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GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
IF WE COULD BEGIN OUR SESSION HERE WITH OUR SPANISH TRANSLATION SERVICES STATEMENT, PLEASE.
UH, BEFORE BE WE BEGIN WITH THE RISE OF, UH, COVID AND FLU.
AGAIN, IF YOU WOULD LIKE A MASK, WE DO HAVE SOME OVER HERE IN THE CORNER.
UM, MY NAME IS ROB SIPES AND I AM THE CHAIR OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT SEVEN REPRESENTATIVE.
UM, I HEREBY CALL THIS REGULARLY NOTICED MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION INTO SESSION.
I'D LIKE TO DO A ROLL CALL BY ALLOWING THE ZONING COMMISSIONERS TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, STARTING WITH THE COMMISSIONER ON MY FAR LEFT.
UH, MARCO BARROS, UH, DISTRICT NINE, JOHN WHITSETT, DISTRICT 10, OSVALDO ORTIZ, DISTRICT EIGHT, TAYLOR WATSON, DISTRICT TWO.
JANELLE CHASE MAYORAL EDDIE REYES.
DISTRICT FOUR CHARLES FUENTES FOR DISTRICT THREE KENE DISTRICT SIX STAFF IS A QUORUM PRESENT.
UH, WOULD EVERYONE PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? THANK YOU.
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TO COMMENCING OUR HEARING, I WOULD LIKE STAFF TO GO OVER OUR MEETING FORMAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE STAFF.BEFORE I BEGIN, PLEASE TURN YOUR PHONES ON VIBRATE OR TURN THEM OFF.
THE ZONING COMMISSION IS AN 11 MEMBER BODY APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE RE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ZONING CASES.
UPON RECEIVING A RECOMMENDATION FROM THIS COMMISSION, YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO FORWARD YOUR CASE TO CITY COUNCIL.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PROCEDURE, PLEASE SEE YOUR CASE MANAGER.
STAFF WILL BEGIN EACH CASE WITH A SHORT PRESENTATION OF THE REQUEST.
PART OF THE PRESENTATION INCLUDES A MAP THAT SHOWS THE AREA TO BE CONSIDERED FOR REZONING AND PROPERTY WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT SITE CHECK MARKS INDICATE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND AN EX INDICATES THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN OPPOSITION.
FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION AND ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION, THE APPLICANT WILL PRESENT THEIR REQUEST.
FOR THOSE THAT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST A PROPOSED REZONING, YOU WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THAT YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
THOSE IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO MINUTES PER SPEAKER AND YOU'RE NOT OBLIGATED TO UTILIZE THE MAXIMUM TIME LIMITATION.
YOU WILL BE INFORMED THAT YOUR TWO MINUTES ARE UP.
FOR THOSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEIR TIME TO A SPEAKER, THAT SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO PEOPLE GIVING THEIR TIME FOR A TOTAL OF SIX MINUTES.
THOSE GIVING UP THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AND SIGNED UP TO SPEAK AND MUST INDICATE THAT THEY'RE YIELDING THEIR TIME.
WHEN THAT SPEAKER GOES TO THE PODIUM, THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL LIMITED TO ONE SPEAKER WITH A TWO MINUTE TIME LIMIT ALONG WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSION QUESTIONS.
STAFF, IF WE COULD GO OVER OUR WITHDRAWN OR POSTPONED ITEMS PLEASE.
UM, THE FIRST ITEM POSTPONED ON THIS AGENDA IS ITEM NUMBER ONE LOCATED AT 1 1 1 3 0 SOUTH INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 35 AND ALSO ITEM NUMBER TWO IS POSTPONED.
THIS IS 1 3 6 3 9 BULL VERDE ROAD.
THOSE TWO ITEMS WILL NOT BE HEARD TODAY AND WILL BE RENO AND NEW NOTIFICATION WILL GO OUT WHEN THOSE ITEMS ARE READY TO PROCEED.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU ARE HERE FOR THOSE TWO PROPERTIES, YOU'RE FREE TO LEAVE AS WE WILL NOT BE HEARING THOSE TODAY AND YOU WILL BE RE NOTIFIED IF AND WHEN FUTURE ACTION ON THOSE PROPERTIES OCCUR.
UH, STAFF IF WE COULD GO OVER THE LIST OF ITEMS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON THE COMBINED HEARING.
NUMBER ONE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE FOR COMBINED HEARING.
ONE ITEMS NUMBER 5, 9 13, 15 16, 19, 23, 24, 25, 27, 28, 29, 31, 32, 34 AND 35.
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COULD YOU SHOW THAT ON THE, ON THE SCREEN? I GOT LOST TO BE HONEST.ALRIGHT, UM, ITEM NUMBER 5 9 13 15 16, 19, 23, 24, 25, 27, 28, 29, 31, 32, 34 AND 35.
ANY OF THESE REMAINING ITEMS YOU WOULD WISH TO PULL TO INDIVIDUAL? LOOKING LEFT AND SEEING NONE.
UM, IF WE COULD PLEASE READ THE COMBINED HEARING NUMBER ONE INTO THE RECORD PLEASE.
UM, A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM NC AND AMENDED TO C TWO NA WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 2 0 215 WEST TEJAS TRAIL.
11 NOTICES WERE SENT, ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED.
AND THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
ITEM NUMBER NINE IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM I ONE TO IDZ THREE WITH USES PERMITTED IN RMM FOUR C THREE AND MULTIFAMILY.
USES APARTMENTS AND OR CONDOMINIUMS NOT TO EXCEED A HUNDRED UNITS PER ACRE.
LIVE WORK UNITS, BAR, AND OR TAVERN WITH COVER CHARGE THREE OR MORE DAYS PER WEEK.
NIGHTCLUB WITH COVER CHARGE THREE OR MORE DAYS PER WEEK.
ALCOHOL, BEVERAGE MANUFACTURER OR BREWERY HOTEL TALLER THAN 35 FEET BEVERAGE MANUFACTURER, NON-ALCOHOLIC INCLUDING MANUFACTURING AND PROCESSING ENTERTAINMENT.
VENUE, OUTDOOR LIVE ENTERTAINMENT WITH AND WITHOUT COVER CHARGE THREE OR MORE DAYS PER WEEK, NOT INCLUDING FOOD SERVICE ESTABLISHMENTS, FOOD SERVICE ESTABLISHMENTS WITH COVER CHARGE THREE OR MORE DAYS PER WEEK WITH OR WITHOUT ACCESSORY.
ENTERTAINMENT AND BEVERAGE MANUFACTURING OR PROCESSING WITH STORAGE AND REPAIR OF SERVICE VEHICLES AND OUTSIDE STORAGE OPEN WITH NO SCREENING INCLUDING SHIPPING CONTAINER STORAGE WITH ALL OVERLAYS.
TWO REMAIN THE SAME, LOCATED AT 1 5 0 8 1 5 1 4 AND 1 5 1 6 BROADWAY 18.
ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND NO RESPONSE FROM THE GOVERNMENT, HILL ALLIANCE OR DOWNTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.
ITEM NUMBER 13 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM MF 33 TO C ONE WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 27 51 NACODOCHES ROAD.
ZERO OPPOSED NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
ITEM NUMBER 15 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FIVE AND AMENDING TO C TWO NA WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 6,000 BLOCK OF CARMONA PASS.
ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
ITEM NUMBER 16 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C TWO AND O TWO TO C TWO S WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A HOTEL WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 76 15 JONES MALTSBERGER ROAD.
OPPOSED SHEER HILLS RIDGEVIEW NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS NOT OPPOSED.
AND OUTSIDE 200 FEET WE RECEIVED ONE.
IN OPPOSITION FOR ITEM NUMBER 19 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FOUR TO R THREE WITH ALL OVERLAYS.
LOCATED AT 10 48 GIBBS STREET.
ZERO OPPOSED AND NO RESPONSE FROM THE JEFFERSON HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 23 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C TWO TO RMM FOUR WITH ALL OVERLAYS.
LOCATED AT 1914 EAST HOUSTON STREET.
ZERO OPPOSED AND NO RESPONSE FROM THE NUITY HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 24 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM I ONE TO R SIX WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 1 2 2 3 NORTH OLIVE STREET.
AND THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET FOR ITEM NUMBER 25.
A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM NP 10 TO L WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 40 SE 4,600 BLOCK OF CASSIAN ROAD.
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SENT ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR.ZERO OPPOSED AND NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN N 200 FEET FOR ITEM NUMBER 27.
A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C TWO TO MF 33 WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 5,000 BLOCK OF PIERCE HALL ROAD.
ZERO OPPOSED AND NO RESPONSE FROM THE SOUTHWEST COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION OR PEOPLE ACTIVE IN COMMUNITY EFFORT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 28 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FIVE AND C THREE TO C ONE CDS WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A CONVENIENCE STORE WITH GASOLINE AND A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A CONVENIENCE STORE WITH GASOLINE FILLING STATION AND GAS TANKS HAVING 50,000 GALLONS OR LESS TOTAL TANK CAPACITY WITHIN 100 FEET OF SINGLE FAMILY ZONING IN USES WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 7 0 3 MISSION ROAD.
AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM THE ROOSEVELT PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 29 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM MP 10 AND AMENDING TO L WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE 9,600 BLOCK OF SOUTH IH 35 15 NOTICES WERE SENT.
ZERO OPPOSED AND NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
ITEM NUMBER 31 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C TWO TO C TWO S WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A CAR WASH WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 5,500 BLOCK OF US HIGHWAY 87.
AND NO RESPONSE FROM LAKESIDE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 32 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM MR TO MF 33 WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE, IN THE 2000 BLOCK OF RESEARCH PLAZA, TWO NOTICES WERE SENT.
AND THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
ITEM NUMBER 34 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C THREE TO MF 33 WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 10,000 BLOCK OF STATE HIGHWAY 1 51.
AND THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET IN ITEM NUMBER 35 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM I TWO TO IDZ THREE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR A HOTEL AND 150 DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 10 25 SOUTH FRIO STREET.
AND THERE'S NO RESPONSE FROM THE HISTORIC WEST SIDE RESIDENCE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
UM, WE DO HAVE SOME PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 23.
AND I JUST GOT A NOTE THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER BUSTA MONTE IS ON HIS WAY AND CAN WE PULL 35, I KNOW WE'VE JUST READ THAT IN, BUT CAN WE PULL THAT SO THAT HE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN? UM, SO WHEN WE MAKE A MOTION, IF WE COULD TO THE COMMISSIONERS.
UM, YES, IF WE COULD HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT PLEASE.
ALEJANDRO CRUZ, WHEN YOU GET TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
OH, I THINK THE MICROPHONE IS STILL OFF SIR, I'M SORRY.
HELLO? UH, MY NAME'S ALEJANDRO CRU.
UH, MY ADDRESS IS 2 0 2 RIGSBY.
UH, I SIGNED IN SIMPLY JUST FOR, UM, CHECK IN HERE.
UH, SO I REALLY DIDN'T HAVE A COMMENT.
HELLO, MY NAME IS ROBERTA UTTIA.
FIRST NAME IS SPELLED LIKE ROBERT WITH AN A ON THE END.
UM, AND THIS IS REGARDING THE PROPERTY AT ON EAST HOUSTON STREET, CASE NUMBER Z 2 2 3 72 69.
I OWN A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT'S ON EAST CROCKETT 1339 EAST CROCKETT, WHICH IS ACROSS THE ALLEY AND A COUPLE OF DOORS DOWN.
UM, THEY'RE REQUESTING THAT THIS PROPERTY
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GO FROM COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL.UM, THE PAPERWORK THAT I RECEIVED INDICATED THAT THIS IS A VACANT HOUSE, BUT THAT IS NOT CORRECT.
IT IS A DUPLEX, SO I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S ALREADY NOT RESIDENTIAL.
UM, THEY HAVE AT LEAST ONE OCCUPANT RIGHT NOW WITH A DOG IN THE BACKYARD.
WE'VE HAD ISSUES WITH THE OCCUPANTS OF THAT ADDRESS DUMPING THEIR TRASH BEHIND OUR PROPERTY BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE TRASH SERVICE.
SO I WANTED NOTED ON THE RECORD THAT THE INFORMATION THAT WENT OUT IS NOT CORRECT.
AND ALSO I WANTED TO SAY THAT IF THEY CAN FORCE THE OCCUPANTS TO GET TRASH SERVICE, THEN I DON'T MIND IT GOING RESIDENTIAL.
BUT IF THEY CAN'T, THEN I VOTE AGAINST AND IT NEEDS TO STAY COMMERCIAL.
THAT'S IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY VOICEMAILS.
UM, AND UH, WE DID HAVE SOME OF THESE THAT WERE AMENDED, CORRECT.
I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE COMBINED HEARING.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ON CONSENT.
ITEM NUMBER FIVE, NUMBER NINE, NUMBER 13.
NUMBER 28, NUMBER 29 AS AMENDED NUMBER 31, NUMBER 32, AND NUMBER 34.
THERE WERE A COUPLE OF OTHERS THAT WERE AMENDED JUST FOR THE RECORD.
UH, ITEM NUMBER FIVE AS AMENDED.
AND ITEM NUMBER 15 AS AMENDED.
EX FRIENDLY CORRECTION ACCEPTED.
AND SECOND EPISODES OF AMENDMENTS AS WELL.
ALRIGHT, SO THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER FIVE AS AMENDED 9 13 15 AS AMENDED 16 19 23, 24, 25, 27, 28, 29 AS AMENDED.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WATSON AND WHO MADE THE SECOND COMMISSIONER BARTLES? YOU MADE THE SECOND.
UM, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU ARE HERE FOR ANY OF THOSE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, THOSE ITEMS WILL NOW BE PROCEEDING TO CITY COUNCIL AND YOU ARE FREE TO LEAVE AND ENJOY THE REST OF THE DAY AND VOTE IF YOU HAVE NOT ALREADY DONE SO, UM, IF WE COULD MOVE TO OUR CONTINUOUS AGENDA, THE ONE ITEM, THE ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS THE FOUR DISTRICT FIVE CASES.
IF WE COULD MOVE THOSE OFF SINCE COMMISSIONER BUSANTE WILL BE COMING SO WE CAN YEAH, I THINK SO.
WE'LL MOVE THOSE TO INDIVIDUAL PROBABLY OR DEFINITELY.
ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD, UM, SO WHAT, UH, IF WE COULD READ WHAT ITEMS WE HAVE REMAINING ON THE CONTINUANCE AGENDA ITEMS THAT I HAVE ON CONTINUANCE ITEM TO DECEMBER 5TH.
WE HAVE ITEMS NUMBER 11, 12, 14, 21, 30, AND 36.
ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD READ THOSE.
OH, HOW ARE YOU
WE COULD START WITH, WE'RE GONNA MAKE THESE,
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SO, UM, UM, SO WE HAVE FOLKS HERE TO DISCUSS ON ITEM 21 AND, UM, WE ALSO HAVE VOICEMAILS.SO WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAR FIRST IF WE COULD HEAR THE VOICEMAILS FOR ITEM 21, PLEASE? OKAY, THANK YOU.
AND THEN WE ALSO DO HAVE A VOICEMAIL FOR ITEM NUMBER 36.
SO PLEASE PLAY THOSE AND THEN WE'LL CALL UP FOLKS FOR, I'M CALLING NUMBER TWO.
I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO CASE NUMBER Z 2 0 2 3 1 0 7 0 2 6 4.
YOU ARE GOING TO BE BUILDING APARTMENTS RIGHT BEHIND MY PROPERTY AT 46 11 BRIAR BROOK.
AND I'M VERY MUCH AGAINST THIS BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING TO BE TAKEN AWAY THE VIEW OF, OF THE SUNSET.
ALSO, YOU'RE GONNA BE, UH, DOING AWAY WITH ALL MY ANIMALS.
I HAVE A LOT OF WILD ANIMALS RIGHT THERE.
UH, AND ALSO YOU'RE TAKING AWAY MY, MY, UH, BEAUTIFUL PINE TREE.
I HAVE A BEAUTIFUL, UH, CHRISTMAS TREE THAT I CALL MY CHRISTMAS TREE.
AND I DON'T WANT ALL THOSE APARTMENTS RIGHT THERE IN MY BACKYARD.
AND, AND I AM VERY MUCH AGAINST ALL THIS THAT YOU'RE BUILDING RIGHT THERE IN MY BACKYARD.
UH, PLEASE RECONSIDER BUILDING RIGHT THERE IN MY BACKYARD.
I DON'T WANT ALL THIS, ALL THIS, THE TRAFFIC ON TIMBER HILL IS GONNA BE HORRENDOUS.
IT ALREADY IS AND IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT GONNA BE ANY BETTER FOR US.
AND PLEASE, I, I DON'T WANT YOU TO BE BUILDING RIGHT THERE IN MY BACKYARD AND I DON'T WANT ALL THIS WILD ANIMALS WHERE THEY'RE GONNA BE GOING.
AND ALSO THE, UH, I DON'T WANT MY TREE GONE.
ALL THIS BEAUTIFUL TREES RIGHT NOW AS IT IS IN A FEW WEEKS, ALL THIS, UH, TREES ARE GONNA BE TURNING.
I DON'T HAVE TO GO TO, UH, TO GO LOOK AT THE TREE SOMEWHERE ELSE.
THEY TURN ALREADY VERY, THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL TREES.
THEY TURN THE COLOR CHANGE AND I, I DON'T HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE TO MAPLE LOS MAPLES TO GO SEE THE TRACE STICKS.
I ALREADY HAVE THAT RIGHT HERE IN MY OWN BACKYARD.
I LIVE AT FOUR FOUR ONE FOUR TIMBER HILL.
UM, MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 717-6443.
THE CASE NUMBER ENDING IN 2 6 4 IS WHAT I'M CALLING ABOUT AND I AM WANTING TO OPPOSE IT.
UM, WHAT I FEEL THAT NEEDS TO BE OPPOSED.
UM, THE REASONS BECAUSE, UM, NATURE AND, UH, THIS IS RAUL GARCIA.
I LIVE AT 46 11 BRIAR BROOK, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 3 8.
AND I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO THE CASE NUMBER 0 2 6 4.
I LEAVE RIGHT BEHIND WHERE THEY, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BUILD THE APARTMENTS AND THEY TOLD ME THEY'RE GONNA BUILD A EIGHT FOOT FENCE ALL THE WAY AROUND.
SO RIGHT NOW I ENJOY ALL THE BEAUTIFUL TREES THAT ARE OUT THERE.
THEY'RE OVER A HUNDRED YEARS, SO THEY'RE OAK TREES, PINE TREES, AND I CAN'T SEE THE SUNSET GOING WAS WITH ALL THOSE APARTMENTS BEING THERE, EVERYTHING, ALL THE VIEW, EVERYTHING BE GONE.
AND ALSO I ENJOY THE, ALL THE WILD ANIMALS WE HAVE IN THE BACK.
AND ALSO ONCE YOU BUILD THOSE APARTMENTS, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE LIVING THERE.
AND ALSO THE, UH, TRAFFIC RIGHT NOW THE WAY IT IS TIMBER HILL, YOU CAN HARDLY DRIVE THERE AT FIVE O'CLOCK, YOU KNOW, SO WE MENTIONED WITH A 350 MORE APARTMENTS BUILDING THERE, TRAFFIC COULD BE TERRIBLE.
SO I'M AGAINST ALL THESE APARTMENTS.
I'M AT THE END OF MY LIFE ALREADY AND I WISH I CAN JUST ENJOY, I'M 84 YEARS OLD ALREADY.
I'VE BEEN LIVING HERE SINCE 1978, SO I WISH I WAS JUST DENIED THAT.
IF YOU GET ANY QUESTION, JUST GIMME A CALL AT (210) 378-5085.
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MY NAME IS SUZANNE GAMBOA AND I'M AT 71 14 BUFFALO CREEK.CALLING ABOUT THE CASE, UH, WITH THE LAST THREE NUMBERS, 2, 6, 4.
UM, I WANT TO REGISTER OPPOSITION TO THIS, UH, REZONING.
UH, I DON'T THINK ENOUGH STUDY HAS BEEN DONE ABOUT THE IMPACT TO WILDLIFE OR TO, UH, AIR POLLUTION OR FLOODING.
UM, IF THAT, THIS, UM, MUCH, UH, CONSTRUCTION IS DONE.
YES, MY NAME'S RALPH CHRIS AT 4 1 0 EAST FRENCH PLACE AND I'M IN FAVOR OF THE ZONING FOR SAINT GREEK CHURCH FOR SAINT GREEK CHURCH, UH, EAST FRENCH AND, UH, ST.
MARY'S STREET, EAST FRENCH AND NORTH ST.
OKAY, THEN YOU CAN LEAVE YOUR PHONE NUMBER TOO, OR NO PHONE NUMBER.
MY NAME IS MELISSA ENTAL, REPRESENTING THE LAVACCA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
CALLING WITH REFERENCE TO ITEM NUMBER 14 14 22 SOUTH ST.
WE SUBMITTED A POSITION LETTER ON THIS CASE ON OCTOBER 16TH, 2023 FOR THE ORIGINAL HEARING DATE.
WE DO NOT SUPPORT AN EXCEPTION TO THE TEXAS ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE CODE FOR ALCOHOL SALES NEAR A SCHOOL, CHURCH, OR HOSPITAL.
WE DO NOT SUPPORT IDV THAT WAIVES ONSITE PARKING HERE.
STREET PARKING IS UNAVAILABLE IN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY, WHICH IS ALSO AN EMERGENCY SERVICE ROUTE IN HOST CITY BIKE LANES.
THE OWNER'S PROPERTY OWNER'S PROPOSED SOLUTION TO RENT A SHARE.
PARKING ON ADJACENT LOT IS NOT A STABLE, STABLE SOLUTION.
THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT THE PROPOSED PARKING SOLUTION WILL BE IN EFFECT INDEFINITELY.
AND AS TENANTS CHANGE, WE LOOK FORWARD TO MEETING WITH THE OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE TO CONSIDER ALTERNATIVE SOLUTIONS FOR SUCCESSFUL DEVELOPMENT AT THIS SITE.
THAT IS IT FOR VOICEMAILS AND THEN I WILL GO ONTO PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, FIRST SIGNED UP FOR ITEM NUMBER 21, MR. EUGENE CORONADO.
AND JUST A NOTE TO THE, TO THE NEIGHBORS SIGNED UP FOR ITEM 21.
THIS IS ON THE CONTINUANCE AGENDA FOR A CONTINUANCE FOR A MONTH.
UM, AND SO YOU'RE FREE TO SPEAK NOW.
YOU'RE FREE TO SPEAK AT THE, AT THE DECEMBER MEETING, OR YOU CAN SPEAK BOTH TIMES.
UM, MR. ART LONGORIA LONGORIA, PLEASE.
HELLO, MY NAME IS EUGENE PODO AND I RESIDED, UH, 46 11 CANTER BROOK.
THAT'S THE NEXT STREET OVER TO TIMBER HILL.
UH, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE GOING TO INHERIT THE EXIT, THE EMERGENCY EXIT TO THE, UM, TIMBER HILL PROJECT OF, I THINK THEY CALL IT TIMBER HILL VILLAGE.
I DON'T KNOW, BUT, UH, WE'RE GONNA INHERIT THIRD TRAFFIC AND OUTTA MY STREET.
THERE'S ONLY ONE RESIDENT THAT HAS KIDS 10 AND UNDER AND THE REST ARE ALL SENIOR CITIZENS.
AND WE ALL FELT THAT WE WERE BUYING PROPERTY WAY BACK WHEN TO RETIRE IN THAT TOO.
I DON'T KNOW, WITH THIS, UH, UH, DEVELOPMENT OF THE APARTMENTS THAT THEY WANNA PUT, THEY'RE SPECIFYING JUST ONE EXIT, WHICH IS TIMBER HILL, BUT THEY NEED A SECOND, ONE.
SECOND EXIT SHOULD BE GOING TO, UH, SHADOW MISS, BUT YOU GOTTA DEAL WITH LEON VALLEY 'CAUSE THAT'S THIRD STREET.
THE OTHER ONE IS TO BUILD A BRIDGE OVER THE, UH, LEON CREEK SO THAT THEY CAN EXIT TOWARDS, UH, HOUCK.
BUT ALL IN ALL, IT'S GONNA BE A NIGHTMARE.
AND ON THE 19TH I'LL TALK ABOUT ALL OF THE SCHOOLS THAT THIS IS GONNA AFFECT.
IT'S GONNA AFFECT, UH, A NUMBER OF SCHOOL, ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE SCHOOLS.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE ROOM FOR 'EM RIGHT NOW.
THE THE ONES THAT ARE LIVING IN TIMBER HILL, I CAN'T RECALL THE THE NAME OF THAT SUBDIVISION, BUT THERE'S 7,200 HOUSES.
AND WHAT THEY DID IS THEY TRANSFERRED ALL THEIR KIDS TO POWELL ELEMENTARY, WHICH IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF LOOP FOUR 10.
AND THEIR MIDDLE SCHOOL, THEY ALL GO TO SOUTH ROSS.
THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT ALSO.
AND THEN THE ONE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ON WORSE, BUT THAT GUY TOLD ME THIS MORNING, IT'S GONNA BE FOR 314, UH, RESIDENTS.
SO WHERE ARE THEY GONNA PUT THOSE KIDS AND THE KIDS THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING FOR TEMPORARY PROPOSING FOR TEMPLE HILL VILLAGE? UH, THAT'S IT.
NEXT WE HAVE, UM, MR. ART LONGORIA AND THEN FOLLOWED TO BE FOLLOWED BY HERARDO RA.
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EXCUSE ME.HAVE YOU JUST GIVE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS, THEN TELL US ABOUT YOUR VIEWS.
MY NAME IS ARTHUR LONGORIA AND I LIVE AT 41 0 2 TIMBERHILL.
AND WE'RE HAVING ISSUES WITH SOME, UH, BASICALLY TRAFFIC.
UH, UH, I DON'T MEAN ANY ONE PERSON HERE, BUT THE CITY HAS ALLOWED THEM TO PUT IN TWO NEW APARTMENT COMPLEXES ON THE STREET THAT WASN'T DESIGNED FOR THAT.
WE ASKED THE CITY TO PUT IN SPEED BUMPS.
THEY REFUSE, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING WE SUGGEST THEY REFUSE, THEY'RE GONNA, NOW THEY WANT TO BUILD IN 350 MORE APARTMENT BUILDINGS.
NOW I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE YOU'RE GONNA PUT ALL THAT TRAFFIC.
THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY IN, ONE WAY OUT.
AND THAT'S RIGHT NEXT TO MY HOUSE.
THE, THE THE, UM, THE FOUNDATION HAS ALREADY TAKEN.
YOU CANNOT GO UP TIMBER HILL AND FIND ANYBODY THAT LIVES NEXT TO THAT PROPERTY ADJACENT TO WHERE THEY WANNA BUILD AND TELL ME ALL OF THEM WILL HAVE STRUCTURAL DAMAGE, BUT YET NOBODY DOES ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
WE'VE ALREADY PAID FOR THESE HOUSES, BUT YET WE'RE STUCK WITH 'EM.
AND NOW THE CITY WANTS TO ALLOW THEM TO BUILD MORE THERE AND THERE'S NO, NO PLACE TO PUT THE TRAFFIC.
THE THE TRAFFIC HAS DIVERTED FROM GOING TO CUDA AND, AND BANDERA TO CUTTING THROUGH THERE.
AND WE'RE STUCK WITH THE TRAFFIC.
PEOPLE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SHOOTINGS, THERE'S TRAFFIC, THERE'S DRAG RACING GOING ON.
THEY PUT THE CITY PUT IN A $22 MILLION BRIDGE RIGHT NEXT TO MY HOUSE AND IT BECAME A DRAG STRIP, NOT A BRIDGE.
OKAY? SO THAT'S ALL THEY DO IS ON THE WEEKENDS.
YOU, YOU'RE GONNA PUT IN THESE BUILDINGS AND NOBODY KNOWS WHERE THE SCHOOL'S GONNA GO BECAUSE THERE'S, YOU'RE ALREADY UNDERSTAFFED ON ALL YOUR SCHOOLS.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS STRETCHED VERY, VERY THIN.
IT TAKES ON AN AVERAGE OF 32 MINUTES TO GET THE POLICE OFFICER TO COME OUT TO MY HOUSE FOR ANY REASON.
27 MINUTES I CALLED AND TOLD HIM THERE'S BEEN SOME SHOOTING DOWN THERE BY THE PART BY THE SIDEWALK.
27 MINUTES LATER A POLICE OFFICER SHOWS UP, THEY'RE STRETCHED THIN AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU, YOU KNOW HOW YOU'RE GONNA ALLOW THEM TO BUILD MORE, ADD MORE PEOPLE TO THE PROBLEM.
THE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE GROWING HUGE OUT WEST OF TOWN BEYOND 1604 AND ALL THAT, BUT YET WE'RE STUCK WITH IT AND THEY GO THROUGH THERE TO ELIMINATE THE, THE LIGHTS ON BANDERA AND OLED.
AND THEN, ALRIGHT, I THINK, I THINK HE'S SAYING THAT HE WILL WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT TIME.
AND THEN, UM, LAST WILL BE MS. MARY HELEN GONZALEZ, PLEASE.
HELLO, MY NAME'S MARY HELEN GONZALEZ AND I LIVE ON 68.
NO, I FORGOT MY, MY 6 8 5 9 BROOKFIELD.
ANYWAY, I'M HERE TO OPPOSE THIS, UM, REZONING DUE TO THE FACT WHERE YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS SAY ABOUT THE TRAFFIC.
WE ARE THE ONLY CONNECTING TRAFFIC THAT CONNECTS US FROM INGRAM MALL TO GRISSOM.
THAT'S THE ONLY STREET THAT CONNECTS ANY ANYBODY GOING FROM THOSE NE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS.
I'VE LIVED THERE FOR OVER 30 YEARS AND WE ALL HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS, ESPECIALLY ABOUT THE TRAFFIC.
YOU'RE ADDING 300 PLUS MORE RESIDENTIAL APARTMENTS AND IT'S ALREADY PROBLEMATIC IN ORDER JUST TO GET OUT.
AND AT SOME POINTS, YOU KNOW, I LIVE IN A FOUR-WAY STREET AND I CANNOT EVEN TELL YOU HOW HORRIBLE IT IS.
YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU, I MEAN I'VE HAD MY NEIGHBOR BE IN A TO TERRIBLE ACCIDENT BECAUSE THEY DON'T STOP THE, I JUST WON'T GET INTO THAT.
BUT ANYWAY, SO, AND ALSO NOT ONLY THE TRAFFIC, BUT IT'S IMPACTING THE GREEN BELT.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE, UM, IT'S NEGLECTING THE, OH, ALSO WE WERE NOT EVEN LIKE, WE WERE NOT EVEN TOLD ABOUT THIS.
WE'VE HEARD, WE SAW IT ON A SIGN.
I WENT TO THE MEDIAN AND I'VE GOT MORE INFORMATION.
ONLY THE 200 PEOPLE THAT WERE WITHIN THE 200 UH, YARDS I DO BELIEVE GOT NOTICES ABOUT THIS MEETING.
I JUST, I'M HAPPY, UM, A SCHOOL TEACHER.
SO WE HAVE THE DAY OFF FOR GO TO VOTE, WHICH I ALREADY DID.
UM, SO I WAS ABLE TO ATTEND THIS MEETING.
I ATTENDED ANOTHER MEETING WHERE
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I FOUND OUT A LOT MORE INFORMATION.BUT THIS IMPACTS EVERYBODY, THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT JUST THOSE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, POOR PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA HAVE TO DEAL WITH ALL THE EXTRA PEOPLE COMING THROUGH THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, THROUGH THEIR HOMES.
WE HAVE 18 WHEELERS THAT, THAT ARE RESTRICTED TO DRIVE THROUGH OUR SUBDIVISION, BUT THEY STILL GO THROUGH.
UM, SO THESE ARE ALL THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE ABOUT THIS REZONING.
WE DON'T, WE, I'M A PORE POST TO IT.
AND THAT IS IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONTINUANCE ITEMS. AND UM, JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE, WE'RE ADDING A COUPLE ITEMS BACK TO THE CONTINUANCE DOCKET.
SO I CAN REREAD THOSE NUMBERS? YES.
AND, AND, AND FIRST IF WE WOULD MAKE A, A NOTE THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE ENTERED THE, THE MEETING AT 1 25.
SO IF WE COULD REREAD THE CONTINUANCE HEARING NUMBERS CORRECT.
SO ITEMS THAT ARE ON CONTINUANCE TO DECEMBER 5TH ARE ITEMS NUMBER 6, 10, 11, 12, 14, 20, 21, 22, 30, AND 36.
ALRIGHT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE CONTINUANCE HEARING.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE FOLLOWING ITEMS TO THE DECEMBER 5TH HEARING.
ITEM NUMBER SIX, NUMBER 10, NUMBER 11, NUMBER 12, NUMBER 14, NUMBER 20, NUMBER 21.
NUMBER 22, NUMBER 30, AND NUMBER THREE.
ALRIGHT, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.
ALRIGHT, THE MOTION IS TO CONTINUE ITEMS 6, 10, 11, 12, 14, 20, 21, 22, 30, AND 36 TO THE DECEMBER 5TH HEARING MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER WATSON.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES.
COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE ABSTAIN AND CHAIR SIPES? YES.
ITEMS PASS FOR CONTINUANCE FOR DECEMBER 5TH.
AND WE WILL SEE Y'ALL IN A MONTH.
ALRIGHT, WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO OUR INDIVIDUAL HEARING.
I BELIEVE THE FIRST CASE, MR. CHAIR.
JUST NOW THAT WE HAVE OUR DISTRICT FIVE, UH, COMMISSIONER HERE, UM, ITEM NUMBER 35 WAS ALSO TO BE ON CONSENT.
IF THAT ITEM COULD BE CONSIDERED FOR CONSENT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
ITEM 35 DOES, HOW DOES COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE FEEL ABOUT THAT ITEM? OKAY, HE IS OKAY WITH THAT.
UM, SHOULD WE JUST, I'LL READ IT IN.
GOING BACK TO THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR ITEM NUMBER 35 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM I TWO TO IDZ THREE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR A HOTEL AND 150 DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 10 25 SOUTH FRIO STREET, 14 NOTICES SENT ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND NO RESPONSE FROM THE HISTORIC WEST SIDE RESIDENCE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
I JUST REALIZED I ALREADY HAD READ THAT, BUT THAT'S GOOD 'CAUSE WE'LL HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION ON THAT SEPARATELY.
UM, AND WE NO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT ITEM.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER, NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? UH, YES, MR. CHAIR, I MOVE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR ITEM NUMBER 35, PLEASE.
MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE FOR ITEM 35.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARTOS.
ANY DISCUSSION? LOOKING LEFT? LOOKING RIGHT.
NOW ONTO THE INDIVIDUAL HEARING.
I BELIEVE ITEM NUMBER THREE IS FIRST ON THE LIST.
IF WE COULD HAVE STAFF'S REPORT PLEASE.
ANN BETA ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER THREE IS LOCATED AT 5 4 2 3 NORTH LOOP 1604 WEST AND IS AN MPCD SITE PLAN AMENDMENT TO CHANGE 4.688 ACRES OF AN EXISTING MPCD PLAN FROM COMMERCIAL TO MIXED USE.
THERE WERE 14 NOTICES SENT WITH ZERO RETURN IN FAVOR, ZERO
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RETURN IN OPPOSITION.AND THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON BERRY LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
THE CURRENT MPCD MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE SUBJECT AREA IS PART OF A LARGER COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT IS ALREADY WELL ESTABLISHED.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A MAJOR SITE PLAN AMENDMENT TO CONVERT 4.68 ACRES, 4.688 ACRES OF LAND DESIGNATED AS COMMERCIAL RETAIL TO MIXED USE TO ALLOW FOR THE CONVERSION OF AN EXISTING EXTENDED STAY HOTEL INTO MULTI-FAMILY UNITS.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO PRES HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND SAWS HAS THEIR PRESENTATION AS WELL.
IF WE COULD HAVE SAS REPORT PLEASE.
MIKE ESCALANTE WITH SAS AQUIFER PROTECTION AND EVALUATION SECTION.
WE REVIEWED THE ZONING APPLICATION LOCATED AT 54 23 NORTH LOOP, 1604 WEST, ALLOWING FOR MULTIFAMILY UNITS ON 4.68 ACRE, UH, DEVELOPED SITE.
THERE IS, THERE IS AN EXISTING HOTEL WITH A PARKING AREA ON SITE.
NO PORTION OF THE SITE IS IN A FLOODPLAIN AND NO SENSITIVE, NO SENSITIVE FEATURES WERE OBSERVED ON SITE.
NO NEW CONSTRUCTION IS BEING PROPOSED, THEREFORE THE EXISTING 71% IMPIOUS COVERAGE SHALL NOT BE INCREASED.
UH, SAS RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH ALL ENVIRONMENTAL RECOMMENDATIONS WITHIN THE SAS REPORT.
IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE.
I'M ROB KILLEN, ATTORNEY LAW FIRM OF KILLEN GRIFFIN FAIRMONT.
OUR ADDRESS IS 1 0 1 0 1 REUNION PLACE, UH, HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
I KNOW YOU'VE GOT A LONG AGENDA.
I'VE NEVER HAD THE FIRST CASE.
UH, BUT YOU'VE GOT A FULL AGENDA SO I'LL KEEP MY COMMENTS BRIEF.
THIS IS A AMENDMENT TO THE MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY DISTRICT FOR AN EXTENDED STAY HOTEL.
IN FACT, THE BUILDING WAS DESIGNED ORIGINALLY, UH, TO BE BOTH APARTMENTS AND EXTENDED STAY HOTEL ONE, THEIR OTHER TERM FOR EXTENDED STAY HOTEL IS CORPORATE APARTMENTS.
SO THIS IS OUT AT THE RIM, IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO TOPGOLF.
WE'VE GOT, UH, QUICK, QUICK, QUICK PRESENTATION JUST TO SHOW YOU WHERE IT IS, BUT I DO WANT TO THANK, UH, STAFF FOR THEIR REPORT RECOMMENDATION.
I WANNA THANK MIKE FROM SAS FOR ALL THEIR HARD WORK.
UH, COUNCIL PLY AS, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, AND OF COURSE THE DISTRICT A TEAM FOR ALL THEIR HARD WORK.
UH, IT'S AN EXISTING UH, UH, HOTEL.
YOU SEE IT ALL THE TIME WHEN YOU DRIVE BY.
IF YOU EVER GO TO TOPGOLF, YOU SEE IT.
EVERYTHING IS GONNA STAY EXACTLY THE SAME.
EACH OF THESE UNITS, THERE'S ONE, TWO, AND THREE BEDROOM UNITS.
EACH OF THESE UNITS HAS A KITCHEN AND A WASHER DRYER.
SO, UH, AGAIN, THEY'RE ALREADY DESIGNED TO BE APARTMENTS.
UH, YOU CAN SEE IT OUTLINED IN GREEN THERE.
TOP GOLF IS THAT BIG GREEN SPACE RIGHT TO THE TOP.
YOU GOT ANDRETTI RIGHT NEXT DOOR.
LOTS OF LOTS OF PLACES TO EAT AND DRINK AND UH, GOLF AND PLAY GAMES RIGHT IN THAT AREA.
THE RIM, AS YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN BUILT OUT OVER ABOUT THE F PAST 15, 16 YEARS.
WE'VE GOT LOTS OF APARTMENTS ALREADY OUT THE RIM, LOTS OF HOTELS OUT THE RIM.
AND AGAIN, THIS WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED TO BE BOTH APARTMENTS AND EXTENDED STAY HOTEL.
AND SO NOTHING IS REALLY CHANGING.
UH, THIS IS LIKE THE SIMPLEST ZONING CASE I THINK I'VE EVER BROUGHT.
WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR AN AMENDMENT, THE SITE PLAN TO ALLOW FOR IT TO BE BOTH THE EXTENDED STAY HOTEL AND FOR APARTMENTS.
WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE COMMISSION MIGHT HAVE.
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
ALRIGHT, THIS IS A DISTRICT EIGHT CASE, SO TO YOU COMMISSIONER ORTIZ FOR QUESTIONS.
UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
I'M GONNA HAND IT OVER TO YOU GUYS IN CASE Y'ALL DO JUST IN CASE.
FELLOW COMMISSIONERS LOOKING LEFT.
ANY COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT? NONE.
BACK TO YOU COMMISSIONER ORTIZ FOR A MOTION.
UM, THIS IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD, LIKE, UM, THANK YOU FOR THE APPLICATION.
OF COURSE THE APPLICANT FOR THE PRESENTATION.
OF COURSE SAULS AS WELL FOR THE PRESENTATION, BUT I'LL BE SUPPORTING, UM, THIS CHANGE.
SO DOES THAT MEAN YOU'RE GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE? SORRY, I'M BE, I HAVEN'T BEEN HERE IN A WHILE.
I, I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR, UH, APPROVAL.
THERE'S A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARROS.
IF WE COULD HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.
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UH, MOTION PASSES.ALRIGHT, I BELIEVE ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS NEXT.
IF WE COULD HAVE STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
UH, CLIN ISEN PLANNING COORDINATOR WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
UM, THIS IS A PROPOSED ZONING RELATED TO FUTURE, UH, EXCUSE ME, FULL PURPOSE ANNEXATION OF 135 PROPERTIES, UH, TOTALING 4205.72 ACRES, OR 6.571 SQUARE MILES.
UH, GENERALLY LOCATED SOUTH OF LOOP FOUR 10 BETWEEN PEARSALL ROAD AND US HIGHWAY 81 180 1 SOUTH, UH, IN THE CITY'S ETJ AND SOUTH BEAR COUNTY.
UH, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND HERE.
UH, ON THE PROPOSED ZONING, THESE, UH, THE PROPERTIES, THE ANNEXATION PROPERTIES THEMSELVES, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO INITIATED LIMITED PURPOSE ANNEXATION IN 2014 OF THE AREA AND THEN, UH, FULL PURPOSE ANNEXATION OF THE AREA IN 2016.
AS PART OF BOTH ANNEXATION PROCESSES.
UH, THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE REQUIRED THE CITY TO OFFER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS WITH THE PROPERTIES BASED ON, UH, APPLICABLE APPRAISAL FOR A VALOREM, UH, TAX PURPOSES FOR ANY LAND THAT WAS DESIGNATED AS AGRICULTURAL TIMBER OR WILDLIFE MANAGEMENT.
UM, PRIOR TO THE FULL PURPOSE ANNEXATION, ALL OF THESE PROPERTIES ENTERED INTO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, UH, WHICH GUARANTEED THEIR EXTRA TERRITORIAL ETJ UM, JURISDICTION STATUS.
UM, AND THEY REMAIN OUTSIDE CITY LIMITS.
THESE AGREEMENTS THEMSELVES WERE FOR A PERIOD OF 10 YEARS.
UH, ALL OF THESE WERE DONE IN 2014 AND ARE SET TO EXPIRE JANUARY 19TH, 2024.
THE, UH, PROPOSED ZONING CURRENT, UM, MOSTLY OCL OUTSIDE CITY LIMITS.
THERE'S SOME RP, MF 25 C TWO, UH, RD AND FR PROPOSED.
I WILL GO THROUGH, THIS IS ALL THE PROPOSED, BUT I WILL GO THROUGH AREAS THEMSELVES.
WE HAVE 12 DIFFERENT AREAS WHICH HAVE THE, THE SPECIFIC CURRENT ZONING AND PROPOSED ZONING FOR EACH ONE.
AREA NUMBER ONE, UH, OLD PEARSALL ROAD IN SOUTHWEST LOOP.
4 10 42 NOTICES MAILED ONE IN FAVOR, ZERO IN OPPOSITION.
CURRENTLY ALL OCL OUTSIDE CITY LIMITS.
PROPOSED C TWO C THREE AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
THIS IS THE AERIAL AND PICTURES OF THE PROPERTIES.
AND NEXT AREA, TWO FISHER ROAD, SOMERSET ROAD IN SOUTHWEST LOOP 4 10 99.
NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO IN OPPOSITION.
CURRENTLY OCLC TWO, THE C TWO IS LOCATED, UM, A LONG FOUR 10 RIGHT SOUTH OF UH, LOOP FOUR 10.
THERE'S ABOUT A 500 FEET ON THE, THE SOUTH SIDE THAT'S ALREADY INSIDE CITY LIMITS.
THAT'S WHERE THE C TWO AND UD IS LOCATED.
PROPOSED R FOUR, R FOUR, CD C TWO AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ARIEL IN PICTURES AREA THREE BETWEEN I 35 SOUTH FISHER ROAD, SOMERSET ROAD, AND V ARMY ROAD.
71 NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO IN OPPOSITION.
ALL OCL CURRENTLY PROPOSED RP AND NP EIGHT AND N-P-H-C-D-S.
UH, THE N-P-H-C-D-S IS FOR CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS AND A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR HUD CODE MANUFACTURED HOMES WHICH ARE ALREADY LOCATED ON THE PROPERTIES AREA AND PICTURES OF THAT AREA.
AREA FOUR, SOMERSET ROAD AND WATSON ROAD 284.
NOTICES MAILED ONE IN FAVOR, ZERO IN OPPOSITION.
CURRENTLY ALL OCL PROPOSED FR FARM AND RANCH RP, R-E-R-E-S-N-P EIGHT N-P-H-C-D-N-P-H-C-D-S AND R FIVE.
THE RES IS RESIDENTIAL ESTATE WITH SPECIFIC USE FOR HUD CODE MANUFACTURED HOME.
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PRESERVATION WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS AND N-P-E-C-D-S IS THE SAME AS THE LAST ONE.AREA AND PICTURES OF THIS AREA AREA FIVE, UH, VERANO PARKWAY AND STATE HIGHWAY 16 SOUTH 44 NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO IN OPPOSITION.
CURRENTLY OCL PROPOSED RP, FR AND R FIVE.
SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AREA AND PICTURES OF THIS AREA ARE HERE.
AREA SIX, APPLEWHITE ROAD AND NEAL ROAD 20.
NOTICES MAILED TWO IN FAVOR, ZERO IN OPPOSITION.
CURRENTLY ALL OCL PROPOSED ALL FARM AND RANCH AERIAL AND PICTURES OF THIS AREA AND AREA SEVEN CAMPBELLTON ROAD AND SOUTH LOOP 16 0 4 77.
NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR, ONE IN OPPOSITION.
I WOULD CHANGE THAT TO TWO IN OPPOSITION.
UH, WE RECENTLY GOT ANOTHER ONE EARLIER TODAY.
UH, CURRENTLY ALL OCL PROPOSED RP R-E-R-E-S AND R-E-C-D-S-R-E-S IS SPECIFIC, EXCUSE ME, RESIDENTIAL ESTATE WITH A SPECIFIC USE FOR HUD CODE MANUFACTURED HOME AND OUR ECDS.
TWO DUANE UNITS AND SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR HUD CODE MANUFACTURED HOME.
HERE'S THE AERIAL AND PICTURES OF THIS AREA.
AREA EIGHT SOUTH LOOP 1604 AND IH 37 SOUTH 83.
NOTICES MAILED ONE IN FAVOR, ZERO IN OPPOSITION.
CURRENTLY OCL PROPOSED R-P-C-D-S-R 20 RE AND FARM AND RANCH F.
THE RP CDS IS UH, FOR A CONDITIONAL USE, EXCUSE ME, RESOURCE PROTECTION WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO DWAYNE UNITS AND A SPECIFIC USE FOR A HUD CODE MANUFACTURED HOME.
THIS IS THE AREA ON PICTURES FOR AREA EIGHT, AREA NINE IH 37 SOUTH AND SOUTH LOOP 1604 EAST 34 NOTICES MAILED TO IN FAVOR.
CURRENTLY O-C-L-O-C-L-P-M RES O-C-L-P-M RES MEANS UH, PERMIT REQUIRED FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
PROPOSED FARM AND RANCH AND C TWO COMMERCIAL.
HERE'S THE AER AND PICTURES FOR THIS ONE AREA.
10 DONNA ROAD AND IH 37 SOUTH 13 NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO IN OPPOSITION.
ALL CURRENTLY OCL OUTSIDE CITY LIMITS.
PROPOSED FR AND RE ARI AND PICTURES FOR THAT ONE AREA.
11 SOUTHTON ROAD, BLUEING ROAD, DONNA ROAD, OLD CORPUS CHRISTI ROAD AND ON BOTH SIDES OF IH 37 SOUTH 174.
I'LL CHANGE THAT ONE TO TWO IN OPPOSITION.
WE DID RECEIVE ANOTHER FOR THAT ONE.
THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS A SOUTH END COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
CURRENTLY O-C-L-O-C-L-P-M RES FARM RANCH FR NP 10 MF 25 PROPOSED FR RRP RPSR FOUR AND C TWO COMMERCIAL.
THE RPS AGAIN IS RESOURCE PROTECTION WITH A SPECIFIC USE FOR HUD CODE MANUFACTURED HOME, THE AREA AND PICTURES FOR THAT AREA.
AND OUR FINAL AREA AREA 12, UH, ALONG THE SPOT OF ROAD SOUTH OF LOOP 4 10 73 NOTICES MAILED.
ZERO IN FAVOR, ONE IN OPPOSITION.
CURRENTLY O-C-L-O-C-L PM RES AND FARM AND RANCH.
WE ARE MAKING IT ALL PROPOSING, EXCUSE ME, TO BE ALL FARM AND RANCH
AND HERE'S THE ER ON PICTURES FOR THAT ONE TIMELINE.
WE PREVIOUSLY WENT TO PLANNING COMMISSION ON OCTOBER 11 FOR THE ANNEXATION ITSELF AS WELL AS THE RELATED PLAN AMENDMENTS FOR THIS.
OBVIOUSLY WE ARE AT ZONING COMMISSION TODAY.
NOVEMBER 30TH, UH, WILL BE THE CITY COUNCIL PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF EVERYTHING.
UH, THE ANNEXATION, THE PLAN AMENDMENTS AND THE ZONING.
AND THEN THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF ANNEXATION WILL BE JANUARY 19TH, 2024, WHICH AS I MENTIONED BEFORE IS THE EXPIRATION DATE OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS THEMSELVES AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED ZONING FOR ANNEXATION OF 4205.72 ACRES OF LAND SUBJECT TO THE EXPIRING DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE INDIVIDUAL
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PROPERTY OWNERS.AND, UH, BEFORE WE BEGIN, UM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A NOTE THAT OUR PURVIEW HERE AT THE ZONING COMMISSION IS ONLY LOOKING AT THE PROPOSED LAND USE.
UM, WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT THE ANNEXATION AGREEMENTS, NOT LOOKING AT ANY GRANDFATHERING, ANYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT.
UM, AND STAFF, IF I AM STATING SOMETHING WRONG, PLEASE CORRECT ME, BUT, UM, SO I WITH THAT, IF WE COULD BEGIN WITH PUBLIC COMMENT PLEASE.
WE HAVE BOTH VOICEMAILS AND FOLKS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAR FIRST? HMM.
HAS ANYONE THAT'S SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, HAVE THEY DONE A VOICEMAIL AND IF NOT, HEAR VOICEMAILS FIRST.
UH, IT IS NOVEMBER THE SEVENTH, 2023.
MY NAME IS ANNE MORRIS DE PALMA, UH, ONE BERGER ROAD, MOBILE, ALABAMA THREE SIX SIX ZERO EIGHT.
CALLING ABOUT THE, UM, HEARING TODAY AT 1:00 PM UH, CASE NUMBER Z TWENTY TWENTY THREE TEN SEVEN HUNDRED TWO SIXTY THREE.
I AM IN FAVOR OF GENERAL URBAN TIER.
UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR INCLUDING ME, I APPRECIATE IT.
UH, CALL ME IF YOU NEED ANYTHING.
HELLO, MY NAME IS LISA BRUSKI.
OUR ADDRESS IS 1 4 2 0 8 IH 37 SOUTH ELMENDORF, TEXAS 7 8 1 1 2.
UH, THE LAST THREE NUMBERS OF THE CASE NUMBER ARE 2 6 3.
UM, THE REASON I'M CALLING IS TO LEAVE A MESSAGE FOR THE ZONING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING MEETING I HAD PLANNED TO ATTEND BUT WILL NOT BE ABLE TO.
UM, WE BOUGHT OUR PROPERTY RIGHT BEFORE THE 2013 ANNEXATION WAS ANNOUNCED.
UM, WE'RE, WE WERE NOT IN FAVOR OF OUR PROPERTY BEING ANNEXED AT THAT TIME, BUT WE WEREN'T GIVEN ANY OPTION.
WE AGREED TO THE DELAYED ANNEXATION OF THE BACK PART OF OUR PROPERTY BECAUSE IT WAS THE ONLY OPTION WE WERE GIVEN AT THE TIME.
SINCE THAT TIME, TEXAS LAWS HAVE CHANGED AND IT IS ILLEGAL FOR A CITY TO ANNEX A PROPERTY WITHOUT THE PROPERTY OWNER'S CONSENT.
AND WE CHOSE AND BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY BECAUSE IT WAS OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS AND THEN THE CITY CAME THROUGH AND CHOSE TO ANNEX THE ONLY PROPERTIES ALONG THE HIGHWAY, WHICH IS NOT FAIR.
UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO OBJECT TO THE ANNEXATION OF OUR PROPERTY AND WITH THAT, THE ZONING CHANGE.
UM, IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK WITH ME FURTHER, MY PHONE NUMBER IS TWO ONE ZERO FOUR ONE SIX THREE NINE ZERO NINE TWO ONE ZERO FOUR ONE SIX THREE NINE ZERO NINE AND MY NAME IS LISA BROSKI.
HELLO, MY NAME IS TREVOR BAKER AT ADDRESS.
3 4 6 7 RED BUD GROVE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS SEVEN EIGHT TWO SIX FOUR.
I WANT TO, UH, SHOW THAT WE HAVE AN OPPOSITION TO THE REZONING OF THE PLOT RIGHT BEHIND US GOING TO RPCD FIVE.
SO I WILL GO ON TO SPEAKERS NOW.
UM, FIRST SPEAKER I HAVE SIGNED UP IS MS. ASHLEY FAIRMONT AND THEN TO BE FOLLOWED BY MR. JAMES GRIFFIN.
ASHLEY FAIRMONT KILLING GRIFFIN IN FAIRMONT 1 0 1 0 1 REUNION PLACE.
UH, I'M HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER.
BEXAR COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT PARCEL 1 6 0 4 0 6.
UM, LEMME PULL IT UP OR I CAN.
UM, BUT, BUT I'M HERE TODAY JUST TO SPEAK ON THE PROPOSED ZONING.
RIGHT NOW IT'S PROPOSED FOR RESIDENTIAL ESTATE, A LARGE LOT SINGLE FAMILY.
UH, THE PROPOSED USE OF THIS PROPERTY IS ACTUALLY A MANUFACTURED HOME PARK.
UH, IN DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR, UH, A MASTER PLAN WAS FILED FOR THIS PROPERTY WITH THE CITY THAT HAS BEEN IN PROCESS SINCE THEN.
UH, AS WELL AS A PLA THAT WAS ALSO FILED IN IN DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR.
UH, AND THERE'S ALSO A UTILITY SERVICE AGREEMENT
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THAT'S JUST WAITING ON SIGNATURES.SO THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK DONE TO PREPARE THIS PROPERTY FOR DEVELOPMENT.
I KNOW YOU SPOKE COMMISSIONER ABOUT, UH, GRANDFATHERING AND NOT MENTIONING THAT, UM, OR THAT'S NOT WITHIN YOUR PURVIEW, BUT I DO WANT TO ALL OF THAT TO BE ON THE RECORD JUST TO NOTE THAT THIS USE HAS BEEN PROPOSED, HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS BECAUSE IF WE DON'T GET A ZONING THAT WORKS WITH THE USE, WE DO HAVE TO RELY ON THOSE NON-CONFORMING RIGHTS.
UM, SO UNFORTUNATELY THIS PROPERTY AT PLANNING COMMISSION LAST WEEK, UM, WAS RECOMMENDED FOR A LAND USE THAT IS INCONSISTENT WITH A MANUFACTURED HOUSING ZONING.
SO I DON'T THINK YOU ALL HAVE THE ABILITY TODAY, UM, TO RECOMMEND THAT MANUFACTURED HOUSING ZONING UNLESS IT WAS TO GO BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION.
UM, BUT AGAIN, I JUST WANTED TO PUT ON THE RECORD THE PROPOSED USE OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, AS WELL AS TO NOTE IF WE ARE COMING BACK TO YOU ALL, UH, WITH THE ZONING CASE IN THE FUTURE, UM, THAT THAT HAS BEEN PLANNED PRIOR TO ANNEXATION, I APPRECIATE CLINT AND PRISCILLA, UM, BEING WILLING TO WORK WITH US ON ANY FUTURE ZONING CASES.
AND THEN HE WILL BE FOLLOWED BY MR. LEONARDO HERNANDEZ.
HI, GOOD AFTERNOON, JAMES GRIFFIN, UH, KILLING GRIFFIN AND FERMAN.
UH, SAME ADDRESS AS AS THE LAST ONE.
WE HAVE A COUPLE PROPERTIES HERE.
UM, WE SUPPORT THE, UH, KIND OF AMENDMENT I'LL CALL IT.
UM, AND APPRECIATE CLINT AND PRISCILLA, UH, ACCOMMODATING US.
UM, AND THOSE CHANGES WITHIN THE, THE PARAMETERS OF THE PLAN.
WE'RE STILL, UH, PRETTY LIMITED GIVEN GIVEN THE PLAN DESIGNATIONS.
SO KINDA LIKE ASHLEY JUST MENTIONED, I THINK Y'ALL PROBABLY END UP SEEING A LOT OF THESE PROPERTIES, UH, COME BACK BEFORE YOU HERE IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
BUT, UM, UH, FOR A COUPLE PROPERTIES WE HAVE ONE AREA 11, THE OTHER'S IN AREA FOUR, UH, WE SUPPORT IT AND APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S TIME.
SO THANK Y'ALL MR. LEONARDO HERNANDEZ TO BE FOLLOWED BY MS. ANGELA BERNAL.
CAN YOU PUT THE AREA SEVEN MAP AND UH, I WILL ALSO BE REPRESENTING ANGELA BERNAL.
HER DAUGHTER'S HERE DEFER TO ME.
UM, LEONARDO HERNANDEZ 2 0 2 6 0 HAMILTON ROAD.
UH, YOU CAN SEE THE TWO PROPERTIES ON THE MAP OVER HERE, THIS SMALL AREA HERE, UM, ABOUT 20 ACRES BETWEEN THE TWO.
UM, AND I KIND OF CONCUR WITH LISA, ONE OF THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS ABOUT THE OPPOSITION ON THE ANNEXATION.
I KNOW THIS IS A ZONING COMMITTEE, BUT WE CANNOT OVEREMPHASIZE THAT THE CONSENT STATEMENT ON DEVELOP DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS MADE UNDER DURESS.
THERE WAS NO OPTION TO OPPOSE ANNEXATION 10 YEARS AGO.
WE OPPOSED IT, BUT THEY DIDN'T GIVE US THAT OPTION IN WRITING.
SO ACCORDING TO THE CITY PLANNING OFFICE, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OFFERED BY THE CITY BACK IN 2014 WAS A NON ANNEXATION AGREEMENT FOR 10 YEARS BASED ON AGRICULTURAL AGREEMENT.
WE ARE A LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY, PECAN BUSINESS.
WE GROW HUNDREDS OF PECAN TREES ON THIS PROPERTY AND THE ADJOINING PROPERTY BY ANGELA BERNAL.
WE ARE ACTIVE MEMBERS OF THE TEXAS PECAN GROWERS ASSOCIATION AND HAVE BEEN SINCE 2004.
WHILE WE STRONGLY OPPOSE FOR STANDING STATION, WE KNOW THIS PROCESS IS ABOUT ZONING AND YOU'RE ONLY RECOMMENDING THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY ZONE AS OCL AND REQUEST THE COMMITTEE KEEP US AS OCLS.
NOW THE NOTICE SUBMITTED TO OUR NEIGHBORS, BUT IT DIDN'T COME TO US.
WE, WE GOT, UH, A NOTICE BY OUR NEIGHBORS.
UH, IT STATES IN LARGE BOLD PRINT.
THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO IS HOLDING A HEARING THAT WILL DETERMINE WHETHER YOU MAY LOSE THE RIGHT TO CONTINUE USING YOUR PROPERTY FOR ITS CURRENT USE.
SO IF THE OCL DESIGNATION IS NOT ALLOWED, THEN WE STRONGLY OPPOSE THE RECOMMENDED ZONING OF OUR FARMS TO RE OR RESIDENTIAL ESTATE AND RECOMMEND THAT WE BE ZONED AS FARM AND RANCHING, WHICH IS ACCURATE WHAT WE ARE.
AND IT'S BASED ON THE STATE OF TEXAS GIVING US THE AG EXEMPTION FOR BOTH PROPERTIES.
NOW THESE ARE TWO SMALL VETERAN OWNED PROPERTIES.
WE HAVE NO IMPACT ON THE CITY'S GREATER DEVELOPMENT PLANS.
YOU CAN SEE FROM THE MAP THAT SMALL AREA AND A TIME WHEN BIG BUSINESSES ARE TEARING DOWN TREES, WE OUGHT TO BE SUPPORTING PEOPLE THAT ARE BUILDING TREES.
SO RECOMMEND THE COMMITTEE VOTE TO ZONE THE TWO PROPERTIES OF CAMPBELLTON 1604 AS FARMING AND RANCH.
UM, NEXT IS VALENTINO VERO, AND THEN TO BE FOLLOWED BY MS. REGINA GONZALEZ.
UH, MY NAME IS, UH, VALENTIN VERA.
I RESIDE AT 2 2 0 9 5 CAMPBELLTON ROAD.
UH, BASICALLY I SIGNED IN THINKING THAT I HAD TO SIGN IN, BUT ANYWAY, I'M HERE TO GATHER AS MUCH INFORMATION
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AS I CAN ON THE ANNEXATION.I HAVE NO COMMENT AT THIS TIME.
RIGHT, THANK YOU MS. REGINA GONZALEZ.
AND THEN TO BE FOLLOWED BY MR. ART ALI.
HI, MY NAME IS REGINA GONZALEZ AND I OWN A PROPERTY IN AREA E 12.
AND UM, I AM HERE BECAUSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE FARM AND RANCH ZONING MEANS.
AND IF THEY CHANGE THE PROPERTY IN THE BACK OF US TO FARM AND RANCH, WHAT DOES IT MEAN? DOES IT MEAN THEY, PEOPLE THAT BUY THAT PROPERTY CAN'T BUILD OR THEY CAN BUILD OR CAN THEY DO FENCES AND THEY CAN DO LIKE, JUST HAVE CATTLE AND THAT LIVESTOCK KIND OF THING? OR WHAT DOES IT MEAN IS AND STAFF, DID YOU WANNA OR DO WE, HOW DO WE WANNA APPROACH THAT? WE CAN HAVE THE STAFF TALK TO HER ABOUT THE USES THAT ARE PROPOSED AROUND HER PROPERTY.
BECAUSE IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE WHETHER I'M FOR IT OR AGAINST IT.
SO DO WE HAVE A REAL BRIEF? WHAT, WHAT'S A REAL BRIEF EXPLANATION OF FARM AND RANCH AND WHAT'S ALLOWED? I'M LOOKING, I'M TRYING TO LOOK FOR, I'M OKAY.
I'M GONNA READ YOU THE DESCRIPTION.
I'M LOOKING, I'M LOOKING AS WELL.
THE FARM AND RANCH DISTRICT IS INTENDED TO PRESERVE THE RURAL CHARACTER AND CULTURE BY IMPLEMENTING LARGER MINIMUM LOT SIZES AND BY PROHIBITING IN INCOMPATIBLE LAND USES THE FR DISTRICT PROVIDES AREAS OF AGRICULTURAL OPERATIONS AND NATURAL RESOURCE IN INDUSTRIES.
THESE DISTRICTS ARE COMPRISED PRIMARILY OF LARGE TRACKS OF LAND THAT ARE VACANT OR IN AGRICULTURAL USES AND MAY CONTAIN A MINIMAL NUMBER OF DWELLINGS AND ACCESSORY STRUCTURES.
FFR ZONING PROTECTS AND PRESERVES VALUABLE AGRICULTURAL AREAS.
AND SO THEN IT GOES INTO A BUNCH OF THE DIFFERENT USES AND CONDITIONS.
FARM AND RANCH DISTRICT ALLOWS DEVELOPMENT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE DIMENSION STANDARDS CONTAINED IN.
OF COURSE THE UDC ALL PERMITTED AND SPECIFICALLY PERMITTED USES IN FARM AND DISTRICT ARE IN OUR TABLE.
AND SO THOSE, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO OVER WITH HER INDIVIDUALLY, BUT IT DOES ALLOW SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES, UM, IN CERTAIN BUT IN ONLY IN CERTAIN WAYS.
AND SO THERE'S LIKE, EACH PROPERTY IS PERMITTED A MAXIMUM OF TWO ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.
THERE IS A SQUARE FOOTAGE, UH, REQUIREMENT AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
AND SO IT DEPENDS ON EXACTLY WHAT THE PROPERTY IS INTENDED TO BE USED FOR.
UM, MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICTS ARE NOT GOING TO BE PERMITTED IN THE FR DISTRICT.
SO, UM, IT'S, THERE'S A BUNCH THAT ANSWERED MY QUESTION, A BUNCH OF DETAILS THAT WE COULD GO OVER WITH YOU.
UM, IS THERE ANY KIND OF EXPIRATION DATE ON THAT? LIKE IT'S GONNA BE FARM AND RANCH FOR 10 YEARS AND THEN IT'S GONNA BE PROPOSED AGAIN? IT USUALLY, WE ALWAYS SAY THAT ZONING IS IN PERPETUITY, MEANING UNTIL IT'S CHANGED AGAIN.
SO IF IT'S ZONED FARM AND RANCH, YOU CAN ALWAYS COME BACK OR A FUTURE OWNER CAN ALWAYS COME BACK AND ASK FOR IT TO BE REZONED.
BUT IF IT'S NOT ASKED TO BE REZONED OR IF THERE'S NOT A, A LARGE AREA REZONING THAT THE CITY INSTITUTES THEN EL STATE FARM AND RANCH.
AND I BELIEVE I'M IN DISTRICT 3, 1 0 0 4.
ONE IS SPADA ROAD, WHICH IS MR. FUENTES, IS THAT CORRECT? I JUST WANTED TO ASK YOU IF YOU COULD GET MAYBE MORE INVOLVED AND HAVE A SMALL MEETING.
MAYBE AT THE MISSION IS SPADA, SO WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS COMES UP, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF ELDERLY PEOPLE, DISABLED PEOPLE, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THIS MEETING AT ALL.
AND EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT IN THE BUFFER ZONE, THEY'RE STILL ALL AFFECTED BY WHAT HAPPENS RIGHT BEHIND US.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IF I COULD GET YOUR INFORMATION AND WE CAN SCHEDULE THAT.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. ART AYALA.
I'M ART ALA ARTUR AYALA AT A PROPERTY AT 98.
I'M A NEIGHBOR TO GINA AND WE'RE ALL COUSINS AROUND THERE.
WE DIDN'T EVEN BREED, BUT WE'RE ALL COUSINS.
UH, I, I HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS THAT REGINA HAD AS FAR AS A SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
WHAT IS THE DENSITY THAT'S GONNA BE ALLOWED OR, OR LOT SIZES AND ALL THAT? BECAUSE WHAT I'VE SEEN IN ALL THE DEVELOPMENTS HERE, 10 FEET BETWEEN HOUSES AND THAT ALLOWS FOR A LARGE DENSITY OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
AND THAT'S A CONCERN BECAUSE OF TRAFFIC AND, AND, UH, THE MISSION UPON THE HISTORICAL
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MISSION IT HAS, AND I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND FULLY ALL THE ACRONYMS AND I'M FORMER MILITARY, BUT THESE ARE ALL NEW TO ME AND I READ 'EM.OKAY, SO IT MAKE PRIMARY RESIDENTIAL, IT WENT TO FARM AND RANCH.
WHAT IS THE BUFFER ZONE THAT I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND AND WHAT IS THE DISTANCE IN THE BUFFER ZONE? YEAH.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THAT RED? YEAH, THE DOTTED THE DOTTED RED LINE.
SO WHAT THE CITY DOES IS THAT'S A 200 FOOT BOUNDARY WHERE THE, THE CITY IS REQUIRED TO SEND NOTICES OF ANY CHANGE IN ZONING TO INDIVIDUALS WHOSE LOTS ARE WITHIN THOSE.
THAT'S ALL THAT MEANS IS THAT THOSE PEOPLE WITHIN THAT BOUNDARY LINE WE'RE NOTIFIED OF THE ZONING CHANGE.
AND THEN LAST WEEK SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT ELDERLY PEOPLE.
THAT'S ONE THAT SHE'S A, UH, REFERRING TO ME
AND THEN LAST WE HAVE MR. ROBERT MARTINEZ.
HI, HOW ARE Y'ALL? HI, I'M ROBERT MARTINEZ.
WE HAVE A PROPERTY IN THE, UH, AREA THREE LOCATION.
UM, THERE'S AMP EIGHT BEING ALL AROUND US.
SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN INGRESS, RESS TO GO IN AND OUT OF OUR PROPERTY THAT'S GONNA BE AFFECTED BY THE MP EIGHT ALONG I 35.
UM, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A ROADWAY THAT ALL OF ALL THE RESIDENTS AND THERE'S SOME HOUSES IN THERE THAT ARE BUILT, ARE BUILT ALREADY.
AND THAT IS THE ONLY IN ENTRANCE AND ALTRU.
SO WE'RE GONNA BE LANDLOCKED IF THERE'S MANUFACTURED HOMES UNLESS, UM, THERE'S A, A BIGGER DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GONNA ACTUALLY MAKE THAT AN ACTUAL STREET.
BUT CLARIFICATION, CLARIFICATION IS NEEDED TO ACTUALLY SAY YES OR NO ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
WE HAVE THIS MEDINA RIVER BEHIND US.
THERE'S NO IN OR OUT ON HERE, AND THERE IS NEIGHBORHOOD ROAD ON THE BACKSIDE, BUT THERE'S A BUNCH OF ME.
WE GOT PRODUCE PEOPLE THERE WITH, WITH, THERE'S LIKE A DUMPSTER BACK THERE.
THERE'S NO ACCESS TO THE ACTUAL, THE ACTUAL ROAD TO THE BACKSIDE BECAUSE THERE'S JUST SO MUCH DUMP ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD AND MUCH OF THAT TRASH IS GOING INTO THE MEDINA RIVER.
AND WE ALREADY COMPLAINED ONCE AND ONCE AGAIN AND AGAIN AND NOTHING EVER HAPPENS THAT IS TO THE PROPERTY NEXT TO US.
SO IF Y'ALL CAN REALLY LOOK INTO THAT AND FIND OUT, JUST SO WE WON'T GET LANDLOCKED INTO OUR PROPERTY.
AND YES, UH, REFERRING TO HIS QUESTION, UH, AREA THREE, THIS, THIS WILL NOT CHANGE THE ROADWAY OR ANYTHING.
THERE'S, AND THERE'S NO PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT THAT WE KNOW OF IN THESE PARCELS.
SO WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, CLINT, WE HAVE THIS MP EIGHT, WE HAVE AN ACTUAL ROADWAY THAT'S NOT CLARIFIED ON YOUR MAP HERE.
SO, SO IT'S NOT CLARIFIED IN IT JUST BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S ZONED, IT, IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE ROADWAY.
IT MAY NOT SHOW IT ON THE, ON THE PICTURE RIGHT HERE, BUT IT, IT'LL HAVE ZONING ON THE PROPERTY, BUT IT, THAT WON'T CHANGE YOUR ACCESS.
SO UPGRADES IS NOT GONNA CHANGE AT ALL.
EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT MARKED, YOUR ROADWAY IS NOT MARKED ON A MAP.
UM, THIS IS KIND OF BETWEEN DISTRICT THREE AND DISTRICT FOUR PRIMARILY.
SO DO WE WANNA START IN NUMERICAL ORDER? MAYBE DISTRICT THREE.
COMMISSIONER FUENTES, ANY QUESTIONS? SO I, I DID HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
IN AREA NINE AND 11, IT SHOWS THAT THERE'S A, SOME C TWO BEING PROPOSED.
GIVE YOU A SECOND TO GET UP THERE.
SO, UH, MY QUESTION IS, ARE THERE ANY CURRENT, UH, COMMERCIAL USES ON THOSE OPERATION ON THOSE? YES.
SO WHAT WAS THE RATIONALE BEHIND GOING TO C TWO ON THOSE? IS IT, WHAT'S THAT, SORRY? PROXIMITY.
IS IT PROXIMITY TO THE, THE MAJOR ROADS OR THERE'S SOME PROPOSED C TWO IN THERE.
IT'S, IT'S PROPOSED C TWO IN THAT ONE? YES.
AND, AND WHAT WAS THE RATIONALE FOR SWITCH TO OR ZONING THAT? TO, TO, UH, BECAUSE IT'S THIS, THIS ONE, UH, IN AREA NINE IS AROUND, UM, 37 AND 1604, AND IT'S DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM AND NEXT TO OTHER INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL.
AND THEN THE OTHER AREA, AREA 11, UH, WE'RE PROPOSING C TWO THERE BECAUSE IT'S AT A MAJOR INTERSECTION OF, OF ROADWAYS.
AND, UH, OFFHAND, DO YOU KNOW ANY OF THE CURRENT USES IN THOSE AREAS OR IS IT JUST VACANT? UH, THE, I KNOW IN, UM, FURTHER DOWN WHERE, UH, THE PROPOSED ZONING IS TO THE SOUTHEAST, I KNOW THERE'S, THERE'S NUMEROUS, UM, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS GOING IN THERE, UH, ACROSS 37
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ON THE OTHER SIDE FROM THIS PROPERTY IS ALL CURRENT COMMERCIAL.UH, NO FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR CITY STAFF.
JUST WOULD LIKE TO, UH, MAKE IT KNOWN THAT I'M VERY OPEN TO SETTING UP THOSE REGULAR MEETINGS, UH, THROUGH MYSELF AND, UH, THE DISTRICT THREE OFFICE.
UH, AFTER THIS MEETING, PLEASE COME TO ME AND I'LL SET UP THAT WITH Y'ALL.
UM, I BELIEVE WE ALSO HAVE OUR DISTRICT THREE REPRESENTATIVE, CHRIS VILLA, UH, IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM SO WE CAN, UH, ORGANIZE THAT.
UM, OTHER THAN THAT, I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
COMMISSIONER REYES QUESTIONS, UH, NO QUESTIONS, BUT I'LL ALSO WANT TO OFFER ANY INFORMATIONAL MEETINGS THAT, UH, DISTRICT FOUR RESIDENTS WOULD LIKE TO HAVE JUST GET WITH ME AFTER THE MEETING.
I SHOULD, IF I COULD TAKE THAT BACK REAL QUICK.
FOR THE PROPERTY IN AREA SEVEN, UH, PECAN FARM, IT'S CURRENTLY BEING PROPOSED FOR I'M, I'M SORRY, I HAVING SOME TROUBLE ZOOMING IN ON THIS.
WHAT'S THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE FOR THAT RESIDENTIAL RESIDENTIAL ESTATE? IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY OF, OF, UH, GIVING THAT TO, UH, FR JUST SO THAT, UH, NO, BECAUSE IT DOES NOT MEET THE, UH, SIZE REQUIREMENTS.
YEAH, THEY'RE ONLY 10 ACRE PROPERTIES.
BUT, BUT THE RESIDENTIAL ESTATE ALLOWS FOR THE CURRENT, UM, RESIDENTIAL HOMES LOCATED ON THE PROPERTY AND FOR THEM TO CONTINUE THEIR, THEIR AG USE.
WHICH THEY FARM ON, I MEAN, ON THE PROPERTY ITSELF.
COMMISSIONER, WE, ANY QUESTIONS? UH, NO.
COMMISSIONER FUENTES ASKED THE QUESTION I WAS GONNA ASK.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CHASE, ANY QUESTIONS? COMMERS ON MY LEFT.
ANY QUESTIONS? OH, COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE.
UM, THIS IS FOR STAFF WITH RESPECT TO THE CASE BROUGHT UP BY MS. OUN IN AREA EIGHT.
UM, SHE MENTIONED THAT THERE WAS A PLANNING, UH, YOU KNOW, A PLAN USE THERE THAT WOULDN'T ALLOW FOR THE USE, WHICH THEY, THEY WERE INTENDING FOR A MANUFACTURED HOME PARK.
CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT THAT? SO THE, THE CURRENT PROPOSED ZONING THERE DOES NOT ALLOW THAT? NO.
UH, IT IS PROPOSED TO BE RESIDENTIAL ESTATE IN ORDER TO GET, UH, ANY TYPE OF MANUFACTURED HOUSING OR LOWER DENSITY.
UH, IT WOULD ALSO REQUIRE A PLAN AMENDMENT, WHICH WAS NOT DONE ON IT.
SO SHOULD, OR RATHER, WHEN THIS GOES TO CITY COUNCIL, UM, WOULD THAT BE ABLE TO BE RESOLVED AT THAT POINT OR IS IT GOING TO BE A WHOLE NEW NO, IT WOULD, IT WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION FIRST AND THEN ZONING COMMISSION AGAIN AND CITY COUNCIL.
WHICH PARCEL IS IT? WHICH THAT, I'M SORRY, WHICH PARCEL IS IT? UH, THE, UH, THE ONE TO THE, UH, SOUTHWEST.
CAN YOU GIVE THE POINT? THE LARGE REDWOOD THE POINTER? IS IT THERE? THERE WE GO.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? NONE.
UM, COMMISSIONER FUENTES OR COMMISSIONER REYES? EITHER ONE OF YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION? UH, SURE.
UH, MR. CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, ZONE CASE 2 6 3, ITEM FOUR.
THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES.
UM, WE HAVE ANOTHER, UH, REPRESENTATIVE THAT WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST A CHANGE THAT THEY WEREN'T POSITIVE ON WHAT THEY NEEDED TO DO, BUT THEY NEED TO FORMALLY REQUEST A CHANGE.
UM, WE GOTTA DO THE, WE HAVE TO FINISH THE ROLL CALL VOTE, AND THEN WE CAN RECONSIDER AFTER THAT.
WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL VOTE AND THEN WE, DEPENDING ON THE RESULT OF THAT, WE WILL HAVE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER AND, AND CONSIDER THINGS.
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FOR, UM, CONTINUANCE.IS THERE MR. CHAIR, I MOVE? YES.
TO RECONSIDER ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
ALRIGHT, THERE'S A MOTION TO RECONSIDER ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
MAY WE HAVE A ROLL CALL? VOTE ON THAT, PLEASE.
I DIDN'T KNOW, I DIDN'T SEE WHO FIRST AND SECOND.
OH, FIRST THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER ANTE, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES.
I CAN'T, OKAY, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.
I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION TO RECONSIDER.
MOTION TO RECONSIDER BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
COMMISSIONER BARTO SECOND ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.
COULD WE HEAR THE PROPOSAL
UM, JAMES GRIFFIN TINTON ONE REUNION PLACE.
UM, SORRY, THAT'S WHAT WE, THAT'S ONE OF THE ONES WE WERE SUPPORTING EARLIER.
UH, IT WAS UP THERE ON THE POWERPOINT, UH, SLIDES.
SO THOUGHT IT WAS, THOUGHT IT WAS ALREADY IN THERE.
UM, SO THIS IS IN AREA 11, UH, BLUEING AND, AND SOUTHTON ROAD.
UM, PROPERTY NUMBER SIX ON THE LIST.
PROPERTY ID 1, 5 7, UH, 6 9 1.
UM, YEAH, THE ONE KIND OF FURTHEST TO THE LEFT THERE.
UM, GIVEN OUR OUR LIMITED ZONING OPTIONS FOR THE PLAN, UH, WE'D LIKE TO REQUEST BP ZONING THIS PROPERTY, WHICH I THINK WAS ON THE POWERPOINT DESCRIPTION THERE, BUT, UM, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
APRIL, YOU SAID B AS IN BALL? B BP AS IN BUSINESS PARK.
UH, QUESTION TO STAFF, IS THAT, WOULD THAT BE ALLOWED BY OUR CURRENT RANGE OF NOTIFICATIONS? YES.
THAT, THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE, UM, FUTURE LAND USE OF THE AREA AND IT WOULD BE ALLOWED AND, UH, WE ARE NOT OPPOSED TO IT.
UM, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT PARCEL IS THAT EXACTLY? SO THAT FOR ANY PAR ANY MOTION? IT'S NUMBER ONE.
AND THEY'RE REQUESTING BUSINESS PARK BP IN AREA 11.
UH, WE, WE WILL OPEN THIS UP FOR ANOTHER MOTION CHAIR.
BECAUSE PUBLIC COMMENT HAD ALREADY PREVIOUSLY CLOSED.
BEFORE YOU CONSIDER THIS, WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT YOU REOPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT JUST IN CASE THERE'S ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT.
UM, WE ARE GONNA REOPEN PUBLIC COMMENT IS, IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD WISH TO SPEAK ON, ON THAT PARCEL IN THE BACK? PERHAPS PLEASE.
HI, RAIN ON ITEM EIGHT? NO, WE'RE STILL ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
BASICALLY TO THE PROPOSAL THAT WA THAT WAS JUST MADE TO CHANGE A PARCEL IN AREA 11 TO, UH, BUSINESS PARK.
YOU ON THAT? ON THAT ITEM? OKAY.
IF YOU COULD COME UP AND, AND GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE.
AND JUST SO YOU'RE CLEAR, MA'AM, IT HAS TO PERTAIN TO THE PROPERTY THAT WAS JUST ADDRESSED.
THE, THIS AREA, THE ONE HE WAS TALKING ABOUT, NOT THE AREA, THE PROPERTY 1 5, 7, 6, 9 1.
WHICH IS IT? ON THE, ON THE, YEAH, IF WE COULD, IF WE COULD FAMILIAR, HAVE A POINTER TO SHOW EXACTLY WHICH ITEM THAT, WHICH PARCEL THAT IS.
IS IT THE GREEN ONE AT THE, OR THE RED ONE? THIS PROPERTY RIGHT HERE.
SO IT'S CLOSE TO THE DEWITT AREA.
AND THE BLUEING AREA, 'CAUSE I CAN'T SEE IT FROM HERE.
THIS IS ON THE CORNER OF SOUTH AND END BLUEING ROAD.
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NAME'S DIANA, DIANA VASQUEZ AND I LIVE AT 1 22 0 3 DEWITT AVENUE, WHICH IS, UH, RIGHT IN THE CENTER OF SOUTH END AND BLUE WING.UH, WE HAVE A, A WHOLE FAMILY AREA OF, UH, SIX OF US, AND I DIDN'T GET A NOTICE, BUT MY MOM LIVES RIGHT AT THAT CORNER OF BLUING AND SOUTH END AND SHE'S BEEN THERE SINCE 1965.
SHE'S ILL, SO SHE'S UNABLE TO ATTEND.
SO I DIDN'T FIND OUT TILL THE LAST MINUTE THAT THEY WERE, THIS WAS GOING ON.
I, AND I SAW AN ANNEXATION SIGN POSTED WAY AT THE FRONT OF BLUEING NEAR 37.
UM, WE SPOKE TO SOME OF THE FAMILIES SINCE WE ARE FAMILY IN THAT AREA.
AND, UH, THERE'S EIGHT FAMILIES THAT ARE OPPOSING THAT THEY, SOME OF, MOST OF 'EM DIDN'T GET A NOTICE.
MY SISTER IN THE CORNER OF WHITNEY AND SOUTH END, WHICH IS BLUEING RIGHT ADJACENT TO BLUEING.
AND SHE, UH, SHE'S AT WORK, SO SHE'S, SHE OPPOSED IT.
AND, UM, WE WEREN'T, LIKE I SAID, WE WERE NOT AWARE TILL THE LAST MINUTE I FOUND OUT THAT MY MOM HAD RECEIVED ONE, SHE WAS ILL.
AND I NOTICED THE, THE, THE FARM AND THAT'S WHY I'M HERE REPRESENTING THEM.
AND I KNOW THERE WAS SEVERAL OTHER FAMILIES THAT WERE OPPOSING BECAUSE IN THE BACK OF OUR PROPERTY, THERE'S, WE HAVE CATTLE IN THE BACK, THERE'S AREAS ALWAYS BEEN FARM LAND.
WE JUST RECENTLY STARTED GETTING BOMBARDED WITH SUBDIVISIONS FURTHER A MILE DOWN AND THEN A STREET THAT'S, THAT WAS JUST, UH, UH, UH, BUILT NOT TOO LONG AGO.
AND SO WE JUST, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT BEEN THERE FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
THERE ISN'T ANY COMMERCIAL THAT, UH, IN OUR AREA, THERE IS NO COMMERCIAL AND WE OPPOSE TO ANY COMMERCIAL THAT'S THERE AND WE WILL STAND, UH, THOSE EIGHT FAMILIES ARE GONNA STAND IN OPPOSING THAT AND FIGHT THAT BECAUSE THERE IS NO COMMERCIAL THERE.
WE'VE BEEN THERE FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
THERE USED TO BE JUST A LOT OF LAND FARMLAND AND THERE'S VERY LITTLE NOW WE'RE GETTING SQUEEZED IN.
THERE WAS, UH, UM, THE, UH, SAWS SEWAGE PLANT, THEY CLOSED IT, IT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF BLUEING, THEY CLOSED IT AND IT, IT'S VACANT AND THERE WAS ANOTHER AREA THAT'S VACANT AND THEY'RE SITTING THERE.
SO WE DO OPPOSE IT BECAUSE IT IS A LOT OF FAMILY OWNED THERE THAT WE'VE BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME.
AND ANY OTHER INDIVIDUAL WISH TO SPEAK ON THAT PARTICULAR PARCEL? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE.
OH, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? COMMISSIONER REYES FOR STAFF, WHAT IS SOUTHTON ROAD CLASSIFIED AS IN THE, UH, MDP? ALL RIGHT.
IN THE, UH, MAJOR FEDERAL AIRPLANE? YES.
UM, I BELIEVE IT'S AT SOUTH END ROAD.
BLUEING ROAD IS, UM, 120 FEET, UM, COLLECTOR.
SO THAT SUPPORTS BUSINESS PARK.
THAT TYPE OF THOROUGH, UH, THAT'S ON THE CORNER OF THE CORNER IS RIGHT HERE OF BLUING ROAD AND SOUTH END ROAD AND BLUE.
AND THIS IS THE PROPOSED BUSINESS PARK TO THE SOUTHWEST BUSINESS PARK.
AND SO NONE OF THE NEIGHBORS WERE NOTIFIED FROM THE CHANGE FROM FR TO BUSINESS PART.
THIS, UH, THEY WERE, THEY WERE NOTIFIED, UH, THAT THE STAFF PROPOSED TO BE FR BUT, UH, THE ZONING COMMISSION CAN TAKE REQUESTS INTO, INTO CONSIDERATION, UH, FOR REPRESENTATIVES OR, OR PROPERTY OWNERS BUT NOT BP.
THEY COULD TAKE, UH, YES, IT IS, IT IS IN THE, UH, THANK YOU.
IT IS IN THE, UM, IN THE FUTURE LAND USE, EXCUSE ME.
UH, THE BP IS ALLOWED IN THE, THE CURRENT FUTURE FEATURE LAND USE.
WHAT, WHAT IS LOCATED THERE? THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? AND SOUTHTON IS A SECONDARY ARTERIAL.
ANY, ANY QUESTIONS? OTHER COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT? OKAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.
UM, FLOOR IS OPEN FOR A MOTION AND IT CAN BE ANYONE CORRECT THAT CAN MAKE THE MOTION.
UH, MR. CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM FOUR AS AMENDED.
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THE ITEM AS AMENDED.ALRIGHT, UM, DISCUSSION COMM'S ON MY LEFT AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, MR. CHAIR AND, AND COMMISSIONER FUENTES, UH, THAT'S TO MAKE THE PROPERTY WITH THE BEAR COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT CODE 1 5 7 6 9 1.
THAT PARCEL NUMBER BP, THANK YOU FOR, FOR CATCHING THAT.
I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ITEM FOUR AS IT STANDS, NOT AMENDED AS IT WAS ORIGINALLY PRESENTED AS IT WAS ORIGINALLY PRESENTED.
UM, COMMISSIONER WHITSETT, YOU OKAY WITH THAT CLARIFICATION? YES.
DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER'S ON MY LEFT, JUST ONE COMMISSIONER OR JUST ONE COMMENT.
I JUST, PER THE LADY THAT GAVE THE COMMENT REGARDING, SHE HAD SOME FAMILY THAT LIVED BY THERE.
AND JUST TO CLARIFY, SHE'S, SHE WOULD BE, HER PROPERTY WOULD STAY AGGREGATED IF SHE DID HAVE CATTLE THERE, CORRECT? JUST SO SHE COULD UNDERSTAND AND THE CLARIFICATION? THAT'S CORRECT, YES.
SO SHE WOULD, UH, YOU WOULD HAVE ACCESS STILL TO YOUR CATTLE, YOUR CATTLE WOULDN'T CHANGE THE, THE LAND THAT YOU HAVE SET FORTH.
UM, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.
UM, I'M OF THE BELIEF THAT SUCH A, A CHANGE LIKE THAT, WHILE IT CAN BE HEARD AND AND APPROVED OR DENIED IN THE SETTING, SHOULD BE HEARD INDIVIDUALLY, UH, SO THAT WE GET SOME MORE COMMUNITY INPUT.
BELIEVE THAT, UH, CHANGE OF THAT MAGNITUDE SHOULD HAVE MORE COMMUNITY INPUT AND MORE NOTICE.
UH, SO I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING THAT, UH, IN THE FUTURE AND, UM, HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET MORE OF THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED IN THIS, THIS DECISION SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT IT'S SOUND FOR THIS AREA.
ANY OTHER, UH, COMMISSIONER REYES? OH, I THOUGHT YOU WERE REACHING FORWARD.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT DISCUSSION? UM, NONE.
UM, AND I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
SO THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE IT WITHOUT THE CHANGE TO, UH, BP FOR THAT PARCEL.
SO AS ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED, UH, MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES.
SECOND WAS, I FORGET WHO, WHO SECONDED THAT WHITSETT.
ALRIGHT, UM, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.
AND THANK YOU TO ALL THOSE WHO, WHO CAME OUT HERE.
UH, WE DON'T GET TO LOOK AT ANNEXATION VERY OFTEN ON THIS COMMISSION, SO I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE AND THANK YOU STAFF FOR HELPING US WORK THROUGH ALL OF THAT AS WELL.
UH, WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO ITEM SEVEN.
MY NAME IS ADOLFO GONZALEZ, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS LOCATED AT 1621 SOUTH CALLAHAN GOING FROM R SIX AND C TWO TO C TWO NACD COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT WITH THE CONDITION USE FOR TRUCK REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE WITH OVERSIZED VEHICLE STORAGE.
THERE WERE 56 NOTICES SENT OUT.
THREE IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND ONE IN FAVOR OUTSIDE 200 FEET.
THE CURRENT R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY AND C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT ZONINGS ARE APPROPRIATE FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE EXISTING C TWO IS LOCATED ALONG SOUTH CALLAHAN ROAD, ALLOWING MORE COMMERCIAL USES CLOSER TO THE SOUTH CALLAHAN AND OLD HIGHWAY 90 INTERSECTION AND CREATES A BUFFER FOR THE RESIDENTIAL USES FROM THE ARTERIAL ROADWAYS.
THE PROPOSED C TWO NACD COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC HOUSE DISTRICT WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR TRUCK REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE AND OVERSIZED VEHICLE STORAGE IS NOT APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THE ESTABLISHED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES WOULD BE ADVERSELY IMPACTED WITH THE INTRODUCTION OF THE INDUSTRIAL USE AND POTENTIAL HIGH AMOUNT OF TRUCK TRAFFIC WITH THAT WOULD ACCESS OFF.
CALLAHAN ROAD STAFF FINDS EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST, THE PROPOSED REZONING WOULD ALLOW A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USE ADJACENT INTO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES AND ZONING STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
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WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE.IS THERE ANY CALL-INS? WAS THERE ANY CALL-INS? WE DO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
RERA 9 0 0 6 MINT JULIP, US NAVY VETERAN, FORMER CITY COUNCILMAN.
I JUST WANNA HELP OUT A NEIGHBOR IN NEED.
SO I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF 1621 SOUTH CALLAHAN ROAD.
HE WAS DRIVING IN FROM CARRERO THAT'S 24 HOURS AWAY.
HE IS ON HIS WAY AND I TOLD HIM, DON'T RUSH, TAKE YOUR TIME.
BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING, UH, THIS IS BROUGHT BEFORE ZONING PRIOR, BUT IT WAS PULLED ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.
BEING THAT WE HAVE A STRONG BACKING FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY, NOW WE'RE FOCUSED ON THE PROPERTY OF MR. BETTE ORGA AT 1621 SOUTH CALLAHAN.
THE PROPERTY IS SPANNING IS 6.73 ACRES AS DESCRIBED IN NBC 1 3 9 4 2 CURRENTLY HOSE ZONING OF R SIX.
LAST TIME IT WAS REZONED WAS IN 1962.
THAT'S WHEN IT WAS CHANGED FROM R ONE TO R SIX.
AND BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING IS C TWO CDNA WITH RESTRICTIONS.
THEY KEEP SAYING MECHANICAL WORK AND OIL CHANGES.
THIS URGENTLY IS PROPOSAL RISES THE PRESSURE OF WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY, THE SAN ANTONIO EXISTING ORDINANCE IN SECTION 19,142 D PROHIBITS OVERSIZED VEHICLES, PARKING AND RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
THEIR FINES START AT $50 TO $500.
THIS PARTICULAR AREA ON 38TH STREET IN CALLAHAN, WHICH I'M FAMILIAR WITH, UH, KIND OF GREW UP IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THEY CAN'T AFFORD FINES LIKE THAT.
SO BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING IS TRYING TO HELP THE AREA OUT AND DO WHAT WE CAN TO HAVE IT REZONED.
I DO HAVE A UNDER MIGUEL OR I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF SLIDES TO SHOW YOU.
AND MR. ORTEGA IS PROPOSING THE AREA IS STRICTLY A TIRE SHOP EXCLUSIVELY FOR 18 WHEELERS ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS PARTICULAR AREA, YOU HAVE PRIME DISTRIBUTORS, WHICH IS PRIME THAT GOES TO YOUR HOUSE AND LEAVES OFF PACKAGES.
AND ABOVE THAT, RIGHT NEXT TO IT IS MILLER LIGHT BEER GLACIERS THEIR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL THEMSELVES.
AND ALL THIS INDIVIDUAL'S TRYING TO DO IS DO THE RIGHT THING.
HE BOUGHT, HE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY IN 2007 AND AFTER LOOKING AT HIS CONTRACT, THEY SOLD 'EM THE PROPERTY SAYING THAT THEY COULD BILL WHATEVER THEY WANT.
AND APPARENTLY THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
SO WE TRIED TO KNOCK DOWN THE GUY THAT SOLD IT TO 'EM, SOLD 'EM THE PROPERTY WITH THE INVESTORS, WHICH IS BE THE ORTEGA FAMILY.
THEY SAY HE NO LONGER RECITES.
HERE WE HAVE UP ABOVE AND THE OVERHEAD, THAT ONE THAT YOU JUST SHOWED, YOU HAVE A UP ABOVE OVER HERE.
YOU HAVE, UH, THIS PORTION OVER HERE IS WHERE THE TIRE SHOP IS GENERATING RIGHT NOW.
THE ROAD OVER HERE IS THIS CALLAHAN ROAD, ACROSS THE STREET, LIKE I SAID, IS THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS PRIME, AND IN THE CORNER OF THAT WOULD BE MILLER LIGHT BEER DISTRIBUTORS.
THERE'S OVER 318 WHEELERS IN THE AREA ALREADY.
THIS PROPERTY FROM HERE TO HERE, SIR, YOU NEED TO KEEP SPEAKING INTO THE MICROPHONE SO WE CAN HEAR THIS PROPERTY FROM HERE TO HERE.
BUTTED UP TO THE RESIDENTIAL AREA.
KEEPS GETTING CITED RIGHT AROUND HERE IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA THAT DOES NOT BELONG TO MR. ORTEGA.
MR. ORTEGA OWNS THIS PROPERTY ALL THE WAY DOWN OVER HERE TO THE STREET OF CALLAHAN ANN.
AND YOU CAN CONTINUE TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
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HE PURCHASED THE AREA IN 2007, KEEP GOING TO THE NEXT ONE.AS YOU CAN SEE STARTING RIGHT HERE, THEY DO NOT HAVE, THEY, THEY RUN ON A GENERATOR SO THERE'S HARDLY ANY NOISE BACK THERE IN THE BACK.
AS YOU CAN SEE, HE'S TAKING THE TIRE OFF.
THAT TAKES APPROXIMATELY 15 TO 20 MINUTES JUST TO DISMANTLE IT FROM THE RIM ITSELF AND REPAIR WHATEVER NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED.
AND BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING, WE'RE ASKING, WE ARE ASKING, UH, ZONING COMMISSION TO PLEASE CONSIDER THIS.
THIS IS GOING FROM R SIX TO CD.
IT'S GOING FROM R SIX TO C TWO CD SLASH NA NON-ALCOHOL WITH RESTRICTIONS.
NO MECHANICAL WORK, NO OIL CHANGES STRICTLY FOR 18 WHEELERS CHANGING OF THEIR TIRES.
UH, AGAIN, UNFORTUNATELY, MR. ORTEGA IS NOT HERE.
UM, WE'RE IN YOUR, WE'RE IN YOUR HANDS.
BUT LIKE I SAID, ALL HE'S TRYING TO DO, ALL HE'S TRYING TO DO IS DO THE RIGHT THING.
NOW, HE DID HIRE AN ATTORNEY TWO YEARS AGO.
I GO, HOW MUCH DID YOU PAY THOSE ATTORNEYS? 7,500.
THEY COULDN'T DO ANYTHING WITH IT.
HE LIVES A FEW DOORS DOWN FROM ME.
HIS DAUGHTER LIVES 10 HOUSES DOWN FROM ME.
AND I SAID, WHO'S THIS FOR YOUR DAD? HE LIVES ON ATHENS STREET.
AND I TOLD HIM, WHY DON'T YOU GO TO MELISSA'S HOUSE? HE LIVES DOWN THE ROAD OVER THE NET SUBDIVISION.
HE SAYS, NO, I KNOW YOU PLEASE HELP ME.
SO I'M JUST OUT REACHING OUT TO HIM AND TRYING TO HELP HIM DO THE RIGHT THING FROM R SIX C TWO CD SLASH NA.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE THE ROAD, IT'S A PAPER ROAD, BUT HE PAVED IT HIMSELF.
THE TREES ARE ALL UP AND DOWN.
IT'S A TOTAL OF 800 YARDS TO THE BACK, 800 YARDS.
HE'S KEPT THOSE TREES CLEAN, CLIPPED, PURGED, ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
THERE'S SOMETHING BEHIND IT THAT BELONGS TO THE CITY.
SO HE'S BEEN MAINTAINING THIS FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS.
ANY QUESTIONS I'M SURE WE WILL ASK.
OH, AND AND I I DO HAVE, UH, THERE WAS LAST TIME THEY WERE HERE, 24 NOTICES WERE MAILED OUT.
FOUR CAME BACK AND MS. CHAVARRIA AND COMPANY CAME BEFORE YOU GUYS, I DON'T KNOW, IT WAS, IF YOU ALL ARE THE SAME ONES, BUT YOU CAME BEFORE YOU, MR. ILLA WAS ALL AGAINST IT.
NOW SAME FOUR PEOPLE PLUS, PLUS 42 MORE PEOPLE ARE FOR IT.
THIS WILL BE IMPLEMENTED FOR THE RECORD.
SO I HAVE A TOTAL OF 49, 56, 50 PEOPLE THAT SIGNED THESE THINGS THAT ARE, THAT ARE ALL FOR IT.
THERE WAS 56 WENT OUT, ZERO CAME BACK ZERO.
SO I WANT TO IMPLEMENT THIS FOR THE RECORD.
WHO DO I GIVE THIS TO? STAFF? SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY.
I MEAN, UH, WE KNOCKED ON MANY A DOOR OUT THERE.
AND NOW MS. CHAD AND COMPANY, THE ONLY REASON WHY SHE WENT AGAINST IT THE LAST TIME SHE THOUGHT MR. CHAVARRIA ORTEGA HAD OWNED ALL THAT PROPERTY BACK THERE.
BUT IT UP TO THEM, THOSE WERE THE PROBLEMS LIE.
I SAID, THAT'S NOT YOUR PROPERTY.
AND I, I, I TOOK MS. CHAVARRIA, UH, TO THE BACK AND SHE SAID, WELL, I, WE THOUGHT HE OWNED ALL OF IT.
I GO, NOPE, HE OWNS ALL THAT IN THE BACK OVER THERE.
AND I KNOW THAT THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T THAT HAVE THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY, THEY
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LIVE IN MEXICO, THEY LEASED IT OUT AND NOW IT'S LIKE A PICK AND PULL.I GO, THEY'RE NOT EVEN SUPPOSED TO BE THERE DOING THAT, WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
SO NOW ANY QUESTIONS I'M HERE TO ANSWER.
UH, DO WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? YES, WE DO HAVE VOICEMAILS.
ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HEAR THOSE PLEASE.
HELLO? UH, MY NAME IS A AND I'M LIVING ON MAJO DRIVE, UH, 26 57 MAJO DRIVE.
AND I'M, UH, UM, CALLING REGARDING, UH, MIGUEL ORTEGA.
AND THE UH, ING NUMBER IS GONNA BE, UH, KEN 10 70 0 0 91.
AND I'M OKAY WITH THE RESIGNING.
MY ADDRESS 1601 GINA ROAD, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS.
UH, THE CASE NUMBER, THE LAST 3 0 9 1, THE COMPLETE NUMBER IS Z 2 23 1 0 7 0 0 9 1.
I'M CALLING ON BEHALF OF THAT CASE.
UH, I DO ACCEPT THE REZONING OF THE CASE AND, UH, THEY'RE UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE PERFECT NEIGHBORS.
AND THAT'S IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
ALRIGHT, DID YOU WANNA RESPOND TO THOSE COMMENTS AT ALL? NO, NOT AT ALL.
THIS IS A DISTRICT, UH, SIX K.
SO COMMISSIONER WE FOR TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS.
UH, SO QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
UH, YOU SAID THAT, UH, YOUR CLIENT HAS BEEN IN OPERATIONS SINCE 2007, IS THAT RIGHT? NO, HE'S BEEN IN OPERATION.
HE STARTED FOUR AND A HALF YEARS AGO.
AND DID HE KNOW THEN THAT HE WAS NOT IN COMPLIANCE? NO, BECAUSE HIS CONTRACT REASON, WHEN HE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY, THE REAL ESTATE PERSON TOLD HIM HE COULD DO WHATEVER HE WANTS BECAUSE HE WAS IN A WOODED AREA BACK IN THE BACK.
AND THEN YOU ALSO MENTIONED THAT UH, HE OWNS A PRIVATE ROAD, IS THAT RIGHT? YES.
AND YOU SAID IT WAS PAVED, HE, WHAT DO YOU CALL THAT? UH, BLACK TAR AND JUST, NO, I'VE GIVE, I'VE GIVEN THAT ROAD.
WHAT IS IT? IT'S JUST DIRT COMPACT? NO, NO, IT'S COMPACT DIRT WITH BLACK, WITH BLACK ROCK ON IT.
WHAT DO YOU CALL THAT? ALRIGHT, LET'S IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK IT UP RIGHT NOW, OKAY, LET'S, LET'S GO ON.
SO YOU MENTIONED THAT YOUR CLIENT WANTS TO HAVE A TIRE SHOP AND STORAGE.
AND THAT WOULD BE OVERNIGHT STORAGE COME AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE OVERNIGHT STORAGE, IS THAT RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT.
AND WHAT ARE HIS, UH, CURRENT HOURS OF OPERATION? THEY CAN START ANYWHERE BETWEEN SEVEN 30 TO SIX 30 IN THE EVENING.
AND THE DAYS OF OPERATION, IT'D BE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.
NO WEEKEND, NO WEEKEND STORAGE? NO, THEY, THESE GUYS, THESE TRUCKERS THAT PARK BEHIND THERE, THEY WORK FOR DIFFERENT CONTRACTORS.
THEY GO PICK UP MATERIALS IN DALLAS, HOUSTON, MACALLAN, BRONZEVILLE, BRING IT BACK TO SAN ANTONIO AND THEY COME BACK AND THEY PARK THEIR VEHICLES THERE OVERNIGHT.
UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M GONNA OPEN UP MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS ASK ANY QUESTIONS.
ALRIGHT, UH, QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.
UH, ACTUALLY A QUESTION FOR STAFF, UH, WITH PARKING, THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS IS MAXIMUM ONE PER 375 SQUARE FEET, CORRECT? THAT'S WITH A BUILDING FOOTPRINT.
IT'S GONNA DEPEND ON THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING.
IF YOU LOOK AGAIN AT THAT PHOTO BACK IN THE BACK, IT'S NOT A BUILDING, IT'S JUST A, IT'S A, A HUGE 30 BY 60 TOP.
THERE'S NO BUILDING THERE AT ALL.
SO MY QUESTION WOULD BE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN ANSWER IT RIGHT NOW, BUT ARE WE EXCEEDING THE MAXIMUM PARKING FOR THIS, UH, APPLICATION CURRENTLY BECAUSE OF THE 18 WHEELERS BEING PARKED ON THE PROPERTY, THAT IS WHAT HE'S TRYING TO GET IN CONFORMANCE TO.
HE, IN ORDER TO PARK THE VEHICLES ON THE PROPERTY AND HAVE THE STOR THAT STORAGE AND THE REPAIR THAT THEY'RE DOING ON THE TIRES, THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THE ZONING FOR IT, BUT IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T AFFECT THE PARKING REQUIREMENT.
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QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.SO I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED THIS QUESTION IS FOR STAFF, UM, WITH RESPECT TO THE SITE PLAN BECAUSE THIS IS A CONDITIONAL USE, CORRECT? YES SIR.
THEY WOULD BE BOUND TO THE SITE PLAN? YES SIR.
UM, I'M COUNTING I THINK 37 18 WHEELERS ON THAT GIVE OR TAKE.
SO WOULD THAT MEAN THAT THEY WOULD BE LIMITED TO THAT NUMBER NO MATTER WHAT THE 37 WOULD BE THE MAXIMUM OR WHATEVER THE ACTUAL NUMBER IS IT? NO, NOT NECESSARILY BECAUSE THEY GET TO UTILIZE THE ENTIRE PROPERTY FOR TRUCK.
REPAIR, MAINTENANCE AND STORAGE.
AND, AND IF I MAY INTERVENE ON THAT.
MM-HMM,
THAT OTHER ACREAGE DOES NOT BELONG TO 'EM.
UM, ALRIGHT STAFF TO YOU FOR THAT.
IS THERE SOME NOTATION WE CAN PUT ON THE SITE PLAN TO LIMIT THEM TO 25? I'M GONNA DEFER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE BECAUSE, UM, IF YOU'RE ALLOWED THAT USE IN THAT DISTRICT, YOU, YOU'RE ALLOWED WHATEVER MAXIMUM THAT GIVES YOU, I WOULD SAY IN HOW IT'S DESIGNATED ON THE SITE PLAN.
IF THERE IS ONLY A SPECIFIC AREA DESIGNATED FOR PARKING, NO MATTER HOW MANY SPACES ARE IN THAT AREA, THEN THEY WOULD BE LIMITED TO PARKING IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA.
SO MR. RETA TO YOU, NOW WITH RESPECT TO THIS, IF WE WERE TO REQUEST A LIMIT FOR THE PARKING, SORT OF IN WHATEVER THAT IRREGULAR SHAPE IS WHERE THERE ARE CURRENTLY, UH, RIGS INDICATED, WOULD THAT BE ACCEPTABLE TO YOUR CLIENT? YES.
THERE THEY ALL HE MS TO ORTEGA WANTS TO DO IS COMPLY WITH WHATEVER HIS NEEDS ARE IN THE AREA.
THE VERY FIRST ONE MORE? NO, MAYBE NOT.
I THINK THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONS ON MY LEFT.
SEEING THEN I HAD A QUESTION AND THAT'S FOR THE APPLICANT.
UM, WHEN YOU SAY THE OVERSIZED VEHICLES ARE PARKING THERE OVERNIGHT, UH, I GUESS WHAT TIME DO THEY ARRIVE AND WHAT TIME WOULD THEY LEAVE? I MEAN, IS IT, IT IT ALL DEPENDS.
WHEN THEY TAKE OFF ANYWHERE BETWEEN SIX 30 AND SEVEN 30, SOME OF THEM HAVE TO GO FURTHER.
A LOT OF 'EM GO THROUGH TO FORT WORTH AND DALLAS.
AND WHEN THEY GO TO THE VALLEY, THEY GO FROM MACALLAN ALL THE WAY TO BRONZEVILLE AND BACK HERE AND A REGULAR VEHICLE THAT'S SEVEN OUT SIX AND A HALF HOUR, SEVEN HOUR DRIVE.
BUT ON AN 18 WHEELER THEY'RE LIMIT IT.
NOW THEY CAN ONLY GO 55 AND 60, SO IT TAKES LONGER FOR THEM TO GET BACK.
SO ONCE THEY'RE BACK, THEY COME BACK ANYWHERE BETWEEN SIX 30 AND 7 30, 8 30 THE LATEST AND THEN IN THE MORNING THEY WOULD LEAVE NO EARLIER THAN SIX 30.
COMMISSIONER WHITSETT, UH, THE PROPERTY THAT YOU SAY IS BEING USED ILLEGALLY THAT HE DOESN'T OWN, DO THEY ACCESS OFF HIS STREET? THERE'S TWO SIDES OF THIS PERIMETER RIGHT HERE.
IF YOU'VE BEEN OUT THERE, THERE'S TWO SIDES OF THIS, UH, ONE SIDE THAT BELONGS TO THE INNER PART RIGHT HERE.
AND HIS TRUCKS AND STUFF ARE NOT ALLOWED.
IF YOU GO OVER THERE, THERE'S AN IRON GATE OUT HERE.
THERE'S TWO SIDES GOING IN HIS SIDE.
IS THIS SIDE OVER HERE NOW THE OTHER PART OVER THERE, WHETHER THEY GO IN OR NOT, I'M NOT THERE EVERY DAY TO NOTICE THAT, TO TO VERIFY THAT.
SO YOU DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY OTHER ACCESS FOR THEM OTHER THAN OFF OF THERE? THERE'S ONLY ONE AXIS THROUGH CALLAHAN ROAD.
AND JUST TO CLARIFY, COMMISSIONER MUSMAN IS, UM, COMMENTS, THERE IS PARKING LOCATIONS INDICATED ON THIS SITE PLAN, SO THAT WOULD BE ADEQUATE PER CITY ATTORNEY'S INSTRUCTIONS.
SO THANK YOU MS. FLORES, THAT THAT WOULD BE ADEQUATE TO INDICATE WHERE PARKING WOULD BE ALLOWED.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? ALRIGHT, UH, COMMISSIONER REYES
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FOLLOW UP QUESTION ON THE, THE TRUCK.UM, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY MAXIMUM NUMBER OF TRIPS THIS LOCATION WOULD GENERATE PER DAY? I, NO, I DIDN'T, I CAN'T ANSWER THAT.
UH, ALL I KNOW IS THAT HE TELLS ME THAT THEIR SPOUSES DROP 'EM OFF IN THE MORNING.
THEIR SPOUSE, WHEN THEY COME IN, THEIR SPOUSES ARE THERE TO PICK 'EM UP.
I KNOW IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY JUST ONCE A DAY IF THEY'RE GOING OUT OF TOWN AND BACK.
BUT HOW MANY DAYS A WEEK? I, I CAN'T ANSWER THAT.
WELL, IT WAS HOW MANY TRIPS PER DAY? UH, PER DAY? MM-HMM.
I JUST BASICALLY ONE OR ZERO DEPENDS ON THE CONTRACT THAT THEY GET FROM THE BIG COMPANIES.
UM, COMMISSIONER, WE, YEAH, I HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION.
SO SINCE YOUR CLIENT OWNS THAT PROPERTY WHERE THE, UH, PRIVATE ROAD RUNS, CAN HE NOT TELL THESE OTHER PEOPLE NOT TO DRIVE ON THIS PRIVATE ROAD? DEFINITELY.
AND THE ONLY REASON WHY I SAY THAT FOR SURE IS BECAUSE HE DOESN'T GET ALONG WITH HIM.
AND I ASK HIM, HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS MAN? HE SAYS, THAT'S MY EX-BROTHER-IN-LAW AND WE DON'T GET ALONG.
THAT'S WHY HE, HE CAN'T FORCE THAT.
SO YOU MENTIONED THERE WERE TWO SIDES OF THE ROAD AND I JUST CAN'T SEE HOW THERE'S TWO LANES IN THAT, UH, DIRT ROAD.
IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE PICTURE, IT LOOK ONLY, LOOKS LIKE IT'S ONLY WIDE ENOUGH FOR A TRUCK.
AND POSSIBLY I ASKED THAT SPECIFIC QUESTION.
IF YOU LOOK ON HIS SIDE, ONE TRUCK CAN COME IN AND ONE TRUCK CAN GO OUT.
BUT IF YOU LOOK ON THE OTHER SIDE, THERE'S ROOM FOR A TRUCK TO COME IN ON THIS SIDE.
BUT I IF PASSED, I WILL MAKE SURE THAT HE ACTUALLY ENFORCES THAT THE OTHER PEOPLE ON THE OTHER SIDE USE THEIR SIDE, NOT HIS SIDE.
AND I'M JUST SAYING THAT I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THEY DO OR DON'T.
'CAUSE I'M NOT THERE AT SIX 30 IN THE MORNING.
OKAY, COMMISSIONER, WE TO YOU FOR A MOTION.
SO AS YOU REMEMBER, WE HAD A VERY SIMILAR CASE TO THIS WHERE WE HAD OVERSIZED VEHICLE, UH, IS BEING WORKED ON, UH, NEXT TO A NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND, UH, THAT APPLICATION WAS OVERWHELMINGLY OPPOSED BY THAT, UH, DISTRICT SEVEN NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND, UH, THE ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED DENIAL FOR THAT CASE.
AND THIS APPLICATION IS ALSO FOR OVERSIZED VEHICLE, BUT FOR REPAIR AND STORAGE.
AND BUT TO ACCESS THIS FACILITY, THESE OVERSIZED VEHICLES NEED TO RUN RIGHT BEHIND A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THIS ONE IS IN DISTRICT SIX.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, READING THE, UH, THE STAFF REPORT, THE STAFFERS RECOMMENDED DENIAL AND PLANNING ALSO RANG, RECOMMENDED DENIAL.
BUT IF I MAY INTERVENE ON THAT CERTAIN MR. CHAIR, HE'S, HE'S IN THE MIDDLE OF HIS DISCUSSION.
SO I'VE READ THE REASONS THAT LED TO THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND THEY'VE DONE A VERY GOOD JOB.
AND I BELIEVE THE RECOMMENDATION IS CONSISTENT WITH PROPER LAND USE.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE ALSO PREVIOUSLY DENIED AN OVERSIZED VEHICLE BUSINESS IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD IN DISTRICT SEVEN.
AND I THINK WE SHOULD BE, AND I BELIEVE THIS COMMISSION NEEDS TO BE CONSISTENT AND ALSO DENY AN OVERSIZED VEHICLE BUSINESS IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD IN DISTRICT SIX.
AND WITH THAT, MR. CHAIR, I MOVE FOR DENIAL.
ALRIGHT, SO THE MOTION IS FOR DENIAL.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
UH, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER ON MY RIGHT.
CAN I SAY SOMETHING FOR THE RECORD? UH, NO, NOT AT, NOT AT THIS TIME.
THANK YOU, UH, COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE DISCUSSION.
UM, SO I APPRECIATE THAT THE APPLICANT AND THEIR REPRESENTATIVE HAS DONE A GREAT DEAL OF WORK, APPARENTLY, 'CAUSE I DO RECALL, UH, THIS CASE PREVIOUSLY AND I, I SEE A GOOD NUMBER OF HEADS BOBBING ALONG WITH ME.
UM, THAT BEING SAID, UM, YOU KNOW, I I THINK THIS GOT CLOSER.
IT HAD THE LOCAL COMMUNITY SUPPORT, BUT GIVEN THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE CONSIDERATIONS, GIVEN, YOU KNOW, THE TIMES THAT THIS PROPERTY WOULD BE USED WITH VERY LARGE VEHICLES, UM,
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I'M GONNA DEFER TO THE COMMISSIONER AND SUPPORT THE MOTION.ALRIGHT, UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? NONE.
UM, AND, AND I WILL AGREE WITH ALL THAT'S BEEN SAID.
UM, I, I, I SALUTE THE, THE APPLICANT AND FOR WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO GET SUPPORT FOR OF, OF PEOPLE.
UM, I BELIEVE IT'S A BETTER VERSION THAN, THAN PREVIOUSLY.
UM, BUT FOR ME, I CAN'T GET OVER THE DOZENS OF TRIPS THAT WILL HAPPEN OF 18 WHEELERS DIRECTLY BEHIND A NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND, UM, I UNDERSTAND ACROSS THE STREET, ACROSS THE, THE MAJOR ROAD THAT YES, THERE'S SOME INDUSTRIAL USES, BUT THEY'RE NOT ADJACENT TO, UH, UM, A NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND SO I'LL ALSO BE SUPPORTING THE, THE MOTION FOR DENIAL WITH THAT.
THE MOTION FOR DENIAL IS MADE BY COMMISSIONER WEE.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES.
CAN I SAY SOMETHING FOR THE RECORD? OKAY.
JUST FOR THE RECORD, THE LAST ONE THAT, THAT WASN'T PAST THREE MONTHS AGO, YOU CAN'T COMPARE PRU ROAD BABCOCK TO THOSE $250,000 HOMES TO THESE $40,000 HOMES OVER HERE.
THAT THAT'S A MAJOR, MAJOR DIFFERENCE.
AND, BUT ANYWAY, WE WILL TRY AGAIN.
I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE, BUT THANK YOU WITH THAT ASSESSMENT.
ALRIGHT, OUR NEXT CASE YOU'LL HAVE TO, OH WAIT, IT'S, SHE'S, I'VE GOT A, A STRANGE LOOK LIKE IT'S 3 0 4 AND WE HAVEN'T TAKEN OUR THREE O'CLOCK BREAK.
DO WE WANNA TAKE A THREE O'CLOCK? OUR THREE O'CLOCK BREAK? YES.
WE'LL STAND IN RECESS FOR 10 MINUTES.
ALRIGHT, WELCOME BACK EVERYONE.
IT IS THREE 16 ZONING COMMISSION OF SAN ANTONIO'S BACK IN SESSION.
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO RMM FOUR WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 4 37 AARON STREET, 28 NOTICES WERE SENT OUT, ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR.
ONE WAS NEUTRAL, SEVEN OPPOSED.
THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM HARLANDALE MCCOLLUM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, BUT OUTSIDE 200 FEET, WE DID RECEIVE ANOTHER 46 IN OPPOSITION.
UM, THE PROPOSED RMM FOUR RESIDENTIAL MIXED DISTRICT.
WE STAFF DOES NOT FIND APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DWELLINGS WITH A SCATTERING OF R SIX CD RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT WITH CONDITIONAL USES FOR EITHER A DUPLEX OR A FOURPLEX.
STAFF RECOMMENDS KEEPING THE R SIX BASE ZONING DISTRICT AND ADDING A CONDITIONAL USE FOR THREE DWELLING UNITS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH ZONING WITHIN PROXIMITY AND APPLYING ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS SUBJECT TO A SITE PLAN.
THE SITE IS LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF STREETS, ABUTTING ON TWO SIDES TO BETTER ACCOMMODATE ACCESS FOR THE ADDITIONAL UNITS.
AND THE REQUEST ALSO ALIGNS WITH THE GOALS OF THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN TO INCREASE HOUSING STOCK TO MEET THE GROWING POPULATION NEEDS.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL WITH AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION FOR OUR SIX CD RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR THREE DWELLING UNITS AND OWNER IS PRESENT FOR QUESTIONS.
ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE.
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SO THAT MAKES US CHANGE DRAMATICALLY.SO IT IS, THE STRATEGY IS NO LONGER FITS AND FLIP RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TO BUY AND WHOLE.
BUT FOR BAY AND HALL, WE WAS ANALYZING THAT WE REQUIRED LIKE AT LEAST HAVE, UH, FOUR UNITS IN THE AREA.
UM, SO WE ARE NOT GOING TO, TO BUILD NOTHING NEW.
BASICALLY IT'S DIVIDED SYSTEM PROPERTY IN THREE AND THERE IS AN, UH, IN THE BACKYARD THERE IS AN, UM, DEACH DETACHED A LITTLE HOUSE.
SO BASICALLY I'M GOING TO REBUILD AND DIVIDE THE EXISTING PROPERTY AND THAT'S IT.
UH, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON WE DO, UM, MR. CHARLES BASS.
BASS, MR. BASS, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME UP, IF YOU JUST WANNA SIT DOWN, WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU IN A MINUTE.
UH, I'LL LIVE AT 4 3 4 AARON PLACE, SAN ANTONIO, 7 8 2 2 1.
AND DISTRICT THREE, I HAVE LIVED THERE SINCE I WAS TWO YEARS OLD.
OTHER PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE LIVED THERE ALMOST AS LONG AS I HAVE UP INTO 40 AND 60 YEARS.
EVERYTHING HAPPENED UP AND DOWN THAT STREET AND IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE HAVE AN APARTMENT HOUSE AT 400 ERRAND.
IT'S GOT THREE APARTMENTS IN IT, DRUGS, GUNSHOTS, EVERYTHING YOU CAN IMAGINE WITH THOSE THREE APARTMENTS AND ARE ALWAYS DESTROYED.
WE HAVE ANOTHER SET OF APARTMENTS AT 5 0 2 AARON, TWO DOORS FROM WHERE I LIVE.
IT'S THE SAME THING OVER THERE.
THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER APARTMENT AT 5 22 5 DOORS DOWN ON THE SOUTH SIDE, WHICH THEY JUST GOT TWO WANTED GUYS OUT OF IT.
AND THEY'RE SELLING NARCOTICS OUT OF IT RIGHT NOW.
THAT'S FOUR APARTMENTS DOWN THERE.
I THINK WE'VE JUST GOT ENOUGH APARTMENTS.
I'VE GOT 74 PEOPLE HERE IN FIVE AND A QUARTER PAGES, EXCUSE ME, FIVE AND A QUARTER PAGES THAT DON'T WANT THIS APARTMENT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S GONNA BE NOTHING BUT CRIME.
WE ALREADY HAVE OUR SHARE OF CRIME IN HERE.
WHEN THIS APARTMENT HOUSE COMES IN, THERE WILL BE A, A BAD THING FOR PARKING.
THEN YOU'RE GONNA UP THE TRAFFIC THAT WE ALREADY HAVE RIGHT NOW.
THEY'RE DRAG RACING DOWN THAT STREET, 80 AND 85 MILES AN HOUR, AND THAT'S THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE ON THAT STREET.
AND THE ONES THAT CUT THROUGH FROM PLEASANT'S COMMERCIAL TO GET AWAY FROM THE, THE INSANITY UPON MILITARY DRIVE.
I DON'T THINK IT'S REAL FAIR FOR THE PEOPLE THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR THIS MANY YEARS.
OUR PEOPLE ACROSS THE STREET, THE, UH, THE VALEZ FOLKS THAT'S BEEN THERE A LONG TIME, 40 SOMETHING YEARS WHEN THIS THING, THIS, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO LIVE IN THAT HOUSE.
NONE OF US ARE GONNA BE ABLE TO LIVE IN THE HOUSE.
WE'RE ALL RETIRED IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE OF THIS TROUBLE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, ALL OF YOU.
ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? NO, SIR.
I DIDN'T REALIZE YOU WERE SITTING THAT FAR BACK.
DO YOU WANT YOU HAVE A OPPORTUNITY FOR A, A SHORT REBUTTAL TO THAT COMMENT? WELL, I REALIZED THAT THIS IS ONE OF MY, MY NEIGHBOR AND WE ALREADY ARE, ARE VERY AWARE ABOUT THE, THE SITUATION OF THE, OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
BUT THIS IS OUR INVESTMENT PROPERTY.
WHAT WE WANT TO KEEP IS NOT, NOT RENTING TO, YOU KNOW, TO TO PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO VANDALIZE OR BE INVOLVED ON DRUGS.
MY HUSBAND IS A JUDGE, RIGHT? SO WHAT WE DON'T WANT IS TO GET INVOLVED WITH, YOU KNOW, THESE KIND OF CRIMES OR THINGS LIKE THAT BECAUSE IT'S OUR INVESTMENT, IT'S OUR MONEY, YOU KNOW, THAT WHERE, WHERE WE PUT IN THERE.
SO WE WANT TO KEEP THAT, UH, VERY CLEAR BECAUSE I'M, I'M, YEAH, SADLY THAT'S THE SITUATION OF THE, OF THE, OF THE NEIGHBOR.
BUT ONE OF MY EXPERIENCE, UH, DOING A LOT OF GENTRIFICATION IS THAT WE BRINGING INTO THE NEW TO INTO THE COMMUNITIES NEW PEOPLE THAT GOING, YOU KNOW, BETTER, BETTER WITH BETTER, UM, I DUNNO HOW TO SAY THIS, BUT WITH BETTER BEHAVIOR.
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THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO.YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY PREFER TO KEEP A A PROPERTY THAT RIGHT NOW IN THE CONDITION THAT IT IS.
IT'S A GHETTO HOUSE, SO I WANT TO DO IT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIVABLE.
OF COURSE I'M GONNA KEEP IT BECAUSE IT'S MY MONEY, IT'S MY, MY INVESTMENT.
SO I'M GOING, I'M GONNA BE VERY, VERY CAREFUL WITH THE PEOPLE THAT I'M GONNA RENT IT THIS UNIT.
SO I DON'T WANT TO GET INVOLVED WITH DRUGS OR BURGLARY OR, OR NOTHING.
WE MAY, WE MAY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
UM, THIS IS A DISTRICT THREE CASE, SO COMMISSIONER FUENTES TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS.
UM, I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR STAFF.
THE PROPERTY SIZE, WAS IT, IT WAS 0.16 ACRE, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.
AND THE ALTERNATIVE WAS TO KEEP THE BAY ZONING, UH, AND ALLOW CONDITIONAL USE FOR THREE UNITS, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
AND MA'AM, UH, YOU STATED, UH, THAT YOU MINIMUM, UH, USAGE WOULD REQUIRE UH, FOUR UNITS.
IS THAT CORRECT? I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE FOUR UNITS BECAUSE AS I SAY, AS I MENTIONED RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A BIG PROPERTY THAT WE ONLY WANT TO DIVIDE IT IN THREE, CREATE THREE DOORS, THREE, THREE BATHROOMS AND THREE LIKE A LITTLE STUDIOS.
AND IN THE BACKYARD I, I DON'T KNOW, BUT IN THE PICTURE YOU CAN SEE IT, BUT THERE IS AN EXISTING ANOTHER CASITA THAT IT WAS IN A STUDIO IN, IN THE PAST AND I'M ASSUMING RIGHT.
BUT, SO I'M NOT CREATING NOTHING NEW.
SO BASICALLY I'M REBUILDING OR REFRESHING THE PROPERTY AND DIVIDED TO MAKE IT IT WORK FOR MAKE THAT INVESTMENT WORK FOR US, YOU KNOW.
WHERE DO YOU PLAN ON KEEPING, UH, PARKING FOR THESE RESIDENTS? UH, RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE A LOT OF, A LOT OF, IN THE SIDE, THEY HAVE A LOT OF PLENTY SPACE BECAUSE THAT WAS, UH, I WAS ANALYZING THAT WITH OUR ENGINEERS AND OUR ARCHITECTS.
SO WE HAVE THE SETBACKS AND EVERYTHING IS IN CODE.
WE ARE NOT DOING, LIKE, WE ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING NEW, NOTHING.
BASICALLY WE GOING TO REFRESH THE PROPERTY.
SO GIVEN THE RECOMMENDATION THAT, UH, CITY STAFF HAS, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO COMPROMISE AND, UH, MAKE THIS PROJECT WORK WITH THOSE THREE UNITS? SO I, I BELIEVE THAT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD COMPROMISE BETWEEN WHAT, UH, SOME OF YOUR NEIGHBORS ARE, UH, STATING AND BETWEEN WHAT YOU NEED.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A LOT OF UNKNOWNS THAT COME WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, BRINGING MORE FOLKS INTO AN AREA AND INCREASING DENSITY, BUT WE ALSO DO HAVE TO ADDRESS THE NEED FOR MORE HOUSING.
AND I, I DO LIKE THAT WE ARE INTRODUCING MORE HOUSING TYPES INTO THE AREA.
SO, UH, BACK TO MY QUESTION, WOULD, WOULD THAT BE ABLE TO, WOULD THAT BE SUITABLE FOR YOU? YES, OF COURSE.
UM, NO FURTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
ALRIGHT, UH, QUESTIONS? FELLOW COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT? NONE.
UH, SEEING NONE, UH, TO YOU COMMISSIONER FUENTES FOR A MOTION.
SO, AS I SAID, THERE'S A LOT OF UNKNOWNS THAT COME IN, UH, INCREASING THE DENSITY AND UH, BRINGING MORE FOLKS IN.
BUT UH, ALSO THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY AND I LOOK TO THAT OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THIS A CASE FOR MORE PROJECTS LIKE THIS YES, UH, THAT ARE DONE RESPONSIBLY, BUT ALSO THAT ARE MANAGED RESPONSIBLY, UH, THROUGHOUT ITS LIFE.
UM, WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS ZONING WILL STAY WITH THIS PROPERTY UNTIL IT'S FURTHER REZONED.
UH, BUT BEING THAT ITS LOCATION AND UH, OVERALL SIZE DOES SUPPORT IT, I WOULD GO WITH THE, UH, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR, UH, R SIX CD CONDITIONAL USE FOR THREE UNITS.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER ORTIZ WITH THE SECOND.
ALRIGHT, THE MOTION IS IS FOR, UM, R SIX CD FOR THREE UNITS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION, I MIGHT SAY, UM, BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ.
DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.
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CHASE? YES.UM, OUR NEXT CASE IS, IS IT ITEM 17? IF NOT, I THINK IT'S FOUR.
IF WE COULD HAVE STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
GOOD AFTERNOON AND BENAVIDEZ ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER 17 IS GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 16,000 BLOCK OF KYLE SEAL PARKWAY AND IS A REQUEST TO GO FROM R FIVE TO N AND THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
THERE ARE 13 IN OPPOSITION AND SONOMA RIDGE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED.
STAFF DOES NOT FIND LIKE EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS.
IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST, THE CURRENT R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED MF 18 LIMITED DENSITY MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICT IS ALSO APPROPRIATE.
THE PROPERTY IS PLACED IN SIZE TO ADEQUATELY ACCOMMODATE THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
THE PROPOSED MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ALIGNS WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE AREA, WHICH IS LARGELY VACANT WITH SOME SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS IN PROXIMITY.
THE PROPOSAL IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS OF THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, WHICH, WHICH ENCOURAGES DEVELOPMENT OF ALTERNATE HOUSING TYPES TO ACCOMMODATE THE CITY'S GROWING POPULATION AT ALL INCOME LEVELS.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE.
AND THIS WAS PULLED TO INDIVIDUAL 'CAUSE WE HAD FOUR VOICEMAILS IN OPPOSITION, SO.
HELLO? HELLO, UH, MATTHEW GILBERT WITH ORTIZ MCKNIGHT.
I THINK WE HAVE A PRESENTATION.
SO HERE IS A GENERAL LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY.
IT'S LOCATED IN DISTRICT EIGHT, UH, JUST BEHIND, UH, LOCK AND TARA.
THE PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 10.77 ACRES, UH, LOCATED ALONG KYLE SEAL PARKWAY, UH, JUST SOUTH OF BABCOCK.
THE REQUEST IS FOR A REZONING ON 10.77 ACRES FROM R SIX TO MF 18 TO ALLOW FOR DEVELOPMENT OF, UH, TOWN HOMES.
THE, UH, APPLICANT IS, UH, ESTIMATING ABOUT 130, UH, TOWN HOMES ON THIS PROPERTY, UH, WHICH WOULD WORK OUT TO A DENSITY OF ABOUT 13 UNITS PER ACRE.
UM, THE MF 18, UH, ZONING DESIGNATION WOULD ALLOW UP TO 194, UH, UNITS, UH, BUT WILL BE WELL WITH, UH, UNDERNEATH THAT THRESHOLD.
UH, AS STAFF MENTIONED, IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE, UH, STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN AND, UH, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.
SO THE PROPERTY OUTLINED IN BLACK IS THE OVERALL PROPERTY, THE PROPERTY OUTLINED IN BLUE IS WHAT IS SUBJECT TO THIS REZONING TODAY, UH, THE LARGER PROPERTY IS ABOUT 117 ACRES AND WILL BE TAKING, UH, 10 ACRES OUT OF THAT PROPERTY.
WE, IF YOU LOOK TO THE LEFT OR THE WEST OF THE PROPERTY, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS, UM, OUTSIDE OF CITY LIMITS IS SONOMA MESA.
UH, WE DID RECEIVE OPPOSITION, UH, LATER, UH, LATE YESTERDAY AND EARLIER THIS MORNING.
UM, WE HAD A PLEASANT CONVERSATION IN THE BACK, UH, WHILE OTHER PROCEEDINGS WERE GOING ON.
UM, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM IN BETWEEN NOW AND ZONING COMMISSION IF THIS IS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL.
HERE IS THE EXISTING MDP AND MAYBE A LITTLE BIT HARD TO READ, BUT THE PROPERTY IS, UH, OUTLINED IN RED.
UM, THE EXISTING MDP DOES PERMIT UP TO 295, UH, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL UNITS NEXT LINE.
AND HERE IS OUR, UH, LAND PLAN.
UH, AGAIN, WE ARE PROPOSING, UH, 130
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DWELLING UNITS, UH, ATTACHED TOWN HOMES.UM, THE LARGER, UH, 117 ACRE PROPERTY IS OUTLINED.
UH, OF NOTE THERE WILL BE A, UH, CONSERVATION EASEMENT DUE TO THE, BOTH THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE PROPERTY AND SOME OF THE SENSITIVE FEATURES THAT WERE, UH, IDENTIFIED ON SITE HERE IS A RENDERING OF WHAT, UH, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING.
UH, THE OVERALL REQUEST IS FOR A REZONING, UH, FROM R SIX TO MF 18.
UH, THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA AND WITH THE UNDERLYING LAND USE DESIGNATION.
UH, AND ONCE AGAIN, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
AND DO WE HAVE VOICEMAILS? YOU SAY, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS SIGNED UP? YES, WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS.
UM, MR. OLIVAREZ, DID YOU WANNA SPEAK HERE OR HAVE YOUR VOICEMAIL PLAYED? I, I'LL SPEAK HERE PLEASE.
SO WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS AND THREE VOICEMAILS.
IF WE COULD HAVE THE OTHER VOICEMAILS PLEASE.
I LIVE AT 1 7 2 2 6 TUR RIDGE INSIDE THE SONOMA MESA SUBDIVISION.
UH, I'M CALLING ABOUT ITEM NUMBER 17, THE REZONING OF THE PROPERTY BEHIND SONOMA MESA.
UH, I WANT TO POSE, UH, THAT REZONING.
WE ALREADY HAD THREE BRAND NEW APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT HAVE BUILT, BEEN BUILT TRAFFIC HAS BEEN HORRENDOUS.
UH, JUST FEEL LIKE IT WOULD NOT BE THE BEST BENEFIT FOR ALL THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY LIVING IN THE AREA TO ADD ANOTHER, UM, MULTI-FAMILY DWELLING.
UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING FOR ME, IT, UH, MY NUMBER'S 2 1 0 7 2 2 4 1 8 7.
MY NAME'S JEFFREY WALTER, I LIVE IN SONOMA MEA.
MY ADDRESS IS ONE SEVEN ZERO TWO SEVEN SONOMA RIDGE.
MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 410-1032.
AND I'M CALLING REGARDING CASE, UH, 1 0 7 0 0 1 8 3.
UH, THE REASON I'M CALLING IS 'CAUSE I OBJECT TO YOU GUYS CHANGING THE ZONING ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.
WE HAVE WAY MORE THAN WE NEED, UH, MULTI-FAMILY.
IT'S BEEN BUILT IN THE LAST YEAR OR SO ON THE STREET, AND THERE HAVEN'T BEEN ANY TRAFFIC STUDIES OR ANYTHING ELSE DONE.
AND KYLE SEALE CANNOT SUPPORT MORE MULTI-FAMILY.
I MEAN, YOU GUYS HAVE ADDED A THOUSAND UNITS ON OUR STREET.
WE'VE ALREADY HAD ONE HEAD-ON COLLISION AT THE EXIT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
DUE TO THE EXTRA TRAFFIC IN THE CURVE THAT, UH, EXISTS JUST THE LEFT OF OUR ENTRANCE, THE FACT THAT NOBODY PUT IN A STOPLIGHT AFTER BUILDING A THOUSAND UNITS ON OUR STREET.
AND, UH, I THINK YOU GUYS NEED TO TAKE A STEP BACK.
I LIVE, UM, ON SONOMA MEA ADDRESS, 1 7 0 5 5 SONOMA ROAD, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 5 5.
AND MY NUMBER IS 5 1 5 7 7 0 9 0 8 0.
I'M CALLING REGARDING THIS, UH, ZONING PERMISSION, PUBLIC HEARING CASE Z 20 23 1 0 7 0 0 1 8 3.
AND THIS IS TO CONVERT A RESIDENTIAL PLOT INTO A MULTI-FAMILY, UM, UH, COMMERCIAL, UH, CHAIN ZONE CHANGE REQUEST.
WE DO NOT NEED ANY MORE OF THESE.
THERE HAS, THERE ARE WAY TOO MANY APARTMENTS ON
UM, JUST COME AND DRIVE ON IT.
AND THERE IS ALREADY ANOTHER ONE, UH, ANOTHER RESIDENTIAL, UH, THAT WAS CONVERTED, UH, INTO, UH, COMMERCIAL, UM, NOT LONG AGO.
THAT HAS NOT EVEN STARTED CONSTRUCTION.
AND THEN THIS ANOTHER ONE, I MEAN, COME ON.
UM, THE, THE TRAFFIC IS ALREADY, THAT IS, UH, IT'S ALREADY QUITE A BIT.
AND THEN WE ARE JUST, UH, GOING TO MAKE, UH,
IF, IF THIS, THIS KIND OF, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, UNCHECKED, UH, UH, BUILDING, ESPECIALLY LIKE INCREASING THE DENSITY ARE NOT OPPOSED TO HAVING HOUSING, BUT THERE ARE OTHER PLACES.
HOW MANY APARTMENT BUILDINGS CAN YOU HAVE IN ONE LOCATION? WITHIN, WITHIN
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A, UH, WITHIN A, UM, SO JUST COME AND DRIVE ON CARL C PARKWAY.JUST PASS, PASS IT AND SEE HOW MANY APARTMENTS THAT ARE ALREADY THERE.
I WOULD, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, UH, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHY NOT MAKE SOME AFFORDABLE, UH, SMALL HOUSES AND STUFF, YOU KNOW? ALL RIGHT.
AND SO FOR SPEAKERS, WE FIRST HAVE MR. EDEN CRITCHFIELD AND THEN TO BE FOLLOWED BY FLOYD EZ IN CRITCHFIELD.
AND UH, I'VE LIVED INNO MESA SINCE 2013, SINCE GETTING OUT OF THE ARMY.
UH, WHEN WE FIRST MOVED UP THERE, IT WAS COUNTRY.
AND AS YOU HEARD ON THE VOICEMAILS, YOU KNOW, IN THE LAST THREE YEARS THERE HAVE BEEN THREE, MAYBE FOUR APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT HAVE BEEN IMPROVED.
THEY'RE NOT EVEN FINISHED YET AND THEN THERE'S STILL SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE HAVING TROUBLE FILLING THEM EVEN.
BUT WHAT WE ARE SEEING ALREADY BASED ON THE PEOPLE WHO ARE MOVING IN IS THAT THE TRAFFIC ON KYLE SEAL IS HORRENDOUS.
IT'S A DANGEROUS ROAD UP THERE, GIVEN THAT THERE'S ALL THESE TURNS.
A LOT OF BIKERS ON THIS ROAD, THERE HAVE BEEN A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF ACCIDENTS NOW ON THERE.
AND SO, LIKE TO SAY, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO, TO DRIVE IT YOURSELF AND TO SEE, OR I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S BEEN ANY TYPE OF A TRAFFIC STUDY THAT'S BEEN DONE.
IF SO, I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO SEE THAT AND TO SEE THE DATA.
IF NOT, I, I FIRMLY RECOMMEND THAT THAT BE DONE.
UM, THE TRAFFIC, THE CONSTRUCTION THAT IS GOING ON UP THERE, IT'S LIKE THE WILD WEST.
HERE'S WHAT I LIVE ACROSS FROM, IS THERE'S, CAN I PASS THIS TO Y'ALL? I CAN PROJECT IT.
THIS IS THE, THE LAST APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT WAS APPROVED AND THE WALL, THEY TRIED TO GET GREEDY AND TAKE AS MUCH LAND AS THEY COULD TO USE AS MUCH AS THEY COULD.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THE WALL COLLAPSED.
AND THEN THE PART ON THE LEFT THAT WAS JUST A, OVER THE LAST WEEK, THAT PART COLLAPSED AFTER THE LATEST RAIN ONE YEAR.
THEY'RE TRYING, PROBABLY SCRATCHING THEIR HEADS, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY'RE GONNA GO ABOUT FIXING IT.
WE REALLY DON'T NEED MORE OF THIS.
UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE IMPACT IS GONNA BE ON THE ENVIRONMENT.
HAS THERE BEEN A STUDY DONE DURING THE WINTER STORM? TWO YEARS AGO WE WERE WITHOUT WATER AND POWER FOR FOUR DAYS.
WHAT'S THAT GONNA DO WHEN THERE'S MORE APARTMENTS UP THERE? MORE PEOPLE, MORE DEMAND ON, ON THE WATER, MORE DEMAND ON ON THE POWER.
UM, I KNOW THAT THEY HAD SAID THAT THERE HAD BEEN NO OPPOSITION, UH, TO, TO THIS.
I JUST GOT WORD OF IT ON FRIDAY THAT THIS IS WHAT WAS PLANNED.
I WENT AND DOOR TO DOOR TO ALL OF MY NEIGHBORS, NOBODY KNEW OF IT.
AND I COLLECTED AS MANY SIGNATURES AS I COULD.
I WENT DOWN TO THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD ON MAUI SANDS THAT'S GONNA BE ACROSS FROM THE APARTMENTS.
THEY'RE GONNA BE WITHIN A STONE THROW OF, OF THESE APARTMENT BUILDINGS.
AND YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT IF WE HAVE MORE TIME, I COULD GET A LOT MORE SIGNATURES, A LOT MORE PEOPLE IN ORDER TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE THEIR VOICES HEARD.
BUT THAT IS WHAT I GOT FOR TODAY.
AND THEN NEXT TO BE MR. OLIVAREZ, PLEASE.
MR. CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONERS, GOOD AFTERNOON.
THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN TO US.
I HAVE LIVED, UH, MY ADDRESS IS 1 7 2 2 TURRIN RIDGE IN SONOMA MESA, MR. ORTIZ, I ALSO HAVE PROPERTY IN DISTRICT EIGHT.
AND I'VE ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO COUNCILMAN AS WELL, UH, FOR HELP WITH THIS MATTER.
UH, AND AS COUNSEL FOR THE DEVELOPER SAID, WE DID HAVE A PLEASANT CONVERSATION.
UH, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO DEVELOPMENT, BUT I'M AP I'M OPPOSED, OR RATHER CONSTRUCTIVE DEVELOPMENT.
NOW, AS EDEN SAID, UM, THERE HAVE BEEN ACCIDENTS ON THAT ROAD.
THE ENTRANCE THERE, IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE THE ENTRANCE IS RIGHT THERE TO SONOMA RIDGE, THAT'S A BLIND CURVE.
PEOPLE COMING AROUND THAT CURVE, YOU CAN'T SEE THEM IN THE MORNING.
AND AGAIN, COUNCIL, WE HAD A VERY GOOD CONVERSATION.
NOTHING PERSONAL THERE, BUT THE ISSUE BECOMES, WITHOUT ANY KIND OF TRAFFIC STUDY, WITHOUT ANY KIND OF KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT THE TRAFFIC IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
SECOND ISSUE, AN ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY.
I USED TO WORK WATER, UTILITY WORK AND, UM, PUBLIC UTILITY WORK THAT WHILE IT'S NOT IN THE EDWARDS AQUIFER ZONE SPECIFICALLY, IT IS CLOSE TO IT, IT'S CLOSE TO THE RECHARGE ZONE.
SO I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY TO AT LEAST GIMME SOME KIND OF CONFIDENCE THAT THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ANY CONTAMINATION GOING TO THE AQUIFER.
AND QUITE FRANKLY, FROM WHAT I KNOW ABOUT THE EDWARDS, A CONTAMINATION IN ONE PART IS A CONTAMINATION IN ALL PARTS.
'CAUSE IT'S ONE UNDERGROUND RIVER, QUITE FRANKLY.
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WHAT THEY'VE SAID.UM, THE THIRD, AND THE CONCERN I HAVE, 'CAUSE I DID DO UTILITY WORK, IS WHAT IS THE CAPACITY FOR SAWS THERE FOR CPS? I'VE ASKED THE QUESTION, IS IT AN EIGHT INCH LINE? IS A 16 INCH LINE, IS IT 24 INCH LINE? WE DON'T KNOW.
AND I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT INFOR, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT INFORMATION TO KNOW CAN THE UTILITY SUPPORT ANOTHER 155 OR WHATEVER NUMBER OF UNITS? IT'S, I MEAN, BECAUSE DOING MY WORK AND IN MY UTILITY WORK, I UNDERSTAND THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH CAPACITY YOU CAN HAVE.
AND WHEN YOU START TAPPING IN ADDITIONAL LINES INTO THE 24 OR EIGHT OR 12 INCH LINE OR WHATEVER IT IS, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE PROBLEMS. CASE IN POINT, HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A, A, UM, SIMPLED EXAMPLE, A WATER HOSE, RIGHT? YOU START PINCHING IT OFF.
THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH WATER COMING OUTTA THERE.
WELL, AS YOU START TAPPING IN MORE, MORE METERS INTO THE SINGLE LINE, WHICH I IMAGINE IS COMING UP, KYLE SEALE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SOME ISSUES.
THERE'S GONNA BE SOME CAPACITY ISSUES.
UH, NOW AGAIN, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO DEVELOPMENT, BUT I DO WANNA SEE SMART DEVELOPMENT.
UH, SO MY REQUEST TODAY IS TWOFOLD.
EITHER THEY, UH, CONTINUE THIS MATTER UNTIL WE'VE HAD A CHANCE TO WORK ISSUES OUT WITH, UH, COUNSEL FOR THE DEVELOPER TO AT LEAST UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON OR LEAVE THE ZONING THE WAY IT IS.
AND MIGHT I ADD THE, THE PROPERTY, UH, THE HOA PRESIDENT, PRESIDENT, EXCUSE ME, VERSUS SONOMA MESA DID SEND AN EMAIL OVER, I DON'T KNOW IF COMMISSIONERS HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO SEE THAT, BUT ON BEHALF OF 155 RESIDENTS IN SONOMA MESA THAT DO OPPOSE THAT.
AND I'VE GOT, UH, THREE RESIDENTS MYSELF THAT ARE PERSONALLY REPRESENT, THAT ARE ALSO OPPOSED TO THAT.
SO OUR CONCERN IS SIMPLY LET'S DO SOME HOMEWORK FIRST.
YOU KNOW, AT LEAST SHOW US THE DOCUMENTATION SO WE KNOW WHAT, WHAT'S HAPPENING.
UH, GIVE US A CHANCE TO, TO HAVE A SAY IN IT.
GIVE US A CHANCE TO EITHER OPPOSE IT OR CONSTRUCT IT OR WORK WITH IT.
OR AT LEAST LET US KNOW WHAT'S COMING BECAUSE I WILL END ON THIS POINT.
MY BACKYARD LITERALLY LOOKS RIGHT OUT TO THAT ENTRANCE OVER THERE.
AND BY THE WAY, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL HIKING TRAIL.
PEOPLE USE THAT THING EVERY DAY.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE COUNTY TO MAKE IT A TRAIL.
BUT THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.
AND I I THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.
AND THAT'S IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
IF YOU'D LIKE A OPPORTUNITY FOR A REBUTTAL, PLEASE.
UH, VERY BRIEFLY, UH, JUST CONFIRMATION THAT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS FOR TOWNHOUSES, UH, ATTACHED TOWNHOUSES, NOT THE TRADITIONAL, UH, MULTIFAMILY APARTMENT STYLE, UH, DWELLING UNITS.
UH, THERE HAS BEEN A FULL ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY DONE.
UH, THAT'S HOW WE WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THOSE SENSITIVE FEATURES THAT WERE ON, UH, THE LAND PLAN.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD PULL THAT UP REALLY QUICK, ANNE.
UM, WE ALSO SHOULD HAVE A TRAFFIC STUDY.
I NEED TO CHECK WITH THE APPLICANT ON THAT.
BUT EVEN IF WE DON'T, IT IS REQUIRED AS, UH, PART OF THE BUILDING PERMITTING PROCESS.
SO THAT WILL BE, UH, SATISFIED.
UM, REGARDING THE ACTUAL TRAFFIC VOLUME, UM, AS I STATED WITH THE EXISTING MDP, UH, THERE ARE 200, IT'S PERMITTED TO HAVE UP TO 295.
UH, SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING UNITS WE'RE PROPOSING 130 TOWNHOUSES.
UH, EVEN WITH THE ADDITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY THAT MAY OR MAY NOT COME AS A PART OF THIS, UH, THAT WOULD TOTAL 230.
SO QUICK REVIEW WE WOULD DROP FROM 295 DOWN TO 230, UH, DWELLING UNITS.
UM, AND THEN LAST THING, WE, UH, DID HAVE A SNAFU WITH REACHING OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, IT IS OUTSIDE OF CITY LIMITS, SO WE DID NOT HAVE THAT CON UH, CONTACT INFORMATION READILY AVAILABLE.
AND I DON'T THINK STAFF DID, UH, EITHER.
UH, BUT WE ARE COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, FROM HERE ON OUT.
THIS IS A DISTRICT EIGHT CASE, SO COMMISSIONER ORTIZ TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS.
UM, ACTUALLY I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR MATTHEW.
UM, SO YOUR PROPOSED, I GUESS THEY'RE SAYING TO THE TRAFFIC STUDY, YOU HAVE YOUR TRAFFIC, SO YOU DON'T HAVE THE TRAFFIC STUDY YET? UH, I, OH, THAT WAS FAST FOR ME.
UH, WE CAN GO BACK TO THE APPLICANT AND INQUIRE, UM, AND RELAY WHATEVER INFORMATION WE HAVE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND IN REGARDING THE, I GUESS THE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY, SOMETHING YOU MENTIONED THAT AS WELL, RIGHT? CORRECT.
THERE IS A FULL ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY THAT HAS BEEN CONDUCTED.
UH, SO WE CAN SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL.
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BIT MORE TIME, WE PROBABLY WOULD'VE GIVEN THAT TO THEM EARLIER.AND THEN, UM, ONE MORE QUESTION AS FAR AS THE SONOMA MESA, AND YOU SAID YOU DID REACH OUT TO THEM, BUT OBVIOUSLY FROM, THEY HAVE, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE NOT IN IN SUPPORT, BUT, UH, WE, WE DID ACTUALLY NOT REACH OUT TO THEM.
UH, WE DID RECEIVE, UH, FROM STAFF, UH, LETTERS OF OPPOSITION, UH, YESTERDAY AFTERNOON, UH, THROUGH THIS MORNING.
UH, SO THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME WE WERE ABLE TO, UH, SEE WHO LIVED IN THE AREA, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UH, THERE IS NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, WITH THE CITY, UH, WITHIN 200, UH, FEET OF THE PROPERTY.
I'M GONNA GET, I'LL GET BACK TO YOU IF I HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS.
I HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF BEING THAT THEY'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND THEY'RE TRYING TO, THE ORIGINAL, I GUESS IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED AS R SIX, THAT WOULD GIVE THEM A 295 PROPERTIES THAT THEY COULD PUT THERE AS RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
IF THE WAY, IF THEY KEEP THE WAY IT'S ZONED VERSUS THEIR HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO DO SOME MATH.
SO GIVE US, ME, SORRY, I THINK IT'S 2 95.
IT'S, UH, THE DENSITY FOR R SIX IS SEVEN UNITS PER ACRE.
AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A 10 ACRE, THE 200 IF I MAY, THE 295 UH, NUMBER IS FOR THE ENTIRE, UH, 117 ACRE PROPERTY.
SORRY FOR THE 10 ACRES, IT WOULD BE JUST A HUN BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE TRACKING OFF.
AND SO THAT WAY, I MEAN, IF THEY KEPT IT LIKE THAT, IT WOULD ACTUALLY, IT WOULD MAKE IT MUCH MORE, IT WOULD BE MORE DENSITY THE WAY IT IS CURRENTLY.
R SIX VERSUS OUR PROPOSAL OF 130.
WELL, WITH THE 75 YOU COULD POTENTIALLY DO AN ADU.
AND THAT COULD POTENTIALLY DOUBLE.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 150.
VERSUS ONE 30 VERSUS ONE, WHICH IS WHAT THEIR TOWN HOMES ARE.
I'M GONNA HAND IT OVER TO SOME OF MY, UH, COMMISSIONERS TO GO AHEAD AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THEY HAVE.
SO THIS IS NOT ON THE RECHARGE ZONE.
UM, THE SECTION THAT THEY ARE REZONING IS OUTSIDE OF THE RECHARGE ZONE.
WE, WE VERIFIED WITH, UH, WITH SAWS 'CAUSE WE SAW IT WAS CLOSE AS WELL AND IT'S NOT.
AND FOR THE APPLICANT, YOU, YOU MENTIONED SENSITIVE FEATURES.
PLEASE DESCRIBE I THINK YES SIR.
WE CAN BRING UP THE POWER ONE MORE TIME.
WELL, I MEAN, WAS IT LIKE FRACTURED ZONES OR CAR FEATURES OR, SORRY, GOOD AFTERNOON.
JAMES MCKNIGHT FROM MORTIZ MCKNIGHT.
I'M THE ONE THAT'S ACTUALLY BEEN ON THE PHONE CALLS WITH THE, THE CLIENT WHEN THEY WERE DOING THIS, THEY DID THIS ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY OVER MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY WEEKS.
UM, AND EVERY WEEK THE GUY WAS TALKING ABOUT THE, THE CAR ZONES THAT HE WAS SEEING THERE.
IT'S A LOT OF, YEAH, IT'S A LOT OF INLET FEATURES.
AND SO THAT WAS, YOU CAN SEE ALL THAT CONCERT THAT ALL THAT AREA IS NOW GOING INTO CONSERVATION.
SO ORIGINALLY THE MDP HAD 295.
WE'RE REALLY JUST TRYING TO CLUSTER NOW, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO USE, TAKE THAT LAND, USE IT, UM, THE, THE BEST WAY WE CAN, KNOWING WHAT THE FEATURES ARE THERE, BUT MOSTLY IT'S COST FEATURES.
AND THEN I HAVE A TRAFFIC AND ACCESS QUESTION.
THE REPORT SAYS THAT ATIA WAS COMPLETED.
SO DID YOU SUBMIT ATIA WE SUBMITTED THE TIA SUMMARY.
I I'M NOT SURE IF OUR ENGINEER ACTUALLY FINISHED THE TIA.
IF WE, I MEAN, IF IT'S THERE, YEAH, WE, WE CAN SEND IT ALONG
AND ACCESS, WOULD YOU, ARE YOU GONNA ACCESS KYLE SEAL ACROSS FROM SONOMA RIDGE? THE, THE ROAD THAT YOU, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IT ON THIS SHOT THERE, THAT THE, THE PROPERTY BORDERS, KYLE SEAL AND A NEW, UM, INTERIOR ROAD.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE THE EXIT WILL BE, IS OFF OF THAT INTERIOR ROAD.
I MEAN THEY'RE COMING ONTO KYLE SEAL EVENTUALLY, BUT DIRECTLY GOES ONTO THAT ROAD.
SO THEN YOU'LL DO A SIGNAL WARRANT FOR THAT NEW ROAD.
WE, WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO LOOK AT WHETHER OR NOT THE, UH, SIGNAL IS WARRANTED THERE.
THE COUNSEL OFFICE HAS ALREADY TALKED TO US ABOUT THAT AND WE'VE RELAYED THAT TO THE CLIENT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT? NONE.
UM, AND COMMISSIONER REYES, UH, ASKED THE QUESTION I WAS GONNA ASK BECAUSE ON THE ZONING MAP IT SAYS ERZD, BUT I'M ASSUMING BASED ON, ON
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MR. MCKNIGHT'SAND WE DID CONTACT SAWS TO GET THEIR INPUT.
AND THEY DID, UM, AGREE THAT THEY DID NOT NEED TO BE INVOLVED WITH THIS RE THIS SECTION TO BE REZONED.
UM, SINCE THIS PORTION IS UNDERGOING REZONING OWNING, WOULD IT, IT WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE LATEST TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE, CORRECT? UH OH, MAYBE WE, IT WOULD HAVE TO VERIFY THAT THERE ARE, IS, IT IS ALWAYS POSSIBLE THAT THERE ARE DEVELOPMENT PRESERVATION RIGHTS, BUT I DON'T HAVE THAT RIGHT NOW.
OH, THE, THE, THE APARTMENTS THAT, THAT, UH, ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS MENTIONED, I BELIEVE THOSE ARE OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS.
SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SEEING ON THE MAP.
SO THAT MAY BE A REASON WHY THEY'VE HAD ISSUES THERE.
THEY AREN'T FOLLOWING THE SAME RULES THAT WE DO WITHIN THE CITY.
UM, I THINK THOSE WERE ALL OF MY QUESTIONS.
SO BACK TO YOU COMMISSIONER ORTIZ.
UM, THIS IS, THIS IS A TOUGH ONE.
THIS KIND OF REMINDS ME OF THE PRU CASE.
WE HAD A COUPLE, UH, CASE MONTHS BACK WHERE THERE WAS JUST A LOT OF CONCERN OF THE RESIDENTS AND BEING THAT THIS IS JUST A ZONING CASE, I JUST FEEL LIKE SOME OF THE RESIDENTS, I FEEL LIKE YOU NEED TO BE HEARD.
I I WISH IT WAS TWO WEEKS, BUT BEING THAT IT'S A MONTH, A ONE MONTH CONTINUANCE, JUST TO GIVE EVERYBODY SOME TIME TO TALK THAT WAY IT'S SO NO MAY SO WE CAN GET THEM ON BOARD EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE OUTSIDE THE CITY, OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT KYLE SEAL DOESN'T BECOME PRE-ROLL WHERE THERE'S JUST SO MUCH DENSITY WHERE IT CANNOT BE, UH, I'VE DRIVEN IT LIKE YOU SAID.
AND SO, AND YOU SAID THERE'S BIKERS, I BIKE THERE AS WELL, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS DONE ACCORDINGLY AND EVERYBODY'S HEARD.
SO I'M GONNA PROPOSE A CONTINUES TO DECEMBER 5TH.
ALRIGHT, THE MOTION IS FOR A FOUR WEEK CONTINUANCE OR A CONTINUANCE TO DECEMBER 5TH, UH, BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES DISCUSSION.
I THINK, I THINK, UM, WELL SINCE PR, THE PRUE ROAD CASE WAS A DISTRICT SEVEN SLASH EIGHT-ISH THING.
SO YES, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD, GOOD IDEA.
UH, MOTION IS FOR CONTINUANCE.
UM, ITEM PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE.
ALRIGHT, WE MAY SEE YOU ON A MONTH.
THE NEXT CASE I BELIEVE IS, IS IT 18? AM I CORRECT? YES.
CAMERON BLACKMAN'S ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER 18 IS LOCATED AT 1 4 0 7 LEO STREET.
GOING FROM C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO IDZ TWO MEDIUM INTENSITY IN FULL DEVELOPMENT ZONE DISTRICT WITH USES PERMITTED FOR SIX DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYING THE SAME 24 NOTICES SENT ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED.
PROSPECT HILL IS IN FAVOR, UM, AND NO RESPONSE FROM WEST END HOPE IN ACTION.
THE EXISTING C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE REQUESTED IDZ TWO MEDIUM INTENSITY INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR SIX DWELLING UNITS IS ALSO AN APPROPRIATE ZONING.
THE PROPERTY IS FITTINGLY PLACED TO ACCOMMODATE SIX DWELLING UNITS SITTING BETWEEN A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE AND AN AUTO BODYING REPAIR SHOP CREATING A BUFFER BETWEEN THE CONFLICTING USES.
ADDITIONALLY, THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS OF THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, WHICH ENCOURAGES DIVERSE HOUSING OPTIONS FOR ALL INCOME LEVELS.
THE PROPOSED IDZ INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE DISTRICT ALSO HOLDS THE APPLICANT TO A PRESCRIBED SITE PLAN, WHICH INDICATES THE USE AND PROPOSED STRUCTURES AND WILL REQUIRE AN ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATION BY CITY COUNCIL.
IF THERE ARE ANY MAJOR CHANGES, STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THIS ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE, THE APPLICANT HAD TO LEAVE, SO I'M, UH, OKAY.
UH, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? YES.
HOW YOU DOING? RUSSELL FELLON 24 10 WEST COMMERCE.
I'M PRESIDENT OF POSSIBLY KILL ASSOCIATION IN WORKING WITH THIS APPLICA, THE APPLICANT, ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAD WAS PARKING IN THE STREET.
ALL HIS TENANTS LIKE PARKING IN THE STREET.
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I RECOMMENDED, HEY, YOU HAVE ENOUGH LAND, LET'S JUST KINDA RECONFIGURE IT.THAT WAY WE CAN HAVE BETTER PARKING.
SO, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA AGREE.
THIS IS, AND THAT'S IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
I BELIEVE THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE CASE.
SO COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS.
I'M QUESTIONING WHY I RUSH TO BE HERE IF THE APPLICANT CAN'T
I GUESS I DON'T THINK, I THINK I WANT THE APPLICANT TO BE HERE.
THIS CASE HAS BEEN POSTPONED PREVIOUSLY, UH, I BELIEVE, IS THAT CORRECT? I, I BELIEVE IT WAS, YES.
YEAH, WE'RE WORKING ON THE, WE WERE WORKING ON THE SITE PLAN.
I BELIEVE THERE WAS SOME, I BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT CHANGING THE FIRST PROPOSAL.
CAMERON, CAN YOU GIVE MORE INSIGHT PLEASE? YEAH.
OKAY, WE'LL MAKE THAT A QUESTION.
HOW HAS THIS APPLICATION CHANGED OVER ITS PREVIOUS ITERATIONS? YES.
SO THE APPLICANT ORIGINALLY WAS REQUESTING MF 25, UM, AND IS NOW REQUESTING IDZ TWO, UH, WITH USES PERMITTED FOR SIX DWELLING UNITS AND STAFF, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S I DZ TWO.
WHAT ARE THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS? 50%.
AND SO IN THIS CASE WITH SIX UNITS, WHAT WOULD THAT MEAN? SIX UNITS? I BELIEVE THE MINIMUM IS 1.5 AND SO 1.5 TIMES SIX IS NINE.
AND SO HALF OF THAT WOULD BE FIVE.
AND IN THIS CASE IT LOOKS LIKE THEY HAVE SEVEN PARKING SPOTS, IS THAT CORRECT? MR. FELON AND THE NEW DESIGNER HAVE I HAVE NINE.
UM, NO, I WOULD LIKE AN APPLICANT OR APPLICANT REPRESENTATIVE HERE SO I CAN CONTINUE TO ASK QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, DRUNKENLY APPARENTLY, BUT, UH, OR, OR WE CAN SEE IF ANYONE ELSE HAS QUESTIONS.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS ON MY LEFT? NONE COMMISSIONER'S ON MY RIGHT? NONE.
HOW ABOUT THAT? AND THAT IS ON, UH, STAFF'S CALCULATION OF 50%.
IS IT OF THE ENTIRE, LIKE WHEN YOU SAY IT'S 1.5, IT'S 1.5 PER UNIT.
SO WOULD YOU DO 50% OF 1.5 BEING 0.75 AND THEN ROUNDING UP TO ONE? SO YOU'D HAVE SIX OR DO YOU DO IT OVERALL AND THEN APPLY THE 50% OVERALL AND THEN 50%? I'M GONNA GET A DIFFERENT OPINION.
NO, I'M
YOU, YOU HEAR WHERE I WAS GOING? CORRECT? I ALRIGHT.
COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE TO YOU FOR A MOTION.
AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, I'M NOT DRUNK.
I'M JUST VERY TIRED FROM A VERY LONG DAY.
I WAS HERE FOR, UM, NOW I'M DONE HITTING THAT POINT.
UM, YOU KNOW, I WOULD, I DO THINK THIS IS A GREAT IMPROVEMENT OVER THE MF 25.
I THINK THEY'VE DEALT WITH THE BIGGEST ISSUE, WHICH IS THE PARKING.
BUT NONETHELESS, UM, YOU KNOW, I DO WANT A CONTINUANCE FOR THIS MATTER TO THE DECEMBER 5TH MEETING AND I SO MOVE FOR THAT CONTINUANCE.
ALRIGHT, THERE'S A MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE TO THE DECEMBER 5TH MEETING BY COMMISSIONER BI MONTE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON.
DISCUSSION FROM COMMISSIONERS.
LOOKING LEFT, SEEING NONE, AND LOOKING RIGHT AND SEEING NONE.
ITEM PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE FOR DECEMBER 5TH.
MY NAME IS ADOLFO GONZALEZ, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER 26 IS LOCATED AT 47 96 RITA AVENUE.
GOING FROM C TWO TO MHC MANUFACTURED HOUSING CONVENTIONAL DISTRICT.
THERE WERE 36 NOTICES SENT OUT.
ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED NO RESPONSE FROM COLLABORATIVE PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
THE EXISTING C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS INAPPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
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HOUSING CONVENTIONAL DISTRICT IS A MORE APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY.THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE, ARE ZONED.
C TWO HOWEVER, THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE CURRENTLY USED AS RESIDENTIAL DWELLINGS.
ALTHOUGH THE EXISTING C TWO UH, BASE ZONING WOULD MATCH THE SURROUNDING C TWO BASE ZONINGS, THE PROPOSED MHC WOULD MORE ACCURATELY ALIGN WITH EXISTING USES.
ADDITIONALLY, THE REQUESTED SINGULAR DWELLING UNIT WOULD ALIGN WITH THE ESTABLISHED SINGLE FAMILY DENSITY.
IT WOULD ALIGN WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
STAFF RECORD COMMANDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE.
HI, MY NAME IS THERESA PEREZ AND MY FAMILY OWNS PROPERTY 47 96 RITA AVENUE.
UM, MY NAME IS THERESA PEREZ AND MY FAMILY OWNS 47 96 RITA AVENUE.
WE DID PURCHASE IT AS A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
UM, BUT WE ARE LOOKING INTO CHANGING IT TO RESIDENTIAL TO PLACE A MANUFACTURED HOME.
UM, I GREW UP IN THIS AREA, UM, ON COLLIBRA.
RIGHT BEHIND MY GRANDPA'S HOUSE.
MY COUSIN JUST PLACED, UM, MODULAR HOME LIKE FIVE HOUSES DOWN THIS WAY FROM THE PROPERTY.
MY AUNT LIVES THERE, SO I'M TRYING TO PLACE A HOME THERE.
UM, THE PLAN WAS FOR MY MOM TO LIVE THERE, BUT SHE PASSED AWAY.
SO I'M TRYING TO GET AT LEAST MY DAD TO LIVE IN A HOME, A NEW HOME BEFORE HIS TIME FINISHES AND TO TAKE CARE OF MY NIECES AND NEPHEWS AND HAVE LIKE A NEW HOUSE FOR THEM.
SO I WAS HOPING THAT YOU GUYS WOULD SAY YES.
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
ALRIGHT, WELL THIS IS A DISTRICT SEVEN CASE, SO IT'S TO ME FOR SOME QUESTIONS.
UM, AND THE QUESTION FOR YOU, AND THAT IS YOUR, YOUR, YOUR PLAN IS FOR A SINGLE, UM, MANUFACTURED HOME, OR NO? I BELIEVE IT'S GONNA BE DOUBLE.
RIGHT? I, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE LIKE A, LIKE A DOUBLE WIDE OR, UM, I GUESS SO.
'CAUSE IT'S LIKE A FOUR TO FIVE BEDROOM, SO OH, OKAY.
BUT, BUT IT'S LIKE ONE HOUSE BASICALLY.
AND THEN THE, THE, THE QUESTION FOR STAFF IS, SO MHC WOULD ALLOW FOUR UNITS? NO, NO, IT ONLY ALLOWS ONE, JUST ONE MANUFACTURED HOME PER LOT.
I THOUGHT I SAW SOMETHING THAT IT, YOU GOT THE RIGHTS OF RMM FOUR.
BUT I THOUGHT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THEM.
SO IF THE, IF THE MANUFACTURED HOME, IF SHE DOESN'T INSTALL THAT, SHE WOULD BE PERMITTED RMM FOUR STANDARDS.
SHE STILL CAN'T DO A MANUFACTURED HOME THAT HAS A PARTICULAR, UM, ZONING DESIGNATION IN THE TABLE, WHICH IS WHY SHE'S HERE.
SHE COULD BUILD A MODULAR HOME, SHE COULD BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
SHE JUST CAN'T PUT A MOBILE HOME ON THE PROPERTY AS IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED.
IS THERE, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS WHOLE AREA IS COMMERCIAL.
I I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A, IN THE FUTURE GOING TO BE A, POSSIBLY A LARGE AREA CORRECT.
WE'RE WORKING ON THAT WITH DISTRICT SEVEN.
WHICH TO BE, WHAT'S REFLECTIVE OF WHAT'S ACTUALLY ON THE GROUND.
IS THERE A WAY TO, UM, GET AHEAD OF THE CURVE AND RATHER THAN DOING JUST MHC, CAN YOU DO AN R SIX CD WITH AN MANUFACTURED HOME OR NO, DO AN R SIX S.
BUT WOULD THAT THEN BE SHE NEEDS A SITE PLAN.
BEFORE WE COULD EVEN CONSIDER IT A ZONING.
AND SO THE REASON WE DIRECTED HER TO MHC WAS, UM, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE A BUYRIGHT DISTRICT INSTEAD OF HAVING TO HAVE THE CONDITIONAL USE, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE THE EXTRA EXPENSE OF THE SITE PLAN.
UH, I THINK THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS FOR RIGHT NOW.
IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL ANY BETTER.
MANUFACTURED HOUSING CONVENTIONAL DISTRICT IS VERY LIMITING.
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YOU CAN ONLY DO ONE MANUFACTURED HOME PER LOT.SO, UM, AND THAT'S THE INTENTION ANYWAY.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT COULD GROW INTO A MANUFACTURED HOME PARK.
THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE A MANUFACTURED HOME PARK ZONING FOR THAT AND IT WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A SITE PLAN WITH IT.
UH, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO OTHER COMMISSIONERS FOR QUESTIONS LOOKING LEFT.
ANY QUESTIONS? LOOKING RIGHT? ANY QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT.
UM, SO DID YOU WANT ME TO CHANGE IT TO R SIX? WELL, I, I'M TRYING, YOU KNOW, IN A PERFECT WORLD,
BUT HE SAID THE EVIL RIVAL WORD FROM BACK IN THE DAY.
UM, IF R SIX IS WHAT'S BETTER, I MEAN, I, I'LL PAY THE DIFFERENCE JUST TO GET IT GOING.
BUT THAT WOULD REQUIRE, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD REQUIRE YOU HAVING TO COME BACK, CORRECT? CORRECT.
MAN, I HATE DRAGGING THIS OUT EVEN MORE.
JUST THINKING OF WHAT, UM, YEAH, I BELIEVE ALSO CHANGING IT IS OUTSIDE THE NOTICE PROVISIONS.
SO WE WOULD HAVE TO RESTART AND POSTPONE.
YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AS MHC, UM, AND, UH, WE'LL GO FROM THERE.
SO MOTION FOR APPROVAL IS SECOND.
WHO MADE THE SECOND? COMMISSIONER? BUSTA MONTE.
UM, AND, AND I, I THINK, I THINK WE CAN, I THINK MHC WILL WORK WITH THE, WITH THE RESTRICTIONS.
SO, UH, MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL AS MHC BY ME SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE.
WE HAVE UH, ONE ANOTHER ITEM, DON'T WE? 30 SOMETHING, RIGHT? 33.
CAMERON BLACKMAN'S ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER 33 IS LOCATED AT 5 5 2 3 DIETRICH ROAD GOING FROM I ONE GENERAL INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT TO I TWO S HEAVY INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT WITH ALL OVERLAY STAYING THE SAME EIGHT NOTICES SENT ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED, AND NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
THE EXISTING I ONE GENERAL INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED I TWO S HEAVY INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR SANITARY LANDFILL IS ALSO AN APPROPRIATE, UH, ZONING FOR THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THE SURROUNDING AREAS IS LARGELY HIGH INTENSE INDUSTRIAL USES THAT ALIGN WITH THE PROPOSED SANITARY LANDFILL.
THE REQUESTED REZONING IS FOR A SPACE MEASURING 552 SQUARE FEET WITHIN THE INSIDE OF AN EXISTING BUILDING.
THE APPLICANT PROVIDED A PRESCRIBED SITE PLAN WHICH INDICATES THE USE OF THE PROPERTY AND STRUCTURES.
ANY MAJOR AMENDMENTS TO THE SITE PLAN WILL REQUIRE ADDITIONAL ZONING CONSIDERATION.
STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE.
ASHLEY FAIRMONT KILLING GRIFFIN AND FAIRMONT 1 0 1 0 1 REUNION PLACE.
UM, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION BUT I JUST WANNA START OFF WITH AFTER ALL OF THAT, WE ARE GOING TO ASK FOR CONTINUANCE
UM, SO YEAH, SO IT'LL BE QUICK FOR YOU ALL.
UM, BUT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH COMMISSIONER WATSON, UM, AND YOU KNOW, AS OF THIS AFTERNOON, I THINK WE'RE GONNA ASK FOR CONTINUANCE TO THE NEXT
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ZONING COMMISSION MEETING, WHICH WOULD BE DECEMBER 5TH.UM, WHILE I HAVE YOU HERE, I WILL TELL YOU JUST TWO MINUTES WHAT THE PROJECT IS.
UH, NATIONAL CONSTRUCTION RENTALS, THEY ARE COMPANY, NATIONAL COMPANY, UH, BUT THEY RENT THE FENCES.
YOU SEE THE PORTA-POTTIES YOU SEE, UM, AT CONSTRUCTION SITES, UM, ALL ACROSS THE CITY AND REALLY ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
UH, WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DO HERE, THEY OWN THIS BUILDING AND THIS PROPERTY AND THEY HAVE FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
UM, WHAT IS INSIDE THE BUILDING IS BASICALLY A DISCHARGE POINT FOR, UM, THE PORTA-POTTIES.
SO WHEN THEY, THEY HAVE A PORTA-POTTY AT A FACILITY, THEY GO AND THEY PICK UP THE WASTE AND THEN THEY HAVE TO DUMP IT.
AND SO THAT'S WHY IT'S VERY LIMITED INTO AS TO WHERE, WHAT THE SPACE IS.
AGAIN, IT'S INSIDE THE BUILDING, IT IS A, A CONNECTED POINT.
UM, SO THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S EXPOSED TO THE OUTSIDE.
UH, BUT WE CAN GET INTO MORE DETAIL ON THAT IN DECEMBER.
UM, BUT JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT IT IT IS.
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
THE NEXT, IT'S LIKE, OKAY, UH, COMMISSIONER WATSON, DO YOU FOR QUESTIONS? UM, QUICK QUESTION FOR STAFF, JUST FOR THE CONTEXT.
WE HAVE SOME NEW COMMISSIONERS.
UM, CAN YOU, UH, SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THIS, THIS SPECIFIC USE FOR SANITARY LANDFILL MEANS? AND IN TERMS IN TERMS OF THE TECHNICAL DEFINITION, SINCE IT IS A SPECIFIC USE IN A HIGHER INDUSTRIAL CATEGORY? RIGHT.
SO THIS JUST MEANS IT GIVES YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE AN EXTRA LOOK AT THE PROJECT BECAUSE OF THE POTENTIAL ADVERSE EFFECTS THAT COULD BE RELATED WITH THE USE.
SO JUST TO FIND THE, WHETHER IT'S SUITED TO THE AREA OR NOT.
AND CAN YOU, UM, GIVE ANY CONTEXT ON WHETHER THIS IS A RECENT INTERPRETATION CHANGE OR NO, IT'S NOT A RECENT INTERPRETATION.
IT'S, IT'S, UH, LISTED THAT WAY IN THE UDC MS. FAIRMONT, COULD YOU PLEASE? WELL, I, I DON'T WANNA ARGUE, BUT I THINK
BUT THIS TYPE OF USE DID NOT, THE, THE ACTUAL DUMPING DID NOT USED TO BE INTERPRETED AS A SANITARY LANDFILL.
THERE JUST, I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN PRESENTATIONS ON OTHER CASES THAT TRIGGERED AND BECAUSE OF THAT, THIS HAS ACTUALLY ALREADY BEEN BUILT, UH, WAS IN PROCESS GETTING PERMITS AND THEN THE INTERPRETATION ON THE OTHER CASES HAPPENED.
SO KIND OF WRAPPED UP IN THAT HAPPY TO, TO GO AND GET THE APPROPRIATE ZONING THAT WE NEED AND THEN SPECIFIC USE FOR THE CONDITIONS.
BUT JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.
JUST BECAUSE THIS IS NOT OUR FIRST RODEO IN MY DISTRICT WITH THIS, UM, AND NOT OUR FIRST RODEO WITH KGF EITHER, UM, REPRESENTING VARIOUS APPLICANTS JUST FOR NEW COMMISSIONERS.
SO YOU KIND OF KNOW THE BACKGROUND ON THESE PARTICULAR CASES.
UM, I THOUGHT THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL.
UM, I ALREADY, I KNEW THE ANSWERS TO THAT QUESTION.
UM, SO WE ARE, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION, WELL, WE'RE NOT DISCUSSION IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS QUESTIONS.
NONE, COMMISSIONER ON MY RIGHT? NONE.
BACK TO YOU, COMMISSIONER WATSON.
UM, SO I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, SUPPORT THE CONTINUANCE THROUGH, UH, DECEMBER 5TH, WHICH IS OUR NEXT ZONING HEARING.
UM, I, LIKE I SAID, NOT OUR FIRST RODEO WITH THIS.
THE S IS HELPFUL AS AN ADDITIONAL LOOK, UM, BECAUSE SANITARY LANDFILL IS SPECIFIC, UNLIKE SOME OF THE OTHER CASES WE'VE HAD IN EACH CASE SHOULD BE REVIEWED ON ITS OWN MERITS.
UM, THIS IS INSIDE A BUILDING.
THERE'S A LOT OF MITIGATING FACTORS HERE THAT COULD, UM, IMPACT, UM, WHETHER OR NOT SOMETHING IS INTERPRETED TO BE ADVERSE IMPACT ON QUALITY OF LIFE, ENVIRONMENTAL, COMMUNITY, FABRIC, ALL OF THOSE THINGS, UM, THAT WE'RE WILLING TO LOOK AT.
AS WELL AS THE FACT THAT THERE IS INDUSTRIAL IN THIS AREA.
I WOULD TAKE ISSUE WITH HIGH INTENSE AS LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT CONSIDERING EVERY INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY AROUND IT IS I ONE, UH, WHICH IS NOT BY DEFINITION HIGH INTENSITY.
UM, AND I DO THINK FOR THAT REASON IT SHOULD GET AN EXTRA LOOK.
UM, WE HAVE A HISTORY IN OUR DISTRICT OF GETTING, UH, USES PUT IN THAT EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY FIT DEVELOPMENT PATTERN, IF YOU ZOOM WAY OUT ON POLICY OBJECTIVES, END UP HAVING, UM, UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES THAT ARE ADVERSE AND RUNNING INTO CHALLENGES WITH COMMUNITY AND ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS, QUALITY OF LIFE DOWN THE ROAD.
UM, EVEN THOUGH IT'S IMMEDIATELY SURROUNDED BY INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES THAT IS ABOUT THREE BLOCKS FROM A RESIDENTIAL AREA, ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE FROM AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
UM, AND SO WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS DO IN FACT SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE THIS IS AS A POLICY ISSUE FOR OUR DISTRICT, A CONCERN.
UM, AND WE DO HAVE SEEN SOME NEGATIVE IMPACTS, UM, FROM THIS LAND USE.
SO WE'RE GONNA TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE OF THE, THE S GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT IT.
UM, AND HAVE, HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH, UM, THE APPLICANT ON WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR US TO SUPPORT THIS AS A DISTRICT, UM, TO PREVENT IT GETTING, YOU KNOW, WITHDRAWN RIGHT BEFORE COUNCIL AND SEE IF WE CAN COME TO AN AGREEMENT.
SO, UM, WITH THAT I'LL MAKE A, A MOTION FOR THE CONTINUANCE AND UH, YOU KNOW, OPEN THE FLOOR FOR, I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.
MOTION IS TO CONTINUE TO THE DECEMBER 5TH MEETING BY COMMISSIONER WATSON, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BOTTLES DISCUSSION LOOKING LEFT JUST TO
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COMMENT.UH, I KNOW SOMEONE HAS TO DO THIS BUSINESS, BUT I FAMILIAR WITH SEVERAL OF THESE TOILET COMPANIES AND I GOTTA TELL YOU, YOU WANT THEM INSIDE INDOOR BECAUSE IF THE WIND IS BLOWING, UH, IT BLOWS THE WRONG WAY, YOU CAN GET ALL THAT SMELL.
SO IDEALLY INDOOR IS THE BEST WAY.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? SO I GUESS JUST A QUESTION, IT'S THE RECYCLING OF THE STUFF IS DONE INSIDE IN A, IN A FACILITY? YES.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO TELL.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THIS PLAN, THIS HERE IS THE BUILDING, UM, AND THEN THIS IS THE AREA THAT WE'RE REZONING IN THE BUILDING.
AND THEN, OH NO, SORRY, HOW DO I GO? THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO THE NEXT ONE? NOPE, I THINK THAT'S THE LAST ONE.
I WAS THE, THE ONE BEFORE THAT.
SO YOU WOULD, THE TRUCK WOULD PULL IN OVER THIS TRENCH DRAIN CONNECT AND THEN IT GOES INTO THE SYSTEM, SEWAGE SYSTEM AND THEN THEY DRIVE OUT.
OKAY, SO IT GOES TO THE GRAY WATER AND SAWS FIXES IT.
YEAH, I WOULD THINK, AND AND A NOTABLE DIFFERENCE ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL COMPARED TO SOME OF THE OTHER ONES WE'VE SEEN IS THAT IT IS INSIDE A BUILDING INSTEAD OF JUST LIKE A STRUCTURE OUTSIDE THAT WAS AROUND AN EXISTING DRAIN.
SO LIKE THAT'S, THAT MITIGATION IS HELPFUL, BUT I MEAN THERE IS A DAIRY ACROSS, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NEXT DOOR.
AND IN ADDITION TO, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS EVEN SEVERAL BLOCKS OR EVEN UP TO A MILE AWAY HAVE HAVING ISSUES WITH THIS.
WE HAVE HAD PEOPLE COME HERE AND BE LIKE, I CANNOT WORK IN MY OFFICE BECAUSE I CAN SMELL, UM, WHAT IS GOING ON AND THAT, YOU KNOW, KNOW A LOT OF THE BUSINESSES ARE LOCALLY OWNED IN THIS AREA.
SO WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE GET FULL SUPPORT AND THEY'RE AWARE OF IT, UH, BEFORE WE, WE MOVE FORWARD.
DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.
AND I'M SURE THE, UH, THE TITLE ON THE PAGE WILL BE UPDATED WITH THE COVERED SPELLED CORRECTLY FOR THE NEXT SORRY.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S THE ARCHITECT IN ME.
I SEE THINGS AND I'M LIKE, I ALMOST TALKED ABOUT THE CHANGING DIRECTIONS OF NORTH ARROWS ON THE PREVIOUS CASE, BUT THE MOTION IS FOR A CONTINUANCE BY COMMISSIONER WATSON.
SECOND WAS COMMISSIONER BARTOS.
[Approval of Minutes ]
BELIEVE OUR FINAL ITEM IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.SO I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION OR ASK IF THERE ARE ANY CORRECTIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE.
MOTION TO MOTION APPROVE? YES.
COMMISSIONER WITT WITH A MOTION TO APPROVE.
I DON'T KNOW WHO, UH, COMMISSIONER FUENTES IS GONNA TAKE IT LAST.
UM, MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
[Director’s Report ]
DIRECTOR'S REPORT? JUST THAT THIS WAS YOUR MEETING FOR NOVEMBER.THANK YOU STAFF FOR KEEPING US ON TRACK AND, AND YOU'RE WELCOME.
AND WITH THAT, THE ZONING COMMISSION AT 4 22 IS ADJOURNED.