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UH, WELCOME TO THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
UH, THE MORNING EDITION FOR WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 13TH, 2023.
CAN WE PLEASE HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT SPANISH LANGUAGE INTERPRETATION SERVICES? THANK YOU.
AND STAFF, PLEASE CONDUCT THE ROLL CALL.
UH, THERE ARE A COUPLE, UH, INDIVIDUALS TO SPEAK ON ITEMS NUMBER 31 AND 35.
THOSE, BOTH THOSE ITEMS, UM, HAVE BEEN WITHDRAWN.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO STILL SPEAK OR NOT, BUT, UM, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW.
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UM, WE WILL HAVE TWO SEPARATE AGENDAS TODAY.ONE WILL BE A COMBINED CONSENT AGENDA.
WE'LL MAKE A SINGLE MOTION AND DELIBERATION AND TAKE ACTION.
AND ALL ITEMS ARE ELIGIBLE FOR CONSENT EXCEPT FOR ITEMS, UH, NINE AND 11 FOR PURPOSES OF RECUSAL.
ITEM 21, WHICH IS, HAS BEEN POSTPONED 25.
WHICH HAS BEEN POSTPONED 31, WHICH IS WITHDRAWN.
AND ITEM 35, WHICH IS WITHDRAWN.
AND ITEM 30, WHICH IS INDIVIDUAL, I'M SORRY.
AND ITEM 30 WILL BE HURT ON THE INDIVIDUAL CON CONSIDERATION.
ALRIGHT, SO I'LL TAKE, GO AHEAD AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? OR WE SHOULD PULL ADDITIONAL ITEMS? HEARING NONE.
AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE REMOVING ITEMS NINE AND 11 FROM CONSENT, RIGHT? YES.
UH, MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER MILAM.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SIEGEL.
OUR NEXT ITEM WE'LL ASK, UM, COMMISSIONER PECK TO, TO LEAVE.
AND VICE CHAIR PCUS LEFT THE MEETING, UH, FOR ITEMS NUMBER NINE AND 11.
DO I HAVE A MOTION? MOVE TO APPROVE.
MOTION APPROVED BY COMMISSIONER MILAM.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SIEGEL.
WE CAN LET VICE CHAIR PECK BACK IN IF HE WANTS TO COME BACK.
IT'S NINE 13 AND VICE CHAIR PECK HAS RETURNED TO THE MEETING.
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NEXT ITEM WILL BE NUMBER 30.MY NAME IS JOSEPH EOS, PLANNER WITH THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER 30 IS A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE SOUTHEAST COMMUNITY AREA.
PLAN FROM URBAN LOAD DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL LOCATED AT 9 5 0 EAST DREXEL.
THERE WERE 31 NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR TO OPPOSE WITHIN 200 FEET, UH, AND NO RESPONSE FROM THE HIGHLAND PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
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THE APPLICANT SEEKS A PLAN AMENDMENT TO MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO REZONE TO MULTI-FAMILY 33 DISTRICT.THIS IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE ESSAY.
TOMORROW SOUTHEAST COMMUNITY AREA PLAN PLAN'S OBJECTIVE TO MAINTAIN RESIDENTIAL DENSITIES THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH HISTORIC PATTERNS AND PRESERVE ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS.
THE CURRENT LAND USE CLASSIFICATION IS URBAN LOAD DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY USES WITHIN THE IMMEDIATE AREA.
THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.
STAFF RECOMMENDS A DENIAL ON THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? YES SIR.
IF YOU CAN PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
MY NAME IS JOSEPH GUI AND MY ADDRESS IS 74 0 5 HINAN OAK TRAIL LIVE OAK, TEXAS.
AND UH, THIS IS MY FIRST TIME.
I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY, BUT, UH, THE REASON THAT I BOUGHT THIS, UH, PROPERTY HAS BEEN, UH, VACANT FOR THREE YEARS.
AND, UH, I TALKED TO A COUPLE OF NEIGHBORS BEFORE I EVEN PURCHASED IT AND, UH, THEY WANTED SOMEBODY TO GET ABOARD BUYING THIS PROPERTY DUE TO THE FACT THAT THEY HAD SO MANY SQUATTERS, UH, DRUG ADDICTS.
AND ANYWAY, I DID TALK TO THE NEIGHBORS AND, UH, BEFORE I FOUND OUT ABOUT BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY, BECAUSE IT'S A BIG CHALLENGE, WE OWE ABOUT 27 PROPERTIES, BUT MAINLY HOUSES.
WE OWE A COUPLE OF 'EM THERE IN DREXEL.
SO WE'RE NOT NEW TO DREXEL ON 4 0 3, 4 0 5 IS DREXEL.
AND, UH, IT, IT, IT'S, IT'S A BIG CHALLENGE, BUT ALSO IT, IT'S A VERY COSTLY, UH, WE'RE SPENDING CLOSE TO HALF A MILLION DOLLARS, PROBABLY THE BUDGET WILL BE OVER.
AND THE ONLY THING I'M DOING DIFFERENT IS I HAD A CHOICE FROM THE CITY TO GO AHEAD AND RENT THE APARTMENTS THE WAY THEY ARE.
SINCE THEY ALL HAVE ELECTRICITY, THEY ALL HAVE WATER.
BUT I DECIDED TO SEPARATE EACH UNIT WITH IT, DIFFERENT METER UNIT SO EACH TENANT WOULD PAY IN INSTEAD OF THE WAY THEY HAD IT PRORATED.
AND BASICALLY THAT WAS THE CHANGE THAT I MADE.
I, I APPLIED FOR THE, UH, ELECTRICAL AND APPLIED FOR THE PLUMBING ALSO.
'CAUSE I WANTED NEW, NEW PLUMBING ON THE WHOLE SYSTEM.
SO THAT'S WHY I APPLIED FOR, UH, THE REZONING.
IT'S NEW TO ME, BUT THAT'S WHAT I DID.
WE CAN TAKE SOME, UH, QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS.
I'LL START WITH THE COMMISSIONER SIPES, I A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
UM, CURRENTLY, UM, MF 18 WOULD BE ALLOWED AS, AS THE, UNDER THE CURRENT, IT SAYS URBAN LOW ROAD DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
MF 18, WHICH I BELIEVE WOULD ONLY PERMIT UM, THREE OR FOUR UNITS.
DID THE QUESTION TO YOU, THIS UNIT ALREADY FUNCTIONING, DOES IT HAVE POWER ALL COMING FROM ONE METER? EXACTLY.
THAT'S EXACTLY, IT HAS TWO METERS, HAS TWO METERS FOR ALL THE APARTMENTS.
IT'S ALREADY, IT'S ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED.
I MEAN, IT'S BEEN THERE FOR BUSINESS, BUT THE ONLY DIFFERENCE THAT I'M DOING NOW IS BASICALLY LIKE I TOLD YOU, FOR FIRE HAZARDS FOR THE COMMUNITY AND PREVENTION.
ANYTHING I'M DOING, I'M SPENDING THE MONEY BECAUSE BASICALLY I WANT EVERY TENANT TO HAVE THEIR OWN LIGHT BILL INSTEAD OF PRORATED LIKE THEY HAD IT BEFORE MANY YEARS, SO MANY YEARS BECAUSE THIS THING HAS BEEN APARTMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR PROBABLY 40, 50 YEARS.
SO YOU, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE APARTMENT IN THE BACKSIDE.
HOW ABOUT THE MAIN HOUSE IN THE BEGINNING? THE MAIN HOUSE FRONT? NO, THE MAIN HOUSE.
IT'S ALREADY, IT'S A, IT IS A LEGITIMATE, THE MAIN HOUSE.
THAT ONE RIGHT THERE IS A LEGITIMATE OKAY.
YOU CAN GO THROUGH THE CITY AND IT TELL YOU THAT IT'S THAT ONE.
IT'S THE OTHER TWO BUILDINGS THAT I'M, THAT THAT I'M GETTING THE, THE, UH, UNITS SEPARATE AND QUESTION TO THE STAFF.
THE SIX UNITS, INCLUDING THE MAIN HOUSE IN THE FRONT, THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF UNITS WITH HIS CURRENT ZONING, HE'S ONLY PERMITTED ONE DWELLING UNIT AND ONE A DU IF HE WAS LIVING ON THE PROPERTY.
UM, I DO KNOW, UM, I BELIEVE WE WOULD HAVE TO DO A NON-CONFORMING USE, WHICH I BELIEVE WAS NOT GONNA BE THE CASE WITH HOWEVER MANY UNITS ARE ON THIS PROPERTY.
THERE'S POTENTIAL THAT THIS HASN'T BEEN USED.
THERE WAS A LAPSE OF TIME FOR OVER A YEAR POSSIBLY THAT IT HASN'T, ALL SIX UNITS HAVE BEEN USED.
SO THAT'S WHY HE'S GOING WITH THE REZONING.
SO, SORRY, THAT WAS MY QUESTION.
IT'S NOT A PRE-EXISTING NON-CONFORMING BECAUSE OF THE LAPSE OF TENANCY.
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I BELIEVE THAT IS THE CASE, BUT LET ME CONFIRM AGAIN.I DO KNOW THAT IT WAS, THERE WAS AN ATTEMPT FOR A NON-CONFORMING, WHICH I BELIEVE WAS NOT ABLE TO FOLLOW THROUGH.
HERE'S THE, UH, PAPER FROM THE CITY DEVELOPMENT.
THEY, THEY CAN PUT IT ON THE, UH, PUT ON THE PRINTER WHERE YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, FIRST BUILDING THERE IS, UH, LEGITIMATE BUILDING WITH ALL THE PERMITS AND EVERYTHING.
IT'S THE OTHER TWO BUILDINGS THAT I'M ASKING FOR WHICH HA WHICH IT HAS THE OTHER APARTMENTS, FOUR APARTMENTS.
OF COURSE SOMEHOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY MANAGED IN THE YEARS BEFORE TO RUN ALL THE ELECTRICITY FROM THE FRONT, THIS ONE TO ALL THE APARTMENTS.
QUESTION AGAIN, WAS THERE A PERMIT ALREADY FOR THE SSD UNITS IN THE BACK? WE'RE LOOKING INTO THIS BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS WITH OUR OLD SYSTEM IF THERE ARE ANY PERMITS.
I I DID FOLLOW PERMITS ON THE ELECTRICAL AND PLUMBING AND IF YOU, I I, AS A MATTER OF FACT, I GOT 'EM HERE.
I DID AND I'M JUST WAITING FOR, FOR THIS TO GO THROUGH BECAUSE THEY LIKE, LIKE I TALKED TO THE CITY DEVELOPMENT, I HAVE AN OPTION.
I CAN GO AHEAD AND RENT IT THE WAY IT IS OR I CAN UPGRADE IT.
AND MY DECISION WAS TO UPGRADE IT AND I'M PRETTY SURE EVERYBODY HERE AGREES THAT THAT'S THE BEST SOLUTION TO UPGRADE.
OF COURSE, IT'S COSTING MONEY, IT'S GONNA COST ME ABOUT 77,000 JUST FOR THE ELECTRICAL.
AND THEN AFTER, AFTER THEY DESTROY ALL THE BUILDING BECAUSE ELECTRICALS HAVE TO DESTROY 'CAUSE THERE'S GONNA BE A NEW WIRING.
THAT MEANS I HAVE TO RENOVATE EVERY SINGLE ONE BACK AGAIN.
ARE WE STILL WAITING FOR SOME INFORMATION FOR COMMISSIONER MILAM OR DO YOU WANNA COME BACK OR DO YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS? DON'T HAVE MORE QUESTIONS.
DO YOU WANNA WAIT? WE CAN COME BACK.
SO JUST TO CONFIRM THOUGH, THE FOCUS, UM, I MEAN WE, IT LOOKS LIKE THAT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO GET ALL THAT INFORMATION ON PERMITS AT THIS MOMENT.
AND UM, BUT THE FOCUS IS REALLY ON MEDIUM DENSITY IF THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS PROPERTY.
SO WE'RE STAFF FEELS THAT THIS SHOULD BE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND NOT MEDIUM DENSITY.
WELL, AND I I THINK MY QUESTION RELATES TO THAT.
IT ALREADY WAS MEDIUM DENSITY.
WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THEY REZONED I TO IDZ INSTEAD OF MF 33? THE IDZ WOULD HAVE TO STAY WITHIN THE MF 18, UH, DENSITY TO STICK WITH THE LOAD DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
SO THEY WOULD STILL, IF YOU DO IDZ, IT HAS TO BE KIND OF ALIGNED WITH WHAT PERMITTED USES.
SO THAT WOULDN'T PREVENT THEM FROM HAVING TO DO THE LAND USE CHANGE THEN? CORRECT.
YEAH, THEY WOULD STILL NEED TO DO IT.
NO FURTHER QUESTIONS COMMISSIONER SIEGEL.
SO, UM, HOW MANY APARTMENTS WERE EXISTING BEFORE THIS GENTLEMAN, UH, BEFORE THE APPLICANT, UH, PURCHASED THE PROPERTY? I, THAT, THAT MIGHT BE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT UNTIL SHE PULLS UP ANY RECORDS THAT WE HAVE.
WHAT WAS THE QUESTION AGAIN? HOW MANY RENTAL UNITS WERE EXISTING BEFORE YOU BOUGHT THE PROPERTY? ALL OF THEM.
AND IS THAT A NUMBER? CAN CAN YOU SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE SIR? OH, SORRY.
ALL OF THE APARTMENTS, BABE, DO YOU HAVE A NUMBER AT HOW MANY APARTMENTS? YEAH, THE ONES IN THE BACK IS, UH, FIVE FIVE APARTMENTS.
SO FIVE APARTMENTS PLUS THE HOUSE IN THE FRONT PLUS THE HOUSE IN FRONT.
SO SIX UNITS TOTAL? YES MA'AM.
AND HOW MANY UNITS DO YOU WANNA PROCEED WITH EXACTLY.
I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
SO I GUESS STAFF IS TRYING TO CONFIRM HOW THIS PROPERTY ENDED UP WITH SIX UNITS CONSIDERING ITS CURRENT ZONING DOESN'T AND, AND PLAN AMENDMENT DOESN'T ALLOW IT.
AND I GUESS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MAKING RENOVATIONS AND BRINGING IT UP TO CODE AND THAT AND, AND IN YOUR PROCESS OF APPLYING FOR THE PERMITS, YOU'VE RUN INTO THE REALITY THAT THIS BUILDING HAS EXISTED OUTSIDE OF THE CURRENT ZONING AND
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PLANNING, RIGHT? I MEAN THAT'S THE, THAT'S THAT'S THE FUNCTIONAL REALITY, RIGHT? IS THAT YOU, YOU'VE ACQUIRED A BUILDING WITH SIX UNITS, UH, THAT'S SUBJECT TO A ZONING THAT DIDN'T ALLOW SIX UNITS, RIGHT? IS THAT, IS THAT KIND OF WHAT THE CORRECT SETS ON THE GROUND ARE? I'M LOOKING AT, I'M LOOKING AT UM, KIND OF WHAT WE DO WITH NON-CONFORMING USES.WE LOOK AT GOOGLE EARTH ON WIND STRUCTURES OVER CHANGE.
UM, SO THERE WAS THAT MIDDLE STRUCTURE, THERE'S LIKE A MIDDLE STRUCTURE THAT WAS BUILT IN BETWEEN THE YEARS OF 2013 AND 2016.
AND I DON'T SEE HOW, UH, THERE WOULD BE NO VARIANCE APPROVED TO ALLOW ADDITIONAL UNITS ON HERE.
AND AGAIN, THIS WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO OUR HANSSEN TO SEE IF THERE WERE PERMITS PULLED FOR THIS.
BUT THERE WOULD'VE BEEN NO, LIKE ZONING WOULD'VE NEVER APPROVED ADDITIONAL UNITS.
SO THIS EITHER WAS SUBMITTED AS, UM, PART OF THE MAIN STRUCTURE.
IF THEY DID GET THE PERMITS PULLED FOR IT, THAT'S, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THIS WOULD'VE BEEN ADDITIONAL UNITS, ESPECIALLY BETWEEN THE TIME OF 2013 AND 2016 BECAUSE IT WAS ZONED THAT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
AND I'LL JUST ADD FOREST WILSON PRINCIPLE PLANNER.
UM, THERE IS NO NON-CONFORMING USE ON RECORD THAT WE HAVE.
SO ALL OF WHAT KELLY WAS DESCRIBING IS HOW WE WOULD REVIEW THAT.
BUT THERE IS THE, THERE HASN'T BEEN AN APPLICATION FOR NON-CONFORMING USE REGISTRATION.
AND, AND OF COURSE WHEN, EXCUSE ME, WHEN I PURCHASED THE PROPERTY, I WASN'T AWARE OF ANY, ANY SITUATIONS LIKE THIS.
BUT THEN I WONDER, UH, AFTER HOW SO MANY INVESTORS HAD TURNED IT DOWN.
OF COURSE I'M NEW TO, TO, TO GETTING APARTMENTS.
I, I HAVE, LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE SO MANY HOUSES, WE NEVER GOT INVOLVED WITH APARTMENTS.
BUT, UH, I DID TALK TO THE CITY AND THEY TOLD ME THE, THE BUILDING'S ALREADY THERE, THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO.
AND I SAID, WELL, DO WE DEMOLISH OR WHAT? BECAUSE NOW I HEAR THIS AND SAID, NO, YOU LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS.
IT WAS, IT WAS DONE BEFORE, BEFORE YOU.
BUT THEN WE HAD A COUPLE OF INVESTORS THAT, THAT TRIED TO WORK WITH THE, UH, WITH THE, UH, TRYING TO BUY THE PROPERTY AND EVERYBODY BACKED OUT THE LAST MINUTE.
SO WHEN I TRIED TO BUY IT, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, THEY WERE ASKING FOR 118,000 AND THEN I WENT AND, AND I SAID, I'M GONNA BUY IT.
AND THEY AND THE BANK AND THE REALTOR SAY, WE DON'T WANT TO DEAL ANYMORE WITH ANYBODY.
WE'RE JUST GONNA FIGURE OUT WHAT WE GONNA DO WITH THAT PROPERTY BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S IS PULLING OUT.
SO WHAT I DID, IF YOU LOOK AT THE RECORD, I SAID, OKAY, THEY HAD A ONE 18.
AND THEY SAID, WELL, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO SUBMIT THE DIFFERENCE AMOUNT, WHATEVER IT IS, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO SHOW THAT YOU ARE ALREADY SERIOUS AND INTERESTED IN THIS PROPERTY.
'CAUSE THAT HAD BEEN FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS TRYING TO GET SOMEBODY TO GET IT.
SO I, I SEND THE MONEY, I WIRE THE MONEY AND I SAID, OKAY, THIS IS HOW SERIOUS I AM.
I WANNA LET YOU KNOW, BASICALLY BECAUSE IT'S A LOOK GOOD LOCATION.
I DO HAVE SOME PROPERTIES ON DREXEL AND I FEEL THAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS A BETTER, IT, IT, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, THE CITY'S WORKING ON THE STREETS A LOT HAS IMPROVED A LOT.
SO I FELT THAT I SHOULD TAKE A SHOT AT IT.
SO I DID TAKE A GAMBLE, DON'T TAKE ME WRONG, BUT I DID IT BECAUSE I'M NOT, LIKE I SAY IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT PROFITABLE BECAUSE IT, IT WAS GONNA TAKE ME ABOUT 20 YEARS BEFORE I GET MY PROFIT ON ALL THIS MONEY AND I SPEND, 'CAUSE IT'S A RENTAL.
IF IT WAS A FLIP WHERE MASTERS FLIP, WE'RE NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF FLIPPING.
WE'RE IN THE BUSINESS OF LEASING.
THAT'S WHY WE WORK REAL CLOSELY WITH SECTION EIGHT.
SO I HOPE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT GIMME THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET TO GO FORWARD INSTEAD OF BACKWARDS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER? UM, A COUPLE COMMENTS.
I MEAN, ONE, THIS IS A FAIRLY NEW, UH, WELL IT'S ONLY A YEAR OLD.
THE, UH, AREA PLANNER OR THE SA TOMORROW.
UM, DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT DISTRICT IT WAS BEFORE? UM, IT WAS BEFORE WE CHANGED THE, THE PLANS INTO THE SA TOMORROW CATEGORIES? THAT MAY BE A DIFFICULT QUE QUESTION TO RESEARCH.
I'M JUST WONDERING IF, IF IT WOULD'VE, IF, IF THE USE OF THE DISTRICTS WOULD'VE BEEN DIFFERENT IN, YOU KNOW, PRIOR TO 2022 FOR THIS PARTICULAR LAND.
TYPICALLY WE USE LIKE OUR ONE STOP MAP.
AND SO THAT IT'S UPDATED WITH RIGHT.
THE CURRENT TO ESSAY TOMORROW IT, GIMME ONE SECOND BECAUSE I KNOW IT, IT WAS RECENTLY YES.
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SORRY.THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I CAN'T ANSWER AT THIS MOMENT.
SO THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A, IT IS A NEW PLAN AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WE DON'T WANNA CHANGE IT AND, BUT YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS HAS BEEN USED AS A SIX OR ONE A HOUSE AND FIVE UNITS FOR, I DON'T KNOW, FOR HOW LONG? UM, 10 YEARS.
I MEAN, SOME OF IT, UH, SIR, YOU KNOW, FROM THE PROPERTIES TO LOOK AT THE, THE PLAN, UH, AMENDMENTS AND, AND ZONING THAT THEY ARE ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
BUT, AND, AND THE THING ABOUT IT, I WANNA LET YOU KNOW, UH, THE MEETING, UH, THIS AMENDMENT ON MY SITUATION WAS POSTPONED BECAUSE AFTER FILLING THE APPLICATION ALL THAT, TWO WEEKS LATER I WAS CALLED BY THE CITY, BY THE CITY DEVELOPMENT AND SAY, HEY, BY THE WAY, THERE'S A HOME ASSOCIATION, RIGHT? THERE'S THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
SO I HAD TO COME BACK AND FILL ANOTHER APPLICATION, FILL ANOTHER THING.
AND IT IS BEEN, IT'S BEEN DELAYED FOR ME.
OF COURSE, I GOT MY PERMITS READY TO ROLL AND I NEED TO START MOVING ON THE CITY.
THIS IS THIS BECAUSE WE'RE HOLDING SO MUCH MONEY ON IT, ON MY PROJECT AND I WANT, AND ALL I'M DOING IS BETTERING THE CITY.
I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, DETERIORATING THE CITY OR ANYTHING.
IT'S JUST MAKING BETTER THE COMMUNITY.
YOU KNOW, MY RECOMMENDATION THOSE MOVING FORWARD IS THAT YOU EITHER, YOU KNOW, ENGAGE WITH SOMEBODY THAT DOES, YOU KNOW, REAL ESTATE ENTITLEMENT WORK OR THAT SO THAT YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE BUYING AND WHAT WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO GET IT TO THE USES YOU NEED IT TO BE.
NOW GRANTED IT WAS BEING USED AS A, YOU KNOW, SIX UNITS.
YOU, YOU KNOW, HOW BAD THE, THE, THE ECONOMY IS RIGHT NOW WITH THE REALTORS, YOU KNOW HOW THE MARKET IS.
EVERY REALTOR WANTS TO MAKE A SALE.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT TO THEM.
AND I'M PRETTY SURE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE BREAD AND BUTTER FOR THE, OF THEIR INCOME AND THEY WANT US, THEY WANNA DO SOMETHING NOW, BASICALLY.
THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO TOO.
AND IT'S HARD FOR THEM BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY GOT AN INCOME, THEY, THEY GOT A FAMILY SUPPORT AND IT'S A BUNCH OF THE REALTORS RIGHT NOW ARE WORKING IN RESTAURANTS, WORKING IN DIFFERENT PLACES.
'CAUSE THE MARKET'S NOT THERE.
YEAH, NO, I I I JUST KINDA PROVIDE THAT AS JUST SOME SORT OF, AND IT'S TRUE.
BUT I JUST CAN'T GET UP TO A REALTOR BECAUSE THE FACT IS IT'S, SHE WAS TRYING TO MAKE A SALE.
SO WE DID FIND SOME MORE INFORMATION.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS PART OF THE HIGHLANDS PARK, UM, COMMUNITY PLAN.
AND IT WAS DESIGNATED, UH, LOAD DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS MAINLY FOR SINGLE FAMILY.
BUT ALSO THIS IS A OLDER PROPERTY THAT WAS ZONED B WHICH IS A TWO RESIDENCE DISTRICT.
AND SO WITH ZONING IT WOULD BE PERMITTED, UM, A DUPLEX.
SO DEFINITELY CAN DO TWO UNITS.
UM, THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT IT WAS APPROVED TO BE BUILT FOR.
UM, BUT AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION RIGHT NOW ON ANY CPS IF HE'S ALREADY GOT TWO METERS AND THEY WERE USED.
SADLY THAT CAN'T BE UTILIZED TO SEE HOW MANY OTHER UNITS WERE PERMITTED.
AND I RESPECT STAFF AND THEIR ANALYSIS AND, AND, UH, WHY THEY RECOMMENDED DENIAL.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT A VACANT PIECE OF LAND THAT SOMEBODY'S COMING IN.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN IN THE COMMUNITY, HAS BEEN USED AS A, AS A MULTI-FAMILY.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF, UH, ZONING APPROVES IT TO MF 33 SIXES, IF I DID THE MATH RIGHT, IS THE MOST THAT THEY CAN UNIT YOU CAN HAVE ON THIS KIND OF SMALL PIECE OF PROPERTY.
SO, UH, ANYTHING ABOVE THAT, THEY HAVE TO GO BACK TO ZONING OR SEEK A HIGHER AMENDMENT.
SO, UM, I, I'M LEANING IN, IN FAVOR OF THE APPLICANT, BUT I WILL, UH, LEAVE IT UP TO THE COMMISSIONERS FOR A MOTION OR ANY FURTHER COMMENTS.
YEAH, CAN, CAN I JUST ASK THE APPLICANT WHAT STOPS YOU FROM THE RENOVATION RIGHT NOW ON THE EXISTING STRUCTURES? I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THAT AGAIN? WHAT STOPS YOU FROM RENOVATION NOW? ON THE EXISTING STRUCTURES? IT'S THE GETTING THE, UH, PERMIT.
PERMIT FOR, I MEAN I GOT THE PERMITS APPLICATIONS ALREADY FILLED OUT.
ALL I GOTTA GET IS THE PEOPLE'S, THE ELECTRICIAN AND PLUMBERS TO GO TO MY BUILDING.
BUT THEN AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO HOLD THE MONEY FOR A PROJECT THAT'S GONNA BE HOLD FOR THIS, YOU KNOW, OR ANYTHING ELSE.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING AS FAR AS THE MONEY OF THE PROJECT, WE'RE READY TO MOVE.
BUT I ALSO WANT TO BE CONFIDENT THAT I'M NOT INJECTING MORE MONEY WHERE I COULD BE INJECTING IN OTHER AREAS INSTEAD OF THIS.
I MEAN, IF IT WAS A HOUSE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ME PUTTING PROBABLY ABOUT 70, $75,000 IN A HOME TO RENOVATE IT AND REMODELING THE FOUNDATION.
EVERYTHING, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MORE MONEY BECAUSE JUST ELECTRICITY, THE ELECTRICAL COMPANY THAT CHARGED ME, I HAVE ONE CHARGE ME 60, 65,000.
AND AS YOU GO ON AND ON, YOU'RE TRYING TO FIND OUT WHO IS THE RIGHT ELECTRICIAN TO DO MY WORK ALSO TOOK ME THREE PLUMBERS COMPANIES, EVEN THOUGH I I, I PAID ONE OF THEM $7,000 AND AS OF RIGHT NOW, UH, HE ONLY, HE WAS GONNA GET AN INSPECTION.
HE DIDN'T EVEN GET IT JUST FOR THE FIRST
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UNIT.IT'S HARD TO GO INTO THE COURT TRYING TO GET THIS MONEY BACK IN A YEAR.
SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHAT I GOT AND EVERYTHING IS SIGNED WITH THE CONTRACTOR, SIGNED WITH, WITH MY, MY LAWYER.
EVERYTHING IS FINE 'CAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH THIS SITUATION LIKE I DID ON 4 0 3, 4 0 5, I PAID FOR A FOUNDATION.
AND THAT WAS ON 4 0 3, 4 0 5 DREXEL.
I TOOK A GAMBLE, BUT NO, JUST, JUST TO CLARIFY HERE.
YOU APPLIED FOR A PERMIT, RIGHT? I ALREADY UPFRONT.
DID YOU GET APPROVAL ON THE PERMIT? UH, YES.
RIGHT HERE YOU GET APPROVAL OF TO DOING PLUMBING AND ELECTRICAL WORK ALREADY FROM THE CITY.
THE PROBLEM HERE, RIGHT HERE, YES.
THERE IS ALSO, BUT HERE IT IS.
SO THE QUESTION TO THE CITY, IF HE GETS ALREADY PERMITS TO DO THE RENOVATIONS ON EXISTING STRUCTURES, WHAT IS THE PROBLEM? NOW, IF YOU CAN JUST RENOVATE WHAT YOU HAVE.
YOU ALREADY HAVE THE ELECTRICAL AND THE PLUMBING APPROVED.
WHAT IS THE PROBLEM? WELL, THE BIGGEST ISSUE, IF HE'S TO PULL DIFFERENT METERS, HE WOULD NEED SEPARATE ADDRESSES AND ADDRESSING IS NOT GONNA GIVE HIM SIX UNIT NUMBERS.
THAT'S, SO YOU WANTED TO HAVE SIX DIFFERENT ADDRESSES OR, AND DIFFERENT METERS.
BECAUSE EACH ONE OF 'EM IS GONNA HAVE THEIR OWN METER, EACH TENANT.
IT'S ONLY BETTER FOR EACH TENANT.
THAT WAY YOU DON'T HAVE A COMPLAINT.
SO, AND YOU CANNOT WORK WITH ONE SINGLE METER AND TRY TO PROVIDE THAT TO THE TENANTS.
JUST TO SETTLE WITH THIS? YES.
HERE'S THE PERMIT AND I SEPARATED.
AND, AND LIKE I TOLD YOU BEFORE, I ALREADY HAD APPLIED FOR PLUMBING AND THE PLUMBER DIDN'T SHOW UP, SO I HAD TO APPLY FOR ANOTHER PLUMBING THERE.
AND NOT ONLY IS THE HARD THING ABOUT IT IS TRYING TO GET THE PEOPLE TO FINISH AND, AND WORK YOUR PROJECT.
THAT'S THE HARDEST PART RIGHT NOW.
AND IF I GET DELAYED MORE AND MORE, YOU KNOW, IT, IT JUST, IT MAKES IT WORSE FOR ME DOWN THE ROAD.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? THE DELIBERATION IS CLOSED.
I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.
SECOND MOTION TO APPROVE A APPLICANT'S REQUEST, UM, FOR MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL BY COMMISSIONER SIEGEL.
UH, BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE MINUTES, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, AND NOBODY HERE IS NOT HERE TO SPEAK FOR ITEM 31 OR 35.
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UH, LAST ITEM IS THE MINUTES FROM NOVEMBER 15TH.I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE SOME AMENDMENTS TO BE MADE.
MOTION TO APPROVE MINUTES BY COMMISSIONER MILAM.
DO WE HAVE ANY DIRECTOR'S REPORT TODAY? NOT TODAY.