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[Work Session 12:30 P. M. Staff briefing regarding case recommendations and other items for consideration on the posted agenda. Commissioners may direct questions to staff regarding items noticed on the posted agenda or regarding City of San Antonio policies or operations in order to elicit a response of specific factual information or a recitation of existing policy pursuant to Section 551.042 of the Texas Government Code. ]
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF WE COULD HAVE OUR SPANISH TRANSLATION SERVICES STATEMENT.UH, BEFORE WE BEGIN, IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A MASK, I BELIEVE WE STILL HAVE MASKS AVAILABLE.
SO OVER HERE IN THE CORNER, IF YOU ARE INCLINED TO NEED A MASK, WE DO HAVE THOSE AVAILABLE.
UM, MY NAME IS ROB SIPES AND I AM THE CHAIR OF THE ZONING COMMISSION FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT SEVEN ZONING COMMISSIONER.
I HEREBY CALL THIS REGULARLY NOTICED MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION INTO SESSION.
I'D LIKE TO DO A ROLL CALL BY ALLOWING THE ZONING COMMISSIONERS TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, STARTING WITH THE COMMISSIONER ON MY FAR LEFT.
MARCO BARROS, REPRESENTING DISTRICT NINE, JOHN BUSTAMONTE, DISTRICT FIVE, OSWALD ORTIZ, DISTRICT EIGHT, TAYLOR WATSON, DISTRICT TWO.
SUMMER GRADE HOUSE DISTRICT ONE.
CHARLES FUENTES FOR DISTRICT THREE
OH,
BEFORE I BEGIN, PLEASE TURN YOUR PHONES ON VIBRATE OR TURN THEM OFF.
THE ZONING COMMISSION IS AN 11 MEMBER BODY APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ZONING CASES UPON RECEIVING A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION, YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO FORWARD YOUR CASE TO CITY COUNCIL.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PROCEDURE, PLEASE CONTACT YOUR CASE MANAGER.
STAFF WILL BEGIN EACH CASE WITH A SHORT PRESENTATION OF THE REQUEST.
PART OF THE PRESENTATION INCLUDES A MAP THAT SHOWS THE AREA TO BE CONSIDERED FOR REZONING AND PROPERTY WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT.
PROPERTY CHECK MARKS INDICATE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND AN X INDICATES THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN OPPOSITION.
FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION AND ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION, THE APPLICANT WILL PRESENT THEIR REQUEST FOR THOSE THAT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE PROPOSED REZONING.
YOU WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THAT YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
THOSE IN SUPPORT IN OPPOSITION WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF MR. CHAIR THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER AND YOU ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO UTILIZE THE MAXIMUM TIME LIMITATION.
YOU WILL BE INFORMED THAT THE THREE MINUTES ARE UP.
FOR THOSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEIR TIME TO A SPEAKER, THIS IS IMPORTANT.
IF YOU'RE GIVING YOUR TIME TO A SPEAKER, YOU WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO PEOPLE GIVING THEIR TIME FOR A TOTAL OF NINE MINUTES.
AND YOU NEED TO STATE THIS WHEN THAT PERSON IS UP TO THE PODIUM TO SPEAK.
THOSE GIVING UP THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AND SIGNED IN TO SPEAK.
THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL LIMITED TO ONE SPEAKER WITH A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT ALONG WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSION QUESTIONS.
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THANK YOU.STAFF, IF WE COULD GO OVER OUR WITHDRAWN OR POSTPONED ITEMS. ITEM FOR POSTPONEMENT IS ITEM NUMBER ONE LOCATED AT 1900 NORTH ALAMO STREET.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU ARE HERE FOR ITEM ONE FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT, UH, NO.
AH, AND I SCROLLED TO ONE FOR SOME I'VE SCROLLED TO FOUR, SORRY.
ITEM ONE LOCATED AT 1900 NORTH ALAMO STREET.
UH, YOU'RE FREE TO LEAVE AS THOSE AS THAT ITEM WILL NOT BE HEARD TODAY.
AND WHEN THAT ITEM COMES BACK OR IF THAT ITEM COMES BACK, YOU WILL BE SENT ANOTHER NOTICE.
ALRIGHT, STAFF, IF WE COULD PLEASE GO OVER THE LIST OF ITEMS ON THE COMBINED AGENDA.
ITEMS FOR COMBINED AGENDA ARE ITEMS NUMBER SIX, ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, NUMBER 10, AND NUMBER 13.
UM, COMMISSIONERS, ANY OF THESE ITEMS YOU WOULD LIKE TO PULL
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TO INDIVIDUAL? I'LL JUST NOTE, SIR, THAT WE WILL TAKE ITEM SIX AND 10 FROM THIS HEARING FIRST AND THEN WE WILL ADDRESS ANY RECUSALS.SEEING NO ONE WITH ITEMS TO POOL, UM, STAFF, IF WE COULD READ THE, UH, COMBINED HEARING NUMBER ONE, THOSE TWO ITEMS INTO THE RECORD FOR ITEM NUMBER SIX IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM I D Z WITH USES PERMITTED IN R FOUR TO I D Z ONE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR ONE DWELLING UNIT FOR A MAJOR SITE PLAN, AMENDMENT FOR A DECREASE IN PERIMETER BUFFER BETWEEN I D Z PLAN AREA AND ADJACENT PROPERTIES WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
AND LAVACCA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT FOR ITEM NUMBER 10 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO R M SIX WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 7 31 ATLANTA AVENUE, 39 NOTICES WERE SENT.
ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND NO RESPONSE FROM THE TOBIN HILL COMMUNICATION OR COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION.
IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THOSE ITEMS? THERE ARE NO VOICEMAILS AND NO ONE IS, UH, SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR THEM.
IS THERE A MOTION FROM A COMMISSIONER? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION, UM, TO APPROVE ITEMS NUMBER SIX AND TEN SECOND.
ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE FOR APPROVAL OF ITEMS SIX AND TEN SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL TAKE ITEM SEVEN.
WE'LL TELL YOU ITEM SEVEN FIRST AND WE WILL LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE IS RECUSING HERSELF FROM THE, THIS ITEM AT, OH MY GOSH, ONE 10 N IF WE COULD READ ITEM, THE ITEM INTO THE RECORD PLEASE.
SO FOR ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, UM, APPLYING THE WEST SIDE CREEK'S WATER QUALITY PROTECTION AREA, OVERLAID DISTRICT TO EXISTING BASE ZONING DISTRICTS AND WITH ALL OTHER EXISTING OVERLAY DISTRICTS REMAINING UNCHANGED LOCATED WITHIN, UH, WITH LOCATED WITHIN 100 FEET OF EACH SIDE OF ALLAN APACHE, MARTINEZ, SAN PEDRO, AND ZARZA MARA CREEKS 6,454 NOTICES WERE SENT.
FIVE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, FOUR OPPOSED NO RESPONSE FROM THE 17 REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND WE DO NOT HAVE, UM, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT.
WITH NO PUBLIC COMMENT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THIS ITEM CHAIR.
UH, THERE'S A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM.
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES.
UH, COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE WITH THE SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE BRIEFLY, MR. BRIEFLY? OH YES.
COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE, SORRY.
THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR THOSE IN DISTRICT FIVE AND MANY OF THE NEIGHBORING DISTRICTS AS WE TRY TO IMPROVE THE ALLAN APACHE AND THE OTHER CREEK SYSTEMS IN OUR DISTRICTS.
THIS WAS MOVED THROUGH WITH THE U D C AMENDMENTS, UH, LAST YEAR AND SO I'M VERY HAPPY TO SEE IT.
AND I CONCUR AS A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT SEVEN WHO LIVES DOWN THE STREET FROM ONE OF THESE ITEM.
UM, THERE COULD I HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE.
ALRIGHT, UH, LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT CHAIR SIPES IS RECUSING HIMSELF FROM THE NEXT ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AT 1:11 PM FOR ITEM NUMBER 13 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING
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FROM MF 25 TO C THREE WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME, GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE 3000 BLOCK OF EAST INTERSTATE HIGHWAY.AND THERE IS NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND WE DO NOT HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT.
UH, CAN I GET A MOTION FROM ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS? MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 13 SECOND, UH, MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES.
ANY DISCUSSION? NO DISCUSSION.
CAN WE GET A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.
LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE AND CHAIR S SIPES RETURNED AT 1:13 PM THANK YOU.
AND I'M SORRY TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT AT SUCH LATE NOTICE.
UM, WE ARE MOVING ON TO OUR CONTINUANCE AGENDA.
SO I GUESS FOR THE ITEMS THAT WERE ON THE COMBINED AGENDA, UH, THOSE ITEMS HAVE BEEN APPROVED AND ARE MOVING ON TO CITY COUNCIL.
SO IF YOU ARE HERE FOR THOSE ITEMS, YOU ARE FREE TO GO ABOUT AND ENJOY THE, THE REST OF THE CLOUDY DAY.
UH, CONTINUE CONTINUANCE AGENDA, IF WE COULD GO OVER THOSE ITEMS PLEASE.
WE HAVE ITEMS NUMBER THREE, NUMBER FIVE, EIGHT AND NINE FOR CONTINUANCE TO, UH, MARCH 21ST, 2023.
ALRIGHT, ANY, OKAY, SORRY, CAN WE JUST, CAN WE READ THOSE INTO THE RECORD? SO FOR ITEM NUMBER THREE IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FOUR TO R FOUR CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT ONE 17 WEST WOODLAWN AVENUE, 25 NOTICES WERE SENT.
ONE OPPOSED MONTE VISTA HISTORICAL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED AND OUTSIDE 200 FEET, THEY DID RECEIVE ONE IN FAVOR.
ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO IDZ TWO WITH USES PERMITTED FOR ONE DWELLING UNIT WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 2 1 4 EAST LUSH LA CHAPPELLE.
ZERO OPPOSED AND NO RESPONSE FROM THE LONE STAR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO PUD R FOUR WITH A REDUCED PERIMETER SETBACK OF 10 FEET WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE 7,500 BLOCK OF PRU ROAD.
23 OPPOSED NO RESPONSE FROM THE ALAMO FARMSTEADS BABCOCK ROAD NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR THE OAK BLUFF.
H O A OUTSIDE 200 FEET, THEY RECEIVED 57 NOTICES IN OPPOSITION.
AND THEN FOR ITEM NUMBER NINE, IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO IDZ ONE WITH USES PERMITTED UP TO 37 DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 39 1 5 FLAGAL STREET.
MEMORIAL HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE OUTSIDE 200 FEET.
THERE WERE TWO OPPOSED AND WE DID RECEIVE, UM, VOICEMAILS FOR ITEMS NUMBER EIGHT AND ITEMS NUMBER ITEMS NUMBER EIGHT AND NINE.
ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD PLAY THOSE VOICEMAILS PLEASE.
I'M A RESIDENT OF THE PREVEN SUBDIVISION AND I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS MY OPPOSITION, THE REZONING CASE Z 2 22 4 7500 BLOCK OF ROAD R SIX TO R FOUR IF ALLOWED.
THIS WILL BE THE ONLY PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT I'M AWARE OF IN THE AREA AROUND SCHNABEL PARK AND THEREFORE INCONSISTENT WITH NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES.
MORE IMPORTANTLY, THERE ARE MANY CHARACTERISTICS OF THIS 11 ACRE PARCEL, WHICH IS A HIGHLY SLOPED HILL AND NOT A FLAT PIECE OF LAND LIKE WHAT THE DEVELOPER SITE AND MAY IMPLY THAT ARE OF SIGNIFICANT CONCERN.
THIS LAND SERVES AS A KEY DRAINAGE SOURCE FOR NEIGHBORING SUBDIVISIONS AND PROVEN ESPECIALLY HAS TRADITIONALLY HAD SIGNIFICANT DRAINAGE MAINTENANCE ISSUES THAT WOULD MOST LIKELY BE EXACERBATED BY MORE IMPERVIOUS SURFACES AROUND.
IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT TO DEVELOP THIS LAND WITHOUT SIGNIFICANT GRADING AND EXCAVATION RESULTING POTENTIALLY IN DETRIMENTAL CHANGES
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TO EROSION AND DRAINAGE PATTERNS CAUSING FLOODING AND AFFECTING SURROUNDING WATERWAYS LIKE THE LEON CREEK.NOT TO MENTION THE WILDLIFE BOTH THERE AND IN THE PARK.
THIS AREA ALSO HAS SIGNIFICANT ISSUES WITH SOIL FOUNDATION ISSUES ARE A COMMON PROBLEM IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND HAVE BECOME EVEN MORE SIGNIFICANT AND OBVIOUS IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
IT'S VERY POSSIBLE THAT THIS RUGGED SLOPE PIECE OF LAND IS SERVING AS A NATURAL RETAINING WALL FOR BOTH PRE-AND AND OAK BLUFF AND THAT WITH EXCAVATION AND SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO IT.
THE TWO SUBDIVISIONS ARE LOOKING AT NOT ONLY FURTHER FOUNDATION ISSUES, BUT ALSO LANDSLIDES AND A SIMILAR SITUATION AT THE HILLS OF RIVER MEST NEIGHBORHOOD, ONE MILE AWAY ON PERU ROAD, DEALT WITH FOUR YEARS, TRAFFIC CONTINUES TO BE ANOTHER BIG CONCERN.
THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL BE LOCATED ALONG THE SHARPEST PART OF THE INFAMOUS BEND IN THE PER ROAD RESPONSIBLE FOR MULTIPLE ACCIDENTS OVER THE YEARS.
IT'S STILL USED TO BE ANOTHER BIG CONCERN.
THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE LOCATED ALONG THE SHARPEST PART OF THE INFAMOUS BEND IN THE PER ROAD RESPONSIBLE FOR MULTIPLE ACCIDENTS OVER THE YEARS.
IT'S TOUGH AS IT IS TURNING INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND I CAN'T IMAGINE IT.
I CANNOT IMAGINE AND ENTERING THIS DEVELOPMENT, ESPECIALLY DURING RUSH HOUR IN WHAT IS ALREADY A VERY CONGESTED AND DANGEROUS PIECE OF PER ROAD.
ALSO, THERE IS THE ARGUMENT THAT THIS DANGEROUS CLIFF LAG, BUT ALSO NATURALLY ATTRACTED PIECE OF LAND SHOULD BE PRESERVED OR MADE INTO A COMMUNITY PARK.
EVERYONE AROUND WAS CONVINCED THIS LAND WAS A PART OF THE ISHBEL PARK OR THE GREENWAY.
IT HAD NEVER HAD ANY TRESPASSING SIGNS, FENCING OR LABELS IMPLYING IT BEING PRIVATE PROPERTY.
AND IT'S BEEN USED LIKE A PARK NOT ONLY BY OUR SUBDIVISIONS, BUT BUT ALSO BY THE LARGER COMMUNITY THAT ENJOYS THE OI SCHNABEL PARK AND THE GREENWAY.
FINALLY, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THAT COMMUNICATION WITH THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM CONTINUES TO BE AN ISSUE.
VERY LITTLE INFORMATION HAS BEEN SHARED WITH THE NEARBY COMMUNITIES, DESPITE ARE PLEASED TO DO SO SINCE LAST OCTOBER.
ALL OF THESE CONCERNS I MENTIONED STAND EXACTLY WHERE THEY STOOD LAST OCTOBER.
DESPITE A COUPLE OF MEETINGS WITH THE DEVELOPERS, REPRESENTATIVES OF THE COMMUNITY HAVE NOT BEEN PROVIDED.
NOT ONLY ANY DOCUMENTATION REGARDING THESE CONCERNS, BUT ALSO NO VERBAL ANSWERS ABOUT THE DETAILS OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
PLEASE CONSIDER OUR VOICES WITH THE UTMOST ATTENTION AND CONCERN.
THIS DECISION WILL HAVE PERMANENT CONSEQUENCES FOR SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT ALSO FOR THE LARGER SAN ANTONIO COMMUNITY.
MY ADDRESS IS 1 0 4 1 4 ELIZABETH COURT, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS SEVEN EIGHT TWO FOUR ZERO.
UH, MY PHONE NUMBER IS +1 301-788-4453.
I AM CALLING ABOUT CASE NUMBER, UM, Z DASH 2 0 2 2 DASH 1 0 7 0 0 1 9 4.
AND I AM VERY CONCERNED, THE HOUSE THAT I OWN IS RIGHT ON THE EDGE OF THE REZONING AREA IN PREVENT AND I DON'T FEEL THAT THE DEVELOPER AT THIS POINT HAS GIVEN ANY ANSWERS TO ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT REAL CONCERNS SUCH AS TRAFFIC AND WATER RUNOFF.
THERE'S ALREADY SOME DISTURBANCES AND FOUNDATIONS OF THE HOUSES IN PREVENT.
I KNOW SEVERAL NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE SOME, WE'VE HAD A FEW, SOME CRACKED TILES.
HARRIS HAS NOT BEEN AS BAD AS THE NEIGHBORS, BUT SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS HAVE HAD VERY BAD FOUNDATION ISSUES.
SO I DO NOT FEEL THAT ANYTHING SHOULD BE DONE AT THIS POINT UNTIL ANSWERS ARE GIVEN.
AND EVEN THEN, I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT ANY CHANGES IN WATER FLOW AROUND THE AREA.
I JUST REALLY FEEL THAT IT'S A BAD, IT WOULD BE A VERY BAD DECISION TO REZONE IT TO PUT ALL THOSE HOUSES IN.
THIS IS VICTOR SANCHEZ FROM 76 0 3 MOUNTAIN BLUFF.
UH, I AM CALLING ABOUT THE ZONING CASE, UH, ENDING IN 1 9 4.
UM, YEAH, JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU GUYS THE, MY INSIGHT.
I I WE, WE ARE ADJACENT TO THE, THE REQUEST TO CHANGE IT FROM R TWO P P U E D.
UM, YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU GUYS MY, MY POINT OF VIEW.
UM, DON'T BELIEVE IT'S A GREAT IDEA.
I, I, UH, YOU KNOW, THINK IT, THE APPROVAL IS NECESSARY FOR THIS ONE.
UM, THERE, THERE ARE MANY, MANY REASONS WHY, UM, THERE'S, JUST TO BEGIN WITH, WE HAVE A, UH, THERE IS A, UM, A NUMBER OF, UM, OF WILDLIFE THAT LIVES OUT THERE, UM, BESIDES, YOU KNOW, UM, THAT, THAT WE'VE SEEN,
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UH, FIRSTHAND, UH, FOXES, UM, FAMILY FOXES, FAMILY OF OF COYOTES AS WELL, UH, UM, TERRACOTTA AND MANY OTHER ONES.UH, UH, LOT ABUNDANCE OF, OF, OF, OF WILDLIFE THAT EXISTS OUT THERE THAT IS CLOSE TO EVEN TO THENA PARK, RIGHT? THAT WE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE WOULD BE, UH, UH, BASICALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, TEARING APART.
THE, THE OTHER THING IS THAT IS NOT, NOT, WE, IT'S IMPORTANT TO SAY THAT THAT THAT PART OF IT, IT'S REALLY IN A, IN A HEAVY PART THAT IS, UH, UM, IT ISN'T A, THE SENATE WHERE AQUIFER RESOURCE ZONE, UH, THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THE BAR, YOU KNOW, THE, THE DRAINAGE FROM BRAINS GO THROUGH.
UH, IT'S A REALLY STEEP AREA THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY WOULD BE TO DO IT, UH, TO BE ABLE TO, TO, TO MAKE IT SAFE FOR EVERYBODY HERE IN THE AREA.
UM, UH, BESIDES, YOU KNOW, BEING A A, A REALLY, REALLY BAD ZONE FOR, YOU KNOW, UH, ESPECIALLY THE CURVE THAT GOES THROUGH, THROUGH THAT PART.
UH, WE'VE SEEN A MANY, UH, MANY, UM, CAR CRASHES THAT ARE KIND OF THAT AREA, BUT IT'S REALLY A, A, A REALLY CURVE THAT IS HARD TO, TO THAT IS, HAS VERY MANY BLIND SPOTS THAT I WOULD SAY, UH, WOULD MAKE IT REALLY, REALLY, UH, WITH THE TRAFFIC.
ADDING MORE TRAFFIC TO THAT AREA WOULD BE, UM, NOT OPTIMAL.
AND IT WOULD BE VERY, A BIT SCARY TO BE HONEST, UH, TO SAY THE LEAST OF, OF, OF KIND OF THAT.
BUT YEAH, UM, I, I WOULD SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE THERE'S FEWER AREAS THERE AND, AND, AND US BEING PART OF, YOU KNOW, THE BACKGROUND BEING, UM, THE BACKYARD BEING, YOU KNOW, ADJACENT TO THAT.
I MEAN, WE, WE SEE HOW, UH, MANY IN THE COMMUNITY HAVE USED IT AS, AS A, YOU KNOW, UM, PART OF, YOU KNOW, AS AN EXTENSION OF FISH NAVAL, WHICH KIND OF, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF, UM, BIKE RIDING AND, AND FAMILIES JUST TAKING THE TRAILS, EVEN THOUGH I, I DO UNDERSTAND IT'S A, A PRIVATE PROPERTY, BUT, YOU KNOW, UM, YEAH, IT, IT, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR MANY DECADES, I WOULD SAY IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S BEEN TREATED AS KIND OF A, AN EXTENSION OF BULL BEACH NAS.
SO, SO, BUT YEAH, I'M, I'M MORE CONCERNED, YOU KNOW, TO BE HONEST IN, IN THE TRAFFIC, UM, THE TRAFFIC THERE, UH, THE SECURITY OF, OF THAT PIECE, WHEN WE COME OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, IT'S EVEN HARD TO SEE COMING FROM THE CHURCH.
UM, AND SO GOING TO THE RIGHT SIDE, IT WOULD BE REALLY, REALLY HARD.
SO YEAH, PART OF THE OLD LOVE HERE C COMMUNITY, SO YEAH, MY, MY SUGGESTION IS, IS NOT TO HAVE AN APPROVAL THAT, UM, AGAIN, AGAIN, THE AQUA FIRE, THERE'S A LOT OF WILDLIFE OUT THERE THAT WE WOULD BE REMOVED.
UH, MY NAME IS RICHARD GARCIA.
I'M A MEMBER OF THE MEMORIAL HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
UH, MY ADDRESS IS 1 6 6 TESLA DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 2 8.
AND MY CONTACT NUMBER IS 2 1 0 8 2 5 6 1 5 4.
AND IT IS IN REGARDING TO CASE ITEM NUMBER NUMBER NINE ON THE AGENDA FOR TODAY.
UH, ZONING CASE 1 0 7 0 0 0 13 HAS TO DO WITH 39 15 FLAGGO STREET.
I HAD EMAILED THE, UH, THE CITY COUNCIL IN OHIO, EMAIL MS. BENAVIDEZ, THE CASE MANAGER, AND ALSO, UH, CITY COUNCIL, AS WELL AS THE PRESIDENT OF, OF THE MEMORIAL HEIGHTS.
AND HE TOO HAD ASKED FOR A, FOR A, FOR A CONTINUANCE OR A POSTPONEMENT ON THIS CASE.
UH, IT'S BEEN ALMOST MORE THAN TWO YEARS OR SO SINCE WE'VE LAST MET WITH THE LAND DEVELOPER.
SO WE ARE ASKING AT THIS POINT, UH, MEMORIAL HEIGHTS IS ASKING FOR A CONTINUANCE SO WE CAN HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING AND SEE WHAT'S, UH, TO BRING US UP TO DATE OR GIVE US A REFRIGERATOR, REFRIGERATOR BEING THE KEY WORD AS TO WHAT, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE BEING PROPOSED.
'CAUSE A LOT OF THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE THEN.
REALLY, I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR THAT WE HAVE THIS ZONING, UH, HEARING TODAY ON THIS CASE BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT HAD A, A, A MEETING WITH HIM SINCE, ALMOST SINCE 2019.
SO THAT'S BEEN ALMOST TWO OR THREE YEARS.
SO IN ESSENCE, IT'S ONLY FAIR THAT WE DO HAVE, HAVE ANOTHER MEETING WITH THE, UH, WITH THE, UH, ZONING AGENT AND, AND, AND THE LAND DEVELOPER TO SEE WHAT, WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING AGAIN.
UH, LIKE I SAY, AND THE REASON WE'VE NOT HAD A MEETING FOR OBVIOUS REASONS, UH, COVID HIT OUR LIBRARY WAS CLOSED.
OUR MEETING, UH, WHERE WE HAD OUR MEETING PLACE WAS CLOSED FOR SO MANY YEARS.
AND SO NOW AT THIS POINT, WE ARE AS WE, WE, WE HAVE OUR LIBRARY OPEN AGAIN, OUR MEETING PLACE AGAIN.
AND SO IT'S ONLY FAIR THAT WE HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING WITH THESE PEOPLE BEFORE WE PROCEED WITH THIS CASE.
AND HOPEFULLY WE TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION.
HELLO, THIS IS ON BEHALF OF ROLANDO MORALES.
ADDRESS IS 3 4 6 ALSUP, A L L S U P STREET, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 3 7.
THIS IS IN REGARDS TO ZONING CASE Z 2 0 2 3 1 0 7 0 1 3.
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AGAIN, LAST NUMBERS ARE 1 0 7 0 0 0 1 3.DO WE HAVE ANY CITIZENS SIGNED UP TO, TO BE HEARD ON THESE ITEMS? NO, SIR.
UM, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FROM A COMMISSIONER FOR THOSE TWO ITEMS. UM, I'M LOSING COUNT.
I MOVE FOR A CONTINUANCE TO MARCH 21ST.
2023 FOR ITEMS 3, 5, 8, AND NINE.
MOTION IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE FOR A CONTINUANCE OF ITEMS 3, 5, 8 9 TO THE MARCH 21ST MEETINGS.
SECOND MAY 2ND WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE.
DISCUSSION, LOOKING LEFT, LOOKING RIGHT.
WE'LL NOW MOVE ON TO OUR INDIVIDUAL HEARING ITEM NUMBER TWO.
IF WE COULD HAVE STAFF'S PRESENTATION PLEASE.
MY NAME IS KELLY SANDERS, PLANNING COORDINATOR WITH THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER TWO IS LOCATED AT, UH, 1 2 5 0 5 WALLER ROAD GOING FROM R SIX TO M F 18 WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
THERE WERE 22 NOTICES SENT OUT.
SIX OPPOSED AND NO RESPONSE FROM THE HILLS OF RIVER MISSED H O A OUTSIDE 200 FEET.
WE RECEIVED ONE IN FAVOR AND TWO OPPOSED.
THE EXISTING R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE AREA ALONG WITH THE PROPOSED MF 18 LIMITED DENSITY MULTIFAMILY DENSITY, UM, DISTRICT.
THE PROPOSED MULTIFAMILY USE INTRODUCES A DIVERSE HOUSING TYPE WHILE KEEPING CHARACTER OF THE ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND SUPPORTS SAN ANTONIO'S STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.
STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THIS ZONING CHANGE.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HAVE SAWS REPORT PLEASE.
MIKE ESCALANTE WITH SAWS AQUIFER PROTECTION AND EVALUATION SECTION.
WE HAVE REVIEWED THE ZONING APPLICATION LOCATED AT 12 12,000 5 0 5 WALLER ROAD, ALLOWING FOR A MULTIFAMILY PROJECT.
UH, CURRENTLY THE SITE IS UNDEVELOPED WITH NATIVE TREES AND UNDERSTORY.
UH, NO, NO SENSITIVE GEOLOGIC FEATURES WERE OBSERVED ON SITE.
SAS RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH ALL ENVIRONMENTAL RECOMMENDATIONS TO INCLUDE 50% PREVIOUS COVER FOR THE 7.330 UH, ACRE SITE.
IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE.
PATRICK CHRISTENSEN, THREE 10 SOUTH ST.
UM, YOU MIGHT REMEMBER THIS CASE, WE HAD TO POSTPONE IT A WHILE BACK.
UM, REALLY IT'S BEEN AN ISSUE OF THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AS A, AS A REGISTERED H O A AND TRYING TO GET AHOLD OF SOMEBODY WHO WILL LET ME TALK TO THEM.
SO I DID SPEAK TO A POLICE DETECTIVE THAT LIVES IMMEDIATELY SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY.
CLEARLY THE CLOSEST TO THE SITE, HE'S OKAY WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING.
THE CONFUSION IS THEY SEE MULTIFAMILY, THEY ASSUME WE'RE GONNA BUILD A GIANT THREE STORY APARTMENT COMPLEX.
WE ASKED FROM F 18 'CAUSE WE'RE JUST TRYING TO DO TOWN HOMES.
UM, 101 UNITS ON SEVEN ACRES, THAT'S JUST OVER FOUR 14 UNITS PER ACRE.
THE OTHER COMPLICATING FACTOR WITH THIS SITE, DO WE HAVE A POINT, IS IT'S OKAY.
UM, THIS STREET IS ON THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLANE AND HAS TO CUT THROUGH.
SO, SO MY CLIENT WILL HAVE TO BUILD A, A LARGE CITY STREET THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE PROPERTY.
AND SO THAT, FOR THAT IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, IN IN THEIR THEIR WORDS, YOU KNOW, DOING ANOTHER SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION IS JUST GONNA BE VERY DIFFICULT TO MAKE THE NUMBERS WORK.
SO THEY, THEY THINK WITH THE TOWN HOME DENSITY, THEY CAN MAKE THAT WORK AND BUILD THE STREET.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU, ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AND I'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH TRYING TO GET AHOLD OF EVERYBODY I CAN BEFORE I GO TO COUNCIL.
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? WE DO HAVE A VOICEMAIL.
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THIS IS MARSHA BARRIENTOS, 8 0 0 3 ROCKWELL VISTA, SAN ANTONIO IN RIVER MIST.NOTICE OF ZONING COMMISSION IS FOR, UH, REQUEST FOR CHANGE IN ZONING 1 2 5 0 5 WALLER ROAD.
CASE NUMBER Z 2 0 22 DASH 1 0 7 0 0 1 5 1 E R Z D.
THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE IS THAT THERE WILL BE EXCESSIVE TRAFFIC ADDED TO WALLERS ROAD AND ALSO, UH, CAL SEAL AS THE, UH, NEW PERSONS MOVING IN WILL BE GOING THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS TO GET TORU.
SO THOSE ROADS NEED TO BE READILY ACCESSIBLE.
THERE'S NO OTHER WAY TO GO THROUGH TO GET TORU.
THE BUILDINGS WILL BE HIGH RISE.
SO THEY WILL BE OVERLOOKING OUR HOMES, OUR YARDS, AND OUR WINDOWS BOAT.
THIS LAND IS NOT CLOSE 1604 OR HOUSING AS OUR OTHER APARTMENTS.
THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS TO GET THERE.
THESE ARE HOMES SURROUNDED BY FAMILY OWNED HOMES AND FOR THE FAMILY.
THEY'RE VERY NICE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THEY CHOSE TO LIVE IN A FAMILY COMMUNITY.
DO WE HAVE ANY CITIZENS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? WE DO NOT.
THIS IS A DISTRICT EIGHT CASE, SO COMMISSIONER ORTIZ TO YOU.
UM, I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, MR. CHRISTENSEN.
I WANTED TO SEE IF, IF YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION I JUST KINDA REFRESH MY MEMORY FROM THE LAST TIME AS FAR AS SITE PLAN OR SOMETHING, JUST SHOWING THAT INFORMATION.
YEAH, LET SEE THAT REAL QUICK.
I DO, WE HAVE AN UPDATED SITE PLAN.
YEAH, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE LIMITATING FACTORS.
WE'RE LIMITED TO 50% IMPERVIOUS COVER.
WE HAVE TO HAVE THE ROAD THROUGH.
SO, AND I APOLOGIZE I DIDN'T BRING A P OH NO, YOU'RE GOOD.
THAT'S KIND OF, SO YOU CAN SEE THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE GOING THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE PROPERTY.
IT'S, IF YOU CAN KIND OF TURN IT LIKE ONE WAY THAT YEAH.
BUT THAT'S BASICALLY, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF WATER QUALITY PONDS, THE CLUBHOUSE AND THEN SORT OF UNITS AND THE, THE LITTLE EMPTY SQUARES IN FRONT OF THE UNITS ARE PARKING SPACE DRIVEWAYS.
AND I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.
I'LL GO AHEAD AND LEAVE IT TO MY COMMISSIONERS FOR ANY QUESTIONS THEY MAY HAVE.
ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
UM, ONE OF THE, THE VOICEMAIL, UH, HAD A CONCERN OVER, OVER THE HEIGHT.
CAN YOU ADDRESS HOW TALL THESE ARE GONNA BE? YEAH, WE'RE PROPOSING THREE STORY TOWN HOMES, UM, WITH THE GARAGE BELOW AND THE TWO STORIES ABOVE THAT.
AND WE, I, I PROMISED THE, UH, DETECTIVE TO THE SOUTH THAT WE WOULD PUT A 30 FOOT TREE SAVE BUFFER THERE, WHICH WE CAN DO.
'CAUSE LIKE I SAID, WE'RE LIMITED TO 50% IMPERVIOUS COVER.
WE CAN CERTAINLY DO SOME OTHER BUFFERS AND, AND I'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH WHOEVER WILL TALK TO ME.
SO BACK TO YOU COMMISSIONER ORTIZ FOR A MOTION.
UM, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND SUPPORT THE MOTION WITH AND THE RECOMMENDATION FROM SAS AND THE CITY AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND, UH, SUPPORT THIS AS AN APPROVAL OF THIS ZONING CASE.
MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER TWO BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARROS.
UH, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER'S ON MY LEFT.
IF WE COULD MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
UH, NAME AGAIN IS KELLY SANDERS, PLANNING COORDINATOR WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
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AT 1 0 8 AND ONE 12 REMOUNT DRIVE GOING FROM C THREE NA AND R SIX TO I ONE WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.THERE WERE 20 NOTICES SENT OUT.
WE'VE RECEIVED SIX IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED.
AND THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OUTSIDE 200 FEET.
WE HAVE RECEIVED FOUR IN FAVOR.
THE EXISTING C THREE NA GENERAL COMMERCIAL NOW NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE AREA, BUT THE EXISTING R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT DOES NOT SEEM, UM, AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THERE IS A MIX OF ZONING DESIGNATIONS, WHICH INCLUDES RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICTS.
SO TO ALIGN WITH THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSED USE OF LONG-TERM STORAGE AND PARKING, UM, STAFF RECOMMENDS THE ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF L LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.
THIS WILL ACCOMPLISH THE APPLICANT'S GOALS FOR THE PROPERTY, BUT WILL ALSO LIMIT THE HIGHER INTENSE USES, UH, ALLOWED BY I ONE GENERAL INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THIS ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
PER THE ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION, THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
AGAIN, STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL WITH AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF L LIGHT INDUSTRI INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT AND THE APPLICANT, I BELIEVE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
MR. HENRY CON, ANA, SORRY IF I SAID YOUR NAME WRONG.
ANYBODY? IS ANYBODY HERE ON THE APPLICATION FOR REMOUNT? I GUESS THEY ARE NOT HERE, SO.
WITH, I GUESS WE DON'T NEED THEM TO ACCEPT AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION IF, IF THAT'S WHAT'S MADE CORRECT.
ARE YOU WAITING FOR CONFIRMATION THAT THAT'S CORRECT.
YOU CAN CONSIDER IT OR NOT CONSIDER IT OR, OKAY.
COMMISSIONER WATSON, THIS IS YOUR DISTRICT.
WELL I WOULD'VE APPRECIATED IF THE APPLICANT WAS HERE, UM, TO CONFIRM IF THERE WAS A REASON WHY THEY SPECIFICALLY REQUESTED THE I ONE, UM, FROM OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
UM, WHICH I WOULD LIKE TO COMMEND THEM FOR GETTING SIGNATURES AND DOING.
UM, WE KNOW THAT THE COMMUNITY DOES NOT HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THE PROPOSED PROJECT, BUT AS WE HAVE SEEN IN PREVIOUS CASES IN DISTRICT TWO, IF THERE IS NO REASON NOT TO DOWN ZONE TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL FOR BETTER COMPATIBILITY LONG TERM, I WOULD LIKE TO ACCEPT STAFF'S, UM, ALTERNATIVE RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO WITH THAT, I WILL MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF STAFF'S ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF REZONING TWO L IF THAT IS PERMISSIBLE.
UM, BEFORE WE GET TO THAT, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE REMINDED ME THAT I FORGOT TO ASK IF WE HAD ANY PUBLIC COMMENT.
A MOTION WAS MADE FOR, UH, APPROVAL OF THE ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF L BY COMMISSIONER WATSON.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BUSTA MONTE.
IF WE COULD MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 11.
ELIZABETH STEWART ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER 11 IS LOCATED AT 8 4 9 1 8 LINCOLN GOING FROM C ONE AND C THREE AND A TO C THREE CD FOR OVERSIZED VEHICLE SALES, SERVICE AND STORAGE WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
THERE WERE SEVEN NOTICES MAILED ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, TWO OPPOSED WITHIN 200 FEET.
ALAMO FARM STUDS BABCOCK ROAD NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN OPPOSITION.
OAKLAND ESTATES NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN OPPOSITION FROM OUTSIDE 200 FEET AND 38 WERE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION OUTSIDE 200 FEET.
THE EXISTING C ONE LIGHT COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE AREA AS WELL AS THE C THREE N, A GENERAL COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT.
THE C ONE LIGHT INDU, UM, LIGHT COMMERCIAL ZONED AREA TO THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY PROVIDES A BUILT-IN BUFFER TO THE ABUTTING RE RURAL ESTATE AND MF 33 MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT.
THE REQUESTED C THREE CD GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR OVERSIZED VEHICLE SALES, SERVICE AND STORAGE IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA DUE TO ITS HIGH INTENSITY NATURE.
THIS IS A USE TYPICALLY AR ALLOWED BY WRIGHT IN THE L LIGHT INDUSTRIAL OR I ONE GENERAL INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICTS BY WRIGHT.
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AMENDING THE REQUEST TO C TWO CD COMMERCIAL WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR OVERSIZED VEHICLE SALES, SERVICE AND STORAGE IS AN OPTION FOR THE APPLICANT.STAFF WOULD STILL NOT RECOMMEND APPROVAL DUE TO THE INTENSITY OF THE USE AND THE EXISTING REPORTED NUISANCES.
IF THE REQUEST IS AMENDED, A PLAN AMENDMENT TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL WILL ALSO BE REQUIRED.
STAFF FINDS LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACT, FINDS EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
THE PROPOSED USE IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL STAFF IS, UM, AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT AND WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST A CONTINUANCE.
ALRIGHT, IF WE CAN HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE.
UH, MY NAME IS UH, CORNELL RON MANGUM.
UH, ADDRESS IS 84 91 A LINCOLN.
I'M JUST ASKING FOR A CONTINUANCE SO I CAN HAVE BETTER REPRESENTATION.
UM, YOU WANNA JUST GIVE US A BRIEF DESCRIPTION THOUGH OF WHAT YOU'RE SEEKING THOUGH RIGHT NOW? YES SIR.
UM, I'M ASKING FOR A CONDITIONAL USE, UH, TO STORE 18 WHEELERS, UM, AT THE REAR END OF THE PROPERTY, UH, WHICH IS C THREE RIGHT NOW.
SO JUST A CONDITIONAL USE, UH, FOR PARKING.
UH, WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE QUESTIONS.
UH, STAFF, DO WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? YES, WE DO.
WE HAVE, UH, PEOPLE WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK AND THEN WE ALSO DO HAVE VOICEMAILS.
ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HAVE THE VOICEMAILS FIRST, I GUESS.
CALLING ABOUT THE, HI, MY NAME IS JENNIFER LARIS.
I LIVE AT 85 0 8 BARON STREET, NUMBER THREE.
MY PHONE NUMBER IS (619) 755-9119.
I'M CALLING ABOUT THE, UH, CASE NUMBER Z 2 0 2 3 1 0 7 0 0 0 1 8 AT THE ADDRESS.
I'M OPPOSED TO THE REZONING FOR THIS PROPERTY.
I WAS HOSPITALIZED FOR 13 DAYS THIS YEAR FOR BREATHING PROBLEMS AND THE FUMES FROM THIS PROPERTY THAT IT'S MAKING NOW MAKES IT SO I CANNOT ENJOY MY BACKYARD.
I CAN'T ENJOY MY OUTDOOR SPACE BECAUSE OF THE FUMES.
THE NOISE FROM THE TRUCKS VERY EARLY IN THE MORNING ARE VERY BAD.
PLEASE DO NOT ALLOW THIS TO PASS.
IT WILL MAKE LIVING HERE NOT NICE ANYMORE.
HI, MY NAME IS ALISON AMES AND I'M CALLING TO OPPOSE CASE NUMBER Z 2023 DASH 0 7 0 0 1 8 CD.
MY NUMBER IS TWO TEN NINE ONE TWO EIGHT NINE NINE EIGHT.
MY FAMILY AND I LIVE AT 8 4 6 4 BARON STREET AND WE SHARE A FENCE WITH 8 4 9 1 A LINCOLN.
UH, WE MOVED FROM DALLAS TO SAN ANTONIO IN SEPTEMBER OF 2022 AND WE WERE SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROPERTY AND THE TREES AND THE SPACE THAT MY KIDS WOULD HAVE TO RUN AROUND AND PLAY OUTSIDE, WHICH WAS VERY DIFFERENT THAN ALL OF OUR HOMES IN DALLAS.
ALL OF THE HOUSES ON OUR STREET HAVE ACREAGE, AND SO IT FEELS LIKE A QUIET, PEACEFUL AREA IN THE MIDDLE OF A VERY BUSY CITY.
BACK IN NOVEMBER, OUR NEIGHBORS BROUGHT IN BULLDOZERS.
AN EXCAVATOR IS A KNOCK DOWN MOST OF THE TREES IN THEIR PROPERTY.
THEY HAD BURN PILES GOING, AND THAT SMOKE WOULD AFFECT MY KIDS AND THE NEIGHBOR'S KIDS BEING ABLE TO PLAY OUTSIDE IN, IN OUR OWN BACKYARDS.
WE CALLED 9 1 1 A COUPLE TIMES BECAUSE IT APPEARED THAT THE FIRES WERE GETTING TOO LARGE TO MANAGE.
THEY WOULD WORK FROM EARLY HOURS OF THE DAY UNTIL ABOUT EIGHT 30 AT NIGHT.
WE HOPED MAYBE THE NOISE WOULD STOP AFTER A WEEK OR TWO, BUT SHORTLY AFTER THEY CLEARED, CLEARED THEIR PROPERTY, THEY BEGAN STORING 18 WHEELERS AND OTHER LARGE CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES.
OUR HOUSE IS 20 TO 30 FEET FROM 20 PLUS 18 WHEELERS THAT OPERATE ANYWHERE FROM FOUR 30 OR 5:00 AM UNTIL EIGHT 30 OR 9:00 PM I HAVE TWO SMALL CHILDREN WHO ARE OFTEN AWAKENED IN THE EARLY MORNING BY THE NOISES THESE TRUCKS MAKE AS WELL AS HAVE A HARD TIME GOING TO SLEEP AT NIGHT WHEN TRUCKS COME AND GO AFTER THEIR BEDTIME.
THIS SMELL OF DIESEL FUEL IS STRONG IN OUR BACKYARD AS WELL AS INSIDE OUR HOUSE.
I'VE TAKEN MULTIPLE PHOTOS AS WELL AS VIDEOS OF THESE TRUCKS OPERATING AT 5:20 AM
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IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD DURING THE WEEK AND ON THE WEEKENDS.I ALSO HAVE VIDEO, VIDEO FOOTAGE OF THE TRUCKS DOING MAINTENANCE IN THE YARD ON THE WEEKENDS.
I KNOW THAT THE PLANNING COMMITTEE HAS VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO DENY THIS REQUEST, BUT I BEG YOU TO DO THE SAME.
GIVE MY KIDS THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE CHILDHOOD.
I PROMISED THEM WITH THE ABILITY TO RUN, JUMP AND PLAN THE BACKYARD WITHOUT ANY SAFETY CONCERNS ABOUT THE AIR THEY'RE BREATHING, BEING POLLUTED WITH THE OIL AND THE GAS FROM THESE 18 WHEELERS.
GIVE MY HUSBAND AND I THE OPPORTUNITY TO SLEEP PAST FIVE 30 ON A SATURDAY MORNING BECAUSE OUR NEIGHBORS ARE GOING TO WORK AND WAKE UP OUR WHOLE HOUSEHOLD.
WE STRONGLY, STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS REZONE AND HOPE THAT YOU DO TOO.
YES, MY NAME IS LB BATISTA, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY 85 0 8 BARRON STREET, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS.
UH, MY PHONE NUMBER IS (619) 890-4155.
I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO CASE, UH, NUMBER Z AS IN ZEBRA, 20 20 23 1 0 7 0 0 1 8.
DB UH, THE PROPERTY LOCATED 84 91 A LINCOLN.
UH, LIKE I STATED EARLIER, I'M THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED DIRECTLY BEHIND THIS PROPERTY THAT'S BEEN, UH, REQUESTING A REZONING.
UH, I AM WITHIN THE 200 FEET NOW I JUST WANNA MAKE CLEAR THAT I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS REZONING.
I SERVED IN MARINE CORPS FOR 23 YEARS AND PURCHASED THIS HOME AS MY RETIREMENT HOME.
BECAUSE OF THE PEACEFUL, SAFE AREA AND SENSITIVE COMMUNITY, THE REZONING OF THE PROPERTY BEING CONSIDERED WOULD COMPLETELY DESTROY THAT.
UH, THE DIESEL TRUCKS STARTING BETWEEN FIVE AND SIX IN THE MORNING.
UH, DO NOT ALLOW MY KIDS OR MYSELF TO SLEEP ANY ANYTIME PAST THAT.
UH, I DON'T EVEN ALLOW MY CHILDREN AGES TWO AND SIX, VICTORIA AND EMANUEL, UH, TO UH, ACTUALLY PLAY IN THE YARD.
UH, BECAUSE THE TRUCKS ARE PARKED EXTREMELY CLOSE TO THE FENCE, I'M WORRIED ABOUT THEM POTENTIALLY KNOCKING 'EM DOWN.
UH, AND THE DIESEL POLLUTION FUMES IN THE AIR, WHICH IS NOT HEALTHY TO THEIR HEALTH.
THE TRUCKS ARE CONSTANTLY COMING IN AND OUTTA THIS LOT, MAKING IT FEEL INSTEAD OF A HOME, MORE LIKE AN INDUSTRIAL ZONE.
IN SUMMARY, THE REZONING OF THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, THE REGIONAL COMMERCIAL HAS NO BENEFIT TO OUR COMMUNITY AND ONLY US ALL NEGATIVELY.
THIS IS WHY I'M IN FAVOR OF PROPOSED REZONING.
ASK YOU TO CONSIDER, UH, DO NOT CONSIDER REZONING THIS AREA AS IT WILL IMPACT NOT ONLY MY FAMILY, BUT THOSE AROUND US IN OUR COMMUNITY AS A HOME.
RESPECTFULLY,
I GOT CUT OFF ON MY LAST MESSAGE.
UM, I'M CALLING TO OPPOSE CASE NUMBER ZERO ONE EIGHT CD.
UH, MY TELEPHONE NUMBER AGAIN IS (214) 842-3998.
MY FAMILY AND I LIVE AT 8 4 64 BARON STREET, WHICH IS LOCATED DIRECTLY BEHIND THE PROPERTY THAT IS APPLIED FOR THE REZONE.
AND NOW IN THE AUDIENCE WE HAVE RANDOLPH GL GLICKMAN.
MR. GLICKMAN, IF YOU COULD, UH, GIVE US NAME, ADDRESS PLEASE.
UH, MY NAME IS RANDOLPH GLICKMAN.
MY WIFE AND I RESIDE AT 84 25 ROCHELLE ROAD, WHICH IS, UH, TWO STREETS AND A VERY SHORT DIRECT LINE FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
I'M ALSO A BOARD MEMBER OF THE ALI ALAMO, THAT'S BABCOCK ROAD NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
UM, I WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE FOR THE PROPERTY AT 84 91 8 LINCOLN ROAD.
UH, IS THERE A POINTER, UH, I COULD USE? NO, THANK YOU.
SO THE, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS SHOWN HERE, AND, UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS, UH, THIS PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY A LOT OF LOW DENSITY, UH, MAINLY RESIDENTIAL ESTATE HOUSING.
IT'S ALSO PRETTY CLOSE TO THE LEON, UH, CREEK, UH, GREENWAY HERE, THE PARK AND OTHER OPEN SPACE.
AND SO, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, FROM SOME OF THE VOICEMAILS, THE INTENDED USE OF THIS PROPERTY IS REALLY INCONSISTENT WITH THE, THE GENERAL PROPERTY.
AND SO I'M GONNA SHOW YOU SOME PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE PROPERTY SO YOU CAN GET AN IDEA OF WHAT PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT.
THIS IS A VIEW OF THE PROPERTY FROM A LINCOLN AND LOOKING DOWN THE DRIVEWAY.
AND YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A LOT OF CLEARED LAND HERE.
IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, NOT EXACTLY A RESIDENTIAL DRIVEWAY AND YOU CAN SORT OF MAKE OUT IN THE BACK.
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THERE ARE, UH, COMMERCIAL VEHICLES THERE.AND OVERALL THE GENERAL APPEARANCE OF THIS PROPERTY IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE, UH, SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO WE, WE HAVE SOME CLOSER SHOTS, UH, TELEPHOTO SHOTS, AND HERE YOU CAN SEE WHAT'S IN THE BACK OF THIS PROPERTY.
A LOT OF LARGE, UH, COMMERCIAL TRUCKS, HEAVY DUTY TRUCKS, 18 WHEELERS.
I I AM NOT A TRUCK EXPERT, SO I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE, BUT THEY SHOULDN'T BE IN, BE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD
AND THEN AS WE, AS WE LOOK FURTHER BACK IN THE LOT, WE CAN SEE, UH, THE PLAINLY, UM, THE, UH, THE, THE, THE, THE LARGE TRUCKS PARKED HERE, AS WELL AS VARIOUS INDUSTRIAL LOOKING EQUIPMENT AND, UH, NOT THE, NOT THE SORT OF STUFF THAT YOU WOULD EXPECT TO SEE IN A RESIDENTIAL, UH, AREA SUCH AS OURS.
SO I'LL SHOW YOU TWO MORE VIEWS OF THE, UH, THE REAR AREA.
SO IN THIS SHOT WE CAN SEE LARGE TRUCKS AND ALL THIS, UH, HEAVY DUTY INDUSTRIAL EQUIPMENT, UH, STORED HERE.
AS WELL AS, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE INDUSTRIAL MATERIAL STEEL CONSTRUCTION.
I, I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT IT IS, BUT STORED HERE IN A RATHER UNSIGHTLY MANNER, UH, AND ON THE PROPERTY.
SO, AS YOU'VE HEARD, UH, NEIGHBORS HAVE EXPRESSED THEIR OPPOSITION.
UH, THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE AREA.
AND THIS IS BARRON ROAD AND A NUMBER OF THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE RIGHT BEHIND THE PROPERTY, UH, FROM THE STREET OF COMPLAINTS.
SO THAT'S, THAT SHOWS YOU HOW CLOSE THEY ARE.
AND IN FACT, WE LIVE ON ROCHELLE ROAD.
THIS IS, THIS IS OUR ROAD HERE.
SO ALL, WE'RE NOT PERSONALLY IMPACTED BY THE DUST.
WE DO HEAR THE NOISE ON OCCASION, SO IT, IT, IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT'S NOT REALLY CONSISTENT WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, THESE ARE THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY.
AND THE RED XS SHOW THEIR OPPOSITION.
AND, UM, UH, THERE'S GENERALLY CONSENSUS THAT THE, THIS, UH, VARIANCE OF ESPECIALLY THE CONDITIONAL USE, IF IT'S APPROVED, UM, WOULD NOT BE CONSISTENT WITH THE AREA, WHICH IS MAINLY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES HERE.
AND THEN THERE ARE SOME MULTI-FAMILY HOMES, HOUSING ALONG ECKERT, BUT THAT'S, THOSE ARE ALL CONSISTENT WITH THE COMMUNITY PLAN.
FINALLY, UM, THE BEARER COUNTY, UM, UH, APPRAISAL DISTRICT HAS ASSESSED THE PONDING NATURE OF THIS PROPERTY ALONG WITH THE, UM, AND WE WE'RE CONCERNED THAT THIS, ALONG WITH THE IMPROPER AND INCOMPLETE PAVING OF THE PARKING AREA WILL COMPLETE, UH, WILL CONTRIBUTE ADDITIONAL PROBLEMS BEYOND THE EXCESS NOISE AND DUST, SUCH AS INCREASED ROADWAY WEAR DUE TO THE HEAVY TRUCK TRAFFIC.
I MEAN, THESE ROADS AROUND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ARE NOT ANYWAY, SUPER REINFORCED HIGHWAYS.
THEY ARE VERY SIMPLY ALMOST SEMI-RURAL ROADS.
SO THEY'RE NOT GONNA STAND UP TO THIS KIND OF TR TRUCK TRAFFIC VERY LONG.
AS WELL AS, UH, CONCERNS OVER POTENTIAL RUNOFF THAT MIGHT CONTAIN, UH, FUEL TOXIC WASTES, OTHER MATERIALS THAT CAN CONTAMINATE THE MANY WELLS THAT MANY NEIGHBORS IN THE AREA DEPEND ON FOR DOMESTIC WATER.
AND OUR HOUSE, WE, OUR WATER COMES FROM A WELL AS WELL.
UM, THE LAND USAGE IN THIS AREA HAS BEEN GUIDED FOR MANY YEARS BY THE HEDON OR LEON CREEK COMMUNITY PLAN, WHICH WAS DEVELOPED AS OUTLINED IN THIS SLIDE, UH, BY COLLABORATION OF LOCAL RESIDENTS, NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS, LOCAL BUSINESSES, DEVELOPERS, AS WELL AS THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
AND THE PLAN HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN THE PAST.
THE PLAN ITSELF INCORPORATES PRINCIPLES INTENDED TO GUIDE DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL MAINTAIN THE CHARACTER OF THE INCLUDED NEIGHBORHOODS WHILE ALLOWING FOR APPROPRIATE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH AT THE OUTER EDGES OF THE COMMUNITIES, AS WELL AS ALONG THE MAJOR THOROUGH AFFAIRS.
HOWEVER, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS CLEARLY NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE PLAN AND IF APPROVED WOULD PERMIT MORE INTENSE USAGE THAN THE PLAN HAD, UH, ALLOWED OR CONCEIVED OF.
TO CONCLUDE MY STATEMENTS, I WOULD SAY, BASED ON THESE CONSIDERATIONS, THE ALAMO FARMS BABCOCK ROAD NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION EXPRESSES ITS STRONG OPPOSITION TO THIS PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE AND CONDITIONAL USE ALLOWANCE AND URGES THE ZONING COMMISSION TO DENY THE APPLICATION.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS OUR, OUR POSITION.
DO WE HAVE ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS SIGNED UP? YES, UH, WE HAVE MR. PHILA AND THEN TO BE, UH, I'LL GIVE MY TIME TO MR.
SO, UM, I HAVE ACTUALLY, UH, MR. STEVEN BECKER TO BE FOLLOWED BY MS. JOANNE BECKER.
CAN, I'M ACTUALLY GONNA GIVE MY TIME TO HIM.
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YOU HAVE SIX MINUTES.CAN I, UH, CAN YOU PLAY THIS? OH, OKAY.
MY NAME IS STEVEN BECKER AND I, UH, OWN THE PROPERTY AT 8 4 6 4 BARRON, AND WE BEAR THE BRUNT OF THE, UH, ISSUES THAT YOU'VE HEARD FROM NUMEROUS, UH, SPEAKERS.
BUT I'D LIKE TO PLAY THIS, UH, THUMB DRIVE SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY GET A FEEL FOR WHAT WE, WHAT WE GO THROUGH EVERY DAY.
SO IT IS FIVE 20 IN THE MORNING.
IT'S ABOUT 5 45 ON FRIDAY MORNING.
THIS TRUCK JUST WOKE MY SON UP.
HE CAME INTO A ROOM JUST A MINUTE AGO.
YOU CAN HEAR THIS FROM INSIDE OUR HOUSE.
THERE'S ANOTHER ONE GOING AT 6 55.
SO, UH, THIS NIGHTMARE STARTED BACK IN NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR WHEN, UH, THEY STARTED TO CLEAR THE PROPERTY FROM SEVEN IN THE MORNING TILL ABOUT EIGHT 30 AT NIGHT.
AND THIS WENT ON FOR TWO WEEKS.
AND THEN THE TRA TRACTORS AND THE TRAILERS AND THE, UH, VEHICLES THAT YOU'VE SEEN STARTED THERE.
THEY BURNED THE, THEY BURNED THE TREES WHEN THEY WERE CLEARING THE PROPERTY.
WE HAD TO CALL 9 1 1 A FEW TIMES, GET THE POLICE OUT THERE OR THE FIRE BECAUSE THE, UH, FLAMES AND, AND THE SMOKE CAME ON OUR PROPERTY.
AND THEN, UH, IT'S, IT'S CONTINUED.
WE CALL CODE COMPLIANCE HAS BEEN OUT THERE FOUR OR FIVE TIMES, TOLD 'EM TO STOP.
CITED THEM, YOU KNOW, HE CONTINUES TO RUN THE BUSINESS, WHICH I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
LAST COUPLE WEEKS AGO WE WENT TO PLANNING AND, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY TURNED HIM DOWN.
HE'S STILL RUNNING THE BUSINESS.
I JUST, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT IF SOMEONE IN AUTHORITY TELLS YOU THAT YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING INCORRECTLY OR YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING WHICH VIOLATES THE, THE, THE CODE OR THE ZONING ISSUES, I WOULD STOP.
I WOULDN'T START THE BUSINESS UNLESS I HAD THE PROPER ZONING.
AND I, AND WHAT I PROPOSED TO Y'ALL IS IF YOU HAD TO LISTEN TO THAT FOR THE PAST FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS AT YOUR, AT YOUR RESIDENCE, YOU'D PROBABLY BE PRETTY ANNOYED ABOUT IT.
SO I DON'T, I, I PERSONALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S CONTINUING AND I DON'T KNOW WHY SOMEONE DOESN'T STOP HIM FROM, FROM THIS.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE VIDEOS, YOU CAN HEAR IT.
IT'S JUST, IT'S A TRAVESTY REALLY.
AND FROM MY, MY DAUGHTER AND MY GRANDKIDS HAVE TO LISTEN TO THAT.
CAN'T GO OUTSIDE 'CAUSE OF THE POLLUTION, 'CAUSE OF THE SMOKE, 'CAUSE OF THE NOISE, 'CAUSE OF THE BEEP BEEP BEEPING 'CAUSE OF THE, THE, THE MAINTENANCE THAT THEY, THAT THEY DO.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST, IT'S, IT'S UNCONSCIONABLE IS WHAT IT IS.
AND WHY WE DON'T STOP IT IS BEYOND ME.
BUT AT SOME POINT, HOPEFULLY WE WILL.
IN THE MEANTIME, WE'LL JUST, UH, LEAVE IT UP TO Y'ALL TO, UH, MAKE A DECISION.
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YOU FOR YOUR TIME.AND, AND THEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST, MR. PERON, UM, HE HAS ALSO MR. UM, MANUS MANA, TAME TIME MANNA.
HI, MY NAME IS MARIUS PERON, P E R R O N, AND I'M AT 8 5 5 5 ABE LINCOLN.
UM, I'VE LIVED IN SAN ANTONIO ALL MY LIFE AND I'VE MADE MY LIVING, UH, UH, PRODUCING MUSIC, RECORDING IT AND LEARNED HOW TO DO THAT VERY WELL.
AND SO IN 1978, I STARTED A SCHOOL THAT TEACHES HOW TO DO THAT.
YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GO TO A CONCERT, YOU SEE A GUY IN THE BACK RUNNING THE MIXING BOARD OR A CHURCH IF THEY HAVE A SERVICE.
SO I, I CALLED THE SCHOOL, THE AUDIO ENGINEERING INSTITUTE, AND I'VE NEVER HAD MY OWN PLACE UNTIL 2018 WHEN I FOUND THE PROPERTY ON ABE LINCOLN.
AND IT'S DIRECTLY NORTH OF THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION HERE IT WAS ZONED OH TWO, IT IS ZONED OH TWO.
AND THAT'S VERY LIGHT COMMERCIAL.
AND I CHOSE THAT PLACE BECAUSE A BUSINESS LIKE MINE DOESN'T NEED HIGH TRAFFIC.
I DON'T WANT PEOPLE COMING NEAR MY PLACE.
AND SO, UM, BUT NOW WITH THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT, THERE'S JUST A LOT MORE NOISE IN THE AREA AND THAT'S JUST NOT GONNA BE A GOOD THING FOR WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO.
IF I'M TRYING TO SET UP MICROPHONES AND SHOW THE STUDENTS, OKAY, LET'S RECORD THIS GUITAR.
AND THERE'S NOISE LEAKING IN THE BUILDING.
SO I'M OPPOSED TO THE REZONING.
ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? THERE IS NO MORE FOR THIS CASE.
ALRIGHT, UM, MR. MANGUM, YOU HAVE A, SOME TIME IF YOU WOULD LIKE IT FOR A REBUTTAL TO THE, TO WHAT YOU'VE HEARD.
UM, THIS IS A GROSS EXAGGERATION.
I'M SURE YOU GUYS SITTING ON THE BOARD HAVE SEEN BEFORE, UM, THE TIME IN QUESTION.
UM, IF ANYTHING, THEY'RE CHANGING TIRES OR WHATNOT ON THE, YOU KNOW, ON THEIR TRUCKS.
UH, WE COME, WE GO, THERE IS NO AIR BRAKE NOISE.
UM, THE, THE PARKING COMING AND GOING, UH, IS ROUGHLY, UH, FIVE 30 TO SIX 30 IN THE MORNING.
UM, IT'S RARE THAT THEY'RE EVER THERE AT, UH, AFTER HOURS AS FAR AS PAST 5 36 O'CLOCK, UH, AT NIGHT.
SO THERE, I MEAN, THE BEDTIMES, UM, THAT'S JUST NOT TRUE, JUST FLAT OUT LIE.
UM, THE BUSINESS IN, IN QUESTION, UH, THAT I RUN AS A CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, WHICH IS ABOUT 400 FEET AWAY, UH, AS FAR AS THE MACHINERY GOES, UH, IN THE BACK WHERE IT IS ZONED C THREE AT IT'S STRICTLY PARKING.
UH, THERE'S 20 FEET, 15 TO 20 FEET OF TREES IN BETWEEN, UM, THE, THE MULTIFAMILY UNIT AND THE 18 WHEELERS.
UH, NOW ALL THE WAY UP ABE LINCOLN, IT IS ZONED COMMERCIAL BASICALLY ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET.
UH, THERE ARE SOME CHURCHES, UM, THERE'S SOME ADULT DAYCARES.
UM, SO WITHIN ONE MILE, I'M NOT EVEN SPEAKING ABOUT SOUTH, LIKE IMMEDIATELY SOUTH, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, GAS STATIONS, UH, A LOT OF BUSINESSES, A HIGH SCHOOL WITHIN ABOUT 800 TO A THOUSAND FEET OF THIS PROPERTY.
THIS PROPERTY IS ON THE CORNER OF ECKARD AND ABE LINCOLN.
SO IT IS LITERALLY THE SECOND.
UM, THERE'S A DENTIST'S OFFICE.
SO COMING OFF OF ECKERD, THERE IS A, UH, A, A DENTIST'S OFFICE.
UM, AND THEN IT IS THE BARBERSHOP, UH, WHICH IS MY BUSINESS.
SO GOING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE IS NO, IT'S, IT'S IMMEDIATELY OFF OF, UH, OF ECKERD.
I'M SORRY FOR REPEATING MYSELF.
UM, SO GOING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THIS IS NOT A NORMAL REG REGULAR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, YOU CAN LOOK AT THE MAP AND YOU CAN SEE, UH, THAT THERE IS MULTIPLE BUSINESSES.
UH, RIGHT NEXT TO MY, UH, RIGHT NEXT TO MINE, THIS GENTLEMAN BEHIND WITH THE MUSIC STUDIO, THERE'S A 400 FOOT TOWER, A CELL PHONE TOWER, WHICH IS 40 FEET FROM MY
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PROPERTY DOWN THE STREETS, AN ABANDONED RADIO STATION, WHICH IS, I DON'T KNOW, 20, 30 ACRES.UM, SO WHEN YOU DRIVE THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU SEE IT'S NOT BY FAR A REGULAR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, LIKE I SAID, YOU GO UP, ALL OF THESE HOUSES ARE THREE ACRES.
TWO, UM, TWO AND A HALF PLUS ACRES GOING UP AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE PICTURES.
THAT, THAT'S, UH, YOUR TIME FOR RIGHT NOW.
WE'LL, WE'LL QUESTIONS, UM, THIS IS A DISTRICT SEVEN CASE, SO IT IS TO ME FOR QUESTIONS.
UH, THE FIRST QUESTION I HAVE IS, UM, FOR STAFF, UM, ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS MENTIONED THAT CODE COMPLIANCE HAS BEEN CALLED.
UM, IS THERE A WAY TO VERIFY THAT THERE WAS YES SIR.
WE HAVE A CODE OFFICER AVAILABLE.
IF YOU COULD, IF YOU COULD COME UP TO THE FRONT.
UM, THE QUESTION IS, UH, HA HAVE YOU BEEN CALLED OUT TO THE, TO THE PROPERTY? YES, SIR, I WAS.
UM, UPON INSPECTION, I OBSERVED THE PROPERTY, I RESEARCHED THE ZONE.
UM, I ISSUED NOTICE TO THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, I WENT OUT THERE AGAIN, I DID RECEIVE CALLS FROM CITIZENS.
I WENT OUT THERE AGAIN AND I CITED THE PROPERTY FOR FAILING TO COMPLY WITH THE NOTICE.
UM, THEY'VE GONE TO COURT, UH, THEY'VE BEEN FINED, THEY'VE BEEN GIVEN A CONTINUANCE PERIOD, UH, TO EITHER OBTAIN THEIR ZONING.
IF THEY'RE DENIED, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO JUST, THEY HAVE TO SEIZE THE USE.
BUT YES, WE HAVE BEEN OUT THERE, WE HAVE ISSUED NOTICE AND SI UH, FIND THE PROPERTY OWNER, THE, THE TENANT.
UM, I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
UM, AND, AND THAT IS, UM, WHEN DETERMINING WHAT CATEGORY TO PUT THIS IN, I THINK YOU ARE PUTTING THIS INTO THE UNDER SERVICE, THE MANUFACTURED HOME, OVERSIZED VEHICLE, SALES, SERVICE, OR STORAGE.
UH, JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS THAT AND NOT THE AUTO PARKING ONE.
UM, UH, LET ME SEE IF ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS.
UH, THIS IS A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
HELP ME UNDERSTAND, I'M LOOKING AT THE, UH, MAP THAT WAS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PACKAGE.
IT SHOWS, LOOKS TO BE THREE DIFFERENT PARCELS.
IS THAT RIGHT? I SEE A, UH, ONE SECTION, IT'S LIKE A C ONE, RIGHT? THERE'S A SLIVER IN THE BACK, RIGHT.
THAT'S C ONE THAT WAS LIKELY CREATED THAT WAY INTENTIONALLY, UM, WHEN THIS WAS ZONED SO THAT THERE WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT OF A BUFFER BETWEEN THE EXISTING RE AND MF 33.
A LITTLE TINY ZONING IS, UH, LESSER INTENSE ZONING IS SOMETIMES USED AS A BUFFER TO MORE INTENSE COMMERCIAL OR USES.
AND THEN THERE IS, UH, THE SECOND PIECE, WHICH IS C THREE AND A RIGHT NOW.
UM, AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF WHERE IT SAYS HOUSE OF BARBERS, IT'S C ONE, SO CLOSEST TO THE ROADWAY A BLINKEN IS C ONE, AND THE MIDDLE WOULD BE C THREE AND A.
AND THEN THE LITTLE BUFFER IN THE VERY REAR IS C ONE CURRENTLY.
AND THEN FOR THE GENTLEMAN WHO PLAYED THE VIDEO, UM, I DIDN'T CATCH YOUR ADDRESS.
WHAT WAS THE ADDRESS? 8 4 6 4 BARRON 8 4 6 4 BARRON.
AND HOW FAR AWAY WERE YOU WHEN YOU TOOK THE VIDEO? SIR, COULD YOU COME UP TO THE MIC PLEASE? THANK YOU.
OKAY, SO, UH, THIS IS OUR PROPERTY RIGHT HERE.
THE HOUSE, YOU'LL HAVE TO STAND NEAR THE MICROPHONE SO WE CAN PICK YOU UP.
YEAH, OUR HOUSE IS, UH, THAT'S THE PROPERTY.
AND OUR HOUSE, THE WAY OUR HOUSE IS SAID, WE'RE ON THE NORTHEAST OF THIS PRO, OUR PROPERTY AND HIS PROPERTY IS ON THE SOUTH.
YOU KNOW, YOU, THAT'S THE PROPERTY LINE RIGHT THERE.
SO WE, WE BEAR THE BRUNT OF THE NOISE THAT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, FROM, FROM THE PROPERTY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO HOW FAR AWAY ARE WE? 20 FEET, 30 FEET.
YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR, WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR BACKYARD, OR EXCUSE ME, OUR WINDOW, WE HAVE A SLIDING GLASS, WHICH THE
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PATIO, SOME LAND.YOU LOOK OUT THERE AND YOU SEE ALL THE, THE VEHICLES I, I SHOWED ON THAT VIDEO.
I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE PERSPECTIVES AND THE DISTANCES.
ANY, UH, NO ONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS? ACTUALLY, I'M GONNA ASK A QUESTION.
OH, COMMISSIONER ORTIZ QUESTIONS.
THESE CURRENT ZONINGS THAT ARE ON THIS PROPERTY, C C ONE C THREES, DO THEY ALLOW HIM TO HAVE ANY TYPE OF VEHICLES ON THIS PROPERTY? UH, AND HOW IS HE ALLOWED TO HAVE THE VEHICLES THUS FAR? THE C THREE WILL ALLOW HIM SOME TYPES OF AUTOMOTIVE USES.
WE'RE GONNA GRAB THOSE FOR YOU GUYS RIGHT NOW, BUT THE C ONES WOULD DEFINITELY NOT.
SO WHERE HE'S STORING THESE VEHICLES RIGHT? WHERE THEY'RE CURRENTLY PARKED IN C ONE? YES.
RIGHT IN THE VERY REAR PORTION, PLUS PROBABLY PORTION OF THE C THREE N A.
SO IT'S PRETTY MUCH THE, WHAT IS IT? THE, THE, HOW DID THEY SAY? THE HORSE BEFORE THE CRADLE.
YEAH, THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE, YES.
SO I GUESS THIS CURRENT ZONING HE'S COMING IN TO APPLY FOR WOULD BE TO ALLOW HIM TO PARK THESE VEHICLES IN THIS COM IN THIS PROPERTY.
JUST, UM, JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE, UM, HE COULD BE PERMITTED TO DO LIKE SOME PARKING.
UM, WELL, PARKING AND LONG-TERM STORAGE WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED IN THE C THREE.
UM, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE REZONED TWO INDUSTRIAL.
UM, THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD REALLY BE PERMITTED IN C THREE IS LIKE A COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT, BUT THAT'S FOR, UM, STANDARD SIZE VEHICLES, SMALLER TRUCKS.
UM, AND, UH, MR. MANGA, I KNOW THAT YOU HAD, UH, ASKED FOR A CONTINUANCE.
UM, HOWEVER, I DON'T KNOW IF A CONTINUANCE WOULD, WOULD, WOULD HELP ANY, UM, I'M GOING TO MOTION FOR, FOR DENIAL.
AND ONE OF THE REASONS IS BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH, UM, OVERSIZED VEHICLE SALES SERVICE, ET CETERA, ARE ALLOWED SORT OF BY RIGHT IN, UM, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, IT'S WITH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
IF I AM, IF I'M CORRECT, I GUESS THAT'S, I GUESS BEFORE I MAKE A MOTION, I'M GONNA HAVE TO, IT'S, IT'S ALLOWED BY, RIGHT? IN L WHICH IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND I ONE, YES.
SO IT'S NOT AN S IT IS NOT AN SS, UH, FOR JUST PARKING AND LONG AND STORAGE LONG TERM, BUT LET ME LOOK AT OVERSIZED VEHICLES.
WHAT I, WHAT I, WHAT I SEE IS THAT IT, AND I'M LOOKING AT, UM, YEAH.
UNDER SERVICE MANUFACTURED HOME SLASH OVERSIZED VEHICLE, SALES, SERVICE, OR STORAGE.
THEY WOULD NEED A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION IN L OKAY.
AND SO PART OF MY RATIONALE IS EVEN AN L IT REQUIRES AN SS DESIGNATION, MEANING YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER, UH, THE, THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS TO PRO TO, TO TWO SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
AND SO IT'S BASICALLY, YES, IT'S, UH, IT WOULD BE ALLOWED BY RIGHT IN I, AND SO WE'RE LOOKING TO TAKE SOMETHING THAT'S FROM I OR TO ALLOW SOMETHING IN I ALL THE WAY DOWN PAST DE TO COMMERCIAL ZONING AND, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION LOOKED AT THE, AT THIS UNANIMOUSLY DENIED THE PLAN AMENDMENT.
AND ONE OF THE POINTS THAT WAS MADE WAS THAT THE TYPE OF ROAD THAT ABE LINCOLN IS, UM, IT'S BASICALLY A SUBDIVISION ROAD.
UM, IF THIS WERE, OR, AND IT'S, IT'S NOT CLOSE TO AN INTERSECTION, YOU KNOW, STOPLIGHT INTERSECTION.
UM, IF THIS WERE AT ECKERT AND BANDERA, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS YOU CAN, YOU CAN, YOU CAN MAYBE MAKE A CASE FOR THAT.
BUT IN AS THE ENTRANCE INTO, UM, A NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, I DON'T FEEL THAT IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THIS AREA.
SO I MAKE A MOTION FOR DENIAL.
ALRIGHT, A MOTION FOR DENIAL MADE BY ME.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE.
ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE? BRIEFLY, I DON'T HESITATE TO SECOND THIS MOTION AND SUPPORT IT.
UM, I THINK THERE IS AN EXIGENT CIRCUMSTANCE HERE.
WE'VE HAD CODE COMPLIANCE COME UP, TELL US THEY WERE THERE AND THEY CITED THERE WERE FINES.
UH, WE SEE HEALTH IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS.
UM, SO MR. MANGUM, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU
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WANTED A CONTINUANCE.I DON'T THINK THAT WAS APPROPRIATE.
I'M GLAD THE CHAIR TOOK THIS ACTION TODAY AND THAT'S WHY I SUPPORT THE MOTION.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? UH, COMMISSIONER WATSON, UH, I JUST WANNA CONCUR WITH WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID.
UM, BUT IT IS INCREDIBLY, UM, DETRIMENTAL TO, UH, COMMUNITIES, BOTH ENVIRONMENTAL STANDPOINT AS WELL, THE INFRASTRUCTURE STANDPOINT IN ADDITION TO THE CONCERNS THAT RESIDENTS HAVE ADDRESSED TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S THIS HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USE, THIS CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL.
UM, AND SO I AM ALSO SUPPORTIVE OF, UH, CHAIR SS SIPS, UH, MOTION AND, UM, AM GLAD TO SEE US TAKING ACTION TODAY.
DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER, UH, COMMISSIONER, WE FIRST, UH, MR. CHAIR, I'LL BE SUPPORTING YOUR MOTION.
I DRIVE THROUGH THIS NEIGHBORHOOD QUITE FREQUENTLY AND, UH, THIS BUSINESS DOES NOT FIT IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? SURE, I'M NOT GONNA SAY EVERYTHING EVERYONE ELSE HAS SAID, BUT I HONESTLY DON'T EVEN THINK C THREE IS APPROPRIATE HERE GIVEN THE, THE, THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AND THE USES AROUND THERE.
SO I THINK THAT US PULLING DOWN SOMETHING FROM I ONE INTO, UM, INTO THIS, UH, PROPERTY IS NOT APPROPRIATE.
AND, AND GIVEN THE INTENSITY OF THE USE AND THE DISRUPTION TO THE NEIGHBORS IS JUST NOT APPROPRIATE.
SO I'LL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BUSANTE, ROLL CALL.
UM, NEXT ITEM ON THE LIST IS ITEM NUMBER 12.
MY NAME IS ADOLFO GONZALEZ, UH, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER 12 IS LOCATED AT 2 2 3 5 WEST SOUTH CROSS, GOING FROM RMM FOUR TO I D C THREE WITH USES PERMITTED IN L LIGHT, INDUSTRIAL AND OUTSIDE STORAGE WITHOUT OTHER OVERLAYS STAYING THE SAME.
THERE WERE 15 NOTICES SENT OUT.
AND QUINTANA COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED.
THE EXISTING RM FOUR RESIDENTIAL MIXED DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED I D Z THREE HIGH INTENSITY INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE WITH USES PERMITTED IN L LIGHT, INDUSTRIAL AND OUTSIDE STORAGE IS NOT INAPPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED REZONING REQUEST IS TO PERMIT THE USE OF OUTSIDE STORAGE OF TRUCKS, TRAILERS, AND OTHER HEAVY MACHINERY.
THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN INFORMED THAT THE PROPOSED USES AND THE SUBMITTED SITE PLAN CANNOT BE EXPANDED WITHOUT A MAJOR SITE PLAN AMENDMENT, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE ANOTHER REZONING.
STAFF DOES FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THIS, UH, ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
THE PROPOSED USE IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA FOR THIS SIDE OF THE BLOCK, WHICH IS RESIDENTIAL STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU'D HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE.
I AM THE OWNER AND APPLICANT OF, UH, REZONING ON 2235 WEST SOUTH CROSS.
I AM ALSO THE OWNER OF TWO OTHER ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
UM, THIS PROPERTY ORIGINALLY, UM, WAS PURCHASED ABOUT A YEAR AGO.
IT USED TO BE A HOME, A VACANT HOME.
IT WAS USED FREQUENTLY BY SQUATTERS.
PEOPLE WOULD JUMP THE FENCE TO DO, I DON'T KNOW, DRUGS, STUFF LIKE THAT.
MY BUSINESS ON THE OTHER SIDE IS ON 4 4 2 RETO HIGHWAY.
UM, I THINK THAT IT'S A GOOD, UH, APPRO, UH, NOT APPROVAL.
I, I THINK IT'S A GOOD ZONING CHANGE.
WHY? BECAUSE ALL MY NEIGHBORING, UH, PROPERTIES, UH, ARE ALL RESIDENTIAL, UM, ARE ALL COMMERCIAL.
THERE'S A BIG RECYCLING YARD ON THE LEFT SIDE OF ME, ONE ACROSS THE OTHER, UH, PROPERTIES ARE THE SAME, UM, OWNER AS THEY, THEY BELONG TO THE SAME OWNER AND THEY'RE ALL COMMERCIAL USE.
THEY'RE DOING BODY SHOP WORK, THEY'RE DOING, UH, OUTSIDE STORAGE.
UH, THE FIVE OPPOSING LETTERS THAT Y'ALL RECEIVED WAS FROM THE SAME OWNER, WHICH IS DANIEL HACK, THE OWNER OF T AUTO SALVAGE, IN WHICH I SAID MY YARD IS DOING THE SAME THING AS HIS YARD.
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PROPERTY COMING UP FOR REZONING, WHICH IS GONNA HAPPEN LIKE IN A MONTH OR SO.IF YOU HAVE PICTURES OF IT, YOU CAN PULL 'EM UP.
PEOPLE REVERSE, THEY'LL THROW TRASH.
I PURCHASED THAT AS WELL A MONTH AGO.
SO I SAID WHAT I'M, I'M I'M TRYING TO, UH, GET TO IS THAT IT'S A GOOD, UM, IT'S A GOOD THING THAT I, I PURCHASED THE PROPERTIES.
WHY? BECAUSE THERE'S NO SQUATTERS, THERE'S NO PEOPLE GOING IN THERE DOING DRUGS, STUFF LIKE THAT.
FOR THE USE THAT I NEED 'EM FOR, THE USE THAT I NEED 'EM IS TO STORE MY 18 WHEELER, MY EXCAVATORS, MY THREE TOW TRUCKS.
UM, HOW I SAID IT IS JUST WEIRD THAT THIS GENTLEMAN OPPOSED AGAINST ME.
WHY? BECAUSE I WAS DOING BUSINESS FOR, WITH HIM FOR ABOUT 18, 20 YEARS.
AND WE HAD A, A VERBAL, UH, DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH, DISAGREEMENT ABOUT A MONTH AND A HALF AGO.
SO I SAID I WAS DOING BUSINESS WITH HIM FOR ABOUT 19, 20 YEARS AND ABOUT A MONTH AND A HALF AGO, HE DIDN'T LIKE THE FACT THAT I CAUGHT HIM OUT ON SOMETHING AND NOW HE'S OPPOSED AGAINST ME.
AND I SAID ALL HIS NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD PUT THIS UP, UP, UP IN THERE WITH A, WHAT DO I GIVE IT TO ARE BEING USED FOR THE SAME THING THAT I, THAT I NEEDED FOR, HE'S STORING 18 WHEELERS.
HE'S STORING TRAILERS, HE'S STORING EXCAVATORS.
UH, MY, ALL MY EQUIPMENT, ALL MY MACHINERY, ALL MY TOW TRUCKS, IT'S IN, IT IS IN USED EVERY DAY.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THE ORANGE PIECE ON THE LAREDO, THAT'S WHERE I HAVE THE TWO SMALL PIECES UNDERNEATH ARE THE ONES THAT I'M TRYING TO GET REZONED.
THIS IS HIS PROPERTY, TEXAS AUTO SALVAGE.
IS IT ON? SO THIS IS THE ONE THAT I ORIGINALLY PURCHASED ABOUT THREE AND A HALF YEARS AGO.
LITTLE BY LITTLE I, UM, SAVED UP MONEY.
I BOUGHT THIS HOUSE, I GOT IT DEMOLISHED.
UH, IT WAS A VACANT HOME, HOW I SAID, UH, AND THEN THIS IS ANOTHER PROPERTY THAT I'M GONNA BE GETTING RESOLVED WITHIN A MONTH.
THESE TWO PROPERTIES, MR. HACK WAS TRYING TO OBTAIN 'EM FROM THE LADY FROM, UH, VELIA THOMAS.
FOR SOME REASON SHE DIDN'T SELL TO HIM, SHE SOLD TO ME.
I BOUGHT IT, KNOCKED IT DOWN, I CLEANED THEM UP.
SO ALL MY TOW TRUCKS ARE BEING STORED HERE IN THE MEANWHILE.
AND I SAID, UM, ALL THESE PROPERTIES AROUND HERE, YOU COULD GO 2, 3, 4, 500 METERS AROUND AND EVERYBODY'S RESIDENTIAL.
THIS IS ANOTHER SCRAP YARD HERE.
THIS IS ANOTHER, UH, INDUSTRIAL PARK.
THIS IS A STORE, THIS IS A STORE, THIS IS A, A MACHINE SHOP.
SO THERE IS NO HOMES AROUND THERE.
EVERYBODY AROUND ME IS COMMERCIAL.
THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TRYING TO GET IT APPROVED.
AND, UM, THIS PROPERTY, HE PROBABLY BOUGHT IT MAYBE ABOUT EIGHT MONTHS AGO.
AND IF YOU GO TAKE PICTURES OF IT RIGHT NOW HE HAS ABOUT 10 EXCAVATORS, A TRAILERS SCRAP METAL THROWN THERE.
I DON'T SEE WHAT'S THE, THE BIG HICCUP THAT I CAN'T GET THESE TWO PROPERTIES REZONING INTO A COMMERCIAL.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. GONZALEZ.
UM, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? YES, WE DO HAVE SPEAKERS SIGNED INTO SPEAK.
UM, OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS MS. ELIZABETH RUSSELL FOLLOWED TO BE OR TO BE FOLLOWED BY MS. CINDY TOM MARLIN.
ALRIGHT, MS. RUSSELL, MY NAME IS CINDY CAMERON AND I GIVE MY MINUTES TO MS. ALRIGHT, SO MS. RUSSELL, YOU HAVE SIX MINUTES.
I AM AN ATTORNEY HERE IN SAN ANTONIO AND I'VE BEEN ASKED TO, UM, SPEAK ON BEHALF OF SEVERAL PROPERTY OWNER OWNERS IN THE AREA.
UM, DOUGLAS CARRILLO GONZALEZ, WHO YOU JUST HEARD FROM, UM, IS PRETTY MUCH DOING THE SAME THING AS THE PROPERTY THAT WE, UM, THAT WAS UP FOR APPROVAL RIGHT BEFORE US.
I THINK IT WAS COMMISSIONER WE THAT SAID HE'S PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE.
HE'S ALREADY, UM, USING THE PROPERTY AND THE WAY THAT HE'S PETITIONING TO USE IT.
IF YOU START TO LOOK AT THE PHOTOS ON THE TRANSITION OF THE PROPERTY, YOU SEE THAT, UH, MR. GONZALEZ PURCHASED THE PROPERTY, UM, ABOUT A YEAR AGO.
AND THERE WAS A HOUSE THERE IF YOU COULD PUT THE FIRST PICTURE UP.
AND THERE WAS A HOUSE THERE, NO FENCE.
I'D JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT TO THE LEFT OF THIS HOUSE, THERE IS CURRENTLY STILL
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A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY THERE.SO WHEN MR. GONZALEZ TELLS US THAT THERE'S NO OTHER RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES IN THE AREA, THAT IS UNFORTUNATELY NOT TRUE.
AND THEN IF WE LOOK AT HOW THIS PROPERTY PROGRESSES, THANK YOU MA'AM.
WE SEE THAT A FENCE IS STARTING TO BE BUILT IN THIS PROPERTY.
THERE IS NO PERMIT PULLED FOR A COMMERCIAL FENCE.
THERE WAS A PERMIT PULLED IN 2020, UH, MARCH OF 2020 FOR A RESIDENTIAL FENCE, SIX FOOT WOODEN.
BUT YOU'RE GONNA SEE AS THE PROPERTY PICTURES PROGRESS, A VERY TALL COMMERCIAL FENCE WAS BUILT.
SO NOW WE SEE THAT THAT PROPERTY IS COMPLETELY FENCED IN WHERE THE HOUSE USED TO BE.
NOW THIS IS CONCERNING FOR TWO REASONS.
ONE, WE CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON BEHIND THE FENCE.
AND TWO, AGAIN, THIS WAS NOT A PERMITTED FENCE.
SO MR. GONZALEZ IS ALREADY DOING THINGS THAT ARE IN VIOLATION OF THE CITY ORDINANCES.
THIS IS JUST ANOTHER PICTURE OF THAT FENCE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN PUT IN PLACE.
AND THEN THIS IS A PICTURE FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT FENCE.
THIS GOES FROM MR. GONZALEZ'S ORIGINAL PROPERTY ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO THE PROPERTY HE'S PURCHASED.
I KNOW IT'S A LITTLE BIT HARD TO SEE IN THE PHOTO, BUT THIS ENTIRE PROPERTY HAS ALREADY BEEN PAVED.
THAT'S BECAUSE HE IS ALREADY USING THE PROPERTY AND THE WAY HE'S PETITIONING FOR ACCESS TO USE IT.
AS YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT HE'S USING BEHIND, UM, THE FENCE AND YOU CAN SEE THE ZONING SIGN.
AND I JUST WANTED TO SHOW THE COMMISSIONERS THAT THIS PICTURE WAS TAKEN JUST YESTERDAY, THAT THIS, UM, PROPERTY, THE FENCE IS IN PLACE.
HE'S ALREADY USING THE PROPERTY IN VIOLATION OF THE ORDINANCES.
HE DIDN'T WANNA WAIT FOR PERMISSION, HE JUST WANTED TO USE THEM AND CONTRAVENTION OF THE WAY IN WHICH THE CITY HAS BEEN PLANNED.
AND ORDINANCE, UM, AGAIN, THIS IS JUST THE SAME PHOTO FROM A DIFFERENT ANGLE BECAUSE, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERNS AS TO HOW THIS PROPERTY IS BEING USED IN THE BACK, UM, BEHIND THIS FENCE.
'CAUSE UM, THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT CONTACTED ME THINK IT ACTUALLY MIGHT BE MORE APPROPRIATE FOR MR. GONZALEZ TO BE ASKING FOR AN I TWO DESIGNATION BECAUSE OF THE TYPE OF, UM, COMMERCIAL USE THAT HE'S ALREADY EMPLOYED AND HIS I TWO DESIGNATION.
UM, I I THINK HE ACTUALLY ORIGINALLY PETITIONED FOR THAT, BUT THEN HE DOWNGRADED.
BUT BECAUSE THIS FENCE IS SO HIGH, WE CAN'T SEE EXACTLY HOW HE'S USING THE PROPERTY IN THE PAST.
OH, SORRY, I'M, I'M PRETTY LOUD NORMALLY, SO I TRY NOT TO GET TOO CLOSE TO THE MICROPHONE.
UM, AND THEN THE LAST PHOTO, IT IS HOPEFULLY JUST A BETTER ANGLE WHERE YOU CAN REALLY SEE THAT THIS WHOLE PROPERTY HAS ALREADY BEEN COMPLETELY, UM, LEVELED, CLEARED AND CEMENTED SO THAT MR. GONZALEZ CAN USE THE PROPERTY FOR THE WAY IN WHICH HE'S REQUESTING PERMISSION TO DO IT.
UM, AGAIN, THIS IS CONCERNING MR. GONZALEZ IS, IS ASKING THE, UM, FOR APPROVAL FOLLOWING THE CITY ORDINANCES.
SO HE IS GONNA ASK FOR APPROVAL FOR SOMETHING THAT, UM, HE'S GOING TO MOST LIKELY GO BEYOND.
AND WE'VE ALREADY SEEN MR. GONZALEZ'S BEHAVIOR NOT ASKING FOR APPROVAL FOR THE FENCE, JUST DOING WHATEVER HE WANTS TO DO IN ORDER TO, UM, MAINTAIN I GUESS HIS PROPERTY AND BUILD HIS BUSINESS.
I UNDERSTAND MR. GONZALEZ'S NEEDS TO GROW HIS BUSINESS, BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE TO DO THINGS IN THE RIGHT WAY.
AND WHEN WE ASK FOR FORGIVENESS AND SET UP FOR PERMISSION, WE'RE BASICALLY SAYING THOSE ORDINANCES ARE NOT IMPORTANT AND WE CAN JUST PAY THE FINES AND WE CAN MOVE ON.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, I REPRESENT A LOT OF PEOPLE WITH THE STRIKE FORCE TEAM AND NO ONE THAT I REPRESENT IS ABLE TO GET AWAY WITH THINGS LIKE THIS.
SO I'M JUST QUESTIONING AS TO WHY MR. GONZALEZ HAS BEEN ALLOWED TO VIOLATE THOSE ORDINANCES AND THE STRIKE FORCE TEAM HAS NOT GOTTEN INVOLVED.
AGAIN, WE'RE ASKING, UM, FOR MR. GONZALEZ'S REQUEST TO NOT BE GRANTED THAT HE BE DENIED BECAUSE WE, ONE, HE'S ALREADY DOING IT INSTEAD OF GETTING PERMISSION FIRST, GETTING PERMISSION FIRST, AND TWO, WE'RE NOT EVEN SURE IF HE'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO FOLLOW THE PROPER PROTOCOLS IN THE FUTURE WHEN HE IS SO CLEARLY GOING TO NEED TO BE REZONED AGAIN.
ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, UH, WE HAVE, UH, MR. SAMMY NARANJO FOLLOWED TO BE BY, UM, MS. CHRISTINA GOMEZ.
I'M GIVING YOU MY TIME TO ELIZABETH, BUT NOT
ALRIGHT, SO, UM, DO WE STILL HAVE MR. SAMMY THERON HALL? OKAY.
AND, UM, THERE WERE NO VOICEMAILS.
ALRIGHT, UM, MR. GONZALEZ, YOU HAVE A TIME FOR A SHORT REBUTTAL IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
WELL, I MENTIONED, I'M SORRY FOR BEING SO NERVOUS THE WAY I BRING THINGS, BUT I HAVE ALL MY LIFE SAVINGS INTO THIS BUSINESS AND HIGH SET.
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IF IT CAME DOWN TO ME GETTING DENIED, I JUST THINK IT'S GONNA BE A BIG PROBLEM.WHY? BECAUSE I COULD MOVE ALL MY MACHINERY AND STUFF TO MY ORIGINAL 4, 4 2 PROPERTY.
I COULD SOMEHOW SQUEEZE IT AND THERE'S A SMALL SPOT.
I'M GONNA TAKE DOWN THE FENCE AND IT'S GONNA STAY OPEN.
IT IS GONNA BE THE SAME PROBLEM.
THEY'RE GONNA BE REVERSING IN THERE, THROWING TIRES, THROWING TRASH.
THERE'S GONNA BE PEOPLE DOING DRUGS, SHOOTING UP.
THERE'S NEEDLES THROWN THERE BEFORE I PURCHASE THE PROPERTY.
SO I SAID, UH, I MEAN, I HOPE Y'ALL TAKING CONSIDERATION WHAT I JUST SAID AND HOPEFULLY Y'ALL PROVE IT.
I DO APOLOGIZE HOW SHE SAID FOR ALL THE NO PERMIT, STUFF LIKE THAT.
BUT I, IT'S MY FIRST BUSINESS, NEVER BEEN IN BUSINESS.
UH, THIS IS, UH, DISTRICT FIVE CASE COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE TO YOU.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU, UH, MR. CHAIR.
SO LET'S START WITH STAFF IF I COULD.
UM, SO HOW DID THIS CASE COME TO THE ZONING COMMISSION? THE APPLICANT, UM, WAS CITED BY CODE AND SO THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THEIR PROPERTY IN COMPLIANCE WITH, UH, THE WAY IT WAS BEING USED.
OKAY, SO NOW TO CODE COMPLIANCE, IF I COULD HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM CODE COMPLIANCE, PLEASE, OR YOU CAN STAY THERE AND USE THAT MICROPHONE.
EITHER WAY, WHATEVER YOU FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE DOING.
ALRIGHT, SO WHAT CODE COMPLIANCE ISSUES HAVE YOU SEEN, UM, AT THIS PROPERTY? YOU OR YOUR EMPLOYEES? RIGHT.
MY NAME IS EMIN THOMAS WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
SO BASICALLY, UM, MY TEAM WENT OUT TO THE SITE AND, UH, THEY FOUND BUNCH OF ISSUES BASICALLY.
UM, NUMBER ONE, YES, THERE WAS A HOUSE THERE, THE HOUSE WAS DEMOLISHED WITHOUT ANY PERMITS.
IT'S NOT, THE PERMIT IS NOT COMPLETED IF YOU JUST APPLY ONLINE AND YOU DON'T FOLLOW UP AND PAY FOR IT AND SUBMIT ALL THE DOCUMENTS.
AND LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I'LL, I'LL GET TO YOU MR. GONZALEZ.
WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT AND THOSE ISSUES, BUT PLEASE WAIT UNTIL THIS SPEAKER IS DONE.
THANK YOU MR. TOMAS, IF YOU WOULD.
THE SECOND ISSUE IS TECHNICALLY NO SITE WORK.
SO IT WAS BASICALLY CONCRETED COMPLETELY WITH NO SITE PERMIT AS WELL.
UH, A FOOT, A 12 FOOT PLUS, UH, I DON'T HAVE EXACT INFORMATION.
IT'S EITHER 12 FOOT OR 15 FOOT METAL.
CORRUGATED FENCE WAS ERECTED AROUND THE PROPERTY WITH NO PERMIT AS WELL.
AND AGAIN, REMEMBER THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, SO YOU'RE NOT EVEN ALLOWED TO USE CORRUGATED METAL AND YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO BE ABOVE SIX FOOT, BUT BECAUSE IT'S ADJACENT TO A COMMERCIAL, YOU CAN POTENTIALLY GET UP TO EIGHT FOOT, BUT NOT 12 OR 15.
UH, THERE IS A LOT OF STORAGE BASICALLY.
UM, METAL CONTAINERS ARE STORED ON THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.
UH, COMMERCIAL VEHICLES ARE STORED ON THE, UH, PROPERTY HEAVY MACHINERY STORED ON THE PROPERTY.
PORTABLE MOBILE TOILET STORED ON THE PROPERTY.
AGAIN, THIS IS RESIDENTIAL AND YOU HAVE ALL THESE COMMERCIAL, YOU KNOW, EQUIPMENT, MACHINERY, THINGS LIKE THAT STORED ON THE PROPERTY.
SO CODE, CODE COMPLIANCE WENT OUT THERE AND ISSUED, UH, NOTICES FOR ALL THESE VIOLATIONS.
I BELIEVE AT THAT POINT HE CAME AND APPLIED FOR, YOU KNOW, UH, THE REZONING AT THAT TIME.
WE STAY PUT BECAUSE HE'S IN THE PROCESS OF REZONING.
IF, UH, IF IT GETS APPROVED, OBVIOUSLY THEN HE CAN UTILIZE OR HE CAN USE THE PROPERTY FOR SOME OF THE THINGS HE WANTS TO USE IT FOR.
ALRIGHT, MR. TOMAS, AND, AND WHAT IS THE CURRENT STATUS OF THE NOTICES OR CITATIONS YOU'VE GIVEN TO MR. GONZALEZ RIGHT NOW? TECHNICALLY AT THIS POINT, THEY'RE ALL NOTICES AND DEPENDING ON THE OUTCOME OF THIS, THEN WE TAKE THE NEXT STEP.
EITHER CITATIONS OR HE NEEDS TO GET INTO COMPLIANCE.
UM, I NOW HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MR. TOMAS MENTIONED WAS THAT THERE WAS STORAGE OF, IT SOUNDS LIKE PORTA-POTTIES ON THIS LOCATION.
UM, I'M PRETTY SURE THAT'S WHAT HE SAID.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I HEARD HIM SAY.
UM, SO IN ANY EVENT, UM, IS THAT ALLOWED UNDER EVEN THE REQUESTED C THREE OUTSIDE, OUTSIDE STORAGE IS ALLOWED IN A C THREE? UM, NOW IF THERE'S ANY KIND OF SANITATION INVOLVED WITH IT, IT IS NOT ALLOWED.
IN OTHER WORDS, NO PROCESSING? NO.
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ALRIGHT.SO, AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON BACK THERE BECAUSE OF THE FENCES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE? THAT IS CORRECT.
UM, NOW MR. GONZALEZ ON, AND THIS IS STILL TO STAFF, BUT ON, ON THE NEW LAREDO HIGHWAY, UH, PORTION, UM, THAT MR. GONZALEZ HAS CONNECTED THE PROPERTY AT ISSUE TO WHERE HE IS RUNNING HIS RECYCLING BUSINESS, IS THAT CURRENTLY ALLOWED BY WRIGHT UNDER THE ZONING? HE HAS.
HE CURRENTLY, UH, HAS AN APPLICATION FOR A NON-CONFORMING USE THAT IS BEING, UH, THAT'S UNDER EVALUATION AT THE MOMENT.
ALRIGHT, MS. RUSSELL, IF I MAY ADDRESS A FEW QUESTIONS TO YOU.
SO I KNOW I GOT MS. TOMLIN AND I MISSED THE OTHER PERSON, UH, WHO WAS WILLING TO GIVE YOUR TIME, BUT YOU DIDN'T NEED IT.
UH, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE YOU REPRESENT? UM, I'VE BEEN CONTACTED BY SEVERAL LOCAL BUSINESS OWNERS IN THE AREA.
UM, I DIDN'T REALLY GET PERMISSION TO SAY THEIR NAMES OR I WOULD.
YOU JUST ASKED ME TO COME AND SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THEM.
HOW MANY WOULD YOU SAY? UM, AT LEAST SIX.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MS. RUSSELL, I THINK THAT'S ALL I NEEDED FROM YOU.
UM, AND THANK YOU FOR THE PICTURES MR. GONZALEZ.
UH, NOW I'D I'D LIKE TO ASK A FEW QUESTIONS OF YOU IF I MAY.
SO LET'S LOOK AT THIS PICTURE HERE.
UH, THAT'S CURRENTLY ON THE SCREEN.
CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THAT REPRESENTS? THAT REPRESENTS A SMALL RECYCLE YARD OPENING.
AND IS IS THAT YOUR PROPERTY, SIR? THAT IS MY, MY PROPERTY.
AND WHERE ARE WE COMING IN FROM? WHICH ROAD? 4 4 2 LARDO HIGHWAY.
AND SO THAT GOES ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION HERE? THAT IS CORRECT, SIR.
NOW WHEN YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU HAD ANOTHER PROPERTY THAT WAS LOOKING AT ZONING, UH, WHY DIDN'T WE, WHY DIDN'T YOU BRING THAT PROPERTY ALONG WITH THIS ONE AT THE SAME TIME? BECAUSE, UH, OKAY.
CAN YOU GO TO THE AERIAL SO THAT THEY CAN SEE THE, ALL THE PROPERTIES? I THINK THIS ONE WILL BE BETTER.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE, THIS IS WHERE ONE OF THE PROPERTY ENDS.
THIS IS ON, THAT'S GONNA BE COMING UP WITHIN A MONTH OR SO.
THERE'S NO CEMENT, THERE IS NOTHING THERE.
THAT PROPERTY, I JUST PURCHASED IT ABOUT A MONTH AGO.
UM, SO THERE IS TWO PROPERTIES RIGHT THERE AND I SAID THEY'RE BOTH BEING USED FOR STORAGE.
UH, I'M NOT DOING ANY RECYCLING, I'M NOT STORING ANY METALS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IT'S JUST BASICALLY VEHICLES THERE.
AND DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE ZONING FOR THAT OTHER PROPERTY THAT'S COMING IN THE FUTURE IS? RIGHT NOW? CURRENTLY THEY'RE BOTH, UH, RESIDENTIAL, SIR.
BUT THAT'S RM FOUR AS WELL, STAFF, CORRECT? YES.
AND IF I MAY ON THAT, UH, PORTA POTTY, UH, ISSUE THING, IT'S ONE PORTA POTTY AND THAT PORTA POTTY WAS LEFT AT THE 22, UH, THIRD 2235 SOUTH CROSS PROPERTY.
SO YOU'RE NOT, IT STAYED THERE.
YOU'RE NOT KEEPING MULTIPLE PORTA POTTIES.
UM, WOULD YOU, UH, GO AHEAD AND PUT UP THE SITE PLAN PLEASE? THANK YOU.
UH, MR. GONZALEZ, CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH, UM, THIS SITE PLAN? SO LET'S BEGIN WITH, DO YOU SEE THE 2235 WEST SOUTH CROSS BOULEVARD? I DO.
AND SO IS THAT APPROXIMATELY WHERE SOUTH CROSS BOULEVARD WOULD BE IN THIS JUST TO ORIENT? YES.
IS THERE ANY ENTRANCE FROM SOUTH CROSS ONTO THIS PROPERTY AS YOU ENVISION USING IT? UH, YES.
UH, I'M GONNA BE, UH, PUTTING A FENCE UP.
THE REASON WHY IT'S NOT THERE, UH, BECAUSE A CAR, I ORIGINALLY HAD A GATE THERE, A CAR RAN INTO IT.
IF YOU COULD SEE ON THE PICTURES THAT THEY PUT UP WHEN I WAS PUTTING IT, YOU COULD SEE WHERE THEY'RE DOING THE GATE.
SO THERE WAS A GATE THERE, SOMEBODY HIT IT.
SO THERE IS NO OPENING RIGHT NOW, BUT I DO PLAN WITHIN A WEEK TO PUT A GATE THERE AS IF IT WAS TO GET REZONED.
I'M STILL GONNA HAVE TO PUT A FENCE FROM HERE ALL THE WAY TO THE OTHER SIDE.
SO THERE IS NO WAY THAT I'M GONNA BE ABLE TO GET TO MY 4 4 2 KNEE LAREDO
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HIGHWAY IN THE ZONING THAT THEY RECOMMENDED.SO EITHER WAY, IF IT WAS TO GET REZONED, THE FENCE HAS TO GO UP.
ALRIGHT, SO THEN THAT LEADS ME TO THE NEXT QUESTION, WHICH IS ON THE BOTTOM RECTANGLE, UH, RUNNING PARALLEL TO THE SOUTH CROSS BOULEVARD, UH, THERE IS, UH, WHAT SAYS EMPTY RECTANGULAR OPEN TOP ROLL OFF AND THAT'S A 40 YARD DUMPSTER, RIGHT? 20 TO 40 YARD.
SO I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE SITE PLAN IS.
HOW IS THAT 20 TO 40 YARD ROLL OFF DUMPSTER GONNA BE REMOVED FROM THIS PROPERTY IF THE GATE IS RUNNING PARALLEL TO IT? IF, IF, UM, WELL SINCE I JUST, UH, LEARNED THAT I'M GONNA HAVE TO PUT UP THIS FENCE A WEEK AGO, I'M GONNA HAVE TO, I GUESS MOVE THESE ROLLOUTS TO THE SIDE AND BEING, UH, THAT WAY I COULD BE ABLE TO REVERSE INTO 'EM HOW I SAID, UH, THIS IS WHAT IS BEING USED FOR CURRENTLY.
AS OF THOUGH, A WEEK AGO I FOUND OUT THAT I HAD TO PUT A FENCE UP RIGHT HERE.
SO EITHER WAY, IF PEOPLE DRIVE THROUGH THE 4 4 2 ROAD HIGHWAY, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SEE TO THIS SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, AND STAFF, THE SITE PLAN THAT THEY SUBMIT, UM, LEMME MAKE SURE I AM SAYING WHAT I WANT FOR AN I D Z THREE.
THEY WILL BE, UH, WITHIN CERTAIN MINOR AMENDMENTS LIMITED TO THAT SITE PLAN AND THE USES AS SPECIFIED.
AND THOSE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS AS SPECIFIED AS WELL? YES SIR.
SO IF YOU ARE GONNA DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, THIS SITE PLAN IS NO LONGER APPROPRIATE, IT BECOMES THE PROBLEM.
NO FURTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME, MR. CHAIR.
ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS? OTHER COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? NO COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT? NONE.
ALRIGHT, BACK TO YOU COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE MOTION.
UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THIS IS A PARTICULARLY HARD CASE.
UH, USUALLY I SAY, I WOULD SAY IT IS.
UM, ONE THING I WILL SAY IS, MR. GONZALEZ, I WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK IN YOUR BUSINESS.
UH, BUT RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU ARE WORKING WITH LAND, WHEN YOU ARE DOING CONSTRUCTION WORK, WHEN YOU ARE CHANGING HOW THE LAND IS USED, YOU NEED TO GO THROUGH THE PERMITS.
AND I'M, I'M SORRY YOU HAD TO LEARN THE LESSON IN THIS WAY.
I REALLY AM, AND I I DON'T WANT, YOU KNOW,
UM, AND THAT, I HOPE THE LESSON THAT COMES OUT OF THIS IS DOING THE PERMITS, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH THE CITY STAFF THAT WE HAVE HERE AT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, WHICH IS REALLY GOOD, CAN REALLY AVOID A LOT OF THESE HEADACHES IN THE FUTURE.
UM, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN THAT SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GO THROUGH THESE PROCESSES, UH, THAT PERSONAL GRUDGES, PERSONAL DISAGREEMENTS, UH, CAN BLEED INTO, UH, THESE THINGS.
BUT WHEN I CONSIDER THIS CASE, I CONSIDER THE CODE COMPLIANCE ISSUES.
I CONSIDER THE PEOPLE THAT MS. RUSSELL IS HERE WITH TODAY AND THOSE PEOPLE THAT SHE REPRESENTS, AND I CONSIDER THE QUINTANA, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND ALL OF THOSE FOLKS ARE AGAINST THIS USE.
SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK GIVEN THOSE FACTS, AND I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN REGARDING, YOU KNOW, HAVING A VACANT LOT, YOU KNOW, KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY PEOPLE DO TEND TO DUMP THERE.
THEY DO TEND TO DO ACTIVITIES THAT WE WOULDN'T WANT 'EM TO DO, BUT GIVEN THE STATUS OF THIS CASE, GIVEN THAT WE DON'T HAVE A SITE PLAN THAT WOULD WORK GIVEN THE CODE COMPLIANCE ISSUES, I'M GOING TO MOVE FOR DENIAL OF ITEM NUMBER 12.
AND SO, MOVE RIGHT THERE IS A MOTION FOR DENIAL.
THERE IS A MOTION FOR DENIAL BY COMMISSIONER BUSER MONTE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON.
ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER ON MY RIGHT.
I ACTUALLY THINK, UM, THIS CASE IT IS A LITTLE DIFFICULT.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M GONNA SUPPORT THE MOTION IN, IN A INTERESTING TWIST OF FACTS FOR TODAY.
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L WHICH IS EXACTLY THE PREVIOUS CASE.UM, WE HAD THE RESIDENTIAL NEXT TO WHAT WAS POTENTIALLY GOING TO BE THE L WITH A SPECIAL USE OR, OR WHATEVER BRINGING DOWN INDUSTRIAL USES RIGHT NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL.
AND I JUST, I, I STRUGGLE, I GUESS A LITTLE BIT UNDERSTANDING, UM, HOW THESE PROPERTIES ARE GONNA BE USED.
I COMPLETELY RESPECT COMMISSIONER BUSTA MONTE'S, UM, BEING A STICKLER FOR FOLLOWING THE CORRECT PROCESS.
AND I THINK THAT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY REALLY RELEVANT WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH PROPERTY AND DEALING WITH THESE TYPES OF SITUATIONS, YOU KNOW, GOING THROUGH THE RIGHT PROCESSES.
BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT THINGS SOMETIMES SLIP THROUGH THE CRACKS AND SOMETIMES THERE'S A LACK OF KNOWLEDGE.
SO, UM, I, I DON'T KNOW, I JUST, THIS CASE TO ME IS DIFFICULT JUST BECAUSE I DON'T, I, I DON'T SEE THOSE THREE PROPERTIES GOING BACK TO BEING RESIDENTIAL USE, ALTHOUGH I'M SURE THEY WERE AT, AT ONE POINT, BUT I, I JUST, I DON'T KNOW WHO WOULD WANNA LIVE NEXT TO THIS.
AND, YOU KNOW, DEALING WITH THE, LIKE WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT BEFORE, THE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, THE, UM, DISRUPTION TO LIFE.
SO WE'D BE PUTTING SOMEONE IN A, IN A CIRCUMSTANCE HERE, HOUSING THEM IN A CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE THEY WOULD BE DISRUPTED BY WHAT'S GOING ON AROUND THEM.
SO THAT'S MY 2 CENTS, RIGHT? SHOW YOU A PICTURE OF 2010.
UH, KIND OF IN THE SAME, UH, POSITION AS COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE.
UM, YOU KNOW, THIS AREA HAS BECOME VERY LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, CAR USAGE OR CAR STORAGE SCRAPPING THERE.
AND WHILE THERE IS EXISTING RESIDENTIAL, I, I WOULDN'T WANNA PUT ANYONE IN IN THAT POSITION TO LIVE NEAR THIS.
SO, UM, GRANTED THERE'S BEEN SOME ISSUES WITH, UH, FOLLOWING THE PROCESSES.
UM, I, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT SHOULD OVERWEIGH THE, THE FACT THAT WE WOULD BE CONSIDERING TO LEAVE THIS AREA AS RESIDENTIAL WITH SO MANY HEAVY USES SURROUNDING IT.
UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER WHEAT, UH, IF YOU'LL GRANT ME SOME LEEWAY, A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
SO IF THIS MOTION FOR DENIAL PASSES, WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT CURRENT, UH, PROPERTY NOW THAT THE HOUSE HAS BEEN DEMOLISHED? UH, STAFF? WELL, WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE THE ASSUMPTION THAT IT GOES TO, UM, IT GETS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL, BUT EVEN, UM, IF THEY WITHDREW IT BEFORE THAT OR IT GOES TO COUNCIL AND IT GETS DENIED, THEN THEY, THE PROPERTY MUST COME INTO COMPLIANCE.
SO THEY WILL HAVE TO CHANGE THE FENCE, UM, OR GO TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT FOR A, UM, VARIANCE, UM, FOR BOTH THE HEIGHT AND THE CORRUGATED METAL.
UM, BUT OTHERWISE IT'LL JUST, THEY HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE CURRENT ORDINANCES.
YEAH, I, UH, I SEE WHAT, UM, I AGREE WHAT, UH, MY PREVIOUS, UH, COMMISSION'S, UH, COMMENTS HAVE ARE.
AND YOU KNOW, FOR ME, I LOOK AT THIS AND IT IS A COMPLICATED CASE BECAUSE I SEE THAT, UH, THIS GENTLEMAN HERE IS A, A NEW BUSINESS, UH, PERSON AND HE'S TRYING TO WORK HIS BUSINESS AND HE DOESN'T NECESSARILY KNOW ALL THE RULES, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT IGNORANCE OF THE RULE DOES NOT GIVE YOU PERMISSION, YOU KNOW, TO DO WHAT YOU WANNA DO.
AND THAT'S WHERE THINGS GET REAL COMPLICATED FOR ME.
UM, DISCUSSION, UH, COMMISSIONER WATSON, UH, AS THE PERSON WHO SECONDED THIS MOTION, I'M HAPPY TO ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ON MY, UH, REASON FOR DOING SO.
UM, I DON'T ACTUALLY OPPOSE THE PROPOSED USE NECESSARILY.
UM, HOWEVER, UH, THE LENGTHY LIST OF PERMITTING CHALLENGES ALONG WITH THE COMMUNITY, UM, FEEDBACK RELATED TO THIS CASE IS WHAT PUSHED ME TO, UM, SUPPORT CHAIR, UH, EXCUSE ME, COMMISSIONER BUS'S MOTION, UM, IN AREAS LIKE THIS, UM, THAT HAVE HAD ENCROACHMENT INTO FORMERLY RESIDENTIAL AREAS WITH HEAVIER COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL USES, UM, I SEE THE FAILURE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, EVEN IF IT WAS BECAUSE OF A LACK OF UNDERSTANDING OF IT, UM, IN TERMS OF CORRECT PERMITTING, GOING THROUGH DEMOLITION, UM, ERECTING SOMETHING THAT IS SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT AN EIGHT FOOT, YOU KNOW, WOODEN FENCE.
IT'S A 10 TO 15 FOOT CORRUGATED METAL FENCE AS, UM, SETTING A PRECEDENT FOR BASICALLY GIVING PERMISSION TO BREAK THE RULES IN THE FUTURE.
UM, EVEN IF IN THIS CASE, UM, I, I DO BELIEVE MR. GONZALEZ HAS, YOU KNOW, GOOD INTENTIONS AND I WANNA SEE HIS BUSINESS BE SUCCESSFUL, UM, IT CAN BE USED IN FUTURE CASES IN SIMILAR AREAS WHERE THERE MAY NOT BE SURROUNDING INDUSTRIAL USES, UM, AS A WAY TO JUSTIFY, UM, GRANTING,
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YOU KNOW, A HEAVIER INDUSTRIAL OR A USE USING I D Z OR ANY OTHER, UM, MEANS.AND, UH, CREATING ENCROACHMENT THAT'S HAS A POTENTIAL NEGATIVE IMPACT, UM, ON THE COMMUNITY.
IF THERE IS COMMUNITY SUPPORT, I MIGHT THINK DIFFERENTLY, UM, WITH THERE BEING MULTIPLE PERMITTING VIOLATIONS IN ADDITION TO THE LACK OF COMMUNITY SUPPORT, UM, AS MUCH AS I THINK IT, UH, UH, INDUSTRIAL LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USE MAKES SENSE IN THIS AREA.
AS MUCH AS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE BUSINESS BE SUCCESSFUL, UM, I JUST THINK IT CREATES TOO MANY LOOPHOLES, UM, AND, UH, WOULD BE HAPPY TO SEE, UM, SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN THE FUTURE DONE CORRECTLY.
UM, THE OTHER THING THAT REALLY PUSHED ME, UM, TO SUPPORT THE MOTION IS THAT THE SITE PLAN WOULD HAVE TO BE CHANGED ANYWAY.
UM, AND SO WITH, YOU KNOW, HAVING TO DO SOME SUBSTANTIAL WORK TO REVISE THAT, I, I DON'T SEE THIS AS BEING SOMETHING THAT CAN BE SUPPORTED IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE.
ANY OTHER FINAL COMMENTS? UH, COMMISSIONER BOTTLES? I, UM, REALLY LIKE WHAT COMMISSIONER SUMMER SAID, I THINK THAT A LOT OF TIMES, UM, SMALL BUSINESS OWNER DOESN'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THE RULES AND I DEAL WITH THIS ALMOST EVERY DAY WITH PEOPLE THAT I REPRESENT DOWNTOWN AND RIVERWALK.
SO, UH, I WISH THERE WAS A WAY TO, UM, AND THEN WE HAVE REALLY GOOD STAFF HERE IN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES THAT CAN HELP AND ASSIST AND ADVISE.
A LOT OF THEM DON'T KNOW WHERE TO START UNLESS YOU ASK THE RIGHT QUESTIONS.
SO UNLESS YOU HIRE AN ATTORNEY TO HELP YOU WITH THE PROCESS, YOU'RE COMPLETELY LOST.
UH, AND I'VE LEARNED SO MUCH BY LISTENING TO ALL OF YOU.
SO, UM, I WISH IT WAS A WAY TO SEND THIS BACK BECAUSE I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER SUMMER THAT THIS AREA, AND I'VE DRIVEN THAT AREA, UH, IS MOSTLY INDUSTRIAL USE.
UH, IT'S NOT A RESIDENTIAL AREA, SO, UH, SO I AM NOT GONNA SUPPORT THE, UM, THE VOTE ON THIS ONE.
UH, ANY OTHER FINAL DISCUSSION? OH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE.
I JUST HAVE A QUESTION, AND MAYBE THIS IS REALLY LATE TO ASK THIS, BUT WAS, DID THE NEIGHBORHOOD ELABORATE AS TO THEIR ISSUES? LIKE THE REASON THAT THEY DIDN'T SUPPORT THIS? WAS THERE SOME TYPE OF STATEMENT? UH, I DID RECEIVE A STATEMENT FROM THE QUINTANA, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THROUGH THE COUNCIL OFFICE.
IF THE CHAIR, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
I'D, I'D RATHER NOT SUMMARIZE, GET IT.
BUT, UM, THE TONAH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION DOES NOT APPROVE OF THE REZONING CASE, UH, ENDING IN OH ONE NINE.
FURTHERMORE, WE WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE PROPERTY OWNERS ALONG WEST SIDE SOUTH CROSS TO ADHERE TO RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL STANDARDS.
AS REFERENCED IN THE PUEBLO MASTER PLAN.
FOR TOO MANY YEARS, THE RECYCLED SCRAPPED METALED INDUSTRY HAS TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF THE COMMUNITY WITH UNSIGHTLY PROPERTY MANAGEMENT AND POOR SAFETY STANDARDS DUE TO GRANDFATHERED LAND USE PRIVILEGES.
THE RESIDENTS OF THE QUINTANA AREA DESERVE A HEALTHY AND BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY THAT ENCOURAGES NEW INDUSTRIES AND NEW COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITIES.
PLEASE CONTACT ME IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, I, I GUESS LIKE MY ADDITIONAL COMMENTARY HERE IS JUST THAT I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT AND I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND COMMISSIONER WATSON'S COMMENTS AS WELL.
I JUST STRUGGLE WITH LOOKING AT IT FROM LIKE, ALSO LIKE THE PLANNING PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT ARE THESE PROPERTIES GONNA BE AND WHAT ARE WE, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY COMES AND BUYS THEM AND DEVELOPS THEM AS RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, WHAT, WHY? I MEAN, JUST FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, IT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME GIVEN THIS IS LIKE A POCKET OF THREE PROPERTIES SURROUNDED ENTIRELY BY INDUSTRIAL USE.
SO THAT'S, I JUST, I'M PROBABLY NOT GONNA SUPPORT THE MOTION, I JUST CAN'T GET PAST THAT.
IT, IT'S, IT IS, THIS IS A DIFFICULT CASE.
UM, UH, AND, BUT I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE JUST, IF IT'S THE MOTION PASSES FOR DENIAL IN THE FUTURE, THIS COULD BE, I COULD SEE THIS BEING COMMERCIAL.
I, I, I JUST, I THINK THAT THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD APPEARS TO BE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE HESITANT TO ALLOW ADDITIONAL INDUSTRIAL USES.
I, I, YOU KNOW, IF IF THE PROPOSAL WAS FOR A COMMERCIAL USE, THEY MAY HAVE SUPPORTED IT.
UM, SO, BUT YEAH, I'M STILL STRUGGLING WITH, WITH MY DECISION AS WELL.
SO THE MOTION IS FOR DENIAL, RIGHT? YEAH, THE MOTION WAS FOR DENIAL BY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON.
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COMMISSIONER FUENTES? NO.ALRIGHT, SO THE ITEM HAS FAILED.
SO THERE COULD BE A MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION BY ONE OF THOSE VOTING.
WAS COMMISSIONER WEAK? CORRECT? SORRY, I WAS LOOKING THE WRONG WAY.
AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES.
ALRIGHT, MOTION TO RECONSIDER.
COULD I, UM, ADD AN ADDENDUM TO THAT, OR, OR CAN WE ALLOW THAT OR NOT? I, I DON'T KNOW TO, I DON'T KNOW.
AND MY QUESTION IS JUST, HE, HE STATED EARLIER HE HAD ANOTHER PROPERTY.
SO IF HE COMES BACK WITH ALL THREE PROPERTIES COMBINED INTO ONE, DOES THAT GIVE HIM A BETTER PROPOSAL TO TRY TO PASS THE ZONING APPLICATION? IT'S GONNA BE EVALUATED ON THE SAME.
SO HE STILL HAS TO BACK REGARDLESS.
THERE'S A MOTION TO RECONSIDER, UH, MR. CHAIR.
SHOULD THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER FAIL, HE WOULD COME BACK NEXT MEETING? CORRECT.
SO IF THE MOTION FAILS, THEN UM, IT'S A BASICALLY A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE AND YOU COME BACK IN TWO WEEKS AND WE'LL LOOK AT IT AGAIN.
SO IS THERE AN ALTERNATE MOTION BEING GOING TO BE MADE? I'D LIKE TO, UH, MOTION FOR A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE SO THAT, UH, THE APPLICANT CAN REEVALUATE THE SITE PLAN AND, UH, COME BACK A LITTLE BIT MORE PREPARED.
WHO SECONDED WAS THAT? COMMISSIONER? WE ALRIGHT.
MOTION FOR TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES.
WE, UH, DO WE NEED TO DISCUSS COMMISSIONER BARTOS? I I JUST WANT TO ADD ONE COMMENT.
YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M IN FAVOR OF APPROVING AS LONG AS HE MEETS ALL THE CITY ORDINANCE, DETAILING, FENCING, AND ALL THE, ALL THE REQUIREMENTS ISSUED BY, BY THE CITY.
I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THAT FENCE COMPLETELY OVERSIZED.
I THINK HE MISSES IT BY ONE OR TWO FEET.
SO IF HE CAN COMPLY WITH THAT, I THINK THIS WILL PASS EVENTUALLY IN TWO WEEKS OR FOUR WEEKS.
IF WE COULD GET A COMMISSIONER.
BUSMAN, DID YOU WANT A FINAL COMMENT OR NO? NO.
UH, MOTIONS FOR A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE.
ALRIGHT, MR. GONZALEZ, WE'LL SEE YOU IN TWO WEEKS.
[Approval of Minutes ]
TO DISCUSS.IS THERE A MOTION OR ANY CHANGES TO THE MINUTES THAT ARE NEEDED? MR. CHAIR, I MOVE.
MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES BY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE.
UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES? SAY AYE.
[Director’s Report ]
A DIRECTOR'S REPORT? NO.BUT AGAIN, IF YOU
SOMEONE YOU DON'T WANNA BE FRIENDS WITH ANYMORE.
SOMEONE YOU DON'T WANNA BE FRIENDS WITH.
SO THE COM UH, ZONING COMMISSION HEARING IS ADJOURNED AT THREE O'CLOCK OH TWO.