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>> HAVRDA: GOOD MORNING. WELCOME, EVERYONE, TO OUR SEPTEMBER MEETING OF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. LET'S GET STARTED. WE HAVE A FULL AGENDA,
MADAM CLERK, IF YOU'LL PLEASE CALL ROLL. >> CLERK:
MA'AM, WE HAVE A QUORUM. >> HAVRDA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
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WE HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY, RIGHT? OH, OKAY.WE'LL GO TO APPROVAL OF THE AUGUST VEEBT MEETING.
I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SO MOVED.
>> HAVRDA: ANYBODY SECOND? >> SECOND.
>> HAVRDA: OKAY. WITH A ME MOTION AND A SECOND, SAY AYE.
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(AYES.) >> HAVRDA: ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES.
WE HAVE MR. JOHN WOOD. MR. WOOD, IF YOU'LL APPROACH THE MICROPHONE.
>> THIS IS IN REGARD TO SECTION NUMBER FOUR. >> HAVRDA: YES.
>> IS THIS THE APPROPRIATE TIME. >> HAVRDA: YES, SIR.
>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS JOHN WOOD. I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR OAKLAND HEIGHTS. WE'RE A COMMUNITY OF ABOUT 216 HOMES IN DISTRICT 8 ON THE CROSS OF DE ZAVALA AND VANCE JACKSON. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE 18-WHEELER PARKING. (BOULEVARD WHICH IS A CUT THROUGH STREET IS A MAIN CONDUIT. TO COME HOME EVERY DAY AND FOR PEOPLE TO GO TO WORK. EVERY DAY, THERE ARE 18-WHEELERS PARKED ON THAT STREET. THEY'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR YEARS. THANKS TO THE EFFORTS OF OUR COUNCILMAN'S OFFICE, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH INDIVIDUAL BUSINESSES TO WORK ON OVERNIGHT PARKING AND TRY TO CONVINCE EACH BUSINESS TO PUT THIS -- THESE SIGNS IN FRONT.
AND THIS HAS YIELDED SOME SUCCESS, BUT WITHOUT A UNIFIED APPROACH ACROSS THE CITY -- THESE 18-WHEELERS DO DAMAGE THE STREETS. THEY'RE NOT DESIGNED FOR THEIR WEIGHT. I I ALSO WANT TO FURTHER MENTION, WE SENT A LETTER BACK IN 2020 TO THE TRANSPORTATION SERVICES SECTION MANAGER REQUESTING TO HAVE SIGNS ON EVERY ONE OF THOSE BUSINESSES.
THIS LETTER WAS SIGNED BY MYSELF AND MY COUNTERPART AT WOOD LAND PARK.
IT WAS ALSO SUPPORTED BY THE DISTRICT 8 AND CAPTAIN JOHN MOORE FROM SAN ANTONIO RESCUE 51. THE FIRE STATION IS SITTING RIGHT THERE ON BECKWITH, 18-WHEELERS MANY TIMES DO YOU TURNS RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE FIRE STATION PRENLTING A HAZARD FOR EMERGENCY RESPONDERS.
THIS IS A SAFETY CONCERN. AND I DO WANT TO SUPPORT THE CITY AND MOVING FORWARD WITH A MOTION TO PUT NO OVERNIGHT PARKING FOR 18-WHEELERS ACROSS THE CITY. AGAIN, THIS IS NOT MEANT TO DEMONIZE THE TRUCKING INDUSTRY, THEY'RE AN INTEGRAL PART OF OUR ECONOMY, BUT I DO FEEL THERE'S A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN SAFELY PARK THEIR RIGS, AND THAT IS NOT ON OUR STREET. THANK YOU.
AND I'LL JUST OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
>> HAVRDA: THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT, MR. WOOD. OKAY.
WE'LL MOVE OVER TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. ARE THEY ALL INDIVIDUAL ITEMS, I GUESS? OKAY. I'M SORRY.
DOES ANYBODY WANT TO PULL ANY ITEMS FROM OUR CONSENT AGENDA? OKAY. WELL, NEN I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE CONCEPT AGE AGENDA. OH, I ONLY HAD ONE PERSON.
WAS THERE MORE PEOPLE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? >>
>> HAVRDA: OKAY. IF YOU'LL ALLOW ME TO -- WE'LL GET THE CONSENT -- WELL, WE SHOULDN'T VOTE ON IT BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENT.
NO, LET'S GO AHEAD. WE'LL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
I'M SORRY, RAISE YOUR HAND AGAIN IF YOU'RE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
>> IS THAT CORRECT? I CAN'T SEE AROUND THE PILLAR.
OKAY. WOULD YOU GIVE JUST A MOMENT TO GIVE YOUR NAMES TO AURORA, AND THEN I'LL -- I'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL UP ANANDA, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU. YEAH, AND THEN IF THE THREE OF YOU WILL GET
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YOUR NAMES TO AURORA, AND THEN I'LL CALL. OKAY.GO AHEAD, ANANDA. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> THANK YOU.
>> HAVRDA: YES, MA'AM. >> PUBLIC SAFETY CONTINUES TO BE ONE, IF NOT THE TOP ISSUE FOR SAN ANTONIANS. INDEED, WE ALL WANT OURSELVES AND OUR LOVED ONES TO FEEL SAFE WHEN OUT AND ABOUT IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT TRUE COMMUNITY SAFETY TAKES A HOLISTIC APPROACH.
IT'S MULTIFACETED. THAT IS WHY I'M HERE TODAY SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OF THE OFFICE OF CRIME PREVENTION AND RECIDIVISM.
OUR SAFETY IS TOO LARGE AN ISSUE TO ASSIGN AS A PROGRAM TO ONE SINGLE DEPARTMENT THAT'S ALREADY FOCUSED ON MULTIPLE PROGRAMS OR INITIATIVES.
OUR SAFETY DESERVES A FULL-TIME DEDICATED OFFICE WHOSE SOLE MISSION IS TO RESEARCH AND FIND SOLUTIONS TO ONE OF THE MOST PRESSING ISSUES OF OUR TIME POSTPANDEMIC, OUR SAFETY. IN AUGUST 2020 THE CITY DECLARED RACISM AS A PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS, ACKNOWLEDGING OUR HISTORY OF ECONOMIC SEGREGATION AND REDLINING, A PRACTICE THAT STILL CONTINUES TO THIS DAY, AND CONTINUES TO CONTRIBUTE TO AN ECONOMIC GAP THAT CONTINUES TO CONTRIBUTE EVEN FURTHER DESPERATION AND CRIME IN OUR CITY.
DECADES OF STUDY SHOW THAT POVERTY IS THE BIGGEST PRECURSOR TO CRIME, AND IN 2020, SAN ANTONIO WAS TIED FOR THE POU POOREST OF ALL CITIES IN THE NATION. STUDIES ALSO PROVE THAT MORE POLICING HAS THE SMALLEST EFFECT IN CRIME PRODUCTION, BETTER INCREASING ACCESS TO RESOURCES AND PUBLIC HEALTH.
IF WE DO NOT ADDRESS THE POVERTY, MAKE NO MISTAKE YOU WILL SEE LITTLE IMPROVEMENT IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY IN COMING YEARS. THE OFFICE OF CRIME PREVENTION AND RECIDIVISM IS THE MOST COMMON SENSE TO BUILDING A SAFER SAN ANTONIO. WE NEED EVIDENCE-BASED, CULTURALLY COMPETENT AND DATA-DRIVEN INITIATIVES TO NOT ONLY BUILD OUR COMMUNITY OUT OF PRO VERITY BUT BUILD THAT SAFER SAN ANTONIO WE WANT TO SEE.
ONE THAT ADDRESSES CRIME PREVENTION, RESPONSE TO CRIME AND RECIDIVISM ALTOGETHER. THE OFFICE WOULD HIRE CRIMINOLOGISTS AND DATA PROFESSION SHLS THAT WOULD WORK WITH COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE ALREADY DOING THE WORK IN OUR COMMUNITIES. PLEASE FUND AND APPROVE THE OFFICE OF CRIME PREVENTION AND RESITED VISM.
THANK YOU. >> HAVRDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
LEANORA WALKER. >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.
>> HAVRDA: GOOD MORNING, MRS. WALKER. YOU'LL HAVE THREE
MINUTES. >> THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO TAKE THIS TIME BECAUSE I WANTED TO CLARIFY HOW I AM SUPPORT FOR THE COUNCILMAN JAY LYNN RODRIGUEZ REQUEST FOR THE OFFICE OF CRIME PREVENTION.
I WORK WITH FREED TEXAS. WE HAVE AN ORGANIZATION, IT'S A VERY HOLLESTIC APPROACH. I THINK THIS OFFICE WOULD BE GREAT BECAUSE IT WANTS TO WORK WITH ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS OURSELVES TO REALLY GET TO THE ROOT ISSUES THAT ARE GOING ON WITH OUR FORMERLY INCARCERATED, OUR HOMELESS POPULATION THAT IS NOW AND THE RACISM THAT HAS BEEN FOR SEVERAL DECADES. I ALSO WANT TO ADD AND SAY THANK YOU TO THE SAPD DEPARTMENT FOR ALLOWING ME TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THEM.
WITH THE WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO TOGETHER, WE HAVE ALSO BEEN ABLE TO OFFER PAY TO OUR FORMERLY INCARCERATED WHILE THEY'RE DOING THEIR COURSES AND CLASSES. I THINK THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE CAN DO TOGETHER AS A CITY WHEN WE START WORKING TOGETHER AS A CITY FOR OUR PEOPLE IN TREATING THEM AS HUMAN BEINGS FIRST. I ALSO WANT TO ADD, TOO, THAT THIS OFFICE AND POSITIONS, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT THEY WOULD BE REPRESENTED BY FORMERLY INCARCERATED PEOPLE. WE DO KNOW WHAT WE NEED, WE DO SERVICE AND WE HAVE ABUNDANCE. WE ARE OFTEN PORTRAYED IN A LIGHT OF NEGLECT AND EVIL, AND WE HAVE A STIGMA THAT'S PUT AGAINST US. I WANT TO CHANGE THAT STIGMA.
MANY OF US WANT TO CHANGE THAT STIGMA, BECAUSE WE ARE DOING THINGS THAT ARE GREAT. WE HAVE OVERCOME SO MANY SYSTEM AT CAL THINGS AND WE WANT TO SHARE THAT WISDOM WITH OTHERS. FREED TEXAS WANTS TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH CITY, CONTINUE WORKING WITH EACH OF YOU CITY COUNCILMEN AND WOMEN TO ACTUALLY LOOK TOWARDS THE FUTURE WHERE WE CAN NOT ONLY REDUCE RECIDIVISM BUT HEAL OUR COMMUNITY THROUGH MANY ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE WORKING TO DO THIS WORK, AND WE WANT TO BE AT THE
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TABLE. I ASK YOU IN THE FUTURE WHEN YOU'RE HAVING THESE MEETINGS ABOUT WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO REDUCE RECIDIVISM, I AM OFFERING AND EXTENDING MYSELF AS THE CEO AND FOUNDER OF FREED TEXAS TO COME TO THESE MEETINGS AND SPEAK WITH YOU AND ACTUALLY HAVE A COMMUNICATION WHERE WE CAN WORK TOGETHER AND ACTUALLY RESOLVE THE ISSUES.PEOPLE ARE DYING. PEOPLE ARE HURTING. PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HURTING AND DYING FOR WAY TOO LONG. MY CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILIES OF THE OFFICERS AND MY CONDOLENCES ALSO TO THE FAMILIES OF THE PEOPLE THAT WERE IN THIS HORRIFIC SHOOTING THAT WE HAD JUST VERY RECENTLY HAPPEN. THERE NEEDS TO BE RESOLVE.
FREED TEXAS HAS 100% RATE WITH OUR FORMERLY INCARCERATED, YES, 100% RATE THAT THEY DON'T GO BACK. THEY HEAL, THEY GET RESOURCES, THEY GET JOBS AND THEY GET EXPERIENCE BY OTHER FORMERLY INCARCERATED PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF THAT CAN HELP THEM THROUGH THESE TREACHEROUS TIMES. SO I ASK YOU AS A COMMUNITY, AS A CITIZEN, AS A LOVER OF GOD AND A LOVER OF PEOPLE TO PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT DOING THIS. WE DON'T NEED KRLTS OUT RIGHT NOW JUST TO STUDY THIS. IF YOU WANT TO, CHECK OUT A HISTORY BOOK OR THE GEN CROW LAWS. WE CAN START THERE. THANK YOU SO MUCH, AND
GLORY BE TO GOD. >> HAVRDA: THROUGH, MRS. WALKER.
APOLOGIZE FOR THE INCONVENIENCE, MAYBE A TECHNICAL ERROR, BUT ALSO THANK YOU TO AURORA FOR FACILITATING THAT. I DON'T EVER WANT TO STIFLE PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S SOME KIND OF TECHNICAL GLITCH, I'M NOT SURE. BUT ALSO REALLY THANK YOU AURORA FOR SUPPORTING MY DECISION. AND, OF COURSE, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TO SPEAK TODAY. WE'LL MOVE ON -- WE'LL
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PICK UP WHERE WE LEFT OFF. WE HAD A MOTION, I'M NOTSURE WE HAD A SECOND FOR CONSENT. >>
>> HAVRDA: OKAY. YOU DID SECOND? OKAY.
IS THERE A SECOND, LET ME ASK IT LIKE THAT, FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA.
OKAY. >> AND THEN COUNCILWOMAN KAUR IS A SECOND. OKAY.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE? (AYES.)
>> HAVRDA: ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. MOTION CARRIES.
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SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM FOUR. COUNCILWOMAN, ITEM NUMBER FOUR, AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, IS A RECOMMENDATION ON A CCR THAT WAS AUTHORED BY COUNCILMAN PELAEZ TO REGULATE OVERNIGHT PARKING OF OVERSIZED COMMERCIAL VEHICLES ONION RESIDENTIAL PUBLIC STREETS. CHIEF PLAN TON IS GOING TO BE MAKING THE PRESENTATION FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. CHIEF?>> CHIEF: THANK YOU. CAN YOU HEAR ME? THANK YOU.
MORNING, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.
PRESENTATION WITH THE BACKGROUND, HOW WE GOT HERE TODAY.
AS THE GENTLEMEN MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, IT WAS A CCR SUBMITTED BY COUNCILMEMBER PELAEZ BACK IN MAY. THE CCR REQUESTED THAT WE REVISE THE CITY CODE TO REGULATE THE OVERNIGHT PARKING OF OVERSIZED COMMERCIAL VEHICLES OVERNIGHT IN A MANNER THAT IS BETTER PROTECTS THE RIGHTS OF RESIDENTS, THOSE TRANSGRESSING OUR ROADS AND HOMEOWNERS AND TO REVIEW AND EVALUATE REGULATIONS IN MAJOR TEXAS CITIES.
IT WAS REVIEWED AT THE GOVERNMENTS COMMITTEE IN DECEMBER AND SUBSEQUENTLY FORWARDED TO PUBLIC SAFETY FOR CONSIDERATION.
SO THIS IS A REVIEW OF OUR CURRENT LAWS AND ORDINANCES THAT AFFECT THE OVERSIZED VEHICLES AND THEIR PARKING. SO WE HAVE BOTH STATE LAW AND LOCAL ORDINANCES THAT PROHIBIT SOME OF THAT PARKING.
CURRENTLY, STATE LAW IN THE TRANSPORTATION CODE PROHIBITS THE PARKING OF COMMERCIAL OVERSIZED VEHICLES OVER 26,000 POUNDS IN OR NEAR RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS BETWEEN 10:00 P.M. AND 6:00 A.M.
AND ALSO UNDER OUR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, OUR UDC SECTION 35 WHICH IS PRIMARILY ENFORCED BY CODE ENFORCEMENT PROHIBITS THE PARKING OF OVERSIZED VEHICLES WITHIN THE RESTRICTED PROPERTY AREA OF LOTS AND RESIDENTS, AND THAT'S PRIMARILY THE FRONT YARD.
SIMILARLY SECTION 19 OF THE UDC, WHICH IS ENFORCED BY THE SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT AND CCDO, -- FOR RESIDENTIAL USE IN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS. SO AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THESE LAWS, THE PRIMARY PROHIBITION RIGHT NOW IS IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS FOR THE PARKING OF THESE OVERSIZED COMMERCIAL VEHICLES.
THIS SLIDE REFERENCES A LINE GRAPH FOR OUR ENFORCEMENT AS IT RELATES TO SECTION 19, WHICH WAS THE LAST ONE I MENTIONED, THE PARKING OF THESE
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OVERSIZED VEHICLES IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS OUT ON THE STREET, ENFORCED BY SAPD AND CCDO, AND YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE DIP THERE IN '21, BUT IN 2022 AND 2023, THAT '23 NUMBER IS STILL IN PROGRESS FOR THE CALENDAR YEAR, BUT IT CONTINUES TO BE AN ISSUE AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO CITE FOR THOSE VIOLATIONS.SO THE OUTCOMES OF THOSE VIOLATIONS OF THE SECTION 19 SECTION OF THE UDC, AGAIN, SAME FIVE-YEAR PERIOD, YOU CAN SEE THERE ROUGH SPLIT, EVEN SPLIT THERE BETWEEN THOSE THAT PAID THE FINE AND DID NOT PAY THE FINE.
A LITTLE OVER 1100 EACH. 160 OR SO THAT WERE NOT GUILTY OR NOT LIABLE, A COUPLE OF ADMINISTRATIVE CLOSURES, AND THEN WE STILL HAVE A COUPLE DOZEN OR SO THAT ARE SCHEDULED TO APPEAR IN COURT IN THE FUTURE.
SO WE CONTINUE TO ENFORCE ON THIS. AND IT CONTINUES TO GO TO COURT. IN LINE WITH THE REQUEST IN THE CCR, WE DID REVIEW WHAT OTHER CITIES, MAJOR CITIES IN TEXAS ARE DOING.
AUSTIN IS VERY SIMILAR TO US, THEY RESTRICT PARKING OF THESE VEHICLES, THESE OVERSIZED VEHICLES IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS, BUT SIMILARLY TO US, NO CURRENT RESTRICTIONS FOR OTHER THAN RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
HOUSTON, THEY RESTRICT OVERNIGHT BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 2:00 A.M. AND 6:00 A.M., AND THAT'S CITYWIDE. ALL STREETS, EXCEPT FOR LOADING AND UNLOADING, SO YOU JUST HAVE A TEMPORARY TIME PERIOD THERE WHERE YOU CAN BE ON THE STREETS. FORT WORTH ALSO RESTRICTS IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS, BUT ADDS IN RESTRICTIONS FOR PARKING MORE THAN A CERTAIN TIME PERIOD, WHICH IS A TWO-HOUR TIME PERIOD IN ANY AREA THAT'S NOT ZONED RESIDENTIAL. SO IT GIVES YOU TWO HOURS TO PARK OR STAND IN THE NONRESIDENTIAL AREAS. AND DALLAS ALSO RESTRICTS PARKING CITYWIDE ON ANY PUBLIC STREET EXCEPT FOR THE LOADING OR UNLOADING OF GOODS AND FOR MECHANICAL REPAIR. SO HOUSTON, FORT WORTH AND DALLAS ALL HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL RESTRICTIONS OUTSIDE OF RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
SO AFTER THAT REVIEW, OUR PROPOSED ORDINANCE AMENDMENT WOULD BE TO ADD
A SECTION TO ARTICLE 6 OF CHAPTER. >>CHAPTER 19 OF THE UDC AND IT WOULD BE TO RESTRICT THE PARKING DURING CERTAIN HOURS. IT WOULD BE UNLAWFUL FOR ANYONE TO STAND AN OVERSIZED COMMERCIAL VEHICLE ON THE STREETS IN NONRESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 2:00 A.M. AND 6:00 A.M., SO THAT'S KIND OF CONSISTENT WITH WHAT HOUSTON HAD DONE AS FAR AS THE TIME OF DAY WHERE IT'S RESTRICTED. AND THERE'S AN EXCEPTION FOR LOADING OR UNLOADING. ALSO THERE ON THE BOTTOM, YOU CAN SEE THE DEFINITION OF AN OVERSIZED VEHICLE AND IT'S BASICALLY -- WHETHER THE VEHICLE OR ANYTHING ITS TOWING A TRAILER, EXCEEDS ANY OF THOSE DIMENSIONS, 24-FOOT IN LENGTH, 8 FEET IN WIDTH OR 8 FEET IN HEIGHT.
SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO FORWARD THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE RESTRICTING OVERNIGHT PARKING OF OVERSIZED VEHICLES IN NONRESIDENTIAL STREETS TO THE FULL COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
>> HAVRDA: THANK YOU SO MUCH, SIR. >> YES, MA'AM.
>> HAVRDA: REAL QUICK ON -- I'M A LITTLE -- WELL, ACTUALLY FIRST, BEFORE I DO ANYTHING, IS COUNCILMAN PELAEZ HERE? I WANT TO GIVE HIM AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. NO? OKAY.
THANK YOU. I'M NOT CONNECTING SOMETHING.
>> SURE. >> HAVRDA: I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE ENFORCE -- WE HAVE A MISDEMEANOR ON THE BOOKS FOR PARKING IN A RESIDENTIAL, STATE LAW.
>> STATE LAW AND LOCAL MISDEMEANOR. >> HAVRDA: AND LOCAL.
SO THE DIFFERENCE HERE IS THE COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR, RIGHT?
>> NONRESIDENTIAL, YES. >> HAVRDA: SO NOT SPECIFICALLY COMMERCIAL, JUST NONRESIDENTIAL, BECAUSE THAT COULD BE JUST A REGULAR PUBLIC STREET, NOT NECESSARILY A COMMERCIAL, LIKE WHERE THERE'S BUSINESSES ALONG
THE ROUTE, CORRECT? >> NO, MY UNDERSTANDING IS ONE AND THE SAME.
I THINK IT'S A ZONING THING THAT I'M NOT SUPER FAMILIAR WITH, BUT I
THINK NONRESIDENTIAL IS A LARGER GROUP. >> HAVRDA: THAT MAKES SENSE. SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TOTAL CITATIONS ON SLIDE 4, THAT'S FOR THE EXISTING -- OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S FOR THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL -- I MEAN -- YEAH, RESIDENTIAL ENFORCEMENT.
>> CORRECT. THAT'S SPECIFIC JUST TO THAT LAST ONE HERE ON THIS SLIDE, SECTION 19-194 IS PRIMARILY ENFORCED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND CCDO, AND THAT'S WHERE THE PEOPLE ARE PARKING THESE LARGE
TRUCKS OUT ON THE STREETS. >> HAVRDA: WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF SHOWING HOW MANY CITATIONS ON RESIDENTIAL.
DO YOU THINK IT WOULD BE EQUAL TO NONRESIDENTIAL? >> I'M NOT SURE IT WOULD
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BE EQUAL. IT MIGHT EVEN BE GREATER.I DON'T KNOW, AS THE GENTLEMAN THAT SPOKE EARLIER, IT SEEMS MAYBE THE OWNERS OR OPERATORS OF THESE TRUCKS KNOW WHERE THEY ARE AVAILABLE
TO PARK, AND SO THEY'RE DOING SO, I THINK. >> HAVRDA: OKAY.
>> SO I THINK ITS DEFINITELY A GAP IN THE ENFORCEMENT.
>> HAVRDA: OKAY. TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE OR HAS THE CITY DONE ANY OUTREACH TO MORE COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS LIKE TO THE BUSINESSES TO SEE
HOW THAT MIGHT IMPACT THEIR BUSINESSES? >> WE DID NOT AT THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT, NO, MA'AM. >> HAVRDA: OKAY.
OKAY. OKAY. AND THEN FOR -- SO, OF COURSE, THIS IS NOT -- THIS IS A LOCAL, SO THIS WOULD BE ENFORCED BY
CODE, BY PD. >> PRIMARILY BY SAPD, BUT CAN I GO BACK TO YOUR
EARLIER PART? >> HAVRDA: PLEASE. >> THAT WAS THE THOUGHT IN RESTRICTING BETWEEN THOSE HOURS LIKE HOUSTON BETWEEN 2:00 A.M. AND 6:00 A.M. THEY'RE FREE TO STAND THERE OR PARK LEADING UP TO THAT 2:00 A.M. WHEN MOST BUSINESSES MIGHT BE OPEN.
>> HAVRDA: YEAH, OKAY. >> SO IT'S PROBABLY LIKE IF YOU HAVE SOME LATE NIGHT AT A BAR ENTERTAINMENT AREA THAT'S STILL OPEN LATE AT NIGHT,
THAT'S WHERE IT MIGHT BE -- >> HAVRDA: TO BE CLEAR, I SUPPORT THIS. I THINK BEFORE IT GOES TO COUNCIL, THOUGH, WE NEED TO MAYBE HAVE SOME INPUT FROM BUSINESS COMMUNITIES THAT ARE -- BUSINESS CORRIDORS THAT MIGHT BE AFFECTED, JUST TO HAVE THEIR INPUT.
I THINK THAT NUANCE IS IMPORTANT BETWEEN 2:00 AND 6:00 A.M.
THE SCOPE OF THE CCR IS BETWEEN 2:00 A.M. AND 6:00 A.M.
>> IT'S NARROWED, YES, MA'AM. >> HAVRDA: I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT I THINK TO CHECK THAT BOX AND TO BE SURE WE'RE GETTING THEIR INPUT, I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA.
SO WITH THAT, I WILL THANK COUNCILMAN PELAEZ FOR BRINGING IT TO US.
I SEE THE MERITS OF THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE, JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE AS ALWAYS WITH EVERYTHING, WE HAVE AS MUCH COMMUNITY INPUT AS POSSIBLE.
ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, COUNCILMAN WHYTE?
>> WHYTE: BRIEFLY. ON THE PAGE ON THE FINES, FINE NOT PAID, ABOUT HALF. HOW DOES THAT WORK? SO THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN FOUND TO HAVE COMMITTED A VIOLATION, THEY'VE BEEN FINED, THEY JUST HAVEN'T
PAID IT? >> I THINK, COUNCIL, THAT COMES FROM MUNICIPAL COURT, COUNCILMEMBER, BUT I BELIEVE WHAT'S LIKE LIQUORING THERE IS THAT THE TICKET WAS ISSUED, SO THESE ARE TICKETS. THESE ARE MISDEMEANOR CITATIONS, AND SO I'M NOT SURE HOW THEY CHARACTERIZE IF SOMEONE DOESN'T SHOW UP TO THAT COURT DATE. ON THAT, I WOULD ASSUME THE FINE EXISTS THEN, MUCH LIKE -- THAT'S MY EXPERIENCE WITH PARKING TICKETS IS THAT IF YOU DON'T SHOW UP, YOU ARE -- YOU'RE ASSESSED THE FINE. AND SO IT MAY BE JUST A FAILURE OF THEM TO EVEN
ADDRESS IT WHATSOEVER. >> WHYTE: AND SO WHAT -- I'M JUST UNFAMILIAR, WHAT ARE THE COLLECTION EFFORTS? WHAT HAPPENS?
>> VILLAGOMEZ: SO, COUNCILMAN, THESE ARE CASES THAT GO TO MUNICIPAL COURT AND THE JUDGE WILL MAKE A DECISION AT THAT POINT.
WHAT WE CAN DO IS FOLLOW-UP WITH THAT DEFINITION OF NOT PAID, SO WE CAN LET YOU KNOW IF IT IS NOT PAID AND STILL BE UNCOLLECTED.
MUNICIPAL COURT WILL PASS EFFORTS TO COLLECT THOSE UNPAID FINES THAT HAVE
BEEN ALREADY AGREED BY THE MUNICIPAL JUDGE. >> WHYTE: YEAH.
I'D LOVE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT. >> VILLAGOMEZ: SURE.
>> WHYTE: BECAUSE, AGAIN, WHAT'S THE POINT OF HAVING THE ORDINANCE AND FINING PEOPLE IF, YOU KNOW, THERE IS NO ENFORCEMENT.
THANKS. >> AND I'LL ADD TO THAT, IF I MAY, COUNCILMEMBER, THAT ON THESE PARKING VIOLATIONS, THESE UDC, THERE'S NO OPPORTUNITY TO ISSUE A WARRANT FOR AN ARREST OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, SO IT'S STRICTLY
JUST A FINE ONLY ISSUE. >> WHYTE: YEAH, IT'S A CIVIL MATTER.
>> HAVRDA: COULD YOU IMPOUND? COULD YOU IMPOUND AT SOME
POINT, IS THERE AN ESCALATION TO IMPOUND? >> I KNOW THERE'S BEEN BOOTING AND STUFF LIKE THAT WHERE -- YOU KNOW, SO I SUPPOSE THAT'S POSSIBLE. I'LL HAVE TO RESEARCH THAT.
I'LL TAKE THAT BACK ALSO WITH THE FINE NOT PAID AND TALK TO JUDGE OH, JUDGE OBLEDO AND FRED OVER AT MUNICIPAL COURT AND GET AN ANSWER.
>> HAVRDA: I HAVE A QUICK COMMENT ON THAT. I WONDER IF THERE'S AN ESCALATION, IF THEY RECEIVE THE THREE STRIKES, RIGHT, THREE TICKETS THAT ARE UNPAID AND THEN IT'S A BOOT OR -- I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT BEST PRACTICE, BUT I FEEL LIKE THERE COULD BE AN
>> HAVRDA: I DON'T THINK IT WORKS HERE. COUNCILWOMAN ALDARETE
GAVITO? >> GAVITO: YES, THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN WHYTE FOR ASKING THAT QUESTION, WE WANTED TO DEFINITELY SEE WHAT THE STEPS WERE FOR THE ENFORCEMENT OF THOSE FINES NOT PAID. I HAD A COUPLE OF OTHER QUESTIONS. SO WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CCDO, CODE AND
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SAPD INVESTIGATING THE OVERSIZED VEHICLES PARKED ON A RESIDENTIAL STREET?>> I THINK THE PRIMARY DIFFERENCE IS JUST SORT OF THE DIVISION OF THAT RESPONSIBILITY. CODE TYPICALLY DEALS WITH ISSUES THAT ARE UP ON THE LOT, WHETHER THAT'S OVERGROWN STUFF OR, YOU KNOW, THOSE TYPE OF CODE ISSUES. AND SO IF -- UNDER THAT SECTION 35, IF THEY'RE ACTUALLY PARKED UP ON THEIR FRONT YARD, CODE WILL TYPICALLY ADDRESS THAT AND NOT THE SAPD. AND SIMILARLY, WE HANDLE THE STREET, AND CCDO MAINLY AND PRIMARILY IN THE DOWNTOWN AREAS HANDLES THAT, SO IT'S REALLY JUST A DIVISION OF WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOREIGN RESPONSIBLE FOREIGN
GOING IT. >> GAVITO: -- RESPONSIBLE FOR ENFORCING
IT. >> GAVITO: SO, FOR INSTANCE, IF SAPD HANDLES SOMETHING, AN OVERSIZED VEHICLE ON THE STREET , THEN -- AND I'M ASSUMING, THEN, CODE HANDLES IT DIFFERENTLY, SO ALL OF THESE CITATIONS ARE
COMING THROUGH IN DIFFERENT WAYS? >> SO THE CITATIONS ARE VERY SIMILAR, IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT SECTION OF THE UDC THAT'S BEING REFERENCED AS FAR AS VIOLATION. AND THEY ALL GO TO MUNICIPAL COURT, SO THEY ALL FUNNEL TO THE SAME DAISHZ.
>> GAVITO: THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET TO. THEY ALL FUNNEL TO
MUNICIPAL COURT? >> YES, MA'AM. >> GAVITO: SO THERE'S AN AREA IN DISTRICT 7 THAT'S OWNED BY TXDOT, AND OVERSIZED VEHICLES PARK ALONGSIDE THAT FRONTAGE ROAD, SO THEN WHO'S IN CHARGE OF GETTING THAT?
IS THAT SAPD ENFORCING THAT AREA? >> YES, BUT IF IT'S
TXDOT, I'M ASSUMING IT'S NOT RESIDENTIAL. >> GAVITO: UH-HUH.
>> SO CURRENTLY, THERE IS NO ENFORCEMENT. THERE'S NO PROHIBITION
AGAINST THAT CURRENTLY UNDER THE LAW. >> GAVITO: OKAY.
>> THIS MIGHT WOULD CHANGE THAT, I THINK. >> GAVITO: OKAY.
SO WHERE ARE THESE OVERSIZED VEHICLES SUPPOSED TO PARK?
>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THE OWNERS AND OPERATORS WILL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT. I MEAN, IT MAY BE A COST OF OPERATING THAT BUSINESS THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME SORT OF STORAGE, YOU KNOW, AND MAYBE YOU CAN CONTRACT WITH ONE OF THESE LARGE INDUSTRIAL, YOU KNOW, TRUCKING LOTS THAT HAVE SPACE OR SOMETHING.
I DON'T -- >> GAVITO: YEAH, I MEAN, BECAUSE WE DEFINITELY -- I HEARD ABOUT IT WHILE BLOCK WALKING, PEOPLE ARE UB SET WITH THESE OVERSIZED VEHICLES IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND I UNDERSTAND WHY, I MEAN,
IT LIMITS THEIR SIGHT. >> SURE, THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT THAT PICTURE UP,
YOU CAN SEE. >> GAVITO: IT LIMITS THEIR SIGHT, WE DEFINITELY DON'T WANT THEM IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT WE
ALSO NEED TO FIGURE OUT OPTIONS FOR THEM TO GO. >> AND SO I'LL REM REMIND YOU ALSO, THIS IS THAT TWO A.M. TO 6:00 A.M. WINDOW, SO IT'S
PRETTY NARROW. >> GAVITO: THANK YOU. >> HAVRDA: THANK YOU COUNCILWOMAN ALDARETE GAVITO. SO JUST FY I FOR THE COUNCILMEMBERS, THE MACHINE IS WORKING, IF YOU'LL PLEASE USE THE MACHINE GOING FORWARD, AND I DO SEE YOU COUNCILWOMAN KAUR.
JUST REAL QUICK, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SCOPE, I SEE THE GOOD OF IT, BUT I'M ACTUALLY A LITTLE CONFUSED BECAUSE WE HEARD MR. WOOD SPEAK EARLIER ABOUT THE IMPACT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IS TH THIS REALLY GOING TO REDUCE THE IMPACT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S ONLY
BETWEEN 2:00 A.M. AND 6:00 A.M. >> I THINK THESE OWNER/OPERATORS TEND TO STORE THEIR VEHICLE IN THOSE AREAS, SO, YES, I THINK IT HAS THAT EFFECT, BECAUSE WE CAN START AT 2:00 A.M. START ENFORCING THAT ORDINANCE IF THE COUNCIL WISHES TO EXPAND THAT FURTHER, YOU
KNOW -- >> VILLAGOMEZ: AND BOBBY, CAN YOU ALSO CLARIFY THAT WE ALREADY HAVE RULES AND REGULATIONS FOR THOSE IN RESIDENTIAL AR AREAS AND WHAT WE'RE ADDRESSING TODAY IS NONRESIDENTIAL. SO WE ALREADY HAVE THE
TOOLS TO ENFORCE RESIDENTIAL. >> THAT'S CORRECT.
>> HAVRDA: I MEAN, THAT'S A GOOD POINT, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMMERCIAL
BETWEEN 2:00 AND 6:00 A.M. >> CORRECT.
>> HAVRDA: I WONDER IF I COULD MAYBE ASK MR. WOOD COME BACK UP, MAYBE A QUESTION FOR HIM. HOW DO YOU SEE THIS IMPACTING WHAT YOU BROUGHT UP EARLIER BETWEEN 2:00 AND 4:00 IN NONRESIDENTIALS -- ONION
RESIDENTIAL STREETS? >> WELL, THE SUCCESS WE'VE HAD, FOR EXAMPLE, ON BECKWITH WHICH IS A MIXED STREET, WE'VE SEEN THAT THE BUSINESSES THAT HAVE PUT UP THE SIGNS FOR NO OVERNIGHT TEND TO HAVE ALMOST ZERO PARKING EVEN DURING THE DAY. BECAUSE TO THE COMMENT EARLIER, THEY'RE THERE TO STORE THE VEHICLE. THEY'RE THERE TO -- THEY'RE NOT DROPPING OFF ANYTHING, THEY'RE THERE TO STORE THEIR VEHICLE AND THEY DON'T -- YOU KNOW, TO -- WHAT WAS MENTIONED BEFORE, IF YOU JUST GOOGLE IT, THERE ARE MULTIPLE SERVICES WHERE, AGAIN, THEY COULD AS PART OF THE COST OF BUSINESS PARK THEIR VEHICLE, BUT THEY CAN DO IT FOR FREE THERE.
THESE PEOPLE DON'T LIVE THERE. I'VE SEEN THEM GET OUT OF THEIR VEHICLE, THEY HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER COME AND PICK THEM UP, TAKE THEM SOMEWHERE ELSE, RIGHT, OR THEY HAVE AN UBER PICK THEM UP.
BUT THEY'RE THERE TO STORE THE VEHICLE. SO EVEN IF THEY DID IT FROM 2:00 A.M. TO 6:00 A.M., I MEAN, THOSE OVERNIGHTS RIGHT NOW ARE FROM 6:00 P.M. TO 6:00 A.M. -- I'M SORRY, 10:00 P.M. TO 6:00 A.M.
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ARE VERY EFFECTIVE. IF THEY CAN'T STORE IT OVERNIGHT, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PARK THERE ALTOGETHER FOR THE MOST PART.I WOULD THINK IT WOULD SOLVE 90% OF YOUR PROBLEMS.
>> HAVRDA: WHAT'S THE PROBLEM THAT YOU'RE SOLVING IF YOU CAN'T PARK
BETWEEN TWO AND SIX IN COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR? >> WELL, IF THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO RESOLVE IS TO ELIMINATE THE 18-WHEELERS FROM PARKING IN THESE STREETS ALTOGETHER, BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING IT THERE NOT FOR BUSINESS PURPOSES. THEY'RE DOING IT THERE SIMPLY TO SAVE MONEY FOR THEIR BUSINESS SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO STORE IT, SO THEY CAN GO THERE, STAY AT HOME OR A HOTEL OR SOMEWHERE ELSE.
AND NONE OF THEM HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE BUSINESSES MOST OF THE TIMES THAT THEY PARK IN FRONT OF. AND SO BY JUST ELIMINATING THAT, IT ELIMINATES THE PURPOSE FOR WHICH THEY GOT A CHANCE TO PARK THERE, WHICH WAS STORING OVERNIGHT.
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE IS, ONE, YOU KNOW, IN EVERY STREET, IT HAS A DIFFERENT STORY. BUT FOR US, WE HAVE MULTIPLE COMMUNITIES RIGHT THERE. WE HAVE A SCHOOL RIGHT THERE, AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL -- EXCUSE ME, A MIDDLE SCHOOL RIGHT THERE, AND MULTIPLE AREAS OF RESIDENTIAL RIGHT AROUND IT. NOT ONLY IS IT AN EYE SORE TO THE COMMUNITY, RIGHT, DRIVE DOWN BECKWITH, IT BLOCKS HALF OF THE STREET. I'VE SEEN THE FIRE RIGS AND INDIVIDUAL CARS HAVE TO SWERVE TO THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET TO GET THROUGH THERE AND YOU HAVE ONCOMING TRAFFIC COMING THE OTHER WAY. BEFORE SOME OF THE BUSINESSES STARTED PUTTING UP NO OVERNIGHT AND NOT ALL OF THEM HAVE
DONE THAT, PEOPLE WOULD ALMOST COLLIDE. >> HAVRDA: DURING THE
DAY. >> DURING THE DAY, CORRECT.
AS WE'VE SEEN WHEN THEY PUT THE NO OVERNIGHT, 18-WHEELERS TEND TO NOT PARK THERE DURING THE DAY EITHER. AND JUST ONE LAST COMMENT ABOUT BUSINESS, THE BUSINESS OWNERS THERE WERE EXTREMELY IN FAVOR, I CAN GIVE YOU A LIST THAT THE COUNCILMAN'S OFFICE DID WORK WITH.
THE BUSINESS OFFICES WERE VERY MUCH IN FAVOR. >> HAVRDA: THERE WAS SOME
OUTREACH TO. >> OH, ABSOLUTELY, THE COUNCILMAN'S OFFICE WORKED WITH HOTELS, THERE WAS A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, THEY WORKED WITH EACH ONE OF THEM. LAURA CAN GIVE YOU THE DETAILS FOR THAT.
>> HAVRDA: OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCILWOMAN DR. KAUR?
>> KAUR: THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN HAVRDA. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. HAVE WE TALKED TO ANY OF THE TRUCKER ASSOCIATIONS OR FOLKS THAT REPRESENT TRUCKERS TO GET THEIR PERSPECTIVE?
>> WE DIDN'T AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, I DID NOT.
>> KAUR: IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO BEFORE THIS COMES TO
COUNCIL? >> VILLAGOMEZ: YES, COUNCILWOMAN.
WE WILL. >> KAUR: OKAY. BECAUSE MY -- AND ALSO DID WE DO ANY ANALYSIS OF LIKE IN HOUSTON OR FORT WORTH, WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THEY INITIATED THE LONGER HOURS OR THE CHANGES TO THEIR POLICY.
>> NO, COUNCILMEMBER, WE DIDN'T. >> KAUR: IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT THE RESULTS OF THEIR DATA WAS SINCE THEY'VE ALREADY TRIED IT, MAYBE WE CAN JUST LOOK AT IF THEIR TICKETS HAD GONE UP, IF THEY WERE ACTUALLY PAID. THE OTHER THING THAT CAME TO MY MIND WHEN COUNCILMAN WHYTE ASKED THAT QUESTION, A LOT OF THEM ARE RENTING TRUCKS, NOT ONLY ALL OF THEM OWN THEIR OWN TRUCKS. THEY MAY NOT HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO PAY FOR THE FEES. SO IF WE'RE JUST TICKETING A TRUCK, IT MAY NOT CHANGE WHAT THE IMPACT THAT WE'RE SEEING.
SO IT WOULD JUST BE INTERESTING TO SEE, I GUESS, WHAT SOME OF THE OTHER DATA POINTS, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THIS WERE TO GO INTO EFFECT, SO WE'RE NOT JUST PASSING AN ORDINANCE THAT SOUNDS GREAT FOR THE COMMUNITY BUT DOESN'T CREATE REAL IMPACT. AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER LAST THING I WOULD ASK US TO THINK ABOUT BEFORE IT COMES TO COUNCIL IS HOW WOULD WE INFORM THESE TRUCKERS OF THE NEW ORDINANCE.
IS THERE -- I MEAN, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW BIG THE TRUCKER ASSOCIATION IS AND WHO THEY REPRESENT, BUT I ALSO KNOW A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE ARE PASSING THROUGH TOWN, SO THEY COME IN, THEY STAY AT A HOTEL FOR A NIGHT AND THEY LEAVE, SO HOW WOULD THEY KNOW WHAT THE NEW ORDINANCE IS, TOO, I THINK IS ALSO A QUESTION, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S DIFFERENT IN AUSTIN THAN IT IS HERE, WHAT IS THE COMMUNICATION THAT WE'RE
GOING TO -- >> VILLAGOMEZ: SURE. WE'LL DEFINITELY WORK ON A COMMUNICATION PLAN, AND ALSO SIGNAGE IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT.
IF THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVES THIS ORDINANCE, THEN WE WILL PUT UP SIGN SIGNAGE SO THEY WILL KNOW IT'S A RESTRICTED ZONE AS WELL, WHICH IS AN
EFFECTIVE TOOL. >> KAUR: AND WOULD THAT BE BASICALLY PLACED ON THE STREETS THAT ARE FREQUENTLY USED RIGHT NOW, OR WOULD WE KIND OF BE MAKING BLANKETED STATEMENTS ON WHERE WE WOULD PUT THOSE.
>> VILLAGOMEZ: WE WILL USE THE DATA OF THOSE AREAS WHERE WE HAVE SEEN VIOLATIONS. AND ALSO THEY DON'T PARK AT EVERY, YOU KNOW, SINGLE PLACE, BUT THOSE THAT -- WHERE WE GET THE MOST INFRACTIONS, IF YOU WILL, OR WHERE WE HAVE THE MOST DATA, THOSE WILL BE PRIORITIZED.
>> KAUR: I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S SUBSTANTIAL ENOUGH TO CALCULATE THE COST OF THAT SIGNAGE, BUT IF IT WERE -- IF WE COULD SOMEHOW FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH THE SIGNAGE AND HOW MUCH POLICE TIME WOULD BE INCURRED FOR THESE CITATIONS IN RETURN FOR HOW MUCH WE WOULD BE GETTING.
OBVIOUSLY I KNOW THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE REVENUE, IT'S ABOUT MAKING THE NEIGHBORS FEEL MORE SAFE AROUND COMFORTABLE, BUT IT WOULD STILL BE
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INTERESTING TO SEE A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS. .>> VILLAGOMEZ: WE'LL PROVIDE THAT. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU COUNCILWOMAN DR. KAUR, DR. MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ?
>> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: I'LL CONCUR WITH A LOT OF WHAT I HEARD FROM COUNCILWOMAN KAUR. I LIVE ON EISENHAUER AND WALZEM WHICH IS A VERY HEAVY DISTRICT, MY DISTRICT IS A WAREHOUSE DISTRICT, ESSENTIALLY.
WHAT I THINK HAPPENS AS WELL IS THAT 18-WHEELERS ARE TEARING UP OUR ROADS AND THEY'RE PARKING ON THEM FOR EXTENDED PERIODS OF TIME, AND THAT'S CAUSING FURTHER DAMAGE. LET THERE BE RAIN AND IT'S EVEN WORSE.
AND, YOU KNOW, I HAVE -- LINDA MARPLE, FOR EXAMPLE, SHE'S GOING TO BE SO THRILLED IF COUNCIL PASSES THIS, BECAUSE THEY, THEMSELVES ARE MONITORING THEIR COMMUNITY AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE COMPLAINING ALMOST EVERY SINGLE DAY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THESE 18-WHEELERS THAT ARE PACKED IN AND AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD, EVEN WHEN THEY SHOULDN'T BE, PAD IN NEIGHBORHOODS, THEY'RE STILL DOING IT AND OUR ROADS JUST ARE NOT BUILT FOR THAT. AND SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO, EVERYBODY BEYOND THIS, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE IMPACTFUL.
I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS, BUT I WONDER, SOMETIMES WITH FINES AND FEES, WHAT HAPPENS IS THOSE WHO CAN AFFORD IT, THEN -- YOU KNOW, THE CRIME OR WHATEVER IT IS, IS LEGAL FOR THEM. AND IT'S FINE BECAUSE THEY CAN PAY IT. WHAT IS THE FEE? , DO YOU KNOW?
>> I DON'T KNOW, COUNCILMEMBER. I CAN FIND OUT.
I'M THINKING IT'S $200, BUT... >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: I WOULD JUST BE WORRIED -- AND I'M NOT SAYING, LET'S INCREASE THE FEE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT IF IT -- PARK HERE BECAUSE IT'S CONVENIENT AND I WON'T PAY FOR $250 TO PARK ELSEWHERE. SO I THINK IT'S JUST -- I THINK SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED IN ADDITION TO ALL THE OTHER THINGS MY COLLEAGUES HAVE
LAID OUT. THANK YOU. >> HAVRDA: OKAY.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? OKAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION. >> YOU'RE WELCOME.
>> HAVRDA: SO I'LL ENTERTAIN -- DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT.
. >> GAVITO: WHEN THIS COMES BACK TO COUNCIL, CAN WE ALSO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SOME OPTIONS FOR, LIKE, WHERE THEY CAN PARK TO WHERE -- KIND OF THE QUESTION THAT -- OKAY.
THANKS. >> HAVRDA: THANK YOU. I'LL ENTERTAIN A
>> HAVRDA: YOU MOVED TO MOVE TO FULL COUNCIL? >> YES.
>> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: FOR B SESSION OR A SESSION. >> HAVRDA: SORRY.
OKAY. DO WE HAVE TO DETERMINE A OR B OR JUST TO FULL COUNCIL? JUST COUNCIL. OKAY.
OKAY. THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO MOVE THIS ITEM TO FULL COUNCIL WITH A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY
AYE. (AYES.) >> HAVRDA: ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. MOTION PASSES. AND, AGAIN, THANKS TO COUNCILMAN PELAEZ FOR BRINGING THIS TO US. SO THERE WE HAD ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL WHO IS HERE THAT MAYBE WAS PART OF THE GLITCH, BUT THEY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. I'M SORRY, MARIA, I'M GOING TO ASK SHE THEM TO COME UP. STEVEN LUCKY, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES, SIR.
. >> THE OFFICE OF -- YES. (INAUDIBLE).
GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.
MY NAME IS STEVEN LUCKY. I OPERATE A SMALL GRASSROOTS NONPROFIT CALLED [INDISCERNIBLE] ON THE EAST SIDE OF SAN ANTONIO.
I'M HERE TO SPEAK TODAY IN SUPPORT OF COUNCILMAN JAY LYNN MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ THE DATA-DRIVEN EVIDENCE-BASED CRIME PREVENTION LIKE PUBLIC HEALTH EDUCATION, PROACTIVELY AND RESPONSIBILITILY REDUCE CRIME AND ITS IMPACT IN SAN ANTONIO. THE OFFICE WOULD HIRE CRIMINOLOGIST, DATA PROFESSIONALS WHO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND RESIDENTS AND ORGANIZATIONS WHO ARE ALREADY DOING THE WORK.
I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT MY ORGANIZATION THAT HAS TANGIBLE DATA ON WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO. SO IN 2015, THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE GAVE SAN ANTONIO HOUSING AUTHORITY ABOUT $600,000 TO REDUCE CRIME ON THE EAST SIDE CORRIDORS OF WALTERS, GE VERS AND NORTH NEW BRAUNFELS.
IN 2015, A YOUNG MAN WAS SHOT AND KILLED AT THE GAS STATION ON NOLAN AND NEW BRAUNFELS. THERE WERE DIFFERENT STRATEGIES.
COUNCILWOMAN ALAN WARRICK IN THE PAST GOT SHOT SPOTTER, THEY DID DRUG RAIDS, THEY HIRED MORE OFFICERS, RIGHT, SO I DON'T THINK WE CAN POLICE AWAY EVERY SINGLE PROBLEM. THERE ARE BAD GUYS WHO NEED TO BE ARRESTED, BUT THEN THERE ARE FOLKS WHO ARE IN PO HAVERTY WHO NEED HELP IN DIFFERENT WAYS AND AN OFFICE LIKE THIS COULD SUPPORT IT.
I KNOW WE'VE DATA-DRIVEN HERE. IN 2015 THERE WERE 120 CALLS FOR SERVICE AT NOLAN AND NEW BRAUNFELS, LAST YEAR THERE WERE 11
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CALLS FOR SERVICE. THAT'S OVER A 90% REDUCTION IN CALLS FOR SERVICE, AND I'M SURE CHIEF MCMANUS WOULD LOVE IF 90% LESS CALLS WERE HAPPENING AND OUR STREETS WERE SAFE, RIGHT? AND THAT'S AT NOLAN AND NEW BRAUNFELS. WE CAN GO FURTHER, WE CAN GO A QUARTER MILE RADIUS, AND WE TOOK ALL THIS DATA FROM THE WEBSITE FROM THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO SAPD. 2009 CALLS FOR SERVICE.IN 2022, 2094, THAT'S ALMOST A 20% REDUCTION. WE'RE PROTECTING OUR COMMUNITY IN THAT APPROACH. THIS OFFICE WOULD BE ABLE TO WORK CLABRAIVE THELY WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS LIKE SAPD, METRO HEALTH, HOUSING AND OTHERS. THE STRATEGY THAT WE ARE USING AND COULD BE SUPPORTED IN ADDITION TO OTHER STRATEGIES IS CALLED CRIME PREVENTION THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN, AND THAT'S JUST ONE APPROACH BUT IT IS AN EVIDENT-BASED APPROACH AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO SOME RESEARCH ON DR. GOOGLE TO FIGURE OUT MORE ABOUT THE APPROACH BEING USED ACROSS NOT ONLY THE UNITED STATES BUT ACROSS THE WORLD. OVERALL THE ADDED FOCUS ON REDUCING RECIDIVISM RATES IN OUR CITY IN AREAS OF GREAT NEED THE MOST RECENT... WE WELCOME COLLABORATION WITH OUR COUNTY'S WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS WE CREATED 16 JOBS. OKAY.
AND ABOUT HALF OF OUR STAFF ARE OFFENDERS. AND SO WE'RE GIVING SECOND CHANCES TO PEOPLE WHO NEED OPPORTUNITIES TO WORK TO KEEP THEM OUT OF
TROUBLE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> HAVRDA: THANK YOU, MR. LUCKY. OKAY. WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 5.
THANK YOU, MARIA. >> VILLAGOMEZ: GOOD MORNING, AGAIN.
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. SO THIS PRESENTATION IS TO ADDRESS A CITY COUNCIL REQUEST SUBMITTED BY COUNCILMEMBER MCKEE.
>> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: BACK IN JANUARY 2022 ON THE ESTABLISHMENT FIKDZ OF A CRIME AND RECIDIVISM PREVENTION. THE CCR PROPOSED THIS OFFICE TO BE A SUSTAIN THE SAFETY AND ABILITY OF OUR COMMUNITY.
WE TOOK THIS CCR TO THE GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE BACK IN DECEMBER, AND THE GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE FORWARDED THE CCR TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.
NOW, A LOT OF THE INFORMATION THAT I WILL PRESENT TO THE COMMITTEE THIS MORNING IS VERY CONSISTENT TO THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED TO THE GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE BACK IN DECEMBER WITH UPDATED INFORMATION -- THE GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION WAS RECOMMENDING NOT TO ESTABLISH THE OFFICE OF CRIME AND RECIDIVISM. WE BELIEVE THAT MANY OF THE INITIATIVES THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR TODAY ADDRESS THE REQUEST FROM THIS CCR AND ALIGN WITH THE GOALS OF THE CCR.
SO LET ME START WITH THOSE INITIATIVES. AND WE DIVIDED THEM INTO THREE DIFFERENT BUCKETS. FIRST, THE WORK THAT OUR METRO HEALTH DEPARTMENT IS DOING. METRO HEALTH HAS THE SA FORWARD PLAN, WHICH IS THEIR STRATEGIC PLAN THAT GUIDES THE WORK OF METRO HEALTH.
AND ONE OF THE PILLARS WITHIN THE STRATEGIC PLANS IS VIOLENCE PREVENTION. SO RIGHT NOW, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING A VIOLENCE PREVENTION STRATEGIC PLAN AND I'LL GO INTO MORE DETAIL IN THE FOLLOWING SLIDES. THE OTHER INITIATIVE THAT WE HAVE STARTED IN THE BEGINNING OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR 2023 IS A CRIME PREVENTION PLAN, IT'S A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN UTSA AND THE SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT AIMED DIRECTLY TO REDUCE VIOLENT CRIME IN OUR COMMUNITY.
ADDITIONALLY, THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING IN THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, WE ARE WORKING WITH UTSA ON A NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY PROGRAM ASSESSMENT AND EVALUATION PROJECT. ALSO IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2023 BUDGET, A POSITION WAS APPROVED TO BE MOVED FROM THE METRO HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO CREATE A PUBLIC SAFETY OUTCOMES COORDINATOR POSITION, AND FINALLY, ON THE BUDGET THAT WAS APPROVED LAST THURSDAY, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED MOVING A METRO HEALTH VACANT POSITION TO CREATE A GRANT'S COORDINATOR FOR CRIME PREVENTION AND RECIDIVISM. SO, AGAIN, THESE ARE STRATEGIES THAT WE BELIEVE ARE ADDRESSING THE REQUEST FROM THE CCR. SO LET ME BEGIN WITH THE WORK OF METRO HEALTH.
AS I MENTIONED, METRO HEALTH, ONE OF THEIR PRIMARY AREAS IN THEIR SA FORWARD PLAN IS THE VIOLENCE PREVENTION STRATEGIC PLAN.
WE PROVIDED A BRIEFING TO THIS PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE BACK IN FEBRUARY OF 2023 AS WE STARTED THIS PROCESS. AND PRIMARILY, THIS IS A SPK HEALTH APPROACH TO VIOLENCE PREVENTION. THE GOAL OF THIS PLAN IS
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TO HAVE A FIVE-YEAR ROADMAP THAT WOULD ADDRESS PRIORITIES RELATED TO VIOLENCE AND THE CAUSES OF VIOLENCE. AND SPECIFICALLY IT WILL IDENTIFY AND DEFINE STRATEGIES TO PREVENT AND INTERVENE IN VIOLENCE ALONG A CONTINUUM AND THROUGHOUT THE LIFESPAN, MEANING THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE ADDRESSING UPSTREAM AND DOWNSTREAM APPROACHES TO VIOLENCE PREVENTION.IT ALSO INCORPORATES STRATEGIES THAT WE HAD DEFINED BACK IN 2019.
WE CREATED A PLAN TO ADDRESS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
THIS PLAN WILL UPDATE THAT PLAN AND WOULD ALSO INCORPORATE OTHER COMMUNITY VIOLENCE ISSUES SUCH AS SHOOTINGS, CHILD ABUSE AND NEGLECT, SEXUAL ABUSE AND ACTS OF MASS VIOLENCE. THIS PARTICULAR WORK IS BEING LED BY METRO HEALTH. ERIKA HAYLOR STEVENSON WHO IS HERE TODAY, SHE IS OUR VIOLENT PREVENTION ADMINISTRATOR IN METRO HEALTH, AND SHE IS WORKING WITH UTSA TO GET THEIR PROFESSIONAL INPUT IN THIS APPROACH, ALSO WITH THE SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE ST. JOHN BAPTIST CHURCH. AND THIS PARTICULAR GROUP THAT I JUST MENTIONED WAS SELECTED BY THE NATIONAL LEADERSHIP ACADEMY FOR PUBLIC HEALTH AS A COHORT OF 17 DIFFERENT TEAMS ACROSS THE NATION TO ADDRESS IMPORTANT ISSUES FOR THEIR COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF PUBLIC HEALTH AND THE PROJECT THAT METRO HEALTH WAS SELECTED WAS THIS VIOLENCE PREVENTION STRATEGY PLAN. YOU SEE ON THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE, THE TIMELINE OF THIS WORK. WE STARTED BACK EARLY THIS YEAR WITH COMMUNITY AND STAKEHOLDER INPUT. PRIORITY AREAS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED, AS WELL AS OBJECTIVE STRATEGIES AND INDICATORS. THE WORK IS BEING FINALIZED, AND WE ARE READY TO PRESENTRE THIS TO THIS COMMITTEE IN NOVEMBER, AND THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE TIMELINE THAT WE PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE BACK IN FEBRUARY OF 2023.
NOW, THE SECOND INITIATIVE THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH IS OUR VIOLENT CRIME REDUCTION PLAN. AND THIS IS A PARTNERSHIP, AGAIN, WITH UTSA AND THEIR CRIMINOLOGIST, DR. SMITH, IS THE LEAD FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. AND THE PLAN AIMS TO REDUCE VIOLENT CRIME IN AREAS OF THE CITY WHERE WE SEE MOST VIOLENT CRIME HAPPENING. AND THAT HAPPENS ACROSS OUR ENTIRE CITY.
AND ALSO TO ADDRESS THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT -- OFFENDERS. THE FOCUS OF THIS PARTICULAR PLAN IS VIOLENT STREET CRIME, AND THAT INCLUDES MURDER, ROBBERY, AGGRAVATED ASSAULT AND DEADLY CONDUCT. WE STARTED THIS PROJECT BACK IN 2023 AND IT HAS THREE COMPONENTS. THE NEAR-TERM STRATEGY ARE HOT SPOT POLICING WITH THE GOAL OF INCREASING VISIBILITY IN CERTAIN AREAS OF THE CITY. NOW, THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IS VERY DATA-DRIVEN. UTSA HAS ANALYZED DATA PROVIDED BY THE SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THOSE HOT SPOTS WHERE WE SEE MOST CONCENTRATION OF THE VIOLENT STREET CRIME THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER. NOW, THE SECOND PHASE OR THE MIDSTREAM STRATEGY FOCUSES ON VIOLENT PLACES IN THE CITY USING A PROBLEM-ORIENTED POLICE BASED APPROACH. ALSO THIS IS AN EVIDENCE-BASED STRATEGY. AND FINALLY THE LONGER TERM OF STRATEGY IS FOCUSED DE DETERRENCE, AND THIS WILL HELP BREAK THE CYCLE OF VIOLENCE AMONG THE SMALL NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE COMMIT K MOST OF THE VIOLENT CRIME HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. SO LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT THE RESULTS SO FAR OF THIS VIOLENT CRIME REDUCTION PLAN.
SO THE HOT SPOT POLICING BEGAN IN JANUARY 2023. EVERY 60 DAYS, UTSA, BASED ON THE DATA THAT IS PROVIDED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, SELECTS ROUGHLY 28 TO 30 DIFFERENT HOT SPOTS, AREAS ACROSS THE CITY WHERE WE ARE GOING TO INCREASE POLICE VISIBILITY, AND WE CALL THIS A TREATMENT AREAS. SO WE HAVE DONE THIS AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO DO IT TODAY. BUT WE MADE A COUPLE OF PRESENTATIONS TO THE FULL COUNCIL ON THE RESULTS OF THE FIRST 60 DAYS AND THEN WE CAME BACK WITH THE -- A SUBSEQUENT REPORT FOR THE NEXT 60 DAYS.
SO A MIDYEAR REPORT HAS BEEN COMPLETED BY UTSA AND THIS IS FROM JANUARY TO JUNE OF 2023. AND WE WILL BE PRESENTING THAT TO THIS PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE NEXT MONTH IN OCTOBER. BOTTOM LINE, THE PLAN IS WORK K. WE HAVE SEEN A REDUCTION IN VIOLENT CRIME ON THOSE
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AREAS THAT ARE TREATED, CLOSE TO ANYWHERE BETWEEN 40 TO 45%.NOW, THE MIDTERM STRATEGY IS THE PROBLEM-ORIENTED PLACE-BASED POLICING.
WE STARTED THIS LAST WEEK. WE HAD OUR FIRST MEETING WITH UTSA, AND THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT STRATEGY, AND I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT, THE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE PARTICIPATING ARE VERY EXCITED, BECAUSE WE'RE CONNECTING THE DOTS. WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT AREAS WHERE WE HAVE HIGH CONCENTRATION OF VIOLENT CRIME AND LOOKING AT INITIATIVES AND PROGRAMS THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT IN THOSE AREAS OF OUR CITY TO BE ABLE TO REDUCE THAT VIOLENT CRIME.
WE HAVE CREATED A CROSS-CITY DEPARTMENT BOARD THAT IS COMPRISED BY METRO HEALTH, CODE ENFORCEMENT, HUMAN SERVICES, NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOUSING SERVICES, SOLID WASTE, PARKS AND RECREATION, PLANNING, OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. NOW, THIS PARTICULAR BOARD IS MADE UP OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS REPRESENTING THOSE DEPARTMENTS THAT WILL BE A WORK GROUP THAT IS ACTUALLY INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE ASSIGNED BY THESE DEPARTMENTS TO ACTUALLY DEVELOP INITIATIVES THAT CAN ADDRESS THOSE AREAS OF THE CITY WHERE WE ARE SEEING MOST VIOLENT CRIME.
THESE STRATEGIES WILL BE TAILORED SPECIFICALLY TO THOSE AREAS TO ADDRESS CRIMES -- PLACES WHERE WE ARE SEEING CRIME OCCURRING. AGAIN, WE DID OUR FIRST MEETING LAST WEEK, AND WE ARE ANTICIPATING IMPLEMENTATION POTENTIALLY BY THE END OF 2023 OR EARLY 2024. NOW, YOU MAY RECALL THAT IN THE SPRING, WE MADE A PRESENTATION TO THE COUNCIL TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE OF OUR RECOVERY AND RESILIENCY EFFORTS AND ALSO OUR ARPA EFFORTS, AND WE IDENTIFIED AN AMOUNT OF $3.5 MILLION THAT WAS AVAILABLE FOR POTENTIAL REALLOCATION FROM OUR RECOVERY AND RESILIENCY PLAN OF THREE AND A HALF MILLION. AND WE RECOMMENDED TO THE COUNCIL, AND THE COUNCIL APPROVED, THAT THIS BE SET ASIDE FOR COMMUNITY SAFETY PROGRAMS. THIS WILL BE POTENTIALLY THIS IDEA THAT THIS WORK GROUP WILL BRING TO THE BOARD AND WE'LL BRING THOSE TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE AND TO THE FULL COUNCIL FOR IMPLEMENTATION, SO IT COULD BE THINGS LIKE ACTIVATING A POTENTIAL SPACE FOR -- AS GREENSPACE, OR IT COULD BE, FOR EXAMPLE, ADDING MORE LIGHTING TO SPECIFIC AREA OF THE CITY OR MAYBE MORE INTERVENTION IN TERMS OF CLEANUP AND CODE ENFORCEMENT. SO THE STRATEGIES ARE GOING TO BE VERY DIFFERENT, OR IT COULD BE POTENTIALLY SOME TYPE OF ECONOMIC REVITALIZATION EFFORTS IN A SPECIFIC AREA OF THE CITY. ALL OF THOSE IDEAS WILL BE VETTED, AGAIN, WITH THE GOAL OF ELIMINATING OR REDUCING THAT VIOLENT CRIME IN THOSE AREAS OF OUR CITY. NOW, MOVING ON TO THE THIRD BUCKET OF INITIATIVES THAT WE HAVE STARTED WORKING ON, THE NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY PROGRAM ASSESSMENT AND EVALUATION PROJECT, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE IS LOOK AT ALL OF THE PROGRAMS AND SERVICES OFFERED BY OUR CITY DEPARTMENTS AND IDENTIFY THOSE THAT ARE MORE LIKELY TO IMPACT PUBLIC SAFETY. NOW, UTSA IS DOING THIS WORK USING THEIR EXPERIENCED RESEARCHERS, AS WELL AS AS SCIENTIFIC DATA THAT CAN IDENTIFY -- WE PROVIDED THEM WITH 138 CITY PROGRAMS THAT CAN IDENTIFY THOSE THAT ARE MORE LIKELY TO IMPACT NOW, WHEN WE MENTION PUBLIC SAFETY, WE'RE SPECIFICALLY TALKING IN THE CONTEXT OF THIS PROJECT, INCLUDING CRIME, JUVENILE DELINQUENCY, VICTIMIZATION, FEAR OF CRIME AND PERCEPTIONS OF SAFETY IN THOSE PARTICULAR PROGRAMS. NOW, TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF THESE 138 PROGRAMS AND HOW WE CLASSIFY THEM, WE HAVE ACCESS TO EDUCATION, ARTS AND RECREATION. SO, FOR INSTANCE, THOSE ARE SERVICES PROVIDED BY OUR ARTS DEPARTMENT, PARKS AND RECREATION, PRE-K FOUR SA AND HUMAN SERVICES AS WELL AS THE LIBRARY. CODE ENFORCEMENT AND PRESERVATION, HOMELESS PREVENTION, INFRASTRUCTURE, PUBLIC HEALTH, WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, YOUTH PROGRAMMING AND PUBLIC SAFETY THAT INCLUDES POLICE, FIRE AND EMERGENCY SERVICES PROGRAMS. SO THOSE ARE THE CATEGORIES OF THOSE 138 CITY PROGRAMS THAT UTSA HELPED US IDENTIFY AND SUMMARIZE THE SCIENTIFIC LITERATURE THAT IS AVAILABLE THAT SHOWS THAT THESE PROGRAMS HAVE A
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POTENTIAL IMPACT ON PUBLIC SAFETY. UTSA IS -- HAS CONCLUDED THEIR RESEARCH. THEY IDENTIFIED ROUGHLY ABOUT 51 DIFFERENT PROGRAMS OR INITIATIVES. WE ASKED THEM TO GIVE US A PRIORITY OF 10 THAT WE CAN BEGIN THE ACTUAL EVALUATION PROCESS SO WE CAN COME BACK AND TELL YOU BASED ON THIS EVIDENCE-BASED DATA AND BASED ON THIS EVALUATION TOOLS HOW THESE PROGRAMS ARE POSITIVELY IMPACTING PUBLIC SAFETY.NOW, THE NEXT AREA THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON IS THE CREATION OF A PUBLIC SAFETY OUTCOMES COORDINATOR. AGAIN, THIS IS A POSITION THAT WAS APPROVED IN THE '23 BUDGET. THIS POSITION IS BEING ADVERTISED. THE POSITION IS RESPONSIBLE FOR EVALUATION OF HOW CITY PROGRAMS POSITIVELY IMPACT CRIME, SO THIS INDIVIDUAL WILL BE IMPLEMENTING THE WORK THAT UTSA HAS CONCLUDED.
WILL ANALYZE DELINQUENCY AND VARIOUS SOCIAL CONDITIONS.
ALSO THIS POSITION WILL COORDINATE WITH METRO HEALTH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS TO INCLUDE OUTSIDE AGENCIES AS WE BEGIN THIS WORK. THE POSITION WILL BE FILLED BY THE END OF 20/23. WE HAVE RECEIVED A TREMENDOUS RESPONSE OF INDIVIDUALS APPLYING FOR THIS POSITION. AND FINALLY, IN THIS CATEGORY, THE '24 BUDGET APPROVED CREATING A POSITION -- A GRANT'S COORDINATOR THAT WILL FOCUS ON LOOKING FOR GRANTS THAT THE CITY CAN APPLY THAT ADDRESS CRIME PREVENTION AND RESI RESIVE DISM.
SO BASED ON THIS INFORMATION THAT I PROVIDED TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNITY, WE BELIEVE THESE ONGOING INITIATIVES ADDRESS THE PRIORITIES OUTLINED IN THE CCR. WE ARE NOT RECOMMENDING THE CREATION OF AN OFFICE OF CRIME AND RESIF DISM. I WOULD LIKE TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON WHAT ARE THE OUTCOMES THAT YOU WOULD LIKE US TO ACHIEVE SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IMPLEMENTING THOSE, BRING THOSE BACK TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE AND RECEIVE YOUR FEEDBACK AAS WE CONTINUE TO MAKE PROGRESS IN YOUR CRIME REDUCTION EFFORTS. THAT CONCLUDES MY
PRESENTATION. >> HAVRDA: I'LL MOVE OVER TO MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: I WANT TO ADDRESS A FEW THINGS. THERE ARE SOME STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT, OF COURSE, IRRITATE ME, BUT I FIND THIS ONE TO BE PARTICULARLY VEXING. MY TEAM AND I ARE THOUGHTFUL IN THE IDEAS THAT WE PROPOSE, THE STRATEGIES THAT WE USE TO INTRODUCE THEM, AND HOW WE GO ABOUT GETTING SUPPORT FOR THEM. THEY DESERVE CARE AND CONSIDERATION AND I'VE SEEN A VERY FEW COUNCILMEMBERS CCR OR PROPOSALS AS DELIBERATELY IGNORED AND PLAY TENTLY DISRESPECTED AS MINE ARE. IN TIME MINE HAVE BEEN LEFT OFF AGENDAS AS HAS BEEN MY EXPERIENCE WITH FOOD ACCESS PLAN AND INSULIN, BOTH WERE FORWARDED FROM CHECC TO FULL COUNCIL ON OCTOBER 27TH OF LAST YEAR. NEVER AGENDIZE FOR B SESSION.
YOU'LL SEE THIS CCR HAS TAKEN ALMOST TWO YEARS TO GET TO THIS POINT SINCE I FIRST FILED IT AND I HAVE ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS EARNED COUNCIL SUPPORT SUCH AS THE TWO POSITIONS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED EARLIER ON WHICH I'M VERY CLEAR ON THE OBJECTIVES, BUT THEY GO -- THEY'VE SLOWLY MORPHED INTO OTHER THINGS AND WITH KEY DIRECTION IGNORED. FOR EXAMPLE, THEM EXISTING WITHIN THE OFFICE OF INNOVATION, WHICH BRINGS ME TO THIS ITEM IN WHICH I HAD SEGHTS FROM TERI, ADRIANA, JOHN AND MELISSA ON A CCR IN WHICH I FEEL LIKE I'M VERY CLEAR ON THE OFFICE'S OBJECTIVES, YET STAFF HAS PRESENTED NO RESEARCH INTO WHAT OTHER OFFICES LOOK LIKE IN OTHER CITIES, WHAT POSITION AN OFFICE LIKE THIS MAY INCLUDE, ANY SORT OF COST ANALYSIS OR OPTION FOR AN OFFICE SO THAT THE COMMITTEE CAN HAVE A FULLER DISCUSSION ON THE PROPOSAL AND MAKE A DECISION FROM TH.
THAT'S THE KIND OF PRESENTATION THAT I EXPECT FOR A CCR.
I SEE VERY, VERY LITTLE WORK DONE IN RESPONSE TO THE CCR, JUST A LIST OF PEACE MEAL INITIATIVES THAT DO NOT EQUATE TO THE PROPOSAL THAT I INITIATED. AND IT'S TAKING THE WORDS THAT I SAY AND TRYING TO MAKE A BUNCH OF FEELS FEEL LIKE A RESPONSE AND A PERSONALIZED DELIBERATE RESPONSE, BUT TO ME IT FEELS LIKE A MIDDLE FINGER IN THE FORM OF WE DON'T CARE TO LOOK INTO WHAT YOUR CCR WOULD TAKE AND SO WHEER ARE ALL THE REASONS WHY WE SHOULDN'T. AND I'M SURE Y'ALL CAN UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S FRUSTRATING AND WHILE I FEEL THAT WAY.
IF THE MISSION THAT I PROPOSED WAS BEING ACCOMPLISHED, I'D DROP THE PROPOSAL, I PROMISE. I'VE BEEN INCREDIBLY DLEER ON THAT.
IT'S PIECEMEAL, I'M NOT NAIVE, IT'S HARD NOT TO FEEL DISRESPECTED LIKE I SAID THE SYSTEM HAS BEEN SET UP. AND I WANT TO BE CLEAR ON MY POSITION, WHEN A COUNCILMEMBER FILES A CCR FILES A CCR REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT I AGREE OF IT, IT'S IT IS NOT STAFF'S ROLE TO DISREGARD IT AND WAIT IT OUT UNTIL THE COUNCILMEMBER IS NO LONGER IN OFFICE OR TO REFUSE TO RESPOND DIRECTLY TO ITS PURPOSE.
I DON'T WANT IT TO HAPPEN TO ME SO I'M GLAD COUNCILMAN WHYTE HAS
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INITIATED THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.MY REQUEST WAS FOR AN OFFICE OF CRIME AND RECIDIVISM REPREN SHUN AND FOR ME THAT LOOKS LIKE A CENTRALIZED TEAM OF CRIMINAL OIL AND GASES CRIMINOLOGIST. THIS INCLUDES BOTH VIOLENT AND NONVIOLENT CRIME. IT SHOULD COORDINATE BETWEEN DEPARTMENTS IN THE WAY THAT THE DEIA OFFICE SHOULD WITH WORKING WITH ALL OTHER DEPARTMENTS. SO FOR MY COLLEAGUES, I WANT TO BREAK DOWN A FEW OF THE GAPS THAT EXIST AND WHAT STAFF PRESENTED IN THE ORIGINAL PROPOSALS. SO DURING GOVERNANCE, ONE OF THE THEMES THAT WAS RECURRING IS THAT EVERYONE SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON CRIME PREVENTION AND THE EFFORT SHOULDN'T BE CENTRALIZED.
THE PROBLEM IS WHEN, AND I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, WHEN SOMETHING IS EVERYONE'S JOB, THEN IT'S NO ONE'S JOB AND THAT'S THE CASE WITH CRIME PREVENTION AT LARGE RIGHT NOW. ANOTHER IS THAT OUR UTSA PLAN PARTIALLY IN LINE WITH MY OVERALL BELIEFS OF TARGETING CRIME AT ITS ROOT, I THINK IT'S GREAT, IS STILL BASED ON A ONE-TIME STUDY AND WILL RELY HEAVILY ON ONE-TIME FUNDING BASED ON CURRENT CONDITIONS TODAY.
FIVE YEARS AGO WE NEVER WOULD HAVE PREDICTED THE CONDITIONS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY OPERATING UNDER OR THE CLIMATE OF CRIME TODAY.
THE SAME WILL BE SAID FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, AND SO THAT MAKES A STUDY AT THAT POINT KIND OF A MOOT POINT. WHAT I BELIEVE WE NEED IS A PERNLT INNOCENT TEAM THAT WILL BE FOCUSING ON CCOMPLISHING THE WORK YEAR ROUND SO WE DON'T HAVE TO SPEND HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO EXTERNAL RESEARCH INSTITUTIONS WHEN WE COULD EMPLOY PEOPLE THAT WOULD BECOME A PERMANENT PART OF OUR TEAM AND BUILD ONGOING RELATIONSHIPS WITH CITY DEPARTMENTS, COUNCIL OFFICES AND THE COMMUNITY. AGAIN, THE UTSA STUDY IS ONE TIME.
THE STRATEGYIC PLAN IS ONE TIME. THERE'S ROOM FOR AN OFFICE LIKE THIS TO WORK COLLABORATIVELY ON THE PLANS BUT LARGELY THERE'S A STRONGER OPPORTUNITY FOR THE OFFICE TO ENSURE THAT THE ONGOING FOLLOW THROUGH OF THE RESEARCH BEING DONE TODAY WITH THE EFFICACIED THAT A STRONGER RAPPORT ALLOWS. ANOTHER GAP, NO ONE IN THE CITY IS DOING RESITED VISM WORK. WE GIVE MONEY TO ORGANIZATIONS LIKE FREED AND WE CALL IT A JOB WELL DONE AND THEY DESERVE MUCH MORE THAN THAT.
THE VIOLENT STRATEGY, METRO HEALTH HAD TO DROP ALMOST EVERYTHING TO RESPOND TO THE PANDEMIC, THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR DIABETES, FOOD ACCESS AND RECOVER, METRO HEALTH AND ALL THAT THAT ENTAILS AND SOON IT'S GOING TO HOUSE REPRODUCTIVE JUSTICE AND EVERY OTHER HEALTH RELATED ISSUE AS THEY ARISE AND GOD FORBID THERE BE ANOTHER PANDEMIC.
SO WHILE THERE'S A ROLL THAT MENTAL HEALTH PLAYS IN SOME CRIME, CRIME IS SIGNIFICANT AND BROAD ENOUGH TO WARRANT ITS OWN SPACE AND EFFORT.
WE'VE HAD A TON OF CONVERSATION ABOUT VIOLENT CRIME BEING DOWN WHILE PROPERTY CRIME HAS GONE UP. THAT IS NOT ADDRESSED.
AND NO ONE'S ROLE RIGHT NOW IS TO PREVENT PROPERTY CRIME.
SO, AGAIN, I WANT TO STRESS THAT THE INITIATIVES LAID OUT IN THE PRESENTATION ARE LARGELY ONE-TIME INITIATIVES AND PROVIDE A SNAPSHOT OF WHERE THEY ARE AND THEY'RE FOCUS IS ALMOST ENTIRELY ON VIE LEBT CRIME. I WANT TO PROVIDE AN EXAMPLE OF THOUSAND THIS COULD WORK. SOME OF YOU HAVE HEARD THIS EXAMPLE BEFORE.
THE OFFICE STAFF CONTINUES A MONTHLY MEETING WITH SAPD, WHETHER IT'S WITH THE CHIEF OR ANOTHER MEMBER OF THE DEPARTMENT.
DURING THE MEETING, SAPD BRINGS UP RISE IN PROPERTY CRIMES, INCLUDING A TREND ON TIKTOK THAT SPIKES AN UPTICK IN KIA THEFTS.
THE OFFICE TAKES THAT INFO AND DIVES INTO BEST PRACTICES BASE ON EXISTING RESEARCH AND INITIATIVES THAT OTHER CITIES HAVE IMPLEMENTED TO ADDRESS SIMILAR ISSUES. THEY PROPOSE A SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGN TO DETER CRIME BY HIGHLIGHTING THE CONSEQUENCES AND SIMULTANEOUSLY -- A SIMULTANEOUS INITIATIVE TO INCREASE AWARENESS FOR CAR OWNERS TO TAKE STEPS TO TAKE STEPS TO PREVENT THEIR CAR PR R FROM BEING STOLEN. THEY THEN COORDINATE BETWEEN SAPD AND C & E TO EVALUATE IMPLEMENTATION, EVALUATE EFFECTIVENESS AND ADJUST AS NEEDED.
THAT IS NOT HAPPENING NOW AND THERE IS NOT A MECHANISM FOR IT.
IF I WANTED SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I WOULD HAVE TO WAIT FOR A COMMITTEE MEETING WHERE I WOULD HAVE TO FILE A CCR. THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE SHOULD BE MORE PROACTIVE ABOUT. THEY COULD ALSO WORK PROACTIVELY TO IDENTIFY GRANT OPPORTUNITIES -- PUBLIC WORKS, ARTS AND CULTURE, OHP AND OTHERS, BRINGING ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO OUR CITY SO WE COULD ACTIVATE VACANT LOTS.
WE COULD DO MORE. THEY COULD IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES FOR CRIME PREVENTION THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN, A LENS THAT GUARDOPIA GARDENS WAS BUILT THROUGH. IT COULD PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR OUR DELEGATE AGENCY PROCESS TO ORGANIZATIONS AND INCREASE STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT AND COLLABORATION TO ACCOMPLISH THE GOAL OF VIOLENT AND NONVIOLENT CRIME AND RECIDIVISM PREVENTION. I'M BEING VERBOSE, IF I COULD JUST FINISH.
I'VE LAID OUT THE WAY I BELIEVE AN OFFICE COULD WORK AND THE PUBLIC WHO CAME OUT TO SPECK SPEAK TODAY DEMONSTRATED INTEREST.
WE HAVE TWO NEWLY CREATED I ADVOCATED FOR CAN BE UTILIZED AND WE CAN EVEN CENTRALIZE MORE POSITIONS. I BELIEVE IN THE IDEA SO MUCH THAT I WOULD LIKE US TO USE THIS COMMITTEE TO COLLABORATE AND BUILD OUT WHAT WE THINK THE OFFICE SHOULD DO AND LOOK LIKE, KRUING ROLES, OUTCOMES, ITS STRUCTURE AND HOW THEY'D COORDINATE WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
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I WANT US TO CREATE THAT TOGETHER U AND I'M DOWN TO DO IT FROM SCRATCH WITH Y'ALL. MY REQUEST AND SUGGESTION IS WE BUILD IT TOGETHER AT THE NEXT AVAILABLE PUBLIC SAFETY MEETING WITH THE SIMPLE FOUNDATION THAT IT BE A CENTRALIZED HUB THAT COORDINATES WITH CITY DEPARTMENTS AND SAPD TO ADDRESS -- IDEALLY WE CAN THEN GET TO A POINT WHERE WE FEEL COMFORTABLE AS A BODY AND EVENTUALLY SEND THAT TO FULL COUNCIL. I INTEND TO MAKE A CORRESPONDING MOTION AFTER THE DISCUSSION'S CONCLUDED BUT I'M ALSO WILLING TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS MY COLLEAGUES HAVE.SO THANK YOU, CHAIR FOR ALLOWING ME THAT. >> HAVRDA: I WAS JUST GOING DO ASK YOU THAT, IF THAT WAS A MOTION, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO -- OKAY.
I'LL GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MARIA, IF YOU WANT -- HAVE ANY ANSWER ANY OF THOSE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, OR DO YOU WANT TO GO ON TO PUBLIC
COMMENT. >> VILLAGOMEZ: YES, THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. SO WE TAKE ALL CCRS WITH A LOT OF GREAT RESPECT AND WE PROVIDE TO THE COMMITTEES OUR PROFESSIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE ISSUES AT HAND. THAT IS HOW WE ARE ADDRESSING THIS PARTICULAR CCR. WE STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT THOSE INITIATIVES THAT WE -- THAT I JUST COVERED ARE NOT ONE-TIME IN NATURE, BUT THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE ARE -- THEY'RE PAVING THE ROAD FOR US TO BE MORE STRATEGIC AND MORE DELIBERATE ABOUT ADDRESSING CRIME IN OUR COMMUNITY. ALSO, THIS COMMITTEE, ALONG WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, THEY PROVIDE THE STAFF WITH POLICY DIRECTION, THINGS THAT THEY WANT TO BE -- TO ACCOMPLISH.
WE AS THE STAFF MAKE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW TO ACCOMPLISH THAT, SO WHAT I WOULD ASK FOR THE COMMITTEE IS TO TELL US WHAT ARE THOSE OUTCOMES THAT YOU WANT US TO FOCUS ON AND THEN THE CITY MANAGER'S ROLE IS TO COME AND PRESENT HOW WE WILL DELIVER THAT AND YOU EVALUATE US BASED ON THAT. THE CREATION OF THE OFFICE IN ITSELF AND THE ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE THAT IS UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THE CITY MANAGER, SO WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND TO THIS COMMITTEE IS, AGAIN, TO FOCUS ON THE OUTCOMES THAT YOU WANT US TO ACHIEVE AND WE'LL COME BACK WITH THE WAYS ON HOW WE GET TO THOSE OUTCOMES. THANK YOU.
>> HAVRDA: THANK YOU, MARIA. I THINK I'M HEARING THAT SIMILARITY FROM BOTH OF THE LAST SPEAKERS, FOR THIS COMMITTEE TO FOCUS ON OUTCOMES, CORRECT? SO THAT MAY BE IN LINE WITH YOUR FUTURE MOTION, BUT WE'LL SEE. OKAY. OKAY.
DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS, ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY.
GO AHEAD COUNCILWOMAN ALDARETE GAVITO. DWAFS TH
>> GAVITO: THANK YOU, CHAIR. MARIA, IF YOU DON'T MIND STAYING, I HAVE AG GENERAL QUESTIONS ABOUT BOTH.
I CAN IMAGINE THAT IS A FRUSTRATING EXPERIENCE, I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW I HEAR YOU ON THAT. MARIA, ON THE -- ON ALL OF THE -- IF YOU GO TO, I THINK, TWO MORE SLIDES, ON ALL OF THESE GUYS. THE SA FORWARD PLAN, THE VIOLENCE PREVENTION STRATEGIC PLAN, THE CRIME PREVENTION PLAN, WHAT IS THE FREQUENCY THAT THEY'RE REPORTING TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE? LIKE ARE THEY REPORTING QUARTERLY, ANNUALLY, MONTHLY?
>> VILLAGOMEZ: SO THE VIOLENCE PREVENTION STRATEGIC PLAN, AS I MENTIONED IS BEING DEVELOPED, SO WE'VE ONLY BRIEFED THIS COMMITTEE ONCE. WE'RE READY TO COME BACK IN NOVEMBER WITH THE ACTUAL PLAN. AND AFTER THAT IS PRESENTED, WE CAN DEVELOP A TEMPO THAT THIS COMMITTEE DESIRES TO COME BACK, PERHAPS ON A QUARTERLY BASIS. THAT'S WHAT WE DO FOR CRIME STATISTICS AND FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT PERFORMANCE METRICS, WE COME ON A QUARTERLY BASIS. FOR THE CRIME PREVENTION PLAN, WE STARTED IN JANUARY, AND WE HAVE DONE TWO BRIEFINGS TO THE FULL COUNCIL AFTER WE COMPLETED THE 60-DAY PERIODS THAT WE STARTED, THE MIDYEAR REPORT, I -- WE ARE READY TO PRESENT TO THIS COMMITTEE IN OCTOBER.
>> GAVITO: OKAY. >> VILLAGOMEZ: FOR THE INITIATIVES THAT ARE UNDER THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY PROGRAM, WE HAVE NOT PRESENTED THAT. WE'RE IN THE FINAL STAGES, AND WE'LL BE PREPARED TO PRESENT THAT AS EARLY AS OCTOBER. AND THEN DEFINE THE TEMPO ON HOW THIS COMMITTEE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THOSE INITIATIVES, TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT THE OTHER AREAS OF INTEREST AROUND PUBLIC SAFETY.
>> GAVITO: YEAH, AND I'M JUST THINKING OUT LOUD HERE, BECAUSE AS CHAIRWOMAN CABELLO HAVRDA SAID, IF WE'RE FOCUSED ON OUTCOMES, I'M WONDERING IF -- IF WE COULD CHANGE THE REPORTING STRUCTURE SO THAT -- YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I'M SURE ALL OF THESE INITIATIVES HAVE GREAT DATA, BUT I DO ALSO THINK THAT WHAT COUNCILMAN MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ MENTIONED IF IT'S EVERYONE'S JOB, IT'S NO ONE'S JOB. SO I'M KIND OF CRE WONDERING IF WE CREATE A LEAD FOR THIS INITIATIVE, AND IT COULD BE ONE OF THE NEW POSITIONS THAT YOU ADVOCATED FOR, LIKE A GRANT COORDINATOR, TO
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LEAD US IN MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE SHARING THIS INFORMATION.I MEAN, WE ALL KNOW HOW BIG ORGANIZATIONS FUNCTION, PEOPLE GET IN SILOS, PEOPLE DON'T TALK TO EACH OTHER, AND I THINK THAT WE LOSE INFORMATION THAT WAY. SO -- I MEAN, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE -- IT'S ALL OF OUR JOBS TO BE RESPECTFUL OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS, YOU KNOW, AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT CREATING ANY REDUNDANT EFFORTS, BUT I'M ALSO WONDERING, ARE WE JUST SITTING ON A WEALTH OF DATA -- IN AUDIO] -- REACHES THE SURFACE IN A MORE FREQUENT FASHION, TALK AND COLLABORATE WITH EACH OTHER AND, AGAIN, JUST HAVE SOMEONE DRIVING THIS AND PRESENTING IT TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE GOING FORWARD.
AND WE MIGHT ALREADY BE HAVING THESE POSITIONS. YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE.
I THINK THAT THAT'S WORTH A DISCUSSION IN SEEING WHO'S DOING WHAT.
YOU KNOW, GETTING-- WORKING ON THOSE DETAILS THERE.
I THINK MAYBE A LOT OF IT IS THE KEY OF THE FREQUENCY OF REPORTING.
THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN, AND TO ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION, THE POSITION THAT PUBLIC SAFETY OUTCOMES COORDINATOR WILL BE THAT -- A CENTRAL INDIVIDUAL THAT IS WORKING WITH SAPD AND ALL THE OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS, THIS POSITION WILL ALSO -- IS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HOUSE THE GOOD NEIGHBOR PROGRAM.
YOU MAY RECALL THAT THE COUNCIL APPROVED THREE DATA POSITIONS TO BE ABLE TO FURTHER ANALYZE THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVE AT HAND.
TO YOUR POINT, THERE'S MORE THAT WE CAN DO. THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR US, SO THIS PARTICULAR INDIVIDUAL IS THE ONE
WHO'S GOING TO BE LEADING THAT EFFORT AS >> GAVITO: AND I'M GOING INTO A LITTLE PROGRAM MANAGER MODE. WE HAVE ALL THESE INITIATIVES AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE IDENTIFYING TRENDS AND REPORTING ON THOSE TRENDS SO WE CAN GET STARTER ABOUT CARING FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
>> VILLAGÓMEZ: SURE AND THAT POSITION WILL REPORT TO ME.
I OVERSEE THE PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY ORGANIZATION, SO I WILL ENSURE THAT THAT COORDINATION IS HAPPENING. NOT ONLY WITH THE PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENTS, BUT ALONG THE OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY.
>> HAVRDA: THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER GAVITO. >> WHYTE: I'M IN COMPLETE AGREEMENT WITH COUNCILMAN RODRIGUEZ ON THE CCR ISSUE. AND SO I THINK WE'RE MOVING TOWARDS GETTING THAT FIXED BECAUSE TWO YEARS IS TOO LONG.
ALL THESE THINGS NEED TO BE HEARD IN OPEN LIGHT AND GET VOTES AND MOVED ALONG OR KILLED. AND SO I'M WITH YOU ON THAT. THIS INITIATIVE IS I THINK A COMPLETELY WORTHY, NOBLE INITIATIVE, BUT MY CONCERNS AS MAYBE EXAMINED ARE THAT I THINK A LOT OF WHAT YOU WANT TO DO HERE IS EITHER DUPLICATIVE OF EFFORTS THAT ARE ALREADY ONGOING OR CAN BE ADDRESSED BY THE TEAM THAT IS ALREADY IN PLACE THAT'S DEALING IN THESE AREAS. AND SO I REALLY LIKE WHAT MARIA SAID ABOUT LET'S LOOK AT EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT TO ACCOMPLISH HERE AND LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE TEAM WE'VE ALREADY GOT IN PLACE AND, LIKE COUNCILWOMAN GAVITO SAID, IF WE'VE GOT TO PUT SOMEBODY IN CHARGE OF THIS SPECIFIC TOPIC, GREAT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO SEE MORE POSITIONS HIRED AND MORE -- MORE GOVERNMENT IN THIS WHEN I THINK WE PROBABLY ALREADY HAVE THE PEOPLE IN PLACE. AND IF WE JUST GET A LITTLE BIT MORE ORGANIZED AND PERHAPS MORE FOCUSED ON WHAT YOU WANT TO ADDRESS, COUNCILMAN, I THINK THAT WE CAN PROBABLY DO IT WITH WHO WE'VE GOT.
AND FOR ME, IF IT'S A QUESTION OF, YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS TALK ABOUT TIE GOES TO RUNNER. IF IT'S A QUESTION OF DOING THIS THROUGH ADDING MORE PEOPLE AND MORE AND MORE DEPARTMENTS VERSUS INVESTING IN WHAT WE'VE ALREADY GOT, I'M FOR INVESTING IN WHAT WE'VE ALREADY GOT. THANKS.
>> HAVRDA: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER WHYTE. THERE'S BEEN SOME COMMENT ABOUT THE CCR PROCESS AND WE WANT TO STAY ON FOCUS WITH THE AGENDA.
I DON'T WANT TO GET IN TROUBLE WITH ANY OF THE ATTORNEYS IN THE ROOM.
HAVING SAID THAT, I VERY QUICKLY WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT TAKING ACCOUNTABILITY MYSELF BECAUSE THIS -- IT'S MY RESPONSIBILITY TO PUT IT ON
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PUBLIC SAFETY AGENDA. AND I DIDN'T GET TO IT FAST ENOUGH.SO I'M GOING TO HOLD SOME RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT. OKAY, BUT NO MORE TALK ABOUT
CCR. COUNCILWOMAN DR. KAUR. >> KAUR: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
I HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THE VIOLENCE PREVENTION STRATEGIC PLAN.
COULD YOU JUST SAYER A LITTLE ABOUT LIKE THE -- SHARE ABOUT THE COMMITTEE THAT'S PUTTING TOGETHER THAT PLAN. I KNOW THERE'S COMMUNITY INPUT THAT'S HAPPENING, BUT ARE THE PEOPLE LEADING THAT WORK AT METRO HEALTH?
>> VILLAGÓMEZ: YES, AND I'M GOING TO ASK ERIKA TO COME JOINED ME.
THE GROUP WHO IS LEADING THIS IS LED BY METRO HEALTH, AND THERE'S A TEAM THAT CONSISTS OF A REPRESENTATIVE FROM UTSA, A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ST. JOHN'S BAPTIST CHURCH. AND AGAIN, THEY ARE PART OF A COHORT. THERE'S 17 DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT WERE SELECTED BY THE NATIONAL LEADERSHIP ACADEMY FOR PUBLIC HEALTH TO IMPLEMENT A PUBLIC HEALTH APPROACH TO ADDRESS SPECIFIC ISSUES WITHIN THEIR COMMUNITY.
>> KAUR: SO THERE ARE TEAMS INSIDE TEAMS TO GET THIS DONE.
THE FIRST PHASE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THE COMMUNITY INPUT AND DATA REVIEW.
THEN WE HAVE THIS COORDINATING TEAM THE DEPEND DEPUTY CITY MANAGER MENTIONED. THEN WE IDENTIFIED FOCUSED -- LOPS AUDIO] EACH GROUP HAD ANYWHERE BETWEEN 8 AND 20 PEOPLE IN IT.
ULTIMATELY THERE WERE AROUND 50 PEOPLE THAT CONTRIBUTED TO THE WORK PLANS AND A REALLY GOOD REPRESENTATION OF SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS, PEOPLE WORKING FOR THE CITY, COUNTY, HEALTH CARE ORGANIZATIONS, PEOPLE WITH LIVED EXPERIENCE, PEOPLE IN THE FAITH COMMUNITY, BUSINESS COMMUNITY. WE TRIED TO FILL A CATEGORY FOR EACH OF THESE GROUPS TO MAKE SURE WE HAD GOOD REPRESENTATION.
THEY WENT THROUGH THREE SESSIONS THAT I LED AND I DID NOT GIVE INPUT, I JUST NAVIGATED THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS. WE DID HAVE SOME KIND OF CITY WORKER IN EVERY ONE OF THESE, AND THEY DEVELOPED A DRAFT FOR EACH OF THE FOUR AREAS. THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE OUT BEING CIRCULATED FOR INPUT RIGHT NOW. THEN WE'LL POLISH IT UP AND PUT IT TOGETHER FOR THE
FINAL PRODUCT IN NOVEMBER. >> KAUR: REMIND ME OF THE FOUR AREAS?
>> SEXUAL ABUSE, GUN VIOLENCE FOCUSED ON NEIGHBORHOOD SHOOTINGS AND MASS VIOLENCE, AND THEN YOUTH ON YOUTH VIOLENCE FOCUSED ON SCHOOL SETTINGS
AND AFTER SCHOOL. >> KAUR: WHY WAS PROPERTY CRIME LEFT OUT OF THE LEFT?
>> VIOLENT CRIME IS A CRIME AGAINST A PERSON. CONSIDERING -- AND PROPERTY CRIMINAL OBVIOUSLY HAS A BIG IMPACT ON THINGS, IT DRIVES INSURANCE UP, BUT THE FOCUS OF MY WORK AREA IS ON VIOLENT CRIME AS THE THINGS THAT ARE PHYSICALLY HARMFUL
TO PEOPLE AND MOST LIKELY TO RESULT IN FATALITY. >> KAUR: DOT IT.
SO WHAT COULD YOU SAY AND YOU CREATE THIS PLAN, THERE'S THIS BEAUTIFUL DOCUMENT WE CREATE AND THEY SIT ON A SHELF. HOW WOULD YOU SAY WE WOULD BE IMPLEMENTING THIS. WHAT'S GOING TO COME OUT OF THIS AS A RESULT?
>> I KNEW ONE PERSON WOULD ASK THIS QUESTION TODAY. I'VE BEEN A PLANNER FOR 20 YEARS SO IT IS A HAZARD. BECAUSE I OVERSEE 104 PEOPLE AT METRO HEALTH, THE REASON I STARTED THIS, I CAME IN AND SAID I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO DO, BUT I WANT TO FIGURE IT OUT WOULD OTHER PEOPLE. I DON'T WANT TO DIED THIS BY MYSELF.
UTILIZING THIS TO STEER OUR EFFORTS AROUND VIOLENCE PREVENTION IN TANDEM WITH WHAT SAPD IS DOING IN THEIR CRIME REDUCTION PLAN. AND I HAVE BEEN MAKING EFFORTS WITH OUR PARTNERS TO DO THE SAME THING. BY COMMUNICATING THIS PLAN AS A ROAD MAP FOR ALL OF US SO THAT WE CAN LAYER OUR EFFORTS AND ACTUALLY HAVE AN IMPACT TOGETHER INSTEAD OF RUNNING IN 20 DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.
>> KAUR: SO THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE GOING TO BE LIKE ORGANIZATION BASED ESSENTIALLY. FOR SAPD THERE ARE SOME, FOR METRO HEALTH THERE ARE
OTHERS. >> WITH THE IDEA BEING MAYBE A COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION'S MISSION ALLIANCE WELL WITH SOMETHING AND THEY JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY SHOULD DO BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW THE EVIDENCE OR WHAT IS APPROPRIATE FOR A COMMUNITY.
AND THEN MY OFFICE WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THIS OVER THE SPAN OF THE PLAN
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AND MONITOR DATA, PULL TOGETHER REPORTS. >> KAUR: ARE WE TYING
FUNDING TO IT? >> THERE ISN'T FUNDING TIED TO IT THAT WOULD BE DISTRIBUTED SPECIFICALLY FOR ACTIONS, BUT YOU CAN USE IT TO ATTRACT FUNDING.
IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR A GRANTOR TO SAY IF YOU HAVE A COMMUNITY-WIDE PLAN IN PLACE THAT YOU CAN DEMONSTRATE, WE'LL GIVE YOU PIECES TO THAT.
OR SOLID PARTNERSHIP IN PLAYS WITH A DIFFERENT ORGANIZATION WE'LL FUND YOU
FOR THAT. >> KAUR: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
FOR CITY STAFF, AND I KNOW COUNCILMEMBER MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ MENTIONED, BUT OUR STAFF IN D1 FOUND A COUPLE OF OTHER CITIES THAT ARE IMPLEMENTING, LIKE GEORGE HAS ONE OF THESE AND THE OFFICE OF COLUMBUS, GEORGE HAS AN OFFICE OF CRIME PREVENTION, THE MARYLAND GOVERNOR'S OFFICE HAS ONE.
HAVE WE DONE A COMPARISON OF WHAT THOSE OFFERS ARE DOING AND MAYBE THEIR OUTCOMES?
>> WE HAVE, COUNCILWOMAN. IN MORE DETAIL THE CITY OF DALLAS HAS AN OFFICE THAT FOCUS ON SOME INITIATIVES THAT I WOULD SAY THEY ARE MORE RELATED TO POLICE INITIATIVES. FOR INSTANCE, THEY HANDLE OR MANAGE A PROGRAM SIMILAR TO OUR DART PROGRAM. SO IT VARIES IN TERMS OF WHAT THEIR OUTCOMES ARE DEPENDING ON THOSE PROGRAMS. THAT'S WHY I WAS INTERESTED IN -- AFTER MAKING THIS PRESENTATION IN THEIR SPECIFIC AREAS OF THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE FOR US TO ADD OR FOCUS ON, THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE HEAVILY WORKING WITH IS WITH UTSA TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE INITIATIVES THAT YOU SEE HERE BEFORE YOU ARE EVIDENCE BASED AND THEY ARE HELPING US NAVIGATE DEVELOPING INDICATORS, METRICS AND EVALUATING OUR RESULTS, WHICH I THINK IS SOMETHING THAT WE BENEFIT FROM EXPERTS LIKE UTSA THAT HELP IN THE EVALUATION TOOL.
THEY ARE AN INDEPENDENT BODY AND I'VE SEEN IT WORKING WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE DEPARTMENT PLAN. THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS FOCUSING ON CRIME ISSUES.
UTSA IS LOOKING AT THE DATA, THE RESULTS AND THEN SALTING IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PLAN
AND OUR FIDELITY TO THEM. >> KAUR: THANK YOU. I GUESS MY OVERALL COMMENTS ON THIS IS THE TWO THINGS --
>> ABOUT, ONE, ARE PROPERTY CRIME AND SOMEONE COMING UP WITH INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS LIKE ADDITIONAL LIGHTING OR BROKEN WINDOW THEORY WE KNOW ARE IMPACTFUL FROM A CITY PERSPECTIVE THAT WE CAN PUT FUNDING TOWARDS. AND THEN TWO, RECIDIVISM.
WE KNOW THAT WE NEED TO DECREASE THAT AND I DIDN'T HEAR THAT AS MUCH FROM THE PRESENTATIONS. AND I THINK THE WORK WE'RE ALREADY DOING IS GREAT, BUT I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO DOUBLE DOWN ON PUBLIC SAFETY.
SO THANKS, CHAIR. >> HAVRDA: THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN DR. KAUR.
OKAY, SO LET'S GO BACK -- GO AHEAD, MARIA. >> VILLAGÓMEZ: I WAS GOING TO SEE IF YOU WOULD GIVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY, IN TERMS OF PROPERTY CRIME, COUNCILWOMAN, WHAT WE'RE DOING PROBLEM ORIENTED POLICE BASED -- ALTHOUGH WE'RE TARGETING SPECIFIC AREAS OF THE CITY THAT HAVE HIGH VIOLENT CRIME, SOLUTIONS LIKE LIGHTING OR ACTIVATING OF A VACANT SPACE, THAT WILL PROBABLY HAVE AN IMPACT ON OVERALL CRIME, PROPERTY CRIME AS WELL IN THOSE AREAS.
HAPPY TO COME BACK TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE AND PRESENT AN EFFORT THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT STARTED IN THE WAY THEY ADDRESS PROPERTY CRIME.
AND SO WE CAN LOOK AT THE RESULTS THAT WE HAVE SEEN SO FAR SINCE A REORGANIZATION
THAT WAS MADE BY THE POLICE CHIEF. >> HAVRDA: OKAY.
COUNCILMEMBER MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: THANK YOU, CHAIR. CITY STAFF DID NOT RECOMMEND INCLUSION OF THE TWO POSITIONS. I FOUGHT FOR ONE TO BE A CRIME AND RECIDIVISM PREVENTION COORDINATOR, BUT I WON'T BE PICKY. THE GRANT POSITION AS WELL I ADVOCATED FOR AND I ALWAYS ADVOCATED FOR THEM SO WE WOULD GET CLOSER TO THE OFFICE CRIME RECIDIVISM PREVENTION BECAUSE I KNOW THOSE TWO POSITIONS WOULDN'T BE ENOUGH. BOTH OF WHICH HAVE COST ZERO ADDITIONAL DOLLARS BECAUSE WE MOVED VACANT POSITIONS AROUND. I THINK THERE'S A WAY TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT YOU MENTIONED. WE COULD EVEN MOVE POSITIONS AROUND TO CREATE A CENTRALIZED HUB ANSWERS BOTH OF Y'ALL'S POINT. EXPECTING IMPORTANCE TO BEST PRACTICES AND TOWARD NATURE WITH SAPD AS WELL. I WANT MORE THAN ONE PERSON DOING THAT WORK OF COORDINATING WITH EVERY DEPARTMENT.
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TO SAY THAT THE ONE OUTCOME'S COORDINATOR IS GOING TO DO A QUALITY JOB IS --L BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT GOAL THAT I LAID OUT. AND HOW WE GET IT IS, YOU KNOW, UP TO US. THERE WERE 47 VACANCIES IN METRO HEALTH AT ONE TIME THIS YEAR. WE HAVE EXISTING CITY POSITIONS THAT WE COULD BETTER UTILIZE TO CREATE AN OFFICE OR A HUB OR A DIVISION, FOCUSED ON THE OBJECTIVES I LAID OUT AND PROVIDE STRONGER IMPLEMENTATION AND COORDINATION OF EXISTING CONDITIONS. PROPERTY CRIME WAS A HUGE CONCERN OF OUR CONSTITUENTS THIS HE VEHICLES. AND THAT'S A GAP.OTHER NON-VIOLENT CRIMES WERE A PRIORITY AND AGAIN THERE WEREN'T ANY -- THERE WERE VERY SLIM INITIATIVES THAT ADDRESS THAT IN HERE. AND SO ONCE AGAIN I WANT TO -- I WANT TO REITERATE MY HOPE IS THAT WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THAT.
I KNOW STAFF IS GOING TO BE FOCUSED ON OUTCOMES. WE ARE POLICYMAKERS.
WE DO HAVE -- WE DO CREATE THINGS HERE. AND I THINK THAT'S OUR ROLE AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE OWE IT TO OUR COMMUNITY TO HAVE A GREATER DISCUSSION ON IT. AND TO TRY TO SEE WHAT CAN WE CREATE IN RESPONSE TO THE
CCR BECAUSE STAFF ISN'T GOING TO DO IT. >> HAVRDA: OKAY.
THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ. COUNCILMEMBER WHYTE.
>> WHYTE: I'LL JUST SAY WE ARE THE POLICY CREATORS, AND SO THAT'S WHY I -- MY POSITION IS THE BEST THING TO DO IS WE LOOK AT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE AND THE GAPS THAT YOU FEEL EXIST RIGHT NOW AND LET'S GET THEM LISTED.
AND THEN LET'S GO BACK TO STAFF AND SAY, OKAY, HERE'S WHAT WE THINK IS MISSING FROM WHAT WE'RE DOING ALREADY. CAN YOU GUYS GET THIS DONE AND FILL THESE GAPS WITH THE FOLKS THAT WE'VE ALREADY GOT IN PLACE AS IT SITS NOW.
>> COUNCILWOMAN, IF I MAY, I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE OFTEN FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES TO BE ABLE TO REMIND FOLKS ABOUT THE PARAMETERS AND EMPHASIZE WHAT THE TWO COUNCILMEMBERS JUST MENTIONED ABOUT THE ROLE OF COUNCIL AS POLICYMAKERS.
AND THEN THE ACTUAL DIRECTION AND PEOPLE THAT PERFORM IT IS WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THE CITY MANAGER. WITH REGARD TO HOW IT'S SET OUT IN THE CHARTER, JUST WANTED TO SORT OF REFLESH THAT AND EMPHASIZE THAT'S IN LINE WITH WHAT BOTH OF YOU ARE VAGUE, BUT, YOU KNOW, AS POLICYMAKERS, YOU GIVE THE DIRECTION AND THEN, OF COURSE, UNDER THE CITY MANAGER'S PURVIEW YOU WHO THAT GETS EXECUTED IS WITHIN
THAT PURVIEW. >> HAVRDA: POINT WELL MADE.
ON THAT SAME NOTE, I THINK IT BEHOOVES US AS A COMMITTEE WHATEVER DIRECTION WE CAN IS TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT WE'RE ASKING -- HOW WE ARE DIRECTING CITY STAFF. ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY. JUST BE REAL QUICK BECAUSE THIS IS THE LAST ONE.
GO AHEAD. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: I'LL JUST SAY I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION AT THE NEXT AVAILABLE PUBLIC SAFETY MEETING AND IF THAT
REQUIRES A MOTION, I CAN MAKE THAT. >> HAVRDA: NO MOTION NEEDED. AND I -- THAT'S MY JOB AGAIN, I TAKE ACCOUNTABILITY, SO WE'LL MAKE SURE WE GET IT BACK ON THE AGENDA.
I DO THINK THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT DISCUSSION. WE NEED TO BE VERY -- MARIA, YOU AND I NEED TO BE REALLY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT WE'RE AGENDIZING SO WE CAN DISCUSS EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED AND WE DON'T HAVE TO GO OFF TRACK.
BUT I THINK IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT DISCUSSION. WE'LL TRY TO CONTINUE THIS HOPEFULLY NEXT PUBLIC SAFETY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS JUST REAL
QUICK? MARIA, ANYTHING IN CLOSING? >> VILLAGÓMEZ: NO,
COUNCILWOMAN. >> HAVRDA: THANK YOU FOR Y'ALL'S TIME AND I THINK THAT'S IT FOR US. THANK EVERYBODY FOR BEING HERE.
A VERY IMPORTANT DISCUSSIONS AND THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
THANK YOU.
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