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[Work Session 12:00 P. M. Discussion of 1) Mission Protection Overlay District (MPOD) Expansion, 2) Gardendale Large Area and 3) the Verde Hills Area Rezoning. Staff briefing regarding case recommendations and other items for consideration on the posted agenda. Commissioners may direct questions to staff regarding items noticed on the posted agenda or regarding City of San Antonio policies or operations in order to elicit a response of specific factual information or a recitation of existing policy pursuant to Section 551.042 of the Texas Government Code. ]
GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.IF WE COULD START WITH HAVING OUR SPANISH TRANSLATION SERVICES STATEMENT, PLEASE.
UH, BEFORE WE BEGIN, IF YOU WOULD LIKE A MASK, DO WE HAVE MASKS STILL AVAILABLE? WE STILL HAVE MASKS AVAILABLE OVER HERE IN THE CORNER.
UM, SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE ONE, YOU CAN GET UP AND GET ONE.
UM, MY NAME IS ROB SIPES AND I AM THE CHAIR OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT SEVEN ZONING COMMISSIONER.
I HEREBY CALL THIS REGULARLY SCHEDULED NOTICE MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION INTO SESSION.
I'D LIKE TO DO A ROLL CALL BY ALLOWING THE ZONING COMMISSIONERS TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, STARTING WITH THE COMMISSIONERS ON MY FAR LEFT.
MARCO BARROS, UH, REPRESENT DISTRICT NINE.
I'M FROM DISTRICT FOUR, JOHN BUSTAMANTE, DISTRICT FIVE, ALD ORTIZ, DISTRICT EIGHT.
MICHELLE EGALI, HOLLAND MAYOR'S APPOINTEE,
UH, STAFF IS A QUORUM PRESENT.
WOULD EVERYONE PLEASE STAND FOR OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE REPUBLICATION.
PRIOR TO COMMENCING OUR HEARING, I WOULD LIKE OUR STAFF TO REVIEW OUR MEETING FORMAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE STAFF.
BEFORE I BEGIN, PLEASE TURN YOUR PHONES, UM, VIBRATE OR TURN THEM OFF.
THE ZONING COMMISSION IS AN 11 MEMBER BODY APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ZONING CASES UPON RECEIVING A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION, YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO FORWARD YOUR CASE TO CITY COUNCIL.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PROCEDURE, PLEASE SEE YOUR CASE MANAGER.
STAFF WILL BEGIN EACH CASE WITH A SHORT PRESENTATION OF THE REQUEST.
PART OF THE PRESENTATION INCLUDES A MAP THAT SHOWS THE AREA TO BE CONSIDERED FOR REZONING AND PROPERTY WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT.
PROPERTY CHECK MARKS INDICATE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND AN EX INDICATES THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN OPPOSITION.
FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION AND ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION, THE APPLICANT WILL PRESENT THEIR REQUEST FOR THOSE THAT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE PROPOSED REZONING.
YOU WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THAT YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
THOSE IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER AND YOU'RE NOT OBLIGATED TO UTILIZE THE MAXIMUM TIME LIMITATION.
YOU WILL BE INFORMED THAT THE THREE MINUTES ARE UP.
FOR THOSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEIR TIME TO A SPEAKER, THAT SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO PEOPLE GIVING THEIR TIME FOR A TOTAL OF NINE MINUTES.
THOSE GIVING UP THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AND SIGNED UP TO SPEAK AND MUST ANNOUNCE WHEN THAT SPEAKER IS GOING UP TO THE PODIUM THAT THEY ARE YIELDING THEIR TIME.
THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL LIMITED TO ONE SPEAKER WITH A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMITATION ALONG WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSION QUESTIONS.
UM, I'D LIKE TO GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMISSIONER WATSON TO INTRODUCE HERSELF TAYLOR WATSON, DISTRICT TWO.
AND IF WE COULD NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT, UH, MS. WATSON JOINED THE MEETING AT, I'M GONNA STOP LOOKING AT THE ROMAN NUMERALS ONE 10.
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STAFF.IF WE, IF WE COULD GO OVER ANY WITHDRAWN OR POSTPONED ITEMS, PLEASE.
ITEM NUMBER ONE, UM, CASE NUMBER Z 2020 3 107 0 0 1 9 4 GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE 7,500 BLOCK OF PRU ROAD IS POSTPONED.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU ARE HERE FOR THAT CASE ON PRU ROAD, UM, WE WILL NOT BE HEARING THAT TODAY AND YOU ARE FREE TO LEAVE AND ENJOY THE RAINY FIRST FULL DAY OF SPRING.
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POSTPONED, WHICH MEANS WHEN IT COMES BACK YOU WILL BE RE NOTIFIED.SO WE WILL NOT BE HEARING THAT TODAY.
UH, STAFF, IF WE COULD GO OVER THE LIST OF ITEMS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON THE COMBINED AGENDA.
ITEMS ON THE COMBINED AGENDA, WE HAVE ITEMS NUMBER SIX, NUMBER 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 18, AND 19.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, ARE ANY OF THESE ITEMS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO PULL TO FROM THE COMBINED CONSENT? SEEING NONE ON MY LEFT.
UM, SEEING NONE, IF WE COULD READ THE COMBINED HEARING AGENDA NUMBER ONE INTO THE RECORD, PLEASE RECORD PLEASE.
COMMISSIONERS, WE'RE JUST CLARIFYING.
OKAY, SO I JUST NEED TO VERIFY IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE SIGNED UP FOR, UH, ITEM NUMBER 19, WHICH ENDS IN, UH, ZONING CASE 0 3 5 C D SS, WHICH IS AT THE 3,800 BLOCK OF LOOP 1604? YES.
NOT SIGNED UP? YOU'RE NOT SIGNED UP? YES.
GO AHEAD AND COME ON OVER AND SIGN IN.
MR. CHAIR, IF WE COULD PULL ITEM 19 FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.
SO WITH THESE, UH, PEOPLE SIGNED IN, UH, WE ARE REMOVING ITEMS NUMBER 14, ITEMS NUMBER 15 AND ITEM NUMBER 19 WILL BE MOVED TO INDIVIDUAL THANK YOU STAFF.
IF WE COULD HEAR THE OTHER I, THE REMAINING ITEMS PLEASE.
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SO, ITEMS FOR COMBINED CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM I D Z TO C THREE I D Z WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.LOCATED AT 1900 NORTH ALAMO STREET, 27 NOTICES WERE SENT.
AND GOVERNMENT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT.
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FOUR TO C ONE WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 7 51 YUCCA STREET, 16 NOTICES WERE SENT, ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS WITHIN 200 FEET.
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C TWO TO R FOUR WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT ONE 10 AVANT AVENUE.
AND HIGHLAND PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT.
ITEM NUMBER NINE IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO R SIX CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 1 7 4 KALIA AVENUE, 43 NOTICES WERE SENT.
ZERO IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED AND NO RESPONSE FROM HARLANDALE MCCULLUM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 10 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FOUR TO C THREE WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 8,000 SOUTHEAST LOOP.
FOUR TEN SEVEN NOTICES WERE SENT.
ONE IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND NO RESPONSE FROM THE SOUTHEAST SIDE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 11 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FOUR AND I I TWO TO C TWO WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 2026 SOUTH ALAMO STREET, 29 NOTICES WERE SENT ONE IN FAVOR.
ZERO OPPOSED NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
ITEM NUMBER 12 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FOUR TO I D Z ONE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 1508 LEAL STREET, 22 NOTICES WERE SENT.
ZERO OPPOSED WEST END HOPE IN ACTION NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT.
ITEM NUMBER 13 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO R FOUR WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 2 35 CORNELL AVENUE.
ZERO OPPOSED NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
ITEM NUMBER 16 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM I D Z ONE TO I D Z ONE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR SIX DWELLING UNITS WITH A MAJOR SITE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR A DECREASE IN PERIMETER BUFFER BETWEEN I D Z PLAN AND ADJACENT PROPERTIES WITH OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 2 0 2 TO TWO 12 YELLOWSTONE STREET.
ONE IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND NO RESPONSE FROM ROOSEVELT PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
AND THEN LAST ITEM NUMBER 18 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO C TWO WITH A VARIANCE TO ALLOW A FENCE HEIGHT OF EIGHT FEET WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 24 10 SOUTHWEST LOOP 4 10 19.
NOTICES WERE SENT, ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND NO RESPONSE FROM THE LACKLAND TERRORIST NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
WE DO HAVE SOME SPEAKERS FOR A FEW OF THOSE ITEMS. ITEM NUMBER SIX, PLEASE.
ANDREW TEJEDA, YOU DON'T WANNA SPEAK? OKAY.
WE ALSO HAVE FOR ITEM NUMBER EIGHT AT WINTON AVANT, UH, STEPHANIE ESQUIVEL.
AND THEN ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, WHO WAS IT?
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WHO WAS THAT FOR ITEM SEVEN? ITEM SEVEN.DID YOU, IN, IN YOUR NAME, JUST, JUST TO CLARIFY, YOU'RE THE APPLICANT, CORRECT SIR? YES.
DID YOU NEED TO SPEAK FOR ANY REASON? YES.
UM, FOR THE MATTER OF, UH, MY CASE? YEAH, IT'S ON, IT'S ON THE CASE IS ON CONSENT, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO SPEAK.
YOU CAN, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO.
DO WE HAVE ANY VOICEMAILS, LADIES? OKAY.
AND JUST TO CLARIFY, ITEM TWO WAS MOVED TO CONTINUANCE CORRECTLY.
SO, UM, IS THERE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF, OR A MOTION FOR THESE ITEMS? MR. CHAIR? I MOVE TO APPROVE.
ITEM 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 16, AND 18.
ALL RIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
WE'LL SECOND THAT MOVE TO CHAIR.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BUSTA MONTE FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 16, AND 18.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARDOS.
UM, ANY DISCUSSION? LOOKING LEFT.
THANK YOU LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU WERE HERE FOR THOSE ITEMS THAT WE JUST READ INTO THE RECORD AND UH, PASSED A MOTION TO FOR APPROVAL, YOU ARE FREE TO GO AS THOSE ITEMS WILL NOW BE MOVING ON TO CITY COUNCIL.
ALRIGHT, WE ARE NOW GONNA MOVE TO OUR CONTINUANCE AGENDA AND SO IF WE COULD HEAR THOSE ITEMS PLEASE.
SO ITEMS FOR CONTINUANCE ARE ITEM NUMBER TWO AND 17.
ITEM NUMBER TWO IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FOUR TO R FOUR CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT ONE 17 WEST WOODLAWN AVENUE.
MONTE VISTA HISTORICAL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED AND OUTSIDE 200 FEET THERE WAS ONE IN FAVOR AND ONE OPPOSED.
AND THEN ITEM NUMBER 17 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FOUR TO IDZ TWO WITH USES PERMITTED FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 1 22 ANNIE STREET, 20 NOTICES WERE SENT.
MONTE VISTA TERRACE IS NEUTRAL.
OUTSIDE 200 FEET THERE ARE THREE OPPOSED.
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THOSE ITEMS? NO SIR.
AND NO VOICEMAILS EITHER? CORRECT.
UM, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THE CONTINUANCE AGENDA, MR. CHAIR.
I MOVE THAT WE CONTINUE ITEMS TWO AND 17 TO THE APRIL 4TH, 2023 MEETING.
THERE'S A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OR TO CONTINUE THE ITEMS TO THE APRIL 4TH AGENDA.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
ALRIGHT, MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEMS NUMBER TWO AND 17 TO APRIL 4TH.
UM, MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARTOS.
ALRIGHT LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THOSE ITEMS WILL BE REHEARD IN TWO WEEKS SO YOU ARE FREE TO GO AS WELL.
WE WILL NOW BE MOVING ON TO OUR INDIVIDUAL HEARING AND I BELIEVE THE FIRST ITEM IS NUMBER THREE.
ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HAVE STAFF'S PRESENTATION PLEASE.
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GOOD AFTERNOON.ANNE BENAVIDEZ ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER THREE IS LOCATED AT 2 1 4 EAST L CHAPPAL AND IS A REQUEST TO GO FROM R SIX TO IDZ TWO WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
THERE WERE 29 NOTICES MAILED WITH THREE RETURNED IN FAVOR, ZERO IN OPPOSITION AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM LONE STAR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THIS ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
HOWEVER, THE HI THE PROPOSED HEIGHT FOR STORIES IS OUT OF CHARACTER WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
THE CURRENT R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE REQUEST FOR I D Z TWO, MEDIUM INTENSITY INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE DISTRICT WITH USES PERMITTED FOR ONE DWELLING UNIT, PROPOSES APPROPRIATE USES, BUT THE DEVELOPMENT COULD BE ACHIEVED IN THE I D Z ONE BAY ZONING DISTRICT.
THE PROPERTY IS AN ESTABLISHED SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD COMPRISED OF SINGLE STORY AND DOUBLE STORY STRUCTURES WHILE THERE IS I D Z TWO ZONING FOUND IN PROXIMITY TO THE SUBJECT SITE.
THAT DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT ABUT SINGLE FAMILY LAND USE AND IS ONLY THREE STORIES HIGH AT ITS TALLEST POINT.
STAFF SUPPORTS THE RESIDENTIAL INFILL BUT RECOMMENDS I D Z ONE LIMITED INTENSITY INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE DISTRICT WITH USES PERMITTED FOR ONE DWELLING UNIT, WHICH HAS A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF TWO AND A HALF STORIES AND 35 FEET.
GIVEN THEIR SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL WITH AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION FOR I D Z ONE.
THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND PRESENT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT, IF PLEASE, IF YOU JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND TELL US ABOUT YOUR PROJECT.
ADDRESS, 1 25 GLASS AVENUE, ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 0 4.
UM, THE PROJECT, UH, THE LOT ITSELF IS REALLY RELATIVELY SMALL.
IT'S UH, UNDER 2,600 SQUARE FEET WITH A 30 FOOT FRONTAGE.
UM, SO IN ORDER TO BUILD A PROPER SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE WITH PARKING AND A TWO CAR GARAGE, THAT'S WHY I WAS INITIALLY REQUESTING THE FOUR STORY IDZ TWO ALLOWANCE.
HOWEVER, UM, I COULD WELL WORK WITHIN THE I D Z ONE, UM, BUT I WAS, UH, INFORMED RECENTLY THAT THERE'S A DEFINITION CHANGE ON TWO AND A HALF STORIES, WHICH WOULD PROBABLY PREVENT ME FROM PROPERLY DEVELOPING THE, THE LAND TO UH, A THREE STORY, TWO AND A HALF STORY HOME.
SO RIGHT NOW I'M STILL UNCLEAR ON WHAT THIS NEW DEFINITION OF TWO AND A HALF STORIES IS.
UM, WE'LL JUST STAY CLOSE 'CAUSE WE'LL HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.
UM, THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE CASE, SO COMMISSIONER BUSANTE TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS.
UM, ALRIGHT, SO LET'S START WITH THAT ISSUE REGARDING WHAT TWO AND A HALF STORIES MEANS NOW SINCE JANUARY 1ST IN THE NEW U D C AMENDMENTS.
SO STAFF, IF YOU WOULD, COULD YOU EXPLAIN THAT? UM, YES, IT'S A, A LITTLE BIT MORE ELABORATE.
UH, BUT BASICALLY WHAT IT'S SAYING IS THAT, UM, THE UPPERMOST STORY CANNOT EXCEED A FLOOR AREA DERIVED BY MULTIPLYING THE FLOOR AREA OF THE STORY DIRECTLY BELOW BY 50%.
UM, SO IF YOU HAVE TWO STORIES, IT WOULD BE THE MIDDLE STORY THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE THE PERCENTAGE FROM.
AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, UM, IT HAS TO BE EQUITY EQUIDISTANT ON ALL SIDES.
SO YOU'RE LOOKING LIKE AT BASICALLY A BOTTOM, A MIDDLE AND THEN A VERY SMALL, A TOP TOWARDS THE CENTER OF THE STRUCTURE.
AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE CANNOT BE ANY OPEN DECKS OR PORCHES AS PART OF THAT.
SO THAT IS WHAT THE NEW DEFINITION IS.
AND IN, JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME PERSPECTIVE AS TO WHAT THE OLD DEFINITION WAS, WAS IT WOULD TAKE THE, THE LOWEST LEVEL AND THEN JUST DO 50% AND THERE WAS NO SPECIFICATION AS TO HOW THAT HAD TO BE DISTRIBUTED ON THAT TOP LEVEL.
SO WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU SAY THAT YOU'RE TAKING 50%, YOU'RE TAKING 50% OF THE AREA OF, IN THE NEW DEFINITION, THE SECOND FLOOR.
SPREAD ON THE THIRD FLOOR UP TO 50%.
ALRIGHT, MR. SANTO TO YOU THEN.
GIVEN THAT EXPLANATION, IS THAT SUFFICIENT TO ACCOMPLISH YOUR PROJECT IN I D Z ONE? WELL THE, IT'S, I DON'T THINK IT WILL BE BECAUSE UM, THE SPACE AROUND THE NON 50% IS, HAS TO BE A ROOF OR UNUSABLE SPACE.
UM, SO I'M NOT SURE THE DESIGN ON THAT WOULD BE AS OKAY.
UM, AND THEN STILL A LITTLE BIT
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UNCLEAR ON THE 25%.SO IS IT JUST LIKE, LET'S SAY IT WAS A FLAT ROOF, A SQUARE BUILDING, IS IT JUST A LITTLE MINI TOWER IN THE CENTER OF IT? SO 50%, 50%? UH, I BELIEVE THAT COULD BE A POSSIBILITY.
BUT IF YOU WERE TO BUILD LIKE A PUEBLA STYLE HOUSE, YOU SHOULDN'T, BUT THAT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE.
BUT IF YOU WERE, WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE IS YOU WOULD APPROXIMATELY HAVE, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD HAVE TWO FLOORS POTENTIALLY STRAIGHT UP AND THEN IN, AND THEN 50% OF THAT AREA WHICH SHOULD COME OUT, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY QUARTER, HALF QUARTER, UH, THAT COULD BE STANDING UP THERE.
ALTHOUGH YOU COULD NOT HAVE A DECK SURROUNDING IT, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE COMPLETELY UNUSABLE SPACE.
IS THE SECOND SCENARIO, WHICH IS ALSO THE TWO LEVELS.
BUT YOU CAN HAVE THE ONE TRIANGULAR DORMER WINDOW AS WELL.
BUT AGAIN, THE SAME BASIC PRINCIPLES OF, OF THE FIRST SCENARIO.
DORMERS WOULDN'T APPLY IN A FLAT ROOF SITUATION.
DORMERS WOULD NOT APPLY TO A FLAT ROOF SITUATION.
UH, BUT CHAIR SIPES COULD ADDRESS THAT
UM, SO MR. S WELL IS THERE A REASON FOR THE NON, UM, CONDITION SPACE THAT 50% IS CANNOT BE REASONABLE? YES.
AND, AND THAT WAS THE, THE TOPIC OF A GREAT DEAL OF DISCUSSION AS WE CONSIDERED THESE AMENDMENTS OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS.
SO WE'RE NOT GONNA GO INTO THAT NOW 'CAUSE I, I COULD NOT DO IT JUSTICE AND IT WAS A LOT.
STAFF, I GUESS BACK TO YOU FOR, I THINK WHAT'S GONNA BE MY FINAL QUESTION BEFORE I TURN IT OVER AND THEN POSSIBLY GO TO DISCUSSION, WHICH IS, IF WE WERE, AND I'M NOT SURE I WANT TO YET, BUT IF WE WERE TO LIMIT IT TO THREE STORIES IN I D Z TWO, IS THAT POSSIBLE BY ADDING THAT TO THE SITE PLAN? YES.
I THINK THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS FOR RIGHT NOW.
UM, ANY, ANY QUESTIONS FROM FELLOW COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? NO COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.
BACK TO YOU COMMISSIONER BUSANTE FOR DISCUSSION AND A POSSIBLE MOTION.
ALRIGHT, MR. SANTO, I, I'M SORRY TO DO THIS 'CAUSE I, I DO WANT TO THINK ABOUT THIS.
I, I AGREE WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION THAT FOUR STORIES IS TOO MUCH IN THIS AREA.
UM, BUT RATHER THAN SORT OF GO HALF COCKED ON A THREE STORY PROPOSAL AND LIMIT YOU TO THAT, UH, I WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER A CONTINUANCE AT THIS TIME.
WOULD THAT BE APPROPRIATE FOR TWO WEEKS SO WE CAN, IF WE CAN DO THREE STORIES AND MAYBE WE CAN DO THAT.
SO A CONTINUANCE TO DISCUSS THE THREE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
SOMEONE CAN GIVE YOU MY NUMBER OR EMAIL.
UM, ALRIGHT, SO IN THAT CASE, THAT MAKES IT MUCH EASIER.
UM, I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO APRIL 4TH, 2023.
WAS THAT YOU COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? SORRY, I WAS, OH, KAMATH.
I WAS LOOKING DOWN AT THE MICROPHONE UNFORTUNATELY.
ALRIGHT, MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE TO THE APRIL 4TH MEETING.
UM, MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE.
THE SECOND WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER KAMATH.
UM, MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
IF WE COULD HAVE STAFF'S PRESENTATION AND BETA'S ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS LOCATED AT 3 9 1 5 FLAGEL STREET AND IS A REQUEST TO GO FROM R SIX TO I D Z ONE WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
THERE WERE 21 NOTICES MAILED WITH ZERO RETURN IN FAVOR, ONE RETURN IN OPPOSITION.
MEMORIAL HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED AND OUTSIDE 200 FEET, THERE WERE FOUR IN OPPOSITION.
STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE NEIGHBORING LANDS.
IN RELATION TO THE ZONING STATE CHANGE REQUEST.
THE CURRENT R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED I D Z ONE LIMITED INTENSITY AND FIELD DEVELOPMENT ZONE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR 37 UNITS IS ALSO APPROPRIATE FOR THE
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PROPERTY GIVEN ITS SIZE AND PLACEMENT WITHIN THE AREA ADJACENT TO A SCHOOL.IF THE PROPERTY WERE DEVELOPED AS AN R SIX SUBDIVISION, THERE COULD BE A POTENTIAL OF 50 UNITS CONSTRUCTED ON THE PROPERTY.
THE PROPOSED ID Z ONE LIMITS THE DENSITY AND DESIGN TO A SUBMITTED SITE PLAN.
THE IDZ ONE ALSO RESTRICTS, RESTRICTS THE HEIGHT OF THE UNITS TO TWO AND A HALF STORIES AND 35 FEET.
THE PROPOSED REZONING IS ALSO ALIGNED WITH THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, WHICH ENCOURAGES DIVERSIFIED HOUSING TYPES TO MEET THE GROWING HOUSING NEEDS OF THE CITY AT ALL INCOME LEVELS.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE.
GOOD AFTERNOON FOR THE RECORD.
MY NAME IS MITSUKO RAMOS WITH GOVERNMENT RELATIONS GROUP OF TEXAS.
I REPRESENT THE PROPERTY OWNER, VERGE PRODUCTIONS, L L C, AND THE OWNER IS RAFAEL MAREL AT 39 1 5 FLAGEL STREET.
UM, THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE R SIX RESIDENTIAL, UH, LOT TO I D Z ONE TO ALLOW A MAXIMUM OF 37 DWELLING UNITS, A CHURCH AND A COMMUNITY CENTER.
UM, THE PROPERTY OWNER AS I INTRODUCED HIM IS, UH, RAFAEL MAREL.
HE IS A NATIVE SAN ANTONIO AND, UM, HAS A FAMILY AND, AND HIS, UH, MAIN GOAL IS TO DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY.
UM, I WAS RETAINED, UM, IN 2019 SHORTLY AFTER HE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY IN 2018.
AND SO WE IMMEDIATELY REACHED OUT TO MEMORIAL HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IN 2019.
UM, IT IS MY PERSONAL POLICY BEFORE THE U D C WAS CHANGED TO REACH OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS BEFORE FILING A ZONING APPLICATION.
SO, UM, HE IS MY, UH, AWARD WINNER OF THE CLIENT WHO HAS WAITED THE LONGEST TO FILE AN APPLICATION AND HAS BEEN, UH, MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS SINCE 2019.
UM, THE ARCHITECT IS MR. MARCELO MARTINEZ.
HE'S A FORMER PLANNING COMMISSIONER AND HE'S WORKED REALLY HARD TO CHANGE THE SITE PLAN PROBABLY, UH, UH, AT LEAST SEVEN TIMES.
UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, HE ALSO HAS A, SHARES THE SAME GOAL OF DOING WHAT'S BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY.
THE LOT CURRENTLY IS, IT'S A VACANT 3.485 ACRE, UH, LOT.
AND RIGHT NOW THERE'S A FREQUENT ILLEGAL DUMPING AND IT ABUTS, UM, A CREEK.
UH, AND THERE ARE SEVERAL HOMELESS PEOPLE WHO HAVE ENCAMPMENTS BACK THERE AND, AND A LOT OF, UH, UM, DRUG USE THAT GOES ON AND IT'S RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO ROOSEVELT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, WHICH, UM, KIND OF POSES A SAFETY HAZARD IN THAT AREA.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, ON THE LEFT IS THE SAWS PLANT.
AND ON THE RIGHT, UM, YOU'LL SEE THE ROOSEVELT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND TO THE SOUTH IS MEMORIAL HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD.
AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE, UM, LITTLE NOTATION OF WHERE ROOSEVELT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE VACANT LOT.
UM, YOU CAN ALSO SEE WHERE THE SIDEWALK WILL BE IMPROVED WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT OCCURS.
YOU'LL SEE A BETTER, BETTER, UH, DEPICTION OF WHAT'S AROUND.
UM, AT THE END OF FLAGAL STREET, UM, TO THE WEST YOU'LL SEE DUPLEX APARTMENTS, UM, AGAIN, ROOSEVELT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
THE REAR ENTRANCE YOU SEE IN THAT TOP LEFT PICTURE, UM, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE TO THE SOUTH.
AND THE SAW SUBSTATION IS, IS TO THE WEST.
AND THAT'S JUST ANOTHER, UH, ILLUSTRATION OF THAT.
UM, THE I D Z ZONING, UM, OFFERS THE FLEXIBLE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT'S REQUIRED FOR THIS LOT.
THE LOT SUFFERS SEVERAL HARDSHIPS THAT ARE CAUSED BY A SURROUNDING FLOOD ZONE.
UM, WE HAVE, UM, SINCE 2019 AND I PULLED UP IN OLD FILES.
UM, WE HAVE TRIED VERY HARD TO, UM, YOU KNOW, SEE WHAT WE COULD DO AT THIS LOT.
THESE ARE MY OWN PROFESSIONAL DRAWINGS, UM, TO SHOW MAYBE WHAT WE COULD DO.
UM, WE'VE COME UP WITH SEVERAL IDEAS, EVEN TRY TO, UM, COME UP WITH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE EVEN JUST BUILDING JUST A FEW HOMES.
BUT, UM, IT'S FINANCIALLY UNFEASIBLE TO DO SO.
AND TRYING TO, UH, BUILD A STREET, UM, THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE WITHOUT THE I D Z UM, ZONING.
SO WE'VE COME UP WITH SEVERAL, UM, OPTIONS TO TRY TO MAKE THIS WORK.
AND WITH THE HELP OF MARCELO, UM,
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WE'VE COME UP WITH, UH, A FEW DIFFERENT OPTIONS.THE FIRST OPTION THAT WE CAME UP WITH, UM, AND WE MET WITH, UH, MEMORIAL HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE CAME UP WITH THE SITE PLAN FOR DUPLEXES.
AND DURING THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETING, THEY HAD EXPRESSED, UM, OPPOSITION TO DUPLEXES, WHICH WE, WE COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND SINCE THERE ARE DUPLEXES AT THE END OF THE STREET THAT ARE NOT MAINTAINED.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTY OWNER HAD AGREED TO NOT DO DUPLEXES.
UM, AND THEN WE CAME UP WITH A SECOND SITE PLAN, WHICH IS THIS ONE WHERE WE THOUGHT ABOUT DOING, UH, TOWN HOMES.
UM, IN THE END, UH, WE HAD SOME BLOCK WALKING DONE BY A CONSULTANT, MR. ANDREW TEJEDA, UM, AND RECEIVED SOME INPUT FROM RESIDENTS WITHIN 200 FEET WHO, UH, DESIRED SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
AND THAT'S THE SITE PLAN THAT YOU SEE NOW.
UM, THERE WAS ALSO SOME, UM, SADNESS EXPRESSED THAT SOME PEOPLE WERE USING THE, UH, VACANT LOT AS A PARK AND THEY WANTED TO HAVE A PLACE TO GO TO.
SO, UM, AN IDEA CAME UP AT OUR LAST MEETING IN, UM, MARCH OF 2022, WHERE SOMEONE SUGGESTED A A COMMUNITY CENTER.
AND THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE A NEW COMMUNITY CENTER ON THE, UH, LATEST SITE PLAN.
SO, UH, THE LATEST SITE PLAN, UH, REDUCED THE NUMBER OF HOMES FROM 45 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES TO 37 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES TO MAKE ROOM FOR A COMMUNITY CENTER OR A RECREATION CENTER, RATHER THAT, UM, THE MEMORIAL HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTS AND THE COMMUNITY IN GENERAL CAN, CAN ENJOY.
OR MAYBE IT'S THE CURRENT SLIDE.
I'M NOT SURE'S THE ONE BEFORE THAT.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THE HARDSHIPS SHOW THE SURROUNDING, UH, FLOODPLAIN AROUND THE LOT, AND THAT IS WHY WE'LL HAVE, UM, SINGLE ACCESS ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE LOT.
NORMALLY A LOT LIKE THAT WOULD HAVE TWO ACCESS POINTS, UM, WHICH IS WHY WE NEED THE I D Z ZONING.
AS YOU ARE AWARE, THE I D Z ALLOWS FOR FLEXIBLE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, WHICH WILL ALLOW US TO HAVE, UM, THE DESIGN THAT YOU SEE ON THE SITE PLAN, EMERGENCY ACCESS.
WE'LL BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE PROPERTY AND DO THE LOOP AROUND.
UM, WE ALSO PLAN ON REQUESTING A STOP SIGN THAT WILL MANAGE THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC ON FLAGAL STREET.
UM, IT WILL ALSO ALLOW FOR FLEXIBLE, UM, LOT SIZES AND DIMENSIONS, UM, SO THAT WE CAN, UM, YOU KNOW, ADEQUATELY PUT THE, THE HOUSES IN CERTAIN, UM, AREAS ON THE LOT AND ALSO ALLOW FOR THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND A CHURCH.
UM, THIS SLIDE SHOWS THAT THE IDZ ONE ZONING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE, UH, STATEMENT OF PURPOSE FOR INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE.
UM, THIS LOT HAS BEEN VACANT FOR QUITE A WHILE.
UM, IT DOES, UH, POSE A LIFE AND SAFETY RISK.
THERE ARE, AS I SAID, ENCAMPMENTS, THERE'S, UM, QUITE A FEW INSTANCES OF, UH, DRUG USE ON THE PROPERTY.
RAPHAEL HAS HAD TO, UM, YOU KNOW, MAKE SEVERAL TRIPS WITH PROFESSIONALS TO CLEAN OUT THE PROPERTY.
THERE'S A LOT OF ILLEGAL DUMPING.
UM, THE RESIDENTS HAVE EXPRESSED CONCERN WITH THIS AND, AND HE'S DOING HIS BEST TO TRY TO, UM, MANAGE THAT.
BUT WE DO KNOW THAT IF THE INFILL, UM, IF, IF THERE IS INFILL DEVELOPMENT, THAT THAT WILL, UM, TAKE CARE OF THAT PROBLEM.
AND ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST PROVIDE A SAFE PLACE FOR THE RESIDENTS ALSO TO ENJOY WITH THE, UH, RECREATION CENTER.
AND THIS JUST FURTHER SUPPORTS THE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THIS IS JUST ANOTHER SLIDE SHOWING WHERE THE PROPERTY IS.
UM, THIS JUST IMPOSES A SITE PLAN.
IT'S, IT'S REALLY NOT TO SCALE, SO IT LOOKS A LOT TINIER THAN IT IS, BUT THESE ARE TWO STORY HOMES.
THE HOMES ARE APPROXIMATELY 400 SQUARE FEET IN LIVING SPACE.
SINCE IT IS TWO STORY, THE FOOTPRINT IS 700 SQUARE FEET ON APPROXIMATELY 2,160 SQUARE FOOT LOTS.
UM, WE DID DO A STUDY OF THE, UM, THE, UH, LIVING SPACE OF THE HOMES THAT ARE ON ALLSUP AS WELL AS, AS WELL AS, UM, UH, COLLEGE LA GLORIA STREET, WHICH ARE THE TWO STREETS RIGHT THERE NEXT TO, UM, THAT ARE OFF OF FLAGAL STREET.
AND, UM, THE AVERAGE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS APPROXIMATELY 1200 SQUARE FEET.
THE SMALLEST HOME IS A LITTLE OVER 800 SQUARE FEET, AND THE LARGEST HOME IS APPROXIMATELY 1800 SQUARE FEET.
THIS IS ONE OF THE RENDERINGS THAT,
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UM, RAFAEL HAD PROPOSED.UM, YOU KNOW, JUST AS AN IDEA, WE HAVE REQUESTED INPUT FROM THE RESIDENTS AND MEMORIAL HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ON WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
UM, WE DO WANT TO HAVE THE DESIGN OF THE HOMES TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THERE ARE SEVERAL DESIGNS OF HOMES IN THE AREA.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SIDING, UM, GOES FROM LEFT TO RIGHT AND THE, UH, ROOF ON THE AWNING OVER THE FRONT DOOR.
IF IT WAS MORE OF LIKE A V DESIGN, IT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE V DESIGN OF THE ONE STORY HOMES.
UM, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, UM, THAT TYPICAL TYPE OF DESIGN KIND OF FITS IN.
UM, IF THE RESIDENTS AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WANTS TO SEE SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, WE'RE OPEN TO THAT AS WELL.
UM, AS FAR AS THE TWO STORY, UM, WE BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVING A VARIETY OF, UH, DESIGN WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE AREA.
RIGHT NOW, ALL THE HOMES IN THE AREA ARE ONE STORY AND, YOU KNOW, PRO PROVIDING AN OPTION FOR A NEW HOME BUYERS TO HAVE, UH, TWO STORY WOULD, WOULD, WOULD GIVE THEM AN OPTION.
THAT'S KIND OF THE TIME, BUT, UM, WE CAN CALL YOU BACK UP HERE FOR OKAY.
UM, DID WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? YES SIR.
WE HAVE SOME VOICEMAILS AND, UH, SOME INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE.
UM, ANDREW, HI, MY, WE DOING SPEAKERS FIRST OR VOICEMAILS? UH, WE'LL HAVE THE SPEAKERS FIRST.
I'M WITH, UH, TEJEDA CONSULTANTS AND, UH, I WAS RETAINED BY A CLIENT TO GO AHEAD AND BLOCK WALK AND JUST GET A GENERAL TEMPERATURE OF WHAT THE RESIDENTS FELT AND WHAT THEY WANTED.
UH, WITH RESPECT TO THE PROPERTY ON, UH, FAGEL STREET.
SO THIS WAS IN DECEMBER OF, UH, 2021.
UH, OVERWHELMINGLY EVERYONE WAS HAPPY TO, THAT SOMEONE WAS GOING TO GO AHEAD AND DEVELOP IT, UM, BECAUSE OF THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED, UM, DUMPING, UM, HOMELESSNESS, DRUG USE AND ALL THAT.
SO THEY WANTED SOMETHING DEVELOPED THERE THAT WOULD KIND OF, YOU KNOW, COUNTER THAT FIX THAT.
UM, THEY WANTED SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
UH, THEY WERE CONCERNED OBVIOUSLY WITH THE, THERE WERE SOME DUPLEXES, UH, FURTHER DOWN, UM, THAT WERE DILAPIDATED SO THEY WOULD PREFERRED SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
SO WITH ALL THE INFORMATION THAT I HAD RECEIVED, THEY HAD, AS YOU KNOW, WENT BACK, UM, DESIGNED THAT, UH, WITH A COMMUNITY COMMUNITY CENTER IN IN MIND.
UH, I THINK A TOTAL, I'VE GOT, UH, I THINK OVER FIVE, UH, POSITIVE FORMS THAT WERE SIGNED IN SUPPORT OF THAT.
SO MY EXPERIENCE WAS, UH, VERY, VERY POSITIVE AND OVERWHELMINGLY POSITIVE ON THAT THEY WERE, THEY WERE HAPPY THAT SOMEBODY WAS ACTUALLY GOING OUT THERE TO INFORM THEM, UH, WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH THE PROPERTY BECAUSE THEY HADN'T HEARD ANYTHING UP TO THAT POINT.
HI, HOW ARE YOU? I'M RAPHAEL MAREL.
I'M THE LANDOWNER, UH, THE OWNER OF FLAGGO STREET.
UM, OBVIOUSLY I SUPPORT THIS FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA BEHIND HERE, THE THOUGHT BEHIND HERE WAS, UM, WE'VE GOT A HOUSING ISSUE IN TOWN AND THIS IS A, A BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF PROPERTY RIGHT IN THE CENTER OF THE WEST SIDE.
UM, FLANKED ON ONE SIDE BY THE MASSAGE WATER TOWER OPPORTUNITY ON THE OTHER TO WALK YOUR KIDS TO SCHOOL AND JUST KIND OF BE THERE.
AND SO WHY NOT MAXIMIZE THE OPPORTUNITY AT A TIME TO WHERE WE NEED THAT? UM, A CHURCH IDEA IS I'M, I'M A CHRISTIAN AND I'D LOVE TO SEE A, A CHRISTIAN CHURCH ALSO BE THE CENTERPIECE, UM, IF, IF THAT IS, UM, OKAY WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT, UH, THE ORIGINAL IDEA WAS.
AND IN THAT CENTERPIECE IT COULD, IT COULD PLAY AS A HUB TO, YOU KNOW, EITHER FOOD DRIVES OR CLOTHING DRIVES OR, OR WHATEVER THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS.
AND SO THAT WAS THE TRUE INTENT BEHIND THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT PROPERTY.
SIR, COULD WE PLEASE THE VOICE MESSAGES BEFORE I, I GO UP THERE? ALL RIGHT.
UH, THE LAST ARE ARE, DID YOU LEAVE A VOICEMAIL AS WELL, SIR? NO, MA'AM, I DID NOT.
AND I KNOW THERE WAS FIVE VOICE MESSAGES.
WILL LISTEN TO THE VOICEMAILS.
HI, MY NAME IS ALICE UNA AND MY TELEPHONE NUMBER IS (210) 434-8206.
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MY ADDRESS IS 3 2 7 ALSUP, A L L SS U P.I AM CALLING IN OPPOSITION OF THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST FOR, UM, CASE NUMBER Z DASH 2023 DASH 1 0 7 0 0 1 3.
I AM OPPOSED DUE TO THE FACT THAT, UM, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, OUR ZONE FOR R SIX AND THIS DOES NOT, UM, THIS DOES, THIS DOES NOT FIT WITH THE CHARACTER OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND SO, UM, CHANGING IT FROM R SIX TO AN I D Z UM, DASH ONE WOULD NOT BE, UH, APPROPRIATE AT THIS TIME FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
THANK YOU FOR THE CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO THIS MATTER.
I LIVE AT 3 1 4 ROOSEVELT, R O SS A B E L L.
UH, MY NUMBER IS TWO TEN THREE THREE TWO EIGHT ZERO NINE THREE.
I'M A MEMBER OF THE MEMORIAL HEIGHTS, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND I'M CALLING ABOUT THE PROPERTY AT 3 9 1 5 AL ZONING NUMBER Z 20 23 1 0 7 0 0 0 1 3.
UM, I AM AGAINST CHANGING THE ZONING FOR THIS AREA TO DEVELOP, UH, MULTI-HOUSING, SINGLE UNITS, MULTI-HOUSING.
UH, IT IS JUST GOING TO BE TOO OVERCROWDED FOR THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT THEY'RE PLANNING ON BUILDING.
UH, THEY LOOK MORE LIKE APARTMENTS.
THERE'S ONLY ONE SMALL STREET THAT GOES IN AND OUT OF THAT AREA.
THERE'S A SCHOOL THERE AND THERE'S ALREADY TOO MUCH TRAFFIC TO ALLOW SO MUCH, UH, SO MANY HOMES TO BE DEVELOPED THERE.
UH, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM FOR PARKING SO MANY HOUSES.
UH, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A COMMUNITY CENTER.
UH, THE CONCERNS ARE, ARE COMMUNITY CENTER OVER OPEN FOR EVERYONE OR NOT.
UM, ANOTHER REASON IS THAT THESE HOMES WOULD INCREASE PROPERTY TAXES FOR THE, FOR THE NEIGHBORS IN THAT AREA WHO ALREADY STRUGGLED TO PAY THEIR PROPERTY TAXES.
AND THIS IS VERY UNFAIR TO THEM.
UM, LASTLY, THESE HOMES BE BUILT IN A FLOOD ZONE AND AGAIN, THAT WILL CAUSE PROBLEMS WITH, UH, FLOODING ISSUES IN THE AREA.
UM, ONCE AGAIN, I AM AGAINST CHANGING THE ZONING FOR THIS AREA FROM RESIDENTIAL TO DEVELOPMENT FOR MULTI-HOUSING UNITS.
I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO ZONING CASE 2 0 0 3 0 13 ON FLAGGO STREET.
AND I WANT TO PUT MY VOTE AS KNOWN FOR THE ZONING CHANGE.
UH, YES, MY NAME IS ROSIE GARCIA.
UM, I RESIDED 1 6 6 TEST DRIVE SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS SEVEN EIGHT TWO TWO EIGHT.
UM, MY PHONE NUMBER IS TWO TEN FOUR THREE FIVE TWO TWO NINE SEVEN.
I AM CALLING IN REGARDS TO THIS, UM, ZONING COMMISSION HEARING.
UM, THE CASE IS, UM, Z TWENTY TWENTY THREE TEN SEVEN ZERO ZERO ZERO ONE THREE, UM, HAVING TO DO WITH THE, THE REZONING AND THESE, UM, UM, HOUSES OR HOMES THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO, TO BUILD IN THE INTERSECTION.
UM, THERE AT ON FLAGGO ON FLAGGO STREET, WHICH IS IS A BLOCK.
UM, THERE'S A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH THAT.
37 HOMES IS JUST TOO MANY HOMES FOR THAT AREA.
UM, THE TRAFFIC WOULD BE TREMENDOUS.
I MEAN, YOU HAVE YOUR SCHOOL ZONE THERE, PARENTS ARE DROPPING AND PICKING UP AND IT, IT'S A NIGHTMARE.
IF YOU'VE EVER SEEN IT IN THE MORNING AND WHEN THE SCHOOL IS ON IT, IT'S A NIGHTMARE.
IT'S ONLY, YOU CAN ONLY GO EITHER ONE, ONE WAY OR THE OTHER AND IT'S GONNA BE JUST, UH, TERRIBLE HAVING THAT.
I MEAN, THERE COULD BE AN ACCIDENT, IT'S LIKE AN ACCIDENT WAITING TO HAPPEN.
AND ALSO IT'S, IT'S ON A FLOOD ZONE THERE.
IT, IT'S JUST IT THAT GETS ALL FLOODED OUT.
IT'S JUST, IT, IT'S JUST LIKE, I, I JUST THINK IT'S GONNA BE TOTAL CHAOS THERE AND I DON'T REALLY THINK IT'S GONNA BE MONITORED IN ANY WAY.
AND THIS IS THE ENTRANCE AND THE OUT, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THE FRONT AND THEY HAVE THE BACK, BUT THEY'RE BOTH NEEDED.
AND I JUST THINK IT'S JUST GONNA BE A LOT GOING ON THERE.
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HI, MY NAME IS STEPHANIE AIA AND I'M CALLING REGARDING ZONING CASE Z 20 23 1 0 7 0 0 0 1 3 AT 39 15 FLAGGO.UM, I WAS CALLING TO GIVE MY OPPOSITION AND A VOTE AGAINST THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST, UM, DUE TO THE TRAFFIC THAT IT WOULD CAUSE ON THE ONE BLOCK, ON THE ONE BLOCK OF THE ONE BLOCK EXISTING BLOCK OF FLAGGO.
UM, AND UM, MY NAME IS STEPHANIE AQUINA, UM, AND I'M A 3 2 6 SUP STREET.
ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD GO BACK TO THE SPEAKERS PLEASE.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MS. COMMISSIONERS.
RICHARD GARCIA, UH, ADDRESS 1 6 6 TESLA DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 2 8.
UH, WHAT ELSE? WHAT ELSE CAN I ADD? I MEAN, YOU HEARD IT ALL.
ONE OF THE COMMON, COMMON DENOMINATORS IS THE TRAFFIC.
THEY'RE VERY, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA.
AND I WOULD CHALLENGE THE ZONING COMMISSIONERS FOR DISTRICT FIVE.
GO OUT THERE ON A, ON A WEEKDAY WHEN SCHOOLS IS THERE AT EIGHT O'CLOCK OR GET THERE BEFORE SEVEN 15 AND SEE HOW THE TRAFFIC TRAFFIC IS.
IF YOU THINK IT'S BAD ON BANDERA AND, AND, AND FOUR 10 OR 1604, IT'S A LOT WORSE.
AND BY ADDING 37 MORE HOMES TO THIS AREA, IT'S JUST GONNA BE A NIGHTMARE.
AND YOU HEARD THAT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE A NIGHTMARE.
AND THEY'RE, UH, THAT'S ONE OF THE COMMON DENOMINATORS.
AND I KNOW THEY'RE SAYING, OH YES, WE'RE GONNA WALK 'EM TO SCHOOL.
REALLY? YOU THINK THEY'RE GONNA WALK 'EM TO SCHOOL? JUST LIKE YOU SEE KI UH, PARENTS TAKING, UH, WHEN THEY GO TO THE GAS STATION, THEY GIVE THE KIDS THE MONEY AND THEY GO AND FILL UP THEIR VEHICLES, YOU KNOW, GIVE TO GIVE IT TO THE CLERK.
YOU THINK ON A COLD, RAINY DAY THEY'RE GONNA WALK 'EM TO SCHOOL.
REALLY? COME ON, LET'S GET SERIOUS ABOUT THIS.
SO WE'RE ADAMANTLY OPPOSED THIS AND WE'RE ADAMANT, WE, WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH OUR COUNCIL PERSON AND WE, THE CONSTITUENTS, WE, WE, THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, WE THE WE, THE PEOPLE THAT REGISTERED VOTERS HAVE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH OUR COUNCIL PERSON, UH, FOR YEARS NOW REGARDING THIS.
AND WE'RE, WE'RE OPPOSED TO IT.
37 HOMES IS JUST WAY TOO, TOO, TOO MANY HOMES.
UH, IT, IT IS, IT'S GONNA CLOSE.
CAUSE A LOT OVERCROWDING AND WE'RE ADAMANTLY AGAINST IT AND THERE'S NO WAY THEY WERE GONNA GO.
AND ALSO WHAT THEY FAILED TO TELL YOU THAT WAY BACK IN DECEMBER OF 2020, UH, RIGHT BEFORE THE CHRISTMAS HOLIDAYS, SOMEONE FROM THIS GROUP, I DON'T KNOW WHO IT WAS, BUT THEY, THEY WERE NICE ENOUGH TO GO TO THE, WITHIN THE 200 FEET AND BRING THEM HOT CHOCOLATE AND ULCE AND ASKING THEM TO SIGN A PETITION SUPPORTING THIS.
AND THE COUNCILWOMAN KNOWS ABOUT THIS AND HOW THE, THE UNETHICAL PRACTICES.
SO WE'RE KIND OF VERY, VERY LEERY IN WORKING WITH THEM.
I MEAN, WE JUSTICE'S WAY I'M SAYING I'M, I MYSELF, I'M A MEMBER, I'M A RESIDENT AND I'LL SUPPORT AND I STRONGLY ADVOCATE AND WE'RE TOTALLY, TOTALLY OPPOSED.
SO ANYWAY, JUST WANNA JUST TO MENTION THAT TO YOU.
THAT'S HOW, ALRIGHT, IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE YOU HAVE A CHANCE FOR A REBUTTAL, YOU WOULD HAVE A CHANCE TO ADDRESS THOSE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE.
SHE DOESN'T, SHE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT UL IS.
WE, I I DID GIVE HIM, UH, SOME SMALL BAGS WITH COCOA BECAUSE IT WAS CHRISTMAS, UM, JUST AS A GESTURE OF WHAT WAS GOING ON AND LET HIM KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH THE PROJECT.
BUT THERE WAS, THERE WAS NO
UM, WITH, WITH RESPECT TO CONCERN.
THE SCHOOL IS CLOSE, IT IS LITERALLY NEXT DOOR TO THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR.
SO I UNDERSTAND IF HE'S SAYING IT'S RAINING, I MEAN MOST PARENTS ARE GONNA WANT TO WALK THEIR CHILDREN.
I DON'T SEE THEM GOING IN THEIR CAR TRYING TO GET IT INTO TRAFFIC WITH ANY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
IF YOU'VE BEEN A PARENT, THIS IS A PROBLEM FOR EVERY SCHOOL.
NO PARENT WANTS TO BE IN THERE FOR 45 MINUTES.
SO THIS IS NOTHING EXTRA OR NEW.
UH, THIS IS AN ONGOING PROBLEM THAT NO ONE'S BEEN ABLE TO SOLVE IN THE WORLD.
I THINK TO TO THIS POINT, THE PARENT PICKUP AND DROP OFF IS JUST STRENUOUS IF, IF YOU'VE GOT CHILDREN.
UM, BUT I DO THINK THAT THEY WOULD WALK IT SINCE IT'S REALLY NEXT DOOR, UNLESS IT'S RAINING AND COLD EVERY DAY.
SO THE ARGUMENT WAS CONFOUNDING TO ME ON THAT.
I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO, TO MITSUKO.
I JUST WANTED TO GIVE MY PERSONAL NOTES ON THAT.
YEAH, I WAS JUST, I WAS ACTUALLY WITH ANDREW THAT DAY WHEN WE HANDED OUT, UH, LITTLE CHRISTMAS BAGS WITH THE CANDY AND STUFF.
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UM, FOR, UM, THE TRAFFIC ISSUE.UM, RIGHT NOW THE, I JUST WANTED TO REMIND ZONING, COMMISSIONER, I'M SURE YOU ALREADY KNOW THIS, BUT R SIX DOES ALREADY ALLOW FOR, UH, DEVELOPMENT OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
SO IT'S, IT'S NOT THAT, YOU KNOW, CITY STAFF AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, THEY ALREADY DID THEIR HOMEWORK AND TRAFFIC AND FIRE.
THEY ALREADY DID THEIR HOMEWORK WITH THEIR PLANNING TO SEE IF THIS LOT WAS SAFE AND, AND APPROPRIATE FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOME DEVELOPMENT.
SO THE, THE ISSUE ISN'T WHETHER OR NOT IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION.
UM, AND TRAFFIC IS, IS NOT AN ISSUE IN REGARDS TO THIS.
IT, IT'S, IT'S, THAT'S NOT THE PROBLEM.
AND THE ACTUAL LOT IS NOT WITHIN A FLOOD ZONE.
UM, IT'S JUST THAT THE, WE JUST WANT THE I D Z, UM, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THE FLEXIBLE STANDARDS FOR THE STREET.
THE HARDSHIP IS THAT INSTEAD OF TWO ACCESS POINTS, WE HAVE ONE THE, ON ONE OF THE SLIDES.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU, YOU HAVE IT.
UM, I THINK IT'S THE ONE WHERE YOU SHOW THE FLOOD ZONE SURROUNDING THE LOT.
YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE, THE, UH, LOT IS RAISED AND THERE IS A, THERE IS A DRAINAGE RIGHT THERE.
YOU CAN SEE THE DRAIN THAT THE CITY PUT IN, UM, FOR, TO, TO MANAGE THE, THE, UH, WATER.
SO YOU CAN'T PUT IN A, A DRIVEWAY THERE.
SO, UM, SO IT'S ALREADY GOING TO BE DEVELOPED WHETHER IT'S I D Z OR NOT.
SO THAT THAT, THAT I'VE, I'VE TOLD MINERAL HEIGHTS IF, IF THEY NEED TO GET ASSURANCE FROM THE CITY THAT IT'S SAFE TO DEVELOP, THEY CAN SPEAK TO THE CITY OFFICIALS ON THAT.
ALRIGHT, DISTRICT FIVE CASE COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE.
ALRIGHT, WE'RE GONNA START WITH STAFF.
REMIND ME, WHAT IS THE CURRENT ZONING ON THIS PROPERTY? R SIX.
AND THAT ALLOWS FOR 50 UNITS WAS STATED IN THE STAFF'S REPORT, CORRECT? YES SIR.
LET'S ASSUME THAT YOU MAYBE HAVE TO TAKE OUT 20% FOR, UH, BASIC UTILITIES, DRIVE, YOU KNOW, STREET, EVERYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT, THAT ENDS UP WITH 40, CORRECT? APPROXIMATELY.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT APPROXIMATELY 40 UNITS RIGHT NOW.
UM, ALRIGHT, WITH RESPECT TO FLOODING AND MITIGATION OF FLOODING AND STEPS THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN BY A DEVELOPMENT, HOW ARE THOSE TREATED BY THE CITY? THEY GO THROUGH A STORM WATER REVIEW AND SO YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO HAVE UN FLOODED ACCESS AND YOU WILL HAVE TO MITIGATE ANY, UM, FLOODING CONCERNS OR STORM WATER CONCERNS PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF YOUR PERMIT.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, IF SOMETHING YOU'RE GONNA BUILD WOULD INCREASE THE FLOODING ON ANY NEIGHBORING PROPERTY, YOU WOULD HAVE TO MITIGATE THAT, YOU WOULD'VE TO ADDRESS THAT? YES SIR.
BEFORE YOU WERE GIVING A PERMIT? YES.
UH, MR. RAMOS TO YOU PLEASE? YES SIR.
SO TELL ME ABOUT THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND THE CHURCH.
CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT? YES.
UM, RIGHT NOW THE R SIX ALLOWS FOR A COMMUNITY CENTER AND A CHURCH.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, IT CAN ALREADY BE BUILT IN THAT ZONING.
UM, THE COMMUNITY CENTER WAS AT THE REQUEST OF THE MEMORIAL HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEMBERS DURING OUR LAST FEW MEETINGS.
AND SO, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE HAPPY TO PROVIDE SO THEY CAN HAVE A PLACE TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE FUN.
IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT A, THIS IS ONE OF THE WRITTEN RESPONSES THAT I PROVIDED TO THEM LAST WEEK, JUST TO REMIND THEM, UM, SINCE, UM, MR. RICHARD GARCIA IS NO LONGER THE PRESIDENT OF THE ASSOCIATION, A NEW PRESIDENT WAS ELECTED, UM, HE HAD SOME NEW QUESTIONS.
I WANTED TO REMIND HIM OF THAT THE COMMUNITY CENTER OR THE RECREATION CENTER RATHER IS NOT A PRIVATE CLUB OF THE NEW SUBDIVISION.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S THERE FOR ANYONE TO ENJOY.
SO, UM, AND I GUESS THAT BRINGS UP ANOTHER QUESTION.
UM, YOU KNOW, IS THIS GOING TO BE GATED THIS AREA? YEAH.
IS THAT THE PLAN? NO, SUBJECT TO, UH, H O A, UH, WE HAD TOLD M H N A, UH, MINERAL HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, THEY WERE AFRAID THAT THE NEW PROPERTY OWNERS WOULD NOT MAINTAIN THEIR YARDS.
THEY WERE AFRAID THAT THEY WOULD LEAVE TRASH OUT, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO WE TOLD THEM THAT IF THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT,
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IF THEY WANTED TO SUPPORT OUR CASE, THAT OUR, UM, THAT RAFAEL WOULD BE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN AN H O A THAT WOULD REQUIRE DUES, THAT WOULD PAY FOR A PROPERTY MANAGER TO MAINTAIN THE COMMON YARDS SPACE AND ALSO MAKE SURE THAT THE TRASH WAS PICKED UP SO THAT THERE WOULD BE NO CONCERN WITH, YOU KNOW, UH, YARD MAINTENANCE OR TRASH.UM, BUT THAT WOULD NOT BE GOING TOWARDS, UM, ACCESS TOWARDS THE COMMUNITY CENTER.
AND THAT WAS, UH, ONE OF THE WRITTEN RESPONSES I PROVIDED TO THEM LAST WEEK.
WELL, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CHURCH AND COMMUNITY CENTER, WE COULD POTENTIALLY EXPLORE SOME OTHER OPTIONS.
I KNOW YOU'VE GONE THROUGH A LOT OF WORK HERE.
I THINK, UM, AND SOME OTHER ISSUES HERE THAT MIGHT BE IMPORTANT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, DO YOU THINK MOVE THE INGRESS EGRESS, POTENTIALLY DOUBLE IT UP, DO SOMETHING ELSE.
IF WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT THAT ONE HARDSHIP, THAT ONE DRAIN THERE ON FLAGAL STREET, UH, AND WE WANT TO MAYBE EXPAND THE INGRESS EGRESS TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS MAYBE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
IS THAT SOMETHING WE COULD DO? I DON'T KNOW.
CAN YOU PUT THE, UM, WHEN, WHEN I MET WITH TRAFFIC AND UH, STAFF, THIS IS BACK IN 2019, 2020, I'M SORRY, THE ONE THAT SHOWS THE FLOOD, THE HARDSHIPS? YES.
UM, I WAS TOLD THAT, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER FOR US TO GET OUR UH, PERMIT, YOU CAN'T HAVE ACCESS, SAFE ACCESS THROUGH A FLOODPLAIN.
SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE HARDSHIP.
THE ONLY ACCESS WE HAVE IS THROUGH THE EXISTING CURB CUT THAT WE HAVE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
MAYBE THE BETTER WOULD BE AERIAL THAT SHOWS THIS ACTUALLY.
YEAH, IF YOU GET TO GOOGLE, THAT'LL WORK TOO THAT, SEE THAT EXISTING DRIVEWAY RIGHT THERE WHERE IT SAYS 3 9 1 5 FLAG STREET, THAT'S ACTUALLY AN EXISTING DRIVEWAY.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY AX, THAT'S THE ONLY AREA OF THE LOT THAT IS NOT THE FRONTAGE OF THE LOT.
IT'S THAT THAT WEST SIDE OF THE LOT.
THE OTHER FRONTAGE OF THE LOT IS THAT PART OF THE STREET OF PHIL FLAGAL IS IN A FLOODPLAIN.
SO WHENEVER IT RAINS, THAT'S THAT STREET.
AND EVEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAD EXPRESSED THIS LAST WEEK, THEY WANTED TO REMIND ME THAT WHEN IT RAINS THAT WHERE THAT WHITE CAR IS, IT, IT ACTUALLY HAS A LOT OF WATER.
AND THEY EVEN EXPRESSED TO ME LAST WEEK THAT SOMETIMES WATER GETS STUCK THERE OR FLOATS AWAY.
AND SO WHAT WE HAD TOLD THEM WAS MAYBE IF WE'RE ABLE TO DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY, WE COULD, UM, COORDINATE WITH THE CITY ON DOING SOMETHING TO HELP WITH THAT ISSUE ON THAT STREET.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN, UH, ALRIGHT.
YOU MAYBE HAVE A P P R MEETING.
I'M GONNA ASK ANOTHER QUESTION.
UH, AND THIS MIGHT BE MY LAST ONE DEPENDING.
UM, SO I, YOU KNOW, HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THIS CASE SINCE IT WAS ON THE AGENDA.
I HAVE NOT BEEN INVOLVED IN ANY OF THE DISCUSSIONS I WOULD LIKE TO BE.
'CAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE RIGHT NOW I'M STARTING TO NEGOTIATE WITH YOU FROM THE DAIS AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT MEMORIAL HEIGHTS WANTS.
WOULD YOU ACCEPT A ONE MONTH CONTINUANCE AND I WOULD LIKE TO MEET WITH Y'ALL AND MEMORIAL HEIGHTS.
I I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
AND, AND AS YOU ARE AWARE, UH, MR. BUSANTE, IT IS NORMALLY MY PRACTICE TO MAKE THE ZONING COMMISSIONERS AWARE OF MY CASES.
WELL BE BEFORE I COME TO ZONING COMMISSION.
IN THIS INSTANCE, I CHOSE NOT TO DO THAT BECAUSE I WANTED COMPLETE TRANSPARENCY IN FRONT OF MR. GARCIA SO THAT HE WOULD SEE MY FIRST CORRESPONDENCE WITH YOU IN, IN LIGHT OF TRANSPARENCY BECAUSE OF OUR PAST, UM, MEETINGS.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WHY THIS TIME I DIDN'T.
BUT YES, LET ME ASK THE PROPERTY OWNER, WE'VE WAITED FOR THREE AND A HALF, ALMOST FOUR YEARS.
SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO WAIT ONE MORE MONTH? HE WOULD BE HAPPY TO.
I, AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR INVOLVEMENT AND SUPPORT IN, UM, NEGOTIATING.
I, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY.
I I CAN'T GUARANTEE EVERYONE WILL BE HAPPY.
RIGHT? I CAN'T GUARANTEE ANYONE WILL BE HAPPY.
BUT WE, I'D LIKE TO BE INVOLVED.
WE WANT WHAT'S BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY.
AND I KNOW MR. GARCIA DOES AS WELL.
I MEAN, I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF YOU, BUT I KNOW YOU'VE EXPRESSED YOU WANT WHAT'S BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, IN LIGHT OF THAT MR. CHAIR, I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
UH, ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? NONE.
COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT? NONE.
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THIS IS, I DON'T REALLY HAVE A QUESTION EXCEPT I WOULD ASK THAT STAFF LOOK AT THE, THE NUMBERS BECAUSE WHEN I, I'M, I'M NOT GETTING THE SAME NUMBER OF UNITS ALLOWED FOR R SIX, EACH ONE WOULD GET AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT IN THEORY.AND THAT DATE IS, UH, APRIL THE 18TH.
UH, COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE TO YOU FOR THE MOTION.
ALRIGHT, SO I, LIKE I MENTIONED IN MY QUESTIONS, UM, HAVE NOT REALLY BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS YET BETWEEN THE PARTIES AND, UH, I THINK THERE WOULD BE UTILITY IN THAT IT HAS GOTTEN RATHER HEATED FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN IN THE COUPLE OF VOLLEYS OF EMAIL THAT HAVE COME ACROSS MY SCREEN.
SO AT THIS TIME I MOVE FOR A CONTINUANCE OF THIS ITEM NUMBER FOUR TO APRIL 18TH.
ALRIGHT, MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE TO APRIL 18TH.
UM, MOTION IS FOR CONTINUANCE.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? LOOKING LEFT.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE CONTINUANCE TO APRIL.
WE SAID 18TH SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON.
ALRIGHT, I BELIEVE NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
MY NAME IS ADOLFO GONZALEZ, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS LOCATED AT 2 2 3 5 WEST SOUTH CROSS GOING FROM RMM FOUR TO I D C THREE WITH USES PERMITTED IN L LIGHT, INDUSTRIAL AND OUTSIDE STORAGE WITH ALL OTHER OVERLAYS.
THERE WERE 15 NOTICES SENT OUT.
UH, QUINTANA COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED AND TWO IN FAVOR OUTSIDE 200 FEET.
THE EXISTING RM FOUR RESIDENTIAL MIXED DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED I D IDC THREE HIGH INTENSITY INFLOW DEVELOPMENT ZONE WITH USES PERMITTED IN L LIGHT, INDUSTRIAL AND OUTSIDE STORAGE IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED REZONING REQUEST IS TO PERMIT THE USE OF OUTSIDE STORAGE OF TRUCKS, TRAILERS, AND OTHER HEAVY MACHINERY.
THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN INFORMED THAT THE PROPOSED USES AND THE SUBMITTED SITE PLAN CANNOT BE EXPANDED WITHOUT A MAJOR SITE PLAN AMENDMENT, WHICH REQUIRES ANOTHER REZONING.
STAFF DOES FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACT ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
THE PROPOSED USE IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
FOR THIS SIDE OF THE BLOCK, STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION PLEASE.
I'M THE OWNER OF 2235, UH, WEST SOUTH CROSS AND APPLICANT FOR THE REZONING OF THE PROPERTY FROM THE PREVIOUS ORDINANCE ON MARCH 7TH.
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH COURT ENFORCEMENT TO FIX WHAT IS NEEDED TO BE IN COMPLIANCE.
ALSO, I HAVE CONTACTED ALBERT AT THE NIA COMMUNITY CENTER AND EXPLAINED THE REZONING PLANS FOR THE PROPERTY.
AT FIRST HIS MAIN CONCERN WAS THAT LATER IN THE FUTURE OTHER TYPES OF BUSINESS COULD BE DONE SUCH AS A TIRE SHOP OR AUTOMOTIVE SHOP.
AFTER TALKING TO HIM AND BREAKING IT DOWN OF WHAT UH, WE ARE PLANNING TO USE THE PROPERTY FOR, HE WAS OKAY WITH IT, BUT STILL HAD TO GO AND TALK TO THE REST OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
UM, WE HAVE PUT UP THE REQUIRED FENCE DIVIDING THE TWO PROPERTIES.
WE HAVE REMOVED EVERYTHING OFF THE PROPERTY AS STATED BY CODE ENFORCEMENT.
WE HAVE ACQUIRED A VARIANCE FOR THE 10 FOOT GALVANIZED FENCE THAT WAS INSTALLED IN FRONT OF THE PROPERTY, MATCHING UP TO THE NEIGHBOR'S FENCE AND HEIGHT.
I HAVE BROUGHT SOME, UH, PICTURES AND VIDEOS OF THE PROPERTY AND THE SURROUNDINGS FOR A BETTER POINT OF VIEW.
AS I MENTIONED, WE ONLY NEED THIS
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ZONING CHANGE FOR STRICTLY STORAGE, NOT FOR RECYCLING.IT IS WHERE IF IT WERE TO GET DENIED FOR CHANGE OF ZONING.
WE DO NOT SEE THIS PROPERTY EVER HAVING A HOME OR DUPLEX BUILD HERE.
WE WOULD BE DEVASTATED IF ZONING IS DENIED.
AND WE'LL HAVE TO GO BACK TO BEING VACANT LOTS.
THIS WILL BE POSSIBLE, UH, PLACE FOR SQUATTERS AND OR ILLEGAL DUMPING GROUNDS.
PLEASE, PLEASE, LET'S DO THE CORRECT THING AND HAVE THE PROPERTY REZONED TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
AND I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF NEEDED.
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? YES, SIR.
WE'LL PLAY THE VERSE, THE VOICEMAIL FIRST.
UH, MY NAME IS AL ROCHA, REPRESENTING THE ANA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, UH, ANA COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, UH, REGARDING ZONING CASE, THE Z 2 20 23 1 0 7 0 0 0 1 9.
UM, WE'RE GONNA, WE ACTUALLY, UH, UH, UH, HAVE, UM, THE OPINION THAT, UH, ANYTHING, UH, CURRENTLY SET AS RESIDENTIAL SHOULD NOT BE, UH, TRANSITIONED TO ANY KIND OF, ESPECIALLY ANY KIND OF INDUSTRIAL.
SO WE DON'T, WE DON'T AGREE WITH THE REZONING OF THIS CASE.
UM, WE DO FEEL THAT, UH, WE WOULD, UH, LIKE TO REMAIN EARNEST TO THE MASTER PLAN, PUEBLO MASTER PLAN, WHICH ENCOURAGES MIXED USE.
UM, SO THESE CURRENTLY SIT AT THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE, UM, AND UNDERSTAND THE, THE ISSUES, UH, WITH THE CURRENT OWNER.
BUT, UH, WE DO STAND FAST WITH OUR, YOU KNOW, KEEPING THEM, UH, KIND OF, UH, ANY KIND OF POTENTIAL FOR RESIDENTIAL EXCUSE.
I AM SORRY, I, I CAN'T UNDERSTAND THIS DOCTOR SCRIPT HERE.
MR. DE DE LA GARZA, YOU WANTED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? LA OKAY.
UH, THEN WE HAVE VICKY ARDO AND JERRY ARDO.
ALL RIGHT, MR. ARRADONDO, YOU HAVE SIX MINUTES.
UH, JERRY ARRADONDO 1 0 4 0 6 LA F TRAIL, 7 8 0 2 3.
AND 99% OF THE TIME YOU'LL SEE ME IN FAVOR OF DOING DEVELOPMENTS AND MOVING FORWARD WITH DEVELOPMENTS IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE.
UM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, THE BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES ON AN ISSUE THAT, UH, 10 YEARS AGO OR 11 YEARS AGO, THAT I WAS APPOINTED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY, UH, MICHAEL BERNARD, TO SIT AND FIGURE OUT SOME OF THESE IS SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WERE ALWAYS COMING UP IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND ESPECIALLY THE, THE, THE FOCUS WAS ON HAVING, UH, THE, UH, DEALING WITH THESE ISSUES FOR PUBLIC, UH, HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE.
WELL, WE SPENT SO MUCH TIME THAT WAS OVER ABOUT A YEAR, OVER A YEAR DEALING WITH THESE ISSUES.
AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD TO DEAL WITH WAS MAKING SURE THAT WE, THAT, UH, THE T C E Q WAS INVOLVED, THATS WAS INVOLVED, THAT THE CITY WAS INVOLVED, BECAUSE ALSO WHAT, WHAT YOU HAD IS, UH, MAKING SURE THAT YOU HAD THE STORM WATER POLLUTION PLAN WORKED OUT SO THAT WAY WE DIDN'T, WOULDN'T, UH, CONTAMINATE OUR WATER.
ONE OF THE OTHER ISSUES WAS MAKING SURE THAT WE DID NOT HAVE THE, UH, THAT WE HAD EVERYTHING CONTROLLED WHEN IT, IT CAME TO OIL, ESPECIALLY.
'CAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE CARS THAT COME IN AND THEY'RE CRUSHED AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE DEALT WITH, THEN YOU HAVE AN OIL SPILL.
I COMPARE THAT TO, FOR EXAMPLE, A RESTAURANT.
A, A RESTAURANT HAS TO HAVE A, A GREASE TRAP SO THAT WAY THEY CAN DEAL WITH THE, UH, THE GREASE.
AND SO WHEN WE LOOKED AT ALL THOSE ISSUES, WE, WE FOCUSED ON 'EM AND WE MADE SURE THAT THOSE ISSUES WERE DEALT WITH.
AND THEREFORE WE SAID, THESE, THESE ARE THINGS THAT EVERYBODY NEEDS TO BE COMPLYING WITH.
AND AS LONG AS THEY COMPLY WITH THEM, THEN THEY SHOULD BE IN BUSINESS BECAUSE THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A NEED FOR THIS TYPE OF INDUSTRY.
BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, WE FIND THAT THE, THE, UH, ADDRESS AT 2235 SOUTH
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CROSS HAS BEEN IN VIOLATION OF THESE ISSUES OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.AND I THINK THAT THEY, IT WAS JUST MENTIONED ALREADY THAT, UH, CODE COMPLIANCE HAS ALMOST MADE A CAREER OUTTA BEING OVER THERE BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN IN VIOLATION MULTIPLE TIMES AND EVERY TIME THEY'RE IN VIOLATION, IT'S, AGAIN, IN MULTIPLE TIMES.
THE LAST TIME WE HAD, UH, SAWS OVER THERE WAS, UH, LAST WEEK, MATTER OF FACT, LAST THURSDAY OR FRIDAY.
AND THEY CAME IN AND THEY SAID, GUYS, YOU STILL HAVE OIL SPILLING AND YOU GOTTA FIX IT.
AND UH, AND THAT WAS, THEIR REPORT WAS LIKE, I THINK TWO 30 OR THREE O'CLOCK LAST, UH, LAST THURSDAY OR FRIDAY, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO WITH THOSE ISSUES IN INTACT, WE CERTAINLY AGREE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
WE ALSO AGREE WITH A STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL.
AND, UH, THEN THAT IS MY REQUEST, IS THAT WE, UH, WE DENY THE ZONING CASE AND UH, AND THEN WE LET THOSE THAT, THAT, UH, DO THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING, UH, MOVE FORWARD AND LET'S COMPLY THE WAY WE OUTLINED THEM, YOU KNOW, WAY BACK, UH, WHEN, WHEN WE SPENT, UH, SO MUCH TIME ON PUTTING ALL THIS STUFF TOGETHER.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHERS? NO, SIR.
THE APPLICANT YOU'VE GOT A CHANCE FOR, WAIT, I THINK SOMEONE SAID THAT THEY HAD SIGNED UP.
YEAH, I SIGNED UP LARRY GARCIA.
THERE WAS TWO SIGNED UP SHEETS.
UM, AND YOU SAID YOUR LAST NAME WAS GARCIA? I, SO YOU'RE THOMAS DELLA? NO, GARZA IS LARRY GARCIA.
AND THEN THERE'S TWO OF THE GENTLEMEN RIGHT THERE.
THOSE, THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT LARRY, LARRY GARCIA, THAT'S NOT THIS CASE.
YEAH, YOU SHOULD HAVE MARKED FIVE.
YES, WE HAVE LARRY GARCIA, GLENN GONZALEZ, AND STEVE YIELD BY TIME.
THERE'S A GENTLEMAN YIELD IN HIS TIME.
I HOPE I DON'T TAKE THAT MUCH TIME.
AND THAT'S REALLY THE REASON WHY THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATES THIS AND COMPLAINED INITIALLY, IS THAT HE HAD, UH, EXPANDED THE SALVAGE YARD WITHOUT GETTING PRIOR COUNSEL APPROVAL.
UH, EVEN WHEN WE CALLED CODE COMPLIANCE, CODE COMPLIANCE THEN SAID, THIS IS NOT A RESIDENTIAL ISSUE.
YOU'RE COMPLAINING TO THE WRONG DEPARTMENT.
UM, IF YOU CAN LOOK AT HIS, AT THE ZONING MAP, YOU HAVE A POINTER.
SOMEBODY, HOW DO I DO THIS? UH, HERE, OKAY, HIS, UH, SALVAGE YARD IS THIS L RIGHT HERE? 4, 4, 2.
THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT A SALVAGE YARD, BUT HE'S USING IT AS PART OF IT.
UH, HE IS DEMOLISHED THIS HOME.
ACTUALLY, LAST TIME HE SAID IT WAS A, A VACANT DRUG HOME.
IT WAS, IT WAS A RESIDENTIAL HOME.
IN 2021, HE, UH, HE HAD A T E C Q COMPLAINT 'CAUSE HE SPILLED OIL ALL, ALL OVER THAT PROPERTY.
UM, INSTEAD OF REMEDIATING IT, HE PURCHASED IT.
SO ONCE HE PURCHASED IT, HE DEMOLISHED IT SOON AFTER AND THEN EXPANDED HIS BUSINESS.
THE SAME THING WITH AN ADJOINING PROPERTY.
WE HAVE MULTIPLE ISSUES WITH THAT PROPERTY IN TOTAL.
UH, YOU KNOW, HE'S, HE DOES, HE HAS A C OF O UM, FOR A SCALE, BUT HIS BUILDING THAT HE'S USING AS AN OFFICE, A SCALE HOUSE DOES NOT HAVE A BUILDING PERMIT NOR A C O O.
THERE'S MULTIPLE ISSUES WITH HIS PROPERTY.
LIKE I SAID, UH, THE ONLY NON-CONFORMING USE FOR HIS SALVAGE YARD IS THAT LITTLE TINY PIECE OF PROPERTY AT 4, 4 2.
IF YOU CAN PUT THAT, THAT ONE BACK UP IS THIS LITTLE AREA FOR 4, 4, 2.
NOT THAT PART, NOR THESE TWO, BUT IT'S, IT WAS, YOU KNOW, IN TOTAL THAT'S WHAT HE WAS USING IT FOR.
SO THAT'S REALLY OUR, OUR ISSUE.
THE OTHER ISSUE IS, LAST TIME WE WERE TALKING ABOUT BATHROOMS, THERE'S NO BUILDING PERMIT.
THERE'S NO SEWERS, THERE'S NO BATHROOM.
SO YOU KNOW, HIS PORT-A-POTTY FROM LAST TIME.
I, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO, I'M GONNA ACCEPT HIM AT HIS WORD THAT HE WAS USING IT FROM WAY BACK WHEN, BUT THERE'S NOWHERE FOR ANYBODY TO USE FACILITIES
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ON THE PROPERTY 'CAUSE THERE'S NO, NO BATHROOM.UM, OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK I'VE TOUCHED ON EVERYTHING.
I'M DONE TOLD YOU I WAS GONNA USE NINE MINUTES.
WERE THERE ANY OTHERS SIGNED UP ON THIS ITEM? I APOLOGIZE.
APOLOGIZE IF THESE NAMES WERE ALREADY SAID.
I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM, IS THERE A MR UH, LARRY GARCIA WANTING TO SPEAK? THAT WAS HIM.
AND MR. GLENN GONZALEZ AND STEVE.
NOPE, WE ARE GOOD WITH, UH, FOR SPEAKERS FOR THIS CASE.
UH, THE APPLICANT, YOU HAVE A CHANCE FOR A REBUTTAL AS WELL.
IS THERE A WAY TO, UH, PUT UP SOME VIDEOS THAT I SENT IN AND PICTURES? I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE THEM.
JUST SO I COULD GET A BETTER VIEW OF THE PROPERTY AND WHAT HAVE I DONE SINCE THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THE FRONT PART OF THE PROPERTY, THAT'S THE 4 4 2
UH, COURT ENFORCEMENT, UM, ADVISED FOR ME TO GET EVERYTHING OFF THE TWO, UH, PROPERTIES, WHICH ARE VACANT RIGHT NOW.
I WENT AHEAD AND REMOVED EVERYTHING, PUT 'EM ON THIS SIDE.
YOU COULD SEE THAT THE FENCE IS, UH, BEING BUILT AS OF AS OF NOW AS WE SPEAK.
IT SHOULD GET DONE WITHIN THE NEXT ONE OR TWO DAYS AS TO HOW IT WAS BEFORE IT GOT KNOCKED DOWN.
UH, ON THE DEMOLISHING PART, I DID GET THE PERMITS AND I DID GET A STATEMENT WHERE IT'S BEEN CLOSED THE CORRECT WAY.
UH, THE PORT POTTY ISSUE, HOW I SAID IT WAS AT THE 2235 WEST SOUTH CROSS.
UH, THERE IS RESTROOMS ON THE PROPERTY.
I BELIEVE IT'S, UM, A SEPTIC TANK.
THAT'S HOW THE, THE PROPERTY WAS PURCHASED.
UM, ON THE OIL SPILL THAT SOMEONE MENTIONED ON UH, 2235 WEST SOUTH CROSS.
UH, WE, WE, UH, GOT THE MANIFEST.
WE SENT THE, THE DIRT TO GET TESTED.
ONCE WE GOT THE OKAY TO, UH, GET RID OF IT, WE WENT TO WASTE MANAGEMENT.
WASTE MANAGEMENT, THAT'S WHERE WE DISPOSED OF IT.
UM, I MEAN AS YOU COULD SEE, I'M WORKING WITH THE CITY.
I'M DOING EVERYTHING THAT THEY'RE ASKING ME TO.
THERE'S SOME SMALL HICCUPS IN ME NOT GETTING THE PERMIT FOR THE FENCE, MAYBE, UH, THE CEMENT, BUT THE HOUSE WAS DEMOLISHED THE RIGHT WAY.
I'M KEEPING EVERYTHING 10 FEET AWAY FROM THE FENCE LINES AS Y'ALL ASK.
SO THIS PROPERTY IN THE BOTTOM WHERE THE TREES ARE AT, IT'S, IT'S A HOUSE, BUT IT, THEY'RE ALL THREE, UH, CONNECTED PROPERTIES.
IT'S A BODY SHOP, INSPECTION SHOP AND A HOUSE WHICH BELONG TO THE OTHER GENTLEMAN, WHICH IS, UH, DANIEL HACK FROM TEXAS AUTO SALVAGE.
SO PRETTY MUCH HERE ALREADY OWNS ALL OF THE CORONER.
AND WHAT HE DID WAS PRETTY MUCH LOCK ME INTO THOSE SMALL PROPERTIES.
IT HAPPENED FEBRUARY 7TH WHEN WE HAD AN ARGUMENT.
THAT'S WHEN HE SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU WANT, YOU WANT ME TO GET DOWN TO THAT POINT? I'M GONNA GIVE YOU LIVING HELL.
I'M GONNA MAKE YOUR LIFE HARD FOR YOU TO KEEP GOING IN BUSINESS.
SO FROM MY POINT OF VIEW IS THAT THIS IS PERSONAL.
THIS IS NOTHING WITH THE PROPERTIES, THIS IS NOTHING WITH THE REZONING.
HE JUST DOESN'T WANT ME TO BE THERE.
AND THAT DAY I TALKED TO HIM, I'M LIKE, IF YOU DON'T WANT ME HERE SO BAD, I COULD SELL YOU MY PROPERTIES, THAT'S NO PROBLEM.
BUT HE'S JUST BEING HARD ON ME.
I JUST ASKED FOR A LITTLE BIT OF HELP, A LITTLE BIT OF EASEMENT.
I'M TRYING TO WORK THE BEST WAY I CAN AND DO WHAT I CAN TO STAY IN BUSINESS.
AND ONCE AGAIN, COMMISSIONER OF THE DAY, COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE YOUR CASE.
I THOUGHT I WAS GONNA BE ALL THE INDIVIDUAL CASES, BUT NO.
ELIZABETH, CAN YOU PUT UP THE SITE PLAN JUST SO THEY HAVE IT AS A REFERENCE PLEASE.
ALRIGHT, SO I'M GONNA BEGIN AGAIN, UH, THE WAY I DID LAST TIME.
AND SO STAFF, CAN WE TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE CODE ENFORCEMENT VIOLATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN OBSERVED AT THIS PROPERTY? YES.
UH, SO IF YOU COULD, HOW DID THIS PROPERTY FIRST COME TO THE ATTENTION OF CODE COMPLIANCE? THE NORTH OF IT, THAT IS NOT PART OF THE REQUEST ON NEW LAREDO
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HIGHWAY.THAT IS AN M R E, WHICH IS A METAL RECYCLING ENTITY.
AND SO THEY, UH, WERE REQUIRING SOME FENCING BETWEEN PROPERTIES.
AND SO THAT'S HOW IT CAME TO CODE'S ATTENTION.
IT ALSO CAME TO CODE'S ATTENTION BECAUSE OF THE MASSIVE FENCE THAT WAS ERECTED AROUND THE PROPERTY WITHOUT A PERMIT AND THAT, UH, WAS MADE OF CORRUGATED METAL.
SO A NUMBER OF THOSE, UM, TRIGGERED THE CODE REVIEW AND INVESTIGATION.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
AND MR. GONZALEZ MENTIONED THAT THE HOUSE WAS DEMOLISHED BY WITH A DEMOLITION PERMIT.
IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, I BELIEVE IT IS, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL DOUBLE CHECK.
UM, FINALLY, HE MENTIONED A VARIANCE FOR THE FENCE.
HAS THAT BEEN GRANTED? DID THAT OCCUR? NO, WE HAVEN'T REVIEWED A, A FENCE VARIANCE YET.
HE COULD HAVE IT IN PROCESSING, UH, BUT WE HAVE NOT SEEN A, A FENCE REQUEST FOR THIS LOCATION.
UM, ACTUALLY NOW CAN I GET HIS PICTURES BACK UP PLEASE? OKAY.
SO LET'S LOOK AT THAT PICTURE RIGHT THERE.
YOU SEE THAT YELLOW PORTION OF, I GUESS TECHNICALLY THE SOUTHERN MOST FENCE, BUT THE FAR FENCE? YES.
AND SO THAT PROPERTY IS 2235, CORRECT? CORRECT.
AND THEN THERE'S A DISCOLORATION BETWEEN THAT PROPERTY AND THE ONE ON THE LEFT, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND THAT PROPERTY IS 2227? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND 2227 IS SUBJECT TO A DIFFERENT ZONING REZONING REQUEST NOW AS WELL? YES.
BUT IT'S ALL RIGHT NOW, IT'S ALREADY BEEN ENCLOSED BY A 10 FOOT FENCE? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE VARIANCE THAT YOU SAID.
HAVE YOU JUST FILED A VARIANCE? I FILED IT THIS MORNING.
OKAY, SO YOU FILED A VARIANCE.
UM, UH, NOW IF WE CAN GET THE SITE PLAN.
AND MR. GONZALEZ, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST TIME? YES, SIR.
HASN'T BEEN UPDATED IN THE, IN THE PACKET
IT WOULD HAVE TO BE PRESENTED DURING THE PUBLIC MEETING.
UM, OKAY, SO YOU DID ADDRESS THE ISSUE THAT I RAISED WITH RESPECT TO THE SITE PLAN FROM LAST TIME? YES.
UH, WHERE SAYS FREE SPACE IS PRETTY MUCH GONNA BE THE OPENING MM-HMM.
IT'S NOT A ONE FULL 80 FOOT CONTAINER.
THEY'RE ALL ABOUT EIGHT FEET IN WIDTH.
THAT WAY WE COULD HAVE THAT SPACE IN THE MIDDLE GO IN REVERSE ONTO THE PROPERTY AND PRETTY MUCH, UH, HOOK UP THE TRAILER, GET THE MACHINERY OUT.
I THINK THAT REMAINS ALL OF MY QUESTIONS.
AND SIR, WE DID CONFIRM THERE WAS A DEMOLITION PERMIT PULLED, COMPLETED.
UH, QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? NONE.
COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT? NONE.
UH, I HAVE NONE BACK TO YOU, COMMISSIONER BI.
UM, YOU KNOW, HAVING HEARD THE DISCUSSION LAST TIME AND THE BENEFIT OF THAT, UH, I STILL HAVE NOT CHANGED MY OPINION ON THIS CASE.
UH, NOTHING THAT HAS COME FORWARD AT THIS POINT, UM, MAKES ME THINK OF ANYTHING BUT DENIAL.
AND MR. GONZALEZ, I AM SORRY ABOUT THAT, BUT THE SIMPLE FACT IS BECAUSE, WELL, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT MAKE ME HESITANT TO GIVE YOU THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT.
AND I DON'T THINK IT'S YOUR FAULT.
I DON'T THINK YOU'RE A BAD PERSON, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A HISTORY OF CODE COMPLIANCE VIOLATIONS.
MR. GARCIA BROUGHT UP SOME, UH, YOU KNOW, WATER QUALITY ISSUES.
UH, WE HAVE THESE TWO CASES THAT ARE FOR THE SAME PROPERTY EFFECTIVELY AND CERTAINLY FOR SIMILAR USES BETWEEN 2235 WEST SOUTH CROSS, AND 2227 WEST SOUTH CROSS.
AND EACH OF THOSE IS NOW BEFORE US ON TWO DIFFERENT DATES WITH TWO DIFFERENT CASES.
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WHY THAT'S SO, AND IT MAKES ME SUSPICIOUS IS WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO.AND I KNOW YOU MIGHT HAVE REASONS FOR THAT, MR. GONZALEZ.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, GIVEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS GIVEN THE PEOPLE WHO CALLED IN CAME THIS MEETING CAME LAST MEETING, I'M GOING TO MOVE FOR DENIAL.
AND AT THIS TIME I MOVE FOR DENIAL OF ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
ALL RIGHT,
OKAY, THE MOTION IS FOR DENIAL BY COMMISSIONER BUSANTE, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ.
UM, ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER ON MY LEFT? COMMISSIONER BARTOS? UM, I'M VERY UNDECIDED ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A PLAN OR THE WHOLE BLOCK.
SO IF THIS COMES BACK, I'D REALLY LIKE TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT IT.
LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A USED CAR LOT ON THE NORTH SIDE, SO THERE'S OTHER INDUSTRIAL EQUIPMENT IN THAT AREA WHO COULD BE ALSO IN VIOLATION OF CITY CODE.
SO, UM, THAT'S MY CONCERN THAT WE'RE NOT SEEING THE WHOLE PICTURE OR THE WHOLE BLOCK.
IT'S A PAINTED BODY AND THEY'RE NOT USING SPRAY POOLS.
AND THOSE PROPERTIES BELONG TO MR. DANIEL HAGG, BUT YET YOU DON'T ADDRESS IT TO THEM.
SIR, THE, THE PUBLIC COMMENT'S CLOSED.
ANY OTHER? WELL, IF, IF THIS COMES BACK, I'D JUST LIKE TO ASK STAFF TO SEND US A BETTER PICTURE OF THE WHOLE BLOCK.
UH, I'M SURE THIS IS GONNA COME BACK AGAIN.
UM, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COMMERS ON MY LEFT.
COMMISSIONER WATSON, UH, I'M GONNA BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION, UH, IN CASES SUCH AS THESE, I DO BELIEVE THE RIGHT THING, THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME IS TO DIFFER TO THE COMMISSIONER, UH, WHO KNOWS THEIR COMMUNITY BEST.
UM, SO I AM HAPPY TO SUPPORT, UM, COMMISSIONER BUSTA MONTE'S MOTION.
UM, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS UNLIKELY TO BE, UH, USED AS A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY IN THE FUTURE, BUT I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE, UM, ALLOWING A ZONING CHANGE THAT WILL BE PERMANENT.
UM, AND THIS MUCH OF AN UP ZONE WITH SUCH A LONG HISTORY OF, UM, CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUES AND SO MUCH OPPOSITION, UM, FROM THE COMMUNITY, UM, THAT MAKES ME UNCOMFORTABLE.
UM, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE CURRENT CONDITION OF THE PROPERTY IS, ANY ISSUE OF THOSE ISSUES RESOLVED OR NOT? UM, IF WE DO THE REZONE AND THOSE DON'T GET RESOLVED, WE'RE, WE'RE PUTTING THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN A TIGHT SPOT.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WILL NEED TO WAIT AND SEE.
UM, AND I THINK IT'S, IT'S FOR THE GOOD OF THE COMMUNITY, UM, TO PROTECT THE PROPERTY FOR THE TIME BEING BASED ON WHAT WE'VE HEARD.
ANY COMMISSIONER? WE THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.
SO AT THE LAST HEARING, UH, I DID NOT SUPPORT, UH, COMMISSIONER BUSTA MONTE'S, UH, MOTION AND IS REALLY TO GIVE THE APPLICANT THAT BENEFITED THE DOUBT.
UH, HEARING THE INFORMATION FROM TODAY, THOUGH, I WILL BE SUPPORTING COMMISSIONER BUSTA MONTE'S MOTION.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? NONE.
UM, I AGREE WITH WHAT COMMISSIONER WATSON SAID.
UM, I MEAN, YES, IT'S, IT, IT IT IS A DIFFICULT CASE.
IT, BUT I, I BELIEVE THE, THE INPUT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, CARRIES A LOT OF WEIGHT.
AND, UM, WHEN IT'S A VERY CLOSE CASE LIKE THIS, I I WILL DEFER TO THE, UH, COMMISSIONER IN WHOSE DISTRICT THE CASE RESIDES.
SO, WITH THAT, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR DENIAL BY COMMISSIONER BUSANTE.
COMMISSIONER BARROS, I WANNA ABSTAIN FROM THIS.
COMMISSIONER LOGIA HOLLAND? YES.
IF WE COULD MOVE ON TO THE NEXT CASE, WHICH THINK THAT SELECTIVE SERVICE.
WHAT HAPPENED, SIR? ALL RIGHT, SIR.
SIR, THAT'S, THAT'S PLEASE, PLEASE EXIT PLEASE YOU SIR.
SIR, SIR, WE, WE HAD A, IT WAS, IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING.
PEOPLE WERE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOICE THEIR OPINIONS.
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MM-HMM.WE, WE, WE, WE, WE GET, WE GET NO MONEY.
$20 A MEETING, BUT THAT'S GAS AND LUNCH.
UM, ANYONE UP FOR A SHORT RECESS? ALRIGHT, SHORT RECESS.
ALRIGHT, THE TIME IS 2 51 AND WE ARE, THE ZONING COMMISSION IS BACK IN SESSION.
IF WE COULD MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM.
MY NAME IS ADOLFO GONZALEZ, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER 14 IS LOCATED AT 4 7 3 4 CALLAHAN ROAD.
GOING FROM R 20 TO C TWO CD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR OFFICE WAREHOUSING.
THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THE REQUEST TO ADD THE NA NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES OVERLAY.
THERE WERE 20 NOTICES SENT OUT.
THUNDERBIRD HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT AS AMENDED.
NO RESPONSE FROM INGRAM HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
THE EXISTING R 20 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
MOST OF THE PROPERTIES ALONG CALLAHAN AND ARTERIAL STREET ARE BEING ZONED AND OR DEVELOPED FOR COMMERCIAL USE.
THE REQUESTED C TWO CD ALLOWS THE DEVELOPMENT OF AN OFFICE WAREHOUSE ON THE VACANT LOT AND TO A PRESCRIBED SITE PLAN AS PART OF, UH, CONDITIONAL USE.
THE COMMISSION MAY ALSO MAKE CONSIDERATIONS FOR HOURS OF OPERATIONS, BUFFERING, SIGNAGE, LIGHTING, AND OTHER SIMILAR FACTORS IF NEEDED TO PROTECT ANY NEARBY RESIDENTIAL ZONING AND OR USES.
STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON EVERY LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE C TWO COMMERCIAL AND C THREE GENERAL COMMERCIAL WITH SOME RESIDENTIAL ZONING THAT IS OUT OF CHARACTER FOR THE AREA.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THAT APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE.
I'M WITH BAR ENGINEERS AND ASSOCIATES.
UH, WE'RE RETAINED BY THE OWNER TO REZONE THE PROPERTY.
UH, PRETTY MUCH EXPLAIN, UH, PRETTY THOROUGHLY WHAT WE'RE DOING.
UH, WE MET WITH, UH, BOTH ASSOCIATIONS.
UH, I THINK HE SAID INGRAM DIDN'T RESPOND, BUT ACTUALLY THEY, THEY WERE FOR IT.
UM, SO WAS THE OTHER ASSOCIATION.
WE DID SEND OUT OUR STAFF TO CANVAS THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SOME PEOPLE DIDN'T WANNA SPEAK TO ANYBODY.
BUT, UM, I GUESS, UM, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT'S GOING ON LATELY WITH SOCIETY
UH, BUT WE, UH, WE HAD ALL POSITIVE FEEDBACKS.
UH, WE DID OUR BEST TO GIVE EVERYONE WHAT THEY WANTED.
UH, WE ARE ADDING THE NO ALCOHOL.
UH, WE DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT SINCE, UM, IT'S INTENDED TO BE OFFICE USE.
UM, THE PROP, THE, THE, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY WILL BE ON THE PROPERTY.
UH, HE'S OWNS A ELECTRICAL COMPANY, SO HE IS GONNA HAVE HIS OFFICE THERE AND WAREHOUSE IT.
UH, AND THEN HE IS GONNA HAVE, UH, OFFICE SPACE IN THE FRONT FOR LEASE.
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? WE DO HAVE A VOICEMAIL AND THEN, UM, WE DO HAVE A SPEAKER.
IF WE COULD HAVE THE VOICEMAIL PLEASE.
UH, MY NAME IS, UH, SANTIAGO EL BURN AND MY WIFE'S NAME IS CATHERINE BERNAL.
WE LIVE IN, UH, WE BOTH HOME THE PROPERTIES AT 57 21 SILVERCREST AND FIFTY SEVEN TWENTY SEVEN SILVERCREST.
UM, THE PHONE NUMBER IS, UH, (210) 213-5658.
AND UH, WE ARE VOTING IN FAVOR OF, UH, THIS, UH, ZONING CHANGE WITH THE INCLUSION THAT, UH, IT IS, UH, C TWO MA.
IN OTHER WORDS, NON-ALCOHOL AND THE CONDITIONAL USE.
UM, THE ONLY CONCERN THAT WE DO HAVE IS, IS THE NOISE FACTOR, BUT, UM, THE HENSON PROPERTY, UH, NEXT DOOR HAS BEEN THERE FOR YEARS AND, UH, IT HASN'T BEEN A PROBLEM.
SO I DON'T ANTICIPATE THIS BEING A PROBLEM EITHER.
BUT THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY, UH, CONCERN.
WE DO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THE ZONING CHANGE FOR 57 21 AND 57 27 SILVERCREST.
ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD GET THE SPEAKER PLEASE.
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YES, MR. DAN, UH, ES APOLOGIZE.COMMISSIONERS DAN ROSTER, UH, 46 0 6 LONE EAGLE UNIT 1 0 2.
UH, AUTHORIZED REPRESENTATIVE FOR THUNDERBIRD HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
UM, WE DO SUPPORT WITH THE ADDED NA UH, ADDITION TO THE ZONING AND KEEPING WITH THE OTHER PROPERTIES DIRECTLY ADJACENT.
UM, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BEGINS AT THE JANE DEBELL PARK, WHICH YOU CAN SEE AS PART OF THE 200 FOOT BUFFER.
UM, SO CERTAINLY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT ADJACENT TO A PARK WE'RE NOT HAVING ALCOHOL THERE AND CONDITIONAL USE COVERED THAT.
BUT JUST MAKING SURE IT WAS VERY CLEAR THAT THAT WAS NOT GONNA BE PART OF IT, SO WE SUPPORT IT.
IS THAT ALL FOR OUR SPEAKERS? ALRIGHT, APPLICANT, YOU CAN COME AND HAVE A REBUTTAL.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'D NEED TO SAY ANYTHING SINCE I AM COMPLETELY AGAINST NO
ALRIGHT, THIS IS A DISTRICT SEVEN CASE, SO IT GOES TO ME FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM.
UM, SO I'LL SEE IF ANY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS LOOKING LEFT.
YES, MR. I THINK JUST TO MAKE IT OFFICIAL THOUGH, YOU ARE OFFICIALLY AMENDING YOUR APPLICATION TO NA YES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE ON MY LEFT.
ALRIGHT, I'LL BE MAKING A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AS AMENDED.
UM, I WANT TO THANK THE APPLICANT FOR WORKING WITH THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
UM, AND THE ONLY CONDITIONS I WOULD LIKE TO PLACE IS FOR, UM, DOWNWARD FACING LIGHTING AND, AND THAT'S BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, SO THAT IT'S NOT SHINING ONTO THE HOMES THAT ARE ON, ON ON SILVER CREST.
UM, AND THOSE ARE PRETTY MUCH COMMON LIGHTS NOWADAYS.
SO WITH THAT I MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AS AMENDED WITH THE CONDITION FOR DOWNWARD FACING LIGHTING.
UH, WAS THAT YOU COMMISSIONER LEG HOLLAND? MM-HMM.
COMMISSIONER LEGIA HOLLAND? YES.
IF WE COULD MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 15, I BELIEVE.
MY NAME IS CAMERON BLACKMAN, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER 15 IS GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE 19,000 BLOCK OF APPLE WHITE ROAD GOING FROM M I ONE MIXED INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT TO F R SS FARM AND RANCH WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A CEMETERY WITH ALL OVERLAYS STAYING THE SAME.
THERE WERE 19 NOTICES SENT OUT.
AND THERE IS NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IN THE AREA.
THE EXISTING M I ONE IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED F R S IS ALSO APPROPRIATE FOR THE PROPERTY.
THE PROPOSED F R S PROMOTES DEVELOPMENT ON A VACANT LOT IN AN UNDERDEVELOPED AREA.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS SIZED IN PLACE APPROPRIATELY TO ACCOMMODATE THE USES IN AN FFR BASED ZONING DISTRICT.
AND THE SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION WILL PERMIT THE CEMETERY AND HOLD THE APPLICANT TO A PRESCRIBED SUBMITTED SITE PLAN.
STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE ZONED RP, RESOURCE PROTECTION DISTRICT, UD URBAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, AND BP BUSINESS PARK DISTRICT STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
COULD THE APPLICANT PLEASE? GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.
PATRICK CHRISTENSEN, THREE 10 SOUTH ST.
NOT A VERY COMPLICATED REQUEST, JUST TRYING TO DO A CEMETERY OFF APPLEWHITE ROAD.
IT'S BASICALLY FARMLAND ALL AROUND THERE TO THE NORTH.
ABOUT A QUARTER MILE NORTH THERE IS A INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE AND THAT IS ABOUT IT.
UM, THERE'S NO PROPOSED STRUCTURES OTHER THAN A ONE OF THOSE PORTABLE HOME DEPOT SHEDS TO STORE SOME LAWNMOWING EQUIPMENT, THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, THERE REALLY IS NOT A QUIETER USE THAN A CEMETERY.
THERE'LL BE OCCASIONAL, YOU KNOW, UH, BURIALS WHERE THERE'LL BE SOME CARS, BUT THAT'S ABOUT IT.
SO I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
DO WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? WE DO.
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UH, PEGGY OPPEL.I'M SORRY IF I PRONOUNCED IT INCORRECTLY.
UM, I'M PEGGY OPEL AND I'M ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR LAND HERITAGE INSTITUTE, WHICH IS A 1200 ACRE PARK RESERVE NATURE HISTORICAL ANIMAL REFUGE.
OUR MISSIONS ARE EDUCATION AND PRESERVATION AND WE SHARE A COMMON FENCE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
AND SO WE ARE NOT REALLY FARM AND RANCH.
SO WHAT WE HAVE OUR, UM, CAMPING, WE HAVE HIKERS, WE HAVE BIRDERS, WE HAVE TOURISTS, WE HAVE HORSEBACK RIDES.
SO NONE OF THOSE ARE IN PARTICULAR, ARE NOT, UH, ARE IMPACTED I DON'T THINK BY THE CEMETERY, BUT ARCHEOLOGY IS A BIG DEAL DOWN THERE.
SO IT'S, I MEAN THE ARCHEOLOGISTS THAT DID THE STUDIES FOR OUR PROPERTY SAID YOU BASICALLY CAN'T PUT A SPADE IN THE GROUND AND TURN IT OVER WITHOUT TURNING UP SOME SORT OF ARCHEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE.
AND SO THAT IS ONE OF MY CONCERNS, MY BIGGEST CONCERN.
SO I WOULD THINK THAT, AND, AND IT'S BECAUSE IT'S A FORMER AGRICULTURAL PROPERTY, THEY SAY THE FIRST 18 INCHES, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN DO STUFF WITHIN THE FIRST 18 INCHES AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT TOO MUCH BECAUSE IT'S BEEN TURNED OVER.
BUT ANYTHING BELOW THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO REALLY CONCERN YOURSELF WITH WHAT YOU'RE FINDING AND WHAT YOU'RE DISTURBING.
THE OTHER THING IS THAT I THINK THE POSITION OF THIS WOULD ACTUALLY PRESENT SORT OF AN ATTRACTIVE NUISANCE FOR THIS AREA.
UM, THE APPLEWHITE AND MEDINA RIVER BRIDGE IS JUST TO THE NORTH OF THIS PROPERTY AND THERE IS A TRAIL, THE CITY TRAIL, THE MEDINA RIVER GREENWAY IS BETWEEN THIS PROPERTY AND THE RIVER.
SO IT'S WITHIN, I DON'T KNOW, 500 YARDS I WOULD THINK.
AND I SAID LIKE WE HAVE TRAILS THAT ARE RIGHT ON THAT FENCE LINE RIGHT THERE, UM, ON THE EASTERN BORDER.
SO WHAT GOES ON A LOT IN THE APPLEWHITE CROSSING, WHAT PEOPLE CALL THE APPLEWHITE CROSSING, IS THERE'S A LOT OF HOOLIGANISM THAT GOES ON DOWN THERE.
AND I THINK THAT TO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE A CEMETERY DOWN THERE WOULD MAKE PEOPLE EVEN MORE LIKELY TO COME AND DEFACE IT OR DESTROY IT OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
UM, ALSO, YOU KNOW, I, HE TALKED ABOUT TRAFFIC.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY WOULD BRING PEOPLE IN AND OUT OF THERE.
THERE'S UM, SEVERAL PIECES OF PROPERTY IN BETWEEN THE, THE NORTHERN BORDER OF THAT AND THE RIVER TRAILS AND SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT OTHER DEVELOPMENT COULD GO IN THERE.
A CEMETERY, AS HE SAID, IS QUIET AND NOT MUCH, UH, GOING ON.
BUT THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH THAT TOO BECAUSE NOBODY'S TAKING CARE OF IT.
ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? THERE ARE NO MORE.
APPLICANT HAS A CHANCE FOR A SHORT REBUTTAL.
SO APPLEWHITE ROAD RIGHT THERE IS A FOUR LANE DIVIDED THOROUGHFARE.
SO WE HAVE PLENTY OF ACCESS FOR ANY CARS THAT MIGHT SHOW UP FOR A BURIAL.
I'M SURE YOU'RE ALL AWARE WE GET A FEW VISITORS ON THE WEEKEND VISITING BURIAL SITES.
I'M GONNA HAVE TO DISAGREE ON THE ATTRACTIVE NUISANCE.
UM, THE CEMETERY'S PROPOSING FLAT HEADSTONES, THE KIND THAT ARE ALMOST BURIED INTO THE GROUND.
UM, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF HOOLIGANISM COULD BE OCCURRING THERE, BUT IF THERE IS, I'M SURE THE OPERATORS WILL PROVIDE SOME SORT OF SECURITY AT, ON AN AS NEEDED BASIS IF ANYTHING IS GOING ON.
SO I WOULD JUST, UH, REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT.
IT'S A VERY GOOD SITE FOR A CEMETERY.
SO IF SOMEBODY BUILT A WAREHOUSE OR AN INDUSTRIAL FACILITY, THEY WOULD BE DIGGING VERY DEEP AND DISTURBING THE SOIL, THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, SO I'M NOT REALLY SURE I UNDERSTAND THAT CONCERN.
THIS IS A, WHAT IS THIS? DISTRICT THREE AND COMMISSIONER FUENTES IS NOT HERE.
SO TO YOU COMMISSIONER LAGA HOLLAND FOR QUESTIONS.
UM, I'M HOPING STAFF CAN EDUCATE ME A LITTLE BIT ON THE ARCHEOLOGICAL CONCERN, GIVEN THAT THE CASE IS HERE IN FRONT BEFORE US.
ARE THERE ANY ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT? IS THERE ANOTHER BODY AT THE CITY THAT REVIEWS THE APPROPRIATE USE OF THE LAND SO THAT, THAT'S A CONCERN THAT WE CAN DISMISS HERE TODAY? CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT?
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UH, THE, THE ONLY REQUIRED FOR, UH, INTERNAL REVIEW PROCESS IS FOR LOOKING AT CONSISTENCY WITH THE EXISTING AND SURROUNDING ZONING.AND THEN OF COURSE WE DO SEND IT TO, UH, ANY AGENCIES THAT ARE APPLICABLE.
AND IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE IT WAS THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS ALSO IN AGREEMENT THAT, UH, THE REZONING IS APPROPRIATE.
DOES THAT MEAN THE SAME THING AS THERE ARE NO CONCERNS ABOUT TURNING OVER THE SOIL IN THIS AREA DEPENDING ON THE INTENDED USE OF THE PROPERTY AS FAR AS ZONING GOES? THAT IS CORRECT.
NOW, WHEN THEY SUBMIT FOR PERMITTING, THEY WILL LOOK AT ANY OTHER, UM, PERMIT, PERMITS OR REQUIREMENTS, SOIL STUDIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT WHEN THEY SUBMIT FOR THEIR, THEIR PERMITTING.
ANY OTHER, ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT? COMMISSIONER? WE, YEAH.
UH, QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT PLEASE? YES, COMMISSIONER? YEAH.
IS THERE GOING TO BE A FENCE AROUND THE, UH, PROPERTY? WELL, SO RIGHT NOW THERE'S BASICALLY A BARBED WIRE FENCE AT THE, AT THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY NEXT TO THE, THE PARK THAT THE LADY WAS SPEAKING ABOUT.
THE ONLY THING THEY'VE DISCUSSED IS PERHAPS MAYBE IN THE FUTURE THEY'LL DO SOME ORNAMENTAL FENCING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER? WE NONE THINK SO.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER ON MY LEFT.
COMMISSIONER LIAL HOLLAND FOR MOER.
UH, THERE'S A MOTION TO APPROVE.
ALRIGHT, I'M GONNA GO WITH COMMISSIONER.
WE, SINCE I WAS LOOKING THAT WAY, UH, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF WHICH ONE? ITEM 15 BY COMMISSIONER LAG HOLLAND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.
WE, UH, ANY DISCUSSION LOOKING LEFT? JUST GONNA SAY REALLY QUICKLY, MR. CHAIR, THAT OBVIOUSLY, UH, MR. CHRISTENSEN HASN'T HEARD OF LAONA, SO YOU KNOW, IF HE THINKS CEMETERIES ARE QUIET.
ALRIGHT, ANY
I WANT TO TELL A STORY BUT I'M, I'M, I'M GONNA WITHHOLD NO, NO STORY.
NONE OR COMMISSIONER WATSON, WERE YOU THINKING IT? NO.
ALRIGHT, MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL.
MY NAME IS ELIZABETH STEWART, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER 19 IS LOCATED AT 3,800 SOUTH LOOP 1604.
GOING FROM C TWO TO C THREE N A C D SS GENERAL COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR FARM EQUIPMENT, SALES AND SERVICE.
AND SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR OUTSIDE STORAGE WITH SCREENING FROM PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAYS AND ADJACENT PROPERTIES REQUIRED, UM, WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
THERE WERE 25 NOTICES SENT OUT.
ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ONE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION AND THERE IS NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
THE EXISTING C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE REQUESTED C THREE IN A C D S GENERAL COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR FARM EQUIPMENT, SALES SERVICE AND SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR STORAGE OUTSIDE SCREENING REQUIRED IS ALSO AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE REQUESTED REZONING BENEFITS THE SURROUNDING RURAL AREA AND CHARACTER AND PROVIDES GOODS AND SERVICES FROM A SUPPLY STORE.
THE PROPOSED C THREE AND A C D S WILL RESTRICT ALCOHOL SALES ON THE PROPERTY AND THE CONDITIONAL USE AND SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION BOTH REQUIRE A DETAILED SITE PLAN THAT WILL BE TIED TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY.
WITH THE SITE PLAN, ADEQUATE BUFFERING AND FENCING CAN BE REQUIRED TO PROTECT SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
IN ADDITION TO THIS, CONDITIONS CAN BE PLACED ON THE PROPERTY REGARDING LIGHTING HOURS OF OPERATION, LOCATION OF TRASH, SORRY, TRASH DUMPSTERS AND OTHER SIMILAR STIPULATIONS FOR DEVELOPMENT.
STAFF DOES NOT FIND LIKE EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS.
IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST, THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE ZONE C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND IT IS IN CLOSE PROXIMITY
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TO LOOP 1604.STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT.
FREE TO HAVE THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION PLEASE.
WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR TODAY IS A REZONING OF THE PROPERTY FROM C TWO COMMERCIAL TO THE C THREE AND A WITH A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, UM, FOR A TRACTOR SUPPLY STORE.
I'M SURE MOST OF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE TRACTOR SUPPLY.
THEY'RE KIND OF USUALLY LOCATED IN RURAL AREAS.
IT'S ALMOST LIKE A SMALL SMALLER HOME DEPOT WITH THEIR PRODUCTS MORE GEARED TOWARDS FARMING, THINGS LIKE GARDENS, CHICKEN COOPS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR HERE TODAY.
I I KNOW I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF PEOPLE HERE, UH, BELIEVE IT OR IN OPPOSITION.
I'VE ASKED FOR THEM TO INVITE ME OUT TO A MEETING, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CASE TODAY.
UM, I BELIEVE A TRACTOR SUPPLY STORE OF ALL THE COMMERCIAL USES THAT COULD BE LOCATED NEXT DOOR TO YOU IS ONE OF THE MORE QUIET ONES.
IT'S NOT FAST FOOD, IT'S NOT LOUD, IT'S NOT NOISY.
IF YOU NOTICE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE A POINTER.
UM, THIS IS THE SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION IN THE HOUSES DOWN HERE.
WE'VE ORIENTED OUR, OUR FRONT ENTRY FACING NORTH JUST LOOP 1604.
SO MOST OF OUR CUSTOMER TRAFFIC WILL BE COMING IN THROUGH THE NORTH.
THE ONLY TRAFFIC THAT WILL BE COMING THROUGH THE BACK WOULD BE DELIVERY TRUCKS ONCE THE STORE IS UP AND RUNNING.
AND I, I HAVE WENDY FULTON HERE IF THERE'S ANY DETAILED QUESTIONS ABOUT TRACTOR SUPPLIES OPERATIONS, BUT THEY BASICALLY AVERAGE ONE TO TWO DELIVERIES PER WEEK.
SO THERE'S NOT LIKE, THERE'LL BE A LOT OF TRUCK TRAFFIC DOWN HERE.
THIS IS SORT OF A GARDEN OPEN AREA THAT'LL BE GATED IN WITH THE SCREENING.
AND THEN THIS IS THE ACTUAL STORE.
BUT HAPPY TO ENTER, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AND I'LL SAVE A LITTLE REBUTTAL TIME AFTER THE PEOPLE SPEAK.
ARE YOU, ARE YOU GONNA SPEAK SEPARATELY OR KIND OF SEPARATELY KIND OF HELP EACH OTHER? THAT'S FINE.
AND YOU'RE MR. UM, YOU'RE MR. LYMAN? CORRECT.
SO, UM, I WAS HERE THE LAST TIME.
HELLO, MY NAME IS KELLY MCCARTHY.
UM, I'VE GOTTEN NOW THE MAP IN MORE DETAILS BUT NOT EVERYTHING HONESTLY.
WE, I FEEL LIKE WE NEED MORE TIME AS A NEIGHBORHOOD TO TALK TO EVERYONE.
I DON'T THINK EVERYONE'S HAD ENOUGH TIME TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON HERE.
I DUNNO IF EVERYONE'S FAMILIAR WITH ALAMO RANCH.
I AM VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT DISASTER OF A ZONE AND WHAT IT BECAME OF AFTER THEY DID NOT DO ANYTHING FOR THE ZONING OUT THERE AND NOW THAT'S A TRAFFIC NIGHTMARE AND I DO NOT WANT OUR AREA OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO BECOME LIKE THAT.
AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S STARTING OUT.
WE HAVE THE SAME END ZONE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ENDS UP LIKE ALAMO RANCH IN AND WE ARE IN THE FOREFRONT OF 1604 JUST LIKE THAT SIDE OF TOWN.
SO I'M TRYING MY BEST TO KEEP OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FROM ALL THE DISTRACTIONS AND NOISE AND THE TRAFFIC LEVELS THAT ARE HAPPENING OUT ON THAT SIDE OF TOWN.
SO THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO START WITH FIRST.
UM, I'VE BEEN HERE ABOUT 10 YEARS NOW.
UM, BUT I WILL SAY I THOUGHT WE HAD TO AT LEAST HAVE 37 FOOT BARRIER FROM THE COMMERCIAL TO THE RESIDENTIAL.
AND WITHIN THIS PLAN, IF YOU SEE THEY'RE EVEN CUTTING INTO THE 15 FOOT BARRIER DISTANCE AND PUTTING TRASH RECYCLING BY OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT'S THAT LITTLE SQUARE BOX AT THE END OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THERE.
SO THAT'S MY MAIN CONCERN WITH THAT.
UM, AND ALSO MR. LYMAN OVER HERE AND THEN ALSO THE LOCATION OF THE ENTRANCE.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY'RE COMING SO CLOSE TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ON THE BACKSIDE WHEN THAT'S ALL OUR HOUSES.
LIKE IF YOU SEE WHERE THAT LINE IS ON THE BOTTOM THERE WHERE THE ROAD IS, THAT'S ALL OUR HOUSES AND THEY'RE ALL COMING WITHIN 15 FEET OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY'RE PUTTING, AND WE NEED TO HAVE LIKE A FENCE OR A WALL.
'CAUSE THIS IS 1604, THIS ISN'T A NORMAL ROAD.
EVERYONE KNOWS LIKE 1604 AFTER IT'S DEVELOPED AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE ALL THAT 200 HOUSES BEHIND US, IT'S GONNA BECOME A NOISE NIGHTMARE.
AND IF WE HAVE THAT THAT CLOSE AND A WHOLE MALL IN FRONT OF US THAT CLOSE, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD VALUES ARE GONNA GO DOWN.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF TRASH, A LOT OF ISSUES.
AND IF WE DON'T STOP THIS RIGHT NOW AND THAT'S WHY I'M SO CONCERNED AND THAT'S WHY I'M HERE.
AND I DON'T THINK IT, UM, AND THAT'S WHY WE NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME.
I DON'T MIND TRACTOR SUPPLY BEING IN, BUT THEY NEED TO BE FURTHER OUT.
THEY DON'T NEED TO BE SO CLOSE TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND HONESTLY THERE NEEDS TO BE A WALL BETWEEN US AND THEM.
SO IT KEEPS US AS RESIDENTIAL, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE PLANNING ON PUTTING IN A MALL.
I HAVEN'T GOT ENOUGH DETAILS ON WHAT THEY'RE ALSO PLANNING ON PUTTING ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF TRACTOR SUPPLY 'CAUSE THEY WANNA PUT A WHOLE THING IN THERE.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO GET MORE DETAILS BEFORE I CAN EVEN MAKE A DECISION ON THE TRACTOR SUPPLY BECAUSE HOW CAN YOU SAY, HEY WE'RE GONNA PUT A TRACTOR SUPPLY IN, WE'RE GONNA START PUTTING THIS WHOLE MALL IN THERE AND NOT TELLING US ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S GOING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
TO ME THAT'S A LITTLE LIKE WHAT'S GOING ON.
AND THE ENTRANCE FROM THE LAST MEETING, I THOUGHT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO END UP BEING OUT ON 1604.
I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS GONNA BE COMING SO CLOSE TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ON THE BACKSIDE, THAT'S OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE'RE SMALL AND THEY HAVEN'T EVEN
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GIVEN US A CUL-DE-SAC.THERE'S A ROAD ON THE END, UM, A PRAIRIE POND CALLED BOVA BUFFALO RIDGE.
THEY HAVEN'T CULVER SAC THAT EITHER.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT THAT'S CULDESAC AND THAT THERE'S NO ENTRANCE GOING IN AND OUT OF THAT END OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
'CAUSE I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TRAFFIC COMING THROUGH THERE.
THEY HAVE NOT CUL-DE-SAC THAT YET EITHER.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER CONCERN FOR ZONING.
WE'LL PROBABLY CALL YOU UP FOR QUESTIONS.
AND NEXT GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE.
I STAY 37 0 3 7 0 3 PRAIRIE POND.
UH, I AM THE HOUSE THAT'S DIRECTLY ON THE CORNER OF GUSS, UH, GUS MCCRAY LANE THERE.
THE FIRST HOUSE IF WHERE? POINTER.
I'M THE FIRST HOUSE ON THE CORNER HERE.
AND I, I JUST LOOKING AT THE JOINT, IT LOOKS A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY THAN HE'S SAYING THAT THE, EXCUSE ME SIR.
UH, MS. CHRISTENSEN, HE'S SAYING THAT THE ENTRANCE IS GONNA BE HERE GOING AROUND AND COMING OUT AND EXITING WHEN IT EXITS HERE.
I'M NOT SURE HOW FAR THAT DISTANCE IS FROM THE, THE TRACTOR SUPPLY STORE TO MY BACK FENCE THERE.
BUT LOOKING AT THE PLANS THAT THEY'VE, UH, UH, UH, PRESENTED EARLIER, IT HAS A DIXIE DUMPSTER THAT THEY SAY IT'S GONNA BE A DUMPSTER THERE THAT'S RIGHT THERE BEHIND MY YARD.
I DON'T KNOW THE DISTANCE FROM MY FENCE LINE TO THE TRACTOR SUPPLY WHAT'S AUTHORIZED, HOW FAR IT'S GONNA BE AWAY.
I HEAR IT SHOULD BE 37 FEET, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, OR METERS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND, AND LOOKING AT THE PLANS, I THINK IT HAD 20, IF YOU COULD BLOW IT UP MORE ALRIGHT.
TO THE BOTTOM LEFT AND JUST KEEP GOING A LITTLE MORE THERE.
IT SAYS SOMETHING LIKE 20 SOMETHING FEET.
I'M NOT SURE, YOU KNOW, TO READ THE, THE, THE, UH, DIAGRAM HERE.
THAT LITTLE BOX THAT YOU SEE IN THE BOTTOM LEFT HAND, OH, HERE'S THE POINT.
THIS LITTLE BOX IS SUPPOSED TO BE A DUMPSTER AREA.
MY HOME IS THIS SQUARE RIGHT HERE.
THE DISTANCE FROM HERE, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS, THE ROAD LINE RIGHT HERE WHERE THE ROAD BEGINS AND MY FENCE LINE RIGHT HERE, IS THIS A ROAD OR IS THE ROAD OVER HERE? AND IF, IF THIS IS NOT THE ROAD, THE DUMPSTER, I MEAN RECOMMEND PROBABLY PUTTING IT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF WHERE 1604 IS RATHER THAN ON THE SIDE WHERE THE RESIDENTIAL FAMILIES ARE, YOU KNOW, A A TRASH PICKUP AREA.
OH, I'M SORRY, I SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON THE MIC HERE.
UH, COMMERCIAL LIGHTING, UH, I'M NOT SURE IF THE LIGHTING, HOW FAR THEY'RE GONNA BE FROM OUR FENCE LINE.
IF THE LIGHTING'S GONNA BE INSIDE OF MY YARD.
UM, THE TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING TO PICK UP, UH, THIS IS GONNA BE THE ENTRANCE AND HE'S SAYING THAT THE EXIT IS HERE ONLY FOR THE, I GUESS THE COMMERCIAL BUSINESS.
SO THE, THE, THE, THE CUSTOMERS THAT, THAT COME THROUGH THE TRACTOR SUPPLY STORE, THEY'RE GONNA EXIT AN ENTRANCE I GUESS FROM THIS AREA HERE.
NOT, NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT CERTAIN WITH THAT.
AND THE BUSINESS OPERATING HOURS, UH, I BELIEVE THEY SHUT DOWN AT 8:00 PM THERE'S A, A LOUDSPEAKER SYSTEM THAT'S INSIDE THE TRACTOR SUPPLY THAT STORES CURRENTLY, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THAT THEY'RE ALL DAY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE CALLING AROUND FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT EMPLOYEES TO COME AROUND TO GET THIS, GET THAT, GET THAT, GET THIS REPORT OVER HERE, REPORT OVER THERE.
I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH IS THAT GONNA BE TO MY PROPERTY.
I'LL BE LISTENING TO ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
MR. CHRISTENSEN, OR, OR IS THAT ALL THE SPEAKERS WE HAVE SIGNED UP? YES, THAT IS IT.
MR. CHRISTENSEN, WE'RE NOT TO GO.
UM, YEAH, I'LL JUST TRY TO ANSWER THESE ONE BY ONE.
SO THIS IS THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE FOR THE CUSTOMERS.
NOW, IF A CUSTOMER WANTS TO GO THIS WAY AND COME OUT HERE TO GO ALL THE WAY BACK UP, I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S THEIR PREROGATIVE.
MAYBE THEY HAVE A TRAILER OR SOMETHING.
THIS IS THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE FOR THE DELIVERIES.
OUR NORMAL HOURS ARE EIGHT TO EIGHT, EIGHT TO 9:00 PM UM, THERE IS A LOUD SPEAKER INSIDE THE STORE.
THERE IS SPEAKERS OUT IN HERE, BUT I MEAN, IT'S, THEY'RE NOT LOUD.
THEY'RE BASICALLY, AND THEY, THEY ALSO, THE DAYS OF THE OLD SPEAKERS, LIKE AT THE CAR LOTS ARE KIND OF GETTING PAST, PAST THEIR PRIME.
MOST PEOPLE HAVE HEADSETS AND THEY HAVE LITTLE WALKIE TALKIES AND THEY TALK TO EACH OTHER THAT WAY.
UM, THE BUILDING IS 78 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE A 30 FOOT BUILDING SETBACK LINE.
ALL WE HAVE IN THIS IS A DUMPSTER.
I'LL CERTAINLY TALK TO THEM ABOUT WHERE THEY WOULD LIKE THE DUMPSTER TO BE LOCATED.
UM, WE CAN PROBABLY RELOCATE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE ON THE SIDE OR SOMEWHERE JUST NOT AT THE FRONT DOOR.
I MEAN THIS IS THE FRONT DOOR RIGHT HERE, UH, IN THE PRIMARY PARKING AREA.
WHAT I WAS TRYING TO TELL THEM AT THE LAST MEETING, THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHICH
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RECOMMENDED APPROVAL, THIS IS A STEP OUT DRIVEWAY.SO MY CLIENT OWNS THE ENTIRE AREA UP HERE.
HE PLANS TO PUT RESTAURANT PAD SITES ON LOOP 1604 AND A SHOPPING STRIP, SHOPPING CENTER PROBABLY OVER HERE ON THE RIGHT.
THIS STUB OUT WILL EVENTUALLY CONNECT UP TO THE PARKING THAT WILL CONNECT TO 1604.
SO SOME CUSTOMERS AT SOME POINT IN TIME WILL COME THROUGH OFF OF 1604.
BUT UNTIL THAT AREA GETS DEVELOPED AND IT'S STILL PRETTY RURAL OUT HERE, IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE A LITTLE TIME IN THE FUTURE.
OUR PRIMARY ENTRANCE AND EXIT FOR TRAFFIC WILL BE OFF OF GUS MCCRAY LANE AT THE NORTHERN END OF THE PROPERTY.
BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, UM, ON THIS CASE.
AND AS I SAID, I HAVE REPRESENTATIVE FROM TRACTOR SUPPLY STORE HERE.
SO AGAIN, COMMISSIONER ALI HOLLAND.
UM, MR. CHRIS CHRISTENSEN, UH, DID I HEAR YOU CORRECTLY THAT YOU SAID YOU WERE WILLING TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME WITH THE NEIGHBORS TO HELP THEM UNDERSTAND THE SITE PLAN? YES.
I MEAN, I'LL, I'LL JUST SAY THIS.
I MEAN I'VE, I'VE SPOKEN TO BOTH OF THEM.
PLEASE INVITE ME OUT THERE TO A MEETING.
I WOULD LOVE TO TALK TO YOUR NEIGHBORS.
'CAUSE MOST OF THE TIME WHEN PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON, THEY AUTOMATICALLY ASSUME THE WORST.
UM, BUT YEAH, I'M HAPPY TO MEET WITH THEM ANYTIME.
WOULD YOU COME BACK UP? THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
I'M FEELING VERY STRONGLY THAT YOU ALL ARE CONCERNED AND, BUT YOU'RE ALSO VERY CURIOUS AND YOU'RE INTERESTED IN UNDERSTANDING MORE ABOUT THE IMPACT THIS PROPERTY WILL HAVE ON YOUR HOMES.
UM, AND I'M NOT HEARING A, NO WE DON'T WANT THIS, BUT MORE WE'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND ITS PLACEMENT AND THE DYNAMICS AROUND IT AND THEN WE WOULD MAKE A DECISION ABOUT YOUR SUPPORT.
AND YOU, IS THERE A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION? I MISSED THAT PART.
ARE YOU, DO YOU ALL HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION? H O A WITH ASSOCIATE BUT NOT SO MUCH.
THEY HAVEN'T BEEN INVOLVED HAVING TROUBLE COMMUNICATING WITH THEM AND TAKING OUR MONEY OR WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE COMMUNICATING WITH THEM.
UM, WELL WOULD YOU ALL BE WILLING TO COORDINATE MR. CHRIST CHRISTENSEN SPENDING TIME WITH YOU ALL TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL HAVE ABOUT THE PROPERTY? UM, AND THEN MR. CHRISTENSEN, WOULD YOUR CLIENT BE OPEN TO CONTINUANCE UNTIL THAT MEETING IS SET AND EVERYONE IS ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT WHAT THIS WILL LOOK LIKE IN PRACTICE? TWO WEEKS.
TWO WEEKS? IS THAT POSSIBLE TO DO A TWO WEEKS? IT IS POSSIBLE, BUT I'M GONNA TELL YOU YOUR AGENDA AGENDA'S VERY HEAVY ALREADY FOR APRIL 4TH, I'LL, I'LL BRING SNACKS.
I THINK THIS ONE BE QUICK NEXT STEP.
YEAH, I MEAN THE MAIN, JUST THE MAIN CONCERN WE HAVE IS WITH HIM COMING SO CLOSE ON OUR ROAD AND WHY THEY'RE NOT JUST DOING A ROAD DIRECTLY OFF 60 OH FROM THE GET-GO.
AND THAT'S OUR MAIN CONCERN IS HOW CLOSE THE ROAD IS TO COMING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOW CLOSE THE LOCATION IS TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
NOT THE FACT THAT IT'S TRACTOR SUPPLY.
UM, WE KNOW THAT THEY'LL WORK WITH US WITH A NOISE, DOWNWARD FACING LIGHTS.
HOPEFULLY PUT A, A REALLY GOOD FENCE IN NOT JUST A WOOD FENCE THAT'S GONNA FALL APART OR A WALL IN EVEN.
I MEAN, THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF NOISE IN THE FUTURE.
I KNOW WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE.
SO THAT'S OUR CONCERNS IS THE LOCATION OF THE EXIT ENTRANCE AND IT BEING SO CLOSE TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HOOD.
I AM COMFORTABLE ADDING THIS TO THE AGENDA IN TWO WEEKS.
OBVIOUSLY I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS AND LEAN ON THEIR WISDOM AND, AND HOW THEY'D GUIDE ME MY POSITION ON THIS.
BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT Y'ALL COULD BENEFIT FROM SOME TIME TOGETHER, UH, THAT THE NEIGHBORS ARE WILLING TO ACCEPT THIS CHANGE, BUT THEY JUST NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE DETAILS A BIT MORE.
UH, PERSONALLY, THIS MAP MADE MY EYES CROSS SO THIS SITE PLAN AND SO I COMMEND YOU ALL FOR TAKING THE TIME TO FULLY UNDERSTAND AND ASK THE DETAILED QUESTIONS THAT YOU ASKED HERE TODAY.
AND, UM, KNOW THAT MR. CHRISTENSEN WILL FACILITATE A GREAT SESSION AND ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER? WE YES.
UH, QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT? YES, COMMISSIONER.
SO I HAVE NOT HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF GOING TO A TRACTOR SUPPLY STORE.
SO IS THERE, UH, AMPLIFIED OUTDOOR MUSIC OR, UH, AT THESE UH, LOCATIONS? IT, IT'S NOT MUSIC.
IT WOULD JUST BE FRED CLEAN UP ON L 12 KIND OF A THING, YOU KNOW, OR, OR FRED CAN YOU HELP SOMEONE CARRY SOMETHING OUT TO THEIR CAR? KIND OF A OKAY.
ALL RIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS? COMMERS ON MY LEFT.
COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE AHEAD.
ALRIGHT, SO PATRICK, ONE THING LOOKING AT THE PLANE, I DON'T SEE ANY KIND OF LANDSCAPING BETWEEN, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE TRACTOR SUPPLY UNIT ON THAT SOUTH SIDE, UH, SOUTH ISH SIDE I GUESS.
UM, SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER AS WELL? SURE.
WE CAN TALK ABOUT PLANTING SOME FAST GROWING TREES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO HELP.
SHE, UM, YOU KNOW, I ALSO SHARE SOME CONCERN REGARDING THE DUMPSTER WITHIN 15 FEET OF THAT PROPERTY.
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THAT.THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO THERE, UH, DOWNWARD FACING LIGHTING, UH, OF COURSE THAT, UH, MS. MCCARTHY MENTIONED.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK, I THINK THERE'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY AS, UH, CHAIR, UH, COMMISSIONER LU HOLLAND SAID, UH, TO FIND A, A MUTUALLY ACCEPTABLE SOLUTION HERE.
AND I JUST WANTED TO SORT OF GIVE THOSE TO MR. LYMAN AND MS. MCCARTHY, UH, THAT THOSE ARE OTHER THINGS YOU CAN LOOK AT AS SORT OF A LANDSCAPING TYPE ANSWER TO, IN ADDITION TO PRIVACY FENCING OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
I, I JUST WANTED TO ALSO ADD TO, UH, COMMISSIONER BUSTA MONTES, IT IS PART OF CODE FOR A COMMERCIAL, UM, USE LIKE THIS.
THERE WILL BE A REQUIRED 15 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER ALONG THAT BECAUSE THEY ARE, UH, ABUTTING RE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND THEN THAT THEY ALSO WILL BE REQUIRED TO BUILD A SIX FOOT SOLID FENCE ALONG THAT SIDE THERE.
SO YOU ARE, WHEN THEY PULL PERMITS IT WILL BE ENFORCED.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER REBATO, IT SEEMED LIKE YOU HAD, OR KELLY SAID EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED TO SAY SO I DON'T WANT TO REPEAT MYSELF.
IT, IT IS A BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS, SO THEY'RE, UH, I'VE BEEN IN SEVERAL OF THESE STORES AND THEY'RE VERY WELL DONE.
MY ONLY ISSUES, UH, COMMISSIONER GUSMAN BROUGHT IT UP, THE LIGHTING DOWN IS PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT.
THE REST CAN ALL BE WORKED OUT, UM, DURING THE CITY PERMANENT PROCESS.
UH, COMMISSIONER ORTIZ, MY THING IS JUST TO ACTUALLY ASK CITY STAFF, WHEN IS THIS GOING TO CITY COUNCIL? ANY CASE THAT COMES BEFORE YOU GUYS IS GENERALLY NOT SCHEDULED FOR 30 DAYS.
SO IT TAKES A WHOLE MONTH TO GET IT ON AN AGENDA.
SO TECHNICALLY IN THOSE 30 DAYS, THEY COULD SIT DOWN WITH MR. CHRISTENSEN, GET ALL THIS ADDRESS BEFORE THEY GO.
SO BACK TO YOU COMMISSIONER LEG HOLLAND FOR A MOTION AND HELP ME HERE IF I DON'T GET THE MOTION CORRECT, BUT, UH, CONSIDERING THAT, UH, THE PARTIES ARE WILLING TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TOGETHER AND HASH OUT THE DETAILS THAT WERE SUGGESTED IN ADDITION TO THE ONES THAT WERE RAISED TODAY, I'M MOTIONING FOR CONTINUANCE TWO WEEKS.
MOTION IS FOR A CONTINUANCE OF TWO WEEKS.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE.
ANY DISCUSSION LOOKING LEFT? COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE BRIEFLY AND I, I KNOW WHERE COMMISSIONER ORTIZ IS GOING AND I THINK WITH THE TWO WEEKS, I THINK GIVING THEM 45 DAYS TOTAL TO SORT OF WADE THROUGH THESE ISSUES, I, I THINK IS A LITTLE MORE REASONABLE.
AND SINCE THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THEY'RE AMENABLE TO TWO WEEKS, THAT'S WHY I'M SUPPORTING THIS MOTION AND HAVE SECONDED IT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? LOOKING LEFT.
MOTION IS FOR A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE BY COMMISSIONER LAG HOLLAND.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE.
[20. Minutes Consideration and approval of March 7, 2023, Zoning Commission Minutes.]
ALL RIGHT.I BELIEVE THAT'S ALL OF OUR ZONING CASES.
SO DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS, CONCERNS, CHANGES TO THE MINUTES? I HAVE A COMMENT AND THAT IS ON ITEM, UM, 12 OF THE MINUTES.
AND ON ITEM 12, UH, IT SAYS IT STATES MOTION COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE TO DENY ITEM AS PRESENTED.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON IN FAVOR.
I DON'T THINK THAT IS CORRECT BECAUSE THEN BECAUSE THE MOTION FAILED BECAUSE WE HAD TO RECONSIDER IT.
SO WE JUST NEED TO REMEMBER WHO VOTED WHAT AND I HONESTLY, I CAN'T REMEMBER.
WE CAN AMEND IT, UM, AFTER WE REVIEW THE VIDEO.
OKAY, OTHER THAN THAT, ANY OTHER CONCERNS? IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION MAYBE OR MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES, UH, WITH THE AMENDMENT AS STATED ON THE RECORD.
UH, MOTION
WE HAVE A, ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER KAMATH ABSTAINS.
UM, DO WE HAVE A DIRECTOR'S REPORT OR ANYTHING? NOTHING TO REPORT OTHER THAN, UM, FOR THE NEXT MEETING IT'LL BE MERKO AND KELLY, I'LL BE OUT OF TOWN FOR A CONFERENCE, SO IF
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YOU THINK OF ANYTHING BEFOREHAND THAT YOU NEED HELP WITH, LET US KNOW.HOW, WHO'S GONNA KEEP US? WHO'S GONNA KEEP ME ALL IN CHECK? I'M GONNA HAVE TO RELY ON ALL THE COMMISSIONERS AS USUAL.
UM, THE TIME IS THREE 30 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.