* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:01:26] ANTONIO IN SAN ANTONIO, PUNTA. GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. WELCOME TO OUR CITY COUNCIL B SESSION TODAY. THE TIME IS 1:03 PM ON THE FIFTH DAY OF APRIL, 2023. WE'LL CALL OUR MEETING TO ORDER. WE HAVE A PACKED AGENDA, SO THANK YOU FOR COMING EARLY. MADAM CLERK, COULD YOU READ THE ROLE? COUNCIL MEMBER BRAVO HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER MICKEY RODRIGUEZ IS HERE, VIRTUALLY. COUNCIL MEMBER VILLAGRA HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER ROJA GARCIA. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTILLO. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER KEO BERDA. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTRO HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER ELA. COUNCIL MEMBER. COURAGE PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY. HERE. MAYOR NIERENBERG. HERE. MAYOR, WE HAVE A QUORUM. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. AND WELCOME EVERYONE AGAIN. WE HAVE A BIG AGENDA TODAY. SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE EARLY START. [ ITEMS  ] UH, ERIC, IF YOU COULD WALK US THROUGH WHAT THE DAY LOOKS LIKE, AND I THINK WHAT WE'LL PROBABLY END UP DOING IS HAVE TWO ROUNDS, A COUPLE ITEMS EACH, AND THEN WE WILL, UH, COUPLE BREAKS FOR, FOR DISCUSSION. YES, SIR. UH, THANK YOU. UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. SO TODAY IS KIND OF AN EARLY START ON SOME OF THE LARGER CONVERSATIONS THE COUNCIL WILL HAVE. UH, NEXT THURSDAY ON APRIL 13TH WHEN WE, UH, WHEN WE HAVE OUR, UH, POLICY DISCUSSION, COUNCIL POLICY DISCUSSION FOR THE 2024 BOND, UM, NOT THE 2024 BOND PROGRAM, THE 2024 BUDGET PROCESS, UM, THE, WE, WE BRINGING FORWARD TO YOU A COUPLE OF POLICY ISSUES REALLY FOR YOUR, UH, DISCUSSION AND DIGESTION IN ADVANCE OF NEXT WEEK. UM, LET ME TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT NEXT WEEK. WE ARE WORKING ON KIND OF THE SCHEDULE FOR NEXT WEEK'S WORK SESSION. WE WILL BE SENDING TO THE COUNCIL, UH, A PACKET BY THIS FRIDAY WITH A NUMBER OF ONE PAGE, UH, SUMMARIES ON A NUMBER OF OUR POLICY ISSUES, UM, AND PRIORITIES THAT THE COUNCIL HAS. AND WE'LL BE WORKING TO, UH, FINALIZE THE, THE CALENDAR, UH, OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS. WE WILL SHARE THAT WITH YOU IN THAT, IN THAT FRIDAY PACKET AS WELL. I'LL, I'LL TELL YOU THAT, THAT PART OF WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE ARE, UM, INTERNALLY DISCUSSING AND GIVE SOME THOUGHT TO IT, UM, AND ANY FEEDBACK YOU HAVE, UM, THROUGHOUT THIS AFTERNOON. BUT MUCH LIKE, UH, THE COUNCIL SET THE FRAMEWORK FOR ARPA, UM, AND WE USE THAT FRAMEWORK, UH, FOR THE SPENDING DECISIONS AND COUNCIL CONSIDERATIONS FOR THE USE OF ARPA DOLLARS, MAYBE BORROWING SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WORKED WELL IN THAT CASE, UM, AND SEEING WHERE WE CAN APPLY THEM IN OUR ANNUAL BUDGET PROCESS. AND IT, IT'S NOT EXACTLY THE SAME, BUT IT DOES GIVE, UH, THE COUNCIL ABILITY TO KIND OF SET THOSE, THAT FRAMEWORK FOR US, UM, AS WE GO INTO THE BUDGET. SO MORE TO, MORE TO COME, UH, LATER IN THE WEEK. UH, TODAY'S PRESENTATIONS, AS YOU MENTIONED, MAYOR, UH, WE'VE GOT FOUR ITEMS, UH, TODAY. THE FIRST IS A PRESENTATION ON THE GOOD NEIGHBOR PROGRAM, WHICH WE, UM, UM, SHARED WITH YOU HERE A COUPLE WEEKS AGO. WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT POLICE, UM, UH, MANY OF YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE, UM, CHALLENGES WE'VE HAD WITH THE CONSULTANT THAT WAS, UH, HIRED BY THE CITY TO DO THE POLICE STAFFING ANALYSIS. UM, AND WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHERE THAT IS AT. UM, AND, AND, AND HE WAS ABLE TO COMPLETE PART OF HIS ANALYSIS AND WE'LL SHARE THAT WITH YOU TODAY. WE WANNA GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE HOMELESS STRATEGIC PLAN, AND THEN WE'LL BREAK FOR QUESTIONS, UM, AND CONVERSATION. AND [00:05:01] THEN WE'LL WRAP UP WITH, UH, BEN COMING UP, UH, TO TALK ABOUT OUR FINANCIAL POLICIES, NAMELY, UH, ONE OF THEM, UH, THE, THE AREAS WE TALKED ABOUT A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, UH, REGARDING C P S REVENUE. AND THEN, UM, A GENERAL DISCUSSION, UM, ABOUT, UH, RESERVES AND SOMETHING WE WANTED TO INTRODUCE TO THE COUNCIL SINCE IT'S BEEN ALMOST 10 YEARS SINCE WE'VE ENGAGED IN THIS CONVERSATION REGARDING RESERVES. UM, I WILL, UH, ALSO SHARE WITH YOU THAT, UM, WE'RE ALL GETTING TAX NOTICES THIS WEEK. UH, WE, WE, WE DO NOT HAVE, WE HAVE MARKET DATA, UH, FROM THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT. WE'RE HOPING TO GET, UH, MORE OF THE APPRAISAL DATA, WHICH IS WHAT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO LAY OUT IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL. UM, SO BEN WILL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT NEXT WEEK'S BUDGET PRESENT OR, UH, GOAL SETTING CONVERSATION. UH, WE HOPE TO HAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION TO BETTER INFORM THE CONVERSATION THE COUNCIL MIGHT HAVE AS PART OF NEXT THURSDAY. AND SO WITH THAT, THAT'S KIND OF THE INTRO. UM, AND, UH, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MARIA. MARIA'S GONNA KICK US OFF ON THE GOOD NEIGHBOR PROGRAM. THANK YOU ERIC, AND GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'M MARIA VIE GOMEZ, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER. UM, BEFORE I BEGIN MY PRESENTATION, WANTED TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF THE CONTEXT AS TO WHY WE ARE RECOMMENDING THIS GOOD NEIGHBOR PROGRAM. THE CITY MANAGER SENT A MEMO TO THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL A FEW WEEKS AGO AFTER THE TERRIBLE INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED IN THE 2,800 BLOCK OF DELA. AND ONE OF THE, UH, AREAS THAT HE HIGHLIGHTED IN THAT MEMO WAS THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE BEGAN TO HAVE AROUND DOING AN ANALYSIS AND COORDINATION OF CALLS ACROSS ALL OF OUR DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS TO ADDRESS, UM, HOMES LIKE THE ONE IN 2,800 DELA. SO AS WE BEGAN OUR PROCESS, THE, THE GOAL OF THIS GOOD NEIGHBOR PROGRAM IS TO ADDRESS THE CHRONIC NUIS NUISANCE SINGLE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES IN ORDER TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF OUR RESIDENTS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. SO LET ME PUT SOME, UH, INFORMATION IN CONTEXT. UH, THIS PARTICULAR TABLE REPRESENTS THE NUMBER OF CALLS THAT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO GETS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. SPECIFICALLY. THIS IS THE CALLS THAT WE RECEIVE IN 2022. YOU CAN SEE FROM THE TABLE THIS INCLUDES, UH, CALLS MADE TO 9 1 9 1 1 FOR POLICE SERVICES, 1.3 MILLION CALLS THAT ARE MADE TO OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR FIRE AND E M SS SERVICES, 211,000. AND THEN WE HAVE A COMBINATION OF NON-EMERGENCY CALLS THAT COME BOTH TO THE POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS, AND THAT IS CLOSE TO 1.1 MILLION. IN ADDITION TO THAT, ALSO WE HAVE CALLS THAT COME TO OUR 3 1 1 SYSTEM. SO IN TOTAL, THAT NUMBER COMBINED IS 3.4 MILLION CALLS THAT WE GET FROM THE COMMUNITY ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. NOW, AS YOU, UH, CAN IMAGINE, WE GET MULTIPLE CALLS FROM THE SAME INCIDENT. FOR EX FOR EXAMPLE, WE MAY GET MULTIPLE CALLS TO BOTH POLICE AND FIRE WHEN THERE IS A, UH, MAJOR TRAFFIC ACCIDENT. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TOTAL OF 3.4, UH, MILLION CALLS, WHAT TURNS OUT TO BE ACTUALLY CALLS FOR SERVICE THAT WE RESPOND TO IS ABOUT 2.3 MILLION CALLS. THERE'S STILL A VERY LARGE, LARGE NUMBER THAT OUR DEPARTMENTS WORK ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. NOW, TO GIVE YOU SOME CONTEXT ON WHAT WE DO TODAY, WHEN IT COMES TO EVALUATING ALL THESE CALLS THAT COME TO THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AND A COUPLE OF PROGRAMS THAT I'M GONNA HIGHLIGHT, ONE IS OUR DAR PROGRAM, WHICH IS A DANGEROUS ASSESSMENTS RESPONSE TEAM. THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM WAS IMPLEMENTED BACK IN 2007 AND IS LED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. AND THE GOAL OF THE PROGRAM IS TO TARGET AND OBEY THE WORST OF THE WORST NUISANCE PROPERTIES HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. UH, THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM FOCUSES ON LOOKING AT CRIMINAL CODE VIOLATIONS FOR AT LEAST THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS. AND THEY LOOK AT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, VACANT PROPERTIES, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU SEE ON, ON THE SLIDE. UH, SOME OF THE EXAMPLE IN INCLUDES, UH, DRUG HOUSES, UH, PROSTITUTION MOTELS, UM, BUSINESSES AND FACILITIES THAT NEED ATTENTION, OR WHERE WE HAVE SEEN, AGAIN, CRIMINAL VIOLATIONS IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS. SO WHAT THIS TASK FORCE DOES, UH, THE DAR TEAM, AGAIN, THAT IS LED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. WE HAVE, UH, TEAM MEMBERS FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT, ANIMAL CARE SERVICES AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND THEY WORK TOGETHER TO COME UP WITH A PLAN TO ADDRESS THESE PROPERTIES. THEY USE EVERYTHING THAT IS AVAILABLE IN THE LAW, UH, BOTH STATE AND LOCAL ORDINANCES TO BE ABLE TO, UM, UTILIZE LEGAL REM REMEDIES TO ADDRESS THE, THE NUISANCE CONDITIONS THAT THEY IDENTIFIED IN THOSE PROPERTIES. [00:10:02] IN ADDITION TO THIS PROGRAM, THERE'S ANOTHER PROGRAM THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT STARTED IN 2014. THEY WERE EVALUATING ALL THE E M S CALLS THAT COME TO THE, TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND THEY IDENTIFIED THAT THERE WAS A GROUP OF, UH, INDIVIDUALS THAT WAS CALLING 9 1 1 ON A VERY FREQUENT BASIS. AND THEY DID NOT NECESSARILY NEED TO BE TRANSPORTED TO A HOSPITAL, BUT IN SOME CASES, THEY JUST HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THEIR MEDICATIONS. THEY NEEDED TO TALK TO SOMEBODY. SO WHAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DID TAKING THIS INFORMATION WAS TO DEVELOP A HIGH VOLUME UTILIZER PROGRAM BACK IN 2014. TODAY, THE PROGRAM CONTINUES AND THEY HAVE A TOTAL OF 136 PATIENTS THAT IS ENROLLED IN THIS PROGRAM. THEY VISIT THEM ABOUT ONCE A MONTH. UH, SO IN TOTAL THEY DO CLOSE TO 1700, UH, VISITS PER YEAR. AND ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF THE PROGRAM IS ASSIST THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT NEED THE ASSISTANCE WITHOUT TYING UP THE RESOURCES THAT WE NEED TO RESPOND TO THOSE NUMEROUS EMERGENCY CALLS THAT I SHARED WITH YOU IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE. SO, AS WE BEGAN THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE GOOD, UM, NEIGHBOR PROGRAM, UH, ONE OF THE, THE, THE THINGS THAT WE ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS WITH THIS NEW INITIATIVE, AGAIN, IS TO ADDRESS THE CHRONIC NUISANCE SINGLE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE ACROSS OUR NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE CITY. UH, THE NUISANCE PROPERTIES EXIST IN PART BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING VIOLATIONS THAT CROSS BOUNDARIES ACROSS OUR CITY DEPARTMENTS INDIVIDUALLY. THOSE VIOLATIONS MAY BE LOW PRIORITY, FOR INSTANCE, FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, FOR ANIMAL CARE SERVICES, FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT AND ISOLATION. BUT WHEN YOU COMBINE ALL THOSE VIOLATIONS AND YOU STUDY THEM AND ANALYZE THEM, THEY SUGGEST A MUCH HIGHER PRIORITY THAN THE PRIORITIES THAT ARE ESTABLISHED IN OUR CURRENT RECORDS. SO, UM, IN ADDITION TO DOING THE ANALYSIS ON THE CALLS, THE INTENT OF THIS GOOD NEIGHBOR PROGRAM IS, IS ALSO TALK TO THE NEIGHBORS WHERE THEY'RE EXPERIENCING THIS. UM, THIS, UM, UM, NUISANCE, UH, UH, PROPERTIES, AND I'LL SHARE WITH YOU, WHEN, WHEN WE HAD THE, THE HORRIBLE CASE, UH, THE 2,800, UH, BLOCK OF DELA COUNCIL MEMBER CASTILLO, SHE HAD A MEETING, UM, AND THAT I ATTENDED. AND AS I WAS GOING TOWARDS THE LOCATION WHERE WE WERE GONNA MEET WITH THE RESIDENTS, UM, I WAS TALKING TO AN INDIVIDUAL, UH, THERE ON THE BLOCK AND HE DID NOT ATTEND THE MEETING. AND HE TOLD ME THAT HE DIDN'T DO IT 'CAUSE HE WAS AFRAID OF RETALIATION FROM THOSE NEIGHBORS. SO THAT IS THE REASON WHY IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO TALK TO THE NEIGHBORS. 'CAUSE THEY MAY NOT BE CALLING 9 1 1 OR, UM, REQUESTING ASSISTANCE BECAUSE OF THE FEAR THEY HAVE OR RETALIATION. SO THAT IS ALSO A COMPONENT OF THIS PROGRAM. NOW, TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THIS TASK FORCE THAT WE HAVE CREATED INTERNALLY, THE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE, UH, INCLUDED ARE THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE POLICE, FIRE CODE ENFORCEMENT, ANIMAL CARE SERVICES, 3 1 1, OUR DIVERSITY, EQUITY, INCLUSION AND ACCESSIBILITY, UH, DEPARTMENT, NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES AND HUMAN SERVICES. NOW, ONE OF THE VERY FIRST THINGS WE DID IS WAS TO ANALYZE THE DATA. AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE DIFFERENT SYSTEMS TO TRACK THE NUMBER OF CALLS THAT WE GET, OUR 9 1 1 SYSTEM AND POLICE, OUR 9 1 1 SYSTEM IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, 3 1 1. BUT WE HADN'T ANALYZED ALL THE CALLS COMBINED. SO ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE DID IS THAT WE LOOKED AT CALLS, UH, OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS ACROSS ALL RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES IN THE CITY, AND WE IDENTIFIED SOME ADDRESSES THAT HAD A HIGH NUMBER OF CALLS. HOWEVER, WHEN WE DID THE ANALYSIS ON A MONTHLY BASIS, WE REALIZED THAT EVEN THOUGH WE WERE GETTING A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF CALLS, LET'S SAY FOR THE PAST 24, FOR 24 MONTHS, THEN AFTER THAT POINT, SOMETHING HAPPENED IN THAT ADDRESS, PERHAPS A CHANGE IN THE OWNERSHIP OF THE HOUSE, AND THOSE CALLS BECAME TO ZERO. SO FOR THE, THE, YOU HAD 24 MONTHS OF A LOT OF ACTIVITY AND THEN THE MOST RECENT MONTHS WITH NO ACTIVITY. SO BASED ON THAT, WHAT WE DECIDED TO DO TO BE MORE EFFECTIVE IS TO, TO LOOK AT CALLS THAT WERE HAPPENING IN THOSE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES FOR THE PAST 90 DAYS. THE MOST RECENT DATA, WE PICKED A NUMBER 12 AS 12 OR MORE CALLS. AS WE, UM, ANALYZE THAT IF SOMEBODY WAS CALLING 9 1 1 OR 3 1 1 MORE THAN FOUR TIMES A MONTH FOR THE PAST THREE MONTHS, THAT PROBABLY WE HAD AN ISSUE THERE THAT WE NEEDED TO RESOLVE. SO THAT IS THE THE REASON WHY WE LOOKED AT THOSE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES WITH 12 OR MORE CALLS OVER THE PAST 90 DAYS, WE LOOKED AT 9 1 1 CALLS, NON-EMERGENCY [00:15:01] CALLS AND THREE ONE ONES. SO WHAT THIS ANALYSIS REVEALED IS THAT WE HAD 487 SINGLE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO WITH CLOSE TO 12,000 CALLS THAT WERE MADE TO POLICE ABOUT 9,800 OF THOSE CALLS, UH, 1502 3 1 1, AND THEN 470 CALLS TO, UM, FIRE AND E M S AND, UM, 9 1 1 POLICE AS WELL. THEN WHAT WE DID IS REALIZING THAT 487 ADDRESSES WAS A LARGE NUMBER TO BEGIN OUR, OUR PROGRAM, WE PICKED THE TOP 20, UH, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES WITH THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF CALLS. SO WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN ON THE LEFT IS A MAP THAT SHOWS THE LOCATIONS OF THOSE ADDRESSES. THE LARGER THE BUBBLE IS THE MOST CONCENTRATION OF BOTH ADDRESSES, AS WELL AS NUMBER OF CALLS. SO YOU CAN SEE, UM, HIGHLIGHTED AS NUMBER ONE AND TWO, THOSE ARE THE TWO TOP ADDRESSES WITH THE, THE HIGH NUMBER OF CALLS. ADDRESS NUMBER ONE, FOR INSTANCE, HAS 852 CALLS THAT WILL RECEIVE OVER A PERIOD OF, UH, 90 DAYS. AND PROPERTY NUMBER TWO CALL OUR NINE ONE ONE SYSTEM, UH, OR NON-EMERGENCY 610 TIMES OVER 90 DAYS. SO SOME OF THE ANALYSIS THAT YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, UH, IN TOTAL THERE'S 20 ADDRESSES CALLED THE CITY CLOSE TO 3,200 TIMES 47% OF THE TIMES. THE CALLS WERE FOR REQUESTS FOR ASSISTANCE, PATROL BUYS WELFARE CHECKS. 29% OF THE TIME THERE WERE MENTAL HEALTH RELATED CALLS, 13% OF THE TIME DISTURBANCES AND 11% INCLUDED PROPERTY CRIMES, ANIMAL RELATED CALLS, OVERDOSE, NARCOTICS, AND HOMELESS, UM, ISSUES. SO IN TOTAL, UM, AS I MENTIONED ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, OF THE 487 ADDRESSES THAT WE REVIEWED, WE HAD CLOSE TO 12,000 CALLS. THIS 20, THIS 20 ADDRESSES MAKE UP 27% OF ALL THOSE CALLS. SO US ADDRESSING THIS 20 ADDRESSES WILL MAKE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THOSE NUMBER OF CALLS THAT COME TO, TO OUR SYSTEM. ALSO ON THE TABLE YOU'LL SEE THE, THE, UH, DIFFERENT ACCESS POINTS FOR THOSE CALLS THAT CAME IN. UH, YOU HAVE 3 1 1 FIRE AND POLICE. AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE TABLE, THE MAJORITY OF THOSE CALLS CAME TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. SO JUST TO SHARE WITH YOU A LITTLE BIT OF THE ANALYSIS THAT WE DID, UH, PROPERTY NUMBER ONE I MENTIONED IT CALLED THE CITY 852 TIMES OVER THREE MONTHS, 831 OF THOSE CALLS, UH, THEY WERE REQUESTING PATROL BUYS, UH, WELFARE CHECKS, OR THEY CALLED 9 1 1 AND THEN HUNG UP. 19 PER 19 CALLS WERE RELATED TO MENTAL HEALTH AND THEN TWO CALLS, UH, RELATED TO TRESPASSING. NOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FREQUENCY OF THE CALLS, THERE WERE SOME DAYS THAT WE GOT CALLS OF ONE AND DAYS THAT WE GOT OF UP TO 28 CALLS IN ONE DAY. NOW THIS CALLS ARE EITHER COMING FROM THE INDIVIDUALS WHO LIVE IN THE RESIDENCE OR NEIGHBORS ARE CALLING ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR ADDRESS. SO IT'S A COMBINATION OF THE TWO. PROPERTY NUMBER TWO WITH 610, UH, NON-EMERGENCY CALLS AND THREE MONTHS. THE VAST MAJORITY OF THIS CALLS WERE RELATED TO MENTAL HEALTH 568. THE NEXT UM, HIGHEST CALL WAS PATROL BUYS, WELFARE CHECKS, AND THEN THE LAST, UH, SEVEN CALLS WERE RELATED TO THEFT, UH, BURGLARY AND TRESPASSING. THIS PARTICULAR ADDRESS, THE CALL FREQUENCY, WAS RANGING FROM ONE CALL PER DAY TO UP TO 57 CALLS IN ONE SINGLE DAY. SO THIS IS INFORMATION THAT WE, UH, REVIEW THE TASK FOR REVIEW TO RECOMMEND TO YOU PROGRAM COMPONENTS, UM, FOR THIS PARTICULAR INITIATIVE. AND WE ARE SEEKING YOUR FEEDBACK AS WE ARE, UH, COMPLETING THE, THE, UH, PUTTING TOGETHER THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM. SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ARE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES WITH UP TO FOUR UNITS. SO THAT INCLUDES DUPLEXES OR TRIPLEXES, AGAIN, UP TO FOUR UNITS WITHIN, WITHIN A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. THOSE PROPERTIES THAT, UM, HAVE CALLED THE CITY, UH, 12 OR MORE TIMES OVER THE PAST, UH, 90 DAYS THAT WE WILL REVIEW THE TOP 20. UM, AND THEN WE WILL DETERMINE A COURSE OF ACTION. THE TEAM HAS REVIEW UP TO NOW A TOTAL OF 42 DIFFERENT, UM, ADDRESSES. AND THE RESPONSES WILL BE DIFFERENT DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF CALLS AND THE TYPE OF CALLS THAT [00:20:01] THOSE INDIVIDUALS MADE TO THE CITY. SO, UM, IN DETERMINING THE COURSE OF ACTION, UH, WE WILL BE LOOKING AT CALLS INITIATED BY NEIGHBORS AND CALLS INITIATED WITHIN THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY. AS I MENTIONED, OUR INTENT IS TO TALK TO THE NEIGHBORS WHERE THAT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT. SO WE CAN ALSO GET ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK FROM THE CONCERNS THAT THE COMMUNITY SEES THAT PERHAPS THEY'RE NOT CALLING THE CITY ABOUT. WE'LL REVIEW THE TYPES OF CALLS AND THEN THE, THE COURSE OF ACTION WILL BE, UM, POTENTIALLY TWO THINGS, EITHER CONNECTION TO SERVICES OR ENFORCEMENT. SO CONNECTION TO SERVICES LIKE THE EXAMPLE OF PROPERTY ONE AND TWO. AND I'LL, UH, DRILL DOWN A LITTLE BIT ON PROPERTY. TWO, MOST OF THE CALLS WERE MENTAL HEALTH. SO WHAT WE COULD DO IS SEND ONE OF OUR SPECIALIZED TEAM, FOR EXAMPLE, SA CORE OR THE MENTAL HEALTH UNIT, TO DO A TARGETED CONTACT WITH THAT INDIVIDUAL TO SEE HOW WE CAN ASSIST THAT PARTICULAR INDIVIDUAL AND CONNECT THEM TO THE SERVICES THAT THEY NEED AND REDUCE THOSE NUMBER OF TIMES THAT THEY'RE CALLING 9 1 1. SO, UM, EXAMPLES, UH, ON CONNECTION TO SERVICES, AS I MENTIONED, MENTAL HEALTH RESOURCES, UH, ALSO HOME MINOR REPAIR, SENIOR SERVICES, YOUTH SERVICES, SOMETIMES MEDIATION WITH WITH THE NEIGHBORS. OUR SAFE OFFICERS, UH, THEY DO THAT TODAY. SO WE WOULD ASSIST THEM AND CREATE PROJECTS FOR THEM TO, TO TACKLE SOME OF THESE ISSUES. ENFORCEMENT, WE WILL USE EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TODAY. UM, ANIMAL VIOLATIONS, CODE VIOLATIONS, WHEN NEEDED. WE WILL INVOLVE OUTSIDE AGENCIES LIKE CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES AND ADULT PROTECTIVE SERVICES. AGAIN, EVERY SINGLE ADDRESS WILL REQUIRE A DIFFERENT, UM, SET OF, UH, APPROACH ON HOW WE HANDLE SOME OF THE CHALLENGES. NOW, AS I'M GONNA TAKE YOU BACK TO SLIDE EIGHT TO FURTHER EXPLAIN HOW THE CONNECTION TO SERVICES AND ENFORCEMENT WOULD LOOK LIKE. SO GOING BACK TO SLIDE EIGHT, UH, THE, THE, THE, IN TERMS OF THE DETAIL OF THE 3,200 CALLS THAT I REVIEW WITH YOU, 70% OF THOSE CALLS, UM, WHICH IS A REQUEST FOR ASSISTANCE AND MENTAL HEALTH. THOSE VERY LIKELY NEED CONNECTION TO SERVICES. WE JUST NEED CON TO CONNECT THOSE INDIVIDUALS TO THE SERVICES THAT THE CITY PROVIDES OR NONPROFITS OR OTHER ORGANIZATIONS WITHIN THE CITY. THE LAST TWO, UM, UH, DETAILED DESCRIPTIONS THAT DISTURBANCE AND THE PROPERTY CRIMES, UH, ET CETERA, THAT'S ABOUT 47% OF THE CALLS. THOSE ARE THE CALLS THAT WE ANTICIPATE THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO SOME LEVEL OF ENFORCEMENT TO HAVE THOSE, UM, HOMEOWNERS, UH, IN COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT IS, UM, WHAT IS INCLUDED WITHIN OUR CITY ORDINANCES, UH, OR STATE LAW. SO WHAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING TO THE COUNCIL IS TO BEGIN A PILOT PROGRAM THAT WILL ADDRESS THE FIRST 20 ADDRESSES BEGINNING ON JUNE ONE. NOW, AS THE TEAM CONTINUES TO WORK IN IDENTIFYING THE BEST, UM, ACTIONS TO TARGET THIS INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES, WE'LL BEGIN AS EARLY AS NEXT WEEK TO START CONNECTING SOME OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS TO SERVICES LIKE THOSE TWO TOP ADDRESSES THAT I SHARED WITH YOU TO SEND, FOR EXAMPLE, OUR SA CORE TEAM, OUR MENTAL HEALTH UNIT, UH, TO MAKE A CONNECTION WITH THOSE INDIVIDUALS. UM, OF THE, OF THE 42 PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE REVIEWED, THE TOP 20, AND THEN WE'VE ADDED AN ADDITIONAL 2232 ADDRESSES MOST OF THE CALLS. SO MOST OF THE REASONS WHY THEY CALL 9 1 1 IS MENTAL HEALTH RELATED ISSUES. SO WE FEEL THAT A TARGETED APPROACH WILL BE POSITIVE FOR THE INDIVIDUAL AND IT WILL ALSO REDUCE THE THE 9 1 1 CALLS COMING TO OUR SYSTEM. AS WE CONTINUE WITH OUR PILOT PROGRAM BEGINNING ON JUNE ONE, WE WILL WORK THE MONTHS OF JUNE AND JULY AND THEN, UH, REFINE IF NEEDED AN ORDINANCE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AS WELL AS RESOURCES THAT THE TASK FORCE MAY NEED TO BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAM. AND WE WILL PRESENT THAT TO YOU AS PART OF THE PROPOSED BUDGET, UH, IN AUGUST AND FOR YOUR DISCUSSION IN SEPTEMBER. SO THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, AND I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, LORI HOUSTON, TO GIVE US AN UPDATE ON OUR HOMELESS STRATEGIC PLAN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MARIA, AND GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'M LORI HOUSTON, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AND NOW WE'LL BE PRESENTING THE NEXT PRESENTATION, WHICH IS ABOUT OUR HOMELESS STRATEGIC PLAN. SO OUR HOMELESS STRATEGIC PLAN WAS ADOPTED IN 2021 [00:25:01] AND INCLUDES SEVERAL STRATEGIES TO REDUCE HOMELESSNESS IN SAN ANTONIO. THE FIRST STRATEGY IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT, AND THAT IS TO COORDINATE A LEADERSHIP GROUP ACROSS AGENCIES, EXTERNAL AND INTERNAL TO ADDRESS OUR HOMELESS PROBLEM IN SAN ANTONIO. THE NEXT, INCREASE HOUSING OPTIONS AND EXPAND LOW BARRIER OPTIONS, EXPAND AND PROFESSIONALIZE OUR STREET OUTREACH, DIVERT FROM OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM AND FINALLY INCREASE CONSUMER ENGAGEMENT AND EQUITY. THIS IS THE COMMUNITY'S PLAN. IT DOESN'T JUST BELONG TO THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AND IT'S TO BE IMPLEMENTED BY THE CITY. AND ALL OF OUR PARTNERS AND SEVERAL OF THEM ARE HERE WITH US TODAY. I'D LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE MELANIE WOOSLEY, WHO'S OUR DIRECTOR OF D H S, UM, BRIANNA JJA, WHO IS THE SUPERVISOR OVER OUR 10 OUTREACH TEAM MEMBERS. WE ALSO HAVE VERONICA GARCIA WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICES DEPARTMENT, AND I DID SEE CHIEF MCMANUS HERE AS WELL. THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT WE WORK WITH TO MAKE SURE OUR HOMELESS RESPONSE SYSTEM IS COORDINATED. BUT I'D ALSO LIKE TO RECOGNIZE, UM, SOME OF OUR EXTERNAL PARTNERS THAT INCLUDES DON WHITE WITH CHRISTIAN ACTION MINISTRIES, GAVIN ROGERS WITH CORTISONE MINISTRIES. WE HAVE, I FORGOT TO MENTION JESS HIGGINS, WHO IS OUR CHIEF MENTAL OFFICERS WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. WE ALSO NIKISHA BAKER WITH SAM AND EBONY JET WITH THIS, WITH SOUTH ALAMO REGIONAL ALLIANCE FOR HOMELESSNESS. UM, THIS IS A GROUP THAT MEETS WEEKLY BIWEEKLY TO DISCUSS POLICY ISSUES RELATED TO HOMELESSNESS AND ALSO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ON TRACK TO UPDATE OUR HOMELESS STRATEGIC PLAN. FOR TODAY'S PRESENTATION, I PLAN TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF OUR HOMELESS RESPONSE SYSTEM. ALSO PROVIDE A FIVE YEAR FOR A FIVE YEAR HISTORY OF OUR POINT IN TIME COUNT FOR HOMELESSNESS, AND THEN AN OVERVIEW OF THE INVESTMENT IN OUR HOMELESS SERVICES. AND THEN I'LL GO THROUGH EACH OF THESE STRATEGIES AND GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THEM. THE FIRST IS ABOUT OUR HOMELESS RESPONSE SYSTEM. OUR HOMELESS RESPONSE SYSTEM IS VERY BROAD. IT REALLY STARTS WITH OUTREACH OR AN INTAKE ASSESSMENT. AND THAT IS DONE THROUGH MANY WAYS. IT COULD BE FROM SOMEONE GOING TO HAVEN FOR HOPE AND THEY'LL DO THE INTAKE ASSESSMENT THERE. IT COULD BE FROM ONE OF OUR MANY OUTREACH TEAM MEMBERS WORKING WITH PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON THE STREETS. ALSO, IT COULD HAPPEN THROUGH OUR DAY CENTERS AT CAM AND CORTISONE. IT COULD ALSO HAPPEN THROUGH OUR RESOURCE HUBS OR THROUGH OUR HOMELESS HOTLINE. BUT FROM THERE, THEY DO AN ASSESSMENT TO REALLY IDENTIFY WHAT IS THE BEST APPROACH TO HELP THIS INDIVIDUAL. SOMETIMES IT COULD BE A MOM CALLING THE HOMELESS HOTLINE SAYING THAT SHE IS ONE MONTH AWAY FROM BEING EVICTED AND SHE IS CONCERNED THAT HER FAMILY WILL BE HOMELESS. SO THEN WE WOULD, UM, APPROACH THIS BY DIRECTING THEM TO OUR HOMELESS PREVENTION SERVICES. SO WE MIGHT LOOK AT, UM, RENTAL ASSISTANCE, UTILITY ASSISTANCE, CONNECTING THEM TO SEVERAL SERVICES, MAYBE THROUGH THE FOOD BANK CHILDREN, BUT IT REALLY GOES THROUGH OUR PREVENTATIVE SERVICES DIVISION. NOW, IT ALSO COULD BE SOMEONE WHO IS HOMELESS OR SOMEBODY WHO WHO KNOWS SOMEBODY IS HOMELESS AND THEY NEED DIFFERENT SERVICES, AND THE INTAKE ASSESSMENT WILL ADDRESS THEY NEED SHELTER. SO IF IT'S A FAMILY THAT IS LIVING ON THE STREETS, WE WORK WITH HAVEN FOR HOPE. 'CAUSE HAVEN WILL NEVER DENY A FAMILY ACCESS, UM, TO HAVEN. THEY'LL DO AN INTAKE ASSESSMENT AND WE'LL SEE HOW WE CAN MAP OUT HOW WE CAN GET THEM IN MORE PERMANENT HOUSING. BUT WE'LL LOOK AT THE SERVICES WE NEED TO PROVIDE. ONCE AGAIN, IT COULD BE FOOD, IT COULD BE JOB TRAINING, IT COULD BE WELLNESS CHECKS FOR THE CHILDREN, BUT THE SERVICES AND OUR HOMELESS PREVENTION SERVICES AND OUR HOMELESS RESPONSE SERVICES, ALONG WITH OUR INTAKE ASSESSMENT, THAT MAKES UP OUR HOMELESS RESPONSE SYSTEM. AND IT REQUIRES THE WORK OF 50 PLUS PARTNERS. I MENTIONED A FEW EARLIER, BUT THERE'S SEVERAL OTHER ONES THAT ARE NOT HERE TODAY THAT WE WORK WITH TO MAKE SURE THIS SYSTEM IS SOLID. AND WE GET TO THOSE WHO ARE AT FEAR OF BEING HOMELESS OR AT HOME OR ACTUALLY HOMELESS. NOW, OUR POINT IN TIME COUNT, THIS IS A POINT IN TIME COUNT THAT'S DONE NATIONALLY ON THE SAME NIGHT. AND YOU CAN SEE SINCE 2017, WE'VE BEEN AROUND 2,500 TO 3000 HOMELESS, UM, THAT ARE COUNTED THAT EVENING. WE LOOK AT THE SHELTERED. SO HOW MANY ARE LIVING IN SHELTER AND HOW MANY ARE UNSHELTERED? SO HOW MANY DO WE SEE ON THE STREET NOW? IT'S BEEN ABOUT 3000 IN 2022. AND WE SAW A FEW SPIKES IN THAT NUMBER, UM, FROM 2021 TO 2022. UM, ONE WAS WE SAW MORE FAMILIES BECOMING HOMELESS. AND SO WE HAD A 25% INCREASE IN FAMILY HOMELESSNESS BETWEEN 2021 AND 2022. UM, OF THIS NUMBER, 15% ARE YOUNGER, UM, THAN 17 YEARS OF AGE. SO THERE'S A LARGE AMOUNT OF CHILDREN WHO ARE ACTUALLY CONSIDERED HOMELESS. 26% ARE 55 YEARS OR OLDER, 7% ARE VETERANS AND 7% [00:30:01] IDENTIFY AS LBQT PLUS. AND SO WE HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT POPULATIONS THAT ARE HOMELESS AND WE HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT PARTNERS TO HELP US TARGET THOSE POPULATIONS. BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WHILE THE NUMBER HASN'T CHANGED MUCH, WE HAVE SEEN A SHIFT IN CERTAIN POPULATIONS AND WE SEE THAT WE TRY TO ADDRESS IT BY ADDING MORE RESOURCES. SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE FAMILIES, UM, WE'VE WORKED WITH HAVEN, WE'VE WORKED WITH OTHER, UM, SHELTERS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE APPROPRIATE SHELTER. WE ALSO STRENGTHEN COMMUNICATION AMONG OUR STREET OUTREACH TEAM TO MAKE SURE THEY KNOW THAT WE WILL NEVER TURN A FAMILY AWAY. AND THEN WE ALSO WORK WITH, UM, OUR FUNDING. AND WE MAY SHIFT FUNDING BASED ON THAT PRIORITY POPULATION THAT WE'VE SEEN. NOW, OUR HOMELESS INVESTMENT BETWEEN THE CITY, THE COUNTY, OUR LOCAL, UM, THE CITY, THE COUNTY, THE STATE AND FEDERAL PARTNERS, WE SPEND ABOUT $76.8 MILLION, UM, ON HOMELESS PREVENTION AND HOMELESSNESS. AND OF THAT AMOUNT, THE CITY PROVIDES 17.5 MILLION IN DIRECT SERVICES. AND THIS COULD BE FOR CITY STAFFING PROGRAMMING SUPPORT OR OUR PARTNERS LIKE HAVEN FOR HOPE. SAM MINISTRIES, CORTISONE MINISTRIES. AND THERE'S ANOTHER 21.4 MILLION THAT'S INDIRECT SERVICES, AND THAT REPRESENTS FIRE, POLICE, AND SOLID WASTE. THE REMAINING $38 MILLION, IT COMES FROM OUR OTHER PUBLIC PARTNERS. AND THEN THE REST IS FROM, UM, THE REST OUTSIDE OF THE 76.8 MILLION MIGHT COME FROM GRANTS THAT THESE INDIVIDUAL ORGANIZATIONS RECEIVE. SO I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT. UM, WITH MY NEXT EXAMPLE. SO ABOUT 30% OR 5 MILLION OF THE FUNDING FOR DIRECT SERVICES GOES TO HAVEN FOR HOPE. OUR FUNDING REPRESENTS ABOUT 20% OF HAVEN'S BUDGET. SO THEIR TOTAL BUDGET IS ABOUT 27 MILLION. IN ADDITION TO OUR 20%, THEY HAVE ABOUT 43% THAT COMES FROM FEDERAL, LOCAL, AND STATE PARTNERS. AND THE REST IS THROUGH THEIR, THEIR FUNDRAISING EFFORTS. BUT WE GET A LARGE, A LARGE RETURN BECAUSE OF OUR INVESTMENT. AND SO, FOR EXAMPLE, HAVEN PROVIDED SERVICES TO SEVEN UNDUPLICATED CLIENTS LAST YEAR. AND THIS INCLUDES A THOUSAND CHILDREN. HAVEN WAS ABLE TO PLACE 2,700 CLIENTS INTO SUPPORTIVE HOUSING OR OTHER HOUSING THAT'S MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL IN FISCAL YEAR 2022. AND IT COSTS ABOUT $40,000 FOR SOMEONE TO BE HOMELESS. BUT IF WE GET THEM HOUSING IN THE, IN ITS PERMANENT HOUSING THAT'S SUPPORTED BY SERVICES, THAT COST REDUCES BY 20 20,000. SO FOR HAVEN'S, 2,700 CLIENTS THAT THEY HELP FIND HOUSING, SO THEY TOOK THEM OFF THE STREET, THEY WERE IN HAVEN TEMPORARILY, AND THEN THEY PUT THEM IN MORE PERMANENT HOUSING. THEY SAVED US THE COMMUNITY ABOUT $50 MILLION BECAUSE THOSE INDIVIDUALS WERE NO LONGER ON THE STREET. AND THAT COST COMES FROM THE PUBLIC SECTOR AND OTHER SOURCES, OR WE DON'T DO ANYTHING. AND THE PROBLEM IS EXASPERATED. WE ALSO PROVIDE FUNDING TO SAM. AND IN 2022, THEY SERVED ABOUT 4,400 FAMILIES AND THEY PROVIDED HOMELESS PREVENTION SERVICES TO 1200 FAMILIES. SO THAT'S 1200 FAMILIES THAT COULD HAVE GONE BECOME HOMELESS, AND THAT WOULD'VE COST US ABOUT 30 TO $40,000 TO HELP PROVIDE SERVICES OR THEY PREVENT THEM FROM BECOMING HOMELESS. AND THAT SAVES US THAT MONEY. AND SO ALL OF OUR INVESTMENTS THAT WE MAKE HAVE SOME TYPE OF VALUE, AND WE HAVE TO LOOK AT OUR INVESTMENTS AS A SYSTEM AND NOT JUST WHAT THE CITY'S PROVIDING BECAUSE THE CITY'S PROVIDING FUNDING TO HELP ALL OF OUR OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, UM, BE, BE SUCCESSFUL. AND THE LAST ONE I WANNA MENTION IS CORTISONE MINISTRIES HARM REDUCTION PROGRAM. THEY PROVIDED ABOUT 150,000 CLEAN NEEDLES IN THEIR PROGRAM THIS YEAR. THAT MEANS THEY PREVENTED SO MANY PEOPLE FROM NOT GETTING SICK, HAVING TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL. AND THEY ALSO PROVIDED 1500 INDIVIDUALS, UM, ACCESS TO NARCAN. AND SO REVERSING THAT OVERDOSE AND THAT INDIVIDUAL COULD HAVE DIED. AND SO THOSE ARE EXAMPLES ON OUR RETURNS, AND YOU REALLY CAN'T PUT A VALUE ON SAVING A LIFE. AND SO OUR INVESTMENT OF $17.5 MILLION IN OUR AGENCIES REALLY HAS A HUGE RETURN AND YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT SYSTEMATICALLY. NOW, I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT EACH OF THESE STRATEGIES INDIVIDUALLY AND PROVIDE AN UPDATE. SO THE FIRST IS COORDINATE OUR LEADERSHIP IMPACT [00:35:01] GROUP. THIS IS SIMILAR TO OUR HOUSING SYSTEM. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A COORDINATED HOUSING SYSTEM. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A COORDINATED HOMELESS SYSTEM. AND SO IN JANUARY, 2021, SARAH BOARD ADOPTED OUR HOMELESS STRATEGIC PLAN AS A COMMUNITIES PLAN. THAT IS THE FIRST STEP IN MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE COORDINATED. WE HAVE ONE PLAN THAT EVERYONE IS FOLLOWING, AND WE ARE TRYING TO HIT THOSE GOALS TOGETHER. SARAH'S BOARD REPRESENTS A BROAD COALITION WITH REPRESENTATION FROM BUSINESSES, SERVICE PROVIDERS, HEALTHCARE, LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT. AND THEY WILL TRACK THE PROGRESS THAT WE'RE MAKING ON OUR STRATEGIC PLAN AND OTHER POLICY EFFORTS. AND THEY'VE ALSO CREATED A DASHBOARD THAT WAS LIVE IN JANUARY THAT YOU CAN GO TO SEE HOW WE'RE DOING ON THOSE METRICS. AND THEN IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR, SARAH CREATED THE HOMELESS STRATEGIC PLAN OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. AND THIS OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE IS SOLELY FOCUSED ON THOSE FIVE STRATEGIES THEY PROVIDED AN OVERVIEW FOR. AND IT'S REALLY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ALL ALIGNED IN OUR IMPLEMENTATION OF THESE STRATEGIES AND WE ALIGN OUR FUNDING SOURCES. AND THE LAST THING I WANNA MENTION IS THEY RECENTLY CREATED A COMMITTEE THAT'S A LI UM, A LIVED EXPERIENCE ADVISORY BOARD. AND THAT IS THOSE WHO HAVE EXPERIENCED HOMELESSNESS, WHO CAN HELP US ADVISE US ON SOME OF THE STRATEGIES AND THE APPROACHES. AND THAT WAS RECENTLY CREATED. AND THAT'S ANOTHER LEVEL THAT HELPS US WITH OUR IMPLEMENTATION AND OUR COORDINATION AND OUR ACCOUNTABILITY. THE SECOND STRATEGY WAS TO INCREASE AFFORDABLE AND SPECIALTY HOUSING OPTIONS. NOW, THIS WAS ADOPTED IN 2021. WE MADE A HUGE STEP TOWARDS THIS GOAL. WHEN THE COMMUNITY ADOPTED, ADOPTED OR APPROVED THE MAY, 2022 HOUSING BOND, IT WAS $150 MILLION. AND WE ISSUED OUR FIRST ROUND OF FUNDS LAST YEAR, AND IT YIELDED ABOUT 763 UNITS THAT ARE AT OR BELOW 50% A M I. THIS IS WHAT THE BOND COMMITTEE WANTED. THIS IS WHAT OUR HOUSING COMMISSION WANTED. WE WANNA HAVE DEEPLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT WE CAN HELP PEOPLE WHO WERE AT HAVEN OR THESE SHELTERS TRANSITION TO SO THEY CAN AFFORD THIS HOUSING. WE WILL BE DOING THE NEXT ROUND, AND THAT'LL BE COMING TO COUNCIL IN JUNE OF HOW WE'RE GONNA SPEND THE REMAINING GAP FINANCING FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION. THE OTHER THING IS PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. WE NEED ABOUT A THOUSAND NEW UNITS OF PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. AND WE ALREADY HAVE REACHED ABOUT A THIRD OF THAT GOAL BECAUSE WE HAD THE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING BOND ALLOCATION. AND WE WILL BE COMING TO COUNCIL IN A B SESSION NEXT WEEK WITH THOSE AWARDS. BUT THAT WILL YIELD 288 NEW P S H UNITS. AND THAT'S IN ADDITION TO WHAT TOWN VILLAGE HAS ALREADY ADDED. AND THAT'S 60 UNITS. SO WE ARE ALREADY A THIRD AWAY OF OUR GOAL AND WE'RE ONLY IN YEAR TWO OF THAT GOAL. AND THEN FINALLY, LOW BARRIER SHELTER. WE DO NEED LOWER A LOW BARRIER SHELTER. AND WITH OUR OUTREACH TEAM, WHEN THEY'RE TALKING TO INDIVIDUALS, THEY DON'T WANT TO GO TO HAVEN BECAUSE THERE'S CERTAIN RULES THEY DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE THERE. AND SO WE DID OPEN A LOW BARRIER SHELTER THAT'S IN A HOTEL, UM, NEAR THE INTERSTATE. AND THE ALAMO, IT'S OPERATED BY SAM. THEY HAVE ABOUT 40 UNITS, AND THAT'S BEEN AT CAPACITY THROUGHOUT THE TIME IT'S BEEN OPENED. WE NEED ANOTHER OPTION. UM, IN DISCUSSING WITH THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE ON THE STREET. THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THEIR OWN ROOM. THEY DON'T WANT TO GO TO CONGREGATE SHELTER, AND THEIR NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO GO TO PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. NOT EVERYONE IS MADE FOR CONGREGATE SHELTER, AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A VARIETY OF OPTIONS FOR THE UNSHELTERED AND THAT WE ALSO HAVE NEW AFFORDABLE HOUSING PRODUCTS ONLINE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN HELP UPLIFT FAMILIES AND TRANSITION THEM UP. THE THIRD ONE I WANNA TALK ABOUT IS EXPAND AND PROFESSIONALIZE OUR STREET OUTREACH. WE HAVE A GREAT STREET OUTREACH TEAM WITH A CITY. WE HAVE 11 MEMBERS, AND IT'S LED BY BRIANNA WHO'S HERE TODAY WITH US. AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER 10 THAT ARE WORKING IN YOUR DISTRICTS. IN ADDITION TO THOSE 10, WE HAVE ANOTHER 25 THAT COME FROM CORTISONE CAM HAVEN, SAM. AND WE ARE WORKING TOGETHER DAILY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT INDIVIDUAL CLIENTS. WE'RE COORDINATED THROUGH THE H M I S SYSTEM AND WE CAN LEAN ON EACH OTHER REGARDLESS OF YOU'RE THE CITY OR CORTISONE TO PROVIDE SERVICES. AND SO THIS COORDINATION HAS INCREASED, UM, TREMENDOUSLY FOR THE PAST SIX MONTHS. UM, WE'VE ALSO ENROLLED 1700 CLIENTS SINCE FEBRUARY, 2021, INTO THE H M I ASSISTANCE SYSTEM, WHICH IS THE SYSTEM THAT ALL PARTIES USE WHEN [00:40:01] THEY ARE DOING HOMELESS OUTREACH. AND THEN WE HAVE 270 ACTIVE CASE MANAGEMENT TODAY, AND THAT IS ALL OF US WORKING TOGETHER. OUR HOMELESS CONNECTIONS HOTLINE, WHICH IS A HOTLINE FUNDED AND OPERATED BY THE CITY, IT'S RESPONDED TO OVER 38,000 CALLS SINCE OCTOBER OF 2020. AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO MENTION THIS, THAT A LOT OF THOSE CALLS ARE MORE ABOUT HOMELESS PREVENTION OR ASKING FOR DIRECTION TO RESOURCES. AND THEN WE DO GET CALLS ABOUT, UM, FAMILIES WHO ARE, WHO ARE ON THE STREETS. MAYBE IT'S SOMEBODY WHO'S DRIVING BY, THEY SAW SOMEONE, SO WE KNOW TO SEND OUT AN OUTREACH MEMBER. UM, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THOSE CALLS ARE REQUESTS FOR SERVICES. BUT WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS OVER THE NEXT YEAR, WE ARE GOING TO WORK ON A MANUAL, A TRAINING MANUAL AND COORDINATION PLAN. SO WE HAVE THIS COORDINATED OUTREACH TEAM AND, BUT WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A GOOD ONBOARDING PROGRAM FOR THEM. AND RETENTION IS HARD IN THIS FIELD BECAUSE IT'S REALLY, REALLY HARD WORK. I WOULD SAY THAT OUR OUTREACH WORKERS PROBABLY HAVE ONE OF THE HARDEST JOBS IN OUR COMMUNITY, SO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE ONBOARD AND THEY FEEL PREPARED TO GO OUT IN THE FIELD AND EXPERIENCE THE THINGS THAT THEY ARE GOING TO SEE. WE ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS GREAT TEAM BUILDING OPPORTUNITIES. AS I MENTIONED, THE 11 CITY OUTREACH WORKERS, WE CAN'T DO IT ALONE. WE HAVE TO WORK WITH CORTISONE, WE HAVE TO WORK WITH CAM, WE HAVE TO WORK WITH SAM AND HAVEN FOR HOPE, AND WE ARE ALL OUT IN THE FIELD AND WE NEED TO HAVE HAVE A TEAM BUILDING OPPORTUNITY AND WE'RE WORKING ON THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN WORK AS A TEAM. IT IS REALLY EXPENSIVE IF THERE'S, UM, OVERTURN A TURNOVER IN OUR HOMELESS OUTREACH TEAM. SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN PREVENT THAT BY PROVIDING GOOD TRAINING AND A GOOD TEAM ENVIRONMENT. THE NEXT ONE IS OUR HARM REDUCTION PROGRAM. THAT IS A PROGRAM THAT WE FUND THAT COMES OUT OF OUR HOMELESS, PREVENT OUR STREET OUTREACH TEAM. BUT, UM, IT'S ADMINISTERED BY, UM, CORTISONE MINISTRIES. AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THEY PROVIDE LIFESAVING SKILLS. THEY, THEY HANDLE OVER 158,000 NEW NEEDLES THIS PAST YEAR. UM, THEY'VE SAVED LIVES BY THE USE OF NARCAN 1500 THIS PAST YEAR. AND WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO ENHANCE AND EXPAND, EXPAND THAT PROGRAM. AND IT COULD BE FINANCIALLY, IT ALSO COULD BE LEVERAGE PARTNERS. I KNOW THAT CORTISONE HAS A GREAT PARTNERSHIP WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND WE NEED LOOK AT OTHER PARTNERSHIPS LIKE THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN LEVERAGE THEM, BUT THERE MAY BE ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT WE MAY BE REQUESTING, UM, IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET. AND THEN FINALLY, I WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR ENCAMPMENT ENCAMPMENT ABATEMENT GUIDELINES. AND SO ENCAMPMENT ABATEMENT HAS BEEN A HOT TOPIC OVER THE PAST COUPLE YEARS, AND WE DID SEE A LARGE INCREASE DURING THE PANDEMIC, PRIMARILY BECAUSE WE COULDN'T PROVIDE CLEANUP BECAUSE OF COVID. AND SO WE, WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING, UM, DURING THAT TIME. AND NOW WE ARE DOING CLEANUP AND WE DO HAVE PROTOCOLS FOR THAT. WE ARE REQUIRED BY THE STATE TO WRITE PROPER NOTIFICATION TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS, UM, IN THE AREA THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE CLEANING UP. WE JUST CAN'T GO AND SURPRISE THEM AND TAKE THEIR, THEIR BELONGINGS. SO WE HAVE NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS, WE HAVE COORDINATION REQUIREMENTS, WHO DO WE NEED TO COORDINATE WITH? AND ALSO WE HAVE, UM, CLEANUP REQUIREMENTS. AND SO WE KNOW THAT DAVID NEWMAN WAS SOLID WASTE. THEY'RE A HUGE PARTNER IN THIS EFFORT, AND THEY HELPED US WITH THAT CLEANUP. UM, IN FISCAL YEAR 2022, WE DID 308 EVENTS COMPARED TO THOSE IN 21, WHICH IS 217. FISCAL YEAR 23 WE'RE DOING, WE'VE DONE 232 AND THAT'S YEAR TO DATE AND WILL MOST LIKELY EXCEED THAT 2022 NUMBER. AND SO ONCE AGAIN, WE'VE GONE BACK TO OUR OUTREACH WORKERS AND ASKED THEM FOR THEIR INPUT ON THIS ENCAMPMENT ABATEMENT PROCESS. WE ALSO INCORPORATED FEEDBACK FROM SS A P D AND OUR SOLID WASTE DIVISION AND OTHER PARTNERS ON HOW WE CAN UPDATE AND IMPROVE OUR ENCAMPMENT PROTOCOLS. UM, AND WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS WE NEED TO CLEARLY IDENTIFY THE DISTINCT ROLE FOR EACH PARTY. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE, UM, ELABORATED HEALTH AND SAFETY REVIEW PROCESS, UM, AND THE EXPECTATIONS OF THE CLIENTS ARE VERY CLEAR AND WE PROVIDE AMPLE NOTICE TO THAT CLIENT. SO, AND WE ALSO NEED AMPLE NOTICE ON OUR END WHEN WE'RE GONNA BE DOING THE CLEANUP, WHICH WE DO, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE CAN FIND HOUSING FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE GONNA BE REMOVING FROM THAT ENCAMPMENT. BECAUSE IF WE JUST GO IN OR AND DO AN ENCAMPMENT CLEANUP, THEY'RE GONNA END UP MOST LIKELY AT CAM MINISTRIES TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO LIVE. AND SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE PROVIDING NOTICE, LETTING 'EM KNOW THEY NEED TO LEAVE, WORKING WITH THEM TO HELP THEM IDENTIFY SHELTER OPPORTUNITIES. [00:45:01] SO WHEN WE DO TO GO CLEAN IT UP, THEY KNOW WHERE THEY CAN GO AND WHERE THERE'S A BED FOR THEM. UM, SO WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT PILOT MODELS. UM, WE'VE SEEN THAT HOUSTON STARTED A PILOT AND THEY'RE DOING INTENSIVE OUTREACH, UM, AND, UM, HOUSING PRIORITIES PRIORITIZATION FOR THESE ENCAMPMENTS. SO THEY WILL TAKE ALL OF THEIR TEAM, THEY WILL GO TO ONE AREA AND THEY'LL WORK IN THAT AREA FOR TWO TO THREE MONTHS AND JUST WORK WITH EACH CLIENT, UM, AND HELP THEM WITH THEIR HOUSING NEEDS, GET THEM TO THE NEXT PLACE. NOW THAT TAKES CAPACITY AWAY FROM OTHER ENCAMPMENTS, BUT WE'RE WAITING TO HEAR SOME OF THE SUCCESS STORIES FROM HOUSTON TO SEE, WELL, MAYBE THE RETURN RATE TO THE STREET IS LESS BECAUSE WE FOUND THEM PERMANENT HOUSING SOLUTIONS. SO WE ARE GONNA BE WORKING ON CLEANING THESE UP, DOING MORE STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS ON THESE ENCAMPMENT UPDATES. AND, UM, HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO START THEM, UM, BEFORE FISCAL YEAR 24 BEGINS. A REALLY IMPORTANT ONE IS TO DIVI DIVERT FROM THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE A CRIMINAL RECORD THAT WILL KEEP YOU FROM BEING ABLE TO LEASE AN APARTMENT OR SECURE HOUSING. AND SO IN 2022, THE MUNICIPAL COURT AND BEXAR COUNTY DA JUDGMENT DIAZ AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS STARTED TO LOOK AT HOW THEY CAN ENHANCE CONNECTIONS AND REMOVE BARRIERS TO HOUSING THROUGH THE COURT PROCESS. AND SO FOR MUNICIPAL COURT DOCKETS, UM, WE WILL HAVE A QUALITY OF LIFE DOCKET AND THAT'S CURRENTLY OCCURRING. SO WE'LL HAVE D H S STAFF AT THAT DOCKET. UM, AND THIS IS FOR LOW LEVEL OFFENSES, AND THE INDIVIDUAL IS REQUIRED TO MAKE A COURT APPEARANCE AT THAT APPEARANCE. WE WILL DISMISS THE TICKET BASED ON CERTAIN CONDITIONS AND ACCEPTING HELP, GETTING, UM, CONNECTING THEM TO SERVICES. UM, BUT THE BIGGER ISSUE REALLY IS AT THE, UM, COUNTY COURT. THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE THE CLASS A AND B MISDEMEANORS. AND WE ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE MORE INTERVENTIONS AT THE COUNTY COURT, AND WE'RE GONNA START THAT, UM, IN THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS. AND SO WE'VE HAD A GREAT PARTNER IN THE DA'S OFFICE, UM, WORKING WITH SOME OF THE JUDGES, AND THEY WILL BE A DOCKET. WE ALREADY HAVE SIX INDIVIDUALS WHO'VE ALREADY SIGNED UP FOR THAT DOCKET. WE WILL HAVE SERVICE PROVIDERS THERE TO HELP THEM WITH THE OTHER SERVICES, AND THERE'LL BE CONDITIONS OF THAT TICKET DISMISSAL. UM, AND IT'LL ALSO HELP THEM CONNECT THEM TO SERVICES AND HOPEFULLY, ULTIMATELY GET THEM IN HOUSING OR JOB TRAINING. AND THEN THE LAST ONE, WHICH I WOULD PROBABLY SAY IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ONES, IS INCREASING A CONSUMER ENGAGEMENT AND EQUITY. UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I LEARNED WHEN I WAS GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE ON THE HOMELESS, UM, DIVISION WAS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THIS GREAT OUTREACH TEAM, BUT SOMETIMES WE, WE ARE CREATING THE POLICIES AND WE'RE CREATING THE RULES FOR THEM TO FOLLOW. SO WE'VE DONE A GREAT JOB OF ENGAGING THEM AND CREATING THESE POLICIES AND THESE NEW GUIDELINES, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO ENGAGE THOSE WITH LIVED EXPERIENCE BECAUSE THESE ARE POLICIES THAT, THAT WOULD'VE IMPACTED THEM IF THEY WERE STILL HOMELESS. AND THEIR FEEDBACK IS VERY IMPORTANT. UM, WE ALSO HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ACCOUNTABLE TO THE PUBLIC AND HOW WE'RE USING OUR FUNDING AND HOW WE'RE FOLLOWING THE STRATEGIC PLAN. SO SARAH STARTED THEIR DASHBOARD, IT WAS IN SEPTEMBER OF 2022. YOU CAN GO ON THE DASHBOARD AND IT SHOWS OUR SUCCESSES, SHOWS HOW MANY PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING UNITS ARE UNDERWAY, UM, HOW MANY SERVICES HAVE BEEN PROVIDED, AND YOU CAN BREAK THAT UP BY, UM, DEMOGRAPHIC. AND THEN IN FALL OF 2022 AND THROUGH THE SPRING OF 2023, WE'VE WORKING ON CREATING THIS, UM, LIVED EXPERIENCE BOARD. AND THAT'S GONNA, THAT LAUNCHED IN NOVEMBER OF 2022. BUT WE'RE ALSO USING THOSE MEMBERS TO SERVE ON R F P SELECTION COMMITTEES BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN, THEIR INPUT IS VERY VALUABLE AND WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO SERVE OUR UNSHELTERED CLIENTS TO ASSESS THEIR NEEDS AND DESIRES FOR PROGRAMS. AND THEN WE ARE EXPANDING OUR RESOURCE HUB PARTNERSHIPS. UM, CURRENTLY TWO HUBS. WE HAVE HARPER'S CHAPEL MINISTRIES AND JACOBS CHAPEL, AND WE ARE WORKING TO BRING THE SERVICES TO THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE HOMELESS ON THE STREET. AND WE'RE TRYING TO EXPAND THOSE PROGRAMS SO WE HAVE MORE BANDWIDTH TO, TO DO OTHER, UM, INITIATIVES WITHIN THE HOMELESS PLAN. SO OUR NEXT STEPS, UM, ONGOING, WE'RE WORKING ON THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE HOMELESS STRATEGIC PLAN. IT HAS A 10 YEAR TIMELINE, SO IT WAS ADOPTED IN 2021. OUR GOAL IS TO GET THESE STRATEGIES IMPLEMENTED BY 2031. WE'LL RELEASE, UM, OUR CONSOLIDATED FUNDING R F P THAT'S ALREADY UNDERWAY. WE HAVE THE P S H BOND RECOMMENDATIONS. THEY'LL [00:50:01] BE COMING TO CITY COUNCIL, UM, NEXT WEEK FOR A B SESSION. AND THEN TO COUNCIL. WE ALSO HAVE SOME HOME ARPA FUNDING FOR OUR TENANT-BASED RELOCATION ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, UM, THAT HELPS WITH HOMELESS PREVENTION. AND THEN WE HAVE OUR PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR 24 BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON. AND THEN, UM, WE ARE WORKING ON OUR ENHANCED TRAINING CURRICULUM FOR OUTREACH STAFF. SO WE WILL START THAT THIS SUMMER. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, AND I BELIEVE I'M TO PASS IT OVER TO I CAN'T, I, IT'S CHIEF BLAN AND I'M SORRY I DON'T HAVE MY GLASSES AND I TOTALLY FORGOT HIS NAME. NO WORRIES. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR COUNSEL. MY NAME'S ROBERT BLANTON, DEPUTY CHIEF WITH THE SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT. UM, AND I'LL BE PROVIDING A BRIEFING TODAY ON OUR, UH, STAFFING PLAN THAT THE WORK WE DID, UH, TO DATE WITH OUR CONSULTANT. UM, SORRY, WE'RE HAVING A TECHNICAL THANK YOU. SO, AS I MENTIONED, WE WORK WITH OUR CONSULTANT TO IDENTIFY, UH, TODAY WITH, UH, THE STAFFING ANALYSIS FOR OUR PATROL DIVISION. THAT'S, UH, THE BACKBONE OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND THE GOALS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT ANALYSIS WOULD DETERMINE OPTIMAL OFFICER WORKLOAD, UH, RECOMMEND APPROPRIATE NUMBER OF SWORN PERSONNEL. I KNOW THAT COMES UP EVERY YEAR AT BUDGET. WHAT, WHAT IS THE RIGHT NUMBER OF POLICE OFFICERS? THAT WAS DEFINITELY ONE OF THE GOALS. UH, HELP US IDENTIFY ALLOCATION AND DEPLOYMENT EFFICIENCIES, GUIDE OUR ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE AND DEPLOYMENT STRATEGIES. AND AS ALWAYS, WE WANT TO INCREASE OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, ALL THOSE GOALS. THE BACKDROP TO THAT WERE CONSIDERATION STRIKING A BALANCE BETWEEN THE THREE THINGS YOU SEE OUT THERE AT THE BOTTOM, UH, A GROWING COMMUNITY HERE IN SAN ANTONIO AS FOLKS TEND TO, UH, CONTINUE TO MOVE HERE TO WORK AND LIVE HEIGHTENED PUBLIC EXPECTATIONS WITH RESPECT TO POLICING AND BEING FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE WITH THE, UH, EXPENDITURE OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS. SO WHAT IS THE CALL VOLUME FOR THE SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT? UH, ANNUALLY, UH, OUR DEPARTMENT RESPONDS TO OVER 2 MILLION CALLS THAT'S BROKEN DOWN BETWEEN EMERGENCY AND NON-EMERGENCY, UM, ABOUT 1.4, 1.3 MILLION 9 1 1 CALLS, AND RIGHT AT A MILLION, UH, NON-EMERGENCY CALLS. IT'S A SIGNIFICANT VOLUME OF CALLS. OUR DEPARTMENT DOES WELL HANDLING THAT, AND OBVIOUSLY THE PUBLIC EXPECTS A TIMELY RESPONSE TO THOSE CALLS, THE METHODS THAT DEPARTMENT USE TO DETERMINE THEIR PATROL STAFFING. THERE'S FOUR MAIN METHODS. I'LL START WITH THE MOST BASIC, AND IT'S THE PER CAPITA METHOD. THIS IS THE OFFICER TO POPULATION RATIO. IF YOU READ, UH, LITERATURE AND WHATNOT, TYPICALLY IT'S IDENTIFIED AS TWO OFFICERS PER 1000 POPULATION IS SORT OF THE STANDARD. UM, NOT, NOT VERY SCIENTIFIC. AND IT ASSUMES THAT, UH, CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY HAVE THE SAME SORT OF NEED AS IT RELATES TO PUBLIC SAFETY, AND IT DOESN'T ACCOUNT FOR MAYBE INDIVI INDIVIDUALIZED CRIME PATTERNS, ET CETERA. THE SECOND, UH, METHOD IS MINIMUM STAFFING. THIS IS THE METHOD WE USED TO USE, UH, PROBABLY SIX, SEVEN YEARS AGO BEFORE WE SWITCHED TO THE WORKLOAD BASED MODEL. BUT IT ESSENTIALLY IS AN ESTIMATION OF THE NUMBER OF OFFICERS, THE MINIMUM NUMBER OF OFFICERS NEEDED ON EACH SHIFT ON EACH DAY OF THE WEEK TO RESPOND TO THE CALLS THAT ARE COMING IN. SO IT DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF PROACTIVE, UH, TIME RESERVED AS IT'S A MINIMUM STAFFING. THE THIRD IS AUTHORIZED LEVEL. THIS IS A FISCAL, UH, DETERMINANT FOR STAFFING. PRIMARILY IT'S WHAT, WHAT CAN YOU AFFORD? WHAT DOES THE BUDGET ALLOW? AND THAT'S WHAT YOU STAFF FOR. UH, FINALLY, THE WORKLOAD BASED MODEL IS MORE OF A DATA-DRIVEN APPROACH, UH, TO OFFICER WORK TIME. IT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT, UM, THEIR TIME ON CALL AND OFF CALL. AND IT'S THE PREFERRED METHOD AS IT PROVIDES THE BEST ESTIMATION BASED ON QUANTITATIVE ANALYSIS. SO THE METHODOLOGY TO DETERMINE THAT WORKLOAD BASED MODEL, OUR CONSULTANT REVIEWED DATA BY SERVICE AREA AND SHIFT FOR THE PATROL FUNCTION, UH, TO DETERMINE THE RECORD NUMBER, RECOMMENDED NUMBER OF SWORN PERSONNEL NEEDED. THAT STARTS WITH THE ASSESSMENT OF WHAT'S COMING IN, WHAT'S THE LOAD COMING IN? AND SO THAT'S THERE, THE BOX ON THE LEFT, IT'S THE NUMBER OF CALLS FOR SERVICE BREAKDOWN BY PRIORITY. WHAT ARE THOSE? HOW URGENT ARE THOSE? WHERE, WHERE DO THEY FALL WITHIN OUR PRIORITIZATION AND ANALYSIS OF CALL VOLUME BY HOUR AND, UH, DAY OF WEEK, ONCE YOU HAVE THAT ASSESSED, THEN YOU CONVERT THAT TO TIME. HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU NEED TO ADDRESS THAT LOAD? AND SO THERE YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT, UH, THE MIDDLE BOX THERE, THE AVERAGE RESPONSE TIME, AVERAGE TIME SPENT ON CALL, AND OF COURSE, AGAIN, THE NUMBER OF CALLS FOR [00:55:01] SERVICE BY SHIFT IN SERVICE AREAS. SO ONCE YOU HAVE THE LOAD, THE TIME ON THE LOAD, NOW YOU LOOK AT YOUR STAFFING, YOUR PERSONNEL THAT YOU HAVE EXISTING, AND YOU CALCULATE BASED ON THE NUMBER OF OFFICERS ASSIGNED PER SHIFT AND THE MAXIMUM, UH, CAPACITY THEY HAVE TO WORK DURING A WORK PERIOD. AND NOW YOU CAN DEVELOP THAT RATIO OF WORKLOAD BASED, UH, SPLIT TIME ON CALL AND TIME OFF CALL. FOR THESE PURPOSES. OUR CONSULTANT RECOMMENDED A 40 60 SPLIT. THAT'S 40% OF THEIR TIME ON CALL AND 60% OF THEIR TIME OFF CALL. SO THIS TIME OFF CALL, WE'LL CALL IT DISCRETIONARY TIME. UH, WHAT, WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS OF THAT? WELL, OBVIOUSLY IT'S ENHANCED PRESENCE AND INCREASED PROACTIVITY WITHIN THE PATROL FUNCTION. THAT PROACTIVITY IS IMPORTANT FOR CRIME PREVENTION. THAT IS GONNA GIVE OUR OFFICERS MORE TIME TO ENGAGE IN OUR VIOLENT CRIME REDUCTION PLAN AND ALSO TO, UH, SPEND PROACTIVE TIME TRYING TO ADDRESS PROPERTY CRIME AND DETERRING THOSE, THOSE CRIMES IN OUR, IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. AND, AND, AND, UH, BUSINESS AREAS. ALSO, TARGET ENFORCEMENT. UM, I THINK MUCH, MUCH OF YOU, LIKE WE DO, WHEN YOU TALK TO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND STUFF, YOU HEAR QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES ARE USUALLY AT THE TOP OF THE LIST. UH, STUFF LIKE PANHANDLING, UH, CRIMES RELATED, UH, TO, YOU KNOW, DISORDER AND WHATNOT ARE, ARE, UH, ARE AT THE TOP. SO THAT'LL GIVE US MORE TIME, OUR OFFICERS MORE TIME TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES. ALSO, TRAFFIC LAWS, UH, WE'VE RECEIVED REQUESTS FOR, FOR SPEEDING IN VARIOUS AREAS. UM, WE'VE SEEN ACROSS THE STATE AND COUNTRY, THESE STREET TAKEOVER SORT OF SPONTANEOUS EVENTS FOR THESE, UM, FOLKS ENGAGED IN THIS REALLY RECKLESS DRIVING. IT'S VERY DANGEROUS. UM, YOU NEED TIME TO, TO DEDICATE, UH, TIME OFF CALL TO DEDICATE A RESPONSE TO THAT. UH, WE, WE DO A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF THAT HERE. WHEN WE HAVE A IDEA THAT IT MIGHT HAPPEN, WE PULL FOLKS OFF OF PATROL AND HOLD THEM SPECIFICALLY SO THEY CAN ADDRESS THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE. ALSO, OUR, UH, DRIVING WHILE INTOXICATED, OUR CRIMES RELATED TO INTOXICATION. UM, WE'VE SEEN OUR FATALITY ACCIDENTS CONTINUE TO RISE. AND, UH, SO IN THE EVENING HOURS, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN INTOXICATION IS MAYBE MORE PREVALENT, WE CAN THOSE OFFICERS HAVE MORE TIME TO ADDRESS, UH, THAT CRIME ISSUE. ALSO, INCREASED VISIBILITY. IF, I'LL ASK YOU TO REMEMBER A COUPLE YEARS AGO, UM, WE DID THE, UH, SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY SURVEY. AND IN THAT SURVEY, UM, ALMOST 60% OF THE RESPONDENTS INDICATED THEY WANTED TO SEE INCREASED, UH, PATROLS, INCREASED VISIBILITY AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THIS WILL GIVE OUR OFFICERS MORE TIME TO PATROL THEIR ASSIGNED AREAS AND ACHIEVE THAT INCREASED VISIBILITY, CUSTOMER SERVICE. UM, OBVIOUSLY IF YOU ARE, WHEN THESE CALLS START TO BACK UP AS THEY DO DURING PEAK HOURS, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S PRESSURE AND PUSH FOR OFFICERS TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT CALL. SO WE WANT TO BE SURE WE'RE PROVIDING A GOOD LEVEL OF CUSTOMER SERVICE. UM, SAME THING WITH PROBLEM SOLVING. UH, WE WANT OUR, WE ENCOURAGE OFFICERS TO BE INNOVATIVE AND, AND TAKE INITIATIVE, UH, TO SOLVE PROBLEMS. BUT AGAIN, WHEN, WHEN YOU HAVE THESE CALLS BACK UP, UM, AND A MAJORITY OF YOUR TIME IS SPENT ON CALL, THERE'S, THERE'S SOME PRESSURE, UH, INTERNALLY ON OFFICERS TO MOVE, MOVE ON TO GET HANDLE THE NEXT CALL. AND SO IT, UH, HAVING MORE TIME WILL, UH, IMPROVE PROBLEM SOLVING. AND ON THAT NOTE, AS FAR AS THE PRESSURE OR THE PUSH TO, TO CONTINUE TO MOVE TO RESPOND, I THINK IT'LL ALSO, UM, SUPPORT OFFICER WELLNESS. THAT PRESSURE CAN BE KIND OF LOOMING OVER YOU AT TIMES WHEN YOU'RE OUT IN THE FIELD WORKING. SO, UH, HAVING, HAVING A LITTLE MORE TIME, DISCRETIONARY TIME TO, UH, SPEND ON YOUR CALLS WOULD, WOULD, WOULD ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT PRESSURE, I THINK. SO THE RECOMMENDATION, UH, BASED ON OUR CONSULTANTS METHODOLOGY AND ANALYSIS, 360 NEW OFFICERS NEEDED FOR PATROL TO ACHIEVE THE 40% ON-CALL AND 60%, UH, TIME OFF CALL OVER THE NEXT THREE TO FIVE YEARS. RECOMMENDATION FOR F Y 24 IS 100 NEW OFFICERS, UH, THAT WILL INCLUDE, UH, 50 THAT WILL, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO APPLY FOR A COPS GRANT TO HOPEFULLY, UH, WE'LL GET AWARDED THAT AND ASSIST IN SOME OF THAT FUNDING, BUT WE'LL APPLY FOR 50 OFFICERS THROUGH THE COPS GRANT AND 100 TOTAL. UH, YOU KNOW, OUR, UNFORTUNATELY, OUR CONSULTANT, UM, PASSED IN, IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS. SO WE'LL LOOK TO, UH, THIS ONLY ENCOMPASSES THE PATROL ANALYSIS AND WE'LL LOOK TO RETAIN A NEW CONSULTANT TO REVIEW STAFFING INEFFICIENCIES IN OUR INVESTIGATIVE UNITS. SO OUR AUTHORIZED POLICE OFFICER POSITIONS, WE'VE ADDED 136 POSITIONS OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS. UM, AND THAT BRINGS US TO A AUTHORIZED COUNT OF 2,581. CURRENTLY AT THIS TIME, UH, WE HAVE 2,403 FILLED, 104, UH, FILLED IN THE ACADEMY AS CADETS AND 74 VACANCIES. FOR CONTEXT ON THAT, WE DID SOME [01:00:01] ANALYSIS TO LOOK HISTORICALLY WHAT OUR HIGHEST VACANCY RATE WAS. AND BACK IN 2016, IT WAS 148 WAS OUR HIGHEST LEVEL OF VACANCY. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE CONTINUING TO MAKE, UH, STRIDES IN, IN, IN, UH, FILLING UP THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. WE'LL BE STARTING A CADET CLASS HERE ON APRIL 17TH, AND IT SHOULD BE ROUGHLY ABOUT 60 CADETS, AND THAT'LL CUT INTO THOSE 74 VACANCIES AND HAVE IT DOWN UNDER 20 AT THAT TIME. AND, UH, ANOTHER TWO CLASSES ALSO SCHEDULED FOR THE REST OF THE FISCAL YEAR AFTER THAT APRIL CLASS. SO THE PRIORITY FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, OBVIOUSLY IT'S CRIME PREVENTION. WE, WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO, UH, FOCUS OUR EFFORTS TO BRING, BRING CRIME, CRIME DOWN. WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE OUR WORK WITH U T S A, OUR, UH, CRIME PREVENTION EFFORTS TO ENSURE THEY'RE DATA DRIVEN AND, AND WE'RE BEING EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE IN THOSE, UH, EFFORTS. COMMUNITY SAFETY FUNDING, YOU'LL, YOU'LL HEAR CHIEF MCMANUS SAY SAN ANTONIO IS A SAFE CITY, AND HE IS, RIGHT. IT IS. I'VE BEEN HERE PRETTY MUCH ALL MY LIFE. IT'S A GOOD PLACE TO LIVE AND WORK. UM, AND SO WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO ACHIEVE THAT. AND THEN ALSO DOWNTOWN VISIBILITY ENFORCEMENT. YOU KNOW, DOWNTOWN HAS SOME UNIQUE CHARACTERISTICS, OBVIOUSLY A TOURISM HUB AND OTHER THINGS. SO WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO BE EFFECTIVE AND WE, UH, CREATE VISIBILITY AND ENFORCEMENT IN THE, UH, DOWNTOWN AREA. AND WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND IF I UNDERSTOOD THE CITY MANAGER, I THINK QUESTION IN DISCUSSION TIME. THANK YOU. GREAT, THANK YOU CHIEF. UM, ANY COMMENTS ON THE LAST THREE PRESENTATIONS, ERIC, BEFORE WE GO INTO DISCUSSION? OKAY, UH, I'LL GO AHEAD AND START, AND IF FOLKS WANNA QUEUE UP, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A COUPLE ROUNDS, UH, JUST ON THE LAST THREE PRESENTATIONS. UM, LET ME ASK YOU FIRST, UH, ERIC OR OR MARIA ON THE GOOD NEIGHBOR PROGRAM. UM, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS GONNA INVOLVE A LOT OF SHARING OF DATA BETWEEN DEPARTMENTS, AND I UNDERSTAND I SAW THE, THE ROSTER OF THE GOOD NEIGHBOR TASK FORCE. UH, WHAT LEVEL OF DATA DISCLOSURE AND TRANSPARENCY COULD WE EXPECT, UH, IN THIS PROCESS FOR THE PUBLIC THAT'S INTERESTED AND PERHAPS THERE'S, THEY'RE ON THE STREET WITH A BAD NEIGHBOR. UM, WHAT WILL THEY EXPECT IN TERMS OF THE COMMUNICATION AND ONGOING, UH, WORK IN THE GOOD NEIGHBOR TASK FORCE TO, TO KNOW THAT THEIR PROBLEMS ARE BEING ADDRESSED? UM, YES, MAYOR. SO ONE OF THE, THE THINGS THAT WE WILL DO IS, UH, REPORTING TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE AS WE MAKE PROGRESS ON THE PROGRAM, UH, YOU, WE IDENTIFY THE ADDRESSES ON THE MAP AND, UH, AND WE'LL BE IN COMMUNICATION WITH THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING, UH, TO, UH, TREAT THOSE, UM, ADDRESSES THAT, THAT NEED ASSISTANCE, EITHER CONNECTION TO SERVICES OR ENFORCEMENT. MARIN, I'LL JUST ADD THAT. UM, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'LL HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT, I MEAN, THE, THE, THE SCREENSHOT YOU SAW IN MARIA'S PRESENTATION IS FROM A, A DATA TOOL THAT WE HAVE. AND SO ULTIMATELY BE ABLE TO PUT THAT OUT THERE FOR THE PUBLIC. UM, BUT I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE A LITTLE BIT CAREFUL ON THE FRONT END. AND I'M THINKING ABOUT THINGS LIKE HIPAA. YOU SAW THAT A LOT OF OUR TOP, UH, CALLS NOW AS WE ENTER THIS PROGRAM, UM, ARE MENTAL HEALTH RELATED. AND SO BEING ABLE TO BE SENSITIVE TO THAT, TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, I'M, I'M, I'D BE LESS CONCERNED IF IT WAS, UM, A LOT OF 3 1 1 CALLS ABOUT CODE COMPLIANCE OR EVEN, EVEN 9 1 1 CALLS. THE MENTAL HEALTH CALL ASPECT OF THAT, I THINK WE'LL HAVE TO BE CAREFUL, BUT ULTIMATELY THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'LL WANNA PUSH OUT AND, AND, AND REALLY HAVE FOLKS BE ABLE TO DO THEIR OWN DATA, PULL ON TIMING. UM, WITH THE THREE AND A HALF MILLION CALLS OF SERVICE THAT WE HAVE PER YEAR, UH, FOR FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THEIR STREET, ULTIMATELY WOULD BE A GOOD GOAL FOR US TO HAVE. OKAY. AND, AND AS I UNDERSTAND FROM THE PRESENTATION, MARIA, THE PILOT BEGINS ESSENTIALLY IN JUNE. UH, AND THAT'LL BE THE LIST OF 20 OR SO RESIDENCES THAT WILL FIRST BE PART OF THE, THE TARGET LIST, I GUESS YOU COULD CALL IT. UH, AND AS EACH OF THOSE ARE RESOLVED, WE'RE GONNA ADD TO THE LIST, GO DOWN THE LIST, IS THAT THE INTENT? CORRECT. AND ONE, UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, MAYOR, WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS FOR THOSE ADDRESSES THAT THEY HAVE A HIGH NUMBER OF MENTAL HEALTH RELATED CALLS. UH, OUR INTENT IS TO START AS EARLY AS NEXT WEEK, UH, CONNECTING THEM, UH, WITH OUR SA CORE TEAM, UH, OR WITH OUR MENTAL HEALTH UNIT TO PROVIDING SOME ASSISTANCE. OKAY. GREAT. UH, AND I, I ASSUME WE'LL GET SMARTER AS EACH OF, AS THE MONTHS GO ON IN TERMS OF AN ANALYZING THE DATA, IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, MAYBE NOT AS HIGH A NUMBER OF CALLS, BUT WE'VE GOT A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF MENTAL HEALTH CALLS OR PUBLIC SAFETY RELATED CALLS TO, TO ANIMALS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE CAN MOVE THOSE PRIORITIES [01:05:01] AROUND, UH, DEPENDING ON PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES. THAT IS CORRECT. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE SAW, MAYOR, AS WE ANALYZE ALL THESE ADDRESSES, THE TOP 20 HAD FROM THE HEIGHT 800, AND THE ADDRESS NUMBER 20 HAD ABOUT 59 CALLS. SO AFTER THAT, THE CALLS THAT WE HAVE HAVE MUCH LESS FREQUENCY. SO WE ANTICIPATE THE CALLS WILL BE A COMBINATION TO YOUR POINT OF, UH, CODE ENFORCEMENT CALLS, ANIMAL RELATED CALLS. SO OUR GOAL IS TO TRY TO ADDRESS MOST OF THE MENTAL HEALTH CALLS THAT HAD A HIGH FREQUENCY BEFORE JUNE ONE. SO WHEN WE START IN JUNE ONE, WE, WE CAN START ADDRESSING CODE AND ANIMAL CARE AS WELL. WE, WE NEED TO KIND OF TRIAGE THOSE. YEAH, RIGHT. THOSE ARE, YEAH. OKAY. AND YOU'LL REPORT AT SOME INTERVAL TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE ON HOW THIS WHOLE PROGRAM IS GOING. AND, AND AS WE GET INTO A STRIDE AND IT'S BEYOND PILOT, WE'LL DO THE SAME THING. YES. AND I THINK THE FIRST REPORT WILL BE AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS. OKAY. 'CAUSE WE WOULD BE RECOMMENDING, IF NEEDED, WORKING WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE THAT WE NEED AN ORDINANCE FOR THE PROGRAM, AND WE'LL ALSO REPORT ON WHAT WE HAVE DONE UP TO THAT POINT. GREAT. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU MARIA. UH, LORI, JUST A COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS. UM, RELATED TO THE HOMELESSNESS STRATEGIC PLAN, I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT, UH, THE INITIAL APPROACH IS MAKE SURE MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE A COORDINATED SYSTEM AND, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE SEE NEWS FROM ALL KINDS OF CITIES THAT HAVE VARIOUS LEVEL OF PRACTICES, AND, AND SOME OF THOSE ARE BEST PRACTICES AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD MODEL THE BEST PRACTICES. BUT I, I THINK INVARIABLY WHEN WE LOOK AT THOSE, THE NEWS BEING MADE ABOUT BEST PRACTICES, IT'S STUFF ALREADY BEING IMPLEMENTED IN SAN ANTONIO. SO VERY HAPPY TO SEE THAT. WITH REGARD TO LOW BARRIER SHELTER, LOW BARRIER SHELTERS, UH, CAN YOU DESCRIBE HOW THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN, SAY, PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING? MM-HMM. AND WHERE WE ARE WITH THE CAPACITY BUILDING AND THE, AND THE LOW BARRIER SHELTERS, I'M GONNA ASK ISHA BAKER OKAY. WITH SAM MINISTRIES TO COME AND SPEAK TO THAT. GREAT. SHE IS THE EXPERT IN ADMINISTERING AND MANAGING OUR LOW BARRIER SHELTER. I KNOW. SHE IS . THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. UH, SAM MINISTRY'S LOW BARRIER SHELTER OPTION REQUIRES, UH, VERY LITTLE OF THE CLIENTS THAT WE'RE SERVING IN THAT SPACE. UM, EACH INDIVIDUAL HAS THEIR OWN SEPARATE ROOM, UM, THAT THEY'RE UTILIZING, ALLOWING THEM THE DI DIGNITY AND COMPASSION OF SHOWERING AND, AND ENJOYING MEALS IN THEIR OWN PERSONAL AND PRIVATE SPACE. BUT THE LOW BARRIER CONCEPT IS ONE THAT DOESN'T KICK UP AN INDIVIDUAL OFF CAMPUS IF THEY ARE ACTIVELY USING, UM, SUBSTANCES OR HAVE, UM, AN ALCOHOL ABUSE DISORDER. THE LOGIC BEHIND THAT IS THAT OUR CASE MANAGEMENT IS SO INTENSIVE THAT THOSE INDIVIDUALS WILL WANT TO ENGAGE IN SUBSTANCE ABUSE TREATMENT, AND WE CAN HELP THEM GET TO LONG-TERM RECOVERY, RATHER THAN SAYING, HERE'S DETOX AND NOW MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT AN ALTERNATIVE RESOLUTION. AND SO THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF BARRIERS THAT MIGHT PROHIBIT SOMEONE, UM, ON THE CAMPUS AT HAVEN FOR HOPE, IF YOU'RE ACTIVELY USING, UM, IF YOU ARE A COUPLE WHO IDENTIFIES AS A COUPLE BUT IS NOT MARRIED, UM, THOSE INDIVIDUALS CANNOT STAY TOGETHER ON THE CAMPUS AT HAVEN FOR HOPE. THAT'S ONE OF, ONE OF THEIR, THEIR RULES. UM, ALSO, UH, WE HAVE, UM, WHAT WE CALL AMNESTY BOXES. SO IF YOU COME TO OUR CAMPUS, UH, FOR OUR SHELTER, YOU'RE ABLE TO LOCK UP YOUR KNIFE OR WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE IN AN AMNESTY BOX WITHOUT FEAR OF RETRIBUTION FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT. UM, THAT ALLOWS THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY GO BACK OUT ONTO THE STREET, UM, THEY ARE NOT ALL SUCCESSFUL, BUT ALLOWS THEM THAT SENSE OF SAFETY AND COMFORT AS WELL. OKAY. GREAT. AND THANK YOU NIKISHA AND, AND TO ALL OF THE PARTNERS IN SARAH, UH, REALLY DOING AN INCREDIBLE JOB. UH, I'M GLAD WE HAVE A COORDINATED STRATEGY, BUT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM IS OVERWORKED. UH, AND, BUT DOING A GREAT JOB EVERY DAY. SO TO ALL THE PARTNERS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR WORK. UM, LORI, LET ME ASK YOU THE, THE CRITICAL QUESTION FOR US AS WE GO INTO GOAL SETTING, THEN. THERE'S A LOT IN THE PIPELINE. PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, I HEARD FROM NIKISHA. WE'VE GOT, UH, YOU KNOW, WORK TO INCREASE OUR OUTREACH RESPONSE MM-HMM. , UM, WHAT SHOULD OUR BUDGET PRIORITY BE? MM-HMM. , UH, WHERE DO WE NEED TO, TO BOLSTER, UH, THE PIPELINE MM-HMM. , SO TO SPEAK, KNOWING THAT WE'VE GOT ALL THESE UNITS COMING, COMING ONLINE. WE'RE, WE'RE ABOUT TO DO CONTRACTS NEXT WEEK. WHERE ARE WE? WHERE'S THE GAP? UM, AND, AND IN PARTICULAR, I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHERE WE ARE WITH HARM REDUCTION, UH, AND WHERE WE, BECAUSE THAT WAS MENTIONED SPECIFICALLY ABOUT WE COULD USE MORE RESOURCES THERE. I KNOW THE INCREDIBLE WORK THAT CORONE IS DOING. SO JUST BROADLY, WHERE SHOULD WE BE PAYING ATTENTION? UM, WITH REGARDS TO HOUSING PRODUCTION, INCLUDING P S H? UM, WE HAVE ENOUGH FUNDING IN THE BOND, UM, TO HELP US MEET THAT GOAL. WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE ANOTHER ROUND COMING, UM, AND NEXT MOST LIKELY WILL BE EARLY FALL. AND THEN WE'LL ISSUE THAT. UM, WE'RE A THIRD OF A WAY TO OUR GOAL ALREADY, [01:10:01] AND WE'RE IN YEAR TWO. UM, THE ONE AREA THAT I WOULD, UM, FOCUS MORE ON IS OUR OUTREACH, UM, TEAM AND THEIR NEEDS. AND SO WE ARE GONNA HAVE A FEW REQUESTS, UM, IN THE, UH, FISCAL YEAR 24 BUDGET RELATED TO CREATING A PLATFORM FOR THEM TO HELP WITH THEIR RESOURCE DIRECTION IN THE FIELD. SO INSTEAD OF THEM HAVING TO GO THROUGH, YOU KNOW, A NOTEBOOK LOOKING FOR EVERYTHING AND LOOKING FOR THE NUMBERS, THEY HAVE SOMETHING ONLINE THAT THEY CAN LOOK AT, AND THEY CAN TAP A BUTTON AND THEY CAN GET THAT RESOURCE. AND SO THERE WILL BE SOME FUNDING REQUESTS FOR TECHNOLOGY IMPROVEMENTS. THERE'LL ALSO BE SOME FUNDING REQUESTS, SMALL AMOUNT FOR, FOR TRAINING AND ONBOARDING. UM, AND WE KNOW THAT WE ARE GOING TO NEED AN ADDITIONAL, UM, SUPPORT FOR ENCAMPMENT ABATEMENTS. AND SO THOSE ARE THE AREAS THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED AS OUR NEEDS FOR THE BUDGET. BUT IN TERMS OF HOUSING PRODUCTION, UM, WE FEEL THAT THE FISCAL YEAR, 2022, WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO WITH THE, THE EXISTING FUNDING THAT WE HAD, AND THEN GOING AND USING THE BOND FUNDING, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO MAKE A LOT OF PROGRESS. OKAY. I SEE MARK WAITING IN THE WINGS TO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. COUNCIL MARK, CHIEF HOUSING OFFICER, MAYOR. JUST WANTED TO ALSO LET YOU KNOW, OUR RECENT VISIT TO DC WAS VERY PRODUCTIVE IN TERMS OF CONVERSATIONS WE'RE HAVING WITH HUD, SPECIFICALLY AROUND PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. I THINK THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A STRATEGY IN PLACE AND THAT OUR LOCAL COMMUNITIES ARE ALREADY INVESTING, I THINK IS, UM, HAS A REAL, THAT, THAT HAS REAL INTEREST FOR THEM. AND SO WE'RE CONTINUING TO DEVELOP OUT THOSE RELATIONSHIPS. UH, I THINK I'LL HAVE ANOTHER VISIT THERE TO JUST FIGURE OUT WHAT IS THE STRATEGY BEYOND PLATITUDES INTO DRAWING DOLLARS DOWN. YEAH. BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE WANT TO DO SPECIFICALLY, NOT ONLY IN P S H, BUT WHAT WE'RE DOING ALSO IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING. DOES THAT INCLUDE THE COUNTY? TO A DEGREE. TO A DEGREE. I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN HAVING SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM. I THINK THEY'RE STILL IN THEIR FIRST A HUNDRED DAYS OF REORGANIZATION RIGHT NOW, MAYOR. BUT, UM, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE PARTICIPATING IN THE R F P FOR P SS H AND I THINK THAT'S A BIG FIRST STEP. YEAH. NO, I'M, I'M VERY THANKFUL FOR THAT. THE ONE THING I'M GETTING AT THOUGH, AND, AND THIS IS NOT JUST A SOUTH SIDE ISSUE, BUT WE NEED MENTAL HEALTH BED CAPACITY. AND THAT'S GONNA FALL, UH, LARGELY ON THE COUNTY. SO WE SHOULD BE CO WE HAVE A COORDINATED SYSTEM, BUT LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY AND OUR STATE, UH, UH, DELEGATION TO LET THEM KNOW WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA NEED, IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE PIPELINE AND AND SYSTEM HERE, WE'RE GONNA NEED THEM TO, TO BEAR, UH, A BIT OF THE BURDEN ON THAT, ON THAT PART OF IT. AND THAT'S, TO ME, WHEN I HEAR ABOUT THE CHALLENGES WE HAVE DOWNTOWN, ELSEWHERE, UH, THAT'S A GLARING ISSUE FOR US. YEAH. I THINK THE SECRET SAUCE IS THE SERVICES MAYOR TO, TO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND I THINK OUR, OUR ABILITY TO DO A COORDINATED SYSTEM OF SERVICE CARE. YEAH. I MEAN, WE CAN BUILD IT OUT, BUT THE SERVICES HAVE TO BE IN PLACE LONG TERM. AND I THINK THOSE DISCUSSIONS ARE ALREADY UNDERWAY. GREAT. OKAY. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. UM, MAYOR, ON THE HARMLESS ON THE HARM REDUCTION PROGRAM, WE DO HAVE AN R F P OUT AND SPECIFIC TO HARM REDUCTION AND IT HAS $600,000 FOR IMPROVEMENTS OR ENHANCEMENTS. OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU, LORI. LASTLY, UM, CHIEF AND CHIEF, UM, JUST A COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS ON, UM, THE STAFFING LEVEL. SO I, I GET IT. UM, IF WE WANT TO GET TO FROM 40% TO 60% PROACTIVE, WHICH IF THAT IS THE PRACTICE, UM, THAT'S RECOMMENDED, UM, IT'S GONNA BE A PHASED IN APPROACH AND, AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT A HUNDRED CONTINGENT INCREASE FOR PATROL AND F Y, UM, 24, UM, WHERE WE STAY WITHIN OUR ADOPTED FUNDING POLICY PRIORITIES IN TERMS OF KEEPING A BALANCE BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST EMERGENCY RESPONSE, BUT ALSO UPSTREAM INVESTMENTS IN COMMUNITY. YES, MAYOR. OKAY. SO HERE'S THE QUESTION. I, THIS IS PROBABLY FOR YOU THEN, ERIC. WE'VE GOT FIF, UH, 50 THAT ARE GONNA BE IN THE GENERAL FUND 50 THAT WE'RE PROBABLY COUNTING ON FROM A COPS GRANT. WE KNOW THE COPS GRANT IS ON AGAIN, OFF AGAIN, WHAT'S THE PLAN IF WE DON'T, I'M GONNA STEAL PERRY'S QUESTION HERE. WHAT'S THE PLAN IF WE DON'T GET THE COPS GRANT? WELL, LAST YEAR WE APPLIED FOR 50 AND WE DIDN'T GET 50, AND WE SET ASIDE MONEY. AND, AND WE DID THAT DELIBERATELY AS WE WENT THROUGH THE PROPOSED BUDGET, WE SAID, WHETHER WE GET IT OR NOT. AND I THINK WE FOUND OUT RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING OF SEPTEMBER, YOU GUYS HADN'T ADOPTED THE BUDGET YET. THE, THE POLICY DISCUSSION WAS, GO AHEAD, LET'S ADD 50. AND WE, WE [01:15:01] MOVED FUNDING AROUND TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT BEING THE SIMILAR CONVERSATION THIS SUMMER. UM, AND, AND, AND I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, BACK TO RELATE. SO THAT'S, THAT'S ANSWER NUMBER TO YOUR NUMBER TWO QUESTION. YEAH. NUMBER NUMBER ONE, LET ME REINFORCE WHAT MARIA JUST SAID. OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S A BALANCE HERE. WE HAVE A FINANCIAL POLICY. WE'RE AT A LOW POINT, UH, OF THAT POLICY RIGHT NOW WITH THIS YEAR'S BUDGET. LOW POINT IN TERMS OF THE PERCENTAGE FUNDING OF PUBLIC SAFETY. YES, SIR. OKAY. UM, AND WE'LL NEED TO MAINTAIN IT, BUT THAT GOES INTO THE WHOLE CAKE THAT NEEDS TO GET BAKED OVER THE SUMMER. RIGHT. WHICH, WHICH FRANKLY STARTS NEXT WEEK AS YOU GUYS TALK ABOUT THE, THE, THE GENERAL PRIORITIES AND THE DIRECTION OF THE, OF THE COUNCIL. UM, BUT ULTIMATELY WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO BALANCE THOSE THINGS TO BE ABLE TO, TO, UM, TO MOVE FORWARD AND ADDRESS THE COMMUNITY'S NEEDS AND THE COUNCIL'S COMPLETE PRIORITIES. I WILL TELL YOU, UM, AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF THE, THE, THE BACKWARD, THE, THE BACK OF THE HOUSE CONVERSATION THAT, THAT WE'RE HAVING. WE HAD, WE HAD BIG ACADEMY CLASSES, POLICE ACADEMY CLASSES IN 88, 89, 98, 87, 88, 89. UM, THEN THERE WAS A LULL. SO, SO REMEMBER, AND COUNCILMAN PERRY, COUNCILMAN COURAGE, WE REMEMBER THAT THE UNION AT THE TIME WAS TALKING ABOUT ALL THE RETIREMENTS WE WERE GONNA HAVE. 'CAUSE ALL THOSE OFFICERS WERE HITTING ABOUT 30 YEARS FOR OVER THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS. KNOCK ON WOOD, WE'RE AT A LITTLE BIT OF A LULL, AND WE WILL BE HITTING A HIGH POINT OF HIRING THAT THE, THAT THE CITY UNDERTOOK IN 94, OR I'M SORRY, 95, 96, 97. SO, UH, IT MAY BE OPERATIONALLY WE'RE THINKING WE MAY WANT TO CRANK MORE TO BE ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH ATTRITION AND GROWTH AND NOT PUT THAT ON THE BACK END WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO PICK UP, WHEN, WHEN OFFICERS ARE LEAVING AT THAT 30 YEAR MARK. SO OPERATIONALLY, WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO HIT THAT STRIDE AS WELL. OKAY. UM, MY EXPECTATION WOULD BE IF WE ARE, IF WE ARE SAYING THAT WE NEED TO BE AT 60% PROACTIVE POLICING, AND IT'S GONNA TAKE ANOTHER 360 POSITIONS OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS THAT WE HIT THAT MARK. SO HOWEVER WE DEVELOP THE PO THE FUNDING PRIORITIES, KNOWING THAT WE'RE GONNA STAY WITHIN OUR 66% THRESHOLD OR STAY STRUCTURALLY BALANCED, HOWEVER WE DO THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME CONTINGENCY PLANS. UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WILL WE DO IF WE GET FUNDING ONE YEAR AND NOT ANOTHER, ET CETERA. SO, UM, AND THAT GETS TO ANOTHER QUESTION. THIS IS PROBABLY MORE FOR CHIEF. UM, YOU MENTIONED THE VACANCY. WE HAVE 73 VACANCIES AS OF RIGHT NOW. I KNOW AT ONE POINT WE HAD A COUPLE HUNDRED, UH, WE GOT DOWN TO NEGATIVE, WE WERE OVERFILLED. WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS THE HEALTHY VACANCY RATE, UH, FOR SS A P D OR FOR POLICE DEPARTMENTS GENERALLY? WELL, I THINK FOR US STRATEGICALLY, AS WE LOOK TO, UM, CONTINUE TO STAFF UP AN ADD, I, I THINK OVER HIRING OR COMING UP PLUSING UP AS YOU, AS YOU DESCRIBED IT, UH, TO SOME DEGREE IS, IS THE WISE THING TO DO. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES ABOUT A LITTLE OVER 11 MONTHS TO, TO START AN OFFICER BEFORE THEY'RE OUT ON THE STREET BY THEMSELVES. SO IT'S NOT A QUICK TURNAROUND. SO I THINK, UM, CONTINUING TO, UM, FILL THOSE CLASSES WHERE WE STAY PRETTY MUCH AT, AT BASELINE IS WHAT MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE. YEAH. AND I, IT, IT, IT REALLY GOES IN LINE WITH THE KIND OF THE, THE, THE, THE, THE MODE WE'VE BEEN OPERATING UNDER FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS. WE WANT TO BE AT ZERO OR OVER. AND, AND THE BOB, THE, THE NUMBERS THAT BOBBY SHOWED YOU, WE WERE AT 70 SOME ODD VACANCIES AS OF TODAY. WE GOT A CLASS OF 60 STARTING AT THE END OF THIS MONTH. WE'LL BE AT 14. WE HAVE ANOTHER TWO CLASSES, ONE THIS SUMMER AND ONE IN SEPTEMBER. IT, UM, YOU KNOW, OPERATIONALLY, IT WAS THE SAME CONVERSATION WE HAD WITH ACOS THE OTHER DAY. UH, ANIMAL CARE OFFICERS, WE'RE TRYING TO, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PLAN FOR BUDGET AND OPERATIONALLY CAN WITHSTAND THAT TURNOVER. WE'RE NATURALLY GONNA HAVE. AND, AND, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE BUDGETING, IF THE COUNCILS HAVE PROVEN TO BUDGET FOR A CERTAIN NUMBER OF OFFICERS, WE SHOULD DO OUR BEST TO GET RIGHT ABOVE IT FROM, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. OKAY, GREAT. WELL, I, I THINK WE'RE IN A GOOD POSITION IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO MANAGE, UM, THE BUDGET. ALSO MANAGED EXPECTATIONS. I MEAN, WE HAD CHALLENGES WHEN I CAME IN HERE, UH, BOTH IN TERMS OF STRUCTURAL BALANCE TO WHAT WE WERE SPENDING. WE HAD ISSUES RELATED TO ACCOUNTABILITY. IN MY VIEW, WE'VE, WE'VE ADDRESSED THOSE FROM A STRUCTURAL STANDPOINT. NOW WE CAN GROW THE DEPARTMENT IN THE WAY THAT BEST PRACTICES WOULD RECOMMEND. SO THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING ON THE 360 AND WHATEVER, UH, THE ADDITIONAL ANALYSIS FROM U T S A WILL SHOW WE SHOULD BE DOING, UH, LET'S TRY TO SCHEDULE THAT AND MAKE IT A PRIORITY. SO, THANK YOU GUYS. APPRECIATE IT. LET'S, UH, CONTINUE DISCUSSION NOW. UH, WE'LL GO TO COUNCIL MEMBER UDE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR THE [01:20:01] PRESENTATIONS. THE POLICY FRAMEWORKS WE'RE DISCUSSING TODAY ARE, UM, OBVIOUSLY VERY VITAL TO THE FUTURE OF OUR CITY. THROUGHOUT, UH, THE LAST FEW YEARS, I'VE SPOKEN WITH MANY RESIDENTS THROUGHOUT SAN ANTONIO ABOUT THE DESIRE FOR INCREASED PUBLIC SAFETY AND POLICE, AND AN IN-DEPTH PLAN FOR OUR UNSHELTERED. UM, WE ALL WANT A BETTER FUTURE FOR SAN ANTONIO. THIS DISCUSSION, UH, IS WHERE WE MAKE THAT HAPPEN. UM, I WANNA TALK FIRST ABOUT THE HOMELESS STRATEGIC PLAN UPDATE. UM, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THE INDIVIDUALS THAT NEED HELP. UM, WE TALK A LOT ABOUT NUMBERS HERE, AND THAT'S IMPORTANT. WHEN WE'RE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY THOUGH, WE TALK ABOUT, UM, FOSTER YOUTH. WE TALK ABOUT VETERANS, VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. UM, PEOPLE WITH, UH, MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, SENIORS, DISABLED, THOSE ARE COMM, THOSE COMMUNITIES ARE MORE APTT TO FACE, UM, BEING HOUSELESS. AND OF COURSE, I WANNA SEE OUR FUNDING GEARED TOWARDS THESE GROUPS, ESPECIALLY, ESPECIALLY, UM, OUR FOSTER YOUTH. THERE WAS ALSO A CITY STUDY DONE IN 2019, I THINK, ON OUR VACANT HOUSING STOCK. HAS THAT BEEN UPDATED? DO WE KNOW? THAT WAS A STUDY DONE THROUGH O H P ON THE, THE NUMBER OF PRE 1960 HOMES. AND THAT WAS DONE BY AN OUTSIDE COUNSEL. I DON'T HAVE AN UPDATE ON THAT RIGHT NOW, AND I'M NOT SURE IF IT WILL BE UPDATED. OKAY. BUT I'LL GET BACK TO YOU ON WHAT OTHER STUDIES WERE DOING FOR HOUSING. OKAY. THERE'S, UM, THERE'S, I'VE HEARD OF PROGRAMS WHERE VACANT HOUSES WERE IDENTIFIED RE REHAB REHABILITATED, AND USED AS, UH, EXTREMELY AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPTIONS. I'D LIKE TO SEE A SIMILAR PROGRAM RUN HERE, AND I'M, I'M WORKING, UM, WITH, UM, ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER ON, ON SEEING THAT HAPPEN. SO OF COURSE I WANNA WORK ON THAT WITH, WITH YOU GUYS AND GET YOUR INPUT. UM, BUT VERY BRIEFLY, I WANNA TELL YOU, THERE'S, UH, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO NOW, I ATTENDED WITH THE CITY. UM, FIRST LET ME SAY THIS. THERE'S, UH, THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE, UM, REPORT. I THINK THAT, AND I THANK YOU FOR ALL THE PARTNERS THAT ARE DOING THEIR WORK. I THINK THAT WE ARE, UM, THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO ARE HOUSELESS, WE'RE REALLY DOING A LOT OF WORK FOR, WE'RE GETTING THEM, UM, INTO SHELTERED ENVIRONMENTS AND WHERE THEY'RE SAFE AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE GETTING HEALTHY. AND I THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK THAT ALL OF THE PARTNERS, AND OF COURSE, UM, YOU, LORI AND AND MEL HAVE DONE TO, TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION. THERE'S, UM, A FELLOW WHO WAS LIVING IN A DRAINAGE CULVERT IN MY, IN MY DISTRICT, AND HE WAS, UH, GIVEN WARNING AS WE DO, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO, WE NEED, THERE WAS A LOT OF COMPLAINTS. UM, IT WAS RIGHT BEHIND A, A, A STRIP MALL. AND, UH, HE WAS GIVEN WARNING TO GET HIS THINGS AND MOVE ON, OR COME WITH US AND GET SOME HELP. HE CHOSE NOT TO GET THAT HELP. UM, HIS NAME IS JOHN. THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD KNOWS HIM. UM, HE'S, UH, HE NOT GONE ANYWHERE. HE'S JUST KIND OF TRAVELING AROUND. HE'S ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT JUST WON'T, UM, DOESN'T WANNA COME IN, DOESN'T WANNA GET HELP, DOESN'T WANT TO BE PART OF ANY OF THESE PROGRAMS. THIS IS THE POPULATION RIGHT NOW. I'M, I'M VERY FOCUSED ON, I THINK THIS IS THE POPULATION THAT WON'T ENTER INTO ANY OF THESE PROGRAMS WHERE WE GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ON IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, SOMETIMES CAUSING DAMAGE TO PROPERTY OR OTHER THINGS. SO THAT, THAT'S WHERE I THINK WE, WE, AGAIN, WE'RE DOING AN INCREDIBLE JOB, BUT THERE'S THAT, THAT SUBSET, UH, THAT POPULATION THAT IS, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE CAN'T SEEM TO REACH THEM. SO IF WE CAN FOCUS, UM, ON THEM, I THINK THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF OUR, UH, OUR PROBLEMS ARE LYING AND, AND, AND, AND, AND MAINLY TRYING TO GET THEM INTO HELP. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT. SO I'D LIKE TO TALK WITH YOU MORE ABOUT THAT AT SOME POINT. UM, MOVING OVER TO, TO POLICING, UH, I'M NOT SURE I GOT THIS EXACT, UH, NUMBER FROM THE, THE SLIDES, BUT IS THERE AN IDEAL OFFICER TO POPULATION RATIO FOR A CITY? SO TYPICALLY WHAT YOU'LL SEE, MM-HMM. IS TWO OFFICERS PER 1000 POPULATION. BUT THAT'S THE PER PER CAPITA APPROACH. AND THIS WORKLOAD BASED APPROACH, I THINK IS MORE STRATEGIC AND MORE QUANTITATIVE AND, AND IN ITS DESIGN. AND SO THE, THE NUMBERS THAT YOU GAVE US TODAY ARE BASED MORE ON THE WORKLOAD APPROACH? CORRECT. OKAY. TOTALLY. AND, UM, I, I'M SORT OF CURIOUS, DO WE KNOW WHEN, WHEN DO WE HEAR ABOUT THE COPS GRANT? IS THAT, IS THAT ONCE A YEAR? WE APPLY AND IT HAS BEEN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS. COUNCIL GENERALLY THE APPLICATION'S DUE IN MAY OR JUNE. OKAY. AND WE USUALLY FIND OUT THAT FIRST WEEK IN SEPTEMBER. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UM, AND THEN, UH, I, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT, I THINK THE MAYOR TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT, BUT ARE WE PLANNING, I, I HEAR YOU TALKING ABOUT PR PLANNING FOR ATTRITION, UM, BUT, AND FILLING AND, AND KIND OF CATCHING UP WITH THE, THE GAP THAT WE HAVE. BUT ARE WE PLANNING FOR POLICE COVERAGE GIVEN THE RAPID POPULATION GROWTH THAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED? WE IN FAR WEST SAN ANTONIO FEEL IT EVERY DAY, BUT, UM, I, I, PRESUMABLY, AS OUR CITY GROWS, OUR, UH, IN POPULATION, OUR BUDGET IS GONNA GROW AS WELL. BUT ARE WE ACCOUNTING FOR THIS RAPID GROWTH? AND, UM, AND MY CONCERN IS THAT WE'RE GONNA ALWAYS, UM, BE PLAYING CATCH UP. YEAH. SO WE ARE ACCOUNTING FOR IT. THE, THE BEAUTY OF THIS, UH, METHODOLOGY, NOW THAT WE KIND OF HAVE IT AND UNDERSTAND IT, IS WE CAN REASSESS EACH YEAR. OKAY. AND, AND LOOK AT THAT. AND SO THAT [01:25:01] NOT ONLY WILL IT IS POP POPULATIONS BAKED INTO IT MM-HMM. BUT IT'S GONNA BE CALL VOLUME AND, AND, AND, AND HOW, HOW MUCH TIME OFFICERS ARE SPENDING ON CALL. SO THAT'S INHERENTLY A, A PART OF IT. OKAY. SO, UH, BASED ON GOING BACK TO BA BEING BASED ON WORKLOAD, BUT POPULATION NUMBERS ARE, ARE BAKED INTO IT. THEY ARE, YOU JUST SAID. RIGHT. OKAY. BECAUSE IT DRIVES CALLS FOR SERVICE. OKAY. SO IT'S PART OF THE, THE WORKLOAD. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. I SEE. UM, AND THEN GOING OVER TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE, THE GOOD NEIGHBOR PROGRAM, UH, I WAS INTERESTED IN, I THINK, I'M NOT SURE WHAT SLIDE IT WAS, BUT, UH, THE NUMBER 12, UH, THAT THERE, THERE, IF I HEARD CORRECTLY, THERE NEEDS TO BE 12 CALLS BEFORE, UM, ACTION IS, IS TAKEN. 12 SEEMS LIKE A LOT. I'M CURIOUS TO HOW WE CAME UP WITH THE, THE NUMBER OF 12 CALLS. AND WHILE YOU'RE ON IT, ARE YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT COUNTING, UM, LIKE HANGUPS AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT, RIGHT? ARE THEY, ARE THEY 12 SUBSTANTIVE CALLS? SO THE, THE ANSWER TO YOUR, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THE FIRST QUESTION, WHY 12? MM-HMM. , UH, WE THINK 12 CALLS OVER 90 DAYS IS TOO MANY CALLS TO ANY OF OUR SYSTEMS COMBINED. SO THAT'S WHY WE PICKED THAT NUMBER. AND WE ALSO FELT THAT IT WOULD BE MANAGEABLE FOR US TO BEGIN THERE. THIS IS JUST A PILOT PHASE, SO AS WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION, WE MAY REVISIT THAT 12, BUT THAT WE, THE TASK FORCE, WE FELT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. UM, IT INCLUDES ALL CALLS, INCLUDING, UM, THOSE THAT HANG UP. YEAH. UM, SO I WAS GETTING AT THAT. IT SEEMS 12 SEEMS LIKE TOO MANY. I THINK LIKE FIVE IS A LOT. BUT I, I DO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THAT THIS IS WHAT YOU COULD MANAGE, UM, IN A PILOT PROGRAM. AND SO YOU'LL REASSESS AND MAYBE, MAYBE WE'LL BE LOWERED. UM, I JUST THINK ABOUT LIKE THE COMMUNITY, UH, YOU KNOW, IF THERE WERE 11 CALLS AND THEN SOMETHING TRAGIC HAPPENS AND WE DIDN'T QUITE REACH THAT POINT. BUT, UM, IF THAT'S WHERE WE'RE STARTING, CORRECT? THAT IS, THAT IS CORRECT, COUNCILWOMAN. OKAY. UH, AND THEN FOR, FOR MINOR HOME REPAIRS, WELL, ACTUALLY, UM, IN THE FUTURE, ARE WE PLANNING TO EXPAND THE PROGRAM TO INCLUDE MULTI-FAMILY, UH, OR, UM, MULTI-UNIT PROPERTIES? WE MAY EVENTUALLY. OKAY. AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS. COUNCILWOMAN, UM, THROUGH THE CRIME, UM, STRATEGIC PLAN THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS DEPLOYING, APARTMENT COMPLEXES GENERATE QUITE A BIT OF CALLS MM-HMM. . SO WE ARE ADDRESSING, UM, THOSE PROPERTIES THROUGH THAT PLAN. RIGHT NOW, WE'RE FOCUSING ON THE NEIGHBORHOODS. AND AS WE GET MORE INFORMATION AND WE'LL BRIEF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE AND THE ENTIRE COUNCIL, WE MAY, UH, EXTEND IT TO MULTI-FAMILY. BUT FOR NOW, THE FOCUS IS JUST ON THE RESIDENTIAL. OKAY. WE ALSO WANTED TO RUN, UH, THE COUNCIL JUST APPROVED THE PROACTIVE INSPECTION PROGRAM. MM-HMM. . YEAH. SO AS WE LAUNCH THESE EFFORTS, THERE MAY BE SOME BLEED OVER. OKAY. BUT WE WANT TO, WE WANT TO GET 'EM LAUNCHED AND SEE WHAT THE IMPACT IS. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN FOR MINOR HOME REPAIRS, ARE THERE ANY EXISTING FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS FOR, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS? UM, IF THEIR, IF THEIR PROPERTIES AREN'T UP TO CODE, HOW WE CAN HELP THEM, UM, TO, TO COME UP TO CODE? I'M GONNA HAVE VERONICA, UH, FROM THANK YOU, MARIA. GOOD AFTERNOON. VERONICA GARCIA, DIRECTOR FOR NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICES. WE DO HAVE, UM, MINOR REPAIR ASSISTANCE RIGHT NOW, AND WE CAN DO EVERYTHING FROM VERY MINOR REPAIRS. USUALLY THOSE ARE IN THE FORMS OF PRESERVING THE HOUSING STRUCTURE. SO WE'VE DONE WATER HEATERS, WINDOWS, MAYBE FOUNDATION, IF THAT'S ALL THEY NEED. SO THAT GOES UP TO ABOUT $25,000 PER HOME FOR MORE SUBSTANTIAL REHAB. WE DO HAVE OUR MAJOR REHAB PROGRAM, AND THERE'S ALWAYS A LOT OF DEMAND FOR ALL OF THOSE PROGRAMS. ARE THERE ANY THAT ARE GONNA BE SPECIFICALLY TARGETED TOWARDS, UH, FOR CODE ISSUES? FOAM THAT ARE YEAH. YEAH, EXACTLY. SO WE, UH, WE CAN USE MINOR REPAIR FOR CODE ISSUES. OKAY. AND WE ARE IN THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW OF HIRING, UH, TWO STAFF MEMBERS, FULL-TIME STAFF MEMBERS THAT WILL WORK ALONGSIDE THE CODE OFFICERS. SO AS HOMEOWNERS FAMILY RECEIVES A NOTICE OF A POTENTIAL CODE VIOLATION, OUR TEAM WILL FOLLOW UP WITH THAT HOMEOWNER ABOUT IF THE MINOR REPAIR PROGRAM MIGHT BE A GOOD FIT FOR THEM. OKAY. AND WE FIT FOR THEM. OKAY. AND WE ARE LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN RESERVE SOME SLOTS IN OUR MINOR REPAIR PROGRAM EVERY YEAR, SPECIFICALLY FOR THOSE FAMILIES THAT HAVE CODE VIOLATIONS. IT'S JUST A FINANCIAL, UM, AND THEY INCOME QUALIFIED, OF COURSE. IT'S JUST A FINANCIAL RESTRAINT ON THEM, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY, UH, COMING INTO COMPLIANCE. OKAY. THAT WAS MY CONCERN, IS THAT WE, WE WE'RE OUT THERE ALREADY, UM, ARE WE LETTING THEM KNOW THAT THESE, THESE ARE PROGRAMS ARE AVAILABLE? YES. AND THEN HELPING THEM TO FIGURE OUT IF THEY QUALIFY. GREAT. AND THAT HAPPENS TODAY, BUT THESE ADDITIONAL STAFF MEMBERS, UM, WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT MORE DIRECTIVE. SO AS ASSISTANCE, THEY'LL HAVE A SOCIAL SERVICE BACKGROUND. SO, UM, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO REALLY HELP THE FAMILY NAVIGATE THROUGH THAT. OKAY. AND THEN ARE THERE GONNA BE, UM, BACK TO MARIA, ARE THERE ANY, ANY SCHEDULED, UH, PROGRESS CHECK-INS WITH THE CITY? UM, ARE, ARE WE, I MEAN, I WOULD RECOMMEND INCLUDING, UH, PROGRESS UPDATES, SCHEDULE REVIEWS, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, AND MAYBE REPORT BACK TO, UH, MAYBE THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, COMING BACK TO PUBLIC SAFETY AND TALKING TO US ABOUT THOSE UPDATES. YES. SO THE FIRST UPDATE WILL BE AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS. OKAY. UH, AS WE ANTICIPATE TO BE, UM, RECOMMENDING [01:30:01] POTENTIALLY AN ORDINANCE AND RESOURCES. SO THAT'LL BE THE FIRST UPDATE. AND THEN AFTER THAT, WE'LL HAVE REGULAR UPDATES TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. THANK YOU. PERFECT TIMING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN KABE. HDA. UM, I'M GONNA GO TO COUNCILMAN MCKEE RODRIGUEZ, ARE YOU READY? YES. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. YES, YES, YES. THANK YOU. UM, I'LL START OFF WITH THE HOMELESS STRATEGIC PLAN, UH, BECAUSE I RECENTLY TOOK A TOUR OF TOWNSMAN VILLAGE, AND I'M SUPER, SUPER EXCITED ABOUT IT. UM, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, I'M SURE WE'VE ALL BEEN TO A NUMBER OF, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETINGS IN THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS AND FEW YEARS. AND OFTEN WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HOUSELESSNESS, FOLKS SAY, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T, YOU KNOW, THESE PEOPLE DON'T WANT SERVICES OR HELP. SO THE IMPLICATION IS THAT WE JUST HAVE TO GET RID OF THEM AT WHATEVER COST, WHEN IN REALITY, I THINK WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT THERE ARE SERVICES THAT WILL MEET EACH PERSON'S UNIQUE NEEDS. HAVEN FOR HOPE WILL NOT BE FOR EVERYONE. SAM MINISTRIES MAY NOT BE FOR EVERYONE. A HOTEL MAY NOT BE FOR EVERYONE. AND SO, UM, AS MANY OPTIONS AS WE CAN PROVIDE, I THINK WE SHOULD. AND I THINK IT'S CLEAR THAT THE NEED FOR ALTERNATIVE IS, IS THERE, UM, I WOULD WONDER, UM, UH, I FILED A COUNCIL CONSIDERATION REQUEST REQUESTING NOTIFICATION, UM, FOR ABATEMENT FOR ENCAMPMENT ABATEMENTS. AND SO I'M HOPEFUL THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD, UH, UPDATE THE ENCAMPMENT ABATEMENT STRATEGIES TO INCLUDE A NOTIFICATION. AND THAT COULD HELP US GET A BETTER IDEA OF, YOU KNOW, HOW FREQUENTLY ARE ABATEMENTS HAPPENING IN CERTAIN AREAS, WHICH NEIGHBORHOODS ARE MOST IMPACTED, YOU KNOW, BASED ON DATA. UM, AND I WOULD PERSONALLY LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY ABATEMENTS WE'VE DONE THESE PAST THREE, THREE FISCAL YEARS, UH, JUST TO NAME A RANDOM NUMBER THREE YEARS, UM, WHERE THEY WERE LOCATED AND WHAT THEY ALL COST IN TOTALITY. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE GIVEN TO ME OR GIVEN TO US? YES. WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION AND CAN PROVIDE IT TO YOU. PERFECT. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED TO HEAR. UM, AND THEN THROUGHOUT THE, AND THEN I'M KIND OF GOING IN THE SAME, UH, IN THE SAME SORT OF DIRECTION, WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT TRUST, WE'RE ASKING, UH, A POPULATION OF FOLK WHO ARE WITHOUT SHELTER TO TRUST THE CITY. AND, YOU KNOW, SO I'M WONDERING WHAT ACTION IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN UPDATE ARE WE TAKING TO BUILD TRUST WITH THE HOUSELESS POPULATION? FOR INSTANCE, WHEN WE ABATE ENCAMPMENTS, THE CITY CREATES AN, UM, I'LL CALL IT AN ANTAGONISTIC EXPERIENCE WITH HOUSELESS FAMILIES. AND THIS IS A TRAUMATIC EXPERIENCE FOR MANY. THEN WE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY ALSO REACH OUT TO THEM AFTER THE FACT. AND IT'S, AND SOMETIME AND BEFORE AS WELL NOW. BUT WE REACH OUT TO THEM AFTER AN ABATEMENT AND AFTER THEY'VE EXPERIENCED THIS A NUMBER OF TIMES, AND THEN ATTEMPT TO ENROLL THEM IN ACTIVE CASE MANAGEMENT. AND I IMAGINE THAT MANY, AND I'VE BEEN TOLD, AND I'VE VISITED A FEW OF THE ENCAMPMENTS, MANY JUST DON'T TRUST THE CITY. AND SO HOW ARE WE ELIMINATE IT? OR HOW ARE WE WORKING TO ELIMINATE OR MINIMIZE THIS CONFLICT? COUNCILMAN, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. AND I'M GONNA HAVE BRIANNA DEJARA, WHO IS OUR HOMELESS SERVICES ADMINISTRATOR, ADDRESS THAT QUESTION FOR YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, BRIANNA JAGER. I'M, UH, HOMELESS SERVICES ADMINISTRATOR WITH D H S. UM, GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCILMAN. UH, IN TERMS OF THE QUESTION AS IT RELATES TO HOW WE NAVIGATE WHAT CAN BE A TRAUMATIC EXPERIENCE IN OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH FOLKS, UM, WE DO PARTNER WITH VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS TO PROVIDE NOTIFICATION PRIOR TO THE ABATEMENT. WE DO POST THAT 48 HOURS IN ADVANCE IN WRITING. AND THEN WE ALSO PROVIDE FOLLOW-UP CASE MANAGEMENT AFTERWARDS, AS YOU SAID. AND SO WITH THAT, WE'RE ABLE TO BUILD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE FOLKS THAT WE SERVE, AND THEN HELP THEM NAVIGATE THE SERVICES THAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR. AND SO, OFTENTIMES, FOLKS ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A HOUSING PROCESS, UM, SOMETIMES WHEN THESE TYPES OF ABATEMENTS HAPPEN. AND SO WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO LOCATE THEM. SO THOSE RELATIONSHIPS ARE REALLY IMPORTANT, WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS TO CREATE A MORE TRAUMA INFORMED APPROACH TO OUR ENCAMPMENT ABATEMENT EFFORTS. AND THAT'S WHERE WE'VE INVOLVED ALL OF OUR OUTREACH PARTNERS, UH, THROUGHOUT THE CITY TO INFORM THAT PROCESS AS WE UPDATE THE S O P. THANK YOU. AND I GUESS, UM, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS HAS BEEN ASKED ON THE DAIS, BUT IS IT POSSIBLE FOR SOMEONE TO EXPLAIN, UH, IN SOMEWHAT DETAIL WHAT HAPPENS DURING AN ABATEMENT? WHAT IS THE EXPERIENCE LIKE? WHO ALL IS INVOLVED? UM, WHAT IS THE, WHAT DOES IT FEEL LIKE? WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE? GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCILMAN MELODY WOOSLEY WITH HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT. AND SO AN ABATEMENT REALLY STARTS WITH IDENTIFICATIONS. SO WE EITHER, UM, LEARN ABOUT IT THROUGH A THREE ONE ONE CALL THROUGH OUR PARTNERS AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THROUGH A COUNSEL OFFICE, [01:35:01] OR IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT OUR FOLKS ARE SEEING. AND SO THAT'S THE FIRST. AND THEN THE SECOND PART IS TO ASSESS THAT ABATE THAT ENCAMPMENT. WHAT DOES THE ENCAMPMENT LOOK LIKE? ARE THEIR HEALTH AND SAFETY CONCERNS? IS THERE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY THAT'S A CONCERN. SO WE DO THAT ASSESSMENT, AND IF WE DETERMINE THAT THERE IS, UM, SERIOUS CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, THERE'S HEALTH AND SAFETY CONCERNS, WHICH COULD BE, UM, FIRES. IT COULD BE, UM, UH, HUMAN HAZARDS THAT COULD BE, UM, RODENT INFESTATION, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT COULD BE IMPACTING THE, THE PEOPLE IN THE ENCAMPMENT OR IN ADJOINING NEIGHBORHOOD. THEN WE'LL MAKE THE DECISION TO ABATE. AND WE WORK WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT TO SCHEDULE THAT. OR WE COULD BE WORKING WITH THE, WITH TDOT T DOT OFTEN WILL COME TO US WITH A ENCAMPMENT. WE WORK WITH THEM TO DO THAT, THAT OUTREACH WORK. THEY USE A CONTRACTOR. AND SO THAT THE NEXT STEP THEN IS TO COORDINATE OUR, WITH OUR PARTNERS. SO OUR OUTREACH STAFF WILL SOMETIMES BE THERE. WE HAVE ENCAMPMENT ABATEMENT, OUTREACH STAFF AS WELL. AND THEN WE HAVE OUR PARTNERS IN THE COMMUNITY, SAM MINISTRIES, UM, CORONE THAT WE ALSO ASK TO COME TO THE ABATEMENTS. WE WILL ALSO WORK WITH HAVEN FOR HOPE AND POSSIBLY SALVATION ARMY TO DETERMINE IF THERE'S BEDS AVAILABLE, SO THAT WHEN WE OFFER SERVICES TO PEOPLE AHEAD OF THE ABATEMENT AND THE DAY OF THE ABATEMENT, UM, WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE BEDS, UM, AVAILABLE TO, TO OFFER THEM. SO THEN THE DAY OF THE ABATEMENT, THE, UM, TEAM WILL GO, UM, S A P D REALLY IS THERE TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF STAFF. THEY DON'T, THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY IN DOING THE, HAVING THE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE, UM, INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESS AND LIVING IN THAT ENCAMPMENT. UM, OUR STAFF DOES THAT. AND THEN ONCE WE KNOW THAT EVERYBODY IS SAFELY OUT OF THE ENCAMPMENT, THAT THEY'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO PICK UP THE BELONGINGS THAT ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT TO THEM, UM, INCLUDING THEIR ID AND ANY OTHER, UM, DOCUMENTS THAT THEY HAVE, BIRTH CERTIFICATES, THINGS LIKE THAT, THEN UM, SOLID WASTE OR A PRIVATE CONTRACTOR WILL CLEAN UP THE AREA. THANK YOU. AND, UH, JUST FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, I WANNA MOVE ON TO THE, UM, STAFFING RECOMMENDATION FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND, UH, ERIC, YOU AND I HAVE THIS CONVERSATION ALL THE TIME ABOUT, YOU KNOW, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, I'LL SAY A C S NEEDS MORE SUPPORT. THEY NEED MORE RESOURCES. UM, AND YOU SAY, YOU COULD SAY THAT ABOUT EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T CREATED THIS, UM, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T DONE A STAFFING ANALYSIS LIKE THIS FOR EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT. I'M SURE THAT IF YOU WERE TO, UH, DO SOMETHING SIMILAR FOR PUBLIC WORKS, IF YOU WERE TO DO SOMETHING SIMILAR FOR A C S, IF YOU WERE TO DO SOMETHING SIMILAR FOR TRANSPORTATION, YOU MIGHT FIND THAT EVERYONE NEEDS, UH, AN EQUAL, EVERYONE NEEDS AN INCREASE IN THIS WAY. AND SO IT FEELS A LITTLE, I DON'T KNOW, THIS JUST FEELS A LITTLE MESSY TO ME AND SOMEWHAT ARBITRARY TO SAY A HUNDRED. UM, BUT I'M GONNA ASK A VERY, UH, NON-POLITICAL QUESTION. AND IT'S, HOW MUCH ARE THE 100 NEW, I'M SORRY, I, UH, LOST YOU FOR A LITTLE BIT, BUT HOW MUCH IS THE 100 NEW OFFICERS GOING TO COST US IF WE DON'T GET THE GRANT? AND THEN HOW MANY ARE WE GONNA ADD OVER THE NEXT TWO, THREE YEARS? WILL IT BE THAT FULL 360? AND THEN HOW MUCH ARE WE, UM, ALLOCATING AS A PART OF THE U T SS A STUDY TOWARDS THE CRIME, THE PHASE TWO AND THREE FOR CRIME PREVENTION? HELLO, COUNCILMAN. SO THE ANNUAL COST OF ADDING, UH, 12 POLICE OFFICERS IN 2024, I'M SORRY, OF ADDING 100 OFFICERS IN 2024 IS 12.4 MILLION. THAT IS THE TOTAL COST. IF WE WERE TO GET THE GRANT, UH, THE GRANT IS FOR FIVE YEARS AND IS, UH, THE GRANT WILL OFFER THE CITY $6.3 MILLION THAT WE GET IT OVER THAT FIVE YEAR WINDOW NOW. AND COUNCIL AND COUNCIL COUNCILMAN THAT THAT $12 MILLION ASSUMES THAT WE HIRED PROBABLY ALL HUNDRED OFFICERS ON OCTOBER 1ST, WHICH AS WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS, WE'LL NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO SCHEDULE THAT WITH ACADEMY. SO WOULD THAT'S THE MAXIMUM COST IN THE FIRST YEAR? UM, IT WOULD BE LESS THAN THAT. IF THAT'S, IF WE GO THROUGH THAT, THE, THE BUDGET THIS SUMMER, THAT'S, UM, $12.4 MILLION A YEAR, OR IS IT OVER FIVE YEARS FOR 112 POINT? 12.4 MILLION IS THE ANNUAL COST OF 100 OFFICERS. OKAY. I, I [01:40:01] THOUGHT SO. UM, MAN, THAT'S QUITE A BIT. AND WE DO INTEND ON OVER THE COURSE OF THREE TO FIVE YEARS ADDING MORE THAN A HUNDRED OFFICERS BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATION THAT I THINK I SAW IN THE SLIDE. IS THAT ACCURATE OR NO? YES, THAT IS CORRECT, COUNCILMAN. AND THEN THE NEXT PART OF THE OTHER PART OF THE QUESTION WAS HOW MUCH DO WE ESTIMATE THAT WE'LL BE SPENDING ON CRIME PREVENTION AS A PART OF PHASE TWO AND THREE AS THE, UM, IN THE U T S A PARTNERSHIP? WE HAVE NOT CALCULATED THAT COUNCILMAN PHASE ONE, PHASE ONE WITH EXISTING RESOURCES. PHASE TWO, AS YOU MAY RECALL, IS WHEN WE BRING OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS TO ADDRESS OTHER ISSUES, UH, OUTSIDE THE POLICE, UM, UH, BOUNDARIES IF YOU WILL, WHERE WE BRING CODE ENFORCEMENT AND WE MAY FIND SOME, UM, ITEMS TO BE ADDRESSED, LIKE STREET LIGHTS, FOR EXAMPLE. SO WE DON'T HAVE AN ESTIMATED COST OF THAT PHASE TWO. AND COUNCILMAN, WE DO, WE DO HAVE, UH, AND IT WAS ON THE, ONE OF THE BOBBY'S LAST SLIDES, THE REFERENCE TO THE COMMUNITY SAFETY FUNDING. THAT'S THE MONEY WE SET ASIDE AFTER THE LAST ARPA UPDATE TO THE COUNCIL IS ABOUT THREE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE SAID WE WOULD HOLD FOR, UM, UH, THE, GETTING A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD IN TERMS OF THE PHASE ONE U T S A. UM, SO THOSE ARE, THAT WE'VE SET ASIDE SOME RESOURCE TO BE ABLE TO DO SOME OF THAT. I SUSPECT THAT'D BE MORE OF A CONVERSATION THAT YOU GUYS POTENTIALLY WOULD HAVE NEXT WEEK. UM, UH, THE TRIAL BUDGET AND MID-YEAR CONVERSATIONS, AND THEN ULTIMATELY IN THE BUDGET NEXT YEAR. SO WE DO HAVE SOME MONEY SET ASIDE. AND MY LAST THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER MCKEE RODRIGUEZ. UM, WE'LL GO NOW TO COUNCIL MEMBER BRAVO. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, ERIC, I'M GONNA PREVIEW, UH, ONE OF MY BUDGET ASKS IS THAT WE IMPROVE THE AUDIO IN HERE FOR ANYBODY WHO, UM, IS PARTICIPATING REMOTELY. 'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S JUST GOT THAT, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S A DIFFERENT SPEAKER SYSTEM AND IT'S JUST MUCH MORE DIFFICULTY TO HEAR EVERYONE, I THINK. UM, I'M REALLY GLAD, GLAD TO HEAR ABOUT THE GOOD NEIGHBOR, GOOD NEIGHBOR PROGRAM, MARIA. I DO, I MIGHT HAVE SOME COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT ISSUES WITH IT BECAUSE I JUST STARTED A GOOD NEIGHBOR PARKING PROGRAM IN DISTRICT ONE. UH, BUT I, I'M EXCITED TO HEAR ABOUT IT. AND THE REASON IS THAT WHEN, OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS WHEN I'VE BEEN MEETING WITH MY NEIGHBORHOODS, WHEN THEY BRING UP PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES, THEY OFTEN CAN POINT TO ONE OR TWO HOUSES IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THE BULK OF THEIR, YOU KNOW, SERIOUS ISSUES THAT THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT ARE COMING FROM. AND, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY'LL TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE THE DRUGS ARE BEING SOLD OUT OF. THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, THESE PROBLEM CHARACTERS, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE, WHO ARE, YOU KNOW, COMMITTING THE PROPERTY CRIME, WHATEVER IT IS, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN, THEY CAN POINT TO IT IN, IN JUST ABOUT EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU KNOW, THEY KNOW WHERE IT'S COMING FROM. AND WE'VE HAD THAT DANGEROUS ASSESSMENT RESPONSE TEAM, THE DART TEAM, AND IT'S FANTASTIC. I'VE ACCOMPANIED THEM, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY'VE GONE OUT TO, TO DO ONE OF THEIR, UM, INTERVENTIONS, IF YOU MIGHT CALL IT THAT. AND THOSE ARE THINGS THAT THE COMMUNITY REALLY WELCOMES. UM, BUT THE PERSPECTIVE THAT I, THAT I THINK A LOT OF MY CONSTITUENTS AND I HAVE IS THAT THE THRESHOLD TO, UH, TO INITIATE A DART IS TOO HIGH. AND THE TIMELINE TO QUALIFY FOR THAT IS TOO LONG. UM, AND THEN THE OTHER CONCERN IS THAT IT'S NOT INDIVIDUALLY FUNDED, RIGHT? IT'S EVERYBODY PARTICIPATING FROM THE DIFFERENT, FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, FROM CODE COMPLIANCE, FROM SS A P D, FROM ANYBODY ELSE. THEY'RE ALL TAKING TIME IN ADDITION TO DOING THEIR REGULAR JOB AND GOING AND DOING THAT. AM I WRONG, ERIC? WELL, I THINK YOU NEED TO PARTLY I, BUT, BUT I THINK, I THINK, UM, AND M I H IS A GREAT EXAMPLE, RIGHT? UM, THAT THAT IS TIME, TIME SPENT WITH THOSE 150 FREQUENT CALLERS. UM, WE'RE SPENDING THAT MONEY ANYWAY BECAUSE THE E M S UNIT DOWN THE STREET, WHETHER IT'S ON A CALL OR NOT, SO IT'S AVAILABILITY. SO I, YOU KNOW, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, THERE'S SAVITA ISS OVER THERE IN THE FIRST ROW. AVITAS GOT A LOT OF OTHER THINGS TO DO OTHER THAN DART, BUT IF WE'RE NOT DOING DART, SHE'S GONNA BE WORKING ON THOSE ANYWAY. AND THE SAME THING CAN BE APPLIED TO THE SAFE OFFICER. YEAH. AND THE A C O. SO IT IS, IT'S WORKING UPSTREAM TO DEAL WITH SOME OF THOSE LARGER ISSUES THAT ARE UNDOUBTEDLY PART OF THE THREE AND A HALF MILLION CALLS WE GET A YEAR. A AGREED. SO I GUESS WHAT MY ASK IS, SHOULD WE NOT HAVE A TEAM DEDICATED TO THIS THAT'S FUNDED? [01:45:01] AND I MEAN, I, IT SEEMS LIKE IN ORDER TO GET THIS UNDER CONTROL, AND SHOULD WE NOT MAYBE START OFF WITH JUST A LEADERSHIP TEAM THAT OVERSEES ALL OF THIS AND FUNDS THAT? NO, I WOULD, YOU KNOW, RATHER THAN HAVE PEOPLE MEET ONCE A MONTH. YEAH, YEAH. I, I, I WOULD SAY THAT, AND ULTIMATELY, IF THIS IS SOMETHING YOU GUYS WANNA PRIORITIZE NEXT WEEK, BUT I, WE HAVE A GROUP OF EXECUTIVES AND EMPLOYEES, AND I'LL, AND I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, AS, AS, AS WELL-MEANING AND, AND UNDERSTANDING AS, AS THEY ARE, IT'S THE SAFE OFFICER, IT'S THE PATROL OFFICER, IT'S THE CODE OFFICER, IT'S THE A C O THAT KNOW AT THE GROUND LEVEL. WE MAY, AND, AND MARIA, MARIA TALKED ABOUT IT, WE MAY NEED ADDITIONAL RESOURCES AS PART OF GOOD NEIGHBOR, BUT I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO CREATE WHOLE NEW UNITS WITHIN THIS ORGANIZATION BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF ALL OF OUR JOBS. WE, WE MIGHT NEED HELP. I'M GONNA GO OUT ON A LIMB, WE MIGHT NEED HELP IN THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO DO THIS AND HAVE A DEDICATED EFFORT. WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO, UM, SOME DEDICATED DATA ANALYSIS BECAUSE ALL THE DATA'S THERE. WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE COMMUNICATING IT AND REPORTING IT BOTH TO THE PUBLIC, TO THE COUNCIL, TO THE CITY MANAGER, TO THE POLICE CHIEF OR, OR SHANNON. SO WE MAY NEED SOME MORE RESOURCES, BUT, BUT US ALL BEING PART OF THAT EFFORT IS ALL PART OF WHAT WE'RE RESPONDING TO AT THE END OF THE DAY ANYWAY. SO YEAH, A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH, PROBABLY. I, OKAY. I'M GONNA AGREE WITH YOU ON A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH. I THINK IT MIGHT BE, WE MIGHT HAVE SOME, A FEW DEDICATED STAFF THAT OVERSEE THE WHOLE THING. UH, BUT THEN YOU'RE RIGHT. I MEAN, LIKE THE SAFE OFFICERS KNOW WHERE THOSE HOUSES ARE. THEY'VE BEEN INVOLVED, THEY KNOW WHO THOSE INDIVIDUALS ARE. THEY'VE INTERACTED WITH 'EM BEFORE. SO I THINK IT'S BRINGING ALL THE PEOPLE WHO DO THAT WORK EVERY DAY TOGETHER, BUT MAYBE UNDER A, YOU KNOW, A LEADERSHIP TEAM THAT OVERSEES THE PROGRAM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IMPLEMENTING IT MORE FREQUENTLY. SO, AND COUNCILMAN, IF, IF I MAY ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION ON THE CRITERIA WE USE FOR THE DART TEAM, A LOT OF THAT IS BASED ON, ON ONE OF OUR, OUR KEY ENFORCEMENT TOOLS IS, UM, A NUISANCE OF BASEMENT LAWSUIT THAT WE CAN DO UNDER STATE LAW, BUT STATE LAW OUTLINES WHAT OFFENSES WE CAN BRING THOSE SUITS UNDER. AND SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THE LEVEL OF, OF, UH, THE LEVEL AND TYPE OF, UH, CRIMINAL CONDUCT THAT WE NEED TO SEE BEFORE WE CAN START A DART INSPECTION. SO DO WE NEED TO REVIEW THAT AS PART OF OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA AND SEE IF, IF WE NEED ANY ASSISTANCE THERE ON, OR ANY TWEAKS FROM THE STATE IN TERMS OF, WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, BUT I MEAN, RIGHT, RIGHT NOW THE TIMEFRAME IS SUCH THAT WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE NEXT LEGISLATURE, BUT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF DART COUNCILMAN OR THE YEAH, YEAH. IN ORDER TO, YEAH, IN ORDER TO, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO EXECUTE A DART WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, TAKING ON A RELIABILITY. YEAH. THAT WOULD, LIABILITY WOULD LIKELY REQUIRE LEGISLATIVE CHANGE. AND, AND LIKE ANNIE SAID, THERE ARE NO MORE, WE'RE, WE'RE ALREADY DEEP INTO THAT PROCESS. BILLS ARE FILED ON THE, ON THE GOOD NEIGHBOR SIDE. AND THE REASON WHY MARIA SAID WE MAY NEED ENFORCEMENT TOOLS AS WE GO THROUGH IT, WE HAVE PLENTY OF ENFORCEMENT TOOLS WITHIN, UH, UH, CODE NOW. AND, UM, WE'RE NOT CERTAIN WE ACTUALLY NEED MORE ENFORCEMENT TOOLS. WE MAY NEED TO BETTER UTILIZE AND COORDINATE OUR ENFORCEMENT TOOLS WE HAVE. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, LOOKING AT MY SHOT CLOCK UP THERE, UH, LORI, I WAS REALLY HAPPY TO HEAR THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT HOW MUCH MONEY YOU WERE SAVING, YOU TALKED ABOUT SAVING $50 MILLION THROUGH OUR INVESTMENTS IN, UH, HOMELESSNESS AND, UH, ASSISTING PEOPLE WHO ARE HOMELESS. UM, ONE THING THAT I'VE HEARD, UM, WELL, ONE THING I HEAR FROM MY CONSTITUENTS IS THEY SAY, WELL, SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO ARE LIVING ON THE STREETS, THEY DON'T WANT HELP. AND THEN WHAT I HEAR FROM OUR HOMELESS OUTREACH WORKERS IS THAT, HEY, IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO BUILD RELATIONSHIPS WITH THESE INDIVIDUALS AND, UM, TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING ON THE STREET, THEY, THERE TRUST IS BROKEN. THEY'VE INTERACTED WITH THE SYSTEM BEFORE, AND THEY'RE TRAUMATIZED AND, AND TRUST IS BROKEN. AND SO WE HAVE HOMELESS OUTREACH WORKERS, WHETHER THEY WORK FOR THE CITY OR WHETHER THEY WORK FOR, UH, DIFFERENT NONPROFITS IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO GO OUT THERE AND THEY SPEND A LOT OF TIME BUILDING THESE RELATIONSHIPS, BUILDING TRUST. AND THEN FINALLY, WHEN SOME, WHEN AN INDIVIDUAL WHO'S LIVING ON THE STREET GETS TO A POINT WHERE THEY SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? I'VE HAD A DRUG HABIT AND I'M READY TO KICK IT, AND I WANT TO, I WANT TO TRY SOMETHING NEW. I WANT TO, I WANT TO, YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA GIVE THIS ANOTHER SHOT. AND THEY CALL UP THAT HOMELESS OUTREACH WORKER WHO'S BUILT A RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM OVER THE LAST YEAR. AND THEN THEY'RE TOLD, SORRY, WE DON'T HAVE ANY DETOX BEDS RIGHT NOW. AND I HEAR THIS FAR TOO OFTEN. AND THEN YOU HAVE TO WAIT. YOU MIGHT HAVE TO WAIT A MONTH OR SO TO BE ABLE TO GET INTO A DETOX BED. AND SO, FROM WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY, THIS SEEMS LIKE THIS IS A WEAK LINK. AND MAYBE THAT'S MORE ON THE COUNTY SIDE, ERIC, BUT WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO FILL THAT GAP SO THAT WE'RE SO NO ONE'S FALLING THROUGH THE CRACKS [01:50:01] ON THAT. COUNCILMAN, I DO WANNA SHARE THAT THAT ISSUE HAS IMPROVED GREATLY. AND CURRENTLY OUR BEDS WE'RE AT 80% CAPACITY WITH OUR BEDS. AND SO WHEN SOMEBODY IS READY FOR SERVICE, WE ARE ABLE TO GET THEM IN A BED IMMEDIATELY. AND SO ON, ON THE RARE OCCASION, IT'S NOT, IT CAN BE A COUPLE OF DAYS, BUT RIGHT NOW, BASED ON OUR COORDINATION, WE ARE ABLE TO GET THEM INTO A BED OR GIVE THEM A TIMEFRAME OF A COUPLE OF DAYS WHEN THEY CAN GET INTO A BED. YEAH. AND SO A LOT OF THAT IS KIND OF REEDUCATING, UM, THE PUBLIC 'CAUSE THAT WOULD'VE BEEN TRUE A A COUPLE YEARS AGO, BUT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO IMPROVE THAT. OKAY. THAT, THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M HEARING. BUT I, YOU KNOW, I'M HAPPY TO CIRCLE BACK WITH INDIVIDUALS. THANK YOU. UM, WHEN I RAN FOR THIS OFFICE, I COMMITTED TO HAVING A BALANCED APPROACH. AND, UM, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IS I'VE, YOU KNOW, I'VE SAID WE NEED TO, UM, MAKE SURE THAT WHEN, THAT WE HAVE GOOD POLICE OFFICERS OUT THERE WHEN WE, YOU KNOW, AND IF WE FIRE A POLICE OFFICER, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THEY FI STAY FIRED AND THAT THEY'RE ACCOUNTABLE. BUT IT ALSO MEANS THAT WHERE WE HAVE, UH, PROBLEMS WITH CRIME IN OUR COMMUNITY, WE NEED MORE OFFICERS THERE. AND WE, WE NEED TO HIRE THEM AND WE NEED TO GET THEM OUT THERE. AND, UM, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IS, FOR ME, UM, WHEN WE, WHEN THE POLICE CONTRACT WAS BROUGHT TO COUNCIL, I VOTED AGAINST IT. ALTHOUGH MARIA, YOU DID A GREAT JOB OF MAKING A LOT OF PROGRESS ON THAT. AND, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. IT DIDN'T QUITE GET TO WHERE I NEEDED IT TO BE OR WHERE I HAD COMMITTED TO WHEN I RAN FOR OFFICE. BUT ANOTHER COMMITMENT I MADE WHEN I RAN FOR OFFICE WAS I TOLD POLICE OFFICERS, I SAID, LOOK, I'M A DATA-DRIVEN PERSON. I'M A RESEARCH, UM, YOU KNOW, RESEARCH FOCUSED INDIVIDUAL. AND I SAID, IF YOU BRING ME A STUDY THAT SAYS THAT THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO AND THAT'S GONNA MAKE OUR COMMUNITY SAFER, I WILL GET BEHIND IT AND I WILL SUPPORT IT. AND SO YOU ALL ARE NOW BRINGING ME THIS, THIS, UM, STAFFING, UH, RESOURCE, THIS STAFFING RECOMMENDATION. AND SO I DO SUPPORT THAT, UH, THE ADDITIONAL 100 OFFICERS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER BRAVO. COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY. THANK YOU, SIR. UM, MARIA, I JUST GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON THE GOOD NEIGHBOR PROGRAM. UM, UH, WOW, I LOOKED AT THAT CHART AND OWE HER 800 CALLS. WHAT, OVER WHAT PERIOD OF TIME IS THAT? 90 DAYS. 90 DAYS. WOW. THAT'S AMAZING. UM, BUT UM, ALONG WITH THAT, HOW, HOW ARE WE GONNA INTEGRATE THE, THE SWEEP PROGRAM? YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS THAT GO OUT AND DO, DO NEIGHBORHOOD SWEEPS AND THAT KIND OF THING. IS THAT GONNA BE A PART OF THIS PROGRAM? IT MAY BE. COUNCILMAN, THOSE ARE THE DETAILS THAT WE WANNA WORK OUT BETWEEN NOW AND JUNE ONE, UM, TO BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH THOSE HOMES THAT HAVE THAT, THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE CALLS ARE RELATED TO CODE VIOLATIONS, UH, OR ANIMAL CARE SERVICES, FOR EXAMPLE. WELL, I THINK THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD SWEEPS ARE IMPORTANT BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES, IN FACT, IN MY DISTRICT, YOU HAVE HOUSES THAT ARE DERELICT GRASS, GROWING UP, TRASH ALL OVER THE PLACE, UH, AND THEY, THEY LOOK LIKE THEY'RE VACANT AND NOBODY CALLS THAT IN. AND THIS WOULD BE A PRIME EXAMPLE OF, UH, BEING PICKED UP DURING THAT SWEEP PROGRAM TO IDENTIFY THOSE AND START THOSE ACTIONS TO GET 'EM CLEANED UP, THAT KIND OF THING. SO, UM, I THINK THAT SHOULD BE AN INTEGRAL PART OF THIS PROGRAM IS, UH, UH, FULLY FUNDING THAT SWEEP PROGRAM AS WELL AS A DART DART TEAMS GOING OUT. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, ONCE SOMETHING IS IDENTIFIED, LET, LET'S SAY WHEN IT FIRST COMES IN, HOW LONG, WHAT, WHAT'S THE TIMELINE TO ACTUALLY MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN ON A, ON A DART PROGRAM LIKE TAKING A HOUSE DOWN OR BUILDING DOWN OR WHATEVER. I'M GONNA HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE RESPOND TO THAT COUNCIL. OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCILMAN JON NIO, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. YOU KNOW, AS WE INDICATED, THE DART UH, PROGRAM GOES AFTER THE WORST OF THE WORST NUISANCE PROPERTIES. THEY HAVE A TWO YEAR HISTORY. AND THAT'S REALLY BECAUSE, UH, BASED ON STATE LAW, BASED ON CASE LAW, BASED ON JUST OUR COURTS, UH, WE'RE GOING AFTER PROPERTIES WITH THE IDEA THAT WE EITHER GONNA CLOSE THOSE PROPERTIES DOWN, SOMETIMES DEMOLISH THOSE PROPERTIES. SO IT'S ONE OF THOSE THAT WE NEED THE EVIDENCE THAT WE COULD SHOW A COURT, UH, THESE ARE THE REASONS WE'RE DOING THIS. SO THERE'S NO QUESTION ALL THE TEAM MEMBERS BRING THE PROPERTIES TO THE, TO THE, TO THE MEETING THEMSELVES. SO WE COUNT ON ALL OUR TEAM MEMBERS TO TELL US WHICH ARE THOSE WORST PROPERTIES THAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH IN THEIR DISTRICTS. SO ONCE THEY BRING 'EM FORWARD, WE RESEARCH THEM. ONCE WE RESEARCH THEM, THEN WE PUT, WE ALSO HAVE A, A MORE PROPERTIES THAN WE CAN, THAN WE CAN COUNT. UH, AND THEN WE PUT THOSE IN PRIORITY ORDER AS WELL, AND THEN, UH, AND THEN SET THE INSPECTIONS AT THAT POINT. OKAY. AND YOU'RE SAYING YOU JUST PRIORITIZE THEM? YES, SIR. BECAUSE YOU HAVE MORE THAN WHAT YOU CAN HANDLE. HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH MORE RESOURCES DO [01:55:01] YOU NEED TO ADEQUATELY ADDRESS IN A TIMELY MANNER THESE THAT ARE BEING IDENTIFIED FOR DART SERVICES? THAT, THAT'S THE QUESTION, YOU KNOW, IS THAT GONNA BE PART OF THE BUDGET? UM, LOOKING AT WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO INCREASE THOSE SERVICES. YOU KNOW, I'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH, WITH, WITH ANDY AND, AND, AND, AND ERIC TO DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, WHAT OTHER RESOURCES WE NEED TO, TO DEVELOP A A, A LARGER DART PROGRAM FOR THIS, FOR THIS MATTER. UH, OF COURSE THE, THE BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DARDEN AND THE GOOD NEIGHBOR PROGRAM ARE KIND OF LIKE ALMOST APPLES AND ORANGES, RIGHT. AND THE TYPES OF PROPERTIES THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH. SO, UM, OKAY. BUT WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL GET THAT INFORMATION. OKAY, GREAT. WE, WE CONTINUE OUR COUNCILMAN TO EVALUATE IN TERMS OF WHAT THE DART PROGRAM IS ACCOMPLISHING, AND AS JOE SAID, WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE WE HAVE THE RIGHT PRIORITIES. OKAY, GREAT. UM, THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE, MARIA. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, LORI, I, LORI, I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU. YOU PRO YOU PROBABLY EXPECTED THAT, RIGHT? LET, LET'S START WITH, UH, SLIDE NUMBER FOUR AND WANTED TO JUST TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT. THAT'S OUR POINT IN TIME COUNT. THAT HASN'T REALLY CHANGED A LOT OVER THE YEARS. WHAT I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE AT THE BOTTOM OF EACH ONE OF THOSE, OR AT THE TOP, EACH ONE OF THOSE BARS IS WHAT THAT YOU, YOU SAID, UH, FOR 2020, I GUESS IT'S 2022, THE $76.8 MILLION, PUT SOMEWHERE ON THAT, ON THAT CHART THAT SAYS, OKAY, HERE'S THE RESOURCES THAT WE'RE PUTTING AND HERE'S THE RESULTS OF THOSE RESOURCES. AND I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT THAT, UM, WHAT THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY IS ACROSS TIME TO SEE HAS THAT, HAS THAT INCREASED OR DECREASED OVER TIME? ARE WE PUTTING THE RESOURCES IN? WHAT'S THE RESULTS? THAT KIND OF THING. UM, SO IF THAT COULD BE ADDED TO THAT CHART, THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC. I APPRECIATE THAT. UM, ALONG WITH THAT, THE $76.8 MILLION THAT, DOES THAT INCLUDE ANY MONEY FROM THE COUNTY, UM, OR NONPROFITS THAT ARE OUT THERE WORKING LIKE FAITH-BASED, UH, CHURCHES THAT THAT KIND OF THING? OR IS THAT NO, THIS JUST INCLUDES THE CITY FUNDING. OKAY. AND IT INCLUDES FEDERAL FUNDING AND THEN IT INCLUDES THE STATE OF TEXAS, AND THERE'S A SMALL AMOUNT FROM THE COUNTY THAT'S ALL OF OUR PUBLIC AND PUBLIC SECTOR CONTRIBUTORS. IT DOES NOT INCLUDE NON-PROFIT FUNDRAISING OR ANYTHING. IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE COULD CAPTURE THAT, THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY GOING INTO THIS, THIS ISSUE HERE? IT WOULD BE VERY CHALLENGING. WE CAN SEE WHAT WE CAN DO WITH OUR PARTNERS THAT WE FUND, BUT WE DON'T FUND EVERYONE. AND SO, UM, WE CAN DO A, UM, DO RESEARCH ON EVERYBODY THAT WE FUND AND GET THAT NUMBER FROM YOU. SO I HAVE IT FOR HAVEN, WE HAVE IT FOR SAM. UM, YEAH, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET MY HANDS AROUND WHAT THE TOTAL MM-HMM. , UM, AMOUNT OF MONEY BEING PUT INTO THIS, THIS ISSUE HERE FOR THE CITY. AND THIS IS JUST THE TAX DOLLARS, IF YOU WILL. MM-HMM. , NOT COUNTING THE NON NON-PROFITS OUT THERE, LIKE THE CHURCHES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. UH, THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT PROVIDE SERVICES, FOOD, SHELTER, THAT KIND OF THING. UM, THAT WE'RE NOT COUNTING IN THAT NOW. MAYBE IT'S A SEPARATE, SEPARATE, UH, AMOUNT OF MONEY OR WHATEVER, IF THEY ARE GETTING FUNDING FROM THE CITY THAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT CHURCH. OKAY. YEAH. I'M TALKING ABOUT THOSE THAT ARE OUTSIDE THAT FUNDING SOURCE IS IF, IF WE COULD PUT A CALL OUT TO, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW A LOT OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS OUT THERE TO GET A, JUST A, A HANDLE ON HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL MONEY IS GOING INTO THESE PROGRAMS OUT THERE. MM-HMM. , UH, JUST, JUST FOR, FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES, BUT I, I THINK WHAT, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU MENTIONED SOME NUMBERS MM-HMM. ON WHAT OUR RETURN ON INVESTMENT IS. MM-HMM. , I'D REALLY LIKE TO GET SOME MORE DETAIL ON THAT. MM-HMM. LIST, LIST OUT WHAT THOSE RETURNS ARE FOR THAT. MM-HMM. , YOU KNOW, IF IT'S TWO OR THREE OR 10 OR 20 DIFFERENT LINE ITEMS, WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE THE RETURNS THAT WE'RE GETTING OUT OF THIS INVESTMENT HERE, THE $76 MILLION A YEAR. SO WE'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE SOME KIND OF A, A CHART OR TABLE OF THAT, UH, UM, LISTED OUT ON WHAT THOSE RETURNS ARE FOR, FOR THESE, THESE PROGRAMS HERE. AND, UM, UM, THE, UM, LOOKING AT SLIDE NUMBER EIGHT, UM, AND I JUST WANT TO PUT A SHOUT OUT TO THE OUTREACH PEOPLE THAT WE STARTED IN DISTRICT 10 AND NOW IT'S EXPANDED ACROSS THE CITY. UH, THEY'RE DOING GREAT WORK OUT THERE, BUT, UM, UM, 35 PEOPLE ON THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS. GREAT. UM, 270 ACTIVE CASES IS THAT, TO ME, THAT SEEMS A LITTLE BIT LOW WHEN WE HAVE A POINT IN TIME COUNT OUT THERE THAT'S OVER, OVER A THOUSAND OR CLOSE TO 2000. [02:00:01] WELL, THE POINT IN TIME COUNT INCLUDES SHELTERED AND UNSHELTERED. AND SO THAT ACTIVE CASE MANAGEMENT IS RELATED TO THOSE THAT ARE UNSHELTERED AND THOSE ARE THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING WITH WHO ARE ENGAGING WITH US. AND SO 25% OF THOSE THAT ARE UNSHELTERED ARE ACTIVELY ENGAGED WITH US. AND, AND THAT IS A GOOD NUMBER. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, AND THEN IN SLIDE NUMBER NINE ON THE ENCAMPMENT ABATEMENT PROCESS, UH, 688 TONS IN F Y 22, AND WE'VE ALREADY SUPPRESSED THAT IN 23. WHAT'S THE COST? AND IS THIS COST INCLUDED IN THAT $76 MILLION ALSO? THAT IS UNDER AN INDIRECT SERVICES. SO WE HAVE A FUNDING AMOUNT LISTED FOR SOLID WASTE OF 1.4 MILLION. AND THAT IS THE INDIRECT SERVICES, WHICH ARE TOTAL 21.4 MILLION. OKAY. AND THAT, THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE 76 MILLION? YES. OKAY, GREAT. GREAT. UM, WELL THIS IS, THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT, UM, I'VE CONTINUALLY TALKED ABOUT. WE'VE GOT SO MANY STOVE PIPES OUT WITH DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS AND, AND, YOU KNOW, REALLY HAVEN'T SEEN MUCH IN THE WAY OF LEVELING, LEVELING THOSE STOVE PIPES TO WHERE YOU GET MORE ORGANIZATIONS TO WORK IN THE SAME DIRECTION OF PROVIDING MORE, MORE SERVICES TO THOSE THAT REALLY NEED IT. UM, INSTEAD OF ALL THESE INDIVIDUAL ORGANIZATIONS PROVIDING LIKE, SERVICES OUT THERE. AND, AND I KNOW THAT THE, UH, DELEGATE AGENCY, UH, PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE HERE IN THE CITY, I THINK THINK WE CALL OUT FOR THAT AND WE ASK FOR METRICS ON, ON THAT. UH, THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON, UH, SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE'RE USING THEIR TAX DOLLARS WISELY AND WE WE'RE GETTING SOME, YOU KNOW, HERE ARE THEIR ACTUAL RETURNS ON THEIR INVESTMENTS ON THAT. AND I, AND I, I THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO, AGAIN, BACK ON SLIDE NUMBER FOUR TO ADD THAT TOTAL AMOUNT OF MONEY TO SEE IS THAT MAKING A DIFFERENCE? LIKE I SAID, IT'S BEEN PRETTY CONSTANT OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS HERE. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, SHOULD WE, SHOULD WE ADJUST THAT TOTAL EXPENDITURE, UH, UP OR DOWN OR WHATEVER, UH, ACCORDING TO WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE, UH, GETTING FOR THE PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR. UM, LET'S SEE. I THINK, I THINK THAT'S IT. UH, LORI, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MM-HMM. , APPRECIATE IT. UM, ALRIGHT, LET'S TALK ABOUT, UH, POLICE. WELL, I'M ALMOST OUTTA TIME. I'LL JUST SAY THAT I'LL GET THAT TIME ADDED ON TO THE NEXT ROUND. HOW ABOUT THAT? ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY. COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UH, MY ONLY CONCERN ABOUT THE GOOD NEIGHBOR PROGRAM IS THAT WE'VE REALLY GOT IT JUST LIMITED TO THE TOP 20, TOO FEW. AND I'M WONDERING IF WE REALLY CAN'T FIND ENOUGH RESOURCES TO GO DEEPER THAN JUST THE TOP 20. I RECOGNIZE THAT REPRESENT 27% OF A CERTAIN NUMBER OF THE, THE COMPLAINTS WE WERE GETTING. AND I RECOGNIZE ALSO IT SAYS THAT, UH, AS WE GET ONE OFF, WE'LL ADD ONE TO IT, SO TO SPEAK. BUT I DON'T KNOW, UH, HOW LONG THAT PROCESS COULD TAKE. IT COULD TAKE A YEAR OR TWO TO GET ONE OFF OR TWO OFF. SO, UH, IS THERE ANY HOPE OF TRYING TO REACH OUT TO EVEN MORE THAN JUST THOSE 20 TO BEGIN WITH COUNCILMAN? I THINK AT THIS POINT THE BENEFIT OF DOING THE PILOT PROGRAM AND EVEN THE WORK PRIOR TO JUNE, SO WHEN WE COME BACK TO YOU IN AUGUST, I THINK I WOULD HAVE BETTER INFORMATION TO ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION. OKAY. THAT'S FAIR. I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT HOMELESS A LITTLE BIT. UM, I'D LIKE TO SEE, UH, A BREAKDOWN OF THE UNSHELTERED HOMELESS. I THINK ACCORDING TO OUR LAST COUNT, THERE WAS SOMEWHERE AROUND 1100, 1200 WHO WERE UNSHELTERED AND ABOUT 17, 1800 WHO WERE IN A SHELTER. UM, HOW MANY OF THEM ARE VETS? HOW MANY OF THEM ARE YOUTH? HOW MANY OF THEM ARE SENIORS? AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL HELP US WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT OTHER SERVICES WE WANNA PROVIDE TO SENIORS AND THE YOUTH AND TO VETERANS. AND COUNCILMAN, I CAN PROVIDE YOU SOME INFORMATION ON THE 2022 NUMBERS TODAY. UM, BUT THE 2023 NUMBERS ARE COMING OUT IN MAY. SARAH WILL BE RELEASING 'EM AND THEY WILL HAVE THAT DEMOGRAPHIC BREAKDOWN. BUT FOR THE 2022 NUMBERS, I CAN SAY 7% ARE VETS. UM, ANOTHER 7% IDENTIFIES LT PLUS. UM, WE HAVE ABOUT 15% THAT ARE YOUTH. SO UNDER THE AGE OF OF 17, YOU SAID 15 1 5? YES. OKAY. AND 26% ARE OVER THE AGE OF 55. UM, WE DID SEE AN INCREASE FROM 2021 TO 2022 IN FAMILIES THAT ARE HOMELESS. AND THAT [02:05:01] WAS A PRETTY LARGE INCREASE AND IT WAS 25%. WE WILL HAVE A BETTER NUMBER IN 2023. WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT NUMBER, UM, THAT MOST LIKELY RESULTED FROM THE PANDEMIC. AND I KNOW COUNCILWOMAN, ADRIANA ROCHA GARCIA HAS BEEN WORKING WITH OUR HOMELESS HUDDLE PARTNERS, UM, TO COME UP WITH SOME LOOP SOLUTIONS. HAVEN HAS COMMITTED TO NEVER TURN AWAY A FAMILY. UM, BUT IT'S MAKING SURE THAT OUR OUTREACH WORKERS AND OUR OTHER PARTNERS KNOW THAT AND THEY KNOW WHO TO CALL WHEN WE ARE TRYING TO HOUSE THAT FAMILY. YOU MENTIONED THE OUTREACH WORKERS, AND I THINK YOU SAID WE'VE IDENTIFIED ABOUT 35. WE HAVE 35 THAT ARE WORKING IN THE FIELD TOGETHER. MM-HMM. . YES. AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 1200 HOMELESS OUT IN THE STREETS. AND I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S UNREASONABLE TO EXPECT THAT WE MIGHT GET 10 OF THEM THAT MIGHT SAY, I'M READY TO COME IN AND DO SOMETHING. BUT IF WE WERE TO GET 10 EVERY DAY AND 300 IN A MONTH, WHERE WOULD WE PUT 'EM? YEAH, EXACTLY. AND THAT'S ONE OF, UM, THAT'S WHY OUR HOUSING, AFFORDABLE HOUSING BOND IS SO IMPORTANT. YEAH. BUT THAT'S A YEAR OR TWO DOWN THE LINE BEFORE THOSE THINGS GET BUILT. MM-HMM. , I'M TALKING ABOUT THIS MONTH, NEXT MONTH, THE NEXT SIX MONTHS. WELL, WE, WE PUT THEM DEPENDING ON, WE FIND PLACES FOR 'EM, SO MM-HMM. HAVEN FOR HOPE, THEY WILL NOT TURN AWAY A FAMILY. YEAH. UM, IF THERE IS AN INDIVIDUAL WHO'S LOOKING FOR HOUSING, WE CALL OUR PARTNERS AND WE TRY TO, TO WORK ON FINDING SHELTER FOR THEM. DOES HAVEN STILL HAVE A HOTEL THAT IS OPERATING ON OUR BEHALF? NO HAVEN NO LONGER HAS THE HOTEL THAT WAS ASSOCIATED. WE HAVE THE LOW BARRIER SHELTER HOTEL, AND, UM, THAT IS OPERATED BY SAM. RIGHT. OKAY. UM, SO RIGHT NOW WE, WE, WE CAN ACCOMMODATE MOST INDIVIDUALS IF THEY WANT TO GO INTO HOUSING, BUT THAT'S A BIG IF SOMETIMES WE MIGHT HAVE ROOM AT HAVEN, BUT THEY DON'T WANT TO GO TO HAVEN. MOST OF THEM WANT TO GO INTO PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. AND THAT I THINK MOST OF OF 'EM WANNA STAY OUT IN CAMP. SOME DO, SOME DO, SOME DO. YES. YEAH. AND, AND THERE NEEDS TO BE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SOLVE FOR ALL OF ALL OF THEM. I'M JUST WONDERING IF, IF IT ISN'T AS AFFORDABLE AS ANYTHING ELSE WE DO TO GET ANOTHER HOTEL, HAVE ANOTHER 80 OR 150 ROOMS TO HELP HOMELESS COME RIGHT OFF THE STREETS OVER A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. SO THAT'S WHY I BRING THAT UP. YES. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS IS TO SEE HOW WE CAN IDENTIFY MORE LOW BARRIER SHELTER OPTIONS TO DO THAT. OKAY. UH, YOU KNOW, UH, I, I SEE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT ENCAMPING ABATEMENT GUIDELINES AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT 11 OR 1200 UNSHELTERED PEOPLE AND THEN WE SEE THAT TOGETHER, THEY HAD 1.7 MILLION POUNDS OF TRASH REFUSE PICKED UP FROM ENCAMPMENTS IN THE LAST YEAR. HOW ARE THEY GETTING ALL THAT? WHERE'S IT COMING FROM? WELL, I CAN TELL YOU ONE THING I I THINK IT'S COMING FROM IS THE FACT THAT I SEE HOMELESS PEOPLE WILLING SHOPPING CARTS AROUND THE CITY NEARLY EVERY DAY, OR AT LEAST TWO OR THREE, FOUR TIMES A WEEK. AND, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS THEY'RE ABLE TO ACCUMULATE WHATEVER THEY THINK IS OF VALUE TO HELP THEM STAY HOMELESS, THEY'RE STAYING HOMELESS. AND I THINK ONE THING WE NEED TO CONSIDER IS NOT ENABLING THEM TO STAY HOMELESS BY GETTING THESE CARTS OFF THE SIDEWALKS AND OFF THE STREETS AND KEEPING THEM IN THE PROPERTIES THEY BELONG TO. AND SO, I'M WONDERING IF WE CAN'T LOOK AT A WAY OF BANNING SHOPPING CARTS FROM SIDEWALKS AND STREETS, UH, SO THAT THE HOMELESS PEOPLE CAN'T KEEP BUILDING ENCAMPMENTS EVERYWHERE THEY WANT TO. AND US KEEP SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY TO TEAR 'EM DOWN. AND MAYBE IT WOULD ENCOURAGE THEM TO COME FORWARD AND GET MORE SERIOUS HELP THAN JUST GETTING ANOTHER SHOPPING CART, FILLING IT UP AND BUILDING ANOTHER ENCAMPMENT SOMEWHERE. SO I'D LIKE TO SEE THE, UH, EFFORT TO, TO SINCERELY LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE REALLY THAT THAT DOES ENABLE THEM. THEY CAN PACK HUNDREDS OF POUNDS OF STUFF IN THERE EVERY WEEK AND TAKE IT OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE AND BUILD THEMSELVES A PLACE TO LIVE FOR THE NEXT MONTH UNTIL WE FIND IT AND TEAR IT DOWN. UH, SO ONE OTHER THING IS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE ENCAMPMENTS, UM, THE SAN ANTONIO RIVER AUTHORITY HAS JUST ANNOUNCED A MAJOR PLAN TO GO AHEAD AND TRY AND KEEP TRASH OUT OF THE DRAINAGE AREAS OUT OF THE CREEKS AND OUT OF THE RIVER BASIN. AND I THINK WE NEED TO PARTNER WITH THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE IN HELPING US FIND SOME PROGRAMMING TO KEEP THOSE CREEK BEDS, UH, FREE AND CLEAR OF TRASH AND GARBAGE THAT THE HOMELESS ARE BRINGING OUT THERE TO KEEP OUR WATER SAFE AND BETTER. SO I'M WONDERING IF THEY CAN'T PARTNER WITH THIS EFFORT ON ENCAMPMENT ABATEMENT ALONG THE LINE. SO THOSE ARE REALLY JUST COMMENTS, BUT I HOPE THEY'LL BE GIVEN SOME CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. THE OTHER THING I WANT TO TALK [02:10:01] ABOUT ON SS A P D, UH, AND I MAY NOT HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO REALLY GO INTO IT, BUT, UH, I APPRECIATE THE REPORT YOU'VE PUT FORWARD. I'VE BEEN SAYING EVER SINCE I GOT ON COUNCIL THAT I FELT WE NEEDED MORE, UH, SWORN POLICE OFFICERS ON THE STREETS AND DOING WHAT WE NEED IN A WAY OF PUBLIC SAFETY. AND I'M PLEASED TO SEE THAT THE RECOMMENDATION YOU'RE MAKING IS FOR ADDITIONAL POLICE OFFICERS. 360 IS A NUMBER. UH, OF COURSE, IT COULD BE A FEW MORE, COULD BE A FEW LESS. IT'S ALWAYS BASED ON HOW MANY WE HAVE. UH, BUT RIGHT NOW I THINK WE HAVE, UH, 2,580 OR SO. UH, AND THAT'S THE AUTHORIZATION. AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDING 360, WHICH WOULD, YOU KNOW, BE PUTTING US OVER 2,900 POTENTIALLY IN THREE OR FOUR OR FIVE YEARS. OKAY. UH, HOW ARE WE GONNA PAY FOR 'EM ALL? BECAUSE MY ESTIMATE IS THAT'LL COST US $45 MILLION BY YEAR FOUR OR FIVE TO ADD 360 ADDITIONAL OFFICERS ON TOP OF WHAT WE ALREADY PAY THE OFFICERS WE HAVE TODAY. AND I, I SAY THAT NUMBER 'CAUSE I THINK IT'S GONNA BE PRETTY ACCURATE, PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT, UH, A RENEGOTIATION OF A POLICE CONTRACT IN THE NEXT THREE OR FOUR YEARS. UH, AND I THINK THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO BE AWARE THAT THAT'S A TARGET THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IF WE'RE GONNA BE ADDING 350 MORE POLICE OFFICERS OR 360 OVER THE NEXT FOUR OR FIVE YEARS. UM, BUT I DIDN'T HEAR YOU TALK ANYTHING ABOUT PARK POLICE OR AIRPORT POLICE. AND I'VE HEARD THE PARK POLICE NEED MORE OFFICERS TOO. UH, SO, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC SAFETY IS A BIGGER, UH, UM, UNDERTAKING. UH, AND SO, YOU KNOW, I, I'D REALLY LIKE US TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE WHERE IT'S GONNA COME FROM AND HOW WE CAN ACTUALLY GET THOSE PEOPLE TRAINED. RIGHT NOW, UH, CITY MANAGER SAID WE'RE GONNA HAVE THREE ADDITIONAL CLASSES, AND IF WE HAVE 60 PEOPLE IN A CLASS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A HUNDRED PERCENT GRADUATION, WE HAVE MAYBE 80%, SOMETIMES 75%. YOU KNOW, SO WE MIGHT ADD OUTTA THREE CLASSES, 140, 150 POLICE OFFICERS, BUT WE'RE BEHIND A HUNDRED RIGHT NOW BELOW OUR STAFFING LEVEL. WE GOT 75 WHO COULD GO AHEAD AND RETIRE THIS YEAR THAT WE THINK MAY, I DON'T SEE HOW WE'RE GONNA CATCH UP BY JUST ADDING ANOTHER A HUNDRED. AND HOW ARE WE GONNA TRAIN THEM, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE GONNA TRAIN THE 150 AND THREE CLASSES AND THEN ADD ANOTHER A HUNDRED? OR I WOULD RATHER SEE US 120 SO THAT WE GET 360 IN THREE YEARS. SO I'D LIKE TO HEAR AN EXPLANATION OF, OF THAT PROCESS TO MAKE THIS THIS TARGET HAPPEN. LET, LET ME, LET ME, UM, THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF, THERE'S STILL A LOT OF WORK WE HAVE TO DO, RIGHT? AND THEN WE'RE WE, THIS IS, THIS IS TO GENERATE CONVERSATION AND TO GET THE COUNCIL READY FOR NEXT WEEK. THAT, UM, THAT, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE TARGET OF 360 THAT DR. WEISS CAME UP WITH ASSUMES THAT, THAT, THAT WE ALL BUY OFF ON, THAT THE COUNCIL BUYS OFF ON MM-HMM. THE ASSUMPTION OF A 40% ON TIME AND 60% PROACTIVE TIME. AND SO I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT ELEMENT THAT WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO REMEMBER IF THE COUNCIL UNDER, IF THE COUNCIL AGREES FROM A POLICY DIRECTION THAT THAT OUGHT TO BE OUR TARGET, WELL THEN WE'LL FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THERE. BUT IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE BALANCED. WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD IT, NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE ABLE TO TRAIN AND STAFF UP. AND THOSE ASPECTS ARE CRITICAL THAT WE'LL FIGURE OUT. BUT, BUT IT, YOU, WHAT, WHAT I'M, WHAT I THINK WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR AS WE GO CLOSER TO THE SUMMER IS IF THE COUNCIL IS IN AGREEMENT THAT THAT 40 60 SPLIT MAKES SENSE. IT DOES FROM THE STANDPOINT OF CALL LOAD AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE OFFICERS INVOLVED PROACTIVELY, BUT ALSO VISIBLE. UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, COUNCILMAN, THE, THE, THE, THE CADET CLASSES, WE, WE HAVE, UM, WE, WE, WE WILL BE, WE'LL BE AT STAFFING THIS YEAR. I'M NOT, I'M NOT CONCERNED WITH THE 70 VACANCIES WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A CLASS OF 60 TO 65 THAT'LL START AT THE END OF THE MONTH. WE'LL BE AT 10 VACANCIES AT THE END OF THE MONTH. UH, 8, 9, 10 OF THOSE WILL DROP OUT IN THE ACADEMY. WE'RE STILL UP BELOW 20, UM, COMPARED TO OTHER MAJOR CITIES IN THIS COUNTRY AND IN THIS STATE, WE DON'T. WE'RE, WE'RE DOING GOOD. AND, AND AS LONG AS WE CONTINUE TO FUND AND MAKE THROUGH THE, AND THINK THROUGH OPERATIONALLY HOW WE'RE GONNA TRAIN THOSE INDIVIDUALS, UM, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT, THAT WE STARTED WORKING ON FIVE YEARS AGO TO GET OUT OF A [02:15:01] HOLE WE PUT OURSELVES IN. SO I'M CONFIDENT IN THAT WE MAY HAVE TO MAKE, WE MAY HAVE TO ADD SOME RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT AT THE ACADEMY, BUT IF THE TARGET IS THAT OVER THREE TO FIVE YEARS, THEN WE'LL DO THAT AND WE'LL LAY OUT THOSE, THE, THE, THE NECESSARY RESOURCES TO THE COUNCIL IF IT'S A PRIORITY OF, AND, AND, AND WE THINK IT IS AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED LAST WEEK AND THIS WEEK ALREADY ABOUT, ABOUT AVAILABILITY AND RESOURCES. HAVING AN OFFICER, A PATROL OFFICER AVAILABLE FOR NEIGHBORHOOD ISSUES OR MEDIATION OR BEING PROACTIVE TAKES CARE OF U T S A HOTSPOT POTENTIALLY, OR OTHER HOTSPOTS DOWN THE ROAD. UM, A DELA CASE, UM, A HIGH, UH, A HIGH UTILIZER, UM, UM, WHERE WE'RE GETTING A, A SLEW OF MENTAL HEALTH CALLS WHERE WE CAN IDENTIFY THOSE THINGS AND THERE ARE EFFICIENCIES. 'CAUSE IF WE CAN, IF WE CAN RESOLVE LONG-TERM A HOUSE THAT'S GENERATED 809 1 1 CALLS, THAT'S ABOUT, THAT'S ABOUT 60% OF THE AVERAGE CALL LOAD FROM A PATROL OFFICER FOR A STANDPOINT. SO THERE'S A LOT OUT IN THE MIX THERE. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT ALL COMES DOWN TO WHAT THE COUNCIL'S PRIORITIES ARE AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN AFFORD IT. AND THAT, AND THERE ARE OTHER PRIORITIES OTHER THAN PUBLIC SAFETY AND, AND WE ALL GET THAT AND, AND MAKING SURE THAT WE STRIKE THAT BALANCE. I THINK I, THE LAST THING I'LL SAY, AND I'M SORRY I PROBABLY TOOK UP THE LAST PART OF YOUR TIME, BUT, BUT THE, THE, THE LAST THING I'LL SAY IS THAT AS WE GO INTO NEXT YEAR'S CONVERS OR NEXT WEEK'S CONVERSATION, YES, IT'S FOR THE BUDGET FOR 2024, BUT THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO AND SET IN MOTION AND GET THERE OVER A TWO OR THREE YEAR PERIOD, UM, KIND OF LIKE WE'RE DOING WITH ARPA. AND, AND WE DIDN'T TRY TO DO EVERYTHING WITH ARPA AT ONCE. WE BUILT THAT FRAMEWORK. YOU GUYS TOLD US WHAT THE RESULTS THAT YOU WANTED, AND THEN WE LAID OUT THE PROGRAMS AND OPTIONS TO GET THOSE RESULTS. AND POLICE IS A GOOD EXAMPLE, UH, OF HOW WE WON'T BE ABLE TO DO IT ALL AT ONCE 'CAUSE WE WON'T BE ABLE TO AFFORD IT. I HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN THE NUMBERS AND WE HAVEN'T SHOWED YOU THE MID-YEAR. WE WON'T BE ABLE TO AFFORD IT ALL AT ONCE. BUT HOW DO WE GET THERE OVER TIME WITH THE RESULTS THAT YOU GUYS WANT? THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE FOR NOW TO COUNCIL MEMBER CASTILLO. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, THANK YOU TO EVERYONE FOR THE PRESENTATIONS. AND I WANTED TO START OFF WITH THE GOOD NEIGHBOR PROGRAM AND EXPRESSED MY GRATITUDE AND THANKS TO MARIA, UM, SHANNON SIMS, UH, MICHAEL SHANNON, ERIC, AND, UH, ALL THE TEAM LEADS WHO HELPED DEVELOP THIS GOOD NEIGHBOR PLAN AND WORKING WITH URGENCY TO ENSURE THAT WE CREATED A MULTI-PRONGED APPROACH TO ENSURE THAT WE MITIGATE, UM, THINGS HAPPENING THAT HAPPENED ON DELA FROM HAPPENING AGAIN. RIGHT. UM, AND I APPRECIATE THAT YOU ACKNOWLEDGED AND POINTED TO, UM, THE SAN ANTONIO FIRE DEPARTMENT'S, UM, FREQUENT CALLER, UM, PLAN THAT THEY CURRENTLY OPERATE WITHIN, MAKING CONTACT WITH THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO, UH, FREQUENTLY CALL FIRE. UM, BECAUSE I I, I, I WOULDN'T WANT TO REINVENT THE WHEEL WHEN THERE'S ALREADY SOMEONE IN THE DEPARTMENT ALREADY DOING THAT. I ALSO VALUE TAKING THE APPROACH OF ENGAGING AND VIEWING THE CALL LIST, UH, TO DETERMINE WHAT TEAM IS GOING TO GO OUT THERE AND INTERACT. RIGHT. AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE, UM, IN REVIEWING THE PRESENTATION, UH, I, I THINK A LOT ABOUT THE WORK THAT MARK CARMONA AND LIZ HAVE DONE WITH THE OPERATION REBUILD PILOT PROGRAM, RIGHT? AND BRINGING IN A SOCIAL WORKER TO DO CASE MANAGEMENT WITH THOSE FAMILIES WHOSE HOME WERE ON THE DEMOLITION LIST, RIGHT? AND SOMETIMES THOSE DEMOLITION HOMES, UH, ARE ONE CALL AWAY FROM BEING ON THE DART LIST, RIGHT? UM, SO HAVING THAT NEEDS ASSESSMENT TAKEN PLACE SO THAT WAY, UM, WE GET TO THE ROOT CAUSES OF WHY INDIVIDUALS ARE HAVING 9 1 1 3 1 1, UH, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT CALLED THERE A NUMBER OF TIMES. SO I, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT APPROACH. UM, MY, MY ONE QUESTION, RIGHT? AND THIS KIND OF TIES INTO THE PD STUDY, IS I, I GUESS WE'RE, I HAVE A QUESTION. IS I, AGAIN, I'M PLEASED RIGHT, THAT WE'RE GOING TO PULL IN POTENTIALLY THE MENTAL HEALTH UNIT, M I H OR WHATEVER THE CORE TEAM, RIGHT? BUT I'M, I'M THINKING ABOUT CAPACITY OF, YOU KNOW, THE MENTAL HEALTH UNIT OF THE M I H TEAM, OF THE SA CORE TEAM. DO WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY HERE WITHIN THE PROPOSAL TO INCREASE CAPACITY FOR THOSE BUCKETS, RIGHT? WHETHER IT'S, UH, THE MOBILE AND INTEGRATED HEALTH UNIT, THE SA CORE TEAM, HOW CAN WE ENSURE THAT, UM, THEY'RE AT CAPACITY, UM, HAVE THE CAPACITY RATHER? SURE. SO FOR THE SA COURT, UH, YOU MAY RECALL THAT THEY ADOPTED BUDGET INCLUDES A, A $2 MILLION RESERVE THAT, UH, WE WILL BE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COUNCIL AND HOW UTILIZE THAT TO INCREASE THE CAPACITY OF SA COURT. MM-HMM. . SO SHE ANSWER IS YES. UM, IN ADDITION, WHAT, UM, THE C M E MANAGER MENTIONED THE THREE PLUS MILLION DOLLARS THAT WERE SET ASIDE FOR COMMUNITY SAFETY INITIATIVES THAT YOU ALL, UM, APPROVED, UM, UM, ALMOST A MONTH AGO. THOSE ARE RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE THAT WILL HELP US, UM, ENHANCE SOME OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE. OKAY. AND THEN IN FORMS OF COMMUNICATION, RIGHT? WHAT WE LEARNED IS THAT WE ALL USE DIFFERENT DATABASES AND WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY [02:20:01] SHARING INFORMATION 'CAUSE WE'RE ALL BUSY, YOU KNOW, DOING OUR CASES. UM, WHAT DOES THAT COMMUNICATION LOOK LIKE? I KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE A STAKEHOLDER COMMITTEE, BUT IS THERE CONVERSATION ABOUT POTENTIALLY PURCHASING A NEW DATABASE WHERE WE CAN ALL SHARE THAT INFORMATION? UM, SO THAT WAY, UM, WE'RE NOT HAVING TO REACH OUT TO JOE FRANK EVERY TIME TO ASK LIKE, HEY, WHAT'S UP WITH THIS HOUSE? OR, YOU KNOW, THAT WAY WE CAN LOOK IN TO WHY CASES ARE CLOSED. IS THAT SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING INTO? SO, UM, THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE WORK OF MARIA VARGAS, WHO I'M GONNA ASK HER TO STAND UP. SHE'S DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB IN COMBINING ALL THE CALL INFORMATION INTO ONE TOOL. THAT IS A TOOL THAT WE, WE HAVE BEEN USING, UM, THANK YOU TO, TO MARIA FOR DOING THAT. SO, UH, WE ARE COMBINING THOSE CALLS, THE 3 1 1, THE NINE ONE ONES, AND AN EMERGENCY TO BE ABLE TO DO THE ANALYSIS TO BE ABLE TO GET TO THE POINT THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE DISPOSITION OF THOSE CALLS. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO, UM, DETERMINE WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST TECHNOLOGY TO USE TO CONSOLIDATE ALL OF OUR EFFORTS INTO ONE PLACE. OKAY. THANK YOU. BECAUSE, AND, AND GREAT WORK, UH, THAT'S AN AMAZING TOOL. I KNOW, UH, MY CONSTITUENT SERVICES TEAM HAS BEEN ASKING FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, RIGHT? ON WHY CASES ARE CLOSED AND WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT CASE LOOK LIKE WHEN THEY GO DO A, A HOUSE VISIT, A SITE VISIT, UM, BUT, UH, ULTIMATELY, RIGHT? I, I WANNA PIVOT NOW TO THE, THE S A P D STUDY. UM, WHAT I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE SEEN, AND I UNDERSTAND THERE WAS A TRAGIC INCIDENT AND THE, THE, THE AUTHOR OF THIS STUDY PASS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE BEFORE WE MAKE ANY LARGE BUDGET DECISIONS, TO HAVE A HOLISTIC APPROACH, RIGHT? AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS I'M INTERESTED IN SEEING WHAT DOES A STAFF ANALYSIS LOOK LIKE FOR THE HOMICIDE UNIT, RIGHT? WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE FOR EACH UNIT WITHIN SS A P D? BECAUSE, UM, WHAT I'M HEARING FROM CONSTITUENTS IS THAT THEY ARE REPORTING THINGS TO 9 1 1, THEY HAVE A CASE NUMBER, BUT THEIR DETECTIVES SOMETIMES CAN BE AT CAPACITY, RIGHT? MM-HMM. . AND IF WE HAVE A HUNDRED MORE OFFICERS ON THE STREET, THAT'S MORE CASES. UM, AND I WANNA ENSURE THAT WE'RE, UM, PUTTING THE POSITIONS TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE MINIMIZING THE CASELOAD AND WORKING THROUGH THOSE CASES. YEAH. SO THAT WAS ORIGINALLY IN SCOPE WITH THIS CONSULTANT MM-HMM. , UM, BUT AS YOU MENTIONED IS UNFORTUNATE PASSING. UM, HE WAS ONLY ABLE TO COMPLETE THE PATROL PART OF THAT MM-HMM. . AND SO, UH, WE'RE LOOKING RIGHT NOW TO CONTRACT WITH, UM, ANOTHER CONSULTANT TO FINISH THAT WORK MM-HMM. IN THE INVESTIGATIVE UNITS MM-HMM. . AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE STILL HAVE PENDING. OKAY. YES. 'CAUSE I, I WOULD LIKE TO REVIEW ALL THE PIECES, RIGHT. BEFORE MAKING A LARGE BUDGET COMMITMENT. AND FOR EXAMPLE, UM, WITH A HUNDRED OFFICERS, ARE THEY ALREADY, HAVE YOU ALL, OR CHIEF, HAVE YOU IDENTIFIED WHICH UNIT THEY'RE GOING TO BE, UH, WORKING UNDER? AND I ASKED PRIMARILY BECAUSE MY CONSTITUENTS CONTINUALLY, UH, ARE ASKING FOR MORE SAFE OFFICERS. AND I SEE IT IN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETINGS THAT THEY ARE AT CAPACITY, UM, AND EVERYTHING GETS, UH, THEY GET A LOT OF QUESTIONS, RIGHT? AND THEY HAVE A LOT TO TACKLE AND THEY HAVE A LARGE CASELOAD. SO WITH THESE A HUNDRED OFFICERS, UH, ARE YOU CONSIDERING HIRING MORE SAFE OFFICERS UNDER THAT A HUNDRED OFFICERS? WELL, YES. THE ANSWER IS YES. THE, THE, WE'RE NOT JUST GONNA TAKE A HUNDRED OFFICERS AND, AND DROP THEM IN PATROL AND GO ABOUT BUSINESS AS USUAL. MM-HMM. PART OF THE GRANT, OR PART OF THE REQUIREMENT OF THE GRANT FROM DOJ MM-HMM. , IS THAT THEY, THEY WORK IN A, IN A CERTAIN AREA. I THINK THERE'S WHAT FIVE AREAS? FIVE OR SIX, FIVE OR SIX AREAS THAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO WORK IN, YOU KNOW, VIOLENT CRIME, UH, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, THOSE, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. SO, SO SOME OF THEM WILL BE DEDICATED BASED ON THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE GRANT. AND SAFE IS A, IS AN AREA THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO BEEF UP BECAUSE OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY'S NEED OR DESIRE TO HAVE MORE SAFE OFFICERS. YES. AND THEN ON, UH, THE OTHER END, RIGHT, WITH THE GOOD NEIGHBOR PROGRAM, I BELIEVE THE SECOND HOUSE HAS MENTAL HEALTH CAUSE RIGHT? SO WITHIN THOSE A HUNDRED OFFICERS, ARE YOU CONSIDERING INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF MENTAL HEALTH OFFICERS AND GROWING THAT PROGRAM? WE HAVE YET TO SIT DOWN AND DETERMINE EXACTLY WHERE THEY'RE GONNA GO, BUT, BUT WE'VE HAD PRELIMINARY CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT MM-HMM. , BUT THAT'LL BE WORKED OUT LATER ON AS WE, AS WE'RE, WE GET THE OKAY TO HIRE THESE FOLKS. OKAY. BECAUSE AS I CONTINUE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH, UH, RESIDENTS, RIGHT? MANY OF FEEL COMFORTABLE SHARING, UH, PERTINENT INFORMATION ONLY TO THEIR SAFE OFFICER, RIGHT? THEY DON'T WANNA TALK TO ANY OTHER OFFICER, JUST THE ONE THAT THEY'VE BUILT THAT RELATIONSHIP WITH. AND I FEEL THAT THAT'S HOW WE'RE ABLE TO TACKLE THOSE, UH, ISSUES WITHIN NEIGHBORHOODS. UM, BUT ALSO PARTICIPATING IN THE RIDE ALONG WITH THE MENTAL HEALTH UNIT AND SEEING THE INTERACTION OF THE FAMILIES AND THEM BEING IN TEARS OF HOW GRATEFUL THEY ARE OF THAT TEAM GOING IN, CHECKING IN, PROVIDING RESOURCES, UM, AND REMINDING THEM OF THEIR NEXT APPOINTMENT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT, UM, I, I KNOW MANY OF MY CONSTITUENTS, UH, REALLY NEED. RIGHT. AND AGAIN, THERE'S THE CORE TEAM THAT'S ALSO JUST AS GREAT, BUT I WANNA BE SURE WHILE WE'RE HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, UH, INCREASING POLICING, WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT THE FACETS IN THE UNITS THAT, UM, ARE BEYOND REGULAR PATROL, RIGHT? UM, THOSE ARE ALL KEY [02:25:01] PIECES, BUT THERE ARE KEY FACETS LIKE THE MENTAL HEALTH UNIT, UM, THE SA CORE TEAM WHERE, UM, I, I THINK THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT WE SHOULD BE MOVING IN. UM, BUT MY NEXT QUESTION, ERIC, IS, OR FOR MARIA IS WITHIN THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUDGET, HOW MUCH IS FOR S A P D AND HOW MUCH IS FOR THE SAN ANTONIO FIRE DEPARTMENT? JUSTINA'S GONNA GET THAT INFORMATION VERY QUICKLY. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. THE MAJORITY IS A POLICE DEPARTMENT OUT OF THE 66%, 529 MILLION. SO 529 MILLION IS A POLICE BUDGET AND 354 MILLION IS A FIRE DEPARTMENT BUDGET. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND I ASKED BECAUSE RIGHT, IN THE INSTANCE THAT WE DO NOT RECEIVE THE GRANT, HOW IS THAT GOING TO IMPACT THE 66%? AND I KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE CLOSURE OF THE HOSPITAL IN THE SOUTH SIDE AND KNOWING THAT NOT EVERY FIRE STATION HAS E M S RIGHT? AND THE NEED TO EXPAND E M S TO HAVE ACCESS, UH, TO THESE HOSPITALS THAT ARE A FURTHER DISTANCE, I WANNA BE SURE THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD, UM, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE PUTTING SPECIFIC DEPARTMENTS IN A POSITION WHERE WE EXCEED THAT 66%. UM, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WANT US TO BE COGNIZANT OF. RIGHT. UM, TO COUNCILMAN CURTIS'S POINT, WE WILL BE HAVING C B A CONVERSATIONS WITH PD AGAIN IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS. AND THEN WE'LL ALSO BE HAVING IT WITH OUR FIREFIGHTERS. AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UM, NO ONE'S GETTING THE SHORT OF END OF THE STICK WHEN IT COMES TO MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE RECEIVING THEIR FAIR SHARE OF BENEFITS. SURE. AND, AND GOOD POINT, COUNCILWOMAN, TODAY, TODAY'S PRESENTATION WAS, UH, FOCUSED ON GIVING YOU AN AN UPDATE ON THE STAFFING STUDY THAT WAS DONE FOR POLICE. UH, BUT NEXT WEEK YOU'LL SEE IN ON THE PACKET THAT WE'LL SEND YOU ON FRIDAY THAT FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WE ARE RECOMMENDING ADDING AN E M S UNIT. AND THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FIVE-YEAR PLAN THAT WE PRESENTED LAST YEAR. AND THEN FOR 2025 ON THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SIDE, WE'RE ALSO, UH, RECOMMENDING THAT WE ADD A PLATFORM UNIT AS WELL. SO THERE'S ALSO, UH, RESOURCES NOT PRESENTED TODAY, BUT WE'LL PRESENT THOSE NEXT WEEK. THANK YOU, MARIA. MAY I HAVE ONE MORE POINT, IF I MAY? UM, RIGHT. UH, GOING BACK TO THE GOOD NEIGHBOR PROGRAM AND THE PRESENTATION THAT ANIMAL CARE SERVICE GAVE, UH, LAST WEEK, UM, WITH THEIR STAFFING NEEDS, UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS JUST A RECOMMENDATION, BUT CAN YOU REMIND ME WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION WAS FOR, UM, ANIMAL CARE SERVICE OFFICERS? COUNCILMAN, WE'LL CIRCLE BACK WITH YOU, UM, TO GET THAT NUMBER FOR YOU. OKAY. I MEAN, IS THERE A EASILY ACCESSIBLE NUMBER? IF NOT, WE CAN CIRCLE BACK, BUT IF YOU ALREADY GOT IT, THEN GO AHEAD, SHANNON. SORRY, SIR. UH, YES, MA'AM. SO RIGHT NOW WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE LEANED FORWARD, UH, BASICALLY, AND WE'RE IN A PROCESS OF OVER HIRING FROM CURRENT AND EXPECTATION, YOU KNOW, TO, TO GET TO THAT OCTOBER BUDGET TIMEFRAME. AND, UH, RIGHT NOW WE'RE ANTICIPATING FOUR MORE BITES OFFICERS, TWO MORE DANGEROUS OFFICERS. UH, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE OUR, UH, OUR CASA CANVASSING TEAM THAT WE'VE, THAT WE'VE INITIATED THROUGH IMMEDIATE ACTION. MM-HMM. . OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SHANNON. THANK YOU. YES, THANK YOU SHANNON. MAYOR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTILE. GO AHEAD, ERIC. JUST ONE THING THAT, UM, AND, AND ALONG THE LINES OF, UM, UH, WHAT COUNCILWOMAN CASTILE WAS TALKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY, UH, REGARDING SAFE AND THE MENTAL HEALTH UNIT, IF THOSE ARE PRIORITY AREAS THAT, THAT ARE IRRESPECTIVE OF, OF THE STAFFING OF THE ANALYSIS, IF THOSE ARE PRIORITY AREAS FOR THE COUNCIL, THAT'S HELPFUL FOR US TO HEAR. BUT, BUT I DO WANT TO, I DO WANT TO, UM, SAY THAT IF WE ADDED, UM, OFFICERS TO UNITS NOT PATROL, THEN WE WOULD NOT BE MAKING ANY PROGRESS TOWARDS THE SIX, THE 40 60 RECOMMENDATION THAT WE GOT FROM DR. WEISS, BECAUSE THAT IS REALLY DIRECTED TOWARDS PATROL OFFICERS. BUT IT IS HELPFUL FOR US TO KNOW THAT IF, IF THERE ARE SPECIFIC AND, AND SAFE, ALL OF Y'ALL TALK ABOUT SAFE ALL THE TIME. I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S A HUGELY CRITICAL PART OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE CONNECTION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS. BUT ADDING A SAFE OFFICER WON'T NECESSARILY IMPACT THAT 40 60 MEASUREMENT. AND I THINK IT'S JUST A GOOD REMINDER FOR EVERYBODY. BUT I KNOW THOSE OTHER AREAS ARE IMPORTANT. GREAT. THANK YOU. WE'LL COME BACK TO IT. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTILLO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER VIEGA. UH, THANK YOU. SO I'M GONNA START WITH THE UPDATE ON THE POLICE STAFFING ANALYSIS BECAUSE IT'S ONE THING I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR, I THINK SINCE I STARTED HERE ON CITY COUNCIL. UM, I AM IN SUPPORT OF THE 100 COMING BASED ON THE 60 40, I THINK THE 360 NEW OFFICERS. I THINK WHAT YOU'RE GONNA HEAR FROM MY CONSTITUENTS AT LEAST [02:30:01] IS THEY WANT 400 OFFICERS. WHY DON'T WE JUST ROUND UP THAT NUMBER? UM, NOT ONLY, I, I DO APPRECIATE THE STUDY THAT HE TOOK, BUT I DON'T WANNA MISS THE MOMENT THAT WE ARE LOSING OFFICERS BECAUSE OF THE STRESS OF THIS JOB. AND THEY DO NOT HAVE THE LUXURY OF BEING ON A CALL AND JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M, I GOT, I GOTTA TAKE MENTAL HEALTH REST. 'CAUSE THEIR EXPECTATION IS THAT THEY GET TO THAT NEXT CALL BECAUSE THOSE ARE MY RESIDENT'S EXPECTATIONS. SO PART OF THIS REASON IS NOT JUST BECAUSE MY CONSTITUENTS WANT TO SEE, UH, MORE VISIBILITY, IS THAT WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING FOR THE PERSONNEL. AND IT IS PATROL PERSONNEL THAT IS IMPACTED THE MOST. I FEEL. AND AND I'M NOT SAYING I KNOW INVESTIGATORS HAVE A HARD TIME OF IT TOO, BUT I THINK THAT, THAT, THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THIS PRIORITY. SO I'M LOOKING TO MAKING SURE THAT WE FOCUS, UM, ON PATROL, MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN PROVIDE THEM THAT. UM, AND IT SOUNDS FUNNY FOR POLICE LIFE WORK BALANCE THAT THEY KIND OF NEED BECAUSE IT, IT'S REALLY HARD FOR THEM TO TURN IT OFF. BUT I THINK WE NEED TO WORK ON THAT AND, AND MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE CORRECTLY STAFFED IS KEY. UM, SO I'M, I'M IN SUPPORT FOR THIS. UM, I THINK MARIA, AT PUBLIC SAFETY, WE PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE A LARGER DISCUSSION ABOUT OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND TAKE A LOOK AT PARK AND AIRPORT, UM, THAT, THAT HAVE THAT POLICE TITLE, BUT UNDERSTAND THAT THEY DON'T, THEY THEY, AND THEN THEY SIT SOMEWHERE IN THIS PUBLIC SAFETY BUDGET, BUT NOT, SO I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. IF YOU COULD BRING THAT TO THE BUDGET SESSION SO WE CAN HAVE THE CONVERSATION OF THAT. BECAUSE I THINK, I THINK WE CAN SEE MORE PEOPLE COME. I JUST THINK THAT WE NEED TO, UM, MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THE SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, OFFERS OPPORTUNITY, UH, FOR ADVANCEMENT OF COURSE, IF THEY CHOOSE AND, AND OFFERS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY. I WAS ABLE TO GO ON THE FIELD TRIP WITH, UM, COUNCILMAN KEO HDA AND, AND COUNCILMAN BRAVO TO THE ACADEMY. AND WE, WE TALKED TO THE ACADEMY CLASS. I WAS ABLE TO TALK TO THE ACADEMY CLASS AND UM, IT WAS A REALLY GOOD SIZE CLASS AND I, I WAS ENCOURAGING THEM TO STICK WITH IT. I KNOW THAT, UM, THE, THE, THE PHYSICAL PART, THE PT PART OF IT IS THE HARDEST PART, BUT I TOLD 'EM YOU CAN DO THAT. IT, IT, THIS IS GOING TO, TO TO, UH, IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE HARD, BUT IT'S, IT'S WORTH IT. AND THEN THE, BUT THE OTHER THING IS UNDERSTANDING THAT IF, IF WE ARE FULLY STAFFED LIKE WE SHOULD BE, THEN IT, IT COULD BE EASIER FOR THEM TO KIND OF TAKE THAT DAY IF THEY NEED THAT OR GET THAT HELP AND, AND ADDRESSING THOSE ISSUES. SO THE ONE THING QUESTION I DO HAVE WAS WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE SS A P D PRIORITY CRIME PREVENTION, WHY WAS IT DOWNTOWN VISIBILITY IN ENFORCEMENT? UH, WHY WAS DOWNTOWN THE ONLY LOCATION MENTIONED? WELL, THE, THE, THE 40 63 60 COVERS THE ENTIRE CITY. OKAY. AND SO, UM, DOWNTOWN IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT 'CAUSE YOU'VE GOT, IT'S PART OF THE CENTRAL SUBSTATION, BUT THEN IT'S ALSO FOOT AND BIKE PATROL. FOOT AND BIKE PATROL DOES NOT OPERATE LIKE ALL THE OTHER SUBSTATIONS. AND SO THAT'S PART ONE. PART TWO IS THAT I DO THINK THAT AS WE CONTINUE TO, WE, WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT DOWNTOWN FOOT AND BIKE PATROL. WE ADDED THREE OFFICERS TWO YEARS AGO. WE REALLY HAVE NOT CHANGED AND LOOKED AT, AT THE STAFFING DOWNTOWN. UM, AND UH, SOMETIMES IT GETS, IT GETS LUMPED INTO PATROL, BUT IT'S NEVER CALCULATED AS PART OF PATROL. AND WE, WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD PAY PARTICULAR ATTENTION TO IT. YEAH. IF, IF WE CAN DO THAT AND, AND HAVE THAT INFORMATION. UH, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE WORK AND THANK YOU MAN. THANK YOU FOR THOSE CAMERAS. WELL, THANKS. UM, SO THE NEXT, UH, WITH THE REST OF MY TIME, BECAUSE I'LL COME BACK WITH THE HOMELESS, UH, MARIA WITH THE GOOD NEIGHBOR PROGRAM. I AM, I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE, UM, THE KIND OF WHOLE LOOK THAT WE'RE GOING TO THIS HOLISTIC LOOK WHERE WE TALK ABOUT, UM, THE NON-EMERGENCY AND THE 3 1 1. AND I SAW THAT YOU BROUGHT, YOU BROKE DOWN THE NON-EMERGENCY WITH POLICE AND FIRE. BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO BREAK DOWN THE, UH, 3 1 1 CALLS BECAUSE THOSE ARE, ARE MY CODE CALLS, WHICH A LOT OF THEM HAVE TO DO WITH HOARDING. UM, AND A LOT OF 'EM HAVE TO DO WITH PARKING ON THE DRIVEWAY, WHICH THEN I THINK LEADS TO NON-EMERGENCY CALLS IF THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, FOUR VEHICLES AND TWO OF THOSE ARE, YOU KNOW, MUSCLE CARS. MAYBE WE KIND OF LOOK INTO THAT. SO THAT'S ONE THING I WOULD WANT TO SEE. [02:35:01] UH, THE OTHER THING IS, I, I MEAN I LOVE THE TEAM AND EVERYBODY THAT'S GOING TO BE PART OF IT, BUT I DON'T WANT Y'ALL TO FORGET IN TERMS OF THE TASK FORCE ABOUT THE COUNCIL OFFICES AND, UH, MY CONSTITUENT SERVICE DIRECTOR IN PARTICULAR, SAL VALDEZ, IF YOU GAVE HIM THOSE THREE ADDRESSES THAT SIT IN DISTRICT ONE, I BET YOU HE CAN GIVE YOU A WHOLE STORY AND NEIGHBORS TO TALK TO REGARDING THAT. SO I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO REACH OUT TO THE TEAM. UM, AND I'M REALLY INTERESTED ON THE THREE, I THINK IT'S JUST THREE IN MY DISTRICT, BUT, UM, WE PROBABLY HAVE A WHOLE STORY WE CAN TELL YOU ABOUT THEM. UM, THE OTHER, UM, KIND OF IN OUR PROPERTIES AND OUR CALL DETAILS, UM, IS THE CALL INITIATED FROM THE NEIGHBORS? ARE WE DISTINGUISHING HOW MANY NEIGHBORS ARE CALLING IN? BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE HAVE NEIGHBOR FEUDS AND THEY, LIKE, WE HAVE ONE THAT'S JUST CALLING IN ON EVERYBODY ALL THE TIME, OR ONE PERSON IN PARTICULAR. ARE WE IDENTIFYING WHO THE NEIGHBORS ARE THAT ARE CALLING, NOT NECESSARILY THE SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS, BUT WE ARE ANALYZING THE DATA TO FIGURE OUT WHICH CALLS ARE FROM WITHIN THE PROPERTY AND NEIGHBORS CALLING ABOUT THAT HOUSE. WHAT YOU MENTIONED IS SOMETHING THAT MICHAEL SHANNON MENTIONED TO ME THAT IN, IN THE CODE, UM, ENFORCEMENT SECTION, THERE ARE CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS THAT CONTINUALLY CALL ON THEIR NEIGHBORS. UM, SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TAKING INTO ACCOUNT. YEAH, AND WE'LL, I, I HAVE SOME, UM, RESIDENTS THAT ARE STICKLERS FOR CODE, SO THE MINUTE THAT GRASS GETS OVERGROWN, THEY'RE CALLING IN. SO THAT'S WHY I LIKE THE 12 CALLS WITHIN THREE MONTHS. BUT, UM, UNDERSTANDING THAT SOMETIMES PEOPLE ARE USING THAT 3 1 1 AND POLICE NON-EMERGENCY TO JUST, UM, TO JUST CAUSE TROUBLE FOR THEIR NEIGHBORS TOO. BUT IT LOOKS LIKE, THAT'S WHY I'M GLAD YOU STARTED WITH THE 20 AND THIS PILOT PROGRAM ON WHAT WE'RE GONNA SEE, BECAUSE I THINK WHAT WE, WE ARE GOING TO SEE IS, UM, REALLY A, UM, A A COMPONENT OF, OF HOW WE CAN MOVE THIS FORWARD. BUT I ALSO THINK THERE'S GONNA BE DISTRICT SPECIFIC SOLUTIONS AS WE GO FROM DISTRICT TO DISTRICT. I DO WANNA ADDRESS THE A C SS ISSUE BECAUSE AS MUCH AS, UM, WE NEED THEM AS PART OF THAT BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED, I, I AM STILL OF THE OPINION THAT KEY IS SPAY AND NEUTERING. AND I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK, AS WE TALK ABOUT BUDGET, PRIORITY PRIORITIES IS HIRING A VETERINARIAN AND VET TECHS FOR THE BROOKS CLINIC AND THEN MOVING TO THE FUTURE TO HAVE, UM, CLINICS IN, IN THESE HIGH AREAS WHERE ANIMALS ARE JUST INTACT AND NOT BEING TAKEN CARE OF BY THEIR, UM, BY THEIR OWNERS. THE OTHER THING, ANDY, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN LOOK INTO IS WHILE THEY ARE PROPERTY, IS THERE ANYTHING WITHIN THAT WE CAN DO LEGALLY THAT IF THIS, IF THIS ANIMAL KEEPS ON GETTING OUT, THEY REFUSE TO GET, GET THEM FIXED AND WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE CAUSING TROUBLE, IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO COMPEL THEM TO DO THAT OR TAKE THEM TO COURT BECAUSE THEY CONTINUE TO, UM, CAN THE CITY OR, OR DO WE NEED TO CREATE AN ORDINANCE THAT SAYS, THIS IS WHAT WE, THIS IS WHAT YOU DO. IF YOU HAVE AN INTACT ANIMAL, YOU NEED TO GET IT REGISTERED. YOU NEED TO DO THE, AND YOU WELL, YOU NEED TO BE UP TO DATE WITH ITS SHOTS AND THEN YOU HAVE TO REGISTER WITH US. WELL, RIGHT NOW THAT OUR KEY, UH, ENFORCEMENT TOOL IS WHAT WE HAVE UNDER STATE LAW IN TERMS OF DESIGNATING DANGEROUS DOGS COUNCILWOMAN. UH, AND THAT'S WHY IT'S KEY TO, TO DESIGNATE 'EM AS SUCH THAT, THAT GIVES US THE ENFORCEMENT TOOLS TO DO JUST THAT. UH, BUT SHORT OF THAT, WE, WE WOULD HAVE TO EITHER CHANGE STATE LAW OR COME UP WITH A PRETTY CREATIVE ORDINANCE TO GO BEYOND THAT. BECAUSE I, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT DANGEROUS DOGS. I'M TALKING ABOUT THOSE BREEDING DOGS. THOSE DOGS, OH, BREEDING DOGS THAT KEEP ON SO, SO COUNCILWOMAN. THERE, THERE ACTUALLY IS AN ASPECT OF THE ORDINANCE RIGHT NOW THAT IF YOUR ANIMAL'S CAPTURED FREE OF RESTRAINT, UH, OR IF YOU'RE CAUGHT ILLEGALLY BREEDING, THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT ANIMAL SPAYED OR NEUTERED. THE PROBLEM IS THERE'S NO, UH, TEETH IN IT. WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE TEETH IN IT FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF WE CAN SEIZE THAT ANIMAL AND DO IT OURSELVES. UM, ESSENTIALLY WE CAN WRITE THEM A CITATION IF THEY FAIL TO DO SO WITHIN 30 DAYS. YEAH. AND THAT, AND THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO LOOK INTO IS AS, AS WE LOOK AT THESE CALLS AND WE LOOK AT IT'S THE SAME DOG AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW ONE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT KEEPS ON GETTING OUT, UH, AND IF HE'S STILL INTACT THAT WE, WE JUST, AND, AND HE'S AN ESCAPE ARTIST 'CAUSE THEY DO HAVE A FENCE. WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT COUNCILWOMAN. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND I'LL CHIME BACK IN ABOUT THE OTHER THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER VIA GRANDE COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA. [02:40:02] THANK YOU MAYOR. AND THANK YOU, UM, TEAM FOR THE PRESENTATION. I, I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR WORK. I WANTED TO START OFF BY THE, WITH THE GOOD NEIGHBOR PROGRAM. UM, I KIND OF FREAKED OUT WHEN I SAW THE SLIDE THAT Y'ALL SENT OUT ON MONDAY BECAUSE THERE'S A HUNDRED AND OR 852 CALLS IN 90 DAYS AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE DISTRICT FOUR. AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO ZOOM IN. AND SO OFFLINE I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT ADDRESS, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, I TALKED TO THE MAYOR ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY. I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT THERE'S NO WAY OF FLAGGING THAT SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER SO THAT IT, IT MERITS A LITTLE BIT MORE ATTENTION. RIGHT. SO NINE CALLS A DAY TO ME IS SUCCESSIVE, RIGHT? WELL, I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I'M AVERAGING. UM, BUT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT LIKE, WHEN DO WE GET A HEADS UP? LIKE I NEED TO KNOW THAT MY RESIDENTS FEEL LIKE THEY'RE IN DANGER IF THEY'RE CALLING 852 TIMES. SO IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE COULD CONSIDER HOW THE SYSTEMS CAN TALK TO EACH OTHER AND MAYBE ALERT US AS COUNCIL MEMBERS SO THAT WE ARE KIND OF AWARE OF THE ISSUES IN THE AREA? UM, COUNCILMAN, I THINK WE CAN DO THAT IN TERMS OF, UM, 9 1 1 CALLS WITHIN YOUR DISTRICT, UM, WITH SOME RESTRICTIONS AS WE TALKED ABOUT. SOME OF THEM INCLUDE SOME, UM, MEDICAL RELATED TYPE OF CALLS. BUT, UM, LET ME, LET ME, UM, COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION. OKAY. BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR, YOUR REQUEST. THANK YOU. YES. BECAUSE I'M THINKING, WOW, I DROVE THROUGH THIS NEIGHBORHOOD LAST WEEK. LIKE I, IF I WOULD'VE KNOWN AT LEAST A, A STREET, LIKE I COULD HAVE CHECKED IT OUT MYSELF, RIGHT? AND SO, UM, OR JUST KIND OF BE SEEN IN, IN THE AREA TRYING TO TALK TO NEIGHBORS ABOUT WHAT THEY SEE WHEN I'M NOT AROUND OR WHEN MY TEAM'S NOT AROUND. SO THANK YOU. I I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. THAT JUST, IT JUST, LIKE I SAID, IT FREAKED ME OUT WHEN I SAW THAT NUMBER. I THOUGHT IT WAS A MISTAKE AT FIRST, AND SO I, I CHECKED WITH STAFF AND SO, UM, BUT THANK YOU. I, I APPRECIATE ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO. I, I DEFINITELY THINK THIS PROGRAM IS GONNA BE HELPFUL. YOU ALL HEARD ME SAY THIS. UM, AND ESPECIALLY IF WE GET NEIGHBORHOOD LEADER BUY-IN, RIGHT? AND SO PEOPLE TOO, TO TALK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT MORE, AND I AGREE WITH YOUR SLIDE FIVE VIOLATIONS MAY BE LOW IN PRIORITY FOR AN INDIVIDUAL CITY DEPARTMENT, BUT THE COMBINED IMPACT SUGGESTS A HIGHER PRIORITY. AND SO I THINK THAT IS, THAT IS TRUE OF, OF ANY CASE. SO, UM, THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING. UH, RITA BRADHAM IS HERE AND SHE'S OUR APPOINTEE FOR DISTRICT FOUR, AND SHE DOESN'T MISS A MEETING. SHE'S THE CHAIR AS WELL. SO THANK YOU FOR ALL OF OF YOUR HARD WORK AS WELL AS THE ENTIRE TEAM. UH, WHAT DOES A PROGRAM IN YOUR, UH, I GUESS IN, IN YOUR PERSPECTIVE, UM, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE ONCE IT'S ROLLED OUT? LIKE HOW WILL IT IMPROVE? LIKE, DO WE HAVE SOME, WHAT ARE OUR KPIS? HOW ARE WE MEASURING PROGRESS OR WILL WE MEASURE PROGRESS? RIGHT. SO MEASURING PROGRESS WOULD BE THE SAFETY WITHIN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, AND I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. UH, WORKING WITH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER CASTILLO, WHEN WE HAD THE DE CASE AND WE DID AN ANALYSIS OF THAT PARTICULAR HOME, UH, PRIOR TO THAT, THOSE INDIVIDUALS MOVING INTO THAT, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, THE NUMBER OF CALLS WERE MUCH LOWER, UM, AS THEY MOVED IN. AND AS WE TALKED TO THE NEIGHBORS IN THAT PARTICULAR BLOCK, THEY SHARE WITH US SOME OF THEIR CHALLENGES. SO THE SUCCESS WOULD BE TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT INDIVIDUAL INTO COMPLIANCE AND TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR TO THE REST OF THE, TO THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORS WITHIN THAT BLOCK. WELL, AND I APPRECIATE THAT. HOW MUCH, WHAT IS THE BUDGET, THE PROPOSED BUDGET? OR HAVE WE HAVEN'T FIGURED THAT OUT JUST YET. WE, WE DON'T HAVE A BUDGET YET. UM, AS I MENTIONED, WE'LL START WITH, UM, SOME LOW HANGING FRUIT. OKAY. LIKE USING SOME OF OUR EXISTING RESOURCES FOR ADDRESSES THAT HAVE A HIGH NUMBER OF MENTAL HEALTH CALLS, FOR EXAMPLE. AND, UH, WE'LL START THE PILOT PROGRAM IN JUNE ONE, AND WE HOPE TO COME BACK TO YOU AS PART OF THE PROPOSED BUDGET WITH MORE INFORMATION, UH, POTENTIALLY A BUDGET IF, UH, ADDITIONAL RESOURCES ARE NEEDED AND IF AN ORDINANCE IS NEEDED, UH, TO, TO START A CONVERSATION WITH A COUNCIL ON A POTENTIAL ORDINANCE. GOT IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH MONEY. I APPRECIATE IT. I, I THINK THIS IS PART OF COMMUNITY, RIGHT? AND SO TRYING TO GET THE COMMUNITY BEHIND THIS IS GONNA BE IMPORTANT. WILL THIS ALSO COME TO P C D C? IT'LL COME TO THE FULL COUNCIL AS PART OF BUDGET, FULL COUNCIL. GOT IT. YEAH. OKAY. AND THEN I'LL, I, I, I'M GONNA MOVE ON TO THE HOMELESS, UH, STRATEGIC PLAN UPDATE. AND YESTERDAY AFTER, UM, I GOT OUT OF THE UNIVERSITY, I TEACH LATE AND I HAD AN INDIVIDUAL APPROACH MY VEHICLE AND, UH, WAS A LITTLE UNRULY AT FIRST I THOUGHT HE WAS HURT, SO I ROLLED DOWN THE WINDOW 'CAUSE I THOUGHT I WAS GONNA HAVE TO CALL 9 1 1 TO GET HIM SOME HELP. UM, JOE FRANK HELPED WITH THE SITUATION WHEN I REALIZED THAT HE WAS PROBABLY REALLY DRUGGED UP AND HE GOT A LITTLE BIT, UM, JUST, YOU KNOW, HE JUST STARTED YELLING AND SAYING NONSENSE. UM, I WAS AFRAID THAT HE WOULD GO AFTER OTHER PEOPLE, AND HE DID, HE APPROACHED OTHER VEHICLES. SO JOE FRANK, UM, ASKED SOMEONE TO TAKE CARE OF IT. THE THE PERSON DID WAS NOT IN IMMEDIATE NEED OF ATTENTION AFTER ALL. AND SO [02:45:01] THEY, THEY TOOK CARE OF IT. SO I, I LIKE, I, I'M, I APPRECIATE THAT THEY HANDLED THIS, BUT THIS HAPPENS ALL OF THE TIME AND SOME PEOPLE DON'T CALL IT IN. AND SO I'M WONDERING, IS THERE SOME SORT OF, UM, SOME MESSAGING THAT WE COULD REMIND PEOPLE? I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW IF 9 1 1 WOULD BE THE RIGHT NUMBER TO CALL. SO THAT'S WHY I HAPPEN TO BE ON A CALL WITH JOE FRANK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE. IS THERE ANYWHERE ELSE WHERE SOMETHING LIKE THIS CAN BE REPORTED? LIKE IF WE SEE SOMEONE REGULARLY DOING THIS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS OR JUST 3 1 1 9 1 1. OKAY. JUST SO 9 1 1. OKAY. SO JUST DIRECTLY. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS, AND, AND LORI HOUSTON MENTIONED THIS, SO THANK YOU FOR, FOR MENTIONING THIS OPPORTUNITY. HOME AND HAVEN FOR HOPE HAVE BEEN PHENOMENAL. DURING THE WINTER HOLIDAYS, WE HAD 93 FAMILIES THAT CAME TO HAVEN FOR HOPE. THERE WAS AN OVERFLOW. OF THOSE 93 FAMILIES, 68 HAVE BEEN HOUSED THROUGH VOUCHERS, THANK YOU. OPPORTUNITY HOME OR IN THE PROCESS OF BEING HOUSED. AND THEY COMMITTED THROUGH THIS, THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE ROUND TABLE. UM, BUT WE HAVE A LOT MORE FAMILIES RIGHT, THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE GOING THROUGH THIS. AND SO, UM, I I, I DO THINK THAT THERE'S, IM, IT'S IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER THAT IT'S FAMILIES, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT GOES OVERLOOKED, I FEEL, OR MAYBE, UH, NOT NECESSARILY, UH, IF, IF NOT NECESSARILY THAT WE DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO IT, BUT WHO IS ALSO DOING THE FOLLOW THROUGH, LIKE AFTER THAT, LIKE DO WE AS A CITY ALSO, SO IF OPPORTUNITY HOME IS GIVING THEM A VOUCHER, DO WE FOLLOW THROUGH ON ADDITIONAL SERVICES THAT THE CITY MIGHT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE? DO, DO YOU KNOW, MEL OR, SO AS FAR AS OPPORTUNITY HOME WITH THEIR, UM, IF IT'S THEIR REGULAR SECTION EIGHT TYPE VOUCHER, THEY HAVE CASE MANAGERS. OKAY. AND TO SOME EXTENT AND NAVIGATORS THAT HELP WITH THAT, IF IT'S A HOMELESS SET ASIDE, THEN UM, THE CITY DOESN'T ACTUALLY DO THE CASE MANAGEMENT. GOT IT. BUT OTHER HOMELESS RESPONSE PARTNERS WOULD. OKAY. THANK YOU, MEL. AND THEN, AND I'LL HAVE SOME OFFLINE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. BUT THEN THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO FOCUS ON TODAY WAS THE VACANT BUILDING, C C R COUNCILMAN COURAGE. AND I SUBMITTED A C C R LAST SUMMER. IT JUST GOT HEARD BY P C D C LAST WEEK. AND IT WAS IN REGARD TO A RECOMMENDATION FOR SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING AND SOME ADDITIONAL STAFF SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS PROGRAM. AND I, I FIGURED WE WERE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT IT. UM, BUT ACCORDING TO THE US DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND DEVELOPMENT, VACANT PROPERTIES REDUCE PROPERTY VALUES, INCREASE CRIME AND INCREASE COST OF MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENTS. RIGHT. SO WITH THAT PREMISE IN MIND, COUNCILMAN COURAGE AND I FILED THE C C R SO THAT WE COULD EXPAND IT BEYOND SOME OF THE AREAS THAT HAD BEEN IDENTIFIED. SOME OF THE AREAS THAT WERE CURRENTLY IDENTIFIED WERE OBVIOUSLY DOWNTOWN, UM, BUT ALSO HALF MILE AROUND MILITARY BASES, CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICTS, PORT SAN ANTONIO AND BROOKS NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICTS AND CITY INITIATED TOURS. UM, AND THEN THE HALF MILE BUFFER AROUND THOSE AREAS. COUNCILMAN COURAGE. AND I KNOW THAT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS WE HAVE A LOT OF VACANT BUILDINGS, AND SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE LOOKED AT, UH, ILLEGAL DUMPING OR TRESPASSING THAT HAPPENED THAT THERE, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THAT'S A LOT OF CRIME IS TAKING PLACE IN NEIGHBORHOODS IN THESE VACANT LOTS. UM, THERE'S OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE, UH, INCENTIVIZED REVITALIZATION IN THOSE AREAS. UM, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT, AND I HEARD ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO ASKED ABOUT MINOR REPAIR AND MAJOR REPAIR AND OWNER OCCUPIED PROGRAMS, SOMETIMES THEY DON'T QUALIFY BECAUSE THEY DON'T MEET THE, UM, OCCUPIED REQUIREMENT AND SPECIFICALLY, OR, OR THEIR COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. IS THAT ONE OF THINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT AS WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW TO ADDRESS THE C C R THAT CAME LAST WEEK? I DIDN'T HEAR THAT DIRECTLY, BUT I FIGURED THAT I WOULD ASK TODAY. THANK YOU, VERONICA. SURE. YES. SO WE ARE LOOKING, WE DO HAVE SOME PROPERTIES THAT ARE RENTALS, AND SO THEY DO NOT FALL UNDER OUR CURRENT, UH, OWNER OCCUPIED REHAB. SO WE CAN LOOK AT THAT AS PART OF THE C C R. WE ARE GOING THROUGH WITH O H P AND MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS ARE LOOKING AT WHAT THE, UH, BUDGET ASK COULD BE AND WHICH MAY INCLUDE ADDITIONAL STAFF. YEAH. ON HOW WE LOOK AT EVERYTHING YOU TALKED ABOUT, ABOUT THE VACANT BUILDINGS, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, UH, VACANT LOTS, AND MAYBE EVEN POTENTIALLY, UH, FORECLOSED PROPERTIES THAT COULD BE ACQUIRED AND REHABBED. SO WE ARE LOOKING AT ALL THOSE OPTIONS AND, AND, UM, IF THE CITY CAN ACQUIRE THEM AND WE COULD REHAB THEM THROUGH OUR PROGRAM, THEN WE CAN SELL THEM AS SINGLE FAMILY, AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO WORRY SO MUCH ABOUT THAT OWNER OCCUPANCY REQUIREMENT. AND, AND IT GOES RIGHT IN LINE WITH THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, RIGHT? IT, YES. AND SO, AND THERE'S SEVERAL AREAS OF THAT. AND SO EVENTUALLY WHEN WE THINK OF EVEN LAND BANKING MM-HMM. , AND SO THIS IS, THIS GOES DIRECTLY TO, TO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. UM, BUT I APPRECIATE, UH, VERONICA THAT YOU CLARIFIED THAT BECAUSE I WAS HOPING THAT THIS IS KIND OF THE AREA WHERE WE COULD START THINKING ABOUT HOW WE INCREASE STAFFING FOR THAT. UM, AND THEN WITH THE LAST I'LL, I'LL JUST ADD THAT I HAVE, UM, ON THE POLICING SIDE OF IT, I APPRECIATE THAT WE ARE GOING TO ADD ADDITIONAL OFFICERS [02:50:01] OVER THREE TO FIVE YEARS. I WAS KIND OF ALONG THE LINE OF COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO WHERE I WAS THINKING THAT WE WOULD ADD SOME SAFE OFFICERS AS WELL. IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE THE CASE. UM, BUT ARE WE ADDING THEM? IS OUR OUTCOME TO IMPROVE RESPONSE TIME OR TO SOLVE CRIMES? UH, COUNCILWOMAN, I THINK IT'S BOTH. OKAY. HONESTLY, THERE'S, THERE'S QUITE A FEW BENEFITS THAT WOULD, UH, COME, BUT I, I DO EXPECT, UH, FASTER RESPONSE TIMES TO BE ONE OF THEM. AND, AND, AND I WOULD ANTICIPATE CRIME REDUCTION AS WELL. GOT IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHE GARCIA, COUNCIL MEMBER PAEZ. THANK YOU. WITHOUT, UM, WITHOUT SUGARCOATING IT, I'M, I'M WORRIED ABOUT, UH, RECRUITMENT AND MORALE, UM, AT EVERY DEPARTMENT IN SAN ANTONIO, BUT I'M ALARMED. YES. YES, SIR. CHIEF, UM, I, I'M, I'M PARTICULARLY ALARMED, UM, AT, UH, THE SUICIDE RATE THAT WE WERE SEEING IN YOUR DEPARTMENT. RIGHT. UM, AND TO, UH, COUNCILWOMAN VIA GRAND'S POINT, UM, POLICING IS NOT GETTING ANY EASIER. RIGHT. AND, UH, WE KEEP, I HEAR FROM THE OFFICERS THAT REPORT TO YOU CHIEF, THAT, UM, THEY GO HOME, UH, CLINICALLY DEPRESSED. UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ASKING FOR, UH, MORE MENTAL HEALTHCARE SERVICES, UM, THAT WE, UH, AS POLICYMAKERS THINK ABOUT THEIR HEALTHCARE. UM, AND SO I, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SOLVE FOR THAT PROBLEM OTHER THAN TO SAY THAT WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE BUT TO START SOLVING FOR IT. AND I'D, I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WE GOT PLANNED OR WHAT WE GOT IN THE WORKS HERE AFTER THAT BECAME AN ISSUE AT PUBLIC SAFETY. UM, A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, WE FORMED A WELLNESS COMMITTEE COMPRISED OF MEMBERS OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, COMMAND STAFF, AS WELL AS OFFICERS, DETECTIVES, JUST UP AND DOWN THE RANKS, UH, ARE MEMBERS OF THAT COMMITTEE TO INCLUDE THE, UH, UH, SPOA. UM, WE'VE, UH, CREATED A WELLNESS OFFICER TO, UM, UM, KIND OF OVERSEE THAT, THAT, UH, THAT WHOLE ISSUE WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT. UH, MATTER OF FACT, JUST, UH, LAST SATURDAY WE HAD A, UH, A WELLNESS RUN. WE CALL IT A RUCK RACE FOR, UH, MENTAL HEALTH, UH, WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT. SO WE HAD A VARIETY OF DEPARTMENTS THAT PARTICIPATED IN THAT. SO OUR, OUR FOCUS IS ON IT. AND, UM, UM, WE HAVE PAID PARTICULAR ATTENTION TO OFFICERS WHO HAVE EXPRESSED ISSUES, UH, THAT THEY NEED TO HAVE ATTENDED TO. UH, WE HAVE, UM, MADE SURE THAT OFFICERS WHO ARE INVOLVED IN, UH, UH, VIOLENT ISSUES ON THE, UH, EVENTS ON THE STREET HAVE BEEN TAKEN CARE OF IN TERMS OF THEIR LEAVE, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE LEAVE. SO WE ARE FOCUSED ON IT. AND, UH, KNOCK WOOD, WE HAVEN'T, UH, HAVEN'T HAD ANY REAL ISSUES, UH, AS OF LATE. COUNCILMAN, LET ME, LET ME ALSO ADD THAT, UM, THIS COMMITTEE SURVEYED, UH, OFFICERS AND POLICE, CIVILIAN STAFF FOR, UM, UM, UH, PRIORITIES AND ISSUES THAT THEY WERE FEELING. UH, WE'LL TAKE THE RESULTS OF THAT. UM, WE'RE TAKING THE RESULTS OF THAT SURVEY. THERE ARE SOME ARPA DOLLARS THAT WERE SET ASIDE IN TERMS OF THE MENTAL HEALTH BUCKET, AND WE'LL BE BRINGING FORWARD RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COUNCIL TO IMPLEMENT THE SUGGESTIONS WE RECEIVED FROM THE SURVEY. WE DID GET A, WE DID GET A HIGH TURNOUT IN TERMS OF THE SURVEY FROM THE DEPARTMENTS, WHICH IS HELPFUL. YEAH. AND, UH, THANK YOU, ERIC. THANK YOU, CHIEF. AND, UM, AND, AND I THINK IF YOU PULL THIS, THIS DAIS, UH, AND MY COLLEAGUES, I THINK ALL OF US ARE, ARE ALARMED BY THE, UH, BY THE SPIKE IN SUICIDES. AND, UH, I THINK WE'RE ALL EAGER TO SEE, UH, WITH A SENSE, EAGER, WITH A SENSE OF URGENCY, RIGHT? TO SEE, TO SEE, UM, TO SEE THAT THAT ADDRESSED, UH, AND FOR THERE TO BE FEWER SUICIDES. AND SO, I'M, I'M, I'M, UH, I'M HOPEFUL THAT, THAT WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS THE, IS THE RIGHT THING. THE, THE SECOND THING I, I WANNA TALK ABOUT CHIEF IS, UM, YOU KNOW, I WENT, I WENT BACK AND I, I WAS LOOKING AT SOME DATA, AND I ALWAYS TELL MY KIDS THAT, YOU KNOW, LEADERSHIP REQUIRES, UH, OR LEADERS, YOU KNOW, ARE FREQUENTLY REMINDING EVERYBODY AROUND THEM, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE WERE, WHERE WE ARE, AND WHERE WE'RE GOING, RIGHT? AND I, I WENT BACK AND I LOOKED AT 20, UM, AT, AT, AT THE YEAR 2000, RIGHT? AND WE HAD A POPULATION THEN OF 1.15 MILLION PEOPLE. FAST FORWARD TO TODAY, WE'VE GOT MAO'S 1.5, RIGHT? UM, THAT'S A 40% INCREASE, RIGHT? AT THAT CLICK IN ANOTHER 20 YEARS, WE ARE GONNA BE AT $2.2 MILLION, I'M SORRY, 2.2 MILLION PEOPLE WITHIN THE, UM, WITHIN OUR MUNICIPAL BOUNDARIES. IF YOU LOOK AT THE SQUARE MILES, UM, THAT WERE [02:55:01] SAN ANTONIO BACK IN 2000, RIGHT? WE'VE GROWN DRAMATICALLY BY WAY OF ANNEXATION, UM, AND JUST BY THE SPREAD OF, OF NEIGHBORHOODS THROUGHOUT SAN ANTONIO. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT MILLION PEOPLE'S GOTTA LIVE SOMEWHERE, RIGHT? AND SO, AND THEY'RE CHOOSING TO LIVE FURTHER AND FURTHER OUT. I THEN LOOKED AT, AND MARIA HELPED ME FIND THE, THE TWO, THE YEAR 2000 NUMBERS OF POLICE HEADCOUNT. THAT WAS 2005 OFFICERS. UM, AND THEN YOU LOOK AT, TODAY, WE'VE GOT 2,581 OFFICERS. SO EVEN THOUGH THE CITY HAS GROWN BY A LOT AS FAR AS SQUARE MILES AND THE AREA OF COVERAGE, I MEAN, AND, AND I'M TALKING ABOUT AREA OF COVERAGE HERE FOR PATROLLING. AND EVEN THOUGH THE POPULATION HAS GROWN BY 40%, UM, THE GROWTH OF POLICE HEADCOUNT DURING THAT TIME IS 20%. RIGHT? UM, NOBODY CAN EXPECT THAT GOOD THINGS WILL COME ABOUT WITH, UH, THAT DISPARITY OF PERCENTAGES, RIGHT? AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING TODAY IS JUST LOGICAL. I MEAN, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DON'T KEEP UP WITH GROWTH, RIGHT? AND THE SAME WOULD APPLY IF WE DIDN'T KEEP UP WITH MAINTENANCE OF ROADS, UH, YOU KNOW, AND COMMENSURATE TO OUR GROWTH AND THE USE OF STREETS. IF WE DIDN'T KEEP UP WITH THE MAINTENANCE OF, UM, YOU KNOW, SEWAGE AND DRAINAGE, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA SEE, UM, THINGS GET WORSE, NOT BETTER. AND SO WE'RE, UH, I, I, I THINK IT IS OBLIGATORY FOR US, UM, AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, OUR NUMBER ONE DUTY BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE SAFE. UM, EVERYTHING ELSE IS NUMBER TWO, NUMBER THREE, AND SO ON, RIGHT? BUT NUMBER ONE IS, IS PUBLIC SAFETY. AND SO I, I APPLAUD THE PLAN TO INCREASE STAFFING CHIEF. UM, I ALSO GOTTA TELL YOU THAT I'M, I'M VERY THANKFUL. I, I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AROUND THE COUNTRY, OTHER LEADERS IN YOUR POSITION WOULD BE DEFENSIVE, RIGHT? AND WOULD NOT BE, UM, AS VULNERABLE TO DOING A SELF-ANALYSIS. UH, YOU KNOW, AND SAY, I'M, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT. I, ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE ALWAYS ADMIRED ABOUT YOU IS THAT YOU'RE READY TO ALWAYS DO THAT SELF-ANALYSIS. AND SO, REALLY, I'VE, I'VE JUST CALLED YOU TO THE PODIUM TO THANK YOU, UH, AND TO TELL YOU THAT I'M, I'M, UH, I'M THANKFUL THAT IT'S YOU WHO'S LEADING THIS EFFORT, AND SO APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. LASTLY, UM, CHANGING TOPICS ON YOU, UH, I'LL, I'LL REMIND EVERYBODY THAT, UM, OR MAYBE I'LL, I'LL ANNOUNCE IT HERE. UH, LORI HOUSTON'S GETTING RECOGNIZED ON MAY 12TH, UM, BY THE, UH, FAMILY VIOLENCE PREVENTION SERVICES, UH, FOR THE, AND SHE'S EARNED THE, UH, HONORING MOTHER'S AWARD FOR HER WORK ON THIS VERY TOPIC OF HOMELESSNESS AND HOUSING AND, AND GETTING VULNERABLE PEOPLE OFF THE STREETS AND, AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE, UH, RECEIVING SERVICES. UM, THE REASON I HIGHLIGHT THAT, LORI, IS ONE, 'CAUSE YOU DESERVE IT, BUT TWO, I, I THINK IT'S SO APPROPRIATE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INCREASING POLICE SERVICES AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AT THE EXACT SAME MEETING, YOU KNOW, INCREASING SERVICES AS IT RELATES TO HOUSING AND, UH, MENTAL HEALTH AND SOCIAL SAFETY NET AND, YOU KNOW, HOMELESS SERVICES. AND I, I THINK IF ANYTHING, THE, THE TAKEAWAY FROM TODAY'S MEETING IS THAT SAN ANTONIO CAN WALK AND CHEW GUM AT THE SAME TIME, RIGHT? AND THAT, UM, THE WAY THAT WE SOLVE COMPLEX PROBLEMS IS BY PULLING FROM EVERY LEVER. UM, AND SO I, UM, SOMETIMES THAT GOES UNNOTICED, RIGHT? BECAUSE, UM, WELL, WE ALL KNOW WHY, BUT WE, UH, I, I AM PROUD OF, I'M, I'M PROUD OF THE WORK YOU GUYS ARE DOING, AND, UH, AND THANK YOU FOR, YOU KNOW, KEEPING THE PEDAL TO THE MEDAL. LORI, I'M, I'M, I'M VERY IMPRESSED WITH YOUR, UH, WITH YOUR, UM, WITH YOUR WORK AND THE TEAM'S WORK. SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. THANKS, MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER EZ. COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. UH, TALKING ABOUT SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT AND, UH, BOBBY, YOU, UM, GOT SOME QUESTIONS HERE FOR YOU. UH, FIRST OF ALL, THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH FOR, UH, GETTING THE STUDY IN THE, IN THE WORKS AND GETTING THE RESULTS OUT FOR THAT. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE NEEDED FOR A LONG TIME. AND, AND, UH, I PUSH FOR THAT AND I'M, I'M GLAD THAT THAT'S FINALLY, UM, OUT ON THE STREETS. I, I, I DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, 360 ADDITIONAL AUTHORIZATIONS. THAT'S GREAT. I, I DON'T THINK PEOPLE WANNA WAIT FIVE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD TO SEE THESE RESULTS, UH, IMPLEMENTED ACROSS THE CITY. SO, UH, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT FUNDING IS AVAILABLE AND THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THRESHOLD THAT WE, THAT IMAGINARY THRESHOLD OF THE 66%, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S AN IN-HOUSE POLICY, IF YOU WILL. WE DON'T, WE CAN GO OVER THAT IF, IF WE NEED TO. AND, AND I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT ENOUGH BASED ON THE CRIME THAT WE HAVE HERE IN SAN ANTONIO, THE, THE NUMBER OF FOLKS THAT WE HAVE ON HAND AND STRUGGLING TO KEEP, KEEP THAT NUMBER UP THERE. I THINK, UH, [03:00:01] I THINK, UM, PEOPLE EXPECT TO SEE, AND THOSE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES PUT ON THE STREET AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, AND I NEED, AND DURING THIS BUDGET PROCESS, I DON'T THINK, UH, THE HUNDRED IS NECESSARILY A, A BENCHMARK. I THINK WE NEED TO, TO MAKE THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AS WE CAN AFFORD, UH, THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE BUDGETING PROCESS. UH, I, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THE FIVE YEARS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO BE SHOOTING FOR. I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE THAT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. ALONG WITH THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE MAYOR ASKED ABOUT HOW, HOW WE'RE SITTING RIGHT NOW WITH, WITH THAT PERCENTAGE OF, UM, FUNDING GOING TO OUR SAFETY OF FIRE AND POLICE. AND IT'S GOOD TO HEAR THAT WE'RE, WE'RE BELOW THAT. SO I THINK WE GOT SOME WIGGLE ROOM WE CAN PLAY WITH, UH, THIS, THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR. UM, LITTLE BIT OF A CONCERN WITH THE, UM, THREE ADDITIONAL CADET CLASSES. I, I KNOW WE, WE USE AS A BENCH, OR WHAT IS A NUMBER OF, THAT WE USE FOR A BENCHMARK ON HOW MANY SIGN UP FOR CLASSES VERSUS HOW MUCH, HOW MANY ACTUALLY GRADUATE FROM THE, FROM THE CLASSES? YOU'RE, ARE YOU ASKING ME WHAT TYP THE TYPICAL OR AVERAGE ATTRITION RATE IS? YEAH, RIGHT. IT'S SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 2020 5% COMPANY. SO, AND I'M THINKING ABOUT THE LAST COUPLE OF CLASSES, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT. WE, WE GRADUATED AROUND 30, UM, YOU KNOW, AS OPPOSED TO THE 60 THAT REGISTERED, BUT WE'RE ONLY GRADUATING HALF. AND ARE WE EXPECTING THOSE NUMBERS TO GET BETTER OR STAY ABOUT THE SAME? BECAUSE IT'S BEEN ABOUT 30 TO 40 GRADUATES YEAH. AT EACH CLASS. I, I THINK THE CLASS THAT YOU WERE REFERENCING THAT HAD 30 GRADUATE, THAT ONE STARTED A LITTLE SMALLER, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. WE DIDN'T GET THE 60 IN THAT ONE. OKAY. UM, BUT THE LAST, UH, FEW WE'VE ACHIEVED THAT 60, UH, TARGET THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, AND THAT'LL PROBABLY NET US SOMEWHERE IN THE, IN THE MID FORTIES OKAY. IS WHAT WE'RE HOPING. AND SO THAT, THAT'S THE AVERAGE ATTRITION. OKAY. SO FORTIES, IS THAT GONNA, IS THAT GONNA TAKE CARE OF THESE VACANCIES THAT WE, WE CURRENTLY HAVE RIGHT NOW? YES. YES. YEAH. I MEAN, THE, THE CLASS THEY STARTED, UH, TWO MONTHS AGO HAD 70 PEOPLE IN THERE. THEY'VE GOT 58 AS OF TODAY. SO THAT'S THAT. I MEAN, IF THAT MEANS WE HAVE TO START A LITTLE BIT MORE ACCOUNTING, THAT ATTRITION, THE, THE DEPARTMENT KEEPS TRACK OF THIS AND, AND WE CAN SEND A FOLLOW UP EMAIL TO THE COUNCIL THAT SHOWS THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS IT, IT, UH, UM, WE'VE DONE BETTER THAN WHEN YOU FIRST GOT ONTO COUNCIL BECAUSE THAT THIS WAS AN ISSUE. UM, BUT WE'VE ALSO MADE THE CLASS SIZES BIGGER, UH, TO HELP US GET OUTTA THAT HOLE. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S PROBABLY, IT'S NOT, IT'S PROBABLY MORE 12, 15, 16, 17% ATTRITION RATE ON AVERAGE. BUT WE, WE CAN SEND THAT TO YOU BY CLASSES THE LAST COUPLE YEARS. OKAY. GREAT. YEAH, I APPRECIATE THAT. AND ON THAT POINT, ERIC, WE, WE ADDED 78 ON OCTOBER, AND, AND WE'LL BE REAL CLOSE TO BEING FLAT HERE WITH THIS NEXT CLASS. SO, SO WE'RE ABLE TO ABSORB, UM, THOSE, THE, THE, THE TRAINING TIME, THE 11 MONTHS IS, IS, IS A CHALLENGE, BUT I KNOW IF, UH, THE CITY MANAGER GIVES US THAT DIRECTION, UH, THE CHIEF WILL GIVE IT TO ME AND WE'LL GET IT DONE. OKAY. SO WILL WE MOST LIKELY BRING ON A FIFTH CLASS AGAIN THIS NEXT YEAR? SO WE, WE CAN BRING, WE CAN DO FIVE CLASSES AGAIN. WE, WE, UH, THERE'S SORT OF AN OPTIMAL TRAINING SCHEDULE IN THERE FOR, UH, THE, THE DOWNSTREAM, UM, UM, F T O RIDES AND WHATNOT THAT, THAT THEY HAVE TO MOVE AROUND. SO THERE'S SOME LOGISTICS ASSOCIATED WITH IT, BUT, BUT WE HAVE DONE FIVE AND WE CAN, UM, WHAT WE'LL USUALLY SEE IS MAYBE THE CLASS SIZE WILL BE A LITTLE SMALLER THOUGH TO START WITH BECAUSE THAT OUR, OUR RECRUITING IS BEING SPREAD OUT FROM FOUR CLASSES TO FIVE. AND WE HAVE FIVE SCHEDULED THIS FISCAL YEAR, CORRECT? YES. FOR THIS YEAR. BUT I'M, I'M LOOKING AT IF WE BRING ON AN ADDITIONAL A HUNDRED OR SO FOR NEXT YEAR, UH, PER YOUR, UM, RECOMMENDATION, IS THAT GONNA, UH, FORCE ANOTHER FIVE YEAR OR MORE? AT A MINIMUM FIVE. WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT IF WE CAN DO MORE. OKAY. BUT AT A MINIMUM FIVE, AS WE'VE BEEN, WE'VE BEEN OPERATING AT THAT PACE FOR THE LAST COUPLE YEARS. OKAY. WE'LL HAVE TO CONTINUE IT. GREAT. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. APPRECIATE IT, SIR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTILLO. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UH, I, I WANTED TO TOUCH ON, UM, THE HOMELESS STRATEGIC PLAN. I WANTED TO, TO THANK LORI AND TEAM FOR THE CONTINUED WORK THAT Y'ALL BEEN DOING, UH, THIS PAST WEEK. RIGHT. I WAS WITH, UH, MARK AND SOME COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS MEETING WITH THE INTER-AGENCY COUNCIL ON HOMELESSNESS, UH, WHO COMMENDED THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AND THE PARTNERS FOR THE COLLABORATIVE WORK THAT'S BEEN TAKING PLACE. AND THOSE WEEKLY MEETINGS THAT ALL THE, THE PARTNERS ARE HAVING ON, UH, DISCUSSING WHERE THE NEEDS ARE AND HOW TO MOVE FORWARD ON TACKLING THIS ISSUE. UM, WE ALSO HAD CONVERSATION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE TRENDS THAT WE'RE SEEING AND THAT HE WAS SEEING [03:05:01] THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES. AND ONE THING THAT, UH, HE NOTED WAS UNIQUE TO SAN ANTONIO WAS THE INCREASE IN UNHOUSED FAMILIES AND YOUTH. RIGHT. THAT'S A TREND THAT HE'S NOT TOO SURE IF IT'S GOING TO TELL US WHAT WE'RE GOING TO START SEEING AS A NATION, OR IS IT SOMETHING UNIQUE TO THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AND THE STATE OF TEXAS. UM, BUT I, I'M PLEASED TO SEE THAT, UM, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THOSE ITEMS. BUT, UH, ONE THING THAT HE TOUCHED ON WAS, UM, A A AGAIN, RIGHT. PLATITUDES AND ACTUALLY CONTINUING TO DO THE WORK. AND I WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE LIKE THE WORK OF THIS COUNCIL THAT'S BEEN DOING ON HOMELESSNESS. UM, BUT THERE'S PLENTY MORE TO DO. UM, AND WHEN I SAY THAT RIGHT, I LOOK TO THE CITY OF BOSTON AND WHAT THEY'VE DONE WITH, UH, MICHELLE WU, THEIR MAYOR, UM, SHE FOCUSES ON HOUSING, UH, UNHOUSED INDIVIDUALS AS A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE, RIGHT? BECAUSE INDIVIDUALS WHO DON'T HAVE A HOME DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO RUNNING WATER. UM, THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO RESTROOMS. AND HOW DOES THIS IMPACT OVERALL PUBLIC HEALTH, RIGHT? AND ENSURING THAT THEY TACKLE AND HOUSE EVERY INDIVIDUAL, UM, OF COURSE WHO WANTS ASSISTANCE, UM, AND, AND CONNECTING TO THEM THROUGH A PUBLIC HEALTH LENS RATHER THAN, UM, A A LENS OF CRIME, RIGHT? OF CRIMINALITY. UM, SO I THINK THAT'S OPPORTUNITY THAT I SEE HERE, FOR US TO SHIFT TOWARDS MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE SUPPORTING, UM, THE DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN SERVICES AND TACKLING, UM, A LOT OF THIS OUTREACH THAT WE'RE SEEING OUT IN COMMUNITY. I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE HARM REDUCTION PIECE AND CONTINUING TO SEE THAT SUPPORT. UM, AND I KNOW ON THE SLIDE IT MENTIONED THAT THE SAN ANTONIO FIRE DEPARTMENT IS ONE OF THOSE PARTNERS, UM, PARTICULARLY WITH THE M I H DO. WE ANTICIPATE TO SEE THAT, UM, FUNDING GROW. THAT SUPPORT GROWTH AS WE CONTINUE TO NAVIGATE WHAT WE'RE SEEING OUT IN THE COMMUNITY. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'LL LIKELY BE TALKING ABOUT THIS SUMMER IS THE USE OF THE OPIOID DOLLARS MM-HMM. , UH, TO HELP WITH THAT EFFORT. UM, AND WE'LL ROLL THAT INTO THE GENERAL CONVERSATIONS THAT COUNCIL HAS IN TERMS OF PRIORITIES. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT, THAT'S HELPFUL TO KNOW. AND I ALWAYS GET EXCITED WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HOUSING BECAUSE WITH THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, I FEEL LIKE IT'S NO SHADE. IT'S ONE OF THE ONLY DOCUMENTS THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY STICKING TO AND LIKE DOING THE WORK. UH, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, AND I THINK THAT'S, THAT, THAT'S AMAZING. SO WE ALWAYS GO BACK AS A TEAM AND REVIEW AND READ IT. AND ONE, ONE PART FROM THE SHIP SAYS, SEIZE PUBLIC SUPPORT OF MARKET RATE DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL DISPLACE RESIDENTS THE GOAL TO PROTECT NEIGHBORHOODS FROM DIRECT AND INDIRECT, UH, IMPACTS OF DEVELOPMENT BY SEIZING FINANCIAL SUPPORT FOR MARKET RATE DEVELOPMENTS. AND WHEN I THINK ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, IN DISTRICT FIVE IN PARTICULAR, UM, I WOULD LIKE ASSISTANCE FROM, UH, LORI, UH, OR ERIC, I'M WAITING ON VIE TO PROVIDE ME A RESPONSE ON WHAT AFFORDABILITY MEANS TO THEM. UM, THEY'RE A PARTNER WITH THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, AND THEY ALSO SIT ON THE HOUSING COMMISSION, BUT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO SHARE WITH ME, UM, WHAT AFFORDABLE MEANS TO THEM. UM, AND I ASK THAT BECAUSE THEY OWN, UM, A LARGE AMOUNT OF REAL ESTATE IN DISTRICT FIVE THAT THEY INTEND TO BUILD MIXED USE. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT AS WE NAVIGATE THESE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, UM, HOMELESSNESS AND HOUSING, THAT, UH, WE HAVE THAT COORDINATION WITH ALL OF OUR PARTNERS. AND I HAVE REQUESTED THAT, UM, DEFINITION, AND I, I WOULD LIKE ASSISTANCE ON GETTING A RESPONSE ON WHAT THAT IS. WE'LL, WE'LL FOLLOW UP WITH THEM, COUNCILWOMAN. ALL RIGHT. GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTILLO. ALL RIGHT, ERIC. UM, WE'RE READY FOR ITEM TWO, FOUR, WHATEVER, WHICHEVER ONE. , COME ON UP, BEN. ALL. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN VERAN. AND WE'VE GOT ANOTHER, WE'VE GOT A FIVE O'CLOCK PUBLIC COMMENT. AND ONE MORE. IT'S GONNA BE VERY QUICK. I JUST, I WANTED TO CHIME IN ABOUT I, THE, UM, THE PLAN, LORI. UM, AGAIN, I AM, I'M VERY EXCITED. THE ONE THING THAT I THINK WE NEED TO DO MORE PUBLICITY IS THAT WE HAVE THE 35 STREET OUTREACH WORKERS. EVERYBODY THINKS WE JUST HAVE MY ONE, PATRICIA, 'CAUSE SHE GOES TO ALL THE MEETINGS. BUT, UH, LETTING PEOPLE KNOW THAT SISON AND OTHER MINISTRIES ARE OUT THERE DOING THAT. THE OTHER THING IS THE UPDATED, UH, TRAINING MANUAL AND COORDINATION PLAN. IF WE, I HAVE A LOT OF GOOD, WELL-INTENTIONED NEIGHBORS, BUT I THINK IF THEY UNDERSTOOD AND THEY SAW Y'ALL'S THE PLAN THAT YOU'RE USING, THEY WOULD THEN KNOW HOW TO, TO MANAGE THE SITUATION THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO MANAGE. AND CHURCHES ALSO, UH, THAT ARE DOING THAT TOO. BUT I NEED THEM TO KNOW WHAT, HOW YOU GUYS ARE WORKING AND COORDINATE IT AND, AND WHAT THEY CAN SAY TO DO TO HELP, HELP GET THAT PERSON TO THE NEXT, TO THE NEXT WORKER. 'CAUSE I THINK THEY'RE, THEY'RE TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF IT THEMSELVES, AND THEY'RE NOT EQUIPPED. AND WHAT I NOTICE SOME OF MY RESIDENTS ARE DOING, THEY'RE JUST CAVING AND GIVING THEM MONEY. AND THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT ALWAYS THE BEST CASE. SO IF YOU COULD JUST, UH, UH, HELP WITH THAT, AND THEN JUST ENCOURAGING PEOPLE BY TELLING THEM WHAT WE ARE DOING, WHICH IS THE OPERATION REBUILD AND HOW WE'RE KEEPING PEOPLE IN THEIR HOMES, I THINK IS ANOTHER THING THAT'S, THAT'S KEY TO THIS SUCCESS. SO, THANK YOU. THAT WAS ALL. THOSE WERE ALL MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER VIRON. ERIC, ARE WE READY FOR, [03:10:01] FOR BEN NOW? BEN WAS BORN. READY, MAYOR. OKAY. COME ON UP, BEN . ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, WE, I'M GONNA GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON OUR FINANCIAL POLICIES THIS AFTERNOON. YOU KNOW, EVERY YEAR WE ASK YOU TO APPROVE OUR FINANCIAL POLICIES AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS. UM, MANY TIMES WE'RE JUST ASKING YOU TO CONFIRM WHAT WE'VE GOT IN OUR POLICIES TODAY. I'M GONNA GIVE YOU AN UPDATE. I'M GONNA, I'M FOCUS ON TWO AREAS WHERE WE'RE GONNA MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS. ONE IS ON OUR REVENUE FROM C P S ENERGY, AND THE OTHER ONE IS ON THE LEVEL OF OUR FINANCIAL RESERVES. I'M GONNA START HERE ON, UM, SLIDE TWO. JUST A REMINDER, ON THE PURPOSE OF OUR FINANCIAL POLICIES, THIS IS OUR FORMAL POLICY GUIDANCE, AND WE ASK YOU TO ADOPT IT. YOU'RE, YOU'RE THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THIS MUNICIPAL CORPORATION. WE WANT YOU TO ADOPT THESE POLICIES, AND THEN WE USE THOSE AS GUIDANCE AS WE MANAGE THE ORGANIZATION. OVERALL, THEY'RE KEY TO MAINTAINING OUR STRONG FINANCIAL POSITION. OUR CURRENT FINANCIAL POLICIES HAVE SERVED US VERY WELL. THEY'VE ALLOWED US THE FLEXIBILITY TO ADAPT TO CHANGING EC ECONOMIC CONDITIONS. AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT, UH, THROUGH A VARIETY OF ECONOMIC CYCLES AND CHALLENGES OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS. AND IN DOING THAT, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO MAINTAIN A GOOD, SOLID FINANCIAL POSITION. UM, THEY'RE A COHESIVE SET OF POLICIES AND PRACTICES THEY HAVE TO FIT TOGETHER. THEY'RE ALMOST LIKE A PUZZLE. EACH OF THOSE PUZZLE PIECES HAS TO WORK TOGETHER. WE CAN'T PULL ONE OUT IN THE MIDDLE, PUT SOMETHING ELSE IN AND, AND HAVE IT WORK. THEY'VE GOT A FUNCTION TOGETHER OVERALL. UM, WE'VE TAILORED THEM TO THE CITY ORGANIZATION. AND THEN THOSE HAVE RESULTED IN OUR ONE, AGAIN, ABILITY TO MAINTAIN A STRONG POSITION. BUT THEY'VE ALSO BEEN A KEY ELEMENT IN OUR, UH, EXCELLENT BOND RATINGS THAT WE HAVE ON OUR GEN GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS. NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES, I'LL JUST TALK ABOUT OUR CURRENT FINANCIAL POLICIES. GENERAL FUND. WE MAINTAIN A MINIMUM GENERAL FUND ENDING BALANCE OF 15% OF REVENUES, UH, MAINTAINING PUBLIC SAFETY, SPENDING BELOW 66% OF THE GENERAL FUND, UH, UH, BUDGET. MAINTAINING A STRUCTURAL BALANCE. WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS JUST MAKING SURE WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR OPERATING REVENUES AND EXPENSES AND MAKING SURE THAT THOSE ARE NOT GETTING TOO FAR OUT OF ALIGNMENT. IN TERMS OF HOW WE USE OUR TWO YEAR ROLLING BUDGET RESERVE, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WE MAINTAIN SOME LEVEL OF STRUCTURAL BALANCE. THE TWO YEAR BUDGET PLAN WHERE WE ASK YOU TO ADOPT, YOU HAVE TO LEGALLY ADOPT THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR. BUT WE ASK YOU TO PUT THE PLAN IN PLACE FOR THE SECOND YEAR. WE OBVIOUSLY REVISIT THAT WHEN WE GET THERE, BUT THAT FISCAL DISCIPLINE HAS REALLY WORKED WELL FOR US AND ALLOWED US TO MANAGE, UH, THE ORGANIZATION IN, IN, IN VERY, SOMETIMES VERY CHALLENGING TIMES. A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS HERE. WE DO APPROPRIATE A MILLION DOLLAR CONTINGENCY IN THE GENERAL FUND FOR KIND OF UNFORESEEN THINGS, AND THEN $3 MILLION IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET. UH, OTHER POLICIES OUTSIDE OF THE GENERAL FUND. WE HAVE INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS, UH, FOR OUR WORKERS' COMP PROGRAM, OUR GENERAL LIABILITY PROGRAM, INTERNAL SERVICE, UH, INFORMATION, UH, SERVICES, TECHNOLOGY FUND, UM, LIABILITY, WORKERS' COMP, DEAL WITH ACTUARIAL STUDIES. SOMETIMES WE GET MOVEMENT IN THOSE FUNDS THAT MAY CAUSE A DEFICIT. UM, THOSE FUNDS GET THEIR FUNDING FROM OTHER FUNDS ACROSS THE CITY. WE'VE GOT A POLICY IN PLACE THAT SAID WE'LL FUND THAT DEFICIT WITHIN THREE TO FIVE YEARS. SO IT GIVES US TIME TO ADJUST TO WHAT WE'RE SEEING FROM AN ACTUARIAL PERSPECTIVE AND BUILD THAT INTO THE BUDGET. THE NEXT COUPLE DEAL WITH THE RECENT, UH, CHANGE A COUPLE YEARS AGO ON, UM, PROPERTY TAXES. WE'RE GONNA ANNUALLY REVIEW THE IMPACT OF THE STATE IMPOSED 3.5% PROPERTY TAX CAP ON THE M AND O SIDE, HOW IT'S AFFECTING OUR SERVICE DELIVERY. AND THEN WE'LL MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS SUGGEST A PROPERTY TAX RATE. IN MANY CASES, THAT'S MANDATED BY STATE LAW, BUT WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHETHER WE'RE DOING ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THAT. WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT PROPERTY TAX RELIEF WITH A FOCUS ON HOMEOWNERS. AND THEN WE'RE GONNA PERIODICALLY REVIEW OUR, UH, FEES AND CHARGES TO LOOK FOR COST RECOVERY, INFLATION, CONSUMER RELIEF, OR ALIGNMENT WITH YOU ALL'S POLICY GOALS. SO THIS GRAPHIC, UH, YOU HAVE SEEN MANY TIMES AS PART OF THE BUDGET, THE SPINNING WHEEL GRAPHIC. UH, IN INSIDE OF THIS GRAPHIC, YOU'VE GOT, YOU'VE GOT OUR EXPENDITURES FOR THE GENERAL FUND, F Y 23 ADOPTED BUDGETS, $1.5 BILLION ON THE OUTER RING. YOU'VE GOT OUR REVENUES, AND THE THREE BIG REVENUES ARE PROPERTY TAX, SALES TAX, AND OUR CITY PAYMENT. I MENTIONED THAT WE HAVE A FINANCIAL POLICY THAT WE WANNA MAINTAIN A MINIMUM ENDING BALANCE OF 15%. THAT'S TYPICALLY IN THE SECOND YEAR. AND I'VE GOT A SLIDE THAT WILL REMIND YOU WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. BUT WE BUDGET TO GET DOWN TO 15%. OUR GOAL IS THAT WE WANT TO BE ABOVE 15%. OUR BEST PRACTICE IS YOU WANT TO HAVE AT LEAST TWO MONTH OPERATING RESERVE. THAT'S 16.7%. [03:15:01] SO HOW ARE WE GETTING FROM THE 15 UP TO 16.7% OR GREATER? WE WANNA BE HIGHER THAN THAT. IT'S THROUGH MODERATELY CONSERVATIVE REVENUE PROJECTIONS AND SOME EXPENDITURE SAVINGS THAT WE TYPICALLY SEE WITHIN OUR BASE BUDGET THAT FALL INTO THAT FUND BALANCE AND ALLOW THAT TO GROW. WHAT HAS CHANGED A LITTLE BIT IS THIS GENERAL FUND ENDING BALANCE POLICY HASN'T REALLY BEEN LOOKED AT SINCE ABOUT 2000 AND, UM, 15. AND THE PROPERTY TAX ELEMENT, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT MODERATELY CONSERVATIVE REVENUE PROJECTIONS, IT DOESN'T AFFECT THAT BECAUSE WHEN WE ADOPT THE BUDGET FOR THE COMING YEARS, IT'S BASED ON THE CERTIFIED ROLE. WE'RE NOT GONNA COME IN BETTER THAN THE ADOPTED BUDGET. IT'S SET TYPICALLY IN THE SECOND YEAR. IF WE HAD A CONSERVATIVE FORECAST, YOU WOULD SEE SOME POTENTIAL GROWTH THERE THAT COULD ALSO HELP WITH THAT, THAT THAT ALSO HAS, UH, SOMEWHAT BEEN ELIMINATED, BECAUSE AS WE BUDGET THREE AND A HALF PERCENT GROWTH IN THE GENERAL FUND, THAT'S THE MAX WE CAN GET UNDER STATE LAW WITHOUT HAVING TO LOWER THE TAX RATE. UM, SO THOSE, THAT ABILITY FOR PROPERTY TAX TO CONTRIBUTE TO BETTER ENDING BALANCE HAS CHANGED. UH, WE'RE CERTAINLY GONNA GET SOME OF THAT FROM SALES TAX. AND THEN I'M GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT C P S ENERGY AND, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FLUCTUATIONS THAT WE DEAL WITH FROM YEAR TO YEAR AND HOW WE HAVE TO MANAGE THAT. DURING LAST YEAR, UH, LAST YEAR'S BUDGET WORK SESSIONS, WE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT THE, THE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF REVENUE THAT WAS COMPLETELY OUT OF THE ORDINARY, WHAT WE, AND TYPICALLY WHAT WE GET FROM C P S, WE WILL SEE FLUCTUATIONS IN THAT REVENUE STREAM. BUT LAST YEAR WAS, UH, A BIT OF AN ANOMALY HAPPENS, YOU KNOW, EVERY FIVE OR 10 YEARS. BUT WE'RE GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT SPECIFICALLY AND ABOUT THE PRACTICE THAT WE HAVE HAD IN PLACE, NOT POLICY, BUT PRACTICE THAT WE HAVE USED TO MANAGE THOSE FLUCTUATIONS FROM YEAR TO YEAR. WE WANNA MODIFY THAT A LITTLE BIT AND THEN FORMALIZE THAT, UH, BASED ON WHAT WE HEARD FROM YOU ALL DURING THOSE WORK SESSIONS INTO A POLICY THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND YOU ADOPT. UH, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THE C P S REVENUE. THIS IS OUR ACTUAL CITY PAYMENT FROM C P S, GOING BACK TO 2008. IF YOU THINK ABOUT OUR EXPENDITURE BUDGET, IT'S GONNA BE FAIRLY LINEAR, RIGHT? WE'VE GOT MOSTLY RECURRING EXPENSES. WE'VE GOT, UH, EMPLOYEE PERSONNEL SALARIES. THOSE ARE GONNA GROW FROM YEAR TO YEAR. UH, WE'VE GOT SOME ONE-TIME EXPENSES. UH, THE RATE OF GROWTH MAY CHANGE, BUT THEY'RE TYPICALLY, YOU KNOW, INCREASING. IF YOU LOOK AT THIS ACTUAL C P S PAYMENT, YOU CAN SEE HOW MUCH IT FLUCTUATES. THIS IS NOT THE BUDGET, THIS IS THE ACTUAL PAYMENT COMING IN. IT FLUCTUATES A LOT FROM YEAR TO YEAR. AND THIS KIND OF REFLECTS WHY WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WHEN WE BUDGET THIS. SO, IF I TOOK A COUPLE OF YEARS, LIKE, UM, 2018 OR 2011 OR 2008, AND SAID, UH, THIS IS THE NEW NORM. LET'S JUST BUDGET 3% GROWTH OFF OF THAT, YOU CAN SEE WHAT HAPPENED AFTER THOSE YEARS THAT ACTUALLY DECLINED. SO WHILE THE ECONOMY WOULD'VE BEEN DOING FINE, WE WOULD'VE CREATED OUR OWN FISCAL ISSUES BY INSERTING RECURRING EXPENSES AND NOT HAVING THE REVENUE TO COVER THAT. SO THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO BE CAREFUL WITH HOW WE MANAGE THIS, UH, REVENUE STREAM. UM, IN 2022, I HAVE LISTED THERE, UH, IT'S THE 385.9 MILLION. THAT'S NET OF THE $50 MILLION THAT WE RETURN TO RATE PAYERS. SO JUST EVERY SLIDE THAT I'M GONNA PRESENT FROM HERE ON, UH, HAS THAT $50 MILLION, UH, NETTED OUT ON THE FAR RIGHT. UH, IN THE BOX, ON THE FAR RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE THE ACTUAL AVERAGE ANNUAL GROWTH RATE IS 2.3% OVER FIVE YEARS. 3.1 AT 10 YEARS, 15 YEARS SIMILAR, 3.2. SO THE AVERAGE ANNUAL GROWTH'S ABOUT THE SAME. WHAT YOU SEE IS KIND OF A WIDE FLUCTUATION FROM YEAR TO YEAR, UH, IN THAT REVENUE STREAM. THIS NOW MOVES IN AND LOOKS AT WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THIS REVENUE AGAINST THE ADOPTED BUDGET. SO NOT THE RE-ESTIMATE, BUT WHEN WE ADOPT THE BUDGET, WHERE DID WE END UP AGAINST THAT? SO FOR EXAMPLE, IN 2008, WE ENDED UP $49.3 MILLION BETTER THAN THE ADOPTED BUDGET YOU GO TO THE NEXT YEAR. IN 2009, WE ENDED UP $23.4 MILLION UNDER THE ADOPTED BUDGET. SO IT SWUNG PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY THE OTHER WAY ON US. AND YOU SEE THAT HAPPENING, UH, THROUGHOUT THIS GRAPH. THE, THE THING THAT HELPS US HERE IN TERMS OF HOW WE MANAGE THIS FLUCTUATION FROM YEAR TO YEAR IS THE TWO YEAR BUDGET PLAN. BECAUSE WHAT IT'S DOING IS IT'S LOOKING AT ALL OF OUR SOURCES, BUT IT'S DROPPING THIS ONE IN, AND IT IS SMOOTHING THESE FLUCTUATIONS OUT. SO IF I LOOK AT 2014, WE CAME IN AT 39.6 MILLION, UH, WE DROPPED THE NEXT TWO YEARS. THE TWO YEAR BUDGET PLAN JUST SPREADS THAT OUT AND COVERS THAT GAP. SO IT'S, IT'S REALLY TAKING SOME OF THE FLUCTUATION FROM YEAR TO YEAR OUT. SO THAT'S BEEN A GREAT POLICY FOR US, HAS WORKED REALLY, REALLY WELL. UM, THE NEXT SLIDE TAKES THOSE SAME, UM, VARIANCES AGAINST THE ADOPTED BUDGET AND JUST TELLS YOU WHERE WE ARE PERCENTAGE WISE. AND IT'S GONNA [03:20:01] TIE INTO THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE'RE GONNA MAKE ON C P S. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IN 2008, WE DID $49.3 MILLION BETTER THAN THE ADOPTED BUDGET. THAT WAS 20% OF THAT BUDGET. THE NEXT YEAR WE WERE $23.4 MILLION DOWN. THAT WAS 8.1% OF THAT ADOPTED BUDGET. UM, SO YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT HAS FLUCTUATED OVER TIME. AGAIN, THE TWO YEAR BUDGET HELPS SPREAD THAT OUT. THE 2022 NUMBER AT 6.82% IS NET OF THE $50 MILLION THAT WE RETURN TO RATE PAYERS. UH, IF I ADDED THAT BACK IN JUST FOR CONTEXT, THAT NUMBER WOULD BE 23.5%. THAT'S THE HIGHEST OVER THAT 15 YEAR PERIOD THAT WE DID AGAINST A, A BUDGET THAT WE ADOPTED FOR OUR RETURN FROM C P SS. UH, THIS GRAPH IS A HENRY HUB, A NATURAL GAS SPOT PRICE. IT GIVES YOU SOME INDICATION. UM, THIS IS ONE OF THE DRIVERS OF SOME OF THOSE YEARS WHERE YOU SAW HIGHER PAYMENT FROM C P SS, PARTICULARLY WELL OVER THE BUDGET. YOU CAN SEE HOW MUCH IT FLUCTUATES, UH, FROM, FROM YEAR TO YEAR. AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, ON THE FAR RIGHT WHERE WE ARE TODAY IS IT HAS DRAMATICALLY DROPPED FROM WHERE WE WERE LAST SUMMER. SO LAST YEAR WE HAD A COMBINATION OF REALLY EXTREMELY HIGH HEAT COMBINED WITH HIGH NATURAL GAS PRICES THAT DROVE THOSE CUSTOMER BILLS UP AND DROVE SOME OF THAT, UH, CITY PAYMENT BACK TO US. UM, WHEN I LOOKED AT THE SPOT PRICE A MINUTE AGO ON HENRY HUB, IT'S LIKE $2 AND 4 CENTS, $2 AND 2 CENTS PER M M B T U. THIS TIME LAST YEAR IT WAS PROBABLY BETWEEN FIVE AND $6 PER M M B T U AND TRENDING UP. AND YOU CAN SEE WE WERE GETTING CLOSE TO, UM, $10, UH, AS WE HEADED INTO THE SUMMER. SO THE OUTLOOK ON THE ENERGY INFORMATION AGENCY'S WEBSITE, UH, NATURAL GAS RESERVES ARE WELL BELOW, WELL ABOVE, SORRY, WELL ABOVE THE FIVE-YEAR AVERAGE. SO WE'VE GOT A LOT OF NATURAL GAS AND STORAGE, THE OUTLOOK, AT LEAST IN THE SHORT TERM, ON NATURAL GAS PRICES AS THEY WILL STAY LOW. UM, THAT WILL CERTAINLY AFFECT US AS WE GO INTO THE SUMMER AND, BUT WOULD BE GOOD FOR CONSUMERS IF NATURAL GAS PRICES STAY AT THAT LEVEL. THAT WOULD BE SOME WELCOME RELIEF FOR, FOR RATE PAYERS, IF, IF, IF THAT HOLES AS WE HEAD INTO THE SUMMER. SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT CAN AFFECT OUR PAYMENT ARE, OF COURSE, THE WEATHER AND OFF SYSTEM SALES CAN CAUSE SOMETIMES CAUSE, UH, PRETTY BIG SWINGS IN THE PAYMENT. YOU'LL RECALL A COUPLE YEARS AGO IN THE MONTH OF AUGUST, WE GENERATED QUITE A BIT OF CITY PAYMENT IN THAT YEAR AND HAD SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT AS WELL. SO WITH THAT, WHAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING IS, AND THE RECOMMENDATION IS GEARED TOWARDS THE HIGHLY UNUSUAL OUT OF THE ORDINARY PAYMENT FROM C P S ENERGY, MEANING WE'RE WELL ABOVE THE ADOPTED BUDGET. WE EXPECT FLUCTUATIONS. WE NEED TO COME IN ABOVE BUDGET BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE GENERATE THAT EXTRA ENDING BALANCE THAT WE TALK ABOUT FROM A FUND BALANCE PERSPECTIVE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS IN A SCENARIO LIKE LAST YEAR. WELL, IT IS WELL, OUTSIDE OF THAT NORMAL RANGE, HOW ARE WE GONNA FUNCTION? WHAT DO WE DO WITH THAT BASED ON SOME OF THE FEEDBACK WE GOT? SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO ADD INTO OUR POLICY THAT WE WOULD ANNUALLY ASSESS THE PAYMENT FROM C P S ENERGY TO DETERMINE THE PORTION, IF ANY. 'CAUSE IT, IT DOESN'T, IT, IT SHOULDN'T HAPPEN THAT OFTEN DEEMED TO BE UNUSUAL OUT OF THE ORDINARY AND ONE TIME IN NATURE. AND RE AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THAT AMOUNT TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION FACTORS SUCH AS THE CITY'S OVERALL FINANCIAL POSITION, IMPACT ON SERVICE DELIVERY, BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY, AND RESPONSIBLE OWNERSHIP. UM, THAT ALLOWS US TO KINDA LOOK AT THAT ONE-TIME PIECE AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON JUST THAT COMPONENT. I DID ADD IN, OR WE DID ADD IN THE RESPONSIBLE OWNERSHIP PIECE, COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT FROM Y'ALL'S PERSPECTIVE, YOU TAKE YOUR ROLE AS, AS COUNCIL MEMBERS AND AS OWNERS OF C P SS ENERGY, SERIOUSLY. BUT, YOU KNOW, GIVEN SOME OF THE CONVERSATION WE WERE HAVING A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO ON THAT SENATE BILL, UM, IT THOUGHT WOULD BE GOOD TO JUST STATE THAT, UH, WHILE IT'S OBVIOUS, STATE IT IN THE FINANCIAL POLICY AND, AND ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, THAT WE UNDERSTAND OUR ROLE AS OWNER OF THIS UTILITY AND WHAT IT MEANS TO CONSUMERS AND, AND HOW THIS STRUCTURE WORKS IN PRACTICE. HOW THIS WOULD WORK IS WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT AS A GENERAL GUIDELINE, IF WE'RE GOING TO EXCEED THE ADOPTED BUDGET BY MORE THAN 10%, THAT AMOUNT OVER 10% WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THIS POLICY. ANYTHING UNDER THE 10% FALLS INTO OUR NORMAL BUDGET CYCLE. IT'S THAT SMOOTHING OUT. WE TALK ABOUT IT HELPS SUPPORT THE BASE BUDGET. IT'S PART OF YOUR GOAL SETTING PROCESS AS YOU'RE SETTING YOUR PRIORITIES FOR WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THE BUDGET AND WHAT WE WANT TO ADD. IT HELPS US MAINTAIN THOSE BASIC SERVICES GOING FORWARD. THIS IS GEARED TO, UH, IF IT'S ABOVE 10%, WE TAKE THAT AMOUNT AND WE'RE GONNA MAKE THAT SUBJECT TO THIS POLICY. SO IF I TAKE F Y 23 AND AS AN EXAMPLE, OUR ADOPTED BUDGET IS $391.8 MILLION, [03:25:03] 10% OF THAT IS 39 POINT, UH, $2 MILLION. THAT FIRST $39 MILLION ABOVE THE ADOPTED BUDGET, IF IT GETS UP TO THAT, WOULD JUST STAY AS PART OF THE NORMAL BUDGET PROCESS. IF WE'RE GONNA EXCEED THAT, WHATEVER AMOUNT WE EXCEED THAT BY, WE WOULD HAVE, UH, THIS POLICY KICK IN. AND THE WAY WE WOULD DO THAT IS, UM, IT WOULD HAPPEN MORE THAN LIKELY EITHER DURING GOAL SETTING, IF WE, IF WE CAN SEE THAT THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING, UH, THE MORE LIKELY SCENARIO, IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE AS PART OF THE TRIAL BUDGET OR THE PROPOSED BUDGET BECAUSE 40% OF OUR C P S REVENUE COMES IN IN THE FOUR MONTHS FROM JUNE TO SEPTEMBER. SO A LOT OF THAT, UH, WE REALLY AREN'T GONNA SEE UNTIL WE GET INTO JUNE AND JULY. 'CAUSE IT CAN CHANGE PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY ON US. IF IT'S AS PART OF THE PROPOSED BUDGET, WE WOULD SIMPLY TAKE THAT AMOUNT THAT'S OVER THE 10% ALLOCATED IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET, HAVE A WORK SESSION WITH YOU ALL TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON, ON WHAT WE WANNA, UH, DO WITH THAT. WE WOULD LISTEN TO THAT FEEDBACK AND THEN COME BACK AND GIVE YOU A RECOMMENDATION ON, ON, ON, ON THAT PIECE OF IT. UM, IF I GO BACK JUST REAL QUICK TO SLIDE EIGHT. SO IF THIS POLICY HAD BEEN IN PLACE, THERE WOULD'VE BEEN THREE YEARS WHERE IN THE LAST 15 YEARS IT WOULD'VE KICKED IN. ONE WAS 2008, ONE WAS 2010, AND THEN IT WOULD'VE BEEN LAST YEAR IN 2022. UM, I WANNA HIGHLIGHT 2014 SHOWS THAT ABOVE 10%, THAT'S ONE OF THOSE YEARS WHERE WE ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTED A C P S A RATE INCREASE IN THE MIDDLE OF A FISCAL YEAR. WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THOSE, WE DON'T BUILD THOSE INTO THE BUDGET. THEY'VE GOTTA MAKE THEIR BUSINESS CASE TO US. UM, YOU ALL WILL, WILL WEIGH IN ON THAT AND APPROVE A, IF YOU APPROVE A RATE INCREASE, IT WOULD THEN BE GET IMPLEMENTED IN THE FISCAL YEAR. THAT'S A RECURRING REVENUE. IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE'RE NOT GONNA BUILD IN ON THE FRONT END. IT'S NOT AN ANOMALY. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE UNUSUAL LIKE LAST YEAR. SO THAT YEAR WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN PART OF THAT, THAT POLICY CONVERSATION. UM, I WANNA SWITCH GEARS A LITTLE BIT AND TALK ABOUT OUR CURRENT C RESERVE POLICY. SO I MENTIONED THE MINIMUM 15% ENDING BALANCE, 15% OF REVENUES. IT'S MADE UP OF TWO COMPONENTS, A 10% BUDGETED RESERVE. AND THEN WE'VE GOT A MINIMUM OF 5% THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE IN OUR TWO YEAR BUDGET PLAN. AND THAT'S HOW WE GET TO THE 15%. AS AN EXAMPLE, WE'VE GOT ON THE RIGHT SIDE FROM THE ADOPTED BUDGET, UH, THE TWO YEAR BUDGET PLAN, YOU CAN SEE THAT FOR F Y 23, UM, WE ACTUALLY HAD 20% OF OPERATING REVENUES, UH, UH, AT THE END OF 2023 IS WHAT WE WERE PROJECTING LAST SUMMER. BUT WHEN YOU GO TO 24, YOU CAN SEE THAT HAS DROPPED TO THAT 15% ENDING BALANCE. AND AGAIN, THROUGH THE MODERATELY CONSERVATIVE REVENUE FORECAST, SOME EXPENDITURE SAVINGS, WE EXPECT THAT TO GO UP AND WE WANT TO BE, WE WANT TO BE IN EXCESS OF A TWO MONTH OPERATING RESERVE. UH, CREDIT. LET'S TALK ABOUT CREDIT RATINGS JUST VERY BRIEFLY HERE. SO AGAIN, I WANNA SPEND TIME HERE. AAA RATINGS THE HIGHEST RATING. THESE ARE THE, THE TIERS. THE HIGHER THE, OBVIOUSLY THE LOWER THE INTEREST COST YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE. UH, AAA IS THE BEST RATING YOU CAN GET ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THIS TABLE'S ALL INVESTMENT GRADE, BUT, UM, TRIPLE B WOULD BE THE LOWEST ON THAT SCALE. OUR RATINGS ON THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND SIDE ARE MOODY'S AT AAA STANDARD POURS AT AAA, FITCH RATINGS AT AA PLUS, WHICH IS ONE NOTCH BELOW AAA. AND OUTLOOK ON ALL OF THOSE IS STABLE. UM, THIS SLIDE, WE, UM, TALKED WITH YOU PREVIOUSLY ABOUT MOODY'S HAD PUBLISHED REVISED CRITERIA IN NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR. THAT CRITERIA STILL FOCUSES ON AREAS LIKE, UH, THE ECONOMY, OUR FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE, UM, OUR INSTITUTIONAL FRAMEWORK, GOVERNANCE STRUCTURE LEVERAGE, WHICH IS BASICALLY OUR DEBT PENSION, UH, LIABILITIES. UM, BUT IT WAS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT CHANGE FROM THEIR PREVIOUS METHODOLOGY IN THAT THEY REALLY BROADENED WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT IN SOME OF THE CRITERIA. AND THEY'RE PICKING UP IN ADDITION TO OUR GENERAL FUND AND OUR GOVERNMENTAL FUNDS, THEY'RE STARTING TO PULL IN THINGS LIKE OUR BUSINESS TYPE ACTIVITIES LIKE SOLID WASTE, UH, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. AND THEY'RE ROLLING THAT INTO THEIR SCORECARD CRITERIA. UM, I THINK THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. WE'RE ONE ORGANIZATION, THE GENERAL FUND WOULD BE KIND OF THE PARENT COMPANY. AND THEN WE'VE GOT ALL THESE SUBSIDIARIES THAT WE RUN. UM, THE SCORING MATRIX AND SCORING CRITERIA WITHIN EACH OF THOSE GOT HARDER. SO THE, THE SCALE CHANGED ON US AS WELL. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT TOUGHER. UM, WHEN THEY PUBLISHED THIS CRITERIA IN NOVEMBER OF 2022, UM, OUR RATING ALONG WITH 93 OTHER CITIES AND COUNTIES WAS PUT, UH, UNDER REVIEW. SO THEY MOVED THE RATING FROM AAA, STABLE, MEANING EXPECT ANY CHANGE TO UNDER REVIEW, WHICH MEANT THERE COULD BE A POSSIBLE DOWNGRADE. WE WORK WITH THEM FROM NOVEMBER, UH, REALLY INTO EARLY JANUARY. UM, THEY WERE LOOKING AT OUR 2021 AUDIT RESULTS. WE TALKED [03:30:01] ABOUT SOME OF OUR PRELIMINARY 2022 AUDIT RESULTS AND SOME OF THEIR SCORE COURT AND CRITERIA AND HOW THEY WERE LOOKING AT US, HAD SOME VERY POSITIVE CONVERSATIONS, SHARED INFORMATION WITH THEM. THEY TOOK THAT TO COMMITTEE IN JANUARY AND WE WERE PLEASED TO, TO HEAR FROM THEM IN JANUARY THAT THEY HAD REAFFIRMED OUR AAA RATING AND HAD MOVED THAT UNDER REVIEW OUTLOOK TO STABLE. SO THAT WAS, UH, CERTAINLY GOOD NEWS AS AS WE MOVED THERE. BUT THAT THE, I GUESS THE TAKEAWAY HERE IS THAT THESE METHODOLOGIES FROM THE AGENCIES ARE, UM, GETTING TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CHALLENGING, SCALE'S A LITTLE BIT HARDER, UH, AND THE GRADING SCALE'S A LITTLE BIT, UH, MORE CHALLENGING BIT, UH, MORE CHALLENGING. SO IN TERMS OF OTHER, UH, THINGS, JUST REAL QUICK HERE, THESE ARE, UH, FROM MOODY'S AND S AND P. THIS IS JUST A PART OF THE GRADING SCALE. UM, THERE ARE, AND YOU CAN SEE HERE ON SOME OF THE FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE METRICS, THEY'RE SIMILAR. YOU'VE GOT FUND BALANCE AND LIQUIDITY RATIOS FOR MOODY'S ON THE LEFT AND BUDGET FLEXIBILITY, BUDGET PERFORMANCE, LIQUIDITY ON THE RIGHT. THIS AGAIN, IS JUST A PORTION OF THE SCORECARD. THEY BOTH HAPPEN TO GIVE WEIGHTS, UH, IN TOTAL THERE OF ABOUT 30%. THIS IS SOME OF THE QUANTITATIVE MEASURES AND METRICS THAT THEY LOOK AT. AND THEN THERE ARE QUALITATIVE FACTORS THAT THEY LOOK AT. UM, OUR FINANCIAL POLICIES, OUR FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE, UM, ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE, FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT, HOW WE'RE DEALING WITH ISSUES AND CHALLENGES, HOW WE APPROACH THOSE, THOSE GET FACTORED IN AS WELL. BUT WANTED TO GIVE YOU A SENSE THAT, THAT THERE ARE SOME DIFFERENCES BETWEEN HOW THEY LOOK AT, UH, AND HOW THEY REVIEW THAT BETWEEN THE AGENCIES. BUT THEY'RE ALL GONNA COME BACK TO SOME LEVEL OF, UH, FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE AND HOW WE'RE DOING OVERALL. SO IN TERMS OF OUR RECOMMENDATION RE RELATED TO OUR RESERVES, UM, WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT WE TARGET TO INCREASE OUR BUDGET RESERVE FROM 10% TO 15% OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS FOR A TAR TOTAL TARGETED, MINIMUM ENDING BALANCE OF 20%. UM, WE RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS A BALANCE. WE'RE NOT RECOMMENDING THAT WE DO THIS OVERNIGHT, THAT IT WOULD TAKE SOME TIME TO DO THIS. WE'VE GOTTA BALANCE OFF OBVIOUSLY MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY, THE, THE, THE PRIORITIES THAT YOU ALL HAVE. BUT WE THINK THIS SHOULD BE IN THE MIX OF THINGS THAT WE TALK ABOUT AND, AND THAT WE GET THERE AS WE CAN OVER TIME AND BUILD THIS UP. I MENTIONED THAT WE REALLY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ABOVE A TWO MONTH OPERATING RESERVE. I MEAN, WE HAVE A $1.5 BILLION GENERAL FUND BUDGET. OUR TOTAL, UM, UH, ALL FUNDS BUDGET IS $3.4 BILLION. WE'RE A BIG ORGANIZATION. WE RUN A LOT OF DIFFERENT ENTITIES, A LOT OF DIFFERENT ENTERPRISES. UM, I THINK IT MAKES SENSE FOR US TO MAKE SURE WE STAY ABOVE THAT THRESHOLD. HOW WE GET THERE EVEN A LITTLE MORE. I MENTIONED PROPERTY TAX ISN'T SOMETHING THAT REALLY GENERATES ADDITIONAL, UH, UH, VARIANCE ABOVE AN ADOPTED BUDGET. SO SOME OF THIS HAS CHANGED SINCE THE LAST TIME WE LOOKED AT THESE POLICIES BACK IN 2015. UH, OTHER REASONS. I THINK WE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CHANGES IN THE RA RATING METHODOLOGY, I THINK THAT'LL CONTINUE TO BE SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT OUR RISK PROFILE. UH, WE'VE CERTAINLY TAKEN ON LARGER BOND PROGRAMS. WE'RE GONNA BE TAKING ON LARGER CAPITAL PROGRAMS. WE'VE GOT THE AIRPORT AND THE T D P AND AIRFIELD WORK THAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING. AND I'M NOT IN ANY WAY SUGGESTING TO YOU HERE THAT WE'RE GONNA USE THIS FOR THE AIRPORT, THE AIRPORTS AND ENTERPRISE. IT'S A BUSINESS, BUT I THINK WE GOTTA RECOGNIZE IT'S A SUBSIDIARY, IF YOU WILL, OF THE PARENT COMPANY. AND ALL OF THAT GETS LOOKED AT AND TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION, AND IT'S HOW WE MANAGE RISK ACROSS THE ORGANIZATION. UM, IF YOU LOOK AT OUR PROPERTY TAX DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS IN 2015, THE LAST TIME WE LOOKED AT THIS, THEY WERE $183.9 MILLION. UH, IN 2023, THE ADOPTED BUDGET, THEY'RE JUST UNDER $300 MILLION. UH, REMEMBER THAT MAKES UP ABOUT 29% OF OUR GENERAL FUND, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A DEBT SERVICE, QUOTE UNQUOTE RESERVE FUND FOR THIS PROPERTY TAX DEBT SERVICE. YOU KNOW, THE TRUTH AND TAXATION RULES DON'T ALLOW US TO DO THAT. WE'VE GOT ABOUT A $30 MILLION FUND BALANCE THERE, THAT, THAT, UM, UH, IS ABOUT WHAT WE CAN MANAGE OR HOLD THERE. BUT OUR PAYMENTS ARE CLOSE TO THE 300 MILLION. SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT RISK, IF, IF FOR, FOR WHATEVER REASON, AGAIN, I CAN'T ALWAYS THINK OF THE UNTHINKABLE HERE, BUT FOR WHATEVER REASON, THERE WAS A DISRUPTION IN PROPERTY TAX PAYMENTS TO US. UH, A DELAY IN GETTING THOSE, THE TIMING, THE LIQUIDITY, THE, THE ISSUES THAT THAT WOULD CAUSE ARE THINGS WE JUST HAVE TO BE PREPARED TO DEAL WITH. SO, UM, WE DON'T HAVE A RESERVE, BUT WE'D HAVE TO MAKE THAT PAYMENT AND WE'D HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT. THIS JUST BECOMES ANOTHER LEVER RISK OF CATASTROPHIC WEATHER, UH, CYBER, ECONOMIC, OTHER EVENTS. I THINK CERTAINLY THE RISK OF THOSE THINGS HAPPENING. AND IN SOME CASES, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD EXPECT ASSISTANCE FROM OTHERS WHEN THAT COMES. HOW FAST THAT COMES [03:35:01] PUTS PRESSURE ON OUR LIQUIDITY AS WELL. LIQUIDITY MEANING THE AMOUNT OF CASH THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO CONTINUE AND SUSTAIN OUR OPERATIONS THROUGH THAT TYPE OF EVENT. UM, IF WE WERE ABLE TO ACHIEVE THE 20% ENDING BALANCE MINIMUM, UH, TARGET, UM, TO PUT THAT IN CONTEXT IS ABOUT A TWO AND A 2.2 AND A HALF MONTH OPERATING RESERVE. TO GET TO THREE MONTHS, WE'D HAVE TO BE AT 25%. SO I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS, UH, CERTAINLY WORTHY OF DISCUSSION. I THINK, UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE RISK PROFILE OF WHERE WE WERE IN 2015 VERSUS WHERE WE ARE TODAY, IT'S DIFFERENT THINGS HAVE CHANGED A LOT. I THINK THIS KIND OF FITS IN WITH THAT, WITH THAT. SO WE WOULD RECOMMEND ADDING THIS INTO OUR POLICIES. UM, THE LAST THING I'LL MENTION IS I MENTION AS I WRAP UP HERE IS PROPERTY TAXES. UM, ERIC DID MENTION AT THE BEGINNING, I'M SURE YOU ALL SAW THE, THE ARTICLE YESTERDAY ABOUT THE NOTICES STARTING TO BE MAILED OUT. WE HAVE GOTTEN SOME INFORMATION FROM, UH, B C AD BE, UH, COUNTY ASSESSOR, UH, UH, BEXAR COUNTY DISTRICT, AND WE DON'T HAVE, UH, ALL OF THE DATA SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY GET IN AND LOOK AT ASSESSED VALUE OR TAXABLE VALUE. WE EXPECT TO GET THAT EARLY NEXT WEEK. SO I THINK BY NEXT, UH, THURSDAY DURING YOUR GOAL SETTING SESSION, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SHARE INFORMATION ON WHAT IS HAPPEN HAPPENING WITH TAXABLE VALUE. AND WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO IT BY SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL, MULTI-FAMILY COMMERCIAL. SO WE SHOULD HAVE THOSE BREAKDOWNS FOR YOU. THE OTHER THING WE CONTINUE TO DO IS MONITOR THE PROPERTY TAX RELIEF, UH, BILLS THAT ARE UP AT THE STATE. THERE ARE DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF THOSE. HOPEFULLY, UM, AS WE GET CLOSER TO THE FIVE-YEAR FORECAST TRIAL BUDGET, WE WOULD KNOW WHAT THOSE LOOK LIKE. SO YOU COULD TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AS YOU THINK ABOUT ADDITIONAL PROPERTY TAX RELIEF. UM, DO YOU WANT TO LOOK AT INCREASING THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION GOING IN OR IF THE STATE'S DOING A LOT OF PROPERTY TAX RELIEF, DO YOU HOLD THAT BACK AND LOOK AT USING THAT IN A YEAR WHEN THEY'RE NOT PROVIDING PROPERTY TAX RELIEF? NOT, NOT, UM, MAKING A RECOMMENDATION ON THAT. AT THIS POINT, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. UH, BUT JUST THAT BY THE TIME WE GET TO GOAL SETTING OR GOAL SETTING, UM, THE FIVE-YEAR FORECAST, THE TRIAL BUDGET, WE'LL KNOW A LOT MORE ABOUT THAT. AND THEN REMEMBER, THE TIMELINE FOR US TO DO SOMETHING IS JULY 1ST. SO MAYOR, THAT WRAPS UP MY PRESENTATION THIS AFTERNOON. I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. THANKS, MAN. LET ME JUST REITERATE ONE, UH, COUPLE THINGS THAT BEN SAID AT THE END. THE, THE, UH, THE ISSUE, THE MATTER REGARDING THE RESERVES IS, IS THE RE A RECOMMENDATION TO DEVELOP A PLAN. AND, AND THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THIS CONVERSATION. IT DOESN'T MEAN WE'VE GOTTA FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO IT IN ONE YEAR. IT IS, IT IS KIND OF SETTING THAT FIELD UP SO THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE THE LINES ARE AT AND THEN ADJUST ACCORDINGLY. AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S ABOUT THE COUNCIL'S PRIORITIES, THE COMMUNITY'S NEEDS, OUR FINANCIAL CAPABILITY. UM, AND, AND I WANNA REITERATE AS WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS, UM, UH, AS BEN SAID, A LOT OF THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE 2015 WHEN THE LAST TIME WE LOOKED AT THIS AS A POLICY. SO WE THOUGHT IT WAS PRUDENT TO PUT IT ON THE COUNCIL'S RADAR AND, UH, AND, AND THINK ABOUT HOW WE SHOULD DO WITH IT IN THE FUTURE. GREAT, THANK YOU ERIC. UM, AND I'LL COME BACK TO 2015 IN JUST A MINUTE, BUT THANK YOU BEN. UM, YOU, YOU'RE ONE OF OUR VIPS. 'CAUSE EVERYTHING THAT WE DO HERE, EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN DO IS BUILT ON STRONG FISCAL MANAGEMENT. AND THAT HAS BEEN A STRENGTHS, UH, STRONG SUIT FOR SAN ANTONIO FOR A VERY LONG TIME UNDER YOUR LEADERSHIP. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BEN. UM, SO CONTEXT AROUND 2015 WHEN WE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THESE POLICIES HOLISTICALLY LAST, ERIC, I REMEMBER WE ADDED, UM, WE SCORED THE BUDGET AT THE 66% THRESHOLD BECAUSE WE WERE LOCKED IN A, A PRETTY HIGH PITCHED COLLECTIVE BARGAINING BATTLE WHERE WE WERE TRYING TO ACHIEVE A STRUCTURAL BALANCE WITHIN THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUDGET. I THINK WE'VE ACHIEVED THAT AND SO NOW WE CAN GROW THOSE DEPARTMENTS, UM, THOUGHTFULLY AS THE CITY GROWS. AND WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION EARLIER ABOUT THE NUMBER OF POLICE, I THINK FROM, IN TERMS OF A, HOW WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO GROW THOSE DEPARTMENTS SHOULD BE, UM, BUILT ON WHAT ARE THE BEST PRACTICES, UM, RATHER THAN SOME ARBITRARY NUMBER ABOUT 66% OR NOT. WHEN I SEE THE 66%, UH, AND WHERE WE SCORED IT IN 2015, THAT WAS ALMOST AN EMERGENCY MEASURE. UM, SO I THINK WE OUGHT TO EVALUATE WHERE THAT LINE IS AS LONG AS WE ARE FOLLOWING BEST PRACTICES IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, APPROPRIATELY STAFFING OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT APPROPRIATELY, STAFFING AND EQUIPPING OUR, OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT AND, AND ALL THE OTHER ASPECTS OF PUBLIC SAFETY. THE CONCERN IS THAT WE SET AN ARBITRARY NUMBER AND WE'RE NOT ABLE TO CONTINUE TO DO WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING OVER THE LAST SEVEN YEARS, WHICH IS TO, UM, FUND UPSTREAM PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY, [03:40:01] INFRASTRUCTURE PARKS, ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT MAKE A HEALTHY CITY THAT ARE IN THEMSELVES PART OF OUR CRIME PREVENTION, UM, APPROACH. UM, SO WHAT, WHAT I'M GETTING AT ERIC IS IF IT'S AT 60.5% TODAY AND WE ARE GROWING THE BUDGET, UH, IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENT, UM, ACCORDING TO BEST PRACTICES AND WE'RE ABLE TO PROPERLY FUND COMMUNITY, UH, MAYBE WE NEED TO EVALUATE WHERE THAT LINE IS AND BRING IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT AGAIN. UM, AND THAT'S NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH ALL THE BUZZWORDS THAT ARE OUT THERE ABOUT, UH, BUDGETING IN POLICE DEPARTMENTS. WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE ARE STRUCTURALLY BALANCED. WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO GROW THOSE DEPARTMENTS ACCORDING TO BEST PRACTICES. WE'RE GONNA LOOK TO HIRE ON A WHOLE CONTINGENT OF PATROL OFFICERS, WHICH I AGREE WITH, UH, AND PROBABLY OTHERS IN THE DEPARTMENT. UM, BUT WE, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT MOVING FORWARD IN OUR BUDGET, WE ARE STILL KEEPING AN EYE ON A COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH TO A SAFE COMMUNITY, WHICH MEANS, YOU KNOW, BUDGETING FOR COMMUNITY INFRASTRUCTURE, PARKS, HOUSING, JOB OPPORTUNITIES, EDUCATION. I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE, UM, A THOUGHTFUL DISCUSSION AROUND THAT AND NOT SET THAT ARBITRARY LINE. DID DID YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT, ERIC? WE HAD TALKED ABOUT DOING THAT IN THE PAST. WE HAVE AND, AND, UM, UM, THIS YEAR, THIS YEAR'S ADOPTED BUDGETS THE LOWEST IT'S BEEN SINCE WE'VE HAD THAT POLICY IN PLACE. UM, AND I THINK IT, I I I THINK IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE, WE KIND OF CHECK THE PULSE OF THAT POLICY ONCE A YEAR, RIGHT? UM, BUT, BUT I THINK I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE COUNCIL REMAIN, YOU KNOW, GIVE YOURSELF SOME LATITUDE HERE BECAUSE WE DO, ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS BROUGHT UP EARLIER, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE FIRE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING, WE HAVE POLICE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING, WE HAVE OPERATION, WE HAVE ACCREDITATION WITH FIRE. THERE WILL BE, THERE WILL BE EBBS AND FLOWS AND THEN SPRINKLE INTO IT. THE FACT THAT IF, IF A PROBLEM HAPPENS WITH THE ECONOMY, UM, I, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BENCHMARKS WE MAY WANNA THINK ABOUT IS NOT ALLOWING THAT TO GROW TOO MUCH OVER WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW. WELL, BUT YOU KNOW, I I I WOULD SAY THAT IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ADJUSTING THE 66% THAT WE TAKE A, WE TAKE A SEPARATE APPROACH AND, AND DO SOME ADDITIONAL ANALYSIS. I'M THINKING OUT LOUD HERE, BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 66%, I'M JUST REMEMBERING THE CONTEXT AT WHICH WE SAID IT, IT'S ALMOST A MEANINGLESS NUMBER AT THIS POINT. I MEAN, WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS GROW THOSE DEPARTMENTS COMPREHENSIVELY AND IN ACCORDANCE AND BALANCE WITH THE REST OF THE CITY. IF, IF FOLKS ARE JUST GONNA BRING UP THE 66%, LIKE IT'S A MAGIC LINE THAT WE CAN'T CROSS OR, OR WHATEVER, MAYBE IT'S NOT A USEFUL NUMBER ANYMORE. MAYBE WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT THE OTHER ASPECTS OF OUR CITY BUDGET INSTEAD. UM, THAT'S OPEN FOR CONVERSATION. MM-HMM. . UM, THE OTHER QUICK THINGS I WANTED TO MENTION, UM, ALSO IN 2015 IT WAS, UH, WE'D JUST COME OFF OF THE, THE, UH, MEMORIAL DAY FLOODS. AND SO WE ADDED A CONTINGENCY FUND. UH, AT THAT TIME IT WAS $1 MILLION STILL IN THERE. $1 MILLION GENERAL FUND, $3 MILLION CAPITAL FUND. I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW WE'VE USED IT OVER THE YEARS. I THINK IT HAS BEEN FOR, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT WE JUST DIDN'T FIT IN THE ADOPTED BUDGET. I DON'T THINK THAT'S A GOOD PRACTICE FOR US. AND I ALSO DON'T THINK THAT $1 MILLION, $3 MILLION IN CAPITAL IS AN APPROPRIATE LEVEL OF CONTINGENCY FOR THE THINGS THAT WE WERE ANTICIPATING. IF WE HAVE A NATURAL DISASTER OR AN EMERGENCY, WE'RE GONNA INTO A WHOLE HECK OF A LOT MORE FUNDS AND FLEXIBILITY THAN JUST THAT CONTINGENCY FUND. AND WE ALSO DON'T WANT TO EARMARK PORTIONS OF THE BUDGET JUST SO WE HAVE EXTRA TO TAKE CARE OF SOMETHING WE FORGOT ABOUT. SO WHAT, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST IN CONTEXT WITH GROWTH OF THE GENERAL FUND BALANCE, WHICH I AGREE WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, WE NEED A A RAMP TO GET THERE. WE CAN'T DO IT IN IN TWO YEARS, OR MIGHT MIGHT TAKE MORE THAN FIVE YEARS, BUT WE SHOULD GET TO IT. WHAT I WOULD LIKE, UH, TO THINK ABOUT IS CAN WE DEVELOP A POLICY WHERE A PORTION OF THAT 20% IS EARMARKED FOR EMERGENCIES ONLY LIKE A STATED DECLARATION OF EMERGENCY OR A PUBLIC DISASTER? UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING CON AKIN TO WHAT WE'VE FACED OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS WHERE IT COUNTS TOWARD OUR GENERAL FUND BALANCE OF 20%. UM, AND IT, BUT IT WILL NOT BE USED AS CONTINGENCY UNLESS WE ARE IN A CERTAIN CONDITION AND MAY MAYBE THAT IS A STATED DECLARATION OF, OF EMERGENCY, JUST A THOUGHT MAYOR, WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT, UM, THAT, UM, IF, IF YOU ALL ARE SUPPORTIVE OF BUILDING A PLAN TO GET TO THE 20% OVER TIME, THAT IS SOMETHING WE COULD CERTAINLY LOOK AT. I THINK IT WILL HELP US GET THERE AND IT'LL ALSO GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, RATIONALE BEHIND HAVING A CONTINGENCY IN THE FIRST PLACE. 'CAUSE I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE USED IT IN THE WAY [03:45:01] THAT WE INTENDED WHEN WE, WHEN WE FIRST BUILT THAT FUND. YEAH. I I THINK THAT WE'VE USED IT MORE FOR SMALLER ISSUES THAT HAVE COME UP. UM, YOU KNOW, AFTER WE'VE ADOPTED THE BUDGET IS WHAT I RECALL. UM, WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MORE IS, IS SOMETHING THAT IS PART OF OUR RESERVES, RIGHT? THAT, UH, IN THE EVENTS OF EMERGENCY WE'VE SET SOME ALLOCATION ASIDE SAYING THIS IS THE FIRST BUCKET WE GO TAP. MAYBE IT'S 1% OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. RIGHT? EXACTLY. BUT ONLY UNDER SPECIFIC CONDITIONS. AND I, I WOULD THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, AN ACTUAL NATURAL DISASTER WOULD BE ONE OF THEM BECAUSE IF WE EVER WERE TO TAP INTO THE RESERVE, IT SHOULD BE FOR AN EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCE AND, AND IT WILL HELP US BUILD THAT RESERVE. IF WE'RE THINKING ABOUT A PORTION OF IT ANYWAYS IS UNDER, UNDER, UH, EXTREME CIRCUMSTANCES, WE CAN CERTAINLY, UH, GIVE THAT SOME MORE THOUGHT AND COME BACK ON THAT. OKAY. AND, YOU KNOW, MAY, MAYOR MAY, MAYBE THERE'S, UH, AS WE GO THROUGH THE SUMMER, MAYBE THERE'S A DIFFERENT WAY TO DEAL WITH THE $3 MILLION CAPITAL CONTINGENCY IN A DIFFERENT WAY. YEAH. UM, TO, TO UPDATE THAT POLICY. THAT'S A, THAT'S A GREAT POINT. WE'LL LOOK AT THAT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BEN. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA. THANK YOU MAYOR. AND THANK YOU BEN, UM, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. AND I, I'M USUALLY, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I JUST, I JUST HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS BASED OFF, OFF OF WHAT THE MAYOR SAID. AND, BUT FIRST, SO THE LAST TIME WE LOOKED AT THESE POLICIES WAS IN 2015, RIGHT. FOR, FOR THE ENDING BALANCE IN THE GENERAL FUND, WE'VE UPDATED SOME OF THEM. LIKE THE PROPERTY TAX I THINK WAS THREE YEARS AGO MAYBE. OKAY. OKAY. AND BUT SOMEBODY'S LOOKING AT THEM REGULARLY, RIGHT? YES. IT'S NOT LIKE 2007 OR SOMETHING. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. JUST MAKING SURE. AND THEN, UM, SO WHEN WE HAVE TO TAP INTO THE RESERVE, IF WE DO EVENTUALLY, WHO AUTHORIZES THAT? THAT WOULD BE THE, THE, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE THE COUNCIL. BUT, UM, SO WE SET THE PRIORITIES ANYWAY. SO DO WE REALLY HAVE TO DESIGNATE SOMETHING LIKE I, I'M, I'M, I GUESS I, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHY WE WERE TRYING TO DESIGNATE A PORTION FOR SOMETHING OR ANOTHER. 'CAUSE WE WOULD TAP INTO IT IF IT WAS AN EMERGENCY ANYWAY, RIGHT? OR WHEN WOULD WE TAP INTO A CONTINGENCY? SO THE, SO LEMME SEPARATE THE, THE, THE CONTINGENCY WAS, UM, TO DEAL WITH SMALLER ISSUES THAT CAME UP AFTER BUDGET ADOPTION. OKAY. AND SO TODAY, OUR GENERAL FUND ENDING BALANCE, WE WANNA STAY AT A MINIMUM OF 15%. MM-HMM. , THERE'S TWO COMPONENTS. THERE'S THE 10% THAT'S OUR BUDGETED RESERVE. WE DON'T EVER PLAN TO TOUCH THAT. I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S LIKE, UH, THE WORDS WE TYPICALLY, THAT'S OUR LAST LINE OF DEFENSE. YES. WE'VE GOTTEN TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE STRUGGLING TO TRY TO MAKE PAYROLL, UH, UH, AND, AND KEEP FUNCTIONING. RIGHT. THAT'S THAT PIECE. THERE'S THE TWO YEAR PIECE, WHICH YOU'RE ALLOCATING AS PART OF THE BUDGET IN THE SECOND YEAR. UM, AND THEN WE'RE RESERVING IT. SO WE'RE HOPING TO REFILL THAT SURE. AND, AND REPLENISH THAT. SO WE WANNA STAY ABOVE THE 15% TO, TO SAY THAT, UM, YOU'VE GOT SOME EMERGENCY FUNDS IS KIND OF MAYBE WHAT I HEARD THE MORE MAYOR TALKING ABOUT MM-HMM. , WE'VE GOT SOME CATASTROPHIC EVENT THAT'S HAPPENING. MM-HMM. , WE NEED TO ACCESS $10 MILLION, UH, AS AN EXAMPLE, THAT PROBABLY WOULDN'T FIT IN WITH OUR EXISTING 15%. THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE DIFFICULT FOR US TO DO UNDER THIS STRUCTURE. MM-HMM. , IF YOU COULD GET TO 20. RIGHT. I'M, I'M STILL, I'M, I'M ABOVE THE TWO MONTH RESERVE. AND I SAID, YOU KNOW, UM, THERE'S SOME ALLOCATION THAT WE WOULD DO FOR IMMEDIATE RESPONSE IN AN EMERGENCY. IT'S THIS POOL OF DOLLARS. WE COULD SET A POLICY AROUND THAT THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO QUICKLY DEPLOY THAT WE'RE STILL ABOVE WHERE WE NEED TO BE FINANCIALLY. MM-HMM. , WHILE WE'RE ON THE FRONT END OF SOME TYPE OF EMERGENCY, YOU'RE HAVING TO RESPOND. SO IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THIS POLICY, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO QUICKLY DEPLOY IT. WELL, IT WOULD BE A POLICY CONVERSATION WITH THE COUNCIL AND AGAIN, WHERE WE ARE. OKAY. UM, BECAUSE WE PULL IT, BECAUSE WE PULL IT DOWN SO LOW THE SECOND YEAR TO THE 15% WE'RE DROPPING BELOW TWO MONTH RESERVE. UM, IT'S MORE CHALLENGING. AND THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE'RE SAYING WE NEED TO RE-LOOK AT IT. MM-HMM. , IT WAS EASIER IN 2015 FOR US TO REFILL THE BUCKET, IF YOU WILL. WE'LL GET DOWN TO 15%. WE WANNA BE ABOVE TWO MONTHS, YOU KNOW, WE'LL GET SOME ADDITIONAL PROPERTY TAX REVENUE COMING IN, WE'LL GET SOME ADDITIONAL SALES TAX C P S IT, IT WAS EASIER TO GET THERE. I THINK WE'RE GONNA BE MORE CHALLENGED GOING FORWARD TO DO THAT, WHICH IS WHY WE PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE GOING DOWN TO A MINIMUM 15% IN THE SECOND YEAR. GOT IT. OKAY. WELL THEN, AND MAYBE WE CAN HAVE AN OFFLINE CONVERSATION. I, I'M JUST TRYING TO STILL UNDERSTAND LIKE WHY FUTURE COUNCILS COULDN'T DECIDE THAT IF, IF THEY NEEDED IT. RIGHT. AND SO, BUT, BUT AGAIN, I'M, I'M JUST ASKING LIKE, DO WE REALLY NEED THIS OR CAN, CAN, CAN OTHER FUTURE COUNCILS DECIDE IF IT CAME TO THAT? BUT I'M, I'M NOT FOR AGAINST, I'M JUST LEGITIMATELY ASKING THE QUESTION, DO DO FUTURE COUNCIL MEMBERS NEED, WHAT DO THEY NEED? SOME SORT OF, LIKE, SHOULD WE BE SAYING [03:50:01] FOR FUTURE COUNCILS THAT WE ARE DESIGNATED THIS, DESIGNATING THIS FOR EMERGENCIES? OR SHOULD THEY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO IT? DO THEY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT ANYWAY? THEY, THEY WOULD HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT ANYWAY. OKAY. SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY, THAT WAS MY QUESTION. SO I WAS JUST CONFUSED. IT LOOKS OKAY. SO, ALL RIGHT. GOOD. THANK YOU ERIC. UM, AND THE REASON THAT I'M ASKING THAT IS, SO RECOMMENDATION ONE SAYS THAT IF WE DETERMINE C P S ENERGY PAYMENT IS UNUSUAL OUT OF THE ORDINARY OR ONE TIME IN NATURE. SO MY QUESTION WOULD BE, WHAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED UNUSUAL? BECAUSE IF WE THINK OF ENERGY PRICES AND WHAT THEY ARE, AND THE FACT THAT DEVELOPERS ARE BUILDING HOUSES A WHOLE LOT, SO THERE'S GONNA BE SOME ADDITIONAL ENERGY CUSTOMERS, WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA CONTINUE TO SEE AN INCREASE. SO WHAT DO WE DEEM UNUSUAL? 'CAUSE I FEEL, I FEEL THAT THAT COULD BE RELATIVE, RIGHT? YEAH. SO, SO WHAT WE WANNA DO IN PRACTICE, AND IF YOU COULD PULL UP SLIDE EIGHT FOR ME. SO IN SLIDE EIGHT, WE SHOWED YOU THE PERCENTAGE CHANGE OF THE CITY PAYMENT AGAINST OUR ADOPTED BUDGET FOR THAT LINE ITEM. AND WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS, IN PRACTICE, IF THAT VARIANCE AGAINST OUR ADOPTED BUDGET IS LESS THAN 10% OR LESS MM-HMM. , THAT JUST STAYS IN A NORMAL BUDGET PROCESS. SO, UM, IN 2011, WHEN IT'S AT 8%, IT JUST STAYS IN THE BUDGET PROCESS. WE'RE SMOOTHING IT OUT. 'CAUSE YOU CAN SEE IT'S DIPPING THE FOLLOWING YEAR. THAT'S ALL PART OF THE NORMAL GOAL SETTING BUDGET PROCESS THAT WE GO THROUGH. WE'RE SAYING IF IT'S ABOVE 10%, WE'RE TRIGGERING THIS POLICY, WHICH WOULD'VE HAPPENED IN OH EIGHT IF YOU LOOKED AT THE LAST 15 YEARS. 2010 MM-HMM. AND 2022. 'CAUSE IF I HAD THE 50 MILLION BACK IN, WE ARE ACTUALLY AT 23%. SO THOSE WOULD BE, IF WE'RE GETTING OUTSIDE OF 10% AGAINST THE ADOPTED BUDGET, SOMETHING CLEARLY HAS CHANGED PRETTY DRAMATICALLY. I SKIPPED 2014 BECAUSE OUR RATE INCREASE HAPPENED IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR FISCAL YEAR. GOT IT. AND THAT REALLY ISN'T AN ANOMALY THAT NEEDS TO GO INTO ONE TIME EXPENDITURES, THAT'S NOT GONNA BECOME PART OF OUR BASE BUDGET. SO WE WOULD PULL THAT BACK OUT. SO WE'RE GONNA USE THAT GUIDELINE, UH, IN ORDER TO TRIGGER, TRIGGER THIS POLICY CONVERSATION WITH YOU ALL. OKAY. UM, SO I THINK I UNDERSTAND THAT. I, I THINK THAT A RECOMMENDATION THAT COMES OUT OF THIS POTENTIAL POLICY SHOULD FOCUS ON EQUITABLE DISTRIBUTION. RIGHT. AND SO FOR SERVICES THAT BENEFIT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, OBVIOUSLY, BUT, UM, I DO THINK THAT THERE'S SOME DISTRICTS THAT EXPERIENCE SOME THINGS THAT OTHER DISTRICTS DON'T. RIGHT. AND SO I FEEL LIKE THERE'S SOME, UM, SOME AREAS WHERE WE NEED TO CLOSE THE GAP, FOR INSTANCE, IN DRAINAGE, UH, WE KNOW THAT SOME DISTRICTS NEED SOME ADDITIONAL DRAINAGE MORE THAN OTHERS. RIGHT. AND I'M JUST GIVING THAT AS AN EXAMPLE. BUT WE HEAR THIS IN THE COMMUNITY SURVEY YEARLY. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY WAY OF INTEGRATING, 'CAUSE IN YOUR RECOMMENDATION, IT DIDN'T NECESSARILY SAY THAT WE WOULD ALSO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE, UM, THE SURVEY THAT THAT FOLKS FILL OUT. RIGHT? SO IN THE SURVEY EVERY YEAR IN MY DISTRICT, FOR INSTANCE, IT HAPPENS TO BE ANIMAL CARE, IT HAPPENS TO BE HOUSING POLICE, LIKE THESE THREE, THREE THINGS OFTEN COME UP. BUT IN THERE IT SAYS THAT WE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION CITY'S OVERALL FINANCIAL POSITION, IMPACT ON SERVICE DELIVERY, BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY, AND RESPONSIBLE OWNERSHIP, MAYBE UNDER BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY. DO WE TAKE THE SURVEY IN MIND OR WILL ARE WE ALWAYS GONNA DO A SURVEY? SO I THINK COUNCILMAN, I, I WANNA BE CLEAR ON, ON ONE PART WAS JUST THAT, UM, IF WE GET ABOVE THAT 10% THRESHOLD AND, AND LET'S SAY THAT NUMBER'S $25 MILLION AND IT HAPPENS IN LATE JUNE, JULY, WE'RE PUTTING THE PROPOSED BUDGET TOGETHER, WE WOULD COME BACK TO YOU ALL AND SAY THERE'S $25 MILLION IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET THAT HAS TRIGGERED THIS POLICY CONVERSATION. MM-HMM. , WE'D HAVE A WORK SESSION WITH YOU, TALK ABOUT THE 25 MILLION, GET YOUR FEEDBACK. PERFECT. YOU COULD, SO WE COULD GIVE, WE COULD STILL DO THAT AT THAT POINT. WE WOULD THEN TAKE ALL THAT INCOME BACK TO YOU WITH A RECOMMENDATION ON THE 25 MILLION. OKAY. AFTER WE'VE HEARD FROM YOU. SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE THE NEW PART OF THIS POLICY. OKAY. AND THAT MAKES ME FEEL BETTER. AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND, UM, ON THE, UH, YOU TALKED ABOUT HOW, UM, THERE'S QUANTITATIVE AND QUALITATIVE AND SO AM I RIGHT IN LOOKING THAT MOODY'S USES 30% QUANTITATIVE AND SS B A, UH, SS AND P DOES 30%. SO IS THE OTHER 70% QUALITATIVE? UH, NO. WE WERE JUST GIVING YOU THE FINANCIAL METRICS. OH, GOT IT. THERE ARE SCORES ASSOCIATED WITH THE ECONOMY. UM, THEY CALL 'EM SOMETIMES INSTITUTIONAL FRAMEWORK. OUR GOVERNANCE COUNCIL MANAGER FORM OF GOVERNMENT FUNCTIONING IN THE STATE, THEY ASSIGN A SCORE TO THAT. SO WE WERE JUST FOCUSED ON THOSE THAT MAY BE MORE RELEVANT TO OUR BUDGET OR FINANCIAL RESERVES. BUT THEY HAVE A WHOLE SCORECARD THAT ADDS UP TO A HUNDRED PERCENT THAT IS QUANTITATIVE. OKAY. THEN OUTSIDE OF THAT, THEY CAN ADD QUALITATIVE FACTORS INTO THAT, THAT THEY CAN ADJUST, UH, RATINGS AND NOTCHING BASED ON. SO WOULD IT BE FAIR TO SAY THAT FOR THE QUALITATIVE PORTION OF IT, THEY USE AN ENVIRONMENTAL SCAN OF THE CITY? THEY'RE LOOKING AT [03:55:01] EVERYTHING FROM, UM, OUR FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT, OUR FINANCIAL POLICIES, UM, I THINK THEY'RE LOOKING AT HOW WE ADDRESS, UH, CHALLENGES AND ISSUES, YOU KNOW, UM, AND HOW WE'RE, HOW WE'RE ENGAGING IN THOSE. SO THERE'S A LOT THAT GOES INTO THAT, THAT THAT'S PART OF WHAT THEY LOOK AT. OKAY. UM, WELL, WELL THEN THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH, BEN. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA. AND ALSO, JUST TO SET THE CONTEXT, I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ANY FINANCIAL POLICIES. WHAT WE'RE DOING IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SOME GUIDEPOSTS NOT JUST FOR US, BUT FUTURE COUNCILS. AND ALSO IT SENDS A GOOD SIGNAL, UH, TO THIS, TO THOSE AGENCIES ABOUT WHAT WE INTEND TO DO WITH THOSE FUNDS. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTILLO, THANK YOU MAYOR, AND THANK YOU BEN FOR THE PRESENTATION. I, I REALLY VALUE THE DIALOGUE THAT'S TAKING PLACE WITH THE CONTINGENCY FUND. UM, WHAT COMES TO MIND IS, UH, EARLIER ON IN THE PANDEMIC ABOUT, LIKE, NOT EARLIER ON, BUT LIKE DURING MY FIRST TERM, UH, EARLY ON, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EVICTIONS AND RUNNING OUT OF, UM, MORTGAGE AND RENTAL ASSISTANCE, RIGHT? AND HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHERE CAN WE GET THOSE FUNDS FOR. UM, BUT THEN HAVING CONVERSATION THAT THE, THE RESERVES WASN'T NECESSARILY THAT PLACE, RIGHT? I THINK HAVING PARAMETERS OF WHAT EMERGE AN EMERGENCY IS AND WHAT CAUSE FOR US ACCESSING THOSE FUNDS, I THINK WOULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL. UM, WHEN GUIDING CONVERSATIONS, WHEN WE FIND OURSELVES IN THOSE SITUATIONS AS, UH, AS COUNCIL OR COUNCIL MEMBERS, RIGHT? THAT THERE'S THIS EMERGENCY AND THERE'S, WE NEED TO FIND FUNDING SOMEWHERE, UH, HAVING THOSE PARAMETERS WOULD BE HELPFUL. UM, MY NEXT QUESTION, WITH THE CURRENT CITY RESERVE POLICY AND THE BUDGETED FINANCIAL RESERVES, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH THE RESERVE FOR THE COPS GRANT, UM, WAS THAT DIRECTED BY CITY COUNCIL? AND WHO, UH, WHERE DID THIS DIRECTION COME FROM TO IDENTIFY WHAT'S BEING BUDGETED FOR THE FINANCIAL RESERVES? UH, YOUR FIRST PART WAS ON THE RESERVE FOR THE, I DIDN'T HEAR WHAT YOU, UH, FOR THE RESERVES FOR THE COPS GRANT ON SLIDE 11. OH, MY, MY QUESTION IS, WHO PROVIDES DIRECTION ON, UM, THE ITEMS THAT ARE UNDER THE RESERVES? SO COUNCILMAN, WE PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS AS PART OF THE PROPOSED BUDGET. SO AS WE ARE REVIEWING THE FINANCIAL POLICIES, RIGHT NOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGETED RESERVES, BUT YOU'LL SEE ON THE BUDGET DOCUMENT, WE HAVE A BUDGETED RESERVE FOR SA FORWARD, AND WE ALSO HAVE A BUDGETED RESERVE FOR THE CAPS GRANT. MM-HMM. . SO THOSE ARE PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS THAT THE COUNCIL ADOPTS, UM, DURING THE ADOPTION PROCESS. MM-HMM. AND, AND COUNCILWOMAN, JUST REAL QUICK, UM, SO WHEN, WHEN, WHEN WE, WHEN WE GO AFTER THOSE LARGE GRANTS MM-HMM. AND WE KNOW THERE'S GONNA BE IMPACT YEAH. TO THE GENERAL FUND PART OF OUR POLICY CONVERSATION, BOTH AT THE AGENDA, BOTH AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL WHEN THEY APPROVE, YOU APPROVE THE GRANTS AND IN THE BUDGET, IS THAT WE SMOOTH THAT OUT OVER TIME SO THAT WE'VE, WE'VE GOT MONEY SET ASIDE. OKAY. SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE WERE TO RECEIVE THE GRANT, THAT MONEY JUST GOES BACK INTO THE GENERAL BUCKET OF RESERVES. IS, IS THAT WHAT HAPPENS IF THE, WHAT COUNCILMAN? LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, IF THERE, IF, IF THE COPS GRANT IS RECEIVED, UM, AWARDED, DOES THAT EARMARK GO BACK INTO THE GENERAL BUCKET FOR THE RESERVES? OR IS IT REALLOCATED TO SOMETHING ELSE WITHIN THE SAME DEPARTMENT? AND, AND I'M GONNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION. THAT RESERVE IS FOR GRANTS THAT WE ALREADY RECEIVED. SO WE JUST RESERVING THE MONEY. 'CAUSE AS YOU MAY RECALL, THE WAY THAT THE COPS GRANT WORKS MM-HMM. , WE, UH, GET FUNDING FOR FOUR YEARS FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ON THE FIFTH YEAR. WE HAVE TO ABSORB THE COST A HUNDRED PERCENT. SO WE RESERVE SOME OF THAT MONEY SO WE CAN BALANCE OR SMOOTH OUT THE BUDGET AS THE, AS THE MANAGER SAID. SO WHEN WE GET TO THAT FIFTH YEAR, WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY AND IT'S SMOOTHER FOR THE GENERAL FUND TO PICK UP THE FULL COST. SO IT GOES INTO THE OPERATING BUDGET, NOT THE RESERVE. OKAY. GREAT. GREAT. THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING AN UNDERSTANDING. UM, MY NEXT QUESTION IS WITH RECOMMENDATION ONE, HOW IS THIS PROCESS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT TOOK PLACE WITH THE, THE SURPLUS THAT WE SAW WITH C P S AND HOW WE ULTIMATELY, UM, VOTED TO APPROVE REBATES? SO LET ME, LET ME ANSWER THAT ONE. SO, 'CAUSE 'CAUSE WHAT BEN DESCRIBED IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED LAST SUMMER. UHHUH . AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER YEARS WHERE YOU HAD THOSE SPIKES, THEY WERE GENERALLY IN THE SUMMER. SO IF THAT POLICY HAD BEEN IN PLACE, AND WE, 'CAUSE WE, WHEN WE DID THE FIVE YEAR FI, UH, THE MID-YEAR BUDGET AND THE FIVE-YEAR FINANCIAL FORECAST, WE REPORTED THE COUNCIL, WE WERE GONNA BE $35 MILLION OVER BUDGET FOR CCPS. MM-HMM. , THAT NUMBER CONTINUED TO GROW AT THE END OF MAY, JUNE, JULY, BEGINNING OF AUGUST. AND THEN HERE COMES THE CITY MANAGER, UH, WITH A PROPOSED BUDGET. HAD THIS BEEN IN PLACE, WE WOULD'VE ONLY INCLUDED THE FIRST 10% OF THE BUDGET OF, OF OUR ADOPTED BUDGET INTO THE PROPOSED RECOMMENDATION. AND JUST LIKE WE HAD LAST YEAR, THE, REMEMBER YOUR FIRST BUDGET WORK SESSION WAS ON THE, ON THE $50 MILLION FOR C P S. MM-HMM. , WE WOULD'VE SCHEDULED THE FIRST BUDGET WORK SESSION FOR THE COUNCIL TO GIVE FEEDBACK TO THE, AND HAVE THE GENERAL CONVERSATION [04:00:01] ON WHAT TO DO WITH THAT MONEY AND, AND IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN INCLUDED WITHIN THE PROPOSED BUDGET. SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE EFFECT OF WHAT BEN IS LAYING OUT. OKAY. YEAH. 'CAUSE THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY NEXT QUESTION, RIGHT? IF IT'S, UM, WITH, WITH RECOMMENDATION ONE, CAN COUNCIL BE CONSULTED TO GIVE OUR INPUT ON WHAT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR, UH, THAT FUNDING, UH, CAN BE USED FOR PRIOR TO RECOMMENDATIONS BEING PROVIDED TO COUNCIL? WELL, THAT'S WHAT I JUST DESCRIBED. YEAH. I JUST WANTED CLARIFICATION. YEAH. WHAT DESCRIBED? YES. OKAY. SO, SO UP TO 10, UP TO 10% IF IT'S 12% MM-HMM. , RIGHT. AND, AND WE, WE GET A LARGE, WE SEE WHATEVER CONDITIONS CHANGE IN JULY MM-HMM. THAT INCREMENT ABOVE THE 10% WE WOULD SET ASIDE IN THE, WE WOULD APPROPRIATE IT IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET AND INCLUDED IN ALL THE NUMBERS. BUT THAT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE COUNCIL'S CONVERSATION, UH, ABOUT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH THAT. OKAY. OKAY. I, I THINK, RIGHT. 'CAUSE WHEN I, I, I REFLECT BACK ON THAT, IT SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS A, A FIXED PROPOSAL PRESENTED TO COUNCIL. UM, AND, AND I WANNA BE SURE THAT THERE IS MORE INPUT AND ENGAGEMENT PRIOR TO LIKE, THIS IS THE PLAN. NO, I, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND, BUT I'VE GOT AN OBLIGATION TO LAY OUT A PROPOSED BALANCED BUDGET TO YOU. SO I TOOK WHAT I HAD AND LAID IT OUT, BUT, BUT IN ORDER TO AVOID THAT SITUATION, THAT'S WHY WE'RE DEVELOPING THE PO POLICY FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION SO THAT WE AVOID THAT IN THE FUTURE. IT, AND I, I UNDERSTAND, RIGHT. BUT JUST THE, THE FACT THAT ULTIMATELY AS COUNSEL, WE SHAPE AND DIRECT RIGHT. AND I WANNA BE SURE THAT, UM, WE'RE NOT DIRECTING A PLAN THAT WAS GIVEN AND DIRECTED TO US , IF THAT MAKES SENSE. WELL, I GUESS THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING YOU FOR YES. FOR INPUT ON THIS POLICY NOW SO THAT WE DON'T FIND OURSELVES IN THAT POSITION. ALL RIGHT. SOUNDS GOOD. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. THANKS MAYOR. THANKS, ERIC. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTILLO. COUNCIL MEMBER. BRAVO. THANK YOU, BEN. I WANTED TO CHECK IN WITH YOU ON THIS BUDGET RESERVE. AND I'M WONDERING, OKAY, THE MORE THAT WE SAVE NOW IN THE RESERVE, WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS THE EFFECT THERE ON THE LONG-TERM COST OF GOVERNMENT? AND SO, FOR EXAMPLE, LORI HOUSTON PRESENTED ON THE HOME OF STRATEGIC PLAN, AND SHE TALKED ABOUT HOW SOME OF THESE INVESTMENTS ARE GONNA SAVE US $50 MILLION IN THE FUTURE, RIGHT? AND SO IF WE DON'T INVEST MORE IN ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS NOW, WHAT ARE WE GONNA HAVE TO SPEND LONG TERM ON HOMELESSNESS? UH, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T ADDRESS SOME OF THE ROOT CAUSES, OR BECAUSE WE DIDN'T SOLVE SOME OF THESE ISSUES EARLY ON. AND WHAT ARE WE GONNA SPEND, FOR INSTANCE, ON, UH, EMERGENCY SERVICES RESPONDING TO A LOT OF ISSUES OF INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE LIVING ON THE STREET, OR, UM, IF WE DON'T INVEST MORE IN ANIMAL CARE SERVICES RIGHT NOW, WHAT ARE WE GONNA SPEND CHASING LOOSE ANIMALS IN THE FUTURE? UM, IF WE DON'T, IF WE DON'T INVEST MORE IN ROOT CAUSES OF CRIME RIGHT NOW, WHAT ARE WE GONNA SPEND IN LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THE FUTURE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY OR ADDRESSING PUBLIC SAFETY IN THE FUTURE? AND SO THAT'S, I GUESS THAT'S MY QUESTION ABOUT SAVING MORE RIGHT NOW IN A RESERVE. WHAT DOES THAT DO TO OUR LONG TERM COST OF GOVERNMENT? SO TWO THINGS I WOULD, UM, SAY, THEY'RE ONE, OBVIOUSLY, IF WE CAN MAINTAIN OUR EXCELLENT CREDIT RATINGS, WHATEVER THE MARKET LOOKS LIKE, WHEREVER INTEREST RATES ARE, WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO BORROW FUNDS AT A LOWER COST. AND WE'VE GOT BIGGER BOND PROGRAMS THAT, THAT WE HAVE BEEN PURSUING. SO THAT LOWERS OUR OVERALL COST. UM, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE INDIRECT BENEFIT OF RATINGS SOMETIMES. SO THE, SO THE RATING I'M TALKING ABOUT HERE IS OUR GENERAL OBLIGATION PROPERTY TAX SUPPORTED FULL FAITH AND CREDIT OF THE CITY RATING AS WE DE AS WE WORK ON OTHER PROJECTS, OTHER PROGRAMS, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, THE AIRPORT HAVING A HIGHER, UM, GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND RATING, PARENT RATING INDIRECTLY KIND OF HELPS US WITH THESE OTHER PROGRAMS. SO OVERALL, IT HELPS US MANAGE OUR COST OF BORROWING. THE OTHER ONE, I'M GONNA HAVE A HARDER TIME, UH, PUTTING A DOLLAR VALUE ON, BUT REALLY IT'S TRYING TO PUT US IN A POSITION TO DEAL WITH WHAT YOU CAN'T SEE COMING. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT EITHER CATASTROPHIC WEATHER EVENTS, CYBER RISK, WHATEVER THOSE LOOK LIKE, WE WANT TO TRY TO POSITION THE CITY SO THAT WE'VE GOT SUFFICIENT RESERVES TO BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH THAT. UM, AND TO MAKE SURE WE CAN CONTINUE TO FUNCTION AS A GOVERNMENT AND PROVIDE SERVICES. UM, IT COULD BE, UM, A WEATHER EVENT WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE TIMING ON, ON US GETTING REIMBURSED FOR FUNDS IS TAKING A LONG TIME, AND WE'RE HAVING TO MANAGE THAT. AGAIN, THE THINGS THAT WE THINK ABOUT FROM 2015 TO NOW, UH, IT, IT'S EASY TO LOOK BACK IN HISTORY AND PLAN FOR THINGS THAT YOU CAN KIND OF SEE COMING OR MAKE BE MAYBE COMING. IT'S THE UNPREDICTABLE, UNFORESEEN STUFF THAT WE'VE GOTTA BE PREPARED FOR. SO IT'S MAKING US MORE RESILIENT, IF YOU WANNA LOOK AT IT THAT WAY. YEAH. UM, SO I, I MEAN, I GUESS I'M INTERESTED IN SEEING SOME KIND OF COST COMPARISON. LIKE WHAT DO WE SAVE BY BEING ABLE TO BORROW FOR LESS VERSUS WHAT DO WE SAVE BY INVESTING UPFRONT RIGHT NOW IN SOLVING OUR, OUR CHALLENGES? UM, [04:05:01] BUT YOU REALLY SET ME UP FOR MY OTHER ISSUE. UM, AND IT'S TALKING ABOUT THE C P SS ENERGY REVENUES AS A ONETIME, YOU KNOW, THE SPIKES AS ONETIME ISSUES OR ANOMALIES. UM, YOU KNOW, AND I, I CAN'T HELP BUT THINK ABOUT THE CLIMATE SCIENTIST, CATHERINE HAYHOE, WHO THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO'S HIRED BEFORE TO HELP US WITH OUR GREENHOUSE GAS INVENTORY. AND CATHERINE HAYHOE TELLS A STORY ABOUT HOW YOU CAN BE, YOU CAN DRIVE THE, THE, THE ROADS IN WEST TEXAS. SOMETIMES THE HIGHWAYS ARE SO STRAIGHT FOR SUCH A LONG AMOUNT OF TIME THAT YOU CAN DRIVE BY NOT LOOKING AT THE ROAD, BUT JUST BY LOOKING IN YOUR REAR VIEW MIRROR, YOU CAN STAY IN YOUR LANE AND JUST, JUST BY DOING THAT, BECAUSE OF THE ROADS ARE SO STRAIGHT FOR SO LONG. AND SO YOU CAN USE THE HISTORY OF WHERE YOU'VE BEEN TO PREDICT WHERE YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU NEED TO BE. BUT YOU JUST MENTIONED CATASTROPHIC WEATHER THAT WE WANT TO HAVE RESERVES FOR, YOU KNOW, WITH CATASTROPHIC WEATHER, WITH, WITH SEVERE WEATHER, YOU KNOW, CLIMATE SCIENTISTS ARE TELLING US YOU CAN NO LONGER DO THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA GET TO A POINT WHERE, AN INFLECTION POINT WHERE THERE'S A TURN IN THE ROAD AND, AND JUST LIKE THAT, LOOKING AT OUR, THE HISTORY OF OUR WEATHER. YOU KNOW, WE'RE AT THAT INFLECTION POINT NOW AND WE'RE GONNA SEE, SEE MORE SEVERE WEATHER. AND SO I, I JUST DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE LAST C P S ENERGY, REVENUE SURPLUS THAT WE SAW IS A ONE-TIME EVENT OR AN ANOMALY. AND I THINK WE'RE GONNA SEE A LOT MORE OF THAT. AND SO I DON'T, I JUST DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH US DESCRIBING IT THAT WAY. WELL, I THINK COUNCILMAN, WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS WHEN YOU LOOK BACK AT THE LAST 15 YEARS WITH THIS POLICY IN PLACE, IT WOULD'VE BEEN TRIGGERED THREE TIMES. I CERTAINLY CAN'T PREDICT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE GOING FORWARD. UM, BUT THE POLICY WOULD BE IN PLACE THAT WOULD ALLOW YOU THAT IN THE EVENT WE EXCEEDED 10% OF THAT BUDGET, YOU WOULD HAVE THE POLICY CONVERSATION ON THAT AMOUNT, AMOUNT THAT EXCEEDED IT. SO WE'RE TRYING TO, AS ERIC MENTIONED, UM, ADDRESS SOME OF WHAT HAPPENED LAST SUMMER. LAST SUMMER WHEN WE WERE AT THE TRIAL BUDGET, I THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA BE ABOUT $35 MILLION OVER THE ADOPTED BUDGET, BUT IT GOT HOT AND IT STAYED HOT. AND, AND AS YOU KNOW, THE TRIPLE DIGITS STAYED ALL THE WAY THROUGH SEPTEMBER. UM, AND THEN WE LAYERED IN ON TOP OF THAT HIGH NATURAL GAS PRICES THAT CONTINUED TO CLIMB THROUGH THE SUMMER. THOSE TWO THINGS COMBINED FOR US TO, TO THEN BE IN A SITUATION WHERE I'M GOING TO THE CITY MANAGER IN JULY AND SAYING, LOOK, IT'S NOT 35 MILLION ANYMORE. IT LOOKS MORE LIKE THIS. AND IT CHANGED PRETTY QUICKLY. AND AGAIN, 40% OF OUR REVENUE COMES IN THERE ON A YEAR LIKE THAT. 45% OF OUR REVENUE, OR 44% OF IT CAME IN IN THOSE FOUR MONTHS. SO THIS POLICY ALLOWS YOU ALL TO HAVE THAT POLICY CONVERSATION. AS ERIC SAID, IF, IF, IF IN THAT SCENARIO WHEN I HIT THE 10% AND TRIGGERED IT IN JULY, THE PROPOSED BUDGET WOULD'VE COME TO YOU AND SAID, THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY IS OVER THE 10% OF THE ADOPTED BUDGET, WE'RE GONNA SCHEDULE A WORK SESSION. WE'RE GONNA GET FEEDBACK FROM YOU BEFORE WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON WHAT TO DO WITH THAT. SO THAT WOULD BE THE CHANGE FROM LAST SUMMER. I CAN'T TELL YOU THIS IS GONNA HELP ME BETTER PREDICT WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE OVER THE NEXT, UH, COUPLE OF YEARS WITH C P S REVENUES, BUT IT AT LEAST GIVES US A GUIDELINE AND A GUIDEPOST IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'LL DO WHEN IT HAPPENS. IF IT HAPPENS, IT GIVES THAT FLEXIBILITY TO YOU GUYS. OKAY. SO, UM, WOULD IT MAKE SENSE FOR US TO BE GETTING FINANCIAL REPORTS FROM C P S ENERGY MORE FREQUENTLY? I GET 'EM PRETTY, PRETTY FREQUENTLY. BUT AGAIN, MY, MY, MY CONCERN WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THOSE AND, AND WATCHING THOSE, WE'RE WATCHING WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE PAYMENT. WE'RE WATCHING THE FUEL FACTORS, WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL OF THAT. BUT AGAIN, THAT, THAT BULK OF THAT REVENUE'S GONNA COME IN IN THOSE FOUR MONTHS, AND IT CAN TURN IN THOSE FOUR MONTHS. WE HAVE SEEN IT WHERE IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GONNA BE REALLY HIGH IN MAY AND JUNE, AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S NOT. AND SO WE WANT TO BE CAREFUL WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE BUDGET IN THAT, IN THAT TIMEFRAME. THIS POLICY HELPS US WITH THAT. BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'RE NOT HAVING TO TRY TO EXACTLY, IN, IN A, IN A CHANGING ENVIRONMENT LIKE THAT, PINPOINT THAT IN MAY, MAYBE EARLY IF IT HAPPENS IN JUNE OR JULY. THIS GIVES US THE FLEXIBILITY TO HAVE, ALLOW YOU TO HAVE THAT POLICY CONVERSATION WITH THE WORK SESSION AND, AND HAVE, UNLESS YOU HAVE THAT INPUT ON THAT AMOUNT, THAT GETS OUTSIDE THE 10%. GOT IT. THANK YOU. THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER. BRAVO. UH, AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE ARRIVED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, WE WILL HAVE THAT JUST MOMENTARILY AS SOON AS WE CONCLUDE OUR V SESSION. THANKS FOR YOUR PATIENCE. COUNCIL MEMBER. COURAGE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UH, BEN, I THINK THAT WHAT YOU'VE JUST SAID ABOUT, UM, HAVING A POLICY DISCUSSION WILL OCCUR ANYWAY BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WILL DEMAND IT IF WE HAVE ANOTHER YEAR, LIKE THIS YEAR, UH, WHERE THERE WAS AN EXORBITANT AMOUNT OF REVENUE COMING IN. I THINK THE, THE BENEFIT OF THE POLICY THOUGH, AS, AS IT'S BEEN WRITTEN, IS MAYBE TO [04:10:01] REASSURE THE STATE LEGISLATURE THAT C P S ENERGY OR SAWS OR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO IS GOING TO BE MORE RESPONSIBLE. THEREFORE, WE DON'T NEED THEM PUTTING SOME KIND OF A LEASH ON US. FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, I THINK IT COULD BE A VERY IMPORTANT POLICY, BUT FROM THE EXPLANATION OF HOW IT'S GOING TO BE, BE PUT IN PLACE, IT'LL BE JUST LIKE WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR. WE WILL SIT DOWN AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT IT. WHAT I THINK IS A, A BETTER, UH, PART OF WHAT'S BEING OFFERED THOUGH IS THE CITY STAFF IS NOT GONNA COME OUT AND TELL US, THIS IS WHAT WE THINK YOU SHOULD DO. THEY'RE GONNA COME OUT AND TELL US WE NEED TO SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT THIS. AND I THINK THAT WOULD'VE BEEN A BETTER WAY TO DO IT LAST TIME. AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD WAY TO DO IT IN THE FUTURE. SO I, I REALLY SEE A BENEFIT, UH, FOR US ACCEPTING THAT PARTICULAR POLICY. NOW, THE OTHER POLICY ON, UM, ON LOOKING AT OUR RESERVES, I, I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. OH, NO, LET ME GO BACK TO, UH, C P S FOR A SECOND. WHAT IS C P S FORECASTED TO COSA RIGHT NOW IN THIS BUDGET YEAR, OUR BUDGET FOR 2023 IS $391.8 MILLION. OKAY. AND IS THAT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE PUT INTO OUR BUDGET, OR IS THAT OVER WHAT WE PUT INTO OUR BUDGET? THAT'S OUR ADOPTED BUDGET FOR FFY 23. BUT WHAT ARE THEY FORECASTING PAYING TO THE CITY IN THEIR 2324 BUDGET? 'CAUSE THEIRS IS NOT EXACTLY THE SAME BUDGET YEAR AS OURS. I, I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND PULL THAT. I DON'T HAVE THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY, BECAUSE I'M WONDERING IF THEY'RE ALREADY SEEING, AND I THINK YOU'VE ALLUDED TO THAT, MORE REVENUE THAN THEY ORIGINALLY ANTICIPATED. SO WE'RE UP AGAINST THE ADOPTED BUDGET, BUT AS I MENTIONED ON, ON THE SLIDE, ON THE NATURAL GAS PRICES, WHAT WE HAVE BEEN WATCHING IS THAT HAS BEEN FALLING PRETTY DRAMATICALLY. UM, AND, AND BASED ON THE E I A FORECAST, WE WOULD EXPECT THAT TO STAY IN, THAT THEY'RE EXPECTING IT TO STAY IN THAT RANGE. WELL, IF YOU COULD LET US KNOW OR LET ME KNOW, I'D LIKE TO KNOW. SURE. NOW, UH, GOING TO THE, UM, THE RESERVES, UM, HAVE WE HEARD ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANY OF THE RATING AGENCIES THAT HAVE SAID, UH, YOU NEED TO HAVE MORE IN RESERVE? NO, THEY HAVE NOT TALKED ABOUT IT SPECIFICALLY IN OUR POLICY AS IT RELATES TO OUR ENDING BALANCE OF 15%. IF YOU LOOK AT THE RATING REPORTS, UM, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF THE, THE USAGE OF THE WORD RESERVE. MM-HMM. , YOU'LL SEE THINGS LIKE, UH, FACTORS THAT COULD HAVE, COULD, UH, LEAD TO A DOWNGRADE, UH, A DECLINE IN THE CITY'S RESERVES. AND SOMETIMES WHAT THEY'RE REFERRING TO IS NOT OUR 15%, BUT WHERE WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN THE 17, 18, 19 20% THAT WE ARE ENDING UP AT, THEY'RE WANTING US TO STAY IN THAT RANGE. OKAY. SO WE'RE WITH THIS POLICY, TRYING TO GET A MORE FORMAL PROCESS IN PLACE IN TERMS OF HOW WE MAINTAIN, UH, AN ADEQUATE LEVEL OF RESERVE FOR THE SIZE OF ORGANIZATION WE HAVE AND THE RISK THAT WE HAVE. OKAY. AND I KNOW THAT PART OF WHAT WE ALLUDE TO IS THAT WE DON'T WANNA SEE OUR RATINGS FALL, WHICH WILL COST US MORE IN THE LONG TERM FOR BORROWING. OKAY. UM, BUT CAN YOU TELL ME, AND I THINK IT'D BE IMPORTANT FOR US TO KNOW IN ASSESSING A STEP FORWARD, WE SHOULD TAKE HOW MANY OF THE TOP 100 CITIES, UH, AND WHICH ONES HAVE BEEN DOWNGRADED OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS BY MAYBE TWO OR THREE OF THOSE AGENCIES. BECAUSE I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING. WE DON'T WANT TO BE DOWNGRADED HOW MUCH, HOW MANY HAVE BEEN DOWNGRADED? UH, ARE WE IN A DANGEROUS SITUATION? ARE WE IN A BETTER SITUATION? ARE THEY ACTUALLY DOING A LOT OF DOWNGRADING OR IS THIS, UM, MAYBE, UH, A FEAR FACTOR THAT WE, WE DON'T KNOW HOW IT MIGHT TURN OUT? SO, AND, AND I KNOW YOU MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO LOOK AT A HUNDRED CITIES, BUT CERTAINLY YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THE TOP 20 OR 30, AND HOW MANY OF THEM HAVE REALLY BEEN DOWNGRADED CONSIDERING WE ALL WENT THROUGH A TERRIBLE THREE YEAR PERIOD. AND, AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT ARE THE BUDGET RESERVES THAT THOSE CITIES HAVE, AND HAS THAT AFFECTED THEIR DOWNGRADE? IN OTHER WORDS, DOES SOMEBODY ELSE HAVE A 10% OR 15%, OR DO THEY EVEN HAVE A 20% AND STILL GET DOWNGRADED? SO IF, IF WE ARE GOING TO MAKE A DECISION TO EXPAND OUR RESERVES, I THINK WE OUGHT TO BE BENCHMARKING THAT DECISION ON WHAT OTHER CITIES HAVE BEEN FACING AND LOOKING AT FROM THE SAME KIND OF RATING AGENCIES THAT WE ARE. WE ARE NOT EVERYBODY ELSE, BUT STILL, I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE SENSIBLE FOR US TO LOOK AT THAT, BECAUSE IN THE LONG RUN, WHAT WE'RE DOING WHEN WE RAISE OUR RESERVES IS WE, WE LOWER THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO PROVIDE SERVICES FOR PEOPLE IN THE CITY. IF WE RAISE THE RESERVES 5%, I DON'T [04:15:01] KNOW, I'M TAKING A GUESS THAT COULD BE $60 MILLION ADDITIONAL OUT OF A YEAR'S BUDGET. AND WHAT WON'T WE DO WITH NOT HAVING THAT EXTRA $60 MILLION SET ASIDE IN THAT YEAR'S BUDGET? SO, YOU KNOW, I, THAT'S WHY I'D LIKE TO HAVE SOME OF THIS INFORMATION, LET'S SAY THE TOP 20 CITIES, SO THAT I CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE WILLING TO DO OR WHY WE NEED TO DO THAT. SURE. I CAN, I, I CAN PULL SOME OF THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU. I CAN SHARE, I DON'T HAVE THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. SURE. IN TERMS OF OTHER CITIES, I CAN TELL YOU, FOR EXAMPLE, UNDER MOODY'S SCORECARD, UM, WHEN THEY SCORE YOU ON THE, ON THE QUANTITATIVE PART, YOU'RE GONNA FALL BASED ON WHERE YOUR FUND BALANCE IS. FOR EXAMPLE, YOU'LL EITHER BE IN A AAA BRACKET, A AA BRACKET, OR A SINGLE A BRACKET, OR IN THE AA BRACKET TO GET TO AAA BRACKET, YOU'D HAVE TO BE AT 35% A CITY OF OUR SIZE. THAT'S NOT GONNA BE ACHIEVABLE. I THINK THEY UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT I CAN EVEN GIVE YOU, UM, SOME INFORMATION ON WHAT MEDIANS LOOK LIKE FOR AAA CITIES, UH, UM, SOMETHING CLOSER TO OUR SIZE, SO WE CAN PULL SOME OF THAT DATA AS WELL. BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S TWO THINGS. IT'S ONE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE'D LIKE TO KEEP THE EXCELLENT, UM, CREDIT RATINGS WE'VE GOT. SOME OF THAT'S GONNA BE BASED ON OUR FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE. SOME OF IT'S OUTSIDE OF OUR CONTROL. THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE BUILT INTO OUR ECONOMY THAT DON'T REALLY LEND ITSELF TO US HAVING THAT HIGH ACCREDIT RATING. UM, THINGS WE CAN'T CONTROL. SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING A GOOD JOB OF, OF MANAGING AND CONTROLLING THE THINGS THAT WE CAN SO THAT WE CAN STAY THERE AND LOWER OUR COST OF BORROWING. THE OTHER THING WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS JUST MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE HAVE THE RESOURCES AND THE RESERVES AND THE THINGS SET IN PLACE THAT IN THE EVENT THE THINGS THAT WE CAN'T EXPECT ARE HAPPENING, THAT WE'RE IN A POSITION THAT THE CITY CAN ADAPT, ADJUST, AND WE CAN OPERATE AND FUNCTION AND DELIVER SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY. SO IT'S REALLY TWO THINGS WE'RE FOCUSED ON THERE, BUT I'LL PULL SOME MORE OF THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU AND, AND, AND PUT THAT TOGETHER. THANK YOU, . THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE. COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BEN, FOR PUTTING ALL THIS STUFF TOGETHER. UM, UH, I THINK YOU'VE HEARD A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS RESERVE BUSINESS, AND I TOO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HAVING A LARGER RESERVE. I MEAN, YOU CAN GO IN AND SAY, WELL, WE'RE GONNA HAVE, WE COULD HAVE A CATASTROPHIC FLOOD, OR WE COULD HAVE A FIRE DOWNTOWN THAT SHUTS DOWN ALL OF DOWNTOWN, OR YOU CAN IF THIS FOREVER. BUT I, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD START INCREASING OUR RESERVE BECAUSE OF ALL THESE IFS. I MEAN, IF THERE'S STRONG EVIDENCE THAT SAYS WE HAVE TO INCREASE THIS TO MAINTAIN OUR CREDIT RATING, THAT KIND OF THING. I MEAN, WE'VE MAINTAINED OUR CREDIT RATING WITH WHAT WE'VE DONE TO DATE. UM, SO THIS IS TAXPAYER MONEY, AND I LIKEN IT TO THE STATE WHERE THEY HAVE THIS HUGE, BIG SURPLUS AND, YOU KNOW, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ACTUALLY GIVING IT BACK IN HOMESTEAD, UH, EXEMPTIONS, THAT KIND OF THING, BACK TO THE TAXPAYERS. UM, THEY'RE LOOKING AT SPENDING OTHERS WE SHOULDN'T GET IN THAT WE SHOULD BE USING THE TAXPAYER FUNDS TO OPERATE AND MAINTAIN THIS CITY THE WAY THEIR EXPECTATIONS ARE AND NOT BUILD UP THIS BANK ACCOUNT FOR WHAT IF, UH, ISSUES. I MEAN, IF SOMETHING CATASTROPHIC HAPPENS, WHAT WOULD WE DO? YOU, YOU KNOW, WE SPEND THROUGH THE, THE RESERVE AND THEN WE START DOING COSS OR WHATEVER TO GET OURSELVES BACK WHOLE, UM, AND CREATE DEBT OR FIND OTHER, OTHER SOURCES OF REVENUE, UH, TO, TO GET OUTTA THE SITUATION. SO I'M, I'M AGAINST INCREASING OUR RESERVE BECAUSE OF ALL THAT. UM, I, I DON'T SEE THE REQUIREMENT FOR IT OTHER THAN WHAT IF, WHAT IF, UM, YOU CAN, WHAT IF ALL DAY LONG AND, AND CREATE ALL KIND OF CATASTROPHES IN YOUR MIND THAT, YEAH, WE NEED TO, WE NEED A HUNDRED MILLION, WE NEED 200 MILLION, WE NEED 500 MILLION IN THE BANK ACCOUNT FOR WHAT IF CONCERNS. AND I, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD GET INTO THAT SCENARIO. SO I, I THINK WE KEEP IT AS IS. UH, WE'VE DONE JUST FINE. SPEAKING OF WHICH, WHEN, WHEN'S THE LAST TIME THAT WE DID TAP INTO THE RESERVES? WE HAVE NOT DROPPED BELOW THE 15% SINCE, UM, I THINK IT WAS 2012. OKAY. SO I, I, WE WENT THROUGH A PANDEMIC HERE AND WE DIDN'T EVEN REACH INTO IT. SO I, I, I, I THINK THAT'S A MISTAKE IN TRYING TO GO HIGHER WITH THAT, WITH THAT RESERVE. SPEAKING OF WHICH, UH, YOU KNEW I WAS GONNA SAY, WE NEED TO BUMP UP OUR HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION TO 20% MAX IT OUT JUST LIKE THE COUNTY DID. LET'S FOLLOW THE COUNTY AND, UH, MAX OUT OUR HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION HERE. UM, YOU KNOW, THAT COUPLED WITH WHAT THE COUNTY HAS DONE, WHAT THE STATE IS CURRENTLY DOING, REALLY MEETS MEANS, UH, IT IT'S REALLY MEANINGFUL TO THE HOMEOWNERS HERE IN TOWN, AND IT'S A FORM OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. LET'S GIVE IT, LET'S [04:20:01] GIVE IT BACK TO THOSE THAT ARE PAYING INTO THOSE ACCOUNTS. UM, I, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT INCREASING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE SPENDING HERE FOR THE, FOR THE CITY. I'VE TALKED ABOUT INCREASING OUR E M SS UNITS YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR. THAT'S WHERE, UH, THE MAJORITY OF OUR CALLS ARE ON THE FIRE AND, AND E M S SIDE. UM, AND THEN, UM, INCREASING OUR NAMP FUNDING. WE'VE, WE'VE, THAT'S STUFF THAT I'M GONNA BE BRINGING UP AGAIN WHEN WE GET INTO THE DETAILS. BUT, UM, THAT GIVES US ADDITIONAL FLEXIBILITY TO HELP OUT OUR DISTRICTS. NOW LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT C P S. UM, LOOKING AT YOUR CHARTS, I LIKE THE CHART NUMBER SEVEN MORE THAN NUMBER EIGHT, BECAUSE AGAIN, PERCENTAGES, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF AMOUNTS OF MONEY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. SEVEN REALLY SHOWS THE AMOUNTS OF MONEY THAT, UH, UM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE ON THE INCREASES. AND, UH, UM, IN, IN THIS, WHEN WE APPROVE THAT LAST RATE INCREASE, I VOTED AGAINST IT. UH, BUT WHEN THAT WAS THAT THREE, WAS IT THREE, THREE AND A HALF PERCENT RATE INCREASE FROM C P S? IT WAS 3.85%, I BELIEVE. OKAY. SO WE'RE RIGHT AT 4%. WHEN WAS THAT APPROVED? UH, FOR WHAT YEAR? 2021. FALL OF 21. OKAY. OKAY. FOR 22 2 EARLY 22, YES. OKAY. UM, SO IN THEIR CHARTS, DIDN'T THEY LAY IN ANOTHER 5% INCREASE IN WHAT YEAR IS THAT SCHEDULED TO COME OUT? THAT WOULD'VE BEEN THEIR UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR. THAT WOULD START NEXT, UM, NEXT FEBRUARY. SO IT'D BE THEIR F Y 24. OKAY. SO THE BUDGET YEAR WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE. DOES THIS, DOES THAT, IS THAT REFLECTED IN THIS CHART HERE FOR THE, NO, SIR. THIS IS HISTORICAL 22 BACK TO 20 2008. OKAY. SO THESE ARE ON HISTORICAL NUMBERS. SO WITH A 5% INCREASE, HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL REVENUE WILL COME INTO THE CITY? I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER. OKAY. OKAY. WELL, IT'S, IT, IT'LL BE SIGNIFICANT. AND THEN ANOTHER TWO YEARS AFTER THAT, ANOTHER 5%. SO A 10% RATE INCREASE, UH, FOR C P S OVER THE NEXT FOUR YEARS. I THINK THAT'S THE WAY IT'S LAID IN RIGHT NOW. UM, OR, OR OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS. SO, UM, A LOT OF ADDITIONAL REVENUE COMING INTO THE CITY BECAUSE WE COLLECT 14% OF THEIR REVENUE. RIGHT. UM, WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GONNA SUBSTANTIALLY GET ADDITIONAL REVENUE. SO YES, I'M FOR THIS, UH, POLICY OF REVIEWING WHAT'S COMING INTO THE CITY FROM C P S AND SAWS AS WELL. I MEAN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE OUT THERE AS WELL THAT, UH, UH, THEY GIVE US A PORTION OF THEIR REVENUE AS WELL. WHAT, WHAT IS THAT AMOUNT? 4%? 4%. 33 MILLION. SO YEAH, 33 MILLION THIS YEAR. SO WE'RE TALKING SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNTS OF MONEY COMING TO THE CITY, AND I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT THAT EVERY YEAR. IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PLUS UP OF WHAT OUR EXPECTATIONS WERE, WE SHOULDN'T BE BENEFITING HERE AT THE CITY ON ADDITIONAL REVENUE COMING IN FROM RATE INCREASES. UH, MY GOODNESS. UM, THIS LAST YEAR WE HAD THAT ADDITIONAL REVENUE, AND MAN, HOW LONG DID IT TAKE US TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO SPEND THAT MONEY? UM, AND I WAS ALWAYS FOR GIVING IT BACK TO THOSE RATE PAYERS THAT ARE ACTUALLY PAYING INTO THAT SYSTEM. UM, I KIND OF LIKE LIKEN THIS TO, YOU KNOW, THE CITY APPROVING RATE INCREASES, GETTING ADDITIONAL REVENUE BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA GET THAT ADDITIONAL REVENUE. I, I LOOK AT THIS AS LIKE A SELF LICKING ICE CREAM CONE. THAT'S THE WAY I LOOK AT THIS, IS THE MORE WE INCREASE THE RATES, THE MORE REVENUE THE CITY'S GONNA GET OUTTA THAT 14%. SO I JUST, UH, UM, UH, I, I REALLY THINK THAT THE COUNCIL SHOULD TAKE A HARDER LOOK AT THE REVENUE COMING IN FROM C P S AND SAWS EVERY YEAR TO SEE DO WE REALLY, REALLY NEED THAT ADDITIONAL REVENUE YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT TO FUND ADDITIONAL THINGS HERE FOR SAN ANTONIO. SO, UM, I THINK THIS IS GREAT TO REALLY REVIEW THAT AND BE ON THE HOOK TO THE TAXPAYERS AND RATE PAYERS ON WHAT, WHAT OUR EXPECTATION IS AND WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO WITH THAT EXTRA MONEY. SO YEAH, I'M ALL, ALL FOR THAT. UM, I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL THINGS. BEN. UM, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR YOU? UM, YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL OF MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT. SO CAN I JUST RESPOND TO, TO, TO [04:25:01] ONE PART OF THAT, UM, SO TO, TO BE CLEAR ON THAT RATE, IT'S A RATE PLAN. SO AS PART OF THAT MODEL, WHEN WE APPROVED THAT RATE INCREASE IN 2021 MM-HMM. , THAT WENT INTO EFFECT IN 22, THEY WERE SHOWING POTENTIAL INCREASES, UH, TWO YEARS OUT AND THEN TWO YEARS AFTER, THAT'S A PLAN. THEY'RE GONNA UPDATE THAT. THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT, THE BOARD'S GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT. THEY'LL SUBMIT A BUSINESS CASE TO US. WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT ENTIRE PROCESS AND THEN YOU ALL, AS A GOVERNING BODY, WILL MAKE A DECISION ON IF THEY COME FORWARD, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. THE OTHER PART OF THAT IS JUST, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE THIS KIND OF GETS BACK TO A LITTLE BIT OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE BEEN HAVING HERE LATELY, AND THAT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE UTILITIES COME FORWARD FOR A RATE CASE, THEY'VE GOTTA MAKE A BUSINESS CASE. AND HAVING STOOD HERE AT THE, THE PODIUM MANY TIMES, WITH THEM, THAT HAS NEVER BEEN A FUN PROCESS AND HAS NEVER BEEN ANYBODY GOING, MAN, I CAN'T WAIT TO RAISE RATES SO WE CAN GET MORE MONEY OVER HERE. IT HAS BEEN QUITE THE OPPOSITE. IT HAS BEEN, YOU GUYS NEED TO MAKE SURE YOU DEFEND EVERY ELEMENT OF THAT BUSINESS CASE AND THAT THEY REALLY NEED THIS. OUR PAYMENT COMING OFF OF THAT IS PART OF THAT RETURN, JUST LIKE ANYBODY ELSE WOULD HAVE. IT'S NOT A PLUS UP. THAT IS WHAT THE PRIVATE SECTOR HAS, AND WE'RE DOING SOMETHING ON TOP OF IT. IT'S A MODEL THAT'S IN LIEU OF THAT. WE OWN IT, WE HAVE IT. THAT'S JUST PART OF OUR RETURN MECHANISM. BUT THAT, WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THAT, I WILL STAND HERE AND TELL YOU WHEN I'M, WHEN THEY'RE SUBMITTING THAT BUSINESS CASE, I'M NOT LOOKING AT, HEY, IF THEY DO A 5%, THIS IS GONNA DO THIS MUCH. NO, WE'RE MAKING THEM DEFEND THIS IS WHAT THEY NEED. BECAUSE THE LONG-TERM COMPETITIVENESS, THE RELIABILITY OF THOSE UTILITIES, THOSE ARE KEY PIECES FOR US ECONOMICALLY LONG-TERM. THE RETURN TO US IS KIND OF AN OUTCOME AFTER THE FACT. YEAH, I, I, I HEAR YOU BEN, BUT AGAIN, WE BENEFIT THE CITY BENEFITS FROM THAT, THOSE RATE INCREASES. AND IT'D BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT THEY COME IN WITH WHEN THEY COME IN FOR THE NEXT RATE INCREASE, WHERE IT'S GONNA BE AROUND THAT 5% AND TWO YEARS FOLLOWING ANOTHER RATE INCREASE. SO IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT THEY COME IN UP WITH. UM, YEAH. THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY. UM, WAIT A MINUTE. I HAD A FEW SECONDS LEFT HERE. YOU SEATED THE FLOOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY, COUNCIL MEMBER GRO. THANK YOU. UH, I'M VERY PLEASED WITH THIS FINANCIAL POLICY AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS, BEN, THAT YOU'VE PUT FORWARD. I THINK AS LONG AS WE ARE, UM, MAVERICK, UH, WITH OUR, UM, WITH OUR ENERGY, WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE, IT'S GONNA BE VERY HARD FOR C P S AND FOR YOU TO PREDICT WHAT, WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE. UH, SO I I AM PLEASED WITH THE, IF IT'S OVER WHEN WE START HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS, BECAUSE THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN PRIORITIZE F STREETS FOR ONE SIDEWALK GAPS FOR ANOTHER DRAINAGE AS MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES, UH, UM, MENTIONED, AND THEN WE COULD GET INTO OUR ARTS AND OUR CULTURES AND, AND OUR UPSTREAM ISSUES THAT WE WANNA DO. NOT TO MENTION THE SMALL BUSINESS, UH, NEEDS THAT WE DEFINITELY SAW COME FROM THE ARPA. SO, UH, I THINK THERE'S GONNA BE PLENTY OF INTERESTING CONVERSATIONS IF IT COMES TO THE FACT THAT WE HAVE THAT, THE OTHER THING FOR RAISING IT TO 20%, BECAUSE IT'S NOT, IF, IT'S WHEN WITH THE, WITH CLIMATE CHANGE, WITH THE WAY DISASTERS HAPPEN, IS IT JUST A MATTER OF TIME? AND YET YOU, WE ARE VERY THANKFUL THAT A FEW YEARS AGO, THE, THE, THE FLOODS THAT HIT THAT WERE HEADED IN OUR DIRECTION, TOOK A TURN AND HIT HIT HOUSTON. BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S, IT'S ALWAYS GONNA HAPPEN THAT WAY. AND WHAT I DON'T WANT US TO BE IS HERE PANICKING AND WAITING ON THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, UH, LIKE ROCKPORT HAD TO DO IN OTHER PARTS OF, OF THE STATE. SO, OR, OR THE GOVERNOR WAITING FOR THE GOVERNOR OR THE PRESIDENT TO, TO DECLARE US A, A NATIONAL, UM, DISASTER AREA. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A GREAT COMMUNITY THAT'S GONNA PRAY DAILY THAT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN. BUT HERE WE ARE AND WE NEED TO BE FINANCIALLY RESPONSIBLE, WHICH I THINK THAT THIS IS WHAT THIS IS, IS TAKING A LOOK, UNDERSTANDING THAT CLIMATE CHANGE IS HAPPENING, UNDERSTAND THAT NATURAL DISASTERS ARE HAPPENING, AND HOW DO WE, UM, WHAT, WHAT PART CAN WE DO? AND I THINK MOVING IT TO 20% IS RESERVED, IS THE FIRST PART. AND I THINK, UM, YEARS FROM NOW, IF, IF WE'RE SEEING THAT THAT'S NOT NEEDED AND THAT THE, THE FEDERAL AND THE STATE GOVERNMENT HAVE A WAY TO PROVIDE FOR DISASTERS AS THIS, AS THE GOVERNMENT DID FOR C OVID 19, THEN MAYBE WE LOOK AT MOVING IT BACK TO 15. BUT I THINK RIGHT NOW, IN, IN, IN THIS, UH, WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW THAT WE NEED TO DO THIS. SO I, I'M THANKFUL FOR YOUR WORK. I'M THANKFUL FOR THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAVE. I THINK THESE ARE EXCELLENT RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON WHAT, WHAT WE SAW. AND, UM, I THINK C P S IS GONNA DO BETTER IN TERMS OF ANTICIPATING WHAT THEIR EXPECTATION IS TO GIVE TO THE CITY THAT WE, WE WON'T HAVE THIS HAPPEN, UM, UM, VERY OFTEN. [04:30:01] BUT I THINK, I THINK IT UNTIL WE KIND OF GET A GRASP ON THAT AND, UM, OUR POWER SYSTEM GETS A GRASP ON WHAT THEY'RE DOING. WE'LL SEE SOME YEARS LIKE THIS, BUT NOT, NOT CONSISTENT YEARS. SO THANK, THANK YOU BEN, FOR THAT. AND, UM, UH, I LOOK FORWARD TO ALL THE CONVERSATIONS WE'LL BE HAVING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER GRO, UH, LET ME MAKE IT REALLY CLEAR. UH, IF WE PUT CONDITIONS ON ACCESSING CERTAIN FUNDS, IT SHOULD NOT BE FROM EXTERNAL DESIGNATIONS. WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS IT WOULD BE A LOCAL, A LOCAL CITY COUNCIL, UH, DESIGNATION FOR DOING THAT. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTRO, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU ALSO FOR ALL THE WORK YOU'VE DONE. NOT, NOT ONLY NOW, BUT IN THE PAST YOU'VE KEPT US IN GOOD SHAPE. UM, AND I DO CONCUR WITH YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS BECAUSE I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THE RESERVES NOT ONLY FOR A NATURAL DISASTER, BUT EVEN IF WE DODGE THE BULLET THIS YEAR FROM THE LEGISLATURE OF TAKING AWAY OUR C P S REVENUE, WE MAY NOT DODGE THE BULLET TWO YEARS FROM NOW, FOUR YEARS FROM NOW. UH, AND THEN WE'RE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO DRAW FROM. SO, UM, I THINK THAT'S A REAL POSSIBILITY THAT EVEN IF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN NOW, IT COULD HAPPEN LATER. AND THAT WE DO NEED TO HAVE ENOUGH RESERVES TO COVER SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTRO, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT. GREAT JOB, BEN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND WE'LL, UH, COME BACK TO ALL OF THIS STUFF, UH, AT THE GOAL SETTING. ERIC? UH, YES, SIR. WE'LL, WE'LL TRY TO RECAP, UH, TODAY'S CONVERSATION AND THEN, AND THEN, UM, YOU'LL GET A PACKET FOR NEXT THURSDAY BY CLOSE OF BUSINESS ON FRIDAY WITH THOSE ONE PAGERS, THE CALENDAR. AND, AND, UH, LOOKING FORWARD TO NEXT WEEK'S CONVERSATION. THANK YOU. GREAT. ALRIGHT. UH, AND THANK YOU EVERYONE WHO'S BEEN HERE, UM, WAITING FOR PUBLIC COMMENT TO BEGIN, UH, AT THE TIME IS 5 34 ON APRIL 5TH, 2023. OUR B SESSION IS NOW ADJOURNED. WE WILL PROCEED INTO PUBLIC COMMENT. DO WE HAVE EVERYTHING FILED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.