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GOOD MORNING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

MY NAME IS DWAYNE NELSON.

I'LL BE THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BUILD, UH, BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.

UH, THE DATE IS DECEMBER THE 14TH, UH, 2023.

UH, WELCOME TO THE BOARD.

UH, IF WE COULD, LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

DWAYNE NELSON.

PRESENT FRED ANDIS.

PRESENT.

KAYLA MIRANDA.

PRESENT MS. BROWN.

HERE.

JOELLE SOLIS.

PRESENT.

DR.

LIN LOPEZ RODRIGUEZ.

PRESENT.

JESSE ZUNIGA.

PRESENT.

ALSO PRESENT IN THE MEETING FROM THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ARE ERIC BURNS FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND FROM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

AMIN TOMAS, DEPUTY DIRECTOR JENNY RAMIREZ, CODE ENFORCEMENT MANAGER, JUDY KRUM, BSB LIAISON, ESTHER ORTIZ, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES SPECIALIST.

AND JEN AND MYSELF, JENNIFER MARTINEZ, ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT TO CHAIR.

QUORUM IS PRESENT.

THANK YOU.

IF WE COULD, LET'S HAVE THE TRANSLATION SERVICE PRESENTATION.

GOOD MORNING.

UH, THANK YOU.

A QUORUM FOR THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD IS PRESENT.

PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONE OR ANY DEVICE THAT MAY DISRUPT THE PUBLIC HEARING.

NO PERSON SHALL DELAY OR DISRUPT THE PROCEEDINGS OR DISOBEY THE ORDER OF THE CHAIR.

IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON A CASE, YOU'LL BE ALLOWED THREE MINUTES.

HOWEVER, AN OWNER OR OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE WILL HAVE UNLIMITED TIME.

PLEASE KEEP ALL INFORMATION RELEVANT TO THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION AND THE CODE VIOLATIONS AS ADVISED PRIOR TO THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THE CITY WILL PROVIDE TRANSLATION SERVICES FOR ANYONE NEEDING ASSISTANCE.

IT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU'VE MADE SUCH ARRANGEMENT AS ADVISED IN YOUR NOTICE OF HEARING.

OUR EXPECTATION IS THAT YOU'VE SUBMITTED THE REQUIRED DOCUMENTS PRIOR TO THE PUBLIC HEARING.

YOUR RESPONSIBILITY AS A PROPERTY OWNER OR LIEN HOLDER OF A DILAPIDATED STRUCTURE CASE IS TO DEMONSTRATE THE FOLLOWING.

NUMBER ONE, PROVIDE THE REQUIRED WORK, EXCUSE ME.

PROVIDE THE REQUIRED DOCUMENTS.

DISCUSS YOUR DETAILED SCOPE OF WORK WITH A COST FOR EACH OUTLINED IN ORDER TO BRING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE TO THE SATISFACTION OF A CODE OFFICER.

NUMBER TWO, SUBMIT THE REQUIRED PROOF OF FINANCIAL ABILITY TO PAY FOR PROPOSED WORK AND DISCUSS FEASIBILITY REPAIRS DEPENDENT UPON MONIES AT HAND.

AND NUMBER THREE, REQUEST THE AMOUNT OF TIME NEEDED TO COMPLETE THE WORK.

ALL ABATEMENTS ORDERED BY THE BOARD SHALL BE ENFORCED.

ALL WERE PROPOSED MUST BE DONE WITHIN CODE REGULATIONS WITH REQUIRED PERMITS PRIOR TO TO THE COMMENCEMENT OF WORK.

YOU MAY OBTAIN ALL PERMITS FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES LOCATED IN THIS BUILDING AT 1901 SOUTH ALAMO STREET, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 0 4.

IF IN DOUBT AS TO PROCESS DURING THIS TIME, PLEASE CONTACT THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.

ANY OWNER OR LIEN HOLDER DISSATISFIED WITH THE ORDER OF THIS BOARD MAY FILE AN APPEAL IN CIVIL DISTRICT COURT WITHIN 30 DAYS AFTER THE DATE THAT THE ORDER IS MAILED.

IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ORDER, PLEASE CONTACT A CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER OR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES STAFF MEMBER BY PHONE AT (210) 207-5422.

PLEASE NOTE THAT IT'S UNLAWFUL FOR ANY PERSON PRESENT TO SOLICIT OR PEDAL SERVICES REGARDING ANY PROPERTY UNDER CONSIDERATION BY THIS BOARD DURING THE COURSE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AS PER CITY CODE SECTION 16 DASH 2 36.

THANK YOU.

AT THIS TIME, IT'S, UH, MY DISPLEASURE, I GUESS TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE DID LOSE ONE OF OUR MEMBERS OF THE SAN ANTONIO BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD.

CHERISE GUPTA HAS PASSED AWAY.

AND I'M SORRY TO ANNOUNCE THAT, UH, HE DID HOWEVER, DIE PEACEFULLY AT HOME WITH FAMILY PRESENT.

UH, IF WE COULD, WE WILL TAKE A MOMENT TO REMEMBER MR. GUPTA'S SERVICE TO THE CITY.

THANK YOU.

AT THIS TIME, THE, UH, BOARD WILL TAKE NOMINATIONS FOR CUT HIS BUSINESS OUT.

UH, CORRECTION.

[ Approval of Minutes  ]

UH, THE PANEL HAS ACTUALLY RECEIVED COPIES OF THE LAST, UH, BOARD MEETING.

THAT WAS OCTOBER THE 12TH, 2023.

AND AT THIS TIME, THE CHAIR WOULD TAKE A MOTION OR CORRECTION.

MR. CHAIR, THIS IS FRED ANDIS.

I, UH, MOTION THAT

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WE APPROVE THE MINUTES AS IS MR. STRANDIS MOVE THAT THE MINUTES BE APPROVED AS DRAFTED AND PRESENTED TO THE BOARD.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND.

AND WE HAVE A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO PASS THE MINUTES TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED IN DRAFT, SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAYYY.

THAT MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

AND NOW THEN WE WILL GO TO SELECTION OF THE VICE CHAIR.

AND WITH THAT, THE CHAIR WOULD NOMINATE FRED ANDES BASED ON HIS PAST EXPERIENCE AS THE VICE CHAIR.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS FROM THE FLOOR? WELL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT.

UH, FRED IS ELECTED AS, UH, WITH THE VICE CHAIR OF PANEL B.

THE MOTION IS TO ELECT FRED TO END US AS THE VICE CHAIR UNANIMOUSLY.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND.

UH, WE HAVE A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO ACCEPT MR. ANDES AS THE VICE CHAIR BY ACCLAMATION.

PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAYYY.

THAT MOTION CARRIES.

CONGRATULATIONS MR. STRANDIS.

THANK YOU.

YOU ARE THE VICE CHAIR.

[ Briefing and Possible Action on the following items  ]

UH, AT THIS TIME WE HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THE VACANT BUILDING PROGRAM PRESENTATION, AND KATHY RODRIGUEZ IS HERE TO PRESENT THAT.

KATHY, WELCOME.

THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN, AND FIRST OF ALL, TO YOU AND THE BOARD MEMBERS, UH, MY CONDOLENCES FOR THE LOSS OF YOUR BOARD MEMBER.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

KATHY, WELCOME BACK TO YOUR STOPPING GROUNDS, YOUR OLD STOPPING GROUNDS, AND THERE'S A PDF VERSION IF YOU NEED TO COPY THAT FOR YOUR RECORDS.

SO I'LL, I'LL START.

GOOD, GOOD MORNING.

UM, AGAIN, I'M KATHY RODRIGUEZ.

I'M A DEPUTY HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICER, UH, FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.

IT'S BEEN SOME TIME SINCE I'VE BEEN BEFORE THE BOARD, SO, UH, I SEE MANY FAMILIAR FACES AND NEW FACES.

AND MS. BROWN, IT'S SO GOOD TO SEE YOU.

I HAVEN'T SEEN YOU SINCE PRE COVID, I THINK PRE PANDEMIC .

SO WELL, UH, THIS MORNING, UM, AT YOUR PLEASURE, I'D LIKE TO GIVE A PRESENTATION ABOUT THE VACANT BUILDING PROGRAM, UH, TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF, UH, THE PROGRAM.

UM, IT IS HOUSED WITHIN THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION, BUT I ALWAYS REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THE JURISDICTION FOR THIS PROGRAM EXTENDS BEYOND HISTORIC PROPERTIES.

SO WE, UH, HAVE A LARGER FOOTPRINT THAN OUR HISTORIC DISTRICTS.

SO THIS MORNING, UH, I'LL GIVE YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE PROGRAM, UH, HOW IT STARTED, UM, THE CHARGE, THE GOALS, UM, OUR PROGRAM AREA, AND SOME OF THE COMPONENTS OF THE PROGRAM.

UH, WE'LL ALSO TALK ABOUT A FEW OF OUR INITIATIVES AND, UH, INITIATIVES THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE AND SOME THAT ARE IN, IN THE WORKS AND BEING PLANNED.

AND THEN ALSO ANNOUNCE A, UH, RECENT EXPANSION THAT WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL THAT WE WILL BECOME EFFECTIVE ON JANUARY ONE.

NEXT SLIDE.

DO I JUST LET YOU KNOW, OR WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO DO IT? I CAN DO IT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

SO, A BRIEF, UH, OVERVIEW OF THE PROGRAM.

SO THE VACANT BUILDING PROGRAM WAS ORIGINALLY ESTABLISHED IN 2014, AND IT WAS AN 18 MONTH PILOT PROGRAM WENT INTO EFFECT IN 2015.

THE, UH, PROGRAM AREA AT THAT TIME WAS PRIMARILY THE, UH, CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT.

UH, IT IN INCORPORATED WHAT WE USED TO CALL THE ORIGINAL 36 SQUARE MILES OF THE CITY, WHICH WAS THE ORIGINAL, UM, CITY LIMITS AT ESTABLISHMENT.

UM, IT EXPANDED IN 2017 AND BECAME A PERMANENT PROGRAM AT THAT TIME.

THE PROGRAM AREA, UH, GREW FROM 35 SQUARE MILES TO 128 SQUARE MILES.

AND THE PROGRAM DOES, UM, INCLUDE STRUCTURES THAT ARE RESIDENTIAL AND NON-RESIDENTIAL.

SO THAT MEANS MULTIFAMILY OR COMMERCIAL.

AND THE CHARGE OF THE PROGRAM IS TO BETTER ADDRESS THOSE PROBLEMS THAT ARE COMMON TO VACANT STRUCTURES, WHICH THIS BOARD IS ALL TOO FAMILIAR WITH.

UM, WE DO TAKE A SOLUTIONS DRIVEN APPROACH.

MY TEAM IS PRIMARILY MADE UP OF CASE MANAGERS THAT SPEND A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TIME WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS OF VACANT STRUCTURES TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE ISSUES ARE, UH, WHAT ARE THE CHALLENGES THAT THEY'RE FACING THAT'S LEADING TO THAT LONG-TERM VACANCY, AND HELP CONNECT THEM WITH, UH, POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS, WHETHER THAT'S A PROGRAM OR RESOURCE WITHIN THE CITY OR AN OUTSIDE ENTITY THAT MAY BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THEM SOME SUPPORT.

WE ALSO SUPPORT THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE THE NEIGHBORS OF VACANT STRUCTURES, AND I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HOW WE DO THAT.

THE PROGRAM BY NATURE IS ALSO INTENDED TO INCREASE PUBLIC SAFETY BY ELIMINATING THOSE ENVIRONMENTAL

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FACTORS THAT MAY CONTRIBUTE TO CRIME LIKE VACANT STRUCTURES.

UM, THIS ALIGNS WITH THE CITY'S SAPD, UM, UH, CRIME PREVENTION PLAN.

AND IT'S PART OF THE MID STRATEGY, MIDTERM STRATEGY, WHICH IS TO, UM, THINK ABOUT, UM, LIGHTING, SIDEWALKS, VACANT STRUCTURES, UM, THOSE THINGS THAT MIGHT BE CONTRIBUTING TO AREAS WHERE CRIME SEEMS TO BE MORE PREVALENT.

AND THEN LASTLY, BY REUSING THIS EXISTING BUILDING STOCK, WE ARE SPURRING, UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UH, WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF SAN ANTONIO.

AND KEEP IN MIND, I THINK YOU ALL KNOW THAT WHEN A HOUSE IS WORKED ON, UH, IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT BRINGS A LITTLE BIT MORE ECONOMIC, UH, ACTIVITY TO THOSE CORRIDORS IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS, CONTRACTORS COME INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY BUY GAS, ICE WATER, THEY EAT LUNCH.

AND SO IT REALLY DOES SUPPORT THE NEIGHBORHOOD OVERALL WHEN WE CAN HAVE A PROPERTY OWNER GET TO WORK AND FIX UP THEIR VACANT STRUCTURE.

THE CURRENT PROGRAM AREA, WHICH WAS PART OF THE 2017 EXPANSION, COVERS ABOUT 128 SQUARE MILES OF THE CITY.

UH, WE CURRENTLY HAVE 818 ACTIVE CASES IN OUR INVENTORY.

AND I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS.

UM, THE CURRENT PROGRAM AREA INCLUDES THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT, HISTORIC DISTRICTS CONSERVATION, NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICTS, TOURS, CORRIDORS, AND, UH, A BUFFER AROUND ACTIVE MILITARY BASES.

I OFTEN DESCRIBE IT IN THIS WAY.

THINK ABOUT AREAS OF TOWN WHERE THERE'S PROGRAMS THAT ARE MEANT TO REVITALIZE.

THEN THOSE ARE KIND OF THE AREAS THAT WE'RE ALSO IN, WHICH I THINK IS, IS IDEAL BECAUSE WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER, UH, PROGRAMS AND POLICIES TO AFFECT CHANGE, WHICH, UM, THE HOPE IS THAT WE WILL HAVE A, A LARGER IMPACT BY COMBINING THESE EFFORTS.

THE, UM, EXPANSION THAT IS COMING EFFECTIVE JANUARY ONE WILL INCLUDE A THOUSAND FOOT BUFFER AROUND ALL SCHOOLS WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF SAN ANTONIO.

AND THAT'S THE EXACT SAME CODE LANGUAGE THAT YOU'LL FIND IN A LOT OF THE CODE ENFORCEMENT, UM, ORDINANCES, AS WELL AS SOLID WAYS.

IT ALLOWS THE CITY TO ABATE, UM, TO TAKE, UH, TO ESCALATE ACTIONS FOR ABATEMENT AND TO RESOLVE ISSUES.

SO WE'RE ADOPTING THAT, UH, AREA AS WELL AS PART OF OUR JURISDICTION.

WE TALKED ABOUT HOW, UM, SO OUR OFFICE HAS BEEN FOCUSED FOR OVER A DECADE IN MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE, UM, ENGAGING WITH OUR COMMUNITY, MAKING SURE WE'RE INCREASING ACCESS TO INFORMATION TO STAFF AND RESOURCES FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT WE SERVE.

AND ALONG WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO'S EFFORTS TO IMPROVE OUR ONLINE RESOURCES, WE HAVE MADE SOME UPDATES TO OUR OWN WEBSITE.

AND, UM, THIS IS JUST A SNAPSHOT OF THAT WEBSITE, BUT IT'S VERY EASY VISITING OUR LANDING PAGE TO I TO, TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE VACANT BUILDING PROGRAM AREA.

THERE IS AN INTERACTIVE GIS MAP WHERE YOU CAN ENTER AN ADDRESS AND IT WILL TELL YOU IF IT'S WITHIN THE PROGRAM.

IT WILL ALSO LET YOU KNOW IF WE HAVE AN ACTIVE CASE ON THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY.

WE ALSO HAVE A TAB ON OUR WEBSITE TO REPORT A VACANT BUILDING PROPERTY, UM, NEIGHBORS AND PROPERTY OWNERS CAN REPORT ANONYMOUSLY.

UM, AND THAT IS AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE.

AND THERE'S ALSO INFO INFORMATION ABOUT THE STANDARD OF CARE, WHICH IS AN ESSENTIAL AND IMPORTANT COMPONENT OF OUR PROGRAM, AND I'LL TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT IN A SECOND.

UM, BUT THAT IS A GOOD RESOURCE FOR PROPERTY OWNERS SO THEY CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT DO WE MEAN BY THE MINIMUM STANDARD OF CARE AND HOW CAN THEY ACHIEVE THAT.

OH, I SHOULD ALSO MENTION THAT ON THAT, UH, WEBSITE IS THE STAFF CONTACT INFORMATION.

UH, SHOULD YOU EVER WANNA REACH ANYONE, UM, ANY MEMBER OF MY TEAM? OH, GOING THE WRONG WAY.

AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE CURRENTLY HAVE, UM, OH NO, THIS SLIDE IS NOT UPDATED.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE 818 ACTIVE CASES WITHIN OUR INVENTORY.

THAT MEANS, UM, WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THESE STRUCTURES WITHIN OUR PROGRAM AREA, AND THEY EITHER DO NOT MEET THE MINIMUM STANDARD OF CARE, OR THEY'RE JUST SIMPLY A VACANT STRUCTURE THAT NEEDS TO REGISTER WITH OUR OFFICE.

I PUT THIS TABLE TOGETHER BECAUSE I THINK IT'S INTERESTING TO NOTE THAT, UM, WE HAVE BEEN CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT THE LEAF LIFE OF THE PROGRAM TO HAVE ABOUT 60, 65% OF THESE VACANT STRUCTURES AS IDENTIFIED AS SINGLE FAMILY VERSUS COMMERCIAL OR ROYALTY FAMILY.

AND THAT'S JUST IMPORTANT DATA FOR US TO KEEP IN MIND AS WE'RE DEVELOPING PROGRAMS AND RESOURCES AND ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHO ARE THE PROPERTY OWNERS.

I WOULD ADD ALSO THAT, UM, OF THAT 64% OF SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURES IN OUR INVENTORY, UM, I WOULD, I THINK THE LAST NUMBER WAS ABOUT 65

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TO 70% OF THOSE, THESE OWNERS ARE LOCAL, SO THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY INVESTORS FROM OUTSIDE OF SAN ANTONIO OR OUTSIDE OF THE STATE THAT ARE BUYING UP PROPERTIES AND HOLDING THEM, ALTHOUGH THAT IS THE CASE IN SOME OF THESE.

UH, BUT WE DO HAVE A LARGE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS WHO'VE INHERITED HOUSES, UH, THROUGH FAMILY, UM, OR HAVE JUST ACQUIRED THEM AND THEN FIND THEMSELVES IN A SITUATION WHERE THEY'RE NOT REALLY SURE WHAT TO DO WITH THEM.

UM, SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING AN EYE ON THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS.

WE DON'T WANT TO CAUSE AN UNDUE HARDSHIP ON ANYONE, BUT WE DO WANT THEM TO BE RESPONSIBLE PROPERTY OWNERS AND, UM, E ENCOURAGE THEM TO TAKE STEPS TOWARDS RESOLVING THOSE ISSUES.

EVEN IF THAT MEANS SELLING A PROPERTY, WE DON'T FORCE THEM TO DO THAT, BUT IF THAT'S WHAT THEY'D LIKE TO DO, WE'RE THERE TO HELP THEM PROMOTE AND MAYBE EVEN CONTACT, UM, SOME, UM, REALTORS OR RESOURCES TO HELP THEM, UM, MAKE THAT SELL POSSIBLE.

SO THIS IS JUST A VERY, VERY HIGH OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE PROGRAM COMPONENTS ARE.

AND JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, WHEN MY TEAM IS WORKING WITH A NEWLY IDENTIFIED PROPERTY, IF WE FOLLOW EACH STEP OF THE CODE, AND I CALL 'EM MILESTONES, IF WE FOLLOW EACH ONE OF THOSE WITH THE NOTIFICATION PERIOD REQUIRED BY THE CODE, IT'S ABOUT SIX MONTHS FROM IDENTIFICATION TO ACTUALLY TAKING SOMEBODY TO COURT.

AND I SAY THAT OUT LOUD BECAUSE WE DO HAVE NEIGHBORS THAT, UH, WILL CONTACT US BECAUSE THERE IS SOMETHING URGENT HAPPENING ON THAT SITE.

AND SO THEIR BELIEF IS THAT WE, WE ARE ABLE TO ADDRESS IMMEDIATE ISSUES THAT MAYBE NEED TO BE ABATED.

OUR PROGRAM HAS A LITTLE BIT BROADER HORIZON, BUT WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES SO THAT IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS IMMEDIATE ATTENTION, WE DO COORDINATE WITH THE FIELD SERVICES TEAM TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ACTION, UH, IN THOSE CASES.

BUT JUST KIND OF HIGH LEVEL WHAT THE TEAM DOES.

ONCE A PROPERTY'S BEEN REPORTED TO US, OR WE'VE IDENTIFIED IT IN SURVEY WORK, MEANING WE'RE OUT IN THE FIELD AND WE COME ACROSS A VACANT STRUCTURE, OR WE HEAR ABOUT A VACANT STRUCTURE THROUGH OUR COORDINATION WITH DSD, WE HAVE AN EARLY WARNING LIST WITH THE DP TEAM.

SO IF THEY ENCOUNTER A DANGEROUS PREMISE, WE'LL GET NOTICE OF THAT VERY EARLY ON SO THAT IF IT IS A VACANT STRUCTURE, NOT ALREADY IN OUR INVENTORY, WE CAN GET TO WORK.

ONCE WE'VE IDENTIFIED A STRUCTURE, THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES US TO OBSERVE THAT PROPERTY FOR 30 DAYS.

SO WHAT MY TEAM DOES IS WE DO AN INITIAL INSPECTION SO THAT WE COULD CAPTURE THOSE CONDITIONS, UM, BY PHOTOGRAPHY.

AND WE DO HAVE A FORM THAT WE FILL OUT OR AN INSPECTION FORM, AND THEN WE DO SOME RESEARCH.

WHAT IS THE, UH, UTILITY USAGE? UM, ARE THERE PERMITS POOLED? JUST TO TRY TO GET AN IDEA OF WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THAT STRUCTURE AFTER THE 30 DAYS.

IF IT MEETS THE DEFINITION OF VACANT ACCORDING TO THE ORDINANCE, THEN WE WILL NOTIFY THE PROPERTY OWNER.

UH, WE'LL PROVIDE THEM WHAT WE CALL THE INITIAL NOTICE THAT LETS THEM KNOW THAT THEY'RE WITHIN THIS PROGRAM AREA AND THAT THERE'S SOME REQUIREMENTS THEY'RE GONNA NEED TO COMPLY WITH.

MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE ENCOURAGE THEM, JUST CONTACT US.

WE JUST WANNA KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE BUILDING.

MAYBE THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF MAKING REPAIRS SO THEY CAN MAKE IT AVAILABLE TO A TENANT, OR MAYBE THEY'RE THINKING OF SELLING.

IF WE CAN GET A HOLD OF THEM EARLY ON, WE MAY BE ABLE TO UPDATE THE STATUS OF THAT PROPERTY AND ENCOURAGE THEM TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME PLANS KNOWING THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO COMPLY.

AND THEN MAYBE WE DON'T EVEN NEED TO ENTER THEM INTO THE ORDINANCE.

THEY'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH THEIR PLANS.

AND WE HAVE ONE LESS PROPERTY TO DEAL WITH.

BUT THAT IS ALWAYS THE CHALLENGE, IS GETTING PROPERTY OWNERS TO REACH OUT TO US.

THEY GET A LETTER FROM THE CITY, THE LAST THING THEY WANNA DO IS CALL US BACK.

SO WE DO PROVIDE THAT NOTIFICATION.

THEY HAVE 90 DAYS TO COMPLY, REGISTER, MEET THE MINIMUM STANDARD OF CARE.

IF THEY DO NOT CONTACT US WITHIN THOSE 90 DAYS.

THEN WHAT THE STAFF REALLY DOES AT THAT POINT IS WE GO TO WORK, WE TRY TO IDENTIFY A RESPONSIBLE PARTY.

WE WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE PROPERTY TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY ACTIVITY HAPPENING.

ARE THERE ANY PERMITS BEING PULLED? WE WILL CHECK THE COUNTY COURT CLERK'S RECORDS TO SEE IF THERE'S MAYBE A CHANGE OF OWNERSHIP.

WE'LL EVEN CHECK THE, UM, REAL ESTATE LISTINGS.

MAYBE IT'S FOR SALE AND IT JUST DOESN'T HAVE A POSTED SIGN.

UM, IF TIME GOES BY AND WE DO NOT HEAR FROM AN INDIVIDUAL, AND THE CONDITION OF THE PROPERTY REMAINS TO BE THE SAME, WE CAN FILE A COURT CASE AGAINST THAT PROPERTY OWNER.

IT'S A CLASS C MISDEMEANOR.

UH, IT IS A MUNICIPAL COURT CASE, BUT I WILL TELL YOU THE OBJECTIVE OF THE PROGRAM ISN'T NECESSARILY TO TAKE EVERYBODY TO COURT, BECAUSE WHAT WILL HAPPEN WHEN THEY GET TO COURT IS THEY WILL EITHER, UM, TAKE THE FINE AND MOVE ON, OR IT'LL ENCOURAGE THEM TO MAKE SOME CHANGES, WHICH IS WHAT WE WOULD HOPE.

UM, BUT IDEALLY THAT IS GONNA COST THAT PROPERTY OWNER SOME MONEY IN SOME TIME.

IF WE CAN HAVE THEM CONTACT US IN ADVANCE, THERE'S A LOT WE CAN DO TO WORK WITH THEM, UM, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THEM, WE WANT THEM TO FIX UP THE HOUSE,

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WE WANT THEM TO MAKE THOSE REPAIRS, IMPROVE THOSE CONDITIONS.

IF YOU WANNA KEEP IT VACANT, YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO DO THAT, BUT IT MUST MEET THE MINIMUM STANDARD OF CARE.

SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT THESE CASE MANAGERS ARE VERY PROACTIVE AND MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO REACH A PROPERTY OWNER.

BEFORE WE GET TO THE COURT CASE SIDE, AND I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT SOME OF THESE OUTCOMES LOOK LIKE, UM, IN TERMS OF COURT CASE VERSUS CASE MANAGEMENT, WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO AFFECT CHANGE.

SO I WANNA HIGHLIGHT THE STANDARD OF CARE.

SO THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES ANY VACANT STRUCTURE TO MEET THE MINIMUM STANDARD OF CARE.

ESSENTIALLY, THAT'S LOOKING AT THE BUILDING ENVELOPE IS, UH, OUR SURFACES PAINTED ARE WINDOWS AND DOORS IN PLACE.

UM, THEY CANNOT HAVE BOARDED UP DOORS AND WINDOWS, UH, ARE ALL OF THE COMPONENTS OF THE STRUCTURE.

LET'S TAKE SINGLE FAMILY FASCIA BOARDS, UM, UM, ANY BRACKETS, HANDRAILS, COLUMNS, ALL OF THAT NEEDS TO BE IN GOOD REPAIR AND NEEDS TO BE PAINTED.

UM, IN TERMS OF THE STRUCTURAL COMPONENTS, I I'LL MENTION THAT THE VACANT BUILDING STANDARD OF CARE I SOMETIMES FEEL FITS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE AND THE DP CODE.

DANGEROUS PREMISE IS REALLY LOOKING AT STRUCTURAL SYSTEMS OF A BUILDING, AND WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT THE ENVELOPE, THE BUILDING ENVELOPE.

SO I FEEL LIKE THESE WORK HAND IN HAND.

UM, BUT I ALWAYS WANNA HIGHLIGHT THE STANDARD OF CARE BECAUSE IF YOU ARE A SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURE AND YOU MEET THE MINIMUM STANDARD OF CARE, YOU'RE EXEMPT.

YOU DON'T GET NOTICES FROM US.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE INSPECTED ANNUALLY.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY A REGISTRATION FEE.

UM, AND THAT IS THE BEST CASE SCENARIO.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, WE SAY THIS A LOT, BUT FOR SOME REASON PROPERTY OWNERS DON'T HEAR THAT.

THEY JUST FEEL LIKE WE ARE TARGETING THEM.

WE ARE, WE'RE ENFORCING SOMETHING ON THEM, WHICH WE ARE.

BUT IF YOU CAN HELP US SPREAD THE WORD, IF YOU'RE SINGLE FAMILY VACANT AND YOU MEET THE MINIMUM STANDARD OF CARE, YOU'RE EXEMPT FROM THE PROGRAM.

IF YOU ARE NOT SINGLE FAMILY OF SHOWN AND YOU MEET THE STANDARD, THE MINIMUM STANDARD OF CARE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY A REGISTRATION FEE.

YOU DO HAVE TO REGISTER ANNUALLY.

WE DO HAVE TO INSPECT THE PROPERTY, BUT YOU ARE EXEMPT FROM THE FEES.

SO I ALSO THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE.

SO WHAT DO WE CONSIDER SUCCESS, UM, WITHIN OUR PROGRAM IS JUST WHAT I SAID A MOMENT AGO, IS WE WANT THESE STRUCTURES TO BE MAINTAINED.

UM, WE'D RATHER THEY BE PUT BACK INTO PRODUCTIVE USE, WHETHER THAT'S GETTING A TENANT OR POTENTIALLY SELLING THE PROPERTY TO SOMEONE WHO MAY HAVE ANOTHER PLAN.

UM, AND THIS WAS ALWAYS THE GOAL, EVEN FROM THE DAIS WHEN THE PROGRAM WAS MADE, PERMANENT CITY COUNCIL EXPRESSED THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT HERE TO COLLECT FEES.

UM, OUR DEPARTMENT IS IN THE GENERAL FUND.

WE ARE NOT AN ENTERPRISE FUND.

SO THE AMOUNT OF FEES THAT WE COLLECT DON'T NECESSARILY, UH, CORRESPOND TO OUR STAFFING RESOURCES.

SO WE WOULD RATHER PROPERTY OWNERS KEEP THAT MONEY AND PUT IT BACK INTO THEIR PROPERTY.

THE ORDINANCE DOES ALLOW FOR FIVE SCENARIOS WHERE A PROPERTY OWNER CAN GET A FEE WAIVER.

UM, AGAIN, THIS IS WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT PROPERTY OWNERS REACH OUT TO US AND FIND OUT WHAT THEIR OPTIONS ARE.

SINCE THE LIFE OF THE PROGRAM, WE'VE HAD OVER 1200 SUCCESSES.

THAT MEANS PROPERTIES THAT HAVE EITHER BEEN REPAIRED, OCCUPIED, OR HAVE A NEW OWNER.

I WILL SAY THERE HAVE BEEN, UM, THERE HAVE BEEN A FEW CASES THAT HAVE BEEN RESOLVED WHERE DEMOLITION HAS BEEN THE OUTCOME AND SOMETIMES THAT IS THE BEST OUTCOME FOR A STRUCTURE.

YOU ALL KNOW THAT WHEN YOU SEE A, UM, A PROPERTY OR A CASE IN FRONT OF YOU, UH, WE'VE PROBABLY TRIED EVERYTHING WE COULD AT OUR LEVEL, AND THAT'S HOW IT'S ENDED UP WITH YOU.

AND A FEW OF THEM HAVE MADE IT ONTO YOUR AGENDA.

UM, BUT AGAIN, WE HOPE TO, UH, WE HOPE TO, UM, GIVE PROPERTY OWNERS SOME ALTERNATIVES, RESOURCES BEFORE THEY ARRIVE AT THE CONCLUSION THAT DEMOLITION IS THEIR, UM, IS GOING TO BE THEIR, THEIR ACTION.

UM, MANY TIMES, ESPECIALLY FOR SINGLE FAMILY, LEGACY PROPERTY OWNERS, THESE ARE VALUABLE ASSETS FOR THEM.

IT'S OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO BUILD GENERATIONAL WEALTH IF THEY WOULD MAINTAIN THEM AND MAKE THEM AVAILABLE AS A RENTAL UNIT.

SO WE WANNA WORK WITH PROPERTY OWNERS AND, AND SEE WHAT THEIR CHALLENGES ARE AND SEE IF WE CAN HELP THAT BE AN OUTCOME FOR THEM.

SO THE EXPANSION OF THE PROGRAM THAT IS SLATED FOR 2024 CAME ABOUT FROM A COUNCIL, UM, A CITY COUNCIL REQUEST FROM, UH, COUNCILMAN COURAGE AND COUNCILWOMAN ROCHA GARCIA.

THE REQUEST IS THAT WE PROPOSE EXPANDING THE VACANT BUILDING JURISDICTION TO BE CITYWIDE AND ALSO THAT CITY DEPARTMENTS WORK TOGETHER TO DEVELOP SOME RESOURCES AND PROGRAMS TO SERVE VACANT STRUCTURES.

UH, CURRENTLY YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH, UM, OUR HOME, UM, HOME REPAIR, MINOR REPAIR AND OWNER OCCUPIED REHAB PROGRAMS. THERE AREN'T MANY PROGRAMS AVAILABLE FOR NON-OWNER OCCUPIED, WHICH IS SOMETIMES, UM, THE ISSUE THAT OWNERS ARE FACING

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WITH THESE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

THEY DON'T HAVE THE FINANCES TO MAKE REPAIRS.

UM, THEY WOULD LOVE TO AND THEY'D LOVE TO MAKE IT AVAILABLE AS A, AS A RENTAL PROPERTY.

UM, SO WE'RE GONNA EXPLORE, WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH OUR, UH, PARTNER DEPARTMENTS LIKE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOUSING SERVICES DEPARTMENT TO MAYBE COME UP WITH SOME SOLUTIONS FOR, FOR, UM, OWNER, UH, NON-OWNER OCCUPIED.

UH, ONE OF THOSE SOLUTIONS, UM, THAT'S BEING CONSIDERED NOW IS CALLED THE SMALL SCALE RENTAL REHAB PROGRAM THAT NHD IS CURRENTLY, UH, NHSD IS CURRENTLY WORKING ON.

UM, EVEN BEFORE THE CCR, OUR DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN WORKING WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE DEALING WITH THE ISSUES THAT ARE COMMON TO VACANT STRUCTURES.

SO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, SAPD DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, UM, AND DHS WHO, UH, OFFERS HOMELESS SERVICES.

WE KNOW THAT, UM, THE HOMELESS POPULATION, UH, HAS BEEN, UH, A FACTOR WITH OUR VACANT STRUCTURES.

SO WITH THE CCR, WE ARE WORKING THIS YEAR TO, UM, FORMALIZE A TASK FORCE OF, UH, CITY DEPARTMENT STAFF MEMBERS THAT ARE WORKING IN THE SAME SPACE AS VACANT STRUCTURES SO THAT WE CAN COMBINE OUR EFFORTS AND BETTER COLLABORATE ON ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS.

UM, AND ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CONSISTENT IN OUR COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THAT THEY'RE NOT CONFUSED AND, AND THAT THEY ARE NOT GETTING CONFLICTING, UM, DIRECTION FROM THE CITY.

SO WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING A LITTLE BIT MORE CLOSELY TOGETHER.

UM, OUR DEPARTMENTS ALREADY STARTED TO PUT TOGETHER WHAT WE CALL OWNER RESOURCE EVENTS, AND THAT'S BRINGING TOGETHER MEMBERS FROM THESE OTHER DEPARTMENTS IN THE SAME PLACE, INVITING PROPERTY OWNERS TO COME, UM, GET THE ASSISTANCE THAT THEY NEED.

IT MAY BE A CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUE, THEY'RE DEALING WITH MAYBE GRAFFITI ABATEMENT, UH, OR IT COULD BE A HOMELESS, UH, SITUATION.

SO WE BRING THESE CITY RESOURCES TOGETHER IN ONE PLACE AND WE INVITE OUR PROPERTY OWNERS TO COME OUT AND CHAT WITH US.

UM, WE ALSO HELP THEM THROUGH THE REGISTRATION PROCESS.

WE DO HAVE SOME PROPERTY OWNERS THAT, UM, UH, DON'T DO WELL WITH ONLINE APPLICATION FORMS AND MAKING PAYMENTS ONLINE.

SO WE INVITE THEM INTO THE OFFICE AND MY STAFF ACTUALLY WILL SIT DOWN WITH THEM AND HELP THEM COMPLETE THE REGISTRATION FORM ONLINE AND HELP PROCESS THEIR PAYMENT.

WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT, UM, UH, ZONING ASSESSMENTS.

AGAIN, THAT WAS A PART OF THE CCR REQUEST FROM COUNCIL.

MAKE SURE THAT THE, UM, THE ZONING USES OF THESE STRUCTURES ARE ALIGNED WITH WHAT THE CURRENT SCENARIOS ARE WITHIN THESE AREAS.

IT COULD BE OLD ZONING THAT MIGHT BE HOLDING THEM BACK.

AND THEN ALSO, AS I MENTIONED, THINKING ABOUT THOSE ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS THAT CONTRIBUTE TO, UM, UH, VIOLENT CRIMES.

SO WE DO WANNA PARTICIPATE IN THE PROBLEM ORIENTED PLACE-BASED STRATEGY, WHICH IS PART OF SAP'S CRIME REDUCTION PLAN.

WE'RE, WE'RE NEARING HOME HERE.

WE'RE ALMOST ALMOST DONE.

SO THE, UM, EXPANSION THAT I MENTIONED IS, UM, GOING TO BE BECOME EFFECTIVE ON JANUARY ONE.

UH, THIS WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL IN, UH, UH, SEPTEMBER OF THIS LAST YEAR, 2023 OR THIS YEAR, 2023, WHICH WAS JUST SIMPLY AN AMENDMENT TO CA TO CHAPTER 12, UM, EXPANDING THE GEOGRAPHIC AREA TO INCLUDE THE THOUSAND FOOT BUFFER AROUND SCHOOLS WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF SAN ANTONIO.

SO THAT CONCLUDES, UM, MY PRESENTATION.

I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, AND I DO THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION, SUNGA, DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? SUNGA, GO AHEAD.

YES.

UH, MAYBE YOU, UH, CAN EXPAND ON THIS.

LIKE I SAY, I MEAN, I'M, I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED.

OKAY.

ON CHAPTER 12, SECTION 12 ONE, COULD YOU EXPAND MORE ABOUT, WELL, I KNOW THE 20, 24TH, JANUARY THE FIRST ONE, CAN YOU EXPAND ABOUT AROUND THE MILITARY BASE, ET CETERA, AND, UH, GO.

YES.

AND, AND THE OTHER ONE IS WHEN IS THIS, UH, CONFERENCE OR WORKSHOPS PUT TOGETHER? YOU CAN GIVE ME A SCHEDULE OF IT.

OKAY.

AND, UH, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.

GO AHEAD.

OKAY.

SO I CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE PROGRAM AREA.

UM, AS I MENTIONED, UH, HISTORIC DISTRICTS, NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICTS, THE TOURS CORRIDORS, UM, AND THE BUFFER AROUND, UM, ACTIVE MILITARY BASES.

WHEN THE PROGRAM WAS FIRST DEVELOPED, UM, WE DID ENGAGE WITH, UH, MANY STAKEHOLDERS OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND THERE WAS A DESIRE TO IMPROVE SOME OF THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE, UH, GATES OF OUR MILITARY BASES.

I THINK ONE IN PARTICULAR WAS, UH, AROUND FORT SAM.

THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF VACANT SINGLE FAMILY AROUND THOSE ENTRANCE GATES AT WALTERS.

AND SO THAT, THAT'S WHERE THE IDEA CAME UP TO MAKE THOSE AREAS PART OF THE, UH, JURISDICTION FOR THE PROGRAM.

AND SO THAT MEANS THAT ANYBODY WITHIN THESE BOUNDARIES, IF THEY HAVE A VACANT STRUCTURE, THEY MUST, UM, IF IT IS

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NOT SINGLE FAMILY, THEY MUST REGISTER IT WITH THE CITY.

AND THEY MUST MAINTAIN A STANDARD OF CODE, I'M SORRY, STANDARD OF CARE.

THEY WILL BE, UH, INSPECTED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS IF IT IS SINGLE FAMILY.

ALSO, AS LONG AS THEY MEET THE STANDARD OF CARE, THEY ARE EXEMPT.

IF THEY DO NOT MEET THE STANDARD OF CARE, THEY DO HAVE TO REGISTER WITH US.

REGISTRATION DOES INCLUDE A TIMELINE AND A PLAN OF ACTION FOR MAKING IMPROVEMENTS TO THE STRUCTURE.

IT ALSO INCLUDES A, UM, SIGNED AND NOTARIZED NO TRESPASSING AFFIDAVIT THAT GETS FILED WITH SAPD THAT ALLOWS OUR FIRST RESPONDERS TO TAKE ACTION IMMEDIATELY.

UM, SO WE DO PUT IN PLACE AS PART OF REGISTRATION, A FEW, UH, ITEMS TO GET THE, THE PROPERTY OWNER ON TRACK TO IMPROVING THE CONDITION AND ALLOWING US TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND WHEN THERE ARE ISSUES.

AND IF I CAN JUST ALSO MENTION THE, UH, OWNER RESOURCES EVENTS YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT, WE DO 'EM ON A QUARTERLY BASIS AND I'D BE HAPPY TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH DSD SO THEY CAN SHARE IT WITH THE BOARD.

YEAH, .

GREAT.

OKAY.

THE, THE OTHER QUESTION, I THINK THIS IS A VERY SERIOUS QUESTION, UH, ON THE FINES THAT ARE IMPOSED, ESPECIALLY ON THE ABSENTEE LANDLORD, UH, WHAT IS A FINE AND WHAT KEEPS 'EM, IF YOU GET IT, SAY FOR INSTANCE, A HUNDRED DOLLARS FINE, YOU HEARD THIS BEFORE.

OKAY.

UH, FROM THEM TO SAY, OKAY, I'LL PAY THE A HUNDRED DOLLARS.

BUY, WHAT ACTION DO YOU ALL TAKE? OR DO YOU SEND IT TO THE BSB? SO SORT OF, YOU KNOW, ELABORATE ON IT A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW SURE.

THAT'S A, THAT'S QUITE A CONCERN RIGHT NOW THAT THEY JUST PAY UP SUPPOSEDLY, YOU KNOW? YEAH.

THANK YOU.

NO, SO YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

UM, MR. ZUNIGA, SOMETIMES IT'S JUST THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT OWN VACANT STRUCTURES, THEY'LL PAY THE FIVE, IT'S A $500 FINE, THEY'LL PAY THE FINE, UM, NOT IMPROVE THE CONDITIONS, BUT THAT DOESN'T, UH, SO BASICALLY WE START ALL OVER WITH THEM.

UM, WE START ALL OVER, WHICH IS WHY I MENTIONED EARLIER, IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT WE SPUR ACTION FROM THE PROPERTY OWNERS BEFORE WE GET TO COURT.

'CAUSE ONCE THEY FIGURE OUT THAT THAT CLASSY MISDEMEANOR IS JUST GONNA BE A FINE, AND THEN THEY'LL START THE PROCESS OVER AGAIN, THEY'RE LESS INCLINED TO CHANGE, TO CHANGE THEIR MIND ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

SO THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WE DON'T HAVE CODE OFFICERS ON STAFF.

WE HAVE CASE MANAGERS, AND WE ARE AGGRESSIVE IN TRYING TO MOTIVATE THESE PROPERTY OWNERS TO DO SOMETHING BEFORE WE HAVE TO SEND THEM TO COURT.

WHAT, WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM FINE? UM, I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

UM, I'LL BE NO PROBLEM.

SURE.

WELL, THANK YOU.

AND, AND I, I'LL TELL YOU ALSO, UH, WHAT TENDS TO HAPPEN WITH SOME OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS IS ONCE WE GIVE THEM THAT FINAL VIOLATION NOTICE AND THEY KNOW THAT THEY'RE GONNA GET SUMMONED TO COURT, THEY CALL US.

UM, SO THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE OUR MOST SUCCESS RATE.

SO I WOULD SAY OUT OF THOSE 1200 SUCCESSES WE'VE HAD THROUGH THE LIFE, THE MAJORITY OF THOSE IS BECAUSE WE HAVE WORKED WITH A PROPERTY OWNER, NOT BECAUSE WE'VE TAKEN THEM TO COURT.

SO JUST FOR THE REASONS THAT YOU WERE SAYING.

YEAH.

WHAT'S THE AVERAGE TIME YOU, YOU HAVE WORKED WITH US, 1200 OR WHATEVER.

SO WE, WE STARTED COUNTING IN 2015 IS WHEN WE STARTED COUNTING THE SUCCESSES.

AND THOSE ARE THE SUCCESSES, MEANING THEY'VE BEEN REPAIRED, THEY'VE BEEN OCCUPIED, UM, OR THERE'S BEEN A CHANGE OF OWNERSHIP.

UH, WHAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN COUNTING IS CASES RESOLVED.

AND WHAT WE CONSIDER RESOLVED IS THAT THEY ARE IN COMPLIANCE.

SO THEY'VE MADE SOME REPAIRS, BUT IT'S STILL VACANT.

UM, THEY REGISTER EVERY YEAR.

THEY PAY THEIR REGISTRATION FEE, YOU KNOW, SO, SO THOSE, THOSE WE HAVE, IT'S FUNNY, WE, WE KNOW THAT WE GET ABOUT 120 NEW CASES EVERY, EVERY, EVERY YEAR.

AND WE RESOLVE ABOUT 120 EVERY YEAR.

SO OUR ACTIVE INVENTORY ALWAYS TENDS TO SAY ABOUT THE SAME VOLUME.

AND I HAVE THREE CASE MANAGERS FOR 818 PROPERTIES.

THAT, THAT'S A LOT OF, THAT'S A LOT OF PROPERTIES.

WE'LL GET SOME MORE.

I, YES, YES.

I WANT MORE.

MAYBE WITH THE EXPANSION I MENTIONED THAT COUNSEL DOES DESIRE THIS PROGRAM TO BECOME CITYWIDE.

UH, SO WE DO RECOMMEND A PHASED EXPANSION, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE STARTING WITH THE BUFFER ZONE.

UH, AND WE DID, UH, GET ONE NEW EMPLOYEE WITH THAT EXPANSION.

SO WITH EACH PHASE, WE'LL ALWAYS, UH, PROPOSE A STAFFING COMPLIMENT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN HANDLE THE VOLUME.

WELL, I WANT TO THANK YOU, UH, BSB FOR LETTING YOU COME IN AND EXPLAIN THAT.

THANK YOU.

WELL, TO US, I WOULD SAY WHAT, TO ME, I'M IGNORANT OF, OF A FACT ON THIS.

SO I WAS TILL NOW.

THANK YOU.

ANYTIME.

I'LL COME BACK ANYTIME.

YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO HEAR MORE, HAVE A QUESTION.

KAYLA HAS A QUESTION.

UM, SO I, OUT OF THE, THE PROPERTIES THAT YOU HAVE ACTIVE CASES, UM, HOW OFTEN IS THE OWNERSHIP IN SOME SORT OF DISPUTE? LIKE VERY ? YEAH, VERY OFTEN.

UM, SO AS

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I MENTIONED, UH, THE MAJORITY OF THE CASES ARE SINGLE FAMILY.

THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF THOSE WHERE THERE HEIRS PROPERTIES.

AND THE TITLE IS NOT CLEAR.

UM, WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE IN SOME CASES WHERE THERE IS A RESPONSIBLE PARTY THAT'S BEEN CUTTING THE GRASS, PAYING THE TAXES.

THAT'S PART OF THE RESEARCH THAT WE DO, IS, ARE THE TAXES UP TO DATE? IF SO, MAYBE WE CAN FIND THE PERSON WHO'S BEEN PAYING AND ASK THEM TO FIX IT ENOUGH SO IT COULD BE EXEMPT.

'CAUSE REMEMBER, SINGLE FAMILY CAN BE EXEMPT, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT.

SO THERE ARE A LOT WHERE THE, UM, THE TITLE IS NOT CLEAR.

SO PART OF OUR ENGAGEMENT EFFORTS IS, UM, AT THE OWNER RESOURCE EVENTS, WE MAKE SURE THAT WE, UM, CONNECT THEM WITH, THERE ARE SOME NONPROFITS THAT PROVIDE SOME LEGAL AID, AND NHSD ALSO HAS SOME PROGRAMS. UM, BUT WE ALSO PUT TOGETHER A WEBINAR SERIES DURING COID THAT IS FOCUSED ON HES PROPERTIES.

AND WE TALK A LOT ABOUT THE TRANSFER UPON DEATH DEEDS.

SO WE TRY TO WORK WITH CURRENT PROPERTY OWNERS AND HAVE THEM THINK ABOUT WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WHEN I'M GONE? HOW CAN I ENSURE FAST AND CLEAR TRANSFER OF MY PROPERTY TO A RESPONSIBLE OWNER WHEN MY TIME COMES? SO KNOWING WHAT THE TREND IS OF HEIRS PROPERTIES, WE'RE TRYING OUR BEST TO GET AHEAD OF THAT AND GET TO PROPERTY OWNERS WHO MAY NOT OWN A VACANT PROPERTY.

THEY MAY JUST LIVE IN ONE OF OUR OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT TRY TO GET WITH THEM AND CONNECT THEM WITH SOME TOOLS THAT THEY CAN PUT IN PLACE NOW SO WE CAN HAVE FEWER AND FEWER OF THOSE CASES.

OKAY.

AND ONE MORE, UM, AND IN ONE OF THE SLIDES, THERE WAS A CIRCLE AND IT SHOWED LIKE ALL THE, THE PEOPLE INVOLVED, UH, OR THE DEPARTMENTS INVOLVED.

YES.

IT, IT'S, IT'S A SUGGESTION.

MM-HMM.

.

BUT THERE ARE ALMOST ALL THE, THE CITY, THERE ARE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS THAT ARE REGISTERED WITH NHSD.

AND I THINK THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION SHOULD DEFINITELY BE PART OF THIS, THIS, UM, PLAN HERE, BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS OR THE HOMEOWNER, WHATEVER IS REGISTERED FOR THAT, THAT AREA ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE SEEN EVERY DAY.

AND THEY'RE MORE INVOLVED AND MORE INFORMATION.

AND I MEAN, IT, IT IS THEIR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION BECAUSE I, I FAILED TO MENTION THAT PART OF THE WORK OF THE CASE MANAGERS.

SO WE DIVIDE THE PROGRAM AREA IN ZONES.

AND SO THE PROGRAM, THE GEOGRAPHIC AREAS PER CASE MANAGER, IT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO IDENTIFY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, GET CONTACT INFORMATION, INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, MAKE THEMSELVES AVAILABLE FOR THOSE EVENING NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETINGS.

UM, WE ALSO HAVE A CLEAR LINE OF COMMUNICATION.

SO IF THERE'S, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THOSE FEW PROPERTIES THAT HAVE BEEN A NUISANCE FOR A LONG TIME AND NEIGHBORHOODS JUST SICK OF IT.

SO WE ACTUALLY CREATED A LIST WHERE, UM, WE'RE PUTTING SOME ADDITIONAL RESOURCES TO THOSE.

AND THAT LIST IS NOW GOING TO BE AVAILABLE ONLINE.

SO ANYONE CAN VIEW THE LIST.

WE'RE CALLING IT OHP ENFORCEMENT ACTION.

AND THAT WAY IF THERE'S A PROPERTY THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE WHERE IT IS IN OUR PROCESS.

UM, AND THOSE, WE, UM, I HAVE ONE PROPERTY OWNER, WE CALL HIM EVERY WEDNESDAY.

WE CALL HIM EVERY WEDNESDAY TO SEE ARE YOU FOLLOWING THROUGH WITH YOUR PLAN OF ACTION? IF NOT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S NEXT? WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO? SO, UM, YES, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING UP NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS BECAUSE THEY'RE AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN THIS.

THEY HAVE A, A, A A AND THERE ARE EYES ON THE GROUND.

I HAVE THREE CASE MANAGERS FOR 800 PROPERTIES.

SO A LOT OF TIMES THEY CAN PROVIDE SOME CURRENT OBSERVATIONS, AND WE ALSO INVITE THEM TO PROVIDE TESTIMONY WHEN WE DO TAKE A CASE TO COURT.

UM, SO THAT IS JUST ANOTHER WAY THAT WE ENGAGE WITH COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MS. BROWN.

OH, WELL, I GUESS SOME OF MY QUESTIONS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ANSWERED.

I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE 800 CASES AND HOW MANY CASEWORKERS DO YOU HAVE, WHICH SOUNDS RIDICULOUS.

THREE CASE MANAGERS.

YES, MA'AM.

SO YOU'LL NEVER GET AHEAD OF THE GAME.

YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL, YOU'LL ALWAYS BE BEHIND THE GATE BECAUSE THREE CASE MANAGERS IS JUST NOT ENOUGH TO HANDLE 800 CASES.

OKAY.

THE NEXT THING WAS THE, UM, DO YOU, DO YOU HELP THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE PROGRAM TO, UM, TO LEARN TO PROCESS, UM, THE, UM, THE TITLES, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN THE OWNERS DIE? MM-HMM.

, WE GET A LOT OF CASES LIKE THAT OURSELVES.

YEAH.

WHEN THE OWNERS DIE AND THE CHILDREN COME UP HERE TO WANNA FIX THE PROPERTY OR REPAIR IT OR WHATEVER, THEY'RE NOT THE OWNERS, SO WE CAN'T REALLY HELP THEM.

YEAH.

AND, UH, I THINK THAT WOULD HELP TO HAVE A, A LAWYER, UM, WHO WILL HELP YOU DO PRO BONO WORK AND TEACH THESE PEOPLE HOW TO, UM, YOU KNOW, PROCESS THE

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PAPERWORK IN ORDER TO GET THE PROPERTY IN THEIR NAME.

YOU KNOW, AND THAT CAN BE REALLY EXPENSIVE SOMETIMES, BUT THERE ARE THINGS THAT LAWYERS CAN DO TO HELP THE PEOPLE OUT.

LIKE A, A MONUMENT OF TITLE MM-HMM.

WHEN YOU CHANGE THE TITLE FROM A DECEASED PERSON TO A, UM, AN OWNER, UH, TO A NEW OWNER, WHICH IS NOT EXPENSIVE AT ALL.

AND, UM, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST A SUGGESTION ON MY PART BECAUSE WE SEE IT A LOT AND WE CAN'T HELP THEM.

SO, UH, IF YOUR PROGRAM CAN, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE A ADDED BONUS.

YOU, YOU ARE SO RIGHT.

YOU'RE SO RIGHT, MS. BROWN.

AND, AND WE, UH, WE DO CONNECT FOLKS, UH, WITH SOME INFORMATION FOLKS WHO DO KNOW HOW TO NAVIGATE THROUGH THAT LEGAL PROCESS.

UM, AND WE'VE, WE'VE MADE A FEW PUT TOGETHER SOME CONCEPTS ON HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PARTNER WITH, UM, GROUPS LIKE MAYBE ST.

MARY'S LAW, UM, OR OTHER, UM, LEGAL AID GROUPS OUT THERE THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME SERVICES.

AND THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF THAT HAPPENING.

THE NEED IS GREAT.

UM, AND AS YOU, AS YOU SAID, IT CAN BE COSTLY.

SO WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE THIS YEAR, ESPECIALLY WITH THE EXPANSION AND THE POTENTIAL OF MORE CASES TO SEE IF WE CAN IDENTIFY SOME PARTNERS TO REALLY HELP US PROVIDE TRUE LEGAL AID SERVICES TO SOME OF OUR PROPERTY OWNERS SO WE CAN RESOLVE THOSE CASES.

UM, AND I'D LIKE TO MENTION, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE SO RIGHT, THREE CASE MANAGERS OVER 800 IN OUR INVENTORY.

WE, UM, AS WE MANAGE THE PROGRAM, KEEPING IN MIND WHAT OUR RESOURCES ARE AND HOW LIMITED THEY ARE, WE'VE DEVELOPED AN INTERNAL TIER SYSTEM WHERE WE ACTUALLY RATE THE CASES THAT ARE IN OUR INVENTORY.

AND JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, IF I HAVE A, IF I HAVE A PROPERTY THAT TAXES ARE PAID, THE GRASS GETS CUT, AND, UH, WE HAVE A PHONE NUMBER FOR A PROPERTY OWNER THAT RAISES THE, THE, UM, THE RATING FOR THAT PROPERTY, WHICH MEANS THE CASE MANAGER CAN APPLY MORE RESOURCES TOWARDS THAT ONE.

'CAUSE WE'RE MORE LIKELY TO RESOLVE THAT IF WE HAVE SOMEBODY WE CAN, WE CAN REACH OUT TO MORE.

WE ARE MORE LIKELY TO GET SOME ACTION.

THE ONES THAT ARE HEIRS PROPERTIES, UM, THAT, UM, WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONTACT INFORMATION SOMETIMES ON THOSE PROPERTIES.

THE ONLY MAILING ADDRESS WE HAVE IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

SO THOSE RANK A LITTLE BIT LOWER.

AND SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT WE HAVE A SCHEDULE FOR THAT CASE MANAGER EVERY 90 DAYS TO CHECK RECORDS, GET INTO LEXINEXIS, SEE IF WE CAN FIND SOME CONTACT INFORMATION, CHECK THE COUNTY COURT, UH, CLERK RECORDS TO SEE IF MAYBE THERE'S BEEN SOME RESOLUTION AND A CHANGE OF OWNERSHIP.

WE DON'T FORGET ABOUT THEM, BUT WE DO PUT THEM ON A DIFFERENT SCHEDULE FOR WHAT WE CALL TOUCHING A DIFFERENT SCHEDULE FOR TOUCHING ON THAT CASE TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE HELP OUR CASE MANAGERS PRIORITIZE AND GET A MANAGEABLE SCHEDULE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE ENGAGING WITH EVERY ONE OF THE CASES ON THEIR CASELOAD.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'VE GOTTA TELL YOU, YOUR PROGRAM IS FANTASTIC BECAUSE EVERY VACANT BUILDING IS A MAGNET FOR SOMETHING BAD.

SO IF YOU CAN KEEP, UH, VACANT BUILDING OCCUPIED, OR AT LEAST IN GOOD STANDARDS, IT ELIMINATES THAT MAGNET ACTIVITY.

AND IT ALSO ELIMINATES SOME OF THE WORK THAT WE HAVE TO DO.

'CAUSE IT KEEPS A PROGRAM FROM COMING TO THE BOARD BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM, EXCITING PROGRAM, AND LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING IT EXPANDED PERSONALLY, BECAUSE IT WILL BE VERY GOOD TO GO BEYOND WHAT YOU'VE GOT RIGHT NOW.

UH, YOU'LL HAVE TO HAVE MORE STAFF AND MORE BUILDINGS TO GO ALONG WITH THAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT FEEDBACK.

ONE MORE THING BEFORE YOU LEAVE, KATHY.

YES, MA'AM.

YOU CAN'T GET YOUR CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE TO, TO CONTRIBUTE FINANCIALLY TO THIS PROGRAM.

I MEAN, FOR THE, THEIR OWN DISTRICTS OR CAN YOU? WE, WE HAVE A LOT OF SUPPORT FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND I THINK AS WE KEEP WORKING AND PRESENTING SOME OF THE IMPACT AND THE SUCCESSES THAT, UH, WE'LL BE ABLE TO REQUEST MORE RESOURCES AS WE GO ON.

THIS IS GONNA BE A PARAMOUNT YEAR FOR US BECAUSE WE ARE INTRODUCING MORE INITIATIVES.

WE ARE INCREASING OUR FOOTPRINT, RIGHT? SO OUR, OUR PROGRAM AREAS GROWING, OUR CASELOAD WILL GROW.

SO THOSE ARE ALL GONNA BE IMPORTANT, UH, DATA POINTS TO, UH, REPORT TO COUNCIL SO WE CAN GET SOME ADDITIONAL NO, NO, NO.

I'M TALKING ABOUT WILL THEY WRITE YOU A CHECK FOR THEIR DISTRICT? I'M TALKING FINANCIAL HELP.

I DON'T WANNA HEAR ANY MORE TALK FROM CITY COUNCIL.

YOU WANT THE, YOU WANT THE BUDGET TO BE THERE.

I WANT THE BUDGET TO BE THERE AND THEY SHOULD, THEY SHOULD INVEST IN IT AND IN THE PROGRAM TO TRY TO GET THEIR DISTRICTS, YOU KNOW, IN SOME KIND OF SHAPE.

BECAUSE DISTRICT ONE THROUGH FIVE ARE THE OLDEST HOUSING STOCK IN THE, IN THE CITY, AND THEY SHOULD HAVE SOME KIND OF RESPONSIBILITY, RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT.

AND BY DONATING SOME FUNDS, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A BILLION DOLLARS, BUT THEY COULD DONATE SOME FUNDS TO YOUR PROGRAM TO MAKE IT RUN A LITTLE SMOOTHER.

YOU COULD GET MORE HELP AND YOU CAN GET CONTRACTORS OR WHOEVER YOU ALL GET TO PREPARE THESE HOUSES.

THANK YOU SO MUCH MS. BROWN.

I KNOW I'M PREACHING TO THE CHOIR, BUT CONSERVATION OF OUR BUILDING STOCK, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT HISTORIC PRESERVATION,

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I'M TALKING ABOUT CONSERVATION OF OUR EXISTING BUILDING STOCK IS A BENEFIT ACROSS SO MANY BUCKETS.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, FEWER CITY RESOURCES, FEWER SAPD, FIRE DEPARTMENT, CODE ENFORCEMENT CALLS, UM, BETTER PROPERTY VALUES, UM, BETTER ENVIRONMENT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS, WHICH AFFECTS PUBLIC HEALTH BECAUSE PEOPLE DO HAVE A PHYSICAL REACTION WHEN WALKING BY A BOARDED UP BUILDING OR A VACANT LOT.

THERE'S BEEN STUDIES THAT SHOW THAT.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

AND BEFORE I WALK AWAY, I HAVE TO SAY, I HAVE TO SAY HUGE THANK YOU TO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND THEIR TEAM THAT SUPPORTS YOU IN THIS PROCESS.

UM, WE WORK SO CLOSELY TOGETHER AND FOR THAT REASON, I THINK THERE ARE FEWER OF OUR TYPES OF CASES THAT COME TO YOU.

I KNOW WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO AFFECT POSITIVE CHANGE AND THAT'S ALL THROUGH THE COLLABORATION OF THE DSD TEAM WITH OHP.

SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I THANK THEM, UH, IN PUBLIC.

THEY ARE GOOD PEOPLE, AREN'T THEY? THANK YOU SO MUCH AGAIN, AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO EVERYONE.

AND DO YOU ALSO, THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT NEED TO BE READ IN THE MINUTES AT THIS TIME? THANK YOU.

UH, IF WE COULD, WE'D HAVE A STAFF REPORT ON STRUCTURES.

GOOD MORNING BOARD MEMBERS.

GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS JENNY RAMIREZ, CODE ENFORCEMENT MANAGER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS TO READ INTO THE RECORD AS A, AS WELL AS A COUPLE OF ITEMS TO PULL IF I MAY, IF I MAY PROCEED PLEASE.

THANK YOU, SIR.

UH, WE WILL GO THROUGH THE ITEMS WE'LL BE PULLING TODAY.

WE'RE GONNA BE A PULLING AGENDA.

ITEM NUMBER EIGHT WILL BE REMOVED.

50 51 MARY DIANE IN COUNCIL DISTRICT, TWO OWNER'S IN THE PROCESS OF SELLING AND, UH, FINALIZING THE SALE OF THAT PROPERTY.

UM, IT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE HAPPENED LAST WEEK.

THERE WAS A HITCH AND IT IS IN PROCESS.

THIS WEEK.

WE WILL BE WORKING WITH A NEW OWNER, GETTING NEW NOTICES MAILED AND AND WHATNOT.

SO WE DIDN'T WANT THERE TO BE ANY PROBLEM, PROBLEMS WITH NOTIFICATIONS, SO WE'LL BE RESCHEDULING THAT IF NEEDED, UH, ONCE WE HAVE THAT NEW OWNER ON BOARD AND COMPLETED.

NEXT ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9 47 25 RIMAN ROAD AND COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO OWNER COMPLIED WITH THAT.

UM, DID GO THROUGH A PARTIAL DEMOLITION AND, UH, TOOK CARE OF WHAT HE NEEDED TO DO, AS WELL AS, UH, WORKING THROUGH THE ENGINEER'S REPORTS AND, UH, MAKING SURE EVERYTHING IS, UH, UP TO CODE AND IN COMPLIANCE.

SO WE HAVE PULLED THAT ONE AS WELL.

UH, WE WILL BE READING A COUPLE OF EMERGENCY DEMOLITIONS INTO THE RECORD.

UH, FIRST ONE, UH, STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 10 42 WEST SUMMIT IN COUNCIL.

DISTRICT ONE, UH, WAS DEMOLISHED ON EL UH, NOVEMBER 21ST, 2023, DUE TO A FIRE THAT DID OCCUR ON NOVEMBER 14TH, 2023.

UM, PURSUANT TO CHAPTER SIX DASH 1 75, NO FURTHER, NO FURTHER ACTION IS NEEDED BY THE BOARD AT THIS TIME.

AND WE DO HAVE BEFORE AND AFTER PHOTOS.

NEXT ONE IS STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 5 81 WEST BROADVIEW DRIVE IN COUNCIL.

DISTRICT SEVEN WAS DEMOLISHED ON DECEMBER THE FIFTH OF 2023 DUE TO A FIRE THAT OCCURRED ON, UH, NOVEMBER 27TH, 2023.

UH, PURSUANT TO CHAPTER SIX DASH 1 75, NO FURTHER ACTION IS NEEDED BY THE BOARD AT THIS TIME, AND THERE ARE BEFORE AND AFTER PHOTOS OF THAT STRUCTURE AS WELL.

THAT DOES COMPLETE MY REPORTS, UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD, MR. BOARD, HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD.

I JUST WANNA, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH BOTH OF THESE PROPERTIES WE SEE THAT THEY DID CLEAR THE, UH, THE STRUCTURE, BUT THEY'VE REALLY LEFT QUITE A MESS BEHIND.

IS THERE ANYTHING TO DO HERE TO HELP CLEAN IT UP A BIT BETTER? I MEAN, I'M LOOKING AT, I'M, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF HOW SOMEONE'S GONNA IN THERE AND ACTUALLY MOW THAT, THAT NO, WE, THAT'S LOT WHEN YOU'RE, WE, WE DEFINITELY FOLLOW UP.

SO THE CONTRACTS THAT WE DEAL WITH, WITH, WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT, WELL, REALLY I BELIEVE THREE DIFFERENT CONTRACTS THAT WE DEAL WITH AND WE HAVE CONTRACTORS FOR.

UM, THE DEMOLITION CONTRACT IS EXACTLY THAT.

THE DEMOLITION, THE CLEANUP OF THE DEBRIS, THE DEBRIS WILL STILL GET CLEANED UP, BUT WE, WE, WE CLOSE THE DATE OF THE DEMOLITION WHEN THE STRUCTURE'S DOWN, BUT THE CLEANUP DOES STILL ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO OCCUR.

NOW, IF THERE'S, UH, GRASS AND WEEDS THAT NEED TO BE CUT, WE'LL TYPICALLY BRING ANOTHER CONTRACTOR IN TO THE, THE CUTTING IN THE, IN THE, THE, UH, THE, THE CLIPPING FOR THAT.

BUT ANY TYPE OF THE DEBRIS THAT IS PUT, UM, THAT IS PUT DOWN ON THE GROUND, THAT WILL STILL BE REMOVED, THAT DOES NOT GET, UM, WE DON'T PAY THE CONTRACTOR UNTIL THE DEBRIS IS ALL REMOVED FROM THE PROPERTY.

SO ALL THE RUBBLE THAT WE SEE HERE, YES.

ALL BE GONE.

CORRECT.

THE, THE SAFETY, WHAT WE CONSIDER THE SAFETY HAZARD, THE STRUCTURE BEING DOWN IS THE DATE WE PUT ON THE RECORD THAT THE STRUCTURE HAS COME DOWN NOW FOR THE CONTRACT TO BE FINALIZED AND FOR ANYBODY TO BE PAID, WE, WE

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MAKE SURE THAT DEBRIS HAS BEEN MOVED.

OKAY.

WHAT ABOUT THE CONCRETE STEPS? WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF, UM, PROPERTIES WHERE CONTRACTORS WILL COME IN AND, UH, CLEAN THE PROPERTY, BUT THE CONCRETE STEPS ARE STILL THERE OR THE, SOME OF THE FOUNDATION IS STILL THERE.

TYPICALLY THAT'S ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

TYPICALLY, WE WILL NOT REMOVE IT IF THERE'S ANY TYPE OF HAZARD TO IT.

IF THERE'S ANY TYPE OF, UM, STRUCTURAL HAZARD THAT A TRIPPING HAZARD, ANY TYPE OF, UM, WHAT WE CALL A, UM, SOMETHING THAT MAY ATTRACT AN ATTRACTIVE NUISANCE HAZARD, WE WILL HAVE THAT REMOVED AS WELL.

BUT TYPICALLY, IF IT'S NOT GONNA CREATE A SAFETY HAZARD, WE WILL LEAVE THAT BEHIND.

SO IT IS ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

KAYLA HAVE IT QUESTION.

I JUST WANT TO, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, UH, PICTURE NUMBER 27 OR, OR NOT IT'S 33.

I MEAN, IF, IF YOU CAN, IF YOU CAN LOOK AT, UM, THAT LOOKS LIKE, WELL, IT, I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS STEPS OR NOT, BUT IF YOU GO LOOK TOWARDS THE BACK, THERE'S LIKE A WHOLE SECTION OF WALL AND IT, I DON'T KNOW, IS THAT A STOVE OR A GRILL OR IT'S BARBECUE PIT? IT LOOKS LIKE A BARBECUE PIT, BUT WE'LL DOUBLE CHECK IT.

WE'LL ABSOLUTELY DOUBLE CHECK IT.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WOULD'VE RISEN.

IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LEFT CORNER, KIND OF THAT LEFT SIDE THAT'S GOT A LITTLE BIT OF STRUCTURE TO IT.

YEAH.

YEAH, IT LOOKS LIKE AN OUTDOOR BARBECUE, UM, LIKE A BUILT-IN KIND OF A DEAL.

BUT I WILL HAVE THAT DOUBLE CHECK.

NO PROBLEM.

BUT IF YOU LOOK NEXT TO IT, THERE'S LIKE A ONE FOOT STONE WALL ALL THE WAY DOWN.

YEAH.

SO WHAT WE BELIEVE THAT, I BELIEVE THAT TO BE, I DON'T HAVE CONFIRMATION, BUT JUST BY LOOKING, IT LOOKS TO BE A FOUNDATION, LIKE A, A, UM, A PATIO SLAB.

SO IF IT WAS IN, IN SOLID CONDITION, WE PROBABLY WOULD NOT HAVE REMOVED IT, BUT WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT IT, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT CREATING ANY TYPE OF HAZARD BECAUSE THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN DEFINITELY FOLLOW UP ON.

THE PRIMARY CONTRACT THAT WE DEAL WITH, WITH OUR DEMOLITION CONTRACTORS TO DEAL WITH THE IMMEDIATE HAZARD OF THE STRUCTURE ITSELF AND TO REMOVE THAT HAZARD SO IT DOESN'T FALL ANYWHERE, FALL ON ANYONE OR ANYBODY CREATES A TRIPPING HAZARD.

SO, WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT NOW THAT IT IS NOW GONNA BE BASICALLY CONSIDERED A VACANT LOT, SO WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

ABSOLUTELY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.

APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

OUR FIRST, UH, CASE IS GOING TO BE 43 43 EAST SOUTH CROSS BOULEVARD.

GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING BOARD FOR THE RECORD.

MY NAME IS SIR JOE QUINTANILLA, DANGEROUS PREMISES OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

THE STRUCTURE BEING PRESENTED TODAY IS LOCATED AT 43 43 EAST SOUTH CROSS BOULEVARD WITH THE RECOMMENDATION FOR REPAIR IN ACCORDANCE WITH CITY CODE ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER SIX.

THIS CASE IS THE FIRST TIME BEING HEARD BEFORE THE BOARD.

THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION IS NCB 1 0 8 3 7, LOT EE 99.4 FEET OF EIGHT, LOCATED IN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT THREE.

THE OWNER ON RECORD IS RENOSO GUILLERMO TORRES WITH THE MAILING ADDRESS OF 22 3 19 ROWAN FOREST.

ALL NOTICES OF HEARING WERE PROPERLY ISSUED AS REQUIRED.

THE OWNER ON RECORD IS NOT PRESENT TO SIGN.

I'M SORRY, THE OWNER ON RECORD IS NOT PRESENT TODAY.

DOES THE BOARD WISH TO CONTINUE? YES, PLEASE.

A CONFERENCE WAS SCHEDULED FOR THE JUNE 30TH, 2023.

NO OWNER OR REPRESENTATIVE SHOWED UP.

THE OPIC OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION HAS CONFIRMED ON MAY 30TH, 2023.

THE PROPERTY IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR HISTORIC DESIGNATION.

THE FIRST INSPECTION REGARDING 43 43 EAST SOUTH CROSS BOULEVARD WAS CONDUCTED ON MAY 18TH, 2023.

ORIGINAL NOTICE WAS MAILED ON JUNE 1ST, 2023, AND THE CERTIFIED RECEIPT WAS RETURNED UNCLAIMED ON JULY 1ST, 2023 ON NOVEMBER 3RD, 2023.

THE NOTICE FOR THE BSB HEARING WAS POSTED AT 43 43 EAST SOUTH CROSS BOULEVARD ON NOVEMBER 3RD, 2023.

THE NOTICE FOR THE BSB HEARING WAS MAILED TO OWNER AND THE CERTIFIED RECEIPT WAS RETURNED ON NOVEMBER 9TH, 2023.

ON NOVEMBER 9TH, 2023, A WARRANT WAS EXECUTED TO CONDUCT A FULL EXTERIOR AND INTERIOR INSPECTION ON DECEMBER 6TH, 2023.

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OUR WARRANT WAS EXECUTED TO GET UPDATED EXTERIOR AND INTERIOR PHOTOS FOR THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD.

NO SCOPE OF WORK OR FINANCIAL PROOF OR LETTER OF CREDIT OR ENGINEER'S REPORT HAS BEEN PROVIDED AS OF DECEMBER 13TH, 2023.

THERE ARE NO PERMITS ON FILE FOR 43 43 EAST SOUTH CROSS BOULEVARD.

THE PHOTOS THAT ARE BEING PROVIDED FOR TODAY'S PRESENTATION WERE TAKEN ON NOVEMBER 9TH, 2023 AND DECEMBER 6TH, 2023.

PICTURE PRESENTATION CONSISTS OF A DILAPIDATED AND NEGLECTED STRUCTURE, AND AT THIS TIME WE WILL REVIEW THE PHOTOS.

THIS FIRST PHOTO IS AT THE FRONT ELEVATION SHOWING A SINGLE STORY STRUCTURE BUILT IN 1955 WITH SLAB ON GREAT FOUNDATION AND CROSS GABLE ROOF.

THE STRUCTURE IS 2,243 SQUARE FEET AND HAS SEVEN ROOMS AND TWO RESTROOMS AT ONE TIME.

THE STRUCTURE WAS A DUPLEX.

HERE YOU CAN SEE, UH, WOOD SIDING, LACKING WEATHERPROOFING, WEATHERPROOFING AND BROKEN WINDOWS, ALONG WITH DISCOLORATION OF THE SHINGLES ON THE ROOF DUE TO LONG-TERM DETERIORATION.

THE NEXT PHOTO SHOWS A FRONT PORCH COVER MISSING A SUPPORT COLUMN.

ALSO, THE SHINGLE ROOF COVER IS DETERIORATED AND ROTTING DUE TO WATER DAMAGE WITH A LARGE HOLE.

THE NEXT PHOTO IS OF THE RIGHT ELEVATION, WHICH SHOWS MISSING SIDING, EXPOSING THE WOOD MEMBERS TO THE ELEMENTS.

AND THE FOLLOWING PHOTO, UH, IS THE LEFT SIDE OF THE REAR ELEVATION.

DUE TO THE SIZE OF THE STRUCTURE, I WASN'T ABLE TO GET A FULL PICTURE OF THE REAR ELEVATION.

AND ONCE AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE SIDING IS MISSING WITH THE STUDS AND WOOD MEMBERS EXPOSED.

AND JUST TO INFORM THE BOARD, THE DOOR TO THE LEFT OF THE, OF THE UNDER THE PATIO COVERS WHERE I MAKE MY ENTRY INTO THE STRUCTURE.

THIS NEXT PHOTO IS, IS ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE REAR ELEVATION, SHOWING MORE SIDING MISSING, AS WELL AS WOOD SIDING WITH NO WEATHERPROOFING AND DETERIORATED DOORFRAME.

YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE LOW HANGING TREE LIMBS, WHICH ARE DAMAGING THE, THE, THE WORN ROOF.

THE NEXT PHOTO IS OF THE LEFT ELEVATION, WHICH SH SHOWING WOOD SIDING ALONG THE BOTTOM MISSING, EXPOSING THE SOLE PLATE AND STUDS, WHICH ARE ROTTING AND DECAYING ALONG THE TOP, YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE FASCIA BOARDS DETERIORATING AND DETACHING.

THE NEXT PHOTO SHOWS A CLOSER LOOK AT THE SOLE PLATE AND STUDS ROTTING DUE TO THE PROLONGED EXPOSURE TO THE ELEMENTS HERE, WE CAN ALSO SEE ON THE NEXT PHOTO, UH, THE SECTION OF THE SIDING MISSING AND THE WOOD MEMBERS THAT ARE ALSO DECAYING.

THE NEXT PHOTO SHOWS THE ENTRY THAT I MADE AS STATED EARLIER, UH, THIS IS THE REAR DOOR AND BEFORE ENTERING, YOU CAN ALREADY SEE THERE'S A DEBRIS BLOCKING EGRESS IN CASE OF EMERGENCY.

THE FOLLOWING PHOTO SHOWS THE ROOM WHERE I MADE MY ENTRY.

YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A LARGE AMOUNT OF TRASH AND DEBRIS WITH SIGNS OF VAGRANT.

THE REAR WALL HAS BEEN BROKEN, HAS BROKEN SHEET ROCK, WHICH APPEARS TO BE DUE TO VANDALISM.

UH, THE NEXT PHOTO IS TAKEN TO THE RIGHT OF THE ROOM WHERE THERE'S A HALLWAY THAT EXISTS AND LEADS TO THE RESTROOM ON THE RIGHT, THIS IS A SMALL HALLWAY WHERE THE SLAB IS EXPOSED AND THE FLOOR COVERING IS MISSING.

YOU CAN ALSO SEE A LARGE CRACK RUNNING THROUGH THE FOUNDATION.

THE FOLLOWING PHOTOS IS OF THE RESTROOM.

ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE HALLWAY, THE RESTROOM IS IN DISAPPEAR WITH TRASH.

DEBRIS.

SHEET ROCK IS MISSING EXPOSING THE WOOD MEMBERS TO WATER DAMAGE.

THE TOILET ALSO HAS BEEN DISCONNECTED FROM THE SEWER LINES AND SMELLS OF FECES.

AND THE SMELL OF FECES WAS, WAS PREVALENT.

AS A REMINDER, THE PROPERTY DOES, IT DOES NOT HAVE ACTIVE WATER, BUT VAGRANTS STILL USE THE FACILITIES.

IF YOU TURN AROUND FROM THE RESTROOM AND FACE THE FRONT OF THE STRUCTURE, IT LEADS TO THE LIVING ROOM WHERE ONE OF THE FRONT DOORS IS LOCATED.

HERE YOU CAN SEE THE, UH, TRASH AND DEBRIS AND ONE OF THE BROKEN WINDOWS ALONG THE HOLE, ALONG WITH HOLES IN THE SHEET ROCK AND GRAFFITI ON THE WALLS TO THE REAR OF THE LIVING ROOM, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE SHEET ROCK FROM THE CEILING HAS COLLAPSED, EXPOSING THE RAFTERS, CEILING, JOISTS, AND WOOD MEMBERS.

THE NEXT PHOTO SHOWS THE FOLLOWING ROOMS LEADING INTO THE HOUSE WHERE YOU CAN SEE, UH, BROKEN SHEET ROCK, UH, EXPOSED STUDS, AND YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE STUDS ARE ALSO MISSING.

THE FOLLOWING PHOTO SHOWS, UH, ANOTHER ROOM FILLED WITH TRASH AND DEBRIS.

THERE'S HOLES IN THE SHEET ROCK ALONG WITH GRAFFITI AND BROKEN WINDOWS.

THE FOLLOWING PHOTO SHOWS THE NEXT TWO ROOMS WITH MORE TRASH AND DEBRIS BLOCKING ANY FORM OF EGRESS.

IT WAS, UH, DIFFICULT FOR US

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TO MAKE ENTRY TO THESE ROOMS DUE TO THE VOLUME OF DEBRIS.

YOU CAN ALSO SEE THERE ARE BROKEN WINDOWS AND SHEET ROCK AS WELL.

THE FOLLOWING PHOTO, YOU CAN SEE ONE OF THE WALLS IN THE LESS IN THE LAST ROOM WHERE LIGHT IS ENTERING FROM ENTERING THE STRUCTURE, THE EXTERIOR SIDING IS MISSING, EXPOSING THE INTERIOR TO THE ELEMENTS ALONG WITH MORE BROKEN SHEET ROCK.

IF YOU TURN AROUND FROM AND LOOK BACK TOWARDS THE PREVIOUS ROOM, YOU WILL SEE THE FOLLOWING REVIEW OF THE WALL ON THE NEXT PHOTO.

HERE'S THE WALL IN THE LAST ROOM WHERE THE SHEET ROCK HAS BEEN COMPLETELY STRIPPED, EXPOSING THE FRAMING.

AND YOU CAN ALSO SEE WHERE THE SHEET ROCK FROM THE CEILING HAS COLLAPSED DUE TO THE DETERIORATED ROOF, THE DOORWAY TO THE LEFT LEADS TO THE SECOND RESTROOM, WHICH IS IN, WHICH IS IN THE NEXT PHOTO.

THIS IS THE SECOND RESTROOM AND THE STRUCTURE CONNECTED TO THE SAME ROOM.

YOU CAN SEE THE FLOORING FLOOR COVERING IS MISSING, EXPOSING THE SLAB.

UH, THE SHEET ROCK HAS HOLES IN THE TOILET IS FILLED WITH FECES, AND ONCE AGAIN, THERE IS NO WATER SERVICE AT THIS TIME.

THIS IS THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY WITH A SINGLE STORY RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE, WHICH IS FOUND TO BE IN DETERIORATED IN DILAPIDATED CONDITION.

THE SLAB ON GREAT FOUNDATION HAS CRACKS AND THE WOOD FRAME IS EXPOSED TO THE ELEMENTS WHERE SIDING IS MISSING.

PORTIONS OF THE BOTTOM PLATE AND STUDS LACK WEATHER PROTECTION AND ARE ROTTED.

FRONT PORCH PATIO COVER IS MISSING A SUPPORT COLUMN, AND THE ASPHALT SHINGLE ROOF HAS HOLES.

PORTIONS OF THE WOOD SIDING ARE MISSING, EXPOSING THE INTERIOR OF THE STRUCTURE TO THE ELEMENTS AND RODENTS.

GRAFFITI CAN BE SEEN THROUGHOUT THE INTERIOR OF THE PROPERTY ALONG WITH SIGNS OF SQUATTERS.

TO RECAP, THE STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 43 43 EAST SOUTH CROSS BOULEVARD IS IN VIOLATION OF CITY CODE ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER SIX DASH 1 56, SUBSECTIONS 1, 2 5 7 8, 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18, IN WHICH ANY BUILDING OR STRUCTURE, WHICH HAS ANY OR ALL OF THE CONDITIONS OR DEFECTS HEREIN AFTER DESCRIBED, SHALL BE DEEMED TO BE A DANGEROUS BUILDING AND A HAZARD TO PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, AND WELFARE.

PROVIDED THAT SUCH CONDITIONS OF DEFECTS OF DILAPIDATION, SUBSTANDARD, OR UNFITNESS FOR HUMAN HABITATION POSE A THREAT OR POTENTIAL THREAT TO LIFE, HEALTH, PROPERTY, OR HUMAN SAFETY STAFF RECOMMENDS REPAIR.

THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION FOR 43 43 EAST SOUTH CROSS BOULEVARD.

DOES BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS IF THE COURT OFFICER SUN, GO AHEAD.

OKAY.

UH, DID YOU FIND THE PROPERTY OWNERS? UH, WE DID ATTEMPT TO FIND THE PROPERTY OWNER.

UM, WE WERE UNABLE TO, TO FIND THE PROPERTY OWNER.

WERE YOU SPEAKING TO MS. VI? AL? I'M SORRY, SIR.

WERE YOU SPEAKING TO ME, MS. VIDAL? UH, WERE YOU SENDING THE LETTERS TO HER? UH, WE SENT THE LETTER TO THE OWNER ON RECORD, WHICH IS RENOSO GUILLERMO TORRES.

OKAY.

YEAH, BECAUSE I SEE HERE THAT, UH, MS. VID CALLED YOU ON 12TH FLOOR ON IT.

OKAY.

AND WE HAVE TWO INTERPRETATIONS HERE.

IT'S A C TWO COMMERCIAL, AND HE SAID RESIDENTIAL, IT'S BEING USED AS A RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL AS A RESIDENTIAL.

OKAY.

'CAUSE I, I SEE HERE IN THE NOTES.

YES, SIR.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT THREW ME OFF ON IT.

THANK YOU.

AND I'M SORRY THAT IT WAS DELAYED.

THE MAILING WASN'T DELAYED THAT YOU HAD TO REDO IT.

THANK YOU.

YES, SIR.

GO AHEAD.

YEAH.

THANK YOU FOR PRESENTING.

YOU KNOW, JUST ONE, UH, NOTE ON, UM, THE INSPECTION FOR INFORMATION.

YOU DID MENTION IN THERE THAT THE, UM, THE SLAB ON GREAT FOUNDATION APPEARS TO HAVE SHIFTED.

UH, YOU DIDN'T TALK TO THAT AT ALL DURING YOUR PRESENTATION, ALTHOUGH YOU DID MENTION THERE WAS A CRACK IN THE SLAB, BUT THAT WAS IN THE HALLWAY.

I I DIDN'T SEE ANY, UH, DOORS OUT OF PLUM.

IT LOOKED LIKE EVERYTHING WAS STILL IN PLUM, BUT THE BUILDING.

SO IS THERE SOMETHING GOING ON THERE AS WELL WITH THE FOUNDATION? I APOLOGIZE ABOUT THAT, SIR.

I, I MAY HAVE, I THOUGHT I HAD REMOVED THAT PORTION WHERE THE, THERE WAS ANY SHIFTING, UH, THERE IS CRACKING IN THE FOUNDATION, BUT THE, THE, THE FOUNDATION IS PLUM.

THERE IS NO, YEAH, MAY THE 18TH.

THAT'S THE ONE THAT DIDN'T GO OUT.

THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD, YOU DIDN'T TALK AT ALL ABOUT THE MECHANICAL SYSTEM.

DIDN'T SEEM THERE WAS ANY MECHANICAL SYSTEM THERE IN, IN THE FACILITY, IN, IN THE BUILDING.

NO, SIR.

THE OTHER IS ELECTRICAL.

WE SEE ALL ONE OUTLET, BUT WE DIDN'T SEE ANY, UH,

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MX WIRE GOING TO IT.

IT LOOKED LIKE ALL THE, THE WIRING IS IS PULLED OUT OF THE HOUSE AS WELL.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

MS. BROWN.

YES.

DID YOU SAY YOU, YOU COULD NOT FIND THE OWNERS? THAT IS CORRECT, MA'AM.

SO WHO'S GONNA FIX THE PROPERTY? THAT WAS MY QUESTION.

.

I MEAN, WHY, WHY IS YOUR ORDER TO FIX PROPERTY AND YOU CAN'T FIND AN OWNER? I, I DON'T, I STILL, I'VE BEEN ON THIS BOARD 10 YEARS AND I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.

WELL, DEMOLITION IS ALWAYS THE LAST RESORT FOR THE CITY.

IT IS.

AND THAT'S WHY YOU'RE HERE, .

YES MA'AM.

MA'AM.

WE WANTED TO GIVE THE OWNERS OR A REPRESENTATIVE SOMEONE A CHANCE TO APPEAR BEFORE THE BOARD.

UNFORTUNATELY, NOBODY HAS, NOBODY HAS SHOWN UP.

AND AS OF RIGHT NOW, STAFF BELIEVES THAT THE STRUCTURE IS, UH, IS REPAIRABLE.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT'S NOT REPAIRABLE, BUT I'M SAYING WHO'S GONNA REPAIR IT? YOU KNOW, YOU YOUR ORDER FOR REPAIR AND THERE'S NOBODY THERE, THERE'S NOBODY HOME, RIGHT? CORRECT.

OKAY.

YES, MA'AM.

ALRIGHT.

JUST SO I, 'CAUSE IT'S THE SAME QUESTION I HAVE, BUT IF THIS IS THE PROCESS, OKAY, UH, I I HAVE A QUESTION.

UM, I'M SORRY, THIS IS LEGAL.

I I WANNA MAKE SURE WE CLARIFY ONE THING.

DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, UM, RECOMMENDATION'S GOING TO BE ON THE STRUCTURE.

YEAH.

ON THE, UH, CONDITION OF THE STRUCTURE.

UM, WE HAVE SEEN PERSONS COME IN HERE AT THE LAST MINUTE.

SO THEY'RE, THE RECOMMENDATION'S GONNA BE BASED ON THAT.

IT IS THE BOARD'S DETERMINATION, UM, AS TO WHETHER IT'S FEASIBLE THAT THEIR RECOMMENDATION BE FOLLOWED OR THEY DECIDE TO GO A DIFFERENT PATH.

SO THAT'S, I I I UNDERSTAND THE, WHY ARE YOU BRINGING IT HERE IF THERE'S NOBODY HERE, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S NOT THEIR, THAT'S NOT THEIR CALL.

THEIR CALL IS TO MAKE A DETERMINATION BASED ON THE CONDITION OF THAT PROPERTY.

YEAH.

THE BOARD CAN MAKE THE DETERMINATION IF TO REPAIRED OR TO DEMOLISH IT.

EXACTLY.

IT'S THE BOARD'S CALL.

THAT IS CORRECT.

SO, UM, ON, UH, DECEMBER 4TH, UH, OR NO, I'M SORRY, UH, NOVEMBER 17TH, IT SAYS THAT YOU WENT OUT TO THE, THE LISTED ADDRESS OF THE OWNER.

WAS THAT PROPERTY ALSO VACANT OR WAS THIS NOBODY HOME? NO, MA'AM.

IT, IT WAS NOT VACANT.

UH, WE KNOCKED ON THE DOOR, WE LEFT THE DOOR HANGER HOPING TO MAKE CONTACT WITH SOMEONE, BUT NOBODY ANSWERED, AND I STILL HAVE YET TO RECEIVE ANY PHONE CALLS.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

YES, MA'AM.

MR. ANDES? YES.

UM, YOU'RE ASKING FOR REPAIR NOW.

YOU ASKING FOR REPAIR ON THE C TWO PROPERTY OR THE RESIDENTIAL? ON THE RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE ON THE C TWO PROPERTY.

OKAY.

HOW ARE YOU GONNA PULL A PERMIT ON THAT? THE PROPERTY IS ONE AND, AND ALL HERE ON THE RIGHT IN IT'S RESIDENCE.

C TWO AND, AND SAY RESIDENTIAL.

AND NOW IT'S COMMERCIAL, BUT IT'S RESIDENTIAL.

IS THAT CORRECT? IT'S A RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE ON A C TWO PROPERTY.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I, I, I LIVE IN THAT AREA.

ALL OF THAT IS NOW, UH, C TWO PROPERTY ON THAT RIGHT SIDE.

IF YOU'RE GOING BACK TOWARDS FROM WW BACK, HOW DO YOU PULL YOUR PERMIT IF YOU'RE WANTING A RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE FIXED, IT SITS ON A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.

THEY CAN ALWAYS CONTACT, UH, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TO, UH, BUT YOU GUIDE THEM IN THE PROCESS OF RE GETTING ANY, ACQUIRING, ANY, ANY, UH, PERMITS THAT ARE RE THAT ARE NEEDED TO BE ABLE TO REPAIR THAT STRUCTURE.

ALL RIGHT.

IT THIS, YOU HAVE NO OWNER, YOU'VE NOT CONTACTED ANYBODY? NO.

THEY HAVE CONTACTED, THEY JUST HAVE NOT REPLIED, WHICH MEANS THEY BASICALLY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE PROPERTY.

AND NOBODY SHOWED UP TODAY, CORRECT? CORRECT.

AND YOU'VE MADE AN ATTEMPT TO GO TO THE OWNER'S HOUSE, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT I READ? YES, SIR.

AND THAT'S FAILED.

YOU LEFT A NOTE.

UH, UH, A DOOR TAG, DOOR TAG.

AND YOU STILL HAVEN'T GOT ANYTHING? AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANYTHING.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

FINAL QUESTIONS.

THERE ARE NONE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

BOARD MICHAEL CASCIANO, SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT.

PLEASE COME FORWARD.

CHIEF AND I WILL LEAVE.

ACTUALLY, I NORMALLY LEAVE THAT TO MR. ANDES 'CAUSE HE'S GONNA TELL YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE 'CAUSE WE DO APPRECIATE IT.

I'LL DO THAT ONE TODAY.

THANK YOU.

WELL, GOOD MORNING.

THANK YOU'ALL FOR HAVING ME.

GOOD MORNING.

UM, THE PROPERTY WE'RE SPEAKING ON, EXCUSE ME, LET ME, IF YOU WOULD JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ALSO YES, I'M SORRY.

I AM, UH, OFFICER MIKE CASTANO.

I'VE BEEN A-S-A-P-D OFFICER ALMOST 21 YEARS.

I'VE BEEN A PART OF SAFE, THE EAST SIDE SAFE UNIT FOR THE PAST 13 YEARS.

I'VE BEEN IN CHARGE OF THIS AREA WHERE THIS, THIS STRUCTURE STANDS

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FOR THE PROBABLY THE LAST SEVEN YEARS.

AND YOUR DISTRICT? AND MY DISTRICT.

IT'S FALLS WITHIN 42 FIFTIES DISTRICT.

I AM A EAST SIDE SAFE.

THANK YOU.

YES, SIR.

GO AHEAD.

UM, THIS, THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN A PROBLEM FOR US FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS.

IT'S BEEN VACANT SINCE 2018.

UM, I KNOW THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT EVERYTHING THIS PAST YEAR.

I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH CODE FROM THIS STRUCTURE FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, FROM 2018.

NEVER HAVE WE EVER BEEN ABLE TO GET AHOLD OF AN OWNER.

THE STRUCTURE IS COMPLETELY FALLING UP, FALLING DOWN.

IT'S BECAME BECOME A, A HAVEN FOR HOMELESS ACTIVITY.

COUNTLESS, UM, SIGNS OF NARCOTIC USE BEING USED.

I'VE BEEN SEEING FIRES STARTED INSIDE THE STRUCTURE, OUTSIDE THE STRUCTURE.

I KNOW IN THE PICTURES, THE DOORS AND WALLS HAVE BEEN BOARDED UP.

THE BACK WALL WAS FALLING DOWN.

IT WAS TOTALLY EXPOSED FOR YEARS, FOR A LONG TIME.

CODE WILL GET CONTRACTORS AND WILL BOARD IT UP ALREADY RIGHT NOW.

I WENT BY THAT, THE STRUCTURE, 'CAUSE THEY BOARDED IT UP, HOMELESS ALREADY MADE ANOTHER HOLE TO CRAWL IN THROUGH.

THERE'S, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO WAY OF KEEPING THEM OUT WITH AN ABSENTEE OWNER LIKE THIS.

NOTHING IS GETTING DONE.

AND US AS POLICE OFFICERS ARE HELPLESS WITHOUT THE OWNER'S CONSENT SAYING, HEY, THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT ALLOWED THERE.

SO WE'LL GO OVER THERE AND WE'LL MAKE 'EM LEAVE.

UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I MEAN, THE CALLS THAT ARE COMING IN THERE ARE FOR, UH, WOMEN SCREAMING, POSSIBLY GETTING RAPED, GETTING HURT, GETTING MURDERED.

PEOPLE HAS SEEN LITTLE KIDS BEING TAKEN IN, INTO THAT HOUSE.

UM, I WORK MORNING TIMES.

I GO OUT THERE ON A WEEKLY BASIS AND I GOTTA CLEAR THAT STRUCTURE ALL THE TIME.

I FEEL LIKE THAT ROOF IS GONNA FALL ON MY HEAD AT ANY MOMENT.

I'M HAVING TO CRAWL OVER BEDS, FECES, TRASH NEEDLES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE ON A DAILY BASIS.

AND I'M DOING IT DURING BROAD DAYLIGHT.

SO THERE'S STILL SOME LIGHT FOR ME.

THE OFFICERS THAT HAVE TO DO IT AT NIGHT, I, I FEAR FOR THEM BECAUSE I'VE SEEN BOOBY TRAPS SET BY THE HOMELESS THERE.

I'VE STEPPED ON NAILS ON TWO BY FOURS GOING THROUGH THAT STRUCTURE.

AND LIKE I SAID, THE ROOF FEELS LIKE IT'S GONNA COLLAPSE ON YOU AT ANY MOMENT.

AND WHEN WE ARE SEARCHING THESE PROPERTIES, BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE CALLING IN, HEY, SOMEONE MIGHT BE GETTING HURT IN THERE, WE GOTTA GO MAKE ENTRY.

'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S OPEN IN THE BACK.

SO WE GOTTA, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU, THOSE PICTURES DON'T DO ANY JUSTICE.

THAT HOUSE IS BIG AND IT IS SO COMPLICATED TO GET AROUND ALL THAT TRASH AND DEBRIS.

IT IS A SAFETY HAZARD FOR US FIRST RESPONDERS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO CHECK THE CLOSETS.

WE GOTTA CHECK THE RESTROOMS. ANY NOOK AND CRANNY THAT SOMEBODY COULD BE HURT OR LYING THERE IN, IN, IN NEED OF, OF, OF HELP.

I, EVERY TIME I GO OUT THERE, I ALWAYS GOTTA BRING SOMEBODY ELSE WITH ME JUST IN CASE.

'CAUSE IF I GET HURT, NO ONE'S GONNA KNOW THAT I'M HURT.

I NEED ASSISTANCE.

I ALWAYS GOTTA HAVE BACKUP WITH ME.

AND LIKE I SAID, THE NIGHT GUYS, I FEEL FOR THEM BECAUSE SO MANY TIMES THEY HAD TO GO CLEAR THAT HOUSE IN THE DARK.

THEY HAD THEIR FLASHLIGHTS.

BUT MAN, IT IS, IT IS SCARY AND IT'S DANGEROUS IN THAT STRUCTURE.

FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS, NEVER HAVE I BEEN ABLE TO GET AHOLD OF AN OWNER.

NEVER SEEN ANYBODY OUT THERE.

I PERSONALLY, BECAUSE THAT STRUCTURE GETS TAGGED SO MUCH.

I PERSONALLY HAVE GONE OUT THERE AND PAINTED OVER GRAFFITI.

WE TOOK IT UPON ME AND ANOTHER OFFICER TOOK IT UPON OURSELVES BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE, ARE TIRED OF IT.

AND DURING COVID TIME, OUR UH, GRAFFITI ABATEMENT TEAM WAS VERY SHORT STAFFED.

EVERYBODY WAS HURTING.

SO ME AND ANOTHER OFFICER TOOK IT UPON OURSELVES.

YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'LL GO PICK UP PAINT FROM THEM AND WE'LL DO IT OURSELVES BECAUSE WE WANT TO HELP OUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT, IT LOOKS TRASHY, IT LOOKS BAD.

THE OWNER'S NOT DOING ANYTHING TO HELP IT.

SO WE, AS THE POLICE OFFICERS, WE'RE GONNA FIX THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE'RE SAFE OFFICERS, WE ARE THE COMMUNITY OFFICERS THERE FOR THE, FOR THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO WE TOOK IT UPON OURSELVES.

UM, I JUST, ANY, I KNOW THEY'RE PUSHING FOR REPAIRS AND IT, IT BLOWS MY MIND IN FIVE YEARS.

I'VE NEVER SEEN AN OWNER, NEVER TALKED TO ANYBODY THAT WOULD BE EVEN WILLING TO MAKE ANY REPAIRS.

IF IT WAS UP TO ME, GUYS, I AM PUSHING TO DEMOLISH IT.

THAT STRUCTURE IS NOTHING BUT PROBLEMS AND ISSUES FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, I'M, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I COULD DO ON THAT PART, BUT I, THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION.

I DON'T KNOW IF I'M SUPPOSED TO SAY IN RECOMMENDATION , BUT I FEEL IT NEEDS TO GET DEMOLISHED.

THERE IS NO HELPING IT RIGHT NOW AND WITHOUT AN OWNER TO EVEN PUT EFFORT.

I, I, ALL I SEE IS GETTING HURT, UH, WORSE.

AND I, I HAVE A FEELING THE OFFICER'S GONNA GET HURT WHEN THEY'RE CLEARING THAT STRUCTURE.

OKAY.

YOU CERTAINLY HAVE THE RIGHT FOR AN OPINION, THAT'S FOR SURE.

DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE OFFICER? MIKE KAYLA, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE.

UM, DO YOU HAVE, UH, THE, THE NUMBER OF CALLS THAT YOU'VE, I LOOKED UP FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS.

OKAY.

SO THIS IS THE ISSUE WE'RE HAVING ON RECORD.

WHEN YOU RUN THAT ADDRESS, APPROXIMATELY 75 COME OUT.

THE ISSUE IS WHEN I SPEAK TO THE NEIGHBORS, THAT HOUSE SITS ON THE 4,300 BLOCK OF EAST SOUTH CROSS, AND THERE'S WOODS ON BOTH SIDES.

NOBODY KNOWS THAT ADDRESS.

SO ALL THEY DO IS GIVE THE, THE STREET INTERSECTION OR GIVE 'EM THEIR ADDRESS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SAY, HEY, IT'S ACROSS THE STREET BEHIND ME SOMEWHERE.

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SO YOU, IT'S NOT AN ACCURATE CALL, UM, CALL LOG ON IT BECAUSE I CAN'T LOOK UP EVERY SINGLE CROSS STREET BECAUSE IT GETS PUT OUT SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS.

BUT IF YOU RUN JUST THE ADDRESS, IF SOMEONE KNOWS FOR SURE AND THEY CALL IN ON THE ADDRESS, IT'S ABOUT 75.

BUT I KNOW THAT NUMBER IS EXTREMELY HIGHER THAN THAT.

AND SO IS THAT 75 FOR ONE YEAR OR NO, THAT WAS SINCE, SINCE 2018.

I LOOK BACK, I KNOW IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A LOT, BUT THE ISSUE IS WHEN I DO SPEAK TO THE NEIGHBORS, THEY DON'T KNOW THE ADDRESS.

SO THEY'RE NOT CALLING IN ON THAT SPECIFIC ADDRESS.

ALL THEY'RE SAYING IT'S A VACANT HOUSE, 4,300 BLOCK OF SOUTH CROSS.

SOME OF 'EM ARE SAYING 4,000 SOUTH CROSS.

AND I MEAN, YOU RUN THAT, YOU'RE GONNA GET THOUSANDS OF CALLS.

I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S HARD.

IT'S HARD.

SO, BUT YES, IF YOU RUN THAT SPECIFIC ADDRESS, IT'S ABOUT 75.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I JUST, MIKE, ON THAT SAME SECTION OVER THERE WHERE ALL THE WOODS ARE, THAT WHOLE AREA OVER THERE IS, UH, TRANSIENT IN THAT AREA, RIGHT? YES.

THAT'S ALSO THE ONES THAT COME IN FROM RIGSBY AREA MOVING DOWN IN THAT SECTION? YES.

AND YOU SAY 75 ON THAT ONE? JUST ON, JUST WHEN YOU RUN THE CALLS ON THAT ONE ADDRESS NOW THAT'S ALL CALLS, NOT SPECIFIC CALLS.

NO.

NO.

THAT'S JUST WHEN THAT'S ALL CALLS.

NO, NO, IT DOESN'T.

YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO DOWN EACH CALL TO SEE WHAT IT'S FOR.

THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY ARRESTS OUT OF THAT HOUSE.

THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY, LIKE I SAID, THE OFFICERS WILL GO OUT THERE.

IF THERE'S HOMELESS IN THERE, WE'RE GONNA RUN 'EM FOR WARRANTS.

BUT WE CAN'T ARREST 'EM FOR TRESPASS BECAUSE WE HAVE NO SIGNED AFFIDAVIT FROM A, A, A HOMEOWNER OR THE PROPERTY OWNER TO GIVE US CONSENT WITHOUT AN OWNER SAYING THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT ALLOWED.

WE CAN'T ARREST THEM FOR TRESPASS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, MIKE, MR. ZUNIGA.

YEAH.

LET ME, UH, MAKE A COMMENT.

UH, THE SITUATION IS HERE, WE MAKE THE DETERMINATION, THE OFFICER, THE OFFICER HAS BEEN RESPECTFUL TO PUT IT FOR REPAIRS FOR OUR YOUTH, BUT WE MAKE THE DETERMINATION HERE AND, YOU KNOW, APPLAUD, UH, THE OFFICER FOR GIVING US, UH, THE OPPORTUNITY.

SOMETIMES WE JUST LOOK AT THE MILEAGE, WHAT HE HAS GIVEN US AN OPPORTUNITY AND MM-HMM, .

BUT WE WILL MAKE THE DETERMINATION WITH EVIDENCE LIKE YOU HAVE MM-HMM, AND WHAT THE OFFICERS PICKED UP ON.

OKAY.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

HOPEFULLY WE CAN HELP YOU.

I'M, I'M HOPING ALSO, SIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR IT.

IF YOU CALLED, OFFICER WOULD PLEASE COME BACK UP.

THANK YOU.

MR. ANDERS HAS A QUESTION FOR YOU.

PLEASE COME BACK UP.

YES.

I FORGOT TO ASK YOU EARLIER.

YES, SIR.

AND WE NORMALLY DO THIS SINCE SALES WERE PAINTED WHITE ON THE WINDOWS AND STUFF.

THAT MEANS IT'S PROBABLY, UH, AN ABATEMENT DONE, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT, SIR.

THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO PAINTS THEIR PAINTS, THE BOARDS.

DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY, UH, UH, ABATEMENTS WERE DONE ON THAT PROPERTY AS OF THIS YEAR? I BELIEVE THERE WERE TWO TWO ABATEMENTS THIS YEAR.

THIS YEAR.

JUST TO BOARD IT UP OR TO CLEAN IT AS WELL.

CLEAN AND SECURE? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

STEVEN SING.

I APOLOGIZE IF I MISPRONOUNCE THE NAME.

SING.

THAT'S OKAY.

SING.

EXCUSE ME.

THAT, UH, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR HOME ADDRESS PLEASE.

STEVE SING 4 1 3 8 VALLEY FIELD, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 2 2.

THANK YOU.

AND YOUR TESTIMONY PLEASE.

UH, I AM REPRESENTING THE, UH, UH, PECAN VALLEY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OF WHICH I'M A MEMBER AND, AND A RESIDENT IN THAT AREA.

AND, AND I AGREED TO COME AND MAKE A STATEMENT, UH, ON, ON THEIR BEHALF IN REGARDS TO THAT STRUCTURE.

UH, AND I'VE WRITTEN WHEN A HABITATION IS NO LONGER USEFUL FOR ITS INTENDED PURPOSE, IT BECOMES THE HABITATION OF TRESPASSING, INDIGENTS, VANDALS WITH A SPRAY CAN, ENVIRONMENT SEEKING SHELTER.

THIS IS THE PRESENT FATE OF 43 43 EAST SOUTH CROSS.

AND FROM ITS PRESENT CONDITION IS RAPIDLY DETERIORATING.

ALL WINDOWS ARE BROKEN OUT AND BOARDED OVER.

THE SIDING HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM A SECTION ON ONE EXTERIOR WALL.

THIS IS WHAT I CAN VIEW FROM THE STREET.

THE EXTERIOR WALLS ARE IN CONSTANT NEED OF GRAFFITI ABATEMENT.

TRESPASSERS HAVE GAINED ENTRANCE TO THE STRUCTURE FROM THE BACKSIDE, AND I'M TOLD THAT THE INSIDE IS LITTERED WITH DEBRIS OF VIENT CAMPERS, INCLUDING EXCREMENT AND USED DRUG PARAPHERNALIA.

AND WE'VE SEEN EVIDENCE OF THAT FROM THE PHOTO.

IT IS THE FEAR OF RESIDENTS THAT THE TRESPASSERS WILL SET FIRE TO THE STRUCTURE AND THE BAMBOO FOREST, WHICH IS A THICKET BEHIND THE STRUCTURE, WILL GO UP IN FLAMES AS WELL, CAUSING RISK TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS ON VALLEY FIELD WHOSE PROPERTY BACKS UP TO, TO THAT, UH, THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY.

AND, UH, FOR THAT REASON, I RESPECTFULLY SUBMIT, UH, THIS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND, AND I WOULD REQUEST, UH, THAT YOU CONSIDER DEMOLITION OF THE PROPERTY.

ANY QUESTIONS? MR. KINSEY? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE TOO.

'CAUSE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS DO GREAT WORK FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, CHAIR

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WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION, MITCH, MR. ANDES, TO MAKE THE MOTION ON 43 43 SOUTH CROSS BOULEVARD BE SENT BACK FOR REASSESSMENT.

IS THERE A REASON WHY YOU WANT IT REASSESSED? AS FOR WHAT IT IS PRESENTLY COMING TO THE BOARD FOR CONSIDERATION, IT'S TO REPAIR.

IT'S COMING FOR, YOU HAVE RIGHT REPAIR, BUT BASED OFF OF NO OWNER STEPPING FORWARD, THE PROPERTY IS NOT GONNA GET ANY BETTER.

IT'S ACTUALLY GETTING GONNA BECOME WORSE.

AND I THINK A REASSESSMENT ON THIS PROPERTY TO BRING IT BACK EITHER A DEMO PROPERTY OR IF THEY STILL WANNA REPAIR IT.

BUT I DON'T SEE IT FEASIBLE FOR REPAIR AT THIS TIME.

MR. CHAIR, THIS IS LEGAL.

I I NEED THE BOARD TO MAKE A DETERMINATION ON WHETHER THIS PROPERTY IS A DANGEROUS STRUCTURE AND IF SO, I NEED THE BOARD TO MAKE A DETERMINATION AS TO HOW THAT DANGEROUS STRUCTURE SHOULD BE ADDRESSED.

WE, I I, I THINK IT'D BE IMPROPER FOR THE BOARD TO ASK CODE TO COME BACK WITH A NEW RECOMMENDATION.

IT'S THEIR RECOMMENDATION IS THEIR RECOMMENDATION.

SO THIS BOARD NEEDS TO MAKE A DETERMINATION AS TO IF IT IS A DANGEROUS STRUCTURE.

IF SO, HOW DOES THIS BOARD BELIEVE THE PROPERTY SHOULD BE ABATED? OKAY.

UH, UH, UH, LET ME ASK YOU THIS THEN, COUNSEL.

I WAS GOING ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT IT IS SENT IN FOR A REPAIR.

YEAH, I, I WANT THIS BOARD TO, I I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR ON THIS.

LET ME MAKE SURE.

ALRIGHT.

THIS BOARD DETERMINES WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN TO THE PROPERTY.

OKAY? THIS BOARD IS NOT, CANNOT, UM, INFLUENCE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ON WHAT THEIR RECOMMENDATION IS.

THEIR RECOMMENDATION IS HAS OTHER FACTORS PROBABLY INVOLVED.

THEIR RECOMMENDATION IS BASED ON WHETHER THAT PROPERTY THEY BELIEVE IN GENERAL CAN BE REPAIRED.

AND IF THEY THINK THAT PROPERTY CAN BE REPAIRED, THEN THEIR RECOMMENDATION'S GONNA BE REPAIR MAKES THE FINAL DECISION.

AND IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH IT, YOU DON'T AGREE WITH IT, AND YOU, YOU DETERMINE OR MAKE A RULING FOR SOMETHING ELSE.

IF YOU DO AGREE WITH IT, THEN GO GO AHEAD AND GO BY THEM.

BUT I, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THIS BOARD UNDERSTANDS IT'S RIGHT.

RIGHT? WE DON'T NEED THE, WE DON'T NEED THE, THE RECOMMENDATION AND THE BOARD'S ULTIMATE DECISION TO ALWAYS, UM, UH, BE AGREEABLE.

OKAY? UH, ALL RIGHT.

I WAS GONNA DO IT THE YEAH, BUT I'LL DO IT THIS WAY.

UM, HOLD ON.

CAN, CAN, CAN WE HAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION? I, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

SURE.

YEAH.

MR. CHAIR, WE'RE GONNA ASK FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

GOT IT.

THE TIME IS NOW 10 31.

UH, ON 14 DECEMBER, 2023, THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD WILL RECESS FROM THE OPEN MEETING AND CONVENE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSULT WITH LEGAL COUNSEL TO DISCUSS ATTORNEY CLIENT MATTERS PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 5 1 0.07, ONE OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.

THE TIME IS NOW 10 40, UH, ON 14TH DECEMBER, 2023, THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD WILL NOW RECONVENE AN OPEN SESSION.

NO OFFICIAL ACTION WAS TAKEN IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION, UH, WHEN WE ADJOURNED.

UH, MR. ANDES, YOU HAD THE BOARD, UH, YOU HAD THE FLOOR, SO YES.

YOU EITHER RELINQUISH THE FLOOR OR GO AHEAD.

NO, I'LL, UH, GO AHEAD AND I'LL, UH, AMEND MY EARLIER STATEMENT.

UM, ALL MOTION.

I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4 3 4 3 EAST SOUTH CROSS BOULEVARD IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE, WHICH IS NON FEASIBLE FOR REPAIRS AT THIS TIME AND IS IN VIOLATION OF CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION 1 5 6, SUBSECTIONS 1, 2, 5, 7, 8, 11, 12, 15, 17, 18.

AND THAT THE PROPERTY IS IN VIOLATION OF CODES AND IT POSES A THREAT OR POTENTIAL THREAT TO LIFE, HEALTH, SAFETY, OR PROPERTY.

AND I MOVE THAT WE DEMO, UH, DEMOLITION THIS PROPERTY WITHIN 30 DAYS.

THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS THAT PROPERTY LOCATED AT 43 43 EAST SOUTH CROSS BOULEVARD IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE AND IS NOT FEASIBLE BEING REPAIRED AT THIS TIME.

UH, AND IT'S IN VIOLATION OF ARTICLE CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION 1 5 6, SUB CODES 1, 2, 5, 7, 8, 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18, THAT THE ABILITY BE DEMOLISHED IN 30 DAYS.

DO I HAVE A SECOND, SECOND FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, MS. BROWN.

SECOND.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? UH, FRIENDLY AMENDMENT? GO AHEAD WITH YOUR FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.

OKAY.

UH, WE'RE TALKING 30

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DAYS WHEN THEY RECEIVED IT, THEN THEY CAN COME AND, AND APPEAL IT WITHIN 30 DAYS.

AND, BUT TO GIVE, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNER 90 DAYS MAXIMUM, UH, TO REPAIR, DEMOLISH THE, WHATEVER OUR DECISION IS HERE TO DEMOLISH, IF THE HOLD ON TERMINOLOGY IS TO DEMOLISH IN 30 DAYS, THEN THE OWNER ACTUALLY HAS TO THEN GO TO COURT TO APPEAL AND HE HAS THE RIGHT TO DO THAT IN 30 DAYS AFTER THE LETTER GOES OUT.

Y YEAH, AND, AND YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T ORDER A REPAIR AND DEMO.

THE, THE ONLY THING I'M LOOKING HERE, UH, FRED IS, UH, ARTICLE 6 1 5 9, ARTICLE 6 1 6 3 OF THE CODE.

THANK YOU.

WELL, YOU'RE, YOU'RE CONFUSING, REPAIR AND DEMOLISH.

THE, THE ORDER OR THE MOTION IS TO DEMOLISH THE STRUCTURE.

YEAH, NO REPAIRS BEING IT'S DEMOLISHED AND, AND THEY GOT UP TO 90 DAYS, 30 DAYS, YOU KNOW, TO CHALLENGE.

BUT 90 DAYS TO COMPLETE THE WORK, THERE'S NO REPAIR REQUIRED.

WE'RE DEMOLISHING THE STRUCTURE.

EXACTLY.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

ANY, ANY SITUATION TO REPAIR OR TO DEMOLISH.

SO WE'RE DEMOLISHING IN THIS SITUATION, WHICH SECTION 6 1 63 COMES INTO EFFECT.

THE MOTION DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY REPAIR.

THE MOTION IS TO DEMOLISH, UH, TO REMOVE OR DEMOLISH THE BUILDING.

THE BSA ESTABLISH SPECIFIC SCHEDULES AND THAT'S UP TO 90 DAYS.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UH, I WITHDRAW MY AMENDMENT.

VERY GOOD.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION FOR DEMOLITION IN 30 DAYS.

SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED, SAY NAY.

THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

OUR NEXT CASE IS GOING TO BE SIX 10 SOUTH, UH, SAN JUAN AVENUE.

GOOD MORNING BOARD MEMBERS.

GOOD MORNING FOR THE RECORD.

MY NAME IS JOHN GARZA, SS OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

THE STRUCTURE BEING PRESENTED TODAY IS LOCATED AT 6 1 0 SOUTH SAN JOAQUIN AVENUE WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF FOR DEMOLITION IN ACCORDANCE WITH CITY CODE ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER SIX.

THIS CASE IS THE FIRST TIME BEING HEARD.

THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION IS NCB 8 6 6 1 BLOCK 11, LOT FIVE AND SIX LOCATED IN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT FIVE.

THE OWNER ON RECORD IS JUANA REMO REMOTES WITH A MAILING ADDRESS OF 6 1 0 SOUTH JOAQUIN AVENUE.

ALL NOTICE OF HEARINGS WERE PROPERLY ISSUED AS REQUIRED.

THE OWNER ON RECORD IS NOT PRESENT TODAY.

DOES THE BOARD WISH TO PROCEED? WE DO.

PLEASE.

THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION HAS CONFIRMED THAT ON SEPTEMBER 12TH, 2023, THE PROPERTY IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR HISTORIC DESIGNATION.

THE FOLLOWING IS A TIMELINE OF EVENTS REGARDING THE NOTIFICATION PROCESS.

THE FIRST INSPECTION REGARDING SIX ONE SOUTH SAN JOAQUIN AVENUE WAS CON CONDUCTED ON FEBRUARY 13TH, 2023.

ORIGINAL NOTICE WAS MAILED, EXCUSE ME, ON FEBRUARY 16TH, 2023 AND THE CERTIFIED NOTICE WAS RETURNED ON MARCH 22ND, 2023 ON NOVEMBER 30TH, 2023.

THE NOTICE FOR BSB HEARING WAS POSTED AS 6 1 0 SOUTH SIDEWALK JOAQUIN AVENUE ON NOVEMBER 29TH, 2023.

THE NOTICE FOR BSB HEARING WAS MAILED TO OWNER AND CERTIFIED RECEIPT HAS NOT RETURNED.

NO SCOPE OF WORK OR FINANCIAL PROOF OR LETTER OF CREDIT OR ENGINEERS REPORT HAS BEEN PROVIDED.

THERE ARE NO CURRENT PERMITS ON FILE FOR THIS LOCATION.

THE PHOTOS BEING PRESENTED WERE TAKEN ON NOVEMBER 14TH, EXCUSE ME, 2023.

THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION OF, UH, SOUTH SAN JOAQUIN WITH A GABLE ROOF, UM,

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GABLE ROOF SYSTEM, ASPHALT SHINGLES.

NEXT PHOTO PLEASE.

WHILE WE'RE CONDUCTING THE, UH, THE WARRANT FOR THE INTERIOR PHOTOS, WE NOTICED THAT UH, THERE'S A KIND OF A MAKESHIFT WOODEN BEAM HOLDING UP THE FRONT AWNING THAT WAS A CONCERN.

UM, SAPD AND MYSELF WERE KIND OF HESITANT TO ENTER THE PROPERTY JUST 'CAUSE OF THAT.

WE'RE JUST WONDERING HOW MUCH OF THE LOAD IT WAS HANDLING.

UH, SO THAT WAS KIND OF A CONCERN.

NEXT PHOTO, PLEASE.

THAT'S A BETTER VIEW OF THE DAMAGE TO THE ORIGINAL BEAM THAT'S HOLDING UP THAT AWNING.

SO THEY PUT A KIND OF A MAKESHIFT WOODEN BEAM ON THERE.

IT'S NOT SECURED PROPERLY, AND SO THAT'S A KIND OF A CONCERN.

NEXT PHOTO, PLEASE.

THE LOCATION HAS NO SERVICE.

ALL ELECTRICAL SERVICE HAS BEEN DISCONNECTED.

NEXT PHOTO.

SO BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO SERVICE, THEY'RE RUNNING THE ENTIRE STRUCTURE, UH, WITH A LITTLE GENERATOR.

AND THIS IS A PHOTO THAT GENERATOR.

NEXT PHOTO, THERE'S SEVERAL PLUGS COMING OUTTA THAT GENERATOR THAT GOES INTO THE STRUCTURE.

THEY'RE RUNNING, UH, EXTENSION CORDS THROUGHOUT THE PROPERTY THERE.

NEXT PHOTO, PLEASE.

THAT'S JUST SHOWING THAT THIS COMING FROM THE EXTERIOR TO THE INTERIOR AND THEY'RE USING THE WINDOW TO RUN THOSE CORDS.

NEXT PHOTO.

SO THERE WAS A FIRE THAT OCCURRED AT THIS LOCATION, UM, AND YOU COULD SEE THE DAMAGE UP ON THE OVERHANG.

SOME WORK WAS BEING CONDUCTED ON THE STRUCTURE ITSELF.

AND THIS IS THE UNFINISHED.

UM, THIS IS THE UNFINISHED PORTION OF THE STRUCTURE TOWARDS THE REAR ELEVATION.

NEXT PHOTO.

THIS IS THE REAR ELEVATION AND THE UNFINISHED PORTION OF THE STRUCTURE.

LIKE I SAID BEFORE, NO PERMITS WERE OBTAINED FOR THIS.

AND YOU COULD SEE ON THE OVERHANG THERE, THERE'S, UH, SOME OVERHANG DAMAGE FROM THE FIRE THAT OCCURRED.

NEXT PHOTO.

THIS IS THE FOUNDATION SKIRTING, UH, IT'S BOWING OUT.

UH, THEY'VE KIND OF PUT SOME TWO BY FOURS TO TRY TO MAKE A MAKESHIFT KIND OF DED FOR FROM FALLING OVER.

NEXT PHOTO.

THESE ARE THE EXTENSION WIRES, UM, EXTENSION CORDS THAT ARE COMING FROM THE EXTERIOR OF THE HOUSE, EXCUSE ME, FROM THAT LITTLE GENERATOR THAT ARE RUNNING ALL THROUGH THE HOUSE.

THAT'S THE WAY THEY'RE PROVIDING THEMSELVES, UH, SOME SERVICE.

NEXT PHOTO.

AS YOU CAN SEE, ALL THE SHEET ROCK INSIDE THIS, UH, THIS SHEET ROCK HAS BEEN REMOVED IN THE FRONT LIVING ROOM.

THE WALLS STUDS HAVE ARE EXPOSED.

NEXT PHOTO, YOU HAVE DAMAGE ON THE CEILING.

THE CEILING JOINTS ARE EXPOSED AND WIRING IS EXPOSED.

NEXT PHOTO.

THIS IS A DAMAGE ON THE FRONT LIVING ROOM AREA.

UH, THERE IS ELEMENTS OF RAIN COMING IN THROUGH THAT HOLE.

NEXT PHOTO.

THIS IS GONNA BE A REAR LOCATION OF, OF THE STRUCTURE.

AS YOU CAN SEE, ALL THE SHEET ROCK HAS BEEN TAKEN OFF, UH, OR HAS BEEN DAMAGED BY THE FIRE.

THE CEILING JOISTS IS EXPOSED.

NEXT PHOTO, IT'S A BETTER VIEW OF ALL THE WOOD STUDS THAT ARE EXPOSED FROM THE, THE FIRE THAT DAMAGED ALL THE SHEET ROCK.

NEXT PHOTO HERE WE HAVE SHARD CEILING, JOISTS, RAFTERS, AND WOOD DECKING.

NEXT PHOTO.

ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS THE ANOTHER PHOTO OF THE SHARD CEILING JOISTS AND THE DAMAGE THAT WAS CAUSED BY THE FIRE AND THE REAR ELEVATION OF THE STRUCTURE.

ONCE AGAIN, ANOTHER PHOTO OF THE DAMAGE THAT WAS CAUSED BY THE FIRE.

THERE ARE TWO ACCESSORY STRUCTURES IN THE BACKYARD.

THIS IS GONNA BE ACCESSORY NUMBER ONE.

THE SMALL LITTLE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IS DILAPIDATED.

THE DOORS ARE UNSECURED, NOT SITTING, NOT SITTING ON THE RAILS IN THE ROOF IS DETERIORATED.

EXCUSE ME.

NEXT PHOTO.

THIS IS DEBRIS.

EXCUSE ME.

THIS IS THE DEBRIS INSIDE THE, UM, ACCESSORY NUMBER ONE.

UH, IT'S TRASH AND DEBRIS INSIDE THAT, THAT LOW STRUCTURE CAUSING A RED, RED HARD BRIDGE.

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NEXT PHOTO, ANOTHER PHOTO OF THE DEBRIS JUST SCATTER AROUND THAT ACCESSORY NUMBER ONE.

NEXT PHOTO.

THIS IS GONNA BE ACCESSORY NUMBER TWO.

UH, ONCE AGAIN, THIS ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IS DILAPIDATED.

AS YOU CAN SEE THERE IN THE FRONT.

IT HAS FRONT DAMAGE.

UH, THE DOOR IS NOT PROPERLY SECURED.

IT'S ALLOWING RODENT HARBOR BRIDGE AND THE ELEMENTS TO ENTER.

NEXT PHOTO.

THIS IS A CLEAR VIEW OF, UM, ACCESSORY NUMBER TWO.

UH, THE ROOF AREA IS DILAPIDATED AND HAS HOLES, EH.

NEXT PHOTO.

THIS IS THE INTERIOR OF ACCESSORY NUMBER TWO.

ALSO, RED HARBRIDGE IS, IS, UH, GOING ON THERE.

NEXT PHOTO, EXCUSE ME.

6 1 0 SAN JOAQUIN AVENUE IS A 5,824 SQUARE FOOT SINGLE STORY STRUCTURE BUILT IN 1977 WITH A GABLE ASPHALT SHINGLE ROOF SYSTEM FIRED OCCURRED AT LOCATION CAUSING DAMAGE TO INTERIOR WALLS, CEILING JOISTS, RAFTERS, AND DECKING OF THE REAR ELEVATION.

THE INTERIOR WALLS OF THE STRUCTURE ARE DAMAGED.

THE LOCATION HAS NO SERVICE AND OCCUPANTS ARE USING A SMALL GENERATOR TO PROVIDE ELECTRICAL SERVICE, CAUSING TO HAVE EXTENSION WIRES TO BE PLACED THROUGHOUT THE INTERIOR OF THE STRUCTURE.

ESPECI NUMBER ONE IS DETERIORATED AND CAUSING VANDALISM.

HAS AN ACCUMULATION OF DEBRIS CAUSING RODENT HAR BRIDGE.

METAL ROOF IS BOWING.

METAL DOORS ARE NOT PROPERLY SECURED TO STRUCTURE AND IS OFF ITS RAILS.

ACCESSORY NUMBER TWO IS DETERIORATED AND CAUSING VANDALISM ALONG WITH RODENT HAR BRIDGE.

METAL ROOF IS BOWING SHED HAS DAMAGE TO FRONT AREA, ALLOWING ELEMENTS TO ENTER, EXCUSE ME, DOORS ARE NOT PROPERLY SECURED.

TO RECAP, THE STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 6 1 0 SAN JOAQUIN AVENUE IS IN VIOLATION OF CITY CODE ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER 6 1 5 6 SUBSECTION FOR THE MAIN 2, 5, 7, 8, 11, 12, AND 15.

AND FOR ACCESSORY NUMBER 1 2 5 7 8 11 12 15, ACCESSORY NUMBER 2, 2, 5, 7, 8, 11, 12, AND 15 IN WHICH ANY BUILDING OR STRUCTURE, WHICH HAS ANY OR OF ALL THE CONDITIONS OR DEFECTS HEREINAFTER DESCRIBED, SHALL BE DEEMED TO BE A DANGEROUS BUILDING AND A HAZARD TO PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE.

PROVIDED THAT SUCH CONDITIONS OF DEFECTS OR DILAPIDATION, SUBSTANDARD OR OF FITNESS FOR HUMAN HABITATION POSES A THREAT OR POTENTIAL THREAT TO LIFE, HEALTH, PROPERTY, OR HUMAN SAFETY STAFF RECOMMENDS DEMOLITION ALSO IN ORDER TO VACATE PROPERTY AND TO ALSO SECURE THE STRUCTURE.

THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION OF 6 1 0 SOUTH JOAQUIN.

SO DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE CODE OFFICER? YES, CHAIR.

I DO.

SO MS. STRAND, JUST GO AHEAD.

UM, THIS IS FRED ANDIS.

YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU DIDN'T GET AHOLD OF THE OWNER.

NO, NOT THE OWNERS, UH, REPRESENTATIVE OF THE OWNER, THE DAUGHTER.

UM, NO, IT WASN'T THE DAUGHTER.

IT WAS A MR. ALAMAN THAT'S STAYING AT THE STRUCTURE.

OKAY.

WELL ON THE 23RD, UH, I'M SORRY, 2 13, 20 23 OWNER'S DAUGHTER.

SO THAT IS CORRECT.

SO THIS CASE WAS INHERITED BY ANOTHER OKAY.

BY MY, MY MYSELF.

ANOTHER OFFICER MADE CONTACT WITH, UH, THE DAUGHTER.

2020 IS WHEN THE FIRE WAS BY THE, THE NOTES? YES.

OKAY.

SO YOU STARTED WORKING ON THIS AND WE HAVE NOTES AS OF 2023.

IS THERE ANYTHING PRIOR TO THAT THAT, LIKE PERMITS OR ANYTHING? NO.

SO THE ONLY GUY YOU GOT AHOLD OF AFTER THE DAUGHTER OR WHOEVER CONTACTED HER WAS THE GUY WHO WAS WORKING WITHOUT PERMITS? EXACTLY, YES SIR.

IS IS HE ONE OF THE ONES LIVING ON THE PROPERTY AS WELL? HE IS.

AND THEY'RE LIVING IN THE MAIN HOUSE.

THEY'RE LIVING IN THE MAIN HOUSE, CORRECT.

WITH THE CHAR THE ROOF AND EVERYTHING AS IS? THAT IS CORRECT.

AND YOU NOTICE A VACATE, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN THAT HOUSE? SO WE, WE RAN THE WARRANT.

THERE WAS APPROXIMATELY FOUR TO FIVE PEOPLE.

UM, ONLY TO MY UNDERSTANDING, ONLY ONE PERSON LIVES THERE.

UH, THE OTHER ONES WERE FRIENDS OF HIS THAT WERE STAYING THERE.

UH, WHEN WE RAN THE WARRANT, UH, ONE OF THE INDIVIDUALS WAS TAKEN IN FOR FELONIES.

AND SO NO ELECTRICAL? NO ELECTRICAL, NO WATER, NO WATER, GAS, NO GAS, NO KITS, NOTHING.

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AND, AND EXTENSION CORDS EVERYWHERE? YES, SIR.

THE, THE EXTENSION CORDS RUN OUT THROUGH THE WHOLE PROPERTY THERE ON THE INTERIOR, EVEN TO THE BACK TWO SHEDS OR NO, JUST TO THE INTERIOR.

TO THE MAIN HOUSE.

JUST THE MAIN HOUSE, YES, SIR.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

YES, SIR.

MR. ZUNIGA? YES.

UH, WHO IS, UH, LIO ALVAREZ? THAT IS THE PERSON THAT IS STAYING IN, IN THE LOCATION.

OKAY.

SO HE'S NOT THE OWNER THAT REJECTED ANY ASSISTANCE, RIGHT? NO, HE IS NOT THE OWNER.

HE IS THE OCCUPANT THAT STAYS THERE.

AND AT THAT TIME, YOU PLACED A NOTICE TO VACATE.

THAT WAS, UH, NOVEMBER 30TH.

NOTICE TO VACATE WAS PLACED ON NOVEMBER 21ST, 21ST, 23.

AND YOU WENT BACK AND THEY WERE STILL THERE AND, UH, THEY, THEY DIDN'T GET A PERMIT OR HE, OR THAT IS CORRECT.

I DID GO BACK TO MAKE, UH, AN ANOTHER INSPECTION, UH, TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON.

I DID NOTICE THAT HE WAS, HE HAD THE DOOR OPEN.

UM, I BELIEVE HE WAS EITHER PAINTING OR HE WAS DOING SOME KIND OF WORK INSIDE THE HOUSE.

SO I DID ASK HIM IF A PERMIT WAS OBTAINED.

UM, HE ADVISED THAT HE DID NOT GET ONE.

OKAY.

SO HE, THERE WAS ANOTHER VIOLATION THEN THAT YOU, UH, READ HIM UP ON? NO, SIR.

WE JUST TOLD HIM THAT, THAT WE CANNOT, WE'RE BE CONDUCTED.

THANK YOU.

MR. EN DO YOU HAVE A FOLLOW UP? YEAH, I DO.

UM, I AND I JUST SAW YOU MADE THE LOCATION WITH AN OFFICER AND A HOUSING UM, SERVICES PERSON, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT, YES.

OUR, OUR HOUSING NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, UH, THAT PROVIDES A PLACE FOR LOCATION.

DID ANYBODY TAKE THEM UP ON THAT OR THEY REFUSED? NO, THEY REFUSED.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU MAY BE SEATED.

GLENN GONZALEZ, PLEASE, IF YOU WOULD COME FORWARD TO STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR HOME ADDRESS, PLEASE? GLEN GONZALEZ.

AND, UH, RIGHT NOW I'M STAYING AT 9 4 4 SOUTH SAN JOAQUIN AVENUE.

THANK YOU.

AND YOUR TESTIMONY PLEASE? UH, UH, FROM THE, WHEN THE FIRE STARTED, UH, YOU KNOW, WE TRIED TO, WE HAD BOUGHT SOME STUFF, BUT, UH, I HAD GOT INCARCERATED MYSELF RIGHT, FOR THE, FOR THAT ISSUE.

BUT, UH, THE, THE CASE WAS, UH, DISMISSED.

UH, AND SO, UH, WE WERE SAVING UP MONEY AND WE BOUGHT SOME STUFF, BUT, UH, SOMEBODY HAD WENT INTO THE HOUSE AND THEY TOOK IT ALL.

SO I HAD TO START ALL OVER AS AGAIN, YOU KNOW.

AND, UH, I HAD TO TAKE A LEVO VASIN 'CAUSE I GOT SICK AND I JUST BARELY STARTED WORKING AGAIN.

AND I GOT A, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME MONEY PUT ASIDE, BUT NOT NOWHERE NEAR ENOUGH TO GET IT ALL FIXED IN ONE.

UH, UH, PRETTY QUICKLY THOUGH.

BUT, UH, AS FAR AS RIGHT NOW THE HOUSE DOESN'T LOOK NOTHING LIKE THAT THE WAY IT WAS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

AND, UH, MR. ALEMAN, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO THAT IS.

OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE? SO, SO ARE YOU A RENTER OR A NO, IT IS, UH, WHEN MY GRANDMA HAD PASSED AWAY, SHE HAD LEFT THE HOUSE TO US.

GRANDSON.

GRANDSON.

BUT YOU DON'T OWN THE HOUSE? NO, I DON'T OWN IT, NO MA'AM.

HAVE YOU, IS ANYONE GOING TO PROBATE? IS IT GOING THROUGH PROBATE COURT? UH, OR HAS, UH, WHAT IS WHAT? I DON'T KNOW.

UH, WHAT'S THAT? UM, HAS ANYONE ATTEMPTED TO CHANGE THE DEEDED OVER? UH, NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, SIR.

YOU MAY.

ALRIGHT.

UH, ROGELIO ALVAREZ, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME OVER AND STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE.

MY NAME IS ROGELIO ALVAREZ JR.

MY MAILING ADDRESS IS 3 34 BARB BUDDA.

THANK YOU.

AND YOUR TESTIMONY PLEASE? WELL, MOST OF THE PICTURES ARE NOT CORRECTLY DESCRIBED.

THEY'RE NOT IN THEIR RIGHT LOCATIONS.

MOST OF THE PICTURES THAT YOU SAW WERE EITHER IN THE FRONT ROOM THAT WE ARE USING, THAT WE'RE USING AS STORAGE.

AND THEN THE BURN START IS LIKE THE ADDITION THAT WAS MADE SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

SO THE MAIN HOUSE IS NOT REALLY DAMAGED, BUT THE PICTURES ARE A REPRESENTATIVE OF, I MEAN, THEY'RE ACTUALLY OF THE PROPERTY ITSELF.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ANYTHING ELSE SIR? NO.

DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YES.

MR. , GO AHEAD.

WHAT IS THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN YOU AND THE PROPERTY OWNER? I'M A GRANDSON AS WELL.

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YOU, YOU'RE THE GRANDSON.

ARE YOU LIVING THERE? YES.

THANK YOU, MS. MIRANDA, YOU HAVE A QUESTION? UH, THAT WAS MY QUESTION WAS WHAT WAS THE RELATIONSHIP? UM, BUT YOU ARE ROGELIO EZ? YES.

YOU'RE THE ONE THAT IS LISTED IN THE, THE DOCUMENTS HERE? YES.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, SIR.

YOU MAY BE SEATED.

CHAIR WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

MS. BROWN? YES.

I WILL ENTERTAIN THIS MOTION.

UM, OKAY.

UH, I FIND THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT, UM, SIX 10 SAN MARQUIN, I THINK.

YEAH, SAN MARQUIN.

UH, I FIND IT TO BE A DANGEROUS STRUCTURE.

UH, I FIND IT TO BE A DANGEROUS STRUCTURE AND, UM, AND NOT FEASIBLE FOR REPAIR AT THIS TIME.

AND ORDER A 30 DAY DEMO AND VACATE AND MAKE SURE THE PROPERTY IS SECURED AND, UM, AND DISCONNECTION OF THE GENERATOR.

I THINK THAT'S IT.

THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS THAT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT SIX 10, UH, SOUTH SAN JOAQUIN AVENUE IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE AND IS NOT FEASIBLE BEING REPAIRED AT THIS TIME.

IT IS IN VIOLATION OF CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION 1 56, SUB CODES TO ALL THREE STRUCTURES BEING THE SAME.

2, 5, 7, 8, 11, 12, AND 13.

THAT THE BUILDING BE DEMOLISHED IN 30 DAYS.

THE BUILDING BE VACATED AND THAT THE, UH, SER ELECTRICAL SERVICES FROM THE GENERATOR BE DISCONNECTED.

UH, DO I HAVE A SECOND? CAN I, CAN I ADD SOMETHING ELSE, SIR? THAT WOULD BE IMPROPER.

YOU CAN SPEAK TO THE CODE OFFICER.

THE CODE OFFICIAL MOTION IS MADE.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

MR. ANDES SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? DO WE HAVE A SECURE YES, YOU HAD THAT.

I I I ACTUALLY, I DID NOT STATE THAT, BUT THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT WOULD BE SECURE.

MS. BROWN, DID YOU STATE THAT? I MISSED IT.

I APOLOGIZE.

UH, SECURE IS TO BE ADDED TO THE MOTION GENERATOR.

DISCONNECTED AND VACATE AND 30 DAY DEMO DEMOLITION A UH, LET'S DO A ROLL CALL ON IT PLEASE.

DWAYNE NELSON.

AYE.

RED ANDIS? AYE.

KAYLA MIRANDA.

AYE.

MS. BROWN? AYE.

JOELLE SOLIS AYE.

DR.

ERLIN LOPEZ RODRIGUEZ.

AYE.

JESSE ZUNIGA I CONCUR WITH THE FINANCE EFFECT.

MOTION PASSES WITH THE VOTE OF 7 2 0.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OUR NEXT CASE IS GOING TO BE THANK YOU.

7 9 2 7 HOBBLE STREET.

COUNSEL, DO WE NEED A SHORT RECESS? YEAH.

UH, THE BOARD, EXCUSE ME.

IT IS.

GOT IT.

THE TIME IS NOW 1107.

UH, WE'RE GONNA TAKE A TWO MINUTE RECESS IN PLACE UNLESS YOU NEED TO USE THE FACILITIES.

COOL.

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TIME IS NOW.

I'M SORRY, THE TIME IS NOW 1110.

YOU STEAL MY LETTER.

WE'LL RECONVENE THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD AND THE CASE WE'RE GOING TO HEAR NOW.

6 22 SOUTH ST.

GABRIEL AVENUE.

IF YOU WOULD PLEASE GO AHEAD BEFORE THEY DO SOMETHING ELSE TO ME.

? YES SIR.

.

WELL GOOD MORNING BOARD.

MORNING.

MORNING FOR THE RECORD.

MY NAME IS STEPHANIE SANCHEZ, DANGERS PREMISES OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

THE STRUCTURE BEING PRESENTED TODAY IS LOCATED AT 6 2 2 SOUTH SAN GABRIELLE AVENUE WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR DEMOLITION IN ACCORDANCE WITH CITY CODE ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER SIX.

THIS CASE IS THE FIRST TIME BEING HEARD BEFORE THIS BOARD.

THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION IS NCB 8 6 6 1 BLOCK 14, LOT 11 AND 12 LOCATED IN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT FIVE.

THE OWNER ON RECORD IS MARTINEZ, JUAN AND ADELA WITH A MAILING ADDRESS OF 6 2 6 2 2 SOUTH SIGN, GABRIELLE AVENUE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 3 7.

ALL NOTICES OF HEARING WERE PROPERLY ISSUED AS REQUIRED.

THE OWNER ON RECORD IS NOT PRESENT TODAY.

DOES THE BOARD WISH TO PROCEED? YES, PLEASE.

CONTACT HAS BEEN MADE WITH A MR. RALPH MARTINEZ, SON OF THE DECEASED OWNER.

THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION HAS CONFIRMED ON SEPTEMBER 9TH, 2023.

THE PROPERTY IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR HISTORIC DESIGNATION.

THE FIRST INSPECTION REGARDING 6 2 2 SOUTH SAN GABRIELLE AVENUE WAS CONDUCTED ON AUGUST 11TH, 2022.

THE ORIGINAL NOTICE WAS MAILED ON SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2022

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AND THE CERTIFIED RE RECEIPT WAS RETURNED UNCLAIMED ON SEPTEMBER 29TH, 2022 ON NOVEMBER 14TH, 2023 AN AN ADMINISTRATIVE WARRANT WAS EXECUTED TO OBTAIN INTERIOR PHOTOS THAT ARE BEING PRESENTED TODAY ON NOVEMBER 29TH.

THE NOTICE FOR THE BSB HEARING WAS MAILED TO RE THE REGISTERED OWNER AND THE CERTIFIED WAS A RECEIPT WAS RETURNED UNCLAIMED ON NOVEMBER 30TH, 2023.

THE NOTICE FOR THE BSB HEARING WAS POSTED AT 6 2 2 SOUTH SAN GABRIELLE AVENUE.

AT THIS TIME, NO SCOPE OF WORK.

FINANCIAL PROOF LETTER OF CREDIT OR ENGINEER'S REPORT HAS BEEN PROVIDED AS OF DECEMBER 13TH, 2023.

THERE ARE NO PERMITS ON FILE FOR 6 2 2 SOUTH SAN GABRIEL.

THE PHOTOS THAT ARE BEING PRESENTED TODAY WERE TAKEN ON NOVEMBER 14TH AND DECEMBER 7TH, 2023.

HERE WE HAVE THE FRONT ELEVATION OF THE STRUCTURE.

AS YOU CAN SEE JUST FROM THE ROOF LINE YOU SEE DETERIORATION TO THE OVERHANG AND TWO PARTS OF THE ROOF COVERING THE FRONT PORCH.

POSTS ARE LEANING OR HAVE BEEN SHIMMIED OR PLACED, UM, CINDER BLOCKS TO HELP WITH SUPPORTING THE STRUCTURE.

YOU CAN ALSO SEE TOWARDS THE MIDDLE OF THE, THE WINDOW ON THE BOTTOM THERE IS A POST THAT IS LEANING AS WELL.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

THIS IS A CLOSEUP OF THE, OF THE LEFT PORTION OF THE FOUNDATION.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THE BEAMS ARE TWISTING AND OR ON GRADE.

YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE SEPARATION TO THE TRIM THAT HAS BEEN SEPARATED FROM THE WALL, ALLOWING FOR THE ELEMENTS AND, UM, INFESTATION TO ENTER .

HERE IS THE LEFT ELEVATION OF THE STRUCTURE.

YOU CAN SEE THE SEVERE DAMAGE, WATER DAMAGE TO THE ROOF.

YOU SEE THE RIDGE BOARD IS STARTING TO BOW INWARD AND IS SAGGING.

THE ROOF COVERING IS LACKING PROTECTION.

NO SHINGLES OR ANYTHING ARE PRESENT AT THIS TIME.

YOU ALSO SEE UM, LACK OF WEATHER PROTECTION AND DAMAGE TO THE WOOD SIDING AS WELL AS, UH, MISSING SIDING ON THE LEFT ADDITION THAT HAS BEEN THERE AS WELL.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

THIS IS A CLOSEUP OF THE FOUNDATION.

YOU CAN SEE THE FLOOR JOISTS THAT ARE RUNNING ACROSS ARE ROTTING AND STARTING TO SPLIT AS WELL AS THE DIP TOWARDS THE CENTER OF IT THAT IS CAUSING THE FOUNDATION TO SAG.

AND ON THE INTERIOR YOU ALSO SEE THE WOOD BEAM THAT IS TWISTING, THAT IS STARTING TO FALL OFF OF THE POST AS WELL.

NEXT THING HERE IS THE REAR ELEVATION TOWARDS THE LEFT HAND SIDE.

IF YOU LOOK FOR THE LEFT ELEVATION WALL, YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE IT STARTING TO BOW OUTWARD.

YOU ALSO SEE, UM, SEPARATION AND MISSING SIDING.

THE DETERIORATION TO THE ROOF, THERE IS A LITTLE, UM, COVER IN THE BACK.

YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE POST THAT IS RIGHT THERE IS, UM, THE, THE CEILING JOIST IS ACTUALLY, UM, STARTING TO FALL OFF OF THAT POST ON THE CORNER.

THIS IS THE RIGHT ELEVATION.

YOU CAN CONTINUE TO SEE THE SEVERE SAG INTO THE ROOF.

THE, THEY HAVE PLACED A MOISTURE BARRIER TO REPLACE THE MIS TO COVER THE MISSING SIDING THAT IS DAMAGED AS WELL.

NEXT SLIDE.

THIS IS ENTERING THE PROPERTY FROM THE FRONT DOOR.

YOU CAN SEE THE SPLIT BEAM, THE ROTTING BEAM, AND THE SHIFTING TO THE FOUNDATION.

THERE IS ALSO NO APPROACH FOR CONCERNS OF INGRESS AND INGRESS CONCERNS AS WELL.

THIS IS ENTERING THE STRUCTURE.

YOU CAN SEE ALL THE DEBRIS THAT HAS BEEN PLACED AROUND FROM VAS ENTERING AND EXITING THE PROPERTY.

THIS IS THE CONDITION OF TO THE ROOF DECKING, THE SEVERE WATER DAMAGE AND ROTTING.

THIS IS THAT FRONT CORNER WHERE THE LEFT ELEVATION WALL IS STARTING TO SPLIT.

YOU CAN SEE ALL THE WATER DAMAGE THAT HAS ENTERING FROM THE PAINT BUMBLING AND THE CEILING, UM, BEING EXPOSED FROM THE DROP SHEET, THE DROP DRYWALL.

NEXT SLIDE HERE IS THAT PORTION OF WHERE THE WALL IS SEPARATING.

YOU CAN SEE THE DATE, THE SUNLIGHT THAT IS ENTERING THE STRUCTURE.

THIS IS THE CENTER PORTION CLOSEST TO THE LEFT ELEVATION OF THE STRUCTURE.

THIS IS WHAT IS KNOWN AS THE KITCHEN.

UM, AGAIN, WE HAVE SOME OF THAT MOISTURE BARRIER PANELING THAT THEY HAVE ATTACHED TO THE CEILING TO TRY TO MAKE REPAIRS AT SOME POINT OR ANOTHER.

UM, YOU ALSO SEE SEVERE WATER DAMAGE TO THE WALLS AS WELL AS EXPOSED, UM, WALL STUDS FROM MISSING DRYWALL.

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THIS IS A WINDOW FROM THE RIGHT ELEVATION SIDE.

UM, YOU COULD SEE THERE IS A SAG IN THE CEILING AS WELL AS THE SHIFTING OF THE WINDOW FRAME.

THIS IS TOWARDS THE REAR PORTION OF OF THE STRUCTURE.

UM, YOU CAN SEE THE SEVERE WATER DAMAGE TO THE DECKING AND TO THE CEILING JOISTS, I'M SORRY, THE RAFTERS AS WELL AS THE DAMAGED UM, WATER DAMAGE TO THE WALL STUSS.

NEXT SLIDE.

THIS IS THE BATHROOM THAT IS IN THERE.

THERE IS SHIFTING TO THE FOUNDATION AS WELL AS ALL THE DEBRIS.

I COULD NOT GET TOO CLOSE TO IT.

UM, BUT THERE IS A STEP AND YOU CAN SEE THE TOILET, UM, LEANING A LITTLE BIT DUE TO THE FOUNDATION SHIFTING.

THIS IS THE EXPOSED SUBFLOORING.

UM, THERE IS A LOT OF PORTIONS WHERE THE FLOOR COVERING IS MISSING.

YOU CAN SEE THE WATER DAMAGE, THE ROTTING AND THE DETERIORATION TO IT.

ALSO BEING ABLE TO, UM, GET ELEMENTS, AIR OR UM, INSECTS THAT ARE ABLE TO ENTER DUE TO THE SEPARATION IN THE FLOOR.

THIS IS A PHOTO OF SOME NEEDLES THAT WERE LOCATED ON THE INSIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

THE BUILDING IS A SINGLE STORY, WOOD FRAME RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE WITH WOOD SIDING AND A GABLE ROOF WITH ASPHALT SINGLE COVERING ON A POST AND BEAM FOUNDATION.

ALL THREE MAJOR COMPONENTS ARE COMPROMISED.

THE FOUNDATION HAS SHIFTED WITH POST LEANING AND BEAMS THAT ARE TWISTING, LACKING SUPPORT AND ROTTING FLOOR JOISTS OR TWISTING AND ROTTING, CAUSING UNEVEN INTERIOR FLOORING.

THE EXTERIOR WALLS HAVE MISSING AND DAMAGED WOOD SIDING, LACKING WEATHER PROTECTION AND THE RIGHT ELEVATION WALL IS BOWING OUT.

THE ROOF SYSTEM IS SAGGING AND HAS HOLES DAMAGED, SHINGLE COVERING AND THE DECKING HAS WATER DAMAGE.

THE INTERIOR, DRYWALL AND FLOOR COVERING IS MISSING AND DAMAGED WITH DEBRIS SCATTERED THROUGHOUT.

TO RECAP, THE STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 6 2 2 SOUTH SAN GABRIELLE AVENUE IS IN VIOLATION OF CITY CODE ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER SIX DASH 1 56.

SUBSECTIONS 1 2 5 7 8, 12, 15, 17 AND 18 IN WHICH ANY BUILDING OR STRUCTURE WHICH HAS ANY OR ALL CONDITIONS OF DEFECTS HEREIN DESCRIBED SHALL BE DEEMED TO BE A DANGEROUS BUILDING AND A HAZARD TO PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE.

PROVIDED THAT SUCH CONDITIONS OF DEFECTS AND DILAPIDATION, SUBSTANDARD OR UNFITNESS FOR HUMAN HABITATION POSE A THREAT OR POTENTIAL THREAT TO LIFE, HEALTH, PROPERTY OR HUMAN SAFETY STAFF RECOMMENDS DEMOLITION.

THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION FOR 6 2 2 SOUTH SAN GABRIELLE AVENUE.

SO THANK YOU.

QUESTIONS WITH THE CODE OFFICER.

SO MR. ZINGA, WHO, WHO INHERITED THE PROPERTY AT THIS TIME? THERE ARE A FEW CHILDREN.

UM, I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH ONE.

UM, HE WOULD LIKE THE PROPERTY DEMOLISHED BUT THEY HAVE NOT GONE THROUGH PROBATE TO BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

YEAH, THAT WAS MY SECOND QUESTION 'CAUSE HE SPOKE TO THE, UH, DECEASED SON AND HE SAID HE WANTED TO DEMOLISH HIM.

CORRECT.

BUT HE HAD, HE DOESN'T HAVE A, AN EXACT NO SIR.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

YOU MAY BE SEATED.

THANK YOU.

CHAIR WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I MAKE A MOTION.

GO AHEAD.

I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 6 22 SUN SOUTH SAN GABRIELLE AVENUE, UM, IS A PUBLIC USAGE WHICH IS NOT FEASIBLE FOR REPAIR AT THIS TIME AND IS IN VIOLATION OF CHAPTER SIX.

ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION 1 56, UM, SUB CODE 1 2 5 7 8 12 15 17 18.

I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY BE DEMOLISHED WITHIN 30 DAYS FROM THE ISSUANCE OF THIS ORDER AND BE SECURED, UM, AND FREE OF TRASH AND DEBRIS.

I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THE LAST PORTION OF IT? TRY ON THE TRASH.

UM, BE FREE OF TRASH AND DEBRIS.

BE FREE OF TRASH AND DEBRIS.

THANK YOU.

THE MOTION ON THE UH, BOARD IS THAT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 6 22 SOUTH SAN GABRIEL IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE.

IT IS NOT FEASIBLE BEING REPAIRED AS IN VIOLATION OF CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION 1 5 6 SUB CODES 1, 2, 5, 7, 8, 12, 15, 17, AND 18.

THAT THE BUILDING SHOULD BE DEMOLISHED IN 30 DAYS.

SECURED AND TRASH UH, ELIMINATED.

ANY I SECOND AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION?

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ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED NAYYY.

THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

AND OUR FINAL PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE 7 9 2 7 HOBBLE STREET.

FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS JOHN GARZA, DANGEROUS PREMISE OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

THE STRUCTURE BEING PRESENTED TODAY IS LOCATED AT 79 27 HOBBLE STREET WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR DEMOLITION IN ACCORDANCE WITH CITY.

ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER SIX.

THIS CASE IS THE FIRST TIME BEING HEARD.

THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION IS NCB 1 5 4 8 4 BLOCK 0 5 0 LOT EIGHT LOCATED IN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT FOUR.

THE OWNER ON RECORD IS DELL L AND LINDA KIF WITH A MAILING ADDRESS OF 7 9 2 7 HOBBLE STREET.

ALL NOTICES OF HEARING WERE PROPERLY ISSUED AS REQUIRED.

THE OWNERS ARE NOT PRESENT TODAY.

DOES THE BOARD WISH TO PROCEED? WE DO.

PLEASE.

THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION HAS CONFIRMED ON JUNE 6TH, 2023.

THE PROPERTY IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR HISTORIC DESIGNATION.

THE FOLLOWING IS A TIMELINE OF EVENTS REGARDING THE NOTIFICATION PROCESS.

THE FIRST INSPECTION REGARDING 79 27 HOBBLE STREET WAS CONDUCTED ON APRIL 10TH, 2022.

THE ORIGINAL NOTICE WAS MAILED ON APRIL 18TH, 2023 AND THE CERTIFIED NOTICE WAS RETURNED ON MAY 10TH, 2023 ON NOVEMBER 30TH, 2023.

THE NOTICE FOR BSB HEARING WAS POSTED AT 79 27 HOBBLE STREET ON NOVEMBER 29TH, 2023.

THE NOTICE FOR BSB HEARING WAS MAILED TO OWNER AND THE CERTIFIED RECEIPT HAS NOT RETURNED.

NO SCOPE OF WORK OR FINANCIAL PROOF OR LETTER OF CREDIT OR ENGINEER'S REPORT HAS BEEN PROVIDED.

THERE ARE NO CURRENT PER NO CURRENT PERMITS ON FILE FOR THIS LOCATION.

THE PHOTO, THE PHOTOS BEING PRESENTED TODAY WERE TAKEN ON NOVEMBER 14TH, 2023.

THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION OF THE STRUCTURE.

THE STRUCTURE WAS INVOLVED IN A FIRE IN APRIL OF 2022.

MOST OF THE DAMAGE WAS TOWARDS THE REAR ELEVATION.

IT SUSTAINED HEAVY DAMAGE TO THE STRUCTURE.

NEXT PHOTO PLEASE.

THIS IS A PHOTO OF THE ROOF AREA.

THERE'S A LARGE HOLE ON THE ROOF, WHICH IS ALLOWING THE ELEMENTS TO ENTER.

NEXT PHOTO.

THIS IS GONNA BE THE REAR ELEVATION OF THE STRUCTURE.

AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT, LEFT ELEVATION.

THE STRUCTURE SUFFERED HEAVY DAMAGE AND IT'S OPEN TO THE ELEMENTS.

NEXT PHOTO.

AS YOU CAN SEE, IT SUFFERED SEVERE DAMAGE.

THERE'S AN AWNING THERE THAT COLLAPSE AND IT'S UNSECURED AND THE WOOD MEMBERS ARE EXPOSED.

THE STUDS AND THE CEILING JOISTS ARE ALL VISIBLE.

NEXT PHOTO, THERE'S CLOSER LOOK OF THE AWNING THAT COLLAPSED.

NEXT PHOTO HERE WE SEE THE ROOF AREA WHERE THERE'S SEVERE DAMAGE TO THE ROOF, WHERE THE CEILING JOISTS AND THE D ROOF DECKING IS EXPOSED.

NEXT PHOTO, THIS IS GONNA BE THE RIGHT ELEVATION IF YOU'RE LOOKING TOWARD ON THE FRONT.

IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE HOUSE, IT'S GONNA BE THE RIGHT ELEVATION.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THE OVERHANG AND THE SIDE OF THE STRUCTURE IS MISSING.

THE WALL STUSS ARE EXPOSED AND IS OPEN TO THE ELEMENTS.

IT'S ALSO DETERIORATING.

NEXT PHOTO.

THIS IS GONNA BE THE FRONT LIVING ROOM AREA.

UH, THE LOCATION SUFFERED HEAVY SMOKE DAMAGE.

UH, THERE'S TRASH, DEBRIS, DEBRIS ALL OVER THE PLACE, WHICH IS COMPROMISING EGRESS.

NEXT PHOTO.

THIS IS JUST A PHOTO OF THE COMPROMISE EGRESS.

THIS IS GONNA BE THE HALLWAY THAT LEADS FROM THE KITCHEN TO THE LIVING ROOM.

NEXT PHOTO.

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ONCE AGAIN, ANOTHER PHOTO OF ALL THE DEBRIS THAT'S COMPROMISING THE EGRESS.

NEXT PHOTO.

THIS IS GONNA BE A REAR BEDROOM ON THE RIGHT ELEVATION.

THE SHEET ROCK HAS COLLAPSED FROM THE FIRE.

THE WALL STARS ARE EXPOSED.

YOU HAVE TRASH AND DEBRIS.

UH, THE CEILING JOISTS ARE EXPOSED AND IT'S OPEN TO THE ELEMENTS OF DETERIORATING.

THIS IS A HALLWAY THAT LEADS TO THE REAR BEDROOM, UH, TO THE REAR OF THE STRUCTURE.

THE CEILING JOISTS, THE WOOD DECKING AND THE RAFTERS ARE ALL, UH, DETERIORATED AND HAS SUFFERED SEVERE DAMAGE FROM THE FIRE.

NEXT PHOTO.

THIS IS ANOTHER PHOTO OF THE SAME AREA JUST SHOWING THE COMPROMISE OF THE EGRESS.

NEXT PHOTO.

THIS IS ANOTHER BEDROOM.

UH, THE SAME BEDROOM JUST SHOWING THE CEILING JOISTS, UM, AND THE RAFTERS THAT ARE DETERIORATED FROM THE ELEMENTS ENTERING THE LOCATION.

THERE'S GONNA BE A, A SEPARATE BEDROOM TOWARDS THE REAR ELEVATION OF THE STRUCTURE.

THE ENTIRE ROOF AREA IS NON-EXISTENCE.

THE RAFTERS, THE CEILING JOISTS, AND THE WOOD DECKING ARE ALL GONE FROM THE FIRE.

IT'S OPEN TO ELEMENT AND THERE HAS BEEN SIGNS OF VAGRANCY GOING ON.

UH, ALSO THERE HAS BEEN SIGNS OF, I GUESS, P UH, VAGRANT STAYING AT THE LOCATION.

NEXT PHOTO.

THIS IS THE, UH, SAME AREA, THE BEDROOM.

THIS IS THE, UH, CEILING AREA.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THE THE RIDGE BOARD, THAT'S A RIDGE BOARD PART THAT'S HANGING FROM THE FIRE DAMAGE.

NEXT PHOTO, SAME AREA, JUST SHOWING A DIFFERENT ELEVATION.

ALL THE WALLS HAVE BEEN COMPROMISED.

THERE'S NO STRUCTURE, UH, TO THE WALLS THERE.

ALL THE STUDS HAVE BEEN BURNED OUT, AND IT'S OPEN TO ELEMENTS, TRASH, DEBRIS ALL OVER THE PLACE.

NEXT PHOTO.

THE STRUCTURE HAS A SMALL ACCESSORY STRUCTURE ON THE LEFT ELEVATION.

THE DOORS ARE OPEN, THEY'RE COMPROMISED, THEY'RE NOT ON THEIR RAILS, AND IT'S OPEN FOR ANCY.

NEXT PHOTO.

THE WALL, UH, THE ROOF AREA OF THE SMALL ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IS DETERIORATING, HAS HOLES, AND IS ALSO ALLOWING THE ELEMENTS TO ENTER, CAUSING FURTHER DAMAGE.

NEXT PHOTO.

YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT THE DOORS ARE NOT PROPER RAILS.

NEXT PHOTO.

THIS IS INSIDE THE LITTLE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.

TRASH AND DEBRIS SCATTERED ALL OVER.

IT'S NOT BEING USED PROPERLY, WHAT IT WAS MADE FOR, AND THERE'S ALSO SIGNS OF VAGRANCY GOING ON.

NEXT PHOTO, ALSO, THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE SHOWS DAMAGE, UH, WATER DAMAGE ON THE LEFT HAND CORNER OF THE STRUCTURE.

UH, THE METAL'S DETERIORATING AND STARTING TO FALL APART.

NEXT PHOTO, 79 27.

HOBBLE STREET IS A 9,240 SQUARE FEET.

SINGLE STORY STRUCTURE BUILT IN 1990 WITH A GABLE ASPHALT SHINGLE ROOF SYSTEM.

FIRE OCCURRED AT THE LOCATION ON APRIL 10TH, 2023, CAUSING EXCESSIVE DAMAGE TO THE ROOF AND REAR ELEVATION OF THE LOCATION.

INTERIOR WALLS, CEILING, JOSS RAFTERS AND DECKINGS OF THE RIGHT REAR ELEVATION ARE DAMAGED OR NON-EXISTENCE.

THE ENTIRE BACK AREA OF THE STRUCTURE ROOF SYSTEM IS OPEN TO ELEMENTS.

THE INTERIOR WALLS OF THE STRUCTURE ARE ALSO DAMAGED, ALSO EXPOSING WALL STUDS TO THE ELEMENTS WHICH ARE NOW DETERIORATING.

EGRESS IN THE HALLWAY AND FRONT AREA LIVING ROOM HAS BEEN COMPROMISED.

SMALL ACCESSORY STRUCTURE LOCATED IN THE LEFT SIDE YARD IS A 10 BY EIGHT METAL SHED, WHICH IS DETERIORATED AND RUSTED DOORS ARE IN NON-WORKING CONDITION AND OFF THEIR RAILS, WHICH IS ALLOWING ELEMENTS TO ENTER THE SHED AND CAUSING DAMAGE.

ALSO, ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IS NOT BEING UTILIZED FOR WHAT IT WAS MANUFACTURED FOR AND ATTRACTIVE, ATTRACTIVE VANDALISM.

TO RECAP THE STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 79 27 HOBBLE IS IN VIOLATION OF CITY CODE ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER 6, 1 5 6 SUBSECTION FOR THE MAIN 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 8, 11, 12, 15, 17, AND

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18.

AND FOR THE ACCESSORY, 1, 2, 7, 8, 11, 12, 15, AND 17, IN WHICH ANY BUILDING OR STRUCTURE, WHICH HAS ANY OR ALL OF THE CONDITIONS OR DEFECTS HEARING AFTER DESCRIBED, SHALL BE DEEMED TO BE A DANGEROUS BUILDING AND A HAZARD TO PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE.

PROVIDED THAT SUCH CONDITIONS OF DEFECTS OF DILAPIDATED, SUBSTANDARD, OR UNFITNESS FOR HUMAN HABITATION POSES A THREAT OR POTENTIAL THREAT TO LIFE, HEALTH, PROPERTY, OR HUMAN SAFETY STAFF RECOMMENDED RECOMMENDS DEMOLITION.

THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION OF 7 9 27 HOBBLE STREET.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION TO THE CODE OFFICER? SO DO YOU, MR. ZENGA, GO AHEAD.

SO THE OWNERS ARE THE SAME PEOPLE THAT ARE SAID HERE, CALL, UH, DAVID AND LINDA.

SO, KF? YEAH.

KDE.

YES, SIR.

SO THEY, THEY HAVEN'T RESPONDED.

THEY'RE BOTH DECEASED.

OH.

SO WHO'S THE EXECUTIVE OWNER HAVE YOU CONTACTED THERE? NOBODY HAS APPROACHED, UH, TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS STRUCTURE, SIR.

OH, OKAY.

HOW, HOW COME IT DIDN'T GO TO EMERGENCY? UH, DID IT, IT, UH, DIDN'T MEET THE STANDARDS.

THE CHIEF BUILDING INSPECTOR WAS CONTACTED TO GO OUT THERE.

HE DID, UM, ASSESS IT, AND HE DECLARED THAT IT WAS NOT AN EMERGENCY.

THE OCCUPANT, UH, MS. HOLIES, IS SHE STILL OCCUPYING THE, THE RESIDENCE? MS. ALANIS, MS. ALANIS WAS A, THE GIRLFRIEND OF MR. MR. KIFF.

HE PASSED AWAY.

SHE WAS STAYING AT THE RESIDENCE.

HE PASSED AWAY.

SHE CONTINUED STAYING AT THE RESIDENCE, AND THAT'S WHEN THE FIRE HAD OCCURRED.

SHE'S NOT THERE NO MORE.

NO.

NO, SIR.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

YOU MAY BE SEATED.

CHAIR WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

UH, I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 79 27 HOBBLE STREET IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE, WHICH IS NOT FEASIBLE TO BE REPAIRED AT THIS TIME, AND IS A VIOLATION FOR THE MAIN STRUCTURE OF CHAPTER SIX ARTICLES.

EIGHT SECTION 1 56 SECTIONS 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 8, 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18.

AND FOR THE ACCESSORY VIOLATION OF SECTIONS 1, 2, 7, 8, 11, 12, 15, AND 17, UH, ASK YOU FOR A 30 DAY DEMO AND TO SECURE THE PROPERTY, UM, WE CAN ASK FOR SECURE THE PROPERTY, BUT BECAUSE OF THE DAMAGE TO THE FIRE, IT'S GONNA BE REAL DIFFICULT TO SECURE.

DO YOU WANNA LEAVE THAT IN? I AM A LITTLE BIT WORRIED ABOUT THAT.

THAT'S FINE.

THAT'S FINE.

IT JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT, IT'S NOT GONNA BE BOARDING UP THE, THE, THE WINDOW.

YOU'D BE BOARDING UP THE WHOLE HOUSE.

YEAH.

IS THERE A WAY TO SECURE IT WITH, WITH SECURITY FENCE OR NO? MM-HMM.

UH, THAT YOU MIGHT DO, BUT YOU HAVE TO SPECIFY FENCE PERIMETER, SECURITY FENCE.

SO LET'S DO A SECURITY FENCE.

SO THE MOTION IS FOR THE MOTION ON, UH, THE TABLE IS THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 79 27 HOBBLE STREET IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE AND IS NOT FEASIBLE TO BEING REPAIRED AT THIS TIME, AND IS IN VIOLATION OF CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION 1 5 6 SUBCODES FOR THE MAIN 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 8, 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18.

AND FOR THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE, 1, 2, 7, 8, 11, 12, 15, AND 17, THAT THE PROPERTY IS TO BE DEMOLISHED IN 30 DAYS WITH A SECURITY FENCE AROUND THE PROPERTY.

UH, I SECOND, SECOND.

MOTION MADE ALREADY.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAYYY.

MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

ANY ADMINISTRATIVE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE? YES.

QUESTION.

GO AHEAD.

UH, TO STAFF.

WHEN DO YOU PUT THE PLA CART ON? THAT? UH, IT'S GOING TO BE DEMOLISHED BY THE CITY.

THE PLA DO YOU PLACE IT AFTER, OR NOW YOU, YOU DIDN'T REPLACE IT? WE DON'T HAVE A PLA WE DON'T HAVE A PLACARD.

I'M NOT SURE WHICH ONE, WHAT PLACARD YOU'RE REFERRING TO, SIR.

OH, THE, THE ONES THAT ARE, UH, RE REPORTED HERE ON THE UDC.

OH, NO.

OKAY.

THAT'S, THAT'S

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OKAY.

YEAH, BECAUSE I WAS READING ON IT THE OTHER NIGHT AND, UH, I WAS JUST WONDERING, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

BUT I'LL BE READING AGAIN TO SEE WHAT I, ANY OTHER ADMINISTRATIVE ISSUES TO BE BROUGHT.

THIS IS, THIS IS LEGAL.

LEGAL.

GO AHEAD.

I, I, I DID WANT TO ADDRESS OR AT LEAST, UH, SHOW CONCERN FOR, UH, SOMETHING THAT MR. ZUNIGA STATED IN REGARDS TO, UH, NO, IN REGARDS TO THE DEMOLITION.

I WANNA SAY DURING, UM, THE ORDER FOR EITHER IT WAS JOAQUIN OR SOUTH CROSS, HE WAS ASKING IN REGARDS TO, I THINK HE USED 1 58.

YEAH, THAT WAS SOUTH CROSS.

SOUTH CROSS.

YEAH, THAT WAS MINE WHEN HE AMENDMENT.

OKAY.

SO I, WHAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU GUYS UNDER UNDERSTOOD IF THERE'S A, UM, A PROPERTY THAT IS GIVEN A REPAIR ORDER, BUT THAT REPAIR ORDER IS A LONGER REPAIR ORDER.

THERE ARE CERTAIN, BECAUSE WHEN HE, WAS IT 1 58 THAT YOU MENTIONED? I DON'T, 1 59.

I THINK IT WAS, I THINK HE STATED 1 59 SOMETHING.

OKAY.

OKAY.

GO AHEAD.

EXCUSE ME.

IT WAS IN REGARDS TO GIVING THEM AN ADDITIONAL 90 DAYS.

OKAY.

THAT'S, THAT IS WHAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE.

WELL, I, THE REASON I, THE REASON I SAY THAT IS BECAUSE THAT WAS STATUTORY LIMITS ON DEMOLITION TIME.

I DO WANNA MAKE SURE YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND, UM, WHEN A BOARD, WHEN THIS BOARD GIVES AN ORDER, IT'S NOT GONNA BE AN OR ELSE.

UM, I KNOW THAT THAT ISSUE HAS COME UP IN THE PAST.

IF YOU'VE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH, IT'S COME UP IN THE PAST, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO AN OR ELSE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

YOU KNOW, EITHER REPAIR THE PROPERTY OR IT GETS DEMOLISHED.

UM, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THE BOARD UNDERSTANDS THAT.

I WASN'T SAYING THAT MR. ZUNIGA WAS STATING THAT, UM, BUT, UM, WHEN HE REFERENCED, UM, 1 63, I WANTED TO JUST MAKE SURE, OKAY.

YES.

YOU GIVE HIM THE 30 DAYS.

OKAY.

UH, ONCE IT STARTS HERE AND, AND EVEN ON, YOU KNOW, THE CALENDAR DAYS AND THEN AFTER THEIR NOTICE, THEY, THEY HAVE UP TO 90 DAYS TO REPAIR GOING THROUGH THE, WE CAN PUT 30, NO, SIR.

THAT I, I WANNA MAKE SURE WE CLEAR.

BSB MAY NOT ALLOW AN OWNER, LIEN OWNER OR MORTGAGER MORE THAN 90 DAYS TO REPAIR, MOVE, OR DEMOLISH A BUILDING OR FULLY PERFORM ALL WORK REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH THE ORDER UNLESS THEY SUBMIT A DETAILED PLAN.

OKAY? RIGHT.

SO WHAT I'M STATING TO YOU IS THAT'S FOR, THAT'S FOR EITHER IT'S GOING TO BE REPAIRED OR IT'S GOING TO BE DEMOED.

IF YOU'RE GONNA GIVE MORE THAN 90 DAYS, HOLD ON.

I'M JUST, I'M, I'M, ALL I'M DOING IS READING IT.

IF YOU'RE GONNA GIVE MORE THAN 90 DAYS RIGHT? IT'S NOT, OR IN LIEU OF YOU GIVE A REPAIR ORDER AND OR YOU GIVE A DEMO ORDER, BUT THEN WITHIN 90 DAYS I PROVIDE YOU SOMETHING, IT TURNS INTO REPAIR.

I, I, NO.

OKAY.

I I I JUST WANTED TO THEY AIN'T ONGOING CHALLENGE IT.

THEY CHALLENGE IT AFTER 30 DAYS, RIGHT? IT, IT, WE, I GUESS WHAT I'M MAKING SURE WE UNDERSTAND.

THE ONLY, UH, I, I WANT MAKE SURE WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT, THIS BOARD KNOWS THAT THERE'S NOT AN EITHER OR, OR LS A N UM, TYPE OF TRIGGER FOR, FOR, FOR PROPERTIES.

YOU MEAN WHAT YOU MEAN THEN IS, UH, WHEN DO WE MAKE THE MOTION? WE CAN MAKE IT FOR 30, BUT THEN ADMINISTRATIVELY, WHATEVER YOU DO OR WHATEVER, UH, MR. TOMA, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THAT WAS ALL.

OKAY.

WE'RE GOOD.

GOOD.

I LIKE THE CHALLENGE.

VERY GOOD.

I'LL BE REUNITE.

THE FINAL ADMINISTRATIVE ISSUE IS FROM THE BOARD TO THE STAFF.

WE WISH YOU ALL A MERY.

MERRY CHRISTMAS.

SORRY.

ACTUALLY I HAVE ONE MORE.

I HAVE ONE MORE.

OH, ONE MORE.

YOU GET AHEAD.

YES, YOU GO GIRL.

THANK YOU.

JUDY.

CREW WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE TO THE, TO THE BOARD ON REGARDING THE BSB MEMBERSHIP PANEL B MEMBER LENCIA HAYES HAD TO RESIGN FROM THE BSB IN NOVEMBER, 2023.

MS. HAYES WAS INFORMED BY HER EMPLOYER THAT HER BSB MEMBERSHIP WAS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

SO MS. HAYES IS NO LONGER A MEMBER OF PANEL B OR THE BSB LENCIA HAYES.

ADDITIONALLY, ON DECEMBER 11TH, 2023, THE PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE MET TO CONSIDER APPLICANTS FOR THE VACANT AT LARGE POSITION.

THE PCDC HAS

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CONSIDERED THOMAS FRANKS FOR THE POSITION AND WILL FORWARD THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE FULL CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL APPROVAL.

THE PCDC HAS ALSO CONSIDERED THE CURRENT AT LARGE MEMBERS FOR REAPPOINTMENT, AND THEY'LL BE ALSO SENT OVER TO CITY COUNCIL.

THANK YOU, DR.

CIA.

DR.

DR.

LENCIA HAYES.

NO, NO.

I CAN SEE, OH, MS. HAYES, DR. HAYES , ALMOST.

THANK YOU SOON, SOON TO BE, WE ALL HOPE FOR OUR BENEFIT.

AND AGAIN, MERRY CHRISTMAS TO THE BOARD.

THANK YOU ALL.

THANK YOU.

AND WITHOUT OBJECTION, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, WE'RE ADJOURNED.

WE ARE.