Sep 13, 2023 City Council Budget Work Session

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>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY. IF I CAN ASK YOU HAVE TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE YOUR SEATS, WE'LL CALL OUR CITY COUNCIL BUDGET SESSION TO ORDER.

THE TIME IS 2:06 P.M. ON THE 13TH DAY OF SEPTEMBER, 2023, AND WE ARE NOW -- WE'LL CALL OUR MEETING TO ORDER. MADAM CLERK, COULD YOU

READ THE ROLL? >> CLERK:

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TURN IT OVER TO YOU TO GET US STARTED. >> WALSH: THANKS, MAYOR.

SO JUST TO ORIENT OURSELVES, LAST NIGHT AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED, WE SENT OUT A MEMO THAT CATEGORIZED ISSUES INTO ITEMS THAT WE HEARD CLEAR CONSENSUS ON ONE LIST, AND THAT LIST TOTALED $22.1 MILLION, WHICH WAS STILL $2.1 MILLION OVER THE 20 MILLION. AGAIN, WE'RE BALANCING OVER TWO YEARS, AND THEN A LIST OF SUPPORT ITEMS THAT WE HEARD YESTERDAY, NOT INCLUDED IN THAT 22.1. SO WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON SINCE LAST NIGHT'S MEMO AND THIS MORNING IS TO LAY OUT BEFORE THE COUNCIL AN OPTION ON BUDGET AMENDMENTS THAT INCORPORATES EVERYTHING FROM THE CONSENSUS LIST, AS WELL AS THE SUPPORT LIST. AND THESE ARE MY RECOMMENDATIONS IN TERMS OF ADJUSTMENTS IN ORDER TO STAY WITHIN THE $20 MILLION.

AND WE'VE GOT IT UP ON THE SCREEN, AND YOU'VE GOT IT IN FRONT OF YOU ON THIS ONE PAGE PIECE OF PAPER, AND I'LL WALK THROUGH IT AND INDICATE THE ONES THAT CHANGED AND THE ONES THAT I AM RECOMMENDING ADJUSTMENTS ON THE DOLLAR SIDE IN ORDER TO REMAIN WITHIN THE $20 MILLION.

AND THIS IS A BASIS AND A FOUNDATION FOR YOUR CONVERSATION FOR THE REST OF THE WORK SESSION. NUMBER ONE, EXPAND THREE ESSAY CORE TEAMS TO 24 HOURS, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. THAT'S NO CHANGE FROM YESTERDAY'S CONVERSATION AND LAST NIGHT'S MEMO. THE ACS STOREFRONT FOR SPAY/NEUTER IN TWO PARTS OF THE CITY NEAR D5, D1 AND D7 AND A SECOND ONE IN D2. NO CHANGE TO THAT ITEM. THE BULL LIST TICK CLASS FOR PLIES VEHICLES, NO CHANGE. NUMBER FOUR ON THAT LIST, INCREASE THE NAMP PER COUNCIL DISTRICT BY 100,000.

THAT IS A DECREASE OF $1.5 MILLION FROM LAST NIGHT'S LIST.

COUNCIL DISTRICT'S OFFICES, THAT HAS BEEN REDUCED BY $100,000, PRIMARILY BECAUSE WE HAD IT IN THERE FOR THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, AND SO WE REMOVED IT AFTER CONVERSATIONS WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.

OPPORTUNITY HOME ACCESSIBILITY AND OPERATIONS FUND, NO CHANGE FROM LAST NIGHT. THE CHILDREN'S CRIT, THE CHILDREN'S REHAB INSTITUTE AT A MILLION DOLLARS, NO CHANGE FROM LAST NIGHT.

MORGAN'S WONDERLAND INCLUSION FOUNDATION, THE MILLION DOLLARS THAT WAS

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NUMBER NINE, THE ACCELERATION OF THE ACS PLAN TO GET TO ALL CRITICAL CALLS, I'M RECOMMENDING A CHANGE THERE, ONLY BECAUSE THE PROPOSED BUDGET ALREADY INCLUDES 29 NEW POSITIONS THAT WE NEED TO FILL.

AND WE'VE MADE A LOT OF COMMITMENTS, AND WHILE I UNDERSTOOD THE DESIRE TO GET TO EVERYTHING ALL AT ONCE, LOGISTICALLY, I'M NOT SURE WE CAN DELIVER ON THAT OVER THE COURSE OF ONE YEAR, SO THERE WAS A SUGGESTED CHANGE THERE OF A LITTLE OVER A MILLION DOLLARS, ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE DID WAS WE MOVED -- INSTEAD OF STARTING IN FISCAL YEAR ' '24, WE WOULD DO IT IN FISCAL YEAR '25 FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, STILL ACCELERATING WHAT WAS IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET. THE AIR SERVICE INCENTIVE FUND, UP FROM THE SUPPORT LIST. THE REPRODUCTIVE JUSTICE FUND, NO CHANGE FROM LAST NIGHT'S LIST. THE ASSIST THE DEBT PAYMENT OF CHILD SAFE MOVED UP FROM THE SUPPORT LIST.

THE FLASH -- THE 100 FLASHING STOP SIGNS, THE ADDITIONAL BUDGET TO BEGIN INCORPORATING THAT INTO OUR NORMAL MOVED UP ONTO THE CONSENSUS LIST.

THE URBAN CHAMPIONS ACADEMY, 300,000, MOVED UP.

WE STILL HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY SOFTWARE LICENSE FOR SAPD.

NO CHANGE FROM LAST NIGHT. THE SENIOR ASSISTANCE PILOT PROGRAM, SINCE IT'S A PILOT PROGRAM, WE DID NOT INCLUDE FUNDING IN FISCAL YEAR '25, SO THAT WAS REDUCED BY 100,000. THE DIABETES CONTINUUM MOVED UP TO THE CONSENSUS LIST, AS WELL AS DREAM WEEK, KREGIN INCREASING THEIR BUDGET TO $175 A YEAR OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS.

BIG BROTHERS AND BIG SISTERS WAS ON THE CONSENSUS LIST I SENT LAST NIGHT. THE VFW POST 76 ASSESSMENT MOVED UP ONTO THE CONSENSUS LIST FOR 76. AS WELL AS THE FOOD POLICY COUNCIL FOR THE THREE PILOT SITES AT 60,000.

NOW, THE NEXT TWO ITEMS I'M RECOMMENDING WE FUND OUT OF OUR INFLATION RESERVE, OUT OF THE CAPITAL BUDGET. THAT IS THERE TO OFFSET INCREASES IN INFLATION THAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING IN TERMS OF CONSTRUCTION BIDS. WE WENT OVER THAT BUDGET THIS YEAR.

WE HAVE MONEY SET ASIDE IN FISCAL YEAR '24, SO MY SUGGESTION IS THAT WE USE A MILLION OF THAT TO FUND CUELLAR PARK AND HALF A MILLION TO FUND THE KELLY HERITAGE MATCH THAT'S BEEN REQUESTED. INCREASING -- I'M SORRY, NUMBER 24 ON THAT LIST, THE INCREASES TO THE COUNCIL INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDS, THE PROPOSED BUDGET INCLUDED A MILLION DOLLARS FOR COUNCIL DISTRICT. LAST NIGHT'S LIST INCLUDED TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS, AND I'M RECOMMENDING WE DON'T DO THAT.

THE -- LAST NIGHT'S LIST ALSO HAD PERMANENT CONSTRUCTION MITIGATION GRANTS, IF YOU'LL RECALL, WE'RE PROPOSING TO FUND THAT IN FISCAL YEAR '24 WITH ARPA DOLLARS. LAST NIGHT'S LIST, BECAUSE OF CONVERSATION THAT THE COUNCIL HAD YESTERDAY, WE SET ASIDE $1.4 MILLION FOR THE SECOND YEAR FOR FY '25. I'M RECOMMENDING WE REMOVE THAT FROM THE LIST AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION NEXT YEAR. WE STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE CCR PROCESS AND REVIEW OF THE CCR WE'VE RECEIVED.

AND THEN THE LAST ITEM, THE SMOKE DETECTORS FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, $50,000 OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS, 100 I'M RECOMMENDING, WE REMOVE THAT AND WE FIND ALTERNATIVE SOURCES LIKE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OR DONATIONS, WHICH WE HAVE RELIED ON IN THE PAST TO CONTINUE TO -- THAT EFFORT AT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. SOAL TOLD, THAT GIVES YOU THE BASIS TO BEGIN YOUR CONVERSATION. THIS PROPOSAL IS BALANCED TO THE $20.014 MILLION THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE FOR CONSIDERATION OVER

THE NEXT TWO YEARS. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ERIK. SO, AGAIN, WHERE WE ARE TODAY AFTER HAVING HEARD THE CONVERSATION YESTERDAY, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS VERY GOOD, IS

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THERE'S A FEW AREAS, OBVIOUSLY, THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE OR A LITTLE BIT LESS, BUT THIS DOES REPRESENT, I THINK, A CONSENSUS DOCUMENT. SO I'M IN FULL SUPPORT WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU'RE MAKING AND LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUED CONVERSATION TODAY AS WE END UP TOMORROW IN THE ADOPTION SESSION. SO WE'LL START OUR CONVERSATION AND WE'LL GO WITH COUNCILMEMBER COURAGE.

>> COURAGE: THANK YOU, MAYOR. I REALLY AM IMPRESSED WITH WHAT THE CITY MANAGER HAS PUT FORWARD TO US.

I THINK HE'S TRIED TO TACKLE A LOT OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'VE BROUGHT UP. I DON'T ALWAYS AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT HE HAS ON HIS LIST, SO I WANTED TO RUN THROUGH THIS LISTING MYSELF, AND I'M GOING TO BE LOOKING AT LAST NIGHT'S ATTACHMENTS, 1 AND 2, RATHER THAN WHAT HE'S PUT OUT, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT PLANNING ON.

YOU KNOW, I THINK ALL OF US AGREE WITH NUMBER ONE.

NUMBER TWO, WHICH ON THE LIST FROM LAST NIGHT WAS INCREASING NEIGHBORHOOD ACCESSIBILITY, WE HAD BEEN AS A COUNCIL LOOKING AT ASKING FOR AS MUCH AS $250,000 FOR EACH ADDITIONAL OFFICE, AND HE'S RECOMMENDING DOWN TO 100,000. AND I THINK IT SHOULD BE CLOSER TO 150.

AND THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION, WHICH WOULD MEAN THAT TWO AND A HALF MILLION WOULD BE ONE AND A HALF MILLION CHARGE WITH A SAVINGS OF A MILLION DOLLARS FROM THAT ITEM 2. I WOULD RECOMMEND THE SAME THING FROM ITEM 3. THE INFRASTRUCTURE WE WERE ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS, 250,000, BUT I THINK 150,000 IS REASONABLE. IT WOULD LOWER THAT TWO AND A HALF MILLION TO A MILLION AND A HALF, AGAIN, SAVING AN ADDITIONAL MILLION DOLLARS. SO THERE'S $2 MILLION THERE.

I HAVE NO DISAGREEMENT WITH NUMBER FOUR. WITH NUMBER FIVE, I APPRECIATE WHAT HE'S DONE IN MOVING OVER THE ACS TO NEXT YEAR, THAT 825,000.

I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE KNOW WE'RE PUTTING A LOT OF MONEY INTO ACS RIGHT NOW. WE'VE INCREASED THEIR BUDGET, WE'VE ADDED MORE STAFF MEMBERS THAT ALL NEED TO GO THROUGH TRAINING.

WE'RE OPENING UP TWO ADDITIONAL FACILITIES FOR SPAY AND NEUTERING, SO I THINK IT'S WORTHWHILE FOREGOING BOTH OF THOSE FUNDING UNTIL '25 AND '26. AND IF WE DON'T USE THAT 1,060,000 THAT HE HAD IN '25, THEN THAT SAVES US ANOTHER MILLION OFF OF THIS PROJECTED BUDGET FROM LAST NIGHT. I THINK ON ITEM NUMBER SIX, IT'S ABSOLUTELY IMPORTANT HAVING THE PROTECTION FOR OUR POLICE OFFICERS AND ALL OF THEIR EQUIPMENT; HOWEVER, I DON'T BELIEVE THE FUNDING NEEDS TO COME FROM THIS ONE-TIME ALLOCATION. WE HAVE MONEY AVAILABLE IN RENEWAL AND REPLACEMENT FUND THAT SHOULD BE ALLOCATED FOR THIS.

AND IF WE JUST CONTINUE FORWARD WITH THE 210,000 FOR THIS YEAR, I THINK WE SHOULD REALLOCATE THAT ONE AND A HALF MILLION TO GO THROUGH THE RENEWAL AND REPLACEMENT FUND IN THE FUTURE. THERE'S SOMETHING LIKE A $19 MILLION RESERVE IN THAT FUND TODAY. AND THAT WOULD SAVE, AGAIN, ANOTHER $1 MILLION -- OR EXCUSE ME, A MILLION AND A HALF. SO RIGHT THERE, THAT'S FOUR AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS THAT I THINK WE COULD SAVE FROM LAST NIGHT'S BUDGET THAT WAS SENT TO US. I THINK THE PRINTING AND ENGAGEMENT BUDGET SHOULD BE SET AT 50,000, AND SO I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT.

THAT'S REALLY AN INCREASE FROM 16,000 LAST YEAR TO 50,000.

THAT'S ALMOST A 300% INCREASE. SO I THINK THAT'S PRETTY REASONABLE FOR ALL OF US. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH OPPORTUNITY HOME, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH CHILDREN'S REHAB INSTITUTE, REPRODUCTION JUSTICE CAN STAY. ONE THING I DO HAVE A DISAGREEMENT WITH IS NUMBER 11, THE CELEBRATE PREMIUM TECHNOLOGY.

I'VE BEEN INFORMED THAT TECHNOLOGY ALREADY IS AVAILABLE FOR POLICE DEPARTMENT USE ON A REGULAR BASIS. SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO GO OVER TO USE FBI TO GO AHEAD AND DO THAT, BUT IT'S THERE.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THEY DON'T HAVE OR THAT GETS CUT OFF.

SO IF WE NEED TO INVEST IN THAT TECHNOLOGY TO HAVE IT IN THE POLICE

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SO I WOULD ASK THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER PROVIDING THEM WITH $100,000 ON TOP OF THE APPROVED 72,000, I THINK, THAT'S ALREADY PROGRAMMED FOR THEM. IT GIVES THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THEY ASKED, BUT A LOT LESS THAN WHAT THEY REALLY NEED, AND I THINK THEY PROVIDE A VALUED SERVICE. SO THAT WOULD ACTUALLY INCREASE BY ABOUT $75,000, THE ASK THAT WAS FOR ITEM 13. SO JUST ON THIS FRONT PAGE, THERE'S ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR AND A HALF, AND PROBABLY ANOTHER QUARTER, SO FOUR AND THREE QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS THAT I THINK I WOULD SUPPORT CUTTING. NOW LET'S LOOK AT THE ONES THAT DIDN'T MAKE THE MIX. YOU KNOW, ON THE OTHER SIDE, I THINK MORGAN'S WONDERLAND SHOULD BE ON THERE. THAT'S 100,000.

I THINK THE CREATE THE AIR SERVICE INCENTIVE FUND SHOULD BE ON THERE.

WE'RE LOOKING TO EXPAND AIR SERVICE TO SOUTH AMERICA AND EUROPE AND IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE INCENTIVIZED TO ENTICE SOME OF THOSE AIRLINES TO JOIN WITH US, AND WE HAVE OTHER PARTNERS THAT ARE ALREADY PUTTING MONEY INTO THAT. I THINK IT'S A WORTHY EXPENDITURE.

I THINK WE SHOULD ASSIST CHILD SAFE. THEY PROVIDE ONE OF THE MOST VALUABLE SERVICES, WORKING WITH ABUSED AND NEGLECTED CHILDREN.

SO I BELIEVE THAT'S VERY WORTHY. WE TALKED ABOUT THE 100 FLASHING STOP SIGNS. I THOUGHT IT WAS ALMOST UNANIMOUS AGREEMENT THAT THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD INCLUDE. THE URBAN CHAMPION'S ACADEMY, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF. THE INCREASED ALLOCATION FOR DREAM WEEK, I THINK, THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT, AND EXPAND THAT AS A GROWING SIGNIFICANT EVENT IN OUR COMMUNITY.

I SUPPORT THE VFW POST, I SUPPORT THE FOOD POLICY COUNCIL, URBAN FARMING.

NOW, IF YOU ADD ALL OF THAT UP, IT'S A BIT OVER -- LET'S SEE, WELL, LET ME PULL OUT MY NUMBERS HERE. WE'RE REDUCING THE ORIGINAL ASK BY ALMOST $5 MILLION FROM 22 MILLION TO ABOUT 16 EIGHT, ALMOST 17 MILLION WITH THE SUGGESTIONS I MADE.

AND THAT LEAVES TWO, ALMOST 3 MILLION OVER AND ABOVE WHAT WAS IN THE BUDGET -- OR THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WAS SENT TO US LAST NIGHT.

NOW, ADMITTEDLY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 20 MILLION, BUT IF WE APPROVE SIMPLY WHAT THE CITY MANAGER HAD SENT US LAST NIGHT, WE WOULD HAVE BEEN SPENDING 22 MILLION. I THINK I'VE REDUCED THIS DOWN TO ABOUT 17 MILLION -- ABOUT 3 MILLION BACK IN THERE, SO I THINK WE STILL HAVE 2 MILLION THAT WE OUGHT TO BE CONSIDERING, AND I THINK THAT WOULD MEET SOME OF THE OTHER ASKS THAT WERE ON HERE. FOR EXAMPLE, CUELLAR PARK, BUT I APPRECIATE THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THE CITY MANAGER HAS MADE ABOUT ALTERNATIVE FUNDING SOURCES FOR EVEN THAT PARK.

BUT THESE ARE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I WOULD ASK COUNCILMEMBERS TO CONSIDER AS WE LOOK AT THESE, AND I THINK THAT WE CAN PUT ALL OF THIS TOGETHER PRETTY CLOSE TO THE 22 MILLION AND I THINK THAT'S AVAILABLE TO US. I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CITY MANAGER SAID, BUT IF WE WORK WITH SOME OF HIS OTHER SOURCES OF FUNDING THAT HE SAID ARE AVAILABLE, I THINK ALL OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS SHOULD BE GOING THROUGH.

AND ALMOST ALL OF THEM ARE PRETTY MUCH WHAT I'VE SUPPORTED AS THE CITY MANAGER'S SUPPORTED. IT'S JUST PUTTING A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY IN A FEW OF THE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE IN OUR CITY OFFICES, SO THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO PRESENT, MAYOR. THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER COURAGE.

ERIK, DID YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR JUST KEEP MOVING? THERE WAS A MENTION OF R & R. IS THAT POSSIBLE?

>> WALSH: WELL, IT'S -- ON THE GLASS, WE'RE EITHER GOING TO PAY NOW OR WE'RE GOING TO PAY LATER. WE'LL CUT SOMETHING OUT OF THE -- OUT OF THE -- OUT OF THE PROCUREMENT OR ELSEWHERE IN THE GENERAL

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SO WE'LL EITHER CHARGE EVERYBODY -- WHEN I SAY CHARGE EVERYBODY, CHARGE THE DEPARTMENTS MORE, WHICH MEANS THE GENERAL FUND MORE.

IT'S A NUANCE, AND I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT WE DO HAVE TO PAY FOR IT

SOMEWHERE. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER COURAGE. COUNCILMEMBER ROCHA

GARCIA? >> GARCIA: THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I JUST WANT TO START OFF BY THANKING ERIK FOR TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THIS LAST -- YESTERDAY WE WENT BACK AND MY TEAM THIS MORNING REVIEWED THE TWO HOUR AND A HALF SESSION, AND SO I KNOW THAT WE DON'T COUNT, BUT THERE WAS SOME DISCREPANCIES, AND SO THANK YOU FOR WILLING TO BRING THAT UP. AND SO -- AND ADD SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT WERE LEFT OFF, I APPRECIATE THAT. I'M STILL ADVOCATING FOR THE KELLY HERITAGE MUSEUM SPECIFICALLY, IT'S THE AIAIRMEN MUSEUM, AND THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS ASKED BEFORE THE PANDEMIC HAPPENED.

THEY HAD COME. THEY WITHDREW THEIR REQUEST SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE THEY KNEW THAT THE COMMUNITY HAD LARGER NEEDS, SO I THOUGHT OF THEM AS -- TO ME, LIKE THEY WERE REALLY NICE, RIGHT, TO DO THAT AND SAY, GO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS. THEY'RE BACK, THEY'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A FUNDRAISING PLAN, ET CETERA.

AND SO THIS IS WHY I -- I'LL CONTINUE TO PUSH FOR THAT.

THAT'S MY THOUGHT IS THAT WE NEED TO INVEST IN OUR LOCAL MILITARY HISTORY.

WE ALWAYS SAY THAT WE'RE MILITARY CITY USA, BUT WE HAVEN'T REALLY DONE TOO MUCH IN THIS BUDGET TO FOCUS ON THAT. SO THIS IS JUST ME, AGAIN, JUST PUTTING MY TWO CENTS FOR THAT. I DO HAVE QUESTIONS FOR SHANNON ON THE AC S-3-YEAR PLAN AND SO OUR INTENTION IS TO ADDRESS THE CAUSE ASAP AND I APPRECIATE ERIK PUTTING THIS INTO THE SECOND PART. WE HAD A CONVERSATION EARLIER AS YOU ALL PROBABLY KNOW, THE APPOINTEE FOR D4 IS THE CHAIR OF ACS.

WE CALLED HER AND HAD THE CONVERSATION CAN WE DO THIS IMMEDIATELY.

IT SOUNDED LIKE EVEN WHEN THE STAFFING LEVELS, IF WE ADDED SOME ADDITIONAL POSITIONS, IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME TO HIRE ANYWAY, RIGHT? AND SO I WOULDN'T WANT TO TIE UP THAT MONEY. SO I DIDN'T CALL YOU UP YESTERDAY, SHANNON, BUT WHAT WOULD YOU THINK OF THAT? LIKE SO STAFFING, CAN YOU DO THAT? CAN YOU USE ALL THOSE POSITIONS? I MEAN, I'M SURE YOU CAN USE ALL THOSE POSITIONS.

BUT DON'T THEY REQUIRE, LIKE, ALSO VEHICLES, LIKE TELL ME WHAT ELSE IT REQUIRES. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SENSITIVE TO

WHAT YOU NEED. >> YES, COUNCILWOMAN. THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE QUESTION. THERE ARE THREE MAIN ASPECTS THAT WE'VE REALLY LOOKED AT WHEN WE CONSIDER PLUSSING UP THAT ADDITIONAL 14 OFFICERS OR MOVING THAT CAPABILITY FORWARD. FIRST AND FOREMOST IS TRAINING CAPACITY. WE KNOW THAT RIGHT NOW WE'RE ALREADY GETTING -- SO WE WOULD HAVE TO TRAIN 29 ADDITIONAL OFFICERS EVEN IF WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY FALL OUT DUE TO, YOU KNOW THEY COULDN'T CUT THE ACADEMY OR FOLKS GET PROMOTED, FOLKS FIND NEW JOBS. WE WOULD HAVE TO TRAIN ABOUT ROUGHLY 35 TO 40 OFFICERS IN THIS COMING YEAR, WHICH WOULD BE EXCEPTIONALLY DIFFICULT. SECOND PIECE OF IT, EVEN IF WE COULD GET ALL OF THOSE OFFICERS UP RUNNING IN THE FIELD, WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE KIND OF PREORDERED THE VEHICLES TO FACILITATE THE FULL THREE-YEAR PLAN.

THOSE VEHICLES AREN'T ANTICIPATED TO BE IN FOR ROUGHLY 18 MONTHS.

SO WE WOULD HATE TO HAVE RESOURCES READY, TRAINED AND READY TO GO, BUT NOT BEING ABLE TO GET OUT IN THE FIELD IN A VEHICLE. AND THE THIRD MAJOR ASPECT THAT WE WANT TO KEEP IN MIND IS JUST CAPACITY OF THE SHELTER ITSELF. IF WE'RE -- YOU KNOW, THIS WOULD BASICALLY BE 17,000 ADDITIONAL ANIMALS THAT WE WOULD BE IMPOUNDING EVERY SINGLE YEAR, 21 OFFICERS. WITHOUT OUR ABILITY TO ALSO EXPAND OUR LIVE RELEASE CAPABILITIES OUR TREATMENT CAPABILITIES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THIS COULD DECREASE OUR LIVE RELEASE RATE FROM 80% RIGHT NOW DOWN TO SOMEWHERE IN THE 50S.

THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT DECREASE AND WE MAY EVEN HAVE TO CHANGE OUR HOLD TIMES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE TO THE STATE REQUIREMENT, WHICH IS ONLY TWO DAYS. THAT'S CLEARLY SOMETHING THAT IS A HOT BUTTON ISSUE, AND SO THOSE ARE KIND OF THE THREE MOST RELEVANT ASPECTS THAT WE

WERE TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION. >> GARCIA: SURE.

>> WALSH: AND I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD, THE OTHER ASPECT OF IT, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT SHANNON'S BUDGET PRESENTATION, IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, WE SET ASIDE MONEY FOR AN ADDITIONAL TEMPORARY -- WE'RE CALLING IT TEMPORARY, IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE THERE A WHILE, KENNEL SPACE OUT THERE. PART OF THAT PHASING, NOT ONLY FROM A LOGISTICS AND TRAINING AND HIRING STANDPOINT, WAS TOO BUILD THAT SO WE'VE GOT THAT CAPACITY. NUMBER TWO, AND I'LL ACCENTUATE WHAT HE SAID, WE ARE SETTING ASIDE MONEY IN THE PROPOSED

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BUT I'M -- I'M -- COUNCILMAN MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ SAID SOMETHING YESTERDAY AND I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH HIM, IT IS UNTENABLE THAT WE HAVE A 44% RESPONSE RATE. IF THE COUNCIL APPROVES IT, I'M NOT SURE LOGISTICALLY WE'RE GOING TO BE AT 100%.

IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT TO HIRE 40 PEOPLE. >> GARCIA: SURE.

LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHING. THERE'S APPARENTLY A PROGRAM WITHIN ACS THAT GOES OUT AND TALKS TO PEOPLE ABOUT HOW TO CARE FOR ANIMALS, THEY PROVIDE KENNELS IF THERE'S A KENNEL NEEDED.

I DON'T KNOW TOO MUCH ABOUT THAT, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT MIGHT BE A BRIDGE SOLUTION, RIGHT? LIKE MAYBE IF WE FUND SOME ADDITIONAL, IS IT POSSIBLE TO CONSIDER THAT? LIKE TELL ME HOW THAT

WORKS. >> SO YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE CASA PROGRAM, COMMUNITY ANIMAL SUPPORT AND ASSISTANCE, THESE FOLKS ARE STILL ACOS, WE DO STILL TRAIN THEM AND CERTIFY THEM AS ACOS, BUT THEY'RE ALSO FROM A SOCIAL WORKER ASPECT. SO THEY'RE GOING OUT THERE AND JUST CONDUCTING ENFORCEMENT, THEY'RE TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT CAN THEY DO TO HELP OWNERS THAT MAY BE OUT OF COMPLIANCE, HOW DO WE HELP THOSE FOLKS COME INTO COMPLIANCE AND REMAIN IN COMPLIANCE SO THAT WE DON'T SEE THE RECIDIVISM THAT WE'VE TRADITION LYCINE WHERE WE GO TO THE SAME HOUSE OVER AND OVER AND OVER. THERE IS STILL A TRAINING ASPECT OF IT.

CLEARLY WE WOULD STILL HAVE TO TRAIN THOSE INDIVIDUALS AS OFFICERS, BUT THAT IS -- THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED IN THAT THREE-YEAR PLAN. AND IF MEMORY SERVES THAT, IS PART OF THE YEAR

2 ROLLOUT IS IMPROVEMENTS TO THE CASA PROGRAM. >> GARCIA: GOT IT.

MAYBE THE MARKETING OF THAT PROGRAM IN PARTICULAR SHOULD ALSO BE SOMETHING THAT WE CONSIDER TO FOCUS A LITTLE BIT MORE OF.

BUT THEN, ERIK, I HAVE A QUESTION, AND MY OFFICE USES A LOT OF PRINT MATERIAL, RIGHT? AND SO WE KIND OF MAKE IT WORK BECAUSE WE HAVE, LIKE, SOME SET BUDGETEDS, ET CETERA. LIKE IS THERE -- CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND, LIKE HOW CAN WE -- WE ARE ALLOWED TO KIND OF SHUFFLE WITHIN OUR OWN CITY COUNCIL BUDGETS TO USE SOME ADDITIONAL PRINT, CORRECT? THAT'S KIND OF UP TO OUR DISCRETION? BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE ALL HAVE CARRY FORWARD FUNDS AT THE END.

HELP ME UNDERSTAND THAT A LITTLE BIT BETTER. >> WALSH: YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. YOU HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY WITHIN YOUR OFFICE BUDGETS, AND NOT EVERY DISTRICT'S THE SAME. I THINK EVERYBODY DOES IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY. AND SO THOSE ACCOMMODATIONS ARE ALWAYS THERE AND COUNCILMAN COURAGE IS RIGHT, WE DID INCREASE THAT BUDGET IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET BY 50%? SO IT -- YOU KNOW, IT DEPENDS ON HOW YOU OPERATE YOUR BUDGET.

>> GARCIA: SURE. >> WALSH: SOME ARE DOING A LOT OF PRINTING, SOME ARE DOING DIFFERENT TYPES OF ENGAGEMENT, IT WILL BE UP TO YOUR INDIVIDUAL

OFFICES. >> GARCIA: GOT IT. THANK YOU.

IN FULL DISCLOSURE, MY CHIEF OF STAFF DOES ALL OF OUR OFFICE BUDGETING.

SO HE MAKES IT WORK AND HE'S BEEN OUT FOR A MONTH AND A HALF.

>> WALSH: YOU HAD A BIG TURNOUT AT YOUR CITY HALL SO SOMETHING WORKS.

>> GARCIA: I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT CAN WE USE AND WHAT ARE WE OKAY TO... AND THEN I LOVE THE SENIOR ASSISTANCE PILOT PROGRAM. AND I WOULD CONTINUE TO BE SUPPORTIVE.

I WOULD PROBABLY -- AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE CONVERSATION.

I KNOW -- I'M NOT GOING TO STEAL COUNCILWOMAN'S THUNDER, BUT I WANT TO SEE HER IDEAS ON THAT AS WELL. AND THEN IF WE HAVE -- AND SO OF COURSE THE VFW, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SUPPORT, THE VFW POST 76 FOR THAT ONE-TIME COST. THANK YOU SO MUCH, ERIK, FOR ADDING THE DIABETES CONTINUUM, THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ HAS DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB OF KEEPING THAT AT THE FOREFRONT.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE 100 FLASHING STOP SIGNS IS IMPORTANT TO ME.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION ON THE FUND FOR THE -- FUNDS FOR TELETON USA.

WHAT EXACTLY IS IT FOR A BUILDING? IT'S NOT A BUILDING.

WHAT IS IT, CAN SOMEONE REMIND ME WHAT IT'S FOR? OPERATIONAL, IS THAT WHAT

I HEAR? SORRY. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION, COUNCILWOMAN. SO IT'S ACTUALLY FOR OPERATIONAL FUNDING FOR SOCIAL SERVICES PROGRAMS THAT HELP SUPPORT THE CHILDREN AND THE FAMILIES WHILE THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THE REHABILITATION PROCESS.

>> GARCIA: OKAY. WONDERFUL. THANK YOU.

AND THEN I -- I LOOK FORWARD TO THE DISCUSSION THAT COUNCILMAN MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ WILL DRIVE ON THE DREAM WEEK AS WELL, BECAUSE I'D LOVE TO GET HIS INPUT ON THAT SINCE THAT'S BUN OF THE EFFORTS HE LEADS.

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THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER ROCHA GARCIA. AND JUST IF I MAY INTERJECT, IF EVERYBODY CAN REACT TO ERIK'S MEMO, THAT WAY WE'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT THE SAME AMENDMENTS. THAT WILL GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTINUITY IN THE CONVERSATION RATHER THAN BEING RANDOM IN TERMS OF THE ITEMS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

COUNCILME COUNCILMEMBER GAVITO. I SAY THAT BECAUSE IF YOU'LL NOTE ALL OF THE ITEMS ON THE ATTACHMENT ON YOUR DESK ARE NOW FUNDED, A COUPLE THROUGH ALTERNATIVE FUNDING STREAMS, SO IT WOULD BE

HELPFUL TO WORK FROM THAT. >> GAVITO: THANK YOU, MAYOR. FIRST AND FOREMOST I WANTED TO THANK THE CITY MANAGER AND THE ENTIRE TEAM FOR THIS DOCUMENT AND ALL THE WORK.

I DO THINK THAT THE MAYOR'S RIGHT, YESTERDAY WE DID HAVE A SPIRIT OF COLLABORATION, AND I THINK IT'S REFLECTED IN THIS DOCUMENT, SO I KNOW IT WASN'T EASY, SO THANK Y'ALL FOR ALL THE WORK. I'M JUST GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS REALLY QUICKLY, AND, YES, MAYOR, I'M GOING THROUGH THE LATEST AND GREATEST VERSION. SO WITH THE EXPANSION OF THE CORE TEAMS, YOU KNOW, I THINK I MENTIONED IT YESTERDAY, AND I'M GOING TO MENTION IT AGAIN TODAY, 24/7 COVERAGE IS IMPORTANT BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO HAVE COVERAGE FOR THE PEAK CALL VOLUME TIMES, SO WHETHER THAT IS ADDING A FOURTH CORE TEAM OR WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, IT IS NOT ONLY 24/7, BUT IT IS ALSO THE ABILITY TO HANDLE CALLS AT THE PEAK CALL VOLUME TIME. FOR THE NUMBER TWO, FOR THE ACS STOREFRONTS FOR SPAY AND NEUTER, I'M REALLY HAPPY TO COLLABORATE WITH COUNCILWOMAN TAAS 83 OWE AND COUNCILWOMAN KAUR BECAUSE FOR THE STOREFRONT THAT SAYS FOR DISTRICT FIVE AND 7, IT WOULD ALSO BORDER COUNCIL DISTRICT ONE WHERE BANDERA AND CULEBRA CONVERGE. THAT IS A HUGE HOT SPOT FOR THESE LOOSE AND DANGEROUS DOGS, AND SO I THINK IF ALL THREE DISTRICTS -- IF THE RESIDENTS OF ALL THREE OF OUR DISTRICTS CAN BENEFIT, THAT'S A WIN FOR ALL OF US, AS WELL AS FOR DISTRICT TWO HAVING A SPAY/NEUTER STOREFRONT.

WHICH KNOW THAT THESE STOREFRONTS CAN DO 35 TO 50 SPAY AND NEUTERS A DAY, SO THIS IS GOING TO MAKE A SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS TOWARDS GETTING ALL OF THESE ANIMALS FIXED AND PREVENT US FROM EUTHANIZING THEM LATER.

FOR THE BALLISTIC GLASS NUMBER THREE, I DID HAVE A QUESTION, ERIK.

I SEE THAT 210,000 ALLOCATED FOR TWO 2024 AND THEN 1.5 FOR 2025, WHAT WAS THE REASON FOR PUSHING A MAJORITY OF THAT FUNDING BACK? AND THE REASON I'M ASKING IS I THINK ALL OF US WOULD -- WELL, I'LL SPEAK FOR MYSELF, I WOULD WANT TO ACCELERATE THE SPENDING OF THAT SO THAT

OUR POLICE OFFICERS ARE SAFE. >> VILLAGOMEZ: SURE.

SO WHAT WE HAVE STARTED THE PROCESS OF PROCUREMENT ARE FOR SPECIALTY UNITS IS FOR SWAT AND STREET CRIMES. WE ANTICIPATE WE'RE GOING TO SPEND THAT $210,000 EARLY IN FISCAL YEAR 2024.

NOW, THE PLAN FOR THE PATROL VEHICLES, OUR PLAN IS TO REPLACE THEM ALL.

AND THE BEST WAY TO DO IT IS WHEN THEY'RE DUE FOR REPLACEMENT.

WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OVER 700 PATROL VEHICLES, SO THE PLAN IS THAT ROUGHLY ABOUT EVERY YEAR, WE REPLACE 200 PATROL VEHICLES.

AT THE TIME THAT WE PURCHASE THEM, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND INSTALL THIS BALLISTIC GLASS. SO THAT'S THE REASON WE HAVE THAT 1.5 MILLION IN 2025, BECAUSE WE'LL ORDER THE VEHICLES IN 2024 WITH DELIVERY FOR '25.

>> WALSH: SO THE 210 IS RETROFITTING SOME VEHICLES IMMEDIATELY.

>> GAVITO: SO IT'S REALLY COMING DOWN TO OPERATIONS AND LOGISTICS?

>> VILLAGOMEZ: YES, MA'AM. >> GAVITO: GOT IT.

INCREASING NAMP, I DO AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN COURAGE ANYTHING WE CAN DO IN FINE WIGGLE ROOM THERE, ALL DISTRICTS ARE HIT UP WITH SO MANY INFRASTRUCTURE REQUESTS, I WOULDN'T MIND SEEING THAT INCREASE.

THE PRINTING BUDGET, NUMBER FIVE. I JUST GOT FINISHED CAMPAIGNING AND I KNOCKED ON OVER 4,000 DOORS MYSELF.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HEARD FROM SO MANY RESIDENTS IS THEY DON'T HEAR FROM THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS' OFFICE, LIKE, HEY, WHAT IS COUNCIL DOING AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. WE WERE PUSHING HARD ON THIS ONE SO THAT WE CAN NOT ONLY COMMUNICATE THROUGH OUR DIGITAL NEWSLETTER BUT ALSO THE PHYSICAL NEWSLETTERS AS WELL.

WE KNOW THAT OBVIOUSLY ALL OF OUR COUNCIL DISTRICTS HAVE DIFFERENT AGES, SOME HAVE MORE OF A DIGITAL DIVIDE THAN OTHERS, SO WE WERE PUSHING ON THIS PRINT BUDGET SO THAT WAY WE COULD COMMUNICATE WITH OUR RESIDENTS. NUMBER SIX, OPPORTUNITY HOME.

I'M IN SUPPORT OF, SEVEN, CRIT, I'M IN SUPPORT OF. AND ALSO NUMBER EIGHT FOR

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NUMBER NINE, YES, I'M DEFINITELY DISAPPOINTED. I TOTALLY AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ THAT EVEN A 64% RESPONSE RATE IS UNACCEPTABLE, BUT I DO UNDERSTAND, SHANNON, TO YOUR POINT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SCALE AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SCALE WITH QUALITIMENT SO QUALITY. SO WHILE THIS IS NOT IDEAL, I UNDERSTAND IT.

THERE IS NO USE FOR THE FUNDS SITTING THERE IF IT'S NOT -- IF IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK FOR US. SO, YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE TO GO FROM THERE.

NUMBER 10, I AGREE WITH THE AIR SERVICE INCENTIVE FUND.

I'M FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE NUMBER 11, THE REPRODUCTIVE JUSTICE FUND. YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN LEGALLY DO FROM A REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH PERSPECTIVE . TO ME THIS ITEM IS NOT ABOUT ABORTION, IT'S LITERALLY ABOUT REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH AND IT'S AN IMPORTANT ASPECT AND COMPONENT OF WOMEN'S BODIES, SO I DON'T -- I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I'M FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT ONE. NUMBER 12, IN SUPPORT OF CHILD SAFE. NUMBER 13, I DO THINK IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, THE 100 FLASHING STOP SIGNS. I'M NOT SURE WHICH COUNCILMEMBER BROUGHT THAT UP, BUT IT -- WE'RE ALL SEEING SPEEDING THROUGHOUT ALL OF OUR DISTRICTS, SO I THINK THAT THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

I'M IN SUPPORT OF THE URBAN CHAMPIONS ACADEMY. 15 SELL BRIGHT, HOWEVER WE FIND THAT FUNDING, I DO THINK IT IS AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT.

NUMBER 16, THE SENIOR ASSISTANCE PILOT PROGRAM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE SUPPORT THAT I'VE HEARD FROM MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES.

THIS IS IMPORTANT TO ASSISTING OUR SENIOR CITIZENS AND ALSO DISABLED RESIDENTS IN CASES OF OVERGROWN GRASS.

THIS DOES TIE INTO THE SOCIAL DETERMINE NANS OF HEALTH.

I LOOK FORWARD TO DEPARTMENTING WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND ALSO EACH OF MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES AS WE'RE BRINGING THIS CCR TO LIFE, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE SUPPORT THERE.

I AM IN SUPPORT OF NUMBER 17, THE DIABETES CONTINUUM AND THE INSULIN COST SHARE PROGRAM. IN SUPPORT OF DREAM WEEK, SUPPORT OF BIG BROTHERS - BIG SISTERS TO MAINTAIN THEIR CURRENT LEVEL OF FUNDING.

I TH THEY DID A GREAT JOB OF ADVOCATING RECENTLY.

SUPPORT OF 21, FOOD POLICY COUNCIL. I KNOW THAT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. AND THEN THE CUELLAR AND KELLY HERITAGE FOUNDATION, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY, THEY'RE GOING TO GET FUNDED, JUST THROUGH OTHER BUCKETS OF MONEY. IS THAT RIGHT?

>> WALSH: YES, MA'AM. >> GAVITO: OKAY. THAT'S ALL.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER

ALDERETE GAVITO. COUNCILMEMBER CASTILLO. >> CASTILLO: THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, ERIK AND TEAM FOR ALL YOUR WORK ON THIS PROPOSED BUDGET. WITH THE CIP, IS THAT BEING REMOVED OR IT IS

JUST NOT INCLUDED ON ATTACHMENT 1. >> WALSH: WHAT I WENT

OVER, IT REMOVES IT. >> CASTILLO: OKAY. YEAH, AND THAT GIVES ME GREAT CONCERN WHEN I LOOK AT OUR SCIENTIFIC BUDGET SURVEY THAT WE CONDUCTED FOR CITY SERVICES WITH THE GREATEST NEEDS. NUMBER ONE IS STREETS.

NUMBER THREE IS SIDEWALKS. AND NUMBER FOUR IS STREET LIGHTING. FURTHER, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE NEEDS RATING FOR CITY SERVICES, NUMBER ONE IS STREETS, NUMBER THREE IS SIDEWALKS AND THEN, OF COURSE, NUMBER FOUR IS STREET LIGHTING. WHEN WE ALSO LOOK FOR THE TOP PRIORITIES, FOR INVESTMENT FOR CITY SERVICES BASED ON PRIORITY INVESTMENT, STREETS IS NUMBER TWO FOR HIGHEST PRIORITY.

FOR HIGH PRIORITY SIDEWALKS IS ONE, AND STREET LIGHTING IS FOUR.

SO I JUST DON'T THINK WE'D BE DOING A GREAT SERVICE FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS BY REMOVING THE CIP FROM THE PROPOSED BUDGET, BUT I DO SEE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO SHIFT SOME THINGS AROUND TO SUPPORT THAT, BUT I'M HESITANT WITH FULLY REMOVING CIP, GIVEN THE GREAT INFRASTRUCTURE NEED. FURTHER, I'M REALLY PLEASED TO SEE THAT CREATING AN OPPORTUNITY HOME ACCESSIBILITY FUND IS INCLUDED.

ADDITIONAL FUNDING THROUGH CDBG FUNDING? >> WALSH: COUNCILWOMAN, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT AND I THINK WE NEED TO DO SOME RESEARCH. I WOULD THINK THAT THERE WOULD BE A POSSIBILITY TO DO THAT, AND AS THE COUNCIL KNOWS, YOU'VE APPROVED THE CDBG BUDGET OVER THE SUMMER, BUT THERE ARE MULTIPLE TIMES DURING THE YEAR WHEN WE COME BACK FOR REALLOCATIONS. SO WE CAN DO THE RESEARCH IN THAT AND SEE IF THAT'S AN ELIGIBLE EXPENSE AND PROVIDE THAT AS AN OPTION

ZERO FOR YOU GUYS. >> CASTILLO: GREAT. I THINK THERE'S ALSO OPPORTUNITY WITH THE REMAINING HOUSING FUND DOLLARS TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SUPPORT, IF IT FITS WITHIN THE HOUSING BOND PARAMETERS AS WELL.

AND ALSO LOOKING AT THE CITY OF D.C. WHO THEIR CITY GOVERNMENT ADOPTED A

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>> WALSH: IT WAS 15. >> CASTILLO: 15. AND IT SEEMS LIKE MORGAN'S WONDERLAND IS THE ONLY -- NOT THE ONLY, IT'S ONE OF THE FEW -- OPPORTUNITY TO REDUCE THAT TO $500,000, REALLOCATE THE REMAINING 500 TO SUPPORT YEAR 2 OF THE REPRODUCTIVE JUSTICE FUND, AND THEN EXPLORE VISIT SA, THE TPID OR ONE OF THE INNER CITY TIRZ TO FILL THAT GAP TO MAKE IT WHOLE. IS THAT SOMETHING CITY STAFF CAN LOOK AT?

>> WALSH: THAT LAST PART, I'M NOT SURE IF IT QUALIFIES.

>> CASTILLO: OKAY. >> WALSH: I DON'T KNOW IF VSA OR TPID WOULD QUALIFY

FOR THAT CONTRIBUTION. >> CASTILLO: AND I KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME ITEMS OUTSIDE OF THE WEST SIDE TIRZ COME TO THE TIRZ BASED OFF OF STAFF RECOMMENDATION, IS THERE OPPORTUNITY FOR A TIRZ TO POTENTIALLY EXPLORE

FUNDING THE REMAINING 500,000. >> WALSH: I DON'T KNOW.

WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT. I DON'T -- I THINK THIS WAS A STRAIGHT CONTRIBUTION AS IT WAS DESCRIBED BY COUNCILMAN

WHYTE'S MEMO TOWARDS THE CONSTRUCTION OF A HOTEL. >> CASTILLO: YEAH, AND WHEN I READ THE MEMO, IT HIGHLIGHTED IN THE HOT TAX, SO JUST MAKING SURE -- AND I UNDERSTAND THERE'S ORDINANCE AND RESTRICTIONS THERE.

>> WALSH: THERE WERE TWO THINGS. I'M SORRY.

GO AHEAD. >> CASTILLO: NO, JUST NOTING, RIGHT, IT WAS HIGHLIGHTED HOT WITHIN THE AMENDMENT. AND THEN I WANTED TO BE SURE, RIGHT, WITH THE SELL BRIGHT PREMIUM I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WHILE PD HAS THIS SOFTWARE, IT HAS LIMITATIONS.

SO AFTER A CERTAIN POINT, THEY'VE USED ALL OF -- I'LL SAY THE POINTS, RIGHT, AND THEN OUR DETECTIVES HAVE TO DELEGATE TO HOMELAND SECURITY AND FBI. WHEN WE DO IT IN-HOUSE, I'VE BEEN BRIEFED THAT IT TAKES SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR WHEN WE HAVE TO GO TO HOME LABD OR SECURITY OR THE FBI, IT CAN LOOK LIKE TWO EYES. YEARS. IT CAN BE TWO YEARS OF JUSTICE FOR VICTIM AND CRIMINALS NOT BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE.

I WANT TO CONTINUE SUPPORT THE SELL BRIGHT PREMIUM TECHNOLOGY.

I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE DIRECT SUPPORT FOR THE DIABETES CONTINUUM INSULIN PROGRAM AS WELL AS FUNDING THE KELLY HERITAGE MUSEUM.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WE'RE GOING TO LOOK FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR

THE KELLY HERITAGE FOUNDATION. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: WHILE ERIK IS -- THERE'S MONEY IN THE INFLATION FUND SET ASIDE FOR ALL CAP DAL PRODUCTS. I'M SORRY, COUNCILWOMAN, WHAT WAS THE QUESTION.

>> CASTILLO: THE QUESTION WAS FOR THE KELLY HERITAGE FOUNDATION THAT WE'D IDENTIFY FUNDING ELSEWHERE TO SUPPORT THAT, CORRECT?

>> WALSH: OUT OF OUR INFLATION RESERVE FOR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.

>> CASTILLO: OKAY. THAT'S GREAT. I WANTED TO ALSO EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR THE D1, 7 AND 5 STOREFRONT. I THINK IT'S A REALLY CRITICAL CORRIDOR AND I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO HIGHLIGHT THAT DECOMMISSION FIRE STATION THAT'S RIGHT AT THE CORNER OF THE INTERSECTION OF ALL THREE OF US, AND I THINK THAT'S A GREAT LOCATION, RIGHT OFF OF THE INTERSTATE SO FOLKS FROM DIFFERENT DISTRICTS CAN COME BY AND UTILIZE THOSE SERVICES AS WELL. AND I THINK WITH -- IN REGARDS TO SA-CORE, I THINK THIS IS FANTASTIC TO SEE; HOWEVER, WITH THE MIDYEAR BUDGET, I'D LIKE FOR US TO EXPLORE POTENTIALLY ADDING ADDITIONAL TEAM MEMBERS. THOSE ARE ALL MY COMMENTS.

THANK YOU. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER CASTILLO. COUNCILMEMBER MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ?

>> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND, YOU KNOW, AGREEING WITH THE MAYOR, WE DO HAVE TO PIVOT, AND SO I'M LOOKING AT THIS DOCUMENT, AND IT'S -- I'LL SAY THE SECOND TIME I'VE SEEN -- OR THE FIRST TIME I'VE SEEN THIS HAD CONVERSATION ABOUT IT, RIGHT, BUT THE REALITY IS, WE HAVE TO FIND CUTS IF WE WANT TO ADD MORE, RIGHT? WE'RE LOOKING AT A WHOLE BUNCH OF THINGS THAT YESTERDAY WERE WERE IDEALISTIC ABOUT AND THERE HAS BEEN A SPIRIT OF COLLABORATION.

IF THIS WERE TO BE THE FINAL BUDGET, I CAN CONFIDENTLY SAY WITH THE PROPOSED BUDGET AND WITH THESE AMENDMENTS, I'M -- DISTRICT TWO, WE'RE WINNING. I'M HAPPY. I'M GOOD.

THERE ARE SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR GROWTH AND IMPROVEMENT, OF COURSE, SO THERE'S A FEW THINGS THAT I WILL WANT TO SAY.

I WILL EXPRESS FOR NUMBER ONE, I'M EXCITED TO EXPAND THE SA-CORE TEAM TO 24/7. WHAT I WOULD BE INTERESTED NSF THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT MAYBE -- AND MIGHT THIS GHOIRVEGHTS NIESMGHTS.

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THE STOREFRONT FOR SPAY/NEUTER IN 5, 1, 7 AND 2, D2, I'M THE ONLY ONE ON THE EAST SIDE. I'VE ALWAYS GOT TO FIGHT A LITTLE BIT HARDER, BUT I'M GLAD IT'S THERE. I AM EXCITED I WAS NOT LEFT OUT OF THIS.

I'M EXCITED. I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE GREAT FOR THE DISTRICT. I WILL SAY FOR THE NAMP ALLOCATION OF 100K, OR THE ADDITION OF 100K, I'M WONDER -- I WOULD PREFER IT GO TO CIP.

CIP HAS BEEN MUCH MORE FLEXIBLE OF A FUNDING SOURCE FOR ME, AND SO I WOULD MUCH RATHER USE THAT THERE RATHER THAN NAMP.

YOU COULD FUND NANP PROJECTS WITH CIP TION, BUT NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. I'M ALSO DOWN FOR AN INCREASE THERE.

I THINK FROM THE JUMP AT THE VERY FIRST GOAL-SETTING SESSION, I THINK THERE WERE A SOLID AMOUNT OF US WHO SAID WE WANT MORE CIP AND MORE NAMP, AND THAT'S BEEN VERY CONSISTENT SINCE, SO IF THERE'S OPPORTUNITY FOR GROWTH, I THINK WE SHOULD PRIORITIZE THAT. I THINK WE ALL AGREE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS ARE GREAT AND WE WANT AN OPPORTUNITY TO INFLUENCE FASTER PROJECTS. PRINTING AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, I'LL BE TRANSPARENT WITH Y'ALL. I USE MY CARRY FORWARD FOR MY NEWSLETTER.

IT'S MONTHLY, IT HITS $10,000, I CAN EASILY SPEND EIGHT TO 10K ON A SINGLE NEWSLETTER, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR ME TO HAVE A FUND LIKE THIS, AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE CONSISTENTLY HAVE SOME OF THE HIGHEST ATTENDED EVENTS. AND I'LL FLAG THAT WE JUST RECEIVED THAT MEMO THING OF THE POST BUDGET TOWN HALLS AND WE HAD 97.

AND THE NEXT HIGHEST UP WAS 80. SO I'M PROUD OF THIS.

DISTRICT TWO WAS NOT ALWAYS THAT, AND IT'S BECAUSE OF INITIATIVES LIKE THE NEWSLETTER. AND SO I WOULD IMPLORE ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES TO SEE WHAT OPPORTUNITIES THERE ARE TO DO THAT. AND I KNOW THAT SOMETIMES IT'S REALLY HARD TO FIND, YOU KNOW, A GRAPHIC DESIGNER ON YOUR TEAM WHO CAN PUT TOGETHER SOMETHING LIKE THAT EVERY SINGLE MONTH.

I THINK -- I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN -- I KNOW RIGHT NOW WE'RE LIMITED IN OUR ABILITY AS A SERVICE SOMEONE WHO DOES GRAPHIC DESIGN WORK.

IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TOO, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT POLICY AMENDED SO THAT EVERY OFFICE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.

I'M SUPPORTIVE OF MOST GOOD THINGS. I WILL SAY THE CHILDREN REHABILITATION INSTITUTE, HEAR IT'S A REALLY FANTASTIC ORGANIZATION.

I WILL ASK YOU HOW THEY SCORED ON THE DELEGATE AGENCY METRICS.

I KNOW ALL THE TIME WE TALK ABOUT ORGANIZATIONS SORT OF JUMPING THE LINE, AND WHILE I DO AGREE WE SHOULD FUND THEM, I'M WONDERING IF MAYBE WE DO 250K PER YEAR IF THAT'S A POSSIBILITY AND MAYBE WE FIND MORE FUNDING FOR INFRASTRUCTURE THERE. AND SO MY QUESTION WILL BE HOW THEY SCORED ON THE MATRIX. THE SAME THING, I THINK I HAVE A SIMILAR CONCERN -- I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO GAVE CONCERN NECESSARILY, BUT WE ALREADY GAVE THEM $15 MILLION IN ARPA, SO MAYBE I THINK I SUPPORT MOVING 500K OF THAT TO THE SECOND YEAR OF THE REPRODUCTIVE JUSTICE FUND. AGAIN, FANTASTIC AMAZING ORGANIZATION, US NOT GIVING THEM $3 BILLION DOES NOT MEAN WE DON'T VALUE THEM.

US NOT GIVING THEM $2 MILLION DOES NOT MEAN WE DON'T VALUE THEM.

1MILLION IS STRONG, 15 MILLION THAT WE JUST GAVE A YEAR AND SOME CHANGE AGO MEANS WE VALUE AND SUPPORT THEM, SO IF WE CAN REDUCE THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT. I WOULD ALSO BE INTERESTED IN MAYBE IF WE REDUCE THE AIR SERVICE INCENTIVE FUND TO MAYBE 50K TO FUND SOME OTHER ASKS. REPRODUCTIVE JUSTICE FUND, I'LL RESPOND TO SOMETHING YESTERDAY, I THINK THE NAME IS VERY FITTING AND THERE IS AN INJUSTICE THAT WE HAVE TO RESPOND TO AND THAT WE CAN ADDRESS INCLUDING INJUSTICES LIKE ABSTINENCE, SEXUAL VIOLENCE, PREDATORY SEXUAL CRISIS CENTER, IT IS ALSO A COMPLETE INJUSTICE THAT PEOPLE CANNOT ACCESS SAFE ABORTIONS IN TEXAS AND SOMEHOW SIDEWAY SOME WAY WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT AND I'M EXCITED FOR US AS A COUNCIL TO DISCUSS WHAT THIS FUND WILL EXPLICITLY SUPPORT BUT I THINK WE CAN ADDRESS ALL OF THOSE THINGS THROUGH A FUND LIKE THIS.

I'LL ALSO ADD FOR SELL BRIGHT, I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN -- WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A $622 MILLION, I STRUGGLE TO BELIEVE WE CAN'T FIND $100,000 IN IT, SO I WOULD LIKE FOR THE CHIEF TO FIND SOME FUNDS WITHIN THAT. IT IS A PRIORITY, AND I THINK THERE'S STRONG CONSENSUS ON THE COUNCIL THAT WE WANT IT FUNDED, BUT DO WE HAVE TO TAKE FUNDING FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE IN ORDER TO GIVE IT, I DON'T THINK THAT'S ENTIRELY TRUE. SUPER EXCITED TO SEE COUNCILWOMAN GAVITO GET THE SENIOR ASSISTANCE PILOT PROGRAM. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL PILOT, I'M PROUD OF YOU THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO GET THAT. I'M ALSO SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THE INSULIN COST SHARE PROGRAM, THAT WAS AN INITIATIVE WITH ME AND DR. ROCHA GARCIA, BEEN

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BUT IF WE CAN JUST DO 50K, I'D RATHER DO THAT. AND THEN I'LL ADD, I STILL AM LOOKING FOR SUPPORT FROM MY 0-DOLLAR ASK WHICH IS MOVING A SENIOR MANAGEMENT ANALYST OR COORDINATOR POSITION TO THE INNOVATION AS A CRIME PREVENTION GRANT COORDINATOR FROM THE METRO HEALTH DEPARTMENT, SO LOOKING FOR SUPPORT FOR THAT. IF NOT HERE, THEN I WILL BE LOOKING FOR IT ON THURSDAY. AND THEN I'M ALSO -- THIS IS PROBABLY A DEEPER QUESTION, BUT HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO BUILD THE OUTDOOR FITNESS CENTER AND THE TRAINING CLASSROOM FOR SAPD? COUNCILMAN, IT WILL DEPEND ONCE WE HAVE THE DESIGN, BUT WE'RE ANTICIPATING FOR BOTH ITEMS WITHIN 12 MONTHS. SO WE HAVE TO GO TO THE DESIGN AND THEN GO THROUGH THE BID PROCESS. THE CLASSROOM, IT WILL PROBABLY -- WOULD BE A LITTLE FASTER BECAUSE WE'RE ACQUIRING A TRAILER. WE JUST HAVE TO HAVE THE FOUNDATION AND READY TO INSTALL. BUT WE'RE ESTIMATING FOR BOTH PROJECTS, ABOUT 12

MONTHS. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: HOW MANY VACANCIES ARE THERE

CURRENTLY WITHIN SAPD? >> VILLAGOMEZ: WE ROUGHLY HAVE MAYBE 50 OR 60 AS OF

TODAY. >> WALSH: AND WE'VE GOT ANOTHER CLASS STARTING AT

THE END OF THE MONTH, DON'T WE. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: THE REASON I ASK IS BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUDGET BRIEFING, THAT WE -- WE WERE TOLD THAT IN ORDER TO HIRE THOSE 105 -- WE DON'T HAVE THE SUFFICIENT FACILITIES TO TRAIN 105 PEOPLE.

ADDING THE 70 OTHER PEOPLE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TRAIN, ARE WE GOING TO HIRE ALL 170 OF THOSE WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR.

>> WALSH: YES, WE ARE, BECAUSE WE'RE RUNNING FIVE CADET CLASSES NEXT

YEAR. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: AND HOW ARE YOU DOING.

>> WALSH: WE'RE SQUEEZING IN THE FIFTH ONE NEXT SUMMER, SO WE'VE GOT TO

GET THAT TRAILER DONE. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: SO WHEN ARE ARE WE GOING TO

KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT IT FUNDED. >> WALSH: WE'LL KNOW

TOMORROW. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: WHEN ARE WE GOING TO KNOW THAT THEY'RE HIRED. I WANT TO KNOW THAT DATE, THE FULLY STAFFED.

>> WALSH: THE FULLY STAFFED NUMBER YOU DON'T HAVE IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET. THE WAY WE BUDGET IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET IS SCALING THEM AS THEY ENTER AS CADETS IN THE TRIRS YEAR.

WE DON'T BUDGET A 20-YEAR POLICE OFFICER FOR THE COST OF A CADET.

ALL THAT IS ALREADY SCALED WITH N THE PROPOSED BUDGET.

>> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: THE QUESTION WE'RE GETTING AT WITH ACS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 14 ADDITINAL POSITIONS THAT WE WON'T BE ABLE TO FILL BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE TRAINING CAPACITY FOR IT, AND I WAS TOLD THAT WE CANNOT HIRE THOSE 100 PEOPLE UNTIL WE HAVE THE FACILITY AND THE FITNESS CENTER. AND IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE FITNESS CENTER AND STUFF FOR A YEAR, I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT.

AND IF WE CAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE I WAS LIED TO THAT WE AS THE COUNCIL WERE

TOLD SOMETHING INCORRECT. >> WALSH: SO HOLD ON A SECOND. THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ACS AND THE

POLICE ACADEMY. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: THEN ANSWER THE SECOND PART OF

THAT. >> WALSH: NO, NO, I'M GOING TO ADDRESS THAT PART. I THINK I NEED TO. THE POLICE ACADEMY IS A MACHINE THAT RUNS -- WHETHER THE COUNCIL ADDS ANY POSITIONS, WE HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR RETIREMENTS TO KEEP POSITIONS FILLED.

SO THAT IS A MACHINE THAT WE'RE GROWING. NO OFFENSE TO ANIMAL CARE SERVICES AS A DEPARTMENT, BUT WE'RE INCREASING THE SIZE OF THEIR BUDGET BY 26% AND ADDING 29 PEOPLE. AS WELL INTENTIONED AS MR. SIMS IS, WE HAVE A HEAVY LOAD IN ADDITION TO FILLING POSITIONS AND ADHERING TO THE COMMITMENTS THAT WE'RE MAKING IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR RESCUE AGENCIES, THE TEMPORARY SHELTER.

WE'VE GOT A LOT OF WORK. MY SENSITIVITY IS THAT BASED ON YOUR COMMENTS AND THE COUNCIL'S COMMENTS, EVEN IF THE COUNCIL APPROVES EVERYTHING IN THE BUDGET AND ACCELERATES EVERYTHING, I DON'T THINK I CAN SIT HERE NEXT SUMMER AND TELL YOU WE'VE GOTTEN TO EVERY 3-1-1 CALL BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME TO SCALE UP AND I WANT TO BE REALISTIC. I DON'T WANT TO SET ASIDE -- I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD SET ASIDE MONEY. SO REGARDING THE ACADEMY, THE SOONER WE GET THE TEMPORARY BUILDING -- THE CLASSROOM IS KEY. THERE'S A GYM ALREADY.

THERE'S A WORKOUT PLACE ALREADY. WE'RE JUST GOING TO EXPAND THAT CAPABILITY WITHIN THE EXISTING GYM AND PUSH EVERYTHING DOWN TO THE FURTHER -- THE SOUTHERN PART OF THAT CAMPUS.

THE CLASSROOM PART, THE TEMPORARY BUILDING, WE DON'T -- WE'VE GOT TO GO THROUGH DESIGN, BUT IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE BUILDING ANYTHING LIKE A KENWOOD CENTER OR ANYTHING. IT IS A TEMPORARY BUILDING AND CLASSROOM, WE'VE GOT TO HOOK UP ELECTRICITY AND MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT A FOUNDATION.

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>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: THAT WAS ABOUT A MINUTE OF MY TIME. I WOULD SAY I'M NOT GOING WHERE YOU THINK I'M GOING WITH THAT. IF WE'RE GOING TO HIRE THE 105 OFFICERS AND WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DO THAT IMMEDIATELY ON OOCT FIRST, MY QUESTION IS THEN IS THERE A POSSIBILITY WE SAY THREE MONTHS WE DON'T HAVE THAT FUNDED AND WE CAN USE THAT MONEY ELSEWHERE.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU. >> WALSH: IT'S NOTS BUDGETED LIKE THAT. THEY'RE BUDGETED BY CLASS, IF YOU WANT TO

MARIA TAKE A SWING ON IT. >> VILLAGOMEZ: FOR POLICE OFFICER, IT'S SEVEN MONTHS IN THE ACADEMY, SO THEY'RE FUNDED AS CADETS. AND ONES THEY GRADUATE FROM CADET, THEY GO INTO STEP A OFFICER, AND -- PROBATIONARY, I'M SORRY, AND THEY STAY THERE FOR A FEW MONTHS UNTIL THEY MOVE INTO THEIR -- WHEN THEY'RE ABLE TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY ON THEIR OWN. SO WE DON'T BUDGET THEM AS A POLICE OFFICER DAY ONE. WE BUDGET THEM AS A CADET SO THEY CAN GO THROUGH THE ACADEMY. NOW, WE BUDGET THE ACADEMIES BASED ON OUR SCHEDULE AND NOT ALL THE ACADEMIES ARE SCHEDULED DAY ONE.

WE DO SOME IN SEPTEMBER, WE DO SOME IN DECEMBER. I'M GOING OFF OF MEMORY ON THE CLASSES, BUT THAT IS IN THE BUDGET DOCUMENT.

BUT ALL THE CLASSES ARE BUDGETED FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, NOT FOR THE ENTIRE

CLASS THE ENTIRE YEAR. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER

MCKEE. >> WALSH: I'M SORRY, MAYOR.

A COUPLE OTHER THINGS THAT I JUST WANTED TO RESPOND TO.

SO REGARDING THE SOFTWARE, THE CHIEF AND MYSELF ARE NOT RECOMMENDING -- IT WASN'T IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET. SO IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL CHOOSES TO REMOVE THE SOFTWARE ITEM FROM THE AMENDMENT LIST, THEN, YOU KNOW, HIS -- HE'LL USE HIS DISCRETION TO RECOMMEND TO ME WHETHER OR NOT HE NEEDS IT OR WANTS IT OR MAYBE IT'S A FURTHER CONVERSATION WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT. BUT I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. AND THEN JESSICA OR MEL CA CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT KRIT THAT YOU HAD IF YOU WANT YOUR ANSWER BEFORE WE MOVE ON.

IT'S UP TO YOU, MAYOR. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCILMAN.

SO THE CHILDREN'S REHABILITATION INSTITUTE APPLIED UNDER THE CHILDREN AND YOUTH SUCCESS CATEGORY FOR CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION INTERVENTION. THEY DID SCORE WELL. WE RECEIVED A LOT OF APPLICATIONS IN THAT CATEGORY THAT ACTUALLY SCORED PRETTY WELL, SO THEY RANKED ABOUT 9 OF 11. BUT THEY HAD A GOOD PROPOSAL AND THEY HAD GOOD SOLID PERFORMANCE METRICS.

WE DON'T HAVE, UNFORTUNATELY PAST METRICS TO TRACK AS

THEY'D BE A NEW AGENCY RECOMMENDED FOR FUNDING. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: ALL RIGHT. OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER KAUR.

THANK YOU, JESSICA. >> KAUR: THANK YOU, JESSICA, YOU CAN JUST STAY THERE BECAUSE I HAVE A COUPLE OF FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, SORRY. I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE DELEGATE AGENCIES AND THE CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION, THIS ONE IS AN IMPORTANT ORGANIZATION. I WAS IN TEARS LAST WEEK WHEN THEY CAME AND SPOKE TO US. CAN YOU JUST TELL US HOW MUCH FUNDING WAS TOTAL AVAILABLE IN THAT CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION CATEGORY.

>> THERE'S ROUGHLY 987,000 IN THAT CATEGORY.

>> KAUR: TOTAL FOR ALL THE ORGANIZATIONS TO THIS WOULD BE ALMOST LIKE HALF

OF WHAT WE HAD TOTAL FOR THAT CATEGORY. >> IF IT'S PROPOSED AT

500,000, YES. >> KAUR: AND WHEN WE TALKED, I THOUGHT SIX -- THIS IS ALL PUBLIC INFORMATION ABOUT HOW THEY SCORE, RIGHT? OKAY. MY UNDERSTANDING WAS BIG BROTHERS BIG SISTER SCORED SIX, ANY BABY CAN WAS SIX AND CRIT WAS EIGHT.

>> CRIT WAS NINE. >> KAUR: THANK YOU. AND MORGAN'S WONDERLAND INCLUSION FOUNDATION, THAT'S NOT A PART OF THE DELEGATE AGENCY FUND.

>> NO, THEY DID NOT APPLY FOR THE CONSOLIDATED FUNDING PROCESS.

>> KAUR: THANK YOU. JUST AS A POINT ON THAT, I ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT CRIT. MI ONLY ISSUE ON THE EQUITY PERSPECTIVE, ARE WE OVERFUNDING THIS BASED ON HOW MUCH WE HAD TOTAL IN THAT SECTION OF THE DELEGATE AGENCY. LIKE HOW DO WE CROSS-COMPARE.

THAT PROCESS WAS DONE BY A THIRD PARTY, OR WE HAD A LOT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, THERE WAS A PANEL DONE. SO I LOVE THAT ORGANIZATION, I LOVE THERE, I'VE VISITED, I WAS SO MOVED BY IT.

I WOULD BE CURIOUS, I KNOW COUNCILMEMBER WHITE YOU MAY HAVE BROUGHT THIS UP TO TALK ABOUT WHY THAT AMOUNT VERSUS SOMETHING THAT'S MORE CLOSE TO WHAT THE OTHER DELEGATE AGENCIES RECEIVED.

DEFINITELY WANT TO SEE FUNDING GO TO THEM, THOUGH.

SO I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR, ERIK, MARIA, ON THE SA-CORE NUMBERS. I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THE CHART THAT YOU ALL PROVIDED FOR COUNCILMEMBER GAVITO THAT SHOWED THE FREQUENCY OF CALLS. SO WHEN I LOOKED AT THE CHART LAST NIGHT, I SAW THAT 86% OF THE CALLS THAT COME IN ARE BETWEEN THE HOURS OF SEVEN AND 11, WHICH WE ALREADY HAVE SERVICE. SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE'S $3.5 MILLION, IS THAT FOR ONE TEAM TO GO OVERNIGHT OR IS THAT FOR ALL OF THE CURRENT TEAMS THAT WE HAVE TO GO OVERNIGHT.

>> VILLAGOMEZ: THAT IS FOR ALL THREE TEAMS TO GO OVERNIGHT.

>> KAUR: GOT IT. OKAY. SO WE'RE SPENDING -- SO 85% OF THE CALLS ARE HAPPENING BETWEEN SEVEN AND 11.

SO DO WE NEED ALL THREE TEAMS -- MAYBE I SHOULD BE ASKING THIS AS A

QUESTION, MAYBE I SHOULD BE -- SOMEONE -- >> VILLAGOMEZ: SO,

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SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, A RECOMMENDATION WAS 7:00 A.M. TO 11. IF THE COUNCIL WANT US TO DO SOME SORT OF HYBRID, LIKE HAS BEEN MENTIONED, MAYBE A TEAM TO STAY AVAILABLE 24/7, WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT. WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT YET.

>> KAUR: OKAY. PERFECT. SO I GUESS THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION. IF 85% OF THE CALLS COMING IN FROM FROM SEVEN TO 11, I THINK WE WOULD AT LEAST WANT ONE TEAM, I THINK YOU HEAR LOUDLY AND CLEARLY AT LEAST ONE TEAM COULD STAY OVERNIGHT. I KNOW WE'RE NOT GETTING TO ALL THE CALLS. IF WE HAVE AT LEAST ONE TEAM OVERNIGHT AND ALLOCATE THE REST TO PEAK TIME THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION.

IF THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE, MAYBE AT SIX OVER SIX, WE LOOK AT THAT TO SEE MIDWAY THROUGH THE YEAR WE COULD ADD ANOTHER TEAM, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NECESSARILY -- LAST QUESTION REALLY QUICK, DO WE KNOW WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE CALLS WE ARE GETTING TO WITH THE THREE CURRENT TEAMS?

>> VILLAGOMEZ: SO RIGHT NOW WE ONLY HAVE ONE TEAM ON THE GROUND.

THE OTHER TWO TEAMS COME IN JANUARY 2024, SO THAT ONE TEAM ON A 12-MONTH

PERIOD WAS ABLE TO ADDRESS 1500 CALLS. >> KAUR: GOT IT.

AND THE TOTAL WAS 21,000. OKAY.

SO, YES, I WOULD GO BACK TO PUSHING FOR THE ADDITIONAL CORE TEAM IF

WE CAN. >> VILLAGOMEZ: AND WE WOULD HAVE TO EVALUATE AND COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL FOR THE RECOMMENDATION ON THAT.

>> KAUR: OKAY. THANKS, MARIA. SO OVERNIGHT, THE CALLS THAT CAME IN WERE 2900. SO IF WE WANTED TO ADDRESS ALL THE CALLS OVERNIGHT, WE WOULD NEED AT LEAST TWO TEAMS IF EACH TEAM IS ADDRESSING 1500. COUNCILWOMAN, IT'S NO T THAT EASY BECAUSE THE CALLS ARE ACROSS THE CITY, SO HAVING ONE TEAM TO COVER THE ENTIRE CITY

IS DIFFICULT. >> KAUR: OKAY. >> VILLAGOMEZ: THE BENEFIT OF HAVING PATROL IS THAT THEY'RE ALL OVER THE CITY, SO THEY CAN GET TO THOSE CALLS A LOT FASTER THAN 1-C ORE TEAM WOULD, EVEN IF IT WAS

OVERNIGHT. >> KAUR: OKAY. I'LL JUST REECHO IMPORTANCE FOR THE DAY. AND FOR INFRASTRUCTURE, I AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER CASTILLO'S POINT THAT SHE MENTIONED, IT'S REALLY HARD TO JUST MOVE AWAY FROM NOT GETTING A STIG AMOUNT OF THAT FUNDING THAT WE HAD ASKED FOR, BUT I ALSO AGREE WITH WHAT THE MAYOR MENTIONED YESTERDAY ABOUT EQUITY.

I THINK IF WE CAN FIND SOME MEDIAN GROUND WHERE WE ARE PUTTING MORE CURRENT DOLLARS INTO INFRASTRUCTURE AND MAYBE EACH OF US COMMIT TO USING AN EQUITY MINDSET WHEN WE'RE GIVING THOSE DOLLARS, EVEN IF WE CAN GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF 100 THAT YOU HAVE ALLOCATED ERIK, IN YOUR BUDGET, EVEN IF IT'S 200, 100 EACH, ANY KIND OF MIDDLE GROUND THERE I WOULD REALLY SUPPORT. ALSO THE PERMANENT CONSTRUCTION MITIGATION GRANTS, IF WE COULD AT LEAST ALLOCATE SOME AMOUNT OF MONEY TO KEEP IT FOREFRONT OF MIND, EVEN IF IT'S A SMALL AMOUNT SO IT DOESN'T JUST GET LOST FOR 2025. I THINK THAT WOULD GIVE A LOT OF SMALL BUSINESSES THAT REALLY NEED THAT, SO FOR 20 TBIEF WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME FUNDING THERE. AND THEN ALSO WANTED TO ECHO COUNCILMEMBER CASTILLO'S REQUEST OF MOVING 500K FROM THE MORGAN'S WONDERLAND INCLUSION FOUNDATION FROM 2024 TO THE REPRO GRANTS FOR 2025.

AND THEN LASTLY, ALL THE OTHER THINGS I SUPPORT. SO WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO FIND THE ADDITIONAL MONEY. THAT'S ON YOU, BUT I SUPPORT EVERYTHING ELSE, DIABETES, INSULIN CONTINUUM, URBAN CHAMPION ACADEMY, ALL THE OTHER THINGS CHECK PLUS. COOL THINGS.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER KAUR. COUNCILMEMBER WHYTE.

>> WHYTE: THANKS, MAYOR. ERIK, YOU AND YOUR STAFF, GREAT JOB ON THE NEW LIST I'LL RUN THROUGH MY THOUGHTS QUICKLY. NUMBER ONE, SA-CORE FINE. NUMBER TWO, ANIMAL CARE SERVICES, FINE.

NUMBER THREE, BALLISTIC GLASS, NEED EVERY BIT OF THAT, SO THAT'S GREAT.

NUMBER FOUR, NAMP, I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN COURAGE AND OTHERS, IF WE COULD FIND A WAY TO GET MORE DOLLARS THERE, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WOULD BE MUCH NEEDED. CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM AS WELL, THAT IS NO LONGER ON THE LIST. I ALSO AGREE, WE WE NEED TO PUT MORE MONEY THERE TOO. PRINTING BUDGET, I'M FINE WITH THE ADJUSTMENT ON 5.

OPPORTUNITY HOME, GREAT. CRIT -- GUYS, CRIT ASKED FOR OVER A MILLION DOLLARS AND SO

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NO. 12, GREAT. 13, STOP SIGNS IS FINE. URBAN CHAMPIONS ACADEMY, GREAT . THE OFFICERS, YOU KNOW, WHEN POLICE TELL US THEY NEED SOMETHING TO DO THEIR JOBS MORE EFFECTIVELY, I THINK WE NEED TO LISTEN AND SO I THINK THAT MONEY NEEDS TO BE IN THERE. 16, PILOT PROGRAM, I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

17 AND 18 ARE FINE. BIG BROTHERS, BIG SISTERS. I'M GLAD THAT'S GETTING FUNDED. THE VFW POST, I'M HAPPY THAT'S IN THERE AS WELL.

NO. 21 IS FINE AS WELL. I WILL MENTION THE KELLY HERITAGE FUND , I THINK THAT'S A VERY WORTHY PROJECT AND IF THERE'S MONEY THAT WE CAN GET IN THERE, WE CERTAINLY SHOULD.

I MENTIONED IT YESTERDAY. WE'VE GOT TO FIND MONEY IN SOME OTHER PLACES AND SO I WANT TO REITERATE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT $500,000 IN HERE FOR TO INCREASE CITY ART PIECES, MAINTAINED ANNUALLY FROM 5 TO 25. $500,000.

MAYBE WE TAKE THAT FROM 5 TO 15 AND TRY TO SAVE OURSELVES $250,000 THERE.

THE RESCUE INCENTIVE ENHANCEMENT, $288,000 THERE. THAT'S INCREASING THE INCENTIVE FROM 84 TO $200 PER ANIMAL. IF WE CUT THAT IN HALF AND RAISE IT TO $142 PER ANIMAL THEN MAYBE WE SAVE $144,000 THERE. I THINK THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED. ADDITIONALLY, THE THRIVING WORKFORCE POSITION -- I NEVER REALLY UNDERSTOOD THAT WHEN IT WAS PROPOSED, BUT THAT'S $104,000.

THERE'S MORE MONEY THERE THAT COULD BE HAD. LISTEN, I'M CLEARLY IN THE MINORITY ON THE REPRODUCTIVE JUSTICE FUND BUT I THINK IT'S $500,000 THAT COULD GO TO INFRASTRUCTURE AND OTHER NEEDS THAT WE ALL HEARD ABOUT DURING OUR RESPECTIVE CAMPAIGNS.

THE ARCHBISHOP HAS RELEASED A STATEMENT ON THIS AND I THINK HE CALLED THIS PROPOSAL MORALLY REPUGNANT. AND THAT WAS ACTUALLY BEFORE WHAT HAPPENED IN THE LAST HOUR HERE WHERE WE HAD COUNCIL FOLKS SUGGESTING WE TAKE MONEY FROM DISABLED -- CARE FOR DISABLED CHILDREN AND PUT IT TOWARDS ABORTION ACCESS. I WONDER WHAT HE WOULD SAY ABOUT THAT NOW. ANDY, WE'VE GOT A REAL LEGAL PROBLEM HERE, THE WAY I SEE IT. LEGAL EXPOSURE I THINK IS CERTAINLY THERE.

IS IT NOT? >> SEGOVIA: WELL, COUNCILMAN, AS YOU WELL KNOW, I DON'T LIKE TO GIVE LEGAL ADVICE IN THE COUNCIL IN PUBLIC TO KEEP THE ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE SO I'LL LIMIT MY REMARKS TO THINGS THAT ARE VERY OBVIOUS OR YOU CAN TAKE AWAY FROM A PLAIN READING OF THE CURRENT STATUTES AND CURRENT RULINGS OUT THERE. THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO CRIMINAL

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TO SAY IT'S PROBLEMATIC RISK, I PROBABLY WOULDN'T CHARACTERIZE IT THAT WAY.

>> WHYTE: THE RISK CERTAINLY INCREASES IF METRO HEALTH GIVES THIS MONEY TO ORGANIZATIONS THAT FUND SAN ANTONIO RESIDENTS LEAVING THE STATE TO GO AND GET AN ABORTION, ISN'T THAT TRUE?

>> JUST SO THAT EVERYBODY IS ON THE SAME PAGE IN TERMS OF WHAT THE STATE OF THE LAW IS CURRENTLY, WE DID HAVE A FEBRUARY DECISION BY A FEDERAL COURT THAT STATED PRECISELY ADDRESSING STATE STATUTES THAT WERE ANNOUNCED AS HAVING OUT OF STATE EFFECT.

PRECISELY THE COURT SAID IT DOES NOT PENALIZE. SO THEY'RE RESTATING WHAT HB 1280 IS WHICH IS THE STATUTE THAT THE AG HAS THE AUTHORITY TO ENFORCE.

HB 1280 IS UNAMBIGUOUS. IT DOES NOT PENALIZE OUT OF STATE ABORTIONS AND AS SUCH DOES NOT PENALIZE CONDUCT RELATED TO OUT OF STATE ABORTIONS.

SO THE CURRENT STATE OF THE LAW IS THAT ACTIVITY THAT RELATES TO OUT OF STATE CARE IS CURRENTLY DETERMINED BY THE COURT DOESN'T WARRANT PENALTIES.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: I'M GOING TO INTERJECT. WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS. IF WE WANT TO GO INTO THE MERITS OF THE PROPOSAL BASED ON LEGAL GUIDANCE, I'M GOING TO ASK US TO GO IN EXEC. YOU DO HAVE THE FLOOR.

>> WHYTE: I MEAN, MR. -- I MEAN, THIS IS ABOUT THE AMENDMENT.

THIS IS MOST DIRECTLY ABOUT THIS AMENDMENT AND OPENING UP THIS CITY TO LEGAL EXPOSURE BECAUSE WE WANT TO FUND FOLKS TO GO GET ABORTIONS IN OTHER STATES.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: RIGHT. IF WE'RE GOING TO METE OUT YOUR CONCERN ABOUT THAT, WE'RE GOING

TO DO IT IN EXEC. >> SEGOVIA: IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO DELVE INTO IT, I

SUGGEST WE DO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE ON THE LEGAL ASPECTS OF THE PROPOSAL WE'LL DO THAT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION BY

ATTORNEYS. IF NOT, CONTINUE ON. >> WHYTE: I THINK WE NEED TO

TALK ABOUT THE LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS OF THIS. >>

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: ALL RIGHT. WE CAN SURELY DO THAT IF YOU

YIELD THE FLOOR. >>

YOU MOVE TO ANOTHER TOPIC. >> WHYTE: NO. THAT'S IT.

I WANT TO HAVE THE LEGAL CONVERSATION ON THAT AND MAKING SURE I COVERED INFRASTRUCTURE.

YEAH. THAT'S IT. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK

YOU, COUNCILMEMBER WHYTE. COUNCILMEMBER CABELLO HAVRDA. >> HAVRDA: WHAT DO YOU KNOW, I WAS NEXT. THANKS, MAYOR. VERY QUICKLY I WANT TO CAUTION EACH OF US IN MAKING MORAL JUDGMENTS ON EACH OTHER AND OUR BUDGET PRIORITIES.

WE'RE ALL PASSIONATE ABOUT OUR ISSUES BUT WE'RE ALL DOING OUR BEST TO REPRESENT OUR CONSTITUENTS AND THE CITY AS A WHOLE. I DON'T THINK IT BENEFITS ANYONE TO ATTACK OUR MORALITY OR QUITE FRANKLY THE MORALITY OF MANY OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE REPRESENT. HAVING SAID THAT, I DO APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT FOR CLARA PARK. IT WILL MAKE A WORLD OF DIFFERENCE IN THE EDGEWOOD COMMUNITY . BY THE WAY, WITH COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO'S HELP, I THINK EDGEWOOD IS THE BIG WINNER IN THIS ENTIRE BUDGET AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR THAT BECAUSE THEY HAVE HISTORICALLY NOT BEEN WINNERS IN THE BUDGET SO I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR THAT.

I ALSO APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT FOR URBAN CHAMPIONS. THESE FUNDS WILL HELP FUND PROGRAMMING AND OPERATIONAL SUPPORT. THE ACS STOREFRONT FOR THE FOUR DISTRICTS I THINK IS ANOTHER BIG WIN THIS BUDGET. REALLY, NOT JUST FOR THE FOUR DISTRICTS THAT IT DIRECTLY IMPACTS BUT FOR ALL OF SAN ANTONIO.

EVERY ANIMAL THAT'S SPAYED OR NEUTERED IS ONE LESS ANIMAL PRODUCING WHO KNOWS HOW MANY ANIMALS THAT ARE GOING TO BE STRAY OR NOT WELL TAKEN CARE OF.

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THERE WERE NO OTHER PLACES FOR OUR SPECIAL NEEDS COMMUNITIES TO GO ORIGINALLY FOR AMUSEMENT. BUT NOW CAMPS AND LEGAL SERVICES AND HEALTH SUPPORT AND SOON AN ENTIRE HOTEL ACCOMMODATING OUR SPECIAL NEEDS COMMUNITY.

I THINK STILL IN THESE MODERN TIMES OUR SPECIAL NEEDS COMMUNITY GETS LEFT BEHIND AND IT MAY SEEM LIKE FUNDING -- WE DO FUND THIS INSTITUTION SO MUCH BUT THERE'S NO OTHER PLACE IN THE WORLD LIKE IT AND I THINK WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT IT.

AND SUPPORTING THAT ENTIRE SUBSET OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT I THINK HISTORICALLY GETS LEFT BEHIND. ANOTHER UNIQUE SPACE TO SAN ANTONIO IS OUR DREAM WEEK.

I REMEMBER DREAM WEEK WAS FOUNDED AND IT'S THE ONLY DREAM WEEK I UNDERSTAND IN THE WHOLE UNIVERSE . JUST LIKE MORGAN'S WONDERLAND. I'M PROUD TO SUPPORT THE EFFORTS. THEY PROMOTE IDEAS, DISCUSSION, AND CHANGE TO OUR CITY.

IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE SUPPORT THEM. CRIT -- IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN THERE, I WOULD ASK YOU TO TRY TO VISIT. THEY'RE REALLY UNIQUE IN THAT THEY HAVE EQUIPMENT OF MACHINERY THAT IS FOUND NOWHERE ELSE IN THE COUNTRY. THEY HAVE ONE IN MEXICO.

THEY HAVE ONE HERE AND IT HELPS KIDS THAT HAVE MOBILITY PROBLEMS. IT ACTUALLY IS KIND OF A ROBOT THAT HELPS THEM LEARN HOW TO WALK AND IT'S REALLY INSPIRATIONAL TO SEE THAT. IF YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO GO OUT THERE, I WOULD RECOMMEND IT.

NOT JUST THE COUNCIL, ANYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY. THEY'RE REALLY DOING A GREAT JOB. AND I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME TALK AGAINST FUNDING CELLABRIGHT. I WOULD RATHER NOT RELY ON AN OUTSIDE AGENCY TO FUND SOMETHING AS IMPORTANT AS PUBLIC SAFETY SO I ADVOCATE FOR FUNDING IT HERE AND NOW AND THANK AGAIN COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO FOR BRINGING IT UP. AND SO, FINALLY, I THINK EVERYTHING ELSE I'M GOOD WITH. I'M REALLY HAPPY WITH THIS BUDGET NOW.

THAT MAYBE DIDN'T START OUT LIKE THAT BUT, ERIK, GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR BEAUTIFUL STAFF.

WE'RE ALMOST THERE. BUT YOU GUYS ARE DANG MIRACLE WORKERS AND I'M JUST REALLY GRATEFUL FOR ALL OF YOUR DEDICATION AND YOUR PATIENCE. THANKS.

THANKS, MAYOR. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER CABELLO

HAVRDA. COUNCILMEMBER VIAGRAN. >> VIAGRAN: THANK YOU.

I WELCOME THE APPROACH THAT THE CITY TOOK FROM YESTERDAY'S BUDGET AMENDMENT PROCESS AND WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US TODAY, IT WAS QUITE AN EFFORT. THANK YOU, TEAM.

WITH FULL UNDERSTANDING OF THE BUDGET PLANNING AND PREPARATION PROCESS, I UNDERSTOOD THAT NOT ALL AMENDMENTS WOULD BE SELECTED AS WE MAKE NECESSARY ADJUSTMENTS TO GET TO A TWO-YEAR TOTAL. BUT, AGAIN, I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS.

AGAIN, I KNEW FROM THE BEGINNING WE WOULD HAVE A SURPLUS, NOT EXPECTING THIS MUCH. I DO THIS THAT AS THE FUTURE COMES WE DO NEED TO MAYBE DISCUSS AMENDMENTS A LITTLE EARLIER THAN SEPTEMBER TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS.

BECAUSE I DO HAVE QUITE A FEW QUESTIONS REGARDING SOME OF THE MILLION DOLLAR ASKS THAT WERE PUT FORWARD. OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS ELECTED OFFICIALS IS ADVOCATING FOR OUR COMMUNITY'S PRIORITIES, WHICH I HAVE DONE THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE BUDGET PROCESS.

AND I HAVE WORKED VERY HARD TO DO, ALONG WITH MANY OF MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES.

WHILE WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MORE THAN $20 MILLION, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE ALL OF OUR REQUESTS FUNDED. I THINK THE REVISED ATTACHMENT ONE IS A GREAT START.

THE SA CORE TEAM -- WHAT I HAVE HEARD TODAY HAS GIVEN ME SOMETHING -- AND YOU GUYS HAVE DONE GOOD WORK BUT I WOULD LIKE YOU TO GO BACK IN TERMS OF THE EXPANDED SA CORE TEAM FROM 24 HOURS PER DAY, SEVEN DAYS PER WEEK. I NEED TO SEE THAT CALLS AND CITYWIDE. I DO NOT SEE HOW THIS IS GOING TO BE SUSTAINABLE WITH OUR

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SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT BECAUSE I THINK A FOURTH TEAM IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK FORWARD TO IN THE FUTURE. AND I WOULD LIKE TO GET SOME INPUT FROM PATROL ABOUT HOW THIS IS WORKING IN TERMS OF REACHING OUT TO THE CALLS. ANIMAL CARE SERVICES ISSUES 2 AND 9. THIS IS GOING TO BE MY CAUTIONARY TALE TO MY COLLEAGUES THAT ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS. BUT, AS YOU KNOW, THE SOUTH SIDE HAS A BROOKS SPAY AND NEUTER CLINIC. THIS CLINIC WAS CLOSED FOR OVER A YEAR BECAUSE WE DID NOT HAVE THE PROVIDERS THERE TO PROVIDE THIS SPAY AND NEUTER.

SO AS YOU SIT HERE AND YOU HOPE FOR THE 30 TO 50 A DAY AT THE STOREFRONT, MY QUESTION IS HOW IS THAT GOING TO BE DONE? IF OUR NEED IS A VETERINARIAN AND A VET TECH, WHO IS GOING TO BE SUPPLYING THESE SERVICES? THE BROOKS SPAY AND NEUTER, OVER FIVE YEARS PRIOR TO THE SHUT DOWN WAS WORKING AND PROVIDING LOW-COST SERVICES FOR THE RESIDENTS.

IF WE DO NOT SEE THIS MONEY -- BECAUSE THIS IS OVER $2 MILLION WE ARE PULLING TOWARDS THIS EFFORT. AND MY EXPECTATION IS 30 TO 50 A DAY.

BUT WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS WHEN CAN I START EXPECTING THAT. BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT MET OUR NUMBERS. THAT'S A COLD-HARD FACT OF OUR SPAY AND NEUTERS THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO. AND I KNOW IT HAS BEEN A SLOWDOWN AND I DO KNOW THAT ACS IS OVERWHELMED, THAT THEY HAVE TO BUILD UP, THAT WE ARE SEEING NOT ONLY JUST REGULAR CALLS BUT THE DANGEROUS ANIMAL CALLS. AND SO I DON'T LIKE TO SET EXPECTATIONS FOR THE COUNCIL AND THEIR RESIDENTS THAT 30 TO 50 ARE GOING TO HAPPEN A DAY WHEN THEY'RE JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. SO I REALLY HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT PUTTING THIS MONEY FORWARD AND THEN GETTING TO A POINT WHERE IF WE COME MID-YEAR AND WE'RE NOT GETTING THOSE, WHAT DO WE DO? WE GOING TO DO IF THEY'RE NOT MEETING THE 30 TO 50 A DAY AT THE STOREFRONT AND WHEN CAN I EXPECT THOSE SPAY AND NEUTERS TO BEGIN? THE OTHER IS THE 14 POSITIONS. WHILE I AGREE WITH YOU THAT WE NEED TO MOVE THIS TO 2025, AGAIN, I'M GOING TO GO WITH THE VACANCIES AND HOW WE KEEP PEOPLE IN AS CITY EMPLOYEES.

WE HAVE STILL YET TO FILL THESE POSITIONS. I AM READY TO GIVE UP NAMP.

I WAS READY TO SWITCH NAMP TO CIP BUT I AM READY TO GIVE THAT UP TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE MONEY NEEDED FOR THE REPRODUCTIVE JUSTICE FUND. BUT I DO THINK THERE'S OPPORTUNITY WHERE THE MORGAN'S WONDERLAND INCLUSION FOUNDATION FOR A MILLION DOLLARS WHERE WE CAN LOOK AT A MATCHING FUND OR WE COULD LOOK AT VISIT SAN ANTONIO AND THE TPID, BECAUSE THIS IS AN ALL-INCLUSIVE HOTEL. SO I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD. THE REPRODUCTIVE JUSTICE FUND NEEDS TO BE FOCUSED.

WOMEN'S HEALTH AND SO MANY WOMEN ARE WORKING PART-TIME AND CAN'T AFFORD INSURANCE.

THIS IS THEIR HEALTH AND WELLNESS HERE AND ANY OTHER CONVERSATION POLITICALLY IS JUST -- IT'S JUST PLACATING TO FEDERAL AND STATE POLITICS, WHICH WE HAVE NO BUSINESS DOING RIGHT NOW DURING BUDGET SEASON. CHILD SAFE AND THEIR EFFORTS, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD CALL. URBAN CHAMPIONS ACADEMY , I APPRECIATE Y'ALL MOVING THAT FORWARD. THEY HAVE BEEN TRYING TO WORK FOR YEARS AND ARE WORKING ON THAT. THE DIRECT SUPPORT FOR THE DIABETES CONTINUUM.

I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WE DEFINITELY NEED TO MONITOR AND SEE IF WE MOVE THE NEEDLE IN REGARDS TO THAT PROGRAM AND OUR HEALTH OF THE UNDERSERVED. THE NO. 18, INCREASE ALLOCATION TO DREAM WEEK. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME OF THAT FUNDING GO TO THE DIEZ Y SEIS PRODUCTION AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT DIDN'T, BECAUSE WE GOT THE LITTLE BOOKLET TODAY OF ALL THE ACTIVITIES THAT ARE GOING AND I THINK WE NEED TO KIND OF FOCUS ON THE OTHER CELEBRATIONS OF THE COMMUNITIES HERE. OR DO A MATCHING FUND FOR DREAM

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AND OF COURSE THE FOOD POLICY COUNCIL OF SAN ANTONIO FOR THE URBAN FARMING SEEDS.

THIS PILOT SERIES I THINK IS IMPORTANT. THE ONE THING THAT WE HAVE SEEN IS WE DO NEED TO WORK ON WHAT WE DO WITH OUR TREES, HOW WE PLANT, WHAT WE DO TO COMBAT CLIMATE CHANGE, AND I THINK THIS IS A GOOD EFFORT. CUELLAR PARK, I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT'S GOING TO BE FUNDED. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE OF THE PARK INITIATIVES PUT FORWARD, FUNDED. AND THE KELLY HERITAGE FOUNDATION, I DO THINK THAT IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT. IF WE'RE GOING TO CLAIM TO BE MILITARY CITY, USA THAT WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD. WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES HERE BUT WE -- I CANNOT STRESS ENOUGH THAT WE NEED TO BE BETTER SO THAT WE HAVE A FULL IDEA OF WHAT THIS BUDGET SESSION LOOKS LIKE WHEN WE COME HERE. AND WE DO NOT HAVE $20 MILLION TO SPEND. WHILE IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S GREAT, IT'S NOT A TRUE REPRESENTATION OF WHAT THIS CITY CAN DO AND HOW WE CAN COMPETE ON A NATIONAL LEVEL IF WE ARE CONTINUALLY HAVING THIS EXCESS. AND I KNOW THAT'S HARD BECAUSE WE OWN TWO MUNICIPAL UTILITIES, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO ADDRESS OUR POOR PERFORMANCE OR LOWER PERFORMANCE IN THE SALES TAX AND WHAT THAT HAPPENED. I THINK THAT GOES BACK TO WHY WE NEED TO HELP OUR SMALL BUSINESSES AND WHY WE NEED TO WORK, NOT JUST IN COMMITTEE, BUT AS A COUNCIL AS A WHOLE TO ADDRESS THE CONSTRUCTION MITIGATION ISSUES AND HOW WE VIEW SMALL BUSINESS IN THIS CITY. I DO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS. I THOUGHT THIS WAS GOING TO BE A LONGER CONVERSATION, SIMPLY BECAUSE I DID NOT LIKE THE FIRST SET OF ATTACHMENTS SET OUT.

BUT I SEE JUSTINA AND MARIA OUT THERE AND I KNOW, ERIK, YOU PROBABLY HAD THE ENTIRE TEAM WORKING ALL NIGHT, SO I DO APPRECIATE YOU. I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE WORKING HARD TO GET THIS RIGHT. AND I AM HOPING THAT NEXT YEAR WE HAVE ONLY, LIKE, $2 MILLION OR $3 MILLION BECAUSE WE HAVE BUDGETED SO WELL AND WE KNEW WHAT CPS WAS GOING TO MAKE THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS. THANK YOU.

>> WALSH: REMEMBER, THREE YEARS AGO WE HAD TO CUT THE BUDGET BETWEEN PROPOSED AND

ADOPTED. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: I THINK THERE'S A SONG ABOUT THIS.

>> WALSH: JUST REAL QUICK, COUNCILWOMAN, ON YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE SPAY AND NEUTER.

SO WE'RE SETTING ASIDE -- THAT MONEY IS SET ASIDE. WE HAVE TO LOCATE, WE HAVE TO LEASE. WE HAVE TO BUILD OUT. WE'RE PROJECTING THAT WE'LL HAVE THOSE UP AND RUNNING NEXT SUMMER. BUT YOU RAISE AN EXCELLENT POINT. THE REASON WHY BROOKS WAS CLOSED FOR OVER A YEAR WAS BECAUSE OUR CONTRACTOR COULDN'T SUSTAIN THE WORK ANYMORE AND PULLED OUT.

AND IT TOOK A NEW CONTRACTOR WHO, FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER, MOVED FROM NORTH TEXAS TO EXPAND INTO SAN ANTONIO. AND WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO FOSTER THAT RELATIONSHIP BECAUSE THE SERVICE IS GOING TO BE CRITICAL. I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO THINK OR ANYBODY WATCHING IN THE AUDIENCE THAT BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING 30 TO 50 A DAY. IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF GROUND GAIN THAT WE'VE GOT TO DO BUT THE GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A SERVICE PROVIDER IN THERE.

WE MAY HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO CONTINUE TO INCENTIVIZE THAT BECAUSE THAT SERVICE IS GOING

TO BE KEY. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER VIAGRAN.

COUNCILMEMBER PELAEZ. >> PELAEZ: THANK YOU. BREAKING NEWS, BEFORE THIS MEETING I HAD A FANTASTIC INTERCHANGE WITH GORDON HARTMAN.

HE HAS AGREED TO NOT KILL ME IF I PROPOSE THE FOLLOWING: THAT $50,000 BE USED FROM HIS $1 MILLION ALLOCATION FOR MORGAN'S WONDERLAND TO BE ALLOCATED TO SUMMER OF SERVICE, AN ORGANIZATION THAT I KNOW IS IMPORTANT TO COUNCILWOMAN ROCHA GARCIA AND THE MAYOR AND MYSELF . SUMMER OF SERVICE IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT TAKES MIDDLE SCHOOLERS AND HIGH SCHOOLERS WHO REACH A VERY COMMUNITY AND TAKES THEM TO GO DO SERVICE ABROAD, EXPOSING THEM TO DIFFERENT CULTURAL

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IT'S REALLY AN IMPORTANT EDUCATION. THE COMMITMENT WE'VE GOT FROM SUMMER OF SERVICE IS THAT THEY WILL WORK WITH GORDON AND HIS TEAM TO DRAW FROM HIS PROGRAMS TO RECRUIT STUDENTS AND THEN ALSO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE VERY HIGH THRESHOLDS OF HOURS ARE PERFORMED OVER AT MORGAN'S AND THEIR PROGRAM. THAT'S A REALLY BIG DEAL.

I WOULD ASK THAT Y'ALL CONSIDER THAT. I'LL MENTION ONE MORE THING.

CELEBRATE. I SPENT THE EVENING LOOKING AT REALLY WHAT THIS TECHNOLOGY IS AND IT'S A LOT MORE INTERESTING THAN I THOUGHT YESTERDAY. IT'S SOFTWARE THAT ALLOWS OFFICERS AND LAB TECHS AND EXAMINERS TO DOWNLOAD, UNLOAD, DECRYPT, AND EXTRACT ACTIONABLE EVIDENCE FROM MOBILE DEVICES. AND THIS IS THE -- USING THIS TECH AND BEING ABLE TO ACCESS THAT DATA, THEY'RE ABLE TO SOLVE SOME PRETTY SERIOUS CRIMES THAT WITH EVIDENCE THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY UNATTAINABLE. I LEARNED ALSO THAT THIS DATA IS ONLY ACTIONABLE FOR ABOUT THREE DAYS BEFORE THAT WINDOW CLOSES, FOR WHATEVER REASON. PEOPLE UPDATE THEIR PHONES OR PEOPLE DELETE STUFF. WHILE THIS TECHNOLOGY ALLOWS PROSECUTORS TO USE THAT CAPTURED DATA AND THEN CLOSE OUT THE CASES A LOT FASTER. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.

ALSO, I UNDERSTAND THAT IN THE PAST WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO EASILY DECRYPT -- ACCESS AND DECRYPT DATA FROM THIRD-PARTY APPS LIKE WHAT'S APP OR YOUR MYSPACE PAGE OR WHATEVER YOU USE. [LAUGHTER] AND THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO COMPLETE FILE SYSTEM EXTRACTIONS IN THE PAST AND THIS SOFTWARE ALLOWS US TO DO THAT. I THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY INTERESTING TOO BUT WHAT REALLY GOT ME THINKING IS THAT YOU CAN CHASE THIS RABBIT TRAIL DOWN TO THE ACTUAL CRIMES THAT ARE SOLVED. AND THE CRIMES THAT ARE SOLVED MUCH QUICKER ARE THOSE THAT KEEP US UP AT NIGHT. THEY ARE THE DRIVE-BY SHOOTINGS THAT WE HAVE HAD WAY TOO MANY OF. SEXUAL ASSAULTS, CHILD PORNOGRAPHY, KIDNAPPINGS, AND MURDER. AND SO I CAN'T BE MORE SUPPORTIVE THAN I AM OF THIS INITIATIVE AND WHOEVER BROUGHT THIS UP -- I THINK IT WAS YOU, COUNCILWOMAN.

THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. IT'S A REALLY BIG DEAL AND I THINK WE OWE IT TO THOSE VICTIMS TO BE ABLE TO GET CLOSURE ON THEIR CASES AS FAST AS POSSIBLE.

MAYOR, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER PELAEZ.

WE'LL GO NOW TO COUNCILMEMBER MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I'LL GO BACK AND GENERALLY SAY WITH THIS PIECE OF PAPER, THE ATTACHMENT ONE, THAT I'M HAPPY WITH EVERYTHING -- I WON'T SAY I'M HAPPY WITH EVERYTHING BUT I AGREE THAT IT IS A CONSENSUS DOCUMENT AND I SUPPORT THAT. IN THE FIRST ROUND I IDENTIFIED AREAS WHERE I THOUGHT WE HAD OPPORTUNITIES FOR CUTS BUT NOW I WANT TO TALK ABOUT A FEW THINGS THAT I WOULD STILL LIKE TO SEE. ONE IS MOVING NAMP TO CIP.

AGAIN, I THINK WE ALL WANT -- IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE BOTH FUNDS, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT. EARLIER IT WAS A PRIORITY FOR US BUT FOR ME IF IT HAS TO BE REDUCED AND GO INTO ONE BUCKET, I WOULD RATHER SEE IT GO INTO CIP.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE 500K FOR THE REPRODUCTIVE JUSTICE FUND .

I WOULD ALSO -- WE'LL GET INTO ACS AND THE FACT THAT I HEARD YOU SAY THAT RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE THE TRAINING CAPACITY THAT WE DO WITH SAPD. IS THAT ACCURATE?

THAT'S GENERALLY -- >> WALSH: IT'S MORE THAN THAT.

WE HAVE A LOT TO DO AT ACS, THE 29 POSITIONS, TRAINING IS ONE OF THEM.

>> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: REMIND ME TO GO BACK TO THAT POINT. GENERALLY, I WANT TO ADDRESS THE REASON THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE THOSE HIRES IMMEDIATELY.

THE LAST TWO YOU HAVE HEARD ME MENTION BEFORE. THE CREATION OF A GRANT COORDINATOR FOR CRIME PREVENTION WITHIN THE OFFICE OF INNOVATION AND THE EXPANSION OF OUR TEEN CORE PROGRAM WITH TWO JUVENILE CASE MANAGERS. EACH IS ABOUT 62K.

I WOULD BE HAPPY WITH EVEN ONE BUT I DO WANT TO SEE AN EXPANSION TO OUR TEEN COURT PROGRAM . I'LL TOUCH ON ACS. ONE OF THE CHALLENGES I HAVE IS I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE GOTTEN NOW TO THE POINT WHERE WE ALL ARE -- YESTERDAY THERE WAS

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AND ONE OF THE CHALLENGES I HAVE IS THAT IT FEELS LIKE THERE'S ALWAYS A BARRIER TO THE THING THAT WE HAVE TO DO BUT WE DON'T PROPOSE THAT THAT BARRIER BE ALLEVIATED THROUGH SOME FUNDING AMOUNT. RATHER THAN COMPLETELY MOVING FUNDING AND SAYING WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE AN INCREASE THIS FISCAL YEAR, I WOULD HAVE MUCH RATHER SEEN US SAY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T DO IT FOR THIS REASON SO FOR THAT REASON WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THAT BARRIER.

SO WHETHER IT'S THE ONE-TIME EXPENSES, VEHICLES, ADDING A TRAINING OR SOME OTHER THING.

EVEN IF IT'S MOVING SOME OF THE OTHER ADDITIONAL POSITIONS THAT AREN'T DOING PATROL OR AREN'T SERVING AS ACOS -- NO. NOT SERVING AS ACS OFFICERS. I WOULD RATHER SEE US ADDRESS THAT AND I FEEL LIKE WE DON'T GET TO THAT IN THESE CONVERSATIONS AND I FIND THAT REALLY CHALLENGING BUT OVERALL I'M HAPPY WITH WHERE WE'RE GOING.

I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL TOMORROW WHEN THIS IS OVER. I FEEL LIKE I LOOK SIGNIFICANTLY OLDER RIGHT NOW BUT TOMORROW I WILL BE FRESH AND READY TO CAST MY VOTE FOR

THIS. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO ANY COMPETITION ABOUT WHO IS LOOKING OLDER, BUT YOU'RE NOT

WINNING THAT RACE, COUNCILMAN. >> WALSH: COUNCILMAN, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

THESE AMENDMENTS CAME FROM THE COUNCIL. THEY DID NOT COME FROM THE STAFF. AND SO WE'VE HELD OFF BECAUSE THE COUNCIL DESERVED AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT IT OUT IN THE OPEN AS A GROUP. I'M GIVING YOU MY FEEDBACK BECAUSE WHAT IS OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE TO ME IS THAT -- TO COUNCILWOMAN VIAGRAN'S POINT, IF WE MAKE A COMMITMENT WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING, WE'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO DELIVER ON IT. AND NINE TIMES OUT OF TEN WE WILL ALL SCALE ANY WALL TO BE ABLE TO DO IT. I JUST DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE GOT THE CAPACITY TO DO THAT MUCH IN THAT DEPARTMENT IN 12 MONTHS. I'M WITH YOU. AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF WHAT I'M SUGGESTING TO THE COUNCIL YOU APPROVE, WE'RE STILL ACCELERATING.

BECAUSE I PROPOSED -- WHEN WE DID THE TRIAL BUDGET, WE HAD NOTHING.

I PROPOSED THREE YEARS AND IF YOU DO IT OVER TWO YEARS, YOU'RE ACCELERATING STILL.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE SHOULD BE IN A BETTER PLACE IN TERMS OF SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY. I'M IN AGREEMENT. I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK THAT THERE ARE BARRIERS. I'M GIVING YOU A REALISTIC LOGISTICAL MANAGEMENT OPERATIONAL REALITY TO WHAT WE WANT TO DO. WE WANT TO DO A LOT OF STUFF BUT SOMETIMES IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, TO COUNCILWOMAN VIAGRAN'S POINT.

>> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: THANK YOU. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ. AND, ERIK, JUST CONSIDERING THE BACK AND FORTH ON THIS POINT ABOUT ACCELERATING THE RESPONSE IN ACS, MAYBE IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA IF DURING THE MID-YEAR BUDGET WE DID AN ASSESSMENT OF WHERE WE ARE IN TERMS OF TRAINING UP THE NEW CAPACITY AND IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO THROTTLE UP OR DOWN, DEPENDING, THEN WE CAN DO THAT AT THAT TIME. COUNCILMEMBER COURAGE.

>> COURAGE: THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST PASSED OUT TO YOU SOME OF THE SUGGESTIONS THAT I WANTED TO JUST REITERATE THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS LEFT OFF THE CITY MANAGER'S ORIGINAL LIST TO US THIS MORNING WAS A CIP FUNDING. I HEARD SEVERAL OF YOU TALK ABOUT THIS.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT I'VE BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF TOO. SO WHAT I'VE DONE IS I'VE REINTEGRATED THAT INTO THE THOUGHT PROCESS BY ADDING IT AS A 4A ON THE LIST I'VE GIVEN YOU. AND ASKING THAT WE EACH RECEIVE $150,000 IN ADDITION FOR CIP FUNDING, WHICH WOULD BE $1.5 MILLION. WHERE DO WE GET THAT? ON ITEM 3, I TALKED ABOUT THE BALLISTIC BLAST VEHICLES AND I MENTIONED AND THE CITY MANAGER MENTIONED , THEY'LL DO IT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. WHETHER THEY TAKE THE MONEY OUT OF THIS OR WHETHER THEY TAKE IT OUT OF THE $19 MILLION THAT THEY HAVE IN RESERVE FOR FUTURE PURCHASES. I THINK WE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING THE NEEDS THAT WE THINK THIS MONEY CAN FILL MORE THAN JUST THE WAY WE DECIDE TO GO AHEAD AND DO THE BALLISTIC PROTECTION ON VEHICLES. NO DOUBT THAT WE ALL SUPPORT THAT.

ANYWAY, THE RECOMMENDATION THAT I'M MAKING IS THAT WE PUT IN $250,000 THIS YEAR FOR THAT BALLISTIC GLASS. AND THEN LET THE CITY MANAGER USE THE RESOURCES THAT HE HAS AVAILABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THE NEED FOR NEXT YEAR, SEPARATE FROM THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY.

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CHIEF, IS THAT A SOFTWARE ALREADY AVAILABLE TO SAPD USED TODAY THROUGH FBI OR FEMA OR

OTHER SOURCES? >> CHIEF: IT'S AVAILABLE THROUGH HOMELAND SECURITY AND

SECRET SERVICE. >> COURAGE: DO WE USE THAT PRETTY REGULARLY?

>> CHIEF:

>> CHIEF: YES. >> COURAGE: I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO SPEND $200,000 FOR THAT ONE. IT'S ALREADY AVAILABLE. IT MIGHT BE A HASSLE TO GO TO THEIR OFFICE TO GET IT DONE BUT WE'VE DONE IT 25 TIMES LAST YEAR, PROBABLY, RIGHT?

>> CHIEF: I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER BUT WE'VE DONE IT.

>> COURAGE: OKAY. THANK YOU, CHIEF. SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S $200,000 THAT WE CAN REALLOCATE. LAST THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT ON THIS LIST THAT I BROUGHT FORWARD TO YOU IS BIG BROTHERS AND BIG SISTERS AND I'M ASKING FOR $100,000 THIS YEAR AND $100,000 NEXT YEAR. BUT THE TOTAL THAT THESE CHANGES THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT AND THAT I'VE SUGGESTED COME TO $20,388,000.

ALMOST RIGHT WITHIN THE LINEUP THAT THE CITY MANAGER HAD BEEN RECOMMENDING TO US.

I KNOW THERE'S STILL ONE OR TWO OTHER ISSUES THAT OTHERS OF US MAY STILL WANT TO INCORPORATE IN HERE AND I KNOW THAT'S STILL A POINT OF DISCUSSION FOR SEVERAL PEOPLE.

BUT I THINK WE'RE VERY CLOSE AND THERE'S NO DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT IF WE RAN UP A FINAL PRODUCT THAT THIS COUNCIL APPROVED TOMORROW THAT WAS $21 MILLION OR 21.5, THE CITY MANAGER WOULD BE ABLE TO HELP US BALANCE THIS BUDGET. ANYWAY, THOSE ARE MY RECOMMENDATIONS. I JUST WANTED TO BRING THEM UP TO EVERYBODY.

THE LAST THING I WANT TO MENTION IS I STRONGLY SUPPORT MORGAN'S WONDERLAND AND THEIR ASK FOR THE MATCHING GRANT FUNDING. BUT I CAN'T SUPPORT PICKING PIECES OF IT OFF, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW TO FUND, YOU KNOW, ON A LAST MINUTE SOME PROJECTS THAT WE REALLY HAVEN'T HEARD MUCH ABOUT BEFORE. I WANT TO KEEP THAT WHOLE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: TH THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER

COURAGE. COUNCILMEMBER CASTILLO. >> CASTILLO: THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WANTED TO CIRCLE BACK ON A COUPLE OF THINGS.

ONE IS THE ZERO-COST REQUEST, WHICH IS US SUPPORTING COUNCILMEMBER MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ'S REALLOCATION OF THE VACANT SENIOR MANAGEMENT ANALYST OR THE SENIOR MANAGEMENT WITHIN METRO HEALTH FOR A CRIME PREVENTION GRANTS COORDINATOR. I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO MAKE THAT SHIFT AND WE KNOW THOSE SERVICES ARE VERY MUCH NEEDED.

SECONDLY, I WANTED TO CONTINUE TO HIT ON THE NEED TO INCREASE ADDITIONAL FUNDING SO THAT WAY WE CAN SUPPORT CIP-TYPE PROJECTS AND JUST TO REMIND MY COLLEAGUES THESE CAN HELP US TACKLE TRAIL DEVELOPMENTS, DRAINAGE, SHADE STRUCTURES AND DIFFERENT SAFETY FEATURES.

THERE ARE A COUPLE OF AMENDMENTS THAT DID NOT MAKE THE LIST THAT CAN BE COVERED BY CIP FUNDING SUCH AS FUNDING DIAPER CHANGING STATIONS, LIGHTING FOR CRICKET FIELDS COULD BE FUNDED BY CIP. THERE'S REQUESTS FOR MORE FLASHING STOP SIGNS, TRAFFIC SIGNALS AT SOME OF OUR PARKS. AND THEN LITTLE LEAGUE IMPROVEMENTS.

THESE ARE THINGS THAT COULD BE FUNDED THROUGH CIP SO I REALLY WANT TO ENCOURAGE THAT WE FIND A WAY TO IDENTIFY FUNDING TO MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITIES.

I WILL SAY AT EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETING AT LEAST ONE CONSTITUENT WILL MENTION THE NEED FOR SPEED HUMPS. THOSE ARE VERY EXPENSIVE AND IT'S A VERY LENGTHY PROCESS AND I WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE'RE PRESENTED A BUDGET THAT BEEFS UP THAT SUPPORT. AND I UNDERSTAND THERE'S NAMP BUT THERE'S JUST SUCH VAST NEED. LASTLY, I BELIEVE, ERIK, YOU MENTIONED THAT THE

CELLABRIGHT -- >> WALSH: IT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSAL TO ME IN THE

SUMMER. >> CASTILLO: I BELIEVE MY COLLEAGUE MADE A GREAT ARGUMENT BUT HIGHLIGHTING THAT HSI CHARGES $1,000 PER PHONE SO WE END UP PAYING TO UNLOCK IT IF IT'S NOT TIED TO HUMAN TRAFFICKING. THERE'S A WIDE RANGE OF CASES AND UNITS AND THEY ALL DESERVE TO BE ACCESS TO MAKE SURE THEY CAN MOVE THROUGH THEIR CASES IN

A TIMELY MANNER. THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK

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YOU, COUNCILMEMBER CASTILLO. COUNCILMEMBER WHYTE. >> WHYTE: SO LOOKING AT JOHN'S LIST THAT HE JUST GAVE US, I THINK THIS COULD REALLY HELP US GET THERE.

IF WE LOOK AT THE CELLABRIGHT WE NEED 500 GRANT THERE. WE HAVE $500,000 IN THIS BUDGET TO MAINTAIN 20 ADDITIONAL PIECES OF ART. IF WE ONLY DO TEN OF THOSE, THEN THAT'S 250 GRAND WE FREE UP THAT WE CAN PUT RIGHT IN TO THE CELLABRIGHT.

THEN WHEN WE GO UP TO THE NAMP AND THE CIP, JOHN'S GOT IT IN HERE FOR $3 MILLION AND I WOULD TELL YOU WE SHOULD MAKE -- DROP THE NAMP TO A MILLION DOLLARS, DROP THE CIP TO A MILLION AND THEN PUT THAT MILLION DOLLARS BACK INTO NO. 3, THE BALLISTIC GLASS FOR THE POLICE FORCE.

TO ME, A PROPOSAL LIKE THAT GETS US CLOSER TO WHERE I THINK WE WANT TO BE.

I WANT TO MENTION COUNCILWOMAN VIAGRAN'S STATEMENT REGARDING DOING THESE AMENDMENTS EARLIER. I THINK THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD IDEA.

TO HAVE ALL THIS OCCUR WITHIN A WEEK OF THE FINAL VOTE ON THE BUDGET AGAIN, I'M NEW SO MAYBE THERE'S SOME REASON THAT WE DO IT LIKE THIS.

I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT I'M FOR WOMEN'S HEALTH AND I WOULD LOVE IT IF WE COULD HAVE AN AGREEMENT HERE TODAY THAT THIS $500,000 WILL ONLY GO TO ORGANIZATIONS THAT PROVIDE FOR WOMEN'S HEALTH WITH THE EXCEPTION OF PROVIDING ABORTION ACCESS.

IF WE COULD DO THAT, I THINK WE MAY BE ABLE TO GET SOME SORT OF AGREEMENT THERE.

THANKS, MAYOR. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER WHYTE.

ALL RIGHT. KEEP MOVING. DID YOU WANT TO MENTION

ANYTHING, ERIK? >> WALSH: I'LL JUST SAY THAT, MAYOR, THAT PART OF THE LIST COMES FROM THE WORK SESSION COMMENTS THAT YOU GUYS GIVE IN ALL THESE BUDGET WORK SESSIONS. IT DIDN'T ALL COME UP AT THE END.

THE OTHER PART OF THAT IS THAT WE DO HAVE TO LIVE WITHIN OUR MEANS AND ONE OF THE OPTIONS WE TALKED ABOUT YESTERDAY -- AND NOT TO CLOUD THE WATER -- WAS TO TAKE THAT $15 MILLION AND SET IT ASIDE AND START TALKING ABOUT THAT SEPARATE AND APART FROM THE BUDGET AMENDMENT.

AND SO YOU'RE RIGHT. AND IT CHANGES YEAR TO YEAR, COUNCILMAN.

THREE YEARS AGO WE CUT THE BUDGET BETWEEN PROPOSED AND ADOPTED BECAUSE REVENUES WENT DOWN IN BETWEEN THERE. IT IS A LITTLE UNUSUAL BUT THE COUNCIL ALWAYS HAS THE FLEXIBILITY BALANCING THE BUDGET AND ADOPTING IT. YOU DON'T ALWAYS HAVE TO RUSH TO MAKE A DECISION EITHER. THAT'S ALWAYS AN OPTION THAT THE FULL COUNCIL HAS TO HAVE A

CONVERSATION IN OCTOBER OR NOVEMBER ON THOSE ELEMENTS. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: TRUTH BE TOLD, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE MARGINS AT THIS POINT AND WE COULD ACTUALLY DO THIS FOR AS LONG AS WE WANT TO. I MEAN, REALLY, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT $20,000 HERE, $50,000 THERE, WE COULD DO THIS AS LONG AS Y'ALL WANT BUT AT SOME POINT WE'RE GOING TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS IS AS CLOSE TO CONSENSUS AS WE CONSIDER REASONABLE AND TAKE A VOTE.

WE ARE MOSTLY THERE WITH RESPECT TO THE ITEMS LISTED. WE'LL CONTINUE ON WITH

COUNCILMEMBER KAUR. >> KAUR: THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WANTED TO REITERATE MY SUPPORT FOR THE ACS STOREFRONT BETWEEN 1, 5, AND 7. AND REECHO COUNCILWOMAN VIAGRAN'S COMMENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE HITTING THOSE MARKS.

AND, ERIK, IF I UNDERSTOOD YOU CORRECTLY, WE ARE GOING TO BE CONTRACTING THAT SERVICE OUT.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT ACS IS GOING TO HANDLE. >> WALSH: WE'RE GOING TO BE

LEASING SPACE, BUILDING OUT THE SPACE AND CONTRACTING IT OUT. >> KAUR: FOR 2025 WHEN THAT BUDGET IS AT 530, IS THAT JUST OPERATIONS FUNDING OR WHAT'S THE ADDITIONAL --

>> WALSH: OPERATIONS AND LEASE. YES, MA'AM.

>> KAUR: WHEN WE LEASE OUT THE BUILDING, DO WE GET REVENUE OR DO WE GET ADDITIONAL

FUNDING? >> WALSH: WE WILL MAKE NO MONEY OVER THERE.

THIS IS NOT A REVENUE PRODUCER. >> KAUR: IT'S FOR THE COMMUNITY. UNDERSTOOD. I WANT TO REITERATE MY SUPPORT. WHEN COUNCILMEMBER GAVITO MENTIONED THAT'S ONLY POSSIBLE

FOUR DAYS A WEEK, IS THAT TRUE? >> WALSH: I THINK WE NEED TO

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PROVIDER WE'VE GOT TO GET. >> WE FOUND THAT IN WORKING WITH SOME OF THE VETERINARIANS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THEY WOULD PREFER TO DO A 4/10 SCHEDULE SO THEY COULD DO PRO BONO ON THE SIDE. THAT'S WHERE WE FOUND IT TO BE MOST EFFECTIVE.

>> KAUR: AS WE ARE LOOKING FOR OPERATORS, ENGAGING OUR ACTIVISTS, I'M SURE THEY HAVE IDEAS. THEY PRESENTED SOME CONTRACTORS THAT MIGHT BE OPTIONS.

LISTENING TO THE PEOPLE WOULD BE GREAT WHEN LOOKING FOR AN OPERATOR.

I WANT TO REITERATE COUNCILMAN PELAEZ'S SUPPORT FOR THE SERVICE.

IF WE HAVE SOME FUNDING TO GIVE TO THEM, REALLY SUPPORT THAT AND THE REALLOCATION OF THE GRANTS POSITION FROM THE METRO HEALTH TO THE INNOVATION. ALL OF US WOULD AGREE OUR INNOVATION DEPARTMENT COULD USE MORE FUNDING. AND THIS IS A GREAT PROPOSAL, COUNCILMAN COURAGE, SO THANK YOU FOR FINDING THE MONEY FOR CIP.

I SUPPORT THIS MOVING MONEY FROM THREE TO FOUR TO INCLUDE MONEY FOR CIP.

THANKS. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER KAUR.

NOW WE'LL GO TO COUNCILMEMBER VIAGRAN. >> VIAGRAN: THANK YOU.

ERIK, YOU COULD HAVE STARTED WITH OPTION B THAT YOU LIKE THAT THE BEST YESTERDAY AND WE WOULDN'T BE HERE TODAY. BUT WE ARE HERE AND I AM NOT GOING TO MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE HARD WORK THAT MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES HAVE DONE. I DO WANT TO ECHO SUPPORT FOR COORDINATOR POSITION OR A GRANT COORDINATOR. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TITLE IS. BUT TO INNOVATION, TO LOOK FOR GRANTS, NOT JUST FOR CRIME PREVENTION BUT JUST FOR ACTIVATING OUR VACANT SPACES. I BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE GRANTS OUT THERE AND I THINK THIS WOULD COVER WHAT SOME OF WHAT COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO ASKED IN TERMS OF VACANT LOTS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT. AGAIN, IF I HAD TO PICK BETWEEN NAMP AND CIP, I WOULD PICK CIP. BUT THE OTHER THING IS I DO WANT TO ECHO WHAT THE MAYOR SAID ABOUT THE EQUITY LENS AND I DON'T LIKE THAT WE ARE DOING THIS AND NOT TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE EQUITY LENS. BECAUSE WHEN WE DIVIDE IT BETWEEN THE TEN, AS NICE AS THAT SOUNDS, IT'S NOT MAKING A DIFFERENCE IN THE UNDERSERVED DISTRICTS. THE OTHER THING IS I AM VERY PROUD OF OUR PUBLIC WORKS BUT OUR BANDWIDTH AND OUR PROJECTS ALREADY ARE SO MUCH. AND I HAVE RESIDENTS WAITING FOR 2030 ON SOME OF THESE PROJECTS SO I'M CONCERNED THAT JUST PUTTING THIS MILLION, WHEN IT COULD BE USED IN OTHER PROJECTS THIS YEAR IS NOT THE BEST USE OF OUR DOLLARS.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE -- TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO HAVE TWO YEARS FOR THE REPRODUCTIVE JUSTICE FUND. AND THE OTHER THING FOR MORGAN'S WONDERLAND INCLUSION FOUNDATION, WHILE I WANT THEM TO GET TO THAT MILLION, I DO THINK THERE'S OTHER OPTIONS OUT THERE AND I'M NOT SURE, ANDY, IF IT'S -- WHAT COUNCILMAN PELAEZ SAID ABOUT TAKING MONEY FROM -- THAT'S NOT THIS MONEY, RIGHT? WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY SORT OF

CARVE OUTS FOR COUNCILMAN PELAEZ'S SUMMER PROGRAM. >> SEGOVIA: IF I UNDERSTOOD -- COUNCILMAN PELAEZ CAN CLARIFY IT BUT WHAT I HEARD COUNCILMAN PELAEZ SAY, COUNCILWOMAN, IS IT WOULD BE MORGAN'S. IT WOULDN'T BE THE COUNCIL.

>> VIAGRAN: I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED BY THAT. >> WALSH: I'M SORRY.

AS I UNDERSTOOD IT, MORGAN'S -- BASED ON YOUR AMENDMENT, MORGAN'S WOULD BE 950 AND THE

OTHER 50 WOULD GO TO THE SUMMER OF SERVICE. >> VIAGRAN: IS THAT STRICTLY LEGAL? WE HAVEN'T DESIGNATED THAT MONEY TO MORGAN'S YET.

>> SEGOVIA: I THINK THAT'S OFFERED AS AN AMENDMENT, COUNCILWOMAN.

IT WAS OFFERED AS AN AMENDMENT. >> VIAGRAN: THAT WOULD BE AN AMENDMENT THAT WOULD COME TOMORROW. I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN COURAGE THAT I WOULD NOT BE FOR THAT AMENDMENT. I WOULD EITHER WANT THE MONEY WHOLE OR $500,000, $500,000. THANK YOU AGAIN BUT, AGAIN, NEXT TIME LEAD WITH THE OPTION

2. THANK YOU. >> WALSH: THE 500 OR 500,

WHAT IS THAT? >> VIAGRAN: NO, 500 FOR MORGAN'S WONDERLAND AND THEN

MOVING $500,000 TO REPRODUCTIVE FUND. >> WALSH: GOT IT.

YES, MA'AM. >> VIAGRAN: OR BACK TO CIP. EITHER/OR.

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>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER VIAGRAN. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS?

IF NOT, I'M GOING TO WRAP IT UP BEFORE WE GO TO EXEC. >> WALSH: CAN I JUST

SUMMARIZE? >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: GO AHEAD, ERIK.

WELL, I WANT TO ADD MY COMMENTS AND YOU CAN WORK OFF MY SUMMARY.

DEPENDING ON WHERE I END UP. YOU NEVER KNOW. SO LET ME JUST SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS I THINK ARE RELEVANT TO THE CONVERSATION. FIRST, AS I SAID WHEN WE WALKED IN, THE PLAN B OR THE ATTACHMENT, THE NEW ATTACHMENT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THIS IS TRYING TO SORT OF STEER US AS CLOSE TO CENTER LINE AS POSSIBLE, BASED ON ALL THE COMMENTS. WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO THAT INFINITUM BUT IF WE HAD TO WALK AWAY AND IT WAS THE ATTACHMENT AT OUR DESK, I WOULD SAY THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD OUTCOME, BASED ON ALL THE CONVERSATIONS. NOW, A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION, JUST BECAUSE THEY CONTINUE TO COME UP. ON THE CAPITAL SIDE, WE DID TALK YESTERDAY ABOUT EQUITY. AND THE MORE THAT WE SET ASIDE THAT IS DIVIDED UP ONE TENTH, THE MORE WE DO THAT THE FURTHER WE LEAVE TO ACTUALLY APPLYING EQUITY TO OUR RESOURCES.

ERIK, THE REASON WHY I THINK YOU STRIKE A GOOD COMPROMISE HERE IS YOU HAVE REDUCED THE AMOUNT THAT'S GOING SPECIFICALLY TO DISTRICTS AND YOU HAVE INCREASED THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE COLLECTIVELY IDENTIFIED ARE IMPORTANT.

THAT'S ESSENTIALLY HOW THIS PROCESS SHOULD PLAY OUT. SO I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT BUT, AGAIN, I WOULD RESIST, AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, ADDING MORE MONEY SPECIFICALLY DIVIDED BY TEN INTO EACH DISTRICT. AND LET'S COLLECTIVELY LOOK AT WHAT DOES THE COMMUNITY NEED WITH REGARD TO ADDITIONAL CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE DOLLARS.

THAT SAID, I THINK THOSE REMAINING DOLLARS ARE ALLOCATED VERY WELL HERE.

I WOULD JUST ALSO LIKE TO MENTION A COUPLE OF TIMES IT'S COME UP.

WE SHOULD APPLY A LITTLE PRESSURE TO THE NONPROFITS IN OUR COMMUNITY TO COME UP WITH MATCHING FUNDS. YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'VE ALL WORKED IN NONPROFITS BEFORE.

THE REALITY IS EVERY NONPROFIT THAT'S FUNCTIONING IS RAISING MONEY AND IT'S REALLY, REALLY HARD. SO EVERY DOLLAR THAT WE APPLY TO A NONPROFIT IS ESSENTIALLY ALREADY A MATCHING FUND. AND THAT INCLUDES MORGAN'S. AND SO THAT'S WHY I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN REMAIN WHOLE. I DO SUPPORT THE SUMMER OF SERVICE PROGRAM, THOUGH, SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED, YOU KNOW, AND GORDON HAS AGREED TO SERVE WITH THAT REMAINING ALLOCATION, STUDENTS WHO ARE SPECIAL NEEDS TO ENJOY THAT PROGRAM, THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT COMPROMISE.

BUT, REGARDLESS, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. AND SO LASTLY ON THE NONPROFIT FRONT, NEXT WEEK IS THE BIG GIVE. SO IF EVERYBODY IS ENJOYING THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT NONPROFITS NOW, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO FIND YOUR FAVORITE NONPROFITS AND GIVE BIG TO THEM, BECAUSE THEY NEED IT, NOT JUST FROM THE CITY GOVERNMENT.

WITH THAT, I'M REALLY HAPPY. THIS HAS BEEN A GREAT CONVERSATION.

AGAIN, I THINK WE'VE MAINTAINED OUR SPIRIT OF COMPROMISE. WE GOT A LOT DONE.

WE'LL LOOK FORWARD, ERIK, TO YOUR FINAL AMENDMENT TOMORROW -- AMENDMENT LIST.

AND THAT WILL BE THE DOCUMENT THAT WE VOTE ON. NOW, IF THERE ARE MINOR TWEAKS THAT WE WANT TO DO HERE AND THERE ON THE DAIS, IT'S A LITTLE MESSY BUT THERE IS THAT OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT BUT, AGAIN, WE'VE TRIED TO FIND AS CLOSE TO CENTER LINE AS POSSIBLE WITH THIS. ERIK, NOW YOU GET THE LAST WORD.

>> WALSH: MAYOR, YOU DID A GREAT JOB OF SUMMARIZING. THE TAKEAWAYS WERE FOR ME WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THIS THIS EVENING AND BE PREPARED FOR TOMORROW.

THANK YOU. YOU DID A GREAT JOB, MAYOR. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: OH, THANK

[EXECUTIVE SESSION At any time during the meeting, the City Council may recess into executive session in the Presidio Conference Room to consult with the City Attorney's Office (Texas Government Code Section 551.071) and deliberate or discuss any of the following:  ]

WE DO WANT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION IN EXEC SO THE TIME IS 4:05 P.M. ON SEPTEMBER 13, 2023. THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO WILL NOW MEET IN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSULT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.071 AND TO DELIBERATE OR DISCUSS THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS PURSUANT TO SECTION 551.087. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

PURCHASE, EXCHANGE, LEASE OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY PURSUANT TO SECTION 551.072, REAL PROPERTY. LEGAL ISSUES RELATED TO LITIGATION INVOLVING THE CITY -- AFTERNOON, THE TIME IS 5:00 P.M. ON SEPTEMBER 13TH, 2023.

CITY COUNCIL HAS RECON15ED FROM ITS EXECUTIVE SECTION.

NO OFFICIAL ACTION WAS TAKEN. OUR BUDGET SESSION IS NOW

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.