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ALL RIGHT.

GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

IF WE COULD BEGIN WITH OUR SPANISH TRANSLATION SERVICES.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

THANK YOU CHAIR ALL.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, BEFORE WE BEGIN, UM, I BELIEVE WE STILL HAVE MASKS AVAILABLE IF I'LL ASSUME WE DO, IF YOU WOULD LIKE, UM, IN, IN THAT CORNER.

MY NAME IS ROB S SIPES AND I AM THE CHAIR OF THE ZONING COMMISSION FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT SEVEN ZONING COMMISSIONER.

I HEREBY CALL THIS REGULARLY NOTICED MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION IN SESSION.

THE TIME IS 1 0 9.

I'D LIKE TO DO A ROLL CALL VOTE BY ALLOWING THE ZONING COMMISSIONERS TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, STARTING WITH THE COMMISSIONER ON MY FAR LEFT.

MARCO BARROS, UH, DISTRICT NINE, JOHN BUSANTE, DISTRICT FIVE.

JOE NICKS, DISTRICT 10, VAL ORTIZ, DISTRICT EIGHT.

EDDIE REYES, DISTRICT FOUR.

CHARLES FUENTES FOR DISTRICT THREE.

NUIT DISTRICT SIX STAFF IS A QUORUM PRESENT.

A QUORUM IS PRESENT.

ALRIGHT.

MR. THE CHAIR? YES.

I OH MY GOSH.

COMMISSIONER WATSON.

OKAY.

WE COULDN'T, WE COULDN'T HEAR HER, BUT I, I READ WHAT SHE SAID.

, SHE'S GIVING THE THUMBS UP NOW.

WE'RE GOOD.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.

WE SEE, I TOLD Y'ALL I WOULD NEED SOME PROMPTING.

UM, OH, FIRST I'D LIKE TO FORMALLY RECOGNIZE OUR NEWEST COMMISSIONER, EDDIE REYES, WHO IS REPLACING OUR LONG-TERM COMMISSIONER THAT WE HAD, UH, COMMISSIONER KAMATH.

SO WELCOME.

UM, OH, SO IF EVERYONE WOULD PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

WE LEAVE YOU JUST A FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

PRIOR TO COMMENCING OUR HEARING, IF WE COULD HAVE, UH, STAFF REVIEW OUR MEETING FORMAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE STAFF.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

BEFORE I BEGIN, PLEASE TURN YOUR PHONES ON VIBRATE OR TURN THEM OFF.

THE ZONING COMMISSION IS AN 11 MEMBER BODY APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ZONING CASES UPON RECEIVING A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION.

YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO FORWARD YOUR CASE TO CITY COUNCIL.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PROCEDURE, PLEASE CONTACT YOUR CASE MANAGER.

STAFF WILL BEGIN EACH CASE WITH A SHORT PRESENTATION OF THE REQUEST.

PART OF THE PRESENTATION INCLUDES A MAP THAT SHOWS THE AREA TO BE CONSIDERED FOR REZONING AND PROPERTY WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT.

PROPERTY CHECK MARKS INDICATE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND AN EX INDICATES THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN OPPOSITION.

FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION AND ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION, THE APPLICANT WILL PRESENT THEIR REQUEST FOR THOSE THAT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE PROPOSED REZONING.

YOU WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THAT YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR THOSE IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION.

YOU WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER AND YOU ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO UTILIZE THE MAXIMUM TIME LIMITATION.

YOU WILL BE INFORMED WHEN THE THREE MINUTES ARE UP.

FOR THOSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEIR TIME TO A SPEAKER, THAT SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO PEOPLE GIVING THEIR TIME FOR A TOTAL OF NINE MINUTES.

THOSE GIVING UP THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AND SIGNED IN TO SPEAK.

AND WE, WE NEED YOU TO INDICATE IF, IF YOU'RE YIELDING YOUR TIME WHEN THE SPEAKER IS GOING UP TO THE PODIUM, THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL LIMITED TO ONE SPEAKER WITH A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT ALONG WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSION QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

THANK YOU.

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UM, STAFF, IF WE COULD GO OVER ANY WITHDRAWN OR POSTPONED ITEMS. WE HAVE ONE ITEM FOR, UH, POSTPONEMENT THAT IS ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, LOCATED AT 1 1 1 1 5 WARBUCK ROAD.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

UM, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU ARE HERE FOR THAT, THE PROPERTY

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ON WARBUCK ROAD, UH, THOSE ITEMS, THAT ITEM WILL NOT BE HEARD TODAY.

SO YOU ARE FREE TO, UH, ENJOY THE, THE AFTERNOON AND YOU WILL BE RE NOTIFIED IF OR WHEN A FUTURE ACTION OCCURS ON THAT ITEM.

THANK YOU.

UM, STAFF, IF WE COULD GO OVER THE LIST OF ITEMS ON THE COMBINED AGENDA ITEMS ON THE COMBINED AGENDA.

WE HAVE ITEMS NUMBER 3, 5, 11, 12, 13, 16, AND 17.

OKAY, THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.

ARE THERE ANY OF THESE ITEMS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO PULL DOWN TO INDIVIDUAL LOOKING LEFT LOOKING RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER WATSON.

OKAY, SHE'S FINE WITH THAT.

SO IF WE COULD READ THOSE ITEMS INTO THE RECORD PLEASE.

ITEM NUMBER THREE IS ASSIGNING ZONING TO A PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED SOUTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF SOMERSET ROAD AND WATSON ROAD.

CURRENTLY OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS BY APPLYING M H C MANUFACTURED HOUSING CONVENTIONAL DISTRICT.

UM, 23 NOTICES WERE MAILED.

ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED, AND THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION REGISTERED WITHIN 200 FEET.

UM, THE NEXT ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C TWO CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR PARTY HOUSE RECEPTION.

HALL MEETING FACILITIES WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR BINGO HALL TO IDZ.

THREE WITH USES PERMITTED IN C THREE WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.

LOCATED AT 1331 BANDERA ROAD 40 NOTICES WERE SENT.

ONE IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND NO RESPONSE FROM UNIVERSITY PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR UM, DONALDSON TERRACE OR WOODLAWN HILLS.

THERE IS OUTSIDE 200 FEET.

THERE WAS ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR.

ITEM NUMBER 11 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C TWO RE GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE 9,400 BLOCK OF TEEL ROAD.

41.

NOTICES WERE SENT ONE IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND NO RESPONSE FROM THE BRONZE STATION WEST COMMUNITY IMPROVEMENT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OUTSIDE 200 FEET.

WE RECEIVED ONE IN OPPOSITION.

ITEM NUMBER 12 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C THREE NA TO C TWO CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR AUTO PAIN AND BODY REPAIR WITH OUTSIDE STORAGE OF VEHICLES AND PARTS PERMITTED BUT SCREENED FROM VIEW OF ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS IN PUBLIC LOCATED AT 72 81 WEST LOOP.

1604 NORTH EIGHT NOTICES WERE SENT.

ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.

ITEM NUMBER 13 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM O TWO TO I D Z ONE WITH USES PERMITTED IN C ONE LIGHT COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.

LOCATED AT 14 1 1 UPLAND DRIVE.

32 NOTICES WERE SENT.

ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.

ITEM ITEM NUMBER 16 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C THREE AND I ONE TO I ONE WITH OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.

LOCATED AT 14 8 2 9 BULVERDE ROAD.

11.

NOTICES WERE SENT.

ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.

AND FINAL ITEM NUMBER 17 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM I ONE TO C THREE WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.

GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE 3000 BLOCK OF SOUTH WW WHITE ROAD.

19.

NOTICES WERE SENT.

ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED PECON PECON VALLEY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT.

THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THESE ITEMS? WE DO NOT.

OKAY, GREAT.

UM, IS THERE A MOTION FROM A COMMISSIONER MR. CHAIR? I MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF ITEMS 3 5 11, 12, 13, 16 AND 17.

ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

SECOND.

ALRIGHT, THERE'S A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE FOR APPROVAL OF ITEMS 3 5 11 12 13, 16 AND SECOND 17.

SORRY.

UH, THE SECOND MADE BY COMMISSIONER NICKS.

UM, ANY DISCUSSION LOOKING LEFT? LOOKING RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER WATSON? OKAY, IF WE COULD HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE AYE.

COMMISSIONER NICKS? YES.

COMMISSIONER FUENTES.

AYE.

COMMISSIONER REYES? AYE.

COMMISSIONER, WE AYE.

COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES.

COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES.

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COMMISSIONER WATSON.

CHAIR SIPES? YES.

ITEMS PASS.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU WERE HERE FOR ANY OF THOSE ITEMS THAT WERE READ INTO THE RECORD ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, THOSE ITEMS WILL NOW BE PROCEEDING TO CITY COUNCIL AND YOU ARE FREE TO ENJOY THE REST OF THE DAY.

ALRIGHT, WE ARE NOW GONNA MOVE ON TO OUR COMBINED HEARING NUMBER.

OOPS, SORRY.

MINE HEARING NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS OUR CONTINUANCE HEARING ITEMS TO BE CONTINUED TO JUNE 20TH ARE ITEMS NUMBER SIX, 10, AND 14.

ITEM NUMBER SIX IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO I D Z ONE WITH USES PERMITTED IN NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND THREE DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL LAKES TO REMAIN THE SAME.

LOCATED AT THREE 11 EAST ASHBY PLACE, 41 NOTICES WERE SENT.

ONE IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED TOKEN HILL COMMUNITY AND MONTE VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS ARE OPPOSED.

ITEM NUMBER 10 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FOUR TO R FOUR CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.

LOCATED AT 1203 CATON AVENUE.

32 NOTICES PERCENT ZERO IN FAVOR, 15 OPPOSED HIGHLAND PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED AND OUTSIDE 200 FEET FOUR WERE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION.

ITEM NUMBER 14 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C TWO NA TO C TWO SS WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A CAR WASH.

GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 3000 BLOCK OF SOUTHEAST MILITARY DRIVE.

28 NOTICES WERE SENT OUT.

ONE IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED MONTE VIEJO COMMUNITIES NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR.

HIGHLAND FOREST NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED AND NO RESPONSE FROM THE HIGHLAND HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

AND WE DO HAVE, UH, SPEAKERS HERE FOR, UM, ITEM NUMBER 10.

ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD, UH, BEGIN WITH THE SPEAKERS FOR ITEM 10.

DO WE HAVE ANY VOICEMAILS AFTER THAT OR NO, THERE ARE NO VOICEMAILS FOR THESE THREE ITEMS. OKAY, THANK YOU.

UM, THE FIRST SPEAKER I HAVE IS, I APOLOGIZE, RACHEL ROHER OR RUMOR ROAR, LIKE LION ROAR.

THANK YOU .

UM, THANK YOU.

AND IF YOU COULD, UH, GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

THANKS RACHEL ROAR.

1143 CATON RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PROPERTY.

35 YEARS AGO, MY HUSBAND AND I DECIDED TO PURCHASE OUR HOME AT 1143 CATON AVENUE BECAUSE IT WAS A QUIET, SPACIOUS NEIGHBORHOOD OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

THERE IS A GREAT DEAL OF HISTORY IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

MANY OF OUR NEIGHBORS HAVE LIVED THERE FOR DECADES, SOME AS MANY AS 45 YEARS.

I WANT TO CONTINUE IN LIVING IN OUR QUIET FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD.

HOWEVER, THIS WILL NOT BE POSSIBLE IF 1203 CATON IS ZONED A MULTI-FAMILY UNIT WITH TWO, THREE OR FOUR FAMILIES LIVING ON THE PROPERTY.

WHEN MR. CADE PURCHASED A PROPERTY, HE WAS FULLY AWARE IT WAS ZONED A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE.

DESPITE THIS, HE PROCEEDED WITH THE PURCHASE AS HE HAD THE INTENTION OF CONVERTING THE SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTY INTO A MULTI-FAMILY PROPERTY.

SORRY.

UNFORTUNATELY, HE BEGAN WORK ON HIS BUSINESS BEFORE DOING HIS DUE DILIGENCE AND ENSURING THAT HE COULD LEGALLY AND COMPLIANTLY RUN AN APARTMENT COMPLEX IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

HE HAS CLEARLY PUT HIS OWN BUSINESS VENTURES AND DESIRES BEFORE THE INTEREST AND THE NEEDS OF OUR NEIGHBORS AND OUR COMMUNITY.

I HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW MR. GOODELL'S APPLICATION PROCESS AND THE RULES HE INTENDS TO ENFORCE UPON HIS TENANTS.

THESE RULES DO NOT GUARANTEE RESPONSIBLE AND RESPECTABLE TENANTS.

WE HAVE LIVED THROUGH THIS IN THE PAST WHEN THE PREVIOUS OWNER HAD USED A DWELLING OUTSIDE THE APPROVED ZONING REGULATIONS.

DESPITE BACKGROUND CHECKS, LEASE AGREEMENTS AND RULES IN PLACE, WE ROUTINELY HAD NOISY NEIGHBORS EXPERIENCE EXPERIENCING FAMILY DISTURBANCES AND LITTERING UP AND DOWN THE BLOCK.

EVEN WORSE, OUR OWN FAMILY EXPERIENCED PERSONAL ATTACKS FROM ONE OF THE PREVIOUS TENANTS.

MR. CADE'S PLANT IS NOTHING NOVEL OR NEW.

WE HAVE EXPERIENCED THIS IN THE PAST AND KNOW IT WILL LEAD TO PROBLEMS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE NEIGHBORS OF 1203 CATON ARE IN STRONG OPPOSITION TO THE REZONING.

WE MET LAST FRIDAY, EXCUSE ME, TO DISCUSS THE UPCOMING MEETING.

AND SEVERAL OF THE NEIGHBORS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO 1203 WE'RE AT THE MEETING.

SORRY.

WE AGREED THAT WE DO NOT WANT OUR PRIVACY AND OUR LIVABILITY TO BE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED DUE TO THE INCREASED

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CAPACITY AND OVERCROWDING IN OUR RESIDENTIAL AREAS.

THE MAJORITY OF THE LOCAL NEIGHBORS ARE SENIORS, VETERANS AND RETIRED LAW ENFORCEMENT WHO HAVE WORKED HARD TO BE ABLE TO SPEND THEIR GOLDEN YEARS IN A SINGLE FAMILY AREA.

WE PLANNED AND WORKED HARD TO LIVE IN THE AREA FREE FROM MULTI-FAMILY UNITS.

AS WE ENJOY OUR RETIREMENT, IF APPROVED, THIS WILL JEOPARDIZE THE LIVING CONDITIONS.

WE HAVE WORKED HARD TO EARN AND CAUSE UNNECESSARY EMOTIONAL STRESS.

I AGAIN, WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS MY STRONG OPPOSITION TO THE REZONING FURTHER.

I WOULD LIKE THAT THE CONTINUANCE NOT BE APPROVED.

MR. CADEL HAS PRESENTED HIS ARGUMENT IN CASE TO ME AND THE NEIGHBORS.

I UNDERSTAND HIS PLANS AND INTENTIONS AND REMAINS STRONGLY OPPOSED.

I DO NOT SEE A NEED FOR A CONTINUANCE AS THIS WILL ONLY CONTINUE TO DRAG OUT THE ISSUE.

CAN I GO ON? I HAVE ONE MORE SENTENCE.

OKAY.

CONTINUE TO DRAG OUT THE STRESS TO MYSELF AND NEIGHBORS.

I URGE YOU TO PLEASE PROTECT THE NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE WORKED SO HARD TO EARN PEACE DURING RETIREMENT AND VOTE AGAINST THE REZONING AND CONTINUANCE FOR 1203 CATON.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

NEXT I HAVE MR. ROY ROHER.

AND THEN AFTER MR. ROY WILL BE TOM WATCHER ROY ROHRER, I THE OTHER HALF OF THAT YOUNG LADY RIGHT THERE.

UH, SHE DID A GOOD JOB.

UH, WHAT MY CONCERN IS, IS THAT I DON'T BELIEVE THE HOUSE WAS ORIGINALLY ZONED FOR BEING DUPLEXED, BUT IT HAPPENED AND WE MOVED IN.

IT WAS LIKE THAT.

UH, THERE WERE FAMILIES THAT MOVED IN, THREE PEOPLE TO A, TO A HOUSE, UH, THREE CARS.

AND THEY ALSO WORKED FOR A COMPANY THAT HAD A LARGE VAN AND THEY WOULD LEAVE THAT VAN THERE WHEN THEY WERE NOT WORKING.

UH, IT'S A NARROW STREETS 24 FEET IF YOU PUT A CARS ON ONE SIDE.

UH, AND THEY WERE USUALLY ON BOTH SIDES.

IT MAKES IT VERY HARD TO NAVIGATE THE STREET IT'S USED FOR SCHOOL BUSES, CITY BUSES.

ANYTIME THERE'S ANY DETOURS OR ANY CONGESTION ON THE SURROUNDING STREETS, UH, WE TOOK A POLL AND THIS IS THE MAP THEY SENT OUT.

THIS IS WHAT WE USED.

WE CAN PROJECT IT FOR THEM.

DO WHAT WE CAN PROJECT IT.

OH, WHATEVER, UH, OF THE ONES WE CONTACTED AND SOME WE WERE UNABLE TO CONTACT.

WE MADE VIL GOOD DUTY TO TRY TO, BUT WE DIDN'T.

70% ARE OPPOSED OF THE IMMEDIATE HOUSES IN THE VICINITY.

I MEAN, THE ONES THAT ARE RIGHT NEXT DOOR ACROSS THE STREET AND THAT IT'S 83% OPPOSED.

WE DIDN'T FIND ANYONE THAT WAS IN FAVOR OF IT.

IF YOU PUT, IF YOU GO FROM A SINGLE FAMILY, 3, 4, 5 PEOPLE IN A HOUSE, TWO, MAYBE THREE CARS, BUT YOU PUT FOUR PEOPLE IN THERE, YOU'RE TALKING MAYBE SIX, EIGHT CARS NOW.

HE SAID THAT HE WILL PROVIDE PARKING SPACES FOR FOUR.

HE CAN DO THAT.

IT'S, IT'S NOT ON THE STREET.

IT'S UP IN THE YARD.

FOUR CARS.

UH, IF YOU HAVE ANYONE ELSE THAT PURCHASED A CAR, HAS A SECOND CAR, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO PARK IT ON THE STREET.

HE CANNOT CONTROL THAT.

IT'S PUBLIC ROADWAY.

THEY CAN PARK THERE.

AND LIKE I SAID, SOMETIMES WE'VE HAD AS MANY SIX, SEVEN CARS PARKED THERE, BOTH SIDES WHEN THEY PARK.

I'VE HAD TO PUT A CURB UP.

CITY HAS NOT EVER PUT CURBING ON THAT STREET, SO IT'S OPEN.

IF I DID NOT HAVE CURBING UP, UH, THEY WOULD JUST DRIVE UP ON MY LOT JUST AS WELL AND PARK THERE.

IT WAS LIKE, IT'S A FREEBIE.

I WOULD PROPOSE THIS IF YOU WOULD EACH PUT YOURSELF IN OUR POSITION AND THINK ABOUT IF YOU GO HOME TODAY, YOUR NEIGHBOR HAS MOVED, FOUR MEMBERS HAVE GONE, THEIR TWO CARS ARE GONE.

BUT THAT HOUSE HAS BEEN TURNED INTO A FOURPLEX AND NOW YOU'RE LOOKING AT SIX, EIGHT MORE CARS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

YOU KNOW, AS MANY AS MAYBE 6, 8, 10 PEOPLE AT THAT RESIDENCE.

UH, IT CONCERNS US.

WE'RE AGAINST IT BEING HEARD AT A LATER DATE.

MANY OF THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO HAVE BEEN HERE TODAY, UH, ARE NOT HEALTHY ENOUGH TO BE HERE.

THEY'VE HAD DEATHS IN THEIR FAMILIES, THINGS LIKE THAT.

THEY COULD NOT BE HERE.

SO TO POSTPONE IT AND MAKE IT ANOTHER DAY, IT JUST MEANS IT'S A HARDSHIP ON THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD TO TRY TO GET THIS RESOLVED.

AND WE WOULD LIKE TO GET IT RESOLVED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

NEXT WE HAVE MR. TOM WETZLER, BELIEVE.

AND THEN AFTER MR. WETZLER, IT'LL BE MS. AARON GALLEGOS REED.

UM, GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS TOM WETZLER.

I LIVE AT 1311 SLY AVENUE IN THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD, HIGHLAND PARK AREA.

UH, I FIRST CAME ACROSS, UH, UH, AT A BOARD MEETING FOR THE HIGHLAND PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, GIVING A PRESENTATION BY THE DEVELOPER.

AND AT THE SAME TIME, A LETTER WAS GIVEN TO US BY THE RESIDENTS, SOME OF WHOM YOU'VE JUST HEARD.

I'M ALWAYS EXCITED WHEN I SEE PEOPLE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD GET INVOLVED AND VOLUNTARILY STEP UP, UH, AND TAKE, UH, TAKE ACTION AND CONCERN ABOUT AN ISSUE THAT'S

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IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I'VE ALWAYS BEEN JEALOUS ABOUT PRESERVING THE RESIDENTIAL NATURE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, FROM ENCROACHMENT, ENCROACHMENT, AND TO SEE PEOPLE ORGANIZE THEMSELVES AND TAKE INITIATIVE.

THE WAY, UH, THEY HAVE MAKES ME REAL PROUD OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, THE, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS, IS MENTIONED IS, IS OLDER HOMES, UH, NARROW STREETS IF YOU DRIVE UP THEIR STREET AND AROUND THERE.

THESE ARE BEAUTIFUL HOMES THAT HAVE BEEN MAINTAINED BY THEIR OWNERS OVER THE YEARS AND REPAIRED OVER THE YEARS, A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT OF EACH OF THE HOMEOWNERS THERE, UH, THAT THEY WOULD WISH TO PROTECT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IN MEETING WITH THEM, UH, UH, I'VE ALSO, UH, IT WAS STRESSED TO ME THAT THEY WANT TO MAINTAIN THEIR HOMES, IS THE PLACE THEY LIVE AND IN THE ENVIRONMENT THEY LIVE.

AND THE RESIDENTIAL, UH, SINGLE FAMILY NATURE OF THE AREA.

UH, THE, SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT MIGHT, UH, COME UP, UH, FROM THE PRESENTATION IS THERE WAS SOME VAGUENESS TO ME.

I THINK, I THINK, UH, THE IDEA THAT THE, UH, THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER WOULD NOT RESIDE ON THIS PROPERTY AND WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO, UH, DO HIS DILIGENCE ON HIS, ON THE MAINTAINANCE OF IT, THE, UH, PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CORPORATION AND OR, OR SUCH IS RATHER VAGUE IN HIS PROPOSAL.

I DON'T, I DON'T THINK HE'S THOUGHT IT THROUGH.

ACTUALLY.

UH, ALL OF US IT WAS MENTIONED ARE A BIT OLDER AND WE'VE, WE'VE SEEN A FEW THINGS AND WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THERE ISN'T THE KIND OF MANAGEMENT THAT PROPERTIES LIKE THIS REALLY REQUIRE.

UH, AND THE FACT THAT THERE'S AN ABSENCE OF THE OWNER RESIDENCE IS, IS A REAL, UH, CONCERN.

UH, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, JUST THE, THE EFFECT OF INCREASED POPULATION DENSITY AND TRAFFIC DENSITY AND, YOU KNOW, THE NOISE THAT COMES WITH IT IS A REAL THREAT TO THE, UH, TO THE HOMEOWNERS WHO LIVE RIGHT THERE.

UH, AND I, SO I'M GOING TO, THAT YOU HELP US TO MAINTAIN OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND, UH, AND STICK TO, UH, STICK TO WHAT THE PLAN IS FOR AND HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR DECADES.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU.

NEXT WE HAVE MS. ERIN GAY GALLEGOS REED, AND THEN AFTER HER WILL BE MS. DENISE MARTIN.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

I'M ERIN GALLEGOS REED.

I LIVE AT 1431 STEVES, I AM A MEMBER OF THE HIGHLAND PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, AND I GREW UP RIDING MY BIKE ON ADELE AVENUE.

SO I AM HERE TO PRESENT OR SPEAK TO YOU ON BEHALF OF THE NEIGHBORS WHO COULD NOT ATTEND BECAUSE OF FAMILY FUNERALS WORK.

AND LIKE MY OTHER NEIGHBORS TOLD YOU, UM, I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THEM IN OPPOSITION AGAINST THIS ZONING CHANGE.

OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AS YOU KNOW, OR MAY NOT KNOW, HAS MANY HISTORIC HOMES AS THE NEIGHBORS HAVE SO SAID PREVIOUSLY.

AS SUCH, WE ALSO HAVE AN AGING INFRASTRUCTURE WHICH CANNOT ACCOMMODATE MORE CARS OR POPULATION DENSITY.

THIS HOME IS LOCATED RIGHT BEHIND RIGSBY.

AND LIKE MR. ROHR SAID, BUSES ARE OFTEN DIVERTED AND IT'S VERY NARROW.

UH, OFTENTIMES CARS CANNOT PASS WITHOUT GETTING ONTO THE CURB OR GRASS OF THE CORNER HOMES.

MANY CARS PARK ON THE STREET NEAR CORNERS ARE FACING THE WRONG DIRECTION OR ON THE GRASS THIS OFTEN DOES NOT GET TICKETED OR SIGHTED.

SO THIS PRESENTS A PUBLIC SAFETY HAZARD.

MY CONCERN FOR THIS LIES WITH OUR A, OUR AGING POPULATION AS WELL AS THE YOUNG KIDS WHO STILL RIDE BIKES IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

I'M ALSO CONCERNED TO SEE THE ZONING CHANGE SO EASILY.

LIKE PREVIOUSLY STATED, THIS HAS BEEN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

WE HAVE AN INFLUX OF INVESTORS BUYING HOMES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEY DO NOT LIVE IN THEM ONCE THEY'RE RENOVATED.

LANDLORDS OFTEN DO NOT CHECK FOR VIOLATIONS, NOR DO THEY SEE THEM LIKE NEIGHBORS WOULD SEE ON A DAILY BASIS.

SO WE HAVE SEVERAL ABANDONED PROPERTIES THERE ALREADY RIFE WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT VIOLATIONS, WHICH IS ANOTHER PUBLIC SAFETY HAZARD TO OUR NEIGHBORS.

RESIDENT NEIGHBORS SHOULD NOT BE BURDENED TO ACCOMMODATE INVESTORS WHO DON'T LIVE ON THE PROPERTIES THAT THEY PURCHASE.

I URGE YOU TO PLEASE PUT SAFETY OF OUR NEIGHBORS AND THE WELLBEING OF HIGHLAND PARK NEIGHBORHOODS AND OUR NEIGHBORS BEFORE BUSINESS INTEREST AND OPPOSE THE REQUEST AND THE CONTINUANCE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU.

AND THEN LASTLY, WE HAVE MS. DENISE MARTIN.

HELLO.

UH, CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME? MY NAME'S DENISE MARTIN AND I LIVE WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE

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PROPERTY THAT'S GONNA BE, THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

AND, UM, IT'S NOT BIG ENOUGH TO DO THAT WITH WE, WE DON'T NEED MORE PEOPLE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD CROWDING THE STREETS.

ON MY END OF THE STREET, THERE'S A HOUSE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE LIVE THERE.

AND THERE'S SO MANY CARS PARKED ON BOTH SIDES YOU CAN BARELY SEE TO GET OUT ON CLARK.

IT'S REALLY NARROW.

AND, UM, I BOUGHT MY HOUSE IN 2007 THROUGH A GRANT WITH THE CITY, AND I PICKED THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

I USED TO DRIVE AROUND OVER THERE IN THE WEEKEND AND AT NIGHT AND SEE HOW IT WAS.

AND I PICKED THIS, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE IT WAS QUIET AND, UM, THE TAXES WERE GOOD AND I, I LIKE OLD HOUSES.

UM, BUT IN ABOUT THE LAST FIVE YEARS, THINGS HAVE STARTED, REALLY CHANGED.

A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE DIED AND THEY'RE, UH, KIDS JUST, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DECIDE TO DO WITH THEM, BUT, UM, IT'S A, IT'S CHANGED A LOT IN ABOUT THE LAST FIVE YEARS.

SO I WANNA STAY IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND I LIKE IT.

AND IT'S CONVENIENT.

IT'S PRETTY, WE HAVE LOTS OF OAK TREES, BUT I'D REALLY RATHER NOT HAVE A LOT OF EXTRA PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND IT'S NOT 'CAUSE I DON'T LIKE ANYBODY .

IT'S JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE ROOM.

THERE'S NO ROOM.

SO PLEASE, UH, DENY THIS MAN'S REQUEST AND, UH, KEEP OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING NEIGHBORHOOD.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

AND THAT IS IT FOR ITEMS FOR CONTINUANCE.

OKAY.

UM, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION I MOVE TO CONTINUE ITEM SIX, 10 AND 14 TO THE JUNE 20TH MEETING.

ALL RIGHT.

THERE'S A MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

OKAY.

THERE IS A, A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM SIX, 10 AND 14 BY COMMISSIONER BUSANTE.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ.

DISCUSSION, LOOKING LEFT.

COMMISSIONER BUSANTE.

UM, PARTICULARLY WITH RESPECT TO ITEM 10, I DO WANT TO ADDRESS THOSE FOLKS WHO CAME TODAY.

UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO GRANT A CONTINUANCE, HOWEVER, IN MY OPINION, AND I HOPE THAT MANY OF MY COMMISSIONERS AGREE, IT IS IMPORTANT TO GET THE BEST POSSIBLE ARGUMENT FROM ANYONE COMING BEFORE THIS BODY APPLICANT, THOSE WHO ARE OPPOSED TO IT, ET CETERA.

YOU MENTIONED THAT SOME FOLKS WEREN'T ABLE TO COME TODAY.

PERHAPS THEY CAN COME IN TWO WEEKS.

WE'VE HEARD YOUR TESTIMONY, WE APPRECIATE THAT AND WE WILL KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE CONSIDER.

BUT IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE GIVE, GET THE BEST POSSIBLE PRESENTATION HERE SO THAT WE CAN PROVIDE A FAIR AND REASONED REVIEW OF THESE REQUESTS.

SO THIS IS NOT AN EASY PROCESS AND I DON'T THINK IT'S EASY FOR ANYONE WHO SITS UP HERE.

SO THAT IS WHY I MOVED FOR THE CONTINUANCE, AND THAT'S WHY I'M GONNA VOTE IN FOR, IN FAVOR OF IT.

OH, ADDITIONALLY, IF PEOPLE CANNOT ATTEND, PLEASE GIVE THEM THE NUMBER.

STAFF IS HERE TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO YOU SO THAT THEY CAN LEAVE A VOICEMAIL SO THAT WE CAN HEAR THEM.

EVEN IF THEY'RE UNABLE TO TRAVEL HERE AT THE TIME, TYPICALLY GET THOSE IN THE MONDAY BEFORE.

SO IN THIS CASE, BEFORE JUNE 19TH, CALL OVER THE WEEKEND, UH, CALL ON THAT MONDAY.

BUT WE WANT TO HEAR YOUR VOICES.

WE WANT TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION SO WE CAN MAKE THE BEST DECISION POSSIBLE.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? LOOKING LEFT.

LOOKING RIGHT? YES.

COMMISSIONER FUENTES.

UH, THANK YOU.

JUST WANTED TO ECHO WHAT, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, BUSANTE SAID, UH, IT IS VERY VITAL TO GET A FULL PICTURE OF THIS, UH, OF THIS CASE IN, IN REGARDS TO, UH, ITEM 10.

UM, AND AGAIN, I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO IN, UH, VOICE OUT TO THEIR NEIGHBORS, GET THEIR, UH, INPUT, UH, WHETHER IT'S OVER EMAIL, UH, CALLS, UH, THE MORE WE GET ON THIS, THE, UH, MORE CLARITY THAT WE'LL HAVE.

I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE TIME AND EFFORT THAT Y'ALL HAVE PUT INTO IT.

AND IT IS NOT FALLING ON DEAF EARS.

UM, BUT I WILL BE IN FAVOR OF THIS CONTINUANCE.

ALRIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

UH, COMMISSIONER WATSON, ANY COMMENTS? NONE.

OKAY.

OH, COMMISSIONER, WE, SORRY.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

I JUST WANTED TO ECHO MY, UH, FELLOW COMMISSIONER'S, UH, COMMENTS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HAVING YOU COME OUT.

HERE'S NOT A CONVENIENT THING TO COME DOWNTOWN, UH, TO APPEAR BEFORE THIS, UH, COMMISSION.

BUT, UH, YOUR COMMENTS WERE HEARD AND WILL WE REMEMBER THOSE COMMENTS, WHETHER YOU COME BACK NEXT TIME OR NOT, WE WILL REMEMBER THOSE.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THE, THE

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MOTION IS FOR A CONTINUANCE FOR ITEM SIX, 10 AND 14 TO THE JUNE 20TH MEETING.

IF WE COULD HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER BUSANTE.

AYE.

COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES.

COMMISSIONER FUENTES.

AYE.

COMMISSIONER REYES? AYE.

COMMISSIONER, WE AYE.

COMMISSIONER NICKS? YES.

COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES.

COMMISSIONER WATSON.

CHAIR SIPES? YES.

ITEMS PASS FOR CONTINUANCE.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU NEIGHBORS.

AND WE MAY SEE YOU IN TWO WEEKS, SO SORRY.

ALRIGHT, WE WILL BE MOVING NOW ONTO OUR INDIVIDUAL HEARING.

UM, I BELIEVE THE FIRST ITEM, ARE WE DOING ITEM NUMBER TWO? NO, WE'RE DOING ITEM NUMBER ONE.

WE'RE DOING ITEM NUMBER ONE.

NOMINATIONS AND ELECTIONS PLEASE.

ALRIGHT.

YES.

SORRY.

FORGOT ABOUT THAT.

WE DON'T HAVE A PRESENTA.

DO WE HAVE, I FORGET HOW WE DO THIS ON, ON THAT , DO WE JUST TAKE A NOMINATION FOR RIGHT OF INTEREST? EXACTLY.

SO, UM, IT'S AN AS NEEDED COMMITTEE.

P T A C IS AN AS NEEDED COMMITTEE.

UH, THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING CURRENTLY SCHEDULED AND THEY DON'T SEE ANY MAJOR INITIATIVES COMING THIS YEAR.

UM, AND THEN THE U D C WILL NOT BE LOOKED AT AGAIN UNTIL 2027.

SO AGAIN, IT'S, UH, PTAC AS NEEDED AND WE JUST NEED A, UM, ONE PERSON FOR REGULAR BUSINESS AND THEN A, AN ALTERNATE.

ALRIGHT.

AND, UH, REMIND US WHO'S, WHO SERVES ON THAT CURRENTLY? YOU KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS.

OKAY.

YES.

OKAY.

CURRENTLY I SERVE AND WITH, WITH, WELL, NO, I'M, I'M JUST OPEN SO THAT IF SOMEONE, I AM NOT LIKE MARRIED TO THAT COMMITTEE BY ANY CHANCE.

UM, UH, AND THEN, UH, COMMISSIONER BARDOS IS, IS THE ALTERNATE, BUT, UM, I WILL TAKE A NOMINATION.

I'LL, UH, NOMINATE COMMISSIONER SIPES.

OKAY.

UM, ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? NO SECOND FOR COMMISSIONER OR CHAIR SIPES.

EXCUSE ME.

ALRIGHT.

AND THAT'S FINE.

IT'S FINE.

IT, IT, IT IS, IT IT ACTUALLY IS IT, IT'S REALLY ENJOYABLE HALF OF THE TIME SOMETIMES WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE, OH, WE'RE GONNA EXTEND THIS ROAD OVER HERE.

AND IT'S LIKE, OKAY, LET'S GET ONTO SOME, SOME OF THE MORE INTERESTING PARTS OF IT.

BUT, BUT IT IS INTERESTING TO SEE.

UM, ALRIGHT, SO DO WE JUST VOTE? YES.

IT'S A JUST A ROLL CALL.

NOT A ROLL CALL VOTE.

IT CAN BE BY ACCLIMATION, SO.

ALRIGHT.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT AGAIN.

UM, AND I WILL TAKE NOMINATION FOR AN ALTERNATE.

I NOMINATE COMMISSIONER RE BUTS.

ALL RIGHT, EXCELLENT.

COMMISSIONER RE BUTS, DO YOU ACCEPT? ALRIGHT, GREAT.

IF WE COULD HAVE A ALL IN FAVOR OF COMMISSIONER RE BUTS AS THE ALTERNATE.

WE NEED A SECOND FIRST.

OH, SORRY, SECOND.

OH, THAT WAS COMMISSIONER FUENTES.

COMMISSIONER FUENTES.

YEP.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

ALRIGHT.

CONGRATULATIONS COMMISSIONER A BARTOS.

THANK YOU ALL.

VERY GOOD.

WE'RE READY FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO.

ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER TWO, PLEASE GIVE US ONE SECOND.

WE ARE PULLING DOUBLE DUTY WITH THE CUSTOMERS IN THE, IN THE LOBBY.

NO PROBLEM.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

CAMERON BLACKMAN ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

ITEM NUMBER TWO IS GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 12,000 BLOCK OF PETITE STREET AND IS A REQUEST TO GO FROM R SIX TO MF 25 R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY TO MF 25 MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICT WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.

THERE WERE 28 NOTICES SENT ONE IN FAVOR, THREE OPPOSED AND NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.

STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.

THE CURRENT R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.

THE PROPOSED MF 25 MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT IS ALSO APPROPRIATE.

THERE ARE A MIX OF ZONING DESIGNATIONS IN PROXIMITY TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, WHICH ACCOMMODATE MEDIUM TO HIGH COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL INTENSITY.

ADDITIONALLY, THE REQUEST ALIGNS WITH THE GOALS OF THE

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STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN SHIP, WHICH ENCOURAGE THE DEVELOPMENT OF HOUSING TO ACCOMMODATE THE CITY'S GROWING POPULATION.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE.

OH, THANK YOU.

MY GOSH.

SAHA, IF WE COULD HAVE YOUR PRESENTATION FIRST PLEASE.

MIKE ESCALANTE SAS FOR PROTECTION AND EVALUATION.

UH, WE REVIEWED THE ZONING APPLICATION FOR A TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT LOCATED NEAR THE VANCE JACKSON ROAD AND EBNER ROAD INTERSECTION.

THE SITE IS, THE SITE IS SIX ACRES, HOWEVER, A PORTION OF THE SITE, 5.67 ACRES, LIES IN THE RECHARGE ZONE WITH THE REMAINING 0.33 TENTHS OF AN ACRE IN THE TRANSITION ZONE.

NO PORT, NO PORTION OF THE SITE IS IN THE FLOOD PLAIN AND NO SENSITIVE FEATURES WERE OBSERVED ON SITE NOR NOTED ON FILE.

THE SAWS RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH ALL THE ENVIRONMENTAL RECOMMENDATIONS WITHIN THE REPORT TO INCLUDE 50% PREVIOUS COVER FOR THE 5.67 TENTHS OF AN ACRE PORTION OF THE SITE IN THE RECHARGE ZONE.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

NOW IF WE COULD HAVE PATRICK.

THANK YOU.

THERE WE GO.

GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.

PATRICK CHRISTENSEN, THREE 10 SOUTH ST.

MARY'S SUITE, SUITE 2,700.

I'VE GOT A LITTLE POWERPOINT.

UM, DO WE NOT HAVE A POINTER? UH, SO YES, THE, THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED R SIX, WE'RE ASKING FOR MF 25.

UM, WHAT'S INTERESTING IS THIS PROPERTY WAS PLATTED AND THIS IS THE, THE CORE OF IT RIGHT HERE.

IT WAS PLATTED IN THE EARLY 1950S.

AND NOTHING HAS EVER BEEN DONE.

I MEAN, THERE'S BASICALLY, DO I ADJUST THE NEXT SLIDE? AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE BOUNDARIES OF WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR THE REZONING.

THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

OKAY, SO THIS IS THE ORIGINAL PLAT, UM, BASICALLY PETITE, PETITE STREET HERE WAS NEVER BUILT.

THERE'S, THERE'S NO WATER LINES, THERE'S NO SEWER LINES.

WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT INFRASTRUCTURE WORK WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO TO TRY TO DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

AND THAT'S THE BOUNDARIES OF WHAT WE'RE REZONING NEXT.

AND, AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, YOU KNOW, IN SPEAKING WITH, WITH DISTRICT EIGHT AND SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT THE TRAFFIC THAT WOULD BE GENERATED BY AN MF 25 REZONING.

SO WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS TO LIMIT THE ENTIRE PROPERTY TO SENIORS.

WE WILL DO THAT THROUGH A DEEDED RESTRICTION.

AND AS YOU KNOW, UM, SENIOR LIVING HAS A FRACTION OF THE TRAFFIC THAT A FAMILY ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT WOULD HAVE.

SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS INDEPENDENT LIVING, YOU KNOW, NOT A NURSING HOME.

INDEPENDENT LIVING IS BASICALLY JUST APARTMENTS THAT ARE LIMITED TO SENIORS ONLY.

THEY WILL HAVE COMMUNAL MEALS IF THE SENIORS WANT THEM, BUT EVERY SENIOR WILL HAVE THEIR OWN KITCHEN IN EACH UNIT.

AND THEY'LL HAVE THINGS LIKE TRIPS TO H E B AND LITTLE HAPPY HOURS, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR THE SENIORS.

BUT THE GOAL IS KIND OF, THEY WOULD MAYBE START IN A TWO STORY TOWN HOME AND WE WILL ALSO LIMIT THE HEIGHT TO TWO STORIES IN THE PERIPHERY AND THREE STORIES IN THE INTERIOR.

UM, THEY START OUT IN A TWO STORY TOWN HOME STYLE UNIT.

THEN IF THEY HAVE ISSUES GOING UP AND DOWN THE STAIRS, THEY CAN MOVE INTO THE THREE STORY WHERE WE'LL HAVE ELEVATORS AND THEY CAN GO UP AND DOWN WITHOUT HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT GOING UP AND DOWN ESCALATORS.

UM, NEXT SLIDE.

AND THIS IS KIND OF WHAT THE, THE TOWN HOMES ARE PROPOSED TO LOOK LIKE NEXT.

AND THIS WOULD BE THE, THE SENIOR LIVING WITH THE ELEVATOR BUILDING.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S MY PRESENTATION.

UM, SO AS THE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL, THERE'S A DIRE NEED FOR SENIOR LIVING IN DISTRICT EIGHT.

THAT'S WHY WE'VE MADE THIS MODIFICATION.

I KNOW DEEDED RESTRICT RESTRICTIONS AREN'T IN THE PARAMETERS OF WHAT YOU REVIEW, BUT INTERESTINGLY, WHEN THEY DEVELOPED WOODLAWN MANOR WOOD LAND MANOR BACK IN THE EARLY FIFTIES, THEY DID PUT A DEED RESTRICTION ON THE PROPERTY, BUT THEY EXPIRED IN 1997.

AND THIS PROPERTY OWNER WOULD HAVE TO AGREE TO EXTEND THOSE RESTRICTIONS IF THAT EVER CAME UP.

SO WE WOULDN'T NOT BE SPENDING ALL THIS TIME, MONEY, AND EFFORT IF WE THOUGHT THAT THERE WAS A DEEDED RESTRICTION PROHIBITING US FROM DEVELOPING THE PROPERTY.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, WE'LL HAVE TO REPL THE PROPERTY, SO EVERYTHING WHEN IT COMES TO DRAINAGE TREES, UM, TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, ROUGH PROPORTIONALITY, ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS, WE'LL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH ALL OF THAT.

THERE'S NO GRANDFATHERING OR VESTED RIGHTS FOR THIS PROPERTY.

SO THAT'S MY PRESENTATION.

I WOULD ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE AND I'D LIKE JUST A SMALL REBUTTAL TIME IF NECESSARY.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE ANY, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT? WE DO.

WE HAVE, UM, TWO SPEAKERS.

FIRST WE HAVE MR. CHRIS ALBRIGHT, AND I APOLOGIZE IF I MASSACRED YOUR LAST NAME.

CHRIS.

YES, GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME'S CHRIS RECH.

MY WIFE AND I HAVE LIVED AT THE 12,000 BLOCK OF PEBBLE STREET FOR 40 PLUS YEARS.

IT IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

UM, I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT WE'RE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS DEVELOPMENT FOR ONE REASON AND ONE REASON ONLY LIES.

AND WE BASE THIS O OPPOSITION

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ON THE FACT THAT FOR THE PAST 21 YEARS, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT HAS, UH, PRETTY MUCH SURROUNDED US IN, NOT ONLY BEHIND US, BUT BETWEEN US AND EBNER ROAD AND ADJACENT TO US, UH, WITH A DOCTOR'S OFFICE, A DENTIST'S OFFICE, AND A STRIP CENTER.

ALL OF WHICH WE WERE PROMISED TO HAVE PRIVACY FENCING BETWEEN THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND THE RESIDENTIAL BEHIND THEM, WHICH INCLUDES US, UH, AS A PARTITION, WE GOT LIED TO.

UM, THEY PROMISED US ENTRANCE ON EBNER ROAD ONLY.

WE WERE LIED TO.

UH, THERE ARE ENTRANCES OFF OF MOONLIGHT WAY TO THE DOCTOR AND THE DENTIST.

THERE'S TRAFFIC ALL DAY LONG AT NIGHT.

THE LAB PEOPLE COME INTO THE DOCTOR'S OFFICE AND SHINE THEIR BRIGHT LIGHTS IN OUR LIVING ROOM, UH, BECAUSE THERE'S NO FENCE, BECAUSE WE LIED TO AND WE BELIEVED THEM.

UM, THIS MAKES ME VERY SKEPTICAL AT ANYTHING THESE DEVELOPERS WANNA DO.

OKAY.

I HAVE A HARD TIME, UH, LOOKING AT INFORMATION THAT I GET AND SAYING, WELL, THIS IS THE WAY IT'S GONNA BE.

SO WHATEVER THEY DECIDE TO DO, UH, I'M NOT GONNA BELIEVE HIM.

UM, THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS.

AND WE STAND IN OPPOSITION.

THANKS.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

AND SECOND, WE HAVE MS. PAM RECK.

HI, MY NAME IS PAM RECHT.

I LIVE AT 1 2 3 0 7 PEBBLE STREET.

FIRST OFF, THIS, UM, COMPANY OR DEVELOPER HAS CHANGED THIS THREE TIMES ALREADY FROM APARTMENTS, UM, TO TOWN HOMES AND NOW TO SENIOR LIVING, WHICH I'D RATHER HAVE A SENIOR LIVING.

HOWEVER, TWO STORY DOESN'T SEEM TO BE VERY FEASIBLE FOR SENIORS.

UM, AND MUCH LESS A THREE STORY, WHICH THEY'RE PROPOSING THAT AS WELL IN THE CENTER.

UM, THE ADDITIONAL CARS THAT THAT'S GONNA BRING, WE'VE GOT TWO OUTLETS AND RIGHT AT THE END OF OUR STREET, UM, IF YOU CAN BRING UP MOONLIGHT AND PEBBLE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN, I WAS GONNA SAY IT, THE APARTMENTS ARE EXCESS OR EXIT ONLY, WHICH THEY COME FLYING DOWN THAT STREET.

AND IF THEY'RE COMING OUT MOONLIGHT WAY.

AND I I ALSO HEARING THEY'RE WANTING TO PROPOSE TO CLOSE PEBBLE STREET.

NOW IF THAT'S THE CASE, IF THEY WENT UP PEBBLE, IF THEY LEFT PEBBLE WHERE IT IS, IT'S A PAPER STREET AS THEY, THEY DEEMED IT, UM, THERE WOULD BE AT LEAST ANOTHER EXIT VENUE, WHICH THEY'RE SAYING THEY WANT TO CLOSE.

PEBBLE STREET, I'M SORRY, PETITE.

UM, LEMME SEE.

THE, UH, DEEDED RESTRICTIONS FROM WHAT I'M TOLD BY THE CITY MANAGER, ARE STILL IN FORCE.

THEY WERE REINSTATED IN 2012 BY MYSELF.

AND AS THE DEEDED RESTRICTIONS SHOW THAT ANY ONE, UM, PERSON IN WOODLAND MANOR CAN REINSTATE THOSE RESTRICTIONS AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT EDITED THE ORIGINAL DEEDED RESTRICTIONS, WHICH I DID.

AND SO IN THAT RESPECT, I WOULD LIKE Y'ALL TO UPHOLD AGAIN, LIKE MY HUSBAND STATED, EVERYTHING THAT WAS TOLD TO US THAT THROUGH THE ZONING COMMISSION, THAT IT WOULD ONLY BE HENER FRONTAGE ONLY FOR THESE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.

YET THEY CAME THREE LOTS BACK AFTER THEY PURCHASED THE LAND AND BUILT WHERE THEY WANTED TO.

AND NOTHING WAS EVER DONE BY THE CITY.

THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, COMPLIANCES ABOUT ALL THESE THINGS, THE IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE.

AND AS FAR AS I'VE BEEN TOLD OVER THE 40 SOMETHING YEARS I'VE LIVED, THERE WE'RE COMPLETELY, ALL OF IT IS OVER THE EDWARDS RECHARGE ZONE, NOT JUST A PERCENTAGE.

UM, I'M GONNA SAY, SO IF THAT'S CHANGED, I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW, HOW THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN CHANGED WHERE, WHERE IT'S OVER.

UH, THE TWO STORY AND THREE STORY HOMES JUST SEEM KIND OF LUDICROUS FOR OLDER PEOPLE.

MOST OF THEM ARE MOVING OUT OF, AND THIS IS FROM YES, MY MOTHER AND OTHER ELDERLY PEOPLE I KNOW ARE GETTING OUTTA TWO STORY HOMES AND GOING INTO SINGLE STORY, MUCH LESS GOING, MOVING IN, MOVING OUT OF A TWO STORY INTO ANOTHER TWO STORY OR A THREE STORY.

IT'S JUST KIND OF NOT WORKED.

UM, WE'RE TOTALLY OPPOSED TO IT.

THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE THAT HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE, THEY'RE EITHER OUTTA STATE OR WHATEVER THAT IT CANNOT, UM, BE HERE AND STUFF.

BUT IF YOU NEED, I GUESS YOU CAN DO THE EMAILS.

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IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY.

THANK YOU.

RIGHT, THANK YOU.

AND THAT'S IT FOR SPEAKERS FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO.

ALRIGHT.

UM, A MR. CHAIRMAN.

OH YES.

WHAT WERE THE ADDRESSES AGAIN FOR THE, UH, LAST TWO SPEAKERS? THE AL BRICKS, THEY LIVE AT 1 2 3 0 7 PEBBLE STREET.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

YES.

COMMERS, JUST SOME CLARIFICATION POINTS.

SO PETITE STREET IS THE STREET THAT WE'VE SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION TO CLOSE.

AND THE REALITY IS, THE REASON WHY THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN UNDEVELOPED FOR THE LAST 70 YEARS IS IF YOU'RE GONNA DEVELOP THIS FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BUILD PETITE STREET.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BRING WATER AND SEWER LINES IN ANYWAYS.

AND WITHOUT SOME SORT OF DENSITY ON THIS PROPERTY, IT'S JUST NOT ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE.

THAT'S WHY THE PROPERTY SAT VACANT FOR 70 YEARS.

UM, WE ARE PROPOSING THE TWO STORIES ON THE PER PERIPHERY OF THE PROPERTY FOR SENIORS THAT CAN STILL WALK UP AND DOWNSTAIRS.

THE THREE STORY BUILDING WILL NOT BE THREE STORY APARTMENTS.

THERE'LL BE ONE STORY APARTMENTS WITH AN ELEVATOR TO EACH FLOOR.

UM, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.

WE DID START WITH, YOU KNOW, THINKING ABOUT MAYBE DOING A MORE DENSE APARTMENT STYLE PROJECT, BUT IN TALKING TO THE COUNCIL OFFICE AND TALKING TO SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS, WE REALIZED THAT WAS PROBABLY TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR ON THIS SITE.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'VE DECIDED TO ONLY ASK FOR MF 25 AND TO RESTRICT IT TO SENIORS, WHICH WILL SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.

SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THIS IS A DISTRICT EIGHT CASE, SO TO YOU.

COMMISSIONER CORTEZ ORTIZ FOR QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR.

UM, OKAY, LET ME SEE.

I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR CITY STAFF.

UM, LET'S SEE.

WITH THE APPLICANT CHANGING THE ZONING FROM R SIX TO MF 25, WOULD THEY NEED A PLAN AMENDMENT, UH, CHANGE? UM, YES, THEY ARE GOING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON JUNE 14TH, BUT IF THEY STAY, BUT IF THEY WOULD STAY WITH AN MF EIGHT, LET'S SAY THEY CHANGE IT TO AN MF 18 BEING A SMALLER UNIT, SMALLER DENSITY, WOULD THEY NEED THAT PLAN AMENDMENT CHANGE? NO, THEY WOULD NOT.

OKAY.

AND THEN WITH THE MF 18, THEY WOULD STAY SUBURBAN TIER, RIGHT? IT WOULDN'T GO GENERAL TIER, CORRECT? CORRECT.

THANK YOU.

I ACTUALLY HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR MR. CHRISTENSEN, APPLICANT COMMISSIONER.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

TRYING TO HOLD THIS DOWN HERE.

GET ALL MY NOTES.

THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF, THE, ARE YOU GONNA HAVE, I GUESS, TRANSPORTATION ON SITE FOR THE SENIOR LIVING? WHAT THEY'LL DO, WHAT THESE UH, FACILITIES DO IS THEY'LL HAVE WEEKLY TRIPS TO H E B, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT.

MAYBE WEEKLY TRIPS TO A SHOPPING MALL, SHOPPING CENTER TYPE OF THING.

UM, AND THEN MAYBE, YOU KNOW, UH, TRIPS TO HOSPITAL COMPLEXES, THINGS LIKE THAT.

THE MEDICAL CENTER, YOU KNOW, THIS IS VERY CLOSE TO THE MEDICAL CENTER, WHICH IS NICE.

BUT YES, THEY WILL WORK WITH RESIDENTS FOR THAT.

AND THEN THE ENTRANCES, THERE'S, THEY HAVE TO BE, I GUESS THE WAY THE DEVELOPMENT'S GONNA BE COMING, IT'S NOT GONNA BE COMING OFF HENER, RIGHT? IT HAS TO BE COMING OFF THE, THE SMALLER STREETS THAT ARE AROUND COR CORRECT.

I MEAN THIS WHOLE BLOCK, WE DON'T OWN ANY PROPERTY THERE.

SO THERE'S, THERE'S HONEYCOMB STREET AND THERE'S MOONLIGHT WAY AND WE WILL CREATE ACCESS TO BOTH OF THOSE.

SO WE'LL ACTUALLY HAVE TWO ENTRANCES TO EBNER.

OKAY.

AND THEN AS FAR AS, UH, ON SITE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE, I GUESS WHAT YOU HAVE NURSES AND NURSES AGE FOR THESE PEOPLE LIVING? NO, THESE ARE, THESE ARE INDEPENDENT LIVING, SO THEY WILL HAVE STAFF, YOU KNOW, MANAGERS THAT ARE OUT THAT ARE THERE AND THEY WILL HAVE A KITCHEN.

SO WHAT THEY DO NORMALLY DO IS HAVE THREE MEALS A DAY AND, AND RESIDENTS GET TO PICK TWO MEALS A DAY THAT THEY CAN HAVE.

AND THEN THEY ALSO HAVE, YOU KNOW, GAMES AND ACTIVITIES AND THEY HAVE HAPPY HOURS.

UM, BUT IT'S NOT A NURSING HOME WHERE SOMEONE'S CHECKING ON YOU.

I MEAN, THEY DO, IF THEY HAVEN'T SEEN YOU IN A COUPLE DAYS, THEY'LL COME KNOCK ON YOUR DOOR TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.

BUT, BUT, UM, IT'S INDEPENDENT LIVING, SO IT'S JUST A SMALLER APARTMENT DESIGNATED FOR SENIORS.

OKAY.

AND I GUESS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT MR. MS. OBR HAD, UM, REGARDING THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF, UM, WOULD THERE BE, I GUESS, PRIVACY FENCES OR SOMETHING SINCE HIS PROPERTY'S LYING ACROSS THE STREET FROM HIS? WELL, SO WE KINDA HAVE, THE WAY WE HAVE IT ON THE PERIPHERY, LIKE ON, ON UH, PEBBLE STREET HERE, WE HAVE TOWN HOMES WITH, WITH DRIVEWAYS THAT ACTUALLY GO OUT TO PEBBLE STREET.

UM, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, BUT THERE WILL BE SECURITY FENCING LIKE WITHIN THE INTERIOR.

SO THE THREE STORY BUILDING, I MEAN, SOMEONE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO JUST WALK IN THERE WITHOUT HAVING A, A, MAKING IT THROUGH A SECURITY GATE.

OKAY.

LET ME SEE.

THANK YOU MR. CHRISTENSEN.

I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND HAND IT OVER TO MY, UM, COMMISSIONERS TO SEE IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

QUESTIONS COMMERS ON MY LEFT.

COMMISSIONER BUS MONTE.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

UM, SO I'M PRETTY SURE I'VE SEEN THE BROOK BEFORE STAFF.

DO YOU RECALL THE CASES THAT WERE IN THIS AREA THAT THEY MIGHT BE REFERRING TO? I, I BELIEVE THEY WERE AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.

OKAY.

AND THE CASE GOT, UH, CONTINUED.

OKAY.

BUT AS FAR AS PREVIOUS CASES IN THIS AREA, UM, I KNOW THAT IN THE TIME I'VE BEEN ON THE COMMISSION WE

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HAVE SEEN THEM, BUT YOU CAN, I, I CAN'T RECALL PERSONALLY SIR.

I'M SORRY.

.

ALRIGHT.

PATRICK, DO YOU HAVE ANY SENSE OF THAT? SORRY, MR. CHRISTENSEN, THERE'S A, A DONALD ORION DEVELOPMENT, UM, OUT HERE ON EBNER, UM, THAT HE WORKED ON.

I BELIEVE HE HAD TO DO HIS ZONING CHANGE.

BELIEVE HE DID A CONDITIONAL DISTRICT FOR THAT.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

CAN YOU GO AHEAD AND PULL UP YOUR SITE PLAN? THERE YOU GO, COMMISSIONER.

OKAY.

SO YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE WOULD BE TWO EXITS FROM THIS PROPERTY, ONE ON THE PEBBLE LANE.

YES.

AND THIS JUST, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'RE KIND OF GOING BACK AND FORTH ON THAT.

I MEAN, WE, WE DEFINITELY HAVE ACCESS TO PEBBLE LANE, BUT WE'RE THINKING, YOU KNOW, IN THE INTEREST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO, TO TRY TO DISPERSE AS MUCH TRAFFIC AS WE COULD, HAVING A GATE ON BOTH MOONLIGHT MOONLIGHT AND PEBBLE PETITE AVENUE.

I'M SORRY.

UM, YEAH, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO KEEP OUR OPTIONS OPEN THERE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE CAN DO.

AND IT'S GONNA HAVE A LOT, A LOT OF IT'S GONNA HAVE TO DO WITH WHEN WE REPL THE PROPERTY, WHAT THE TRAFFIC CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEERS WANT US TO DO.

AND STAFF, BECAUSE THIS IS A STRAIGHT UP MF 25 REZONING, THERE'S NO SITE PLAN REQUIRED IN THIS CASE.

THEY WOULD NOT BE BOUND TO IT.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU.

NO FURTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? FEDERAL COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT, NONE COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.

SEEING NONE.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

OH, YES.

UH, YES.

COMMISSIONER.

COMPARED TO THE NUMBER OF TRIP GENERATORS THAT ARE PRESENT IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, HOW MUCH, HOW MANY TRIPS DO YOU SEE? UH, YOU CAN JUST GIMME A ROUGH, UH, NOT THE NUMBER OF TRIPS VERSUS WHAT'S, WHAT'S THERE TODAY.

CORRECT.

, BECAUSE, UH, MY SECOND QUESTION IS HUBNER RIGHT NOW IS, IS TRYING TO ACCESS I 10 AND IT GETS BACKED UP AT VANCE JACKSON.

MM-HMM.

, HOW DIFFICULT IS IT TO GET IN AND OUT OF HONEYCOMB AND MOONLIGHT, ESPECIALLY FOR, UH, FIRST RESPONDERS? WE'RE, WE'RE PRETTY FAR BACK FROM, FROM I 10.

I MEAN, PROBABLY THREE.

VANCE JACKSON IS ALMOST A MILE.

I MEAN, VANCE JACKSON IS DOWN THE HILL AND UP, SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT FURTHER TOO.

UM, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S EVER CARS BACKED UP IN FRONT OF MOONLIGHT OR PETITE THAT WOULD STOP US FROM GETTING IN AND OUT OF THE SITE.

UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH WHATEVER, WHEN WE REPLAY IT.

WHATEVER KIND OF TRAFFIC REQUIREMENTS THE CITY REQUIRES, WE'LL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THAT.

I MEAN, RIGHT NOW IT'S GENERATING NO TRAFFIC AT ALL.

UM, I DO BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, IF WE TRY TO DO A FAMILY DEVELOPMENT, THAT MIGHT BE A TRAFFIC ISSUE.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE DECIDED TO JUST LIMIT IT TO SENIORS.

AND WHAT WE PROMISED THE, THE COUNCIL OFFICE IS BEFORE WE GO TO COUNCIL, WE WOULD RECORD A RESTRICTION THAT WOULD LIMIT IT TO SENIORS SO THAT HE WOULD BE COMFORTABLE THAT WE WOULDN'T CHANGE OUR MINDS IN THE FUTURE.

IS THAT IT FOR YOUR QUESTIONS? OKAY.

THANKS.

UH, COMMISSIONER WATSON, ANY QUESTIONS? NONE.

ALRIGHT.

UH, BACK TO YOU COMMISSIONER ORTIZ FOR POSSIBLE MOTION.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

ACTUALLY, I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.

MR. CHRISTENSEN, WOULD YOUR APPLICANT BE, WOULD CONSIDER CHANGING THE AMENDMENT TO MF 18 INSTEAD OF AN MF 25? JUST FOR THE FACT THAT THERE'S LESS DENSITY, SMALLER UNITS OR LESS UNITS INSTEAD OF, I JUST CAN'T WRAP MY HEAD AROUND THE 132 UNITS BEING IN THAT AREA.

UNDERSTOOD.

COMMISSIONER, WE CAN'T, IF, IF WE'RE GONNA LIMIT IT TO MF 18, THEN WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE FAMILIES.

UM, THAT'S JUST THE WAY WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO IT.

IF IT'S MF 25, WE WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE WILLING TO LIMIT IT TO SENIORS, WHICH I THINK WOULD EVEN REDUCE TRAFFIC MORE THAN MF 18 WITH FAMILIES MF 18 FOR SENIORS, IT'S JUST NOT ENOUGH.

NOT ENOUGH DENSITY.

WE'RE REALLY STUCK IN A, WE WE GOTTA HAVE AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, THE BUILDING IN THE CENTER, LIKE I SAID, WITH THE EXTRA UNITS, LIKE IT'S, IT SHOWS ON THE SITE PLAN SO THAT, THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, PURCHASE THE STREET FROM THE CITY, BRING THE WATER AND THE SEWER LINES IN, DO THAT KIND OF INFRASTRUCTURE.

, I MEAN IT, OUR, OUR KIND OF WHAT WE WERE, WE, WE, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE EXTRA UNITS AND LIMIT IT FOR SENIORS.

WE'VE BEEN TOLD THERE'S A, A NEED FOR SENIORS WITHIN DISTRICT EIGHT.

SO WE WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO FULFILL THAT NEED.

BUT IF IT'S GONNA BE GONNA BE M F 18, THEN WE'RE, WE'RE, WE REALLY GOTTA KEEP IT OPEN FOR, FOR FAMILIES.

THANK YOU THOUGH.

OKAY.

I AM, I HAVE NO MORE QUESTIONS.

ALRIGHT.

MOTION.

ALRIGHT.

ANY FOR, UH, CHANGE? OKAY.

I WANNA THANK SAS AND OF COURSE MR. MS. ALBRIGHT FOR COMING IN AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT.

THIS IS KIND OF A DIFFICULT CASE FOR ME.

UM, I WALKED THE PROPERTY AS WELL.

I, THE, THE STREETS SURROUNDING THIS PROPERTY ARE SMALL, ALMOST VERY ONE OF THE STREETS.

I THINK IT'S PEBBLE AND PETITE ARE ALMOST RURAL.

I MEAN, I JUST CAN'T SEE.

AND I THINK I SAW YOUR PROPERTY AS WELL.

I KNOW THE DOCTOR, DR.

GARZA, THAT'S ACROSS THE STREET, SO I KNOW THE AREA.

UM, BUT YEAH, I JUST CAN'T WRAP MY HEAD AROUND 132 UNITS BEING IN THAT AREA.

REGARDLESS OF IT'S SENIOR LIVING.

THERE'S GONNA BE TRAFFIC, THERE'S GONNA BE TRANSPORTATION,

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THERE'S GONNA BE CARS COMING THROUGH TO PICK THEM UP REGARDLESS.

SO I JUST SEE THAT.

UM, SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I JUST CAN'T SUPPORT THE, UH, MF 25 TODAY.

SO I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND RECOMMEND DENIAL ON MF 25.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

MOTION IS FOR DENIAL.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

OKAY.

A MOTION IS FOR DENIAL BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES DISCUSSION FROM COMMISSIONERS LOOKING LEFT.

I JUST, ACTUALLY I DO, I JUST FOR THE RECORD, I DO SUPPORT THE, UH, ASSISTED LIVING.

I KNOW WE NEED IT IN THE AREA.

I DO, I JUST, JUST CANNOT SEE IT IN THIS AND JUST MAKE THE AREA TOO DENSE AND I JUST CANNOT SEE IT BEING FAVORABLE FOR THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA AND ALSO EVEN THE SENIOR LIVING THAT ARE GONNA BE COMING OUT OF THIS DE DEVELOPMENT.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

UH, COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE, DID YOU HAVE COMMENT? YEAH, I THINK SO.

I'M GOING TO, UH, OPPOSE RESPECTIVELY THIS MOTION.

I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, A CONTINUANCE MIGHT BE A POSSIBILITY HERE TO TRY TO FIND OTHER OPTIONS OR, YOU KNOW, SOME OTHER POSSIBILITY.

BUT I THINK DENIAL IS A LITTLE STRONG AT THIS TIME AND SO I WILL RESPECTFULLY, UH, NOT SUPPORT THE MOTION.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, AS COMMISSIONER ORTIZ POINTED OUT, SENIOR LIVING IS A GREAT NEED IN OUR CITY AND THE COUNTRY MORE BROADLY.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK A OUTRIGHT DENIAL IS A LITTLE PREMATURE.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? NONE.

COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.

UM, COMMISSIONER WATSON, ANY COMMENTS? NONE.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, I WILL ECHO BOTH OF Y'ALL'S COMMENTS.

UM, IT IS A DIFFICULT CASE AND, UM, YEAH, NO, THAT, THAT, THAT'S ABOUT IT.

UM, IF WE COULD HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.

I, COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? NO.

COMMISSIONER ENTENTES? NO.

COMMISSIONER REYES.

WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.

THE MOTION IS FOR, THE MOTION IS FOR DENIAL.

SO I CAN WE RETRACT MY STATEMENT? YES, CAN.

THERE WE GO.

OKAY.

AND COMMISSIONER FUENTES.

AYE.

COMMISSIONER REYES? AYE.

COMMISSIONER, WE NO.

COMMISSIONER BARROS? UH, NO.

COMMISSIONER NICKS? YES.

COMMISSIONER BUSANTE? NO.

COMMISSIONER WATSON.

CHAIR SIPES, I AM GOING TO VOTE.

UM, NO.

COMMISSIONER WATSON, WE NEED YOU TO VOCALIZE IF POSSIBLE COMMISSIONER, IF YOU WANNA TRY AGAIN.

WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.

YES, YES.

WE, WE RECORDED YOUR VOTE.

THANK YOU.

ITEM FAILS.

ALRIGHT, SO THE ITEM HAS FAILED.

UM, SO IS THERE A MOTION FOR A, FOR RECONSIDERATION? I MOVE TO RECONSIDER.

OKAY.

MOTION TO RECONSIDER BY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

SECOND.

THEN, COMMISSIONER, WE BEAT YOU TOO.

I PARS.

UM, ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HAVE A ROLL CALL.

VOTE ON A MOTION TO RECONSIDER, PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER BUSANTE.

AYE.

COMMISSIONER, WE AYE.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER FUENTES.

AYE.

COMMISSIONER REYES? AYE.

COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? NO.

COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES.

COMMISSIONER NICKS? YES.

COMMISSIONER WATSON.

COMMISSIONER WATSON, IT IS THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER CHAIR.

SIPES.

YES.

ALL RIGHT.

THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR AN ALTERNATE MOTION.

I MOVE, UH, TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM.

ITEM NUMBER TWO TO THE JUNE 20TH MEETING.

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ALRIGHT, MOTIONS FOR A CONTINUANCE TO THE JUNE 20TH MEETING.

UM, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

OKAY.

SECOND.

BY COMMISSIONER, WE DISCUSSION LOOKING LEFT, LOOKING RIGHT.

UH, COMMISSIONER WATSON DISCUSSION? PROBABLY NOT.

OKAY.

UM, , I KNOW IT, IT DOES APPEAR TO BE DIFFICULT.

UM, AND, AND ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I WAS THE NO VOTE ON THE, THE PREVIOUS MOTION WAS BECAUSE, UH, COMMISSIONER BUSTA MONTE, I THOUGHT MADE A GOOD CASE FOR A CONTINUANCE THAT, THAT IT'S, THAT AN OUTRIGHT NO VOTE WAS PROBABLY INAPPROPRIATE, BUT AN OUTRIGHT YES VOTE WOULD ALSO BE INAPPROPRIATE.

SO PERHAPS IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS SOME COMPROMISES CAN BE MADE.

UM, AND WITH THAT, IF WE COULD HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER BUSANTE.

AYE.

COMMISSIONER, WE AYE.

COMMISSIONER FUENTES? AYE.

COMMISSIONER REYES? AYE.

COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES.

COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES.

COMMISSIONER NICKS? YES.

COMMISSIONER WATSON.

CHAIR SIPES? YES.

ITEM PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

WE'LL SEE YOU IN TWO WEEKS.

IF WE COULD MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR PLEASE.

ALRIGHT.

HELLO.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

UH, MY NAME'S ALFONSO CAMACHO.

I'M A SENIOR PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, LARGE AREA REZONING.

UH, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A RESOLUTION ON UH, SEPTEMBER 3RD, 2020, UH, DIRECTING THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT TO INITIATE A LARGE AREA REZONING TO APPROPRIATE ZONING DISTRICTS FOR PROPERTY LOCATED WITHIN WESTWOOD SQUARE AND EL CHARRO NEIGHBORHOODS.

THE GOAL IS TO ALIGN, ALIGN ZONING WITH THE CURRENT USE OF PROPERTIES IN THE AREA.

THE BOTH, UH, WESTWARD SQUARE AND EL CHARRO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS HAVE BEEN INVOLVED THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.

STAFF HELD THREE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, UH, TO DISCUSS THE PROPOSED CHANGES WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

ADDITIONAL MEETINGS WERE HELD WITH REPRESENTATIVES OF WESTWOOD SQUARE, UH, AS WELL AS, UM, INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS WITH, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS.

STAFF REVIEWED, UH, 2,436 PROPERTIES IN TOTAL.

UH, WITHIN BOTH, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.

UH, STAFF IS PROPOSING 1,299 PROPERTIES.

UM, AND THERE ARE ABOUT, UH, 2,810 NOTICES MAILED, UH, FOUR IN FAVOR.

UH, ZERO OPPOSED, UH, IN BOTH WESTWOOD SQUARE AND EL CHARRO.

NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS ARE IN FAVOR, UH, THEREFORE, UM, STAFF RECOMMENDS, UH, APPROVAL.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC INPUT ON THIS ITEM? WE DO.

WE HAVE, UM, A VOICEMAIL AND THEN WE HAVE SPEAKERS HERE TO SPEAK.

SO WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE FIRST? IT'S A SINGLE VOICEMAIL AND IF WE PLAY THE VOICEMAIL FIRST PLEASE.

OKAY.

HI, MY NAME IS CONSUELO .

THE LAST THREE NUMBERS OF THE CASE NUMBER IS 3 0 4.

I LIVE, MY HUSBAND AND I LIVE AT 1 8 1 4 PASO STREET AND WE ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE REZONING OF OUR PROPERTY AS A RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT AS LONG ALSO OUR LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD.

'CAUSE OUR LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD CONSISTS OF AND AND THESE STREETS FORM A U WITH MEIRA BEING THE, THE MAIN STREET FLORE EO HAS NO HOMES ON IT.

THEY'RE JUST EMPTY LOTS.

BUT THEY ARE CONNECTED TO STREET AND WE WOULD LIKE THAT DESIGNATION FOR THE FLORE SOUL TO ALSO BE A, UH, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT.

AND, UH, MY NAME, MY ADDRESS, MY PHONE NUMBER.

MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 286-8871 OR 2 1 0 4 3 4 9 6 3 1.

THANK YOU.

IF WE COULD HAVE THE SPEAKERS PLEASE.

ALL RIGHT.

FIRST ONE I HAVE IS MR. JAMES MCKNIGHT

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AND THEN TO BE FOLLOWED BY MR. ROGER CABREA.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

JAMES MCKNIGHT OF ORTIZ MCKNIGHT 1 1 2 EAST PEON.

I'M SORRY, MR. MCKNIGHT.

UM, IT LOOKS LIKE MR. GILBERT IS GOING TO BE GIVING SOME OF YOUR TIME TO YOU, SO YOU HAVE SIX MINUTES TO SPEAK.

GREAT.

EVEN BETTER.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MATTHEW? UH, I'M ACTUALLY HERE, UH, ON BEHALF OF ONE PROPERTY OWNER AND IN A RARE POSITION WHERE I'M ACTUALLY OPPOSING A REZONING TODAY.

THIS IS FOR THE MADONNA CENTER LOCATED, WELL, THE PROPERTY HERE IS LOCATED AT 1814 CASTROVILLE ROAD.

DO I HAVE CONTROL ON THIS? I DON'T THINK SO.

I'M SORRY.

OKAY, THANK, THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

OKAY, SO THIS IS, YOU CAN SEE HERE, THIS IS THE MADONNA CENTER LOCATED ON CASTROVILLE ROAD.

AND THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS LOCATED AT 1814.

THAT IS WHAT YOU'RE SEEING.

THERE IS A PARKING LOT THAT THE MADONNA CENTER UTILIZES AS WELL AS A, UH, BASEBALL FIELD AND ATHLETIC FIELDS THAT ALSO USES, USES THAT PARKING AREA.

UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO YOU CAN SEE WE'VE ALREADY LOCATED THE, THE SHOWN THE MAP FOR THE LARGE AREA REZONING.

THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY WITHIN THAT, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE MADONNA CENTER IS THE RED AREA RIGHT NEXT TO IT IS STAYING AS C TWO.

CURRENTLY THE PROPERTY IS ZONED C TWO NA AND, UM, STAFF IS RECOMMENDED THAT IT BE REZONED TO R FOUR.

SO I'M HERE TO JUST ASK THAT WE STAY AS WE ARE.

THAT'S, THAT'S THE REQUEST TODAY.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY HERE.

THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ALIGNING CASTROVILLE ROAD ARE ALL COMMERCIAL.

THAT'S USUALLY WHAT YOU SEE ON A SECONDARY ARTERIAL SUCH AS CASTROVILLE ROAD OF THIS SIZE.

YOU, IT'S, IT'S TYPICAL TO SEE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES LINING THAT.

SO YOU SEE C ONE C TWO PROPERTIES AS WE ARE.

UM, AND THE C TWO NA PERMITS THE USES AS THEY ARE USED TODAY.

THAT'S A NON-COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT.

IT'S A, UM, NON-COMMERCIAL ATHLETIC FIELD.

THOSE ARE BOTH NOT PERMITTED.

AND R FOUR.

SO AT THE OUTSET, STAFF SAID THE GOAL WAS TO ALIGN THE ZONE FOR THIS LARGE AREA WAS TO ALIGN THE ZONING WITH CURRENT USES WHILE THE CURRENT USES ARE CURRENTLY ZONED CORRECTLY.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

THIS IS JUST ANOTHER SLIDE SHOWING THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR AND HOW IT'S TYPICAL THAT YOU WOULD SEE COMMERCIAL UP AND DOWN A CORRIDOR OF THIS SIZE.

NEXT SLIDE.

AND FOR REFERENCE, THE UNDERLYING LAND USE IS FOR US AS A GENERAL URBAN TIER, AND THAT'S IN THE WEST SECTOR PLAN, WHICH DOES ALLOW OTHER, A GENERAL ARRAY OF USES, BUT, UH, COMMERCIAL IT IS MORE OF AN INTENSIVE TYPE OF LAND USE, UH, DESIGNATION.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

I THINK THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT PART OF THIS.

UM, BEFORE COVID, THE MADONNA CENTER HAD PLANS AND STILL DOES FOR THE PROPERTY NEXT, NEXT DOOR.

UM, THEY HAD PLANNED TO EXPAND THEIR SENIOR SERVICES.

THE MADONNA CENTER ALLOW HAS CHILD SERVICES, IT HAS SENIOR SERVICES.

THEY WANTED TO KEEP THE CHILD SERVICES ON THEIR CAMPUS AND EXPAND THOSE SENIOR SERVICES FOR HOUSING, FOR RETAIL, OTHER SOCIAL SERVICES, UM, GENERAL EVENT CENTER FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

ALL OF THESE THINGS WERE PLANNED AND HAD, THERE WAS A CAPITAL, UH, CAMPAIGN DONE AT THE TIME, BUT ONCE COVID HIT, THEY ACTUALLY REALLOCATED THOSE FUNDS BACK TO THE MADONNA CENTER TO PUT THE MONEY BACK INTO THE, THE CHILDCARE AREA.

BUT, SO THAT PARTICULAR PLAN WAS LET GO, BUT THEY ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF ANOTHER CAPITAL CAMPAIGN TO RAISE FUNDS TO DO SOMETHING SIMILAR.

ALL OF THESE USES ARE ALLOWED IN C TWO AND AS IT HAS BEEN ZONED.

SO THEIR PLANS ARE FOR THIS TO STAY.

C TWO.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

USUALLY WHEN YOU, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE REZONING, YOU LOOK AT A FEW THINGS THAT ARE, WHETHER IT'S CONSISTENT, WHETHER IT'S SUITABLE AS CURRENTLY ZONED.

SO AS YOU CAN, AS I'VE SHOWN BEFORE, UP AND DOWN THIS CORRIDOR, EVERYTHING ELSE IS ZONED C TWO, INCLUDING THE MADONNA CENTER ITSELF, UM, SUITABLE AS PRESENTLY ZONED.

THOSE ARE THE CURRENT USES, UM, THAT ARE C TWO USES.

THE, THE USES THAT WERE PLANNED FOR ARE C TWO USES AND WHETHER OR NOT IT HAS ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE SURROUNDING AREA, WHAT WE'RE PLANNING, WE DON'T BELIEVE HAS ADVERSE IMPACTS, BUT THAT'S THE CURRENT ZONING.

REZONING IT TO R FOUR WOULD HAVE AN ADVERSE IMPACT.

IN THIS CASE, WE WOULD LOSE ALL THE PARKING THAT WE ARE PLANNED FOR ON THE MADONNA CENTER.

AND ON THOSE ATHLETIC FIELDS ARE GENERALLY USED EITHER BY FOLKS USING THE, THE BASEBALL FIELD ITSELF OR THE MADONNA CENTER FOR OTHER TYPES OF EVENTS THEY PUT ON FOR THE COMMUNITY.

SO, UM, NEXT SLIDE.

I THINK THAT MIGHT BE THE LAST ONE.

SO IN SHORT, WE ARE HERE JUST TO ASK THAT WE BE REMOVED FROM THIS LARGE AREA REZONING AND STAY ZONED C TWO NA.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER.

NEXT WE HAVE MR. ROGER CABREO.

ERO.

THANK YOU.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

UH, MY NAME IS ROGER CABALLERO AND I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AT THE MADONNA CENTER.

WE'RE LOCATED AT 1906 CASTRO ROAD.

AND AGAIN, LIKE YOU HEARD, WE'RE HERE TO ASK YOU TO KEEP THE

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PROPERTY ZONE AS IT IS RIGHT NOW.

IF, IF IT'S CHANGED, WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO CARRY ON ANY OF THE PLANS THAT WE DO, AND IT'LL NEV NEGATIVELY IMPACT OUR ABILITY TO SERVE COMMUNITY.

AS MENTIONED, UH, OUR PLAN IS TO CONTINUE CHILDREN'S SERVICES ON THE ONE SIDE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW AND ALL ADULT SERVICES ACROSS THE STREET.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF, OF PLANNING DISCUSSION.

WE'VE TALKED TO THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH OUR PLANS.

SO AGAIN, UM, IF IT'S REZONED, UH, IT'LL NEGATIVELY IMPACT US.

I MEAN, RIGHT NOW, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE IS NO PARKING.

UM, THAT PARKING LOT YOU SEE IS WHERE ALL THE STAFF AND ALL THE, UH, THE VISITORS THAT COME TO THE MADONNA CENTER PARK AT NOW.

SO, WITH THAT GONE, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'D PARK THE, THE, THE, THE STAFF OR ANYBODY VISITING THE, THE CENTER.

WE ONLY HAVE, UH, 10 HEADING PARKING SPACES, UM, WHICH AGAIN, WILL NOT, UH, MEET OUR NEEDS.

SO, UM, UH, REZONING, UH, TO RESIDENTIAL WOULD, WOULD NEGATIVELY IMPACT, UH, THE COMMUNITY AND, AND THOSE THAT WE SERVE.

SO WE ASK THAT YOU KEEP IT AS SOON AS IT IS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

NEXT WE HAVE MS. VELMA PENA.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME'S VELMA PENA AND I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE WESTWOOD SQUARE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

AND THIS, UH, LARGE AREA REZONING HAS, IT'S BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR A LONG TIME.

WE REQUESTED A C C R BACK IN 2018, AND WE'RE FINALLY HERE.

UM, IT ASSIST TO PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE HAD A LOT OF MF 30 THREES, AND SO NOW THEY'RE BEING ZONED CORRECTLY.

AND SO I'M JUST GONNA READ A LETTER THAT I SENT, UH, IN S IN SUPPORT.

UH, THE WESTWOOD SQUARE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION SUPPORTS THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO'S LARGE AREA REZONING PLAN IN THE WESTWOOD SQUARE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WESTWOOD SQUARE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION REPRESENTATIVES MET WITH THE STAFF OF THE DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES TO REVIEW ITS RECOMMENDATIONS FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

D S D STAFF HELD SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH OUR COMMITTEE AND TWO PUBLIC MEETINGS OPEN TO ALL OUR NEIGHBORS.

WE ADDITIONALLY PROVIDED INFORMATION ON THE L A R PROCESS TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THROUGH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETINGS AND THROUGH PHONE CALLS.

WE THANK THOSE WHO VOLUNTEERED THEIR TIME, THEIR EXPERTISE AND FAMILIARITY WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND DEDICATION TO SERVING THEIR COMMUNITY WAS CRUCIAL TO ENSURING A FAIR AND TRANSPARENT PROCESS.

WE ALSO THANK D SS D STAFF FOR SEEKING NEIGHBORHOOD IN INPUT AND FOR EDUCATING OUR NEIGHBORS ABOUT THE, THE NEED FOR THE L A R.

BASED ON OUR REVIEW AND INPUT RECEIVED FROM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WESTWOOD SQUARE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, UH, RECOMMENDS TO ADOPT THE FINALIZED L A L A R PLAN.

BUT I ALSO WANTED TO RESPECTFULLY SAY THAT WE DID MEET WITH MADONNA CENTER AND, UM, AND THEY ASKED, YOU KNOW, IF THEY COULD KEEP THEIR ZONING.

UM, I HAVE NO OPPOSITION TO THAT AS A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT NOTE TO PLEASE NOTE THAT.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

NEXT WE HAVE, UH, MS. MARIA ELENA RUBIO AND MR. JORGE RUBIO.

MR. AND MRS. RUBIO? YES.

YES.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

SO MY NAME IS JORGE RUBIO, MY WIFE MARIANA RUBIO.

UH, WE LIVE AT, UH, 4 2 4 COUPLES ROAD.

CURRENTLY THIS PROPERTY IS ZONED AS A MF 33.

UH, THE CITY IS WANTING TO REZONE R FOUR CD.

UH, WE'RE OPPOSED TO THAT.

UH, WE ARE MORE INTERESTED IN MF 18 IF WE ARE NOT ABLE TO KEEP THE MF 33.

AND THE REASON FOR THAT, UH, OUR GOLD OR, UH, IS WANTING TO BUILD AN ADDITIONAL, UH, APARTMENT IN THE BACK.

UH, THE HOUSE CURRENTLY WAS A, UH, USED AS A DUPLEX, UH, AND AGAIN, WANTING TO CHANGE IT TO R FOUR CD.

UH, WE ARE AGAINST THAT, WE'RE OPPOSED TO THAT.

UH, WE'RE HOPING THAT WE CAN AT LEAST SWITCH OVER TO MF 18.

UH, AND AGAIN, THE REASON FOR THAT IS WANTING TO BUILD A, A DUPLEX.

AND THIS IS FOR A FUTURE OR SUPPLEMENTAL INCOME.

UH, WE ALREADY HAVE APARTMENTS, UH, NORTH OF US NEXT DOOR ADJACENT TO OUR PROPERTY.

THAT WOULD BE, UH, 4 1 4 COUPLES ROAD.

AND, UH, THAT ONE IS AN EIGHT UNIT APARTMENT.

UH, I'M NOT SURE WHETHER THAT PROPERTY IS UNDER AN MF 18, IF THAT IS THE CASE.

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UM, WE SEE NO REASON WHY WE CAN'T GO UNDER MF 18, UH, ZONING, IF YOU WILL.

THAT'S IN THE SAME BLOCK, THOUGH.

THE 400 BLOCK YEAH.

WEST SIDE.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING.

JUST CHANGE.

SO AGAIN, UH, I MEAN, WE'RE JUST UP HERE TO OPPOSE THE R FOUR CD.

UH, AND WE'D RATHER LIKE, WE'D RATHER SEE IF WE CAN HAVE IT RESOLVED.

MF 18.

THAT'S IT FOR NOW.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

OKAY.

WE MAY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU IN A MINUTE.

SURE, SURE.

WANT US TO, UH, UM, YEAH, IF Y'ALL COULD HAVE A SEAT, WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE A COUPLE OTHER SPEAKERS LEAVE.

AND THEN LAST WE HAVE MS. RUTH RODRIGUEZ.

UH, GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS ROSE RODRIGUEZ.

I AM, UH, COMING 'CAUSE I HAVE, UH, TWO PROPERTIES ON 2 0 2 AON AND 2 31 AON AVENUE.

UM, RIGHT NOW THEY ARE STATED UNDER F M F 33.

AND THE REASON I'M COMING IS 'CAUSE I, I WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO BE CHANGED TO MF 18.

THE ADDRESS AT 2 0 2 IS MY PROPERTY, UH, MY PARENTS' PROPERTY.

AND WE ALREADY HAVE TWO HOMES AT THAT SAME PROPERTY.

NOW, THE, UH, 2 31, IT ONLY HAS ONE HOME, BUT IN THE FUTURE, I, THAT IS MY PROPERTY ALSO.

THE OTHER ONE IS MY PARENTS, BUT IT'S, IT'S UNDER MY NAME NOW.

THE, UH, 2 31, I WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THE ZONING TO M F 18 IF POSSIBLE.

BOTH PROPERTIES.

MR. CHAIR? BRIEFLY? YES.

COULD YOU REPEAT THE STREET NAME? I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T CATCH IT.

AON A DOUBLE P E R S O N AVENUE.

AND THE OTHER ADDRESS WAS 2 31, 2 31 AND 2 0 2.

SAME, SAME STREET.

THANK YOU.

MY, MY QUESTION HERE IS THAT I WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO BE CHANGED FROM MF 33 TO MF 18, BOTH PROPERTIES IF POSSIBLE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S IT FOR SPEAKERS FOR ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

ALRIGHT.

UM, DO, DO WE GIVE A REBUTTAL FOR STAFF OR, OR DO WE JUST PROCEED TO QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT.

UH, COMMISSIONER BUSANTE, THIS IS YOUR CASE.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UM, MR. CHAIR, UH, I'D LIKE TO BEGIN WITH MR. CABALLERO.

I KNOW MR. MCKNIGHT UH, MENTIONED A COUPLE OF THINGS.

SO IF I COULD, COULD YOU JUST COME UP HERE AND TELL US ABOUT THE MADONNA CENTER AND, AND THE SERVICES Y'ALL PROVIDE AND, AND YOUR HISTORY? SURE.

THANK YOU.

UH, THE MADONNA CENTER HAS BEEN IN THE COMMUNITY SINCE THE MID FIFTIES IN THAT LOCATION.

IT WAS FOUNDED BY THE SISTERS OF DIVINE PROVIDENCE BACK IN 1939.

SO IT'S A LONGSTANDING NONPROFIT.

UH, WE PROVIDE SERVICES, UH, FOR THE WHOLE FAMILY.

WE BEGIN WITH CHILDREN, UH, AS YOUNG AS TWO YEARS OLD.

UH, AND THEN WE END AT THE OTHER END OF THE SPECTRUM WITH, UH, SENIORS OVER 60.

UM, THE, UH, THE SENIORS COME ON PROPERTY EVERY DAY AND WHAT WE'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DO IS SEPARATE FOR THE SAFETY OF CHILDREN.

AND ACTUALLY IT'S A REQUIREMENT, UM, FROM, FROM LICENSING THAT CHILDREN BE SAFEGUARDED.

SO WE LIKE TO KEEP ALL THE CHILDREN SERVICES ON THE PROPERTY, UH, THAT WE OCCUPY NOW AND MOVE ALL THE ADULT AND SENIOR SERVICES TO ACROSS THE STREET.

UM, UH, WE SERVE CURRENTLY SERVE 160 CHILDREN WITH 80 OF THOSE BEING UNDER THE AGE OF THREE.

UH, AS FAR AS SENIORS ARE CONCERNED, WE, UH, ARE, WE HAVE A HUNDRED SENIORS REGISTERED.

UH, BUT BECAUSE OF SPACE, WE ARE ONLY ABLE TO SERVE, UH, ON AVERAGE 30 TO 35, UH, DAILY.

UM, THE MADONNA CENTER RECENTLY RECEIVED SOME APA FUNDING TO DO A SENIOR PROGRAM, UH, SENIOR RECITATION PROGRAM WHERE, UH, WE'VE HIRED SOME SENIORS THAT ARE STILL ABLE AND WILLING TO WORK, UH, TO VISIT OTHER SENIORS THAT ARE HOME BOUND.

UM, AGAIN, IT'S A SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCY THAT, THAT'S BEEN IN THAT COMMUNITY FOR, YOU KNOW, A LONG, LONG TIME.

SO WE, WE'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY THAT WAS PURCHASED IN THE, IN THE MID, I WANNA SAY THE EARLY NINETIES.

UM, AND IT SAT THERE FOR, FOR A LONG TIME AND DEVELOPED, THEY DID PUT IN A, A, A BALL

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FIELD THAT'S THERE NOW.

UM, WE WERE TALKING EARLIER THAT THE BALL FIELD IS THERE AND THERE'S ALSO A WALKING PATH THAT, THAT OUR, UH, RESIDENTS ARE ABLE TO USE, UM, FOR EXERCISE.

UM, THE, THE PLANS THAT WE HAVE ARE, AGAIN, TO EXPAND THOSE, UH, SENIOR AND ADULT SERVICES BY DEVELOPING THE PROPERTY.

UH, SO IF WE CAN KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS, IT'LL ALLOW US, UH, TO, TO DO THAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, SIR.

APPRECIATE IT.

UM, MS. MS. RODRIGUEZ, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME ON UP.

ALRIGHT.

CAN, CAN YOU DESCRIBE WHAT KIND OF LOCATION? UH, 2 0 2 IERSON IS 2 0 2 ANDERSON IS, UH, THE STREET.

IERSON IS JUST A TWO BLOCK STREET, AND IT IS BETWEEN BARKLEY AND COUPLES ROAD.

WE ARE ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE, UH, MENTI, UH, VIA VENDI COURTS.

UH, BEHIND US IS CHEYENNE STREET AND RIGHT BEHIND OUR PROPERTY OR THE CHEYENNE APARTMENTS.

SO WE ARE SURROUNDED BY APARTMENTS NOW.

MY STREET, UH, IS BEING A TWO BLOCK STREET.

ALL OF OUR PROPERTIES ARE OVER 200 FEET DEEP.

SO, UH, MY, MY FAMILY ARRIVED AT THAT PLACE BACK IN 1954, AND WE HAVE A SMALLER HOME WHERE OUR FAMILY BEGAN THAN IN THE UPPER FRONT OF THE, OF THE LOT.

THIS IS WHERE MY PARENTS BUILT ANOTHER HOME WHERE WE RECITE RIGHT NOW.

NOW I HAVE A BLOCK DOWN THE STREET.

I WAS ABLE TO PURCHASE MY OWN HOME IN THAT AREA.

AND IT'S ALSO ABOUT 200 FEET, UH, DEEP AND ABOUT 50 FEET WIDE.

SO MY CONCERN IS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MAINTAIN IT, UH, TO CONVERT IT TO A MF 18.

I KNOW IN THAT AREA A LOT OF THESE PROPERTIES HAVE MORE THAN ONE DWELLING.

SOME OF 'EM HAVE APARTMENTS, BUT BEING THAT ALREADY OUR PROPERTY HAS TWO HOMES, I WOULD LIKE TO MAINTAIN IT AS AN MF INSTEAD OF MF 33 AS IT IS RIGHT NOW.

OKAY.

SO LET ME, I WANT TO TAKE ONE PROPERTY AT A TIME REALLY QUICKLY.

OKAY, THAT'S FINE.

SO, UH, 2 0 2 ERS? CORRECT.

OKAY.

HOW MANY STRUCTURES ARE ON THERE? WE HAVE TWO STRUCTURES.

TWO HOMES? TWO STRUCTURES? YES.

AND SO TWO DWELLING UNITS, IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

OKAY.

UM, ONE OF THEM, SIR, WHICH IS WHERE MY PARENTS BEGAN, THEIR HOME IS IT WAS BUILT IN 19 50, 56.

AND THE UPPER ONE IN THE FRONT OF THE LOT IS, WAS BUILT IN 1960.

OKAY.

AND WITH 2 31, HOW MANY DWELLING UNITS ARE CURRENTLY I ONLY HAVE ONE IN THAT PROPERTY.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, MA'AM.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

ALL RIGHT.

STAFF SOME QUESTIONS.

ALL RIGHT.

I I, YOU CAN GO UP, YOU CAN SIT DOWN.

I DON'T CARE.

, YES.

OKAY.

HOW MANY UNITS, UH, HOW MANY NOTICES WERE SENT OUT FOR THIS? IT WAS, UH, APPROXIMATELY A 2,810.

ALRIGHT.

AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE FOUR PROPERTIES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW AS EXCEPTIONS.

YEAH.

SO FIRST, CONGRATULATIONS.

THAT'S A REALLY GOOD BATTING AVERAGE.

YEAH.

UM, BUT LET'S TALK ABOUT THESE FOUR PROPERTIES, HOWEVER, UH, 1814, UH, CASTROVILLE ROAD, WHAT WAS THE STAFF'S THOUGHTS ABOUT TAKING THIS PROPERTY THAT SEEMS TO BE USED IN C TWO NA USES AND MAKING IT R FOUR ALONG A TYPE A ARTERIAL? UH, SO SECONDARY? SURE.

ARTERIAL.

SO JUST KEEP IN MIND, DIRECTIVE WAS TO, UM, APPLY AN APPROPRIATE ZONING TO MATCH EXISTING LAND USE.

THE EXISTING LAND USE WOULD WOULD OPERATE UNDER AN R FOUR, UM, CONSISTENT WITH, UM, NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES IN THE AREA.

SO, UM, IN THIS, THIS PROPERTY SITUATION, WE'VE CONDUCTED, UM, DISCUSSIONS, UM, MEETINGS WITH, WITH THE, UH, APPLICANTS FROM THE MCDONALD CENTER.

BUT THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, UM, WE DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY, UM, DOCUMENTS AS FAR AS PLANS GO.

UM, SO WE WEREN'T, WE DIDN'T KNOW THE DETAILS OF ANY PROJECT UNTIL RECENT.

UM, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THAT COMES FROM.

SO GIVEN THAT INFORMATION, UH, DOES STAFF HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO LEAVING 1814 CASTROVILLE ROAD C TWO N A? UH, NO.

ARE, LET'S MOVE ON TO, UH, I BELIEVE 4 24 COUPLES.

THE RUBIO'S PROPERTY? CORRECT.

UM, ALRIGHT.

AND ACTUALLY I FORGOT TO ASK THEM QUESTIONS ACTUALLY.

CAN I ASK THEM

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A COUPLE QUESTIONS FIRST? SURE.

THE RUBIOS, IF YOU WOULD.

YES, SIR.

YES SIR.

AND, AND SO CURRENTLY YOU HAVE TWO DWELLING UNITS ON YOUR PROPERTY, IS THAT CORRECT? IT'S ONE DWELLING AND IT'S DIVIDED.

OH, OKAY.

IT IS ONE DWELLING.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

AND IT IS DIVIDED, IT'S ONE BUILDING, BUT YOU CAN RENT OUT ONE OF THE UNITS OR LIVE IN ONE OF THE UNITS? IT IS, SIR.

THAT IS CORRECT.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

UM, WHEN WE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY MM-HMM.

, WE REMODELED THE INSIDE AND THAT'S WHEN WE NOTICED THAT IT HAD BEEN DIVIDED.

SO WHEN WE, WE REMODELED, WE JUST LEFT IT LIKE THAT.

BUT WE'RE USING IT RIGHT NOW.

IT'S A SINGLE UNIT.

'CAUSE WE, WE WERE YOUNG AND WE WERE THINKING ABOUT OUR FUTURE DOWN THE ROAD AND WE'RE GETTING UP THERE IN AGE.

SO THAT'S IT.

IT'S BEING PAID FOR.

AND SINCE THEY BUILD APARTMENTS RIGHT NEXT TO US IS PART OF THE REASON WE WANT TO KEEP IT OKAY LIKE THAT BECAUSE IT'S IN ONE BLOCK.

THE BOUGHT THE HOUSE ON THE CORNER, THEY CAME IN, TOOK IT APART 'CAUSE THEY WIND THE STREET.

SO THE STREET GOT WENT ABOUT THREE, FOUR YEARS AGO.

SO OUR BLOCK, WE JUST HAVE UNITS ON ONE SIDE AND IT'S OUR SINGLE HOME, THE OTHER END AT THE CORNER OF THE STREET.

IT'S AN EMPTY LOT THAT THE CITY IS RUNNING THE SEWER OR WATER LINES AND IT'S JUST THERE BY ITSELF.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU MS. RUBIA.

SO, UM, JUST REALLY BRIEFLY, ONE OTHER QUESTION.

UH, WHAT IS ON YOUR BLOCK, YOU MENTIONED THERE'S ANOTHER ADDRESS ON COUPLES.

WHAT IS THAT ADDRESS THAT IS NORTH OF IT IS 4 1 4 COUPLES ROAD 4 1 4.

THOSE ARE APARTMENTS.

THOSE ARE EIGHT UNITS.

OKAY.

TOWNHOMES.

OKAY.

THEY ARE TOWNHOMES.

YES.

NOW, THANK YOU.

IF I MAY ADD SOMETHING.

SURE.

ASIDE FROM THAT, BETWEEN MERIDA AND SANTIO, YOU HAVE, INCLUDING OUR HOUSE, YOU HAVE AT LEAST FOUR, FOUR HOUSES THAT ARE RESIDENTIAL, IF YOU WILL.

OKAY? MM-HMM.

.

SO, BUT THEN YOU HAVE, UH, STORES AND BUSINESSES AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

NOW AGAIN, THE REASON FOR WANTING TO MAINTAIN, IF NOT MF 33, THE MF 18 IS BECAUSE OF, UH, LIKE I SAID, FOR SUPPLEMENTAL, UH, INCOME IN THE FUTURE.

WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING PRETTY CLOSE TO RETIRE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU MR. RUBIA.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MR. RUBIA.

HAVE A GOOD ONE.

ALRIGHT, SO NOW MR. CAMACHO, I'M BACK TO YOU.

UM, AND, AND NOW I'M GONNA PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.

UH, 4 1 4 IS CURRENTLY, UH, ZONED MF 33.

IS THAT REMAINING MF 33 IN, IN THIS REASON, WE ARE RECOMMENDING, UM, R FOUR WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO UNITS.

NO.

SO THAT'S 4 24.

YES.

FOR 4 24, WE'RE RECOMMENDING FOR TWO UNITS FOR FOUR 14 COUPLES ARE RECOMMENDING MF 18.

MF 18, YES.

OKAY.

TO ALIGN WITH THE CURRENT USE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

UM, DOES THE STAFF HAVE A POSITION, MR. CAMACHO? SORRY, I'M NOT DONE.

.

UH, DOES THE STAFF HAVE A POSITION ON, UH, ZONING 4 24 COUPLES TO MF 18? AND IF SO, WHAT'S THE RATIONALE? UH, NO.

I MEAN WE, LIKE I MENTIONED, WE APPLIED TO THE CURRENT USE OF THE PROPERTY.

UM, NOT SO MUCH A, YOU KNOW, FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OR POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

AND SO NOW WITH RESPECT TO, UH, LET'S START WITH 2 0 2 AMERSON, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, A MID-BLOCK PROPERTY, IT DOES ACCORDING TO MR. RODRIGUEZ, HAVE TWO UNITS ON THERE.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE RECOMMENDED ZONING IS IN THE LARGE AREA ZONING FOR THAT PROPERTY? FOR THE, THE PROPERTY IS ON RSON, I'M SORRY, 2 0 2 RSON.

2 0 2 ERON WAS JUST FOR R FOUR.

JUST R FOUR, YES.

SINGLE FAMILY.

AND I, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD, UM, THAT AN ALTERNATIVE OPTION IS TO JUST REMOVE, UH, MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO REMOVE THE PROPERTIES FROM THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

UM, AND FOR 2 31, THAT IS GOING JUST TO GO TO R FOUR AS WELL, IS THAT CORRECT? THE PLAN UNDER THE LARGE AREA REZONING? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY.

AND CURRENTLY BOTH THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ON AMERSON ARE PART OF THE MF 33? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY.

UH, I GUESS THIS MIGHT BE A QUESTION FOR EITHER STAFF OR THE CITY ATTORNEY.

UM, IS THERE ANY REASON THAT AS PART OF THIS PROCESS, SAY FOR EXAMPLE WITH THE COUPLES ROAD, UH, ASSUMING THAT'S MF 33, GOING DOWN TO A LESS INTENSIVE ZONING, BUT NOT THE RECOMMENDED INTEN ZONE INTENSITY BY STAFF, IS THAT ACCEPTABLE? SO MF 33 TO MF 18, THE CODE ALLOWS THAT? YES.

OKAY.

THERE'S NO NOTICE ISSUE WITH THAT NO NOTICE ISSUE? NO SIR.

OKAY.

AND SO THE SAME THING WOULD HOLD THEN WITH THE RSON PROPERTIES AS MF 33 TO R FOUR, MF 18 IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THOSE TWO, SO IT'S STILL ALLOWED CORRECT.

GOING FROM, IF YOU'RE INCREASING DENSITY,

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NO.

RIGHT.

BUT IF YOU'RE BUT CURRENT, BUT CURRENTLY IT'S F 33.

CORRECT? YOU CAN GO 33, YOU CAN GO DOWN.

OKAY.

BUT YOU CAN'T GO R FOUR AND GO UP? CORRECT.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

UM, OKAY.

I THINK THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

ALRIGHT.

ANY OTHER, ANY QUESTIONS? OTHER COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? NONE COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT? NONE.

AND, UH, FOR THE RECORD, I BELIEVE WE LOST, UH, COMMISSIONER WATSON.

UM, YES, SHE, UH, DISCONNECTED AT 2:31 PM AND SHE WILL REJOIN US.

SHE IS RELOCATING.

OKAY.

AND, UH, COMMISSIONER NICKS ALSO LEFT THE MEETING AT 2 26.

ALRIGHT.

AND I HAVE NO QUESTIONS.

SO BACK TO YOU COMMISSIONER BUSMAN.

SO I TALKED FOR A VERY LONG TIME, YES, YOU DID.

UM, THANK YOU.

UM, YOU KNOW, AS MR. CAMACHO AND MR. MCKNIGHT BOTH POINTED OUT THESE CASES, THESE LARGE AREA REZONINGS ARE IN SOME WAYS THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT WE NORMALLY DO IN THE SENSE THAT NORMALLY WE'RE HERE BEFORE YOU, UH, ASKING YOU FOR REASONS TO CHANGE ZONING TO DO A DIFFERENT USE.

AND IN THESE LARGE AREA REZONINGS, WHICH ARE CRITICALLY IMPORTANT FOR OUR OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS, NEIGHBORHOODS IN OUR OLDER DISTRICTS, UM, IT ALLOWS US TO TAKE THE CURRENT USE, LOOK AT IT AND APPLY THE CORRECT ZONING.

UM, YOU KNOW, OUR FIRST CALLER TODAY, MS. DEA LIVES IN AN MF 33, UH, HUGE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AS MS. PENA POINTED OUT, A LOT OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE WESTWARD SQUARE AREA ARE CURRENTLY ZONED MF 33.

BUT THAT'S NOT HOW THEY'RE BEING USED.

THEY'RE BEING USED BY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES.

AND WE NEED TO SUPPORT THAT AT THIS POINT BECAUSE TO DO OTHERWISE, IN MY OPINION, IS TO ALLOW FOR PREDATORY DEVELOPERS TO COME IN AND RADICALLY CHANGE THE FACE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

THESE OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS, THESE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT AREN'T JUST NOW BEING, YOU KNOW, SORT OF GETTING THEIR WORTH AFTER BEING UNDERVALUED FOR TOO LONG.

UH, ALLOW DEVELOPERS TO GO IN AND SORT OF RE PILLAGE THESE AREAS WITHOUT ANY INPUT, UH, FROM THE ZONING COMMISSION.

AND SO THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, I THINK I LIKE TO SEE THESE LARGE AREA REZONINGS IS BECAUSE NOT ONLY DOES IT SORT OF MAKE ZONING MAKE SENSE, BUT IT ALLOWS US TO PROPERLY LOOK AT CASES AS WE GO FORWARD.

AND SO, GIVEN THAT, AND GIVEN AGAIN THE TREMENDOUS WORK THAT THE CITY STAFF DID HERE, UH, TO HAVE 2000 PLUS NOTICES SENT OUT TO HAVE FOUR PROPERTIES AT ISSUE, I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE LARGE AREA REZONING ITEM NUMBER FOUR WITH THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTIONS.

UM, WELL 1814 CASTROVILLE ROAD TO REMAIN C TWO N A, UH, 4, 2 4 COUPLES TO MF 18.

AND THIS IS THE CLOSEST ONE, BUT I'M STILL GONNA GO AHEAD AND RECOMMEND IT AND SEE WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL OFFICE DOES AND CITY COUNCIL DOES.

BUT ON 2 0 2, UH, ERON AND 2 31 ERON MF 18 FOR THOSE PROPERTIES AS WELL.

THAT IS MY MOTION.

SECOND THAT ALSO.

ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARBADOS.

UM, DISCUSSION, LOOKING LEFT, LOOKING RIGHT, AND I HAVE NONE.

SO THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL WITH THE NOTED EXCEPTIONS.

UM, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER BUSANTE AYE.

COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES.

COMMISSIONER FUENTES.

AYE.

COMMISSIONER REYES? AYE.

COMMISSIONER, WE AYE.

COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES.

CHAIR SIPES? YES.

ITEM PASSES AS AMENDED.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

AND, UH, QUESTION FOR STAFF.

DID Y'ALL SAY THAT, UM, COMMISSIONER WATSON WAS GONNA TRY AND RECONNECT? YES.

BUT SHE IS GOING TO RECONNECT.

SHE HASN'T YET.

SO IF WE NEED TO MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM THAT IS NOT HERS, WE CAN YES.

IF WE COULD DO THAT.

IF WE COULD MOVE, SKIP ITEM EIGHT, I BELIEVE AND MOVE TO ITEM NINE.

AND THEN WE'LL TAKE A BREAK AND THEN WE WILL HOPEFULLY ALL RECONNECT,

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TAKE A BREAK OR GO RIGHT NOW.

OKAY? MM-HMM.

.

ALRIGHT.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS ELIZABETH STEWART, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

ITEM NUMBER NINE IS LOCATED AT 58 11 SOUTH FLORA STREET, GOING FROM R SIX TO C TWO WITH ALL OVER LACE TO STAY THE SAME.

THERE WERE 32 NOTICES SENT OUT.

ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM HARLANDALE MCCOLLUM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR MISSION SAN JOSE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

THE EXISTING R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON AN ARTERIAL AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF A RESIDENTIAL HOUSE ON A PROPERTY FACING THAT STREET CLASSIFICATION WOULD NOT BE AN APPROPRIATE LAND USE.

THE REQUESTED C TWO COMMERCIAL ZONE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING.

THE REQUEST ALIGNS WITH THE USES ALONG THE SOUTH FLORES CORRIDOR.

MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTIES ALONG THIS CORRIDOR ARE ZONED C TWO AND C TWO AND A, AND ARE DEVELOPED WITH LOW TO MEDIUM INTENSITY COMMERCIAL USES.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HAS BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A RESTAURANT SINCE THE EARLIER TWO THOUSANDS.

THE REZONING BRINGS THAT USE INTO PERMANENT COMPLIANCE.

STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.

THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS, AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

IF WE COULD ADD THE APPLICANT PLEASE.

HELLO? GOOD AFTERNOON.

HUGO LOPEZ.

UH, 58 11 SOUTH FLORIDA STREET.

YOU JUST, UH, TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR REZONING REQUEST.

REZONING.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, THE, THE BUSINESS WAS MY NIECES.

WE BOUGHT IT FROM THEM.

UH, WE'RE TRYING TO REZONE IT BECAUSE IT WAS COM UH, RESIDENTIAL, BUT THERE WAS A RESTAURANT THERE, SO IT WAS KIND OF GRANDFATHERED IN.

SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS GET A T B C LICENSE, WHICH WE ALREADY HAVE IN ANOTHER RESTAURANT.

ALL WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS WE, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? MOVE IT FROM THAT LOCATION TO THIS NEW LOCATION.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS, WE'LL WE WILL ASK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

THIS IS DISTRICT.

WHICH ONE IS THIS? THREE? DISTRICT THREE FUENTES.

DO YOU QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, UH, FOR THE APPLICANT.

UM, SO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK WITH ANY OF THE NEARBY BUSINESSES OR, UH, NEIGHBORS? UH, YES.

UH, T A B C GAVE ME A, A LIST TO GO AROUND 200, UH, FEET AROUND.

SO I, I DELIVERED ALL THE HOUSES AROUND, UH, PAPER FROM T A B C THAT WE WERE GONNA GET A T A B C LICENSE.

SO I DID SPEAK TO THE BACK NEIGHBORS, LIKE MAYBE LIKE 10.

I SPOKE TO A NEIGHBOR OR THE MECHANIC, THE, THE BARGAIN PLACE NEXT TO ME, THE RESTAURANT THAT I SPOKE TO THEM.

I SPOKE TO THE FRONT NEIGHBOR ACROSS THE CAR WASH.

I BELIEVE THEY SELL LIKE, UH, USED FURNITURE.

AND THEY WERE LIKE, YEAH, WE'LL, WE'LL WE'RE GOOD.

AND DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING IN WRITING FROM ANY OF THESE NEIGHBORS? NO, ALL I DID WAS SPOKE.

I WAS, UH, WE SPOKE WITH THEM 'CAUSE MY, MY DAD'S WHAT, 93 AND HE WAS WALKING WITH ME.

I TOLD HIM THAT YOU WANNA GO FOR A WALK? WE WERE LIKE, YEAH, .

SO HE WAS WALKING WITH ME AND WE'RE LIKE, YEAH.

AND HE WAS, HE STAYED.

HE'S THE ONE THAT STAYED TALKING TO HIM MORE AND THEY WERE LIKE, YEAH, GO AHEAD.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? GOTCHA.

UM, LET'S SEE.

AND HAVE YOU HAD ANY, UH, OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO ANYONE FROM THE NEIGHBORS ASSOCIATION? NO, ALL I DID WAS I DID SEND THEM AN EMAIL SINCE THE BEGINNING WHEN I, I BELIEVE I SPOKE TO YOU ON THE PHONE OR SOMEBODY FROM THE CITY COUNCIL THERE, AND THEY JUST TOLD ME, OH, JUST SEND 'EM AN EMAIL OR CALL 'EM UP.

AND THE EASIEST THING I DID WAS SEND 'EM AN EMAIL SINCE THE BEGINNING, SINCE FIRST I FIRST STARTED DOING ALL THIS PAPERWORK FOR T V C.

OKAY.

UH, NO FURTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

ALL RIGHT, THANKS.

THANK YOU.

UM, ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.

NONE.

COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT? NONE.

ALL RIGHT.

BACK TO YOU COMMISSIONER FUENTES FOR A MOTION.

SO THIS, THIS IS A VERY BUSY, UH, STREET.

UH, SOUTH FLORIDA IS, UH, YOU KNOW, CONNECTING THE SOUTH BASICALLY DOWN, UH, TO DOWNTOWN.

THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC GOING DOWN HERE.

THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN, UH, COMING UP WITH THIS STREET.

AND, UH, THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT, UH, HAVING THAT, UH, THE ABILITY TO SELL ALCOHOL THERE.

UM, AND I UNDERSTAND THE APPLICANT HAS MADE SOME EFFORTS TO, TO, UM, CANVAS THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, BUT I, I WOULD FEEL A LITTLE BIT MORE COMFORTABLE HAVING SOMETHING IN WRITING FROM

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THE NEIGHBORS, UM, YOU KNOW, IN, IN SUPPORT OF, OF HAVING A, A LIQUOR SALES THERE OR ALCOHOL SALES THERE.

UM, SO I WOULD LIKE TO ACTUALLY CONTINUE THIS CASE OUT TWO WEEKS TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE OUTREACH INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, SO THAT WE CAN MAKE A SOLID DECISION ON THIS CASE.

OKAY.

SO THE MOTION IS FOR A CONTINUANCE FOR TWO WEEKS? CORRECT.

ALRIGHT, SECOND.

IS THAT YOU COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE.

SORRY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, SO, UH, MOTION IS FOR A CONTINUANCE FOR TWO WEEKS BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE.

ANY DISCUSSION? YES.

COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE, GO AHEAD.

OR, OKAY.

I WAS GONNA SAY, YOU KNOW, THE PRIMARY REASON I'M JUMPING ON THIS CONTINUANCE IS BECAUSE A LOT OF THE COMMERCIAL USES SURROUNDING, YOU HAVE NA, WHICH MEANS NO ALCOHOL.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE GONNA MAKE THAT CHANGE TO ALLOW THESE KINDS OF SALES UNDER THE ZONING, I REALLY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BUY-IN.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER BARTOS? YEAH, I, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

UM, I, I'M SURPRISED BECAUSE THE ONLY REQUIREMENT FOR T A B C IS THAT YOU POST A POSTER, WHICH IS A HUGE POSTER FOR 30 DAYS.

SO DID, DIDN'T THEY REQUIRE YOU TO UH, YES SIR.

I DID POST IT, UH, A LONG TIME AGO ALREADY.

IT'S UP THERE IN THE FRONT.

IT'S IN FRONT OF THE, UH, THE RESTAURANT, THE FRONT DOOR.

IT'S BEEN UP FOR A WHILE.

'CAUSE IN MY OPINION, THAT'S THE ONLY LEGAL RESTRICTION THAT YOU HAVE.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO TALK TO ANY OF THE NEIGHBORS.

I MEAN, RESTRICTION IS TO POST THAT POSTER AND BE AWAY FROM A CHURCH OR HOSPITAL, UH, AND A SCHOOL.

AND THOSE ARE THE ONLY REQUIREMENTS IN THE STATE, UH, TEXAS, T A B C LAW.

I I, THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT THAT YOU GOTTA GO DOOR TO DOOR, IN MY OPINION THAT THAT'S THIS THE LEGAL RESTRICTION.

I DUNNO WHY THEY MADE YOU DOOR, DOOR TO DOOR.

UH, YES SIR.

THAT'S WHAT THEY TOLD ME.

SO THAT'S WHAT I DID.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I JUST DON'T WANT TO GET THE T B C LICENSE 'CAUSE, BUT FIRST, BEFORE I DO THAT, I DIDN'T GET THE REZONING REZONED.

SO I JUST STARTED DOING BOTH THINGS AT THE SAME TIME, BECAUSE NOW IF I DO GET APPROVED RIGHT NOW BY Y'ALL, I GET IT TILL AUGUST 3RD BY GO IN FRONT OF THE CITY COUNCIL'S OFFICE.

I'M STILL GONNA WAIT TO OPEN THE RESTAURANT TWO MORE MONTHS.

OKAY.

UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS I, I'LL MAKE YOU WANT ME TO MAKE MY COMMENTS FIRST? YEAH, SO, UH, COMMISSIONER BOT, I BELIEVE THE REASON WHY HE WAS ASKED TO, TO DO OUTREACH WAS BECAUSE HE CAN, BECAUSE IT'S A ZONING CHANGE.

AND SO THE ZONING CHANGE, WE KIND OF LIKE TO SEE NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH.

UM, IF HE ALREADY HAD A, IF IT WAS NOT AN R OR A N A AND HE WAS SEEKING THE T A B C, YEAH, IT'S OUT OF, IT'S OUT OF OUR PURVIEW, YOU MIGHT SAY.

BUT, UH, SINCE IT REQUIRED, UH, THE REMOVAL OR THE A CHANGE, THEN, THEN THE, THE COMMISSION AND THE CITY LIKES TO SEE NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH.

THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S WHY IT WASN'T TO SATISFY T A B C, IT WAS TO SATISFY US ESSENTIALLY.

UM, AND, AND I AGREE WITH YOU COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE AND, UM, UH, ABOUT THE, THE SURROUNDING USES.

UM, YEAH.

YES.

FLOSS IS A, A, WELL, IT'S NOT REALLY A BUSY STREET.

I DON'T CONSIDER IT A BUSY STREET PER SE.

UM HUH.

I DON'T KNOW REALLY.

, I GUESS I JUST GO DOWN THERE WHEN IT'S NOT BUSY.

MAYBE.

SO IT IS BUSY.

IF YOU'RE TURNING LEFT, I'VE FOUND THAT IF YOU'RE TURNING FROM GERALD GOING LEFT AND ALL THAT, SOMETIMES I HAVE TO WAIT.

UM, ANYWAY, TO DIGRESS BACK TO YOU.

SO, UH, FOR THE APPLICANT, UM, JUST KEEP UP THE, THE, THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING, UH, IF WE CAN GET SOME SIGNATURES, UH, ANYTHING IN WRITING, UH, UH, ABOUT BUY-IN FOR, UH, YOUR PROPOSAL, THAT WOULD REALLY GO A LONG WAY.

UM, I THINK THAT IF YOU'VE HAD THE, THE SUCCESS THAT YOU'VE HAD SO FAR, IT SHOULDN'T BE OF AN ISSUE.

UH, AND, AND ONCE WE SEE YOU BACK HERE IN TWO WEEKS, UH, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO PROCEED, UH, IN A, IN A POSITIVE LIGHT.

ALRIGHT, JUST QUESTION.

JUST THAT COULD BE JUST ANY NEIGHBORS, THE BUSINESS OWNERS OR ANYBODY THAT'S AROUND.

SO I WOULD GET BUY-IN, ESPECIALLY FROM THE FOLKS WITHIN 200 FEET.

BUT TO GO A STEP FURTHER, IF WE COULD, UH, GET SOMETHING IN WRITING FROM THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THAT WOULD PUSH THIS, UH, REALLY OVER OVER THE EDGE.

GOT IT.

AND MR. CHAIR, THIS IS MELISSA RAMIREZ, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR.

THAT IS SOMETHING WE ALWAYS RECOMMEND TO OUR APPLICANTS, IS THAT THEY TALK TO THE REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.

IT'S ACTUALLY A REQUIREMENT, UM, TO SEND THEM

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COMMUNICATION, UM, AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE AWARE OF THEIR ZONING CASE AND ALSO TO GET AS MANY, UM, LETTERS OF SUPPORT WITHIN THE 200 FOOT BOUNDARY.

SO YES, YOU ARE CORRECT.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, SO THE MOTION IS FOR A CONTINUANCE AND, UH, COMMISSIONER FUENTES, I BELIEVE, WAS IT COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE BEFORE, BEFORE I WENT ON MY LONG-WINDED ASIDE, UM, IF WE COULD HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER FUENTES.

AYE.

COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE? AYE.

COMMISSIONER REYES? AYE.

COMMISSIONER, WE AYE.

COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES.

COMMISSIONER BARROS.

I'M GONNA ABSTAIN FROM IT.

CHAIR SIPES? YES.

ITEM PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE.

ALRIGHT, THE TIME.

MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY BRIEFLY, AND THIS GOES STILL TO COUNSEL ON THE SAME DATE IN AUGUST, RIGHT? EVEN THOUGH IT'S BEEN CONTINUED, SO IT'S NOT EVEN GONNA SLOW 'EM DOWN MUCH.

GREAT.

ALRIGHT.

IT IS.

WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE ROMAN NUMERAL CLOCK, THAT DOESN'T WORK.

IT IS 2 55.

IF WE COULD TAKE A 10 MINUTE BREAK, FIVE MINUTE BREAK SO THAT I CAN REFOCUS.

TIME IS 2 55.

WE ARE ADJOURNED FOR FIVE, 10 MINUTES AND WE WILL PROCEED TO CASE 15 TEMPORARILY.

WHAT? I KNOW, BUT, BUT, BUT WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA SWITCH.

IS THAT ALL RIGHT? WE'RE WAITING FOR THE RAIN TO PASS BY.

I HAVE NO IDEA.

YEAH.

SO IF WE COULD DO, IF WE CAN, WE DO 15.

THANKS.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

ELIZABETH STEWART ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

ITEM NUMBER 15 IS GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 800 BLOCK OF CASTROVILLE ROAD GOING FROM C THREE R TO C TWO WITH ALL OVERLAY TO STAY THE SAME.

THERE WERE THREE NOTICES SENT OUT.

ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED, AND NO RESPONSE FROM LAS PALMAS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR CHARRO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

THE EXISTING C THREE R GENERAL COMMERCIAL RESTRICTIVE ALCOHOL SALES DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.

THE REQUESTED C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS ALSO AN APPROPRIATE ZONING.

THE PROPOSED REZONING CONSTITUTES A DOWN ZONING FROM C THREE GENERAL COMMERCIAL TO C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.

THE REQUESTED ZONING WILL REDUCE THE INTENSITY OF ALLOWABLE COMMERCIAL USES ON THE PROPERTY.

THE INTENDED PROJECT MA MATCHES THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT OF THE SURROUNDING AREA AND CREATES CONSISTENCY OF USES.

STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.

THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT.

THANK YOU.

WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE.

GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.

EMILY WEISLER WITH KILLING GRIFFIN AND FAIRMAN 1 0 1 0 1 REUNION PLACE HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.

UM, STAFF IS PULLING UP A PRESENTATION.

WE CAN START IT.

SLIDE TWO.

UM, AS STAFF MENTIONED, THIS PROPERTY IS JUST UNDER TH UH, HALF AN ACRE, UM, LOCATED AT 8 0 3 CASTROVILLE.

UM, THIS IS A SMALL PAD SITE, UM, WITHIN THE LOST PALM SHOPPING CENTER.

UM, SO WE'RE SURROUNDED BY VARIOUS COMMERCIAL USES, LARGE H U B, DIFFERENT RESTAURANTS, COMMERCIAL USES, UH, SAN FERNANDO CATHED, UH, CEMETERIES ACROSS THE STREET FROM US.

UM, SO COMPLETELY SURROUNDED BY COMMERCIAL USES.

UH, THIS IS JUST A ZOOMED IN.

I'M GONNA USE THIS POINTER IF I CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO USE IT.

UH, THE STAR IS WHERE THAT SMALL PAD SITE WILL BE GOING.

FRONTING CASTROVILLE.

UM, BUT THE RESTAURANT ITSELF, WHICH I'LL TALK ABOUT IN A SECOND, IS ACTUALLY GONNA BE FRONTING GENERAL MCMULLEN.

UM, SO THIS IS JUST UNDEVELOPED, WELL DEVELOPED PARKING AREA HERE IN THE SHOPPING CENTER WHERE WE'LL BE PUTTING THE PROPOSED RESTAURANT.

AND THIS IS JUST, UH, ANOTHER VIEW OF IT.

YOU CAN SEE SOLD BOOBIES.

UM, THIS IS A RENTA CENTER RIGHT HERE, HB ON THE BACKSIDE CLOSER TO GENERAL MCMULLEN.

AND WE'LL BE HERE, DOWN HERE.

FRONTING CASTROVILLE.

SO THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONE C THREE R.

UM, ALL OF THE LOST PALM SHOPPING CENTER IS, UM, THE R RESTRICTS AGAINST ON-PREMISE CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL.

WE ARE PROPOSING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO C TWO TO ALLOW FOR A MAMBO SEAFOOD RESTAURANT.

IT'S A FAMILY RESTAURANT CHAIN OUT OF HOUSTON, UM, THAT IS UNDERGOING, UM, SOME EXPANSION HERE IN SAN ANTONIO.

SEVERAL RESTAURANTS UNDERWAY.

UM, AND WE ARE PROPOSING TO PUT ONE HERE IN THE LAS PALM SHOPPING CENTER.

UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MAMBO.

UM, MAMBOS, A SEAFOOD RESTAURANT, AMERICAN LATIN AND PACIFIC SEAFOOD FLAVORS.

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UM, THEY'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS SINCE THE MID NINETIES.

UM, YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

THANK YOU.

SO, UM, IN ADDITION TO FAMILY ROOTS, FAMILY ORIGINS, UM, THE MAMBA RESTAURANT, THEIR CULTURE, THEIR DRIVE, UM, IS CREATING A FAMILY RESTAURANT EXPERIENCE.

SO THIS IS A PLACE WHERE FAMILIES, UM, CAN DINE, GATHER, CELEBRATE, UM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE PLACE THAT YOU MEET EVERY WEDNESDAY AND HAVE DINNER WITH YOUR FAMILY.

UM, AND SO WE'RE HOPING TO BRING THAT INTO THE LOST PALM SHOPPING CENTER NEXT.

THANK YOU.

UH, IN ADDITION TO BEING A NEW BUSINESS, UM, MAMBO IS VERY EXCITED, UM, AND ANXIOUSLY WAITING THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE, UM, A NEW NEIGHBOR AND COMMUNITY PARTNER, UH, WITH LAS PALM AND, AND THIS WEST SIDE COMMUNITY HERE.

THEY HAVE A LONG, UM, IMPORTANT HISTORY WITH BEING STRONG COMMUNITY SPONSORS, UM, IN THEIR, IN THEIR HOUSTON OPERATIONS, UM, AND REALLY ALL OVER TEXAS.

UH, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE EMPLOYMENT.

SO WITH A NEW RESTAURANT DEVELOPMENT, MAMBO CREATES BACK APPROXIMATELY 70 NEW POSITIONS.

UM, WE MET WITH THE COMMUNITY, LOS THOMAS WEST SIDE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, COALITION REPRESENTATIVES.

HAD A WHOLE MEETING LAST WEEK ABOUT THIS, UM, WITH A COMMITMENT TO HIRING LOCALLY.

UM, SO THERE WILL BE MAYBE ONE OR TWO TRANSFERS FROM THE HOUSTON AREA INTO, UM, THIS NEW LOCATION.

BUT THIS LOCATION WILL BE PREDOMINANTLY, UH, LOCALLY HIRED.

UM, ONE REALLY SPECIAL THING ABOUT MAMBO IS THE WAY THAT THEIR COMPANY OPERATES AND THE RETENTION THAT IS A RESULT OF THAT OPERATION.

SO YOU HAVE SEVERAL MEMBERS, UM, THAT HAVE BEEN PART OF THE MAMBA OPERATION SINCE THE VERY BEGINNING.

THERE ARE MEMBERS CELEBRATING 10, 15, 25 YEARS OF EMPLOYMENT WITH MAMBO.

SO IT'S A VERY, VERY LOW TURNOVER, UM, VERY HIGH RETENTION RATE, REALLY STRONG, UM, REALLY STRONG RATE FAMILY ORIENTED RESTAURANT.

SO THE, AGAIN, THE PROPERTY ZONE C THREE ARE, THAT ARE RESTRICTS AGAINST ON-PREMISE ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION.

SO WE ARE REZONING TO ALLOW FOR ON-PREMISE CONSUMPTION WITHIN THE RESTAURANT.

UH, THIS WILL BE BEER AND WINE ONLY THAT IS REGULATED BY T A B C.

UM, MAMBO HAS A VERY STRICT, UM, ALCOHOL SERVICE POLICY THAT THEY RUN WITH THEIR EMPLOYEES, UM, AND ALSO ALL OF THEIR CUSTOMERS THERE.

UM, BUT THERE IS NO HARD LIQUOR SERVED AT THIS, UM, AT MAMBO.

SO THESE ARE BEER, WINE, MARGARITAS, THAT SORT OF THING.

UM, BUT SOMETHING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO MAMBO TO THEIR ENTIRE ORGANIZATION IS THAT YOU ARE NOT COMING TO A MAMBO RESTAURANT TO DRINK.

YOU ARE COMING TO A MAMBO RESTAURANT TO EAT AND TO GATHER AND SPEND TIME WITH YOUR FAMILY.

SO THE, THE BEVERAGE IS ALCOHOL OR NON-ALCOHOLIC, UM, ARE IN ADDITION TO THE MENU.

UM, THEY'RE NOT A DRIVING FORCE.

THIS IS NOT AN INTERNAL BAR SET UP.

AGAIN, NO HARD LIQUOR.

SO VERY SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD ORIENTED OPERATION.

OH, GOT A LITTLE EXCITED.

UH, THIS IS JUST A LOOK AT SOME OF THE MENU OFFERINGS HERE AT MAMBO.

UM, THEY ARE KNOWN FOR THEIR FRIED RICE, UM, BUT ALSO ALL OF THEIR SEAFOOD OFFERINGS.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO AGAIN, UM, THIS IS A VERY SMALL POINT.

3 8, 8 ACRES, UM, WITHIN THE LOST PALMA SHOPPING CENTER.

WE HAVE MET WITH THE COMMUNITY.

UM, HAD A VERY, VERY PRODUCTIVE, REALLY GOOD MEETING LAST WEEK.

UM, AND I DO BELIEVE THAT GLORIA AND VELMA HERE WILL SPEAK TO THAT.

UM, WE ARE WORKING ON A SITE PLAN, UM, AND I'VE COMMITTED TO HAVING THAT WHILE IN ADVANCE OF GOING TO COUNCIL.

THIS DOES NOT GO TO COUNCIL UNTIL AUGUST.

SO WE WILL HAVE THAT SITE PLAN, CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN OF HOW THE RESTAURANT WILL LAY OUT ON THE PROPERTY, UH, FOR THEM AND MEET WITH THEM AGAIN.

BUT RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT TODAY FOR THE REZONING TO SEE TOO.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

WE HAVE, YES, WE HAVE SPEAKERS SIGNED UP.

YES, WE DO.

WE HAVE ANY VOICEMAILS? WE HAVE NO VOICEMAILS, BUT WE DO HAVE TWO SPEAKERS.

UH, FIRST IS MS. GLORIA HERNANDEZ TO BE FOLLOWED BY MS. VELMA PENA.

UH, GOOD AFTERNOON.

UH, MY NAME IS GLORIA HERNANDEZ AND MY ADDRESS IS 37 23 EL PASO STREET.

I AM THE PRESIDENT OF LAS PALMAS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND ALSO PART THE WEST SIDE COALITION.

AND, UH, YES, WE MET WITH, UH, THE MAMBO REPRESENTATIVES, EMILY AND, UM, THE INVESTORS.

AND, UH, WE WERE VERY HAPPY THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOMETHING NEW IN IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, WE HOPE IT'LL BE UPSCALE 'CAUSE WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.

UH, BUT ONE REASON, UH, THAT WE WERE HERE IS THAT WE WANTED TO BE SURE THAT THERE WAS A SIDE PLAN.

UH, CURRENTLY WE DID NOT SEE A SIDE PLAN AND, UM, WE SAW THE PICTURES AS YOU SAW HERE.

IT WAS THE SAME PRESENTATION.

SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS NICE TO SEE THAT, UM, FROM THEIR HOUSTON RESTAURANT.

BUT, UH, WE'D WANNA HAVE A, A CONVERSATION WITH THEM, MAYBE WITH, UM, GO INTO A, MAYBE A PRIVATE

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AGREEMENT WITH MAYBE THE HOURS OF OPERATION, MAYBE LOCATION OF DUMPSTERS SINCE IT'LL ALL BE OPEN AND IF THERE'LL BE ANY KIND OF PRIVACY FENCE PUT AROUND IT JUST FOR THEM FOR THE LOOK.

UM, ALSO, UM, THIS WILL BE THE FIRST BUSINESS ON THIS PARKING LOT AREA AND THE FIRST BUSINESS TO ASK FOR, UH, OR TO SERVE, UM, UH, BEVERAGE, ALCOHOL, BEVERAGE BEVERAGES.

BUT, UH, WE HOPE IT'LL BE NICE.

UH, WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.

UM, WE, WE ARE FOR THE BUSINESS.

UM, OTHER THAN, UH, WE'D JUST LIKE TO NOTE THAT, UM, A 20 YEAR LEASE WAS SIGNED, UH, WITH THE MALL AND WE JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHY IT WAS SIGNED BEFORE IT, THEY MET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, BUT THAT WAS KIND OF OUR OWN, OUR BIG QUESTION.

BUT, UM, OTHER THAN THAT, UH, WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THEM, UH, HAVING AN, A NEIGHBORHOOD FEELING, UH, HAVING OUR NEIGHBORS GO AND ENJOY AND BE A FAMILY THERE AND, UM, WORKING TOGETHER WITH US.

THAT'S, THAT'S MAINLY WHAT WE WE'D LIKE TO SEE.

SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AND THEN NEXT WE HAVE MS. VELMA PENA.

GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN.

VELMA PENA.

YES.

AND WE DID MEET, MEET WITH THEM AS A COALITION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT'S AROUND THIS, UH, AREA.

AND WE DO AGREE WE DO NEED BUSINESSES THERE.

WE, WE WANNA WELCOME THEM ALL.

WE HAD, WE DID HAVE QUESTIONS BECAUSE THERE WAS NO SIDE PLAN.

WE'RE VISUAL.

WE KIND OF WANNA SEE, YOU KNOW, THE LANDSCAPING, WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE.

UM, ECHOING SOME OF THE, UH, THINGS THAT, UM, MS. HERNANDEZ SAID, YOU KNOW, UM, A NICE BUILDING.

YOU KNOW, WE, WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT ALSO THE, THE DUMPSTERS ARE JUST NOT JUST OUT IN THE OPEN BECAUSE THERE'S A BANK BEHIND THEM.

AND I THINK, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THEY MENTIONED THAT THE BUILDING WAS GONNA BE FACING GENERAL MCMULLEN, SO THAT MEANS THAT THEIR BACK IS GOING TO BE FACING THE BANK, YOU KNOW, SO, UH, WE JUST WANTED TO LOOK VERY NICE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT IS GOING TO BE, IF IT'S APPROVED, YOU KNOW, FOR ALCOHOL, WE ARE A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

BUT, UH, WE'RE HOPING THAT, THAT THE INVESTORS, UM, REALLY, UH, TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION EVERYTHING THAT WE TOLD THEM AT THE MEETING, HOW CONCERNED WE ARE.

AND, UH, THEY ALSO, WE ALSO ASKED, YOU KNOW, FOR THEM TO INCLUDE US AS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS SO WE CAN CREATE THAT PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM.

YOU KNOW, UH, THEY SHOWED A VIDEO OF SAYING THAT THEY DO COMMUNITY, UM, UH, I DON'T KNOW, FUNDRAISING OR SCHOLARSHIPS.

SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT, YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE NOT AGAINST THE ESTABLISHMENT.

WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THE AESTHETICS LOOKS NICE, THE LANDSCAPING LOOKS NICE, AND THAT IT'S ALL, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN APPEALING TO THE, TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE WANT GOOD THINGS COMING INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S IT FOR SPEAKERS.

ALRIGHT.

UH, DID YOU WANT TO SHORT REBUTTAL? JUST I'LL BE BRIEF.

UM, BUT I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO GLORIA AND VELMA FOR, FOR MEETING US WITH US LAST WEEK, UH, FOR TAKING THE TIME TO, TO STAY HERE AND HANG ON WITH US THIS AFTERNOON.

UH, WE ARE WORKING ON A, A CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN THAT SHOWS THAT LAYOUT, UM, DUMPSTER LOCATION, LANDSCAPING, FENCING, UH, TO ADDRESS ALL OF THOSE ISSUES.

AND AS SOON AS THAT'S READY, UH, WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO, TO THE ENTIRE COALITION, UM, AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD SO WE CAN MEET AND WORK THROUGH THOSE, THOSE FINER DETAILS HERE.

SO THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE CASE, SO COMMISSIONER BUSANTE TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH MS. WEISLER, IF I MAY, AND I THINK YOU MISSED A PART OF YOUR LAST STATEMENT BEFORE IT GOES TO CITY COUNCIL.

YES.

BEFORE IT GOES TO CITY COUNCIL, WE WILL BRING THE SITE PLAN BACK TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD WELL BEFORE WE GO TO CITY COUNCIL.

OKAY.

AND YOU'RE CURRENTLY SCHEDULED TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL IN AUGUST, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.

ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

I THINK THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE AT THIS TIME.

ALRIGHT, GREAT.

UM, COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER BARTOS? NO, I'M JUST GONNA MAKE SOME COMMENTS THAT, THAT IT'S A GREAT SOURCE OF EMPLOYMENT WHETHER THEY HIRE 70 OR 90 PEOPLE.

IT'S JUST A GREAT, UH, RESTAURANTS PROVIDE A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY FOR PEOPLE, UH, COMPLETING COLLEGE DEGREES AND ALL THAT.

SO, UH, I'M GONNA VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

UM, OTHER, NO OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS MY LEFT COMMISSION ON MY RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER? WE, YEAH, I'M GLAD TO SEE, UH, DIFFERENT DINING OPTIONS AVAILABLE IN THAT AREA BECAUSE, UH, FOLKS WHO LIVE, WHO WORK OUT AT THE, UH, PORT OF SAN ANTONIO ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD BE LIKELY WOULD BE VERY WELCOMED.

ALRIGHT, GREAT.

YES.

COMMISSIONER, RAISE COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND I, I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT JUST WANNA

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CLARIFY, NO NEW ACCESS WILL BE REQUIRED ON CASHIER BILL.

UM, I DON'T BELIEVE SO.

I, I BELIEVE, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S GONNA BE AN ADDITIONAL CURB CUT.

THERE IS JUST EXISTING, UH, SORRY I'M LOSING, UH, RIGHT HERE, WHICH IS ACTUALLY PARALLEL, UH, WITH THE CEMETERY ACCESS.

SO THAT'LL BE THAT ACCESS POINT.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A NEW CURB CUT.

UM, BUT IF, IF THERE IS, THAT'LL BE COORDINATED WITH TEXT ON SAN ANTONIO.

AND FINALLY, THERE ARE NO CURRENT PHYSICAL BARRIERS FOR CROSS AXI CIRCULATION WITHIN THE PARKING LOT.

NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF, NO.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THANKS.

UH, COMMISSIONER BUSANTE TO YOU FOR A MOTION.

OKAY, THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

UM, SO UNDERSTANDING THE NEIGHBOR'S CONCERNS AND DESIRE FOR A SITE PLAN, BUT TRUSTING THE APPLICANT WHO HAS DONE A GOOD JOB TALKING TO THEM AND WHO COMES BEFORE US FREQUENTLY.

UM, I'M GONNA MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM ON THE REPRESENTATION THAT THE SITE PLANS WILL BE DELIVERED WELL AHEAD OF CITY COUNCIL.

SO I MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER 15.

ALRIGHT, IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT.

ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BUSA MONTE FOR APPROVAL SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BOTTLES, UH, DISCUSSION.

LOOKING LEFT.

I DID WANNA SAY ONE OTHER THING.

YES.

UH, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE OTHER BIG ISSUES WITH THIS IS THAT THIS IS A DOWN ZONING, UH, FROM C THREE TO C TWO.

AND SO THAT'S THE TRADE-OFF FOR THE REMOVAL OF THE R.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? LOOKING LEFT.

LOOKING RIGHT? UH, MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL.

ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER BUSANTE AYE.

COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES.

COMMISSIONER FUENTES.

AYE.

COMMISSIONER REYES? AYE.

COMMISSIONER, WE AYE.

COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES.

CHAIR S SIPES? YES.

ITEM PASSES.

ALRIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE ITEM BACK UP TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT AND UNFORTUNATELY IT APPEARS THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER WATSON'S SIGNAL WAS NOT STRONG ENOUGH TO STAY WITH US, BUT WE WILL STILL HEAR THE CASE.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

CAMERON BLACKMAN ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS LOCATED AT 2 1 0 2 MARTIN LUTHER KING DRIVE GOING FROM RMM FOUR RESIDENTIAL MIXED DISTRICT TO IDZ TWO MEDIUM INTENSITY IN FULL DEVELOPMENT ZONE DISTRICT WITH USES PERMITTED FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.

THERE WERE 40 NOTICES SENT OUT.

ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND NO RESPONSE FROM DEVER HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

THE EXISTING RMM FOUR RESIDENTIAL MIXED DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.

THE REQUESTED ID Z TWO MEDIUM INTENSITY INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE DISTRICT WITH USES PERMITTED FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS IS ALSO AN APPROPRIATE ZONING.

THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED AND IS LOCATED ON OTHER PROPERTIES ZONED R FOUR AND IDZ TWO.

THE AREA CURRENTLY ACCOMMODATES COMPARABLE RESIDENTIAL DENSITIES ON LOTS PLACED INIZED SIMILARLY TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

EVEN THOUGH THE EXISTING RM FOUR BASE ZONING DISTRICT PERMITS FOUR DWELLING UNITS, THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE NOW REQUIRES THE UNITS TO BE ATTACHED FOR LOTS THAT ARE UNDER A THIRD OF AN ACRE.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING I D Z TWO TO ALLOW FOUR DETACHED STRUCTURES.

IDZ TWO BASE ZONING REQUIRES A PRESCRIBED SITE PLAN, WHICH INDICATES THE USE OF THE PROPERTY AND PLACEMENT OF STRUCTURES.

ANY MAJOR AMENDMENTS TO THE SITE PLAN WILL REQUIRE, REQUIRE ADDITIONAL ZONING CONSIDERATION.

STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.

THE PROPOSED LAND IS CONSISTENT OR THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEV ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.

MOST OF THE AREA IS ZONED RM FOUR RESIDENTIAL MIX.

DISTRICT STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ALL RIGHT, IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME'S EMIL MONTE VICE.

I'M AN ARCHITECT AND A CITY PLANNER AND I'M WITH TOWN PLANNING AND DESIGN LIMITED LIABILITY CORPORATION.

UM, I SENT A DOCUMENT IN, I CAN MAKE THAT PRESENTATION IF THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL WOULD LIKE.

CAMERON, THE DOCUMENT I SENT YOU? YEAH, DID WE RECEIVE A DOCUMENT I HAVE NOT RECEIVED.

I SENT IT TO YOU IN AN EMAIL.

WE CAN PROJECT THINGS AS WELL, SO IF YOU'VE GOT PRINT, WELL MAYBE, UH, I CAN DO IT FROM HERE.

I

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I DID NOT KNOW THAT.

WHOA.

THERE YOU GO.

THAT'S COOL.

YES, THAT'S JUST THE INFORMATION I GAVE YOU.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, THIS IS 2102 M I K DRIVE ZONING.

UH, WE'RE GOING FROM A R M FOUR TO I D Z TWO, LIMITED DEVELOPMENT ZONE DISTRICT, UH, WITH USES PERMITTED FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS.

THE OWNERSHIP IS A AND B, CAPITAL L L C.

IT'S OWNED BY RAFAEL RA, WHO HAS BEEN, HE'S BEEN DESIGNING CONSTRUCTING RESIDENTIAL HOMES FOR OVER 20 YEARS.

AND THE FIRM STARTED HERE IN SAN ANTONIO IN 2018.

UM, HE'S THE DEVELOPER.

I'M THE ARCHITECT, URBAN PLANNER AND THE ENGINEERS IS COMPANY.

THIS IS JUST SORT OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF SOME OF THE AREAS THAT, UH, HE'S BEEN DEVELOPING IN.

UH, PEARL BREWERY AREA.

WE'VE GOT TWO PROJECTS THERE.

DENVER HEIGHTS AREA.

WE HAVE SEVEN PROJECTS IN THAT AREA.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

THIS, THE ROUND CIRCLE THERE, SORT OF GIVE YOU A LOCATION OF WHERE WE ARE ON M L K AND YOU'LL SEE THAT M L K AND BODETT, OR BODE, I GUESS IS YOUR FRENCH .

AND I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT, IF YOU GO FURTHER SOUTH ON BODE, THERE'S SIX UNITS BEING BUILT DOWN THERE.

SO I'LL GIVE YOU A CONTEXT IN TERMS OF, UH, THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING ON.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

THIS IS JUST THE, UH, LOT ITSELF.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

AND THIS IS THE, THE FOUR DIFFERENT LOTS THAT WE WANT TO BREAK IT INTO.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

AND THIS, THIS IS JUST GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE, UH, CAN, CAN YOU INCREASE THAT A LITTLE BIT IN SIZE? WE FOUND THE, UM, OH, THERE, OKAY.

THE, THE F YOU CAN SEE THE PARKINGS SPACE ON THE RIGHT.

THEN YOU ENTER, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE LIVING DINING AREA.

THEN YOU GO UPSTAIRS AND WE HAVE, UH, THREE LIVE, THREE UH, BEDROOMS ON THE SECOND LEVEL.

SO, SO THAT SORT OF GIVE YOU THAT IT'S ABOUT 1100 SQUARE FEET OF, OF, OF HOUSING FOR THE AREA.

SO THAT'S SORT OF AN IDEA OF WHAT IT MAY LOOK LIKE.

UH, I'M, I WANNA POINT OUT THAT THE REASON WE WANNA DIVIDE IT UP INTO FOUR UNITS OR FOUR LOTS, WE WANNA SELL IT FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

AND WE THINK BY DOING THAT, THAT THAT HAS MORE CONSISTENT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND MORE VALUE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, AS YOU ALL KNOW IT HAVE MORE VALUE AND KEEPS UP THE PROPERTY.

PROPERTY'S, PROPERTY'S KEPT UP A LOT BETTER THAN RENTAL PROPERTY.

I MEAN, UH, MIGHT ALSO POINT OUT WE HAD A DEVELOPMENT ON, UH, THAT WE GOT APPROVED.

IT'S ON THE CORNER OF MONUMENTAL AND ML CAGES UP THE ROAD.

AND THAT WAS FOR DUPLEX.

AND WE HAVE ONE SINGLE FOR THAT DUPLEX.

WE HAVE TWO PARKING SPACES, ONE ON EACH SIDE OF THE DUPLEX.

SO THE CODE REQUIRES US TO HAVE, UH, ONE PARKING EACH UNIT.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS WE WILL SEE? DO WE HAVE ANY, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT FIRST? WE DO.

WE HAVE MR. ERIC PSAD HERE TO SPEAK.

UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, ERIC, TED, I'M THE GENTLEMAN DOING THE SIX LOTS RIGHT DOWN THE STREET AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM WITH THEIR DESIGN, BUT WE DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE AMOUNT OF PARKING THAT THEY'RE PRESENTING.

UH, THEY WANT TO DO THREE TWOS AND WITH ONLY ONE PARKING, UH, BETTE PLACE IS, UH, IT'S A NICE LITTLE SIDE STREET.

DOESN'T GET A LOT OF TRAFFIC, BUT IT JUST DEAD ENDS AT THE END AND THERE'S NO CUL-DE-SAC.

SO, AND THE CURRENT RESIDENCE, PRETTY MUCH ALL PARK ON THE STREET.

SO WE HAVE, ON OURS WE'RE DOING THREE TWOS AS WELL, THREE, TWO AND A HALF, UH, UNITS THAT WE'RE GOING TO SELL.

BUT WE HAVE A TWO CAR GARAGE AND THEIR SPACE IN THE DRIVEWAY FOR, UM, UH, FOR A, A CAR TO BE PARKED OFF THE STREET.

AND SO THAT IS WHY I CAME DOWN IS IF, LIKE I SAID, I DON'T REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WHAT THEY'RE DESIGNING, IT'S JUST IF WE COULD GET AS MUCH PARKING ON SITE AS POSSIBLE.

UM, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, BETTE PLACE IS A LITTLE BIT NARROW AND THEN, AND IT'S GONNA BE RIGHT THERE AT THE CORNER OF M L K AND UM, AND BETTE PLACE.

SO IT'S ALL GONNA BE STACKED RIGHT THERE.

AND SO THAT'S WHY WE, THAT'S LIKE I SAID, SO

[02:10:01]

I WOULD SAY OUR, YOU KNOW, WE, I GUESS WE WOULD SAY IS WE'RE FOR IT WITH SOME RESERVATIONS WOULD BE THAT, AND WE JUST WANT TO, UM, AND ONE OF THE REASONS WHY IS THAT THIS AREA HAS NOT SEEN THE DEVELOPMENT YET.

IT'S COMING.

UH, AND SO I THINK PARKING IS GOING TO, IT'S NOT QUITE AN ISSUE YET, BUT WE GET, WE GET SOME MORE, IT WILL START BUBBLING UP IN THAT COMMUNITY.

AND THAT'S, SO THAT WAS WHAT I CAME DOWN TO SAY.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU.

IS THAT THE END OF PUBLIC COMMENT? CORRECT.

THERE'S NO MORE, UM, SPEAKERS OR VOICEMAILS OR ANYTHING.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU.

UH, MR. S DID YOU WANNA HAVE A SHORT REBUTTAL? YEAH, I, I, UH, WANNA SHOW SURE.

HIS, HIS PROPERTY AND RELATIONSHIP TO OURS.

UH, JUST SO OUR PROPERTY'S THE RMM 4 21 0 2 UP ON THE CORNER AND HIS IS DOWN HERE WITH THE SIX UNITS.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE MEETING THE CODE.

THERE'S NOTHING ELSE THAT WE NEED HAVE TO DO IN TERMS OF, OF MEETING THE CODE.

AND THEN IF WE DON'T, WE WANT THE ZONING SIMPLY BECAUSE WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN DIVIDE IT UP AND SELL IT A SINGLE FAMILY LOT BECAUSE WE THINK, AGAIN, THAT'LL HOLD A LOT OF VALUE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND BE BETTER FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS OPPOSED TO PROPERTIES THAT ARE RENT, RENT OUT, LIKE DUPLEXES AND THAT NATURE.

SO WE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING.

WE'RE DOING IT BY THE CODE AND, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, WE MAY ANTICIPATE IF WE SEE A PROBLEM DOWN THE ROAD, WE HAVE THE AREA TO EXTEND PARKING, HAVE A SPACE FOR ANOTHER PARKING IN FRONT.

BUT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, BASED ON OUR COST ESTIMATES AND EVERYTHING, WE'RE, WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH WHERE WE ARE.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM.

, UM, THIS IS A DISTRICT TWO CASE.

UNFORTUNATELY COMMISSIONER WATSON HAS HAD CONNECTIVITY ISSUES.

UM, SO, UH, COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE, DID YOU WANNA TAKE THIS CASE? I'LL TAKE IT.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

UM, AS THE CHAIR MENTIONED, I'M TRYING TO STAND IN FOR COMMISSIONER WATSON, WHICH IS GONNA BE AN IMPOSSIBLE TASK 'CAUSE SHE IS SO GREAT.

UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, I GUESS MR. MONSA, UH, VE I WANNA START WITH YOU.

YOU MENTIONED THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE ISSUES IS, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, BY DIVIDING UP INTO FOUR SEPARATE LOTS AND FOUR STANDALONE BUILDINGS, UM, THAT'S TO ALLOW FOR THE SALE OF THESE PROPERTIES, CORRECT? CORRECT.

ALRIGHT.

UH, BUT IT'S NOT UNCOMMON TO HAVE TOWN HOMES OR OTHER STRUCTURES THAT, YOU KNOW, COULD SHARE A COMMON WALL AND HAVE THOSE FOR INDIVIDUAL SALE AS WELL.

DID YOU? WELL, ON THE RMM FOUR, YOU CAN HAVE MULTIFAMILY.

I GUESS THAT WOULD, YOU'D HAVE TO ASK.

OKAY.

BUT JUST AS A GENERAL PRINCIPLE, DID Y'ALL THINK ABOUT THAT AT ALL? OH, I'M, I'M RELATING IT TO THIS ZONING.

OKAY.

WHAT R M FOUR ALLOWS.

OKAY.

IT DOESN'T ALLOW MULTIFAMILY.

I'M GONNA, OKAY, SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT THEN.

STAFF, I'M GONNA COME TO YOU.

IS THAT CORRECT? STAFF? RMM FOUR WOULD ALLOW FOUR UNITS, FOUR UNITS.

FOUR UNITS.

MM-HMM.

WITH A COMMON WALL.

YES.

IT HAS TO HAVE A COMMON WALL UNDER THE U D C.

THERE HAS TO BE UNDER THE NEW CODE.

YES.

AT COMMON WALL.

MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

SO THE, THE PURPOSE OF GETTING THE ALLOW FOR NO COMMON WALL, IS THAT A FAIR DESCRIPTION? NO, THE PURPOSE IS TO CREATE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE FOUR DIVIDED UP IN FOUR DIFFERENT LOTS.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT, I THINK I GOT IT.

OKAY.

UM, OKAY.

UM, NOW THIS PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 6,300 FEET TOTAL.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO CHECK MY MATH HERE REALLY QUICKLY.

SO THAT ENDS UP WITH, YOU KNOW, FOUR EQUAL, RIGHT? LOTS AT WHAT? 15 70 15 75.

YEAH, THAT'S, UH, SO 1575 AND IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT UNDER THAT.

AND GIVEN SORT OF THE FOOTPRINT OF THESE INDIVIDUAL HOUSES TO SQUEEZE TWO PARKING SPACE SPACES ON EACH LOT, DO YOU THINK THAT'S FAIR? NO, WE COULD SQUEEZE, WE COULD, WE COULD PUT ANOTHER PARKING SPACE IN FRONT OF THE ONE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.

SO YOU WOULD HAVE A, THE, THE PROBLEM THERE WOULD BE YOU'D HAVE A HOUSE.

IT PRETTY MUCH THE ENTIRE ONE OF THE WALLS ON THAT SIDE WOULD BE ALL CONCRETE AS OPPOSED TO, UH, A NATURAL GRASS.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

I THINK THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW.

ALL RIGHT.

[02:15:01]

THANK YOU.

UH, QUESTIONS? UH, FELLOW COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? NONE.

COMMISSIONER'S ON MY RIGHT? NONE.

UH, LET ME SEE WHAT'S, SO IT'S A 40, THE, THE LOT LOOKS LIKE IT HAS A DEPTH OF 45 FEET.

SO 20 AND 20.

YEAH.

UH, ESSENTIALLY YOU COULD, YOU COULD PUT TWO SPOTS.

IT'D BE TANDEM PARKING.

UM, ALL RIGHT.

UH, COMMISSIONER BUSANTE TO YOU FOR A POSSIBLE MOTION.

WELL, I THINK, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THE PROBLEMS AND BECAUSE OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS POINT, UM, AND THE SITE PLAN AS PRESENTED AND THE ABSENCE OF COURSE OF COMMISSIONER WATSON AT THIS POINT, I'M GONNA MOVE FOR CONTINUANCE TO THE JUNE 20TH MEETING.

ALL RIGHT.

THERE'S A MOTION FOR A SECOND CONTINUANCE I SECOND AND COM.

OKAY.

MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE.

YOU WANNA LAUGH ABOUT IT? TO, UH, TO JUNE 20TH.

UH, MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES DISCUSSION, LOOKING LEFT.

LOOKING RIGHT.

NO, I AGREE.

AND, UH, COMMISSIONER WATSON DID TEXT AND SAY THAT THAT IS A, UM, WHAT SHE WOULD PREFER AS WELL.

SO IF WE COULD HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE.

COMMISSIONER BUS.

SAMANTHA AYE.

COMMISSIONER FUENTES? AYE.

COMMISSIONER REYES? AYE.

COMMISSIONER, WE AYE.

COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES.

COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES.

BARROS? YES.

CHAIR SIPES? YES.

ITEM PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

[    18.  Approval of Minutes              Consideration and approval of the May 16, 2023 Zoning Commission Minutes.]

I BELIEVE OUR FINAL ITEM IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

SO WE WILL SEE Y'ALL IN TWO WEEKS.

UM, SO IS THERE A MOTION FOR MINUTES? ? NO.

ONE I MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM MAY 16TH.

ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BUSTA MONTE.

SECOND BY WHO? MAY.

UH, COMMISSIONER WE WILL DO THIS.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? HEARING NONE.

ALRIGHT.

THAT IS APPROVED.

DO WE HAVE A DIRECTOR'S REPORT? I'M TRYING TO THINK OF ANYTHING IMPORTANT.

NOPE.

ALL GOOD.

ALRIGHT, GREAT.

SOMETHING.

OH, COMMISSIONER BARROS HAS A COMMENTARY.

OH, THE .

OH, UH, IT'S FINE.

I'VE GOTTEN USED TO LOOKING AT THE, WE JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW THE TIME CAN STAND STILL.

THAT'S RIGHT.

YEAH.

WHICH IS AN AWESOME SONG BY RUSH BY THE WAY.

ALRIGHT.

UM, YOU ARE FROM SAN ANTONIO? YEAH, .

ALRIGHT.

UM, THE TIME IS 3 34 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.

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