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I'M THE CHAIR OF THE BOARD HERE AT THE BSB.
COULD WE GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? I'M SORRY.
HOLD ON JUST A MINUTE, MS. RIGHT? YEAH.
ALSO PRESENT IN THE MEETING FROM THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ARE ERIC BURNS, ORLANDO MATA.
LUCINDA OROZCO, AND JOANNE FLORES FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND FROM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
AMIN TOMA, DEPUTY DIRECTOR DANNY LEGAS, CODE ENFORCEMENT ADMINISTRATOR.
ALICE GUDO, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES MANAGER JENNY RAMIREZ.
LIAISON ES ORTIZ, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES SPECIALIST.
AND MYSELF, JENNIFER MARTINEZ, ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT TWO CHAIR.
[ Approval of Minutes ]
OKAY.I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE MINUTES AS DRAFTED.
WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE A, UM, WE, WHAT DO WE, WE HAVE, OH, OKAY.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS WRITTEN.
DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY.
COULD WE GO TO ROLL CALL PLEASE? DWAYNE NELSON.
MINUTES APPROVED FROM THE VOTE OF 10 TO ZERO.
DO WE HAVE, UM, AND AYE FRED IS OVER HERE SCREWING ME UP WITH THE MICROPHONES.
DO WE HAVE INTERPRETATION SERVICES NOW? OKAY.
WELL NOW I'LL READ THE CHAIRMAN'S STATEMENT.
I JUST LEAVE IT ON THERE TO TALK.
PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES OR ANY DEVICE THAT MAY DISRUPT, UH, THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
NO PERSON SHALL, UH, SHALL DELAY OR DISRUPT THE PROCEEDINGS OR DISOBEY THE ORDER OF THE CHAIR.
IF ANYONE PRESENT WISHES TO SPEAK REGARDING ANY AGENDA ITEM, PLEASE SIGN IN ON THE, UH, PERSONS TO BE HEARD SHEET AND OR ADVISE A CODE OFFICER AND CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER MEMBER.
ALL PERSONS, UH, WISHING TO SPEAK SHALL BE, UH, CALLED FORWARD WHEN THEIR RESPECTIVE CASE IS REACHED.
PLEASE NOTE THAT IT IS UNLAWFUL FOR ANY PERSON, UH, PRESENT IN THIS BUILDING TO SOLICIT OR PEDAL SERVICES REGARDING, UH, ANY PROPERTY UNDER CONSIDERATION BY THIS BOARD DURING THIS COURSE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, AS THE AS CITY SECTION, UH, 16
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DASH, I'M SORRY.[ Briefing and Possible Action on the following items ]
OH, HOLD HARMLESS AGREEMENTS.I, GOOD MORNING BOARD MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS JENNY RAMIREZ, CODE ENFORCEMENT MANAGER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
I HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS CARRIED INTO THE RECORD THIS MORNING, IF I MAY PROCEED.
FIRST ITEM WILL BE A HOLD HARMLESS AGREEMENT.
THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1422 EAST CARSON IN COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO HAS VOLUNTARILY AGREED TO ALLOW THE CITY TO DEMOLISH THE STRUCTURE PURSUANT TO CHAPTER SIX DASH 15 NINE, SECTION FIVE.
NO FURTHER ACTION IS NEEDED BY THE BOARD AT THIS TIME.
THIS WAS SIGNED, UM, ON OCTOBER 27TH, 2023.
NEXT ITEM IS AN EMERGENCY DEMOLITION.
TO READ THE RECORD, THE STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 1351 BRADY BOULEVARD WAS DEMOLISHED AS AN EMERGENCY ON OCTOBER 31ST, 2023 DUE TO A FIRE WHICH OCCURRED ON OCTOBER 26TH, 2023.
PURSUANT TO CHAPTER SIX DASH 1 75, NO FURTHER ACTION IS NEEDED BY THE BOARD AT THIS TIME.
THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN COUNCIL DISTRICT FIVE.
THAT DOES COMPLETE MY REPORT UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE PROPERTIES.
DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO.
OKAY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, WE'RE GOING INTO, UH, EXECUTIVE SESSION.
AND THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD WILL CONVENE INTO, UH, EXECUTIVE SESSION.
IT IS NOW 9 43 45, I'M SORRY, 45, 9 40 5:00 AM AND THE BUILDING, THE BUILDING STANDARDS WILL, WILL RECONVENE AND IT'S NORMAL MEETING.
NO, UH, NO EXECUTIVE, NO ACTION WAS TAKEN IN THE, UH, EXECUTIVE SESSION.
NO OTHER COMMENTS ARE AVAILABLE.
READY AND NO PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE AVAILABLE.
UH, FRED WANTS TO MAKE A, A STATEMENT ABOUT SOMETHING THAT HE ASKED ME.
SO, MR. ANDERS HAS THE BOARD, UH, HAS THE FLOOR NOW.
ALRIGHT, SINCE, UM, WE'RE GETTING READY TO HEAR A LOT OF, UH, INPUT ON OUR NEXT SESSIONS COMING UP.
I I JUST WANNA THANK ALL OF YOU FOR SHOWING UP AND BEFORE, BECAUSE SOME OF YOU'RE GONNA GIVE TESTIMONY OR, OR INFORMATION AND THEN EXIT.
UH, WE DEEPLY APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION YOU'RE GONNA GIVE US.
IT HELPS US MAKE DECISIONS A LOT EASIER.
PREVIOUSLY, WE DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF THE INFORMATION YOU GUYS HAVE.
WE JUST HEAR THE CASE AT THE END OF IT.
BUT THIS IS PUTTING PIECES OF THE PUZZLE TOGETHER FOR US AND WE DEEPLY APPRECIATE IT.
AND I'M GONNA SAY THIS TO THE OFFICERS ESPECIALLY.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICES OUT THERE.
WE APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU FOR GIVING US THE TIME TO INFORM US SO WE MAKE BETTER DECISIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY.
I THANK ALL OF YOU AND WE DEEPLY APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.
WE REALLY, REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT.
WHAT DO WE HAVE NEXT ON THE AGENDA? IT'S THE, UM, ELECTION OF, UH, BOARD MEMBERS.
YOU WANNA GO TO ADMINISTRATIVE? MADAM CHAIR? I, I, UH, PROPOSE WE DO THAT IN ADMINISTRATIVE AND, AND ALLOW THESE PEOPLE TO PRESENT THEIR TEST OR EVIDENCE, AND THEN WE CAN, UM, HAVE THAT IN ADMINISTRATIVE AND IT WON'T HOLD THEM UP.
IS THAT OKAY WITH YOU? ILLEGAL LEGAL.
I'M, I'M, I LIKE TO GIVE PAUSE AND THOUGHT BEFORE I SAY SOMETHING.
UM, SO YOU WANT TO DO THE ELECTION OF THE BOARD CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR AT THE END DURING ADMINISTRATIVE.
THAT WAY ALL THESE PEOPLE CAN DO THEIR INFORMATION AND THEN THEY CAN GO BACK TO THEIR DAILY OPERATIONS.
SO THE NEXT THING ON THE AGENDA IS, UM, DEPUTY DIRECTOR'S REPORT.
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ALL GOOD MORNING CHAIR AND BOARD MEMBERS.SO FIRST OF ALL, I'M GONNA DO LIKE FRED DID, SO I WANNA THANK ALL THE VETERANS HERE FOR YOUR SERVICES, TOMORROW'S VETERANS DAY.
SO AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE OR IF YOU'RE STILL ACTIVE, WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
UM, SO AGAIN, AGAIN, I'LL GO OVER SOME OF THE NUMBERS AND BASICALLY OUR PERFORMANCE METRICS FROM THIS LAST YEAR, FY 23.
I MIGHT TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE AND EXPLAIN FEW THINGS HERE BECAUSE I KNOW THERE IS FEW NEW MEMBERS ON THE BOARD.
UH, BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE STOP ME AND ASK ME ANY QUESTIONS.
SO WHAT, WHAT WE REPORT BASICALLY AT THE END OF NORMALLY EVERY WEEK, EVERY MONTH, BUT TECHNICALLY AT THE END OF THE YEAR, WE DO REPORT THE NUMBER OF INSPECTIONS THAT WE DID.
AND WE HAVE TWO TYPES OF INSPECTIONS, PROACTIVE INSPECTIONS AND REACTIVE.
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE IS REACTIVE INSPECTIONS ARE THE CASES THAT WE GET CALLED FOR.
SO IF A CITIZEN NEEDS US OR THEY SEE VIOLATION, THEY CALL 3 1 1 AND THEN WE RECEIVE THAT, UH, CASE AND WE GO DO THE INVESTIGATION AND TAKE CARE OF IT.
THAT IS A REACTIVE CALL WHILE THE OFFICER IS IN THE FIELD RESPONDING TO REACTIVE CALLS IF THEY SEE ANYTHING ON THEIR WAY THERE OR AT THE LOCATION AND THEY CREATE A CASE.
SO AGAIN, THAT'S WHY YOU SEE ON, ON THE EXCEL SPREADSHEET HERE.
ONE IS REACTIVE AND ONE PROACTIVE.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE LOOK AT THE TOTAL AMOUNT.
SO THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF, UH, CASES WE DID IS OVER 160,000 CASES.
AND JUST LOOKING BACK AT FY 21 AND FY 2221, WE HAD 107,022, WE HAD 130, UH, THIS YEAR, AGAIN, OVER 164,000.
SO OBVIOUSLY WE ARE REALLY BUSY, UH, AND WE ARE TAKING CARE OF A LOT OF CASES.
THE THREE PERFORMANCE MEASURES THAT WE DO LOOK AT AND WE GRADE OURSELF.
HOW DO WE KNOW WE ARE DOING GOOD JOB? UH, NUMBER ONE IS THE RESPONSE TIME.
SO BASICALLY WHEN WE RECEIVE A CALL FROM THREE ONE ONE, WE NEED TO RESPOND QUICKLY.
SO COUNCIL, UH, GAVE US GOALS AND THEY SAID WE HAVE TO RESPOND TO TIER ONES, WHICH THOSE ARE THE LIFE SAFETY CASES.
WE HAVE TO RESPOND TO THOSE IN MAXIMUM TWO DAYS.
TIER TWOS, THOSE ARE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE, UH, CASES WE HAVE TO RESPOND WITHIN THREE DAYS.
SO AGAIN, AT THE END OF FY 23, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UH, TABLE HERE, WE MET BOTH OF THEM.
SO TIER ONES AND TIER TWOS, WE DID RESPOND AND TWO, TWO DAY AVERAGE ON BOTH OF THEM.
THE SECOND ITEM WE LOOK AT IS THE PROACTIVENESS.
SO AGAIN, WHAT THAT MEANS IS HOW MANY CASES WE PROACTIVELY FOUND COMPARED TO HOW MANY CASES WE ARE GETTING FROM 3 1 1.
SO IT'S KIND OF THE PERCENTAGE BETWEEN REACTIVE AND PROACTIVE CASES.
WE ARE REQUIRED TO GET UP TO 65%.
SO BASICALLY IN, IN AN EASY WAY, EVERY TIME I GET A CALL TO RESPOND TO, I HAVE TO DO TWO PROACTIVE ONES, ONE EQUAL TO TWO.
SO THAT WILL GIVE ME THE 65% OR 66%.
SO AGAIN, WE ENDED THE YEAR AT 71%.
AGAIN, LOOKING BACK AT FY 21 AND 22, WE WERE AT 37%.
SO WE DIDN'T MEET THE GOAL THAT YEAR.
AGAIN, WE DIDN'T MEET THAT GOAL, UH, IN THE LAST TWO YEARS BASICALLY.
BUT THIS YEAR WE, WE MET THE GOAL AND EXCEEDED THAT.
THE LAST ONE IS COMPLIANCE RATE.
WHAT THAT MEANS IS, FROM THE START, WHEN WE GET THE GOAL TILL THE FINISH, UH, IF THAT CASE OR THAT VIOLATION IS CORRECTED, WE WANT THOSE VIOLATIONS CORRECTED WITHIN 45 DAYS.
UH, 90% OF THEM, OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE WE, WE CANNOT DO A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE CASES AND CLOSE THEM IN 45 DAYS.
SO WE NEED 90% OF THOSE TO BE CLOSED, UH, WITHIN THE 45 DAYS.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE DID NOT MEET THAT GOAL.
WE ARE CLOSE THOUGH AGAIN, LOOKING BACK IN 21, WE WERE AT 74%.
22, WE ARE, WE ENHANCED A LITTLE TO 76.
SO HOPEFULLY NEXT YEAR WE ARE BACK ON TRACK.
AND AGAIN, JUST A REMINDER, FY 21 AND 22, THE REASON FOR THOSE NUMBERS, OBVIOUSLY EVERYBODY KNOWS COVID.
WE HAD A LOT OF VACANCIES, ALL THOSE KIND OF CONDITIONS.
SO AGAIN, NOW WE ARE FULLY STAFFED ALMOST, I THINK WE HAVE THE NORMAL VACANCY.
SOME PEOPLE PROMOTE, SOME PEOPLE RETIRE.
SO WE ARE ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE CODE OFFICERS.
SHORT, YOU KNOW, AS WE GO, COMPARED TO WHEN
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COVID HIT, WE HAD LIKE 40 POSITIONS VACANT BASICALLY.SO AGAIN, UH, I'M, I'M REALLY PROUD OF THE TEAM AND I'M GLAD, UH, THAT, THAT WE ARE AT 83% ON COMPLIANCE RATE.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT CODE ENFORCEMENT NUMBERS? HOPEFULLY I EXPLAINED IT ENOUGH TO, TO MAKE SENSE.
AGAIN, I, I KNOW IF YOU'RE NOT IN THIS BUSINESS, SOMETIMES YOU, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.
UH, THE OTHER ONE, UNDER, UNDER THE FIELD SERVICES, UH, CODE ENFORCEMENT, WE DO HAVE THE GRAFFITI TEAM, THE GRAFFITI ABATEMENT TEAM.
ONE IS WE NEED TO GET 50,000, UH, SITES AND WE NEED TO RESPOND TO THOSE WITHIN THREE DAYS.
UH, THIS LAST YEAR WE ACTUALLY DID 60,000, UH, SITES.
AND WE DID RESPOND WITHIN ONE DAY BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT, UH, THE GRAFFITI, YOU, YOU CAN SEE WE NORMALLY RESPOND IN ONE DAYS.
THERE WAS ONE MONTH IN FEBRUARY, AND THEN IN APRIL WE HIT TWO DAYS BECAUSE WE ARE DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB.
WHEN WE WENT TO COUNCIL THIS YEAR BEFORE THEY ADOPTED THE BUDGET, THEY DO REVIEW ALL THE PERFORMANCE NUMBERS FOR ALL THE DEPARTMENTS, NOT JUST US.
AND THEY SAID, YOU'RE DOING REALLY GOOD.
WE WANNA CHANGE THAT GOAL OF THREE DAYS DOWN TO ONE.
AND WE WERE LIKE, NO, PLEASE DON'T.
SO OUR NEW GOAL FOR NEXT YEAR, FOR THIS YEAR FOR, UM, THE GRAFFITI IS WE NEED TO RESPOND IN TWO DAYS INSTEAD OF THREE.
WHICH AGAIN, I THINK WE ARE MEETING THAT ANYWAYS, BUT I DON'T WANNA PUT ONE BECAUSE IF WE MISS IT ONE OR TWO MONTHS, THE TEAM MORALE GOES DOWN.
THEY FEEL LIKE, OH, WE COULDN'T DO THE JOB.
AND, YOU KNOW, BUT I THINK TWO DAYS IS TOTALLY FINE.
SO NEXT YEAR YOU'LL SEE THAT GOAL WILL BE CHANGED TO TWO, TWO DAYS.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT GRAFFITI? UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO KNOW IF YOU KNOW OFFHAND OR HAVE THE NUMBERS ON THE BREAKDOWN BY DISTRICT ON WHERE THOSE GRAFFITI SITES ARE? FOR WHICH GRAFFITI GRAFFITI CODE? WELL, ACTUALLY BOTH.
YEAH, WE CAN, WE CAN PRO, I DON'T HAVE IT ON HAND NOW, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY PROVIDE YOU THAT INFORMATION.
MR. AMIN, I HAVE ONE SUGGESTION.
WHEN IT SAYS TOTAL TIME, FIRST PERSON WHO'S LOOKING AT THAT DOESN'T UNDERSTAND ITS DAYS WE DO, COULD YOU PUT IN PARENTHESES DAYS WHERE IT SAYS TOTAL TIME FOR THE BOTTOM LINE, TOTAL, UH, TURNAROUND TIME.
BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE FIRST LOOKING AT IT, IF YOU DON'T KNOW ITS DAYS.
SO, YES, WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TIME, IT'S DAYS, NOT MINUTES, HOURS, SECONDS.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, BUT NOT WITH THE METRICS.
WAS THAT THE, UH, WEST END PARK SENIOR CENTER? OH, ABOUT A FEW WEEKS BACK.
AND, UH, IN THEIR PLAY AREA, THIS IS WHERE THE, THE KIDS COME PLAY, UH, IS BASKETBALL COURTS.
AND, UH, THEY HAD AN AT T EQUIPMENT BOX, IT'S LOW VOLTAGE BOX, IT'S WIDE OPEN.
THEY CONTACT THEIR PERSON, THEY COME OUT, CONTACTED CODE, THEIRS COME OUT AND THEY STILL HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET THAT RESOLVED YET.
I KNOW THAT IN, IN THE CODE THERE IS AN ISSUE WORKMANSHIP SOMETHING THAT COULD SIGN THE QUESTION.
I'M, IS THAT BEEN AN ISSUE? AND, AND WONDER WHETHER OR NOT WE COULD DO SOMETHING HERE TO HELP THEM.
UM, I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S VERY SPECIFIC CASE.
SO WE CAN DEFINITELY GET WITH YOU, GET EXACTLY THE LOCATION.
AND WHEN YOU SAID YOU CALLED, I GUESS EVERYBODY, I GUESS, AND, AND NOTHING HAPPENED.
WH WHAT, WHAT'S THE EXPECTATION? WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING TO HAPPEN? I THINK THEY JUST HAVE ATT COME OUT AND REPAIR THEIR, THEIR ENCLOSURE BOX SO NO ONE CAN OH, OKAY.
SO THE ISSUE IS AN AT AND T BOX ITSELF, BASICALLY, IT IS BASICALLY VOLTAGE BOX, BASICALLY.
THAT'S WHO YOU NEED TO CALL OR, OR, I MEAN, WE CAN HELP, WE CAN CALL FOR YOU, BUT RIGHT.
WE, WE DON'T HAVE AUTHORITY TO WORK ON THEIR BOX OR DO ANYTHING.
I MEAN, WE CAN NOTIFY THEM, BUT THAT'S ABOUT IT.
YEAH, NO, I JUST, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE CODE TREATS THEM DIFFERENTLY SINCE THEY ARE, UM, UTILITY COMPANY.
AND THEY, THEY TEND TO ALLOW THE, THE UTILITY TO, TO DEAL WITH IT.
BUT I THINK IN THIS CASE WHERE IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE, IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE, THEY'RE JUST ABANDONING THEIR RESPONSIBILITY THAT AT SOME POINT IT, IT, I BELIEVE IT SHOULD COME BACK INTO THE, SHOULD COME INTO THIS BOARD AND FOR US TO, TO, TO CONSIDER TO SEE WHAT WE SHOULD DO.
GIVE, GIVE, GIVE US A CHANCE TO REACH OUT TO AT AND T AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN RESOLVE THE ISSUE.
I DON'T WANNA BRING IT TO YOU 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW HONESTLY IF I HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO BRING IT TO YOU OR NOT, BUT I DON'T WANNA EVEN DISCUSS THAT WE WILL HELP TO SOLVE THE ISSUE AND THAT THAT WILL BE THE BEST APPROACH.
UM, I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING THE, UM, COMPLIANCE RATE.
AND, UM, THE, THE, BASICALLY WHAT I'M INTERESTED IN, IN KNOWING IS
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IN THIS SCENARIO WHERE YOU ARE REQUIRING COMPLIANCE FOR A CODE VIOLATION, UM, WHAT ARE THE RESOURCES THAT YOU ARE GIVING TO THE PERSON, THE AVERAGE TYPES OF RESOURCES AND THE TURNAROUND TIME THAT YOU'RE GIVING TO THAT PERSON? UM, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? AND WHEN YOU SAY PERSON, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT RESOURCES TO MY CODE OFFICERS OR RESOURCES TO CITIZENS? LIKE WHAT, WHAT, WELL, I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHEN YOU'RE SAYING COMPLIANCE, ARE YOU TALKING TO YOUR CODE OFFICERS TO SAY THAT THIS NEEDS TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE? YES.SO BEFORE MY TIME HERE, LONG TIME AGO, APPARENTLY, UH, EVEN BEFORE CODE MERGED WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, UM, THE WAY THEY DID IT IS THEY HAD A GOAL TO CLOSE THE CASES.
SO CLOSING THE CASE DOES NOT MEAN THE ISSUE IS RESOLVED.
SO LET'S SAY SOME, LET'S SAY WE RECEIVE A CALL FOR ALLOCATION 1901 SOUTH ALAMO, THIS BUILDING TALL GRASS, RIGHT? WE OPEN THE CASE, WE DO OUR IN INSPECTION, WE NOTIFY THE OWNER SAYING, HEY, YOU HAVE 10 DAYS TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE.
10 DAYS PASS BY THE ISSUE'S STILL THERE, WE ISSUE CITATIONS, WE GO TO COURT, ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING.
AND THE REASON WHY WE DID THAT IS IT'S QUICKER TURNAROUND THAN DOING CRIMINAL CASES.
UH, NORMALLY WE GO TO COURT WITHIN, I WOULD SAY THREE TO FOUR WEEKS.
UM, IF AGAIN, THEY DON'T RESOLVE IT BY THEN, WE HAVE CONTRACTORS, APPROVED CONTRACTORS THAT WE CAN HIRE TO ABATE THAT ISSUE.
SO OUR GOAL, I'M GOING THROUGH THE WHOLE THING, BUT OUR GOAL IS FROM DAY ONE TILL THE GRASS IS CUT, IN THIS EXAMPLE, IT'S DONE WITHIN 45 DAYS.
WE WANT THE, UH, VIOLATION, ABATED OR CORRECTED WITHIN 45 DAYS, 90% OF THE CASES THAT WE RECEIVE, WE WANNA COMPLETE THEM, CLOSE THEM.
IF WE DO IT OR THE OWNER DOES IT, IT'S FINE.
WE JUST WANT COMPLIANCE WITHIN THE 45 DAYS.
HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION.
I KIND OF WANNA GO BACK, IT'S KIND OF A COMBINATION BETWEEN THE TWO, BUT WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN IT'S UTILITY COMPANY, WHETHER IT'S CPS OR AT AND T OR WHAT, WHATEVER COMPANY OR IF IT'S A CITY PROPERTY, THIS IS A CITY PROPERTY.
SO WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN IT'S THE CITY? I MEAN, ANY, ANY VIOLATION IS VIOLATION.
SO IF, IF IT'S WITHIN THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE THAT WE ADOPTED, WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO ENFORCE THAT.
SO IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S CITY PROPERTY, UTILITY COMPANY OR NOT.
AGAIN, THE ISSUE THAT, UH, YOU TALKED ABOUT IS, SOUNDS TO ME IT'S THE ISSUE WITHIN THE BOX ITSELF.
SO THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE.
THAT'S WHY I SAID THE BEST SOLUTION IS TO REACH OUT TO THEM AND TRY TO SOLVE IT.
IF, LET'S SAY UTILITY COMPANY OR CITY PROPERTY HAS TALL GRASS, AGAIN, I'M USING OUR BUILDING, 1901 SOUTH ALAMO, WE WILL GET SAME TREATMENT.
WE, WE GET A NOTICE YOU HAVE TO CUT YOUR GRASS IN 10 DAYS.
IF YOU DON'T, I MEAN, WE GO THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS, SO IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO THE OWNER IS, BUT AGAIN, THE ISSUE THAT YOU PRESENTED IS AN ISSUE WITHIN THE BOX OF A UTILITY COMPANY.
SO THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE ISSUE.
I JUST WANT TO, TO STRESS THAT.
WE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A PLAY AREA WHERE, WHERE CHILDREN ARE AROUND AND IT IS SITTING PROPERTY, THEY HAVE BEEN TRYING FOR QUITE A WHILE NOW.
I THINK THEY'RE ON ALMOST A HALF A YEAR TO TRY TO GET THE, THE BOX, YOU KNOW, UH, REPAIRED SO IT CAN BE CLOSED.
WELL, THE, THE THING THAT STOOD OUT IS HE SAID LOW VOLTAGE.
SO THE, IT, THIS IS, UH, AN ISSUE WHERE A CHILD COULD GET ELECTROCUTED.
WHAT IS THE PROCESS OF CODE WHERE YOU CANNOT TOUCH THEIR BOX WITH AN ABATEMENT? SO WHAT DO YOU DO? WELL, I, I THINK THE GOOD NEWS, HE SAID IT'S LOW VOLTAGE, SO YOU GET, YOU GET SMALL SHOCK, BUT YOU DON'T, IT'S NOT DEADLY.
I'M GLAD IT'S NOT HIGH VOLTAGE.
THAT'S, THAT'S, I MEAN, THAT'S IMPORTANT.
WELL, IT, IT, THE ASSUMPTION IS LOW VOLTAGE, BUT KNOW THAT THE RING SIGNAL IS UP TO 120 VOLTS, UH, AC THAT THEY, THEY SEND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE, OF COURSE, THE HARDWIRED PHONE SYSTEMS, WHICH WE DON'T USE MUCH.
AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE BATTERY BACKED UP TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE, THEY RUN ALL THE TIME, BUT IT'S STILL, IT IS CONSIDERED LOW VOLTAGE, BUT YOU STILL HAVE 127 VOLT POTENTIAL THERE.
SO AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED, UM, NOBODY GETS SPECIAL TREATMENT.
IF THERE IS VIOLATION AND IT IS WITHIN OUR AUTHORITY, WE WILL FOLLOW UP ON THAT.
UH, AGAIN, IN THIS EXAMPLE, TILL NOW, I'M, I'M STILL THINKING IT'S NOT PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE, BUT WE WILL HELP TO RESOLVE THAT ISSUE, ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT NECESSARILY WITHIN OUR JURISDICTION, IF YOU WILL.
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OKAY.ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? HARDLY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO.
WHO'S NEXT? UH, ALL RIGHT, HERE WE GO.
I DART OUR FAVORITE CASES HERE.
I'M THE ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY, AND I AM HEAD OF THE DART UNIT.
AND WHAT I WANTED TO DO TODAY IS JUST PRESENT TO YOU, A LOT OF PROPERTIES, UM, ARE BEFORE, UH, PRESENTED IN FRONT OF THIS BOARD, UH, ARE, UH, A RESULT OF A A DART UNIT INSPECTION.
UM, I DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY HERE UNDERSTANDS WHAT DART IS ALL ABOUT, UM, WHAT THE UNIT'S GOALS ARE.
UM, AND ALSO I DID BRING, UM, AND ASKED A FEW PEOPLE TO BE HERE TO BE PRESENT THAT ARE ALSO PART OF, OF DART OR ALUMNI OF DART.
DART STANDS FOR DANGEROUS ASSESSMENT RESPONSE TEAM.
IT IS A TARGETED APPROACH TO ADDRESSING THE WORST OF THE WORST PUBLIC NUISANCE PROPERTIES.
CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME IF I DO THIS OR DO I HAVE TO USE A MICROPHONE? CAN YOU HEAR ME? CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME? HEARD TRANSITION.
I NEED ONE OF THOSE HANDHELD, I LIKE TO WALK AROUND.
IT IS A MULTI-AGENCY TASK FORCE THAT THEY NEED THE MICROPHONE BE GOTCHA TRANSLATION.
I, I WILL START MOVING IT AND TAKING IT LIKE THIS IF I NEED TO.
IT'S A MULTI-AGENCY TASK FORCE DESIGNED TO TARGET THE WORST OF THE WORST PUBLIC NUISANCE PROPERTIES IN THE CITY.
THE PRIMARY OBJECTIVE IS TO IDENTIFY, INVESTIGATE THESE PROPERTIES, ABATE THE NUISANCE THROUGH A COORDINATED AND COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH, AND UTILIZE ALL AVAILABLE REMEDIES TO ELIMINATE THE NUISANCE.
DO YOU WANT DO IT? OH, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
OH, YOU GOTTA KEEP, I'LL KEEP MY HAND ON IF I, HOW ABOUT THIS? CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME? PERFECT.
SO THE GOAL TO RECLAIM, RESTORE AND REVITALIZE.
WHEN WE RECLAIM, WE WANT TO DISRUPT AND DISPLACE THE CRIMINAL AND VAGRANT ELEMENT.
WE WANT TO RESTORE ALL ABATEMENT TO ALL WE WANT TO, WE, SORRY ABOUT THAT.
IN REGARDS TO RESTORING, WE WANT TO ABATE ALL CODE VIOLATIONS.
IT'S THE BROKEN WINDOWS THEORY.
AND WHAT WE MEAN BY THAT THEORY IS THAT IF YOU ALLOW A BUILDING OR A STRUCTURE TO HAVE BROKEN WINDOWS AND THEY STAY BROKEN, IT'S ONLY GOING TO GET WORSE.
THEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE VAGRANTS COMING IN, THEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE POSSIBLY HAVE THE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.
THAT DETERIORATION OF THE STRUCTURE, COMPOSITION OF THE DART UNIT.
THESE ARE THE AGENCIES THAT HELP MAKE UP THE DART UNIT.
THE DART UNIT IS RUN OUT OF THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
SO HEAD HONCHO OF THE DART UNIT IS ANDY SEGOVIA, THE CITY ATTORNEY.
HE'S THE HEAD HONCHO, ALTHOUGH HE DOESN'T DO ALL IT'S RUN OUTTA HIS OFFICE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, EXCUSE ME.
WE USE DSD, SO WE DEFINITELY USE THE DANGEROUS PREMISE SIDE AND CODE ENFORCEMENT OR CODE COMPLIANCE.
THE DART UNIT HAS MULTIPLE DILAPIDATED STRUCTURES OR DANGEROUS STRUCTURE PERSONNEL, AND WE HAVE MULTIPLE S-A-P-M-C, UH, CODE OFFICERS.
WELL, ACTUALLY I THINK WE HAVE ONE, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT COMPRISED OF SAFE OFFICERS, WHICH WE HAVE IN THE BACK WITH US RIGHT HERE.
WE ALSO USE AND SAFE OFFICERS MAKE THE DETERMINATION IF WE NEED TO USE SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL UNITS, RAVEN, WHICH IS THE, UH, DRONE UNIT,
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STREET CRIMES, AND SWAT FOR PROPERTIES THAT ARE OPPOSING MORE OF A DANGER, A CRIMINAL DANGER.UM, WE RECENTLY USED SWAT UNIT FOR A PROPERTY THAT THE DART UNIT INSPECTED ON TUESDAY.
AND THEN LAST, BUT NOT LEAST, IF WE HAVE SOME TYPE OF MENTAL HEALTH COMPONENT, IF WE DO HAVE A DOCUMENTED HISTORY OR CALLS FOR SERVICE IN REGARDS TO, UH, SOMEONE THAT HAS, UH, MENTAL HEALTH, UH, ISSUES OR DEPENDENCIES OR, OR PROBLEMS, CHALLENGES.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE THE MENTAL HEALTH UNIT THAT ASSISTS US.
NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICES, NHSD.
NOT ONLY ARE THEY GOING TO PRESENT TO YOU TODAY, UM, ALONG WITH, UH, DHS AS PART OF IT, BUT THE REASON I WANT TO SPOTLIGHT BOTH OF THESE GROUPS IS BECAUSE WHAT THE DART UNIT DID, IN ADDITION TO ADDRESSING THE PROBLEM, WE ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT SOME OF THE, UH, THE NUISANCE ISSUES AT THAT PROPERTY MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY BE, UM, THE CAUSE OF THE OWNER OR A TENANT OR EVEN AN OCCUPANT.
THERE MIGHT BE OTHER ISSUES GOING ON, UM, THAT WE HAVE GONE TO PROPERTIES WHERE, UH, THERE IS AN ELDERLY PERSON THAT'S LIVING THERE.
THEY'RE BEING TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF BY, UH, SOME OF THEIR RELATIVES.
UM, THEY'RE LIVING IN DEPLORABLE CONDITIONS.
IF WE HAVE A HOUSE THAT IS A VACANT STRUCTURE OR ABANDONED, AND WE HAVE SOME PERSONS THAT ARE HOMELESS AND HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET ANY HELP OR ASSISTANCE, WE'RE BRINGING IT TO THEM.
SO WHILE WE ARE ADDRESSING THOSE NUISANCE PROPERTIES, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ALSO ADDRESSING THE HUMAN COMPONENT, AND THAT THERE ARE PERSONS THAT NEED HELP JUST BECAUSE IT IS A NUISANCE PROPERTY OR A DART PROPERTY DOES NOT MAKE IT JUST FLAT OUT CRIMINAL.
THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES THAT ARE GOING ON.
SAFETY BEING NUMBER ONE, SAFETY IS DEFINITELY BEING THE NUMBER ONE.
THERE HAVE BEEN A FEW TIMES WHERE THE DART UNIT HAS GONE OUT TO A PROPERTY WHERE WE'VE, IT'S BEEN DETERMINED BASED ON, UH, WHAT MENTAL HEALTH UNIT IS TELLING US IS THAT THIS PERSON NEEDS SOME SERIOUS HELP.
WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS WE NEED TO DO IS, NO, IT NO LONGER NEEDS TO BE A DART PROPERTY, BECAUSE IF IT'S A DART PROPERTY, IT'S NO LONGER ELIGIBLE.
SOME FOR SOME OF THE, THE PROGRAMS THAT NHSD AND DHS MIGHT BE ABLE TO ASSIST WITH OR THE CITY AND AS A WHOLE, ANIMAL CARE SERVICES.
ANIMAL CARE SERVICES ARE VERY IMPORTANT.
YOU WILL SEE THAT IN THIS, UM, UH, PRESENTATION.
BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE ANIMAL CARE, NOT ONLY FOR THE CRUELTY OF ANIMALS, BUT ALSO IF THERE ARE ANIMALS THAT ARE BEING AGGRESSIVE.
WE ALREADY KNOW ABOUT THE, UH, THE GROWING PROBLEM OF A DOG ATTACKS HERE IN THE CITY.
SO WE NOT ONLY ADDRESS THE CRUELTY TO THOSE ANIMALS, BUT ALSO THE AGGRESSIVENESS OF ANIMALS TOWARDS OTHER, UH, MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE HOLD THE OWNERS RESPONSIBLE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
WE COULDN'T GO INTO A COM, A COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE OR SOME OF THE, UH, DEAL WITH SOME OF THE UNSANITARY CONDITIONS AT SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES WITHOUT HEALTH.
SO HEALTH HAS BEEN WITH US, UM, FOR A REALLY LONG TIME, AND I APPRECIATE THEM.
AND THEY'RE ALSO HERE TODAY, AND I'LL INTRODUCE THEM IN A MINUTE.
TABC, WHEN WE GO INTO A BAR, TABC IS WITH US.
THEY DON'T GO TO EVERY PROPERTY THAT WE GO TO, BUT WE DEFINITELY MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE CONTACT WITH IT AND COMMUNICATION, SEE IF THERE'S SOME ISSUES THAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH, WITH THE SAME TYPE OF PROPERTY.
UM, WE DID THAT WITH, UH, TWIN SISTERS.
I ALSO THINK WE DID IT WITH, UH, A COUPLE OF THE, UH, RECENT HOOKAH LOUNGING PROPERTIES THAT THE DART UNIT HIT.
AND THEN OF COURSE, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
THESE ARE THE TYPE OF PROPERTIES THAT I, I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW IF THERE'S A PROPERTY THAT WE HAVEN'T GONE AFTER RESIDENTIAL.
UM, MULTI-FAMILY, APARTMENTS, HOTELS, BARS, UM, STRIP CLUBS, GENTLEMAN'S CLUBS, MASSAGE PARLORS.
UM, WE'VE BEEN TO VACANT STRUCTURES.
WE'VE BEEN TO STRUCTURES THAT ARE USED FOR PROSTITUTION.
UM, AND WE'VE EVEN BEEN TO THE HOARDING SITUATIONS.
SO THERE ISN'T, IF IT IS A STRUCTURE AND IS IT IS CAUSING A NUISANCE TO THE, THE, THE COMMUNITY, AND WE HAVE THE, UH, THE ABILITY TO, TO DO AN INSPECTION ON THAT PROPERTY.
IT MEETS OUR CRITERIA, THEN WE'RE GONNA GO.
AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THIS BOARD UNDERSTANDS OUR CRITERIA.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE A TWO YEAR HISTORY.
IT CAN'T BE, THERE WAS SOME POLICE CALLS FOR THIS PROPERTY, AND, AND THEY'VE BEEN, MAYBE THEY HAD 50 CALLS IN THREE YEARS.
BUT IF THOSE 50 CALLS WERE FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, LOUD MUSIC OR, OR A DRIVE BY,
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OR THEY DID A WELFARE CHECK, I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW IF THAT RISES TO THE OCCASION OF A, OF A DART INSPECTION OR LOOKING FOR CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, GANG RELATED ACTIVITY, NARCOTICS, SHOOTINGS, DISTURBANCES, VIOLENCE.BUT IF IT HAS ALL THOSE THINGS, BUT THAT HOUSE OR THAT STRUCTURE WHERE THAT THOSE PROBLEMS ARE HAPPENING HAS NO CODE HISTORY, WE HAVE A PROBLEM.
THE DART UNIT'S, UM, ABILITY TO GET A WARRANT IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE WARRANT.
SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE CODE ISSUES.
CODE IS THE ONE THAT OBTAINS THE WARRANT, IF YOU RECALL, AND PUT IT TOGETHER.
I'M AN ATTORNEY FOR CODE AND FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
SO THIS, UM, FORMS OUT OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND CODE.
WE CANNOT GO ONTO A PROPERTY IF THERE, IF THERE AREN'T SERIOUS CODE ISSUES.
AND WHAT I MEAN BY SERIOUS CODE ISSUES, WE'RE NOT GOING AFTER A PROPERTY THAT HAS TALL GRASS AND THEY WON'T CUT THEIR GRASS FOR A YEAR.
WE ARE GOING AFTER THERE WITH PROPERTIES THAT HAVE, UH, DETERIORATING STRUCTURE, UM, THAT HAVE, UH, ARE PRESENTING THREATS TO THE COMMUNITY THAT POSE A DANGER TO HEALTH AND SAFETY.
SO IF YOU HAVE A JUNKYARD IN YOUR BACKYARD AND IT'S BEEN THERE FOR, UM, FOR TWO YEARS, AND WE HAVE THE CODE HISTORY AND YOU'VE BEEN UNABLE TO WORK IT OUT WITH CODE, MOST LIKELY THAT PROPERTY'S ALREADY BEEN BROUGHT TO DART OR WE'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT IT UNIQUE ASPECTS OF DART, IT'S VOLUNTEER.
OUR CODE OFFICERS, OUR SAPD OFFICERS, HEALTH, N-H-S-D-D-H-S, THEY DON'T GET PAID EXTRA.
THERE ISN'T A LITTLE EXTRA STIPEND 'CAUSE THEY WORK WITH A DART UNIT.
WE ARE NOT SELF-FUNDED, NOR ARE WE GRANT FUNDED.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE WENT THROUGH, UM, UM, WE TRIED TO GET FUNDING, UH, THIS YEAR FOR THE BUDGET.
UM, WE SOMEWHAT GOT IT AND WE WERE VERY HAPPILY FOR WHAT WE GOT.
UM, WE WERE ABLE TO GET, BRING ON MORE PERSONNEL.
SO WE'RE GOING TO BRING IN A NEW ATTORNEY, UM, THAT'S GOING TO ASSIST US, UH, WHICH IS HUGE.
BUT THE DART UNIT DOESN'T GET FUNDING.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT SETTING ASIDE MONEY FOR THE DART UNIT BECAUSE OF, UH, THE, UH, THE UPTICK IN THE DOG ATTACKS.
UH, THERE WAS SOME TALK AS TO WHAT, HOW THEY WANTED TO GO ABOUT FIXING THAT, HOW THEY WANTED TO GO ABOUT DRESSING IT.
AND IT TURNED INTO THE GOOD NEIGHBOR PROGRAM.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE THAT GOOD NEIGHBOR PROGRAM'S GONNA WORK OUT WELL.
THE DART UNIT WHO HAS BEEN HERE SINCE 2007, SAVITA STARTED IN 2007.
AGAIN, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN ALL VOLUNTEER.
WE ARE NOT LIMITED TO PROPERTIES WITH SOLE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.
WE WERE ABLE TO ADDRESS HABITUALLY CODE RELATED PROPERTIES, CODE PROBLEM RELATED PROPERTIES, AND THE ABILITY TO ENSURE COMPLETE ABATEMENT IF NEEDED BY MEANS OF DEMOLITION RATHER THAN JUST CLOSURE.
THE DART UNIT DOES HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO GO AFTER A PROPERTY, FILE A LAWSUIT, AND CLOSE 'EM DOWN FOR A SET NUMBER OF TIME.
WE ALSO HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO BRING THE PROPERTY IN FRONT OF THIS BOARD AND MAKE A DETERMINATION BASED ON THE EVIDENCE THAT WE FOUND.
HERE'S WHAT THE CRITERIA THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.
EACH DEPARTMENT RESEARCHES THE PROPERTY FOR DOCUMENTED HABITUAL TWO YEAR HISTORY, REVIEW OF CODE HISTORY VIOLATIONS AT THE PROPERTY OF THE PAST.
WE ALSO SEND OUR CODE OFFICER, UM, OUT TO THE PROPERTY TO DO A LOOK.
WE REVIEW THE CALLS FOR SERVICE IN REGARDS TO SAPD, THE OFFENSE REPORTS AND THE TYPES OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.
THE DART UNIT MEETS EVERY TWO WEEKS.
WE, UH, GIVE EACH OTHER UPDATES ON PROPERTIES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN INSPECTED.
WE DO IT BY EACH SAFE SECTION.
SO WE'LL GO NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, WEST, CENTRAL AND PERU, ALMOST FORGOT ABOUT PERU.
AND THEN WE WILL START ASKING THEM IF THEY HAVE ANY PROPERTIES.
THOSE PROPERTIES THAT WE USUALLY REVIEW COME FROM FIRST RESPONDERS.
I'M NOT GOING AT, WE ARE NOT RESEARCHING A PROPERTY BECAUSE, UM, CITY COUNCIL ASKED US TO, WE ARE GOING AFTER A PROPERTY BECAUSE THE CALLS FOR SERVICE HAVE GOTTEN TO THE POINT WHERE, UM, SAPD IS BRINGING THE PROPERTY TO US.
CODE IS BRINGING THE PROPERTY TO US BASED ON A, A INSPECTION.
ANIMAL CARE HAS BROUGHT US A PROPERTY.
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THE ON OF VISITS, HAVE, HAVE, HAVE, HAVE, UH, BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT CERTAIN PROPERTIES.AND WE WILL ADDRESS THOSE PROPERTIES IN KIND IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
THE RECENT DART INSPECTION THAT HAD SWAT, WE WENT IN THAT WAY BECAUSE OF THE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.
UH, ONE THAT WE HAD I, A FEW WEEKS AGO, CLOSE TO, UH, UH, I THINK IT WAS DISTRICT ONE.
IT WAS MORE OF A, OF, OF AN ISSUE WITH, UM, SOMEONE WHO WAS LIVING IN A HOARDING CONDITION AND HAD SOME CHALLENGES.
AND WHAT WE DECIDED TO DO WAS ADDRESS THAT PROPERTY THAT WAY INSTEAD OF, WE DIDN'T HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF SAPD OFFICERS, BUT WE HAD A LOT OF, UH, PERSONNELS PERSONS AND PERSONNEL THAT COULD ASSIST US IN REGARDS TO ADDRESSING THE MENTAL PROBLEM, ADDRESSING THE HOARDING CONDITIONS, SEE IF THE CITY CAN ASSIST IN TRYING TO GET THE PROPERTY CLEANED UP.
SO IT KIND OF DEPENDS ON THE PROPERTY AS TO HOW THE DART UNIT ADDRESSES THAT PROPERTY.
WHAT IS MAGIC ABOUT ONE YEAR AS OPPOSED TO, I MEAN, TWO YEARS AS OPPOSED TO ONE YEAR, TWO YEARS HAS GIVEN US HABITUAL CRIMINAL HISTORY.
ONE YEAR MIGHT BE BECAUSE THERE MIGHT BE A TENANT THAT LIVED THERE AND THEN MOVED OUT AND IT'S NO LONGER AN ISSUE.
SO WHAT WE TRY TO DO IS TRY TO SEE IF THAT THOSE ISSUES HAVE BEEN NOT ONLY CONSISTENT ONGOING, BUT CODE ISN'T ALSO, CODE ISN'T GETTING ANY COOPERATION.
SAPD ISN'T GETTING ANY COOPERATION.
SO THAT'S WHY WE USE THAT TWO YEAR HISTORY.
SO AS I SAID, WE ADDRESS EACH PROPERTY BASED ON WHAT'S GOING ON.
UH, SO THE TEAM DOES, DOES DETERMINE ANY SPECIAL NEEDS AT THAT PROPERTY.
WE DO HAVE ELDERLY OWNERS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE, UM, FOCUSED ON GETTING THEM THE HELP THEY NEED, RELOCATING THEM IF THEY NEED IT, SEEING IF THERE ARE SOME SERVICES THAT THE CITY CAN PROVIDE TO US.
HELP THE SYSTEM TURNING THEIR LIGHTS BACK ON, HELPING THEM GET, HELPING TO GET BACK PAY ON U ON U OR, UM, SOME, UH, SOME OVERDUE FEES ON, ON THE UTILITIES, SEEING IF THERE MIGHT BE SOME SMALL, UM, UH, CONSTRUCTION OR ELECTRICAL WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
IS THERE SOMETHING THAT N-N-H-S-D OR DHS CAN DO TO ASSIST THEM? THE SOCIAL SERVICES, THE HOARDING ISSUES, WE WANT TO HELP ADDRESS THOSE.
WE ARE NOT LOOKING TO TAKE SOMEONE'S PROPERTY OVER, BUT HOARDING SITUATION DOES CAUSE A PROBLEM FOR THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY.
ARE THERE CHILDREN AT THE LOCATION? HOW OLD ARE THESE KIDS? WHAT ARE THE CONDITIONS THAT THEY'RE LIVING IN? WHAT IS THE SITUATION THAT THEY'RE LIVING IN? DO WE NEED TO CALL CPS? DO WE NEED TO CALL APS IN REGARDS TO ADULT PROTECTIVE SERVICES? THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE MENTAL HEALTH TEAM WITH US.
DO WE NEED TO BRING ONE OF OUR PROSECUTORS THAT HANDLES FAMILY VIOLENCE AND ASSAULTS? BECAUSE THERE'S, UM, CALLS FOR SERVICE FOR A ASSAULT, FAMILY VIOLENCE CASES, AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE INFORMATION THAT THEY MIGHT NEED TO PUSH FORWARD IF THEY WANT TO FILE A CASE.
DO WE NEED TO RELOCATE? PEOPLE? ARE THESE PERSONS THAT DON'T REALLY HAVE A HOME? WE FOUND THEM OUT A VACANT STRUCTURE.
THEY'RE STARTING FIRES INSIDE TO KEEP WARM.
CAN WE PROVIDE THEM ALTERNATIVE PLACES OR ALTERNATIVE CHOICES TO STAY? DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE FORCED TO, BUT WE CAN PROVIDE THEM THOSE ALTERNATIVES BECAUSE WHAT WE DON'T WANT THEM DOING IS STAYING IN THAT THEIR, THEIR, THEIR CURRENT SITUATION.
WE HAVE HAD SOME ISSUES WHERE, UM, WE'VE GONE INTO A, A PROPERTY AND, AND THE DOGS HAVEN'T BEEN TAKEN CARE OF.
THE DOGS HAVE BEEN, UM, MALNOURISHED OR MISTREATED.
ANIMAL CARE DOES HAVE THE AUTHORITY AND THE RESPONSIBILITY TO OPEN A SEPARATE CASE.
IF SO, SO NOT ONLY ARE WE DEALING WITH THE NUISANCE OF THE STRUCTURE, BUT WE ALSO NOW HAVE OPEN ANIMAL CARE CASES.
ARE THEY WILLING TO SURRENDER THE DOG IN LIEU OF US NOT SIGNING, WRITING ANY CITATIONS? WE HAVE HAD THE HAZMAT CONCERNS.
WE HAD A PROPERTY BACK IN 2015, 16, I THINK.
UM, AT ONE POINT IN DON, ONE POINT IN TIME, DANNY LEGGE WAS PART OF THE DART UNIT WHERE THE PROPERTY WAS SO BAD THAT THEY HAD TO DO AMMONIA LEVEL READINGS BEFORE WE WENT IN.
WE ENDED UP DEMOLISHING THAT HOUSE.
BUT, UM, BECAUSE OF THE AMMONIA LEVELS, THEY ENDED UP ALSO TAKING THE FOUNDATION.
AND THIS HOUSE WAS IN THE GREAT NORTHWEST AREA.
IT'S, IT'S FUNNY, I I'M SITTING HERE PUTTING ALL THESE CONSIDERATIONS, BUT THESE ARE ALL CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE'VE DEALT WITH BEFORE FOR A BIG, HUGE DRUG HOUSE.
UH, SAVITA WAS, WAS, UH, WAS ACTIVELY RUNNING THE DART UNIT AT THE TIME WHERE SHE HAD TO BRING IN DEA AND THE US ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
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AND THEY EVEN HAD A, UM, THEY HAD A LITTLE PRESS CONFERENCE IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE.I HAD NEVER MET ADEA AGENT BEFORE IN MY LIFE UNTIL THAT DAY.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, THERE'S HIGH RISK PROPERTIES.
WE WILL USE STREET CRIMES AND SWAT OR RAVEN, DEPENDING ON THE SITUATION.
UH, RECENTLY THERE WAS A PROPERTY I TEN FOUR TEN INTERCHANGE, UH, WHERE WE USED THE RAVEN UNIT BECAUSE OF SUCH THE, THE, THE LOCATION WAS, UH, THEY, THEY HAD ABOUT MAYBE SEVEN TO EIGHT STORIES.
SAPD IS, IT'S NOT SAFE FOR SAPD AND THE SAFE OFFICERS TO INDIVIDUALLY GO TO EACH STORY.
SO WHAT THEY DID IS THEY USED THE RAVEN TO GO IN THERE.
UM, WE'VE USED STREET CRIMES AND SWAT TO SECURE PROPERTY WHERE WE KNEW THAT THERE WAS ACTIVE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY GOING ON WITH THE PROPERTY.
UM, SO THOSE THINGS ARE USED AND THOSE CONSIDERATIONS ARE MADE ON ALMOST EVERY DART INSPECTION.
ON THE DAY OF THE INSPECTION, WE GET AN ADMINISTRATIVE WARRANT.
THAT WARRANT IS SIGNED BY A MAGISTRATE.
THAT'S THE ONLY WAY THAT WE GO ONTO THE PROPERTY.
IF THERE'S ANY PROPERTY THAT'S DART RELATED, THEY MUST GET A WARRANT.
IF IT'S A FOLLOW UP, I WANT A WARRANT.
IF IT'S FOR US TO GET ONTO THE PROPERTY WARRANT, WE NEED TO TAKE PICTURES FOR BSB WARRANT.
THERE IS NO EXCEPTION IN REGARDS TO A DART PROPERTY.
WE DO A BRIEFING THAT STAGING.
WE DO A SAFETY BRIEFING, NOT ONLY BY MYSELF, BUT ALSO SAPD IN REGARDS TO HOW THEY WANT TO ADDRESS THE PROPERTY, HOW THEY WANNA APPROACH IT.
IT IS ALL IT TAKES US ONE TIME.
SAPD, LEGAL AND ANIMAL CARE ARE THE FIRST ONES TO THE PROPERTY.
LEGAL AND ANIMAL ANIMAL CARE GETS OUTTA THEIR CAR.
SAPD GOES TO THE ACTUAL HOUSE AND SECURES IT.
ONCE THAT PROPERTY IS SECURED, DEPENDING ON THE SITUATION, AGAIN, ELDERLY PERSONS LIVING IN A HOUSE JUST DETERIORATING AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.
WE'RE NOT PULLING THEM OUT AND HANDCUFFING THEM.
SAPD IS, AS IS TRYING TO ASSIST THEM IN, IN MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE COMFORTABLE AND SITTING DOWN.
I WILL GO IN AND SPEAK TO THEM.
WE'LL HAVE NHSD SPEAK TO THEM, AND THEN WE'LL PROCEED WITH THE, UH, WE'LL PROCEED WITH THE, WITH THE INSPECTION.
IF IT IS A, A PROPERTY WHERE WE GO IN ON A REGULAR BASIS, WE KNOW THERE MIGHT BE SOME CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.
UM, IN ADDITION TO PERSONS NOT BEING THERE.
SAPD WILL SECURE THE PROPERTY.
ANYBODY FOUND ON THAT PROPERTY IS DETAINED WHILE THEY DO A SECURITY BACKGROUND CHECK ON THEM.
ANYTHING IN PLAIN SIGHT, WE WILL DOCUMENT.
AND WHAT I MEAN BY PLAIN SIGHT IS IF THEY SEE ANY GUNS OR DRUGS OR WHAT HAVE YOU, WE'LL MAKE SURE PICTURES ARE TAKEN.
WHAT SAPD IS NOT ALLOWED TO DO AND DOES NOT DO IS START LOOKING THROUGH THINGS.
THAT ADMINISTRATIVE WARRANT IS ALLOWED FOR US TO SECURE IT AND DO AN ADMINISTRATIVE INSPECTION.
WE ARE NOT THERE IN THE CRIMINAL ASPECT.
IN, IN REGARDS TO SS APD DOING MORE AN INTRUSIVE SEARCH IF, BASED ON WHAT THEY SEE IN PLAIN SIGHT, WHEN THEY'RE SECURING, THEY BELIEVE THAT THEY NEED TO GET A CRIMINAL WARRANT.
THE DART UNIT WON'T EVEN START.
SWAT SECURED THE LOCATION BASED ON WHAT THEY, BASED ON WHAT CENTRAL SAW WHEN THEY WERE SECURING AND JUST LOOKING AROUND.
BEFORE CODE WENT ON, THEY DETERMINED THAT THEY NEEDED A CRIMINAL WARRANT.
SO WE WAITED ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF.
WHERE WAS CRYSTAL? DIDN'T WE WAIT ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF? WE WAITED ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF BEFORE THAT CRIMINAL WARRANT WAS EXECUTED.
ONCE THEY DID THEIR SEARCH, THEY GAVE US THE, OKAY, CODE DOESN'T CODE AND THE REST OF THE TEAM DOES, DOES THEIR INSPECTION.
WE'RE NOT GOING ONTO A PROPERTY IF THEY BELIEVE THAT THEY NEED TO GET A A, A MORE INTRUSIVE, UH, WARRANT.
THAT'S ALSO WHY LEGAL IS THERE TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION AS TO WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN NEXT.
ONCE THE SERGEANT, 'CAUSE WE ALWAYS HAVE A SERGEANT FROM SAFE.
ONCE THE SERGEANT SAYS, OR, OR THE OFFICER IN CHARGE GIVES US THE ALL CLEAR, I WILL CALL CODE OR TEXT THEM AND THE REST OF THE TEAM, THEY'RE STILL AT THE STAGING LOCATION.
THEY START COMING AND I CAN TELL YOU THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
THEY ARE LIKE, OH MY GOSH, WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE? AND WE WANT TO BE, WE WANNA MAKE A SCENE.
WE WANT TO, THIS IS, WE'RE DEALING WITH ONE OF THE WORST OF THE WORST PROPERTIES.
SO FIRST AND FOREMOST, YOU'RE GONNA SEE A WHOLE BUNCH OF POLICE COME ONTO A PROPERTY, SIX OR SEVEN OF THEM.
THEY MIGHT LET SOME OF, SOME OF THE SAPD OFFICERS MIGHT LEAVE ONCE THE PROPERTY SECURED.
AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA SEE A WHOLE NOTHER GROUP OF CODE HEALTH, ANIMAL CARE, N-H-S-D-D-H-S, AND YOU'RE GONNA SEE ALL THESE PEOPLE JUST CONVERGE ON THIS PROPERTY.
AND WE ARE GOING TO MAKE A DETERMINATION THAT DAY AS TO HOW TO MOVE FORWARD.
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DURING THE INSPECTION CODE IS, IS DOING THEIR INSPECTION.THEY'RE LOOKING INSIDE, OUTSIDE, THEY'RE TAKING PICTURES.
THERE'S USUALLY MAYBE TWO OF THEM.
MOST TIMES GINNY AND OR UH, ROMERO GATA ARE THERE TO MAKE DETERMINATIONS TO MAKE DECISIONS.
THEY'RE NOT THE ONES DOING THE, THE INSPECTION, BUT THEY ARE THERE FOR US TO HAVE A CONVERSATION.
FOR US TO SIT THERE AND BRAINSTORM AS TO HOW WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THIS PROPERTY HEALTH IS THERE.
IF IT IS NOT A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, THEN WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS THEY'RE MOST LIKELY ASSISTING, UH, CODE AND MAKING SURE, UH, THE SAN AREA CONDITIONS ARE GOOD.
WATER LEAKS, SEWAGE LEAKS, WATER TEMPERATURES.
WE ARE GOING TO ADDRESS EVERYTHING AT THAT HOUSE THAT COULD POSSIBLY MAKE IT INTO A NUISANCE.
ANIMAL CARE IS EITHER, UH, CONTAINING DOGS BECAUSE THEY MIGHT BE AGGRESSIVE OR JUST REMOVING THEM.
'CAUSE IT, IT MIGHT, IT MIGHT BE A TRAUMATIC EXPERIENCE FOR THEM.
WITH ALL THESE PEOPLE IN, THEY'RE GONNA CHECK TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE MICROCHIPPED CHECK TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE OKAY.
THEY HAD THEIR, THEY HAD THEIR RECENT SHOTS, THEIR VACCINATIONS.
IF NOT, YOU'RE GOING TO GET A NOTICE OF VIOLATION.
IF IT'S A REAL BAD PLACE AND WE HAVE A HISTORY OF IT, CITATIONS WILL BE ISSUED ON THE SPOT.
NHSD AND DHS ARE INTERVIEWING ELIGIBLE PERSONS OR JUST INTERVIEWING THEM TO DETERMINE IF THEY ARE ELIGIBLE FOR SOME OF THE SERVICES THAT THE CITY HAS OR SOME OF THE PROGRAMS THAT THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO ASSIST.
DHS ASSISTS PERSONS THAT ARE HOMELESS AREN'T WITH, DON'T HAVE THEIR OWN HOUSE, DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO STAY.
NHSD IS GOING TO BE ADDRESSING THE PRE PERSONS THAT ARE EITHER THE TENANTS OR THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY.
WE DISCUSS THERE AT THE PROPERTY HOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD.
THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE AN AFTER ACTION MEETING SET UP THERE.
THERE'S NEVER NOT GOING TO BE ONE UNLESS AN OWNER CAN'T BE FOUND OR THE PERSON'S IN THE, IN THE HOUSE SHOULDN'T BE THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
THE DART PROPERTY THAT WE HIT TUESDAY, THERE IS A, A SCHEDULED MEETING, AN AFTER ACTION MEETING SCHEDULED NEXT TUESDAY.
WE WILL SCHEDULE THAT MEETING ON THE SPOT.
I WILL CONTACT OUR PARALEGALS.
SHE WILL SEND OUT OUTLOOK REMINDERS, AND THEN WE WILL TRY TO CONTACT THE BEST WE CAN, UM, THE OWNER AND WE WILL POST NOTICE ON THE PROPERTY.
SO AFTER ACTION MEETING WE HAVE, WE'RE GONNA TELL 'EM WHAT OUR GAME PLAN IS.
IF WE BELIEVE THAT THEY'LL WORK WITH US, WE'LL TRY TO DO A COMPLIANCE AGREEMENT.
THEY'LL SIGN A NO TRESPASS AFFIDAVIT.
UM, THEY'LL REMOVE PERSONS FROM THE HOUSE AND THEY'LL START MAKING REPAIRS.
OR THEY'LL BOARD IT UP AND IT'LL BE BOARDED UP FOR SIX MONTHS UNTIL THE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY LEAVES.
AND THEN THEY CAN START MAKING REPAIRS.
OR WE TELL 'EM, LOOK, WE'RE TAKING YOUR PROPERTY TO BSB, WE'RE LETTING YOU KNOW NOW WE'RE GIVING YOU YOUR PRE BSB PACKET TODAY.
THESE ARE THE PERSONS YOU NEED TO CONTACT.
THIS IS THE STUFF YOU NEED TO BRING.
AND THIS IS WHO YOU CAN CONTACT IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
WE WILL LET THEM KNOW WHAT OUR PLAN IS AVAILABLE.
REMEDIES ON DATE OF THE INSPECTION, CODE ENFORCEMENT, DP ENFORCEMENT HEALTH, ANY OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE THERE HAVE HAVE THE AUTHORITY AND THE ABILITY TO START ISSUING CITATIONS, OF COURSE, WITHIN THEIR STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE.
ISSUE THE NOTICE OF VIOLATION ISSUE, THE CITATION ISSUE, THE, UH, NOTICE TO VACATE.
I WANNA MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND.
THERE ARE TIMES IF THERE'S NO UTILITIES OR THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S, UH, UH, CAUSING THIS PROPERTY TO BE A DANGEROUS STRUCTURE THAT SHOULDN'T BE LIVING IN UNTIL THEY REPAIR IT, WE WILL DO A NOTICE TO VACATE.
BUT WE WILL NOT ACT ON THAT NOTICE TO VACATE, EVEN IF APPROVED BY A MEAN, WE'RE NOT ACTING, WHICH MEANS WE ARE NOT REMOVING ANYBODY.
WE'RE NOT DOING IT UNTIL THIS BOARD ORDERS IT.
IF WE, IF IT COMES TO THIS BOARD.
AND THEN THE EXPIRATION OF, OF THE APPEAL PROCESS AND THE EXPIRATION OF THE TIME THAT YOU'VE ALLOWED, THEN DETERMINING, OR BASED ON THE SITUATION, WE'LL DETERMINE IF WE NEED TO DO THE NOTES TO VACATE AND IF WE NEED TO ENFORCE IT OR THEY'RE ALREADY MOVING OUT.
OKAY, I DO WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND THIS.
DO WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO YES, BUT WE'RE NOT DOING IT.
WE'RE JUST NOT GOING TO DO IT.
THE DART UNIT HAS ALSO, UM, DONE ITS LAST INSPECTION FOR THE YEAR.
I'M NOT LOOKING, WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO, UH, NEGATIVELY AFFECT SOMEBODY DURING CHRISTMAS DURING THE HOLIDAYS.
UH, WE DO HAVE SOME DANGEROUS STRUCTURES OUT THERE.
WE DO HAVE SOME NUISANCE PROPERTIES OUT THERE.
BUT YOU, YOU KIND OF WEIGH THE, THE PROS AND THE CONS.
AND I DON'T THINK DISPLACING ANYBODY DURING CHRISTMAS HOLIDAYS OR DURING THE HOLIDAYS IS A, IS A GOOD IDEA.
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WE DO LEAVE A FEW DATES OPEN FOR EMERGENCIES IF WE HAVE ONE, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, WE WILL NOT START AGAIN UNTIL MAYBE THE SECOND WEEK OF JANUARY.BUT I CAN TELL YOU, WE DO HAVE PROPERTIES ALREADY SET UP THE UNIT.
IF SAPD COMES TO US WITH A PROPERTY, HEY, THIS IS CAUSING A LOT OF PROBLEMS. IT'S, IT'S CRAZY.
WE'VE HAD SIX SHOOTINGS TODAY AND I CAN, WE CAN JUSTIFY IT WITH THE CODE HISTORY AND WE'LL DEFINITELY LOOK AT IT.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, IF THE PROPERTY'S BECOME AN ISSUE, ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S PROBABLY NOT A NUISANCE PROPERTY YET.
OR ONE FOR THE DART UNIT THAT LOOKS A LITTLE SMALL.
WHAT IT IS, IS AFTER ACTION MEETINGS, WE'RE LETTING THEM KNOW, AND I'VE SAID THIS TO YOU BEFORE, WE'RE LETTING 'EM KNOW WHAT THE VIOLATIONS ARE.
WE'RE ADVISING THEM OF ALL THEIR LEGAL LIABILITY.
WE'RE GONNA TELL THEM WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IF WE HAVE TO FILE LAWSUITS.
UM, WHEN SAVITA DOES THESE MEETINGS, SHE LETS 'EM KNOW ON HOW MUCH HE CHARGES AN HOUR, WHICH I ALWAYS THOUGHT WAS PRETTY DARN COOL.
IDEALLY, WE WANT VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM IN DRAFTING A NUISANCE COMPLIANCE AGREEMENT, WHICH WILL GIVE YOU A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DAYS TO MAKE THE REPAIRS.
I'M ASKING YOU TO DO EVERYTHING WITH PERMITS.
I'M ASKING TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, YOU ARE, UM, WORKING CLOSELY WITH SAPD TO ALLOW THEM ON IF THERE'S ANY CONCERNS.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE SIGNING A NEW TRESPASS AFFIDAVIT.
WE ARE SPECIFICALLY STATING WHO CANNOT COME ON.
WE ARE SPECIFICALLY STATING WHO CAN, WHO CAN COME ONTO THE PROPERTY.
AND YOU ARE WORKING WITH CODE AND YOU ARE AVAILABLE FOR CODE FOR INSPECTIONS.
I'M GIVING YOU A HEADS UP CODE.
HAS THE AUTHORITY TO COME ONTO YOUR PROPERTY WITHIN 24 HOURS AND JUST COME LOOK.
IF WE CAN GET THAT AGREEMENT SET UP AND GET IT SIGNED AND GET IT GOING, GREAT.
THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES WHERE WE'VE DONE THAT, WHERE THEY FELL THROUGH AND WE'VE ENDED UP BRINGING THE PROPERTY HERE.
THERE'S ALSO BEEN TIMES WHERE WE'VE DONE THAT.
IT'S WORKED OUT GREAT PROPERTY, NEVER HAD TO SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY OF BSB.
BUT IF YOU REFUSE TO, UH, COMPLY, UH, WELL LOOK, WE'LL TAKE YOUR PROPERTY TO BSB FOR REPAIR, TO VACATE THE DEMO.
WE'LL FILE A LAWSUIT AND ACCOMPANY ALL THE VIOLATIONS IF THE PROPERTY PRESENTS A SUBSTANTIAL THREAT TO THE HEALTH, LIFE AND SAFETY AND WELFARE, OR IF IT'S ENCOMPASSING HABITUAL CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, THAT'S A 54 OR A 1 25.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S WHERE I WOULD SIT THERE AND TALK TO ORLANDO AND SAM.
AND HERE ARE THOSE, HERE ARE THOSE LEGAL REMEDIES HERE.
CHAPTER 1 25 IS DEALING WITH, UH, THE HABITUAL CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.
PUBLIC NUISANCE STATUTE IS CHAPTER 54.
AND WHAT WE GO UNDER IS TWO 14.
UM, TABC HAS THEIRS CHAPTER 81 AND 1 0 2.
AND THEN OF COURSE, THE CITY CODES.
AND NOT EVERY DART PROPERTY IS A DP.
WE DO HAVE DART PROPERTIES THAT HAVE SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE VIOLATIONS, AND WE HAVE NO PROBLEM BRINGING THEM HERE.
BUT IT WAS DETERMINED BASED ON OUR INSPECTION ON THAT DAY.
YES, THIS PROPERTY DOES NEED TO BE ADDRESSED, BUT WE, IT SHOULD NOT BE ADDRESSED AS A DANGEROUS STRUCTURE 'CAUSE IT'S NOT, OR THIS PROPERTY IS NOT A DANGEROUS STRUCTURE, BUT THE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY IS SO BAD THAT WE'RE BRINGING IT AS A 6 1 60 AS A DP BASED ON THE CRIMINAL HISTORY.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S RARE THAT WE DO THAT.
I COULD TELL YOU THAT JENNY AND AMIN PUT, UH, OUR CODE OFFICERS THROUGH A RIGOROUS REVIEW IF THEY'RE GONNA TAKE IT AS A ONE, AS A 6 1 60 AND YOU, WE HAVE TO HAVE, UM, SUFFICIENT, UM, JUSTIFICATION BASED ON AMIN AND JENNY AS TO WHAT IF, IF THAT PROPERTY'S GONNA COME HERE AS A 6 1 60.
UH, LITIGATION OUTCOMES, UM, MAKE THEM POST PERFORMANCE BONDS, MAKE THEM PAY AVI'S ATTORNEY'S FEES, CLOSING AND BOARD THAT PROPERTY UP FOR A YEAR.
THERE'S A, THERE'S A PLETHORA OF OF LITIGATION OUTCOMES WE CAN SEEK TBCS.
HERE'S THEIR, THEIR, THEIR, THEIR OUTCOMES.
WE CAN DECLARE IT A COMMON NUISANCE.
WE CAN ASK 'EM TO SUSPEND OR DENY OR REVOKE THEIR PERMIT IN REGARDS TO THEIR LIQUOR LICENSE.
NOW, I CAN TELL YOU, DART, THERE ARE SOME, THERE ARE SOME, SOME ISSUES IN REGARDS TO DART, UH, THE DEMAND OF ACTION VERSUS OPPOSITION.
THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT US TO ADDRESS THIS.
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JUST GONNA GO AFTER A DEMOLITION.AGAIN, THE DART UNIT IS TO ELIMINATE THE NUISANCE, WHATEVER THAT NUISANCE MAY BE.
THERE ARE OTHERS THAT JUST LEVEL WE'RE DOING, HEY.
BUT I CAN TELL YOU NOT EVERY, AGAIN, THAT THAT GOES TO IT.
ALSO, NOT EVERY PROPERTY IS A, IS A DEMO.
THE DART UNIT DOES NOT WANT TO ADDRESS EVERY PROBLEM WITH A HAMMER.
AND I THINK WE DO A PRETTY DAMN GOOD JOB AT IT.
AND DEMOLITION IS NOT A BAD WORD.
WE'RE REMOVING A DANGEROUS STRUCTURE.
WE'RE REMOVING SOMETHING THAT IS A NUISANCE.
AND IT'S, IT'S PRETTY HARD FOR ANY TYPE OF GOVERNMENT ENTITY TO TAKE SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY.
UM, WE ALSO DEAL WITH HOUSES THAT ARE IN HISTORIC DISTRICT OR HAVE SOME TYPE OF HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE.
WE WANT TO ADDRESS THIS PROPERTY.
BUT LOOK, WE HAVE THE OLDEST HOUSING STOCK IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.
WE HAVE HISTORIC HOUSES THAT ARE IMPORTANT THAT WE DO NEED TO KEEP, THAT WE, WE'D LOVE TO GET REVITALIZED OR SOMEBODY GO IN AND TAKE THE TIME AND THE EFFORT AND ENERGY TO REPAIR IT CORRECTLY.
AND IF WE CAN FIND THAT GREAT DART HAS WORKED WITH OHP.
UH, THERE WAS A PROPERTY THAT CAME IN FRONT OF THIS BOARD, UM, ASHBY PLACE.
THE PROPERTY HAD BEEN TAKEN OVER BY, UM, UH, VAGRANTS AND THE HOMELESS TO THE POINT WHERE, UM, THERE WAS BROKEN SEWAGE AND THE HOUSE WAS IT, IT, IT WAS BAD.
COULD WE HAVE BROUGHT THE PROPERTY TO THIS BOARD AS A DP? WE COULD HAVE, BUT WHAT THAT WOULD'VE DONE IS JUST, IT, IT WOULD'VE ELIMINATED SOMETHING THAT HOLDS VALUE AND IMPORTANCE TO THIS CITY WHEN WE DIDN'T NEED TO DO THAT.
SO IN WORKING WITH, UM, OHP, WHAT WE ENDED UP DOING IS BRINGING THE PROPERTY TO YOU AS SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE VIOLATIONS.
AND IT HAD A LONG HISTORY, A LONG LIST OF VIOLATIONS.
WE WAITED TILL THOSE, THOSE ORDERS EXPIRED.
WE FINALLY WERE ABLE TO GET AHOLD OF THE OWNER AND WE WORKED WITH THEM TO PUT THAT PROPERTY INTO THE VACANT BUILDING PROGRAM.
AND YOU TELL ME, IS IT WORKING? IT LOOKS THE SAME AS IT DID.
IT MIGHT LOOK THE SAME, BUT I COULD TELL YOU THE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY IS NO LONGER THERE.
AND THE VACANT BUILDING PROGRAM REQUIRES THAT THEY BOARD IT UP A CERTAIN WAY, KEEP IT NEAT AND CLEAN FOR A CERTAIN WAY, AND IT'S GONNA STAY LIKE THAT FOR A GOOD, I DON'T KNOW, SIX MONTHS, POSSIBLY A YEAR.
AND THEN WHEN THE OWNER HAS THE ABILITY TO MAYBE FIX IT UP, REPAIR IT, SELL IT.
BUT WHAT WE DID DO IS ELIMINATE THE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.
WE DID ELIMINATE THE NUISANCE, AND WE WORKED WITH OHP TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT AT A HISTORIC PROPERTY INFLUENCE.
I COULD TELL YOU THERE ARE SOMETIMES THAT CITY COUNCIL WANTS TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING OR THEY, YOU KNOW, IN GOOD FAITH WANT TO SUGGEST THAT THE DART UNIT HIT A PROPERTY.
WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS LOOK LIKE WE'RE PLAYING FAVORITISM DURING ANY PARTISAN.
SO WHAT WE WILL DO IS WE LIKE OUR PROPERTIES TO COME FROM FIRST RESPONDERS, THE ONES THAT ARE BOOTS ON THE GROUND, KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THAT PROPERTY.
CODE ENFORCEMENT, HEALTH, ANIMAL CARE, MAINLY SAPD.
AND THAT'S HOW WE GET OUR PROPERTIES.
UM, NEGOTIATIONS SHOULD NOT BE INFLUENCED BY OUTSIDE.
WE DON'T LIMIT ON HOW WE SHOULD NEED TO ADDRESS THE PROPERTY.
HOW WE ADDRESS THE PROPERTY IS DETERMINED BY THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE DART UNIT AND WHAT WE BELIEVE WOULD BE THE BEST THING.
AND ALSO IN REGARDS TO THE DART UNIT, THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
IS IT RIGHT FOR US TO WORK WITH ANIMAL CARE AND CPS TO HAVE SOMETHING, HAVE A CHILD OR AN ADULT REMOVED FROM A, UH, A DANGEROUS SITUATION.
THOSE ARE HARD DECISIONS TO MAKE, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE, WE'RE GOING IN THERE, OUR FIRST LOOK, OH MY GOD, THIS IS REALLY BAD.
LOOK AT HOW'S THIS PERSON'S LIVING.
WE SHOULD DEFINITELY DO SOMETHING.
BUT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN THERE FOR 10 MINUTES.
WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S GOING ON.
SO THOSE, THOSE ISSUES WE DEFINITELY WANT TO WORK WITH, WITH, UM, UH, ANIMAL CARE, EXCUSE ME, ADULT PROTECTIVE SERVICES AND CPS.
BUT THAT'S MORE OF A STATE AGENCY.
AND WE'D LIKE FOR THEM TO KIND OF TAKE OVER.
WE'LL CALL AND LET THEM KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING, BUT WE'RE NOT FORCING WHAT WE BELIEVE SHOULD HAPPEN BASED ON WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN.
WE TRY TO LEAVE THAT JOB TO THEM.
HOW ABOUT REMOVING ANIMALS? I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING.
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THAT'S SO SAD, ISN'T IT? THAT DOG'S NAME IS BLUE.HE WAS FOUND AT A DART INSPECTION, I WANNA SAY IN 2015.
THEY WERE USING HIM TO TRAIN DOGS TO FIGHT.
THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I SAW HIM.
I TOOK THAT PICTURE AND PUT EYES ON HIM.
AND BY THE WAY, I DID NOT POSE HIM THAT WAY.
I ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND THIS IN REGARDS TO DART.
THERE ARE THREE PERSONS IN THIS, IN HERE RIGHT NOW THAT ARE ALUMNI OF DART.
WHEN I FIRST STARTED, UH, WORKING ON THE DART UNIT, I WAS, I, I HAD NO IDEA WHAT I WAS DOING.
SAVITA WOULD SEND ME OUT TO A PROPERTY OR CODE OFFICER WOULD COME PICK ME UP.
ALICE GUDO USED TO BE PART OF DART.
SHE'S, NOW TELL ME IF I'M WRONG.
JENNY USED TO BE PART OF DART.
SHE'S THE MANAGER WITH THE CITY.
DANNY'S ACTING LIKE HE DOESN'T KNOW.
AND MOST RECENTLY, ROMERO GTA, WHO WAS HUGE PART OF DART, HE AND I DID IT, UH, TOGETHER FOR I THINK THE LONGEST.
HE'S NOW A SUPERVISOR WITH THE CITY AND HE MANAGES THE, OR SUPERVISES THE CODE.
OUR CURRENT CODE OFFICERS, WHICH IS CRYSTAL, IS SHE HERE? SHE OUT THERE WITH CRYSTAL TOWN IS OUR, IS OUR CODE OFFICER.
I DO, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS RECALL THIS, BUT PRIOR TO, UH, HER BEING OUR CODE OFFICER, SHE WAS WITH DISTRICT THREE AND SHE WAS THE DP OFFICER FOR DISTRICT THREE.
I'VE NOTICED, I'M GUESSING THAT CODE PUTS PEOPLE THAT THEY TRUST IN THAT POSITION.
THERE'S A REASON THAT THERE'S WHAT, THREE FORMER MANAGERS, EXCUSE ME, THREE FORMER DART, UH, MEMBERS THAT ARE NOW MANAGERS OF CODE AND ONE SUPERVISOR IN ADDITION.
UM, I HAVE MY OFFICERS FROM SOUTH, UH, OFFICER, THIS IS BRANDON.
THIS IS, SO, AS I SAID, WE USE SAFE OFFICERS NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, WEST.
UH, BRANDON HAS BEEN WITH THE DART UNIT, I'D SAY THE LONGEST.
UM, HE'S WITH SOUTH, UM, HE'S WITH, HE'S THE SAFE OFFICER.
HE'S OUR LEAD OFFICER FOR SOUTH SAFE.
COULD HE STAND UP? HE CAN STAND UP.
AND THEN HIS PARTNER'S ALSO WITH HIM.
WE HAVE, UM, WE HAVE JONATHAN LOPEZ, EXCUSE ME, JONATHAN LOZANO.
JONATHAN USED TO BE WITH NHSD.
AND SO HE WAS OUR EARLY ON IN HSSD PERSON.
UM, HE HAS THEN SINCE MOVED TO DHS AND HE HAS BEEN A GODSEND.
SHE IS WITH OUR HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
HER AND KATHLEEN P ARE THE I THEY'RE AT EVERY DART INSPECTION.
AND IT IS, IT IS AWESOME TO HAVE THEM THERE.
WE WANT EVERY MEMBER AT THE DART AT EVERY DART INSPECTION.
UM, THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES WHERE, HEY, WELL, I DON'T THINK WE NEED HEALTH.
AND THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW, OH CRAP, WE NEED HEALTH.
OH, HEY, I DON'T THINK WE NEED ANIMAL CARE.
NEXT THING YOU KNOW, YOU HEAR DOGS BARKING.
SO WE WANT TO HAVE EVERY MEMBER AT THE DART INSPECTION.
IF WE NEED TO, WE'LL RELEASE YOU IMMEDIATELY, BUT WE WANT TO HAVE EVERYBODY THERE FIRST.
UM, SUSIE, UH, WHAT IS SUSIE'S LAST NAME? UH, SUSANNA REYES.
UH, SUSIE REYES IS OUR, IS THE PERSON THAT HANDLES OUR OUTREACH FOR NHSD.
NHSD IS ACTUALLY GOING TO GIVE A PRESENTATION HERE WITH YOU TODAY.
UM, I COULD TELL YOU FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, AS I TOLD YOU BEFORE, LUCINDA, UH, IS HELPING ME WITH THE DART UNIT.
UM, I, I THINK SHE'S GOING TO BE JOINING THE TEAM, WHICH WOULD, WHICH IS GONNA BE AWESOME.
AND IF THAT HAPPENS, SHE'LL, YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE HER HERE MORE.
'CAUSE I'LL START MAKING HER COME HERE AND THEN WE CAN KIND OF SWITCH OFF.
BUT THAT IS, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT'S GOING ON WITH DART.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION, BUT I DO WANNA TELL YOU THIS AND THE BOARD AND EVERYBODY ELSE.
I WAS AVAILABLE A COUPLE, ABOUT A WEEK OR SO AGO TO VISIT THE TINY HOUSES OUT THERE ON DIETRICH ROAD AND SOUTHWEST, SOUTHEAST LOOP FOUR 10.
AND, UH, IT'S A PROJECT WHERE TINY HOMES, I GUESS 400 TO 600 SQUARE FEET ARE BEING BUILT FOR THE HOMELESS.
AND WHAT I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY LIKED ABOUT
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IT WAS ALL THE SERVICES ARE, UH, HOLISTIC.EVERYTHING THAT THEY, THE, THE HOMELESS PERSON NEEDS IS RIGHT THERE ON THAT PROPERTY.
WHETHER IT'S MENTAL, UH, FOOD, UH, ANY KIND OF ISSUES, IT'S RIGHT THERE.
AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS A, AND WE, WE, SAN ANTONIO ARE THE ONLY COMMUNITY IN THE UNITED STATES THAT HAS THAT APPROACH TO, UM, HELP TRYING TO HELP THE HOMELESS.
AND THESE ARE SENIOR CITIZENS ONLY, UH, NO MARRIED COUPLES, NO CHILDREN, BUT THEY HAVE A BUS STOP RIGHT THERE.
THEY GET ALL THEIR FOOD THERE, THEIR THREE MEALS A DAY.
AND, UH, AND SO, I MEAN, I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY, REALLY GOOD.
AND THEY DON'T HAVE STOVES IN THEIR LITTLE TINY HOUSES BECAUSE OF SAFETY REASONS.
AND PLUS THEY CAN EAT ON THE PROPERTY.
SO I THOUGHT IT WAS A REALLY, REALLY GREAT CONCEPT.
AND CATHOLIC WORKERS ARE INVOLVED IN IT.
AND SO IT WAS A VERY UNIQUE EXPERIENCE AND IT WAS A, A VERY NICE COMPLEX, VERY NICE.
SO I JUST WANTED EVERYBODY TO BE, YOU SHOULD TAKE A TOUR OF IT IF YOU ALL CAN.
SO WE ARE, WE ARE, UM, I THINK THE CITY IS THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX IN REGARDS TO, TO HOUSING AND TRYING TO ADDRESS, UM, THE HOUSE LIST.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO DART? I CAN TELL YOU WHAT HAPPENS AT DART STAYS.
AT DART, WE DON'T TELL ANYBODY WHAT WE'RE DOING.
I GIVE THAT TO EVERYBODY THAT JOINS.
UM, I AM GRATEFUL TO THE PERSONNEL AND, AND THE, AND THE TEAM MEMBERS I HAVE, UM, I DID, UM, INVITE THEM HERE JUST IN CASE YOU GUYS HAD ANY QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO SOMETHING THAT THEY DO.
UM, I DON'T NECESSARILY MEAN TO PUT THEM ON THE SPOT, BUT, UM, UH, I, I DID WANT TO, I DID WANNA LET YOU KNOW THAT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM, THEY ARE HERE.
UH, BUT ONCE NHSD BEGINS THEIR SPEECH, WHAT I AM GONNA DO IS DEFINITELY LET THEM GO AND DO THEIR, UM, I'M SURE THEY HAVE OTHER, OTHER, OTHER, OTHER STUFF TO DO, BUT I JUST WANTED TO, UM, AT LEAST ACKNOWLEDGE THEM.
I, THE DART UNIT CAN'T FUNCTION WITHOUT 'EM.
THANK YOU ALL FOR WHAT, WHAT YOU DO HERE IN SAN ANTONIO, BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S MAKING A DIFFERENCE.
NOW WE HAVE, WELL, I THOUGHT WE HAD STAFF UPDATES, BUT WE DON'T.
WE HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, AND HOUSING SERVICES.
UH, MY NAME IS UA TOI AL, UH, YOU CAN CALL ME TOIN.
I AM THE SENIOR MANAGEMENT ANALYST FOR NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
I ALSO OVERSEE THE RELOCATION ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, AND I'M HERE TO PRESENT THE PROGRAM AND ALSO TALK ABOUT THE DEPARTMENT, UH, INVOLVEMENT WITH DART.
UM, SO THE RESIDENT RELOCATION ASSISTANCE PROGRAM IS A PROGRAM SUPPORTED BY TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING SERVICES, UM, TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY OF AFFAIRS.
UM, IT'S DESIGNED TO PROVIDE RELOCATION ASSISTANCE TO LOW INCOME HOUSEHOLD, UM, IMPACTED BY FINANCIAL HARDSHIP AND HOUSING INSTABILITY.
OTHER REQUIREMENTS, UM, INCLUDE, UH, HAVING INCOME AT OR BELOW 80% AMII COULD TELL YOU THAT MOST OF THE FAMILIES THAT WE DO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE TO, THEY'RE UNDER 30% EMI.
UH, ALSO, THEY HAVE TO BE A RESIDENT OF, UH, CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, UH, LIVING WITHIN THE DISTRICT, ONE TO 10.
SOME OF THE SERVICES WE PROVIDE, OR ASSISTANCE WE PROVIDE ARE MOVING ASSISTANCE, UH, TEMPORARY LODGING, APPLICATION FEES, ADMINISTRATIVE FEES, AS WELL AS PET DEPOSIT, UM, AND LANDLORD INCENTIVE PAYMENT.
SO THIS SLIDE TALKS ABOUT THE INVOLVEMENT, THE DEPARTMENT INVOLVEMENT WITH DART.
UM, WE HAVE A, A STAFF DESIGNATED TO ACT AS LIAISON BETWEEN VARIOUS HOUSING STABILITY, UH, PROGRAMS AND ORGANIZATIONS.
AND WE CONNECT THE INDIVIDUALS RESIDING ON IDENTIFIED DART DART PROPERTIES.
UH, IN ADDITION TO THIS ROLE, UM, SOME OF THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES ARE ATTENDING SITE VISIT, UM, ON, WITH EACH SITE VISIT THAT THEY, UH, ATTEND, WE OFFER SERVICES TO THE INDIVIDUALS IDENTIFIED ON THESE PROPERTIES.
THEY ALSO ATTEND MEETINGS, UH, PROVIDE UPDATES ON INDIVIDUALS WHO UTILIZED OR DID NOT UTILIZE THE SERVICES THAT WERE OFFERED.
WE ALSO DEVELOP AND MAINTAIN THE REFERRAL NETWORK AS WELL AS COORDINATE, UH, RELOCATION SERVICES
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FOR THIS DISPLACED, UM, RESIDENTS.SOME OF OTHER RESOURCES OR PARTNER AGENCIES ARE, UM, EVEN FOR HOPE, IF WE DO, UM, IDENTIFY SOMEONE WHO IS HOMELESS, UH, ON THE PROPERTY, WE REFER THEM TO EVEN FOR HOPE.
WE ALSO REFER THEM TO, UH, DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN SERVICES IF THEY NEED HELP WITH COMPLETING AN APPLICATION FOR SNAP, TAN, FSSI OR ANY OTHER SOCIAL SERVICES.
WE ALSO REFER THEM TO FINANCIAL AND HOUSING RECOVERY CENTER TO HELP THEM, UM, UM, RECOVER ANY IMPORTANT DOCUMENTS THAT THEY NEED TO.
WE ALSO HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH TEXAS RIO GRANT LEGAL AID, UH, TEXAS RIO GRANT LEGAL AID PROVIDE, UM, SERVICES, LEGAL ADVICE RE UM, RELATED TO HOUSING STABILITY SERVICES.
WE ALSO PROVIDE, UH, WE OFFER SERVICES, UM, TO INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE, UM, IF THERE IS A VIOLENCE IN THE FAMILY OR IN THE, IN THE HOUSEHOLD.
WE REFER THEM TO FAMILY VIOLENCE PREVENTION SERVICES, AND THEY PROVIDE SHELTER, UH, TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, COUNSELING AND LEGAL SERVICES.
UH, WE ALSO, WE ALSO REFER FAMILIES OR INDIVIDUALS TO, UM, ADOPT ADULT PROTECTIVE SERVICES OR CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES IF NEEDED.
AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION THIS MORNING.
UM, WE TALKED TO YOU BEFORE YES.
WHEN YOU WERE HERE IN ONE OF THE MEETINGS.
AND I ASK A QUESTION, BUT I'M GONNA ASK IT AGAIN.
FOR THE FULL BOARD, WHEN YOU OFFER SERVICES, NOT ONLY TO THE PEOPLE ON THE DARK, BUT I, I KNOW YOU GO OUT TO OTHER, LIKE THE, UH, HOMELESS AREAS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
UH, WE EXPECT THE PROGRAM OR THE ORGANIZATION WE REFER THEM TO, TO FOLLOW UP WITH THE FAMILIES OR THE INDIVIDUAL.
UM, BUT IF IT'S, UH, THE RELOCATION PROGRAM, IF THEY DO ACCEPT TO RECEIVE RELOCATION ASSISTANCE, OF COURSE WE DO FOLLOW UP.
IF IT'S ANOTHER PROGRAM OR SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF NHSD, UH, WE TYPICALLY DO NOT FOLLOW UP WITH THEM.
AND THE NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE, AND WE SEE THIS WHEN THEY COME BEFORE THE BOARD, THAT WE ASK THE OFFICERS AND THEY TELL US IT'S USUALLY THE SAME PEOPLE THAT THEY RUN INTO SOME OF THESE HOUSES.
IS THAT THE SAME CASE WITH YOU? DO YOU RUN INTO SOME OF THE SAME PEOPLE THAT YOU'VE ALREADY ADDRESSED BEFORE FOR HOUSING? UM, BASED ON, UH, MY EXPERIENCE WITH IT, UM, IT'S USUALLY DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS WITH DIFFERENT PROPERTIES.
UM, SO IT'S NOT THE SAME SET OF PEOPLE.
UM, BUT, UM, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IT'S USUALLY DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS.
UM, CAN WE GO BACK TO SLIDE ONE? UM, I, I, I HAVE QUESTIONS FROM FOR MULTIPLE SLIDES HERE.
UH, SO HERE IT SAYS, UH, RELOCATION ASSISTANCE DOES NOT COVER THE RENT.
SO, UM, WHEN YOU'RE, YOU'RE OFFERING THE RELOCATION ASSISTANCE TO SOMEONE WHO IS AT A PROP, UH, DART PROPERTY, UM, AND THEY'VE BEEN GIVEN A NOTICE TO VACATE, IT'S NOT COVERING, IT JUST COVERS THESE EXPENSES.
AND, AND IS IT REIMBURSEMENT, DO THEY HAVE TO PAY THAT STUFF OUT UPFRONT AND THEN GET REIMBURSED FOR IT? OR, UM, ARE, ARE THEY ABLE TO SAY, OKAY, I WANT TO APPLY FOR THIS APARTMENT AND I NEED YOU TO GO, I NEED Y'ALL TO PAY THE APPLICATION FEE? SO THE RELOCATION PROGRAM OR THE APPLICATION PROCESS, UM, IT TAKES ABOUT, UH, UH, 30 TO 60 DAYS.
UM, ONCE THE CLIENT SUBMITS THE APPLICATION, UM, IT'S, IT'S REVIEWED BY THE CASE MANAGER, AND WE PROVIDE THEM WITH WHAT IS CALLED A LETTER OF INTENT.
THE LETTER OF INTENT HAS THE LIST OF SERVICES OR ASSISTANCE WE CAN PROVIDE TO THEM.
AND THEN THE FAMILY OR THE INDIVIDUAL THEN, UM, LOOKS FOR ANOTHER PLACE TO RENT.
AND ONCE THEY'RE APPROVED FOR THAT PLACE, WE MAKE A PAYMENT DIRECTLY TO THE VENDOR, UM, THE LANDLORD, UH, THE MOVING COMPANY.
SO ALL THE ASSISTANCE IS USUALLY MADE, PAID OUT AFTER THE, AFTER THEY SECURE A NEW PLACE, A UNIT, OR A, A WHOLE HOUSE, DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY WANT.
UM, IT'S PAID DIRECTLY TO THE VENDOR.
IT'S NOT A REIMBURSEMENT, UM, KIND OF PAYMENT.
AND THEN THE, ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE
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ABOUT THAT, UH, IS THERE A LOT OF LANDLORDS THAT ARE PARTICIPATING IN THIS PROGRAM? OR IS IT HARD FOR, UM, PEOPLE ACCEPTING RELOCATION TO ACTUALLY FIND A PLACE TO MOVE TO? SO, THE PROBLEM I'VE SEEN IS MOST OF THE, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, UM, MOST OF THE FAMILIES THAT WE DO ASSIST ARE UNDER THE 30% AMI, WHICH IS LIKE, THEY'RE MAKING, UM, LITTLE TO NO INCOME.AND MOST OF THE LANDLORD WANTS, UM, YOU KNOW, WANTS THEM TO MAKE 2.5 TIMES THE RENT AMOUNT OR THREE TIMES.
SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A, IT'S REALLY HARD FOR THE CLIENTS THAT WE SERVE TO SECURE A NEW PLACE, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE ON FIXED INCOME.
UM, BUT WE DO HAVE, UH, WE HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH AN APARTMENT LOCATORS THAT HELP, UM, THAT HELPS THE FAMILY TO IDENTIFY PROPERTIES THAT, OR TO IDENTIFY LANDLORDS WHO ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH THESE FAMILIES WITH THE LIMITED INCOME.
AND, AND WHAT'S, DO YOU KNOW, UM, MY CITY, MY HOME IS THAT PARTNER, UH, ARE YOU AWARE OF, UH, THE BACKLOG WITH HIM? UM, I CAN'T SPEAK ON THAT.
UM, CAN YOU ELABORATE ON WHAT YOUR CUSTODY? OKAY.
SO, UM, I SPOKE TO RICHARD COSTA YESTERDAY, AND HE SAID THAT HE'S STILL PROCESSING OBLIGATIONS FROM, UH, END OF JULY, BEGINNING OF, OH, YES.
SO WE'RE STILL RECEIVING RELOCATION, UH, APPLICATION.
SO WITH EVERY MONTH WE, WE SEND THEM A LIST OF, UM, FAMILIES THAT ARE READY TO MOVE INTO A NEW PLACE.
SO WITH EACH MONTH WE HAVE A NEW LIST.
SO, UH, AND THEN ON THE SECOND SLIDE, CAN WE GO TO THE SECOND SLIDE? UH, I HAVE A QUESTION.
WERE YOU FINISHED, KAYLA? WELL, YEAH.
I JUST HAD ONE MORE QUESTION AND THEN I'LL BE DONE.
UM, SO, UH, I CAN'T READ, I, I'M SORRY, I CAN'T EVEN READ MY OWN WRITING.
UH, MY QUESTION WAS ON, UH, THE REFERRALS WHERE IT SAYS YOU'RE, THEY'RE GETTING, UH, REFERRAL NETWORKS.
UM, ARE, ARE THE RESIDENTS REQUIRED TO LIKE, GO, GO TO THESE DIFFERENT REFERRAL PLACES OR ARE THEY COMING TO THEM? SO WITH EACH DARK VISIT, UM, THE STAFF ASSESS THE SITUATION, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE INDIVIDUAL NEED.
WE, UM, HAVE A LIST OF, UM, PARTNER AGENCY OR PROGRAMS THAT MIGHT ASSIST THIS PERSON.
SO WE PROVIDE THEM WITH A LIST, OR SOMETIMES WE CAN REACH OUT TO THE PROGRAM OR TO THE ORGANIZATION ON BEHALF OF THE, UM, INDIVIDUAL AND CONNECT THEM TOGETHER.
SO IT, OUR PROPERTIES, IT'S A THREE DAY NOTICE TO BEATE.
WHAT IS THE LIKELIHOOD OF THEM FINDING A PLACE TO STAY IN THOSE THREE DAYS? IT'S, IT'S VERY HARD FOR THEM TO FIND, UM, IN, IN, IN THAT INSTANCE, WE WOULD REFER THEM TO HOMELESS SHELTER.
SO, SO TELL ME THIS, YOU SAID ONCE YOU GET THE PERSON IN SOME KIND OF ASSISTANCE LIVING OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, AND THEN YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T TRACK THEM ANY FURTHER.
SO HOW DO YOU DETERMINE YOUR SUCCESS OR FAILURE RATE? SO WE DO HAVE A LIST TO TRACK THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE SPEAK TO, TO SEE IF THEY, UM, IF THEY DECIDED TO UTILIZE THE SERVICES.
BUT IN TERMS OF HOW THE SERVICE ACTUALLY HELP THEM, UH, WE DO NOT TRACK THAT.
IT'S, IT'S BETWEEN THE, THE OTHER ORGANIZATION, THE THIRD PARTY ORGANIZATION AND THE CLIENT.
SO THEY COMBINE THEIR TRACKING WITH YOUR TRACKING? NO, NO.
SO IF IT'S, IF WE'RE PROVIDING THEM STRICTLY, UH, RELOCATION ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, WE DEFINITELY DO, DO TRACK THAT.
BUT IF, LET'S ASSUME IF THEY HAVE TO GO INTO A HOMELESS SHELTER, UM, WE DO NOT TRACK HOW LONG THEY STAY IN THE HOMELESS SHELTER.
IF THEY DO NEED THE ASSISTANCE, THEY CAN REACH UP, THEY CAN REACH BACK TO US.
AND WE DO PROVIDE OTHER SERVICES.
SO I, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, YOU, I, I, THIS IS MY PERSONAL OPINION.
AND THAT WAS, THAT WAS SO WRONG BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO TRACK PEOPLE 'CAUSE THEY MOVE AROUND.
SO YOU HAVE TO TRY TO KEEP UP WITH THEM IN ORDER TO DETERMINE YOUR, YOUR SUCCESS, YOUR, YOUR PROGRAM SUCCESS AND FAILURE.
UH, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU, YOU'LL GET, I GUESS YOU'LL GET FUNDS FROM THE GOVERNMENT OR FROM MM-HMM.
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AND YOU DON'T WANT TO SPEND YOUR MONEY FOOLISHLY.AND I'M NOT TELLING YOU HOW TO RUN YOUR PROGRAM.
BUT, UH, THAT WOULD DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT YOU WOULD PUT MORE FUNDS TOWARDS THAT PERSON.
I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T GET YOUR, YOUR SUCCESS RATE.
UM, IN RESPONSE TO THAT, UH, WE DO REFER THEM TO, UM, DHS AND THEY CAN PROVIDE IN-DEPTH CASE MANAGEMENT.
UM, WITH NHSD, UM, WE ARE FOCUSING ON THEIR RELOCATION ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.
AND THAT'S LIKE ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROGRAM IN THE DEPARTMENT.
IF THE CLIENT DOES WANT THE ASSISTANCE, WE'RE ABLE TO TRACK TO SEE IF THEY FOUND A PLACE OR NOT.
BUT ONCE THEY MOVE INTO LIKE A HOMELESS SHELTER OR THEY DECIDE NOT TO UTILIZE, AND IN SOME INSTANCES WE WOULD REACH OUT TO THE INDIVIDUALS AND THERE'S NO RESPONSE.
UM, IN THAT CASE, THERE'S REALLY NOTHING MUCH WE CAN DO ON OUR HAND.
'CAUSE WE'RE REACHING OUT TO THIS INDIVIDUAL AND THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO RESPONSE.
SO, BUT DHS IS ABLE TO PROVIDE A MORE IN-DEPTH, UM, CASE MANAGEMENT FOR THESE FAMILIES.
I, I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY A COUPLE THINGS.
SO I HEARD, UH, ONCE THEY DECIDE NOT TO UTILIZE THE PROGRAM, UM, WE GET A LOT OF REPORT BACKS AND WE OFTEN HEAR THEY DECIDED NOT TO USE SERVICES, THEY REFUSE TO USE SERVICES.
BUT YOU'VE ALREADY SAID IN THE MAJORITY OF CASES, IN THE CLIENTS THAT YOU'RE WORKING WITH, THEY DON'T QUALIFY FOR THOSE SERVICES.
NOT BECAUSE THEY DON'T QUALIFY FOR THE INITIAL APPLICATION, BUT BECAUSE THEY CAN'T FIND A UNIT AFFORDABLE AT THEIR INCOME LEVEL AND THEY CAN'T PASS A, ALL THE ADDITIONAL RED TAPE THAT IS REQUIRED IN ORDER TO ACCEPT THAT SERVICE.
AND THE SAME THING FOR HAVEN FOR HOPE, THEY'RE, UH, FULL A LOT OF TIME.
AND WHEN THEY'RE NOT, YOU HAVE TO SLEEP OUTSIDE.
OPEN COURTYARD OUTSIDE ON THE GROUND OR STAYING WHERE YOU'RE AT AND BEING OUT ON THE STREET.
BUT AT LEAST YOU CAN HIDE YOURSELF, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM.
SO I, I'M HEARING THEY'RE REFUSING THE S SERVICES, THEY'RE NOT ACCEPTING THE SERVICES, BUT THE REALITY OF IT IS THEY CAN'T MM-HMM.
UM, IN OTHER INSTANCES, WHEN WE, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, UH, THERE'S A PARTICULAR INDIVIDUAL WE REFER THEM TO, UM, MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THEY DECIDED NOT TO UTILIZE THAT SERVICE.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING, IT'S UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL TO EITHER DECIDE TO, YOU KNOW, REACH OUT TO THIS PROGRAM AND SEE WHAT SERVICES THEY CAN PROVIDE TO, TO THEM, OR THEY CAN PROVIDE FOR THEM.
SO IN INSTANCES LIKE THAT, UM, THERE'S REALLY NOTHING MUCH WE CAN DO ON OUR HAND IF THE CLIENT OR IF THE INDIVIDUAL DECIDED NOT TO PROCEED.
SO WHAT I AM CURIOUS TO KNOW IS WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO MAKE THE RELOCATION SERVICES PROGRAM MORE SUCCESSFUL? UM, WHAT WOULD, WHAT COULD WE DO? NOT WE, THE BOARD, BUT, UM, WHAT COULD WE ADVOCATE FOR, UM, IN ORDER TO MAKE THE RELOCATION SERVICES PROGRAM MORE SUCCESSFUL? I KNOW IT'S OUTSIDE TECH, UH, TECHNICALLY OF OUR PURVIEW, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.
I WOULD SAY MORE, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
UM,
THAT'S THE GOLDEN ANSWER, RIGHT?
UM, BECAUSE IF, IF THE FAMILIES OR INDIVIDUALS CANNOT SECURE, UM, A PLACE DUE TO THEIR INCOME OR, YOU KNOW, ZERO TO LITTLE INCOME, THERE'S NO WAY TO, FOR THEM TO SECURE THE PLACE.
SO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, ARE THERE, DISCRIM, WE'VE, MY COLLEAGUES TOUCHED UPON THE, UM, NOTION OF DISCRIMINATION BASED ON, UM, BEING A CLIENT OF YOUR PROGRAM.
UM, IS THERE, UM, DO YOU, NEVERMIND I WITHDRAW THAT QUESTION 'CAUSE I ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER.
UM, I, I ALSO WANNA ASK, LIKE, THE REFERRALS, I, I KNOW YOU SAID THAT THE REFERRALS FOR DHS AND, AND DHS LEFT ALREADY, BUT, UM, MY QUESTION IS, IS, IS IN YOUR EXPERIENCE, HAVE PEOPLE ALREADY GONE THROUGH THE SYSTEM AND GONE THROUGH THESE PROGRAMS BEFORE? UM, THE, THE INDIVIDUALS THAT YOU'RE MEETING AT THE PROPERTIES, LIKE THEY, WHEN YOU'RE SPEAKING TO THEM ABOUT THE ISSUES, HAVE THEY SAID, OH, WELL, I'VE
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ALREADY DONE THIS AND IT DOESN'T WORK? MM-HMM.WE'VE COME ACROSS, UM, A COUPLE OF INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE GONE THROUGH THE PROGRAM, OR NOT REALLY RELOCATION PROGRAM, BUT OTHER SERVICES.
AND, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE DO NOT WANNA LIVE IN THE SHELTER EVEN FOR HOPE.
AND DUE TO, YOU KNOW, THEIR GUIDELINES.
AND YES, WE, WE HAVE COME ACROSS, UM, INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE, WHO HAVE GONE THROUGH THE PROGRAM BEFORE.
AND IS IT THE SAME WITH, UM, INDIVIDUAL? WELL, AND I, I KNOW THAT WHEN YOU GO TO HAVEN FOR HOPE, UM, UH, YOU CAN'T BE ON DRUGS.
SO FOR THOSE WHO NEED TO GO THROUGH THE DETOX PROGRAM FIRST IN ORDER TO QUALIFY, HAVE YOU HAD ISSUES GETTING A BED? I KNOW THERE'S ONLY 12 BEDS FOR THE ENTIRE CITY.
UM, SO I CAN'T SPEAK ON, UM, EVEN FOR HOPE AND THEIR CAPACITY TO, OR WE WOULD REFER THEM TO, YOU KNOW, EVEN FOR HOPE.
AND, UM, IT'S, IT'S A CONVERSATION BETWEEN THE INDIVIDUAL AND EVEN FOR HOPE, IF THEY CHOOSE TO, IF EVEN FOR HOPE, CHOOSE CHOOSES TO ACCEPT THEM INTO THE PROGRAM THEN.
UM, BUT I CAN'T REALLY SPEAK ON, ON THAT.
SO WHEN YOU SAY REFERRALS, YOU MEAN LIKE YOU'RE TELLING THEM, OKAY, YOU NEED TO GO HERE, HERE AND HERE WE CAN CONNECT YOU.
LIKE THERE'S NO, WELL, YES, THEY CAN ACCEPT THE SERVICE OR NO, THEY DON'T QUALIFY FOR THE SERVICE.
SO BASICALLY YOU'RE JUST TELLING THEM THAT THIS IS A POSSIBILITY, BUT IT'S NOT LIKE AN ACTUAL REFERRAL WHERE THEY WILL GET SERVICES.
IT'S JUST AN LIKE AN IDEA BASICALLY.
SO WE ASSESS THEIR SITUATION AND WE KNOW OF THIS PROGRAMS, WE KNOW, UM, IF THEY WOULD QUALIFY OR NOT, BUT IT'S REALLY UP TO THE PROGRAM TO, UM, QUALIFY THEM FOR THE PROGRAM.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU SO MUCH, MA'AM.
WHY DON'T WE TAKE A FIVE, 10 MINUTE BREAK HERE.
AND COULD Y'ALL DO SOMETHING WITH THE AIR CONDITION IN HERE? I'M JUST, TURN IT UP CRAZY.
IT'S NOW 1120 AND THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD WILL RECONVENE.
HEY, WHY ARE THEY LEAVING? I DON'T KNOW.
OUR DSD LAY LIAISON COMMUNITY OUTREACH.
DID YOU START TO ME, DID WE START? YEAH, DID.
MY NAME'S INGRID CASTILLO MECADO.
I'M THE MANAGEMENT ANALYST FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT.
I'M GONNA COVER A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING, UH, SINCE I STARTED.
SO, UM, I CAME ON BAR ON BOARD ON MARCH OF THIS YEAR.
THERE WAS A, A NEED FOR, UM, SOMEONE TO KIND OF HELP MITIGATE TRACK DOCUMENT, UM, REFERRALS ALREADY BEING SUBMITTED BY THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS.
UM, IT WAS A BIT CHALLENGING FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS TO NOT ONLY ISSUE NOTICES, BUT ALSO AT THE SAME, UM, SAME TIME REFER SERVICES, RIGHT? SO I KIND OF HELPED SMOOTH OUT THAT CONVERSATION A LITTLE BIT AND HELP TRACK.
UM, SO I DID COME ON BOARD ON MARCH.
IT HELPED WITH, UM, DSD BRIDGE COMMUNICATION GAPS BETWEEN, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOUSING NHSD AND DHS.
I BECAME THE SINGLE POINT OF CONTACT FOR, UM, CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS.
SO IF THEY, IF THEY HAVE ANY TYPE OF QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO REFERRALS THAT THEY'VE ALREADY SUBMITTED, THEY'LL REACH OUT TO ME, HEY, INGRID, YOU KNOW, LIKE, WHAT'S THE STATUS? WAS SERVICES OFFERED TO THESE INDIVIDUALS? AND I KIND OF JUST GO IN AND CHECK AND, AND, UM, KEEP TRACK OF THAT.
IT'S ALLOWED US TO, UM, COMMUNICATE SEAMLESSLY BETWEEN OUR DEPARTMENTS AS TO OPPOSED, YOU KNOW, HAVING DIFFERENT EMAILS, UM, MAYBE BEING FILTERED TO CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS AND THEN MAYBE KIND OF MISSING COMMUNICATIONS.
SO IT'S KIND OF HELPED, UM, ALLEVIATE SOME OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND KIND OF KEEPING EVERYONE ON BOARD AND ON THE SAME PAGE.
UM, IT'S ALLOWED US TO BETTER DOCUMENT, UM, AND TRACK CASES THAT HAVE BEEN IMPACTED BY OUTREACH.
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THIS IS JUST SOME OF, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE DEVELOPED.SO THIS IS A, UM, ONSITE INTAKE FORM THAT I CREATED.
THIS IS A FORM THAT OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS USE ON THE FIELD.
SO IF THEY ASSESS, IF THEY GO ON A SITE AND THEY'RE DOING AN INSPECTION, THEY ASSESS THE NEED, THEY WILL, UM, FILL OUT THIS QUICK FORM EITHER, UM, ON THEIR MOBILE TABLET, MOBILE PHONE, AND JUST ASKS THEM BASIC INFORMATION AND IT, AND THEN ON THERE, I WILL, UM, THEN SEE THAT POP UP ON MY END.
AND THEN I'LL CHANNEL THAT DEPENDING ON WHAT KIND OF SERVICES ARE NEEDED TO EITHER N-H-S-D-D-H-S.
UM, I HAVE BEEN ALSO BEEN COMMUNICATING WITH, UM, APS AND DIFFERENT, UM, LIKE COMMUNITY CHURCH OUTREACH, I MEAN COMMUNITY, DIFFERENT CHURCHES IN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL, JUST DEPENDING ON WHAT THE NEED ACTUALLY IS.
UM, SO THIS FORM HERE, UM, COMES TO MY AREA AND I BASICALLY KEEP TRACK OF ALL OF THAT.
UM, THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT FORMS. SO THERE'S, THERE'S ONE FORM THAT THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS UTILIZE, AND THEN THERE'S ACTUALLY ANOTHER ONE THAT WE JUST ESTABLISHED FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO FILL OUT.
IT DOESN'T ASK ALL THE, UM, IT DOESN'T ASK SO MANY DETAILED QUESTIONS AS THE ONE THAT OUR OFFICERS USE.
IT'S MORE BASIC CONTACT INFORMATION.
SO ONCE THE REFERRAL COMES, UM, ON OUR END, I DO GET IN CONTACT WITH NHSD OR DHS.
WE DO CONDUCT HOME VISITS DEPENDING ON WHAT KIND OF IMPACT.
UM, I DO GO TO SOME, SINCE I AM JUST A SINGLE INDIVIDUAL ON, ON OUR END, I DON'T GO TO ALL THE HOME VISITS, BUT I DO MAKE, UM, AN ATTEMPT TO GO TO DIFFERENT, UM, HOME VISITS JUST DEPENDING ON THE SEVERITY OF THE CASE, UM, OR IF THERE'S A LOT OF HOUSEHOLD INDIVIDUALS THAT MAY BE IMPACTED.
UM, I'VE ALSO DONE COMMUNITY EVENTS WHERE WE LIKE SPREAD AWARENESS, UM, AND WE SPREAD AWARENESS ON DIFFERENT WAYS THAT CODE HAS BEEN, UM, CODE ENFORCEMENT HAS BEEN HELPING BACK IN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, HERE'S JUST A LITTLE BIT OF RESULTS.
SO, UM, WE'VE, I'VE RECEIVED 165 TOTAL REFERRALS.
UM, THAT'S BASICALLY 165, UM, INTAKE FORMS IN MY SPACE.
IN THE FOURTH QUARTER, WE HAVE CONNECTED WITH 288 HOUSEHOLDS.
UM, THE PROGRAM HAS GROWN FROM RECEIVING AN AVERAGE OF 20 REFERRALS A MONTH TO APPROXIMATELY ABOUT 35 REFERRALS A MONTH.
WE STARTED A SOFT, UM, LAUNCH BACK IN MAY, AND THEN WE STARTED ACTUALLY FULL-BLOWN AFTER WE, UM, TRAINED ALL OFFICERS ON THE NEW PRO PROCEDURES IN JUNE.
SO I'VE BEEN COLLECTING INFORMATION AND DATA SINCE JUNE.
UM, CURRENTLY WE HAVE, UM, THE MONTH OF OCTOBER HAS ABOUT 43, AND RIGHT NOW WE ALREADY HAVE 12 REFERRALS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FOR, UM, NO, THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER.
ANY QUESTIONS? THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
IN YOUR DATA COLLECTION MM-HMM.
ON THE INFORMATION OF WHERE THEY CAN RECEIVE SERVICES SO THEY CAN OUTREACH YOU ON THEIR OWN? YES, CORRECT.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WERE AWARE OF THAT.
SO THE, THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, IF THEY GO OUT, UM, AND THEY DO SPEAK TO THE RESIDENT, UM, IN THE HOUSEHOLD.
SAY THE RESIDENT DOESN'T WANT TO TAKE ANY SERVICES, THEY DO LEAVE INFORMATION, THERE'S A COMMUNITY GUY THAT'S LEFT, THERE'S CONTACT INFORMATION THAT'S LEFT.
WHENEVER THE, UM, WHENEVER WE DO CONDUCT THE, THE OUTREACH AND NHSD OR DHS DOES GO OUT THERE, SAY THEY DON'T COMMUNICATE OR THEY CAN'T GET AHOLD OF THE RESIDENT, THEN THEY WILL LEAVE THEIR CONTACT INFORMATION, WHICH IS THE HOUSING ADVOCATE'S INFORMATION.
AND THEY, THEY TYPICALLY WILL DO, UM, THEY'LL CALL MULTIPLE TIMES BEFORE THEY GO AND THEN THEY DO A SITE VISIT SO THEY DON'T JUST SHOW UP.
THEY KIND OF LIKE TO SOFTEN THAT CONVERSATION AND LET THEM KNOW, YOU KNOW, LIKE, HEY, I'M GONNA COME OVER.
BUT THEY'RE NOT PART OF, UM, THEY'RE NOT A UNIFORM CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.
SO IT KIND OF HELPS A LITTLE BIT OF THE CONVERSATION.
SO IT HASN'T BEEN IN THE, UH, YOUR OFFICE BEFORE, THIS IS JUST A NEW CREATED OR SO WE'RE, WHEN DO YOU EXPECT TO SEE POSITIVE AND NEGATIVES FROM THIS? WELL, FROM, UM, CODE ENFORCEMENT HAS ALWAYS DONE, UM, OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS HAVE ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, OFFERED SERVICES, BUT WE'VE NEVER TRACKED IT.
SO THIS IS NEW IN THE TRACKING SENSE.
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IN, IN A YEAR FROM NOW WE'LL HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF, YOU KNOW, HOW ALL OF THIS IS REALLY IMPACTING RIGHT NOW I ONLY HAVE, UM, JUST FROM JUNE TO LAST MONTH DATA.SO BASED OFF THE INFORMATION YOU HAVE SO FAR MM-HMM.
SO I DO REPORTS MONTHLY AND THEN I ALSO DO QUARTER REPORTS.
BUT PRIOR TO YOUR EXISTENCE IN YOUR DEPARTMENT OH, I IS, ARE YOU LOOKING TO GO BACK AND SEEING A TREND IF YOU CAN FIT IT INTO YOURS AND SEE IF YOU CAN FIT A TREND ON YOUR THIS IS, THIS IS, I MEAN, THOMAS, LET ME ANSWER THAT.
SO, UH, THIS PROGRAM IS A PILOT PROGRAM.
AND WE STARTED WITH ONE PERSON TO SEE HOW IT GONNA WORK.
IF WE GET THE DEMAND, THEN WE POTENTIALLY GONNA GO BACK TO COUNCIL AND ADD MORE RESOURCES, UH, MORE LIAISON, UH, DEPENDING ON, DEPENDS ON THE NEED.
BUT THIS PROGRAM IS NOT RETROACTIVE.
SO WE'RE NOT GONNA GO BACK AND LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE BECAUSE AGAIN, WE NEEDED THAT INTAKE FORM TO KNOW WHAT THE NEED IS AND THEN MOVE FORWARD.
IT'S REALLY HARD TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT PREVIOUS CASES TO SEE WHAT WAS NEEDED.
WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
NO, I'M NOT SAYING WHAT WAS NEEDED.
WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS, YOU KNOW, HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF AND ALL DATA COMES FROM PREVIOUS DATA.
SO YOU CAN BETTER TRACK OR BETTER ADJUST YOUR SERVICES.
AND THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING, CAN YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE PREVIOUS DATA TO HELP THE SERVICES THAT SHE HAS AND THEN MAYBE BE ABLE TO ANTICIPATE THE YEAR AHEAD, LIKE YOU'RE DOING MOST OF YOUR BUDGETING, SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH THESE NUMBERS OR BECAUSE IT'S PILOT, IT'S NOT AT THAT POINT YET.
YEAH, BECAUSE IT'S PILOT, WE ARE NOT AT THAT POINT.
I MEAN, WE ARE GATHERING THE DATA NOW AND WE ARE REVIEWING THAT ON MONTHLY BASIS.
UM, AND AGAIN, DEPENDING ON WHAT WE SEE, WE CAN MAKE FUTURE, UH, EXPANSIONS POTENTIALLY.
SO IT'S THIS BUDGET THAT SHE HAD OR THE BUDGET THAT WAS, WAS ALREADY IN THE BUDGET BECAUSE YOU'VE ASKED FOR IT AND IS IT GONNA CONTINUE? YES.
IT'S, IT'S IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, UH, FOR, SO TECHNICALLY YES, IT'S, IT'S INCLUDED IN OUR CURRENT BUDGET AND WE WILL PROBABLY TOUCH MORE ON THAT WHEN WE GET INTO THE OTHER PARTS OF THE BUDGETING AND ALL THAT FOR THE MANPOWER STUFF THAT WE NORMALLY TALK ABOUT LATER DOWN THE ROAD.
WELL, IT'S NICE TO HAVE YOU ON BOARD AND IT'S, AND IT'S NICE TO SEE YOU FROM OVER THERE TO OVER HERE GIVING SPEECHES,
WE APPRECIATE IT AND THANK YOU.
UM, I HAVE A, JUST TO CLARIFY, THE, THE GOALS YOUR POSITION ARE TO COMMUNICATE BETTER BETWEEN THE
SO IT COULD BE HOMEOWNERS OR THE TENANTS GOT IT.
ANY OTHER? SO WHAT, SO WHAT YOU DO IS YOU KEEP TRACK OF THE DATA.
IS THAT WHAT I'M MISSING? CORRECT.
WELL, I'M GLAD TO SEE SOMEBODY'S TRACKING SOMETHING.
AND LIKE, LIKE FRED SAID, YOU KNOW, THE HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF.
SO IF YOU SEE, IF YOU SEE A BAD APPLE HERE AND YOU KEEP MOVING AND MOVING AND MOVING HIM, HE'S GONNA BE A BAD APPLE HERE AND THERE.
SO THAT, AND THAT DEPENDS A LOT ON WHERE YOUR MONEY IS GONNA GO.
YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T WANT TO KEEP SPONSORING A BAD APPLE.
SO I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT YOU'RE ON BOARD.
MAYBE YOU CAN KEEP THOSE PEOPLE OVER THERE IN LINE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, MS. BROWN.
WELL, YOU KNOW, I'M, I WAS A MANAGER BEFORE I CAME OVER HERE.
I WAS A MANAGER AT AND T FOR LIKE 25, 27 YEARS.
SO I KNOW ALL ABOUT DATA
THINK OH, WE HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.
NO, I APPLAUD WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
I THINK, I THINK IT'S KEY FOR THIS COMMUNITY THAT, THAT COMMUNICATING WITH THE PUBLIC, THE GENERAL PUBLIC AT ALL LEVELS AND EDUCATING THEM AS TO THE PROCESS AND EDU AND ENCOURAGING THEM TO EDUCATE THEIR COMMUNITY.
IT'S NOT, NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, CASE BY CASE MM-HMM.
BUT THE INFORMATION NEEDS TO GET OUT THERE AND WE NEED TO ALL HELP EACH OTHER.
UM, SO I, I APPLAUD WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
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IT, I HOPE YOU, UM, CAN JUST CONTINUE THE SUCCESSFUL PASSING THE, UH, THE EDUCATION AND THE, AND THE, THE OUTREACH.UM, SO DANNY, I THINK DANNY IS NEXT.
IT IS LIKE YOU ONLY SHOW UP ONCE A YEAR TO SEE US.
NOW WHAT'S UP WITH THAT? IT'S LIKE WHEN THEY ALL BECOME MANAGERS, THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T COME TO THE BOTTOM FLOOR NO MORE HERE ANYMORE.
DANNY LEE IS CODE ENFORCEMENT ADMINISTRATOR.
SO, UH, WE WERE SCHEDULED TO HAVE A PRESENTATION, UH, BY CITY PUBLIC SERVICE.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE DON'T HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE HERE THIS MORNING.
SO WHAT I WANTED TO DO IS, SINCE WE HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA, JUST KIND OF, UH, I GUESS REALLY ASK QUESTIONS IF, AND MAYBE WE COULD TAKE IT BACK TO CPS AND SEE IF WE CAN ANSWER SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS YOU GUYS HAD, UH, ABOUT THE, I GUESS THE DISCONNECTION PROCESS IN GENERAL.
SO I'M REALLY JUST AT YOUR MERCY IF YOU WANT TO JUST SHOOT QUESTIONS AND I CAN, AT OUR MERCY, WE ASK SOMEBODY TO DESCRIBE AND, UM, MAYBE WE CAN REGROUP AT THE NEXT FULL BOARD MEETING AND, AND HAVE THOSE QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
I, I THINK YOU USED THE WRONG CHOICE OF WORD WHEN YOU SAID AT OUR, AT AL MERCY, AT OUR MERCY, YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE USED THAT
UM, NO, I THINK THE BIGGEST THING I, I'M MORE CONS WAS, UM, TO CONNECT ALL THESE DOTS THAT WE HAVE BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT ALL THESE DEPARTMENTS BEFORE IT GETS TO US AND EVERY ONE OF THEM HAVE A PIECE OF THE PIE.
YOU HAVE ALL OF THOSE PLAYERS THAT WE DON'T REALLY SEE UNTIL A FEW LAST MONTH AND A COUPLE OF MEETINGS THAT WE NOW SEE THE HOUSING PEOPLE COME AND SAY, YES, THEY OFFERED SERVICES AND THEY REJECTED.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF SHADOW PEOPLE IN THE BACK THAT, THAT ARE IN THERE.
UM, AND SEVERAL PROPERTIES THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IS, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS PUT IN FOR A CUTOFF OF SERVICES AND YET WHEN WE SEE THE SLIDES, CURRENT SLIDES, THEY'RE STILL THERE AND NOTES MAY HAVE READ A MONTH OR SO BACK.
SO I WAS JUST TRYING TO FIGURE, AND MAYBE THE CPS PEOPLE CAN ANSWER IT BETTER.
WHAT, WHEN YOU GUYS TURN IT OVER, IS THEIR PROCESS OF CUTTING OFF AN EMERGENCY SERVICE CUTOFF FOR THEM.
THAT YOU GUYS CAN'T ANSWER BECAUSE ONCE YOU TURN IT OVER TO THEM, IT'S THEIR STEPS THAT THEY GO THROUGH.
BUT THE REASON I'VE ASKED THAT IS 'CAUSE WE'VE SEEN SEVERAL PICTURES THAT IT WAS ASKED MONTHS OR A MONTH AGO BEFORE, AND WE'VE SEEN THE PICTURES AND THE SERVICES ARE STILL THERE.
SO THAT'S WHAT BROUGHT THE QUESTION UP.
SO TO ME IT'S KIND OF, IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR THAT SERVICE TO BE CUT OFF BECAUSE OF THE ISSUES OF ELECTRICAL, AND ONLY THEY CAN ANSWER THAT, WHY DOES IT TAKE 30 DAYS? AND MAYBE THEY CAN, THEY HAVE THE BETTER ANSWER.
IT'S PROBABLY SOME LEGAL ISSUE.
BUT IF IT'S AN EMERGENCY THAT YOUR GUYS ARE SENDING OVER AND SAYING, LOOK, THIS IS AN ELECTRICAL HAZARD, BUT IT DOESN'T GET ANSWERED ON THEIR END UNTIL THEY DECIDE TO COME OUT OR DRIVE THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND CUT IT OFF.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE BIGGEST ONE I HAD.
UH, I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER ONE DOWN THERE ABOUT, UH, UH, CPS BECAUSE THERE'S A UTILITY ISSUE THAT WE SEEM TO BE FINDING THAT A, A HOMEOWNER CAN GO SHUT ACPS POWER OFF, WHICH IS NOT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN OR CUT WATER OFF THAT THEY'RE NOT PAYING FOR THAT THE TENANT'S PAY 'EM FOR.
AND THAT SEEMS TO BE AN ISSUE IN THE UTILITY AREA, NOT YOURS.
SO THERE'S A GRAY AREA IN THERE THAT WHEN IT COMES IN HERE, YEAH, WE NEED TO KNOW THAT LINE OR UNDERSTAND.
AND I THINK THE ONLY ONE THAT COULD REALLY ANSWER THAT WOULD BE ACPS PERSON THAT IS PROBABLY OF THE LEVEL OF HIGHER THAN JUST THE GUY THAT WORKS THE LINES.
I, AND I CAN APPRECIATE YOU, UM, THAT I'M ON THE HOOK FOR THEIR, THEIR
UM, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE SOME OF THE, THE, THE, I GUESS COMMUNITY PARTNERS IF YOU WILL, UH, TODAY DOING PRESENTATIONS.
UH, I CAN SPEAK VAGUELY ABOUT THE, UH, CPS UTILITY PROCESS.
UH, WE DRIVE THE PROCESS, RIGHT? MEANING THAT THE DISTRICT CONNECTION REQUEST COMES THROUGH US OR FROM US, RIGHT? UM, IT, IT IS ON US TO, TO FOLLOW UP ACCORDINGLY TO MAKE SURE THEY GET COMPLETED.
UH, THERE'S AT LEAST THREE TYPES OF REQUESTS THAT WE, UM, THAT WE NORMALLY, UM, SUBMIT FOR.
UH, THE FIRST ONE IS GONNA BE THE EMERGENCY DEMOLITIONS, RIGHT? SO THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT YOU GUYS SEE THAT ARE FIRE DAMAGE OR IN THE EVENT MAYBE A CAR GOES THROUGH AND THERE'S SOME STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.
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BE DEMOLISHED.THOSE DISCONNECTS AND REQUESTS TAKE PLACE USUALLY THE SAME DAY, UH, BUT CERTAINLY WITHIN HOURS, RIGHT? SO THEY'RE DONE WITHIN 24 HOURS AT THE VERY, AT THE MAX, I GUESS IF YOU WILL.
UH, THAT INCLUDES THE GAS AND ELECTRIC.
THE OTHER REQUEST THAT WE HAVE IS, UM, WHAT WE CALL IS EXPEDITED REQUEST.
SO LET'S SAY WE GO OUT TO A LOCATION, WE DO AN INSPECTION AND WE SEE ELECTRICAL HAZARD, OR WE SEE SOME KIND OF HAZARD THAT IT CERTAINLY DOESN'T LOOK RIGHT.
WE MAKE THE, MAKE THE REQUEST TO CPS TO EXPEDITE THOSE REQUESTS.
THOSE TYPICALLY TAKE THREE TO FIVE DAYS, RIGHT? THOSE ARE THE ONES WHERE THERE'S A HAZARD, WE PUSH IT THROUGH, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GONNA BE BACK ON A COUPLE OF DAYS, MAYBE WE'RE WORKING ON NOTICE TO VACATE, UH, BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED QUICKLY.
UH, THEIR TURNAROUND IS THREE TO FIVE DAYS.
AND THESE ARE ALL SERVICE LEVEL AGREEMENTS THAT WE'VE COMMITTED TO, UH, OVER THE YEARS IN COMMUNICATION WITH CPS RIGHT NOW.
THE LAST ONE IS GONNA BE THE BOARD ORDERED ONE.
WE, WE CALL THE, THE NORMAL STANDARD 30 DAY PROCESS, RIGHT? UM, WHILE WE SAY IT'S 30 DAYS, UM, THERE'S BEEN SOME SLIGHT CHANGES WITH CPS, UM, FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL PERSPECTIVE THAT NOW IT TAKES UP TO 60 DAYS IN SOME CASES.
SO BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH SOME KIND OF ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY OR SURVEY, UM, THAT'S KIND OF MANDATED BY TCEQ THAT THEY REALLY CAN'T CIRCUMVENT THAT PROCESS.
UM, IT, IT DOES DELAY SOME OF THOSE DISCONNECTS.
SO SOME OF THE BOARD ORDERED DEMOLITIONS ARE GONNA TAKE A, A LITTLE BIT LONGER TO COMPLETE THE DISCONNECTION PROCESS BECAUSE AGAIN, THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS IF IT'S NOT AN EMERGENCY OR EXPEDITED REQUEST.
UM, AND AGAIN, MAYBE THAT'S MAYBE THE DELAY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
I DON'T KNOW THE CIRCUMSTANCES EXACT ALL THE DETAILS ABOUT WHAT YOU SHARED WITH ME EARLIER.
UH, BUT THAT COULD HAVE BEEN A POSSIBILITY WHERE IT HAD TO GO THROUGH THAT NORMAL CHANNEL AND THAT THERE'S THAT BUILTIN DELAY, RIGHT? SO THAT MAY HAVE BEEN A POSSIBILITY, BUT WHAT CERTAINLY MAKE A NOTE OF IT AND UM, FOLLOW UP ACCORDINGLY.
MY OTHER ONE IS, IS WHEN YOU AND ME WERE TALKING, TALKING ALMOST A YEAR AGO, RIGHT? ABOUT THAT SOLAR PANEL ISSUE.
AND YOU HAD A LIAISON FOR CPS, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR.
IS SHE STILL IN THERE? UH, I DON'T KNOW IF SHE'S STILL IN THERE.
SO LET ME, LET ME JUST GIVE YOU SOME CONTEXT OF HOW IT'S, HOW WE WORK ACCORDINGLY WITH CPS.
SO EACH MONTH, UH, I HAVE A STANDING MEETING WITH THEIR, THEIR LEADERSHIP, THEIR MANAGERS, RIGHT? UH, IT WAS PART OF, UM, JUST BUILDING A BETTER RELATIONSHIP, A WORKING RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE TWO DEPARTMENTS, RIGHT? UM, WHERE WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE WERE ISSUES THAT CAME UP THAT MONTH, WE QUICKLY ADDRESS THE ISSUE SO IT DOESN'T CONTINUE TO BE A PROBLEM MONTH AFTER MONTH, RIGHT? SO WE DO HAVE A, A STANDING MEETING MONTHLY, UH, WITH THEIR LEADERSHIP.
UH, AND IT'S JUST TO KIND OF IRON OUT ANY ISSUES THAT MAY HAVE COME UP OR JUST TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE THAT CPS HAS KIND OF GIVEN A HEADS UP.
LIKE EXAMPLE I SHARED WITH YOU THE DELAY IN, IN THEIR DISCONNECTION PROCESS, RIGHT? THEY STARTED WITH THAT MAYBE A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.
LIKE, HEY, THIS IS GONNA PROBABLY BUILD IN SOME DELAY IN YOUR PROCESS.
AND THEY JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH US.
SO WE KNOW COURT SO WE KNOW AS WELL, LIKE WHY IT'S TAKING A LITTLE BIT LONGER TO GET THE GAS DISCONNECTED.
BUT I THINK TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I DON'T KNOW SPECIFICALLY THAT PERSON I REFERENCED TO, BUT I DO HAVE A MEETING WITH THEIR MANAGERS ON A MONTHLY BASIS.
I KEEP THINKING IT'S LINDA, BUT I DON'T THINK IT IS 'CAUSE I SENT HER THE DOCUMENT FROM THE C FROM CPS OR GAS ENERGY, THAT PAGE THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, THAT IT SAYS YOU CANNOT GO BY THE METER WITHIN 10 FEET.
AND THE BEHIND THE METER THING WHERE THEY WERE BRINGING DOWN THE SOLAR PANEL, UH, GROUNDS.
THAT EXAMPLE, I THINK YOU MAY REFER INTO OUR CHIEF BUILDING, OUR CHIEF ELECTRICAL INSPECTOR, UH, VALERIE.
OKAY, WELL I'M GONNA HAVE TO GET BACK WITH HER AND YOU BECAUSE I SENT YOU BOTH THE THE PAGE.
THAT'S ON AND IT'S THE LIAISON APPARENTLY IS NOT HAPPENING SOMEWHERE, BUT THAT'S OUTTA YOUR JURISDICTION.
UM, AND I'LL GET BACK WITH YOU GUYS.
I'LL DO A FOLLOW UP AND SEE IF YOU GOT THE, THE DOCUMENTS.
AND SEE, AND, AND THEN I'M GONNA ASK YOU PROBABLY TO SEE IF THEY HAVE A CURRENT, UM, GUIDE FOR, FOR BETTER LACK OF WHAT THEY CALL IT.
UH, IT'S THE WHOLE, UH, SPECTRUM OF THE CPS GAS AND ENERGY.
AND THIS WAS OFF OF THE 2019 ONE AT THE TIME.
SO I'M ASSUMING THEY GOT A NEW ONE.
AND I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ON THAT WITH, WITH UH, AND HER, WITH THE EMAIL.
ONE MORE QUESTION I GOT, UH, ACTUALLY WHEN I WAS OUT, UH, AT THE LIBRARY, UH, FROM ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS, THEY HAD A, A NEIGHBOR THAT HAD HAD TAKEN DOWN THEIR SOLAR PANELS AND, AND PUT THEM IN THE FRONT YARD OF THEIR HOME.
AND NOW THEY'RE JUST SITTING THERE WAITING FOR DISPOSAL.
IS THERE ANY WAY TO, TO DISPOSE OF THOSE SOLAR PANELS? THAT, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO BE DISPOSED OF A COURT A CERTAIN WAY OR NOT.
UM, BUT CERTAINLY JUST STORING 'EM IN THE FRONT YARD, IT'S NOT ALLOWED JUST OUTRIGHT BY CODE.
SO I CAN CIRCLE BACK WITH YOU AND, AND MAYBE FOLLOW UP WITH YOU BY EMAIL ON THAT END.
AS A FOOTNOTE, UM, AS A CONTRACTOR, I WENT WITH THAT AND SOMEBODY ASKED ME WHEN THEY WERE GETTING RID OF
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THEIR OLDER, UH, PANELS, IT'S BEST TO GET AHOLD OF A SOLAR COMPANY BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE ACCESS TO GET RID OF THEM PROPERLY.'CAUSE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO, BECAUSE THE WAY TO GET RID OF SOLAR PANELS, JUST LIKE BATTERIES, UH, LITHIUM BATTERIES, YOU CANNOT DUMP 'EM IN.
THEY HAVE TO BE TREATED A SPECIAL WAY.
AND THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE A FACILITY FOR THAT THAT'S ALREADY BEEN LOOKED INTO.
SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET THE SOLAR COMPANY OR A SOLAR COMPANY TO SEE IF THEY'LL TAKE 'EM.
AND THEN IF NOT, THEN YOU'RE GONNA PROBABLY HAVE TO GO THROUGH A HAZMAT GAMUT TO FIND OUT WHO ACTUALLY CAN TAKE THE SOLAR PANEL FOR DISPOSAL.
I MEAN, I DIDN'T KNOW HOW YOU GOT RID OF 'EM.
THEY'RE MADE OUTTA GLASS, AREN'T THEY? I BELIEVE SO.
THERE'S SOME I'M SURE THEY'RE MADE OF, I MEAN, YEAH, RIGHT.
IT IS A TECHNOLOGY THAT'S ADVANCED RATHER QUICKLY.
SO THERE'S MULTIPLE GENERATIONS OF DIFFERENT STYLES OF PANELS.
SO EACH ONE REALLY HAS TO BE TREATED INDIVIDUALLY.
YEAH, YEAH, DEFINITELY IN BATTERY.
IT'S LIKE THE, IT'S LIKE THE ELECTRONIC VEHICLES.
WE DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR 'EM.
ALRIGHT, AND THERE, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'M SORRY, I JUST, WELL, I THINK WE'RE ALL GOOD.
OH, TO YOU, MARK, COME SEE US MORE OFTEN SO WE CAN PUT MORE HARD, HARDER QUESTIONS TO YOU.
SHE'S HIDING BEHIND THE I KNOW SHE'S HIDING HERE.
SHE WANTS ME TO DO THE PRESENTATION.
DOES SHE THINK, DOES SHE THINK THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA FUSS WITH YOU
I MEAN, TOMMA, DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
SO, UM, WE DON'T WANNA GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION LIKE IN ALL DETAILS BECAUSE I KNOW I DID PRESENT THIS TO YOU BEFORE WHEN WE IMPLEMENTED THE PROGRAM, BUT JUST AGAIN, QUICK, QUICKLY AGAIN FOR THE NEW FOLKS HERE JUST TO KNOW WHY WE HAVE THIS PROGRAM.
UH, SO BASICALLY WITH APARTMENT COMPLEX, IT'S A BIGGER ISSUE THAN SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING UNIT.
WHEN WE HAVE AN ISSUE, SOMETIMES WITH, UH, CHILLER FOR EXAMPLE, IT DOESN'T AFFECT ONLY ONE FAMILY.
IT MIGHT AFFECT THE WHOLE BUILDING AND THE BUILDING MIGHT HAVE A LOT OF TENANTS IN IT.
SO TECHNICALLY WITH APARTMENTS IT'S A BIGGER PROBLEM.
IT'S MORE COMPLEX AND THAT'S WHY THE FOCUS WAS ON APARTMENTS.
ANY APARTMENT THAT HAS FIVE UNITS PLUS IS CONSIDERED AN APARTMENT.
AND THAT'S BASED ON THE INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTIAL CODE AND INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE.
SO WE KEPT EVERYTHING ALIGNED.
UM, SO AGAIN, THIS PROGRAM ONLY APPLIES TO FIVE PLUS UNITS.
SO, UH, A DUPLEX, A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING UNIT, A QUAD DOESN'T APPLY.
SO JUST AGAIN, FYI, AGAIN, THE REASON FOR IT IS WE HAD A COUPLE OF REALLY MAJOR ISSUES IN SUMMER 2022, UH, FOR APARTMENTS.
AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT DROVE THE WHOLE PROGRAM AND CANCEL, ASKED US TO JUMP IN, IMMEDIATELY, REVIEW IT, COME UP WITH A PLAN REALLY QUICKLY.
UH, IT WAS BASICALLY ACCOMPLISHED WITHIN SIX MONTHS, THE WHOLE THING.
UH, MEETING WITH STAKEHOLDERS, GOING THROUGH DISCUSSIONS, A LOT OF MEETINGS.
SO, DOES THIS WORK? NO, IT'S, IT'S STUCK.
ALRIGHT, SO, SO WE DID HAVE A STAKEHOLDER GROUP.
UH, AT THE TIME WHEN WE WERE REQUESTED TO CREATE ONE AND TO MAKE IT BALANCED, UH, WE KIND OF SPLIT IT.
50 50, 50% OF THE, UM, STAKEHOLDER GROUP WAS RENTAL OR, OR RENTER, UH, ADVOCATES.
AND THE OTHER HALF IS, UH, APARTMENT OWNERS OR, UH, ORGANIZATIONS THAT ACTUALLY ARE ON THE REAL ESTATE SIDE.
SO AGAIN, WE WANTED TO HAVE A BALANCED TEAM AND THEY REALLY DID, DID GOOD JOB.
I MEAN, WE HAD REALLY A LOT OF MEETINGS, UM, DIFFICULT CONVERSATION, UM, A LOT OF NEGOTIATION IF YOU WILL.
BUT AT THE END, WE, WE CAME UP WITH REALLY GOOD PROGRAM.
SO THE MAJOR TOPICS THAT WE REVIEWED ARE OBVIOUSLY THE CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCESS.
SO WE HAD TO EXPLAIN TO THEM HOW DOES CODE WORK TODAY? SO THEY UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS.
WE HAD TO GO THROUGH TERMINOLOGIES.
THEY NEED TO KNOW WHAT, WHEN WE SAY NOTICE OF, UH, VIOLATION, WHAT THAT MEANS IF WE SAY CITATION, WHAT THAT MEANS.
THEY HAD TO UNDERSTAND THE TERMINOLOGY BEFORE WE EVEN STARTED DISCUSS DISCUSSING ANYTHING ABOUT APARTMENTS.
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AGAIN, WE WENT THROUGH AND WE EVEN BROUGHT OUR CHIEFS THE MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL, AND PLUMBING CHIEFS TO TALK ABOUT THEIR SIDE A LITTLE BIT AND TO TALK ABOUT THE ANNUAL PERMITS THAT EVERY APARTMENT IS REQUIRED TO HAVE AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN AND HOW MUCH WORK THEY CAN DO WITHOUT PULLING SPECIFIC PERMITS.SO AGAIN, WE, WE TRIED TO GIVE THEM A LOT OF INFORMATION TO UNDERSTAND THE CURRENT PROCESS AT THAT TIME.
AND THEN WE WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT DATA 18 MONTHS OF DATA TO AGAIN, GIVE THEM SOME INFORMATION, SOME HISTORIC INFORMATION SO THEY CAN AT LEAST START WITH THAT.
SO AGAIN, THE GOAL IS OBVIOUSLY TO PROVIDE INCENTIVE TO GOOD ACTORS.
I WANT TO CALL THEM GOOD ACTORS.
SO ANY GOOD LANDLORD WHO IS REALLY DOING THE RIGHT THING, WE WANT THEM TO BE HAPPY AND WE WANT THEM TO CONTINUE.
WE WANT GIVE THEM INCENTIVE TO CONTINUE DOING THE RIGHT THING.
WE WANNA PENALIZE BAD ACTORS BASICALLY BY NUMBER ONE, DOING ADDITIONAL INSPECTIONS, MONITORING THEM TO MAKE SURE THEY GET EVERYTHING UP TO PAR.
UH, THEY'RE GONNA BE HIT WITH SOME PENALTIES AS WELL.
SO AGAIN, WE DON'T WANNA, WE CHANGE ANY OF THE GOOD ACTORS' PROCESSES AND WE DON'T WANNA PUT ANY BURDEN ON THEM.
SO THAT'S WHY THAT WAS THE GOAL.
THE MAIN GOAL HERE IS TO BRING POTENTIALLY THE BAD ACTORS UP TO THE LEVEL OF GOOD ACTORS AND THEN EVERYBODY'S GOOD.
SO AGAIN, I KIND OF MENTIONED THIS A LITTLE BIT.
SO THIS APPLIES ONLY TO APARTMENTS, FIVE UNITS OR MORE.
UM, AGAIN, JUST TO GET IN LINE WITH THAT INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE, UM, AND TO GET IN LINE WITH THE UDC UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE AS WELL.
SAYS THE SAME THING I MENTIONED BAD ACTOR AGAIN.
SO ONE OF THE, THE HARDEST THINGS WAS WHAT IS THE DEFINITION OF BAD ACTOR? LIKE, WHO WILL BE IN THIS PROGRAM AND WHEN ARE THEY GONNA BE IN THE PROGRAM? BECAUSE REMEMBER, WE DON'T WANNA PULL IN GOOD ACTORS, WE DON'T WANNA PULL GOOD LANDLORDS OR OWNERS INTO A PROGRAM THAT THEY SHOULDN'T BE IN.
WE DON'T WANNA PUT THAT BURDEN ON THEM.
SO AGAIN, UM, THIS WAS A, A LOT OF DISCUSSION.
BUT THE END RESULT WAS ANY APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT RECEIVES THREE, UH, CITATIONS BASICALLY WITHIN SIX MONTHS.
SO IF I GET CITATION TODAY, THAT COUNTS AS ONE.
IF I GET TWO MORE WITHIN SIX MONTHS FROM TODAY, THEN NOW I'M IN THE PROGRAM.
BUT WHAT IF I GET ONE TODAY AND THEN SEVEN MONTHS FROM TODAY I GET ANOTHER ONE.
'CAUSE AGAIN, I'M MOVING AS A ROLLING SIX MONTH.
SO WITHIN SIX MONTHS, I HAVE TO RECEIVE THREE CITATIONS OR MORE TO BE IN THIS PROGRAM.
AGAIN, THE REASON FOR THAT IS WE UNDERSTAND MECHANICAL COMPONENTS, BREAK APPLIANCES, BREAK, THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND SOMETIMES YOU CAN'T FIX IT QUICKLY, UH, RESOURCES, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
SO IT CAN BE ZERO, IT CAN BE LIKE THE MINUTE YOU GET THE FIRST CITATION, YOU'RE IN THE PROGRAM.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THIS THREE, AGAIN, IT'S A MAGIC NUMBER.
NO, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE LANDED.
UM, SO AGAIN, UM, THAT, THAT IS THE KEY, HOW TO GET INTO THE PROGRAM.
ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS WAS TOO, IS THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE HAS OVER A HUNDRED DIFFERENT CODE SECTIONS.
I THINK IT'S LIKE 133 OR 135 SECTIONS.
AND THE DISCUSSION WAS, DO WE WANT ALL THE CODE IN HERE? SO IF YOU GET ANY THREE CITATIONS RELATED TO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE, DOES THAT COUNT? AND AGAIN, WE HAD TO GO THROUGH THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE SECTION BY SECTION, LINE BY LINE.
DANNY ACTUALLY DID GOOD JOB WITH THAT AND KEPT TRACK OF IT.
AND, UH, THE WHOLE STAKEHOLDER DECIDED ON EACH ITEM, SHOULD IT BE IN THIS PROGRAM? SHOULD IT COUNT, I GUESS, OR NOT? SO I, I'LL JUST THROW A FEW THINGS, LIKE TALL GRASS.
AGAIN, IF I LIVE IN AN APARTMENT COMPLEX AND THE GRASS IS TALL, THAT IS A VIOLATION, BUT THAT'S NOT A MAJOR LIFE SAFETY VIOLATION THAT I CAN'T STILL LIVE SAFELY IN MY APARTMENT.
MAINLY THE FOCUS WAS ON STRUCTURED COMPONENTS, MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING ISSUES, INTERIOR SURFACES, WALLS, YOU KNOW, FLOORS, THINGS LIKE THAT MEANS OF EGRESS, THAT'S A BIG ONE.
STAIRS, DOORS TO GET OUT OF YOUR APARTMENT, UH, SHOULD FIRE HAPPEN OR ANY EMERGENCY HAPPENS, FIRE SAFETY OBVIOUSLY IS PART OF IT.
SO THO THOSE ARE THE MAIN ONES.
SO TECHNICALLY OUT OF THOSE A HUNDRED WHATEVER SECTIONS, I THINK WE ENDED UP WITH 60, 66 MAYBE, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IT'S ALMOST LIKE HALF, I WANNA SAY, OR MAYBE MAYBE TWO THIRDS, I'M NOT SURE.
BUT AGAIN, THE FOCUS IS ON LIFE SAFETY ITEMS, STRUCTURE, MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL, AND PLUMBING.
SO BASICALLY, ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT AS WELL IS TO MAKE SURE WE GIVE THEM NOTICE SO THEY, IN OUR CURRENT PROCESS, SOMETIMES WHEN
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YOU HAVE, IF WE ISSUE A NOTICE AND THEN LATER ON YOU HAVE THE SAME VIOLATION, WE ARE NOT REQUIRED TO GIVE YOU ANOTHER NOTICE.WE CAN IMMEDIATELY GIVE YOU CITATION.
THIS PROGRAM ACTUALLY REQUIRES US TO GIVE 10 DAY NOTICE EVERY SINGLE TIME, EVEN IF IT'S THE SAME ISSUE, I HAVE TO GIVE THEM 10 DAY NOTICE TO REPAIR IT.
AGAIN, A LOT OF THAT DISCUSSION HAPPENED BECAUSE LANDLORDS AND OWNERS, THEY WERE SAYING, A LOT OF TIMES TENANTS DO NOT REACH OUT TO THEM.
THEY IMMEDIATELY CALL 3 1 1 AND SAY, HEY, MY AC IS NOT WORKING.
WELL, YOU NEVER EVEN TOLD US ABOUT IT, SO GIVE US TIME TO FIX IT.
UH, THAT'S WHY WE ALL AGREED ON THE 10 DAYS, BECAUSE WE SAID IF, IF THE LANDLORD OR THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY IS GOOD, 10 DAYS IS ENOUGH TO, IF THEY FIX IT A HUNDRED PERCENT, OR SOMETIMES IF THEY'RE MISSING PARTS, THEY CAN'T TELL US, HEY, I ORDERED THIS, THIS IS WHAT I'M DOING, THIS IS HOW I'M DOING IT.
AND, AND POTENTIALLY WE CAN SEE IF THEY'RE GOOD OR NOT.
UH, SO AGAIN, EVERY TIME WE HAVE A VIOLATION, WE CAN GIVE THEM 10 DAY NOTICE, UH, TO ALLOW THEM TO FIX IT.
IF THEY DON'T FIX IT, OBVIOUSLY CITATIONS.
AND WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND THEN WE COUNT THOSE CITATIONS.
IF THEY'RE ONE OF THOSE, UH, LIFE SAFETY ISSUES, THEY COUNT AS A POINT.
THE MINUTE THEY HAVE THREE POINTS IN SIX MONTHS, THEY ARE IN THE PROGRAM.
SO AGAIN, WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY'RE IN THE PROGRAM? THAT'S THE KEY NOW.
SO NOW WE KNOW HOW YOU GET IN THE PROGRAM, BUT WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU'RE IN THE PROGRAM? SO IF YOU'RE IN THE PROGRAM, BASICALLY, NOW YOU ALLOWED US TO DO PROACTIVE INSPECTIONS, AND THAT'S, AGAIN, I SHOULD HAVE PROBABLY SAID THAT AT AT THE BEGINNING.
THE BIGGEST THING WE WANTED IS PROACTIVE INSPECTIONS.
BUT AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO GO INSPECT EVERY APARTMENT IN TOWN.
I DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES FOR IT ANYWAYS, BUT WE WANNA INSPECT THE ONES THAT WE NEED TO INSPECT.
WE WANNA MONITOR THOSE AND STAY FOCUSED ON THOSE LOCATIONS.
SO AGAIN, THE MINUTE YOU'RE IN THE PROGRAM, YOU ARE GIVING US PERMISSION TO DO, UH, PROACTIVE INSPECTIONS.
WE ARE GONNA DO FIVE, MINIMUM 5% OF YOUR UNITS EVERY MONTH.
AND AGAIN, YOU'RE GONNA BE IN THIS PROGRAM MINIMUM SIX MONTHS.
SO THE CONCEPT IS IN SIX MONTHS, WE'RE GONNA DO 30% PROACTIVE INSPECTIONS, AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE THE SAME UNITS.
SO THIS MONTH I INSPECT THESE UNITS.
NEXT MONTH I'M INSPECTING 5% DIFFERENT UNITS AND SO FORTH.
SO IN SIX MONTHS, I'M GONNA HIT 30% OF THE UNITS OF THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX, WHICH IS GOOD AMOUNT.
SO WE CAN SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.
IF WE SEE MAJOR VIOLATIONS EVERY TIME WE INSPECT AGAIN, WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAYBE POTENTIALLY GO AND DO FULL INSPECTION ON EVERYTHING.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS OPENING THE DOOR FOR US TO DO THE PROACTIVE INSPECTIONS, WHICH AGAIN, WE DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE, UNLESS WE GET A WARRANT, WE NEED THE PROBABLE CAUSE AND ALL THAT.
SO THIS IS ALLOWING US TO, TO DO THAT.
WITH THAT SAID, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE GONNA GET EXTENDED SIX MONTHS.
IT'S ONLY YOU'RE GONNA DO, WE, WE, WE WILL GET THERE IN A SECOND.
OKAY, SO THAT'S THE GRADUATION, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO AGAIN, WE TALKED ABOUT HOW TO GET IN.
WE TALKED ABOUT IF YOU'RE IN, WHAT GONNA HAPPEN IS, AGAIN, THE 5% INSPECTIONS EVERY MONTH, PROACTIVE INSPECTIONS, AND YOU'RE GONNA PAY A FEE A HUNDRED DOLLARS PER UNIT PER YEAR, BASICALLY TO PAY FOR THE CODE OFFICERS THAT WE HIRED.
SO IT, IT WAS BUILT AS A COST RECOVERY PROGRAM.
SO WE HIRED A SUPERVISOR AND FOUR CODE OFFICERS, AND THE COST IS X.
WE ESTIMATED WE'RE GONNA END UP WITH ABOUT 15, UH, APARTMENTS IN A YEAR.
WE DID THE MATH AND WE SAID, OKAY, IF YOU PAY A HUNDRED, THEN THAT WILL COVER THE COST.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU ARE IN IT.
SO NOW WHAT HAPPENS? HOW CAN YOU GET OUT? YOU DON'T WANNA BE IN THIS PROGRAM FOR LIFE, RIGHT? WHAT IF I MESSED UP AND NOW I'M FIXING EVERYTHING AND I WANT TO GET OUT? SO THEY DON'T GET IT.
IF THEY DON'T GET IT, THEY STAY IN IT FOREVER.
SO, BUT THEN WE HAD TO PUT, UH, A PLAN ON, IF I BEHAVE, HOW DO I GET OUT, RIGHT? SO MINIMUM YOU'RE GONNA BE IN IT FOR SIX MONTHS AGAIN.
SO WE KNOW WE COVER THE ABOUT 30% INSPECTIONS OF THE APARTMENTS BEFORE WE SAY YOU ARE OUT TO GET OUT, YOU NEED TO BE IN THE PROGRAM, MINIMUM SIX MONTH.
YOU NEED TO HAVE LESS THAN THREE CITATIONS IN THOSE SIX MONTH.
SO KIND OF LIKE THE WAY YOU GET IN, THE WAY YOU GET OUT, YOU HAVE LESS THAN THREE THEN POTENTIALLY MIGHT BE OUT ANY VIOLATIONS THAT YOU HAD NEEDED TO BE FIXED BY THAT DATE.
SO LET'S SAY BEST CASE SCENARIO I GET IN TODAY, SIX MONTHS FROM TODAY, I HAVE, LET'S SAY TWO CITATIONS FOR WHATEVER.
BUT ON THAT DAY, WE LOOK BACK, EVERYTHING IS FIXED.
AS OF THAT DAY, THERE IS NO VIOLATIONS AT ALL, AND YOU RECEIVED LESS THAN THREE CITATIONS, THEN YOU CAN GRADUATE AND GET OUT OF THE PROGRAM.
OKAY, WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU HAVE REPEAT OFFENDERS.
SO I GET IN TODAY, SIX MONTHS LATER I'M OUT, AND THEN NEXT MONTH I RACK UP THREE POINTS, AND NOW I'M BACK IN THE PROGRAM.
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IS WE DOUBLE THAT TIME.SO ORIGINALLY I SAID MINIMUM YOU'RE GONNA BE IN THE PROGRAM SIX MONTHS.
NOW YOU'RE GONNA BE MINIMUM FOR A YEAR IF YOU GET IN THE PROGRAM WITHIN FOUR YEARS.
SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE PROBATIONARY PERIOD, FOUR YEARS.
IF YOU GET BACK IN, YOU STAY IN FOR MINIMUM ONE YEAR.
AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS I'M INSPECTING 5% FOR A YEAR.
NOW I'M INSPECTING 60% OF YOUR UNITS.
SO AGAIN, IT JUST, THEY DON'T WANT US THERE.
I MEAN, THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE, RIGHT? SO THE MORE WE ARE THERE, THE MORE POTENTIALLY WE'RE GONNA SEE THINGS AND WE'RE GONNA ASK THEM TO FIX IT.
THEY, THEY DON'T WANT US THERE.
SO THIS IS, AGAIN, A WAY TO BE THERE SLASH THE FEE THAT'S THE PENALTY.
WHEN YOU'RE SAYING VIOLATIONS, UM, OR CITATIONS, UM, YOU'RE SAYING THAT THEY GET ONE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TO GET THREE FOR SIX MONTHS.
SO WHAT IF THERE ARE MULTIPLE VIOLATIONS ON A SINGLE VISIT? DOES THAT COUNT AS MULTIPLE CITATIONS OR IS IT ONE VISIT? EVERY, EVERY VIOLATION IS ITS OWN.
SO IF THEY DO HAVE THREE VIOLATIONS OR 10 VIOLATIONS, THAT SAME VISIT, AND THOSE 10 VIOLATIONS FALL WITHIN THE STRUCTURE AND MECHANICAL ELECTRICAL LIFE SAFETY ISSUES.
AND THEY DO RECEIVE OBVIOUSLY THE 10 DAY NOTICE, THEN WE GO DAY 11 OR 12 DEPENDING ON WEEKENDS.
BUT WHEN WE GO AGAIN, IF THEY STILL HAVE THOSE VIOLATIONS, WE ISSUE CITATIONS, THEN THEY COUNT.
SO YES, THEY CAN RACK UP THREE POINTS, I GUESS IF YOU WANNA CALL THEM THAT.
UH, IN ONE DAY OR IN TWO DAYS OR IN A MONTH? DEPENDS, BUT EVERY, EVERY VIOLATION COUNTS AS IT'S OWN.
ON THAT LAST BOLT, DO WHAT? THE LAST BOLT? I JUST NEED TO FIX THE GRAM.
DOESN'T
IF BACK END THE PROGRAM I GUESS, OR YEAH, WE'LL FIX IT.
I'M SAYING, YOU KNOW, NOBODY GONNA CATCH IT.
UM, SO AGAIN, I I KIND OF MENTIONED THIS AGAIN, A HUNDRED DOLLARS PER UNIT PER YEAR IS BASICALLY THE IMPACT.
AND THAT'S KIND OF HOW THE MATH ENDED UP.
AS I SAID, WE, WE TALKED ABOUT WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE LAST 18 MONTHS OF DATA PRIOR TO HAVING THIS ORDINANCE, UH, WE ESTIMATED 15 COMPLEXES TO BE IN IT.
UH, THE AVERAGE COMPLEX SIZE IS ABOUT 200 UNITS.
SOME ARE SMALL, SOME ARE BIG, BUT THE AVERAGE IS 200.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE SAID THE 200 TIMES 15 COMPLEX TIMES A HUNDRED BUCKS, THAT'S 300,000.
SO THAT'S HOW WE CALCULATED THAT AND DECIDED THIS IS THE TEAM WE'RE GONNA GET.
AND THIS IS ALL AN ORDINANCE, BUT IT IS KIND OF A PILOT OR ORDINANCE.
UH, WE ARE REQUIRED TO GO BACK TO CANCEL, UM, A NINE MONTHS FROM THE TIME IT STARTED TO BRIEF THEM ON WHERE WE STAND AND WHAT'S HAPPENING.
WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT IT AT THAT TIME AND DECIDE DO WE NEED MORE RESOURCES OR DO WE NEED LESS? I MEAN, IF, IF WE DON'T HAVE THE 15, THEN OBVIOUSLY I NEED LESS RESOURCES.
I DON'T NEED FOUR CODE OFFICERS.
BUT IF WE HAVE MORE, THEN I NEED MORE.
AND WE'RE GONNA SHOW YOU THE DATA IN A SECOND.
SO MAYBE IT'S MORE, I NEED MORE.
THIS PROGRAM IS NOT A REVENUE GENERATING PROGRAM, THEREFORE, I, I WOULD RECOMMEND YOU CHANGE THE WORD ESTIMATED ANNUAL REVENUE TO ESTIMATED ANNUAL FEES, AND THAT WAY NOBODY WOULD MISUNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS NOT A REVENUE GENERATOR.
I'M GLAD I'M ALMOST AT THE END.
YOU SEE WHY WE HAVE THE BEST, THE BEST BOARD HERE? NO, THIS IS AWESOME.
ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROGRAM? UM, JUST TRANSPARENCY.
ARE YOU GONNA HAVE THIS UP ON THE WEBSITE SOMEHOW TO RECORD? THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE GONNA SHOW YOU NOW, BUT JUST, I WANNA MAKE SURE YOU DON'T HAVE QUESTIONS BEFORE WE SHOW YOU WHAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR.
ANYBODY CAN ACCESS THIS ANY CITIZEN.
EVERY INSPECTION WE DO IS PHYSICALLY THERE.
EVERY APARTMENT THAT IS IN THE PROGRAM IS LISTED THERE.
SO JENNY GONNA GO OVER IT RIGHT NOW.
SO ALL THE NUMBERS WILL BE IN THE NEXT SLIDES WHERE YOU SHOW US ALL THE FINANCIAL STUFF AND ALL THAT, RIGHT? NO, NOT, NOT, NOT NECESSARILY THE FINANCIAL STUFF.
IT'S JUST ALL THE, THE COST OF IT ALL THE, ALL THE INSPECTIONS WE DID AND UH RIGHT.
ANY APARTMENTS THAT THEY ARE IN THE PROGRAM AND WHERE WE'RE AT.
LET JENNY GO THROUGH IT AND THEN WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR MORE QUESTIONS.
MAYBE WHAT YOU SEE WILL ANSWER A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
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YOU'RE SAVING ALL YOUR QUESTIONS FOR ME? YES, WE DO HAVE ON OUR WEBSITE AND WE JUST KIND OF WANTED TO WALK THROUGH BECAUSE THIS IS LATE LIVE DATA.UM, OUR, IT GUYS HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB OF HELPING CREATE A DASHBOARD THAT IS UPDATED ON THE MONTHLY, UH, ON OUR, ON OUR CITY DSD WEBSITE, UM, IS A PROACTIVE, UM, APARTMENT INSPECTION LINK.
ONCE YOU CLICK INTO THE LINK, THIS, THIS PAGE COMES UP AND WHAT WE'RE GONNA TAG INTO RIGHT NOW IS THE ACTIVITY REPORT DASHBOARD.
YEAH, I WAS THINKING ABOUT IT.
SO WHAT THIS HAS ON IT, UM, CURRENTLY ARE TOTAL NUMBER OF INSPECTIONS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE MULTI-FAMILY, UM, APARTMENT WHEN IT COMES TO MULTI-FAMILY, UH, FAMILY APARTMENTS, UM, WHETHER THEY'RE, IT'S BROKEN DOWN IN GEN IN GENERAL, IF THEY'RE INITIALLY REACTIVE CALLS, IF THEY'RE PROACTIVE CALLS, AS WELL AS THE RE-INSPECTIONS.
AND THEN WE AT THE, THE NEXT, UM, THE NEXT ROW DOWN, WE HAVE TOTAL NUMBER OF, WE WE'RE BREAKING IT DOWN.
WE'RE TRYING TO CONTROL THAT, NOT CONTROL, BUT DOCUMENT THAT DATA AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
THE TI UM, THE NUMBER OF COMPLEXES, APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT ARE UNIQUE OUT OF THESE, UH, TOTAL INSPECTIONS, THE NUMBER OF VIOLATIONS ISSUED, THE NUMBER OF ACTUAL, AND ALSO GOING BACK THE NUMBER OF CITATIONS VERSUS NOTICES.
WE ALWAYS DO START WITH THE NOTICE AND SOME PEOPLE WILL USE THAT INTERCHANGEABLY.
UH, YOU'RE SWAPPED OUT, LET'S SEE, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE WEBSITE? DID WE LOSE THE WEBSITE? UH OH, WE LOST THE WEBSITE.
WE'LL GET IT BACK UP REAL SHORTLY.
BUT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, UH, NOTICES ISSUED AND CITATIONS ISSUED.
A CITATION IS WHAT WE SAY WE'RE GIVING TO SOMEBODY TO APPEAR IN COURT, WHETHER IT'S A CIVIL, A CIVIL CITATION OR A CLASS C HOLD UP AGAIN.
OKAY, SO WE HAVE THOSE BROKEN OUT AS WELL.
AND THEN THE VERY LAST NUMBER, NUMBER 17, IS THE LIVE DATA OF REGISTERED PROPERTIES THAT HAVE FALLEN INTO THE PROGRAM THAT HAVE RECEIVED WHAT WE CALL THAT THREE STRIKES, UH, OF THE, THE THREE CITATIONS WITHIN THAT SIX MONTH PERIOD IN REGISTER AMOUNT.
AND IF YOU CAN CLICK ON THAT 17, THIS IS THE ACTUAL LIVE LIST OF THE NUMBER OF THE COMPLEXES.
UM, IT'S GOT THEIR ADDRESS, THE NAME OF THE COMPLEX, THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT ARE, UM, PART OF THEIR COMPLEX.
WE'VE GOT THE CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT, AND THEN EVEN, UM, THE DATE THAT THEY DID ENTER INTO THE PROGRAM.
SO THIS IS, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, LIVE DATA.
WE'LL BE UPDATING THIS AGAIN AT THE BEGINNING OF, UH, OF THE MONTH.
UM, BUT IT IS CURRENT AS OF NOW.
WITH THIS REPORT HERE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF, I SEE THE DISTRICTS ON HERE.
MM-HMM,
UM, I BELIEVE WE'VE BEEN MEETING ON THE MONTHLY, IF NOT QUARTERLY, WITH DIFFERENT COUNCIL MEMBERS TO LET THEM KNOW.
THEY'VE BEEN VERY, VERY INTERESTED ON THIS PROGRAM.
UM, IT IS, IT IS A VERY HIGH PRIORITY FOR ALL OF US, WHICH IS, IT WASN'T ME TO TO PUT IT ON HIM TO PRESENT, BUT THIS IS OUR, OUR DIRECTORS ARE CHECK, ARE MONITORING THIS PROGRAM VERY CAREFULLY.
WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THIS PROGRAM.
THE IMPACT IT IS HAVING, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT IS NOT RELEGATED TO ONE COUNCIL DISTRICT.
IT IS BOUNCING ALL OVER THE PLACE.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE APARTMENTS, WE HAVE NEW APARTMENTS, WE HAVE OLDER APARTMENTS.
IT'S NOT RELEGATED TO NECESSARILY THE OLDEST COMPLEXES OUT THERE.
IT IS TRULY, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THESE COMPLEXES DOING TO, TO PROPERLY MAINTAIN THEIR, THEIR PROPERTIES.
AND THAT IS IMPACTFUL CITYWIDE, UM, IS WHAT THIS DEFINITELY IS, IS SHOWING US IN A VERY, VERY QUICK, UM, NUGGET OF INFORMATION.
SO WHAT'S, WHAT'S BEEN THEIR RESPONSE SO FAR? RESPONSE SO FAR HAS BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE.
UM, IT'S, IT IS CONTINUING TO MONITOR, IT'S CONTINUING TO LOOK AT IT TO CONTINUE TO SEE WHAT WE NEED TO HELP GROW THE PROGRAM.
UM, WE'RE WORKING RIGHT NOW TO GET A, TO GET A, A, UH, A TEMPORARY EMPLOYEE OF A MANAGEMENT ANALYST POSITION, UH, TO COME IN AND HELP US CONTINUE TO ACCRUE THIS INFORMATION AND TO CONTINUE ANALYZE IT AND, AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE REVIEWING IT AND MOVING FORWARD WITH THE RIGHT INFORMATION GATHERED.
IT IS DEFINITELY CONTINUING TO REMAIN A HIGH FOCUS, NOT ONLY FOR OUR DEPARTMENT, BUT FOR THE CITY OVERALL.
I GUESS I WANNA KNOW IS WHAT'S BEEN CITY COUNCIL'S RESPONSE TO THEIR DISTRICTS? BECAUSE SOME DISTRICTS HAVE MORE PROBLEMS THAN OTHERS.
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I COULDN'T, I COULDN'T SPEAK TO SPECIFICALLY, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HAS JUST BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE.I MEAN, ALONE, IT IS NOT A, A EASY THING OR SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS ON THE REGULAR, THAT WE GET A WHOLE PROGRAM, THAT WE GET A WHOLE PROGRAM WITH STAFF.
AND FOR US TO HAVE A STAFF OF FIVE MEMBERS, INCLUDING SUPERVISION, INCLUDING THIS NEXT POSITION OF A TEMPORARY, UM, MANAGEMENT ANALYST POSITION, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT IS, THAT IS THE SUPPORT WE FEEL THAT DEFINITELY IS BEING PROVIDED TO THE PROGRAM, TO, TO PUT THE PEOPLE, TO PUT THE RIGHT PEOPLE, TO PUT THE RIGHT NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN TO CONTINUE TO HELP THIS PROGRAM GROW IF IT NEEDS TO CONTINUE TO GROW.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.
I THINK IT, I THINK IT DOES NEED TO CONTINUE TO GROW BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, BAD APARTMENT BUILDINGS THAT PEOPLE ARE RENTING AND THE, THE MANAGEMENT DOESN'T SEEM TO, TO, YOU KNOW, CARE AT ALL ABOUT HOW PEOPLE LIVE.
AND, UH, SO I THINK THIS NEEDS TO GROW.
I, I WOULD AGREE, BUT I'M INTERESTED TO KNOW WHAT CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DO ABOUT THESE APARTMENTS IN THEIR DISTRICTS.
THAT'S WHERE WE COME IN WITH THIS PROGRAM.
I MEAN, THIS PROGRAM IS DOING WHAT IT, WHAT WHAT IT WAS DESIGNED TO DO RIGHT NOW.
IT DOESN'T, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT SHUTTING THESE FOLKS DOWN.
WE ARE DEFINITELY HIGHLIGHTING THEM.
WE'RE DEFINITELY VISITING 'EM ON THE PROACTIVE BASIS WITH THE REGULAR MONTHLY INSPECTIONS.
WE'RE COMPLETELY TRANSPARENT ON THOSE PROACTIVE INSPECTIONS AS WELL.
MY TEAM, PART OF THE ORDINANCE SAYS WE DO NOTIFY THEM WHEN WE'RE COMING.
UH, WE LET THEM KNOW WE'RE COMING IN A WEEK'S TIME WHEN WE VISIT THE PROPERTY.
SO IT, IT, IT'S NOT DESIGNED TO KEEP THEM INTO THE PROGRAM.
IT'S DESIGNED TO SET THEM UP FOR SUCCESS IF THEY'RE WILLING TO FOLLOW THAT, THAT PLAN AND, AND WILLING TO DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO, WHICH IS PROVIDE THEM MAINTENANCE AHEAD OF TIME RATHER THAN US POINTING IT OUT.
BECAUSE WHEN WE DO ISSUE THOSE NOTICES, WE'VE, WE'VE DONE AN EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF TRAINING FOR OUR, OUR FIELD STAFF, AND WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF OUR FIELD STAFF.
THERE ARE A HUNDRED SOME ODD OFFICERS THAT WORK THEIR REGULAR DISTRICTS, NEIGHBORHOODS, APARTMENTS, UH, COMMERCIAL AREAS ALONE, YOU KNOW, SO THEY'VE GOT MULTIPLE RESPONSIBILITIES GOING ON.
BUT WHEN THEY RECEIVE THESE COMPLAINTS, THEY'RE THAT FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE, THE REACTIVE COMPLAINTS THAT THEY'RE COMING ACROSS, AND WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT THEY, THEY'RE DETAILED IN THOSE NOTICES.
WE SHOWED YOU THE NOTICE THAT WE DEVELOPED AND ALL THE INFORMATION THAT'S ON THE NOTICE.
THE ONE THING THAT WE'VE TAKEN OUT IS THAT DISCRETION FOR THE EXTENSIONS PART OF THE ORDINANCE DOES REQUIRE THAT IF ANY EXTENSION IS REQUESTED, IT HAS TO COME UP THROUGH THE CHAIN OF COMMAND.
AND IT ACTUALLY GOES ALL THE WAY UP TO THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR, UM, TO MR. TOMAS.
HE REVIEWS AN EXTENSION REQUEST, THEY HAVE TO PUT IT IN WRITING.
THAT'S WHAT PART OF THE, THE NEW ORDINANCE OR THE NEW NOTICE ITSELF STATES.
SO THERE IS THAT RESPONSIBILITY THAT, THAT THESE MANAGERS, PROPERTY MANAGERS WHO ARE, YOU KNOW, ON THE PROPERTY, HAVE TO TAKE THAT RESPONSIBILITY AND ACCOUNTABILITY.
AND, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WANTING TO, TO WORK, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL DOING THAT CONSISTENTLY.
ONE OF THE PROPERTIES WE'RE WORKING ON, UM, THEY'RE WORKING ON REPAIRING THEIR STAIRS.
THE OWNERS ARE OUT OF, OF NEW JERSEY, WE'RE STILL MEETING.
WE, WE REQUIRE THEM TO GET A LOCAL CONTRACTOR, LOCAL ENGINEER, AND WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM WEEKLY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE, UM, DOING THIS CORRECTLY, DOING THIS LEGALLY DURING IT, UM, WITHIN THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE PERMITS.
CAN PUSHED IT TO THE SIDE FOR WAY TOO LONG.
NOW ON THIS HERE, THIS IS THE ONES THAT ARE IN THE PROGRAM NOW? YES.
THESE ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE FAILED.
THEY'VE RECEIVED THEIR NOTICES.
THEY'VE RECEIVED A MINIMUM OF THREE CITATIONS.
THE CITATIONS WERE UPHELD AND CONSIDERED LIABLE.
THEY RECEIVED A LETTER TO REGISTER WITH THE PROGRAM AT A MINIMUM OF SIX MONTHS.
THEY'VE DONE THEIR REGISTRATION PROCESS AND ARE NOW, YOU KNOW, THE DATES, UM, CERTAIN ARE WHEN THEY REGISTERED INTO THE PROGRAM.
SO IF YOU PUT A LIST TOGETHER OF THE ONES WHO, AS TEMA SAYS, GRADUATED, WOULD THERE BE A ALMOST THE SAME SIZE LIST OR IS IT LESS? NO.
SO THIS PROGRAM JUST STARTED IN APRIL.
WE JUST KICKED IT OFF IN APRIL.
NOBODY, SO THIS IS THE LIVE LIST.
NOBODY HAS ACTUALLY GRADUATED YET BECAUSE WE'VE JUST HIT THE SIX.
WE HAVEN'T EVEN HIT THE SIX MONTHS YET.
SO YOU HAVEN'T HAD YOUR FIRST CLASS? SO THE FIRST, YEAH, THE FIRST GRADUATING CLASS, I CAN TELL YOU, UM, THE FIRST ONE TO HAVE REGISTERED WAS MAY 30TH.
WE, UM, I THINK, I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT DATE IN DECEMBER, BUT THEY'RE VERY CLOSE TO COMING INTO GRADUATION STATUS.
THEY'VE RECEIVED NO OTHER POINTS THAT HAVE REQUIRED THEM TO CONTINUE ON.
I'M, I'M NOT SAYING THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOING TO AS A FOR CERTAIN, BUT IF THEY, UM, WHAT I BELIEVE HAS HAPPENED ON THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY, A NEW OWNER CAME IN, NEW OWNER TOOK OVER, NEW OWNER HAS INVESTED MONEY AND TIME AND EFFORT INTO THE PROPERTY TO, TO GET AHEAD OF THOSE ISSUES, UH, RATHER THAN WAITING AND BEING REACTIONARY, UM, ON OUR PROACTIVE INSPECTIONS.
SO THEY, THEY'VE STARTED TO DO AND PUT THAT EFFORT AND PUT THAT ACCOUNTABILITY.
UM, AND IF THEY CONTINUE THAT WITHIN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, THEY, THEY MAY BE THE FIRST TO GRADUATE.
UM, NOW THIS BEING A CITY COUNCIL
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DRIVEN PROGRAM, WHEN YOU SUBMIT IT TO THEM WITH WHAT THEY SEE HERE, ARE YOU EXPECTING THEM TO FULLY FUND AND IT'S NOT A PILOT PROGRAM NO MORE, OR IS IT GONNA BE OUR WE HOPE SO.WE, WE DO HOPE SO, BUT THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE COUNCIL, UM, ONCE WE DO OUR PRESENTATION, WHICH THE DIRECTORS MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION.
BUT THAT IS, AND IS THAT GONNA BE SOON? I DON'T KNOW THE DATE CERTAIN YOU DATES SOON, SIR.
SO THE, THE, THE ORDINANCE IS IN EFFECT AS OF APRIL 2ND, AND THE ORDINANCE ITSELF IS NOT A PILOT PROGRAM.
THE PORTION OF THIS AS A PILOT PROGRAM IS REALLY THE NUMBER OF CODE OFFICERS THAT WE NEED TO MAINTAIN THIS PROGRAM.
SO AGAIN, IT COULD EXPAND OR ATTRACT, DEPENDING ON THE AMOUNT OF CASES WE HAVE.
AND THAT'S WHEN YOU PRESENT IT FOR FULL FUNDING? OR IS IT GOING TO BE, WHEN DO YOU DO THAT IN FRONT OF THE CITY COUNCIL? WHEN, WHEN WE ADOPTED THIS ORDINANCE APRIL 2ND, UH, WE DID NOT GET ANY FUNDS AT THAT TIME, BUT WHEN WE WENT TO BUDGET IN SEPTEMBER, WE HAVE, IT'S ALREADY FUNDED FOR THIS, THIS FULL YEAR.
I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING WHAT, UM, PATTERNS YOU'RE SEEING IN TERMS OF VIOLATIONS, UM, ESPECIALLY IN DISTRICT ONE, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE REGULAR POWERPOINT? I CAN TELL YOU, UM, IT, IT'S ACROSS THE BOARD WE'RE WE HAVE STRUCTURAL ISSUES, WE HAVE INFESTATION, WE HAVE PLUMBING, MECHANICAL, AND IT'S KIND OF ALMOST ALSO SEASONAL.
UH, IN THE HEAT OF THE SUMMER.
THIS IS ONE OF THE WORST SUMMERS WE'VE HAD ON RECORD.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAD AC UNITS GOING DOWN, WHICH WOULD FALL INTO THE MECHANICAL ISSUES WE HAD, UM, WHAT LITTLE RAIN WE HAD, WATER LEAKS, YOU KNOW, ALSO FALL INTO IT.
SO IT, IT IS ACROSS THE BOARD.
THERE'S NOT ONE ITEM THAT'S ACTUALLY STANDING OUT.
I KNOW THE BIGGEST IMPACT FISCALLY IMPACTED ITEMS ARE THE STRUCTURAL, EXTERNAL STRUCTURAL.
THOSE ARE NOT CHEAP TO DO, BUT IF THEY'RE NOT MAINTAINED PROPERLY, THOSE ARE PRETTY TIME CONSUMING AND, AND ALSO THE MOST DANGEROUS.
SO WE ARE VERY CONCERNED WHEN WE COME ACROSS ANY OF THOSE THAT ARE STRUCTURALLY UNSOUND OR STRUCTURALLY DEFICIT OR THEY'VE JUST NOT BEEN MAINTAINED PROPERLY.
WHICH I'M TALKING ABOUT YOUR SECOND, FIRST AND SECOND FLOOR STAIRCASES.
ANOTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS REGARDING, UM, MUL OWNERS OF MULTIPLE PROPERTIES.
SO SOMETIMES PERHAPS, UH, PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE A, AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, BUT THEY HAVE, UM, A LANDLORD HISTORY OF MULTIPLE PROPERTIES.
I'M JUST GONNA SAY IT, THEY'RE KIND OF A SLUMLORD IN IN OTHER TERMS. UM, UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY INITIATIVES THAT WOULD ADDRESS THOSE, UM, PATTERNS? UM, THEY WOULD NOT FALL INTO THIS PROGRAM OR, UM, POP UP INTO THIS PROGRAM UNLESS IT'S A, IT'S A, UM, MULTI-UNIT OF THE FIVE OR MORE, WHICH IS BY ORDINANCE.
BUT, UH, THAT DOES NOT MEAN THEY WOULDN'T FALL INTO ONE OF MY OTHER PROGRAMS, WHICH I DO OVERSEE WITH POTENTIALLY THE DART UNIT.
WE HAVE BEEN KNOWN TO VISIT SOME OF THOSE, UM, SLUMLORDS, NO, UNFORTUNATELY NO OTHER WAY TO DESCRIBE THEM IN SOME SITUATIONS.
UM, IF WE DO COME ACROSS PROPERTIES LIKE THAT, WE DO CHECK TO SEE IF THEY HAVE MULTIPLE PROPERTIES AND WE WILL CHECK HISTORY ON THEIR OTHER PROPERTIES.
SO WHILE ONE JUST MAY POP UP AS THE BIGGEST CONCERN FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, FOR THE NEIGHBORS, FOR THE AREA, IF WE FIND OUT THAT THEY DO HAVE MULTIPLE PROPERTIES, WE CAN CERTAINLY UTILIZE THAT INFORMATION AS PROBABLE CAUSE TO START INVESTIGATING THE OTHER PROPERTIES AS WELL.
AND MAYBE, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY NOT AS BE IN A VOCAL NEIGHBORHOOD OR THE NEIGHBORS MAY NOT BE AS IMPACTED AS A MILE, BUT WE'VE CERTAINLY MULTIPLIED THOSE INSPECTIONS OUT IF THE SAME ISSUES ARE OCCURRING AT MULTIPLE PROPERTIES.
THIS IS LEGAL WITH ERIC BRENT, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP.
THE DART UNIT HAS HIT PROPERTIES WHERE WE HAVE A PROPERTY OWNER WHO HAS MULTIPLE, UM, LOCATIONS.
UM, AND WE KNOW, AND WE HAVE THE, THE CRITERIA TO, TO DO AN INSPECTION ON MORE THAN ONE OF THOSE PROPERTIES.
AND THIS BOARD HAS BEEN BROUGHT MULTIPLE PROPERTIES SUCH AS THAT.
I JUST MENTIONED ABOUT THE, THE WEBSITE ON THE WEBPAGE.
YOU, YOU'RE THROWING OUT SEVERAL TERMS THERE THAT MIGHT NOT BE WELL UNDERSTOOD.
I THINK WHEN YOU HOVER OVER WITH A MASK, MAYBE YOU COULD DO A LITTLE POP OUT WINDOW AND JUST EXPLAIN WHAT THE TERMS ARE.
SURE, THAT'D BE REALLY HELPFUL.
UM, THAT, THAT DASHBOARD IS BRAND NEW FOR US AND FOR OUR PROGRAM AND FOR OUR WEBSITE.
SO ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO KEEP ENHANCING IT, WE WILL DEFINITELY TAKE THAT BACK.
AND I MIGHT ALSO SUGGEST ADDING A LINK TO THE RELOCATION SERVICES.
RELOCATION, RELOCATION SERVICES.
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UH, HAVE YOU HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH, UH, COMPLEXES NOT COMPLYING WITH REGISTERING WITH THE CITY? WE HAVE A FEW, UM, I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT, UM, IT'S RIGHT AROUND, UH, MAYBE 40% I BELIEVE.WE HAVE, UM, WE DO GIVE THEM A TIME TO NOT ONLY REGISTER, BUT A TIME TO PAY.
UM, WE'VE HAD A FEW WHO ARE A LITTLE SLOW TO PAY.
UM, WE ARE, UM, FOLLOWING UP WITH THAT, WITH, UH, WITH COURT ACTION SO THAT THAT DOESN'T, THAT DOESN'T, THEIR LACK OF FOLLOW UP ON THAT IS NOT GONNA HAVE US GO AWAY FROM THE PROACTIVE INSPECTIONS.
IT'S ONLY GONNA PROLONG THEM IN THE REGISTRATION PROGRAM.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE BEING VERY VOCAL ABOUT TO SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES AND SOME OF THESE PROPERTY OWNERS.
UM, BUT WE DO HAVE COURT ACTION, UH, AVAILABLE, UM, TO CONTINUE TO ESCALATE THAT, THAT ISSUE.
AND LAST TIME WE WERE HERE, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT WERE, THAT WERE FLIPPING THAT, UH, YOU GET ONE OWNER IN AND THEY TRY TO DRIVE DOWN THE PROPERTY AS MUCH AS, AS THEY COULD TO MAXIMIZE PROFITS AND THEN SELL IT.
HOW DOES THAT FACTOR INTO THIS PROGRAM NOW, THOSE KIND OF OWNERS? SO IT DOES NOT, UH, IF A NEW OWNER COMES IN, JUST LIKE I MENTIONED ACTUALLY, WELL, ON THE LIST, UH, BEFORE THE, THE VERY FIRST PROPERTY THAT ACTUALLY WENT INTO THE PROGRAM, A NEW OWNER CAME IN, BUT THAT OWNER, WHETHER HE UTILIZED THAT TO MAYBE GET A, A CHEAPER PRICE ON THE, THE PURCHASE OF IT, WE DON'T KNOW.
WE DON'T GET INVOLVED IN THAT.
BUT OUR SOLE PRIORITY AND RESPONSIBILITY IS TO THE TENANTS, TO THE PROPERTY ITSELF, AND TO ENSURING IS THE PROPER FUNDING GONNA BE PUT INTO IT? NOT, YOU KNOW, STAIRCASES, PAINTING A STAIRCASE IS GREAT, BUT NOT IF YOU'RE PAINTING OVER REST AND OXIDATION AND ALL THE PROBLEMS THAT, YOU KNOW, STILL HAVE NOT BEEN ADDRESSED.
SO WE, WE DEFINITELY MEET WITH THOSE NEW PROPERTIES.
WE NEVER HOLD UP A SALE IF THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT IS SOMETHING WITHIN ANYBODY'S RIGHT TO SELL THE PROPERTY, BUT IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T GIVE THEM A, THAT'S NOT A DEFENSE TO NOT BEING PART OF THE PROGRAM.
THEY, THEY INHERIT THE, THEY INHERIT THE REGISTRATION, THEY INHERIT THE, THE TIME LEFT ON IF, WHETHER IT'S A BRAND NEW RE TO THE, TO THE PROGRAM OR NOT, OR WHETHER THEY'RE COMING OUT ON THE END OF THE PROGRAM.
UM, THEY DO CARRY THAT SAME REGISTRATION.
SO WE GET, WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THE NEW OWNERS AND IT LET THEM UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'VE STEPPED INTO AND WHAT THEIR RESPONSIBILITY IS STILL GONNA BE TO THE PROPERTY, TO THE RESIDENTS, AND TO HOW TO GET OUT OF THE PROGRAM.
SO TYPICALLY, UM, THAT IS STILL OCCURRING IN SOME INSTANCES, BUT WE'RE HOPING THAT, YOU KNOW, SAN ANTONIO'S A VERY HOT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A, HOUSING IS A, IS A HOT FUNDING SITE, SO WE DON'T FEEL THAT ANYBODY'S NOT GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, ANY PROPERTY'S JUST GONNA BE WALKED AWAY FROM, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY WILL COME AROUND TO, TO PICK THAT PROPERTY UP AND TO HOPEFULLY PUT THE, PUT THE FUNDING INTO IT TO, TO MAKE SURE IT IS, IT'S SAFE FOR THE RESIDENTS.
THAT THAT'S OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.
IF THEY'RE REGISTERED THROUGH THE PROGRAM AND THEN THEY START MAKING THESE, UM, REPAIRS TO GET THEM UP TO CODE.
ARE THEY ALLOWED TO RAISE THE RENT FOR THE TENANT? NO, THEY ARE, IF YOU GIVE THE RIGHT TO RAISE THE YES, MA'AM.
I THINK THIS IS A, A GREAT PROGRAM.
THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING UP WITH IT.
ALL RIGHT, WE'LL CONTINUE MOVING ON.
JUMPING BACK INTO OUR UPDATES FOR BSB.
THIS IS GONNA GO PRETTY QUICK.
WE DO, JUDY AND OUR TEAM AT BSB DOES A GREAT JOB OF TRACKING, AND OUR BOARD MEMBERS DO A GREAT JOB OF, UH, HOLDING, UM, THIS POSITION, UM, AND, AND SHOWING UP.
UH, WE'VE DONE, WE'VE BEEN VERY, VERY HAPPY.
NONE OF OUR, NONE OF OUR HEARINGS HAVE HAD TO BE RESCHEDULED DUE TO LACK OF QUORUM.
AND, AND THAT IS ALWAYS OUR NUMBER ONE GOAL TO, UH, TO HAVE THESE HEARINGS HELD, TO MAKE OUR DEADLINES AND TO, UH, HAVE OUR CASES, UM, HEARD BEFORE THE BOARD.
UH, MEMBERSHIP HAS BEEN GREAT.
WE HAVE NO CONCERNS, BUT WE DO KEEP THAT TRACKED.
UM, WE, I BELIEVE WE DO HAVE MR. GARZA WHO IS STILL ON THERE.
UM, I THINK HE HAS ROLLED OFF.
UM, WE DO HAVE A NEW BOARD MEMBER WHO HAS NOT QUITE MADE THE LIST, BUT WE'LL BE THERE FOR THE NEXT ONE.
BUT, UH, WE, WE THANK YOU AND, AND DEFINITELY WELCOME ABOARD AND I'LL KEEP MOVING THIS ALONG UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT.
THIS RIGHT HERE IS THE PANEL BREAKOUT BETWEEN PANEL A AND PANEL B.
WE HAVE, UM, WE, JUDY DOES A REALLY GOOD JOB.
UM, BSB DOES A GREAT JOB OF MAKING SURE IT'S AS BALANCED AS POSSIBLE.
WE HAVE REPRESENT REPRESENTATION ON BOTH SIDES OF THE, OF THE BOARD,
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NO MATTER WHICH PANEL MAY BE HEARING CASES.UM, SO THIS IS, UH, THE CURRENT, UH, LAYOUT AND MAKEUP OF OUR BOARD, UH, INCLUDING OUR AT LARGE POSITIONS WHERE THE VACANCY RESIDES AND, UM, THE PANEL MEMBERS.
UNLESS THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU BOARD MEMBERS SO MUCH.
THESE ARE JUST THE, THE TENTATIVE DATES WE HAVE FOR OUR FUTURE MEETINGS.
UM, IT IS ALWAYS SUBJECT TO CHANGE, BUT I THINK WE'VE DONE A VERY GOOD JOB OF, UH, HOLDING TO THE TWO AND MAKING SURE WE HAVE A, UM, A THOROUGH AGENDA SO WE'RE NOT SPENDING TOO LITTLE TIME, BUT ALSO NOT KEEPING YOUR HERE TILL MIDNIGHT EITHER.
SO WE TRY TO KEEP A GOOD BALANCE OF THAT AND KEEP IT AT A REASONABLE TIME.
UH, I REMEMBER MANY YEARS AGO WE'D HAVE THOSE LATE NIGHT ONES AND WE DON'T, WE DON'T EVER WANNA RETURN TO THAT.
BUT WE ALSO DON'T WANNA TIE UP YOUR TIME NEEDLESSLY.
SO I THANK YOU GUYS AGAIN, UH, FOR KEEPING US ON YOUR SCHEDULE AND KEEPING IT A PRIORITY FOR US.
THANK YOU FOR DOING A GREAT JOB.
AND FOR THOSE MANAGERS TRYING TO SNEAK OUT THE BACK, IT'S NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN.
MY NAME IS ALICE GUDO, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES MANAGER.
I WILL BE PRESENTING THE BSB ORDERS AND ACTIONS FROM OCTOBER 1ST, 2022 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2023.
FOR OUR DANGEROUS STRUCTURED CASES, REPAIR WITHOUT PENALTY.
WE DID NOT HAVE ANY CASES READ ACROSS THE BOARD REPAIR ORDER WITHOUT PENALTY FOR PANEL A.
PANEL B, WE HAD THREE FOR A TOTAL OF FIVE REMEDY WITH PENALTY.
THERE WERE NOT ANY FOR EITHER BOARD FOR EITHER PANEL REMEDY WITHOUT PENALTY.
THERE WERE NOT ANY DEMOLITION ORDER WITH PENALTY.
THERE WERE NOT ANY DEMOLITION ORDER WITHOUT PENALTY.
THERE WERE NOT ANY, NO LONGER A PUBLIC NUISANCE.
THERE WAS NOT ANY 30 DAY DEMO WITH PENALTY.
30 DAY DEMO WITHOUT PENALTY FOR PANEL A, THERE WAS 20 FOR PANEL B, THERE WAS 28 FOR A TOTAL OF 48 60 DAY DEMO WITH PENALTY.
THERE WERE NOT ANY 60 DAY DEMO WITHOUT PENALTY.
THERE WERE NOT ANY, ANY 90 DAY PENALTY WITH PEN.
THERE WERE NOT ANY 90 DAY DEMO WITHOUT PENALTY.
THERE WAS NOT ANY A HUNDRED, 120 DAY DEMO WITH PENALTY.
THERE WAS NOT ANY AND 120 DAY DEMO WITHOUT PENALTY.
THERE WAS NOT ANY PULLED FROM THE AGENDA FROM THE FULL BOARD.
THERE WAS ONE FOR PANEL A, THERE WAS FIVE FOR PANEL B.
THERE WAS THREE FOR A TOTAL OF NINE.
AND THE TOTAL NUMBER OF DANGEROUS STRUCTURES CASES PRESENTED WAS 62.
NEXT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO SAN ANTONIO.
PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CASES REPAIR ORDER WITH PENALTY.
PANEL B HAD 12 FOR A TOTAL OF 29.
PANEL A HAD 58 AND PANEL B HAD 55 FOR A TOTAL OF 113 IN COMPLIANCE.
NO REMEDY ORDERED WITH PENALTY.
THERE WAS NOT ANY IN COMPLIANCE.
NO REMEDY ORDERED WITHOUT PENALTY.
THERE WAS NOT ANY PULLED FROM THE AGENDA FROM PANEL A.
PANEL B HAD A TOTAL OF 14 FOR A TOTAL OF 24.
AND THE TOTAL SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CASES WAS 166.
SUMMARY ABATEMENT APPEALS UPHELD CHARGES TO INCLUDE SERVICE AND ADMIN FEE.
THERE WAS NOT ANY REVERSE CHARGES TO INCLUDE SERVICE AND ADMIN FEES.
THERE WAS NOT ANY REDUCED CHARGES TO REDUCE THE SERVICE FEE.
THERE WAS NOT ANY, ANY RESETS.
THERE WAS NOT PULLED FROM THE AGENDA PULL PULLED FROM THE AGENDA.
THERE WAS ONE ON PANEL A FOR A TOTAL OF ONE.
AND TOTAL SUMMARY OF ABATEMENT APPEALS WAS JUST ONE ADMINISTRATIVE ITEMS. EMERGENCY DEMOLITIONS READ INTO RECORD FOR THE FULL BOARD.
PANEL B HAD 25 FOR A TOTAL OF 50.
HOLD HARMLESS AGREEMENTS READ INTO RECORD.
PANEL B HAD THREE FOR A TOTAL OF SIX.
THERE WAS NOT ANY RESET ORDERS AND TOTAL NUMBER OF ORDERS AND ACTIONS.
PANEL B HAD 143 FOR A TOTAL OF 2 85 FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023.
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OF NINE MEETINGS.PANEL B HAD A TOTAL OF 10 AND FULL BOARD HAD ONE MEETING FOR A TOTAL OF 20 ME MEETINGS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO NUMBER OF BSB CASES BY CITY COUNCIL.
DISTRICT COUNCIL DISTRICT ONE DANGEROUS PREMISES CASES HAD 17 SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CASES WERE 40.
ONE HOLD HARMLESS AGREEMENT AND NO SUM.
UH, SUMMARILY ABATEMENT APPEALS COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO HAD A TOTAL OF SIX DANGEROUS PREMISES.
19 SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE EIGHT, EMERGENCY DEMOLITIONS FOUR HOLD HARMLESS AND NO SUMER SUMMARILY ABATEMENT.
APPEALS CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT THREE HAD A TOTAL OF NINE DANGEROUS PREMISES CASES 55 SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CASES.
EMERGENCY DEMOLITIONS, NO HOLD HARMLESSNESS NOR ANY SUMMARILY ABATEMENT.
COUNCIL DISTRICT FIVE, THERE WAS A TOTAL OF 19 DANGEROUS PREMISES CASES.
21 SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CASES 15 EMERGENCY DEMOLITIONS, ONE HOLD HARM MIS AGREEMENT, AND ONE SUMMARILY ABATEMENT APPEAL.
COUNCIL DISTRICT SIX HAD A TOTAL OF SIX DANGEROUS PREMISES CASES.
EIGHT, SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CASES.
FIVE, EMERGENCY DEMOLITIONS NO HOLD HARMLESS OR SOME EARLY ABATEMENT.
APPEALS COUNCIL, DISTRICT SEVEN DID NOT HAVE ANY DANGEROUS PREMISES CASES.
ONE SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CASE AND ONE AND TWO.
WHO TO HARMLESS AGREEMENTS OR SUMMARILY ABATEMENTS.
COUNCIL DISTRICT EIGHT DID NOT HAVE ANY.
DP DID NOT HAVE ANY DANGEROUS PREMISES CASES.
SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CASES, EMERGENCY DEMOLITIONS HOLD HARMLESS AGREEMENTS OR SUMMARILY ABATEMENTS.
COUNCIL DISTRICT NINE DID NOT HAVE ANY DANGEROUS PREMISES CASES.
ONE EMERGENCY DEMOLITION, NO HOLD HARMLESS AGREEMENTS NOR ANY SUMER ABATEMENT.
APPEALS COUNCIL DISTRICT 10 HAD THREE DANGEROUS PREMISES CASES.
13 SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CASES.
TWO EMERGENCY DEMOLITIONS, NO HOLD HARMLESS AGREEMENTS NOR ANY SUMMARILY ABATEMENT APPEALS.
99% OF THOSE WERE PROACTIVE CASES AND 1% WAS A REACTIVE CASE.
AND THAT CONDUCTS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I I'M GONNA HAVE TO ASK THIS BECAUSE DISTRICT NUMBER, MR. ADD, YOU MUST NOT BE HUNGRY, MR. ANDIS.
DISTRICT NUMBER EIGHT SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST FOUND ONE BLADE OF GRASS OUT OF LINE.
AND GOOD JOB AND NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN.
NO, THEY NO, ISN'T THEIR, HMM.
WHAT'S NEXT ON HERE? GUIDELINES AND PROCEDURES.
WHAT GUIDELINES AND PROCEDURES? NUMBER EIGHT.
DON'T THEY NORMALLY GIVE US THE ONE WITH THE BUDGET? NELSON, MR. NELSON.
HEY, DON'T THEY GIVE US THE ONE WITH THE BUDGET OF EVERYBODY THEY HIRED AND ALL THE MONEY THEY SPENT.
THAT'S WHAT THEY GAVE US LAST TIME.
OUR, OUR NEXT PRESENTATIONS, GUIDELINES AND PROCEDURES.
WE DON'T, WE DON'T, WE DON'T FOLLOW THAT.
THIS IS, THIS IS ERIC BURNS WITH LEGAL.
UM, I I I WOULD URGE US TO, LET'S MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SELECTION OF THE BOARD CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR.
I DO NOT BELIEVE THERE, UM, ARE ANY, UM, YEAH, I I I'M NOT SURE IF WE HAVE ANY OTHER, UM, POLICY AND PROCEDURE DISCUSSIONS THAT NEED TO BE HAD.
UNLESS YOU, UH, UNLESS ANYBODY ON THE BOARD HAS A, HAS A QUESTION, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD TO THE, THE ELECTION OF THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT JUDY WOULD WANT US TO DO IF SHE WAS HERE.
WAIT, WHERE DID JUDY GO? THEN? I GET THE FLOOR.
SHE SAID, LOOK, I'M I I LOOK, WE'RE, WE'RE ALL PANICKING.
I I TRUST JENNIFER AND ESTHER, BUT I'M, I'M PANICKING ALREADY.
SO
IT MAY BE MADE BY ACCLAMATION.
I SECOND IT'S BEEN SECOND DENOMINATION HAS BEEN MADE BY ACCLAMATION AND SECONDED BY ACCLAMATION.
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TIME THEN I WOULD, UH, CALL BE HONORED ALSO TO NOMINATE MR. WAIT, LET, LET'S PUT THIS ONE ASIDE.WE NEED TO CALL THE MOTION TO VOTE.
ANY DISCUSSION BY ROLL CALL DWAY NELSON? AYE.
MOTION PASSES WITH THE VOTE OF NINE ZERO.
I WOULD ALS ALSO LIKE TO NOMINATE AT THIS TIME, UH, MR. NELSON FOR VICE CHAIR OF THE BOARD.
I'LL, UH, I'LL SECOND THIS BY, UH, ACCLIMATION.
ANY, WELL, ANY DISCUSSION? MM-HMM.
ANY DISCUSSION BY ROLL CALL DWAYNE NELSON.
MOTION PASSES WITH A VOTE OF NINE TO ZERO.
MS. BROWN, IT GOES BACK TO YOU.
DO WE HAVE WE NEED TO, UH, ISN'T IT FOR, UM, THAT'S DURING THE, UM, NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE PANEL.
NO, THAT'S WHEN PANEL A AND PANEL B GO.
THAT'S WHEN YOU DO YOUR VICE CHAIRS.
SO, UM, WELL I GUESS, I GUESS THIS MEETING HAS COME TO AN END BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
WELL, I HAVE AN OBJECTION TO UNANIMOUS CONSENT AT THIS TIME BECAUSE LISA ASKED THE QUESTION AT ONE POINT IN TIME AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S AN ISSUE.
YOU ASKED THE QUESTION IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION ABOUT WHAT IS THE PROCESS THAT BRINGS A, UH, CASE TO THE BOARD.
AND IF YOU STILL HAVE THAT QUESTION, I WOULD ASK THE, THE, UH, STAFF TO ACTUALLY PREPARE A PRESENTATION FOR YOU TO SEE HOW A CASE COMES TO THE BOARD.
UNLESS YOU ARE COMFORTABLE WITHOUT THAT PRESENTATION NOW.
I THINK I AM COMFORTABLE, UH, I WITHDRAW THE REQUEST TO STAFF.
SO WE'VE, UH, NO GUIDELINES, POLICIES, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE ITEMS, QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD TO STAFF OR ANYBODY? WE'RE GOOD.
WELL, BY UNANIMOUS DECISION WE ARE ADJOURN.
MS. CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO STOP REAL QUICK.
WE DO HAVE SOMEBODY HERE AND I DID WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT.
IF PUBLIC COMMENT IS WANTING TO BE MADE, THE GENTLEMAN WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT.
WHO, OH, THERE, SEE, I'M DONE.
I'M SORRY I COULDN'T SEE YOU OVER THERE.
YEAH, HE DIDN'T HAVE A COMMENT.
SO WE CAN TRY THIS UNANIMOUS THING AGAIN,
BY UNANIMOUS DECISION, WE ARE ADJOURNED TO LUNCH.
I HOPE