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          ANTONIO. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY. 
          THE TIME IS 2:03 PM ON THE 31ST DAY OF MAY, 2023. 
          WE'LL CALL OUR B SESSION ORDER. 
          MADAM CLERK, COULD YOU READ THE ROLE? COUNCIL MEMBER BRAVO HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER MCKEE RODRIGUEZ. 
          PRESENT, COUNCIL MEMBER VERAN. 
          HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA. 
          HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER CASTILLO. 
          HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER CAVEDA. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER CASTRO. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER PLI. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE PRESENT. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY. 
          HERE. 
          MAYOR EHRENBERG. 
          HERE. 
          MAYOR. 
          WE HAVE A QUORUM. 
          ALRIGHT, UH, WE HAVE 
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ONE ITEM ON THE AGENDA TODAY THAT IS THE VIOLENT CRIME REDUCTION PLAN BRIEFING. 
          UH, SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO CITY MANAGER ERIC WALSH. 
          SHOULD GET US STARTED. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          SO, UM, ONE PRESENTATION AS YOU SAID TODAY, AND IT'S AN UPDATE ON THE FIRST 120 DAYS OF THE, UH, VIOLENT CRIME REDUCTION PLAN THAT WE LAID OUT TO THE COUNCIL. 
          UM, UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BEGAN WORKING WITH U T S A, UM, LAST YEAR ON THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE DEPARTMENT, AND DR. 
          SMITH IS HERE, UH, AND WILL GIVE PART OF TODAY'S PRESENTATION. 
          THE CHIEF WILL ALSO UPDATE THE COUNCIL ON WHERE WE'RE AT IN TERMS OF CRIME STATS, UH, THROUGH THE FIRST, UH, FOUR MONTHS OF THE YEAR. 
          AND, UM, UM, AND THEN DR. 
          SMITH WILL TALK ABOUT THE FIRST TWO 60 DAY PERIODS AND THE RESULTS THAT WE'VE SEEN. 
          UH, WE ARE CURRENTLY IN OUR THIRD PERIOD RIGHT NOW, WHICH WILL END AT THE END OF JUNE. 
          SO THAT I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE CHIEF. 
          THANK YOU, RICK. 
          SO I WANNA GO OVER, UH, THE FIRST QUARTER NBRS CRIME REPORTS, AND THEN THAT WILL LEAD INTO DR. 
          SMITH'S, UH, REVIEW OF THE HOTSPOT POLICING INITIATIVE. 
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SO THE FIRST QUARTER, JANUARY THROUGH APRIL OF THIS YEAR, OVERALL CRIME IN SAN ANTONIO WAS DOWN 2.4%. 
          THE BIGGEST REDUCTION WE SEE IS, UH, MINUS 16.5% IN CRIMES AGAINST PERSON OR VIOLENT CRIME. 
          AND THEN CRIMES AGAINST SOCIETY, UH, REDUCTION THERE 5.8 OR 6%. 
          AND THEN CRIMES AGAINST PROPERTY, UH, SLIGHT INCREASE, 3.2%. 
          SO LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS, UM, THE VIOLENT CRIME, OUR MOST FREQUENTLY REPORTED CRIME IS ASSAULT. 
          UH, HOWEVER, WE SEE A 16.5% REDUCTION IN THAT. 
          NUMBER TWO IS SEX OFFENSES, UH, REDUCTION IN THAT AS WELL, 20%. 
          AND THEN, UM, HUMAN TRAFFICKING UP SLIGHTLY OR UP A LITTLE BIT, LITTLE BIT, UH, BY THE NUMBERS. 
          AND THEN KIDNAPPING. 
          AND, UH, ABDUCTIONS UP SLIGHTLY BASED ON THE NUMBERS AS WELL, BUT AN OVERALL REDUCTION IN VIOLENT CRIMES. 
          UH, 16 POINT A HALF PERCENT. 
          THE NEXT GROUP, UH, CRIMES AGAINST SOCIETY. 
          THESE CRIMES ARE CRIMES THAT DON'T SPECIFICALLY HAVE VICTIMS. WE'RE TALKING CRUELTY TO ANIMALS, DRUGS, GAMBLING, PORNOGRAPHY, PROSTITUTION, WEAPONS, OFFENSES. 
          UH, WE SEE A SLIGHT REDUCTION OF ALMOST 6% IN THOSE CRIMES. 
          AND THEN LASTLY, CRIMES AGAINST PROPERTY. 
          UH, THE MOST FREQUENTLY REPORTED CRIME AGAINST PROPERTY IS THEFT OR LARCENY. 
          UH, SECOND DESTRUCTION, UH, DAMAGE VANDALISM OR CRIMINAL MISCHIEF. 
          AND THEN, UH, NUMBER THREE, WE'RE LOOKING AT MOTOR VEHICLE THEFT. 
          AND LASTLY, UH, BURGLARY OF VEHICLE, ALTHOUGH IT'S MOST FREQUENTLY REPORTED, ONE OF THE MOST FREQUENTLY REPORTED, IT'S DOWN MINUS 16%. 
          UM, THAT'S, UH, VEHICLE, UH, VEHICLE BURGLARIES WERE BREAKING AND ENTERING AS THEY CALL IT IN U C R. 
          UH, LET ME TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW WE GOT STARTED WITH U T S A. 
          SO BACK LAST YEAR, I THINK IT WAS MAYBE IN THE SPRING OR SUMMER, I WAS READING AN ARTICLE ABOUT A DALLAS CRIME REDUCTION PLAN. 
          AND I READ IT A FEW TIMES AND THEN DECIDED TO CALL DR. 
          SMITH, HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT IT. 
          ACTUALLY, THE SECOND TIME, UH, I READ ABOUT IT WAS WHEN DALLAS WAS SHOWING A REDUCTION IN CRIME. 
          SO I CALLED DR. 
          SMITH. 
          WE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT IT, ABOUT, UH, BRINGING THEM ON HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          UH, AND WE'VE WORKED TOGETHER SINCE THEN TO COME UP WITH THIS CRIME REDUCTION PLAN. 
          AND, UM, SO FAR, VERY SUCCESSFUL. 
          UM, THE PLAN FOCUSES ON, ON, AS I MENTIONED, UH, ADDRESSING VIOLENT CRIME. 
          THOSE VIOLENT CRIMES ARE MURDER, NON NEGLIGENT MANSLAUGHTER, AGGRAVATED ASSAULT OR DEADLY CONDUCT WITH AT LEAST ONE VICTIM. 
          AND THEN ROBBERY OF BOTH INDIVIDUALS AND BUSINESSES. 
          AND WE'VE COMPLETED THE FIRST 120 DAYS, UH, OF THAT, UH, OF THAT PLAN. 
          WE STARTED IN JANUARY, AND WE'RE UP THROUGH APRIL NOW WORKING ON THE THIRD, UH, THE THIRD, UH, PHASE OF THAT, OR THE THIRD SET OF THE THIRD 60 DAY PHASE OF THAT. 
          AND WITH THAT, UH, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE, UH, DR. 
          MICHAEL SMITH TO TALK ABOUT THE, THE, UH, MORE ABOUT THE VIOLENT CRIME REDUCTION PLAN. 
          THANK YOU, CHIEF MCMANUS. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. 
          THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. 
          AND GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, WHAT WE FOUND AFTER THE FIRST 120 DAYS OF THE, UH, OF THE CRIME PLAN. 
          I'M, I'M GONNA START OUT, AND THEN I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO MY COLLEAGUE, ROB TILLER, WHO'S WITH ME. 
          HE'S GONNA WALK, WALK THROUGH A FEW SLIDES WITH YOU, AND THEN I WILL COME BACK AT THE END, UM, TO WRAP UP AND TAKE QUESTIONS. 
          SO, UM, THIS, UH, THIS IS WHERE WE STARTED. 
          UM, THIS IS WHAT CRIME WAS DOING IN SAN ANTONIO PRIOR TO THE, UM, THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CRIME PLAN IN JANUARY OF, OF THIS YEAR. 
          SO, UM, VIOLENT CRIME WAS UP, UM, PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY VIOLENT. 
          STREET CRIME AS CHIEF MCMANUS DEFINED THAT FOR YOU. 
          THAT IS THE, THE FOCUS OF, OF THE, OF OUR CRIME REDUCTION STRATEGY THAT WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER WITH, WITH YOU ALL AS YOUR, AS PARTNERS ON IT'S, IT'S, WE CALL VIOLENT STREET CRIME. 
          SO, UM, SO IT WAS UP 47%, UH, IN THE, IN THE THREE YEARS LEADING UP TO THE IMPLEMENTATION OF, OF THE CRIME PLAN IN JANUARY. 
          JUST AS A, AS A QUICK REMINDER, THE, UH, THE STRATEGY OR THE, THE, THE PLAN IS COM COMPRISED OF THREE STRATEGIES. 
          A, A NEAR TERM STRATEGY, WHICH IS A FOCUS ON HOTSPOTS POLICING, 
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WE LIKE TO SAY 21ST CENTURY HOTSPOTS, POLICING BASICALLY OFFICERS SITTING IN LIGHTED PATROL CARS FOR 15 MINUTES AT KEY, UH, KEY CRIME TIMES AND DAYS OF THE WEEK IN, UM, IN YOUR MOST VIOLENT, UM, VIOLENT GRIDS, UH, WHICH IS OUR UNIT OF ANALYSIS. 
          THESE ARE, UM, A HUNDRED METER, A HUNDRED METER GRIDS, UH, THAT WE FOCUS ON IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          UH, AND YOU HAVE ROUGHLY 135,000 OF THOSE, UM, IN THE CITY. 
          AND WE TREAT ABOUT 25 OR OR SO IN ANY GIVEN TREATMENT PERIOD. 
          SO A VERY SMALL FRACTION, VERY SMALL FRACTION OF THE, OF THE LAND AREA AND IS, IS BEING TREATED. 
          BUT WHEN IT IS BEING TREATED, IT'S, IT'S A 15 MINUTE WINDOW OF OFFICERS SITTING IN THEIR PATROL CARS WITH ALL THE LIGHTS TURNED ON TO BE AS VISIBLE AS THEY CAN TO DETER CRIME IN THE AREA. 
          UM, THE MIDTERM STRATEGY IS, UH, WE CALL A PROBLEM ORIENTED, PLACE-BASED POLICING STRATEGY. 
          UM, IT ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS THE PROXIMATE CAUSES OF VIOLENT CRIME AT PERSISTENTLY VIOLENT PLACES. 
          UH, WE HAVEN'T BEGUN THAT STRATEGY YET, UM, ALTHOUGH WE'RE, I THINK, PROBABLY ON THE CUSP OF IT, AND I WILL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT TOWARD THE END WHEN WE, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE TIMELINE AND WHERE WE GO FROM HERE. 
          UM, BUT THIS, THIS UPDATE FOR YOU TODAY IS ALL ABOUT, UM, THE NEAR TERM STRATEGY. 
          THE LONGER TERM STRATEGY IS FOCUSED DETERRENCE. 
          UM, AND IT IS FOCUSED ON INDIVIDUALS, HIGH RISK OFFENDERS. 
          UM, WE KNOW FROM A GREAT DEAL OF, OF RESEARCH THAT, UH, VIOLENT CRIME HAPPENS IN A RELATIVELY FEW NUMBER OF PLACES, AND IT'S COMMITTED BY RELATIVELY FEW NUMBER OF PEOPLE. 
          AND SO THAT GIVES, THAT GIVES US LE A LEVER, TWO LEVERAGE POINTS TO USE, UM, TO FOCUS WHAT ARE TYPICALLY, UM, NOT INEXHAUSTIBLE RESOURCES TO DEAL WITH, UH, WITH VIOLENT CRIME. 
          AND SO FOCUS DETERRENCE IS DOWN THE ROAD A BIT, UM, BUT IT IS, UH, SORT OF THE THIRD LEG OF THE STOOL, IF YOU WILL. 
          SO THE HOTSPOTS POLICING STRATEGY BEGAN IN JANUARY. 
          UM, AGAIN, WE'RE FOCUSED ON 100 METER GRIDS, UH, ABOUT 25 TO 28 OF THEM AT A TIME, 15 MINUTES AT A TIME, PEAK CRIME TIMES, PEAK CRIME HOURS AT KEY LOCATIONS THAT, UH, MY TEAM DOES THE ANALYSIS FOR WHERE THESE LOCATIONS ARE. 
          UH, IT'S BASED 100% ON REPORTED VIOLENT CRIME. 
          UM, AND THOSE ANALYSES ARE REDONE EVERY 60 DAYS, AND THE POLICE MOVE RESOURCES AROUND TO NEW HOTSPOTS EVERY 60 DAYS. 
          SOME OF THOSE HOTSPOTS DROP OFF, UH, SOME REMAIN, SOME NEW ONES COME ON. 
          UM, THAT'S TYPICALLY THE PATTERN AND IS WHAT WE'VE SEEN HERE IN SAN ANTONIO OVER THE LAST, UH, TWO PERIODS. 
          UM, SO PERIOD ONE WENT FROM JANUARY TO THE END OF FEBRUARY, AND THEN PERIOD TWO FROM MARCH TO THE END OF APRIL. 
          UH, SO WE, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A NUMBER OF ANALYSES, UH, THAT WE DO. 
          SO STARTING WITH WHAT WE CALL TREATMENT FIDELITY, OR ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TRACK VERY CAREFULLY WITH THE S A P D IS WHETHER OFFICERS ARE, ARE MARKING OUT OUR, ARE DISPATCHED, UH, TO THOSE, THOSE HOTSPOTS AT THE, AT THE APPROPRIATE TIMES, MEANING AT IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE SCHEDULE THAT'S BEEN DEVELOPED, UH, BASED ON THOSE PEAK CRIME TIMES AND PEAK CRIME, UH, DAYS OF THE WEEK. 
          AND SO, UH, WE TRACK, WE TRACK FIDELITY PRETTY CAREFULLY, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT SOME SLIDES ON THAT. 
          UM, YOU'LL SEE SOME, SOME SLIDES ON, ON WHAT CRIME HAS BEEN DOING CITYWIDE, UM, IN THE TREATED HOTSPOTS THEMSELVES, IN CATCHMENT AREAS, WHICH ARE AREAS RIGHT AROUND EACH OF THE TREATED HOTSPOTS. 
          UH, IT'S ABOUT A THOUSAND FOOT BUFFER THAT WE DRAW. 
          UM, AND WE LOOK FOR CRIME, UH, CHANGES IN THOSE PARTICULAR AREAS IN PARTICULAR TO CHECK FOR DISPLACEMENT TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT CRIME MAY HAVE MIGRATED FROM YOUR HOTSPOT TO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE STREET NEXT DOOR OR, OR TWO BLOCKS AWAY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          SO A THOUSAND FOOT BUFFER IS, UM, PRETTY TYPICAL. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE, THAT'S WHAT WE, WHERE WE LOOK FOR FOR CRIME DISPLACEMENT. 
          AND THEN WE ALSO LOOK AT RESULTS BY INDIVIDUAL CRIME TYPE AND WE'LL, YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THAT AS WELL. 
          UM, SO JUST QUICK SUMMARY OF WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE. 
          WE'VE SEEN CITYWIDE REDUCTIONS IN VIOLENT CRIME. 
          THOSE WERE ALSO REFLECTED IN CHIEF MCMANUS STATISTICS THAT HE GAVE YOU A MINUTE AGO. 
          UM, THERE'S BEEN CONSISTENT REDUCTIONS IN OUR HOTSPOT AREAS. 
          UH, THERE'S NO BEEN NO CONSISTENT EVIDENCE OF DISPLACEMENT. 
          UM, MOST CRIME TYPES ARE DOWN, UM, WHEN YOU COMPARE IT TO LAST YEAR, SAME TIME LAST YEAR. 
          UM, AND THE FIDELITY, OR THE EXTENT TO WHICH OFFICERS ARE, ARE EXECUTING THE PLAN AS IT'S DESIGNED HAS BEEN VERY HIGH, UM, WELL ABOVE 90%. 
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AND AT THIS POINT, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO MY COLLEAGUE ROB TILLER. 
          HE'LL WALK THROUGH A FEW SLIDES WITH YOU AND THEN I'LL BE BACK WITH YOU IN AT THE END. 
          GREAT, THANKS, MIKE. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. 
          UM, SO I JUST WANT TO SORT OF DRILL INTO THOSE SUMMARY FINDINGS A LITTLE BIT AND PROVIDE A LITTLE CONTEXT. 
          UM, THIS IS A MAP OF THE HOTSPOTS THAT WERE TREATED BOTH IN PERIOD ONE AND PERIOD TWO, UH, PERIOD, ONE IN RED AND PERIOD TWO IN BLUE. 
          UM, YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE SPREAD ACROSS THE CITY IN VARIOUS LOCATIONS AND IN SOME, SOME LOCATIONS. 
          UM, THEY WERE TREATED IN BOTH PERIODS, UM, AGAIN, DRIVEN BY THE ANALYSIS OF THE DATA THAT INDICATED PLACES THAT, UM, NEEDED ATTENTION. 
          SO AS MIKE MENTIONED, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE MOST INTERESTED IN, IN INITIALLY IS THE, UM, THE ADHERENCE TO THE PLAN AND TO THE DEPLOYMENT OF S A P D OFFICERS TO THE PLACES WE WANT THEM TO BE WHEN WE WANT THEM TO BE THERE. 
          UM, WE'VE BROKEN IT APART HERE BY PERIOD ONE IN PERIOD TWO, AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE LEFT HAND COLUMN THE FIDELITY PERCENTAGE OVER 92% IN PERIOD ONE, AND NEARLY 96% IN PERIOD TWO, UM, WITH THE AVERAGE TIME ON SCENE AS WELL. 
          AND, AND SOME OF THE, THE OTHER NUMBERS UNDERLINE THOSE PERCENTAGES, BUT I THINK IN SOME THAT, UH, THOSE PERCENTAGES ARE EXTREMELY HIGH. 
          UM, GIVEN THE CONTEXT OF THE SIZE OF CITY, THE SIZE OF THE AGENCY, THE DEMANDS ON OUR OFFICERS, UM, TO HAVE THEM DEPLOYED AT THAT, UH, RATE OF FIDELITY IS, UH, QUITE HONESTLY IMPRESSIVE. 
          UM, AND, AND A LOT OF CREDIT SHOULD BE GIVEN TO THE OFFICERS AND THE LEADERSHIP WITHIN SS A P D ENABLED TO, TO, TO ENABLE THAT LEVEL OF COMPLIANCE. 
          IT'S, IT'S QUITE IMPRESSIVE. 
          OKAY, SO LET'S TALK ABOUT PERIOD ONE FOR A MINUTE. 
          WE DO TWO BASIC ANALYSES WHEN WE LOOK AT, UH, THESE PERIOD REPORTS. 
          WE LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED DURING THE TREATMENT PERIOD ITSELF, WHICH WAS JANUARY AND FEBRUARY OF 2023. 
          AND WE LOOK AT IT IN TWO WAYS. 
          WE LOOK AT IT, WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN COMPARISON TO WHAT WAS HAPPENING LAST YEAR AT THE SAME TIME. 
          SO JANUARY AND FEBRUARY OF 2022. 
          AND THOSE ARE THE SOLID BARS YOU CAN SEE THERE. 
          AND WE ALSO LOOK AT THE TREATMENT PERIOD AGAIN, JANUARY, FEBRUARY 23 VERSUS THE PREVIOUS 12 MONTHS. 
          AND THAT'S IN THE, THE LINED BARS. 
          UM, AND WE LOOK AT IT SORT OF AS AN AVERAGE, AN AVERAGE INCIDENCES PER MONTH IN THOSE, IN THOSE TIME PERIODS. 
          ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, THE TWO BARS ARE CITYWIDE IN THE MIDDLES TREATMENT AND ON THE RIGHT'S CATCHMENT. 
          SO THIS PROVIDES US WITH A VIEW, UH, WITH A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT LENSES ACROSS A, A, A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT, UH, PERSPECTIVES. 
          SO CITYWIDE, YOU CAN SEE THAT DURING JANUARY AND FEBRUARY ACROSS THE ENTIRE CITY COMPARED TO LAST YEAR, THE SAME TIME CRIME, VIOLENT CRIME, THE ONES THAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON HERE IN THIS PLAN'S DOWN 10.9%, BASICALLY 11%. 
          AND IF YOU COMPARE THAT SAME TREATMENT PERIOD OF TIME, CITYWIDE COMPARED TO THE LAST 12 MONTHS, IT'S ABOUT 13.5% DOWN. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, REALLY POSITIVE REDUCTIONS, THE CENTER BARS THERE, THE TREATMENT, UM, GRA UH, BARS ARE REALLY, I THINK, THE MOST IMPRESSIVE THING IN THE SENSE THAT THOSE ARE THE SPACES, THE, THE, THE TREATED LOCATIONS, THOSE A HUNDRED METER GRIDS THAT OFFICERS ARE SPENDING TIME IN, UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT JANUARY AND FEBRUARY THIS YEAR, COMPARED TO LAST DOWN 25% IN THOSE SPACES WHEN YOU COMPARE IT TO THE LAST 12 MONTHS, DOWN 40%. 
          SO THE PRESENCE OF OFFICERS IN THOSE PLACES, ACCORDING TO THE PLAN, ACCORDING TO THE EVIDENCE THAT WE USE TO DIRECT THEM TO TIMES AND PLACES AND LOCATIONS, IS HAVING THEM, UH, YOU KNOW, A MARKED IMPACT ON THE VIOLENT CRIME INCIDENTS. 
          AND THEN IN THE FAR RIGHT, YOU SEE THE CATCHMENT ANALYSIS, AGAIN, AS MIKE SUGGESTED, THAT IS NOT THE TREATED GRIDS THEMSELVES, BUT AREAS RIGHT AROUND THE TREATED GRIDS TO SEE IF THERE'S, IF THEIR CRIME IS MOVING NEXT DOOR, SO TO SPEAK. 
          AND AGAIN, YOU SEE, UH, REDUCTIONS THERE OF 18% COMPARED TO LAST YEAR, AND, YOU KNOW, ROUGHLY FLAT SLIGHTLY DOWN COMPARED TO THE LAST 12 MONTHS. 
          SO NO REAL EVIDENCE OF CRIME MOVING SOMEWHERE ELSE. 
          UM, DESPITE THE FACT THAT IT'S GOING DOWN THE TREATMENT, IT'S ALSO GOING DOWN CITYWIDE. 
          SO ACROSS THE BOARD, UH, REALLY POSITIVE RESULTS THERE. 
          THIS IS JUST A VISUAL GRAPH OF, OF THE TREATMENT, UH, THE CRIME AT THE TREATMENT GRIDS OVER THAT, UH, PERIOD. 
          YOU CAN SEE THE RED VERTICAL BAR THERE. 
          THAT'S WHEN TREATMENT STARTED, BASICALLY JANUARY 1ST, 2023. 
          UM, THE GREEN LINE OR THE TREATMENT GRIDS, THE BLUE LINE OR THE CATCHMENT GRIDS. 
          AND IF YOU JUST LOOK AT THE GREEN LINE, YOU CAN SEE, UM, OVER THE COURSE OF THE SPRING INTO THE SUMMER OF LAST YEAR AND INTO THE FALL, WHY THOSE PLACES WERE FLAGGED AS PARTICULARLY CONCERNING. 
          AND WHAT HAPPENED ONCE TREATMENT BEGAN IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY, YOU CAN SEE THAT SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN THE GREEN LINE, UM, CATCHMENT'S A LITTLE MORE VARIABLE. 
          AGAIN, THAT'S, THOSE ARE PLACES THAT AREN'T GETTING ANY TREATMENT, SO WE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY EXPECT TO SEE ANY HUGE CHANGES. 
          BUT NONETHELESS, AS I POINTED OUT IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, THERE'S SOME EFFECT THERE AS WELL. 
          AND THE LAST THING I'LL JUST NOTE ON PERIOD ONE, UH, THESE ARE THE CRIME TYPE SPECIFIC RESULTS. 
          UH, SAME ANALYSIS THIS YEAR VERSUS LAST YEAR, THIS YEAR, UH, CURRENT TREATMENT PERIOD VERSUS LAST 12 MONTHS FOR MURDER, ROBBERY OF, UH, OF INDIVIDUALS, ROBBERY OF BUSINESSES IN THE MIDDLE, AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS. 
          THOSE ARE NON-FAMILY VIOLENCE. 
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ALSO, TO BE, TO BE CLEAR, AGAIN, WE'RE FOCUSED ON STREET CRIME, SO NOT, UM, NOT FAMILY VIOLENCE RELATED AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS AND THEN DEAD DEADLY CONDUCT. 
          UM, LARGELY, YOU KNOW, ALL IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION. 
          UH, YOU, YOU CAN SEE A COUPLE OF UPTICKS IN ROBBERY OF INDIVIDUALS IN ROBBERY OF BUSINESS. 
          I WILL NOTE, AND THERE'S A NOTE ACROSS THE TOP IN RED THERE THAT THESE PERCENTAGE CHANGES ARE ALSO BASED ON A VERY SMALL, UH, OVERALL INCIDENT CHANGE. 
          UM, AND IN THE CASE OF I THINK ROBBERY, BUSINESS OF BUSINESSES, I THINK IT MOVED FROM, UH, ON AVERAGE OF ONE INCIDENT ACROSS THE TWO MONTHS TO TWO INCIDENTS ACROSS THE TWO MONTHS. 
          SO A VERY SMALL, UH, SLIGHT, UH, OVERALL INCIDENT CHANGE WHILE THE PERCENTAGE CHANGE IS, IS A LITTLE BIT MORE NOTICEABLE. 
          BUT AGAIN, THE STORY HERE, I THINK LARGELY IS THAT WE SEE REDUCTIONS ACROSS MOST OF THE CRIME TYPES. 
          THIS IS PERIOD TWO. 
          UH, SAME ANALYSIS HERE. 
          WE'RE LOOKING AT MARCH AND APRIL OF 2023 COMPARED TO MARCH AND APRIL OF 2022 COMPARED TO THE LAST 12 MONTHS. 
          UM, AGAIN, CITYWIDE YOU SEE A REDUCTION THIS YEAR VERSUS LAST YEAR OF, UH, UH, NEARLY 10%. 
          UM, AND ABOUT A 4% REDUCTION COMPARED TO THE LAST 12 MONTHS. 
          UH, AGAIN, STRONG EFFECTS FOR TREATMENT. 
          UH, 42% REDUCTION IN TREATED GRIDS IN MARCH AND APRIL OF 23 COMPARED TO MARCH AND APRIL OF 22. 
          AND AN EVEN BIGGER INCREASE RELATIVE TO THE LAST 12 MONTHS UP, UP NEARLY IN THE 55% RANGE. 
          SO THOSE ARE REALLY PRONOUNCED AND SIGNIFICANT IN TERMS OF, OF IMPACT. 
          WE SEE SOME EVIDENCE HERE POTENTIALLY OF, UH, A SLIGHT UPTICK IN SOME OF THE, UH, CATCHMENT AREAS OR THE AREAS AROUND THE GRIDS, UH, UH, IN PERIOD TWO. 
          UM, SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO MONITOR, UH, AGAIN, THOSE AREN'T PLACES THAT WE'RE DIRECTLY TREATING. 
          AND SO THERE, THERE IS SOMETIMES SOME VOLATILITY THERE. 
          AND I'LL SHOW YOU ACTUALLY HERE ON THE, THE SORT OF TEMPORAL LINE GRAPH. 
          WHAT YOU'LL NOTICE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE BLUE LINE IN PARTICULAR, AND YOU GO BACK ALL THE WAY TO THE LEFT HAND SIDE, YOU CAN SEE MARCH AND APRIL OF 22, UH, IN PARTICULAR APRIL OF 22, ONLY 13 INCIDENTS IN THOSE CATCHMENT AREAS. 
          SO IT WAS A VERY LOW NUMBER THE REST OF THE YEAR. 
          THE CATCHMENT AREAS ARE UP IN THE MID TWENTIES, UM, AND THIS YEAR THEY'RE IN THE SORT OF RIGHT AROUND 20. 
          AND SO THAT EXPLAINS THAT UPTICK IN PERCENTAGE CHANGE THERE. 
          THERE WAS A, A REAL, I THINK AN ANOMALY IF YOU LOOK AT THE DATA IN APRIL OF 22. 
          UM, BUT NONETHELESS, THE TREATMENT IN THE GREEN, YOU CAN SEE AGAIN, A STRONG EFFECT OF, UH, WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS AND THEN ONCE TREATMENT BEGAN, AND ITS SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION. 
          UM, AND HERE FINALLY ARE THE CRIME SPECIFIC RESULTS FOR PERIOD TWO. 
          AGAIN, YOU SEE THIS, THE, THE, THE BAR IN, IN, UH, IN RED FOR MURDER. 
          AGAIN, THAT'S A HALF A MURDER PER MONTH, UH, ON AVERAGE TO ONE MURDER PER MONTH ON AVERAGE. 
          SO A VERY SMALL INCIDENT CHANGE. 
          WELL, OBVIOUSLY ANY MURDERS ARE, ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATE AND UN YOU KNOW, WE WE WANNA ELIMINATE, BUT, BUT, UM, THOSE ARE VERY SMALL OVERALL INCIDENT CHANGES, AND THE REST OF CRIME TYPES ARE, ARE SIGNIFICANTLY DOWN IN TERMS OF OVERALL PERCENTAGE. 
          AND I'M GONNA TURN IT BACK OVER TO MIKE HERE, AND THIS IS JUST A SUMMARY SLIDE OF, OF THE DATA WE JUST SHOWED. 
          SO I'LL FINISH UP WITH THIS AND THEN, UM, KINDA SHOW YOU WHAT, WHAT, UH, WHAT'S COMING NEXT. 
          UM, AGAIN, THIS JUST A SUMMARY OF WHAT WE'VE JUST BEEN GOING OVER. 
          UM, BASICALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, CRIME IS DOWN, YOU KNOW, VIOLENT CRIME IS DOWN COMPARED TO LAST YEAR, UH, IN THE TREATMENT AREAS, UH, AND IN, IN CITYWIDE THAT'S THE, UH, COMPARED TO THE SAME PERIOD LAST YEAR AND, AND, UM, OVER THE LAST 12 MONTHS AS AN AVERAGE AS WELL. 
          SO, I MEAN, THE, THE STORY IS LARGELY A GOOD ONE. 
          AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, UH, KIND OF HEARTENED BY THAT. 
          UM, SAME TIME, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME IN, IN CHIEF MCMANUS NUMBERS I THINK REFLECTED THIS, UM, OVERALL VIOLENT CRIME IS DOWN, UH, PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY. 
          UM, MURDERS ARE UP, AND THAT'S, THAT'S A PATTERN THAT WE'VE BEGUN TO SEE NATIONALLY. 
          UM, AND I GET ASKED ABOUT THAT A LOT. 
          AND ALSO, I JUST KIND OF SPEAK TO IT, UM, UPFRONT. 
          I, THERE'S A, THERE'S A DECOUPLING THAT SEEMS TO BE OCCURRING BETWEEN, UH, GUN RELATED AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS IN THE CITIES THAT WE'RE WORKING IN, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT ARE DOWN AND MURDERS, WHICH ARE UP. 
          AND I, I DON'T HAVE A GREAT EXPLANATION FOR THAT. 
          UM, I CAN TELL YOU THAT TALKING TO THE POLICE OFFICIALS, UM, THE, THE PATTERNS THAT THEY SEE, OR AT LEAST THAT THEY REPORT THAT THEY SEE ARE, UM, AN INCREASING, UH, AMOUNT OF JUVENILE CRIME. 
          UM, THAT IS A JUVENILE MURDERS IN PARTICULAR, THAT IS A, UH, THAT IS NOT JUST A SAN ANTONIO PHENOMENON, BUT THAT'S A NATIONAL PHENOMENON. 
          UM, AND WHEN YOU HAVE KIDS WHO ARE KILLING KIDS, THEY TEND TO BE VERY UNPREDICTABLE. 
          UM, 
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THEY DON'T FOLLOW SOME OF THE TYPICAL MURDER PATTERNS, IF YOU WILL, OF, UM, OF DRUG INVOLVED KILLINGS. 
          UM, A LOT OF THEM ARE BEEFS, THEY'RE SOCIAL MEDIA DRIVEN. 
          UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S THE, UH, THAT'S THE, THE CAUSE OF THE, THE CAUSAL AGENT OF THAT DECOUPLING THAT I MENTIONED, I'M, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY CRIMINOLOGISTS THAT ARE ENTIRELY SURE ABOUT THAT, BUT IT IS A PHENOMENA THAT WE'RE BEGINNING, THAT WE ARE SEEING NOT JUST IN SAN ANTONIO, BUT ELSEWHERE. 
          UM, BUT, BUT OTHER THAN, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THE, THE, THE STORY, THE VIOLENT CRIME STORY HERE IS ACTUALLY A, IS A, IS A PRETTY GOOD ONE. 
          UM, SO NEXT STEPS, UH, I MENTIONED THE, THE MIDTERM STRATEGY THAT WE'RE SORT OF ON THE CUSP OF, OF, UH, BEGINNING TO, UH, PUT THAT INTO, INTO EFFECT OR TO, TO PLAN FOR THAT ANYWAY, UM, IT IS, UM, IT'S A DATA-DRIVEN STRATEGY DESIGNED TO IDENTIFY THE PROXIMATE CAUSES OF VIOLENCE AT CRIME PRONE PER WHAT WE CALL PERSISTENTLY VIOLENT PLACES. 
          AND SO EVERY CITY HAS THESE, UM, THERE ARE PLACES IN EVERY, EVERY BIG URBAN AREA THAT IF YOU TALK TO, TO RESIDENTS, LONGTIME RESIDENTS OR POLICE, THEY WILL TELL YOU, YEAH, THIS, THIS PLACE HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN A PROBLEM OR BEEN A VIOLENT PLACE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. 
          UM, WE KNOW THAT PUTTING POLICE OFFICERS, UM, IN LIGHT OF PATROL CARS, UM, IN, AT HOTSPOTS IS AN EFFECTIVE STRATEGY. 
          THERE'S MANY YEARS OF EVIDENCE TO SHOW THAT THAT'S TRUE. 
          IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE UNDERLYING CONDITIONS, THOUGH. 
          UM, IT IS A PROPHYLACTIC STRATEGY THAT'S DESIGNED TO DETER PEOPLE WHO MIGHT OTHERWISE COMMIT CRIME AT PLACES WHERE THEY TYPICALLY COMMIT IT. 
          UM, BUT TO REALLY GET AT THE, THE PRO THE PROXIMATE CAUSES OR THOSE LONG-TERM CAUSES OF VIOLENCE IN THESE PLACES, YOU NEED A DIFFERENT STRATEGY. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT THIS STRATEGY IS DESIGNED TO DO. 
          IT BRINGS TOGETHER A MULTIDISCIPLINARY TEAM, UH, ACROSS, UM, CITY GOVERNMENT, UH, INCLUDES THE POLICE, BUT A VARIETY OF OTHER TYP. 
          CITY DEPARTMENTS ARE TYPICALLY INVOLVED IN THESE EFFORTS AS WELL. 
          UM, I'VE LISTED A FEW OF THEM. 
          UM, THAT'S JUST A REPRESENTATIVE LIST THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO BE THE PARTICULAR MIX. 
          UM, EVERY PLACE IS DIFFERENT AND EVERY PLACE, UH, HAS ITS OWN UNIQUE PROBLEMS, UH, AND, AND IT, AND POTENTIALLY ITS OWN UNIQUE SET OF SOLUTIONS, BUT IT'S THE JOB OF THAT MULTIDISCIPLINARY TEAM, UH, TO DIAGNOSE WHAT THOSE UNDERLYING CONDITIONS ARE THAT HAVE CAUSED THIS PLACE OR THAT PLACE TO BE VIOLENT FOR SO LONG. 
          UM, AND THEN TO, TO COME TOGETHER, WE HOPE, WITH SOME CREATIVE SOLUTIONS FOR, UM, HOW TO ADDRESS THOSE LONG-TERM PROBLEMS. UH, SO THAT'S WHAT'S COMING, UH, NEXT. 
          AND WE'LL GET STARTED, UH, IN THAT, I THINK SOON. 
          UM, WE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS TODAY. 
          WE HAVE A WEEKLY PHONE CALL WITH THE SS A P D. 
          TODAY WAS OUR, OUR WEEKLY PHONE CALL DAY. 
          UH, AND WE DISCUSSED THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE BEGINNING FOR THE PLANNING ANYWAY, FOR THIS NEXT PHASE OF THE STRATEGY. 
          UM, SO THAT, UM, THOSE BULLET POINTS LAY OUT FOR YOU SOME SORT OF A ROUGH TIMELINE OF WHERE THAT MAY, WHERE THAT MAY GO FROM HERE. 
          UH, SO HOPE TO, TO TRAIN THE DEPARTMENT HEADS, WHICH IS WHERE WE START, BY THE WAY, UM, WITH THIS STRATEGY SOMETIME IN, UM, IN THE, UH, IN THE FALL, EARLY FALL, LATE SUMMER, EARLY FALL, UM, BRING TOGETHER THE WORKING GROUP, WHICH ARE THE WORKING GROUP, BY THE WAY, ARE WHEN WE BRING THE DEPARTMENT HEADS TOGETHER TO, UM, TO GIVE THEM A COUPLE OF HOURS, UH, OVERVIEW FOR THE, UH, UH, THE PHILOSOPHY, UM, OF THIS, OF THIS STRATEGY. 
          AT THE END OF THAT, WE ASK THEM TO NAME A MEMBER OF THEIR STAFF, TYPICALLY A MID-LEVEL MANAGER, LET'S SAY, UM, WHO WILL SERVE ON THAT WORKING GROUP, UM, ALONG WITH, UM, MID-LEVEL MANAGERS FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          AND THEY WILL COME TOGETHER AS THE WORKING GROUP. 
          UM, AND THEIR JOB WILL BE TO, TO DO A REALLY DEEP DIVE ANALYSIS OF THESE PROBLEM PLACES, UM, WHAT'S BEEN DRIVING THAT FOR SO LONG, AND, UH, GATHERING AS MUCH DATA THAT THEY IN, THEY COLLECTIVELY HAVE, UH, WITHIN THEIR WORK GROUPS. 
          UM, PUTTING THAT OUT ON, ON THE TABLE. 
          UM, AND THEN COMING UP WITH, AGAIN, WHAT WE HOPE OUR CREATIVE CROSS-DISCIPLINARY SOLUTIONS TO DEAL WITH THE PROBLEMS. UM, WE'RE THERE TO SUPPORT THAT TEAM AS IT GOES ALONG FOR ANY ANALYSIS THAT MAY BE NEEDED. 
          UM, AND SO THE, BUT THAT'S WHERE THE, WHERE THE REAL WORK IS DONE, IT'S DONE BY THAT WORKING GROUP. 
          UM, THEY WILL THEN DEVELOP SOME SOLUTIONS. 
          THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT HAPPENS, USUALLY A LOT OF SOLUTIONS. 
          UM, AND THEY'LL BRING THOSE SOLUTIONS BACK TO THE BOARD, UM, 
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OR THEIR BOSSES, BASICALLY THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT, THIS IS WHAT OUR ANALYSIS SUGGESTS, UM, HAS BEEN GOING ON HERE IN THIS PLACE FOR SO LONG. 
          THIS IS WHAT OUR PROPOSED SOLUTIONS ARE, AND WHAT DO YOU THINK? UM, AND, AND TYPICALLY THE, THE MANAGERS WILL GIVE THEM, OR THE DEPARTMENT HEADS WILL GIVE THEM SOME FEEDBACK BACK, AND, AND THEY'LL EVENTUALLY, THEY'LL FINALIZE THE PLAN, UM, AND THEN THEY'LL PUT THAT PLAN IN. 
          THE CITY WILL PUT THAT PLAN INTO EFFECT. 
          AND, UH, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO TRACK THE OUTCOME OF THAT, OF THOSE EFFORTS, UM, OVER TIME. 
          UM, SO TYPICALLY WE START THIS, THIS PHASE WITH ONE LOCATION. 
          THIS IS, UM, SOMETIMES A UNIQUE WAY OF DOING BUSINESS, UH, BRINGING TOGETHER MULTIDISCIPLINARY TEAMS LIKE THIS. 
          UM, AND SO, UM, OUR TYPICAL ADVICE IS TO START SMALL AND TO, UH, IS TO START WITH ONE PLACE AND THEN, UH, KIND OF WORK THE PROCESS, HONE THE PROCESS, LEARN, UM, AND THEN IN, IN THE, IN THE, IN THE COMING MONTHS, THEN ADD ADDITIONAL LOCATIONS AGAIN BASED ON CAREFUL ANALYSIS OF WHERE THESE PROBLEMS HAVE EXISTED FOR A LONG TIME, UM, IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          SO THAT'S, UM, THAT'S WHAT'S COMING SOON, I HOPE. 
          UM, AND WITH THAT, UM, WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. 
          I'D LIKE TO JUST CLOSE THIS OUT REAL QUICK BY SAYING THAT, THAT WE ARE ALL ON MY TEAM AND DR. 
          SMITH'S TEAM. 
          WE ARE ALL CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO SEE A DOWNWARD TREND IN CRIME, UH, VIOLENT CRIME RIGHT NOW. 
          I, I SUSPECT THAT WHEN WE START THE SECOND PHASE OF THIS, WE'LL PROBABLY SEE PROPERTY CRIMES AFFECTED AS WELL, BUT WE ALL REMAIN CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC. 
          YEAH. 
          JUST A COUPLE OF CLOSING, UH, THOUGHTS, MAYOR. 
          ALSO, UM, THE, AS WE MOVE TOWARDS THE MIDTERM STRATEGIES LATER ON IN THE SUMMER, UM, AS DR. 
          UM, TILLER, UH, LAID OUT, DR. 
          SMITH LAID OUT, YOU KNOW, UM, WE, WE, WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE INCORPORATING THE THINGS WE'RE LEARNING THROUGH THE GOOD NEIGHBOR PROGRAM, WHICH IS LAUNCHING TOMORROW. 
          UM, A MULTIDISCIPLINARY TEAM REALLY FOCUSED ON HIGH CALL AREAS, UM, AND, AND MANY OF THE, MANY OF THE SAME, UH, DEPARTMENTS POTENTIALLY INVOLVED, UH, CODE THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, UH, A C SS, UM, THE, UH, METRO HEALTH, UH, VIOLENCE PREVENTION PREVENTION FOLKS. 
          UM, AND, AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF POTENTIAL CROSSOVER FOR US, UH, LATER ON BEYOND THIS, ON AN ADDITIONAL, AN ADDITIONAL WORK THAT, UH, WE'RE WORKING ON WITH U T SS A THAT IS, UH, INVENTORYING, UH, CITY SERVICES AND, UM, THEIR IMPACT ON PUBLIC SAFETY AND CRIME PREVENTION. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, I SEE THIS AS, AS JUST ONE OF MANY STEPS TO TRY TO CHANGE THE WAY WE'RE DEALING WITH, UH, NOT ONLY VIOLENT CRIME, BUT UM, AREAS OF NEED WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO THOSE ARE ALL COMING DOWN THE, DOWN THE, DOWN THE LINE. 
          AND I DID WANNA REMIND THE COUNCIL THAT OUR, OUR BEGINNING PARTS OF THE GOOD NEIGHBOR PROGRAM IS STARTING TOMORROW. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION, Y'ALL. 
          UM, THIS IS GOOD STUFF. 
          AND LET ME JUST START, WHERE, WHERE YOU ENDED UP, UH, ON THE MIDYEAR STRATEGY, WHAT IS THE, UM, WHAT IS THE PROCESS FOR INCORPORATING COMMUNITY INPUT IN REALLY LOOKING AT, 'CAUSE THERE'S ONE THING TO LOOK AT DATA AND METRICS, BUT ALSO HEARING THE STORIES BEHIND THAT FROM THE COMMUNITIES, UH, PARTICULARLY IN THAT INITIAL TREATMENT AREA. 
          ARE YOU, ARE, ARE YOU PLANNING A COMMUNITY PROCESS TO GET THAT KIND OF, UM, FIRST PERSON DATA? SO, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, MAYOR. 
          THAT'S DRIVEN BY THE BOARD, UH, AND BY THE, BY THE WORKING GROUP. 
          SO EVERY PROBLEM IS DIFFERENT AND EVERY LOCATION IS DIFFERENT. 
          SOMETIMES COMMUNITY INPUT IS, IS NECESSARY, SOMETIMES IT'S NOT. 
          SO, UM, IT'S REALLY, IT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, UM, RESPONSIBILITY IS REALLY ON THAT WORKING GROUP, UM, TO, TO DECIDE WHAT NEEDS TO BE EXAMINED AND WHETHER COMMUNITY INPUT IS NECESSARY. 
          WE'VE SEEN THAT DONE IN OTHER CITIES, UH, BY THE WAY WHERE, UH, THE WORKING GROUP SAYS, YEAH, IT'S ABSOLUTELY VITAL THAT WE GET, UH, THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY'S INPUT IN THIS AREA, FOR EXAMPLE, OR THE RESIDENTS OF AN APARTMENT COMPLEX INPUT, UM, IN THAT AREA. 
          UM, THAT'S NOT ALWAYS THE CASE, BUT OFTENTIMES IT'S, AND SO, SO WHEN, WHEN DR. 
          SMITH SAYS THE BOARD, REMEMBER THE, THE INITIAL PRESENTATION THE BOARD IS MADE UP OF, IT'S NOT REALLY A, A BOARD, IT'S THE MULTI-DEPARTMENTAL TEAM AND YEAH. 
          TERM OF ART. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, AND, AND I THINK, I THINK REALISTICALLY WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT IF WE HAVE A PARTICULAR ISSUE THAT WE'RE TACKLING ON A COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR OR A, A NEIGHBORHOOD, THEN THERE'S SOME SEMBLANCE 
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OF, OF COMMUNICATION THAT THAT IS GONNA BE PART OF THAT STRATEGY. 
          UM, SO THAT'S NUMBER ONE. 
          NUMBER TWO, I THINK IS THIS DEVELOPS THE ONGOING REPORTS PUBLICLY. 
          AND THE CONVERSATIONS THAT HAPPEN AT PUBLIC SAFETY ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS, IS KIND OF THAT OVERLAYING THAT ADDITIONAL LAYER. 
          BUT I THINK, I THINK, UM, MUCH LIKE WE SAW WITH, UM, DELA, THERE IS A SERIOUS COMMUNITY ELEMENT THAT NEEDS TO EXIST IN SOME OF THESE CASES. 
          AND I THINK WE'RE GONNA LEARN SOME OF THAT FIRSTHAND AS WE GO THROUGH THE GOOD NEIGHBOR PROGRAM. 
          YEAH, AND I, I JUST, I WOULD NOT OVERSTATE THE, I I DON'T THINK IT'S HARD TO OVERSTATE THE VALUE OF THE COMMUNITY INPUT, BECAUSE, I MEAN, I THINK WE ALL HAVE THEORIES AROUND THE TABLE ABOUT WHAT IS CAUSING, UH, SOME OF THE INCREASE IN CERTAIN TYPES OF CRIME. 
          UH, WE KNOW THERE'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TRAUMA, UH, WE KNOW CHALLENGES, UH, TO COMMUNITY RELATED TO ECONOMIC SECURITY, YOU KNOW, MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, THE AVAILABILITY OF GUNS. 
          UH, THERE'S A WHOLE SLEW OF ISSUES AND, AND, YOU KNOW, TYING THOSE THINGS TO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE ACTUAL CRIME NUMBERS AND TRYING TO DRAW THAT ANALYSIS ACADEMICALLY IS IMPORTANT. 
          BUT ALSO CHECKING YOUR MATH BASED ON THE REAL WORLD DA REAL WORLD DATA AND STORIES THAT ARE COMING FROM THE NEIGHBORHOODS OF OUR COMMUNITY, I THINK IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT. 
          UH, SO I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE, UM, US TO BE PUSHING ON THAT AS MUCH AS WE CAN. 
          UM, I DO APPRECIATE DR. 
          SMITH, DR. 
          TILLER, YOU, YOU'RE MAKING MENTION THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING ON THE HOTSPOT POLICING AND SORT OF THE MICRO GRIDDING OF THE COMMITTEE, WHICH WE PUSHED, UH, TO, TO, TO ACCOMPLISH FOR, FOR SOME TIME NOW IS DIFFERENT THAN THAT UPSTREAM WORK, UH, AND DATA ANALYSIS THAT'S GONNA GO ON. 
          I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN THE FOCUSED DETERRENCE AND GETTING TO, YOU KNOW, GETTING PEOPLE AROUND THE TABLE TO ANALYZE THE DATA. 
          SO, UH, IN THAT SENSE, I KNOW THE BOARD, AS YOU'RE CALLING IT ON OUR SIDE, IS GONNA BE INTERDEPARTMENTAL. 
          WHAT ABOUT ON YOUR SIDE ARE MORE THAN JUST CRIMINAL JUSTICE FOLKS GONNA BE LOOKING AT, UH, THE DATA THAT'S COMING IN? BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD THINK THERE'S VALUE IN GETTING PERSPECTIVES ACROSS ACADEMIA ON, ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE SEEING. 
          SO, YEAH, JUST LET ME, UM, KIND OF CLARIFY OUR ROLE. 
          I THINK OUR ROLE AT THIS POINT IS TO ADVISE, PROVIDE STRATEGIC ADVICE TO THE, TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, TO THE CITY, TO THIS GROUP AS IT GETS GOING, UM, TO, UM, TO BACKSTOP ANY ANALYTIC NEEDS THAT THE GROUP MAY NEED AS IT GOES ALONG. 
          TYPICALLY THEY HAVE, UM, OUR EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN THAT THESE GROUPS, UM, THEY BRING THEIR OWN DATA TO THE TABLE. 
          EVERY CITY AGENCY THAT, THAT MAY BE AFFECTED HERE, OR MAY BE A STAKEHOLDER, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN DATA ON THESE PROBLEMS. UM, AND THEY'VE TYPICALLY LOOKED AT IT A LOT, . 
          UM, THE GOAL IS TO GET ALL THEIR DATA IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY ELSE SO THAT THEY CAN SHARE THEIR PERSPECTIVES ACROSS THESE, THE, THE CITY STAKEHOLDERS. 
          UM, AGAIN, IF THERE'S MORE HIGH LEVEL ANALYSIS THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE THAT WE CAN ASSIST WITH, WE'RE ABSOLUTELY THERE TO, TO DO THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, AND THEN ON THE BACK END, WE, WE ASSESS IMPACT, UH, BOTH IMPLEMENTATION AND, AND IMPACT FROM AN EVALUATION STANDPOINT. 
          SO ONCE THE GROUP COMES UP WITH ITS STRATEGIC PLAN FOR HOW IT'S, UH, HOW IT'S SUGGESTING TO DEAL WITH A SET OF PROBLEMS, UH, AND WE, AGAIN, WE, WE CAN, WE ARE THERE TO ADVISE 'EM ALONG THE WAY BASED ON OUR EXPERIENCE IN OTHER PLACES, BUT, UM, AT THAT POINT, OUR GOAL, OUR, OUR JOB REALLY IS TO SEE, DID THEY DO WHAT THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO DO AND THE IMPLEMENTATION MM-HMM. 
           AND THEN WHAT IMPACT DID IT HAVE? YEAH. 
          UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF OUR ROLE FROM HERE ON OUT. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S HELPFUL. 
          AND, UM, I AGREE WITH THE CHIEF. 
          I THINK THESE ARE, WE CAN BE CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC ABOUT WHAT, WHAT IT'S ALREADY SHOWING AND, AND OBVIOUSLY MORE TREATMENT AREAS AND MORE DATA WILL BE HELPFUL IN FIGURING OUT WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE VARIABILITY OF THOSE IMPACTS ARE. 
          UM, SO LET ME, LET ME GO TO THE VERY START THEN AND JUST ASK YOU AS YOUR, FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE, I, UM, READING THE REPORT IS DIFFERENT THAN HEARING THE PRESENTATION. 
          IT'S MUCH SIMPLER TO UNDERSTAND HEARING YOUR, YOUR, YOUR REPORT ON IT, UH, WHICH IS GREAT. 
          SO FROM A, FROM A, I GUESS A PERSPECTIVE AS A SCHOLAR IN THIS RESEARCH, GIVE US SOME CAUTIONARY ADVICE AND ENSURING THAT WE'RE READING THESE REPORTS AND LOOKING AT THIS DATA THE RIGHT WAY SO THAT OUR COMMUNITY AND THE COUNCIL DON'T DRAW THE WRONG CONCLUSIONS. 
          SURE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT QUESTION. 
          LEMME GO BACK A COUPLE OF SLIDES HERE TO, UM, THIS SLIDE RIGHT HERE, 
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FOR EXAMPLE, THIS IS PERIOD ONE. 
          SO THE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE USE GREEN AND RED, UH, FOR A REASON. 
          UH, 'CAUSE IT'S TYPICALLY EASILY UNDERSTOOD AND GREEN MEANS GREEN IS GOOD, AND RED IS, IS THE DIRECTION THAT WE DON'T WANNA SEE. 
          UM, CRIME IS DOWN CITYWIDE, UH, VIOLENT CRIME IS DOWN 11% IN PERIOD ONE. 
          UM, AND, UH, UH, A LITTLE BIT LESSER AMOUNT, 10% OR SO IN PERIOD TWO COMPARED TO THE SAME PERIOD LAST YEAR. 
          UM, THAT'S THE SOLID BARS THAT YOU SEE. 
          AND SO THE, THE BIG PICTURE TAKEAWAY HERE, I THINK IS THAT CITYWIDE VIOLENT CRIME IS DOWN COMPARED TO LAST YEAR, UM, IT'S DOWN COMPARED TO THE AVERAGE OVER 12 MONTHS. 
          THE TREATMENT AREAS ARE SUBSTANTIALLY DOWN 25% IN PERIOD ONE AND 40% OR SO IN PERIOD TWO. 
          THE TREAT, THIS IS THE TREATMENT EFFECT THAT YOU TYPICALLY SEE WITH HOTSPOTS POLICING. 
          UM, AND I THINK THE, THE BIG PICTURE IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE PHASE ONE OF A THREE, OF A THREE PART STRATEGY, AND WE'VE JUST REALLY GOTTEN STARTED WITH IT. 
          UM, TO SEE THE KIND OF RESULTS THAT WE'VE SEEN HERE SO FAR ARE VERY, IT'S VERY ENCOURAGING. 
          UM, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO BE, TO BE DONE STILL A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE. 
          AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I, SO WHILE, WHILE WE'RE, I THINK CHIEF MCMANUS USED THE TERM CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC THAT THESE TRENDS WILL CONTINUE, UM, AND THE, THIS HOTSPOTS POLICING IS NOT GONNA SOLVE THE VIOLENT CRIME PROBLEM IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          UM, IT'S GONNA, IT'S GONNA RE REQUIRE AN ALL OF GOVERNMENT APPROACH. 
          IT'S GONNA REQUIRE THE COMMUNITY ABSOLUTELY. 
          THE ADDITIONAL COMPONENTS THAT ARE PART OF THIS, OF THIS PLAN, TAKE INTO, INTO ACCOUNT THOSE, THOSE OTHER NEEDS, UH, AND LEVERAGE THOSE, THOSE TWO SORT OF REALITIES ABOUT CRIME. 
          THAT THE VIOLENT CRIME THAT YOU SEE HAPPEN HAPPENS IN A RELATIVELY SMALL NUMBER OF PLACES, AND IT'S COMMITTED BY A RELATIVELY SMALL NUMBER OF PEOPLE. 
          SO WE FOCUS ON THOSE FIRST WITH HOTSPOTS. 
          POLICING BRING SOME OF THE OTHER STRATEGIES THAT ARE MORE, MORE HOLISTIC AND DESIGNED TO ADDRESS THOSE UNDERLYING CONDITIONS AND THE PEOPLE WHO, WHO COMMIT CRIME FURTHER ALONG. 
          AND, BUT, BUT ALL OF THE COMMUNITY EFFORTS, AND I, I WAS JUST ASKED TO SIT ON METRO HEALTH'S VIOLENCE, UH, COMMUNITY VIOLENCE, UH, TASK FORCE. 
          UM, THOSE ARE VITAL TOO. 
          THOSE EFFORTS ARE VITAL TOO. 
          UM, THIS IS, THIS IS ONE, ONE COG IN A BIGGER WHEEL. 
          UM, AND WE'RE, WE'RE CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC WITH WHAT WE'VE SEEN SO FAR. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK DR. 
          SMITH. 
          UM, ON THAT NOTE, I, I WOULD ASSUME AS WE GO INTO THIS MIDTERM AND WE ASSEMBLED A BOARD THAT METRO HEALTH IS GONNA BE ONE OF THE BIGGER CHAIRS IN THAT PROCESS, RIGHT? ALONG WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          THANKS Y'ALL. 
          UH, LET ME GO TO COUNCIL DISCUSSION. 
          WE'LL START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER KIWATO. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. 
          UH, I THINK THE MAYOR MAY MENTION THAT THERE'S, THIS IS A DATA ON A PAGE AND IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT, BUT, UM, I, I THINK WE HAVE TO REMEMBER SORT OF A LOT OF, A LOT OF CONTEXT AND, UM, THE MAYOR MENTIONED SOME OF THE THINGS, BUT I, I ALSO WANNA REMIND US THAT WE'RE STILL, UM, WE'RE RECOVERING FROM THE PANDEMIC. 
          SO, UH, THE, THE NUMBERS THAT WE'RE COMPARING TO LAST YEAR, UH, I WONDER HAVE WE COMPARED THEM TO 2020 OR 2019? UM, JUST BECAUSE SO MUCH WAS SHAKEN UP IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, BUT ALSO, UM, THE GROWTH THAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED IN THE LAST FEW YEARS. 
          UH, I THINK THAT IT'S GOOD TO SEE THE NUMBERS ARE GOING DOWN FOR SOME OF THE CRIMES, BUT IT'S, IT'S REALLY KIND OF, UM, INTERESTING GIVEN OUR POPULATION GROWTH THAT, THAT SOME OF THESE NUMBERS HAVE GONE DOWN. 
          YOU WOULD THINK THAT WITH POPULATION GROWING, THE NUMBERS WOULD GO UP. 
          UM, BUT DID I HEAR YOU? SO I JUST WANNA REMIND EVERYBODY TO KEEP A LOT OF THINGS IN A CONTEXT. 
          BUT THOSE TWO THINGS SPECIFICALLY. 
          UM, SO DID WE LOOK AT, DID WE COMPARE THIS TO 2019? NOT IN THIS PARTICULAR REPORT. 
          THIS IS A, ONE OF OUR SHORTER PERIOD REPORTS THAT WE DO. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WHEN WE DO OUR SORT OF MAJOR, MORE MAJOR CHECKPOINT REPORTS, LIKE AT THE SIX MONTH INTERVAL, AND, AND THEN AT THE YEAR INTERVAL, UM, WE LOOK FURTHER BACK IN TIME AS WE DID AT THE BEGINNING, UM, BEFORE WE GOT STARTED WITH A CRIME PLAN TO SEE WHAT, WHAT MAY HAVE GONE ON, FOR EXAMPLE, IN, IN THE MOST RECENT YEAR OF THE CRIME PLAN COMPARED TO THREE YEARS AGO OR TWO YEARS AGO. 
          UM, BUT NOT IN THIS, NOT IN THESE PERIOD REPORTS. 
          NO. 
          I ALSO, I ALSO WANNA JUST MAKE, UM, NOTE, UM, YOU MENTIONED ABOUT COMMUNITY INPUT. 
          IN, IN OUR WORLD, COMMUNITY INPUT IS NECESSARY AT EVERY TURN, AT EVERY JUNCTURE. 
          THAT'S OUR JOB, IS TO REPRESENT OUR COMMUNITY. 
          SO, UM, I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THE BOARD, BUT I, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE, WHAT 
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I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS A BEFORE AND, AND AFTER MAYBE OF, OF THE HOTSPOT. 
          UM, THE, THE STATISTICS SPECIFIC TO HOTSPOTS, I GUESS IN FOR NOW IN MY DISTRICT. 
          UM, WHAT'S THE BEFORE DATA AND THE AFTER DATA TO THAT PARTICULAR HOTSPOT, NOT, NOT THE OVERARCHING, UM, DATA THAT YOU'RE SHOWING HERE, UM, BUT ALSO, UH, COMMUNITY, ASKING COMMUNITY, DO YOU FEEL SAFER HERE OR DO YOU, UM, HAVE YOU SEEN THE NUMBERS GO DOWN AND FROM WHAT YOUR, YOUR PERSPECTIVE? UM, I UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT HARD DATA IN SCIENCE, AND I THINK THAT'S AGAIN, VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. 
          BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE COMMUNITY THINKS AFTER HAVE HAVING BEEN A HOTSPOT, I GUESS. 
          UM, SO I KNOW THAT, THAT EARLY ON I WANTED TO KNOW WHERE THE HOTSPOTS WERE, BUT I COULDN'T KNOW BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT, UM, THE BAD GUYS TO KNOW WHAT HOTSPOTS ARE. 
          UM, BUT, BUT NOW, POST, UH, BEING A HOTSPOT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          ONCE THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR AN AREA HAS BEEN A HOTSPOT, CAN WE GO IN AND, AND PULL THAT SPECIFIC DATA, BUT THEN ALSO TALK TO COMMUNITY? I, I THINK, I THINK WE SHOULD WE'LL WORK TO INCORPORATE THAT. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY NOT A QUESTION FOR DR. 
          SMITH. 
          THAT'S OKAY. 
          THAT'S A QUESTION FOR US AS WE CONTINUE TO MOVE DOWN THIS PHASE AND, AND COMMUNICATING IT IS, IS IMPORTANT AND, AND WE'LL NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THAT. 
          SO, UM, BUT YOU CAN PULL THE DATA FOR ME SPECIFIC TO MY, THE HOTSPOTS IN MY DISTRICT, I MEAN, SEPARATELY. 
          RIGHT. 
          I'M SURE OTHER MEMBERS WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT. 
          UM, SO I MEAN, I THINK WE'VE SEEN TODAY THAT AT LEAST FOR THE FIRST TWO MONTHS, A VIOLENT CRIME IS DROPPING. 
          PROPERTY CRIME IS, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT RISING, BUT IT'S AT LEAST STAYING PRETTY STATUS QUO. 
          UM, AND, AND YOU MENTIONED CHIEF, THAT, THAT UPON MOVING FURTHER INTO THIS PLAN THAT MAYBE WE'LL SEE PROPERTY CRIMES GO DOWN. 
          IS THERE A DIFFERENT STRATEGY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR THAT? NO, BUT I, NO MA'AM. 
          BUT, BUT I SUSPECT THAT, UM, AS WE ADDRESS THE ISSUES IN THIS PROBLEM ORIENTED, PLACE-BASED PHASE MM-HMM. 
          , IT, IT'LL ADDRESS NOT JUST VIOLENT CRIME, IT'LL, IT'LL HIT EVERYTHING, ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE, THAT ARE PROBLEMATIC AS FAR AS QUALITY OF LIFE AND, UH, UH, THE, UH, CALM IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS, ALL THOSE THINGS THAT AFFECT THAT WILL BE MM-HMM. 
           TALKED ABOUT IN THE SECOND PHASE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. 
          OKAY. 
          TO, TO INCLUDE VIOLENT CRIME AS WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THERE, IT'S GONNA BE CUMULATIVE THESE STAGES. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THERE, THE PLAN IS LAYERED AS, AS ONE PHASE BEGINS, THE OTHER ONES CONTINUE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          BUT THE, THE ORIGINAL ONES CONTINUE THAT, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. 
          GOT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          UM, SO I MEAN, I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO MEET THESE CHALLENGES WITH A, A PROCESS, RIGHT? UM, IN, IN MY WORLD, IT'S DATA COLLECTION, IT'S, UM, ACT, IT'S STRATEGY, AND THEN IT'S ACTION. 
          SO RIGHT NOW I HEAR WE'RE IN, IN DATA COLLECTION AND WE'RE, WE, WE ARE ENACTING THE STRATEGY MM-HMM. 
          , UM, AND, AND THE PLAN. 
          AND, AND SO IT'S, IT'S MY THREE KIND OF MY PERFECT WORLD THAT WE HAVE A PROCESS WITH DATA, UH, PLANS AND ACTIONS. 
          UH, WHAT I, WHAT I WANT WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS MORE INCORPORATION. 
          AND, AND ERIC, YOU MENTIONED IT TOO, THE GOOD NEIGHBOR PROGRAM, UM, TALKING ABOUT A C S AS PUBLIC SAFETY, TALKING ABOUT LIGHTING IS PUBLIC SAFETY AND HOW WE CAN, UM, AS THIS GROWS AND AS OUR, I REALLY APPRECIATE AND RESPECT THE PARTNERSHIP WITH U T S A 'CAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO GROW THAT PARTNERSHIP TO INCLUDE MORE IN, IN THE, UM, IN THE BUCKET, YOU KNOW, IN, IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUCKET. 
          WE WE'RE TALKING A LOT ABOUT THE SPOT, THE HOTSPOTS TODAY, AND I GET THAT WE'RE JUST KIND OF GETTING STARTED WITH A STRATEGIC, UM, PLAN AND, AND A AND, AND WE HAVE A PLAN AND WE'RE WORKING TOWARD ON THAT PLAN AND ALL OF THAT. 
          I'M, I WANNA BE VERY CLEAR IS IS FANTASTIC, AND I'M REALLY GRATEFUL THAT WE'RE TAKING THE TIME TO DO THIS, BUT I I, AS WE MOVE FORWARD, I DON'T WANNA JUST INCLUDE POLICING. 
          UM, I WANNA TALK MORE ABOUT THESE OTHER ISSUES THAT COME INTO PUBLIC SAFETY AS WELL. 
          LIKE, LIKE I MENTIONED, LIGHTING, A, C S, UM, OF COURSE THE GOOD NEIGHBOR PROGRAM IS IN RESPONSE TO THAT AS WELL. 
          I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT, UM, CATCHMENT, I THINK IT WAS SLIDE 22 MM-HMM. 
          . 
          UM, AND, AND YOU MENTIONED THAT CATCHMENT, THERE'S NO CONSISTENT EVIDENCE OF DISPLACEMENT. 
          CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE MORE? UM, SURE. 
          SO CATCHMENT AREAS ARE AREAS THAT ARE WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET OF THE STREET AT HOTSPOT, AND THAT'S WHERE WE LOOK TO SEE WHETHER A CRIME, UH, GOES UP. 
          UM, THAT CAN BE EVIDENCE OF DISPLACEMENT. 
          IF YOU SEE THAT NOT NECESSARILY THE CASE, AS MY COLLEAGUE POINTED OUT, WE DON'T TREAT CATCHMENT AREAS. 
          THEY'RE, THEY'RE IN PROXIMITY TO THE HOTSPOTS, BUT THEY'RE NOT ACTUALLY BEING TREATED, PARDON ME. 
          WHEN YOU SAY DISPLACEMENT, YOU MEAN THE CRIME IS BEING DISPLACED CORRECT. 
          TO THOSE CATCHMENT AREAS? THAT'S RIGHT. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          SO, UM, SO WE LOOK, THAT'S THE NATURAL PLACE THAT YOU WOULD LOOK FOR DISPLACEMENT. 
          AND SO WE DO THAT, THAT'S SORT OF BEST 
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PRACTICES WHEN YOU EVALUATE IN A HOTSPOT STRATEGY. 
          UM, SO IN PERIOD ONE, THERE WAS NO DISPLACEMENT OR THERE WAS NO, NO RISE IN CRIME IN THOSE CATCHMENT AREAS. 
          IN THE AGGREGATE, IT WOULD, IN FACT, CRIME WENT DOWN BY ABOUT 18% IN THE, IN THE FIRST PERIOD. 
          WE CALL THAT A DIFFUSION OF BENEFITS. 
          IT'S OFTEN THE CASE THAT THE AREAS IMMEDIATELY SURROUNDED A TREATED, TREATED HOTSPOT ACTUALLY BENEFIT FROM THE TREATMENT THEMSELVES. 
          UM, SO, UH, SO THAT, THAT WAS THE PATTERN THAT YOU SAW IN PERIOD ONE. 
          OKAY. 
          IN PERIOD TWO YOU SAW A A 20, SO I KNOW MY GLASSES ON, 21% INCREASE, 22% INCREASE, UM, IN, IN VIOLENT CRIME IN THE CATCHMENT AREAS SURROUNDING THOSE, THOSE TREATED AREAS, THAT IS POTENTIALLY A DISPLACEMENT ISSUE. 
          UM, BUT BECAUSE IT'S IN, IN, IN THE DIRECT OPPOSITE DIRECTION OF WHAT WE SAW IN PERIOD ONE, THAT'S WHY WE SAY THERE'S NO CONSISTENT EVIDENCE AT THIS POINT. 
          AGAIN, WE'RE TWO PERIODS INTO THIS. 
          WE WILL CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR THIS, UM, TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS IN, IN FUTURE PERIODS. 
          I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE, THE, THE, THE LITERATURE ON HOTSPOTS POLICING, WHICH IS VOLUMINOUS, DOESN'T, DOESN'T FIND CONSISTENT DISPLACEMENT EFFECTS SURPRISING TO A LOT OF PEOPLE, BUT, UM, BUT IT DOES NOT, OUR OWN EXPERIENCE IN OUR, IN THE OTHER CITIES IN WHICH WE'RE WORKING ALSO HAS SHOWN NO CONSISTENT EVIDENCE OF DISPLACEMENT OVER TIME. 
          YOU WILL OCCASIONALLY GET BLIPS LIKE THAT. 
          THAT'S, THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT IT. 
          UM, IT'S IF YOU GOT THOSE REPEATEDLY PERIOD AFTER PERIOD, THAT, THAT, THAT WOULD BE SUGGESTED THAT YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A REAL DISPLACEMENT PROBLEM GOING ON. 
          DO CATCHMENT AREAS TURN INTO HOTSPOTS, OR ARE YOU, ARE YOU JUST, ARE YOU GOING EXACT OPPOSITE OF WHERE THEY ARE? NO, SO IT REALLY DEPENDS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE REANALYZE THE CRIME DATA EVERY 60 DAYS AND HOTSPOTS MOVE AROUND. 
          UM, SOMETIMES THEY MOVE NEXT DOOR, SOMETIMES THEY DISAPPEAR. 
          YOU TREAT THEM ONE TIME AND THEY'RE NEVER HOTSPOTS AGAIN. 
          UM, AND SOMETIMES THEY MOVE 10 BLOCKS AWAY. 
          THERE'S NO REALLY CLEAR PATTERN FOR THAT. 
          UM, WHICH IS WHY WE LOOK AT CRIME DATA SO, SO FREQUENTLY, YOU KNOW, EVERY SIX DAYS, ARE YOU GONNA CONTINUE TO COLLECT DATA IN THE HOTSPOT ONCE IT'S MOVED ON, ONCE IT'S NO LONGER A HOTSPOT? WELL, WE COLLECT DATA AS, I MEAN, WE, WE GET DOWNLOADS FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT EVERY 60 DAYS FOR THE ENTIRE CITY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, AND THOSE ARE GEOCODED DOWN TO THE GRID. 
          SO YEAH, WE CAN, WE COULD GO BACK AT SOME PERIOD OF SOME LATER POINT, FOR EXAMPLE, AND SAY, OKAY, WE, YOU KNOW, BUT, AND WE, AND WE DO THAT WHEN YOU'LL SEE, WHEN YOU SEE THE LONGER PERIOD REPORTS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DO SOME ANALYSIS, FOR EXAMPLE, ON, UM, HOW MANY GRIDS DID WE TREAT IN THE LAST YEAR? HOW MANY OF THEM ARE WERE TREATED ONE TIME AND NEVER WERE TREATED AGAIN, VERSUS HOW MANY WERE RE REPEATS? UM, AND DID THEY TREAT DROP OFF THEN COME BACK AGAIN AT A LATER PERIOD? OR DID WE HAVE TO TREAT THEM MULTIPLE TIMES? AND IT'S THOSE, AND YOU'LL HAVE THOSE, YOU'LL HAVE AREAS OF THE CITY. 
          UM, THOSE ARE TYPICALLY PRIME PLACES WHERE THE, THE MIDTERM STRATEGY CAN BE USED, UM, WHERE THEY'RE PERSISTENTLY VIOLENT. 
          THEY'VE BEEN VIOLENT FOR A LONG TIME, AND YOU CAN TREAT THEM AND TREAT THEM AND TREAT THEM AND WITH HOTSPOTS. 
          AND AS I SAID, THAT'S NOT GONNA SOLVE THE PROBLEM. 
          UM, BUT, UH, BUT THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY THERE'S THREE PARTS TO THE STRATEGY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER KIO HDA, COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHE GARCIA. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR, AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. 
          I APPRECIATE YOU ALL SENDING OUT THE REPORT AS WELL. 
          UM, ON SLIDE THREE, THERE'S A BULLET POINT THAT STATES THAT CRIME IS DOWN 2.4%. 
          THAT'S CITYWIDE. 
          YES. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU, MY DEAR. 
          AND THEN, UM, WAS THE SAME CRITERIA USED TO DETERMINE THE LOCATIONS FOR PERIOD ONE AND TWO? UM, IT SEEMS LIKE THEY WERE REPEAT LOCATIONS, SO I, I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE THAT OUT AND WHAT THAT MEANS. 
          SO YES, SOME OF THEM ARE REPEAT LOCATIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND SOME OF THEM ARE NOT. 
          OKAY. 
          THE SAME CRITERIA IS ALWAYS USED. 
          IT'S, IT'S REPORTED VIOLENT CRIME. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S THE CRITERIA BY WHICH THE HOTSPOT PORTION, THE STRATEGY IS DESIGNED AROUND. 
          GOT IT. 
          AND SO THE FIDELITY RESULTS SEEM TO BE A LITTLE BIT HIGH. 
          SO, AND, AND I ASSUME THAT'S IMPORTANT TO THIS PROGRAM. 
          WOULD YOU SAY THAT THERE WAS, UM, SUBSTANTIAL OFFICER BUY-IN, SPECIFICALLY WHEN, WHEN WE WERE DESIGNING THE SUCCESS OF THE PROGRAM CHIEF? THERE IS NOW, UH, WE, WE TOOK GREAT, UH, PAINS AND WENT TO GREAT LENS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE OFFICERS UNDERSTOOD WHAT WAS HAPPENING ALL THE WAY DOWN FROM THE CAPTAIN LEVEL TO THE OFFICER LEVEL. 
          SO YES, THERE IS OFFICER BUY-IN. 
          GOT IT. 
          I JUST, I'VE HEARD MIXED MESSAGES COMING FROM, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION LIKE SAFE OFFICERS. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT, THAT EVERYONE'S ON THE SAME PAGE. 
          AND WHEN WE STARTED, I HAD HEARD, UM, 
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SOME OF THE SAFE OFFICERS WERE BEING TAKEN AWAY, AND SO THERE WAS CONCERNS WITH MY NEIGHBORS SAYING, UM, WELL, ARE THEY GONNA BE DOING THIS? ARE THEY GONNA BE AWAY FROM WHAT WE ARE DOING? SO I THINK ERIC WANTS TO ADD SOMETHING. 
          WELL, WHETHER IT'S THE SAFE OFFICER OR THE PATROL OFFICER OR THE STREET CRIME UNIT, IT'S A 15 MINUTE INCREMENT. 
          AND, AND, AND FRANKLY THE OFFICERS HAVE DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB, UM, ADHERING TO THE SCHEDULE BASED ON THAT FIDELITY SCORE YOU SAW FROM, FROM, UH, DR. 
          SMITH. 
          AND SO IT, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S PART OF THEIR COURSE OF SCOPE BUSINESS NOW IT'S ONLY 92 OR 94%, BECAUSE IF EVERYBODY'S BUSY OR ON A CALL AND WE CAN'T COVER IT, THEN WE CAN'T COVER IT. 
          BUT, UM, WE'VE BEEN, WE'VE BEEN VERY CAREFUL ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT ONE OF THOSE THREE UNITS SHOULD HAVE THE ASSIGNMENT FOR THAT 15 MINUTES. 
          WONDERFUL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES. 
          THIS IS NOT DONE, UH, AT THE EXPENSE OF THE SAFE OFFICER'S REGULAR DUTIES. 
          PERFECT. 
          UH, IT ACTUALLY CAN BE CONSIDERED PART OF THEIR REGULAR DUTIES. 
          IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN, UH, A DIRECTED PATROL ASSIGNMENT. 
          GOT IT. 
          THANK YOU CHIEF FOR THAT. 
          I THINK THAT THAT WAS ONE OF THE, THE MAJOR CONCERNS, RIGHT? WITH MY RESIDENTS. 
          I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT I ANSWER THEM CORRECTLY. 
          ON THE SUMMARY, UH, PAGE ON SLIDE 22, WE SEE, UM, SOME PERCENTAGE OF REDUCTION CITYWIDE AND IN THE TREATMENT AREAS. 
          UM, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE AVERAGE POPULATION, THE TREATMENT AREA IS? AND THEN ALSO WHAT A REDUCTION IN ONE OR TWO INCIDENTS YIELD A SUBSTANTIAL REDUCTION THEN IN CRIME BASED ON POPULATION? SO, UM, THE STREETED AREAS ARE ALL THE SAME SIZE. 
          OKAY. 
          THEY'RE A HUNDRED METERS BY A HUNDRED METERS. 
          UM, NOW IF THAT A HUNDRED METER GRID HAPPENS TO FALL IN THE MIDDLE OF AN APARTMENT, COMPLEX DENSITY, THERE'LL BE A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , IF IT FALLS IN THE MIDDLE OF A, UH, STRIP CENTER, THEN THERE MAY BE FEW ACTUAL RESIDENTS THAT LIVE THERE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO IT, IT, IT VARIES BY, BY HOTSPOT. 
          AND I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT, UH, DATA, RIGHT. 
          UM, BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT DENSITY AFFECTS, UM, UH, AFFECTS SOME OF THIS AND, AND PERCEPTION AS WELL. 
          UM, AND, AND SO, SO BACK TO THE POINT, I HAVE A, A QUESTION, I DUNNO IF IT'S AN ERIC QUESTION 'CAUSE YOU'VE BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME, BUT WAS THERE AN UNLOCK, SORRY, I MEAN, NOT THAT, BUT DO YOU HAVE, YOU'VE BEEN, BEEN AT, SINCE YOU STARTED AS AN INTERN, SORRY, ERIC, UM, BUT WAS THERE AN UNLOCKED PROGRAM AT METRO HEALTH AT ONE POINT? WHAT UNLOCKED, WASN'T IT CALLED UNLOCKED? AND IT WAS, UH, FOR, FOR SECOND LIKE TO TRY TO GET PEOPLE BACK, UM, WHO HAD BEEN FORMALLY INCARCERATED, OR MAYBE I HAVE THE WRONG NAME OF IT. 
          UM, ANYWAY, I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ON THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          BECAUSE I WAS WONDER WONDERING IT, DOESN DOESN'T SOUND FAMILIAR. 
          OKAY. 
          'CAUSE I, I, I WAS TRYING TO, TO FIGURE OUT HOW THAT KIND OF MIGHT HELP, UM, WITH THIS. 
          UM, BUT THEN ALSO LOOKING AT CAUSATION VERSUS CORRELATION. 
          AT WHAT POINT ARE YOU DEFINITELY ABLE TO SAY THAT THE REDUCTION IN CRIME WAS A PAR RESULT OF THIS PROGRAM? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE'S MIXED LITERATURE OUT THERE, UM, ON, FOR INSTANCE, THE IMPACT OF WEATHER, RIGHT? AND SO WE KNOW DURING HOT WEATHER, OKAY, BUT WHAT ABOUT RAINY WEATHER? SAN ANTONIO HAS HAD A WHOLE LOT OF PRECIPITATION IN, IN THIS, YOU KNOW, DURING THIS TIME PERIOD. 
          SO I'M TRYING TO SEE LIKE WHAT OTHER THINGS ARE YOU ANALYZING OR IS IT JUST STRICTLY THIS, WELL, FOR THIS PERIOD REPORT, IT'S, THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE LOOK AT, WE, WE, WE, FOR THESE PERIOD REPORTS, WE DO TWO MAIN ANALYSES, RIGHT? WE COMPARE CRIME IN THE TREATMENT AREAS AND IN THE CATCHMENT AREAS AND CITYWIDE TO THE SAME PERIOD A YEAR AGO MM-HMM. 
           AND THEN, UH, AND THEN ACROSS AN AVERAGE OF THE PREVIOUS 12 MONTHS. 
          UM, WE DO THAT FOR TWO REASONS. 
          THE, THE 12 MONTH AVERAGE IS JUST THAT, IT'S A 12 MONTH AVERAGE. 
          SO LOOKING ACROSS THE PAST YEAR IN THIS PLACE, HOW DID CRIME, WHAT, WHAT HAPPENED WITH CRIME WHILE THE TREATMENT WAS IN, WAS IN EFFECT, BUT WE SPECIFICALLY LOOK AT THE SAME PERIOD A YEAR AGO MM-HMM. 
           TO TRY TO, TO, TO HELP, TO HELP SMOOTH OUT THE SEASONAL EFFECTS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO, UM, CRIME IS SEASONAL IN MOST PLACES. 
          UM, IT GOES UP IN THE SUMMER, IT'S LOWER IN THE WINTER, UM, SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN IN THE FALL AND SUMMER OR FALL AND SPRING. 
          UM, SO THAT'S WHY WE DO THAT SORT OF PERIOD TO LAST YEAR COMPARISON. 
          UH, SO, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT HELPS CONTROL, IF YOU WILL SURE. 
          FOR, FOR THE SEASONALITY EFFECT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, BUT THE, THE LARGER POINT THAT, OR THE FIRST PART OF YOUR QUESTION WAS MM-HMM. 
          , UH, AT WHAT POINT DO WE CLAIM CAUSE AND EFFECT? NOT AT THIS POINT, . 
          OKAY. 
          I'LL TELL YOU THAT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE, AND WE, WE WERE, WE TALKED TO THE SS A P D, UM, SUPERVISORS YESTERDAY ABOUT THE SAME THING. 
          YOU KNOW, WE'RE VERY CAUTIOUS. 
          WE TRY TO BE VERY CAUTIOUS ABOUT NOT GETTING AHEAD OF OUR DATA. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , UM, THESE TRENDS ARE VERY POSITIVE AND WE, AND WE FEEL GOOD ABOUT THEM. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , I, YOU KNOW, AT, AT THE YEAR MARK, WE'LL DO SOME, SOME MORE SOPHISTICATED DIFFERENCES AND DIFFERENCES ANALYSIS AT THE HOTSPOT LEVEL, FOR EXAMPLE, 
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THAT WILL HELP ADDRESS THE QUESTION OF DID THE CRIME PLAN CAUSE THE DROP IN CRIME IN THE TREATED AREAS WE'RE NOT THERE YET. 
          UM, THE BIGGER QUESTION IS, DOES, DID THE CRIME PLAN CAUSE A CITYWIDE DECREASE IN CRIME? WE'RE FAR FROM THERE YET. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND I APPRECIATE THAT, THAT YOU MENTIONED YOU'RE CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC AND SO, AND, AND I GET IT, IT'S JUST A FEW MONTHS IN. 
          UM, DO YOU HAVE DATA ON ARREST AND COST FOR SERVICE BY ANY CHANCE AT THESE LOCATIONS? SO YOU'LL SEE THOSE AT THE SIX MONTH AND AT THE YEAR REPORT. 
          GOT IT. 
          WHERE WE, WE LOOK AT A BROADER SET OF METRICS, INCLUDING THOSE TWO. 
          OKAY. 
          WONDERFUL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THEN, UM, THE TIME THAT CALLS, UH, COME IN. 
          AND SO, SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, CATCHMENT, OR I'M TALKING ABOUT THE CATCHMENT AREAS NOW. 
          SO IS THERE, ARE YOU ALSO LOOKING AT THE TIME THAT CALLS COME IN AFTER, UM, THE OFFICERS LEAVE? SO IS THERE ANY CALLS DURING THAT 15 MINUTE, MINUTE PERIOD? AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THE 15 MINUTE, MINUTE PERIOD? IS THERE ADDITIONAL CALLS THAT ARE COMING IN, OR WHAT ABOUT IN THE CATCHMENT AREAS? LIKE ARE YOU LOOKING AT THAT? SO WE DON'T, NOT IN THIS REPORT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THERE'S, THERE'S NO, UM, THERE'S NO CALLS FOR SERVICE DATA ANALYSIS HERE IN THE PERIOD LARGER, UH, THE LARGER REPORTS THAT YOU'LL SEE AT THE SIX MONTH AND THE YEAR INTERVAL. 
          WE ANALYZE SORT OF TRENDS IN CALLS FOR SERVICE. 
          PERFECT. 
          UM, AND WE TYPICALLY LOOK AT THOSE, UM, AT CITYWIDE AND IN BY POLICE DIVISION, UM, OR SUBSTATION HERE. 
          SO, UM, WE DON'T DRILL DOWN INTO CALLS FOR SERVICE AT THE INDIVIDUAL HOTSPOT LEVEL. 
          THAT WOULD BE, UM, IT'S FEASIBLE TO DO THAT, BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE TYPICALLY DO, UH, TO, TO THAT GRANULAR LEVEL OF DETAIL WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW TO, UH, TO YOU ALL FOR, FOR WHAT THE BIG PICTURE EFFECTS HAVE BEEN OF THE PLAN. 
          GOT IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, AND YOU MENTIONED BY POLICE SUBSTATION, AND ON PAGE 13 OF YOU REPORT, I SEE THAT THE AVERAGE TIME ON SCENE FOR THE NORTH SUBSTATION IS 19, UM, 1960, UM, BUT THE LOWEST ONE ON WEST IS 1590. 
          UM, DO YOU, CAN, CAN YOU TELL WHY, WHY THAT IS SO FAR? UM, NO. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, THE WINDOW, THE, THE, THE, THE OPTIMAL WINDOW IS 15 MINUTES. 
          SO, UM, AND THAT'S A RESEARCH BASED NUMBER. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE ACTUALLY WANT THE, THE TREATMENT TO, TO, TO, TO, TO EXIST OR TO LAST FOR ABOUT 15 MINUTES. 
          THE REAL WORLD IS THE REAL WORLD, AND, YOU KNOW, OFFICERS ARE NOT ALWAYS SITTING THERE CHECKING THEIR WATCHES MM-HMM. 
          , UM, YOU KNOW, OR WE WERE RIGHT ON 15 MINUTES TIME TO MARK BACK IN SERVICE, OR THEY GET A CALL OR SOMETHING HAPPENS WHERE THEY CAN'T NECESSARILY MARK OUT, OR THEY'RE DEALING, THEY'RE INTERACTING WITH THIS WITH A CI CITIZEN WHILE THEY'RE THERE. 
          SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          SO, UM, THE 19 MINUTES IS, UM, WHILE, WHILE IT'S NOT 15, IT'S PRETTY CLOSE, AND WE FEEL PRETTY GOOD ABOUT THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          WONDERFUL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS FOR NOW. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH, AND THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHE GARCIA, COUNCIL MEMBER BRAVO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU KNOW, I WAS, UH, I HAD JUST LEANED OVER AND, UH, BROUGHT UP WITH COUNCILMAN MCKEE RODRIGUEZ. 
          HOW, HOW ARE WE GOING TO, HOW ARE WE MERGING OR, UM, UH, WORKING ALONGSIDE THE GOOD NEIGHBOR PROGRAM WITH THIS. 
          AND THEN, ERIC, I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP BECAUSE I THINK I'VE BEEN TALKING A LOT ABOUT THE GOOD NEIGHBOR PROGRAM WITH MY CONSTITUENTS, AND, UH, THEY WELCOME IT. 
          IT CAN'T START SOON ENOUGH. 
          AND, UM, THEY'RE EAGER TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A LOT OF IDEAS OF WHERE CRIME AND NUISANCE HOUSES ARE IN SOME OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS, AND THEY'RE EAGER TO SUBMIT THOSE TO BE PUT ON THE LIST. 
          UM, I CHIEF, I, I APPRECIATE YOU BEING CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC. 
          I SHARE THAT EXACT SAME FEELING RIGHT NOW. 
          UH, ONE QUESTION THAT COMES TO MIND FOR ME IS WHEN WE'RE COMPARING DATA TO LAST YEAR, LAST YEAR WE HAD AN EXTREMELY HOT SUMMER, AND I KNOW THAT WHEN TEMPERATURES RISE, VIOLENT CRIME GOES UP, PEOPLE BECOME MORE AGITATED, MORE IRRITATED, UM, YOU KNOW, AND WE'VE, IT'S BEEN SURPRISINGLY COOL SO FAR THIS YEAR. 
          AND SO I'M WONDERING WHAT THIS DATA'S GONNA LOOK LIKE ONCE WE, ONCE WE GET TO, UH, YOU KNOW, A SERIES OF, OF DAYS THAT ARE OVER A HUNDRED DEGREES AND, UH, YOU KNOW, HOW PEOPLE'S, YOU KNOW, BEHA HOW THAT MIGHT AFFECT BEHAVIOR. 
          SO I'M REALLY, I'M, I'M, YOU KNOW, CAUTIOUS. 
          I, I SINCERELY SHARE YOUR CAUTIOUS OPTIMISM. 
          AND I, I HOPE THAT WE CAN KEEP THOSE NUMBERS THAT KEEP THAT TREND GOING. 
          UM, BUT I, BUT I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SEEING, UM, SOME OF THIS DATA AND WHERE WE TAKE TEMPERATURES INTO CONSIDERATION AND SEE HOW THAT MIGHT BE AFFECTING THIS AS WELL. 
          UM, AND THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          BRAVO. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
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UM, I'D LIKE TO JUST REFER TO A COUPLE OF THE CHARTS OF GRAPHS THAT, THAT YOU HAVE PRESENTED DR. 
          SMITH, UH, THE ONE ON PAGE 16, UH, HOTSPOT RESULTS, PERIOD. 
          ONE, UH, AND I GUESS I COULD SAY THE SAME ABOUT, UH, HOTSPOT THE OTHERS ON THE HOTSPOT RESULTS, THEY DEAL WITH PERCENTAGES. 
          UH, AND I'M HOPEFUL, AND I THINK I HEARD THIS FROM COUNCILMAN ROCHA GARCIA, THAT REAL NUMBERS TELL US WHAT'S GOING ON WITH REAL PEOPLE AND REAL INCIDENCES, RATHER THAN JUST THE PERCENTAGES. 
          DO, SHOULD WE EXPECT TO SEE REAL NUMBERS, UH, WHEN WE SEE YOUR SIX MONTH REPORT? WELL, I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT THERE ARE REAL NUMBERS BEHIND THOSE PERCENTAGES. 
          RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, AND IF YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE, WE'VE GONE BACK AND FORTH, FRANKLY, COUNCIL MEMBER ABOUT WITH, DO WE INCLUDE DATA TABLES OR DO WE NOT, SOMETIMES WE'VE INCLUDED THEM, SOMETIMES WE HAVEN'T MM-HMM. 
          , WHEN WE INCLUDE THEM, PEOPLE GET CONFUSED BY THEM. 
          . 
          UH, SO WE'VE, SO WE'VE NOW WE'VE, WE'RE, WE'RE DOWN TO JUST SHOWING PERCENTAGES. 
          WHEN I'M HEARING FROM YOU NOW IS WHAT YOU WANNA SEE, THE, THE DATA, WE'LL SHOW YOU THE DATA. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, BECAUSE I CAN, I CAN RELATE TO A PERCENTAGE OF, LET'S SAY 16%, THAT MEANS ONE OUT OF EIGHT OR SOMETHING, ONE OUT OF SEVEN. 
          UH, SO IF THERE WERE EIGHT INSTANCES, AND NOW THERE'S ONLY SEVEN, THAT'S A 16% DIFFERENCE, BUT THAT'S ONLY ONE INCIDENT. 
          SURE. 
          NOW, IF YOU HAD A HUNDRED INCIDENCES AND 16 LESS THE NEXT TIME, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE IN NUMBERS THAT PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE PROBLEM. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND SO WE, WE, WHEN WE, WHEN WE, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THIS PARTICULAR GRAPH. 
          NO, THERE'S A, THERE'S A RED NOTE THERE AT THE TOP OF THE, UM, OF THE, OF THE BAR CHART ITSELF. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, THESE PERCENTAGE CHANGES ARE BASED ON VERY LOW INCIDENT NUMBERS. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND SHOULD BE INTERPRETED WITH CAUTION. 
          SO WHENEVER WE'RE DEALING WITH REPORTING RESULTS AS A PERCENTAGE THAT THAT TYPICALLY DEAL WITH SMALL NUMBERS, WE, WE PUT THAT CAVEAT IN THERE. 
          WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH A GRAPH LIKE THAT, THERE'S, THERE'S MANY, UH, DATA POINTS THAT GO THERE. 
          SO THERE'S, YOU, YOU'LL SEE THERE'S NO RED FLAG THERE. 
          SO, UM, WHILE I UNDERSTAND YOUR INTEREST IN, IN SEEING THE RAW DATA BEHIND THE EACH AND EVERY CHART, IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE, WE, WE CAN DO SOME SUMMARY TABLES, I THINK IN THE SIX MONTH AND IN YEAR REPORT FOR YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, THAT, THAT WILL HELP PUT SOME BETTER CONTEXT IN IT FOR YOU. 
          UM, BUT I THINK JUST FOR TODAY, REST ASSURED THAT IF, FOR A GRAPH LIKE THAT, IF THERE'S NOT A, IF THERE'S NOT A ONE OF THOSE RED FLAGS IN IT, IT'S BECAUSE WE'RE CONFIDENT AS SOCIAL SCIENTISTS THAT DEAL WITH DATA ALL THE TIME, THAT THE NUMBERS ARE LARGE ENOUGH THAT WE DON'T NEED TO PUT A, A CAVEAT IN THERE LIKE THAT. 
          RIGHT. 
          WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT, AND I HAVE NO DOUBT IN THE PERCENTAGES THAT YOU'RE FIGURING, UH, I JUST, I, I FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE UNDERSTANDING THE SIZE OF THE, THE PROBLEM BY KNOWING THE NUMBERS. 
          LIKE I SAID, NUMBERS ARE REALLY PEOPLE OR INCIDENTS OR OCCURRENCES SURE. 
          THAT, THAT WE CAN RELATE TO. 
          UH, ALSO, I, I WANTED TO ASK YOU TO EXPLAIN TO ME THE CHART ON, UH, SLIDE 17. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I UNDERSTAND. 
          WELL, THE FIRST PART OF THE CHART TALKS ABOUT TREATMENT GREEN DOTTED LINES, BUT WE WEREN'T REALLY DOING ANYTHING. 
          THERE WASN'T ANY TREATMENT. 
          WHY IS THAT CALLED TREATMENT? AND THOSE NUMBERS ARE SO HIGH COMPARED TO CATCHMENT AT THE SAME TIME WHEN WE REALLY WEREN'T DOING ANY TREATMENT. 
          SO WHY, WHAT ABOUT THOSE NUMBERS? THIS SLIDE, LIKE RIGHT HERE? YES, THAT'S RIGHT. 
          SO THAT'S JUST A LINE GRAPH, RIGHT? THAT PLOTS YOUR INCIDENT COUNTS BY MONTH. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO EACH OF THE SQUARES IS, IS THE MONTH. 
          UM, AND, AND THE NUMBER ABOVE IT, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE THE REAL NUMBERS, RIGHT? MM-HMM. 
          , UM, IS THE COUNT OF THE INCIDENTS IN THAT PARTICULAR MONTH. 
          AND WHAT WAS THE BLUE REPRESENTING? 'CAUSE THE SAME MONTH, LOW COUNTS, RIGHT? SO GREEN ARE YOUR TREATMENT AREAS AND THE BLUE LINE ARE YOUR CATCHMENT AREAS, THOSE AREAS WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET OF YOUR TREATMENT AREAS. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          WELL, HOW COME THE CATCHMENT AREA ISN'T INCLUDING THE TREATMENT AREA? OR WOULD YOU SAY THEY SHOULD GO TOGETHER TO GET A BIG PICTURE? WELL, THE BIG PICTURE IS THE CITYWIDE CHANGE. 
          UM, NO, WE, WE LOOK FOR, WE LOOK FOR CRIME IN THE AREA THAT'S BEING TREATED BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE POLICE CAR IS SITTING, AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE GREEN LINE. 
          AND THEN WE LOOK FOR CRIME WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET AROUND THOSE TREATED AREAS, RIGHT. 
          BECAUSE THAT'S THE NATURAL LOCATION WHERE CRIME MAY MIGRATE IF IT WERE TO BE DISPLACED BECAUSE OF THE TREATMENT. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE DISTINCT, THEY'RE DISTINCT ANALYSES, AND THAT'S WHY THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT LINES ON THE GRAPH. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, JUST FROM MY UNDERSTANDING THEN, IS IT REASONABLE TO SAY THAT WHEN WE HAVE THAT, UH, FIGURE IN AUGUST 31ST, 2022, 
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WITHIN THE THOUSAND FEET AROUND THE TREATMENT AREA, THERE WERE 44 ACTUAL REPORTED INCIDENCES? UM, I GOT A LOOKING AT THAT SAME CHART YOU HAVE UP THERE. 
          YOU'VE GOT 32 NO, NO. 
          IN, NO. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, THAT'S WHY I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          SO, SO THE, THE GREEN LINE IS THE 28 LOCATIONS THAT WE TREATED IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY, 2020. 
          OH, IT'S A COMPILATION OF ALL 28, ALL 28 LOCATIONS, SOME TOGETHER, AND THEN RETROACTIVELY, LOOKING BACK, WHAT HAPPENED IN THOSE 28 PLACES BEFORE WE DID ANYTHING. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IN AUGUST OF 22, THERE WAS 32 INCIDENTS IN THOSE 28 HOTSPOT. 
          OH, I GOT YOU NOW. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THEN, AND, AND THE, AND THE 12 IN THAT AUGUST OF 22 IS A THOUSAND FEET AROUND ALL 28 PLACES, UH, HOTSPOTS. 
          OKAY. 
          DOES THAT HELP? OKAY. 
          IT IT DOES, IT DOES A BIT, YES. 
          UH, ANOTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE, UH, IS ABOUT THE, THE TEAMS THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT THAT ARE GONNA COME TOGETHER AND DO ANALYSIS OR, UH, COME UP WITH SOME SUGGESTIONS. 
          THE WORKING GROUPS, I DIDN'T SEE ANY PUBLIC MENTIONED AS PART OF THESE WORKING GROUPS. 
          AND I KNOW WE ALWAYS RELY ON THE PROFESSIONALS THAT WE HAVE WHO REALLY CAN LOOK AT DATA AND EVALUATE IT. 
          BUT, UH, I'M WONDERING IF THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY OR TO OFFER ABOUT THE DATA AND, UH, THE WORKING GROUP'S RECOMMENDATIONS THAT MAY COME OUT OF THAT. 
          UH, AND I, I JUST THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE A PLACE AT THE TABLE FOR MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY. 
          THEY MAY OR MAY NOT STRUGGLE WITH TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE DATA THAT MAY GET PRESENTED, BUT THEY CAN ALSO GIVE YOU, YOU KNOW, FACTUAL INFORMATION THAT, THAT THEY LIVE THROUGH IN THOSE, IN THOSE COMMUNITIES, IN THOSE AREAS. 
          SO, UH, I WAS SURPRISED NOT TO SEE ANY OF THEM IN THERE. 
          AND I THINK LONG RANGE, AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OR THE FIRST YEAR, BUT ONCE THOSE WORKING GROUPS REALLY START TO EVALUATE WHAT CAN WE DO TO IMPROVE THIS C'S UH, HISTORY WITH, WITH CRIME, IF YOU DON'T INCLUDE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THAT COMMUNITY, IT, THE COMMUNITY'S GONNA BE VERY SKEPTICAL ABOUT WHAT THE CITY MAY COME UP WITH OR WHAT ACADEMICS MAY COME UP WITH. 
          THEY WANNA KNOW THAT YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY TOO. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE, FOR THE COMMENT. 
          IT SORT OF ECHOES WHAT, UH, MAYOR NURNBERG SAID A MINUTE AGO. 
          SO JUST, JUST, UH, TO BE CLEAR, WE DON'T DRIVE THAT STRATEGY, THE WORKING GROUP DRIVE THE, THE, THE MM-HMM. 
          , THE ANALYSIS MM-HMM. 
           AND THE SOLUTIONS MM-HMM. 
          , THAT'S, THAT'S NOT A U T S A ROLE. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT THEY USE YOUR DATA TO HELP THEM. 
          WELL, THEY, NO. 
          THEY USE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S CRIME DATA. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND THEN WHATEVER OTHER DATA THAT THE OTHER CITY AGENCIES BRING TO BEAR MM-HMM. 
          . 
          AND IF THE WORKING GROUPS DECIDE THAT THEY NEED THAT THEY OUGHT TO, FOR THAT PARTICULAR SET OF PROBLEMS, THAT THE COMMUNITY IS AN IMPORTANT VOICE, THEN THEY ARE. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND WE WOULD ENCOURAGE THEM, UM, TO GO AND, AND SPEAK WITH THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO WE ARE, WE'RE NOT, UM, WE'RE AGNOSTIC ON THAT. 
          WE DON'T, OKAY. 
          WE DON'T ADVOCATE THAT THEY DO THAT, NOR DO WE SUGGEST THAT THEY SHOULDN'T DO THAT. 
          UM, IT'S REALLY WITHIN THEIR PURVIEW, UM, TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT IT'S RELEVANT GIVEN THIS PARTICULAR PLACE THAT THEY'RE, THAT THEY'RE ADDRESSING. 
          OKAY. 
          I APPRECIATE CLARIFYING THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT, UM, THAT, THAT'S, UM, AND, AND THAT'S THE SECOND OR THIRD TIME COUNCILOR MEMBERS HAVE BROUGHT THAT UP. 
          WE'LL, WE'LL FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THAT AND INCORPORATE THAT COMMUNITY ELEMENT, UH, AS WE MOVE FURTHER DOWN THE LINE. 
          SO I, I'M, I'M CERTAINLY HEARING THAT AS A TAKEAWAY, UH, FROM THE COUNCIL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER CASTILLO. 
          THANK YOU, MARIN. 
          THANK Y'ALL FOR THE PRESENTATION. 
          UH, AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN, UH, INEQUITIES AND VIOLENCE AS WELL ESTABLISHED IN LITERATURE AND THE DATA, AND I APPRECIATE MIKE STATING THAT PHASE ONE OF HOTSPOT POLICING ISN'T GOING TO CHANGE THOSE UNDERLYING CONDITIONS. 
          UM, FOR TOO MANY COMMUNITIES, PARTICULARLY IN DISTRICT FIVE, UH, I'VE BEEN, UH, BRIEFED BY STEVEN HUERTA THAT I REPRESENT THE CITY'S HIGHEST CONCENTRATION OF FORMERLY INCARCERATED INDIVIDUALS. 
          UM, FOR TOO LONG, OUR COMMUNITIES HAVE DEALT WITH, UM, EFFICIENT INVESTMENT AND EDUCATION, QUALITY HOUSING, JOB FORCE TRAINING. 
          UM, AND THE ROLE OF US HERE IS TO ENSURE, I BELIEVE THAT WE INTRODUCE METHODS TO REDUCE THE DESPERATION TO COMMIT CRIME. 
          RIGHT. 
          UH, THAT'S THE GOAL HERE. 
          UM, SO I, I, I'M EAGER TO GET TO THE LAST FEW PHASES OF HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH, UH, THE CROSSDISCIPLINARY, UH, DEPARTMENTS TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING THAT NEED. 
          AND I'M PLEASED TO HEAR THAT METRO HEALTH IS GOING TO BE PART OF THIS CONVERSATION, BECAUSE WHEN WE LOOK AT PROGRAMS LIKE SA STANDUP, IT'S, THEY, THEY'VE DEMONSTRATED, AND I KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE PROVIDING A BRIEFING SOON, THEY'VE 
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DRASTICALLY IMPACTED VIOLENT CRIME THAT HAPPENS WITHIN COMMUNITIES, UM, THAT THEY'RE ASSIGNED TO. 
          RIGHT? THERE'S MODELS IN CHICAGO CALLED FLIP, AND THEY'VE DECREASED VIOLENT CRIME, AND IT'S EFFECTIVE, AND IT'S ECONOMICALLY AND FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE TO THE FOLKS THAT WE REPRESENT IN THAT, UM, THEY ARE A AFFORDABLE WAY TO ATTACK PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, IN CITIES ACROSS THE NATION. 
          SO, PLEASE, AGAIN, TO HEAR THAT PIECE. 
          AND WITH THE DENSITY PIECE, I, I KNOW MANY OF THE HOTSPOTS WERE APARTMENTS AND, UH, PARKING LOTS FOR MALLS. 
          UM, A A A WORRY THAT I HAVE IN THE COMMUNICATION OF THAT, AND IT IS WHAT IT IS, RIGHT? UH, IS THE, THE STIGMA THAT IT ATTACHES TO RENTERS. 
          AND I THINK SHIFTING THE LANGUAGE TO HIGHLIGHT THE DENSITY IN THE AREA, UM, CAN, CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. 
          UH, EVERY TIME WE HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT A REZONING TO BUILD MULTI-FAMILY APARTMENT COMPLEXES, UH, THERE'S A HUGE PUSHBACK BECAUSE OF THAT STIGMA THAT, THAT RENTAL RENTERS ARE, ARE CRIMINAL. 
          UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WANNA CAUTION US AS WE NAVIGATE THESE CONVERSATIONS. 
          UH, A QUESTION THAT I DO HAVE IS, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE RANK AND FILE OFFICERS TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK IN THE AREAS THAT THEY ARE DOING THE 15 MINUTE HOTSPOTS, OR DO THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DEBRIEF ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE SEEING? UH, WHILE THEY'RE OUT THERE FOR 15 MINUTES? COUNCIL MEMBER? THE HOTSPOTS, UH, IDENTIFIED ARE NOT BASED ON OFFICER FEEDBACK. 
          THEY'RE BASED ON DATA PULLED OUT OF THE CAD. 
          MY QUESTION WAS, THE OFFICERS WHO ARE ASSIGNED TO THE HOTSPOTS, IS THERE OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON WHAT THEY'RE OBSERVING WHILE, WHILE OUT THERE FOR THOSE 15 MINUTES, THERE IS OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK, FEEDBACK TO THEIR IMMEDIATE SUPERVISOR? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND DO THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH, UH, THE ACADEMICS WORKING ON THIS PROJECT? NO. 
          NO. 
          OKAY. 
          THE, THE, THE, THE SAFE SERGEANTS AND THE CAPTAINS, UH, MEET WITH THE, UH, DR. 
          SMITH'S TEAM. 
          MATTER OF FACT, THEY MET WITH HIM, UH, YESTERDAY, SO THEY MEET WITH THEM ON A REGULAR BASIS. 
          I, I THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL MOVING FORWARD ON THE BRIEFINGS IF A SERGEANT COULD BE HERE TO SHARE WHAT THEY'RE SEEING OUT ON THE GROUND. 
          RIGHT. 
          UH, AND I'LL USE AN EXAMPLE, AND, UH, YOUR TEAM WAS PRESENT, RIGHT? WE HAD A STRING OF, UM, ROBBERIES REGARDING COPPER, RIGHT. 
          AND THE OFFICER HAD AN OPPORTUNITY, WE ARE ALL TOGETHER, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE ISSUE, AND THEY OBSERVED, YOU KNOW, THERE AREN'T LIGHTS BEHIND THE BUILDING. 
          THERE'S AN OPEN GATE. 
          UM, THERE'S NOT LOCKS IN THE APPROPRIATE PLACE. 
          AND THOSE PIECES HELPED REDUCE, UM, THE, THE, THE CRIME THAT WAS OCCURRING IN THE AREA. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND IT WAS THE OFFICER PROVIDING THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          UH, AND, AND I WANNA BE SURE THAT THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO SHARE WITH THEIR IDENTIFYING IN THE COMMUNITY, UM, THAT MAY PROVIDE OPPORTUNITY, RIGHT. 
          FOR CRIME. 
          SO I, I, I APPRECIATED THAT FACILITATION OF THAT CONVERSATION, AND I THINK MOVING FORWARD IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THAT LINE OF COMMUNICATION WITH THE, THE RANK AND FILE AND THE FOLKS, UM, PRESENTING THE DATA. 
          UM, WHEN LOOKING AT SLIDE FIVE IN PARTICULAR, IT SHOWS THAT THERE'S AN, IN, THAT'S SLIDE FOUR, THAT THERE'S AN INCREASE IN HOMICIDE AND SHOWS THAT WEAPON LAW VIOLATIONS WENT DOWN. 
          IS IT FAIR TO PRESUME THAT THAT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH STATE LAW AND OPEN CARRY LAWS? I'M SORRY, I THOUGHT THIS WAS GONNA BE FOR CAPTAIN FOR DR. 
          SMITH. 
          SAY THAT AGAIN, PLEASE? YES. 
          SO, UM, THE, THE SLIDE SHOWS THAT THERE'S BEEN A INCREASE IN HOMICIDES, BUT A DECREASE IN LAWS, UH, REGARDING GUNS. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, IS IT FAIR TO PRESUME THAT THAT'S REGARDING STATE LAW INCREASE IN, I DIDN'T CATCH THE SECOND PART. 
          INCREASE IN WHAT THERE'S BEEN AN INCREASE IN HOMICIDES. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          WELL, I DIDN'T CATCH THE SECOND PART. 
          YES. 
          SO IS IT FAIR TO PRESUME THAT STATE LAW HAS IMPACT THE, THE DECREASE IN, IN, UM, THE, THE USE OF WEAPONS? I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          UH, I WOULD, I WOULD SAY NO, BUT I DON'T, I CAN'T SAY THAT FOR SURE. 
          I'M SPECULATING. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I, AND I GUESS MY QUESTION FOR ERIC AND MARIA, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE FOLLOWING PHASES, UM, AND, AND THE SOLUTIONS THAT ARE GOING TO BE PROPOSED BY, UM, THE, THE GROUP OR COMMITTEE, ARE WE LOOKING TO SCALE UP STANDUP SA UH, I KNOW WE'RE SET TO HAVE A BRIEFING ON THEIR IMPACT, UM, BUT I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHILE THIS IS MOVING FORWARD TO PROVIDE INVESTMENT AND SUPPORT TO RUN PARALLEL, UM, WOULD BE VERY IMPACTFUL TO OUR COMMUNITIES. 
          IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, UH, YOU ALL ARE CONSIDERING OR HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH METRO HEALTH ABOUT? UM, NO SPECIFIC CONVERSATIONS, AND I DON'T, I THINK IT'S TO BE DETERMINED THAT THERE MAY BE, THERE MAY BE CODE RELATED ISSUES. 
          THERE MAY BE STREET LIGHTING, IT MAY BE, UH, STANDUP ESSAY RESOURCES. 
          IT COULD BE AN ADDITIONAL PROSECUTOR IN THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. 
          UM, BUT I THINK IT'S PROBABLY TOO EARLY TO SAY THAT IT'S JUST ONE OR THE OTHER. 
          BUT I, I THINK IT'S ALSO, YOU KNOW, A FUNCTION OF, 
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OF REORIENTING THE, THE RESOURCES SO THAT WE'RE ALL ROWING IN THE SAME DIRECTION. 
          I THINK IT'S PROBABLY INCUMBENT ON US TO BE EFFICIENT IN THAT STANDPOINT. 
          UM, BUT I, I THINK, UH, I THINK EVERYTHING'S ON THE TABLE TO INCLUDE REDIRECTING PEOPLE AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE VERY FOCUSED ON POTENTIAL HOTSPOTS OR AREAS WHERE, UH, SPECIFIC THINGS LIKE YOUR LIGHTING EXAMPLE. 
          UM, SOMETIMES IT'S AN EASY MATTER THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY REQUIRE A WHOLE BUNCH OF RESOURCES. 
          AND I THINK IT'S PROBABLY FAIR TO SAY THAT WE'LL NEED TO GO THROUGH THAT PART. 
          AND, AND ON 13 OF THE SECOND PHASE OF THE STUDY, UM, FOR THE FIDELITY ANALYSIS, CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND, WERE FOR TABLE ONE WHERE IT HAS THE, THE SUBSTATIONS, RIGHT? IT'S A SUBSTATION ANALYSIS. 
          AND FOR EXAMPLE, UH, NORTH, WHICH SAW AN INCREASE IN CRIME, IT SAYS, AVERAGE TIME ON SCENE WAS 19 MINUTES AND 60 SECONDS WAS THAT AVERAGE TIME ON SCENE AT A CALL OR AVERAGE TIME ON SCENE AT THE HOTSPOT? DURING THE TREATMENT AT THE HOTSPOT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN ANOTHER EXAMPLE, ISRU ALSO SAW AN INCREASE IN CRIME, AND THEIR AVERAGE TIME ON SCENE WAS 19 MINUTES AND 19 SECONDS. 
          SO I GUESS I HAVE QUESTIONS AROUND THE LONGER AT THE HOTSPOT, THE HIGHER THE VIOLENT CRIME WHEN WE LOOK AT EACH SUBSTATION, IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH. 
          SO AGAIN, THE, THE, UM, THE OPTIMAL PERIOD IS 15 MINUTES. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , UM, 19 MINUTES IS PRETTY CLOSE. 
          UM, THE, THE PURPOSE OF THAT, UH, ANALYSIS IS TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT OFFICERS ARE DEPLOYING IN, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TREATMENT SCHEDULE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , BECAUSE AT THE, AT THE BEGINNING OF EVERY PERIOD, UM, WE SEND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT A SET OF RECOMMENDED HOTSPOTS FOR THAT PERIOD. 
          MM-HMM. 
           AND, AND THEN A TEMPORAL ANALYSIS THAT WE DO THAT SAYS, HERE'S THE SPIKES IN CRIME AT THESE INDIVIDUAL PLACES BY TIME AND BY DAY OF THE WEEK. 
          AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THEN DE DESIGNS A SCHEDULE AROUND THAT, THAT TIME. 
          AND THEN THEY PUT OFFICERS THERE. 
          SO WE'RE JUST CHECKING TO SEE WHERE, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE TIME WERE OFFICERS AT A HOTSPOT WITHIN A, WITHIN A SUBSTATION. 
          I THINK THE COUNCILWOMAN IS ASKING, IS THERE A CORRELATION ON TIME ON THE HOTSPOT WITH CRIME CHANGE? AND THE ANSWER IS NO. 
          THAT, THAT, THAT'S NOT THE PURPOSE. 
          THAT'S WHAT I'M WAS TRYING TO GET TO. 
          IT'S NOT THE PURPOSE OF THAT ANALYSIS AT ALL. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , THAT PURPOSE IS JUST TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THE OFFICERS WE'RE COMPLYING WITH THE TREATMENT SCHEDULE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO THE AVERAGE TIME ON SCENE IS THE AVERAGE TIME AT THE HOTSPOT? YES. 
          AND IF I'M LOOKING AT PAGE 13 OF THE STUDY, UM, SOME OF THE HOTSPOTS WITH THE HIGHEST TIME, 19 MINUTES AND 60 SECONDS, 19 MINUTES AND 19 SECONDS, IF WE LOOK AT THE SUBSTATION, THEY ACTUALLY SAW AN INCREASE IN CRIME. 
          IS, IS THAT CORRECT? I'M LOOKING AT THE SUBSTATION ALANIS ANALYSIS. 
          PERU AND NORTH SAW AN INCREASE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I'M LOOKING AT THE AVERAGE TIME ON SCENE, UH, WAS HIGHER THAN THOSE THAT SAW A DECREASE IN CRIME. 
          SO IF, ARE YOU ASKING IF THERE'S, IF THAT'S A CORRELATION? YES. 
          I'M ASKING IF MORE TIME ON THE SCENE. 
          UH, FOR THE 15, THE LONGER AT THE HOTSPOT, THE MORE VIOLENT CRIME AROUND THE AREA. 
          'CAUSE LOOKING AT THE SUBSTATION ANALYSIS, THE LONGER AN OFFICER WAS AT THE HOT SPOT, I WOULD NOT DRAW THAT CONCLUSION FROM THAT GRAPH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY THE SUBSTATIONS THAT HAD OFFICERS AT HOTSPOTS THE LONGEST SAW AN INCREASE IN CRIME? UH, BECAUSE I COULD SHOW YOU ANOTHER SET OF DATA IN THE NEXT PERIOD THAT MAY SHOW YOU THE EXACT SAME, THE EXACT OPPOSITE PATTERN. 
          THERE'S NO CORRELATION THERE. 
          AND IT'S NOT THAT THE ANALYSIS IS NOT A CORRELATION, IT'S SIMPLY, IT SIMPLY DID, DID THE OFFICER, WERE THE OFFICERS THERE WHEN WE WANTED THEM TO BE THERE? THAT'S MY, MY UNDERSTANDING OF HOTSPOT POLICING IS THAT IT WOULD REDUCE CRIME. 
          BUT THE DATA SO FAR, I UNDERSTAND BEING CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMIST, OPTIMISTIC, IT DOESN'T INCREASE CRIME, MA'AM, THE LONGER THE OFFICER'S AT THE HOTSPOT, THE SUBSTATION SIGN, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S AN INCORRECT WAY TO READ THAT GRAPH. 
          IT'S PAGE 13 OF YOUR STUDY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NO, I'M SORRY. 
          YOU'RE WRONG. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER CASTILLO. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER MCKEE RODRIGUEZ. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. 
          UH, ONE POINT BEFORE I FORGET, I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THE RED TEXT SAYING TO INTERPRET WITH CAUTION, UH, BECAUSE OF THE LIMITED, UH, THE FEW NUMBER OF, UH, INCIDENTS. 
          UH, BUT I THINK WHAT YOU'LL FIND FROM A FEW OF US ON COUNCIL IS THAT, UH, WE'RE INTERESTED IN SEEING THE RAW DATA AND NUMBERS OR A DIFFERENT, OR A DIFFERENT ME, UH, METHOD OF ILLUSTRATING THE DATA FOR FUTURE PRESENTATIONS. 
          AND SO I'D LIKE TO ECHO THAT SENTIMENT, UH, FROM COUNCILMAN COURAGE. 
          UM, I'D ALSO LIKE TO ADD TO COUNCILMAN CASTILLO'S POINT, I BELIEVE THERE'S ENOUGH DATA, UH, ELSEWHERE TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT UNMITIGATED ACCESS TO FIREARMS DUE TO STATE LAW HAS AN IMPACT ON OUR CRIME RATE. 
          AND I'D IMAGINE THAT'S THE CASE. 
          AND I KNOW THAT EVERY TIME A A SHOOTING HAPPENS OR SOMETHING HAPPENS, IT'S WHAT IS CITY COUNCIL DOING ABOUT THIS? AND I KNOW 
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THAT WE'RE MOST LIKELY THE MOST ACCESSIBLE ELECTED OFFICIALS, UM, FOR BOTH MEDIA AND CONSTITUENTS, BUT WE'RE GONNA NEED TO WORK WITH OTHER LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT, QUITE FRANKLY. 
          AND WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO START HOLDING EVERYONE ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE RISE IN CRIME, NOT JUST MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT, UM, TO THE STUDY, UH, COMPARING THE SAME 60 DAY WINDOWS BETWEEN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY, UH, OR MARCH AND APRIL, BETWEEN THIS YEAR AND LAST YEAR. 
          IT SEEMS SIMPLE. 
          IT ALSO LOOKS LIKE, UH, THE OTHER MONTHS OF LOWER CRIME ACCORDING TO THE GRAPHS ON SLIDE 17 AND 20. 
          SO I'M A LITTLE SKEPTICAL OF COMPARING THESE PERIODS TO A FULL 12 MONTH PERIOD. 
          UM, SO CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH, OR I GUESS ANSWER IF I'M RIGHT ABOUT HOW YOU WOULD DO THAT? MY VERY EARLY AND SIMPLEST ASSUMPTION IS THAT YOU TAKE THE INCIDENTS THAT OCCURRED OVER THE LAST 12 MONTH PERIOD DIVIDED BY 365 TO CREATE A DAILY AVERAGE, AND THEN MULTIPLY THAT BY 60. 
          IT'S ACTUALLY A MONTHLY AVERAGE, BUT YOU'RE CLOSE YEAH. 
          TO, SO IT CREATES AN AVERAGE 60 DAY PERIOD. 
          RIGHT? SO YEAH, WE SHOW IT TWO WAYS. 
          UM, ONE IS THE AVERAGE MONTHLY COUNT OF CRIME DURING THE TREATMENT PERIOD COMPARED TO THE AVERAGE MONTHLY CRIME OVER, OVER A 12 MONTH PERIOD, ONE WAY, OR COMPARED TO THE SAME, THOSE SAME TWO MONTHS, THE PREVIOUS, THE PREVIOUS YEAR. 
          AND THEN, I GUESS FOR THESE, FOR THESE PARTICULAR REPORTS, I GUESS MY POINT FOR THAT ONE IS THAT IF CRIME IS HIGHER AT OTHER POINTS OF THE YEAR, I THINK IT SKEWS OUR DATA WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO OF THE PERIOD, TWO OF THE, UH, PERIODS OF THE YEAR THAT HAVE LOWER INSTANCES, INSTANCES OF CRIME. 
          SO I, THAT'S WHY WE SHOW IT BOTH WAYS. 
          , I PLEASE DON'T BE DEFENSIVE. 
          I'M ASKING QUESTIONS AS, AS THIS IS MY DUTY. 
          NO, NOT AT ALL. 
          THAT, BUT THAT TRULY IS. 
          WE, WE, WE, I THINK BOTH LENSES ARE INSTRUCTIVE, UM, IN TERMS OF GETTING THE BIG PICTURE. 
          AND SO, UH, I'M ALSO INTERESTED IN, UH, AND MAYBE THIS QUESTION'S NOT FOR YOU. 
          I'M INTERESTED IN ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THESE AREAS DURING THIS PERIOD AS WELL. 
          SO I'D BE INTERESTED IN SEEING, UH, THE DATA FOR NUMBER OF CALLS FOR SERVICE DURING THESE PERIODS, AND WHETHER THOSE INCREASED OR DECREASED, UM, OR THE NUMBER OF ARRESTS AND CITATIONS ISSUED IN THESE AREA, UH, UH, ASSOCIATED WITH THESE AREAS, AND SEEING HOW THAT DATA COMPARES FROM PERIOD TO PERIOD. 
          AND I ALSO IMAGINED THAT THAT INFORMATION WITHIN THAT INFORMATION LIES, UH, SOME VERY IMPORTANT CONVERSATIONS. 
          UH, AND I'D BE EXCITED TO DO THAT, IF IS THAT POSSIBLE? SO IN THE, IN THE NEXT PERIOD REPORT, YOU'RE, OR THE, THE MAJOR SIX MONTH REPORT YOU'RE GONNA GET, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL SHOW, WE'LL REPORT OUT, UM, ARREST AND CALLS FOR SERVICE DATA, AND WE'LL DO THAT AT THE, UM, I'M SORRY, SIX MONTH AT THE SIX MONTH PERIOD. 
          AND WE'LL DO IT AT THE, AT THE CITYWIDE LEVEL AND AT THE SUBSTATION LEVEL. 
          UM, WE, WE DON'T REPORT OUT, UM, IN A REPORT ANYWAY. 
          WE DON'T REPORT OUT INDIVIDUAL CHANGES AT INDIVIDUAL HOTSPOTS, JUST BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S A VERY, IT'S ONEROUS TO DO THAT AND, AND TEDIOUS TO SHOW. 
          SO THIS IS A REPORT. 
          IT'S, UM, UM, WE TRY TO STRIKE THE BALANCE BETWEEN NOT GIVING YOU ENOUGH IN NOT, NOT GIVING THE PUBLIC ENOUGH INFORMATION AND, AND THE WORKLOAD THAT'S REQUIRED FOR US TO PRODUCE THESE VOLUMINOUS REPORTS EVERY 60 DAYS. 
          SO A LOT OF THE ANALYSIS THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN DOWN AT THE, TO THE HOTSPOT LEVEL, UM, IT'S, IT'S FEASIBLE TO DO THAT. 
          UM, IF WE HAD A TEAM THAT WAS TWICE AS LARGE AS THE ONE WE HAVE, UM, TO DO, TO DO THOSE ANALYSES AND TO REPORT 'EM, 'EM OUT, AND THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT. 
          UM, I'LL, I'LL GO BACK TO MY ORIGINAL LINE OF QUESTIONING. 
          AND I THINK I'M ALSO JUST A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED AT THE PACE OF THIS PLAN. 
          UM, I, I'LL SAY ONE THING, IT'S GOING TO BE NECESSARY TO SEE HOW CRIME COMPARES DURING THE MONTHS WHERE CRIME IS HISTORICALLY MORE PREVALENT. 
          AND SO THE NEXT FEW MONTHS ARE GONNA BE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. 
          UH, AND BASED ON THESE TABLES, I'D GUESS THAT THAT'S BETWEEN MAY AND OCTOBER. 
          SO THOSE ARE GONNA BE THE PERIODS THAT WE SEE. 
          SURE. 
          I THINK THE MOST DATA THAT'S GONNA BE THE MOST, UH, I DON'T KNOW. 
          UM, BUT ONCE WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION, I'M THINKING OUR CONVERSATION IS GONNA BE MORE THOROUGHLY INFORMED. 
          AND SO THAT PART OF THE PACING DOESN'T CONCERN ME. 
          UH, I'M EXCITED FOR THAT. 
          I'M INTERESTED IN THE CONVERSATION. 
          BUT WHAT DOES CONCERN ME IS THAT WE ALREADY SEE LOCATIONS THAT ARE, AND THIS GOES TO THE CITY, IT'S NOT YOU. 
          UH, WE ALREADY SEE LOCATIONS THAT ARE REPEATING, AND WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE HOTSPOTS LIKELY PLAGUED BY A NUMBER OF SYSTEMIC ISSUES, UM, THAT WE'VE LISTED A NUMBER OF TIMES, AND WE'RE GOING TO NEED, NEED TO ADDRESS THOSE SOONER THAN LATER. 
          SO I, I'M NOT NECESSARILY PLEASED TO SEE US WAITING UNTIL JANUARY OF NEXT YEAR TO BEGIN PHASE TWO. 
          UM, LAST BUDGET CYCLE, WE APPROVED A CRIME AND RECIDIVISM COORDINATOR, AND I'M INTERESTED IN SEEING WHAT THEIR ROLE WILL BE IN, UH, THE PHASE TWO PLANNING AND IMPLEMENT IMPLEMENTATION. 
          AND SO MAYBE AFTER I'M DONE WITH, UH, MY COMMENTS, I CAN GET THAT ANSWER. 
          UM, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE KNOW THAT WORK TO, TO OUR CRIME, SUCH AS HOME REHAB, STREET LIGHTING, AND ACCESS TO TRANSPORTATION, EDUCATION AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY. 
          AND WE HAVE TOOLS AT THE CITY THAT CAN ADDRESS 
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ALL OF THOSE NEEDS, UH, IN HOT SPOTS. 
          AND IT'S DISAPPOINTING THAT WE AREN'T YET TALKING ABOUT THOSE IN THE CONTEXT OF THIS PLAN SOONER THAN NEXT YEAR. 
          AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I AM, I'M INTERESTED IN HAVING THAT CONVERSATION QUICKER. 
          I'M ALSO LOOKING AT A, A TIP SHEET FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE ON FOCUSED DETERRENT. 
          AND THEY STATE THAT THE BEST PRACTICES INCLUDE ONE, UH, CAREFUL, THOUGHTFUL, CAREFUL, AND THOUGHTFUL SELECTION OF A STRATEGIC CRIME PROBLEM OR AREA CHECK, UH, COORDINATION WITH EVERY APPLICABLE, UH, SO SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCY, COMMUNITY LEADERS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT PARTNERS TO ENSURE ALL RESOURCES ARE ENGAGED, UM, AND CONTINUOUS FOLLOW UP OVER THE LONG TERM TO ENSURE THE CRIME REDUCTION GAINS ARE SUSTAINED. 
          AND SO, AS WE DISCUSSED PHASE TWO AND THREE, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK I SAY ALL THAT TO SAY THAT THIS WILL NOT BE A ONE YEAR, TWO YEAR, OR FIVE YEAR PROJECT. 
          EACH LOCATION IS GONNA LIKELY NEED YEARS AND YEARS OF MONITORING, INTERVENTION, AND SUPPORT FROM BOTH INTERNAL AND OR EXTERNAL ORGANIZATIONS. 
          AND I HAVE, UH, I'LL SAY THAT I DO HAVE FAITH THAT SS A P D ARE, ARE MORE THAN CAPABLE OF SITE SELECTING AND COORDINATING WITH VARIOUS STAKEHOLDERS. 
          BUT, BUT, AND THIS GOES BACK TO THE CAPACITY AND HAVING A TEAM THAT'S DOUBLE THE SIZES. 
          I DON'T BELIEVE THEY HAVE THE CAPACITY TO PLAY THEIR ROLE AND HAVE THE CAPACITY TO DO THE LEVEL OF STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT AND FOLLOW THROUGH THAT NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE FOR SUSTAINED PERIODS OF TIME. 
          UM, ALSO TO BE NOTED ARE THE PROPERTY CRIME RATES WHERE WE NEED TO MAKE GAINS IN PREVENTING AND WILL LIKELY NEED A LEVEL OF INNOVATION THAT I DON'T, THIS PLAN OBVIOUSLY IS NOT GEARED TO THAT. 
          AND SO WHEN WE HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, I, I THINK THIS IS WHERE, UM, I BELIEVE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR AN OFFICE OF CRIME AND RECIDIVISM PREVENTION, UM, IN MAKING LARGER SUSTAINED SYSTEMIC CHANGE THAT'S COMPLETELY COMPATIBLE WITH PHASE TWO IN THREE OF THIS PLAN. 
          AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS OF PUBLIC SAFETY ABOUT WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE, UM, AND EVENTUALLY WITH FULL COUNSEL. 
          BUT I, I GUESS WHAT I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SEEING IS WHAT ROLE WILL THE CRIME AND RECIDIVISM PRO, UH, PREVENTION COORDINATOR, PLAY COORDINATOR PLAY IN PHASE ONE, TWO, AND THREE? AND HAVE, WE HIRED SOMEONE? SO COUNCILMAN THE, UH, POSITION THAT WAS SET IN THE BUDGET WILL BE PART OF THE WORK GROUP THAT WILL BE LOOKING AT PHASE, UH, TWO. 
          AND WE, UH, THAT INDIVIDUAL WILL BE COORDINATING THE DATA, NOT ONLY OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT ALSO 3 1 1 CODE A C S NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOUSING SERVICES, HUMAN SERVICES FOR THOSE SPECIFIC AREAS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED AS PART OF PHASE TWO. 
          AND, UM, YOU SAW THE TIMELINE ON THE LAST SLIDE OF THE PRESENTATION. 
          UM, U T S A WILL COMPLETE THIS FIRST SIX MONTHS IN JUNE, AND THEN THE MONTH OF JULY, THAT'S WHEN WE START GATHERING ALL THE DATA AND THAT MORE COMPREHENSIVE REPORT THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE REST AND CALLS FOR SERVICE, ET CETERA. 
          SO, UM, WE WILL BE, IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, SO THAT WORK WILL BE DONE IN AUGUST. 
          SO THAT POSITION WILL BE PART OF THAT ANALYSIS OF THE DATA. 
          AND THEN WE BRING THE DEPARTMENTS IN IN SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER. 
          SO WE'LL BE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT BEGINNING THE SOLUTIONS, THE GENERATION OF SOLUTIONS IN NOVEMBER, DECEMBER. 
          I KNOW YOU INDICATED YOU THINK WE SHOULDN'T WAIT UNTIL JANUARY TO IMPLEMENT THE SOLUTIONS, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT WILL BE HAPPENING PRIOR TO THAT WILL INFORM THOSE SOLUTIONS, NOT ONLY WITH THIS DATA, BUT ALSO THE DEPARTMENTS, THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS' DATA. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND I, I THINK EVERY SINGLE SITE AND EVERY, UH, SOLUTION IS LIKELY GONNA HAVE SOME, UH, FISCAL IMPACT AND IT CAN GET VERY EXPENSIVE VERY QUICKLY. 
          AND SO WHAT I'D BE INTERESTED IN IS, UM, SOMEONE WHO MAYBE IS RESEARCHING GRANTS, UH, GRANTS THAT WE DON'T ALREADY HAVE ACCESS TO. 
          UM, AND ONE THAT COMES TO MIND IS A BETTER BLOCKS THAT DOES PLACE-BASED, UH, OR CRIME PREVENTION THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN. 
          THERE'S GRANTS THAT WE'RE NOT YET PARTICIPATING IN THAT PLAY A ROLE IN CRIME PREVENTION THAT COULD BE, UH, CONNECTED TO VARIOUS CITY DEPARTMENTS AND CAN MAKE IT SO THAT, UH, WE CAN TACKLE MORE AREAS THAT AND MORE TIMES. 
          AND SO I THINK WE'RE GONNA NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE. 
          SURE. 
          AND, AND LET ME TELL YOU THAT WHEN WE START THE WORK OF ANALYZING THE PROBLEMS AND, AND COMING UP WITH SOLUTIONS, COUPLE OF THINGS. 
          ONE, UM, YOU MAY RECALL DURING THE ARPA UPDATE, UH, THE COUNCIL APPROVED ABOUT 3.4 MILLION TO BE SET ASIDE FOR COMMUNITY, UM, SAFETY SOLUTIONS. 
          SO THAT WE WILL HAVE THAT SEED MONEY, IF YOU WILL, TO START IMPLEMENTING THOSE RIGHT AWAY. 
          UH, BUT YOUR POINT, WE'LL ALSO BE LOOKING AT OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THROUGH, UM, FEDERAL GRANTS AND, AND, UH, TO SEE WHAT ELSE WE CAN DO OUT THERE. 
          BUT WE'LL HAVE THAT MONEY SET ASIDE TO START RIGHT AWAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND I DOES THE THANK YOU ACCOUNTS MEMBER, DOES THAT COUNT TOWARDS, DOES IT HAVE TO BE USED BY 2026 OR DOES EARMARKING IT FOR THIS SPECIFIC, UH, PROGRAM SATISFY GENERAL FUND MONEY? OH, OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER MCKEE RODRIGUEZ, 
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LET ME INTERJECT JUST A, A COUPLE COMMENTS FOR CONTEXT. 
          UM, AGAIN, WHEN I LOOK AT THIS REPORT, THIS IS A SNAPSHOT OF AN ORGANIZATION ALREADY IN MOTION. 
          AND THE ONLY VARIABLE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THIS DATA IS THE MOVEMENT OF POLICING RESOURCES TO FOCUS ON PARTICULAR HOTSPOTS. 
          THAT'S THE ONLY THING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE. 
          BUT AS WE GET TO PHASE TWO, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT UPSTREAM CAUSES AND TRYING TO ANALYZE WHAT THOSE CAUSES OF THE CRIME ARE, I THINK IT WOULD BE A MISTAKE FOR US TO THINK THAT ALL OF THAT WORK STARTS NOW. 
          IN FACT, UM, AS OUR EQUITY APPROACH HAS GONE FROM AN EQUITY LENS TO NOW AN EQUITY ATLAS, AND EVERY DEPARTMENT IS PUSHING OUT INFORMATION RELATED TO HOW WE CAN ACHIEVE OUTCOMES BASED ON SOCIAL VULNERABILITY INDEX, I'M JUST GONNA PUT IT OUT THERE. 
          I BELIEVE THAT A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE GONNA FIND IN THE ANALYSIS AND PHASE TWO RELATES TO OUR SOCIAL VULNERABILITY MEASURES, THINGS THAT WE'RE ALREADY SUPPOSED TO BE INTUITIVELY WORKING TOWARDS IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          WHAT I'M HOPING TO ACHIEVE OUT OF PHASE TWO IS UNDERSCORING THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING WELL AND PERHAPS HELPING US STEER, UH, ADDITIONAL EFFORT IN THOSE AREAS AND MAYBE UNCOVERING SOME THINGS THAT WE THOUGHT, UH, INTUITIVELY MAY BE DRIVING POOR OUTCOMES, BUT ARE IN FACT NOT ACTUALLY DOING SO. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THIS IS A SNAPSHOT. 
          WE'VE GOT A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS TO ACHIEVE BETTER OUTCOMES RELATED TO REDUCTION IN CRIME. 
          THIS APPROACH IN PHASE TWO IS GONNA HELP US INFORM WHAT GOES ON IN FURTHER, UH, REDUCTION STRATEGIES RELATED TO ALL OF THE PHASES AND WHAT WE'RE DOING CURRENTLY IN THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS. 
          UM, WE'LL CONTINUE NOW WITH, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER VRAN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          PUBLIC SAFETY IS A PRIORITY IN MY DISTRICT. 
          I WANNA ENSURE THAT MY RESIDENTS ARE SAFE IN THEIR HOMES SPOT HOTSPOT INITIATIVES ARE WORKING. 
          IT IS WORKING, BUT I THINK THAT WE CAN GET BETTER AT IT WHEN WE HAVE INCREASED STAFFING AT THE SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT SPECIFICALLY IN PATROL. 
          UM, SO WITH THAT SAID, I DO WANNA GO BACK TO THE SLIDE, UH, 15 BECAUSE I JUST WANT THIS CLEARED UP. 
          SO THIS IS AVERAGE TIME AN OFFICER IS ON SCENE FOR A VIOLENT CRIME ON NO, A VIOLENT CRIME, NON-FAMILY VIOLENCE, OR NO. 
          OKAY. 
          THIS IS NOT A RESPONSE TO A CALL FOR SERVICE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WHAT IS THIS A RESPONSE TO? IT'S SIMPLY, IT'S, IT'S A RES, IT'S A GRAPH ON WHETHER THE OFFICERS ARE DEPLOYED AT THE HOTSPOTS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TREATMENT PLAN. 
          SO THIS IS, WE SAID 15 MINUTES, AND ON AVERAGE, PRU AND NORTH WERE ABLE TO BE THERE FOR 19 MINUTES. 
          THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING. 
          AND I THINK IT'S 'CAUSE THEY HAVE STAFF WHERE THEIR STAFF IS . 
          IS THERE ON TIME THAT, THAT'S WHAT I, I I DO THINK IT GOES BACK TO A STAFFING ISSUE, WHETHER WE, WE TALK ABOUT, I, I THINK WE DO NEED TO LOOK AT THE, THE DENSITY OF NORTH AND PRU AND WHY THE CATCHMENTS LOOK THE WAY THEY DO. 
          UH, BUT I REALLY DO THINK THAT THIS IS, THIS IS A STAFFING, UH, TIME. 
          AND IF Y'ALL TELL ME THAT SOUTH, CENTRAL AND EAST HAVE THEIR OFFICERS SHOWING UP AND, AND THEY CAN, THEY CAN DO BETTER ON, ON IN THE HOTSPOT, UH, LET'S, LET'S SEE. 
          BUT I THINK THAT THIS, I THINK THIS IS A STAFFING ISSUE, UH, FOR, FOR PRU AND NORTH. 
          UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ON THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, IN THIS STUDY, IS THERE A WAY WE CAN LOOK AT GATEWAY CRIMES TO VIOLENT CRIMES AND CHIEF, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, THE RACING AND THE, THE TAKEOVERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          ARE WE DOING ANY OF THAT OR ARE WE JUST WAITING UNTIL THIS TAKEOVER LEADS TO SOMEONE GETTING SHOT OR SOMEONE GETTING HIT? NO, MA'AM. 
          WE, UH, WE ARE TRACKING THAT WITH FUSION. 
          UM, AND WE ARE IN CONTACT WITH D P S BECAUSE THEY ARE MORE THAN WILLING AND THEY HAVE BEEN COMING DOWN TO ASSIST US WHEN WE HAVE INTELLIGENCE OR INFORMATION THAT TELLS US WHEN THE TAKEOVER GROUPS ARE COMING. 
          AND, AND SOMETIMES THEY'RE HERE AND YOU WON'T EVEN KNOW IT, RIGHT. 
          BUT WE'RE ON TOP OF IT. 
          WE MAKE ARRESTS, WE SEE THE CARS, UM, UH, WE, WE SEE GUNS. 
          SO IT JUST DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH, UH, MEDIA ATTENTION IT GETS, WHETHER OR NOT YOU FIND OUT ABOUT IT. 
          BECAUSE I DO THINK, I THINK THERE ARE SOME NON, NON-VIOLENT CRIMES THAT HAPPENED THAT THEN ESCALATE INTO A VIOLENT 
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INCIDENT IN THESE HOTSPOTS. 
          AND OF COURSE, I'M GOING TO MENTION THE MOTELS ON PRESS AND ROOSEVELT THAT START AS, OH, THIS IS, THIS IS SIMPLY, YOU KNOW, PROSTITUTION, BUT IT, IT'S NOT, IT'S HU AT TIMES IT'S HUMAN TRAFFICKING. 
          AND THEN IT LEADS TO SOMETIMES HOMICIDE. 
          AND THAT'S WHY I THINK I'M, I'M GLAD WITH THE STUDY AND WHAT WE'RE DOING, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO GATHER MORE DATA, ESPECIALLY SPECIFIC TO DISTRICTS IF WE'RE GONNA GO INTO THE OTHER PHASES AND BE EFFECTIVE. 
          UM, SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO THAT. 
          UM, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO SEE. 
          AND THE OTHER IS, UM, THE HOTSPOTS. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT THE COMMUNITIES WANT TO BE INVOLVED. 
          UM, WE'VE SEEN ON THE NEWS THERE'S AREAS IN DISTRICT ONE, AREAS IN DISTRICT THREE THAT THEY'RE SELF-IDENTIFYING AS WE SHOULD BE A HOTSPOT. 
          UM, SO I'M, I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S THINGS THAT WE, IF THERE IS SOMETHING WE CAN DO TO KIND OF GIVE THEM A VOICE TO COMMUNICATE WHAT THEY'RE SEEING, UM, LIKE A SPECIFIC CAPTAIN'S QUARTERLY MEETING WHERE THEY JUST COME IN AND TALK ABOUT HOW THEY SHOULD BE A HOTSPOT. 
          UM, MAYBE WE CAN DO THAT SO THAT THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE BEING HEARD. 
          I KNOW WE DON'T WANT TO TELL PEOPLE, HEY, THESE, THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PLANNING. 
          BUT I THINK AS WE GET INTO THE FULL, BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR, MAYBE WE DO THE REGULAR CAPTAIN'S QUARTERLY MEETING AND THEN POSSIBLY DO A MEETING WHERE THEY GET TO TALK TO THE CAPTAIN OR SOME OF THE PATROL, UH, SERGEANTS OR LIEUTENANTS AND GET TO TELL THEM, I'M A HOTSPOT AND THIS IS WHY I FEEL LIKE I AM BECAUSE OF THIS. 
          BECAUSE WHAT I'M HEARING FROM MY NEIGHBORS, THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE HOTSPOTS, BUT IT'S NOT THE VIOLENT CRIMES THAT THEY ARE REPORTING. 
          AND THAT, AND I CAN'T TELL THEM I, YOU KNOW, WELL, IT'S NOT A VIOLENT CRIME AND THIS IS STRICTLY VIOLENT, BUT I DO THINK THAT THEY HAVE NEED AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO BE HEARD. 
          UH, AND I WANNA THANK YOU, UM, FOR THE PERCENTAGE PERCENTAGES. 
          I THINK, UH, ONCE WE GET THAT MIDYEAR REPORT WITH THE CALLS, WILL WE GET, WILL WE KIND OF BREAK THAT DOWN INTO, UM, THE DEGREE OF FELONIES WHEN WE GET THAT REPORT? IF, IF THE ARRESTS ARE, UM, FELONY, UH, VIOLENT CRIMES? UM, SO WE, WE GENERALLY LOOK AT ARRESTS THROUGH A COUPLE DIFFERENT LENSES, UHHUH, . 
          SO WE, WE LOOK AT ALL ARRESTS, WE'LL LOOK AT VIOLENT ARRESTS, WE'LL LOOK AT WARRANTS SO THAT, SO YOU'LL GET SOME SUBCATEGORIES OF ARRESTS, UH, FOR CALLS FOR SERVICE. 
          WE GENERALLY TRY AND PARSE IT OUT BY CALLS AROUND VIOLENCE, UHHUH, , UM, AND SO THAT WE, YOU KNOW, TRY AND KEEP THE FOCUS ON WHAT THE, THIS PLAN IS INTENDED. 
          SO YOU'LL SEE IT A COUPLE DIFFERENT WAYS, BOTH IN ARRESTS AND CALLS FOR SERVICE. 
          UH, 'CAUSE WE REALLY WANT TO NOT FORGET THAT THERE'S AN, THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT PORTION TO THIS, WHICH IS OUR COURTS AND OUR JUDGES, AND LET THEM UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS WHAT OUR DATA AND INFORMATION SAID. 
          AND THE THING IS, I DO BELIEVE IN MY AREA, IN PARTICULAR IN DISTRICT THREE, THAT THE HOTSPOTS IN MY AREA IN PARTICULAR CAN BE DRIVEN DOWN TO AN ELEMENT OR A GROUP THAT IS, IS FUNCTIONING A AND CONTINUING TO RUN SOME OF THESE, UM, CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES THAT ARE LEADING TO VIOLENT CRIMES. 
          AND, BUT THEY JUST KEEP ON GETTING OUT OR THEY DO NOT GET TO GET, THEY, THEY CAN'T CATCH THEM OR, OR, OR PROSECUTE THEM. 
          BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THAT IS, THAT IS HAPPENING IN PARTS OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IT'S, IT'S A REPEAT OFFENDER. 
          IT'S REPEAT OFFENDERS. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          YEAH, THAT'S PROBABLY TRUE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND THAT'S WHY I'M, I JUST LIKE TO SEE WITH WHAT WE, WHAT DATA WE CAN GET, IF WE CAN FIND DISTRICT SPECIFIC SOLUTIONS. 
          BECAUSE ANOTHER THING THAT'S HAPPENING IN MY AREA IS THERE IS A LOT OF FEAR, UH, IN SOME COMMUNITIES TO SPEAK OUT AND TO REPORT, UM, BECAUSE OF RETALIATION. 
          AND SO I THINK THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS ALSO. 
          UM, SO I'M HOPING WE CAN GET A LOT OF INFORMATION. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND FOR, FOR CLEARING THAT UP ON THE AVERAGE TIME ON SCENE. 
          I DO THINK IT'S A STAFFING ISSUE AND I, I LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING THAT INFORMATION. 
          THANKS, CHIEF. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER GRO. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY. 
          THANK YOU SIR. 
          AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. 
          GREAT INFORMATION. 
          AND IT'S, UH, HEARTENING TO SEE SOME OF THE, UH, STATISTICS IN THE DIRECTION THAT THEY'RE GOING. 
          BUT, UH, WE STILL HAVE SOME BIG PROBLEM AREAS. 
          UM, AND I JUST, UH, GOING THROUGH THE SLIGHT HOMICIDES ARE UP, THE DRUGS, THE 
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NARCOTICS, UH, THE, UH, DESTRUCTION, DAMAGE AND VANDALISM, VEHICLE THEFT IS, UH, ALMOST OFF THE CHARTS. 
          IT'S REALLY WAY UP THERE. 
          UM, AGAIN, THAT'S, THAT'S ON WHAT'S REPORTED COMPARING IT TO LAST YEAR, THE FIRST, FIRST SIX MONTHS. 
          UM, WHAT WOULD BE GREAT TO SEE, AND IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, IS TO KEEP IT IN THE, IN THE NUMBERS AND, UH, UH, ON THOSE EARLIER SLIDES, PUT THE, UM, UH, BREAK IT DOWN BY YEAR ON 21, 22 AND 23 SO THAT YOU CAN SEE WHAT THAT YEARLY TREND IS. 
          ARE WE MAKING A DIFFERENCE FROM YEAR TO YEAR? BECAUSE WHEN YOU GO BACK TO SLIDE NUMBER NINE, UM, THAT SHOWS THE TOTAL INCIDENCES, BUT YOU DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S BROKEN OUT IN THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES. 
          LIKE, LIKE WE'VE SHOWN EARLIER, EARLIER, YOU JUST HAVE, UH, THE COMPARISON TO LAST YEAR, BUT ON SLIDE NINE, YOU HAVE THE YEAR BY YEAR AND YOU CAN SEE THE INCREASE OR THE GROWTH IN THE CRIME ACROSS THE COMMUNITY HERE. 
          BUT AGAIN, YOU DON'T SEE WHAT CATEGORIES THERE ARE THAT'S SPIKING IN THOSE, THOSE AREAS TO IN THE TOTAL YEAR. 
          SO IT'D BE GREAT TO SEE THAT BREAKOUT IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDES TO SHOW THE 20 AND 21 AND 22 COMPARED TO 23. 
          UH, WHICH CHIEF, WHEN DID WE GO TO THE NEIGHBORS REPORTING 21? SO YEAH, 20 PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE APPROPRIATE, BUT STARTING IN 21 AND THEN IN 22, AND THEN COMPARING THAT TO 23 AFTER THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR, UH, BROKEN OUT BY THOSE CATEGORIES THAT YOU DO IN THE EARLIER CHARTS. 
          CHARTS 3, 4, 5, AND UH, SIX. 
          UM, BUT YEAH, JUST, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, SO THAT WE CAN SEE WHERE THOSE BIG PROBLEMS ARE. 
          AND JUST AGAIN, PICKING OUT THE COMPARISON FROM LAST YEAR'S, THERE'S THOSE THAT I NAMED OFF ARE REALLY SOME BIG, BIG PROBLEM AREAS BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LARGE NUMBERS LIKE THE VEHICLE THEFTS. 
          I MEAN, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THOUSANDS, UH, ACROSS THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO, UM, IT'D BE GREAT TO SEE THAT. 
          UM, DID YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THIS GOOD NEIGHBOR PROGRAM? AND DID, DID WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE DART PROGRAM? DID YOU LOOK AT THE DART PROGRAM AT ALL TO SEE WHAT, WHAT IT DOES COMPARED TO WHAT THIS GOOD NEIGHBOR PROGRAM IS? HOW DO THEY COMPARE AND WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? AND ARE WE GOING TO USE A DART FOLKS FOR THE GOOD NEIGHBOR, OR HOW, HOW IS THAT GONNA WORK? SURE. 
          SO, SO THE DEPARTMENTS THAT ADDRESS DART, THEY'RE THE SAME DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE WORKING ON THE GOOD NEIGHBOR, JUST DIFFERENT, UH, CRITERIA FOR EACH OF THE PROGRAMS. AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS, WE'RE GONNA BRING SOME RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON COUNCIL DIRECTION TO ENSURE THAT THOSE, UM, DEPARTMENTS HAD THE PROPER STAFFING TO CONTINUE TO DO BOTH PROGRAMS. SO, OKAY, SO IT'S THE SAME DEPARTMENTS, YOU SAID A LITTLE, LITTLE DIFFERENT CRITERIA. 
          I GUESS, ARE WE DUPLICATING AN EFFORT HERE TO COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT TERM ON WHAT, WHAT WE'RE CALLING THIS OR WHAT? NO, WE ARE, WE ARE NOT. 
          SO GOOD NEIGHBOR IS PRETTY MUCH ALL THE 9 1 1 CALLS THAT COME TO THROUGH OUR 9 1 1 SYSTEM. 
          SO FOR INSTANCE, ON THE, ON THE PROGRAM THAT WE START TO TOMORROW, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE 20, THE TOP 20 ADDRESSES, THE, THE, THE FIRST THREE HOMES, FOR INSTANCE, MOST OF THE CALLS THAT COME IN ARE SPECIFICALLY FOR MENTAL HEALTH AND PATROL BUYS. 
          NOW ON DART, THEY HAVE DIFFERENT CRITERIA AND ANDY CAN EXPAND ON THAT, BUT THAT IS MORE CRIMINAL OFFENSES THAT ARE HAPPENING IN A SPECIFIC ADDRESS. 
          SO DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. SO THE GOOD NEIGHBOR TRIES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, THAT PARTICULAR HOME IS BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR TO THAT BLOCK AND THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING AND REDUCING THOSE 9 1 1 CALLS BY PROVIDING EITHER THE SERVICES THAT ARE NEEDED FOR THAT RESIDENT OR THE OWNER OF THE HOME, OR WE DO ENFORCEMENT. 
          AND, UH, DART IS, UM, PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON CRIMES, UH, CRIMINAL ACTIVITY THAT HAPPENS AT THAT PARTICULAR ADDRESS. 
          OKAY. 
          IF I MAY COUNCILMAN THE LEGAL REMEDIES THAT WE USE FOR THE DART PROGRAM OR ESTABLISH UNDER STATE LAW, WHICH REQUIRE US TO SHOW THAT THERE'S A HISTORY OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY AT THE SIDE BEFORE WE CAN, FOR EXAMPLE, FILE A LAWSUIT THAT IT'S A NUISANCE PROPERTY. 
          SO IT'S DRIVEN BY THOSE STATE CRITERIA AS MARIA SAID THAT THE CRITERIA WE'RE LOSING FOR GOOD NEIGHBOR ARE, ARE MUCH DIFFERENT. 
          'CAUSE YOU'RE LOOKING AT PROPERTIES THAT DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THAT HISTORY OF, OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. 
          I GOT YOU. 
          SO WHEREAS THE GOOD NEIGHBOR PROGRAM IS NOT THAT CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, IT'S JUST CHECKING UP ON 'EM, MAKING SURE THEY'RE OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA BE USING DARK PEOPLE FOR THE GOOD NEIGHBOR PROGRAM OR VICE VERSA. 
          SO THE TEAMS ARE THE SAME DEPARTMENTS. 
          YOU HAVE CITY ATTORNEY'S, OFFICE CODE ENFORCEMENT, ANIMAL CARE SERVICES, POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, WHAT WE ARE GONNA DO AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS 
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IS RECOMMEND SOME RESOURCES TO AUGMENT THOSE DEPARTMENTS TO BE ABLE TO DO BOTH PROGRAMS. OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          UM, JUST THE QUESTION WE, AND I KNOW I'VE TALKED ABOUT IT IN THE PAST ALSO IS OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, PEOPLE THAT HAVE, UH, PROPERTY CRIMES OR STOLEN VEHICLES OR WHATEVER, THEY'RE NOT EVEN REPORTING THEM BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF RESPONSE, UH, BY THE CITY. 
          SO DO WE HAVE ANY, ANY IDEA HOW MANY CRIMES ARE NOT BEING REPORTED TO THE CITY? NO, WE DON'T. 
          AND AND I, THIS IS THE FIRST I'M HEARING THAT THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT REPORTING PROPERTY CRIMES BECAUSE THEY NEVER HEAR ANYTHING. 
          UM, FIRST I'M HEARING THAT. 
          OKAY, WELL, UH, I'VE CERTAINLY HEARD IT IN DISTRICT 10 THAT PEOPLE JUST SAY, HEY, JUST HAD MY CAR BROKEN INTO, DIDN'T REPORT IT. 
          AND UM, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T GET THAT DATA POINT TO SEE WHAT THE TOTAL CRIME IS HERE IN THE CITY. 
          SO, UH, I HAVE BEEN AN ADVOCATE TO CR REPORT EVERYTHING, BUT IT'S STILL HAPPENING OUT THERE BECAUSE THERE'S THIS, THIS IDEA OF, WELL, THEY'RE JUST GONNA COME AND TAKE A REPORT AND I'LL NEVER HEAR BACK FROM 'EM AGAIN. 
          THAT THAT'S THE ATTITUDE. 
          AND SOMEHOW WE GOTTA CHANGE THAT ATTITUDE IN THE COMMUNITY TO REFLECT, YOU NEED TO REPORT ALL THIS STUFF SO THAT WE CAN DETERMINE THOSE HOT SPOTS OR WHATEVER TO HELP PREVENT THOSE PARTICULAR CRIMES. 
          SO, UM, IF YOU HAVEN'T HEARD THAT BEFORE, CHIEF, YOU'RE HEARING IT NOW. 
          I I, I'VE HEARD THAT ON A NUMBER OF OCCASIONS. 
          SO, UH, UM, SOMEHOW WE GOTTA GET, GET THAT INFORMATION OUT, REPORT THOSE INSTANCES OUT THERE AND, AND, AND I DON'T, I DON'T WISH TO GO BACK AND FORTH ON THAT UP AT THE DAIS HERE, BUT I CAN TALK TO YOU AFTERWARDS AND TELL YOU SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON THAT, THAT IT KIND OF ADDRESSES WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          OKAY, BE GLAD TO HEAR THAT. 
          UM, AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT ADDITIONAL, UM, AUTHORIZATIONS, THIS, THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR, YOU KNOW, AROUND A HUNDRED IS WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. 
          I WAS HOPING FOR A FEW MORE THAN THAT, BUT, UM, DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA OR ANY KIND OF OUTLOOK OR ANY, UM, RETURN ON INVESTMENT NUMBERS? WHAT'S THAT GONNA DO TO OUR, UM, IDENTIFYING AND TAKING CARE OF THE CRIME PROBLEM HERE IN TOWN? ARE WE GONNA, ARE WE GONNA SEE A DECREASE OR AN INCREASE BECAUSE WE HAVE MORE OFFICERS OUT THERE? WELL, HOPEFULLY WE SEE A DECREASE AND HOPEFULLY WE SEE AN, UH, A DECREASE IN RESPONSE TIMES AS WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT, GREAT. 
          BUT NOTHING, NOTHING CONCRETE, BUT, BUT, BUT, BUT LEMME SAY THIS, AND YOU'VE, YOU'VE PROBABLY HEARD ME BEAT THIS DRUM A MILLION TIMES BEFORE. 
          WE ARE NOT THE ONLY ENTITY IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM. 
          WE CAN ARREST ALL DAY LONG, BUT IF SOMETHING DOESN'T HAPPEN TO THEM DOWN THE ROAD IN, IN THE SYSTEM, AND THEY'RE BACK OUT ON THE STREET COMMITTING CRIMES AND WHICH HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. 
          AND I, I, YOU KNOW, I'VE REPEATEDLY SAID THAT AND, AND I WILL CONTINUE TO REPEAT IT. 
          GOOD POINT. 
          THERE'S ANOTHER, THERE LIKE LAW AND ORDER, THERE'S TWO PARTS, THE ENFORCEMENT AND THE, UH, UM, CONVICTION AND, AND A QUICK, QUICK EXAMPLE OF THE O I S WE GOT INVOLVED IN LAST SUNDAY. 
          THE GUY THAT WE ARRESTED WAS OUT ON PROBATION, SO, I'M SORRY, BOND, I'M SORRY, BOND, BOND BOND. 
          WELL THAT'S, THAT'S ANOTHER WHOLE ISSUE. 
          BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ALL NEED TO TRY TO, UM, HELP AND ENCOURAGE, UH, MORE ROBUST LEGAL SYSTEM TO, UH, TAKE CARE OF THAT. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR THAT COMMENT, CHIEF. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          YES, SIR. 
          UM, AND THEN I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES ON ACTUALLY PUTTING THE NUMBERS DOWN BECAUSE THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH AND THE INCIDENCES, IT'S, IT'S NOT PERCENTAGES. 
          AND I, I UNDERSTAND THAT WHY WE'RE USING PERCENTAGES, BUT, AND I'VE SAID THIS ON A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS, LET'S, LET'S PUT THE ACTUAL NUMBERS DOWN THERE SO WE CAN SEE WHAT THE, WHAT THE EXTENT OF THOSE ISSUES ARE. 
          SO, UM, YEAH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU DR. 
          SMITH AND, UH, CHIEF, APPRECIATE THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY, COUNCIL MEMBER ELAS. 
          THANKS CHIEF. 
          UM, AND THANKS TO OUR FRIENDS FROM U T S A FOR HELPING US UNDERSTAND THIS ISSUE A LITTLE BIT BETTER AND HELPING US MAP, UM, AWAY FORWARD. 
          I, UH, AS I'M LISTENING TO YOU, I, I HAVE TO KEEP REMINDING MYSELF THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS STILL THE BEGINNING OF A VERY IMPORTANT UNDERTAKING AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE ALL LEARNING ALONG WITH YOU. 
          AND SO I, TODAY, I'VE, I'VE, YOU HAVE DISABUSED ME OF SOME, UH, SOME ASSUMPTIONS THAT I WALKED IN WITH, UH, AND I'M APPRECIATIVE OF THAT. 
          AND SO, UH, I I ALSO THINK, YOU KNOW, ERIC, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, 
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UM, YOU KNOW, IS, UM, CEOS LIKE YOU HAVE TO KEEP REMINDING THEMSELVES OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND, AND CHIEF, YOU KNOW, PINNACLE LEADERS AT AGENCIES HAVE TO REMIND THEMSELVES IS THAT PERFECTION CAN NEVER BE WHAT WE SHOOT FOR, RIGHT? WE'RE NOT GONNA LET PERFECTION BE THE ENEMY OF THE GOOD HERE. 
          AND, AND I THINK THAT WE'RE, WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. 
          UM, AND I'M CERTAINLY NOT EXPECTING PERFECTION FROM YOU GUYS RIGHT NOW, BUT, UM, I, I DO SEE THAT, UH, WE'RE MAKING HEADWAY. 
          I, I WILL ASK. 
          IT'S 'CAUSE I HEARD THE QUESTION AND, AND IT PERKED MY EARS UP TO ERIC. 
          WE HEARD THAT PRU AND NORTH WERE CO COUNCILMAN VRAN HAD MENTIONED THE SLIDE WHERE I THINK IT WAS 19 MINUTES ON SCENE. 
          UM, AND I THOUGHT TO MYSELF, WAIT, YOU KNOW, SHE'S RIGHT. 
          UM, THIS IS A STAFFING ISSUE CLEARLY, BUT CAN, CAN YOU UNPACK THAT A LITTLE BIT? 'CAUSE I NOTICED THAT YOU WANTED TO ANSWER. 
          WELL, I, FIRST OF ALL, I THINK WE, WE OUGHT CALL IT, UM, UH, TIME ON HOTSPOT, NOT ON SCENE. 
          'CAUSE ON SCENE MEANS SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY, UH, FOR EVERYBODY. 
          NUMBER TWO, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE OFFICERS ARE THERE, UM, THEY COULD BE DOING REPORTS. 
          UM, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE GONNA LIVE BY THE, THE ACTUAL ANALYSIS, THEN A SERGEANT WOULD BE MOVING THEM ALONG AFTER 15 MINUTES. 
          BUT, UM, IF THEY'RE, IF IF THE OFFICERS ARE, ARE THERE PARKED AND THEY'RE FINISHING A REPORT AND THEY'RE TAKING ANOTHER TWO OR THREE MINUTE BREAK BEFORE THEY JUMP INTO THE 9 1 1, UM, UM, AVAILABILITY SYSTEM, I'M OKAY WITH THAT. 
          I THINK, I THINK, UH, AND, AND GIVEN THE, THE, THE AVERAGES, IT'S, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL JUST CONTINUE TO MONITOR AND WATCH AND SEE THE, THE, THE EVERY, UM, 60 DAY REPORT FROM U T SS A, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S NOT UNLIKE, UH, MAKING SURE THAT, UM, E M S UNITS DON'T LINGER TOO LONG AT THE HOSPITAL. 
          RIGHT. 
          WE WANT 'EM BACK IN SERVICE, BUT, UH, A FAIR COUPLE MINUTES EITHER WAY, I'M, I'M OKAY WITH OPERATIONALLY UNLESS THERE'S A BIGGER ISSUE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND I IMAGINE THAT CHIEF, YOU'RE DOING STAFFING ANALYSIS TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S THE PROPER HEADCOUNT TO COVER, UH, EACH ONE OF THE DISTRICTS. 
          UH, IS THAT ASSUMPTION CORRECT THAT, UH, THAT STAFFING ANALYSIS THAT DR. 
          WEISS DID, UM, CONTAINS THAT INFORMATION? HOW OFTEN DO YOU GUYS LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF POLICE OFFICERS AT EACH STATION, UM, SO THAT IT'S COMMENSURATE WITH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE RESPONSE NEEDS? I, I KNOW THAT WE DO MAN TOAND DEFENSE AND WE DON'T DO MAN-TO-MAN DEFENSE. 
          WE DO ZONE DEFENSE, RIGHT. 
          UM, LIKE IN BASKETBALL. 
          BUT IN THIS INSTANCE, YOU KNOW, HOW OFTEN DO YOU GO THROUGH THAT ANALYSIS? WE, WE, WE GO THROUGH IT ROUTINELY. 
          UM, EVERY TRANSFER WE LOOK AT THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO NORMALIZE, UM, THE AMOUNT OF TIME ON CALL ACROSS THE SUBSTATIONS AND WE CAN ADJUST THAT WITH THAT TRANSFER. 
          SO WE'LL LOOK AT IT. 
          UM, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A, UH, UH, DASHBOARD THAT INGESTS CAD DATA THAT SHOWS US THAT TIME ON CALL AND WE CAN ANALYZE THAT TO ENSURE WE'RE KEEPING UP WITH THAT. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          I'M LOOKING AT SLIDE 14, THE MAP WITH THE HOTSPOTS, AND I SEE THE, I SEE THE FOUR HOTSPOTS AND I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THESE ARE CORNER OF BABCOCK AND DELO, UH, CHIEF AND, UM, ANDY, THIS IS WHERE YOUR DEPARTMENTS ALONG WITH THE REST OF THE DART TEAM HELPED US. 
          UM, THIS WAS, UH, THE CORNER WHERE THE HOOKAH LOUNGE IS. 
          JOE FRANK, UH, WAS ONE OF THESE B Y O B BARS. 
          WE HAD KILLINGS THERE. 
          WE HAD SHOOTINGS, AND IT WAS JUST A REAL PAIN IN EVERYBODY'S NECK. 
          AND I'M VERY THANKFUL THAT YOU GUYS HELPED US DART THAT. 
          UH, I HAVE A FEELING IN THE NEXT PERIOD THAT WE'RE GONNA SEE NO RED DOT THERE. 
          UH, AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT HOTSPOT SITUATION WILL HAVE BEEN, UH, RESOLVED THE OTHER TWO, UH, A LITTLE BIT FURTHER NORTH. 
          UH, THAT'S THE CORNER OF U T S A AND BABCOCK. 
          WE GOT TWO BARS THERE. 
          ONE'S CALLED THE SANDBOX, THE OTHER ONE'S THE WITNESS. 
          I THINK WE HAD A MURDER THE NIGHT BEFORE. 
          UH, MOTHER'S DAY. 
          UM, SOMEBODY GOT STABBED IN THE NECK WITH A PIECE OF BOTTLE. 
          UM, AND WE'VE HAD SHOOTINGS THERE. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THAT, THAT THOSE TWO BARS ARE THE BAINS OF MY EXISTENCE RIGHT NOW. 
          AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS I'D REQUESTED ERIC A. LONG TIME AGO, AND, UH, I THINK THAT WE'D PUT IT ON THE BACK BURNER JUST TO SEE WHAT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN, UH, WAS A, UH, PERMIT ONLY NEIGHBORHOOD PARKING, UH, JUST FOR THAT ONE NEIGHBORHOOD THERE AT COLLEGE PARK. 
          I THINK THAT'S THE SOLUTION. 
          THEY THINK THAT'S THE SOLUTION. 
          UM, AND I, I REALLY INSIST THAT WE, WE PICK THAT UP AGAIN, GUYS. 
          UH, IT'S GOT, I MEAN, I HAD A MURDER , UH, AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE VIDEOS, I'VE SEEN THE VIDEOS OF THE MAN GETTING MURDERED. 
          UH, AND I MEAN, THAT PLACE WAS JUST PACKED FULL OF PEOPLE. 
          SO, UH, AND IT, AND IT SHOULDN'T BE. 
          AND THEN THE THIRD ONE, UM, 1604 AND BABCOCK, THERE'S ALSO A COLLECTION OF BARS THERE, THERE'S ARE, UH, U T S A BARS. 
          AND, UH, SO I'M NOT SURPRISED, BUT WHAT I DO WANT TO ASK IS, CAN WE SEE A SUPERIMPOSED MAP OF BARS NEAR THESE HOTSPOTS JUST TO SORT OF UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT BETTER? 'CAUSE I, I HAVE A FEELING THAT THERE'S A DIRECT RELATIONSHIP THERE WITH, UH, DRINKING SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND ROWDY, YOU 
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KNOW, KNUCKLEHEADS WHO ARE DOING STUPID THINGS. 
          I SIGNED A LETTER TO T A B C TRYING TO REVOKE ONE OF THEIR LICENSES ON ONE OF THOSE ESTABLISHMENTS YOU MENTIONED YOU'RE MY HERO CHIEF YESTERDAY. 
          CHIEF, THANK YOU. 
          UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WE HAD, UH, AND I THINK YOU GUYS ARRESTED THE MAN OVER THE PAST, UH, TWO DAYS, UH, YET ANOTHER MURDER, UH, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF I 10 AT A BAR CALLED PRI, PRIVATE PREVA, WHATEVER. 
          THAT'S THE PLACE I SIGNED THE LETTER FOR. 
          YEAH. 
          AND SO CHIEF, THAT'S AN EXAMPLE, RIGHT? THAT'S A HOTSPOT THAT I'M NOT SEEING POP UP HERE. 
          AND THAT'S WHY I'M WORRIED, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A BAR THAT I THINK HAD ATTRACTED 309 1 1 CALLS OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS, RIGHT? UM, AND MULTIPLE, I'VE SEEN ALL THE CALLS. 
          MANY OF THEM ARE GUN INVOLVED SHOOTING BRANDISHING A WEAPON, FIGHTS, UH, ASSAULT, ASSAULT, ASSAULT, ASSAULT. 
          UM, AND SO I, I, I KNOW THAT YOU FILED IT, I FILED MY LETTER ALSO, YOU KNOW, ASKING THAT THEIR RENEWAL OF THEIR LIQUOR LICENSE BE DENIED. 
          BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE WHO PARTY THERE, THEY'RE JUST GONNA GO FIND ANOTHER BAR, RIGHT? AND SO I'D, I'D, AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO, IF I CAN INSIST THAT YOU GUYS GIMME SOME SORT OF SUPERIMPOSED MAP OF WHERE THE BAR LOCATIONS ARE NEAR THESE HOTSPOTS, SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND THAT A LITTLE BIT BETTER. 
          AND THEN LASTLY, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THE DATA'S ALWAYS GONNA BE IMPERFECT TO COUNCILMAN PERRY'S POINT. 
          THERE'S GONNA BE, THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT DON'T REPORT CRIME. 
          I MEAN, I, I DIDN'T REPORT WHEN MY CAR GOT BROKEN INTO AND MY LAPTOP GOT STOLEN. 
          I'M JUST NOT GONNA DO THAT. 
          YOU KNOW? UH, 'CAUSE I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE USE? UH, I REPORTED WHEN MINE GOT BROKEN INTO YEAH, YEAH. 
          AND SO WE, UH, . 
          BUT, BUT THE REALITY IS, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE DATA IS THE DATA, RIGHT? AND WE'RE YOU, YOU GUYS ARE DOING THE BEST TO COLLECT IT AND SYNTHESIZE IT. 
          UM, AND WE'RE PLAYING WITH THE CARDS THAT ARE DEALT TO US, US. 
          AND SO, AND I, I THINK SO FAR YOU GUYS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB. 
          SO, THANKS. 
          THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER PAL. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER CASTILLO. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          HOW MANY, UH, FOLKS ARE ANALYZING THIS DATA THAT ARE ASSIGNED TO THE, THE DATA THAT PDS, UH, SENDING OVER TO U T SS A ON OUR SIDE OR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SIDE? U T S A SIDE? SO THERE'S, THERE'S SIX PEOPLE ON OUR TEAM. 
          WE DON'T ALWAYS TOUCH THE DATA EVERY TIME. 
          SO THERE'S TWO PRIMARY DATA ANALYSTS ON, ON EVERY, FOR EVERY CITY TO OKAY. 
          AND, AND DID I MISUNDERSTAND THAT? UH, YOU STATED THAT THERE FOUR OF Y'ALL WORKING ON THIS STUDY AND IT WAS DIFFICULT TO ANALYZE. 
          I THINK YOU MISUNDERSTOOD ME. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID, BUT, OKAY. 
          I GUESS YOU MISSPOKE. 
          ERIC, HOW MUCH ARE WE PAYING FOR THIS STUDY, COUNCILWOMAN? I WILL VERIFY THE AMOUNT, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S $150,000, $150,000. 
          THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AND SAP P D IS PROVIDING THE DATA TO BE ANALYZED. 
          I'VE BEEN CORRECT. 
          IT'S 120,000 AND YES, WE ARE PROVIDING THE DATA TO BE ANALYZED. 
          OKAY. 
          WITH THAT, I'M A A BIT DISSATISFIED WITH THE PRESENTATION OF THE DATA AND THE ANALYSIS OF THE DATA. 
          UM, THERE ARE FAR TOO MANY GAPS AGAIN, RIGHT? WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IMPACTING, UH, THE LIVES OF SAN ANTONIO RESIDENTS AND A MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR BUDGET. 
          UH, AND, AND TO BE FAIR, I KNOW A COUPLE OF GRAD STUDENTS AT U T SS A THAT COULD ADEQUATELY PRESENT AND ANALYZE THE SEATTLE CITY COUNCIL. 
          THERE ARE A COUPLE OF BOOKS, UM, THAT I WOULD STRONGLY RECOMMEND. 
          IT'S CALLED THE CITY OF INMATES BY, UH, KELLY LIDDEL HERNANDEZ OVER AT U C L A AND A CITY OF SUSPECTS BY PAO, PICASSO, RAT STANFORD. 
          UM, THEY PROVIDE A GREAT ANALYSIS OF CRIMINOLOGY AND THE HISTORY OF CRIMINOLOGISTS. 
          UM, WITH THAT, I, I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE, UH, DR. 
          ARROGANT REED AND REFLECT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER CASTILLO. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER ROSO GARCIA. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          AND I JUST, I SAW THIS SLIDE POP UP AND I REALIZED THAT WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE NUMBER OF HOTSPOTS IN PER DISTRICT. 
          DID Y'ALL SEND THAT OUT? BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT MINE. 
          IT LOOKS REALLY LIGHT RIGHT NOW. 
          WE DID NOT COUNCIL MEMBER, BUT WE CAN VISIT WITH YOU ON YEAH, IT'S PARTICULARLY IN YOUR DISTRICT, BECAUSE I WAS GONNA INVITE EVERYBODY FROM DA TO MOVE OVER TO D FOUR IF THIS IS LIKE THE HOTSPOT BASED. 
          BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, BUT SO, SO I WAS JUST INTERESTED TO, TO SEE HOW THEY WERE PICKED UP. 
          YEAH, WE, WE, WE FOLLOWED UP WITH A NUMBER OF THE OFFICES THAT ASKED FOR THAT. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          OKAY, THEN WE'LL DO THAT AGAIN. 
          WELL, YOU CAN ADD, ADD ME ON THERE. 
          AND THEN, UM, ON THE, UH, AND THEN CHIEF, JUST ANOTHER ANTIDOTE FOR YOU. 
          I, UM, WAS HAVING DINNER WITH A FRIEND AND, UM, HIS TRUCK GOT BROKEN INTO, HE SAID, I'M NOT GONNA REPORT IT. 
          I'D RATHER JUST PAY FOR THE DAMAGE. 
          AND SO, BECAUSE OF THE SAME REASON THAT COUNCILMAN PERRY SAID, AND I OFFERED AND I SAID, OH, THEY'RE NOT GONNA TAKE THAT LONG. 
          I'LL STAY. 
          I'LL WAIT. 
          LIKE TO PROVE A POINT. 
          AND YEAH, HE'S LIKE, NO, NO, I'LL JUST TAKE CARE OF IT. 
          SO THERE'S A LOT OF CRIME THAT GOES UNREPORTED, NOT JUST PROPERTY CRIMES. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHE GARCIA, COUNCIL MEMBER 
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GRA. 
          YES. 
          AND THIS IS MAINLY FOR MARIA. 
          I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE, UM, STATUS OF WOMEN REPORT ALSO AND THE STATUS OF GIRLS REPORT AS WE GET INTO THIS SECOND PHASE. 
          UH, AND, UM, UM, I'M ALSO FOR SEEING WHAT METRO HEALTH DATA CAN, CAN KIND OF HELP AS WE, AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. 
          AND WE SET UP THE OTHER PHASES WHERE WE'RE REALLY GOING INTO THE COMMUNITY AND TRYING TO ADDRESS PREVENTION. 
          AND I, AND MY BELIEF IS IT'S GONNA START VERY YOUNG, LIKE MIDDLE SCHOOL. 
          SO, UM, THAT, THAT'S THE OTHER TWO THINGS I WANNA LEAVE WITH YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER VERAN, ERIC. 
          YEAH, LET ME, UM, I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA START WITH PREVENTION. 
          I THINK IT'S GONNA START WITH PROBLEM SOLVING AND A LOT OF ENFORCEMENT. 
          UM, AND PROBLEM SOLVING BEING POTENTIALLY THINGS LIKE LIGHTING OR, YOU KNOW, THOSE COMMUNITY ASPECTS OF IT. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL NECESSARILY START WITH PREVENTION 'CAUSE I THINK WE'LL LEARN A LOT AS WE GO THROUGH THE GOOD NEIGHBOR PROGRAM. 
          IT'S THE GOOD NEIGHBOR PROGRAM IS NOT GONNA PROBABLY BE ABOUT, ABOUT ENFORCEMENT, IT'S GONNA BE ABOUT CONNECTION TO RESOURCES. 
          'CAUSE YOU SAW WHEN WE DID THAT B SESSION, MOST OF 'EM ARE MENTAL HEALTH RELATED CALLS. 
          BUT AS WE KNOCK THOSE ITEMS OFF, WE'RE GONNA GET TO A POINT, BLESS YOU, WHERE, UM, ENFORCEMENT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE A KEY PART OF THAT. 
          AND, BUT I THINK, I THINK IT'S KEEPING ALL THOSE ASPECTS ON THE TABLE AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. 
          UM, BUT, BUT, UH, JUST THOUGHT I WANTED TO SHARE THAT I, AND I, AND I HEAR YOU. 
          BUT UNTIL WE CAN COMMUNICATE WITH THE COUNTY AND THE ENFORCEMENT ASPECT OF THIS, AND I, I THINK WE, OUR, OUR STRONGEST IS GOING TO ALSO BE PREVENTION. 
          THAT IS KEY. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          I DO, I DO AGREE WITH THAT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, COUNCIL MEMBER GRO, AND I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE QUEUE. 
          IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? UH, LET ME THANK, UH, DR. 
          SMITH, DR. 
          TILLER, UH, CHIEF, UH, THE CITY TEAM. 
          MARIA, EVERYBODY. 
          ERIC, UH, IT'S LEANED INTO THIS, I THINK INITIALLY, AGAIN, POSITIVE, CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC, UH, DATA. 
          THIS IS A PART OF A BROADER PARTNERSHIP WE HAVE WITH U T S A AND, AND THEIR CRIMINOLOGISTS AND, AND ACADEMIC DEPARTMENTS. 
          UH, AND WE'RE ALSO EXTENDING THAT TO OTHER HIGHER EDUCATION INSTITUTIONS TO GET, UH, ANALYSIS ON OUR DATA. 
          UM, AND UH, I THINK THIS IS GONNA GO FURTHER INTO OTHER DEPARTMENT WORK AS WELL. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND MAYOR, CERTAINLY ONE OF THE THINGS I HEARD THIS AFTERNOON IS AS WE PROGRESS TO, TO FURTHER PHASES, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE BUILDING IN THAT COMMUNITY INPUT ELEMENT, UM, AS WELL AS HOW WE'RE COMMUNICATING TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO WE WILL, WE'LL LOOK TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT. 
          GREAT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, ANDY, DO WE HAVE A EXEC SESSION? NO, NOT TODAY. 
          MAYOR, NOT EXEC. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANKS EVERYBODY. 
          THE TIME IS 4:08 PM ON 31ST DAY OF MAY, 2023. 
          OUR B SESSION IS ADJOURNED.
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