECTION DATE.
WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM, I THINK IT'S TWO WEEKS NOTICE, SO THEY CAN COORDINATE WITH RESIDENTS.
UH, WE HAD THE RESIDENTS CONVENIENCE IN MIND.
YOU KNOW, SOME RESIDENTS MAY BE WORKING TO LET THEM INTO THEIR UNIT.
WE WANNA GET THAT PERMISSION SO THE PROPERTY OWNER CAN, CAN COORDINATE THAT.
UH, SO, BUT WE THINK THAT 5%, EVEN IN, IN SIX MONTHS, IF YOU HIT ABOUT A THIRD OF THE, THE UNITS THAT WE REALLY HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN CALLED THAT, AND OF COURSE THERE'S GONNA BE OTHERS THAT WE GET CALLED INTO, UH, BUT ABOUT A THIRD THAT'S GONNA TELL US AND HAVE A GOOD SAMPLING OF REALLY WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THIS APARTMENT? ARE THINGS GETTING BETTER OR ARE THEY STAYING THE SAME OR GETTING WORSE? AND SO THAT WAS KIND OF THE LAST BIT OF THE DISCUSSION.
AGAIN, 10% WOULD, WOULD BE MORE, I'D GET OVER HALF IN THAT SIX MONTH PERIOD OR LONGER.
UH, BUT IT WOULD ALSO TAKE MORE RESOURCES TO DO THOSE INSPECTIONS.
SO AGAIN, WE WERE TRYING TO BE COGNIZANT OF, OF HOW MUCH WE WOULD HAVE, AND THEN ALSO COORDINATING WITH RESIDENTS TO GET IN AND OUT OF THEIR UNITS.
AND WAS THERE CONVERSATION ABOUT, UH, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THERE'S A PROPERTY OWNER WHO'S ON THE BAD ACTORS LIST AND THEY SELL THAT PROPERTY? UM, WOULD THE EXPECTATION, UH, LIKE WHAT WOULD THE FOLLOW UP ON COMPLIANCE LOOK LIKE UNDER A NEW PROPERTY OWNER? SURE.
WELL, THAT, THAT TOPIC WAS DISCUSSED A COUPLE TIMES, BUT WE REALLY NEVER GOT TO A RESOLUTION THAT SAID ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
RIGHT NOW, IN THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE, UH, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WOULD REALLY CHANGE THE STATUS IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM.
IT WOULDN'T, LIKE IF, IF I SOLD IT TO YOU, THAT DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY GIVE ANYONE, UM, UH, UH, THEY START AT ZERO OR THEY GET, IF THEY'RE IN THE PROGRAM, THEY, THEY'RE AUTOMATICALLY OUT OF THE PROGRAM.
BUT WHAT, WHAT REALISTICALLY WOULD HAPPEN, AND, AND WHAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IS, UH, WE WOULD ACTUALLY PROBABLY SIT DOWN WITH A NEW OWNER AS THEY'RE GETTING THEIR MONTHLY INSPECTIONS, OR MAYBE THEY'RE ON STRIKE TWO.
UH, THEY WOULD SAY, HEY, WE'RE THE NEW OWNER.
THIS IS OUR PLAN TO FIX ALL THE VIOLATIONS.
AND SAY, OKAY, WELL YOU'RE AT STRIKE TWO, OR YOU'RE IN THE PROGRAM NOW.
PROVE TO US THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY IMPROVE THE CONDITIONS HERE.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S HOW YOU WOULD GRADUATE.
NOW, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA BE PAYING ATTENTION TO IN THE 12 OR 18 MONTHS, BECAUSE AGAIN, UH, WE WANT TO HELP.
IF SOMEONE WANTS TO COME IN AND BUY THE PROPERTY AND MAKE IT BETTER, I DON'T WANT TO DISCOURAGE THAT, AND I DON'T THINK ANYONE WANTS TO.
BUT THE SAME TIME, WE DON'T WANT SOMEONE SELLING IT TO THEIR COUSIN-IN-LAW AND SAYING, WELL, IT'S SOMEBODY NEW NOW.
OR THEY HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH, UH, THROUGH SOME SORT OF, UH, TRANSFER IT OUT AND THEN OFF THE DATABASE.
THE PROPOSAL ORDINANCE DOESN'T, DOESN'T HAVE THAT.
BUT I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE AS STAFF WOULD SIT DOWN WITH THAT AND SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHERE YOU'RE AT.
YOU BOUGHT THIS IN THIS SITUATION, AND WE EXPECT YOU JUST LIKE WE WOULD'VE EXPECTED THE ORIGINAL OWNER TO HERE'S YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO GET OFF THIS PROGRAM, OR THIS IS HOW YOU'RE GONNA STAY IN IT.
UH, AND I WANNA THANK THE GROUP, UH, THAT CAME TOGETHER AND PUT THIS TOGETHER.
I LOOK FORWARD TO MOVING THIS FORWARD, UM, TO THE FULL COUNCIL.
SO I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE THIS FORWARD TO THE FULL COUNCIL.
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OF WHEN IT MOVES FORWARD TO FULL COUNSEL? NO.I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE IT SECOND, UM, THINKING, UH, I, YES, COUNCIL
SO I'M GLAD THAT WE FOCUSED ON THAT.
I DO LOOK FORWARD TO STARTING THIS PROGRAM SO THAT WE CAN GET A REPORT, UM, BECAUSE I DO WANNA SEE IF THOSE, UM, MECHANICAL ISSUES, THE, THE, THE UTILITY ISSUES ARE A MAIN CONCERN.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING WHAT WITH THE GROUPS, AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE KIND OF, IF WE LOOK AT IT AND NEED TO PIVOT, UH, ABOUT HOW, HOW DO WE HELP THEM GET THERE, OR WHAT IS IT THAT THEY'RE NOT DOING TO MAINTAIN THAT.
BECAUSE AS WE FACE THESE EXTREME WEATHER CONDITIONS, IT'S SO IMPERATIVE THAT OUR APART OUR, THOSE LIVING IN APARTMENTS CAN COUNT ON THEIR UTILITIES.
AND IF THEY CAN'T RIGHT NOW, WHAT IS IT GONNA BE IF WE GET ANOTHER RECORD, UH, HEAT OR ANOTHER WINTER STORM MM-HMM.
AND IT'S NOT A POINT OF, UH, IF IT'S WHEN IT HAPPENS AGAIN.
AND THAT, SO THAT'S THE THING THAT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE, WE ARE FOCUSING ON, ON THOSE ISSUES.
AND OF COURSE, WHEN THE PLUMBING GOES OUT OR THERE'S A LEAK, THEN COMES THE MOLD AND IT JUST BECOMES THIS BIG CYCLE.
SO I'M REALLY PLEASED TO SEE THAT, THAT THAT WAS A FOCUS, AND I'M REALLY PLEASED TO MOVE THIS FORWARD AND THEN GET A REPORT AS SOON AS WE HAVE DATA, UH, WHETHER THAT'S SIX MONTHS OR, OR 12 MONTHS FROM, FROM THE START OF THE PROGRAM TO SEE WHAT THESE VIOLATIONS ARE THAT, THAT OUR, OUR TEAM IS SEEING.
SO THANK YOU, MIKE, FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.
THANK YOU ALL, ALL OF YOU WHO ARE HERE TODAY, UM, THIS HAPPENS BECAUSE WE WORK TOGETHER AND WE COMMUNICATE, AND I'M JUST, I'M SO PROUD OF, OF WHAT WE HAVE HERE TODAY, BUT I KNOW THERE'S LOTS MORE WORK TO DO.
THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN VIEGA AND COUNCILMAN COURAGE.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR MY OWN MIND AND THAT THE AUDIENCES TOO.
UM, RIGHT NOW, THE, THE SITUATION IS IF SOMEONE LIVES IN A, IN A COMPLEX WHERE THEY BELIEVE THEY'VE GOT SOME SERIOUS PROBLEMS, UM, MOST OF THE TIME I THINK THEIR, UM, LEASE SAYS, BRING THIS TO THE ATTENTION OF THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT, RIGHT? AND SO THAT'S THE USUAL PROPER THAT, THAT THEY USUALLY ASK PEOPLE TO DO.
UH, AND I, I'VE HEARD SOMETIMES THAT PEOPLE SAY, WELL, WE WENT AND TALKED TO THEM AND IT WAS WEEKS AGO, AND THEY STILL HAVEN'T TOLD US WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
UH, SO WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT IT? AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT'S THREE OR FOUR WEEKS BEFORE THEY CALL CO COMPLIANCE THAT WE'VE GOT THIS PROBLEM, IT STILL EXISTS.
SO AT THAT POINT IN TIME, CODE WOULD SEND OUT SOME INSPECTORS, CODE COMPLIANCE INSPECTORS, AND THEY WOULD DETERMINE IF THERE'S A VIOLATION, AND THEN THEY WOULD GIVE A NOTICE OF VIOLATION.
AND THAT MEANS THE PROPERTY OWNER OR MANAGER WOULD HAVE 10 DAYS USUALLY TO CORRECT THAT.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE COULD BE LOOKING AT A PROBLEM THAT'S EXISTED FOR 20, 30, 40 DAYS OR SO FOR THE INDIVIDUALS LIVING THERE.
NOW YOU'VE ALSO SAID THAT IF THEY DON'T, IF THEY DON'T FIX IT, THEN THE CITATION GOES TO THE COURT, AND IT COULD BE TWO OR THREE WEEKS BEFORE IT EVEN GETS TO COURT TO DECIDE, YES, WE'RE GOING TO, UH, FINE.
WHAT IS THE TYPICAL FINE THAT A PROPERTY OWNER WOULD FACE FOR ANY OF THESE VIOLATIONS? YEAH, THE, THE INITIAL FINE, UH, THE INITIAL TICKET THAT WE GIVE THEM IS A $300 TICKET IN THE, IN THE CIVIL PART OF MUNICIPAL COURT.
'CAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE CAN USE QUICKLY.
IF WE DO THE CRIMINAL TICKET, THAT COULD BE UP TO $500, BUT THAT WILL TAKE MANY TIMES, MONTHS TO GET IN FRONT OF THAT JUDGE.
IF IT'S A REPEAT, IT COULD GO TO 500 AND UP TO A THOUSAND PER INSTANCE.
I'M JUST WONDERING IF THAT'S MUCH OF A CONSEQUENCE FOR PEOPLE THAT MAY HAVE BEEN SUFFERING FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS, UH, BECAUSE IT'S NOT GETTING DONE.
WE'VE CITED THEM, THEY HAVEN'T, UH, MET THE CITATION, THEN IT GOES TO COURT MONTHS DOWN THE LINE.
UH, ARE WE, UH, STUCK TO ONLY BE ABLE TO ASK FOR A $300 OR $500, UH, CHARGE FOR THAT? WELL, THAT ONE IS PART OF OUR CURRENT, LIKE KIND OF THE LEGAL PROCESS, UH, IN OUR CODES.
UH, SO I'D HAVE TO GET SOME GUIDANCE FROM THE ATTORNEYS ON THAT.
I, BUT, BUT, AND IF, AND IF THEY WANT TO COME UP AND, AND, AND MENTION IT, AND THEN I'LL, I'LL, I'LL SHARE ONE MORE ITEM AFTER THAT.
COUNCILMAN, WHEN IT COMES TO FINES AND CITATIONS OR PENALTIES, I THINK FOR A H O THEY'RE BOTH UP TO $2,000.
RIGHT NOW, THE ORDINANCES, UH, OR THE, THE AGREEMENTS THAT DONE WITH THE COURTS ARE, THEY'RE BASICALLY AT THREE, $500 RANGE RIGHT NOW.
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2000.UP TO 2000 IF THE CITY COUNCIL SAID, THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO IMPLEMENT.
AT THIS POINT, STATE LAW ALLOWS UP TO 2000.
I JUST WANTED TO ASK ABOUT, MAY I HAVE ANOTHER MINUTE OR SO? THANK YOU.
UM, THE OTHER THING I, I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT WAS, YOU KNOW, THE APPEALS PROCESS, AND I, I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE, THERE COULD BE UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES THAT, THAT CAUSES THIS TO BE A LONG TIME.
UH, ARE YOU THE SOLE DETERMINANT OF, OF THAT, UH, OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE APPEALS AS THE CODE OFFICIAL OR CERTAINLY MAYBE.
I MEAN, IF IN MY STEAD DEPUTY CODE OFFICIAL, UH, THAT WOULD BE MY CALL.
IN MY ROLE AS THE CODE OFFICIAL.
AND IF IT'S FIVE YEARS FROM NOW OR HOWEVER LONG, I'M NOT HERE.
I THINK THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO ASK.
THERE'S A MOTION ON THE TABLE BY COUNCILMAN VIVIE AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CASTILLO.
UM, LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE.
WE WILL MOVE ON TO, UM, WE HAVE TWO MORE
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ITEMS. ONE OF THEM IS AN EASY ONE.IT'S A CONSENT ITEM, IT'S ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
CAN WE TAKE THAT BEFORE ITEM NUMBER FOUR, JUST IN CASE WE LOSE QUORUM? OKAY.
SO ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS A RESOLUTION OF NO OBJECTION FOR LEGACY SAN ANTONIO.
NEW BROWNFIELD'S LPS APPLICATION FOR THE 2023 NON-COMPETITIVE 4% HOUSING TAX CREDITS FROM THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF 190 UNIT, AFFORDABLE MULTI-FAMILY RENTAL HOUSING DEVELOPMENT NAMED LEGACY SENIOR RESIDENTS, LOCATED AT 62 19 SOUTH NEW BRAUNFELS AVENUE IN COUNCIL DISTRICT THREE IN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT MORE THAN 20% OF THE TOTAL HOUSING IN THE CENSUS TRACT IS SUPPORTED BY THE H T C.
I DON'T THINK THAT THERE IS, UH, A PRESENTATION.
THIS WAS A CONSENT, SO UNLESS SOMEBODY NEEDS A PRESENTATION.
IS THERE A MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD? I, I MAKE, I MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, MOVE FORWARD.
THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR, AND THERE'S A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CASTILLO.
WE'LL MOVE ON NOW TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS A BRIEFING RELATED TO THE REHAB BARAMA PROGRAM, WHICH PROVIDES REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE PROJECTS FOR OLDER AND HISTORIC HOUSING STOCK.
AND THAT'LL BE PRESENTED BY SHANNON MILLER.
AND I CAN BE REALLY QUICK ABOUT THIS 'CAUSE UM, WE, WE'VE DONE INDIVIDUAL ONE-ON-ONE BRIEFINGS WITH EVERY MEMBER OF COUNCIL, AND THIS IS REALLY JUST A, FOR BRIEFING PURPOSES ONLY.
THERE'S NO ACTION THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN.
SO, UM, REHAB ORAMA IS OUR, IS OUR HOME REPAIR PROGRAM THAT O H P HAS ADMINISTERED, UM, SINCE 2017.
IT'S SORT OF AN, AN EVOLUTION OF OUR, UH, STAR PROGRAM, WHICH STARTED IN 2010, SO EVEN LONGER AGO.
UM, BUT IT EXPANDS THE VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES TO CORPORATE GROUPS AND OTHER, OTHER INDIVIDUALS BESIDES JUST STUDENTS.
UM, WHAT THIS ITEM IS ABOUT IS REALLY TAKING THAT, THAT VOLUNTEER AND SERVICE LEARNING CONCEPT AND, AND EXPANDING IT SO THAT WE CAN PERFORM, UM, LARGER SCOPES ON THESE BUILDINGS THANKS TO A PARTNERSHIP WITH NEIGHBORHOODS AND HOUSING SERVICES.
UM, I, UH, COREY EDWARDS IS THE DEPUTY HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICER.
COREY IS MANAGING THIS PROGRAM, AND HE JUST PASSED OUT A HANDOUT AS WELL THAT KIND OF SUMMARIZES ALL OF THIS.
BUT BASICALLY, AS I MENTIONED, UM, BECAUSE OF THIS PROGRAM, WHICH, WHICH WILL FOR THE FIRST TIME PROVIDE FUNDING FOR REHAB ORAMA, UM, WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO SCOPES OF WORK THAT GO BEYOND WHAT A VOL, WHAT A VOLUNTEER CREW CAN DO IN A SINGLE DAY.
UM, THEY WILL BE SCOPES THAT, THAT INCLUDE THINGS LIKE THE BUILDING ENVELOPE, THE STRUCTURAL SYSTEMS, UM, WEATHERIZATION WOOD, THINGS LIKE WOOD WINDOW REPAIR, AND ALSO JUST, UH, LIKE LIFECYCLE LONGEVITY OF THE HOUSING.
SO REALLY, UH, AIMED AT ARRESTING DETERIORATION OF THOSE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS SO THAT THEY, UM, CAN PROVIDE HOUSING FOR YEARS TO COME.
UM, THE PROGRAM WILL BE AIMED AT, UH, 80% A M I OR BELOW, BUT WITH A PREFERENCE TO 30% A M I OR BELOW, UM, FOCUSED ON PRE 1960 HOUSING STOCKS.
SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE DESIGNATED HISTORIC, JUST HISTORIC AGE.
UM, IN THE PAST, YOU CAN SEE SOME OF OUR AVERAGE, UH, PARTICIPANT STATS.
UM, THE AVERAGE AGE OF 66, THE AVERAGE LENGTH OF HOME OWNERSHIP IN THE PAST HAS BEEN 28 YEARS.
UM, HOUSEHOLD SIZE 2.8 RESIDENTS AND HOUSEHOLD INCOME UNDER 20,000 ANNUALLY.
UM, SO BASICALLY THE WAY IT WORKS IS THAT, UM, WE WILL WORK WITH OUR REHABBER CLUB, UH, CONTRACTORS TO VOLUNTEER THEIR OWN TIME AND THEIR OWN EXPERTISE, BUT THEY WILL BE PAID FOR THEIR CREWS AND OF COURSE, MATERIALS WOULD BE PROVIDED SO THE CONTRACTOR WOULDN'T BE PROVIDING THOSE MATERIALS.
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WILL COME FROM LARGELY TWO PLACES.ONE, WE HAVE AN EXISTING PARTNERSHIP WITH G***O MATERIALS WHO PROVIDE SOME, UM, MATERIAL TO THE PROGRAM AT NO COST.
AND THEN WE WILL UTILIZE MATERIALS FROM THE NEW MATERIAL INNOVATION CENTER AT PORT SAN ANTONIO.
AND SO BOTH OF THOSE THINGS WILL ALLOW US TO KEEP THE COST DOWN ON THE OVERALL PROJECT.
UM, TYPICALLY FOOD FOR VOLUNTEERS IS SPONSORED.
OTHER SOFT COSTS WE COVER THROUGH, THROUGH PRIVATE DONATIONS, AND THEN OF COURSE, THE VOLUNTEER LABOR.
AND SO WITH ALL OF THESE THINGS, WE ANTICIPATE BEING ABLE TO DO UP TO 30 HOUSES WITH THE $500,000 THAT WE WILL BE UTILIZING OVER THIS FIRST YEAR.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE REASON THAT WE'RE SHIFTING TO A MODEL THAT ISN'T SOLELY VOLUNTEER IS IT'S REALLY GOTTEN A LOT HARDER TO, UH, TO PUT ON THIS EVENT, ESPECIALLY SINCE COVID, UM, CONTRACTORS JUST AREN'T ABLE TO EXPECT THEIR CREWS TO COME AND WORK FOR FREE AND NOT BE ABLE TO PAY THEM.
AND SO, UM, THIS WILL ENABLE US TO CONTINUE THAT KIND OF VOLUNTEER SERVICE LEARNING MODEL, BUT REALLY ENHANCE IT AND PROVIDE MORE OF A VALUE TO, UM, PARTICIPANTS.
AND SO WE WILL, UM, AS I SAID, ADMINISTER THE PROGRAM IN PARTNERSHIP WITH N H S D.
UM, WE WILL INITIALLY HAVE $500,000 AND IT WILL BE SPENT OVER TWO MAIN EVENT BASED TIMEFRAMES.
SO ONE KIND OF IN THE SPRING, EARLY SUMMER, ONE IN THE FALL.
AND, UM, AND THEN, AND THE EACH, EACH ONE WILL BE GEOGRAPHICALLY KIND OF, UH, FOCUSED IN ONE AREA BECAUSE THAT REALLY HELPS TO GET MORE BANG FROM OUR, FOR OUR BUCK, KIND OF EXCITE THE VOLUNTEERS.
THEY, THEY SEE ALL THE WORK HAPPENING IN A SINGLE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, THE FIRST EVENT THIS, UH, SPRING WILL BE IN THE HISTORIC WEST SIDE.
AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS, AS I MENTIONED, COVID, UH, COVID O REALLY CREATED A LOT OF PROBLEMS FOR US IN TERMS OF, OF PRODUCING THIS EVENT.
AND SO WE HAVE SOME HOMEOWNERS THAT HAVE BEEN PRE-QUALIFIED TO PARTICIPATE THAT WE WEREN'T ABLE TO HELP IN OUR, UH, PREVIOUS WEST SIDE REHAB ORAMA.
SO THAT'S WHY WE REALLY WANT TO GO BACK THERE AND FULFILL THOSE, UM, PROMISES TO THOSE HOMEOWNERS.
AND THAT IS THE END OF MY BRIEFING.
UM, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT GROWING THIS PROGRAM.
UM, AND THANK YOU FOR BRIEFING MY OFFICE A A FEW WEEKS BACK, SO I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS TODAY.
UM, I REALLY LIKE THE FACT THAT IT USES, UH, VOLUNTEERS AND WORKS ON HOMES THAT ARE OLDER.
UM, AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN HISTORIC HOMES, RIGHT, THAT REALLY CAN'T AFFORD TO UPGRADE THEIR HOME WITHOUT, UM, HAVING TO, UM, MAYBE ASK FOR, FOR LOANS AND THEN WITH SOME RESTRICTIONS, RIGHT? THAT THEY'RE SOMETIMES NOT EVEN AWARE ABOUT.
SO, UM, I I, I AM HAPPY THAT, THAT WE'RE ABLE TO OFFER THIS.
AND ACTUALLY, I HAD SAID, I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION, BUT I DO, UM, IS THIS, THE APPLICATION PROCESS IS GONNA BE SIMILAR TO THE, UH, REHAB HOME APPLICATION.
IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO, BUT YOU KNOW, THE, THE BASIC REQUIREMENTS AND DOCUMENTATION THAT, THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR OTHER MINOR REPAIR PROGRAMS WILL BE, WILL BE VERY SIMILAR.
I NOTICED ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE IN HERE IS WEATHERIZATION, AND WE KNOW THAT, UH, C P S ENERGY HAS JUST FINISHED WEATHERIZING THEIR 30000TH HOME.
UH, ARE WE LOOKING TO ASK THEM TO PARTNER WITH US AND MAYBE DO PART OF THIS, THE WEATHERIZATION PART? YES, ABSOLUTELY.
THAT'S A BIG FOCUS OF THIS REHAB RAMA CONCEPT IS TRYING TO LEVERAGE AS MANY PARTNERSHIPS AS POSSIBLE SO THAT WE CAN DO AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
UM, WE CAN MAKE THE MONEY GO FURTHER, BASICALLY.
THANK YOU COUNCILMAN, COUNCILMAN VIE.
I'M, I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
I, I CAN'T WAIT TILL IT GETS BACK TO DISTRICT THREE.
UH, THE ONE THING I DO WANNA ENCOURAGE IS, I THINK IT WAS PRE PANDEMIC, IT WAS THE SHOTGUN HOMES, AND YOU ALL GOT A LOT OF GREAT MEDIA ON THAT.
SO MAKING SURE THAT THE STORY GOES OUT THERE, THAT WE'RE DOING THIS, BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED TO TELL THIS STORY, UH, ESPECIALLY ABOUT OUR OLDER HOUSING STOCK AND HOW WE CAN, WE CAN SAVE IT AND USE THAT.
SO, UH, YEAH, JUST LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU ON THE NEWS TELLING THIS STORY TOO.
ALRIGHT, WELL IT LOOKS LIKE I WAS GONNA TURN OVER TO LIKE YOUR CHAMP FROM HIS, FOR HISTORICAL HOMES, BUT SHE STEPPED OUT FOR A SECOND, SO I'M, I'M SURE SHE'LL FOLLOW UP WITH QUESTIONS FOR YOU, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH THERE.
THIS WAS JUST A BRIEFING ITEM, SO WE APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR WORK, UM, ON, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY.
UM, I THINK, UH, WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 1155.