* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:16] PERSONNEL. PAA, SENIOR SPIELMAN PRESENTE. SENIOR CARRO PRESENTE, SENIOR MCA. PRESENTE HAYES, SENIOR HAYES. PRESENT. PRESENTE CRUZ. SENIOR CRUZ PRESENTE. SENIOR SUN. SENIOR BROWN. PRESENTE. SENIOR VASQUEZ PRESENTE. SENIOR BREMAN PRESENTE. SENIOR LUC PRESENTE. SENIOR EZ. CAN YOU HEAR US? YOUR ORIAN THUMBS UP. THERE YOU GO. SUPPORT OF REP. [00:06:30] I CAN. HAYES LAKE [00:11:24] IN FRENCH. DUPLEXES, TOWNHOUSE [00:15:38] GARCIA, JEFFERSON APPLES, WOODLAND LAKE S PLACEMENT. [00:21:09] FOSTER CONTRA, WEST RAMOS. WITNESS HOUSING. [00:28:30] OH, [00:32:56] COMPETITIVELY. [00:35:16] VASQUEZ. VASQUEZ. VASQUEZ CONSIST IMPORTANT WHEN I START [00:41:42] WOOD. [00:51:19] ZERO [00:51:20] ZERO. [00:59:48] HAYES CRUZ [01:00:09] VASQUEZ AVENUE. QUINCEANERA [01:07:06] GAN, [01:10:22] UM, GARCIA, [01:15:02] ANTONIO EL TOM SIMMONS. HUFFMAN. THERE. CORONADO. CORONADO [01:28:00] HAYES [01:28:03] CRUZ. SENIOR BROWN QUE THE NETWORKING [01:35:33] AIRBNB, [01:35:56] CONSIDERING WHEN I STARTED KING, [01:41:29] KING HIGHWAY IS ZERO THREE. 0 0 0. ANDREA IN SAN ANTONIO. SAN ANTONIO. [01:45:26] ANTONIO, WASHINGTON, DC RHODE ISLAND AVENUE. KINGS HIGHWAY. KINGS HIGHWAY. KINGS MONTICELLO. PARK. PARK IN SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS. IN KINGS HIGHWAY. MONTICELLO PARKS, KING HIGHWAY [01:51:18] TE JEFFERSON AND WOODLAWN O'CONNOR. O'CONNOR. DRIVE. PERSONAS. [01:55:26] KINGS HIGHWAY. AVENUE HIGHWAY. ANTONIO, TEXAS, JEFFERSON [02:01:05] WEST HIGHWAY. INSTAGRAM. [02:06:44] MENT I, [02:10:04] UM, JASON VAZQUEZ. JASON VAZQUEZ. WHEN I STARTED JASON VAZQUEZ VASQUEZ, SENIOR RA RA JEFFERSON GRACIA. [02:18:28] JIMMY PARKER. SORRY. JAMIE PARKER. DON'T KNOW. [02:21:17] PARKER. YOU PRINCIP [02:42:03] NO. [02:42:20] SENIOR. [02:42:22] NO [02:42:24] SENIOR HAYES. NO. SENIOR CRUZ JOAN. SENIOR BROWN. NO. SENIOR VASQUEZ. JOAN POJO. SENIOR IS THREE 50 MCDONALD FOR [02:46:36] KEN BROWN. MCDONALD'S. UH, I YES. THE HEART. [02:59:48] NO. [02:59:52] [03:02:16] I ADVISED STEVE SANDAL. BAN. RODRIGUEZ. ESTEBAN RODRIGUEZ. JUAN RODRIGUEZ. SORO. I. [03:05:48] JOSE. JOSE MEND. BEN MARIO RIOS. MARIO RIOS. E I AM MARIO RIOS. A PROBLEM. [03:15:22] NO. [03:15:24] NO. [03:23:22] RECOMMEND THAT TION [03:27:58] CONVERSATION. [03:31:42] HAYES CRUZ. RA BROWN. VASQUEZ BROWN. MCDONALD'S STREET CONSTRUCTION. KNOWS THE HIGHEST NUMBER. [03:36:13] VINE CONSTRUCTION HARDING. I, [03:43:17] MARIA CLARK. MARIA CLARK RODRIGUEZ. JUAN RODRIGUEZ. GARCIA ALVAREZ. JOSE MENDOZA. RODRIGUEZ. INTERSECTION [03:51:34] CON. [03:51:39] SENIOR HAYES CONCUR. SENIOR CRUZ CON. SENIOR BROWN CON VASQUEZ CON CON CON. YES. AND OKAY. MAGNOLIA [03:55:20] PERSONAS. [04:03:17] MAGNOLIA IN [04:09:30] I D [04:11:31] VASQUEZ, EUROPEAN [04:15:05] QUE. JASON VASQUEZ 23 21 7. [04:20:44] JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT. UM, I HAVE SOMEONE BRINGING IN. DO YOU NEED HOW MANY? TWO [04:30:55] ROBERT [04:30:56] ES ALEX GARCIA. PHONE NUMBER IS, UH, SIX FOUR THREE FOUR. SEVEN SIX. I'M CALLING REGARDING ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, LOCATED AT PARK NEIGHBORHOOD [04:38:20] MAGNOLIA. [04:40:25] I, I DO NOT. SENIOR CRUZ [04:46:21] AS ANOTHER FORM, [04:51:58] UH, [05:00:53] SCHOOL. [05:03:32] THE BOSS IS, WERE RELEASED THOSE [05:08:24] DRIVE. VEO CHAVEZ WEST. MULBERRY AVENUE. [05:10:50] GARCIA AVENUE. TIER ONE. YEAH. [05:15:08] FOR COOPER E. NO, IN MARIE COOPER. FAMILIAR. [05:23:41] UM, [05:28:11] CO TO RASPBERRY AVENUE. [05:30:54] PRESIDENT? YES. C SENIOR. SPELLMAN. NO. SENIOR BON. YES. C SENIOR DEAN. I DID NOT CONCUR. CRUZ. SENIOR HAYES. SENIOR HAYES. HAYES. SENIOR VASQUEZ. SENIOR BRAMAN. C JOSEPH. YOU KNOW THOSE TON? STREET, STREET. LOPEZ, BARRING [05:38:30] FRACTION. [05:40:42] ROBERT STREET. CRUZ CON CONMAN [05:45:01] CON SENIOR CON. SENIOR DEAN CON. SENIOR. SENIOR. CON. SENIOR. VAZQUEZ CON CON CONMAN. SENIOR CON CON SENIOR DEAN. CON CON [05:51:37] ANCHOS. E CLASSIFI. [05:58:29] MY [06:00:57] EL AND HEIGHTS [06:05:11] GON UM, [06:11:08] UM, CRUZ CON, SENIOR SPIELMAN TAM CON. SENIOR. SENIOR DEAN CON VASQUEZ CON PRESENT. [06:16:33] CECE, I [06:20:15] INTERPRET [06:29:46] COLEMAN. JOANNA COLEMAN. LAS [06:30:23] COLEMAN. I AM [06:37:37] INDIVIDUAL. TERESA AZAR OR RICHARD SALAZAR. I'M SORRY, SIR SANCHEZ. UH, RICHARD SANCHEZ. IAN. OKAY. . IS THIS A SENIOR SANCHEZ? OKAY. IS [06:41:09] WHAT IS THAT? HE HAS A DISLOCATED. AND SO HE ALSO SAID THAT BETWEEN THE GATE AND THE WALL'S, ABOUT A SQUARE ZERO ZERO NECESSARY. [06:46:22] SENIOR, SENIOR, SENIOR DEAN ES SENIOR VASQUEZ ES ANTONIO I [06:58:36] 900 [07:09:50] CON [07:09:51] SENIOR [07:09:52] SPIELMAN CONCOR. SENIOR CON. SENIOR [07:10:01] CON. SENIOR DEAN CON. SENIOR CRUZ. NO. HAYES CON. SENIOR VASQUEZ? NO. CON CON SENIOR CON. CRUZ CONCOR. SENIOR SPIELMAN CONCOR. SENIOR ILLA CONCOR. SENIOR MAN. CHAKA CONCOR. SENIOR DEAN. JOHN CON RA HAYES CON RA VAZQUEZ CON. UNA CON CON. [07:17:37] I ALSO, WHEN I STARTED, HE SAW RESPONS [07:21:10] WILSON [07:25:18] MONTE CRUZ [07:31:12] AFFECT CONSTRUCTION. SENIOR IS SENIOR. SENIOR SAN ANTONIO. [07:37:06] CONSTRUCTION IS USED. MA [07:41:22] IS SENIOR DEAN HAYES. SENIOR VASQUEZ ES SENIOR UNA [07:48:06] STREET. [07:50:16] A ANTE EVEN LIKE [08:00:57] HOME [08:01:51] AND SAYS, AND SAYS [08:07:38] HILLS. OKAY. [08:13:56] SENIOR, SENIOR. SENIOR. DEAN CRUZ VAZQUEZ [08:16:01] IN QUESTION. CORRECT. WILLIAMS. I SOLO MAXIMUM. S P S [08:21:32] SENIOR DEAN. SENIOR EHS HAYES VASQUEZ. SENIOR . [08:25:49] WHEN I STARTED RO [08:35:05] SCENARIO [08:36:01] SPIRIT TO THE NORTHERN NO AFFECT ON THE SENIOR DEAN. SENIOR [08:40:04] HAYES VASQUEZ. COMMISSIONER HAYES. [08:50:57] YES. [08:50:57] THIS IS [08:55:55] SAN ANTONIO. YEAH. SO ON THE [09:05:52] CHICOS, [09:14:35] THIS [09:14:35] IS OKAY. APPLICANT UNDERSTAND THAT TO EVERYBODY MEANS THIS [09:15:01] IS JOSEPH HARNEY WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. I'LL JUST TO REITERATE, THAT'S PART OF THE ROBERTS RULES ALLOWS FOR A MOTION TO RECONSIDER. SO IT IS, UM, HELPFUL TO HAVE AN ONGOING DISCUSSION. SO, AND AS THE WAS JUST MENTIONED, DIALOGUE DURING A DISCUSSION IS, IS ENCOURAGED TO MAKE EVERYBODY GET EVERYBODY ELSE'S PERSPECTIVE. UM, I I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I WANNA THANK THE STAFF FOR HAVING THE SNACKS EARLY. YOU PREVENTED A LOT OF FAINTING, SO APPRECIATE IT. SO HOW DO, HOW, I MEAN, AFTER WE DO THE RECONSIDER, IF WE SAY NO AGAIN, DOES IT KIND OF LIKE DRAGGED OUT, IT SEEMED LIKE SOME PRESSURE TO CHANGE VOTES, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? AND LIKE IT WAS NO, AND THEN IT'S NO AGAIN, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YOU KNOW, LIKE HOW DO I VOICE THAT? YOU KNOW, IF YOU, IF YES, IF YOU, IF YOU JUST MAKE IT CLEAR THAT, THAT, UM, YOUR VOTE IS FINAL, THAT'S, THAT'S THAT'S FINE. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO BE DOING THEN. UH, 'CAUSE I, I DON'T WANT TO DRAG OUT 'CAUSE I'M TYPICALLY, I'M NOT GONNA CHANGE MY VOTE. YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY I'M BRINGING THIS UP, YOU KNOW, AND I'M SURE MOST OF Y'ALL ARE, WHEN YOU'RE DECIDED YOU'RE NOT GONNA CHANGE YOUR VOTE, YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA MAKE A COMMENT ON THAT, THAT THAT MONTEZUMA CASE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS ARE FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA, BUT THAT AREA NEEDS HOMES. IT NEEDED HOMES AND WE JUST DELAYED IT, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THEY WENT ABOUT IT THE RIGHT WAY AND THEY WERE TRYING TO COMPROMISE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE. THAT'S WHY WE KEEP GOING BACK AND FORTH. WE'RE TRYING TO COME TO COMPROMISE, BUT WE COULD'VE GOT A HOUSE, HOUSE BUILT WHERE WE NEEDED THEM AND WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TODAY, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T GET IT DONE. UM, BUT THAT'S WHY I THINK THE COMPROMISE, IF THEY WERE TRYING TO FIGHT WITH YOU GUYS WAS TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE YOU GUYS SAY OKAY TO THIS HOUSE, YOU KNOW, TO GETTING THIS BUILT. UM, BUT, UM, ANYWAYS, THAT'S HOW I FEEL ABOUT THAT AMOUNT OF DECISION IS TODAY. AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT WAS. YOU KNOW, YOU SAY YOU'RE DEAD SET ON. NO, YOU NEED TO BE OPEN TO THIS. THAT'S, WE JUST GOTTA BE, YOU KNOW, WE GOT THINGS, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S LIKE NOT DEAD SET WITH COMPROMISE ON SOMETHING. BUT WHAT DO WE DO TO ACCOMMODATE YOU IN ANY WAY TO MAKE YOUR DECISION TO BE FLIPPED? YOU KNOW, WE, WE GOTTA KEEP THAT OPEN MINDED FOR DOING THIS. 'CAUSE LIKE I SAID, THERE'S FAMILIES THAT STAKE THOSE HOMES. SO MY ISSUE ISN'T, YOU KNOW, THE BIGGEST PART, BUT TWO UNITS ON THAT SMALL LOT, MY COMPROMISE WOULD'VE BEEN MORE SO ONE UNIT, BUT GOING THROUGH IT MORE. SO A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. WE GO THROUGH THIS AS LOOSELY FOLLOWING ROBERT'S RULE. SO WHEN I LOOK AT THIS AND I'VE SAT ON SEVERAL BOARDS, I STRICTLY HAVE FOLLOWED ROBERT, AND THAT'S WHY I DEFERRED TO LEGAL BECAUSE IF YOU WANTED TO CHANGE SOMETHING, THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. AND SO WE COULD HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. AND THEN TO ALSO ADD, AND I HAVE SENT AN EMAIL ALREADY FOR THIS DISCUSSION. HOWEVER, WHEN WE HAVE A DISCUSSION, WE, THAT IS NOT THE POINT IN TIME TO SAY HOW YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE, BECAUSE THEN WE DON'T NEED A VOTE. SO THIS IS JUDGE CARNEY WITH JOHNSON. SO YEAH, I AGREE. I FELT LIKE WE WERE ALREADY AT FINAL VOTE AND THEN WE WERE BEING ASKED TO RECONSIDER, YOU KNOW, I WAS CAST IN MY FINAL VOTE, YOU KNOW? RIGHT. AND SO I'M ASKED TO BE, THERE'S, THERE'S A WAY TO CONDUCT VOTE BEING ASKED TO PLAY. AND SO THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT. SO IF I HAD TO CAST MY FINAL VOTE, THEN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT IT'S THIS. BUT YEAH, I WOULD LOVE TO WORK TO A YES, YOU KNOW, BUT THERE ARE WAYS TO GET TO IT. SO IF WE'RE GONNA LOOSELY FOLLOW ROBERT'S RULE, THEN THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING, BUT END OF NOT FAMILIAR WITH WHAT ROBERT END OF IT IS. SO, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT, BUT I, I JUST THINK WE NEED TO KEEP AN OPEN MIND WITH, BUT THAT, NO, I WOULD LOVE TO WORK TO A YES, BUT LET'S, YOU KNOW, IF I'VE SAID NO, THEN THAT'S WHY I'M AT, THIS IS JOSEPH ARNEY AGAIN. SO HE COMES OFF, WE CAN HAVE A WORK SESSION TO, TO DISCUSS, UM, SOME OF THE INS AND OUTS AND GO OVER THE PUBLIC RULES AND VIDEO ON, ON THE PAGE. I'D JUST LIKE TO ADD THAT, THAT DURING DELIBERATION, IF YOU'RE OPPOSED TO SOMETHING, JUST, JUST, JUST SAY, I'M, I'M OPEN TO THIS OR I'M, I'M A HARD NOTE JUST TO PUT IT OUT THERE SO THAT EVERYBODY IS AWARE. THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT DURING THOSE DISCUSSIONS. THAT'S NOT WHEN YOU'RE VOTING DURING THE DISCUSSION IS WHEN RIGHT. I'M VOTING FINAL VOTE. I SUGGEST, I SUGGEST WE, WE JUST, WE JUST END THE DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW. AND THEN LIKE I SAY, WE CAN SCHEDULE A WORK SESSION AND GO OVER SOME PROCEDURE. OKAY. THANK, THANK THANKS EVERYBODY. WHEN, WHEN IS THE NEXT MEETING? UH, TWO THINGS. YES. YES. NEXT MEETING IS JULY THE 10TH AND IT WILL BE A LONGER ONE, BUT NOT A LOT OF CASES ON IT. BUT THERE ONE APPEAL THAT WILL TAKE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME. AND THEN, UH, THE NEXT MEETING AFTER THAT, UH, IS OUT AND [09:20:02] LIKE MARCO SAID, SO, UM, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR DEDICATED GROUP. I APPRECIATE IT. AND, UH, 7:00 PM OUCH. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.