* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [Work Session 12:30 P. M. Discussion of 1) Mission Protection Overlay District (MPOD) Expansion, 2) Gardendale Large Area, 3) the Verde Hills Area Rezoning and 4) Hill Country Gateway Corridor “GC-1” update. Staff briefing regarding case recommendations and other items for consideration on the posted agenda. Commissioners may direct questions to staff regarding items noticed on the posted agenda or regarding City of San Antonio policies or operations in order to elicit a response of specific factual information or a recitation of existing policy pursuant to Section 551.042 of the Texas Government Code.] [00:00:04] GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF WE COULD HAVE OUR SPANISH TRANSLATION SERVICES STATEMENT TO START US OFF. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UH, BEFORE WE BEGIN, UM, WE STILL HAVE MASKS AVAILABLE, RIGHT? ALRIGHT, GREAT. IF, UH, YOU WOULD LIKE A MASK BUT DID NOT BRING ONE, WE DO STILL HAVE SOME AVAILABLE OVER ON THE, THE SIDE, SO YOU CAN GO OVER THERE IF YOU WOULD LIKE. MY NAME IS ROB SIPES AND I'M THE CHAIR OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AND ALSO THE DISTRICT SEVEN ZONING COMMISSIONER. I HEREBY CALL THIS REGULARLY NOTICE MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION INTO SESSION. THE TIME IS ONE 17. I'D LIKE TO DO A ROLL CALL BY ALLOWING THE ZONING COMMISSIONERS TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, STARTING WITH THE COMMISSIONER ON MY FAR LEFT. MARCO BARROS, UH, DISTRICT NINE, JOHN BUSTEED, DISTRICT FIVE VAL ORTIZ, DISTRICT EIGHT TAYLOR WATSON, DISTRICT TWO. SUMMER GRADE HOUSE DISTRICT ONE. CHARLES FUENTES FOR DISTRICT THREE STAFF IS A QUORUM PRESENT. THE QUORUM IS PRESENT. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. WOULD EVERYONE PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? THANKS. PRIOR TO COMMENCING OUR HEARING, IF WE COULD GET STAFF TO REVIEW OUR MEETING FORMAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE STAFF PLEASE PROCEED. BEFORE I BEGIN, PLEASE TURN OFF YOUR PHONES OR VIBRATE. UM, PLEASE TURN YOUR PHONES ON VIBRATE OR TURN THEM OFF. THE ZONING COMMISSION IS AN 11 MEMBER BODY APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ZONING CASES UPON RECEIVING A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION, YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO FORWARD YOUR CASE TO CITY COUNCIL. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PROCEDURE, PLEASE CONTACT YOUR CASE MANAGER. STAFF WILL BEGIN EACH CASE WITH A SHORT PRESENTATION OF THE REQUEST. PART OF THE PRESENTATION INCLUDES A MAP THAT SHOWS THE AREA TO BE CONSIDERED FOR REZONING AND PROPERTY WITHIN 200 FEET OF THAT SUBJECT, PROPERTY CHECK MARKS INDICATE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND AN EX INDICATES THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN OPPOSITION. FOLLOWING THE PRESENTATION OF, OF ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION, THE APPLICANT WILL PRESENT THEIR REQUEST. FOR THOSE THAT HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE PROPOSED REZONING, YOU WILL BE CALLED IN ORDER THAT YOU ARE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. THOSE IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO MINUTES PER SPEAKER AND YOU ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO UTILIZE THE MAXIMUM TIME LIMITATION. YOU WILL BE BE INFORMED THAT THE TWO MINUTES ARE UP. FOR THOSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEIR TIME TO A SPEAKER, THAT SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO PEOPLE GIVING THEIR TIME FOR A TOTAL OF SIX MINUTES. THOSE GIVING UP THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AND SIGNED IN TO SPEAK. PLEASE BE AWARE THAT IF YOU ARE ASSIGNING YOUR TIME TO SOMEONE AND THEY ARE CALLED UP BEFORE YOU, YOU MUST NOTIFY US IMMEDIATELY BEFORE THEY START TO SPEAK BECAUSE YOU WILL NOT, ONCE THEY'RE FINISHED SPEAKING, YOU CANNOT GIVE MORE TIME TO THEM. ALSO, UM, IF WE CALL YOUR NAME FIRST AND YOU WANT TO GIVE YOUR TIME TO SOMEBODY ELSE AT THE PODIUM, JUST PLEASE LET US KNOW SO WE CAN ADD YOUR TIME TO THEIR DISCUSSION AGAIN. UH, FOR IF YOU WERE TO GIVE UP YOUR TIME OF TWO MINUTES, IT'S GONNA BE A MAXIMUM OF SIX MINUTES FOR ONE PERSON THE APPLICANT. UM, AFTER THE SPEAKERS GO THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL LIMITED TO ONE SPEAKER WITH A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT ALONG WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSION QUESTIONS. THANK YOU CHAIR. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. STAFF, IF WE COULD GO OVER OUR POSTPONED OR ANY WITHDRAWN ITEMS PLEASE. ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN POSTPONED ARE, UM, ITEM NUMBER ONE CASE, UH, ONE 70, LOCATED AT 1327 BANDERA ROAD AND ITEM NUMBER 14, CASE ENDING IN 0 3 8 LOCATED AT 1718 WEST GRAMERCY PLACE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, [00:05:01] IF YOU ARE HERE FOR THE PROPERTIES AT 1327 BANDERA OR 1718 WEST GRAMERCY, YOU ARE FREE TO LEAVE AND ENJOY THE DAY AS THOSE ITEMS WILL NOT BE HEARD TODAY AND YOU WILL BE RE NOTIFIED IF ANY ACTION BEFORE ANY ACTION OCCURS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU STEPH. IF WE COULD GO OVER THE CURRENT LIST OF ITEMS ON THE COMBINED AGENDA FOR, UM, THE COMBINED AGENDA. WE'RE GONNA BREAK IT INTO TWO. THE FIRST GROUP WILL BE ITEMS NUMBER 12 15 16 17, 19 21, 23 AND THEN THE SECOND SECTION WILL BE ITEMS NUMBER 8, 9, 10, 18, 20 AND 24. COMMISSIONERS, ANY OF THESE ITEMS LISTED THAT YOU WISH TO PULL DOWN TO INDIVIDUAL LOOKING LEFT, LOOKING RIGHT REAL QUICK. SEEING NONE. [Zoning Items  ] ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD PLEASE READ THE COMBINED HEARING AGENDA NUMBER ONE INTO THE RECORD PLEASE FOR THE FIRST GROUP. ITEM NUMBER 12 IS A REQUEST TO FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C TWO TO C TWO S WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A CLUB PRIVATE WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. LOCATED AT 4 7 8 8 NORTHWEST LOOP 4 10 10 NOTICES WERE SENT. ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER 15 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM RMM FIVE TO C THREE AND C THREE CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTOR FACILITY WITH OUTDOOR STORAGE WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. LOCATED AT 2 4 1 8 WEST ANSLEY BOULEVARD. SIX NOTICES WERE SENT. THREE IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED VIA DELL SOLE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT OUTSIDE 200 FEET. THE OWNER'S ASSOCIATION OF LAGO VISTA IS ALSO IN SUPPORT. ITEM NUMBER 16 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C THREE TO I ONE WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. LOCATED AT 1 0 7 OLD CORPUS CHRISTI HIGHWAY AND THEY ARE REQUESTING TO AMEND. THE NEXT ITEM IS NUMBER 17 IS A REQUEST IN CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO C TWO WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. LOCATED AT 100 EAST SHA BEAU ROAD. 14 NOTICES WERE SENT OUT ONE IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED NO RESPONSE FROM VIA CORONADO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND OUTSIDE 200 FEET ONE WAS IN FAVOR AND I APOLOGIZE. I'M GONNA GO BACK TO ITEM NUMBER 16. I DID NOT GIVE THE COUNTS. UH, NINE NOTICES WERE SENT ONE IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION . GOING ON TO NI ITEM NUMBER 19 IS A REQUEST AND CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C THREE R TO C THREE WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. LOCATED AT 6 3 3 8 OLD PIOL ROAD. FOUR NOTICES WERE SENT. ONE IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND THERE IS NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER 21 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FIVE TO C TWO CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR CONSTRUCTION TRADES CONTRACTOR WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. LOCATED AT 2 0 2 AND 2 0 6 SHERWOOD DRIVE. 19. NOTICES WERE SENT, ZERO RETURNED IN FAVOR. ZERO OPPOSED. LOS ANGELES HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT. ITEM NUMBER 23 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C TWO AND C THREE TO C TWO CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR RECREATIONAL VEHICLE PARK WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE 9,500 BLOCK OF FREDERICKSBURG ROAD. 15 NOTICES WERE SENT. ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT FOR ITEM NUMBER 16 PLEASE? YES. JUST IF YOU COULD JUST COME TO THE FRONT AND TELL US HOW YOU'RE AMENDING YOUR CASE. [00:10:02] THANK YOU. THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS JACK JOYCE. I'M WITH CONVERSE TOWN CENTER, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION. WE ARE REQUESTING AN AMENDMENT FROM I ONE TO L BECAUSE IT GIVES, IT GIVES US THE SAME, PRETTY MUCH THE SAME INDUSTRIAL KIND OF USES, BUT ADDS A FEW MORE RETAIL USES THAT WE THINK MIGHT BE A POSSIBILITY OUT IN THAT NECK OF THE WOODS. YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE WHAT'S GONNA BE HAPPENING. OUR OUR THINKING PROBABLY IS OFFICE, WAREHOUSE OR WAREHOUSE OF SOME TIME, SOME KIND. BUT WE DO WANT TO ALLOW FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF RETAIL. SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE CHANGE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. AND DO WE HAVE ANY, UM, PUBLIC COMMENT ON ANY OF THESE ITEMS ON THE FIRST HEARING? WE DO, UM, FOR ITEM NUMBER 21, WE HAVE A VOICEMAIL. ALL RIGHT. NO, NO. SUSAN SIGNED UP. I'M CHECKING. APOLOGIES. OKAY, SORRY. 15. WHILE YOU'RE DOING THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE FOR THE RECORD, HI, MY NAME IS DEBORAH MEYERS, SORRY. AND I LIVE AT 2 0 3 GREEN LAWN. I HAVE DONE SO FOR 32 YEARS. MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 585-6254. I'M CALLING REGARDING REZONING CASE NUMBER 1 0 7 0 0 0 4 7. I'M AGAINST REZONING OF THE PROPERTIES, UM, AT 2 0 2 AND 2 0 6 SHERWOOD FROM URBAN LOW DENSITY TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL OR C TWO BECAUSE THE PROPERTY BACKS UP TO AND IS ADJACENT TO A HISTORICAL RES RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS WOULD DISTURB THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN MANY WAYS. WHO KNOWS WHAT KIND OF BUSINESS MIGHT END UP THERE, BUT THE POTENTIAL FOR BUSINESSES SUCH AS AUTO AND LIGHT TRUCK OIL, LUBE AND TUNEUPS, AUTO GLASS TINTING, TIRE REPAIR, GAS STATIONS, APPLIANCE SALES AND REPAIR, LIQUOR STORE, MINIATURE GOLF, INDOOR AND OUTDOOR GAMING FACILITIES, SMALL MOVIE THEATER, A PET CEMETERY, CHARITABLE FOODS, CLOTHING, BANKS, AND DRY CLEANING. THESE BUSINESS COULD POTENTIALLY EXPOSE THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO, UH, WATER, NOISE, AIR, AND LIGHT POLLUTION. NOT ONLY DURING THE DAY, BUT ON EVENINGS AND WEEKENDS IS A RESULT OF THE NATURES OF THE AFOREMENTIONED POSSIBILITIES. THIS WOULD DISRUPT, DISRUPT AND DISTURB THE PEACE AND QUIET OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. IMPACT OF A LARGE BUILDING AND CONCRETE ACCESSES AND PARKING WILL ALSO IMPACT DRAINAGE AND WATER FLOW TO THE DRAINAGE AREA AT THE REAR EASEMENT OF THE PROPERTIES AND POSSIBLY CAUSE FLOODING DAMAGE TO ADJACENT PROPERTIES SUCH AS FENCES, LANDSCAPE STRUCTURES AND MORE. MY FAMILY BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY BECAUSE IT IS A QUIET, PEACEFUL AREA WITH LOTS OF BIRDS AND WILDLIFE AND WE WANT, DO NOT WANT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IMPACTED BY MORE BUSINESS. ONCE AGAIN, I'M AGAINST THE REZONING OF THE AFOREMENTIONED PROPERTY PROPERTIES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION. ALL RIGHT. WAS THAT ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WE HAD? YES. OKAY. UM, I'D LIKE TO READ THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER LIGA HOLLAND JOINED US AT 1:26 PM AND, UM, I BELIEVE WE HAVE A QUESTION FROM COMMISSIONERS. A QUESTION FOR STAFF ON, UM, THE VOICEMAIL THAT WAS JUST PLAYED FOR ITEM 21. COULD YOU JUST CONFIRM THAT, UM, THE, THE PROPOSAL THERE IS FOR C TWO CD FOR CONDITIONAL USE FOR CONSTRUCTION TRADES CONTRACTOR AND NOT FOR THE OTHER USES THAT WERE, UM, LISTED IN THE VOICEMAIL? UM, SORRY. UH, IT IS A CD FOR THE CONTRACTOR FACILITY, WHICH GOES BEYOND C TWO, BUT THEY WOULD BE ALSO PERMITTED ITEMS OR USES THAT ARE ALREADY, THAT WOULD BE PERMITTED IN C TWO. OKAY, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? ALRIGHT. UM, IS THERE A MOTION BY ANY COMMISSIONER FOR THESE, THIS SET OF ITEMS? I'LL MAKE A MOTION, MR. CHAIR FOR TO, UH, APPROVE ITEMS 12, 15 16 AS AMENDED 17, 19 21 AND 23. ALL RIGHT. THERE IS A MOTIONAL MOTION MOTION FOR APPROVAL. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. I'LL SECOND. OKAY, THANK YOU. UH, MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEMS 12 15 16 AS AMENDED [00:15:01] 17 19 21 23. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES. COULD ANY DISCUSSION LOOKING LEFT, LOOKING RIGHT IF WE GET A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER FUENTES. AYE. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER LUGA HOLLAND? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. AYE. CHAIR SIPES? YES. ITEMS PASS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU ARE HERE FOR ANY OF THOSE ITEMS LISTED ON THAT COMBINED AGENDA, THOSE ITEMS ARE NOW MOVING ON TO CITY COUNCIL AND SO YOU ARE FREE TO LEAVE AND ENJOY THE REST OF THE DAY. THANK YOU. IF WE COULD MOVE ON. OH WAIT. . I KNOW IF WE COULD, UH, NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE IS RECUSING AND HAS LEFT THE MEETING ROOM AT 1 32. AND THEN IF WE COULD NOW READ INTO THE RECORD THE COMBINED HEARING NUMBER TWO FOR COMBINED HEARING. UH, NUMBER TWO. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM MULTIPLE BASE ZONING DISTRICTS. TWO R ONE R TWO R THREE R THREE CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO THREE R FOUR DWELLING UNITS. R FOUR R FIVE R FIVE CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO, THREE, OR FOUR DWELLING UNITS. R SIX R SIX CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO, THREE, OR FOUR DWELLING UNITS. RMM FOUR, RMM FIVE, RMM SIX MF 18 MF 33 MF 65 0 1 0 1 0.5 NC C THREE L AND I ONE WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. 1022 NOTICES WERE SENT. ONE IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED. AND GARDENDALE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT AND THEY DO NEED TO, UM, AMEND THE BOUNDARY AT THE PODIUM FOR ITEM NUMBER NINE. LINE IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING TO APPLY THE EXPANDED MISSION PROTECTION OVERLAY DISTRICT TO EXISTING BASE ZONING DISTRICTS WITH ALL EXISTING OVERLAY DISTRICTS REMAINING UNCHANGED. GENERALLY LOCATED BY MISSION ROAD, ROOSEVELT AVENUE AND A SPOTTER ROAD AND LOCATED BETWEEN 1500 FEET AND 1800 FEET. FROM MISSION CONCEPTION. MISSION SAN JOSE, MISSION SAN JUAN AND MISSION ASA OVERLAY DISTRICTS 922 NOTICES WERE SENT. ONE IN FAVOR, TWO OPPOSED. MISSION SAN JOSE HOT WELLS MISSION REACH AND VIA CORONADO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS ARE IN FAVOR. ITEM NUMBER 10 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM MF 33 AND C TWO TO MF 33 WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. LOCATED AT 53 19 CREST WAY ROAD NINE NOTICES WERE SENT ZERO IN FAVOR. ZERO OPPOSED NO RESPONSE FROM THE BRISTOL FOREST HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER 18 IS A REQUEST AND CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C ONE AND C TWO TO RMM FOUR WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. LOCATED AT 43 0 7 CHANDLER ROAD. 43 NOTICES WERE SENT. ONE IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED AND NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER 20 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C THREE NA AND C TWO P TO I DZ THREE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR A SUPPORTIVE HOUSING CAMPUS WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. LOCATED AT FOUR 19 AND 4 25 SAN PEDRO AVENUE. NINE NOTICES WERE SENT. ONE IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED TOBIN HILL COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION. I'M SORRY, TOBIN HILL COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT. AND THEN ITEM NUMBER 24 IS A REQUEST AND CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO R M FOUR WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. LOCATED AT 1513 LEO STREET. 28 NOTICES WERE SENT. ZERO. RETURNED IN FAVOR. ZERO OPPOSED WEST END HOPE IN ACTION. NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR. OKAY, THANK YOU. IF WE COULD HAVE, UH, FOR ITEM EIGHT, IF WE COULD HAVE STAFF UP TO AMEND THE BOUNDARIES PLEASE. HI, CHRIS VAN AIKEN, SENIOR PLANNER. UM, WE'RE REQUESTING THAT 1118 NORTH COLORADO BE REMOVED FROM CONSIDERATION. THE PROPERTY OWNER [00:20:01] INITIALLY ASKED FOR 1116 NORTH COLORADO TO BE REMOVED, BUT THE BUSINESS ON THOSE PROPERTIES USES BOTH PARCELS SO IT MAKES THE MOST SENSE TO REMOVE BOTH. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THESE ITEMS? YES, WE DO. UM, WE DO HAVE A VOICEMAIL FOR ITEM NUMBER EIGHT AND THEN WE DO HAVE A SPEAKER, I BELIEVE FOR WELL ITEM NUMBER 10. THE, UH, APPLICANT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK BUT YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE TO SPEAK IF YOU DON'T NEED TO. NO, IT'S OKAY. THE LETTER'S PART DIRECTLY AND 18 20 24. ITEM NUMBER NINE, WE HAVE A SPEAKER. ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HAVE THE VOICEMAIL FIRST. SO VOICEMAIL FOR EIGHT AND THEN SPEAKER FOR NINE. YES. HI, THIS IS GARDENDALE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT MARIELLA GARZA. 4 3 0 6 1 6 1 WITH AREA CODE 2 1 0. CALLING IN FAVOR, UH, WITH RESPONSE TO THE COMMUNITY, UM, FOR ZONING CASE LEAD 2 20 22 1 0 7 0 0 3 2 9. UM, IN THE COMMENT, HI, THE PHONE LINE KEEPS CUTTING OFF. THIS IS MARIELLA GARZA WITH GARDENDALE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. UM, COMMUNITY RESIDENTS MET WITH THE CASE MANAGER AND INQUIRED ON THE PROPERTY AND CONCERNS. SAFETY IN THE AREA OF LIVING WAS KEY AMONG THE ABILITY TO PARTICIPATE AND BE INFORMED OF THE OVERALL GROWTH AND PLAN FOR COMMUNITY. UH, CONTINUING MESSAGE SAFETY IN THE AREA OF LIVING, UM, WAS KEY ALONG WITH ABILITY TO PARTICIPATE AND BE INFORMED OF THE OVERALL GROWTH PLAN FOR OUR COMMUNITY, NEIGHBORHOOD, THE GARDENDALE COMMUNITY, RESIDENTS WANTING TO KEEP IT RESIDENTIAL AND EXPRESS WANTING APPROPRIATE GROWTH WITH DECREASE IN NON-PROFIT AGENCIES. COMMUNITY RE IS THAT IT? OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S IT OF THE VOICEMAIL. YEAH, HER VOICEMAIL KEPT GETTING BROKEN UP, SO WE JUST PLAYED ALL THREE. GREAT. TO MAKE A COMPLETE ONE. AND THEN LASTLY, UH, FOR ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, RIGHT? NINE. I THOUGHT YOU SAID NINE. I AM SORRY. THERESA. MS. THERESA YBANEZ. MY NAME IS TERESA IVANEZ. I LIVE AT 1438 NAPIER AVENUE. I'M A MEMBER OF MISSION SAN JOSE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND ONE OF THE, UH, PEOPLE THAT CREATED THIS, THIS, UH, U D C AMENDMENT. UH, I JUST WANTED TO, UM, CLARIFY THAT THIS AMENDMENT IS INCREASING THE CURRENT, UH, POD FROM AN EXTRA 300 FEET AND IT IS ONLY AFFECTING THE HEIGHT OF BUILDINGS OR CONSTRUCTION AROUND OR NEAR THE MISSIONS. THE FOUR MISSIONS, UH, WE ARE TRYING TO BE PROACTIVE IN THAT, UH, WE SEE THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS GOING TO OCCUR, UH, IN THE SOUTH SIDE AND WE WANT TO ASSURE THAT OUR MISSIONS ARE PROTECTED, UH, FROM BUILDINGS CIRCLING IT OR CREATING A VALLEY AROUND, UH, THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT AND PART OF THE WORLD HERITAGE DESIGNATION. THANK YOU FOR, UM, SUPPORTING, UM, US AND I HOPE IT IT PASSES AND GOES ON TO COUNCIL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MS. IBAN. UM, WAS THAT THE END OF, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT? YES. ALRIGHT. WITH THAT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FROM A COMMISSIONER FOR THIS MR. CHAIR. YES. I MOVE TO APPROVE EIGHT AS AMENDED. 9, 10, 18, 20 AND 24. ALRIGHT, THERE'S A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. SECOND. ALRIGHT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF EIGHT AS AMENDED 9 10 18, 20 AND 24. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER BUSTA MONTE. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON. IF WE COULD GET, UH, ANY DISCUSSION, UH OH BRIEFLY, MR. CHAIR? YES. UH, WITH RESPECT TO, UH, THE LARGE AREA REZONING, THAT'S ITEM EIGHT. I DID WANNA MAKE CLEAR THAT THE S A I S D BUOY LEARNING ACADEMY, I'M SORRY, LEARNING CENTER AT 4 39 ARBOR PLACE IS BEING DOWN ZONED FROM I ONE TO AN R SIX. UH, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF COMMUNITY INPUT ON THAT AND SO WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS THE CASE. AND WITH RESPECT, WITH RESPECT TO ITEM NUMBER NINE, I DID WANT TO THANK, UH, MISS IVANEZ FOR ALL THE WORK SHE DID IN GETTING THIS U D C AMENDMENT THROUGH AND [00:25:01] FOR HER WORK, PROTECTING OUR MISSIONS. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? LOOKING LEFT. LOOKING RIGHT. MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL WITH ITEM NUMBER EIGHT BEING AMENDED. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER BUSTAMENTE AYE. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER FUENTES. AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER LU HOLLAND? YES. CHAIR SIPES? YES. ITEMS PASS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. IF WE COULD GET SOMEONE TO FIND COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE AND INVITE HER BACK. OH. AND SO LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU WERE HERE FOR THOSE ITEMS, YOU ARE ALSO FREE TO LEAVE AND ENJOY THE REST OF THE DAY BEFORE THE RAIN COMES. ALRIGHT. AND SO IF WE WOULD NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT AT 1 42, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE HAS REJOINED THE MEETING. IF WE COULD NOW PROCEED ONTO THE ITEMS FOR CONTINUANCE. THE FIRST ITEM FOR CONTINUANCE IS ITEM NUMBER 22, IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO R SIX CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR THREE DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. LOCATED AT 2 8 5 POST AVENUE 20 NOTICES WERE SENT. ZERO IN FAVOR. ONE OPPOSED WESTFORD ALLIANCE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR WITH CONDITIONS AND THEY'RE REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE TO APRIL 18TH. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, DID WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? WE DO NOT. ALRIGHT. IT'S, IT'S A DISTRICT TWO CASE, SO COMMISSIONER WATSON? I, YEAH. OKAY. UM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE, UH, ITEM NUMBER 22 AT 2 85 POST AVENUE TO, UH, OUR NEXT HEARING ON APRIL 18TH. ALL RIGHT. THERE'S A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. ALRIGHT. MOTION IS FOR A CONTINUANCE BY COMMISSIONER WATSON TO THE APRIL 18TH MEETING. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES. ANY DISCUSSION? LOOKING LEFT. LOOKING RIGHT. IF WE COULD HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER FUENTES. AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER LIA HOLLAND? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE. UH, CHAIR S SIPES? YES. ITEM PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE ANOTHER ITEM FOR CONTINUANCE. MR. CHAIR, I JUST WANNA PUT ON THE RECORD THAT THE APPLICANT HAD REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE, UH, VIA EMAIL TO STAFF. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS CLEAR. OKAY. THANK YOU. THE SECOND ITEM, UM, FOR CONTINUANCE IS ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. UM, WITH, IT'S A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM MF 18 TO I D Z THREE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR 92 DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. LOCATED AT EIGHT 15 EAST GRAYSON STREET, 50 NOTICES WERE SENT. ONE IN FAVOR. SIX OPPOSED AND NO RESPONSE FROM THE GOVERNMENT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OUTSIDE 200 FEET. ONE IS IN FAVOR AND ONE IS OPPOSED. UM, I DO BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO GIVE, UM, TO REQUEST THE CONTINUANCE TO MAY 18TH. TWO THOU, UH, 2023. OKAY. IS THAT THE RIGHT DATE? YES. GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS, EMILY WEISLER KILLING GRIFFIN AND FAIRMAN. UH, WE DO RESPECTFULLY REQUEST A SIX WEEK CONTINUANCE TO MAY 18TH. UM, WE'VE BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY IN NEED, UM, A A LOT MORE TIME. UH, SO MAY 18TH IS A REQUESTED DATE FOR CONTINUANCE. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU DISTRICT. DID WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? WE DID NOT. OKAY, SO, UH, CAN WE JUST DOUBLE CHECK THAT I SEE ONE VOICEMAIL OPPOSITION ON OUR ? I APOLOGIZE. YES, WE DID. UH, VOICEMAIL PLEASE. THANK YOU. [00:30:01] MY NAME IS MARLENE HAWKINS. I LIVE IN GOVERNMENT HILL 6 0 1 EAST CARSON, CALLING ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AND THE GOVERNMENT HILL COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION 2,500 HOUSEHOLD STRONG. WE ARE CALLING IN SUPPORT OF THE DENIAL OF THE REQUEST THAT IS BEING MADE FOR ITEM SEVEN, CASE 2 1 1. UH, WE, UH, WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS TO DISCUSS WITH THE MERIDIAN PEOPLE REPURPOSING THE PRO THE PROPERTY IN ORDER TO MAKE IT MORE USABLE AND CITY FRIENDLY. I WILL LEAVE MY CONTACT NUMBER WITH THE PEER SUPPORT PERSON AND UH, THEY CAN GET IT FROM THERE AND WE CAN SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT REPURPOSING. THANK YOU COMMISSION FOR WHAT YOU DO. BYE-BYE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. AND, UM, MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HAVE ASKED, WE SAID MAY 18TH. IT SHOULD. THAT'S A THURSDAY, CORRECT? SHOULD BE THE 16TH. I COULDN'T READ MY HANDWRITING. THE 16TH. IT SAYS THE 16TH BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THAT CALENDAR INVITE. MAY SIX. YEAH, MAY 16TH I BELIEVE IS GONNA BE THE ACTUAL NEXT MAY 16TH. I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. MAY 18TH IS A THURSDAY. THE 16TH IS A TUESDAY. A SIX WEEK CONTINUANCE. THANK YOU, . ALL RIGHT. THIS IS A DISTRICT TWO. SO COMMISSIONER WATSON, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, LOCATED AT EIGHT 15 EAST GRAYSON TO THE HEARING TO BE HELD ON MAY 16TH. ALL RIGHT. THERE'S A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. ALRIGHT. MOTION IS FOR A CONTINUANCE TO MAY 16TH, THE TUESDAY BY COMMISSIONER WATSON. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE. ANY DISCUSSION? LOOKING LEFT. LOOKING RIGHT. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSTAMENTE. AYE. COMMISSIONER FUENTES. AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YEAH. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER LIA HOLLAND? YES. COMMISSIONER GREENHOUSE? YES. CHAIR SIPES? YES. ITEM PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. NOW WE WILL BE MOVING ON TO OUR INDIVIDUAL ITEMS. SO I BELIEVE THE FIRST ITEM IS NUMBER TWO, SO IF WE COULD HAVE STAFF'S PRESENTATION. THANKS. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS CAMERON BLACKMAN, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER TWO IS LOCATED AT ONE 17 WEST WOODLAWN AVENUE. GOING FROM R FOUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY TO R FOUR CD RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAY STAYING THE SAME. THERE WERE 25 NOTICES SENT OUT. TWO IN FAVOR. TWO OPPOSED, ONE OPPOSED, AND ONE IN FAVOR. OUTSIDE 200 FEET THE MONTE VISTA HISTORICAL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED. THE EXISTING R FOUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. THE REQUESTED R FOUR D RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS IS ALSO APPROPRIATE. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS IN A NEIGHBORHOOD WITH VARYING RESIDENTIAL DENSITIES AND COMMERCIAL USES. THE PROPOSED DENSITY AND CONFIGURATION WOULD MAINTAIN THE ESTABLISHED CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. ADDITIONALLY, THE PROPOSED USE WILL ALSO PROVIDE AN ALTERNATIVE HOUSING TYPE TO THE AREA AND ALIGNS WITH THE GOALS OF THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. THE PROPOSED USED IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA. SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE ZONED R FOUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT MF 33 MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICT AND C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT COME FORWARD AND TELL US ABOUT YOUR ZONING REQUEST. YES. THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. AND THANK YOU TO THE REST OF THE ZONING COMMISSIONERS FOR ALLOWING ME TO COME BACK. WE ACTUALLY STARTED THIS CASE WITH YOU JUST AS A LITTLE REMINDER ON FEBRUARY 21ST AND HAVE HAD A FEW CONTINUANCE CONTINUANCES SINCE THEN. SO I WILL NOT BORE EVERYBODY WITH SOME OF MY EARLIER DETAILS. JUST, UH, I'LL RECAP SLIGHTLY. UH, SO I HAVE, UM, LIVED AT THE PROPERTY AT ONE 17 WEST WOODLAWN AND HELD THAT PROPERTY, UM, FOR ALMOST 23 YEARS. SO I HAVE BEEN PART OF THE MONTE VISTA HISTORIC ASSOCIATION, A K A, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. AND, UM, MY REASON FOR ASKING FOR THIS ZONING CHANGE FROM R FOUR TO R FOUR C D, MY HUSBAND [00:35:01] AND I, UM, WELL, IN 2019 I MOVED OUT OF STATE TO GREENVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA WHILE MY HUSBAND, UM, WORKED AT FURMAN UNIVERSITY AND HE'S GOING TO BE RETIRING IN ONE AT THE VERY MOST TWO YEARS. AND HE'S PROMISED ME OF THAT 'CAUSE I'VE ALREADY RETIRED. AND WE, OUR PLAN IS TO MOVE BACK INTO MONTE VISTA TO OUR HOME THERE AT ONE 17 WEST WOODLAWN. AND, UM, ENJOY ALL THE AMENITIES AND LOVELINESS OF MONTE VISTA. SO THAT'S, THAT'S OUR GOAL. BUT THE SHORT TERM GOAL IS WE WANT, WE WANTED TO FIND A WAY TO, UM, NOT BE OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITH THE ORDINANCE THAT, UM, REL UH, RELATES TO THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS. UM, WHEREBY I'VE HAD A TENANT IN THEIR CURRENT, A CURRENT TENANT FOR SEVEN YEARS THAT WORKS JUST DOWN THE BLOCK AT KEYSTONE ACADEMY, A TEACHER AND, UM, SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO DISPLACE HER AND CAN KEEP, KEEP THAT GOING. SO, UM, WHAT I WANNA, UM, I DIDN'T MAKE MUCH OF A POINT IN FEBRUARY OF THE FACT AND, UM, MY CASE MANAGER CAMERON JUST SAID IT, BUT I WANNA, UM, IMPRESS UPON YOU THE NATURE AND WHAT, WHAT MY 100 BLOCK OF WEST WOODLAWN AND JUST THAT 200 FOOT RADIUS LOOKS LIKE. SO IF YOU CAN PICTURE MY HOME THAT YOU JUST SAW, UH, TO THE LEFT OF ME, I HAVE A MULTI-FAMILY HOME THAT USED TO BE R FOUR AND IN 2019 WAS VOTED ON AND CHANGED TO R FOUR CD. SO IT'S CURRENTLY R FOUR CD RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THE WEST. UM, THE BLOCK BEHIND ME ALSO HAS A PROPERTY THAT WAS CHANGED TO R FOUR CD ALSO IN 2019. AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT MY RESEARCH, MY RESEARCH SHOWED AND IT WAS BACKED UP BY WHAT STAFF HAD FOUND. UM, TO THE IMMEDIATE EAST OF MY PROPERTY IS A LAW FIRM THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR MANY, MANY GENERATIONS, SINKING LAW FIRM. AND THEN BEHIND ME, UM, THE NEWEST OF ALL THE BUSINESSES HAVE BEEN DIRECTLY BEHIND MY PROPERTY LINE. UM, A HOUSING, MERCED HOUSING THAT I BELIEVE HELPS PEOPLE FIND AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SO I'M LITERALLY AND ACROSS THE STREET, THE BACK PARKING LOT OF LA FONDA. SO I'M LITERALLY SURROUNDED BY COMMERCIAL, UM, PROPERTIES, UH, THAT ARE THRIVING AND, UM, I DON'T THINK CHANGING, UM, MY REZONING MY PROPERTY FROM R FOUR TO R FOUR CD SO THAT WE'LL, UM, STAY IN WITH, WE WON'T BE IN A, HAVING A CODE VIOLATION OR EXCUSE ME, A VIOLATION OF THE ORDINANCE THAT THIS IS THE, UM, MOST WORKABLE SOLUTION. I DID ASK THE CITY AS WELL AS DISTRICT ONE, UM, PERSONNEL IF THEY COULD HELP ME FIGURE OUT ANY OTHER SOLUTIONS TO THIS MATTER. UM, 'CAUSE AT FIRST I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW I COULD, HAD THE ABILITY TO REQUEST OR APPLY FOR R FOUR. I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT CD WHAT CONDITIONAL YOU. I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT. SO I'VE LEARNED A LOT FROM EVERYONE IN THIS PROCESS. SO I'M JUST ASKING YOU TO KEEP AN OPEN MIND. I KNOW MY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSING IT. I, I HAD ASKED TO BE PART OF A MEETING WITH THEM AND THEY DIDN'T WANT ME TO BE INVOLVED IN THE MEETING, BUT AT LEAST I DID GET, UM, NOTES I WOULD SAY FROM SOME OF THE STAKEHOLDERS THAT WERE IN, IN THAT MEETING A FEW WEEKS AGO. AND I APPRECIATE THAT IT HELPED A LOT. UH, SO I JUST ASK YOU TO KEEP AN OPEN MIND WHEN YOU GET READY TO VOTE HERE SHORTLY. UM, I'M NOT A BIG DEVELOPER, JUST A HOMEOWNER WITH A HUSBAND THAT WANTS TO TRY TO STAY IN MONTE VISTA. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR CONSIDERATION. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? YES WE DO. WE HAVE, UM, A MR, I BELIEVE IT'S TONY OR IT COULD BE TORI. I APOLOGIZE. UH, TONY GARCIA IS HERE TO SPEAK. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS TONY GARCIA. I LIVE AT 2 43 E SATCH IN THE MONTE VISTA HISTORIC DISTRICT. I'M CHAIR OF THE ZONING AND CO COMPLIANCE COMMITTEE AND SPEAK SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE MONTE VISTA HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION. THE ASSOCIATION OPPOSES THE REZONING APPLICATION FOR ONE 17 WEST WOODLAWN FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS. THE CITY'S UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE FOR ACCESSORY DWELLING STATEMENT OF PURPOSE STATES THAT ACCESSORY DWELLINGS HAVE BECOME AN IMPORTANT METHOD TO PERMIT FAMILIES TO REMAIN IN THEIR HOMES BY OCCURRING RENTAL INCOME. THIS PROPERTY IS NOT FAMILY OWNER OCCUPIED AND IS CONTRARY TO THE OVERALL PURPOSE OF THE CODE. THE ACCESSORY DWELLING CODES SPECIFICALLY STATES THAT PROPERTY OWNERS MUST OCCUPY EITHER THE PRINCIPAL UNIT OR THE ACCESSORY [00:40:01] DWELLING UNIT AS THEIR PERMANENT RESIDENCE. AS STATED BELOW, THIS PROPERTY IS NON-OWNER OCCUPIED AND DOES NOT MEET THE CURRENT CODE. THE CI CITY'S CRITERIA FOR REVIEW CONFLICTS WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AND THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN KNOWN AS SHIP. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN LAND USE GOAL IS TO CONTINUE TO ENCOURAGE THE USE OF STRUCTURES AS SINGLE FAMILY OWNER OCCUPIED RESIDENTS. SHIP'S GOAL IS TO INCREASE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PRODUCTION, REHABILITATION AND PRESERVATION BY RELAXING THE RULES ON OWNER-OCCUPIED ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS. THIS REZONING REQUEST CONTRADICTS SHIP IN ITS CONCEPT OF AGING IN PLACE. FINALLY, THE PRINCIPLE STRUCTURE IS A TYPE TWO SHORT-TERM RENTAL AND THE A D U IS A LONG-TERM RENTAL. IN 2022, THE US SHORT-TERM RENTAL MARKET EARNED OVER $62 BILLION IN REVENUES. LET'S BE CLEAR, ONE 17 WEST WOODLAND IS A BUSINESS OPERATION AND WE SHOULD BE VERY, WE SHOULD BE AWARE THAT ANY ZONING CHANGE AND POSSIBLE CHANGE IN PROPERTY OWNERSHIP COULD FURTHER IMPACT THE RESIDENTIAL NATURE OF THIS BLOCK. THE REZONING CREATES TWO SEPARATE UNITS ON ONE LOT UNDER CURRENT AND FUTURE MARKET CONDITIONS. THIS PROPERTY COULD BE USED WITH NO INTEREST IN PRESERVING THE LONG-TERM GOALS OF THE A D U SHIP IN THE MONTE VISTA HISTORIC DISTRICT IN ITS RESIDENCE. WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THE COMMISSION TO DENY THE APPLICATION. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. DID WE HAVE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? NO, THERE IS NOT. ALRIGHT. THE APPLICANT IS ABLE TO GIVE A SHORT REBUTTAL. MR. GARCIA, THANK YOU FOR, UM, THE STATE, YOUR, YOUR, JUST YOUR PREVIOUS STATEMENT AND I APPRECIATE, UM, HELPING INFORM ALL OF US ON THE INTENT AND UNDERSTANDING FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. UH, MY, OUR INTENT HAS NEVER BEEN, UH, TO HAVE A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS AND I GUESS IF YOU CALL, UM, HAVING YOUR HOME, UM, PART OF YOUR HOME AS A RENTAL PROPERTY IN GENERAL, WHETHER THAT'S A TRADITIONAL LONG-TERM LEASE OR A SHORT-TERM RENTAL AS A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. I GUESS IF THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THEN THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE NOT JUST IN MONTE VISTA THAT HAVE RENTAL PROPERTIES IN GENERAL. SO AGAIN, UM, I'VE BEEN OPEN AND STILL AM OPEN TO OTHER SOLUTIONS. UM, BECAUSE AGAIN, WE, YES, WE'RE LIVING, UM, OUT OF STATE RIGHT NOW, BUT WE ARE COMING BACK TO OUR HOME AND WE ARE PLANNING TO AGE IN PLACE. JUST AS YOU'RE MENTIONING. THAT IS OUR GOAL. AND WE, I AM A RULE FOLLOWER AND I DON'T WANT TO KEEP, I DON'T WANNA BE OUT, YOU KNOW, GET A CODE VIOLATION. THE, THE SHORT TERM RENTAL THAT I'VE BEEN OPERATING FOR THREE YEARS IN OUR MAIN HOME, THE PRIMARY GOAL IS JUST TO BE ABLE TO PAY OUR PROPERTY TAXES TO BE QUITE HONEST AND IT PAYS A PART OF THEM, BUT NOT EVEN ALL OF THEM. SO I GUESS I MUST HAVE A BUSINESS THAT'S NOT THRIVING IF I CAN'T EVEN PAY ALL THE PROPERTY TAXES. BUT THAT'S, UM, THAT'S AN ASIDE TO THE WHOLE THING. UM, AGAIN, IF THERE'S OTHER SOLUTIONS THAT THE CI THE COMMISSION, THE CITY, ANYONE ELSE CAN PROVIDE, BUT WE'RE REALLY NOT WHERE WE'RE LOCATED IN, IN THAT UNIQUE BLOCK AND THAT UNIQUE AREA OF MONTE VISTA IS A WHOLE LOT OF COMMERCIAL AND WE'RE, WE'RE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME THAT'S MIXED IN. UM, AS FAR AS THE SHORT TERM RENTAL THAT I'VE HAD NOW THAT WE'VE HAD FOR THREE YEARS, UM, WE'VE HAD UM, 101 OUT OF 105, FIVE STAR REVIEWS. UM, AND I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY CODE VIOLATIONS FOR ANYTHING THAT ANY FAMILIES OR PEOPLE THAT WERE STAYING THERE. AND WE ARE VERY CAREFUL IN, IN TERMS OF VETTING, UM, FOLKS FOR OUR HISTORIC HOME IN THAT I HAVE MY PROPERTY MANAGER THAT LIVES JUST A BLOCK AND A HALF AWAY. HE COMES AND GREETS THE GUESTS AND EVERY SINGLE TIME WE DON'T KEEP A LOCKBOX. IN OTHER WORDS, UM, HE'S, HE COMES OVER AND DOES THAT. SO I WASN'T GONNA DELVE INTO, UM, ALL THE DETAILS ABOUT THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL THAT WE HAVE IN THE MAIN HOUSE, BUT THAT'S, UM, WHY I AM IN THE SITUATION I SUPPOSE THAT I AM BECAUSE WE DO HAVE, HAVE THAT CURRENTLY, WELL IT'S NOT BEEN ON PAUSE SINCE DECEMBER, WHICH IS WHEN UM, THAT WAS WORKED OUT AS THE BEST THING TO DO WHILE I WAS PUTTING THIS APPLICATION IN. SO WE STILL HAVE THAT ON PAUSE. SO THERE'S NOBODY IN LIVING IN THE MAIN HOUSE, BUT I HAVE KEPT MY TENANT THAT I'VE HAD FOR SEVEN YEARS IN THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. [00:45:01] ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. THIS IS A DISTRICT ONE CASE, SO COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS. I JUST HAVE, UM, ONE QUESTION FOR STAFF. CAN YOU GUYS REMIND ME, UM, WHEN THE LARGE AREA REZONING WAS FOR THIS AREA? I BELIEVE, UM, SO THE PROPERTY WAS REZONED BY ORDINANCE 20 20 12 0 3 0 8 6 1 DATED DECEMBER 13TH, 2022. THE CURRENT R FOUR. OKAY, THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT. COMMISSIONER BARDOS, MR. CHAIRMAN, UM, KELLY, I I JUST WANT TO, I WANT TO MAKE SURE I, I HEARD READ THIS RIGHT, THE PROPERTY NEXT TO IT ON 1 1 1 WESTWOOD LAWN IS ALREADY SEW FOR CITY, THE ONE RIGHT NEXT DOOR ACCORDING TO THE, UM, ACCORDING TO THE STAFF, UH, REPORT TO THE WEST, THERE IS AN R FOUR CD THAT IS THREE DWELLING UNITS. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? OKAY. YES. ALRIGHT. OKAY. AND STAFF, SAME QUESTION FOR 1 24 WEST MISTLETOE AVENUE, WHICH IS SORT OF CATTYCORNER BEHIND. IT DOES LOOK LIKE IT'S AN R FOUR CD. IT IS AN R FOUR CD. YOU'LL HAVE TO GIVE US A MOMENT TO SEARCH THAT ONE, BUT, BUT IT, LET ME ASK AN EASIER QUESTION THEN, THEN. THAT'S AT LEAST TWO UNITS, RIGHT? THE CONDITIONAL USE IS FOR MORE THAN TWO UNITS OR TWO UNITS OR MORE. HOW ABOUT THAT IN GENERAL? YES, THAT'S CORRECT, YES. OKAY. AND I JUST GOT THREE FINGERS. 4 0 4 UNITS ON 1 24. OKAY. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BUSMAN. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ONE MORE TOO. ACTUALLY IT'S 1 0 5 WEST WOODLAWN AND I THINK FOR THE APPLICANT. CAN YOU CONFIRM IF NEXT DOOR TO YOU IS THE LAW FIRM? I WAS, I WAS FORGETTING THE ADDRESS NEXT DOOR. I BELIEVE IT IS 'CAUSE IT'S A DOUBLE LOT. 1 0 5 WEST WOODLAWN. AND IT WAS ALWAYS CALLED THE SINKING LAW FIRM. CORRECT? THAT'S HONOR FOUNDED BY THE SINK, THE GENTLEMAN ATTORNEYS HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. THE SINKINGS. AND IT'S NEXT DOOR TO YOUR PROPERTY? THAT IS CORRECT. IT'S IMMEDIATELY TO THE EAST. WE SHARE A FENCE. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NONE LOOKING TO MY RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? NONE. ALL RIGHT. BACK TO YOU COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE FOR MOTION. OKAY, AS I ALWAYS SAY WITH THESE, UH, CASES THAT END UP ON INDIVIDUAL, THIS IS A REALLY HARD CASE. UM, I UNDERSTAND THE PROPERTY OWNER'S PREDICAMENT AND I UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE ARGUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE. UM, BUT I WILL BE MAKING A MOTION FOR DENIAL FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO. AND I'VE, UH, WRITTEN DOWN MY COMMENTS EVEN THOUGH I'M NOT QUITE AS ORGANIZED AS COMMISSIONER SIPES WHEN I DO THIS. SO, UM, UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE APPLICANT IS CURRENTLY PLANNING TO RETURN TO SAN ANTONIO. UM, BUT I FEEL LIKE THIS IS ASKING THE ZONING COMMISSION TO MAKE A DECISION THAT'S BASED ON, ON THAT. AND UM, THAT STARTS US DOWN A PRECARIOUS PATH AS ZONING COMMISSION. WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE LOOKING AT LAND USE PRINCIPLES AND FACTORS THAT ARE SET FORTH IN THE U D C NOT BASING OUR CONSIDERATION IN A PARTICULAR APPLICANT BECAUSE WHILE OWNERSHIP CAN CHANGE, ZONING DOES NOT, AND THIS USE WILL BE IN PERPETUITY. AND I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS BLOCK AND KIND OF WHAT'S GOING ON THERE. AND SOME OF THE, THE USES AND, AND I'LL GET INTO THAT IN A MOMENT, BUT, UM, ONE OF THE REASONS THAT I DO FIND THIS PARTICULAR CASE DIFFICULT IS THAT I GENERALLY SUPPORT INCREMENTAL DENSIFICATION AS A WAY TO INCREASE OUR HOUSING STOCK AND OUR SUPPLY WITHOUT MUCH DISRUPTION TO A NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THIS CASE AT FIRST GLANCE SEEMS TO DO SO BECAUSE OF ALLOWING THE USE FOR TWO UNITS. HOWEVER, I HAVE A COUPLE OF FACTORS THAT REALLY CONCERN ME HERE. NUMBER ONE, WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY CREATING HOUSING THIS UNIT ALREADY. THESE UNITS ALREADY EXIST. COMMISSIONER, I'M SORRY, CAN YOU GET A LITTLE CLOSER? WE'RE HAVING SOME OF THE, UM, CITIZENS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT ARE EXPRESSING CONCERNS AND NOT BEING ABLE TO HEAR YOU. OKAY. IS THAT BETTER FOR THE FOLKS THAT ARE HAVING CONCERNS? OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, SO THE FACTORS THAT CONCERN ME HERE IS THAT WE'RE NOT CREATING HOUSING. THESE TWO UNITS ALREADY EXIST. UM, ANOTHER ISSUE I HAVE HERE IS THE COMMODITIZATION OF HOUSING THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY EXPERIENCING AT A RECORD RATE, ESPECIALLY HERE IN TEXAS. NUMBER THREE, THE FACT THAT THIS BLOCK IS, UM, A MIXED BLOCK. THERE IS MIXED USE, BUT THERE IS A CONCERN TO MAINTAIN THOSE MIXED BLOCKS AND NOT TO EXPERIENCE CREEP OF COMMERCIAL OR, UM, OF MULTIFAMILY USE. AND THAT WAS ADDRESSED [00:50:01] THROUGH THE LARGE AREA REZONING JUST A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. UM, COMING BACK TO MY FIRST POINT ABOUT NOT CREATING HOUSING, THESE UNITS ALREADY EXIST AND IF IT WAS OWNER OCCUPIED, THEY WOULD BOTH BE USABLE. THE OWNER OCCUPATION REQUIREMENT HAS BEEN SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING ON PROPERTIES FOR QUITE SOME TIME, ESPECIALLY IN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING INDUSTRY, WHICH I WORK IN, UM, THIS LAST YEAR. WE ALSO DISCUSSED IT HERE AT THE ZONING COMMISSION JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO. IF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS WILL REMEMBER THAT, UM, WHEN THE A D U AMENDMENT WAS CONSIDERED BY THIS COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL LAST YEAR, ONE OF THE BIGGEST TOPICS THAT WE DISCUSSED, ESPECIALLY WITH TIER ONE AND OTHER FOLKS WHO WERE HOUSING ADVOCATES THAT WERE UM, NOT IN SUPPORT OF THE A D U AMENDMENT, WAS THE FACT THAT ADUS WOULD BE BUILT, HOMES WOULD THEN BE SOLD TO INVESTORS, AND THEN THE A D U MAIN UNIT, UM, WOULD BE OCCUPIED, UH, WOULD NOT BE OWNER OCCUPIED AND POTENTIALLY USED FOR AN SS T R. WE PASSED THE A D U AMENDMENT WITH THE ASSURANCE THAT THAT WOULD NOT BE THE CASE. INSTEAD, WHAT WE HAVE NOW IS A RELEASE VALVE FOR THAT REQUIREMENT WITH STAFF RECOMMENDING TWO UNITS TO ACCOMMODATE THE USE OF THE ONE UNIT AS A TYPE TWO S T R, WHICH WAS NOT THE GOAL OF THE A D AMENDMENTS AND IS ALSO NOT THE GOAL OF THE SHIP. THIS IS NOT CREATING OR FACILITATING HOUSING TO ADDRESS THE NEARLY 100,100,000 FAMILIES IN BEXAR COUNTY WHO COULD NOT FIND AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 45% OF THOSE FAMILIES ARE HOMEOWNERS AND NOT RENTERS. SO WE'RE PULLING, IN THIS CASE POTENTIALLY ADDITIONAL HOUSING STOCK TO AN S T R OR ALTERNATIVELY, IF THE APPLICANT DOES NOT DECIDE TO COME BACK OR IS UNABLE TO COME BACK FOR SOME OTHER REASON, WE'RE MAKING A PROPERTY MORE APPEALING TO INVESTORS. THIS DOES NOT HELP WITH THE DEARTH OF LONG-TERM HOUSING OPTIONS THAT OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS. IF WE APPROVE A CD HERE BASED ON THE FACT THAT IT'S A TEMPORARY SITUATION, NEXT TIME WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO'S MAYBE NOT AS HONEST AS MS. KEENER SAYING THE SAME THING. SO WE APPROVE THAT BASED ON THE SAME IDEA. THIS IS A TEMPORARY SITUATION OR IT'S JUST ONE, IT'S JUST ONE PROPERTY, IT'S JUST TWO UNITS. UM, THEN THAT HOUSE IS GONNA GOING, THAT HOUSE COULD BE SOLD TO AN INVESTOR. THE PROPERTY'S MUCH MORE VALUABLE IN THAT CASE, ESPECIALLY WITH ONE S T R AS A GOING CONCERN. UM, LAST YEAR, UM, 32 HOUSES IN MONTE VISTA WERE SOLD TO LLCS, UM, AND BECAME STR THAT'S 2% OF OUR TOTAL HOUSING IN MONTE VISTA. AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO REMIND THE COMMISSIONERS THAT 46% OF SINGLE FAMILY HOME SALES IN BEXAR COUNTY LAST YEAR'S WENT TO INVESTORS. THIS IS A HUGE CONCERN FOR US AS A COMMUNITY GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE ARE IN AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS. THIS ONE HOUSE MAY JUST BE ONE HOUSE, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS SWEEPING OUR COMMUNITY AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO BE VERY VIGILANT. AND AGAIN, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS CASE IS A CASE WHERE WE'RE BEING ASKED TO INSTITUTE A PERMANENT CHANGE WITH REAL CONSEQUENCES THAT'S NOT SUPPORTIVE OF OUR CITY GOALS TO ADDRESS THE HOUSING CRISIS IN ORDER TO RESOLVE JUST WHAT IS A TEMPORARY ISSUE. UM, SO THOSE ARE MY REASONS AND, AND I'LL SHUT UP NOW. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. UM, SO THE MOTION IS FOR DENIAL. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL RIGHT. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON. UM, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT. NONE. COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT. COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE THAT THIS IS A CLOSE CASE. UM, AND I THINK I AGREE WITH THREE OF THE ISSUES SHE RAISES. ONE IS WE JUST DID GO THROUGH THE U D C AMENDMENT PROCESS AND WE SHOULD NOT TAKE ANY ACTION IN CONTRAVENTION OF THOSE CHANGES LIGHTLY. UH, TWO, AS WE ALL KNOW AND WE REPEAT AS A MANTRA. UH, ZONING CHANGES ARE PERMANENT, THEY RUN WITH THE LAND. AND THREE, I DO SHARE A GREAT CONCERN REGARDING INVESTOR PURCHASES OF OUR HOUSING STOCK. HOWEVER, IN THIS CASE, WE HAVE A BLOCK OF NINE UNITS AT THIS TIME, ONLY TWO ARE R FOUR, 22% ARE MF 33, UH, 30 OR 22% ARE R M FOUR OR R FOUR CD. AND THEN A THIRD ARE COMMERCIAL OR OFFICE USES. I THINK THE APPLICANT IN THIS CASE COULD HAVE GONE WITH AN RMM FOUR, WHICH WOULD'VE OPENED UP FOR TWO, THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT DWELLING UNITS ON THIS PROPERTY. SHE DID NOT DO. SO SHE SOUGHT OUT AND THE STAFF [00:55:02] FOUND IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL FOR AN R FOUR CD TO ALLOW THESE TWO UNITS. AND FOR THAT REASON, I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTIVE OF THE MOTION FOR DENIAL. I THINK THE APPLICANT DID WHAT'S RIGHT HERE. I THINK EVEN WITH A HEIGHTENED BURDEN, SHE HAS MET THAT BURDEN. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? COMMISSIONER WATSON? UM, THIS WAS A VERY DIFFICULT CASE FOR ME FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS. UM, BUT I THINK COMMISSIONER GREENHOUSE'S ARGUMENTS ABOUT, UH, THE LONG-TERM IMPACT ARE COMPELLING. UM, I HAVE SEEN IN MY OWN DISTRICT, WHICH IS ALSO AN URBAN CORE DISTRICT THAT STRUGGLES WITH THE ENCROACHMENT OF COMMERCIAL AS WELL AS A FREQUENT LOSS OF HOUSING UNITS, UH, THROUGH UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES, UM, THAT ARE ELIMINATING RENTAL UNITS THAT ARE AFFORDABLE WITHOUT SUBSIDIZATION, UM, AS WELL AS ACCESSIBLE HOME OWNERSHIP TO YOUNG PROFESSIONALS, WORKING CLASS FAMILIES, TRYING TO STAY IN THE URBAN CORE AND INVEST IN THE CITY. UM, THIS RELEASE VALVE THAT IS CREATED WHEN WE DO CDS, UM, AS MUCH AS YOU KNOW, I I FEEL FOR THE HOMEOWNER IN THIS CASE AND UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL COMPLIANCE BURDENS PLACED BY PASSING THE A D U AMENDMENT AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT GOT PASSED IN THE U D C. IT CREATES AN OPPORTUNITY AS THESE CASES CONTINUE TO COME FORWARD WITH LESS, UH, COMMITTED APPLICANTS THAN MS. KEENER, UM, TO CONTINUE TO MAKE AN ARGUMENT FOR A PRECEDENT THAT'S BEEN SET, UM, THAT CREATES A PATTERN THAT HAS TREMENDOUS IMPACT. AND WHILE I AM REALLY, REALLY STRUGGLING EMOTIONALLY WITH THIS CASE ON BEHALF OF THE HOMEOWNER, I JUST HAVE SEEN IT TOO MANY TIMES, UM, IN IN DISTRICT ONE AND IN DISTRICT TWO, UM, THAT THIS CREATES AN OPPORTUNITY THAT IS OFTEN EXPLOITED THAT NEGATIVELY IMPACTS, UM, THE STABILITY OF THE HOUSING MARKET AND OUR CITIZENS THAT LIVE HERE, UM, FOR THE LONG TERM. SO THAT IS WHY I SECONDED THIS MOTION AND WILL BE SUPPORTING. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. SO THE MOTION IS FOR DENIAL BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. THE SECOND WAS BY COMMISSIONER WATSON. IF WE COULD GET A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER FUENTES. AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? NO. COMMISSIONER BARROS? NO. COMMISSIONER LU HOLLAND? NO. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE? NO. CHAIR SIPES? YES. ITEM FAILS. ALRIGHT, THE ITEM FAILS. UM, IS THERE A MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION OF THE ITEM? IF NOT, IT WILL COME BACK BEFORE US, CORRECT? IS THAT THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. SO IF THERE'S NO MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION THEN IT'LL COME BACK IN A COUPLE WEEKS. SO, UM, MOTION FOR CONSIDERATION. ANYONE LAST CALL? SORRY. UM, FORGETTING THE RULES A BIT, CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT A MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION IS? BASICALLY TO, UH, HAVE ANOTHER MOTION MADE BY A PERSON WHO VOTED AGAINST THE MOTION. SO IN OTHER WORDS, WE COULD RECONSIDER. AND THEN, UM, ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO, ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS WHO VOTED AGAINST THE DENIAL, WHO VOTED NO COULD THEN MAKE ANOTHER MOTION, PROBABLY WOULD BE FOR APPROVAL AND THEN WE WOULD TAKE ANOTHER ROUND OF VOTES. IF THERE IS NO MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION, THEN IT WILL JUST AUTOMATICALLY COME BACK TO US IN TWO WEEKS. TO CHAIR, CHAIR SIPES. SORRY, I'M MESSING UP . THAT'S QUITE ALL RIGHT. UH, JUST TO PROVIDE SOME CLARIFICATION, IT'S SOMEBODY THAT WAS ON THE LOSING SIDE OF THE VOTE, ESSENTIALLY CAN GO AHEAD AND ASK FOR IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO RECONSIDER IT. IT, IT'S JUST LIKE A NORMAL VOTE, YOU KNOW, IT HAS TO BE VOTED ON AND IF THERE'S ENOUGH SUPPORT FOR IT THEN IT WOULD JUST REOPEN THE ITEM UP TO CONTINUE CONSIDERING IT. THE ONLY PERSON PEOPLE WHO CAN MAKE A MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION ARE THOSE WHO VOTED FOR DENIAL DURING THIS PAST ROUND. CORRECT. OTHERWISE IT JUST GOES ON THE NEXT AGENDA PER THE, PER THE USUAL PROCEDURE. AND WE CAN'T MAKE A VOTE FOR THE OPPOSITE MOTION AT THIS TIME OR WE HAVE TO WAIT TILL THE NEXT MEETING. IF IT IS OPENED UP FOR RECONSIDERATION, THEN YES, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND MAKE AN ALTERNATIVE MOTION TO BE CONSIDERED. ONE, ONE THING TO CONSIDER IS WE NEED SIX VOTES IN AFFIRMATION TO APPROVE ANY MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION OR FOR APPROVAL OR DENIAL LETTER APPROVAL OR DENIAL HAS TO COME AFTER. YES. SO HEARING NOTHING AND CONFUSING EVERYONE , WE WILL SEE YOU AGAIN IN TWO WEEKS. [01:00:05] ALRIGHT. UM, IF WE COULD , I GUESS MOVE ON TO INDIVIDUAL ITEM NUMBER THREE. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. IF WE COULD HAVE STAFF'S PRESENTATION PLEASE. GOOD AFTERNOON. ANN BENAVIDEZ ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER THREE IS LOCATED AT 2 1 4 EAST SLASH CHAPPELLE AND IS A REQUEST TO GO FROM R SIX TO I D Z TWO WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. THERE ARE 29 NOTICES MAILED WITH THREE RETURNED IN FAVOR. ZERO OPPOSED AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM LONE STAR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF STAFF, DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. HOWEVER, THE PROPOSED HEIGHT OF FOUR STORIES IS OUT OF CHARACTER WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN. THE CURRENT R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. THE REQUEST FOR I D Z TWO MEDIUM INFILL, MEDIUM INTENSITY INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE DISTRICT WITH IS PERMITTED FOR ONE DWELLING UNIT, PROPOSES APPROPRIATE USES, BUT THE DEVELOPMENT COULD BE ACHIEVED IN THE I D Z ONE BAY ZONING DISTRICT. THE PROPERTY IS IN AN ESTABLISHED SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD COMPRISED OF SINGLE STORY AND DOUBLE STORY STRUCTURES WHILE THERE IS I D Z TWO ZONING FOUND IN PROXIMITY TO THE SUBJECT SITE. THAT DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT ABUT SINGLE FAMILY LAND USE AND IS ONLY THREE STORIES HIGH AT ITS TALLEST POINT. STAFF SUPPORTS THE RESIDENTIAL INFILL BUT RECOMMENDS I D Z ONE LIMITED INTENSITY INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE DISTRICT FOR ONE DWELLING UNIT AND A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF TWO AND A HALF AND 35, 2 AND A HALF STORIES AND 35 FEET. GIVEN THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN, STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL WITH AN ALTERNATE FOR ID Z ONE FOR ONE DWELLING UNIT. THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO PRE THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND I UNDERSTAND HE'S PRESENTING AN AMENDED SITE PLAN. ALL RIGHT, IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE. HI. GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSION. UM, SO LAST WE SPOKE, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT THE SIZE. SORRY. IF YOU COULD JUST INTER, AND I SHOULD HAVE SAID THIS WHILE YOU WERE WALKING UP, IF YOU COULD JUST INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND GIVE US THE ADDRESS. YEAH, MY NAME IS JAG SANTA. I'M PROPERTY OWNER AT 2 1 4 EAST LA CHAPELLE, SANTO, TEXAS 7 8 2 0 4. UM, FROM OUR LAST MEETING, UH, TO THIS CONTINUANCE WE HAD DISCUSSED THE, THE SIZE OF THIS LOT AND THE DIFFICULTY OF THE BUILD BEING ONLY 30 FEET WIDE, WHICH LIMITS THE HOME TO ONLY 20 FEET WIDE. ORIGINALLY I'D ASKED, UM, FOR IDZ TWO A FOUR STORY TO BUILD A SIZABLE HOUSE, UM, THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE FIRST FLOOR TO BE MAJORITY PARKING. UH, AFTER DISCUSSING WITH, UH, AND, AND, UH, COMMISSIONER OF, UH, OF DISTRICT FIVE, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO REVISE IT TO A THREE STORY, UM, AT THE, UH, SETBACKS ALLOWED FOR THAT ZONING. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UM, DID WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE. ALRIGHT, THANK THIS IS YOUR CASE. SORRY. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. UM, STAFF, WHAT IS THE, WHAT ARE THE SETBACKS? SIDE? SETBACKS FOR R SIX FIVE FEET. OKAY. UM, AND THE REASON I ASK IS 'CAUSE WE DID RECEIVE ONE COMMENT REGARDING THREE FOOT SETBACKS, BUT IN THIS CASE THE I D Z WOULD ALLOW FOR A LESSER SETBACK, BUT IT'S IDENTICAL WITH A FIVE FOOT. YES. UH, FIVE FOOT AROUND THE SIDES AND REAR. OKAY. VERY GOOD. I THINK THAT'S MY ONLY QUESTION. ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OTHER COMMISSIONERS? LOOKING LEFT, SEEING NONE. QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT? NONE. ALRIGHT, BACK TO YOU COMMISSIONER BUSMAN. ALRIGHT, UM, I'M GOING TO MOVE FOR APPROVAL WITH A SITE PLAN AS AMENDED. UH, THE REASON IS IS BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THE I D Z ONE WOULD PROVIDE FOR A TWO AND A HALF STORY MAXIMUM HEIGHT IN THIS CASE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S ABUTTING SOME ORIGINAL HOUSING ON EAST LA CHAPPELLE. UH, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THREE STORY BUILDINGS ALREADY GOING UP AS STAFF SAID, UM, THIS WOULD BE IN KEEPING WITH THAT. SO I MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER THREE AS AMENDED. THAT WAS THAT YOU COMMISSIONER BARTOS? YES. OKAY. SORRY. . OKAY. MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL WITH THE AMENDED SITE PLAN BY COMMISSIONER BUS MONTE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARTOS. UH, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT. SEEING NONE COMMERS ON MY RIGHT. SEEING NONE. MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE AYE. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER [01:05:01] WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER FUENTES. AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER LUGIA HOLLAND? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. CHAIR S SIPES? YES. ITEM PASSES AS AMENDED. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. IF WE COULD MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR PLEASE. AND BENAVIDEZ ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS LOCATED AT 1 2 2 ANNIE STREET AND IS A REQUEST TO GO FROM R FOUR TO I D Z TWO WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. THERE WERE 20 NOTICES MAILED WITH TWO RETURN IN FAVOR. THREE. IN OPPOSITION MONTE VISTA TERRACE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS NEUTRAL AND OUTSIDE 200 FEET, THERE ARE THREE IN OPPOSITION. STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. THE CURRENT R FOUR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THIS PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPOSED IDZ TWO MEDIUM INTENSITY INFIELD DEVELOPMENT ZONE DISTRICT IS ALSO APPROPRIATE. WHILE THE PROPERTY IS PART OF A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, IT SHARES A BLOCK WITH PROPERTIES THAT ACCOMMODATE MULTIFAMILY COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE USES AS WELL AS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES. THE SIZE OF THE LOT IS CONSISTENT WITH SURROUNDING LOTS THAT ACCOMMODATE MULTI-FAMILY USES AND THE LOT IS PLACED AT THE CORNER OF TWO LOCAL STREETS, WHICH IS AN IDEAL PLACEMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL DENSITY. I D Z TWO AS A BAY ZONING DISTRICT ALSO REQUIRES A SITE PLAN WHICH WILL HOLD THE APPLICANT TO THE PROPOSED DENSITY AND LAYOUT. ADDITIONALLY, THE PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL INFILL ALIGNS WITH THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, WHICH PROMOTES NEIGHBORHOODS AND ENCOURAGES DIVERSIFIED HOUSING TYPES TO MEET THE GROWING HOUSING NEEDS OF THE CITY STAFF FOR WOMEN'S APPROVAL. AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. IF WE COULD HAVE THAT APPLICANT PLEASE. GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. EMILY WEISLER WITH KILLING GRIFFIN AND FAIRMAN 1 0 1 0 1 REUNION. PLACE WE TO 50, UM, HERE ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER, UM, THERE'S A PRESENTATION AND UH, AND I WILL BE BRIEF AND I WILL START WITH THE FACT THAT WE ARE, UM, REQUESTING WE'RE ISSUING AN AMENDMENT TO THIS REQUEST. SO OUR CURRENT ZONING REQUEST IS FOR I D Z TWO, UM, WITH THE USES PERMITTED IN FOUR DWELLING UNITS FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS. UM, AND BASED ON OUR DISCUSSION WITH THE COMMUNITY, THE COUNCIL OFFICE, UM, AND ALL STAKEHOLDERS YESTERDAY AND TODAY, WE'D LIKE TO AMEND THAT REQUEST TO ONLY THREE RESIDENTIAL UNITS ON THE PROPERTY. CAN I, CAN I CLICK OR NO? I'LL JUST, THANK YOU. SORRY ABOUT THAT. I DON'T THINK THIS WORKS. UM, SO THE PROPERTY IS JUST OVER TWO TENTHS OF AN ACRE. WE ARE, UM, AND IT'S AN INTERESTING PART OF MONTE VISTA TERRACE. UM, WE ARE EAST OF MCCULLOUGH, NORTH OF HILDEBRAND, UM, FRONTING ON ANNIE STREET. WE ALSO HAVE FRONTAGE ON JETSON, UM, TO OUR NORTHWEST CORNER IS PANCHITO'S. UM, IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THAT. UM, THERE IS, YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. THIS ONE. THANK YOU. THERE ARE A HANDFUL OF DIFFERENT USES AND DENSITIES IN THIS AREA. UM, THERE IS, SORRY, I'M GONNA TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO USE, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WORKS. UM, SO THIS, IN THIS TOP RIGHT CORNER, THIS IS WHERE 1 22 ANNIE STREET IS. WE HAVE, UM, NEW APARTMENTS. WE HAVE VERY LARGE CONDOMINIUM TOWN HOMES, UM, COMMERCIAL USES, AGAIN JUST EAST OF MCCULLOUGH. UM, SO THERE IS A WIDE VARIETY OF, OF DENSITY, UH, AND, AND USES ON THIS PROPERTY. UM, NEXT SLIDE. THANK YOU. SO WE DID GO BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION TWO WEEKS AGO. UM, THE CURRENT, THE CURRENT DESIGNATION IS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, UM, AND, UH, STAFF AND PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF A MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. UM, THAT SHOULD NOT CHANGE WITH OUR, WITH OUR REQUESTED REDUCTION TO UNIT SIZE. UM, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, I THINK THIS PLAN DESIGNATION IS REALLY A GOOD VISUAL OF THE VARIETY OF DENSITY AND USES THAT ARE GOING ON. IN THIS SECTION OF MONTE VISTA TERRACE, UM, BETWEEN HILDEBRAND AND MCCULLOUGH. SO AGAIN, OUR REQUEST IS FOR I D Z TWO AS AMENDED WITH USES PERMITTED IN THREE UNITS. UM, THIS AMENDMENT CAME ABOUT RATHER QUICKLY. UM, AND SO WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF AMENDING THAT SITE PLAN AND WE'LL BE BRINGING THAT BACK, UM, WITH THE COMMUNITY TO WORK OUT, UM, WHAT THAT AMENDED SITE PLAN IS. UM, BUT I THINK THAT THERE IS, UH, PROGRESSIVE SUPPORT FOR THREE UNITS RATHER THAN THE REQUESTED FOUR. UM, AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? [01:10:04] ITEM FOUR. UH, WE DO HAVE VOICEMAILS TO BE PLAYED. THIS IS ZO CASE Z 2 0 2 3 1 0 7 0 0 0 3 2. I AM READING THE FOLLOWING LETTER AT THE REQUEST OF ESTEBAN AND ELIA MARTINEZ, WHO RESIDE AT 2 0 2. ANNIE, MY WIFE AND I HAVE LIVED IN OUR HOME AT 2 0 2 ANNIE STREET FOR 47 YEARS. WE RAISED OUR CHILDREN IN THIS HOUSE. WE HAVE ALWAYS ENJOYED OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND OUR NEIGHBORS. EVERYBODY HELPS EACH OTHER MORE AND MORE. WE ARE SEEING RENTAL PROPERTIES POP UP. MOST OF THE RENTERS STAY AS SHORT WHILE THEN MOVE ON. SO YOU REALLY DO NOT. MY WIFE AND I WENT TO THE MEETINGS. LISTEN TO WHAT THE OWNER AND ARCHITECT HAS TO SAY ABOUT HOW ONE TO TURN. 1 22 ANN STREET INTO FOUR RENTAL HOMES. SOME WILL BE 35 FEET TALL, PROPOSED TO THE OWNER AND ARCHITECT'S. IDEAS. FOUR HOMES ON A SMALL LOT IS DISRESPECTFUL TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT IS WITHOUT A DOUBT. THEY'RE LOOKING AT HOW MUCH MONEY THEY CAN POCKET RATHER THAN THE QUALITY OF LIFE THEY CAN CREATE FOR PEOPLE. THERE WILL MOSTLY, THERE WILL MOST LIKELY BE CHILDREN IN THESE RENTAL HOMES. WHERE WILL THEY PLAY? THEY HAVE A VERY SMALL PLAY AREA IN THEIR PLANS, BUT IF PEOPLE HAVE DOGS, WILL THE DOGS STAY IN THE SAME AREA WITH THE CHILDREN? NOT A GOOD IDEA. NEITHER IS A STREET. JUSTIN IS A VERY NARROW STREET WITH NO CURBS. THERE ARE MANY POTOS RESTAURANT PATRONS THAT PARK ON ANNIE AND JUDSON STREETS. CARS COME OFF. HIL DEBR TO JUDSON. THEY WHIP AROUND ANNIE TOTOS AND VICE VERSA. MANY PEOPLE TURN OFF MCCULLOUGH ONTO ANNIE, THEN JUDSON TO HILDEBRAND TO THE TRAFFIC LIGHT AT MCCULLOUGH AND VICE VERSA. THIS IS A HIGH CONGESTED CORNER, WHICH NO ONE HAS GIVEN ANY THOUGHT TO UNLESS YOU LIVE ON THIS CORNER LIKE WE DO. THERE WILL BE A TOTAL OF 12 CITY TRASH CANS FOR THE FOUR UNITS. MONDAY IS RECYCLE AND ORGANIC PICKUP DAY, WHICH MEANS THERE COULD BE A EIGHT CITY TRASH CANS ON JUDSON STREET, A NARROW STREET WITH NO CURSE. IF THE RENTERS HAVE EIGHT TO FIVE JOBS, THESE TRASH CANS MAY STAY ON THE STREET ALL DAY. WE ARE DOUBTFUL THE TRASH TRUCKS WILL BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH THE STREETS TO DO THAT JOB. PUBLIC WORKS THE REQUEST FOR CURBS DUE TO . WE HAVE HERE. THE PLANS DO NOT SHOW OTHER FRONT DOORS. THE RENTAL HOMES ARE THE RENTAL HOME GARAGE ENTRANCE IS THROUGH THE ALLEY. IS THIS WHERE THEIR FRONT DOORS WILL BE THROUGH AN UNPAVED DUSTY AND MUDDY ALLEY ENC CLOSING? WE ASK THAT REZONING REQUESTS BE DENIED. THE OVERDEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT TO OUR AREA. THIS IS JAMES WHITE. I LIVE AT 2 26 ANNIE STREET WITH MY WIFE. AND, UH, WE ARE OWNER OCCUPIERS OF THE PROPERTY. 8 2 6 0 9 7 9. CALLING REGARDING CASE NUMBER 20 23 1 0 7 DASH 32. WE'RE OWNER OCCUPANTS OF 2226 ANNIE, AND WE STRONGLY OPPOSE THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS. CURRENTLY, THERE ARE A TOTAL OF 24 RESIDENTIAL UNITS ON ANNIE AND HOLLAND STREETS. 11 ARE OWNER OCCUPIED AND 13 ARE RENTALS. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WOULD ADD THREE ADDITIONAL RENTAL UNITS FOR A TOTAL OF 16, A TOTAL OF 16. THIS JUST SEEMS EXCESSIVE. THE FOUR PROPOSED NEW RENTAL UNITS WILL HAVE TWO UNITS 35 FEET HIGH ON A 75 BY 25 FOOT LOT, WHICH WILL OVERSHADOW THE SURROUNDING SINGLE STORY HOMES. THE ALLEY CLEAR WIDTH OF 16 FEET IS NOT SHOWN IN THE SITE PLAN. HOWEVER, THE WIDTH OF THE ALLEY IS CONSIDERABLY LIMITS THE TURNING THE RADIUS INTO THE PROPOSED SOUTH GARAGES AND CONCRETE APRONS. THE CONCRETE APRONS ARE DRAWN ON THE SITE PLAN TO EXTEND INTO THE ALLEY, WHICH IS CITY PROPERTY. IS THIS ALLOWED? THE ALLEY WILL NEED TO BE PAID FOR VEHICLE ACCESS TO THE TWO UNITS WHO WILL PAY FOR THIS? THE BASE AND PAVING OF THE ALLEY. AND WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE LONG-TERM MAINTENANCE? IN OUR OPINION, AN ALLEY APPROACH TO ANY RESIDENCE IS EXTREMELY UNDESIRABLE AND DEMEANING [01:15:01] TO RESIDENTS AND VISITORS ALIKE. ANOTHER NEGATIVE IMPACT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE EXISTING LARGE HERITAGE TREE NEAR THE NORTHEAST PROPERTY CORNER HAS A MEASURED CANOPY DIAMETER BETWEEN 50 AND 25 FEET. CONSIDERABLY GREATER THAN THE 12 TO 15 FOOT DRAWN ON THE SITE PLAN AND WILL HAVE TO BE CUT BACK SEVERELY TO ACCOMMODATE THE 2 35 FOOT HIGH BUILDINGS. SUCH TRIMMING WILL MOST CERTAINLY DESTROY THE CANOPY OF THE TREE AND POSSIBLY ITS LIFE. THE DEVELOPER'S INTEREST IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WAS EXPRESSED BY THEM IN AN EARLY MEETING. THIS IS KIDS' COLLEGE FUND AND OUR RETIREMENT, OBVIOUSLY THEIR GOAL IS TO MEASURE, MAXIMIZE THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT CAN BE SQUEEZED ONTO THE PROPERTY IN ORDER TO DEVELOP MAXIMUM CASH FLOW WITH NO CONCERN FOR THE NEGATIVE IMPACT IT BRINGS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IN SUMMARY, WE DO NOT WANT ANY MORE RENTAL PROPERTIES IN OUR SMALL TWO BLOCK SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD. PRIDE OF OWNERSHIP HAS BEEN NON-EXISTENT AND THE RENTAL PROPERTIES, UH, THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, WE'RE REQUESTING THE DENIAL OF THE ZONING REQUEST AS IT WILL ADD A MAJOR NEGATIVE IMPACT TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU. HELLO, MY NAME IS SHARON GARCIA AND I LIVE AT 1 3 2 WEST NORWOOD COURT, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 1 2. I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE MONTE VISTA TERRACE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND I AM CALLING REGARDING THE PROPOSED REZONING AT 1 22 ANNIE STREET. UH, CASES 1 0 7 0 0 0 3 2 MEMBERS OF OUR ASSOCIATION HAVE MET WITH THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY ON THREE OCCASIONS REGARDING THEIR PROPOSED REZONING AND DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR 1 22 ANNIE STREET. UM, WE DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT BOTH MR. WILDMAN AND MR. CAVASSO HAVE BEEN WILLING TO WORK WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. AT EACH MEETING. THEY HAVE COME BACK TO OUR ASSOCIATION WITH MODIFICATIONS BASED ON VOICED REQUESTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS FROM AREA RESIDENTS. AFTER A SERIES OF MEETINGS WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS, WE RECEIVED A MIXTURE OF OPINIONS REGARDING THE REZONING AND SUPPORT VERSUS OPPOSITION. FOR THE FINAL PROPOSED SITE PLAN, OUR SOLUTION WAS TO TAKE AN ONLINE POLL AND WE PROMOTED THIS, UH, THROUGH EMAIL DATABASE AND FACEBOOK. IN TOTAL, WE RECEIVED 23 RESPONSES FROM NEIGHBORHOOD PROPERTY OWNERS AND RESIDENTS. A SLIGHT MAJORITY, UH, OF THE RESPONDENTS WOULD CONDITIONALLY SUPPORT THE REZONING REQUEST AND SITE PLAN IF IT WAS SCALED BACK TO ONLY TWO STRUCTURES WITH NO MORE THAN THREE RENTAL UNITS, AS WELL AS A NEIGHBORHOOD CONSENSUS ON SOLUTIONS FOR OFF STREET PARKING AND GREEN SPACE OR PERMEABLE GROUND COVERING AT THIS TIME, BECAUSE WE WERE NOT ABLE TO RE REACH A CONSENSUS A AMONG, AMONG ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD MEMBERS, WE ARE NEUTRAL ON THE CURRENT PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. BUT WE WOULD WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVISIT THE PROPOSED REZONING AND REDEVELOPMENT PLAN IF IT WERE MODIFIED. UM, AS I PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, UH, DOWN TO TWO STRUCTURES WITH NO MORE THAN THREE RENTAL UNITS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THAT IS IT OF THE VOICEMAILS AND THERE IS NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK OR TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. APPLICANT HAS A CHANCE FOR REBUTTAL. IS THAT BETTER? OH WOW. OH, THAT WAS EXCITING. UM, SO THIS SITE PLAN WILL BE CHANGING, UM, AS AGAIN, WE'RE AMENDING FROM THREE UNITS TO FOUR RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE TWO UNITS, FRONTING ANNIE STREET, UM, ONE, I'M SORRY, ONE UNIT FRONTING ANNIE STREET, TWO UNIT, ONE UNIT FRONTING JETSON, AND TWO FRONTING THE ALLEYWAY. SO WE HAVE THREE FRONTAGES HERE, UM, WITH ALLEY ACCESS. UM, THERE IS FULL PARKING. THIS I D Z REQUEST IS NOT TO ALEVE PARKING REQUIREMENTS. UM, BUT WE WILL BE WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY [01:20:01] ON THE LAYOUT OF THOSE THREE UNITS, UM, WHETHER THEY ARE INDIVIDUAL UNITS, UM, OR TWO STRUCTURES, THREE UNITS. UM, BUT THESE ARE ALL TWO AND A HALF STORY. THESE ARE APPROXIMATELY 2200 SQUARE FEET, UM, 10 FOOT SETBACKS WE HAVE. I DID HEAR, UM, QUESTION ABOUT TRASH ENCLOSURES. THAT HAS BEEN AN ONGOING DISCUSSION WITH THE COMMUNITY. UM, AND SO WE HAVE TRASH ENCLOSURES, UM, SET UP ON THE PROPERTY AND THE SITE PLAN THERE. SO, UM, THIS SITE PLAN WILL BE AMENDED, UH, TO REFLECT THE THREE UNITS AND WE'LL BE WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY ON THAT, BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. THIS IS DISTRICT ONE CASE, SO COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS. YES. UM, JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. SO YOU ADDRESSED MY QUESTION ON PARKING. THANK YOU. UM, THE, COULD YOU GUYS JUST, UM, KIND OF OUTLINE, UH, JUST SOME OF THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE WITH THE COMMUNITY WITH RESPECT TO DRAINAGE AND IMPERVIOUS COVER AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU GUYS ARE GONNA BE INCLUDING ON YOUR SITE PLAN GOING FORWARD? YES. SO, UM, YEAH, THAT'S FINE. UM, SO YES, THERE HAS BEEN, UM, THERE IS A MAJOR CITY DRAINAGE PROJECT UNDERWAY. UM, THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION, UM, WITH OUR CLIENT PROPERTY AND OUR DEVELOPER, UM, AND THE COMMUNITY ON TREE PRESERVATION ORIENTATION, PREVIOUS COVER, IMPERVIOUS COVER. UM, AND THE REDUCTION OF THE UNITS WILL INHERENTLY ALSO REDUCE THE CONTINUED SQUARE FOOTAGE, UM, THAT WE ARE PLANNING. WE ALSO HAVE ADDITIONAL CISTERNS ADDED, UM, AND A LOT OF WALKWAYS. UM, PERVIOUS WALKWAYS, UH, SORRY, THIS IS NOT WORKING VERY WELL. PERVIOUS WALKWAYS IMPLEMENTED HERE. UM, JUST, AND, AND AGAIN, THAT WILL REDUCE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF, OF COVERAGE HERE. UM, I DON'T HAVE THAT CALCULATION YET. WE ARE STILL WORKING THAT WITH OUR ARCHITECT. OKAY. AND THEN, UM, A QUESTION FOR STAFF WITH RESPECT TO THE USE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT IMMEDIATELY WEST OF THIS, IT'S AN R FOUR CD ACCORDING TO THE, UM, STAFF REPORT WE HAVE R FOUR FOR RESIDENTIAL, RESIDENTIAL DWELLING, AND THEN C TWO FOR A RESTAURANT. ONE 16. ANNIE PROFESS ONE STOP HAS IT AS CD FOR PROFESSIONAL OFFICE. MM-HMM. , R FOUR CD FOR A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE. OKAY, THANK YOU. AND I DO BELIEVE THAT'S BEING USED BY PANCHITO'S FOR THEIR BUSINESS. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? ANY, NONE. COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT. SEEING NONE. BACK TO YOU. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE FOR A MOTION. OKAY. UM, UNLIKE THE PREVIOUS CASE, UM, THAT IS SIMILAR TO THIS CASE, UM, I WILL BE MAKING A MOTION FOR APPROVAL FOR ITEM NUMBER FOUR. IS THAT THE ITEM THAT WE'RE ON, GUYS? UM, ITEM NUMBER FOUR. AND, UM, JUST TO CREATE A FEW, UM, OR TO OUTLINE A FEW DISTINCTIONS BETWEEN THIS AND THE PRIOR D ONE CASE. HERE WE'RE CREATING HOUSING. UM, WE'VE GOT THE ADDITION OF NOW TWO UNITS. IT, IT WOULD'VE BEEN THREE, BUT, UM, THE, THE DEVELOPER WORKED WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEIR CONCERNS. UM, AND WE'RE STILL SUPPORTING PUBLIC POLICY THROUGH, UM, THROUGH BEING IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE SHIP TO CREATE ADDITIONAL UNITS. UM, ADDITIONALLY IN THIS, UH, CASE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS NOT IN OPPOSITION. UNLIKE THE PREVIOUS CASE, THERE WAS A LOT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND WILLING TO WILLINGNESS TO AMEND THE SITE PLAN, UM, TO DEAL WITH DRAINAGE ISSUES AND OTHER COMMUNITY CONCERNS, INCLUDING PARKING AND PRESERVATION OF TREES. UM, AND THEN FINALLY, UM, I KNOW THAT SOME OF THE OPPOSITION FROM THE IMMEDIATE, IMMEDIATELY SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS WAS WITH RESPECT TO RENTAL UNITS. AND, UM, 55% OF OUR, UM, RENTAL BURDENED COMMUNITY ARE RENTERS. SO THIS, UM, ADDITIONALLY SUPPORTS, UH, PUBLIC POLICY AND CREATING UNITS FOR THOSE FOLKS. ALL RIGHT. MOTION IS FOR APPROVABLE BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON. ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER ON MY LEFT. COMMISSIONER ON MY RIGHT. ALRIGHT. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER FUENTES. AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER [01:25:01] BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER LEGIA HOLLAND? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. AYE. CHAIR SIPES? YES. ITEM PASSES. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. MOVING ON. ITEM FIVE I BELIEVE IS NEXT. GOOD AFTERNOON. ELIZABETH STEWART, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER 19. NUMBER FIVE IS LOCATED AT 3,800 SOUTH LOOP 1604. GOING FROM C TWO TO C THREE AND A C D S, GENERAL COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR FARM EQUIPMENT, SALES SERVICE AND SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR OUTSIDE STORAGE WITH SCREENING FROM PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAYS AND ADJACENT PROPERTIES, UM, WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. THERE WERE 25 NOTICES SENT OUT. ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ONE IN OPPOSITION. THERE IS NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET AND ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR OUTSIDE OF 200 FEET. THE EXISTING C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. THE REQUESTED C THREE AND A C D SS IS ALSO AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. THE REQUESTED REZONING BENEFITS THE SURROUNDING RURAL AREA AND CHARACTER AND PROVIDES GOODS AND SERVICES FROM A SUPPLY STORE. THE PROPOSED C THREE N A C D S WILL RESTRICT ALCOHOL SALES ON THE PROPERTY AND THE CONDITIONAL USE AND SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION WILL REQUIRE A DETAILED SITE PLAN THAT WILL BE TIED TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY. WITH THE SITE PLAN, ADEQUATE BUFFERING AND FENCING CAN BE REQUIRED TO PROTECT SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. IN ADDITION TO THIS, CONDITIONS CAN BE PLACED ON THE PROPERTY REGARDING LIGHTING HOURS OF OPERATION, LOCATION OF TRASH DUMPSTERS, AND OTHER SIMILAR STIPULATIONS FOR DEVELOPMENT. STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA, SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. OUR ZONE C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, AND IT IS IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO LOOP 1604. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT. THANK YOU. IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE. PATRICK CHRISTENSEN, UH, THREE 10 SOUTH ST. MARY'S SUITE 2,700. IF YOU HEARD ME TWO WEEKS AGO, I APOLOGIZE. I WILL GIVE MY SPEECH AGAIN. UM, WHAT WE'RE AT, WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR TODAY. SO MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THE PROPERTY HAS ALREADY ZONED C TWO COMMERCIAL. WE'RE ASKING FOR C THREE NA. C D S. AND THE REASON FOR THIS INTERESTING DESIGNATION IS WE'RE TRYING TO DO A TRACTOR SUPPLY STORE. IF YOU'VE NOT BEEN TO A TRACTOR SUPPLY STORE, I SUGGEST YOU GO. THEY'RE VERY CUTE STORES. THEY HAVE A REALLY INTERESTING PRODUCT MIX. THEY HAVE LAWNMOWERS, THEY HAVE GRILLS, THEY HAVE DOG FOOD, CAT FOOD, ALL KINDS OF SEED. THEY HAVE FERTILIZERS, THEY HAVE SEEDS, THEY SELL CHICKENS, CHICKEN COOPS. UM, A LOT OF DIFFERENT DIFFERENT. AND THEY SELL CLOTHES, BOOTS, HATS, ANYTHING, UH, A GUY OR SOMEONE IN A WITH A SMALL FARM WOULD NEED. UM, SO WE'RE ASKING FOR THE C THREE AND A C D S SO WE CAN HAVE THE OUTDOOR STORAGE AND THE FARM AND TRACTOR EQUIPMENT. THEY DO SELL TRACTOR ATTACHMENTS. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE MAKING THAT REQUEST. UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. OKAY, SO WE'VE, WE'VE ADMITTED THE SLIDE PLAN THAT THAT WAS IN, UM, STAFF'S PRESENTATION TO MOVE THE TRASH DUMPSTER. UM, BUT MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT THIS IS THE ONLY IN ACCESS TO THE TRACTOR SUPPLY STORE. THIS, THIS ENTRANCE TO THE SOUTH HAS A, A MEDIAN CUT RIGHT HERE. SO YOUR CUSTOMERS WILL BE COMING IN THROUGH THIS AREA. THERE ARE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES DOWN HERE TO THE SOUTH. SO YOUR NORMAL CUSTOMER WILL COME AND GO THIS WAY, IF WE HAVE A DELIVERY TRUCK, WE WILL COME IN, BACK UP, MAKE THE DELIVERY, AND THEN LEAVE THIS WAY. UM, THAT'S OUR TRAFFIC ACCESS. YOU NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND I'LL MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND. SO THIS IS THE BACKYARD FENCE. WE HAVE BASICALLY 76.6 FEET BETWEEN THE BACKYARD FENCE AND THE BACK OF OUR BUILDING. SO IT'S A PRETTY GOOD DISTANCE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. UM, YOU KNOW, I, IN THE INTERVENING TWO WEEKS, I DID HAVE A MEETING AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH, WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, SO WE'VE AGREED TO SOME CONDITIONS. NO PLACING ANY ALCOHOL RESTRICTIONS THAT NOBODY CAN SELL ALCOHOL THERE. NO FLASHING SIGNAGE, NO PROMOTIONAL OR TEMPORARY SALE SIGNAGE, DOWNWARD FACING LIGHTING ONLY. NO OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND OR SPEAKERS. NOBODY NO CLEAN UP ON L 12 TYPE TYPE NOISES. UH, ALL BUILDINGS SHALL NOT EXCEED 32 FEET IN HEIGHTS. THE BUILDING IS ACTUALLY 25 FOOT TALL AND THERE'S A FRONTAL DECORATIVE PITCH THAT IS 32 FEET HIGH. UH, TRACTOR SUPPLY WILL CONSTRUCT A SE CEMENT, CEMENT FIBER, FIBER PLANK FENCE AT THE PROPERTY LINE OF EIGHT FEET IN HEIGHT. T S C WILL PLANT FAST GROWING TREES ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE. AND WE'VE, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, WE'VE MOVED THE TRASH DUMPSTER AWAY FROM THE REAR OF THE BUILDING. SO, SO THAT'S OUR REQUEST. I KNOW THERE'S SOME PEOPLE HERE [01:30:01] THAT WE DON'T WANT WANT TO TALK. LET ME LET THEM SPEAK AND I'LL MAKE A LITTLE REBUTTAL. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. IF WE COULD HAVE THE SPEAKERS OR, OR DO WE HAVE VOICEMAILS AND SPEAKERS OR WHAT DO WE HAVE? THERE ARE NO VOICEMAILS. UH, WE DO HAVE TWO SPEAKERS. OKAY. WE HAVE A MISS, UH, KELLY MCCARTHY AND THE TO BE FOLLOWED BY MR. LYMAN. I JUST SAID THAT THERE WAS VOICEMAILS ON THERE. NO VOICEMAILS. OH REALLY? 'CAUSE PEOPLE SAID THEY LEFT VOICEMAILS TO ME. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF ANY VOICEMAILS WERE LEFT AFTER 10 O'CLOCK, 10:00 AM THIS MORNING, BUT 10:00 AM IS OUR CUTOFF. SO ALL THE VOICEMAILS THAT WE RECEIVED BY THEN ARE LISTED IN THE, UM, ARE GOING TO BE DOCUMENTED. OKAY, GOTCHA. AND I ALSO HAVE TWO PEOPLE THAT, UM, GAVE ME THEIR INFORMATION THAT WANNA, DO I PRESENT THAT NOW OR DO THEY, UM, HOW DOES THAT GET, 'CAUSE I, TWO PEOPLE GAVE ME THEIR INFORMATION AND WHAT THEY WANNA SAY. I MEAN, YOU, YOU, YOU'VE GOT A, A A LIMIT OF TIME, BUT YOU CAN TAKE WHATEVER INFORMATION THAT THEY HAVE OR THAT YOU HAVE. YEAH. WELL, I'M, I'M GONNA LET YOU GUYS KNOW, UM, I, I'M KELLY MCCARTHY AT 3 7 3 9 PRAIRIE POND. WE HAVE NO ESTABLISHED H O A, BUT WE PAY H O A I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET AHOLD OF H O A, THEY'RE NOT RESPONDING TO ME. IT'S CALLED ASSOCIATE. THEY HAVE NOT RESPONDED BACK TO ME. I'VE GOTTEN SOME INFORMATION 'CAUSE I'M VERY NEW TO H O A ON HOW I ESTABLISHED IN OUR RIGHTS TODAY. SO WE MAY NEED ANOTHER CONTINUANCE. I'VE TRIED TO DO MY BEST IN TWO WEEKS ON GETTING THE MEETING WITH HIM FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I KNOCKED ON EVERY SOMEONE'S DOOR. I'VE GIVEN OUT FLYERS. I'VE DONE EVERYTHING I COULD POSSIBLY DO TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN FRONT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL AS THE OPPOSITION THAT WE ALL HAVE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY ALSO WANTED ME TO PRESENT THAT TO YOU GUYS TODAY. A WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD. I WILL SPEAK ON BEHALF. 'CAUSE I GUESS I AM THE H O A AND I'M GONNA SAY THAT WE ARE OPPOSED TO TRACTOR SUPPLY BECAUSE OF THE WALL. IF THEY AGREE TO PUT A WALL UP IN FRONT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WE WOULD BE MORE THAN OKAY WITH TRACTOR SUPPLY. BUT WE NEED A WALL KNOWING THAT WE'RE GONNA BE OKAY FROM THE FRONT. AND WE NEED TO ALSO KNOW FUTURE DEVELOPMENT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE DON'T KNOW IF FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, WE'VE ALSO BEEN TOLD THERE'S GONNA BE AN EXTRA ROAD ON THE SIDE OF THE OTHER SIDE OF OUR COMPLEX, AS WELL AS ON THE LEFT SIDE WHERE THEY'RE GONNA BE BASICALLY COMING THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE NEED MORE INFORMATION ON WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN BEFORE WE CAN ACTUALLY SAY YES TO TRACTOR SUPPLY. WE ARE NOT AGAINST TRACTOR SUPPLY PER SE, WE ARE AGAINST THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. WE DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING AND WE'RE NOT GETTING ALL THE INFORMATION. THAT'S THE ISSUE WE ARE HAVING. UM, THEY, WE NEED AT LEAST 15 FEET FROM OUR DEVELOPMENT, AT LEAST FOR THEM TO PUT PLANTS AND TREES AND SHRUBS. SO IT TAKES US AWAY FROM THAT. AND I THINK YOU GUYS PRESENTED THAT THE LAST TIME. WE ALSO NEED, UM, THE DUMPSTER WAS NICE. WE ALSO NEED NOT JUST A WALL, NOT JUST A FENCE. WE NEED A WALL AT LEAST 10 TO 12 FEET IN ORDER TO BLOCK THIS TOWN. WE ARE ABOVE THE ACTUAL NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE PUTTING IN FRONT OF US AND THERE'S GONNA BE 200 HOMES BEHIND US. SO IF WE DON'T STOP THIS NOW, I DON'T, THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, WHAT THEY'RE TELLING ME, THERE'RE GONNA BE MINI MALL RESTAURANTS, ACCESS TO OTHER SET OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH I STILL HAVEN'T GOT, HOW THEY'RE GOING THROUGH YET. 'CAUSE OF THE HO ISSUE. UM, WE NEED TO KNOW THE UNKNOWN BEFORE WE CAN MAKE THIS DECISION. IT'S NOT, WE ARE FOR TRACTOR SUPPLY PER SE, BUT JUST NOT THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THAT'S THE ISSUE. AND WITHOUT HAVING A, UM, I'M TRYING TO REPRESENT AND DO EVERYTHING I CAN DOWN THE FACING LIGHTS. I'M GLAD THEY'RE DOING THAT. BUT THEY SAID ONLY ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING. WE DIDN'T IN THE WHOLE COMPLEX. SO WE JUST WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT WE WOULDN'T BE AGAINST IT IF WE GOT ALL THE INFORMATION. THE PROBLEM IS WE'RE NOT GETTING IT. I'VE ALSO SENT AN EMAIL, WHICH I GOT NO RESPONSE. UM, ALSO THAT WE, UM, WE WHAT THE FUTURE PLAN DEVELOPMENT ARE. ALSO, WE NEED TO KNOW WHERE THE ROAD WILL PASS THROUGH. WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT NOISE, POLLUTION, CRIME, TRAFFIC, LIGHTING CONCERNS, THE WALL. AND WE HAVE A LOT OF MILITARY AND, AND UNFORTUNATELY PEOPLE IN OUR FAM IN OUR COMMUNITY, JUST SO YOU KNOW, AND THEY'RE, THEY HAVE TO BE WORRIED OF THE NOISE MA'AM. LEVELS AS WELL. YOU'RE MR. MSAR, YOU, YOU'VE GONE PAST THE TWO MINUTES. OKAY. THANK YOU. BUT LET ME KNOW HOW I CAN PRESENT THE OTHER TWO PEOPLE. I DON'T KNOW IF MY, UM, NEIGHBOR COULD DO IT, BUT THERE'S TWO OTHER PEOPLE THAT WANTED TO AT LEAST GIVE THEIR INFORMATION TODAY. YEAH. IF THEY, THEY DID NOT SIGN UP. SO SADLY THEY COULDN'T DEVOTE TIME TO THE CASE. CAN HE PRESENT THEIR INFORMATION FOR THOSE TWO PEOPLE? YES, HE CAN. HE CAN PRESENT WHATEVER INFORMATION HE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT. SO JUST A REMINDER THAT YOU'VE GOT TWO MINUTES. GOOD AFTERNOON, SIR. THE MEMBERS OF THE PANEL HERE. UH, MY NAME IS LYMAN BELU. I STAY AT 3 7 0 3 PRAIRIE POND. I AM THE FIRST HOUSE ON THE CORNER OF WHERE TRACTOR SUPPLIES I SPOKE TWO WEEKS AGO. UM, UH, WE DID RAISE SOME CONCERNS. WE, WE BROUGHT THE COMMUNITY TO MY HOUSE AND WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT ISSUES AND THEY WERE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME ISSUES THAT WE MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY. AND THE RESPONSES THAT, UH, UH, MR. PATRICK CAREY PRESENTED, THEY WERE GREAT RESPONSES. JUST, UH, SOME THINGS INTO DETAIL. OKAY. UM, THE ONE THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT PRETTY MUCH WAS THAT FIBER PLANK FENCE. IT'S A CEMENT [01:35:01] FIBER PLANK FENCE. WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT IS NOISE. ALRIGHT. SOMETHING TO PREVENT THE NOISE, NOISE REDUCTION FROM THE, THE BUSINESS BEING RIGHT THERE IN OUR BACK. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE, THE TRASH CANS BEING MOVED UP TO THE OTHER SIDE. BUT I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE AN ISSUE WITH THAT. UH, THE NOISE COMING FROM THE BUSINESS NOW, SAY, STATING THAT THE BACK OF THE BUSINESS IS GONNA BE FACING THE HOMES WHERE THERE'S ONLY DELIVERY TRUCKS TO COME OUT THERE AND EXIT. OKAY. HOPEFULLY THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE. UM, THE WALL THAT MR UH, UH, UH, KELLY IS SPEAKING ABOUT, UH, THAT'S THE PLANK FENCE THAT WE HAD REQUESTED FOR A WALL TO REDUCE THAT NOISE REDUCTION IN ANY KIND OF CRIME, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. BUT THE OTHER ISSUE THAT I KIND OF THOUGHT ABOUT MYSELF TO SAY, IF THIS IS OUR FENCE LINE, THEIR PROPERTY LINE STARTS RIGHT AFTER OUR FENCE LINE. IF THAT WALL IS BUILT RIGHT THERE, I THINK IS GOOD. BUT I THINK, UH, SOME LAWS OR RULES ARE STATING THAT IT HAS TO BE 15 FEET OUT. THAT 15 FEET OUT WOULD LEAVE A GAP, WHICH WOULD BE LIKE A ALLEYWAY TO THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF WHAT WE HEAR IS SUPPOSED TO BE A MINI MALL ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE TRAIL OF SUPPLY. OKAY. AND TO ME, THAT THAT, THAT THAT WALKWAY ALLEYWAY OR SOMETHING BEHIND OUR HOUSES, WHICH WOULD BE A SHORTCUT TO A SHOPPING AREA PRETTY MUCH FOR ALL KINDS OF, UH, UM, I DON'T KNOW, BUSINESSES I THINK IS REALLY, UH, SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY DIDN'T, UH, UH, UH, FORESEE IN THE FUTURE. SO IF THE WALL WAS TO COME CLOSER TO THE FENCE, I THINK I WOULD, YOU KNOW, I THINK MYSELF AND THE COMMUNITY WOULD SAY, YES, THAT WOULD BE GREAT, RATHER THAN HAVING THE ALLEYWAY BEHIND OUR HOUSES. UM, OH, OKAY. THAT WAS MY TIME. ALRIGHT. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. APPRECIATE IT. JUST WANTED ALL THANK YOU MR. CHRISTENSEN. YES. COMMISSIONERS. UM, CAN YOU GO BACK TO MY PRESENTATION REAL QUICK? YEAH, RIGHT THERE. UM, THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OKAY. SO I SENT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I MEAN THE, THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THIS IS KIND OF A ZOOM IN OF, OF OUR AREA. SO THIS IS OUR PROPERTY UP HERE. AND THESE ARE OF COURSE THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. THIS IS THE ROAD THAT'S PROPOSED TO GO IN, IN THE FUTURE. THIS ROAD IS ALREADY BUILT. SO WHAT'S HAPPENING IS THE HOME BUILDERS, WHICH IS NOT MY CLIENT, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE BUILT A CERTAIN NUMBER OF HOMES AND ONCE THOSE SELL, THEY HAVE TO, IF THEY'RE HAVING OVER 125 HOMES, THEY HAVE TO HAVE A SECONDARY POINT OF ACCESS. AND THAT'S WHAT THAT ROAD ON THE RIGHT WILL BE. IT HASN'T BEEN BUILT YET. BEFORE THEY BUILD THE 126 HOME, THEY'VE GOT TO BUILD THAT SECONDARY ROAD. YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'VE GONE BACK AND FORTH WITH A DEVELOPER AND TRACTOR SUPPLY. I MEAN, WE CAN BUILD AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE. WE CANNOT BUILD A 12 FOOT WALL THAT IS JUST, UH, TOO EXPENSIVE. IF TRACTOR SUPPLY GOES AWAY, THE PROPERTY'S ALREADY COMMERCIAL. WE CAN PUT A WALMART THERE, WE CAN PUT AN H E B THERE. WE CAN PUT A CHILIES THAT SELLS ALCOHOL. I MEAN, YOU TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC, UH, TRACTOR SUPPLY GENERATES NO TRAFFIC COMPARED TO AN H E B. UM, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO ASK FOR TODAY. I THINK TRACTOR SUPPLY IS A GOOD USE. WE'LL, WE'LL CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON ANY CONDITIONS WE CAN DO. WE JUST, WE DON'T WANT TO CREATE AN ALLEYWAY. NO MAN'S LAND BETWEEN THE FENCE AND THEIR BACKYARD FENCE. THAT JUST INVITES TROUBLE. UM, ESPECIALLY WITH, YOU KNOW, HOMELESS CAMPS AND PEOPLE DUMPING TRASH AND EVERYTHING ELSE. THAT'S JUST GONNA BE A LOGISTICAL NIGHTMARE FOR US. UM, SO WE'D ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT. WE THINK IT'S A GOOD USE. IT'S A QUIET USE. THEY, THEY DON'T OPEN PAST EIGHT O'CLOCK ON WEEKDAYS. IT'S VERY QUIET BUSINESS. I WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UM, I'M LOOKING TO SEE WHERE AM I ON THIS CASE? WHICH ONE IS IT? WHICH ONE? THIS WAS ITEM FIVE. MM-HMM. . SO THAT IS, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER FUENTES. I WAS LOOKING TO SEE WHICH NUMBER. NO WORRIES. UH, DID I HAVE A QUESTION FOR, UH, MR. CHRISTENSEN? YES, COMMISSIONER. UH, SO, UH, JUST TO TO BE CLEAR, WE, WE ARE IN AGREEANCE BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND THE DEVELOPMENT TO DECREASE THAT ALLEYWAY IN BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND THE, THE DEVELOPMENT. WELL, THERE'S DIFFERENT OPINIONS OUT THERE. I, I BELIEVE, AND I DON'T WANT TO MISQUOTE HER, I THINK, UM, KELLY SAID THAT SHE WANTS A BUFFER BETWEEN THE FENCE AND THEIR BACKYARD FENCE. I BELIEVE MS. MR. LYMAN SAID HE DID NOT WANT A BUFFER. TRACTOR SUPPLY DOES NOT WANT A ALLEYWAY. NO MAN'S LAND BETWEEN THE TWO FENCES. WE THINK THAT INVITES TRASH DUMPING KIDS USING IT AS A SHORTCUT. JUST ALL KINDS OF BAD THINGS. SO WE WOULD RIGHT, AND MA'AM COULD, COULD YOU COME UP AND ANSWER THAT SCENE A, AFTER HAVING OUR MEETING AND BEING A REPRESENTATIVE OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD? 'CAUSE THE ONLY THING I CAN DO, UM, I REALIZED WITH BIKING, 'CAUSE I'M A CYCLIST, I WENT AROUND ALL THE COMMUNITIES AND I'VE SEEN A LOT OF WALLS JUST SO YOU KNOW THAT. SO IT'S NOT UNCOMMON, BUT UM, I GUESS THE WALL DOES START AT THE PROPERTY LINE. SO THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING I WOULD BE, WE WOULD BE OKAY WITH IT IF THEY PUT IN A WALL, NOT JUST A FENCE. THAT'S NOISE BARRIER. THAT HELPS WITH THE MILITARY AFFILIATION. LIKE I WAS SAYING IN OUR COMMUNITY, NOISE AND TRASH AND ALL THAT. THAT'S WHAT OUR, UM, COMMUNITIES I'M AFRAID OF. AND ALSO WITH THE ROAD NOW BEING TOLD TO US ON THE OTHER SIDE, UM, WE'RE JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC [01:40:01] AND THEY WANNA PUT IT THROUGH OUR ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD FEEL IF YOU LIVED IN A NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU WERE NEVER TOLD THAT YOU WERE GONNA HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF TRAFFIC IN 200 HOMES THROUGH YOUR WHOLE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD OUT TO 1604. SO THERE NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING DONE AND WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE ROAD ON THE OTHER SIDE, WHAT ARE THE DEVELOPMENTS GOING IN? BUT I'M OKAY WITH THE WALL BEING ON US NOW, BUT THERE HAS TO BE THAT 15 FOOT BARRIER OF GRASSLAND AND TREES AND PASTURE. I BELIEVE THAT THAT BARRIER'S INCLUDED IN THAT SITE PLAN. AND AS FAR AS THE, THE ROAD IS CONSIDERED, IT'S NOT A PART OF THIS, UH, CASE OR THIS DEVELOPMENT ADDRESS THAT, BUT IT'S GOING TO AFFECT US LATER ON WHAT'S GOING, GOING, WE APPROVE TRACTOR SUPPLY NOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE FUTURE ISSUES WITH ALL THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GONNA COME LATER. SO WE NEED TO FIGURE THIS OUT SO THAT THAT WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED SEPARATELY OF THIS. YEAH. SINCE IT'S NOT A PART OF THIS CASE, I HEAR YOUR CONCERNS. BUT THAT, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE BROUGHT UP WITH THE, UH, COUNCIL OFFICE. AND I, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO REACH OUT TO THE COUNCIL OFFICE ON THAT CONCERN SO WE CAN SEE WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT. WELL, IF WE CAN GET A CONTINUANCE, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO FIGURE THIS OUT AND A LITTLE BIT MORE GUIDANCE AS A NEIGHBORHOOD. 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A EFFECTIVE H O A I'VE GOTTEN GUIDANCE FROM THIS GENTLEMAN AND I'VE BEEN TRYING TO REACH OUT TO THE NEWS TO TRY TO GET ASSISTANCE BECAUSE IT'S NOT OKAY FOR THEM TO, TO PUT UP A NEIGHBORHOOD AND, AND DIDN'T JUST PUT UP A CONFERENCE IN FRONT OF US LIKE THIS. I, I UNDERSTAND, BUT AS FAR AS THIS CASE IS CONCERNED, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO DO WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS, UH, THERE OR THE DEVELOPER OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. SO WE WOULDN'T, WE AS A ZONING COMMISSION WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT. AND A CONTINUANCE ON THIS CASE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT. THAT ISSUE WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO BE BROUGHT UP BETWEEN THE COUNCIL OFFICE, THE DEVELOPER OF THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD AND UH, THE RESIDENCE. SO AS FAR AS THIS CASE IS CONCERNED, UH, THE CONCERNS ARE VALID, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE APPROPRIATELY TO BE ADDRESSED THROUGH THIS CASE. THAT'S WHAT I'M, I'M SAYING. OKAY. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT WE'VE HAD A LOT OF, UM, PEOPLE, I DON'T KNOW WHY THE VOICEMAILS WEREN'T HEARD. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE ISSUES YOU GUYS WERE HAVING WITH YOUR VOICEMAIL SYSTEM, BUT I KNOW PEOPLE WERE TRYING TO LEAVE MESSAGES AND ALSO TRYING TO VOICE THEIR OPINION ON THIS MATTER. WE'RE TRYING TO DO THE BEST WE CAN AS A NEW COMMUNITY, NOT GIVING REALLY ANY GUIDANCE. I UNDERSTAND AND I APPRECIATE THAT THESE NEW COMMUNITIES CAN BE KIND OF DIFFICULT TO NAVIGATE LIKE THAT. UH, BUT APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND ALL OF YOUR INPUT IN THIS. UH, YEAH, I MEAN HONESTLY I FEEL AS A NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, THEY'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE A LITTLE BIT OF US NOT HAVING A, AN ASSISTANT H O A AND NOT KNOWING WHAT WAS GOING ON WHEN THIS CAME IN AND THEN ONLY GIVING ME TWO WEEKS. WHICH I TRIED MY BEST TO GET THE WHOLE NEIGHBOR TOGETHER, BUT I NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME. THANK YOU MA'AM. YEAH, THANK YOU. UH, NO FURTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. ALRIGHT. ANY, ANY QUESTIONS? COMM UH, COMMISSIONER LAG? YEAH, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND. UH, AS FAR AS ENGAGEMENT THERE, YOU'RE AS FAR AS ENGAGEMENT, UM, MOSTLY WANNA ADDRESS THE RESIDENTS AND THEN IT'S REALLY A QUESTION FOR BOTH. I'M HEARING ALLUSION TO, THERE WAS A MEETING ALLUDING TO A MEETING THAT WAS HAD WITH RESIDENTS, BUT I'M ALSO HEARING THAT NOT ALL RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN REACHED. BUT I'VE ALSO HEARD THAT YOU DOOR KNOCKED AND SO I WANT CLARITY ABOUT WHO EXACTLY MET WITH THE FIRM, UM, AND AND WHO AND WHO THOSE PEOPLE ARE AND HOW MANY ARE NOT COUNTED WHEN YOU SAY THAT YOU NEED MORE PEOPLE TO DISCUSS THIS CASE? WE HAD, UM, WE ONLY HAD HALF OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AT THE MEETING, SO I TRIED TO GET TO MORE PEOPLE LAST NIGHT, BUT I COULDN'T GET TO EVERYBODY. WE ONLY GOT TWO WEEKS. WE LITERALLY, ONE OF THE WEEKS WAS JUST ADDRESSING THE MEETING AND MAKING THE MEETING. AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WAS TRYING TO GET EVERYONE'S OPINION, EVERYTHING OUT. AND I HAVEN'T EVEN GOTTEN H O TO RESPOND TO MEIA, WHICH I'VE BEEN JUST TOLD TODAY ON HOW I CAN ACT ON THAT. 'CAUSE I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW AN H O A REALLY WORKS APPARENTLY. UM, FROM THIS GENTLEMAN TODAY, HE TOLD ME I'M SUPPOSED TO BE THE ONE CONTROLLING IT. I THOUGHT THEY CONTROLLED US. SO I'M JUST TRYING TO DO MY BEST IN HELPING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND REALIZING THAT THIS PROJECT IS BIGGER THAN JUST TRACTOR SUPPLY AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE CAN DO. 'CAUSE I GET A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION FROM EVERYBODY, BUT I HAVE A FULL-TIME JOB. I RUN A WHOLE BUNCH OF COMMUNITIES. I'M A CYCLIST. I RUN A WHOLE, I DID A CANCER RIDE OVER THE WEEKEND. I'M TRYING TO DO MY BEST. THANK YOU. TO HELP OUT THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. YES. AND MR. CHRISTENSEN, THIS IS THE MEETING THAT YOU ATTENDED THAT LED TO THE CHANGES THAT YOU SHARED WITH US AS FAR AS WHAT YOU ALLUDED TO AS CONCESSIONS WITH THE RESIDENTS? CORRECT. SO WHAT HAPPENED WAS, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, SO I, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO REACH OUT TO PEOPLE. SO ONCE THEY GOT THE CITY NOTICES, THAT'S WHEN I HEARD FROM, FROM LYMAN WHO, WHO SPOKE HERE TODAY. UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAME TO THE, TO THE, UH, ZONING COMMISSION HEARING TWO WEEKS AGO. LYMAN WAS GENEROUS ENOUGH TO HAVE A, A MEETING AT HIS HOUSE WITH FOOD AND DRINKS AND THERE WERE PROBABLY 20, 25 PEOPLE THERE. WE MADE A LITTLE PRESENTATION. I BROUGHT A REPRESENTATIVE FROM TRACTOR SUPPLY [01:45:01] STORE, SHE'S HERE TO TODAY IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FOR HER. UM, AND IN IN IN THE MEANTIME, I'VE SENT THEM THE, THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE AREAS THEY COULD UNDERSTAND WHERE THE ROAD WAS GOING AND HOW THIS WHOLE SECTION ALONG LOOP 1604 WAS DESIGNATED COMMERCIAL AND, AND, AND, AND GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH THAT AND WITH THE COUNCIL OFFICE, YOU KNOW, WE CAME UP WITH THIS LIST OF CONDITIONS. I'LL STILL TALK TO 'EM ABOUT THE CONDITIONS WE HAVE A MONTH BEFORE WE GO TO CITY COUNCIL. THERE'S PLENTY OF TIMES IF THEY WANNA HAVE ANOTHER MEETING, I'LL GO OUT THERE. I'M HAPPY TO. AND MR. LAMAN WHO HOSTED THE MEETING YES MA'AM. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE HEIGHT OF THE FENCE OR THE TYPE OF FENCE. YES. IS IT YOUR OPINION THAT THE ISSUES WERE ADDRESSED AT THE MEETING THAT YOU HAD? I WANNA SAY THERE WAS, FEEL FREE TO COME TO THE PODIUM. WE HAD, EXCUSE ME MA'AM. WE HAD NINE ISSUES THAT WE ADDRESSED AND I WANNA SAY EIGHT OF THEM, PRETTY MUCH TO ME WERE PRETTY MUCH COMPLETE. THE ONLY THING WAS THE WALL THAT WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE, BUT ONE ISSUE THAT DIDN'T COME UP. BUT, UH, I DIDN'T THINK, UH, THE TRACTOR SUPPLY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR IT. AS THE TRAFFIC DOES INCREASE, UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT MAY INCREASE, BUT TO TURN OFF INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, INTO LONESOME DOVE, THERE'S NO LIGHT OR ANYTHING. IT'S JUST A STOP SIGN TO ENTER AND EXIT. BUT YOU HAVE TO MAKE A U-TURN TO COME BACK AND TURN INTO OUR PROP INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. OKAY. SO TRACTOR SUPPLY, I WENT TO A COUPLE OF THEM. THEY HAVE, UH, A LOT OF TRUCKS WITH TRAILERS THAT MOVE A LOT OF EQUIPMENT AND I'M JUST LOOKING AT, YES, THEY GOTTA MOVE THAT TRUCK WITH THEY TRAILERS JUST, UH, UH, FLATBED TRUCKS, EXCUSE ME, NOT FLATBED, BUT UM, THE REGULAR PICKUP TRUCKS THAT HAVE TRAILERS AND I MEAN, I WENT TO A COUPLE OF THEM AND THE WHOLE PARKING LOT IS PRETTY MUCH FULL WITH THEM TYPE OF TRUCKS WITH THAT TRAILER. AND TO MAKE THAT U-TURN AND TURN DOWN INTO THE COMMUNITY, GO TO THE ENTRANCE. IF THE ENTRANCE IN THE EXIT IS RIGHT THERE IN THE FRONT OF TRACTOR SUPPLY, WHICH GOES ALONG 1604, I DON'T SEE AN ISSUE. BUT IT HAVE TO, IF IT HAS TO GO ALL THE WAY AROUND AND COME PAST THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THESE DIFFERENT TYPE OF TRUCKS WITH ALL THE STUFF THEY GOT, THAT MAY BE AN ISSUE. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSION ON MY LEFT. COMMISSIONER? YES, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, SO I'M GONNA HIT A COUPLE OF THINGS AGAIN JUST TO BE ULTRA ULTRA CLEAR. ALRIGHT, SO FIRST OFF STAFF, TO YOU, UH, BETWEEN C TWO AND RESIDENTIAL USAGES, THERE'S A REQUIREMENT FOR A FENCE OF EIGHT FEET TALL. IS THAT CORRECT? IT'S ACTUALLY A REQUIREMENT OF SIX FEET. UM, OKAY. BUT THE RESIDENTIAL COULD, UH, POTENTIALLY GO UP TO EIGHT FEET WITH NO ISSUE. OKAY. UM, WITH CODE. SO, AND THEN THEY'RE PROPOSING AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE RIGHT NOW PER THE, PER THE SITE PLAN. PATRICK TO YOU? YES, THAT'S CORRECT. COMMISSIONER. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. AND THIS IS A CD, CORRECT? THIS IS A CONDITIONAL USE, CORRECT? CORRECT. A CONDITIONAL USE AND A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION. OKAY. WHICH EACH OF THOSE MEANS THAT THEY'RE BOUND BY THIS SITE PLAN, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. ALRIGHT, SO BETWEEN A COMMERCIAL USE AND RESIDENTIAL, THERE'S A REQUIREMENT FOR A 25 FOOT BUFFER, CORRECT? NO, UM, IT'S BASED OFF OF THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT. SO BETWEEN A C THREE AND A RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT, IT'S A 15 FOOT, UH, LANDSCAPE BUFFER. AND IN THIS CASE THERE'S A 25 FOOT BUFFER ON THE SITE PLAN, CORRECT? PATRICK? YES, COMMISSIONER. THANK YOU. YES, AND A 78 76 PLUS FOOT BUILDING SETBACK. OKAY, SO THAT'S GREATER THAN WHAT WOULD BE RE ? PARDON ME? THAT'S GREATER THAN WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED BY CODE. THAT IS CORRECT. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. SO IN THESE SITUATIONS, BECAUSE THEY ARE BOUND BY THE SITE PLAN, THEY WILL END UP DOING THAT AND, AND THEY'RE ALREADY EXCEEDING THE FENCE BY THE FENCE REQUIREMENT BY TWO FEET. SO I THINK THIS IS A PRETTY GOOD OUTCOME. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, CHAIR. ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER? SO MIGHT JUST TO COMMENT. I, I AGREE. DO YOU WANNA WAIT FOR YES, WE HAVE THE MOTION THEN WE'LL MAKE COMMENT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. , BACK TO YOU COMMISSIONER FUENTES FOR A MOTION. THANK YOU CHAIR. UH, I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO APPROVE THE, UH, APPROVE THIS CASE AND, UH, HAVE SOME COMMENT ONCE WE GET, WE'LL SECOND THAT. ALRIGHT. UH, MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARTOS. UM, AND IS THIS, UH, AS AMENDED? YES. AS AMENDED? I BELIEVE SO, CORRECT. AS AMENDED? AS AMENDED, YES. UH, COMMISSIONER FUENTES AND THEN WE'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER [01:50:01] ON MY RIGHT FOR COMMENTS. UH, SO THINKING YEARS DOWN, UH, THE ROAD, THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, PLANS FOR DEVELOPMENT, A LOT OF COMMERCIAL USES, AND I THINK SUCH A USE AS TRACTOR SUPPLY IN THIS CASE IS A GOOD LOW DENSITY, UH, UH, SOLUTION FOR MAKING THAT BUFFER BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL AREA AND THE FUTURE COMMERCIAL USES. UH, GRANTED THERE ARE SOME ISSUES THAT WE ARE GONNA HAVE TO ADDRESS DOWN THE LINE WITH TRAFFIC AND, AND WHATNOT, BUT, UM, IN THIS CASE, I THINK THIS IS A, A VERY GOOD, UH, MEDIAN USE. AND, UH, I, UH, REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE CONCESSIONS THAT WERE MADE BY THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, TO THE COMMUNITY, UM, AND GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND. THAT'S WHY I'LL BE MOTIONING FOR, UH, APPROVAL. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. UM, COMMISSIONER LU HOLLAND, DID YOU HAVE COMMENTS? YOU DO, OR, OH, DON'T, OH, SORRY. I THOUGHT I OH, COMMISSIONER GREENHOUSE. YEAH, JUST TO THE RESIDENTS. UM, THE, THIS IS, UM, I DEVELOPMENT CAN BE, UH, NEW DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH CAN BE REALLY A SCARY THING. AND I KNOW THAT A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY'S DEALING WITH THAT RIGHT NOW, JUST WITH THE AMOUNT OF GROWTH THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING IN TEXAS GENERALLY. AND I JUST WANNA REITERATE WHAT, UM, WHAT THE COMMISSIONER, WHAT COMMISSIONER FUENTES SAID ABOUT REACHING OUT TO YOUR COUNCIL OFFICE WITH RESPECT TO THE TRAFFIC ISSUES AND TRYING TO GET THAT, UM, SOLVED AND, AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE COMMUNICATING WITH THEM WITH RESPECT TO THAT. ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER'S ON MY LEFT. COMMISSIONER MR. MONTE. AND, SORRY, JUST TO SORT OF PILE ON THAT AS WELL IS, AS MR. CHRISTENSEN NOTED, THERE'S 30 DAYS BETWEEN THIS MEETING AND THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL. UH, YOU KNOW, YOU STILL HAVE THAT TIME. IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, TALK TO YOUR COUNCIL PERSON, TALK TO THEIR STAFF. I BELIEVE A REPRESENTATIVE OF YOUR COUNCILPERSON STAFF WAS HERE. OH, HE IS RIGHT BACK THERE. SO HE'S WAVING HIS HAND. YOU CAN GO TALK TO HIM RIGHT BACK THERE. UM, SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. COMMISSIONER MARS. JUST TO COMMENT, I TOOK THE TIME TO ACTUALLY GO AND CHECK THIS, UH, STORE IN ANOTHER LOCATION AND THEY'RE VERY CLEAN OPERATION. I WAS VERY, VERY IMPRESSED. UM, NO NOISE WHATSOEVER. VERY CLEAN IN AND OUT. UM, I WAS VERY IMPRESSED. AND ALSO I WAS VERY IMPRESSED THAT THEY, UH, IS A SOURCE OF EMPLOYMENT AND THEY DO EMPLOY A LOT OF, UH, VETERANS AND, UH, SENIORS. AND SO IT COULD END UP BEING A WIN-WIN FOR THE COMMUNITY ALSO, UH, ON THE SOURCE OF TRAFFIC. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY NEED TO KEEP AN EYE WITH THE HELP OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER AND JUST ASK FOR HELP WITH THE TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT EVENTUALLY. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? NONE. OKAY. AND I WANNA ECHO WHAT MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HAVE SAID, AND I ALSO WANT TO, UM, SAY TO THE, THE NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE COME OUT MULTIPLE TIMES, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, YOU ARE LEARNING ON THE SPOT AND ALSO YOUR DILIGENCE. YOU WERE ABLE TO MAKE THIS PROJECT BETTER. UM, AND AS COMMISSIONER BUSANTE SAID, THERE'S STILL 30 DAYS FOR ADDITIONAL BACK AND FORTH, YOU KNOW, BEFORE IT GETS TO COUNCIL. BUT, UM, IT WAS BECAUSE Y'ALL MENTIONED, HEY, THERE'S, WE DON'T WANT THE DUMPSTER THERE. THEY MOVED THE DUMPSTER, THEY INCREASED THE, THE, UH, BUFFER. SO, UM, Y'ALL ARE TO BE CONGRATULATED FOR THAT. AND WITH THAT, IF WE COULD DO A ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL. COMMISSIONER FUENTES AYE. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER LU HOLLAND? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE. AYE. CHAIR SIPES? YES. ITEM PASSES AS AMENDED. ALRIGHT, UM, OH, I FORGOT. DON'T LOOK AT THAT CLOCK. WHICH IS WRONG. BY THE WAY. THE TIME IS THREE 10 AND WE ARE GONNA TAKE A SHORT RECESS OF FIVE, 10 MINUTES. SO WE WILL, TIME IS THREE 10 AND THE ZONING COMMISSION IS IN RECESS. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU WOULD TAKE YOUR SEATS. WE ARE GONNA GET BACK TO GOING. UM, OH, ALL THE TIME IS 3 21 AND THE ZONING COMMISSION IS BACK IN SESSION. WE ARE GOING TO GO IN ORDER. SO ITEM NUMBER SIX WILL BE NEXT. UM, AND WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS REALIZING THAT UH, A LOT OF NEIGHBORS ARE HERE AFTER STAFF MAKES THEIR PRESENTATION. WE'LL, [01:55:01] WE'LL HAVE THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN, AND THEN WE'LL ALLOW, UH, I GUESS SHE'S OUT THERE. WELL SHE'LL COME BACK IN THEN WE'LL ALLOW THE THE APPLICANT TO, TO GIVE THEIR PRESENTATION AS WELL. SO THERE WE GO. GO AWAY STAFF. GOOD AFTERNOON. SO STAFF'S JUST GONNA DO A BRIEF INTRODUCTION OF THE CASE AND WE'LL DO OUR FULL PRESENTATION AFTER THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION. UM, SO THIS CASE ITEM NUMBER SIX IS GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 7,500 BLOCK OF PRU ROAD GOING FROM R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY TO P U D R FIVE, PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. AND WE'LL DO THE REST LATER. ALRIGHT. AND IF WE COULD START WITH PUBLIC COMMENT AND AGAIN, IF SOMEONE IS GOING TO YIELD THEIR TIME TO SOMEONE ELSE, WHEN THAT PERSON IS CALLED, LET US KNOW WHO YOU ARE AND WE'LL ADD THEIR TIME. YEAH, WE'LL DO SPEAKERS AND THEN WE'LL DO VOICEMAILS. ALRIGHT. ALL RIGHT. UM, WE HAVE MS. ALMA FELD AS ITEM, UH, PERSON NUMBER ONE AND THEN MR. MARK, UH, JABLONSKI WILL BE AFTER HER. IS THERE A MS. ALMA BELL BELLFIELD? YES. YES. I RECOGNIZE A FEW FACES SO IF YOU PUT THAT STICK IN PLEASE. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. SO MY NAME IS ALMA BELLFIELD. I LIVE AT 8 3 5 7 ROCHELLE ROAD. I REPRESENT ELMO FARMSTEADS BABCOCK ROAD NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AS VICE PRESIDENT, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION COVERS ABOUT HALF OF THE HEDON AND LEON CREEK COMMUNITY PLAN AREA. WE OPPOSE THIS ZONING REQUEST. THE PLANNED DENSITY INTENSITY IS WAY TOO HIGH COMPARED TO THE ADJOINING NEIGHBORHOODS. EVEN THOUGH THE REQUESTED ZONING IS R FIVE P, THE PLANNED LOT SIZES ARE NOWHERE NEAR R FIVE SIZES OF 5,000 SQUARE FEET. THE SUBMITTED PLAN SHOWS VERY SMALL LOT SIZES FOR EACH HOUSING UNIT SO SMALL THAT THREE OR FOUR OF THE PROPOSED UNITS WOULD BACK UP TO EACH HOUSE IN THE NEIGHBORING R SIX LOTS. THE PROPOSED PLAN LAYOUT SHOWS HOUSING UNIT INTENSITY WORSE THAN R TWO, WHICH WOULD BE 2000 SQUARE FEET LOTS. THE MINI PACKET SECTION SEVEN STATES, THE PROPOSAL HAS A MINIMUM LOT SIZE OF 1200 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IN FACT IS LESS THAN AN R ONE LOT SIZE, WHICH REQUIRES 1,250 SQUARE FEET. NONE OF THE OTHER POD ZONINGS IN OUR AREA HAVE BEEN USED TO REDUCE LOT SIZE ONLY TO GIVE FLEXIBILITY ON THE STREET LAYOUTS WHERE YOU SEE EXISTING R FIVE POD ZONING. IN OUR AREA, THE LOTS ARE ACTUALLY R FIVE SIZES 5,000 SQUARE FEET. THE HE LEON CREEK COMMUNITY PLAN INDICATES LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL FOR THIS PROPERTY AND IT EXPLICITLY LISTS R FOUR AS THE HIGHEST DENSITY ALLOWED. IT WAS NEVER THE INTENTION TO ALLOW THIS TYPE OF, OF PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IN LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL WITHIN THE HEMA LEON CREEK COMMUNITY PLAN AREA. THE PUD DESIGNATION OPENS UP THE POSSIBILITY OF EVEN HIGHER CONCENTRATION BUILDING THAN THE CURRENT PROPOSED PLAN, WHICH SHOWS 56 UNITS. AS SOON AS THIS ZONING IS APPROVED, THEY CAN GO ON APPLY FOR 80 UNITS. THE APPLICANT ONLY BOUGHT THE SUBJECT SUBJECT PROPERTY RECENTLY, SO THEY HAVE NO GROUNDS TO USE THE DIFFICULT TERRAIN AS AN EXCUSE TO INFLICT HIGH INTENSITY DEVELOPMENT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE DEVELOPERS HAVE CONFIRMED THAT THE EXISTING R SIX ZONING WOULD ALLOW THE SAME NUMBER OF UNITS TO BE BUILT AS THEIR PLANNED R FIVE FLOOD. WE URGE YOU TO DENY THIS REQUEST. THANK YOU. AND, UM, FOR THE NEXT PERSON I KNOW I ORIGINALLY SAID, UM, ONE NAME, BUT I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND CALL OUT MS. JANIE STEIN. YES, UH, I YIELD MY TIME TO UH, MATT CANNON BECAUSE I HAVE TO LEAVE. ALRIGHT. AND THEN MS. MARY FAYE. AND I'M GONNA SURRENDER MY TIME TO JOSH TOO. ALRIGHT, SO THAT IS TWO THAT ARE GOING TO GIVE THEIR TIME TO, I'M SORRY, WHAT IS THE NAME? MR. MATT. MATT CANNON. CANNON IS THE LAST NAME. CANON. THAT'S ONE. THAT'S ONE. AND THE OTHER ONE IS, I DON'T [02:00:01] HAVE A CANON. UH, JOSH, I DONINGTON. OH, OKAY. I HAVE A JOHN. YES, JOHN MATT CANNON. SO MR. CANNON, YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME UP HERE AND SPEAK. YOU WILL HAVE SIX MINUTES AND THE OTHER ONE IS FOR, UM, ARRINGTON. IS THAT THE NAME? ATON? CAN WE SPEAK UP? SO WAIT, SO FOUR AND FOUR OR SIX? FOUR AND FOUR. OKAY. I APOLOGIZE. FOUR FOR MR. CANNON AND THEN FOUR FOR MR. ARRINGTON. THANK YOU THERE. OKAY. ALRIGHT, YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE ACTUALLY. HI, I AM MATT CANNON. I LIVE AT 1 0 3, 1 6, LOST BLUFF. I'M A LOCAL GEOLOGIST. UH, MY REASONS FOR OPPOSING THIS PLAN ARE, ARE MULTIPLE, ACTUALLY THERE'S, OKAY, SO THE MAP WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW, IS THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLAN SUPERIMPOSED ON THE A HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD PLAN FROM FEMA AS UH, NO, THERE'S A LASER POINTER. EVEN BETTER. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE CURRENT PLAN, THEIR ROAD IS INFRINGING UPON THE HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD PLANE. RIGHT? AS WE ALL KNOW, CLIMATE CHANGE IS EXACERBATING THESE TYPES OF EVENTS AND WE CAN LOOK FORWARD TO WORSE AND WORSE FLOODS IN THE FUTURE. UH, THEY DON'T, THE BEXAR COUNTY DOES NOT HAVE THE 500 YEAR FLOOD PLAN AVAILABLE ON THEIR WEBSITE, BUT IF THIS IS THE A HUNDRED YEAR, YOU CAN BE SURE THOSE HOMES AT THE BOTTOM ARE IN THE 500 YEAR. I CAME HERE FROM HOUSTON JUST TWO YEARS AGO WHERE WE GOT 500 YEAR FLOODS, THREE YEARS IN A ROW. THIS IS NOT OUTSIDE THE REALM OF POSSIBILITY. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. ALRIGHT, SO SAME, UH, PLAN FROM THE DEVELOPER. THIS TIME SUPERIMPOSED ON THE GEOLOGIC MAP FROM THE EDWARDS AQUIFER AUTHORITY. GIL, SEE TWO DIFFERENT SHADES OF BROWN. THERE'S A LIGHT BROWN. THIS IS THE BEAUTIFUL FORMATION, GREAT FORMATION FOR BUILDING ON 40 TO 90 FOOT THICK LIMESTONE MAKES FOR GOOD FOUNDATION MATERIAL. WHAT YOU SEE DOWN HERE IN THE, UH, THE SORT OF GREENISH BROWN IS THE DEL RIO CLAY. THIS IS A, WELL, A CLAY FORMATION. IT, IT EXPANDS AND IT SHRINKS AS IT GETS WET AND DRIES OUT. THIS IS A KNOWN PROBLEM. THE CITY THOUGHT THEY HAD SOLVED THIS PROBLEM WHEN THEY ALLOWED THE PROVEN END DIVISION TO BE BUILT ON IT. BUT AS THE FOLKS IN THE PROVEN DIVISION WILL TELL YOU, THEY ARE HAVING RAMPANT FOUNDATION ISSUES, THIS IS A KNOWN PROBLEM. UM, TO MAKE THIS ALL WORSE, YOU KNOW, AND ALL OF THIS, THIS PLAN WAS REAL. SOMETHING ABOUT RIVER MIST. YOU KNOW, 10 YEARS AGO THE CITY BUILT A VERY SIMILAR SUBDIVISION AT RIVER MIST, RIGHT? WHAT, WHAT DO YOU THINK THE GEOLOGY IS AT RIVER MIST? IT'S THE BETA FOUNDA FORMATION AT THE TOP WITH DEL RIO, RIGHT? WHERE THAT RETAINING WALL THAT FAILED SO SPECTACULARLY AND GAVE THE CITY A BLACK EYE. UH, IT'S THE EXACT SAME GEOLOGY. IN FACT, I HAVE THAT GEOLOGIC MAP LATER. YEAH, LET'S GO TO THAT. LET'S, SO HERE'S JUST THE GEOLOGIC MAP OF OUR AREA. NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS THE GEOLOGIC MAP OF RIVER MIST RIGHT THERE AT THAT VIEW TO DEL RIO CONTACT IS WHERE THAT RETAINING WALL FAILED . SO I KNOW THE CITY SAYS THEY LEARNED A LOT OF LESSONS FROM RIVER MIST. I HOPE THAT'S TRUE FOR THE SAKE OF US LIVING AT THE TOP OF THE HILL. FOR THE SAKE OF THE FOLKS LIVING AT THE BOTTOM OF THE HILL, FOR THE SAKE OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GONNA BUY HOMES IN THIS PLACE, NOBODY SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO BUILD. I HOPE THE CITY LEARNED THEIR LESSON TO MAKE ALL OF THIS WORSE. IF YOU WALK AROUND IN THE WOODS BACK THERE, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THERE ARE EVIDENCE OF THREE DIFFERENT TIMESCALES OF SLOPE INSTABILITY. WE HAVE BOULDERS OF THE BUTYL LIMESTONE ALL OVER THAT SLOPE SHOWING ON THE MILLENNIAL SCALE THE THOUSAND YEAR SCALE. THERE HAS BEEN MATERIAL FALLING DOWN THIS SLOPE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THEN AT A SHORTER TIME SCALE, WE HAVE, WE HAVE ALL THESE TREES THAT STARTED OUT GROWING STRAIGHT, BUT THEN THE SLOPE UNDERNEATH THE MOOD. AND SO THEY HAD TO ADJUST TO GROW STRAIGHT UP TO GET TO THE LIGHT. AND AGAIN, MORE OF THESE BOULDERS OF YOU TO LIMESTONE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THEN YOU HAVE THIS, THIS INTERMEDIATE TIMESCALE. WE HAVE SMALL TREES WHICH ARE, HAVE BEEN TILTED BY, AT LEAST IN MY OPINION, SOIL CREEP. MOVING DOWN SLOPE AGAIN, SHOWING HOW UNSTABLE THIS SLOPE IS. YOU CAN SEE 1, 2, 3 IN THIS IMAGE. FOUR ACTUALLY SHOOT, UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. UH, AND THEN LARGER TREES, RIGHT? SO EVEN TREES WITH LARGE FOUNDATIONS, LARGE ROOT SYSTEMS ARE BEING TILTED AGAIN AS THE [02:05:01] SOIL UNDERNEATH THEM MOVES DOWN SLOPE. NEXT ONE. YEAH, SAME THING. EVEN WITH THESE REALLY LARGE TREES, SOME OF THESE TREES THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR WELL OVER 50 YEARS, MAYBE AS MUCH AS THE HUNDRED YEARS, VERY CONSISTENT ALL ACROSS THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY. I AM NOT AGAINST DEVELOPMENT IN GENERAL, BUT THIS IS NOT A PLACE THAT PEOPLE SHOULD BE BUILDING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, I JUST WANNA CONFIRM, IS THERE ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO GIVE THEIR TIME TO ANOTHER SPEAKER? PLEASE LET ME KNOW. THAT WAY WE CAN MAKE SURE YOU GUYS, UH, WHAT IS YOUR NAME? VICTOR RE SORRY. AHEAD. UH, VICTOR TORRES. JUSTIN KIRK TO JUSTIN. OKAY. YES. VICTOR TORRES TO JUSTIN KIRK? YES. OKAY, THANK YOU MA'AM. I'M CLAUDIA AND I'M FIELDING MY TIME TO KRISTEN, UH, SPEAK AND I'M SORRY. UH, OKAY. CLAUDIA HERNANDEZ? YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND SIR? ANGEL RODRIGUEZ. USUALLY MY TIME. JOSH ERIC. OKAY. SO IS THAT ALL THAT WANTED TO GIVE THEIR TIME TO SOMEBODY ELSE? OKAY. SO, UM, THE NEXT PERSON, UH, AS AN MR. ANGEL RODRIGUEZ IS GIVING HIS TIME TO MR. JOSH ARRINGTON. HE ALREADY HAS TIME FROM MS. MARY FAYE. SO THAT GIVES HIM SIX MINUTES. COUNSEL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. WHY ARE WE HERE TODAY? AND I DON'T MEAN THAT AS A ESOTERIC QUESTION OR QUESTION OF EPISTEMOLOGY. I MEAN THAT AS A WHY ARE WE HERE TODAY? ALL THE HOAS SURROUNDING THIS HAVE ASKED FOR FURTHER INFORMATION FROM THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE DEVELOPER THAT THEY HAVE NOT GIVEN. EVEN THOUGH THEY'VE TOLD US TIME AND TIME AGAIN, THEY WOULD BE PROVIDING IT AS LATE AS LAST NIGHT. SOME OF THESE STUDIES WERE PROVIDED, BUT LATE AT NIGHT WHEN WE HAD NO CHANCE TO REVIEW THEM, NO CHANCE TO LOOK OVER THE INFORMATION. NOW THEY'LL PROBABLY GET UP HERE AND TELL YOU THEY'VE MET WITH US AND THEY'VE TRIED TO MEET US IN THE MIDDLE. BUT ALL THE CONVERSATIONS THEY'VE HAD WITH US HAVE BEEN COSMETIC AT BEST. THEY HAVE NOT DEALT WITH THE UNDERLYING MAJOR CONCERNS. WE ARE A PRO-DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY. WE UNDERSTAND THE SAN ANTONIO HOUSING NEEDS THAT WERE MENTIONED EARLIER, BUT THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY HAS UNIQUE CHALLENGES. WHEN WE BUILT IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, THE CURRENT DEVELOPERS AT THE TIME TOLD US THAT THEY HAD NOT PURCHASED THIS LAND AND HAD NOT DEVELOPED IT BECAUSE IT WAS UNSTABLE DUE TO SLOPE AND FLOOD CONCERNS. HOW IRONIC THAT YOUR STAFF, ACCORDING TO KEN'S FIVE, HAS SAID THERE IS NO FLOOD CONCERNS AND NO SLOPE ISSUES ON THIS PROPERTY. I INVITE YOU ALL, I'LL PROVIDE THE COLD WATER COME OUT TO OUR PLACE, WALK THE PERIMETER OF THIS PROPERTY, YOU'LL NEED THE WATER BECAUSE OF ALL THE TERRAIN CHANGE. AS A WEALTH MANAGER, I APPRECIATE FIRMLY CAPITALISM. I APPRECIATE FIRMLY PEOPLE MAKING A GREAT PROFIT. BUT WE TELL OUR CLIENTS ON REAL ESTATE AND PRIVATE EQUITY DEALS ALL THE TIME WHEN IT'S TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE, IT PROBABLY IS AND IT'S ON YOU. THE PURCHASES OF THIS PROPERTY PURCHASED IT FAR BELOW MARKET VALUE. THEY PURCHASED IT FOR UNDER $700,000 FOR 11 ACRES THOUGH JUST DOWN THE STREET. CURRENTLY THERE ARE FIVE ACRES SELLING FOR A MILLION DOLLARS. THEY PAID LESS THAN A THIRD OF MARKET VALUE. BASED ON THAT. THEY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THERE WERE GOING TO BE CONCERNS. AND THAT IS ON THEM. IT'S NOT ON US. WE ARE HERE BECAUSE THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE HAS BEEN STRONG. CHANGE.ORG HAS OVER A THOUSAND SIGNATURES IN OPPOSITION TO THIS. THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WITHIN THE 200 FOOT ZONE HAVE ALL FILED ALL THE APPROPRIATE PAPERWORK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS. I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING THOSE NUMBERS, THE CORRESPONDENCE NUMBERS OF HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE OPPOSED. IF YOU SIMPLY LOOK AT YOUR AGENDA TODAY, YOU WILL SEE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION DWARFS EVERY OTHER PERSON THAT HAS SPOKEN. PERHAPS ONE OF THE GREATEST CONCERNS FOR US IS THE TRAFFIC HAZARD. THE PROPOSED ENTRANCE FOR THIS PROPERTY IS WHAT IS WHAT IS CALLED DEAD MAN'S CURVE BECAUSE SEVERAL YEARS AGO SOMEONE DIED ON THIS CURVE CAUSING THE THE NEIGHBORHOOD ABOVE US IN OAK BLUFF TO ACTUALLY SEAL OFF AN ENTRANCE WHERE NOW WE'RE PROPOSING ENTERING MORE TRAFFIC INTO A ROAD THAT IS CURRENTLY BEING DEVELOPED TO INCREASE TRAFFIC FLOW ALREADY THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSING. THE ENTRANCE IS THE SITE OF HUMBLE CREEK. UH, DAYCARE. WHEN THEY ASKED FOR REZONING JUST YEARS AGO, THEY WERE TOLD THEY COULD NOT HAVE AN ENTRANCE ONTO PERU BECAUSE IT WAS TOO DANGEROUS. AS A RESULT, THEY HAD TO BUY A PROPERTY ON THE BACKSIDE AND CREATE THEIR ENTRANCE OFF OF OLD PERU. WHAT'S CHANGED? NOTHING. WE WITNESSED THE ROLLOVER ACCIDENTS EXACTLY WHERE THEY'RE WANTING TO PUT THEIR ENTRANCE. WE CAN SHOW YOU THE BROKEN STREET [02:10:01] LAMPS, THE BROKEN FENCING THAT CARS HAVE GONE THROUGH. THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE OF IT BEING A NUISANCE. THIS IS AN ISSUE OF LIFE AND LIMB. WE ASK THAT YOU BE CONSISTENT WITH YOUR RULINGS, THAT YOU NOT ALLOW AN ENTRANCE TO BE PLACED HERE AND PUT US AT RISK, AND THEN OUR HOME VALUES ARE PUT AT RISK. ONE SLIGHT CHANGE COULD ENTER SEVERAL OF THESE HOMES INTO THE FLOODPLAIN AND CAUSE THEM TO BE BOUND TO PAY HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS FOR FLOOD INSURANCE EVERY MONTH AND REMOVE THEIR HOME VALUES. WHEN WE BUILT, WE HAD TO HAVE ADDITIONAL STUDIES DONE BECAUSE OUR HOME SITS SO CLOSE TO THAT. WE HAD TO HAVE ADDITIONAL STUDIES ON TO PROVE THAT OUR HOME WOULD NOT BE AFFECTED BY THE FLOOD ZONE, BUT ONE SLIGHT MISCALCULATION AND SUDDENLY I'M OUT HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS AND MY PROPERTY VALUE GOES TO NOTHING. YOU'LL ALSO HEAR FROM OTHERS TODAY ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS, HOW THIS WILL AFFECT THE GREATER OP SCHNABEL PARK, HOW IT'LL AFFECT THE WILDLIFE IN THE AREA WE BORDER AGAINST THE EDWARDS AQUIFER. WE ARE ALL HERE BECAUSE WE'RE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS, NOT BECAUSE WE'RE ANTI-DEVELOPMENT, NOT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT THE NUISANCE OR WANT PEOPLE BEHIND US, BUT BECAUSE WE CARE FOR ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE, BECAUSE WE CARE FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR CHILDREN AND OUR LIVES AND OURSELVES BECAUSE WE CARE FOR THE INVESTMENTS WE'VE MADE IN OUR PROPERTIES. WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR THESE STUDIES TO BE DONE BEFORE ANY DECISIONS ARE MADE. WE'VE BEEN REPEATEDLY TOLD BY THE DEVELOPER'S, REPRESENTATIVES, WE'LL STUDY THE TRAFFIC LATER. WE'LL STUDY THE SOIL LATER. WE'LL GIVE YOU THE ENGINEERING STUDIES LATER. WE'LL DO ALL THIS LATER. EARLIER IN THIS MEETING, ONE OF YOU MENTIONED THAT THE ZONING STAYS WITH THE LAND, AND ANOTHER PERSON SAID, ONE OF OUR CONCERNS IS THAT, THAT WE COULD CHANGE THE ZONING AND THE PERSON COULD THEN SELL THIS TO AN INVESTOR. THAT WAS WHAT YOU SAID FROM UP HERE. WHAT'S TO CHANGE THAT FROM HAPPENING HERE? WHAT'S TO CHANGE YOU FROM CHANGING THE ZONING SO THAT THEY CAN THEN TURN AROUND AND SELL THE PROPERTY AS IS SIMPLY AS AN INVESTMENT PROPERTY AND KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD FOR US DEVELOP. WE ASK YOU TO TAKE ALL THIS INTO CONSIDERATION, AND IF NOTHING ELSE, IF YOU CAN'T VOTE INTO OPPOSITION TODAY, IF NOTHING ELSE, WE ASK THAT YOU POSTPONE THIS UNTIL FURTHER STUDY IS DONE FOR THE BENEFIT AND THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE. UM, NEXT TO SPEAK IS MR. MARK JABLONSKI. PLEASE DO YOU MIND JUST PULLING UP THAT? HELLO? UH, MY NAME IS MARK JABLONSKI. I'M A PRE-AND RESIDENT, UM, AND I HAVE MORE TO SAY THAN TWO MINUTES, SO I'M JUST GONNA READ FAST. I QUESTIONED THE PUT DESIGNATION. I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY PUTS SURROUNDINGS, UH, PUTS SURROUNDING THE OPI SCHNABEL PARK, ESPECIALLY ONCE TRYING TO SQUEEZE THIS DENSE OF DEVELOPMENT. THE PUT WOULD BE INCONSISTENT WITH SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING ALL AROUND IT. THIS WILL AFFECT PROPERTY VALUES. IF IT EXISTED EIGHT YEARS AGO, I WOULD NOT HAVE MOVED MY FAMILY INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND WHEN WE PLANT TO SELL OR RENT A HOUSE, BUYERS LOOKING FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING, WE'LL BE LESS LIKELY TO BUY IT. ALSO, MOST OF THIS LAND MAY NOT BE DIRECTLY IN THE FLOODPLAIN OR THE RECHARGE ZONE, BUT THIS RUGGED WOODED SLOPE PIECE OF LAND WITH MULTIPLE CLIFFS IS IN ITS TRANSIT TRANSITION ZONE AND SIGNIFICANTLY CONTRIBUTING TO THE AQUIFER, WHICH ALSO MEANS NEGATIVELY AFFECTING THE AQUIFER WITH CHEMI. UH, BUILDING HERE MEANS NEGATIVELY AFFECTING THE AQUIFER, AQUIFER WITH CHEMICALS AND OTHER DEVELOPMENT RESIDUALS FEEDING INTO THE WATER WE ALL DRINK. NOT TO MENTION THE RESIDENTS, WE'LL MOST LIKELY HAVE TO GET FLOOD INSURANCE. IT'S ALSO VERY POSSIBLE THAT THIS LAND IS SERVING AS A NATURAL RETAINING WALL FOR BOTH PRE-AND AND OAK BLUFF AND THAT WITH EXCAVATION AND SIGNIFICANT CHANGES. THE TWO SUBDIVISIONS ARE LOOKING AT NOT ONLY WORSENING OF CURRENT FOUNDATION ISSUES, BUT ALSO LANDSLIDES IN SIMILAR SITUATION AT THE HILLS OF RIVER MISS NEIGHBORHOOD THAT YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD OF, ONE MILE AWAY, UH, ONE MILE AWAY DEALT WITH FOR YEARS, IT LOOKS LIKE OUR HOUSE WILL POTENTIALLY, UM, HAVE A STREET, UM, AND NOT ONE, TWO OR, UH, BUT THREE OR MORE PROPERTIES LOOKING RIGHT BACK AT US BEHIND OUR BACKYARD FENCE. THAT'S NOT HOW SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS ARE BUILT. IF THIS WAS A FLAT LAND, IF TRAFFIC SAFETY WAS A NON-ISSUE, IF THE DRAINAGE DIDN'T TRANSITION INTO THE AQUIFER, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE FOUNDATION ISSUES, IF THE LAND WAS NOT CONNECTED TO THE ISH NAVAL PARK, THIS WILL BE YOUR EVERYDAY DEVELOPMENT SPACE, BUT IT'S NOT. AND DEVELOPING HERE WOULD BE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CASE. SO I'M ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER ALL OF THESE CIRCUMSTANCES AND SERIOUS RISKS THAT AT LEAST SOME OF WHICH IT APPEARS THE ZONING STAFF MAY NOT HAVE BEEN AWARE OF AT THE TIME [02:15:01] WHEN IT MADE ITS INITIAL RECOMMENDATION. THESE RISKS AND FACTS HAVE NOW BEEN BROUGHT TO LIGHT AND GREEN LIGHTING. THE REZONING MEANS ESSENTIALLY GREEN LIGHTING THIS DEVELOPMENT. IT ALSO MEANS GREEN LIGHTING A SPIDER WEB OF CONSEQUENCES THAT ARE LIKELY TO GO SOUTH, NOT JUST FOR THE NEARBY COMMUNITIES, BUT ALSO FOR THE GREATER SAN ANTONIO COMMUNITY. JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE BOUGHT THIS UNDEVELOPABLE PIECE OF LAND AT A SIGNIFICANT DIS SIGNIFICANT DISCOUNT AND IS DETERMINED TO BUILD AT ALL COSTS. BUT EVEN ASIDE FROM THE TOTALITY OF ALL OF THIS, SORRY, SORRY. YOU'VE HIT YOUR TWO MINUTES. JUST GIVE SECOND IF, IF YOU DON'T MIND. UM, ASIDE FROM THE TOTALITY OF ALL OF THIS, IF YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE SLOPES, I DON'T THINK THAT YOU CAN APPROVE THIS SITE PLAN BECAUSE IT'S NUMBERS DON'T SEEM TO BE RIGHT AND THERE'S A REASON WHY PR BEND WAS ONLY BUILT SO FAR TO THE WEST OAK BLUFF WAS BUILT SO FAR TO THE EAST, IT'S MOST LIKELY BECAUSE THIS AREA BETWEEN THOSE TWO SUBDIVISIONS CANNOT BE SAFELY DEVELOPED AND SHOULD NOT BE ZONED FOR DEVELOPMENT AT ALL. OKAY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. NEXT UP I HAVE MR. BRENDAN GIBBONS, AND AFTER THAT I WILL HAVE MR. JOHN ORTIZ. MR. GIBBONS HAS TWO MINUTES. HELLO ZONING COMMISSION MEMBERS. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING US TO GET UP HERE AND SPEAK ABOUT THIS. MY NAME IS BRENDAN GIBBONS. I'M A BOARD MEMBER OF RIVER AIDS SAN ANTONIO, UM, WHICH IS A COMMUNITY STEWARDSHIP BASED GROUP THAT, UH, GETS INTO OUR WATERWAYS AND, AND MOSTLY WORKS ON CLEANING UP TRASH OUT OF THEM, WHICH IS A SPHERE PROBLEM, BUT I'M MOSTLY HERE SPEAKING ON, ON MY OWN BEHALF. AND, UH, I I SPENT EIGHT YEARS AS AN ENVIRONMENTAL JOURNALIST FOR THE SAN ANTONIO EXPRESS NEWS AND THEN FOR THE SAN ANTONIO REPORT COVERING WATER ISSUES. AND THAT'S LED ME TO BE IN THE ROOM FOR A LOT OF INTERVIEWS AND DECISIONS WITH REGULATORS WHERE I'VE LEARNED A LOT ABOUT THE REGULATORY STRUCTURE THAT IS SUPPOSED TO PROTECT OUR AQUIFER FROM THE DEATH BY A THOUSAND CUTS THAT WE ARE EXPERIENCING, UM, FROM LAND USE CHANGES. UH, IN MY CURRENT JOB, I I WORK IN PLACES LIKE CORPUS CHRISTI AND PORT ARTHUR AND WE'RE REALLY BLESSED IN SAN ANTONIO NOT TO HAVE THE EXTREME HEAVY, HEAVY INDUSTRY THAT DISCHARGES MASSES AMOUNTS OF POLLUTION TO OUR WATERWAYS VIA A PIPE OR SOME OTHER POINT SOURCE. BUT OUR REGULATORY STRUCTURE IS NOT VERY WELL SET UP TO DEAL WITH NON-POINT SOURCE, UM, ISSUES, WHICH IN THIS CASE IS OFTEN TO DO WITH LAND USE. UM, AND UNFORTUNATELY THAT TYPE OF DECISION OVER LAND USE FALLS TO A BODY LIKE THIS ONE, AND YOU HAVE SO MANY COMPETING INTERESTS THAT YOU HAVE TO WEIGH, BUT I JUST URGE YOU TO NOT BE APPROVING THESE, UH, HIGHER DENSITY DEVELOPMENTS ON AN IMMEDIATELY UPSTREAM OF THE EDWARDS AQUIFER RECHARGE ZONE ONE ON ITS OWN IS, IS NOT A PROBLEM, BUT WITH, BUT IT'S APPROVED TIME AFTER TIME AND WE ARE SEEING A, A DEGRADATION IN THE WATER QUALITY OF THE EDWARDS AQUIFER THAT'S DUE TO THIS JUST VIA, YOU KNOW, INCREASED PHARMACEUTICALS, PERSONAL CARE PRODUCTS, UM, OILS, FATS, GREASES, UM, ANY, ANYTHING THAT RUNS OFF OF A DEVELOPMENT OR PARKING LOT INTO THE AQUIFER. AND THERE'S JUST NOT A GREAT TEXAS, UM, COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY, EDWARDS AQUIFER AUTHORITY OR SAN ANTONIO WATER SYSTEM STRUCTURE TO PREVENT THIS KIND OF THING FROM HAPPENING. THAT'S WHY YOU SEE PEOPLE LIKE ME AND, AND YOU KNOW, REPRESENTATIVES WITH LIKE GREATER EDWARDS AQUIFER ALLIANCE UP HERE ASKING YOU TO DENY THESE TYPES OF CHANGES. IT'S JUST BECAUSE THIS IS OUR ONLY VENUE TO DEAL WITH AN UNFORTUNATE PROBLEM THAT THE STATE REALLY NEEDS TO ADDRESS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. UM, NEXT WILL BE MR. JOHN ORTIZ, AND THEN AFTER HIM WILL BE MR. NATHAN, UH, GRAVY ORVY. APOLOGIES. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS JOHN ORTIZ. I'M A RESIDENT OF ALAMO FARMSTEADS 9 1 7 1 ROCHELLE CONSCIOUS OF TIME. UM, I JUST WANT TO ECHO WHAT MS. BELLFIELD SAID ON BEHALF OF BEING A RESIDENT OF UH, ALAMO FARMSTEADS, BUT I'M ALSO AN OWNER TOGETHER WITH MY MOM OF THE RESIDENCE AT, UH, 1 0 4 0 2 ELIZABETH COURT, WHICH FALLS RIGHT IN THIS ZONING CHANGE. AND, AND I WANT TO COME BEFORE YOU TODAY TO SAY THAT WHEN WE SOUGHT THIS HOME FOR MY MOM, MUCH CONSIDERATION WAS PLACED IN THE LOCATION THAT IT WAS UP AGAINST THE HILLSIDE, THE GREEN BELT, THE PLANS FOR THE WALKING AND BIKING TROLLS, WHICH NOW EXIST. THE SERENITY AND SIZE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WERE KEY TO US AND SPECIFICALLY TO NOW MY 78 YEAR OLD MOM WHO'S BEEN THERE 16 YEARS, WE DID OUR DUE DILIGENCE AS A FAMILY WITH HER, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ZONING OF THAT AREA AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS WERE CONSIDERED. AND IT DEFINITELY IN IT INFLUENCED OUR DECISION TO BUILD. WE NEVER EXPECTED THAT THERE'D BE THIS CHANGE THAT'S BEING CONSIDERED TODAY. THIS WAS A PERFECT FIT TO BE MY MOTHER'S FOREVER HOME. DUE TO JUST THE AREA OF THE TRAIL SYSTEM, THERE WAS NEVER AN EXPECTATION THAT IT WOULD BE REZONED AS IS BEING PROPOSED. THE NEGATIVE ECOLOGICAL TRAFFIC NOISE, LIGHT FLOODING AND AND POPULATION IMPACT TO THIS AREA WILL BE SIGNIFICANT. NOT ONLY ONCE BUILT, BUT WHILE THE CONSTRUCTION WOULD TAKE PLACE. WE ARE DEEPLY CONCERNED THAT MY MOM'S HEALTH AND THAT OF OTHER RE [02:20:01] RESIDENTS WOULD BE IMPACTED WITH THE NOISE, TRAFFIC, CONGESTION, SAFETY, DUST, AND SO MUCH MORE DURING THE CONSTRUCTION. NOT TO NEGLECT WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE TO THE WILDLIFE IN THAT AREA. THERE'S ALREADY AN ISSUE WITH TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS AND SPEED ON PERU ROAD, THAT PRUDE ROAD, THIS WOULD ONLY INCREASE THAT NEGATIVE IMPACT TRAFFIC FLOW AND BE IMPACTED TREMENDOUSLY AND WE WOULD REQUIRE MAJOR CONSTRUCTION TO FIX IT. THERE'S NO POSITIVE TO THE CURRENT RESIDENTS WHO HAVE INVESTED SO MUCH TO HAVING IT REZONED AND IMPACTED IN SUCH A TREMENDOUS WAY. WE'RE DEFINITELY AGAINST THIS REZONING. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, MS. NATHAN, YOU ARE UP. AND THEN NEXT WOULD BE MS. KRISTEN ROTHSTEIN. AND YOU HAVE, UH, TWO MINUTES, MR. NATHAN. THANK YOU. UM, HELLO COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS NATHAN GRAVY. I'M CURRENTLY SERVING AS TECHNICAL DIRECTOR FOR THE GREATER EDWARD EDWARDS AQUIFER ALLIANCE HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. WE ARE A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION, UH, ADVOCATING FOR THE PROTECTION AND PRESERVATION OF THE GREATER EDWARD EDWARDS AQUIFER AREA. AND TODAY I'M HERE TO VOICE CONCERNS REGARDING THE TOPOGRAPHY, THE WATER QUALITY, AND THE FLOODING CONCERNS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT. UH, KRISTEN, WHO'S ABOUT TO SPEAK AFTER ME, ACTUALLY INVITED US OUT TO OUR PROPERTY TO INVESTIGATE THIS AREA ITSELF AND GET A FIRSTHAND EXPERIENCE ABOUT THE, THE, UM, LANDSCAPE ABOUT IT. AND THERE'S A VERY IMMENSE STEEP SLOPES IN THIS AREA. AND NOTED IN THE PAPERWORK RIGHT NOW, IT'S BEEN NOTED THAT THE A HUNDRED YEAR FLOODPLAIN IS WITHIN ITS JURISDICTION, BUT THERE'S NO DESIGNATION OF STEEP SLOPES. AND THE REASON WHY I'M STRESSING SO MUCH ABOUT STEEP SLOPES IS THAT THAT ACTUALLY WILL IMPACT THE NECK. A THE NET ACREAGE ASSOCIATED WITH A PUD DEVELOPMENT INFLUENCING THE MAXIMUM DENSITY AVAILABLE FOR THE ALLOWED DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THIS AREA. AND, UM, ACTUALLY TALKING TO KRISTEN BEFORE THIS MEETING, WE WERE JUST TOLD THIS MORNING THAT THE REPRESENTATIVE IS AWARE OF SOME SORT OF STEEP SLOPE CLASSIFICATION THAT COULD BE PRESENT ALONG THIS PROPERTY. SO IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT AS WELL. UM, REGARDING WATER QUALITY AND FLOODING IMPACTS, UM, THIS PROPERTY IS, IT'S, IT'S WITHIN THE EDWARDS AQUIFER TRANSITION ZONE. UM, IT'S A THIN STRIP OF LAND THAT BORDERS, UH, TRANSITIONS WITHIN THE RECHARGE ZONE TO THE CONTRIBUTING ZONE, BUT THE TRANSITION ZONE ALSO AIDS IN A WAY OF INFLUENCING RAPID RECHARGE RATES FOR EDWARDS AQUIFER. AND I KNOW PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SAYING THAT IT'S DOWNSTREAM THE RECHARGE ZONE, THIS PROPERLY DIRECTLY ABUTS THE RECHARGE ZONE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE EAST. SO THEREFORE ANY SORT OF NON-POINT SOURCE POLLUTION, UM, SUSPENDED SOLIDS COMING OFF DURING THE CONSTRUCTION AND DURING THIS WHOLE PROCESS WILL GET DIRECTLY IMPACTED INTO THE WATER QUALITY ASSOCIATED WITH THIS RECHARGE ZONE, UH, FLOODING IMPLICATIONS. IT'S ALREADY NOTED THAT THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE BEEN BEEN EXPERIENCING FLOODING EVEN BEFORE THIS DEVELOPMENT, SO JUST PLEASE TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. UM, WE HAVE NEXT MS. KRISTEN ROTHSTEIN. YOU HAVE, UH, FOUR MINUTES AND THEN AFTER HER WOULD BE MR. JUSTIN KIRK. SO, OH, IT'S, YEAH, SO WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT HERE IS THE SLOPE. THIS IS JUST ONE AREA. THERE ARE OTHER AREAS OF THE PROPERTY THAT GET MORE INTENSE WHERE IT'S ALMOST LIKE A CLIFF IN THE, UM, MINI PACKET FOR TODAY'S AGENDA. IF YOU SCROLL DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, WHERE THE STAFF, JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE TOPOGRAPHY, THE PROPERTY DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY ABNORMAL FEATURES SUCH AS SLOPE OR INCURSION IN THE FLOODPLAIN. AS YOU COULD SEE, THAT IS NOT CORRECT. UM, WE HAVE SOME DRONE FOOTAGE RIGHT HERE. IF YOU SCROLL DOWN, UM, ALMA AIRBORNE TOOK SOME, UH, DID A VIRTUAL SURVEY OF THE LAND, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT DARK RED IS WHERE THERE'S A, A SLOPE. SO THE DARKER THE RED, THE STEEPER THE SLOPE. SO THERE IS A STEEP SLOPE ACROSS THE WHOLE PROPERTY. THE, UM, CITY'S UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE DEFINES STEEP SLOPE AS A SLOPE EXCEEDING 15%. AND AN EMAIL FROM THE DEVELOPER THIS MORNING, THEY CONFIRMED THAT THERE WAS ABOUT 3.5 ACRES WITH SLOPE GREATER THAN 15%. SO THE REASON WHY THIS MATTERS IS AS NATHAN UM MENTIONED, THIS GOES INTO THE CALCULATION OF WHAT, OF THE DENSITY. SO AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, THEY HAVE PUT 56 UNITS AND THEY'RE SAYING THAT THAT'S A DENSITY OF 5.08. THAT WOULD BE THE 11.2, THAT'S THE ENTIRE PROPERTY, A HUNDRED PERCENT. SO IF YOU ADJUST TO THE MAX FOR, UM, THE R FIVE PUD, THAT'S [02:25:02] A MAX OF SIX. SO IF YOU DO THE MATH, THEY'RE SAYING THAT THERE'S 1.7 THAT'S UNUSABLE, THAT APPEARS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE, THE SIZE OF THE 100 YEAR FLOODPLAIN. SO IT SEEMS LIKE THEY ARE ACCOUNTING FOR THE ONE THREE YEAR FLOODPLAIN, BUT NOT FOR THE, THE STEEP SLOPE. THEY DID SAY THEY WOULD BUILD AROUND IT, BUT ACCORDING TO THE CITY'S UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, WHICH THERE'S A SCREENSHOT RIGHT THERE, STEEP SLOPES ARE NOT TO BE USED TO DETERMINE NET ACREAGE. SO THEY, THERE'S AN EXAMPLE THERE, UM, OF HOW THAT WORKS. SO BASED ON THE DESCRIPTION OF HOW THAT IS CALCULATED, I'VE DONE THE MATH OVER HERE. SO AS IS, UM, WITH THE 56 UNITS, THAT'S MORE LIKE AN R THREE, WHICH WOULD BE 10 MAXIMUM DENSITY. SO THIS IS, AS ALAMO FARM SETS HAS POINTED OUT, THIS IS WAY DENSER THAN WHAT THEY'RE SAYING. SO IF WE RECALIBRATE THE MATH, YOU'RE LOOKING AT MORE LIKE 29 OR 35 UNITS. SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE HALF OF WHAT THEY'RE SAYING. SO THIS, THIS JUST DOESN'T MEET THE, THE CITY'S UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE 'CAUSE OF THE NEXT. SO THERE'S ALSO BEEN AN ARGUMENT FROM THE DEVELOPER THAT THIS LAND IS CURRENTLY ZONED AS R SIX, SO THEY COULD DEVELOP ON IT BY RIPE, HOWEVER, AND THEY'VE GIVEN NUMBERS, RIGHT? SO 80, WHEN YOU DO THE MATH, WHICH I WON'T WALK THROUGH IT HERE FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, BUT IT'S SOMEWHERE AT A HUNDRED PERCENT IT WOULD BE 76 UNITS. LIKE IF THIS WAS A FLAT PIECE OF LAND, NO FLOOD PLAIN, NO SLOPE, YOU COULD PUT 76 UNITS. HOWEVER, THAT'S NOT THE CASE HERE. THERE IS SLOPE, THERE IS A FLOOD PLAIN, SO IT WOULD BE MORE LIKE 42 UNITS. BUT ALSO BECAUSE OF THAT, THAT SLOPE VARIATION, THE ELEVATION CHANGE HAPPENING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROPERTY, THEY DON'T, THEY NEED THE STREET FLEXIBILITY TO BE ABLE TO BUILD, UM, ANYTHING SO THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO BUILD R SIX. SO HERE IS A, UM, MAP THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US. I I CAN STOP THERE. I'LL JUST TO FINISH MY SENTENCE. THAT WAS A MAP THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US BY THE DEVELOPER, UM, WHERE THEY DID A, A DRAINAGE STUDY AND THIS WAS WHAT THEY PROVIDED TO US AS A RESULT OF THAT. BUT YOU CAN SEE THE, THE SLOPE IS, UM, I MEAN THEY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE SLOPE IS THERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UP NEXT WOULD BE, UM, MR. JUSTIN KIRK. AND YOU HAVE FOUR MINUTES. AND AFTER MR. KIRK, IT'LL BE MR. ROSS. UH, LAUGH HEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. MY POSITION IS THAT OF A RESIDENT WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT, BUT ALSO AS AN ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENTIST, VERY CONCERNED WITH IMPACTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROPOSED PROJECT. I'VE WORKED AS A PROFE, UH, PROFESSIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENTIST FOR OVER 20 YEARS AND MY CONCERNS WITH THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, UH, PROJECT ARE NUMEROUS, BUT I WILL LIMIT MOST OF MY DISCUSSION TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS. FIRST, THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION WOULD BE ON A SEVERE SLOPE HAS BEEN MENTIONED. THERE'S 50 TO 60 FEET OF DROP FROM THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY TO THE WEST AND THERE, AND THIS IS WHERE THE CONSTRUCTION OF HOUSING IS PROPOSED. THERE'S ALSO EVIDENCE THAT THE SLOPE IS UNSTABLE AND HAS SHIFTED OVER THE YEARS. ANY CONSTRUCTION WOULD HAVE TO BE ON THE UNSTABLE SLOPE AND WOULD NEED TO BE VERY HA NEED VERY LARGE RETAINING WALLS. UH, RECENT HISTORIES ASSOCIATED WITH THE RIVER. MISS SUBDIVISION HAS SHOWN THAT THIS CAN BE A PROBLEM AND I'LL SKIP THROUGH THAT DISCUSSION SINCE WE'VE COVERED THAT. I WILL SAY IGNORING THIS POTENTIAL DANGER COULD LEAD TO SIMILAR RESULTS, UH, AS A RIVER MIST SUBDIVISION, BUT ALSO CAUSE FURTHER DESTABILIZATION OF THE BLUFF AND CAUSING EXISTING HOUSING TO SLIP AND DAMAGE FOUNDATION CAUSING TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF REPAIRS FOR NEIGHBORING RESIDENTS. SECOND, THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR GOLDEN CHEEK WARBLER HABITAT TO BE PRESENT WITHIN THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. THE GOLDEN CHEEK WARBLER IS A FEDERALLY LISTED AS ENDANGERED SPECIES PROTECTED BY THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT, A FEDERAL LAW, GOLDEN CHEEK, GOLDEN CHEEK WARBLER HABITAT INCLUDES SLOPED WOODLANDS WITH MATURE ASH, JUNIPER, OR CEDAR IN A NATURAL MIX WITH OAKS, ELMS, AND OTHER HARDWOODS ACCORDING TO TEXAN PARK, TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE DEPARTMENTS. GOLDEN CHEEK WARBLER MANAGEMENT GUIDELINES. THIS DESCRIPTION OF HABITAT MATCHES THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND RAISES ALARMS AS TO WHAT IMPACTS THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WOULD HAVE TO ENDANGERED SPECIES. THE GOLDEN SEA WARBLER IS ENDANGERED PRIMARILY DUE TO HABITAT LAST LOSS THROUGH DEVELOPMENT. [02:30:01] THIRD, THERE ARE REAL CONCERNS ABOUT DRAINAGE AND FLOODING TO NEIGHBORING UH, PROPERTIES THROUGH ALTERATION AND IMPACTS TO THE FLOODPLAIN FROM CONSTRUCTION. AND INCREASED PERVIOUS COVER THE CURRENT SLOPE PROPERTY IS ABSORBING MOST OF THE SURFACE RUNOFF THROUGH VEGETATED SOIL. IF ANY OF THIS IS REMOVED, THERE WOULD BE IMPACTS TO THE FLOODPLAIN AND TO THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES. THERE SEEMS TO BE A LITTLE CONCERN FOR IMPACTS THIS MAY CAUSE THE NEIGHBORS WHO MAY BE FLOODED OR HAVE INSURANCE COSTS BECOME UNAFFORDABLE. FOURTH, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS WITHIN A KARST ENVIRONMENT WITHIN CAR ZONES TWO AND THREE IDENTIFIED FOR CARSON AND MANAGEMENT BY BEXAR COUNTY. KARS ENVIRONMENTS ARE SENSITIVE ENVIRONMENTS AND COULD INCLUDE HABITAT FOR ENDANGERED INVERTEBRATES AND ADDITIONALLY KARST ENVIRONMENTS MEAN RECHARGE FOR OUR EDWARD AQUIFER. SUBJECT PROPERTY IS PARTIALLY WITHIN THE EDWARDS AQUIFER RECHARGE ZONE AND ALL DRAINAGE FROM THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WOULD DRAIN TOWARDS THE RECHARGE ZONE. THERE'S NO BARRIER PREVENTING IMPACTS FROM ADJACENT PROPERTIES TO THE RECHARGE AREAS OF THE AQUIFER. JUST BECAUSE THERE IS A LINE DROPPED ON A MAP A FEW FEET TO THE WEST OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, ANY CONTAMINANTS THAT RUN OFF FROM THE PROPOSED IMPERVIOUS COVER ASSOCIATED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD ENTER THE RECHARGE ZONE AND IMPACT THE WATER QUALITY OF THE AQUIFER. FIFTH, ACCORDING TO THE SURVEY, A SURVEY CONDUCTED IN 1999 BY UTSA'S CENTER FOR ARCHEOLOGICAL RESEARCH. THERE ARE TWO PREHISTORIC SITES USED BY NATIVE AMERICANS WITHIN THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. CASUAL DISMISSAL OF PREHISTORIC SITES SHOULD CAUSE ANY CITY PLANNER TO PAUSE. WHAT DOES IT SAY ABOUT OUR OVERALL PLANNING AND VALUES OF THE CITY TO DISMISS SITES WITH PREVIOUS INDIGENOUS CULTURES THAT OCCUPIED THESE LANDS? SIXTH, THERE ARE HERITAGE AND IMPORTANT TREES WITHIN SUBJECT PROPERTY THAT SHOULD BE PRESERVED. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL ELIMINATE MANY IF NOT ALL OF THESE TREES. CITY TREE PRES PRESERVATION ORDINANCES ADDRESS THIS AND THE CITY OF ORDINANCE, UH, CITY OF SAN ANTONIO SHOULD BE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMPACTS OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT TO THEIR STATED TREE PRESERVATION GOALS. THANK YOU. THANKS. AND THE NEXT SPEAKER, UH, MR. ROSS LOOD. AND THEN HE HAS TWO MINUTES AND THEN AFTER HIM WILL BE MR. GREG HAM. HELLO, MY NAME IS ROSS LAWHEAD. I RESIDE AT 59 75 LOCKHILL ROAD 7 8 2 4 0. I HAVE SERVED AS VOLUNTEER LAND USE ATTORNEY FOR THE OAKLAND ESTATES NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION SINCE 1997, WORKING TO MAINTAIN EXISTING R SIX ZONING FOR PRU ROAD OAKLAND ESTATES ADJOINS, UH, PRU ROAD, UH, AND IT IS TO THE EAST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. OAKLAND ESTATES WAS THE FIRST NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE AREA ESTABLISHED IN 1926. I SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED UPZONING FROM THE EXISTING R SIX. NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS ADJOINING PRE ROAD ARE COMMITTED TO MAINTAINING EXISTING R SIX ZONING ALONG PRE THIS HAS BEEN REEMPHASIZED AS RECENTLY AS SEPTEMBER, 2021 BY THE JOINT OPPOSITION OF THE ASSOCIATIONS FOR ALAMO FARMSTEADS OAKLAND ESTATES, WOODRIDGE, WOODRIDGE VILLAGE, JADE OAKS, AND WOODS OF PROVIDENCE TO A PROPOSED REZONING TO MORE INTENSE RESIDENTIAL ZONING THAN R SIX, R FIVE AND R SIX ZONING IS CHARACTERISTIC OF PRU ALL THE WAY FROM I 10 TO BABCOCK AND THEN WEST AS IT BECOMES BROWN ALL THE WAY TO 1604 DEVIATING ONLY AT COMMERCIAL NODES. THE ONLY EXCEPTION IS THE POCKET TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT ADJOINING WOODRIDGE VILLAGE, WHICH WAS BASED UPON ANOMALOUS ZONING DATING TO ANNEXATION IN 1974. LATER DOWN ZONING WAS POLITICALLY INFEASIBLE, SO THIS WAS RECENTLY BUILT. THAT INCONSISTENT DEVELOPMENT IS LIMITED TO 12 TOTAL DWELLING UNITS OF TOWNHOUSES. STAFF MAY TAKE THE VIEW THAT R FIVE PUD ZONING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE AREA PLAN AND A PROPER USE OF THE PROPERTY, BUT WE DISAGREE THE GREATER PROPER PART OF THIS PROPERTY IS UNBUILDABLE WITH THE RESULT THAT 56 TOWNHOUSE UNITS ARE BEING SHOEHORNED INTO ABOUT FOUR ACRES. EFFECTIVELY. R ONE 1200 SQUARE FOOT LOTS ARE DISCLOSED AS PERMITTED DOING THIS BY MEANS OF PUD. WE DO NOT WANNA SEE THIS AT HENER CREEK FARTHER TO THE EAST. WE THEREFORE OPPOSE THE PENDING REQUEST. THERE ARE MANY ADDITIONAL REASONS TO OPPOSE THIS REQUEST AS DEVELOPED IN URGE BY JOINING ASSOCIATIONS, BUT WE WISH TO HIGHLIGHT THAT ALTHOUGH WE DO NOT ADJOIN PRE-AND BUT WERE ADAMANTLY OPPOSED TO ESTABLISHING A PRECEDENT OF ABANDONING ANY EXISTING R SIX ZONING ON PRE. THANK YOU. NEXT, MR. UH, GREG. I BELIEVE IT'S GREG HAM OR GREG HANE. SORRY. AND THEN AFTER HIM WE'LL BE MR. MARK. DEL DEL TOWARD. [02:35:05] OKAY, GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. UH, I'LL TRY AND BE BRIEF. UH, YOU'VE HEARD SOME AMAZING, UM, FACTS AND INFORMATION ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT AND WHY IT SHOULD NOT GO THROUGH. AND AS A MEMBER OF THE ZONING COMMITTEE AND, UH, SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF OUR BOARD AND OUR SIR, IF YOU COULD MOVE A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE MIC. SORRY ABOUT THAT. OKAY. UM, MY NAME IS GREG HEEN. I RESIDE AT 1 0 3 2 8 LOST BLUFF. AND UH, I'M GONNA ADDRESS A COUPLE PERSONAL, UH, FEELINGS I HAVE TOWARDS THIS DEVELOPMENT VERSUS WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD ON A LARGER SCALE. UM, THE MAP YOU'RE CURRENTLY LOOKING AT, AND I'M GONNA ASK THE GENTLEMAN HERE TO BRING UP THE OTHER ONE THAT ACTUALLY SHOWS WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT WILL BE BUILT. UM, POINTER, THANK YOU. RIGHT HERE IS A 15 FOOT ROAD THAT WILL BUTT UP AGAINST ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON LOST BLUFF HERE. WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS THAT 15 FOOT SPACE WILL CONSIST OF A DRIVEWAY FOR ALL THE RESIDENTS IN THIS AREA. YOU'LL HAVE TWO FENCES SEPARATING THE TWO. WHAT TYPICALLY HAPPENS IN THAT IS YOU HAVE TRASH THAT TENDS TO COME FROM THE NEWER DEVELOPMENT. WE'VE EXPERIENCED THIS AT A, UH, MY GRANDDAUGHTER'S SCHOOL WHERE AN APARTMENT COMPLEX WAS BUILT RIGHT NEXT TO IT AND THE TRASH ACCUMULATED WITHIN THE AREA NEXT TO THE SCHOOL FENCE THAT CAUSES A NUMBER OF POLLUTION ISSUES AND FIRE PROBLEMS. SO WHAT HAPPENS IF WE HAVE TO HAVE FIRE ACCESS BACK HERE FOR PROBLEMS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL AS THE DEVELOPMENT THAT THE DEVELOPER SAYS THEY'RE TRYING TO PROTECT? ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THE 35 FOOT, UM, HEIGHT REQUIREMENT, WHICH WE KNOW INCLUDES THE GARAGE AREA. BUT WHAT ABOUT FOUNDATION? ALL RIGHT, SIR. THANK, THANK YOU. OKAY, THANKS MR. MARK. UH, DELTOR. BELIEVE DEL TORO, I APOLOGIZE. LOOKED LIKE A D AND THEN AFTER MR. DEL TORO, IT'LL BE MS. STACY ARRINGTON. CAN I HAVE THE SLIDE THAT'S BLACK, WHITE? IT WAS LIKE THAT ONE, BUT IT SHOWS THAT'S ALREADY THERE. IT SHOWS THE UNIT'S ALREADY THERE. AND, UH, MR. DELTORO, YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES? YES MA'AM. THANK YOU. YES MA'AM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS MARK DELTORO. I REPRESENT OAK BLUFF ASSOCIATION. I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT. I'VE BEEN LIVING IN OAK BLUFF FOR 16 YEARS AND I HAVE LISTENED TO ALL EVERYBODY'S STATEMENTS AND EVERYTHING THAT I GET. I'VE BEEN WATCHING EVERYTHING ALL DAY AND THIS IS THE BEST PLAN AS FAR AS HOW EVERYTHING'S GONNA LOOK THAT THIS DEVELOPER HAS SHOWN THAT HAVE NOT SHOWN US ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FOUNDATION'S GONNA LOOK LIKE. WE DON'T KNOW. THEY, THEY'VE SHOWED US A, A RENDERING OF A DUPLEX THAT SAYS THIS IS THE MATERIAL. SO KIND OF FIGURE IT OUT HOW IT'S GONNA LOOK. AND MY RESIDENTS ARE SCARED OF THIS BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING TO DO. WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GONNA DEVELOP LIKE THAT OR THEY'RE GONNA SELL IT ONCE IT GETS REZONED. WE JUST WANT ANSWERS. AND THEY KEEP SAYING, WELL, WE'VE GIVEN YOU ANSWERS. NO YOU HAVEN'T. YOU'VE JUST GIVEN US SOME IDEAS AND THIS IS NOT ADEQUATE TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION TO GET ON BOARD. 'CAUSE WE WOULD LOVE TO GET ON BOARD, BUT WE CANNOT BECAUSE THIS IS JUST UNKNOWN. AND WITH THE SLOPES AND EVERYTHING, I MEAN, YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY HEARD IT OVER AND OVER AND OVER. EVERYBODY I LIVE AT DID I SAY WHERE I LIVE, TEN TWO ONE SIX, LOST BLUFF. I'M RIGHT BEHIND THIS THING AND THE SLOPES, MY YARD HAS GONE DOWN INTO IT. I'VE LOST SO MUCH PROPERTY BECAUSE OF THIS SLOPING, THIS IS JUST A, A BIG RIVER MISS 2.0 WAITING TO HAPPEN. AND THAT'S WHAT SCARES MOST OF US. AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE THAT WAS PRIVATE [02:40:01] PROPERTY. THEY THOUGHT IT WAS THE PARK ALL ALONG AND THEY WERE ALWAYS TRESPASSING AND THEY'RE LIKE, OH MY GOD, I'VE BEEN TRESPASSING THIS WHOLE TIME. SO WE, WE HAD JUST OPPOSED OAK BLUFF OPPOSES THIS DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE WE FEEL LIKE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A PART TO BEGIN WITH. AND THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. IT SHOULD BE A PART, NOT MORE HOMES TO MAKE MORE TRAFFIC AND POSSIBLY KILL SOMEBODY ON DEAD MAN'S CURBS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, MISS STACEY ARRINGTON. UM, MS. ARRINGTON, YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES AND THEN AFTER MS. ARRINGTON, IT'LL BE MR. ANDREW CRAIG. MY NAME IS STACEY ARRINGTON. I LIVE AT 1 0 3 5 0 ELIZABETH COURT AND I'M, WE ARE IN THE 200 FOOT AFFECTED ZONE HERE. UM, I HAVE THOUGHT, UH, MANY THOUGHTS ABOUT, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE I HIGHLIGHT THIS ONE IN CON IN CON. UM, IN PARTICULAR, UM, ERICS A 26 YEAR LE ADVANCED COLLISION RECONSTRUCTIONIST WITH THE BEXAR COUNTY RESIDENT. UM, HE IS ALSO IN THE 200 FOOT ZONE AND HE WAS GONNA TALK ABOUT THIS TRAFFIC AND HIS OPPOSITION MESSAGE WHEN HE TRIED TO LEAVE A MESSAGE THIS MORNING TWO TIMES HE WAS CUT OFF AFTER 10 SECONDS. THE THIRD TIME HE WAS ABLE TO LEAVE A BRIEF MESSAGE, BUT ONLY TO THE WORD OPPOSITION AND THEN IT CUT OFF AGAIN, NOT EVEN CLOSE TO A MINUTE. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO READ HIS NOTES. UM, HE HAD SENT TO ME, UM, I'VE BEEN A LAW OFFICER, UM, FOR 26 YEARS NOW. I'M ALSO AN ADVANCED COLLISION RESECTIONIST. I STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT THIS PLOT OF LAND COULD BE UTILIZED FOR MUCH GREATER PURPOSES THAN ANOTHER CROWDED HOUSING DEVELOPMENT. THE PLANNED ENTRANCE EXIT OF THIS PROPOSED SUBDIVISION ON A DOWNHILL CURVE IS NOTHING SHORT OF A DISASTER IN THE MAKING. I HAVE LIVED IN THE OAK BLUFF SUBDIVISION FOR APPROXIMATELY 12 YEARS AND HAVE HAD TO SIT IN LONG PERIODS OF TIME ATTEMPTING TO EXIT OR ENTER THE SUBDIVISION DUE TO ITS CURRENT TRAFFIC CONGESTION. AND THE ADDITION OF THIS ADDITIONAL SUBDIVISION WILL ADD A MINIMUM OF A HUNDRED VEHICLES TRAVELING DOWN PRE ROAD DURING PEAK TIMES. I GREATLY APPRECIATE THE, UM, THE ZONING COMMISSION TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THESE EXAMPLES I HAVE GIVEN YOU AND WE VOTE NO TO, UM, THIS REQUEST AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. ADDITIONALLY, UM, I'M A WIFE AND A MOTHER. I HAVE THREE BOYS, WHICH GREW UP ON THESE TRAILS AND THE OUTDOORS, OFOP STAPLE PARK AND THE WOODED 11 ACRES BEHIND OUR HOME. WE HAVE BEEN RESIDENTS OF PROVEN SINCE MOVING HERE FROM HOUSTON. IT'S A CEMENT CITY 13 YEARS AGO FROM, UM, 13 YEARS AGO AND LIVE ALREADY SAID THAT. UM, FIRST OF ALL, LET ME SAY, I'VE NEVER GOTTEN INVOLVED IN ANYTHING LIKE THIS, BUT I'VE REALLY APPRECIATED THIS PROCESS. IT'S BEEN REALLY NEAT WORKING WITH OUR TEAM AND, UM, GETTING THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS OUR CURRENT CONCERNS. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. THERE'S MUCH MORE, BUT THAT'S IT. SO THANKS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MS. ARRINGTON. UM, LAST UH, BUT NOT LEAST IS MR. ANDREW CRAIG. GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU. UM, MY NAME'S ANDREW CRAIG. I'M A, A RESIDENT OF PROVE BEND AT 1 0 2 1 0 ELIZABETH COURT. I'M A, SO I UNDERSTAND SAY STAFF HAS APPROVED THIS, BUT I THINK THEY, IT'S BASED ON A MISREADING OF SOME MATERIAL FACTS THAT AS HAS BEEN MENTIONED, THIS AREA DOES HAVE A, A VERY STEEP SLOPE, BUT ALSO THE SAY STAFF, NO, THEY, IT'S CONGRUENT WITH THE 2009 HEBNER LEON CREEK PLAN. I BELIEVE IT IS NOT. THAT PLAN SHOWS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL THROUGHOUT THE PRUE BABCOCK, HEBNER BANDERA CORRIDOR. THIS, WHILE IT MIGHT BE REQUESTING R FIVE PUD IS NOT IN THE SPIRIT OF R FIVE PUD. THE EFFECTIVE DENSITY IS MUCH CLOSER TO R ONE OR R TWO. I MEAN, IT'S AVERAGES CAN BE DECEIVING, SO THE AVERAGE MIGHT BE LIKE AN R FIVE NUMBER OF HOMES PER ACRE, BUT THE DISTRIBUTION IS NOT. EVERYTHING GETS SHOEHORNED IN VERY CLOSE TO EXISTING HOMES. EXISTING HOMES ARE GOING TO SEE TWO TO THREE HOUSES LOOKING OVER THEIR BACK FENCE. PR BEND BEING ON THE DOWNHILL SIDE IS GOING TO HAVE HOMES THAT ARE MAYBE TWO TO TWO AND A HALF STORIES WITH A BASE OF FIVE TO 10 FEET ELEVATION GAIN LOOKING DOWN INTO THEIR BACKYARDS. IT'S A TREMENDOUS LOSS OF PRIVACY. WE WERE CONCERNED THAT THAT'S GOING TO MATERIALLY AFFECT IT. PROPERTY VALUES FOR NEIGHBORHOODS ON BOTH SIDES. WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE TRAFFIC PATTERN THAT THE AUTUMN BLUFF ENTRANCE, WHICH YOU CAN SEE IN THE TOP CORNER OF THE MAP, WAS CLOSED DUE TO REGULAR ACCIDENTS AND FATALITIES OF DRIVERS MOVING DOWNHILL ON PRU ROAD HEADED EAST. THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD PUT ITS ENTRANCE RIGHT AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT DOWNHILL SLOPE WHEN VEHICLES ARE AT THEIR MAXIMUM SPEED AND EXECUTE A A CUTBACK IN, EVEN IF IT THERE'S A DECELERATION LANE, THERE'S STILL GOING TO BE IMPACT [02:45:01] FROM CARS MOVING DOWNHILL AT SPEED, SLOWING DOWN. IT'S GOING TO ADD MATERIAL, UM, TRAFFIC TO OUR DIFFICULTY PULLING OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. OAK BLUFF HAS SIMILAR CONCERNS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. AND NOW WE HAVE VOICEMAILS? YES SIR. WE HAVE 21 VOICEMAILS. ALRIGHT, THEY GOT THREE MINUTES. MY NAME IS BARBARA MOS, 1 0 1 1 5 P CREST 7 8 2 4 0 2 1 0 2 4 1 3 1 0 1. I AM CALLING IN OPPOSITION TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON TRU ROAD, UM, AFTER PARKWOOD. THE CASE NUMBER IS Z 2 0 3 2 1 0 7 0 0 9 4. TRUE ROAD IS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS AS IT IS MORE TRAFFIC IS ONLY GOING TO ADD TO THE PROBLEM. IN ADDITION, I DO NOT BELIEVE THE SUBDIVISION WILL BE BENEFICIAL TO THE GREENWAY THAT IT ABUTS AND I WOULD LIKE YOU ALL TO CONSIDER NOT APPROVING THE DEVELOPMENTS ON PRU ROAD. THANK YOU. HELLO, MY NAME IS BRUCE. I AM AT, UH, 1 0 3 1 5 ELIZABETH COURT IN THE PRU BEND, UH, SUBDIVISION. MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 269-6510. I'M CALLING TO VOICE MY CONCERN ABOUT THE ZONING CHANGE FOR THE 7500TH BLOCK OF PRU ROAD. AND, UM, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THIS BECAUSE OF THE, UM, INCREASED RISK OF FLOODING THAT THAT COULD BRING, WHICH COULD DRIVE A LOT OF THE HOMES IN SUBDIVISION INTO A, UM, SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD AREA. UH, THUS REQUIRING, UM, MOST OF THE RESIDENTS THERE TO GET FLOOD INSURANCE AS A CONDITION OF THEIR MORTGAGE. THIS COULD INCREASE ANNUAL, UM, EXPENSES BY ABOUT, UM, ANYWHERE FROM A THOUSAND DOLLARS TO $3,000. UH, DEPENDING ON THE LOCATION AND THE UM, AMOUNT OF COVERAGE, UM, THIS COULD END UP TURNING OVER THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, REDUCING PROPERTY VALUES AND UM, BASICALLY CAUSING A LOT OF, UH, RESIDENTS TO MOVE OUT. AND QUITE FRANKLY, I LIKE MY NEIGHBORS. UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND HAVE A GOOD DAY. BYE-BYE. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS CHARLES BLANK. I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF RIVER AID SAN ANTONIO, AND TODAY I'M SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION OF THE ZONING CHANGE FOR CASE 1 0 7 0 0 1 9 4. WE CANNOT CONTINUE. HI, MY NAME IS CHARLOTTE BALDWIN AND I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO THE 7,500 BLOCK OF PRU ROAD, UH, REZONING MEETING. UH, I LIVE AT SEVEN THREE TWO SIX ELIZABETH WAY. MY PHONE NUMBER IS (254) 717-5106. AND I'M CALLING WITH THE CONCERNS OF THE REZONING OF THIS AREA BASICALLY TO DUE TO THE IMPACT TO THE EXISTING, UH, COMMUNITIES ON EACH SIDE OF THIS, UH, RENOVATION, UH, REZONING AREA. MY CONCERN IS THE INCREASE OF NOISE, TRAFFIC SAFETY AND THE EDWARDS AQUIFER RECHARGE ZONE, REMOVING THE NATURAL, UM, LAND AND, UH, THE NATURAL FILTRATION WITHIN THIS AREA COULD BE IMPACT POTENTIAL IMPACTS TO SURFACE WATER RUNOFF AND STORM WATER RUNOFF WITHIN THE EDWARD AQUIFER ZONE. UM, THE NO DEVELOPMENT OPTION WOULD BE WHAT I WOULD PREFER, UH, BEING A NEW RESIDENT AND PROVE END AND ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMPACT, THE LONG-TERM IMPACT TO THE COMMUNITIES. UM, THIS, THIS PARTICULAR REZONING LEAVES IT OPEN-ENDED FOR ANY TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT TO GO IN BETWEEN THE TWO, UM, COMMUNITIES. AND WITH THAT, I DON'T THINK THERE'S BEEN ENOUGH STUDIES TO LOOK AT IF EVEN THE LAND SHOULD EVER EVEN BE CONSIDERED TO BE DEVELOPED LEAVING THE NATURAL LANDSCAPE WILL BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY AND THE COMMUNITIES TO HELP WITH THE, UH, OBTAINING A GREEN BELT, OBTAINING, UH, A CARBON SINK ZONE, UH, AND ALSO NATURAL FILTRATION TO ASSURE THAT THE STORM WATER IS, UM, NOT IMPACTING, UM, THE EDWARDS AQUIFER ZONE. UH, THIS IS MY CONCERN. UH, [02:50:01] I HOPE THAT THE UM, REZONING COMMITTEE LOOKS AT THIS AS NOT CHANGING THE CURRENT ZONING AND TABLING IT TO DO MORE RESEARCH TO SEE IF THE ERIC IL 1 0 3 0 8 LOST BLUFF ZONING NUMBER Z 2 0 2 2 0 7 0 0 1 9 4. I'M CALLING TO MY OPPOSITION FOR THE ZONING REQUEST. I'VE ATTEMPTED THREE TIMES TO LEAVE A MESSAGE, BUT I KEEP GETTING HUNG UP ON. UH, WE'LL TRY THIS AGAIN. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE, AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME A FEW. HELLO, ESTHER MARTINEZ, 1 0 3 2 8, LOST BLUFF SAN ANTONIO, SEVEN EIGHT TWO FOUR ZERO. MY PHONE (210) 621-4942. AND I'M CALLING IN OPPOSITION OF CASE 1 9 4. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS GRACE JABLONSKI AND I LIVE IN PERIN. I'M CALLING TO EXPRESS MY OPPOSITION TO THE REZONING CASE Z DASH 2 0 2 2 1 0 7 0 0 1 9 4 75 0 0 BLOCK UP PER ROAD. I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENTS OR MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING SURROUNDING THE OPI SCHNABEL PARK, SO THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE INCONSISTENT WITH NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES. WE BOUGHT OUR SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE SO THAT OUR KIDS COULD GROW UP IN AND AMONG SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING. THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT LAND IS AN DENSELY WOODED, SLOPED HILL AND NOT A FAT FLAT PIECE OF LAND LIKE WHAT IT MAY LOOK LIKE ON THE DEVELOPER'S SITE PLAN. THIS LAND SERVES AS A KEY DRAINAGE SOURCE FOR NEIGHBORING SUBDIVISIONS AND CURRENT DRAINAGE WOULD MOST LIKELY BE MADE WORSE BY MORE PAVED SURFACES AND BUILDINGS AROUND. IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT TO DEVELOP THIS LAND WITHOUT SIGNIFICANT GRADING AND EXCAVATION, RESULTING IN POTENTIALLY NEGATIVE CHANGES TO EROSION AND DRAINAGE PATTERNS CAUSING LIKELY FLOODING AND AFFECTING SURROUNDING WATERWAYS. LIKE THE LEON CREEK FLOOD INSURANCE IS NOT CHEAP AND OUR HOUSE ALREADY HAS FOUNDATION PROBLEMS THAT COULD ONLY BE MADE WORSE. TRAFFICKED IMPACT IS ALSO A MAJOR CONCERN. THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE LOCATED AMONG ALONG THE SHARPEST PART OF THE INFAMOUS BEND IN THE PRU ROAD, RESPONSIBLE FOR MULTIPLE ACCIDENTS OVER THE YEARS, BOTH RIGHT AND LEFT TURNS INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ARE VERY DIFFICULT. AND A SIMILAR RIGHT TURN INTO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BEND IN PRU ROAD WOULD BE EVEN HARDER AND MORE DANGEROUS, ESPECIALLY DURING RUSH HOUR AND WHAT IS ALREADY A VERY CONGESTED AND DANGEROUS PIECE OF PRU ROAD. ON THE DAY WE MOVED INTO OUR HOUSE, THERE WAS AN ACCIDENT AT THE ENTRANCE TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD EVERY MORNING I LEAVE EXTRA EARLY FOR WORK FOR THIS EXACT REASON MY IN-LAWS ARE EVEN RELUCTANT TO VISIT BECAUSE OF THIS AND ALSO REFUSE TO TRAVEL HERE WITH OUR KIDS IN THEIR VEHICLES. WE BOUGHT OUR HOUSE LIKE MANY OF OUR NEIGHBORS BECAUSE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS SURROUNDED BY GREEN SPACE, WHICH IS WHERE WE WANTED OUR KIDS TO GROW UP AND PLAY. WE WERE ALL CONVINCED THIS LAND WAS A PART OF THE SNI PARK OR THE GREENWAY WITHOUT ANY TRESPASSING SIGNS, FENCING OR LABELS IMPLYING. HI, MY NAME IS HUNTER WARREN, UH, 3 1 7 LEXINGTON AVENUE LEAVING A MESSAGE REGARDING THE 7,500 BLOCK OF PRU ROAD REZONING CASE. UM, MY PHONE NUMBER IS (512) 557-5032. SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A LITTLE CONTEXT. I GREW UP IN THE AREA AND I HAVE BEEN HIKING AT THIS SPOT FOR 20 YEARS. I JUST FOUND OUT IT WAS PRIVATE PROPERTY A FEW MONTHS AGO. UM, AND I OPPOSE THIS REZONING FOR THE SAME REASON THAT, UH, PROBABLY SOME OTHER PEOPLE DO. UH, IT'S NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA, IT'S NOT GONNA BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY. IT'S GOING TO CAUSE MORE EROSION PROBLEMS IN LEON CREEK. UM, NO MATTER WHAT THE ENGINEERS SAY, UH, IT'LL BE DEVASTATING FOR PEOPLE WHO USE THE PARK AND THE NEIGHBORS. UM, CREW ROAD IS ALREADY DANGEROUS. I WENT TO VISIT THIS SITE YESTERDAY AND SAW A KID ALMOST GET HIT BY A CAR TRYING TO CROSS CREW. UM, AND I'M JUST CURIOUS WHY THE DEVELOPER NEEDS THIS REZONING WHEN THEY KNEW THE CURRENT ZONING WHEN THEY BOUGHT IT AND STILL WANTED TO PURCHASE IT. THIS IS NOT JUST SOME EMPTY LOT, IT'S A REALLY NICE PIECE OF LAND CONNECTED TO MORE UNDEVELOPED NATURAL GREEN SPACE LOCATED IN BETWEEN TWO REGULAR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS. THE CURRENT ZONING IS FAR MORE APPROPRIATE THAN WHAT THIS DEVELOPER IS TRYING TO BUILD. IF FOLKS ON THE ZONING COMMISSION HAVEN'T SEEN THIS PROPERTY, PLEASE GO SEE IT IN PERSON, UH, FOR ONE TO APPRECIATE JUST HOW COOL AND BEAUTIFUL THE TERRAIN OF THE SITE IS. BUT ALSO YOU'LL UNDERSTAND JUST HOW MUCH IS GONNA NEED TO CHANGE TO BE ABLE TO BUILD ANYTHING ON THIS LAND. IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY ALTERED TO ACCOMMODATE ANY DEVELOPMENT, ESPECIALLY AT THE DENSITY THAT THEY WISH FOR. AND THAT'S GONNA BE A SHOCK TO THE COMMUNITY. THE SIDE OF IT IS GOING TO SADDEN PARK GOERS AND NEARBY REST, UH, RESIDENTS AND POSSIBLY AFFECT THEIR PROPERTY VALUES PERMANENTLY. UM, THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE. [02:55:01] GOOD MORNING. THIS IS JACK THOMPSON FROM 1 0 2 1 2 LOST BLUFF, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 4 0. CALLING ON BEHALF OF CASE NUMBER 1 9 4. UM, JUST CALLING TO STATE MY, UH, OPPOSITION TO THE NEW DEVELOPMENT. UM, IT'S, UH, HI, MY NAME IS JEFF TURNER. I LIVE AT 3 6 1 0 ROCK CREEK RUN, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 3 0 AND I'M CALLING TO VOICE MY OPPOSITION FOR THE REZONING ON 7,500 BLOCK OF CREW ROAD. I DON'T THINK ADDING HIGH DENSITY OR EVEN UH, DEVELOPMENTS TO THAT LAND WOULD ADD VALUE TO THE CITY AND TO THE CITIZENS. I THINK THAT LAND IS, IS BEST USED AS A PARK AND NATURE AREA. I WOULD, I'D LOVE TO SEE IT CONTINUE THAT WAY. THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY, UH, REQUEST FOR OPPOSE THIS, UH, REZONING OF 7,500 BLOCK OF CREW ROAD. THIS IS JEFF TURNER. I'M AT 3 6 1 0 ROCK CREEK RUN, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 3 0. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. HI, MY NAME IS JOEL. I LIVE AT ONE ZERO THREE ZERO TWO ELIZABETH COURT, PHONE NUMBER TWO OH NINE ONE THREE THREE THREE TWO SIX. CALLING IN REFERENCE TO ZONING CASE THAT ENDS IN 1 9 4. UM, I'M CALLING IN OPPOSITION, UH, TO THE ZONING, THE P U D R FIVE ZONING. IT IS CURRENTLY R SIX. REASONS FOR THAT ARE, UM, WE HAVE NOT HAD ENOUGH INFORMATION. HELLO, MY NAME IS MARK SMITH AND MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 378-4783. I'M CALLING ABOUT CASE NUMBER Z DASH 2022 DASH 1 0 7 0 0 1 9 4. AGAIN, THIS IS MARK SMITH, 2 1 0 3 7 8 4 7 8 3 ABOUT CASE NUMBER Z DASH 2022 DASH 0 7 0 0 1 9 4. THE REASON I'M CALLING IS ABOUT THEY'RE BUILDING A, UM, UH, A SUITE OF, OF, UH, CONDOMINIUMS RIGHT BESIDE MY SUBDIVISION AT PROVE BEND. I LIVE IN, UM, UH, PROVE END SUBDIVISION AND, UM, RIGHT BESIDE US THERE, THERE RIGHT BEHIND US IS A A, A GREENBELT AREA. AND OUR CONCERN IS, MY CONCERN IS, IS THAT THESE APARTMENTS, BUILDINGS ARE BEING BUILT SO CLOSE TO THE HOUSES ON THE OUTLYING PART OF THE PROPERTY. AND THERE'S, THERE'S POTENTIAL DRAINAGE CONCERNS THERE FROM THE PLANS THAT I'VE SEEN. THERE'S ALSO CONCERNS THAT WILL AND AND CRINGE ON THE ACTUAL GREEN BELT THAT WE HAVE. AND, UM, AND ALSO THERE'S, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE WILDLIFE. UM, THERE'S MUCH DEER, UH, ALL, ALL VARIETY OF WILDLIFE IN THAT AREA AND, UM, IT'S BEEN LIKE A HAVEN FOR THEM. IT'S, IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN WONDERFUL FOR PEOPLE IN THE, IN THE AREA TO WALK THROUGH THE TRAILS AND SEE THE WILDLIFE AND SO, UM, I'M DEFINITELY CONCERNED ABOUT HOW THIS CAN IMPACT THEM. AND UM, ALSO THERE'S JUST THE TRAFFIC. IT'S A TWO LANE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD. THERE'S A MEDIAN DIVIDING THE TWO LANES. UM, I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT THIS WILL INCREASE TRAFFIC, UM, SUBSTANTIALLY MORE. UM, AND I UNDERSTAND THERE'S NOT EVEN A TURNING LANE INTO IT FROM, UM, IF YOU'RE COMING UP THE HILL, UH, GOING NORTH ON CREW AND TURNING INTO THE, UM, APARTMENT COMPLEX. SO, UM, AND, AND AS IT IS, THE ROADS ARE PRETTY AWFUL CURRENTLY THE CONDITION AND THIS WOULD ONLY WORSEN THEIR CONDITION WITH ALL THE TRAFFIC. SO, UM, THAT'S ANOTHER. HI, MY NAME IS MARY MARJORIE CORLEY AND I'M THE OWNER OF THE HOME AT 1 0 4 1 4 ELIZABETH COURT, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS. MY PHONE NUMBER IS (301) 788-4453. I'M CALLING IN RESPONSE TO REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FOR THE ZONING CASE NUMBER Z 2 MILLION 22 1 0 7 0 1 9 4. I AM NOT IN AGREEMENT WITH ANY ZONING CHANGE, ESPECIALLY SINCE VERY LITTLE HAS BEEN STUDIED OR CONCERNS ADDRESSED ABOUT HOW BUILDING MORE HOMES AND ROADS WILL AFFECT THOSE ALREADY IN THE AREA. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT ADDED TRAFFIC TO THE ALREADY OVERLOADED ROADS. I'M ESPECIALLY CONCERNED ABOUT DRAINAGE WATER RUNOFF FLOODING FROM THE CHANGES IN VEGETATION AND THE LAND USE. THERE ARE ALREADY PROBLEMS IN OUR DEVELOPMENT. I'VE HEARD IN OTHER DEVELOPMENTS IN THE AREA WITH FOUNDATIONS HAVING TO BE REDONE SMALL [03:00:01] CRACKS AND TILES, FLOORS, UM, AND WALLS IN MY NEIGHBOR'S HOMES AND THEY'RE JUST STARTING IN MINE. THE CHANGES THAT CAN BE CAUSED BY THE GROUND HERE BEING FULL OF CLAY CAN BE EASILY AFFECTED BY HAVING MORE BUILDING DONE WITHOUT THOUGHT. PLEASE DO NOT ALLOW SOMEONE TO POSSIBLY RUIN THE HOMES ALREADY HERE AND POSSIBLY THOSE BEING BUILT WITH LITTLE THOUGHT AND PLANNING. THANK YOU. BYE. MY NAME IS MELANIE PRICE CARROLL AND I LIVE AT 1 0 3 1 4 ELIZABETH COURT AT . MY PHONE NUMBER (801) 814-5048. I AM CALLING IN OPPOSITION OF CASE NUMBER, UH, Z 2020 2 1 0 7 0 0 1 9 4 FOR THE FOLLOWING. THE HILL DESCENT ON THROUGHAND IS BLIND AND WINDING DRIVERS DRIVE WAY TOO FAST WITHIN THE SPEED LIMIT THEN HERE AND IT BECOMES SLIPPERY IN RAIN AND IT HAS RESULTED IN MULTIPLE VEHICULAR CRASHES PROMPTING A SEPARATE ENTRANCE OF OAKBROOK COMMUNITY AT THE STREET OF AUTUMN BLUFF THAT HAS BEEN BLOCKED OUT PERMANENTLY DUE TO A PREVIOUS VEHICULAR CRASH AT THIS SITE. THIS IS LOCATED DIRECTLY, UH, RIGHT BEFORE THE PROPOSED RIGHT HAND DECELERATION ENTRANCE THAT WOULD BE BUILT FOR THE PROPOSED COMMUNITY. UH, WE'RE CONCERNED THAT THIS RIGHT HAND TURN INTO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT FOR THE EXIT OR ENTRANCE WOULD NOT BE A SAFE ADDITION GIVEN THE TRAFFIC HISTORY. THERE'S ALSO BEEN MULTIPLE CRASHES, MOST A TRUCK COMING TO REST WITH THE FRONT BUMPER DOWN AND BACK BUMPER IN THE AIR INTO THE CEMENT CANAL IN FRONT OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AREA, REQUIRING ROAD CLOSURE AND POLICE STAFF TIME. UM, AND THEN P ROAD ALREADY BECOMES BACKED UP WITH TRAFFIC DURING RUSH HOUR. NOT HAVING A SAFE LEFT HAND EXIT WOULD MAKE THE DRIVER SLIP A U-TURN ALONG PRU ROAD, WHICH GIVEN THE LIMITED SIGHT LINES DUE TO ITS WINDY NATURE, IS ALSO ANOTHER SAFETY ISSUE. AND THEN THERE'S OR MULTIPLE STREETLIGHT LAMPS, POLICE RADARS AND DIFFERENT UH, UH, POLES THAT WERE DESTROYED IN DIFFERENT CRASH EVENTS. MANY OF THESE ACCIDENTS, UM, INCLUDING ACCIDENTS WHERE DRIVERS CRASH INTO, UH, RESIDENCE FENCES HAVE BEEN RECORDED IN THE NEWS AND PROVIDED LINKS TO ARTICLES IN THE OPPOSITION LETTER I SENT TO ELIZABETH STEWART. ALONG WITH THIS, WE ALSO HAVE DRAINAGE, UM, CONCERNS AND THAT THE ADDITION OF HOUSING AND TAKEOVER AREAS ON THE HILL IMPACT THE CURRENT WATER ABSORPTION, MEANING THAT MORE RUNOFF INTO THE EXISTING. HI, MY NAME IS MICHELLE KENDALE ELIZABETH WAY, SAN ANTONIO, SEVEN EIGHT TWO FOUR ZERO, TELEPHONE (724) 816-8711. I'M CALLING FOR ZONING CASE LAST THREE DIGITS, 1, 9 4. I AM IN OPPOSITION OF THE REZONING OF AN AR, THE AREA ALONG PRU ROAD FIRST, UM, THE HAZARD OF TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS AS IT IS ON A VERY TIGHT BEND WITH LOTS OF ACCIDENTS THAT ALREADY HAPPENED ALONG THAT STRETCH, LET ALONE HAVING 56 NEW HOMES POURING OUT ONTO PR ROAD. SECOND, THE CARBON FOOTPRINT CHANGE, UM, AS WE TAKE AWAY MORE GREEN SPACE SPACE, IT CHANGES THE PLACE ENVIRONMENTALLY AND IT RAISES TEMPERATURES IN THE SUSTAINING AREA. UH, THIRD ONE, I'M ALSO GREATLY CONCERNED AS I LIVE IN PROVEN BEND THE CHANGE OF THE TOPOGRAPHY AND HOW THAT WILL AFFECT WATER FLOW, UM, AND WATER TO THE RECHARGE AREA OF THE EDWARDS AQUIFER. UM, UM, THANK YOU. HI, MY NAME IS NANCY MENDOZA MAD. I'M THE CURRENT H O A PRESIDENT FOR PR BEND. MY HOME ADDRESS IS 7 3 1 8 ELIZABETH WAY, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS SEVEN EIGHT TWO FOUR ZERO. MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 632-0426. I HAVE SENT IN MY PERSONAL OPPOSITION REGARDING CASE NUMBER Z 20 22 1 0 7 0 1 9 4, AS WELL AS THE OPPOSITION FROM THE H O A I SUPPORT THE OPINIONS OF THOSE, UH, PEOPLE WHO ARE PRESENT AT TODAY'S HEARING, [03:05:01] REPRESENTING THE PR AND ASSOCIATION AND THE NEIGHBORS IN THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. HI, UM, HI, UH, THIS IS, UH, PETER SANCHEZ. UH, I LIVE IN, IN 1 0 3 0 9 LOS BLUFF, UH, IN, IN OAK BLUFF IN THE OAK. I'M PART OF THE OAK BLUFF COMMUNITY AND I AM CALLING, UH, REGARDING THE SONY CASE, 1 9 4. UH, I BELIEVE THAT THEY WANT TO, UH, DESTROY A, AN, UH, UM, A BEAUTIFUL PARK TO CONSTRUCT, UH, FOR CONSTRUCTION OF SOME APARTMENTS. AND I AM A HUNDRED PERCENT AGAINST IT. UH, I THINK THAT THE, THE REZONING, UH, IT WILL CAUSE MAJOR PROBLEMS WITH, WITH, WITH THE WAY, UM, FIRST THE DESTRUCTION OF THE ENVIRONMENT. SECOND, THE, THE, THE TRAFFIC, IF THEY'RE GONNA ADD APARTMENTS THERE IS GOING TO BE JUST IMPOSSIBLE TO HANDLE BECAUSE IT'S A VERY NARROW STREET. IT DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF LIGHTS AND, AND TRAFFIC, UH, LIGHTS THAT CAN HELP, UH, CONTROL AND, AND, AND FOR PEOPLE TO MOVE AROUND, UH, EASILY THERE. SO IT'S GONNA BE A NIGHTMARE IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC AND, UM, I JUST THINK IT'S A HORRIBLE THING THAT THEY'RE BUILDING. THEY, THEY WANT TO BUILD APARTMENTS RIGHT ON TOP OF, OF A, OF, UM, AN AREA THAT HAS, UH, WATER. UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND I THINK THAT'S A VERY DANGEROUS THING TO DO BECAUSE, UM, THINGS ARE NOT GONNA BE, THINGS ARE NEVER THE WAY THAT PEOPLE PLAN 'EM AND THEY ALWAYS HAVE CONSEQUENCES. SO, UM, I AM A HUNDRED PERCENT AGAINST, UH, REZONING AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF, OF ANY APARTMENTS THERE. UM, SO PLEASE, UH, UM, I HOPE YOU CAN, YOU CAN HEAR US AND HEAR ME. AND, UM, AGAIN, THIS IS PETER SANCHEZ, I LIVE AT IN 1 0 3 0 9. UM, HELLO, MY NAME IS REBECCA CRAIG, UM, 1 0 2 1 0 ELIZABETH COURT, SAN ANTONIO, 7 8 2 4 0. I'M CALLING ABOUT ISSUE, UH, 1 0 7 0 0 1 9 4. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SPOKE ABOUT THIS BUILDER NOT HAVING ANY EXPERIENCE AND ALSO HIDING FROM US ANY INFORMATION THAT WE ACTUALLY ASKED FOR. MY MAIN ISSUE WITH THEM AT THIS POINT AFTER HAVING LIKE WATCHED, UM, WATCHED US WORK WITH THEM, WATCHED OUR ORGANIZATION WORK WITH THEM, IS THAT I FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE MADE NO EFFORT TO GIVE US ANY INFORMATION TO GIVE US ANY, UM, FEEDBACK AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO TO KEEP THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THEY'RE BUILDING SAFE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEXT TO, AND THE TWO NEIGHBORHOODS NEXT TO THEM SAFE. UM, YOU KNOW, THEY GAVE US LIKE A, LIKE A A A TRAFFIC PLAN, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH A TRAFFIC STUDY AS FAR AS ARE, YOU KNOW, IS THEIR CUT IN GOING TO WORK OR IF THEY ARE GONNA DO A CUT IN, WHERE ARE THEY GONNA PUT IT? UM, SO SPECIFICALLY TO DO WITH WATERSHED AND TRAFFIC. UM, THEY HAVE JUST NOT GIVEN US ANY INFORMATION AND I AM GETTING REALLY TIRED OF BEING CALLED UNREASONABLE WHEN I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO REASON ON. I I DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION WITH WHICH TWO REASONS. SO MY MAIN ISSUE WITH THEM IS THAT I'M SORRY I DON'T TRUST THEM AND I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD EITHER. THE ENGINEERING FIRM THAT THEY'RE WORKING WITH, THE WEBSITE IS JUST A BUNCH OF STOCK IMAGES. IT'S LIKE THEY'VE NEVER DONE ANYTHING BEFORE. AND SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT DOESN'T LIKE, SEEM FISHY TO EVERYONE ELSE BECAUSE SEEMS REALLY FISHY TO ME. UM, I WOULD FEEL MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE IF THE GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS ROSADA PALOMINO. MY ADDRESS IS 1 0 9 ELIZABETH COURT, UH, ZIP CODE 7 8 2 4 0. UM, CALLING IN REGARDS TO CASE ENDING IN 1 9 4, I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THE ZONING HEARING BE POSTPONED AS WE'RE CURRENTLY VERY CLOSE TO ELECTIONS AND THE IN TRANSITION PERIOD FROM DISTRICT EIGHT TO JUST DISTRICT SEVEN. DURING THIS TIME, WE'RE AT A DISADVANTAGE UNTIL WE HAVE A PERMANENT REPRESENTATIVE. IN REGARDS TO THE ZONING CASE. A MAJOR CONCERN FOR ME IS THE TRAFFIC. THE ENTRANCE TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS AT THE BASE OF A SHARP, WINDY SLOPE. THIS AREA IS SO [03:10:01] DANGEROUS THAT IT'S CALLED DEAD MAN'S CURVE. THE SLOPE INCREASES THE SPEED OF DRIVERS AND THE WINDINESS OF IT CAN CONTRIBUTE TO THE LOSS OF CONTROL OF SOME VEHICLES. THERE HAVE BEEN MULTIPLE CAR ACCIDENTS THERE AND THE RAILING IN CERTAIN SECTIONS HAS BEEN REPLACED OVER AND OVER DUE TO VEHICLES DRIVING ONTO THE CURB. THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEXT TO US, OAK BLUFF HAD A SECOND ENTRANCE IN BETWEEN THEIR CURRENT ENTRANCE AND OUR ENTRANCE. THE ENTRANCE WAS PERMANENTLY CLOSED AFTER SOMEONE DIED. I HOPE THIS GIVES YOU A SLIGHT IDEA OF HOW DANGEROUS THIS AREA IS DURING THE TRAFFIC HOUR. THIS IS A VERY GO, VERY DIFFICULT TIME TO EXIT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S INCOMPREHENSIBLE TO ME HOW THE ENTRANCE TO THE NEW DEVELOPMENT WILL BE JUST YARDS FROM THAT SECOND ENTRANCE THAT WAS PERMANENTLY CLOSED AND IT'S ALSO AT THE SHARPEST PART OF THE CURB. THIS WILL ONLY INCREASE THE DANGER OF THE AREA. A SEPARATE ISSUE IS THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE PROPOSED AREA TO BE DEVELOPED IS AT AN ON STEEP SLOPE. I'M NOT SURE WHAT STEPS WILL BE NEEDED TO BE ABLE FOR THE BUILDER TO BUILD ON THIS SURFACE STEEP SLOPE, BUT I ASSUME THERE'LL BE SOME ROCK CUTTING AND SOME TURNING UP OF TREES. MY CONCERN IS THAT THIS IS GOING TO IMPACT NEGATIVELY THE SOIL CONDITION AROUND OUR AREA. MOST OF OUR RESIDENTS ALREADY HAVE FOUND. HI, MY NAME IS STEPHANIE O I LIVE ON 8 3 3 SHADE. UM, 7 8 2 50 IS MY ZIP CODE, UM, THE NINE CALLING IN REGARDS TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF HOUSES THAT ARE GONNA BE ON THROUGH ROAD NEXT TO . UM, I TRAVEL DOWN THIS ROAD EVERY MORNING AND HAVING A NEW DEVELOPMENT WILL ADD ONLY ADD MORE TRAFFIC, UM, THAT IS VERY DANGEROUS, UM, 'CAUSE OF THE CURVE IN THAT DANGEROUS SPOT. UM, THAT OUTLET IS JUST HORRIBLE EVERY MORNING. THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL ACCIDENTS ALREADY. UM, AGAIN, I DO NOT, UM, AGREE WITH THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT AND I OPPOSE IT. UM, THANK YOU. HELLO, MY NAME IS TINA SMITH AND I, MY ADDRESS IS 1 0 3 3 1 ELIZABETH COURT. I'M IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF PRUDE BEND. MY CELL PHONE IS (210) 875-8420 AND I'M CALLING REGARDING CASE NUMBER Z DASH 2 0 2 2 DASH, UH, 1 0 7 0 0 1 9 4. I'M CALLING FOR TWO POINTS. ONE TO ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE, UH, OF THIS UH, CASE. UH, DUE TO OUR DISTRICT CHANGING, WE WOULD LIKE TO WAIT UNTIL DISTRICT SEVEN COUNCIL PERSON IS ELECTED, UH, THAT WHO HAS A VESTED INTEREST IN THIS MATTER. MY SECOND POINT IS I WANT TO OPPOSE, UH, THE BUILDING OF THE, THE PROPERTY THAT IS BETWEEN PROVEN BEND AND OAK BLUFF FOR SEVERAL REASONS. ONE, UH, THIS AREA HAS A SIGNIFICANT SLOPE AND SO QUITE A BIT OF CHANGE WILL BE DONE TO THE AREA WHICH WILL CHANGE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE LANDSCAPE. AND I'M WORRIED THAT THIS CHANGE COULD CAUSE INSTABILITY LIKE WHAT HAPPENED IN THE RIVER MISS NEIGHBORHOOD PROBABLY 10 TO 12 YEARS AGO WHEN THAT RETAINING WALL COLLAPSED. ALSO, I BELIEVE, UH, THAT THE TREES THAT ARE CURRENTLY THERE ARE FORM SOME SORT OF RETAINING WALL. AND IF IT'S REMOVED, THIS WILL TRAIN, CHANGE THE DRAINAGE INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, WATER ALREADY POOLS, UH, ON THE WEST SIDE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE STREETS WHEN WE GET A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF RAIN SOMEWHERE THAT THIS WILL MAKE IT EVEN WORSE, ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE HOMES THAT ARE ON THE WEST SIDE OF, OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. MY BIGGEST WORRY IS THE TRAFFIC, UH, CHANGE, UH, AND DANGERS, UH, ON THIS ROAD. PRU BETWEEN BANDERA AND I 10 HAS FOR A LONG TIME BEEN A A A WAY FOR PEOPLE TO AVOID 1604. SO IT IS HEAVY IN TRAFFIC IN THE MORNING AND THEN THE AFTERNOONS THIS WILL JUST INCREASE TRAFFIC. THIS PART OF WHERE THE THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS TO BUILD IS, IS RIGHT ON A CURVE. THEY WANNA PUT THE ENTRANCE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT CURVE. THERE HAS BEEN MULTIPLE ACCIDENTS IN THAT VERY SAME AREA. THAT IS IT OF THE VOICEMAILS. ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HAVE STAFF'S PRESENTATION PLEASE. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS ELIZABETH STEWART, ZONING PLANNER OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. UM, AS WE SAID, ITEM SIX IS GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 70 7500 BLOCK OF PER ROAD GOING FROM R SIX TO PUT R FIVE WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. THERE WERE 57 NOTICES SENT OUT, ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR, 40 RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION. ALAMO FARMSTEADS BABCOCK ROAD NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION [03:15:01] IS AN OPPOSITION. PROVEN HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION IS AN O OPPOSITION. OAK BLUFF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN OPPOSITION AND OAKLAND ESTATES NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN OPPOSITION FROM OUTSIDE 200 FEET. THERE WERE 140 NOTICES RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION FROM OUTSIDE 200 FEET AND ONE RECEIVED IN SUPPORT FROM OUTSIDE 200 FEET. THE EXISTING R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPOSED PUD R FIVE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT IS ALSO AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPOSED PUD R FIVE ALLOWS FOR ADDITIONAL HOUSING IN A MANNER IN LINE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE LARGER AREA. THE PROPO. THE PROPERTY IS PROPOSED FOR DEVELOPMENT OF A RESIDENTIAL TOWN HOME SUBDIVISION HAVING A MINIMUM LOT SIZE OF 1200 AND A MAXIMUM DENSITY OF SIX UNITS PER ACRE, PER POD STANDARDS AT 11.03 ACRES FOR SUBDIVISION OF TOWN HOMES, THERE COULD POTENTIALLY BE THE DEVELOPMENT OF 120 LOTS. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 56 LOTS WITH THEIR SITE PLAN REZONING AT THE CURRENT ZONING OF R SIX, ALLOWING SEVEN UNITS PER ACRE WITH 11.03 ACRES. THERE COULD POTENTIALLY BE THE DEVELOPMENT OF 77 LOTS. STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST, THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS, AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT. THANK YOU. IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE. HI, GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. ASHLEY FAIRMONT, KILLING GRIFFIN IN FAIRMONT 1 0 1 0 1 REUNION PLACE. UH, WE DO HAVE A, A PRESENTATION TODAY. PERFECT. THANK YOU. UH, SO I'M HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND, AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME AND I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG AFTERNOON, AND THANK YOU TO EVERYONE FOR COMING OUT TO SPEAK AND SHARE THEIR THOUGHTS ON THE REZONING PROPOSAL. UM, DOES THAT NOT WORK? CAN, DOES. I CAN'T DO IT. OKAY. UH, SO, SO IT'S BEEN MENTIONED EXTENSIVELY, SO I'LL, I'LL GO THROUGH THIS PRETTY QUICKLY. THE, THE 11 ACRE PROPERTY HERE, UM, ON PRU AND, UH, THE SURROUNDING USES, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TWO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS ON EITHER SIDE. UM, THERE IS OPI SCHNABEL PARK TO THE SOUTH. UH, YOU HAVE A TRAILHEAD TO THE, LET'S SAY THE NORTHEAST AND THEN THE LEON CREEK GREENWAY. SO, SO USE THIS MAP. AND I DO WANNA SAY, AND, AND I KNOW YOU'VE HEARD, UM, FROM PEOPLE WHO WHO'VE SPOKEN TODAY ABOUT THINKING THAT THIS WAS PARKLAND. SO IT'S ALWAYS BEEN BEEN PRIVATE PROPERTY. UM, BUT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN USING IT FOR YEARS. AND, AND IF YOU LOOK AT THIS MAP AND UNDERSTAND THE PROXIMITY, UM, TO OTHER PARKS AND OTHER PUBLIC SPACE IN THE AREA, I MEAN, IT IS UNDERSTANDABLE. UH, THE AREA IS PRETTY BLESSED WITH LOTS OF PARKS, UM, AND TRAIL ACCESS. SO, UH, BUT IT IS PRIVATE PROPERTY. UH, BUT LIKE I SAID, WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN USING IT AND DO HAVE A PROPOSAL ON TO ALLOW SOME CONTINUED USE OF THIS SITE. UM, AS STAFF MENTIONED, WE ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMMUNITY PLAN FOR THE AREA. WE DO BELIEVE THAT THE TOWN HOMES, UM, PROPOSED AND THE AMOUNT OF UNITS THAT WOULD BE PROPOSED, THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF UNITS, WHICH I'LL GET INTO, UM, IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE AREA AND DOES PROVIDE AN ALTERNATIVE HOUSING TYPE TO WHAT IS THERE NOW, UM, BUT IS ALSO CONSISTENT. IT'S NOT APARTMENTS. UM, IT IS TWO OWN, UM, SINGLE FAMILY TYPE TOWN HOMES. SO, SO CURRENT ZONING, WE ARE ASKING AGAIN FOR THE R FIVE P, UM, OAK BLUFF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION TO THE WEST IS, IS ZONED. R FIVE PROVEN TO THE EAST IS ZONED R SIX. UH, THERE ARE DENSITY LIMITATIONS OBVIOUSLY, THAT COME ALONG WITH THOSE ZONING REQUESTS. A TYPICAL SINGLE FAMILY ZONING WITHOUT A PUD, UM, IS MEASURED BASED ON GROSS DENSITY. SO GROSS ACREAGE. UH, SO YOU HEARD SOME COMMENTS ABOUT STEEP SLOPE AND FLOODPLAIN AND THAT COMING INTO DENSITY CALCULATIONS. UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT A TYPICAL MULTIFAMILY ZONING, A TYPICAL SINGLE FAMILY ZONING DENSITY IS BASED ON THAT GROSS ACREAGE, BUT WITH THE PUD IT WILL BE BASED ON OUR NET ACREAGE, WHICH I'LL TALK ABOUT IN A SECOND. YOU CAN SKIP THAT ONE. SORRY. UH, SO HERE'S THE PUD PLAN, WHICH AGAIN YOU HAVE ALL SEEN AS WELL. UM, JUST TO HIGHLIGHT THIS IS, IS 56 UNITS IS WHAT IS SHOWN ON THIS PLAN. UM, THERE WERE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT NET ACREAGE AND, AND SO IN WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, THEY DID ASK ABOUT STEEP SLOPES. UH, SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF THE ENGINEER CALCULATING THOSE SLOPES. WE DID PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION, UM, I THINK IT WAS THIS MORNING OR LAST NIGHT, UM, ON THOSE STEEP SLOPES. AND THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, TO GET SOME INFORMATION OUT THERE. UM, IF THE STEEP SLOPES AND WORKING WITH CITY STAFF THAT IS, COMES INTO THE NET ACREAGE [03:20:01] OF THE PUD PLANT, THEN WE WILL NEED TO REDUCE THE DENSITY SHOWN ON THIS PLAN. UH, SO WE WILL WORK WITH CITY STAFF ON THAT IN REVIEWING DENSITY, BUT 56 UNITS WOULD BE THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF UNITS THAT WOULD BE PROPOSED FOR THIS PROJECT. NEXT PLAN. UH, SO THIS IS OUR SIX SINGLE FAMILY PROJECT. THIS SHOWS 63 UNITS. UM, THE, THE OWNER DID KNOW IT WAS ZONED R SIX WHEN THEY BOUGHT IT. THEY KNEW IT WAS ZONED SINGLE FAMILY. AND, AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, WE THINK IS A BETTER OPTION IN TERMS OF WORKING WITH THE SITE, WORKING WITH THE SLOPES, UH, WORKING WITH THE EXISTING NATURAL CONDITIONS. UH, THE TOWN HOMES DO ALLOW FOR SMALLER LAYOUTS OF UNITS, ALLOW FOR SOME WORK WITH, AGAIN, THAT EXISTING TOPOGRAPHY. UM, THIS SITE PLAN HERE JUST SHOWS IF IT WAS DEVELOPED R SIX AS IS, WE WOULD NOT NEED TO GO THROUGH THE REZONING PROCESS. UM, AND WE WOULD JUST GO STRAIGHT INTO PLATTING AND ENGINEERING, UM, QUESTIONS THAT HAVE COME UP. SO HERE, UM, THIS MAP ON THE, ON THE LEFT OF THE SCREEN IS A LITTLE BIT HARD TO SEE, BUT THAT'S THE EDWARD RECHARGE ZONE. I JUST DID WANNA CLARIFY THE PROPERTY DOES HAVE A, CALL IT A, A, A SLIM KIND OF FINGER, OR THE OWNERS OWN A SLIM PIECE HERE. THAT'S A 1980S, UM, SEWER EASEMENT. IT WAS DEDICATED IN 1980 AND THAT IS IN THE RECHARGE IN THE EDWARDS AQUIFER RECHARGE ZONE. UM, BUT THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE ZONING CASE. SO NO PORTION OF THIS PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE ACTUAL RECHARGE ZONE, AND THAT'S WHY THERE WAS NO SAWS REPORT TODAY. NO IMPERVIOUS COVER RECOMMENDATION. UH, WHAT IS SHOWN ON THE PLAN WITH THE 56 UNITS IS ABOUT 32, 30 3% IMPERVIOUS COVER. SO IT'S STILL PRETTY LOW. UM, HERE, UH, FLOODPLAIN, I THINK YOU'VE SEEN ENOUGH OF THOSE MAPS TODAY SHOWING THE FLOODPLAIN, BUT, BUT THERE IS FLOODPLAIN IN THE CORNER OF THE PROPERTY THAT WILL NOT BE BUILT UPON, UM, DRAINAGE. SO, SO WHAT THIS EXHIBIT SHOWS, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND, I THINK IS IF NORTH IS SCREEN LEFT. UM, AND THIS IS OAK BLUFF HERE. DRAINAGE RUNS DOWN THROUGH THE SITE TOWARDS PR BEND. SO THIS IS A PLATTED DRAINAGE EASEMENT, UH, THAT WAS PLATTED WITH THE PR BEND NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. UM, AND SO THIS CURRENT DRAINAGE FLOWS THROUGH THE SITE, DOWN A DRAINAGE EASEMENT HERE INTO THIS DRAINAGE AREA. AND THEN OFF. UH, SO WITH THIS PROJECT, OBVIOUSLY WE'LL BE ACCEPTING THAT DRAINAGE FROM OAK BLUFF, AND THEN THAT WILL BE PASSED ON THROUGH, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T INCREASE THE DRAINAGE, WE HAVE TO ACCEPT IT AND THEN DRAIN OFF THE PROPERTY, UM, AS THE NATURAL PATTERN GOES. SO THAT WILL BE WORKED THROUGH WITH OUR ENGINEERS WITH THE CITY AND THE STORMWATER AND THEIR REVIEW. UM, ONCE AN ENGINEERING PLAN FOR DRAINAGE IS COMPLETE AND CITY HAS REVIEWED AND APPROVED, WE'RE HAPPY TO SHARE THAT WITH, UH, ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT. UH, SO, SO YOU HAVE HEARD SOME QUESTIONS, CONCERNS ABOUT SOILS. UH, SO THE OWNER HAS WENT AHEAD AND THEY HAVE HIRED A GEOTECHNICAL FIRM TO LOOK AT THE SOIL AND STUDY IT. UH, WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE THAT IN THE NEXT THREE TO FOUR WEEKS. UH, THAT WAY WE'LL HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF, UM, EXISTING CONDITIONS AND WE CAN ALSO HAPPY TO SHARE THAT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL. UM, AGAIN, THAT WILL COME IN THE BUILDING PERMIT ENGINEERING PROCESS. UM, NOT NECESSARILY A USE QUESTION, BUT WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERNS BASED ON HISTORY OF THIS AREA, UH, WITH THE SOIL AND HOW THE PROPERTY WILL BE DEVELOPED. SO WE ARE WORKING ON THAT. UM, TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC IS A BIG TOPIC OF DISCUSSION. UM, WE KNEW THAT WOULD COME UP. SO THERE'S A DIFFERENCE I THINK, BETWEEN TRAFFIC. JUST TO CLARIFY, UM, BETWEEN THE WORKSHEET THAT GOES WITH THE ZONING APPLICATION, WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO A T I A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WORKSHEET. UM, BUT THAT'S NOT A STUDY. SO THE STUDY IS TRIGGERED AT PLATTING, UH, BUILDING PERMIT. UM, BUT IT DOES REQUIRE A, A LEVEL ONE T I A REQUIRES A MINIMUM THRESHOLD OF 76 PEAK HOUR TRIPS. THIS PROJECT DOES NOT RISE TO THAT LEVEL, SO IT DOES NOT TRIGGER THE NEED FOR A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS. UM, HOWEVER WE KNOW OF THE CONCERNS, UH, WE KNOW THERE'S ONE POINT TO ACCESS THIS PROPERTY. THERE'S ONE ROAD. SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH CITY TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT ON THE BEST POINT FOR THAT ACCESS. UH, THEY'VE BEEN OUT TO THE SITE, THEY'VE LOOKED AT IT, THEY'VE LOOKED AT CURRENT DRIVER PATTERNS. UM, THEY'VE CONSIDERED, YOU KNOW, FUTURE, OBVIOUSLY FUTURE PEOPLE COMING TO THE PROPERTY. UM, THEY'VE LOOKED AT SPEED AND ALL OF THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. AND THEN WE'LL BE REVIEWED AGAIN IN EXTENSIVE DETAIL, AGAIN IN PLATTING AND PERMITTING. UM, BUT WE DO HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT WILL LIKELY BE REQUIRED. AND THAT IS FOR, FOR TRAFFIC TRAVELING EASTBOUND DOWN PRU, UM, A DECELERATION TURNING LANE INTO THE SITE, UH, TO GET PEOPLE OFF OF PERU WHEN THEY TURN INTO THE PROPERTY. AND THEN WHAT, WHAT THEY'RE ALSO CONSIDERING, OR TRAFFIC IS LOOKING AT IS, IS A MEDIAN CUT TO MAKE THIS A FULL ACCESS WITH A LEFT END TO, AGAIN, PEOPLE GET PEOPLE OFF OF THE EXISTING [03:25:01] TRAVEL LANES, UM, AND INTO A PROTECTED TURN. SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE BEING WORKED ON. UH, AGAIN, WE KNOW TRAFFIC IS A CONCERN AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH, UH, THE TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT HERE AT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. UH, SO AGAIN, JUST THE AMENDED PUD PLAN. LEMME SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING, ANYTHING THAT I MISSED. OH, UM, OKAY. SO I DO WANT TO USE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THE BACK PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, THE OPEN SPACE YOU SEE HERE, UM, DESIGNATED ON THIS PUD PLAN. SO WE DESIGNATE THAT AS, AS OPEN SPACE ON THE PUD PLAN. IT'S ABOUT FOUR ACRES. UM, AND WHAT THE OWNER IS WILLING TO DO AND WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON IS A POTENTIAL DONATION OF THAT PROPERTY OR PURCHASE OF THAT PROPERTY THROUGH A CONSERVATION EASEMENT PROCESS. UM, BEEN IN TOUCH WITH CITY PARKS ON THAT. UM, CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH THAT, SO THAT SPACE COULD REMAIN, UM, OPEN, UH, OBVIOUSLY NO DEVELOPMENT THERE. BUT WITH THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT PROCESS, WE CAN ALSO LOOK AT HAVING, ALLOWING PEOPLE TO CONTINUE TO ACCESS THAT PORTION OF THE PROPERTY. WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE, I MEAN, WE KNOW THERE ARE EXISTING TRAILS ON THE PROPERTY, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, ACCESS TO OB SCHNABEL, PEOPLE GO BEHIND THE PROPERTY HERE. UM, ALSO, YOU KNOW, THAT SPACE THERE, THERE'S OTHER IMPROVEMENTS AND IF THAT CAN BE MANAGED THROUGH A CONSERVATION EASEMENT, UM, THEN IT CAN BE PROTECTED AND CONTINUE TO BE USED BY THE PUBLIC. MM-HMM. , UH, THERE'S ALSO BEEN QUESTIONS ABOUT PEDESTRIAN ACCESS. UH, SO IN THIS PUD PLAN, IT'S DIFFICULT TO SEE IN THIS EXHIBIT, BUT THERE'S A DEDICATED 10 FEET PEDESTRIAN EASEMENT ALONG THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, UM, THAT COULD BE USED FOR PEDESTRIANS TO ACCESS THAT OPEN SPACE IN THE REAR OF THE SITE. UM, ALSO ON THIS PLAN, IT, IT'S, AGAIN, DIFFICULT TO READ, UM, BUT THERE ARE SETBACKS SHOWN LANDSCAPE BUFFERS ALONG THE PERIMETER, UH, SOLID SCREEN FENCING NEXT TO O BLUFF, UM, AND OTHER THINGS TO PROTECT, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. THIS IS A DISTRICT EIGHT CASE, SO TO YOU COMMISSIONER ORTIZ FOR QUESTIONS. MR. CHAIRMAN, MAY I GO ON THE RECORD FOR JUST ONE MINUTE PLEASE? IF YOU DON'T MIND? SURE. UH, THIS IS MELISSA RAMIREZ. I UNDERSTAND THERE HAS BEEN COMMENTS MADE THAT SOME, THERE WOULD BEEN HAVING PROBLEMS LEAVING MESSAGES ON OUR, UH, VOICEMAIL. A LOT OF THE MESSAGES THAT WE HEARD TODAY WERE MORE THAN TWO MINUTES. THEY WERE MORE, WE, THEY ARE ALLOWED TO LEAVE MESSAGES UP TO THREE MINUTES ON OUR VOICEMAIL. UM, WE DID CONFIRM THAT THEY ARE, THERE'S PROBABLY SOME ISSUES GOING ON, BUT WITH NOT WITH ALL THE PEOPLE CALLING IN. SO WE'RE NOT QUITE SURE WHAT'S HAPPENING. WE ARE LOOKING INTO THE, THE PROBLEM WITH OUR IT TO ADDRESS IT. AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I, I MADE EVERYONE AWARE OF THAT. AND THEN WAS THE APPLICANT COMPLETED WITH YOUR PRESENTATION? 'CAUSE I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAD GOTTEN YOUR TIME IN, YOU'RE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU TO YOU COMMISSIONER ORTIZ. THANK YOU CHAIR. I ACTUALLY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR CITY STAFF, UM, REGARDING DEAR, UM, REGARDING THE SLOPE. IS IT GONNA CHANGE ANY OF THE STANCE OF THE CITY REGARDING, I GUESS, DOES THE STANCE CHANGE REGARDING SOME OF THE COMMENTS WE'RE MAKING REGARDING THE SLOPE REGARDING THE APPROVAL? KELLY, I CAN, I CAN CHIME IN ON THAT. SO COMMISSIONER TODAY WE'RE LOOKING AT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LAND USE AND ZONING, SO THAT'S CORRECT. AS, AS THIS GOES THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, THE NEXT STEPS WOULD BE EITHER THE PLATTING PROCESS WHERE THEY WILL BE IDENTIFYING, UH, TREE SUBMITTALS. WITHIN THAT THERE WILL BE, UH, AN AN E S A EVALUATION, ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREA EVALUATION THAT WILL BE DONE. AND IF THERE IS STEEP SLOPES IDENTIFIED OF 20% OR GREATER, THEN THEY WILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH OUR REGULATIONS. AND AT THAT TIME, THEY WOULD HAVE TO DECREASE THE MAX UNITS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE ON THIS PROPERTY, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. AND IF I MAY, UH, THEY WOULD ALSO HAVE TO SUBMIT A HABITAT COMPLIANCE FORM, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT IS SUBMITTED FOR EVERY PROPERTY WITH THAT IS GREATER THAN TWO ACRES. THAT INFORMATION IS, UH, SUBMITTED TO THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AND WE PROVIDE THAT TO US FISH AND WILDLIFE FOR EVALUATION. PERFECT, THANK YOU. UH, NEXT QUESTION IS FOR THE APPLICANT. I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS IF YOU DON'T MIND. I THINK YOU WERE KIND OF, ASHLEY, YOU'RE ADDRESSING SOME OF THEM A LITTLE WHILE AGO, BUT I GUESS JUST REGARDING THE SOAP STUDIES WE WERE TALKING ABOUT AND IN MY OTHER CONCERNS REGARDING THE SOIL, I KNOW YOU SAID THREE TO FOUR WEEKS. IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION SOONER? POSSIBLY, SINCE I KNOW THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WAITING FOR THAT INFORMATION PA WE CAN TRY. CERTAINLY. OKAY. YEAH. AND THEN REGARDING THE PRESERVATION OF THE PROPERTY, YOU SAID, CAN YOU GIVE SOME MORE INFORMATION REGARDING THE PRES PRESERVATION AS FAR AS THE TREES AND SO FORTH? WHAT'S GONNA BE DONE AT THAT PART REGARDING THE 40% THAT THEY'RE GONNA DONATE? SURE. SO, SO THE, THE PORTION OF THE BACK, NOTHING WOULD BE DONE. IT, IT WOULDN'T BE TOUCHED, IT WOULD REMAIN NATURAL. UM, SO THERE WOULD [03:30:01] BE, YOU KNOW, NO CLEARING, NO IMPROVEMENTS. IT WOULD JUST BE, YOU KNOW, RESERVED AS NATURAL SPACE. UM, THE, I DO WANNA ALSO MENTION, UM, MELISSA DID MENTION TREES. TREES ON THE ENTIRE SITE. THERE'S NO VESTING ON THIS PROPERTY HAS TO COMPLY WITH CURRENT VERSION OF THE TREE ORDINANCE. UM, AND SO THERE ARE A LOT OF TREES AND SO THERE WILL BE TREE STUDIES, UM, AND THEN WORK WITH THE CITY ARBORIST ON THAT. AND I GUESS THE REASON TO, FROM CHANGING IT FROM AN R SIX TO AN R FIVE WAS JUST FOR THE LOWER DENSITY OF THIS, THIS PROPERTY, OR HOW, HOW IS THAT? SO THE, THE CHANGE FROM THE R SIX TO THE R FIVE, THE R FIVE PUD ALLOWS US THE FLEXIBILITY IN, IN THE LOT LOCATION AND THE LOT SIZE. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE WERE ASKING FOR THAT PIECE. THE R FIVE PUTT IS ACTUALLY TECHNICALLY A LOWER DENSITY IF YOU LOOK AT THE ENTIRE PROPERTY. UM, BUT IT DOES CLUSTER THE DENSITY TOWARDS THE FRONT. UM, WE THOUGHT THAT WAS A BETTER OPTION THAN THE R SIX ZONING BECAUSE AGAIN, IT WORKS WITH THE EXISTING TOPOGRAPHY AND EXISTING NATURAL STATE OF THE PROPERTY. UM, IF THEN R SIX ZONING, IT'S MUCH MORE LIKELY THAT THEY WOULD JUST COME IN AND BUILD LOTS, YOU KNOW, FLATTEN IT OUT. SO, UM, IT, IT WOULD BE LESS, I GUESS, CONSIDERATE DESIGN. AND I GUESS IS THE, THE DEVELOPER PLANNING TO FLATTEN OUT SOME OF THE LAND OR WHAT'S HIS TAKE ON THAT AS WELL? SO, SO RIGHT NOW WITH THE, THE PROPOSED PLAN, THERE WOULD BE SOME CUT AND FILL, UM, BUT THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY MASS GRADING OF THE SITE. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND HAND IT OVER TO SOME OF MY COMMISSIONERS CASE. I HAVE SOME MORE QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL START ON MY RIGHT. QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, I HAVE, UM, QUESTIONS FOR BOTH, UH, STAFF IN FRONT OF APPLICANT. I'LL START WITH STAFF FIRST. UM, WITH RESPECT TO THE P UM, WILL THEY BE TIED TO THE SITE PLAN? SO LIKE WHAT WE'RE SEEING THERE IS, WAS IT WORK LIKE I D Z WHERE THE AREAS THAT ARE SHOWN AS OPEN SPACE ARE GOING TO BE KEPT OPEN AND THE AREAS THAT ARE SHOWN AS BEING DEVELOPED ARE THE AREAS THAT WOULD BE DEVELOPED? SO YES, THE PLAN THAT IS SUBMITTED HERE WOULD HAVE TO BE FOLLOWED. UM, ALSO WHEN THEY SUBMIT THE P PLAN FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. OKAY. SO THEN THERE, IF IT, IF THE PLAN, IF THE SITE PLAN SHOWS 56 UNITS, THEN THERE'S NO WAY FOR THEM TO INCREASE THAT THAT IS CORRECT IN THE FUTURE WITHOUT GOING THROUGH ANOTHER REZONING? CORRECT. THEY CANNOT INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF DWELLING UNITS. OKAY. BUT THEN IF THERE'S SOME FINDINGS ON THE E S A OR OTHER STUDIES THAT HAPPEN AS THIS PROCESS GOES ALONG, THEN THOSE WOULD COULD POTENTIALLY BE DECREASED AND THE SITE PLAN COULD BE, WOULD IT THEN BE CHANGED BASED ON, I GUESS I'M JUST LIKE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT IT BEING TIED TO THE SITE PLAN AND THEN THERE BEING CHANGES LATER ON BASED ON THESE OTHER STUDIES THAT ARE GOING TO BE DONE? I ENVISION IF THEY'RE MAKING CHANGES BASED OFF OF THE STUDIES THAT ARE GONNA BE COMING REGARDING STORM WATER OR TREES, IT'S REALLY GOING TO NOT BE THE 56, UH, DWELLING UNITS. IT'S GONNA BE LOWER THAN THAT. UM, HOWEVER, IF THEY, IF FOR SOME REASON THEY ARE GOING TO INCREASE THAT, THEY HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY TO DO THAT AT A 10% INCREASE. BUT ANYTHING HIGHER THAN THAT HAS TO GO BACK TO THE REZONING PROCESS. BUT IT COULD CHANGE THE CONFIGURATION LIKE THAT WE'RE SEEING HERE. LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, TALKING ABOUT THERE BEING LIKE THE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS OR, YOU KNOW, JUST, IT, IT, THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY WHAT THE END PRODUCT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. IT COULD STILL HAVE SOME VARIATION BASED ON STUDIES. THERE'S POSSIBILITY. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. UM, AND THEN QUESTION FOR STAFF WITH RESPECT TO THE CARS FEATURES THAT WERE MENTIONED HAS, DOES THAT SOMETHING THAT, THAT THE CITY'S LOOKING INTO TO DETERMINE IF THERE ARE CARS FEATURES? WHO, WHO'S THE DEPARTMENT THAT'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT? UM, SO I MENTIONED HABITAT COMPLIANCE FORM. THE HABITAT COMPLIANCE FORM IS A REQUIREMENT THAT WE HAVE COORDINATED WITH US FISH AND WILDLIFE. SO ANY PERMIT APPLICATION THAT COMES IN THAT'S GREATER THAN TWO ACRES HAS TO SUBMIT THIS HA HABITAT COMPLIANCE FORM. AND IT PROVIDES INFORMATION AND DETAIL OF WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED IN REGARDING, IN REGARDS TO KARST OR VERTEBRAES AREAS. AND SO, UM, WE PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO US FISH AND WILDLIFE, IF THE APPLICANT IS AWARE OF POTENTIAL IMPACT TO ENDANGERED SPECIES, THEIR SURVEYS THAT ARE DONE TO IDENTIFY THAT WHICH IS PROVIDED TO US FISH AND WILDLIFE, WE DO HAVE AN OPTIONAL PROGRAM FOR THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO COME TO, UM, PARTICIPATE IN WITHIN THE [03:35:01] SOUTHERN EDWARDS PLATEAU HABITAT CONSERVATION PLAN. THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO DOESN'T GET INTO THAT REVIEW, BUT WE DO COORDINATE WITH US FISH AND WILDLIFE TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT. OKAY. AND THEN THERE WAS ALSO SOME MENTION OF PREHISTORIC SITES AS WELL. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS ALSO, THAT THE CITY ALSO PARTICIPATES IN OR OVERSEES? DID YOU SAY THERE WAS HISTORIC SITES PREHISTORIC? THERE WAS SOME MENTION PREHISTORIC OF, OF THERE BEING SITES THAT WERE IDENTIFIED BY U T S A, IS THAT SOMETHING LIKE SOME TYPE OF A, A STUDY THAT IS ALSO LOOKED AT BY THE CITY? SO WHEN THE NEXT STEP IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS IS GONNA BE THE PLATING PROCESS, OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION DOES CONDUCT A REVIEW AND THERE IS AN ARCHEOLOGICAL STUDY THAT IS DONE. IF THERE IS INFORMATION THAT IS IDENTIFIED IN THERE THAT YOU, UM, THEY WORK WITH OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND OTHER PARTIES, UM, AT THE STATE LEVEL TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE IS MET, WHATEVER THAT INFORMATION IS, I UNDERSTAND THAT THOSE DOCUMENTS ARE PROTECTED. OKAY, THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. AND THEN A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. ASHLEY. UM, WHO ARE THE ENGINEERS THAT Y'ALL ARE WORKING WITH ON THIS? UH, ROS CONSULTING ENGINEERING. OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, AND THEN ARE THERE, SO IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED R SIX? YES. AND SO THAT IS A VIABLE ALTERNATIVE AND THERE COULD YOU GUYS WOULD HAVE PLANS TO DEVELOP THAT IF AS AN R SIX DEVELOPMENT, IF THIS DID NOT GO THROUGH? YES. OKAY. AND THEN YOU MENTIONED ALSO THAT AS CURRENTLY PLANNED THAT THE IMPERVIOUS COVER IS ABOUT 32 TO 33%. IF THE R SIX PLAN WAS TO GO FORWARD, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA ABOUT WHAT THE IMPERVIOUS COVER MIGHT BE FOR THAT? OBJECTION, IT'S OVER 40. UM, I WAS TRYING TO, IT'S IN THE, ON THE SLIDE. SORRY. ONE. OH YEAH, THANK YOU. OH, SORRY. 63. I CAN'T READ . OKAY. SO 63, I THINK THAT'S A MAXIMUM. I MEAN, MOST, MOST SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS ARE LESS THAN THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. SURE. GREAT. UM, OH, UH, I'D LIKE TO NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER BARDOS LEFT THE MEDIAN AT 5:02 PM AND, UH, QUESTIONS COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT. COMMISSIONER ANTE. UM, BRIEFLY, MR. CHAIR, FOR THIS APPLICANT, YOU MENTIONED THAT, UM, AND FORGIVE ME IF YOU COULD REMIND ME, MS. FIRM, HOW MANY, UH, PEAK HOURLY TRIPS ARE REQUIRED FOR THE TRAFFIC STUDY? 76. 76. HOW MANY DO YOU ANTICIPATE WITH THE 56 CURRENTLY PLANNED UNITS? IT'S 56. 56? YES. OKAY. ALRIGHT. I THINK EVERYTHING ELSE I HAD WAS ALREADY ANSWERED. THANK YOU. OKAY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? NONE, UM, THANKS. I I, OH SORRY. COMMISSIONER ALI HALL. YEAH. SO SENSITIVE TO A COMMENT MADE BY A RESIDENT THAT THEY ARE NOT HAPPY WITH THE COMMUNICATIONS THAT THEY HAVE RECEIVED SO FAR AND THE ANSWERS THAT THEY'VE RECEIVED SO FAR. UM, AND ALSO SENSITIVE TO A LOT OF THE COMMENTS THAT YOU MADE ABOUT INFORMATION THAT'S COMING THAT YOU'D BE HAPPY TO SHARE. YES. CAN YOU CONFIRM HOW MUCH TIME OR WHO YOU'VE SPENT TALKING TO ABOUT THESE PLANS AND AT WHAT DEPTH WHEN IT COMES TO THE RESIDENTS? YEAH, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'M GONNA ACTUALLY LET EMILY WEISLER FROM MY OFFICE ADDRESS THAT, IF THAT'S OKAY. HI, GOOD AFTERNOON, EVENING. UM, YEAH, SO WE STARTED COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE PR BEND AND OAK BLUFF COMMUNITIES IN JULY OF 2020. UM, THOSE HAVE BEEN ONGOING. THOSE, CAN YOU SPECIFY WHO EXACTLY. AND WHEN YOU SAY COMMUNITIES YES. PR BEND, UM, PR BEND IS ON THE EASTERN BOUNDARY AND THEN OAK BLUFF ON THE WESTERN BOUNDARY. IS THAT AN EIGHT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION? YES. IS IT A NUMBER OF PEOPLE OR THAT'S WHAT I MEAN BY SPECIFICITY. YES. SO, UM, THE PRUE BEND HAS BEEN, UM, THE PRUE BEND NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HAS BEEN REPRESENTED, UM, BY A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE. UM, ALL I THINK ALMOST ALL OF WHICH ARE BEEN HERE TODAY. UM, SO ABOUT FIVE OR SIX OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD THAT HAVE BEEN PRIMARY POINTS OF COMMUNICATION, UPWARDS OF 10 FOLKS. SO WE HAVE BEEN A REGULAR COMMUNICATION WITH, WITH THAT COLLECTIVE GROUP. THEY'VE BEEN SHARING INFORMATION WITH THEIR COMMUNITY. WE HAVE ALSO BEEN, UM, TO THE OPPOSITE SIDE IS OAK BLUFF. UM, THEIR REPRESENTATIVE, UH, MR. MARK DEL TORO IS HERE TODAY. UM, WE HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH VARIOUS BOARD MEMBERS. UM, ALL OF THAT COMMUNICATION BEGAN IN JULY OF 2020. UM, WE MADE CONTACT WITH ALMO FARMSTEADS IN SEPTEMBER OF 2020. UM, I CAN HAPPILY GO THROUGH OUR FIRST MEETING WITH PR BEND WAS ON AUGUST 5TH, 2022. 2022. [03:40:02] SORRY. THANK YOU. 2022, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YEAR IT IS. UM, AUGUST 5TH WAS OUR FIRST MEETING WITH PR BEND. AUGUST 25TH WAS OUR FIRST MEETING WITH OAK BLUFF. WE HAD A FOLLOW-UP MEETING ON OCTOBER 12TH WITH OAK BLUFF. UM, WE HAD A COLLECTIVE MEETING WITH PR BEND AND OAK BLUFF REPRESENTATIVES ON OCTOBER 17TH. WE MET AGAIN ON FEBRUARY 23RD OF THIS YEAR. AND THEN MOST RECENTLY ON MARCH 24TH, WE HAD A FORMAL MEETING AT THE IGO LIBRARY WITH, UM, DISTRICT SEVEN AND EIGHT NEIGHBORHOOD REPRESENTATIVES. UM, AND MYSELF. THOSE ARE THE FUNCTIONAL FORMAL MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE MET. WE HAVE BEEN, AGAIN, IN CONSISTENT, UH, COMMUNICATION FOR, FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS NOW. UM, THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ANSWERED. UM, THERE ARE FOLKS WHO WOULD LIKE TO KNOW EXACTLY HOW A HOME IS GOING TO BE BUILT HERE. UM, AND WITH ALL DUE RESPECT AND WE ABSOLUTELY UNDERSTAND THOSE CONCERNS. WE HAVE PROVIDED ABSOLUTELY EVERY PIECE OF INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE. UM, AT THIS TIME, THERE ARE EXTENSIVE STUDIES, REGARDLESS OF THE DEVELOPMENT TYPE, THERE IS EXTENSIVE STUDIES THAT GO IN THROUGH WITH THE BUILDING AND THE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT PROCESS. UM, AND, AND NOT ALL OF THOSE STUDIES ARE COMPLETE. THOSE STUDIES WILL DICTATE WHAT DEVELOPMENT PARAMETERS, UM, ARE ADDITIONALLY PUT IN PLACE. UM, WE DID, WE'RE ABLE TO GET TRAFFIC OUT, UM, THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, IT'S ACTUALLY MENTIONED, UM, TO THE SITE TO KINDA SPEED UP AND WORK ON THOSE DISCUSSIONS, ACCESS POINTS, MEDIAN CUTS, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. UM, WE'VE ALREADY INITIATED THE SOIL STUDY, UM, BUT FULL DRAINAGE ANALYSIS, ALL OF THOSE FUNCTIONS ARE, ARE PART OF THE BUILDING AND PLATTING AND PERMITTING STAGES. UM, AND SO WE HAVE COMMITTED TO PROVIDING THAT INFORMATION AS IT BECOMES AVAILABLE AS WE COMPLETE THOSE PROCESSES, KEEPING THESE NEIGHBORHOODS INFORMED. WE HAVE EXTENSIVE POINTS OF CONTACT, UM, WITH, WITH ALL OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND US. UM, AND, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S LOTS OF AVENUES OF COMMUNICATION TO REMAIN IN CONTACT WITH THEM. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. UM, I GUESS IT'S TO ME FOR QUESTIONS. UM, AND THIS IS THE, THE FIRST ONE IS A QUESTION FOR STAFF. UM, AND RECOGNIZING THAT YES, THIS IS, UH, A ZONING AND NOT NECESSARILY ENGINEERING, THERE WAS CONCERNS MENTIONED ABOUT, UH, RIVER MIST AND THE RETAINING WALL ISSUES. CAN YOU COULD SOMEONE BRIEFLY MENTION, SAY THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THE CITY HAS MADE TO THE PERMITTING DEPARTMENT AS FAR AS WHEN RETAINING WALLS ARE NOW CONSTRUCTED, IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE. SO I AM NOT AWARE THAT THERE ARE RETAINING WALLS THAT WILL BE REQUIRED FOR THIS PROJECT AS WE GET FURTHER DOWN IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. IF THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS FOR RETAINING WALL, YES, THE, UM, STEPS IN REVIEW AND INSPECTIONS HAVE CHANGED BASED OFF OF THE PAST EXPERIENCES. AND WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT WE HAVE THE STEPS IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT THAT SITUATION WILL NOT OCCUR AGAIN. OKAY. SO ADDITIONAL STEPS SUCH AS LIKE A GLOBAL STABILITY ANALYSIS PERFORMED BY AN ADDITIONAL ENGINEER? NOT THAT WE'VE HAD TO DEAL WITH THAT ON MY PROJECTS, BUT YES, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. RIGHT. WE HAVE, WE, WE DO OUR INTERNAL REVIEWS. OKAY. BUT WE DO PRO REQUIRE THIRD PARTY ENGINEERING INFORMATION OR ARCHITECTURAL INFORMATION DEPENDING UPON THE SCENARIO FROM THE, UM, APPLICANT, UH, APPLICANT'S CONSULTANTS. OKAY, GREAT. UM, AND THEN I GUESS THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE, IT WAS, I GUESS, INFERRED BY THE APPLICANT PERHAPS THAT IF THIS WAS R SIX, THAT THE SITE COULD BE ALMOST FLATTENED. AND IS THAT KIND OF A TRUE STATEMENT? IF THIS WAS, YOU KNOW, WHAT I'M ASKING IS IF THE, IF THE ZONING WERE LEFT ALONE, DOES THE CITY, WOULD THE CITY ALLOW EXTENSIVE REGRADING OF THE PROPERTY TO ALMOST FLATTEN TO, TO ALLOW A SUBDIVISION TO BE BUILT WITH LIKE A HIGHER RETAINING WALL OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, TO AN R SIX? THAT'S A, A VERY HYPOTHETICAL QUESTION. UM, WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT THE R SIX WOULD ALLOW UP TO 80 DWELLING UNITS. I WOULD ANTICIPATE THE APPLICANT WOULD BE DIFFICULT [03:45:01] IN TRYING TO, UH, GAIN 80 DWELLING UNITS WITH THE, UM, LOT THE WAY IT IS TODAY. I, I ANTICIPATE IF THEY WANTED TO GET AS MANY UNITS AS THEY COULD IN THERE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO RECONFIGURE THE PROPERTY WITHOUT SEEING THE TOPO OR THE GRADING PLANS FOR THIS. THAT'S A DIFFICULT RESPONSE TO PROVIDE YOU, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, BUT I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IS SUCH EXTENSIVE REGRADING ALLOWED BY THE CITY? IT COULD BE, COULD BE. IF THEY ARE, UM, PROPOSING COMPLIANCE WITH ALL OF OUR REGULATIONS AND THEY CAN MEET THAT, THEN YES, THERE, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT THEY COULD BE, THAT MEANS THEY STILL HAVE TO MEET STORM WATER, THEY STILL HAVE TO MEET TRAFFIC, THEY STILL HAVE TO MEET TREES, UM, IN ALL OF THESE SCENARIOS. OKAY. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. UM, AND, AND I BELIEVE IT WAS EITHER ASHLEY OR I'M NOT SURE IF YOU ANSWERED WHY WE DID NOT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I, I SAW IT SAID E E R Z D AND I WAS WONDERING WHY SAWS, IT'S BECAUSE OF THAT ONE PART WAS REMOVED. YES. OKAY. AND, AND THE, I MEAN THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY, THIS IS A BETTER MAP THAN I HAVE. UM, SO YOU CAN SEE THE, THE RECHARGE ZONE LINE RIGHT HERE. SO IT RUNS THROUGH THE PR BEND NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, UH, THE LEON CREEK GREENWAY, AND THEN THAT, LIKE I SAID, THAT THE PROPERTY HAS THIS LITTLE SEWER EASEMENT THAT COMES OFF THE END. AND THAT WAS WHAT WAS IN THE E R C D. OKAY. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE DON'T HAVE SAWS HERE TODAY, I GUESS. OKAY. AND WE SHOWED THE, UH, SITE PLAN TO THE, UH, TO SAWS AND THEY MADE THAT DETERMINATION THAT THEY DIDN'T NEED TO DO A SAWS REPORT BECAUSE OF THE SITE PLAN. OKAY. OKAY, GREAT. UM, I'M READING THROUGH MY NOTES, SORRY. I BELIEVE THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE. SO, UH, BACK TO YOU COMMISSIONER ORTIZ FOR POSSIBLE MOTION. THANK YOU CHAIR. ACTUALLY, I HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT FOR STAFF. I JUST RECALLED SOMETHING AT A MEETING WE HAD LAST WEEK WHEN I MET WITH THEM LAST FRIDAY. THEY MADE A COMMENT THAT THERE WAS SOME CONSTRUCTION DONE ON PRUE ROAD, BUT A, A TRAFFIC LIGHT WAS REMOVED THAT COULD TO SLOW, SLOW THE TRAFFIC DOWN, UP, DOWN, COMING DOWN. AND I WASN'T SURE IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED AND SEE IF THEY CAN PUT THAT THERE'S LIKE A, YOU KNOW, THOSE BLINKING YELLOW LIGHTS. APPARENTLY THERE WAS ONE THERE WHEN THERE WAS DOING SOME CONSTRUCTION AND IT WAS REMOVED AND SOMEONE HAD BROUGHT THAT TO MY ATTENTION. IF THERE WAS A WAY TO BRING THAT TR UH, THAT LIGHT BACK INTO PRU ROAD WHERE IT SLOWS TRAFFIC DOWN COMING DOWN THAT HILL. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THOSE CONDOS THAT WERE BEING BUILT? YES, SIR. THE EAST, I MEAN THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE THROUGH THE TRAFFIC TRAFFIC AFTER. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE I BROUGHT THAT TO MY ATTENTION TOO. OKAY. UM, I HAVE NO MORE, SORRY, I WAS JUST GONNA GO AHEAD AND, UM, I HAVE SOME COMMENTS HERE, BUT, UM, JUST GO AHEAD AND THANK EVERYONE FOR COMING OUT TODAY, INCLUDING EVERYBODY WHO STAYED HERE THIS LONG TO SPEAK TO US. ALL THE VOICEMAILS THAT CAME THROUGH, UM, AND HONESTLY JUST VOICING THEIR OPINIONS AND CONCERNS. THIS CASE IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT. UM, AND EVERYONE IS AWARE THAT IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR SOME TIME. UM, THERE HAVE BEEN MANY DISCUSSIONS BETWEEN THE APPLICANT'S SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES TO FIND THIS SOME TYPE OF RESOLUTION AND I HOPE THERE CAN BE ONE. UM, NOW THAT BEING SAID, NOW THAT BEING THAT WE'RE JUST A ZONE ZONING GOVERNING BODY AND ONLY MAKING A RECOMMENDATION FOR FINAL DECISION, THIS WILL COME DOWN TO CITY COUNCIL. UM, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THIS IS A DIFFICULT CASE. AND AFTER MEETING WITH SOME OF THE RESIDENTS, H O A REPRESENTATIVES LAST FRIDAY, I UNDERSTAND THAT ARE CONCERNS IN THE WORK THAT THEY'VE PUT INTO THIS CASE. THAT WAS THE REASON WHY I'VE BEEN WALKED THE PROPERTY LAST NIGHT. UM, THIS THEN IT, THIS THEN WILL BE DEVELOPED AND BEING THAT IT, THE OWNER IS WILLING TO PRESERVE THE LAND AND ALLOW PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE TRAILS, THE OWNER WILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE CITY DEVELOPMENT FEMA SAWS, WHICH WE JUST HEARD RIGHT NOW AS WELL PRIOR TO COMPLETING ANY OF THE DENSITY, UM, THAT COULD BE REDUCED. THIS DEVELOPMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE EBNER LEON CREEK COMMUNITY AND THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION. AND I'LL BE SUPPORTING CITY STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER SIX. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. OH. ALL RIGHT. SO MOTION FOR APPROVAL WITH A BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. UM, OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION. UH, WE'LL START ON MY LEFT. JUST A QUICK POINT OF INFORMATION, MR. CHAIR, WAS THIS AN AMENDED APPLICATION AT THIS POINT OR IS IT THIS WAS FILED. OKAY. SORRY. THANK YOU. JUST WANNA CHECK THAT. ALRIGHT, SO ANY DISCUSSION? NO, UM, I THINK AS COMMISSIONER ORTIZ MENTIONED, THIS IS A DIFFICULT CASE AND I APPRECIATE ALL OF Y'ALL COMING OUT. UM, BUT LIKE HIM, GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESERVE APPROXIMATELY THREE TO FOUR ACRES [03:50:02] OF THIS LAND FOR PUBLIC USE, I AM ALSO GOING TO SUPPORT THE MOTION. ALRIGHT. UM, ANY, OKAY. COMMISSIONER WATSON, UM, IT WAS A DIFFICULT CASE FOR ME AS WELL. UM, BUT I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION, UH, FOR TWO PRIMARY REASONS. UH, THE PROPOSED R FIVE PUD LEAVES MORE IMPERVIOUS COVER AVAILABLE, UM, THAN AN R SIX WOULD. UM, AND I THINK THAT WILL HELP ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS ABOUT HOW THE SITE WILL BE DEVELOPED AND THE IMPACT OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE THAT WERE RAISED BY SOME OF THE COMMUNITY. UH, BUT ADDITIONALLY, BECAUSE IN THE BUILDING PERMITTING AND PLATING PROCESS, THOSE ADDITIONAL STUDIES WILL BE REQUIRED. UM, I THINK SOME OF THE CONCERNS WILL BE ADDRESSED AND IF THERE IS AN UNTENABLE CONSTRUCTION SITUATION THAT EMERGES WITH THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN AND PROJECT AS IT IS, THAT WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WE CAN'T NECESSARILY GOVERN IN OUR, OR CONSIDER IN OUR RECOMMENDATION, UM, AS A ZONING COMMISSION, BUT WILL PROVIDE PROTECTION, UH, FOR THE COMMUNITY ON A SITE THAT UNFORTUNATELY IS LIKELY TO BE DEVELOPED EVEN IF, YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY'S BEEN ENJOYING IT BEING USED ESSENTIALLY AS A PARK. UM, WHICH UNFORTUNATELY WE CAN'T CONTROL PRIVATE PROPERTY. TOTALLY. UM, SO I THINK THIS IS THE BEST POSSIBLE OUTCOME, UM, THAT WE CAN GET FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT REFLECTS YOUR CONCERNS. AND, UH, I HAVE SOME CONFIDENCE THAT THOSE ADDITIONAL STUDIES WILL HELP, UM, ADDRESS TO AND SPEAK TO, UM, SOME OF THE VERY VALID CONCERNS YOU ALL RAISED TODAY. UH, AND ONCE AGAIN, WANT TO REITERATE THE IMPORTANCE OF CONTINUED COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND THAT THOSE REPORTS BE MADE AVAILABLE, UH, BY THE APPLICANT AND THE REPRESENTATIVES, UM, AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, WHICH, UM, I, I FULLY EXPECT YOU TO DO AND TO CONTINUE WORKING TOGETHER BETWEEN NOW AND COUNCIL. ALRIGHT. UH, CUMMINS COMMISSIONER'S ON MY RIGHT. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, I'LL ALSO BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION. UM, I THINK THAT THIS IS A DIFFICULT CASE AND I TRULY UNDERSTAND ALL OF YOUR CONCERNS. UM, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS IN IN OUR AREA WHO ARE EXPERIENCING SIMILAR ISSUES WITH, UM, INCREASED DENSITY, INCREASED DEVELOPMENT, UM, ENVIRONMENTALLY, UH, SENSITIVE AREAS OR AREAS THAT ARE BELIEVED TO BE ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE. I KNOW BECAUSE I HAVE PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH THIS, HOWEVER, THERE'S A LOT OF FACTORS THAT WE HAVE TO WEIGH UP HERE AS ZONING COMMISSIONERS AND, UM, MANY OF THOSE FACTORS, UM, INCLUDE THINGS LIKE PUBLIC POLICY. AND AGAIN, AS I'VE ALREADY MENTIONED, I THINK AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS A REALLY BIG ISSUE THAT WE'RE FACING HERE IN THE COMMUNITY. I DO THINK THAT THE, THE, THE, UM, FACTORS ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL SENSITIVITY ARE VERY IMPORTANT. UM, HOWEVER, I DO KNOW THAT, UH, MORE DENSE, UM, DEVELOPMENT CAN ACTUALLY BE BETTER FOR, IN TERMS OF REDUCING STORM WATER RUNOFF. UM, AND IN TERMS OF UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE A 74% DECREASE PER UNIT AND AS DEMONSTRATED BY THE, UM, THE APPLICANT WE'RE LOOKING AT A, A REDUCTION BY 50%, WHAT IS, UM, ACTUALLY BEING, UM, PROPOSED HERE VERSUS WHAT IT COULD BE WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. SO I THINK THAT FOR ME WAS REALLY THE FACTOR THAT, UM, THAT IS KIND OF PUSHING ME IN THAT DIRECTION IS WHILE I DO UNDERSTAND ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT IS DISPOSITIVE THAT A LOWER DENSITY DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS WHAT IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED AT AND COULD BE DEVELOPED AS BY RIGHT. I DON'T HAVE TO GO GET ANY OTHER APPROVALS OTHER THAN GOING THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO THROUGH FOR THIS. SO IT'S NOT THAT LOWER DENSITY NECESSARILY MEANS THAT IT'S BETTER FOR THE ENVIRONMENT. SO THAT'S REALLY KIND OF WHERE I'M AT BETWEEN THAT AND THE PUBLIC POLICY OF THE, THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS. SO FOR THOSE REASONS I'LL BE, UH, SUPPORTING THE MOTION. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT? COMMISSIONER , QUICK ON COMMENT. I WISH I HAD AS MUCH EXPERIENCE UNDER MY BELT AS MY COLLEAGUES HERE. UH, FOR THIS REASON, I WILL BE ABSTAINING FROM THIS VOTE BECAUSE I REALLY TRULY CANNOT SAY THAT I CAN RELY ON MY ABILITY TO UNDERSTAND ALL THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED HERE. UM, AND TO GIVE, UH, UH, SUPPORT BASED ON COMFORT LEVEL. AND SO, UM, I UNDERSTAND ALL THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE AND I FULLY RESPECT MY COLLEAGUES HERE, BUT ERRING ON THE SIDE OF COMMUNITY AND I WISH THAT THERE WAS A BETTER TRUST RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN, UH, THOSE REPRESENTING, REPRESENTING THE DEVELOPERS AND THE CONCERNS THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS SHARED HERE TODAY. OKAY, GREAT. UH, ALRIGHT. UM, I GUESS TO ME FOR FINAL COMMENTS, YES, AS EVERYONE HAS SAID, THIS IS A HUGELY DIFFICULT CASE. UM, AND THERE WAS A CASE IN DISTRICT SEVEN THAT WAS SIMILAR TO THIS IN MY OPINION. UM, WE HAD A CASE OFF OF BRAUN ROAD OUTSIDE 1604, THERE [03:55:01] WAS AN AREA OF, OF PRIVATE LAND ADJACENT TO ESSENTIALLY A PARK. PEOPLE ASSUMED THAT IT WAS PUBLIC LAND. UM, AND THEY WERE, WHEN, WHEN, WHEN THE DEVELOPER CAME FORTH WITH A PLAN TO DEVELOP IT, THEY WERE REALLY, REALLY UPSET WITH THAT. UM, THROUGH NEIGHBORHOOD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DEVELOPER, MUCH LIKE Y'ALL HAVE HAD, UH, THE PLAN THAT CAME FROM THAT PRESERVED A GREATER, A GREAT PORTION OF THAT PROPERTY TO BE OPEN SPACE AND TO BE, UM, YOU KNOW, LEFT ALONE. AND IT WAS ACCOMPLISHED BY PUSHING SOME OF THE DENSITY TO ANOTHER PORTION OF THE PROPERTY. UM, THE REASON I ASKED ABOUT THE, UH, CLEAR CUTTING AND THINGS LIKE THAT, UM, IT GROWING UP ON OFF OF BRON ROAD, I THOUGHT, OH, WELL THERE'S NO WAY IN THIS, YOU KNOW, THE BEGINNING OF THE HILL COUNTRY, THERE'S NO WAY SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES ARE EVER GONNA BE DEVELOPED. AND I WOULD CONSTANTLY SEE CLEAR CUTTING AND, AND FILL AND FLATTENING OF, OF THE LAND AND, UH, DESTRUCTION OF THE NATURAL HABITAT. AND FOR ME, UM, I WAS UNCONSCIONABLE, BUT I I, I SEE THIS PROJECT AS THE, THE COMPROMISE WHERE WE CAN PROTECT MORE OF THE NATURAL HABITAT IN ITS NATURAL STATE AND STILL ACCOMPLISH, YOU KNOW, AN ESSENTIALLY LOW DENSITY DEVELOPMENT. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I WANNA THINK, I MEAN, THE NEIGHBORS, Y'ALL REALLY, Y'ALL REALLY DID A TON OF RESEARCH AND I THINK THAT ONLY IS GOING TO HELP THIS PROJECT BECOME A BETTER PROJECT. UM, I MEAN, I'M EMBARRASSED TO SAY I HAD NOT HEARD ABOUT THE, THE STEEP SLOPE CONDITIONS, UM, OF, OF, YOU KNOW, AFFECTING, YOU KNOW, IN THE U D C WHERE THAT AFFECTS YOUR USABLE AREA. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION. UM, BUT THE PROTECTION, THE OVERALL PROTECTION I THINK IS, IS THE, UH, IS A, IS A COMPROMISE THAT THAT, THAT WE'LL MAKE FOR A BETTER PROJECT. AND SO WITH THAT, WELL THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ. SECOND BY, IT WAS YOU, RIGHT , SORRY. UH, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, IF WE GOTTA HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER FUENTES. AYE. COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE. AYE. CHAIR SIPES? YES. ITEM PASSES. ALRIGHT, THANK Y'ALL. UM, AND HOPEFULLY I'LL STILL HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN NOW AND COUNCIL. WE ARE ON ITEM 11. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS ADOLFO GONZALEZ, JOINING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER 11 IS LOCATED AT 1 3 5 FUENTE ALLEY THREE GOING FROM RMM FOUR TO I D Z TWO WITH USES PERMITTED FOR SIX DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OTHER OVERLAYS STAYING THE SAME. THERE WERE 42 NOTICES SENT OUT. ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED. DENVER HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN OPPOSITION. THE EXISTING RM FOUR IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPOSED IDC TWO MEDIUM INTENSITY INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR SIX DWELLING UNITS IS ALSO AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED AND A ABOVE OF THE PROPERTY ZONED RM FOUR. THE AREA CURRENTLY ACCOMMODATES COMPARABLE RESIDENTIAL DENSITIES ON LOTS PLACED AND SIZE SIMILARLY TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. GIVEN THE SUBJECT'S PROPERTY SIZE, THE PROPOSED SIX DWELLING UNITS WILL NOT INCREASE THE ESTABLISHED DENSITY AND ALIGNS WITH THE GOALS OF THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATIONS TO THIS ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE. HI, GOOD EVENING. UH, MY NAME IS FERRAN ORIA AND UH, I AM THE DEVELOPER FOR THIS PROJECT. UM, I DID BRING A LITTLE PRESENTATION. UM, I WILL TRY TO MAKE IT AS QUICK AS [04:00:01] POSSIBLE SO THAT WE ALL GO HOME. THIS ROOM GOT REALLY EMPTY REALLY QUICKLY, SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THIS OVER WITH AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, UM, AND AVOID THE TRAFFIC. BUT, UH, YES, SO I REPRESENT FEMA INVESTMENTS, UM, L L C. UM, GO AHEAD AND, UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. UH, PRETTY MUCH ABOUT MYSELF AND MY BUSINESS. JUST REAL START, UH, SMALL STARTUP, UH, DEVELOPMENT BUSINESS, UM, GOING THROUGH THE BANK WITH ALL, WITH ALL THIS. AND SO I AM CURRENTLY INCURRING A BUNCH OF INTEREST AND THE MORE TIME, YOU KNOW, WE WAIT ON THIS, BUT I BELIEVE THAT'S FOR THE GREATER GOOD BECAUSE I DO WANT TO DEVELOP, UM, THE CORRECT WAY, THE SAFE WAY AND AS WELL AS WITH ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAW IN THE CITY. NEXT SLIDE. UH, SO RIGHT NOW I TOOK A SCREENSHOT OF THE ONE STOP MAP THAT IS AVAILABLE, UM, FOR PUBLIC RECORD. UM, AND I NOTICED THAT THERE IS ALREADY AN IDZ TWO HERE IN, UH, IN THE AREA. SO IT IS NOT LIKE I'M INTRODUCING, UH, IDZ TWO, LIKE COMPLETELY NEW TO THE AREA AS WELL AS THE FACT THAT THERE'S A BUNCH OF COMMERCIAL, UM, AROUND THE AREA WITH MORE I D Z HERE AND HERE. AND ALSO THE FACT THAT, UM, ALL I'M ASKING IS FOR TWO EXTRA UNITS. UM, I TECHNICALLY COULD DO NINE TOTAL UNITS WITH IDZ TWO, UH, BUT THAT IS WAY TOO MANY FOR THE SIZE OF THE LOT AS WELL AS UNCOMFORTABLE FOR ANYBODY WHO PURCHASES THE LOT OR THE THE BUILDINGS. UM, SO I DO WANT TO GIVE ADEQUATE SPACE TO ANYBODY WHO PURCHASES THESE, UH, DUPLEXES. UM, NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN THAT I HAVE SO FAR. SO HERE IS THE LOT. SO IT'S VERY LONG BUT VERY, UM, NOT VERY WIDE. AND SO I WOULD PUT A DUPLEX HERE. SO THIS IS A SHARED WALL RIGHT HERE, A DUPLEX HERE, AND A DUPLEX RIGHT HERE. AND, UM, THE CITY ASKED FOR SOME EXTRA INFORMATION AND ALL THAT EXTRA INFORMATION IS RIGHT THERE REGARDING, UM, FENCE, WHICH IT WILL HAVE. AND, UH, UH, MORE INFORMATION REGARDING IMPERVIOUS COVER AND DRIVEWAY THINGS. UM, READ THAT AS UM, I HAD MY ARCHITECT, UH, BRING UP THAT INFORMATION LIKE LAST WEEK. UM, BUT YEAH, THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN. SO, UM, AS OF RIGHT NOW IT IS JUST TOTAL, UH, A TOTAL OF SIX IDENTICAL UNITS. THERE WILL BE TWO STORIES HIGH, UM, APPROXIMATELY 22 FEET. UM, IT'LL BE THREE BEDROOMS, THREE AND A HALF BATH. AND, UM, AFTER THE REZONING PROCESS WE WILL HAVE TO REPL. UM, AND I AM A BID A, A BIG ADVOCATE FOR, UM, PROVIDING HOUSING AT AN AFFORDABLE LEVEL. SO, UH, BUT IN ORDER TO DO THAT I DO HAVE TO PUT THAT EXTRA, THOSE EXTRA TWO UNITS, UH, TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME SORT OF RETURN ON INVESTMENT. 'CAUSE OF COURSE I DO WANNA MAKE MONEY ON THIS IN INVEST ON IN THIS, ON THIS INVESTMENT. UM, BUT IT WOULD BE MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TO PROVIDE THAT MORE AFFORDABLE LEVEL OF PRICING IF I HAVE SIX UNITS VERSUS THE TYPICAL FOUR. GO AHEAD. THIS IS JUST, UH, WHAT THE PROJECT WILL LOOK LIKE. IT WILL, IT WILL HAVE A VERY MODERN LOOK. UM, OF COURSE COLOR, UM, AND DESIGN ARE SUSCEPTIBLE TO CHANGE. UM, SINCE, YOU KNOW, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SITE PLAN, BUT DEPENDING ON HOW IT LOOKS AND OTHER FACTORS THAT MAY NOT BE PUT INTO CONSIDERATION TODAY, THINGS MIGHT CHANGE WITH JUST THE AESTHETICS. BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, UM, THIS IS WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE. NEXT SLIDE. AND THEN THAT'S JUST A, A WIDER VIEW. AND OF COURSE THIS IS A RENDERING. I DO WANNA REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THIS IS THE EXACT PRESENTATION I DID SHOW THE DENVER HEIGHTS ASSOCIATION AND THEY THOUGHT THAT THIS IS ALL CLEAR AREA AND THAT IS NOT THE CASE. [04:05:01] THERE ARE HOUSES AROUND HERE AND ONE HOUSE BEHIND THIS DUPLEX, BUT TO THE SIDES OF IT AND BEHIND THESE TWO DUPLEXES, IT IS COMPLETELY EMPTY. NEXT SLIDE. YES, THANK YOU. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER 'EM. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM. ALRIGHT, THIS IS A DISTRICT TWO CASE, I BELIEVE SO TO YOU FOR COMM COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. UH, FIRST I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. UM, WITH THE CURRENT RMM FOUR ZONING, HOW MANY UNITS WOULD BE PERMITTED ON THIS PROPERTY? I APOLOGIZE, CAN YOU PLEASE REPEAT YOUR QUESTION? I APOLOGIZE. UH, WITH THE CURRENT RM FOUR ZONING, HOW MANY UNITS WOULD BE PERMITTED ON THE PROPERTY? RMM FOUR PERMITS ONLY, UH, FOUR UNITS ON THE PROPERTY. BUT BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF IT, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT, I BELIEVE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS UM, 8,250 SQUARE FEET. SO RMM FOUR PERMITS, 4,000 SQUARE FEET MINIMUM. SO HE COULD POTENTIALLY REPL THIS INTO TWO PROPERTIES, KEEPING THE RMM FOUR AND THEN THAT WOULD ENTAIL EIGHT UNITS. THANK YOU. UH, ALRIGHT. MY NEXT SERIES OF QUESTIONS IS FOR THE APPLICANT. UM, JUST A FEW CLARIFYING QUESTIONS. UH, FIRST OF ALL, YOU MENTIONED AFFORDABILITY AND FROM WHAT YOU SHARED, I GLEAN THAT YOU WERE PLANNING ON MAKING THESE HOMES FOR SALE, NOT PRESERVING THEM YOURSELF UNDER BUSINESS AND RENTING THEM. IS THAT CORRECT? YES MA'AM. OKAY. YES MA'AM. SORRY. YEAH, JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I, I CONFIRMED AND CLARIFIED THAT. UM, COULD YOU PLEASE ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ON WHY YOU CHOSE I D Z TWO OR STAFF RECOMMENDED I D Z TWO TO YOU RATHER THAN I D Z ONE? YES, UH, BECAUSE WITH I D Z ONE, UM, I COULD NOT PUT SIX UNITS, I WOULD ONLY BE ABLE TO PUT THREE I BELIEVE IF I REZONED TO I D Z ONE. UM, AND AS WELL AS THE FACT THAT THE RM FOUR SETBACKS ARE PRETTY HEAVY ON THIS LOT SPECIFICALLY SINCE IT'S 50 FEET IN, UH, IN WIDTH. UM, SO, AND I BELIEVE RM FOUR SETBACKS ARE 10, UH, FOOT IN FRONT AND REAR. SO THAT WOULD LEAVE ME WITH ONLY 30 FEET TO WORK WITH. UM, AND I Z SETBACKS ARE, I BELIEVE FIVE FEET ALL AROUND. AND SO THAT JUST HELPS IMMENSELY WITH UM, BEING ABLE TO BUILD SOMETHING NICE AND COMFORTABLE FOR PEOPLE IN THERE. UM, AND THEN I BELIEVE I SAW THIS ON THE SITE PLAN, BUT YOU JUST, IF YOU COULD JUST CONFIRM ME FOR ME ON ALL SIDES, YOU ARE DOING FIVE FOOT SETBACKS? YES, MA'AM. IS WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE, MA'AM. OKAY. INCLUDING THE FRONT. I, I MEAN I SEE THAT THERE'S THAT CAR REPORT, BUT THERE DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL SPACE BESIDES LIKE ANY REAL, REAL FRONTAGE ON THE, THE PROPERTY. WELL THIS IS A, A LITTLE DRIVEWAY THAT GOES INTO OKAY, BUT IT'S NOT GREEN SPACE OR IMPERVIOUS COVER? NO MA'AM. OKAY. PLEASE ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ON, UH, WHAT FEEDBACK, IF ANY YOU RECEIVED, BUT I BELIEVE IT WAS JUST THE BOARD, NOT THE ASSOCIATION. FROM WHAT I JUST SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHO WAS AT THIS MEETING AND FEEDBACK YOU MAY HAVE RECEIVED. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. SO, UM, YES I DO BELIEVE I MET WITH ONLY THE BOARD AND THE, THE, THE PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD IS AUBREY LEWIS, I BELIEVE HIS NAME IS. UM, AND HE, AFTER I SHOWED HIM THIS PRESENTATION, UM, UH, I GOT A LETTER A FEW DAYS LATER SAYING THAT HE WAS IN DENIAL OF THIS. UH, BUT HE DID NOT STATE A SPECIFIC REASON WHY. AND AFTER I EMAILED HIM BACK ASKING IF HE COULD PROVIDE SOME FEEDBACK, I DID NOT GET AN ANSWER. SO IT'S JUST HARD TO TRY AND ACCOMMODATE TO THE DENVER HEIGHTS ASSOCIATION WITHOUT AN ANSWER. 'CAUSE I DO WANT TO TRY, I GENUINELY DO. OKAY. AND THEN HAVE YOU DONE ANY ADDITIONAL BLOCK WALKING WITHIN THE 200 FEET BEYOND MEETING WITH THE DENVER HEIGHTS BOARD? I HAVE, BUT NOT FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF GETTING SIGNATURES FOR APPROVAL OF THE I DISEASE ZONING. UM, I MOSTLY JUST TALKED WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, WITH THE NEIGHBORS AS I WAS LOOKING TO PURCHASE THIS, UH, BECAUSE I ALREADY HAD MY SITE PLAN SET BEFORE I PURCHASED. AND, UH, [04:10:01] VERBALLY EVERYBODY WAS COOL ABOUT IT. NOBODY REALLY WAS IN DENIAL. EITHER THEY WERE NEUTRAL OR THEY WERE FOR IT. OF COURSE, THIS IS BEFORE I PURCHASED A LOT, SO I DON'T HAVE ANY SORT OF PROOF FOR THIS. UM, BUT THEY WERE, ONE SPECIFIC COMMENT I GOT WAS THAT THEY WERE GLAD SOMETHING IS BEING BUILT HERE BECAUSE, UM, IT'LL MOTIVATE, HOPEFULLY OTHER DEVELOPERS OR BUILDERS TO BUILD AROUND THE AREA BECAUSE, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE BEEN TO THAT AREA SPECIFICALLY, UM, BUT IT JUST DOESN'T LOOK THE NICEST. UM, SO PEOPLE, THERE'S A LOT OF THEFT AND STUFF AND SO WITH NICER LOOKING, UH, BUILDINGS AND DEVELOPMENTS, THAT TENDS TO KIND OF DRIVE AWAY THAT SORT OF STUFF. UM, AND THEY SAID THEY, THAT THEY COULD RAISE THEIR PROPERTY VALUE, SO THEY'RE HAPPY ABOUT THAT. OKAY. SO, UH, I'M GONNA PROPOSE, UM, A FEW, WELL, I GUESS I SHOULD LET MY OTHER COMMISSIONERS SPEAK, UM, OR ASK QUESTIONS BEFORE I PROPOSE ANYTHING, UM, AND MAKE SOME ADDITIONAL SUGGESTIONS TO YOU. BUT I APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION AND MY COMMENTS WILL REFLECT WHAT, WHAT YOU'VE SAID. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WATSON. ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER'S ON MY LEFT. NONE. COMMISSIONER'S ON MY RIGHT. ALRIGHT. RIGHT BACK TO YOU. OKAY. UM, SO THERE IS GOING TO, IT IS LIKELY THAT AS THIS PROCEEDS TOWARD COUNCIL, UH, IT WILL BE BENEFICIAL TO YOU TO HAVE WRITTEN, WRITTEN STATEMENTS OF SUPPORT FROM THE PROPERTY OWNERS OR WHICH, OR RESIDENTS IF THERE ARE RENTERS. UM, WHICH WE, WE CONSIDER AS WELL, UM, WITHIN THE IMMEDIATE 200 FEET, ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU DIDN'T GET SPECIFIC FEEDBACK FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ABOUT CONCESSIONS THAT WERE MADE, UM, OR THAT COULD BE MADE TO MAKE THEM MORE SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROPERTY. AND, UM, IT IS A LITTLE BIT CHALLENGING TO GET CONNECTED WITH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. SO I COMMEND YOU FOR THE ATTEMPT, UM, AND THE COUNCIL OFFICE AND MYSELF ARE COMMITTED TO HOSTING A COMMUNITY MEETING AT OUR FIELD OFFICE. UM, AND WE'LL START WORKING ON SETTING THAT UP TOMORROW. 'CAUSE I KNOW YOU HAVE, UH, SOME TIME SENSITIVITY. I WOULD STILL PLAN ON IT TAKING A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, UM, DEPENDING ON, ON WHETHER WE CAN GET FLYERS AND THINGS OUT. BUT WE ARE GONNA TRY AND DO THAT QUICKLY. UM, BUT THE BIGGEST CONCERNS THAT I WOULD ANTICIPATE MAY HAVE INFORMED THAT DECISION OR TOUCH ON THINGS THAT I QUES I ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT SPECIFICALLY HOW, UM, HOW THE SETBACKS ARE ONLY FIVE FEET. IT'S A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE THAN SOME OF THE OTHER, UM, PROPERTIES IN THE AREA, UM, ON THAT STREET THAT HAVE MUCH BIGGER SETBACKS. SO IT CHANGES THE DESIGN FEATURES A LITTLE BIT, UM, ON THE STREET, EVEN THOUGH IT IS AN, AN AREA THAT NEEDS TO BE REDEVELOPED BECAUSE OF THAT VACANCY. THE VACANCY ISSUE IS A BIG CHALLENGE, ESPECIALLY IN DENVER HEIGHTS. UM, SO IT CHANGES IT SO DRAMATICALLY, UM, FOR WHAT'S ON THAT STREET IS WOULD BE THE REASON I WOULD ANTICIPATE YOU HAVING SOME PUSHBACK. UM, SO IF WE TALK TO THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS AND THEY DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE, THEN GREAT. BUT, UM, I THINK WE, WE NEED, WE OWE IT TO THEM TO TAKE THE TIME TO MAKE SURE AND FIND OUT WHAT THEY, UH, WHAT THEIR CONCERNS ARE, IF ANY, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO, UH, GET A, A GOOD PROJECT FOR YOU AND A GOOD PROJECT FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE FOR TWO WEEKS, UM, AND COMMIT TO YOU THAT WE'LL HELP YOU SET UP A COMMUNITY MEETING TO, TO GET THAT FEEDBACK. UM, AND THEN IF WE NEED TO MAKE AMENDMENTS, YOU KNOW, WE MAY HAVE TO, BUT I THINK THAT'LL BE A GOOD NEXT STEP. ALL RIGHT, SO, UM, THERE'S A MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. WHICH I COULDN'T TELL WHICH SIDE THAT CAME FROM. OKAY. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ. ANY DISCUSSION? LOOKING LEFT. LOOKING RIGHT. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER FUENTES. AYE. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE. AYE. CHAIR SIPES? YES. ITEM PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE. ALRIGHT, SEE YOU IN TWO WEEKS. UM, LAST ITEM ITEM. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. RIGHT, GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS CAMERON BLACKMAN, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER 13 IS GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE 7,000 BLOCK OF MAINLAND DRIVE GOING FROM R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY TO M F 18 LIMITED LIMITED DENSITY MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT WITH ALL OVERLAYS STAYING THE SAME. THERE WERE 68 NOTICES SENT OUT ONE IN FAVOR, EIGHT OPPOSED NO RESPONSE FROM BANDERA LANDING TOWNHOMES HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION AND TWO OPPOSED OUTSIDE OF 200 FEET. THE EXISTING RX RESIDENT, R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPOSED MF 18 LIMITED DENSITY MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICT IS ALSO APPROPRIATE FOR THE PROPERTY. THE PROPOSED REZONING REQUEST IS TO PERMIT 39 UNITS WITHIN THE TWO POINT 19 ACRE VACANT ACRE VACANT LOT. GIVEN THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY VACANT [04:15:01] AND IS WITHIN PROXIMITY TO MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL USES, THE PROPOSED REQUEST WILL NOT HAVE AN ADVERSE IMPACT ON THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA. ADDITIONALLY, THE PROPOSED USE WILL ALSO PROVIDE AN ALTERNATIVE HOUSING TYPE TO THE AREA AND ALIGNS WITH THE GOALS OF THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN TO PROVIDE MORE HOUSING FOR GROWING HOUSING NEEDS. STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THIS ZONING TO THIS ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA. SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE ZONED R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT AND RMM FOUR RESIDENTIAL MIXED DISTRICT STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY, GREAT. IF WE COULD HAVE THAT APPLICANT PLEASE. AND WHILE YOU'RE COMING UP, IF I COULD PUT IT ON THE RECORD THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER LA HOLLAND LEFT THE MEETING AT FIVE 20. THANKS. HELLO? OH, BLESS YOU. . ALL RIGHTY. UH, MY NAME IS NATHAN HAWKINS. GOOD EVENING. UH, AND I'M HERE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT HERE AT, UH, ZERO MAINLAND DRIVE. IT ACTUALLY DOESN'T HAVE AN ADDRESS, SO WHEN PEOPLE ASK ME FOR THEIR ADDRESS, I IT JUST HAD GIVE EM ZERO BECAUSE IT DOESN'T CURRENTLY HAVE ONE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. UH, I'M SEEKING A ZONING CHANGE FROM RMM SIX TO MF 18. I THINK IT COMPLIMENTS AND ALIGNS WITH THE NORTHWEST PLAN BY ADDING HOUSING UNITS AND THAT IS ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT THE CITY STAFF JUST STATED. AND AGAIN, I'M GOING FOR MF 18, WHICH IS A LIMITED DENSITY, UH, MULTI-FAMILY DESIGNATION. UH, NOW I ORIGINALLY STARTED OFF AT MF 33 AND AFTER HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, THE PARKLAND, THE TRAIL CREEK. TRAIL CREEK, YEAH. THE GATED COMMUNITY OFFICER THERE OFF MAINLAND. AND THEN I DID BLOCK WALKING. I PUT OUT FLYERS. WE HAD OUR OWN COMMUNITY MEETING AND SO THIS IS MF 18 IS WHAT I ARRIVED TO AFTER COMPROMISE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. NEXT SLIDE. I FEEL LIKE THE CURRENT ZONING IS OBSOLETE AND NO LONGER SUITED FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO AS YOU, WHEN YOU WHEN WE GET TO THE MAP, OUR SIX WILL ALLOW ONE SINGLE FAMILY HOME. AND IF A QUICK QUERY OF THE WHOLE ZIP CODE, 7, 8, 2, 5, OH, THERE ARE NO HOMES THAT ARE ON TWO PLUS ACRES THAT ARE JUST SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. SO TO ME, THAT SHOWS RIGHT THERE THAT THAT'S NOT BUILDING A SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON THAT PROPERTY IS NOT GOOD FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, VAGRANT AND SQUIRES HAVE OCCUPIED THE DILAPIDATED, DILAPIDATED PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET. UH, ACROSS FROM ME THERE IS A HOU, IT'S ABOUT FOUR ACRES AND THERE'S A SHACK ON THERE, AND WE'VE CA HAD TO CALL THE POLICE OUT THERE A FEW TIMES BECAUSE THERE'S LIKE SQUATTERS THAT COME AND IT'S LIKE, DO WHATEVER IN THERE. AND SO JUST TO KEEP THE NEIGHBORHOOD SAFE, I FEEL LIKE DEVELOPING THE PROPERTY WILL BRING IT UP TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE. UH, AND AGAIN, NO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES FACE MAILING. IF YOU GET THE, AGAIN, ON THE NEXT SLIDE, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, THE PROPERTY FACES MAILIN DRIVE AND ALL THE OTHER R SIXES AND ARMED FORCE FACE INWARDS TO TOWARDS THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THERE ARE NO PROPERTIES IF YOU DRIVE UP AND DOWN MAILIN DRIVE THAT ACTUALLY FACE THE MAILIN DRIVE. SO I BELIEVE, AGAIN, UH, CHANGING OF THE ZONING IS NECESSARY TO BRING IT UP TO TODAY'S STANDARD BECAUSE THE CURRENT ZONING IS ILLOGICAL AND OBSOLETE. UH, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, BEHIND ME OR I, I'VE IN INDICATE, OH, THERE'S A POINTER. YES. OKAY. THIS IS THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION. UH, BEHIND ME IS RMM FOUR. UH, RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET IS A, UH, COMMERCIAL, I THINK IT'S A GAS STATION. THIS IS THE SHACK THAT I MENTIONED TO YOU GUYS WHERE WE'VE CALLED THE POLICE. UH, THERE'S A MF 25, WHICH, UH, AND THEN THE MF 33, IF YOU COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. UH, AGAIN, THE PROJECT BENEFITS, I BELIEVE IT ADDRESSES THE HOUSING NEEDS, THE HOUSING STOCK. UH, AGAIN, IT'LL UPDATE THE PREVIOUS OBSOLETE OBSOLETE ZONING AND ALSO DEVELOP QUALITY H HOUSING UNITS. SORRY, GOT A LITTLE TONGUE TIED, UH, FOR THAT AREA. UH, NEXT SLIDE. UH, AGAIN, I WANT TO DIRECT THE BOARD'S ATTENTION TOWARDS THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ZONING, WHICH IS MF 25 AND MF 33. AND WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS LESS THAN BOTH OF THOSE AT MF 18. AND COMPARATIVE ANALYSIS, UH, THIS IS WHAT MY REQUEST IS WITH THE 39 UNITS. IF, IF THE PROPERTY HAD, IF I'VE MADE THE REQUEST FOR WHAT IT IS BEHIND ME, WHICH IS RMM FOUR, THAT WOULD BE A TOTAL OF 24 LOTS, WHICH IF YOU MADE 'EM DUPLEXES WOULD BE 48 TOTAL HOUSING UNITS, WHICH IF IT'S RMM FOUR, YOU CAN MAKE IT WHAT TRIPLEX OR FOURPLEX. SO THAT'S JUST WITH THE DUPLEX NUMBERS. SO AGAIN, IT'S COMING IN LESS [04:20:01] THAN WHAT IT WOULD BE IF IT WAS THE RMM FOUR. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. UH, MY DUE DILIGENCE, I'VE HOSTED SEVERAL COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND I'VE REACHED OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD HOAS. I'VE DONE BLOCK WALKING WHERE WE'VE, UH, HANDED OUT FLYERS TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT WE ARE PLANNING. AND, UH, THOSE, THESE ARE THE MEETING DATES. WE HAD A MEETING ON EIGHT 15, UH, IN PERSON, ANOTHER ONE AT NINE 18, UH, ANOTHER 1 11 6. AND THEN WE JUST HAD ONE WITH CONJUNCTION WITH THE DISTRICT SEVEN OFFICE, UH, THE COUNCIL PERSON OFFICE, UM, UH, THIS PAST JANUARY ONE 17. AND SO AT THIS POINT, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, I'VE TALKED TO THE COMMUNITY, WE'VE COMPROMISED AND WE'RE READY TO PUT FORTH OUR PLAN TO MOVE FORWARD AND PROGRESS. UH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. YES. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. UH, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT, OBVIOUSLY? NO. YES. DO WE HAVE SPEAKERS TOO? WELL, WE DO HAVE A SPEAKER, YES. UH, OKAY. MS. LINWOOD? YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PATIENCE IN WAITING. BUT YOU ARE WELCOME TO COME IN . MY NAME IS JOLENA LINWOOD. I LIVE ON 79 17 SANTA CATALINA DRIVE. UH, MY ZIP CODE IS SEVEN EIGHT. I GOT IT. OKAY. YOU CAN LOWER DOWN THE MIC JUST A LITTLE BIT. THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU. MY ZIP CODE IS SEVEN EIGHT FIVE ZERO SEVEN EIGHT TWO FIVE ZERO. OKAY. MY TELEPHONE NUMBER IS TWO FOUR SIX SEVEN EIGHT SEVEN ZERO. THE REASON I'M HERE IS, HEY, I'VE BEEN IN MY HOUSE 20 YEARS. I CAN'T MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE. I, I HAVE LIVED THERE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD BEEN BEEN QUIET, NO CHILDREN, NO DESTROY, NO TEETH AND NO NOTHING, NOTHING. I'M SCARED OF APARTMENTS. OKAY. THEY SAY THEY WANNA PUT THREE STORY APARTMENT. WELL, IF THEY PUT THREE STORY APARTMENT, MY BEDROOM IS IN THE BACK. I'M GONNA SEE PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE, OH, MY BEDROOM IN MY BACKYARD. SO THIS IS MY COMPLAINT. THIS IS WHY I OBJECT ABOUT IT. AND ANOTHER THING IS THEY, THE LAND IS HIGHER THAN MINES AND WHEN IT RAIN, THE WATER FILLS IN. I WONDER WHEN THEY DO CONSTRUCTION OF THERE, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO MY YARD IF IT'S GONNA FLOOD IT OUT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I TRIED TO COLLECT AS MANY AS I COULD, BUT WHAT HAPPENED? I DON'T KNOW. I JUST KNOW THAT I NEEDED TO BE HERE BECAUSE I'LL ANSWER TO THOSE NOTES OBJECTING TO IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. AND I, I, WE HAVE SOME VOICEMAILS, I BELIEVE. YES, WE HAVE VOICEMAILS TO BE PLAYED. MR. CHAIR, MY NAME IS BARBARA ANDERSON. I LIVE AT 9 9 2 2 ALMS PARK DRIVE SAN ANTONIO 7 8 2 5 0 IN THE, UM, UM, PARKLAND SUBDIVISION. I'M CALLING ABOUT THE POSSIBLE ZONING CHANGE FROM RESIDENTIAL TO MULTIFAMILY. UM, WE BOUGHT OUR HOME ALMOST 20 YEARS AGO. IT IS OUR RETIREMENT HOME AND WE BOUGHT IT BECAUSE IT WAS RESIDENTIAL AND SINGLE FAMILY AND NOW THEY WANT TO CHANGE IT TO MULTIFAMILY. WE LIVE AT MAINLAND, UM, AND PARKLANDS SUBDIVISION, ONE HIGHLAND PARK IN MAINLAND AND IT IS A VERY BUSY STREET MAINLAND AND WE HAVE ONLY ONE ENTRANCE IN AND OUT. AND IT, THE ENTRANCE IS AT A DANGEROUS CURVE WITH A DIP BEFORE IT ON ONE SIDE AND A HILL ON THE OTHER SIDE. LADIES, WHICH CAN STOP, UH, VIDEO OR AUDIO JUST FOR ONE SECOND. WE WE'RE GONNA TAKE A QUICK FIVE MINUTE RECESS. WE LOST QUORUM, SO WE HAVE TO PAUSE UNTIL WE GET OUR COMMISSIONER BACK. YEAH. SO JUST REAL QUICK, SO ANYBODY ELSE NEED TO, WELL DUDE, MAN THAT RECORD, IT IS 5 55 AND THE ZONING COMMISSION IS BACK IN SESSION. WHERE WERE WE? VOICEMAILS THANK YOU. YEAH, WE CAN START. MY NAME IS BARBARA ANDERSON. I LIVE AT 9 9 2 2 ALMS PARK DRIVE SAN ANTONIO 7 8 2 5 0 IN THE, UM, UM, PARKLANDS SUBDIVISION. I'M CALLING ABOUT THE POSSIBLE ZONING CHANGE FROM RESIDENTIAL TO MULTI-FAMILY. UM, WE BOUGHT OUR HOME ALMOST 20 YEARS AGO. IT IS OUR RETIREMENT HOME AND WE BOUGHT IT BECAUSE IT WAS RESIDENTIAL AND SINGLE FAMILY AND NOW THEY WANT TO CHANGE IT TO MULTI-FAMILY. WE LIVE AT MAINLAND, UM, AND PARKLANDS SUBDIVISION, ONE HIGHLAND PARK IN MAINLAND AND IT IS A VERY BUSY STREET MAINLAND AND WE HAVE ONLY ONE ENTRANCE IN AND OUT. AND IT, THE ENTRANCE IS AT A DANGEROUS CURVE WITH A DIP BEFORE IT ON ONE SIDE AND A HILL ON THE OTHER SIDE, WHICH MAKES IT A BLIND CURVE. ADDING MULTIFAMILY WITH ANOTHER 50 CARS OR MORE IS AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS THING. WE HAVE ONLY ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT. WE HAVE NO CHOICE. WE [04:25:01] HAVE TO GO OUT ON MAINLAND. PLEASE, PLEASE DO NOT CHANGE THIS ZONING. PLEASE LEAVE IT AS SINGLE FAMILY DO NOT MAKE IT MULTI-FAMILY WITH ALL THESE CARS. UH, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S BEEN ANY IMPACT STUDIES, ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STUDIES AND WE ARE EXTREMELY CONCERNED. PLEASE, WE BOUGHT HERE AND EXPECT THIS TO REMAIN SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND PLEASE DO NOT REZONE, WHICH WILL IMPACT OUR PROPERTY VALUES AS WELL. ALL I CAN DO IS ASK YOU TO PLEASE TRAVEL MAINLAND AND SEE WHAT WILL AFFECT, PLEASE NO REZONING. THANK YOU. CELESTE PARRA, T 1 0 6 3 2 6 2 0 5. MY ADDRESS IS 9 9 1 0 ALMS PARK SITE NUMBER ND N C B 1 8 3 1 1 B L K LOT P DASH NINE TWO D. I WAS NOTIFIED BY MY H O A THAT THREE DIFFERENT PROPERTIES WERE BEING REZONED. TWO FOR HIGH DENSITY MULTIFAMILY HOUSING. THE AREAS THAT I AM SPEAKING ABOUT ARE BURNS CROSSING 75 25 MAINLAND ROAD AND THE PROPERTY ON MAINLAND AND HIGHLAND PARK. THESE ARE ALL ZONED FOR R SIX CURRENTLY AND REZONING THEM WILL CAUSE A NUMBER OF ISSUES. A MAIN ISSUE IS TRAFFIC ALONG MAINLAND. A FEW YEARS BACK, THE CITY DID A STUDY ON WHERE TO PUT STOP SIGNS ALONG MAINLAND DUE TO THE AMOUNT OF ACCIDENTS THAT OCCURRED ON THE ROAD AND THE AMOUNT OF TICKETS BEING ISSUED. AFTER EXAMINING THE TRAFFIC AND SPEED CONCERNS, THE CITY WAS ABLE TO FINALLY PUT UP STOP SIGNS, WHICH HAS DRASTICALLY IMPROVED THE NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS AND TICKETS THAT OCCUR ON THIS ROAD. ADDING MORE HOUSING, APARTMENTS AND DUPLEXES WILL ONLY ADD TO THE ISSUE THAT THE CITY ALREADY FOUND A SOLUTION TO STRUCTURES BEING BUILT IN THIS AREA ALONG BLANK CURVES, WHICH CAUSED SO MANY ACCIDENTS, MANY IS NOT ADDING TO THE SAFENESS OF THE AREA. THE CITY FINALLY FINISHED A TRAILHEAD WHERE FAMILIES CAN ACCESS THE CITY PARK, BUT NOW FAMILIES AND CHILDREN WILL HAVE TO WATCH OUT FOR THE ADDED CARS ON THE ROAD. THIS IS A VERY DANGEROUS CURVE FOR PEOPLE. SECONDLY, ON THE PARTITION OF THE LAND ON HIGHLAND AND MAINLAND, WHICH IS A NEAR TWO ACRES, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE MIGHT BE APARTMENTS GOING UP IN THAT AREA. IN FACT, ALL THESE PROPERTIES ARE ABOUT TWO ACRE, LOTS, LOTS. IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT INFILLS DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN ADDRESSED IN NOVEMBER A COUPLE YEARS AGO. THESE STRUCTURES WOULD NOT BE OUT OF CHARACTER FROM ALL OF THE PROPERTIES WOULD BE OUT OF CHARACTER FROM ALL OF THE OTHER PROPERTIES. HAS THE DEVELOPER EVEN SUBMITTED DESIGNS THAT SHE EILEEN WEBER ADDRESS, 9 9 0 2 KAMINSKI PARK, SAN ANTONIO, 7 8 2 5 0. HOME NUMBER TWO TEN FIVE TWO ZERO TWO ONE ZERO SEVEN. I'M CALLING ABOUT, UM, THE ITEM ON THE AGENDA FOR THE INTERSECTION OF HIGHLAND PARK AND MAINLAND ROAD. I LIVE IN THE PARKLANDS SUBDIVISION THERE. UM, THE IDEA OF, UM, HAVING MULTIFAMILY ZONING GOING ON IS VERY DISTURBING. THERE IS, UH, A LARGE AMOUNT OF, UH, OF TRAFFIC ALREADY IN THIS AREA. WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY ZONED, I GUESS IT WAS ZONED FOR SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS. AND SINCE THEN THEY HAVE ADDED MORE SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS AND IT HAS REALLY, UM, SUFFOCATED, UH, US THAT HAVE BEEN HERE. THE TRAFFIC IS BACKED UP. THEY DID DO SOMETHING THAT DID LOOSEN THINGS UP, BUT IT TOOK AT LEAST A DECADE FOR THAT TO HAPPEN. THE SCHOOLS ARE ALSO PACKED. THE ROAD IS VERY WINDY AND VERY DANGEROUS. I GET NERVOUS EVEN MAKING A LEFT-HAND TURN OUT OF OUR SUBDIVISION. I FEEL THAT. UH, GOOD MORNING. THIS IS JANICE KEMP. I LIVE AT 76 0 9 HIGHLAND PARK IN SAN ANTONIO, 7 8 2 5 OH IN THE PARKLAND [04:30:01] SUBDIVISION. I'M CALLING REGARDING THE ZONING CHANGE BEING PROPOSED AT THE INTERSECTION OF MAINLAND AND HIGHLAND PARK. I'M SORRY I DON'T HAVE THE AGENDA. ITEM NUMBER BEFORE THIS LOCATION IS REZONED, I STRONGLY RECOMMEND A TRAFFIC STUDY. THIS INTERSECTION IS THE ONLY ENTRANCE AND EXIT FOR THE PARKLAND SUBDIVISION. IT IS DIFFICULT NOW TO SAFELY TURN LEFT ONTO MAINLAND AT BUSY TIMES OF THE DAY AND IN THE MORNING AND EVENING, ESPECIALLY DUE TO THE BLIND CURVE ON MAINLAND. ALTHOUGH THE SPEED LIMIT ON MAINLAND IS 30 MILES PER HOUR, MANY DRIVERS SPEED, I BELIEVE A FOUR-WAY STOP AT THE INTERSECTION OF MAINLAND AND HIGHLAND PARK WOULD MAKE THE INTERSECTION MUCH SAFER. THIS WOULD BE ESSENTIAL IF THE LOCATION IS REZONED FOR MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MY NAME IS LESLIE HOY. MY ADDRESS IS 8 0 2 6 WINTER PARK, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS SEVEN EIGHT TWO FIVE ZERO. MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 379-4403. THE AGENDA ITEM I'M LOOKING AT IS N C B 18 3 1 1 BLOCK LOT P 92 D AS IN DOG AND MAINLAND DRIVE ANNEXATION. I AM, UH, REQUEST RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING THAT THIS NOT GO THROUGH. THIS IS A SINGLE, UM, FAMILY HOME ENVIRONMENT AND WE CANNOT AFFORD TO HAVE ALL THE TRAFFIC THAT THESE TYPE OF, UM, APARTMENTS AND MULTI, UH, HOME THINGS WOULD, WOULD PUT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I'M HIGHLY AGAINST IT, UM, AND I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU'LL VOTE AGAINST IT. THANK YOU. HI, MY NAME IS MARTIN ALVAREZ. MY ADDRESS IS 9 9 1 0 ALMS PARK, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 5 0. I'M CALLING ABOUT THE, UM, DISTRICT SEVEN ZONING THAT IS GOING ON AT SITE N CCB 1 8 3 1 1 BLOCK LOT NINE, I'M SORRY, BLOCK LOT P DASH NINE TWO D ON MAINLAND DRIVE. UM, WITH THE ANNEXATION, UM, I WAS NOTIFIED BY MY H O A THAT THERE'S ACTUALLY THREE PROPERTIES THAT ARE BEING REZONED FOR HIGH DENSITY OR MULTIFAMILY HOUSING. UM, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ONE THAT IS ON, UH, MAINLAND AND HIGHLAND PARK. UH, THE ONE ON BURNS CROSSING AND THE ONE ON 7 5 2 7 MAINLAND ROAD. UM, I NOTICE THESE ARE ALL ZONED FOR R SIX CURRENTLY AND REZONING ONE IS GONNA CAUSE A NUMBER OF ISSUES. UM, BUT FIRST OF ALL, A MAIN ISSUE IS JUST TRAFFIC LONG MAINLAND. UH, THREE YEARS AGO THEY DID A WHOLE STUDY ON MAINLAND AND FOUND THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF, UM, ACCIDENTS AND THERE WAS A LOT OF SPEEDING ON MAINLAND. SO THE CITY TOOK A LOT OF TIME TO INVESTIGATE THIS AND ADD ADDITIONAL STOP SIGNS DUE TO A LOT OF TRAFFIC. UM, THIS TRAFFIC ALSO GOES INTO BANDERA. THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO HAS DONE EXTENSIVE RESEARCH ON HOW TO IMPROVE BANDERA ROAD BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH HIGH TRAFFIC, UM, ON BANDERA. AND AGAIN, NOW WE'RE ADDING MORE HOUSING TO MAINLAND, WHICH IS ONLY GONNA INTENSIFY THE TRAFFIC ON BANDERA ROAD. UM, ALSO THE, THE, UM, THE PARK THAT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ALSO JUST OPENED UP, WHICH IS CALLED FRENCH CREEK PARK, UM, THAT'S ACCESSIBLE TO FAMILIES. THERE'S A LOT OF FAMILIES THAT ACTUALLY GO THERE NOW AND ACCESS THE PARK THROUGH THERE. UH, YOU'RE ABOUT TO BUILD THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING COMMUNITIES IN THAT SAME AREA, AND ALL YOU'RE GONNA DO IS INTENSIFY THE TRAFFIC AROUND THAT AREA AND MAKE IT UNSAFE FOR FAMILIES TO BE WALKING TO THE PARK HERE. UM, JUST STRUCTURES BEING BUILT IN THIS AREA. LONG BLIND CURVES ON MAINLAND. SO I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL KNOW, BUT MAINLAND HAS A LOT OF BLIND CURVES. UM, THEY CAUSED SO MANY ACCIDENTS, SO JUST ADDING TO THE, UM, WE'RE NOT ADDING TO THE SAFENESS OF MAINLAND ROAD. HELLO, GOOD MORNING. UH, MY NAME IS SWAMI NETAN. ADDRESS 8 0 2 6 WINTER PARK, SAN ANTONIO, 7 8 2 5 0. I LIVE IN VISTA SEVEN OFF OF MAINLAND IN THE DEVELOPMENT CALLED THE PARKLANDS. AND WE HERE, THIS IS REGARDING A ZONING CHANGE REQUEST THE COMMISSION HAS RECEIVED REGARDING SITE NUMBER N C B 180 3 11 BLOCK LOT P AS IN PAPA, 92 D ASS IN DAVID. IT'S ON MAINLAND DRIVE, UH, AT UH, THE CROSS SECTION OF HIGHLAND PARK AND MAINLAND ROAD. SO YEAH, THERE IS A, A PROPOSAL TO BUILD A HIGH DENSITY APARTMENT COMPLEX IN THE MIDDLE OF A COMPLETELY 100%, UH, INDIVIDUAL HOME NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH WE THINK IS TOTALLY IMPROPER. AND THE AREA WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSING AS A DOUBLE SCUR WHERE THERE HAVE BEEN MANY ACCIDENTS AND THERE IS NO STUDY [04:35:01] DONE FOR THE IMPACT OF THE TRAFFIC AND OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES. SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT THE ZONING COMMISSION REFUSE AND VOTE AGAINST THIS REQUEST FOR A ZONING CHANGE FOR THIS LOT. AND, UH, IT PRO IT IS, UH, YEAR MARKED TO, FOR INDIVIDUAL HOMES. I THINK ANY OTHER CONSTRUCTION OR HIGH DENSITY TYPE OF, UH, UH, LIVING COMPLEX SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED ALONG MAINLAND ROAD. THERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT PROPERTIES WHICH THE BUILDER IS TRYING TO BUY AT THIS POINT. SO IT'S, IT'S VERY CRITICAL, UH, THAT YOU LOOK AT THIS, UH, VERY CAREFULLY. AND, UH, WE THE NEIGHBORS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UM, APPLICANT, IF YOU'D LIKE A CHANCE FOR A SHORT REBUTTAL. HELLO. OKAY. UH, JUST TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE COMMUNITY CONCERNS, UH, FOR INSTANCE, THE THREE STORY BUILDING, UH, SINCE WE REDUCED THE NUMBER OF UNITS, THERE'S NO NEED TO GO THREE STORY. SO WE'RE JUST AT THE TWO STORY MARK. UH, SO THAT WON'T BE AN ISSUE MOVING FORWARD. UH, TRAFFIC IS ANOTHER THEME THAT I HEARD, UH, THROUGHOUT THE, THE PHONE CALLS, UH, I THINK, UH, AT SAN ANTONIO GROWS, THERE'S GONNA BE MORE TRAFFIC EVERYWHERE. UH, AND FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT THAT WITH IT ONLY BEING 39 UNITS, IT'S SO LOW IN DENSITY THAT IT WON'T EVEN REQUIRE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, UH, PER CITY GUIDELINES. UM, THE OTHER THING I HEARD ON THE VOICEMAILS WAS THERE WAS ONLY SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS ON MALIN. THAT'S NOT TRUE. I MEAN, I IF WE COULD JUST GO TO THE MAP, THE MAP ON MY PRESENTATION I POINTED OUT WHERE THERE'S MF 33, THERE'S MF 25, SO, AND THEN THERE'S A SEAT, THERE'S A, THERE'S ALSO THE, UM, NORTH SIDE INDUSTRIAL LIKE, UH, WHAT RIGHT ON THERE AS WELL TOO. SO IT'S NOT JUST, UH, HOMES ON THERE AND THOSE, ALL THOSE PROPERTIES FACE MAINLAND DRIVE LIKE I'M LIKE, MY PROPERTY DOES AS WELL TOO. AND THEN, UH, THE OTHER THING WAS PROPERTY VALUES. UH, THAT'S WHAT THEY SAID ABOUT THEIR PROPERTY VALUES GOING DOWN. THAT'S JUST NOT TRUE. THAT HASN'T BEARED OUT IN THE SCIENCE. THESE, THIS PROPERTY THAT WAS DEVELOPED MF 25, UH, THESE, THESE HOUSES BEHIND THOSE HOUSES HAD NOT DROPPED IN VALUE BECAUSE THIS MF 25 PROPERTY WAS DEVELOPED. OH, IT WAS DEVELOPED IN 2 20 10, I BELIEVE. AND SO THOSE PROPERTIES WERE NOT REDUCED IN VALUE. AND SO NO NEGATIVE IMPACT WOULD HAPPEN TO THE NEIGHBORS BEHIND ME AS WELL TOO. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UM, THIS IS A DISTRICT SEVEN CASE, SO IT'S TO ME FOR QUESTIONS. UM, AND THIS IS A QUESTION FOR STAFF. IS THERE ANY WAY TO, UH, SO M F 18 ALLOWS 35 FEET BUILDING HEIGHT. IS THERE A WAY TO JUST ON A STANDARD MF REZONING TO LIMIT THE HEIGHT TO TWO STORIES? UH, NO. YOU, WE CANNOT, UH, LIMIT THAT SIR. OKAY. OKAY. UM, ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT, ALRIGHT, ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. I, I WILL SAY THOUGH, THERE IS A STIPULATION BECAUSE HE IS WITHIN, OR HE'S NEXT TO A SINGLE FAMILY UNITS TO THE, UH, WEST OF THE PROPERTY. MM-HMM. , UM, ANYTHING WITHIN 50 FEET OF THOSE PROPERTIES, WE'LL HAVE TO STAY WITHIN A TWO AND A HALF STORY 35 FEET HEIGHT. OKAY. WHAT ABOUT, IS, IS RMM FOUR CONSIDERED SINGLE FAMILY OR IS THAT CONSIDERED MULTIFAMILY TO THE SOUTH? AS FAR AS THE PURPOSES OF THE 50 FEET, IF THERE IS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME ESTABLISHED THERE, THEY HAVE TO MEET THAT 50 FEET. GOT IT. BUT THE DUPLEX ISN'T CONSIDERED SINGLE FAMILY, IS IT? NO, SIR. OKAY, GOTCHA. DANG, . UM, ALRIGHT, LET ME OPEN IT UP TO OTHER COMMISSIONERS IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT. ONE QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. DO YOU HAVE A SITE PLAN OR SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE MAYBE THAT WE CAN SEE WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE ON YOUR MF E TEAM? I DO. UH, AND THIS SITE PLAN WAS GENERATED, UH, AT THE MF 25 LEVEL AND NOT THE, THE REDONE MF 18 LEVEL. THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T PUT IT IN THE SLIDES BECAUSE WHEN I DID THE, I ADMITTED THE APPLICATION TO GO DOWN TO THE 18. YEAH, YEAH, IT SHOULD BE. YEAH, THAT SHOULD BE. [04:40:01] SO THIS IS KIND OF THE SITE PLAN THAT, UH, THE ENGINEERS CAME UP WITH INITIALLY. AND AGAIN, THIS IS NOT ACCURATE BECAUSE THIS IS AT THE MF 25 DESIGNATION AND NOT THE MF 18 THAT I'M REQUESTING. SO THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO REDO IT, UH, AGAIN AS WELL. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, GREAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS LEFT. COMMISSIONERS WRIGHT. ALRIGHT, WELL BACK TO ME FOR, UH, A MOTION. UM, SO I, IN ADDITION TO THE VOICEMAILS, I'VE RECEIVED A TON OF EMAILS FROM, FROM NEIGHBORS ON THIS CASE. UM, SOME OF THEM HAD OUTDATED INFORMATION, SO IT WAS, IT WAS, UH, BASED ON THE MF 33. IN FACT, ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS, ONE OF THE EMAILS WAS SAYING IF, IF THIS WAS MF 25 OR LESS, THEY WOULD BE IN SUPPORT. UM, AND, AND I APPRECIATE THE NEIGHBOR WHO DID COME OUT TO STAY ALL THIS TIME. UH, YOU'D PROBABLY HAVE SOME OF OUR SNACKS. WE GOT SNACKS. UM, I, I KNOW YOU HAD MENTIONED HEIGHT. I'M, I WOULD REALLY ENCOURAGE THE APPLICANT TO STICK WITH THE TWO STORY AT ALL COSTS. UM, IN GOOD FAITH, I THE DRAINAGE WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF BY, BY THE, UH, DURING, DURING PERMITTING. UM, UH, YOU'VE PROBABLY HEARD DURING PREVIOUS PRESENTATIONS TODAY HOW, UH, HE'S NOT ALLOWED TO RELEASE MORE WATER FROM HIS DEVELOPMENT ONTO NEIGHBORING LANDS. SO THAT WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF. UM, BUT THE SUBDIVISION THAT'S JUST SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY IS RMM FOUR. AND SO THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT I LOOKED AT BECAUSE RMM FOUR WOULD MAKE PERFECT SENSE HERE. AND AT RMM FOUR, YES, YOU COULD DO MORE UNITS THAN WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED. AND SO FOR THAT REASON, I THINK THAT RATHER THAN HAVING A STEP UP IN DENSITY FROM TO MAINLAND, WE'RE ACTUALLY GETTING A STEP DOWN. YES, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S CURRENTLY ONE LARGE PROPERTY AS R SIX, BUT THAT, THAT'S KIND OF JUST A LEFTOVER REMNANT OF SOMETHING. UM, AND SO I BELIEVE MF 18 IS A REALLY, REALLY GOOD COMPROMISE TO, UM, FOR THE AREA. UM, AND SO WITH THAT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AND ASK IF THERE IS A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND. CAN I ASK A QUESTION? PLEASE? UH, MY PROPERTY WHILE ALSO NO, NO, NO, IT WON'T. IT WON'T. UM, SO I CAN TELL MY NEIGHBOR THAT WHO'S ON THAT NEXT TO THEIR FENCE WILL NOT BE GOING ON. THE CHANCES ARE, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T, CAN'T PREDICT EVERYTHING, BUT, UM, APARTMENTS ARE ALWAYS BUILT NEXT TO SUBDIVISIONS. I HAVE AN APARTMENT NEXT TO OUR SUBDIVISION THAT'S THREE STORIES TALL. AND, UM, TRUST ME, THE PROPERTY VALUES HAVE NOT DROPPED IN OUR AREA. UM, BUT, UM, YEAH, IT, IT AT, AT, AT THE SMALL SCALE THAT HE IS PROPOSING. YOU KNOW, I'M, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S, THAT'S A BENEFIT IS THAT IT'S NOT A HUGE APARTMENT COMPLEX. IT'S VERY SMALL IN SCALE. UM, SO, UH, THE MOTION WAS MADE BY ME FOR APPROVAL, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES. UH, ANY DISCUSSION LEFT BRIEFLY? COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE? UH, ONE THING I WOULD SUGGEST IS, YOU KNOW, THE MORE SPACE YOU CAN GET AWAY FROM THE HOUSES, THE BETTER. AND SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU END UP LOOKING AT THIS AND YOU CAN'T MAKE THE TWO STORIES WORK, PUT IT CLOSER TO MAINLAND, FARTHER AWAY FROM THE ABUTTING PROPERTIES. SO IF YOU HAVE TO GO TO THREE, GO TO THAT ONE. THAT'S AN EXCELLENT SUGGESTION. AND SO I, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU BEFORE YOU GO TO COUNCIL, HAVE A BETTER, UH, HAVE, HAVE A REVISED SITE PLAN FOR THAT. UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? NONE LOOKING RIGHT? NONE. ALL RIGHT. MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. CHAIR SIPES? YES. COMMISSIONER FUENTES. AYE. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER GREENHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. AYE. ITEM PASSES. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. AND [04:45:01] THANK YOU FOR STAYING SO LONG. UH, WE [Approval of Minutes  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his transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.