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[Work Session 12:30 PM: Presentation and Discussion of the Westwood Square large area rezoning. Staff briefing regarding case recommendations and other items for consideration on the posted agenda. Commissioners may direct questions to staff regarding items noticed on the posted agenda or regarding City of San Antonio policies or operations in order to elicit a response of specific factual information or a recitation of existing policy pursuant to Section 551.042 of the Texas Government Code.]
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF WE COULD START OFF BY HAVING OUR SPANISH TRANSLATION SERVICES STATEMENT, PLEASE.GOOD AFTERNOON, THE INTERPRET.
AND I BELIEVED WE STILL HAVE MASKS, DON'T WE? YES, IF Y'ALL WOULD, IF ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WOULD, UM, LIKE A MASK, WE DO STILL HAVE MASKS AVAILABLE IN THE CORNER OVER THERE, SO THANK YOU.
I AM THE CHAIR OF THE ZONING COMMISSION FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT SEVEN ZONING COMMISSIONER.
I HEREBY CALL THIS REGULARLY NOTICED MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION INTO SESSION.
I'D LIKE TO, TO DO A ROLL CALL BY ALLOWING THE, UH, ZONING COMMISSIONERS TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, STARTING WITH THE COMMISSIONER ON MY FAR LEFT.
UH, MARCO BARROS, UH, DISTRICT NINE.
GOOD AFTERNOON, SIR KAMATH, DISTRICT FOUR, JOHN BUSTAMONTE, DISTRICT FIVE AL DOT DISTRICT EIGHT, TAYLOR WATSON, DISTRICT TWO.
SUMMER GRADE HOUSE DISTRICT ONE.
CHARLES FUENTES FOR DISTRICT THREE
WOULD EVERYONE PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
PRIOR TO COMMENCING OUR HEARING, I WOULD LIKE OUR STAFF TO REVIEW OUR MEETING, BENEFIT OUR MEETING FORMAT, EXCUSE ME, FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE STAFF.
BEFORE I BEGIN, PLEASE TURN YOUR PHONES ON VIBRATE OR TURN THEM OFF.
THE ZONING COMMISSION IS AN 11 MEMBER BODY APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ZONING CASES UPON RECEIVING A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION.
YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO FORWARD YOUR CASE TO CITY COUNCIL.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PROCEDURE, PLEASE CONTACT YOUR CASE MANAGER.
STAFF WILL BEGIN EACH CASE WITH A SHORT PRESENTATION OF THE REQUEST.
PART OF THE PRESENTATION INCLUDES A MAP THAT SHOWS THE AREA TO BE CONSIDERED FOR REZONING AND PROPERTY WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT.
PROPERTY CHECK MARKS INDICATE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND AN X INDICATES THOSE IN OPPOSITION.
FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION AND ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION, THE APPLICANT WILL PRESENT THEIR REQUEST FOR THOSE THAT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE PROPOSED REZONING.
YOU WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THAT YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
THOSE IN SUPPORT IN OPPOSITION WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER AND YOU'RE NOT OBLIGATED TO UTILIZE THE MAXIMUM TIME LIMITATION.
YOU WILL BE INFORMED WHEN YOUR THREE MINUTES ARE UP.
FOR THOSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEIR TIME TO A SPEAKER, THAT SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO PEOPLE GIVING THEIR TIME FOR A TOTAL OF NINE MINUTES.
THOSE GIVING THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AND SIGNED UP TO SPEAK AND MUST YIELD THEIR TIME BEFORE THE SPEAKER GOES TO THE PODIUM.
THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A REBUTTAL LIMITED TO ONE SPEAKER WITH A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT ALONG WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSION QUESTIONS.
STAFF, IF WE COULD PLEASE GO OVER ANY WITHDRAWN OR POSTPONED ITEMS, ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN POSTPONED.
WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER ONE LOCATED AT 5 5 0 9 SAN PEDRO AVENUE AND ITEM NUMBER TWO LOCATED AT 2 2 5 BLAINE STREET.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU ARE HERE FOR THE PROPERTIES AT 55 0 9 SAN PEDRO OR 2225 BLAINE STREET, THOSE ITEMS HAVE BEEN POSTPONED AND WE WILL NOT BE HEARD OR HEARD TODAY AND NO ACTION WILL BE TAKEN.
UM, AND YOU WILL BE RE NOTIFIED BEFORE ANY FUTURE ACTION OCCURS.
SO YOU ARE FREE TO GO AND ENJOY THE REST OF THE DAY.
STAFF, IF WE COULD NOW GO OVER THE
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LIST OF ITEMS ON THE COMBINED AGENDA ITEMS FOR CONSENT.WE HAVE ITEMS NUMBER 3, 5 11, 14, 15, 16, AND 18.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, ANY OF THESE ITEMS YOU WOULD
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LIKE TO PULL DOWN FOR ONE OF THE OTHER LOOKING LEFT? SEEING NONE, LOOKING RIGHT, SEEING NONE.UM, STAFF, IF WE COULD PLEASE READ THOSE ITEMS INTO THE RECORD.
ITEM NUMBER THREE IS A CHANGE IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FOUR CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO DWELLING RESIDENTIAL TO R FOUR CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 3 41 AND 3 43 AVONDALE AVENUE, AVONDALE AVENUE 31 NOTICES WERE SENT.
ZERO IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED AND NO RESPONSE FROM THE HOT WELLS MISSION REACH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND WE DO HAVE AN AMENDED SITE PLAN.
ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM RMM FOUR TO IDZ TWO WITH USES PERMITTED FOR SIX DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
ZERO OPPOSED DENVER HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED.
ITEM NUMBER 11 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO R SIX SS WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR MANUFACTURED HOME WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
ZERO RETURNED IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
ITEM NUMBER 14 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM I ONE TWO L WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 42 44 CENTER GATE STREET, 10 NOTICES WERE SENT.
ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS WITHIN 200 FEET.
ITEM NUMBER 15 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FOUR TO R FOUR CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 6 0 1 AVONDALE AVENUE.
AND HIGHLAND HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT.
ITEM NUMBER 16 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C TWO AND C THREE R TO C TWO SS WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR UTILITIES SOLAR BATTERY STORAGE WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE 8,800 BLOCK OF MARBACH ROAD.
AND RAINBOW HILLS AREA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR.
AND ITEM NUMBER 18 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM RD AND C THREE TO C THREE WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE 11,200 BLOCK OF INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 35 SOUTH.
UM, AGAIN, GENERALLY LOCATED AT 11,200 BLOCK OF INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 35 SOUTH 10 NOTICES WERE SENT.
AND NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
AND IF WE COULD NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT COMMISSIONER NICKS JOINED THE MEETING AT ONE 10.
UH, AND WITH THAT, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THESE ITEMS? THERE IS NONE.
ALRIGHT,
WOULD THAT MOTION INCLUDE THE AMENDED SITE PLAN FOR ITEM THREE? YES.
IS THERE, OH, I KEEP FORGETTING.
UM, ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.
ALRIGHT, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEMS THREE WITH THE AMENDED SITE PLAN.
MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES, IF WE COULD GET A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.
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PASSES.LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU ARE HERE FOR ANY OF THOSE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, THOSE ITEMS WILL NOW BE MOVING ON TO CITY COUNCIL.
SO YOU ARE FREE TO ENJOY THE REST OF YOUR DAY.
WE'RE NOW GONNA BE MOVING ON TO OUR CONTINUANCE HEARING, SO IF WE COULD READ THOSE ITEMS PLEASE.
ITEMS FOR CONTINUANCE TO MAY 16TH, 2023.
UM, A CHA REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO I D Z ONE WITH USES PERMITTED IN NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND THREE DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT THREE 11 EAST ASHBY PLACE, 41 NOTICES SENT ONE IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED AND NO RESPONSE FROM TOBIN HILL COMMUNITY OR MONTE VISTA.
HISTORICAL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.
ITEM NUMBER 10 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FIVE TO R FIVE CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE LOCATED AT 51 18 VANCE JACKSON ROAD 2027 NOTICES WERE SENT.
THREE OPPOSED AND NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
OUTSIDE 200 FEET THERE WERE 114 OPPOSED.
AND COLONIAL HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS ALSO OPPOSED.
ITEM NUMBER 17 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FOUR TO I D Z TWO WITH USES PERMITTED FOR 64 DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 8 35 GILLETTE BOULEVARD.
TWO OPPOSED AND NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
ITEM NUMBER 19 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R M FOUR TO I D Z ONE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS LOCATED AT 1 22.
I'M SORRY, WITH USES PERMITTED FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 1 22 SANDERS STREET.
AND NO RESPONSE FROM DENVER HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND WE DO HAVE VOICEMAILS AND SPEAKERS.
FIRST ITEM NUMBER 17, WAS THAT MOVING TO CONSENT OR WAS I MEAN, MOVING TO THE CONTINUANCE OR WAS THAT MOVING TO INDIVIDUAL? IT WAS, THEY REQUESTED RIGHT BEFORE THE MEETING TO MOVE IT TO CONTINUANCE.
ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD, UM, HAVE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PLEASE.
VOICEMAILS FIRST, I, I'M GUESSING I LIVE AT EIGHT FORTY SIX GILLETTE.
MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 843-4458.
I DO NOT WANT APARTMENT COMPLEX NEAR MY HOUSE.
I DON'T WANNA HAVE TO DO WITH THE TRAFFIC AND THE VERMIN LIKE WRAPS AND FILL MICE THAT WILL COME OUT, WELL, WILL COME OUT OF THE FIELD WHEN YOU DO ALL THAT CONSTRUCTION.
BUT THE LAST YEAR, MY CASE NUMBER IS 0 8 0 2.
HELLO? YES, THIS IS MR. JERRY GAYWOOD, THE OWNER AT 8 51 GILLETTE, UH, SEVEN EIGHT TWO TWO FOUR WITH THE PHONE NUMBER (210) 815-9628.
AND I'M CALLING IN REGARDS OF THE CASE NUMBER ENDING AT 0 8 2.
UM, TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I OPPOSE THIS, UH, ZONING RIGHT.
AND I'M ALSO ASKING FOR A CONTINUANCE BECAUSE THERE'S NO TIME, NO OPPORTUNITY FOR ME OR OTHERS TO DISCUSS THIS MATTER, RIGHT? IT SEEMS LIKE IT WANTS TO GET SWIFTLY DONE FOR WHATEVER PURPOSE.
UM, SO I AM REQUESTING, I'M HOPING THAT WE GET A CONTINUANCE ON THIS HEARING.
UM, AND ALSO, UM, UH, I OPPOSE IT BECAUSE THE, YOU, IT'S GONNA INCREASE THE RATS AND ROADS COMING INTO MY YARD, WHICH I ALREADY GOT RID OF LOT OF, UH, TRAPS TO GET RID OF THESE ANIMALS.
NOW IT'S GONNA BE MORE, AND THE POSSUMS AND LOT OF SNAKES ARE THE HEIGHT, UH, CONCENTRATION OF ANIMALS AND THERE ARE SNAKES AND RACCOONS AND WHATEVER OTHER, YOU KNOW, SCORPIONS, WHATEVER OTHER THAT'S IN THERE, LORD.
AND I DON'T WANT THAT IN MY YARD.
AND ONCE YOU START CLEARING UP, IT'S GONNA COME TO MY YARD, THEN HOW'S THAT GONNA BENEFIT ME? AND BESIDES THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVING THESE DUPLEXES IN THE BACK SEAT, IT CAUSE HIGH TRAFFIC ON ALREADY BUSY ALAMO DRIVEWAY STREET ON GILLETTE, RIGHT? BECAUSE EVERYBODY DRIVES FAST AND YOU PULL MORE PEOPLE IN THERE, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL MORE HUNDRED PEOPLE IN ONE LITTLE DENSITY AREA COMING IN AND OUT OF THAT ONE, UH, UH, UH, UH, UM,
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THAT ONE EMPTY EMPTY LOCK MAN, IT'S GONNA BE RIGHT THERE, RIGHT THERE.A COUPLE OF STREETS, UH, COUPLE OF, UH, HOUSES DOWN FROM MY HOUSE AND EVERYBODY LIKE COMING IN AND OUT.
THEY GONNA HAVE HEAVY, HEAVY ACTIVITY ON THE SIDEWALK GOING TO THE STORE, WHATEVER, GOING AND COMING.
LIKE, MAN, IT'S GONNA BE LIKE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE BE WALKING BY MY HOUSE ALL THE TIME, MAN.
AND YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE ALREADY HAVE, THEFT IS HIGH AND BURGLARY IS HIGH, RIGHT.
DRUG ACTIVITY IS HIGH IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND, YOU KNOW, DRUG TRAFFICKING IS HIGH IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IF IT'S GOING TO EVEN GET WORSE WITH THE INCREASE OF HIGH DENSITY PEOPLE IN, IN THAT AREA.
YOU KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, I I I SPOKE WITH, UH, ONE OF THE DEVELOPERS AND HE SAID IT'S NOT GONNA BENEFIT ANYBODY OF US.
YOU KNOW, 20 PERSON GONNA DEVELOPERS.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS SIGNED UP? YES, WE DO.
UM, WE HAVE ONE FOR ITEM NUMBER NINE, UM, MR. RICHARD GARCIA.
ALL RIGHT, MR. GARCIA, NUMBER FOUR.
SOMEONE WROTE NUMBER NINE NEXT TO IT.
SO WE'RE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 10.
I HAVE MS. ALEJANDRA VILLAREAL.
MS. VIAL, IF YOU COULD JUST GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE.
I REC RESIDE AT 27 19 CASTANE NET, WHICH IS THE NEXT STREET OVER FROM THIS PARTICULAR HOUSE IN QUESTION.
WE ARE SOME OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT, UM, THAT DELIVERED A LARGE NUMBER OF PETITIONS AND SIGNATURES FROM NOT, NOT ONLY PEOPLE IN OUR DIRECT AREA, BUT PEOPLE UP AND DOWN VANCE JACKSON BECAUSE THIS PARTICULAR CASE IMPACTS ALL OF US.
THIS PARTICULAR CASE IMPACTS ALL OF THE PEOPLE UP AND DOWN THE STREET.
THERE'S NO COMMERCIAL OR OFFICE USE ANYWHERE BETWEEN JACKSON, KELLER AND OAK GATE, I BELIEVE, WHICH IS THE STREET RIGHT BEFORE WARBUCK.
SO THAT ENTIRE AREA IS EXCLUSIVELY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE.
NOW, NOT ONLY THAT, BUT THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE USING THIS HOUSE RIGHT NOW AS AN OFFICE, THEY'RE USING IT RIGHT NOW AS AN OFFICE EXCLUSIVELY.
THERE'S NO ONE THERE ON THE WEEKENDS.
AND THERE IS AT LEAST 14 TO 17 CARS THERE AT A, AN EVERY DAY.
SO THAT THEY HAVE MADE A HUGE PARKING LOT, NOT ONLY A PAVED PARKING LOT, BUT THERE'S ALSO A GRAVEL, A GRAVEL AREA WHERE THEY PARK.
I HAVE PHOTOGRAPHS IF ANYBODY'S INTERESTED IN LOOKING AT THEM.
THE, THEY USE THIS ADDRESS ON THEIR WEBSITE.
SO I MEAN, THEY ARE THERE, THEY DON'T HAVE A SIGN, BUT THE ONLY THING THEY DON'T HAVE IS A SIGN BECAUSE THEIR TRUCKS THAT THEY HAVE IN THERE HAS THEIR NAME ON IT.
WE NOT ONLY HOPE THAT YOU WILL DENY THIS INTRUSION INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, BUT WE'RE REALLY OBJECTING TO THE CONTINUANCE AND OUR, THE NEIGHBORS THAT CAME, THIS IS THE SECOND TIME WE'VE ALL COME.
IF THE NEIGHBORS COULD JUST, YEAH, THERE THEY ARE.
WE'VE, AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE, AND WE'LL COME AGAIN AND WE'LL BRING MORE PEOPLE IF WE HAVE TO, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE OBJECTING TO THIS WHOLE THING.
NEXT WE HAVE MS. JULIE BARTLETT.
I'M GIVING UP MY TIME TO ANOTHER SPEAKER.
WHO ARE YOU GIVING YOUR TIME TO? TO DAVID.
HI, MY NAME'S DAVID ARIANO AND I ALSO RESIDE ON CASTANET.
AND TO BE QUITE HONEST, I'M JUST, UH, REALLY CONFUSED AT WHAT'S GOING ON BECAUSE I DIDN'T MAKE THE LAST MEETING.
UM, WE UNDERSTAND THEY HAVE A WEBSITE AND THEY'VE SET UP MY GOOGLE BUSINESS.
THEY'RE A BUSINESS FULL FLEDGED.
AND YOU GUYS ARE GONNA MAKE THE DECISION YOU MAKE.
MY OWN QUESTION IS, WHO DO I TALK TO ABOUT THE GUY GOING AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD TALKING TO EVERYONE ABOUT CONCESSIONS? 'CAUSE HE'S, THERE'S CERTAIN PEOPLE GOT INVITED TO AN OPEN HOUSE.
I THINK IT WAS TWO PEOPLE AND IT HAD AN R S V P.
SO WE CALLED TO FIND OUT HOW WE GET INVOLVED INVOLVED AND JUST KIND OF MEET THEM AND FIND OUT WHAT THEIR DESIRES ARE.
BUT THEN IN THE END, WE'VE CERTAIN NEIGHBORS WALKING DOWN THE STREETS, I TALKED TO THEM, THEY'RE READY TO DO THINGS FOR US.
IT'S LIKE, WELL, YOU KNOW, I, NOT THAT I WANT ANYTHING DONE FOR US, I'D RATHER THEM NOT BE THERE TO BE CLEAR.
WE DON'T WANT YOU GUYS TO APPROVE IT.
BUT IN THE MEANTIME, IF THERE'S A GAME BEING PLAYED, HOW DO WE LEVEL THIS PLAYING FIELD? AND EVERYONE GET INVITED TO THE OPEN HOUSE? EVERYONE GET THE PAYOFF, EVERYONE GET WHATEVER THEY ARE PROMISING.
OTHERS, I THINK THAT WOULD BE MAYBE SOMETHING WE'D WANNA LOOK AT.
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THEY CONTINUE IT, IF THEY'VE GOT TWO WEEKS OF GOING OUT AND HANDING OUT FAVORS, I WANNA GET ON THE LIST.RIGHT? WHO DOESN'T? SO HOW DO WE FIND OUT WHO TO TALK TO WITH THEM? I MEAN, THEY'RE, THEY HANDED OUT ONE FLYER TO A NEIGHBOR THAT INVITED THEM TO A ONE PERSON OPEN HOUSE, WHICH WAS VERY ODD.
AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, WHEN WE REACHED OUT TO THE R S V P, WE GET NOTHING BACK FROM THEM.
UM, I APPRECIATE WHAT MS. TOVA ALEJANDRA SAID EARLIER, IT WAS ABSOLUTELY TRUE, BUT EVERY DAY THERE'S CARS GOING IN AND OUT THERE, THERE'S CARS PARKED THERE, NOBODY LIVES THERE.
AND I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT? FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE, I THINK THEY'RE ASKING FOR FORGIVENESS MORE THAN APPROVAL.
THEY PUT A LOT OF MONEY INTO SOME BUSINESS THAT WASN'T APPROVED.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF PRECEDENCE IT SAYS IT SETS, BUT I'D LIKE TO FIND OUT WHO TO TALK TO OVER THERE TO, TO GET ON THE LIST FOR WHATEVER CONVERSATIONS ARE BEING HAD HAD.
SO IN TWO WEEKS I DON'T COME BACK HERE AND IT GETS APPROVED AND SOMEBODY'S GETTING TAKEN CARE OF AND NOBODY WAS, WAS TALKED TO.
BECAUSE ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS ABOUT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS THERE'S A LOT OF ELDERLY PEOPLE TOO WHO ARE CONFUSED.
AND A COUPLE OF PEOPLE I KNOW HAVE REACHED OUT AND ASKED FOR THE PERSON ON THE R S V P FOR THE ONE FLYER THAT WAS GIVEN OUT, AND THEY HAVEN'T GOTTEN BACK WITH ANY OF THOSE PEOPLE YET.
SO I GUESS I'D LIKE TO FIND THAT OUT, NOT JUST FOR ME AND MY FAMILY, BUT FOR EVERYONE ON THAT STREET WHO IS BEING LEFT OUT OF THE TALKS.
AND WE DEFINITELY WITH THE BULLET, DO NOT WANT IT THERE.
AND ALL THE PICTURES ARE ACCURATE.
WE DRIVE BY IT EVERY DAY AND WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
BUT IN THE MEANTIME, IF THEY ARE COMMUNICATING WITH CERTAIN NEIGHBORS, WE'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE ALL THE NEIGHBORS ARE SPOKEN WITH AND ALL THE NEIGHBORS ARE MET WITH AND MINUS A, A, UH, YOU KNOW, HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION.
I MEAN, WE HAVE A NEXT DOOR APP THEY CAN GET ON IF THEY'RE TRULY WANTING TO BE INTEGRATED INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY COULD HAVE LEFT THAT FLYER ON EVERYBODY'S MAILBOX, NOT JUST ONE PERSON'S MAILBOX.
AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THOSE ARE MY 2 CENTS.
HI, MY NAME IS KIM ANO AND I LIVE ON CASTANET, WHICH IS ONE STREET OVER FROM THIS, UM, BUSINESS AT 51 18 VANCE JACKSON ROAD.
AND I THINK THAT A WORD DAVID USED IS, IS KEY HERE IS ABOUT PRECEDENT AND SETTING A PRECEDENT FOR THE STREET OF VANCE JACKSON.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE ARE AS NEIGHBORS AT A DISADVANTAGE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD AND ORGANIZED NEIGHBORHOOD HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION UNLIKE MANY NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, AND THE REASON WE DON'T IS BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY SMALL AREA IN TERMS OF THESE TWO STREETS ARE CONNECTED AND THAT'S IT.
THERE, THERE ARE NOT A LOT OF HOMES THERE IN THESE TWO STREETS.
AND BECAUSE OF THAT, THIS IS A STREET THAT I TAUGHT MY DAUGHTER TO RIDE HER BIKE ON AND THAT WE STILL GO OUT WHEN SHE'S RIDING HER BIKE.
UM, WE DON'T NEED BUSINESS LEVEL TRAFFIC TAKING PLACE ON THAT STREET.
AND SO WE ARE VERY OPPOSED TO THE IDEA OF A BUSINESS OPERATING.
AND I THINK THAT JUST THE WAY THAT THEY, UM, WENT ABOUT THIS, WHERE, WHERE IT DOES SEEM AS THOUGH THEY ARE ASKING MORE FOR FORGIVENESS THAN PERMISSION AND JUST KIND OF COUNTING ON THIS HAPPENING, UM, IS JUST, YOU KNOW, I THINK SAYS A LOT ABOUT MAYBE HOW THEY DO BUSINESS.
AND, YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE ASKING FOR A CONTINUANCE FOR THIS KIND OF THING, IT'S REMINDS ME OF PEOPLE WHO GO TO COURT AND YOU ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE OVER AND OVER AND OVER.
YOU TRY TO WEAR THE PEOPLE OUT WHO ARE GONNA KEEP SHOWING UP FOR THINGS LIKE THIS.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF SEVERAL OF OUR NEIGHBORS, THIS IS THE SECOND TIME THEY'VE BEEN DOWN HERE, WE WERE NOT ABLE TO COME THE FIRST TIME, BUT WE'RE HERE THIS TIME AND I THINK CONTINUALLY, UM, GIVING A A, A CONTINUANCE ON THIS ITEM IS JUST GOING TO MAKE IT SO THAT WE ALL GET WORN OUT AND WE DON'T COME AND SHARE OUR VOICES.
SO WE ARE OPPOSED AND WE HOPE THAT YOU GUYS WILL DENY THE REQUEST.
ANY OTHER SPEAKERS SIGNED UP? NO, SIR.
IS THERE A MOTION FOR THESE ITEMS, MR. CHAIR? I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR, UH, CONTINUANCE OF THE FOLLOWING ITEMS TO THE MAY 16TH ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.
ALRIGHT, THERE'S A MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT.
UM, MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE TO THE MAY 16TH MEETING FOR ITEMS 9, 10, 17, AND 19.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARDOS.
ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? NONE.
COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, I JUST WANNA SPEAK TO THE NEIGHBORS FOR
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THE, THE VANCE JACKSON CASE.AND JUST TO LET Y'ALL KNOW THAT YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU ARE BEING HEARD.
AND JUST BECAUSE WE'RE GRANTING CONTINUANCE DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE NOT LISTENING TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE YOUR, UM, YOUR COMMENTS INTO ACCOUNT.
SO I JUST WANT YOU GUYS TO BE AWARE THAT, THAT WE ARE LISTENING TO YOU GUYS AND, AND WE JUST, I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A LITTLE MORE TIME FOR THIS TO PLAY OUT, BUT I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE BEING, WE'RE HEARING YOU RIGHT NOW, SO PLEASE DON'T, DON'T FEEL LIKE WE'RE NOT LISTENING TO YOU.
CAN I HAVE A ROLL CALL? VOTE PLEASE.
COMMISSIONER BUSANTE SIPES? YES.
ALL RIGHT, WELL WE'LL SEE YOU IN TWO WEEKS.
AND TO THOSE FOR ON THE VANCE JACKSON, I WANT ECHO WHAT COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE STATED AND ENCOURAGE YOU TO REACH OUT TO YOUR DISTRICT ONE COUNCIL OFFICE TO MAKE SURE THAT Y'ALL ARE INCLUDED ON ANY FUTURE MEETINGS.
ALRIGHT, MOVING ON TO OUR SECOND CONTINUANCE HEARING ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, WHICH IS TO BE CONTINUED TO JUNE 20TH, IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM OH TWO TO C TWO CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR MOTOR USE FOR MOTOR VEHICLE SALES, FULL SERVICE WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE 3000 BLOCK OF WEST LOOP 4 10 25 NOTICES WERE SENT.
TWO IN FAVOR FOR OPPOSED AND NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
OUTSIDE 200 FEET, WE RECEIVED ONE IN FAVOR AND WE DO HAVE VOICEMAILS FOR THIS CASE.
ALL RIGHT, IF WE COULD HEAR THE VOICEMAILS PLEASE.
THE, I AM GLORIA ALA OF THREE 11 NORTH HAVEN STREET AND WE OPPOSED TO THIS ZONING CHANGE, UM, THE CASE NUMBER IS 0 0 6 0, SORRY.
I'M A RESIDENT OF OAK HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE LAST THREE DIGITS OF THE CASE NUMBER ARE 0 6 0.
I AM IN SERIOUS OPPOSITION TO MOVING AND LOWERING AND ALSO DEVALUATING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BY CHANGING THE ZONING FROM HIGH RISE OFFICE TO A C TWO TO ALLOW FOR MOTOR VEHICLE SALES.
GENERALLY IT WILL BE LOCATED RIGHT AB BUT TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, I'M IN SERIOUS OPPOSITION.
THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION PRESENTED THIS INFORMATION, BUT WE HAVE NEVER TAKEN A VOTE.
THOSE OF US THAT LIVE CLOSE TO THIS AREA ARE IN COMPLETE OPPOSITION TO THIS.
MY NAME IS JANET HAYES, H A Y SS, ADDRESS, 7 3 1 5.
CALLING ABOUT CASE NUMBER Z DASH TWO TWO, I'M SORRY, Z DASH 2 0 2 3 DASH 1 0 7 0 0 0 6 OH.
AND THIS IS REGARDING THE WORLD CAR KIA.
UM, WANTING TO, UM, UH, USE THE VACANT LOT WEST OF WEST, UH, FROST BANK ON THE ACCESS ROAD OF FOUR 10.
I LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND I AM CONCERNED THERE WILL BE MORE, UH, TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, AND THERE SEEMS TO BE NO WAY TO STOP THAT.
SO THEREFORE I AM AGAINST, UH, THIS, UH, PROPOSAL.
MY ADDRESS IS 6 6 0 3 MOSSO DRIVE, UH, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS SEVEN EIGHT TWO TWO NINE.
MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 342-7963.
AND I'M CALLING ABOUT CASE NUMBER.
UH, THE LAST THREE DIGITS ARE ARE 0 6 0.
AND I'M CALLING TO CON, UH, EXPRESS MY CONCERN ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC THAT THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE WILL HAVE ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS AND, UH, THE SAFETY BASICALLY OF, OF THE OAK HILLS RESIDENCE.
UH, I UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT THE, UH, TRAFFIC WILL DEFINITELY BE INCREASED AS, AS PEOPLE EXIT THE, UH,
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UH, THE PROPOSED, UH, UH, DEALERSHIP.THIS IS SUSAN FERMAN, 2 1 9 NORTH HAVEN, N O R T H A V E N.
MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 218-8943.
AND THIS IS IN REFERENCE TO THE KIA DEALERSHIP.
AND IT'S CASE NUMBER, THE THREE LAST DIGITS OR 0 6 0.
I DO NOT WANT THIS, UH, DEALERSHIP TO BUILD IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
I'M DIRECTLY BEHIND THIS DEALERSHIP, AND NOT ONLY WILL THERE BE TRAFFIC DOWN MY STREET, NORTH HAVEN, THERE'LL BE LIGHTS, UH, LIGHT POLLUTION, AND IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS IT IS NOW, WE HAVE DEER AND ALL KINDS OF WILDLIFE AND IT WILL BE DETRIMENTAL TO THEM AS WELL AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO CALL ME BACK.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? NO, SIR.
UM, THIS ITEM IS ELIGIBLE FOR A CONTINUANCE.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION OR ANY MOTION FOR IT, MR. CHAIR? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE.
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT TO THE JUNE 20TH ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.
UM, MOTION IS MADE FOR, UH, CONTINUANCE TO THE JUNE 20TH MEETING FOR ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON.
UM, ANY DISCUSSION? LOOKING LEFT, LOOKING RIGHT? NONE.
I WILL, I WILL JUST SAY THAT THE, THE REASON FOR THE CONTINUANCE IS DUE TO A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING THAT THE, UM, THEY AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, MEANING THE NEIGHBORS WERE ASKING FOR MORE TIME.
AND, UH, THE, UH, APPLICANT AGREED WITH THAT.
AND SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE CONTINUANCE.
IF WE GET, GET A ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.
WE'LL NOW MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, I BELIEVE IF WE COULD HAVE STAFF'S PRESENTATION PLEASE.
ANN BETA'S ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS LOCATED AT 3 9 1 5 FLAGAL STREET AND IS A REQUEST TO GO FROM R SIX TO I DZ ONE WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
THERE WERE 21 NOTICES SENT WITH ZERO RETURN IN FAVOR, SIX IN OP FIVE IN OPPOSITION AND MEMORIAL HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED OUTSIDE 200 FEET.
STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
THE CURRENT R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED I D Z ONE LIMITED INTENSITY INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR 37 UNITS.
A RECREATION FACILITY AND A CHURCH IS ALSO APPROPRIATE FOR THE PROPERTY GIVEN ITS SIZE AND PLACEMENT WITHIN THE AREA.
IF THE PROPERTY WERE DEVELOPED AS AN R SIX SUBDIVISION, THERE COULD BE A POTENTIAL OF 50 UNITS CONSTRUCTED ON THE PROPERTY.
THE PROPOSED ID Z ONE LIMITS THE DENSITY AND DESIGN TO A SUBMITTED SITE PLAN.
THE ID Z ONE ALSO RESTRICTS THE HEIGHT OF THE UNITS TO TWO AND A HALF STORIES AND 35 FEET.
THE PROPOSED REZONING REQUEST IS ALIGNED WITH THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, WHICH ENCOURAGES DIVERS DIVERSIFIED HOUSING TYPES TO MEET THE GROWING NEEDS OF THE CITY AT ALL INCOME LEVELS.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE.
MY NAME IS MITSUKO RAMOS WITH GOVERNMENT RELATIONS GROUP OF TEXAS.
I REPRESENT THE PROPERTY OWNER, VERGE PRODUCTIONS, L L C.
THE MANAGING MEMBER IS RAFAEL MAREL, WHO'S OVER HERE.
UM, THE PROPERTY IS AT 3 9 1 5 LEGAL STREET, AS YOU KNOW, IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED R SIX AND WE'RE REQUESTING A REZONE TO I D Z ONE INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE TO ALLOW
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A MAXIMUM OF 37 DWELLING UNITS.AND, UH, CONTINGENT ON THE MEMORIAL HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION SUPPORT FOR THE ZONING CASE.
WE ALSO, UH, AGREED TO A RECREATION CENTER AND WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO BUILD A CHURCH.
UM, MARK, UH, AS WE INTRODUCE YOU TO, UH, RAFAEL AT THE LAST, UH, ZONING COMMISSION HEARING, HE HAS A FAMILY, HE'S, HIS MISSION IS TO, UM, REDEVELOP THE VACANT LAND INTO A FAMILY ORIENTED, UH, SUBDIVISION THAT'S LOCATED RIGHT NEXT TO HIS SCHOOL.
OUR ARCHITECT IS MR. MARLO MARTINEZ, WHO'S A FORMER PLANNING COMMISSIONER.
HE ALSO HAS THE SAME GOAL OF, UH, CONSTRUCTING A SAFE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR FAMILIES.
UM, THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE LOCATION OF THE VACANT PROPERTY.
IT'S A LITTLE OVER OR JUST RIGHT UNDER FOUR ACRES.
IT'S LOCATED TO THE WEST OF ROOSEVELT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND JUST TO THE EAST OF SAS SUBSTATION.
THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE, UH, MINERAL HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE SOUTH.
YOU COULD SEE THE SINGLE FAMILY ONE STORY HOMES.
UM, WE HAVE PHOTOS OF THE DUPLEX APARTMENTS THAT ARE AT THE END OF, UH, FLAGAL STREET JUST TO THE WEST.
AND WE ALSO HAVE, UH, PHOTOS OF THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT ARE RIGHT.
EP STREET, WHICH IS RIGHT, UM, JUST SOUTH OF, UH, FLAGAL STREET.
UM, I'M, I DID MEET WITH, UH, UM, UH, THE TRAFFIC DIVISION AS WELL AS THE PLANNING, UH, STAFF IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.
UH, REGARDING THE, UH, THE LOT, THE LOT IS CURRENTLY ZONED R SIX.
SO THEY HAD ALREADY PLANNED FOR TRAFFIC FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
UM, AND, AND THEY HAD STATED THAT THEY'RE NOT CONCERNED.
UM, SABRINA, UH, WHO WORKS IN PUBLIC WORKS ALSO OFFERED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS TO THE THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, I HAVE ASKED, UM, THE FORMER PRESIDENT AND THE CURRENT PRESIDENT IF THEY WANTED TO MEET WITH SABRINA OR ANY OTHER PUBLIC WORKS STAFF OR TRAFFIC STAFF THAT THEY COULD EXPLAIN, UM, THEIR, THEIR STUDIES ON THIS NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
UM, I D Z ZONING, AS YOU KNOW, OFFERS FLEXIBLE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
UM, I D Z IN MY OPINION, UH, YOU KNOW, THE STANDARD ZONING ALLOWS FOR DIFFERENT USES WITH I D Z.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE ASKING FOR THE SAME USE.
WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR FLEXIBLE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
UM, THE CURRENT, UM, R SIX REQUIRES THE MINIMUM OF 6,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS.
AND SO THIS WILL ALLOW US TO HAVE SMALLER LOTS AND ALSO, UH, MORE FLEXIBLE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT WILL ALLOW, UM, FOR THE STREET TO HAVE, UH, ONE, UM, SINGLE UNF FLOATED ACCESS POINT IS AND ALSO ALLOW A LOOP AROUND FOR EMERGENCY, UM, ACCESS TO THE NEW SUBDIVISION.
THIS SHOWS, UH, ILLUSTRATION OF THE FLOODPLAIN.
YOU COULD SEE THAT THE, UM, THE, UH, THREE ACRE LOT, THREE PLUS ACRE LOT IS SURROUNDED BY A FLOODPLAIN.
AND SO ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE LOT THERE, THAT'S WHERE THE SINGLE AND FLOODED ACCESS IS.
UM, TO THE, UM, WEST OF THE FRONTAGE, YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT LARGE DRAINAGE AREA AND HOW IT'S KIND OF ELEVATED TO HELP WITH DRAINAGE.
UM, THE, UH, MEMORIAL HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ALREADY COMPLAINED OF, UM, CURRENT FLOODING ON THAT WESTERN SIDE OF THE FRONTAGE OF THE LOT.
SO WHEN IT, WHEN IT RAINS, THEY HAVE VEHICLES THAT ARE SOMETIMES STRANDED.
SO WE'RE HOPING THAT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE LOT, UM, RAFAEL MAREL, RAFAEL MAREL CAN ALSO MAYBE, UM, ASSIST WITH MAYBE, UM, YOU KNOW, RESOLVING THAT, THAT FLOOD PROBLEM ON THE STREET.
THIS IS A, A SITE PLAN, AN UPDATED SITE PLAN FROM THE LAST, UM, PRESENTATION.
IT SHOWS THAT, UM, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE OPEN SPACE IS, IS, UM, AT LEAST 500 SQUARE FEET.
SO WE WILL NOT, UM, REDUCE THAT FROM 500 SQUARE FEET.
I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT THE RECREATION CENTER IS CONTINGENT ON SUPPORT FROM MEMORIAL HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, UM, THE RECREATION CENTER WAS REALLY THEIR IDEA.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY ASKED FOR.
WE HAD, UM, ELIMINATED SEVEN SINGLE FAMILY HOMES TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT BECAUSE THEY WANTED SOMETHING THERE FOR THEM TO ENJOY AND WERE HAPPY TO DO IT.
BUT, UM, IN THE, IN THE LAST, UM, COUPLE OF MONTHS, THEY HAVE EXPRESSED CONCERN WITH THE RECREATION CENTER.
SO IF, IF THEY DON'T WANT IT, UM, WE CAN MAKE IT SOMETHING ELSE, A LIBRARY, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY WANT.
SO WE JUST WANTED, WE PUT THAT IN THERE 'CAUSE WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WITH THE, UM, NEW CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, UH, LEGAL OPINION, IF IT'S LABELED SOMETHING THEN WE HAVE TO PUT IT THERE KIND OF THING.
SO IF, UH, THE REC, IF THE, UH, MEMORIAL HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS SOMETHING ELSE THERE, LIKE A, LIKE A LIBRARY OR SOMETHING, THEN WE WANNA HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY.
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UM, WE HAD ANOTHER, UH, JUST A RENDERING AND THAT SEEMED TO KIND OF, UM, PUT THIS IDEA IN THE SURROUNDING RESIDENT'S MIND AS TO WHAT IT WAS GONNA LOOK LIKE.AND, UH, I JUST WANTED TO PUT SOME OTHER IDEAS IN THERE JUST TO, AGAIN, STRESS THAT THESE ARE JUST IDEAS.
WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING SET IN STONE AS WHAT THEY'RE GONNA LOOK LIKE, BUT WE DO WANNA RESPECT, UH, THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE WANT TO TRY TO, UH, MAKE THE HOMES, UM, DESIGNED SO THAT THEY WOULD FIT INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO, UM, I JUST WENT ON TO GOOGLE AND I FOUND SOME HOMES THAT I THOUGHT MIGHT FIT.
I'M NOT A PROFESSIONAL IN REGARDS TO WHAT WOULD FIT, AND I KNOW THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER BUSANTE, YOU SAID THAT, THAT THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN REALLY ISN'T, UM, SOMETHING THAT WOULD, UM, BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE, UM, STRESSED IN REGARDS TO ZONING.
HOWEVER, I WANT, UM, YOU ALSO MIGHT AGREE THAT, UH, THE, THE, UM, RESIDENTS ARE VERY SENSITIVE TO THIS.
AND SO WE WANNA JUST SHOW OUR GOOD FAITH EFFORT INTO, UM, KEEPING THAT IN MIND.
AND WE'RE, WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR ANY SORT OF INPUT FROM THEM ON WHAT THEY'D LIKE TO SEE.
AND, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO STILL WELCOME THAT INPUT AS WELL.
UM, WE WANTED TO SHOW THAT THE I D Z ZONING DOES, UM, IS CONSISTENT AND MEETS THE PURPOSE OF THE GOAL OF I D Z ZONING, WHICH IS TO, UM, ALLOW A MORE FLEXIBLE APPROACH TO THE DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT IN INFILL PROJECTS.
WE WANNA HAVE THE SMART GROWTH AS THE BASIS FOR EVALUATING THE PROPOSED INFILL PROJECTS.
WE WANT TO HAVE, UH, PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT.
WE WANNA HAVE DESIGN FLEXIBILITY, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE PRO, UH, PROPERTIES LIKE THIS THAT HAVE HARDSHIPS SUCH AS THE, UM, THE FLOODPLAIN HARDSHIP.
UM, WE DO WANNA HAVE THE MIX OF THE RESIDENTIAL, UM, DEVELOPMENT TO OFFER NEW HOMEOWNERS, UH, THE, UH, DIFFERENT VARIETY OF HOMES.
WE ALSO DID GO BACK AFTER HAVING THAT LAST MEETING WITH MEMORIAL HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ON ONE OR TWO STORIES, AND THE PROPERTY OWNER DID AGREE TO MIX THEM WITH ONE STORY AS WELL.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE MADE A CHANGE ON SINCE OUR LAST MEETING.
AND THIS ALSO SHOWS, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS LIKE REZONING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE, UM, COMPATIBLE USE AND THE INTENSITY WITH THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD AND SO FORTH.
UH, WE ALSO WANNA SHOW THAT THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S MASTER PLAN, UM, TO REZONE VACANT OR UNDER-UTILIZED PROPERTY IN AND AROUND NEIGHBORHOODS TO ENCOURAGE IT REDEVELOPMENT.
UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I WANTED TO STRESS.
UM, YOU KNOW, LAST MONTH THERE WAS A GUNMAN WHO WAS FOUND ACTUALLY ON THIS PARTICULAR LOT WHO WAS HIDING IN THE LOT.
WE'VE AL ALREADY STRESSED MANY TIMES THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF SQUATTERS, HOMELESS PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING DRUGS.
UM, THAT'S AN ACTUAL PICTURE ON THE RIGHT OF, UM, OF RAPHAEL GOING IN WITH POLICE AND, AND, UM, GETTING RID OF PEOPLE WHO ARE CAMPING OUT THERE DOING DRUGS, THEIR DRUG, UH, UM, NEEDLES AND SO FORTH.
HE HAS TO DO THIS EVERY SINGLE MONTH.
AND THE NEIGHBORS HAVE BEEN REALLY GOOD ABOUT CALLING THINGS IN WHEN THERE'S ILLEGAL DUMPING AND SO FORTH.
BUT IT'S ALSO STRESS ON THE NEIGHBORS TO HAVE TO TRY CONSTANTLY CALL THINGS IN BECAUSE PEOPLE COME BY EVERY DAY AND ILLEGAL DUMPING AND SO FORTH.
SO THE SOONER IT'S DEVELOPED, THE SAFER IT'S GONNA BE.
THIS MAN HAD A, I THINK A RIFLE AND ONE OF THE MOMS THAT WAS, UM, PICKING UP HER KIDS, UM, CALLED IT IN AND POLICE WERE ABLE TO GO IN THERE WITHIN SO MANY, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE MINUTES AND, AND, AND ARREST THE MAN.
SO, UM, THE SOONER WE CAN GET IT DEVELOPED, UM, I THINK THE BETTER.
UM, THIS IS JUST A TIMELINE OF OUR MEETING WITH MERLE HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
WE STARTED IN NOVEMBER OF 2019.
UM, WE DID CHANGE THE SITE PLAN PROBABLY ABOUT FOUR TIMES.
WE HAVE A COMMUNITY RELATIONS CONSULTANT, MR. ANDREW TEJEDA, WHO DID SOME BLOCK ROCKING AND ACTUALLY MET WITH RESIDENTS WITHIN 200 FEET.
AND WE GATHERED ABOUT EIGHT SIGNATURES IN 2021.
WE'LL PROBABLY GO OUT BEFORE CITY COUNCIL TO SEE IF WE CAN GET MORE RECENT UPDATED, UM, YOU KNOW, SIGNATURES 'CAUSE SOME PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE MOVED OUT 'CAUSE THERE ARE SEVERAL HOMES THERE THAT ARE LEASED OUT WITHIN 200 FEET, SO MAYBE THERE ARE NEW TENANTS.
UM, BEFORE CITY COUNCIL, UM, WE HAD SOME ZOOM MEETINGS IN JANUARY AND MARCH OF 2022.
AND THEN OUR LAST MEETING, UM, WITH COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE WAS IN ON APRIL 15TH OF, UM, 2023, WHICH WAS, UM, I FELT LIKE IT WAS PRODUCTIVE BECAUSE, UH, WE WERE ABLE TO GO BACK WITH THE OWNER WHO AGREED TO ALSO MAKE THEM, SOME OF THEM ONE STORY, UM, SOME OF THE REMEDIES TO RESOLVE THE CONCERNS THAT THEY EXPRESSED.
UM, IN THE PAST, DURING THE LAST THREE YEARS, UH, WE DID CHANGE THE SITE PLAN FROM 45 SINGLE HOMES TO 37 SINGLE HOMES.
UM, WE PROPOSED A RIGHT TURN ONLY SIGN AT THE INTERSECTION OF FLAGAL STREET TO AVOID TRAFFIC.
UM, WE DID ADD A RECREATION CENTER AS THEY HAD ORIGINALLY
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REQUESTED IN 2022.UM, AND WE DID OFFER RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS AND, UH, HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION FOR THE NEW SUBDIVISION IF THEY SUPPORTED THE CASE, IF THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT, UM, ILLEGAL DUMPING OR TRASH OR, UM, THE, THE LAWNS NOT BEING MAINTAINED.
UM, I USED MY, UH, SKILLS TO PREPARE THIS EXHIBIT
UM, THIS IS KIND OF AN ILLUSTRATION OF WHAT I WAS TRYING TO TALK ABOUT.
IF WE PUT LIKE A RIGHT TURN ONLY SIGN, THEN ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S TRAFFIC ON FLAGAL GOING TOWARDS THE SCHOOL, THEN MAYBE THIS WOULD HELP.
I DON'T KNOW WHY ANYONE IN THE RIGHT MIND WOULD WANNA TURN LEFT OUTTA THERE ANYWAY.
BUT, UM, THIS IS JUST AN ILLUSTRATION OF THAT.
IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? YES, WE HAVE VOICEMAILS AND THEN WE HAVE SPEAKERS TO SIGN UP.
IF WE COULD HAVE VOICEMAILS FIRST.
I LIVE AT THREE 19 ALSO STREET.
UM, MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 332-0028 AND I'M CALLING ABOUT THE 39 15 FLAGGO STREET ZONING CASE ENDING IN 0 1 3.
AS PRESIDENT OF MEMORIAL HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND LONG-TERM RESIDENT, I AM OPPOSED TO THE ZONING CHANGE.
THESE CHANGES ARE ONLY GOING TO INCREASE TRAFFIC CONGESTION GOING IN AND OUT OF ROOSEVELT ELEMENTARY ON FLAGGO STREET.
TRAFFIC BEGINS DURING MORNING SCHOOL DROP OFF.
IT STARTS FROM SEVEN 15 ALL THE WAY TO EIGHT 30 IN THE MORNING.
AND AGAIN, TRAFFIC STARTS FROM THE AFTERNOON FOR AFTERNOON PICKUP WHERE PARENTS START LINING UP ON FLAGGO STREET, BEGINNING FROM ALL UP, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO 34TH STREET FROM 2:00 PM ALL THE WAY TILL 5:00 PM I HAVE CALLED AND BEEN INFORMED BY PUBLIC WORKS.
THERE HASN'T BEEN A TRAFFIC STUDY COMPLETED BY THEIR DEPARTMENT IN THE LAST THREE TO FIVE YEARS ON ANY STREETS AROUND ROSEWOOD ELEMENTARY.
THE NEIGHBORHOOD LAYOUT FOR THE PROPOSED 37 DWELLING IN THIS PARCEL WILL PREVENT EMERGENCY SERVICES FROM OFFICIALLY DOING THEIR JOBS.
THE DEVELOPERS PROPOSED SINGULAR INGRESS AND EGRESS TO THE NEW NEIGHBORHOOD.
SUBDIVISION WILL NOT ALLEVIATE ANY NEW INFLUX OF TRAFFIC.
FLAGGO STREET IS PRONE TO FLOODING DURING BAD WEATHER.
IN THE PAST, WE'VE HAD VEHICLES COME AND BECOME STRANDED WHEN THEY TRY TO MANEUVER THROUGH THE FLOODED STREET.
ANOTHER CONCERN OF MINE I HAVE IS HOW WILL THIS TIGHTLY COMPACTED NEW NEIGHBORHOOD STREET HINDER THE ABILITY FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES TO BE ABLE TO GET TO THE EMERGENCY AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE? EMERGENCY SERVICE ARE ALREADY GOING TO HAVE TO OVERCOME OBSTACLES EVEN BEFORE THEY GET TO THEIR DESTINATION.
THEY WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH MANEUVERING THROUGH NOW PASSAGES JUST TO GET THROUGH ONE ENTRY POINT IN TIMES OF EMERGENCY.
AND GOD FORBID THESE EMERGENCIES WILL BE DURING PEAK TRAFFIC HOURS OR DURING TIMES WHEN THE STREET IS FLOODING.
EMERGENCY SERVICES ARE ALREADY LOSING TIME EVEN BEFORE THEY GET TO THEIR DESTINATION.
AS YOU KNOW, SECONDS CAN MEAN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LIFE AND DEATH.
AND THIS IS AGAIN, WHY I DO NOT AND I CANNOT SUPPORT THE ZONING CHANGE.
AND I WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.
I LIVE AT 3 3 5 PRECIOUS STREET.
I, UM, MY NUMBER IS 2 1 0 8 6 0 1 0 7 8 AND I'M CALLING REGARDING THE, UM, PROPOSED, UM, ZONING CHANGE FOR 39 15 FLAGAL STREET.
I'M OPPOSED TO THAT AS A RE AS A RESIDENT OF THIS, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, DUE TO THE FACT THAT, UH, WE'VE HAD MANY OF THESE DEVELOPERS COME IN AND, UM, THOUGH THESE HOUSING UNITS THAT ARE, ARE MAKING, UM, THE LIVING SITUATION HERE, UH, LESS DESIRABLE.
UM, OFTENTIMES THERE'S, UH, MORE CRIME THAT IS BROUGHT BY THESE UNITS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED TO BEING BUILT.
UM, THE PROXIMITY TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AS WELL IS SOMETHING THAT CONCERNS ME BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC THAT IT WOULD CAUSE.
UH, AGAIN, MY NAME IS LORENZO.
I LIVE AT THREE THREE FIVE PRECIOUS STREET.
MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 860-1078.
UH, UH, IN OPPOSITION FOR THE, UH, FLAGGO STREET DEVELOPMENT.
OR I'M SORRY, THE ZONING CHANGE.
HELLO? YES, MY NAME IS ROSIE GARCIA AND I RESIDE AT 1 6 6 TESLA DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS SEVEN EIGHT TWO TWO EIGHT.
UH, PHONE NUMBER TWO TEN THREE THREE SIX EIGHTY SEVENTY THREE.
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AM OPPOSED TO THIS, UH, ZONE CHANGING.UM, I KNOW THAT IT'S JUST BEEN, UM, JUST STRETCHED OUT SO LONG ALREADY.
NOTHING HAS CHANGED AND I STILL FEEL THAT IT'S GONNA BE A LOT OF CHAOS.
CONGESTION, I SAID THERE'S GOING TO BE TOO MANY, IT'S TOO MANY, UM, PLACES THERE, THE, THE HOUSES THAT THEY WANNA BUILD AND THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF, UM, TROUBLE WITH, UH, SCHOOL TRAFFIC AND, AND EVERYTHING.
I THINK IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST DANGEROUS.
SO THAT'S WHAT I'M CALLING TO OPPOSE IT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT.
THE, THE CASE WAS 0 1 3, THE ZONING CASE.
AND THEN WE HAVE, FOR OUR SPEAKERS, WE HAVE MR. RICHARD GARCIA.
ALL RIGHT, MR. GARCIA, GOOD AFTERNOON.
COMMISSIONER IS RICHARD GARCIA.
UH, ADDRESS 1 6 6 TESLA DRIVE, 7 8 2 2 8.
UH, WHAT ELSE CAN I SAY? UH, YOU HEARD THE COMMON DENOMINATOR, TRAFFIC CONGESTION, TRAFFIC CONGESTION, TRAFFIC CONGESTION OVER AND OVER AND OVER.
AND IT SEEMS LIKE, UH, THERE WAS 22 PEOPLE OPPOSED TO IT.
AND I TELL ME, I HAVEN'T HEARD ONE, ONE SINGLE PERSON THAT'S IN FAVOR OF THIS ONE SINGLE PERSON.
AND EVEN WITH THAT, RIGHT NOW, THIS IS JUST A PARTIAL LIST OF SIGNATURES THAT WE HAVE NAMES AND ADDRESSES OF PEOPLE WHO ARE OPPOSED.
WE'RE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH OUR CITY COUNCIL PERSON IN OPPOSING THIS.
AND ALSO, THE OTHER THING IS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION.
NOT ONLY THAT, BUT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ALSO WITH OUR CITY COUNCIL ABOUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY.
AND THERE IS, AND WE HAVE AN EMAIL HERE THAT I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT HAS BEEN, AND MR. MENEZ IS RIGHT, WE HAVEN'T HAD ONE DONE IN THREE OR FIVE YEARS.
AND DO YOU THINK ONE STUPID SIGN, STUPID STOP SIGN IS GONNA STOP THIS TRAFFIC CONGESTION? REALLY? I DON'T THINK SO.
ONCE TRAFFIC SIGN IS GONNA STOP ALL THIS CONGESTION, AND ALSO WE'RE, WE HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT THE CITY'S NOT ANSWERING THE TRA WE NEED A TRAFFIC STUDY AND A DETAILED TRAFFIC STUDY.
NOT JUST SOMETHING, JUST JUST A READER'S DIGEST.
WE NEED A DETAILED TRAFFIC STUDY ABOUT THIS.
AND ALSO THE, THE, THE LOCAL RESIDENTS AND NEIGHBORS ARE VERY CONCERNED BECAUSE OF THE PROPERTY TAXES.
HOW IS THIS GOING TO AFFECT THEIR PROPERTY TAXES? WE KNOW THAT PROPERTY TAXES RIGHT, IS A BIG, BIG MAJOR ISSUE RIGHT NOW IN OUR CITY, IN OUR STATE.
BUT ANYWAY, THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS AND SOMEONE FROM THE CITY HAS NOT GIVEN US AN IDEA ABOUT HOW THIS IS GOING TO AFFECT US.
OKAY? HOW, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT ARE GONNA BE THE NE NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES? SO WE SAID NO BEFORE IN THE PAST WE SAID NO TODAY, AND WE'LL SAY NO AGAIN TOMORROW.
AND WE'RE READY TO TAKE IT TO CITY COUNCIL.
WE HAVE TO KEEP FIGHTING THIS OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
NO, IN ENGLISH AND NO IN SPANISH.
NO, IS NO, WHAT ELSE CAN I SAY? WE STILL REMAIN NOT POST, AND I HAVE SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS, YOU'RE LOCAL RESIDENTS THAT ARE ALSO STRONGLY OPPOSED TO THIS.
SO, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
AND ALSO I WANTED TO MENTION TO YOU THAT IN, UH, WE'VE BEEN TALK, UH, WORKING ALSO WITH OUR, WITH OUR, UH, CITY COUNCIL PERSON.
AND THIS IS AN E A CURRENT EMAIL THAT WE HAVE REGARDING THE CURRENT TRAFFIC STUDY.
SO I JUST WANTED JUST TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU.
UH, SO, UH, WE, WE WILL CONTINUE WORKING WITH CITY COUNCIL AND WE'LL CONTINUE OPPOSING THIS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
AND LAST, UH, MR. RAPHAEL MARFA.
HOW ARE YOU? MY NAME IS RAPHAEL MATFIELD.
UM, I'M GONNA TAKE AN UNORTHODOX APPROACH HERE TO MY TWO MINUTES.
I WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE HEART OF THE PROJECT.
YOU'VE, WE'VE HEARD ABOUT THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS AND THE, UM, AND, AND SOME CONCERNS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH I APPRECIATE THEM SHARING THEIR CONCERNS.
BUT FOR ME, THIS ALL STARTED WITH THE FUTURE RESIDENTS HERE.
UM, AND IT STARTED WITH THE HEART OF, OF MY INTENT FOR EVEN COMING INTO THIS.
AND I CAN'T SHARE THAT INTENT WITHOUT SHARING.
MATTHEW 2236 IN MATTHEW 22, 22, 36, THIS IS A PART WHERE JESUS IS WITH HIS DISCIPLES.
AND HE WAS APPROACHED AND THE TEACHER OF THE LAW CAME AND ASKED, WHAT'S THE GREATEST COMMANDMENT IN THE LAW? AND JESUS REPLIED, IT'S LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL AND ALL YOUR MIND.
THIS IS THE FIRST AND GREATEST COMMANDMENT.
AND THE SECOND IS LIKE IT, IT'S LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.
YOU SEE, FOR A CHRISTIAN, I OFTEN CHALLENGE MEN AND GROUPS TO LIVE THIS OUT.
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THE NEIGHBOR BESIDE US, HE MEANT COMMUNITY.AND SO FOR ME, AS I THINK ABOUT THE GIFTS I'VE BEEN GIVEN, THE PURPOSE I'VE BEEN GIVEN, THE JOB I'VE BEEN GIVEN, I ASK MYSELF, HOW CAN I DO MORE IN MY COMMUNITY? AND WHEN I CAME TO FIND THIS PIECE OF LAND, IT FELT LIKE AN ABANDONED PIECE OF LAND IN AN ABANDONED AREA, RIGHT? THERE'S ACTUAL PEOPLE THERE AND THERE'S KIND PEOPLE THERE.
AND I THOUGHT, WHAT CAN I DO FOR THE COMMUNITY? WELL, AS A BUSINESS PERSON, IT'S NOT SMART TO TAKE UP SPACE TO PUT A CHURCH OR A RECREATION CENTER.
IT'S SMART TO MAXIMIZE IT WITH ALL THE PLACES I CAN.
ORIGINALLY, I EVEN WANTED ACTUAL DUPLEXES, BUT THE COMMUNITY SAID, NO, WE DON'T WANT DUPLEXES.
AND I SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? THAT'S FINE.
IT'S NOT ABOUT THE PROPHETS, IT'S ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AND THE PURPOSE OF THE CHURCH.
IT'S JUST NOT FOR MARKETING PURPOSES.
IT'S TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE OF THE COMMUNITY CAN GO AND BE COMMUNITY AND HELP EACH OTHER OUT.
AND THAT'S THE INTENT OF THIS.
AND SO I WON'T WASTE TIME WITH TRAFFIC OR POTENTIAL FLOODING AND ALL THESE OTHER THINGS THAT COULD BE CONCERNS.
I FEEL THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED.
I REALLY WANTED TO SHARE THE HEART OF WHERE THIS IDEA AND THIS COMMUNITY CAME FROM AT A TIME WHERE SAN ANTONIO IS GROWING.
AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE LOOKING FOR MORE AND MORE PLACES THAT AREN'T THREE TO $500,000 HOMES.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO PROVIDE.
WE DO HAVE MORE SPEAKERS, I'M SORRY.
WE HAVE MR. ANDREW TEJEDA THAN TO BE FOLLOWED BY MS. DIANA HERRERA.
UH, ANDREW, THE HEATHER WITH THE HEATHER CONSULTING.
SO THE REASON I'M SPEAKING IS BECAUSE I PERSONALLY BLOCK WALKED, UH, WITHIN 200 FEET, UH, TO THE RESIDENCE.
AND ALL THE RESIDENTS I SPOKE TO WERE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE PROJECT, MAINLY BECAUSE AS MS. RAMOS, UH, TOLD YOU, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DRUG USE, UH, A LOT OF VAGRANTS OUT THERE.
UH, SO THEY WANTED TO SEE SOMETHING, UH, DONE WITH THAT AND CLEANED UP.
NOW THERE'S NOT VERY MUCH I CAN SAY THAT YOU HAVEN'T HEARD ALREADY.
YOU GUYS ARE PROBABLY, WELL, VERY WELL VERSED ON THIS.
I JUST WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND SAY THANK YOU FOR, FOR LISTENING TO US AND HOPE YOU GUYS, I KNOW YOU GUYS WILL MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION.
AND THEN LASTLY, MS. DIANA HERRERA, PLEASE.
UH, MY NAME IS DIANA HERRERA AND I LIVE AT 3 1 4 ROSABEL.
FIRST OF ALL, LET ME, UH, JUST STATE THAT I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST, UH, DEVELOPMENT OF HOMES IN THE AREA.
HOWEVER, HOME OWNERSHIP IS PART OF THE AMERICAN DREAM AND, UH, HOME OWNERSHIP FOR FAMILIES, UH, WOULD WANT HOMES THAT HAVE AMPLE ROOM TO ENJOY INSIDE AND OUTSIDE.
IF YOU PAID ATTENTION TO THE DIAGRAM FOR THE DEVELOPMENT FOR 37 HOMES ON AN AREA THAT IS APPROXIMATELY UNDER THREE AND A HALF ACRES, UH, THAT IS A LOT OF HOMES, 30 OF THESE HOMES ARE BACK TO BACK WHERE YOUR BEDROOM WALL IS, YOUR NEIGHBOR'S FENCE POINT.
THERE'S NO ROOM FOR A DRIVEWAY OTHER THAN IN FRONT OF THE HOME.
THERE IS NO BACKYARD, NO SIDE YARD.
UH, WHERE ARE THESE FAMILIES SUPPOSED TO ENJOY THEIR AMERICAN DREAM? UH, THE DEVELOPER HAS PAINTED A PRETTY PICTURE OF WHAT THOSE HOMES WOULD LOOK LIKE, UH, AND THEY WERE PRESENTED TO YOU.
HOWEVER, THAT'S NOT WHAT THE HOMES ARE GONNA LOOK LIKE IF THEY'RE CROWDED INTO THIS SPA, THIS SPACE.
UM, WE ALL KNOW THAT OVERCROWDING CONDITIONS CAUSE OTHER PROBLEMS. THIS AREA WILL LOOK LIKE A HOUSING COMPLEX AND NOT HOMES FOR THOSE THAT WANT TO BUY THE AMERICAN DREAM.
UM, NOT ONLY THAT, PROPERTY TAXES WILL BE RAISED IN THE AREA.
THE AREA IS, UM, MANY ELDERLY PEOPLE WHO ALREADY CAN'T AFFORD THEIR RISING PROPERTY TAXES.
WHAT ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO DO WHEN THESE PROPERTIES, PROPERTY TAXES GO UP? THE STREET LEADING TO THE AREA IS A SMALL NARROW STREET.
UM, IT LEADS TO THE BACK OF A LOCAL ELEMENTARY.
IF YOU ADD TWO MORE CARS PER PER HOUSE, THAT'S A LOT OF CARS.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THE CARS THAT PICK UP AND DROP OFF THEIR KIDS, UM, YES, IT'S WALKING DISTANCE, BUT THESE FAMILIES MIGHT NOT EVEN SEND THEIR KIDS TO THIS ELEMENTARY.
THEY MIGHT GO TO A CHARTER SCHOOL.
SO THERE'S MORE CONGESTION OF TRAFFIC ON THAT STREET.
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UM, FOR PERSONAL SAFETY OF THE CHILDREN AND THE FAMILIES THAT LIVE IN THIS AREA.TOO MANY VEHICLES WILL CAUSE A PROBLEM.
UM, AS FAR AS THE SURVEY WHERE THIS GENTLEMAN WENT TO SPEAK TO FAMILIES, UM, WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHO HE SPOKE TO, BUT PERHAPS HE SPOKE TO ELDERLY PEOPLE WHO WERE NOT VERY WELL AWARE OF THE RAMIFICATIONS OF SOMETHING OF THIS NATURE BEING BUILT.
UM, THE COMMUNITY CENTER, WHO GETS TO USE IT? WHO'S GONNA UPKEEP IT? WILL EVERYONE GET TO ENJOY IT? OR JUST THE RESIDENTS OF THAT COMMUNITY INVESTORS WILL THEY BE THE ONES TO COME IN AND PURCHASE THESE HOMES? THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
AND THAT'S IT FOR THE SPEAKERS AND VOICEMAILS FOR THIS CASE.
ALRIGHT, UH, MS. RAMOS, YOU HAVE A OPPORTUNITY FOR A SHORT REBUTTAL.
UM, FIRSTLY, I WANTED TO SAY THAT ALL OF THESE HOMES WILL HAVE SIDE YARDS, A DRIVEWAY THAT WILL FIT TWO CARS AT LEAST, AND THEY ALL HAVE BACKYARDS AS WELL.
UM, AS FAR AS THE TRAFFIC IS CONCERNED, UM, IF ANY OF THESE STUDENTS GO TO SCHOOL, THEY'LL PROBABLY WALK TO SCHOOL.
THEY'RE LITERALLY RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
UM, IF THEY DECIDE TO GO TO A DIFFERENT SCHOOL, THEY'LL BE TURNING RIGHT OFF OF FLAGAL.
THEY WILL NOT BE TURNING LEFT GOING TOWARDS THE SCHOOL OF ROOSEVELT.
YOU KNOW, UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UH, THE EXHIBIT THERE, YOU'LL SEE THAT SAWS, UM, POWER PLANT OR THE SUB SAWS SUBSTATION IS RIGHT THERE, WHICH DOESN'T GENERATE HARDLY ANY TRAFFIC ON FLAGAL.
UM, SO THERE'S REALLY NOT A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON FLAGAL GOING OUT ONTO, UH, I THINK IT'S 34TH STREET.
SO PEOPLE COMING OUTTA THE SUBDIVISION, TURNING RIGHT ONTO FLAGAL TO LEAVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD THERE.
THERE'S, THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE, UM, A LOT OF EXISTING TRAFFIC THERE ANYWAY.
AND, UM, THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE WITHIN 200 FEET, UM, WHEN WE, WHEN WE BLOCK WALKED THERE, THEY WERE MOSTLY ELDERLY PEOPLE.
AND, UM, THEY'RE NOT REALLY IMPACTED BY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE IN THEIR HOMES, THEY'RE, THEY DON'T HAVE KIDS.
UM, SO, BUT, UM, THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME.
UM, FOR THE PROPERTY TAXES, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT.
UM, IF WE, IF WE LEAVE IT THE SAME AND, AND WE HAVE LARGER LOTS, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE LARGER HOMES AND IT'S GOING TO, THE, UH, AMOUNT OF THE HOMES ARE GONNA BE MORE EXPENSIVE, WHICH IS GOING TO ACTUALLY INCREASE THE PROPERTY TAXES OF THE HOUSES NEARBY.
SO, UM, IN ORDER TO KEEP THE PROPERTY TAXES, UM, LOWER AND HAVE NOT HAVE A NEGATIVE, UM, IMPACT ON THE PROPERTY TAXES OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, UM, THE I D Z ZONING IS, IS BEST BECAUSE IT'S GONNA ALLOW FOR SMALLER, LOTS SMALLER, UM, HOMES THAT WILL BE, UM, COMPLIMENTARY AND CONSISTENT WITH THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE LIVING SPACE OF THE SURROUNDING HOMES IN MEMORIAL HEIGHTS.
AND THAT WILL, UM, KEEP THE, THE PROPERTY TAXES LOW FOR THE SURROUNDING HOMES, OTHERWISE IT'S GONNA HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT, UM, ON THE, ON THE MEMORIAL HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO THE I D Z IS ACTUALLY GONNA HELP THEM WITH THEIR PROPERTY TAX ISSUE.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY REBUTTAL.
I I CAN'T THINK OF ANY OTHER ISSUES THAT THEY RAISED AS FAR AS LIKE, UM, THE, THE PEOPLE WHO WERE OPPOSED WHEN I LOOKED UP THEIR ADDRESSES THE LAST TIME.
UM, NONE OF THEM LIVE WITHIN THAT AREA.
MR. GARCIA LIVES ACROSS THE, THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE BRIDGE.
AND ORIGINALLY THE REASON WHY THEY WANTED TO KEEP THE PROPERTY THE WAY IT IS, IS BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO CONTINUE USING IT AS A PARK.
UH, MENES, WHO IS CURRENTLY THE, THE MAYOR'S ADVISOR, WAS THE ASSISTANT TO THE, UM, COUNCILMAN AT THE TIME.
AND, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY, THEY SAID THEY WANTED, THAT'S WHY THEY WANTED OPPOSED.
THE ZONING IS THEY CAN KEEP IT AS A PARK, BUT WE'D LIKE TO DEVELOP IT INTO, UH, HOMES THAT PEOPLE CAN AFFORD.
THIS, THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE CASE, SO YES, SIR.
COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU, MR. NAMOS, TO YOU FIRST.
IF WE CAN GET THE SITE PLAN UP PLEASE.
ONE THING THAT YOU, YOU MENTIONED A COUPLE OF TIMES DURING YOUR PRESENTATION WAS THAT THE REC CENTER WOULD BE CONTINGENT.
HOW DOES THAT WORK? I MEAN, GIVEN, NOW THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK MR. GARCIA HAS SAID IT, MR. MENDEZ HAS SAID IT, MEMORIAL HEIGHTS IS NOT IN SUPPORT.
UH, IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE DOING THIS AS AN IF THEN STATEMENT THEN IS THERE A REC CENTER, UH, GIVEN THAT MEMORIAL HEIGHTS DID NOT SUPPORT THIS, WHAT, WHAT
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IS THAT SPACE GONNA BE ON THIS SITE PLAN? WELL, THE REC CENTER WAS ALWAYS GONNA BE PART OF THE CHURCH.THE CHURCH WAS GOING TO MAINTAIN IT AND SO FORTH.
SO WE'VE ALWAYS STATED THAT FIRSTLY THE REC CENTER WAS, WAS SOMETHING THAT THEY REQUESTED.
SO WE ELIMINATED SEVEN HOMES TO MAKE ROOM FOR THE REC CENTER.
ORIGINALLY IT WAS 47 HOMES IN A CHURCH.
UM, THE MEMORIAL HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEMBERS AND SOME OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS, UM, WERE SAD BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO LEAVE IT VACANT AS A PARK.
THEY ENJOYED USING IT AS A PARK.
UM, AND WHEN COUNCILMAN SHIRLEY GONZALEZ AT THE TIME, UM, SAID THAT SHE DIDN'T WANT TO BUY THE PROPERTY AND DEVELOP IT EITHER AS A RECREATION CENTER, A COMMUNITY CENTER, OR A, OR A PARK, A CITY PARK, UM, THEY WERE UPSET WITH THAT AND ASKED, WELL, CAN WE SOMEHOW INCORPORATE A RECREATION CENTER? WE SAID, SURE.
SO WE ELIMINATED SEVEN HOMES AND MADE ROOM THAT LITTLE BRANCH, THAT LITTLE ARM INTO A RECREATION CENTER.
UM, AND AT THAT TIME THEY SAID, OKAY, SORRY.
I THINK, I THINK THAT ANSWERED MY QUESTION.
BUT WE CAN, WE CAN MAKE IT INTO WHATEVER THEY WANT.
I'M, I'M JUST GONNA ASK THIS QUESTION THEN.
BUT GIVEN THAT THERE IS SOME SPACE SET ASIDE FOR A RECREATION CENTER RIGHT.
ON THE SITE PLAN, RIGHT, UM, THAT'S WHAT IT'S GONNA BE PRETTY MUCH NO MATTER WHAT, RIGHT? IF WE GO WITH THE SITE PLAN, YOU ARE BOUND BY THE SITE PLAN, CORRECT? IS THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING? I, MY UNDERSTANDING IS, IS THAT IF WE WANT TO BUILD THAT ARM AND MAKE IT A RECREATION CENTER OR WHATEVER THEY WANT, WHETHER IT'S A LIBRARY, WHATEVER, OR IF WE WANNA NOT BUILD IT AND JUST LEAVE IT OPEN SPACE IF THEY WANT JUST OPEN SPACE.
STAFF TO YOU, GIVEN THAT THERE IS A RECREATION CENTER OR SOME BUILDING ON THIS SITE PLAN, WOULD THEY BE BOUND TO HAVE THAT SITE PLAN AS PART OF THE ZONING REGULATION? YES.
SO THEY'LL HAVE THE ITEMS THAT ARE LISTED ON THE SITE PLAN.
HOWEVER, BETWEEN NOW AND CITY COUNCIL, THAT CAN CHANGE.
THEY CAN AMEND THEIR SITE PLAN TO BECOME SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND THEN WHATEVER COUNCIL APPROVES AND IS ON THAT SITE PLAN IS WHAT GOES FORWARD.
I HATE IT WHEN YOU GET AHEAD OF ME.
I WAS GONNA ASK THAT QUESTION NEXT.
ALRIGHT, SO MS. RAMOS, BACK TO YOU.
UM, AT THE TOP OF THIS SITE PLAN THERE IS, YOU KNOW, ONE AND TWO STORY HOMES.
WE SEE IT A COUPLE OF TIMES HERE.
IS THERE ANY INDICATION AS TO WHICH HOME IS WHICH? IS THERE LIKE CERTAIN ONES THAT ARE BE GONNA BE ONE STORY, CERTAIN ONES THAT ARE GONNA BE TWO STORY? UH, WE DON'T KNOW.
UH, WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNER AND I TALKED ABOUT IF THERE'S SOME SORT OF WAY TO LIKE, BEFORE THEY'RE CONSTRUCTED.
IF HE ENDS UP SELLING LOTS AHEAD OF TIME, THEN THE, I GUESS THE PROPERTY OWNER, THE NEW PROPERTY OWNER COULD DECIDE WHAT, WHAT THEY WANT BUT HE'S NOT OPPOSED TO ONE STORY.
STAFF AS IT STANDS, THIS IS I D Z ONE, WHICH CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IS, UH, 35 FEET, TWO AND A HALF STORIES.
AND, AND THEY'LL BE BOUND TO THAT.
DOES THIS ONE AND TWO STORY INDICATION DO ANYTHING GIVEN THAT REQUIREMENT? CAN YOU EXPOUND ON THAT A LITTLE BIT? POSSIBLY.
UM, SO WE MADE SOME CHANGES TO THE U D C RECENTLY.
UH, THEY WENT IN EFFECT JANUARY 1ST AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE SAID WAS THAT ITEMS INDICATED ON THE SITE PLAN WOULD BE ENFORCEABLE AS PART OF THE ZONING REGULATION, CORRECT? YES.
ALRIGHT, SO GIVEN THAT WE HAVE ONE AND TWO STORIES HERE, UH, I MEAN DOES THAT MEAN THAT ONE WE, WE GET RID OF THE TWO AND A HALF STORY? 'CAUSE WE KNOW THAT AT THE MAXIMUM THERE'S TWO.
UM, AND THEN I GUESS AS A SUBSET OF THAT, DOES THERE HAVE TO BE ANY ONE STORIES AT THAT POINT OR IS THERE ANY INDICATION AS TO HOW THIS ONE AND TWO STORY NOTATION WOULD BE ENFORCED OR IS IT ENFORCEABLE AS PART OF THE REGULATION? SO IF YOU PUT ONE OR TWO STORIES, YES WE'RE GONNA HOLD THEM TO WHATEVER THAT LIMITATION IS.
HOWEVER, THE I D Z ONE AS YOU HAVE STATED, DOES ALLOW UP TO TWO AND A HALF STORIES.
UM, WHAT WE LOOK AT AS FAR AS WHENEVER THERE'S A MA A MAJOR SITE PLAN AMENDMENT OR ANYTHING TO THAT DEGREE IS IF THE DENSITY HAS CHANGED TO MORE THAN WHAT IS PROPOSED.
AND PRESUMING THAT THERE ARE 37 UNITS, THEY CAN BE ONE AND TWO STORY PER THE CURRENT SITE PLAN.
WITH THOSE APPROXIMATE FOOTPRINTS OR, YES, IF YOU WANT I CAN CHANGE IT TO A MAXIMUM OF TWO AND A HALF STORIES TO INCLUDE ONE IN TWO STORIES IF THAT MAKES IT EASIER.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE THERE YET.
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WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSION ON, AND I'VE GOTTEN INDICATION FROM CITY COUNCIL STAFF IS THAT THERE IS NO TRAFFIC STUDY.AND I NOTICED IN THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION STAFF'S MEMO ON THIS ITEM, UM, THERE'S AN INDICATION THAT A TRAFFIC STUDY WILL BE PERFORMED AS PART OF THE BUILDING PERMITTING PROCESS.
AND CAN I MAKE A CLARIFICATION ON THAT? SURE.
WHEN I SPOKE WITH PLANNING STAFF A COUPLE YEARS AGO, AND THEN ALSO MORE RECENTLY IS THAT BEFORE THEY DECIDE ON THE FUTURE USE OF A LOT ON A COMMUNITY PLAN AND ALSO WITH ZONING, THEY DO A TRAFFIC STUDY.
THIS MIGHT HAVE BEEN 10 YEARS AGO WHENEVER IT WAS, BUT THE POINT IS, IS THAT WHEN BEFORE THEY DECIDE THAT THIS, UH, THIS LOT WAS APPROPRIATE FOR OUR SIX ZONING, THEY HAD TO DO SOME SORT OF OF STUDY.
SO, UM, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, LIKE WHENEVER WE SUBMIT A BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATION, UM, THEY ALWAYS LOOK AT THE, THE TRAFFIC AND HAVE US PREPARE T I A AND SO FORTH.
AND, AND STAFF AS PART OF THE PROCESS OF REVIEWING THIS APPLICATION, STAFF FOUND NO ADVERSE IMPACT, CORRECT? CORRECT.
WHAT WOULD THAT CONSIST OF? FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE? THIS IS LOOKING AT THE EXISTING AND SURROUNDING ZONING, THE INTENSITY OF THE PROPOSED USE, THIS IS LIMITED INTENSITY, UH, INFILL DEVELOPMENT.
THE, UH, IT LOOKS AT THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT POTENTIALLY COULD BE THERE.
IF YOU HAD THE EXISTING R SIX DEVELOPED OUT WITH ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS, IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE UP TO 50 UNITS.
AND SO THIS IS A DECREASE IN DENSITY.
IT IS HAD A SITE PLAN, EVERYTHING IN THE AREA IS RESIDENTIAL.
THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE MISSING MIDDLE AS FAR AS RESIDENTIAL TYPES IN THE AREA.
AND SO THOSE WERE SOME OF THE CONSIDERATIONS AS WELL AS THE CITY'S GOAL WITH THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.
AND I THINK MY FINAL QUESTION FOR RIGHT NOW IS ALSO TO STAFF KEEPING Y'ALL ON THE HOT SEAT.
UM, THERE IS NO NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICT IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, CORRECT? THERE IS NOT, THIS IS NOT A HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD? NO, SIR.
AND THOSE ARE THE TWO WAYS, TWO PRIMARY WAYS THAT DESIGN, LET ME JUST CLARIFY THAT THIS IS NOT A DESIGNATED HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD.
SORRY, I KNEW I WAS ASKING THE WRONG QUESTION.
THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
SO BECAUSE IT'S NOT A NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICT AND BECAUSE IT'S NOT A DESIGNATED HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, UM, THERE IS NO MEANS OF REGULATING DESIGN ELEMENTS, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND WE AS A ZONING COMMISSION DO NOT CONSIDER DESIGN ELEMENTS AS PART OF OUR ANALYSIS.
UH, AT THIS TIME I'LL PASS TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.
ALRIGHT, QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.
COMMISSIONER WATSON, UH, QUESTION FOR STAFF.
UM, THERE'S BEEN A MENTION OF A RIGHT TURN ONLY SIGN IN THE PRESENTATION THAT WE'VE HAD.
CAN THAT ACTUALLY BE ENFORCED BY THE APPLICANT? OR WHAT WOULD THE PROCESS BE FOR THEM TO ACTUALLY PUT THAT ON THE PROPERTY? THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO EVALUATE WHETHER THAT CAN, IS ACTUALLY FEASIBLE.
I DON'T KNOW IF MS. RAMOS HAS SPOKEN TO TRAFFIC AND, AND, AND A CERTAIN SIGNAGE FOR, FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.
I MEAN, THEY CAN PROPOSE THAT THEY'RE DOING IT, BUT WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THE ACTUAL BUILDING CODE AND THE REGULATIONS FOR TRAFFIC AND SIGNAGE, IT'S GONNA COME DOWN TO THAT PREVAILING BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE, WE HAVE TO GO WITH THE CURRENT CODE ON THAT.
AND THEN, THEN CAN YOU PLEASE CONFIRM FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE AUDIENCE THAT WE CANNOT MAKE A DECISION OR ENFORCE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS? THAT'S CORRECT.
WE, UH, YOU DO NOT HAVE DEEDED RESTRICTIONS AS PART OF YOUR PURVIEW.
THEY'RE NOT ENFORCEABLE BY THE CITY OR BY THE ZONING COMMISSION.
UM, AND THEN I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
UM, ARE YOU PLANNING ON DEV OR IS THE APPLICANT PLANNING ON DEVELOPING THIS, UH, SITE AS A SUBDIVISION ON HIS OWN OR IS HE PLANNING ON SELLING THE LOTS TO ANOTHER DEVELOPER, CUSTOM HOME BUILDER, ET CETERA? NO, HE, UM, MY, MY CLIENT IS PLANNING ON DEVELOPING IT HIMSELF.
SO HE'S GOING TO ACTUALLY DO THE CONSTRUCTION, MANAGE THAT HIMSELF? CORRECT.
AND DO YOU WANNA TALK TO HIM DIRECTLY? UH, NO, THAT'S FINE.
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THE, AS FAR AS THE CHURCH IS CONCERNED, IS THIS CHURCH COMMUNITY THAT IS BEING PROPOSED, OBVIOUSLY THE CHURCH IS A STRUCTURE, BUT IS THERE LIKE AN EXISTING CHURCH COMMUNITY THAT IS GOING TO BE USING THE CHURCH OR WILL IT BE LIKE NEWLY PLANTED CHURCH? WHAT KIND OF TYPICAL, AND DEPENDING ON THAT, WHAT'S THE TYPICAL, UH, CAPACITY THAT YOU WOULD BE EXPECTING OR OTHER KINDS OF USE OF THAT BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY? I'LL ASK MY CLIENT TO RESPOND TO THAT, PLEASE.UM, I'M CURRENTLY ENGAGING IN CONVERSATIONS WITH OTHER CHURCHES FROM OTHER AREAS TO BE ABLE TO PLANT AND FINANCIALLY SUPPORT A CHURCH IN THIS AREA TO, TO WHERE WE'RE BRINGING THOSE COMMUNITIES TOGETHER.
A SIZE OF IT, UM, WILL, WILL MAXIMIZE HOWEVER MUCH THAT THAT ZONING WILL ALLOW US TO, EVEN THE LAND THAT WE HAVE AS BIG AS WE CAN MAKE IT.
UM, AND SO WHAT WHATEVER THAT, THAT OPPORTUNITY IS TO, TO MAKE IT THAT SIZE, THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO.
SO CURRENTLY YOU WOULDN'T KNOW NECESSARILY PROPOSED DIMENSIONS OR ATTENDANCE CAPACITY, ET CETERA? CORRECT.
QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.
COMMISSIONER FUENTES, UM, QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
SO, UM, JUST PUTTING THIS QUESTION OUT THERE, UH, WHAT WOULD BE THE ABSOLUTE MINIMUM, UH, NUMBER OF LOTS THAT YOU WOULD NEED TO MAKE THIS PROJECT BE PROFITABLE BEING AND ACCEPTABLE? THE 37.
OKAY, SO I WAS, I WAS, YOU KNOW, JUST TAKING A LOOK AT YOUR, YOUR DIAGRAM THERE AND SEEING, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ABOUT FIVE LOTS RIGHT THERE AT THE FRONT ALSO, UH, JUST I GUESS SOUTH OF THE, THE CHURCH AND JUST TRYING TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE ISSUES OF, OF CONGESTION, IF THERE WERE, UH, WAS THE POSSIBILITY TO LOSE THOSE FIVE LOTS, UH, POSSIBLY ADD MORE SPACE, UH, MORE ROOM, MORE CAPACITY FOR YOUR CHURCH.
UM, I THINK THAT THAT COULD DIAL BACK ON SOME OF THAT, THAT CONGESTION THAT THE COMMUNITY IS, IS WORRIED ABOUT.
UM, YOU'RE LOOKING AT, UH, TAKING ANYWHERE FROM 10 TO 20 CARS OFF, OFF THE ROAD, UH, RIGHT THERE.
BUT, UM, YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO POSE THAT QUESTION TO Y'ALL.
I THINK IT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION.
UM, I'LL TELL YOU THE MINDSET THAT WE'VE COME FROM IS CURRENTLY AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN SAN ANTONIO IS APARTMENTS EVERYWHERE THEY'RE BOOMING, RIGHT? WELL, THE MINDSET IS OUR, OUR FAMILIES WHO CURRENTLY LIVE IN APARTMENTS AND BEING ABLE TO GO, WOW, I'M NOT ON TOP OF SOMEONE.
IT'S A TRANSITIONAL PLACE WHERE THEY'RE STARTERS, THEY'RE YOUNG, UM, IN THEIR BUILDING.
SO IT'S, IT'S UH, THAT'S, THAT'S WHY IT'S MORE FEASIBLE TO HAVE THIS.
UM, AND THEN THE OTHER PART OF THAT STORY IS EXACTLY THE QUESTION YOU ASKED.
HOW, WHAT'S THAT MAGIC NUMBER? UM, THIS IS A PIECE OF LAND WITH NO INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO AS YOU CAN IMAGINE THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH IT, UM, IT WOULD BE A MINIMUM OF 37 AND WE, WE TRIED TO CUT THIS EVERY WHICH WAY.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT? NONE.
I'VE ACTUALLY GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
UM, THE, AND ACTUALLY THEY'RE FOR, I THINK THEY'RE BOTH FOR STAFF.
UM, FIRST ONE IS, UM, YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE COULD BE 50 UNITS AND AN R SIX DESIGNATION THAT'S WITH ADUS, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
WOULD THIS PROPOSAL ALSO ALLOW ADUS? YES SIR.
SO THIS PROPOSAL ELIMINATES THE ADUS BECAUSE THE I D Z? CORRECT.
IT'S CAPPED AT WHAT'S ON THE SITE PLAN.
UM, AND THEN WOULD A CHURCH TRIGGER A, UM, A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AS WELL BASED ON ITS THE NUMBER IT COULD, YES.
UM, COULD, BUT I'D HAVE TO CONFIRM.
UM, I THINK THOSE ARE ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAD.
UM, SO BACK TO YOU COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE FOR A POSSIBLE MOTION.
MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY ACTUALLY FORGOT ONE QUESTION.
DO WE KNOW WHEN THIS WAS MADE? R SIX.
IT WAS ORIGINALLY IN 1945 C APARTMENT DISTRICT AND THEN IN 2003 IT WENT FROM MF TO R SIX.
UM, MR. CHAIR TO ME FOR A MOTION? YES, SORRY.
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THANK YOU MR. RAMOS.UM, ALRIGHT, WELL THIS IS A CASE WHERE IT'S A CLOSED CASE.
IN FACT, I WOULD SAY AS I WAS AT LAST MEETING, ALTHOUGH THANKFULLY WE WERE ABLE TO CONTINUE IT, UH, IT'S A KNIFE'S EDGE CASE FOR ME.
I COULD SEE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
I UNDERSTAND THE NEIGHBOR'S CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC, BUT THAT TRAFFIC COULD EXIST HERE UNDER CURRENT ZONING OR SOMETHING VERY, VERY CLOSE TO IT.
UM, AND I'M GONNA TAKE A PAGE OUT OF COMMISSIONER'S GREAT HOUSE'S BOOK HERE TO SORT OF GO OVER WHAT WE LOOK AT WHEN WE LOOK AT ZONING ISSUES, YOU KNOW, BY THE UNIVERSAL, UH, NOT UNIVERSAL UNIFORM DEVELOPMENT CODE.
WE LOOKED AT ADVERSE IMPACT ON NEIGHBORING LANDS.
WE LOOKED AT SUITABILITY AS PRESENTLY ZONED HEALTH SAFETY AND WEAR WELFARE PUBLIC POLICY AND THE SIZE OF THE TRACT.
IN THIS CASE, I FIND THAT I AGREE WITH THE ANALYSIS THAT STAFF PERFORMED, THAT THE REZONING AS REQUESTED, GIVEN THE LIMITATIONS THAT ARE IMPOSED BY THE I D Z ONE SITE PLAN, GIVEN THAT THE EXISTING PROPERTY IS ALREADY R SIX AND HAS BEEN FOR 20 YEARS, THE TRAFFIC ISSUE, AGAIN, I THINK THAT IS THE STRONGEST ARGUMENT TO MAKE.
AND THOSE OF US WHO HAVE CHILDREN IN OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS HERE, UM, THOSE OF US WHO LIVE NEAR THEM, WE KNOW THAT THESE ARE PROBLEMS THAT EXIST IN ALMOST EVERY SCHOOL.
UM, AND SO I UNDERSTAND THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S CONCERNS.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY FEEL THAT THERE'S A GREAT DEAL OF ADVERSE IMPACT AGAINST THAT.
I ALSO HAVE THAT MEMORIAL HEIGHTS HAS BEEN OPPOSED TO EVERY SINGLE READ REZONING REQUEST EXCEPT FOR ONE, THERE'S BEEN ONE IN THE TIME THAT I'VE BEEN ON THIS COMMISSION WITH RESPECT TO TAXES.
UM, I THINK THERE IS CONCERN THAT IF WE WERE TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT WOULD INCREASE THE TAX BURDEN THAT WOULD INCREASE THE COMPARABLES THAT PEOPLE WOULD BE LOOKING AT HERE.
AND SO IN THE END, AND IT IS IN FACT WITH SOME RELUCTANCE 'CAUSE I THINK THERE ARE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE WITH RESPECT TO THE SITE PLAN.
THERE ARE QUESTIONS THAT I THINK WILL HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED BEFORE CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERS THIS.
FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT ABOUT THE RECREATION CENTER? ARE WE GONNA CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT? UH, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE CHURCH IS BASICALLY NON-NEGOTIABLE AND THAT, BY THE WAY, IS LARGELY OUTSIDE OF OUR HANDS BECAUSE CHURCHES UNDER OUR REGULATIONS CAN BE IN ANY ZONING DISTRICT.
UM, AND SO AGAIN, WITH RELUCTANCE, I WILL MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
AND I HOPE EACH ZONING COMMISSIONER WILL USE THEIR OWN JUDGMENT AND NOT BE SWAYED BY WHAT I FEEL.
UM, SORRY, AS YOU ALWAYS SHOULD, THE, THE MOTION IS, IS IS FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES.
UH, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER'S ON MY LEFT.
COMMISSIONER WATSON, I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
UM, THOUGH A CHURCH IS PERMITTED IN DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICTS, ANY ZONING DISTRICT, UM, THE I D Z ONE REQUIREMENTS, UH, REQUIREMENTS WAVE PARKING, AND, UH, BASED ON WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE APPLICANT ABOUT HIS UNDERSTANDING OF CAPACITY, UM, AND HOW UNCLEAR THE SITE PLAN IS IN TERMS OF PARKING SPACES, DIMENSIONS, ET CETERA, UM, BECAUSE OF THE DENSITY OF UNITS COMBINED WITH THE CHURCH, BASED ON THE SITE PLAN, I DO NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE, UM, SUPPORTING THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE ZONING BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT WILL CAUSE A BIGGER TRAFFIC BURDEN THAT IS UNFORESEEN AT THIS POINT.
AND THERE ARE OTHER ELEMENTS OF THE SITE PLAN THAT HAVEN'T BEEN VERY WELL THOUGHT THROUGH.
UM, THE, THERE'S TOO MUCH FLEXIBILITY FOR ME, UM, IN TERMS OF THE SPACE, UH, DIMENSIONS OF THE LOTS,
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ET CETERA.UM, AND EVEN THOUGH, UM, THE DEVELOPER HAS SAID THAT, OR THE APPLICANT HAS SAID THAT THEY'RE PLANNING ON DEVELOPING THOSE PROPERTIES, UM, MS. RAMOS ALSO MENTIONED THE PROPERTY OWNER CAN DECIDE ONE VERSUS TWO STORIES.
UM, I THINK I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE PERMITTING A ZONING TO GO FORWARD WITH A SITE PLAN THAT DOESN'T HAVE DIMENSIONS OR FOR A CHURCH OR PARKING SPACES OR THAT KIND OF THING, UM, IN THIS AREA WITH THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT CAN BE CAUSED.
UM, I ALSO THINK THAT THERE ARE SOME OTHER ASPECTS OF IT THAT HAVEN'T REALLY BEEN FULLY THOUGHT THROUGH.
UM, AND EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE 50 UNITS PERMITTED WITH THE CURRENT R SIX ZONING, IT WOULD STILL BE LOWER DENSITY BECAUSE IT WOULD BE WITH ADUS.
UM, AND I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BALANCE OUT SOME OF THE ISSUES WITH PROPERTY TAXES AND TRAFFIC.
UM, THAT'S A VERY D A 25 UNIT WITH 25 A D U DEVELOPMENTS WOULD LOOK VERY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IS PROPOSED HERE.
UM, AND WHILE THAT IS, UM, MORE APPRO, I THINK THAT'S MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AT THE MOMENT AND I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE LEAVING IT WITH OUR SIX ZONING BASED ON, UM, HOW UNCLEAR THE SITE PLAN IS FOR ME AT THIS POINT.
ANY COMMISSION? YEAH, I JUST WANNA MAKE A COUPLE POINTS.
UM, I'M GONNA SUPPORT THIS KNOWING THAT THE APPLICANT STILL HAS TO PASS TWO MORE BIG STEPS HERE.
UH, THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS IS GONNA REQUIRE THEM TO DO A LOT OF, UM, STUDIES AND TRAFFIC STUDIES AND POTENTIALLY ANOTHER EGRESS FROM THAT AREA.
SO KNOWING THAT THEY'RE, THEY GOTTA PASS ALL THAT AND GO THROUGH THE BUILDING PROCESS AND THE CITY PERMITS, UH, I WILL VOTE IN, IN FAVOR OF THIS.
OH, OH YES, COMMISSIONER NICKS.
SORRY I WAS, I WAS HIDING BACK HERE.
UM, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC.
THAT'S, THAT'S MY PROFESSION AND I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS PRIMARILY IN THE FACT THAT 37 UNITS GENERATING TRAFFIC IS GONNA BE LESS THAN WHAT BE ALLOWED WITH THE R SIX.
THERE'S GONNA BE A TRAFFIC CONCERN NO MATTER WHAT.
UH, PARTICULARLY AROUND SCHOOLS.
WE'VE DONE A LOT OF STUDIES AROUND SCHOOLS, NOT THIS ONE, BUT THERE IS CONCERN, BUT I AM CONCERNED THE FACT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT GENERATING LESS TRAFFIC THAN THE INTENDED OR THE ALLOWED USE WOULD ALLOW FOR, AND FOR THAT REASON, I'LL BE SUPPORTING THIS.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.
ANY COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? UM, I'LL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION, UM, BECAUSE OF COMMISSIONER BUS DE'S, UM, REALLY WELL THOUGHT OUT ANALYSIS SOLELY NOT BECAUSE OF MY OWN VOLITION AT ALL.
UM, NO, ALL JOKING ASIDE, UM, I I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE, UM, ANALYSIS THAT'S GONE INTO IT.
AND I ALSO APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER WATSON'S CONCERNS AS WELL.
BUT, UM, I I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE DIDN'T MENTION THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO ALSO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT IS PUBLIC POLICY.
AND I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT, UH, THE APPLICANT IS TRYING TO DO HERE WITH PROVIDING TRANSITIONAL HOMES FOR FOLKS WHO ARE TRYING TO MOVE OUT OF APARTMENTS AND MOVE INTO SINGLE FAMILY HOME OWNERSHIP.
AND I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT TO OUR COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW, GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE ARE IN A HOUSING CRISIS, WHICH EVERYONE UP HERE IS TIRED OF HEARING ME TALK ABOUT, BUT THAT'S MY COMMISSIONER NIX IS IN TRAFFIC.
SO I JUST THINK THAT THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT, UM, FACTOR THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER IN ADDITION TO ALL OF THE OTHER FACTORS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
SO THAT'S WHY I'LL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
REAL QUICK, AND I'LL TELL YOU, I, UM, CHAIR, OH, SORRY, SORRY, COMMISSIONER.
UM, JUST REIT KIND OF REITERATING WHAT, UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE SAID, I, I DO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE ANOTHER RENTAL PROPERTY.
THAT IT WILL PROVIDE THE COMMUNITY WITH MORE HOME OWNERSHIP AND MORE, UM, OF A PERMANENT STANCE IN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, AND THAT, THAT IS ONE OF MY LARGEST REASONS FOR SUPPORTING THIS PROJECT.
UM, I WILL AGREE WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE THAT THIS IS ON THE KNIFE'S EDGE.
UM, HOWEVER, I, I REALLY APPRECIATED, UM, COMMISSIONER WATSON'S COMMENTS AND IT'S A PROJECT THAT IN MY OPINION IS ALMOST THERE.
IF IT WAS 30 UNITS, I WOULD SEE NO ISSUE WITH IT.
AND I KNOW IT'S ONLY EIGHT UNITS MORE, OR SEVEN UNITS MORE.
BUT AT, AT, I, I STILL HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS ON, ON, UH, THE IMPACT TO THE TRAFFIC.
IF IT WAS DOWN RIGHT ON NORTHWEST, IS IT 34TH? OR IF IT WAS DOWN THE BLOCK WHERE IT WAS CLOSER TO, UM, THE, UM, R FOUR ZONING EVEN THIS WOULD, THIS
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WOULD EASILY, UM, FOR ME BE A, A A NO BRAINER.BUT WHERE IT'S LOCATED, UM, IT'S, IT'S JUST NOT THERE YET.
AND SO AT, AT THIS TIME, I CAN'T SUPPORT THE MOTION, BUT THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE.
I'M AFRAID I FORGOT WHO SECONDED IT.
IF WE COULD HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.
UM, ITEM NUMBER SIX I BELIEVE IS NEXT.
GOOD AFTERNOON AND BENAVIDEZ ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER SIX IS LOCATED AT 3 3 8 ALICIA AVENUE AND IS A REQUEST TO GO FROM R SIX TO R M SIX WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
THERE ARE 36 NOTICES SET WITH SIX RETURN IN FAVOR, THREE IN OPPOSITION AND LOMA PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR.
STAFF DOES NOT FIND ADVER EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS.
IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THE CURRENT R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE, UH, THE PROPOSED RM SIX IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING DESIGNATION.
THE PROPOSED RM SIX WILL PERMIT TWO UNITS ON THE PROPERTY AND THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY WILL REQUIRE THE TWO UNITS BE ATTACHED AS ONE STRUCTURE.
ADDITIONALLY, THE RMM SIX ALIGNS WITH THE GOALS OF THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, WHICH AIMS TO CREATE ADDITIONAL HOUSING OPTIONS TO MEET THE GROWING POPULATION.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IF WE COULD HAVE THAT APPLICANT COME AND GIVE US A PRESENTATION ON YOUR APPLICATION.
MY NAME IS GUILLERMO GOMEZ AND I OWN THE 3 3 8 ALICIA AVENUE LOT.
AND THIS WILL BE, CAN YOU PLEASE PUT, THIS WILL BE MY PROPOSAL ON BUILDING A DUPLEX ON MY EMPTY LOT.
THERE ARE SOME EXISTING DUPLEXES.
THIS IS ONE AND THIS ONE WILL BE LOCATED ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE ACROSS THE STREET FROM MY LOT.
AND THESE TWO DUPLEXES ARE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE ON THE SAME STREET FROM MY LOT.
UM, I, LAST TIME I CAME HERE I DID THE MISTAKE OF NOT SPEAKING, UH, WITH MY NEIGHBORS IN REGARDS TO THIS.
I WENT AHEAD AND SPOKE TO OTHER NEIGHBORS THAT LAST TIME, UH, WERE OPPOSED.
AND BY LOOKING AT MY PROPOSAL, UM, THEY ARE NOW IN FAVOR.
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? YES, WE HAVE A MS. PHILLI, UH, EZ ESPINOZA HERE TO SPEAK.
MS. ESPANZA, UH, FELICITAS ELIZABETH ESPINOZA, 3 48 ALICIA TWO TEN THREE FIVE FIVE NINE FOUR FIVE ONE.
AND WE DID AS Y'ALL UH, REQUESTED, UM, UH, COMMISSIONER FUENTES, WE BOTH WENT TOGETHER WITH MS. KILMORE.
WE ALL MET AND I DID, SHOWED WE SHOWED HIM SOME OF THE STUFF.
FOR EXAMPLE, THAT RIGHT THERE.
AND THERE'S NO EMPTY LOTS WHERE WE'RE AT THAT SYRINGES IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE.
AND I STAYED OUT THERE FOR THREE HOURS TO MAKE SURE, 'CAUSE THAT'S WHEN THE KIDS WERE GONNA GET OUT OF SCHOOL, MAKING SURE NOBODY GOT TO IT.
WE HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES, YOU DON'T NEED TO HAVE EMPTY SPOTS.
BUT HE AGREED TO WORK WITH US.
WE ALL HAVE HIS NUMBER AND AS YOU CAN SEE, I'M VERY PERSISTENT.
AND NOW HE SAID HE AGREED TO WORK WITH ALL OF US AND WE'RE HAPPY AND HE'S HAPPY.
WE'RE JUST GONNA MAKE IT A WIN-WIN SITUATION.
WE JUST WANTED HIM TO, FOR HIM, HIM TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS REALLY GOING ON 'CAUSE HE ONLY SHOWS UP WHEN PEOPLE LEFT.
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BUT NOW HE'S AGREED TO KEEP UP WITH US AND FOR US, US TO WORK TOGETHER.AND I ALSO WENT TO THE CAPTAIN AT THE WEST SIDE AND I'M GONNA BE, UH, PARTICIPATING TO MAKE SURE, 'CAUSE EVER SINCE, UH, OUR GOVERNOR ALLOWED FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE GUNS WITHOUT A PERMIT, WE HAVE SHOTS COMING ALL OVER THE PLACE.
SO I WILL BE AN ACTIVE PERSON TO MAKE SURE THIS GOES FORWARD.
I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I THANK MR. GOMEZ FOR GOING AND SHOWING US WHAT HE WANTED TO DO.
ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? NO, THERE IS NOT.
THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE CASE, SO TO YOU.
ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.
BACK TO YOU, COMMISSIONER BUSANTE.
UM, THIS WAS ORIGINALLY ON CONSENT.
AT THE LAST MEETING, UH, MS. ESPINOZA SHOWED UP AND WE PULLED IT FROM CONSENT AND MR. FUENTES IN MY STEAD WAS ABLE TO CONTINUE IT TODAY WITH THE EXACT KIND OF INSTRUCTION.
I WOULD HOPE WE ALL GIVE AND EVERYONE TAKES AWAY FROM THESE MEETINGS.
UH, THIS IS SORT OF THE IDEAL SITUATION WHERE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITIES ARE WORKING TOGETHER TO MAKE THEM AS GOOD AS POSSIBLE AND TO SOLVE THE PROBLEMS THAT WE NEED EVERYONE'S HELP WITH.
SO FOR THAT REASON, I AM MOVED TO APPROVE ITEM SIX.
I WILL SAY THANK YOU COMMISSIONER FUENTES.
COMM UH, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARROS.
WELL, I THINK WE CAN MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, PLEASE.
MY NAME IS ADOLFO GONZALEZ, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS LOCATED AT 8 8 2 5 NEW LAREDO HIGHWAY GOING FROM C THREE R AND N P 10 TO L LIGHT INDUSTRIAL WITHOUT OVERLAY STAYING THE SAME.
THE APPLICANT IS ALSO AMENDING THE PROPERTY BOUNDARIES.
THERE WERE 13 NOTICES SENT OUT.
ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
THE PROPOSED C THREE R IN GENERAL, COMMERCIAL RESTRICTIVE ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT IS APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
WHILE THE SMALL SECTION OF NMP 10 NEIGHBORHOOD PRESERVATION DISTRICT IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE ZONING.
THE PROPOSED L LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT IS ALSO AN APPROPRIATE ZONING AND CONSOLIDATES THE ZONING OF THE PROPERTY.
THERE IS I ONE, UH, GENERAL INDUSTRIAL TO THE NORTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND C THREE AND A GENERAL COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC CELLS.
UH, THE PROPOSED REZONING REQUEST IS TO PERMIT THE USE OF LONG-TERM VEHICLE STORAGE ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
SOME OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY VACANT.
A LARGE PORTION OF THE AREA, INCLUDING THE MAJORITY OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, ARE LOCATED WITHIN A FLOOD ZONE.
ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT ON THE PROPERTY WOULD REQUIRE SEVERAL EXTENSIVE DEVELOPMENT PROCESSES BEFORE EVEN BECOMING FEASIBLE FOR DEVELOPMENT, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO UN FLOODED ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY.
AND A LETTER OF MAP REVISION FOR THE FLOODPLAIN STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THIS, UH, ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT COME FORWARD AND TELL US ABOUT YOUR ZONING REQUEST.
MY NAME'S JULIE MATA AND I'M HERE FOR 88 25 NEW LAREDO HIGHWAY.
UH, SO, UH, THE LAND IS CURRENTLY ZONED C THREE R AND I WANNA REZONE IT TO L UH, THE PURPOSE STRICTLY JUST VEHICLE STORAGE.
UH, WE CURRENTLY HAVE VEHICLES THERE NOW.
UM, WE HAVE, UH, SALVAGE YARD ABOUT NOT EVEN FIVE MINUTES AWAY FROM THERE.
UH, WE JUST WERE, WE HAVEN'T BEEN OPEN NOT EVEN A YEAR.
WE'RE TRYING TO RESTRUCTURE OUR, OUR, UH, OUR PROPERTY THERE.
UM, BASICALLY THERE IS NO DISMANTLING, NO UH, UH, NO PROCESSING OF THE VEHICLES ON THAT PROPERTY, BASICALLY SOLELY JUST FOR STORAGE.
UM, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? YES, WE DO.
WE HAVE, UM, TWO SPEAKERS SIGNED UP.
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GER ADO TO BE FOLLOWED BY VICKI AO.UM, I'LL GIVE MY TIME TO JERRY.
SO THAT WILL GIVE JERRY FOUR MINUTES.
UM, YES, WE ALSO HAVE MR. LARRY GARCIA.
SO I'M GONNA PASS MY THREE MINUTES TO MR. GARCIA.
SO THAT GIVES MR. GARCIA NINE MINUTES.
AND THEN, UH, SIX MINUTES FOR MR. ARIANO.
UM, I'M WITH THE THOMPSON SQUARE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
IN OUR, ONE OF OUR SCHEDULED MEETINGS, WE HAD MULTIPLE PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT THE ILLEGAL SALVAGE YARD AT A D A 25 NEW LAREDO HIGHWAY.
AND ACTUALLY, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, ONE OF THEM COMPLAINING ABOUT THE, UH, UM, VENUE HALL LOCATED IN THE SAME ADDRESS.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR ME.
UH, LARRY GARCIA, 3 6 7 SARATOGA DRIVE.
SO, UM, I UNDERSTAND WHAT MS. MATA'S SAYING THAT THOSE CARS HAD BEEN THERE JUST FOR STORAGE, BUT, UH, LEMME KINDA GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A HISTORY OF WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THAT LOCATION.
THIS IS THE ORIGINAL FLOOR PLAN.
THE BUILDING'S ABOUT 16, ABOUT 15,000 SQUARE FEET, NOT INCLUDING THE QUO HUTT.
AND THIS IS ACTUALLY WHAT IT IS, UH, CURRENTLY.
SO WE'VE HAD ABOUT 10,000 SQUARE FEET ADDED TO THE BUILDING WITHOUT ANY PERMITS.
AND WHAT MY CONCERN IS, IS REALLY THAT IT IS A SALVAGE YARD.
THEY'RE USING IT AS I I HEAR THEY'RE NOT DISMANTLING VEHICLES, BUT THEY ARE USING IT AS A SALVAGER.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE PURCHASING FROM THE PUBLIC AND THEY'RE ALSO, UM, STORING MOTORS AND, UH, OTHER REGULATED MATERIALS OUTSIDE.
I KINDA GIVE YOU SOME MORE PICTURES.
AND WE'RE LOOKING AT, WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS RIGHT ON THE CREEKS OF THE LEON, UH, THE RIGHT ON THE, ON THE BANKS OF THE LEON CREEK.
SO ANY, UH, RAINS, UH, IS WE'RE GETTING STRAIGHT, THE RUNOFF STRAIGHT INTO THE WATER.
HERE'S PICTURES OF THE MOTORS.
SO THEY'RE NOT ONLY DOING THIS ON THIS PROPERTY, BUT THEY'VE ALREADY EXPANDED TO THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY.
THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE KEEPING THE PROCESS MATERIAL.
AND HAVE YOU NOTICED IN THIS PICTURE HERE, UH, WHERE THE BUS IS, DO YOU HAVE A, A POINTER? I CAN BAR WHERE THE BUS IS HERE? ALL THOSE ARE ENGINES.
SO YOU GOT MOTORS UP HERE TOO.
SO ANY RAINS, ANYTHING, EVERYTHING'S GOING STRAIGHT INTO THE RIVER.
EVEN WITH THOSE PARKED CARS, THEY'RE NOT BEING, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE UP ON BLOCKS.
THEY'RE, UH, THEY'RE LEAKING OIL CARS, WHEN THEY'RE SITTING FOR A LONG TIME, THEY START TO CORRODE AND YOU START GETTING OIL, UH, LEAKAGE AND OTHER FLUIDS.
AND THAT'S ALSO GOING STRAIGHT INTO THE CREEK.
HERE'S JUST SOME MORE PICTURES.
AND AS I SAID, UH, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN A FLOOD ZONE AND THERE'S A FLOOD ZONE MAP.
SO WE DO OPPOSE, UH, THE REZONING.
'CAUSE I, I FEEL THAT IT'S KIND OF A BACKWARDS WAY OF GETTING INTO LETTING THEM HAVE A SALVAGE YARD.
AND THEN FOLLOWED TO BE BY MR. GER ARIANO, PLEASE JUST GIMME A PHONE.
UH, JERRY ARDO, ONE ZERO FOUR ZERO SIX, UH, LAF TRAIL.
WHAT THE BIGGEST CONCERN IS, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, WHEN WE, WHEN WE GOT HERE, THEY SAID THE PROPERTY WAS BEING AMENDED FOR TODAY'S HEARING TODAY.
AS OF RIGHT NOW, I STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT AMENDMENT IS, THEREFORE, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE HERE FOR.
UH, I MEAN, ZONING FOR WHAT PROPERTY.
AND IF I COULD ASK STAFF TO TELL US WHAT, 'CAUSE WHEN I ASKED STAFF, THEY SAID, WE DON'T KNOW EITHER.
WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THAT WE WERE GIVEN AN AMENDED REQUEST FOR TODAY.
BUT WE DON'T HAVE VERIFICATION AS TO WHAT EXACTLY THAT IS.
'CAUSE THEY SAID THE, ESPECIALLY WHEN THAT THIS PROPERTY IS REALLY BORDERING THE FLOODPLAIN, THE BIGGEST ISSUE ON FLOODPLAIN IS YOU HAVE MOTORS AND, UH, THE, UH, MOTORS THAT ARE SITTING ON THE GROUND, THAT'S
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A DIFFERENT ZONING ISSUE.THERE'S DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATION, I SHOULD SAY, BECAUSE MOTOR SEEP, UH, OIL.
AND UNLESS YOU THEN HAVE, UH, SAWS INVOLVED IN THE T C E Q, ALL THE DIFFERENT AGENCIES THAT REQUIRE THE, UH, THE PROPERTY TO BE INSPECTED ON A REGULAR BASIS, THEN YOU HAVE SOME ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES.
THOSE ARE OUR BIGGEST ISSUES THAT WE, WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
THE OTHER THING TOO IS, AND YOU CAN IMAGINE FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE IF AN H E B OR HOME DEPOT OR LOWE'S, EVEN WHEN THEY HAVE THEIR PARKING LOT, THEY HAVE TO HAVE IT ENGINEERED IN ORDER FOR WATER NOT TO SIT, BUT FOR OIL, I MEAN, OIL RATHER NOT TO SIT, BUT FOR THE OIL TO ACTUALLY GO INTO A, UH, A DRAINAGE.
SOMETHING SIMILAR TO GREASE TRAPS AS YOU DO IN, IN RESTAURANTS.
SO THE FIRST QUESTION I'D ASK RIGHT NOW IS, WHAT EXACTLY IS THE PROPERTY THAT IS BEING REQUESTED FOR TODAY'S HEARING? 'CAUSE I, I DON'T, AS OF RIGHT NOW, I STILL DON'T KNOW.
IS IT IN THE FLOODPLAIN? IS IT, DOES ANYBODY KNOW YET? I GUESS, UH, SO THE, THE, THE SITE PLAN IS BEING AMENDED OR THE PROPERTY IS BEING AMENDED OR, WELL, THERE'S NO SITE PLAN, BUT WE DID RECEIVE A, UM, UPDATED FIELD NOTES THAT IS THE PORTION TO, UM, PORTION TO THE NORTH OR TO THE NORTHWEST, I BELIEVE.
UM, WE RECEIVED THE, AGAIN, THE FIELD NOTES FOR SEVEN ACRES TOWARDS THE NORTHWEST.
THAT IS CONSIDERABLY OUTSIDE OF THE FLOODPLAIN.
WE DON'T HAVE A DIAGRAM OR ANYTHING.
UM, WE RECEIVED IT LATE THIS MORNING.
SO WE SENT IT TO OUR G I S FOLKS TO GET AN UPDATED MAP, BUT IT HAS NOT BEEN DONE YET.
WHAT, WHAT, WHAT EXACTLY IS IT? SO ANYWAY, THE, THE WHOLE POINT IS WITHOUT REGULATIONS, WITHOUT HAVING, AND WHEN I ASK STAFF IS THAT, THAT THEY ACTUALLY GO DO AN ONSITE, UH, INSPECTION OF THE PROPERTY TO FIND OUT ARE, YOU KNOW, DO WE HAVE OIL SPILLS? HOW ARE THE CARS BEING STORED? AND IS THERE ANY OTHER PRODUCTS, FOR EXAMPLE, MOTORS BEING, UH, STACKED ON THE PROPERTY.
ALSO BECAUSE ESPECIALLY MOTORS THAT ARE JUST STACKED ON THE PROPERTY, THEY'RE SEEPING OIL.
THE PROBABILITY OF THEM SEEPING OIL IS LIKE PROBABLY 99.99%.
SO THEY SAID, WELL, WE CAN'T GO DO AN INSPECTION.
THE ONLY THING WE DO IS TAKE A PICTURE OF THE PARAMETER OF THE PROPERTY, MAKE OUR, UH, OUR, UH, RECOMMENDATION, AND THEN PUT A SIGN ON IT THAT THIS PROPERTY IS BEING, UH, UH, REQUESTED A REQUEST ZONING FOR THAT PROPERTY.
SO THE CITY THEMSELVES, EVEN THOUGH Y'ALL HAVE A STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL, IT'S NOT BEEN INSPECTED TO FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT IS ON SITE.
AND WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS OUR, IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING 'CAUSE THEY DO HAVE A
SO WE'RE, WE'RE ASKING FOR, FOR DENIAL, BECAUSE IF THERE'S NO REGULATIONS, THAT ALSO MEANS THAT EVEN IN OTHER YARDS YOU HAVE TO HAVE, UH, UH, REGULATIONS FOR RODENTS AND, AND THINGS THAT, UH, THAT ARE DETRIMENTAL TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE AREA AS A WHOLE.
UM, SO WITH THOSE, UH, THOSE THINGS, RIGHT NOW, EVEN THE CITY THEMSELVES, IF YOU LOOK AT THEIR BOOK, THEY EVEN HAVE A BOOK THEMSELVES AS TO HOW THEY REGULATE THEIR OWN, UH, SITES.
AND THEY HAVE EIGHT SITES WITHIN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO TAKING CARE OF, UH, THOSE, ANY AIR AREA THAT NEEDS TO BE REGULATED, THEY REGULATE THEMSELVES ALSO.
AND WAS THAT THE, IS THAT THE LAST OF OUR PUBLIC SPEAKERS? YES, SIR.
UH, MS. MAHA, YOU HAVE A OPPORTUNITY FOR A SHORT REBUTTAL AND THEN WE'LL HAVE QUESTIONS.
SO, UH, WHAT THE GENTLEMAN WAS, UH, THE, THE PORTION OF WHERE HE MENTIONED THAT THERE'S ENGINES ON THE FLOOR, THAT'S THE FRONT PART OF THAT PROPERTY, WE'RE REQUESTING TO REZONE THE BACKSIDE WHERE IT WAS RESURVEYED.
IT'S, UH, THE BACKSIDE OF QUINTANA.
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UO OPERATES A MACHINE SHOP.HE HAS, UH, HE HAS A, A STORAGE INSIDE.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MR. RUGO RUNS HIS PROPERTY THERE, HIS BUSINESS THERE, BUT, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE REQUESTING TO REZONE IS NOTHING BUT VEHICLES.
THERE'S NO, UH, ENGINES ON THE FLOOR.
NO PARTS ON THE FLOOR, THERE'S NO LEAKING.
I'M WELL AWARE OF, UH, STAYING IN COMPLIANCE WITH T C E Q BECAUSE WE HAVE A SALVAGE YARD NOT TOO FAR FROM THERE.
SO YES, WE DO, UH, FOLLOW EVERY TYPE OF PROTOCOL, UH, THAT WE CAN, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE'RE TRYING TO GET REZONED, WE WANNA BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY.
UM, UH, AS FAR AS THAT, I ALSO HAVE SOME PHOTOS.
UH, THERE NO PARTS, UH, BEING SOLD THERE.
UH, THERE ARE SIGNS UP THERE, UH, THAT PARTS AREN'T, UH, BEING SOLD AND IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY.
UM, WHAT ELSE OF WE OF, UM, AS FAR AS ANY OIL LEAKS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT WE'VE SEEN, WE GO CHECK UP ON, WE MAKE SURE THAT THE YARD IS CUT.
UH, THERE'S, I MEAN, THEY'RE, WHAT THEY'RE REFERRING TO IS THE PRO IS, UH, MR. HUGO'S BUSINESS IN THE FRONT.
UM, THIS IS A DISTRICT FOUR QUESO COMMISSIONER KAMATH TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS.
SO THE, UH, DISTRICT FOUR IS A MAGNET FOR A LOT OF AUTO SALVAGE YARDS.
UH, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I CHECKED A STUDY, ALMOST TWO THIRDS OF THE AUTO SALVAGE, UH, PROPERTIES ARE REGISTER FOR.
SO THIS, THIS PARTICULAR CASE, UH, PRESENTS A VERY INTERESTING, UH, CASE FOR US.
UH, I WOULD, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS TO, UH, APPLICANT IF YOU WOULD PLEASE, UH, COME TO THE PODIUM.
SO WHEN I GOOGLE THE, UH, UH, AS I HAVE, I WOULD DRIVEN BY THERE, BUT I JUST GOOGLED THE, UH, LOCATION YOU HAVE, UH, HIGHLAND HILLS AUTOMOTIVE MACHINE SHOP.
IS THAT YOURS? UH, THAT'S MR. UO, UH, UO, UH, SANCHEZ.
THAT'S THE, THE FRONT PART THAT'S THE SAME OWNER? YES.
HE OWNS, UH, ALL THAT PROPERTY, WHICH IS THE 14 ACRES.
AND THEN ON THE SIDE HE OWNS AN ADDITIONAL 15.
AND TO OUR, TO OUR LEFT IS A PALLET SHOP.
SO, UH, WHICH PROPERTY THAT YOU ARE REQUESTING FOR THE REZONING NOW? IT, IT'S THE, THE REAR SEVEN ACRES.
IS THAT THE NEW SURVEY? YES, SIR.
THAT'S WHY THE FIELD NOTES WERE JUST, UH, SUBMITTED AS WELL.
SO ON THAT SURVEY, THERE IS A STRUCTURE.
IS THAT THE EXISTING BUILDING? THAT IS A CEMENT SLAB, JUST A CEMENT SLAB.
SO THE, UH, ALL THESE OTHER VEHICLES PARKED IN THE BACK? UH, THERE ARE ABOUT FOUR TO 500 VEHICLES PARKED THERE.
APPROXIMATELY A ABOUT, UH, MAYBE MORE ABOUT 1200? NO, MAYBE FIVE, 600 VEHICLES.
DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY? OH, IT'S, IT'S, I WOULD SAY ABOUT 1200 VEHICLES.
UM, ARE THEY, UM, HAVE THEY ALWAYS BEEN THERE OR ARE THEY YES.
UH, WE'VE BEEN THERE GOING ON, GOING ON A YEAR AND WE'VE BEEN USING THAT PROPERTY FOR VEHICLE STORAGE.
SO ARE THEY, UH, UH, STORED CERTAIN HEIGHT ABOVE THE GROUND, OR ARE Y'ALL ANY REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT? UH, AS FAR AS, SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE, UH, SOME VEHICLES, UH, WE PURCHASED THEM WITH TIRES OR WITHOUT, SOME ARE ON TIRES INFLATED, SOME ARE NOT.
UH, BUT WE'VE GONE BACK AND PUT RIMS UNDERNEATH THEM JUST SO THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
DO, WOULD Y'ALL NEED A USED AUTOMOTIVE PARTS, UH, RECYCLERS LICENSE FOR THIS KIND OF BUSINESS? UH, NO SIR.
'CAUSE WE ARE NOT PROCESSING OR DISMANTLING THERE.
WE JUST PURELY WANT 'EM FOR STORAGE AS WE'RE TAKING THEM OVER TO OUR SALVAGE YARD, WHICH IS ABOUT NOT EVEN FIVE MINUTES FROM THERE.
OH, YOU, SO YOU HAVE ANOTHER SALVAGE YARD? WE DO HAVE A SALVAGE YARD.
UH, WE JUST PER, WE JUST MOVED IN, UH, JULY LAST YEAR
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AND WE'RE, UH, WE'RE RESTART.WE'RE PRETTY MUCH FIXING IT UP, CREATING THE ROWS TO MOVE THOSE VEHICLES IN TO MAKE ROOM FOR THOSE VEHICLES.
HOW ABOUT A T C E Q? WOULD YOU NEED ANY, UH, CERTIFICATION FROM THEM AT THE VEHICLE? STORAGE? YEAH, NO SIR.
'CAUSE UH, AGAIN, THERE'S NO PROCESSING, NO LEAKING OF, OF OIL OR FLUIDS.
HOW, HOW ARE YOU SO SURE THAT IT WON'T LEAK BECAUSE YOU HAVE ALMOST MORE THAN 12 SOME 1200 VEHICLES? WELL, BECAUSE WE, BEFORE THE DRIVERS GO AND DROP THE VEHICLES THERE, I MEAN, THEY INSPECT THAT.
WE TELL THEM MAKE SURE THERE'S NOTHING LEAKING.
WE'D RATHER DE FLU, TAKE THE FLUIDS OUT THERE AND THEN WE'LL TAKE 'EM BACK TO STORAGE IF WE DON'T, IF WE'RE NOT GONNA PUT, KEEP THOSE THERE.
THAT'S ALL THE QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU.
OTHER COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? I HAVE A QUESTION.
ORTIZ APPLICANT, UM, ARE YOU LEASING THE PROPERTY FROM THE GENE HE KEEPS CLAIM FROM? YES, SIR.
I AM LEASING FROM HUGO SANCHEZ.
SO WHY ISN'T HE HERE AS THE OWNER OF THE LAND TO REQUEST HIS ZONING CHANGE? HE ASKED ME TO TAKE CARE OF IT FOR HIM ON HIS BEHALF.
SO REGARDING THE OTHER CONCERNS THAT THE NEIGHBORS HAD REGARDING THE OIL AND ALL THAT, WHO WOULD SPEAK FOR THAT? WOULD THAT BE YOU? THAT, THAT WOULD BE MR. MR. SANCHEZ.
I ACTUALLY QUESTION FOR STAFF IS, IS IN, I GUESS, ARE THEY ALLOWED TO DO THAT, NOT THE OWNER TO COME IN THE SOMEONE THAT'S LEASING THE PROPERTY TO COME AND CHANGE THE ZONING FOR THE OWNER HIMSELF? YES, SIR.
IT, WE HAVE THE LETTER OF AUTHORIZATION IN THE FILE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.
COMMISSIONER, WE THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.
SO EARLIER THE GENTLEMAN BACK THERE ASKED WHETHER THE, UH, YOUR PROPERTY WAS ON THE FLOODPLAIN.
UH, SO DID YOU SAY IT WAS OR WAS NOT ON THE FLOODPLAIN? IT, IT IS NOT.
HAVE STAFF, I'M LOOKING AT THE SAN ANTONIO RIVER AUTHORITY, UH, RISK MAP VIEWER.
DO YOU HAVE ACCESS TO THAT INFORMATION? BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT IT AND IT LOOKS LIKE THAT PROPERTY IS SMACK DAB RED IN THE FLOODPLAIN.
SO IF I'M NOT LOOKING AT IT CORRECTLY, PLEASE, THERE IS A PORTION OF IT IN THE FLOOD PLAIN.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT? NONE.
I'VE GOT A, I GUESS A QUESTION FOR STAFF OR, WELL, I GUESS A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT FIRST.
UM, SO, SO YOU BEGAN USING THIS PROPERTY ABOUT A YEAR AGO.
WAS THE PROPERTY USED FOR VEHICLE STORAGE BY SOMEONE ELSE PRIOR TO THAT OR NO, SIR.
OTHER THAN, UH, MISCELLANEOUS THINGS, MR. HAD.
UH, SANCHEZ, SORRY, UH, HAD ON THAT PROPERTY, UM, WHICH WAS LIKE, I, I BELIEVE LIKE A, A BIN.
UM, AND SO I GUESS A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
WHAT, WHAT WAS THE, OR WHO INITIATED, WELL, LEMME SEE, HOW AM I GONNA SAY THIS? THE REZONING REQUEST, WAS THIS DUE TO A CODE COMPLIANCE ISSUE OR, OR HOW DID THIS COME ABOUT? THERE ARE SOME, UH, ITEMS, UM, LISTED IN A CODE INVESTIGATION, UM, FOR WORKING OUTSIDE OF THE, THEIR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.
AND SO THAT LIKELY TRIGGERED THE NEED TO REZONE.
BACK TO YOU COMMISSIONER KAMATH POSSIBLE MOTION.
UH, LIKE I STARTED SAYING, UH, DISTRICT FOUR SOMEHOW ATTRACTS A LOT OF SALVAGE CARS.
THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS APPLICANT IS IN GOOD FAITH, UH, HAS, UH, DONE THE, UH, AUTOMOTIVE MACHINE SHOP FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND, UH, SOMEHOW, UH, IN THE PROCESS GOT, UH, GOT INTO THIS ADDITIONAL VEHICLES COMING IN AND GETTING, UH, PARKED IN THIS LARGE AREA THAT'S, UH, ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY, UH,
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THAT WAS BEING USED AS A, UH, HIGHLAND HILLS AUTOMOTIVE MACHINE SHOP OR WHATEVER.SO IT'S REALLY, UM, UM, GOING BACKWARDS INTO THE, UH, TRY TO GET THE ZONING REDONE OR COMPLIANCE WITH THE ZONE OR IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME TO, UH, APPROVE THIS APPLICATION.
BUT DENYING IT ALSO IS A VERY DIFFICULT STANCE HERE BECAUSE CITY HAS TO GO BACK AND DO A LOT OF, UH, MORE CITATIONS AND MORE INVESTIGATIONS.
BUT IN THE LONG RUN I THINK IT'D BE BETTER IF WE DO NOT HAVE THESE VEHICLES STORED, LIKE IN THIS MANNER, UH, IN OUR DISTRICT OR ANYWHERE ELSE.
SO I AM, UM, MAKING A MOTION TO DENY THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST FOR REZONING.
MOTION FOR DENIAL BY COMMISSIONER KAMATH.
I'M GONNA THAT YOU COMMISSIONER FUENTES? YES.
MOTION IS FOR DENIAL BY COMMISSIONER KAMATH, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES.
DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER ON MY LEFT.
COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE, YOU KNOW, LIKE DISTRICT FOUR, DISTRICT FIVE HAS HAD THESE CASES WHERE WE SEE SORT OF, UM, AUTO SALVAGE AUTO STORAGE CREEPING INTO PROPERTIES WHERE THEY MAY NOT BE APPROPRIATE.
AND AS A RESULT WE END UP HAVING SOME OF THESE VIOLATIONS.
UM, AS I SPOKE ABOUT IN ONE OF MY PREVIOUS CASES, ONE OF THE CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE IN IS HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE.
AND IF WE HAVE PROPERTY, I MEAN IF WE HAVE CARS THAT ARE JUNKED, EFFECTIVELY SALVAGED OR NOT SALVAGED, LET ME AVOID USING THAT WORD, BUT STORED IN A NON-OPERATIONAL MANNER IN A FLOODPLAIN, THAT TO MY MIND IS A DANGER TO HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE FOR, YOU KNOW, OUR COMMUNITIES GENERALLY GIVEN WATER ISSUES AND GIVEN, YOU KNOW, THE POSSIBILITY THAT SOME OF THESE THINGS MIGHT EVEN FLOAT OFF, UH, POTENTIALLY
SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
AND COMMISSIONER FUENTES JUST BEAT ME TO THE SECOND.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? NONE.
I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION AS WELL.
IF WE COULD HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE.
MOTION IS FOR DENIAL BY COMMISSIONER KME.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES.
ALRIGHT, WELL WE ARE GONNA TAKE A, IS IT BREAK TIME YET? IT IS BREAK TIME.
SO WE WILL, UM, TAKE A SHORT RECESS FOR ABOUT FIVE MINUTES.
UM, IT IS THREE 18 AND WE ARE, THE ZONING COMMISSION IS BACK IN SESSION.
SO I GUESS WE'RE MOVING ON TO WHAT CASE ARE WE ON NOW? CASE 12.
ANN BETA'S ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER 12 IS LOCATED AT 3 3 0 WEST HERMOSA DRIVE AND IS A REQUEST TO GO FROM R FIVE TO R FIVE CD WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
THERE ARE 36 NOTICES SET WITH ZERO RETURN IN FAVOR TO AN OPPOSITION AND NO RESPONSE FROM EDISON.
NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
THE CURRENT R FIVE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY.
THE PROPOSED R FIVE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO UNITS IS ALSO APPROPRIATE.
CHANGE OF ZONING REQUESTS, WHICH INCLUDED CONDITIONAL USE, WILL REQUIRE THE DEVELOPMENT BE HELD TO A PRESCRIBED SITE PLAN THAT WILL ADDRESS THINGS LIKE
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PARKING AND THE LAYOUT OF THE PROPERTY, PROHIBIT EXPANSION OF THE UNITS AND WILL LIMIT THE DENSITY TO TWO UNITS.ANY DEVIATION FROM THE APPROVED SITE PLAN WILL REQUIRE ADDITIONAL COUNSEL CONSIDERATION.
ADDITIONALLY, THE REQUEST ALIGNS WITH THE GOALS OF THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN BY INCREASING THE AVAILABILITY OF HOUSING TO HELP WITH THE GROWING POPULATION OF THE CITY.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
AND IF WE COULD MAKE A, A NOTE THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER BARTOS, UH, LEFT THE MEETING AT WHEN WE WENT ON BREAK.
IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE.
MY NAME IS ANNA COSTA AND ME AND MY HUSBAND, WE OWN THE PROPERTY ON THREE 30 HERMOSA DRIVE.
AND, UH, WE ARE REQUESTING TO ZONING, UH, OUR FIVE WOOD CONDITIONING DWELLING FOR TWO PROPERTIES.
UM, WE HAVE NOT DONE ANYTHING TO THE PROPERTIES.
WE BOUGHT THE PROPERTIES JUST LIKE THAT.
WE JUST, UH, THE ONLY THING WE DID WAS PAINTING AND SOME REMODELING INSIDE OF THE MAIN HOUSE, OBVIOUSLY.
UM, WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT THE HOUSE DID NOT, UH, COULD NOT RESIDE.
TWO PEOPLE THERE, TWO FAMILIES THERE ACTUALLY.
UM, BECAUSE THE PROPERTY HAD ACTUALLY HAS TWO NUMBERS AND WE BOUGHT IT JUST LIKE THAT WITH BOTH NUMBERS IN THERE.
SO IT, UH, 3, 3 2 AND 3 3, 3, 3 0.
SO WE'RE BASICALLY ASKING TO MAKE THINGS RIGHT WITH THE PROPERTY, JUST WITH THE RIGHT ZONING AND EVERYTHING.
DO WE HAVE ANY, UM, PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? NO, WE DO NOT.
SO THIS IS A DISTRICT ONE CASE, SO TO YOU COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE.
I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
UM, I'LL START WITH QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
UM, ARE THERE ANY OTHER ZONINGS IN THE AREA THAT ARE CONDITIONAL USES THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR MULTIPLE UNITS ON THE SINGLE FAMILY ZONED LOTS? ANN, GO.
THERE WASN'T ANY CONDITIONAL USES IN PROXIMITY, BUT WE DID NOTICE A TREND OF, UH, DETACHED STRUCTURES ON THE PROPERTIES DURING SITE VISITS.
THAT'S NOT THE SAME THING AS BEING PERMITTED BY RIGHT.
WITH THE ZONING, BUT IT WAS PRESENT IN THE AREA.
AND WERE ANY OF THOSE, UM, LIKE WITH MULTIPLE METERS OR? NOT THAT I NOTICED.
UM, OR MULTIPLE MAILBOXES OR LIKE MULTIPLE TRASH CANS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UM, AND THEN JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
UM, SO IS IT CURRENTLY HABITABLE THE BACK STRUCTURE? IS IT, IT'S CURRENTLY OCCUPIED BY SOMEONE WHO'S LIVING THERE? YES.
ARE THERE MULTIPLE METERS ON THE PROPERTY? YES, WE BOUGHT IT JUST LIKE THAT WITH THE METERS.
SO THAT'S WHY WE THOUGHT THE FIRST THOUGHT WE HAD WAS, OKAY, THEY'RE LEGAL BECAUSE IN ORDER FOR YOU TO PUT A METER ON THE PROPERTY, ME TALKING TO C P SS BEFORE EVERYTHING, UM, THEY SAID THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CONSENT BY THE CITY AND THAT PROPERTY HAVE TO HAVE A NUMBER.
SO THAT PROPERTY HAS A NUMBER AND IT HAS ALSO A MAILING ADDRESS.
'CAUSE WE ALSO WENT TO THE US UH, POSTAL SERVICES AND THEY SAID YES, THE HOUSE HAS A MAILING ADDRESS AS WELL.
IT'S JUST NOT, I GUESS NOT LEGALLY DONE.
UM, AND THEN ON YOUR, ON YOUR SITE PLAN, UM, I NOTICE THAT, UM, THERE'S NOT, UH, IT, IT GIVES THE SQUARE FOOTAGES FOR DWELLING UNIT 1, 923 SQUARE FEET, DWELLING NUMBER 2, 308 SQUARE FEET, AND THEN IMPERVIOUS COVER CONCRETE, IT'S NOT LISTED.
WAS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS WOULD BE ABLE TO LIST IF, UH, I'M SORRY.
SO IT WOULD BE IMPERVIOUS COVER ON, ON YOUR SITE PLAN IS NOT, IT'S NOT COMPLETED.
UM, SO WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO PUT IN? SO IT'S ESSENTIALLY SAYING HOW MUCH OF THE PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE COVERED WITH HARDSCAPING WITH CONCRETE? UM, NO, WE DON'T WANNA MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE PROPERTY THEN WE ALREADY HAS.
SO IS THAT, I'M SORRY, MAYBE I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING YOUR QUESTION, THAT YOU'RE BASICALLY ANSWERING MY QUESTION.
UM, BECAUSE THERE IS A, SO THE MAIN HOUSE, WHICH IS 3, 3 0, UM, WHICH IS THE FRONT HOUSE HAS A, UM, CONCRETE STRUCTURE IN THE BACK.
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UM, TO DO ANYTHING ELSE IN THE HOUSE OTHER THAN JUST LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS IF THIS IS APPROVED.SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
I I MAY HAVE AN ADDITIONAL QUESTION FOR YOU LATER.
UM, AND THEN PARKING, I DIDN'T SEE, UH, PARKING ON HERE.
SO HOW IS THE PARKING, UM, SET UP ON THIS? UM, SO I HAVE, CAN I HAVE PLEASE? I'M SORRY.
SO I HAVE, I MADE A SIDE PLAN.
IT WASN'T PERFECT, BUT, UM, SO I MADE IT WITH THE PARKING AREA.
SO THAT'S THE PARKING, BUT I HAVE THE MEASUREMENTS.
SO THIS IS THE PARKING AREA AND IT'S A PRETTY BIG PARKING SPACE.
IT CAN FIT, UH, TWO CARS AND HE STILL HAS A SPACE TO LIKE A WALKWAY.
AND I GAVE YOU 3.5 BY 35 FEET.
AND THERE IS A LITTLE STAIRS THAT GOES IN THE MAIN HOUSE AND THAT'S THE BACK HOUSE.
AND IT HAS ITS OWN ENTRANCE IN ITS OWN WAY.
SO THERE'S PARKING SPACE HERE AND BACK.
AND IN THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE, LIKE RIGHT NEXT TO THE FRONT AREA, IT HAS MORE.
SO IT HAS FOR FOUR CARS, WHICH, UM, THAT'S THE MAXIMUM.
IT, IT, IT COULD ALLOW, UM, IT COULD FIT FOUR CARS THERE, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE FOUR CARS.
SO, AND I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT THAT WAY.
UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
UH, I'LL TURN OVER TO THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS.
UM, QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.
UM, THE, THE ADDRESS SHOWS 3 32.
I WAS LOOKING AT A PICTURE ON THE GOOGLE MAP, BUT THE A D U IN THE BACK HAS A 3 32 AS WELL.
ARE, DID THEY PUT ANOTHER C THEY DIDN'T PUT ANOTHER C P S UNIT THERE.
IS THIS ALREADY CONSIDERED AS ANOTHER SEPARATE A D U? NO, THAT'S WHAT SHE WAS SAYING, THAT IT DID HAVE ELECTRICITY ALREADY.
AND SO WHAT PROBABLY HAPPENED WAS IT WAS OWNER OCCUPIED BEFORE AND SO THEY WERE ABLE TO GET THE SECOND METER FOR THE BACK UNIT, BUT NOW THAT SHE'S PURCHASED THE PROPERTY AND DOESN'T LIVE THERE AND WANTS TO KEEP THE TWO UNITS, SHE'S HAVING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY.
AND ADDITIONALLY, WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT SHE, UM, ADDS THOSE DIMENSIONS TO THE EXISTINGS SITE PLAN.
ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE, JUST BRIEFLY, MS. ACOSTA IS, IS THE BACKYARD SEG, IS THE BACKYARD SEGMENTED? LIKE, IS IT SEPARATE FOR THE BACK HOUSE AND THE FRONT HOUSE? YES, SIR.
UM, JUST CURIOUS WHERE YOU CAN SEE.
I'M SORRY, THAT SAME ONE, UM, I ACTUALLY, WE ACTUALLY DIVIDED IT SO THAT WAY THEY HAVE LIKE A, PLEASE, PLEASE SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE SO EVERYBODY CAN HEAR.
SO WE, YOU SEE THE WOOD FENCE? IT'S ABOUT FOUR FEET.
COULD YOU GIVE HER A POINTER PLEASE? RIGHT THERE.
IT DIVIDES BETWEEN THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE AND THE BACK SO THAT THE BACK HOUSE HAS ITS OWN BACKYARD AND THE FRONT HOUSE HAS ITS OWN BACKYARD AS WELL.
SO ALL WE DID WAS ADD THE FENCE BECAUSE WE WANTED FOR TO HAVE LIKE A SEPARATION BETWEEN THE HOUSES.
QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER'S ON MY RIGHT? NONE.
BACK TO YOU, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE.
UM, SO I'M ALWAYS, UH, IT'S ALWAYS INTERESTING, RIGHT, HOW THESE CASES COME ABOUT.
UM, YOU KNOW, ONE WEEK OR ONE ZONING COMMISSION, UH, MEETING.
I FEEL LIKE SOMETIMES IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO CASES THAT COME AFTERWARDS AND THEN I STRUGGLE SOMETIMES WITH THE DECISIONS I'VE MADE IN THE PAST
AND, AND THAT'S A LOT OF, UM, THE ANALYSIS THAT, THAT I'VE GONE THROUGH IN THIS CASE.
UM, I THINK THAT THIS CASE, I I AM STILL STRUGGLING TO WEIGH ALL OF THE FACTORS HERE.
I WENT BACK, UM, TO THE CASE FROM TWO WEEKS AGO WHERE, UM, WE HAD A SIMILAR CASE,
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WHICH WAS A TWO UNIT PROPERTY THAT WAS, UM, REQUESTING A CD FOR TWO UNITS AND IT WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THIS CASE.AND SO I KIND OF, I'M GONNA WANNA WALK THROUGH THAT.
UM, I WANNA ADDRESS SOME SPECIFIC ISSUES I HAVE WITH THIS PROPERTY.
AND THEN I HONESTLY, BEFORE I MAKE A MOTION, I DO WANT TO HEAR FROM MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS BECAUSE I AM KIND OF ON THE FENCE ON THIS ONE.
SO, THE CASE LAST TIME, UM, WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT, I TALKED A LOT ABOUT PUBLIC POLICY, COMMODITIZATION OF HOUSING AND THE FACT THAT THAT DOESN'T SUPPORT SHIP.
UM, I ALSO TALKED A LOT ABOUT SITE SPECIFIC ISSUES THAT DON'T EXIST HERE.
AND, UM, A COUPLE OF THE ISSUES IN THAT CASE WHERE THE FACT THAT IT WAS A TEMPORARY ISSUE WITH THE FACT THAT THE OWNER WAS INTENDING TO RETURN FROM, UH, FROM LIVING IN ANOTHER STATE.
AND SO I FELT VERY STRONGLY THAT A PERMANENT SOLUTION TO ADDRESS A TEMPORARY ISSUE WAS VERY INAPPROPRIATE FOR THE ZONING COMMISSION TO RECOMMEND, UM, APPROVING.
UM, IT WAS ALSO IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT WHICH REQUIRED ADDITIONAL FACTORS AND ANALYSIS, UM, THAT ARE NOT PRESENT HERE.
AND WE ALSO HAD, UM, NOT ONLY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OPPOSITION AND, AND NEIGHBORS IN, IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA THAT WERE OPPOSED AS WELL AS TIER ONE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND, AND A LOT OF OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WERE OPPOSED.
NONE OF THOSE FACTORS EXIST HERE.
UM, SO I THINK WITHOUT THOSE SPECIFIC ISSUES, I'M LOOKING AT KIND OF MONTE OUTLINED LIKE CONSISTENCY, ADVERSE IMPACTS, UM, HEALTH SAFETY, WELFARE, SUITABILITY IS PRESENTLY ZONED IN PUBLIC POLICY.
AND, UM, HERE, I'M, I'M, I'M STRICKEN BY THE FACT THAT IT, THAT THAT THERE IS A, UM, A LACK OF OTHER PROPERTIES THAT HAVE THE, UM, CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO UNITS.
THIS APPEARS TO BE A REALLY, UM, UNIFORM, SINGLE FAMILY ZONED NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND I THINK THAT'S MAYBE THE FACTOR THAT I'M STRUGGLING WITH THE MOST AS FAR AS AN APPROVAL FOR THIS CASE.
UM, AND THE FACT THAT IT IS SUITABLE AS PRESENTLY ZONED AND THE COMMODITIZATION OF HOUSING PUBLIC POLICY ISSUE THAT I OUTLINED LAST TIME.
SO I FEEL, UM, AGAIN, I'M STRUGGLING WITH THAT VERSUS ALSO ALLOWING THIS TO CONTINUE ON AS TWO UNITS AND PROVIDING HOUSING.
IT'S LIKE A CONUNDRUM OF DO WE WANNA PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL UNIT FOR RENTAL OR DO WE WANT TO TRY TO KEEP SINGLE FAMILY UNITS OUT OF THE HANDS OF INVESTORS AND, AND KIND OF TRY TO HELP CONTROL, UH, PRICES HERE WITHIN THE BEXAR COUNTY AND SAN ANTONIO AREA.
SO I'M NOT PROBABLY COMING TO ANY GOOD CONCLUSION BY JUST RAMBLING UP HERE, SO I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO HEAR, UM, IF ANY OF MY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY OPINIONS ON THIS.
COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT OPINIONS I WOULD LIKE TO RAMBLE.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE.
ALRIGHT, SO I, I UNDERSTAND COMMISSIONER GR HOUSE'S CONCERNS, UM, BUT TO THE EXTENT, YOU KNOW, WITH RESPECT TO THE ISSUE OF, YOU KNOW, CONSISTENCY AT LEAST, I THINK THERE DOES APPEAR TO BE EVIDENCE LOOKING AT GOOGLE MAPS THAT THERE ARE IN FACT SIMILAR UNITS ON THIS BLOCK.
SO IF WE GO FROM OSA AND BREEDEN AND WE LOOK AT THAT CORNER HOUSE, THERE APPEARS TO BE A SEPARATELY ADDRESSED OUTBUILDING OF SOME SORT ACCESSORY BUILDING.
IT'S ACTUALLY BUILT IN AN ALLEY, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE.
UM,
SO, YOU KNOW, TO SOME DEGREE, TO THE EXTENT THAT THAT'S A CONCERN, I THINK THERE IS CONSISTENT USAGE HERE.
AND SO THAT WOULD SUPPORT, UM, GRANTING THIS REQUEST.
I THINK THAT'S THE END OF MY RAMBLE, RAMBLE OVER.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER FUENTES? UM, ORTIZ? OKAY.
NO, NO PRO ACTUALLY, JUST A QUESTION TO STAFF AGAIN.
SO LIKE, YOU KNOW HOW THE U D C AMENDMENT CHANGED THE TWO C P SS UNITS ON THE PROPERTIES, RIGHT? SO WOULD THIS PROPERTY TO SAY HYPOTHETICALLY DOES, DOESN'T GET APPROVED OR HOW WOULD, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN THEN? WOULD THEY GET GRANDFATHERED IN NOW THAT THE U D C AMENDMENT, THEY HAVE TWO SEPARATE A D UNITS, TWO HOUSES? NO, NO, THEY JUST REMAIN OUT OF COMPLIANCE.
UH, WAS THERE SOMEONE ELSE ON COMMISSIONER WATSON? UM, YOU MAY HAVE MENTIONED THIS AND I MAY HAVE, MAY HAVE MISSED IT, BUT YOU, ARE YOU CURRENTLY LEASING THE PROPERTIES OR ARE YOU CURRENTLY USING THEM AS, OR HAVE ANY, UM, PERMITS FOR USES ST.
LIKE IS THERE, DO YOU HAVE REGULAR TENANTS THAT HAVE LIKE A MONTH? MM-HMM.
IT'S ALL VERY LOUD AND THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO KEEP THEM THERE BECAUSE THEY, THEY WERE THERE SINCE ALL THIS PROBLEM HAPPENED.
I DIDN'T KNOW WHEN WE BOUGHT IT, WE DIDN'T KNOW WHEN WE BOUGHT IT.
INITIALLY, THE HOUSE WAS GONNA BE FOR HIS MOM AND HIS DAD AND HIS DAD HAD A
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STROKE AND HIS MOM WAS VERY SICK TOO.SO, UM, THEY COULDN'T MOVE IN AND WE REFINANCED IT, GOT THE MONEY, UH, KIND OF PAINT REPAINTED THE HOUSE AND, AND LEASED IT.
NOW, I DIDN'T KNOW THE HOUSE COULDN'T BE LEASED TO TWO FAMILIES AND WE CAME TO FIND OUT WHEN, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A, LIKE A, WHAT IS IT? LIKE, UM, AN OFFICER CAME AND LIKE, SHE WROTE A LETTER SAYING, HEY, YOU CAN DO THIS.
SO THAT'S WHEN EVERYTHING STARTED.
UM, SO THIS IS ALL NEW FOR US.
WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT THIS HOUSE WAS GONNA BE SUCH A PROBLEM.
UM, BUT YES, THE FAMILIES HAVE BEEN THERE FOR TWO YEARS NOW, SO THE SAME FAMILIES.
I WILL HAVE MORE IN DISCUSSION, BUT THAT WAS MY PRIMARY QUESTION FOR NOW.
UM, DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER'S ON MY RIGHT.
COMMISSIONER FUENTES? UM, JUST ADDING TO WHAT COMMISSIONER BUSANTE SAID, UM, I'VE, I'M ACTUALLY REALLY FAMILIAR WITH THIS, THESE COUPLE OF BLOCKS AND WHERE THERE AREN'T INDIVIDUALLY ADDRESSED HOMES, I KNOW THAT THERE ARE IN FACT MULTIPLE, UH, LOTS WHERE THERE ARE MULTIPLE FAMILIES LIVING MM-HMM.
UM, I CAN SEE THAT THIS ISN'T TOO FAR OF A STRETCH FOR, UH, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, AND I THINK BRINGING IT INTO COMPLIANCE WOULD BE GREAT.
UH, IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT THE OWNER OF THE, THE PROPERTY DIDN'T RETAIN THAT, THE OWNERSHIP.
UM, SO KEEP EVERYTHING IN LINE, BUT UM, YOU KNOW, THESE PROPERTIES WILL CHANGE HANDS AND BECAUSE OF THAT, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD DO WHAT'S RIGHT IN THIS, UH, CASE AND BRING IT INTO COMPLIANCE, UM, AND MAKE SURE THAT THE CURRENT TENANTS ARE ABLE TO CONTINUE THEIR, THEIR LEASE THERE.
UM, I DO ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
I KNOW WE'RE IN DISCUSSION, BUT DOES THIS QUALIFY UNDER THE B TO OUR LITTLE BONUS? UM, NO, IT DOES NOT, BUT UM, IT WAS JUST NOTED THAT THERE ARE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH, MAYBE JUST A BLOCK UP THAT ARE R FOUR AND THEY DO, UM, QUALIFY FOR THAT B TO R FOUR.
IT'S JUST A BLOCK AWAY, BUT THIS ONE ITSELF DOES NOT.
UM, YEAH, THIS ONE IS, THIS ONE IS KIND OF DIFFICULT AND PERHAPS MY BEST COURSE OF ACTION IS TO SUPPORT THE COMMISSIONER IN WHOSE DISTRICT IT RESIDES IN PUNT.
BUT, UH, BACK TO YOU, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE.
NO, AND, AND I DO APPRECIATE THE, THE DISCUSSION, UM, AND THE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP.
UM, I, I THINK INITIALLY I, MY, MY THOUGHTS WERE TO, UH, MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
SO I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 12 AND, UM, SPECIFICALLY THE REASONS WHY OUR, UM, THE FACT THAT THERE ARE OTHER UNITS BEING USED, UM, SIMILARLY, AND THE FACT THAT I THINK JUST BASED ON JUST THE, THE BASE ISSUES THAT WE LOOK AT WHEN THIS IS NOT A HISTORIC DISTRICT, I THINK THAT, UM, THE BALANCE OF THESE WAYS IN, IN SUPPORTING THE MOTION, I'D SECOND THAT.
ALRIGHT, MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES.
ANY FINAL DISCUSSION? LOOKING RIGHT.
SO WE'LL JUST NO, I, I KNOW
I KNOW COMMISSIONER WATSON, UM, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
I WAS GOING TO TRY TO SECOND IT BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES BEAT ME OUT.
AND, UH, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF SIMILAR, UM, CASES TO THIS WHERE THERE IS, UM, A DESIRE TO DEVELOP TWO TO THREE UNITS, UM, WHERE THERE IS SOME EVIDENCE OF EXISTING DEVELOPMENT OR AROUND A CORNER LOT IN SOME OF THE URBAN OTHER URBAN CORE DISTRICTS.
AND BECAUSE THERE IS SOME ADDITIONAL, UH, USE THAT REFLECTS THIS, AND BECAUSE THERE'S ALREADY THE EXISTING TWO METERS AND THERE ISN'T CURRENTLY AN S T R PERMIT THAT'S BEEN ISSUED FOR THIS PROPERTY, I FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT THIS APPROVING THIS DOESN'T NECESSARILY OPEN UP, UM, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THERE TO BE A BACK DOOR TO, UM, GETTING AROUND SOME OF THE SHIP THINGS AND DOES ACTUALLY CONTRIBUTE AN ADDITIONAL HOUSING UNIT THAT IS GOING TO BE, UM, USED FOR THE REASONS THAT WE LIKE TO SEE ADUS OR, UM, DUPLEXES IN URBAN CORE DISTRICTS.
IT CREATES ADDITIONAL HOUSING UNITS, IT CREATES EQUITY, IT CREATES GENERATIONAL WEALTH, IT HELPS KEEP PROPERTY TAXES AT A GROWING, AT A REASONABLE RATE.
UM, IF THERE HAD BEEN AN S T R PERMIT ISSUED ALREADY, OR IF THE REASON FOR THE REQUEST WAS BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO USE THIS AS THIS, ESPECIALLY IF THERE WAS ONLY ONE METER, I WOULD'VE FELT DIFFERENTLY.
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BUT WITH THE EXISTING TWO METERS, I THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO BRING THIS INTO COMPLIANCE, UM, AND WILL CONTRIBUTE TO THE MARKET BY CREATING AN ADDITIONAL UNIT RATHER THAN CREATING AN INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITY.SO IN THIS SPECIFIC CASE, I THINK WE ARE MAKING A DECISION THAT, UM, REFLECTS THE GOALS OF POLICY, GOALS OF SHIP, UM, AND DOES FIT FIT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO THAT'S WHY I'LL BE, WHY I'LL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
OUR FINAL CASE, I BELIEVE IS NUMBER 13.
MY NAME IS ADOLFO GONZALEZ, SONY PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER 13 IS LOCATED AT THE 200 BLOCK OF COSGROVE GOING FROM R SIX TO MF 33 WITH ALL OVERLAYS STAYING THE SAME.
THERE WERE 34 NOTICES SENT OUT.
ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED, AND NO RESPONSE FROM HIGHLAND PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
THE EXISTING R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND ESTABLISHED SINGLE FAMILY USE FOR THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED MF 33 MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICT IS NOT INAPPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY EQUALS 21,000 SQUARE FEET AND IN THE CURRENT R SIX BAY ZONING DISTRICT, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY COULD POTENTIALLY BE RE PLATTED INTO THREE SEPARATE LOTS, POTENTIALLY ALLOWING A MAIN DWELLING UNIT ALONG WITH AN ACCESSORY DETACHED DWELLING UNIT ON EACH LOT, GIVING AN OVERALL ACCOUNT OF SIX DWELLING UNITS.
THE PROPOSED MF 33 BAY ZONING DISTRICT WOULD PERMIT UP TO 16 DWELLING UNITS AND IS FAR TOO DENSE FOR THE AREA.
THE ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF MF 18 LIMITED DENSITY MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICT WOULD PERMIT UP TO NINE DWELLING UNITS AND WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ESTABLISHED FUTURE LAND USE CLASSIFICATION STAFF FINDS EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON EVERY LANDS IN RELATION TO THIS ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
THE PROPOSED USE IS NOT, IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THERE IS A MIX OF ZONING IN THIS AREA WITH RMM FOUR I ONE AND C TWO AND A, UH, TO THE WEST.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL WITH AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF MF 18 LIMITED DENSITY MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICT.
AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IF WE COULD HAVE THAT APPLICANT PLEASE.
MY NAME IS ADRIAN RAMIREZ AND UH, I CONCUR WITH, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION OF GOING FROM MF 33 TO MF 19, UH, MF 18.
SO, UH, WE AGREE WITH THAT AND WE HAVE SOME, WE CAME UP WITH SOME RENDERINGS, UM, UH, OFF THE PROPERTY IF YOU WANT TO SEE WHAT WE HAVE FOR THE NINE UNITS PROPOSED.
UH, THEY SHOULD BE, I BELIEVE ON THE FOLDER WE HAVE THEM, BUT WE HAVE THEM, BUT THEY'RE NOT OPENING, SIR, ONE SECOND, IF THIS CAN BE YOU.
YEAH, SO THIS IS A RENDERING WE JUST, OUR ARCHITECT JUST CAME UP WITH LATELY.
IT WAS A MODIFICATION FROM THE ORIGINAL, UM, 12 UNITS TO NOW NINE UNITS.
WE HAVE 20, UH, TWO PARKING SPACES HERE, SO ENOUGH PARKING, WE HAVE A SETBACK OF 40 FEET TO HAVE A GOOD TRAFFIC INFLOW HERE INTO THE PROPERTY.
UM, AND FROM THE RENDERING WE'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE HIGHLAND PARK, UH, ASSOCIATION.
AND FROM THAT WE WORKING WITH THEM, WE LEARNED, UM, WE WANNA MAKE THIS BLEND MORE INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO WE'RE, UH, MAKING SOME ARCHITECTURAL ADJUSTMENTS SO THAT IT'S MORE IN TUNE WITH THE, UH, PROPERTIES IN THE AREA WITH THE LOOKS AND THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE IN THE AREA.
UH, SO THAT CAME FROM FEEDBACK FROM MEETING WITH THE, UH, HIGHLAND PARK ASSOCIATION FOR A COUPLE OF TIMES AND THEY'RE ALSO HERE TO, UM, TO GIVE THEIR FEEDBACK.
SO, UM, ANY QUESTIONS? THERE IS
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A FLOOR PLAN TOO, IF WE WANT TO SHOW THAT, UM, A LAYOUT, UH, MAYBE THE ONE ON THE UPPER RIGHT CORNER IS THE BEST THING TO SHOW.SO HERE YOU CAN SEE THE 21, THE 21, UH, PARKING SPACES.
WE HAVE A GREEN AREA ON THE FRONT.
UH, SO WE HAVE A GREEN AREA HERE ON THE FRONT.
THIS WOULD BE THE ENTRANCE FROM VERS STREET.
UH, WE GOT 21 PARKING SPACES, AN AREA FOR THE TRASH BIN HERE.
AND WE HAVE, UH, TWO STORIES, FIVE APARTMENTS IN THE BOTTOM AND FOUR ON THE TOP.
UH, THEY'RE ALL TWO BEDROOM, ONE BATH, ABOUT 800 SQUARE FEET EACH.
AND THIS IS, THIS IS PRETTY MUCH THE, THE PLAN.
DO WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? YES, WE HAVE A MR. TOM WETZLER HERE TO SPEAK.
MY NAME IS TOM WETZLER, I LIVE AT 1311 SLY AVENUE AND I'M A MEMBER OF THE HIGHLAND PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, ASSOCIATION BOARD.
UH, THANK YOU FOR, UH, HAVING US HERE.
THIS HAS BEEN A PROPERTY THAT, UH, HAS BEEN A KIND OF BONE, UH, FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS BECAUSE OF ITS, UH, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF WATER DRAINAGE AND BECAUSE OF ITS, UH, ODD SHAPE, UH, PARTICULARLY NOW WITH A LARGE, UH, RETENTION POND FOR WATER GOING IN, IT'S MADE IT EVEN MORE OF A CHALLENGE.
UH, TRADITIONALLY WE'RE OPPOSED TO MULTI-FAMILY ZONING.
WE WANT TO MAINTAIN THE RES SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE NATURE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THERE ARE CERTAINLY PARTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT, UH, WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR HISTORIC DISTRICT, UH, BE THAT AS IT MAY, UH, THE, THE IDEA OF, OF DEVELOPING THIS SMALL ODD SHAPED AREA FOR A, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR MULTIFAMILY 18 IS ACCEPTABLE TO US BECAUSE WE CAN'T FIGURE OUT OF ANYTHING ELSE TO DO WITH IT
UH, UH, SO IT'S WITH RESERVATION THAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE'RE MORE INTERESTED IN HAVING SINGLE RESIDENT, UH, UH, ZONING THAN WE ARE MF WE'LL GO, WE WILL, WE WILL SAY YES TO THE MF I HAVE TO SAY THE DEVELOPER HAS BEEN, UH, PRETTY FORTHCOMING AND, UH, COOPERATIVE WITH US AND WE APPRECIATE THAT.
ANY QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.
UH, WE MAY HAVE QUESTIONS IN A MINUTE.
ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? NO, NO MORE COMMENT.
I DIDN'T LOOK TO SEE WHICH DISTRICT THIS IS IN DISTRICT THREE.
UM, NOW I, I DID HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU MR. WEXLER.
UH, JUST TO CLARIFY, UM, SO, UH, THE ASSOCIATION IS, UM, IN AGREEANCE WITH IT BEING M F 18 AND THE R OKAY.
WITH, UH, THESE UNITS BEING RENTAL UNITS, CORRECT? YES.
I HAVE NO FURTHER ACTUALLY YES, I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS TIME.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.
BACK TO YOU, COMMISSIONER FUENTES.
UM, SO I WILL BE MAKING A MOTION FOR APPROVAL, UM, IN THAT THIS SLOT HAS, UH, BEEN PRETTY VACANT FOR, FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND, UH, THIS IS A, A PRETTY GREAT, UM, PROJECT SO FAR.
UM, I KNOW THE AREA COULD USE MORE HOUSING STOCK AND UM, DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND RENTALS ARE A VIABLE OPTION FOR THIS AREA.
UM, SO WITH THAT I'LL BE MOTIONING FOR APPROVAL.
IS THERE A SECOND MR. CHAIR AS AMENDED TO THE MF 18 AS AMENDED.
ALRIGHT, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND.
COMMISSIONER WATSON WITH THE SECOND.
ALRIGHT, MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES AS AMENDED WITH SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON.
ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER? ON MY LEFT.
SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER ON MY RIGHT.
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COMMISSIONER NICKS? YES.[Approval of Minutes]
WE HAVE THREE SETS OF MINUTES UP FOR APPROVAL TODAY.SO I HAVE SOME COMMENTS ON THE APRIL 18TH MEETING.
UM, BUT I HAVEN'T WRITTEN THEM DOWN BECAUSE I HAVE TO CHECK SOME THINGS AND IT BASICALLY COMES DOWN TO WHERE RECESS, WHERE WE WENT FOR A RECESS, CAME BACK FOR A RECESS WHEN PEOPLE LEFT.
SO IF I CAN LOOK AT THAT AND SEND IT TO Y'ALL.
CAN WE APPROVE IT AS AMENDED OR, YES.
WHY DO WE HAVE THREE SETS? HUH? ALRIGHT, THE REASON, OH, THE QUESTION WAS BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, WHY DO, WHY WE HAVE THREE SETS AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE DID NOT OFFICIALLY HAVE A QUORUM ON SOME OF THE, FOR SOME OF THEM AT THE END OF THE DAY.
AT THE END OF THE END OF DAY IT WAS ONLY LIKE FIVE FIVE OF YOU.
AND THEN THERE WAS, AND THERE WAS ONE WHERE WE DID HAVE SIX BUT SOMEONE ABSTAINED,
AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I ABSTAIN FROM IT AGAIN.
MOTION FOR APPROVAL WITH THE AMENDMENTS THAT CHAIR S SIPES MENTIONED AND I'LL ABSTAIN FROM ALL OF THEM.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
ALRIGHT, I HEARD KIND OF UH, UH, HE'S POINTING TO COMMISSIONER FUENTES.
ALRIGHT, MOTION FOR APPROVAL AS AMENDED.
UH, UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE.
SO DO WE HAVE A DIRECTOR'S REPORT? NO SIR.
WELL WE WILL UM, END THE MEETING AT LOOKING DOWN HERE AT 3:51 PM TODAY IS LAST DAY FOR EARLY VOTING.
SO, SO EITHER VOTE NOW OR VOTE ON SATURDAY.
ALRIGHT, WE ARE ADJOURNED AND I WILL TURN OFF MY MIC.