* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:07] GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. IF WE COULD START OFF WITH OUR SPANISH TRANSLATION SERVICES STATEMENT, PLEASE. GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BEFORE WE BEGIN, I BELIEVE WE STILL HAVE MASKS AVAILABLE. YES, WE DO. SO, UM, IF YOU FEEL THAT YOU WOULD BE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH A MASK, WE DO HAVE THEM OVER IN THE, THE CORNER. UM, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. MY NAME IS ROB SIPES AND I'M THE CHAIR OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO'S ZONING COMMISSION, AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT SEVEN COMMISSIONER. UM, I HEREBY CALL THIS REGULARLY NOTICED MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION INTO SESSION. THE TIME IS ONE 10. I'D LIKE TO DO A ROLL CALL BY ALLOWING THE ZONING COMMISSIONERS TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, STARTING WITH THE COMMISSIONER ON MY FAR LEFT TO DETERMINE, UH, MARCO BARROS, DISTRICT NINE. HI. GOOD AFTERNOON. UH, I'M RE ETH FROM DISTRICT FOUR, JOHN BUSTAMONTE, DISTRICT FIVE. JOE NICKS, DISTRICT 10, VAL DOTTI, DISTRICT EIGHT, TAYLOR WATSON, DISTRICT TWO SUMMER GREATHOUSE, DISTRICT ONE MICHELLE LAG. HOLLAND MAYOR'S APPOINTEE. CHARLES FUENTES FOR DISTRICT THREE. IAN HUI, DISTRICT SIX STAFF IS A QUORUM PRESENT. A QUORUM IS PRESENT. OKAY, THANK YOU. I'D, I'D LIKE TO TAKE A, A MOMENT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE AND WELCOME BACK JOE NICKS TO THE ZONING COMMISSION. WELCOME, COMMISSIONER NICKS, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STAND IF EVERYONE WOULD PLEASE STAND FOR OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALL ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG, TO THE FLAG UNITED THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. PRIOR TO COMMENCING OUR HEARING, I WOULD LIKE, UH, STAFF TO REVIEW OUR MEETING FORMAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE. STAFF, IF YOU COULD PLEASE PROCEED BEFORE I BEGIN. PLEASE TURN YOUR PHONES ON VIBRATE OR TURN THEM OFF. THE ZONING COMMISSION IS AN 11 MEMBER BODY APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ZONING CASES UPON RECEIVING A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION. YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO FORWARD YOUR CASE TO CITY COUNCIL. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PROCEDURE, PLEASE CONTACT YOUR CASE MANAGER. STAFF WILL BEGIN EACH CASE WITH A SHORT PRESENTATION OF THE REQUEST. PART OF THE PRESENTATION IN INCLUDES A MAP THAT SHOWS THE AREA TO BE CONSIDERED FOR REZONING AND PROPERTY WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT. PROPERTY CHECK MARKS INDICATE THOSE O OWNERS IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND AN X INDICATES THOSE OWNERS IN OPPOSITION FOLLOWING THE PRESENTATION IN ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION, THE APPLICANT WILL PRESENT THEIR REQUEST FOR THOSE THAT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE PROPOSED REZONING. YOU WILL BE CALLED IN ORDER THAT YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. THOSE IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO MINUTES PER SPEAKER AND YOU'RE NOT OBLIGATED TO UTILIZE THE MAXIMUM TIME LIMITATION YOU WILL HEAR, YOU WILL BE TOLD WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP, YOU WILL HEAR FOR THOSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEIR TIME TO A SPEAKER, THAT SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO PEOPLE GIVING THEIR TIME FOR A TOTAL OF NINE MINUTES. AND SO IT'S IMPORTANT IF YOU'RE YIELDING YOUR TIME TO SOMEONE WHEN THEY ARE CALLED AND YOU ARE YIELDING YOUR TIME, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND AND INDICATE THAT YOU ARE YIELDING YOUR TIME TO THEM BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO YIELD THEIR TIME BEFORE THEY BEGIN SPEAKING. THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL LIMITED TO ONE SPEAKER WITH A TWO MINUTE TIME LIMIT ALONG WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSION QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU STAFF. IF WE GO, IF WE COULD GO OVER OUR POSTPONED ITEMS FOR THE DAY, ITEMS FOR POSTPONEMENT IT ITEM NUMBER, UM, AT 30 43 WEST SALINAS STREET AND ITEM NUMBER 22 LOCATED AT 1602 WEST TERRA ALTA DRIVE. THOSE TWO HAVE BEEN, UH, WITHDRAWN, [00:05:01] POSTPONED, AND THEY WILL NOT BE HEARD TODAY. YES. UH, THANK YOU. UH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU ARE HERE FOR THE PROPERTIES ON WEST SALINAS OR WEST TERRA ALTA, UM, AS, AS KELLY STATED, THESE ITEMS WILL NOT BE HEARD TODAY AND YOU WILL, YOU ARE FREE TO LEAVE AND YOU WILL BE RE NOTIFIED WHEN THOSE ITEMS COME BACK BEFORE THE COMMISSION. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UH, STAFF IF WE COULD PLEASE GO OVER THE LIST [Zoning Items  ] OF ITEMS FOR THE COMBINED HEARING. NUMBER ONE FOR COMBINED HEARING NUMBER ONE, WE HAVE ITEMS NUMBER TWO, OR NO, SORRY, 7, 9, 1, 11, 12, 13, 15, 18, 19, 20, AND 24. AND THEN THE SECOND COMBINED HEARING, UM, FOR RECUSAL, UH, IS ITEMS NUMBER 2 23 AND 27. ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, ANY OF THESE ITEMS YOU'D WISH TO PULL? LOOKING LEFT, SEEING NONE, LOOKING RIGHT, SEEING NONE. ALRIGHT, UM, STAFF, IF WE COULD PLEASE READ THE COMBINED HEARING NUMBER ONE INTO THE RECORD. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO R SIX CD WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR THREE DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. LOCATED AT 2 8 5 POST AVENUE 20 NOTICES WERE SENT. ZERO IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED WESTFORD ALLIANCE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR WITH CONDITIONS. ITEM NUMBER NINE IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C TWO NA TO C TWO SS WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR PARTY HOUSE RECEPTION HALL AND MEETING FACILITIES WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. LOCATED AT 2 6 3 4 SOUTHWEST 34TH STREET. 27 NOTICES WERE SENT. ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED. THOMPSON NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT. ITEM NUMBER 11 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C TWO TO IDZ THREE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND 61 DWELLING UNITS WITH OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. LOCATED AT 1601 AND 1615 BUENA VISTA STREET. 25 NOTICES WERE SENT. ZERO IN FAVOR. ZERO OPPOSED. HISTORIC WEST SIDE RESIDENCE ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR. ITEM NUMBER 12 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO R M SIX WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. LOCATED AT 3 3 8 ALICIA AVENUE. 36 NOTICES WERE SENT. ZERO IN FAVOR. SIX OPPOSED LOMA PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR. ITEM NUMBER 13 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX AND C THREE TO MF 25 WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. LOCATED AT THREE SIX WHITEWOOD DRIVE. 46 NOTICES WERE SENT. ZERO IN FAVOR. ZERO OPPOSED. AND THERE IS NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET. ITEM NUMBER 15 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO R SIX S WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A MANUFACTURED HOME WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. LOCATED AT 25 0 3 AND 25 0 7 MC MCNUTT DRIVE. 36 NOTICES WERE SENT. ZERO IN FAVOR. ZERO OPPOSED AND NO RESPONSE FROM LAKESIDE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IN ITEM NUMBER 18. IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FOUR TO R TWO WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. LOCATED AT TWO 15 NORTH GRIME STREET. 38 NOTICES WERE SENT. ZERO IN FAVOR. ZERO OPPOSED AND NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET. ITEM NUMBER 19 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C THREE NA AND C THREE TO C TWO SS WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATIONS FOR UTILITIES SOLAR FARM BATTERY STORAGE LOCATED AT 1 1 2 1 2 LESLIE ROAD 19. NOTICES WERE SENT ONE IN FAVOR, ZE ZERO OPPOSED AND NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET. ITEM NUMBER 20 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C THREE NA TO C TWO P D WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR WAREHOUSING WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. LOCATED AT ONE 14 FRAN FRAN STREET, 31 NOTICES WERE SENT. ZERO [00:10:01] IN FAVOR. ZERO OPPOSED AND NO RESPONSE FROM THE COLLINS GARDEN OR SAN JUAN GARDENS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS. AND ITEM NUMBER 24 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C ONE TO C ONE CD I D Z WITH OTHER, WITH ALL OTHER OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A WINE BAR LOCATED AT 28 0 6 NORTH FLORE STREET. 32 NOTICES WERE SENT. ZERO IN FAVOR. ZERO OPPOSED. ALTA VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT. ALRIGHT, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THESE ITEMS? YES WE DO. WE HAVE, UM, VOICEMAILS FOR A FEW OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE ON CONSENT, INCLUDING ITEMS NUMBER 1219 JUST FOR THE VOICEMAILS. OKAY. IF WE COULD HEAR THE VOICEMAILS PLEASE. CASE NUMBER Z 2 0 2 3 7 0 0 0 5 6. THE OWNER CAME TO TAKE DOWN YOUR ZONING CHANGE REQUEST SIGN IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE. CAN YOU PLEASE COME PUT ANOTHER ONE? UM, ALL, ALL THE RESIDENTS ARE AGAINST HIM MAKING THAT, UH, RESIDENTIAL INTO A COMMERCIAL. UH, YOU WILL BE GETTING PAPERS SIGNED, SELF STAMPED ENVELOPES. I'M GIVING THEM TO ALL MY NEIGHBORS AND WE WILL BE GOING TO THE MEETING. WE DO NOT WANT 3 38 EIO TO GO COMMERCIAL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, CALL ME BACK. TWO ONE ZERO THREE. UM, 3 5 5 9 4 5 1. MY NAME FELIC ELIZABETH ESPINOZA. MY ADDRESS 3 48 ALICIA AVENUE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 2 8. THANK YOU. OH, WE SAW THE OWNER TAKE IT OFF. MY NEIGHBOR'S ACROSS THE STREET 'CAUSE THEY KNOW HIM. PLEASE COME PUT ANOTHER SIGN. WORK WITH ME AND I'M GETTING ALL THE SIGNATURES THAT I NEED TO MAKE SURE HE DOESN'T NOT, UH, TEAR THE HOUSE DOWN. PUT MORE DUPLEXES. I ALREADY HAVE SOME TO MY RIGHT. I WILL BE EMAILING YOU PICTURES OF THE TWO OF THE, IT'S TWO PAIR OF DUPLICATE FOUR SES TO MY RIGHT. SO YOU CAN SEE HOW THEY TAKE, HOW IT'S ALL MISSING AND THE OWNERS DON'T GIVE A CRAP. ALL THEY DO IS PICK UP, PICK UP THE WRENCH. IT'S NOT RIGHT. THIS IS A IT, THIS IS AN OLD RESIDENCY. WE DON'T NEED THAT HERE. WE ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH OF WHAT YOU PUT THERE. THANK YOU. NOT YOU, BUT WHAT WAS ALLOWED TO PUT THERE IN THE PAST. HI, I'M TRAVIS BOYER. I LIVE AT 97 38 LYND LOTUS, TEXAS 7 8 0 2 3. AND THE CASE NUMBER IS Z 2 23 7 S ZONING CHANGE REQUEST FOR 1 1 2 1 2 LESLIE ROAD. UH, LOT P THREE D AND P DASH 21 A N C B 15 6 63. I AM AGAINST THE ZONING CHANGE FOR, UM, FROM COMMERCIAL DISTRICT FOR WITH THE USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A SOLAR BATTERY FARM I'M AGAINST IN OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL WE HAVE SIGNED IN, UM, UH, UH, IN VOICEMAILS, BUT WE DO HAVE, UM, MS. ESPINOZA SIGNED UP TO SPEAK AS WELL, BUT WE DID JUST PLAY HER VOICEMAIL FOR ITEM NUMBER 12. FOR ITEM 12. YES. UH, FELICIA FELITA RATHER ESPINOZA AND THAT WAS THE VERY FIRST VOICEMAIL WE PLAYED. SO THEN WE BRING HER UP. YEAH, WE WE'LL PULL IT TO, WE'RE GONNA PULL IT TO INDIVIDUAL. OKAY. CAN WE PULL THAT ITEM TO INDIVIDUAL? AND THAT WOULD BE ITEM NUMBER 12. ALL RIGHT. AND THAT WAS IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, OKAY, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT OR COMBINED AGENDA NUMBER ONE, MR. CHAIR. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. 7, 9 11 13, 15, 18, 19, 20 [00:15:04] AND 24. ALRIGHT, SECOND. THAT MOTION. ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEMS NUMBER 7 9 11 13 15, 18, 19, 20 AND 24. MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARDOS. ANY DISCUSSION? LOOKING, OH, COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE. SORRY. BRIEFLY, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU. UM, WITH RESPECT TO ITEM 20, I DO WANT TO COMMEND THE APPLICANT FOR THEIR WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS ACROSS THE STREET FROM, UM, THIS, UH, UNIFORM CLEANING LOCATION AND ESPECIALLY THE INCLUSION OF THE LANDSCAPE. SCREEN ALONG FRAN, FRAN. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. ALRIGHT, ANY DISCUSS OTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT. SEEING NONE? YES. KELLY, I APOLOGIZE. UM, I FAILED TO ADD ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN THAT ENDS IN FOUR EIGHT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE AT POST AVENUE. THEY ARE AMENDING THE SITE PLAN, WHICH IS SUBMITTED AND IN Y'ALL'S PACKET. YEAH. AND MR. CHAIR, I'M SORRY. OKAY. OH WAIT, NO I'M NOT SORRY I CHANGED MY MIND. , THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED. HE'S CONFUSING CASES. OKAY. I'M, TODAY IS NOT MY DAY. I APOLOGIZE TO EVERYONE. ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, DID YOU ITEM NUMBER, ITEM NUMBER SEVEN? CORRECT. OKAY. CORRECT. SO CAN I JUST AMEND THE MOTION THEN TO SAY ITEM SEVEN AS AMENDED? YES, PLEASE. OKAY. COMMISSIONER BARTOS, DO YOU ACCEPT? I'LL BE HAPPY TO ACCEPT THAT. ALRIGHT, SO THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL WITH A SECOND, UM, WITH ITEM NUMBER SEVEN WITH THE AMENDED SITE PLAN. COULD WE GET A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER FUENTES. AYE. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER NICKS? YES. COMMISSIONER LEGIA HOLLAND? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE. AYE. CHAIR SIPES? YES. ITEMS PASS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU ARE HERE FOR ANY OF THOSE ITEMS, THOSE ITEMS WILL NOW BE PROCEEDING TO CITY COUNCIL. SO YOU'RE FREE TO LEAVE AND ENJOY THE REST OF THE DAY. NOW IF WE COULD, OH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE RECUSING RIGHT? YES. OKAY. IF WE COULD NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER GR GREATHOUSE IS LEAVING THE ROOM AND IS RECUSING FROM THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ON THE COMBINED AGENDA NUMBER TWO AND THE TIME IS 1 27. SO IF WE COULD HEAR THE ITEMS FOR THE COMBINED HEARING. NUMBER TWO FOR COMBINED HEARING. NUMBER TWO. UM, ITEM NUMBER TWO IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO RE AND R 20 WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. MULTIPLE ADDRESSES LOCATED ON THE 7800 7900 8,000 EIGHTY ONE HUNDRED EIGHTY TWO HUNDRED AND EIGHTY THREE HUNDRED BLOCK OF NORTH VERDE DRIVE, 70 908,000 EIGHTY ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY THREE HUNDRED BLOCK OF SOUTH VERDE DRIVE, TEN THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED TEN THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED TEN THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED, 10,400, TEN THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED AND TEN THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED BLOCK OF BELGA DRIVE AND THE 10,300 BLOCK OF BANDERA ROAD. 93 NOTICES WERE SENT. 18 NOTICES WERE RECEIVED IN FAVOR. ZERO OPPOSED VERDE HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR AND NO RESPONSE FROM THE SIERRA VISTA AND OAK BLUFF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS. ITEM NUMBER 23 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FIVE TO I TWO LOCATED AT 1 6 7 9 5 SOUTH US HIGHWAY 2 81. THREE NOTICES WERE SENT. ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET. AND LAST IS ITEM NUMBER 27. A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C THREE TO MF 33 WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. LOCATED AT 47 70 [00:20:01] WEST MILITARY DRIVE. 11 NOTICES WERE SENT. TWO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THESE ITEMS? WE DO HAVE, UM, SOME VOICEMAILS FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO AND ONE PERSON SIGNED IN TO SPEAK. UH, YES MA'AM. HI, MY NAME IS CHRISTOPHER KEMPTON. I LIVE AT 79 38 SIERRA SECO, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 4 0. I WAS CALLING IN REFERENCE TO CASE NUMBER 2 2 0 2 3 7 0 0 0 3 AND I WANTED TO VOTE NO ON THAT. THANK YOU MA'AM. JAMES, CORE RESIDENCE 79 0 2 SIERRA SECO, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 4 0. THE LAST FOUR OF THE CASE NUMBER IS 0 0 0 3 AND WE WANT THE PROPERTY TO STAY AS THE NO CHANGES. HELLO, MY NAME IS JOHN GORDON. I LIVE AT 79 10 SIERRA SECO, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS. PHONE NUMBER (210) 592-8702. AND I AM CALLING TO SUPPORT THE PROPOSED ZONING FROM R SIX TO R 20 FOR CASE NUMBER, UH, THAT END 0 0 3 FOR PRETTY HILLS. THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S THERE NOW AND I DO NOT WISH TO SEE THOSE LARGE PLOTS OF, UH, FIVE ACRES OR OR SO CUT INTO SMALL LOTS FOR, FOR, UH, THAT WE'VE DONE ENOUGH OF DESTRUCTION OF EVERYTHING BEAUTIFUL IN SAN ANTONIO AROUND THIS AREA. WE'VE, WE DID NOT GET THE AREA PROTECTED BY PR BAND THAT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED. WE HAVE SEEN DEVELOPMENT EVERY POSSIBLE WAY AND NOW TO TRY TO GO INTO AN ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD TO REDEVELOP IT INTO SMALLER HOMES IS APPALLING AND I VERY MUCH SUPPORT GOING FROM R SIX TO R 20. THANK YOU. HELLO, MY NAME IS MARY BETH SALA, S A S A L A. MY ADDRESS IS 79 0 6 SIERRA SECO, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 4 0. I'M CALLING ABOUT ZONING CASE NUMBER Z 2 0 2 3 0 7 0 0 0 0 3. THAT'S Z 20 23 0 7 0 0 0 0 3. AND I VOTE NO IN OPPOSITION STRONGLY VAHE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS REZONING. I DO NOT WANT THIS REZONED. NOT ONLY NO, BUT HELL NO. I'M CALLING CONCERNING VOTING ON CASE NUMBER 2 2 0 2 3 1 0 7 0 0 0 0 3. I AM VOTING NO, ABSOLUTELY NO. AND MY ADDRESS IS 78 0 2 THE A SEKO SAN ANTONIO SEVEN EIGHT TWO FOUR ZERO AND MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 508-8073. MY NAME IS MYRA ROOSH, I AM A HOMEOWNER. HI, UH, MY NAME IS PATRICIA CRUZ. MY ADDRESS IS 1 0 6 4 0 BELGA DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS SEVEN EIGHT TWO FOUR EIGHT TWO FOUR ZERO. MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 273-4254 AND I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO CASE NUMBER Z 2 0 2 3 0 7 0 0 0 0 3. AND MY ANSWER IS NO THANK YOU. HI, MY NAME IS URA GLORIA GONZALEZ. LAST NUMBER TO THE ZONING CASE NUMBER. IT'S ONE ZERO SEVEN ZERO ZERO ZERO ZERO THREE. MY PHONE NUMBER IS TWO ONE ZERO FOUR THREE THREE SEVEN THREE THREE OH. MY HOME ADDRESS IS 78 14 SIERRA SECCO AND I AM VOTING, NO, I DON'T KNOW WHERE ELSE TO DO THIS, BUT I'M JUST CALLING TO TELL YOU VOTING. NO THANK YOU. HIZO UH, ZONING CASE NUMBER Z 2 0 2 3 1 0 7 0 0 0 0 3. UH, I'M NOT SURE I LEFT YOU MY PHONE NUMBER A WHILE AGO, SO IT'S 2 1 0 8 8 7 2 7 0 1. [00:25:04] MY NAME IS REBECCA GONZALEZ, I LIVE AT 79 26 7 9 2 6 SIERRA SECO. AND I AM VOTING, NO, I THINK THAT'S EVERYTHING. MY ADDRESS, MY NAME, MY PHONE NUMBER IS, YEP. OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BYE. YES, THIS IS WILLIAM E CHILDERS, OWNER OF 78 0 6 SIERRA SECO, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS SEVEN EIGHT TWO FOUR OH. TELEPHONE NUMBER (210) 647-1657. I STRONGLY AM IN OPPOSITION TO THIS CITY'S ZONING CHANGE AND I WANT TO VOTE THAT WAY IF I HAVE A CHANCE. SO THAT IS IT OF THE VOICEMAILS. UM, WE DO HAVE A MS. NINA SALINAS HERE TO SPEAK. MS. SALINAS, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, IF YOU COULD JUST, UH, ONCE YOU GET TO THE PODIUM, JUST REPEAT YOUR NAME AND GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE. SHOULD I RESTART AGAIN? OKAY, I GO BY NINA, WHICH IS HOW I'M LISTED, BUT I'M ACTUALLY JUANITA ALENA SALINAS FROM 79 70 SOUTH VERDE DRIVE. I'M, UH, THE PRESIDENT OF THE VERDE HILLS, H O A AND I'M HERE BOTH AS THE PRESIDENT AND AS A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY. AND WE, UH, WANTED TO EXPRESS OVERWHELMING SUPPORT AS IT IS ACTUALLY OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS BEING CONSIDERED FOR THE CHANGE OF THE ZONING TO RESIDENTIAL ESTATE AND R 20. THE MAJORITY OF THE VOICEMAILS THAT YOU JUST HEARD FROM C R S SECO, THEY'RE NOT PART OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHY THEY WOULD BE OPPOSED, BUT THOSE OF US IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE OVERWHELMINGLY, UH, SUPPORTING IT. ALL. THE LOTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE AT LEAST HALF AN ACRE. THE MAJORITY OF THEM ARE ONE ACRE OR MORE. SO WE FEEL THAT THIS IS ALIGNED WITH THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTIES. AND WE, UH, I WANNA THANK YOU ALL FOR LISTENING AND TAKING OUR CASE INTO THE STAFF WHO WE SPOKE TO AT LENGTH DURING THE CORRIDOR PLANNING. AND I JUST WANTED TO ASK FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR VOTE AND SUPPORTING THE ZONING CHANGES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU NO MORE. NO MORE SPEAKERS. OKAY. NO MORE SPEAKERS FOR ANY OF THE OTHER ITEMS EITHER? CORRECT. OKAY, GREAT. UM, IS THERE, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR HEARING NUMBER COMBINED HEARING NUMBER TWO. THIS WOULD BE FOR WHICH ITEMS AGAIN? ITEMS NUMBER 2 23 AND 27. I'LL SECOND. WELL, OH, I'M NOT MAKING A MOTION. SORRY. I'M, I'LL TAKE A MOTION. MOVE TO APPROVE ITEMS 2 23 AND 27. OKAY. AND THEN COMMISSIONER OR I'LL TAKE A MOTION FOR A SECOND. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEMS NUMBER 2 23 AND 27. UM, ANY DISCUSSION? LOOKING LEFT, LOOKING RIGHT. SEEING NONE. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE. A COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER FUENTES. AYE. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER WEEB AYE. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER NICKS? YES. COMMISSIONER LIA HOLLAND? YES. CHAIR SIPES? YES. ITEMS PASS. OKAY, GREAT. IF WE COULD GET COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE TO REJOIN US IN THE MEETING. ALL RIGHT. LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE HAS REJOINED THE MEETING AT 1:38 PM IF WE COULD NOW PROCEED TO OUR CONTINUANCE HEARING FOR THE MAY 2ND AGENDA ITEMS FOR CONTINUANCE, UH, FOR MAY 2ND ARE ITEMS NUMBER 6 8 14, 21 AND 25. SO FOR ITEM NUMBER SIX IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM RMM FOUR TO IDZ TWO WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME WITH USES PERMITTED FOR SIX DWELLING UNITS LOCATED AT 1 35 FUENTE ALLEY. 42 NOTICES WERE SENT. ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND NO RESPONSE FROM DINER HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. [00:30:02] ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FOUR CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO DWELLING RESIDENTIAL TO R FOUR CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. LOCATED AT 3 4 1 AND 3 4 3 AVONDALE AVENUE. 31. NOTICES WERE SENT. ZERO IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED AND NO RESPONSE FROM HOT WELL'S MISSION REACH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER 14 IS A REQUEST AND CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C THREE R AND N P 10 TO L WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. LOCATED AT 8 8 2 5 NEW LAREDO HIGHWAY 13 NOTICES WERE SENT. ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET. ITEM NUMBER 21 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO I D Z ONE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR NC NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND THREE DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. LOCATED AT 3 1 1 EAST ASHBY PLACE. 41 NOTICES WERE SENT. ONE IN OR ZERO IN FAVOR? ONE OPPOSED AND NO RESPONSE FROM THE TOBIN HILL OR MONTE VISTA. HISTORICAL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS ITEM NUMBER 25 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FIVE TO R FIVE CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE LOCATED AT 5 1 1 8 VANCE JACKSON ROAD. 27 NOTICES WERE SENT ZERO IN FAVOR. TWO OPPOSED NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET OUTSIDE 200 FEET. 112 RESPONSES RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION AND COLONIAL HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED. AND WE DO HAVE, UM, SPEAKERS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR ITEMS NUMBER 14 AND 25 AND WE HAVE A VOICEMAIL OR WE HAVE VOICEMAILS FOR ITEM NUMBER 21. OKAY, GREAT. IF WE COULD HEAR THE VOICEMAILS FIRST. MY NAME IS DOROTHY PERA. I LIVE AT 3 23 EAST ASH STREET IN REGARD TO CASE Z 2 0 2 3 1 0 7 7 7 7 3 3 5. I HEAVILY PROTESTED ZONING CHANGE. THE PROPERTY NEXT TO THIS SITE IS USING THE STREET TO PARK ON IN FRONT OF THIS SITE. THERE IS NO WAY THERE WILL BE ROOM FOR ANOTHER BUSINESS AND THREE UNITS TO PARK AS IT IS EVERY SUMMER. I CAN'T PARK IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE, WHICH IS THE ONLY LOCATION WITH SHADE. I AM VERY FED UP WITH ALL OF THIS OVERPOPULATION OF MY STREET AND IT'S VERY CONSIDERATE TO GRANT THIS REQUEST. MY PHONE NUMBER IS TWO SIX FOUR SEVEN SEVEN TWO ONE AREA CODE 2 1 0. I HOPE SOMEONE LOOKS INTO THIS BEFORE THEY GRANT ANOTHER ZONING CHANGE. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. UM, AND SO OUR FEE FOR OUR SPEAKERS ON ITEM NUMBER 14. JERRY ADO. VICKI ADO? YES. JUST A QUICK NOTE SINCE THESE ARE ON THE CONTINUANCE AGENDA WE'RE, IT'LL BE PROBABLY COMING BACK IN MAY. UM, SO YOU CAN SPEAK NOW OR YOU CAN WAIT, SPEAK THEN OR IF YOU WANT YOU CAN SPEAK AT BOTH. IT'S, IT'S YOUR OPTION. I THINK JERRY AND VICKI LEFT. SO, UM, OKAY. FOR ITEM NUMBER 25, WE HAVE RE MIRO GONZALEZ. YES. IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK NOW, THAT'S FINE. YES. OKAY, THANKS. UP HERE. OKAY. I'M UH, GONZALEZ. UM, I LIVE AROUND THE BLOCK AROUND THE STREET FROM THIS PROPERTY THAT'S BEING, UM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. UM, THE HOUSE IS A NICE HOUSE ON THE, ON VANCE JACKSON. THIS IS A VERY OLD NEIGHBORHOOD. WE BOUGHT A HOUSE THERE BECAUSE IT'S A VERY OLD ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THIS HOUSE WAS REMODELED. UH, THEN WE STARTED NOTICING RIGHT NOW THIS MORNING THERE WAS 10 CARS PARKED IN FRONT OF THAT HOUSE OR IN THE, IN THE YARD OR IN THE DRIVEWAY. OKAY. UM, WE KNOW IT'S BEING USED AS A BUSINESS BECAUSE THERE'S NOBODY THERE ON THE WEEKENDS. THERE'S NOBODY THERE IN THE EVENING. THERE'S NOBODY THERE IN THE MORNING. IT'S ONLY DURING THE BUSINESS HOURS. UM, I'VE [00:35:01] TALKED TO MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS. NOBODY IS IN FAVOR OF THEM HAVING THIS BUSINESS THERE. UM, FRIDAY AFTERNOON I WAS IN MY GARAGE WORKING. A COUPLE OF A YOUNG COUPLE CAME DOWN THE STREET, UM, WANTED TO TALK TO ME ABOUT THIS, THIS, UM, THIS ISSUE. I TOLD 'EM I WAS OPPOSED. THEY TOLD ME THEY WERE ACTUALLY EMPLOYED AT THAT LOCATION. THEY WANTED TO KNOW WHAT WAS WRONG WITH, UH, THEM ESTABLISHING THE BUSINESS AT THAT LOCATION. I DIDN'T ASK THEM MY QUESTION, BUT I WANT TO KNOW HOW IS IT GONNA BENEFIT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO HAVE THEM RUN THE BUSINESS IN OUR AT THAT LOCATION. OKAY. AND I DON'T, I MOVED INTO THAT AREA BECAUSE I WANTED, I DIDN'T WANT A VALERO DOWN THE STREET. IT'S A LOT OF TREES, OLD HOUSES. MY HOUSE IS BUILT TO 62. UM, WE DON'T WANT IT MESSED UP. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. JAMES ROBERTSON. HELLO. UM, I WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO THE ZONING COMMISSION FOR THE JOB YOU DO. IT'S APPRECIATED. MY NAME IS JAMES ROBERTSON. I LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, WITH UM, PROPERTY NUMBER OR SUBJECT NUMBER 25 THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ON VAN JACKSON TODAY. AND I'M JUST GONNA READ A PREPARED STATEMENT SINCE I'M NOT THE, UH, BEST PUBLIC SPEAKER, BUT I HAVE THREE POINTS TO MAKE. ONE IS THIS POTENTIAL ZONING CHANGE FROM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY TO, UH, RESIDENTIAL WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE. THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN A BUSINESS FROM DAY ONE OPERATING AS AN OFFICE FOR OVER A YEAR. THE BUSINESS OWNER IS NOT A RESIDENT CONTEMPLATING RUNNING AN OFFICE FROM HOME, BUT RATHER NO ONE LIVES THERE. IT'S STRICTLY RUNNING AS AN OFFICE OR BUSINESS WITH SERVICE TRUCKS THERE. AT TIMES THERE ARE FREQUENTLY 10 TO 12 VEHICLES PARKED THERE WITH FRONT AND REAR YARDS THAT HAVE BEEN CONVERTED TO PARKING LOTS. THE FRONT YARD IS TASTEFULLY DONE, HOWEVER, IT'S A GRAVEL PARKING LOT PROPOSED ZONING. IT MIGHT JUST BE A STEPPING STONE TO FULL COMMERCIAL. THE HISTORY HERE IS THAT THIS OFFICE HAS BEEN OPERATING OUTSIDE OF THE CURRENT ZONING FROM THE BEGINNING. WHY WOULD THEY STOP NOW? UM, F Y I THE D CHANGED IN 2022 WITH A NEW L L C OWNER HAVING THE SAME ADDRESS AS A PREVIOUS L L C OWNER LEADING ONE TO THINK THAT THAT'S MOST LIKELY THE SAME CORPORATE OWNERS OF THIS PROPERTY. POINT NUMBER TWO, A MULTITUDE OF OFFICE SPACES ARE FOR LEASE IN THE SAME ZIP CODE. 7 8 2 3 0 LOOPNET.COM LISTS 22 DIFFERENT AND SEPARATE COMMERCIAL OFFICE SPACES FOR LEASE WITHIN THE 7 8 2 3 OH ZIP CODE RANGING FROM A SMALL AS 234 SQUARE FEET ALL THE WAY UP TO 37,791 SQUARE FEET. I'M SURE SOMETHING SUITABLE COULD BE FOUND IN THE AREA THAT IS IN APPROPRIATE ZONING. POINT NUMBER THREE, NO OTHER BUSINESSES ARE LOCATED ON VANCE JACKSON FOR APPROXIMATELY 1.7 MILES BETWEEN JACKSON KELLER AND OAK GATE DRIVE. THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON VANCE JACKSON IS CURRENTLY RESIDENTIAL FROM JACKSON KELLER TO OAK GATE. THESE HOMES ARE LIVED IN BY THE OWNERS OR TENANTS WHO ARE SHARED STAKEHOLDERS IN THE WELLBEING OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL WE HAVE SIGNED IN TO SPEAK. OKAY, GREAT. UM, SEE, DO WE HAVE A, IS THERE A MOTION FOR THIS GROUP OF ITEMS? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR, UH, APPROVAL OF THE CONTINUANCE OF ITEMS NUMBER SIX, NUMBER EIGHT, NUMBER 14, NUMBER 21 AND NUMBER 25 TO MAY 2ND. 2023. I'D SECOND. ALRIGHT. THERE IS A MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE TO THE MAY 2ND MEETING FOR ITEMS NUMBER 6 8 14 21 AND 25. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WATSON. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES. UH, ANY DISCUSSION? LOOKING LEFT. LOOKING RIGHT. SEEING NONE. IF WE COULD HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER FUENTES. AYE. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER WEEB. AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER NICKS? YES. COMMISSIONER LU HOLLAND? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE. AYE. CHAIR SIPES? YES. ITEMS PASS FOR CONTINUANCE. OKAY, GREAT. IF YOU WERE HERE FOR THOSE ITEMS, WE'LL SEE YOU IN A COUPLE WEEKS. UM, AND I FAILED TO TELL THE PEOPLE THAT IF Y'ALL WERE HERE FOR THE, IF COMBINED HEARING NUMBER TWO, UM, THOSE ITEMS ARE PROCEEDING ON TO CITY COUNCIL. SO Y'ALL ARE FREE TO LEAVE AS WELL. THAT WAS THE EARLIER CONSENT AGENDA. ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD NOW MOVE TO OUR INDIVIDUAL [00:40:01] ITEMS, WE ACTUALLY, WE STILL HAVE ANOTHER CONTINUOUS HEARING. WE HAVE. OH MY GOSH. MAN. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, IF WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE CONTINUANCE HEARING NUMBER TWO. ALRIGHT, ITEMS FOR CONTINUANCE HEARING TO MAY 16TH, 2023. WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 17, WHICH IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM OUR SIX TO IDZ. TWO USES WITH USES PERMITTED FOR MF 25, LOW DENSITY MULTIFAMILY WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. LOCATED AT FOUR 11 EAST EVERGREEN 26 NOTICES WERE SENT. ZERO IN FAVOR. SIX OPPOSED. TOBIN HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED AND OUTSIDE 200 FEET THREE HAVE RESPONDED IN OPPOSITION FOR ITEM NUMBER 26 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C TWO AND O TWO TO C TWO SS WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A PRIVATE CLUB WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. LOCATED AT 4 4 0 1 RIMAN ROAD. 31 NOTICES WERE SENT. ZERO IN FAVOR. 13 OPPOSED. EAST TERRELL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT. AND OUTSIDE 200 FEET WE'VE RECEIVED 38 IN OPPOSITION. AND THEN WE DID JUST RECEIVE TWO MORE, UM, IN OPPOSITION JUST AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING. AND WE DO HAVE VOICEMAILS FOR ITEM NUMBER SI 17 AND THEN SPEAKERS TO SIGN UP TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 26. OKAY, GREAT. IF WE COULD HEAR THE VOICEMAILS FOR 17, PLEASE. HI, MY NAME IS CHRISTOPHER JOSEPH AT 4 0 8 EAST EVERGREEN STREET, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS SEVEN EIGHT TWO ONE TWO. PHONE NUMBER (781) 343-3584. CALLING REGARDING CASE Z 2 0 2 3 7 6 1. I'M CALLING TO EXPRESS MY STRONG OPPOSITION TO PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE FROM LIFE RESIDENTIAL TO MEDIUM RESIDENTIAL FOR FOUR 11 EAST EVERGREEN STREET. WHILE I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT, I BELIEVE THAT THIS CHANGE WOULD'VE A SIGNIFICANT NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR RESIDENTS IN THE TOBAN HILL HISTORIC DISTRICT. AS A HOMEOWNER OF A SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTY IN THE AFFECTED ZONE SINCE 2008, I'VE INVESTED A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME AND MONEY IN MY PROPERTY WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE AREA WILL REMAIN ZONED FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. CHANGING THE ZONING TO MEDIUM RESIDENTIAL TO ALLOW FOR A MULTI-UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX WOULD'VE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE OVERALL AESTHETIC OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND PROPERTY VALUES. FURTHERMORE, THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE WOULD LEAD TO INCREASE TRAFFIC CONGESTION, INCLUDING PARKING PROBLEMS. PARKING IS NOT ALLOWED ON EAST EVERGREEN DUE TO THE REQUIRED ACCESS FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES. FOR METROPOLITAN METHODIST SIDE STREETS THAT DO ALLOW FOR PARKING ARE USUALLY FULL. THE NEIGHBORHOOD CANNOT ACCOMMODATE FIVE PLUS UNITS WITH ONE TO TWO CARS EACH THAT HAVE NO ONSITE PARKING. THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT EQUIPPED TO HANDLE THE INCREASED DEMAND THAT WILL COME WITH THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE. I YOU TO CAREFULLY CONSIDER THE CONCERNS OF RESIDENTS BEFORE MAKING A DECISION ON THIS MATTER. PLEASE KEEP OUR COMMUNITIES INTERESTS IN MIND AND DO NOT APPROVE, APPROVE THE ZONE CHANGE FROM LIGHT RESIDENTIAL TO MEDIUM RESIDENTIAL FOR FOUR 11 EAST EVERGREEN STREET. THANK YOU SO MUCH. MY NAME IS PATRICK RIS. I'M CALLING ABOUT THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE FOR FOUR 11 EAST EVERGREEN STREET. CASE NUMBER Z TWO ZERO TWO THREE ONE ZERO SEVEN ZERO ZERO ZERO SIX ONE. MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 771-4830. I'M THE HOMEOWNER AT 4 0 3 EAST EVERGREEN, WHICH IS LOCATED AT THE CORNER OF EAST EVERGREEN AND PASCAL TWO HOUSES WEST OF THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE. I WANNA MAKE PERFECTLY CLEAR THAT I'M OPPOSED TO THIS ZONING CHANGE FOR SEVERAL REASONS, BUT DUE TO TIME HERE I'M GOING TO CONCENTRATE ON TWO. NUMBER ONE, THIS HISTORICAL NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS MORE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOMES PRESERVED NOT RENOVATIONS BY INVESTORS INTO MULTIPLE UNITS ON THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY. LOT INVESTORS WILL TELL YOU THAT THE RENOVATION AND RESALE OF THESE OLD HOMES ISN'T ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE. HOWEVER, MYSELF AND MY NEIGHBOR AT 4 0 7 EAST EVERGREEN, WHICH IS DIRECTLY NEXT DOOR TO FOUR 11, ARE EXAMPLES OF SINGLE FAMILIES THAT HAVE PURCHASED HOMES IN THIS AREA, WANT TO BE A PART OF THIS HISTORIC AREA, ARE WILLING TO DO THE WORK AND ARE HELPING TO PRESERVE THE FABRIC OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT CAN AND HAS BEEN DONE. MY SECOND POINT IS THAT WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED HERE HAS BEEN TRIED AND HAS FAILED JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF MY PROPERTY ON THE ADJACENT CORNER OF EAST EVERGREEN AND PASCAL. ABOUT SEVEN YEARS AGO, THE COMMISSIONS APPROVED THE PROPERTY ZONING CHANGE TO ALLOW FOR INFIELD DEVELOPMENT. THE INVESTOR THAT PROPOSED THE CHANGE RECEIVED APPROVAL BY THE CITY TO BUILD A 14 UNIT COMPLEX ON THE HISTORICAL SITE. AFTER SIX PLUS YEARS OF CONSTRUCTION, WITHDREW VANDALISM, ROBBERY, STREET PARKING VIOLATIONS AND OTHER OFFENSES TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE OWNER HAS COMPLETED HALF OF THE CONSTRUCTION. OF THE SEVEN UNITS COMPLETED, FIVE WERE SOLD TO INDIVIDUAL PURCHASER. ONE REMAINS VACANT AND ONE WAS SOLD TO AN INVESTOR AS AN AIRBNB. OF THE FIVE UNITS SOLD TO INDIVIDUAL PURCHASERS, THREE OF THOSE PURCHASERS ARE TRANSIENT OWNERS THAT DO NOT [00:45:01] RESIDE THERE FULL-TIME. THIS IS NOT THE TYPE OF PROPERTY OWNER THAT IS NEEDED IN THIS HISTORIC DISTRICT TO HELP PRESERVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD. JUST LIKE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AT FOUR 11 EAST EVERGREEN, THIS OWNER IS PROPOSING A HELLO, MY NAME IS RANDALL ROSEN. I LIVE AT 4 0 7 EAST EVERGREEN STREET, 7 8 2 1 2. AND I'M CALLING REFERENCING CASE NUMBER Z DASH 2 0 2 3 DASH 1 0 7 0 0 0 6 1. UH, REGARDING FOUR 11 EAST EVERGREEN STREET TO BE REZONED TO MULTIFAMILY. UH, I'VE LIVED NEXT TO THIS PROPERTY FOR, UH, LONGER THAN FIVE YEARS NOW. AND EVER SINCE I'VE LIVED HERE, THIS HOUSE HAS BEEN SINGLE FAMILY. MOST OF THE HOUSES ON THE 400 BLOCK OF EAST EVERGREEN ARE SINGLE FAMILY AS WELL. AND WE ARE OPPOSED TO THIS HOUSE BEING REZONED, MULTI-FAMILY. UH, IT'S GONNA CAUSE MULTIPLE PROBLEMS INCLUDING PARKING, AN INCREASE IN TRAFFIC AND A DISRUPTION OF THE GENERAL NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, BEING ONE, UH, SINGLE FAMILY HOME AGAIN, WE ARE OPPOSED. MY FAMILY IS OPPOSED TO FOUR 11 EAST EVERGREEN BEING RE-DESIGNATED AS UH, MEDIUM INTENSITY. UM, MULTI-FAMILY, UH, RESIDENTIAL AGAIN, I LIVE AT 4 0 7 EAST EVERGREEN STREET. I AM DIRECTLY NEXT DOOR TO THE WEST OF THE HOME IN QUESTION. MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 378-8774. AGAIN, MY NAME IS RANDALL ROSEN. SANDRA ANDERSON RESIDENCE TOBIN HILL. ADDRESS, 4 1 4 EAST EVERGREEN STREET AND FOUR TWO NINE EAST EVERGREEN STREET. MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 286-0929. I AM SANDRA ANDERSON, OWNER OF TWO HISTORIC HOMES ON EAST EVERGREEN STREET. 4 1 4 EAST EVER GREEN STREET, MY DECEASED MOTHERS AND 4 2 9 EAST EVERGREEN STREET. MY DECEASED SISTERS HISTORIC THREE STORY SINGLE FAMILY VICTORIAN MANSION. EAST EVERGREEN STREET IS A RESIDENTIAL STREET IN HISTORIC TOBIN HILL. THE FOUR 11 EAST EVERGREEN MANSION IS DESIGNATED R SIX RESIDENTIAL. IT IS A TWO STORY RESIDENCE, NOT A TWO STORY APARTMENT HOUSE. AS THE ZONING MAP INCORRECTLY, POSES, COMMONS AND STATEMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE THAT FOUR 11 EAST EVERGREEN IS BROKEN INTO APARTMENTS, ARGUING THAT IT HAS BEEN MULTIFAMILY. IN FACT, NEITHER JAMES CONTE OWNER IN 1966, NOR HIS DAUGHTER CELESTE CONTE INHERITOR SELLER, EVER RENTED THE MAIN MANSION, ONLY THE REAR STRUCTURE WAS RENTED. IMPORTANT NOTES DURING WORLD WAR II, SAN ANTONIO WAS A MAJOR MILITARY CITY. THE US GOVERNMENT ENCOURAGED PROPERTY OWNERS, OWNERS TO SHARE OUR HOMES WITH MILITARY FAMILIES AND TOBIN HILL WAS THEN ZONE D. YOU WILL FIND THAT MANY HISTORIC MANSIONS IN TOBIN HILL AND OTHERS WERE TEMPORARILY DIVIDED TO DO OUR PATRIOTIC PART IN THE WAR EFFORT. THIS IS NO LONGER THE CASE. IN 1985, THE SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION ESTABLISHED THE DESIGNATED STATUS THAT WE HAVE TODAY. DURING THAT TIME, OUR FORWARD-THINKING CITY COUNCIL AND OTHERS WITH THEIR EYES ON THE SUBSTANTIAL POTENTIAL OF THE DIVERSE RESIDENCES. TO FURTHER DRAW INTEREST TO DOWNTOWN THE ALAMO LATA TO SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE COVIN HILL, KING WILLIAMS, ALTA VISTA, BEACON HILL, MONTE VISTA, GOVERNMENT HILL, THESE INTERESTING HISTORIC HI, THIS IS STEVEN BATES. UH, I LIVE ON UH, 5 0 5 EAST PARK AVENUE AND I AM CALLING TO VOICE MY OPPOSITION TO THE PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING CASE ZULU DASH 2023 DASH 0 7 0 0 0 6 1. UH, FOR SET PROPERTY AT FOUR 11 EAST EVERGREEN. UM, WE ALREADY HAVE A LOT OF VACANT MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING AND UNCOMPLETED MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOODS. UH, AND THE ADDITIONAL RAPID GROWTH THAT'S HAPPENING IS JUST EXACERBATING THE PARKING CHALLENGES AROUND THIS SPECIFIC AREA. SO I'M OPPOSED TO, UH, CREATING A ADDITIONAL MULTIFAMILY AT THIS PROPERTY. AND REZONING. THANK YOU. BYE. THAT IS IT OF THE VOICEMAILS FOR ITEM NUMBER 17. AND THEN FOR SPEAKERS FOR ITEM NUMBER 26, I HAVE A MR. LORENZO ACOSTA. AND AGAIN, THESE ITEMS ARE UP FOR A CONTINUANCE, SO YOU CAN SPEAK NOW OR YOU CAN SPEAK IN A MONTH WHEN WE HEAR IT OR YOU CAN SPEAK AT BOTH MEETINGS. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS LORENA [00:50:01] COSTA AND I LIVE, UH, WELL, I HAVE LIVED IN EAST TAROT HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD FOR 48 YEARS. I LIVE AT 4 4 0 6 TROPICAL DRIVE AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK AGAINST THIS PROPOSAL. THIS REZONING PROPOSAL FOR REASON AS FOLLOWS IS THE NATURE OF THE BUSINESS AND IT'S CALLED A SEX CLUB. AND I HAVE HERE A LETTER FROM OUR MAYOR, RON BERG. STRONGLY RECOMMENDED THAT THIS REZONING BE DISAPPROVED BECAUSE HE, IN THIS LETTER, HE SAID THERE IS PROOF THAT WE CAN SHOW YOU THAT IT'S A SEX CLUB. EVEN THE NATURE OF THE HOURS. THEY START AT NINE TO TWO IN THE MORNING AND ON WEEKENDS THEY DON'T START TILL ABOUT MIDNIGHT TILL FOUR IN THE MORNING. AND I TELL MY CHILDREN, NOTHING HAPPENS. THAT IS GOOD AFTER MIDNIGHT. NOW DIRECTLY UNDER THIS BUILDING, THERE IS FOUR HOUSES. UH, WE'LL CALL 'EM HOMES BECAUSE THEIR FAMILIES IN THERE AND THERE IS NO BARRIER BEHIND THESE. THE NEW BUILDING, THE NEW ESTABLISHMENT. AND ALSO MY CHILDREN WENT TO SCHOOL AT EAST TAR HILLS WITH THE MIDDLE SCHOOL. AND THEN IN ROOSEVELT. I AM PROUD OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I DON'T WANT YOU TO DEGRADE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BY REZONING THIS TO A SEX CLUB THAT COULD ONLY BRING DRUGS, SEX, VIOLENCE, DISTURBANCE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IN CLOSING, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT ALL OF YOU WILL MAKE A MORAL CONSCIOUS DECISION AND DISAPPROVE THIS RUINING REZONING REQUEST. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. AND NEXT WE HAVE, UM, AND I APOLOGIZE, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE I ILSA OR OKAY. IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK, I'M GIVE MY TIME TO JOE THOMAS. OKAY. SO, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE JOE TORRES AND THEN MS. DIANE TORRES. SO MS. TORRES, YOU, YOU'LL BE SPEAKING SEPARATELY. I, NO SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO MR. TORRES, YOU'LL HAVE, UM, FOUR MINUTES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. FORGIVE ME, I'M NOT GOOD AT PUBLIC SPEAKING, BUT I'LL TRY TO DO MY BEST AND READ THIS AS QUICK AS I CAN SO I CAN GET MY MESSAGE TO YOU. MY NAME IS JOE TORRES AND I LIVE AT 44 0 6 MYRNA DRIVE EAST LL HILLS, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 1 8. I'VE LIVED HERE FOR 31 YEARS. FOR THE MOST PART THEY HAVE BEEN GOOD YEARS. SOME HAVE BEEN THE BEST YEARS OF MY LIFE. DURING MY TIME, I'VE SEEN BAR AFTER BAR COME AND GO RIGHT BEHIND OUR HOUSE. HOWEVER, THE LAST TWO HAVE BEEN AFTER HOURS CLUBS, A HOOKAH LOUNGE, AND NOW A MEMBER'S ONLY SEX CLUB. PLACES LIKE THESE CAN SET THEIR OWN HOURS BECAUSE THEY'RE BRING YOUR OWN BOTTLE AND DO NOT REQUIRE THE LAWS AND RULES OF A T A B C. THE HOOKAH LOUNGE BROUGHT REAL CRIME AND VIOLENCE TO OUR BACKYARD. NO, THE CLUB'S BACKYARD DOOR OPENS UP TO OUR BACKYARD. BACKYARD. MAY I PRESENT EXHIBIT? OH, I CAN PRESENT THEM HERE, SIR. OH, OH. WE PROJECT THAT THE HOOKAH LOUNGE BROUGHT REAL CRIME AND VIOLENCE TO OUR, TO OUR BACKYARD. NOTE, THE CLUB'S BACKYARD DOORS OPEN UP TO OUR, TO OUR BACKYARD DRUGS, LOUD ARGUMENTS, GUNFIRE. AND THE PREVIOUS OWNERS TORCH CADILLAC IN A POWER PARKING LOT WERE AMONG THE BAD THINGS THAT HAPPENED FOR A GOOD WHILE. THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS SCARED REALLY BECAUSE THREATS HAD BEEN MADE. AT THAT TIME. THERE WAS A DISTRICT TWO FIELD OFFICE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET THAT WAS AWARE AND DID NOTHING BECAUSE THEY WERE ALSO AFRAID. NOW COMES CLUB EDEN. PRESENT DAY. THEY CLAIM THAT THEY'RE BETTER THAN THEIR PREDECESSOR, WHEN IN FACT THEY BRING WITH THEM THE SAME DRUG USE VIOLENCE AND SEX. SOMEONE FROM THE MANAGEMENT STAFF HAS BEEN SMOKING POT MARIJUANA OUT THE BACK DOOR AT NIGHT BECAUSE THE CLUB FAILED TO MAINTAIN THE SECURITY OF THEIR FENCES. AND INTRUDER ENTERED THEIR OPEN BACK DOOR. ON OR ABOUT THE FIRST ON OR ABOUT THE 15TH OF FEBRUARY, 2022. AFTER 2100 HOURS, WE HEARD CHRIS VANDER GRIFF SHOUT QUOTE, I'M GOING TO F AND KILL YOU. MY WIFE AND I JUMPED UP AND WENT OUT BACK TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON. TALKING ACROSS THE FENCE. WE LEARNED MR. GROUND AND VANDER GRIFF STATED THAT HE HAD TO CHASE AN INTRUDER AT GUNPOINT. THE POINT BEING IS IF MR. VANDER GRIFF HAD DISCHARGED HIS WEAPON AND MISSED THE INTENDED TARGET, THE BULLET WOULD'VE IMPACTED INTO OUR BACK BEDROOM. ALSO, IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT ABOUT A DAY BEFORE ON THE 14TH THAT AN INTRUDER ENTERED THROUGH THE HOLE IN THE FENCE AND KNOCKED OUT SOME BOARDS DAMAGING SIX AND TOTAL AND BREAKING SOME. HE USED A HAMMER, A WOODEN BOX, AND A LADDER [00:55:01] THAT CLUB EDEN HAD NEGLECTED TO SECURE. THE CONSTRUCTION LADDER WAS USED AS A BRIDGE THAT BREACHED OUR YARD CLUB. EDEN MANAGER HEIDI TOLD ME THAT SHE HAD A VIDEO OF AN AFRICAN AMERICAN MALE WEARING A HOODED SWEATSHIRT AND SUNGLASSES DESTROYING OUR OUR FENCE. SS A P D OFFICER POLLARD 1158 RETURNED THE LADDER AND HAMMERED TO HEIDI AND THEN TRANSPORTED THE SUBJECT FOR RELOCATION. ABOUT 17 MONTHS AGO, WE WERE HERE ABOUT THE REZONING OF 44 0 1 RMAN AND YOU VOTED TO DENY IT BY A VOTE OF EIGHT TO ONE. WHY ARE WE HERE AGAIN? AND HOW MANY TIMES DO WE STILL HAVE TO DO THIS AND COME BACK TO THIS. AT THE MEETING, I RETURNED AN OUTBACK STEAKHOUSE GIFT CARD TO MR. VANDER GRIFF BECAUSE I WILL NOT BE BRIBED A WHILE BACK. A LETTER ADDRESSED TO JA JAYLEN MCKEE RODRIGUEZ WAS LEFT UNDER MY DOORMAT. IT CONCERNED THE REZONING OF 44 35 RMAN FOR A PRIVATE CLUB AND RESTAURANT. I REFUSED TO SIGN IT. VANDER GRIFF CAME BACK AND SAID THAT HIS LANDLORD HAD OFFERED HIM OTHER PROPERTY SITES WHERE HE COULD RELOCATE HIS CLUB. HE INFORMED ME THAT IF HE RELOCATED THERE WAS A HOOKAH LOUNGE JUST READY AND WILLING TO MOVE IN AND TAKE HIS PLACE. KNOWING WELL HOW MUCH THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAD SUFFERED UNDER THE PREVIOUS HOOKAH LOUNGE. I WILL NOT BE INTIMIDATED INTO DOING ANYTHING AGAINST MY WILL. IT'S TIME WE REGAIN THE PEACE AND QUIET WE WE RESERVE AS RETIREES AND FAMILIES RAISING YOUNG CHILDREN. MY APPEAL TO YOU ALL IS TO TAKE THE RESIDENCE OF EAST PEARL HILLS INTO CONSIDERATION BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION ON THIS REZONING REQUEST. PLEASE KEEP US AND PLEASE KEEP OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BACK AND GIVE IT BACK TO US. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I THANK YOU EACH AND EVERYONE. THANK YOU. SO NEXT WE HAVE MS. DIANE TORRES. AND THEN FOLLOWING MS. TORRES IT'LL BE MS. CHRISTIE TIDWELL. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS DIANE TORRES. I LIVE AT 44 0 6 MERLE DRIVE. UH, I'VE LIVED THERE FOR 47 YEARS AND I HAVE SEEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD DETERIORATE WITH BAR AFTER BAR AFTER BAR. AND NOW WE HAVE THIS PRIVATE CLUB, UH, THAT THEY WANNA TURN INTO A RESTAURANT THE WAY IT'S ZONED PRESENTLY. I MEAN WE, WE'VE HAD BARBERSHOP, WE'VE HAD A RESTAURANT, WE HAVE A GROCERY STORE THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD CAN UTILIZE. NOBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD CAN REALLY UTILIZE THIS PRIVATE CLUB 'CAUSE IT'S FOR MEMBERS ONLY. YOU KNOW, AND WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENED, ALL THESE BARS AFTER BARS, THE NOISE HAS INCREASED. THE NOISE OF THE THE CARS LEAVING THE THE PARKING LOT AT AT 2 3, 4 O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING IS UNBELIEVABLE. WE HAVE A SERVICE DOG IN OUR HOME AND EVERY TIME HE HEARS THAT BACK DOOR OPEN AND IT'S OPEN CONSTANTLY, HE ALERTS AND HE GETS UPSET AND THAT WAKES US UP AND THAT WE HAVE A RIDE AS RETIREES TO BE ABLE TO SLEEP AT A DECENT HOUR AND BE ABLE TO BE NOT DISTURBED DURING THE NIGHT. OKAY? AND, UM, WITH THIS GOING ON, I JUST DON'T SEE IT GETTING ANY BETTER. IT'S TAKEN AWAY AND DEGRADING THE STANDARDS OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE HAVE A LOT OF CHILDREN THERE. AND UNFORTUNATELY, IF THE FENCES AREN'T MAINTAINED BY THE OWNERS, UM, CHILDREN FROM THE APARTMENT COME THROUGH THERE AND IT GOES RIGHT THROUGH THE, TO THE CLUB EATING WHERE IT IS. AND THIS WAY IT'S ZONED, IT'S KNOWN SO THAT YOU CAN ONLY HAVE, UM, A LIQUOR STORE AT THE MOST IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA. NOW WHY THE PREVIOUS OWNER AND THIS PRESENT OWNER WANNA CONTINUE RENTING IT AS A BAR OR PRIVATE CLUB IS BEYOND ME. I MEAN, IT'S IN VIOLATION OF THE CODE ZONING CODE AS IT IS RIGHT NOW. OKAY? SO I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT CAN HAPPEN. THANK YOU AND THANK YOU. AND THEN LAST MISS CHRISTIE TIDWELL, PLEASE. THANK YOU GUYS FOR HEARING US. AND I DO SECOND THAT IT IS A SHAME THAT WE CONTINUE TO HAVE TO MAKE THESE MEETINGS WHEN THERE'S SO MANY OF US THAT ARE AGAINST THIS. IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF TIME AND IT'S, IT SHOULDN'T BE HAPPENING. SO WE, UH, DO OWN A PROPERTY THAT IS DIRECTLY BEHIND THE CLUB. UH, IT HAS BEEN FULLY AFFECTED. WHEN WE FIRST PURCHASED THE PROPERTY, IT WAS ACTUALLY A CHURCH. THERE'S ALSO A CHURCH ACROSS THE STREET THAT IS CURRENT, THAT IS STILL A CHURCH OWNED PROPERTY. UM, WHEN, LIKE [01:00:01] HE WAS SAYING WHEN THEY OPENED THAT BACK DOOR FOR THE CLUB THAT IS STILL CURRENTLY HAPPENING, THE MUSIC GOES STRAIGHT. IT'S LIKE PUTTING A BOOMBOX INTO YOUR BACKYARD UNTIL FOUR IN THE MORNING ON THE WEEKENDS. IT SCARES DOGS. IT SCARES CHILDREN. WE HAVE A, A YOUNG CHILD. UM, IT DISRUPTS EVERYTHING. THE B Y O B THING, THEY PARK UP AND DOWN THE STREET, NOT JUST IN THE PARKING LOT. THEY PARK IN FRONT OF THE HOMES. THEY COME, THERE'S BOD, THEY'RE EMPTY BOTTLES EVERYWHERE ON THE STREETS EVERY DAY. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THERE'S 10 PEOPLE THERE THIS LAST WEEKEND, IT'S GONNA BE TRASHED EVERY SINGLE TIME. IT'S RIDICULOUS. IT DOES NOT NEED TO BE REZONED. THEY SHOULD NOT BE CURRENTLY WORKING AS A BAR. IT'S A SHAME THAT IT'S BEING ALLOWED. WE HAVE HAD A GUN WHEN THE LAST, WHEN IT WAS A HOOKAH THING, THEY HAD GUNSHOTS. ONE OF THE GUNSHOTS WENT THROUGH A WINDOW. WE HAVE A POLICE REPORT FROM OUR BACKYARD. UH, ONE TIME THEY STARTED A FIRE BURNED OUR FENCE. UM, WE HAVE MULTIPLE TIMES, WE'VE HAD CODE VIOLATIONS OUT THERE. POLICE REPORTS CALLING 9 1 1 IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT BECAUSE OF THE SMELL OF FIRE, THE SMOKING, THE NOISE, OR PEOPLE PARKED IN FRONT OF OUR HOUSE, DRINKING, DRINKING THERE. BECAUSE NOW IT'S FOUR IN THE MORNING AND IT'S CLOSED. SHOULD NOT BE HAPPENING. WE'RE AGAINST IT. PLEASE END THIS SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS ANYMORE. OKAY? THANK YOU. AND IF WE COULD GET YOUR ADDRESS REAL QUICK. NAME AND ADDRESS REAL QUICK FOR THIS. CHRISTY TIDWELL. 44 14 MYRNA. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. AND THAT'S IT FOR SPEAKERS ON THOSE CASES. ALRIGHT, SO IF I COULD ENTER, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THOSE ITEMS. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE OF ITEMS NUMBER 17 AND 26 TO MAY 16TH, 2023. SECOND. THERE IS A MOTION, SORRY. THERE'S A MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE OF ITEM 17 AND 26 TO THE MAY 16TH MEETING. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WATSON. AND I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER FUENTES, YOU MADE THE SECOND. SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? LOOKING LEFT, LOOKING RIGHT. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. DISCUSSION LIKE FOR COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER PUENTES. AYE. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER NICKS? YES. COMMISSIONER LU HOLLAND? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE. NO. CHAIR SIPES, UH, NO ITEMS PASS FOR CONTINUANCE. AND WHAT THAT MEANS TO THE AUDIENCE IS THAT THOSE ITEMS WILL BE REHEARD IN IN ONE MONTH, IS WHAT THAT MEANS. UM, I IS JUST THE PROCESS THAT, THAT THE COMMISSION FOLLOWS. UM, IT WAS YOU HAVE ENOUGH TO MAKE A DECISION. YES. I I UNDERSTAND. I UNDERSTAND. BUT, BUT UNFORTUNATELY AT THIS TIME, THE, THE IT THE MOTION WAS MADE FOR A CONTINUANCE. I'M ASSUMING BECAUSE THE APPLICANT ASKED FOR THE CONTINUANCE. CORRECT. AND SO WHY DO WE HAVE WELL, AND, AND WE ALLOWED THE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR TODAY. WE WILL KEEP THAT ON RECORD. IT'S ON THE RECORD. AND THEN IN A MONTH, YOU KNOW, WE WILL BE REHEARING THE CASE. AND YOU WERE FREE TO MAY THE 16TH. WHEN DOES IT GO FRONT OF THE CITY COUNCIL? I DON'T KNOW IF WHEN IT WOULD GO BEFORE CITY COUNCIL. IT'S GENERALLY A MONTH FROM THE DATE THAT THE ZONING COMMISSION MAKES A RECOMMENDATION ON THE ITEM. SO IT WOULD BE AT LEAST 30 DAYS. THAT'S OKAY. AFTER IT'S HEARD BY THE ZONING COMMISSION. SO, AND IT IS, IT'S JUST DUE PROCESS. IT'S DUE PROCESS TO THE APPLICANT AND IT'S DUE PROCESS TO YOU GUYS. SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY. YES. BUT, AND, AND WE WILL PROBABLY, MANY OF US WILL PROBABLY DO THAT. SO THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. IF WE COULD MOVE ON TO OUR INDIVIDUAL ITEMS. I BELIEVE ITEM NUMBER IS IT? ITEM NUMBER ONE IS ON FIRST STEP. IF WE COULD HAVE STAFF'S PRESENTATION PLEASE. I GOT THAT. GOOD AFTERNOON. CHAIR COMMISSIONERS JEREMY MCDONALD, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ENGINEER IN THE INSPECTIONS DEPARTMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT. I'M ALSO THE BOARD LIAISON FOR THE BUILDING RELATED FIRE [01:05:01] CODES, APPEALS AND ADVISORY BOARD. I APPRECIATE Y'ALL LETTING ME PRESENT TO Y'ALL TODAY. AN UPDATE FOR CONSIDERATION FOR THE HILL COUNTRY GATEWAY CORRIDOR SPECIFIC TO ON-PREMISE DIGITAL SIGNS. UH, BEFORE I START GOING INTO MY PRESENTATION, I WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR WHEN IT COMES, COMES TO SIGNAGE, WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF SIGNS, UH, FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, GOVERNED BY CHAPTER 28. ONE IS WHAT WE CALL A BILLBOARD. SO I KNOW A LOT OF THE, UH, NOTICES THAT WE RECEIVED VIA EMAIL, AND I'M SURE SOME OF THE PHONE CALLS THAT WE'LL LISTEN TO WILL MENTION BILLBOARDS. IT'S, I DON'T WANT, I DON'T WANT Y'ALL TO THINK THAT THEY'RE THINKING BILLBOARDS ONLY. THEY'RE PROBABLY JUST USING THAT AS A TERM. UH, BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT SOMETHING CALLED AN OFF-PREMISE SIGN, THAT'S A SIGN THAT COULD BE PLACED ANYWHERE. AND IT DOES, AND IT CAN ADVERTISE FOR PRODUCTS THAT ARE NOT SPECIFICALLY AT THAT LOCATION THAT THE SIGN IS LOCATED. SO WE WOULD CALL THAT AN OFF-PREMISE. AND TYPICALLY THAT WOULD BE A BILLBOARD. SO YOU SEE THE LARGE 600 SQUARE FEET OR LARGER BILLBOARDS THROUGHOUT THE CITY, MOSTLY ON EXPRESSWAYS, LARGER ARTILLERY STREETS. THOSE ARE OFF-PREMISE BILLBOARDS. UH, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE WHAT WE CALL ON-PREMISE SIGNAGE. ON-PREMISE SIGNAGE IS WHENEVER YOU HAVE A BUSINESS AND YOU WANT TO ADVERTISE A PRODUCT OR A SERVICE PROVIDED DIRECTLY AT THAT PREMISE, THEN YOU CAN DO THAT. UH, BUT YOU CANNOT ADVERTISE ANYTHING OFF THAT PREMISE. UH, SO EVEN IF YOU OWN SOMETHING, SO IF YOU HAVE A MCDONALD'S, YOU CAN ADVERTISE FOR ANY PRODUCTS THAT YOU SERVE RIGHT THERE FOR THAT MCDONALD'S. OR IF YOU'RE A C P A, YOU CAN ADVERTISE FOR THAT C P A BUSINESS. BUT IF YOU'RE AN OFF-PREMISE SIGN, THEN OF COURSE THE OWNERS OF THAT SIGN CAN BE PAID TO ADVERTISE FOR ANY, ANY INDUSTRY THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SELL TO. UH, SO SOMETIMES I THINK THEY'RE USING THE TERM BILLBOARD THROUGHOUT A LOT OF THE THINGS. WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS NOT A BILLBOARD. UH, THE DIGITAL CONVERSION THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS FOR ON-PREMISE SIGNS ONLY. NOW, AND I'LL MENTION DURING MY PRESENTATION, WE ARE UPDATING CHAPTER 28 AND ONE OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES IS TO ALLOW CONVERSION OF BILLBOARDS THROUGHOUT THE CITY TO DIGITAL AS A TAKE DOWN PROCESS TO REMOVE THE NUMBER OF BILLBOARDS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. HILL COUNTRY GATEWAY CORRIDOR IS SPECIFICALLY DESIGNATED AS NOT ALLOWED FOR THAT CONVERSION. SO THERE NO BILLBOARDS WOULD BE ALLOWED. UH, CURRENTLY WITH THE PROPOSED CHANGES OF CHAPTER 28 TO BEVER CONVERTED TO DIL, UH, DIGITAL AND NO NEW BILLBOARDS ARE ALLOWED ALONG THE HILL COUNTRY GATEWAY CORRIDOR AS PART OF THE EXISTING, UH, ORDINANCE. UH, SO EVERYTHING WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT TODAY WILL BE ON PREMISE ONLY. SO, JUST A REAL QUICK BRIEF HISTORY ON WHAT THE HILL COUNTRY GATEWAY CORRIDOR IS. IT'S AN OVERLAY THROUGH, UH, ESTABLISHING DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ALONG I H 10. IT RUNS FROM U T S A BOULEVARD OUT TO THE CITY OF LIMITS OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. THIS WAS ORIGINALLY CREATED IN 2003. IN 2015. UH, THEN COUNCILMAN NURNBERG, NOW MAYOR NURNBERG PUT IN A C C R ASKING DEVELOPMENT SERVICES STAFF TO REEVALUATE THAT OVERLAY. UH, IN THE 12 YEARS FROM THE ORIGINAL DECISION, UH, DESIGN OF 2003 VERSION, THERE'S A LOT OF CONS COMMERCIAL GOING ON OUT THERE. THE NODE OF 1604 AND I 10 WAS CHANGING QUITE A BIT. SO HE ASKED US TO, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THAT, SEE OUR DESIGN STANDARDS STILL IN LINE WITH A LOT OF OTHER STANDARDS WERE REQUIRING ALONG THAT AREA. AND THEN ALSO TO KINDA LOOK AT THAT NODE, UH, BETWEEN 1604 AND I 10 INTERCHANGE AND SEE, YOU KNOW, THE CURRENT GUIDELINES OF THE HILL COUNTRY GATEWAY CORRIDOR, IF THEY STILL MADE SENSE, UH, FOR THE CURRENT INDUSTRY THAT WAS GOING ON OUT THERE. UH, SO WE LOOKED AT THAT AND KIND OF THE PROCESS. WE HELD DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, YOU KNOW, AS, AS OUR TYPICAL APPROACH. WE REACHED OUT TO ALL THE DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS. UH, WE HELD TWO PUBLIC MEETINGS. UH, AT THAT POINT. THEY REACHED OUT VIA MAILERS, UH, TO EVERYBODY THAT WAS IMPACTED. UH, ANY OF THE PROPERTIES WITHIN THE HILL COUNTRY GATEWAY CORRIDOR, WHICH RUNS ALONG THE, THE I 10 THERE AND I THINK ABOUT A THOUSAND FEET ON EACH SIDE, PLUS THE EXTRA 200 FEET. WE SENT OUT MAILERS AND LET THEM KNOW ABOUT TWO MEETINGS THAT WE HELD. UH, FROM THERE WE ALSO LOOKED AT, UH, OUR CURRENT ORDINANCES AND THINGS SUCH AS THAT TO SEE IF THERE'S, IF IT WAS STILL IN LINE WITH THAT. AND THEN SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT CLARIFICATION, UH, ALONG THAT, THAT NODE AND LOOKING AT ABOUT A HALF MILE RADIUS AROUND THAT NODE. SO THE PROPOSED CHANGES AFTER THOSE MEETINGS AND STAKEHOLDER, UH, DISCUSSIONS AND REVIEW OF CURRENT STANDARDS, THEY DECIDED THERE WAS A FEW MODIFICATIONS THEY MADE THROUGHOUT THE, THE, THE GATE, UH, THE, THE CORRIDOR THE OVERLAY. BUT FOR THE MOST PART, THERE WERE MORE CLARIFICATION. UH, NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGES FOR THE WHOLE OVERLAY AS A WHOLE. REALLY, WHAT THEY CAME BACK WITH AND PRESENTED TO THE ZONING COMMISSION WAS WITHIN A HALF MILE RADIUS OF THAT NODAL INTERCHANGE. THEY WERE LOOKING AT ADDING ADDITIONAL COLORS ALLOWED FOR THE BUILDINGS AND MATERIALS, AND THEN ALSO BUILDING MATERIALS, UH, TO BE ADDED TO THE LIST FOR JUST THAT OVERLAY OR THAT, THAT NODAL, UH, SECTION. SO THAT BROUGHT THAT HALF A MILE RADIUS AROUND THE INTERCHANGE. SO ALL OF THAT WAS, UM, NONE OF DURING THAT TIME, SINCE WE WEREN'T LOOKING AT SIGNAGE AT ALL DURING THIS 2015 CHANGE, WE WEREN'T REALLY REACHING OUT TO THE SIGN INDUSTRY OR BUSINESSES ASSOCIATING WITH SIGNS TO KIND OF DISCUSS ANY CHANGES. 'CAUSE THAT WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS LOOKED AT PER THIS C C R. THE PROPOSED CHANGES WERE PRESENTED TO THE ZONING COMMISSION. UH, WHEN THEY PRE PRESENTED IT TO THE ZONING COMMISSION, THE COMMISSION COMMISSIONER RECOMMENDED THE APPROVAL, BUT THEY ALSO REQUESTED THAT WE ADD A BAN ON DIGITAL SIGNS ALONG THE HILL COUNTRY GATEWAY [01:10:01] CORRIDOR. AND A COUPLE SLIDES, I'LL TALK ABOUT WHAT WAS ALLOWED FOR THE HILL COUNTRY GATEWAY CORRIDOR BEFORE THAT BAN AND WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, AND WHICH, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ASK TO GO BACK TO. UH, SO BECAUSE WE WEREN'T REALLY ANTICIPATING THAT BEFORE WE BROUGHT IT TO THE COMMISSIONER, WE'D NEVER BROUGHT IN THE SIGN INDUSTRY TO TALK ABOUT THESE CHANGES. WE DIDN'T DO THAT PRO POST THAT AS WELL. AT THAT POINT. WE REALLY SHOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, PAUSE THE SYSTEM SAID, OKAY, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ASKING US TO MAKE SOME CHANGES THAT WILL IMPACT STAKEHOLDERS THAT WE DID NOT INVOLVE IN THIS PROCESS INITIALLY. UH, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN. SIGN INDUSTRY WAS NOT MADE AWARE OF THE PROPOSED CHANGE. IT WENT TO CITY COUNCIL AND WAS APPROVED. SO IN, IN 2015, ULTIMATELY THE, THE BAN ON DIGITAL SCIENCE FOR ON-PREMISE ALONG THE HILL COUNTRY GATEWAY CORRIDOR WENT INTO EFFECT AND NOBODY WAS REALLY NOTIFIED. UM, SO ALL THAT WAS APPROVED BACK IN 2015, AND THAT'S THE CURRENT VERSION THAT WE'RE UNDER. SO WHERE ARE WE AT TODAY? SO, WHAT'S GOING ON IS, I MENTIONED I'M THE BOARD LIAISON FOR THE BUILDING RELATED FIRE CODES AND APPEALS AND ADVISORY BOARD THAT OVERSEES CHAPTER 28. CHAPTER 28 IS WHAT REGULATES SIGNS IN BILLBOARDS IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. WE WERE UPDATING THAT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE U D C THROUGHOUT 2022. ONE OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES WAS ASKING US TO REVISIT THIS, UH, THE PROPOSED VAN THAT CAME INTO EFFECT IN 2015. A LOT OF THIS CAME OUT IN 2019. WE THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA BE UPDATING THE CHAPTER 28 AND 2020, BUT WITH MOST THINGS, IT GOT PUSHED OFF BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC. SO WE DIDN'T SIT DOWN AND START TALKING ABOUT, ABOUT THAT UNTIL ABOUT A YEAR AGO. UH, THE SIGN CODE COMMITTEE, WHICH IS A COMMITTEE THAT WAS DEVELOPED AND CREATED BY THE BUILDING RELATED FIRE CODES AND APPEALS BOARD, IT'S DEVELOPED, IT'S MADE UP OF MEMBERS OF THAT BOARD, WHICH IS A VERY TECHNICAL BOARD. UH, SO IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE BOARD MEMBERS, WE ALSO BROUGHT IN FOUR NON APPOINTED MEMBERS. SO COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND OTHER INDUSTRY MEMBERS, UH, TO BE PART OF THAT BOARD. I WILL SAY THAT THEY SET IN ON ALL THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS, BUT THEY, IT'S A NON-VOTING POSITION. SO THEY CAN COME IN, SPEAK, BE PART OF EVERY DISCUSSION, UH, BUT ULTIMATELY NO VOTES WERE WEIGHED BY ANY OF THEIRS. BUT WE DID TRY TO TAKE THEIR VOTE INTO CONSIDERATION EACH TIME AND, AND, AND LET EVERYBODY KNOW WHEN THERE WAS NOT A FULL CONSENSUS BETWEEN APPOINTED AND NON APPOINTED BOARD MEMBERS. AND I KNOW WE HAVE A FEW OF THE NON APPOINTED BOARD MEMBERS HERE TODAY, AND I THINK SOME OF 'EM HAVE WRITTEN IN ABOUT THIS AS WELL. SO THAT COMMITTEE FIRST MET, WE CREATED A WORKING GROUP TO DISCUSS THIS ITEM. THEY MET WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS, WITH THE, THE NON APPOINTED MEMBERS. UH, IT REALLY WASN'T A BOARD MEMBER, UH, THING SINCE IT WAS A WORKING GROUP. WE HAD ACTUALLY LIMITED TO JUST ONE BOARD MEMBER THAT COULD BE AT THAT WORKING GROUP. THEY SAT AND THEY DISCUSSED WITH THE INDUSTRY THAT PROVIDED, OR INDUSTRY THAT ASKED FOR THIS CHANGE. AND THEY DISCUSSED, AND THEY KIND OF SAID THE BIGGEST ISSUE THAT CAME UP WAS IN 2015, THERE WAS NO ROBUST DISCUSSION IN ALLOWING STAKEHOLDERS TO FULLY GET INVOLVED AND, AND WEIGH THIS CHANGE AND PROPOSAL BEFORE GOING TO CITY COUNCIL. SO THEIR ASK WAS, WELL, IT'S D S D STAFF WORK ON GETTING THAT COMMUNITY OUTREACH. UH, SO WHAT WE DID FROM THAT WAS WE HELD TWO COMMUNITY MEETINGS. UH, WE FOLLOWED THE SAME KIND OF GUIDELINES OF WHAT THEY DID IN 2015 WHEN THEY UPDATED THE WHOLE, UH, ORDINANCE AND THE WHOLE OVERLAY. WE DID TWO MEETINGS. ONE WAS ACTUALLY ON THE HILL COUNTRY GATEWAY CORRIDOR AT LEON SPRINGS ELEMENTARY, ONE HERE AT OUR OFFICES. WE SENT OUT 741 MAILERS, UH, TO ALL THE PROPERTIES ALONG THAT CORRIDOR, INVITING THEM TO THOSE MEETINGS. WE NOTIFIED THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS, ESPECIALLY DISTRICT EIGHT AND OTHER CONS DISTRICTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. WE LET ALL THE VARIOUS INDUSTRIES KNOW ALL THE DIFFERENT CHAMBERS, COMMERCE, UH, THINGS SUCH AS THAT TO BE AWARE OF THAT. AND ALL, AS MANY STAKEHOLDERS AS WE HAD SIGNED UP, UH, THROUGHOUT THE SIGN CODE UPDATES, AND A LOT OF THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE AREAS AS WELL, EVEN THOUGH THEY WEREN'T TECHNICALLY WITHIN THAT 200 FOOT. SO THEY MAY NOT HAVE HAD A MAILER, BUT WE EMAILED THEM AND LET 'EM NOTIFY. ALSO PUT IT ON ALL OUR SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO WE TRY TO MAKE IT AS, AS ROBUST OF A OUTREACH AS WE COULD, UH, TO GET SOME FEEDBACK ON THIS. UH, WE DID ONLY HAVE ABOUT NINE, NINE TURNOUT ACROSS THOSE TWO MEETINGS. UH, I WOULD SAY IT WAS AN EVEN BETWEEN INDUSTRY AND, UH, PROPONENTS AGAINST IT AND RESIDENTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. BUT IT WAS ABOUT NINE TURNOUT, UH, ACROSS THE TWO MEETINGS BASED ON THE TURNOUT AND THE FEEDBACK. SO WE WENT BACK TO THE SIGN CODE COMMITTEE, WHICH ULTIMATELY WENT BACK TO, UH, BUILDING RELATED FIRE CODES AND ADVISORY ADVISORY BOARD. THE, THE BOARD ACCEPTED THE, UH, COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH CONVERTING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE, THE 2003 LANGUAGE, ALLOWING LIMITED SIZE DIGITAL BILLBOARDS ALONG, I'M SORRY, ONCE AGAIN, THAT'S . EVEN I'M NOT USING THE RIGHT NOMA FARE, UH, ON ONSITE, UH, DIGITAL ONSITE, UH, SIGNS. UH, WE ALSO WENT TO THE PLANNING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE FOR THE WHOLE CHAPTER 28, ALL THE PROPOSED CHANGES. WE DID HIGHLIGHT THIS ONE, UH, TO THAT COMMITTEE. AND THEY PROPOSED MOVING EVERYTHING FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL REVIEW. NOW, AFTER THAT FACT, WE MET WITH OUR LEGAL TEAM BECAUSE THIS DOES MODIFY A ZONING OVERLAY. UH, WE FELT LIKE WE NEEDED TO COME TO ZONING AS WELL AND KIND OF CHECK ALL THE BOXES, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE MEETING EVERYTHING LEGALLY AND GIVING AS MUCH TO THE COMMUNITY A CHANCE TO DISCUSS THIS. UH, AND LIKE I SAID, MY BOARD IS VERY TECHNICAL. THIS ONE DOES REACH OUT AND TOUCH ALL THE DIFFERENT, UM, DISTRICTS AND MAYOR A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN MINE. MINE, IT'S A VERY TECHNICAL BOARD BASED AROUND INDUSTRIES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO IT DOESN'T HAVE ALL THE DISTRICTS TAKEN CARE OF. [01:15:01] UH, SO THAT WAS KIND OF THE, THE CHANGE THAT WE MADE WAS TO COME HERE AND SPEAK ABOUT THIS ONE ITEM ONLY. ON THIS SLIDE, WHAT I WANNA TALK ABOUT IS WHAT IS THE ASK AND WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE? SO ON THE LEFT HERE, WHERE THERE IS NO OVERLAY, UH, WHAT IS ALLOWED FOR AN ON-PREMISE SIGN, NOW THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT, NOW WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS AN EXPRESSWAY ONLY. SO IF YOU HAVE PROPERTY ALONG AN EXPRESSWAY AND YOU HAVE MULTI-TENANT, SO MORE THAN, UH, ONE TENANT USING THAT SIGN, YOUR MAXIMUM HEIGHT WOULD BE 60 FEET. NOW, IF YOU'RE OFF AN EXPRESSWAY, IF YOU ONLY HAVE SINGLE TENANT, IT GOES DOWN FROM THERE. BUT I DIDN'T WANNA LOAD Y'ALL UP WITH A BUNCH OF CHARTS. UH, SO WE'RE KINDA LOOKING AT THE MAXIMUM ACROSS ALL 360 FEET WOULD BE THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT ALLOWED FOR ANYWHERE ELSE FOR ON-PREMISE SIGNAGE ALONG THE EXPRESSWAY. THE SIZE OF THAT COULD BE 650 SQUARE FEET, MAXIMUM SIGN AREA, AND 375 SQUARE FEET OF THAT COULD BE A DIGITAL SIGN. SO AN EXAMPLE OF THAT IS, YOU CAN KINDA SEE THE ONE, THE PICTURE WE HAVE, UNFORTUNATELY THERE ARE SIGNS A LITTLE BIT DAMAGED, BUT THIS IS, UH, WONDERLAND OF, UH, MALL RIGHT OFF OF, UH, FOUR 10 AND FREDERICKSBURG ROAD. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IT'S, IT'S A GOOD SIZE SIGN. UH, THAT 375 SQUARE FEET PLUS ADDITIONAL, UH, OFF TO THE SIDE THERE OF WHAT WE CALL PRINTED OUR STATIC SIGNAGE. THE HILL COUNTRY GATEWAY CORRIDOR ORDINANCE IN 2003 REDUCED THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT. SO WHEN THEY MET WITH ALL THE SIGN INDUSTRY DISCUSSED, THIS GOT SOME FEEDBACK AND SOME COMPROMISES. THEY MOVED THE ALLOWABLE HEIGHT OF ANY SIGNS TO, TO 40 FEET MAXIMUM INSTEAD OF 60 ALONG THE EXPRESSWAY. UH, REDUCED IT FROM 650 SQUARE FEET TO 300 SQUARE FEET FOR ANY SIZE SIGN, UH, FOR MULTI-TENANT, AND THEN MAXIMIZED IT TO 25% OF THE ALLOWABLE SIGN. SO THE ALLOW, THE LARGEST SIGN ALLOWED IS 300 SQUARE FEET. SO 25% OF THAT WOULD BE 75 SQUARE FEET. IF YOU ARE A SINGLE TENANT, UH, IT GETS SMALLER THAN THAT. SO IT KIND OF REDUCES IF YOU'RE OFF THE EXPRESSWAY. SO IT CAN GET SMALLER. BUT THE LARGEST DIGITAL SIGN THAT YOU WOULD ALLOWED TO HAVE ALONG THE HILL COUNTRY GATEWAY CORRIDOR AND THE 2003 VERSION WAS 75 SQUARE FEET. AN EXAMPLE OF THAT IS THE ELON, UH, DIVI, UH, SHOPPING CENTER, UH, SIGN THAT THEY HAVE ALONG THEIR EXPRESSWAY THERE AFTER THE CHANGE. UH, ULTIMATELY IT'S THE EXACT SAME THING. THE ONLY THING THAT WAS CHANGED IS THEY BANNED THE DIGITAL SIGN. SO, UH, THAT WAS THE CHANGE THAT WAS MADE. UH, BUT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO HIGHLIGHT HERE IS DURING THE, THE 2003 VERSION, WHEN ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS CAME TOGETHER, THE SIGN INDUSTRY DID MAKE A LOT OF COMPROMISES TO, TO REDUCE SIZES AND LIMIT, UH, THE SIZES OF WHAT THE DIGITAL FROM WHAT WAS ALLOWED OF 3 75 ORIGINALLY TO JUST 75 SQUARE FEET. SO BASED ON MOVING THROUGH THE PROCESS, HAVING MET, UH, REACHED OUT TO COMMUNITY, HELD THROUGH THE SIGN CODE COMMITTEE, HAVING GONE THROUGH THE BUILDING RELATED FIRE CODES AND APPEALS BOARD AND P C D C STAFF DOES RECOMMEND MOVING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL 2015 CHANGE. NOW, WE DID WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE SOME ERRORS THAT WE AT LEAST TAKE CARE OF. AS I MENTIONED IN THE 2015 CHANGE, A LOT OF PEOPLE WEREN'T NOTIFIED, UNFORTUNATELY, EVEN INTERNALLY, WE HAD SOME ISSUES WITH THAT AND WEREN'T FULLY AWARE OF THE CHANGE. AND SO, UH, SIX PERMITS HAD BEEN ISSUED FROM 2015 TO 2019, ALLOWING SOME DIGITAL SIGNS. IN 2019 IS WHEN WE DETER, UH, FOUND THAT OUT FROM OUR ONE PERMIT EVALUATION AND DETERMINED THAT WE WERE ISSUING THOSE IN ERROR. AND THAT'S WHEN WE STOPPED IT AND KIND OF WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS THINKING IT WOULD BE 2020 BEFORE WE ADDRESSED IT. SO WE HAVE SIX SIGNS THAT IF THE DECISION FROM COUNSEL IS NOT TO APPROVE, GOING BACK AND REMOVING THE BAN AND ALLOWING UP TO 75 SQUARE FOOT OF DIGITAL SIGNS, THEN WE MAKE THOSE SIX SIGNS, WHICH ALL OF THEM ARE BELOW 75 SQUARE FEET. THEY MEET THE 2003 VERSION OF THE ORDINANCE, A NON-CONFORMING STRUCTURE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO REQUIRE THEM TO REMOVE THEM. SO, UH, ALL, ALL SIX OF THOSE ARE INSTALLED. TWO OF THEM ARE ACTUALLY NOT BEEN TURNED ON. WE TOLD THEM 'CAUSE THEY KIND OF GET RUN, THE TAIL END OF HAVING THEM BE INSTALLED IS WHEN WE DETERMINED THE, THE ERROR. SO WE TOLD THEM THEY COULDN'T TURN 'EM ON. SO TWO OF THEM ARE NOT TURNED ON CURRENTLY. UH, BUT THEY WOULD ALTERNATE HAVE TO BE CAME DOWN. SO THE, OUR ALTERNATE APPROVAL REQUEST IS THAT IF THEY DON'T APPROVE THE BAND REMOVAL, THAT WE ALLOW THOSE SIX TO BECOME NON-CONFORMING STRUCTURES AND CONTINUE TO BE USED. WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT THESE SIGNS IN THE FOUR YEARS OR MORE THAT THEY'VE BEEN INSTALLED. THEN THAT IS STAFF'S PRE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? YES, WE DO HAVE, UM, VOICEMAILS TO BE PLAYED AND WE HAVE A FEW SPEAKERS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON US. WE HAVE THE VOICEMAILS FIRST. HI, MY NAME IS BLANCA BIRD. I'M CALLING ABOUT THE AGENDA ITEM FOR BILLBOARDS IN THE HILL COUNTRY. UM, THE HILL COUNTRY CORRIDOR BILLBOARD, UM, ISSUE THAT'S COMING UP BEFORE ZONING. AND I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS MY, UM, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I DO NOT WANT BILLBOARDS IN THAT CORRIDOR, ESPECIALLY NOT DIGITAL BILLBOARDS AS THEY MAY AFFECT, UM, THE WORK THAT THE MILITARY IS TRYING TO DO. AND, UM, THE FACT THAT THE DIGITAL BILLBOARDS ARE OFTEN TOO BRIGHT AT NIGHT [01:20:01] AND, UH, UPSET THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT. UM, MY NAME IS BLANCA BIRD 2 1 0. UM, LET'S SEE, 2 6 3 MONTPELIER DRIVE SAN ANTONIO, 7 8 2 2 8. I AM AGAINST BILLBOARDS IN THE HILL COUNTRY. THERE WAS NO AGENDA, UH, ITEM NUMBER OR CASE NUMBER. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. THIS IS BONNIE CONNOR CALLING, UH, ADDRESS 37 50 HUNTER CIRCLE, SAN ANTONIO, 7 8 2 3 0 0. UH, I WANT TO ADD ADDRESS ITEM NUMBER ONE. UH, I'LL MAKE A QUICK COMMENT ABOUT THE HILL COUNTRY CORRIDOR THAT IS MENTIONED IN THIS STATEMENT THAT WAS DEVELOPED IN AND PASSED BY THE COUNCIL IN 2003. AND IF YOU CAN VISUALIZE WHAT THAT AREA WAS LIKE, IT WAS BEAUTIFUL COUNTRYSIDE WITH BUILDINGS THAT WERE JUST STARTING TO BE DEVELOPED IN THAT AREA. SO THAT ORDINANCE WAS DEVELOPED IN ORDER TO KEEP SOME DESIGN STANDARDS AND ELIMINATE VISUAL CLUTTER IF POSSIBLE. WELL, TIME HAS GONE BY AND, UH, SIGNS HAVE BEEN ERECTED, EVEN FIVE WERE ERECTED THAT WERE NOT PERMITTED. SO I WILL JUST ADD AT THIS POINT, UH, THE SIGNED COMMITTEE MEETINGS BEGAN. I BELIEVE IT WAS PRE COVID AND THEY HAVE CONTINUED UP UNTIL, UH, THIS YEAR. THE POINT I WANT TO MAKE ON THAT, I WANT TO DRAW YOUR REPRESENTATIVES. THERE WERE THREE WOMEN AND ONE MAN. UH, THE WOMEN ATTENDED ALL THE MEETINGS. I'M NOT SURE IF THE MAN ATTENDED MORE THAN ONE OR TWO. THE POINT IS THEY REPRESENTED THE COMMUNITY INTEREST IN SAN ANTONIO. JUST AS YOU DO. THAT IS YOUR ROLE. BUT THEY WERE ALL AD HOC MEMBERS. THEY WERE DEDICATED TO LISTEN, UH, TO PRESENT IDEAS, BUT THEY COULD NOT VOTE AT THE END. SO I WANT TO, UH, I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO BE DELIBERATED ON BY THE ZONING COMMISSION OR STAFF. I WANNA THANK JEREMY MCDONALD AND THEIR STAFF FOR THEIR EFFICIENCY IN PROVIDING AGENDAS AND IN ANY INFORMATION. SO, JEREMY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOU HAVE DONE. COLLEEN WAPAC 1603 TARTAN LANE, SAN ANTONIO, 7 8 2 3 1 2 1 0 2 5 9 7 0 6 7. GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. I'M SPEAKING TO YOU TODAY TO ASK YOU TO OPPOSE LIFTING OF THE RESTRICTIONS ON NEW ON PREMISE DIGITAL SIGNS IN THE HILL COUNTRY GATEWAY CORRIDOR. THIS RESTRICTION WAS ADDED BY THE ZONING COMMISSION IN 2015 AS 1,015 AS A COMPROMISE WHEN OTHER RESTRICTIONS IN THE QUARTER WERE ELIMINATED ON-PREMISE. SIGNAGE IS IMPORTANT FOR WAYFINDING, HOWEVER, IN THIS AREA, IT IS IMPORTANT FOR DRIVERS TO KNOW THE EXIT THEY NEED TO USE. DIGITAL SIGNS WILL ONLY SERVE TO THE SCRAP DRIVERS ON THE HIGHWAY IN THIS HEAVILY TRAVELED AREA. ADDITIONALLY, IF THE DI DIT SIGNS, PARTICULARLY THE TYPE WITH MOTION ARE ADDED, IT COULD THREATEN THE MILITARY MISSION OF CAMP BULLIS. AS PILOTS CONDUCTING TRAINING FLIGHTS ARE DISTRACTED BY THE MOVEMENT AND LIGHT TO ENSURE THAT THEIR OPINIONS OF BOTH RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS OWNERS IN THIS RAPIDLY DEVELOPING AREA WERE CONSIDERED IN DECIDING WHETHER THE RESTRICTIONS SHOULD BE LIFTED. UH, TWO PUBLIC MEETINGS WERE NOTICED AND CONDUCTED. NO BUSINESS LEADERS FROM THE AFFECTED AREAS WHO DID NOT ALREADY HAVE DIGITAL SIGNAGE SHOWED UP TO INDICATE THAT SUCH SIGNAGE WAS NECESSARY FOR THE VIABILITY OF THEIR BUSINESSES. I SERVED ON THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO THE CHAPTER 8 28 UPDATE. THREE OF THE FOUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO SERVED ON THIS COMMITTEE ATTENDED MOST OF THE MEETINGS AND VOTED NOT TO LIFT THEIR RESTRICTIONS ON DIGITAL SIGNS, BUT TO ALLOW THE DIGITAL SIGNS WHICH WERE PERMITTED IN ERROR TO REMAIN. AS THOSE OWNERS HAVE ALREADY INVESTED IN THAT SIGNAGE, I ASK THAT EACH OF YOU VOTE AGAINST LIFTING THE RESTRICTION ON DIGITAL SIGNAGE IN THIS IMPORTANT CORRIDOR, WHICH SERVES AS SAN ANTONIO'S INTRODUCTION TO THE HILL COUNTRY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. YES, MY NAME IS DOUG WALDORF. I LIVE AT 8 4 1 1 WICKERSHAM SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 5 4. I'M CALLING REGARDING THE HILL COUNTRY GATEWAY CORRIDOR. I'M VOTING, UH, I'M, I'M CALLING TO VOICE MY OPPOSITION TO THE MEASURE TO REPEAL THE BAN ON [01:25:01] DIGITAL BILLBOARDS ALONG THE CORRIDOR. I'M VERY MUCH AGAINST THIS. THE LAST THING WE NEED IS FOR MORE AND MORE FRAUDULENT LAWYER BILLBOARDS ALLEGING BILLION DOLLAR RECOVERIES ALL LIT UP ALONG THE GORGEOUS CORRIDOR. WE DON'T NEED IT. IT'S FINE AS IT IS. PLEASE VOTE AGAINST THE BAN ON THE DIGITAL BILLBOARDS. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS ED REISLING. I LIVE AT 9 6 1 1 1 WATA AVENUE IN SAN ANTONIO. I'M CALLING REGARDING THE ZONING COMMISSION HILL COUNTRY DIGITAL BILLBOARD BIN DISCUSSION. MY BIRTHDAY, MY 80TH BIRTHDAY IS ON APRIL 18TH. PLEASE DO ME, UH, FAVOR AND DO NOT ALLOW MORE BILLBOARDS TO BE CONSTRUCTED IN OUR BEAUTIFUL TEXAS HILL COUNTRY. MY SON RESIDES AT 1 1 4 CANYON RIDGE DRIVE IN BURN TEXAS. I'D HATE TO SEE HIM HAVE TO FACE MORE BILLBOARDS ALONG THE I 10 CORRIDOR. THANK YOU. ELAINE VETTER, 3 9 1 1 4 CREEK STREET, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 3 0 2 1 0 4 0 8 6 6 6 6. AND I'M CALLING ABOUT THIS HILL COUNTRY BILLBOARD PLAN. UM, WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE SIGNAGE OR ANYTHING THAT IS GOING TO TAKE AWAY FROM OUR BEAUTIFUL VIEW OF THE HILL COUNTRY IN SAN ANTONIO. I MEAN, WE'VE GOT ENOUGH SIGNS. DON'T PUT THIS THROUGH. I KNOW IT'S MONEY IN SOMEBODY'S POCKET. SOMEBODY IS MAKING MONEY OFF OF THIS. UH, WE DON'T NEED THOSE SIGNS UP. SO LISTEN TO THE REGULAR PEOPLE AND DON'T APPROVE THAT. DON'T PUT IT THROUGH. WE DO NOT NEED ANYMORE BILLBOARDS IN THE TEXAS HILL COUNTRY. ALONG 10. THANK YOU. HELLO, THIS IS GRETCHEN ROSE AT TWO 15 MISSION STREET, SAN ANTONIO, 7 8 2 1 0 7 7 2 6 9 6 1 9 1 8. UM, THERE IS NO CASE NUMBER, BUT I'M CALLING IN REGARDS TO, UM, THE, UH, HILL COUNTY BAN ON DIGITAL BILLBOARDS AND TO STRONGLY URGE THE ZONING COMMISSION TO, UH, CONTINUE WITH THAT BAN, NOT TO REMOVE IT. UM, I I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE MAINTAIN THE BEAUTY OF, OF THAT AREA. UH, AND, AND, AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN DO MORE, UM, LIKE SAY FOR INSTANCE, ALONG THE HIGHWAYS. BUT, UH, BUT FOR NOW, LET'S, LET'S WORK ON THAT. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. 7 7 2 6 9 6 1 9 1 8. GRETCHEN ROSE. BYE-BYE. MY NAME IS KATHLEEN BAILEY. I LIVE AT 7 22 WEST FRENCH PLACE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 1 2. IT'S REGARDING THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO CHAPTER 28 OF THE SIGN CODE FOR THE HILL COUNTRY GATEWAY CORRIDOR. UH, IN 1965, THE HIGHWAY BEAUTIFICATION ACT WAS PASSED UNDER THE ADMINISTRATION OF PRESIDENT LYNDON JOHNSON. THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, THIS ACT HAS BEEN COMPROMISED, COMPROMISED BY OUTDOOR ADVERTISING COMPANIES, FINDING LOOPHOLES THAT HAVE LED TO THE PROLIFERATION OF BILLBOARDS ON SCENIC CORRIDORS. THE PRESIDENT OF THE SCENIC AMERICA, ED MCMA MCMAHON, SPOKE 30 YEARS AGO AT A CONSERVATION SOCIETY SEMINAR ON SIGNAGE. HIS MESSAGE IS ONE, I WILL NOT FORGET. HE SAID, YOU HAVE THE POWER TO SPEAK UP AND INFLUENCE WHAT HAPPENS TO WHERE YOU LIVE. PLEASE DO NOT REMOVE THE HILL COUNTRY BAN ON DIGITAL BILLBOARDS AND PRESERVE THE LEGACY OF LADY BIRD JOHNSON AND THE BEAUTY OF THE TEXAS HILL COUNTRY, AS WELL AS KEEPING OUR ROADWAYS SAFE. THANK YOU. SO THAT'S IT OF VOICEMAILS. UM, WE DO HAVE SPEAKERS SIGNED UP. UM, I HAVE MS. KATHLEEN TRENCHARD. AND THEN AFTER MS. TRENCHARD IS MR. LARRY GOTTMAN. ALRIGHT, MS. TRENCHER, IF YOU COMMISSIONERS, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. AND IF YOU JUST GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. THEY ARE. NOW YOU CAN HEAR ME. OKAY. MY NAME IS KATHLEEN TRENCHARD. I LIVE AT 1 0 5 NORTH JOSEPHINE TOBIN DRIVE. AND I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE HISTORY, UM, THAT I'VE OBSERVED HERE. LIVING IN SAN ANTONIO. 20 YEARS AGO, [01:30:01] OUR CITY LEADERS HAD A VISION FOR A MORE SCENIC, CHARMING CITYSCAPE, ESPECIALLY ALONG THE CORRIDORS LEADING FROM THE AIRPORT INTO DOWNTOWN SAN ANTONIO. OUR CITY STAFF ORGANIZED MANY PUBLIC MEETINGS IN EVENINGS AND CONVENIENT LOCATIONS. THESE MEETINGS ATTRACTED MANY BUSINESS AND PROPERTY OWNERS. THEY WERE GIVEN WRITTEN QUESTIONNAIRES AND SURVEYS. THESE WERE TAKEN UP AND THE RESULTS WERE REPORTED BACK TO THE STAKEHOLDERS. BILLBOARDS WERE THE MOST UNPOPULAR COMPONENT, AS YOU JUST HEARD, AND THEY WERE ALSO IN FAVOR OF MORE STRINGENT REGULATIONS ON SIZE AND HEIGHT OF ON-PREMISE SIGNAGE, DISCREET SIGNAGE AND MORE LANDSCAPING WERE EMBRACED IN THE HOPE OF MAKING OUR STREETS MORE INVITING AND LESS CLUTTERED. THESE PROPOSED CORRIDOR REGULATIONS WERE CHAMPIONED BY THE LIKES OF CITY COUNCILMAN HOWARD PEAK AND BONNIE CONNOR, WHOM YOU JUST HEARD FROM, AS WELL AS MAYOR NELSON WOLFE. FAST FORWARD TO RECENT MEETINGS OF THE SO-CALLED COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND SIGN CODE MEETINGS, SOME OF WHICH I ATTENDED. UM, THE NONS SIGNAGE INDUSTRY CITIZENS WERE NOT ALLOWED A VOTE. YOU JUST HEARD THAT AS WELL. AND I, IT, IT, TO ME IT LOOKED LIKE A TOTAL CHARADE. AND THEN THE SUBSEQUENT TWO PUBLIC MEETINGS ON THE GATEWAY CORRIDOR ONLY ATTRACTED NINE PEOPLE. THAT WOULD BE AN AVERAGE OF FOUR AND A HALF PEOPLE PER MEETING. AND THEN THERE'S THE ISSUE OF THE CITY STAFF ACCIDENTALLY ALLOWING THE INSTALLATION. OH, OKAY. I'M SORRY. YOUR TIME. I WAS GETTING TO THE GOOD, GOOD PART, BUT NEVERMIND. SORRY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND HAPPY FIESTA MR. MR. GOTTMAN. AND THEN, UH, FOLLOWED BY MS. MALDONADO. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS LARRY GOTTMAN. I'M THE PRESIDENT OF AETNA SIGN GROUP AND I'M HERE REPRESENTING SAN ANTONIO SIGN ASSOCIATION IN THE TEXAS SIGN ASSOCIATION. UH, SINCE 1994, I'VE EITHER CHAIRED OR BEEN ON EVERY COMMITTEE THAT HAS ADDRESSED SIGN, CO SIGN CODE ISSUES. UM, AND IN EVERY CASE, EXCEPT FOR 2015 STAKEHOLDERS, ALL STAKEHOLDERS INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS WERE INCLUDED. UH, JUST TO GET BACK TO SOME OF THE PHONE CALLS, UM, THERE, THEY ALL REFER TO BILLBOARDS. THESE ARE ON-PREMISE SIGNS. AND REGARDING MILITARY, ALL OF THE ELECTRONIC SIGNS THAT ARE MANUFACTURED BY OUR INDUSTRY, THE LIGHTING POINTS DOWN, NOT UP. UM, WHEN THE CODE WAS CHANGED, UM, AGAIN, IT WENT STRAIGHT TO ZONING SOMEHOW. I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT HAPPENED. AND THEN TO CITY COUNCIL WITHOUT ANY STAKEHOLDERS INVOLVED. AND I, I THINK THAT'S WRONG. I, I THINK THAT IF YOU'RE GONNA MAKE CHANGES, UH, TO AN INDUSTRY OR IMPACT IN INDUSTRY WITH A CHANGE, I THINK THEY SHOULD BE INCLUDED AND INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS. AND I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. AND THEN MS. MALDONADO, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. MY NAME IS BIANCA MALDONADO, RESIDE AT 4 57 CLUB DRIVE, AND I WAS ONE OF THE THREE INDIVIDUALS WHO REPRESENTED THE COMMUNITY ON THAT SIGN CODE COMMITTEE. AS WE EVALUATED CHANGES TO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE AND ON-PREMISE SIGNS, THEY ARE THE MOST CONTROVERSIAL SIGNS. THEY ARE THE ONES THAT THE CITY GETS THE VIOLATION CALLS FOR. THEY ARE THE ONES THAT ARE REPORTED. THE DIGITAL BILLBOARDS, NOBODY REPORTS THOSE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT MALFUNCTIONING, THEY'RE NOT TOO BRIGHT. SO I TOOK A SPECIAL INTEREST IN THE HILL COUNTRY CORRIDOR DURING THE TIME WHEN I SERVED ON THIS COMMITTEE FOR I BELIEVE, SEVEN OR EIGHT MONTHS. AND THERE WAS A ROBUST NUMBER OF MEETINGS. AND THANK YOU JEREMY FOR, UH, FACILITATING ALL OF THAT INFORMATION. I WAS NOT A VOTING MEMBER. UM, I HOPE THAT CAN CHANGE IN THE FUTURE. I THINK ANY PROCESS THAT MOVES FORWARD THROUGH THE CITY SHOULD BE BALANCED AND EVERYBODY'S VOICE SHOULD COUNT. UM, WITH THAT RESPECT, THERE WERE THREE OF US, FOUR OF US ACTUALLY. YOU RECEIVED A LETTER FROM PATTY ZIONS. YOU ALSO HEARD A VOICE COMMENT FROM COLLEEN WBA. AND I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THAT THE THREE OF US WERE, UM, SUPPORTIVE OF ALLOWING A NON-CONFORMING STATUS FOR THE SIGNS THAT WERE UNPERMITTED, UM, OR THEY WERE PERMITTED IN ERROR BY CITY STAFF. I WILL TELL YOU THAT ERRORS DO LIKE THIS DO OCCUR. THEY OCCURRED IN AN N C D IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE LEARN FROM THIS, BUT WE DIDN'T GET A ROBUST, UH, PRESENTA, A ROBUST TURNOUT OF INDIVIDUALS. THERE WERE OVER 700 NOTICES THAT WENT OUT. AND WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THE 10 PEOPLE, OR NINE OR 10 PEOPLE WHO CAME TO THOSE TWO PUBLIC MEETINGS, THEY WERE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE TXDOT IMPACT TO THEIR SIGNAGE, WHICH WASN'T THE A TOPIC OF AT HAND. THERE WAS ONE GROUP THAT DID COME OUT, ONE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, THE DOMINION, UH, THAT, UH, EXPRESSED CONCERNS ABOUT THESE [01:35:01] ON-PREMISE SIGNS. THIS IS OUR GATEWAY INTO OUR CITY. UM, IT BEGINS AT U T S A AND GOES ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE, UH, THE CITY LIMITS. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE PRESERVE THIS BECAUSE AS YOU GO OUT WEST AND YOU COME OUT EAST, THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT CORRIDOR TO THE CITY. AND SO I HOPE THAT YOU WILL ALLOW THE NON-CONFORMING SIGN, THOSE SIX SIGNS THAT, UH, WERE PERMITTED IRREGULARLY ERRONEOUSLY TO BECOME NON-CONFORMING AND TO MAINTAIN THE STANDARD AS IT EXISTS TODAY IN THE OVERLAY. THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERATION OF MY COMMENTS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. AND THAT WAS IT, PUBLIC COMMENT. THAT WAS FINISHED. YES, THAT WAS IT FOR SPEAKERS. ALRIGHT. IF, UH, CITY STAFF WOULD LIKE A CHANCE TO HAVE A REBUTTAL. THANK YOU CHAIR. OH, I DO WANNA SAY ON REGARDS TO THE MILITARY, ALL OF THE HILL COUNTRY GATEWAY CORRIDOR DOES FALL WITHIN THE M L O D FOR CAMP BULLIS. SO ALL OF THE SIGNAGE WOULD HAVE TO MEET THE M L O D SIGN REQUIREMENTS AND LIGHTING REQUIREMENTS. SO, UH, THAT IS ONE GOOD THING ABOUT, UH, THE OVERLAY CURRENTLY. UH, YES, I, AS BROUGHT UP, I I I FAILED TO MENTION I THAT THEY ARE NON-VOTING. I KINDA MENTIONED THAT WE TRIED TO TRACK THAT. I DIDN'T SAY CORRECT THAT OF THE, OF THE NON-VOTING. I WANNA SAY ONE WAS DID WAS NOT PRESENT WHEN WE VOTED ON THIS AT THE COMMITTEE, BUT THE THREE NON-VOTING DID VOTE AGAINST THAT. UH, IT WAS ONLY THE BOARD MEMBERS THAT, UH, VOTED FOR THAT. AND I THINK THAT, I THINK EVERYTHING ELSE WAS CHECKED OFF. AND ONCE AGAIN, I THINK, YOU KNOW, ONCE AGAIN, THE BILLBOARD, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN DISCUSSING THE BILLBOARDS, I UNDERSTAND 'CAUSE WE HAVE THE OTHER ITEM GOING FORWARD. SO I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF THIS NOMENCLATURE BETWEEN THE BILLBOARD ON PREMISE. UH, SO ONCE AGAIN, THESE ARE SPECIFICALLY ON PREMISE. IT WOULD BE AT A, YOU KNOW, CURRENT STRUCTURE PROVIDING THAT. SO IT WOULDN'T BE A NON DEVELOPED PIECE OF LAND WITH SIGN IN IT, UH, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING. THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT HAS A BUSINESS THERE. UH, PROVIDING THAT SERVICE BEFORE WE WOULD HAVE A SIGN. UH, SO THAT WOULD BE THE ON-PREMISE ONLY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. UM, THIS IS A U D C TYPE OF THING, SO IT'S NOT, IS IT, IT'S IT'S PRIMARILY IN YOUR DISTRICT. UH, COMMISSIONER ORTIZ, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE IT FOR QUESTIONS TO BEGIN? UM, I HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR OUR CITY STAFF, JUST 'CAUSE I HEARD SOME OF THE VOICEMAILS AND SEE IF I CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS THAT THEY HAD. 'CAUSE ARE WE, THE SIGNS OF DIGITAL SIGNS ARE GONNA TAKE PLACE, YOU'RE NOT TAKING, ARE YOU REPLACING THE OLD SIGNS, REPLACING THE DIGITAL SIGNS OR, SO WITH THIS BEING ON-PREMISE SIGNS, ANY PROPERTY HAS THE RIGHT TO INSTALL A SIGN PROVIDING ADVERTISING WHAT THEY SERVE THERE. SO THEY ALREADY MIGHT HAVE A SIGN SO THEY CAN CHANGE. THERE ARE NO LIMITATIONS OR NO REQUIREMENTS, UH, PROHIBITING THEM FROM ADDING NEW SIGNS, CHANGING SIGNS AS LONG AS THEY MEET THE CURRENT REQUIREMENTS FOR ON-PREMISE DIGITAL, UH, I'M SORRY, OFF-PREMISE SIGNS ARE EXISTING, THEY'RE NON-CONFORMING. THEY CAN'T MODIFY THEM. EVEN AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THE DIGITAL CONVERSION PROGRAM THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, WHICH IS A THREE YEAR TRIAL PROGRAM WITHIN CHAPTER 28 SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITS BOTH, UH, THE HILL COUNTRY GATEWAY CORRIDOR AND THE CORRIDOR GOING FROM THE AIRPORT TO DOWNTOWN. THAT MS UH, THAT WAS ALSO BROUGHT UP BY ONE OF THE SPEAKERS. SO WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT IS ANY BUSINESS THAT'S ALONG THE HILL COUNTRY, GATEWOOD CORRIDOR, IF THEY CURRENTLY HAVE A SIGN, THEY AS LONG AS THEY, IF THEY, IF IT'S BEFORE 23 OR 2003, THEY HAVE TO MEET ANY CHANGES THAT THEY MAY MAKE CHANGES TO IT. THEY HAVE TO MEET THE CURRENT STANDARDS AND OVER THE REQUIREMENTS. UM, OR THEY CAN ADD A NEW ONE SO THEY CAN MOVE IT. AND THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT RULES BEYOND JUST THE OVERLAY OF WHAT AN ON-PREMISE SIGN CAN DO, YOU KNOW, 200 FEET AWAY FROM A RESIDENCE AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO THERE ARE, THEY STILL HAVE TO MEET ALL OF THE OTHER CHAPTER 28 ON-PREMISE SIGN REQUIREMENTS. THEY JUST HAVE MORE RESTRICTIONS. AS WE KIND OF POINTED OUT. THEY CAN'T GO UP TO THE 60 FEET. THEY CAN ONLY BE AT 40 FEET. THEY CAN'T BE AT 650 SQUARE FEET, THEY CAN ONLY BE AT 300. AND CURRENTLY THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED DIGITAL. BUT IF THE DIGITAL BAND IS REMOVED, THEN THEIR MAXIMUM OF 75 SQUARE FEET FOR A DIGITAL SIGN, ONE MORE. SO BY LIFTING THIS BAND, IT PRETTY MUCH GIVES THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE OFF THAT CORRIDOR, THE ABILITY TO DO SO BY CHANGING THAT ARE ON, THAT ARE ON WITHIN THE CORRIDOR OR WITHIN THE OVERLAY. UH, ANY OF THEM COULD AT THAT POINT COME BACK AND, AND ASK FOR A DIGITAL SIGN AND THEN CHANGE AND THEN THE CITY COULD PRETTY MUCH ALLOW IT BY A A CHANGING THIS. CORRECT. EXACTLY. YEAH. OKAY. ANY PERMIT THAT COMES IN, AS LONG AS IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENT OF BOTH THE OVERLAY AND ALL THE OTHER, UH, LOCATION REQUIREMENTS ON THEIR PROPERTY, THAT COULD BE A MAXIMUM OF 75. UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSING TO THE EXPRESSWAY AND NOT TO THE ARTERIALS THAT IT KIND OF FALL WITHIN THAT AND HAVE TO BE A MULTI-TENANT. ANYTHING BEYOND THAT STARTS GOING SMALLER THAN 75 SQUARE FEET. OKAY. UH, I HAVE NO MORE FURTHER QUESTIONS. CHAIR. I'M GONNA HAND IT OVER TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONER STEVE, IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT, WELL LET'S BEGIN ON THE LEFT. COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. UM, WHAT WAS THE ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION? SO THE ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION IS THE PERMITS THAT WERE ISSUED IN ERROR AFTER THE 2015 CHANGE. AND I DO WANNA CLARIFY, I THINK BIANCA [01:40:01] BROUGHT THIS UP. YOU KNOW, THESE WERE NOT NON PERMITTED SIGNS. THESE WERE SIGNS THAT CAME THROUGH, WENT THROUGH THEIR PROCESS. THEY, THE OWNERS OF THOSE SIGNS THOUGHT THEY WERE DOING EVERYTHING RIGHT, PERMITTED BY US. UH, CONTRACTORS WERE REGISTERED WITH THE CITY INSTALLED THEM, IT WAS ON, IT WAS JUST ISSUED AN ERROR BY THE CITY AND WE WEREN'T MADE AWARE OF THAT UNTIL 2019. SO THERE'S A TOTAL OF SIX SIGNS FOR THEM WERE BRAND NEW. ONE OF 'EM WAS A SIGN THAT WAS ACTUALLY A DIGITAL SIGN PRIOR TO 2015. AND THEY JUST MADE IT A LITTLE BIT BIGGER, STILL SMALLER THAN THE 75 SQUARE FEET. AND THEN ANOTHER ONE THAT WAS, UM, REFACED. SO THEY KIND OF CHANGED IT UP A LITTLE BIT. UH, BUT SO TWO, TWO THAT ARE EXISTING FOR, THAT ARE NEW THAT, THAT ARE, WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE NON-CONFORMING USE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO REQUIRE THEM TO BE REMOVED, UH, BECAUSE THEY WERE ISSUED AN ERROR. BUT EACH OF THESE SIX WOULD BE WITHIN THE 75 SQUARE FOOT LIMIT. CORRECT. YEAH. THEY WOULD ALL MEET THE PRIOR 2015, THE ORIGINAL 2003, UH, ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS? UH, MR. MVAS, JUST A QUESTION. UH, JEREMY, UH, WHO ARE THE MEMBERS, UH, THAT SERVE ON THE COMMITTEE? DO YOU REMEMBER ALL THEIR NAMES? THE COMMITTEE? YEAH. UM, YEAH, SO WE HAD, WE HAD MARK, MARK ROSS, UH, WITH THE APARTMENT ASSOCIATION AND HIS ALTERNATE WAS MICHAEL RUST WITH THE APARTMENT ASSOCIATION. WE HAD JACK UP MOORE WITH GREATER SAN ANTONIO BUILDERS ASSOCIATION AND JOE LAOS WITH GREATER SAN ANTONIO BUILDERS ASSOCIATION. WE HAD LIDDELL TOY WITH THE SIGN SAN, UH, SAN ANTONIO SIGN ASSOCIATION AS WELL AS, UH, PETER LEY AS HIS ALTERNATE. AND THEN WE ALSO HAD, I'M SORRY, UH, ADRIAN CONTES WITH THE BUILDING OFFICE MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATION. AND THEN THOSE WERE THE APPOINTED MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. AND THE BOARD IS MADE UP OF A LOT OF TECHNICAL. SO THEY, WE OVERSEE THE CHAPTER 10, WHICH IS THE BUILDING, UH, BUILDING, UH, CODES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO, UH, THEY'RE NOT REALLY REGULATED BY DISTRICTS. IT'S ALL ABOUT PRINCIPALS. WE NEED ELECTRICAL ENGINEERS, STRUCTURAL ENGINEERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. UM, BUT THE NON APPOINTED MEMBERS WERE BIANCA LINDO. UM, I DON'T THINK SHE WAS SPECIFICALLY REPRESENTING, UH, ANY ORGANIZATION. UH, BUT, UM, AND THEN THE OTHER, THE, THE NON-MEMBER THAT YOU HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THE NON APPOINTED MEMBER WAS, UH, GREG MANN WITH THE REAL ESTATE COUNCIL. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, GREAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT. NONE. COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT? NONE. ALRIGHT. I HAD A QUESTION, UM, FIRST FOR, FOR YOU. AND THAT WAS ON, UM, I BELIEVE MS. MALDONADO BROUGHT UP THAT PRI THE, THE CITY PRIMARILY RECEIVES CALLS DEALING WITH ON-PREMISE SIGNS VERSUS BUILDINGS. CORRECT. SO DIGITAL SIGNS HAVE REQUIREMENT TO KEEP BRIGHTNESS DOWN. UH, YOU KNOW, SO WE, WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO DIFFERENT, UH, MEASUREMENTS THAT WE REQUIRE THEM TO MEET. THE PROCESS, UH, FOR ON-PREMISE SIGNS IS YOU SUBMIT A PERMIT APPLICATION, YOU WOULD LIKE TO INSTALL A ON-PREM SIGN. ONCE IT'S INSTALLED, WE, WE APPROVE THE PERMIT, WE KIND OF CHECK THE LOCATION, MAKE SURE IT MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS. THEN THEY GET THE PERMIT, THEY INSTALL THE SIGN BEFORE THEY CAN ACTIVATE IT. WE GO OUT AND WE TAKE MEASUREMENTS OF THAT SIGN MOSTLY AT NIGHT. 'CAUSE THAT'S USUALLY WHERE WE HAVE THE BIGGEST ISSUE. SO WE GO OUT AT NIGHTTIME AND MAKE SURE THAT THE BRIGHTNESS LEVELS MEET THE CURRENT REQUIREMENTS. ONCE THAT'S DONE, WE KIND OF SIGN OFF ON THEIR PERMIT AND THEY CAN USE THE SIGN WHENEVER THEY WANT THESE SIGNS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE VERY USER FRIENDLY AND THE, FOR THE END, END USER, THEY CAN CHANGE, MODIFY THINGS. UH, THE BRIGHTNESS SOMETIMES WILL GO UP. UH, WE DON'T HAVE A, CURRENTLY WE DO NOT HAVE A PROGRAM THAT GOES BACK AND RECHECKS ALL THESE SIGNS THROUGHOUT THE CITY THROUGH THE CHAPTER 28. WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT ADDING A, A PERMIT OR A, UH, PILOT PROGRAM THAT WOULD MAKE IT A, A PROACTIVE APPROACH. BUT CURRENTLY THE PROCESS IS IF SOMEBODY HAS A SIGN THAT'S GOTTEN TOO BRIGHT, CITIZENS WOULD NOTIF NOTIFY US IF THEY SEE THAT OR IF WE SEE IT, BUT OF COURSE USUALLY NOT OUT AT NIGHT. UM, THEN WE WOULD GO BACK OUT AND RECHECK IT. WE CHECK IT AGAINST THE TWO STANDARDS. IF THEY'RE OUTTA COMPLIANCE, WE LET 'EM KNOW THEY'RE REQUIRED TO BRING IT BACK WITHIN COMPLIANCE. TYPICALLY THEY DO THAT PRETTY QUICKLY. SOME OF 'EM CAN DO IT WITH THEIR PHONES, SOME, YOU KNOW, HAVE TO CALL THEIR OPERATORS, BUT THEY CAN GET IT WITHIN COMPLIANCE BY THE NEXT DAY AND WE'RE GOOD TO GO IF FOR SOME REASON THEY DON'T BRING IT BACK INTO COMPLIANCE, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO THROUGH THE LEGAL MEANS OF EITHER HAVING THEM COME INTO COMPLIANCE OR SHUTTING THE SIGN OFF. WE'VE NEVER HAD TO GO THAT FAR, BUT WE HAVE HAD A FEW, COUPLE OF BAD ACTORS. BUT WHAT MS. MANDO IS BRINGING UP IS THAT'S USUALLY WHERE WE HAVE THE BIGGEST CONCERNS. THE DIGITAL BILLBOARDS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. THEY DON'T WANT TO GET IN TROUBLE WITH US, DON'T WANT TO HAVE ANY ISSUES. THEY'RE REALLY REGULATING THEMSELVES TO KEEP THE BILLBOARDS FROM GETTING TOO BRIGHT. IT'S THE ON-PREMISE SCIENCE, JUST BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY OWNERS ACROSS THE BOARD THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S MORE OF A, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO POLICE A LOT MORE PEOPLE THAN JUST THE BILLBOARD. SO THAT IS TYPICALLY WHAT'S HAPPENING. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NONE. ALRIGHT. UM, COMMISSIONER ORTIZ, [01:45:01] DID YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION? THANK YOU. YES. UM, IT'S KIND OF TOUGH HERE, BUT I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND SUPPORT THIS MOTION FOR THE CITY AND, UM, I GUESS AMENDING, UH, THE U D C CHAPTER 30 FIVE'S CODE. THANK YOU. SECOND THAT. OKAY, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ. SECOND WAS THAT COMMISSIONER BARTOS? AND, OKAY. SO WE WILL OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION. UM, COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT DISCUSSION, COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE. SO IN THIS CASE, ALTHOUGH I HATE TO DISAGREE WITH THE DISTRICT EIGHT COMMISSIONER, I DO THINK A BETTER PRACTICE HERE WOULD BE TO ALLOW THE SIX NON-CONFORMING SIGNS TO GO FORWARD AND RESTRICT THESE DIGITAL ON-PREMISE BILLBOARDS. UH, OTHERWISE, UM, UNDERSTANDING THAT IT WAS GOOD FAITH ERROR ON THE PART OF BOTH THE APPLICANTS AND THE CITY. UM, I THINK THAT IS A BETTER SOLUTION THAN SIMPLY OPENING UP FOR 75 SQUARE FEET OF DIGITAL ON-PREMISE SIGNS, UH, THROUGHOUT THIS CORRIDOR. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. UM, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? UH, I'M, I'M GONNA SUPPORT THIS AND I CAN TELL YOU WE HAVE A GREAT DEPARTMENT THAT REGULATES ALL THE SIGNAGE. I WENT THROUGH THIS, IT TOOK ME TWO MONTHS TO GET A PERMIT, SO, AND APPROVAL, BUT WE GOT A GREAT DEPARTMENT THAT CONTROLS THIS VERY, VERY WELL, REGULATES THE CITY ORDINANCE VERY WELL. OKAY. UM, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER ON MY LEFT? NONE. COMMISSIONER ON MY RIGHT. COMMISSIONER FUENTES? UM, YEAH, I JUST WANT TO KIND OF, UH, VOICE MY AGREEANCE WITH COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. I REALLY THINK THAT A BETTER DECISION WOULD BE TO ALLOW THOSE SIX NON-CONFORMING. UM, BUT YEAH. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY. AND I WILL ALSO AGREE WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER BUSANTE ON THAT. UM, UH, I'M ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS, AND I BELIEVE IT WAS MS. TRENCH HART, I BELIEVE, OR IT MAY, IT MAY HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE VOICEMAILS. PERHAPS IT WAS ONE OF THE VOICEMAILS THAT SAID IT WAS, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA BEHIND THE OVERLAY WAS TO ELIMINATE VISUAL CLUTTER. UM, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE NOTICED IS THAT COMING FROM, ONCE YOU HIT 1604, ONCE YOU HIT, SAY DAYS OF OLIVE, YOU'RE COMING INTO TOWN, THE VISUAL AND CLUT, THE VISUAL CLUTTER INCREASES DRAMATICALLY. AND THERE ARE TIMES WHERE THERE ARE SOME OF THESE ON-PREMISE SIGNS THAT ARE EXTREMELY BRIGHT. UM, AND I DON'T BELIEVE ADDING ADDITIONAL SIGNS, UM, I HAVE NOT HEARD AN ADVANTAGE FOR WHY IT, IT, IT'S NECESSARY. UM, OBVIOUSLY WITH ALL THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE OUT IN THE RIM AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, THEY SEEM TO BE DOING VERY WELL WITH THE SIGNAGE THAT'S IN PLACE RIGHT NOW. UM, AND SO UNFORTUNATELY, COMMISSIONER ORTIZ, UM, I WON'T BE SUPPORTING YOUR CURRENT MOTION, BUT WITH THAT, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED OF ITEM NUMBER ONE, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER WATSON? NO. COMMISSIONER FUENTES? NO. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER? WE NO. COMMISSIONER NICKS? NO. COMMISSIONER LOGIA HOLLAND? NO. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? NO. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE? NO. CHAIR SIPES? NO. ITEM FAILS. ALRIGHT, SO IS THERE A MOTION FOR RECON RECONSIDERATION? I EITHER MOVE FOR RECONSIDERATION OR MOVE TO APPROVE THE SIX NON-CONFORMING ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION YOU CAN CHOOSE. ALRIGHT, WE'LL SPEED IT UP. UM, COMMISSIONER BUSSA MONTE HAS MOVED FOR, HOW, HOW HAS THAT, HOW WOULD WE WORD THAT? SO I, I AM NOT QUITE SURE, SO MAYBE COUNSEL CAN GIVE US SOME GUIDANCE HERE, BUT I THINK MOVING FOR APPROVAL OF THE ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION APPROVING THE SIX NON-CONFORMING SIGNS SHOULD BE SUFFICIENT. YES. IF YOU'RE SAYING THE ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION THAT WAS ON THE RECORD. YES. YES. I'M SAYING APPROVAL OF THE ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION AS STATED ON THE RECORD BY MR. MCDONALD DURING HIS PRESENTATION, WHICH INCLUDES THE SIX NON-CONFORMING SIGNS. I SO MOVE. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. ANY DISCUSSION? NONE. SEEING NONE. [01:50:01] SEEING NONE. ALL RIGHT. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE AYE. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER FUENTES. AYE. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER NICKS? YES. COMMISSIONER LU HOLLAND? YES. CHAIR SIPES? YES. ITEM PASSES. ALL RIGHT, GREAT. WE ARE MOVING. WAIT, IT'S THREE BECAUSE I HAVE TO RECUSE FROM THAT ONE ANYWAYS. OKAY. SO IF I'M, ALRIGHT, WE'RE GONNA TAKE A QUICK FIVE MINUTE BREAK. THE TIME IS THREE O'CLOCK. WE'LL BE BACK IN ABOUT FIVE MINUTES. ALRIGHT, ARE WE ABOUT, CAN WE TAKE OUR SEATS AND WE WILL BEGIN MOMENTARILY. AND WE ARE MOVING, WHICH, WHAT, WHAT ITEM IS YOURS? UH, ITEM NUMBER FOUR. WE'RE MOVING FOUR UP. . SORRY, COMMISSIONER, WE, OH MY GOD. . AND WE ARE MOVING ITEM FOUR UP. SO SORRY EVERYONE, UM, IF WE COULD HAVE STAFF'S PRESENTATION FOR ITEM FOUR ON WOODLAWN. SO CHAIR, WE, WE ALSO GOT, UM, COMMISSIONER BUSANTE IS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE FOR HIS ITEMS SINCE HE WON'T BE HERE. UM, IT'S ITEM NUMBER FIVE. ITEM FIVE. AND IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS REAL QUICK ON. YES, YES, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. ALRIGHT. DO WE NEED TO ACTUALLY, OH, I GUESS WE NEED TO GO THROUGH IT THOUGH, RIGHT? NO, UH, KELLY'S JUST GONNA READ THE CAPTION IN FOR YOU. WE'RE GONNA, UH, MENTION THE CONTINUANCE AND THEN WE'VE JUST GOTTA PLAY THE VOICEMAILS AND WE HAVE ONE PERSON IN THE AUDIENCE TO SPEAK. ALRIGHT. OKAY. FOR ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO I D Z ONE WITH USES PERMITTED UP TO 37 DWELLING UNITS, RECREATIONAL FACILITY, NEIGHBORHOOD, AND A CHURCH WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. LOCATED AT 39 15 FLAGAL STREET, 21 NOTICES WERE SENT. ZERO IN FAVOR, FOUR OPPOSED. MEMORIAL HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED OUTSIDE 200 FEET. UH, 14 RESPONSES WERE, UH, SUBMITTED IN OPPOSITION. AND WE DO HAVE, UM, A SPEAKER ALONG WITH VOICEMAILS IF WE COULD HAVE THE VOICEMAILS PLEASE. HI, MY NAME IS ALICE UNA AND I RECITE AT 3 2 7 ALSUP STREET CASE ENDING IN 0 1 3. I AM CALLING IN OPPOSITION OF THE ZONING TO BE CHANGED FROM R SIX TO THE UM, I D Z ONE. MY REASON FOR THIS IS TRAFFIC IS A BIG CONCERN. UM, SINCE THERE ARE 37 UNITS THAT ARE BEING BUILT AND, UH, ON FLAGGO, IT IS A SMALL STREET, I BELIEVE THAT THERE WILL BE TOO MUCH TRAFFIC IN AND OUT. AND, AND THAT'S A CONCERN SINCE THE SCHOOL IS THERE AND IS BEING THAT SIDE OF THE STREET IS BEING USED AS PICKUP FOR THE KIDS. THANK YOU. HELLO, MY NAME IS GLORIA SANCHEZ. I LIVE AT THREE 11 OUNCE UP. I AM CALLING ABOUT PROPOSITION ZONING CHARGES FOR IDZ ONE. I DO NOT AGREE. THE REASON I DO NOT AGREE IS BECAUSE OF EMERGENCY. IN CASE EMERGENCY DOES NEED TO GO THROUGH IT WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DUE TO THE BEING A SCHOOL ZONE. RIGHT THERE. MY TELEPHONE NUMBER IS (726) 218-2970. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, AGAIN, I DO NOT AGREE WITH ID Z ONE DUE TO THE FACT OF AN EMERGENCY SHOULD OCCUR, NOBODY WOULD BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH. THANK YOU. UH, YES, MY NAME IS RICHARD GARCIA. ADDRESS IS 1 6 6 TESLA DRIVE HERE IN THE CITY, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 2 8. CONTACT NUMBER IS AREA CODE 2 1 0 8 2 5 6 1 5 4. AND THIS IS CASE NUMBER, UH, 20 23 1 0 7 0 0 0 1 3. AND THE ADDRESS IS 39 15 FLAGGO STREET. AND I'M CALLING TO SAY THAT I'M ADAMANTLY NOT OPPOSED, BUT ADAMANTLY OPPOSED TO THIS, UH, WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING HERE. AND THERE'S SEVERAL REASONS. UH, BUT FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK, UH, [01:55:01] UH, ZONING COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE FOR TAKING TIME FROM HIS BUSY SCHEDULE TO MEET WITH US, THE CONSTITUENTS, THE RESIDENTS, THE CONCERNED CITIZENS ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON. AND HE HEARD OUR CONCERNS THAT HE WAS VERY FAIR IN GIVING EVERYONE AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE THEIR THOUGHTS. AND, AND THERE WAS ABOUT 15 OR 15 OR 20 PEOPLE THERE. AND BASICALLY MOST ALL OF THEM WERE OPPOSED TO IT. I COULD NOT SEE SOMEONE THAT WAS IN FAVOR OF IT, BUT ANYWAY, I'M OPPOSED FOR IT FOR SEVERAL REASONS. ONE IS THAT 37 HOMES IS TWO WAY 2 2 2 MANY HOMES IN THIS AREA. AND AGAIN, THE COMMON DENOMINATOR WHICH COMES UP, IT'S A TRAFFIC ISSUE. IT'S GONNA CAUSE MAJOR, MAJOR TRAFFIC CONGESTION ON FLAGGO STREET AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS. ANOTHER REASON THAT I'M OPPOSED TO IT IS ALSO BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT EFFECT IT'S GONNA HAVE. IT'S GONNA HAVE REGARDING PROPERTY TAXES. WE KNOW PROPERTY TAXES IS RIGHT NOW IT'S A MAJOR, MAJOR ISSUE. AND RIGHT NOW WE DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GONNA AFFECT THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY TAXES. AND I FEEL FOR THE RESIDENTS AROUND THE AREA ON THE GLORIA STREET, UH, UH, AROUND THAT AREA, SUP WE'RE GONNA BE AFFECTED BY THE PROPERTY TAX. NO ONE COULD REALLY GIVE US AN ANSWER TO THOSE QUESTIONS. WE REMAIN LY OPPOSED. ALSO, THIS, UH, LAND DEVELOPER IS STRONGLY APPEARS OR FROM WHAT WE KNOW, IS THAT HE HAS OTHER PROPERTIES ON WEIR STREET AND THEY'RE NOT VERY WELL MAINTAINED. UH, YES, MY NAME IS ROSIE GARCIA WITH MEMORIAL HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. I'M CALLING ON BEHALF OF THIS THE ZONING CASE. UM, MY ADDRESS IS 1 6 6 TESLA DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS. UM, THE CASE, UM, NUMBER LAST THREE NUMBERS ARE 0 1 3. UM, I AM OPPOSED, UM, TO THE ZONING. MY REASONS ARE ARE THE SAME. I JUST THINK IT'S GONNA BE TOO MUCH CONGESTION. IT'S GONNA CAUSE IT'S GONNA CAUSE A LOT OF, UM, UM, I DON'T KNOW, CHAOS IN A SENSE, OR I GUESS THE STREET IS JUST TOO SMALL AND, UM, IT, IT'S TOO MANY HOUSES THAT THEY'RE WANTING TO PUT THERE. I AM JUST TOTALLY AGAINST WHAT THEY'RE, WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO. I JUST WANTED TO VOICE MY OPINION FOR THAT. THANK YOU. BYE-BYE. HI, MY NAME IS STEPHANIE AIA AND I'M AT 3 2 6 ALSO. UM, I'M CALLING IN, UM, CONCERNING CASE ENDING 0 1 3 FOR 39 15 FLAGGO. I WANT THE, UM, COMMISSIONERS TO KNOW THAT I AM OPPOSED TO THE ZONING REQUEST CHANGE. I, UM, WANNA SHARE THAT FLAGGO STREET, THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOT DESIGNED FOR A HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT NOR THE INFLUX OF TRAFFIC AND CONGESTION THAT THIS IS GONNA CREATE TO THE ONE BLOCK OF THIS, OF THE STREET. I'M ALSO CONCERNED FOR THE PROXIMITY AND SAFETY BECAUSE THERE'S AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL JUST NEAR FEET AWAY. UM, THE DROP OFF AND PICKUP ENTRANCE POINT FOR THE SCHOOL IS GONNA BE VERY CLOSE TO THE PROPOSED INGRESS EGRESS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT. ALSO, IF YOU NOTE, UM, THE CURRENT NEIGHBORHOOD IS CURRENTLY AN AFFORDABLE NEIGHBORHOOD THAN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY AND PRICES FOR THE DWELLINGS WILL BE WELL ABOVE WHAT PEOPLE ARE, UM, WHAT PEOPLE ARE BUYING THE HOUSES AND SELLING THEM FOR TODAY IN THE AREA. BUILDING THE EXPENSIVE HOMES IN THE AREA IS NOT GONNA EXPAND THE AVAILABILITY OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IT'S ACTUALLY DECREASING THE AVAILABILITY ALONG WITH DRIVING UP THE, UM, THE APPRAISALS OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS. AND LASTLY, IT'S NOT IN CHARACTER. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS NOT IN CHARACTER WITH WHAT IS CURRENTLY DESIGNED, WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL WE HAVE. UM, IF WE COULD JUST HAVE ONE OF THE REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE CASE COME UP AND CONFIRM THEIR CONTINUANCE, PLEASE. MITSUKO RAMOS OR ANDREW. OKAY, THANK YOU. HI, FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS MITSUKO RAMOS WITH GOVERNMENT RELATIONS GROUP OF TEXAS. I REPRESENT THE PROPERTY OWNER, VERGE PRODUCTIONS, L L C. UM, THE, UH, MANAGING MEMBER IS RAFAEL MAREL AND WE ARE REQUESTING, UM, A CONTINUANCE ON BEHALF OF, UH, ZONING COMMISSIONER ANTE. I KNOW HE HAD TO LEAVE. UH, WE ALSO WANTED TO MAKE A CLARIFICATION ON THE SITE PLAN THAT THE, UH, RECREATION CENTER IS GONNA BE PART OF THE CHURCH. UM, SO, AND I THINK WE ALSO NEEDED TO ADD THE DIMENSIONS AND SO FORTH. SO WE'RE GONNA BE SUBMITTING A, A SLIGHTLY REVISED SITE PLAN JUST TO CLARIFY THAT. BUT, UM, I THINK THAT THE REQUEST WAS TO HAVE A CONTINUANCE FOR TWO WEEKS SO THAT WE CAN, UM, HAVE THE COMMISSIONER HERE. OKAY, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND YOU SAID WE HAD SOMEONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ONE? YES, WE DO HAVE, UM, MS. DIANA HERRERA TO SPEAK. YEAH. AND WE ALSO HAVE ANDREW TEJEDA, WHO IS A BLOCK WALKER FOR THE CASE AS WELL. OKAY, MS. HERRERA. [02:00:05] GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS DIANA HERRERA AND I AM A MEMBER OF THE MEMORIAL HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. I HAVE LIVED IN THE AREA FOR OVER 46 YEARS. UM, I AM OPPOSED TO THIS PLANNED, UM, AREA OF HOMES TO BE DEVELOPED. UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THIS AREA IS APPROXIMATELY THREE AND A HALF ACRES. AND, UM, IF YOU THINK OF IT IN THIS WAY, UH, A FOOTBALL FIELD, ABOUT TWO AND A HALF FOOTBALL FIELDS COULD FIT ON THERE. NOW IMAGINE SITTING AT THE TOP OF THE 50 YARD LINE AND LOOKING DOWN AT 37 HOMES, TWO STORY HOMES ALONG WITH STREETS, TWO CARS PER HOME, UM, THAT IS OVERCROWDING. WE DO NOT NEED OVERCROWDING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THESE HOMES IN THE AREA OR OLDER HOMES, THEY ARE FAMILY HOMES. I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO SINGLE FAMILY UNITS, BUT WHAT WAS DESIGNED FOR THIS AREA LOOKS LIKE APARTMENT DWELLING. THEY ARE NOT VERY COMPATIBLE TO THE HOMES IN THE AREA. IT WILL CAUSE CONGESTION AND TRAFFIC. UH, FLAGAL STREET IS A SMALL HOME AND IT ENDS AT THE SCHOOL. SO THERE IS NO IN AND OUT. THIS IS JUST ONE WAY IN 1 1 1 WAY OUT. IF YOU PUT IN MORE CONGESTION OF 37 HOMES, UH, THERE IS NO WAY IF THERE IS TO BE A REAL EMERGENCY, UM, DURING SCHOOL HOURS, FOR EXAMPLE, PICK UP TIME, THE EMERGENCY VEHICLES WOULD HAVE A VERY DIFFICULT TIME GETTING THROUGH THERE. WE RECENTLY DID HAVE AN INCIDENT, UM, THAT WAS AVERTED, BUT IT WAS DURING THE RUSH HOUR OF PICKING KIDS UP. AND WE WERE VERY LUCKY TO AVERT A VERY SERIOUS SITUATION. UM, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE QUALITY OF LIFE THAT THESE PEOPLE WOULD EXPERIENCE IN THESE HOMES WOULD BE THE BEST SITUATION. UM, PLEASE RECONSIDER THIS. OKAY, THANK YOU. AND THEN WE DO HAVE, UM, A MR. ANDREW TEJEDA SIGNED UP TO SPEAK AS WELL. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS ANDREW TEDA. I'M WITH THE TEJEDA CONSULTING. I WORK WITH COMMUNITY RELATIONS, UM, AND I WORK WITH THE CLIENT AS WELL. SO I WANNA EXPLAIN, UM, A FEW THINGS. SO I THINK A LOT OF THINGS ARE, ARE MISCONSTRUED ON, ON THAT END. SO THE REASON WE'RE ASKING FOR THIS IS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE SMALLER LIGHTS, SMALLER LOTS AT THE, AT THE CURRENT PRICE POINT THAT'S EXISTING THERE. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO IDENTIFY. ALSO, WHEN I BLOCK WALKED, I BELIEVE WITHIN THE 200, UH, FOOT, 200 SQUARE FOOT RADIUS, I GOT EIGHT SIGNATURES. EVERYONE I SPOKE TO WAS, WAS INCLINED AND VERY ADAMANT AND EXCITED FOR THIS. MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT I SPOKE TO WERE ELDERLY. AS I SAID, THIS IS AN OLDER NEIGHBORHOOD, SO NONE OF THEM HAD YOUNG CHILDREN THAT GO TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. SO, UM, THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO CLARIFY. LIKE THIS IS NOT A HUGE INJECTION, UH, INJECTION OF, OF CHILDREN. IT WOULD BE 37 HOMES, SMALLER HOMES, PRICE POINT THAT IS CURRENTLY THE PRICE POINT THAT'S EXISTING. UM, ALSO TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THAT THEY'RE GONNA LOOK AND FIT INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL. UM, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. OKAY. SO SINCE, UM, COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE HAD TO LEAVE, UM, COMMISSIONER LAG HOLLAND, DID YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE? YES, I DO. MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE. CONTINUANCE, BUT I NEED, UM, FEEDBACK ON WHICH DATE. MAY 2ND. MOTION TO CONTINUE TO, MAY 2ND PLEASE. SECOND. IS THERE A SECOND? COMMISSIONER FUENTES. ALRIGHT, UH, MOTION IS FOR A CONTINUANCE TO MAY 2ND BY COMMISSIONER HOLLAND, SECOND LEG, HOLLAND. SORRY. UH, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES DISCUSSION, LOOKING LEFT. LOOKING RIGHT. ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER LAG HOLLAND? YES. COMMISSIONER FUENTES. AYE. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER NICKS? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. CHAIR SIPES? YES. ITEM PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE. ALRIGHT, IF WE CAN MOVE TO ITEM FOUR PLEASE. I, GOOD AFTERNOON. [02:05:01] MY NAME IS CAMERON BLACKMAN, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS LOCATED AT ONE 17 WEST WOODLAWN AVENUE. GOING FROM R FOUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY TO R FOUR CD RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS STAYING THE SAME. THERE WERE 25 NOTICES SENT OUT. TWO IN FAVOR. TWO OPPOSED OUTSIDE. 200 FEET. THERE ARE TWO OPPOSED AND ONE IN FAVOR. THE MONTE VISTA HISTORICAL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED. THE EXISTING R FOUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. THE REQUESTED R FOUR CD RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS IS ALSO APPROPRIATE. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS A NEIGHBORHOOD WITH VARYING RESIDENTIAL DENSITIES AND COMMERCIAL USES. THE PROPOSED DENSITY AND CONFIGURATION WOULD MAIN, WOULD MAINTAIN THE ESTABLISHED CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. ADDITIONALLY, THE PROPOSED USE WILL ALSO PROVIDE AN ALTERNATIVE HOUSING TYPE TO THE AREA AND ALIGNS WITH THE GOALS OF THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THIS ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA. SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE ZONED R FOUR RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE FAMILY MF 33, MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICT, AND C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT STAFF RECORDS APPROVAL. AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE. GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN. AND THE REST OF THE ZONING COMMISSIONERS. UH, THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN. THIS IS MY THIRD TIME TO COME PRESENT, SO I'M HOPING THIRD TIME MIGHT BE A CHARM, SO TO SPEAK. SO JUST TO RECAP FOR A FEW OF THE COMMISSIONERS THAT WEREN'T HERE, PERHAPS WELL FOR SURE AT THE WEREN'T HERE AT THE MEETING TWO WEEKS AGO AND PERHAPS EVEN THE MEETING THAT I WAS AT BACK IN, UM, LATE FEBRUARY AGAIN, UM, AS MY CASE MANAGER CAMERON JUST MENTIONED GOING, UM, THE GOAL IS TO GO FROM OUR FOUR SINGLE FAMILY TO OUR FOUR SINGLE FAMILY WITH THAT CONDITIONAL, UM, CONDITIONAL FOR TWO UNITS. AND BY THAT TO BE MORE SPECIFIC, THAT'S TO ALLOW THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT THAT IS ABOVE MY, OUR, UH, DETACHED GARAGE SO THAT THE TENANT THAT WE'VE HAD IN THERE FOR SEVEN YEARS CAN REMAIN THERE. AND AGAIN, SHE'S A TEACHER THAT TEACHES JUST A BLOCK AND A HALF AWAY AT KEYSTONE ACADEMY. AND SO, UM, THIS HAS BEEN A, UM, ADVANTAGEOUS FOR HER ECONOMICALLY AND PROXIMITY WISE TO, TO WHERE SHE IS. IT DOES MEET THE GOALS THAT THE CITY HAS FOR, UM, SOME OF THAT USE OF ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS AND AFFORDABILITY, AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND THEN AS FAR AS, UM, THE GOALS FOR MYSELF AND MY HUSBAND, UM, THAT ARE CURRENTLY LIVING IN GREENVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA, WE DEFINITELY ARE COMING BACK TO SAN ANTONIO. WE DEFINITELY ARE COMING BACK TO OUR HOME THAT I HAVE HAD, UH, FOR 20, ALMOST 23 YEARS, 22 YEARS PLUS. AND SO OUR GOAL IS TO AGE IN PLACE AT OUR HOME THERE AT ONE 17 WEST WOODLAWN. UM, AS FAR AS, UH, I KNOW THERE'S THE MONTE VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, HISTORIC ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS OUR A K A, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THAT IS OPPOSING IT. UM, IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING BACK WHEN I, UM, BEGAN THE APPLICATION PROCESS. SO JUST PRE-APPLICATION PROCESS, UM, VIA EMAILS THAT THERE WAS NOT AN OPPOSITION. BUT I KNOW THAT THINGS CAN CHANGE WHEN IT COMES TO ONCE AN APPLICATION ACTUALLY GOES THROUGH THE PROCESS AND IT'S READY TO BE PRESENT PRESENTED HERE AT THE COMMISSION. AT YOUR COMMISSION. AND THAT BEING SAID, UM, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ANY THE, THE LOOK OF OUR HOME AND THE GARAGE DETACHED GARAGE AND ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT TO THE CASUAL PERSON WALKING DOWN THE BLOCK, PERHAPS, UM, THEY'RE NOT GONNA SEE ANYTHING DIFFERENT. WE HAVE HAD FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS, UH, IN THE MAIN HOUSE, WE HAVE HAD, WE HAVE USED THAT, UH, FOR SHORT TERM RENTAL. IT IS REGISTERED WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, UH, PERMITTED AND YOU, AND WE'VE NOT HAD ANY VIOLATIONS IN TERMS OF ANYTHING THAT ANY GUESTS HAVE DONE. AS I MENTIONED LAST WEEK, WE HAVE, I HAVE A UH, MANAGER THAT LIVES JUST A BLOCK AND A HALF AWAY AND HE GREETS EVERY GUEST AND, UH, GOES THROUGH OUR HOME AND MAKES SURE THEY UNDERSTAND ALL THE RULES, HOW TO USE EVERYTHING THAT WE OFFER, AND, UM, AND THEN EVEN, UM, HEARS FROM THEM BEFORE THEY CHECK OUT. OKAY. I DON'T HAVEN'T HAD ANY NEIGHBORS, UM, TO CALL ME AND SAY THAT THERE'S BEEN A PROBLEM, OR MY TENANT WHO LIVES RIGHT THERE ON PROPERTY ACTUALLY IS THE CLOSEST NEIGHBOR TO THAT. UM, AGAIN, THAT'S JUST TO MEET OUR GOALS AS FAR AS, UM, WE DID NOT WANNA HAVE TO SELL OUR HOME AND MOVE AND NOT BE ABLE TO GET A [02:10:01] HOME BACK IN MONTE VISTA THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE LOVE. AND, UM, WE'RE NOT AN L L C, WE'RE NOT A LARGE, UH, ENTITY OR EVEN A MEDIUM SIZED ENTITY. IT'S JUST MYSELF AND MY HUSBAND HOPING TO BE ABLE TO, UM, FIND A WAY TO NOT BE VIOLATING ANY ORDINANCE OR ANYTHING ELSE, UM, RULES OF THE CITY, UM, WHILE WE, UM, ARE MANAGING OUR LIVES TODAY AND DEFINITELY COMING BACK, UM, TO AGE IN PLACE THERE. SO, UM, I KNOW I'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH MANY OF THE DETAILS DURING THE PREVIOUS TWO TIMES THAT I'VE COME AND PRESENTED TO YOU, SO I DIDN'T WANNA BORE ANYBODY. AND, UH, I THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION OF WHAT I'M ASKING FOR. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. WE CAN START THE VOICEMAILS FOR YOU IF YOU'D LIKE. SORRY, WHAT WAS, WE CAN START THE VOICEMAILS FOR YOU IF YOU'D LIKE. YES, PLEASE. UM, BEFORE YOU GOOD MORNING. THIS, UM, THERE IS ONE THAT WAS MR. RAY MORALES. UM, YOU HAD LEFT A VOICEMAIL. DO YOU WANT THE VOICEMAIL TO BE PLAYED OR DO YOU WANNA SPEAK FOR YOUR TWO MINUTES HERE? WELL, I LIKE THE VOICEMAIL. OKAY. JUST SO YOU KNOW, YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO DO BOTH, SO JUST WANTED TO ASK BEFORE I WAS PLANNING TO, UH, YOU HAVE TIME TO GO? YOU CAN'T DO BOTH. YOU. IF YOU WANT US TO PLAY YOUR VOICEMAIL, YOU CAN PLAY YOUR VOICEMAIL OR YOU CAN YIELD YOUR TIME TOO. OKAY. THANK YOU. THIS IS BARBARA STEVENS. I LIVE AT TWO 11 WEST SUMMIT AVENUE IN MONTE VISTA, HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD. I AM CALLING ABOUT ITEM NUMBER FOUR ON THE AGENDA AT 1 1 7 WEST WOODLAWN AVENUE. I ALSO AM A MEMBER OF THE MONTE VISTA HISTORIC ASSOCIATION'S ARCHITECTURAL REBUKE COMMITTEE. I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS APPLICATION FOR REZONING AND REQUEST THE ZONING COMMISSION TO DENY THE APPLICATION ZONING FOR MONTE VISTA. PROPERTIES MUST STAY AS IS TO PRESERVE THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. MONTE VISTA IS A HISTORIC JEWEL FOR SAN ANTONIO AND TEXAS. PLEASE DENY THIS APPLICATION. THANK YOU, CECILIA RO 3 4 2 WEST WOODLAWN AVENUE. I REQUEST THE APPLICATION BE DENIED REGARDING ITEM NUMBER FOUR REGARDING 1 1 7 WEST WOODLAWN AVENUE. MY NUMBER IS 2 1 0 4 5 2 9 2 0 9. AGAIN, I REQUEST THE APPLICATION BE DENIED REGARDING ITEM NUMBER FOUR REGARDING 1 1 7 WEST WOODLAWN AVENUE, WHICH IS GOING TO BE HEARD ON APRIL THE 18TH. SO I REQUEST THAT THIS APPLICATION BE DENIED. CECILIA O AT 3 4 2 WEST WOODLAWN AVENUE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 1 2 2 1 0 4 5 2 9 3 0 9. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HI THERE. MY NAME IS COLLEEN CASEY AND I LIVE IN MONTE VISTA AT 1 1 6 BUSHNELL AVENUE WHERE MY ZIP CODE IS SEVEN EIGHT TWO ONE TWO. MY TELEPHONE NUMBER IS (210) 287-1027. AND I'M CALLING TO LEAVE THIS MESSAGE, UH, ABOUT THE CASE THAT I BELIEVE YOU'LL BE HEARING THIS TUESDAY, TOMORROW FOR 1 1 7 WEST WOODLAWN AVENUE FOR A REZONING UH, APPLICATION. I HOPE THAT THE ZONING COMMISSION VOTES AGAINST THIS REZO REZONING. WE DO NOT NEED TO ESTABLISH YET ANOTHER PRECEDENT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, GOING AGAINST WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE. WE, UH, UM, UM, IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, A, A HIGH QUALITY AND KEEP THE UH, ZONING CODES THAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE. THE, UM, RESIDENTS IN QUESTION AT 1 1 7 WEST WOODLAWN. I HOPE ZONING WILL VOTE TO DENY THEIR APPLICATION FOR REZONING. UH, PLEASE CALL ME IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AND, UM, THANK YOU FOR PROTECTING OUR HISTORIC DISTRICT. WE LOVE LIVING HERE AND WE NEED TO, [02:15:02] UH, PROTECT BLOCK BY BLOCK THE, UM, UM, QUALITY AND UH, COMPOSITION OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE MUST BE VIGILANT. THANK YOU. HELLO COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS DAVID THOMAS. I LIVE AT 1 0 8 WEST HOLLYWOOD IN THE MONTE VISTA HISTORIC DISTRICT. I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO ZONING CASE Z 2020 2 1 0 7 0 0 3 5 3 CD. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT ONE 17 WEST WOODLAWN AVENUE. I AM OPPOSING THIS APPLICATION AND I REQUEST THAT THE ZONING COMMISSION DENY THE APPLICATION. MY OPPOSITION IS BASED OFF THE FACT THAT THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY NOT OWNER OR OCCUPIED. AND IF THIS PROPERTY IS REZONED, THE NEW ZONING WOULD ALLOW TWO DWELLING UNITS ON ONE LOT. I BELIEVE THAT THE CURRENT R FOUR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS PROPERTY. I BELIEVE THAT THE REQUEST FOR ZONING CHANGE TO R FOUR CONDITIONAL USE SHOULD BE DENIED. THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERATION OF MY OPINION AND THAT OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION TO MONTE VISTA HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION. THANK YOU DAVID THOMAS. THIS IS FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER, ITEM NUMBER FOUR, CASE, UH, ZONING CASE Z 2 MILLION 22 1 0 7 0 0 3 5 3 CD FOR THE ADDRESS LOCATED AT 1 1 7 WEST WOODLAWN AVENUE. MY NAME IS DREA GARZA. PHONE NUMBER IS TWO TEN SIX FOUR THREE FOUR SEVEN SIX ZERO PO BOX 1 0 0 3 1 5. UH, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 0 1. I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE MONTICELLO PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION LOCATED IN DISTRICT SEVEN. THE MONTICELLO PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION SUPPORTS THE MONTE VISTA HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION'S OPPOSITION FOR THIS CASE LOCATED AT 1 1 7 WEST WOODLAWN AVENUE. WE SUPPORT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO'S U D C FOR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS TO PROMOTE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AGE IN PLACE AND TO BUILD GENERATIONAL WEALTH WITHIN A FAMILY THROUGH OWNER OCCUPATION. OUR POSITION IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, GOAL NUMBER THREE OF SUPPORTING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WITH ADUS. WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR DENIAL OF THIS APPLICATION BEFORE THE COMMISSION TODAY. THANK YOU FOR RECEIVING HER COMMENTS. BYE-BYE. HI, THIS IS REGARDING ITEM AGENDA NUMBER FOUR, ZONING CASE Z 2 0 2 2 1 0 7 0 0 3 5 3 CD LOCATED AT 1 1 7 WEST WOODLAWN AVENUE. THIS IS JES PRESIDENT OF WOODLAWN LAKE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS LOCATED IN DISTRICT SEVEN AND ONE. MAY BE, MAY BE REACHED AT 2 1 0 8 8 5 7 1 4 6. LOCATED AT PO BOX 2 8 3 7 4 SANTANA, TEXAS 7 8 2 2 8. THE WOODLAWN LAKE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION SUPPORTS THE MONTE VISTA HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION'S OPPOSITION FOR THIS CASE LOCATED AT 1 1 7 WEST WOODLAWN AVENUE. WE SUPPORT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO'S U D C FOR ACCESSORY JORDAN UNITS A D TO PROMOTE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AGE IN PLACE AND TO BUILD GENERATIONAL WEALTH WITHIN THE FAMILY THROUGH OWNER OCCUPANCY. PLEASE VOTE TO DENY THIS APPLICATION. THANK YOU FOR RECEIVING OUR COMMENTS. GOOD MORNING. UH, MY NAME IS JOHN MCCUSKER. I LIVE AT ONE ONE NINE WEST ATCH AVENUE. MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 828-1850. I AM CALLING ABOUT ITEM NUMBER FOUR ON THE AGENDA TODAY. THE PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 1 1 7 WEST WOODLAWN AVENUE. I AM OPPOSED TO THE ZONING OF THIS PROPERTY. UH, THE 100 BLOCK OF WEST WOODLAWN IS ALREADY QUITE DIVERSE IN ITS ZONING. THERE IS NO NEED TO REZONE THE PROPERTY. IT DOES NOT NEED TO BE REZONED. THE ZONING OF THIS PROPERTY IS CORRECT AS IT STANDS JUST BECAUSE THE OWNERS LIVE OUT OF TOWN AND WANT TO BE REZONED TO FIT THEIR CURRENT SITUATION. THERE'S NO REASON TO REZONE THE PROPERTY. A ZONING CHANGE WILL BE A PERMANENT CHANGE EVEN WHEN THIS PROPERTY IS SOLD. MONTE VISTA HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED TO THE REZONING AND I AS A 25 YEAR RESIDENT OF MONTE VISTA AM OPPOSED TO THE REZONING. THANK YOU. [02:20:05] HI, MY NAME IS JOSEPH REESE, MY WIFE SHERRY AND I OWN 2 43 EAST ROSEWOOD AVENUE IN MONTE VISTA. MY PHONE NUMBER IS (512) 431-4655. I'M CALLING REGARDING THE REZONING REQUEST FOR ONE 17 WEST WOODLAWN, WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER FOUR IN YOUR AGENDA. WE BELIEVE THAT THIS REQUEST IS NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF RESIDENTS OF MONTE VISTA AND RE RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU DENY THE REQUEST FOR REZONING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HELLO, MY NAME IS JUDITH WARREN. MY ADDRESS IS 2 1 8 WEST LAURELWOOD AVENUE IN SAN ANTONIO, 7 8 2 1 2. I'M CALLING ABOUT ITEM NUMBER FOUR ON THE AGENDA AND THE ADDRESS, 1 1 7 WESTWOOD LAWNWOOD, 1 1 7 WEST LAWNWOOD AVENUE. THIS IS A REQUEST FOR REZONING AND I'M CALLING TO REQUEST THAT YOU DENY THAT FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS. UM, THIS IS A, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR, UM, AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT THAT IS A LONG-TERM RENTAL AND THE OWNERS ARE RESIDING OUT OF STAGE. THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE BECAUSE THE CODE REQUIRES THAT THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE IS OWNER OCCUPIED. IN ORDER FOR US TO HAVE, UH, AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT FOR OCCUPATION, WE NEED TO HAVE AN OWNER ON THE PROPERTY IF WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS. SO IN THIS CASE, THE OWNER HAS TRIED TO, UH, HAVE THIS REZONED AND THAT IS INAPPROPRIATE AND IT IS BYPASSING THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT CODE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND WE HOPE THAT YOU VOTE AGAINST THIS REZONING REQUEST. HI, MY NAME IS JUDY BARNES. I LIVE AT 1 44 EAST GRAMERCY AND I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO THE CASE NUMBER 0 3 5 3 FOR THE ZONING CHANGE AT ONE 17 WEST WOODLAWN. UM, I'M CALLING TO OPPOSE THAT ZONING CHANGE FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS, MAINLY THE SIZE OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING AND JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, UM, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE DETAILS ABOUT THE, ABOUT THE BUILD ITSELF. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, ONCE AGAIN, MY NAME IS JUDY BARNES, I'M CALLING TO OPPOSE THIS AND MY NUMBER'S 2 1 0 2 7 3 7 7 9 2. THANK YOU. HI, UH, I'M CALLING ABOUT CASE LAST FOUR DIGITS ARE 0 3 5 3. MY NAME IS KRISTEN KELLUM. I LIVE AT, UH, ONE 16 WEST WOODLAWN AVENUE, WHICH IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. UM, I'M CALLING, UM, TO EXPRESS MY OPPOSITION TO THE REZONING REQUEST AT ONE 17 WEST WOODLAWN. UM, AS A MEMBER OF THE MONTE VISTA HISTORIC ASSOCIATION BOARD AND A MEMBER OF THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE, UH, I FEEL THAT THE CITY SHOULD BE ABLE TO CORRECT THE MISTAKE THEY MADE WHEN THEY GRANTED THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL PERMIT IN THE FIRST PLACE. YOU KNOW, KNOWING THAT THE OWNER DID NOT RESIDE ON THE PROPERTY AND THE ACCESSORY DWELLING IN THE BACK WAS ALREADY RENTED OUT, BUT THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE PROVIDED THAT SHORT-TERM RENTAL PERMIT TO THE OWNER AND THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A TEMPORARY REMEDY TO THE OWNER AND NOT A PERMANENT ZONING CHANGE, WHICH WILL NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD IN, YOU KNOW, INTO PERPETUITY. SO, UH, I WAS HOPING THAT THEY COULD DO SOMETHING TEMPORARY RATHER THAN CHANGE ZONING. AND, AND JUST ON A PERSONAL NOTE, AS A RESIDENT DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET, IT, IT IS NOT IDEAL TO HAVE A SHORT-TERM RENTAL AND, AND A LONG-TERM TENANT ON SUCH A SMALL PROPERTY. ANYWAY, UM, I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. HELLO, MY NAME IS LETICIA SANCHEZ AND I LIVE AT 1710 VERA CRUZ. SEVEN ZIP CODE SEVEN EIGHT TWO SEVEN AND PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 363-5895. I'M CALLING ON BEHALF OF THE HISTORIC WEST SIDE RESIDENCE ASSOCIATION AND TIER ONE AND C REGARDING AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR FOR THE PROPERTY AT ONE 17 WEST WOODLAWN AVENUE. OUR ASSOCIATION OPPOSES THIS ZONING REQUEST FOR R FOUR DASH CD WITH TWO DWELLINGS. CURRENTLY THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE IS A TYPE TWO SHORT-TERM [02:25:01] RENTAL, AND THE A D U IS A LONG-TERM RENTAL. ADU CODE REQUIRES THAT EITHER THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE OR THE A D U BE OWNER OCCUPIED. HOWEVER, THIS IS NOT THE CASE AT THIS PROPERTY. WE DISAGREE WITH THE STAFF'S OPINION THAT THE PROPOSED USE ALIGNS WITH THE GOALS OF THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, AS IT DOES NOT GUARANTEE THAT THE ADDITIONAL DWELLINGS WILL BE USED AS INTENDED IN THE SHIP. WE ASK THAT YOU VOTE TO OPPOSE THIS ZONING REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE TO DWELLINGS BECAUSE THIS WILL SET A PRECEDENT FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL NEGATIVELY IMPACT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND IT WILL NOT HELP TO ALLEVIATE THE HOUSING SHORTAGE THAT EXISTS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS LYNN A BOYD II AND I AM A MONTE VISTA RESIDENT WHO RESIDES AT 1 4 3 EAST AGARITA, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS SEVEN EIGHT TWO ONE TWO. MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 863-5758. I CURRENTLY SERVE AS PRESIDENT OF THE MONTE VISTA HISTORIC ASSOCIATION. I AM CALLING TO IMPOSE THE REQUEST OF ITEM FOUR ON THE AGENDA, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS ONE 17 WEST WOODLAWN AVENUE TO BE REZONED TO AN R FOUR CD. THE CURRENT ZONING OF R FOUR, WHICH APPLIES TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, WAS REACHED DURING THE 2019 AND 2020 EFFORTS TO UNIFY ZONING ACROSS OUR CITY AND SPECIFICALLY OUR HISTORIC DISTRICT. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HAS ENJOYED THE BENEFITS OF AN A D U FOR MANY YEARS AND WAS IN COMPLIANCE UNTIL JANUARY OF 2023. THE ZONING REGULATIONS PERTAINING TO ADUS STATE THAT ONE OF THE STRUCTURES MUST BE OWNER OCCUPIED. THIS IS NO LONGER THE SITUATION REGARDING THIS PROPERTY. AS THE CURRENT OWNER HAS MOVED OUT OF STATE, A CONDITIONAL USE IN MY OPINION, SHOULD APPLY TO THE PROPERTY AND THE CURRENT OWNER AND THEIR UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES. REZONING OF THIS PROPERTY WOULD APPLY TO THE PROPERTY IN PERPETUITY AND I THEREFORE MUST OPPOSE A NEIGHBORHOOD MUST HAVE SENSIBLE GUIDELINES IN PLACE TO MAINTAIN THE INTEGRITY AND FABRIC FOR FUTURE IN HAPPINESS TO ENJOY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THIS IS MARGARET LEEDS. I LIVE AT 3 0 8 KING WILLIAM AND I AM CALLING IN OPPOSITION TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4 4 1 1 7 WEST WOODLAWN. I OPPOSE THAT AS A MEMBER OF THE KING WILLIAM ASSOCIATION AND AS A MEMBER OF THE TIER ONE NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION STEERING COMMITTEE. PLEASE STOP THIS REQUEST. THANK YOU. UH, MY NAME IS PAUL KINISON. I LIVE AT FOUR 18 WEST FRENCH PLACE IN THE MONTE VISTA HISTORICAL DISTRICT. I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO ZONING CASE Z 2 0 2 5 C D. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT ONE 17 WEST WOODLAWN AVENUE. I'M OPPOSED TO THE A TO THIS APPLICATION AND REQUEST THE ZONING COMMISSION DENY THE APPLICATION. MY OPPOSITION IS BASED ON THE FACT THAT THE PROPERTY IS NOT OWNER OCCUPIED AND IF THIS PROPERTY IS REZONED, THE NEW ZONING WOULD ALLOW TWO DWELLING UNITS ON ONE LOT. I BELIEVE THAT THE CURRENT R FOUR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS PROPERTY AND THE REQUEST FOR A ZONING CHANGE TO R FOUR CONDITIONAL USE SHOULD BE DENIED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF MY OPINION AND RECOMMENDATION. HELLO, UH, MY NAME IS PETER HUGO. I LIVE AT 2 1 8 WEST LOWELL WOOD AVENUE IN SAN ANTONIO. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS ITEM NUMBER FOUR FOR TUESDAY'S MEETING, UH, WHICH IS, UH, THE ADDRESS OF WHICH IS 1 1 7 WEST WOODLAWN AVENUE. UM, I WISH TO SORT OF SPEAK IN OPPOSITION, UH, TO THE PROPOSED REZONING. UM, SINCE IT DOES NOT MEET IN ANY CASE AS FAR AS I CAN SEE, THE, UH, LONG-TERM PLAN OF THE CITY, UM, A A CITY CODE REQUIRES THAT EITHER THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE OR THE A D U BE OWNER OCCUPIED. UH, AND THAT IS NOT THE CASE. UM, THERE'S BEEN CONSIDERABLE DISCUSSION IN THE MONTE VISTA HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION ABOUT [02:30:01] THIS. UH, I'M A BOARD MEMBER ON THAT ASSOCIATION. UH, AND, UH, WE ARE UNANIMOUS IN SAYING THAT WE THINK THIS IS A VERY POOR IDEA. UM, THAT'S ALL I NEED TO SAY. THANK YOU. THIS IS RANDY RO O S H E R O W. MY HOME ADDRESS IS 4 2 2 EAST ROSEWOOD IN MONTE VISTA AND MY OFFICE ADDRESS IS 3 4 2 WEST WOODLAWN, ALSO LOCATED DOWN THE STREET FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ZONING CASE FOR 1 1 7 WEST WOODLAWN AVENUE, ITEM NUMBER FOUR. THIS IS FOR ON THE DOCKET FOR APRIL 18TH, 2023 AT, UH, THE ZONING COMMISSION. THIS, UH, MY POSITION ON, ON THE, UH, REQUEST FOR REZONING OF THE, UH, PROPERTY AT 1 1 7 WEST WOODLAWN IS THAT I OPPOSE THE ZONING REQUEST. I OPPOSE THE REZONING REQUEST REQUEST BECAUSE, UH, OUR NEIGHBOR DOES NOT NEED ANY ADDITIONAL, UM, UH, DWELLINGS. I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE DENSE ENOUGH AS IT IS. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, MY PHONE NUMBER IS TWO ONE OH SEVEN THREE EIGHT THREE ZERO ZERO ONE TWO ONE OH SEVEN THREE EIGHT THREE ZERO ZERO ONE. MY EXTENSION IS TWO ONE TWO. THAT'S MY OFFICE PHONE NUMBER AND I'M GENERALLY HERE BETWEEN THE HOURS OF EIGHT AND FIVE. THANKS. BYE. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS RICK WILSON. I LIVE AT ONE 10 WEST ELSMERE PLACE IN THE MONTE VISTA HISTORIC DISTRICT. I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO ZONING KZ 2 2 2 107 3 5 3 CD SUBJECT PROPERTIES LOCATED AT ONE 17 WEST WOODLAWN AVENUE. I'M CALLING TO, UH, STATE THAT I AM OPPOSED TO THIS APPLICATION AND I REQUEST THAT THE ZONING COMMISSION DENY THE APPLICATION. MY CONCERNS AND MY OPPOSITION ARE REALLY BASED ON THE FACT THAT THIS IS A NON-OWNER OCCUPIED PROPERTY. UH, AND IF IT'S REZONED, UM, IT'S GONNA ALLOW TWO RENTAL UNITS ON ONE LOT. UH, AND I BELIEVE THAT THE MONTE VISTA HISTORIC DISTRICT IS BEST SERVED BY I FOUR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING, WHICH IS MOST APPROPRIATE FOR THIS PARTICULAR LOT AND, AND PROPERTY. I BELIEVE THAT THIS REQUEST FOR ZONING CHANGE TO R FOUR CONDITIONAL USE SHOULD BE DENIED AS IT IS NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT TO HAVE A PROLIFERATION OF NON-OWNER OCCUPIED INVESTOR BASED RENTAL UNITS. AND WOULD, UH, ASK THAT THE, UH, UM, ZONING COMMISSION PLEASE NOT, UM, PERMIT THIS TO MOVE FORWARD. THANK YOU. THIS IS SHARON GARCIA. I LIVE AT 3 1 2 WEST NORWOOD COURT AND I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE MONTE VISTA TERRACE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ON BEHALF OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WE ARE IN OPPOSITION FOR THE APPROVAL OF AGENDA ITEM FOUR RELATED TO ONE 17 WEST WOODLAWN. CHANGING THE ZONING TO CONDITIONAL USE WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL NOT ONLY TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE SPIRIT OF ITS HISTORIC DISTRICT OVERLAY, BUT IT GOES AGAINST THE WHOLE POINT OF AN A D U BEING MORE FLEXIBLE TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS THE OWNERS OF THIS PROPERTY DO NOT RESIDE ON THE PROPERTY. THEREFORE, ADDING CONDITIONAL USE WOULD SUBVERT THE WHOLE PROCESS OF THERE NEEDING TO BE AN OWNER-OCCUPIED PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE TO HAVE THE A D U BEHIND IT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. HI, MY NAME IS STEVE VERTI, 1 0 5 RENO STREET. I'M CALLING IN REGARDS TO CASE 3 5 3 FOR CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS. I AM CALLING TO URGE THAT THIS BE RECOMMENDED FOR DENIAL. THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT WAY TO BRING SOMEONE INTO. THIS IS FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR, CASE ZONING CASE Z 2022 DASH 1 0 7 0 0 3 5 3 CD ADDRESS IS ONE 17 WEST WOODLAWN AVENUE. MY NAME IS TED ERRA FOR THE, I'M THE PRESIDENT FOR THE JEFFERSON NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, 2352 WEST MULBERRY, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 0 1 [02:35:01] IN DISTRICT SEVEN. THE JEFFERSON NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION SUPPORTS THE MONTE VISTA HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION'S OPPOSITION FOR THIS CASE LOCATED AT ONE 17 WEST WOODLAWN AVENUE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF OUR COMMENTS. HELLO, MY NAME IS TRUDY KINISON. I LIVE AT FOUR 18 WEST FRENCH PLACE IN THE MONTE VISTA HISTORIC DISTRICT. I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO ZONING CASE Z 2 0 2 2 DASH 1 0 7 0 0 3 5 3 CD. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT ONE 17 WEST WOODLAWN AVENUE. I AM OPPOSED TO THIS APPLICATION AND REQUEST THE ZONING COMMISSION DENY THE APPLICATION. MY POSITION IS BASED ON THE FACT THAT THE PROPERTY IS NOT OWNER OCCUPIED AND IF THIS PROPERTY IS REZONED, THE NEW ZONING WOULD ALLOW TWO DWELLING UNITS ON ONE LOT. I BELIEVE THAT THE CURRENT R FOUR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE PROPERTY. I REQUEST FOR A ZONING CHANGE TO FOUR R FOUR CONDITIONAL USE SHOULD BE DENIED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF MY OPINION AND RECOMMENDATION. TRUDY KINISON. THANK YOU. OKAY, AND THAT IS IT FOR VOICEMAILS. UM, AGAIN, WE, I JUST WANNA NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT STEVE SIG DID LEAVE US A EMAIL OR SEND US AN EMAIL THAT HE WAS HAVING TROUBLE WITH THE VOICEMAIL. SO WE PLAYED WHAT WE COULD AND THEN THE EMAIL HE SENT WAS PUT IN YOUR PACKET SO THAT YOU WOULD KNOW HIS RESPONSE. YES. AND WE DID RECEIVE THAT. ALL RIGHT. AND SO FOR THOSE TO BE SIGNED UP FIRST, UM, AGAIN, MR. RAY MORALES, YOU WANNA GIVE YOUR TIME TO MR. GARCIA? OKAY. UM, MS. ANN VAN PELT, ARE YOU IN ATTENDANCE? OH, HELLO. HELLO, HOW ARE YOU? I'M GOOD. SO YOU HAVE UM, TWO MINUTES. TWO MINUTES. , DON'T START UNTIL I GET . HELLO ALL. OKAY, TURN IT ON. UM, I'M HERE TO BE, UH, IN OPPOSITION OF THIS ZONING CHANGE. UH, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO THE OWNER WHO IS NO LONGER LIVING IN THE PROPERTY. ZONING IS NOT SOMETHING WE DO BY CONVENIENCE. WE DO IT BECAUSE IT IS NECESSARY OR BECAUSE IT'S APPROPRIATE. IN THIS CASE, IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE BECAUSE IT'S JUST A WISH. I WISH TO CHANGE IT BECAUSE I WANT IT TO CHANGE. MY REAL HAT IN LIFE IS SELLING REAL ESTATE. IF I SELL LOTS OF REAL ESTATE IN MONTE VISTA, AND LET ME TELL YOU, EVERY TIME I SHOW A PROPERTY, SOMEBODY'S GOING TO SAY TO ME, I WANNA MAKE IT AN OFFICE. I WANNA MAKE THIS HUGE BIG HOUSE INTO MULTIFAMILY. WE IN MONTE VISTA DO NOT, UH, SUPPORT ZONING CHANGES BECAUSE WE HAVE A VERY DIVERSE COMMUNITY AS IT EXISTS. SO JUST BECAUSE I WANT IT DOESN'T MEAN I NEED TO HAVE IT. UH, MONTE VISTA IS 300 SQUARE BLOCKS OF VERY DIVERSE HOUSING. THIS BLOCK IN THE 100 BLOCK OF WEST WOODLAWN IS ALREADY WELL DIVERSE, WELL THOUGHT OUT, AND SHOULD STAY JUST THE WAY IT IS ADDING. OH, WELL I JUST WANNA ADD ONE MORE DWELLING. NO, WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED ONE MORE DWELLING JUST BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO DENY THIS REQUEST, NOT BECAUSE WE HAVE SOMETHING AGAINST THE OWNER, BUT WE, WE ARE TOTALLY AGAINST REZONING. REZONING STAYS WITH THE PROPERTY FOR THE REST OF ITS LIFE. IT DOESN'T REVERT BACK UNLESS YOU CAN MAGICALLY MAKE IT GO AWAY. AFTER THIS OWNER COMES BACK, THEN YOU HAVE TO SAY NO AND SOMETIMES KNOWS THE HARDER THING TO SAY. WE ARE VERY PROUD THAT WE ARE 50 YEARS OF PRESERVATION IN MONTE VISTA. 50 YEARS OF PEOPLE REALLY CARING ABOUT THE COMMUNITY THEY LIVE IN 50 YEARS OF COMMUNITY BUILDING. WE CAN'T JUST SAY, WELL, EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE THEIR SAY YES. THEY SHOULD HAVE THEIR SAY, BUT THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO HAVE THEIR WAY. THANK YOU. THANKS. AND MS. VAN PEL, BEFORE YOU WALK AWAY, CAN WE GET YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD PLEASE? UH, MY NAME IS ANN VAN PELT. I LIVE AT 1 1 9 WEST SATCH, WHICH IS ABOUT FOUR BLOCKS FROM THIS PROPERTY. THANK YOU. AND THEN MR. TONY GARCIA. GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS TONY GARCIA. I LIVE AT 2 43 EAST SATCH AVENUE [02:40:01] IN SAN ANTONIO. I CHAIR THE ZONING AND CO COMPLIANCE COMMITTEE FOR THE MONTE VISTA HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION. THIS STATEMENT IS FOR AGENDA ITEM 4 1 17 WEST WOODLAWN ON BEHALF OF THE MONTE VISTA HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS OPPOSED TO THE APPLICATION. BACK IN AUGUST OF 2017, MAYOR NUREMBERG ESTABLISHED THE MAYOR'S HOUSING POLICY TASK FORCE AND THE BELIEF THAT ALL SAN ANTONIANS, REGARDLESS OF INCOME LEVELS DESERVED TO FIND QUALITY, AFFORDABLE HOUSING. UNDER THIS TASK FORCE, THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, NOW KNOWN AS SHIP WAS DEV, DEVELOPED TO EXPLORE ADDITIONAL SOLUTIONS THAT COULD INCREASE SAN ANTONIO'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING SUPPLY. MANY COMMUNITY LEADERS, INDUSTRY LEADERS, RESIDENTS AND CITY STAFF CONTRIBUTED THEIR TIME AND EXPERTISE IN CREATING SOLUTIONS UNDER SHIP. UNDER SHIP. ONE OF ITS A STRATEGIC GOAL IS TO INCREASE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PRODUCTION, REHABILITATION AND PRESERVATION. IN THE SHIP, WE SEE ITS GOAL IS TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF PERMITTED AFFORDABLE ADUS WITHIN THE CITY. AS NOTED IN SHIP, THESE ADUS ARE THE BUILDING BLOCKS TO BUILD WEALTH FOR GENERATIONAL HOUSEHOLDS, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, TO SUPPORT AGING IN PLACE. AS SOME OF THE, AS SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW, THE A D U CODE WENT THROUGH AN ARDUOUS DISCUSSION DURING LAST YEAR'S U D C AMENDMENT PROCESS. CERTAIN SECTIONS OF THE CODE WERE RELAXED TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF ADUS. WHAT WAS NEVER RELAXED NOR REMOVED WAS THAT SECTION OF THE CODE THAT REQUIRED THE PROPERTY TO BE OWNER OCCUPIED. THIS WAS TO ASSURE THAT THE CITY MEETS THE GOALS OF SHIP. IN OUR PARTICULAR CASE, THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE IS A NON-OWNER OCCUPIED TYPE TWO SHORT-TERM RENTAL. AND THE A D U IS CURRENTLY A LONG-TERM RENTAL. THIS PROPERTY DOES NOT MEET AND IS IN VIOLATION OF THE A D U CODE BY OFFERING AN OFF RAMP I E A REZONING WITH CONDITIONAL USE. WE ARE NOT ENFORCING THE CODE, BUT CIRCUMVENTING ENFORCEMENT OF THE CODE. BUT THE MOST TROUBLING CONCERN IS THAT THIS POLICY DIRECTION TRULY UNDERMINES THE PURPOSE OF SHIP. ARE WE WILLING TO DETERMINE, UH, TO UNDERMINE THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES AND GOALS UNDER WHICH THE MAYOR'S HOUSING POLICY TASK FORCE AND SHIP LABORED TO CREATE FOR ALL SAN ANTONIANS? ARE WE WILLING TO SUPPORT A POLICY DIRECTION THAT WILL BE REPEATED FOR FUTURE PROPERTY SEEKING CODE ENFORCEMENT RELIEF, KNOWING THAT IT WILL HAVE A CONSEQUENTIAL IMPACT ON THE FUTURE OF SHIP? IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT MONTE VISTA, BUT IT'S ABOUT ALL OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, ESPECIALLY OUR NER UH, VULNERABLE NEIGHBORHOODS, WHICH ARE, WHICH ARE ALL PART OF THE VISION OF SHIP. WE RESPECTFULLY ASK THE COMMISSION NOT TO UNDERMINE THE GOALS UNDER SHIP AND WE REQUEST DENIAL OF THE REZONING APPLICATION. WE THANK YOU. AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, MS. BIAN, UH, BIANCA MALDONADO SIGNED UP. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS BIANCA MALDONADO. I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE TIER ONE NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION. THE TIER ONE NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION STEERING COMMITTEE SUPPORTS THE MONTE VISTA HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION'S OPPOSITION FOR THE ZONING CASE AT ONE ONE WEST, 1 1 7 WEST WOODLAWN AVENUE FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS, ALLOWING THE CONVERSION OF AN EXISTING ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT INTO ITS OWN DWELLING UNIT. AND IT WOULD NO LONGER BE ACCESSORY TO THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE. THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO'S U D C STATES IN SECTION 35 DASH 3 71 ACCESSORY AND PRINCIPLE DWELLING STATEMENT OF PURPOSE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOOD STABILITY ARE IMPORTANT PUBLIC OBJECTIVES IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. AND IN RECENT YEARS, ADUS HAVE BECOME AN IMPORTANT METHOD TO PERMIT FAMILIES TO REMAIN IN THEIR HOMES BY SECURING RENTAL INCOME WHILE AT THE SAME TIME PROVIDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR THE ELDERLY SINGLE PERSON HOUSEHOLDS, STUDENTS, AND OTHER NEEDY POPULATIONS. IN QUOTE, OVER 45 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCI NEIGHBORHOODS WITHIN THE TIER ONE NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION REGISTERED THEIR OPINIONS IN SUPPORT OF THE RECENT U D C AMENDMENTS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL IN 2020. THESE AMENDMENTS ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF AND THE INCREASE THE DENSITY OF ADUS DURING THE 2022 U D C PROCESS. THE CITY'S NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICES DEPARTMENT AND THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT REITERATED TO TIER ONE NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION THAT THE OWNER OCCUPANCY REQUIREMENT FOR ADUS WOULD REMAIN IN THE U D C. AND THERE THIS WOULD NOT CHANGE. T ONE NCS CONCERN WITH THE OWNER OCCUPANCY REQUIREMENT FOR ADUS IS TO ENSURE THAT THE BENEFIT OF AN [02:45:01] A D U REMAINS AN OWNER OCCUPIED BENEFIT AND NOT ONE WHICH WOULD BE, WHICH WOULD ALLOW A LANDLORD, A PROPERTY MANAGER OR AN INVESTOR TO INCREASE THEIR PROFITS. THE ZONING ON A SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTY SHOULD NOT BE CHANGED TO ALLOW A PROPERTY OWNER TO WORK AROUND THE A D U OWNER OCCUPANCY REQUIREMENT. T ONE NC ALSO SUPPORTED THE CITY'S STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. GOAL NUMBER THREE OF SUPPORTING SINGLE, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WITH ADUS. WE NOTE THE PROPERTY WAS ERRONEOUSLY PERMITTED AS A TYPE ONE SHORT-TERM RENTAL. WE THANK THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT FOR CORRECTING THIS ERROR. PLEASE SUPPORT THESE URBAN CORE NEIGHBORHOODS AS THE ONLY PROTECTION THEY HAVE IS THE U D C. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND THAT IS IT FOR SPEAKERS. ALRIGHT. UH, THE APPLICANT HAS A OPPORTUNITY FOR A SHORT REBUTTAL THANK YOU TO ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS THAT LEFT VOICEMAILS AS WELL AS THOSE THAT TOOK THEIR OWN FREE TIME TO COME DOWN HERE AND GIVE THEIR OPINIONS. AND I TRULY BELIEVE EVERYBODY'S, UM, OPINIONS MATTER, INCLUDING MINE FEELS A LITTLE BIT RIGHT. I FEEL A LITTLE BIT RIGHT NOW, LIKE, UH, DAVID VERSUS GOLIATH WITH, UH, THE MONTE VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IN WHICH I AM A HOMEOWNER . UH, BUT THAT BEING SAID, UM, I DO ONE OF THE VOICEMAILS, UM, ONE OF THE PEOPLE ON THE VOICEMAIL MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT THE, THEY DIDN'T THINK THE, THE DENT OR THE SIZE OF MY PROPERTY SUPPORTED HAVING, UM, SOMEBODY LIVING IN THE PEOPLE USE UTILIZING OR ME, UH, LIVING IN THE MAIN PROPERTY. AND THEN, UM, SOMEBODY LIVING IN THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT. AND I AT LEAST WANNA CLARIFY THIS PROPERTY IS 0.269 ACRES, SO IT'S ALMOST 0.27 ACRES. AND ACTUALLY ON MY BLOCK, BESIDES THE LAW FIRM NEXT DOOR THAT HAS A DOUBLE LOT AND ONE OTHER HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET AND CLOSER TO THE, TO THE WEST, NOT THE NEIGHBOR THAT'S DIRECTLY ACROSS PROBABLY HAS A SIMILAR SIZE OR A LITTLE BIT BIGGER THAN MINE. BUT THE, MY, MY, UM, CURRENT HOME HAS IS NOT THE GARAGE AND ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT THAT IS ABOVE. IT IS NOT, UH, TAKING UP ANY MORE SPACE THAN ANYONE ELSE ON THE BLOCK WITH WHATEVER ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS OR ACCESSORY UNITS, UH, DETACHED GARAGES THEY HAVE. UM, AND THEN AS FAR AS WITH ALL DUE, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, UM, AGAIN, WHEN I STARTED OUT LATE LAST YEAR WITH, UM, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE WERE ANY ALTERNATIVES OR ANYTHING I COULD DO TO TRY TO MAKE THIS ALL WORK FOR MYSELF AND MY HUSBAND, UM, BEFORE MOVING BACK IN, LIKE I SAID, ONE TO TWO YEARS, THIS WAS NOT NECESSARILY A WISH, BUT I BELIEVE IT WAS, UM, TRYING TO FIND A REASONABLE METHOD TO REACH OUR GOAL, WHICH IS TO COME BACK LIVE IN OUR HOME AND AGE IN PLACE LIKE MANY OTHER PEOPLE ARE HOPING TO DO. SO I DON'T REALLY THINK OF THIS AS A WISH. AND, UM, THERE WAS ALSO SOMETHING MENTIONED ABOUT, UM, HAD MORE TO DO WITH, UM, ME BEING, UM, AS OPPOSED TO I AM A MEMBER OF MONEY VISTA HISTORIC ASSOCIATION. EVERYBODY IS THAT LIVES IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND, UH, WHETHER THEY GO TO ALL THE EVENTS OR NOT. BUT, UM, MY GOAL HERE IS AGAIN, NOT TO, UM, BE AN OUT OF TOWN OWNER, L L C, YOU KNOW, L L C. AND I HAVE NO CONTROL OVER PEOPLE BUYING THE PROPERTIES IN MONTE VISTA OR ANYWHERE ELSE. UM, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE RULES AND LAWS ABOUT YOU CAN'T DISCRIMINATE AGAINST WHO BUYS A CERTAIN PROPERTY, BUT I'M TOTALLY IN AGREEMENT THAT I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF PEOPLE COMING IN FROM OTHER STATES THAT, THAT AREN'T PLANNING TO LIVE HERE. OKAY. I KNOW MY TIME IS UP, SO I'LL JUST SAY AGAIN, I WANNA THANK EVERYONE THAT SPOKE TODAY OR GAVE THEIR VOICEMAILS AND THEN THE COMMISSION THAT'S HEARING THE CASE YET A THIRD, A THIRD TIME. UM, EVERYONE'S BEEN SUPER UNDERSTANDING AND I JUST ASK FOR YOUR THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. THIS IS A DISTRICT ONE CASE, SO COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE TO YOU FOR ANY QUESTIONS. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT. NO QUESTIONS. UH, ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS? ON MY LEFT? SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT. SEEING NONE. ALRIGHT, UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE BACK TO YOU FOR POSSIBLE MOTION. OKAY. UM, SO AS LAST TIME, I, I AM MAKING A MOTION FOR DENIAL OF ITEM NUMBER FOUR. UM, I'VE GOT SOME PREPARED COMMENTS THAT I'LL, THAT I'LL TALK ABOUT. UM, AS WITH LAST TIME, THIS IS A DIFFICULT CASE. UM, YOU KNOW, I, I UNDERSTAND WHERE THE, THE OWNER'S COMING FROM, WHERE THE APPLICANT'S COMING FROM WITH THIS. BUT, UM, I THINK AS [02:50:01] ZONING COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY ON DIFFICULT CASES LIKE THIS, I GO BACK TO THE U D C FACTORS, UM, IN SECTION 35,421, WHICH INCLUDE COMPATIBILITY, HEALTH, SAFETY, AND WELFARE. SUITABILITY IS PRESENTLY ZONED ADVERSE IMPACTS TO SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AND PUBLIC POLICY. ALL THOSE ARE ALL FACTORS THAT WE AS A ZONING COMMISSION ARE SUPPOSED TO BE CONSIDERING WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE CASES. ADDITIONALLY, THE U D C ALSO PROVIDES THAT IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT, AND THIS IS UNDER SECTION 35, 3, 3 3, THE ZONING COMMISSION SHALL APPLY THE FOLLOWING GOALS, PRESERVING ARCHITECTURAL INTEGRITY, PROMOTING THE GENERAL WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY BY FOSTERING COMPATIBLE LAND USES, PREVENTING USES THAT WOULD DETERIORATE THE CHARACTER OF THE LANDMARK OR OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT ITSELF, AND TO PROVIDE A SENSE OF COMMUNITY IDENTITY. ADDITIONALLY, ALL DECISIONS REGARDING A HISTORIC DISTRICT SHOULD CONFORM TO ESTABLISH ZONING REQUIREMENTS, PROTECT ADJACENT PROPERTY, AND ENCOURAGE PRESERVATION OF EXISTING STRUCTURES AND NEIGHBORHOOD INTEGRITY. THE REASON I'VE GONE INTO ALL THIS CODE IS TO PROVIDE BACKGROUND ON MY REASONING FOR AND MY FOCUS ON PUBLIC POLICY. IN THIS CASE, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER ADVERSE, UM, INDIRECT ADVERSE IMPACTS THAT THIS REZONING WOULD HAVE ON THE DISTRICT AND THE PRECEDENT WOULD SET FOR FUTURE DECISIONS BY THE ZONING COMMISSION REGARDING ADUS, NOT ONLY IN MONTE VISTA HISTORICAL, SO DISTRICT, BUT UM, ACROSS THE CITY AS A WHOLE. AGAIN, AS I'VE STATED LAST TIME, THIS IS A PERMANENT SOLUTION TO A TEMPORARY PROBLEM. THE OWNER STATED THAT SHE INTENDS TO, TO RETURN, UM, BUT WANTS TO RENT BOTH PROPERTIES IN THE MEANTIME TO MAXIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY SHE EARNS WHILE SHE'S LIVING AWAY, WHILE THE USE ON ITS FACE DOESN'T APPEAR TOO OUT OF PLACE ON THIS BLOCK, I'M CONCERNED WE'RE SETTING A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT. AND WHY DO I SAY THAT? IT'S DANGEROUS. TWO REASONS. NUMBER ONE, AS I MENTIONED, THE PERMANENT NATURE OF THE CHANGE IN THE TEMPORARY NATURE OF THE ISSUE AT HAND. AND NUMBER TWO, UM, UH, WHEN I LOOK AT THIS FOR PUBLIC POLICY REASONS, THE ONLY PUBLIC POLICY, AND IT'S NOT A PUBLIC POLICY, THE ONLY REASON I SEE TO CHANGE THIS IS ALLOWING SOMEONE TO MAKE MORE MONEY ON THEIR PROPERTY. THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. I REPRESENT, UM, ENTITIES AND REAL ESTATE TRANSACTIONS ALL THE TIME AND THEY WANNA MAKE MONEY. THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT, BUT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE LOOKING AT HERE AS ZONING COMMISSIONERS, RIGHT, PER THE U D C, PER THE LAW THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE CONSIDERING. SO, UM, I CAN'T FIND A, A REASON FOR JUSTIFYING THE CHANGE WHEN THERE ARE VERY STRONG PUBLIC POLICY GOALS OF THE CITY THAT WOULD BE UNDERMINED BY APPROVING THIS REZONING. AND YES, THIS PROPERTY IS ALREADY ON, UH, A MIXED USE BLOCK, UM, WITH SOME MULTI-FAMILY AND OFFICE USES. LAST TIME WE DISCUSSED THE, UM, R FOUR CD PROPERTIES, I THINK THAT ARE ON, KIND OF BORDERING THE NORTH SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY. I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND THE COUNCIL, OR TO REMIND THE COMMISSION THAT THESE WERE REZONED IN 2020 AS A RESULT OF THE LARGE AREA REZONING. THEY WERE DOWN ZONED FROM MULTIFAMILY FROM MF 33 AT THE DIRECTION OF CITY COUNCIL PURSUANT TO A C C R THAT WAS SIGNED BY INNER CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO CORRECT CODE CONVERSION ERRORS AND HELP PRESERVE NEIGHBORHOOD INTEGRITY OF MONTE VISTA. THESE WERE NOT SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES THAT WENT FROM R FOUR TO R FOUR C D FOR MULTIPLE UNITS. THEY WERE PROPERTIES ORIGINALLY BUILT AS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. THAT THROUGH, THROUGH THE CODE CONVERSION WERE THEN, UH, CUT UP AND PUT IN, MADE INTO, UM, MULTI-UNIT PROPERTIES WHILE THAT ZONING WAS IN PLACE. UM, AND THAT THAT HAD RESULTED IN OVER ZONE LOTS AND THE DECISION WAS MADE BY STAFF IN THIS COMMISSION TO NOT REQUIRE THEM TO RECONVERT TO SINGLE FAMILY USES. I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT CLARIFICATION. I ALSO WANNA CLARIFY, THERE ARE OTHER SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES ON THE BLOCK ACROSS THE STREET THAT ARE STILL BEING U USED AS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. SO IT'S NOT LIKE A SINGLE FAMILY USE REMAINING HERE ON THIS BLOCK. IT'S COMPLETELY OUT OF CHARACTER. UM, AND I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO TO POINT OUT, I THINK I, I'VE BEEN ON THIS COMMISSION FOR FOUR YEARS, SO LIKE YOU KIND OF START SEEING, YOU KNOW, TRENDS ON IN CERTAIN AREAS. YOU'RE LIKE, OH, WE JUST REZONED THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR, NOW WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE. THIS, THIS WILL BE ANOTHER DOMINO TO FALL ON THIS BLOCK AND YOU WILL SEE THE PROPERTIES ACROSS THE STREET. WE'LL COME AND WE'LL HA WE'LL REQUEST CDS. UM, THE R FOUR AT 1 1 4 AND 1 3 1 3 8 I THINK, OR ONE 30 WOODLAWN WILL ALSO COME AND REQUEST THOSE, RIGHT? IT'S LIKE, WELL, THEY GOT IT SO WE SHOULD GET IT AS WELL. AND THAT'S HOW THE CHARACTER OF THESE BLOCKS CHANGE ITS PROPERTY BY PROPERTY. AND INCREMENTAL CHANGES CAN PRODUCE WIDESPREAD DETERIORATION OF NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE RESIDENTS OF MONTE VISTA HAVE EXPERIENCED THROUGHOUT TIME THAT, AS MS. VAN PEL MENTIONED, 50 YEARS OF, OF, UH, COMING TO THESE MEETINGS AND ADVOCATING FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO REMAIN AS IT IS AND TO MITIGATE AND PREVENT NEGATIVE EFFECTS OF CHANGES. UM, LOOKING AT OTHER FACTORS TO CONSIDER IN REZONINGS, [02:55:01] I'M CONCERNED BY ADVERSE IMPACTS TO SURROUNDING PROPERTIES SUITABILITY OF PRESENT ZONE OF PRESENT ZONING AND PUBLIC POLICY. AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THIS PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ABLE TO BE USED AS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE AND THERE WOULD BE TWO UNITS AVAILABLE FOR USE IF THAT WAS OWNER OCCUPIED. UM, I ALSO BELIEVE THAT ADVERSE IMPACTS IN PUBLIC POLICY, IT'S, THIS IS A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT GIVEN THE RELAXING OF THE A D U REQUIREMENTS THAT WE APPROVED AS A COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL APPROVED LAST FALL, THAT TO ENCOURAGE THE DEVELOPMENT OF MORE ADUS. UM, AND I THINK THE, THE, THE CONCERNS PRESENTED BY TIER ONE I THINK ARE VERY VALID THAT THIS IS KIND OF A CONCERN CITYWIDE, THAT AS FOLKS ARE ABLE TO BUILD MORE ADUS, THEY WILL DO SO. AND THEN WE COULD HAVE, UH, THAT BE THIS, THE REZONINGS WOULD BE A RELEASE VALVE FOR THOSE PROPERTIES TO BE CONVERTED TO A CD AND THEN THOSE PROPERTIES BECOME MORE ATTRACTIVE TO INVESTORS. AND THAT IS IN DIRECT CONTRAVENTION OF SHIP, WHICH, UM, YOU KNOW, IS, I THINK I MENTIONED THIS LAST TIME, 45% OF THE OVER 100,000 FAMILIES WHO ARE RENT BURDENED IN THE CITY ARE SINGLE FAMILY, UH, OWNERS LOOKING FOR HOMES TO BUY. AND AS WE HAVE MORE PROPERTIES THAT ARE BEING SOLD TO INVESTORS, UM, THOSE PRICES GO UP AND UP BECAUSE THOSE PROPERTIES ARE ABLE TO BE USED FOR TWO FAMILIES PRODUCING RENT INCOME VERSUS JUST ONE. AND, UM, I'LL GIVE AN QUICK EXAMPLE. I KNOW I'M GOING ON VERY LONG AND I'M THE ONE WHO NEEDS TO LEAVE . UM, BUT, UM, I'LL GIVE A QUICK EXAMPLE. LIKE AGAIN, I MENTIONED BEING ON THE COMMISSION FOR A WHILE. YOU START SEEING TRENDS AND SEEING THINGS AND, AND YOU BECOME MAYBE A LITTLE GUN SHY. AND I TRULY BELIEVE MS. KEENER THAT YOU'RE A GOOD PERSON AND HAVE GOOD INTENTIONS. BUT AGAIN, THAT'S NOT, I HAVE TO TAKE INTO A FA INTO ACCOUNT THE FACT THAT THIS IS A PERMANENT CHANGE AND THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING COULD HAPPEN TO YOU AND IT COULD BE YOUR ESTATE OR IT COULD BE SOMEONE ELSE WHO'S DEALING WITH THIS IN THE FUTURE AND THEY MAY NOT HAVE THE SAME INTENTIONS AS YOU. SO THERE WAS A PROPERTY OWNER DURING THE LARGE AREA REZONING ON MULBERRY WHO THEY HAD A VACANT LOT AND THEY, UM, THEY CAME TO THE CITY STAFF AND TO INTO THE, THE COUNCIL OFFICE AND SAID, WE REALLY, THIS IS A VACANT LOT, BUT OUR DREAM IS TO BUILD OUR, OUR LOVELY RETIREMENT HOME HERE, BUT WE WANNA BE ABLE TO HAVE TWO METERS ON OUR PROPERTY SO THAT WE CAN RENT THE BACK UNIT. AND THIS PROPERTY WAS VACANT AND THEY SAID WE, WE REALLY NEEDED TWO A CD FOR TWO UNITS SO THAT WE CAN DO THIS 'CAUSE WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO, TO RENT THIS PROPERTY ON THE BACK AND WE WANNA HAVE THE TWO, THE TWO METERS. AND AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THE A D U UM, REQUIREMENTS MADE IT THAT YOU SUCH THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE TWO METERS IF IT WAS OF A CERTAIN SIZE. SO THAT WAS WHAT WAS RECOMMENDED. THAT'S WHAT WE APPROVED AS A ZONING COMMISSION UP HERE. AND, YOU KNOW, TWO YEARS LATER THERE'S NO CONSTRUCTION ON THAT PROPERTY AND IT'S ON THE MARKET BEING ADVERTISED AS A PROPERTY THAT IS FOR TWO UNITS AND IS SUITABLE FOR INVESTORS. SO THERE IS NOTHING TO PREVENT THIS FROM BEING, NOT SAYING THAT YOU PERSONALLY WOULD DO THAT, BUT THERE'S NOTHING TO PREVENT THAT FROM BEING THE CASE HERE, WHICH IS MY CONCERN AND WHY I AM SO GOING INTO SO MUCH BACKGROUND ON ALL OF THIS. UM, I THINK WE'RE SUPPOSED TO CONSIDER OUR CITY'S PUBLIC POLICY. I FAILED TO FIND ANY PUBLIC POLICY SUPPORT FOR THIS REZONING. I BELIEVE IT TO BE IN CONTRAVENTION OF SHIP, WHICH WAS THE RESULT OF MANY MONTHS OF WORK OF N H S D AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS IN THE FAM IN IN THE COMMUNITY. UM, AND I THINK IN REZONING WE HAVE TO BALANCE AN APPLICANT'S NEEDS WITH THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY. AND IN THIS CASE, I DON'T BELIEVE THE NEEDS OF THE APPLICANT OUTWEIGH THE GOALS OF THE CITY TO PROTECT THE COMMUNITY, THE FABRIC OF ITS HISTORIC DISTRICTS AND INCENTIVIZE HOUSING THAT'S ATTAINABLE FOR ITS RESIDENTS. UM, AND I THINK WE, WE ALSO NEED TO KEEP IN MIND WITH THE PRECEDENT THAT WE'RE SETTING HERE, SO WHEN ANOTHER PERSON COMES FORWARD IN A SIMILAR SITUATION, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO, TO BASICALLY LOOK BACK AT THIS DECISION THAT WE MAKE AND HOLD OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE AND SAY, DID WE MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION OR DO WE MAKE A DECISION BASED ON SOME OTHER FACTOR WHETHER, YOU KNOW, WE LIKE THE, THE APPLICANT OR BELIEVE WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO. AND SO I THINK THAT THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. UM, AND UH, I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THE FACT THE NEIGHBORHOOD TIER ONE ARE OVERWHELMINGLY IN OPPOSITION AND I BELIEVE THEIR ARGUMENTS HAVE MERIT AS WELL. ALRIGHT, SO YOUR MOTION IS FOR DENIAL. WE DIDN'T HAVE A SECOND YET. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. MOTION IS FOR DENIAL. UH, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON. ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER ON MY LEFT? SEEING, OH, COMMISSIONER WATSON, UH, . UM, I WANT TO HAMMER HOME THE FACT THAT THE PURPOSE OF ADJUSTING THE A D U REQUIREMENTS WAS TO CREATE ADDITIONAL HOUSING UNITS THAT ARE ATTAINABLE FOR FAMILY MEMBERS WHO WANT TO LIVE ON THE PROPERTY FOR ASPIRING FOLKS WHO CANNOT NECESSARILY AFFORD TO BUY RIGHT NOW, UM, OR DO WANNA LIVE IN HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS OR CLOSE TO WHERE THEY WORK BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TRANSPORTATION OR BECAUSE THEY HAVE A ACCESS CHALLENGES AND CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE IN AN APARTMENT COMPLEX. [03:00:01] SO HAVING THE OWNER LIVE IN THE PRIMARY RESIDENCE AND THEN CREATING THAT ADDITIONAL HOUSING UNIT FOR SOMEONE WHO'S IN THE COMMUNITY TO LIVE IN AS A PATHWAY FORWARD, UM, THEY'RE GOING TO BE SHARED STAKEHOLDERS IN THE COMMUNITY. IT CREATES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO LIVE IN THE COMMUNITIES WHERE THEY WORK. EVEN THOUGH IN THIS SITUATION, THE APPLICANT, WHOM I BELIEVE TO BE A WONDERFUL PERSON OF GREAT INTENTION AND GOOD CHARACTER, UM, IS FACING THIS CHALLENGE THAT THE POINT OF THE A D U CHANGES IN THE U D C AMENDMENTS AND THE POINT OF SHIP IS TO CREATE ADDITIONAL HOUSING OPTIONS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE NOW. UM, AND THE CONCERN ABOUT SETTING A PRECEDENT, UM, THAT ATTRACTS INVESTOR DEVELOPMENT, UH, CREATES ISSUES WITH ENFORCING THE S T R ORDINANCE OVERWHELMINGLY INFORMS MY DECISION. I ALSO LIVE IN AN INNER CITY DISTRICT WHERE WE HAVE MANY ADUS, UM, AND ARE CONSTANTLY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO KEEP PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING CLASS, WHO DO NOT HAVE CARS ABLE TO STAY WHERE THEY'VE LIVED FOR DECADES. UM, ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS ARE PART OF THAT LOCALLY OWNED. SMALLER DUPLEXES AND MULTIPLEX PROPERTIES ARE PART OF THAT. AND THE MORE WE PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES AND OPTIONS FOR THOSE TO GO AWAY AS AFFORDABLE RENTAL UNITS, THE HARDER IT IS FOR PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY TO STAY THERE. UM, AND SO I AM WHOLEHEARTEDLY SECONDING, UH, COMMISSIONER GREAT HOUSE'S MOTION. UM, I AGREE WITH HER VERY WELL, UH, DEVELOPED ARGUMENT AS MUCH AS I FEEL FOR THE APPLICANT AND THE CHALLENGE THAT YOU'RE FACING IN THIS CASE. UM, AND I ALSO, UH, WANNA COMMEND ALL OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND MEMBERS OF MONTE VISTA HISTORICAL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION FOR PREPARING THOUGHTFUL, UM, ARGUMENTS THAT ALIGN WITH WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE CONSIDERING, UM, IN A LAND USE DECISION, UM, WHICH IS WHAT WE DO AT ZONING. WE LOOK AT THE CODE AND WE DECIDE WHETHER, UM, THE PRESENTATION HAS MERIT BASED ON, ON THE CODE, UM, NOT ON OUR PERSONAL FEELINGS, UM, ABOUT EITHER OPPOSITION TO THE APPLICANT OR THE APPLICANT'S, UH, PROPOSAL. SO, UM, WITH THAT I WILL CONCLUDE MY COMMENTS AND PUT IT UP TO ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. COMMENTS, COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT. COMMISSIONER LU HOLLAND. HI. I'LL BE CHANGING MY DECISION. UM, AND WE COUNTER TO WHAT I HAD DECIDED LAST TIME. I DO WANT TO COMMEND THE APPLICANT FOR TAKING THE TIME. I KNOW YOU DON'T LIVE HERE AND YOU DID TRAVEL BACK AND FORTH QUITE A BIT TO DO THIS PROCESS CORRECTLY AND TO DO RIGHT BY YOUR COMMUNITY, UM, AND TO USE THE PROCESS AVAILABLE TO YOU TO SEE IF YOU COULD CREATE THE POSSIBILITY THAT YOU DESIRED. UM, AND I APPRECIATE YOU FOR THAT, UH, BECAUSE OTHER FOLKS MAY NOT WANT CHOOSE TO DO THE SAME THING. AND I DO WANNA RAISE YOU AS AN EXAMPLE FOR THAT. HOWEVER, I WILL BE SUPPORTING, UH, THE MOTION AND I WISH YOU THE BEST. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS, COMMISSIONERS? ON MY RIGHT. OKAY. NONE. UM, I, I WILL ALSO BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION, UM, AND, UM, AS MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HAVE SAID, UH, TO THE APPLICANT, IT IS, UH, THROUGH NO NEGATIVITY TOWARD YOU, BUT BASED ENTIRELY UPON THE LAND USE. AND, UM, I'VE TAKEN NOTES AND I'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO LISTEN TO THE MEETING AND TRANSCRIBE WHAT COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE HAS SAID BECAUSE SHE HAD A LOT OF GOOD POINTS FOR THOSE OF US WHO, WHO LIVE IN, UH, THE ORIGINAL 36. SO WITH THAT, THE MOTION IS FOR DENIAL BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER FUENTES. AYE. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER NICKS? YES. COMMISSIONER LU HOLLAND? YES. CHAIR SIPES? YES. ITEM PASSES FOR DENIAL. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. AND, AND GOOD LUCK. UM, AND WITH THAT, I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE IS ALSO LEAVING US AT 4:20 PM UM, AND I, I UN UNFORTUNATELY, I FAILED TO NOTE THE TIME WHEN COMMISSIONER OLSON WAS AT THREE, AROUND 3 0 5 OR SO. THREE O'CLOCK. OKAY. AT THREE O'CLOCK. COMMISSIONER BOSON, COMMISSIONER BUSANTE LEFT? YES. ALRIGHT, THAT LEAVES 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. WE GOT PLENTY OF PERMISSION. DO YOU WANT US TO TAKE YOUR ITEM NEXT SINCE YOU'RE GOING TO DEPART AS WELL, RIGHT? I'M GONNA TRY AND STICK IT OUT. OKAY. UM, I FOUND ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION , SO IF WE COULD MOVE ON TO, I THINK, WAS IT COMMISSIONER? IT WAS ITEM NUMBER THREE. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS CAMERON BLACKMAN, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER THREE IS GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 600 BLOCK OF RICHLAND HILLS DRIVE GOING FROM C THREE NA, GENERAL COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES TO [03:05:01] M X D MIXED USE DISTRICT WITH MAXIMUM DENSITY OF 50 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE WITH ALL OVERLAYS STAYING THE SAME. THERE WERE NINE NOTICES SENT OUT. ONE IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED, ONE OPPOSED OUTSIDE 200 FEET AND THERE IS NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET. THE EXISTING C THREE NA, GENERAL COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT AS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. THEY REQUESTED M X D MIXED DIS MIXED USE DISTRICT WITH MAXIMUM DENSITY OF 50 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE IS ALSO APPROPRIATE FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. THE PRO THE PROPOSAL FOR 50 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA. THE REQUEST FOR THE M X D MIXED USE DISTRICT WITH ADDITIONAL USES PERMITTED IN C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND I ONE GENERAL INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT ALIGN WITH THE SURROUNDING ZONING OF THE AREA. ADDITIONALLY, THE REQUEST FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OF THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN FOR DIVERSE HOUSING OPTIONS FOR ALL INCOME LEVELS TO ADDRESS GROWING HOUSING NEEDS OF THE CITY STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS AND RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST, THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. GREAT. IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE. GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. KEVIN DENDA ORTIZ MCKNIGHT, REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER AND APPLICANT. K E M TEXAS. UH, WE ARE LOCATED AT 1 5 3 TREELINE PARK BY THE WAY. UM, I'VE PREPARED A BRIEF PRESENTATION, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE IN FRONT OF YOU, YOU CAN GO ONTO SLIDE TWO. HERE'S AN AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH OF THE SITE. IT IS OUTLINED IN RED. IT'S APPROXIMATELY A 10.6 ACRE SITE LOCATED JUST NORTHWEST OF RICHLAND HILLS DRIVE AND MIDHURST AVENUE. WE ARE, UH, WE HAVE ACCESS TO INGRAM PARKWAY AND WE ARE LOCATED JUST NORTH OF LOOP FOUR 10 TO OUR NORTH IS A, UH, EXISTING SCHOOL TO OUR EAST IS AN EXISTING APARTMENT COMPLEX. UH, TO OUR SOUTH IS A NORTH SIDE I S D PURCHASING DEPARTMENT AND TO OUR WEST IS A PETCO PROFESSIONAL OFFICE BUILDING. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. BEFORE YOU NOW IS A LAND USE MAP OF THE PROPERTY. UH, WE ARE DESIGNATED GENERAL URBAN TIER IN THE WEST SOUTHWEST SECTOR. PLAN, UH, GENERAL URBAN TIER ALLOWS PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL ZONING, BUT DOES NOT ALLOW MIXED USE ZONING. UH, AS I WILL POINT OUT HERE IN A MINUTE, UH, GENERAL URBAN TIER IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE ZONING AND ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA. UH, SO TO THAT END, WE DID REQUEST A PLAN AMENDMENT TO MIXED USE CENTER, UH, LAST NOVEMBER, LAST DECEMBER. PLANNING COMMISSION HEARD AND APPROVED THE REQUESTED PLAN AMENDMENT. UH, AND THAT ITEM STAYED ON CONSENT. NEXT, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO, AS I PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED IN THE LAST SLIDE, UM, THE EXISTING ZONING IN THE AREA DOES NOT MATCH THE FUTURE LAND USE. UH, OUR SITE HERE IS OUTLINED IN YELLOW AND WE ARE SURROUNDED BY A MIX OF ZONING DISTRICTS INCLUDING COMMERCIAL, RESIDENTIAL, AND INDUSTRIAL. THE OVERALL REQUEST TODAY IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM C THREE N A TO M X D WITH USES PERMITTED IN MF 50 AND C TWO. THE M X D DISTRICT BEING THE MIXED USE, UH, ZONING DISTRICT. UH, THE REQUESTED M X D ZONING DISTRICT WILL ALLOW DEVELOPMENT THAT COMPLIMENTS THE SURROUNDING ZONING DISTRICTS AND DEVELOPMENTS AND ALSO PROVIDE THE NECESSARY FLEXIBLE BUILDING STANDARDS, UH, THAT WILL ALLOW DEVELOPMENT OF THIS UNIQUE SITE WHICH HAS ACCESS TO BOTH UH, MIDHURST AVENUE AND RICHLAND HILL DRIVE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. HERE YOU CAN SEE A PROPOSED SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN OF THE OVERALL PROJECT. UM, AS I'VE MENTIONED AT THE OUTSET, THE DEVELOPMENT WILL BE A MIXED USE MULTIFAMILY AND COMMERCIAL OFFICE DEVELOPMENT. UH, THE O THE, EXCUSE ME, THE APARTMENTS WILL BE LOCATED, UH, ALONG THE WESTERN AND NORTHERN BOUNDARY LINES WITH THE OFFICE LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST PORTION OF THE PROPERTY. IT'S ESTIMATED CURRENTLY THAT WE WILL HAVE ROUGHLY 250 TO 275 TOTAL RESIDENTIAL UNITS. WHEN YOU FACTOR THAT OUT OVER THE ENTIRE 10 ACRES SITE, IT COMES OUT TO 25 TO 27.5 UNITS PER ACRE. BUT WHEN YOU FACTOR IT OUT OVER THE PROPOSED, UH, DEVELOPMENT SITE THAT WE ARE CONTEMPLATING FOR MULTIFAMILY, WHICH IS SEVEN ACRES, THAT COMES OUT TO ROUGHLY 39 UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH LINES UP WITH OUR, UH, UNDERLYING [03:10:01] ZONING REQUEST. THE DEVELOPMENT IS CURRENTLY CONTEMPLATED TO HAVE UP TO FOUR STORIES AND THE, UM, TWO STORY OFFICE BUILDINGS, UM, IS ALSO AS I MENTIONED, UM, PLANNED IN THE SOUTHEASTERN PORTION. UH, BUT THAT COMPONENT IS PLANNED TO INCLUDE TWO OFFICE RETAIL BUILDINGS WITH A TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF 30,000 TO 40,000 SQUARE FEET. UM, IMPORTANTLY I WANT TO NOTE QUICKLY THAT PARKING IS ALWAYS AN, UH, IMPORTANT ITEM TO BRING UP. SO WE HAVE ANALYZED HOW MUCH PARKING WILL BE REQUIRED FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT. AND BASED ON THE CURRENT SITE PLAN, THE MULTIFAMILY PORTION WOULD HAVE A MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENT OF 1.5 SPACES PER UNIT, WHICH COMES OUT TO THREE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE TWO FOUR HUNDRED AND TWELVE TOTAL PARKING SPACES. AND THE COMMERCIAL COMPONENT WOULD HAVE A MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENT OF ONE SPACE PER 300 SQUARE FEET, WHICH FACTORS OUT TO 100 TO 133 TOTAL SPACES. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO AS YOU, UM, COULD PROBABLY TELL FROM THE PREFIX TO OUR ZONING REQUEST, UH, THIS CASE WAS FILED LATE LAST YEAR IN NOVEMBER, 2022 AND PRESENTED TO PLANNING COMMISSION IN DECEMBER, 2022. BASED ON THE FEEDBACK FROM DISTRICT SIX REPRESENTATIVES AND STAKEHOLDERS, WE HAVE WORKED SINCE THAT TIME TO ADDRESS CONCERNS INCLUDING DRILLING DOWN ON THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT, THE DENSITY AND THE TRAFFIC. AND SPECIFICALLY AS RELATED TO TRAFFIC, THOUGH NOT REQUIRED AT THE ZONING STAGE, WE DID COMMISSION A TRAFFIC STUDY TO COMPARE A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, UH, TO THAT WHICH WOULD OTHERWISE BE PERMITTED IN THE C THREE ZONING DISTRICT. THAT TRAFFIC STUDY FOUND THAT A 490 UNIT MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT WOULD GENERATE ROUGHLY ONE THIRD THE TRAFFIC OF A COMMERCIAL SHOPPING CENTER, WHICH WOULD OTHERWISE BE PERMITTED IN THE C THREE AND A ZONING DISTRICT. ALL THAT TO SAY WE HAVE WORKED DILIGENTLY AT THIS ITEM AND NOW BELIEVE THAT WITH THE SITE PLAN TRAFFIC STUDY THAT THE PROPOSED REZONING MEETS THE GOALS OF THE WEST SOUTHWEST SECTOR PLAN AND SUFFICIENTLY ADDRESSES LAND USE CONCERNS RELATED TO REZONING OF THIS SITE. I NOTE THAT BECAUSE LATE YESTERDAY AFTERNOON WE RECEIVED A NOTICE FROM AN ADJACENT, UH, COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION REGARDING QUESTIONS, UH, RELATED TO TRAFFIC AND DENSITY. WE ARE OPEN TO DISCUSSING ANY OF THOSE CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS, BUT WE FEEL THAT WE'VE SUFFICIENTLY THE CONCERNS RELATED TO LAND USE THUS FAR AND FEEL THAT WE ARE IN A APPROPRIATE STAGE TO MOVE FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL. NEXT, UH, SLIDE PLEASE. SO TO WRAP UP, UH, QUICKLY, THE OVERALL REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE 10.6 ACRE TRACT TO M X D IN ORDER TO ALLOW FOR A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT WITH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL OFFICE USES. THE REZONING IS CONSISTENT WITH ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND WILL COMPLEMENT THE VARIOUS RESIDENTIAL, INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICTS IN THE AREA. CITY STAFF HAS ANALYZED THE REQUEST AND ARE IN SUPPORT OF THE OVERALL REZONING. WITH THAT, WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FOR THE PROPOSED REZONING. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS KEVIN DINDA. I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, UH, CHAIR. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO RESERVE TIME FOR REBUTTAL. SURE. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? WE DO. WE HAVE A, UH, SPEAKER, MR. TOM NEWTON. MR. NEWTON. HI, GOOD AFTERNOON. UH, MY NAME'S TOM NEWTON. I'M A LAWYER WITH ALAN STEIN AND DURBIN AND I REPRESENT THAT COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION THAT REACHED OUT TO MR. DIANDA YESTERDAY. THIS WAS JUST BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION. MY CLIENT'S VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE PROPOSED HIGH DENSITY OF AS MUCH AS 50 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. UH, RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR THIS TO BE DENIED. WE'RE ASKING FOR A POSTPONEMENT. WE'D LIKE A CONTINUANCE OF A COUPLE WEEKS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE TIME TO TALK TO THE APPLICANT AND THEIR REPRESENTATIVES AND WORK OUT AN ARRANGEMENT THAT WILL BE, UH, AMENABLE TO THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GONNA BE RIGHT NEXT DOOR. I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT GREAT HEART SCHOOL, YOU'VE GOT ALL KINDS OF TRAFFIC ALREADY AROUND US. AND BECAUSE I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS, I JUST WAS ABLE TO TALK TO MR. DENDA ABOUT IT YESTERDAY AND, UH, HE DID SEND ME HIS TRAFFIC STUDY. MY CLIENT'S NOT REALLY HAD ADEQUATE TIME TO REVIEW IT. AND SO I'D ASK YOU NOT TO RUSH THIS DECISION. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. AND WAS THAT IT IN PUBLIC COMMENT? CORRECT. AND THERE'S NO VOICEMAILS. ALRIGHT. AND APPLICANT, YOU HAVE [03:15:01] A SHORT REBUTTAL TIME. UH, NOT REALLY MUCH TO REBUT THERE, BUT YES, WE DID RECEIVE NOTICE LATE YESTERDAY AFTERNOON. I DID WANT TO NOTE THOUGH, JUST HIGHLIGHTING AND, YOU KNOW, DRILLING DOWN ON IT. UH, WE HAVE BEEN AT THIS EFFORT SINCE LAST, LATE LAST YEAR, UM, SINCE NOVEMBER, 2022, IF APPROVED HERE TODAY. OUR CITY COUNCIL DATE IS PROJECTED AS MAY 18TH, SO THAT'S A MONTH AWAY. I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS SUFFICIENT TIME TO ADDRESS ANY RELEVANT LAND USE CONCERNS, UH, RELATED TO THE REZONING, UM, BEFORE MAY 18TH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THIS IS A, UH, I GOT DISTRICT SIX. OKAY. COMMISSIONER, WE TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. UH, QUESTION FOR MR. QUESTION FOR MR. NEWTON, PLEASE? YES, SIR. SO, MR. NEWTON, I UNDERSTAND YOU JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS EFFORT RECENTLY. WHEN DID YOUR CLIENT FIND ABOUT THE REZONING? I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION, SIR. OKAY. SO HAVE YOUR CLIENT EVER APPEARED BEFORE THIS COMMISSION? NOT AS FAR AS I KNOW. SO DID MR. DIANDRA EVER DE DECLINE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH YOU ON THIS CASE? NO, HE RETURNED MY CALL. OKAY. AND HE SPOKE WITH ME AGAIN THIS MORNING. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. SURE. UH, QUESTION FOR STAFF. THANK YOU, SIR. SO PLEASE REMIND ME WHEN DID THIS CASE COME BEFORE US? THAT WAS SOMETIME IN NOVEMBER 20. IT WAS, IT WAS LAST YEAR. WE'RE TRYING TO GET THAT DATE FOR YOU. NORMALLY, IF IT HAS COME TO ZONING COMMISSION, IT'S ON THE STAFF REPORT, BUT SINCE THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT, IT'S NOT ON THE STAFF REPORT PAGE. OKAY. SO DID THE STAFF FOLLOW THE PRESCRIBED PROCEDURES FOR NOTIFYING, UH, THE, THE, THE AREA OF THIS REZONING? YES, SIR. THE, THE 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION WAS DONE? YES. OKAY. AND, AND HOW MANY PEOPLE RESPONDED TO THAT, UH, NOTIFICATION? NINE NOTICES. NINE NOTICES WERE SENT ONE IN FAVOR? ZERO OPPOSED. AND NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OUTSIDE 200 FEET. ONE RECEIVED IN, UH, OPPOSITION. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND YOU'RE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL, RIGHT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. UH, QUESTION FOR MR. DINDA. SO YOU PROVIDED THE T I A AND YOU ALSO PROVIDED A PROPOSED SITE PLAN, RIGHT? CORRECT. WAS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE HAD ASKED FOR THAT YOU HAVEN'T PROVIDED? NO, NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE. NOT YET. THANK YOU. UH, MR. CHAIR, I WANNA OPEN UP THE, UH, QUESTIONS TO THE REST OF MY COMMISSIONERS BEFORE I MAKE MOTION. OKAY? GREAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT. QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT BACK TO YOU. COMMISSIONER. WE THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. SO WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS CASE FOR QUITE A FEW MONTHS AND I THINK THE APPLICANT HAS DONE A, HIS DUE DILIGENCE IN PROVIDING US THE INFORMATION WE WERE SEEKING. I THINK INITIALLY WHEN WE SAW, UH, YOUR PRESENTATION, WE HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS, BUT I DO WANT, I DO WANNA SAY THAT, UM, ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAD YOU HAVE ANSWERED. SO, AS YOU MENTIONED, IF WE WERE TO APPROVE YOUR APPLICATION TODAY, AND WE RECOMMEND THAT TO THE COUNCIL, THERE WILL BE ABOUT 30 DAYS BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN THE COUNCIL MEETS. SO GIVEN THAT I WOULD HOPE THAT, UM, MR. NEWTON AND YOU WOULD HAVE A CONVERSATION, RESOLVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT HE MAY HAVE IN THOSE 30 DAYS. SO GIVEN THAT I MOVE TO APPROVE THIS, UH, APPLICATION. SECOND. ALRIGHT. THERE IS A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER, WE FOR APPROVAL, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT? DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT. MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER FUENTES? AYE. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH. AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER NICKS? YES. COMMISSIONER LAG HOLLAND? YES. CHAIR SIPES? YES. ITEM PASSES. OKAY, GREAT. ARE WE ON ITEM 12? [03:20:01] IS THAT THE NEXT? ALRIGHT, ITEM 12. IF WE COULD HAVE STAFF'S PRESENTATION PLEASE. AND JUST SO THAT YOU KNOW, UH, COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE HAS ASKED, UH, COMMISSIONER FUENTES TO ADDRESS THIS ITEM FOR HIM. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. AND BENAVIDEZ ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER 12 IS LOCATED AT 3 3 8 ALICIA AVENUE AND IS A REQUEST TO GO FROM R SIX TO RMM SIX WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. THERE WERE 36 NOTICES SENT WITH ZERO RETURN IN FAVOR. SIX. RETURN AND OPPOSITION IN LOMA PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR. STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THIS ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA. THE CURRENT R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE SURROUNDING AREA, BUT THE PROPOSED RM SIX RESIDENTIAL MIXED DISTRICT IS ALSO APPROPRIATE. THE PROPOSED RMM SIX WILL PERMIT TWO UNITS ON THE PROPERTY AND THE SIZE. CONSIDERING THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY, THE DEVELOPMENT WILL REQUIRE THE TWO UNITS BE ATTACHED AS ONE STRUCTURE. ADDITIONALLY, THE REQUESTED RMM SIX ALIGNS WITH THE GOALS OF THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, WHICH AIMS TO CREATE ADDITIONAL HOUSING OPTIONS TO MEET THE GROWING POPULATION. STAFFER RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE. GOOD AFTERNOON ZONING COMMISSIONING. UH, MY NAME IS GUILLERMO GOMEZ, REFERENCING MY HOUSE AND AT THREE THREE ALICIA AVENUE, I MOVED, UM, EXCUSE ME, LEMME GET MY, I MOVED TO THIS GREAT CITY, 1995 FROM LAREDO, TEXAS TO PURSUE A DEGREE AT U T S A AND THEY DECIDED TO LIVE IN THIS GREAT CITY. I HAVE OWNED THE PROPERTY AT 3 3 8 ALICIA AVENUE SINCE 2007. THE PROPERTY HAS A HOME AND A LOT NEXT TO THAT HOME. THE HOME IS CURRENTLY BEING RENTED. THE REASON I REQUESTED A DUPLEX IS BECAUSE THERE IS THREE EXISTING DUPLEXES AND ALSO I HAVE SPOKEN WITH LOMA PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, UH, PRECEDENT. TERRY KILMER, IN WHICH I MET SPOKE AND SHE AGREED. CAN YOU PUT THE, UM, SLIDES PLEASE? OKAY. THOSE ARE THE, UH, 3, 3 1 3 5 4 AND 3 5 0 DUPLEX EXISTING DUPLEXES. JUST REQUESTING WHAT I THINK IS RIGHT SINCE THERE IS EXISTING DUPLEXES IN ALICIA AVENUE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. AND DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? WE DO. WE HAVE A MS. ESPINOZA. YES. MS. ESPINOZA. MY NAME IS FELICITAS ELIZABETH ESPINOZA. I WANT TO APOLOGIZE. UH, I'M SURE THERE'S GONNA BE A NEXT TIME FOR DUE DILIGENCE. I WILL USE POWERPOINT. OKAY. THIS AS Y'ALL CAN SEE THIS, THIS, YOU CAN, OKAY. THAT'S RUNNING AGAINST MY TIME. OH, NO. OKAY. UM, AS Y'ALL, Y'ALL CAN PUT IT UP THERE. OKAY. YOU CAN SEE. OKAY. AS Y'ALL CAN SEE, RIGHT THERE IN THE CENTER IS MY HOUSE ADJACENT TO MY HOUSE IS 3 38, WHERE GUILLERMO RINS IT OUT. AND THEN I HAVE AN EMPTY LOT. BOTH THOSE PLOT LOTS ARE MINE. I'VE BEEN IN THAT HOUSE FOR 30 YEARS. THOSE ARE THE TWO ONLY DUPLEXES ON THAT SIDE. AND ON ONE SIDE THERE IS ONE OF THE DUPLEX. HE IS CORRECT. HOWEVER, UM, ASIDE FROM THAT, HE WANTS TO PUT A DUPLEX THERE. RECENTLY, THIS $250,000 HOME WAS BUILT. THAT $250,000 HOME, UM, IS GONNA BE FACING THE DUPLEXES THAT HE WANTS TO PUT IN THERE. AND YES, IT'S TWO LOTS. BUT HIS H HIS HOUSE HE HAS IS, IS, UH, UH, WAY FURTHER FROM THIS SIDE. IF HE PUTS THE DUPLEX ON HERE, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE NO, NO, UM, NO. UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? UH, FOR HER PARKING. OKAY. AGAIN, I'M GONNA GO BACK TO MY HOUSE. HERE'S THE OTHER TWO DUPLEXES THAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT THAT ARE THERE. OKAY. I TOOK A PICTURE FROM MY HOUSE. THIS IS THE SITE IN THE BACK. OKAY. CAN YOU ALL SEE? OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I HAVE FOR ONE OF THE DUPLEXES. OKAY. THIS IS MY EMPTY LOT. ALL THOSE TREES ON THE OTHER SIDE, I TRY TO CONTACT, THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT OWNERS. I TRY TO CONTACT THEM. THEY DON'T DO IT. SO EVERY TIME A TREE FALLS, GUESS WHO HAS TO CUT IT? I DO. WHO GUESS WHO HAS TO GET RID OF IT? I DO. OKAY. THE TWO LOT, THE TWO THINGS THAT HE'S SAYING, THESE ARE THEM. THE TWO DUPLEXES, THAT'S THE WAY THEY HAVE 'EM, THEY'RE FACING EACH OTHER. THE, THE OWNERS [03:25:01] JUST WANNA COLLECT RENT. IT'S, THIS IS A SINGLE, THIS IS A, A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. WHERE'S, DID I GIVE YOU THE PICTURE? HOLD ON. WHERE'S THE PICTURE? WHERE I, ON THE OTHER SIDE WHERE IT IS ONE HOUSE, 50 YEARS. THE OTHER HOUSE, 50 YEARS. THE OTHER ONE THAT JUST, JUST BUILT FOR 250,000. BUT IT'S A SINGLE, IT'S, IT'S ALL RESIDENTIAL OLDER PEOPLE. AND I'M FOR DUE DILIGENCE. I PROMISE Y'ALL WE'LL BRING ONE OWNER FOR EVERY PROPERTY AGAINST IT. OKAY. OH, AND PLEASE TELL HIM NOT TO TAKE THE SIGN OFF THE PROPERTY. 'CAUSE HE TOOK IT OFF AND THAT WAS NOT RIGHT. I'M AMEN. OKAY. THANK, THANK YOU. UM, YES, MR. UH, GOMEZ, YOU HAVE A, WAS THAT ALL A PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE I ASK? YES, CORRECT. YES. OKAY. MR. GOMEZ, YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A SHORT REBUTTAL? JUST FOR THE RECORD. I DID NOT TAKE ANYTHING DOWN AND, UM, JUST, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, JUST REQUESTING WHAT I THINK IS RIGHT. UM, THERE ARE EXISTING DUPLEXES IN ALICIA AVENUE, AND I ALSO WENT AND SPOKE WITH THE PRESIDENT OF LOMA PARK NEIGHBORHOOD JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT SHE WAS, UM, UM, AWARE AND APPROVAL. IF THAT WASN'T THE CASE, THAT I WOULD'VE NOT MOVED FORWARD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE CASE, BUT COMMISSIONER FUENTES HAS TAKEN OVER. SO TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS. A QUESTION. WELL, STATE QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. MR. GOMEZ, HAVE YOU MADE ANY ATTEMPTS TO SPEAK WITH ANY OF THE MEMBERS OF THE, OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO GAUGE THEIR OPINION? NO. HONESTLY, I DIDN'T THINK, UM, I SHOULD HAVE. I, I'M NOT AWARE OF THE, OF THAT. I WASN'T AWARE OF THAT PROCESS THAT I NEEDED TO, I MEAN, I KNOW THIS LADY FOR A WHILE. I KNOW HER PARENTS AS WELL. ALRIGHT. SO, UM, I'M GOING TO BE RECOMMENDING SOMETHING IN JUST A SECOND, BUT I, I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU GETTING OUT INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND GETTING SOME OPINIONS ON YOUR, ON YOUR POINT, UH, TO FAVOR YOUR POINT. UH, EDUCATE THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO AND PROVIDE THEM WITH AS MUCH INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE. ALRIGHT? WILL DO. AND MA'AM, COULD, COULD I HAVE YOU UP TO THE YES, YES, SIR. ABSOLUTE. YOU'VE GATHERED SOME OF SOME EVIDENCE THAT WE SAW TODAY MM-HMM. , UH, TO PROVE YOUR POINT, AND YOU'VE SPOKEN WITH OTHER HOMEOWNERS IN THE AREA. EVERYBODY, THERE'S THREE OTHER PEOPLE, BUT ONE OF THEM IS THE DEPUTY SHERIFF AND 'CAUSE UH, HIS TIME I COULDN'T GET HIM. AND THEN AFTER HE TOOK THE SIGN, SO HE TOOK ME. BUT EVERYBODY IS OPPOSED TO IT RIGHT THERE IN THE STREET. I'M GONNA GO, IF WE CAN GIVE US AMPLE TIME, I'M GONNA GO AND GET EVERYBODY ELSE ON YOLANDA AND ON CIA. TRUE. LIKEWISE. I, I MAKE THE SAME RECOMMENDATION, UH, GATHER AS MUCH EVIDENCE AND AS MANY OPINIONS ON, UH, RECORDED. YES. UH, TO SUPPORT YOUR POSITION. I'M GONNA HAVE A CALL TOO. ALRIGHT? ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO THE REST OF THE COMMITTEE. I CAN SIT DOWN. ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT. ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER ON MY RIGHT BACK TO YOU, COMMISSIONER FUENTES. I, UH, MOVE TO, UH, CONTINUE THIS TWO WEEKS OUT. SECOND. ALRIGHT, THE MOTION IS BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES FOR A CONTINUANCE TO THE APRIL, SORRY, APRIL, MAY 2ND MEETING. UH, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON. ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER'S ON MY LEFT. COMMISSIONER, I'M GONNA MAKE ONE. SORRY IF THIS FOR THE APPLICANT, I WOULD SAY FOR OUR NEXT TIME YOU'D COME IN, IF YOU CAN MAYBE BRING SOME TYPE OF ILLUSTRATION, SKETCH OR SOMETHING OF SITE PLAN, WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO PROPOSE. OH, YES. JUST IT WAS JUST A PICTURE. I DIDN'T SEE IT. YES, THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. NO, THAT'S WHAT I'M PROPOSING. OKAY. CORRECT. OKAY, THANK YOU. SORRY ABOUT THAT. AND PARKING WILL BE ON SITE AS WELL, SO THERE WILL BE NO ISSUES WITH PARKING. ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. UH, TO UNDERSCORE WHAT COMMISSIONER FUENTES HAS SUGGESTED TO BOTH THE APPLICANT AND, UM, OUR PUBLIC, UH, COMMENTER. WHEN YOU COME BACK IN TWO WEEKS, REGARDLESS OF WHAT POSITION YOU'RE REPRESENTING, WHETHER PEOPLE CALL IN AND LEAVE VOICEMAILS OR IF YOU HAVE EVIDENCE OF SUPPORT THAT IT BE IN WRITING AND IT BE CLEARLY STATED WHAT THE REQUEST IS OR THE OPPOSITION IS, UM, THAT WILL BE VERY HELPFUL FOR US. UM, I ALSO WORK IN AN INNER CITY DISTRICT WHERE PEOPLE HAVE JOBS WHERE THEY CAN'T COME IN DURING THE DAY, BUT YOU CAN CERTAINLY HAVE THEM CALL IN. YOU CAN CERTAINLY HAVE THEM EMAIL AND YOU CAN CERTAINLY COLLECT PETITION OF SIGNATURES AND THE APPLICANT IN PARTICULAR, EVEN IF YOU MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF RESIDENTS THAT SURROUND THE PROPERTY IN THE PROJECT THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING. AND YOU ABSOLUTELY NEED TO GO TALK TO THE PEOPLE WITHIN 200 [03:30:01] FEET WHO ARE MOST IMPACTED. THEIRS IS THE OPINION THAT WE WILL, UM, WEIGH THE MOST. AND, UM, AS SOMEBODY WHO'S IN A SIMILAR AREA OF TOWN, UH, THERE IS, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO MAKE RECOMMENDATION TO SUPPORT SOMETHING WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS AND DON'T KNOW THAT YOU'VE GONE INTO THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU ARE CHOOSING TO BE A PART OF. UM, AND SOUGHT THEIR, UM, PERSPECTIVE, FEEDBACK AND OPINION AND BROUGHT IT BEFORE US, UM, WITH ACTUAL EVIDENCE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. COMMENTS, COMMISSIONERS. ON MY RIGHT? NONE. ALRIGHT. A MOTION IS FOR A CONTINUANCE TO THE MAY 2ND MEETING. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER FUENTES AYE. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER NICKS? YES. COMMISSIONER LU HOLLAND? YES. CHAIR SIPES? YES. ITEM PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE. ALRIGHT, SEE YOU IN TWO WEEKS. ALRIGHT, ARE WE ON ITEM 16? ITEM 16. GOOD AFTERNOON. CAMERON BLACKMAN ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER 16 IS GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE 3000 BLOCK OF WEST LOOP FOUR 10 GOING FROM OH TWO HIGH-RISE OFFICE DISTRICT TO C TWO CD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR MOTOR MOTOR VEHICLE SALES. FULL SERVICE WITH ALL OVERLAYS STAYING THE SAME. THERE WERE 25 NOTICES SENT OUT. ONE IN FAVOR, THREE OPPOSED. AND THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET. THE EXISTING O TWO HIGH RISE OFFICE DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. THE REQUESTED C TWO CD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR MOTOR MOTOR VEHICLE SALES. FULL SERVICE IS ALSO AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. THE REQUEST PROMOTES DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA AND IS MORE CONSISTENT COMMERCIAL ZONING ALONG WEST LOOP FOUR 10. ADDITIONALLY, THE CONDITIONAL USE ALLOWS CONSIDERATION OF CONDITIONS AND HOLDS THE APPLICANT TO A PRESCRIBED SITE PLAN. STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS AND RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST, THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA. SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE SEWN C TWO U COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND ARE LOCATED OFF OF LOOP FOUR 10. THERE IS SOME R FIVE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY, BUT WILL LIKELY REMAIN UNDEVELOPED DUE TO LOCATION OFF THE HIGHWAY. AND THE ESTABLISHED COMMERCIAL USES ALONG LOOP FOUR 10 STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE. THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. I'M BILL KAUFMAN WITH THE KAUFMAN GROUP, 100 WEST HOUSTON STREET, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS. AND WE'RE HERE TODAY, UH, REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT ON THIS CASE, UH, WHO IS INTEND TO BUILD A NEIGHBORHOOD STORE OR A WORLD CAR KIA DEALERSHIP ON THIS SITE. UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. UH, HERE'S AERIAL OUT. YOU CAN SEE CLOSELY THE PIN OF WHERE THE PROPERTY'S LOCATED. IT'S RIGHT NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF FREDERICKSBURG AND FOUR 10. IT'S QUITE A BUSY INTERSECTION. IT'S A COMMERCIAL INTERSECTION. MOST OF THE PROPERTIES ON THE CORNERS ARE C THREE. ADJACENT TO THE SITE IS C TWO. AND I'LL SHOW THAT IN A MINUTE. HERE'S A LITTLE CLOSEUP VIEW. UH, YOU CAN SEE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD PRINCIPALLY BEHIND THE SITE. YOU CAN SEE CROSSWORDS MALL CROSS, UH, TO THE RIGHT AND, UH, ALL THE INDUS ALL THE, UH, COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY ALONG FREDERICKSBURG AND FOUR 10. HERE'S THE ZONING MAP. UH, YOU SEE THE SITE IN QUESTION. IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED O TWO, WHICH IS AN INTENSE OFFICE USE, UH, FOR MID TO HIGH-RISE OFFICE TOWERS. AND, UH, YOU CAN SEE THE ADJACENT TO IT, THE COMMERCIAL ALONG FOUR 10. AS I SAID, IT'S HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF CARS GO BY THE SITE PER DAY. UH, THE CURRENT ZONING, AS I MENTIONED, IS O TWO. IT'S A LITTLE LESS THAN FOUR ACRES. UM, QUITE FRANKLY, THE, THE EXISTENCE OF THE O TWO WAS VERY, UH, ILLUSTRATIVE IN DEALING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION BECAUSE THE, THE NEIGHBORS BEHIND IT PREFERRED THIS PLAN TO THE CURRENT ZONING. AND I'LL GET INTO THAT IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL. UH, THE ZONING REQUEST, UH, NORMALLY A CAR DEALERSHIP WOULD BE C THREE. WE ASKED, WE WORKED WITH STAFF TO FIND THE LOWEST ZONING CLASSIFICATION OR THE LEAST INTENSE ZONING TO ACCOMMODATE, UH, THIS, UM, DEALERSHIP. AND, UH, A C TWO CD [03:35:01] WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR MOTOR VEHICLE SALES. WAS, WAS THE METHOD TO DO IT RATHER THAN GO TO C THREE, WHICH WOULD ALLOW OTHER USES. UH, THE, THE, UH, NORTH SECTOR PLAN, UH, AND FUTURE LOOSE USE PLANNED ARE COMPATIBLE WITH OUR ZONING REQUESTS. SO WE DID NOT NEED TO GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO CHANGE THAT. I'VE GOT A SERIES OF PHOTOS OF THE, THIS IS A NEW MODEL, UM, WHAT THEY CALL THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD STORES. THEY'RE REALLY DESIGNED TO BE NEAR NEIGHBORHOODS. UH, AND YOU CAN SEE THE FRONTAGE FACING FOUR 10. UM, HERE IS, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST ANOTHER ILLUSTRATION. KIND OF GO THROUGH THESE QUICK, QUICKLY. UM, THIS IS THE REAR ELEVATION. THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE WANTED TO ENSURE THERE WERE NO WINDOWS FACING THE NEIGHBORHOOD. OUR EXPERIENCE IS WHEN THERE'S A COMMERCIAL USE OR PEOPLE LOOKING IN MY BACKYARD. AND AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE BIG BUILDING, WHICH IS THE REPAIR SHOP, UH, THERE ARE NO WINDOWS AND IT'S A, A LARGE ONE STORY ABOUT 21 FEET. UM, WE'LL GO ON ANOTHER ELEVATION. I DON'T THINK THAT REALLY ADDS A LOT. AND WE WILL KEEP GOING GET THROUGH THIS. I KNOW IT'S LATE. THIS IS A, A PHOTO OF ANOTHER STORE THAT WAS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. AND YOU NOTICE THAT THE GARAGE DOOR BAYS ON EITHER SIDE. IT ENSURES THAT CARS ENTERING FOR REPAIR WORK ARE NOT ENTERING WITH OPEN BAYS FACING THE NEIGHBORHOOD. EVERYTHING'S GEARED TO THE SIDE. THE REPAIR AREA IS ENCLOSED AND AIR CONDITIONED. AND SO AGAIN, THAT'S DESIGNED TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH OTHER USES. AND HERE'S A COUPLE MORE PICTURES OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. IT'S VERY CLEAN, VERY SMALL. QUITE FRANKLY. THEY WERE TELLING US THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, NOWADAYS PEOPLE SHOP ONLINE WHEN THEY COME IN, THEY'VE ALREADY MADE AN APPOINTMENT. THEY KNOW THE CAR THEY WANT, THEY WANT TO DRIVE IT. BUT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DON'T, THE OLD DAYS WE'D GO KNOCK AND LOOK AT CARS AND LOOK UNDER THE HOODS. THEY DON'T DO THAT ANYMORE WITH C O D AND THE INTERNET. PEOPLE DO IT ONLINE. AND SO IT, YOU DON'T NEED A VERY BIG BUILDING TO DO THAT. UM, KIND OF AN OVERVIEW THAT THE TWO STORY IN FRONT, ONE STORY IN THE BACK, AS I MENTIONED, NO SERVICE BASE FACING THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY OPEN WHEN A CAR COMES IN. THEY CLOSE WHEN THE CAR'S IN. SO IT'S VERY QUIET. UH, ALTHOUGH THE ZONING ALLOWS THAT. ONE OF THE CONCESSIONS WE'VE MADE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS NO PAINT AND BODY WORK WILL BE DONE ON THIS SITE. AND WE'VE INCLUDED THAT IN OUR RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS THAT WE'VE, UH, INTEND TO FILE WHEN THIS IS DONE. AND FINALLY THAT WE, UH, AND WE'LL GO THROUGH THE LITANY OF WHAT WE'VE DONE. UM, THEY, THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS THAT THE CARS WOULD TEST DRIVE GOING THROUGH THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE'VE ENSURED THAT IS NOT GONNA HAPPEN AS WELL. UH, THIS IS KIND OF A IF YOU SEE, IT'S ONLY FITTING WHERE THE LAST AGENDA ITEM. 'CAUSE WE WERE ONE OF THE FIRST TO REACH OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD BACK IN MAY OF 22. AND WE REACHED OUT, AS WE ALWAYS DO. WE, WE TALK TO THE, UH, COUNCIL PERSON OR THE ZONING COMMISSIONER, WHO DO WE TALK TO? THEY DIRECT US TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE START THE OUTREACH WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND OVER THE COURSE OF ALMOST 11 MONTHS, PROBABLY 12 MONTHS, UM, WE'VE HAD NUMEROUS MEETINGS, PUBLIC MEETINGS, PRIVATE MEETINGS, UH, RESPONDING TO TELEPHONE CALLS FOR 10 OR 11 MONTHS. AND ONE REASON THIS IS COMING A YEAR LATER, WE COMMITTED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE WOULD NOT BRING THIS CASE FORWARD UNTIL THEY WERE READY. AND, UH, I THINK IT'S WHAT WE DO TO CREATE GOODWILL, TO LISTEN, TO INCORPORATE ALL THEIR COMMENTS INTO ONE DOCUMENT, WHICH WE'VE DONE. AND FINALLY THEY GAVE, UH, I THINK AROUND JANUARY, UH, OR IN DECEMBER, THEY SAID, GO AHEAD AND FILE IT. WE'RE FAR ENOUGH ALONG AND WE'VE REACHED, UM, I'D CALL IT A MORE THAN A HANDSHAKE AND AGREEMENT. IT'S GOTTA BE MEMORIALIZED IN A RESTRICTED COVENANT. IN ANOTHER DOCUMENT, WE HAVE ACTUALLY TWO DOCUMENTS. WE'VE SENT THAT TO THEM. THEY'RE LOOKING AT IT NOW. THEY'VE, UH, I THINK RESPONDED TO STAFF AND TO THE ZONING COMMISSIONER, THE CHAIR THAT YES, WE'RE IN, WE'RE HEAVILY INVOLVED IN THIS. AND WE, UM, UH, WE EVEN SENT OTHER THAN NOTICES, WE SENT OUR FIRM, SENT NOTICES TO THE ABUTTING PROPERTY OWNERS AND SAY, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, CALL US. UM, WE DIDN'T HEAR FROM VERY MANY, QUITE FRANKLY. WE DID HEAR FROM THEM IN PUBLIC MEETINGS, PRIVATE MEETINGS. WE REALLY, ONE WOMAN FROM MEXICO AND SHE SAID SHE WAS GONNA SEND HER A NOTICE AND SUPPORT. BUT, UH, THAT TELLS YOU WE'VE WORKED WITH, UH, NA AND LOPEZ. WHO'S THE O H C A PRESIDENT AND, UH, DISTRICT SEVEN ZONING STAFF. NEXT SLIDE. [03:40:02] AGAIN, NOT TO BE REPETITIVE, UH, RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS CONTAIN ALL THE THINGS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP IN THESE MEETINGS. WE LEARNED A LOT. IT'S REALLY INTERESTING. SECURITY OF COURSE, WAS VERY IMPORTANT. WE, WE EXPLAINED THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SECURITY CAMERAS, WE HAVE A SECURITY SERVICE AFTER HOURS, UH, JUMPING TO THE END, THE HOURS OF OPERATION, UH, SERVICE ARE AT 7:00 PM AT THE END AND SALES AT 8:00 PM BUT, UH, WE WILL HAVE A SECURITY, UH, COMPANY GO AROUND. INTERESTING ENOUGH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD DID EXPRESS CONCERNS ABOUT HEY, BRINGING THIS UP ABOUT HOMELESS PEOPLE LIVING BEHIND THEM. THERE'S HEAVILY TREAT EITHER BEHIND THEM AND ARE IN THE CREEK. AND, UH, THEY EXPRESSED CONCERN AND THEY WERE ENCOURAGING US TO GET STARTED 'CAUSE IT WOULD HELP CLEAN IT UP. IT'S A SAD SITUATION. I UNDERSTAND THEIR ISSUES, BUT, UM, WE WERE SENSITIVE. AND NEXT SLIDE. UM, WE AGREED TO LIMIT THE BUILDING HEIGHT TO TWO STORIES CURRENTLY AND UNDER THE OFFICE ZONING, IT'S NOT LIMITED AT ALL. UH, A SOLID SCREEN FENCE ALONG THE BACK AND ALONG THE SIDE. THERE'S ONE PROPERTY OWNER ON THE SIDE OF US. UH, WE ENSURED THE DOWN LIGHTING ONLY AND DIRECTED AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORHOODS. WE EVEN GOT INTO DETAILS OF L E D LIGHTING, HOW IT WOULD DO JUST TO MAKE SURE IT WOULDN'T BOTHER ANYONE. NOISE CONTROL. WE AGREED THAT THERE WOULD BE NO OUTSIDE SPEAKERS. YOU KNOW, NORMALLY YOU GO TO CAR LOT, CAR SEVEN, YOU KNOW, CAR, THERE'S SOME ANNOUNCEMENT. THERE'S GONNA BE NO OUTSIDE SPEAKERS AND NONE OF THAT AT THIS SITE. AND FINALLY, SIGNAGE WAS AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, ALONG FOUR 10. UH, AGAIN, THAT'S KIND OF IT. I'M AVAILABLE CERTAINLY FOR QUESTIONS AT THE END AND I'LL BE OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO THE TWO OR THREE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE IN OPPOSITION. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE ALL WE CAN DO. WE'VE, WE'VE DONE 10 OR 11 POINTS. WE'VE TALKED AND TALKED. ANYBODY WANTED TO TALK, WE'VE TALKED TO AND, AND LISTENED AND INCORPORATE THEIR CONCERNS. AND HOPEFULLY YOU'LL SUPPORT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, UH, IN THIS SUPPORTING THIS ZONING CASE. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. AND DO WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS CASE? WE DO. UM, WE HAVE FOUR PEOPLE HERE TO SPEAK. UH, FIRST I'VE GOT MR. CHRIS MARON, AND THEN AFTER MR. UH, MR. MORON, I HAVE MS. KATHY MORON MIGHT BE MARU. YES, RU I APOLOGIZE FOR THOSE OLD PEOPLE LIKE ME WHO REMEMBER. YEAH. UH, MY NAME IS CHRIS MARU. I, UH, LIVE AT ONE 30 NORTH HAVEN, RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. IT'S OVER IN THAT AREA. THAT'S A LITTLE TO THE LEFT. UM, COULD YOU ROLL? I SUPPOSE HOUSE HAS BEEN IN MY WIFE'S FAMILY FOR 60 YEARS NOW. IT'S ABOUT 40 YARDS FROM THE AREA THAT DEVELOPERS WANT TO TURN INTO A CAR LOT. YOU DON'T HAVE THE VIDEO? OH YEAH. OH, SORRY. I, AH, HERE WE ARE. THE LOT IS BEHIND THOSE TREES. THIS IS OUR HOUSE. IF IT THIS GOES THROUGH THE HOUSE WILL BE THE LOSING VALUE. OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, THOSE LIGHTS WILL BE ON ALL NIGHT BECAUSE OF THEFT AND SO ON. CONCERNS. IN FACT, KIA IS ONE OF THE MOST STOLEN VEHICLES IN THE COUNTRY. THEY'RE REALLY POPULAR WITH THESE. THE CATALYTIC CONVERTERS IN THEM, OF COURSE, CONTAIN PRECIOUS METALS. MY CAR IS GONNA HAVE TO BE ON THAT DRIVEWAY JUST A FEW STEPS AWAY. A CAR LOT WOULD ATTRACT EVEN MORE GRAFFITI. WE ALREADY HAVE A LITTLE, IT'S GONNA GET WORSE. BUT MY BIG QUESTION IS, IF WORLD CAR WANTS TO OPEN A KIA CAR LOT HERE, WHY DON'T THEY USE THE LAND THEY HAD FOR A SUZUKI AND A SUZU LOT LESS THAN A MILE AWAY, WHICH HAS BEEN ABANDONED FOR 20 YEARS. THE WORLD CAR SIGN IS STILL THERE. THE ASPHALT IS BEING OVERGROWN BY GRASS AND THERE'S A HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT SET UP JUST OUT OF SIGHT OF THE ACCESS ROAD. NOBODY SEEMS TO BE CLEARING THEM OUT. WHY WOULD THEY WANT TO DO THIS AGAIN? LESS THAN A MILE DOWN THE HIGHWAY. THE HOUSES IN OAK HILLS EXISTED LONG BEFORE FOUR 10 BECAME OVERCROWDED. THEY'RE DOING THEIR BEST TO KEEP THEM NICE. THE PUBLIC NUISANCE CAME TO US, NOT VICE VERSA. JUST BECAUSE WE TOLERATE SOME DEGRADATION OF THE ENVIRONMENT DOESN'T MEAN WE WANT EVEN MORE. SO PLEASE VOTE AGAINST THE REZONING OF THIS AREA. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. SORRY ABOUT THAT MR. MOREAU. I DIDN'T MEAN TO MARRO , UH, MS. KATHY MAROO FOLLOWED TO BE BY MR. JAMES BALMAN. SHE WASN'T PLANNING TO TALK. I'M SORRY, BUT MR. I DO ALL THE TALKING IN THE FAMILY. SHE'S OKAY. AFTER, UM, MR. BALMAN, [03:45:01] UM, IT'LL BE MR. PRATT. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS JAMES BAUMAN. I LIVE AT TWO 11 NORTH HAVEN. I AM ONE OF THE HOUSES THAT WOULD BE DIRECTLY BEHIND THE DEALERSHIP. UH, IN FACT, WHEN I LOOK OUT MY FRONT WINDOWS AND WALK OUT MY FRONT DOOR, I WILL BE LOOKING AT THOSE LIGHTS. I WILL BE LOOKING AT THE BACK OF THE DEALERSHIP. UM, I ALSO, LIKE MR. MARU, TOOK A VISIT OF THE OTHER PROPERTIES OWNED BY WORLD CAR, UM, WHEN I USED TO SERVE ON THE BEACON HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND I WAS ON THEIR ZED COMMITTEE. SO THIS IS NOT, NOT MY FIRST VISIT HERE AND IF I LEARNED ANYTHING FROM ZONING IS IT'S PERMANENT. AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY RELEVANT HERE BECAUSE THEY'RE ASKING TO CHANGE THIS FROM A HIGH-RISE OFFICE AIRPORT TO A COMMERCIAL. AND HE POINTED OUT SO ELOQUENTLY THAT THERE'S OTHER COMMERCIAL IN THE AREA, BUT HE LEFT OUT THE FACT THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR THE MOTOR VEHICLE OVERLAY THAT IS PERMANENT. AND WHEN YOU LOOK PARTICULARLY AT THE PICTURES THAT HE SHOWED, AND I BROUGHT SOME PICTURES AS WELL, OF THE DEALERSHIP THAT IS ACTIVELY AN OPEN DEALERSHIP THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY USING IS, IT SHOWS BROKEN SIGNS. THE MAZDA'S ALL BUSTED OUT, UH, PAINT'S PEELING OFF THE OFF THE PILLARS. UH, IT'S A DEALERSHIP IN HORRIBLE CONDITION JUST RIGHT OFF OF FREDERICKSBURG, WHICH IS, UH, IF I UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY WANNA MOVE TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, WHAT IS APPROPRIATE FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD. THE OAK HILL RESIDENTS LIVE ON THE FRONTAGE ROAD JUST EAST OF WHERE THEY'RE WANTING TO PUT THESE, UM, THIS DEALERSHIP. THERE'S HOUSES, THERE'S HOUSES FROM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT FACE, UH, FOUR 10, I'M SURE THEY WERE THERE BEFORE FOUR 10 BECAME WHAT IT IS TODAY, BUT IT'S STILL PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND HE WANTS TO PUT A DEALERSHIP SMACK DAG IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT AND ONE THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE VERY WELL MAINTAINED. AND I DON'T WANT IT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. SO IT'S NOT JUST ME HAVING TO LOOK AT THE LIGHTS. IT'S NOT JUST ME HAVING TO DEAL WITH THE EXTRA TRAFFIC. AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC, THERE IS THIS EXTENSIVE, UM, CONGESTION, PARTICULARLY AT THE FIVE O'CLOCK HOURS. YOU'RE COMING OFF THE FREEWAY COMING. I, I KNOW I'M OUT OF TIME, BUT JUST REAL, JUST REAL QUICK, THE CAR HAULERS, NOBODY'S MENTIONED THOSE, THE CAR HAULERS HAVE TO SIT IN FRONT OF THE DEALERSHIP ON THE ACCESS ROAD RIGHT THERE, WHICH WILL CONTINUALLY BROUGHT A LOT MORE TRAFFIC. THANK Y'ALL. APPRECIATE IT. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. AND LAST, UM, MR. PRATT. GOOD AFTERNOON GENTLEMEN. LADIES, I WAS BORN. I MOVED INTO OAK HILLS WHEN I WAS SIX YEARS OLD. MY FATHER, A DENTIST BUILT A FIFTH HOUSE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. OAK HILLS IS A VERY MASSIVE PLACE. WE ALSO HAVE A TWO BLOCK LONG PRIVATE PARK, WHICH WE IMMACULATELY KEEP WITH OUR BUDGET AND HAVE EVENTS AND VENUES THERE. THE LAST ONE WE HAD WAS EASTER WITH HUNDREDS OF EASTER BAG, UH, UH, CHILDREN, UH, ALL THE WAY UP TO ADULTS HUNTING FOR EASTER EGGS IN A PARK THAT, THAT'S BIG AND IT'S A HECK OF A LOT OF FUN. THE REASON I'M HERE, I, I LEFT BECAME A ROCK STAR IN THE SEVENTIES AND EIGHTIES, AND I MOVED BACK HERE ON PURPOSE 20 YEARS AGO. I BOUGHT THE HOUSE THAT MY PARENTS LIVED IN AND THAT I LIVED IN BACK FROM ANYONE WHO COULD TAKE IT FROM ME. I'VE SINCE MADE IMPROVEMENTS, YOU KNOW, UH, SOLAR NEW PLUMBING, THE WHOLE THING. BUT THE REASON I'M NOT HERE IS NOT THAT THERE ARE TWO OTHER REASONS. NUMBER ONE IS THAT I'M LITERALLY A STONE'S THROW AWAY FROM THE PEOPLE WHO RECEIVE THIS LETTER. NUMBER TWO, A MATTER OF MONTHS AGO, THESE PEOPLE CAME TO US AND WE MET THEM AT THE CHURCH AT THE END OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY PROPOSED TO US BUILDING A DEALERSHIP. WELL, I'VE OWNED A MORTGAGE COMPANY HERE IN TEXAS FOR 25 YEARS. BEFORE THEN I LENT ALSO IN CALIFORNIA AS A FULLY LICENSED MORTGAGE BROKER AND VERY DEEP INTO REAL ESTATE. I UNDERSTAND THE PERMANENCE OF A, OF A ZONING UPGRADE. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS SO HEAVILY RESIDENTIAL THAT THIS MAKES NO SENSE IN THE, IN THE WORLD. BUT AFTER I MET WITH THESE PEOPLE, I REALIZED, BOY, IF YOU'RE GONNA DO HOMEWORK, DO IT. AND YOU'RE A PRO AND YOU'RE A REALLY SUCCESSFUL PRO. SO I CALL THE PEOPLE IT AFFECTS THE MOST TEXDOT AND TEXDOT NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING MORE THAN PUT A 25 FOOT CURB CUT FOR ONE DRIVEWAY IN THAT PROPERTY. I CONTACTED THEM WHEN THEY MET US FIRST. I CONTACTED THEM THREE DAYS AGO WHEN I FOUND OUT THAT THIS, UH, HEARING WAS GOING TO HAPPEN AND I WASN'T NOTIFIED ABOUT IT. I'VE BEEN WITH DAMIKA. I PUT TOGETHER THE PLAN. WHEN THEY FIRST CAME TO US, I TOLD DAMIKA, THE PRESIDENT OF THE ASSOCIATION, MY CREDENTIALS, [03:50:01] AND THEN I WENT TO WORK AND WE NEVER HEARD A REQUEST FOR ZONING. AND THEN MONTHS LATER, ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY'VE COME UP AGAIN AND T DOTS STILL THE SAME. THEY WILL, THEY, THEY HAVE THEIR RULES. THERE'S NOTHING REALLY ON US AS CITIZENS. THE FEDS ON THE RIGHT OF WAY. AND IF YOU DRIVE THERE, I WOULD SUGGEST IT. THE LAST THING IS THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS ON A CONTROLLED ACCESS HIGHWAY. AND WE ONLY HAVE TWO STREETS IN ALMOST A MILE DOWN TO BABCOCK TO GET INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD OR OUT OF IT FROM THAT SIDE. AND THERE ARE ONLY A FEW OTHER STREETS ON ALL THE WAY OVER ON CALLAHAN ROAD. SO IN ORDER FOR THE CUSTOMERS TO GO TEST DRIVE THEIR CARS, THEY HAVE TO TAKE ONE OR TWO OF THE CUTS. AND GUESS WHAT? THOSE TWO CUTS FROM THE FREEWAY ALL COME RIGHT TO THE STOP SIGNS AT MY INTERSECTION. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS AND YOUR ENERGY. I UNDERSTAND WHAT PEOPLE HAVE TO DO ON A COMMISSION. I'VE DEALT WITH THEM FOR DECADES IN MORE THAN ONE STATE. AND, UH, I JUST CAN'T SEE THE REALITY OF THIS. AND I THINK THAT THE TDOT SITUATION IS SOMETHING YOU SHOULD TAKE A LOOK AT. OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, MR. KAUFMAN. CHANCE FOR REBUTTAL? BOY FOLLOWING CHRIS MADRE. MARU AND ROCKSTAR'S PRETTY TOUGH. AND, UH, BUT I HEAR THEM. UH, I DO REMEMBER WE LIVED THERE. YEAH, I REMEMBER THIS GENTLEMAN, UH, FROM SOME OF THE MEETINGS. UM, UH, JUST A QUICK RESPONSE ON LIGHTING. THEY TOOK SOME PICTURES OF SOME OLD DEALERSHIPS. YOU KNOW, THIS IS A NEW DEALERSHIP AND THOSE ARE OLD LIGHTING AND NONE OF THAT LIGHTING WOULD BE ALLOWED. UM, THEY'RE SPENDING MULTIMILLIONS DOLLARS TO MAKE A, UM, MAKE A NICE FACILITY. AND, AND OF COURSE THEY WANT THE NEIGHBORS TO BE, UH, CUSTOMERS SOME DAYS. SO THEY'RE VERY SENSITIVE. WE WORKED ON THE TEST DRIVES TO NOT GO THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S IN A CONTRACT BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNERS. SO WE THINK WE'VE ADDRESSED THAT. THE TXDOT, UM, ISSUES. WE HAVE NOT APPROACHED TE TDOT. THERE'S A PROCESS, AS YOU WELL KNOW WITH TIAS AND TDOT. YOU HAVE TO GET THEIR PERMISSION AND THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE BEFORE THE TRAFFIC SITUATION IS ADDRESSED BY US. UH, THERE'S 470 HOUSES THAT LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M, I WISH WE HAD EVERYONE SUPPORT. I APPRECIATE THEIR OPPOSITION. I APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY DO. BUT WE WERE DIRECTED WITH THE ASSOCIATION TO DEAL PRIMARILY, NOT EXCLUSIVELY WITH THE, THE NEIGHBORS OF BUDDING THE PROPERTY. WE ALWAYS DO THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE THE MOST AFFECTED. AND THEY TOO, A T SAID, I'D RATHER HAVE THIS PROJECT THAN AN OFFICE TOWER. AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE. AND WE'D ASK YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. UM, THIS IS A DISTRICT SEVEN CASE, SO IT'S TO ME FOR QUESTIONS. AND HOW AM I GOING TO START? UM, MR. BAUMAN HAS QUESTIONS. WELL, I, I UNDERSTAND. I UNDERSTAND. BUT IF, BUT WE GO TO THESE NEIGHBORHOODS ASSOCIATIONS AND I TALKED WITH HER AS WELL. THAT'S NOT, THAT IS NOT, THAT IS NOT THE STORY. THAT'S NOT THE STORY. OKAY. WELL, WELL THANK YOU FOR THAT. UM, I GUESS, I GUESS, UH, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS IS FOR, UM, CITY STAFF. AND THAT IS UNDER, OKAY, UNDER O TWO HEIGHT IS UNLIMITED. WHAT IS THE HEIGHT LIMIT FOR A, THE CURRENT ZONING OF C TWO? I MEAN, SORRY, IT'S CURRENTLY O TWO. WHAT WOULD BE THE HEIGHT LIMIT FOR A C TWO? I BELIEVE IT'S 45 FEET, BUT WE'RE DOUBLE CHECKING. 25, SORRY. 25 FEET. OKAY, SO 25 FEET ROUGHLY. TWO STORIES. TWO AND A HALF. UM, LET'S SEE, I THINK I'M GONNA OPEN IT UP TO FELLOW COMMISSIONERS WHILE I THINK OF OTHER QUESTIONS. SEE IF THEY HAVE ANYTHING. SO COMMISSIONER KAMATH, THANK YOU TO MY RESCUE . OH, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. MR. HUFFMAN, I'VE, I'VE KNOWN YOU FOR MANY YEARS. YES, SIR. AND, UH, THIS IS KIND OF, [03:55:03] UH, GENERAL QUESTION, BUT KIND OF APPLIES TO THIS SITUATION. THE, UH, IN THAT AREA, THERE IS A, UH, ABANDONED, UH, DEALERSHIP THAT'S, UH, I THINK CHRIS MA ROUGE JUST SHOWED US. I'M VERY MUCH AWARE OF THAT. AND UH, LIKE YOU MENTIONED THESE DAYS, PEOPLE, UH, SHOP FOR THE CARS ON THE INTERNET AND THEN JUST GO TO THE DEALERSHIP TO TEST IT OUT OR ACTUALLY LOOK AT IT. WHY DIDN'T YOUR CLIENT CONSIDER THAT AT ALL? WELL, UH, TO BE HONEST, UH, FIRST I'VE HEARD OF THAT NUMBER ONE, UH, ALL I, ALL I DID WAS LOOK AT THE PHOTO AND YOU SEE THE EXPRESSWAY OVERHEAD AND IT WAS A VIABLE LOCATION, I ASSUME BEFORE THE OVERHANG OVER FREEWAY WAS BUILT. AND THEN ONCE IT WAS BUILT, YOU CAN'T SEE IT. AND SO ALL THOSE BUSINESSES IN THERE SHUT DOWN. I DON'T KNOW IF MY CLIENT OWNS IT OR NOT. I HEARD, I HEARD THE GENTLEMAN SAY THAT I COULD CHECK, BUT THEY'VE NEVER MENTIONED IT AT ALL. IF THEY STILL OWN IT OR WHO OWNS IT, I HAVE NO IDEA. NOW I'VE BEEN TO THEIR OTHER DEALERSHIPS THAT ARE OPEN AROUND THE CITY. THEY'RE VERY NICE. THEY'RE BUILDING A REALLY NICE BIG ONE ON THE SOUTH SIDE. IT'S GORGEOUS. UH, YEAH, WE'VE SEEN, UH, I'VE SEEN SEVERAL OF THE WORLD CAR YEAH. UH, DEALERSHIPS. THEY ARE IN A REAL GOOD, UH, DESIGN AND DESIRABLE SPACES. YES, SIR. BUT I'M JUST KIND OF CURIOUS ABOUT THAT. YEAH, I'M, I'M SORRY THAT HAPPENED. I DIDN'T KNOW IT. I'LL, AND I'LL CERTAINLY INQUIRE, BUT THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER KAMATH. ANY OTHER, ANY QUESTIONS? OTHER COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? COMMISSIONER ON COMMISSIONER, WE THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. UH, QUESTION FOR MR. KAUFMAN. SIR, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT, UH, IN YOUR PLANS FOR THESE, UH, THIS FACILITY, THERE WON'T BE ANY PAINT OR BODY WORK TO BE DONE. YES. YES, SIR. UH, WHAT MECHANICAL WORK COULD BE DONE ON PREMISE? JUST NORMAL REPAIR, YOU KNOW, LUBE JOB AND MOTOR WORK AND THAT. BUT AGAIN, THE, THE NOXIOUS FUMES AND THINGS AND NOISE COMES FROM BODY WORK AND PAINT WORK. AND THAT'S WHY THAT WAS SIGNIFICANT. AS I MENTIONED, IT IS ALLOWED IN THE ZONING WE'RE ASKING FOR, BUT WE'VE AGREED WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS THAT WOULD PREVENT IT. AND SO THE, AS I MENTIONED, THE REPAIR SHOP IS ENCLOSED AND THERE IS SOUNDPROOF AND THERE'LL BE NO, NO, UH, REALLY SOUND COMING FROM THE SITE. THAT'S THE WAY THEY'RE DESIGNED. RIGHT. SO YOU'RE STILL GONNA HAVE THEMATIC TOOLS. OH, I'M SURE. RIGHT? YES, SIR. OH YEAH, I'M SURE. SO IN THE BACK FACING THE, UM, THE RESIDENCE, THAT'S WHEN YOU HAVE THE SOLID WALL, BUT ON THE SIDE IS WHEN YOU HAVE THE GARAGE DOORS YEAH. OPEN AND CLOSE. RIGHT. WHICH THEY'VE ASSURED WHAT, WHICH THE AGREEMENT IS THEY REMAIN CLOSED DURING HOURS. IF THEY NEED A CAR TO COME IN, IT OPENS, THE CAR COMES IN AND THEN THEY CLOSE IT. SO, SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND, UM, WITH THE HOUSE ON THE AXI THAT THAT'S ON THE FRONTAGE ROAD. WHAT KIND OF FENCING WERE YOU GONNA HAVE A BARRIER BETWEEN THAT? UH, WE, WE'VE PROPOSED A SIX FOOT SOLID FENCING. THAT'S ALL WE'RE REALLY ALLOWED TO DO, UH, HEIGHT ALONG THE REAR AND ALONG THE SIDE, YOU KNOW, IF, UH, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF FENCING ISSUES, IF SOMEONE WANTED A DIFFERENT KIND OF FENCE WROUGHT IRON, WE WOULD, BUT IT WOULDN'T PROVIDE THE VISUAL, YOU KNOW, PROTECTION AND THE SOUND BARRIER, SO TO SPEAK. SO IT'S A SOLID SCREEN FENCE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. UH, AND I DID HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION FOR STAFF, AND THAT IS FOR, UM, UH, A BUFFER BETWEEN C TWO AND RESIDENTIAL, WHAT WILL BE REQUIRED? IT'S A 15 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER THAT'S REQUIRED, AND THEN THEY HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST A MINIMUM, A SIX FOOT FENCE, UH, THAT CAN BE INCREASED TO AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE. OKAY. UH, COMMISSIONER WATSON, UM, THIS IS A QUESTION FOR STAFF. CAN YOU PLEASE REMIND US WHETHER WE HAVE A LETTER SUBMITTED FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION SUPPORT AND WHAT THE COUNTS ARE, INCLUDING THE OPPOSITION WE HEARD TODAY? IF YOU DON'T MIND? YEAH, THAT'S, IT'S A WEIRD, UH, NOTED THAT THERE IS NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET FOR THIS PROPERTY. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, WELL, I GUESS IT WILL BE BACK TO ME FOR A MOTION. [04:00:01] AND WE DO HAVE A LETTER FROM THE H O A, I MEAN, THE HO OKAY. COMMUNITY. OKAY. AND, AND I HAVE SEEN CORRESPONDENCE AND I'M TRYING TO TALK AND SEARCH EMAIL TO FIND CORRESPONDENCE AND NOT DOING A VERY GOOD JOB. UM, BUT WE HAVE THE EMAIL UP ON THE SCREEN FOR THOSE. OH, THANK YOU. INTERESTED. AND, AND MR. KAUFMAN, I I I, I RECOGNIZE THAT YOU AND, AND YOUR FIRM HAS HAVE BEEN INVOLVED. I KNOW WE'VE TALKED A COUPLE TIMES. I KNOW THAT IT'S BEEN MONTHS SINCE THE FIRST TIME THAT WE TALKED, UM, AND I, I'VE, I'VE BEEN COPIED ON THE EMAILS BETWEEN THE, THE, UM, OAK HILLS. BUT AT THIS TIME, AND I HATE TO DO THIS, I'M GONNA ASK FOR A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE JUST SO THAT WE CAN HAVE ANOTHER SHOT AT MORE CORRESPONDENCE AND, AND, UM, GIVE THE, THE, UH, I'M GONNA REACH OUT TO THE, THE STAFF AT THE D SEVEN OFFICE BECAUSE I FEEL THAT THEY MAY HAVE BEEN UNAWARE OF SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE OPPOSITION TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO, UM, TO, TO POSSIBLY MITIGATE, UM, WELL, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, CHAIR, OBVIOUSLY, WHATEVER YOU WANT. WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA DO, YOU KNOW, WHEN OBJECTIONS ARE, WE DON'T WANT IT. IT'S PRETTY HARD. THERE'S NO NEGOTIATION. I I, AND SO WHAT THEY TOLD US, THE, THE, UM, DEMETRI TOLD US IS, LOOK, I I REPRESENT 470 OR NOT, I DON'T REPRESENT ALL OF 'EM. THERE'RE 470 HOUSES. IT'S A VOLUNTARY ASSOCIATION. SHE SAID, HAVE AS MANY MEETINGS AS YOU CAN LISTEN TO THE ABUTTING PROPERTY OWNERS. THEY'LL BE, WON'T GET A HUNDRED PERCENT. THEY TOLD US, AND WE SAID UNTIL THE, UNTIL YESTERDAY, WE DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS ANY OPPOSITION. OKAY? SO WHEN WE CAME TODAY, WE EXPECTED A DIFFERENT RESULT. BUT I DO APPRECIATE WHATEVER REASON THEIR OBJECTION. BUT IF THE OBJECTIONS ARE, I DON'T WANT IT, WHAT'S GONNA CHANGE? NO. AND, AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT. I THINK WHAT WILL WILL CHANGE IS THAT I THINK, UM, AND THAT SOME OF THE RESTRICTIONS, THE COVENANT RESTRICTIONS THAT WE, THAT THE CITY, NOT, NOT WE, 'CAUSE WE AREN'T CITY, BUT THE, THE CITY DOES NOT ENFORCE COVENANT RESTRICTIONS. BUT SINCE IT'S A CD, WE CAN PUT INTO CORRECT THE LANGUAGE. AND I THINK YES, WE COULD WAIT, AND I, I, I TALKED WITH, UH, ZONING STAFF AND THEY WERE FINE ABOUT DOING THAT AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL, BUT I THINK IT WOULD HELP IF, YOU KNOW, WE COULD HAVE SOME TIME, IT'LL GIVE ME TIME TO TALK WITH OAK HILLS AND SEE WHAT EXACT ITEMS WE CAN TAKE FROM THE RESTRICTIONS PUT INTO THE, UH, THE CD LANGUAGE. THAT WAY THAT THERE'S LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE TEETH IN, IN EFFECT. SO, UM, AT THIS TIME, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION FOR A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. MOTIONS TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE BY ME. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON. DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER WATSON. UH, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SIPES. UM, I APPRECIATE THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS COMING HERE AND DOING SUCH A GOOD JOB OF BRINGING EVIDENCE, UM, AND DOCUMENTING, UM, YOUR CONCERNS. UH, AND ALSO MENTIONING WHERE EXACTLY AND PRECISELY YOU LIVE, BECAUSE YOU WILL BE AMONG THOSE NEIGHBORS MOST DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY THIS. UM, I APPRECIATE THE INTENSE EFFORTS THAT, UM, MR. KAUFMAN HAS EXPRESSED, UH, IN TRYING TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AS SOMEBODY WHO LIVES IN A VOLUNTARY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, IT CAN BE DIFFICULT TO ENSURE, UH, THAT YOU REACH EVERYONE AND THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS REPRESENTATIVE OF, UM, THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, SPECIFICALLY THOSE MOST AFFECTED. UH, THE LETTER THAT WAS PRESENTED, UM, FROM DAMIKA DOES NOT GIVE A CLEAR INDICATION ONE WAY OR ANOTHER OF SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION. AND I AM NOT PERSUADED BY AN ASSURANCE THAT PERHAPS THERE MAY BE SUPPORT OR A PREFERENCE FOR, UM, A COMMERCIAL ZONING OR THIS PARTICULAR KIND OF ZONING, UM, AS OPPOSED TO THE HIGH RISE OFFICE. BASED ON THE COMMENTS HEARD TODAY, I STILL HAVE OUTSTANDING QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT EXACTLY WAS PRESENTED TO THE COMMUNITY THAT I WOULD PREFER CLARIFIED. UM, I DO APPRECIATE [04:05:01] THE, UH, AMOUNT OF RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS IN THE WILLINGNESS TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY. I THINK THAT IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO REACH CONSENSUS. AND AS IS ALWAYS THE CASE, AND SOMETIMES IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING AS A COMMISSIONER, PRIVATE PROPERTY IS PRIVATE PROPERTY. AS A ZONING COMMISSION, WE CANNOT PREVENT DEVELOPMENT FROM OCCURRING, SHOULD THAT BE THE PREFERENCE. UM, BUT WHAT WE CAN DO IS ENSURE THAT ZONING, WHICH OFTEN LASTS LONGER THAN MARRIAGE IS, AND CERTAINLY LONGER THAN MOST OF OUR LIVES, UM, IS SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDS, UH, THAT WE MAKE THE BEST POSSIBLE DECISION FOR ALL STAKEHOLDERS. AND THAT IT REFLECTS THE POLICY GOALS, UM, THAT MANY, MANY PUBLIC INPUT PROCESSES GO INTO AS THE U D C IS UPDATED AND REFINED, AND AS REGIONAL PLANS ARE ADOPTED. UM, AND I AM NOT CONVINCED WITH WHAT WAS PRESENTED TODAY THAT THERE WAS ADEQUATE, UM, COMMUNICATION THAT WAS CLEAR. UM, AND I WOULD'VE BEEN MORE INCLINED TO SUPPORT THIS IF I SAW WRITTEN EVIDENCE OF SUPPORT FROM THE PEOPLE IMMEDIATELY WITHIN THE 200 FEET. UM, OR A CLEAR STATEMENT OF SUPPORT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. UH, WE AREN'T TECHNICALLY SUPPOSED TO COMMENT ON RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS AS ZONING COMMISSIONERS BECAUSE WE HAVE NO POWER TO ENFORCE THOSE. IT'S NOT TECHNICALLY PART OF THE REZONE. THE CITY DOESN'T TECHNICALLY HAVE THE POWER TO ENFORCE THEM EITHER. UM, AND SO A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS ONLY GOING TO BE ABLE TO, UM, HAVE ASSURANCE THAT THAT'S THE CASE IF THEY CAN AFFORD THE , UH, SHOULD SOMETHING COME UP IN THE FUTURE WHERE THOSE RESTRICTION, RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS ARE VIOLATED. AND SO I NEED TO SEE, UM, SIGNIFICANTLY MORE CLEAR EVIDENCE OF SUPPORT AND WANNA HEAR SPECIFICALLY FROM THE NEIGHBORS WITHIN 200 FEET WHAT THEIR OPINION IS BEFORE I WOULD BE WILLING TO MAKE A DECISION ON THIS CASE. UM, I DO APPRECIATE THE GREAT DESIGN, UM, AND THE EFFORT TO, FOR COMMUNITY OUTREACH, BUT THAT'S WHAT I WOULD BE LOOKING FOR, UM, AT THE NEXT HEARING, AND THAT'S WHY I'M SUPPORTING THE MOTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER WATSON. I'M GONNA HAVE TO TRANSCRIBE YOUR COMMENTS AS WELL. UM, DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER KENNETH? UH, I, I KIND OF ECHO, UH, COMMISSIONER WATSON'S COMMENTS. AND, UH, I JUST WANT TO THANK, UH, THE CITIZENS WHO HAVE BEEN HERE, UH, FOR TODAY, WAITING FOR THE LAST, UH, CASE FOR THE DAY. UM, AND ALSO APPRECIATE, UH, MR. KAUFMAN, UH, PRESENTING THE CASE. AND HE HAS DONE SEVERAL FOR SEVERAL YEARS IN SAN ANTONIO, SIMILAR CASES. AND HE, I'VE SEEN IN OUR DISTRICT, UH, HE HAS TAKEN TIME JUST LIKE THIS FOR SEVERAL MONTHS TO MEET WITH THE, UM, NEIGHBORS AND ASSOCIATIONS AND COMES THROUGH. UH, I WISH BOTH PARTIES WILL COME TO AN AGREEMENT IN TWO WEEKS AND WE WILL HAVE A SUCCESSFUL CONCLUSION OF THIS CASE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER KAMATH. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? LEFT DISCUSSION. IS THERE ANY WAY, RIGHT JUST SLIGHTLY LONGER BECAUSE THERE IS SIGNIFICANT OPPOSITION IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. OH, IT'S A LARGE, WE JUST NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO PUT OUR RESOURCES TOGETHER. TWO WEEKS IS, IS PRETTY SHORT TIME OF MOST OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT I TALKED TO THAT WERE IN OPPOSITION DID NOT GET THE NOTICE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT WITHIN THAT VALUE. THERE'S VERY FEW HOUSES THAT GOT THAT. MR. CHAIR, IF YOU'RE GONNA ENTERTAIN HIS COMMENTS, HE NEEDS TO COME TO THE MIC. UH, WELL, I, I'LL I'LL BASICALLY SUM UP. HE'S, HE'S ASKING IF THE CONTINUANCE COULD BE LARGER. UM, AT THIS POINT, LET, LET'S START WITH TWO WEEKS. LET'S SEE WHAT WE CAN DO. UM, THE MOTION IS FOR TWO WEEKS. CONTINUANCE. MOTION BY ME. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON. ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. CHAIR SIPES? YES. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER FUENTES. AYE. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YEAH. AYE. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER NICKS? YES. COMMISSIONER ITEM PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. WE'LL SEE YOU IN TWO WEEKS. IT'LL BE HIGHER UP ON THE AGENDA, RIGHT? YES. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR DILIGENCE. WE'LL, I'LL GET A NOTIFICATION, WELL, WE WON'T HAVE A REIFICATION, BUT IT WILL BE IN TWO WEEKS SINCE, SINCE Y'ALL WERE HERE. IT'S IN TWO WEEKS. WHAT I MEAN IS HOW WILL WE KNOW WHAT TIME YOU'RE HERE TODAY? AND YOU HEARD THAT IT'S GONNA BE ON MAY 2ND AND IT WILL BE HERE IN CHAMBERS AT 1:00 PM THERE'S NOT A A NOTICE THAT GOES OUT TO THE PUBLIC FOR THAT SECOND AT 1:00 PM YES. HERE. YES SIR. YES. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. AND WE HAVE I BELIEVE [Approval of Minutes] MINUTES. SO ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR MINUTES. MOTION. I MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETING. I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE ARE ANY AMENDMENTS THOUGH. THAT'S WHY I DON'T USUALLY MAKE THE MOTION FOR THIS. THERE ARE . I, I BELIEVE THE ONES THAT WE HAVE IN OUR PACKET ARE THE CORRECTED ONES. SO, OKAY. MOTION [04:10:01] IS FOR APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OH, 1 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. OH, DANG IT. HOLD ON. NOT EVERYONE CAN ABSTAIN. 1, 2, 3, 4. AS LONG AS IT'S A MAJORITY ON ON MINUTES. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. WE'RE GOOD THEN. YEAH. ABSTENTIONS BY COMMISSIONER KAMATH. AND COMMISSIONER, WE ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE A DIRECTOR'S REPORT? WE DON'T. VIBA FIESTA. ENJOY THE WEEKS TO COME. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL. I'M. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.