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WELCOME TO THE JUNE, UH, AUGUST 9TH, 2023.
REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
WE ALREADY HAD INFORMATION ABOUT SPANISH LANGUAGE INTERPRETATION SERVICES.
CAN STAFF PLEASE CONDUCT ROLL CALL? COMMISSIONER FAULKNER? HERE.
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WE WILL CONSIDER, UM, BOTH THE CONSENT AGENDA AND ITEMS TO BE HEARD INDIVIDUALLY.ALL ITEMS THAT ARE ELIGIBLE FOR CONSENT WILL BE, UH, DISCUSSED AND, AND MADE WITH ONE MOTION, AND THEN WE'LL HEAR THE INDIVIDUAL ITEMS. UH, ALL ITEMS ARE ELIGIBLE FOR CONSENT EXCEPT FOR ITEM 19, WHICH IS POSTPONED 2021 AND 23, WHICH WILL BE HEARD INDIVIDUALLY.
UH, BEFORE WE DISCUSS THAT, I KNOW THERE IS A VOICEMAIL ON NUMBER 15 AND THEN TODAY, UH, JUST, UH, BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF VOICEMAILS AND PEOPLE WILL BE HEARD, THE TIME LIMIT WILL BE TWO MINUTES.
I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO CASE TWO THREE DASH 1 1 8 0 20.
I RECENTLY PURCHASED A HOUSE AT 2 23 YELLOWSTONE.
RIGHT NOW, IT CURRENTLY SAYS IT BELONGS TO TRINI OROZCO, BUT IF YOU LOOK ON RECORD OF DEED, UH, I AM CURRENTLY THE OWNER AS DANIEL INGER, I AM CALLING IN OPPOSITION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION REQUEST TO TURN N C B 6 3 0 6 YELLOWSTONE INTO A SUBDIVISION OF FOUR OR FIVE OR SIX CONDOMINIUMS. AND HERE ARE SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT I CURRENTLY HAVE.
ONE IS THE NORTH SIDE OF YELLOWSTONE STREET IS CURRENTLY DESIGNATED AS A HISTORIC LOCATION, AND THE CONDOMINIUMS WILL TAKE AWAY FROM THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION OF ALL THE HOMES ON THAT SIDE OF THE STREET.
UM, EVERYONE THAT IS HISTORIC ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE STREET MUST FOLLOW THE GUIDELINES FOR THE H D R C, UM, WHICH WILL CREATE ANOTHER PROBLEM FOR WHAT THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF THE STREET.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE THE YURI EDMUND MILL, WHICH IS AT THE CORNER OF YELLOWSTONE AND MISSION ROAD, WHICH IS UNDER THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY, WHICH ONCE AGAIN, BASED ON THE HISTORICNESS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, CONDOMINIUMS WILL TAKE AWAY FROM THE HISTORICNESS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, ON WHAT EVERYONE IS TRYING TO PRESERVE HERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE NEXT THING THAT IS A MAJOR PROBLEM IS IF YOU LOOK AT ST.
JOSEPH'S ON THE CORNER OF MITCHELL AND MISSION ROAD, UM, THE CITY WENT IN THERE AND ALLOWED THEM TO BUILD THE APARTMENTS.
UH, THERE'S NO INFRASTRUCTURE AS FAR AS ANY ADDITION TO ANY OF THE STREETS FOR PARKING.
SO NOW ALL THE RESIDENTS BEHIND ST.
JOSEPH'S ARE DEALING WITH NUMEROUS CARS, PARKING ON THEIR STREETS, WHERE THEY CAN'T GET IN AND OUT OF THEIR DRIVEWAYS.
I DO HAVE PICTURES TO PROVIDE IF YOU NEED BEST'S TIME.
CAN YOU JUST CONFIRM THAT THAT PLATT, UH, MEETS ALL OF THE STATE REQUIREMENTS? YES, IT CURRENTLY DOES.
UH, RELATED TO THE CONSENT AGENDA, DO ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR WISH TO PULL ANY ITEMS FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA? MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA BY VICE CHAIR PECK.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA.
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TO ITEM NUMBER 21, PLEASE.ITEM NUMBER 21 IS A REQUEST BY BROWN AND MCDONALD FOR APPROVAL FOR A RESOLUTION AMENDING THE SA TOMORROW PORT SAN ANTONIO AREA REGIONAL CENTER PLAN FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO REGIONAL COMMERCIAL, GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 6,500 BLOCK OF OLD PARASOL ROAD.
FIVE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, TWO OPPOSED,
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AND THERE IS NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET AND THEY'RE REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE TO SEPTEMBER 27TH.THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE.
ANY DISCUSSION OR APPEAR TO MAKE A MOTION APPROVE THE APPLICANT REQUEST TO EXTEND TO SEPTEMBER 27TH.
SECOND, UH, MOTION TO CONTINUE THE ITEM TO THE SEPTEMBER 27TH PLANNING COMMISSION.
MEETING BY, UH, COMMISSIONER ZUKI.
CHAIR PECK OR CHAIR PROPHET? YES.
MOTION PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE.
UH, COMMISSIONER ORIAN IS, UH, RECUSING HIMSELF.
SO IT'S, UH, 2 0 7 AND COMMISSIONER ORIAN HAS LEFT THE MEETING.
CAN WE PLEASE HAVE STAFF PRESENTATION ITEM 20.
ELIZABETH STEWART PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER 20 IS A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE SA TOMORROW SOUTHEAST COMMUNITY AREA REGIONAL CENTER PLAN FROM URBAN LOAD DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, LOCATED AT 3 2 7 CHICKERING AVENUE.
THERE WERE 33 NOTICES SENT OUT.
SEVEN RECEIVED IN FAVOR FOR AN OPPOSITION.
PASADENA HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT AND FIVE RECEIVED IN FAVOR.
OUTSIDE 200 FEET, THE APPLICANT SEEKS A PLAN AMENDMENT TO MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO REZONED TO I DZ TWO MEDIUM, SORRY.
MEDIUM INTENSITY INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR 30 DWELLING UNITS.
THIS IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE SA.
TOMORROW SOUTHEAST COMMUNITY AREAS PLAN TO PLAN'S OBJECTIVE TO MAINTAIN RESIDENTIAL DENSITIES THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH HISTORIC PR PATTERNS AND PRESERVED ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS.
THE CURRENT LAND USE CLASSIFICATION IS URBAN LOAD DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES IN THE AREA.
THE PROPOSED MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IS NOT A COMPATIBLE LAND USE TOBUT, THE ESTABLISHED R SIX BASED ZONING DISTRICT TO THE SOUTHEAST AND WEST.
THE PROPERTY IS NOT IN PROXIMITY TO ANY LARGE CORRIDORS AND INTRODUCING HIGHER INTENSITY LAND USE COULD NEV NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THE HIGHEST DENSITY THAT CAN BE FOUND IN THE AREA ARE DEVELOPMENTS THAT WERE BUILT BEFORE THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT ADMINISTERED, ADMINISTERED A LARGE AREA REZONING IN 2009 TO DESIGNATE THE AREA SINGLE FAMILY AND ARE BETWEEN SIX AND 12 UNITS.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, IF YOU COULD PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.
ALVIN PETERS, 1 0 1 6 STATE HIGHWAY 46 EAST, BERNIE, TEXAS 7 8 0 0 6.
RIGHT HERE? YEAH, THERE YOU GO.
AFTERNOON PLANNING COMMISSION.
IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.
I DON'T KNOW WHY I HAVEN'T BEEN HERE IN PROBABLY FIVE YEARS.
UM, QUICKLY AS, AS DE AS DESCRIBED BY ELIZABETH 3, 2, 7 CHICKERING.
I AM THE REPRESENTATIVE, ALSO THE ARCHITECT FOR THE OWNER.
I DO HAVE THE OWNER HERE, CHRISTIAN HERNANDEZ, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THAT I CAN ANSWER, I MEAN, HE'S A, CERTAINLY ABLE TO AND WILLING TO, UM, YEAH.
CURRENT LAND USE URBAN LOW DENSITY.
WE'D, WE'D LOVE TO GET A PROPOSED LAND USE CATEGORY OF MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
UM, I DO HAVE A COUPLE EXHIBITS AND IF SOMEONE WANTS A HARD COPY, I GOT A BUNCH OF HARD COPIES, LET ME KNOW.
IMAGE ONE, UH, EXHIBIT ONE IS A SATELLITE.
I THINK THEY SHOWED THAT EARLIER.
WHAT, UH, GOD, IT'S PROBABLY, IT'S, IT'S THIS ONE RIGHT HERE.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S 50,000 SQUARE FEET.
UM, AND, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'LL NOTICE FIRST OFF, UH, SURROUNDED BY SMALLER LOTS, UM, TO THE EAST, TO THE WEST, IMMEDIATELY, UH, THE BOTTOM, UH, PORTION.
NOW I, I'M ASSUMING THAT'S, DO I GO EAST, WEST AND, UH, NORTH, SOUTH? UH, SCREWED UP.
WELL, AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THE PLAN, ON, ON, ON, ON
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THE PROJECTOR TO THE BOTTOM, SMALL LOTS TO THE LEFT AND TO THE RIGHT.A LOT SMALLER, LOTS AT THE END OF THE BLOCK.
I MEAN, AND I DO HAVE ANOTHER EXHIBIT AND I'LL SHOW YOU THAT'S A LITTLE BIT CLEARER.
DO, DO YOU HAVE THIS EXHIBIT? NO, THAT ONE DIDN'T COME OUT.
I DO HAVE A U S B IF THAT HELPS.
IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE LOOK AT THIS, UH, TALK ALL WAY DOWN.
SO MY, WE DIDN'T MAKE IT, UH, COULD I PASS OUT, UM, THE HARD COPIES TO FOLKS? IS THAT OKAY? YOU CAN PUT IT ON, THERE'S, THERE'S A PROJECTOR.
YES, I'VE TAKE MY COPY BECAUSE I HAVE IT.
I DON'T, MAYBE IT DIDN'T MAKE IT TO THE PRINTER.
THIS, SO THIS WILL BE THE SAME SATELLITE VIEW OF THE SITE, BUT WITHOUT, UM, AND ZOOM OUT A LITTLE BIT.
WITHOUT ALL THE TREES, ET CETERA.
SO YOU LOOK AT THAT SITE, I MEAN, THAT SITE'S MASSIVE 50,000 SQUARE FEET.
WE'RE PROBABLY, UH, 70, UH, FOOT ACROSS A COUPLE HUNDRED FEET DEEP.
AND, UM, I MEAN, I WOULDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THIS.
I, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, WHAT WAS DONE WITH IT BACK IN THE DAY? UM, THESE TYPE OF LOTS, UH, AFTER WORLD WAR II, THE SITE WAS, UH, PLATTED DEVELOPED, AND, AND A LOT OF THE GUYS THAT CAME BACK, UH, THEY HAD TO FEED THEIR FAMILY.
SO THESE TYPE OF LOTS WERE, UH, USED FOR FARMING, UH, FOR KEEPING HORSES, ET CETERA, CHICKENS.
AND IT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT TOO MANY PEOPLE DO.
NOW THESE DAYS, THESE HEART, THESE LOTS, THESE TYPE OF LOTS ARE HARD TO DEVELOP NOWADAYS.
PEOPLE JUST DON'T LIVE THAT LIFESTYLE.
UM, AND, AND SO CONSEQUENTLY WHAT YOU WILL SEE WHEN YOU DRIVE THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE LOT TO THE LEFT, THE LOT TO THE IMMEDIATE RIGHT OF IT, YOU KNOW, YOU MOW TO A CERTAIN POINT AND IT'S ALL LEFT.
THE, THE, THE GRASS IS FOUR OR FIVE FEET TALL OR THREE FEET, WHATEVER IT IS, YOU DON'T DO ANYTHING.
YOU GET TO A CERTAIN AGE, YOU GET TIRED, IT'S HARD TO MOW.
UM, AND IF THE KIDS DON'T LIVE WITH THE PARENTS, AND, AND, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE WHEN YOU DRIVE AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IT'S NOT JUST ON THIS BLOCK, IT'S ON SOME OTHER BLOCKS AS YOU ZOOM OUT AND LOOK AROUND.
SO, YOU KNOW, MY OWNERS DIDN'T DILEMMA IS HE PURCHASED A LOT FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
THAT'S WHAT THE MARKET VALUE IS.
YOU KNOW, THE, THE LOTS, UH, UH, I GUESS AT THE INTERSECTION OF AMANDA AND, UH, CHICKERING, IF THOSE WERE TO SELL FOR SALE AS, AS UNIMPROVED LOTS, MAYBE THEY GO FOR 50, 40 TO 50 LOT EASIER FOR A FAMILY WITH THE DEMOGRAPHICS THAT LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD TO AFFORD AND BUILD A HOUSE ON IF IT IS VACANT.
SO LET'S JUST, LET'S JUST THINK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT.
I'M, I'M GONNA HOP TO MY, UH, I THINK THOSE ARE, YEAH, SO DURING THIS PROJECT, WE MET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, UM, GOSH DANG IT, I'M LOOKING FOR THE NAME.
UM, PASADENA HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEMBERS.
SO WE WENT WITH CHRIS V VIA FIRST ON SITE WITH THE OWNER AND, UH, MAYBE A COUPLE NEIGHBORS.
AND WE, WE TALKED ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT, AND WE IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWED UP WITH, UH, THREE MEETINGS, UH, ON SATURDAYS, ALWAYS AT 10 O'CLOCK.
AND WE INVITED, UH, ALL THE NEIGHBORS, UM, TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION'S HOMES, HIS HOME.
WE'D HAVE THE, UH, MEETINGS THERE AND WE'D GO THROUGH A GRAPHIC PRESENTATION, A QUESTION AND AN ANSWER SESSION AND, AND TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO AND ASK ABOUT OBJECTIONS, ASK, UH, WHAT TYPE OF PROJECT THEY WANT, YOU KNOW, THAT SORT OF QUESTION.
SO WE WENT THROUGH THAT FOR SEVERAL WEEKS.
AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, I THINK, AND I'VE INCLUDED IN THIS PRESENTATION, THE SIDE DOCUMENTS.
AND SO WE GOT EIGHT DOCUMENTS, EIGHT INDIVIDUALS, AND HOPEFULLY YOU GOT THAT, UH, THAT, THAT SAID, YES, THEY WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS TYPE OF PROJECT.
UH, FOUR INDIVIDUALS, UM, DID NOT WANNA SEE THIS TYPE OF PROJECT HERE.
AND THEN, UH, TWO, TWO FORMS WERE
ONE WAS NOT, UH, THERE WAS NOT NOTHING, JUST A SIGNATURE.
AND THE OTHER ONE, THE OTHER FORM THEY SAID YES ON ONE COLUMN AND ON THE OTHER THEY SAID, NO, I HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO FOLLOW UP WITH THAT INDIVIDUAL AND ASK 'EM WHAT THEY REALLY MEANT TO DO.
UM, LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, UH, GO TO,
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UH, EXHIBIT.UH, AND I'LL, I'LL GET YOU THERE.
YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, WE WENT THROUGH, UH, THREE DIFFERENT MEETINGS WITH, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, TALKING TO THE OWNERS, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK AND FORTH.
AND, UH, AT THE END OF THE DAY, I, UH, WE ENDED UP WITH, UH, EXHIBIT SHOWN ON 1.1, UH, VERSION FIVE.
SO WHAT IT IS, IS THERE'S A LONG LOT, I FORGET HOW MANY, I CAN'T ZOOM IN AND SEE THAT, AND I CAN'T READ MY COPY.
UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THAT? CAN YOU SEE IT? 500, 500 FEET? UH, WE PLACED THE, UH, UNITS TOWARDS THE BACK OF THE LOT, UM, YOU KNOW, BEING UP ON STREET SIDE, UH, AND WE'RE PROPOSING A THREE STORY STRUCTURE, THREE DIFFERENT LEVELS, 30 UNITS IN TOTAL.
UM, BEING CLOSER TO STREET WOULD BE LOOMING.
AND, UH, THE SITE DOES DROP AWAY.
IT SLOPES AWAY FROM CHICKEN AVENUE AT THE REAR OF THE SITE.
THERE'S AN OLD AND SOME OF THE, UH, GUYS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT, IN THEIR SIXTIES, 70 SEVENTIES TOLD ME, YOU KNOW, UH, 50 YEARS AGO, THAT WAS A RUNNING CREEK.
UH, IT DOESN'T RUN MUCH ANYMORE.
AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE PLACING THE DEVELOPMENT, THE MAJORITY OF THE UNITS AT THE REAR OF THE SITE, UM, AND PLACING THE PARKING WITH TREES, UH, RIGHT THERE NEAR THE FRONT.
AT THE FRONT OF THE PROJECT WERE OFFERED A, A, UH, COMMUNITY PARK TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH THEY, THEY LIKED.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, FOR THEIR USE, UH, IT'D BE ON A, UH, A CARD ACCESS OR KEYPAD ACCESS OF SOME SORT.
AND, UH, PEOPLE ON THAT BLOCK OR, I DON'T KNOW, THE OWNER WILL FIGURE THAT OUT.
I GUESS WHAT IT GETS THERE IF HE GETS THERE.
UM, BUT, UH, WHAT ELSE TO BE, IT WOULD BE A GATED COMMUNITY.
THE OWNER'S COMMITTED TO THAT.
THE OWNER ALSO HAS AS A SEPARATE BUSINESS, UH, DEPARTMENT MANAGEMENT PROJECT, SO IT WOULD BE, HE'S NOT GONNA HAND IT OFF TO ANOTHER GROUP WHO'S GOING TO, UH, YOU KNOW, ACTIVELY MANAGE THE DEVELOPMENT, UM, IF ALLOWED TO MOVE FORWARD.
HE'S CONSIDERING, UH, VOUCHERS FROM, UM, THE, THE VETERANS GROUP IN SAN ANTONIO.
I THINK, UH, FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, TWO VOUCHERS ARE AVAILABLE, NOT A LOT.
UM, HE IS COMMITTED TO NO SECTION EIGHT.
UM, IT WOULD BE A LOWER INCOME DEMOGRAPHIC.
THEY'RE GOING AFTER IT IS ONE TO TWO BEDROOMS. THE MAJORITY OF THE PROJECT, I, I'M NOT SURE IF WE'VE FINALIZED THE MIX.
IT'S STILL, WE'RE LOOKING AT OTHER APARTMENTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE'LL GET CLOSER.
UM, YOU KNOW, THEY THEN, AND I GOT A COUPLE ELEVATIONS, I THINK HOP TO A 5.2.
UM, AND THERE ARE SOME, A COUPLE OF THE PROJECTS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS THAT WERE, YOU KNOW, PURE, PURELY STUCCO, REALLY BLAND.
SO WE'RE COMMITTED TO AT LEAST, UH, THREE FINISHED MATERIALS ON THE OUTSIDE, AT LEAST TO GIVE IT SOME TEXTURE, UM, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT MORE INTEREST.
UM, AND IT'S NOT GONNA COST MUCH MORE TO DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
I THINK ON A 5.2, WHICH WE HAVE UP RIGHT NOW, IT SHOWS, YOU KNOW, A POSSIBLE TWO STORY, UH, SCENARIO, WHICH WOULD BE, I THINK 20 UNITS AND A THREE STORY SCENARIO, WHICH WOULD BE 30 UNITS AT THIS LOCATION BEING RIGHT AT, UH, MEDIUM DENSITY, UM, RESIDENTIAL.
UH, AND I'M, I'LL OPEN MYSELF UP TO ANY QUESTIONS.
I'LL START WITH OUR VIRTUAL COMMISSIONERS.
COMMISSIONER MILAN? NOT AT THE MOMENT.
UM, YEAH, THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION AND, AND ALSO FOR MEETING WITH THE COMMUNITIES AND THE NEIGHBORS TO GET THEIR, UH, INPUT INTO THIS.
UH, MY QUESTION TO THE CITY STAFF, UH, IT'S A LOAD DENSITY RESIDENTIALS, BUT THIS PLAN IS ABOUT I C D, SO IT'S A MEDIUM RESIDENTIAL AND IT'S GONNA BE FENCED, IT'S GONNA BE EIGHT, 10 BUILDINGS.
WE'RE JUST, UH, MOVING THE FACADES IN AND OUT.
SO IT APPEARS LIKE IT'S 10 BUILDINGS, BUT, BUT TWO, IT'S 10 UNITS.
WHAT IF, IF YOU HOP BACK TO, UM, THE ELEVATIONS, IT'S THREE STORIES.
UM, 10 UNITS PER STORY, THREE STORIES, UM, BUT, BUT WE'RE MOVING THE, UM, THE FACADES IN AND OUT, BUT IT'S, IN REALITY, IT'S TWO BEDROOM, IT'S TWO UNITS WITH 15 UNITS PER BUILDING, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
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UNITS PER BUILDING TOTAL.30 HOW MANY DOORS? UH, HOW MANY FRONT DOORS? YES.
AND, AND, AND I HEARD SECTION EIGHT, THIS IS INTENDED FOR THE OWNER.
THE, THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, UH, I GUESS HAS HAD, UH, BAD EXPERIENCE WITH SECTION EIGHT, AND THEY DO NOT WANNA SEE THAT.
AND THE OWNERS HERE VERBALLY, HE MADE A COMMITMENT NOT TO PURSUE THAT TYPE OF PROJECT.
SO I MEAN, HE CAN CONFIRM THAT HERE IF YOU'D LIKE.
SO, UH, A THREE DOORS OR THREE UNITS, IT'S STILL CONSIDERED MEDIUM RESIDENTIAL, CORRECT? HE'S, UM, THE, FOR LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, YOU CAN ONLY GO UP TO MF 18, WHICH IS 18 UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH WOULD ONLY, UH, WHICH WOULD PERMIT 21 UNITS.
SO GOING OVER THAT, HE GOES INTO THE MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL LAND USE CLASSIFICATION.
IT HAS TO DO A LOT WITH THE SQUARE FOOTAGE.
YOU JUST GOTTA REMEMBER WE'RE 50,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT.
I DON'T, UH, HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, JUST A GENERAL COMMENT, I SUPPOSE.
UM, YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, THE MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND WHAT THE EXISTING SURROUNDING LAND USES ARE.
IT'S ALL R SIX ALL, UM, YOU KNOW, LOWER INTENSITY TYPE USES.
UM, THIS TO ME, I MEAN, THE PROJECT LOOKS GREAT, JUST NOT IN THIS LOCATION.
I THINK IT WOULD BE A, UM, STICK OUT, LIKE A SORE THUMB AND IT JUST DOESN'T FIT IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, I DON'T THINK.
SO I WILL BE VOTING IN FAVOR OF STAFF'S DENIAL.
COMMISSIONER SHETLER? NO QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER GARCIA? UH, WOULD I, CONCERN IS YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT ALLOWING SECTION EIGHT COMMISSIONER, IS YOUR MICROPHONE ON? I'M SORRY.
UH, I DON'T THINK SECTION EIGHT, UH, CAN BE CONTROLLED LIKE THAT FROM THE OWNER, BUT I HOPE HE GETS, UH, MORE, MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT HOW TO USE A SECTION EIGHT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THE NEIGHBORS LIKED IT OR NOT.
THAT'S, THAT'S A FEDERAL REGULATION.
SO, UH, THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTION.
COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? NO QUESTION.
UH, JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
I THINK YOU ANSWERED ABOUT, UH, WHAT THE EXISTING, UH, LAND USE WOULD PERMIT MF 18 AND I SEE I D Z ONE AND THE MAXIMUM DENSITY FOR I D Z ONE WOULD BE MF 18.
AND IS THE ID C TWO SPECIFICALLY FOR THE DENSITY, OR IS THERE SOME VARI VARIATIONS? UH, SETBACKS, IT VARIES WITH THE INTENSITY.
SO IDZ ONE, YOU'RE CAPPED AT MF 18, UM, AND NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AND, UH, C ONE USES, IF YOU GO TO IDZ TWO, THAT'S WHEN YOU CAN GO UP TO MF 33, UM, DENSITY.
AND MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN TALK ABOUT.
UM, IT DOES, I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IT NEEDS TO BE I D Z.
I MEAN, WE COULD JUST MAYBE GO TO, UM, MF, WHAT IS IT, 30, I THINK.
BUT AGAIN, THAT WOULD PUSH THIS INTO THE MEDIUM DENSITY YOU CAN ONLY DO.
I, I THINK THE POINT BEING, MY POINT BEING, AND, AND I'M NOT BEING CLEAR HERE, IS THAT WE W WE, WE, WE WOULD SEE NO NEED TO, UM, I GUESS TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE ZERO LOT LINES.
I MEAN, WE GOT PLENTY OF ROOM FOR INCREASED SETBACKS, UM, ET CETERA.
WE, WE, WE SEE NO NEED TO, UH, DEC DECREASE, UH, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE PARKING.
I THINK, UH, INITIALLY, YOU KNOW, IT CAN BE CHANGED IF, IF THAT HELPS THE SITUATION.
YEAH, I THINK I'M JUST TRYING TO LOOK FOR SOLUTIONS.
I MEAN, I AGREE THAT THE PROJECT LOOKS GREAT, UH, ESPECIALLY IF THERE IS A, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPONENT THE CITY DESPERATELY NEEDS.
UM, I KNOW THIS IS A NEW, UH, REGIONAL CENTER PLAN, SO WE'RE SENSITIVE TO MAKING CHANGES TO THE LAND USE IN THIS AREA AS, AS WE JUST WENT, AS THE CITY JUST WENT THROUGH AND ASKED THE NEIGHBORS AND NEIGHBORHOODS WHAT TO CONSIDER.
UM, AND, UH, SO, YOU KNOW, FOR THOSE REASONS, I THINK, UM, I DO SUPPORT IT.
IT'S STAYING WHERE IT'S AT, THAT YOU CAN, YOU HAVE A PLAN THAT WOULD WORK WITH THE 21 UNITS UNDER THE CURRENT LAND USE IF IT GETS THROUGH ZONING.
UM, BUT UM, THOSE ARE JUST MY COMMENTS.
LET ME MAKE, UH, LET ME RESPOND REAL QUICK.
UM, YOU KNOW, KEEP IN MIND THAT MR. FIERCE, THE PRESIDENT OF THE, UH, ASSOCIATION AND SEVERAL OTHER, THE NEIGHBORS PARTICIPATED IN, IN, UH, WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS THE TERM, UM, SA TOMORROW SOUTHEAST COMMUNITY AREA PLANNING, THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT.
AND THEY'RE ON BOARD, RIGHT? I MEAN, I THINK AT THAT TIME, FROM WHAT I GATHER AT MY MEETINGS WITH THEM, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD A BAD EXPERIENCE WITH THE COUPLE DEVELOPMENTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
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AS AN ARCHITECT, I DROVE BY, THEY WERE BLAND.UM, I DON'T, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS CRIME, YOU KNOW, CRIME OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
AND, AND SO WE TRIED TO ADDRESS THAT AND, AND TRIED TO, YOU KNOW, THEY WEREN'T GATED.
THE OWNERS MADE COMMITMENTS TO DO THAT.
THEY, UH, YOU KNOW, WERE GIVEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD A PARK, AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO DIFFERENTIATE THIS PROJECT FROM THE ONES THAT DID HAVE, THAT DID CREATE A BAD EXPERIENCE FOR THE NEIGHBORS.
AND SO THE, YOU KNOW, AFTER
I MEAN, THE MEETINGS ALWAYS TOOK MINIMUM OF AN HOUR, SOMETIMES AN HOUR AND A HALF.
UH, WE GOT THE FEELING, UH, THEY WERE, UH, HAPPY.
AND I THINK, UH, MYSELF AND THE OWNER, WE'LL GO BACK INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND TRY TO SOLICIT, SOLICIT MORE SUPPORT.
THERE WERE TWO NEGATIVE, AND I THINK THEY, WHERE THEY WERE NEGATIVE BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T ATTEND THE MEETING, WE JUST HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO GET BACK TO THEM.
I'M HOPING WE CAN CONVINCE THEM TO CHANGE THEIR VOTE.
SO ALL OF A SUDDEN WE GOT, YOU KNOW, FOUR NEGATIVES.
WE GOT A HUNDRED PERCENT INCREASE IN POSITIVE VOTES.
I MEAN, YOU'RE TALKING TO THE, THE COMMUNITY'S TALKING TO YOU MM-HMM.
UM, AND, AND MAYBE IF WE GET TWO MORE VOTES, UH, MAYBE IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, 120% OF THE NEGATIVE, I DON'T KNOW.
UH, THE, THE, MY COMMENT ABOUT THE NODE, UH, SHOWN IN, UM, SAY TOMORROW, SOUTHEAST COMMUNITY ARABIC PLAN, WHEN'S THAT GONNA HAPPEN? IS IT 20 YEARS FROM NOW? IS IT THESE PEOPLE ARE DYING FOR INVESTMENT NOW? ONE OF THEIR BIGGEST COMPLAINTS WERE VACANT LOTS DOGS RUNNING WILD GRASS, HIGH MOSQUITOES EVERYWHERE.
AND OUR COMMENT TO THEM, DEVELOPMENT CAN HELP WITH THAT, BUT YOU HAVE TO BE WILLING TO TAKE A STRETCH.
AND WE LEFT IT AT THAT, IT WAS THEIR DECISION.
I DO, UH, AGAIN, THE ENGAGEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY IS, IS VERY APPRECIATED.
THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT THE RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPERS DO.
AND, YOU KNOW, AS, AS A BODY, WE'RE NOT ANTI-DEVELOPMENT, BUT AS OUR PURVIEW IS, IS TO ESTABLISH THAT THERE'S GOOD LAND USE PRINCIPLES.
SO IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE DON'T WANT DEVELOPMENT TO OCCUR.
AND IT'S POSSIBLE THROUGH REZONING THAT SOME FORM OF THIS PROJECT COULD TAKE PLACE, OR YOU GO TO CITY COUNCIL IF THIS COMMISSION DECIDES TO ACCEPT A STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.
SO, UH, YOUR PRESENTATION, YOUR PARTICIPATION WITH THE COMMUNITY ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, WE HOPE THAT CONTINUES.
SO AT THIS TIME, IF THERE ARE NOT ANY OTHER FURTHER QUESTIONS, JUST CLARIFICATION.
UH, SO YOU ALREADY HAVE IN PLAN AND APPROVAL 21 UNITS.
BUT, UH, THE CURRENT EXISTING PLAN IS APPROVED FOR IF HE WAS, YES, IF, UM, WITH LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, HE COULD DO UP TO AN MF 18 DENSITY, WHICH WOULD IN TURN EQUAL OUT TO BE 21 UNITS, 21 UNITS.
SO LET ME MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR AND UNDER UNDERSTAND THE COMMENT OVER HERE ABOUT MF 18.
BUT YOU KNOW, IF WE GET DENIED TODAY, YOU KNOW, PLANNING COMMISSION SAYS NO, IT BOLSTERS OUR CA I MEAN, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY WE CAN STILL GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND GET IT APPROVED AS MF 30 MAYBE, BUT, UH, IT'D BE A SLAM DUNK TO GO TO, UH, MF 18.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? UH, IT'S, WELL, THAT MF 18 IS A ZONING COMMISSION ITEM.
WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT THE LAND USE CLASSIFICATION TODAY, WHICH IS, AGAIN, YOUR EXISTING IS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND YOU'RE REQUESTING A MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
SO I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT IS MF, IS 18 UNITS PER ACRE A LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL? CORRECT.
SO, UM, YEAH, AND AGAIN, I, I THINK THE CITY CAN ANSWER ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
UM, SO ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? I WILL, I REQUEST A MOTION, UH, MOTION TO AGREE WITH THE CITY RECOMMENDATIONS AND DENY THE APPLICANT SECOND MOTION TO DENY THE APPLICATION, UH, BY COMMISSIONER ZUKI.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SCHINDLER.
UM, BEFORE, UH, I KNOW COMMISSIONER, WE COME BACK, I THINK, UH, MAYBE WE TAKE A BRIEF TAKE, TAKE A BRIEF RECESS FOR 10 MINUTES.
IT'S, UH, TWO 40 AND WE'RE GOING TO RECONVENE.
UM, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 23.
MR. CHAIR, I THINK THE COMMISSIONER'S ONLINE, WE JUST NEED TO CONFIRM THEM.
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YOU.MY NAME IS ADOLFO GONZALEZ, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER 23 IS LOCATED AT 1002 WEST SATCH AVENUE, REQUESTING TO AMEND THE MIDTOWN NEIGHBORHOODS NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, LAND USE CLASSIFICATION FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO MIXED USE.
THERE WERE 35 NOTICES SENT OUT.
AND BEACON HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ARE OPPOSED TO MIXED USE.
HAVE NO OBJECTIONS TO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.
THE PROPOSED PLAN AMENDMENT FROM LOAD DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO MIXED USE WAS REQUESTED IN ORDER TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO I D Z TWO.
MEDIUM INTENSITY INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE WITH USES PERMITTED IN C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
THE PROPOSED MIXED USE LAND USE IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES HAVE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE ESTABLISHED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DWELLINGS IN THE AREA.
THE PROPOSED MIXED USE WOULD PERMIT A COMBINATION OF COMMERCIAL MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, AND HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS TOO INTENSE FOR THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THEREFORE, STAFF RECOMMENDS NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL LAND USE, WHICH WILL ALLOW NEIGHBORHOOD APPROPRIATE USES.
THIS WILL ALSO ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO REZONE TO NC NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL TO ACCOMMODATE THE FITNESS CENTER AND GYM THAT HAS RECENTLY OCCUPIED THE VACANT BUILDING.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL WITH AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IS THE APPLICANT HERE TO MAKE PRESENTATION? GOOD AFTERNOON.
UH, IF YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
UH, EDGAR ONGO ADDRESS IS 10 0 2, UH, WEST ATCH AVENUE.
UM, SO WHAT WE HAVE IN PLAN OR WHAT WE HAVE IS, UM, A EXISTING BUILDING THAT, UM, I BELIEVE WAS BUILT TO 1983, UM, ROUGHLY 12,000 SQUARE FEET.
AND THAT, UM, BUILDING IS CURRENTLY UNOCCUPIED AND BEING HAS BEEN USED AS A, UH, FITNESS FACILITY.
UM, SO WE HAVE REQUESTED I D Z TWO BASED ON TWO THINGS.
ONE IS ALLOWING IT TO OPERATE IN THE CONDITION THAT IT'S IN AS A, UM, UM, GYMNASIUM FACILITY, AND THEN IN THE FUTURE PLAN TO CHANGE TO MAYBE A STORAGE, SELF STORAGE TYPE, UH, FACILITY.
UH, THE REQUEST FOR I D Z TWO WAS ALSO, THERE'S A PARKING LOT ON THE FAR RIGHT THAT AT SOME POINT THAT, THAT SPACE, UM, YEAH, RIGHT THERE ON THE, IN THIS PHOTO ON THE LEFT, YEAH.
THAT, THAT SPACE WOULD NOT BE NEEDED.
SO THE REQUEST WAS FOR I DZ TWO WAS TO ALLOW A BIT OF, UM, RESIDENTIAL TO, UH, BE USED WITHIN THAT SPACE, JUST 'CAUSE STANDARD SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND STILL GIVE THE FRONT PARKING LOT FOR THE, UH, STORAGE FACILITY.
AND THEN THIS LEFT PARKING LOT TO BE, UM, CONVERTED INTO, UH, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
UH, IF YOU'LL WE'RE GONNA HEAR, UH, SOME VOICEMAILS AND PUBLIC COMMENT AND, UH, YOU'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO MAKE A REBUTTAL SURE.
SO IF WE CAN LISTEN TO THE VOICEMAILS AGAIN, WE'RE GONNA LIMIT THE TIME TO TWO MINUTES FOR VOICEMAILS AND PUBLIC COMMENT.
I LIVE AT 10 44 WEST ATCH AND I'M CALLING TO VOICE MY OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE FOR 10 0 2 WEST ATCH, UM, FROM, FROM RESIDENTIAL TWO, UH, C THREE COMMERCIAL, UH, THREE.
MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 452-4198.
UM, I WOULD PREFER TO SUPPORT SOMETHING FOR THAT PROPERTY THAT IS SOMETHING LIKE NEIGHBORHOOD COM COMMERCIAL, AND I BELIEVE THAT ALLOWS FOR THE CURRENT USE AS A, UM, FITNESS AND HEALTH CLUB AND OTHER THINGS THAT ARE APPROPRIATE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND, UH, THAT WOULD BE PREFERRED BECAUSE FROM WHAT I CAN READ ON THE CHANGE TO C THREE, THAT THERE IS A LOT OF POTENTIAL USES THAT WOULD BE VERY DISRUPTIVE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, SUCH AS A LIQUOR STORE, NIGHTCLUB, UM, AUTO REPAIR AND SO FORTH.
UM, THIS IS ALSO TO CLARIFY IN REFERENCE TO ZONING CASE Z 2 0 2 3 AND THAT'S NUMBER 1 0 7 0 0 1 7 3.
UM, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CALL ME BACK FOR ANY QUESTIONS
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ABOUT MY OPPOSITION TO THE CHANGE TO COMMERCIAL THREE.I LIVE AT 9 2 7 WEST CRAIG PLACE IN SAN ANTONIO, AND I'M CALLING REGARDING THE 10 0 2 WEST VISA, UM, PROJECT OF PROPERTY.
I AM AGAINST THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE.
IT'S INCOMPATIBLE WITH OUR MIDTOWN, UM, PLAN AND WITH THE NEAR NORTH COMMUNITY PLANTS.
UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT THE RESIDENTIAL ZONING THAT IT CURRENTLY HAS.
THERE HAS BEEN PROBLEM WITH THAT PROPERTY BEFORE WHEN IT HASN'T BEEN USED FOR RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES AND ANYTHING ELSE WOULD BE INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WITH THAT BLOCK IN PARTICULAR, UM, I'M OPPOSED THANK MY NUMBER'S 2 1 0 7 1 0 4 9 5 4.
I OWN THE PROPERTY AT 10 16 WEST ATCH.
THERE'S A HEARING FOR 10 0 2 WEST ATCH OR A C TWO, UH, PLANNING COMMITTEE.
I JUST WANNA VOICE MY, MY VOICE.
I'M AGAINST THIS FOR COMMERCIAL.
THIS IS SPEAKING HILL, UH, HISTORIC AREA AND WOULD NOT DO GOOD FOR THE COM FOR THE SUBDIVISION OR FOR MY HOUSE NEXT DOOR.
AGAIN, I'M AGAINST THE COMMERCIAL ZONING THAT IS GOING ON TODAY.
SIMA COLVIN, 8 1 7 WEST MAGNOLIA AVENUE CALLING IN REGARDS TO 1 0 0 2 WEST SATCH.
I HAVE LIVED IN BEACON HILL FOR 17 YEARS AND HAVE SERVED ON THE BOARD AND THE ZONING AND URBAN DESIGN COMMITTEE FOR ABOUT 12 OF THOSE 17 YEARS.
IN 2006, I WAS A CALIFORNIA INVESTOR LOOKING FOR RENTAL PROPERTY IN SAN ANTONIO.
WHEN I SETTLED ON THE SIX UNIT APARTMENT BUILDING IN BEACON HILL, I MADE SURE THAT I KNEW WHAT THE ZONING FOR THAT PROPERTY WAS AND FOR THOSE ON THE REST OF THE BLOCK SO THAT I COULD UNDERSTAND THE CONTEXT OF MY INVESTMENT IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE PROPERTY TO THE OTHER PROPERTIES ON MY STREET.
I ALSO PICKED UP A COPY OF THE MIDTOWN NEIGHBORHOODS PLAN FROM D S D SO THAT I COULD UNDERSTAND MY INVESTMENT IN THE CONTEXT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS A WHOLE.
IT IS INCONCEIVABLE TO ME THAT AN INVESTOR, A PROFESSIONAL LOOKING TO PROFIT FROM THEIR PURCHASE WOULD CLOSE A DEAL WITHOUT HAVING THIS TYPE OF UNDERSTANDING.
IT IS NOT THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S JOB OR THE CITY'S TO OVERLOOK OR MAKE UP FOR THAT LACK OF DUE DILIGENCE.
WHILE THIS PROPERTY HAS OPERATED AS A VARIETY OF THINGS OVER ITS HISTORY AS A CHURCH PROPERTY, IT HAS ENJOYED LENIENCY BOTH LEGALLY AND IN SPIRIT AS IT HAS BEEN A PART OF THE BEACON HILL COMMUNITY FOR MANY DECADES.
HOWEVER, THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY REMOVES THAT LENIENCY AND THE USE OF THE PROPERTY IS LIMITED TO ITS ORIGINAL R SIX DESIGNATION.
IN 2021, BEACON HILL IN COLLABORATION WITH D S D EMBARKED ON A LARGE AREA REZONING PROJECT.
THIS WAS A YEAR LONG COMMUNITY WIDE EFFORT TO GIVE FOLKS A CHANCE TO LOOK AT CURRENT ZONING WITH TWO GOALS IN MIND, TO BRING SOME OF THE RANDOM ZONING CHANGES THAT HAD OCCURRED OVER TIME IN LINE WITH OUR MIDTOWN NEIGHBORHOODS LAND USE PLAN, AND TO PREPARE FOR THE UPCOMING SUB AREA PLAN THAT WE WILL BE WORKING ON STARTING IN THE FALL.
THIS WAS A PURPOSEFUL, THERE WAS A PURPOSEFUL DECISION NOT TO CHANGE THE ZONING.
YES, I HAD CALLED IN REFERENCE, JUST GOT HUNG UP ON.
AND IN REFERENCE TO CASE NUMBER 0 4 6 DEBORAH LOPEZ, VOTE NO, NO ON, ON TURNING THAT BUILDING INTO A SPORTS COMPLEX.
DEBORAH LOPEZ, 9 2 8 WEST SUMMIT TWO TEN FOUR ONE THREE ZERO NINE THREE SEVEN.
I LIVE AT 1 1 4 3 WEST SME PLACE.
I'M CALLING REGARDING CASE NUMBER ENDING WITH 0 4 6.
I'M ABSOLUTELY OPPOSED TO THE ZONING CHANGE.
IT'S AN INAPPROPRIATE CHANGE FOR THE COMMUNITY IN THAT PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD.
MY TELEPHONE NUMBER IS (210) 639-3056.
HELLO, MY NAME IS, UM, FERNANDO GOMEZ.
I AM CALLING REGARDING CASE NUMBER LAST THREE DIGITS OF 0 4 6 PROPERTY LOCATED AT ONE ZERO ZERO TWO.
MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 478-7998.
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UM, THIS IS REGARDING THE PROPERTY OWNER'S REQUEST TO CHANGE LAND USAGE TO MIXED USE AND TO, UM, CHANGE TO FROM AN R SIX TO A I D Z DASH TWO FOR USES IN C TWO.UM, I AM OPPOSED TO THE OWNER'S REQUEST, UM, JUST BECAUSE, UM, WE ARE, YOU KNOW, PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL.
HE'S, UM, REQUESTING THIS CHANGE TO HAPPEN WITHIN A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
UM, THAT IS A LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AREA.
SO, UM, THAT IS, UM, SOMETHING THAT I DO WANT TO EXPRESS.
UM, I AM CURRENTLY NOT HAPPY WITH HIM, UH, GOING AGAINST CODE AND CURRENTLY LEASING IT OUT TO SAN ANTONIO EMPIRE VOLLEYBALL.
UM, WHO KNOWS WHAT HE CAN DO AND WHAT HE CAN BRING TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, BUT WE'VE HAD A BAD EXPERIENCE WITH THAT ADDRESS ALREADY IN THE PAST, UM, WHEN IT WAS OWNED BY THE CHURCH.
UM, PLEASE, UM, MAKE IT KNOWN THAT I'M IN OPPOSITION TO WHAT HE IS REQUESTING AND THAT YOU ALL TAKE OUR, UM, OPINION INTO CONSIDERATION.
UH, WE DO APPRECIATE, UM, WHAT Y'ALL DO AND YOU HAVE A GOOD DAY.
GOOD MORNING, I'M, MY NAME IS GLORIA ESTELLA.
I AM CALLING AGAINST 1 0 0 2 WEST ATCH AND I'M AGAINST THE PROPERTY FOR COMMERCIAL ZONING.
HELLO, I'M CALLING ABOUT 1002 WEST ATCH AVENUE.
MY NAME IS HEATHER HINKY ROSENBLATT.
I AM THE OWNER OF 10 40 WEST MAGNOLIA AVENUE.
MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 867-7857.
UM, I HAVE LI I HAVE LIVED ONE BLOCK FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR 18 YEARS.
OUR STREETS ALREADY HAVE INCREASED TRAFFIC DUE TO THE NEARBY CHURCHES, AND I'M CONCERNED THAT A SPORTS COMPLEX WITHOUT A CONNECTION TO THE CHURCH WOULD CREATE A PARKING NIGHTMARE ON OUR STREETS.
I AM CONFUSED BY THE APPLICANT'S STATED INTENT.
HE SAID HE WAS LEANING TOWARDS MINI STORAGE, BUT QUICKLY LEASED THE PROPERTY TO EMPIRE VOLLEYBALL.
I AM GREATLY DISAPPOINTED IN THE OWNER'S OBVIOUS DISREGARD FOR THE EXISTING ZONING AND LAND USE.
WHILE THE CURRENT OWNER'S INTENT IS ALREADY SUSPECT.
I WORRY WHAT THE NEXT OWNER MIGHT DO WITH MORE INTENT, ZONING AND LAND USE.
IDEALLY, THE PROPERTY WOULD REMAIN LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
PLEASE DENY THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST FOR I D Z TWO MIXED USE.
IT IS NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF BEACON HILL RESIDENTS AND IT IS OPPOSED BY MOST NEAR NEIGHBORS.
HI, MY NAME IS JENNIFER NDO AND I LIVE IN BEACON HILL AT 10 11 WEST MAGNOLIA, DIRECTLY BEHIND THE PROPERTY AT 1002 WEST SATCH.
MY PHONE NUMBER IS TWO TEN FOUR EIGHT EIGHT SIX THREE SEVEN THREE AND I'M CALLING TO REFERENCE CASE 0 4 6.
I'D LIKE TO EXPRESS MY OPPOSITION TO THE REQUESTED ZONING AND USAGE CHANGE AT 1002 WEST.
WE SATCH AS IT COULD NEGATIVELY AFFECT MY FAMILY AND NEIGHBORS.
WE SATCH IS IN A STREET OF RESIDENTIAL HOMES, MANY OVER 100 YEARS OLD AND HISTORIC.
THERE ARE NO OTHER BUSINESSES ON THIS BLOCK, ONLY HOMES AND CHURCHES.
OUR NEIGHBORHOOD OF BEACON HILL HAS SEEN MANY IMPROVEMENTS IN THE PAST FEW YEARS DUE TO ACTIVE PARTICIPATION BY MANY NEIGHBORS WHO HOST EVENTS, CREATE IMPROVEMENTS TO THEIR PROPERTIES, PARTICIPATE IN NEIGHBORHOOD CLEANUP EVENTS, AND FOSTER A SENSE OF COMMUNITY WHERE WE CAN FEEL SAFE.
A MIXED USE PROPERTY IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD OPENS UP THAT PROPERTY TO A WHOLE HOST OF POSSIBILITIES FOR NEGATIVE DEVELOPMENT.
THE PREVIOUS OWNER USED THE PROPERTY IN A MANNER INCONSISTENT WITH ITS ZONING, AND IN THAT TIME THERE WAS A MAJOR EVENT THAT INCLUDED GUNSHOTS ALL NIGHT AND PEOPLE JUMPING INTO OUR YARD TO ESCAPE THE GUNFIRE.
OUR NEIGHBOR HAD A BULLET COME THROUGH HIS ROOF AND DOZENS OF SHELLS LITTERED THE STREET AFTERWARD.
THE ZONING THAT'S BEING REQUESTED WOULD ALLOW THE TYPE OF EVENT VENUE BY THIS OR FUTURE DEVELOPERS THAT WOULD ENCOURAGE THESE SORTS OF INCIDENTS AND MAKE THE THE NEIGHBORHOOD UNSAFE AND UNWELCOMING TO THE PEOPLE WHO ALREADY LIVE HERE.
I ATTENDED THE ZED MEETING WHERE THE PRESENTER MENTIONED THE POSSIBILITY OF BUILDING STORAGE UNITS THERE AND IT WAS DISCUSSED THAT THIS TYPE OF ZONING CHANGE COULD PERMIT STRUCTURES UP TO FOUR STORIES HIGH, WHICH WOULD DWARF THE NEIGHBORING HOMES AND BLOCK SUNLIGHT AND VIEWS.
THIS IS THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF WHAT WE AND THE MANY HUNDREDS OF NEIGHBORS IN BEACON HILL HAVE WORKED FOR IN ORDER TO REVITALIZE THIS IMPORTANT HISTORIC AREA OF SAN ANTONIO.
NOW IT SEEMS THE DEVELOPERS ARE LEASING IT AS A SPORTS CENTER, BUT IF THAT IS THEIR INTENTION, IT WOULD SEEM THEY SHOULD BE REQUESTING NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL ZONING INSTEAD OF THIS INTENSELY INDUSTRIAL ZONING REQUEST.
PLEASE CONSIDER THE HOMEOWNERS WHO HAVE BEEN HERE FOR YEARS AND WOULD BE NEGATIVELY AFFECTED BY THIS ZONING CHANGE AND DENY THIS REQUEST.
I LIVE AT 9 46 WEST MISSILE TOW.
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I'M JUST CALLING ABOUT THE PLAN AMENDMENT AT 1 0 0 2 WEST ATCH.I BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC CAN'T SUPPORT THE CHANGE ALSO WOULDN'T BE CONDUCIVE FOR KIDS PLAYING IN THAT PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I JUST DON'T FEEL THAT IT'S THE RIGHT FIT TO MAKE THAT CHANGE OR ALLOW THEM OR GRANT THEM THAT.
UM, I LIVE CLOSE ENOUGH WHERE I CAN SEE IT FROM MY FRONT DOOR AND I JUST BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD BE A DETRIMENT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IF WE'RE TO ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN.
I LIVE AT ONE ZERO TWO FIVE WEST RESEARCH AVENUE.
MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 724-7304.
I'M CALLING IN REGARD TO THE PROPOSED LAND USE AND ZONING CHANGES.
1 0 0 2 WEST ATCH AVENUE IN BEACON HILL, WHICH IS AGENDA ITEM 23.
FOR OVER 15 YEARS, I HAVE LIVED ON THE SAME BLOCK AS THIS PROPERTY, WHICH WAS PURPOSE BUILT AS A COMMUNITY AND ATHLETIC CENTER BY A NEIGHBORHOOD CHURCH IN THE EIGHTIES.
FOR MOST OF THE TIME I'VE LIVED HERE, IT IS OPERATED AS A FOR-PROFIT ATHLETIC CENTER.
THE FACT THAT THAT WAS AN ILLEGAL USE UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING WAS NOT SOMETHING I WAS AWARE OF UNTIL RECENTLY.
THAT BEING SAID, I DO FIND AN ATHLETIC CENTER TO BE AN APPROPRIATE USE OTHER THAN A RECENT ISOLATED INCIDENT WHEN THE SPACE WAS SUBLET FOR A PARTY THAT GOT DANGEROUSLY VIOLENT.
THE ATHLETIC BUSINESSES HAVE BEEN GOOD NEIGHBORS.
HOWEVER, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT OTHER USES ALLOWABLE UNDER THE ZONING THAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING AS SEE MENTION OF A STORAGE FACILITY.
I DO NOT FIND THAT APPROPRIATE USE IN THIS CASE.
I RECOGNIZE THAT A SITE PLAN WOULD BE REQUIRED AND THAT THE INTENT OF THE OWNER, OWNER MAY BE TO RECONFIGURE THE EXISTING BUILDING.
BUT AS WE KNOW, ZONING IS TIED TO THE LAND, NOT TO THE STRUCTURE.
WOULD THERE BE ANYTHING TO STOP SOMEONE FROM BUILDING A MODERN GLASS AND STEEL PUBLIC STORAGE FACILITY? IMAGINE SEEING THAT OUTSIDE YOUR FRONT DOOR.
WHILE KEEPING IN MIND THAT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A PROPERTY ON THE FRINGES OF A NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT DEEP IN THE MIDDLE OF A QUIET RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY, I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT OTHER USES ARE ALLOWABLE BY STAFF'S RECOMMENDED ZONING BEYOND AN ATHLETIC CENTER OR A STORAGE FACILITY.
AS A SIDE NOTE, I WILL ADMIT I'M SUSPECT OF THE NEW OWNER WHO HAS ALREADY LEASED THE PROPERTY TO AN ATHLETIC BUSINESS DESPITE THE ZONING ISSUE NOT BEING RESOLVED.
AND I'M SUSPECT THAT THEY SOUGHT REZONING TO C TWO.
HELLO, THIS IS MARK SPIELMAN AT 900 WEST WOODLAWN AVENUE, UH, REGARDING THE CASE ON, UH, UH, 10 0 0 2 WEST SATCH.
I THINK THAT, UH, WE'RE MISSING AN OPPORTUNITY TO INCLUDE WHAT WE NEED IS, UH, MORE HOUSING IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
EACH OF THOSE, UH, THE PROPERTY SITS ON LOTS THAT ARE 25 FEET WIDE AND EACH ONE OF THOSE, ACCORDING TO THE STATE, IS ALLOWED TO HAVE A SEPARATE DWELLING UNIT ON THEM.
NOW, IT'S, UH, REASONABLE TO EXPECT THAT THERE COULD BE, YOU KNOW, APARTMENTS OR DUPLEXES ON THAT LOT THAT WOULD, UH, INCREASE THE DENSITY OF, OF HOUSING IN THIS AREA.
AND WE NEED MORE RESIDENTIAL HOUSING.
I THINK IT'S A MISTAKE TO CHANGE IT FROM, UH, YOU KNOW, AN R SIX, UM, TO SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, MORE COMMERCIAL USE.
I THINK WE NEED TO TRY TO KEEP THIS AREA AS INTACT AS POSSIBLE AND, AND, UH, EXPLOIT THE OPPORTUNITY TO INCLUDE MORE RESIDENTIAL, UH, LIVING SPACES IN, IN THIS AREA CLOSE TO DOWNTOWN.
MARY ANN VAN NICH, 1143 WEST ELSMERE PLACE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS.
PHONE TWO TEN SEVEN TWENTY FIVE.
MY NAME IS RALPH GALVAN AND I RESIDE AT 10 28 WEST AGARITA AVENUE.
I SPEAK FOR MYSELF AND MY WIFE AND STRONGLY OPPOSE THE REZONING OF THE PROPERTY AT 10 0 2 WEST ATCH.
A SS ZONING CHANGE IS NOT TO THE BETTERMENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT SIMPLY TO COMMERCIALIZE AND WEAKEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS KNOWN FOR ITS HOUSING.
THE CHANGE OF ZONING WILL BE A DETRIMENT TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
I AM AGAINST IT AND MY WIFE IS AGAINST IT AND MY NEIGHBORS ARE AGAINST IT.
AGAIN, MY NAME IS RALPH GALVAN AT 10 28 WEST AGARITA AVENUE.
STRONGLY OPPOSING THE ZONING CHANGE AT 10 0 2 WEST ATCH.
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THANK YOU AND HAVE A NICE DAY.HELLO, MY NAME IS GRACE ROSE GONZALEZ AND I, UH, LIVE AT 1442 WEST GLENWOOD.
UM, I'M CALLING ABOUT THE, UM, ITEM FOR, UH, 1 0 0 2 ATCH STREET IN BEACON HILL.
AND I AM IN SUPPORT OF, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT, UM, THE ZONING IS RESIDENTIAL AND, AND THAT SHOULD BE, UM, THEY SHOULD BE MINDFUL OF THAT, THE NEW OWNERS.
UM, AS A PAST ZONING COMMISSIONER, I BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA, YOU KNOW, KEEP OUR NEIGHBORHOODS INTACT AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN, ESPECIALLY THE INNER CITY NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND, UM, SO, UM, I'M IN SUPPORT OF, UM, BEACON HILL IN WHAT THEY DESIRE, UH, FOR THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE.
UM, IT'S HARD ENOUGH TO KEEP OUR INNER CITY NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, SAFE AND, UM, TO ENFORCE CODE COMPLIANCE AND TO ENFORCE ANYTHING ELSE.
SO, UM, PLEASE HOLD, UH, FAST WITH WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOODS DESIRE.
HELLO, MY NAME IS SALLY SEKER.
I LIVE AT 6 0 1 WEST LITTLEWOOD AVENUE, SAN ANTONIO SEVEN EIGHT TWO ONE TWO.
MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 416-1723.
I'M CALLING IN REGARD TO 1 0 0 2 WEST ATCH.
I OPPOSE THE ZONING CHANGE OF THIS, UM, PROPERTY BECAUSE THE LAND USE, UM, CHANGE IS TOO INTENSE AND IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE, UH, LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AREA SURROUNDING THE AREA.
UM, WE'VE HAD INCIDENTS THERE BEFORE AND AN INTENSE COMMERCIAL BUSINESS IN CONFLICT WITH THE MIDTOWN NEIGHBORHOODS PLAN AND WOULD ALSO BE CONFLICT WITH THE NEAR NORTH COMMUNITY PLAN.
BUT, UH, THIS CHANGE IS ALSO OPPOSED BY MOST OF THE RESIDENTS LIVING IN THE AREA AND ME AS A MEMBER OF THE BONNA DUD COMMITTEE.
I LIVE AT 10 23 WEST GRAMERCY PLACE IN BEACON HILL AND I'M CALLING CONCERNING, UM, 1002 WEST RESEARCH IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, AND SO THERE'S A HEARING THIS AFTERNOON AT 2:00 PM AND I JUST WANTED TO, UM, VOICE MY OPINION AGAINST THE ZONING CHANGE.
UM, WE JUST MOVED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD LAST FALL AND PART OF THE REASON WE WERE ATTRACTED TO IT WAS IT'S, UM, LOW DENSITY FAMILY SORT OF FOCUSED AND, UM, PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED ENVIRONMENT.
AND THE ZONING CHANGE WOULD OPEN UP THAT AREA OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO, OR THAT SPECIFIC LOT TO, UM, THE KIND OF DEVELOPMENT THAT ISN'T REALLY COMPATIBLE WITH WHAT WE WANT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO BE.
UM, SO YES, JUST WANTED TO VOICE MY DISSENT TO THE CHANGE AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
WE HAVE SOME, UH, CITIZENS THAT HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
UM, WE'LL START WITH CYNTHIA SPIELMAN.
UM, TWO MINUTES AND PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
I LIVE AT 900 WEST WOODLAWN AND I'M PRESIDENT OF THE BEACON HILL AREA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
WE'VE PREPARED A, UM, PRESENTATION.
I'M GONNA TRY AND MOVE THROUGH IT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, ESPECIALLY WITH A SHORTENED TIME.
UM, JUST A COUPLE OF PICTURES.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE PROPERTY LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW, I GUESS I CAN DO ENTER AND THAT'LL DO IT.
OKAY, SO I'LL SHORTEN THE HISTORY, UM, BECAUSE YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD IT USED TO BE OWNED, IT WASN'T BY, UM, GRACE CATHEDRAL CHURCH.
THE PASTOR'S HERE FROM GRACE CATHEDRAL, IT WAS A DIFFERENT CHURCH IN THE AREA.
UM, AT SOME POINT IT WAS REALLY, UH, LEASED TO VARIOUS SECULAR SPORTS ORGANIZATIONS.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THE BUT IN THE SPIRIT AS WELL AS LEGALLY WE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LOOKED THE OTHER WAY.
THE SPACE WAS LEASED FOR A PROMOTED PARTY.
IT SPIRALED OUTTA CONTROL, AS YOU'VE HEARD DESCRIBED.
NOVEMBER 2ND, A CODE OFFICER, UM, ISSUED A VIOLATION AND SOON AFTER IT WAS, UH, SOLD TO A SECULAR BUSINESS.
UM, ON JULY 17TH, THE OWNER, UM, CAME AND, UM, HE DIDN'T COME.
HE PHONED IN, UH, DURING OUR ZONING AND URBAN DESIGN COMMITTEE AND WE DIDN'T, HE DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, HAVE ANY MUCH INFORMATION OTHER THAN HE WAS THINKING ABOUT DOING A, UM, CELL SERVICE STORAGE UNITS.
UH, A SIGN WAS ATTACHED TO THE BUILDING ON AUGUST 1ST, UM, SAYING THAT IT, UM, ANNOUNCING SAN ANTONIO EMPIRE VOLLEYBALL
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BUSINESS.SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MEANS HE'S ALREADY LEASED IT OR HE IS PREPARING TO LEASE IT, BUT HE DOES NOT HAVE THE ZONING TO DO SO AS YET, OR I DON'T KNOW.
UM, THE CURRENT ZONING IS R SIX.
HE'S ASKING FOR I D Z TWO WITH USES IN C TWO.
UM, OUR CURRENT LAND USE IS DETERMINED BY OUR MIDTOWNS NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN.
WE HAVEN'T STARTED OUR SUB AREA PLAN, UH, PROCESS YET.
SO, UM, HE'S REQUESTING MIXED USE, WHICH, UM, ALLOWS WITHIN OUR PLAN FOR HIGHER COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
THIS PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL LOTS, WHICH FOR US MEANS SINGLE AND DUPLEXES.
AND YOU CAN SEE THERE'S OUR MIDTOWN PLAN.
AM I DONE? IS THAT MEAN? I'M THAT'S FINE, YEAH, UNLESS ANYBODY WANTS TO YIELD THEIR TIME.
CAN YOU, WHAT, WHAT YOUR NAME? UH, ELIZABETH ECO WESTWOOD.
AND THEN, SO DO I GET THREE? YOU CAN GET, UH, SIX UP TO SIX MINUTES.
SO CAN WE JUST DO ONE FOR NOW? BECAUSE YOU MIGHT WANT, I MIGHT NOT TAKE THAT MUCH TIME.
UM, AND SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THE PALE YELLOW IS LOW RESIDE, UH, LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, AND THE BLUE.IS WHERE THE PROPERTY SITS.
THIS IS THE AREA AROUND, UM, ATCH.
THERE'S A BEAUTIFUL CHURCH ACROSS THE STREET, GRACE CATHEDRAL.
THERE IS SOME MIDDLE HOUSING, UM, MIDDLE, MISSING MIDDLE.
IT DOESN'T, IT'S NOT MISSING IN BEACON HILL.
WE HAVE A LOT OF MIDDLE HOUSING AS WELL AS SINGLE FAMILY.
AND YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE SINGLE FAMILY LOTS, SOME OF THE MULTI, UM, UH, FAMILY LOTS.
THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE ON GOOGLE.
I THINK YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN THAT PICTURE.
UM, THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTING, REQUESTING MIXED USE UNDER OUR PLAN.
IT'S, UM, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND IT'S A HIGHER INTENSITY COMMERCIAL CLASSIFICATION, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.
UH, WE ARE NOT, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT RECOMMENDING NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.
OUR ZONING COMMITTEE IS RECOMMENDING IT.
WE MEET ON MONDAY, UM, ALONG WITH THE COUNCILWOMAN, UM, WITH ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORS IN OUR WRIGLEY SCHEDULED ADVERTISED MEETING IN ORDER FOR US TO BE ABLE TO, UM, GIVE INFORMATION TO RESIDENTS AS WELL AS INVITED THE DEVELOPER TO COME AND ALSO PRESENT SO PEOPLE CAN ASK QUESTIONS AND MAKE INFORMED CHOICES.
UH, BUT YOU'VE HEARD TODAY, UM, OR YOU WILL HEAR TODAY, BUT YOU'VE HEARD ON THE, THE VOICEMAILS, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO KEEP THIS HOUSING BECAUSE THIS IS BADLY NEEDED IN DOWNTOWN NEIGHBORHOODS.
IT'S BETTER FOR LOCAL BUSINESSES.
IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S A GOOD THING.
SO EVEN THOUGH OUR UM, ZD COMMITTEE IS RECOMMENDING NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, WE DON'T HAVE THE VOTE TO REPRESENT THAT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS YET.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD A FUTURE LAND USE, IF WE WERE ALREADY IN, IN THE U D C INSTEAD OF OUR, OF OUR PLAN, WE WOULD BE RECOMMENDING URBAN LOAD DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, WHICH GIVES, UM, GENTLER NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESSES AS WELL AS HOUSING.
AND WE, WE WILL MEET ON AUGUST 14TH IN ORDER TO, UM, TAKE A VOTE BY THE COMMUNITY, WHICH IS HOW WE DO IT IN BEACON HILL.
AND JUST WANNA MAKE QUICK ANNOUNCEMENTS THAT YOU KNOW.
UM, MR. BOB OWEN, IS HE HERE? MS. VANNESS, GOOD AFTERNOON.
I'M A RESIDENT BEACON HILL AND OBVIOUSLY I OPPOSE THE REZONING CHANGING ALL THIS LAND USE FOR THE REASONS THAT ALL THE CALLERS HAVE SET.
Y'ALL KNOW WE'RE NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICT UNLIKE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS.
THAT MEANS WE ACT, WE ENCOURAGE FRONT PORCHES.
THE MAJORITY OF OUR HOMES HAVE FRONT PORCHES.
WE ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO WALK, GET TO KNOW YOUR NEIGHBORS, WALK YOUR DOGS, BRING YOUR CHILDREN, WALK, WALK, WALK.
WE HAVE SO MANY NEW FAMILIES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE DO THAT CHANGING THIS, THIS ZONING.
THE LAND USE IN THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION'S GONNA DEFEAT EVERYTHING WE STAND FOR.
IT'S GONNA KILL OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
Y'ALL HEARD IT FROM ALL THOSE RESIDENTS.
I'M GONNA GIVE YOU, I KNOW I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO GET EMOTIONAL.
15 OF MY FAMILY MEMBERS OWN SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE IN BEACON HILL AND WE LIVE THERE.
HER PT GUY MEET, WALKS HER EVERY TUESDAY AND THURSDAY.
AND WHERE DOES HE WALK? HER? RIGHT BY THIS PROPERTY.
SHE WON'T BE ABLE TO WALK, CHANGE, LAND, USE, WHO KNOWS WHAT.
ALL THE TRAFFIC, IT'S JUST GONNA CHANGE THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THOSE REASONS.
I OPPOSE, YOU KNOW, CHANGING THE LAND USE.
IT'S JUST TOO INTENSE FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
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SIT FLOPPING DOWN, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING ELSE IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD JUST DOESN'T WORK.SO I ASK YOU TO PLEASE CONSIDER ALL THAT, CONSIDER MY WISHES ALONG WITH ALL THE REST OF OUR NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE EXPRESSED SO TO YOU TODAY.
I I'D LIKE TO READ A FORMAL LETTER FROM THE BEACON HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
I LIVE AT 10 38 WEST SUMMIT AVENUE.
UH, DEAR PLANNING COMMISSIONERS BEACON HILL AREA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
OPPOSED THE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR MIXED USE AT 1 0 0 2 WEST ATCH.
THE LAND USE AT THIS ADDRESS IS A LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AREA AND IT IS SURROUNDED BY ALL SIDES BY LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
THIS PROPERTY SITS IN THE MIDDLE OF A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE AND THE PROPERTY WAS OWNED UNTIL RECENTLY BY THE CONQUERORS ASSEMBLY CHURCH, WHO DEVELOPED THE PROPERTY INTO A SPORTS COMPLEX FOR VOLLEYBALL AROUND THE TURN OF THE TWO THOUSANDS WITHOUT A ZONING CHANGE OR PLAN AMENDMENT.
BECAUSE AS A CHURCH THEY WERE EXEMPT.
RECENTLY THEY SOLD TO A SECULAR COMPANY WHO HAS EXPRESSED THE WISH TO DEVELOP IT INTO A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
THE APPLICANT FOR A PLAN AMENDMENT, MR. EDGAR ON EU OF MAVERICK TURNKEY CONSTRUCTION GROUP, L L C, MET WITH THE ZONING AND URBAN DESIGN COMMITTEE AS WELL AS MANY OF THE NEAR NEIGHBORS TO THE PROPERTY BY PHONE AND LET US KNOW THAT HE IS SEEKING A CHANGE FROM R SIX TO I D Z TWO FOR USES IN C TWO.
HE SAID HE WAS CONTEMPLATING A STORAGE UNIT COMPLEX, BUT HE WAS NOT SURE WHERE THE COMPANY'S USE OF THE PROPERTY WOULD ACTUALLY BE.
HE HAS BEEN INVITED TO PRESENT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AT, AT AN ADVERTISED MEETING ON AUGUST 14TH, 2023.
WE OPPOSE A LAND USE CHANGE FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO MIXED USE IN THE MIDDLE OF A RESIDENTIAL AIR NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE IT IS TOO INTENSE AND IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA THAT IS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
IT IS ALSO AN INTENSE COMMERCIAL BUSINESS, OR WHAT HE'S PROPOSING IS AN INTENSE COMMERCIAL BUSINESS IN THE MIDDLE OF A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS IN CONFLICT WITH A MIDTOWN NEIGHBORHOODS PLAN.
AS WE BEGIN, BEGIN OUR SUB AREA PLANNING PROCESS LATER THIS YEAR, WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK FOR COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL COMP COMPATIBILITY.
A LAND USE OF MIXED USE LAND IN THE MIDDLE OF A RESIDENTIAL AREA COULD IMPEDE THIS WORK OPPOSED BY ALMOST ALL OF THE RESIDENTS LIVING IN THE, IN THE NEAR AREA AS WELL AS THE BEACON HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION BOARD AND OUR ZONING AND URBAN DESIGN COMMITTEE.
AND AS YOU CAN TELL, WE OPPOSE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MS. UH, SHERI COLLINS.
UM, I LIVE AT 10 20 WEST ATCH, UM, AS A NEIGHBOR, ONLY TWO DOORS DOWN FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
I STRONGLY OPPOSED, OPPOSED THE PROPOSED LAND USE AND ZONING CHANGES.
THE CHANGES ARE NOT NEIGHBORHOOD FRIENDLY.
THEY'LL DAMAGE BEACON HILL AND WILL NOT SERVE THE INTEREST OF ITS RESIDENTS.
10 0 2 WEST ATCH IS SURROUNDED BY LOW DENSITY RES, LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES AND CHURCHES FOR SEVERAL BLOCKS.
THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMERCIAL, COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES IN THE CENTER OF BEACON HILL.
BUSINESSES ARE ONLY LOCATED ALONG COLLECTOR ROADS AND NOT LOCAL ROADS.
CHANGING LAND USE WOULD ALLOW COMMERCIAL USES FROM A BROAD LIST, UM, FROM C TWO ZONING.
UM, BUILDING ONE OF THESE BUSINESSES IN THE DEAD, DEAD CENTER OF THIS QUIET HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT A GOOD FIT.
INCREASED NON-RESIDENT TRAFFIC, PARKING HASSLES, NOISE POLLUTION, PHYSICAL POLLUTION, COMMERCIAL TRASH COLLECTION AND CONGESTION WILL PERMANENTLY AND IRREVOCABLY DAMAGE THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND ITS AMAZING CHARACTER.
THE TONED DOWN AND SEA DE DESIGNATION WOULD COVER THE OWNER SINCE HE'S ALREADY LEASED THE PROPERTY TO A VOLLEYBALL CLUB WITHOUT REGARD TO THE CURRENT ZONING OR LAND USE.
HOWEVER, IT'S MY IMPRESSION THE NEW CLUB AS WELL AS ITS FORMER TENANT AND THEIR EVENTS ATTRACTED PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND DIDN'T, UM, AND DID NOT, AND WILL NOT DIRECTLY SERVE THE COMMUNITY OF BEACON HILL.
THE NC DESIGNATION ALSO OPENS UP THE PROPERTY FOR LESS DESIRABLE FUTURE USES.
USES THAT DO NOT CURRENTLY EXIST ON THE LOCAL STREETS WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
BEACON HILL IS EASILY ONE OF SAN ANTONIO'S BEST NEAR TOWN NEIGHBORHOODS.
THERE'S A TRUE SENSE OF COMMUNITY THAT I HAVEN'T EXPERIENCED ANYWHERE I'VE LIVED EITHER IN THE STATE OR ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
NEIGHBORS CARE FOR ONE ANOTHER, LOOK OUT FOR EACH OTHER, AND WE ALSO LOOK OUT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, HOW IT CAN BEST SERVE ITS RESIDENTS AND HOW IT CAN BE PRESERVED AND PROTECTED.
THESE ZONING CHANGES WILL NEV NEV NEGATIVELY IMPACT OUR QUALITY OF LIFE AS WELL AS OUR PROPERTY VALUES.
PLEASE VOTE TO DECLINE THIS REQUEST.
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FINGER.GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN, REST OF THE COMMISSION.
I'M A, I LIVE AT 9 0 1 WEST MULBERRY.
I'M A MEMBER OF THE BEACON HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
UH, BEACON HILL NEIGHBORHOOD HAS, UH, GONE THROUGH A LOT OF GRIEF JUST ON THIS ONE ADDRESS.
PLEASE DON'T MAKE US GO THROUGH ANYMORE.
UH, THE, UH, THIS IS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE AREA HERE AND WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED HERE, I D Z WITH USES IN C THREE, WHICH I'M JUST GOING THROUGH A NUMBER OF 'EM HERE, WHICH IS A, A POSSIBILITIES HERE, WHICH IS A BUILDING UP TO FOUR STORIES HIGH, HUH.
AND ALSO USES THAT INCLUDE A LIQUOR STORE.
UM, AND VARIOUS OTHER USES HERE.
I MEAN, THIS IS SITUATED RIGHT NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL HOMES AND FAMILIES WHO WOULD HAVE TO LIVE NEXT TO THIS.
WE, UH, WE'VE BEEN THROUGH A BAD, WE'VE HAD BAD TASTES IN OUR MOUTH WITH THE REAL ESTATE COMPANY WHO SOLD US RECENTLY.
DIDN'T, DID NOT INFORM US ABOUT IT.
WE COULD HAVE OFFERED CONSTRUCTIVE USES FOR IT, BUT THEY, DID THEY LISTEN TO US? NO.
WE HAVE BAD TASTES IN OUR MOUTH REGARDING THE PREVIOUS OWNER.
A CHURCH WHO LEASED ON A HALLOWEEN PARTY WHERE NUMEROUS GUNSHOTS WERE FIRED, NUMEROUS CALLS CAME INTO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
POLICE DEPARTMENT COULD NOT FIND ANY CULPRITS.
AND HE EVEN SOUNDED INDIFFERENT TO US AT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETING WHEN WE CON EXPRESSED OUR CONCERNS.
HERE, YOU CAN SEE THE BAD TASTE IN OUR MOUTH REGARDING THIS WHOLE SITUATION.
WE'RE TRYING TO BE NICE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION TRYING TO OFFER CONSTRUCTIVE THINGS HERE, BUT WE CAN'T DO IT.
IF SOMEBODY KEEPS DECEIVING US, PLEASE, UH, YOU KNOW WHERE WE'RE COMING FROM.
MS. ECO, YOU YIELDED YOUR TIME, CORRECT? UH, I DID.
UM, HELLO, MY NAME IS SAM HINES.
I LIVE AT 10 23 WEST MAGNOLIA AVENUE.
UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY MY OPPOSITION TO THE ZONING CHANGE.
UM, WE LIVE PRETTY CLOSE TO THIS, UH, PROPERTY, AND I BELIEVE THAT TURNING IT INTO A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS WOULD BE A DETRIMENT, UH, JUST TO THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND, UH, WOULD AFFECT, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF THE LOOK AND FEEL OF WHERE WE LIVE.
AND, UH, FOR THOSE REASONS, I'M IN OPPOSITION TO THAT.
I'D ALSO BE IN OPPOSITION, I THINK, TO THE CITY'S, UH, RECOMMENDED OR ALTERNATIVE PLAN TO TURN THAT INTO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.
UM, I BELIEVE THAT THAT LOT WOULD BE BEST SERVED AS A SITE FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
UH, THANK Y'ALL FOR DOING THIS AS A SERVICE TO THE SAN ANTONIO, UH, CITIZENS.
UM, I OPPOSE ANY ZONING FOR ANY COMMERCIAL USE FOR 1000 TO WEST SATCH.
UM, WE ARE NOT A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.
I'M NOT SURE THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT WHEN WE SAY BEACON HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WE HAVE NO DUES.
WE SEND OUT 2,600 NEWSLETTERS EVERY MONTH, PRINTED OURSELVES, ALL FREE, ALL VOLUNTEERS.
UM, JUST A FEW ITEMS. WE ARE UNDER THE MIDTOWN PLAN, AND WE DO HAVE AN N C D.
UH, THERE IS NO PRECEDENT FOR COMMERCIAL ZONING ANYWHERE NEAR THIS LOCATION OVER THE TIME THAT, UM, I'VE LIVED, LIVED HERE SINCE 96.
UM, ALSO, WE AS NEIGHBORS AND GOOD CITIZENS HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO CONSIDER FUTURE RESIDENTS OF BEACON HILL.
AND SO WE ARE ALSO REPRESENTING THEM WHEN WE'RE UP HERE SAYING, WE OPPOSE THIS BECAUSE THERE'S NO PLACE FOR COMMERCIAL IN THIS AREA.
AND, UH, THE MAP REALLY SHOWED IT ON THE MIDTOWN PLAN.
UH, AND, AND SPEAKING OF THE MIDTOWN PLAN, WE HAD, UH, OVER 100 RESIDENTS, OR CLOSE TO A HUNDRED RESIDENTS.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE MIDTOWN PLAN, THEIR NAMES ARE ON THERE FROM BEACON HILLS.
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THIS ISN'T JUST NOW THAT PEOPLE ARE, ARE BACKING AND SUPPORTING THE MIDTOWN PLAN, THE MIDTOWN PLAN STATES AND ENCOURAGES BUSINESSES AND COMMERCIAL, UM, COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES AND LOCATIONS, BUT SPECIFICALLY ON BLANCO, FREDERICKSBURG ROAD, HILDEBRAND FOR ALTA VISTA, WHICH WAS PART OF, UH, OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, UH, FLOORS IN SAN PEDRO.UM, THE SATCH LOCATION IS NOWHERE NEAR ANY OF THESE, UM, CORRIDORS.
UM, WE HAVE A SPECIAL COMMUNITY IN BEACON HILL, AND I GUESS I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT 'CAUSE MY TIME'S UP.
ALRIGHT, THAT CONCLUDES CITIZENS TO BE HEARD.
CAN I, CAN I SPEAK ON THAT? I, NO, UH, YOU HAVE TO SIGN UP, SIR, BEFORE THE MEETING STARTS.
UM, THE APPLICANT, DO YOU WISH TO, UH, PROVIDE A REBUTTAL OR ANSWER ANY OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HEARD IN THE VOICEMAILS OR HOW MUCH TIME FROM YOUR NEIGHBORS? I GOT SIX MINUTES.
UM, I THINK, UM, THE, SO AS FAR AS THE MIDTOWN PLAN IS CONCERNED, THE PLAN SPECIFICALLY PROMOTES BUSINESS AND USAGE AND COMMERCIAL USAGE IN, IN THAT AREA.
I THINK THERE'S, UH, UH, OBVIOUSLY THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR, OR BEACON HILL COMMUNITY, UH, IS, UH, THIS GROUP IS, IS LOBBYING FOR WHAT THEY WANT, PLEASE AND MICROPHONE, THEY'RE LOBBYING FOR, UH, WHAT THEY WOULD, UH, LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN THERE.
BUT THE, THE, WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS WITHIN THE MIDTOWN PLAN AS IT'S WRITTEN.
UM, AND, UH, AS CITY STAFF, UH, REQUESTED, I THINK WE'RE IN LINE WITH, UM, THE ALTERNATE OF THE NC.
SO, UH, I UNDERSTAND THE DENIAL ON THE I D Z AND, UH, WE'RE IN LINE WITH THE, UH, REQUEST FOR APPROVAL ON THE, UM, NC JUST TO CLARIFY THAT THIS BODY DOESN'T, UH, ADDRESS THE ZONING ISSUE, BUT THE ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL FOR LAND USE.
THE LAND USE TO CLARIFY THAT? CORRECT.
I, I, I AGREE WITH YOU A HUNDRED PERCENT.
I THINK A LOT OF THE CALLS THEY WERE SPEAKING OF ZONING AND C THREE AND C TWO AND ALL, AND THAT DOESN'T QUITE RELATE TO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE TODAY.
BUT I DID WRITE 'EM DOWN AND, AND, AND THEN AFTER A WHILE IT WAS JUST KIND OF COMMON, COMMON COMMENT.
SO I, I DON'T THINK THAT EVERYONE HAS QUITE THE UNDERSTANDING, BUT, BUT YES, I DID CATCH THAT AS WELL.
I'LL OPEN IT UP TO COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS STARTING WITH THE COMMISSIONER LOPEZ.
I ASK UH, TWO QUESTIONS, A COUPLE QUESTIONS, UH, UH, FOR THE APPLICANT AND FOR STAFF.
UH, AND SO IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME WHO ANSWERS.
SO THE EXISTING BUILDING THAT'S THERE, HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN THERE? I BELIEVE THAT BUILDING WAS BUILT IN 1983 AND IT WAS, UH, REZONED UNDER A MASS REZONING, NOT NECESSARILY A PLANNED OUT REZONING.
SO WHEN IT WAS REZONED, I BELIEVE, UH, INITIALLY IT WAS OH ONE, UH, ZERO ONE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, OFFICE ONE.
AND SO WHEN THEY DID THE OVERALL REZONING TO R SIX, THEY REALLY DIDN'T ACCOUNT FOR THE TYPE STRUCTURE.
AND FOR STAFF, UM, YOU HAD A RECOMMENDATION FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD FOR A LAND USE THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.
DO Y'ALL, IS THE INTENDED USE AT THE APPLICANT TRYING TO GO FOR, IS IT CONSIDERED AN INDOOR ATHLETIC FIELD OR AN INDOOR, LIKE GYM OR RECREATION BE, I'M WONDERING IF AN IF OH ONE WOULD ALLOW WHAT HE'S TRYING TO DO, OR IS, IS IT JUST NC WHAT WAS IT? I I D C YOU'RE SAYING? WELL, IT, THERE WAS AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION FOR A LAND USE THAT WOULD, THAT'LL ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO PURSUE NC CORRECT.
SO THE, UM, FITNESS CENTER INDOOR ONLY IS PERMITTED IN NC.
YEAH, THERE'S A, IN, IN THE USE CHART, THERE'S ONE THAT TALKS ABOUT INDOOR ATHLETIC FIELDS, AND THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT TALKS ABOUT GYMS. ONE OF THEM WOULD BE ALLOWED IN AN OH ONE WHILE THE OTHER WOULD BE A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
AND I WAS JUST CURIOUS, UM, YOU KNOW, IF, IF WHAT THE APPLICANT WAS PURSUING WAS IN LINE WITH WHAT STAFF WAS RECOMMENDING.
AND, AND THEN ON THAT POINT, DID YOU, DID THE STAFF EXPLAIN TO YOU WHAT THEIR ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION WAS AND DID YOU FIND THAT ACCEPTABLE? YEAH, NO, I, I THINK WE, I'VE HAD, UH, SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH, WITH YOUR STAFF AND, UM, OVER THE CONVERSATION.
AND, AND THEY, THEY DID EXPLAIN THAT IF HE DID, IF HE DID PURSUE THAT ZONING, IT WOULD BE A CONDITIONAL, UH, A CD DISTRICT OVERLAY, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE A SITE PLAN AND MORE COMMUNITY INPUT DURING ZONING ABOUT WHAT SPECIFICALLY WOULD BE THERE.
I BELIEVE THAT, UH, UH, I UNDERSTOOD THAT TO BE UNDER THE I D Z, NOT NECESSARILY UNDER THE OKAY.
CONDITION, HE WOULD STILL HAVE TO, HE'D STILL BE PURSUING I D Z WITH A, HE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO PURSUE I D Z I D Z IS ONLY ALLOWED IN THE MIXED USE CATEGORY IN THE MIDTOWN PLAN.
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STAFF, IF, IF WE, UH, MAKE A MOTION FOR STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, HE COULDN'T DO I D Z, HE'D HAVE TO DO NC WITH A CD TO ALLOW THE SELF-STORAGE THAT HE AND HE IS PROPOSING IN, WHICH WOULD MEAN HE HAD TO TURN IN A SITE PLAN.EITHER WAY WOULD NEED A UNDERSTAND THAT EITHER WAY HE WOULD NEED A SITE PLAN.
BUT YES, THAT'S WHAT WE UNDERSTOOD.
AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE THAT, THAT THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT LEVEL OF REVIEW, COMMUNITY INPUT AND, AND, AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU THAT WAS UNDERSTOOD.
I, THAT PART I, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND.
SO I THINK WE WERE PUTTING IN TOGETHER A SITE PLAN TO SHOW, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY CHANGES TO THE BUILDING AT ALL.
UM, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY IT'LL BE OPEN, UPDATED, BUT, UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE ARE NO ADDITIONS TO THE BUILDING UNDER THE, UH, NC SO YOU WOULD KEEP THE EXISTING BUILDING, CORRECT? CORRECT.
WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO TEAR ANYTHING DOWN OR BUILD GLASS STRUCTURES OR FOUR STORY STRUCTURES.
I THINK THAT'S JUST A BUNCH OF FEAR.
AND THEN MOVING FORWARD, WOULD, WOULD HE BE, I'M SORRY TO CUT YOU OFF, MOVING FORWARD, WOULD HE BE SUSCEPTIBLE TO THE CURRENT SETBACKS AND, AND BUFFERS, OR WOULD ANY OF THAT BE GRANDFATHERED BECAUSE A BUILDING WOULD BE REMAINED? IT'S, IT'S GRANDFATHERED.
BUT NO, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO TEAR DOWN THE BUILDING OR BUILD A FOUR STORY, WHATEVER WAS, WAS COMMENTED ON, NONE OF THAT.
I MEAN, BEFORE I RELEASE, THE REASON WHY I WANTED TO ASK IS IF THAT BUILDING'S BEEN THERE FOR 40 YEARS AND IT'S BEING USED FOR ATHLETIC PURPOSES FOR 40 YEARS AND YOU'RE GONNA KEEP THE BUILDING AS IS AND, AND NOT REALLY CHANGE WHAT'S BEEN THERE FOR 40 YEARS.
THAT, THAT JUST GIVES SOME WEIGHT OF, OF HOW I'M GONNA LOOK AT THIS.
WELL, THANK YOU AB ABSOLUTELY.
SO, AND THAT'S THE THING, IT'S BEEN USED IN THIS MANNER.
WE'RE NOT CHANGING HOW IT'S THE USE, WE WILL CHANGE IT WHEN IT BECOMES A STORAGE FACILITY AT SOME POINT.
WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT POINT IS, BUT THE COMMENTS THAT WE'RE GETTING ABOUT, I, I HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT THE POLICE CALLS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
WE WEREN'T INVOLVED WITH THAT SHOULD HAVE NO BEARING ON ME AS AN INDIVIDUAL.
I, I DON'T THINK SHOOT ANYBODY.
BUT, UM, THE PURPOSE IS, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, WHEN WE GO INTO A STORAGE FACILITY, THE TRAFFIC ACTUALLY BECOMES SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED.
SO IF HE GOES THROUGH, IF HE GOES THROUGH THIS PROCESS FOR THE ATHLETIC AND THEN HE WANTS TO PURSUE STORAGE LATER, THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER REZONE BECAUSE EVERYTHING'S TIED TO THE CD, RIGHT? CORRECT.
BUT RIGHT NOW, I MEAN, AGAIN, ZONING IS A DIFFERENT AREA, RIGHT? YEAH.
BUT HE CAN DO, UH, CONDITIONAL USE WITH NC.
COMMISSIONER GARCIA, I, UH, I'M PLEASED TO SEE THE NEIGHBORHOOD STEP UP AND DEFEND THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
I REALIZED WHEN I WAS INVOLVED IN NEIGHBORHOODS MAYBE ABOUT 30, 40 YEARS AGO, I REMEMBER LIZ DAVIS BEING ONE OF THE FIGHTERS, UH, OR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND I, I SUPPORT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION 'CAUSE I WOULD NOT LIKE TO SEE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD CHANGE SO MUCH.
NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER IS VERY IMPORTANT TO SAN ANTONIO.
COMMISSIONER SCHINDLER, I DON'T REALLY HAVE NECESSARILY HAVE A QUESTION, BUT, UH, MORE OF A CLARIFICATION.
HAVE YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND ONE OF THE IN-PERSON BEACON HILL NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS? I BELIEVE THERE IS ONE COMING UP.
UM, WE, I I DON'T QUITE REMEMBER WHAT DATE IT IS.
15TH, 14TH, SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
UH, WE PLAN TO BE THERE OR ATTEND IN SOME WAY, BUT, UM, I FIND IT, UM, DIFFICULT AT TIMES TO TRY TO CONVEY WHAT, UH, IS GOING ON OR WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO.
I THINK IT'S JUST LIKE YOU MENTIONED, THE BAD TASTE IN THEIR MOUTH.
IT, IT JUST, IT'S SPILLING OVER INTO AREAS THAT ARE FAR BEYOND MY CONTROL.
I APPRECIATE, UH, THE CLARIFICATION.
I THINK THAT WHILE THEIR OPINION MAY OR MAY NOT CHANGE THE IN-PERSON ATTENDANCE AND MAYBE GETTING TO KNOW THEM MIGHT BENEFIT YOU IN THE LONG RUN SHOULD YOU RETAIN OWNERSHIP OF THE SITE.
MR. PECK, I HAVE NO COMMENT AT THIS TIME.
COMMISSIONER, UH, DESU, MY COMMENT IS JUST TO THANK ALL THE CITIZENS WHO CAME IN HERE TODAY TO SHARE THEIR, UH, THOUGHTS AND OPINIONS ABOUT THE CASE AND ALSO FOR THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THE CASE AND TRY TO COME HERE AND, UH, COMPLY WITH, UH, THE CURRENT USE OF THE CHURCH.
UH, SO I HAVE NO QUESTIONS, SO I JUST THANK EVERYBODY FOR DOING THAT.
UH, COMMISSIONER FAULKNER, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
I JUST WANTED TO ECHO WHAT COMMISSIONER LER SCHINDLER AND, UH, COMMISSIONER JAKI, UM, JUST ARTICULATED COMMISSIONER MILAH.
SO IT'S, IT'S VERY CONFUSING FOLLOWING ALL OF THIS, PARTICULARLY GIVEN THAT THERE'S
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A MEETING COMING UP THAT HAS NOT YET OCCURRED TO, FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION TO MAKE THEIR RECOMMENDATION.UM, ALTHOUGH WE HAVE HEARD FROM SOME FOLKS WHO ANTICIPATED THAT, WHO SAID THEY'RE ALSO AGAINST THAT ONE, THIS WHOLE PROCESS SEEMS TO ME TO BE A LITTLE BIT PREMATURE AT THIS POINT.
UM, WHAT I WOULD SUPPORT WOULD BE A CONTINUANCE.
UM, AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S WONDERFUL TO HEAR ALL THE VOICEMAILS AND HAVE THE, ALL THE PEOPLE COME TODAY.
SOMEBODY MENTIONED SENSE OF COMMUNITY, WHICH IS IMPORTANT AND THAT WEIGHS PRETTY HEAVILY ON WHAT WE'RE DOING.
UM, UH, THE, THE QUESTIONS I KEEP HEARING ARE RELATED TO ZONING, WHICH AGAIN, IS NOT THE PURVIEW OF, OF THIS BODY IS LAND USE, UM, WHERE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL SEEMS TO BE ACCEPTABLE.
BUT AGAIN, I, AS COMMISSIONER MILAM, UH, SO ELOQUENTLY STATED, I, WE DON'T HAVE A CLEAR SENSE OF WHERE THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS FOR NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, BUT AGAINST THE ZONING OR IF THEY JUST WANT RESIDENTIAL.
SO, UM, I MEAN, I'LL LEAVE IT TO THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS, BUT I WOULD SUPPORT A CONTINUANCE IN THAT CASE.
YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO PARTICIPATE IN THEIR UPCOMING MEETING AND, UH, YOU KNOW, COME TO SOME CONSENSUS, UH, BEFORE COMING BACK TO HERE AND THEN TO ZONING.
I THINK THAT WOULD CREATE HARMONY WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO, UM, BUT I WILL, I CAN'T MAKE MOTION, SO I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MY COMMISSIONERS, UH, FOR, UH, MOTION.
I'M GONNA MOVE TO, UH, FILE A STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, UH, COMMERCIAL ON THIS.
UH, AND DURING DISCUSSION, IF I, IF, IF I HEAR ENOUGH PEOPLE AGAINST IT, I'LL WITHDRAW.
I'LL SECOND, SECOND THE MOTION.
A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ORIEN TO, UM, ACCEPT THE ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION BY STAFF OF NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA.
I'LL, I'LL JUST START THE DISCUSSION.
I, I JUST THINK IT'S A ZONING ISSUE, UH, LIKE WE'VE BEEN HEARING.
AND I THINK THAT IF THEY FILE FOR A CD, LET 'EM WORK IT OUT WITH ZONING AND THE COUNCIL DISTRICT AND THE COMMUNITY, THEY'LL HAVE A, IT'LL BE A BATTLE, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S, IT'S OUR BATTLE AT THIS POINT.
AND AGAIN, IF I HEAR ENOUGH PEOPLE WHO WOULD RATHER HAVE A CONTINUANCE, I'LL WITHDRAW.
NO, I WOULD MOVE FOR A CONTINUANCE.
UH, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, PECK? NO.
BEFORE IT'S READ, I'LL WITHDRAW THE MOTION IF THAT'S PO IF THAT'S ACCEPTABLE TO THE CHAIR.
CAN I ASK A QUESTION? WHAT IS I, IF IT IS ALLOWED WITHIN THE, UM, CODE AND GUIDELINE AND, UM, AM I REQUIRED TO MEET OR COME TO AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM? SO, UH, IF, IF THE CONTINUANCE IS GRANTED AND WE'RE ASKING FOR A CONTINUANCE, ARE WE GONNA DO THIS AGAIN IN A MONTH? 'CAUSE I DON'T NECESSARILY SEE THAT THAT POSITION IS GOING TO CHANGE AND THEIR OPPOSITION FOR THE PROPERTY GOING TO CHANGE.
WE'D PUSH FOR A MONTH AND BE AT THE SAME STATE.
UM, AND, AND THEN AT THE SAME TIME, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S ISSUES WITH THE PROPERTY ARE BASICALLY HOW, HOW IT IS HAS BEEN USED AND HOW IT'S HAS BEEN USED SINCE 1983.
SO I'M NOT SURE OF HOW I COULD CORRECT SOME OF THAT OUTSIDE OF ESTABLISHING OURSELVES WITHIN THAT COMMUNITY, WITHIN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, WITHIN THAT BUILDING, AND MAKING A CHANGE FROM WHAT'S OCCURRED UNTIL NOW AND THEN MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT.
THAT, THAT'S, UH, THE HISTORY.
I, I, I CAN'T, SO THAT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF A BIG ASK TO CORRECT SOME OF THE BAD BLOOD THAT'S ASSOCIATED, NOT ASSOCIATED WITH ME, BUT ASSOCIATED WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, SO THE CONTINUANCE, I'M NOT SURE OF IT.
IT PUSHES THE MATTER 30 DAYS OUT, 40 DAYS OUT.
BUT THE MATTER STILL, YOU KNOW, IN THIS SITUATION WE'RE TRYING TO SEE IF THERE IS A, A SYNERGY BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOUR PLANS.
AND I MEAN, IF THE CONTINUANCE IS GRANTED, THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
QUESTION MAY FOR STAFF, DOES, DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE TO MAKE THE REQUEST FOR THE CONTINUANCE? CAN WE
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CONTINUE IT WITHOUT, WITH OR WITHOUT HIS? THAT'S CORRECT.SO, AND YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF DATES.
YOU'VE GOT SEPTEMBER 13TH AND SEPTEMBER 27TH.
ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU DO NOT WANT TO MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR THAT NO, I'M SAYING I'VE, I'VE MET WITH THEM BEFORE AND I, I'VE HEARD THEIR CONCERNS.
SO MY INITIAL REQUEST WAS FOR A C THREE WHEN WE MET WITH COUNSEL, RIGHT.
OR HAD A CONVERSATION WITH COUNSEL, WAS TO COME IN AT A C THREE, UH, SPEAKING WITH COUNSEL THAT SAID, HEY, LET'S GO WITH AN I D Z TWO, WHICH IS A LESSER IMPACT TO TRY TO, TO TRY TO MEET MIDDLE OF THE ROAD WITH WHAT WE UNDERSTAND.
WE'RE IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA AND TRY TO MEET WITH ON A COMMON GROUND WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
OBVIOUSLY, C THREE IS, IS A BETTER USAGE WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE, UH, CAPABILITY OF WHAT COULD HAPPEN THERE AND UNDERSTAND THAT ZONING.
UM, AND THEN THAT MIXED USE LAND DESIGNATION NEEDED TO SUPPORT THE ZONING.
SO WE TRY TO COME DOWN TO A, UH, I D Z AND, AND WITH THE INTENT OF MEETING HALFWAY, SHOWING A SENSE OF COMMUNITY, SHOWING A SENSE OF COMMON GROUND AND UNDERSTANDING, UM, TO, IF YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN THE BUILDING, THERE'S NO WAY A RESIDENTIAL OF ANY TYPE WOULD WORK WITHIN THAT STRUCTURE.
UM, UNDERSTANDING THAT, UM, THAT I, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW I WOULD BE ABLE TO CHANGE THEIR MIND OR COME TO AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM.
I I, I DON'T FORESEE THAT HAPPENING FROM SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT I'VE RECEIVED FROM THEM AS IS, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, DISCUSSING C THREE, UH, R I D Z WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED UNDER NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.
SO THAT, THAT'S A DIFFERENT LENS FOR US TO LOOK THROUGH.
I MEAN, WE WERE, WE WERE CONSIDERING THE ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, UH, WHICH YOU SEEMED DE AMENABLE TO.
AND, AND, AND SO WHAT I WAS STATING WAS WHEN WE FIRST LOOKED AT THE PROPERTY, IT WAS WITH THE INTENT OF C THREE, AFTER HEARING SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND REALIZING THAT, HEY, THIS C THREE ISN'T GONNA WORK, LET'S COME DOWN FROM THAT TO TRY TO FIND A COMMON GROUND TO MEET THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S REQUEST.
AND SOME OF THE NEIGHBOR, I'M SORRY, I D Z, TO TRY TO MEET, UM, THE INTENT OF, UH, MORE OF A COMMUNITY TYPE BUSINESS.
COMMUNITY TYPE STRUCTURE, COMMUNITY TYPE.
UM, I PROBABLY CAN SPEAK FOR THE COMMISSION THAT WE PREFER THAT YOU WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY, UH, WHETHER WE APPROVE OR NOT APPROVE OR YOU CONTIN, WE CONTINUE IT, IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT COMMUNITY BUY-IN AND INVOLVEMENT.
SO I WILL OPEN, UNLESS COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, AND I'LL JUST ADD THAT YOU HAVE, UM, WE'LL GIVE YOU TWO WEEKS OUT, WHICH IS AUGUST 23RD.
FOUR WEEKS IS SEPTEMBER 13TH, AND SIX WEEKS IS SEPTEMBER 27TH.
WOULD ANY COMMISSIONERS CARE TO MAKE A MOTION THE QUESTION TO THE APPLICANT, WHICH DATE YOU WANTED TO? UH, THE SOONER, THE EARLIER THE BETTER.
AND MY, MY UNDERSTANDING IS IF, IF WE BRING IT INTO, AFTER THE CONTINUANCE, WE HAVE A MEETING OF SOME SORT, TRY TO GET ON THE, UH, SAME PAGE AT THE POINT THAT THAT IS OR DOES, DOES OR DOES NOT HAPPEN, WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP AT THAT POINT? WELL, UH, ONCE IT COMES BEFORE US, WE WILL AGAIN, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND TO THE RESIDENTS.
AND AGAIN, TO MAKE YOUR PRESENTATION, WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS AND THEN WE'LL DECIDE, UH, UH, AND, AND THIS IS THE RECOMMENDING BODY.
SO AFTER THIS, IT'LL GO TO CITY COUNCIL ZONING FOR THEIR FINAL DECISION.
SO IT'S, IT'S, IS IT GONNA BE A SERIES OF CONTINUANCE CONTINUANCE? UH, QUICK QUESTION FOR STAFF.
IF, IF WE DENY ANY, GOES TO COUNCIL ANYWAY, HIS, HE NEEDS A 75% VOTE BY CITY COUNCIL FOR TO BE APPROVED.
IS THAT TRUE? I, I BELIEVE SO.
IT'S ONLY IF HE MEETS THE OPPOSITION THRESHOLD OF 20%.
I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.
UM, AGAIN, I THINK THOSE ARE QUESTIONS THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED OUT OUTSIDE OF THIS TODAY'S PUBLIC HEARING.
I THINK THE CONTINUANCE GIVES A CHANCE TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY AND TO ANSWER SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS.
BUT AGAIN, I'LL LOOK TO MY COMMISSIONERS FOR ANY MOTIONS.
MOTION FOR CONTINUOUS TO AUGUST 23RD.
SO A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ZUKI, UH, FOR CONTINUANCE TO THE AUGUST 23RD PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND SECOND, IS THAT COMMISSIONER MILAM? YES.
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LOPEZ? YES.MOTION PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE.
AND THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING TODAY.
[Approval of Minutes ]
OUR FINAL ITEM ON THE, UH, AGENDA IS OUR MINUTES FROM JULY 26TH.DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CORRECTIONS? UM, I'M GONNA ASK BECAUSE WE HAVE REMOTE, I'M GONNA ASK FOR, UH, A ROLL CALL.
VOTE PLEASE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
UH, MINUTES BY VICE CHAIR PECK.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SCHINDLER, I THINK.
[Director’s Report ]
STAFF UPDATES, DIRECTOR'S REPORT TODAY? NOTHING FOR TODAY.IT IS 3 42 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.