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WE'LL HAVE ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK ON ANYTHING, BUT I HAVE, I HAVE THIS, WHAT DO THEY GET? I DON'T KNOW.
THE TIME IS NINE, NINE, UH, 14:00 AM AND THIS IS THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD.
SO ANYBODY WHO'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HERE GOES IF YOU ARE ALL HERE.
I WILL READ THE, I WILL ASPIRE TO READ THE, UM, THE CHAIRMAN'S STATEMENT.
UM, CAN WE DO ROLL CALL? I'M SORRY.
COULD WE GET A ROLL CALL PLEASE? JESSE ZUNIGA.
ALSO PRESENT IN THE MEETING FROM THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ARE ERIC BURNS FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND FROM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
JENNY RAMIREZ, CO ENFORCEMENT MANAGER.
JENNIFER MARTINEZ, ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT TWO.
AND MYSELF, DEVELOPMENT SERV T DEVELOPMENT SERVICES SPECIALIST.
COULD WE GET THE SPANISH INTERPRETATION PLEASE? THERE'S NO ONE.
I WILL ASPIRE TO READ THE CHAIRMAN'S STATEMENT SINCE I HAVE IT IN BOLD PRINT NOW.
PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONE OR ANY DEVICE THAT MAY DISRUPT THIS, UH, HEARING.
NO PERSON, UH, SHALL DELAY OR DISRUPT THE PROCEEDINGS OR DISOBEY THE ORDER OF THE CHAIR.
IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON A CASE, YOU WILL HAVE, UM, YOU'LL BE ALLOWED THREE MINUTES.
HOWEVER, AN OWNER OR OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE WILL, UH, HAVE UNLIMITED TIME.
PLEASE KEEP ALL INFORMATION RELEVANT TO THE PROPERTY, UH, IN QUESTION AND THAT THE CODE VIOLATIONS AS ADVISED, UH, PRIOR TO THIS VIR PRIOR TO THIS HEARING, THE CITY WILL PROVIDE TRANSLATION SERVICES FOR ANYONE, EXCUSE ME, NEEDING ASSISTANCE.
IT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU HAVE, UM, MADE SUCH, UH, ARRANGEMENTS AND ADVISED IN YOUR, IN YOUR NOTICE OF HEARING.
OUR EXPECTATION IS THAT YOU SUBMITTED, UH, UH, THE REQUIRED DOCUMENTS PRIOR TO THE THIS HEARING.
YOUR RESPONSIBILITY AS A PROPERTY OWNER OR, UH, REPRESENTATIVE OR LIEN HOLDER OF A ATED STRUCTURE CASE IS TO DEMONSTRATE THE FOLLOWING.
NUMBER ONE, PROVIDE THE REQUIRED DOCUMENTS.
DISCUSS YOUR DETAILED SCOPE OF WORK WITH, UH, COST FOR EACH ITEM OUTLINED IN ORDER TO BRING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE TO THE SATISFACTION OF A CODE OFFICER.
NUMBER TWO, SUBMIT THE REQUIRED OF PROOF OF FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY, UH, TO PAY FOR DAMN, TO PAY FOR PROPOSED WORK AND DISCUSS FEASIBILITY OF REPAIRS DEPENDENT UPON THE MONIES AT HAND.
AND NUMBER THREE, REQUEST THE AMOUNT OF TIME NEEDED TO COMPLETE THE WORK.
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BY THE BOARD, YOU HAVE TO MAKE IT BIGGER.ALL ABATEMENTS ORDERED BY THE BOARD, UH, SHALL BE ENFORCED AND ALL WORK, UH, PROPOSED MUST BE, AND I CAN'T DO THREE OF THEM.
UH, MUST BE WITHIN, UH, CODE REGULATIONS WITH REQUIRED PERMITS.
BUT PRIOR TO COMMENCEMENT OF THE WORK, YOU MAY OBTAIN ALL PERMITS FROM THE OFFICE OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES LOCATED AT 1901 ALAMO STREET, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 0 4.
IF IN DOUBT TO THE PROCESS DURING THIS TIME, PLEASE CONTACT YOUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.
ANY OWNER OR HOLD OR LIEN HOLDER DISSATISFIED WITH THE ORDER OF THE BOARD, UH, MAY APPEAL IN CIVIL DISTRICT COURT WITHIN 30 DAYS AFTER THE DATE THAT THE ORDER IS MADE.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ORDERS, PLEASE UH, CONTACT THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICE OR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES STAFF BY, UH, BY THE NUMBER OF 2 1 0 2 0 7 UH, 5 4 2 2.
PLEASE NOTE THAT IT IS UNLAWFUL FOR ANY PERSON, UH, UH, TO SOLICIT OR PEDAL SERVICES REGARDING A PROPERTY UNDER CONSIDERATION BY THIS BOARD DURING THE, UH, DURING THE COURSE OF THIS HEARING, AS PER CITY CODE, UH, 16 DASH 2 36.
YOU GOTTA TAKE VIRTUAL OUT VIRTUAL, THE VIRTUAL MEETING.
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ANYBODY SEND OUT MINUTES? 'CAUSE I DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST, FROM THE LAST, UM, MEETING.DID YOU GET SOME? I, I DIDN'T GET ANY.
I DISCOVERED WHETHER OR NOT I WAS GONNA BE HERE, BUT, UH, IT, UM, SO ANYWAY, UM, MADAM CHAIR? YES.
I VOTE THAT WE, UH, ACCEPT THE MINUTES OF THE LAST BOARD, UM, ON, UH, SEPTEMBER 7TH, 2023 AS IS.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY.
ALL OPPOSED? I WILL ABSTAIN 'CAUSE I DID NOT RECEIVE THEM.
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STAFF REPORTS, POETS, GOOD MORNING BOARD MEMBERS.MY NAME IS JENNY RAMIREZ, CODE ENFORCEMENT MANAGER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
I HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS, UH, TO READ INTO THE RECORD, IF I MAY CONTINUE.
FIRST ITEM IS AN EMERGENCY DEMOLITION STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 4 64 EAST MITCHELL IN COUNCIL.
UM, WAS DEMOLISHED ON SEPTEMBER THE FIRST OF 2023 DUE TO A FIRE THAT OCCURRED ON AUGUST THE 14TH.
PURSUANT TO CHAPTER SIX DASH 1 75, NO FURTHER ACTION IS NEEDED BY THE BOARD AT THIS TIME.
THIS WAS FOR THE MAIN STRUCTURE, I BELIEVE ONLY, AND WE DO HAVE BEFORE AND AFTER PHOTOS.
NEXT STRUCTURE IS AN EMERGENCY DEMOLITION THAT OCCURRED AT EIGHT 11 CREIGHTON AVENUE IN COUNCIL DISTRICT FIVE.
THE DEMOLITION DID OCCUR ON SEPTEMBER THE 12TH DUE TO A FIRE THAT OCCURRED ON SEPTEMBER THE SIXTH OF 2023.
PURSUANT TO CHAPTER SIX DASH 1 75, NO FURTHER EXACT, NO FURTHER ACTION IS NEEDED BY THE BOARD AT THIS TIME.
THERE ARE BEFORE AND AFTER PHOTOS AS WELL.
THAT DOES COMPLETE MY PRESENTATION UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. RAMIREZ? NO.
OUR FIRST CASE TODAY WILL BE, UM, 74 62, UH, TIMBER CREEK DRIVE.
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GOOD MORNING BOARD FOR THE RECORD.MY NAME IS CRYSTAL TOWN, DANGEROUS PREMISE OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO'S DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
THE STRUCTURE BEING PRESENTED TODAY IS LOCATED AT 7 4 6 2 TIMBER CREEK DRIVE, WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR DEMOLITION IN ACCORDANCE WITH CITY CODE ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER 6 1 60.
THIS IS THE SECOND TIME 7 4 6 2 TIMBER CREEK DRIVE IS BEING PRESENTED BEFORE THE BOARD.
PLEASE NOTE ON FEBRUARY 14TH, 2023, A DANGEROUS ASSESSMENT RESPONSE TEAM INSPECTION WAS CONDUCTED.
THE INSPECTION IS A COLLABORATED INSPECTION WITH A VARIETY OF CITY DEPARTMENTS THAT INCLUDED THE SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THE LEO DE DESCRIPTION IS N C B 1 5 3 5 0 BLOCK 0 5 5, LOT 12 LOCATED IN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT SIX.
THE OWNER ON RECORD IS FOR LONG MARGARET W WITH A MAILING ADDRESS OF 7 4 6 2 TIMBER CREEK DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 2 7.
THERE ARE REP, A REPRESENTATIVE FROM N H S D HERE TO SPEAK AND SS A P D OFFICER.
MAURICE, THE OWNER IS NOT PRESENT.
DOES THE BOARD WISH TO CONTINUE? YES, WE DO.
THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION HAS CONFIRMED ON JUNE 28TH, 2023.
THE PROPERTY IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR HISTORIC DESIGNATION.
THE FOLLOWING IS A TIMELINE OF EVENTS REGARDING THE NOTIFICATION PROCESS.
AN ORIGINAL INSPECTION REGARDING 7 4 6 2 TIMBER CREEK DRIVE WAS CONDUCTED ON MAY 12TH, 2020 23 ON SEPTEMBER 20TH, 2023.
THE NOTICE FOR THE B S B HEARING WAS POSTED AT 7 4 6 2 TIMBER CREEK DRIVE ON SEPTEMBER 20TH, 2023.
THE NOTICE FOR THE B S B HEARING WAS MAILED TO MARGARET W FOR LONG, AND THIS CERTIFIED RECEIPT WAS RETURNED UNCLAIMED ON SEPTEMBER 6TH, 2023.
AN ADMINISTRATIVE WARRANT WAS EXECUTED TO OBTAIN PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE STRUCTURE TO PRESENT BEFORE B S B.
NO SCOPE OF WORK OR FINANCIAL PROOF OR LETTER OF CREDIT OR ENGINEERS REPORT HAS BEEN PROVIDED.
NO PERMITS HAVE BEEN OBTAINED.
THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION OF THE STRUCTURE.
UM, ALL WINDOWS AND DOORS HAVE BEEN BOARDED BY THE CITY.
THIS IS THE RIGHT ELEVATION OF THE STRUCTURE.
THE VINYL PLANK SIDING HAS BEEN REMOVED AND A SMALL AREA AND WAS REPLACED WITH CORRUGATED METAL AND PLYWOOD.
THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW OF THAT RIGHT ELEVATION, WHERE THE VINYL PLANK SIDING HAS BEEN REMOVED AND REPLACED WITH METAL AND PLYWOOD.
THIS IS THE LEFT ELEVATION OF THE STRUCTURE, AGAIN, SHOWING THAT THE CITY DID, UH, BOARD UP THE PROPERTY AND CLEAN THE PROPERTY.
THIS IS THE REAR ELEVATION OF THE STRUCTURE.
UM, THE VINYL PLANK SIDING IS DETACHING ON THE LOWER PORTION OF THE RIGHT SIDE, AND THE WINDOWS AND DOORS HAVE BEEN BOARDED UP BY THE CITY.
THIS IS GOING INTO THE REAR ENTRY OF THE STRUCTURE.
THERE IS A LARGE AMOUNT OF TRASH AND DEBRIS THROUGHOUT THE STRUCTURE.
UH, FLOOR COVERING IS MISSING, EXPOSING THE SLAB FOUNDATION, AND THERE ARE HOLES IN THE SHEET ROCK.
HERE'S A BEDROOM AGAIN, FULL OF ITEMS AND TRASH THAT'S BLOCKING ANY EXITS, UH, CAUSING, UM, HAZARD IN CASE OF FIRE OR PANIC.
THIS IS THE GALLEY KITCHEN, AGAIN FILLED WITH AMOUNT OF TRASH AND DEBRIS, UM, CAUSING, UH, BLOCKAGE OF EXITS IN CASE OF FIRE OR PANIC.
HERE, THERE'S MISSING COVER FOR THE LIGHT SWITCH.
THIS IS THE GARAGE, AGAIN FILLED WITH A LAR LARGE AMOUNT OF TRASH AND DEBRIS, UM, CAUSING, UH, OBSTRUCTION OF EXITS IN CASE OF FIRE OR PANIC.
HERE, THERE'S EXPOSED WIRES WITH THE ELECTRIC PANEL.
AGAIN, ANOTHER ROOM, UM, FILLED WITH A LARGE AMOUNT OF DEBRIS BLOCKING THE WINDOWS IN ANY EXITS.
IN CASE OF FIRE OR PANIC, ANOTHER BEDROOM FILLED WITH A LARGE AMOUNT OF TRASH AND DEBRIS AND THE WINDOW IS BOARDED UP.
SO, AND IT'S BLOCKING EXIT IN CASE OF FIRE AND PANIC.
THIS IS THE BATHROOM AREA, AGAIN FILLED WITH TRASH.
AND SOME OF THE FLOOR COVERING, UM, IS DETACHING FROM THE FLOOR AND IS A TRIP HAZARD.
THIS IS THE BACK BEDROOM AGAIN FILLED WITH A LARGE AMOUNT OF TRASH AND DEBRIS, UH, BLOCKING EXITS.
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IN CASE OF PANIC, THE CEILING IS THE CEILING FAN, UH, IS DETACHING FROM THE CEILING.THIS IS THE HALLWAY AREA, JUST AGAIN, A LARGE AMOUNT OF TRASH AND DEBRIS.
AND ANOTHER BACK BEDROOM AGAIN, FILLED WITH A LARGE AMOUNT OF TRASH AND DEBRIS, UM, CAUSING ANY, UH, BLOCKAGE TO EXIT WITH A CASE OF FIRE OR PANIC.
THE STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 7 4 6 2 TIMBER CREEK DRIVE IS IN VIOLATION OF CITY CODE ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER 6, 1 56 SUBSECTIONS 1, 2, 8, 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18, WHICH ANY BUILDING OR STRUCTURE, WHICH HAS ANY OR ALL OF THE CONDITIONS OR DEFECTS HEREIN AFTER DESCRIBED, SHALL BE DEEMED TO BE A DANGEROUS BUILDING AND A HAZARD TO PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, AND WELFARE.
PROVIDED THAT SUCH CONDITIONS OF DEFECTS OF DILAPIDATION, SUBSTANDARD, OR UNFITNESS FOR HUMAN HABITATION POSE A THREAT OR POTENTIAL THREAT TO LIFE, HEALTH, PROPERTY OR HUMAN SAFETY.
AND UNDER CITY CODE ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER SIX DASH ONE 60, UNDER AUTHORITY OF TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 2 1 4 0.001, SUBRU STRUCTURE UPON HEARING A BUILDING OR STRUCTURE SHALL BE ORDERED, DEMOLISHED, VACATED, SECURED, OR REPAIRED, AND OR ITS OCCUPANTS RELOCATED IF FOUND TO BE DILAPIDATED, SUBSTANDARD, OR UNFIT FOR HUMAN HABITATION AND A HAZARD TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE, OR REGARDLESS OF ITS STRUCTURAL CONDITION, BUT HAVING BEEN SUBJECT TO REPEATED CRIMINAL ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS UNOCCUPIED BY ITS OWNERS LEASES OR OTHER INVITEES, THE BUILDING IS UNSECURED FROM UNAUTHORIZED ENTRY TO THE EXTENT THAT IT COULD BE ENTERED OR USED BY VAGRANT OR OTHER INVITED PERSONS AS A PLACE OF HARBRIDGE OR COULD BE ENTERED OR USED BY CHILDREN, STAFF RECOMMENDS DEMOLITION.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION OF 7 4 6 2 TIMBER CREEK DRIVE.
DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR, UH, THIS IS FRED AND THIS IS MADAM CHAIR.
WHEN THIS CAME TO US BEFORE, IT WAS A P P M C S, RIGHT? CORRECT.
UM, AND THERE WERE PEOPLE LIVING IN IT AND IT, WAS THERE ANY ABATEMENTS DONE PRIOR TO THE ORDER OF REMOVAL OF THE PERSONS? SO THE, UH, ONLY ABATEMENT THAT HAS BEEN CONDUCTED WAS ON JUNE 23RD, 2023 WITH A TOTAL AMOUNT OF $1,846.
AND THAT'S TO BOARD THIS UP, CORRECT? YES.
AND TO REMOVE ALL TRASH ON THE EXTERIOR.
THE EXTERIOR, BUT ALL OCCUPANTS HAVE VACATED THE PROPERTY.
NOBODY IS RESIDING AT THE LOCATION AS OF MY LAST INSPECTION AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER.
THE OWNERS STILL HAVEN'T COMPLIED.
ACCORDING TO THE NEIGHBORS, THE OWNER IS DECEASED.
SO WHO WERE THE VAGRANTS? JUST, JUST NTS PEOPLE THAT JUST DECIDED TO HOME ARE SO YEAH, OCCUPANTS.
UM, THEY WERE EITHER VAGRANTS OR INDIVIDUALS WHO JUST, UH, I'M ASSUMING HE NEEDED A PLACE TO STAY.
SO, UM, I'M SORRY, I CAN'T READ THIS NAME.
HERE I SEE SS A P D, UM, MAURICE, IS IT MAURICE? THAT'S CORRECT.
UH, JUST FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS OFFICER MAURICE.
I WORK, UH, THE WEST SAFE UNIT AND I AM THE DARK COORDINATOR FOR THE, UH, WEST SERVICE AREA.
UH, LEMME JUST START OFF WITH THE, THE QUESTION YOU HAD FOR CODE.
UM, WE'VE, THAT'S THE, ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SIDE, WE'VE NEVER HAD, UM, I GUESS CONTACT WITH THE ACTUAL OWNER THAT'S ON FILE.
UM, IT IS A RELATIVE OF HERS THAT IS STAYING, UM, AT THIS LOCATION.
UM, HE'S BEEN, UH, KIND OF THE PROBLEM FOR US, BUT I, I'LL GET INTO THAT.
UM, THIS PROPERTY CAME INTO OUR ATTENTION OR CAME, CAME TO US, UH, IN REGARDS TO ALL THE COMPLAINTS WE'RE RECEIVING FROM THE COMMUNITY.
UH, MAINLY THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE SURROUNDING THIS HOUSE.
UM, THERE'S A LOT OF FOOT TRAFFIC THAT COMES FROM THIS HOUSE.
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START BY, THIS ADDRESS IS LESS THAN HALF A MILE AWAY FROM, UH, MEADOW VILLAGE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, WHICH IS WALKING DISTANCE.IT'S, UH, THE SCHOOL IS TO THE SOUTHEAST OF THIS LOCATION.
UH, SO WE DID A TWO YEAR HISTORY ON THIS PROPERTY.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE CALLS FOR SERVICE, THERE WAS 13 DISTURBANCE CALLS, SIX, ASSAULT AND PROGRESS CALLS TO INCLUDE ASSAULTS.
TWO, SHOOTING IN PROGRESS CALLS WITH HITS SHELL CASINGS FOUND TWO BURGLARY IN PROGRESS IS CALLED TWO RECOVERED STOLEN VEHICLES.
I'M SORRY, TWO RECOVERED STOLEN PROPERTY CALLS, ONE ACCIDENT, TWO OVERDOSE IN PROGRESSES FROM NARCOTICS.
UH, TWO HOMELESS RELATED CALLS, 12 SUSPICIOUS PERSONS IN VEHICLES CALLS.
TWO WANTED PERSON CALLS, UH, MULTIPLE 9 1 1 HANGUPS, FOUR SHOTS FIRED CALLS, ONE BURGLARY AND ONE FIGHT.
UH, THE CRIMINAL ELEMENT IS DEFINITELY AT THIS HOUSE.
UM, ALSO TO, THIS HOUSE IS VERY CLOSE TO A COMMON INTERSECTION, UH, FOUR 10 AND MARBACH, THAT INTERSECTION THERE, UM, THE HOMELESS IS, IS VERY HEAVY AT THAT INTERSECTION.
WHAT WE HAVE SEEN, THE PEOPLE THAT WE ARREST OR OR MAKE CONTACT AT THAT INTERSECTION ALWAYS END UP AT THIS HOUSE FOR WHATEVER REASON.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BECAUSE THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE STAYING AT THIS PLACE WHO ARE ALLOWING THESE PEOPLE IN THERE, UM, TRADING FOR NARCOTICS, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT LIKE I SAID, WE DID CONDUCT A DART WARRANT AT THIS LOCATION.
UH, ON THAT DART WARRANT, WE ACTUALLY DID MAKE AN ARREST FOR, UH, ONE FELONY WARRANT AND, UH, UM, 0.4 GRAMS OF METH.
WE FOUND MULTIPLE PEOPLE INSIDE.
I THINK IT WAS ALMOST LIKE 10 PEOPLE TO 12 PEOPLE THAT WERE JUST, UM, YOU COULD TELL THAT JUST DIDN'T BELONG THERE.
UH, DUE TO THE, UH, CRIMINAL ELEMENT, UM, STILL, UH, REVOLVING.
AFTER WE CONDUCTED THE DART, WE DID A REINSPECTION, UH, ON THAT REINSPECTION.
WE, UH, ONCE AGAIN MADE AN ARREST FOR A, UH, MISDEMEANOR WARRANT.
AGAIN, THAT DIDN'T BELONG THERE.
WE DID A SECOND, UH, INSPECTION REINSPECTION AFTER THAT.
UH, ONCE AGAIN, WE MADE AN ARREST FOR A FELONY WARRANT.
UH, WE WENT BACK FOR A THIRD TIME IN THE FINAL TIME, WHICH WAS KIND OF THE FINAL STRAW FOR US.
UM, THIS THIRD TIME WE WENT, WE ACTUALLY FOUND 21.4 GRAMS OF METH.
AND JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, THAT'S LIKE THE SIZE OF AN APPLE ALMOST.
UM, WHEN SOMEONE HAS THAT AMOUNT OF NARCOTICS ON THEM, THAT'S NOT FOR PERSONAL USE, THAT, THAT'S NOW WE'RE TALKING AND DISTRIBUTING.
UM, AND ALSO WE FOUND TWO GUNS THAT WE COLLECTED THAT TIME.
ONE FELONY WARRANT, WE MADE AN ARREST FOR, AND TWO MISDEMEANOR WARRANTS, OBVIOUSLY.
AND ALONG WITH THE, WITH THE DRUGS, UM, I KNOW WE MENTIONED THAT WE BOARDED THIS PROPERTY UP.
UM, YOU KNOW, MR. FURLONG IS THE ONE THAT'S STAYING THERE.
UH, WITH THE HEAT THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING RECENTLY.
UM, I COULD, WE'VE PROBABLY BEEN THERE JUST, JUST TO DO A DRIVE BY MULTIPLE TIMES.
UM, EVERY TIME HE'S BEEN INSIDE THIS HOUSE AND HE'S JUST, IT'S SO HOT IN THAT STRUCTURE, RIGHT? IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE FOR THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE CHOOSING TO GO IN THERE.
THERE'S NO POWER, OBVIOUSLY EVERYTHING'S BOARDED UP, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO BREEZE.
AND THESE, HOW THEY'RE EVEN ABLE TO TAKE THE HEAT INSIDE THE STRUCTURE IS, IS CONCERNING.
BUT, UM, WE'VE ALSO FOUND, UH, ONE OF THE INSPECTIONS WE FOUND TWO, I THINK THERE WAS FOR SURE.
THERE'S BEEN TWO MOTORCYCLES IN THE BACK THAT WERE STRIPPED.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE RUN THE VIN NUMBERS ON 'EM.
UM, BUT ONE OF 'EM WAS FROM LIKE CORPUS CHRISTI.
SOMETIMES PEOPLE CHOOSE NOT TO ENTER THEIR, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S, IF IF IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S WELL KEPT UP, THEY'RE LIKE, AH, IT IS WHAT IT IS, AND THEY WON'T, UH, ENTER IT AS STOLEN.
BUT THERE WERE STRIPED MOTORCYCLES IN THE BACK AS WELL.
UM, LIKE I SAID, THE MAIN THING IS, IS, UM, THE NEIGHBORS HERE ARE, ARE FED UP WITH THIS, UM, TO THE, UH, EAST OF THE LOCATION.
UH, THAT NEIGHBOR THERE HAS SOME SMALL KIDS AND, UM, MAN, THEY'RE JUST, UH, THEY'RE GIVING US COMPLAINTS LIKE, HEY, HOW CAN WE SLEEP AT NIGHT WHEN THESE PEOPLE ARE COMING IN AND OUT OF THE WINDOWS OR JUST COMING IN THE BACKYARD? UM, LIKE I SAID, THE SHOTS FIRED TOO.
UH, THOSE CALLS, WE'VE, UH, THERE'S BEEN WITNESSES WHERE PEOPLE ARE SEEING THESE PEOPLE POP OFF ROUNDS IN THE FRONT DRIVEWAY, AND THEN THEY'LL GO INSIDE, POLICE MAKE THE LOCATION.
AND OBVIOUSLY THAT'S BEFORE WE BOARDED IT UP, BUT POLICE WOULD MAKE THE LOCATION AND NO ONE WOULD OBVIOUSLY COME TO THE DOOR.
BUT, UH, THE MAIN THING, THE OTHER THING IS, IS LIKE I SAID, THE HOMELESS, FOR WHATEVER REASON, ARE GOING TO THIS HOUSE.
AND LIKE I SAID, IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY BECAUSE OF THE NARCOTICS REASON.
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AND THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY WHAT I HAVE QUESTIONS.UH, SINCE THE BOARD MADE THE RULING TO REASSESS THE PROPERTY AT 4 13 20 23, THE NOTES GO IN NOW AT 5 12 20 23 FROM FOUR 13, THEY WERE ORDERED, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, WE HAD AN ORDER OF VACATE COUNSEL.
THIS ONE IS, IS KIND OF TO YOU, IF WE PUT IN PLACE AN ORDER TO VACATE ON A REASSESSMENT, WHICH I DO BELIEVE WE DID, BECAUSE THE NOTES AREN'T FROM, WE DON'T HAVE THE NOTES FROM THE LAST IN FRONT OF US ON THE LAST CASE DEALING WITH THIS.
IF WE PUT A VACATE ORDER ON THE PROPERTY, THEY'RE NOT TO RETURN.
AND WE DON'T HAVE THIS IN OUR NOTES LIKE WE NORMALLY DO, UH, THE, THE PREVIOUS ORDER.
I BELIEVE IT'S UP ON THE SCREEN NOW.
UH, I WANNA SAY, AND I'M, JUDY CAN TELL ME IF I'M WRONG, I WANNA SAY THE ORDER WAS TO VACATE, DISCONNECT AND SECURE UNTIL THE DETERMINATION OF THE STATUS, WELL, UNTIL THE, UNTIL THE RE THE REPAIRS, UH, WERE MADE TO THE SATISFACTION OF THE CODE OFFICER.
THAT I BELIEVE THAT'S, I MIGHT, OR AT THAT, AT THAT TIME, WE WERE ORDERED A RE UH, A REASSESSMENT OF THE PROPERTY.
SO THEY HAD TO VACATE UNTIL THE DETERMINATION OF THE REASSESSMENT.
NOW, IF THE PERSON CONTINUOUSLY COME BACK, HAVE YOU ARRESTED THE INDIVIDUAL FOR TRESPASSING? SO I, I GUESS, UM, THERE'S BEEN QUESTIONS, UH, COMING UP ON THE DEPARTMENT SIDE ON IF WE ACTUALLY HAVE AUTHORITY TO ARREST, UH, MR. FURLONG WHO HAS BEEN RESIDING THERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK EVEN HIS ADDRESS ON HIS DRIVER LICENSE IS THAT ADDRESS.
DO WE HAVE AUTHORITY TO ARREST YOU? UH, THAT'S A COURT ORDER.
SO ANYBODY ORDERED TO VACATE? AM I CORRECT, COUNSEL? THAT WOULD BE A COURT ORDER.
SO I, I, I WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR.
THE, THE DOCUMENT THAT, THAT WE JUST HAD UP AND, AND I WILL, UM, DEFER TO JUDY CRUM IN REGARDS TO, SHE PROBABLY HAS THE ORDERS IN FRONT OF US.
I WANNA SAY IT WAS A RESET TO EVALUATE IT AS A DP.
UM, SO I COULD HAVE SWORN AT ONE POINT IN TIME THERE WAS, IS THIS THE SECOND ORDER FOR THIS PROPERTY OR JUST THE VERY FIRST ONE THAT RECENT.
OKAY, SO THE, I I BELIEVE THERE WAS, THERE WAS ONE YOUR, THE INITIAL ONE WAS, UM, VACATE SECURE, UM, AND, UH, MAKE THE, MAKE, MAKE THE REPAIRS AND, AND, AND STAY OFF THE PROPERTY.
IT THEN CAME BACK FOR A RESET.
SO ONCE YOU CREATED THAT, RESET THE ORDERS TO, UM, REM UM, TO VACATE THE PROPERTY, IF THEY CAME BACK ONTO THE PROPERTY, UM, YOU HAVE NEW ORDERS THAT SUPERSEDE THE PREVIOUS ORDERS THAT YOU GAVE.
OKAY, BECAUSE I'M READING THE NOTES AND THAT THING, THE FAR END OF THE NOTES ON FIVE 12, IT SAYS ALSO HAVE THE PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY VACATED AND REMAIN VACATED IN THE NOTES.
SO WHEN DID THE SECOND ORDER SUPERSEDE? WAS IT FIVE 12 OR AFTER FIVE 12? DID THE SECOND ORDER OVERRIDES THE FIRST COURT ORDER? THE, THE SECOND ORDER WAS, WELL, ONE, IT WAS OVERRIDDEN WHEN YOU GUYS GAVE IT, IT BECAME FORCEFUL, UM, OR, OR FORCIBLE WHEN THE, THE APPEAL PROCESS, UM, EXPIRED.
SO PROBABLY 30 DAYS AFTER APRIL 13TH, APPROXIMATELY.
SO APRIL, I, I APOLOGIZE, THAT'S A 23, NOT A 13.
SO YEAH, AFTER THE, THE, THE, LOOKS LIKE THE 23RD DAY OF APRIL, 30 DAYS AFTER THE 23RD DAY OF APRIL.
SO THAT'S THE THIRD MONTH, RIGHT? NO, APRIL.
SO FOUR 13 IS WHEN ALL OF THIS WAS ORDERED, SO, RIGHT.
MAYBE I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE QUESTION IS.
WELL, IT SAYS IN HERE ON THE FIVE 12 THAT THERE, THAT THERE WAS A ALSO HAVE THE PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY VACATED AND REMAIN VACATED.
BUT YOU'RE SAYING THE SECOND COURT ORDER IS, THE SECOND COURT ORDER DID NOT ORDER FOR THOSE THINGS TO BE DONE.
BUT THE EXPIRATION OF THE VERY FIRST QUARTER, WHICH WAS IN THE 30 DAYS, ALLOWED DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TO ACT ON THE ORDER THAT YOU GAVE.
SO THEY, AND AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING BECAUSE OF, UH, AND THEN THE PROPERTY WAS BROUGHT BACK TO YOU AS A,
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AS A DP.SO THEY DIDN'T, AND WHAT I'M ASKING IS, 'CAUSE IN THE NOTES IT SAYS IT WAS VACATED.
IF THIS WAS ALREADY DONE, THEN THE NOTES ACTUALLY THEN IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN EXTENDED TO THE SECOND COURT ORDER.
THAT'S, I, I, I, I, I, I'LL, I'LL BE, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS, IS RELEVANT AS TO WHETHER THIS PROPERTY, UH, IS, IS A DANGEROUS STRUCTURE AND IS A 6 1 60.
BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE, WE'RE CLEAR.
ONCE A BOARD ORDER IS GIVEN, THERE'S 30 DAYS TO APPEAL THAT DECISION.
SO PRIOR TO, SO ONCE THE, THE, THE 30 DAYS, UM, EXPIRED, WHICH WOULD BE 30 DAYS AFTER THE DATE IT WAS SIGNED OR, AND OR MAILED OUT, AND I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURE JUDY CAN HELP ME ON THAT DAY.
SO FROM THE DAY IT WAS MAILED OUT AND FOR 30 DAYS, THEIR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES IS ABLE TO ACT ON THAT PROPERTY.
'CAUSE THERE'S A DISCONNECT IN THE, IN THE FIRST ORDER AND THE NOTES HERE, THE NOTES ARE STILL BELIEVING.
I I DON'T, YEAH, I DON'T, JUST TO BE FAIR, I'M NOT, I'M NOT LOOKING AT WHAT NECESSARILY YEAH, THE NOTES, THE NOTES ARE STILL HAVE IT AS A VACATE ON THE NOTES AS OF FIVE 12 IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
SO THE COURT ORDER ACTUALLY VACATE PART IS NO LONGER VALID.
SO, BUT IF IT'S BOARDED UP AND AS IT WAS, AND THE OFFICERS ARE GOING THERE AND FINDING PEOPLE STILL THERE, THE ASSUMPTION HERE STILL SAYS THAT THERE'S A VACATE ORDER IN PLACE.
THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING WAS THE GUY ARRESTED? BUT IF THE COURT ORDER RAN OUT, THERE'S A DISCONNECT IN THEIR THE THE TESTIMONY.
THE TESTIMONY OR THE, THE ASSESSMENT, THE INFORMATION THEY'RE GETTING.
BUT I, I, I GUESS THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING 'CAUSE IT'S STILL IN HERE AS A VACATE, BUT OVER HERE IT'S NOT ON THE COURT ORDER.
WHICH I GUESS WOULD PROBABLY JUSTIFY WHY, UH, OFFICER, UH, THE OFFICERS STATING WE WEREN'T QUITE SURE AS TO WHETHER WE NEEDED TO, AND THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION, WAS HE ARRESTED? AND HE SAYS, WELL, THERE'S A DISC.
AND I I I, I CAN TELL YOU SS A P D DOES, EVEN IF THEY HAVE, UH, THE VACATE AND OR THE, UM, UM, NO TRESPASS, THEY, THEY DO HAVE THE, UH, DISCRETION AS TO DETERMINE HOW TO HANDLE THAT CASE, WHETHER THOSE PERSONS ARE ARRESTED OR NOT, USUALLY.
AND SOMETIMES THEY'RE NOT GOING TO ARREST BECAUSE IT'S FUTILE AS TO WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THEY ARREST 'EM, DO ALL A BUNCH OF PAPERWORK AND GET RELEASED.
UM, I I HOPE I'VE CLARIFIED, BUT I I, WELL, IT DOES BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, I'M GOING BY WHAT THE NOTES SAY HERE.
'CAUSE THIS COURT ORDER'S NOT EVEN IN THE NOTES, AND MOST OF OUR TIME WE GET THESE RESETS, THE COURT ORDERS ARE IN THE NOTES.
I I, I, THAT MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE FACT, AND THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THESE QUESTIONS AGAIN TO REFRESH BECAUSE WE ONLY PICK UP FROM FIVE 12 NOW.
TO, TO BE FAIR, I, I THINK IT MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT WE HAD, UM, OUR, OUR, OUR CODE OFFICERS CHANGE.
UM, ONE GOT PROMOTED, ANOTHER ONE GOT PUT IN THAT SPOT.
SO, UM, THERE WAS A, A DISADVANTAGE FOR, UH, MS. TOWNSEND MAKING SURE.
I'M, I'M JUST TRYING TO FILL THE BLANKS.
WHAT WE HAD BEFORE TO, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE REFERENCE, WE ONLY HAVE FIVE 12 FORWARD NOW.
SO THE OTHER COURT ORDER WE COULDN'T SEE, AND IT STATES IN HERE THAT THERE IS THIS IN PLACE.
SO THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION, ARE YOU, ARE, ARE PATROL STILL BEING MADE AROUND THAT AREA? NO.
YEAH, WE, UH, LIKE I SAID, DUE TO US STILL RECEIVING MO UH, COMPLAINTS FROM THE COMMUNITY, UM, UH, WE STILL LIKE TO SHOW PRESENCE THERE.
UM, IF, AND LIKE I SAID, IF THAT'S EITHER JUST EVEN WALK THROUGH THE BACKYARD, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW THEY'RE SORT OF GAINING ENTRY.
UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL PULL THE, THE PLYWOOD OFF.
YOU KNOW, WE SECURE THESE STRUCTURES.
AND WE ALL KNOW THAT, UM, IT DOESN'T MAKE IT BULLETPROOF.
UH, ANYONE CAN TAKE A DRILL OVER THERE OR A CROWBAR AND PULL THE PLYWOOD OFF.
AND LIKE I SAID, MR. FURLONG HERE, HE'S PRETTY MUCH SET TO SAYING, HEY, THIS IS MY HOUSE.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I, I DON'T HAVE NOWHERE ELSE TO GO.
WELL, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE IN THIS SITUATION NOW, SO, UM, AND I, I KNOW I'VE ASKED THIS BEFORE AND I ASK IT OF EVERY POLICE OFFICER THAT COMES ON THE DARK, ARE THESE THE SAME PEOPLE YOU SEE AT OTHER STRUCTURES OR AT OTHER INTERSECTIONS THAT ONCE IT'S HOT HERE, THEY MOVE TO THIS HOUSE AS A SAFE HOUSE? SO, UM, THE OTHER DARTS THAT WE'VE CONDUCTED, AT LEAST AT WEST, UM, THEY'RE LITTLE WAYS FROM THIS STRUCTURE.
WE ACTUALLY ARE, UM, THERE'S ANOTHER PROPERTY ACTUALLY.
UH, IT'S A COUPLE BLOCKS DOWN ON TIMBER CREEK
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THAT WE TRIED TO DART AND, UH, WE WEREN'T SUCCESSFUL THERE.BUT, UH, UH, NO, THE ONLY, THE ONLY TIME I SEE THESE PEOPLE AT THIS LOCATION IS ON THE STREETS.
YOU KNOW, WHERE THE HOMELESS HANG OUT, THAT, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE SEEING THESE INDIVIDUALS.
LET ME, MAY I, MAY I INJECT SOMETHING HERE? THIS IS THE REASON WHY WE ALWAYS ASK FOR HISTORY ON A PROPERTY.
THIS IS ONE REASON WHY WE HAVE TO HAVE HISTORY FOR THE CODE OFFICERS TO KNOW, FOR US TO KNOW.
BUT THE CODE OFFICERS NEED TO PUT THE HISTORY OF PROPERTIES IN, IN THE, UH, ON THE, THEIR, THEIR REPORTS SO THAT WE KNOW, BECAUSE WE ONLY KNOW FROM FIVE FORWARD, NOT BACK.
AND THE CODE OFFICERS, UH, OR EVEN THE DART OFFICERS, THEY DON'T KNOW, THEY CAN'T STAND OVER HERE AND GIVE US THE, THE HISTORY OF THE PROPERTY.
BUT THE CODE OFFICERS CAN, SO PLEASE, PLEASE GIVE US THE HISTORY THAT WE NEED TO, UM, YOU KNOW, TO DETERMINE THESE CASES.
BECAUSE HISTORY DOESN'T ONLY TELL YOU ABOUT THE PAST, IT TELLS YOU ABOUT NOW, AND IT TELLS YOU ABOUT THE FUTURE.
IT TELLS YOU WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE YOU HAVE.
AND SO THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY WE NEED THE HISTORY OF A PROPERTY.
DO WE HAVE A, DO WE HAVE A MOTION OR IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT, UH, TO THE OFFICER? LAST COMMENT.
WE, WE, THERE IS ANOTHER SPEAKER ASSIGNED.
I CAN'T READ YOUR NAME EITHER.
I'M THE SENIOR MANAGEMENT ANALYST FOR NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
IN MY CAPACITY, I OVERSEE THE RELOCATION ASSISTANCE PROGRAM AND I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE SERVICES THAT WAS PROVIDED.
UM, THE RELOCATION ASSISTANCE, UH, PROGRAM PROVIDES HOUSING STABILITY SERVICES.
UM, ON THIS DAY WE HAD A STAFF MEMBER VISIT THIS LOCATION.
UM, RELOCATION SERVICE WAS PROVIDED TO FOUR INDIVIDUALS, BUT THE SERVICE WAS REFUSED.
WE DID PROVIDE, UM, HOMELESS, UM, INFORMATION, UM, HOMELESS SHELTER INFORMATION, AND WE ALSO PROVIDED INFORMATION REGARDING LEGAL SERVICES.
AND WITHIN 24 HOURS WE DID FOLLOW UP WITH THESE FOUR INDIVIDUALS.
THERE WAS NO RESPONSE AND THERE WAS NO ADDITIONAL SERVICES OR INFORMATION, UH, REQUESTED.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR HOW DO YOU PRONOUNCE YOUR LAST NAME? AL.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HER, PLEASE? YEAH.
WE SPOKE TO FOUR INDIVIDUALS ON THAT DAY AND WE OFFERED A RELOCATION SERVICE, UM, TO HELP THE FAMILIES, UH, RELOCATE FROM THAT LOCATION TO ANOTHER LOCATION.
BUT WE DID PROVIDE, UM, HOMELESS SHELTER INFORMATION, EVEN FOR HOPE GUADALUPE CENTER.
AND WE PROVIDED INFORMATION REGARDING, UM, LEGAL SERVICES RELATED TO HOUSING.
AND, UH, WE FOLLOWED UP, WE FOLLOWED UP WITH THEM 24 HOURS.
THERE WAS NO RESPONSE AND NO OTHER, UH, SERVICES WAS REQUESTED.
AND I'M GONNA ASK YOU SOMETHING, AND THIS IS BROAD.
HAVE MOST OF THE TIME YOU GO OUT TO STUFF LIKE THIS HERE, DO YOU GET A LOT OF, UH, OF, HOW DO I PUT IT? DOES A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT THE SERVICES OR ARE THEY JUST KIND OF LIKE, UM, IN MOST TIMES THEY WOULD RE UH, REFUSE THE SERVICE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU SO MUCH.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION? DO WE HAVE A MOTION? YOU READY? I'M READY.
I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 7 4 6 2 TIMBER CREEK DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO 7 8 2 2 7 IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE, WHICH IS NOT FEASIBLE TO BE REPAIRED AT THIS TIME, AND IS IN VIOLATION OF CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION 1 5 6, SPECIFICALLY SECTIONS 1, 2, 8, 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18.
I MOVE THAT THE, UH, PROPERTY BE DEMOLISHED WITHIN 30 DAYS FROM THE ISSUANCE OF THIS ORDER AND THAT THE, UM, AND THAT WE SECURE IT FREE OF TRASH AND DEBRIS.
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AND MAKE DAVID GAR IS THE SECOND.WE HAVE A 30 DAY DEMO ORDER FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT, UM, 74 62 TIMBER CREEK DRIVE, AND UNDER SECTIONS, UH, SUBSECTIONS 1, 2, 8, 11, 12, 17, AND 18.
AND TO DISCONNECT ALL UTILITIES AND TO SECURE THE PROPERTY.
UM, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS? UH, ANY DISCUSSION? I'M SORRY.
COULD WE GET A ROLL CALL PLEASE? ROBERT TAPIA? AYE.
MOTION PASSES WITH THE VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UM, MRS. UH, WE HAVE A QUESTION, UH, FOR STAFF AND FOR, UH, MS. I, I'M SORRY, IS IT MAL? MAL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? WE HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, OUR GENERAL, UM, BOARD MEETING IN WHAT, NOVEMBER? YEAH, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER.
IS IN THE BOARD MEETING'S STILL IN NOVEMBER, RIGHT? THE FULL BOARD? THE FULL BOARD MEETING? YES, SIR.
YES, THAT'S, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AS A GUEST SPEAKER TO GIVE US THE INS AND OUTS OF, UM, THE HOUSING AND, AND WHAT IT DOES AND WHAT IT OFFERS MINISTRY.
SO WE'LL HAVE A BETTER, SO WE'LL HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF IT.
MS. BROWN, THIS IS, UH, JENNY RAMIREZ WITH D S D.
I WANNA SAY WE'RE A LITTLE BIT AHEAD OF YOU AND WE HAVE BEGUN THIS DISCUSSION WITHIN H SS D AND WE HAVE STARTED, YOU'LL, YOU'LL START SEEING REPRESENTATIVES FROM N H S D WITH PARTICULAR FOR OCCUPIED STRUCTURES WHERE THERE IS SOME TYPE OF RECOMMENDATION.
UM, IN THE MEANTIME, WE DIDN'T WANNA WAIT TILL THE FULL BOARD AND WE'VE STARTED INVITING THEM, UH, NOW.
UM, BUT DEFINITELY WE WERE GONNA SET, UH, TIME ASIDE ON THE AGENDA DURING THE FULL BOARD TO LET THEM ROLL OUT WHAT THEY DO HAVE AVAILABLE AND WHAT ASSISTANCE IS BEING OFFERED IN THE FIELD.
WE WERE JUST KEEPING IT TODAY TO SPECIFICALLY THE CASE ON HAND.
I, I, UH, I ASK THAT BECAUSE IT'S JUST LIKE WHEN I ASK ABOUT C P S TO, TO BE ON THE MEETING AS WELL, TO COME IN AND, AND PROVIDE A BROADER PICTURE BECAUSE IT HELPS US UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS THAT THESE PEOPLE HAVE OFFERED.
LIKE WHEN YOU GUYS SIT BEHIND THE SCENE BACK THERE, THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF LEVEL STUFF THAT GOES BACK BEFORE IT HITS HERE.
WELL, I THINK WE SHOULD BE EDUCATED ON THE STEPS, NOT NECESSARILY THE WEEDS, BUT HOW YOU DO YOUR THING BACK THERE BEFORE IT HITS THE BOARD HERE.
AND I THINK LIKE C P S, WHAT'S THE PROCESS THEY'RE DOING OVER HERE IN THE CONNECTIONS? NOT NECESSARILY TELLING THEM WHAT, BUT WE JUST NEED THAT INPUT.
SO WE UNDERSTAND THESE PEOPLE JUST LIKE WHEN I ASK HER, BUT THE PROCESS WOULD HELP US UNDERSTAND A LITTLE MORE OF WHAT THE DECISIONS THAT WE DO MAKE IS LIKE, OKAY, THEY WERE OFFERED IT AND THEY REFUSED IT, BUT NOW THEY WANT THEIR HOUSE SAVED TO US.
WE DON'T NEED TO KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING TO IT.
JUST, HEY, YEAH, THIS IS WHAT OUR DEAL IS AND THIS IS OUR GOAL.
UH, AND IT HELPS US MAKE A BETTER DECISION.
SO WE'RE GONNA START DOING THAT A LITTLE MORE OFTEN NOW, GETTING MORE BOARDS OR OTHER PIECES OF GOVERNMENT IN WHICH HELPS OUR DECISION MAKING BECAUSE THIS BOARD, I THINK IS ONE OF THE MOST CRUCIAL BOARDS IN SAN ANTONIO.
WE'RE MAKING DECISIONS ON IF YOUR PROPERTY STANDS UP OR FALLS DOWN, BASED OFF WHAT WE HAVE HERE AND WITH ALL THE INPUT WE GET, IT'S GONNA HELP US BE BETTER BOARD.
AND WE, I APPRECIATE Y'ALL COMING IN AND, AND GIVING US THAT.
IN THE REST OF THE BOARD, I DO WANNA MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND LIKE, UM, N H SS D AND DEVELOPMENT SER N H SS D IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE DART UNIT, UH, IN ADDITION TO D H SS.
SO, UH, THE SERVICES THAT THEY OFFER AND OR THE, THE INFORMATION THAT THEY CAN PROVIDE, UM, IS AVAILABLE AND, AND PROVIDED TO ANY INDIVIDUAL THAT THEY COME IN CONTACT AT WHEN WE, UH, ARE DOING A, A DART UM, INSPECTION.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT YES, WE'LL, UH, DEFINITELY HAVE THEM COME IN AND, AND, AND PROVIDE SOME MORE INFORMATION.
BUT I DO WANNA MAKE SURE THIS BOARD UNDERSTANDS THAT EVERY TIME THAT A DART PROPERTY IS BROUGHT HERE, YOU CAN SAFELY ASSUME THAT, DEVELOP THAT, UM, N H S D AND D H SS WERE ACTIVE AND PRESENT AT THOSE INSPECTIONS.
WELL, THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW, BUT IT CERTAINLY IS MUCH BETTER TO SEE AND HEAR SOMEONE STANDING HERE IN FRONT OF US
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THAT KNOWS, UH, YOU KNOW, THE RULES FOR THE HOUSING AND, AND THE SERVICES THAT YOU ALL OFFER.THANK YOU MR. AND, AND THE DART ALSO ENVELOPS A LOT OF OTHER ORGANIZATIONS TOO, AND WE KNOW THAT, BUT WE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT, THE, THE INFORMATION ON THEIR OPERATIONS BECAUSE DART MAKES A DECISION BASED OFF ALL OF THEIR INPUT, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
AND, AND, UH, I, I KNOW WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE SIDETRACKED TO DART WILL ALSO DAL DART WILL ALSO FROM JUDY, JUDY JUST ACKNOWLEDGED TO ME AND, AND CONFIRMED IT.
DART WILL ALSO BE, UM, UH, BE A PRESENTATION FOR THE FULL BOARD, UH, IN NOVEMBER ALSO.
AND I, AND I, AND I THINK THAT'S GONNA HELP US BETTER TO UNDERSTAND ALL OF THOSE PIECES THAT MAKE TO HELP YOU GUYS MAKE A DECISION.
'CAUSE AS WE HEAR IS DART AND WE KNOW PIECES, BUT WE DON'T KNOW THE FULL.
AND IF ALL OF THESE DEPARTMENTS ARE EXPLAINED TO US DURING THE OPERATION, WE KNOW DART COMES IN AND THIS IS A BIGGER PICTURE THAN WHAT WE'RE SEEING ON THIS PAPER AND IT HELPS US MAKE A BETTER DECISION.
AND THAT'S ALL WE'RE ASKING AND WE APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU MR. ANDERS, AND THANK YOU JENNY, AND THANK YOU.
OKAY, LET'S MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT CASE.
IT'S, UH, 1 34 OKLAHOMA STREET.
GOOD BOARDY BOARD MEMBERS FOR THE RECORD.
MY NAME IS JOHN GARZA, DANGEROUS PERMIT OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
THE STRUCTURE BEING PRESENTED TODAY IS LOCATED AT 1 34 OKLAHOMA, WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR DEMOLITION IN ACCORDANCE WITH CITY ARTICLE CODE ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER SIX.
THIS CASE IS THE FIRST TIME BEING HEARD BEFORE THIS BOARD.
THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION IS N C B 8 9 9 4 BLOCK THREE, LOT NINE AND 10, LOCATED IN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT SIX.
THE OWNER ON RECORD IS THE ESTATE OF ENC GUTIERREZ AND JUAN G. GUTIERREZ WITH A MAILING ADDRESS OF 1 34 OKLAHOMA.
ALL NOTICES OF HEARINGS WERE PROPERTY ISSUED AS REQUIRED.
NO OWNERS ARE PRISON ON BEHALF OF THIS LOCATION.
DOES THE BOARD WISH TO PROCEED? WE DO, YES.
NO PHONE NUMBERS WERE FOUND, NOR HAVE I SPOKEN WITH THE OWNERS.
THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATIONS HAS CONFIRMED THAT ON AUGUST 25TH, 2023, THE PROPERTY IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR HISTORIC DESIGNATION.
THE FOLLOWING IS A TIMELINE OF EVENTS REGARDING THE NOTIFICATION PROCESS.
THE FIRST INSPECTION REGARDING 1 3 4 OKLAHOMA WAS CONDUCTED ON NOVEMBER 14TH, 2023.
ORIGINAL NOTICE WAS MAILED ON JUNE 5TH, AND THE CERTIFIED RECEIPT WAS RETURNED UNCLAIMED ON JUNE 6TH, 2023 ON SEPTEMBER 21ST, 2023.
THE NOTICE FOR B S B HEARING WAS POSTED AT 1 3 4 OKLAHOMA ON SEPTEMBER 20TH, 2023.
THE NOTICE FOR THE NOTICE FOR B S B HEARING WAS MAILED TO OWNER AND CERTIFIED RECEIPT WAS RETURNED ON SEPTEMBER 27TH, 2023.
NO SCOPE OF WORK, FINANCIAL PROOF OR LETTER OF CREDIT OR ENGINEER'S REPORT HAS BEEN PROVIDED AS OF 10,423.
THERE ARE NO PERMITS ON FILE FOR 1 34 OKLAHOMA.
THE LAST TIME THIS PROPERTY WAS CLEAN AND SECURED BY THE CITY WAS ON JANUARY 27TH, 2023.
THE TOTAL COST OF THE ABATEMENT WAS 2,399.
THE PHOTOS THAT ARE BEING PROVIDED TODAY WERE TAKEN ON SEPTEMBER 6TH, 2023.
THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION OF 1 34 OKLAHOMA.
THE FRONT, THE FRONT AREA IS IN NEED OF WEATHERPROOFING.
UH, THE BOARDS AROUND THE WINDOWS ARE MISSING AND THE SKIRTING AROUND THE STRUCTURE IS DETERIORATED OR MISSING.
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ON THE LEFT SIDE, THIS IS A ALSO A FRONT, UM, ELEVATION.THE STRUCTURE IS SINKING IN ON THE LEFT SIDE THERE.
HERE WE HAVE THE STRUCTURE IN NEED OF WEATHERPROOFING.
AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE RIGHT ELEVATION, THE BOTTOM SKIRTING IS EITHER MISSING, DETERIORATED, OR THE BOARD BOARD PLANKS ARE MISSING.
THIS IS THE REAR ELEVATION ALSO IN NEED OF WHERE THE PROOFING, AS YOU CAN SEE ON TOP OF THE OVERHANG IS DETERIORATED OR DAMAGED.
ALSO, THE WEATHER, UH, SKIRTING IS MISSING.
THE BOTTOM PORTION OF THE SKIRTING IS MISSING, UH, LEAVING THE FOUNDATION OPEN TO THE ELEMENTS.
HERE'S ANOTHER VIEW OF THE REAR ELEVATION, ALSO SHOWING THAT IT NEEDS, UH, WEATHERPROOFING.
NEXT PHOTO HERE WE HAVE A PHOTO OF THE FOUNDATION WHERE IT IS SHOWING THAT IT'S DETERIORATED.
THE BEAM, UH, IS OPEN TO THE ELEMENTS.
THE NEXT PHOTO, HERE'S THE, UH, A PHOTO OF THE POST AND THE BEAM HERE.
ALL THE SHEET ROCK HAS BEEN REMOVED, UH, EXPOSING ALL THE STUDS, THE FLOOR JOISTS, AND THE THE GRADE.
IT'S ALSO, UH, OPEN TO THE ELEMENTS CAUSING FURTHER, UH, DETERIORATION.
PHOTO OF, UH, WHERE ALL THE SHEET ROCK HAS BEEN REMOVED.
INSIDE THE, IN INTERIOR OF THE STRUCTURE, ALL THE STUDS ARE EXPOSED TO THE ELEMENTS.
UH, YOU COULD SEE DOWN ALL THE WAY DOWN TO GRADE.
NEXT PHOTO, ANOTHER PHOTO OF WHERE ALL THE SHEET ROCK HAS BEEN REMOVED.
ONLY THE BARE SKELETON REMAINS.
ALL THE STUDS ARE EXPOSED TO THE ELEMENTS.
HERE'S A PHOTO OF THE FLOOR JOISTS.
THE SUBFLOOR HAS BEEN REMOVED.
YOU CAN SEE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO GRADE THE ACCUMULATION OF TRASH AND DEBRIS.
UH, THE ELECTRICAL WIRING, THE PLUMBING ALL EXPOSED ALSO IS EXPOSED TO THE ELEMENTS.
UH, IF YOU CAN SEE UP TO THE TOP HAND PORTION OF THE STRUCTURE WHERE IT'S OPEN TO THE ELEMENTS, YOU HAVE EVEN HAVE SOME KIND OF AIR CONDITIONING HANGING BY ITS WIRES.
THERE ANOTHER PHOTO OF THE SUBFLOOR THAT'S MISSING.
THIS IS GONNA BE THE ACCESSARY STRUCTURE TOWARDS THE BACK OF 1 34 OKLAHOMA.
UH, THIS WALLS HAVE BEEN REMOVED.
THE STUDS HAVE BEEN EXPOSED TO, TO THE ELEMENTS.
WE HAVE A PHOTO HERE OF THE OVERHANG, WHICH IS DETERIORATED.
THE BOARD PLANKS NEED WEATHERPROOFING.
THE BOARD PLANKS ARE DETERIORATING FROM THE MAIN, UM, ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.
NEXT PHOTO HERE, WE JUST HAVE A PICTURE OF THE, UH, ACCUMULATION OF TRASH AND DEBRIS INSIDE THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.
UM, THERE'S SOME SIGN OF VAGRANCY THAT'S GOING ON.
NEXT PHOTO, ANOTHER PHOTO OF ALL THE TRASH AND DEBRIS THAT WAS LEFT BEHIND THE SHEET ROCK HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM ALL THE STUDS, THE CEILING JOISTS, AND WAS JUST LEFT BEHIND AND OPEN TO THE ELEMENTS.
THIS IS A SINGLE STORY RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE WITH A GABLE ASPHALT SHINGLE ROOF SYSTEM THAT IS DILAPIDATED AND CAVING.
IN THE EXTERIOR IS WOOD SIDING, WHICH IS BOWING AND DETERIORATED.
THE INTERIOR WALLS HAVE BEEN REMOVED, EXPOSING THE WOOD FRAME AND EXPOSED TO THE ELEMENTS.
THE FOUNDATION IS A POST AND BEAM THAT HAS DETERIORATED AND SEAL PLATES ARE BROKEN AND MISSING.
THE ACCESSORY IS A WOOD FRAME STRUCTURE THAT IS, THAT HAS SUSTAINED FIRE DAMAGE AND LEANING, WHICH AT THIS TIME THE INTERIOR EXPOSED TO THE ELEMENTS.
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TO RECAP, THE STRUCTURES LOCATED AT 1 34 OKLAHOMA ARE IN VIOLATION OF CITY CODE ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER 6, 1, 5 6.SUBSECTION 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 8, 11, 12, 15, AND 17.
IN WHICH ANY BUILDING OR STRUCTURE, WHICH HAS ANY OR ALL THE CONDITIONS OR DEFECTS HEREINAFTER DESCRIBED SHALL BE DEEMED TO BE A DANGEROUS BUILDING.
ANY HAZARD TO PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE PROVIDE AS SUCH, CONDITIONS OR DEFECTS.
DEFECTS OR DILAPIDATION, SUBSTANDARDS OR OF FITNESS FOR HUMAN HABITATION POSES A THREAT OR POTENTIAL THREAT TO LIFE, HEALTH, PROPERTY OR HUMAN SAFETY STAFF RECOMMENDS DEMOLITION.
THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION OF 1 3 4.
OKLAHOMA, IN YOUR PRESENTATION YOU SAID THAT THE, UH, THE MAIN WAS 1, 2, 4.
THE ADDRESS, I'M SORRY, THE, I I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION.
IN THE MAIN, FOR THE, UM, FOR THE, FOR THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR DEMOLITION, THE SUBSECTIONS, I HEARD YOU SAY FOUR AND I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN THE, UM, I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN THE, UH, CODE VIOLATIONS.
YOU JUST GIMME A MINUTE PLEASE.
THERE FOUR WAS A MISPRINT ON MY OUTLINE.
RIGHT, THIS IS ROBERT TOPPING.
SO CLARIFICATION ON YOUR CODE DEFINITION.
SIX DASH 1 56 IS FOR BOTH THE MAIN AND THE ACCESSORY.
UH, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE OFFICER? THANK ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE OFFICER? NO.
THERE'S NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS PROPERTY.
SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION? HELLO? PAUL HERNANDEZ HERE.
UM, I MOVED AT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1 34.
OKLAHOMA STREET IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE, WHICH IS NOT FEASIBLE TO BE REPAIRED AT THIS TIME AND IS IN VIOLATION OF CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION 1 56, UM, SECTIONS SUBSECTION TWO, SUBSECTIONS 2, 5, 7, 8, 12, 15, AND 17.
THAT'S THE MAIN AND THE ACCESSORY BOTH.
UM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.
I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY BE DEMOLISHED, REPAIRED WITHIN 30 DAYS FROM THE ISSUANCE OF THIS ORDER AND ALSO SECURED AND VACATED.
UM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THIS.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? OH NO, NO, I'M NOT SORRY.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR, UH, DEMO 30 DAY DEMO ORDER FOR 1 34 OKLAHOMA STREET.
AND UH, WE HAVE A SEE SECURE IT TO VACATE IT AND TO CUT.
MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE UTILITIES HAVE BEEN CUT AND THEY'RE UN LISTED UNDER SUBSECTIONS, UH, 2 5 7 8, 12, 15, AND 17.
AND THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE ALSO 2 5 7 8, 12, 15 AND 17.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY DISCUSSIONS? NO.
COULD WE GO TO ROLL CALL PLEASE? ROBERT TAPIA.
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AYE.MOTION PASSES WITH THE VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO.
OKAY, DO WE HAVE ANY STAFF REPORTS? HI, JUDY KRUM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
JUST WANTED TO GO OVER THE B S B MEMBERSHIP PANEL.
A MEMBERS, JESSE ZUNIGA WAS REAPPOINTED TO THE B S B ON AUGUST 3RD.
MR. PAUL HERNANDEZ WAS APPOINTED ON AUGUST 31ST AND REPRESENTS DISTRICT SEVEN.
MR. HERNANDEZ IS A MEMBER OF PANEL A.
UH, FOLLOWING PANEL B MEMBERS HAVE RE BEEN REAPPOINTED.
ERLINDA LOPEZ RODRIGUEZ WAS REAPPOINTED ON MAY 18TH.
KAYLA MIRANDA WAS REAPPOINTED ON AUGUST 3RD.
DWAYNE NELSON AND FERNANDEZ WERE BOTH REAPPOINTED ON AUGUST 31ST.
JOEL SOLIS WAS APPOINTED ON AUGUST 3RD AND REPRESENTS DISTRICT 10.
SO THE BOARD HAS ONE VACANCY, WHICH IS AN AT LARGE POSITION.
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH CITY CLERK'S OFFICE FOR THE VACANCY AND WE CURRENTLY HAVE A PRESS RELEASE ON SOCIAL PLATFORMS SEEKING APPLICANTS FOR THAT POSITION.
IF YOU DO KNOW ANYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WOULD LIKE TO APPLY FOR THE B S V, PLEASE UM, POINT THEM TO THE SOCIAL PLATFORMS, LINKEDIN, FACEBOOK, OR ALSO A CITY CLERK'S OFFICE WEBPAGE.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY VACANCIES EXCEPT THE AT LARGE.
I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER SEEN THAT.
ALRIGHT, ARE THERE ANY OTHER, ANYTHING ELSE THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED OR NOT? I THINK WE ALREADY DISCUSSED IT.
I GUESS WE'RE NOT GETTING LUNCH.
SO
JUDY, JUST A HINT,
BUT ANYWAY, UH, NO ADMINISTRATIVE ITEMS. I GOT ONE QUESTION.
WE, WE ARE LOOKING AT THE C P S TO SHOW UP, CORRECT? FOR THE, UH, FULL BOARD.
WHAT? WE ARE HAVING A C P SS REP AT THE FULL BOARD, CORRECT? I DO NOT HAVE THAT GUARANTEED.
WE WILL REQUEST C P S IS NOT A A WITHIN OUR CITY DEPARTMENTS.
IT'S NOT A CITY DEPARTMENT THAT THEY'RE AN OUTSIDE ENTITY.
SO WE CAN REQUEST INFORMATION, BUT WE CAN'T ASSIGN THEM TO COME.
SO I I DON'T HAVE THAT GUARANTEED AT THIS POINT.
WOULD THE UH, REP OR, OR THE LIAISON, I CAN'T REMEMBER HER NAME.
LINDA, IS THAT RIGHT HERE? SHE WORKS WITH, SHE'S THE LIAISON WITH C P S.
I DON'T KNOW LINDA, BUT I CAN, I'LL, I'LL TAKE IT.
I, YEAH, I MIGHT BE WRONG ON HER NAME, BUT DAN, DANNY WAS THE ONE WHO CONNECTED ME WITH HER.
SO I THINK HER, I THINK HER NAME IS LINDA.
I, I GUESS THAT WOULD BE, SHE'S, UH, SHE'S IN THE CODE AREA NOW, MR. ANDIS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE REQUESTING THE RIGHT INFORMATION.
WHAT IS IT THAT YOU'RE REQUESTING ABOUT C P SS THE PROCESS BETWEEN, BECAUSE WHEN WE ASK FOR A DISCONNECT, I WANT THE FULL PICTURE.
IF IT WAS THE, THE, NOT WHEN YOU GUYS SEND IT, BUT WHAT IS THEIR TIMELINE FROM DISCONNECTING? ESPECIALLY LIKE WHEN WE SAY THE EMERGENCY OF ELECTRICAL AND STUFF, THAT SHOULD BE AN AUTOMATIC DISCONNECT.
WHAT IS THEIR PROCESS? EVEN THOUGH YOU SUBMITTED IT TO 'EM BECAUSE YOU CAN'T DISCONNECT IT.
THIS IS ERIC BURNS WITH LEGAL, ANY ORDER THAT THIS BOARD GIVES IS SUBJECT TO A 30 DAY APPEAL.
SO IF THIS BOARD ORDERS, UM, THE DISCONNECT OF UTILITIES, UM, THE, THAT DISCONNECTION IS SUBJECT TO THE 30 DAY APPEAL.
AND IF SO, I, I, I, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, ALTHOUGH THEY MIGHT, YOU MIGHT ASKING FOR THEIR TIMELINE, THEIR TIMELINE WILL BE AFFECTED BY THE FACT THERE, THERE IS NO IMMEDIATE EMERGENCY DISCONNECT THAT'S NOT, UM, SUBJECT TO A 30 DAY APPEAL.
OKAY, WELL, MY, WHAT I'M SAYING, AND, AND I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING IS NOT ONCE IT'S A 30 DAY APPEAL IS WHEN THEY GET IT, WHAT IS, IF THEY GET IT AS AN, WHEN YOU GUYS SEND IT OVER FROM THE TIME YOU SEND IT OVER AND THE TIME THEY ACT ON IT FROM, DESPITE THE 30 DAY APPEAL, FROM THE TIME THEY ACT ON IT, WHEN IS THAT PROPERTY? 'CAUSE WHAT THEN THAT KIND OF MAKES US MUTE IN ANY DECISION WE MAKE FOR 30 DAYS.
ANY ORDER WE GIVE THAT WE SAY WITHIN 30 DAYS IT'S ACTUALLY GONNA BE 60 PLUS YOUR TWO WEEKS OF NOTICE, WHICH IS REQUIRED BY THE TIME YOU, LIKE, THE SIGNING OF IT IS TWO WEEKS, THEN YOU SEND IT OUT.
THAT, THAT WOULDN'T, I I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD NECESSARILY AFFECT C P S.
SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS GOING ON.
SO, UM, I CAN TELL YOU THE DART UNIT DOES
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HAVE A CONTACT WITH C P SS.UM, I'M NOT, I'M NOT NECESSARILY SAYING THERE'S A SPECIFIC PERSON 'CAUSE I, I'M NOT THE ONE WHO DOES THE, UH, THE COMMUNICATION.
BUT IF WE CAN CONFIRM THAT THERE IS NO UTILITIES OR NO ACTIVE ACCOUNT, EVEN THOUGH THEY MIGHT BE GETTING UTILITIES, UH, WE WILL CONTACT AND COMMUNICATE WITH C P S IN REGARDS TO THAT AND WE LEAVE THAT UP TO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND THE HEAD CODE OFFICER FOR THE TEAM.
UM, SO THAT IS ONE WAY THAT WE ARE IN CONNECTION WITH C P S, BUT IN REGARDS TO, UH, AN EMERGENCY DEMOLITION OR A DEMOLITION THAT THIS BOARD HAS ORDERED, UM, AND IT GOES OUT TO THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR AND THEY MAKE SURE THAT THOSE DISCONNECTION ON THOSE ARE DONE ON DIFFERENT TIMELINES ALSO.
SO, UM, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, BUT I DO WANNA MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT DEPENDING ON WHERE THE COMMUNICATION OR THE COORDINATION WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES COMING FROM IT, THE ANSWER MIGHT BE DIFFERENT.
RIGHT? IF, IF, IF THE DART UNIT GOES OUT TO A PROPERTY AND DETERMINES THAT THAT PROPERTY IS SIPHONING OFF ELECTRICITY, OR IN ESSENCE TAKING IT FROM THE POLE, WE'LL GET C P S OUT THERE.
AND THAT DISCONNECT WILL HAPPEN WITHIN, UM, AN HOUR TO 12 HOURS AS COMPARED TO THIS BOARD ASKING FOR A DISCONNECT, WHICH WILL BE SUBJECT TO ANY APPEAL PROCESS THAT IS ALLOWED.
I HOPE THAT, THAT I, I I HOPE THAT DISTINCTION IS, OR THAT DIFFERENCE IS, IS MADE.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WHEN, WHEN THE QUESTION IS ASKED, WE WE ARE, UH, SPECIFYING THE SITUATION SO YOU CAN GET AN ACCURATE ANSWER FROM C P S.
WELL, YEAH, I MEAN, I'M ALSO LOOKING FOR MORE INSIGHT BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE WHEN, WHEN SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS MAKE THE 30 DAY REQUEST, THEY'RE EXPECTING IT TO BE DONE IN 30 DAYS.
SO EVERYTHING SHUT OFF BOARDING ALL OF THAT WHEN WE KNOW THERE'S A TIME I DO BECAUSE I'M IN CONSTRUCTION, SO I, I KNOW THE CONTRACTOR JUST CAN'T RUSH OUT THERE AND BOARD THINGS UP.
AND I KNOW THE ORDER FROM HERE TO THERE.
YOU LEAVE HERE AND YOU'RE EXPECTING, YOU GIVE THEM THE EMERGENCY THING AND IT'S UP TO THEM TO GO SEND SOMEBODY OUT TO SHUT THE WATER OFF OR CUT THE POWER.
WE KNOW THERE'S SOME TIMELINE, BUT REALISTICALLY WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT CALENDAR, WE GIVE A 30 DAY ORDER, YOU'VE GOT AN APPEAL, YOU'VE GOT A NOTICE 'CAUSE IT CAN'T BE DONE UNTIL SHE SIGNS IT OR MR. NELSON SIGNS IT.
SO THAT'S TWO WEEKS THAT WHEN YOU SEND IT BACK.
SO ONCE THE ORDER'S SIGNED, THEN THERE'S A 30 DAY PLUS THAT TWO WEEKS, AND THEN IT'S THEN ASSIGNED TO EITHER DEMO, WHICH IS ANOTHER, WHATEVER THEY DO.
SO NOW WE'RE REALISTICALLY LOOKING AT ACTUALLY SIX MONTHS TO 90 DAYS BEFORE THAT PROPERTY COULD EVEN BE TOUCHED AT THE EARLIEST IN THOSE NOT SIX MONTHS.
I'M SORRY, MR. ANDES SIX WEEKS EXACTLY WHAT YOU'VE DESCRIBED IS ACCURATE IN SOME INSTANCES, AND THAT IS NOT IN THE PURVIEW OF C P S C P S IS DEALING WITH JUST WE'VE PROVIDE THEM PAPERWORK, WE PROVIDE THEM THE PROPER DOCUMENTATION, AND THEN THEY TAKE THEIR ACTION WITH THEIR STAFFING TO, TO EXECUTE THAT ACTION.
BUT THEY DON'T ACT UNTIL THE, UNTIL WE NOT COURT ORDER IS EITHER NO, THEY DON'T ACT UNTIL D D S D NOTIFIES THEM WITH PROPERTY DOCUMENTATION.
SO THAT COULD BE FROM AN EMERGENCY, UH, DEMOLITION, THAT COULD BE FROM A BOARD ORDER, THAT COULD BE FROM A, UM, A VACATE NOTICE.
THE, OUR DEPARTMENT DOES ISSUE VACATE NOTICES IN SOME INSTANCES AS WELL.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S A, IT IT DOESN'T FILTER IN THAT THEY DO TO THINGS DIFFERENTLY BASED ON WHO'S NOTIFYING THEM OR HOW THEY'RE NOTIFIED WITHIN DE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
THEY JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROFER NOTIFICATION HAS BEEN MADE AND THE PROPER REQUEST HAS BEEN MADE, THAT THEY HAVE THE RIGHT METER, THE RIGHT ADDRESS, AND THE INFORMATION PROVIDED BY SOMEONE IN OUR DEPARTMENT WHO'S AUTHORIZED TO DO SO.
BY UNANIMOUS DECISION, WE ARE ADJOURNED.