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          ROLL CALL PLEASE. 
          MEMBER CASTILLO HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE CHAIR ROCHA GARCIA HERE, MA'AM, WE HAVE A QUORUM. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          WE'LL START OFF WITH ITEM NUMBER ONE, WHICH 
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IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM MAY 25TH OF THE P C D C MEETING. 
          I THINK EVERYBODY'S GOTTEN A CHANCE TO REVIEW. 
          IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? SO MOVED. 
          I SECOND. 
          THERE'S A MOTION. 
          AND SECOND ON TABLE LAW IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS? MOTION CARRIES. 
          ALRIGHT, 
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WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NU WELL, UH, TO PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          AND WE HAVE FIVE PEOPLE SCHEDULED TO SPEAK TODAY ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO. 
          SO WE'LL TAKE THEM UP NOW. 
          DALE HANSON. 
          MA'AM, IT'S FOUR FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO AND ONE FOR ITEM NUMBER THREE. 
          OH, SORRY. 
          PERFECT. 
          SO DALE HANSON, AM I GOING? YES, YOU'RE GOING. 
          WELL. 
          GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY. 
          UM, DISTINGUISHED MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. 
          THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE CHANCE TO, TO SPEAK HERE. 
          MY NAME IS DALE HANSSEN. 
          I'M A MEMBER OF THE INTERNATIONAL BROTHERHOOD OF ELECTRICAL WORKERS LOCAL UNION 60 RIGHT HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          I COME TODAY TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED REST BREAK ORDINANCE. 
          SO I WORK CONSTRUCTION. 
          I'VE DONE IT FOR THE LAST EIGHT YEARS AND IT IS A ROUGH AND READY BUSINESS. 
          UM, HEATSTROKE IS A REAL THREAT ON OUR JOB SITE. 
          I REMEMBER MANY TIMES WHEN I'VE HONESTLY FEARED FOR MY WELLBEING BECAUSE OF THE, UH, CLIMATE ACTION. 
          IF YOU GO ONLINE TO THE OSHA WEBSITE, IT WILL STIPULATE THAT WHEN HEAT STRESS IS HIGH, EMPLOYERS SHOULD REQUIRE WORKERS TO TAKE BREAKS. 
          NOTICE THE WORD SHOULD. 
          IT'S NOT MANDATORY LANGUAGE. 
          THAT'S A GUIDELINE. 
          IT'S NOT ENFORCEABLE. 
          I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT TO A STUDY STUDY ENTITLED, ENSURING THE RIGHT TO TO REST BY DR. 
          JENNIFER SCOTT, BETHANY BOS, AND EMILY TIM OF LOUISIANA STATE UNIVERSITY, WHICH CONCLUDED THAT IN THE ABSENCE OF NATIONAL STANDARDS, CITY LEVEL RBO CAN BE A CRITICAL STEP AND EFFECTIVE PREVENTION OF HEAT RELATED ILLNESSES WHILE AT WORK. 
          NOW, OPPONENTS OF THIS MEASURE MIGHT SAY THAT THIS SHOULD NOT BE THE PURVIEW OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, OF STATE GOVERNMENTS, THAT THIS SHOULD BE DONE BY OSHA. 
          MATTER OF FACT, WE'VE HEARD THIS ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS. 
          THAT BEING SAID, THERE ARE ALSO OF A CERTAIN POLITICAL PARTY THAT WOULD NORMALLY OBJECT TO ANY MEASURE DONE ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL. 
          THEY WOULD SAY THAT IT SHOULD BE DONE BY THE STATES AND BY THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT. 
          SO, WHICH IS IT? I REGRET TO SAY THAT THERE WAS A CHANCE. 
          THERE WAS A TIME IN JULY, 2015, A WORKER NAMED, UH, NDI. 
          HE DIED AT THE AGE OF 25 WHILE DOING SOME FLOORING IN MELISSA, TEXAS. 
          MELISSA'S A SUBURB JUST NORTH OF DALLAS. 
          HE INDICATED HE WAS FEELING UNWELL AT 10 O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, BUT HIS BOSS WAS MORE PREOCCUPIED WITH PRODUCTION THAN WITH SAFETY. 
          HE DISMISSED R'S REQUEST FOR A BREAK WHILE 12:00 PM NDI STOPPED TALKING AND BY 4:47 PM NDI GR WAS PRONOUNCED DEAD AT THE HOSPITAL. 
          HIS BODY TEMPERATURE WAS 109 DEGREES FAHRENHEIT. 
          HE WAS WORKING 16 HOUR DAYS WITHOUT BREAK. 
          THE AUTOPSY REPORT CONCLUDED THAT HIS ORGANS WERE COOKED FROM THE INSIDE. 
          NOW, I'M NOT SAYING THIS TO SAY THAT ALL CONTRACTORS ARE BAD. 
          THEY'RE NOT. 
          I WOULD SAY THE MAJORITY FOR WHOM I'VE WORKED HAVE BEEN VERY ETHICAL AND VERY REASONABLE, AND THEY REALLY DO WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE ALL WORKING SAFE. 
          THAT BEING SAID, THIS DOESN'T APPLY TO ALL CONTRACTORS. 
          THERE IS STILL A TOXIC CULTURE THAT PERMEATES THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY AND THE DEATH OF RANDY GUANINE WAS JUST ONE, AN ILLUSTRATION OF IT. 
          THIS MEASURE WOULD ADD TEETH TO WHAT IS OTHERWISE JUST AN EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN. 
          IT WOULD HOLD JOB SITE TYRANTS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS. 
          THIS R B O WOULD BENEFIT ALL CONSTRUCTION WORKERS, BUT ESPECIALLY THOSE WORKERS WHO ARE IN MORE VULNERABLE SITUATIONS. 
          IT'S JUST THAT THOSE WHO ARE AT THE MERCY OF UNSCRUPULOUS CONTRACTORS OR THOSE WHO ARE AFRAID TO SPEAK UP BECAUSE OF THEIR LIMITED ENGLISH PROFICIENCY OR BECAUSE OF THEIR QUESTIONABLE IMMIGRATION STATUS. 
          NOW, I'M SURE I DON'T HAVE TO TELL YOU ALL THAT LAW SERVE A VERY IMPORTANT FUNCTION IN SOCIETY. 
          THEY PROMOTE A PUBLIC GOOD BY MANDATING CONSEQUENCES FOR THOSE WHO VIOLATE THAT PUBLIC. 
          GOOD. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MARLA MURILLO, FOLLOWED BY JUSTICE LEVIN. 
          GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF THE, UH, COUNT OF THE COMMITTEE. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          MY NAME IS MARELLA MURILLO. 
          I AM HERE REPRESENTING ON BEHALF OF, UM, OUR PRESIDENT OF THE SAN ANTONIO, A F L C I O, CENTRAL LABOR COUNCIL. 
          TERRY CASTILLO. 
          SHE COULD NOT BE HERE TODAY AND ASK ME TO COME IN HER STEAD REPRESENTING APPRO, THE APPROXIMATELY 40 UNIONS THAT, UH, REPRESENT WORKING FAMILIES ACROSS, UH, SAN ANTONIO AND BEAR COUNTY. 
          AND TODAY I'M HERE TO DISCUSS COMMENTS, UH, WITH REGARD TO THE, UH, PROPOSED HEAT, UH, HEAT ORDINANCE. 
          UM, AS IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT EACH AND EVERY CITY COUNCIL MEMBER WAS, UH, WAS A, A, UH, LETTER FROM OUR OFFICE WAS, UH, HAND DELIVERED YESTERDAY. 
          IF YOU DID NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO READ 
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THAT, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND READ AN EXCERPT FROM IT. 
          AND IT DEALS SPECIFICALLY, UH, WITH, UH, THE HEAT, HEAT ISSUE. 
          AND IT READS HERE, SADLY, TEXAS IS THE DEADLIEST STATE FOR CONSTRUCTION WORKERS WHERE MORE WORKERS DIE FROM HIGH HEAT TEMPERATURES. 
          AS YOU KNOW, THERE IS NO STATE OR FEDERAL LAW THAT PROVIDES CONSTRUCTION WORKERS THE RIGHT TO TAKE A BREAK WHEN THEY NEED TO DRINK WATER OR REST FOR A MOMENT IN THE SHADE, WE APPLAUD THE STEPS THE CITY COUNCIL HAS TAKEN TO ADDRESS THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE. 
          HOWEVER, IT IS DISTRESSING TO TAKE THE POSITION THAT AN ORDINANCE IS NOT NECESSARY. 
          THIS ONLY COMMUNICATES THAT THE LIVES OF WORKERS HAVE LITTLE TO NO VALUE WHEN COMPARED TO POTENTIAL PROFITS FOR AN ADDITIONAL 10 MINUTES OF PRODUCTION. 
          WE UNDERSTAND CONCERNS WITH THE PASSAGE OF HOUSE BILL 2127. 
          HOWEVER, THE BILL DOES NOT IMPACT THE TERMS OF EMPLOYMENT IN A CONTRACTOR AGREEMENT EXECUTED WITH A LOCAL GOVERNMENT ENTITY, THE SAN ANTONIO, A F L C I O LABOR MOVEMENT BELIEVES THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO MUST CONTINUE TO DEMONSTRATE THEIR COMMITMENT TO PROTECTING WORKERS AND BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF PUBLIC FUNDS BY PASSING AND ENFORCING REST BREAKS ON ALL CITY PROJECTS, PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS, LEASE AGREEMENTS, AND OTHER CITY ENDEAVORS. 
          NOW TO EXPAND ON WHAT WAS STATED IN HERE AS FAR AS, UH, BEING GOOD STEWARDS AND, AND, AND ALSO WITH CONTRACTS OR AGREEMENTS, I'D LIKE TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT WITHIN THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL CODES, CHAPTER 2, 2, 6 9 OF THE COMPETITIVE BID PROCESS ALLOWS FOR CERTAIN, ALLOWS FOR CERTAIN CRITERIA THAT THE CITY, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO CAN, UH, THAT CAN APPLY TO ALL PROCUREMENT METHODS. 
          UH, IN CONSTRUCTION, THE CITY MAY CONSIDER MORE FACTORS THAN JUST PRICE. 
          IN AWARDING A CONTRACT BASED ON COMPETITIVE BIDS, THERE ARE EIGHT CRITERIA THE CITY MAY CONSIDER. 
          OF COURSE, ALWAYS ONE IS PRICE, THE ONE IS OFFERS EXPERIENCE AND REPUTATION. 
          THE QUALITY OF AN OFFERS GOODS AND SERVICES, THE IMPACT OR ON THE ABILITY OF THE CITY TO COMPLY WITH RULES RELATING TO HISTORICALLY UTIL. 
          AND LASTLY, THE OFFERS SAFETY RECORD. 
          SO I NEED TO POINT THAT OUT TO YOU AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU, UH, URGE YOU TO, UH, CONSIDER IMPLEMENTING THAT, UH, CRITERIA WHEN YOU HAVE A NEW PROCUREMENTS COMING OUT FOR CONSTRUCTION. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MARIELLA JUSTICE 11, FOLLOWED BY DAVID GARZA. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, LIKE THE PEOPLE WHO SPOKE BEFORE ME, I'M REPRESENTING A UNION TODAY. 
          UH, THE AF T 67 STANDS WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE TO WORK OUTSIDE, EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T. 
          UM, I'LL TRY NOT TO, UH, BELABOR THE POINT THOUGH. 
          UM, IN THE FACE OF A SORT OF GENERIC AND BROAD PREEMPTION FROM THE STATE, UH, I WANT TO SPEAK ACTUALLY IN OPPOSITION TO WHAT ONE OF MY UNION BROTHERS HAS SAID. 
          THE LAW IS NOT REAL. 
          IT'S JUST A BUNCH OF WORDS UNTIL SOMEBODY DOES SOMETHING ABOUT IT. 
          IT'S JUST A BUNCH OF WORDS. 
          AND I THINK THAT YOU SHOULD, UH, MAKE THEM DO MORE THAN SAY IT. 
          AN EDUCATION CAMPAIGN ABOUT HEAT ILLNESS REALLY DOES A LITTLE MORE THAN ADD INSULT TO INJURY. 
          LIKE, GO OUTSIDE, IT'S HOT. 
          YOU DON'T NEED SOMEBODY TO TELL YOU THAT. 
          LIKE ON A CELLULAR LEVEL, YOU GO OUTSIDE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY AND YOUR BODY IS LIKE, ABSOLUTELY NOT. 
          HAVE YOU CONSIDERED MOVING? IT'S NICE. 
          LIKE IN MINNESOTA, I HEAR THE WINNERS AREN'T SO BAD. 
          UM, YOU SHOULD PASS A VERSION OF THIS ORDINANCE THAT REQUIRES PEOPLE TO HAVE BREAKS. 
          UM, YOU SHOULD MAKE THE STATE FIGHT FOR IT. 
          UH, THE LAW IS NOT REAL. 
          IF THE LAW SAYS THESE PEOPLE TO US ARE DISPOSABLE, THEIR LIVES DO NOT MATTER. 
          FOR ALL WE CARE, THEY CAN GO DIE. 
          YOU THE LAW IS ESPECIALLY NOT REAL IN THAT CASE, AND YOU SHOULD OPPOSE IT. 
          IT'S LIKE TRANSPARENTLY OBVIOUS. 
          AND I HOPE THAT YOU WILL, BECAUSE AS WE SAY IN THE LABOR MOVEMENT, AN INJURY TO ONE IS AN INJURY TO ALL. 
          WE MAKE THE WORLD TOGETHER. 
          AND WHEN YOU DISREGARD THE VALUE OF HUMAN LIFE, YOU'RE DISREGARDING THE VALUE OF YOUR OWN LIFE. 
          AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE SUITS COME OFF AND THE SUN SHINES ON US ALL THE SAME. 
          UM, THE LIFE YOU SAVE MAY WELL BE YOUR OWN. 
          PLEASE MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          JUSTICE. 
          DAVID GARZA, FOLLOWED BY ILARIO GARCIA. 
          I, I'D LIKE TO ECHO THE SENTIMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE ALREADY. 
          UM, LAST YEAR WE HAD NEARLY 60, UH, 100 DEGREE, UH, DAYS. 
          AND WE KNOW OUR TEMPERATURE IS, UH, CONTINUING TO INCREASE. 
          UH, WE ARE ALSO A HUMID CLIMATE, UH, WHEN HUMIDITY AND THE TEMPERATURE IT COMBINES AND IT, UH, GROWS GREATER THAN, UH, 97 DEGREES, UH, FAHRENHEIT. 
          THERE, UM, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR YOU TO SHED, UH, YOUR, UH, YOUR BODY HEAT. 
          AND THAT MAKES IT VERY DANGEROUS AND DEADLY FOR, FOR PEOPLE TO THINK THAT OUR STATE WOULDN'T PROTECT OUR CITIZENS BY 
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MAKING IT A, UH, A RIGHT TO BE ABLE TO JUST HAVE SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS WATER IS UNCONSCIONABLE. 
          SO I THINK WE AS A CITY SHOULD TAKE UP THAT FIGHT AND PROTECT OUR CITIZENS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          DAVID EIO GARCIA EIO. 
          OH, THERE YOU'RE, THANK YOU. 
          HI, MY NAME'S EIO LARRY GARCIA. 
          I'M HERE TODAY TO SPEAK ABOUT THE AUTOMOBILE RECYCLING AND METAL RECYCLING ENTITIES. 
          UM, I BELIEVE THAT WE NEED, UM, EQUITABLE AND PROPER, UH, SORRY, EQUITABLE AND PROPER, UH, ENFORCEMENT OF THE RULES. 
          THERE'S ALSO, UM, WITH THAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT TO THE NEIGHBORS AND THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES. 
          UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU, EIO. 
          WE WILL NOW 
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TAKE UP A PRESENTATION ON ITEM NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS A BRIEFING AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE C C R RELATED TO THE HEALTH HEAT ILLNESS PREVENTION FOR CONSTRUCTION WORKERS. 
          THANK YOU, AMI. 
          MADAM CHAIR AND COUNCIL. 
          UH, MY NAME IS AMIN THOMAS. 
          I'M WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. 
          I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE HEAT ILLNESS, UH, BRIEFING. 
          SO, AS YOU KNOW, LAST MONTH, UH, DIRECTOR SHANNON CAME AND PRESENTED TO YOU AND, UH, TALKED ABOUT BASICALLY, UH, THE C C R THAT WAS CREATED ABOUT A YEAR AGO WITH, UH, COUNCILWOMAN, UM, SANDOVAL, DISTRICT SEVEN, FORMAL COUNCILWOMAN, AND THEN DR. 
          ROCHA GARCIA, DISTRICT FOUR. 
          AND WE PRESENTED, UH, OUR FINDINGS AFTER WE CREATED THE TASK FORCE. 
          UM, WE MET WITH THEM FIVE TIMES. 
          WE TALKED ABOUT IT, AND WE CAME BACK WITH, UH, SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU. 
          THE OUTCOME WAS, UH, FROM YOU. 
          YOU GAVE US INSTRUCTIONS TO COME BACK WITH ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. 
          NUMBER ONE, TO PROVIDE YOU WITH COPIES OF, UH, AUSTIN AND DALLAS ORDINANCE, WHICH WE DID. 
          WE EMAILED THAT TO YOU AND BASICALLY TO BRING ANY OTHER OPTIONS FOR A POTENTIAL ORDINANCE. 
          AND THE LAST THING THAT I DON'T HAVE ON THE SLIDE IS BASICALLY YOU INSTRUCTED US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH EDUCATION CAMPAIGN IMMEDIATELY, UH, UNTIL WE COME BACK AGAIN AND PRESENT TO YOU, UH, LIKE TODAY, BASICALLY. 
          SO TALKING ABOUT THE EDUCATION CAMPAIGN, UH, WE DO HAVE DECALS THAT, UH, ACTUALLY THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF BEING PRINTED RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, THE EDUCATION POSTCARDS, WE PRINTED ABOUT 2000 SO FAR, AND WE GAVE THEM TO OUR, UH, INSPECTORS. 
          SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY PROVIDING THOSE TO THE JOB SITES. 
          AND I HAVE COPIES HERE JUST IN CASE YOU WANNA SEE THEM. 
          SO BASICALLY EVERY INSPECTOR WHEN WE GO AND, UH, WE, WE PERFORM AN INSPECTION, THE INSPECTOR IS PROVIDING ONE OF THOSE POSTCARDS TO THE CONTRACTOR AND TALKING, TALKING TO THEM ABOUT IT AND EDUCATING THEM ON REST BREAKS AND THE NEED FOR IT. 
          UH, DURING THIS, THIS HOT MONTH BASICALLY, OR, OR THIS SUMMER, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE OCEAN MOBILE APP. 
          IT'S REALLY GOOD APP. 
          IT GIVES EVERY PERSON WHO HAS IT BASICALLY, UM, A REAL TIME INFORMATION ABOUT THE INDEX, THE HEAT INDEX. 
          SO IF I HAVE IT, IF I'M IN THE FIELD, I CAN, YOU KNOW, AT THAT MOMENT, WHAT IS THE HEAT INDEX. 
          SO WILL HELP ME TO DECIDE IF I NEED TO TAKE A BREAK OR NOT. 
          IF I NEED WATER BREAK, IF I NEED JUST A BREAK, SIT IN THE SHADE, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          AND IT EXPLAINS THE SYMPTOMS AND THE SIGNS OF ANY HEAT STRESS. 
          SO IN ADDITION TO, UH, WHAT, WHAT WE, I JUST SHOWED YOU THE POSTCARD AND THE DECALS. 
          UH, BASICALLY AGAIN, WE ARE WORKING, PARTNERING WITH THE METRO HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND COMMUNICATION AND, UH, ENGAGEMENT DEPARTMENTS. 
          SO WE DID PUSH OUT, UH, A NEWS RELEASE RECENTLY. 
          WE ARE PUSHING ALL THE INFORMATION ON BEAT THE HEAT AND ANY INFORMATION ABOUT HEAT ILLNESS THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA, ALL KIND OF PLATFORMS NEXT DOOR, FACEBOOK, TWITTER, LINKEDIN, UH, AS I MENTIONED, THE POSTCARDS, WE ARE GIVING THEM TO OUR INSPECTORS. 
          THEY'RE, UH, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING THOSE TO THE CONTRACTORS AND EXPLAINING THE PROCESS AND EXPLAINING THE EDUCATION PART COMPONENT. 
          FOR REST BREAKS, WE'RE GONNA PRINT ACTUALLY MORE BECAUSE WE PUSHED THOSE 2000 OUT AND WE STARTED TO PRINT ADDITIONAL, UH, POSTCARDS AS WELL. 
          THIS ONE HERE, UH, AS YOU KNOW, JUST RECENTLY THE COUNCIL APPROVED THE NEW SIGN CODE. 
          ONE OF THE COMPONENTS OF THE SIGN CODE WAS IF THEY DO ANY NEW DIGITAL CONVERSION BILLBOARDS, THEY WILL GIVE US 40 HOURS OF ADVERTISEMENT TIME THAT WE CAN PUT ANYTHING THAT THE CITY WANTS TO PUT. 
          THAT WILL NOT GO IN EFFECT TILL JANUARY 1ST, 2024. 
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BUT THE REASON WHY I'M MENTIONING THIS IS WE ARE WORKING WITH ONE OF THE BIGGEST, UH, SIGN COMPANIES IN TOWN. 
          WE GAVE THEM THE, THE POSTCARD GRAPHICS AND THE DECAL GRAPHICS. 
          THEY'RE WORKING ON THAT RIGHT NOW. 
          AND I GOT AN EMAIL YESTERDAY THAT THE FORMATTING IS DONE, POTENTIALLY IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS, IT'S GONNA BE ON THOSE BOARDS FREE OF CHARGE FOR THE CITY. 
          SO THEY'RE BEING PROACTIVE, THEY'RE GIVING US TIME NOW, EVEN BEFORE THAT, THAT NEW LAW COMES IN PLACE. 
          SO AGAIN, WE ARE REALLY PUSHING HARD ON THE EDUCATION COMPONENT. 
          SO, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, YOU ASKED US TO BRING BACK AGAIN, AUSTIN, DALLAS, AND POTENTIALLY OTHER CITIES. 
          SO THIS IS THE CITY OF AUSTIN. 
          IT WAS ESTABLISHED THAT REST BREAK WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2010. 
          THEY DO ASK FOR 10 MINUTE BREAK EVERY FOUR HOURS. 
          THEY REQUIRE A SIGN IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH TO BE POSTED AT THE JOB SITE. 
          AND THIS APPLIES TO NEW RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL PROJECTS, BUT IT DOES NOT APPLY TO EXISTING RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS. 
          NOW, THE ONE THING I WANNA POINT OUT HERE IS AUSTIN HAD THE NEWS RELEASED JUST, UH, I THINK A WEEK AGO OR 10 DAYS AGO. 
          AND THEY'RE SAYING, EFFECTIVE SEPTEMBER ONE, THIS ORDINANCE WILL BE VOID. 
          UM, THEY, THEY PUT THAT OUT, UH, AND I THINK IT, I BELIEVE, I DON'T WANNA SAY A HUNDRED PERCENT, I BELIEVE IT'S DUE TO HOUSE BILL 2127, BUT THAT WAS JUST A NEWS RELEASE THAT I SAW. 
          SO WITH DALLAS, DALLAS WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2015, AND IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO AUSTIN. 
          SO 10 MINUTE BREAK EVERY FOUR HOURS, THEY REQUIRE SCIENCE, SPANISH AND ENG ENGLISH. 
          IT DOES APPLY TO NEW RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL AND AS WELL AS EXISTING RESIDENTIAL. 
          SO THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. 
          UH, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO AS WELL IS, I FORGOT TO MENTION, AUSTIN, UH, USES CODE ENFORCEMENT TO ENFORCE THAT ORDINANCE. 
          DALLAS USES THE INSPECTION TEAM. 
          SO WITH THAT SAID, WE DID, UH, WIDE NET RESEARCH TO SEE WHO ELSE HAVE REST BREAKS OR HEAT ILLNESS. 
          AND OBVIOUSLY I'M, I'M SURE WE DIDN'T CAPTURE EVERYTHING, BUT WE REALLY TRIED AND WE FOUND PHOENIX AND LA THAT THEY DO HAVE SOME ORDINANCES OUT THERE. 
          UH, THEY'RE REALLY BASED ON TEMPERATURE. 
          I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S LENGTHY HERE. 
          I CAN GO THROUGH IT, BUT THE CONCEPT IS IF THE TEMPERATURE REACHES CERTAIN LEVEL, THEN THAT ORDINANCE KICKS IN. 
          IF IT'S LOWER, IT DOESN'T KICK IN, WHICH MAKES SENSE. 
          THEY DO REQUIRE, THEY CALL IT, UH, MANDATORY BUDDY SYSTEM. 
          SO BASICALLY EVERY WORKER NEEDS TO HAVE ANOTHER WORKER WITH THEM, OR AT LEAST THEY NEED TO HAVE A CELL PHONE AND A RADIO COMMUNICATION ALL THE TIME TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE SAFE. 
          IF THEY HAVE ANY ISSUES, THEY CAN CALL THEM IN OR, OR KEY THEM IN ON THE RADIO AND SAY, HEY, I NEED ASSISTANCE. 
          THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO AND AUSTIN AND DALLAS IS, AGAIN, THE ENFORCEMENT IS REALLY BY THE SUPERVISOR OF THAT EMPLOYEE, OF THAT CONSTRUCTION WORKER. 
          SO THE CITY IS NOT INVOLVED WITH THE ENFORCEMENT OF THOSE TWO ORDINANCES. 
          THE SUPERVISORS ARE FROM THAT SPECIFIC COMPANY THAT EMPLOYS THE, THAT CONSTRUCTION WORKERS. 
          AND AGAIN, THEY DO PROVIDE, UM, SOME, AGAIN, WATER BREAKS. 
          THEY PROVIDE SOME WATER, CERTAIN AMOUNTS OF WATER FOR EVERY PERSON, DEPENDING ON THE HEAT, DEPENDS, DEPENDING ON THE TEMPERATURE, DEPENDING ON THE TIME OF WORK AND ALL THAT. 
          THEY DO PROVIDE SOME SHADES AS WELL. 
          UM, THEY DO REQUIRE EVERY 20 EMPLOYEES TO HAVE ONE SUPERVISOR TO MONITOR THEIR, UH, ANY SIGNS OF HEAT ILLNESS, IF YOU WILL. 
          UM, AGAIN, THAT'S BASICALLY, UH, BOTH OF THOSE, UH, ORDINANCES. 
          LAST MONTH WE DID SHOW THE SAME EXACT EXACT SIGN, UH, SLIDE, EXCEPT THE LAST BOX STATED THAT IT'S PENDING SIGNATURE. 
          SO THE ONLY CHANGE I HAVE HERE IS OBVIOUSLY THE GOVERNOR SIGNED IT ON JUNE 14TH. 
          SO THAT'S WHY THIS SLIDE IS THERE, JUST TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT. 
          BASICALLY, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AGAIN. 
          UM, WE TOOK YOUR ADVICE TO DO, UH, EDUCATION CAMPAIGN, AND WE ARE RUNNING WITH IT. 
          WE ARE PUSHING AS HARD AS WE CAN. 
          UH, THE ONLY ONE THING I WANNA MENTION, UM, THE ASSOCIATED GENERAL CONTRACTOR, UH, ORGANIZATION, THEY JUST DID, UH, A LENGTHY TRAINING. 
          YES. 
          AND, UM, I JUST HAVE COPIES OF WHAT THEY DID. 
          THEY HAVE LIKE THREE AND A HALF HOURS TRAINING TO ALL THEIR MEMBERS. 
          THEY DID THAT YESTERDAY. 
          SO AGAIN, THE EDUCATION CAMPAIGN IS THE BIGGEST ITEM WE ARE WORKING ON. 
          AND I JUST WANNA REMIND YOU WITH AUSTIN AND DALLAS, UM, LAST MONTH WE PROVIDED YOU WITH THE NUMBERS OF POTENTIAL ENFORCEMENT, CITATIONS, ANY OF THAT, AND WE FOUND NONE. 
          SO AUSTIN AND DALLAS, THEY DO HAVE ORDINANCES, BUT WHAT THE INSPECTOR OR THE CODE OFFICER IS DOING, WHEN THEY SHOW UP TO THE SITE, IF THERE IS NO SIGN, THEY TELL THEM, PUT THE SIGN ON. 
          IT'S EDUCATION BASICALLY. 
          SO, ALTHOUGH THEY HAVE AN ORDINANCE, THEY NEVER ISSUED ANY CITATIONS. 
          THEN SINCE 2010 
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FOR AUSTIN OR SINCE 2015 FROM DALLAS, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. 
          I'M OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU, AMIN, FOR THE PRESENTATION. 
          AND, UM, I, I KNOW THAT WE'LL START WITH, WITH SOME QUESTIONS AND JUST FEEDBACK FROM MY COLLEAGUES, AND I'M SURE THAT WE'LL GET INTO, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. 
          WE, I KNOW WE HAVE THE, UH, GENERAL CONTRACTORS THAT ARE DOING THIS. 
          AND SO, AND THANK YOU, UH, FOR BEING HERE. 
          LAUREN, DO WE KNOW IF THE SUBCONTRACTORS ASSOCIATION DOES SOMETHING SIMILAR OR, UH, OR MAYBE IT'S A QUESTION FOR YOU, LAUREN. 
          DO YOU KNOW IF THEY DO SOMETHING SIMILAR BY ANY CHANCE? I KNOW YOU'RE A GENERAL. 
          I DON'T, YEAH, SO GOOD MORNING. 
          UM, I, I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY SPECIFICALLY DO, BUT OUR, UM, WE HAVE BOTH GENERAL CONTRACTOR MEMBER MEMBERS AND SUBCONTRACTOR MEMBERS, AND THIS IS OPEN TO EVERYBODY. 
          GOT IT. 
          BECAUSE YESTERDAY I HEARD IN A MEETING SOMEBODY REFERENCED A, A SUBCONTRACTOR, UH, ASSOCIATION SPECIFICALLY THAT I WASN'T EVEN AWARE ABOUT. 
          AND SO, UM, I I DIDN'T KNOW. 
          I MEAN, I, I APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS AND YOU'VE INVITED ME TWICE AND MY APOLOGIES BOTH TIMES I COULDN'T COME OUT. 
          UM, BUT I KNOW YOU HAVE SOME MORE, AND YOU, I THINK YOU WERE GONNA EXTEND THE INVITATION TO YES. 
          OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS. 
          CAN YOU TELL US WHEN THAT NEXT ONE IS? I'LL LET YOU KNOW. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO THIS IS ACTUALLY A GRANT WE RECEIVED THROUGH OSHA TO HAVE THESE HEAT ILLNESS CLASSES TAUGHT. 
          SO THEY'RE AT NO COST, UM, TO OUR MEMBERS, EVEN NON-MEMBERS. 
          UM, THIS IS THE THIRD OR FOURTH CLASS THAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE THIS YEAR, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THEM THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER. 
          SO STAY TUNED. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          UM, THE, UH, AND, AND THE FOCUS OF THE CAMPAIGN, SO I APPRECIATE YOU ALL. 
          THE, THE FOCUS OF NOT CAMPAIGN WAS JUST TO SAY IT'S HOT. 
          YOU CAN STEP OUTSIDE AND KNOW WHEN IT'S HOT. 
          YOU CAN BE IN YOUR ROOM AND KNOW THAT IT'S HOT. 
          UM, IT WAS ABOUT DRINKING WATER, WHICH PEOPLE FORGET BECAUSE THEY'RE SO BUSY. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, A LOT OF OUR RESIDENTS, UM, THEY DON'T WANT TO SAY SOMETHING BECAUSE THEY'RE AFRAID OF LOSING THEIR JOB. 
          THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THE JOB DONE FASTER. 
          UM, BECAUSE HONESTLY, THEY WANNA GET OUTTA THE HEAT. 
          UM, AND FOR A LOT OF THEM, THEY, UM, THEY'RE AFRAID THAT THEY MIGHT BE DEDUCTED IN PAY OR PASSED UP FOR A PROMOTION. 
          AND UNFORTUNATELY, FOR SOME PEOPLE, TIME IS, IS MONEY BECAUSE THEY NEED IT FOR THEIR FAMILIES, RIGHT? AND SO THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL FOCUSED IMMEDIATELY ON THE EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN, MAKING SURE THAT THEY KNOW THEIR RIGHTS, THEY KNOW THAT THEY SHOULD BE HAVING WATER BREAKS AND TAKING REST BREAKS AND FINDING COOL SHADES. 
          SO I APPRECIATE THIS. 
          I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT IT, IT SOUNDS LIKE CLEAR CHANNEL DIGITAL IS THE ONE THAT'S DOING THE, THE CAMPAIGN, THE AWARENESS CAMPAIGN FOR US. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          UM, I, UH, I'M, I'M FAMILIAR WITH, UM, UH, OSHA REQUIREMENTS. 
          MY DAD WAS A CONSTRUCTION WORKER, AND SO MY DAD WORKED FOR REALLY GOOD COMPANY FOR 49 YEARS. 
          UM, AND HE ALWAYS HAD REST BREAKS AND SHADE AND, UM, WATER PROVIDED TO HIM. 
          UM, SO THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT THERE'S PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING GOOD JOB, UH, DOING THAT. 
          THERE'S ALSO TECHNOLOGY THAT I THINK THAT WE SHOULD MAYBE HELP PUSH. 
          I MEAN, WITH OUR CAMPAIGN, AND MAYBE YOU DO ON THE MORE TIPS, UM, THAT OSHA APP IS REALLY GOOD. 
          UM, I'VE DOWNLOADED IT, I'VE BEEN USING IT. 
          AND SO IT TALKS ABOUT THE, IT IT GIVES YOU THE TEMPERATURE. 
          YOU COULD PLAN AHEAD FOR UP TO 24 HOURS SO THAT YOU COULD PLAN WHEN YOU COULD DO YOUR WORK. 
          UM, IT GIVES YOU A NUMBER TO CALL IMMEDIATELY IF THERE'S SOME SORT OF A VIOLATION, ET CETERA. 
          SO I DO THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE PUSHING THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE. 
          UM, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE ON HERE IS WATCH OUT FOR ONE ANOTHER, RIGHT? SO IF YOU SEE SOMEONE THAT'S DE DISPLAYING THESE SIGNS, I READ AN ARTICLE RECENTLY THAT OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS ANSWERED TO 53% MORE CALLS, UM, ON HEAT RELATED ILLNESSES. 
          SO WE KNOW THAT IT WE'RE HAVING EXTREME, UM, TEMPERATURE RELATED CALLS. 
          AND SO, SO I DEFINITELY THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO CONTINUE WITH THE CAMPAIGN AMONGST SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT HERE SHORTLY. 
          UM, I, I WANTED TO SHARE, I HAVE, MY DAD'S 84 YEARS OLD, AND SO HE DECIDED TO CUT HIS GRASS AT FOUR O'CLOCK THE OTHER DAY, KNOWING VERY WELL THAT MY KID COULD DO IT FOR HIM. 
          HE WANTED TO DO IT ON HIS OWN. 
          SO I'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS, THIS CULTURE THAT, THAT COMES WITH. 
          I, I'M THE MAN OF THE HOUSE, I WANT TO DO THIS. 
          AND, AND SO WE, SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER THAT, THAT THERE'S THAT, BUT REMINDING THEM TO TAKE WATER BREAKS. 
          I BOUGHT MY DAD AN OUTSIDE, UM, THERMOSTAT, RIGHT? AND SO I SAID, LOOK, IF IT'S OVER 90, YOU'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING OUTDOORS, RIGHT? AND SO THAT WAS THE BEST WAY THAT I COULD SHOW HIM VISUALLY TO JUST STAY INDOORS, RIGHT? LIKE, THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN DO THIS. 
          UM, BUT, BUT I DO THINK THAT IT'S JUST THOSE REMINDERS. 
          I THINK PEOPLE JUST FORGET TO STOP. 
          THEY GET SO BUSY. 
          UM, SO, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          UM, RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN A LABOR SHORTAGE. 
          WE DON'T HAVE SKILLED LABOR TO DO CERTAIN JOBS. 
          I KNOW IN THE CONSTRUCTION TRADES, 
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I'VE HEARD THIS FROM, UM, DIFFERENT PEOPLE FROM THE MANUFACTURER'S ASSOCIATION TO, TO YOU NAME IT, RIGHT? AND SO, UM, I DO THINK THAT THE CONTRACTORS THAT ARE DOING A GOOD JOB OF TAKING CARE OF THEIR EMPLOYEES ARE GETTING THE EMPLOYEES TO WORK FOR THEM. 
          THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE GIVING THESE REST BREAKS, ET CETERA. 
          UM, HOWEVER, I THINK THAT WE WERE FOCUSED ON THOSE BAD ACTORS, RIGHT? THE ONES THAT DON'T DO IT, AND SOME OF THE ONES THAT DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW. 
          UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT COULD BE, UM, PERCEPTION BASED, ET CETERA. 
          I KNOW, I KNOW THAT WITH THE DEATH STAR BILL, IT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT FOR US TO DO IT. 
          BUT I DO WANNA SAY THAT I, UM, GOT A LETTER FROM MATT GONZALEZ. 
          IT'S THE SAME LETTER THAT, THAT YOU HAD TODAY, MARELLA, THAT YOU READ ON SUNDAY. 
          UM, AND I CALLED HIM BACK WITHIN THE HOUR OF HIM SENDING OUT THAT EMAIL. 
          UM, AND I THANKED HIM BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT'S A GREAT IDEA FOR US, OKAY, IF WE CAN'T DO WHAT HB 21, 27, UM, MIGHT KEEP US FROM DOING, WHAT CAN WE DO? AND WHAT, WHAT I SAW IN THAT LETTER WAS THE IDEA OF, UM, APPLYING IT TO CITY CONTRACTS. 
          SO WHAT CAN WE DO? LIKE, SO IF SOMEBODY'S DOING WORK WITH THE CITY, THEN WOULD SOMETHING LIKE THAT BE ABLE TO, TO BE TAKEN UPON, RIGHT? SO, UM, WE, WE ARE, WE'RE NOT ASKING EVERYBODY ELSE, IT'S JUST PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DO BUSINESS WITH THE CITY. 
          SO I FORWARDED IT TO ERIC WALSH, UM, AND THEN SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES WERE, WERE ON THE SAME PAGE. 
          SO IT WAS, IT WAS REALLY GOOD WHEN, WHEN I, WHEN, WHEN WE HAVE MULTIPLE PEOPLE ON THE SAME PAGE. 
          AND SO TODAY, WE'LL, WE'LL HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT IDEA. 
          UM, YOU HAD A COUPLE OF SLIDES ABOUT AUSTIN AND DALLAS. 
          I SAW THAT YOU HAD PHOENIX AND LA UM, I WAS INTERESTED SPECIFICALLY IN THE BUDDY SYSTEM THAT PHOENIX AND LA HAVE. 
          UM, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANT. 
          DO YOU KNOW, DO YOU HAVE A LITTLE MORE DETAILS ON THAT? SURE. 
          UM, SO MY, MY UNDERSTANDING IS WHEN THE TEMPERATURE EXCEEDS THOSE THRESHOLDS THAT THEY SET, SO FOR EXAMPLE, PHOENIX, THEY SAID IF THE TEMPERATURE EXCEEDS THE 90 DEGREES, THEN YOU NEED TO HAVE A BODY SYSTEM. 
          WHAT THAT MEANS IS YOU DON'T SEND ONE CONSTRUCTION WORKER BY THEMSELVES TO DO ANY WORK. 
          THEY NEED TO HAVE ANOTHER PERSON WITH THEM, EITHER WITH THEM PHYSICALLY OR A CELL PHONE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEM CONTINUOUSLY. 
          GOT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO, I, I, SO THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THAT. 
          'CAUSE I, IT TOTALLY MAKES SENSE NOW. 
          UM, AND THEN I WANNA GO AROUND AND, AND HEAR WHAT, UM, MY COLLEAGUES HAVE TO SAY. 
          BUT WE'LL START WITH, UH, COUNCILMAN COURAGE. 
          I HAVE HIM ON THE QUEUE. 
          THANK YOU, CHAIR. 
          UH, WE WENT THROUGH, UH, CHANGING OUR U D C AND OUR BUILDING CODES, AND I WOULD, I WOULD BE CONCERNED THAT IF WE DO ANYTHING WITH AN ORDINANCE NOW, IS THAT KIND OF OUT OF LINE OR OUTSIDE OF THE REALM OF, UH, WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH U D C IN BUILDING CODES? MAYBE OUR CITY ATTORNEY OR YOUR STAFF COULD TELL US? I DON'T, I, I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S, I MEAN, IT'S POSSIBLE, AND IT'S SEPARATE FROM THE CONSTRUCTION. 
          I MEAN, THE BUILDING CODES IS REALLY PHYSICALLY FOR THE STRUCTURE AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE STRUCTURE. 
          THE U D C IS FOR BASICALLY HORIZONTAL WORK, LAND USE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          UH, IT, IT CAN HAPPEN. 
          UH, OKAY. 
          BUT I WILL LET, UH, LEGAL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I, I'D LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING TO THAT. 
          WE'VE DONE THAT IN THE PAST WHERE WE'VE HAD TO TAKE ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS OUT OF LINE, SO IT CAN HAPPEN. 
          OKAY. 
          I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WOULDN'T BE OUTTA LINE, SO TO SPEAK. 
          BUT, UM, I WAS IMPRESSED TO SEE WHAT THE OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE AND ARE DOING. 
          UH, I WAS ALSO, UM, I, I HEARD WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT AUSTIN WITHDRAWING ITS RULES, AND I UNDERSTAND WHY, BECAUSE THEIR THEIRS WERE APPLICABLE TO EVERY BUSINESS IN THE CITY, EVEN IF THEY WEREN'T CONTRACTING WITH THE CITY. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? THAT THAT IS CORRECT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND SO I'M WITH YOU CHAIR THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK WE CAN IMPOSE THIS ON EVERY KIND OF CONSTRUCTION PROJECT THAT GOES ON IN THE CITY, BUT LIKE A LOT OF, UH, REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE, UH, THROUGH PUBLIC WORKS OR EVERY OTHER DEPARTMENT, WE CAN GET, UH, CONTRACTORS TO AGREE TO THE TERMS THAT WE WANNA, UM, YOU KNOW, IN PART IN OUR CONTRACTS. 
          AND I THINK, UH, HEALTH AND SAFETY SHOULD ALWAYS BE A MAJOR CONCERN WHEN WE PUT OUT RFPS. 
          AND, UH, IF PEOPLE DON'T WANNA COMPLY WITH WHATEVER WE COME UP WITH, THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO BUSINESS WITH THE CITY. 
          BUT, UH, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THE WAY THE WEATHER PATTERNS HAVE BEEN, WHAT WE'VE SEEN THE LAST FEW YEARS, WHAT WE'RE SEEING THIS YEAR, WHAT WE'LL PROBABLY SEE IN YEARS TO COME, THE CITY HAS AN OBLIGATION TO PROTECT THIS, TO PROTECT THE SAFETY OF ALL OF ITS CITIZENS. 
          AND ONE WAY WE CAN DO THAT IS TO BUILD SAFETY INTO OUR AGREEMENTS WITH BUSINESSES THAT WANT TO DO BUSINESS WITH US. 
          SO I'M, I'M GOING TO REALLY BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT. 
          UH, I SEE A LITTLE BIT OF THE KIND OF THE RECOMMENDATION OR THE DISCUSSION THAT 
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WE'RE MAKING ON, UH, LIKE 10 MINUTE BREAKS EVERY FOUR HOURS. 
          LET ME ASK, HAS THE STAFF STARTED TO DEVELOP ANY PROPOSED DRAFT ORDINANCE? AND WHAT ARE THEY THINKING ABOUT IN THAT? NO, THE DIRECTION WE GOT FROM YOU LAST, LAST MONTH IS TO BRING BACK SOME INFORMATION ABOUT, AGAIN, OTHER CITIES. 
          UH, AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE BRINGING. 
          SO SOME CITIES ARE GIVING 10 MINUTE BREAKS, UH, PHOENIX AND LA THEY'RE GIVING LONGER, YEAH, 15 MINUTES UP TO, YOU KNOW, 45 MINUTES BREAK DEPENDING ON THE CONDITIONS. 
          UH, THEY PROVIDE SHADE, THEY PROVIDE WATER, VERSUS AUSTIN, DALLAS, THEY DON'T. 
          SO, I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF OPTIONS OUT THERE AND JUST PRESENTING ALL THE OPTIONS FOR YOU TO LET US KNOW WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. 
          YEAH, I LIKED SOME OF THE OPTIONS IN BOTH LA AND, AND IN, UH, PHOENIX. 
          IT MAKES SENSE TO ME TO SET A, A TARGET TEMPERATURE GOAL, UH, INCLUDING, UH, THE HUMIDITY, WHICH IMPACTS THE TEMPERATURE AND THE EFFECT ON HUMAN BODY. 
          I THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE BREAKS, BUT I DON'T KNOW, ONE 10 MINUTE BREAK EVERY FOUR HOURS DOESN'T SEEM TO BE VERY MUCH, I THINK BACK TO YEARS, UH, GONE BY WHEN, IF THERE WAS GOING TO BE AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN EMPLOYEES AND AN EMPLOYER, UH, THE AGREEMENT USUALLY INCLUDED A 15 MINUTE BREAK IN THE MORNING AND A 15 MINUTE BREAK IN THE AFTERNOON AND A 30 MINUTE LUNCH. 
          AND SO THERE WERE BREAK OPPORTUNITIES BUILT IN LONGER THAN 10 MINUTES AND, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF TIMES A DAY. 
          AND I CAN'T SEE WHY THAT WOULDN'T BE PART OF WHAT WE WOULD EXPECT, PARTICULARLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WORKING EITHER INDOORS AND ENCLOSED BUSINESSES AND CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, BUT PARTICULARLY OUTDOORS. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, THE 10 MINUTE, I UNDERSTAND BECAUSE THEY'VE DONE IT IN DALLAS AND, UH, AND HOUSTON, BUT, UH, I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT MAYBE 15 MINUTES, UH, EVERY FOUR HOURS AND IF NOT EVEN SOONER, UH, DEPENDING ON THE TEMPERATURE AND THE CONDITIONS THAT PEOPLE ARE WORKING IN. 
          SO I THINK ALL OF THAT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED. 
          AND AGAIN, UH, I RESPECT A LOT OF THE PEOPLE WE'VE BEEN HEARING FROM IN THE CONSTRUCTION, DEVELOPING DEVELOPMENT INDUSTRY. 
          THEY REALLY ARE EXPERTS AND THEY REALLY DO CARE ABOUT THEIR EMPLOYEES. 
          UM, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER ORGANIZATIONS OR BUSINESSES THAT WE MAY DO BUSINESS WITH THAT AREN'T PART OF A G C OR THAT AREN'T PART OF OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT, UM, I WANNA MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND THEIR COMMITMENT TO THE SAFETY OF THEIR PERSONNEL. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO HAVE A STANDARD THAT EVERYBODY, UH, SHOULD ADHERE TO IF THEY'RE GOING TO DO BUSINESS WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO IN THE AREA OF CONSTRUCTION OR DEVELOPMENT, OR THAT'S GET GETTING PEOPLE WORKING INSIDE IN BAD WEATHER OR OUTSIDE IN BAD WEATHER. 
          SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS ON THIS. 
          THANK YOU CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. 
          COURAGE. 
          COUNCILMAN CASTILLO, THANK YOU, CHAIR. 
          AND, UH, I WANTED TO THANK, UH, AMIN AND HIS TEAM FOR FACILITATING THOSE STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS AND FOR LABOR FOR BEING PRESENT AND, UH, SHARING INPUT ON THOSE MEETINGS AND GIVING, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY, UH, AS WELL AS TO THE A F L C I O, UH, CENTRAL LABOR COUNCIL FOR SENDING US LETTERS AND UNA AS WELL. 
          UH, I, I THINK ONE OF THE PUBLIC COMMERCE JUSTICE SHARED, RIGHT? WE, WE KNOW HOW HOT IT IS AS SOON AS YOU WALK OUTSIDE AND YOU'RE JUST, UH, OVERWHELMED WITH THE HEAT AND HUMIDITY. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, DAVE SHARED A STORY THAT HIT REALLY CLOSE TO HOME, RIGHT? UH, AND THAT MY FATHER IS A LINEMAN AND A PROUD UNION MEMBER OF I B E W. 
          AND HE'S WORKED AS A LINEMAN FOR, FOR YEARS IN, IN THE HEAT, IN THE COLD, IN THE RAIN, UH, AND HEARING THAT THESE DEATHS ARE PREVENTABLE BY ORDINANCE, ALLOWING WORKERS TO HAVE ACCESS TO SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS DRINKING WATER ON THE JOB, RIGHT? I, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SENATE BILL 2127, THAT WHAT WE'RE ADVOCATING FOR HERE AND HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT IS HAVING ACCESS TO WATER. 
          MANY OF US HAVE CUPS IN FRONT OF US, AND WE'RE AN AC RIGHT? AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO TAKE A SIP, UH, WHENEVER WE, WE FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO. 
          UH, AND MANY OF THESE CONSTRUCTION WORKERS, NO DOUBT, RIGHT, THEY GET HOME DRENCHED IN SWEAT. 
          UH, I KNOW WITH MY FATHER, HE HAS HIS OWN PILE OF LAUNDRY BECAUSE IT'S JUST SO DRENCHED LIKE HE'S BEEN, UH, SWIMMING IN HIS CONSTRUCTION GEAR. 
          UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, IT IS PREVENTABLE. 
          IT'S AVOIDABLE BY ENSURING THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH AN ORDINANCE. 
          BAPTIST HEALTH SYSTEM, HOSPITALS EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT HAVE TREATED MORE THAN A HUNDRED PAT PATIENTS ACROSS THE CITY, UM, FOR, UH, HEAT EXHAUST EXHAUSTION. 
          AND WEBB COUNTY, 11 RESIDENTS HAVE DIED FROM HEAT RELATED ILLNESS OVER THE LAST 10 DAYS. 
          THIS HEAT HAS PROMPTED A US, THE US POSTAL SERVICE TO ALLOW EARLIER STARTING TIMES FOR LETTER CARRIERS BECAUSE A LETTER CARRIER IN DALLAS PASSED AWAY TO HEAT EXHAUSTION. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, UM, THERE ARE PROBLEMS THAT IMPACT 
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WORKERS ALL THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, WHETHER YOU'RE A LINEMAN, UH, OR WHATEVER CONSTRUCTION WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING. 
          AND I THINK WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY AS A CITY COUNCIL TO PROTECT THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF OUR CONSTITUENTS. 
          AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IS ENSURING THAT AT A MINIMUM, CONSTRUCTION WORKERS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DRINK WATER 10 MINUTES EVERY FOUR HOURS ON THE JOB, RIGHT? IT'S NOTHING EXTREME THAT WE'RE DEBATING HERE. 
          UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT OSHA DOES REQUIRE AND HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY FOR WORKER SAFETY, BUT THERE'S ALSO COMPELLING DATA THAT SHOWS THAT OSHA IS DOING, YOU KNOW, NOT SO GREAT OF A JOB BECAUSE MANY WORKERS ARE INJURED ON THE JOB, RIGHT? WE JUST CITED A WHOLE BUNCH OF DEATHS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE, UM, DESPITE THERE BEING, UH, OSHA STANDARDS IN PLACE. 
          YOU KNOW, I I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT OUR, OUR WORKERS DON'T HAVE, UH, TIME FOR US TO WAIT AROUND WHILE WE DEBATE THE MERITS OF SENATE BILL 2127, WHICH I BELIEVE IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL, AND WE SHOULD TAKE ACTION TO CHALLENGE THAT. 
          UH, AND I DON'T THINK, UH, OUR WORKERS SHOULD HAVE TO WAIT TILL TILL WE TAKE THAT ON. 
          UM, I, I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD TO AMEND THIS ITEM FOR CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION TO INCLUDE MANDATORY BREAKS OF NO LESS THAN 10 MINUTES PER FOUR HOURS WORKED FOR OUTDOOR WORKERS EMPLOYED BY ENTITIES RECEIVING FUNDS FROM THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          SECOND. 
          SO THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE TABLE. 
          UM, WE'LL CONTINUE THEN WITH DISCUSSION ON, ON THE COUNCILWOMAN, UM, MOTION. 
          SO, UM, COUNCILWOMAN , DO WE START? THANK YOU. 
          I, I, AND I APPRECIATE THE ORDINANCE. 
          I THINK THIS IS A START IN TERMS OF BUSINESSES THAT DO WORK WITH SAN ANTONIO. 
          HOWEVER, I DO WANT US TO LOOK INTO THE OPPORTUNITY THAT I FEEL LIKE WE'RE MISSING HERE BECAUSE YES, OUR CONSTRUCTION WORKERS, OUR OUTDOOR WORKERS, WE NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. 
          BUT WE DO NEED TO LOOK AT OUR SENIORS AND OUR YOUTH IN ORGANIZED SPORTS. 
          WE, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, AND, AND I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO, OR THE TEAM TO KIND OF LOOK IN TERMS OF AN ORDINANCE OF HOW WE CAN, UM, EXPAND THIS TO JUST, I MEAN, I APPRECIATE THIS AND I, AND I, I SEE THE LITTLE CONSTRUCTION HAT, BUT I WANT ONE WITH AN INDIVIDUAL MOWING THE LAWN IN THE HEAT OF THE DAY, OR KIDS IN THEIR SOCCER GEAR OR FOOT PUP WARNER GEAR RUNNING IN ONE OF OUR PARKS. 
          UM, THAT, THAT'S THE ONE THING THAT I THINK WE NEED TO SEE IS THIS IS ABOUT EDUCATION. 
          AND WE NEED TO, TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE TO EDUCATE THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY THAT THE DAYS ARE GETTING HOTTER. 
          AND THERE ARE SOME DAYS THAT YOU JUST CANNOT GO OUT WITH THE OSHA MOBILE APP. 
          PEOPLE IN THE INDUSTRY CAN GO CHECK, BUT MY SENIORS DON'T HAVE A, AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO CHECK AND SAY, HEY, UH, YOU SHOULDN'T BE OUT AT FOUR O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON MOWING YOUR LAWN. 
          BUT IF THE CITY CAME OUT WITH AN ORDINANCE THAT SAYS, HEY, IF YOU'RE OUTSIDE, THIS IS, WE HAVE, WE HAVE THESE BREAKS. 
          AND IF WE START WITH JUST OUR, THE, THE PEOPLE WE CONTRACT WITH, THAT'S FINE. 
          THE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO DO AND HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITIES, AND I DO LOVE WHAT PHOENIX AND LOS ANGELES HAS, 'CAUSE I LIKE THE IDEA OF PUTTING THE OWN, THE, THE RESPONSIBILITY BACK ON THE SUPERVISORS. 
          AND I THINK IF WE HAD SOME OF THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES THAT WE WORK WITH, UM, AND EVEN THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES THAT THEY'RE BUILDING THE HOTELS, THEY WOULD SUBMIT SOMETHING WHERE WE WOULD, WE WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE TAKING CARE OF THEIR EMPLOYEES OUT THERE, OUT THERE. 
          IT, IT'S THE SUBCONTRACTORS THAT I THINK LAUNA MENTIONED EARLIER THAT IS, IS THE PROBLEM. 
          AND, AND WORKERS DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE THE AVENUE, BUT IF WE'RE LIKE, THIS IS WHAT, THIS IS WHAT EMRYS DOING 'CAUSE, AND THIS IS WHAT, WHAT JORDAN FOSTER'S DOING, AND, AND THEY'RE, THEY HAVE THEIR EMPLOYEES, I DON'T SEE A LABOR SHORTAGE FOR THEM AS MUCH AS I DO FOR SOME OF OUR CONSTRUCTION, UM, PROJECTS AND, AND MAYBE SOME OF THE HOMEOWNERS. 
          SO I THINK, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS OPPORTUNITY. 
          I'M NOT GONNA DEBATE 2127, THAT'S ITS OWN THING. 
          BUT I THINK AS TERMS OF, AS WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMUNICATE TO THE COMMUNITY THAT THE DAYS ARE GETTING HOTTER, AND YES, THIS IMPACTS THOSE WORKING OUTDOORS, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WORKING OUTDOORS THAT ARE NOT WITH A CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, THAT ARE DOING YARD WORK FOR MAYBE SOMEONE THAT NEED TO, TO FEEL LIKE, OH, I CAN HAVE THIS 10 MINUTE BREAK, OR THIS IS WHAT THE CITY DOES. 
          SO I, I JUST WANNA SEE IF WE CAN EXPAND IT. 
          UM, BUT I DO THINK FOR CONS FOR THE OUTDOOR, UM, 
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CONSTRUCTION WORKERS, THE, THE ONUS ON THE SUPERVISOR IS A GREAT THING. 
          THE BUDDY SYSTEM IS A GREAT THING, BUT I DON'T WANNA MISS THE OPPORTUNITY TO HELP WITH THE SENIORS AND THE YOUTH IN ORGANIZED SPORTS THAT AREN'T CONNECTED TO A SCHOOL DISTRICT. 
          AND THERE'S A LOT OF YOUTH IN ORGANIZED SPORTS THAT AREN'T CONNECTED TO A YOUTH, UM, UH, SCHOOL DISTRICT. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW IF THIS NEEDS TO ALSO BE LOOKED AT AT CHECK. 
          UM, BUT, UM, I, I'M, I SUPPORT WORKING WITH THE CONTRACTORS WE HAVE, AND I, I SUPPORT KIND OF LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN EXPAND THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND CAN I JUST ASK ONE QUESTION? YOUR IDEA ABOUT HAVING PICTURE OF SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, MOWING THE GRASS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO I WOULD REACH OUT TO METRO HEALTH. 
          THE REASON WHY WE DID THIS SPECIFICALLY TO CONSTRUCTION, IT WAS BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS WE GOT FROM YOU LAST MONTH. 
          UH, METRO HEALTH DOES THIS CAMPAIGN EVERY YEAR. 
          I MEAN, FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW. 
          THEY DO, UH, BEAT THE HEAT CAMPAIGN AND THAT'S REALLY CITYWIDE FOR ALL THE CITIZENS. 
          BUT I THINK PUTTING SOME ADDITIONAL PICTURES WILL DEFINITELY HELP, UH, PUSH THAT MESSAGE. 
          THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN, COUNCILMAN COURAGE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, I, I CAN BE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT THIS, UH, PROPOSAL IS RIGHT NOW. 
          ONE THING I THINK WE NEED TO CONSIDER THOUGH, IS BEFORE WE SET, UH, A A PERIOD OF TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF WE CAN DETERMINE FROM ANY KIND OF EXISTING RESEARCH, WHAT IS THE NECESSARY TIME FOR SOMEBODY TO RECOVER WHO HAS BEEN WORKING OUT IN THE HEAT AT A HUNDRED DEGREES FOR FOUR HOURS? IS 10 MINUTES ENOUGH TIME FOR SOMEBODY TO SIMPLY RECOVER TO SIT DOWN AND DRINK SOME WATER? OR WOULD, WOULD HEALTH EXPERTS SAY NO, THEY NEED MORE TIME TO RECOVER TO A POINT WHERE THEY CAN GO BACK OUT AND CONTINUE TO WORK FOR MAYBE ANOTHER FOUR HOURS? SO I, I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF WE CAN LOOK FOR SOME RESEARCH. 
          UH, 'CAUSE 10 MINUTES DOESN'T SEEM VERY LONG TO ME. 
          UH, AND SO I REC I UNDERSTAND THE RECOMMENDATION, IT'S BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH, BUT LET'S FIND A LITTLE BIT MORE SOLID EVIDENCE TO VERIFY THAT THAT'S THE RIGHT TARGET TO SHOOT AT. 
          SO THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING, AND I'D LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN HAVE THE CITY STAFF DO THAT FOR US. 
          THE OTHER THING, UM, THAT COUNCILMAN VERAN MENTIONED ABOUT, UH, YOUNG PEOPLE INVOLVED IN SPORTS OR OTHER ACTIVITIES, UH, I THINK THIS IS AN AREA WHERE THE CITY THAT HAS LICENSING AGREEMENTS WITH DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS COULD POSSIBLY MAKE PART OF THAT LICENSING AGREEMENT THAT THEY HAVE PROTECTIONS BUILT IN FOR THOSE STUDENTS WHEN IT COMES TO WEATHER CONDITIONS. 
          YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, I, I KNOW A LOT OF TIMES OVER THE YEARS, IF THERE'S LIGHTNING IN THE AREA, THEY STOP A FOOTBALL GAME OR A BASEBALL GAME. 
          BUT WHAT ABOUT IF THE TEMPERATURE'S CLIMBING UP TO A HUNDRED DEGREES? DO THEY HAVE A POLICY THAT SAYS WE'RE GONNA STOP PLAY BECAUSE IT'S TOO HOT? MAYBE THEY DO. 
          BUT IF THEY'RE DOING BUSINESS WITH THE CITY, IF THEY'RE LICENSING SOME OF OUR PARKS OR OTHER FACILITIES OR THE CITY CONTRIBUTES MONEY TO THEIR OPERATION, THEN MAYBE ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT PHYLLIS WAS SAYING, WE SHOULD KNOW THAT THEY HAVE THE SAME KIND OF SAFETY CONSIDERATIONS DUE TO WEATHER AND CLIMATE THAT WE'RE ASKING BUSINESSES TO LOOK AT TOO. 
          SO I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT MAYBE EXPLORED A LITTLE BIT MORE. 
          AND, AND YOU'RE RIGHT, UH, COUNCILWOMAN, MAYBE IT SHOULD GO THROUGH CHECK, BUT, UH, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE CAN START THE CONVERSATION ON THAT HERE. 
          SO, UH, I'D SUPPORT THOSE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU COUNCILMAN, COUNCILMAN CASTILLO. 
          UM, THANK YOU CHAIR. 
          I THINK IT'S WORTH NOTING, RIGHT, THAT THERE ARE INDUSTRY FOLKS THAT ARE ALREADY PRACTICING AUSTIN'S ORDINANCE HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          I BELIEVE IT WAS IN THE SAN ANTONIO REPORT THAT G***O WAS QUOTED, QUOTED STATING THAT THAT'S THE STANDARD THAT THEY PRACTICE, RIGHT? THEY CAN'T ENFORCE IT, BUT THEY ENCOURAGE THEIR WORKERS, UH, TO TAKE A WATER BREAK. 
          SO, UH, I WANTED TO BE SURE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT INDUSTRY FOLKS, UM, ARE SOME INDUSTRY FOLKS ARE DOING THIS, AND THEN SAWS AS WELL, UH, REQUIRES MANDATORY WATER BREAKS WITH THEIR EMPLOYEES. 
          SO HIGHLIGHTING THAT THE WORK IS BEING DONE, UM, BUT AS MENTIONED BY SOME OF THE FOLKS GIVING PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WE WANNA ENSURE THAT WORKERS, UH, KNOW THAT THEY HAVE THE RIGHT AND ABILITY TO, TO PAUSE AND TAKE A DRINK OF WATER TO ENSURE THAT, UM, THEY GET TO GO HOME TO THEIR FAMILIES. 
          UM, AND, AND I GUESS, UH, OFFLINE, I WOULD LIKE TO LEARN WHERE YOU, WHAT THE SOURCE IS FOR THE AUSTIN PIECE, BECAUSE I DID SPEAK TO SEVERAL AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT, UM, EXPRESSED THAT THIS HASN'T BEEN DISCUSSED WITH, UH, THEIR CITY, UH, ATTORNEYS. 
          SO THEY, THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE OUR PRESENTATION GOT THIS. 
          SO THAT'D BE HELPFUL. 
          FINE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I CAN EMAIL YOU THE LINK. 
          I, I, I FOUND BASICALLY THE ARTICLE, THE PRESS RELEASE. 
          I SAW IT. 
          I READ IT. 
          SO YES, I CAN EMAIL THAT TO YOU. 
          YES, PLEASE SEND ME THE ARTICLE. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES, THANK YOU COUNCILMAN. 
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AND JUST, UM, TO WRAP UP. 
          SO I, I DEFINITELY THINK I DO APPRECIATE THE, THE TEMPERATURE THRESHOLD, RIGHT? I MEAN, I PUT A TEMPERATURE THRESHOLD ON MY DAD, SO I'M LIKE, YEAH, SO WE SHOULD PROBABLY LOOK AT THAT AND FIGURE OUT WHAT ONE WOULD BE, BUT ALSO, AND THE COUNCILMAN ME, UH, MENTIONED SAWS. 
          UM, WHAT, DO WE KNOW WHAT C P S AND VIA AND, AND ANY OF THE ENTITIES DO ALREADY, OR, UM, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO KIND OF SHARE WITH THEM? I DO WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, UM, IF ERIC WALSH WAS HERE, AND I THINK HE WAS GONNA TRY TO BE HERE, HE WAS, UM, TELLING ME THAT, UH, THE CITY HAS CERTAIN THINGS IN PLACE. 
          THEY'VE BEEN PUSHING OUT A WHOLE LOT OF EMAILS. 
          I MEAN, WE GET THEM AS WELL, UM, REMINDING PEOPLE TO BE CAREFUL, ET CETERA. 
          UM, BUT I, I'D LOVE TO SEE LIKE WHAT, WHAT WE CAN ALL DO COLLECTIVELY WITH THOSE OTHER ENTITIES AS WELL. 
          AND MAYBE WE COULD LEARN FROM THEM. 
          MAYBE THEY HAVE SOMETHING THAT THEY, THEY, THEY MIGHT ALREADY HAVE A THRESHOLD, RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW. 
          BUT, UM, I MEAN, MAYBE IF YOU COULD LOOK INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE, I'D LOVE TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THEM, OR MAYBE WE COULD ENCOURAGE THEM TO DO THAT. 
          AND THEN I ALSO, I FEEL BAD BECAUSE EVERY TIME, AND I KEEP SAYING CONSTRUCTION AND I FEEL BAD BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST A CONSTRUCTION AGENCY. 
          IT'S THAT, THAT, AND, AND IT'S, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. 
          WE HAVE REALLY GOOD CONTRACTORS OUT THERE AS WELL, BUT LIKE THE ROOFERS, UM, GOSH, LIKE THAT, THAT, THAT'S ANOTHER ONE. 
          SO I DON'T WANNA JUST, UM, WEIGH IN ON JUST THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY, I GUESS IS WHAT I'M SAYING. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND SO TO, UM, THAT POINT, COUNCIL AND  BROUGHT UP SOME GOOD POINTS ALSO ON, UH, SPORTS, ET CETERA. 
          AND I'D LOVE TO REVISIT THAT OR VISIT THAT, BUT I THINK THAT WE SHOULD MOVE AHEAD, RIGHT, WITH THIS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. 
          AND SO, UM, WITH, WITH THAT SAID, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE BY COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO, AND, UM, IF THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION, WE'LL TAKE UP THE, THE VOTE FOR THAT, UNLESS ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANYTHING ELSE. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          COUNCILMAN. 
          MIGHT I JUST ASK, UM, SINCE WE'VE RECEIVED THIS COLLECTIVELY, CAN WE OFFER SOME OTHER INPUT FROM WHAT WE'VE BEEN READING FROM THESE OTHER CITIES TO ASK TO BE CONSIDERED? BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, A WHOLE ORDINANCE, NOT JUST ONE THING ADDRESSING LIKE BREAKS. 
          SO THERE MIGHT BE OTHER FACTORS WE WANNA PUT IN THERE. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, I, I JUST LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTACT THE OFFICE AND, AND SHARE SOME OF MY THOUGHTS ABOUT A FEW OF THESE OTHERS THAT MIGHT GET BUILT IN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU COUNCIL AND COURAGE. 
          AND SO, UM, THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE TABLE. 
          ALL IN FAVOR OF MOVING THIS FORWARD TO, UM, WOULD IT BE B SESSION OR WOULD BE TO FULL COUNSEL? FULL COUNSEL. 
          PERFECT. 
          UH, SO ON THE AUGUST THE FIRST MEETING, YOU HAVE IT READY? WE CAN HAVE IT READY? YES. 
          WELL, WHY, WHY DON'T WE JUST GIVE OURSELVES SOME FLEXIBILITY AND SAY, UH, A MEETING IN AUGUST, SO WE HAVE A OKAY TO THE A, A MEETING IN AUGUST. 
          COUNCILMAN READY? JUST THE URGENCY. 
          I UNDERSTAND THEY HAVE WHAT, BUT I THINK THREE OF US ARE THE THREE OF THE FOUR THAT SIT ON THAT COMMITTEE. 
          UH, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT, UM, WE, WE MOVE IT TO, UH, AUGUST, UH, COUNCIL SESSION YES. 
          TO MOVE IT FORWARD. 
          YES, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
          BUT WE DON'T HAVE AN, THE, THE, THE, I THINK THE QUESTION WAS LIKE THE FIRST MEETING OR, BUT ROD WANTED A LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY IT SOUNDS LIKE, BUT I JUST, I JUST WANNA MAKE, BECAUSE WE, YEAH, THREE OF US ARE HERE FROM CHECK, BUT I, I'D LIKE OUR OTHER CHECK MEMBERS TO, WHICH IS JUST JAYLYN, BUT, UM, AND THEN PROBABLY OUR NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS NEED A, NEED A BRIEFING. 
          UM, SO FOR IT, SO IF WE COULD HAVE IT IT, THE B THE FIRST B SESSION OF AUGUST, COULD WE DO THAT AND THEN WE COULD VOTE ON IT THE SECOND, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO WAIT, I THINK WE SHOULD AGENDIZE IT FOR FULL SESSION, BUT CAN AMIN AND ROD, UM, UH, BRIEF COUNCIL MEMBERS INDIVIDUALLY OVER, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. 
          WE, WE CAN BRIEF COUNCIL MEMBERS INDIVIDUALLY. 
          DO YOU THINK THAT'S OKAY? BECAUSE I MEAN, THERE'S FOUR OF US HERE ALREADY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD TO AN AUGUST, UM, SESSION OR, OR ACTUALLY IT'S THE VOTE. 
          SO ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY AGAINST, ANY ABSTENTIONS? MOTION CARRIES. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU ALL, UH, FOR YOUR WORK ON ITEM NUMBER TWO. 
          WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS A BRIEFING AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON CHAPTER 16, ARTICLE EIGHT OF USED AUTOMOTIVE PARTS AND RECYCLERS AND METAL RECYCLING ENTITIES. 
          IS IT STILL YOU, I MEAN, YOU'RE DOING ALL THE WORK TODAY. 
          YES. 
          DID YOU KNOW THAT YOUR NAME MEANS HARDWORKING OR WHAT AMILE MEANS? HOW HARDWORKING. 
          SO THAT'S WHY I WAS CALLING YOU A MEAL, BUT IT'S AME I'LL, I'LL TAKE IT. 
          IT'S AME I'LL . 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          AGAIN, THIS IS AMIN THOMAS DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. 
          I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT, UH, BRIEFING AND UPDATE ON, UM, THE USED AUTO PARTS AND METAL RECYCLING ENTITIES. 
          I DID COME FORWARD TO 
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P C D C IN NOVEMBER LAST YEAR AND PRESENTED BASICALLY THE SAME TOPIC. 
          UM, SO JUST REAL QUICK HERE TO REMIND YOU THAT THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2008, AND THEN IN 2012 THERE WAS SOME MODIFICATIONS. 
          MAINLY THE DEFINITION AND THE NAME BASICALLY CHANGED. 
          SO THE, THE DEFINITION OF, UH, METAL RECYCLING ENTITIES IS BASICALLY ANY PROPERTY THAT THE OPERATOR ACQUIRES OR PURCHASES A SCRAP USED OR FERRIS OR NON FERRIS METALS, OR IF THEY USE THAT METAL AND DO MANUFACTURING PROCESSING TO BRING IT BACK INTO ITS RAW MATERIAL THAT IS CONSIDERED METAL RECYCLING FACILITIES. 
          AND AGAIN, I CALL THEM MRES TO MAKE IT EASY. 
          UH, THE OTHER ONE IS, UH, USED AUTO PARTS RECYCLERS. 
          BASICALLY, AGAIN, ANYTHING IN RELATIONSHIP WITH, UH, MOTOR VEHICLES IS DISMANTLING THE VEHICLE, REUSING THE PARTS, OR RESELLING THE PARTS. 
          BASICALLY THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY IT. 
          SO HERE IS A, A QUICK, UM, GRAPH BASICALLY THAT SHOWS ALL THE RES THE METAL RECYCLING ENTITIES ON IT. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE THE MAJORITY OF THEM ARE IN DISTRICT FIVE. 
          UH, A LOT OF THEM IN FOUR AS WELL, LIKE FOUR AND FIVE, BUT MAINLY FIVE FOR RES, UH, U APRS, BASICALLY. 
          THEY'RE MORE IN DISTRICT FOUR THEN FIVE. 
          UM, AND I KNOW IT'S HARD TO SEE ALL THE DOTS, SO THAT'S WHY HERE IS THE LIST OF THEM. 
          UM, SO BASICALLY ALL THE RES AND NEW APRS ARE IN DISTRICTS ONE TO SIX, BUT AS I SAID, DISTRICT FOUR AND FIVE ARE THE MAIN ONES THAT THEY HAVE THE MAJORITY. 
          SO DISTRICT FOUR HAS FOUR LOCATIONS, DISTRICT FIVE HAS 17 COMBINED LOCATIONS. 
          SO AGAIN, THE REQUIREMENTS. 
          SO ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO OPERATE EITHER ONE OF THOSE TWO TYPES OF, UH, BUSINESSES, NUMBER ONE, THEY NEED TO HAVE THE RIGHT ZONING. 
          SO ZONING COULD BE ACCOMPLISHED IN TWO DIFFERENT METHODS. 
          ONE IS THEY NEED TO HAVE THE INDUSTRIAL ZONE I TWO WITH A SPECIAL USE. 
          AND THE SPECIAL USE IS APPROVED BY COUNCIL. 
          UH, WE HAVE 11 OF THOSE LOCATIONS HAVE THAT I TWO WITH SPECIAL USE. 
          SO THEY ARE ACTUALLY OFFICIALLY ABLE TO OPERATE FOREVER AT THOSE LOCATIONS WITH THAT, UH, ZONING. 
          THE REST, 57 OF THEM, THEY DON'T HAVE THE APPROPRIATE ZONING, BUT THEY HAVE THE NONCONFORMING USE. 
          SO WHAT HAPPENED IS IN 2012, THE CITY WENT DID, UH, FOR RESEARCH, CHECKED EVERY LOCATION, ANY BUSINESS THAT WAS IN OPERATION AND REMAINED IN OPERATION. 
          WE GAVE THEM A NON-CONFORMING USE LETTER SAYING, YOU ARE GOOD TO STAY AS LONG AS YOU DON'T EXPAND AND YOU DON'T SHUT DOWN FOR MORE THAN 12 MONTHS BASED ON, AGAIN, THE GUIDELINES FOR NON-CONFORMING RIGHTS IN THE U D C. 
          SO THAT'S STEP ONE IS TO HAVE THE ZONING. 
          STEP TWO OBVIOUSLY IS TO GET THE LICENSE, THE CITY LICENSE, AND THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. 
          TO GET THAT, YOU NEED TO GET WITH DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY, IF YOU HAVE M R E, YOU NEED TO GET WITH THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF LICENSING AND REGULATIONS. 
          IF YOU HAVE A SALVAGE, THE U A P R, BOTH OF THOSE USES, THEY NEED TO GET A PERMIT FROM T C E Q AND FROM SARS AS WELL. 
          UM, AND AT THAT POINT WE WILL ISSUE OUR LICENSE TO THEM. 
          UH, LAST TIME WHEN WE PRESENTED IN NOVEMBER, THERE WAS SOME QUESTIONS A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILED ABOUT T C E Q AND SARS. 
          UH, BOTH OF THOSE, UH, AGENCIES, THEY DO ISSUE, UH, A YEARLY PERMIT, UH, TO BOTH OF THOSE TYPES OF, UH, BUSINESSES. 
          AND WE MAKE SURE THAT WE RECEIVE THOSE AND THEY'RE CLEAR TO OPERATE, UM, IF THEY FOLLOW ALL THE GUIDELINES. 
          THE ONE THING, UH, YOU ASKED ME LAST TIME IS DO THEY DO REGULAR INSPECTIONS? THE ANSWER TO THAT IS NO. 
          THEY, THEY ONLY DO REACTIVE INSPECTIONS. 
          SO ANYTIME WE SEE ANYTHING, WE SEE ANY LEAKS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, WE DO CONTACT T C E Q TO COME AND DO INSPECTIONS AND WE GO WITH THEM TO THE SITE AND WE SHOW THEM EXACTLY WHAT WE FOUND. 
          SAME THING WITH SASA AS WELL. 
          UH, SO OBVIOUSLY THOSE REACTIVE CALLS CAN COME FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT OR THEY CAN COME FROM ANY CITIZEN AROUND THE AREA AND THEY DO GET THOSE CALLS AND THEY RESPOND TO THEM APPROPRIATELY. 
          SO OUR TEAM OF ENFORCEMENT, WE HAVE TWO CODE OFFICERS WHO ARE DEDICATED AND ASSIGNED TO THOSE TYPE OF PROPERTIES AND BUSINESSES. 
          THEY'RE ACTUALLY PART OF OUR LICENSING AND ZONING TEAM OF CODE ENFORCEMENT. 
          BUT AGAIN, THEY'RE ONLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE TWO TYPES, THE MRES AND THE U APRS. 
          WHAT THEY DO IS THEY DO REGULAR INSPECTIONS, UM, BETWEEN ONE MONTH AND THREE MONTH, UH, INTERVALS. 
          THEY CHECK EVERY LOCATION, UM, ESPECIALLY THE ONES THAT THEY NEED MORE ATTENTION. 
          WE GO ON MONTHLY BASIS. 
          THE ONES THAT THEY NEED LESS ATTENTION, WE, WE HIT THEM QUARTERLY EVERY TIME WE GO OUT THERE TO INSPECT. 
          WE CHECKED EVERYTHING WE NEED TO CHECK, CERTIFICATE 
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OF OCCUPANCY, CITY LICENSE, FENCING, MAINTENANCE FOR RODENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          WHEN WE FINISH THAT INSPECTION, WE DO, WE HAVE A CHECKLIST. 
          WE CHECK EVERY ITEM. 
          WE SAY, EITHER YOU FAILED OR YOU PASSED. 
          IF THEY PASSED, THAT'S AWESOME. 
          IF THEY FAILED, WE SPECIFICALLY TELL THEM WHAT THEY FAILED FOR, AND THAT WAY THEY CAN CORRECT THE ISSUE. 
          AND IF THEY DON'T, OBVIOUSLY WE, WE ISSUE CITATIONS. 
          SO HERE IS SOME OF THE KEY SAFETY INSPECTION ITEMS THAT WE CHECK. 
          CHAPTER 16 BASICALLY, SPECIFICALLY SAYS ANY OF THOSE ENTITIES, THEY NEED TO BE FENCED IN ON ALL SIDES. 
          AND THE REASON FOR THAT, A LOT OF IT IS RODENT BARRIER. 
          IF THERE IS ANY RODENTS ON THAT SITE, WE DON'T WANT THEM TO LEAVE THAT LOCATION BASICALLY. 
          AND OBVIOUSLY THEY NEED TO HAVE, UH, A RODENT CONTROL. 
          THEY NEED TO HAVE THE, THE LOGS, THEY NEED TO SHOW US THAT EVERY SIX MONTH MINIMUM THEY HAVE THAT TAKEN CARE OF AND ALL THE LOGS NEED TO BE CHECKED. 
          WE DO THAT WHEN WE DO INSPECTIONS. 
          ANYTIME THERE IS WEED BRUSH, UH, TALL GRASS, THINGS LIKE THAT, THEY NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THAT. 
          AND AGAIN, THAT'S ONE OF THE ITEMS WE, WE SEE A LOT OF, ONE OF THE FIRE SAFETY ISSUES IS BASICALLY FIRE LANES IF NEEDED, OR AT LEAST MINIMUM 10 FOOT SETBACK AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE FACILITY. 
          SO THAT ALLOWS FIREFIGHTERS TO GO IN IF THEY NEED TO AT ANY TIME. 
          OR E M S OR ANYBODY, UH, U A P R HAS A SPEC SPECIAL REQUIREMENT. 
          ANY COMPONENT EV ANY SALVAGE ITEM THEY HAVE, IT NEEDS TO BE MINIMUM SIX FOOT, UH, SIX INCHES FROM THE GROUND TO MAKE SURE, AGAIN, RODENTS CANNOT HIDE IN THOSE VEHICLES OR, OR ANY OF THOSE SALVAGE EQUIPMENT OR ITEMS. AND OBVIOUSLY TO ALLOW THEM TO CUT THE GRASS IF IT'S, IF THERE'S GRASS THERE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          AND WE CAN ACTUALLY SEE IF THERE IS ANY LEAKS AS WELL. 
          'CAUSE IF THE VEHICLE IS HIGHER, WE CAN'T SEE IF THERE IS ANY LEAKS FROM THE VEHICLE ON THE GROUND. 
          WE DO WORK WITH A LOT OF ENTITIES. 
          WE WORK WITH SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          IF WE SEE ANYTHING UNUSUAL OR WE, WE THINK, OR WE RECEIVE ANY CALLS ABOUT SOME THEFT OR ITEMS LIKE THAT. 
          SO WE, WE DEAL WITH, UH, WE HELP, UH, SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          WE WORK WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, OBVIOUSLY, SAN ANTONIO WATER SYSTEM, AND BUNCH OF AGENCIES FROM THE STATE, T C E Q, UH, D P S, AND, UH, TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF LICENSING AND REGULATIONS. 
          SO HERE IS A LITTLE BIT SOME INFORMATION SINCE WE, WE MET, OBVIOUSLY, UM, I PUSHED THE TEAM. 
          I SAID, I WANNA INSPECT EVERY LOCATION IN 60 DAYS. 
          ALL OF THEM, A HUNDRED PERCENT DO DETAILED INSPECTION TO MAKE SURE WE BRING ALL THE INFORMATION TO YOU. 
          SO WE DID THAT. 
          BUT NOW THIS INFORMATION IS BASICALLY FROM OCTOBER ONE. 
          SO THIS FISCAL YEAR SO FAR, FROM OCTOBER ONE TO TODAY, WE DID 492, UH, 400, 400, 549 INSPECTIONS SO FAR, I DON'T HAVE IT LISTED HERE, BUT 416 PASSED, 133 FAILED. 
          SO THAT'S ABOUT 75% PASS RATE, WHICH IS NOT BAD. 
          UM, AND AGAIN, NOW BECAUSE WE ARE PUSHING HARDER AND WE ARE MAKING SURE THEY KNOW WE ARE HERE AND WE ARE DOING THE INSPECTIONS, HOPEFULLY THAT PERCENTAGE GOES UP JUST BECAUSE DURING COVID AND ALL THAT, WE KIND OF SLOWED DOWN, AND MAYBE THAT'S WHY WE HAVE SOME, UH, ISSUES OUT THERE. 
          BUT AS I SAID, EVEN 75% PASS RATE IS ACTUALLY REALLY GOOD. 
          UM, WE DID ISSUE DURING THIS TIME, SO FAR, 103 CLASS C MISDEMEANORS. 
          THEY RANGE FROM A HUNDRED DOLLARS TO $2,000, UH, A TICKET, DEPENDING ON IF THEY REPEAT OFFENDERS OR NOT. 
          THE OTHER QUESTION YOU HAD LAST TIME IS, WHAT CAN WE DO OTHER THAN CITATIONS? AND THE NEXT STEP ACTUALLY IS TO DO, UH, WE CALL IT INTENT TO REVOKE. 
          SO WE CAN SAY, WE CAN REVOKE YOUR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, WE CAN REVOKE, UH, THE LICENSE ITSELF. 
          WE CAN BASICALLY DISCONNECT UTILITIES IF NEEDED. 
          UM, AND OBVIOUSLY THE, THE BIGGEST ONE IS WE CAN REVOKE THE NON-CONFORMING RIGHTS. 
          SO IF THEY HAVE A NON-CONFORMING RIGHT LETTER TO ALLOW THEM TO OPERATE, IF THEY LOSE THAT, THEY CANNOT OPERATE ANYMORE. 
          SO ANY OF THOSE CAN HAPPEN. 
          AND WE'VE DONE, IN THE LAST 60 DAYS, WE DID, UH, FIVE OF THOSE, BASICALLY ONE FOR NONCONFORMING RIGHTS, TWO FOR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, ONE UTILITY DISCONNECT, AND ONE LICENSE, UH, REVOCATION. 
          AGAIN, THE PROCESS IS WE GIVE THEM AN INTENT, A LETTER SAYING WITHIN 30 DAYS, WE GONNA REVOKE IT UNLESS YOU CORRECT THE ISSUES. 
          IF THAT TIME PASSES, THEN ACTUALLY THE NEXT STEP WILL BE TO REVOKE WHATEVER THAT ISSUE IS, AGAIN, NON-CONFORMING, C F O OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          AND THEN WE GO FROM THERE. 
          SO WE, WE ARE ACTUALLY ON TOP OF IT RIGHT NOW. 
          SO BASICALLY, IN SUMMARY, THOSE TWO USES ARE VERY SPECIAL USES, AND THEY NEED LICENSE LICENSES, VERY SPECIFIC LICENSES. 
          AS WE MENTIONED. 
          THEY NEED TO OBTAIN ALL THE DOCUMENTATION TO GET THE LICENSE. 
          I BELIEVE IT'S REALLY, UH, AN IMPORTANT BUSINESS FOR OUR CITY. 
          I MEAN, WE WANT TO RECYCLE AS MUCH METAL AS WE CAN 
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AND PARTS, VEHICLE PARTS, WE WANNA RECYCLE THOSE AS AS MUCH AS WE CAN. 
          UH, AGAIN, WE HAVE THE PROACTIVE INSPECTIONS. 
          SO AGAIN, WE DON'T GO LIKE, UH, T C E Q AND SARS ON REACTIVE CODES. 
          WE DO GO OUT AND INSPECT, AS I SAID, MINIMUM ONCE A MONTH, SOMETIMES UP, UM, SORRY, MINIMUM THREE MONTHS AND SOMETIMES EVERY MONTH, DEPENDING ON THE LOCATION. 
          UH, WE DID LOOK AT OTHER CITIES IN TEXAS, AUSTIN, HOUSTON, DALLAS, AND EL PASO. 
          AND THEIR, THEIR ORDINANCE IS VERY, VERY SIMILAR TO OURS. 
          MAINLY THE ONLY DIFFERENCE I WANNA SAY IS SOMETIMES THE FINES, OUR FINES ARE DIFFERENT THAN THEIR FINES, BUT THE OVERALL PROCESS, THE OVERALL LICENSE REQUIREMENTS IS THE SAME. 
          AND THE OTHER DIFFERENCE IS THE ENFORCEMENT AGENCY, WE ENFORCE IT CODE, ENFORCE CODE ENFORCEMENT. 
          A, UH, DEPARTMENT ENFORCES THIS, AND THE OTHER CITIES, UH, PD DOES IT. 
          THAT'S THE ONLY DIFFERENCE. 
          OTHER THAN THAT, I FEEL LIKE BEST PRACTICES, ALL THE CITIES IN SAN ANTONIO ARE KIND OF FOLLOWING THE SAME RULES. 
          THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. 
          I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          AM MEAN, I APPRECIATE THIS, UM, BRIEFING. 
          I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. 
          ON SLIDE 11, I SEE THERE'S 103 REPORTED CITATIONS, CLASS C CITATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023, AND THAT SEEMS A LITTLE HIGH FOR THE 75 ESTABLISHMENTS. 
          IS THAT NORMAL? UM, HONESTLY, I DIDN'T GO BACK AND CHECK ON PREVIOUS YEARS, BUT AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, UH, DURING COVID, WE SLOWED DOWN THE ENFORCEMENT ON EVERYTHING AS EVERYBODY KNOWS. 
          SO, UM, MAYBE THAT'S WHY WE HAVE IT. 
          IT COULD BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN NORMAL, BUT, UH, A LOT OF THEM ARE KIND OF GETTING INTO COMPLIANCE REALLY QUICK. 
          EVEN IF WE ISSUE A CITATION WITHIN DAYS AFTER THAT, THEY'RE GETTING INTO COMPLIANCE. 
          SO I THINK WE ARE GETTING OUR MESSAGE OUT. 
          THEY UNDERSTAND THEY NEED TO MEET ALL THE REGULATIONS AND RULES, AND, UH, WE, WE ARE, WE ARE GETTING THEM TO COMPLY. 
          AND ARE THESE BUSINESSES GIVEN, UM, A NOTICE BASICALLY TO COMPLY BEFORE THE CITATION IS ISSUED? OR ARE THEY ISSUED AT THE TIME OF THE INSPECTION, OR I GUESS HELP ME WALK THROUGH THAT PROCESS? ABSOLUTELY. 
          SO BECAUSE THEY HAVE PROACTIVE REGULAR INSPECTIONS, THEY DON'T NEED A NOTICE. 
          THEY'RE BASICALLY CONSIDERED UNDER THE ANNUAL NOTICE. 
          WHEN THEY GET THEIR LICENSE, THEY KNOW WE'RE GONNA INSPECT THEM. 
          THEY KNOW THE RULES, THEY KNOW WHAT WE'RE GONNA INSPECT AS GOOD FAITH. 
          WHAT I DID IS, AFTER WE MET IN NOVEMBER, I TOLD MY TEAM, BECAUSE WE ARE STARTING KIND OF, I WANT TO CALL IT FRESH AFTER C AND WE GONNA PUSH HARD EVERY LOCATION YOU GO TO, GIVE THEM 10 DAY NOTICE ON ANY ISSUE THEY HAVE AND MAKE SURE THEY COMPLY. 
          SO WE GAVE EVERYBODY NOTICES FIRST, AND THEN WE START HITTING THEM WITH CITATIONS IF THEY DID NOT COMPLY. 
          WHAT IS THE MOST COMMON VIOLATION? UH, THE MOST COMMON VIOLATION, HONESTLY, IS, UM, TRASH AND, AND TALL GRASS, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          THAT'S REALLY THE MAIN ONE. 
          UH, THERE IS FEW OF THEM THAT THEY DID NOT RENEW THEIR LICENSE THIS LAST YEAR. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , AND THAT'S, THOSE ARE THE ONES, MAINLY THEY'RE GETTING THE CITATIONS. 
          SO WE ARE ON TOP OF THAT. 
          DO YOU THINK, WOULD YOU SAY THAT IT'S MOSTLY PROACTIVE OR REACTIVE? UM, THE CITATIONS, LIKE, 'CAUSE IS IT BECAUSE OUR TEAM IS OUT THERE INSPECTING, OR IS IT BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE CALLING? BECAUSE I'VE GOT, LIKE, SEE A WHOLE LOT OF PICTURES HERE THAT I'M LIKE, OKAY, I'M GONNA HAVE TO GIVE THESE OVER TO OMI. 
          AND I'M SURE THERE'S SEVERAL VIOLATIONS HERE, BUT YES, MA'AM. 
          UM, THE MAJORITY OF THEM ARE PROACTIVE BECAUSE AGAIN, WE GO OUT ANYWAYS AND WE DO OUR INSPECTIONS. 
          NOW, SOMETIMES WE GET CALLS ABOUT THE LOCATION THAT WE ARE PLANNING TO GO VISIT, LET'S SAY A WEEK LATER OR TWO WEEKS LATER. 
          SO WHAT WE DO IS WE CHANGE THE SCHEDULE, GO TO IT FASTER BECAUSE WE GOT THE COMPLAINT, BUT IN GENERAL, THEY'RE REALLY PROACTIVE, UH, INSPECTIONS. 
          WHAT WERE THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE FROM THE 2008 TO THE 2012? UM, ORDINANCE? YEAH, MA, MAINLY IT WAS, UH, JUST DEFINITIONS. 
          UH, THEY CHANGED THE SALVAGE TO U A P R, BASICALLY USED AUTO PARTS, UM, AND JUST THE NAMING CONVENTION, THE, THE, THE DEFINITION AS WELL. 
          BUT OVERALL, IT'S, IT'S THE SAME. 
          DO YOU THINK THAT INCREASING FINES OR DOING SOMETHING ELSE, WHAT WOULD HELP DECREASE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE BEING CITED? I MEAN, EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE, BUT AS I SAID, WE HAVE THE NEXT STEP, UH, TO AGAIN, REVOKE THEIR, UH, NON-CONFORMING RIGHTS OR THEIR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY OR LICENSE. 
          SO I THINK NOW WHEN WE ARE HITTING THOSE, THEY'RE REALLY PAYING ATTENTION BECAUSE IF THEY LOSE ANY OF THOSE, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO SHUT DOWN. 
          AND THAT'S THEIR BUSINESS. 
          SO NOW THEY'RE REALLY PAYING ATTENTION AND I'M ASSUMING LIKE, SO, SO, SO YOU DO BEST PRACTICES WITH OTHER CITIES AS WELL WITH THIS? OKAY. 
          YES. 
          AND THEN, UM, FOR THE 56 OR 57, NON-CONFORMING, NON-CONFORMING, UM, ARE THEY RE I GUESS LIKE IF SOME ONE OF THOSE IS GONNA TRY TO SELL A PROPERTY, ARE THEY REQUIRED TO DISCLOSE THAT THEY'RE IN, UM, NON-COMPLIANCE 
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BEFORE THEY SELL IT? I'M, I'M, I WANNA SAY THEY SHOULD, BUT I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S WRITTEN ANYWHERE. 
          NOW, AGAIN, BECAUSE WE DO REGULAR INSPECTIONS, I MEAN, WE, THESE, WE DO SEE SOME OF THOSE. 
          WHEN WE GO THE NEXT MONTH AND WE SEE NEW OWNER, WE TELL THEM WE ARE HERE TO DO AN INSPECTION. 
          I THINK SO FAR MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE TEAM IS WHEN THEY MEET NEW OPERATOR, THEY ALREADY KNOW ABOUT OUR INSPECTIONS AND THEY KNOW ABOUT THE LICENSE. 
          SO I WANNA SAY YES, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S WRITTEN ANYWHERE TO SAY THAT THEY HAVE TO DISCLOSE OF THAT. 
          ARE THEY POSTED ONLINE ANYWHERE, OR, UM, ARE THEY POSTED ON THEM? UM, AS FAR AS OUR REGULATIONS, YES. 
          THE RE NO, THE REGULATIONS ARE, BUT THE LOCATIONS, DO WE HAVE A LIST OF THEM ONLINE? NO, WE DON'T. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, 'CAUSE I, I MEAN THAT, THAT, BUT MAYBE THAT'S FOR ANOTHER THING OR FOR LATER TO CONSIDER, BUT I DEFINITELY THINK THAT, UM, THAT THE OPPORTUNITIES THERE, UM, I THINK WE CAN DEFINITELY LIST THEM. 
          WE CAN, I MEAN, WE HAVE THE LIST. 
          WE CAN EASILY PUT IT ONLINE. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK IT MIGHT BE A, A GOOD, UM, PRACTICE. 
          AND, UM, MOST OF THESE ARE IN DISTRICT FOUR AND FIVE, SO, UM, YES. 
          UM, SO, SO I THINK COUNCILMAN CASTILLO AND I HAVE A VESTED INTEREST, AND I THINK, UM, PEOPLE, I, I THINK THEY CONFUSED ME AND HER A LOT, AND SO WE'LL JUST TAKE IT. 
          SO LIKE, YEAH, SURE, I'LL WORK ON IT. 
          BUT, UM, BUT ANYWAY, SO I WAS GONNA START WITH HER, BUT, UH, SHE HAD TO STEP UP FOR JUST A SECOND. 
          SO I'LL START WITH COUNCILWOMAN . 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO, UM, MY FIRST QUESTION IS BECAUSE OF WHERE MY AREA SITS, UM, I KNOW I DO HAVE, UM, IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR IN THAT AREA, WE DO HAVE SOME RES AND, UM, AUTO PARTS UAPS, UH, THAT SIT JUST OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS. 
          SO ARE, ARE WE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE DOING THEIR PORTION OR IS IT A FREE FOR ALL IF THEY'RE IN THE COUNTY? ? YEAH, WE, WE, WE MANAGE AND MONITOR AND INSPECT THE ONES IN THE CITY LIMITS. 
          UM, THE ONES IN THE COUNTY, THE COUNTY ENFORCES. 
          UM, I CAN DEFINITELY REACH OUT TO THEM AND TALK TO THEM AND, UH, HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. 
          YEAH, I'M, I'M, BUT, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO ENFORCE, SO, SO LET, UH, I, I WANNA LOOK SPECIFICALLY AT THE AREAS AROUND MISSION, MISSION DE LAGO, ROOSEVELT, THE T J X AREA, UH, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE SOME, UH, SITTING IN THE COUNTY, UM, THAT IMPACT OR THAT THE RESIDENTS WANT THE CITY TO HANDLE AND, AND TRYING TO IDENTIFY THOSE IN, IN THAT BORDER, UH, BETWEEN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR. 
          THE OTHER IS, SO I HAVE A LOT OF AUTO REPAIR IN THE INNER CITY WITHOUT, IN WITHIN DISTRICT THREE, THAT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE TURNING INTO, UM, RECYCLING, UH, OF VEHICLES BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST NOT MOVING ON THEM. 
          IS THERE A WAY TO KIND OF HELP THEM TO GET THE, THE ZONING OR, UM, TO, TO KIND OF UPGRADE TO THE, UM, AUTO REPORT RECYCLING? SURE. 
          UM, SO AS I MENTIONED FOR ZONING, THERE IS TWO OPTIONS. 
          ONE, IF THEY'RE IN EXISTENCE ALREADY MM-HMM. 
           AT THE TIME IN 2012, THEY RECEIVED THE LETTER. 
          SO I THINK WE COVERED EVERYBODY WHO WAS IN EXISTENCE AT THAT TIME. 
          NOW, IF THEY'RE NEW, THEY CAN, THEY HAVE TO GO TO COUNCIL AND GET THAT, UH, SPECIAL USE, UH, ZONING APPROVED BY, BY Y'ALL. 
          OKAY. 
          BECAUSE IT WAS, AND IT WAS AN I TWO SPECIAL USE, UH, I TWO WITH AN SS, THEY HAVE TO BE AN I TWO, AND THEN YOU GET THE SPECIAL USE ON TOP OF THAT. 
          SO, OTHER THING TO TAKE TO CONSIDER IS AN I TWO IS ONE OF THE MOST INTENSE ZONING DISTRICTS THAT WE HAVE. 
          SO, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE ALL ZONING CASES, WE'RE GONNA SEND NOTICES OUT TO EVERYONE WITH THE 200 FEET. 
          SO, UH, MY GUESS IS THERE WOULD BE SOME PRETTY GOOD DISCUSSIONS REVOLVING AROUND A CASE LIKE THAT. 
          SO DO WE HAVE A THRESHOLD OF, OKAY, YOU ARE AN AUTOBODY REPAIR SHOP, AND THEN IT'S LIKE, NO, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TOO MANY, UM, PARTS IN, IN YOUR FACILITY. 
          YOU ARE NOW ACTUALLY JUST RECYCLING. 
          DO WE HAVE A THRESHOLD FOR THAT? NO, THERE IS NO THRESHOLD IN CHAPTER 16. 
          IT'S REALLY MAINLY WHAT'S THE MAIN USE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I THINK IF THERE ARE AUTO REPAIR SHOP, AND THEY HAVE OBVIOUSLY FEW PARTS HERE AND THERE, I MEAN, THAT'S THEIR MAIN USE IS AUTO REPAIR. 
          UM, IF THEY'RE TURNING INTO SALVAGE, THEN THAT'S DIFFERENT DISCUSSION. 
          WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT. 
          AND IF THAT BECOMES THEIR MAIN BUSINESS, THEN OBVIOUSLY THEY CANNOT OPERATE UNLESS THEY GET THE ZONING. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I THINK, I THINK WE'LL NEED TO HAVE, 'CAUSE I'LL, I'LL HAVE TO LOOK BACK AT SOME OF MY CODE, UH, COMPLAINTS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          'CAUSE I THINK WHAT WE'RE, WHAT I'M SEEING IS FROM SOME OF THE RESIDENTS IS WHAT USED TO BE A REPAIR SHOP BECAUSE THEY CAN'T, UH, SERVICE NEWER VEHICLES. 
          THEY'RE 
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JUST BECOMING A SALVAGE YARD. 
          I SEE. 
          AND, AND WE NEED TO, UM, KIND OF INVESTIGATE THAT BECAUSE SOME OF THEM, THESE ARE LEGACY BUSINESSES THAT I DON'T WANT TO CLOSE DOWN, BUT IF, IF THEY, IF THEY NEED TO CHANGE THE ZONING, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT TOO. 
          AND WELL, AND YOU KNOW, IN DISTRICT THREE, WE HAVE, WE HAVE INDUSTRIAL AND DIFFERENT POCKETS THAT, THAT THEY COULD BE FUNCTIONING IN. 
          SO, UH, YEAH, IF YOU, IF YOU CAN HAVE YOUR TEAM SEND US THOSE ADDRESSES, WE WILL DEFINITELY CHECK ON THEM. 
          YEAH, I I WILL DEFINITELY WORK ON THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILMAN . 
          COUNCILMAN CASTILLO. 
          THANK YOU CHAIR. 
          UH, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT THESE FACILITIES ARE IMPORTANT TO OUR CIRCULAR ECONOMY AND ENSURING THAT WE DON'T HAVE, UH, MUCH WASTE. 
          RIGHT? UH, AND, AND I, I RECOGNIZE, AND I WANNA THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING THE HISTORY AND CONTEXT OF WHY THERE'S SUCH A HIGH CONCENTRATION OF, OF THOSE PLANTS WITHIN, UM, THE, THE SOUTH AND SOUTHWEST SIDE, RIGHT? SO IN D FOUR AND D FIVE, UH, CARRY THE BRUNT OF, OF THESE METAL RECYCLING PLANTS. 
          UM, AND ULTIMATELY THE, THE CONCERN, WHAT I HEAR FROM MY COMMUNITY MEMBERS IS THE, THE EMISSIONS AND THE CONSTANT FIRES, RIGHT? IT'S, IT'S VERY FREQUENT THAT, UH, THERE WAS ONE INCIDENT WITH, UH, ONE METAL RECYCLING PLANT WHERE THE OIL WASN'T FULLY REMOVED, SO IT COMBUST AND THERE WAS A HUGE FIRE, UM, TOOK HOURS FOR OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT TO PUT OUT, UM, BECAUSE THE PILE OF THE, THE WASTE WAS STACKED SO HIGH THAT THEY HAD A MOVE PIECE BY PIECE, RIGHT? LIKE REMOVE SOME SPRAY, IT REMOVE, AND IT JUST TOOK, I THINK 18 HOURS, I THINK IS WHAT IT TOOK THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO PUT THIS OUT. 
          UM, AND, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY IS THERE THE DAY-TO-DAY EMISSIONS AND FUMES THAT ARE COMING FROM, UH, CUTTING DOWN THE WASTE, BUT ALSO WHEN THERE'S THESE FIRES, RIGHT? IT INTENSIFIES AND, UH, ACKNOWLEDGING THAT IT DOESN'T, THAT THOSE, UH, EMISSIONS DON'T STAY WITHIN DISTRICT FOUR AND FIVE, RIGHT. 
          THE, THE WIND CARRIES THEM BEYOND DISTRICT BORDERS. 
          AND WHEN WE LOOK AT, UH, THE DISPARITIES THAT OVERLAP WITH DISTRICT FOUR, FIVE, AND, AND THREE, UM, IS, YOU KNOW, HIGH CONCENTRATIONS OF ASTHMA, UH, AS WELL. 
          RIGHT? AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS A FOCUS EFFORT FROM METRO HEALTH AND THE OFFICE OF SUSTAINABILITY AND SOLID WASTE, UH, AND CODE ENFORCEMENT ON PROVIDING COMMUNITY WITH AN UNDERSTANDING ON HOW TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL INJUSTICES. 
          RIGHT? I KNOW MY, THE FOLKS WHO LIVE WITHIN THE THOMPSON AREA, UH, LIKE LARRY, WHO PROVIDED US WITH THIS PACKET, WE HAVE THE QUINTANA NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THEY HAVE FREQUENT QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS ABOUT THE AIR QUALITY IN THAT AREA. 
          AND, UH, MY OFFICE HAS MET AND HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH T E C EQ. 
          UH, AND YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'VE LEARNED IS THAT THERE ARE A LACK OF, OF RESTRICTIONS, I'D SAY, UH, IN ENFORCEMENT, RIGHT? UM, SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER TO FILL SOME OF THOSE GAPS. 
          BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, EVEN WITH THE NEW PREEMPTION BILL, I, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WILL POTENTIALLY IMPACT PERMITTING PROCESSES. 
          UH, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT CODE CAN DO WORK WITH METRO HEALTH AND SOLID WASTE ON A PUBLIC EDUCATION CAMPAIGN ON, UH, THE MISSIONS AND THE, THE CODE STANDARDS FOR THESE, UM, TYPE OF PLANTS? I'M SURE WE CAN, UM, THE EMISSIONS AND THE AIR QUALITY AND ALL THAT IS REALLY ENFORCED BY T C E Q. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , WE DON'T HAVE ANY ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM AND WE ARE NOT BASICALLY EVEN AUTHORIZED. 
          WE DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO ENFORCE THAT NOW EDUCATION CAMPAIGN, I THINK DEFINITELY WE CAN DO, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'D BE INTERESTED IN, IN MEETING WITH T C E Q TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY THINK THE GAPS ARE BETWEEN WHAT THEY DO AND WHAT WE DO, AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, SO THAT'D BE A GOOD MEETING FOR US TO HAVE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. 
          'CAUSE WHAT WE LEARNED IN OUR MEETING WITH T C Q IS THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO MONITOR EMISSION STRING EVENTS OF FIRES AT THESE SITES. 
          AND THAT THERE'S NE THERE'S NOT REALLY, THERE ARE NO REVIEWS, UH, OR REGULATIONS FOR POTENTIAL, THE POTENTIAL FIRES OR ON OF THESE ONSITE METAL RECYCLING PLANTS. 
          SO IT, IT'S JUST, IT, IT SEEMS LIKE WITH THE CITY CODE, RIGHT, WE CAN'T DO MUCH 'CAUSE OF T C E Q, BUT THEN T C E Q POINTS TO THE STATE, AND I, I'M JUST, I, I THINK WE NEED TO, TO COME TOGETHER TO SEE HOW WE CAN FILL THOSE GAPS TO SUPPORT THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES. 
          NO, I AGREE. 
          I THINK, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO ALONG WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE MM-HMM. 
          , UH, TO SEE WHAT WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO, UH, TO FILL SOME OF THOSE GAPS. 
          OKAY. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I, I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          AND, UH, THE ENFORCEMENT FROM OCTOBER 1ST TO DATE THIS, THAT'S REALLY IMPRESSIVE. 
          I MEAN, UM, HAVING ALL FOUND THAT, UH, ANY OF THE 103, UH, CITATIONS THAT WERE ISSUED, I'M SORRY, SOMEONE MAY HAVE ASKED THIS WHY I STEPPED OUT. 
          UM, DID WE SEE THAT ANY OF THOSE WERE REPEAT OFFENDERS? THERE WAS, UH, 
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THERE WAS SEVERAL OF THEM. 
          YES. 
          THERE IS ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE WHO I WANNA SAY RECEIVED THE MAJORITY OF THOSE CITATIONS. 
          AND THOSE ARE THE SAME ONES, AS I MENTIONED, WE ISSUED A NOTICE TO INTEND TO REVOKE EITHER THEIR LICENSE OR C F O OR NON-CONFORMING RIGHTS. 
          SO, AND THE, THE, THE CITATIONS THAT ARE NO LESS THAN 100 AND NO MORE THAN $2,000, WHAT FUND DID, DID THOSE CITATIONS GO WHEN THEY, THEY PAY THEIR FINE. 
          I'LL LET THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE RESPOND ANY, ANY CLASS MS DEMEANOR. 
          AND I'M, AND I'M ASKING PRIMARILY TO SEE IF THERE'S OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO SHIFT THOSE FUNDS FROM THESE, UM, VIOLATIONS SPECIFICALLY FOR THESE METAL RECYCLING PLANTS INTO THE TREE MITIGATION FUND, RIGHT. 
          TO HELP DO SOMETHING TO ALLEVIATE THE, THE CONCERNS WITH AIR QUALITY. 
          AND IF THERE'S OPPORTUNITY TO, TO SHIFT THAT TOWARDS SOMETHING TO IMPROVE THE AIR QUALITY, UH, YES, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT, UH, WHERE THOSE PARTICULAR FUNDS WOULD GO TO, UH, SOME OF OUR FEES, UH, OR FINES GO INTO THE GENERAL FUND. 
          OTHERS HAVE DESIGNATED, YOU KNOW, DEPOSIT DEPOSITORIES. 
          BUT IN ANY EVENT, ONCE WE FILL, FIGURE THAT OUT, WE COULD LOOK AT HOW WE MAY BE ABLE TO SHIFT THOSE FUNDING RESOURCES, UM, AS, AS COUNCIL DIRECTS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S HELPFUL. 
          UM, THANK YOU, CHAIR. 
          THOSE ARE ALL MY COMMENTS. 
          WELL, I WANTED TO THANK THE CHAIR, RIGHT? THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I HAD HEARD FROM MY CONSTITUENTS AND, UH, THEY, THEY MENTIONED LIKE, NO ONE'S GONNA TALK ABOUT IT. 
          NO ONE CARESS. 
          BUT I, I WANTED TO THANK THE CHAIR FOR GENDERIZING THIS ITEM. 
          AND THIS IS, UM, WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT AND, YOU KNOW, LETTING FOLKS KNOW THAT, UM, WE ARE ASKING QUESTIONS AND WE ARE LOOKING TOWARDS SOLUTIONS. 
          SO, THANK YOU, CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN. 
          COUNCILMAN COURAGE. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          A COUPLE OF MY QUESTIONS MAY BE A LITTLE OFF FROM WHAT SOME OF THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE BEEN ASKING ABOUT, AND I UNDERSTAND THEIR DISTRICTS ARE MUCH MORE DIRECTLY, UH, IMPACTED BY THESE. 
          BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR MANY YEARS, UH, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CAR THEFT. 
          WE'VE HAD CHOP SHOPS THAT HAVE, UH, DISASSEMBLED CARS, AND I PRESUME MAY HAVE DONE SOME BUSINESS WITH SOME OF THESE USED AUTO PARTS PLACES. 
          UH, AND THEN MORE RECENTLY WE'VE HAD A TERRIBLE RASH OF CATALY CONVERTERS BEING STOLEN. 
          WHAT HAVE WE TAKEN AS A CITY TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THESE AREN'T GETTING RECYCLED AT THESE RECYCLING FACILITIES HERE? SURE. 
          UH, SO MAINLY THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT RESPONSIBILITY AND D P D P S, UH, WE DO GET SOME OF THOSE CALLS AND THEY WANT US TO GO WITH THEM TO DO A KIND OF A FULL INSPECTION. 
          UM, EVERY, EVERY ITEM THEY HAVE, THEY NEED TO LOG IT IN WHEN THEY GET IT, AND THEY NEED TO LOG IT OUT WHEN THEY SELL IT. 
          SO, UM, D P S NORMALLY GOES RANDOMLY AND THEY DO CHECK THE LOGS AND THEY GO PHYSICALLY ON THEIR LOT TO CHECK, YOU KNOW, THINGS, I GUESS, ESPECIALLY CATALYST. 
          THEY DO HAVE, UM, SERIAL NUMBER ON IT OR SOMETHING. 
          SO THEY COMPARE THOSE TO MAKE SURE THEY GOT A HUNDRED, THEY SOLD A HUNDRED, THEY DIDN'T SUDDENLY HAVE 200 STOLEN OR WHATEVER. 
          SO, UM, WE, WE DO WORK WITH PD AND, AND D P SS ON THOSE ITEMS, BUT AGAIN, IT'S MAINLY THEIR RESPONSIBILITY. 
          HAVE WE FOUND ANY, UH, ANY CA CASE TO BE CONCERNED? IT MAY BE THERE'S ILLEGAL ACTIVITY GOING ON WITH PARTS LIKE THAT, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. 
          NOT, NOT RECENTLY. 
          I WANNA SAY JUST BEFORE COVID, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THERE WAS ONE LOCATION THAT HAD A LOT OF THOSE. 
          AND, UH, AGAIN, DP, UH, D P S AND, AND PD GOT INVOLVED AND THEY, UH, ARRESTED THE OPERATOR AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO THEY TOOK THEIR APPROPRIATE LEGAL ACTION. 
          HOW OFTEN, AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, DOES S A P D GO OUT AND INSPECT FOR THESE KINDS OF ACTIVITIES? S A S A P D WILL INSPECT IF THEY'RE REQUESTED TO, BUT D D P S WILL GO OUT AND DO RANDOM INSPECTIONS, D P S, SO I, I DUNNO WHAT THEIR FREQUENCY, I DON'T THINK IT'S EXACTLY SET TO BE DONE EVERY SINGLE MONTH OR EVERY QUARTER. 
          IT'S, IT'S, I GUESS BASICALLY MAYBE BASED ON TIPS OR ON SOME INFORMATION THEY GET. 
          I'M NOT SURE. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AWESOME. 
          THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. 
          COURAGE. 
          UM, AND SO, YEAH, IN, IN CLOSING, I, I DEFINITELY, THAT LACK OF ACCOUNTABILITY FOR REPEAT OFFENDERS IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, WE SHOULD PROBABLY FOCUS ON AS WELL. 
          UM, AND THEN I LOVE THE IDEA OF GETTING THAT, UM, I GUESS WE CAN CALL IT A MULTI-SECTOR TASK FORCE WITHIN THE CITY, RIGHT? WITH SOLID WASTE AND CODE. 
          SO, THANK YOU COUNCILWOMAN. 
          UM, METRO HEALTH, IT'S, IT, IT'S CRITICAL THAT THESE, UM, ALL OF THE ENTITIES IN SUSTAINABILITY, I THINK WAS A FOURTH ONE, UM, THAT WE KIND OF ALL, ALL COME TOGETHER AND, AND DO THAT, UM, COUNCILMAN'S, RIGHT? AND SO, UH, WE HAVE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE LIKE, Y'ALL NEVER DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE THESE PEOPLE. 
          THEY ALWAYS SAY THAT, RIGHT? . 
          AND SO I'M LIKE, NO, WE, WE DO. 
          AND THERE'S 
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ACTUALLY A PROACTIVE TEAM THAT GOES OUT THERE, SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO ATTEND THIS. 
          SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. 
          WE APPRECIATE YOUR WORK, UH, AND IT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS, AND IT'LL CONTINUE. 
          SO THANK YOU, AMIN. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS A BRIEFING ON POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE FISCAL YEAR, UM, ANNUAL ACTION PLAN BUDGET FOR THE CITY'S FOR US DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT AND TIME ONE GRANT PROGRAMS. AND SO, UM, ONE OF THE VERONICAS IS PRESENTING, RIGHT? I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA GUESS THAT ONE OF THE VERONICAS IS, GOT IT. 
          SHE JUST SAID, RIGHT. 
          VERONICA . 
          HELLO. 
          GOOD MORNING, UM, CHAIR, MADAM CHAIR AND COUNCIL. 
          I'M VERONICA GONZALEZ, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR WITH NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOUSING SERVICES DEPARTMENT. 
          WE'RE HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT THE FISCAL YEAR 2024 HUD ACTION, PLAN AND BUDGET. 
          THESE ANNUAL HUD GRANTS OFFER OUR COMMUNITIES A VARIETY OF BENEFITS TO EMPOWER LOW-INCOME FAMILIES TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE. 
          IN ADDITION TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AND HOUSING REHAB, THE GRANTS ALSO SUPPORT COMPASSIONATE STAFF WHO CARRY OUT THESE HOUSING STABILITY SERVICES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. 
          THIS INCLUDES RENTAL ASSISTANCE TO HELP RENTERS AND LANDLORDS MAKE ENDS MEET AND DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE TO STRENGTHEN HOME OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES FOR LOW-INCOME FAMILIES. 
          GRANTS ALSO FUND SUPPORT WORKERS WHO ASSIST FAMILIES WHO NEED HELP RECTIFYING CODE ENFORCEMENT VIOLATIONS, AS WELL AS FAIR HOUSING COUNSELORS TO FURTHER TENANT PROTECTIONS AND FAIR HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES. 
          PRIOR TO UTILIZING THESE FUNDS. 
          IT IS NHS D'S RESPONSIBILITY TO DEVELOP THE ANNUAL ACTION PLAN AND BUDGET. 
          THE GOALS ARE BASED ON ADOPTED HOUSING POLICY FRAMEWORK, THE HOMELESS STRATEGIC PLAN, AND ALIGNED WITH THE CITY'S 10 YEAR STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. 
          BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO OUR GRANTS ADMINISTRATOR, UH, CHRIS LAZARO FOR TODAY'S PRESENTATION, WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK P C D C CHAIR AND COUNCIL FOR CHAMPIONING THE SHIP TO HELP IMPROVE THE LIVES OF OUR MOST VULNERABLE SAN ANTONIO RESIDENTS. 
          I'LL HAND IT OVER TO CHRIS LAZARO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD MORNING, MADAM CHAIR AND, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          UM, AS VERONICA MENTIONED, THIS IS OUR THIRD YEAR OF OUR, UH, FIVE YEAR CONSOLIDATED PLAN THAT WE'RE, UM, PRESENTING A DRAFT BUDGET ON. 
          AND LET'S SEE HERE. 
          SO FOR THIS ANNUAL PROCESS, THIS IS WHAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO GO THROUGH EACH YEAR TO, UM, SP DETERMINE HOW WE WILL SPEND OUR HUD FUNDS. 
          AND THESE HAVE TO SUPPORT THE PRIORITIES THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED IN THE 2022 THROUGH 2026 CONSOLIDATED PLAN. 
          THIS PROCESS WAS DONE BACK IN 2021 WITH, UM, A LOT OF PUBLIC FEEDBACK AND WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AT THAT TIME. 
          SO WE HAVE FOUR GRANT PROGRAMS THAT WE FUNDS EACH YEAR FROM HUD. 
          THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT, OR C D B G IS OUR LARGEST OF THOSE, UH, FOUR GRANT PROGRAMS. HOME INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIPS PROGRAM, OR WE JUST SHORTEN IT TO HOME, WHICH IS OUR SECOND LARGEST. 
          AND THEN TWO SPECIAL PURPOSE GRANTS, UM, THAT WE PASS THE FUNDS THROUGH TO DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN SERVICES, OUR, UH, HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES FOR PERSONS WITH AIDS OR HOPWA, AND THE EMERGENCY SOLUTIONS GRANT. 
          AND WE'LL GO THROUGH EACH OF THOSE. 
          SO, AS I MENTIONED, THE FUNDS IN EACH OF THOSE FOUR GRANTS HAVE TO FALL INTO THE CATEGORIES THAT WERE PRIORITIZED BY THE COMMUNITY AND THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          AND THE TOP PRIORITY, UH, IDENTIFIED AT THAT TIME WAS PROVIDING DECENT, SAFE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          SO YOU'LL SEE THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE FUNDS THAT WE PROPOSED, UM, FOR 2024, FALL INTO THAT CATEGORY OF PROVIDING AND PRESERVING AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          THE SECOND PRIORITY IS PROVIDING FOR SPECIAL POPULATIONS, AND THAT REFERS TO YOUTH, OLDER ADULTS, PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES, PEOPLE LIVING WITH H I V AND AIDS, AS WELL AS, UH, UNHOUSED PEOPLE. 
          UH, SIMILAR. 
          UH, PRIORITY THREE IS SPECIFIC TO HOUSING AND SUPPORTIVE SERVICES FOR PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS. 
          AND THEN PRIORITIES FOUR AND FIVE ARE NEIGHBORHOOD, NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION EFFORTS, AS WELL AS PROVIDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          AND FOR OUR PURPOSES, UM, PRIORITY FIVE IS LIMITED TO, UH, FINANCIAL LITERACY, UH, WHICH IS ALSO OPERATED THROUGH DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN SERVICES FOR 2024. 
          UH, WELL, FIRST, ALL OF OUR ANNUAL HUD FUNDS ARE AUTHORIZED BY CONGRESS AND GRANTED THROUGH HUD TO THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO USING A FORMULA. 
          SO THESE ARE NOT FUNDS THAT WE APPLY FOR OR, UM, NEGOTIATE WITH HUD. 
          THESE ARE, UM, GIVEN TO US FOR THIS PURPOSE. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE TO THEN TELL HUD, UM, HOW WE WILL SPEND THE FUNDS AS WELL AS REPORT AT THE END OF EACH YEAR, HOW WE, UM, SPENT THOSE FUNDS AND WHAT WE ACHIEVED WITH THOSE DOLLARS. 
          UM, YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT OUR TOTAL BUDGET FOR 2024 IS 26 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS ACROSS THE FOUR 
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GRANTS. 
          AGAIN, THE LARGEST OF THOSE IS, UH, C D B G AT 13.3 MILLION PLUS, UM, PROGRAM INCOME AND SAVINGS THAT WE ANTICIPATE THROUGHOUT, UH, NEXT YEAR, AS WELL AS ANOTHER 6.3 MILLION IN HOME FUNDS WITH, UH, JUST UNDER 2 MILLION IN PROGRAM INCOME AND SAVINGS AS WELL. 
          AND I DO WANNA ALSO MENTION HERE THAT, UM, WHEN WE ACCOUNT FOR, UM, ALL OF OUR PROGRAM INCOME AND SAVINGS, OUR TOTAL BUDGET IS LESS THAN 1% HIGHER THAN IT WAS FOR 2023. 
          AND WHEN WE LOOK ACTUALLY OVER THE LONG TERM, OUR, UM, TRENDS WITH HUD FUNDING IS THAT THEY'RE FLAT OR EVEN DECREASING. 
          AND JUST AS AN INTERESTING ASIDE, AS WE LOOK BACK THROUGH OUR PREVIOUS AWARDS DATING BACK EVEN 25 YEARS, UM, THESE TOTAL GRANTS ACTUALLY ARE LOWER TODAY THAN THEY WERE BACK IN 1997. 
          SO AGAIN, WE'RE JUST HAVING TO LEARN TO BE ABLE TO DO MORE WITH LESS AND LEVERAGE THESE FUNDS WITH AS MANY OTHER OPPORTUNITIES AS WE CAN. 
          SO ONE OF THE LARGEST AREAS THAT WE FUND WITH OUR GRANT FUNDS IS HOUSING REHABILITATION. 
          SO WE USE HOME AND C D B G FUNDS FOR MAJOR REPAIR AND REHABILITATION OF HOMES FOR LOW INCOME RESIDENTS. 
          FOR 2023, WE AWARDED JUST UNDER 7.9 MILLION. 
          AND THEN THAT WAS COMBINED WITH ANOTHER EIGHT AND A HALF MILLION IN OTHER FUNDS, WHICH PRIMARILY INCLUDED THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BOND, AS WELL AS SOME GENERAL FUND DOLLARS FOR A TOTAL OF 16.4 MILLION. 
          SO FOR 2024, WE ALSO PROPOSED KEEPING THAT FLAT AT THE 7.9 MILLION, AND THAT WOULD AGAIN, BE COMBINED WITH, UH, HOUSING BOND AND GENERAL FUND DOLLARS FOR A TOTAL OF 15.9 MILLION. 
          IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE C D B G FUNDS THAT ALSO SUPPORT STAFF WHO DIRECTLY, UM, IMPLEMENT THESE PROGRAMS WITHIN N H S D. 
          NEXT IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT. 
          THAT'S ALSO ONE OF OUR LARGEST AREAS THAT WE FUND WITH THESE GRANTS. 
          HOME AND C D B G FUNDS TOGETHER ARE COMBINED TO ASSIST IN THE CREATION OF NEW RENTAL. 
          AND FOR 2023, WE, UM, WE AWARDED, UH, NEARLY 7.5 MILLION IN HOME AND C D B G, WHICH WILL RESULT IN ABOUT 550 NEW RENTAL HOMES, AS WELL AS 108 HOMES THAT ARE FOR SALE. 
          IN ADDITION TO THAT 7.5 MILLION, WE ALSO COMBINED THOSE FUNDS WITH MORE THAN $91 MILLION IN CITY BOND FUNDS AND OTHER SOURCES TO CREATE AND PRESERVE MORE THAN 4,800 HOMES IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          AND I'LL GO A BIT MORE INTO THAT ON THE NEXT SLIDE. 
          BUT FOR 2024, WE PROPOSE INCREASING OUR TOTAL ALLOCATION TO 8.4 MILLION, WHICH WILL RESULT IN ABOUT 700 NEW AFFORDABLE HOMES. 
          AND TO ENSURE OUR CONTINUED FOCUS ON CREATING DEEPLY AFFORDABLE UNITS WILL CONTINUE TO USE THE SAME SCORING CRITERIA THAT WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL LAST YEAR, WHICH ENSURES THAT THE PROJECTS WE RECOMMEND FOR FUNDING PROVIDE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES FOR FAMILIES EARNING UP TO 30% OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME, AND PRIMARILY UP TO 60%. 
          AND THAT'S, EVEN THOUGH OUR FEDERAL REGULATIONS DO ALLOW US TO GO UP TO 80, WE CAN, UM, WE'RE PROUD TO SAY THAT WE'VE EVEN BEEN ABLE TO TARGET, UM, MUCH LOWER INCOMES THAN THAT. 
          UM, OVER THIS PAST YEAR, THE R F P, WHICH WOULD, UH, BE RELEASED IN SEPTEMBER, DOES REQUIRE AT LEAST 10% OF ALL THE UNITS, UH, TO SERVE FAMILIES EARNING AT OR BELOW 30% OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME. 
          AND LOOKING ACROSS ALL OF THE FUNDS THAT WERE APPROVED, UH, BY COUNCIL, BOTH IN DECEMBER AND EARLIER THIS MONTH, UM, WE'VE COME CLOSE TO DOUBLING THAT ACTUALLY. 
          UM, AND THEN PROJECTS RECOMMENDED THROUGH THIS R F P PROCESS WILL BE BROUGHT TO COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION IN EITHER DECEMBER OR JANUARY. 
          IN ADDITION TO THE GAP FUNDING, WE ALSO SUPPORT SEVERAL OF OUR LOCAL HOUSING NON OUR LOCAL HOUSING NONPROFITS WITH OPERATIONAL FUNDS, WHICH ARE PAID FOR WITH HOME FUNDS. 
          AND FOR THIS PURPOSE, NO MORE THAN 5% OF OUR HOME FUNDS CAN BE USED FOR THIS. 
          AND SO, AS YOU SEE, SEE HERE, WE DO PROPOSE CONTINUING TO SUPPORT OUR, UM, NONPROFITS WITH 300,000, UM, IN 2024. 
          SO AGAIN, THANKS TO THE VOTERS WHO APPROVED THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BOND, UH, LAST MAY, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO LEVERAGE THIS YEAR'S SEVEN AND A HALF MILLION IN HOME AND C D B G FUNDS WITH 91 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS IN BOND AND OTHER DOLLARS. 
          AND THIS IS RESULTING IN MORE THAN 4,800 HOMES BUILT OR PRESERVED. 
          AND MORE THAN A THIRD OF THESE HOMES ARE CONSIDERED DEEPLY AFFORDABLE. 
          IN ADDITION TO ACTUALLY PROVIDING, UM, HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES THROUGH, UM, CONSTRUCTION AS WELL AS PRESERVATION, WE ALSO DO OFFER OTHER HOUSING SERVICES OR ACTIVITIES. 
          UM, THE FIRST ONE UP HERE IS OUR 
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FIRST TIME HOME BUYER ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. 
          THIS IS COMBINED WITH, UH, GENERAL FUNDS AS WELL, BUT THIS WILL ALLOW US TO HELP ATTEND FAMILIES, UM, BUY THEIR FIRST HOME IN THE COMMUNITY WITH DOWN PAYMENT AND CLOSING COST ASSISTANCE. 
          WE ALSO PROVIDE, UH, FAIR HOUSING SERVICES THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT. 
          AND SO THESE FUNDS HELP, UM, FUND STAFF THAT PROVIDE THESE SERVICES IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          WE ALSO ARE PROPOSING, UH, 600,000 IN C D B G FUNDS FOR OUR HOUSING STABILIZATION SERVICES. 
          THIS INCLUDES, UH, EVICTION PREVENTION, AS WELL AS, UH, LEGAL SERVICES AND WHEN THE NEED ARISES, EMERGENCY RENTAL AND RELOCATION ASSISTANCE. 
          AND THEN THE LAST ON THIS SLIDE IS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION CASE MANAGEMENT. 
          AND THIS WAS A CHANGE LAST YEAR WHERE WE SHIFTED OUR FUNDING OVER FROM DIRECT CODE ENFORCEMENT TO A MORE PROACTIVE CASE MANAGEMENT APPROACH WHERE, UM, OUR STAFF ARE OUT IN THE FIELD PROVIDING DIRECT SERVICES AND PROVIDING, CONNECTING OUR, UM, RESIDENTS TO SERVICES TO HELP THEM BRING THEIR HOMES INTO, UH, COMPLIANCE. 
          IN ADDITION TO ALL OF THE HOUSING ACTIVITIES THAT WE FUND WITH OUR, UH, GRANTS, WE ALSO OPERATE SEVERAL COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES THROUGH OUR MANY PARTNERSHIPS WE HAVE IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO WE HAVE, UH, SUPPORTIVE SERVICES FOR ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS. 
          THIS, UH, 250,000 IN C D B G FUNDS IS, UM, USED THROUGH OUR DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN SERVICES. 
          AND THOSE, UH, FUNDS ARE THEN GRANTED OUT, UM, THROUGH A, A COMPETITIVE R F P PROCESS. 
          SO THAT SUPPORTS, UM, AGENCIES SUCH AS BEXAR COUNTY FAMILY JUSTICE CENTER, HAVEN FOR HOPE, AND SAM MINISTRIES. 
          NEXT. 
          WE ALSO, UM, PROVIDE FUNDING TO PARKS AND RECREATION FOR THEIR SUMMER YOUTH AND EXTENDED HOURS PROGRAMS. SO THIS ALLOWS, UH, PARKS AND REC TO OFFER, UM, MORE SERVICES FOR YOUNG PEOPLE. 
          AND, UM, LONGER HOURS THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER AT MANY OF OUR COMMUNITY CENTERS, UM, PRIMARILY WITH INSIDE, UH, INSIDE LOOP FOUR 10. 
          AND THEN LAST ON THIS SLIDE IS OUR FINANCIAL EDUCATION PROGRAM. 
          AND AGAIN, THIS IS, UM, DONE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN SERVICES, WHERE THEY PROVIDE A FINANCIAL LITERACY TRAINING TO INDIVIDUALS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND THEN FINALLY, OUR, UM, TWO SMALLER GRANTS ARE HOPWA AND E S G. 
          UM, SO OUR HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES FOR PERSONS WITH AIDS, WE, UM, ARE EXPECTING THREE, JUST UNDER 3.1 MILLION FOR 2024. 
          AND THIS IS THE ONLY, UH, DEDICATED FUNDING SOURCE SPECIFICALLY FOR PEOPLE LIVING WITH H I V OR AIDS. 
          AND THIS PROVIDES DIRECT HOUSING ASSISTANCE AS WELL AS RELATED SUPPORTIVE SERVICES TO, UH, THE POPULATION. 
          AND THEN FINALLY, OUR EMERGENCY SOLUTIONS GRANT, WHICH IS SPECIFICALLY FOR, UM, PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS OR THOSE THAT ARE IN A IMMEDIATE RISK OF BECOMING HOMELESS. 
          SO THIS ELIGIBLE ACTIVITIES THROUGH THIS PROGRAM INCLUDES STREET OUTREACH, EMERGENCY SHELTER, AS WELL AS HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION AND RAPID REHOUSING. 
          LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR TIMELINE AND OUR OUTREACH. 
          WE'RE CURRENTLY IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR PUBLIC INPUT AND STAKEHOLDER OUTREACH PHASES OF THIS, UH, PROCESS. 
          SO WE'VE HAD, UM, A COUPLE COMMUNITY MEETINGS AS WELL AS A PUBLIC HEARING AS AT THE START OF THE PROCESS. 
          AND, UM, TO DATE, WE'VE MET WITH ALL OF OUR, UH, NONPROFIT HOUSING PARTNERS, AND WE ALSO, UH, BRIEFED THE HOUSING COMMISSION, UM, YESTERDAY. 
          AND THEN FOLLOWING THIS MEETING, WE'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE, UM, TARGETED STAKEHOLDER OUTREACH THROUGHOUT THE MONTH OF JULY WITH DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT, UM, ARE INTERESTED IN WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH OUR FEDERAL FUNDS AND WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE INPUT. 
          AND WE PLAN TO TAKE THIS ITEM TO CITY COUNCIL, UM, THE FIRST MEETING IN AUGUST AS OUR, UH, ANNUAL ACTION PLAN IS DUE TO HUD BY AUGUST 16TH. 
          SO WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. 
          THANK YOU, CHRIS, SO MUCH. 
          UM, AND I, I ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          I HAD LIKE ONE QUESTION YESTERDAY WHEN YOU BRIEFED ME, AND I JUST WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE THAT YOU DID A GREAT JOB, UM, AND I THINK THIS IS YOUR FIRST PRESENTATION TO US. 
          SO GOOD JOB. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND SO YOUR REWARD FOR DOING SUCH A GOOD PRESENTATIONS, I WON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC QUESTIONS TODAY, , SO I'LL START WITH MY COLLEAGUES. 
          I'LL START WITH COUNCILMAN CASTILLO. 
          UH, THANK YOU CHAIR, AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. 
          UH, YESTERDAY WAS A VERY HOUSING HEAVY MEETING FOR OUR TEAM. 
          WE, UM, WERE BRIEFED BY YOU ALL, AND THEN WE HAD A MEETING WITH COPS METRO AND THE MAYOR TO DISCUSS, UM, THE CASTANO HOMES, RIGHT? AND, UH, MS. DAVILA WHO, UH, IS WITH COPS METRO AND A PALM HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, MEMBER, UH, SHE ASKED, SHE'S LIKE, THERE'S THE ONGOING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THESE DOLLARS. 
          HOW CAN THEY BE USED TO POTENTIALLY SUPPORT A PLAN, 
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UM, FOR, UH, OPPORTUNITY HOME, PARTICULARLY THE GAO HOMES. 
          UH, AND I MENTIONED RIGHT, THAT THERE ARE OTHER DIFFERENT LEVERS THAT WE CAN LOOK INTO TO SUPPORT THE PLAN, UH, WHEN OPPORTUNITY HOME SEEKS THAT FUNDING. 
          UM, BUT CAN YOU SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, WHAT WOULD THE RESPONSE TO MISSA BE ABOUT? LIKE, CAN THESE FUNDS BE USED? UH, ARE THERE OTHER RECOMMENDED, UM, PILLARS OF FUNDING TO LOOK AT FOR OPPORTUNITY HOME? SURE. 
          UM, SO A COUPLE OF THINGS. 
          UH, I'LL, FIRST I'LL POINT OUT FOR THE FUNDS THAT WERE APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL, BOTH IN DECEMBER AND, UM, EARLIER THIS MONTH, CLOSE TO A THIRD OF THAT FUNDING WAS, UM, FOUR PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING DEVELOPED BY OPPORTUNITY HOME THAT INCLUDES BOTH NEW UNITS AS WELL AS REHABILITATION. 
          SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE DEFINITELY PARTNERING WITH THEM AS AS MUCH AS WE CAN. 
          AND RELATED TO CASTANO HOME SPECIFICALLY, WE'VE REACHED OUT TO OPPORTUNITY HOME AND ARE WAITING A RESPONSE FROM THEM AS TO HOW WE CAN SPECIFICALLY PARTNER ON THIS. 
          BUT YES, UM, WE CAN USE SOME FUNDING FOR PLANNING PURPOSES AS WELL. 
          UM, OUR C D B G FUNDS COULD POTENTIALLY BE, UM, USED FOR REHABILITATION OF PUBLIC HOUSING THAT IS AN ALLOWABLE USE. 
          AND SO WHEN THE, UM, WHEN WE HAVE FUTURE SOLICITATIONS, BOTH THIS FALL AND IN FUTURE YEARS, UM, OPPORTUNITY AT HOME WOULD CERTAINLY BE, UH, INVITED TO, TO APPLY FOR THOSE FUNDS AS WELL. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND I WAS REALLY PLEASED TO LEARN DURING MY BRIEFING THAT FOR THE HOME REHAB THAT, UM, THEY WOULD BE USED TO SUPPORT FOUR 60% AND BELOW. 
          UH, I, I'M REALLY GRATEFUL FOR THIS COMMITTEE, FOR STICKING TO THE SHIP AND ENSURING THAT WE DON'T STEER AWAY FROM, UH, THE GOAL, UH, AT YESTERDAY'S HOUSING COMMISSION MEETING, OPPORTUNITY HOME SHARE, THAT THEIR WAITING LIST HAS ALMOST DOUBLED, RIGHT? UH, AND IN THE COMMUNITY, WE HAD A CONVERSATION LIKE, COULD THAT BE, UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A QUESTION, IS THE CITY JUST NOT FOLLOWING THOSE GOALS? I SAID, NO, WE ARE. 
          BUT THERE'S, I THINK, DIFFERENT MOVING PIECES, RIGHT? AND, UH, AT THE MEETING WITH COPS METRO, SOMEONE MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, AT THE CASTIANO HOMES, WE HAVE A HIGH REFUGEE, UH, POPULATION, SO FOLKS ARE BEING CONNECTED TO HOUSING THERE, SO THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PIECES, RIGHT? AND THEN WE ARE PRODUCING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, SO PEOPLE ARE MOVING FROM DIFFERENT CITIES BECAUSE OF THAT HOUSING STOCK. 
          UM, SO WE'RE JUST SEEING AN INCREASE. 
          SO I, I JUST WANTED TO COMMEND, UH, N H S D, UH, AND THIS COMMITTEE FOR MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE STICKING TO THOSE PARAMETERS, UH, AND PRODUCING HOUSING WHERE IT'S NEEDED THE MOST. 
          UH, LOOKING AT THE, THE COMPONENT FOR POTENTIAL, UM, SUPPORTING LIKE PARKS, PROJECTS AND PROGRAMMING, UH, I HAVE TO DO A PLUG FOR EXTENDED PARK HOURS AT ROOSEVELT PARK. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, UH, MANY OF THE FAMILIES, UH, I KNOW THIS ISN'T UNIQUE TO DISTRICT FIVE, UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, UM, UTILITIES ARE VERY EXPENSIVE, SO THEY DON'T TURN THE AC ON TILL THE EVENING WHEN EVERYONE'S HOME, OR YOU, THEY'RE USING BOX VANS, RIGHT? AND HAVING ACCESS TO THAT POOL, UM, MEANS A LOT TO OUR COMMUNITIES TO STAY FULL. 
          SO I JUST, I WOULD HOPE THAT WITH THE SUMMER YOUTH AND EXTENDED HOURS PROGRAM THAT ROOSEVELT PARKS CONSIDERED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THOSE ARE ALL MY COMMENTS. 
          THANK YOU, CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN. 
          COUNCILMAN BIRAN? NO, THANK, UH, AND THANK YOU FOR THE BRIEFING AND THE PRESENTATION. 
          I THINK JUST SOME OF MY QUESTIONS, UH, ESPECIALLY REGARDING THE HOUSING FOR, UM, HOPWA, UH, THOSE LIVING WITH AIDS IS, UH, MAKING SURE WE GET THE STATS FOR THE AGES AND OUR SENIORS AND OUR AGING COMMUNITY. 
          BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION AS, UH, PEOPLE AGE WHAT SORT OF NEEDS THEY'RE GOING TO, UM, REQUIRE, UM, AND AMENITIES THEY'RE GONNA REQUIRE. 
          SO THAT, THAT'S IT. 
          I MEAN, I'M, I'M VERY EXCITED. 
          I THINK WE, WE HAVE A GREAT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES. 
          I LOVE THE FINANCIAL EDUCATION PROGRAM, UM, WORKING WITH LEADERS IN MY DISTRICT TO START TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE PRIORITIZE FINANCIALLY. 
          AND I THINK, UM, ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE'RE GONNA NEED TO HAVE THAT I'M NOT SURE IF WE CAN USE WITH THE HUD FUNDING IS ABOUT INSURANCE AND WHAT SORT OF, WHEN WE GET THESE FIRST TIME HOME BUYERS INTO THEIR HOMES, WHAT SORT OF COVERAGE ARE THEY GETTING? AND I KNOW THAT INSUR HOMEOWNER INSURANCE IS GOING UP AND THEY'RE MAKING CHANGES, BUT MAKING SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S, THAT'S A VITAL PART. 
          'CAUSE ONE, ONE WATER LEAK, ONE HAIL DAMAGE FOR YOUR ROOF, THEY, IT CAN REALLY SEND THEM INTO DEBT. 
          SO, UM, YEAH, I, I'M, I THINK I'M GREAT. 
          THIS IS A GREAT PRESENTATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN, COUNCILMAN COURAGE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES, I AGREE. 
          IT WAS A GOOD PRESENTATION. 
          I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, UM, ALONG, UH, WITH COUNCILMAN VIA GRANT ABOUT THE HOPWOOD PROGRAM. 
          UH, I KNOW THAT WE GET PRETTY MUCH A SET AMOUNT OR A SIMILAR AMOUNT OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. 
          UH, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE BEING SERVICED THROUGH THAT PROGRAM AND FOR HOW LONG DO THEY GET SERVICE THROUGH THAT PROGRAM? 
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SURE. 
          FOR THAT, I'LL INVITE PATRICK'S ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR D H S. 
          THANKS, CHRIS. 
          UM, SO FOR SO FAR IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, THE AGENCIES THAT DO RECEIVE THE HOPWA FUNDING, AND THERE'S THREE AGENCIES AND THEY EACH RUN A, A FEW PROGRAMS, UM, ARE SERVING 9 54 CLIENTS, THAT SAYS ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH THE FISCAL YEAR. 
          UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE ON THE PERFORMANCE MEASURES FOR THOSE SPECIFIC AGENCIES. 
          HOW LONG DO THOSE, THOSE RECIPIENTS CONTINUE TO GET, UH, THE GRANTS OR THE, THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE OR WHATEVER? SO, UM, IT CAN VARY BY PROGRAM TYPE A LITTLE BIT, BUT TYPICALLY 12 MONTHS IS THE, UH, TENANT-BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE PERIOD FOR MOST CLIENTS. 
          AND CAN THEY REPEAT FROM YEAR TO YEAR, ANOTHER 12 MONTHS THE NEXT YEAR, ANOTHER 12 MONTHS, THE NEXT YEAR? UM, THEY, THEY COULD, IF THEY CONTINUED TO BE ELIGIBLE AND DEMONSTRATE THE NEEDS, SO THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD BE ASSESSED, UH, BY THE PROGRAM. 
          I'D BE INTERESTED IN KNOWING. 
          SURE. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT THOSE ARE, IF YOU'VE GOT 900 ARE, ARE A HUNDRED OF 'EM REPETITIVE FROM THE YEAR BEFORE AND A YEAR BEFORE OR, OR MORE. 
          SO DEFINITELY, I'D JUST LIKE TO, TO KNOW THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE. 
          HOW MANY ARE WE SERVING IN THE COMMUNITY OVER A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME AS OPPOSED TO IN A YEAR. 
          UH, AND I'M GONNA ASK THE SAME THING ABOUT THE EMERGENCY SERVICE GRANT. 
          UH, WITH HOMELESS PREVENTION. 
          UH, HOW MANY HOMELESS, UH, INDIVIDUALS OR FAMILIES ARE, ARE RECEIVING PART OF THIS PARTICULAR BENEFIT FOR, FOR THE E S G PROGRAM? YEAH. 
          UM, AND YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT PREVENTION SPECIFICALLY OR OVERALL THROUGH THE GRANTS , WELL, THROUGH THIS PARTICULAR FUNDING SOURCE AND THE NONPROFITS WE MAY DEAL WITH TO DO THIS, HOW MANY ARE WE SERVICING? SO LAST FISCAL YEAR, IT WAS, UH, A TOTAL OF ABOUT 3,200. 
          AND THAT NUMBER'S LARGE BECAUSE, UM, ONE OF THE PROGRAMS FUNDED IS THE, UH, FOOD BANK PROGRAM AT THE HAVEN FOR HOPE KITCHEN. 
          SO ALL OF THE CLIENTS ON THE HAVEN FOR HOPE, UH, CAMPUS SIDE, UH, GET THEIR MEALS THROUGH THE FOOD BANK. 
          AND PART OF THAT'S FUNDED THROUGH THIS E S G GRANT. 
          UM, SO THAT'S 3,200 WAS THE NUMBER, UH, LAST YEAR SO FAR WE'RE ABOUT HALF THAT. 
          SO 1800, UH, TOTAL CLIENTS SERVED. 
          1300 OF THOSE ARE AT THE FOOD BANK'S HAVEN FOR HOPE KITCHEN. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, THAT'S GOOD. 
          GOOD INFORMATION. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN COURAGE. 
          AND SO THIS IS JUST A BRIEFING ACTION. 
          SO AGAIN, THANK YOU TO, UM, TO, UM, PATRICK AND VERONICA AND TO CHRIS FOR, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. 
          WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS AN EASY ONE. 
          IT WAS JUST A REVIEW BECAUSE THIS IS OUR LAST COMMITTEE MEETING WITH THIS COMPOSITION, UM, THAT THE MAYOR MAY KEEP US OR HE MAKE CHANGES. 
          UM, BUT I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO REVIEW WHAT WE'VE DONE TOGETHER IN THE LAST TWO YEARS AND JUST REALLY APPRECIATE, UM, THE WORK. 
          I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE THE HARDEST WORKING COUNCIL COMMITTEE, AND I KNOW YOU ALL HAD TO ADD EXTRA, UH, MEETINGS. 
          SO I WANTED TO, TO PUBLICLY THANK YOU ALL. 
          UM, AND YOU ALL ARE SO AWESOME. 
          YOU ALL COME PREPARED WITH QUESTIONS AND YOU ALL GET BRIEFINGS AND, AND READ THE MATERIAL. 
          SO COMING FROM A PROFESSOR LIKE THIS IS THE A CLASS . 
          UM, BUT I JUST WANTED TO REVIEW TOGETHER WHAT WE HAVE, UM, UH, WITH, UH, WITH YOUR INPUT PROGRAMS THAT WE DEVELOPED AND KIND OF GUIDED THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS OF MANY POLICIES. 
          SO THAT WAS A HOUSING TAX CREDIT POLICIES, UM, THAT INCLUDED THE TIF POLICY THAT INCLUDED AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUND POLICY, UM, TENANTS, UM, RIGHTS CAMPAIGN, UH, U D C AMENDMENT PROCESS, WHICH IS REALLY, REALLY LONG, RIGHT? RED, UM, UH, ENERGY CODE AMENDMENTS, THE SA, PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE AMENDMENTS, CONSTRUCTION NOISE ORDINANCE, THE PROACTIVE APARTMENT INSPECTION PROGRAM, VACANT BUILDING PROGRAM. 
          AND WE CAN ADD NOW HEAT RELATED ILLNESSES TO THAT. 
          SO, UM, AND THOSE ARE THE, THE HIGHLIGHTS. 
          WE, WE DID A LITTLE BIT MORE. 
          AND SO THEY'RE JUST HIGHLIGHTING THEM JUST, UH, AS A REMINDER OF ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU ALL DID. 
          AND I JUST REALLY WANTED TO THANK, UM, OUR, OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND ALSO JAMINE OUR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY. 
          'CAUSE SHE ALWAYS KEEPS US FROM GOING A LITTLE BIT, UH, TOO FAR OFF OR STRAYING OFF TOPIC. 
          AND THEN ALSO ODA AND THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE FOR KEEPING THE MINUTES AND KEEPING TRACK OF THE, UH, RESIDENTS WHO ARE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK AND THE AV FOLKS WHO KNOW THAT I START ON TIME, EXCEPT TODAY I WAS TWO MINUTES LATE. 
          THAT'S MY MERRICK WALSH. 
          AND THEN, UM, THANK YOU ALSO TO OUR REGULARS AND, UH, MICHAEL, SHANNON'S NOT HERE, BUT SHOUT OUT TO MICHAEL SHANNON AND AMIN, UH, WHO, WHO JUST LEFT A WHILE AGO. 
          THE VERONICAS AND IAN AND MELODY, AND BRIDGET AND RUDY AND SHANNON MILLER, AND OF COURSE, ROD. 
          UM, WE LOVE PEPPERING Y'ALL WITH QUESTIONS, AND I THANK Y'ALL, LOVE ACCEPTING THEM. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR ANSWERS. 
          AND THAT WAS IT, IT WAS JUST A QUICK REVIEW. 
          SO, 
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UM, ANY, UH, ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM MY COLLEAGUES? I'LL START WITH COUNCILMAN CUR, PUT IT ON YOUR LINKEDIN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES. 
          Y'ALL GET A NAME FOR THIS SEMESTER. 
          COUNCILMAN . 
          UH, I JUST WANNA THANK, UH, YOU CHAIR FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND FOR MAKING SURE THAT WE HAD BOX LUNCHES THAT WAS A PLUS. 
          UM, REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. 
          AND I JUST, I DO THINK I, I REALLY, I THINK I'M GONNA USE THIS FOR MY RESUME TOO. 
          WE DID A LOT OF WORK IN TWO YEARS. 
          I DID NOT REALIZE HOW MUCH UNTIL RIGHT NOW. 
          AND THEN I'M LIKE, OH YEAH, THAT, SO THANK YOU FOR THIS THANK YOU STAFF FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK. 
          UM, THANK YOU CO COUNCIL COLLEAGUES, AND I KNOW WE'VE HAD KIND OF CHANGEUPS ON THIS COMMITTEE, BUT I THINK WE DID A, AN EXCELLENT JOB AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WHATEVER COMMITTEE I SERVE ON, UM, NEXT TERM, UH, DOING, DOING AS WELL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL ME, COUNCIL ME CASTILLO. 
          YES. 
          UH, THANK YOU CHAIR TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM. 
          I ALWAYS LET MY TEAM KNOW THAT P C D C, NO SHADE TO ANY OF THE OTHER CHAIRS, BUT THAT THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE BECAUSE I ALWAYS WALK AWAY FEELING SO ACCOMPLISHED, RIGHT? WHETHER IT'S A, A BRIEFING OR ACTION TAKEN. 
          UH, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE WE'RE, UM, CONTINUING TO DO THE WORK AND IT'S JUST BEEN REALLY EXCITING. 
          EVERYTHING LISTED IS, UH, IMPACTING THE LIVES OF RESIDENTS ALL THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AND TO CITY STAFF AS WELL FOR, YOU KNOW, IMPLEMENTING THAT WORK. 
          WE'RE REALLY GRATEFUL FOR YOU ALL. 
          UH, AND I'M REALLY HOPEFUL THAT WE ALL GET TO, YOU KNOW, STAY ON THIS COMMITTEE, . 
          YEAH, I KNOW. 
          CROSS YOUR, IF YOU'RE LISTENING, MAYOR . 
          UM, BUT, UH, THOSE ARE ALL MY COMMENTS. 
          THANK YOU, CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. 
          SO, YEAH, SO 90 AGENDA ITEMS OVER 22 COMMITTEE MEETINGS. 
          SO, UM, SO YEAH, SO WE LITERALLY ONLY TOOK LIKE, UH, PROBABLY THE SUMMER, UM, LIKE ONE MONTH OFF IN THE SUMMER. 
          UM, AND THEN THE BIGGEST SHOUT OUT GOES TO, UH, LORI AND ROGER. 
          AND SO, UH, ROGER, UH, STAFFS LORI. 
          SO THANK YOU ROGER, FOR ALWAYS BEING HERE. 
          AND, UM, LORI HAD TO GO TO A BUDGET MEETING, SOMETHING ABOUT IT BEING IMPORTANT OR SOMETHING. 
          SO, UM, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. 
          AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR MEETING FOR TODAY. 
          WE'RE ADJOURNED AT 1149. 
          THANK YOU.
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