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IT IS 2:00 PM WELCOME TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, MEETING FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO FOR MAY 24TH, 2023.
CAN WE PLEASE HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT SPANISH LANGUAGE INTERPRETATION SERVICES, PLEASE? GOOD AFTERNOON.
WE WILL HAVE TWO, UH, MEETING AGENDAS TODAY.
THE FIRST BEING THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH ALL ITEMS ARE ELIGIBLE FOR CONSENT WITH THE EXCEPTIONS OF ITEMS 15, 16, AND 17.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE CONSENT ITEMS? HEARING NONE.
I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS WRITTEN.
MOTION BY C COMMISSIONER, UH, WHAT'S MY NAME? SIEGEL SIEGEL.
[Comprehensive Master Plan Amendments ]
AHEAD TO ITEM 16, PLEASE.WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO READ ITEM 16 AND 17 TOGETHER SINCE THEY'RE BOTH CONTINUANCES? YES, PLEASE.
ITEM NUMBER 16 IS A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A RE RESOLUTION AMENDING THE HERITAGE SOUTH SECTOR PLAN FROM SUBURBAN TIER TO GENERAL URBAN TIER, LOCATED AT 1 5 8 9 5 SOUTH STATE HIGHWAY 16.
THERE WERE 82 NOTICES MAILED ONE IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
AND ITEM NUMBER 17 IS A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION AMENDING THE NORTH SECTOR PLAN FROM SUBURBAN TIER TO GENERAL URBAN TIER, GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 12,000 BLOCK OF PETITE STREET.
THERE WERE 28 NOTICES MAILED, ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, THREE OPPOSED AND NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
UH, THESE ITEMS ARE BOTH SEEKING A CONTINUANCE TO JUNE 14TH.
UH, ITEM 16, DO YOU WANNA MAKE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? JUST THE CONTINUANCE.
AND I KNOW ON ITEM 17, THERE ARE TWO PEOPLE TO SPEAK.
DO YOU WANNA SPEAK TODAY OR WOULD YOU RATHER WAIT TILL JUNE 14TH WHEN WE
IF YOU CAN JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES EACH, ACTUALLY HAVE MINE.
UH, MY WIFE AND I HAVE LIVED ON THE 12,000 BLOCK OF PEBBLE STREET FOR GOING ON 40 YEARS.
UH, IT'S AN UNDEVELOPED SUBDIVISION.
UM, THIS PROPOSAL FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT, 96 UNITS, IS THAT A DONE DEAL? I MEAN, IS IT A FOREGONE CONCLUSION? UH, THERE'S A PROCESS.
I MEAN, ONE, ONE, OUR PURVIEW IS TO DETERMINE WHETHER, UH, TO APPROVE THE APPLICANT'S PLAN FOR THE PLAN AMENDMENT.
UH, AFTER THAT, UH, I THINK IT HAS A ZONING CASE ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
AND THEN CITY COUNCIL, I BELIEVE.
SO WE'RE ONE PART OF THE PROCESS.
WELL, I'D RUN IT, REGISTERING MY OPPOSITION TO IT.
UM, THERE ARE ONLY TWO STREETS THAT GO IN AND OUT OF THAT AREA
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RIGHT THERE.AND THAT EIGHT ACRES IS GONNA HAVE 96 UNITS, WHICH I'M GUESSING HERE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW, BUT I'M GONNA GUESS AROUND 150 VEHICLES.
AND BOTH STREETS, UH, FROM THAT ONE EXIT EMPTY OUT ON HENER ROAD WITHIN LESS THAN A QUARTER OF A MILE FROM VANCE JACKSON.
UH, THERE ARE TWO SCHOOLS IN THAT VICINITY IN THE MORNINGS.
TRAFFIC IS BACKED UP FROM VANCE JACKSON GOING TOWARDS LOCKHILL.
SELMA BACKED BEHIND THE TRACKS.
AND THE SAME GOES FOR IN THE AFTERNOON.
UH, IT'S A, A TRAFFIC JAM, UH, TO ADD 150 CARS IN THE MORNING AND AFTERNOON WOULD BE UNTENABLE.
SO FOR THAT, ONE OF THE, THAT MAIN REASON IS WHY WE OPPOSE THIS.
UM, THERE'S STILL WILDLIFE OUT THERE.
UH, LOTS OF DEER, OWLS, FOX RACCOONS, UH, IT WOULD BE A, A DISRUPTION TO THEIR HABITAT.
UM, WOODLAND MANOR IS A DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS STARTED IN 1955.
THESE ARE THE ORIGINAL DEEDED RESTRICTIONS.
RESIDENTIAL ONLY ARE, IS THIS A BINDING, COVENANT BINDING, UH, DOCUMENT? THE DEEDED RESTRICTIONS, UH, THAT'S NOT, THAT IS NOT THE PURVIEW OF THIS BOARD TO DETERMINE VALIDITY.
WELL, THEY WERE UPDATED, UH, AND IN 2007, I BELIEVE, TO RETAIN THESE SAME DEEDED RESTRICTIONS, R ONE.
AND SO FAR, UH, THE ONLY REZONING HAS BEEN FRONTING HEBNER, UH, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A DOCTOR'S OFFICE, UH, DIAGONAL TO WHERE WE'RE AT.
UM, THERE ARE VAGRANTS, THERE'S CRIME, THERE IS, UH, TRASH, OH, LET ME ADD THIS.
THE APARTMENTS BEHIND THIS DEVELOPMENT HAVE AN EXIT ONLY, UH, GOING DOWN MOONLIGHT WAY, WHICH IS, UH, 90 DEGREES TO, UH, TO PEBBLE, WHICH THAT DEVELOPMENT'S GONNA BE FACING THAT STREET.
DID, DID MS. O DID YOU WANT TO, DO YOU WANNA YIELD YOUR TIME TO HIM? OKAY.
UH, THAT'S GONNA ADD TO THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION BECAUSE THERE'S, IT'S AN EXIT.
UH, THERE'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF CARS LEAVING THAT APARTMENT IN THE MORNING.
UH, THERE'S A DETENTION AND WATER QUALITY TANK THAT'S GONNA BE BUILT DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM US.
AND BASED ON OUR EXPERIENCE IN THAT AREA, WHICH THE DOCTOR'S OFFICE HAS ONE, I THINK, UH, THE BUSINESS ON, UH, FACING HENER GOT ONE.
UM, THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T DRAIN COMPLETELY.
SO CONSEQUENTLY, UH, THEY'RE MOSQUITO PONDS IN THE SUMMERTIME.
ARE THESE UNITS GONNA BE RENTALS OR ARE THEY GONNA BE, IS THIS UNDER YOUR PURVIEW RIGHT HERE? NO.
UM, WELL, THAT PRETTY MUCH CONCLUDES
I JUST WANNA REGISTER OPPOSITION TO THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT, UH, EIGHT ACRES.
UH, I'M SURE THEY CAN FIND SOMEWHERE ELSE INSTEAD OF WHERE WE'RE, WHERE THEY'RE PLANNING ON BUILDING.
SO I, I WANNA TAKE EACH ITEM INDIVIDUALLY.
SO ITEM 16, THE APPLICANT HAS MADE A REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE TO JUNE 14TH.
DO I HAVE A MOTION? I APPROVE THE MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS TO JUNE 14TH.
MOTION TO GRANT THE CONTINUANCE TO JUNE 14TH BY COMMISSIONER ZUKI.
A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN'S COURAGE.
MOTION PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE.
FOR ITEM 17, THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED CONTINUANCE TO JUNE 14TH.
ANY DISCUSSION OR MOTION? MOVE TO GRANT THE CONTINUANCE TO JUNE 14TH.
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MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, APPLICANT'S REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE TO JUNE 14TH BY COMMISSIONER MILAM.MOTION PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE.
SO IT WILL BE HEARD NEXT SESSION.
CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? WHAT EXACTLY IS UNDER THE PUR CONVEYANCE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION? UH, THE THING I CAN LET CITY STAFF ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
WE CAN HAVE SOMEONE TALK TO YOU ABOUT THIS CASE AND HELP ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS.
I THINK THE APPLICANT WOULD ALSO BE AVAILABLE TO HELP ANSWER SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS AS WELL.
AND HOW WOULD I OH, RIGHT THERE.
I JUST WONDER, AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE, UM, WE CAN STEP OUT AND HAVE SOME OF THE STAFF ANSWER SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS, WHATEVER YOU HAVE.
ELIZABETH STEWART PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER 15 IS A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE MIDTOWN AREA REGIONAL CENTER PLAN FROM URBAN LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, LOCATED AT EIGHT 15 EAST GRAYSON STREET, THERE WERE 50 NOTICES MAILED ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, SIX IN OPPOSITION WITHIN 200 FEET.
NO RESPONSE FROM THE GOVERNMENT HILL ALLIANCE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ONE RECEIVED IN SUPPORT OUTSIDE TUNE FEET AND ONE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION.
OUTSIDE TUNE FEET, THE APPLICANT SEEKS A PLAN AMENDMENT TO HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO IDZ THREE HIGH INTENSITY INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE DISTRICT WITH USES PERMITTED FOR 50 DWELLING UNITS.
THE PROPOSED HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL LAND USE IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THE AREA SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL LAND USE CONSISTS OF URBAN LOAD DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL AND MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
THE EXISTING URBAN LOAD DENSITY RESIDENTIAL LAND USE ALLOWS UP TO 18 UNITS PER ACRES AND IS FITTING AS THERE IS A MIX OF SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES AND LIMITED DENSITY MULTIFAMILY COMPLEXES IN THE AREA.
HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL WOULD INTRODUCE A HIGHER INTENSITY LAND USE AT A DENSITY TWICE AS LARGE AS THE CURRENT, THEN PRESCRIBED BY THE CURRENT LAND USE, WHICH IS DO, WHICH DOES NOT ALIGN WITH THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER FOR A PLAN THAT WAS MORE RECENTLY ADOPTED IN JUNE, 2019.
THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
EMILY WEISLER WITH KILLING GRIFFIN AND FAIRMAN 1 0 1 0 1 REUNION PLACE, SUITE TWO 50 HERE ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER AND APPLICANT.
UM, AS STAFF MENTIONED, WE ARE HERE BEFORE YOU WITH A PLAN AMENDMENT CONSIDERATION AND RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT OF IT.
UH, THIS PROPERTY IS AT EIGHT 15 EAST GRAYSON.
IT IS 1.24 ACRES, A PRETTY LARGE PIECE OF PROPERTY, UM, AND IT IS SURROUNDED BY MULTIFAMILY.
UM, WE'LL ZOOM OUT IN A COUPLE MORE SLIDES HERE, BUT MULTIFAMILY, UM, IN APARTMENTS AND TOWN HOMES IS THE PREDOMINANT LAND USE, UM, ALONG THIS ENTIRE BLOCK OF GRAYSON BETWEEN AUSTIN STREET AND UH, NORTH PINE.
THERE ARE ALSO MEDICAL CLINICS, OFFICES, AND SUPPORTIVE COMMUNITY SERVICES IN THE AREA.
SO THIS IS A ZOOMED OUT, UH, AERIAL IMAGE.
I'M GONNA TRY TO USE THIS POINTER HERE.
UM, SO THIS IS THE ENTIRE BLOCK, AUSTIN STREET TO NORTH PINE.
AND YOU CAN SEE IN THIS AERIAL ALL OF THE ESTABLISHED, UM, APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND TOWN HOMES, UM, KIND OF EVERYWHERE UP AND DOWN THIS ENTIRE STRIP.
UM, AND WE ARE JUST OFF OF BROADWAY.
UM, AND THERE HAS BEEN A MASSIVE REDEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH ALONG THIS CORRIDOR AND IN THE MIDTOWN AREA.
SO OUR ZONING REQUEST, UM, THE CURRENT ZONING IS MF 18.
WE ARE REQUESTING, UM, A AMENDED ZONING REQUEST OF I D Z THREE FOR 50 UNITS.
OUR ORIGINAL ZONING REQUEST WAS FOR 92 UNITS.
UH, WE DID PROCEED WITH ZONING COMMISSION'S CONSIDERATION LAST WEEK, AND THEY DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE AMENDED REQUEST.
THAT IS A UNIT REDUCTION OF 42 UNITS.
UM, A SIGNIFICANT DENSITY REDUCTION OVERALL.
SO THIS IS JUST FOR BACKGROUND.
THE ORIGINAL I D C E THREE REQUEST.
UM, THIS WAS A TRADITIONAL APARTMENT DEVELOPMENT, FOUR STORIES, 60 FEET, 92 UNITS.
THIS IS THE AMENDED REQUEST, WHICH IS FOR A MAXIMUM OF 50 UNITS.
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ARE GOING TO BE FOR SALE TOWN HOMES.SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING AND REALLY DO APPRECIATE THIS COMMISSION'S PATIENTS WITH US AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
UM, AND ASK FOR SEVERAL CONTINUANCES BEFORE ON THIS CASE.
BUT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY.
UM, THE DRIVER OF THEIR CONCERN HAS BEEN BUILDING HEIGHT.
UM, AND SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE THE BUILDING HEIGHT, UH, REALLY DRAMATICALLY CHANGE THE BUILDING, UM, STRUCTURES, UH, THE PROJECT FEATURES AND, UH, REDUCE THAT DENSITY AND THE HEIGHT OF DEVELOPMENT.
SO THESE ARE THREE STORY FIRST SALE TOWN HOMES, UM, 50 UNITS MAXIMUM.
THIS IS THE LARGER KIND OF ZOOMED OUT AREA, UM, OF ALL OF THE PLAN DESIGNATIONS IN THIS AREA.
SO WE ARE IN THE MIDTOWN PLAN.
UM, WE ARE ALSO NEAR THE EAST SIDE COMMUNITY PLAN, WHICH HAS NOT BEEN ADOPTED YET.
UM, BUT I THINK IF YOU CAN LOOK AT THIS BLOCK BETWEEN AUSTIN AND PINE, ALONG GRAYSON, THE URBAN LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL KIND OF STICKS OUT.
UM, AND I WILL, WE ARE ADJOINING THIS DARK PURPLE IS REGIONAL MIXED USE.
UH, REGIONAL MIXED USE ALLOWS EVERYTHING FROM MF 33 ALL THE WAY TO C THREE DOWNTOWN USES.
IT IS A REALLY, REALLY INTENSE HIGH DENSITY, HIGH INTENSITY USE.
UM, AND WE ARE ADJOINING THAT FROM A LAND USE PERSPECTIVE.
I THINK THE TRANSITION BETWEEN REGIONAL MIXED USE AND URBAN LOAD DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IS REALLY, REALLY DRASTIC AND NOT ALIGNED WITH THE CHARACTER OF THIS AREA, AND PARTICULARLY THIS ENTIRE BLOCK AND THE PARCEL.
SO THESE ARE SOME, UH, THIS IS FROM THE REGIONAL CENTER PLAN.
UM, PRESERVING THE AREA'S CHARACTER, CONNECTING NEIGHBORHOODS, TRANSIT, BROADENING HOUSING CHOICES.
SO WITH, UM, ANY PLAN AMENDMENT.
UM, AND PARTICULARLY WHEN IT COMES TO HOUSING, I THINK WE'VE ALL HAD THIS DISCUSSION AND KNOW THAT WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT HOUSING THAT WE NEED TO PROVIDE.
UM, PARTICULARLY IN THE MIDTOWN AREA AND THE BROADWAY CORRIDOR.
THERE'S BEEN EXCEPTIONAL GROWTH, UM, AND JOB OPPORTUNITIES.
AND WE HAVE TO HOUSE THOSE PEOPLE THERE.
AND OFTENTIMES PROVIDING MORE HOUSING MEANS MORE RESPONSIBLE DENSITY.
UM, AND THAT IS WHAT OUR REQUEST HERE IS TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL HOUSING IN AN ENTIRE BLOCK THAT IS FILLED WITH MULTIFAMILY HOUSING.
THE CHARACTER OF THAT ENTIRE BLOCK BETWEEN AUSTIN AND PINE ALONG GRAYSON SUPPORTS THIS USE.
IT IS A CONSISTENT AND IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH OUR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
SO AGAIN, UH, THIS IS AN URBAN LOAD DENSITY RESIDENTIAL CURRENTLY, AND WE ARE REQUESTING A HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
UM, HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ALLOWS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO RMM FOUR, WHICH IS 11 UNITS PER ACRE, AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE ABOVE IT.
UM, IT IS A HUGE SWATH OF PERMITTED DENSITY, UM, AND IT'S ACTUALLY MUCH MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE VARIED DENSITIES, PARTICULARLY ALONG THIS ENTIRE BLOCK.
AND IN THIS AREA, THIS ENTIRE AREA, THIS KIND OF CORRIDOR END OF THE MIDTOWN REGIONAL CENTER PLAN HAS A WIDE VARIETY OF DENSITY THERE.
UM, AND WE FEEL THAT THE HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IS APPROPRIATE, IT IS CONSISTENT, UM, AND IT MATCHES WITH, WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA.
UM, AND THIS IS WHAT I MEAN ABOUT THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA.
SO THIS IS A ZOOMED IN AERIAL OF THE ENTIRE BLOCK BETWEEN AUSTIN AND PINE.
UM, AND YOU CAN SEE EAST ZU APARTMENTS, NATIVE APARTMENTS, GRAYSON BY THE PEARL, GRAYSON RIDGE APARTMENTS, TANA, UM, AND SOME TOWN HOMES ON THE END.
MERIDIAN CARE CENTER WAS A NURSING REHAB FACILITY, UM, THAT IS NO LONGER, UM, OPERATING THERE.
SO THIS MIX OF DENSITY PROVIDED HOUSING, THIS IS A REALLY APPROPRIATE WAY.
WE ARE NOT INFILTRATING IN THE MIDDLE OF SINGLE FAMILY OR IN THE MIDDLE OF COMMERCIAL.
THIS IS REALLY AN ENTIRE BLOCK THAT IS DEDICATED TO A VARIETY OF DENSITY AND MULTIFAMILY AND SERVING THOSE HOUSING NEEDS.
UM, SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT FOR THIS PLAN AMENDMENT.
I'LL START ON MY LEFT WITH COMMISSIONER LOPEZ.
UM, LET ME ASK, UH, OF THE STAFF, IF THE ZONING WERE TO REMAIN AS IT IS AND ISN'T CHANGED, WHAT ARE THE LIMITATIONS FOR THAT ZONING? THE HIGHEST DENSITY THEY COULD DO IS AN MF 18 AND THEY NEED AN MF 40.
AND, UH, I, I HEARD THE PRESENTATION TALK ABOUT, UM, TRYING TO PROVIDE MORE HOUSING AND THERE ARE A LOT OF JOBS ALONG THAT AREA NOW, BUT THIS SEEMS TO BE, UH, THE KIND OF HOUSING THAT ISN'T GONNA NECESSARILY SUPPORT THE PEOPLE WHO WANNA WORK IN THOSE BUSINESSES ALONG THERE.
THIS ISN'T WORKFORCE HOUSING, AND I'M A REAL ADVOCATE OF WORKFORCE HOUSING.
IF WE'RE GONNA CHANGE THE RULES TO PUT MORE HOUSING OUT THERE, I THINK IT SHOULD BE THE KIND OF HOUSING THAT ENABLES PEOPLE TO LIVE NEAR WHERE THEY WORK.
AND ALMOST ALL THE CONSTRUCTION THAT HAS GONE ON ALONG BROADWAY OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS
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HAS NOT BEEN GEARED TOWARDS HELPING PEOPLE LIVE NEAR BROADWAY.BUT TO GO AHEAD AND ATTRACT MORE HIGH DOLLAR, UH, TENANTS TO THAT AREA.
UH, AND NOW WE'RE GETTING FURTHER AND FURTHER AWAY FROM BROADWAY.
EXCUSE ME, TRYING TO DO THE SAME THING.
SO, YOU KNOW, I I THINK THAT WE OUGHT TO, UM, STAY WITH THE, THE CITY'S RECOMMENDATION OR THE DEPARTMENT'S RECOMMENDATION AND HOLD OUT FOR SOME REAL WORKFORCE HOUSING THAT PEOPLE CAN AFFORD TO LIVE, WORK, AND PLAY IN THE SAME AREA.
SO I WOULD BE VOTING AGAINST IT.
COUNCILMAN OR COMMISSIONER GARCIA? COMMISSIONER, CAN YOU USE YOUR MICROPHONE? I'M SORRY.
AND, UH, I KNOW THAT, UM, THEIR CIVIL SERVICE JOBS RIGHT ACROSS IN THE MILITARY, WAS THAT A CONSIDERATION WHEN, UH, DEVELOPING, UH, THIS PROJECT? YES, SIR.
I MEAN, WHEN STAFF DOES A RECOMMENDATION, WE LOOK AT THE REGIONALLY, THE WHOLE AREA, WHAT'S ACROSS THE STREET, WHAT'S NEXT DOOR, WHAT'S WITHIN A FEW BLOCKS, UH, IN ALL DIRECTIONS NORTH, SO EAST WEST.
UM, AND SO THIS PLAN WAS ADOPTED IN 2019.
AND SO THE RECOMMENDED LAND USE THAT THEY CAME UP WITH WHEN THEY WORKED WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WAS FOR URBAN LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, WHICH AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, ALLOWS UP TO M F 18.
SO FOR THEIR PARTICULAR ACREAGE THAT WOULD ALLOW 22 UNITS.
AND SO WE FELT THAT THAT WAS APPROPRIATE AS, AS IS THE LAND USE EXISTS TODAY, UM, FOR WHAT THEY COULD POTENTIALLY REZONE TO.
WELL, UM, MORE OF A COMMENT THAN A QUESTION ACTUALLY.
I WANT TO, UM, COMMEND, UM, EMILY AND KI GRIFFIN FAIRMONT WITH WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITIES TO, UH, COME TO THIS LOWER DENSITY NUMBER.
I KNOW THAT, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, AND THE NEIGHBORS WERE DISTRESSED, UM, AT THE IDEA OF A HUNDRED ADDITIONAL UNITS ON THIS PROPERTY.
UH, AND SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FEELING IS AMONG NEIGHBORS ABOUT 50 UNITS.
MANY OF THE EMAILS AND DOCUMENTS THAT WE HAVE READ IN OPPOSITION TO THE PROJECT ARE DATED FROM LAST FALL AND LAST SUMMER.
SO IT'S HARD TO GAUGE WHAT THE COMMUNITY SUPPORTS CURRENTLY IN THIS AMENDED, UH, PLAN.
DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA ABOUT THAT? WE DO HAVE A VOICEMAIL.
CAN WE PLAY THAT VOICEMAIL? HI, MY NAME IS STEPHANIE.
I AM THE, UH, I LIVE IN 3, 2 6 NICK STREET ON ALSO 3 3 8 NIKA STREET.
UM, I AM CALLING TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT OF THIS REZONING.
UM, IT WOULD BE A VERY WELCOME CHANGE TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE SURROUNDING HOMES.
UM, I THINK THAT AREA NEEDS A LOT OF, UM, WORK AND A LOT OF REVITALIZATION AND WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT, UM, RESIDENTIAL AS POSSIBLE, ALTHOUGH WE WELCOME THE SURROUNDING COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES AS WELL.
SO WE ARE ALL VERY MUCH IN SUPPORT OF THIS REZONING.
MY NAME IS JUST THE ONE VOICEMAIL.
COMMISSIONER SIEGEL, DO YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS.
I WANNA ECHO WHAT COMMISSIONER SIEGEL SAID AND, AND THANK YOU ALL FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE WITH THE COMMUNITY.
UM, CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THE PRICE POINT OF THESE TOWN HOMES WOULD BE? DO YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION? WE DON'T YET.
THESE ARE GONNA BE FOR SALE TOWN HOMES.
UM, SO WE DON'T HAVE THOSE FINALIZED PRICES YET.
ASHLEY FAIRMONT, KILLING GRIFFIN AND FAIRMONT.
UM, YEAH, WE DON'T KNOW THE PRICE POINT OF YET.
THE FOR SALE UNITS, UH, I THINK THEY'RE STILL DOING MARKET REVIEW OF, OF WHAT THEY COULD SELL FOR.
I WILL SAY THOUGH, THAT WHEN WE HAD THE PROJECT AT THE 92 UNITS, UM, ACTUALLY THE HIGHER DENSITY SUPPORTS THE LOWER RENTS.
UH, SO THE PROJECTS, THE RENTAL PROJECT WAS ACTUALLY PROBABLY MORE AFFORDABLE, UH, THAN THE FOR SALE PROJECT, JUST BECAUSE WE WERE ABLE TO GET MORE UNITS ON THE PROPERTY.
AND MF 18 ACTUALLY MEANS EVEN LESS UNITS, SO EVEN HIGHER COST.
YEAH, SO THESE ARE, THESE ARE VARIOUS
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FLOOR PLANS.THEY RANGE FROM ABOUT 1400 SQUARE FEET TO ABOUT 1700 SQUARE FEET.
UM, YOU CAN SEE IN THE PRELIMINARY, UH, PROJECT LAYOUT, UM, RATHER THAN OUR ORIGINAL REQUEST, WHICH WAS A SINGULAR FOUR STORY STRUCTURE.
FIRST FLOOR WAS STRUCTURED PARKING, AND THEN THREE STORIES OF 92 UNIT RESIDENTIAL.
UM, THIS BREAKS UP, ADDS A LITTLE BIT MORE GREEN SPACE, A LITTLE BIT MORE CONNECTIVITY, UM, DIFFERENT PARKING FUNCTIONS.
UM, BUT THESE ARE THREE DIFFERENT, UH, VARIOUS FLOOR PLANNED OPTIONS THAT, THAT RANGE FROM THAT MIDDLE AGE.
AND SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE HAVE SHARED WITH THE COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE MET WITH THE COMMUNITY SEVERAL TIMES.
UM, WE HAVE AN UPCOMING ADDITIONAL MEETING BEFORE THIS PROCEEDS TO COUNCIL WITH THE COMMUNITY.
UM, SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING REALLY, REALLY HARD, UM, IN ADDRESSING THEIR CONCERNS WITH HEIGHT.
THAT WAS THE DRIVING CONCERN BEFORE.
UM, AND, AND ADDRESSING THE CONCERNS WITH DENSITY.
THEY'RE, THEY, SO THEY'RE FAIRLY LARGE.
UM, AND A QUESTION, I GUESS THIS IS REALLY FOR STAFF.
WHAT INCENTIVES ARE THERE OUT THERE FOR DEVELOPERS AND FOR COMMUNITY TO CREATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD? WELL, THAT WAS, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD COORDINATE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD H UH, SERVICES HOUSING DEPARTMENT OR NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICE DEPARTMENT, HOWEVER YOU WANNA SAY IT.
UH, BUT THEY DO HAVE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT THEY CAN PARTICIPATE IN THAT CAN HELP WITH THOSE KINDS OF DEVELOPMENTS.
CAN, CAN YOU EMILY OR ASHLEY, CAN EITHER OF Y'ALL SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THAT? ABOUT, UH, WHAT KINDS OF PROGRAMS MAYBE WERE LOOKED AT? UH, YOU KNOW, I, I REALLY DON'T KNOW COMMISSIONER, WHAT KIND OF PROGRAMS WE COULD LOOK TO FOR THE FOR SALE PRODUCT.
UM, BUT HAPPY TO REACH OUT AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING AVAILABLE TO, TO HELP MAKE THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE AFFORDABLE.
AND YOU'D MENTIONED THAT WHEN IT WAS A, A POSSIBILITY OF RENTAL MM-HMM.
THE, THE UNITS WERE MUCH SMALLER.
UH, AND AGAIN, JUST BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF DENSITY WE WERE ABLE TO KEEP THE RENTAL RATES LOWER.
SO, BUT HAPPY TO TALK TO NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING AVAILABLE, UM, FOCUSED ON THIS AREA, FOCUSED ON THIS TYPE OF HOUSING OR, OR ANYTHING TO, TO BRING THE PRICE POINT DOWN.
CAN YOU SAY WHY THE DECISION WAS MADE TO GO TO A FOR SALE PRODUCT RATHER THAN RENT? SURE.
UM, AND SO WHEN WE STARTED WITH THE RENTALS, UH, THAT WAS A A, A PROJECT AND, AND EMILY CAN SPEAK TO IT AS WELL, BUT, UH, THAT HAD BEEN PRESENTED TO GOVERNMENT HILL.
UH, THEY WERE SUPPORTIVE OF, OF THE PRODUCT.
UM, BUT WHEN TALKING TO THE NEIGHBORS WHO LIVE CLOSEST, THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT DENSITY IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC AND THEN ALSO PARTICULARLY ABOUT, UM, THE BUILDING HEIGHT.
UH, AND SO IN ORDER TO KEEP PARKING OFF OF THE STREET, WE NEEDED THE STRUCTURED PARKING.
AND THEN SO THE BUILDING WAS, WAS TALLER AND THEY WERE VERY CONCERNED.
THEY HAVE A LOT OF THOSE UNITS YOU CAN SEE ON THE AERIAL HAVE ROOF ROOFTOP, UM, TERRACES, I GUESS YOU WOULD CALL IT PATIOS.
AND SO THEY WERE WORRIED ABOUT BUILDINGS BEING BUILT RIGHT NEXT TO THEM THAT WERE TALLER THAN THEM.
THAT WAS, WE, WE HEARD IT QUITE A BIT.
IT'S, IT'S BEEN A TOUGH PROCESS AND Y'ALL HAVE REALLY BEEN TROOPERS GOING THROUGH IT.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ZUKI, CAN I GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT HAS THE FIRST PLAN? ABSOLUTELY.
IF, UH, IF I CAN ASSUME THAT THE LOT ON THE RIGHT AND THE LOT ON THE LEFT IS ABOUT 50% OF THE LOT THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE.
I BELIEVE SO, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW THAT I, YEAH, JUST ROUGHLY BASED ON WHAT I SEE, I GUESS IT IS.
UM, IF, YEAH, I WOULD GET, IF I, IF IF I WOULD GO AND SPLIT THAT PIECE OF FLAT INTO TWO AND THE APPLICANT COME IN HERE TODAY TO ASK FOR MF 25, SIMILAR TO THE ONE IN THE SOUTH, I THINK I WILL GRANT THAT RIGHT.
UH, GIVEN THAT, UH, PER SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THAT LOT, UH, THAT DENSITY WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE.
UH, SO THAT'S MY TAKE INTO THIS.
UH, THIS IS TWICE THE SIZE AND IF WE HAVE MF 25 DOWN HERE ON HALF OF THAT SIZE, SO I GUESS THAT WOULD TAKE, UM, MF 50, WHICH IS THE PROPOSED NUMBERS OF UNITS.
SO I, UH, I THINK I WILL APPROVE THIS.
SO THAT'S MY, JUST, THAT'S MY TAKE INTO IT.
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THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.UH, A LOT OF THE COMMENTS HAVE EVER BEEN MADE, BUT AGAIN, APPRECIATIVE TO THE REPRESENTATIVE AND THE DEVELOPER FOR WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY TO ADDRESSING THEIR CONCERNS SPECIFICALLY WITH HEIGHT AND DENSITY.
I MEAN, I, I SEE I D Z I SEE MF 25.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DENSITY IS OF THE UNITS THAT ARE MF 18, IF THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE OR CO WITH MF 18, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT, UM, I THINK THE AREA'S RIGHT FOR DEVELOPMENT, UM, I, I UNDERSTAND COUNCILMAN COURAGE IS, IS SEEKING, IS, IS, UM, MORE WORKFORCE HOUSING.
AND I WOULD, YOU KNOW, CHALLENGE US AS A COMMUNITY TO WORK FOR, TO INCENTIVES, ESPECIALLY WITHIN THE INNER CITY TO PROMOTE THAT TYPE OF ACTIVITY.
BUT FOR THIS PARTICULAR CASE, I THINK I, I WILL BE IN SUPPORT AS WELL OF THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.
SO MOTION TO APPROVE APPLICANT'S REQUEST, UH, BY COMMISSIONER MILAM.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER, UH, SIEGEL.
[Approval of Minutes ]
ONTO THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING.ARE THERE ANY CHANGES OR AMENDMENTS NEEDS NECESSARY FOR THE MINUTES? HEARING NONE.
I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
MOTION TO APPROVE MINUTES BY COMMISSIONER MILAM.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA.
ANY UPDATES FROM STAFF OR DIRECTOR'S REPORT? NOTHING FOR TODAY.
IT'S 2 32 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.