* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:18] GOOD MORNING. WELCOME EVERYONE TO THE MARCH MEETING OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. MADAM CLERK, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL RULE COUNCIL MEMBER BRAVO HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER MCKEE RODRIGUEZ. COUNCIL MEMBER VRAN HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER CHAIR. KEO HDA. HERE, CHAIR, WE HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU'ALL FOR BEING HERE. WE BEGIN THE PLANNED PART OF OUR MEETING. UM, BEFORE WE BEGIN THE PLANNED PART OF OUR MEETING, I WANNA BRING OUR ATTENTION TO THE TRAGIC INCIDENT THIS PAST WEEKEND WHERE A 12 YEAR OLD WAS KILLED BY GUNFIRE. UM, THE INCIDENT ACTUALLY HAPPENED IN MY DISTRICT RIGHT BY NELSON WOLF STADIUM, AND I WANNA SAY, UH, HER NAME WAS REBECCA RODRIGUEZ. SHE WAS AT A GATHERING WITH HER FRIENDS AND, UM, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, OF COURSE, IS DOING THEIR JOB AND INVESTIGATING, BUT HER FAMILY IS GRE GRIEVING. THE EDGEWOOD COMMUNITY IS GRIEVING. AND I JUST WANNA, UM, HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR HER, PLEASE. THANK YOU. THE FIRST ITEM [Approval of Minutes  ] ON OUR AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM OUR FEBRUARY 21ST MEETING. DO I HAVE A MOTION OR A SECOND? MOTION TO APPROVE? SECOND. UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYE. OKAY. MOTION CARRIES. MINUTES ARE APPROVED. [CONSENT AGENDA  ] MOVING ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. ARE THERE ANY ITEMS THAT, UM, YOU WANNA PULL FOR DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN ANY MOTIONS TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. UH, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS THREE AND FOUR SECOND. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? DID YOU VOTE? OKAY. SORRY. OKAY. UM, UH, MOTION PASSES. WE'LL NOW BEGIN WITH PUBLIC COMMENT. DID WE HAVE ANY, ANYBODY SIGN UP TO SPEAK? OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, WITH NO PUBLIC [Briefing and Possible Action on  ] COMMENT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM TWO, A BRIEFING ON THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO MUNICIPAL COURT JUVENILE COURT CASE MANAGER PROGRAM, AND BEXAR COUNTY 4 36 JUVENILE DISTRICT COURT. AT THIS TIME, WE'LL INVITE JUDGE ODO UP. GOOD MORNING. I AM CARLO ODO. I AM THE PRESIDING JUDGE OF THE SAN ANTONIO MUNICIPAL COURT. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THIS COMMITTEE THIS MORNING. UM, THE SAN ANTONIO MUNICIPAL COURT JUVENILE SERVICES PROGRAM TAKES A RESTORATIVE APPROACH IN ADDRESSING THE NEEDS OF JUVENILES THAT ARE REFERRED TO COURT. THE PRIMARY GOALS, IN ADDITION TO MAINTAINING PUBLIC SAFETY, ARE EDUCATION ACCOUNTABILITY, INCREASED AWARENESS OF HOW A JUVENILE'S ACTIONS CAN AFFECT THEM AND OTHERS. AND WHEN POSSIBLE, THE COURT SEEKS TO KEEP A JUVENILE RECORD, A JUVENILE COURT RECORD CLEAR OF VIOLATIONS. IN ADDITION TO PROVIDING TRUANCY PREVENTION AND INTERVENTION SERVICES, JUVENILE CASE MANAGERS ASSIST THE COURT IN PROVIDING SERVICES TO CHILDREN AGES 10 TO 16, CHARGED WITH BOTH TRAFFIC AND NON-TRAFFIC. CLASS C MISDEMEANOR VIOLATIONS. HOUSE BILL 2398 CHANGED THE WAY SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND COURTS TREATED CHILDREN WHO HAVE UNEXCUSED ABSENCES FROM SCHOOL. FAILURE TO ATTEND SCHOOL WAS DECRIMINALIZED. AND SINCE 2015, MAY ONLY BE TREATED AS A CIVIL CASE AGAINST A STUDENT, PARENTS OR GUARDIANS CAN STILL BE CHARGED WITH A CRIMINAL, THE CRIMINAL OFFENSE OF PARENT CONTRIBUTING TO NON-ATTENDANCE. BUT ONLY AFTER ALL OTHER ATTEMPTS AT ADDRESSING TRUANT CONDUCT HAVE BEEN EXHAUSTED. EACH JUVENILE CASE MANAGER BRINGS THEIR OWN EXPERIENCE AND EXPERTISE TO THE PROGRAM. SOMETHING THAT IS IMPORTANT TO MENTION IS THE COLLABORATIONS THAT JUVENILE CASE MANAGERS HAVE WITH LOCAL NONPROFIT AGENCIES. THIS ALLOWS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES ON TOP OF WHAT THE SCHOOLS AND THE COURT ALREADY PROVIDE. EXAMPLES INCLUDE VACCINATIONS, ACCESS TO PHYSICALS, AND IN SOME CASES, UTILITY AND FOOD ASSISTANCE. WHEN A JUVENILE APPEARS IN COURT, THE JUDGE CAN ORDER PARTICIPATION IN COURT PROGRAMS [00:05:01] DEPENDING ON HIS OR HER NEEDS. ONE OF THOSE PROGRAMS, UM, ARE YOUTH ENRICHMENT CLASSES, WHICH ARE A SIX COURSE CURRICULUM. CLASSES INCLUDE ENHANCING ASSERTIVENESS, TEEN SOCIAL SKILLS, UNDERAGE DRIVING, MENTAL HEALTH, HUMAN TRAFFICKING, AND TEEN DATING. THE CLASSES ARE HELD ON SATURDAY MORNINGS AND ARE ORGANIZED AND TAUGHT BY THE JUVENILE CASE MANAGERS. THE COURT COLLABORATES WITH THE CITY'S PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT WHEN ORDERING COMMUNITY SERVICE HOURS. THE FOCUS IS NOT ONLY ON MANUAL LABOR, BUT THE JUVENILE CASE MANAGERS INCLUDE AN EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT. THE GOAL IS TO TAKE JUVENILES OUT OF THEIR NORMAL ENVIRONMENTS AND EXPOSE THEM TO ACTIVITIES THAT THEY WOULD NOT OTHERWISE HAVE EXPERIENCED IN THE PAST. THIS HAS INCLUDED TRIPS TO LOCAL PARKS, NATURE NATURE CENTERS, WHERE THEY LEARN ABOUT NATIVE PLANTS. THEY'RE ABLE TO TAKE A TOUR OF, OF, UH, THE NATURE AREA, AND ALSO PRESENTATIONS AND TOURS OF MUSEUMS AND THE ZOO. THERE'S ALSO A COLLABORATION WITH U T S A TO PROVIDE COUNSELING SERVICES. WHOOPS, I'M SORRY. THE PEER COURT PROGRAM IS A LONGSTANDING COLLABORATION WITH ST. MARY'S SCHOOL OF LAW. IT CONTINUES TO BE A GOOD TOOL FOR THE COURT TO USE. IT GIVES JUVENILES WHO PARTICIPATE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN ABOUT THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM AND EXPOSE THEM TO CAREERS IN THE LEGAL FIELD. IF REFERRED TO PEER COURT BY THE JUDGE, THE JUVENILE MUST COMPLETE THE REQUIREMENTS ASSIGNED BY THE JURY OF PEERS FOR THE CASE TO BE CLOSED SUCCESSFULLY. MOST OF THE WORK THAT JUVENILE CASE MANAGERS ARE INVOLVED WITH IS TRUANCY PREVENTION AND INTERVENTION. PARENTS AND OR GUARDIANS OF CHILDREN AS YOUNG AS FOUR YEARS OLD, UP TO AGE 18 CAN BE REFER REFERRED TO COURT FOR TRUANT CONDUCT. CHILDREN 12 AND UNDER USUALLY ARE NOT EXPECTED TO APPEAR IN COURT. UM, BUT, AND PRIOR TO INTERVENTION, THE JUVENILE CASE MANAGER SUPPORT SCHOOLS AND WORK WITH STUDENTS, PARENTS AND GUARDIANS TO FIND SOLUTIONS TO TRUANT CONDUCT. SCHOOL DISTRICTS RECEIVING FULL SERVICES HAVE A JUVENILE CASE MANAGER ON CAMPUS WHO WILL CONDUCT HOME VISITS, MAKE PHONE CALLS, WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR CASE MANAGEMENT SERVICES, AND IF NEEDED, WE'LL ASSIST A STUDENT WITH COMPLETE WRAPAROUND SERVICES. THE DISTRICTS ON THE BOTTOM AT THE RIGHT ARE PROVIDED MEDIATION SERVICES ONLY. TRUANCY PREVENTION BEGINS WITH THE SCHOOL FORUM. THERE ARE SCHOOL DISTRICT EVENTS THAT J JUVENILE CASE, UM, EXCUSE ME. THESE ARE SCHOOL DISTRICT EVENTS THAT JUVENILE CASE MANAGERS ATTEND TO PROVIDE SUPPORT AND EDUCATION. IF THE TRUE BEHAVIOR ESCALATES, THE NEXT STEP IS AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE JUVENILE CASE MANAGER, THE STUDENT, AND THE PARENT OR GUARDIAN. THE AGREEMENTS ARE TYPICALLY FOR 45 DAYS AND CAN INCLUDE ATTENDANCE, RECOVERY PARAMETERS FOR ATTENDANCE, RECEIVING OR, AND OR RECEIVING, PARTICIPATING, RECEIVING, OR PARTICIPATING IN SCHOOL-BASED SERVICES. IF THE BEHAVIOR ESCALATES FURTHER, THE STUDENT IS SUMMONED TO COURT ALONG WITH HIS OR HER PARENT OR GUARDIAN. AND IF THERE IS STILL NO CHANGE IN BEHAVIOR, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT CAN INITIATE A CRIMINAL FILING AGAINST THE PARENT OR GUARDIAN. THESE FIGURES ARE BASED ON 2023 ACADEMIC YEAR PARTICIPATION BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN COURT. PRO PROGRAMS IS VOLUNTARY, BUT EVERY EFFORT IS MADE TO PRIORITIZE THOSE DISTRICTS WITH THE GREATEST NEED. THE PANDEMIC AFFECTED ABOUT THREE ACADEMIC YEARS DURING THE PANDEMIC. THE FOCUS, UH, BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS WAS NOT ON TRUANCY. THE 20 22, 20 23 FIGURES ARE THROUGH THE END OF FEBRUARY. THOSE FIGURES AT THE BOTTOM. AND, UM, THIS YEAR'S FIGURES ARE ON TRACK TO SURPASS 2019. NO, THIS, UH, THIS CHART IS GONNA TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF EXPLAINING, SO I'M GONNA DO MY BEST TO EXPLAIN THAT TO YOU. UM, THIS REPRESENTS AN ESCALATION OF SERVICES SINCE 2018. THE FIGURES ACROSS THE TOP SHOW THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS ATTENDING FORUMS FOR EACH ACADEMIC YEAR. THE PERCENTAGES ACROSS THE MIDDLE ARE THE PERCENTAGES OF STUDENTS WHO RECEIVED AN ESCALATION OF SERVICES BY WAY OF CONTRACTUAL INTERVENTION. SO THAT MEANS THAT THEY ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE JUVENILE CASE MANAGERS. FOR EXAMPLE, IN ACADEMIC YEAR 18, 79% OF THE 4,843 STUDENTS WHO ATTENDED FORUMS ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH A JUVENILE CASE MANAGER. [00:10:01] THE FIGURES AT THE BOTTOM REPRESENT THE PERCENTAGE OF STUDENTS WHO REQUIRED COURT INTERVENTION. THAT MEANS THAT IN ACADEMIC YEAR 20 18, 50 2% OF THE STUDENTS WHO ATTENDED FORUMS ALSO REQUIRED MEDIATION INTERVENTION. THE ARROWS POINTING UP AND DOWN SHOW THE CHANGE FROM YEAR TO YEAR. SO ALONG THE BOTTOM, UM, IN ACADEMIC YEAR 2019, THERE WAS, THERE WERE LESS STUDENTS ATTENDING, UH, REQUIRING MEDIATION INTERVENTION COMPARED TO ACADEMIC YEAR 2018, THE FUTURE OF TRUANCY SERVICES. UM, THE COURT WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE COMPLYING WITH THE LAW. WE ARE REEVALUATING HOW COURT ADDRESSES TRUANT BEHAVIOR AND THE SERVICES THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO OFFER. THE COURT IS SEEKING TO REMAIN EFFICIENT WHILE EMPOWERING STUDENTS AND OR GUARDIANS AT, AT THE SAME TIME. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE ARE LOOKING AT ACCOMPLISHING THIS WITH LESS PERSONNEL AND LESS DOLLARS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, JUDGE. UH, WE'LL INVITE, UH, JUDGE SHAW NOW TO COME UP AND, AND TALK TO US. QUESTIONS? YEAH. AFTER, WE'LL DO THE TWO PRESENTATIONS TOGETHER. OKAY. DO Y'ALL PREFER TO ASK QUESTIONS NOW? YEAH. WE'LL, WE'LL DO QUESTIONS AFTER. YOU DON'T CHAIR THIS COMMITTEE ANYMORE. I GET TO RUN IT. , WE ALWAYS PICKING ON ME. COUNCILWOMAN . ARE WE GOOD? LEMME PUT THIS DOWN. ALL RIGHT. GOOD. MANY, UH, GOOD MORNING, UH, CHAIRWOMAN AND COUNCIL. THIS, THIS IS A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE OF BEING UP HERE INSTEAD OF, INSTEAD OF SITTING DOWN THERE WITH YOU ALL. BUT, UH, I'M GLAD THAT COUNCILMAN HDA INVITED US TODAY TO SPEAK ABOUT JUVENILES IN THE BEXAR COUNTY SYSTEM. BEFORE WE GET STARTED, UH, THESE ARE THE JUDGES THAT REPRESENT THE JUVENILE COURTS. WE HAVE, UH, JUDGE, UH, HER VALDEZ, WHICH IS HERE, AND SHE'S IN THE, UH, 3 86. WE ALSO HAVE MYSELF IN THE 4 36. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE, UH, JUDGE SOSA THAT'S IN THE 3 86 ALSO, AND STAFF MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE THIS MORNING. WE HAVE THE CHIEF PROBATION OFFICER, JILL MATA, HER DEPUTIES, UH, CARL JOHNSON, AND THEN THE COURT ADMIN ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE JUVENILE COURTS, UH, MS. LAURA ANGELINI. NOW, WE'LL JUST DIVE RIGHT INTO THIS. WE HAVE TWO FACILITIES IN BEXAR COUNTY THAT HOUSE JUVENILES. SO ONCE A CHILD IS ARRESTED HERE IN BEXAR COUNTY, BETWEEN THE AGES OF 10 AND 17, FOR MINOR MISDEMEANORS OR UP TO, UH, FELONIES, THEY CAN BE SENT HERE TO, UM, JUVENILE DETENTION CENTER. WE CURRENTLY HAVE 278 BEDS, A FEW POSITIONS OPEN, AS WELL AS THE LENGTH OF STAY. IT'S 18 DAYS. NOW. I WANT TO ADDRESS THE 18 DAY MARK. THE 18 DAY MARK IS, IS PREDOMINANTLY FOR KIDS WHO ARE ARRESTED. THE MORE THAN LIKELY IT'LL BE RELEASED BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY. IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO REALIZE THAT WE DON'T HAVE A BOND SYSTEM IN JUVENILE, SO WE HAVE TO HAVE A DETENTION HEARING AT LEAST WITHIN EVERY 10 DAYS, SO THAT THAT LENGTH OF STAY IS BE MORE FOCUSED ON THOSE YOUNG INDIVIDUALS, KIDS THAT ARE MORE LIKELY TO GO TO PLACEMENT OR LIKELY TO GO TO T J J D OR COMMITTED SOMEWHERE ELSE, OR GOING TO STAY A LITTLE BIT LONGER TRYING TO FIND A BED. WE ALSO HAVE THE CINDY TAYLOR CRYER CENTER. AND THIS IS A FASCINATING FACILITY THAT'S RUN BY PROBATION HERE IN THE COUNTY. AND WHAT THIS PLACEMENT FACILITY HOLDS IS KIDS THAT ARE PLACED ON PROBATION, BUT THEY'RE REMOVED FROM THE HOME TO RECEIVE THESE SERVICES. UH, BEHAVIORAL TREATMENT INTERVENTIONS, EDUCATION, TECHNICAL CERTIFICATIONS AND ENRICHMENT PROGRAMS. THE IDEA OF THE CRIER FACILITY IS TO SEND THEM BACK HOME INTO THEIR COMMUNITIES PRIOR WORKS SPECIFICALLY WITH THE YOUTH AND THEIR FAMILY TO READJUST ONCE THEY GET BACK INTO THEIR COMMUNITIES, AND CAN HOPEFULLY DETER FROM ANY CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR THAT LED THEM THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE. AND IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO, TO KEEP IN MIND ON PROBATION SIDE, ONCE A CHILD IS ADJUDICATED OR FOUND TRUE OR GUILTY IN THE JUVENILE COURT, UH, PROBATION TYPICALLY LIKES TO RECOMMEND A STEP UP PROCESS, MEANING PROBATION FIRST IN THE COMMUNITY. IF THAT'S NOT WORKING AND THAT CHILD'S RE-OFFENDING, THEN POTENTIALLY CRIER. AND THEN IF THAT'S NOT WORKING, AND IF IT'S A FELONY CHARGE, WE CAN SEND THEM SOMEWHERE ELSE CALLED T J J D AND WE'LL ADDRESS THAT LATER ON. SO THE JUVENILE JUSTICE SYSTEM, THE AGES THAT WE DEAL WITH ARE FROM 10 TO SIX 16. UM, THEORETICALLY, WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO WORK WITH 17 YEAR OLDS, 18 AND 19 AND BEYOND FOR SERIOUS, UH, FELONY OFFENSES. ALSO, WE RECOGNIZE THAT CHILDREN ARE DIFFERENT. SO AS MANY [00:15:01] OF US KNOW THAT A CHILD'S BRAIN DEVELOPS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, OR IT'S NOT DEVELOPED UNTIL THEY'RE 26, 27 YEARS OLD, AND THEY HAVE DIFFERENT CHARACTERISTICS, DIFFERENT BEHAVIORS THAT AREN'T REALLY EASILY, UM, ABLE TO ADJUST TO CERTAIN ENVIRONMENTS. SO WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THESE KIDS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, THEIR FAMILIES. BECAUSE ONCE THEY'RE ON PROBATION, MORE LIKELY THAN NOT, THEY'RE GOING TO BE LIVING AT HOME OR WITH A GUARDIAN. SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DO WRAPAROUND SERVICES FROM THE PROBATION SIDE TO MAKE SURE THIS CHILD DOES NOT RECIDIVATE. WE ALSO LOOK AT REHABILITATION. THE STANDARD, THE LEGAL STANDARD THAT WE USE IN JUVENILE IS THE BEST INTEREST OF THAT CHILD. SO WE LOOK TO REHABILITATE FIRST, AND, BUT WE, AT THE SAME TIME, MAKING SURE THAT THERE IS ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THESE CHILD'S, THESE CHILDREN'S ACTIONS, WHETHER IT BE A THEFT OR A VIOLENT OFFENSE. NOW, THESE ARE THE DEMOGRAPHICS THAT WE'RE SEEING UP TO 2022. UH, MAJORITY OF THE, THE CHILDREN THAT ARE, OR YOUTH THAT COME THROUGH, JUVENILE OR MALE. AND YOU'LL SEE THE TERM, UH, REFERRED. ANY CHILD THAT TOUCHES THE JUVENILE SYSTEM IS CALLED A REFERRAL. OKAY? SO WE WON'T CLASSIFY IT AS AN ARREST OR ANYTHING ELSE. IT'S A REFERRAL TO THE DEPARTMENT. AND AS, AS WELL, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE MAJORITY OF KIDS THAT WE DO SEE ARE BETWEEN THE AGES OF 15 AND 16. AND LET ME JUST BACK UP A LITTLE BIT. I JUMPED THE GUN ON THIS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CLEAR ON THE JUVENILE SIDE, THEY ARE DISTRICT COURTS. SO WE HEAR ALL CASES THAT ARE MISDEMEANORS, WHICH CAN BE A POSSESSION OF MARIJUANA, ALL THE WAY UP TO CAPITAL MURDER. NOW, THESE ARE SPECIALTY COURTS, AND THIS IS THE 3 86 SPECIALTY COURT THAT'S, UM, PRESIDED BY, UH, JUDGE VALDEZ. NOW SHE HAS THE, EVERY COURT HAS THE PRE ADJUDICATION DRUG COURT. SO IF A CHILD'S ARRESTED FOR A DRUG OFFENSE, TYPICALLY MISDEMEANOR OFFENSES, THEY HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO BE IN PRE ADJUDICATION DRUG COURT, MEANING THEY HAVE NOT PLED TRUE SLASH GUILTY TO THE OFFENSE. BUT WITH THOSE DRUG COURTS, UM, LET ME SEE. IT'S A, IT'S A COLLABORATION BETWEEN PROBATION, AN ATTORNEY, UM, THE JUDGE, AS WELL AS, UH, OUTSIDE AGENCIES. AND IN THIS, THEY GET COUNSELING, REGULAR SCHOOL ATTENDANCE, DRUG TESTING, AND A CURFEW. AND THERE'S MONTHLY COURT APPEARANCES WITH THE JUDGE AND ALL STAFF MEMBERS INVOLVED IN THE PRE ADJUDICATION DRUG COURT. IF THAT CHILD SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETES PRE ADJUDICATION DRUG COURT, THAT CASE IS DISMISSED AND THAT CHILD DOES NOT HAVE TO COME BACK TO COURT. JUDGE VALDEZ ALSO OVERSEES THE POST ADJUDICATION, UH, SUBSTANCE ABUSE COURT. THESE ARE YOUNG FOLKS WHO HAVE ALREADY PLED TO A DRUG OFFENSE AND RECEIVE THE SAME SERVICES ON THE BACKEND. IF THEY COMPLETE THESE SERVICES, THEIR CASES CAN BE SEALED LEGALLY AND PROBATION PAYS FOR THAT SERVICE. THEN WE ALSO HAVE STRIVE COURT. STRIVE COURT, I BELIEVE, WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2018, AND IT'S AN ACRONYM FOR SUCCESS, TENACITY, RESPECT, INTEGRITY, AND VICTORY. AND WHAT JUDGE VALDEZ WORKS ON IS FOCUSING ON THE EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR THESE YOUNG FOLKS AND TRY TO REEVALUATE THE IMPORTANCE OF EDUCATION. MAJORITY, I WOULD SAY AT LEAST 85 TO 90% OF THE KIDS THAT WE SEE SCHOOL IS NOT A PRIORITY. IT'S EVEN IF THEY'RE GOING TO SCHOOL. SO WHAT THIS COURT, WHAT THIS COURT DOES IS FOCUS ON REEVALUATING THEIR, UH, THEIR PRIORITIES AND GETTING THEM IN SCHOOL. WE UNDERSTAND THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE PERFECT STUDENTS, BUT WE TRY TO CRAWL BEFORE WE WALK, AT LEAST GET THEM GOING TO SCHOOL CONSISTENTLY. SHE ALSO HAS THE CROSSROADS COURT, WHICH IS A GIRL'S MENTAL HEALTH DOCKET. UM, ALL THESE GIRLS OR YOUNG LADIES ARE ON A DEFERRED PROSECUTION, AND THEY HAVE A MENTAL HEALTH DIAGNOSIS. SO THEY HAVE SPECIAL, UH, PROGRAMS AND RELATIONSHIPS WITH FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WORK WITH THESE YOUNG FOLKS TO KEEP THEM FROM COMING BACK TO THE JUVENILE JUSTICE SYSTEM. THEN FINALLY, WE, EVERY COURT HAS THE REENTRY COURT. SO IF A CHILD IS PLACED IN CRIER BEFORE COMING OUT, GOING BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY, THEY MEET WITH THE JUDGE OF THAT COURT, AND THEN THEY DE DEVELOP A PLAN. ONCE THAT CHILD IS BACK AT HOME, THEY MEET WITH THAT COURT STAFF AT LEAST TWICE A MONTH. THE IDEA IS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SLOWLY REINTEGRATED THEM BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY AND HAVING SEVERAL TOUCHES WITH PROBATION, UM, COURT STAFF, AS WELL AS THE JUDGE. EVERY COURT IN BEXAR COUNTY JUVENILE COURT IN BEXAR COUNTY HAS A REENTRY COURT. AND THEN FOR THE 4 36, WHICH IS THE COURT THAT I PRESIDE OVER, WE'D ALSO DO THE PRE ADJUDICATION DRUG COURT. BUT WE ALSO HAVE THE MINE COURT, WHICH IS THE SAME THING AS CROSSROADS, BUT IT'S FOR OUR YOUNG BOYS. WE HAVE A GANG COURT, WHICH WE SPECIFICALLY FOCUS ON KIDS WHO ARE CLASSIFIED AS GANG AFFILIATED, AS WELL AS GUN OFFENSES. BUT WITH THE GUN OFFENSES, THEY CANNOT PULL A [00:20:01] TRIGGER. SO IF THEY'RE CAUGHT WITH A GUN, MORE LIKELY THAN NOT, THEY CAN BE PLACED IN THAT GANG COURT, AND WE CAN READDRESS THOSE ISSUES. AND THEN ALSO, WE HAVE THE REENTRY COURT, AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED. AND THESE ARE THE, THE COURTS THAT JUDGE SOSA PRESIDES OVER AGAIN, THE PRE ADJUDICATION DRUG COURT. NOW, THE CROSSOVER COURT IS A REALLY EXCITING COURT BECAUSE IT'S A, UM, DUAL STATUS COURT. SO THESE ARE THE KIDS THAT ARE IN C P SS CARE THAT PICK UP CRIMINAL OFFENSES. SO INSTEAD OF DUPLICATING SERVICES, IT'S ONE STREAMLINED SET OF SERVICES PROVIDED BY JUVENILE AS WELL AS C P S. UM, THE, THE RESTORE COURT. THE RESTORE COURT IS GEARED TOWARDS, UH, YOUNG LADIES AND MEN THAT HAVE, UH, BEEN SEXUALLY EXPLOITED OR, UM, THEY'RE AT HIGH RISK OF BEING EXPLOITED. SO WITH THIS COURT, THEY LOOK AT, UH, PREVENTION, EFFECTIVE INTERVENTION, AND AT SOMETIMES PROTECTION FROM THE ABUSERS. WE ALSO HAVE THE FAMILY ENRICHMENT COURT. THE FAMILY ENRICHMENT COURT IS SOMEWHAT LIKE A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE COURT FOR YOUTH. THESE ARE ARE YOUNG FOLKS THAT ARE VERY AGGRESSIVE. EITHER THEY FIGHT AT SCHOOL, OR MORE IMPORTANTLY, THEY COME FROM A FAMILY THAT'S KNOWN TO BE AGGRESSIVE OR THEY, THEY FIGHT AMONGST THEIR SIBLINGS. THE DAYS THAT WE, WE FIGHT WITH YOUR, YOUR, YOUR SISTERS AND BROTHERS OR FATHER AT SCHOOL, THOSE DAYS ARE GONE. WHEN YOU JUST KIND OF GET A SLAP ON THE WRIST AND YOU GO STAND IN THE CORNER, THOSE DAYS ARE GONE. SO, SO NOW PEOPLE ARE BEING ARRESTED AND WE'RE TRYING TO, UM, ADDRESS THOSE, THOSE AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIORS WITH THAT COURT. AND THEN, AS MENTIONED BEFORE, WE HAVE THE REENTRY COURT TRANSITIONING FROM CRIER INTO OUR COMMUNITIES. AND THESE ARE THE PROBATION, UH, UNITS THAT SUPERVISE EACH ONE OF THESE SPECIALTY COURTS. WE HAVE THE GANG MENTAL HEALTH, SUBSTANCE ABUSE, THE SEX, SEX OFFENDER INTERVENTION, THE DOMESTIC MINOR SEX TRAFFICKING AND RESIDENTIAL SERVICES. AND EACH ONE OF THESE CATEGORIES, PROBATION IS TRAINED IN THESE CATEGORIES. SO WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO THAT SPECIALTY COURT, THEY HAVE EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH THESE YOUTH AND HOW TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES. NOW, THIS IS WHAT I THINK, UH, COUNCILMAN WANT TO SEE THE MOST OF IS THE TRENDS. SO THESE ARE THE TRENDS THAT WE'VE SEEN FROM YEAR TO DATE THROUGH FEBRUARY, 2022. AS YOU CAN SEE, EVERYTHING'S INCREASING. OUR VIOLENT, UH, OFFENDERS OR VIOLENT REFERRALS IS UP 27%. SO THAT INCLUDES MURDERS, THAT INCLUDES AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS, AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS WITH A DEADLY WEAPON. ALL THOSE REFERRALS ARE INCREASING AS OF NOW. THEN WE HAVE THE NONVIOLENT FELONY REFERRALS, WHICH IS UP 135. YEAH, 135%, WHICH IS FELONIES THAT ARE TYPICALLY NONVIOLENT, UH, UNAUTHORIZED USE FOR A MOTOR VEHICLE, CERTAIN DRUG OFFENSES. UM, THOSE ARE REALLY ESCALATING IN, IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND THEN THE, THE TOTAL FELONY REFERRALS, AS YOU CAN SEE, IS 92%. AND IF YOU CAN SEE THE SLASH, SO THE 3 84 OVER 200. SO THIS TIME LAST YEAR WE'RE AT 200. THIS TIME WE'RE AT 3 84. AND THAT, THAT REFERS TO ALL THE INCREASES THAT WE'RE SEEING, UM, WITH OUR REFERRALS. AND THEN FINALLY, OUR MISDEMEANORS, OUR CLASS A AND CLASS B REFERRALS ARE UP 23.7%. THOSE ARE GONNA BE OUR CASES, LIKE EVADING ARRESTS ON FOOT, POSSESSION OF MARIJUANA. UM, GIMME ANOTHER ONE. RESISTING, RESISTING, RESISTING IS A, THE BIG ONE. UM, I'M TRYING TO GET EVERYBODY INVOLVED. UH, SO THOSE ARE ALSO INCREASING. BUT ALSO KEEP THIS IN MIND, A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE GET REFERRALS, IT'S JUST NOT ONE CHARGE. IT'S SEVERAL CHARGES THAT COME IN ON, ON ONE CHILD. SO A CHILD CAN BE ARRESTED FOR A FELONY AND STILL HAVE SEVERAL MISDEMEANORS ATTACHED FOR THAT CHILD ON THE REFERRAL. THIS IS REALLY INTERESTING BECAUSE OUR TOTAL DELINQUENT CONDUCT REFERRALS IS UP 51%. SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO. THIS IS, THIS IS JUST THE REFERRALS PER CHARGE. SO WE'RE GETTING MORE CHARGES REFERRED TO THE COURTS AND TO THE DEPARTMENT, BUT WE'RE ALSO INCREASING ON TOTAL JUVENILES, WHICH WERE UP 42%. SO THAT'S ONE CHILD. THE WAY IT'S COUNTED, IT'S ONE CHILD WHO MAY HAVE MULTIPLE OFFENSES, BUT WE'RE ONLY CALL, WE'RE ONLY COUNTING THAT ONE CHILD COMING IN TO THE, THE, THE SYSTEM. THESE ARE VIOLENT FELONY REFERRAL OFFENSES FROM THE PAST THREE YEARS. AND AS YOU CAN TELL, 2021, NOT SO BAD, BUT NOT SO BAD. BUT YOU CAN SEE HOW WE'RE ESCALATING IN THE PROJECTIONS FOR LATER THIS YEAR. ALSO NOTE IN APRIL, AND IT KIND OF STARTS DIPPING DOWN IN MAY, THAT'S THE SUMMERTIME. SO TYPICALLY OUR REFERRALS DECREASE DURING THE SUMMERTIME WHERE YOU'RE THINKING, WELL, WHY IS THAT? BECAUSE THE KIDS ARE OUT THERE DOING WHATEVER, MANY OF OUR REFERRALS ARE SCHOOL REFERRALS. SO WHEN THEY'RE IN SCHOOL, THEY CAN PICK UP GUN CASES, THEY CAN PICK UP, [00:25:01] UM, ASSAULT CASES, OR EVEN ANY CASE THEY CAN PICK UP AT A SCHOOL. SO WE SLOW, WE START SEEING IT DIP DOWN FOR THE SUMMER, AND THEN IT STARTS INCREASING TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR. PROJECTED. THIS YEAR, WE'RE GOING TO BE AT A HIGHER LEVEL COMPARED TO THE PREVIOUS TWO YEARS IN TERMS OF VIOLENT, UH, FELONY REFERRALS. AND THIS IS OUR TOTAL FELONY REFERRALS, WHICH IT COMPLETELY SPIKES THE AROUND APRIL OR MAY FOR VARIOUS REASONS. AND THEN AGAIN, IT DIPS DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS, AND THEN IT INCREASES AGAIN DURING THE, THE SCHOOL YEAR. I WOULD, UH, ARGUE THAT MAJORITY OF THOSE ARE FROM SCHOOL REFERRALS AS WELL. BUT VAPING, VAPING IS A FELONY. AND SO WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF VAPING REFERRALS TO OUR DEPARTMENT. AND THIS IS OUR MISDEMEANOR REFERRAL. EVEN THOUGH IT STARTS OFF A LITTLE BIT HIGH, IT TYPICALLY IS GOING TO DIE DOWN, UH, DRASTICALLY DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS. A LOT OF THESE, LIKE I SAID, ARE EVADING, TRESPASS, POSSESSION OF MARIJUANA, UH, GONNA BE A BURGLARY. THOSE CAN, THOSE TYPICALLY FALL DOWN DURING SUMMER AND AGAIN, START TO PEAK UP DURING THE, THE SCHOOL MONTHS. NOW, THIS IS THIS LAST SLIDE, BUT IF COMMUNITY, IF COMMUNITY SUPERVISION DOESN'T WORK, IF WE TEND TO PLACE THIS CHILD A CRIER THAT DOESN'T WORK FOR CERTAIN FELONY, ACTUALLY ALL FELONY OFFENSES, WE HAVE AN OPTION OF T J J D. T J J D IS THE TEXAS JUVENILE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT, WHICH HOUSES, UH, KIDS ALL THROUGHOUT TEXAS. THESE ARE FOR OUR MORE SERIOUS VIOLENT OFFENDERS. AS YOU CAN TELL, IN THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS, OUR NUMBERS WERE HIGH SENDING KIDS TO T J J D. AT THAT TIME IT MIGHT'VE BEEN CALLED T Y C. UM, THOSE NUMBERS WERE HIGH AND IT DRASTICALLY DIPS OFF BECAUSE AT THE EARLIER TIMES WE WERE ABLE TO SEND MISDEMEANORS TO T J J D, WE CAN NO LONGER SEND MISDEMEANORS TO T J J D, WE CAN ONLY SEND FELONIES. UM, YOU CAN SEE HOW IT, IT DIPS REALLY LOW AND SLOWLY STARTS TO CREEP BACK UP. UM, I THINK THE PROJECTIONS FOR THIS YEAR AS WE'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT MORE REFERRALS TO T J J D. AND THE REASON, ONE OF THE REASONS IS BECAUSE OF COVID 2022, WE HAD A LOT OF, UH, GUN OFFENSES, A LOT OF VIOLENT OFFENSES, BUT WE COULDN'T SEND THEM TO T J J D BECAUSE NUMBER ONE, UH, THERE WAS A, A TRANSPORT ISSUE. BUT THEN WE WEREN'T TRYING CASES BECAUSE WE WERE ALL IN THE COVID PROTOCOL. SO WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING BY ZOOM. A LOT OF TIMES OUR T J J D CASES ARE GOING TO BE TRIAL CASES, UM, IF THERE'S, UNLESS THERE'S AN AGREEMENT MADE BY BY ALL THE PARTIES. BUT WE TRY TO KEEP THESE KIDS IN THEIR COMMUNITIES, KEEP THEM AT HOME. 'CAUSE WE GOTTA UNDERSTAND THAT IF WE DO SEND KIDS AWAY, THEY'RE REMOVING THEM FROM THEIR FAMILIES, THEIR FRIENDS AND THEIR COMMUNITIES. AND MORE THAN NOT, THEY'RE GONNA COME BACK A LITTLE BIT, UH, HARDER THAN WHEN THEY WENT IN. AND ALSO TO TOUCH ON THIS, I'VE HEARD THIS A COUPLE OF TIMES, TRYING A KID AS AN ADULT, WE DON'T HAVE THAT TECH, UH, THAT TERMINOLOGY IN TEXAS. WE HAVE TWO WAYS TO KEEP KIDS OVER AT THE AGE OF 18. THAT'S A DETERMINANT SENTENCE. AND C N T A DETERMINANT SENTENCE. WE CAN KEEP THEM FROM A SET PERIOD OF YEARS THOUGH, GO TO T J J D, COME BACK TO THE COURT SYSTEM, AND THEN WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PAROLE THEM TO THE COMMUNITY IF THEY'RE DOING WELL IN T J J D. IF THEY'RE NOT DOING WELL, WE CAN SEND THEM TO T D C WITH THE CNTS, WHICH IS A CERTIFYING TRANSFER. IF THE STATE IS ABLE TO PROVE CERTAIN ELEMENTS OF THAT CATEGORY OR THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS AT THAT TIME, WE CAN EITHER KEEP THEM IN JUVENILE OR WE CAN SEND THEM TO THE ADULT SIDE TO BE TRIED AS AN ADULT. THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCES, THE AMOUNT OF PUNISHMENT THAT WE CAN GIVE ON THE JUVENILE SIDE, THE MAX YEARS IS 40 YEARS ON THE ADULT SIDE, THAT OPENS UP TO TO LIFE. SO I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES THAT FACE US RIGHT NOW IN OUR CTS AND DEALING WITH THE, OUR KIDS, OUR VIOLENT KIDS IN OUR COMMUNITIES. ALL RIGHT. AND THAT'S ABOUT IT. SO WE'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND THANK YOU TO, UM, UH, FOR BOTH FOURTH COURTS, UH, FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU DO TO HELP OUR, UM, OUR YOUNG AND, AND REALLY IN A LOT OF WAYS MOST VULNERABLE. I WANNA ESPECIALLY THANK, UH, THE JUVENILE DISTRICT COURT JUDGES AND THEIR STAFF FOR BEING HERE TODAY, COMING ALL THE WAY OUT HERE TO TALKING WITH US, ESPECIALLY IN THE RAIN. I APPRECIATE IT. UM, I REALLY APPRECIATE JUDGE SHAW THE, UM, THAT YOU GUYS HANDLE THESE CASES AND REALLY THESE CHILDREN, RIGHT, OUR CHILDREN WITH, WITH SUCH GREAT CARE, UM, HOW YOU, THERE'S KIND OF ESCALATION, UM, YOU DON'T KIND OF JUST AUTOMATICALLY THROW THE BOOK AT THEM. THE, UM, IT'S TAILORED TO EACH CHILD, THE REHABILITATION FOCUS, AND, UM, EVEN THAT YOU CALL IT A REFERRAL AS OPPOSED TO AN ARREST. I THINK THAT THAT LANGUAGE MATTERS. AND SO I, I DO REALLY APPRECIATE THAT, THAT LEVEL OF, OF CARE, UM, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH VERY VULNERABLE CHILDREN. UM, SO I THANK YOU FOR THAT. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. YOU MENTIONED, UM, JUDGE SHAW, THE EIGHT, THE 18 DAY STAY, UM, IF YOU'RE ANTICIPATING THAT THEY CAN BE REINTEGRATED OR GO BACK, BACK HOME, RIGHT? SO IS THERE AN AVERAGE STAY FOR THE, THE CHILD THAT MAYBE IS NOT GONNA, [00:30:01] THAT GETS PLACED OR HAS TO GO TO? YOU KNOW, I, I THINK IT'S GONNA VARY. I THINK, UM, MS. MATA CAN TOUCH ON THAT. OKAY. THAT THAT NUMBER HAS. YEAH. CAN YOU COME UP TO THE PODIUM? YES. THANK YOU. YEAH, THAT NUMBER HAS REALLY CHANGED OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS BECAUSE OF COVID. SO NORMALLY WHEN A CHILD WAS, UM, GOING TO BE REFERRED OR COMMITTED TO THE TEXAS YOUTH COMMISSIONER, WHAT WE NOW CALL T J J D, THE JUVENILE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT, UM, THEY WOULD GO WITHIN THREE OR FOUR DAYS OF THAT COMMITMENT. AND NOW BECAUSE OF SHUTDOWNS THERE AND STAFFING ISSUES THERE, THOSE CHILDREN WILL STAY WITH US ANYWHERE FROM A HUNDRED DAYS TO A YEAR. SO IT'S A VERY ABNORMAL SITUATION RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'S NOT UNUSUAL FOR US TO HAVE KIDS A HUNDRED TO 150 DAYS WHILE THEY'RE WAITING. WOW. UM, AND SO WE PROGRAM A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY FOR THOSE KIDS. OKAY. PRIOR TO COVID, UM, KIDS THAT WERE GOING TO BE, UH, STAYING FOR TRIAL OR WE'RE DEEMED TO BE A RISK TO THE COMMUNITY, THEY WOULD OFTEN STAY 30 DAYS, UM, 60 DAYS. BUT GENERALLY THE COURTS COULD HEAR THOSE CASES VERY, VERY QUICKLY. THAT SLOWED DOWN DURING COVID. OKAY. AND ARE, DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE AFTER, NOW THAT THE PANDEMIC IS WINDING DOWN, I GUESS YOU'RE, YOU'RE COMING BACK TO THOSE NUMBERS. UM, WE ARE, WE'RE FEELING A, YES. THE COURTS ARE WORKING HARD. YEAH, THEY'RE MOVING FAST. CASES ARE SET AND THEY'RE TRYING CASES ACTIVELY RIGHT NOW. SO, SO WE'RE GONNA SEE THOSE NUMBERS MOVE UP. BUT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THE PROBLEM WITH 15 TO 20 CHILDREN COMMITTED TO THE STATE THAT WE'LL HAVE TO HOLD ONTO FOR MONTHS AT A TIME BECAUSE WE DON'T SEE AN ANSWER ON THAT SIDE YET. THE STATE HAS NOT SOLVED THAT PROBLEM YET, AND I DON'T SEE A SOLUTION IN THE NEAR FUTURE. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, JUST ONE OTHER QUESTION FOR YOU, JUDGE SHAW, UH, AT THE CRYER CENTER, HOW DO THEY FOLLOW UP WITH THE, UM, WITH THE KIDS AND THEIR FAMILIES? MAYBE SOMEBODY ELSE CAN HELP WITH, BUT ARE THEY, ARE THEY LICENSED SOCIAL WORKERS? ARE THEY REFERRED TO NON-PROFITS? WHAT'S THE LONG-TERM CARE AFTER THE CRYER CENTER? SO THESE, THESE YOUNG FOLKS ARE ACTUALLY ON PROBATION. OH, OKAY. SO THEIR PROBATION OFFICERS ARE, OH, OKAY. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THIS TOO, AND NOT 'CAUSE PROBATION'S HERE, WHEN WE HEAR THE TERM PROBATION OFFICER, WE THINK HAVE A NEGATIVE CONNOTATION. I DON'T SEE OUR JUVENILE PROBATION DEPARTMENT SUCH AS THAT. THEY'RE MORE LIKE CASE MANAGERS, SOCIAL WORKERS, LIFE COACHES. THEY'RE TRYING TO, AND THEY CARE ABOUT EACH INDIVIDUAL, INDIVIDUAL. ONE OF THESE KIDS, THEIR, THEIR, THEIR CASELOADS ARE VERY SMALL SO THEY CAN HAVE MORE, UM, MORE FACE TIME AND MORE TOUCHES WITH EACH INDIVIDUAL. SO I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH ON THAT. OKAY. THAT, UM, THEY, THEY, THEY HAVE, WE HAVE COUNSELORS, SOCIAL WORKERS, ALL TYPE OF INDIVIDUALS WORKING WITH THESE KIDS AND FAMILIES. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, I, I'M, I AM CURIOUS, SO AT ANY TIME ARE THERE ANY REFERRALS TO NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS FOR MORE LONG-TERM CARE? YES, A ABSOLUTELY. WE MAKE REFERRALS TO MULTIPLE, UH, COUNTY AND STATE AND CITY AGENCIES ALL THE TIME. AND, UM, WE ALSO RUN THE JUVENILE JUSTICE ACADEMY, WHICH IS FOR CHILDREN WHO ARE EXPELLED. OKAY. AND THERE, WE WORK WITH COMMUNITIES AND SCHOOLS AND DO A LOT OF REFERRALS TO COMMUNITY AGENCIES THERE. SO WE'RE ALL ABOUT THE BUSINESS OF REFERRING KIDS BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT WHEN WE STEP AWAY, IT'S THE COMMUNITY THAT WILL HELP THOSE CHILDREN DO WELL. AND SO WE ARE VERY, VERY FOCUSED ON THAT, MAKING CONNECTIONS IN THE COMMUNITY WHERE JUSTICE CAN STEP OUT OF THE PICTURE AND KIDS CAN DO BETTER. WONDERFUL. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR JUDGE ODO. UM, ACTUALLY, MAYBE JUST ONE, NO, THERE'S TWO. UM, IN THE PEER COURT, HOW ARE THE PEERS CHOSEN? ARE THEY, YOU, YOU MENTIONED STUDENT VOLUNTEERS, UM, BUT WHERE DO THEY, WHERE DO THEY COME FROM? THERE'S, THERE'S STUDENT VOLUNTEERS AS WELL AS SOME OF THE, THE KIDS THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH PEER COURT. AS YOU KNOW, A DEFENDANT ALSO ARE INVITED TO RETURN TO PARTICIPATE IN PEER COURT. SO IT'S JUST KIND OF LIKE A, YOU KNOW, FULL CIRCLE WHERE THEY'RE OKAY. YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY GO BACK AND, AND THEY'RE THE PEER. IS IT LIMITED TO, UM, YOUNG PEOPLE WHO HAVE GONE THROUGH PEER COURT OR? NO, THE REASON I ASK IS BECAUSE WE COME ACROSS, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL COME ACROSS YOUNG PEOPLE THAT WANNA GET INVOLVED IN, UM, LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO, TO, TO GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY. IS THIS SOMETHING WE CAN REFER THEM TO TO GO TO THE PEER COURT? YES. OKAY. ABSOLUTELY. WHAT ARE THE QUALIFICATIONS? I'M JUST CURIOUS. UH, DO YOU WANNA GOOD MORNING. HI, GOOD MORNING. SO IT'S 15 TO 17, AND, UM, USUALLY THE JUVENILE CASE MANAGER, IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, THEY'LL GO TO THE SCHOOLS, ESPECIALLY THE, UM, THE, WHERE THEY HAVE THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE, UH, DEPARTMENT. AND THEN, UM, THEY'LL TRY TO RECRUIT FOR THAT, UH, PEER COURT. SO THE, THE ONLY QUALIFICATION IS THAT YOU'RE, UM, WITHIN THAT AGE RANGE, OR? YES. OH, OKAY. YES, IT'S PRETTY OPEN. OKAY, THANK YOU. AND THE, THE SECOND ONE WAS, UM, DO WE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN THE, UM, THAT, THAT PARTNER WITH THE PROGRAM THAT YOU, THAT YOU WORK WITH THEM? UM, IN 2018, WE HAD APPROXIMATELY, WHAT IS IT, 36, 38 [00:35:02] JUVENILE, 32 JUVENILE CASE MANAGERS. TODAY WE HAVE 13. UM, AND THAT'S JUST DUE TO FUNDING A GRANT THAT THE COURT APPLIES FOR EVERY YEAR HAS DECREASED EVERY YEAR. UM, RIGHT NOW WE CURRENTLY HAVE FIVE GRANT FUNDED, J JUVENILE CASE MANAGERS, AND EIGHT NON-GRANT FUNDED JUVENILE CASE MANAGERS. SO WE ARE LOOKING AT WAYS TO DO MORE WITH LESS. UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT WAYS TO STREAMLINE THE SERVICES THAT WE OFFER, UM, AND PROVIDE SUPPORT TO EMPOWER PARENTS, GUARDIANS, AND STUDENTS. UM, BUT MAYBE JUST NOT WITH SO MUCH OF A HANDS-ON APPROACH, EVEN THOUGH THEY REALLY DO REQUIRE THAT JUST BECAUSE OF THE PERSONNEL, THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE FACING. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, JUST ONE LAST POINT, UM, WITH THE STRIVE COURT AND THEN WITH, OF COURSE, THE MUNICIPAL, UM, TRUANCY SERVICES, MANY CHILDREN, UM, AFTER THE PANDEMIC JUST DIDN'T COME BACK TO SCHOOL. SO I THINK JUDGE SHAW MENTIONED, UH, YOU KNOW, CRAWLING BEFORE YOU CAN WALK AND HOW IT'S SO, SO IMPORTANT. THOSE PROGRAMS ARE SO IMPORTANT JUST TO GET THE CHILD BACK IN SCHOOL, BACK IN CLASS. UM, THERE ARE A LOT OF MISSING CHILDREN, AS IT WERE, THAT, THAT I KNOW A LOT OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS JUST, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT ON THEIR BOOKS ANYMORE, THEY JUST NEVER CAME BACK. SO I, I REALLY DO RECOMMEND THAT WORK THAT YOU DO. UM, AND THANK YOU FOR FOCUSING SPECIFICALLY ON, ON TRUANCY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CAPTAIN. SO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS, YOU EACH HAVE, UM, 10 MINUTES FOR QUESTIONS. UM, WHO WANTS TO GO FIRST? OKAY, I'LL GO FIRST. OKAY. COUNCILMAN MAY BACK ON. THANK YOU. SO, UM, JUDGE O BLATO ON SLIDE SIX, YOU TALK ABOUT THE TWO, UM, THE DIFFERENT FORMS, COUNSELING AND COMMUNITY SERVICE. DO WE HAVE, UH, KIND OF AN IDEA OF WHAT WORKS MORE EFFECTIVELY OR IS IT JUST, UM, DEPENDING ON THE STUDENT IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT? IT, IT DEPENDS ON, ON THE, THE, THE CHILD ACTUALLY. UM, IF THE CHILD IS REFERRED TO COURT, THEY GO BEFORE THE JUDGE AND THEN AFTER THAT THEY TALK TO A JUVENILE CASE MANAGER. AND OUR JUVENILE CASE MANAGERS ARE, ARE, ARE ALL PRETTY EXPERIENCED. SO THEY, UH, THE JUVENILE CASE MANAGERS WILL MAKE A DETERMINATION ON WHAT THEY FEEL THAT THAT CHILD NEEDS. UM, SO, AND I, AND THERE USUALLY IS SOME SORT OF COMMUNITY SERVICE ASPECT TO EVERY ORDER. UM, BUT IF THEY'RE REQUIRING MORE COUNSELING, THEN THEY'LL, THEY'LL REFER THEM TO MORE COUNSELING THAN COMMUNITY SERVICE HOURS. OH, OKAY. THANK YOU. AND I THINK, UM, THE THING IS, 'CAUSE AS WE, AS WE LOOK AT OUR, WE, YOU KNOW, WE JUST PASSED OUT THE ARPA DOLLARS, UH, AND AS WE LOOK AT BUDGET AND MAKING PRIORITIES, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT, WHAT WOULD, WHAT, WHAT NON-PROFITS WOULD HELP BEST TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE THAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE, IN, UH, AMONG OUR JUVENILES. UM, SO, AND I WANNA THANK YOU. 'CAUSE ON SLIDE SEVEN, I SEE ALL OF MY, ALL THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT SIT IN DISTRICT THREE, SOUTH SIDE, HARLANDALE, SAN ANTONIO, UM, I S D AND EAST CENTRAL. AND I ALSO SEE THE CHARTER SCHOOLS, ROYAL ACADEMY JUBILEE AN IDEA. SO I'M, I'M PLEASED TO SEE THAT THAT IS THERE. I THINK WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS A BIGGER COORDINATION WITH POSSIBLY, UM, READY TO WORK. AND AS WE GET PARENTS INTO THAT PROGRAM, UH, MAYBE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY. AND MARIA, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN TALK WITH MIKE ABOUT ASKING THE QUESTION, HEY, IS YOUR KID HAVING TROUBLE MAKING IT TO SCHOOL? OR ARE YOU HAVING TROUBLE GETTING YOUR CHILDREN TO SCHOOL? JUST SO WE CAN BE PREVENTATIVE THERE. OR IF THEY'RE, IF THEY'RE ALREADY TALKING TO, UM, YOU ALL, UH, THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THAT WITH THE READY TO WORK. ALSO, I ACTUALLY HAVE A MEETING WITH MIKE AND HIS STAFF LATER THIS AFTERNOON, SO GREAT. I'LL MAKE SURE , I'LL MAKE SURE TO MENTION THAT. I KNOW COUNCILMAN UNMENTIONED IT TOO. I WILL. UM, AND THE OTHER IS, IS THE GRANDPARENTS RAISING GRANDKIDS. UM, IF WE COULD IDENTIFY THOSE TO, TO MAKE SURE, 'CAUSE I KNOW THAT, THAT THAT BECOMES A STRUGGLE. UM, UH, I'VE GOT GRANDPARENTS RAISING, UH, GRANDKIDS IN MY DISTRICT AND THERE'S A LOT OF, THERE'S A LOT OF GUILT THAT THE GRANDPARENT HAS BECAUSE THEY THINK IF THEY HAD DONE A BETTER JOB WITH THEIR CHILD, THAT IT WOULD BE BETTER. AND, AND SO I THINK WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT ALSO. UM, I THINK, UM, THOSE ARE ALL MY, MY QUESTIONS TO, FOR YOU, UM, JUDGE SHAW, I THINK THE ONE QUESTION I HAVE THAT I THINK WE CAN HELP, UM, OR MAYBE WE COULD LOOK AT TRYING TO HELP IS THE DEMOGRAPHICS, UH, WITH THE FEMALES ON THAT SLIDE WHERE YOU HAD THE MALES, AND I KNOW THE DEMOGRAPHIC WAS WITH THE FEMALES WAS LOWER, BUT DO Y'ALL KEEP THE INFORMATION IF THEY'RE SINGLE MOTHERS OR IF THEY HAVE CHILDREN? DO Y'ALL COLLECT THAT INFORMATION? I, I, I DON'T BELIEVE SO. [00:40:02] UM, WE PROVIDE RESOURCES, BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S DATA. OH, THEY, THEY HAVE A DATA COUNT. WE HAVE. OKAY. SO IT'LL BE A HAND COUNT. IT'S POSSIBLE, BUT JUST GO AHEAD. JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF PROGRAMS FOR, FOR WOMEN, FOR WOMEN HEAD OF HOUSEHOLDS, AND, YOU KNOW, SINGLE MOTHERS WITHIN DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS WITH THE CITY. SO I THINK IF WE KNEW WHAT SORT OF WHAT YOU ALL WERE, WERE FACING, WE COULD MAYBE FIND A WAY TO HELP WITH RESOURCES. OKAY. ALSO THERE, UM, AND I WANNA THANK YOU FOR THE, THE SPECIALTY COURTS. I WAS PART OF A VIRTUAL CALL WITH, UM, JUDGE YOLANDA HUFF, AND SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE SPECIALTY COURTS BECAUSE I THINK WHAT PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND IS IF YOU DO GET A REFERRAL, IF YOU DO GET IN TROUBLE, THIS ISN'T THE END. RIGHT? YOUR LIFE ISN'T OVER. THERE'S OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE. AND SOMETIMES, UH, THEY NEED THAT ACCOUNTABILITY TO BE MOTIVATED TO CHANGE. SO I, I APPRECIATE ALL THE, UM, THE INFORMATION YOU HAD ABOUT SPECIALTY COURTS, AND IF YOU COULD, UM, IF YOU COULD LET US KNOW HOW WE CAN HELP GET THAT INFORMATION OUT THERE TO OUR, OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR DISTRICTS, UH, AND HELP WITH IT, THAT COMMUNICATION, YOU KNOW, WE COULD, NOT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS WANNA HEAR ABOUT IT , YOU KNOW, BUT IN, IN THE, IN, IN THE OFF CHANCE THAT THEY DO OR THEY HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE JUVENILE THAT'S, THAT'S STRUGGLING, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE DO. UM, THE VIOLENT CRIME STATS THAT YOU PRESENTED, UM, AND I, I THANK YOU. I THINK THIS IS A, A QUESTION FOR MARIA. SO ARE WE DOING ANYTHING TO CORRELATE THE VIOLENT CRIME STATS AMONG, AMONG THE, THE JUVENILES THAT PRESENTED HERE WITH THE TRENDS THAT WE'RE SEEING WITH SS A P D? WE HAVE NOT COUNCILWOMAN, BUT WE WILL, NOW THAT WE HAVE THIS DATA AND WE'LL WORK WITH, UH, JUDGE, UM, HAW TO, TO SEE WHAT RELATIONSHIP, AND TO YOUR POINT, IF THERE'S ANY, UM, SERVICES THAT WE CAN CONNECT THOSE INDIVIDUALS, UH, SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED BY THE CITY. JUST 'CAUSE AS WE LOOK AT THE U T S A, UM, STUDY AND WE LOOK AT THOSE HOTSPOTS, MAYBE WE LOOK AT THE AREAS WHERE OUR JUVENILES ARE KIND OF INVOLVED IN THAT. BECAUSE IF YOU, IF YOU WATCH THE NEWS, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THE AGE GETS YOUNGER AND YOUNGER, UM, OF THE, THE VICTIMS AND THOSE, THOSE, UH, YOU KNOW, COMMITTING THE, THE CRIMES. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT DONE BECAUSE I THINK THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT DATA, ESPECIALLY AMONG THE, UM, THE VIOLENT CRIMES AND THE FELONIES. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. NO PROBLEM. NO PROBLEM. SO IT'S A GREEN BUTTON SHOWS YOU, I'VE NEVER BEEN A COUNCIL MEMBER BEFORE . UM, SO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER GRO, COINCIDENTALLY, YOU ASKED THAT QUESTION AND WHEN, WHEN THE JUDGE HAD TAKEN A SEAT, I TEXTED HIM AND ASKED HIM THE EXACT SAME THING. YEAH. I NOTICED FROM YOUR PRESENTATION THE INCREASED NUMBER OF REFERRALS SEEMS TO MIRROR THE INCREASE IN CRIME. WOULD YOU MIND SHARING THOUGHTS ON THAT? IF YOU HAVE ANY? SIGNED YOUR FAVORITE CHIEF THE OWN CHIEF. I KNOW. WELL, WELL THANK YOU. AND I THINK, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD THING ABOUT THE COUNTY AND THE CITY COMING TOGETHER TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE. AND, UH, THEN USING THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO TAKE YOU INTO THE COMMUNITY AND HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND THE CHIEFS IN, IN DISTRICT THREE ALL THE TIME. SO HE'LL TELL YOU EXACTLY WHERE TO GO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN BIRAN, COUNCILMAN BRAVO. THANK YOU CHAIR. AND I KNOW YOU SAID WE ONLY HAVE 10 MINUTES, BUT I'M WONDERING IF MARIA HAS THE CHIEF LOCK THE DOOR SO THE JUDGES CAN'T LEAVE. IF I MIGHT HAVE MORE TIME. 'CAUSE I'M SO EXCITED AND I HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS, SO MANY QUESTIONS HERE. UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN I THINK ABOUT MY CONSTITUENTS AND THE RESIDENTS OF, OF SAN ANTONIO, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE, UM, EXTREME VIEWS MAYBE ON OR, OR THEY HAVE VIEWS ON, ON HOW WE NEED TO HANDLE, UM, HOW, HOW WE CAN INCREASE PUBLIC SAFETY. WE'VE GOT PEOPLE WHO THINK WE NEED MORE HANDCUFFS AND MORE JAILS. AND THEN WE'VE GOT PEOPLE WHO THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT SYSTEM ISN'T WORKING AND WE NEED TO BE, UH, MORE COMPASSIONATE IN, IN OUR APPROACH AND, UH, BE, BE THAT WE NEED ALTERNATIVES TO PUTTING PEOPLE IN JAIL, UM, OR ARRESTS. RIGHT? AND I FEEL LIKE RESTORATIVE JUSTICE IS PART OF WHAT FITS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE THERE, RIGHT? BECAUSE ESPECIALLY WITH YOUNGER PEOPLE, WHEN YOU FIND SOMEBODY WHO'S COMMITTED A CRIME, INSTEAD OF FOCUSING ON HOW DO WE PUNISH THIS INDIVIDUAL? IT'S HOW DO WE HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE, BUT YET ALSO GET THEM BACK [00:45:01] ON THE RIGHT PATH? HOW DO WE GUIDE THEM BACK ONTO THE RIGHT PATH SO THAT THEY'RE A PRODUCTIVE MEMBER OF SOCIETY AND SO THAT THEY DON'T END UP, UH, BEING, UH, SOMEBODY WHO SPENDS THEIR LIFE IN PRISON? RIGHT? AND, AND I'M, ONE OF THE THINGS I LIKE ABOUT RESTORATIVE JUSTICE IS IF WE CAN, IF WE CAN HOLD SOMEBO A YOUNG PERSON ACCOUNTABLE WITHOUT SENDING THEM TO JAIL, THEN WE CAN AVOID THAT TIME IN JAIL WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE, YOU ALL SAID THAT, UH, THERE ARE TRUANCY ISSUES, RIGHT? UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT INTERESTED IN REGULAR SCHOOL, BUT WHEN YOU PUT 'EM IN JAIL, THAT'S LIKE HIGHER EDUCATION FOR A CRIMINAL BECAUSE WHEN THEY'RE IN JAIL, THEY'RE, THEY'RE BEING TAUGHT HOW TO HOTWIRE A CAR OR THEY'RE BEING CONNECTED TO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE BEING RECRUITED FOR A TO A GANG AND THEY'RE BEING TAUGHT HOW TO MAKE METH OR WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY CAN BE, THEY CAN BE MENTORED INTO A LIFE OF CRIME AND TAUGHT ABOUT HOW TO, HOW TO, UM, BE BETTER AT, UM, COMMITTING CRIMES. AND SO THAT'S WHERE I SEE THAT I'M REALLY EXCITED TO HEAR ABOUT, UH, RESTORATIVE JUSTICE AND, AND THE WORK THERE. AND I WANT TO KNOW AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, HOW CAN I HELP SUPPORT THAT WORK MORE? UH, WE AGREE AND WE'RE VERY INVOLVED IN RESTORATIVE JUSTICE AT THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT. UM, WE HAVE COLLABORATION. WE, WE HAVE RESTORATIVE JUSTICE PRACTICES AND TRAINING BOTH AT OUR DETENTION CENTER AND AT OUR CRIER CENTER AND, UH, STARTING THAT AT THE JUVENILE JUSTICE ACADEMY. AND WE'RE IN COLLABORATION WITH A PARTNERSHIP, MY BROTHER'S KEEPER ON SEVERAL CAMPUSES HERE. SO AGREE THAT THE MORE RESTORATIVE JUSTICE THAT WE CAN DO AT THE CAMPUS LEVEL WILL, UH, REALLY SLOW DOWN THAT SCHOOL TO PRISON PIPELINE AND KEEP KIDS OUT OF OUR SYSTEM. SO, UH, WE ARE EXPANDING ON THOSE EFFORTS NOW, AND I THINK WE ARE, UM, INTERESTED IN, IN ANY COLLABORATIONS, ANY FUNDING THAT, THAT WE CAN GET TO CONTINUE AND TO EXPAND THOSE. GREAT. THANK YOU COUNCILMAN. UH, JUST TO ADDRESS WHAT, WHAT YOU ASKED, UM, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT SEEM JUST VERY BASIC, BUT I JUST THINK EDUCATION AND AWARENESS. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETINGS, TOWN HALLS, UM, THE COURT WOULD BE VERY HAPPY TO PARTICIPATE IN, IN ANY TYPE OF FORUM THAT YOU HAVE. UM, REGARDING, YOU KNOW, JUVE, JUVENILE JUSTICE, UH, TRUANCY, UM, IT, A LOT OF THE CHILDREN THAT COME THROUGH COURT THAT HAVE ISSUES WITH TRUANCY ARE THE MOST UNDERSERVED, DISENFRANCHISED, DISENGAGED MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY. SO WE'RE, WE NEED TO REACH THEM SOMEHOW. AND SO IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT THROUGH ONE OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETINGS, TOWN HALLS, WE'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO THAT. THANK YOU. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY NEED GUIDANCE AND MENTORSHIP ABSOLUTELY. IN A BIG WAY FROM THE COMMUNITY. ABSOLUTELY. YES. GREAT. OKAY. AND SO I HEARD A LOT ABOUT TRUANCY BEING A BIG PART OF THIS PROGRAM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT THAT'S ON THE, THE, THE, THE COUNTY SIDE JUDGE SHAW, BUT I'M, I'M WONDERING TO WHAT EXTENT ARE YOU ALL ADDRESSING OTHER ISSUES, YOU KNOW, LIKE, UM, GRAFFITI, YOU KNOW, UM, MINOR THEFT, THAT KIND OF STUFF. SO THE MINOR THEFTS ARE, WILL BE MORE OF PROBABLY THE CLASS CS, UM, GRAFFITI. SO ARE THE CLASS CS GOING THROUGH THE MUNICIPAL COURT SYSTEM? YES. SO WE ALL GET CLASS BEING HIGHER. OKAY. I HAVEN'T SEEN A GRAFFITI CASE IN A WHILE. MAYBE AT SCHOOL. WELL, THEY DROPPED SPECIFICALLY WHEN THE LEGISLATURE GET MOUNT. THIS IS JUDGE SOSA, COME ON UP. SO SHE'S OUR LEGISLATIVE GURU. APPARENTLY. I'M REALLY NOT, BUT I WOULD YOU COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE FOR PEOPLE WATCHING THE THE MEETING? YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE ON TV. YEAH. WE'RE ON TV AND LOVELY. YEAH, GRAFFITI'S USED TO BE A HUGE PROBLEM FOR THE CITY. UH, THE DA'S OFFICE WHEN I WORKED THERE WOULD GO TO MONTHLY MEETINGS WITH SS A P D FOR THE GRAFFITI ABATEMENT PROGRAM. BUT, UM, ABOUT SIX YEARS AGO, I THINK THE LEGISLATURE CHANGED THE AMOUNTS FOR GRAFFITI. SO YEARS AGO, GRAFFITI, IF A CHILD GRAFFITI AT SCHOOL, WHETHER IT BE WITH A SHARPIE MARKER OR A SCI PAIR OF SCISSORS OR WHATEVER, THAT WAS A FELONY OFFENSE. AND THEN THERE WAS ALSO THE STEPLADDER OF AMOUNTS. SO IT WAS GRAFFITI UNDER 500, GRAFFITI 500 TO 1500. THOSE HAVE ALL CHANGED. THE AMOUNTS HAVE CHANGED AND THEY'VE RAISED THOSE LEVELS OVER TIME. SO IT'S ACTUALLY VERY DIFFICULT NOW TO GET A GRAFFITI CASE TO REACH THE TYPES OF LEVELS YOU WOULD NEED IN ORDER TO FILE IT. SO I HAVEN'T SEEN VERY MANY GRAFFITI CASES. JUDGE VALDEZ HAS AN EITHER. UM, AND THE GRAFFITI AT SCHOOL HAS BEEN WIPED OUT WITH THE LEGISLATURE A FEW YEARS AGO. SO THAT HAS DROPPED, THOSE NUMBERS HAVE DROPPED QUITE A BIT. AND I THINK PROBATION WOULD AGREE WITH ME ON THAT. SO THE CASES IN YOUR COURT HAVE DROPPED, BUT THE CASES, THE GRAFFITI CASES FILED, YES. THE CASES FILED IN YOUR COURT HAVE DROPPED THE CASES OF GRAFFITI IN MY DISTRICT, I DON'T THINK HAVE, WELL I, [00:50:01] THE ISSUE IS THEY HAVE TO REACH THAT MONETARY LEVEL IN ORDER FOR SS A P D TO FILE IT WITH THE BEAR COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE RIGHT NOW, WHAT THE NUMBER OF REFERRALS THE DA'S OFFICE GETS FROM S A P D OR B C S O, THAT NUMBER I DON'T HAVE BECAUSE I DON'T WORK THERE ANYMORE. UM, SO I DON'T KNOW, BUT I KNOW THAT THAT'S REALLY WHAT CHANGED THE GRAFFITI SITUATION. GREAT, THANK YOU. SO, I MEAN, MY UNDERSTANDING IS ALSO THAT, UM, WE, SO I SAW ALL KINDS OF SPECIALTY COURTS AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY HOW, WHAT, SO IT'S GREAT YOU HAVE A GANG COURT, YOU HAVE A MENTAL HEALTH COURT, YOU HAVE A DRUG COURT, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT DO YOU DO DIFFERENTLY WHEN YOU HAVE, WHEN SOMEBODY GOES TO THAT COURT? SO THE DIFFERENCES ARE THE WRAPAROUND SERVICES THAT EVERYBODY'S TALKING ABOUT. EACH COURT SPECIALIZES IN CERTAIN THINGS. SO EACH JUDGE HAS THEIR OWN SPECIALTY COURT AND THERE ARE PROGRAMS. AND HERE'S THE THING. JUDGE VALDEZ AND I WERE BOTH PROSECUTORS. CHIEF MATA WAS OUR CHIEF YEARS AGO. AND SO WE'VE ACTUALLY WORKED IN THE SYSTEM FOR QUITE A WHILE. AND CHIEF MATA'S ACTUALLY THE ONE THAT STARTED A NUMBER OF THESE SPECIALTY COURTS WITH JUDGE PARKER AT THE TIME. THE PURPOSE OF THESE SPECIALTY COURTS IS THE KIDS ARE ON PROBATION, SO THEY'RE GIVEN A CERTAIN LENGTH OF TIME, EITHER THEY'RE ON ADJUDICATED PROBATION OR THEY'RE ON WHAT'S CALLED DEFERRED ADJUDICATE INFORMAL PROBATION. SO THEY'RE GIVEN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME. SO FOR INSTANCE, IN MINE COURT AND CROSSROADS COURTS, THE TWO MENTAL HEALTH COURTS THAT ARE RUN BY THESE TWO JUDGES, THE KIDS ARE ON A 12 MONTH TIME PERIOD IN ORDER TO COMPLETE THE PROGRAM. WHEN THEY'RE IN THAT PROGRAM, THEY GET SPECIAL SERVICES FROM C H C S, SOMETIMES CHILD SAFE. WHAT'S THE OTHER ONE THAT YOU ALL USE? COMMUNITY? NO, I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE COUNSELING PROGRAMS. SO THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE COUNSELING PROGRAMS WHICH GO IN HOME. THEY HAVE CASE MANAGERS IN ADDITION TO THOSE COUNSELING PROGRAMS, THEY HAVE COMMUNITIES IN SCHOOLS. IF THE KIDS GO TO SCHOOLS WHERE C I S ACTUALLY WORKS, THEY HAVE A PROBATION OFFICER THAT'S ASSIGNED TO THEM. THEY ALSO HAVE ACCESS TO BOTH OF THESE JUDGES, UH, ONCE OR TWICE A MONTH. AND WHEN THEY COME IN, THE CHILD COMES IN WITH THEIR FAMILY. AND SO THE JUDGE GETS THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO THEM AND THEIR FAMILY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT ADDITIONAL SERVICES THEY MAY NEED. SOMETIMES IT'S SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS THEY NEED HELP WITH GETTING A LICENSE OR MAYBE THE FAMILY NEEDS HELP WITH HOUSING, SO THEY REFER THEM TO CITY PROGRAMS OR ANY COUNTY PROGRAMS THAT MAY BE APPROPRIATE. SO THESE ARE MORE COMPREHENSIVE SERVICES. SO THESE SPECIALTY COURTS ARE MORE INTENSIVE. THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT AND REGULAR PROBATION. GOT IT. AND IT JUST VARIES DEPENDING UPON WHAT SPECIALTY COURT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. . SO, UH, I'M GLAD YOU ALL ARE DOING ALL THAT. UM, I'M CURIOUS. UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN WE STILL HAVE HUGE PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES MM-HMM. , I'M CONCERNS BROUGHT TO BE MY, BY MY CONSTITUENTS, I'M SURE MY, WITH MY COLLEAGUES AS WELL. SO WHERE ARE YOU NOT HAVING SUCCESS AND, AND WHY NOT? AND IS THERE SOMETHING WE CAN DO TO HELP? SUCCESS IS A VERY OPERATIVE WORD, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH CRIME. I'LL LET YOU DEAL WITH THAT. UM, I THINK OVERALL WE'RE SEEING A SUCCESS BECAUSE OUR REFERRAL NUMBERS ARE DOWN, BUT ON THE DOWNSIDE, WE'RE SEEING MORE VIOLENT OFFENSES. UM, I THINK OUR MURDERS ARE UP PRETTY DRASTICALLY, UM, THE LAST THREE YEARS. BUT OVERALL, AND I, I BELIEVE THAT ONCE WE DON'T, WE SEE A KID AND WE DON'T KNOW THAT KID'S NAME ANYMORE. THAT'S HAPPENING MORE OFTEN THAN NOT. THAT'S A GOOD THING. BUT WE'RE HAVING A HANDFUL OF KIDS THAT WE KNOW THEIR NAMES, WE KNOW THEIR PARENTS' NAMES 'CAUSE WE SEE THEM OVER AND OVER AGAIN. AND I THINK THOSE NUMBERS ARE SLOWLY STARTING TO, TO DECREASE. GREAT. GREAT. OKAY. CAN I ADD ONE? YEAH, PLEASE. I THINK WHERE WE'RE NOT SUCCEEDING IS THAT SO MANY KIDS HAVE, CAN YOU GET TO THE MIC FIRST? ACCESS TO WEAPONS. OKAY. ALL THE TIME. EVERY DAY. CAN YOU, CAN YOU REPEAT THE FIRST PART? ACCESS TO WEAPONS BY JUVENILES IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO IF WE CAN GET PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY TO AGREE NOT TO LEAVE GUNS IN THEIR VEHICLES, IF WE CAN GET PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY TO AGREE THAT IT IS UNACCEPTABLE FOR CHILDREN TO HAVE ACCESS TO WEAPONS AND RESPOND ACCORDINGLY, THEN WE CAN ALL WORK REALLY HARD AT TRYING TO GET THE GUNS OUT OF THE HANDS OF CHILDREN. AND SO IF THERE'S A HOUSE PARTY WHERE CHILDREN ARE PLAYING WITH GUNS AND THERE'S GROWNUPS THERE AND THEY KNOW THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE, THEY NEED TO CALL FOR HELP. THEY NEED TO CALL POLICE. WE ALL NEED TO HAVE A COMMUNITY EFFORT WHERE WE MAKE IT A REALLY BIG DEAL THAT CHILDREN SHOULD NOT HAVE GUNS. AND THAT SEEMS TO BE THE PROBLEM. WE HAVE KIDS GETTING DETAINED WITH WEAPONS, THEY GET RELEASED ULTIMATELY, AND THEY COME BACK IN WITH ANOTHER WEAPON. AND YOU JUST, IT SEEMS SO HARD TO GET THE MESSAGE ACROSS THAT IT'S UNACCEPTABLE FOR CHILDREN TO HAVE GUNS. AND SO I THINK IT'S GONNA TAKE A REALLY BIG PUSH FROM EVERYBODY THAT YOU TALK TO, YOUR CONSTITUENTS, ASK THEM, PLEASE DON'T LEAVE GUNS IN YOUR GLOVE BOX. DON'T LEAVE THEM IN YOUR CENTER CONSOLE. I FELT LIKE WHEN THEY WEREN'T, WHEN PEOPLE WERE NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE A LICENSE TO CARRY A HANDGUN AND MORE PEOPLE WERE GETTING ACCESS, THEY WEREN'T APPRECIATING HOW DANGEROUS IT IS. AND SO THE KIDS ARE GOING AROUND CHECKING FOR VEHICLES THAT AREN'T LOCKED RIFLING THROUGH GLOVE BOXES AND CONSOLES, LOOKING FOR GUNS AND THEN LEAVING. AND IT'S HAPPENING IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND EVERYBODY ELSE'S NEIGHBORHOOD [00:55:01] IN THE COMMUNITY. SO I THINK THAT THAT'S ONE THING THAT WE ARE NOT SUCCEEDING AT RIGHT NOW. IT SEEMS TO BE GETTING WORSE. AND ONE THING I ALSO, TO PIGGYBACK ON THAT IS THAT THIS KID ARE BECOMING MORE SOPHISTICATED. SO THEY'RE TURNING JUST HANDGUNS INTO SEMI OR AUTOMATIC HANDGUNS BY A THING CALLED A SWITCH ON GLOCKS. AND SO WE WE'RE STARTING TO SEE MORE KIDS COME IN, MORE SOPHISTICATED ON HOW TO USE A GUN. SO IT'S MORE THAN JUST STEALING A GUN. THEY'RE YOUTUBING, THEY'RE FINDING, THEY'RE TALKING TO THEIR FRIENDS AND THEY'RE FIGURING OUT HOW TO MAKE THESE GUNS MORE POWERFUL. AND I WILL SAY THAT, UM, THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES ARE LOOKING AT SOCIAL MEDIA 'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENING AND IT'S BEEN REALLY BENEFICIAL. AND I TELL MOST OF THE KIDS THAT COME IN FRONT OF ME, S A P D IS WATCHING, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS WATCHING, THE DA'S OFFICE IS WATCHING THE PROBATION DEPARTMENTS WATCHING, AND WE'RE CATCHING KIDS COMMITTING CRIME ON SOCIAL MEDIA. AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO DO MORE OF THAT. AND IF YOU SEE SOMETHING, YOU NEED TO SAY SOMETHING AND LET, IF YOU SEE A JUVENILE WITH A WEAPON ON SOCIAL MEDIA OR SOMEBODY DOES, CALL THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT, LET 'EM KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND SEE IF WE CAN ALL ACT ACCORDINGLY. JUDGE, TO YOUR POINT, THERE WAS A, A PARTY, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, HOWEVER HAD MENTIONED IT EARLIER. THERE WAS A PARTY WHERE, UH, TWO YOUNG WOMEN, 13 AND 15, ONE WAS KILLED. A 15 YEAR OLD, A 13 YEAR OLD WAS WOUNDED OR AT A PARTY. THE MOTHER WAS PROVIDING DRUGS, UH, AND ALCOHOL. AND THERE WERE REPORTS AND THEY, THEY WERE PLAYING WITH A GUN. IT WAS AN ACCIDENTAL SHOOTING, BUT HALF THE KIDS AT THAT PARTY WERE ARMED. 13, 12, 14, 15 YEARS OLD, CAME TO A PARTY ARMED, THIS IS GOING ON ALL OVER THE PLACE AND NOT JUST THIS CITY. THIS IS GOING ALL OVER, ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. AND, YOU KNOW, I WAS CURIOUS, JUDGE, AS TO WHAT YOUR OPINION WAS, JUDGE CRUZ, UH, ABOUT THE INCREASE IN CRIME AND THE INCREASE IN REFERRALS THAT, THAT YOU ARE SEEING, UH, OR HAVE SEEN IN YOUR COURT. I THINK FROM, THIS IS JUST ME, ME SPEAKING ON THIS, NOTHING, NO SCIENTIFIC FORMULA BEHIND IT. BUT I THINK THE CHANGE OF SOCIAL MEDIA, UM, EVERYTHING BEING RECORDED. SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WERE YOUNGER, WE FOUGHT, THERE WAS NO SOCIAL MEDIA. IT WAS OVER. YOU SHAKE HANDS, YOU'RE DONE. AS TIME PROGRESSED, PEOPLE GOT INTO ALTERCATIONS. IT'S RECORDED. NOW I'M EMBARRASSED BECAUSE I GOT WHOOPED AND EVERYONE KNOWS ABOUT IT ON FACEBOOK, INSTAGRAM, AND TWITTER. SO INSTEAD OF TAKING THAT WHOOPING, I'M GONNA MAKE SURE I CARRY A GUN 'CAUSE IT WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN. AND I THINK THAT'S A LOT OF IT, IT'S A LOT OF TRYING TO SHOW HOW AGGRESSIVE, AND I DON'T WANNA SAY MACHISMO, BUT HOW, UH, THEY'RE NOT A WEAK INDIVIDUAL. AND THAT'S WHY WE, I BELIEVE THAT'S WHY WE'RE SEEING MORE GUNS AND THEY'RE ACCESSIBLE. THANK YOU JUDGE VALDEZ FOR COMING UP AND SHARING THAT. I THINK THAT WAS VERY ILLUSTRATIVE. AND I KNOW, UM, ONE THING I'M HEARING FROM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE, THE PREVALENCE OF GUNS AND ACCESS TO GUNS. SOMETHING I'M, I'M HEARING, UH, REPORTS FROM MY NEIGHBORHOODS A LOT ABOUT IS JUST GUNSHOTS. NOT NECESSARILY SOMEBODY BEING SHOT, BUT SOMEBODY DRIVING AROUND IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT FIRING OFF A GUN JUST FOR FUN MAYBE. UM, AND, AND, UH, WE'VE HAD SOME PUBLIC SAFETY TOWN HALLS, UH, WHEN THE LAST ONE THE CHIEF ATTENDED WITH US AND SHARED WITH US THAT HE HAD TEXTED THE OTHER POLICE CHIEFS IN HOUSTON, AUSTIN, AND DALLAS, TO ASK THEM, IS THAT SOMETHING THEY'RE EXPERIENCING? AND THEIR RESPONSE WAS EVERY MEETING, EVERY TIME. SO THERE'S A LOT OF THAT. AND, AND BASED ON THAT, YOU KNOW, I GUESS WE, WE'VE STARTED SOME CONVERSATIONS, MARIA AND, AND THE CHIEF AND I, AND I KNOW WE U TRIED TO USE A TECHNOLOGY TO DETECT DUNK GUNSHOTS IN THE PAST, IT WASN'T SUCCESSFUL. BUT CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE FOR US, I KNOW THERE ARE OTHER TECHNOLOGICAL SOLUTIONS MAYBE FOR THAT, MAYBE NOT FOR THAT, BUT MAYBE OTHER THINGS. AND I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT WE GET A PRESENTATION, UM, IN ONE OF THESE COMMITTEES ON WHAT ALL TECHNOLOGY IS AVAILABLE TO LAW ENFORCEMENT RIGHT NOW, AND ARE THERE NEW TECHNOLOGIES THAT WE CAN BE ADOPTING THAT CAN HELP US, UM, YOU KNOW, DO A BETTER JOB ON PUBLIC SAFETY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN BRAVO. I, I'LL SAY, UM, CHIEF HAS BEEN, UH, GOING TO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS WITH ME FOR SOME TIME NOW. AND, UM, A LOT OF WHAT WE HEAR ABOUT IS THESE RANDOM GUNSHOTS. UM, I THINK BOTH JUDGES THAT TALKED ABOUT THAT HERE TODAY, UM, HAVE SAID SOMETHING THAT I'VE HEARD CHIEF CONSISTENTLY SAY IN THE COMMUNITY, AND IT'S ACCESS TO GUNS. AND, UM, THE OTHER THING IS, UH, ACCORDING TO, WELL, I WANNA SAY THIS, UM, THE OTHER PART THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT PART OF THE COMMUNICATION IS, UM, WE SPOKE WITH ONE SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, GOOD NEIGHBORHOOD, GOOD PEOPLE THERE A LONG TIME. AND THEY WERE PUTTING ON FACEBOOK THAT THEY WERE HEARING THE GUNSHOTS AND EVEN FINDING CASINGS, BUT WEREN'T REPORTING IT. UM, SO, YOU KNOW, FACEBOOK DOESN'T COUNT, RIGHT? YOU HAVE TO CALL AND REPORT IT. SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ALSO UNDERSTAND AND WE'RE LETTING THE COMMUNITY KNOW. AND I THINK A JUDGE MENTIONED THIS, COMMUNICATE TO OUR CONSTITUENTS THAT YOU HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO REPORT IT. YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE REPORT. AND [01:00:01] SO, YOU KNOW, THE POLICE AT LEAST KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, WHERE IT'S GOING ON. BUT BACK TO THE, UM, TECHNOLOGY, I, I THINK I, I'LL ACTUALLY ASK CHIEF TO SPEAK ON THAT. I THINK YOU TALKED ABOUT THE, UM, IT'S CALLED LIKE THE SHOT SPOTTER. UM, WOULD YOU JUST MENTION THAT BRIEFLY? SO, SHOT SPOTTER SHOTS, SPOTTER IS A TECHNOLOGY THAT CAME OUT SEVERAL YEARS AGO, UH, AT LEAST BACK, UM, I DON'T KNOW, 6, 7, 8 YEARS AGO. WE TRIED IT HERE FOR A, IT WAS AN EIGHT MONTH, UM, PILOT, UH, AT THE, AND WE WENT TO A, A LOT OF DIFFERENT EXTREMES TO CORDON OFF THE AREAS THAT WERE SELECTED. ONE ON THE EAST, ONE ON THE WEST, FAIRLY SMALL AREAS. UH, WE PUT AN OFFICER IN THOSE AREAS, TWO OFFICERS IN THOSE AREAS WITH THE AUTHORITY TO RESPOND TO A GUNSHOT ALERT CODE. TWO WITH LIGHTS. THEY HAD A, THEY HAD A PHONE, WHICH ALERTED THEM WHEN THE, UH, SHOT SPOTTER DETECTED A SOUND THAT WAS A GUNSHOT. AND AS SOON AS THEY WOULD GET THERE, THERE WAS NO ONE AND EIGHT MONTHS WE MADE THREE ARRESTS, UH, BASED ON A GUNSHOT ALERT, BUT IT WASN'T THE GUNSHOT ALERT ALONE. IT WAS A CALL FROM A CITIZEN WHO ACTUALLY DESCRIBED THE INDIVIDUAL WHO WAS NOT SMART ENOUGH TO LEAVE THE SCENE AFTER HE FIRED THE SHOT AND HE WAS ARRESTED. BUT IT WASN'T BASED ON THE, THE DETECTION SYSTEM. IF YOU WANT A SYSTEM THAT DATABASES AND CATALOGS, THE NUMBER OF SHOTS, GREAT SYSTEM. BUT MY MEASURE OF SUCCESS FOR ANY KIND OF TECHNOLOGY THAT, THAT DETECTS GUNSHOTS IS HOW MANY ARRESTS DO WE MAKE FROM IT? HOW MANY GUNS DO WE RECOVER? AND I BELIEVE I WAS ON COUNCIL WHEN WE NO LONGER, UM, NO LONGER, UH, HAD SHOT SPOTTER. AND AS A DEFENSE COUNSEL AND THEN PROSECUTORS, YOU CAN'T PROVE THAT. UM, YOU CAN'T PROVE THAT THEY SHOT THAT WEAPON. AND THEN WHEN I WAS ON COUNCIL SPEAKING TO THE PEOPLE FROM SHOT SPOTTER, IT WAS GEARED TOWARDS, UM, EAST COAST HIGH RISE ENVIRONMENTS WHERE THEY KNOW A GUNSHOT WENT OFF IN A CERTAIN BUILDING SO THEY KNOW WHICH BUILDING TO COME TO HERE. WE'RE SO SPREAD OUT THAT SOMEONE PULLS THAT TRIGGER. MORE LIKELY THAN NOT, THEY'RE GONE EITHER IN A CAR OR THEY'RE RUNNING. AND BY THE TIME PD CAN GET THERE, NO ONE'S CAN FIND 'EM UNLESS SOMEONE'S WATCHING THEM CALLING PD SAYING, I SEE HIM, I SEE HIM, I SEE HIM. AND I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY ALL THREE OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE CALLING IN THAT SITUATION. THANK YOU. AND I, I MEAN, WE CAN TALK ABOUT MANY, MAYBE OTHER TECHNOLOGY THAT'S OUT THERE. UM, I DON'T KNOW. BUT, UM, I THINK BACK TO THE POINT THAT IF, YOU KNOW, OLD SCHOOL, IF YOU SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING, UM, CALL, AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT'S GONNA CATCH, UM, THE BAD GUYS, AS IT WERE. SO, UH, THANK YOU AGAIN. DID OH, SURE. GO AHEAD. COUNCILMAN BRAVO. THANK YOU, CHAIR. UH, AND JUDGE SHAW, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS FOR YOU. UM, YOU KNOW, YOU ALL MENTIONED A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT SPECIALTY COURTS, BUT YOU DIDN'T MENTION A HOMELESS COURT, SPECIALTY COURT. UM, AND I'M JUST WONDERING, IS THERE A REASON WHY YOU DON'T HAVE A SPECIALTY HOMELESS COURT? AND IS, IS THERE A WAY THAT, THAT, THAT COULD HELP? I DON'T THINK, WE DON'T HAVE A, A HOMELESS COURT. I THINK THE NUMBER OF HOMELESS KIDS THAT WE SEE ARE VERY SMALL. UM, I CAN THINK OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD TOO, THAT WE'RE AT HAVING FOR HOPE, BUT IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO BE THERE BECAUSE OF, UH, HAVING CHILDREN IN THAT ENVIRONMENT. BUT I DON'T BELIEVE REFERRAL WISE, WE GET A LOT OF HOMELESS CHILDREN. I MEAN, YEAH, WE DO REFERRALS AND SERVICES SURE. IN TERMS OF HAVING ENOUGH TO PROVIDE, ESPECIALLY DOCKET YEAH. SPECIALTY COURT. WE'LL PROBABLY MAYBE GET TWO OR THREE IN THERE. OKAY. THANK YOU. I FEEL LIKE I MIGHT BE HERE FOR YEAH, AND SHE'S OUR MOST SENIOR JUDGE, SO, SO I HAD A CHILD IN FRONT OF ME YESTERDAY WHO'S HOMELESS AND, UM, THEY LIVE IN HAVEN FOR HOPE. AND THEN HE GOT IN TROUBLE. SO HE GOT KICKED OUT, BUT MOM HAS SIX KIDS AND SHE HAS A PART-TIME JOB. SHE CAN'T AFFORD HOUSING. SHE SAID SHE'S ON A WAIT LIST, AND IT WAS GONNA BE SIX, FOUR TO SIX MONTHS. SO SHE TRIED AUNT, A FAMILY FRIEND, THEY WERE TRYING TO GET AHOLD OF AN UNCLE. BASICALLY THE CHILD FOR A WEEK WAS LIKE SLEEPING IN OTHER PEOPLE'S VEHICLES, UM, SNUCK INTO WHERE HIS GRANDMOTHER RESIDES, BUT HE'S NOT ALLOWED TO BE. AND THEN ULTIMATELY HE WAS VIOLATING HIS PROBATION, SO WE DETAINED HIM. SO HE'S, HE WAS DETAINED, BUT C P S ARRIVED AND INFORMED ME THAT BECAUSE MOM CAN'T TAKE CARE OF HIM, THAT SHE MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF HER OTHER SIX CHILDREN TOO. SO NOW THEY WERE LOOKING AT, POSSIBLY LOOKING AT HER FOR REMOVAL, WHICH WAS VERY UPSETTING TO THE WHOLE FAMILY AND TO HER. AND SO I WAS ASKING THE C P S WORKER, IF YOU TRULY WANNA HELP, HELP THIS MOM FIND A HOUSE, THAT'S ALL SHE NEEDS. 'CAUSE THEN HER SON CAN GO WITH HER AND HER OTHER SIX CHILDREN CAN GO WITH HER. SHE'S BEEN HOMELESS AT LEAST SINCE NOVEMBER. AND THEN YOU BROUGHT UP, YOU KNOW, THE ISSUE AND NOW YOU'VE BROUGHT UP THE ISSUE. SO THEN I GUESS MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, I, [01:05:01] I TOLD HER, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, I DON'T, I CAN'T GIVE YOU A HOUSE, BUT SOMEBODY HAS TO BE ABLE TO HELP. SO WHAT CAN I POSSIBLY DO TO TRY TO HELP THIS MOM HAVE A ROOF OVER HER HEAD BECAUSE HER CHILD CAN NO LONGER RESIDE AT HAVEN FOR HOPE, AND NOW HE'S RESIDING IN THE DETENTION CENTER. CAN ANYBODY HELP ? SO THAT, THAT'S THE QUESTION. UM, WE, WE HAVE WORKED, THIS COUNCIL HAS WORKED A LOT ON HOUSING. I KNOW WE'RE GETTING WAY OFF TOPIC, BUT THIS IS A REALLY GOOD, UM, DISCUSSION. IT'S INFORMATIVE. WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT HOUSING. UM, AT COUNCIL, WE'VE HAD A, A, A HOUSING BOND, UH, SPECIFICALLY FOR CASES LIKE THAT. UH, I THINK, UH, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT AFFORDABLE HO HOMES IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THE, WHAT WE RUN INTO IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD HERE IS AFFORDABLE, AND THEY GET KIND OF, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T WANT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THEIR BACKYARDS. AND SO IT, IT'S A, IT'S A PUSH AND A PULL, BUT, UM, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT SOMEBODY LIKE THIS, IT'S NOT, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THEY THINK ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS SOMEBODY THAT'S NOT LIKE THIS. IT JUST KIND OF NEEDS A, A LITTLE BIT OF HELP, CAN, CAN DO EVERYTHING ELSE SHE NEEDS TO DO, BUT NEEDS A PLACE TO LIVE. SO THIS IS A STORY THAT WE TELL OFTEN IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS TO TRY TO GET SUPPORT FOR HOUSING. BUT WE HAVE THE BOND, WE HAVE HOUSING, UM, OF COURSE FUNDING AND THE BUDGET. UM, WE HAVE THE SHIP A, A, A PLAN. AND I KNOW THAT, UH, A COUPLE OF US NOW ARE WORKING ON A SPECIFIC PLAN FOR THIS. MY, ONE OF MY BIG, UH, PUSHES IS FOR FOSTER CHILDREN THAT ARE AGING OUT OF THE SYSTEM, UH, BUT HOUSING FOR THEM, RIGHT? SO WITH WRAPAROUND SERVICES, BECAUSE I THINK A HOUSE WOULD BE HELPFUL TO, TO THIS MOM WITH SIX CHILDREN, BUT IF SHE HAD EXTRA SUPPORT FROM NONPROFITS, UM, TO REALLY HELP HER GET A LEG UP, I THINK THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE MORE, UM, OF A SUSTAINABLE, UM, ASSISTANCE. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT, THAT DOESN'T REALLY ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, BUT WE ARE WORKING ON IT. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF MARIA, YOU HAVE SOMETHING? I MEAN, YES. UH, THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN. SO WE HAVE A DEPARTMENT, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOUSING SERVICES, AND WE'LL BE HAPPY TO CONNECT WITH, WITH YOU ALL AND THE SERVICES THAT WE HAVE. SO THIS, THIS CONVERSATION HAS BEEN HELPFUL TO HELP US IDENTIFY AND COORDINATE SOME OF THE WORK THAT, THAT WE DO AND THE SERVICES THAT THE CD PROVIDES. SO WE'LL BE HAPPY TO REACH OUT TO YOU, UH, TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES ACCESSIBLE TO YOUR, TO, TO THE CLIENTS THAT YOU SERVE. OKAY. THANK YOU. I WONDER IF LONG TERM TOO, THERE'S A WAY TO COORDINATE, UM, REFERRALS FROM YOUR, UH, COURTS TO, TO, TO THE CITY AND, AND, AND THE COUNTY I'M SURE HAS, UM, OTHER SERVICES TOO, BUT, UM, MORE OF A COORDINATED EFFORT. SO THIS IS KIND OF A ONE-OFF THING. IT'S NOT JUST THIS ONE FAMILY, OBVIOUSLY. WELL, I'M SURE THIS STORY HAPPENS ALL THE TIME, BUT IT HAPPENED YESTERDAY AND THEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT. YEAH. AND THEN WELL, I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT IT UP THOUGH, SO WE CAN SOMEHOW COORDINATE. UH, GO AHEAD, KEN. I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THAT WE, WE HAVE SECURED $45 MILLION FOR PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE CHRONICALLY HOMELESS. THAT WOULD INCLUDE WRAPAROUND SERVICES. AND I BELIEVE IT'S COMING TO A VOTE FOR RECOMMENDATION TO CONTRACT OUT TO START DESIGNING AND BUILDING IT NEXT MONTH IN COUNCIL. THANK YOU. AND ONE THING I WOULD SAY, I THINK WE, ALL OF US HAVE SEEN THIS, IS THAT IF A, A YOUTH OR A YOUNG PERSON COMMITS A CRIME, LET'S SAY AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, AND THAT THAT CHILD'S CAUGHT, THE PARENTS ARE, UM, EITHER THEY'RE TOLD THEY HAVE TO VACATE, VACATE THE PREMISES BECAUSE OF THAT CHILD. SO NOW THAT THAT FAMILY HAS NOT ALWAYS BEEN HOMELESS, BUT SINCE THE OFFENSE OCCURRED, THEY KNOW WHO COMMITTED THE OFFENSE THAT KID LIVES IN A CERTAIN APARTMENT, MEAN A LOT OF TIMES THEY ASK THEM TO LEAVE AND THERE'S NO PLACE FOR THEM TO GO. SO WE DO RUN ACROSS THAT MORE OFTEN THAN NOT. AND I THINK WHAT ALL THIS IS ILLUSTRATIVE OF IS HOW MUCH ALL OF THESE ISSUES OVERLAP. AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T JUST INVEST IN ONE AREA. WE NEED TO, WE, WE, WE NEED TO APPROACH THIS IN A HOLISTIC WAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN BRAVO. COUNCILWOMAN . YEAH. AND THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT STORY. UH, JUDGE, I THINK THE ONE THING, AND I'M GONNA, OH, AND WHY I ASKED ABOUT THE DEMOGRAPHICS FOR, UH, THE FEMALES IN THE SYSTEM IS AGAIN, AND I'LL, I I CONTINUE TO GO BACK THIS 21% OF SAN ANTONIANS LIVE, UM, BELOW THE POVERTY RATE OF THAT 21%, 50% ARE WOMEN. SO WE NEED TO START COLLECTING INFORMATION ABOUT THESE WOMEN, THE STRUGGLES THAT THEY'RE HAVING. IF THEY HAVE THE SIX KIDS AND ONE IS NOT GOING TO SCHOOL THEIR OLDEST OR A MIDDLE ONE, HOW, HOW DO WE HELP THEM GET OUT OF THIS? BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT IS IMPACTING, I BELIEVE THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AND I WILL GO BACK AND IT IS WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH STILL, IS THAT WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF OUR WOMEN. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT THEY HAVE, UM, TO, TO CHANGE THE DIRECTION OF THEIR LIVES AND THEN CHANGE THE DIRECTION OF THEIR, THEIR CHILDREN. SO I THINK PART OF THAT INTAKE, WHEN, WHEN Y'ALL DO THE PROCESS AND Y'ALL ASK THOSE QUESTIONS, ARE, ARE THERE CHILDREN AT HOME? DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER TRUANCY PROBLEMS WITH CHILDREN AT HOME? AND THEN BRINGING THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER BECAUSE IT, IT'S ABOUT PREVENTING, UM, THIS FROM CONTINUING. SO [01:10:01] WHILE THE ONE CHILD YES, UM, IS NOW IN THE SYSTEM AND HOPEFULLY WILL CHANGE THE DIRECTION WHEN WE WANNA MAKE SURE IS THE, THE OTHER FIVE KIDS AT HOME KNOW THAT, THAT THIS ISN'T THE, THEIR DIRECTION THAT THEY HAVE TO TAKE. UH, SO I WANNA STRESS ON THAT. AND, AND I DO WANT TO, ANY INFORMATION THAT Y'ALL GATHER THAT YOU CAN TELL US OF, IT'S LIKE, IT'S ABOUT ACCESSIBILITY. THE GUNS ARE JUST THERE, KIND OF LIKE YOU MENTIONED, UM, THE CARS ARE JUST PARKED ON THE STREET AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S TOO TEMPTING FOR THEM TO JUST, YOU KNOW, KIND OF BREAK THAT WINDOW AND TAKE WHAT'S EVER IN, IN THE, UM, YOU KNOW, OUT, OUT IN THE CONSOLE. WE NEED TO KNOW THOSE STORIES SO WE CAN HELP OUR, OUR RESIDENTS BE BETTER PROTECTED. I'M CONSTANTLY TELLING THEM, PARK IN THE DRIVEWAY. UH, AND THE SAFE OFFICERS ARE CONSTANTLY TELLING THEM, PUT YOUR KEY FOB FAR AWAY IN THE INTERIOR OF THE HOUSE. SO ANYTHING THAT YOU, IN TERMS OF THOSE NON-VIOLENT CRIMES THAT YOU'RE SEEING THAT WE COULD HELP COMMUNICATE TO, TO, TO STAY SAFER, UH, WITH OUR RESIDENTS, I'D APPRECIATE THAT TOO. BUT THE, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE PRESENTATION. AND THE THING ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY, THOUGH, I'M, I'M JUST GONNA MENTION THIS BEFORE WE DO ANY TECHNOLOGY, I THINK WE NEED TO GET A COORDINATED EFFORT BETWEEN THE COUNTY, THE CITY, AND OUR OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, AND MAYBE TAKE THIS TO ACOG, BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS ONE OF US, ONE OF THE GOVERNING ENTITIES BUYS TECHNOLOGY THAT'S INCOMPATIBLE WITH OTHERS TECHNOLOGY. SO WE NEED TO BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT THAT PROCESS AS WE WORK TOGETHER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN GERRAN, UM, THANK YOU AGAIN. THANK YOU TO ALL THE DISTRICT COURT JUDGES AND THEIR, AND THEIR STAFF FOR BEING HERE TODAY. OF COURSE, JUDGE BLATO AND YOUR STAFF, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. UM, AND THANKS FOR, I THINK, UH, VERY PRODUCTIVE MEETING. UNEXPECTED, I THINK SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS, BUT INCREDIBLY INFORMATIVE AND PRODUCTIVE. I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THIS WORK WITH YOU ALL IN APRIL, AND THE COMMITTEE WILL NOW GO INTO EXECUTIVES. ARE WE GOING TO EXEC? ACTUALLY, NO. THE, THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED, CORRECT? RIGHT? YES. THANKS. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.