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GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
IF WE COULD BEGIN WITH OUR SPANISH TRANSLATION SERVICES STATEMENT.
UM, BEFORE WE BEGIN, I DO WE STILL HAVE MASKS AVAILABLE? YES, WE DO.
I NEED TO REMIND MYSELF TO ASK EVERY TIME BEFOREHAND, UH, WITH THE RISE OF FALL SEASON AND FLU AND COVID AND OTHER THINGS.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A MASK.
WE DO HAVE SOME MASKS AVAILABLE OVER HERE IN THE, IN THE UH, SIDE.
UH, MY NAME IS ROB S SIPES AND I AM THE CHAIR OF THE ZONING COMMISSION FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT SEVEN ZONING COMMISSIONER.
I HEREBY CALL THIS REGULARLY, NO MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION INTO SESSION TIME IS 1 0 5.
I'D LIKE TO DO A ROLL CALL BY ALLOWING THE ZONING COMMISSIONERS TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, BEGINNING WITH THE COMMISSIONER ON MY FAR LEFT.
UH, MARCO BARROS WITH, UH, DISTRICT NINE, JOHN BUSTAMANTE, DISTRICT FIVE, OSVALDO ORTIZ, DISTRICT EIGHT.
DANIEL KELLUM, DISTRICT ONE, JOHN WITT, DISTRICT 10.
JANELLE CHASE, MAYOR EDDIE REYES.
CHARLES FUENTES FOR DISTRICT THREE.
UH, STAFF IS A QUORUM PRESENT.
IF EVERYONE WOULD PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
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TO COMMENCING OUR HEARING, I WOULD LIKE OUR STAFF TO REVIEW OUR MEETING FORMAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE STAFF.BEFORE I BEGIN, PLEASE TURN YOUR PHONES ON VIBRATE OR TURN THEM OFF.
THE ZONING COMMISSION IS AN 11 MEMBER BODY APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ZONING CASES UPON RECEIVING A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION, YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO FORWARD YOUR CASE TO CITY COUNCIL.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PROCEDURE, PLEASE CONTACT YOUR CASE MANAGER.
STAFF WILL BEGIN EACH CASE WITH A SHORT PRESENTATION OF THE REQUEST.
PART OF THE PRESENTATION INCLUDES A MAP THAT SHOWS THE AREA TO BE CONSIDERED FOR REZONING AND PROPERTY WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT.
PROPERTY CHECK MARKS INDICATE THOSE OWNERS IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND AN X INDICATES THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN OPPOSITION.
FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION AND ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION, THE APPLICANT WILL PRESENT THEIR REQUEST FOR THOSE THAT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE PROPOSED REZONING.
YOU WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THAT YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
THOSE IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER AND YOU'RE NOT OBLIGATED TO UTILIZE THE MAXIMUM TIME LIMITATION.
YOU WILL BE INFORMED WHEN YOUR THREE MINUTES ARE UP.
FOR THOSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEIR TIME TO A SPEAKER, THAT SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO PEOPLE GIVING THEIR TIME FOR A TOTAL OF NINE MINUTES.
THOSE GIVING UP THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AND SIGNED IN TO SPEAK AND MUST INDICATE THAT THEY'RE YIELDING THEIR TIME.
WHEN THE SPEAKER GOES TO THE PODIUM, THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL LIMITED TO ONE SPEAKER WITH A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT ALONG WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSION QUESTIONS.
STAFF, IF WE COULD GO OVER ANY POSTPONED OR WITHDRAWN ITEMS. WHAT POSTPONED? OH YEAH.
SO THE POSTPONED ITEMS TODAY ARE ITEMS ONE, TWO, AND FIVE.
ITEM ONE IS LOCATED AT 1422 SOUTH ST.
ITEM NUMBER TWO IS LOCATED IN THE 4,600 BLOCK OF NORTH STALL PARK.
THAT ONE IS ALSO POSTPONED AND ENDS IN THE NUMBERS 2 9 1.
AND THEN FINALLY ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS POSTPONED.
IT ENDS IN THE NUMBER ONE SEVEN OR 0 1 7.
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IT'S LOCATED AT 7 0 8 NORTH COLORADO STREET.ALL OF THESE CASES ARE POSTPONED.
THAT MEANS THAT THEY WILL BE REPUBLISHED AND RENO WHEN THOSE APPLICANTS ARE READY TO MOVE FORWARD.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU ARE HERE FOR THOSE PROPERTIES, YOU'RE FREE TO LEAVE AND ENJOY THE REALLY BEAUTIFUL DAY OUTSIDE AS THOSE ITEMS WILL, AS STATED, WILL NOT BE HEARD TODAY AND YOU WILL BE NOTIFIED IF FUTURE ACTION OCCURS.
DO WE WANT TO DO THE, WE'LL DO THE, THAT ONE ITEM FIRST AND THEN GET TO THE COMBINED AGENDA.
IF WE COULD HEAR ITEM 36 FIRST BEFORE GOING TO THE COMBINED AGENDA.
ITEM 36 IS DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION OF CANCELLATION OF THE ZONING COMMISSION MEETING ON JANUARY 2ND, 2024.
ALRIGHT, SO BASICALLY THIS IS FOR, UH, THE PUBLIC AND COMMISSIONERS TO NOTE THAT IF WE ARE DOING A CONTINUANCE THAT WE JANUARY 2ND, IT WOULD EITHER BE A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE OR A SIX WEEK CONTINUANCE.
THERE WOULD NOT BE A FOUR WEEK CONTINUANCE AVAILABLE.
UM, IS THERE MR. CHAIR, I MOVE THAT WE CANCELED JANUARY 2ND MEETING.
ALRIGHT, THERE'S A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER, UH, BUSTA MONTE WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BOTTLES.
WAS THAT YOU FOR CANCELLATION OF THE UH, JANUARY 2ND MEETING? ANY DISCUSSION? LOOKING LEFT.
UH, IF WE COULD HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.
IF WE COULD MOVE ON TO JUST GOING OVER THE LIST OF ITEMS ON THE COMBINED AGENDA.
SO ITEMS FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE ITEMS NUMBER 8, 9 13, 15, 17, 18, 20, 21, 23, 25, 28, 29, 30, 32, AND 34, 31 WAS REMOVED AND IS GONNA BE, UH, PUT TO INDIVIDUAL.
UH, COMMISSIONERS, ANY OF THESE ITEMS ON THE COMBINED CONSENT AGENDA THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO PULL? LOOKING LEFT.
SEEING NONE, IF WE COULD PLEASE READ THE COMBINED HEARING AGENDA NUMBER ONE INTO THE RECORD.
ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R THREE TO R THREE CD WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED, AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM THE WEST END HOPE AND ACTION NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ITEM NUMBER NINE IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C3 NAS WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR WAREHOUSING AND OPEN STORAGE TO IDZ TWO WITH USES PERMITTED FOR 33 DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 10 10 WEST ASHBY PLACE, 52 NOTICES WERE SENT.
ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED.
BEACON HILL AREA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT OF THE AMENDED PLAN AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM THE ALT VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
APPLICANT IS REQUESTING AN AMENDMENT TO YOU, UM, TO CHANGE THE USES PERMITTED TO 29 UNITS AND AMENDING THE SITE.
ITEM NUMBER 13 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM I ONE TO C3 WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 45 25 WEST COMMERCE STREET.
ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND NO RESPONSE FROM THE PROSPECT HILL OR LAS PALMAS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.
ITEM NUMBER 15 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM I ONE TO I TWO S WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR SANITARY LANDFILL WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 5 5 2 3 DIETRICH ROAD.
ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
ITEM NUMBER 17 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C3 TO C3 S WITH A
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SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A HELLA STOP WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.LOCATED AT 51 0 6 WEST 16 0 4 2 NOTICES WERE SENT.
ZERO OPPOSED AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM THE MOUNTAIN VIEW ACRES NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ITEM NUMBER 18 IS A REQUEST IN CHANGE IN ZONING FROM MF 33 AND C TWO TO IDZ THREE WITH USES PERMITTED IN MF 65 MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT EIGHT 11 AND EIGHT 15 EAST PARK AVENUE.
ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED.
AND TOBIN HILL COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT.
ITEM NUMBER 20 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C3 TO MF 40 WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 8,000 BLOCK OF SOUTH NEW BRAUNFELS AVENUE.
NINE NOTICES SENT ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR.
AND THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
ITEM NUMBER 21 IS A REQUEST AND CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO C TWO WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 5 5 0 6 SOUTH FLORA STREET.
AND THERE'S NO RESPONSE FROM THE ST.
LEO'S NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 23 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C TWO TO C TWO P.
I'M SORRY, FROM C TWO P TO C TWO P CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A TATTOO PARLOR WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 1601 GUADALUPE STREET.
AND HISTORIC WEST SIDE RESIDENTS ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR.
ITEM NUMBER 25, SORRY, TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.
ITEM NUMBER 25 IS A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO RMM FOUR WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 1147 WEST ASHBY PLACE.
ONE OPPOSED BEACON HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR.
ITEM NUMBER 28 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C TWO TO R SIX WITH ALL, UH, OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 24 14 WEST MARTIN STREET.
AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM THE PROSPECT HILL OR WEST END HOPE IN ACTION.
NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS NUMBER 29 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM MP 10 TO I ONE WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 24 95 FM 1516 NORTH SEVEN NOTICES WERE SENT.
AND THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
ITEM NUMBER 30 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM I ONE TO MF 18 WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 1526 NORTH ALAMO STREET.
GOVERNMENT HILL ALLIANCE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR FOR ITEM NUMBER 32.
A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C TWO TO C TWO S WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR PARTY HOUSE RECEPTION HALL AND MEETING FACILITIES WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 28,000 BLOCK OF NORTH US HIGHWAY 2 81.
AND THERE WAS NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
ITEM NUMBER 34 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FIVE MF 18 AND C TWO TO R FOUR ON 49.814 ACRES MF 18 ON 4.077 ACRES AND C TWO ON 2.726 ACRES GENERALLY WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME, GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 20,400 TO 20,900 BLOCK OF GUS MCCREE LANE.
AND THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
WE DO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON A COUPLE OF THESE ITEMS. SPEAKERS AND VOICEMAILS.
ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD, UH, BEGIN WITH, UH, VOICEMAILS PLEASE.
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KELLY, THIS IS RALPH THERE.WE'RE HAVING MINOR DIFFICULTIES, SO IF YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND HAVE THE SPEAKERS, WE'LL HAVE THE VOICEMAIL READY.
ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD BEGIN WITH THE SPEAKERS THEN.
SO THANK YOU HAVE THE LIST, RIGHT? YES, I DO HAVE A LIST.
UM, WE'RE GONNA GO WITH, UH, CYNTHIA SPIELMAN ON ITEMS NUMBER NINE AND 24.
AND WHILE SHE'S COMING UP, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO THESE NEIGHBORHOODS FOR COMING IN.
UH, A LOT OF THESE SIGNUPS ARE FOR, UH, THESE REQUESTS.
SO IT'S AWESOME TO HEAR FROM YOU GUYS AND WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY.
I WON'T TAKE THREE MINUTES FOR EACH ONE, BUT DO I GET THREE MINUTES FOR NUMBER NINE? YES, MA'AM.
SO SHE'S GONNA SPEAK ON NUMBER NINE, BUT 24 IS ON INDIVIDUAL, CORRECT.
I'M SORRY, 24 IS, BUT 25 IS NOT.
SO IT'S NINE AND 25 THAT SHE'S, OKAY.
AND 25 IS, UM, CAN I BORROW YOUR PEN? 25 IS 1147 WEST ASHBY.
UM, AND I'M CHAIR OF OUR ZONING AND URBAN DESIGN COMMITTEE.
UM, BEFORE I, I READ OUR LETTER AND I WON'T READ LETTERS FOR ALL THE CASES, BUT THIS IS A PARTICULARLY LARGE CASE.
THIS IS 29 UNITS, UM, ON A LOT.
I DON'T THINK OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS EVER WORKED ON A DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
WE ARE COMMITTED TO, UM, YOU KNOW, HOUSING WHICH IS BADLY NEEDED IN OUR COMMUNITY, UM, AS WELL AS DENSITY FOR LOCAL BUSINESSES AND TRANSPORTATION.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IT HAS TO, IT HAS TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE LAND USE.
AND SO I'M REALLY HAPPY THAT LATELY WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SAY YES TO A LOT.
BUT IN PARTICULAR THIS CASE, I WISH WE COULD HAVE HAD, UM, A VIDEO TO SHOW HOW THIS SHOULD BE DONE IN A COMMUNITY.
I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER WORKED ON A PROCESS THAT AT MOORE WAS AT STAKE AND THAT, UM, THAT THE LAND USE ATTORNEY EMILY WEISSMAN WEISLER, I'M SORRY, SORRY, UM, THAT SHE REALLY WORKED WITH OUR COMMUNITY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES WITH THE MOST, YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORS THAT WERE THE CLOSEST BY THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS, AS WELL AS SOME OF THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, I'LL READ OUR LETTER AFTER SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH THE BEACON HILL AREA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ZONING AND URBAN DESIGN COMMITTEE AND REVISIONS TO THE SITE PLAN.
AS A RESULT OF THAT INTERACTION, THE APPLICANT PRESENTED ITS REQUEST FOR A ZONING CHANGE TO BAHANA GENERAL ASSEMBLY AT IT'S A REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING ON NOVEMBER 9TH.
UM, AFTER THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION, UM, SUBCOMMITTEE GAVE A PRESENTATION ALONG WITH RECOMMENDATIONS OF SUPPORT AND THE MEMBERSHIP AND ATTENDANCE VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO SUPPORT THIS REQUEST.
THE FACT, UM, THAT THE REQUESTED IDZ WITH USES PERMITTED FOR 33 UNITS ALIGNS WITH OUR MIDTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN PLAYED A SIGNIFICANT ROLE IN OUR SUPPORT.
OUR SUPPORT IS ALSO PARTIALLY PREDICATED ON THE APPLICANT'S STATED COMMITMENT TO CONFORM TO OUR NCD DESIGN STANDARDS, DESPITE THE FACT THAT THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE PROJECT.
WE APPRECIATE MS. WEISER'S SUPPORT FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SENSE OF CHARACTER AND SENSITIVITY TO INPUT FROM DIRECT NEIGHBORS.
THIS PROJECT WILL BE THE LARGEST RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO BE BUILT IN BEACON HILL NEIGHBORHOODS SINCE THE BUILDING OF THE SAHA APARTMENTS ON BLANCO AND ATCH IN 1971.
EVEN WITH THE BENEFIT OF OUR NCD DEVI DESIGN STANDARDS AND RECENT IMPROVEMENTS TO THE UDC RELATIVE TO HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS AND DEFINITION OF A HALF STORY, THE BUILDING OF 29 2 0.5 STORY UNITS ON THIS CORNER IS GOING TO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT VIEW SHED AND LITERAL IMPACT ON THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS IN THE BROADER AREA.
WE HOPE THAT THERE WILL BE A CONTINUED COMMITMENT TO KEEP THE EXISTING RESIDENCE IN MIND AND THAT THE DEVELOPER'S TEAM AND DSD WILL BE DILIGENT AND THOUGHTFUL IN PLANNING FOR TRAFFIC, DRAINAGE AND STORMWATER.
UM, IMPACTS AND DRAINAGE AND STORMWATER IS A BIG ISSUE, BUT WE REALIZED THAT WAS NOT TO BE ADDRESSED HERE.
THE BEACON HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION RESPECTFULLY REQUESTS YOUR SUPPORT TO RECOMMEND, UM, APPROVAL OF THE REZONING REQUEST FROM C3 NA S NC D FIVE AH HOD TO I DZ TWO NC D FIVE AH HOD WITH USES PERMITTED FOR 29 UNITS, PROPOSED FOR 10 10 WEST ASHBY.
I DON'T WANNA DO THE NEXT ONE.
UM, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I KNOW OFTEN NEIGHBORHOODS FIGHT BACK ABOUT DENSITY IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, BEACON HILL AND A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN HAVING THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT WHERE IT'S APPROPRIATE.
UM, I'M GLAD TO REPORT THIS IS, UM, FOUR
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UNITS THAT WILL GO ON A LOT.THAT ORIGINALLY WAS MF 33 AND THEN IT BURNT DOWN AND THEN IT WAS, UM, UH, A SINGLE FAMILY, I THINK IT WAS R SIX.
AND, UM, WE WORKED WITH, UH, PATRICK CHRISTENSEN, WHO'S USED TO WORKING ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET APPROVAL AT OUR GENERAL MEETING FOR A FOURPLEX ON THAT LOT.
WE HAVE THE APPLICANT FOR ITEM NUMBER 18.
DO YOU STILL WANNA SPEAK? UM, I THINK IT'S WINTERS IS THE LAST NAME.
THAT'S ALL WE HAVE SIGNED IN TO SPEAK ON THESE ITEMS. UH, WE CAN PLAY THE VOICEMAILS NOW.
MA'AM, I'M THE SENIOR PASTOR AT BULL KELLY.
THIS IS RALPH MA'AM, I'M THE SENIOR PASTOR AT BULL BIRDIE METHODIST CHURCH.
YOU HAD ALREADY TALKED TO OUR CHURCH ADMINISTRATOR, VICKI HARWELL EARLIER.
I I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, YOU SAID THE ITEM IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
MY UNDERSTANDING OF CONSENT AGENDA IS, IS THERE'S NO OPPOSITION TO IT AND IT JUST GETS APPROVED.
WE ARE OPPOSING THIS ZONING CHANGE, UM, AND I WOULD LOVE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT.
AND THE CHURCH NUMBER IS 8 3 0 9 8 0 7 7 4 5.
BUT, UH, PLEASE HEAR THIS AND PASS THIS ON TOMORROW AT THE MEETING BECAUSE WE CANNOT BE THERE.
UH, BUT WE DO OPPOSE REZONING.
WE HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE 1978 AND, UH, AND THERE'S NO REASON TO REZONE THIS.
UM, I MEAN HE CAN, HE CAN REQUEST THAT, BUT, BUT WE ARE IN, WE ARE IN OPPOSITION TO THAT.
UM, SO, UM, PLEASE LET THE, UM, UM, THE COUNCIL KNOW THAT.
AND THAT WAS FOR ITEM NUMBER 32.
I WAS GONNA ASK, ALRIGHT, UM, IS THERE A MOTION FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA? MR. CHAIR? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FOLLOWING ITEMS FOR CONSENT, UM, AND APPROVAL NUMBER EIGHT, NUMBER NINE AS AMENDED NUMBER 13, NUMBER 15, NUMBER 17, NUMBER 18, NUMBER 20, NUMBER 21, NUMBER 23, NUMBER 25, NUMBER 28, NUMBER 29, NUMBER 30, NUMBER 32, AND NUMBER 34.
ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION AND UH, A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WATSON FOR APPROVAL OF ITEMS 8, 9, 13, WAIT 8, 8 9 AS AMENDED.
13 15, 17, 18, 20, 21, 23, 25, 28, 29, 30, 32, AND 34.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES.
UH, MOTIONS PASSES AS AMENDED.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU WERE HERE FOR ANY OF THOSE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT TO AGENDA, THOSE ITEMS WILL NOW BE PROCEEDING TO CITY COUNCIL.
ALRIGHT, WE ARE NOW GONNA MOVE ON TO OUR COMBINED HEARING.
DO WE HAVE A, OUR CONTINUANCE HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION OF ITEMS FOR CONTINUANCES,
ITEMS TWO BE CONTINUED TO THE DECEMBER 19TH MEETING.
WE HAVE ITEMS NUMBER 14, NUMBER 19, 26, 33 AND 35.
AND WE DO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NUMBER 33 AND 35.
UH, ARE THEY VOICEMAILS OR, OR SIGN? THEY'RE VOICEMAILS, CORRECT.
IF WE COULD HEAR THE, AND ITEM NUMBER 22, I APOLOGIZE.
PLEASE ADD 22 AS WELL TO THE 1219 CONTINUANCE REQUEST.
IT'S ORIGINALLY ON INDIVIDUAL.
OKAY, SO 2022 AND YOU SAID WE JUST HAD VOICEMAILS, CORRECT? CORRECT.
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SO JUST TO REVIEW AGAIN, UM, ITEMS NUMBER 14, 19, 22, 26, 33, AND 35 ARE REQUESTING CONTINUANCE TO FOR TWO WEEKS TO DECEMBER.UM, IF WE COULD HEAR THE VOICEMAILS PLEASE.
I HAVE LIVED AT 8 35 FOR 12 YEARS.
I AM AGAINST ZONING CASE NUMBER Z 2 0 2 3 DASH 1 0 7 0 3 2 1 CD DUE TO THE CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE OF OUR EXISTING STREET, MY NAME IS MARIELLA GARZA.
I AM PRESIDENT OF THE GARDENDALE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION REPRESENTING THE LOCAL COMMUNITY IMPACTED BY THE ZONING.
I AM HOMEOWNER IN THE IMPACT AREA LIVING ABOUT THREE BLOCKS AWAY FROM THE PROPOSED CHANGE ON THE STREET OF OUR
OUR COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDS THAT THE LAND AREA REZONING HAS BEEN RECENTLY REZONED WITH THE INTENTION OF PROTECTING THE COMMUNITY RESIDENTS ON THE PROPERTY WHILE ENSURING THE APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE LAND.
SINCE INITIAL MEETING, THIS COMMUNITY HAS REQUESTED TO REMAIN SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND ALTHOUGH RECENT REZONING HAS TRANSITIONED PROPERTIES FROM THREE TO R FOUR TO R SIX ZONING LOOPHOLE AND THE LOCAL COMMUNITY CONTINUES TO BE IMPACTED BY INAPPROPRIATE AND UNWANTED TYPE OF THE LOOPHOLE BEING THE USE OF ADDITIONAL, UH, CONDITIONAL USE, UH, TO THE CURRENT LOAN.
IF THIS CONDITIONAL USE REQUEST WAS TO BE APPROVED, IT WOULD BE CREATED AN OPEN DOOR FOR OTHER INVESTORS TO CONSIDER IF APPROPRIATE FOR COMMUNITY.
WHY SHOULD IT BE OKAY THAT THE EXISTING COMMUNITY BE SACRIFICED SO THAT ABSENTEE INVESTORS CAN CAPITALIZE ON THEIR PROPERTY AT THE EXPENSE OF THE EXISTING COMMUNITY? THE PROPER WAY TO RESOLVE THIS WOULD BE TO HAVE THE OWNER PLOT THE PROPERTY FOR THEIR PROPOSED PLAN INSTEAD OF SACRIFICING THE EXISTING COMMUNITY FOR THEIR DAYS.
I IMAGINE THEY DIDN'T CHOOSE THIS ROUTE BECAUSE THE COST OF FLOODING IS MUCH LATER.
SO I ASK WHY SHOULD THE COMFORT OF THE COMMUNITY BE SACRIFICED? THE PROPERTY OWNER ENLIST THEIR LIVING ADDRESS AS OUT OF STATE IN SUNNYVILLE, CALIFORNIA.
SIMILAR TO OTHER INVESTORS WITH ADDITIONAL
HOWEVER, THEY REMAIN OBLIVIOUS TO THE NEGATIVE UNSAFE OVER TELLING DISCOMFORT THEY'RE INTRODUCING TO THE EXISTING COMMUNITY.
OUR COMMUNITY REMAINS STRONGLY CONTINUES TO REQUEST THIS QUESTION.
THE COMMUNITY, THIS COMMUNITY IS AGAINST ZONING CASE Z 2023 DASH 1 0 7 0 0 3 2 1.
I AM VICE PRESIDENT OF GARDENDALE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
I AM AGAINST THE ZONING CHANGE ON 8 34 AL STREET.
AND UM, THE CASE NUMBER IS Z DASH 2023 DASH 1 0 7 0 3 21.
AND I AM AGAINST THAT ZONING CHANGE.
MY NAME IS KATHY TGA AND I LIVE IN THE BROOKSIDE NEIGHBORHOOD AND I WAS TOLD TO CALL THIS NUMBER TO OPPOSE THE ZONING, THE REZONING OVER ACROSS GD ROAD FROM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
MY NUMBER IS 2 1 0 2 1 5 0 0 7 2.
IF WE COULD HAVE A MOTION ON THE CONTINUANCE AGENDA NUMBER ONE, I GUESS.
MR. CHAIR? YES, I MOVE THAT ITEMS 14, 19, 22, 26, 33 AND 35.
BE MOVED TO THE 12 19 23 AGENDA SECOND.
THERE IS A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER REYES FOR A CONTINUANCE TO THE, UH, DECEMBER 19TH MEETING FOR ITEMS 14, 19 22, 26, 33, AND 35.
WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON.
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REYES? YES.MOTION PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE TO 12 19 23.
WE WILL SEE Y'ALL IN TWO WEEKS.
IF WE COULD MOVE ON TO THE NEXT CONTINUANCE AGENDA.
SO WE DO HAVE ONE ITEM AND THEY'RE REQUESTING A SIX WEEK CONTINUANCE TO JANUARY 16TH, 2024.
AND WE DO HAVE ONE VOICEMAIL TO BE PLAYED FOR THAT ITEM AND NO ONE IS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON IT.
IF WE COULD HEAR THE VOICEMAIL PLEASE.
THIS IS KATE RUCKMAN WITH THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY OF SAN ANTONIO, 1 0 7 KING WILLIAMS STREET, TWO TEN TWO TWO FOUR SIX ONE SIX THREE.
REGARDING ITEM NUMBER TEN ONE THIRTY THREE HICKMAN STREET.
THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY SUPPORTS THE ALTAVISTA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND AGREES THAT ANY PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT ON THIS SITE SHOULD CONFORM TO THE ALTAVISTA NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICT DESIGN STANDARD.
AND THAT'S IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
IF WE COULD HAVE A MOTION ON THAT ITEM PLEASE.
MR. CHAIR, I MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE.
ITEM NUMBER 10 TO THE JANUARY 16TH, 2024 HERE.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WATSON FOR CONTINUANCE FOR ITEM NUMBER 10 TO THE JANUARY 16TH MEETING.
UH, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES ROLL CALL OR ANY DISCUSSION? LOOKING LEFT.
UM, ITEM PASSES FOR CONTINUING.
ALRIGHT, WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO OUR INDIVIDUAL HEARING, BEGINNING WITH ITEM NUMBER THREE, I BELIEVE IF WE COULD HAVE STAFF'S REPORT PLEASE.
MY NAME IS JOSEPH LEOS, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER THREE IS GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 4,000 BLOCK OF WEST LOOP 1604 GOING FROM QD AND C TWO TO ED WITH ALL OVERLAYS STAYING THE SAME.
27 NOTICES WERE SENT ZERO IN FAVOR TO OPPOSE NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
WE ALSO GOT FIVE IN FAVOR OUTSIDE THE 200 FEET AND THREE OPPOSED OUTSIDE THE 200 FEET.
STAFF DOES NOT FIND ANY EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THE EXISTING QD AND C TWO ARE APPROPRIATE ARE A APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED ED ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT IS ALSO AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPERTY IS PLACED AND SIZED TO ADEQUATELY ACCOMMODATE THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING THE ED ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT TO PERMIT A TOURIST DESTINATION ENTERTAINMENT FACILITY THAT ALIGNS MORE WITH THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL USES ALONG WEST LOOP 1604.
STAFF RECOMMENDS AN APPROVAL PENDING A PLAN AMENDMENT AND STAFF IS IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT.
ALRIGHT, AND WE HAVE SAS REPORT FIRST, RIGHT? YES.
GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS MICHAEL BARR WITH THE RESOURCE PROTECTION DIVISION OF THE SAN ANTONIO WATER SYSTEM.
I'M HERE TO PRESENT STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ZONING CASE Z 2 23 DASH 107 0 0 1 71.
UH, SOS HAS REVIEWED THE ZONING APPLICATION FOR THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT LOCATED NEAR THE NORTHWEST INTERSECTION OF NORTHWEST MILITARY HIGHWAY IN LOOP 1604.
UH, THE 51 ACRE SITE IS UNDEVELOPED IN NA, UH, WITH NATIVE TREES AND AN IT IS AN ABANDONED QUARRY ON SITE.
UH, NO PORTION OF THE SITE IS WITHIN THE 100 YEAR FLOODPLAIN AND NO SENSITIVE GEOLOGIC FEATURES WERE OBSERVED DURING A SITE INVESTIGATION.
UH, SAUL'S RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH ALL ENVIRONMENTAL, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS STATED WITHIN THE REPORT TO INCLUDE 65% IMPERVIOUS COVER, UH, FOR THE OVERALL 51 ACRE SITE.
IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE.
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GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIR COMMISSIONERS CAROLINE MCDONALD WITH BROWN AND MCDONALD 100 NORTHEAST LOOP FOUR 10 HERE ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER AND APPLICANT.I DO HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION.
UH, AS STAFF INDICATED, THIS IS ABOUT 50 ACRES AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF 1604 IN NORTHWEST MILITARY.
WE ARE JUST THE EAST OF THE LARGER MARTIN MARIETTA QUARRY.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE, THE PROPERTY IS ZONED QD, CD AND C TWO.
UH, AND WE ARE REQUESTING, UH, THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
WE ARE WITHIN THE UTSA SA TOMORROW PLAN, CURRENTLY DESIGNATED AS URBAN MIXED USE, AND WE ARE REQUESTING REGIONAL MIXED USE.
UM, DUE TO SOME OF THE, THE HOLIDAY CANCELLATIONS, WE, WE ARE GOING TO ZONING BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION.
SO WE WILL GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION NEXT WEDNESDAY.
UM, HERE YOU'LL SEE A CONCEPTUAL LAND USE PLAN, UH, BECAUSE THE PROPERTY IS PRIMARILY ZONED QD FOR QUARRY.
UM, WE ARE, UH, WE DO HAVE TO SUBMIT A QUARRY REUSE PLAN, UM, AFTER THE ZONING IS APPROVED.
AND SO THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT HAS SHOWN, UM, YOU CAN SEE IN THE TOP, UH, OR FAR LEFT CORNER, WE ARE, UH, CONSIDERING A POTENTIAL GREENWAY, UH, TRAIL CONNECTION.
UM, AND THEN THE BOTTOM OF THE QUARRY IS WHERE MORE OF THE ENTERTAINMENT USES WILL, WILL LAND.
UH, THAT COULD INCLUDE MINI GOLF ARCHERY, UH, MIXED RECREATIONAL AS WELL AS, UH, FIELD OR COURT SPORTS.
UM, THERE ARE SOME TOWNHOMES CONTEMPLATED AS WELL AS, UH, COMMERCIAL USES ALONG NORTHWEST MILITARY.
UH, WE MET WITH SAWS FAIRLY EARLY ON AND, AND DID A SITE VISIT AS MUCH AS WE COULD, UM, AND, AND RELIED ON DRONE FOOTAGE FOR SOME OF THE MORE DIFFICULT AREAS.
UM, BUT WE DO, UH, AGREE WITH SAWS ON THEIR RECOMMENDATION OF IMPERVIOUS COVER OF 65%.
AND THEN OF COURSE WE ARE VERY CLOSE TO JBSA.
WE DID MEET WITH, WITH UH, MR. ANDERSON BACK IN JULY.
UM, AND WE AGREE WITH ALL OF THEIR STIPULATIONS.
SO WITH THAT, I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR, UH, SUPPORT FOR THIS CASE AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
THIS IS A DISTRICT EIGHT CASE, SO COMMISSIONER ORTIZ TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS.
ACTUALLY, JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR CAROLYN.
UM, I GUESS CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HOURS OF OPERATION? YEAH, SO, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL, UH, PLANNED ON NORTHWEST MILITARY WILL HAVE, UM, THE NORMAL RETAIL HOURS.
UM, THE ENTERTAINMENT USES, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY WILL BE OPEN FROM ABOUT 11:00 AM PROBABLY TO NINE OR 10:00 PM UM, SOMETHING THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO THE DISTRICT AID OFFICE WAS TO, TO LIMIT THE, THE 2:00 AM ANY SORT OF BAR OPERATIONS.
AND SO WE, WE DO AGREE TO THAT STIPULATION A LITTLE BIT, MAYBE ABOUT PARKING AND LIGHTING.
SO WE WILL COMPLY WITH ALL OF THE MLOD, UH, REGULATIONS RECOMMENDED BY JBSA, ALL OF THE DOWNWARD FACING LIGHTINGS WE'RE NOT INTERFERING WITH ANY OF THEIR OPERATIONS.
UM, AND THEN THE SITE WILL BE FULLY PARKED.
UM, THERE WILL BE NO, NO ANTICIPATED PARKING ON, ON ANY OF NORTHWEST MILITARY OR, OR SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENTS.
I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR, UM, THE APPLICANT OF ANYBODY OF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS WHO WANT TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.
THE, THE NEW ACCESS WILL ONLY BE ALONG THE FM ROAD.
UH, SO, SO MY CLIENT ALSO OWNS, UH, THE FRONTAGE ONTO 1604.
SO THERE WILL BE, UH, THE PRIMARY ACCESS FOR THE ENTERTAINMENT USES WILL BE ONTO 1604.
THERE ARE CONTEMPLATED, UM, ACCESS POINTS ONTO NORTHWEST MILITARY AS WELL.
UM, THERE'S ACTUALLY A, A TRAFFIC LIGHT PROPOSED FOR OUR, OUR NORTHERN ACCESS, UM, IN CONJUNCTION WITH SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT GOING ON ACROSS THE STREET.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.
ALRIGHT, BACK TO YOU COMMISSIONER ORTIZ FOR MOTION.
I'D LIKE TO THANK SAS AND THE PRESENT, UH, FOR THE PRESENTATION AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT.
UM, THE PROPOSED EED IS APPROPRIATE FOR ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA AND THE COMMERCIAL USERS
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ALONG WEST LOOP 6 0 4.UM, I'LL BE SUPPORTING STAFF AND SAUL'S RECOMMENDATION, UM, FOR ITEM NUMBER THREE.
WITH THAT I'LL BE, THAT'LL BE MY APPROVAL.
ALRIGHT, THERE'S A, A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ WITH SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON.
ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.
ROLL CALL VOTE MOTIONS FOR APPROVAL.
IF WE COULD MOVE ON TO ITEM FOUR.
UM, MY NAME IS KELLY SANDERS, PLANNING COORDINATOR WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS LOCATED AT 2104 PIPESTONE DRIVE GOING FROM R SIX CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR ASSISTED LIVING FOR 16 RESIDENTS TO R SIX CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY FOR 16 RESIDENTS, BUT WITH A MAJOR SITE PLAN AMENDMENT TO INCREASE THE BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGE WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
THERE WERE 19 NOTICES MAILED FIVE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED WITHIN 200 FEET AND NO RESPONSE FROM THE OC CAVEN HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND OUTSIDE 200 RE 200 FEET WE RECEIVED TWO IN FAVOR.
SO THE EXISTING R SIX CD RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY WITH UP TO 16 RESIDENTS IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING THE SAME USE FOR THE PROPERTY BUT MUST APPLY FOR A MAJOR SITE PLAN AMENDMENT SINCE THEY ARE INCREASING THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE MAIN STRUCTURE FROM 3,512 SQUARE FEET TO 5,192 SQUARE FEET.
THE UPDATED ZONING REQUEST WILL HOLD THE APPLICANT TO A PRESCRIBED SITE PLAN WHICH INDICATES THE USE AND PROPOSED STRUCTURES AND WILL REQUIRE ANY ADDITIONAL PUBLIC PROCESS SUCH AS THIS.
IF THERE ARE ANY MAJOR CHANGES, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL AND SAWS IS IN ATTENDANCE TO PRESENT THEIR FINDINGS.
AND STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PRESENT ONCE SAS IS FINISHED.
IF WE COULD HEAR FROM SAS PLEASE.
MIKE ESCALANTE WITH SAZO FOR PROTECTION AND EVALUATION SECTION.
WE REVIEWED THE ZONING APPLICATION FOR A REMODELING AND BUILDING ADDITION ON AN EXISTING ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY LOCATED AT 2104 PIPESTONE DRIVE.
THE BUILDING ADDITION WILL CONVERT SHARED ROOMS INTO INDIVIDUAL PRIVATE ROOMS. NO PORTION OF THE SITE IS IN A FLOOD PLAIN AND NO SENSITIVE FEATURES WERE OBSERVED ON, ON SITE NOR NOTED ON FILE.
SO RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH ALL ENVIRONMENTAL RECOMMENDATIONS WITHIN THE REPORT, INCLUDING A SUBMITTED SITE PLAN WITH A 38.66% IMPERIOUS COVER ON 0.46 ACRE LOT.
IF WE COULD HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT PLEASE.
GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.
I AM THE OWNER OF 2104 PIPESTONE DRIVE AND OUR INTENT IS TO HAVE THE SAME USE WE CURRENTLY USE.
WE'RE JUST ENHANCING THE SIZE TO HAVE BETTER SPACE, UH, FOR OUR PATIENT RESIDENTS.
UM, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
THIS IS A DISTRICT NINE CASE, SO COMMISSIONER BARDOS TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS.
YEAH, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, I JUST HAVE, UH, SOME POSITIVE COMMENTS THAT THE APPLICANT HAS MET WITH, UM, CITY STAFF AND THE DISTRICT NINE OFFICE FOR SEVERAL MONTHS.
SO I'LL WAIT FOR ANY COMMENTS FROM YOU OR QUESTIONS, BUT, UM, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING WITH THE APPLICANT FOR ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS.
UH, QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.
QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.
COMMISSIONER BOTTLES FOR A MOTION AND DISCUSSION.
UH, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, UM, IT'S AN APPROPRIATE USE.
UH, THERE'S A, IT IS FOR ASSISTED LIVING, UM, FACILITY.
SO AT THIS POINT WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE STAFF, DISTRICT NINE SOURCE, ALL THAT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
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OKAY.THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER BARTO, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER QUINTES.
DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.
OUR NEXT ITEM IS NUMBER SIX, GOOD AFTERNOON AND BENAVIDEZ ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER SIX IS GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 16,000 BLOCK OF KYLE SEAL PARKWAY AND IS A REQUEST TO GO FROM R FIVE TO MF 18 WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
THERE WERE 14 NOTICES SENT WITH RUN RETURN IN FAVOR, ZERO RETURN ON OPPOSITION.
AND THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
THERE WERE 14 RE RETURN IN OPPOSITION AND THE SONOMA RIDGE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED.
STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS.
IN RELATION TO THIS ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
THE CURRENT R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED MFA 18 LIMITED DENSITY MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICT IS ALSO APPROPRIATE.
THE PROPERTY IS PLACED IN SIZE TO ADEQUATELY ACCOMMODATE THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND THE PROPOSED MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ALIGNS WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE AREA, WHICH IS LARGELY VACANT WITH SOME SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND SOME APARTMENT COMPLEXES IN PROXIMITY.
THE PROPOSAL IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS OF THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, WHICH ENCOURAGES THE DEVELOPMENT OF ALTERNATE ALTERNATE HOUSING TYPES TO ACCOMMODATE THE CITY'S GROWING POPULATION AT ALL INCOME LEVELS.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IF WE COULD ADD THE APPLICANT PLEASE.
GOOD AFTERNOON, JAMES MCKNIGHT, 1 1 2 EAST PECAN FOUR TS MCKNIGHT.
ARE YOU GUYS GONNA SWITCH IT? OKAY.
THINK YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
I ALWAYS LIKE TO LOCATE THE PROPERTY FIRST.
UM, AND WE DID THIS THE FIRST TIME, BUT JUST TO LET YOU KNOW WHERE IT IS.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE TO LOOK AT THE ZONING.
UH, AS STAFF MENTIONED, IT'S R SIX FOR MOST OF THE PROPERTY, BUT WHAT'S IMPORTANT ABOUT THIS IS THAT IT'S 10.7 ACRES, BUT IT'S ONLY, IT'S OUT OF 118 ACRE TRACT.
AND THAT 118 ACRE TRACT IS PART OF AN MDP, AN EXISTING MDP.
SO YOU'LL SEE THAT IN JUST A MINUTE.
THERE'S, UH, SOME COMMERCIAL USES ALONG KYLE SEAL AND THERE'S ACTUALLY AN MF 18 THAT'S ADJACENT TO THE 118 ACRE TRACT.
AND ALL THIS AREA IS DESIGNATED AS SUBURBAN TIER, WHICH IS WHY MF 18 DOESN'T REQUIRE A PLAN AMENDMENT.
SO TO GET A, A GOOD AERIAL OF THE PROPERTY AGAINST 10.7 ACRES THIS TIME IS NOT CONTR.
THIS IS, UH, NOT ERZD, IT'S CONTRIBUTING ZONE AND IT'S IN THE GENERAL AREA OF OTHER SINGLE FAMILY UNITS IN SOME MULTIFAMILY UNITS.
SO WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING, I JUST OVERLAID THE 130 UNITS OF TOWN HOMES IN THIS AREA.
SO WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO DO APARTMENTS, BUT THERE IS A HOLE IN THE ZONING THAT DOESN'T ALLOW YOU TO GO.
IF YOU GO TO R FOUR, YOU COULD DO SOME UNITS, BUT YOU COULDN'T DO TOWN HOMES.
WE'RE REQUESTING TO DO ABOUT 12 UNITS AN ACRE.
SO, 130 UNITS OVER THIS 10.7 ACRES.
CURRENTLY THE ZONING WOULD ALLOW 75 UNITS, SO THAT'S ABOUT 12 UNITS PER ACRE.
THIS IS NOT AN, A HUGELY DENSE PRODUCT AND IT IS A SINGLE FAMILY PRODUCT.
IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE SECTOR PLAN.
IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN AND IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE SA 2020 INCREASE IN DENSITY.
AND AS YOU'LL SEE IN THE FURTHER SLIDES, IT'S ALSO REALLY ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.
SO THIS IS SOMETHING I LIKE TO SHOW THAT IS ALWAYS PART OF THESE PLANS.
SA 2020 TALKS ABOUT HOW THERE ISN'T ENOUGH LAND TO CAPTURE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, PARTICULARLY IN THE NORTH PART OF THE CITY.
AND IF DEVELOP, IF DEVELOPMENT CONTINUES UNDER THE SAME DENSITY AND DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS.
SO WE HAD DEVELOPED A PATTERN OVER MANY YEARS OF LARGER LOTS IN THIS AREA, BUT THERE IS A NEED TO SORT OF INCREASE THIS DENSITY IN SPECIFIC AREAS IF DONE CORRECTLY.
SO THIS IS PART OF A PLAN THAT'S BEEN ADOPTED.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S IN PLACE AND IT'S A POLICY THAT THE CITY HAS SAID IS IMPORTANT.
SO THIS IS THE PLAN THAT WAS THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED IN 2005.
AGAIN, THE PLANNING FOR THIS AREA TOOK PLACE A LONG TIME AGO.
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OUTSIDE THE CITY.SOME OF 'EM ARE INSIDE THE CITY.
THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS, UH, SHOWN UP IN OPPOSITION TO THIS IS TRACKED SIX, UH, DIRECTLY NORTH OF US, UH, I'M SORRY, WEST OF US.
UM, THEY'RE OUTSIDE THE CITY, BUT THEY ARE, THEY'RE FOLLOWING THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN THAT WAS, THAT WAS IN LINE FOR THEM.
THIS WAS APPROVED IN 2005 FOR 685 ACRES.
OUR AREA, THAT 118 ACRES THAT I TALKED ABOUT, THAT WAS APPROVED FOR 295 UNITS.
SO THAT'S WHAT'S PLANNED FOR THE, THE LAND RIGHT NOW.
AND WE'D LIKE TO SAY INSTEAD OF SPREADING IT OVER 118 ACRES, WE'D LIKE TO PUT 118 OR 130 UNITS JUST IN THIS 10.7 ACRES.
AND THEN YOU'LL SEE SOME SINGLE FAMILY OUTSIDE OF THAT.
WE'RE LOWERING THE OVERALL FROM 295 DOWN TO 230.
THE SAWS BOARD HAS ALREADY REVIEWED THE, THE DEVELOPMENT FOR THIS AREA AND FOUR TRACKED, UH, SEVEN ACROSS THE STREET AS WELL AND APPROVED IT FOR 415 EDU.
SO THERE IS AN APPROVED USA ON THIS ALREADY.
THERE'S ALSO AN APPROVED, UH, PHASE ONE ENVIRONMENTAL REPORT AND WE HAVE A PROTECTED SPECIES ASSESSMENT ALREADY DONE ON THE PROPERTY AS WELL.
SO INSTEAD OF THE 295 SINGLE FAMILY UNITS, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, 130 DWELLING UNITS OF TOWN HOMES AND THEN ANOTHER A HUNDRED OF JUST SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
THE OTHER 91 ACRES, EVERYTHING YOU SEE IN GREEN IS GONNA BE PROTECTED.
WE'RE WORKING WITH US FISH AND WILDLIFE RIGHT NOW AND WE DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS GONNA BE A CONSERVATION EASEMENT OR IF IT'S JUST GONNA BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY AS PART OF THE MEDALLION PARK, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO THIS.
BUT THERE WERE TWO FEATURES FOUND THAT WERE SENSITIVE FEATURES AND YOU CAN DEVELOP AROUND THEM.
BUT IT IS, UM, THROUGH THAT WORKING WITH FISH AND WILDLIFE, WE FELT THAT WAS BETTER TO JUST PRESERVE EVERYTHING IN THE AREA AND TRY TO INCREASE THE DENSITY IN ONE.
SO STILL TRY TO GET SOME UNITS OUT OF IT BECAUSE THERE ARE COMPETING CONCERNS HERE.
I BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT THE HOUSING IS NEEDED, THAT WE NEEDED DENSITY, BUT WE ALSO HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES.
SO WHAT DO YOU DO? WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM, UH, GROUPS IN THIS AREA IS TO CLUSTER TO INCREASE THE DENSITY.
YOU STILL GET SINGLE FAMILY PRODUCT, YOU STILL GET A DECENT AMOUNT OF UNITS 230 IN THIS CASE INSTEAD OF 295, BUT WITH THE BENEFIT OF PRESERVING THE AREA AROUND IT.
THIS IS THE, THE PRODUCT THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
IT'S A TWO, TWO STORY, TWO AND A HALF STORY, UH, TOWNHOME PRODUCT.
IT'S UH, WE HAVE SOME, UM, COMPLETED PROJECTS THAT ARE OUTSIDE TEXAS.
I DIDN'T PUT THEM IN YET BECAUSE THEY'RE, WE STILL HAVEN'T GOTTEN ALL THOSE PHOTOS.
SO THIS ARE THE RENDERINGS FOR THIS PROJECT.
SO THIS SUMMARY OF THIS IS JUST, AGAIN, IT'S MF 18 THAT WE'RE ASKING 430 UNITS OR 12 UNITS AN ACRE.
THERE'S SENSITIVE FEATURES ON HERE AND THAT'S WHY PART OF THE REASON WE'RE PRESERVING.
BUT IT'S 91 ACRES, WHICH ABOUT 77% OF THE OVERALL SITE.
NOT ALL OF IT ON OUR 10.7 ACRES, BUT STILL BEING PRESERVED.
UM, WE'RE LOWERING THE OVERALL HOUSING UNITS.
AND THE FOOTPRINT ON HERE, THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ACROSS THE STREET HAS TALKED ABOUT TRAFFIC.
WELL, THE TRAFFIC IS BEING LOWERED FROM WHAT WE ARE, IT'S ALREADY PLANNED FOR.
UM, AND ALTHOUGH THIS ISN'T A ZONING ISSUE, WE HAVE, UH, TALKED WITH THE COUNCIL OFFICE AND WE ARE COMMITTED TO A SET OF RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS.
AGAIN, UNDER THE RESTRICTIONS THAT WE HAVE AND THE ZONING LAWS ARE, ARE, ARE KIND OF BOXED IN, IS TO HAVE THE RESTRICTED COVENANTS THAT WOULD ENSURE THAT DENSITY, THAT, UM, HEIGHT, THE ACTUAL USE TO MAKE IT A TOWN HOME, NOT APARTMENTS.
AND, UH, PROTECT THE ACREAGE AS WELL.
ALL OF THOSE CAN BE PRESERVED IN A, IN A PRIVATE DOCUMENT.
UH, THIS AGAIN, WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS CONSISTENT WITH ALL THE HOUSING POLICIES THAT ARE PUT IN PLACE AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.
SO I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? WE DO HAVE, UH, TWO VOICEMAILS TO BE PLAGUED.
ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HEAR THOSE VOICEMAILS PLEASE.
I LIVE AT 1 7 0 7 1 SONOMA RIDGE, SAN ANTONIO SEVEN EIGHT TWO FIVE FIVE.
CALLING IN REFERENCE TO ITEM, UH, 8 8 2 2 0 2 3 DASH 1 0 7 0 1 8 4 E RZ D ON THE 1600 BLOCK OF STYLE STEEL.
I'M CALLING, UH, WITH CONCERNS REGARDING THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGES TO ALLOW FOR MULTI-USE APARTMENT BUILDINGS.
UH, I HAVE LIVED HERE, UH, ON THE KYLE FIELD SINCE 2013 AND OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS THERE'S BEEN SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN TRAFFIC ON KYLE FIELD WITH THE, UH, ALREADY UH, THREE TO FOUR APARTMENT BUILDINGS BEING BUILT.
KYLE STEEL, UH, IS NOT A VERY, UH, UH, UH, WELL-MAINTAINED
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ROAD.YOU KNOW THAT HALF OF THE HALF OF THE LANES ARE, UH, TWO LANE ROADS, HALF OF THEM.
ONE SIDE IS SEVERELY NEGLECTED, WHICH MEANS THAT EVERYBODY ARRIVES ON IN ONE LANE.
THERE ARE NUMEROUS, UH, BICYCLISTS USING THIS ROAD.
THERE'S A MIDDLE SCHOOL ON THE ROAD, UH, ON KYLE FIELD.
THERE'S A DAYCARE ON KYLE FIELD AND IT IS NOT SAFE WITH ALREADY WITH THE NUMBER OF CARS ON IT AS WELL AS THE NUMBER OF BLIND TURNS ON TILE FIELD.
IF YOU HAVE ANY, UH, QUESTIONS ABOUT MY REPORT, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO DRIVE UP KYLE FIELD AND FOR YOURSELF.
I ALSO HAVE CONCERNS REGARDING, UH, THE WATER USAGE, UH, FOR THE HOMES UP HERE ON KYLE FIELD.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF, UH, OF ISSUES WITH PRESSURE, UH, DROPPING AND I'M CONCERNS REGARDING IF MORE HOMES ARE BUILT UP IN THIS AREA, SUCH APARTMENTS THAT THERE WILL NOT BE SIGNIFICANT WATER TO SUPPLY ALL OF THIS AREA.
I STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT A WATER USAGE, UH, REPORT EXAM BE DONE TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY MORE HOMES BUILT IN THIS AREA, THAT WE HAVE ADEQUATE WATER, UH, TO SUPPLY ALL OF THEM.
UM, AND OVERALL, TOO MUCH TRAFFIC ALREADY.
UH, WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE, UH, TRAFFIC IN THIS AREA.
YES, FLOYD OLIVA, 2 1 0 3 1 9 0 8 9 7 1 7 2 2 2.
CORRINE RIDGE, SAN ANTONIO 7 8 2 5 5.
AND I LIVE RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE, UH, SUBJECT PROPERTY.
UH, AND THE PROPERTY OR THE ITEM I'M CALLING ABOUT TODAY IN PROTEST OF, IN OPPOSITION TO IS ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.
CASE NUMBER TWO DASH 2 0 2 3 DASH 0 7 0 0 180 4 E RZ D UH, THE ADDRESS IS 6,000 BLOCK OF KYLE SEAL.
UH, THE UH, ZONING COMMISSION MAY RECALL THAT I WAS THERE LAST MEETING AND, UH, MEMBER ORTIZ RECOMMENDED THAT WE CONTINUE THIS MATTER UNTIL THE CITIZENS AND DEVELOPER HAD A CHANCE TO TALK.
UH, I JUST NOW, AS OF YESTERDAY, GOT SOME OF THE INFORMATION WE NEEDED, BUT I BOUGHT ITEMS REGARDING TRAFFIC STUDY REGARDING, UM, THE UTILITY, UH, CAPACITY AND IMPACT ON THE EDWARDS.
UH, GIVEN THE DOCUMENTATION I RECEIVED ONLY YESTERDAY, I HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT, NOR MAY HAVE MY EXPERT TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
UH, I'VE BEEN TOUCH WITH BOTH, UH, COMMISSIONER MOODY'S OFFICE AND COUNCILMAN VAL'S OFFICE AND THEY'RE BOTH AWARE OF THE SITUATION AND THEY'RE URGING COMMUNICATION WITH, UH, THE CITIZEN AND DEVELOPER.
AND NOT ONLY AM I CALLING ON BEHALF OF MYSELF, BUT ON THE OTHER 155 HOMES WITHIN THE SONOMA MESA SUBDIVISION.
AND WE URGE YOU TO CONTINUE THIS MATTER ONCE AGAIN UNTIL, UH, MYSELF AND REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE COMMUNITY HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO, TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE PLANS, THE VISIT WITH THE DEVELOPER, LOOK AT SOME OF THE PROPOSED, UH, RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE ON THERE.
'CAUSE AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT WE HAVE NOTHING.
WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO SPEAK WITH ANYONE ABOUT IT, AND I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO THAT.
BUT, UH, AT THIS POINT, WE ASK YOU TO CONTINUE THIS MATTER.
WE PLEASE CONTINUE THIS MATTER UNTIL WE'VE HAD A CHANCE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE DOCUMENTATION AND DETERMINE, UH, OUR POSITION ON THAT AND SEE IF IT'S, UH, VIABLE FOR OUR NEEDS BECAUSE WE'RE THE ONES THAT LIVE HERE.
WE'RE THE ONES THAT HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT.
UH, ONCE THE DEVELOPMENT IS UP AND GONE, THE DEVELOPER WILL BE GONE AND SO WILL EVERYBODY ELSE.
AND THE CITIZENS ARE ONES THAT ARE GONNA HAVE TO BE LEFT DEALING WITH THE ISSUES THAT ARE LEFT.
SO AGAIN, UH, FLOYD OLIVAR, TURRE RIDGE, UH, 1 7 2 2 TURRE RIDGE.
AND I ASK YOU TO, UH, PLEASE CONTINUE THIS MATTER UNTIL THE TIME AS WE HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK WITH THE DEVELOPER.
THE DEVELOPER HAS MY CONTACT INFORMATION.
I REACHED OUT TO THEM, THEY SENT THE EMAIL YESTERDAY.
SO THERE'S NO REASON WHY WE CAN'T CONTINUE THIS AND SET UP A MEETING TO TALK AND DISCUSS THE MATTER.
AND THAT'S IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
ALL RIGHT, MR. MCKNIGHT, DID YOU WANT A OPPORTUNITY FOR A REBUTTAL? I WOULD, YES.
ONE, THE, THE USA THAT WAS APPROVED, YOU KNOW, THE, ONE OF THE RESIDENTS ASKED ABOUT THE CAPACITY THAT WAS ACTUALLY JUST APPROVED, UM, AND RECORDED LAST WEEK, I THINK.
SO THIS IS RELATIVELY NEW INFORMATION.
THE ENVIRONMENTAL REPORTS THAT WERE DONE, THEY WERE DONE A YEAR AGO.
WE DIDN'T HAVE THEM, WE WEREN'T SURE WHAT WE WERE GONNA GET THEM.
UH, SOME COMMUNICATION WITH THE, THE LANDOWNER.
WE DIDN'T GET THEM UNTIL LAST WEEK AS WELL.
SO WE, WE HAD BEEN EMAILING THEM AND LETTING 'EM KNOW WE'RE GONNA GET THE INFORMATION, WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE, WE'RE HERE COMMUNICATING WITH YOU.
BUT WE GAVE IT TO 'EM AS SOON AS WE COULD.
BUT WE STILL HAVE A LONG TIME UNTIL CITY COUNCIL.
ALL OF THEIR CONCERNS RIGHT NOW ARE DEVELOPMENT CONCERNS, NOT ZONING CONCERNS WHETHER OR NOT A TRAFFIC IMPACT IS DONE.
WE TOLD THEM IT WAS NOT DONE, THE ENVIRONMENTAL REPORT IS DONE AND WE SHOWED IT TO THEM.
UM, THE PRESERVATION OF OF THE LAND IS EVIDENCE OF THE FACT THAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL
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REPORT WAS COMPLETED.UM, THE USA HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE SAWS BOARD AND RECORDED IT'S DONE.
SO WE HAVE THE ANSWERS FOR THEM.
AND AS FAR AS ADDING TO THE TRAFFIC, WE'RE NOT ADDING, WE'RE ACTUALLY REDUCING TRAFFIC.
THE, THE PLANNING FOR THE TRAFFIC HAPPENS LONG BEFORE WE GET TO THIS POINT THAT MDP WAS APPROVED IN 2005.
SO THE CITY HAS BEEN AWARE OF THE SIZE, THE NUMBER OF UNITS AND THE SIZE OF THE ROAD IN THAT AREA FOR A LONG TIME.
AND 295 UNITS WERE PLANNED FOR THAT AREA.
AND THE ROAD HAS BEEN PLANNED FOR THAT 295 UNITS AND NOW WE'RE LOWERING THAT TO 230.
SO WE HAVE ANSWERS TO ALL OF THEM.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM.
WE'VE TOLD THE, THE COUNCILMAN'S OFFICE AND THE COMMISSIONER BOTH THAT WE WILL ABSOLUTELY CONTINUE.
WE'VE GOT ANOTHER SIX WEEKS UNTIL IT GOES TO CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL APPROVAL.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE WORKING WITH THEM.
THIS IS A DISTRICT EIGHT CASE, SO BACK TO YOU COMMISSIONER ORTIZ FOR QUESTIONS.
UH, MR. MCKNIGHT, JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE, I KNOW THEY MAKE SOME POINTS FROM THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE, BUT THE TRAFFIC, UH, I KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, BUT WAS THERE ANY TYPE OF RECOMMENDATION FOR AS FAR AS A D DEACCELERATION LANE TO BE ADDED? WE JUST, IN MY EXPERIENCE, UH, I COULD SAY THAT THAT'S PROBABLY LIKELY THAT WE'LL HAVE A DESAL LANE THERE, JUST BE BASED ON THE, THE 230 UNITS.
UM, BUT WITHOUT THE TA I CAN'T SAY THAT FOR SURE.
I JUST THINK THAT'S PROBABLY LI IT'S BASED ON ALSO WHAT I SEE IN THE, IN THE AREA.
AND AS FAR AS, UH, SIDEWALKS, ARE THERE ANY PLANS TO ADD SIDEWALKS? OH, DEFINITELY THEY'LL BE REQUIRED.
UM, AND THEN AGAIN, OF COURSE THE PICTURES, YOU WON'T HAVE THOSE.
DO YOU THINK YOU'D HAVE THOSE BY THE TIME FOR CITY COUNCIL'S MEETING? OH YEAH.
FOR, TO HAVE THOSE PROVIDE TO THE NEIGHBOR? THEY, I SHOULD HAVE 'EM THIS WEEK.
UM, UM, WHEN I TALKED TO THEM, IT WAS JUST YESTERDAY, HE SAID, YEAH, HE'S GOTTA GET THEM FROM, YOU KNOW, THE FOLKS IN ATLANTA.
UM, THEY DID THESE RENDERINGS FOR WHAT THIS IS GONNA LOOK LIKE, BUT WHAT THE EXISTING PRODUCT, WE WILL HAVE THEM.
THAT WAY THEY CAN AT LEAST SEE WHAT ABSOLUTELY SAID OF THE RE.
I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
I'M GONNA HAND IT OVER TO MY COMMISSIONERS FOR ANY QUESTIONS THEY HAVE.
UH, COMM COMMISSIONER BUSANTE QUESTION? YES, PLEASE.
UH, MR. MCKNIGHT, I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE KARST FEATURES AND THE BUFFERS THERE THAT SAYS 350 FEET.
IS THAT THE RADIUS? THAT'S THE RADIUS.
SO WHAT THAT COMES OUT TO IS APPROXIMATELY 10% OF THE 91 ACRES IS WITHIN JUST THOSE TWO KARST AREA BUFFERS.
UH, YES AND COMMISSIONER WITT, SORRY, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
UH, ARE THESE RENTAL OR FOR SALE UNITS OF TOWN FOR SALE? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO.
UH, OTHER COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.
QUESTIONS COMMERS ON MY RIGHT.
THE STORMWATER RUNOFF, WILL THAT COME ONTO CAL SEAL? UM, I DON'T BELIEVE IT.
THEY'RE, THEY'VE GOT A HIGH ELEVATION.
I BELIEVE IT GOES DOWN TO THE, THE SOUTHEAST IS THE DIRECTION OF THE RUNOFF.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.
UM, I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION THAT'S KIND OF A FOLLOW UP TO, UH, COMMISSIONER BUS MONTE'S QUESTION.
SO THIS IS NOT, THIS PROPERTY IS NOT WITHIN THE EDWARDS RECHARGE ZONE? IT IS NOT, NO.
THEY, THEY, THEY MENTIONED E-R-Z-D-A COUPLE OF TIMES.
IT'S ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW WHAT, IT TOUCHES THE BOTTOM CORNER OF THAT 118 ACRES.
BUT OUR PROPERTY THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR REZONING IS, IS NOT.
UM, AND, UH, FINAL QUESTIONS? ANYONE? NONE.
COMMISSIONER ORTIZ TO YOU FOR A MOTION.
THIS IS A TOUGH CASE, UH, BUT BEING THAT THEY'RE GONNA PRESERVE 77% OF THE LAND THAT'S BEING SURROUNDED AROUND THE AREA AND THEY'RE REDUCING THE POSSIBLE TRAFFIC THAT WOULD BE ADDED IF THEY DIDN'T MAKE THIS CHANGE, UM, I WOULD BE, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND SUPPORT THIS RECOMMENDATION FOR CHANGE.
AND, BUT I WILL SAY, UH, AS FAR AS COMMENTS TO CONTINUE THE COMMUNICATION, ESPECIALLY WITH MR. OLIVARES, THEY JUST CALLED AND LEFT HIS MESSAGE AS FAR AS BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE HIM DOCUMENTATION BEFORE THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING, WHICH IS JANUARY 18TH.
AND THEN ALSO COMMUNITY, UH, CONTINUE THE COMMUNICATION WITH THE SURROUNDING HOA, WHICH IS ACROSS THE STREET THAT WAY, AT LEAST BY CITY COUNCIL, THERE IS SOME TYPE OF COMMUNICATION FROM ALL PARTIES THAT AT LEAST SOMEWHAT SUPPORT.
I'M NOT SURE YOU'RE GONNA GET ALL SUPPORT, BUT AT LEAST THERE IS SOME PEOPLE ON BOARD WITH, WITH THIS CHANGE.
UM, WITH THAT, I'LL BE MAKING A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
I'LL FOR ITEM NUMBER SIX, I'LL THANK ALRIGHT, THE MOTION, A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARDOS, UH, DISCUSSION.
LOOKING LEFT, SEEING NONE, LOOKING RIGHT, SEEING NONE.
UH, I SEE THIS AS A, AS A, A GOOD IDEA TO PRESERVE SOME OPEN SPACE.
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SO, UM, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.WE ARE NOW ON TO ITEM SEVEN, I BELIEVE.
MY NAME IS JOSEPH LEOS ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS LOCATED AT 1 4 0 7 LEO STREET, GOING FROM C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO IDZ TWO.
MEDIUM INTENSITY INFO DEVELOPMENT ZONE WITH PERMITTED USES FOR SIX DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS STAYING THE SAME.
ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM THE PROSPECT HILL OR WEST END HOPE IN ACTION.
NEIGHBOR ASSOCIATIONS, THE EXISTING C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE REQUESTED ID Z TWO MEDIUM INTENSITY INFO DEVELOPMENT ZONE WITH PERMITTED USES FOR SIX DWELLING UNITS IS ALSO AN APPROPRIATE ZONING.
THE PROPERTY IS FITTINGLY PLACED TO ACCOMMODATE SIX UNITS SITTING BETWEEN A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE AND AN AUTO BODY AND REPAIR SHOP CREATING A BUFFER BETWEEN THE CONFLICTING USES.
ADDITIONALLY, THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS OF THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, WHICH ENCOURAGES A DIVERSE, UH, HOUSING OPTION FOR ALL INCOME LEVELS.
THE PROPOSED IDZ INFO DEVELOPMENT ZONE DISTRICT ALSO HOLDS THE APPLICANT TO A PRESCRIBED SITE PLAN, WHICH INDICATES THE USE AND PROPOSED STRUCTURES AND WILL REQUIRE AN ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATION BY CITY COUNCIL.
IF THERE ARE ANY MAJOR CHANGES, STAFF RECOMMENDS AN APPROVAL AND STAFF IS ALSO AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT.
IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION PLEASE FOR LEO STREET APPLICANT.
SO THIS IS, UH, WE ASKING TO MAKE IT A RESIDENTIAL ZONING.
SORRY, IF YOU COULD GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FIRST, PLEASE.
THE ASAT HALAI, UH, THIS IS TWO ADDRESS, HOLD ON PLEASE.
OH, 1407 AND 1410 LEAR STREET.
AND IT'S, UH, UH, WE ASKING TO MAKE IT, UH, RESIDENTIAL, UH, ZONING, WHICH, UH, CITY AND THE NEIGHBOR FOOD PRESIDENT HAS SUGGESTED.
AND WE JUST LOOKING FOR APPROVAL.
AND, UH, WE DO HAVE A EXISTING PACKET INSIDE ALREADY AND WE ALSO SEND IT TO THE EMAIL, THE, LIKE, HOW IT DESIGNED THAT.
UM, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? NO, WE DO NOT.
AND THIS IS A DISTRICT 5K, SO TO YOU.
COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE FOR QUESTION.
MY ONE QUESTION RIGHT NOW IS, IS THIS GOING TO BE USED AS SHORT-TERM RENTALS OR IS IT MORE LONG-TERM HOUSING THAT, UH, I NEED TO MAKE SURE THE, CAN I MAKE A QUICK PHONE CALL? HE THE MAIN GUY.
HE CAN ANSWER ME REALLY QUICK.
I WOULD GO AHEAD AND, AND STEP AWAY FROM THE MICROPHONE AND YOU CAN DO THAT AND I CAN MAKE SOME COMMENTS.
WELL, I'M HAPPY TO VAMP IS WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO.
UM, SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'VE ALL AS COMMISSIONERS STRUGGLED WITH IS, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE MAIN RECOMMENDATIONS FOR APPROVAL OR ONE OF THE MAIN REASONINGS FOR APPROVAL IN THIS CASE WAS THAT IT GOES ALONG WITH THE SHIP, THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.
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WELL, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE ARE TWO ISSUES WITH THAT.IF IT'S NOT ACTUALLY PROVIDING UNITS FOR HOUSING, THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT CONCERN.
ADDITIONALLY, FROM A LAND USE PERSPECTIVE, I THINK WE DO HAVE TO START THINKING ABOUT WHERE STR FIT IN THIS PLAN.
UM, OVERALL, THIS RUBRIC, UH, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT HOUSING, THEY'RE NOT RESIDENTIAL STRICTLY SPEAKING, NOR ARE THEY REALLY THE C3 USAGE THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR A HOTEL, WHICH WOULD BE ANOTHER ANALOGOUS USAGE.
SO, UM, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I AM GONNA START ASKING ABOUT IN ALL OF OUR IDZ AND OTHER TIMES WHEN WE'RE CREATING A LOT OF UNITS IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND SAYING, OH, WE'RE DOING GREAT, WE'RE GOING WITH THE SHIP AND WE'RE NOT CONTRIBUTING UNITS.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.
BACK TO YOU COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE.
UM, SO THAT CERTAINLY PUTS IT OVER THE LINE.
I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK TO GET THE PARKING HERE.
I'M SORRY THAT WE HAD SOME MISCOMMUNICATIONS OVER THE LAST FEW MEETINGS.
UH, BUT AT THIS POINT, GIVEN THAT IT'S LONG-TERM HOUSING, THAT THE MAIN RATIONALE, AGAIN FROM THE CITY IN, IN RECOMMENDING APPROVAL IS THAT IT CONTRIBUTES TO MEETING OUR SHIP GOALS.
I CURRENTLY AT THIS TIME MOVE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
THERE IS A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BUSANTE FOR APPROVAL WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON.
DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER'S ON MY LEFT? NONE.
COMMISSIONER'S ON MY RIGHT? NONE.
UH, WE ARE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 11.
IF WE COULD HAVE STAFF'S PRESENTATION PLEASE.
UM, KELLY SANDERS, PLANNING COORDINATOR WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER 11 IS LOCATED AT 57 0 3 MCDONOUGH STREET, GOING FROM R FOUR TO R FOUR CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
UM, THERE WERE 42 NOTICES SENT.
ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED.
AND THERE'S NO RESPONSE FROM THE TIERRA LINDA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
THE EXISTING FOUR R FOUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED R FOUR CD WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS IS ALSO APPROPRIATE.
THERE'S AN EXISTING, THERE ARE EXISTING FOURPLEXES, UM, DOWN THE ROAD AND FUTURE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WILL BE ACROSS THE STREET.
SO THE PROPOSED DENSITY IS WITHIN THE CHARACTER OF THE ESTABLISHED COMMUNITY.
THE REQUEST WOULD ALSO COM MAINTAIN THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF R FOUR AND, UM, THUS CONDITIONAL USE WOULD BE, UH, PRESCRIBED WITH A SUBMITTED SITE PLAN.
SO ANY MAJOR DEVIATION FROM THE SITE PLAN WOULD REQUIRE ADDITIONAL COUNSEL CONSIDERATION.
UM, THE PROPOSED ADDITION DENSITY IS ALSO IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, ALSO KNOWN AS SHIP AS COMMISSIONER BUSANTE BROUGHT UP IN THE LAST ITEM.
UM, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND, UM, THERE IS, YOU HAVE RECEIVED AN AN AMENDED SITE PLAN IN YOUR PACKETS, UH, FOR REVIEW.
UM, STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION PLEASE.
MY NAME IS RAUL GARCIA, UH, PROPERTY OWNER OF 5 7 0 3 MCDONOUGH STREET, REPRESENTING MY OWN INTEREST.
WHAT WE PLAN TO DO WITH THIS, UH, LOCATION IS BUILD TWO DUPLEX UNITS, WHICH WILL EACH HAVE TWO, UH, HOUSING UNITS IN THEM FOR A TOTAL OF FOUR HOUSING UNITS ON THE PROPERTY.
THANK YOU, UH, COMMISSIONER BUSANTE TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS.
I'M SORRY IF YOU WOULD, WAIT, WAIT.
DO WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? SORRY, COMMISSIONER BUSON, THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
SEE, I KNEW THAT, THAT'S WHY I SKIPPED AHEAD.
BUT MR. GARCIA, UM, YOU KNOW, I NOTICED FROM THE, ESPECIALLY FROM THE PICTURES OF THE PROPERTY, THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF, OF REALLY NICE TREES ON THIS PROPERTY.
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DO YOU KNOW WHICH, IF ANY OF THOSE TREES WILL BE PRESERVED? UM, I DO NOT.UM, I DO KNOW THAT THERE IS SOME TREES THAT HAVE BEEN PRESERVED.
UM, HOWEVER, WHENEVER WE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY, JUST THE OFF BAT, I CAN TELL THE TRUTH THAT THOSE TWO TREES IN THE MIDDLE ARE NOT THERE ANYMORE.
BUT I'M NOT SURE AS TO WHAT TREES ARE PLANNED IN THE FUTURE.
SO WHAT I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO DO, UM, BEFORE YOU GO TO COUNCIL POTENTIALLY, UH, IS, YOU KNOW, TRY TO GET THOSE TREES ON THE SITE PLAN.
WOULD YOU AGREE TO DO THAT? I AGREE.
UH, QUESTIONS? FELLOW COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? NONE.
COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT? NONE.
BACK TO YOU COMMISSIONER BUSANTE AFFIRMATION.
SO I THINK THESE UNITS ARE GREAT.
UM, I DIDN'T ASK MY STR QUESTION AND NOW I REGRET IT 'CAUSE I WASN'T EXPECTING THE APPLICANT HERE, I THINK.
UM, BUT IN ANY EVENT, UM, THE O ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS, AND I THINK I'VE MENTIONED THIS AT LEAST WITH RESPECT TO IDZ, UM, AND ANYTIME WE'RE INCLUDING A SITE PLAN ON CONDITIONAL USES OR ID ZS, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT TREES WILL BE PRESERVED.
UM, AS WE ALL KNOW, UH, HEAT ISLAND EFFECTS ARE A BIG CONCERN AND THEY ARE A PARTICULARLY BIG CONCERN IN DISTRICT FIVE.
UM, SO ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO PRESERVE THOSE EXISTING CANOPIES I THINK IS VERY GOOD.
AND SO I APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO ADD THAT AS IT GOES TOWARDS COUNCIL, HOPEFULLY.
UH, SO AT THIS POINT I MOVE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER 11.
THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM 11 BY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES.
UH, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER'S ON MY LEFT.
ALRIGHT, OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS NUMBER 12.
CAN WE JUST DO A LITTLE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, UM, AS AMENDED ON THAT LAST ITEM FOR THE SITE PLAN? I'M SO SORRY.
AND COMMISSIONER FUENTES, YOU ACCEPT THE FRIENDLY A AMENDMENT.
I ACCEPT THAT AMENDMENT AND EVERYONE'S STILL IN AGREEMENT.
MY NAME IS JOSEPH VALLEJOS, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER 12 IS GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 4,000 BLOCK OF TIMBER HILL DRIVE GOING FROM R SIX S TO MF 25 WITH ALL OVERLAY STAYING THE SAME.
UH, STAFF MAILED 75 NOTICES ZERO IN FAVOR, SEVEN OPPOSED, UM, NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ONE IN FAVOR OUTSIDE THE 200 FEE AND ONE OPPOSED OUTSIDE THE 200 FEET.
STAFF DOES NOT FIND ANY EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS.
IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED PATTERN IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.
UM, THE EXISTING R SIX S, UM, IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE REQUESTED MF 25 IS ALSO AN APPROPRIATE ZONING.
THE SURROUNDING AREA ACCOMMODATES OTHER MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS, WHICH ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THE PROPOSED UM, DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THERE IS ALSO AN ESTABLISHED SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT BEHIND THE PROPERTY.
HOWEVER, THE PROPOSED MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT IS AN APPROPRIATE TRANSITION AND BUFFER FROM THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT TO THE SOUTH AND EAST.
ADDITIONALLY, THE REQUEST PROVIDES AN ADDITIONAL HOUSING TYPE FOR THE AREA ALIGNING WITH THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OF THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, WHICH AIMS TO PROVIDE HOUSING TO ACCOMMODATE THE CITY'S CURRENT POPULATION.
UM, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT.
IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE.
UH, CAROLINE MCDONALD AGAIN, UH, WITH BROWN AND MCDONALD.
100 NORTHEAST LOOP FOUR 10, SUITE 1385 HERE ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER AND APPLICANT.
UM, YOU MAY REMEMBER THIS ITEM WAS BEFORE YOU LAST MONTH ON, UH, NOVEMBER 7TH.
WE CONTINUED IT FOR A MONTH TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL MEETING WITH THE RESIDENTS TO OUR NORTHWEST.
UM, AND SO WITH THAT, THERE HAVE BEEN A FEW CHANGES TO THE APPLICATION THAT I
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WILL GO THROUGH HERE AND, AND UPDATE YOU.UH, GENERAL LOCATION WE ARE TO THE NORTHWEST OF INGRAM PARK MALL.
SO OFF OF, UH, TIMBER HILL DRIVE AND WBA ROAD.
THE PROPERTY SUBJECT TO THE ZONING BEFORE YOU TODAY IS, UH, OUTLINED IN BLUE.
HOWEVER, THE, UH, PROPERTY OWNER DOES OWN ABOUT 32 ACRES TOTAL.
UM, AND REMOVED THE, THE AREA OUTLINED IN GREEN, WHICH IS ABOUT 10 ACRES AND IS RESERVING THAT AS A NO BUILD AREA.
UH, AS STAFF INDICATED, THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY R SIX S AND WE ARE REQUESTING, UH, MF 25, SORRY, NEXT PAGE, SORRY.
UH, LAND USE, UH, WE ARE GENERAL URBAN TIER, WHICH, UH, PERMITS THE REQUESTED, UH, MULTI-FAMILY, UH, ZONING DISTRICT.
SO NO PLAN AMENDMENT WAS REQUIRED.
UM, THIS IS, UH, THE FIRST ITERATION OF THE SITE PLAN, AGAIN AT 22 ACRES, 32 ACRE HOLE.
AND THE 10 ACRES WILL BE LIT LEFT ALONE AS OPEN SPACE.
YOU CAN SEE, UH, GENEROUS LANDSCAPE BUFFERS AND SETBACKS, UM, WORTH WE'RE, YOU KNOW, THOUGHT OUT.
UM, AT THE INITIAL PLANNING STAGE.
UM, THERE'S ABOUT 50 FEET OF LANDSCAPE BUFFER AND THEN THERE'S A, A 25 FOOT, UH, UH, SETBACK ON TOP OF THAT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE TO THE FIRST BUILDING.
HERE AGAIN IS THE, THE SITE PLAN.
HERE'S A RENDERING OF WHAT, UM, THE PROPOSED BUILDINGS WOULD LOOK LIKE.
UH, SO COORDINATION WITH THE RESIDENTS THERE.
THERE IS NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, UH, WITHIN 200 FEET.
HOWEVER, THERE, AS YOU SAW FROM THOSE AERIALS, THERE ARE MANY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES TO OUR, OUR NORTH AND OUR WEST.
UM, SO WE HAD, UH, YOU KNOW, QUICKLY AFTER SUBMITTING THE ZONING APPLICATION, LOCATED A POINT OF CONTACT, UH, A VOICE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IF YOU WILL, MAILED OUR OWN NOTICES FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING AND HELD THAT MEETING ON, UM, NOVEMBER 2ND.
UM, AND WE, WE GOT SOME FEEDBACK FROM THEM, AGAIN, CAME BEFORE YOU ON NOVEMBER 7TH, AND THEN HAD A SECOND MEETING ON NOVEMBER 16TH WHERE WE HONED IN ON SOME PARTICULAR ISSUES.
IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, ONE OF THEM WAS, WAS TRAFFIC.
TIMBER HILL IS OFTEN USED AS A THOROUGHFARE.
UH, I DON'T THINK IT WAS EVER INTENDED FOR THAT.
UM, BUT JUST THIS LAST YEAR, CITY OF SAN ANTONIO WAS UNDERGOING ANALYSIS.
AND THIS WAS ONE OF THE PRELIMINARY PLANS DONE FOR, UM, A ROUNDABOUT.
UH, YOU COULD SEE HERE ON TIMBER HILL.
THAT'S ACTUALLY THE, THE OPENING TO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
UM, IT WAS, IT WAS EVENTUALLY NOT COMPLETED.
UM, AND SO WE WILL GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT IF THE ZONING IS APPROVED AND, AND, YOU KNOW, MEET WITH TRAFFIC AND SURROUNDING RESIDENTS ON A POTENTIAL SOLUTION FOR, UH, FOR A TIMBER HILL.
UM, SO AFTER OUR LAST MEETING, UH, THESE ARE SOME OF THE TERMS THAT WE AGREED TO, UH, WITH THE RESIDENTS, AGAIN, PRESERVING THAT 10 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE, UH, TO OUR NORTHEAST AS A NO BUILD AREA.
AND, UH, ON THE AERIAL YOU COULD SEE THAT'S WHERE A LARGE, UH, AMOUNT OF TREES ARE.
SO WE, WE WILL BE KEEPING THAT.
UM, WE WILL HAVE A, A 50 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER ON THE WEST AND NORTH SIDES.
AND THEN 25 FOOT BUILDING SETBACK AS WELL AS AN EIGHT FOOT MASONRY FENCE ON THE WEST AND NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, I DO WANNA ADD THAT IN ADDITION TO TRAFFIC, WHICH WE ARE COMMITTED TO WORKING ON DURING THE PLATING PROCESS, UM, DRAINAGE AND FLOODING WAS A VERY BIG ISSUE FOR THIS SITE.
UM, THERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE RIGHT NEXT TO THE CREEK AND DURING LARGE RAIN EVENT RAIN EVENTS THERE, THERE IS A LARGE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT FLOWS THROUGH.
UH, BEXAR COUNTY IS CURRENTLY UNDERGOING ALOMAR PROCESS TO START TO RECLAIM SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE LAND TO BRING IT OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN.
AND SO ONCE THAT IS COMPLETED, OUR ENGINEERS CAN SUBMIT THEIR DRAINAGE STUDY AND WE CAN, UH, EVALUATE AND PROVIDE FOR DETENTION ON SITE OR, YOU KNOW, OTHER, UH, MECHANISMS TO HELP ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE, THE WATER RUNOFF.
I DO WANT TO, UM, SUBMIT THIS, THIS IS A AMENDED SITE PLAN IF I COULD.
AND, AND I KNOW IT'S NOT TIED TO THE ZONING CASE 'CAUSE WE ARE JUST, YOU KNOW, AN MF 25 REQUEST.
UM, BUT ONE OF THE OTHER ITEMS AFTER OUR, OUR SECOND MEETING WAS LOWERING THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDINGS CLOSEST TO OUR WEST SIDE
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OF THE PROPERTY FROM THREE STORY TO TWO STORY EFFECTIVELY MAKING THEM, UM, TOWN HOMES.SO, UM, THIS WILL BE MORE OF A, A MIXED TYPE OF HOUSING.
UH, YOU KNOW, THERE WILL STILL BE THE APARTMENTS, BUT THEN TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE HEIGHT CONCERNS, UH, WE ARE BRINGING TO THOSE BUILDINGS THAT ARE FURTHEST WEST WITHIN 130 FEET OF THE PROPERTY LINE DOWN TO TWO STORIES.
UM, SO WE ARE, UH, COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH THE RESIDENTS AND, UM, COMMITTED TO WORKING ON SOLUTIONS FOR TRAFFIC AND DRAINAGE IN THE FUTURE.
WE'VE COME, I THINK, TO AN ACCEPTABLE SOLUTION TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS THAT WE CAN RIGHT NOW.
UM, AND WITH THAT, I, I DO RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL OF, OF THIS REQUEST.
AND, UM, WE DO HAVE THE, THE PROPERTY OWNER DEVELOPER AS WELL AS OUR ENGINEER HERE THAT COULD ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
UH, DO WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? YES, WE DO.
UM, BEFORE WE INVITE THAT PERSON UP, I DO WANNA JUST SPEAK TO MR. COMMISSIONER BUSMAN'S POINT ON THE SHORT TERM RENTALS.
UM, SO THERE IS, NOW IF YOU NOTICED IN THE STAFF REPORT A DISCLAIMER ABOUT IF THEY'RE SEEKING A ADDITIONAL DENSITY, WHETHER IT BE FOR MULTIFAMILY OR SINGLE FAMILY, AND ADDING A CONDITIONAL USE TO HAVE MORE DWELLING UNITS THAT DOES NOT EVER ZONING, DOES NOT EVER ASSURE A SHORT-TERM RENTAL.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR THAT, UH, UH, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT IN ZONING, BUT IT DOES NOT, IT WOULD NEVER ZONING, WOULD NEVER PERMIT A SHORT-TERM RENTAL BY RIGHT.
THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH A WHOLE ENTIRE SEPARATE PROCESS AND THEY HAVE TO MEET THE DENSITY REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A QUICK MOMENT TO BE SURE AND POINT THAT OUT TO EVERYONE.
UH, BUT WE DO HAVE A MR. UH, MR. EUGENE CORONADO, AND WE JUST HAVE A SPEAKER, NO VOICEMAILS.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE, UM, TWO VOICEMAILS AS WELL.
OKAY, WELL, WE'LL, WE'LL HEAR THE VOICEMAILS AFTER THE SPEAKER.
WE RESIDE AT 46 11 CANTER BROOK.
I DID MAKE SOME NEIGHBORHOOD MAPS.
I DON'T HAVE THE THE IQ TO DO IT, TO PUT IT ON THE COMPUTER, HOWEVER, THAT'S THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT THERE.
SO THAT'S SAMELY TO SAY THERE'S 800 AND, UH, PLUS CARS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
THERE'S NO OTHER ROOM FOR, FOR, UH, ENLARGING THIS THING HERE.
IT STARTS ON WESTBACK AND IT PASSES GRISSOM ROAD ALL THE WAY TO EBNER.
Y'ALL PROBABLY DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT, BUT ON HENER ROAD, A LOT OF PEOPLE ON HENER AND BANDERA TAKE A LEFT AND THEY ALL COME DOWN THAT WAY SO THEY CAN BEAT THE TRAFFIC OF, OF BANDERA ROAD.
UH, AND THEN WE'RE ADJACENT TO LEON VALLEY.
SO YEAH, WOULD'VE TO NEGOTIATE WITH LEON VALLEY TO SEE IF THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO MAKE A SECOND STREET FOR US, BECAUSE I KNOW ONE EXIT IS NOT GONNA MAKE IT.
UH, IF YOU LOOK DOWN TOWARDS THE RIGHT HAND CORNER, THERE'S WHERE THE EXIT'S GONNA BE AND THERE'S A, A VIA, UH, A PICKUP STATION THERE PRETTY GOOD WITHIN A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE HANDICAPPED THAT ARE LIVING IN THE APARTMENTS, THEY ARE USING THAT.
THERE'S, I'VE SEEN AT LEAST FOUR OR FIVE PEOPLE USING THAT ONE.
UH, AND THEN OF COURSE THERE'S REGULAR PEDESTRIANS THAT THAT USE, UH, THAT THE BRIDGE, YOU CAN'T EXPAND THE BRIDGE ANYMORE THAN WHAT IT IS, BUT THEY'RE GONNA NEED AT LEAST 50 YARDS TO GET OUT OF THAT THING.
SHE SHOWED US THE ROUNDABOUT, IT'LL NEVER HAPPEN.
IT'S NOT BIG ENOUGH RIGHT NOW.
THEY PUT TWO MEDIUMS, ONE GOING WEST WITH A LEFT HAND TURN, ONE GOING EAST STRAIGHT.
SO WE HAVE TWO STRAIGHT LANES RIGHT NOW.
THE BUSES IN FRONT OF YOU, YOU'RE GONNA WAIT OR WHATEVER ELSE THEY'RE GONNA DO.
THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO SIT AND WAIT.
SO THAT IS A BIG CONCERN AND AND THAT'S A MAJOR THROW, YOU KNOW, THROW HERE BECAUSE BANDERA AND, AND, UH, COLLIBRA, THEY'RE NOT GONNA CARRY ALL THAT IF ONE IS TOO FAR AWAY AND THE OTHER ONE, THEY DON'T REALLY CARE MUCH ABOUT IT.
UH, BUT PEOPLE THAT, THAT, THAT USE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD OR THAT, THAT, UH, WAY RIGHT THERE, IT'S GONNA BE DIFFICULT FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE RIGHT NOW WITH THE MEDIUMS THAT THEY PUT ON THE FLOOR RIGHT NOW, AND THEY'RE ALREADY, THEY'RE THERE.
I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY HAVEN'T OPENED THEM UP.
UH, TRUCKS CANNOT TURN LEFT HAND TO THE LEFT.
THEY MIGHT, IF IT'S A, A BOBTAIL OR SOMETHING, BUSES CANNOT TURN TO THE LEFT FROM THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO PUTTING A SCHOOL BUS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AIN'T GONNA WORK, UH, GOING RIGHT OR WEST.
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ONE LANE? TRUCKS NEED TWO LANES TO TURN, BUSES NEED TWO LANES TO TURN.AND I KNOW THAT BECAUSE I HAVE A COMMERCIAL DRIVER'S LICENSE, I'VE DONE BOTH OF THOSE SKILLS AND YOU TRY TO SQUEEZE EVERY BIT OF, OF, UH, ROAD THAT YOU CAN'T TO MAKE YOUR TURNS OR YOU'RE GONNA BE BUYING SOMEBODY'S FENDERS.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S, YOU KNOW WHAT I WANNA SAY.
THE OTHER THING WOULD BE THAT THE, UH, UNFINISHED YES, THAT'S THE, HOW ABOUT HAVE THEY EVEN TALKED TO THE NORTHSIDE SCHOOL DISTRICT? THAT IS A NORTHSIDE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
WE WILL, WE CAN ASK THAT QUESTION.
AND IF WE COULD HAVE ALSO VIA AND SAWS, BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO UNDERNEATH THE LEON CREEK TO HOOK UP WITH THE REST OF THE WATER THAT'S ACROSS THE STREET.
I LIVE AT 68 59 BROOKFIELD 7 8 2 3 8.
THIS IS, UM, CONCERNING THE ITEM NUMBER TWO ENDING IN 2 6 4, THE REZONING FOR SOME APARTMENT COMPLEXES ON OUR STREET ON TIMBER HILL.
UM, MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS THE TRAFFIC.
I DO NOT AGREE WITH THESE APARTMENTS GOING UP IN A, IN AN ALREADY CONGESTED AREA.
IT IS BRINGING MORE AND MORE, UH, CARS, TRAFFIC PEOPLE TO AN AREA THAT'S ALREADY SUPER CONGESTED.
AND I JUST TOTAL, UH, CARS, TRAFFIC PEOPLE TO AN AREA THAT'S ALREADY SUPER CONGESTED.
AND I JUST TOTALLY DISAGREE WITH THIS REZONING AND I'D APPRECIATE THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER THE FACT THAT WE HAVE BEEN LIVING HERE FOR A VERY LONG TIME AND HAVING TO DEAL WITH THE TRAFFIC.
THERE'S ONLY ONE STREET THAT CONNECTS HAM, TWO WARS BLOCK TO THE MALL.
THAT STREET IS ALWAYS BACKED UP.
THERE'S NO OTHER STREET THAT LEADS THAT, UH, ALLOWS PEOPLE TO GO FROM ONE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE, OR ONE AREA OF THE DOWN TO THE OTHER.
HI, MY NAME IS STEPHANIE SCHULTZ.
MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 325-1030.
MY ADDRESS IS 6 8 5 4 BROOKFIELD AND I AM IN THE TWIN CREEK SUBDIVISION THAT IS ON TIMBER HILL BETWEEN WBA AND GRISSOM ROAD.
MY CONCERNS WITH THE REZONING, UH, THE MAIN CONCERN IS THE TRAFFIC.
WE HAVE THOUSANDS OF CARS THAT GO THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ALREADY, AND OUR TRAFFIC THROUGH OUR SUBDIVISION IS ALREADY TERRIBLE.
I HAVE LIVED IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD FOR ALMOST THREE DECADES, AND I HAVE SEEN THE TRAFFIC GROW MORE AND MORE EVERY YEAR.
AND AS A HOMEOWNER, IT TAKES US SO LONG TO GET OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN IT'S RUSH HOUR.
IT'S EVEN WORSE WHEN IT'S FROM THANKSGIVING TO NEW YEAR WHERE WE HAVE TO LEAVE 20 TO 30 MINUTES EARLIER TO GET OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE IT'S BUMPER TO BUMPER TRAFFIC.
OUR MAIN STREET ON TIMBER HILL WAS NOT DESIGNED TO BE A PASS THROUGH FOR PEOPLE TO GET TO WBA AND FOUR 10 OR CBRA AND 1604 TO ALAMO RANCH OR TO BANDERA AND LEON VALLEY.
WE CANNOT HANDLE THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT COMES IN NOW, AND PUTTING AN APARTMENT COMPLEX WITH THE MAIN ENTRANCE BY THE BRIDGE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SUBDIVISION IS GONNA MAKE IT A HUNDRED TIMES WORSE.
WE HAVE PROBLEMS WITH SPEEDING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN TRAPPED IN HIS HOUSE ON TIMBER HILL, AND UNFORTUNATELY HE PASSED AWAY FROM THE FIRE AND THE EXPLOSION, AND THIS WAS ABOUT SIX, SEVEN YEARS AGO.
AND WE HAVE PEOPLE GO THROUGH THE STOP SIGNS ALL THE TIME, SPEEDING.
KIDS CAN GET INJURED AND WE DON'T NEED TO ADD TO THE TRAFFIC PROBLEMS WE ALREADY HAVE WHEN OUR STREET CANNOT SUSTAIN IT.
AND THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE DONE A YEAR AGO DON'T HELP THE NEIGHBORHOOD AT ALL.
I ALSO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE WILDLIFE.
IT'S BEING PUSHED INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND TO OUR HOUSES, UH, MORE THAN IT ALREADY WAS WITH THE APARTMENTS ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF OUR ENTRANCE TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FROM THE GM SIDE.
AND THEN ADDING MORE IS GONNA PUSH THEM MORE EVEN INSIDE, BUT EVEN MORE, I KNOW THAT THEY SAY THAT ANIMALS AND WILDLIFE WILL MOVE TO WHERE THEY NEED TO, BUT WHEN THEY'RE GETTING PUSHED MORE AND MORE INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THERE'S NOTHING AROUND HERE FOR THEM TO GO TO THAT IS LIMITED
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FOR THEM ON WHERE THEY CAN CREATE A NEW HOME.THE OTHER CONCERN I HAVE IS GOING TO BE THE, UM, PROPERTY VALUES FOR THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE IMMEDIATELY IN FRONT OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEX ENTRANCE AS WELL AS THE SIX FEET WALL RETAINING WALLS.
THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING AND APARTMENTS THAT ARE GONNA BE THREE STORIES HIGH AND THAT PROVIDES NO PRIVACY TO THE HOUSES THAT ARE IMMEDIATELY IN JEOPARDY OF THIS HOUSING UNIT THAT IS GOING TO BE BUILT.
THE OTHER CONCERN IS THE POPULATION AND THE CRIME, AS WELL AS THE DRAINAGE PROBLEMS FROM THE A HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD THAT IMPACTED US IN 1998 AS WELL.
THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO MY CONCERNS.
AND THAT'S IT FOR PUBLIC SPEAKERS.
ALL RIGHT, MS. MCDONALD, WOULD YOU LIKE A OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL? YES, PLEASE.
UM, AGAIN, I, I WANNA REITERATE, APPRECIATE ALL OF THE RESIDENT'S TIME AND, AND MEETING WITH US AND INPUT.
NOBODY KNOWS THE AREA BETTER THAN THEY DO.
UM, AND I'D, I'D LIKE TO THINK THAT WE DID PROPOSE, UM, SOLUTIONS TO, TO SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS.
UM, WE CAME DOWN FROM THE HEIGHT ON, ON THE, THE APARTMENTS THAT WOULD, UH, YOU KNOW, DIRECTLY FACE THE RESIDENTS.
UM, AND AS FAR AS TRAFFIC, WE, WE'VE HEARD THAT TIME AND TIME AGAIN.
UM, ROUGH NUMBERS FOR OUR ROUGH PROPORTIONALITY.
IT, IT'S LOOKING LIKE IT'S GONNA BE ABOUT 500,000 THAT THE DEVELOPER WILL NEED TO CONTRIBUTE TO, TO TRA TO ADDRESS TRAFFIC BASED ON THE DEVELOPMENT.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S 500,000 THAT THAT WOULDN'T BE SEEN.
UM, BUT FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT, AND IT'S NOT A FIX ALL, OF COURSE, UM, BUT IT WILL HELP.
UM, AND LASTLY, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS WILDLIFE, WE ARE PRESERVING THE 10 ACRES, BUT THEN AGAIN, UM, HOUSING IS NECESSARY.
UM, THIS MEETS THE SHIP, UM, YOU KNOW, OUTLINE AND ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING IS NEEDED.
AND I THINK WE'RE PROVIDING A MIX OF, OF BOTH APARTMENTS AND TOWN HOMES.
SO, UM, AGAIN, I HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AND WE, UH, REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
UM, THIS IS A DISTRICT SEVEN CASE, SO IT FALLS TO ME FOR QUESTIONS.
UM, AND I GUESS THE, THE FIRST QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, MS. MCDONALD, IF YOU CAN COME BACK UP, SORRY.
UM, MR. CORONADO BROUGHT UP A QUESTION ABOUT, UM, NOTIFYING THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
HAS THAT BEEN DONE OR, YES, SIR.
THEY WERE ALSO INVITED TO BOTH OF OUR, OUR PUBLIC MIRRORING MEETINGS.
UNFORTUNATELY, THEY DID NOT ATTEND.
AND I WILL NOTE THAT THERE ARE NO CLOSURES PROPOSED AS FAR AS I'M AWARE, FOR THIS PARTICULAR DISTRICT.
SO, AND JUST TO ADD ON THAT, WE ALSO DO SEND LETTERS WHEN WE SEND OUT NOTIFICATION FOR, UM, RESPONSES AND WHATNOT, THE ISDS ARE ALSO NOTIFIED.
UM, AND FROM THE SITE PLAN, THE ONLY, THERE'S ONLY A SINGULAR ENTRANCE, IS THAT CORRECT? THERE IS EMERGENCY ACCESS, UH, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN PLACE THAT UNDER THE MICROSCOPE AGAIN.
IS IT UNDER CANTER BROOK THEN? YES, YES SIR.
SO IT WILL, THERE IS, UM, A ROUNDABOUT PROPOSED AT THE BEGINNING OR THE ENTRANCE OFF OF TIM TIMBER HILL THAT WILL PROVIDE AN IN AND OUT AND THEN THANK YOU.
AND THEN THERE IS, UM, EMERGENCY ACCESS UP ON CANTER BROOK, SO THAT'S PRIMARY EMERGENCY.
I THINK THESE, FOR RIGHT NOW, THESE ARE ALL THE, THE, THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.
UM, AND SO I WILL ASK MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER WHITSETT, YOU MENTIONED THE ROUNDABOUT, BUT THEN EARLIER YOU SAID THE ROUNDABOUT WAS CANCELED.
YEAH, SO FORGIVE ME, TWO, TWO POTENTIAL ROUNDABOUTS.
THERE WAS ONE PLANNED BY THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO OFF OF TIMBERHILL.
UM, AND THEY QUITE FRANKLY RAN OUT OF MONEY, UH, TO EFFECTUATE THAT AND MAKE IT HAPPEN.
UM, AND SO I, MAYBE I MISSPOKE, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S A DOUBLE ENTRANCE ON TIMBER HILL FOR OUR DEVELOPMENT.
SO AN IN, IN AND OUT, IF YOU WILL.
SO YOUR $500,000 IS GOING TOWARD STREET WIDENING OR WHAT? WE DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S GONNA GO AT THIS POINT, BUT BASED ON THE NUMBERS, UM, THAT WE'RE RUNNING FOR OUR TRIPS, UH, IT'S ABOUT $500,000.
UM, AND THAT DURING THE PLATTING PROCESS IS WHEN OUR ENGINEERS WILL MEET WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AND THEIR TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT AND THEY'LL DECIDE WHERE THAT IS ALLOCATED.
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UH, IS THAT ALL YOUR QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER WHITSETT? YEAH.UH, OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? NONE.
WE'LL, WE'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER REYES.
SO BORDER BROOK RIGHT NOW IS A STOP CONDITION.
I'M GONNA ASK OUR ENGINEER TO COME UP.
COMMISSIONS GARZA 32 0 1, CHERRY RIDGE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS.
SO RIGHT NOW, A BORDER BROOK IS A STOP CONDITION, THE ROAD CONDITION, THE LEVEL OF SERVICE, BORDER BROOK UHHUH
AND THAT'S WHERE THE, THE ACCESS POINT WILL BE, CORRECT? YES.
DO YOU FEEL WITH THE ADDED TRIPS THAT A SIGNAL WARRANT WILL, WILL IT WARRANT A SIGNAL IF A ROUNDABOUT CANNOT BE PUT IN, UM, BASED ON THE PROXIMITY OF THE HOUSING? UH, I DON'T FORESEE A STREETLIGHT THERE.
I DO THINK THAT THE ROUNDABOUT COULD BE MORE EFFICIENT AS IT ELIMINATES THIS, THE ACTUAL STOPPING.
UM, I FEAR THAT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AT ONE POINT HAD TO DO A-T-I-A-A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AND THEY WERE PROBABLY RECOMMENDING THE ROUNDABOUT AS THE BEST SOLUTION.
SO WE KNOW THAT THERE IS A SOLUTION THERE, BUT THERE WASN'T FUNDING FOR IT.
SO THE ER PERSONALITY IS WHERE I THINK WE CAN COME IN AND, UM, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT THAT AND, AND MAYBE WE CAN MAKE IT HAPPEN.
AND I'M PRETTY SURE THAT THAT WILL BE MORE EFFICIENT THAN THE STOP SIGN THAT IS CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW MIGHT NOT BE THE GREATEST SOLUTION WHERE IT WILL FIX EVERYTHING, BUT IT WILL DEFINITELY HELP THE TRAFFIC FLOW.
YEAH, THE ONE RIGHT AT THE, UH, ENTRANCE.
AND ANOTHER THING IS, UM, TIMBER HILL IS A, IS A TYPE B STREET WITH HOUSES FRONTING.
SO, UM, BASED ON DESIGN PARAMETERS, I, I THINK THAT THAT STREET HAS UP TO ABOUT FOUR 4,000 TRIPS.
UM, AND AS THE HOMEOWNER RECENTLY SAID THAT THERE WAS ABOUT 400 HOMES, I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT HAS CAPACITY, BUT I'M SAYING THAT IT, IT COULD BE A LEVEL OF SERVICE WHERE, UH, IT'S STILL FUNCTIONAL, BUT IT'S NOT THE GREATEST.
SO ALL THAT WILL BE FIGURED OUT AT THE TYPE OF THE TIA THAT THE DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH AT THE PLANNING PROCESS.
SO YOU ANSWERED PART OF MY QUESTION.
SO THE BASE TRAFFIC COUNT IS 4,000? NO, I'M SAYING THE CAPACITY OF A TYPE B STREET IS UP TO ABOUT 4,000.
I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER OF WHAT THE TROOPS ARE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE DIDN'T DO THE TIA, BUT, UM, DURING THE, UH, PLANNING PROCESS, WE WILL BE REQUIRED TO DO A TIA AND, UH, I'M SURE THAT THE OUTCOME COULD POTENTIALLY LOOK LIKE THAT, WHERE THE ROUNDABOUT IS THE MOST EFFICIENT SOLUTION.
SO AGAIN, UH, CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AT ONE POINT PROPOSED THAT, BUT YOU KNOW, DUE TO THE LACK OF FUNDING, IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
AND WITH THE DEVELOPMENT, THE PROPORTIONALITY NUMBERS, UM, BASED ON THE, UH, NUMBER OF UNITS THAT WE HAVE AND THE ANTICIPATED TR UH, TRAFFIC, UH, THAT WE ANTICIPATE IT'S COMING AT ABOUT $500,000 THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PITCH IN.
AND I THINK THAT'S SUFFICIENT BUDGET TO ACCOMPLISH THAT ROUNDABOUT OR MAKE ADJUSTMENTS.
DO YOU, DO YOU THINK THERE'S ENOUGH RIGHT OF WAY FOR SHORT TERM SOLUTIONS LIKE RETRIP TO ALLOW? UH, WE'RE LIMITED TO BE HONEST, DUE TO THE PROXIMITY TO THE EXISTING HOME.
BUT, UM, ON OUR ENTRANCE, THE LITTLE FURNISH THAT WE HAVE, I MEAN, WE'RE RIGHT NEXT TO THE END OF THE BRIDGE, SO I SEE THAT BEING A CONSTRAINT.
BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO DURING THE PLANNING PROCESS, I MEAN, WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO COORDINATE WITH THE CITY TO, TO ACCOMPLISH THAT.
ACTUALLY, IT WAS ME, UH, COMMISSIONER MR. CHAIR.
ALL OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS WILL HAPPEN AT THE TIME OF PLATTING AFTER THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS STUDY IS SUBMITTED.
AND MITIGATION REQUIREMENTS WILL BE REQUIRED, UM, TYPICALLY BASED OFF OF THAT STUDY AND THEY WILL BE ENFORCED AND, UM, INSPECTED TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT APPROVED STUDY.
UH, SOME OF THOSE MITIGATIONS CAN BE RES STRIPING, CAN BE, THE ROUNDABOUT CAN BE A TRAFFIC SIGNAL, BUT UNTIL WE ACTUALLY CONDUCT THAT REVIEW, WE'RE NOT QUITE SURE WHAT THE OUTCOME WILL BE AT THE MOMENT.
YOU ARE REQUIRED TO KEEP THE VELOCITIES BASELINE, YOU CAN'T INCREASE THE RUNOFF VELOCITIES, CORRECT? CORRECT.
AS THEY GO INTO HU CREEK? CORRECT.
WE, WE CANNOT INCREASE THE RUNOFF GOING OUT OF OUR SITE.
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UM, DUMP STORM WATER FROM UPSTREAM TO OUR SITE WHERE WE WILL HAVE TO MITIGATE THAT AND CONVEY THAT FLOW PROBABLY ON THE GROUND STRUCTURE AND THEN DAYLIGHT INSIDE THE FLOODPLAIN.UM, AS MS. MCDONALD SAID AT ONE POINT, UM, BEAR COUNTY'S WORKING ON A, UH, L MAR ALREADY 'CAUSE THE CL WAS ALREADY APPROVED AND THEN THE BREACH WAS BUILT, AND THEN THERE'S STILL MORE IMPROVEMENTS, UM, UP AND DOWNSTREAM OF THE BRIDGE THAT IT'S IN THE PROCESS.
IT'S BEEN ABOUT THREE YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN PERSONALLY COORDINATING WITH BEXAR COUNTY ON THIS.
AND, UH, THEY'RE TELLING ME THAT IT LOOKS LIKE THIS COMING YEAR THEY MIGHT HAVE A FINAL SOLUTION ON THE LOW MAR.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HUEY QUESTIONS.
SO I ALSO SHARE THE SAME CONCERNS AS THE RESIDENTS AND, UH, SOME OF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HAVE REGARDING TRAFFIC.
UM, I THINK THE, THE TIMBER HILLS ALREADY CONGESTED, AND IT'S NOT JUST FROM THE TIMBER HILL NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT FROM CONTRIBUTING NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND TIMBER HILL.
AND I'M GUILTY AS BEING ONE OF THEM THAT USES THAT.
AND SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE ALL 4,000 OF US ARE ON THE ROAD AT THE SAME TIME.
AND, YOU KNOW, I, I REALLY WOULD'VE LIKED TO HAVE SEEN SOME TRAFFIC ANALYSIS HAVING BEEN DONE SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A REALLY GOOD CONVERSATION.
'CAUSE NOW IT'S JUST SPECULATION AS TO, WELL, YOU HAVE HOW MANY UNITS, UH, PLANNED? 400 UNITS? NO, UH, 360 IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, RIGHT.
SO NOW WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THOSE ADDITIONAL RESIDENTS CONTRIBUTING TO THIS CHOKE POINT THAT WE'RE DEVELOPING, AND YET THE CITY HAS ALREADY DONE SOME, YOU KNOW, UH, SOME TURN LANE CONSTRUCTION THERE, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW.
WE CAN HAVE A INTELLIGENT CONVERSATION AND MAKE KNOWLEDGEABLE DISCU, UH, DECISIONS NOT HAVING YOUR TRAFFIC ANALYSIS.
I, I KNOW IT'S KIND OF COMPLICATED TO, UM, I, I KNOW THE DESIRE TO WANT THAT KIND OF INFORMATION, ESPECIALLY AS PART OF A REZONING, BUT IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT THAT IS GOING TO BE A REQUIREMENT OF THE PLANNING AND INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, PORTION, THE, THE BUILDING PERMIT PORTION OF THE PROJECT.
THE ONLY MINIMUM THAT THEY'RE ALLOW, THAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT AS PART OF A ZONING CASE IS A WORKSHEET.
AND THE WORKSHEET IS JUST GOING TO TELL US, UM, THE MINIMUM INFORMATION NEEDED, WHICH IS BASICALLY THAT A TRAFFIC STUDY WILL BE DONE.
SO, UM, IT, IT DOESN'T HINDER YOUR DECISION BECAUSE YOUR DECISION IS BASED ON EXISTING LAND USE AND PROPOSED ZONING.
SO IF YOU DO NOT FEEL THAT THAT'S SUITED FOR THAT, THEN THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD BE LOOKING AT.
BUT THE, YOU HAVE TO KIND OF JUST TRUST THE PROCESS THAT ONCE IT GETS TO THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTAL, UM, LEVELS OF REVIEW, THAT THOSE ITEMS WILL BE COVERED.
AND, AND COMMISSIONER, IF I CAN ADD JUST ONE MORE, THIS IS MELISSA RAMIREZ, I'M SORRY.
UM, THAT TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WILL BE SUBMITTED AS PART OF THE PLATT REQUIRED PLAT, WHICH THAT IS THE SCOPE OF PURVIEW FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND THAT PLATT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED BY PLANNING COMMISSION AS WELL.
I ANTICIPATE IT'S GONNA BE MORE THAN A MINOR PLAT.
THEN JUST TO EXPAND A LITTLE BIT ON THAT, THE TIA, BASED ON THE TRIPS THAT WE ANTICIPATE, THE LEVEL OF, UM, THE TIA IS PROBABLY GONNA BE LEVEL TWO, UM, IF NOT THREE, BUT THE EXTENT OF THAT STUDY IS PROBABLY GONNA BE THE ONE AND A HALF MILES.
SO IF, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO IMPROVE NOT ONLY THIS INTERSECTION, BUT YOU KNOW, FURTHER TO BENDERA OR WARBUCK, UH, GZA, I MEAN, THEN THAT'S GONNA BE PART OF THE TIA WHERE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOME OF THOSE, UM, FUNDING FROM THE ROOFER PERSONALITY CAN BE ALLOCATED TO OTHER INTERSECTIONS TO ALSO IMPROVE THE FLOW, NOT ONLY AT OUR SITE LOCATION, BUT IN THE VICINITY AS WELL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.
UH, OH, COMMISSIONER ORTIZ, ACTUALLY, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
I'M TRYING TO SEE IF I CAN TRY TO HELP WITH THIS TRAFFIC.
THE, WOULD THE APPLICANT BE MAYBE CONSIDERED MF 18 INSTEAD OF AN MF 25 TO REDUCE THE MAXIMUM DENSITY PER UNIT? YES.
THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD AMEND TO TODAY.
SO THAT WOULD, THE TOTAL NUMBER WOULD DROP IT DOWN FROM, WHAT WAS IT, 300 SOMETHING TO 2 88? I THINK WITH THE MF 25, WE WERE ALLOWED LIKE FOUR 60 ROUGHLY.
UM, WE WERE PLANNING ON 360, UM, AND THEN WITH AMENDING IT HERE TODAY THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BRING IT
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DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY.AND YOUR APPLICANT WOULD CONSIDER POSSIBLY AMENDING IT AT RIGHT NOW TO AN MF 18? YES, SIR.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, THE, THE, THE LAST QUESTION I HAVE IS THE ENTRANCE IS A, THE, THE MAIN ENTRANCE IS ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL.
ALRIGHT TO ME FOR A MOTION AND DISCUSSION.
UM, FIRST, THIS IS A INTERESTING AND DIFFICULT CASE THAT I PROBABLY SAY BEFORE EVERY ONE OF MY CASES AND OTHER COMMISSIONERS SAY THE SAME THING, BUT IT'S, IT'S UNFORTUNATELY IT'S TRUE.
UM, THIS, UH, PROPERTY ACTUALLY SITS RIGHT AT THE BOUNDARY OF DISTRICT SEVEN.
AND THEN COMMISSIONER HUEY'S, UH, DISTRICT SIX TIMBER HILL IS ACTUALLY THE, THE DIVIDING LINE BETWEEN, BETWEEN OUR TWO DISTRICTS.
UM, AND, AND WITHOUT GOING INTO TOO MUCH HISTORY, UH, I REMEMBER WHEN TIMBER HILL WAS A LOT LESS CONGESTED THAN IT WAS, UM, HAVING HIGH SCHOOL FRIENDS WHO LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD 40 YEARS AGO.
UM, AND OVER TIME, UH, UH, I SAW THE EXPANSION OF THE, OF THE ROAD.
THEY TOOK DOWN THE LITTLE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD MONUMENT AT THE FRONT, EXPANDED THE ROAD AT A TURN LANE, THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND UNFORTUNATELY IT, IT'S A ROAD THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE HOUSES FRONT THE ROAD.
UM, FOR ME, IF, IF IT WAS THROUGH A, A, A NEIGHBORHOOD YOU MIGHT SAY, WHERE THE HOUSES DID NOT FRONT ONTO THE ROAD WHERE IT WAS A A A, A MORE MAJOR ROAD AND, AND THE RESIDENTIAL STREETS EMPTIED ONTO THE ROAD, UM, I COULD SEE THIS HAVING REALLY GOOD POTENTIAL.
UM, I APPRECIATE THE, THE, THE APPLICANT'S HEARING THE CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORS.
I WAS AT THE LAST NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, UM, AND, UH, WAS WELL ATTENDED, UM, AND A LOT OF OPPOSITION, SOME OF WHICH I, I DID NOT AGREE TO BE HONEST WITH.
UM, I APPRECIATE THAT THE, THE APPLICANT WAS WILLING TO GO DOWN TO TWO STORIES, LESSEN THE DENSITY A LITTLE BIT.
UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S JUST REALLY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO GET OVER THE MAIN ENTRANCE BEING ONTO A, UH, AN ESSENTIALLY NEIGHBORHOOD STREET.
UM, IF IT EXITED DIRECTLY ONTO WBA, I THINK THIS WOULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, A NO BRAINER.
UM, BUT IT'S HEARING FROM THE NEIGHBORS AND, AND THEIR DISCUSSIONS AND, AND STORIES FROM THE OTHER APARTMENTS BUILT ACROSS, UH, TIMBER HILL.
UM, AT THIS POINT, UM, LET'S SEE.
I THINK AT THIS POINT I'M GOING TO, TO MAKE A MOTION FOR DENIAL.
ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION FOR DENIAL MADE BY ME.
WE'LL, DO WE WANNA START ON THE LEFT? COMMISSIONER BUSANTE WANTS TO SPEAK.
I, I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE CONCERNS AND THE CONCERNS REGARDING, UH, TIMBERLINE.
YOU KNOW, I THINK RIGHT NOW IF IT'S ONLY THE 22 ACRES AND IT'S AN R FOUR, WE'RE LOOKING AT 240 UNITS APPROXIMATELY AS OF RIGHT.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, THOSE WILL HAVE OTHER ISSUES, PERHAPS MORE CARS THAN EVEN SOME APARTMENTS WOULD AND THEY WOULD CAUSE MORE TRAFFIC ISSUES POTENTIALLY.
AND SO WHILE I UNDERSTAND THE NEIGHBOR'S CONCERNS
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AND I UNDERSTAND, UH, THE CHAIR'S CONCERNS, UM, I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? UH, COMMISSIONER ORTIZ, I, UM, GO AHEAD.
OH, I WAS GONNA SAY, I'M GONNA KIND OF PIGGYBACK OFF, UH, COMMISSIONER BUSANTE AND, UM, I THINK THAT THE APPLICANT WILLING TO GIVE MONEY TO TRY TO FIX THE ERROR WHERE THERE WAS NO FUNDING ON THAT STREET TO TRY TO GET THAT SOMEWHAT CORRECTED.
ALSO, THE FACT THAT, UM, THE LOWER DENSITY, NOW IT'S HARD FOR ME TO SUPPORT THE MF 25.
I'D BE WILLING TO SUPPORT THE MF 18 TO REDUCE THAT, AT LEAST FOR THE NEIGHBORS IN THAT AREA.
BUT I WON'T BE, UH, SUPPORTING THE DENIAL.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER BONOS, IT LOOKED LIKE YOU WERE GONNA SAY.
I I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
I THINK WE GOTTA FIND OTHER SOLUTIONS AND LET THE PROCESS GO WITH WHETHER IT'S NEW TRAFFIC LIGHTS, ALL THAT THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE ZONING, UH, PROCESS.
ALRIGHT, OTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER WOODSON? I'M IN THE SAME BOAT OF NOT SUPPORTING IT, BUT I I, IF THEY GO FOR MF 25, I'M AGAINST IT, BUT THE MF 18, I WOULD, I'M IN FAVOR OF GOTCHA.
OTHER, OTHER COMMISSIONERS? NONE.
I DIDN'T EVEN ASK WHAT I WAS LIKE HE'S GONNA, BUT YOU GAVE ME THE LOOK.
SO I, I I UNDERSTAND WHERE MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS ARE COMING FROM, BUT YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT THIS AS, YOU KNOW, ZONINGS IN PERPETUITY.
SO IF WE AGREE TO LET, UH, THIS APPLICANT GO WITH AN MF 25, WE ARE NOW ASKING THE REST OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION.
AND IF THEY DON'T COME UP WITH A SOLUTION, WE CONTINUE TO PUNISH THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ALONG TIMBER HILL.
AND THAT TO ME, MY FRIENDS, IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE.
ALRIGHT, SO FINAL DISCUSSIONS.
UH, A MOTION WAS FOR DENIAL BY BEING SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HUEY.
UM, YOU KNOW, I ACTUALLY REALLY LOVE CASES WHERE WE HAVE DEBATE.
UH, IS THERE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER BY SOMEONE WHO DID NOT VOTE FOR THE DENIAL? MOTION TO RECONSIDER.
THERE'S A MOTION TO RECONSIDER.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR, UH, WAIT, WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THAT.
VOTE ON THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER BY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE.
CHAIR SIPES? NO, I THINK IT PASSES.
ALRIGHT, SO THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR A MOTION.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
CAN, CAN A MOTION HAVE AN, IS IT, DOES A MOTION HAVE TO BE STRAIGHT APPROVAL OR CAN THE MOTION CHANGE WHAT THE APPROVAL WAS FOR? IT CAN, IT CAN CHANGE.
YOU CAN, IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU'RE ASKING CAN IT BE AMENDED TO MF 18? IT CAN BE, YES.
THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M ASKING.
AND MR. CHAIR, I MOVE FOR APPROVAL AS AMENDED AT MF 18.
UM, LET'S SEE, IS THERE SOME? NO.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER MR. MONTE IS, UH, MADE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AT MF 18.
OKAY, THERE IS A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ.
DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE
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BRIEFLY.AND, UM, PRIMARILY THIS IS GONNA BE DIRECTED AT THE APPLICANT, UH, AS YOU PROBABLY CAN FIGURE OUT FROM MY COMMENTS IN DENIAL AND IN MOVING FOR APPROVAL OF THE MF 18, YOU KNOW, THE EXPECTATION IS THESE UNITS ARE GONNA BE AROUND WHAT'S EXISTING RIGHT NOW.
UH, SO HOWEVER YOU END UP DOING THAT OUTSIDE, I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS NOT REQUIRING A SITE PLAN.
WE'RE NOT RESTRICTING THAT, BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO EXPLORE THAT AS YOU HEAD TOWARDS CITY COUNCIL.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO YOU IN GETTING THIS DONE.
ANY ORDER TO THE DISCUSSION? LOOKING LEFT.
LOOKING RIGHT, LOOKING AT YOU, COMMISSIONER.
ALRIGHT, I, I HAVE NO OTHER DISCUSSION, UM, AS WELL.
MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL AT M MF 18.
UM, ITEM PASSES WITH AMENDMENT.
UM, IT IS NOW TIME FOR OUR NORMAL THREE O'CLOCK LATE.
THREE O'CLOCK BREAK SO THE ZONING COMMISSION WILL BE ADJOURNED FOR ABOUT 10 MINUTES.
THE TIME IS 3 0 7 AND WE WILL BE BACK.
ALRIGHT, THE TIME IS 3 22 AND THE ZONING COMMISSION OF SAN ANTONIO IS BACK IN SESSION.
KELLY SANDERS, PLANNING COORDINATOR WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER 16, UM, LOCATED AT ONE 19 AND 1 34 TERRY COURT AND 4 0 2 AND 4 0 6 EAST FRENCH PLACE ARE REQUESTING TO GO FROM R SIX AND C ONE.
UM, OH, I'M SORRY, JUST R SIX TO C ONE S WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT AND CS WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
UM, THERE WERE 46 NOTICES SENT.
THERE WAS ONE NEUTRAL AND THREE OPPOSED.
UM, TOBIN HILL COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED OUTSIDE 200 FEET.
WE RECEIVED ANOTHER ONE IN FAVOR AND JUST, UH, RECENTLY WITHIN THE LAST 24 HOURS THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A MISSPELL OF MY NAME SO I DIDN'T GET THE EMAIL YESTERDAY, BUT WE DID RECEIVE THREE MORE IN SUPPORT.
UM, THE EXISTING R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY IS APPROPRIATE ZONING DISTRICT FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED C ONE S AND NCS BOTH WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT ARE ALSO APPROPRIATE ZONING DISTRICTS.
UM, TWO OF THE LOTS ARE ALREADY EXISTING PARKING LOTS FOR THE ABUTTING CHURCH AND UH, WHICH IS ONLY USED DURING TYPICAL CHURCH SERVICES.
SO, UM, DUE TO THE COMMERCIAL USES ALONG NORTH ST.
MARY'S, THERE IS LIMITED SPACE FOR PARKING.
SO THE CHURCH IS REQUESTING, UM, TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FOR COMMERCIAL PARKING LOTS SO THEY CAN SERVICE ALL THE ADJACENT, UM, COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES AND ALSO REDUCE ON STREET PARKING ALONG THIS SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL STREETS.
UM, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT.
IF WE DO HAVE THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION, PLEASE.
PATRICK CHRISTENSEN, THREE 15 EAST COMMERCE HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF ST.
I HAVE GRASS GOT VESTUS WITH ME BACK THERE IN THE BACK CORNER IF THERE'S ANY SUPER DETAILED QUESTIONS.
BUT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE TODAY, I MEAN THE MAIN CRUX OF WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS TO REZONE THE SAINT SOPHIA'S PARKING LOT THAT IS SITTING THERE EMPTY SIX AND A HALF DAYS OUTTA THE WEEK.
THEY HAVE THEIR SERVICES ON SUNDAY MORNINGS.
UM, THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO CHARGE FOR PARKING OF THAT PARKING LOT WHEN THE CHURCH IS NOT IN SERVICE.
UM, SO BASICALLY IF YOU RECALL A FEW, WE, A FEW ZONING COMMISSION MEETINGS AGO, I REZONED A COUPLE OF HOUSES ACROSS THE STREET WITH IDZ ZONING SO WE COULD DO LIKE, YOU KNOW, RESTAURANT COFFEE SHOPS AND ONE OF THE COMMENTS WAS, YOU KNOW, WHERE'S, WHERE'S THE PARKING GONNA BE? STAFF RECOMMENDED DENIAL.
WELL, HERE'S A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY.
I MEAN IT'S AN EXISTING PARKING LOT, WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO CHARGE FOR THAT AND THAT WILL RAISE SOME REVENUE FOR THE GREEK CHURCH, WHICH WOULD BE GREAT.
UM, I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH TOBIN HILL A LOT ON THIS CASE AND I KNOW THAT GREG ASBESTOS HAS MET WITH THEM PROBABLY FOUR TIMES BEFORE THIS AT THEIR QUARTERLY MEETINGS.
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I BELIEVE THE, THE REASON FOR THEIR OPPOSITION IS THIS PROPERTY, THE TERRY COURT PROPERTY, THERE WAS A HOUSE THERE THAT WAS IN REALLY BAD SHAPE.IT WAS PROBABLY BUILT IN THE FIFTIES.
IT WAS NOT A HISTORIC BUNGALOW OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
AND THE CHURCH HAD ORIGINALLY PURCHASED THIS FOR SOME SORT OF, UH, ANCILLARY USES OFFICES, MAYBE CLASSROOMS FOR, FOR SUNDAY SCHOOL.
BUT YOU KNOW, WITH ALL THE ISSUES THEY'VE HAD WITH SECURITY JUST IN GENERAL WITH SCHOOLS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, THEY DECIDED THEY DID NOT WANT TO HAVE A SEPARATE FACILITY ACROSS THE STREET AND IT WAS GONNA BE VERY COST PROHIBITIVE TO RESTORE THE HOUSE.
SO THEY DEMOLISHED IT, IT WAS NOT CONSIDERED HISTORIC.
THERE WAS NO ISSUES WITH HDRC ON THAT.
AND SOME PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE, ARE UPSET ABOUT THE DEMOLITION OF THE HOUSE, BUT THE CHURCH NEEDS THE PARKING ON SUNDAY MORNINGS, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH PARKING FOR THEIR SERVICES AND PEOPLE ARE PARKING UP AND DOWN THE STREET SO THEY'RE GONNA BUILD THAT PARKING LOT ANYWAYS.
BUT SINCE THEY'RE BUILDING IT, THEY WOULD ALSO LIKE THE ABILITY TO PARK THERE.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS TO THE, THE EXTRA ZONING TO ALLOW THE CHURCH TO RAISE SOME REVENUE FROM PARKING AND TO SERVE THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD BY ALLOWING A SPACE FOR PARKING BESIDES IN FRONT OF EVERYONE'S HOUSES.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? WE DO HAVE, UH, VOICEMAILS TO BE PLAYED.
ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HEAR THOSE PLEASE.
UH, I'M CALLING IN REGARDS TO ZONING CASE Z 2 0 2 3 1 0 7 0 0 2 8 8 S REGARDING ONE 19 AND 1 3 4 TERRY COURT AND 4 0 2 AND 4 0 6 EAST FRENCH PLACE.
I'M THE AUTHORIZED REPRESENTATIVE OF LJM BRADY CREEK PARTNERS LP.
WE OWN THE REAL ESTATE, UH, ACROSS THE STREET.
WE ARE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THE APPLICANT'S ZONING CASE WE WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO RECOMMEND FOR APPROVAL.
CHAD CAREY, LJM BRADY CREEK PARTNERS LP.
MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 849-3419.
MY NAME IS PATRICIA REC, RECK.
AND THIS IS REGARDING 1 3 4 TERRY COURT.
UM, MY HUSBAND AND I ARE OPPOSED TO THE PARKING LOT USE THAT THE CHURCH AND SOPHIA IS PUTTING IN FOR, UM, PAID PARKING FOR UM, ST.
UM, NOT ONLY HAVE THEY DEMOLISHED A NEGLECTED HOME THAT THEY OWNED, THEY ARE NOW TRYING TO MAKE A PROFIT, UM, FROM A PARKING LOT.
SO WE NOW HAVE A PARKING LOT, UM, IN OUR, IN OUR LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WILL CREATE MORE TRAFFIC.
WE ALREADY HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC AT NIGHT.
IT'S SPECIFICALLY WEEKENDS, UM, WHERE PEOPLE ARE PARKING USING OUR STREET, JERRY AND VALERO.
UM, THEY SPEED DOWN IT, THERE'S DRUNKEN DRIVING, THERE'S TRASH AND LITTER, SO ALL THAT WILL INCREASE.
MY NAME IS RICK SHELL FOR 30 EAST MISTLETOE TOBIN HILL COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION BOARD OF DIRECTORS ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE CHAIR FOR TOBIN HILL.
I'M CALLING ABOUT ITEM NUMBER 16 ON TERRY COURT IN EAST FRENCH PLACE.
UH, THIS IS THE STATEMENT OF TOBIN HILL COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION.
OUR COMMITTEE AND LEADERSHIP FIRST STARTED MEETING WITH THE APPLICANT IN 2021.
AT THAT TIME WE COMMUNICATED WE DO NOT SUPPORT THE USE OF A PARKING LOT ON 1 34 TERRY COURT.
THERE WAS A NEGLECTED HOUSE ON THE PROPERTY THAT THE APPLICANT HAD OWNED FOR YEARS.
WE TOLD THEM WE WANTED IT TO BE MAINTAINED PROPERLY AND FOR THE PROPERTY TO RETAIN RESIDENTIAL ZONING.
THIS IS WHAT THE MIDTOWN REGIONAL PLAN CALLS FOR AND WHAT WE SUPPORTED.
HISTORICALLY, WE DO NOT SUPPORT THE REMOVAL OF RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES IN OUR RESIDENTIAL CORE FOR COMMERCIAL USES.
THIS DATES BACK TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN.
SINCE THEN, THE APPLICANT CLAIMED A MAINTENANCE LIABILITY IN 2022, DEMOLISHED THE HOUSE THAT WAS NEGLECTED BY THE APPLICANT FOR YEARS AND IS NOW REQUESTING TO USE IT AS A PARKING LOT.
THE CITY'S CODE SECTION 35 3 84 SAYS TEARING DOWN A RESIDENTIAL HOME TO BUILD COMMERCIAL PARKING IS NOT ALLOWED.
OUR COMMITTEE IS CONCERNED THAT WITH THIS ZONING REQUEST, WE RECEIVED NO SITE
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PLAN FOR THE APPLICANT TO ADHERE TO REGARDING DESIGN PAVING, MATERIALS IMPROVEMENTS, WATER MITIGATION, LIGHT PLACEMENT, SETBACKS, HOURS OF OPERATION, ET CETERA.WITH THEIR CURRENT SITE PLAN, THERE'S NO WAY TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHATEVER WE ARE TOLD.
AS IT SIMPLY LISTS THE NUMBER OF SPACES PLANNED AND SHOWS INGRESS EGRESS POINTS.
WE ARE CONCERNED THAT WITH THIS NEW ZONING, THEY'LL SIMPLY HANG UP SIGNS TO PAY TO PARK WITH NO IMPROVEMENT.
THE SPECIAL USE ZONING REQUEST ALLOWS FOR MANY OF THESE TO BE ADDRESSED.
ALONG WITH THIS, THEY HAVE EXPRESSED IN THE PAST ALLOWING FOOD TRUCKS ON THEIR LOTS.
THESE, THESE CONTINUE TO BE DISRUPTIVE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS THEY SERVE FOOD.
PAST BAR CLOSING OF 2:00 AM CREATING TRASH AND NOISE FOR THE RESIDENTS.
WE WOULD LIKE THE OPERATION OF THESE SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDED AS WELL AS ALCOHOL SALES AND CONSUMPTION.
WE PROPOSED A POSSIBLE COMPROMISE AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO SPLIT THEIR REQUESTS UP AND WE COULD CONSIDER SUPPORTING THE REQUESTS FOR 4 0 2 AND 4 0 6.
EACH FRENCH AND ONE 19 CARRY CARRIED SEPARATELY AND THEY DECLINED.
THESE PARKING LOTS ALREADY EXIST AND ARE ALREADY MAINTAINED.
THUS, WE ARE OPPOSED TO THE REQUEST TO CHANGE.
WE ASK FOR DENIAL OUTRIGHT AND IF NOT THAT WE ASK FOR CONTINUANCE.
TO WORK OUT THE CONDITIONS NECESSARY TO MAKE THIS A WIN FOR EVERYBODY.
WOULD YOU LIKE A OPPORTUNITY? WAIT REAL QUICK, PATRICK CHRISTENSEN AGAIN.
UM, THE COMMENT ABOUT NOT, UM, MAINTAINING THE HOUSE, I WANNA MAKE SURE YOU ALL UNDERSTAND HERE.
THIS IS NOT A BIG, BAD WEALTHY DEVELOPER HERE.
THIS IS A COMMUNITY GREEK CHURCH THAT DOESN'T HAVE UNLIMITED FUNDS.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY SAY THEY CAN OR CANNOT AFFORD TO RESTORE THE HOUSE AND MAKE IT SOME SORT OF A USE FOR THE CHURCH, THEY'RE BEING HONEST.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT COMMENT IS, IS VERY UNFAIR TO THE CHURCH.
UM, THEY DO NEED EXTRA PARKING.
THEY ARE GONNA BUILD A PARKING LOT ON THIS PROPERTY, TERRY COURT THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS UPSET WITH.
WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO, TO ALLOW THE CHURCH TO GENERATE SOME REVENUE FROM THAT PARKING.
THE PART ABOUT BIFURCATING THE REZONING, I'VE GIVEN THE CHURCH A SUPER CUT RATE, BUT THEY'RE STILL HAVING TO PAY ME AND THEY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF FUNDS FOR THAT.
SO I WOULD JUST ASK THAT YOU SUPPORT THIS AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE.
THIS IS A DISTRICT ONE CASE, SO TO YOU COMMISSIONER LUM FOR QUESTIONS.
I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER WATSON, UH, MR. CHRISTENSEN? OH, YES.
UM, CAN YOU ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ON THE, UH, DISCUSSION ABOUT, UM, POTENTIAL CONDITIONS THAT ARE PERMITTED, UM, WITH THE S AND IF YOU'VE HAD ANY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION ABOUT WHAT THOSE WOULD LOOK LIKE BEYOND SHARING THE SITE PLAN? SURE.
SO I MEAN, THE RIGHT WHERE THE FOOD TRUCKS CAME FROM, WHEN WE'VE ORIGINALLY STARTED HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM OVER A YEAR AGO, WE SAID, WHAT IF WE PUT SOME FOOD TRUCKS HERE? AND, UM, THEY DIDN'T LIKE THAT.
SO WE BASICALLY, WE'VE NOT OFFERED TO ASK FOR ANY KIND OF FOOD COURT USE OR ANYTHING WITH THIS REZONING.
WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE, MAYBE DOING A C TWO S FOR A FOOD TRUCK COURT, BUT THERE WAS OPPOSITION TO THAT.
SO, UM, THE GREEK CHURCH WOULD MAYBE IS CONSIDERED MAYBE SELLING SOME FOOD OUTTA THEIR OWN KITCHEN.
THEY HAVE A KITCHEN THERE, THEY HAVE A, YOU KNOW, LIKE A WEDDING BANQUET HALL THERE ON THE, ON THE PROPERTY.
BUT, UH, THAT'S AS FAR AS WE'VE GONE.
AND AS FAR AS THE SITE PLAN, I, I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT COMMENT'S COMING FROM.
I MEAN, THE, THE CHURCH HAS SPENT A LOT OF MONEY WITH THE ENGINEERS TO COME UP WITH THIS SITE PLAN TO COMPLY WITH ALL OF THE CITY PARKING LOT REQUIREMENTS ON DRAINAGE AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND AS FAR AS THE LIGHTING GOES, I MEAN, JUST THE REQUIRED LIGHTING FOR SAFETY REASONS.
YOU KNOW, IF PEOPLE ARE OUT THERE AT NIGHT, YOU DON'T WANT ANYTHING BAD GOING ON.
I WILL ALSO ADD THAT THIS DOES NOT SHOW ANY STRUCTURES, SO IF THEY WERE TO ADD A STRUCTURE, IT WOULD BE A MAJOR AMENDMENT AND THEY'D HAVE TO COME BACK.
UH, QUESTIONS COMM UH, COMMISSIONER BARDOS.
UM, I, MAYBE I WASN'T PAYING ATTENTION.
HOW MANY PARKING SPACE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? OH, DO YOU KNOW THAT GREG? UH, THIS IS A PRELIMINARY PLAN.
GREG ASBESTOS, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SOPHIA GREEK ORTHODOX CHURCH, 25 0 4 NORTH ST.
MARY STREET, OR 1 29 30 COUNTRY RIDGE, DISTRICT ONE, I'M SORRY, DISTRICT NINE AND DISTRICT ONE.
UH, THE SITE PLAN ON HERE IS A PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN, UH, THAT SHOWS, UM, I THINK 26.
BUT I THINK THAT THE OTHER SITE PLAN WE HAVE THAT, UH, DID NOT GET INTO THIS PRESENTATION SHOWS 34.
UM, THE KEY IS THAT, UM, UM, I DUNNO ABOUT Y'ALL, BUT WHEN YOU GO TO CHURCH, YOU DON'T REALLY WANNA GET OUT OF A CAR AND GET OUT IN THE MUD AND WALK THROUGH THE MUD AND GO TO CHURCH.
THIS ISN'T THE HE LOTUS, UM, CORNY VAL.
SO, UH, THIS IS GONNA BE PAVED AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE COMMENT CAME FROM ABOUT LEAVING IT MUDDY AS IT WAS.
UH, WE DO PLAN ON PAVING IT, UH, AT LEAST FOR MOST OF OUR, OUR PEOPLE
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THAT ARE THERE.SO NOT TOO MANY OF OUR PARISHIONERS WOMEN, FEMALES WEAR BOOTS TO CHURCH.
SO, UH, AND IF THEY DO, THEY DON'T WANT 'EM DIRTY.
SO PROBABLY 34 I THINK IS THE PARKING NUMBER THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR ON THIS PARTICULAR AREA.
AND WHATEVER THE MAXIMUM WE'RE ABLE TO DO IS, IS WHAT OUR OBJECTIVE IS.
DOES THAT ANSWER THE QUESTION? YES.
UM, PATRICK'S SECOND PART OF THE QUESTION.
UM, W WOULD Y'ALL RUN THE PARKING LOT OR ARE YOU ALL GONNA HIRE A, A PARKING OPERATOR OR THOSE THINGS THAT ARE AUTOMATIC WHERE LIKE THE CITY HAS A CREDIT CARD AND YOU PUT THIS STICKER, OR HOW, HOW IS THAT GONNA GONNA WORK? UH, WE DO NOT PLAN ON OPERATING IT OURSELVES, UH, FOR TWO REASONS.
A, WE DO NOT, WE'RE NOT IN THAT BUSINESS, NUMBER ONE.
AND NUMBER TWO, UH, OUR PLAN IS TO GO WITH A VERY HIGH TECH OPERATION, WHICH IS A, UH, CAMERA IDENTIFICATION OF LICENSE PLATE OPERATION SO THAT TAGS ARE DONE AND THAT THE, THE BILLING WILL BE DONE EITHER THROUGH THE APP OR THROUGH A BILLING, UH, PROCEDURE FOR DELINQUENT, UH, PARKERS.
UH, WE DID NOT WANT TO GET INTO THE TOWING BUSINESS, UH, AND HAVE PEOPLE TOWED BECAUSE OF THE CHURCH WOULD GET PHONE CALLS AND LETTERS FROM ATTORNEYS, ET CETERA, AND YOU KNOW HOW THOSE ATTORNEYS ARE.
UH, SO WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT AT ALL.
SO OURS IS GONNA BE A, AGAIN, A VERY HIGH TECH APPROACH AND PROBABLY THE BEST LITS PARKING LOT DOWN LIGHTING, NOT TO OBSTRUCT THE, THE, THE NEIGHBORS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT, BUT THE AREA BEING LIT WITH HIGH TECH APPROACH TO PARKING.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.
UH, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR, UH, STAFF.
UM, AND CHRISTY, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT IF THEY COULD NOT PUT A BUILDING ON THERE, SO WITHOUT COMING BACK WITH YOU, I'M ASSUMING THAT MEANS SINCE IT'S AN A, UM, SPECIFIC USE, THEY'RE LOCKED INTO THE SITE PLAN SHOWN? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND CURRENTLY SINCE IT'S ZONED RESIDENTIAL, UM, THE, THE A A CHURCH OBVIOUSLY CAN OPERATE WITHIN A RESIDENTIAL ZONING.
THEY COULD ALSO OPERATE OR NOT OPERATE, BUT THEY COULD HAVE PARKING IN THE RESIDENTIAL ZONING.
THE REASON THEY'RE HERE TODAY IS BECAUSE OF THE COMMERCIAL ASPECT OF THE PARKING? THAT IS CORRECT.
AND THE FINAL QUESTION IS, UM, BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S BEEN, UH, I'VE IT DONE OTHER PLACES WHERE THE RESIDENTIAL BASE ZONING WAS KEPT, BUT THEN IT WAS A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A PARKING LOT THAT WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED BECAUSE OF THE COMMERCIAL ASPECT OF THE PARKING LOT OR RIGHT.
'CAUSE USUALLY WHEN YOU SEE THIS, IT'S A NON-COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT, SO WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE INTENSITY SCALE, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE IT HAS TO BE A COMMERCIAL ZONE TO A COMMERCIAL ZONE.
C ONE IS THE VERY HIGHEST THEY CAN GO.
WHAT DO, WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE VERY HIGHEST? IF THEY WERE TO KEEP THE RESIDENTIAL BASE ZONING AND AT A CONDITIONAL USE, C ONE'S THE HIGHEST THEY COULD DO, BUT A COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT STARTS AT C TWO.
NOW, C ONE AS FAR AS, UH, THE CONCERN FROM THE CALLER ABOUT ALCOHOL OR OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT, UM, YOU SAID NO STRUCTURE.
IS A FOOD TRUCK CONSIDERED A STRUCTURE OR IS IT JUST A TEMPORARILY? SO I MEAN, IT IS A, IT'S A STRUCTURE.
THE THING IS IS THAT YOU HAVE A C ONE ZONE, A C ONE WOULD ALLOW OTHER USES AND NC WILL ALLOW OTHER USES, UM, PRETTY POSITIVE BECAUSE THEY ARE, UH, TIED TO A SITE PLAN AND THERE IS NOT A PROPOSED STRUCTURE ON THERE.
UM, THEY WOULD HAVE TO INDICATE THAT THERE MAY BE A FUTURE PROPOSED STRUCTURE BECAUSE IF NOT, THEN IT WOULD BE A MAJOR SITE PLAN AMENDMENT.
ALRIGHT, I THINK THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS FOR TODAY FROM ME.
ANY, UH, FINAL QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER WATSON? UM, I DO HAVE A COUPLE ADDITIONAL, UH, CLARIFYING QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
SO, UM, WITH THE PROPOSED REZONING, JUST BECAUSE THAT STRUCTURE EXPLANATION CONFUSED ME A LITTLE BIT,
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UM, WITH THIS, UM, YOU, LIKE WITH THE C ONE, ARE THEY, WOULD THERE BE AN OPTION FOR THEM TO LIKE OPERATE A FOOD TRUCK OR ALLOW FOOD TRUCKS TO OPERATE ON THE PROPERTY? IT, IT'S TECHNICALLY LIKE A TEMPORARY USE AND IT COULD GO, IT COULD BE BROUGHT ON AND THEN CARTED OFF.UM, IT WOULD DEPEND ON THE TIMEFRAME OF IT WOULD, THEY COULD PROBABLY BRING SOME SORT OF A TEMPORARY STRUCTURE ON THERE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE A PERMANENT STRUCTURE.
UM, AND THEN JUST AS A CLARIFICATION WITH THIS REQUEST, WOULD ALCOHOL SALES BE PERMITTED IN ANY FORM AS IS? YOU KNOW, THERE ARE TRUCKS THAT SELL ALCOHOL, SO POSSIBLY REQUEST, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THEIR LICENSING REQUESTED.
THE T ABC IS SEPARATE LICENSING THOUGH, WITHIN THE ZONING REQUEST, NAC ONE REQUEST REQUESTED, YOU CAN HAVE ALCOHOL CELLS? YES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.
ALRIGHT, BACK TO YOU COMMISSIONER CALLUM FOR A MOTION.
I MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL FOR THE C ONE WITH SPECIFIC YOUTH AUTHORIZATION FOR A COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT.
FRIENDLY AMENDMENT BECAUSE THERE IS AN NCS PORTION AS WELL.
THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED.
UH, SECOND, UH, I'LL GIVE IT TO COMMISSIONER FUENTES.
WELL, I MEAN, I LOOK THAT WAY.
UM, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER'S ON MY LEFT.
UM, I DON'T NECESSARILY FEEL COMFORTABLE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
UM, NOT BECAUSE I OPPOSE THE ULTIMATE GOAL HERE, BUT BECAUSE I THINK THERE IS ADDITIONAL ROOM TO WORK WITH THE, UH, COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT SOME OF THE CONDITIONS ARE ADDED TO THE SITE PLAN THAT WOULD PREVENT THINGS LIKE ALCOHOL SALES, UM, AND SPECIFICALLY EXPLICITLY WORK OUT AN AGREEMENT TO MAKE SURE THINGS LIKE FOOD TRUCKS CAN'T BE PERMITTED.
UM, I DON'T ULTIMATELY HAVE, UM, OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST, BUT I DO THINK THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL LEEWAY TO WORK THAT OUT.
UM, SO IN PRINCIPLE, I CAN'T SUPPORT THE MOTION, UM, AS, UH, PRESENTED, BUT, UH, AS I WILL PROBABLY BE IN THE MINORITY IN THAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME TO A SOLUTION, UH, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH ZONING OR THROUGH AN AGREEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION BETWEEN NOW AND COUNCIL.
UH, OTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSION ON MY LEFT.
COMMISSIONER BAROS, I SAW YOU.
UH, JUST, JUST TO COMMENT, I, I'M GONNA SUPPORT THIS MOTION BASICALLY BECAUSE I SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH A COUNCILWOMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE RESTAURANTS, UM, ON ST.
AND THEIR NUMBER ONE COMPLAINT, UH, HAS ALWAYS BEEN FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS.
SO ANYTIME THAT SOMEONE, UH, EITHER THE CITY OR, OR A CHURCH OR ANOTHER ESTABLISHMENT OR PROPERTY OWNER CAN COME UP WITH ADDITIONAL PARKING, I WILL SUPPORT THAT.
UH, OTHER DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER'S ON MY RIGHT.
COMMISSIONER ES, JUST REAL BRIEFLY, UM, I LOVE THE, THE FACT THAT WE'RE SEEING MORE PARKING POP UP HERE.
UH, LIKE COMMISSIONER BARRO SAID, IT'S A, IT'S A HOT COMMODITY HERE AND, UH, IF WE CAN DO ANYTHING TO ALLEVIATE THE STRESS ON THE NEIGHBORS THERE AND THE STRESS ON THE STREETS, THE TRAFFIC, UH, I AM FOR THAT.
UH, SO WITH THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I'M SECONDING THIS MOTION.
UH, OTHER COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT? NONE.
UM, I WILL BE JOINING COMMISSIONER WATSON IN OPPOSITION TO THE, THE CURRENT MOTION.
NOT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA, BUT BECAUSE I THINK THAT, UM, THERE'S STILL A COUPLE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE WORKED OUT.
UM, AND THE, THE POSSIBILITY THAT YES, WE'RE ADDING PARKING, BUT WE COULD POSSIBLY JUST TAKE AWAY THAT PARKING BY PUTTING FOOD, A FOOD TRUCK OR TWO THERE KIND OF DEFEATS THE PURPOSE.
UM, AND I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, SHOULD BE WORKED OUT BEFORE COUNCIL AT LEAST.
SO WITH THAT MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL, UM, BY COMMISSIONER KELLUM.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FUENTES.
UM, WE ARE NOW ON TO, WELL LET
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THE, LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE IS LEAVING THE MEETING AT 3 45 AND WE ARE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 24, I BELIEVE.AND COMMISSIONER FUENTES ALSO LEFT AT 3 45, BUT HE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
COMMISSIONER IS MINE FORCE WILSON PRINCIPAL PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER 24 IS LOCATED AT THREE 19 BLANCO ROAD GOING FROM R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT TO C ONE IDZ LIGHT COMMERCIAL INFIELD DEVELOPMENT ZONE DISTRICT.
THERE WERE 25 NOTICES SENT OUT.
AND THE BEACON HILL AREA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED THE UH, EXISTING R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED C ONE LIKE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS ALSO SUITABLE FOR THE AREA AS THERE ARE PAROLE COMMERCIALLY ZONED PROPERTIES AND USES DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET.
THE C ONE BASED ZONING DISTRICT WILL BENEFIT NEARBY RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES, UM, BY IMPROVING DILAPIDATED BUILDING AND CONTRIBUTE TO GROWTH AND VITALITY OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
UM, WHILE CONFORMING TO THE UNDERLYING LAND USE DESIGNATION, HOWEVER, WAIVING THE PARKING REQUIREMENT WITH THE IDZ OVERLAY IS NOT APPROPRIATE IN AN AREA THAT ALREADY STRUGGLES WITH PARKING AND TRAFFIC.
SO STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL WITH AN ALTERNATE RECOMME RECOMMENDATION OF C ONE WITHOUT THE IDZ OVERLAY AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT, UH, HAS AN AMENDMENT.
ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT PLEASE.
PATRICK CHRISTENSEN, THREE 15 EAST COMMERCE.
UM, YEAH, SO ANOTHER IDZ CASE WITH STAFF RECOMMENDING DENIAL.
SO WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THIS CASE? IT'S AN EXISTING SMALL CINDER BLOCK BUILDING ABOUT A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.
UM, IT'S THE SAME OWNER DEVELOPER THAT WE JUST REZONED.
IT'S A PROPERTY ON GRANT AND UM, ASHBY PLACE, HE, UH, IS GOING TO BUILD THAT PROPERTY.
HE WANTS TO BUILD THAT FIRST, THEN HE WANTS TO COME BACK AND REDEVELOP THIS PROPERTY.
BUT IN THE MEANTIME, IT'LL PROBABLY BE TWO YEARS TO BUILD THAT FOURPLEX.
HE WOULD LIKE SOME SORT OF COMMERCIAL ZONING SO HE CAN MAYBE GET A TENANT IN THERE AND GENERATE SOME REVENUE WITH THIS PROPERTY.
HIS GOAL IS TO COME BACK AND DO SOME SORT OF A NEW BUILDING.
UM, GROUND FLOOR COMMERCIAL, MAYBE A COUPLE APARTMENTS ABOVE.
WE EXPRESSED THAT TO THE BEACON HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
THEIR ONLY REQUEST WAS THAT WE DOWN ZONE OUR REQUEST OR CHANGE OUR REQUEST FROM C ONE TO NC.
SO I'LL BE FORMALLY MAKING THAT AMENDMENT HERE TODAY.
SO WE'LL BE ASKING FOR NC IDZ.
I JUST WOULD LIKE THE IDZ ZONING BECAUSE THE STANDARD CITY PARKING REQUIREMENTS JUST DON'T WORK IN AN INNER CITY NEIGHBORHOOD.
IF THERE IS SOME MIRACULOUS TENANT THAT GENERATES LOTS OF NEED FOR PARKING, MY CLIENT ALSO OWNS EVERYTHING ACROSS THE STREET, ACROSS BLANCO.
THEY CAN CERTAINLY PARK THERE IF THERE THERE'S ANY KIND OF RUNOFF, THOSE BUSINESSES DO NOT GENERATE A LOT OF PARKING.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? YES, WE DO.
UM, WE HAVE A SPEAKER, MS. CYNTHIA SPIELMAN PLEASE.
CYNTHIA SPIELMAN, 900 WEST WOODLAWN.
UM, I'M THE CHAIR OF THE ZONING AND URBAN DESIGN COMMITTEE FOR BEACON HILL AREA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
WE TAKE, UM, HOUSING EXTREMELY SERIOUSLY.
WE, I WORKED ON THE SHIP AS A COMMITTEE MEMBER.
UM, WE DO NOT, WE ARE GENERALLY OPPOSED TO TURNING BUSINESS OR HOMES INTO BUSINESSES MOSTLY BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY EMPTY STRUCTURES, RETAIL STRUCTURES AND OFFICE STRUCTURES.
AND WE HAVE A SHORTAGE OF HOUSING.
AND YOU CAN SEE BY THE KIND OF ZONING THAT WE'VE APPROVED AND WORKED TOWARDS THAT WE WALK THE WALK.
UM, WE OPPOSED THE ORIGINAL C TWO AND WE OPPOSED THE C ONE.
WE DID ALLOW FOR, UM, THE IDZ AND WE PROPOSED THE NC AND THE REASON WE PROPOSED IT IS THE BUILDING THAT'S ON THERE NOW IS NOT SUITABLE FOR HOUSING.
THE DEVELOPER HAD BUILT, UM, SOME HOUSING NEXT DOOR.
THERE'S HOUSING RIGHT AROUND IT.
MOST OF IT'S ZONE SINGLE FAMILY.
THERE'S SOME MULTIFAMILY AND THEN THERE'S BUSINESSES ACROSS THE STREET.
AND WE FELT LIKE NC WOULD ALLOW THE, UM, OWNER TO BE ABLE TO DO HIS STATED INTENT.
HE WANTS TO DO SOMETHING A, ACCORDING TO A STATEMENT, SOMETHING THAT HE CAN MAKE MONEY NOW, BUT HIS INTENT IS TO BUILD MORE HOUSING AND THE NC UM, IN THE MIXED USE LAND USE, UM, ALLOWS HIM TO DO THAT.
AND YOU KNOW, WE PUT A LOT INTO OUR LAND USE PLAN AND THIS LAND USE PLAN DOES ALLOW FOR NC.
SO, UM, WHILE WE OPPOSED THE ORIGINAL C TWO
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AND THE C ONE, WE DID RECOMMEND, UM, THE NC AND UM, THE IDZ.YOU KNOW, PART OF THE IDZ PARKING IS, YOU DON'T WANT THESE VERY SMALL AND NARROW STREETS THAT HAVE NO SIDEWALKS CLOGGED WITH, WITH CARS.
IT, WE UNDERSTAND THOSE ARE PUBLIC SPACES, BUT WE ALSO IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ARE VERY, A VERY WALKABLE AND BIKEABLE AND PEOPLE WITH THEIR DOGS, A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THE STREET.
IT'S VERY DANGEROUS WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO GET THROUGH AND THERE'S NO PLACE TO GO WHEN CARS COME.
BUT IN THIS CASE, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WHO'S NOT INSANE WOULD TRY, UM, PARKING ON BLANCO OR ASHBY.
SO REALLY IT WILL, IT, THE NC WILL KEEP THE BUSINESS GENTLE ENOUGH, LESS INTENSE ENOUGH SO THAT HE'S NOT GOING TO HAVE HOARDS OF PEOPLE AND HE DOES HAVE PARKING ACROSS THE STREET AND THERE'S A CROSSWALK WITH A LIGHT SO THAT PEOPLE CAN CROSS SAFELY.
AND SO WE APPRECIATE, UH, MR. CHRISTENSEN WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, THROUGH THE PROCESS AND WE DO, UM, UH, WE, WE DO ASK YOU TO APPROVE HIS PLANS.
ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? NO, THERE IS NOT.
ALRIGHT, MR. CHRISTENSEN, DID YOU WANT TO NO, UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, THIS IS DISTRICT ONE CASE, SO COMMISSIONER KELLUM TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS.
I JUST APPRECIATE BEACON HILL AND HOW THEY WORKED WITH, UM, THE DEVELOPER TO COME TO A SOLUTION AS THEY ALWAYS SEEM TO.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMERS ON MY LEFT.
ALRIGHT, BACK TO YOU COMMISSIONER KLUM FOR A MOTION.
UM, WOULD IT BE AS AMENDED FOR THE NC USE? IS THAT RIGHT? UH, WITH THE IDC OVERLAY? SECOND.
ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION, UH, FOR APPROVAL AS AMENDED, UH, WITH A SEC BY COMMISSIONER KELLUM WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON.
UH, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER WATSON.
UM, I WILL, UH, BE SUPPORTING THE REQUEST, UM, AS AMENDED, UH, AGAINST STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, UH, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THE, UM, WORK THAT MR. CHRISTENSEN PUT IN WITH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND REALLY UNDERSTANDING WHAT, UM, THE CONTEXT IS ON THIS INNER CITY NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS SPECIFIC SPECIFIC LOCATION WAS VERY WELL DONE.
UM, IT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW YOU CAN REPURPOSE, UM, AND IN INNOVATIVELY, UM, PROPOSE SOLUTIONS THAT MAKE DEVELOPMENT VIABLE FOR HOUSING.
IN ADDITION FOR IMPROVING NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL USES ON CORRIDORS FOR THE LONG TERM.
IN TERMS OF THINKING THROUGH THIS, UM, IN A MULTI-STAGE WAY, UM, THAT'S GOING TO ALLOW THE DEVELOPMENT TO HAPPEN WHILE ALSO, UM, MAKING USE OF AN EXISTING VACANT PROPERTY, UM, WHILE ALSO THINKING THROUGH TRAFFIC AND NEIGHBORHOOD USE.
UM, AND I THINK IT'S A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE OF, UM, HOW WE CAN MAKE SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES THAT ARE UNDEVELOPABLE IN SOME OF OUR URBAN CORE, UM, DEVELOPABLE IN A WAY THAT BOTH SUITS THE COMMUNITY AND PROVIDES BENEFIT IN TERMS OF USE IN HOUSING WHILE ALSO MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE PROVING THAT SOME DEVELOPMENT THAT SEEMS UNVIABLE IS IN FACT, UM, POSSIBLE.
AND, UH, SO I COMMEND BOTH THE APPLICANT, UM, AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION FOR COMING TO THAT SOLUTION AND FOR THE THOUGHTFUL, UM, USE OF ACTUAL LAND USE, BUT ALSO, UM, ATTENTION TO TRAFFIC AND MOVEMENT OF PEOPLE NOT ONLY CARS BUT AS WELL AS THE, THE NEED FOR WALKABILITY AND, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD MOBILITY IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? NONE.
COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT? NONE.
ALRIGHT, AND I WILL ECHO, UM, AGAIN, COMMISSIONER WATSON'S COMMENTS.
UM, SO THANK YOU FOR BOTH TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND TO, UM, THE APPLICANT FOR WORKING TOGETHER FOR A SOLUTION.
UH, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL AS AMENDED, UH, BY COMMISSIONER KELLUM WITH A SECOND.
WHO MADE THE SECOND, I FORGET.
COMMISSIONER WATSON WITH A SECOND.
UM, IF WE COULD ALSO NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER FUENTES DID REJOIN THE MEETING AT, IT WAS AT 3 43 50 48.
ALRIGHT, UM, IF WE CAN MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 27.
ITEM NUMBER 27 IS GOING TO BE CONTINUED.
THE APPLICANT HAD TO LEAVE UNEXPECTEDLY AND SO IS ASKING FOR A CONTINUANCE TO DECEMBER THE 19TH.
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I I I SEE THAT THERE ARE SOME VOICEMAILS WE NEED TO PLAY VOICEMAILS? YES, PLEASE.DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR THAT ITEM? NO, SIR.
IF WE COULD, IF, IF WE COULD HEAR THE VOICEMAILS PLEASE.
MY NAME IS ANNA VICTORIA ORITA, H-O-R-C-A-S-I-T-A-S.
I'M TALKING ABOUT CASE NUMBER Z 2 2 3 1 0 7 0 0 3 0 7.
HI, MY NAME IS ANDREW RODRIGUEZ.
THIS IN REGARDS TO CASE NUMBER Z 2 0 2 3 1 0 7 0 0 3 0 7.
IT'S FOR CHANGE OF ZONING AND I'M VOTING NO AS TO, UH, WE DON'T WANT OTHER BUSINESSES OUTSIDE OF OFFICES TO BE AT THIS ADDRESS.
THE ADDRESS, UH, IS 41 43 CAPANO BAY, 7 8 2 2 9.
AND THE CASE NUMBER, THE LAST THREE DIGITS ARE 3 0 7.
AND I'M VOTING NO DUE TO THE NOISE AND, AND SAFETY ISSUES.
HI, THIS IS JD STIMSON AND I'M CALLING ABOUT CASE NUMBER Z DASH 2 0 2 3 DASH 1 0 7 0 0 3 0 7.
UH, I REPRESENT FOUR PROPERTIES, THAT BEING 89 0 7 AUS BAY, 89 19 A BAY, 41 0 7 BAY, 41 20 ST.
CHARLES BAY, THAT'S FOUR OF THEM.
UM, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 2 9.
UH, MY VOTE FOR THIS IS NO, THIS PROPERTY BACKS UP AGAINST, UM, OUR IMMEDIATE BACKYARD.
AND, UM, BEING AS AN OFFICE RIGHT NOW THAT HAS SERVED THE GENERAL AREA AND OUR COMMUNITY GREATLY BECAUSE PEOPLE DO COME TO WORK, THEY LEAVE.
UM, IT'S KEPT IT QUIET, UM, AND PRETTY MUCH FOR THE MOST PART SAFE AS BUSINESSES HAVE CHANGED TO COMMERCIAL ZONING ONWARDS BOX, WE HAVE HAD UP TO DATE THAT ONLY I AM AWARE OF, UH, THREE HOMES WERE BULLETS HAVE BEEN SHOT INTO THE HOME.
SO TO HAVE THIS BUILDING GO INTO, UH, A COMMERCIAL ZONING TO WHERE ANY BUSINESS COULD BE OPENED THERE AND COULD BRING TRAFFIC THROUGHOUT THE DAY AND NIGHT, WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT FOR OUR SAFETY.
UM, A VIDEO OF ONE OF THE HOMES WHERE THE BULLET, UH, WENT THROUGH THE WALL AND INTO THREE BEDROOMS, UM, WAS SUBMITTED TO FOREST WILSON.
UH, I ALSO HAVE, UH, UH, FOOTAGE OF A BULLET COMING THROUGH MY HOME.
SO WE JUST FEEL THAT, UM, IT WOULD BE SAFER.
UM, AND IT IS STILL A BUSINESS.
PEOPLE ARE STILL OPERATING OUT OF THAT.
UH, BUT IT'S KEPT TO OFFICES, WHICH WE WOULD APPRECIATE.
I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THE NOR, UH, GROCERY STORE NEXT DOOR WANTING TO MOVE IN TO EXPAND, BUT SO FAR THEY HAVEN'T BEEN GOOD NEIGHBORS.
THEY DO HAVE A LOT OF GATHERING OF MEN LATE AT NIGHT, UH, WHICH WE COULD HEAR THROUGH THE HOUSES.
AND ALSO A LOT OF THE TRASH FROM THIS GROCERY STORE WASHES INTO OUR PROPERTY.
SO WE HAVEN'T BEEN VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT, BUT THERE WAS NOTHING WE COULD DO.
THEY ARE IN THEIR, UH, PROPER RIGHTS, UH, ACCORDING TO THEIR ZONING.
BUT WITH THIS PARTICULAR LARGE BUILDING TO BE KEPT AS OFFICES TO WHERE PEOPLE COULD COME AND WORK, UH, THROUGHOUT THE DAY LEAVING THE EVENING, UH, WE FEEL THAT THAT IS BEST FOR OUR COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY.
UM, I KNOW WE'RE UP AGAINST WORD SPOT, BUT UM, THIS IS STILL OUR HOME.
IT'S BEEN OUR HOME FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS.
UM, WE'RE RAISING OUR KIDS HERE.
WE LIKE IT TO BE, UH, JUST A, A A NORMAL HOME, A SANCTUARY WHERE YOU CAN COME BACK TO AND SLEEP AND NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT, UM, ANYTHING HAPPENING.
UM, LATE AT NIGHT, RIGHT BEHIND.
UM, I KNOW OTHER, UH, UH, NEIGHBORS ARE, HI, MY NAME IS SANDY TIMSON.
THE ADDRESS IS 4 1 6 5 SAN CHARLES BAY.
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Z 20 23 1 0 7 0 0 3 0 7.AND, UH, THE VOTE IS NO, I, I VOTE NO ON THIS.
THAT'S ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
SO COMMISSIONER ORTIZ, DID YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION? THANK YOU.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE TO HAVE THE APPLICANT PRESENT TO, UH, PROVIDE HIS PRESENTATION.
AND THERE IS A MOTION FOR A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON.
ROLL CALL VOTE MOTIONS FOR A CONTINUANCE.
MOTION PASSES FOR TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE.
UH, THE LAST INDIVIDUAL, WELL BESIDES MINUTES, LAST ITEM WE HAVE IS 31.
UM, KELLY SANDERS, PLANNING COORDINATOR WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
UM, ITEM NUMBER 31 IS LOCATED AT 2 1 3 3 0 MIL SSA DRIVE GOING FROM R 20 TO C TWO WITH ALL OVERLAYS.
NINE NOTICES WERE SENT, UH, ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR AND ONE OPPOSED.
THERE IS NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET, BUT OUTSIDE 200 FEET.
WE DID RECEIVE NOTICE FROM THE FRIENDS OF SAN ANTONIO NATURAL AREAS AND THEY'RE REQUESTING ADDITIONAL COVENANTS TO PROTECT FRIEDRICH PARK THAT IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
UM, THE EXISTING R 20 IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
AND THE REQUESTED C TWO WE FEEL IS ALSO AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY.
THERE IS A VARIETY OF EXISTING USES RANGING FROM OPEN PARK SPACE TO SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL, ALL WITHIN A 200 FOOT RADIUS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THE C TWO BASE ZONING DESIGNATION IS, UM, WE FIND AN APPROPRIATE DISTRICT WITHIN THE MIXED ADJACENT USES AND OFFER WOULD OFFER COMMERCIAL SERVICES FOR NEARBY BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT.
ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE.
CHRISTENSEN, THREE 15 ECOMMERCE.
DURING, DURING THE BREAK I HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK WITH SOME PEOPLE ON THE BACK WHO ARE NEIGHBORS AND WITH THE, WITH LANCE FROM THE FRIENDS OF FRIEDRICH PARK AND IT'S PRETTY CLEAR I NEED TO REACH BACK OUT TO THEM AND TRY TO HAVE SOME MORE CONVERSATIONS.
SO I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST A WEEK CONTINUANCE SO I CAN HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND HOPEFULLY COME BACK TO YOU WITH SUPPORT.
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC, DO WE HAVE ANY VOICEMAILS? I GUESS FIRST NO VOICEMAILS, JUST TWO FOLKS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
UM, IF WE COULD, FIRST WE HAVE, UM, MR. LANCE GEERT.
YOU CAN SPEAK HERE OR YOU CAN SPEAK WHEN IT'S AT A LATER DATE WHEN THEY'RE YEAH, IF THERE'S GONNA BE A CONTINUANCE I CAN IN JESUS.
AND THEN ALSO THE SAME FOR MISS DANA.
UM, PANKRATZ, YOU CAN SPEAK NOW OR, OR EVEN BOTH TIMES.
HELLO, I'M DANA PANKRATZ AND WE LIVE ADJACENT TO, UM, THIS PROPERTY.
UM, OUR ADDRESS IS 2 1 3 8 4 SSA AND UM, ALSO HERE IS JAIME FLORES AND HE LIVES BEHIND THE PROPERTY.
WE WERE NOT, I THINK I WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT VOTED FOR THIS BECAUSE WE ARE FOR COMMERCIAL, BUT I WAS REALLY SURPRISED TO FIND OUT THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE AN OUTSIDE BEER GARDEN THAT STAYS OPEN UNTIL 10 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT.
THIS IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THIS AREA.
ACROSS THE STREET IS FREDERICK'S WILDERNESS PARK, AND THAT IS A DAYTIME EVENT.
AND, UM, ALL AROUND US, AS SHE SAID, THERE IS A LOT OF APARTMENTS, THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, BUSINESSES.
THERE'S A SCHOOL, THERE'S A SCHOOL THAT YOU CAN SEE.
IT TOUCHES THE CORNER OF THE SCHOOL AND THEY'RE GOING TO SERVE, SERVE BEER AND WINE.
UH, THEY'RE GONNA BE OPEN LATE AT NIGHT.
WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE HAVING LOW LIGHTING, UH, WHERE CAMP BULLIS IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE, UM, VENUE.
I, I THOUGHT WHEN HE SAID COMMERCIAL AND I TALKED WITH THE REALTOR THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE A BUILDING, AN OFFICE BUILDING,
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UH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.WE CERTAINLY DON'T OPPOSE THAT, BUT WE DO OPPOSE, UH, A, UM, OUTSIDE VENUE AT NIGHT WITH NOISE AND, AND DRINKING AND SUCH LIKE THAT.
ALSO, WE DIDN'T RECEIVE ANYTHING ON DRAINAGE.
THE, UM, MOUNTAINS OR THE HILLS OF FREDERICK'S PARK ARE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM US, AND IT DOESN'T SHOW ON THAT PROPERTY THAT ACROSS THAT PROPERTY RUNNING DIAGONALLY IS A SECO CREEK.
A DRY CREEK BED THAT COMES TO OUR PROPERTY COMES TO MR. FLORES'S PROPERTY.
AND DRAINAGE REALLY NEEDS TO BE, UH, ADDRESSED, UH, AT THAT.
AND ALSO THE, UH, JUST THE PARKING, THEY'RE GONNA PUT, UM, I I UNDERSTAND FOOD TRUCKS AND PARKING ON ONE ACRE, SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE VERY CONGESTED WITH PEOPLE COMING PARKING ON THAT ONE LITTLE ACRE WITH, WITH FOOD TRUCKS.
AND I, I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S GONNA WORK OUT BECAUSE ALREADY NMSA IS A SHORTCUT FROM B BABCOCK ROAD AND, UM, UH, ANYWAY, BOB C**K ROAD AND COMING OVER TO IH 10 TO DOMINION.
AND SO WE HAVE PEOPLE GOING THERE WITH NO, NO TRAFFIC SIGNS, NO SPEED BUMPS, NO LIGHTS, NO FLASHING ANYTHING.
AND THEY'RE COMING 60 MILES AN HOUR THROUGH THAT STREET.
I, I JUST CAN'T SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, ADDING SOME MORE TRAFFIC.
THERE WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA, UM, AT ALL FOR THIS RESTAURANT.
WE GOT DRAINAGE, PARKING, TRAFFIC, UM, MUSIC, UH, MOST PLACES HAVE VENUE.
MR. CHRISTENSEN SAYS THEY'RE NOT GONNA HAVE OUTSIDE MUSIC, BUT CERTAINLY OUTSIDE LIGHTING.
I, I JUST TOTALLY, AND MR. FLORES ALSO OBJECTS TO THE USE OF THIS LAND, NOT, NOT COMMERCIALLY, BUT JUST TO THE USE OF A, A BEER GARDEN
UM, PATRICK, DID YOU WANT TO REBUTTAL AT THIS TIME OR JUST GONNA, OKAY.
UH, DISTRICT EIGHT CASE COMMISSIONER ORTIZ, BACK TO YOU.
UM, YEAH, I'D LIKE TO GIVE IT A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE.
THE APPLICANT AND THE OTHER SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS CAN BE HEARD AND JUST KIND OF GET EVERYTHING TRANSPARENT SO EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE.
MOTION IS FOR A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON.
MOTION PASSES FOR TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE.
WE'LL SEE YOU ALL IN TWO WEEKS.
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ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS FOR APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.SO I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OR FOR ANY CHANGES OR ANYTHING.
MR. CHAIR? YES, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES.
ALRIGHT, MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES BY COMMISSIONER REYES.
UH, WE CAN DO THIS BY ALL SAYING AYE.
UH, DO WE HAVE A DIRECTOR'S REPORT? NO SIR.
MAYBE THE EXIT WILL BE OPEN BY THEN.
MAYBE HE'LL OPEN THE EXIT FOR US.
ALRIGHT, SO, UH, THE TIME IS FOUR 10 AND THE, UH, SAN ANTONIO, THE ZONING COMMISSION OF CITY OF SAN ANTONIO IS NOW ADJOURNED.