Nov 13, 2023 Planning and Community Development Committee

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>> GARCIA: WELCOME TO THE MEETING FOR THE PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE. WE'LL GET STARTED WITH THE MINUTES OF THE 26TH OF THE

PCDC. >> CLERK: WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO ROLL?

>> GARCIA: YES, ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

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>> CLERK: MA'AM, WE HAVE A QUORUM. >> GARCIA: NOW WE WILL DO THE MINUTES FOR OCTOBER 26TH. MAY I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO

APPROVE? >> VIAGRAN: I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> I SECOND. >> GARCIA: THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND ON THE TABLE. PLEASE SAY AYE. MOTION CARRIES.

WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM -- ACTUALLY WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT NOW, BUT THEN BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENT, I WANTED TO ASK MY COLLEAGUES IF IT'S OKAY WE MOVE ITEM NUMBER 4 UP OUT OF THE AGENDA ORDER. BECAUSE WE DO HAVE ANOTHER COLLEAGUE, COUNCILMEMBER

ALDERETE GAVITO, WOULD YOU ALL BE OKAY WITH THAT? >> I DON'T HAVE ANY

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OBJECTION. >> GARCIA: COUNCILMAN, WE'LL HEAR YOU AFTER THE PUBLIC COMMENT. WE HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP ON ITEM 3 AND THAT IS BIANCA

MALDANADO. BIANCA? >> GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS BIANCA MALDANADO AND I COME TO SPEAK ABOUT THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE. I WANT TO THING MR. SHANNON FOR MEETING WITH US BETWEEN NOW AND THE LAST MEETING THAT WAS HELD. ALL THE INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE CITIZENS TO BE HEARD AND ALSO MS. GALBETH, WE WERE ABLE TO MEET WITH MR. SHANNON AND HIS TEAM TO CONTINUE THE DIALOGUE AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR OPENING UP THIS ORDINANCE HOPEFULLY WITH THE STAKEHOLDER TARS THAT YOU WILL INITIATE WITH YOUR ACTION TODAY.

WE HOPE WE WILL CONTINUE THE DIALOGUE TO ENSURE SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE OPERATING IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ORDINANCE AND ITS GOAL TO PROTECT THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE STAYING AT THESE SHORT-TERM RENTALS, BUT ALSO TO PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. WE WANT TO BE THANKFUL OF THE MOVEMENT GOING FORWARD AND LOOK FORWARD TO ROLLING UP OUR SLEEVES AND DOING THE WORK.

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THANK YOU. >> GARCIA: THANK YOU, BIANCA.

WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 4, BRIEFING AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE SENIOR ASSISTANCE PILOT PROGRAM THAT OFFERS PROPERTIES AND TENANTS MINIMUM 65 YEARS OF AGE OR DISABLED WITH FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE WITH LAWNS, ALLEY MAINTENANCE OR TREE TRIMMING OR REMOVAL. THAT WILL BE PRESENTED TODAY BY THE MAN WITH THE COOLEST SOCKS IN TOWN, MIKE SHANNON. MIKE, IT'S ALL YOURS.

>> SHANNON: THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN. THANK YOU, COMMITTEE MEMBERS. YES, AGAIN, I'M MIKE SHANNON AND I'LL BE PRESENTING ON THE SENIOR ASSISTANCE PILOT PROGRAM. I'LL DO A SHORT PRESENTATION FOR YOU. THE IDEA HERE IS THIS IS A PILOT PROGRAM, IT CAME OUT OF THE BUDGET THIS PAST BUDGET CYCLE AND REALLY IT'S FOR PROPERTY OWNERS OR RENTERS. OWNERS OFTEN RENTERS WITH A FINANCIAL NEED, ELDERLY OR DISABLED WITH FINANCIAL HARDSHIP. PARAMETERS WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS AND THEY MUST RESIDE AT THE PROPERTY ADDRESS. REALLY THE GOAL OF THIS STARTED, IT REALLY IS TO PROTECT A VULNERABLE POPULATION.

WE DON'T REALLY WANT THEM TO RECEIVE CODE ENFORCEMENT CITATIONS.

OUR GOAL IS COMPLIANCE, NOT TO CRITERIA PEOPLE ESPECIALLY THOSE IF THEY HAD THE MEANS OR ABILITY THEY COULD AND WOULD, BUT WE KNOW THOSE OUT THERE THAT REALLY NEED ASSISTANCE RATHER THAN LIST OF CITATIONS AND GOING TO COURT.

THE PROPOSED PROGRAM WILL PROVIDE ABATEMENT ASSISTANCE FOR CERTAIN CODE VIOLATIONS, THINGS LIKE OVERGROWN VEGETATION, OUTSIDE PLACEMENT, ALLEY MAINTENANCE AND TRASH AND DEBRIS. WE ALSO RUN INTO SOME HAZARDOUS TREE ISSUES, THE FEAR THAT MIGHT FALL OR A LARGE LIMB MIGHT FALL ON THAT PROPERTY OR ADJACENT PROPERTY. WE'LL USE OUR CITY ARBORIST TO IDENTIFY IF IT'S A DEAD OR DISEASED TREE. WE WANT THIS TO BE SIMPLE. THE ELIGIBILITY WE HAVE ON THE LEFT OF THE SIDE IS, AGAIN, ELDERLY AND/OR DISABLED, ELDERLY IS TYPICALLY DEFINED IN STATE LAW, STATE PROGRAMS AT 65 YEARS OR OLDER.

THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME SORT OF FINANCIAL HARDSHIP. AS I TOLD MY TEAM, IF YOU ARE WEALTHY AND OLD, THIS PROGRAM IS NOT FOR YOU. THIS IS A FINANCIAL

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AND THEN THE BASIC INTAKE REQUEST FORM. WE WOULD WANT TO MAKE THIS VERY LET'S CALL IT LOW BARRIER. THEY WOULD FILL OUT A FORM, DESCRIBE THEIR SITUATION. MANY TIMES IT'S VERY OBVIOUS WHEN OUR CODE OFFICERS ARE TALKING WITH THEM. WE HAVE A LIAISON THAT WORKS WITH OTHER PROGRAMS, THE NON-OFFICERS TO HELP WITH THIS. BUT THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE MEETING THAT CRITERIA. WE WOULD REVIEW THAT AND WE WOULD CONFIRM YES, THERE'S A CODE VIOLATION AND THEN WE WILL DO THE WORK WITH OUR CITY-APPROVED CONTRACTOR OR THOSE THAT WE IDENTIFY THAT CAN HELP. AND THIS IS THE KEY, REMEMBER, IF WE ABATE SOMETHING TODAY, IF WE HAVE TO ABATE SOMETHING TODAY WHERE A PROPERTY OWNER DOES NOT DO IT, AT THE END OF THE PROCESS WE BILL THAT PROPERTY OWNER. THIS PROGRAM IS NOT TO BILL THEM, IT'S JUST TO ASSIST THEM WITH GETTING THAT WORKED CLEANED UP. SO THE BUDGET, AS I MENTIONED, THIS WAS APPROVED, YOU ALREADY APPROVED THIS AS A BUDGET AMENDMENT THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS FOR FY24. IT WAS $100,000.

AND OUR PROPOSAL TODAY IS TO ALLOCATE THAT $100,000 EQUALLY IN THE TEN DISTRICTS. THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT. WE HAD A CONVERSATION INTERNALLY, BUT THIS IS A RELATIVELY SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY, POT OF MONEY.

SO WHAT WE THINK WE SHOULD DIVVY IT UP SO EVERY AREA OF TOWN IS ABLE TO GET SOME ASSISTANCE. WE BELIEVE THAT'S NEEDED EVERYWHERE.

BUT WE NEED TO LEARN WHICH AREAS ARE NEEDING WHAT TYPE OF ASSISTANCE, AND I THINK THIS WILL HELP US IN THE PILOT PROGRAM. AT THE END OF THE PROGRAM, IF IT'S SUCCESSFUL, I BELIEVE IT WILL BE, IF IT IS AND WE BRING IT BACK TO THIS GROUP AND/OR THE FULL COUNCIL POSSIBLY AT A BUDGET PRESENTATION OR SOMETHING, I THINK THEN WE CAN LOOK AT ASSESSING IF THE FUNDS SHOULD BE ALLOCATED DIFFERENTLY AND MAYBE NOT EQUALLY, BUT WE THINK THAT'S A GOOD PROPOSAL, THAT'S OUR RECOMMENDATION MOVING FORWARD. WE WOULD PUT SOME LIMITS, GENERALLY MAXIMUM TWICE PER YEAR. WE DON'T WANT TO BE DOING LAWN MAINTENANCE EVERY MONTH FOR A PARTICULAR HOUSEHOLD, BUT WE KNOW THAT DURING THE WET, WARM SEASON OF APRIL THROUGH JUNE THEY MIGHT NEED SOME HELP A COUPLE OF TIMES.

AND REALLY THAT'S IT. OUR STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE UTILIZE THE APPROVED FUNDING THAT'S ALREADY THERE IN THIS MANNER. WE COULD GET STARTED RATE AWAY AFTER THIS AND WE WOULD WANT TO COME BACK TO YOU IN ABOUT SIX MONTHS WITH THE RESULTS OF THIS TO SHOW WHAT'S WORKING, MAYBE WHAT'S NOT WORKING AND SEE IF THIS IS A PROGRAM WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AFTER THAT. IT'S A VERY SHORT AND SWEET, BUT BE HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS AFTER WE HEAR FROM THE COUNCIL.

>> COURAGE: THANK YOU, MIKE. I'M SO --

>> GARCIA: THANK YOU, MIKE. I'M SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROGRAM. I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE WORK OF MY COLLEAGUE, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO PLEASE COME UP TO THE PODIUM AND ADDRESS YOUR COLLEAGUES, WE WOULD

LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU. >> GAVITO: THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THIS GUY? I'M TALL, NOT THAT TALL. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THIS IMPORTANT ITEM.

I THINK WE'VE HEARD TIME AND TIME AGAIN HEART-BREAKING STORIES OF OUR OLDER ADULTS AND DISABLED RESIDENTS NOT BEING ABLE TO MAINTAIN THEIR YARDS AND THEN BEING CITED FOR IT. THIS PILOT PROGRAM WILL BE ABLE TO CHANGE THE DIRECTION WE AS A CITY TAKE WHEN IT COMES TO INTERACTIONS BETWEEN CODE ENFORCEMENT AND OUR OLDER ADULTS AND DISABLED ADULTS, PREVENTING OUR MOST VULNERABLE POPULATIONS FROM HAVING TRASH ON THEIR PROPERTY. A PROCESS THAT CAN LEAD TO THOUSANDS IN FINES AND VISITS TO MUNICIPAL COURTS. WHENEVER PENNY COUNTS FOR OUR RESIDENTS, THIS CANNOT BE ALLOWED TO HAPPEN. MY HOPE THIS PROGRAM WILL BE PASS # BY THIS COMMITTEE TO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO USE FUNDS EQUALLY AND IN SIX MONTHS WE CAN REASSESS THE DIRECTION. THE TEAM WILL BE ABLE TO IMMEDIATELY BEGIN UTILIZING THIS RESOURCE IN ORDER TO HELP OLDER ADULTS AND DISABLED ADULTS THROUGH THE CITY. I WANT TO THANK MIKE AND THE DSC TEAM FOR PARTNERING ON THIS PROGRAM AND ALSO YOU ALL FOR HELPING MAKE IT HAPPEN IN THIS PAST BUDGET SEASON. THANK YOU, CHAIRWOMAN, FOR LETTING ME HAVE TIME TO SPEAK TODAY. THANKS.

>> GARCIA: THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN. AND AGAIN, I LOVE THIS PLAN.

I ANTICIPATE THAT IT'S GOING TO GO WELL, BUT I'D LOVE TO SEE IF MAYBE AFTER THE FIRST SIX MONTHS WE CAN LOOK AT THIS SUSTAINABILITY OF IT BECAUSE I'M JUST ANTICIPATING THAT IT'S GOING TO GO SO WELL. BUT IT MIGHT BE ALSO IMPORTANT FOR US TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO INCORPORATE THAT FREE MULCH PROGRAM FROM THE

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HOWEVER, THEY ONLY DO COMMERCIAL. MAYBE WE COULD CONVINCE THEM EVENTUALLY TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS ONCE A MONTH OR SOMETHING.

BUT I DO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, MIKE, FOR LOOKING INTO THAT.

I HEARD FROM CARLOS YOU HAD REACHED OUT. WE'LL START WITH MY COLLEAGUES WITH COMMENTS AND START WITH COUNCILMEMBER COURAGE, THEN COUNCILMEMBER

CASTILLO. >> COURAGE: THANK YOU, CARE.

I THINK THIS IS A VERY GOOD PROGRAM. I THINK WE NEED TO INCORPORATE THAT. THAT IS IF WE TAKE A TREE DOWN, LET'S PLANT A TREE OR AT LEAST OFFER IT TO THE HOMEOWNER. THE OTHER THING IS I RECOGNIZE THIS IS A PILOT AND WE'RE SEEING WE'LL ALLOCATE 10,000 EQUALLY FOR EACH. I'M GLAD WE'RE GOING TO REEVALUATE THIS IN SIX MONTHS BECAUSE I WOULD SAY THERE MAY BE SOME DISTRICTS THAT HAVE GREATER NEED THAN OTHERS, AND I WOULD SAY LET'S KEEP IT FLEXIBLE ENOUGH IF THERE'S ONE OR TWO DISTRICTS THAT RUN OUT OF MONEY EARLY, THEY COULD COME AND ASK OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN WE TAP INTO THIS FUND TO HELP PERSONS OUT. THAT'S IT.

>> GARCIA: COUNCILMEMBER CASTILLO. >> CASTILLO: THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND COUNCILMEMBER GAVITO FOR CHALLENGING THIS PROGRAM.

I'M PLEASED TO HEAR WE WILL BE REEVALUATING IT AND MY QUESTION WAS WE'RE GOING TO REVISIT TO LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY EXCESS MONEY AND HOW TO EMOTIONALLY REALLOCATE THAT. I DID HAVE -- POTENTIALLY REALLOCATE THAT.

ARE THERE PERSONS WHO WON'T BE ABLE TO QUALIFY FOR THIS FUNDING?

>> SHANNON: THE WAY WE ENVISION IS IS MORE THE OUTSIDE AND, YOU KNOW, THE HOME REPAIR OR STRUCTURAL REPAIR, FOUNDATION, ROOFS. THAT'S REALLY NOT THIS PROGRAM. WE HAVE OTHER PROGRAMS IN THIS CITY THAT COULD POSSIBLY UTILIZE, THAT DO UTILIZE THOSE. BUT BECAUSE WE WANTED THIS TO BE OWNERS AND AVAILABLE TO RENTERS, RENTERS A LOT OF TIMES ARE REALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR CUTTING THE GRASS, MOWING THE GRASS, PICKING UP THE ALLEY TRASH OR THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. SO WE WANTED TO OPEN IT UP TO BOTH OWNERS AND RENTERS AND THEREFORE WE KEPT IT TO THOSE. SO THERE IS -- YES, THERE ARE SOME THAT WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED, BUT WE'LL TRY TO FIND OTHER WAYS TO HELP OUT.

>> CASTILLO: I APOLOGIZE IF I MISSED IT. WOULD THIS BE UP TO CODE OFFICER DISCRETION? I UNDERSTAND THERE'S SPECIFIC CRITERIA THE CONSTITUENT MUST MEET, BUT TO PUSH IT FORWARD TO RECEIVE ASSISTANCE, WOULD THAT BE THE CODE OFFICER OR CONSTITUENT SERVICES TEAMS OR BOTH?

>> SHANNON: IF ACTUALLY OUR CONSTITUENT SERVICES TEAM AND CODE.

WE'VE ALREADY TALKED TO OUR TEAM. THE WAY IT WOULD HAPPEN IS THE CODE OFFICER IN DISCUSSION WITH THE APPLICANT OR THE PROPERTY OWNER OR THE RENTER, IF THERE'S A NEED, WE WOULD GET THAT INFORMATION, GIVE IT TO OUR TEAM MEMBER THAT HANDLES THESE TYPE OF SITUATIONS AND WE WOULD QUICKLY LOOK AT IT.

IF THEY MEET THE VISIBILITY AND IF IT'S IN CERTAIN DISTRICT THAT HAS FUNDS, WE WOULD WORK TO HELP THEM OUT. IT'S A COMBINATION OF BOTH BUT WE'LL UTILIZE THE TEAM

THAT WE HAVE NOW. >> CASTILLO: THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHAIR.

>> GARCIA: COUNCILMEMBER VIAGRAN. >> VIAGRAN: THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANK YOU, MIKE, AND THANK YOU FOR THE BRIEFING ON THIS PROGRAM. I THINK WHEN THIS COMES AT THE END OF BUDGET, I LIKE THE IDEA OF GIVING IT EQUALLY BETWEEN THE DISTRICTS TO SEE HOW THEY USE IT AND WHAT THEIR PRIORITIES ARE. I THINK THIS IS A STEP TO ASSIST SENIORS WITH LIMITED MEANS. MY TWO STAFFS RESPOND TO THE NEEDS OF ONE OF MY SENIORS IN DISTRICT 3 WHO NEEDED HELP WITH YARD MAINTENANCE.

AFTER THAT SHE THOUGHT SHE COULD CALL AND JUST GET OTHER SERVICES.

I THINK THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY IN THE PILOT TO ALSO EDUCATE OUR SENIORS IN TERMS OF LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR BUDGET. LET'S SEE WHO WE CAN -- WHO CAN COME AND HELP WITH THAT, IF THEY HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS THAT MAYBE LIVING LA VIDA LIVE R SIDE OF TOWN. I THINK THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR SMALL BUSINESSES AND LAWN SERVICES THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND DISTRICT-SPECIFIC TO KIND OF HELP AND ASSIST OUR SENIORS. I THINK THE PILOT PROGRAM ADDRESSES THE CORE NEEDS AND

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I KNOW SPECIFICALLY FOR DISTRICT 3, 10,000 ISN'T ENOUGH, SO I'M PLEDGED TO PUT 5,000 MORE TO THE PROJECTS IN DISTRICT 3 SO THEN THAT WAY IF YOU AS THE DIRECTOR KNOW IF YOU HIT ONE OF THOSE, IT GOES OVER 700, YOU HAVE THAT IN DISTRICT 3.

I LOOK FORWARD TO SEE THAT THERE'S A NEED THAT WE CAN HELP AND OFFER THESE SERVICES.

AND I THINK THE OTHER THING IS WE'LL SEE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND BUSINESS LEADERS WANT TO HELP WITH THIS ALSO. AND THAT WE CAN HAVE THEM CONTRIBUTE WITH THAT.

I KNOW GONSABA FOUNDATION TRIED A PILOT BUT THEY DID NOT HAVE ANY PARAMETERS.

THEY WERE GOING TO PLACES AND THERE WERE ABLE-BODIED PEOPLE IN THE HOME THAT COULD HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THE YARD. WE REALLY WANT TO HELP THOSE THAT DO NOT HAVE ANY OTHER COURSE OF ACTION TO GET THIS DONE.

I'M GLAD YOU STATED THIS ISN'T FOR THE WEALTHY THAT CAN AFFORD A LAWN SERVICE, BUT IT IS FOR THOSE THAT ARE STRUGGLING. THANK YOU.

I THINK WE NEED TO MONITOR THIS. I THINK IF THERE ARE DISTRICTS THAT DON'T SEE A NEED FOR IT, THERE'S GOING TO BE PLENTY OF NEED THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. THANK YOU.

>> GARCIA: THANK YOU SO MUCH, AND THANK YOU, MIKE. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE SOME IDEAS. I APPRECIATE YOU, AGAIN, COUNCILMAN ALDERETE GAVITO, GREAT IDEA. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TO TALK TO US A LITTLE MORE.

WE'LL MOVE ON WITH OUR AGENDA SO YOU ARE FREE TO MOVE ABOUT THE REST OF YOUR

DAY. WE HAVE -- >> SHANNON: COUNCILMEMBER,

CAN I GET AN ACTION TO GLIFF ME THE APPROVAL? >> GARCIA: WE HAVE TO TAKE ACTION. AL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS? MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU.

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>>. >> COURAGE: SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> CASTILLO: THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

MOTION CARRIES. WE WILL GO BACK NOW TO THE ITEM NUMBER 2, WHICH IS PROOFING AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON HOUSING STRATEGIES TO RESPOND TO HOMELESSNESS IN SAN ANTONIO. THAT WILL BE PRESENTED BY PATRICK STECK, BUT I THINK

LORI WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING. >> HOUSTON: I DO WANT TO INTRODUCE A COUPLE PEOPLE IN THE ROOM. WE HAVE OUR HOMELESS RESPONSE TEAM.

THIS IS A GROUP OF LEADERS THAT MEET REGULARLY TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE ARE FACING WITHIN OUR HOMELESS TOOL KIT AND HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER TO PROGRESS WITH THAT TOOL KIT. WE'VE GOT KIM JEFFRIES WITH HAVEN FOR HOPE, ERIKA WITH MINISTRIES. I THINK I SAW DON WHITE, NEKEISHA WITH SAMM MINIMUM TREES AND MELODY. KATIE WILSON JUST WALKED IN WITH FORMERLY SARAH, HER NEW NAME IS -- HOME FOR ALL. CLOSE TO HOME. WE'RE GOING TO GET BETTER AT THAT. I APOLOGIZE. HAD IS A GROUP THAT TALKS ABOUT HOW WE CAN GET TOGETHER AND LEVERAGE OUR RESOURCES.

PATRICK IS GOING TO FOCUS MORE ON HOUSING AND WHAT ARE THE HOUSING STRATEGIES WE HAVE TO HELP THOSE UNSHELTERED. THERE'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT PRESENTATION ON PREVENTION STRATEGIES AND WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT AT ANOTHER SESSION. WE THOUGHT GIVEN THE ENVIRONMENT AND THE FACT THAT OUR LOW-BARRIER SHELTER IS OPENING IN NOVEMBER, MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO TALK ABOUT THOSE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US TODAY.

SO PATRICK? >> THANK YOU, LORI. SO HERE' A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE PRESENTATION. IT IS HOUSING IS THE FOCUS. THAT'S AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1 AND WE'LL TAKE UP THE MAJORITY OF THIS PRESENTATION, ALSO WANT TO TOUCH ON UPDATING ON STREET OUTREACH, WHICH IS TO CONNECT FOLKS FROM THE STREET INTO HOUSING OPTIONS. OUR SITE ABATEMENT PROCESS. WE HAVE A COUPLE PREVENTION ITEMS, BUT IT'S A MUCH LARGER SYSTEM. I MEAN EVEN THIS AUDIO] FORM OF HOMELESS PREVENTION. IT'S A LARGE SYSTEM OF TOOLS THAT WE HAVE TO PREVENT HOMELESSNESS. AND THEN A LITTLE ABOUT RESIDENT COMMUNICATION AS YOU BEGIN COMMUNICATING WITH YOUR RESIDENTS AND WE'LL BE

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ALWAYS LIKE TO START WITH A POINT IN TIME COUNT AS A LEVEL SET.

THE LAST WAS A ONE-NIGHT SNAPSHOT IN JANUARY OF EARLIER THIS YEAR OF PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS ON ONE GIVEN NIGHT. IT COUNTED 874 PEOPLE UNSHELTERED, THOSE WERE ON THE STREETS IN PLACES NOT MEANT FOR HUMAN HABITATION.

AND 2281 IN SHELTERS. THE MAJORITY OF THOSE AT HAVEN FOR HOPE, ABOUT 1700 AT HAVEN FOR HOPE'S CAMPUS, AND THEN OUR OTHER SHELTER SETTINGS.

THAT IS A SNAPSHOT. THERE ARE PEOPLE COMING INTO AND OUT OF THE SYSTEM EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR. OUR PER CAPITA POINT IN TIME COUNT OVERALL, PER CAPITA RELATIVE TO THE ENTIRE COUNTY POPULATION HAS REMAINLY FLAT OVER THE -- REMAINED FLAT OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS WHICH IS A MAJOR ACCOMPLISHMENT.

THE UNSHELTERED POPULATION HAS DECREASED OVER THE LAST 12 YEARS AND A LOT OF THAT ARE FOLKS ACCESSING OUR SHELTER SYSTEM WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT HOW WE'RE WORKING TO CONTINUE THAT MOMENTUM. ALL OF OUR WORK IS GUIDED BY A HOMELESS STRATEGIC PLAN THAT WAS PRESENTED TO COUNCIL IN LATE 2020 AND ADOPTED BY THE CLOSE TO HOME THEN AT THE TIME THE SARA BOARD AS THE COMMUNITY'S STRATEGIC PLAN TO ADDRESS HOMELESSNESS. THESE ARE OUR FIVE MAJOR CATEGORIES.

THEN WITHIN THAT WE HAVE OUR WORK THAT WE WORK ON EVERY YEAR AND FOCUS ON AND SO HOUSING BEING THE BIG FOCUS FOR THIS YEAR. I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE ABOUT THE CONTINUUM OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING INTERVENTION THAT WE CAN PROVIDE TO PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS. FIRST EMERGENCY SHELTER.

THIS IS A SHORT-TERM STAY. EASILY ACCESSED BY PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, COUPLED WITH SUPPORT SERVICES TO END THEIR EXPERIENCE OF HOMELESSNESS. A SUBTYPE OF EMERGENCY HELTER IS LOW BARRIER.

LOW BARRIER MEANS THAT THERE ARE FEW REQUIREMENTS, THERE ARE FEW OR MINIMAL PREREQUISITES TO ENTRY OR TO CONTINUING TO BE IN THAT SHELTER SERVICE.

WE DO HAVE TWO MAJOR LOW-BARRIER SHELTERS, THE CORD YARD OF HAVEN FOR HOPE AND THE NON-CONGREGATE SAMM SHELTER. PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING IS AN INDEFINITE RENTAL ASSISTANCE COUPLED WITH SUPPORTIVE SERVICES.

THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST INTENSIVE AS FAR AS RESOURCES, IT'S PRIORITIZED FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN EXPERIENCING CHRONIC HOMELESSNESS WHO HAVE A DISABLING CONDITION. SO IT IS INDEFINITE. IT IS SOMETHING, AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE WORKING TO CREATE MORE UNITS OF THROUGH OUR HOUSING BOND AND OUR OTHER SOURCES. BUT WE DO HAVE SOME OF THAT ALREADY IN THE COMMUNITY AND WE USE IT FOR THOSE MOST VULNERABLE AMONG THE HOMELESS POPULATION.

SPEAKING OF MOST VULNERABLE, SKILLED NURSING CARE IS A VERY SMALL NEED AS FAR AS POPULATION, BUT HIGHLY, HIGHLY VULNERABLE PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES OR MEDICAL CONDITIONS. TYPICAL SHELTERS ARE NOT THE APPROPRIATE CARE SETTINGS, SO REALLY SKILLED NURSING CARE IS FOR FOLKS AND WE COME ACROSS THESE CASES, WE KNOW THEM BY NAME. THEY ARE VERY -- VERY CHALLENGING AND SAD CASES, FRANKLY, FOR FOLKS WHO NEED HIGH LEVEL OF SKILLED INTERVENTION TO HAVE ONGOING CARE FOR PROBABLY THE REST OF THEIR LIVES. WE'LL TALK ABOUT A PILOT THAT WE'RE STARTING ON THAT. FINALLY OUR VOUCHERS AND RAPID REHOUSING.

THIS IS LIGHTER THAN PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AS FAR AS THE INTENSITY OF THE INTERVENTION. VOUCHERS PROVIDE ONGOING RENTAL ASSISTANCE.

RAPID REHOUSING IS RENTAL ASSISTANCE COUPLED WITH SUPPORTIVE SERVICES.

THE TYPICAL ASSISTANCE THROUGH RAPID REHOUSING IS ABOUT TWO YEARS.

A LITTLE MORE ABOUT HAVEN FOR HOPE, AS THE KEY PART OF OUR HOMELESS RESPONSE SYSTEM AS WITH SHELTER RESOURCES. PROVIDING THE LOW-BARRIER COURTYARD AND TRANSFORMATIONAL SERVICES. JUST THIS SUMMER KEN AND THE TEAM OPENED NEW YOUTH-SPECIFIC DORM AND BED ON BOTH SIDES OF THE HAVEN FOR HOPE CAMPUS BECAUSE THEY HEARD FROM THAT POPULATION THEY NEEDED THEIR OWN SPECIAL SPACE.

THEY HAVE DEDICATED SPACE AND RESOURCES AT HAVEN FOR HOPE FOR THAT POPULATION WHICH IS A GREAT ASSET FOR OUR SYSTEM. AT THE END OF THE OCTOBER THE COUNT WAS 117 FOLKS. 165 FAMILY UNITS, AND 68 OF THOSE ARE 234 IN WHAT WE

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THERE IS A BIT OF A PROCESS. BUT IT IS LOAD BARRIER IN THERE'S NO PREREQUISITES ON STAYING SOBER, YOU DON'T NEED YOUR ID. AND THEN YOU WILL GET YOUR OWN ROOM HERE. SO THE NON-CONGREGATE PIECE IS A UNIQUE THING IN OUR SYSTEM. AND IT IS DESIGNED FOR MEME WHO HAVE THOSE CHALLENGES IN CONGREGATE SETTINGS, MAYBE A MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE, THEY HAVEN'T SUCCEEDED AT HAVEN FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS. RELATIVE TO THE ENTIRE POPULATION, IT'S NOT A MAJORITY, BUT IT IS A PRIORITY POPULATION BECAUSE THEY DO NEED AN INTERVENTION WHERE THIS NON-CONGREGATE ROOM MAY BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THEM BETTER SERVICES AND ULTIMATELY GET THEM INTO PERMANENT HOUSING. SO IT IS A SHELTER STILL.

THE TYPICAL STAY FOR THE LAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS HAS AVERAGED 90 TO 100 DAYS AT THE SAMM SHELTER, THEN THEY ARE ABLE TO GET FOLKS INTO PERMANENT HOUSING THROUGH THE CASE MANAGEMENT, WORKING THROUGH THE DISABLING CONDITION THEY MAY HAVE TO STABILIZE THEM AND KEEP THEM INTO PERMANENT HOUSING, GET THEM INTO PERMANENT HOUSING. WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

A LOT OF ATTENTION HAPPENING AROUND THAT AND IT'S BEEN A KEY ROLE -- OR KEY PART OF OUR HOMELESS RESPONSE SYSTEM THAT WE LOOK TO EXPAND THIS YEAR.

ONE OTHER THING, SO COORDINATING ALL OF THESE BEDS THAT WE'RE MAKING THE INVESTMENTS IN EMERGENCY SHELTERS. SO WE'RE PILOTING WITH HAVEN FOR HOPE TO CENTRAL THE PARTICULAR GETTING INTO THESE BEDS. SO I'LL TALK A LITTLE LATER ABOUT STREET OUTREACH, BUT WE HEARD FROM THE STREET OUTREACH WORKERS, INSTEAD OF CALLING AROUND TO SHELTERS, LET'S SAVE THEM TIME BY HAVING ONE CENTRAL POINT OF COORDINATION FOR ALL SHELTER BEDS. HAVEN HAS PARTNERED WITH SAMM MINISTRIES AND SALVATION ARMY AND ON DECEMBER 1ST WE'LL HAVE A CENTRAL POINT OF COORDINATION. ONE NUMBER TO CALL, ASSESS ELIGIBILITY AS WELL. WE DON'T WANT SOMEONE GETTING TO A SHELTER BED AND TURNS OUT THERE'S A ELIGIBILITY ISSUE. LET'S MAKE THAT A SEAMLESS TRANSITION FOR THE OUTREACH TEAM AND THE CLIENT SO THE OUTREACH CAN GET BACK OUT ON THE STREET FASTER AND WORK WITH MORE CLIENTS UNSHELTERED ENGAGING WITH THEM. AGAIN, THIS IS A PILOT WE'RE STARTING THIS CAREER WITH OUR PARTNERS IN THE RESPONSE SYSTEM. -- THIS YEAR.

I MENTIONED NURSING CARE. AND THOSE VERY HIGHLY VULNERABLE FOLKS WITH MEDICAL ISSUES. CLOSE TO HOME HAS RECEIVED A PRIVATE FUND, PRIVATE FUNDING, AND PARTNERED NOW WITH A SKILLED NURSING FACILITY NEAR DOWNTOWN.

AEN THE GOAL HERE IS TO REALLY GET THOSE HIGHLY VULNERABLE FOLKS WHO ARE ON WHEELCHAIR, MAYBE WITHA VARIOUS CHALLENGES AND WHO NEED THAT ONGOING MEDICAL CARE INTO A FACILITY. WE ARE PARTNERING THIS WITH A PROGRAM CALLED SOAR.

IT'S A FEDERAL PROGRAM THAT THIS COMMUNITY RECEIVED FUNDING FOR THROUGH THE WORK OF CLOSE TO HOME THAT OUR PARTNERS SAMM AND HAVEN FOR HOPE ARE RECEIVING FUNDING FROM HUD. AND IT WORKS WITH CLIENTS TO GET THEM THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY SECURITY BENEFITS. THAT'S A VERY LONG PROCESS FOR ANYONE.

IT'S ESPECIALLY LONG IF YOU DON'T HAVE AN ID, IF YOU DON'T HAVE A FIXED MAILING

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BUT THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT PRIVATE FUNDING UPFRONT, GET FOLKS INTO NURSING CARE QUICKLY AS THE BENEFITS COME IN, WE CAN GET REIMBURSEMENT INTO THE FUND AND CONTINUE SERVING FOLKS. BUT WE DO HAVE A LOT GOING IN PROCESS THERE. WE'RE LOOKING TO START THAT IN JANUARY WHEN THE CONTRACTS FOR HAVEN AND SAMM COME THROUGH FROM HUD FOR THESE SOAR PROVIDERS.

BUT WE REALLY MUST PREVENT WAITING ON THE STREETS FOR THE RIGHT INTERVENTION.

WE HAVE TO HAVE QUICK ACCESS FOR THESE FOLKS AND THAT'S THE GOAL HERE.

AS I MENTIONED, IT'S NOT MANY, WE'RE LOOKING TO DO ABOUT 24 A YEAR, BUT WE DO HAVE THESE CASES REGULARLYLY WHERE WITH WE NEED WHO KIND OF INTERVENTION IN OUR

SYSTEM. >> I WANT TO STRESS THE GRANT IS ABOUT $500,000 UPFRONT. IT WILL PAY FOR SOMEONE TO GO INTO A NURSING HOME FOR ABOUT SIX MONTHS. DURING THAT TIME WE'LL BE WORKING WITH THE SOAR PROGRAM, MEDICAID TO GET THEM INTO THE PROGRAM. MEDICAID WILL REIMBURSE US, THEN WE CAN USE THAT TO GET ANOTHER PERSON INTO THE SKILLED NURSING FACILITY.

SO IT'S 24 NEW CLIENTS A YEAR. SO YEAR ONE 24, TWO 24 FOR A TOTAL OF 48. IT'S NOT 24 CAPPED EVERY YEAR.

SO IT WAS AN INNOVATIVE APPROACH TO BE ABLE TO SOLVE A PROBLEM THAT OUR OUTREACH WORKERS ARE REALLY STRESSED ABOUT. THEY GO HOME WORRYING ABOUT THAT ONE CLIENT EVERY NIGHT DIE ON THE STREET BECAUSE THEY CAN'T PROVIDE THE CARE THEY REALLY NEED. THIS IS A GREAT SOLUTION THAT CAME THROUGH OUR PARTNERSHIP WORKSHOP AND THANK YOU TO THIS DONOR FOR HELPING US OUT.

AND COUNCILMEMBER CASTILLO MIGHT HAVE MORE TO ADD ABOUT THIS, BUT SHE HAD A SPECIFIC CLIENT THAT WOULD HAVE BENEFITED FROM THIS PROGRAM, AND THIS WAS REALLY KIND OF ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE FOCUS ON THIS IS IT CAN'T HAPPEN AGAIN.

>> THAT'S RIGHT. AND REALLY THE EPITOME OF COLLABORATION, WORKING WITH VARIOUS FUNDERS, VARIOUS AGENCIES, IT'S TAKEN SOME TIME TO GET HERE, BUT WE ARE REALLY GRATEFUL TO HAVE ALL THIS COLLABORATION FOR THESE FOLKS.

NEXT ON PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, MANY OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE HOUSING BOND, THE 2022 HOUSING BOND IS ALLOCATED FUND TO GO DEVELOP NEW UNITS.

WE DO HAVE OPERATING ACROSS THE COMMUNITY AT MARKET RATE SCATTERED SITE-TYPE UNITS ACROSS THE CITY ABOUT 1300 -- A LITTLE OVER 1300 SLOTS OF PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. THE NEW DEVELOPMENT THROUGH THE BOND ARE SINGLE SITE.

SO THE MAJORITY OF UNITS ON A GIVEN PROPERTY WILL BE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. PROVIDE SOME EFFICIENCIES AND SOME UNIQUE ABILITIES WITH CASE MANAGEMENT THERE. TOWN TWIN VILLAGE, YOU WILL SEE COMMONS IS A SAMM MINIMUM TREES PROJECT, AS IS THE HUDSON. THE SAN~PEDRO 2017 BOND PROJECT, THIS IS AN UPDATE TO THIS SLIDE ACTUALLY, WILL BE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING UNITS, SO WE LEARN MORE OF THEM WILL BE PSH. THAT 3 08 NEW UNITS IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE 368 GLIFF EVEN THE LATEST CHANGE FROM THE SAN~PEDRO PROJECT.

WE HAVE $10,000 FROM REMAINING FUNDS TO DEVELOP ADDITIONAL PSH.

THIS IS COUPLED WITH FEDERAL FUNDS AND ONGOING DRAWING DOWN HUD FUNDS TO PROVIDE ONGOING SUPPORTIVE SERVICES. WE NEED 1,000 BEDS BECAUSE WE HAVE A WAIT LIST OF OVER 2400 ACTIVE HOUSEHOLDS ON THE WAIT LISTS. THEY ARE FUNCTIONALLY COMBINED THROUGH OUR PRIORITIZATION SYSTEM, BUT WE ARE PUTTING FOLKS INTO RAPID REHOUSING BECAUSE WE NEED THAT INTERVENTION, BUT KNOW THEY NEED PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING BECAUSE THEY ARE AT THAT LEVEL OF VULNERABILITY.

>> HOUSTON: ON THIS SLIDE IT'S A FIVE YEAR FORECAST. OUR GOAL IS FOR TEN YEARS.

WE'RE GOING TO BE OVER 500 WITHIN THAT FIRST FIVE YEARS.

WE HAVE ANOTHER BOND ROUND COMING UP IN 2027, HOPEFULLY WE GET MORE FUNDING THROUGH THAT, BUT ALSO FEDERAL FUNDING HAS BEEN COMING THROUGH TO SAN ANTONIO AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF FOCUS ON PSH. WE ANTICIPATE GETTING MORE MONEY SPECIFIC TO PSH AND BEING ABLE TO BEAT THIS GOAL PRIOR TO THAT TEN-YEAR TIME

FRAME. >> I MENTIONED RAPID REHOUSING.

THIS SLIDE JUST SHOWS SOME OF THE NEW RESOURCES COMING ONLINE.

THE CLOSE TO HOME RECEIVED ADDITIONAL HUD ROUND FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

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THOSE ARE PARTNERSHIPS WITH HAVEN, SAMM MINIMUM TREES AND THE SA HOPE CENTER RECEIVED THIS SPECIAL NOTICE OF FUNDING HUD GAVE TO ONLY SELECT COMMUNITIES.

SAN ANTONIO WAS FORTUNATE TO RECEIVE THAT. WE ALSO AT THE CITY RECEIVED HOME ARPA FUNDING, ANOTHER FEDERAL FUNDING SOURCE THROUGH HUD.

THAT WILL PROVIDE FUNDING FOR ABOUT 130 ADDITIONAL, TECHNICALLY TENANT-BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE, FUNCTIONING AS RAPID REHOUSING, PRIORITIZED FOR CON CHRONICALLY HOMELESS AND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. THEY WILL BE PRIORITIZED THROUGH THE CLOSE TO HOME SYSTEM TO GET THAT TO THE FOLKS MOST VULNERABLE.

THOSE ARE THE NEW RAPID REHOUSING RESOURCES. VOUCHERS, RECENTLY OPPORTUNITY HOME SET ASIDE AN ADDITIONAL 150 HOUSING CHOICE VOUCHERS FOR THE HOMELESS RESPONSE SYSTEM. AGAIN COORDINATED THROUGH OR PRIORITIZATION SYSTEM.

WE ARE WORKING WITH OPPORTUNITY HOME TO REDUCE THE BARRIERS THAT FOLKS ARE SEEING. THERE'S A PROCESS TO GET A VOUCHER FULLY APPROVED AND BACKGROUND CHECK AND UNIT INSPECTION. THOSE THINGS CAN'T BE AVOIDED, BUT WE HAD A CONVERSATION THURSDAY HOW WE CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE CHALLENGES TO GET FOLKS HOUSED FASTER. WE DO HAVE TO CONSIDER AND REMEMBER THE ONGOING CASE MANAGEMENT, WHICH IS NOT PART OF THE VOUCHER, AS I MENTIONED, IT'S JUST RENTAL ASSISTANCE. WE'RE WORKING ON HOW WE CAN COUPLE OTHER FUNDING SOURCES TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN AND SERVE OUR FOLKS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS. AND THEN THIS WEEK IS HUNGER AND HOMELESS AWARENESS WEEK.

THE FOLKS HERE, SEVERAL OF THEM LAUNCHED THAT ON SATURDAY.

WE ARE LAUNCHING A CHALLENGE TO HOUSE 90 FAMILIES IN THE NEXT 90 DAYS THROUGH OUR RESPONSE SYSTEM. FOCUSING ON ESPECIALLY THE FOLKS WHO ARE AT HAVEN, THOSE WHO ARE IN EMERGENCY SERVICES IN OUR OVERFLOW SYSTEM, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE CAPACITY. WE NEED TO GET THESE FAMILIES HOUSED, ESPECIALLY AHEAD OF THE HOLIDAYS, BUT BECAUSE THE TRENDS ARE NOT GOING DOWN AT HAVEN FOR HOPE AS WE EXPECT SOMETIMES DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR. THIS IS AN INITIATIVE THAT WE ARE LAUNCHING FOR THE NEXT THREE MONTHS TO HOUSE 90 FAMILIES.

WE CAN TALK MORE ABOUT THAT IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. SO THOSE ARE OUR HOUSING THINGS. A FEW OTHER ITEMS OUR STREET OUTREACH TEAMS. FOR THE LAST YEAR, WE ENGAGED WITH REALLY THE FRONT-LINE STREET OUTREACH FOLKS TO HELP THEM DO THEIR WORK BETTER. OUT OF THAT CAME THE SKILLED NURSING CONVERSATION, THE SHELTER BED COORDINATION. WE'RE ALSO GOING TO START A CROSS-AGENCY TRAINING PROGRAM SO THAT THE DHS OUTREACH WORKERS ARE GOING OUT WITH THE HAVEN AND SAMM OUTREACH WORKERS. IT IS HAPPENING NOW ORGANICALLY, BUT WE WANT TO FORMALIZE THAT 10 THE RESPONSE SYSTEM AT ALL LEVELS IS WELL COORDINATED. WE ARE PROVIDING -- CLOSE TO HOME HAS COORDINATED A LEARNING FRAMEWORK FOR STREET OUTREACH AND ALL PROVIDERS WHICH WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT TO REALLY TRAIN AND BRING UP AND PROFESSIONALIZE THIS FIELD WE'RE LEANING ON TO DO A LOT OF THIS WORK. WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT HAPPENING THE NEXT YEAR. ENCAMP.

ABATEMENTS. ENCAMPMENT SITES ARE ABATED WHEN ASSESSED FOR HEALTH ANNUAL SAFETY CONCERNS. WE ALWAYS PROVIDE OUTREACH AT THE ASSESSMENTS, AT ANY FOLLOW-UP NOTIFICATIONS WE'RE PROVIDING STREET OUTREACH, AND THE DAY OF THE SITE ABATEMENT WE'RE LEADING WITH OUTREACH. AT LEAST 48 HOURS NOTIFICATION BEFORE A SITE IS ABATED. LAST FISCAL YEAR WE COMPLETED 680 SITE ABS TO ALLOW FOR FASTER RESPONSE TO THOSE 311 CALLS THAT RESIDENTS MAKE OR CALLING IN. SOME NEW RESOURCES IN OUR SYSTEM ON HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION. AGAIN, THAT HOME ARPA FUNDING SOURCE PROVIDED $2.3 MILLION. THAT IS RENTAL ASSISTANCE.

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COUNCIL ALSO APPROVED FOR AN ADDITIONAL $200,000 IN HOMELESS DIVERSION FUNDS, SO THAT'S 400,000 NOW THAT WE HAVE IN FLEXIBLE FUNDING WITH PARTNERSHIP WITH CLOSE TO HOME TO PROVIDE SHORT-TERM, SMALL INTERVENTION TO PREVENT A FAMILY FROM EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS. AND AS I MENTIONED, THE PREVENTION ECOSYSTEM IS MUCH LARGER CONVERSATION, BUT WORKING WITH HSD AND OTHER COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO PREVENT FAMILIES FROM FALLING INTO HOMELESSNESS IN THE FIRST PLACE. LAST A COUPLE ITEMS ON PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT WITH OUR HOUSE RESIDENTS. THIS IS A SCREEN SHOT OF A WEBSITE THAT WENT UP A FEW WEEKS AGO. RIGHT NOW IT IS HOSTING AND DISPLAYING OUR ENCAMPMENT ABATEMENT SCHEDULE, WHICH WAS SOMETHING THAT OUR COMMUNITY ASKED FOR AND THE CITY MANAGER IS COMMITTED TO SHARING THAT WEEKLY. OUR ABATEMENTS SCHEDULED FOR THIS WEEK ARE POSTED ONLINE WITH SOME INFORMATION AND CONTEXT ABOUT THE WHOLE PROCESS. WE ALSO HAVE ONLINE ON OUR DHS SITE SOME OF THE OUTCOMES OF OUR STREET OUTREACH PROGRAM, OUR HOMELESS CONNECTIONS HOTLINE AND VETERANS COORDINATION. THEY LIVE ONLINE RIGHT NOW.

BECAUSE WE DO GET A LOT OF INTEREST IN THIS TOPIC. SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.

AND THEN AT THE COMMUNITY LEVEL CLOSE TO HOME HAS THE COMMUNITY DASHBOARD AND IS SIMILARLY REVISING HOW THAT IS PRESENTED SO THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND AT THE COMMUNITY LEVEL ACROSS ALL PROVIDERS, ALL FUND SOURCES HOW OUR RESPONSE SYSTEM IS OPERATING, WHAT THE OUTCOMES ARE, HOW MANY FOLKS ARE GETTING HOUSED FROM STREETS AND SHELTERS. HOW MANY FOLKS ARE GOING FROM THE STREETS INTO SHELTERS IN THE FIRST PLACE. THAT INFORMATION WILL LIVE ON THE CLOSE TO HOME DASHBOARD AND WE'LL SHARE INFORMATION AS BOTH OF THESE COME UPDATED.

AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK THE PARTNERS WHO ARE HERE TODAY AND ALL OF THEIR TEAMS THAT WE WORK WITH. IT IS A GROUP EFFORT AND AS LORI MENTIONED WE ARE REGULARLY MEETING ON HOW WE CAN IMPROVE OUR SYSTEM. THIS IS THE RESULT OF A LOT OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

>> GARCIA: GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, PATRICK. I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS AND I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE SALVATION ARMY.

A COUPLE YEARS AGO I THINK KIM WAS JUST NEW IN THE CEO ROLL AND WE -- ROLE AND WE TOOK A TOUR TOGETHER AT SALVATION ARMY AND I COULDN'T BELIEVE WE ALL WEREN'T WORKING TOGETHER. I'M SO HAPPY ABOUT THAT ONE ESPECIALLY.

KICK RIGHT AWAY WAS LIKE WE SHOULD GET TOGETHER AND SO I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE SALVATION ARMY. AND SO THANK YOU FOR THAT CONTINUED WORK, KIM.

AND THEN I'M ALSO EXCITED ABOUT THE -- THIS WEEKEND WE ANNOUNCED THE CLOSE TO HOME SPECIFICALLY, THE HOUSING, THE 90 FAMILIES, AND LAST YEAR I TOLD MY COLLEAGUES ALSO I HAD A TOUR OF HAVEN AND THERE WAS OVERFLOW FAMILIES THAT WERE SLEEPING ALL TOGETHER AND THEY HAD BLANKETS LITERALLY AT THEIR BEST.

SO THE BIGGER THE FAMILIES, THE MORE BLANKETS THAT THEY GOT TO SPREAD OUT IN ONE ROOM. KIND OF THE SIZE OF THIS ROOM, MAYBE A LITTLE SMALLER. AND SO IT WAS BOTH HEART-BREAKING BUT ALSO INCREDIBLE TO SEE HOW THE FAMILIES JUST STUCK TOGETHER, STUCK TOGETHER AND WERE JUST THERE WITH THEIR KIDS AND STILL TRYING TO BE AS JOYFUL AS POSSIBLE.

SOME OF THE KIDS WERE PLAYING OUTSIDE. I ENCOURAGE YOU IF YOU HAVEN'T TAKEN A TOUR LATELY OF HAVEN TO GO OUT THERE AND SEE WHAT THEY ARE DOING.

AND THEN ALSO SAMMINISTRIES IS -- I THINK THEY ARE IN THE HOUSE, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY MADE IT, BUT COUNCILMEMBER COURAGE AND I ATTENDED THE EMPTY BOWLS EVENT SO I HAVE MY BOWL UPFRONT. WE ALL GOT A BOWL, SO I ENCOURAGE YOU IF YOU DIDN'T MAKE THE EVENT, BUY A BOWL OR SUPPORT SAMMINISTRIES.

SAMMINISTRIES BECAUSE MY FIRST JOB OUT OF COLLEGE AND YOU ALL MADE ME ALWAYS WANT TO WORK IN A NON-PROFIT LIKE FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE. THAT'S HOW IMPACTFUL THAT WORK WAS FOR ME AND WHY I WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THAT.

BUT COUNCILMEMBER VIAGRAN SAID SOMETHING EARLIER ABOUT BUSINESSES, AND I DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT DURING THE EMPTY BOWLS EVENT, THERE WAS SOME LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT DONATED SOUPS FOR THE EMPTY BOWLS EVENT. AND YOU COULD GET GUMBO FROM CURED OR THE VIETNAM GARDENS HAD EGG DROP SOUP. AND THERE WAS ALMA BLANCA

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JUST WHATEVER WAY YOU CAN HELP, IT'S GOING TO MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE.

I HEAR THERE'S A NEED FORAMENS CLOTHING SPECIFICALLY AT HAVEN.

THE CLOSET WAS FULL FOR THE WOMEN, BUT FOR THE MEN IT LOOKS A LITTLE EMPTY.

I ENCOURAGE YOU IF YOU HAVE ANY EXTRA CLOTHES THAT YOU TAKE IT.

THEN THE 150 VOUCHERS, THE -- THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET WITH OPPORTUNITY HOME, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT HELP AS WELL. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE MAYOR'S OFFICE WORKED CLOSELY WITH LORI HOUSTON AND HER TEAM SO I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE WORK OF THE MAYOR'S OFFICE SPECIFICALLY DR. JUAN VALDEZ AND THERESA FOR THAT AS WELL. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SOME MORE INPUT FROM MY COLLEAGUES. AND THE STRATEGIES THAT WE KIND OF HEAR TODAY FOR THE PRODUCTION UNITS, THE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, I LOVE THAT WE CAN ALL STAY UP TO DATE.

WEEKS AGO AND THERE WAS A LOT OF COMPASSION. THERE WAS ONE PERSON THAT SAID NO MORE SWEETS, THE OTHER ONES ASKED FOR SPECIFICALLY ABOUT HOW THEY CAN HELP THE FOLKS AND WANTED TO KNOW WHAT SPECIFICALLY THEY COULD DO IN THEIR CHURCHES. I'D LIKE TO CONTINUE THAT FOCUS ON HOW WE CAN INTEGRATE OUR CHURCHES AND OUR COMMUNITY. I SUBMITTED A CCR LAST YEAR TO ESTABLISH A METRIC ON A HOUSING CRISIS. ONE OF THE BULLET POINTS WAS LOOKING AT HOUSING IN OUR LOCAL CHURCHES. I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW THEY CAN PLAY A ROLE IN THAT TEMPORARY SHELTER. I KNOW THERE'S SOME WORK BEING DONE ALREADY, BUT I THINK THEY NEED TO BE PART OF THE MIX AS WELL.

I THINK SAMMINISTRIES HAS DONE IT VERY WELL. SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE DISCUSSED NEW POLICIES AND PROCEDURES FOR HOMELESS OUTREACH AND FOLLOW-UP.

AGAIN, WE'RE ALL TRYING TO SEE WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO. AND THEN I'M WONDERING ALSO, PATRICK, HAVE YOU MADE ROUNDS WITH OUR COLLEAGUES ACROSS THE DISTRICTS JUST TO SEE WHAT THEY ARE HEARING RIGHT NOW ABOUT WHAT -- WHAT'S GOING ON, THE

SITUATION? >> YES, WE -- OUR STREET OUTREACH WORKERS SERVE AS YOUR DAY TO DAY POINT OF CONTACT, BUT WE HAVE MET WITH SEVERAL OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS ESPECIALLY BRIEFING ON THESE INITIATIVES.

>> GARCIA: DOES EVERY DISTRICT HAVE AN OUTREACH COORDINATOR?

>> WE HAVE I BELIEVE TWO VACANCIES AT THIS MOMENT SO WE ARE SHARING WITH SOME

OTHERS, BUT WE'RE HIRING -- >> GARCIA: WHAT DISTRICTS ARE VACANT?

>> 7 AND 10 ARE CURRENTLY VACANT. >> GARCIA: AND THEN WITH THE INCREASED NUMBER OF SWEEPS, HAVE WE SEEN SOME ADDITIONAL PARTICIPATION IN

PSH? >> YOU KNOW, WE ARE ALWAYS DOING PROACTIVE STREET OUTREACH WITH FOLKS WHO ARE IN ENCAMPMENTS. I CAN'T SAY THERE'S BEEN A DIRECT CORRELATION. I'D HAVE TO LOOK INTO THOSE NUMBERS SPECIFICALLY, BUT WE ARE ALWAYS DO THAT PROACTIVE OUTREACH. ON THE DAY OF THE EVENT, WE'VE GIVEN SO MUCH NOTICE BOTH WITH OUR ABATEMENT TEAM OR STREET OUTREACH TEAM.

MANY FOLKS ARE EITHER AWARE OR MOVED ON OR HAVE ENGAGED IN SERVICES PRIOR TO THE DAY OF THE EVENT. WE'RE SEEING THAT TREND THE DAY OF THE ABATEMENT EVENTS, THINGS HAVE SHIFTED AND I ATTRIBUTE TO THE STREET OUTREACH.

>> GARCIA: I KNOW WE KEEP TRACK OF LESSONS LEARNED, BUT I WAS WONDERING IF WE HAVE BEEN ENGAGING IN THE AREAS, DOWNTOWN SPECIFICALLY.

>> FOR THE NURSING ONE SPECIFICALLY? >> GARCIA: UH-HUH.

>> WE'VE NOT YET. THE POPULATION -- THIS WOULD BE A SMALL PART OF THEIR

OPERATION, BUT WE COULD LOOK INTO DOING -- >> GARCIA: SOUNDS GOOD.

LORI. >> HOUSTON: IF I COULD ADD TO THAT, FOR THOSE FIRST 12 IN THAT PILOT, IT'S GOING TO BE WORKING WITH OUR OUTREACH WORKERS AND HAVEN FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS WE KNOW NEED THAT SKILLED NURSING CARE IMMEDIATELY.

WE WILL BE WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO HELP US IDENTIFY THOSE THEY FEEL WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS PROGRAM. WE HAVE A LIST OF AT LEAST 40 THAT COULD GO INTO THIS PROGRAM IMMEDIATELY SO WE'RE GOING TO SERVE THOSE BECAUSE IT WILL ALLEVIATE CAPACITY IN SOME OF OUR OTHER SHELTERS.

>> GARCIA: I'LL START WITH COUNCILMEMBER CASTILLO, THEN COUNCILMEMBER PELÁEZ.

>> CASTILLO: THANK YOU, CHAIR, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND TO ALL THE

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I WANTED TO TURN TO THE NURSING HOME BRIDGE CARE AND THANK LORI, MELODY AND THE TEAM FOR MOVING WITH URGENCY THERE'S A PROGRAM TO HELP CONSTITUENTS WHO NEED THIS ADDITIONAL CARE. OUR TEAM IS REALLY GRATEFUL THAT YOU ALL HAVE MOVED WITH URGENCY TO CREATE A PROGRAM AND SUPPORT SO MANY FOLKS THROUGH IT.

I WANTED TO SHIFT TO THE RAPID REHOUSING PROGRAM. VERY MUCH NEEDED PROGRAM.

SINCE WE HAVE MIKE IN THE ROOM, IT'S IMPORTANT THESE RAPID REHOUSING HOMES ARE ALSO INSPECTED. WE HAD ONE IN PARTICULAR WE WERE ABLE TO GET HER CONNECTED TO TOWN VILLAGE HOWEVER IT HAD MOLD AND INACCESSIBLE AND NOT A QUALITY PLACE TO LIVE. I WANT TO ENSURE IF WE'RE CONNECTING FAMILIES TO THESE RAPID REHOUSING UNITS THAT THEY ARE OF QUALITY. WE WANT TO ENSURE WE'RE CONNECTING THEM TO A QUALITY UNIT. IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DONE OR ARE THEY INSPECTED ANNUALLY, QUARTERLY?

>> SHANNON: RIGHT, SO PRIOR TO MOVING A CLIENT INTO A RAPID REHOUSING UNIT, IT IS INSPECTED AND THAT'S A FEDERAL REQUIREMENT. MANY OF THE RAPID REHOUSING PROGRAMS, MAYBE ALL ARE FEDERALLY FUNDED SO THERE ARE FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS.

LIKE VOUCHER UNITS. WE ARE CHECKING THOSE UNITS BEFORE MOVING FOLKS INTO

THEM. >> CASTILLO: HOW MANY INSPECTIONS ARE THERE? INITIAL BEFORE THEY MOVE IN OR WHILE IT'S OCCUPIED THEY ARE ALSO BEING INSPECTED?

>> I BELIEVE IT'S JUST BEFORE MOVE-IN, BUT THESE FOLKS ARE RECEIVING CASE MANAGEMENT. IF THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH THE LANDLORD, THEIR CASE MANAGER IS THERE TO HELP BE THE MEDIATOR BETWEEN THEM AND THE LAND BOARD.

WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LANDLORD ENGAGEMENT TO GET UNITS, THE LANDLORD CAN CALL THE CASE MANAGER. THAT ONGOING CASE MANAGER IS THERE TO ASSIST IF THERE IS

A ISSUE. >> CASTILLO: HAS OPPORTUNITY HOME SHARED ANY METRICS ON HOW MANY LANDLORDS HAVE PARTICIPATED IN THE INCENTIVE PROGRAM?

I KNOW OPPORTUNITY HOME WAS ISSUING INCENTIVES TO GET -- >> RIGHT.

WE DID DISCUSS THAT YESTERDAY. I THINK THAT'S A FAIRLY NEW INITIATIVE SO I'M NOT AWARE OF THE METRICS OR THE OUTCOMES YES.

BUT THEY ARE, YES, PROBABLY I BELIEVE IT'S $500 INCENTIVE TO SIGN UP

LANDLORDS. >> CASTILLO: THANK YOU. IT'S REALLY INTERESTING TO SEE THE UNSHELTERED POPULATION HAS DECREASED BY 25% FROM 2011 TO 2023.

I'M CURIOUS IF THE INCREASED AMOUNT OF ABATEMENTS HAVE INCREASED THE PUBLIC PERCEPTION OF HOMELESSNESS. I OFTEN HEAR THEY DON'T REMEMBER SEEING THIS MANY UNHOUSED INDIVIDUALS. AND TO SEE THE NUMBERS, IF ANYTHING SHOULD BE LOWER, THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THEY ARE SEEING ON THE STREETS. I'M CURIOUS IF THERE'S A CORRELATION BETWEEN ENCAMPMENT ABATEMENTS AND JUST THE PERCEPTION OF THERE'S MORE INDIVIDUALS DESPITE THE DATA SHOWING IT'S DECREASED BY 25%.

>> CAN I TRY TO ADDRESS THAT. THERE'S CHALLENGES WITH POINT IN TIME COUNT EVERY YEAR. SO WHEN YOU DO IT IN JANUARY, IT COULD BE A VERY COLD NIGHT AND SO THOSE THAT WERE UNSHELTERED COULD BE IN SHELTERS. SO OUR NUMBERS COULD DECREASE AND SHOW US A DECREASE. THE KEY THING HERE IS OVER THE PAST TEN YEARS OUR SHELTERED AND UNSHELTERED NUMBER HAVE BEEN AROUND THE SAME, AROUND 3200.

SO THAT'S NOT GROWING. BUT WHEN I LOOK AT THE MENTAL HEALTH IN TIME COUNT -- POINT IN TIME COUNT, THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT VARIABLES THAT IT COULD HAVE BEEN 1200 THE WEEK PRIOR, BUT IT GOT COLD AND EVERYONE WENT INSIDE.

WE'RE TRYING TO DO MORE REGULAR COUNTS JUST TO SEE IF WE'RE SEEING THAT DECREASE. AND I ALSO WANTED TO ADD THE VOUCHER QUESTION YOU HAD ABOUT OPPORTUNITY HOME, WE'VE BEEN SO PLEASED WITH THE PARTNERSHIP WE'VE HAD OVER THE PAST MONTH AND A HALF WORKING WITH THEM TO REMOVE SOME OF THESE BARRIERS. SO THEY ARE OFFERING INCENTIVES.

BUT ALSO ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WE'VE HAD IS HAVEN FOR HOPE OR SAMM, THEY HAVE A LIST OF LANDLORDS THAT WILL TAKE VOUCHER HOLDERS.

BUT THE CHALLENGE IS GETTING THE INSPECTION, GETTING THROUGH THE BUREAUCRACY IN TERMS OF ALL THAT PAPERWORK. AND SO WE'RE ALL WORKING TOGETHER TO SEE HOW WE CAN SHORTEN THAT. AND SO THE INCENTIVE IS ONE OF SEVERAL TOOLS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON TOGETHER TO SEE HOW WE CAN DECREASE THAT TIME.

BECAUSE VOUCHERS ARE A HUGE OPPORTUNITY, BUT WE CAN'T WAIT THREE TO SIX MONTHS TO

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>> CASTILLO: THANK YOU FOR CONTEXTUALIZING THE DECREASE.

I WANTED TO SHIFT BRIEFLY BACK TO THE ENCAMPMENT ABATEMENTS.

MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOUSED. HE HAS A WAGON ESPECIALLY NOW THAT IT'S GETTING COLDER. A CONCERN THAT I HAVE WITH THE NEW INITIATIVE WITH THE RECENTLY PASSED BUDGET IS THE INCREASE IN ABATEMENTS THAT WE ARE GOING TO SEE AS A CITY AND WITH IT GETTING COLDER.

IN MY DISTRICT IN PARTICULAR WE HAVE A HIGH PERCENTAGE OF VACANT STRUCTURES, AND WE ALSO HAVE THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE OF VACANT STRUCTURE FIRES.

MY WORRY IS FOLKS ARE GOING TO FIND THEMSELVES IN A VACANT STRUCTURE TO STAY WARM AND THE POTENTIAL RISK WITH INCREASED FIRES IF WE'RE ALREADY SEEING THE CORRELATION. SO I GUESS MY ASK IS DURING THESE COLDER MONTHS, I KNOW THE TEAM AND ALL THE PARTNERS ARE WORKING WITH URGENCY TO HOUSE FOLKS AND MAKE SURE THEY ARE CONNECTED TO SHELTER. BUT I WORRY ABOUT THE ABATEMENT OF FOLKS' BELONGINGS. MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS HAVE DIFFERENT REASONS WHY THEY CHOOSE NOT TO GO INTO ANY SHELTER, BUT I WORRY IF THERE IS REMOVAL OF THEIR BELONGINGS THAT THEY USE TO KEEP WARM, THEY MAY FIND THEMSELVES IN A VACANT STRUCTURE. MORE OF A COMMENT THAN A QUESTION. I WANTED TO THANK KIM JEFFRIES FOR SENDING US THE STAKEHOLDER NEWSLETTER. THIS IS HELPFUL. MY CONSTITUENTS ALWAYS HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS AND CITING THIS DATA IS HELPFUL. THANK YOU TO YOUR TEAM AND

ALL YOUR PARTNERS. THANK YOU, CHAIR. >> GARCIA: COUNCILMEMBER

PELÁEZ, INVOLVED BY COUNCILMEMBER VIAGRAN. >> PELÁEZ: GREAT JOB.

GREAT JOB. I KNOW THIS IS HARD WORK AND IN MANY INSTANCES THANKLESS.

IT SHOULDN'T BE THANKLESS, BUT YOU'RE TRYING TO SOLVE FOR A MACRO ECONOMIC PROBLEM THAT IS BEING FACED NOT JUST BY THE UNITED STATES BUT MANY WESTERN AND FIRST WORLD COUNTRIES. AND I SEE YOU, LORI, AND YOUR TEAM AND YOU ARE POURING ALL OF YOURSELVES INTO THIS DESPITE THE FACT THIS IS DAUNTING AND MANY WITH LESS STEEL IN THEIR SPINES WOULD WALK AWAY AND THROW UP THEIR HANDS AND SAY THIS IS TOO BIG. IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO DEAL WITH OR THE STATE GOVERNMENT. I WILL TELL YOU WHAT'S FRUSTRATING ON MY END IS LISTENING TO A LOT OF MY CONSTITUENTS WHO QUITE HONESTLY ARE -- BECAUSE OF THEIR REALITY, RIGHT, AND BECAUSE OF THEIR WORLD VIEW, ARE UNINTERESTED IN THE WORK THAT YOU ARE DOING AND THE REASONS FOR WHY YOU ARE DOING IT. AND THEY ARE FRUSTRATED THAT THEIR SOLUTION IS NOT THE ONE THAT WE'RE ADOPTING, RIGHT? AND SO THERE'S THIS -- IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IT WAS JOHN PODESTA WHEN HE WORKED FOR OBAMA SAID THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SALES AND POLICY IS THAT SALES IS TRYING TO GET PEOPLE WHAT THEY DON'T NEED BUT WANT; WHEREAS POLICY IS TRYING TO GET PEOPLE WHAT THEY DON'T WANT BUT VERY MUCH NEED. AND IN THIS INSTANCE, MY CONSTITUENTS ARE -- A LOT OF THEM, WAY TOO MANY OF THEM, WILL CALL FOR -- AND YOU'VE HEARD IT TOO.

I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU DO WITH THEM, JUST GET THEM AWAY FROM MY HOUSE.

I DON'T WANT TO SEE THEM. I'M TIRED OF IT. DON'T AUSTIN MY SAN ANTONIO.

THIS IS BECOMING LIKE SEATTLE. THESE ARE THE THINGS WE HEAR. WE ALSO HEAR THINGS LIKE LOOK, THE SOLUTION ISN'T POURING MORE MONEY INTO THIS, THE SOLUTION IS ROUND THEM UP AND ARREST THEM BECAUSE HOMELESSNESS IS ILLEGAL. HOMELESSNESS IS NOT ILLEGAL.

NOBODY WANTS TO BE HOMELESS, NOBODY WANTS TO SUFFER OR SLEEP IN THE RAIN OR BE COLD OUTSIDE. NOBODY WANTS TO DIE ALONE UNDER A BRIDGE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD MEDICINE. AND SO WE PUSH BACK, AND I'VE HEARD LORI SAY IT, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, ARRESTING SOMEBODY OFF THE STREET BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A HOME, THERE'S A WORD FOR THAT, IT'S CALLED KIDNAPPING.

AND WE CAN'T DO THAT. AND THE SOLUTION IS OUTRAGE, PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, MENTAL HEALTH CARE AND ALL THE WRAP-AROUND SERVICES.

THE DIFFICULT PART OF THIS AND I IMAGINE MY COLLEAGUES EXPERIENCE THIS TOO IS EXPLAINING THIS AND GETTING OUR CONSTITUENTS TO COME ON BOARD WITH THE PLAN.

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BUT IT IS INCUMBENT UPON US IN THE FACE OF THAT VISCERAL ANGER AND LACK OF APPETITE THAT WE DO IT ANYWAY. WITH ALL OF THAT, I'LL TELL YOU THAT I DO SEE THAT THE NEEDY -- NEED ECLIPSES THE RESOURCES AND YOU ARE DOING ALL YOU CAN TO LEVERAGE THOSE RESOURCES. AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH -- JOHN COURAGE IS PROBABLY THINKING ABOUT THE NEXT BUDGET AND THE ONE AFTER THAT, BUT WHAT MORE DO YOU NEED FROM THE CITY COUNCIL THAN YOU GOT FROM THE LAST BUDGET?

WHAT DO YOU SEE THE FUTURE AS? >> I THINK WHAT WE SAW IN THE LAST BUDGET WAS -- WHAT WE SAW IN THE LAST BUDGET WAS A COMMUNITY SURVEY THAT PRIORITIZED HOMELESSNESS AND IT PRIORITIZED ENCAMPMENTS AND CLEANUP.

NOW, WHAT THAT CLEANUP MEANT, IT COULD HAVE MEANT CLEANUP IN THE ENCAMPMENTS, BUT ALSO THE HOMELESSNESS. WE HAVE A RESPONSE TIME. IT'S GOING TO BE CLEANED UP IN TWO WEEKS. TWO, WE ARE GOING TO REMOVE 400 UNSHELTERED INDIVIDUALS FROM THE STREET IN FISCAL YEAR '24. THOSE ARE OUR TWO METRICS AND WE ARE GOING TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO THOSE. IF WE CAN MEET THOSE METRICS, HOPEFULLY WE GET MORE RESOURCES IN THE NEXT YEAR.

BUT PEOPLE WANT TO SEE PROGRESS. AND PREVIOUSLY I THINK WE'VE BEEN A LITTLE BIT DEFENSIVE. IT'S REALLY HARD, YOU KNOW, COVID, ALL OF THESE EXCUSES, BUT WE HAVE THE RIGHT RESOURCES TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND THOSE ARE THE TWO METRICS WE'RE FOCUSING ON. AND WE ARE WORKING ON A DASHBOARD THAT COME DECEMBER EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM WILL BE GETTING A DASHBOARD THAT SAYS THIS IS HOW MANY PEOPLE WE REMOVED FROM THE STREET AND SHELTER.

THIS IS HOW MANY WENT FROM SHELTER TO PERMANENT HOUSING.

THESE ARE HOW MANY ENCAMPMENTS WE CLEANED UP. WE WANT THAT TO SHARE THAT WITH YOUR CONSTITUENTS. ALSO WE WANT THE CONSTITUENTS TO HOLD US ACCOUNTABLE. IF THEY SEE A ENCAMP MANY, THEY CALL US, WE CLEAN IT UP IN TWO WEEKS. IF THEY SEE IT START TO REESTABLISH, CALL US.

ONE THING THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN PREVIOUS YEARS WITH THE ENCAMPMENT CLEANUP IS WE DID NOT HAVE HOUSING. WE HAVE HOUSING NOW. I THINK COUNCILMAN GAVITO SAID IT BEST, IT'S LIKE MOVING MARBLES IN A HOUSE. NOW WE CAN SAY YOU NEED A LOW-BARRIER SHELTER, WE CAN DO AN ASSAULT AND FIND -- AN ASSESSMENT.

HOPP WE'LL PROVE WE WERE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT THE STRATEGIES AND WE CAN GET MORE TOOLS TO MAKE A BIGGER DENT. THAT POINT IN TIME COUNT, I DO WANT TO SAY IT'S A DANGEROUS NUMBER. I HATE THAT THE POINT IN TIME COUNT IS THE HEADLINE IN THE NEWSPAPER EVERY YEAR BECAUSE IT'S ONE NIGHT AND THAT NIGHT COULD BE FREEZING COLD AND THAT TELLS US NOTHING.

AND SO WE NEED TO BE MORE PROACTIVE TO REALLY TELL YOU HOW MANY HOMELESS WE FEEL THAT WE HAVE IN SAN ANTONIO AND HOW MANY ARE UNSHUTTERED AND THAT SHOULD BE THE

DRIVING FORCE AND THESE METRICS SHOULD HELP US. >> PELÁEZ: I APPRECIATE THAT AND THANK YOU FOR THAT. GOING FORWARD I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I NEED.

I NEED THE NEXT SURVEY TO DRILL DOWN ON REALLY WHAT WAS THE PUBLIC TELLING US.

BECAUSE I MENTIONED THIS DURING THE SURVEY, THAT NUMBER ONE, HOMELESSNESS/HOMELESS OUTREACH. WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN? ARE THEY LIKE MY CONSTITUENTS SAYING I'M WORRIED ABOUT HOMELESSNESS, I DON'T WANT TO SEE IT ANYMORE? OR ARE THEY WORRIED ABOUT OUTREACH? I SUSPECT THAT MANY OF MY CONSTITUENTS, MANY OF YOURS, JOHN, MAYBE MANY OF YOURS, DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE HECK THE WORD OUTREACH MEANS. AND THAT OUTREACH IF YOU HAD BROKEN THAT OUT MAY HAVE BEEN NUMBER 16 ON THE LIST AS OPPOSED TO NUMBER ONE. I WISH IT WAS NUMBER ONE, BUT I'M A CYNIC AND I THINK, I THINK THAT IF WE DRILL DOWN ON THAT AND HAD BROKEN IT OUT WE WOULD LEARN MORE. MY REQUEST IS, YOU KNOW, FOR THE NEXT SURVEY, LET'S BREAK IT OUT. I WANT TO LEARN NOT JUST WHAT THE SENTIMENTS ARE, BUT I WANT TO LEARN ALSO WHAT THE PREJUDICEES AND BIASES ARE BECAUSE THAT WILL HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHERE WE GOT TO SHORE THAT UP AND WHERE THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES FOR EDUCATION AND MORE INFORMATION. THE SECOND THING IS I DO WANT TO ALSO BE ABLE TO TELL MY CONSTITUENTS, THIS IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WHAT AUSTIN IS DOING. BECAUSE I NEED THAT INFORMATION. THEY WILL SAY WHAT ARE YOU DOING DIFFERENT? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. CAN YOU GET ME THAT

INFORMATION? >> HOUSTON: WE CAN DO THAT AND I'VE GOT SEVEN EXPERTS IN THIS ROOM THAT WOULD BE HAPPY TO TELL YOU WHERE OUR SHORTFALLS ARE.

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BECAUSE THAT SURVEY GAVE US A SNAPSHOT. IT DIDN'T GO INTO THE POPULATIONS. AND THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT POPULATIONS THAT WE COULD BREAK DOWN AND HAVE A DIFFERENT STRATEGY FOR EACH OF THEM.

>> PELÁEZ: IT'S IMPORTANT [INAUDIBLE]. >> IT IS.

>> GARCIA: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER PELÁEZ. COUNCILMEMBER VIAGRAN.

>> VIAGRAN: THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL OF YOU WHO CAME TODAY AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK. THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS ISSUE TO ADDRESS HOMELESSNESS FOR A VERY LONG TIME. AND SO ANY TIME PEOPLE SAY THIS IS EASY FOR JUST TAKE THESE THREE STEPS, I'M LIKE WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR DECADES, AND WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.

AND WHAT WE SAW IS, YOU KNOW, AN OPIOID CRISIS REALLY IMPACT THAT AND A LACK OF MENTAL HEALTH THAT THE STATE DID NOT INVEST IN THAT HAS IMPACTED THIS TOO.

I AM REALLY GLAD THAT YOU ALL WENT OUT AND YOU ALL TALKED TO THE COMMUNITY.

THIS HAD BEEN AN ISSUE ON MOST MEETINGS, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETINGS, TOWN HALLS THAT THEY HAD BEEN THINKING OF. I THINK WHERE THE SEVEN EXPERTS ARE CONCERNED IS WE HAVE TO LOOK AT OUR VOCABULARY.

SAN ANTONIO NEEDS -- AND ITS RESIDENTS NEEDS TO START BECOMING EXPERTS IN THIS ISSUE. WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT THE HOMELESS IN THEIR COMMUNITY.

NOT ALL HOMELESS ARE ENGAGED IN CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. AND THE CRIMINALS THAT ARE OUT THERE IN THEIR COMMUNITY MAY NOT BE HOMELESS. THEY MAY HAVE SOMEPLACE TO GO. SO WHAT ARE WE EXACTLY TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE SAY WE WANT TO MOVE THE ENCAMPMENTS. WE WANT TO CLEAN UP OUR PUBLIC PARKS. DISTRICT 3, THE SOUTH SIDE, VERY SPECIFIC, I'VE HAD EXPERIENCES FIRSTHAND WITH PEOPLE COMING INTO MY YARD TRYING TO TAKE THINGS IN AND AROUND MY NEIGHBORHOOD. I TRY NOT TO CALL THEM HOMELESS BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE. WHAT I KNOW IS THAT THEY ARE TRESPASSING.

WHAT I KNOW IS THAT THEY ARE NOT UP TO ANY GOOD. AND YOU CALL THE POLICE AND YOU HANDLE THAT. WHEN PEOPLE COME AND ENTER VACANT AREAS WHICH WE HAVE, WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, AND I WANT THE OUTREACH COORDINATOR THERE.

BUT THEN WE ALSO NEED TO CALL THAT LANDLORD TO MAKE SURE THAT PROPERTY IS FENCED UP SO PEOPLE DON'T COME INTO THAT AREA. AND MIKE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TEAM BEING PART OF THAT. BUT I THINK WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN WE -- WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING, WE'RE REALLY GOING OUT THERE AND MAKING SURE WE'RE TRYING TO IDENTIFY THOSE PEOPLE THAT NEED AND WANT THE HELP.

AND WE KEEP ON GIVING THEM OPPORTUNITIES BECAUSE IT MIGHT TAKE THREE, FOUR, 20 TIMES BEFORE THEY DECIDE THEY WANT TO MAKE A CHANGE. BUT WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT WHAT THE RESIDENTS ARE SAYING IN THEIR SURVEYS, AND I THINK THAT REALLY IS THE CRIMINAL ELEMENT, THE FACT THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO BE AFRAID, BUT LETTING THEM KNOW NOT ALL HOMELESS ARE CRIMINALS.

AND NOT EVERYTHING THEY DO IS A VIOLATION OF THEIR LAW EVEN THOUGH THEY FEEL THAT.

BUT THERE IS SOME QUESTIONS I DO HAVE. ARE WE KEEPING TRACK IN TERMS OF THE URBAN ENCAMPMENT ABATEMENTS HOW MUCH THIS COSTS?

>> YES, COUNCILWOMAN, WE DO HAVE THAT FROM BOTH OUR OUTREACH STAFF AND THEN

WORKING WITH SOLID WASTE AND POLICE. >> VIAGRAN: WHAT I REALLY WANT TO TAKE OUT TO THE RESIDENTS IS PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, WHAT WE PUT INTO THAT AND WHAT WE PUT INTO THE HOUSING FOR ADDITIONAL SHELTERS IS -- IS GOING TO PAY OFF IN THE LONG RUN, AND TRYING TO GIVE THEM THE SERVICES WILL MEAN LESS ABATEMENTS IF WE DO THEM CORRECTLY. SO I THINK THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE KEEP TRACK OF THAT INFORMATION IN TERMS OF WHAT IT COSTS FOR PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AND TO GET PEOPLE SERVICES THERE, AND THEN WHAT IT COSTS TO CLEAN A ENCAMPMENT AND DO THE ABATEMENTS. THE OTHER IS I THINK WITH THE VOUCHER PROGRAMS IN TERMS OF INCENTIVEIZING SOME OF THESE LANDLORDS, TO START

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EVERYWHERE I GO AROUND ON THE SOUTH SIDE IN THE DISTRICT WE HAVE -- SOMEBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS THAT ONE HOMELESS PERSON THAT THEY ARE CONTINUALLY -- AND THAT'S WHY I NEED PEOPLE OUT THERE TELLING THE STORY. THEY KEEP ON GIVING MONEY TO OR THEY KEEP ON FEEDING OR THEY KNOW WHEN THEY ARE OFF THEIR MEDICATION.

AND SO THEY WANT TO HELP THEM. WE JUST NEED TO LET THE PUBLIC NOW HOW TO HELP THEM IN THE RIGHT WAY. AND I THINK GETTING OUR FAITH COMMUNITY INVOLVED IS GOING TO BE KEY TO THIS PROCESS TOO AS WE GO THROUGH IT. SO I WANT TO THANK YOU. I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE 90 FOR 90 DAYS. PLEASE LET MY OFFICE FOE WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP OR IF THERE'S STAKEHOLDERS IN DISTRICT 3 THAT WE CAN GET TO BE PART OF THAT.

BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FORKER 82 WORK AND YOUR EFFORT -- FOR YOUR WORK AND EFFORT. WE NEED TO TELL THE MESSAGE SAN ANTONIO HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS ISSUE AND SAN ANTONIO IS LEADING IN THIS ISSUE.

AND ANYBODY WHO SAYS CONTRARY DOESN'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT.

THANK YOU. >> GARCIA: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER VIAGRAN.

COUNCILMEMBER COURAGE, FOLLOWED BY COUNCILMEMBER CASTILLO.

>> COURAGE: THANK YOU, CHAIR. WHEN I HEAR US TALK ABOUT SENDING PEOPLE OUT DOING OUTREACH, I REALIZE THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CLEANING UP, ABATING AREAS WHERE THE HOMELESS ARE LIVING, I KNOW THAT'S IMPORTANT AS WELL. BUT YOU KNOW, TO A CERTAIN EXTENT BOTH OF THOSE ARE LIKE PUTTING LIP STICK ON A PIG BECAUSE THEY DON'T CURE THE PROBLEM. THEY MAKE IT LOOK BETTER TO THE PUBLIC.

THEY SAY OH, THEY ARE CLEANING UP THE ABATEMENT, OR THEY ARE GOING OUT AND TALKING TO THESE HOMELESS PEOPLE AND MOVING THEM AROUND.

BUT THE REAL PROBLEM, THE UNDERLYING PROBLEMS WE'RE NOT GETTING TO IS WHAT WE'VE GOT HERE, HOUSING. BUT WHY ARE PEOPLE UNHOUSED? IT'S BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING THROUGH EITHER AN ECONOMIC OR A HEALTH CRISIS, WHETHER IT'S PHYSICAL OR MENTAL.

AND THAT'S WHY PEOPLE ARE HOMELESS. THEY LOSE THEIR JOB, FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEY CAN'T SUPPORT THEIR FAMILY. THEY GO THROUGH DIVORCE OR THEY GO THROUGH A FAMILY CRISIS, ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE WHO ARE UNHOUSED. OR PEOPLE ARE GOING THROUGH MENTAL PROBLEMS FROM DRUGS, FROM ALCOHOL, FROM PTSD OR OTHER CRISIS AND THEY ARE NOT GETTING THE SERVICE THEY NEED AND THEY ARE PUT OUT ON THE STREET BY OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS OR ON THEIR OWN.

UNTIL WE CAN HELP RESOLVE THE ECONOMIC PROBLEMS AND THE PHYSICAL OR MENTAL PROBLEMS THAT PEOPLE HAVE, WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE HOMELESS PEOPLE.

THE OTHER SOLUTION TO THAT IS TO HAVE MOORHOUSE TO GO PUT THEM IN.

WE'VE GOT 3,000 PEOPLE WHO ARE HOMELESS AND HAVE ARE HAVEN FOR WE HAVE NO PLACE TO THE POINT IN TIME COUNT IS IMPORTANT -- IT GIVES US SOMETHING.

I'LL BET THERE ARE HUNDREDS MORE WHO WE'RE NOT COUNTING WHO ARE IN MANY CARS OR CAMPING OUT ON SOMEONE ELSE'S SOFA UNTIL THEY MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE. THE REAL PROBLEM THAT WE COULD HELP RESOLVE MOST OF ALL IS CREATING MORE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO FEEL SAFE, TO HAVE A PLACE TO STAY WHERE THEY CAN THEN START WORKING ON THEIR OWN PROBLEMS, WHETHER IT'S ECONOMIC OR PHYSICAL OR MENTAL. AND THAT'S GOING TO TAKE MORE SERVICE PROVIDERS THAN WE HAVE. THIS CITY NEEDS TO HAVE MORE PEOPLE IN MENTAL HEALTH FIELD AND COUNSELING AND THINGS LIKE THAT WHO ARE AVAILABLE TO HELP PEOPLE WHEN WE BRING THEM IN OFF THE STREET. THOSE ARE THE AREAS I THINK THE CITY NEEDS TO MAKE GREATER INVESTMENTS IN THIS YEAR, THE YEAR AFTER IF WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MAJOR IMPACT ON

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FORWARD. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

AND ON THAT POINT I WANT TO THANK THE HOUSING TRUST AND A LOT OF YOU ALL SIT ON THAT BOARD. IN THE PAST TWO MONTHS ALONE WE'VE TALKED WITH -- SPE SEFK CLI APARTMENTS. LAST MONTH WE BROKE GROUND IN D-2.

TODAY'S ACTION IS 1,000 MULTIFAMILY UNITS THAT WE'RE HOPING, RIGHT, SOME OF THESE GET SOME OF THESE APPLICATIONS. BUT, AGAIN, I'M LOOKING OVER SOME OF THE AREAS OF TOWN AND IT'S ALL OVER AND SPECIFICALLY FOR ALL AGE GROUPS AS WELL. SO I DO THINK THAT EVERY TIME WE HAVE THIS CONVERSATION AS WE TALK TO OUR CONSTITUENTS I THINK WE SHOULD ALSO LET THEM KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING TO BUILD UP THE AMOUNT OF HOUSES WE NEED BECAUSE WE'RE IN SUCH A CRUNCH, RIGHT? IN FACT, TO LAURIE'S POINT, WHEN THINK ABOUT THE NEXT BOND AND CROSSING OUR FINGERS ABOUT THE NEXT ONE -- IF WE DO GOOD WITH THIS BOND MAYBE THE VOTERS WILL GIVE A SECOND CHANCE. COUNCIL MEMBER WOMAN CASTILLO. CASTILLO: .

>> ARE THEY STILL GOING TO BE HOUSED THERE OR WILL THEY BE CONNECTED THROUGHOUT REACH

PARTER SNS. >> THE 45 OR SO -- THAT'S IN-FLOW, OUT-FLOW.

THEY WILL TRANSITION OVER IF THEY AER NOT SCHEDULED TO GET INTO PERMANENT HOUSING.

THEY'LL TAKE THE FIRST 40 CLIENTS OR SO. WE'VE HAD THE CONVERSATION WITH ROUTE REACH WORKERS -- OUTREACH WORKERS. THEY KNOW THE PROCESS.

THERE WILL BE A LITTLE MODIFICATION WITH HOW WE CENTRALIZE SHELTER BEDS.

THEY KNOW ABOUT THE RESOURCE. THEY'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT. THEY'RE PREPARING CLIENTS EVEN TO GET INTO THOSE OTHER ROOMS AS THEY OPEN UP AND COME ONLINE IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO.

>> FOR THE HOLIDAY INN, CAN YOU REMIND ME WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, WHAT QUALIFIES AS LOW BARRIER.

>> SURE. SO THE QUALIFICATIONS ARE YOU HAVE TO BE UNSHELTERED AND YOU HAVE TO BE ENGAGED WITH A STREET OUTREACH WORKER REFERRED FROM THEM TO THIS SHELTER.

THOSE ARE REALLY IT. I MEAN, WE WILL CHECK REGISTERED SEX OFFENDER STATUS, BUT THERE'S

NO OTHER REQUIREMENTS FOR SOBRIETY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. >> YOU MUST BE DEFINED AS

CHRONICALLY HOMELESS AS WELL. >> MANY ARE. WE ARE TAKING FOLKS THAT HAVE JUST UNDER A YEAR. THAT WOULD BE THE DEFINING -- THE VAST MAJORITY ARE

CHRONICALLY HOMELESS. >> THANK YOU. MY LAST QUESTION IS DOES PD SHARE INFORMATION WITH THE NO-TRESPASSING AFFIDAVITS -- A SHEET WHERE NO-TRESPASSING AFFIDAVITS HAVE BEEN FILED? I READ AN ARTICLE ABOUT SOMEONE PASSING AT THE COUNTY JAIL AND IT WAS CITED THAT PERSON HAD MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES AND WERE UNHOUSED AND HAD NO REASON TO BE AT THE COUNTY JAIL. THERE WERE OTHER SERVICES THE INDIVIDUAL NEEDED AND UNFORTUNATELY THEY PASSED AWAY AT THE JAIL AND WHAT INITIATED THEM BEING ARRESTED IS THEY WERE VIOLATING A NO-TRESPASSING AFFIDAVIT. I'M WONDERING IF THAT DATA IS SHARED -- I KNOW YOU'RE CONNECTING INDIVIDUALS TO SERVICES BUT TO WHERE THERE'S

ADDITIONAL OUTREACH TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO LEAVE THAT PROPERTY. >> YEAH.

IT WOULD COME UP IF WE RECEIVE A COMPLAINT OR CALL ABOUT A SITE FOR POTENTIAL ABATEMENT.

WE WOULD WORK WITH PD. MANY OF OUR ENCAMPMENTS ARE ON PUBLIC PROPERTY WHERE THIS IS A

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WHEN WE WORK WITH POLICE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, YES, THAT WOULD COME UP.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHAIR. >> COUNCIL MEMBER PELAEZ.

>> I TRUST YOU BUT MY JOB IS ALSO TO VERIFY. SO I WANT TO DO MORE THAN JUST ASK YOU TO OFFLINE TELL ME HOW WE'RE DIFFERENT THAN AUSTIN OR OTHER CITIES WORKING TOWARDS THIS. AND CHAIRWOMAN, I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD THING TO HAVE A PRESENTATION SOON TO DO A SIDE-BY-SIDE COMPARISON BETWEEN US AND OTHER CITIES STRUGGLING WITH THIS AND HOW WE'RE DIFFERENT. I'M SURE WHATEVER SLIDE YOU PUT WILL VALIDATE WE'RE BETTER. BUT I WANT TO KNOW WHAT OTHER LEVERS WE'RE NOT PULLING FROM BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO TELL MY CONSTITUENTS, RIGHT? AND I NEED THAT. THE SECOND THING IS IS, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO ENCOURAGE US TO ALSO SPEAK WITH THE CONVENIENCE STORE COMMUNITY. THE -- YOU KNOW, THEY ALL LIVE IN MY DISTRICT. EVEN THOUGH THEY GOT CONVENIENCE STORES ALL OVER SAN ANTONIO, THEY CHOOSE TO LIVE IN DISTRICT 8. THEY HAVE A UNIQUE EXPERIENCE THAT MAY BE DIFFERENT THAN A LOT OF OUR EXPERIENCES. WHILE WE DRIVE BY AND SHAKE OUR HEADS AND SAY ANOTHER ENCAMPMENT, MANY OF THESE HOMELESS FOLKS -- PARTICULARLY IN THE GRIPS IN PRETTY SERIOUS CRISES AND DRUG ADDICTIONS -- SPEND A LOT OF TIME AT THESE STORES AND CAUSE DISTURBANCES AND ARE NOT JUST AN ANNOYANCE BUT PRESENT A DANGER.

I KNOW WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THIS BUT SOMETIMES UT'S GROUND ZERO AND VIOLENCE IS A REAL THING FOR THEM. I TALK TO THESE MEN -- MANY OF THESE MEN AND WOMEN AND THEY EXPRESS COMPASSION. A LONG TIME AFTER THESE INCIDENTS HAVE OCCURRED.

MOST OF THE TIME THEY EXPRESS REAL ANGER AND, YOU KNOW, I'LL TELL YOU, I BELIEVE THEM.

MY WIFE AND I WERE ASSAULTED IN SAN FRANCISCO ONE TIME BY A GUY WHO THREATENED TO STAB US.

MY KIDS WERE ACCOSTED BY A HOMELESS GUY IN SEATTLE WHO WAS TRYING TO BREAK THE WINDOWS OF THE CAR WHILE MY WIFE AND I WERE INSIDE A HOTEL TRYING TO CHECK US OUT.

I'LL TELL YOU, IT TOOK YEARS FOR ME TO FEEL A LITTLE COMPASSION AFTERWARDS.

MORE THAN ANYTHING I WANTED TO STRANGLE WHOEVER DOING THIS TO MY FAMILY.

I DO WANT YOU TO VISIT. THEY HAVE A PROBLEM. THEY HAVE A REALLY -- SET OF CONCERNS MAYBE WE'RE NOT HEARING THAT WE OUGHT TO AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, ADD TO OUR LIST OF

CONCERNS. >> YOUR FIRST SUGGESTION WE CAN DEFINITELY COME IN AND SEE WHAT WE'RE SEEING AUSTIN, DALLAS, HOUSTON DOING. AND I CAN SPEAK TO THE CONVENIENCE STORE ISSUE. WE ARE IN COMMUNICATION WITH THOSE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA BUT CITY WIDE THERE'S A DISCONNECT. WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT AT A FUTURE MEETING AS WELL.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN PELAEZ -- IT WAS BROUGHT UP A LITTLE BIT OF SAFETY, RIGHT, AND SO I BELIEVE INTEGRATING -- KIND OF LIKE THE SAFETY IN THE DIFFERENT AREAS -- WHAT ARE WE DOING TO MAKE SURE THE AREAS WHERE WE'RE FOCUSING ON FEEL SAFE AND ALL.

I'LL GIVE YOU THE EXAMPLE -- I MENTIONED WHEN I WAS A BABY MY FAMILY GOT EVICTED -- MY PARENTS AND I GOT EVICTED AND SO MY PARENTS FOUND AN APARTMENT AND THEN THEY DIDN'T FEEL SAFE, SO THEY CHOSE TO LIVE WITH A FAMILY MEMBER. WE WERE LUCKY BECAUSE WE HAD A FAMILY MEMBER THAT WOULD TAKE US IN. AGAIN, LIKE A LOT OF THESE FOLKS ARE MAKING THAT CHOICE, RIGHT, UNFORTUNATELY ALSO TO STAY ON THE STREETS BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT THEIR KID SEEING A CERTAIN TYPE OF ACTIVITY IN CERTAIN APARTMENTS THAT THEY COULD

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BEFORE WE CONCLUDE I'D LIKE TO BRING UP THE CONTINUUM OF CARE PARTNERS BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN SITTING AND I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT YOU ALL ARE HERE AND EVEN IF YOU JUST STAND AND WAVE AND BE RECOGNIZED FOR YOUR WORK. YOU HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF TASKS, BUT I APPRECIATE YOU. SO JUST STAND AND WAVE TO US AND JUST KNOW WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU ALL. AND THERE YOU ARE. SO -- AWESOME.

THANKS FOR ALL THE WORK. THAT BRINGS US TO OUR FINAL ITEM.

THANK YOU FOR THE WONDERFUL DISCUSSION, EVERYONE. OUR FINAL ITEM IS BRIEFING OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON A PLAN -- DID WE MEET ACTION ON THE LAST ONE? NO, IT WAS JUST A BRIEFING.

BRIEFING AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE SHORT TERM ORDINANCE. MICHAEL, THE FLOOR IS YOURS.

>> THANK YOU AGAIN, CHAIRWOMAN, AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS. YOU ASKED ME TO COME THIS MONTH TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE ITEMS WE TALKED ABOUT. I WAS HERE LAST MONTH.

YOU ASKED ME TO COME BACK. I'M HERE. REMEMBER, WE ALL DISCUSSED AND EVEN SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE STOOD UP -- SEVERAL LEADERSHIPS STOOD UP AND SAID THE ORDINANCE IS WORKING. HOWEVER, THERE ARE A FEW IMPORTANT ISSUES WE'D LIKE THE CITY STAFF AND POLICY LEADER SHUP TO LOOK AT -- THINGS LIKE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX, PERMIT COMPLIANCE, CODE VIOLATION, ENFORCEMENT, ET CETERA. MY TEAM AND I TOOK THAT BACK.

WE ACTUALLY MET WITH SOME OF THOSE COMMUNITY MEMBERS. YOU HEARD THAT TALKED ABOUT.

WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE PUT A PLAN TOGETHER THAT MIGHT WORK. HERE IT IS.

JUST A REMINDER FOR ANYBODY WHO WASN'T HERE LAST MONTH THIS ORDINANCE WAS APPROVED IN 2018.

WE'RE FIVE YEARS INTO IT. IT'S RENTAL UNDER 30 DAYS. WE REQUIRE A PERMIT AND MONTHLY PAYMENT OF THE HOT. THERE ARE TWO TYPES. TYPE ONE -- THE PRIMARY RESIDENTS -- OWNER/OPERATOR LIVES ON THE PROPERTY AND RENTS OUT PART OF THE PROPERTY.

TYPE TWO -- THE PROPERTY IS NOT OCCUPIED. THEY RENT OUT THE WHOLE UNIT BUT DON'T LIVE THERE. AND WE HAVE A VERY REASONABLE $100 FOR THREE-YEAR PERMIT FEE.

THESE ARE THE NUMBERS WE SHOWED YOU LAST MONTH. THEY'VE BEEN ADJUSTED A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE WE'VE ADDED A VERY MORE PERMITS. STILL 3200-PLUS PERMITS.

MOST IN DISTRICTS ONE AND TWO. BUT IT IS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. EVERY AREA OF TOWN HAS SHORT-TERM RENTALS WITH PERMITS. SO HERE IS OUR PROPOSAL. BASED ON THE FEEDBACK AND REALLY BASED ON WHEN WE DEVELOPED THE ORDINANCE IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE A GRAUP OF STAKEHOLDERS -- GROUP OF STAKEHOLDERS THAT IS BALANCED AND THAT REPRESENTS A LOT OF DIFFERENT INTERESTS IN THIS CONVERSATION. SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING ABOUT 16 TO 20 MEMBERS PLUS OR MINUS. WE DON'T WANT IT TOO SMALL, DON'T WANT IT TOO BIG BUT WE THINK ABOUT 16 TO 20 WOULD TO IT AND WE WOULD WANT BALANCED REPRESENTATION.

THAT WOULD INCLUDE OWNERS AND OPERATORS OF TYPE ONES AND TWOS. WE WOULD INVITE THE HOTEL AND LODGING PLATFORMS. WE WERE ASKED -- I THINK THIS IS A GOOD IDEA TO INCLUDE TEXAS ORGANIZING PROJECT, TEXAS HOUSERS -- THEY'VE BEEN HELPFUL IN A TOGETHER. AND THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY -- BOARD OF REALTORS, APARTMENT ASSOCIATION -- WE THINK BY PUTTING A GROUP TOGETHER LIKE THIS AND HAVING CONVERSATION ABOUT THE KEY AREAS IS IMPORTANT AND IT SHOULD BE BALANCED. WITH THIS TASK FORCE, THE ONE THING I LIKE ABOUT COMING TO THIS -- ONE OF THE MANY THINGS I LIKE ABOUT COMING TO THIS COMMITTEE IS YOU WILL GIVE ME A DEADLINE. WE'RE NOT DOING A WHOLE ORDINANCE. I LIKE THE FACT THAT WITH THE DIRECTION FROM THIS COMMITTEE WE THINK WE CAN GET THIS BACK TO YOU IN SIX TO NINE MONTHS AFTER GOOD DISCUSSION WITH THE GROUP.

AGAIN, THE FOCUS AREAS. LET'S BE CLEAR -- WE DON'T BELIEVE AND WE DON'T THINK IT'S

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PERMIT COMPLIANCE, HOT PAYMENT COMPLIANCE, PERMIT FEES, PARTY VIOLATIONS, ET CETERA.

AND THEN WORKING WITH THE PLATFORMS AND SOME OF THEIR OBLIGATIONS ENSURING THERE ARE PERMITS ON THOSE POSTED WOULD BE SOME OF THOSE TOPICS. DURING THIS SIX TO NINE MONTH PROCESS WE WOULD USE A VARIETY OF WAYS TO OUTREACH. WE PUT UP HERE -- WE USE SURVEYS AND SOCIAL MEDIA BLASTS AND COMMUNITY MEETINGS AS WELL OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

WE CAN DO MEETINGS WITH NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT AND A LOT OF TRAINING OF WHAT THE ORDINANCE IS OR WHAT IT COULD BECOME WHILE WE TACKLE SOME OF THE FOCUS AREAS.

PROJECTED TIME LINE WE WOULD INCLUDE IS IF WE GET THIS PASSED TODAY AND IN THIS MANNER AS WE'RE PROPOSING WE WOULD CREATE A TASK FORCE, HOLD SOME TASK FORCE MEETINGS OVER THE NEXT THREE OR FOUR MONTHS. HOPEFULLY BY MAY HAVE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS BY THE TASK FORCE AND BRING IT TO SOME PUBLIC MEETINGS IN THE SUMMERTIME AND BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE AFTER GOING THROUGH PROBABLY -- BACK TO YOU IN MID TO LATE SUMMER AND IF THERE IS A PROPOSED ORDINANCE CHANGE BY THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR. THIS PUBLIC OUTREACH THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE THING. THAT'S OUR RECOMMENDATION, IS TO CREATE A TASK FORCE WHERE WE WOULD HAVE, YO PEOPLE WHO HELPET SOME NEW FOLKS AND BRING BACK SOME RECOMMENDATIONS.

WITH THAT I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU.

YOU GO FROM BEST IMPROVED TO GOLD STAR STUDENT. I APPRECIATE -- BUT THE DEADLINE, I THINK -- YOU SAID SIX TO NINE MONTHS SO THAT'S PERFECTLY AT SUMMER.

I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR WHAT FEEDBACK MY COLLEAGUES HAVE, BUT I THINK -- LIKE I SAID, YOU HAVE NAILED TASK FORCES. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. ALSO, YOU RETURNED REALLY QUICKLY SO I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. I KNOW IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE BALANCED DIVERSITY. I APPRECIATE THAT YOU ARE WORKING ON THAT, AND WERE YOU

ABLE TO MEET WITH DISTRICTS ONE AND TWO. >> YES.

WE SPOKE TO BOTH DISTRICTS ONE AND TWO. LET THEM KNOW THIS WAS COMING OUT OF THIS COMMITTEE AND WE WOULD LIKE HEAVY INVOLVEMENT BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE MAJORITY

OF THE PERMANENT ONES IN THEIR AREA. >> GREAT.

I WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER THE TASK FORCE REVIEWING PERMIT REVENUE, RIGHT? SO I'M NOT SURE IF THOSE ARE REQUIRED BY ORDINANCE TO STAY AT DSD BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IF WE COULD SEND SOME OF THAT OFF TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUND AND MAYBE ADD A DOLLAR CHARGE TO -- JUST SOME THOUGHTS. I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE -- WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO IN THAT REGARD IN REVENUE. I DID JUST WANT TO ADDRESS THAT. I'M EXCITED ABOUT YOU ALL LOOKING A LITTLE BIT MORE INTO -- YOU CALLED IT A "GRANNY FLAG." IT WAS ALSO CALLED A MOTHER-IN-LAW SUITE. ONE DAY I HOPE TO BE LIVING IN ONE OF THOSE WITH MY KID -- NOT WITH MY KID BUT BEHIND HIM SOMEWHERE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE'LL START WITH COUNCIL COLL

COLLEAGUES. >> MIKE, YOU'VE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH TO KNOW AND I HAVEN'T BEEN HERE A FRACTION OF WHAT YOU'VE BEEN HERE. BUT WE'VE BOTH BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH THAT -- IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING A PARTY HOUSE NEXT DOOR TO HEAR WE'VE COME UP WITH A TASK FORCE, RIGHT? AND THEY'RE NOT WRONG.

ALL PEOPLE HAVE TASK FORCE FATIGUE OR THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEIR CURRENT SITUATION SEEMS LIKE AN EASY FIX. CAN SOMEONE JUST COME AND SHUT DOWN THE -- NEXT DOOR, RIGHT? I HAVE TO ONCE IN A WHILE CHECK MYSELF AND REMIND MYSELF WHO I WORK FOR.

MY CLIENTS OR MY CUSTOMERS -- I PROMISE THEM EVERY TWO YEARS THAT MY CUSTOMER ARES THE NEIGHBORHOODS, RIGHT, AND THAT T THEIR QUIET ENJOYMENT OF THEIR HOUSE IS MY PRIORITY TOO, RIGHT? AND, YOU KNOW, MY CUSTOMERS ARE NOT SHORT-TERM RENTAL OWNERS AND

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COOL STORY, BRO, BUT FOLLOW THE RULES. I'VE REACHED THE POINT IN SIX AND A HALF YEARS LATER WHERE I FEEL LIKE THE MAJORITY -- OVERWHELMING MAJORITY KNOW WHAT THE RULES ARE AND FOLLOW THE RULES. AT THIS POINT WHAT WE'VE GOT IS A LOT OF FOLKS WHO ARE UNDERINFORMED, RIGHT? AND WHO KNOW THE RULES AND DON'T CARE, AND I THINK MAYBE THAT'S THE UNIVERSE OF FOLKS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, RIGHT? WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO STRUGGLE AT CITY HALL WITH GETTING MORE E AND MORE PEOPLE TO KNOW THE RULES, RIGHT? AND FOR THE MOST PART PEOPLE FOLLOW THE RULES ONCE THEY KNOW ABOUT IT. BUT THE WORST CASE SCENARIOS WE HAVE ARE SCOFF LAWS AND PEOPLE WHO JUST DON'T REALLY CARE AND OPERATE UNDER THE RADAR WHICH IS WHY I'M THANKFUL WE HAVE THE SERVICE PROVIDER OUT THERE HUNTING FOR PIRATE STR'S. THAT'S A GOOD THING AND I WANT TO SEE WHAT THE RESULT IS OF THAT INVESTMENT OF HUNTING FOR SCOFF LAWS.

BUT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, MY -- I'VE GROWN IMPATIENT FOR A SOLUTION TO SHUT DOWN PARTY HOUSES. I'M SICK OF IT. AND, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE HAVE MOTHER-IN-LAW SUITES AND THAT'S GREAT. BUT IF YOU'RE NOT FOLLOWING THE RULES, THEN IT'S OUR JOB TO GET YOU TO THAT PLACE. IF YOU STILL DON'T WANT TO FOLLOW THE RULES, IT'S OUR JOBS TO PULL THE TRIGGER. AND I FEEL LIKE WE'VE BEEN SHY TO PULL THE TRIGGER SO MANY YEARS AND I WOULD HATE FOR US TO SPEND ANOTHER SIX AND A HALF YEARS BEFORE WE SAY ENOUGH IS ENOUGH BECAUSE THEN I FEAR WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER TASK FORCE ON HOW TO PULL THE TRIGGER. I WANT TO SEE SOMETHING COME OUT THAT IS MORE THAN JUST A PLAN OF MORE INFORMATION AND GETTING THINGS OUT TO THE PUBLIC. I WANT TO HEAR A PLAN OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO CRACK DOWN AND BRING PEOPLE INTO COMPLIANCE. I RECOGNIZE THAT SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOING TO BE INSTANCES WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT A HEAD ON A STAKE AND SAY TO PEOPLE THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU DON'T, YOU KNOW, COME AROUND AND, YOU KNOW, JOIN -- IF YOU DON'T SEE JESUS AND COME TO US AND SEE THE LIGHT SO THAT YOU CAN PLAY WITH THE REST OF THE KIDS WHO ARE PLAYING BY THE RULES. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE.

>> ABSOLUTELY. I THINK THE PLAN I HAVE WITH THE TASK FORCE -- IT'S INTENDED TO SEE IF WE NEED TO MODIFY THE ORDINANCE IN ANY PARTICULAR -- AND ANY PARTICULAR POLICIES WE'RE USING RIGHT NOW. I WILL TELL YOU AND I THINK I MENTIONED AT THE LAST MEETING WHICH WAS MORE -- THIS PAST YEAR WE HAVE SHUT DOWN SEVERAL PARTY HOUSES.

THEY'RE NOT UNDER THE THREE-STRIKE RULE. THERE ARE SOME VIOLATIONS THAT ARE. YOU'RE RIGHT -- WE'RE BEYOND THE INITIAL PHASE, WHICH IS EDUCATION, COMING INTO COMPLIANCE. I AGREE.

PARTY HOUSES OR SHORT-TERM RENTALS USED AS PARTY HOUSES -- WE HAVE SHUT DOWN -- WE HAD IT LAST MONTH BUT WE NEED TO BE STRONG ON THAT. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM OUR RESIDENTS THAT COME TO US AS WELL, AND THEY REPORT IT. NOT ALL OF THEM ARE AS EASY AS

THAT. TO YOUR POINT, I AGREE. >> MOST OF MY RESIDENTS ARE RESOLVED. I THINK THEY'VE COME AROUND. THE VAST MAJORITY OF COMPLAINTS WE GET ARE PARTY HOUSE COMPLAINTS. THIS MAY BE FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY -- INSTEAD OF CHANGING DOWN INDIVIDUAL OWNERS AND LLC'S AND WORRYING ABOUT THEY CHANGED OWNERSHIP, WHY NOT JUST GO AFTER THE ADDRESS AND SAY -- BECAUSE WE KNOW IT HAPPENS.

PEOPLE WILL SWITCH THE NAME OF THE LLC. IS THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING -- JUST

LOOKING AT ADRESS OR CHANGING INDIVIDUALS AND LLC'S. >> IT'S A LITTLE OF BOTH.

WE PUT A CLEAR PROVISION IN THERE THAT THE PERMIT YOU GET IS NOT TRANSFERABLE.

YOU HAVE TO REAPPLY AND GET A NEW PERMIT. WE HAVE FOUND -- AND ONE OF THE CHALLENGES -- ONE OF THE FOCUS AREAS -- I MIGHT HAVE SKIPPED OVER IT.

IF YOU SELL IT TO SOMEONE ELSE INDIVIDUAL, WE EVENTUALLY GET WORD OF THAT.

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LOOKED AT BY THIS GROUP. >> THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN VIAGRAN.

>> THANK YOU FOR LETTING US KNOW IT'S ONE STRIKE YOU'RE OUT FOR PARTY HOUSES.

LAST WEEK THEY MADE SOME VALID CASES AND IF WE COULD KEEP THAT INFORMATION TO SEE IF WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT KEEP ON MOVING FROM HOUSE TO HOUSE AND MAKE THAT ONE BIG WEEKEND, YOU KNOW, MONEY AND THEN JUST -- OH, GREAT. WE LOST IT. I THINK AS WE HAVE MORE EVENTS COMING -- THE FINAL FOUR, THOSE BIG CONCERTS -- WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE COMMUNICATING THAT THIS IS NOT A CITY WHERE YOU CAN TAKE OVER A HOUSE AND HAVE A PARTY.

AND I ALSO THINK THE ONES THAT ARE RENTING TO DO THE WEDDINGS, ONE-STRIKE YOU'RE OUT -- I MEAN, THAT -- AS A PARTY PLANNER WE NEED TO IDENTIFY WHO THOSE ARE. THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.

I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU SIX MONTHS AND IF YOU NEED AN EXTENSION FOR NINE.

I'D LIKE TO SEE YOU BACK HERE IN SIX MONTHS AND IF YOU NEED AN EXTENSION FOR NINE.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE -- AND I KNOW THERE'S A -- KIND OF A BALANCE BETWEEN ASKING AND -- DEBBIE WOULD BE LIKE DON'T ASK THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO APPOINT. MAYBE GETTING COUNCIL MEMBER SUGGESTIONS FOR APPOINTEES OR LIST OF DESIGNEES WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE TO BE PART OF THE COMMITTEE AS YOU PUT TOGETHER THE TASK FORCE. I WOULD LIKE THEM TO TALK ABOUT INCREASE POSSIBLY IN THE REGISTRATION FEES. AND I WOULD LIKE TO -- AND I BROUGHT THIS UP BEFORE. IF -- ALONG WITH LEGAL WE COULD LOOK AT A NEIGHBORHOOD IS DESIGNATED HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT, HAS A TIRZ, A CULTURAL ZONE -- IF WE CAN LOOK AT BRINGING DOWN THE PERCENTAGE FROM 12.5 TO MAYBE 10 PER CENT OR EVEN LOWER.

BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME VERY SIGNIFICANT CULTURAL ZONES.

WE HAVE THE WORLD HERITAGE AREA. I HAVE TIRZ AREAS THAT WE'RE REALLY FOCUSING ON HAVING COMMUNITIES AND SCHOOLS AND NEIGHBORHOODS THAT I MAY NOT WANT MORE SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

AND NOT THAT ALL SHORT-TERM RENTALS PARK ON THE STREET BUT I HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WANT TO FOCUS ON WALKABILITY. WHEN IT'S A SHORT-TERM RENTAL, PEOPLE COME AND PARK IN THE STREETS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT AND SEE IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US IN CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS THAT COME IN. I KNOW IN DISTRICT THREE THE CONCERN -- THE CONCERN CITY WIDE IS THERE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT REGISTERED SO I'M GOING TO HAVE YOU COME INTO DISTRICT THREE AND TALK TO OUR COMMUNITY ABOUT HOW THEY CAN -- IF THEY THINK THERE'S A SHORT-TERM RENTAL, HOW THEY CAN REPORT THEM. IF THEY HAVE A SHORT-TERM RENTAL AND THEY'RE NOT REGISTERED, HOW THEY CAN GET REGISTERED AND MAYBE GIVE THEM A GRACE PERIOD TO DO THAT.

ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS FOUND SOMEONE OPERATE AGO SHORT-TERM RENTAL THAT -- OPERATING A SHORT-TERM RENTAL THAT HADN'T REGISTERED AND WE PO POLITELY SUGGESTED THEY DO THAT AND THEY DID. IT IS THE TYPE TWO I'M CONCERNED WITH AND THE FACT THAT WE'VE SEEN TRENDS IN OVERSEAS AND IN DIFFERENT CITIES WHERE IT -- WHERE AN LLC WILL COME IN AND THEY WILL -- THAT'S THE OTHER CONCERN I HAVE IS THAT OF THE 12.5 PER CENT IT'S ONE LLC THAT OWNS ALL THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK FOR THAT TOO. I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT COMMITTEE ADDRESS THAT.

SO SIX MONTHS WOULD BE IDEAL AND YOU COULD GET -- YOU COULD COME BACK TO US AND MAYBE WE'D GIVE

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>> COUNCIL MEMBER CASTILLO. >> THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. I'M GOING TO REITERATE ON THE FOCUS AREA I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A GOOD AMOUNT OF TIME SPENT -- WE HAD A BRIEFING ON HOUSING AND UNHOUSED AND HOW WE HAVE THE GOAL AND THE PLAN BUT IT COSTS MONEY, RIGHT? AND SHORT-TERM RENTALS TOO -- IN PARTICULAR IS WHERE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A FOCUS IN THAT IT'S A WHOLE UNIT AND POTENTIALLY AN ADU FROM THE HOUSING STOCK. IT'S CAUSING PROBLEMS THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AN EMPHASIS OF PERMIT FEES.

I GUESS -- YOU MENTIONED SIX MONTHS WOULD BE ADEQUATE TO COME BACK? YOU THINK -- DEPENDING ON THE MAKE-UP AND HOW QUICK WE GET FOLKS ON BOARD TO SERVE AS A

STAKEHOLDER. >> I SAID SIX TO NINE MONTHS. I THINK IF WE WERE GIVEN DIRECTION TO COME BACK IN SIX MONTHS I THINK WE'D HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE OF WHERE WE'RE AT IF NOT FINALIZED BY THEN, SO I THINK SIX MONTHS IS PROBABLY OKAY.

>> ALL RIGHT. GREAT. I THINK I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF SIX MONTHS IF THAT'S FINE WITH MIKE, AND THEN FOR THE MIKE-UP OF THE STAKEHOLDER GROUP, I THINK THE SAME FORMULA THAT WAS USED FOR THE -- THE INDUSTRY AND THEN IN THIS AREA STAKEHOLDER GROUPS THAT REPRESENT TENANTS WOULD BE IMPACTFUL. IT WAS A FORMULA THAT WORKED WHERE THERE WAS CONSENSUS. NOT EVERYONE WAS HAPPY BUT ULTIMATELY IT GOT US TO A GOOD PRODUCT. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND. THOSE ARE ALL MY COMMENTS.

THANK YOU, CHAIR. >> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE.

>>COURAGE: I'M GOING TO GO TO SLIDE FOUR. THAT'S WHERE WE SEE THE RENTALS LISTED BY DEPARTMENT. YOU SAY 3200. THAT'S APPROXIMATELY HOW MANY ARE REGISTERED TODAY WITH THE CITY AS FAR AS YOUR DEPARTMENT KNOWS.

>> YES. >>COURAGE: WHAT DO WE THINK IS ALSO THE UNREGISTERED NUMBER IN

THE CITY. >> WE THINK THERE'S ANOTHER 12 TO 1500 THAT HAVE OPERATED AS

STR THIS YEAR. >>COURAGE: OKAY. THERE'S A LOT OUT THERE STILL THAT ARE UNACCOUNTED FOR. THAT'S PART OF MY CONCERN ABOUT HOW WE MOVE FORWARD ON THIS.

THE NEXT SLIDE TALKED ABOUT THE TASK FORCE. I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.

I WOULD RECOMMEND THERE BE 20 MEMBERS, AND I WOULDN'T SAY 16. I LOOK AT IT THIS WAY.

YOU WANT TO HAVE AT LEAST TWO SHORT-TERM RENTAL OPERATORS, AT LEAST TWO PROPERTY MANAGERS WHO USUALLY OVERSEE MULTIPLE SHORT-TERM RENTALS. YOU WANT TO HAVE AT LEAST TWO HOTEL LODGING ASSOCIATION REPRESENTATIVES, TWO FROM THE PLATFORMS -- AIRBNB, ONE OF THE OTHERS. TWO FROM THE REAL ESTATE COMMUNITY.

THERE'S -- IF YOU HAD TWO FROM EACH OF THOSE, THERE'S TEN RIGHT THERE.

I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE AT LEAST AN EQUAL NUMBER OF PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY, SO I WOULD GO BACK TO NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS AND SAY YOU WANT TO HAVE AT LEAST SIX NEIGHBORHOODS REPRESENTED BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THERE'S 20 NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE FIGHTING WITH HAVING A LOT OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN THERE. THERE OUGHT TO BE AT LEAST TWO THAT THE TEXAS ORGANIZING PROGRAM CAN APPOINT AND THE TEXAS HOUSERS CAN APPOINT. THAT GIVES YOU REPRESENTATIVES OF THE COMMUNITY, TEN, AND OF THE INDUSTRY, SO TO SPEAK, TEN. WE WANT TO HAVE BALANCE.

I DON'T WANT TO SEE ONE SIDE TOO FAVORED OVER THE OTHERS. THE SIX MONTHS I THINK SHOULD BE ENOUGH TIME AND GIVE US ANOTHER TWO OR THREE MONTHS TO GET IT BACK TO COMMITTEE AND FINALLY TO COUNCIL FOR ANY FINAL APPROVAL. THE NEXT SLIDE TALKED ABOUT -- I LIKE -- NOT A COMPLETE REWRITE OF THE CURRENT ORDINANCE. IN CONTINENTAL -- THE CONTINENTAL CONGRESS MET -- NOT TO REWRITE THEM BUT TO TOUCH THEM UP A LITTLE BIT AND WE ENDED UP A YEAR LATER WITH A NEW CONSTITUTION. I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULDN'T LOOK AT MAJOR CHANGES, OVERHAULS TO THE CURRENT ONE WE HAVE TODAY. SOMETHING I DON'T SEE IN HERE IS USING THE ASSOCIATIONS TO TRACK

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SOMETHING ELSE THAT WAS BROUGHT TO MY MIND BY A PERSON IN THE COMMUNITY -- AND YOU CAN HELP ME -- CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. IF I LIVE IN MY HOME AND THE PERSON ON MY RIGHT WANTS TO GO AHEAD AND HAVE A SHORT-TERM RENTAL AND THEY'RE GOING TO LIVE THERE BUT RENT OUT A ROOM,

THERE'S NO ORDINANCE AGAINST THAT, CORRECT. >> NO.

IT'S ALLOWED AS A TYPE ONE SHORT-TERM RENTAL. THEY WOULD GET A PERMIT BUT THEY

WOULD BE ALLOWED TO DO THAT. >>COURAGE: IF THE HOUSE TO MY LEFT WENT UP FOR SALE AND SOMEONE BOUGHT IT AND WAS GOING TO USE IT AS A TYPE TWO SHORT-TERM RENTAL AND THERE

WASN'T ANOTHER ON EITHER SIDE, THAT'S OKAY, RIGHT. >> YES, IT IS.

>>COURAGE: NOW I HAVE SHORT-TERM RENTALS ON EITHER SIDE.

SAY THE GUY ACROSS FROM MY HOUSE SELLS HIS HOUSE AND THE GUY WHO BUYS IT WANTS TO MAKE IT A SHORT-TERM RENTAL BUT HE'S NOT GOING TO LIVE THERE. IS THAT OKAY.

>> IT COULD BE. >>COURAGE: ALL RIGHT. SAY THE GUY BEHIND ME OWNS THE HOUSE BUT HE WANTS TO RENT OUT A ROOM, SO IT'S A SHORT-TERM RENTAL BUT HE'S LIVING THERE.

COULD HE DO THAT. >> YES. >>COURAGE: I COULD BE COMPLETELY SURROUNDED BY SHORT-TERM RENTALS ACCORDING TO THE WAY THE LAWS ARE LAID OUT IN

THE ORDINANCE TODAY. >> I THINK IN YOUR EXAMPLE. >>COURAGE: THAT'S WRONG.

THAT'S SOMETHING THE COMMITTEE NEEDS TO LOOK AT TO PROTECT PROPERTY OWNERS WHO WANT TO LIVE IN THEIR HOME AND DON'T WANT TO BE SURROUNDED BY SHORT-TERM RENTAL PROPERTIES.

IT'S A WAY OF PROTECTING THE NEIGHBORHOODS. YOU JUST SAID IT COULD HAPPEN, AND IT WOULDN'T SURPRISE ME TO SEE IT HAPPEN TO SOMEBODY. AND IT SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN TO ANYBODY IN THIS CITY. AND SO I THINK THAT THIS COMMITTEE SHOULD BE CHARGED WITH LOOKING AT PROTECTING INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS FROM BEING ENGULFED BY SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

MAYBE THAT COULD BE SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS SAYING THERE SHOULD BE A 60 TO 75-FOOT DISTANCE BETWEEN AN INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNER AND SHORT-TERM RENTAL SO THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T HAVE THEM ALL AROUND THEM. THEY'RE A COUPLE DOORS DOWN OR SOMETHING.

SO YOU CAN LIVE WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS INSTEAD OF LIVING WITH A SHORT-TERM RENTER EVERY DAY.

THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE I THINK THIS ORGANIZATION THAT WE SET UP, THIS COMMITTEE NEEDS TO CONSIDER TO PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF NEIGHBORHOODS. SO THE REST OF WHAT I SEE ON THIS LIST LOOKS PRETTY GOOD. I THINK WE NEED TO CHARGE MORE FOR PERMIT FEES.

A HUNDRED DOLLARS A YEAR IS NOTHING. IF THESE PEOPLE RENTING OUT A HUNDRED OR 200 DAYS A YEAR -- WE CAN CERTAINLY EXPECT THEM TO PUT MORE INTO WHAT ENDS UP BEING OUR COSTS FOR SERVICING AND ENFORCEMENT. SO ANYWAY, THOSE WERE A COUPLE OF POINTS I WANTED TO MAKE, AND I'LL BE WATCHING TO SEE HOW THAT WORKS OUT.

THANK YOU, MIKE. >> TO YOUR POINT, THE BULLET POINT THAT SAYS "PLATFORM OBLIGATIONS," ITS OUR INTENT BASED ON THE FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED LAST MONTH -- OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT HAVING THE PLATFORM POSSIBLY COLLECT THE HOT AT PEOPLE RENT THERE AND/OR REQUIRE THE PERMIT NUMBERS AS PART OF THEIR ADVERTISING -- WE WANT THIS GROUP TO LOOK AT THOSE AS WELL. THAT IS PART OF IT AND WE TOOK ANOTHER NOTE TO MAKE SURE THAT'S

ONE OF THE BIG ONES WE LOOK AT. >>COURAGE: THANK YOU. >> CHAIR: COUNCIL MEMBER

GARCIA. >> GARCIA: THANK YOU. ARE HOSTELS ALLOWED IN THE CITY

AND DO WE HAVE ANY. >> HOTEL OR LODGING HOUSE? IT WOULD BE A HOTEL OR LODGING HOUSE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC HOSTEL DEFINITION IN OUR CODE.

IT FALLS UNDER ONE OF THOSE LODGING TERMS. >> GARCIA: AND DO WE KNOW OF ANY, AND I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, LIKE, A HOSTEL IS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL TYPE TWO BUT THEY ALLOW

MULTIPLE TENANTS WITHIN ONE HOME. >> I DON'T KNOW OF ANY.

WE COULD CERTAINLY LOOK TO SEE IF -- YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT BED AND BREAKFAST.

>> GARCIA: NO. IT'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF BUNK BEDS AND YOU RENT A BUNK BED AND?

>> YEAH. >> GARCIA: OKAY. >> I SPENT SOME TIME IN COLLEGE AND TRAVELED. WE CAN LOOK AND SEE BUT I THINK IT'S COVERED UNDER A SEPARATE

TERM. >> GARCIA: IT'S NO BED AND BREAKFAST.

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>> CHAIR: I BELIEVE MICHAEL SHAN NON-WAS REFERRING TO HIS RENT HOUSE.

THE ADU COMPETITION -- THE WINNER WAS ANNOUNCED? DOES ANYONE KNOW? I HAVEN'T SEEN THE ANNOUNCEMENT. MAYBE SOMEONE CAN GET IT TO US. THANK YOU.

THAT BRINGS US TO THE END OF OUR MEETING? >> WE NEED ACTION ON THAT ONE

TOO. >> CHAIR: SORRY. SO IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

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