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GOOD AFTERNOON.

WELCOME TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

SPECIAL MEETING OF SET, UH, EXCUSE ME, JANU.

UH, JUNE 13TH, 2019.

COUNCIL MEMBER VINNO.

COUNCIL MEMBER HALL HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER VERAN.

HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER SALANA.

HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ PRESENT.

COUNCIL MEMBER BROCK HOUSE COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, SANDAL HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER ELIAS HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE PRESENT.

COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY HERE.

AND MAYOR NUREMBERG HERE.

MAYOR, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM.

GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.

WELCOME TO OUR CITY COUNCIL BUDGET SESSION.

THE TIME IS 2:17 PM UH, FOR THE SAKE OF, UM, EXPEDITING OUR FLOW HERE TODAY, WE DO HAVE LOTS OF ITEMS TO TALK ABOUT FOR DEPARTMENTS.

WE'RE GOING TO COMBINE POLICE, FIRE, THEN WE'LL TAKE TWO OTHERS.

ERIC, YOU'LL DESCRIBE THAT, BUT KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE ASK QUESTIONS, UM, TO, WE WANT TO KEEP THE CONVERSATION MOVING SO EVERYBODY GETS THE INFORMATION THEY NEED AS WE GO INTO THE GOAL SETTING SESSION.

OKAY.

GO OVER THERE IF THERE'RE ERIC.

THANK YOU.

UH, WE'LL KICK OFF WITH, UH, CHIEF MCMANUS AND, UH, DEPUTY CHIEF VANCE MEAD WILL COVER THE FIRE POLICY ISSUES.

WE'LL, LIKE YOU SAID, WE'LL, WE'LL GO INTO QUESTIONS OR ADDITIONAL, UH, REQUEST FOR INFORMATION.

AND THEN WE'LL GO PART TWO ON, ON, UM, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

I'M SORRY, FAMILIES AND STRONG FAMILIES.

UH, TRAUMA-INFORMED CARE, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ISSUES.

SECONDLY, THANK YOU, MAYOR, OR, UH, CHIEF.

SORRY, .

THANK YOU.

UH, ERIC.

UM, MAYOR COUNCIL, GOOD AFTERNOON.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ELECT.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

UH, WE'RE GONNA GO OVER, WE'RE GONNA GO OVER THREE AREAS TODAY.

WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT PERFORMANCE.

WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT STAFFING, AND WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT 2020 PRIORITIES.

WE, SO THE DEPARTMENT IS COMPRISED OF SIX, UH, SERVICE AREAS.

UM, THEY'RE LISTED ON THE MAP THERE.

IT COVERS ABOUT 500 SQUARE MILES.

WE HAVE 115 PATROL DISTRICTS, AND GENERALLY SPEAKING, THEY ARE STAFFED 24 7, 365.

UH, IT COVERS, UH, THEY, THEY SERVICE OVER A MILLION, ALMOST A MILLION AND A HALF RESIDENTS.

AND WE HAVE AN AUTHORIZED STRENGTH OF 2,447.

AND I WILL TALK ABOUT THAT, UH, STAFFING ISSUE LATER ON IN THE PRESENTATION.

UM, DEPARTMENT'S MADE UP OF THREE BUREAUS.

WE HAVE OUR OPERATIONS, OUR SUPPORT, AND OUR ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES BUREAU.

THE KEY UNITS THAT, UM, FALL UNDER THOSE BUREAUS ARE LISTED ON THE, ON THE SLIDE.

THERE ARE OTHERS THAT, UH, ALSO COME UNDER THERE, BUT THEY'RE NOT LISTED.

OUR TOTAL BUDGET IS 492 MILLION.

AS YOU SEE ON THE SLIDE, S A P GENERAL'S GENERAL FUND IS MADE UP OF 430, 450 6 MILLION.

AND THE REST OF THE, UM, REST OF THE FUNDING IS, UH, MADE UP BY THE SIX, UH, AREAS THAT YOU SEE ON THE SLIDE.

GENERAL FUNDS, PARKS, GRANTS, AIRPORT, UH, DETENTION CENTER, CHILD SAFETY, AND CONFISCATED PROPERTY.

ALL THE NUMBERS THAT YOU SEE ON THE SLIDE ARE COMPARISONS TO LAST YEAR'S NUMBERS.

THEY'RE ALL LOOKING VERY GOOD.

THEY'RE ALL DOWN HOMICIDE'S.

15% RESPONSE TIMES DOWN TO 6 29.

USE OF FORCE INCIDENTS BY POLICE OFFICERS ARE DOWN 7%.

COMPLAINTS ARE DOWN 29%, AND WE'RE ANSWERING OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE, UH, 98.2% ALL WITHIN 10 SECONDS.

BACK IN 2017, WE STARTED A VIOLENT CRIME TASK FORCE AS A RESULT OF THE CRIME THAT WE SAW IN 2016.

THAT CRIME MANIFESTED ITSELF, NOT ONLY HERE IN SAN ANTONIO, BUT IT MANIFESTED ITSELF IN JUST ABOUT EVERY LARGE AND MEDIUM SIZED CITY ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

THE, THE NUMBERS THAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN ON THE SLIDE HERE ARE ALL UP IN A GOOD WAY, UH, EXCEPT FOR WEAPONS THAT ARE SEIZED.

AND I GUESS YOU CAN INTERPRET THAT ONE OF TWO WAYS.

UM, THE VIOLENT CRIME TASK FORCE IS COMPRISED OF LOCAL, STATE, COUNTY, AND FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES.

I THINK THERE'S NINE TOTAL.

UH, I AM SHOCKED.

QUITE, NOT SHOCKED, IS PROBABLY TOO STRONG OF A WORD, AND I'M PLEASANTLY SURPRISED TO SEE THAT THE NUMBERS CONTINUE TO STAY UP, UH, BECAUSE YEAR AFTER YEAR, UH, THE OFFICERS ARE, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY THAT THEY'RE OUTDOING THEMSELVES, UH, WITH THEIR WORKLOAD.

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UH, 2017, WE, AGAIN, WE STARTED, IT EIGHTEENS NUMBERS WERE UP FROM 17, AND AGAIN, 19 NUMBERS ARE UP FROM 18.

CLASS C MISDEMEANORS HAS ALWAYS BEEN, HAVE ALWAYS BEEN ELIGIBLE FOR SITE AND RELEASE.

THE EXPANDED PROGRAM ADDS EIGHT ADDITIONAL CHARGES, UH, AS ALLOWED BY THE TEXAS CODE OF CRIMINAL PROCEDURE.

THE KEY POINTS FOR ME ON THIS SLIDE ARE NUMBER TWO, THAT IT ALLOWS FOR, UH, OFFICERS TO RETURN TO THE FIELD MORE QUICKLY THAN A CUSTODIAL ARREST WOULD.

AND THE THIRD BULLET POINT OR CHECKPOINT THERE, IT PROVIDES FOR FULL OFFICER DISCRETION.

THESE ARE THE OFFENSES LISTED IN THE CODE OF CRIMINAL PROCEDURES THAT ARE ELIGIBLE FOR SITE AND RELEASE.

THE ONLY ONE THAT'S MISSING HERE IS GRAFFITI.

WE WILL NOT, UH, CITE PEOPLE WHO ARE ARRESTED FOR GRAFFITI.

THAT WILL BE A CUSTODIAL ARREST BECAUSE OF THE CONCERN AND THE MONEY THAT IT COSTS THE CITY AND THE RESIDENTS TO, UH, TO DEAL WITH GRAFFITI.

UH, THE JUSTICE INTAKE AND, AND ASSESSMENT ANNEX, OR THE JAYA, AS WE HATE TO CALL IT.

UH, WE'VE BEEN HAVING DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COUNTY FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, AT LEAST, UH, ON HOW TO MAKE THIS WORK FOR THE CITY, HOW TO MAKE IT WORK FOR THE DEPARTMENT, HOW TO MAKE IT WORK FOR THE PUBLIC.

UH, I, I WILL JUST SAY THAT WE CONTINUE TO MAKE PROGRESS AND CONTINUE TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS ON WHAT IT TAKES FOR US TO GET OVER THERE.

WE ARE PLANNING A PILOT PROJECT, A TEST RUN, UH, WITHIN, PROBABLY WITHIN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.

AND, UH, ONCE WE WORK THAT OUT WITH THE COUNTY, WE'LL SEE HOW IT ALL WORKS.

STAFFING, WE, WE ARE, WE HAVE SEEN THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF STAFFING, UH, TO DATE.

THAT, THAT I CAN RECALL GOING BACK AS FAR AS I CAN RECALL.

UH, WE HAVE 48 VACANCIES RIGHT NOW, AND I'M SORRY, WE HAVE 58 VACANCIES RIGHT NOW ON JULY 8TH, WE'LL START A CLASS OF 70 THAT WILL BRING US DOWN TO FLUSH IF OUR VACANCIES REMAIN SOMEWHAT STATIC.

UH, AND, AND POSSIBLY EVEN OVER THE NUMBER WE'RE, WE'RE AUTHORIZED.

I DON'T KNOW IF I'M ALLOWED TO SAY THAT, MARIA.

UM, BUT IN 2015, WE SAW, WE SAW OUR LOWEST POINT, AND WE'VE COME UP STEADY EVER SINCE THAT, UH, EVER SINCE THAT YEAR.

AND AGAIN, COME JULY, UH, WE SHOULD BE ALMOST FLUSH, IF NOT, IF NOT COMPLETELY FLUSH.

THE GOAL OF OUR STAFFING MODELS IS TO ENSURE THAT THE WORKLOAD IS EVENLY DISTRIBUTED ACROSS THE CITY.

UH, IT PROVIDES FOR A 60 40 SPLIT OF ON-CALL VERSUS PROACTIVE TIME ACROSS ALL PATROL AREAS OF ALL PATROL DISTRICTS.

UM, WE ALSO LOOK AT STAFFING NEEDS BASED ON POPULATION AND GROWTH.

WE HAVE FOUR PRIMARY STAFFING PRIORITIES, AND THAT IS TO MAINTAIN AND PROMOTE OFFICER SAFETY.

NUMBER ONE, MAINTAIN OUR CURRENT LEVEL OF SERVICE, INCREASE VISIBILITY AND ENHANCE OFFICER PRODUCTIVITY.

THIS IMPROVEMENT ADDS SIX SERGEANTS TO OVERSEE OUR C R T DETECTIVES.

IF YOU RECALL, WE ADDED SIX C R T DETECTIVES, UH, ACROSS EACH PATROL DISTRICT.

IT'S SIX OR SEVEN JOE FRANKER, SIX, SIX PATROL, UH, I'M, I'M SORRY, SIX DETECTIVES TO HANDLE SEXUAL ASSAULT CASES IN THE, IN THE SUBSTATIONS.

UH, THAT USED TO BE DONE BY A POLICE OFFICER WHO COULD NOT SEE THOSE CASES THROUGH FROM START TO FINISH.

SO WE ADDED A DETECTIVE TO REPLACE THE OFFICER.

AND NOW, UH, WE WANT TO NARROW THE SPAN OF CONTROL SO THE SERGEANTS CAN PAY MUCH MORE, MUCH CLOSER ATTENTION TO THOSE, EXCUSE ME, TO THOSE CASES AND TO THE WORK THAT THOSE DETECTIVES ARE DOING.

I ABOUT, UH, I DON'T KNOW, A MONTH OR TWO MONTHS AGO, WE MET WITH, UH, RESIDENTS IN, IN, UH, IN DISTRICT ONE, NOT ONE OF THE RESIDENTS, A A A RESIDENT GROUP, A NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP IN ONE OF THE, UH, UH, ENTERTAINMENT CORRIDORS IN DISTRICT ONE.

UM, THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE SHOWED UP AND THEY WERE, I GUESS I WOULD DESCRIBE THEM AS AN ANGRY BUT FRIENDLY CROWD.

UH, THE, THE ANGER STEMMED FROM

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THE INCONSISTENT ABILITY OF SS A P D TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WERE BEING CAUSED BY THE, BY THE CLUBS ON THE ST.

MARY'S STRIP.

UM, IT WAS A VERY PRODUCTIVE MEETING.

WE CAME UP WITH A PLAN AND WE INCLUDED ALL THE RESIDENTS IN THAT PLAN.

UH, WHEN THE PLAN WAS FINISHED, THEY ALL HAD A SAY.

THEY WERE ALL HAPPY WITH THE PLAN AND HAPPY WITH THE RESULTS.

HOWEVER, THE RESULTS WERE TEMPORARY BECAUSE WE DID NOT HAVE A PERMANENT CADRE OF OFFICERS TO DEAL WITH THE, THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS THAT THOSE CLUBS HAD ON THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO WE ARE, UM, LOOKING TO ADD SOME OFFICERS TO, TO WHAT WE CALL A NEIGHBORHOOD NIGHTLIFE CORRIDOR UNIT.

UM, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A, A PERMANENT SOLUTION TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES CAUSED BY THOSE, UH, BY THOSE ENTERTAINMENT CORRIDORS.

AND THESE CORRIDORS ARE, I CAN, I DUNNO IF YOU CAN SEE IT ON THE MAT, YOU CAN'T.

BUT THE, THE ENTERTAINMENT CORRIDORS ARE THE ST.

MARY'S STRIP, THE MAIN STREET STRIP, SOUTH TOWN, AND, UH, AND THE PEARL.

SO WE WANT TO, THE IDEA IS TO PUT A PERMANENT CADRE OF OFFICERS THAT CAN PATROL THESE, UH, CORRIDORS AND, UM, ELIMINATE THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS THAT, THAT THEY'RE HAVING ON THE NEIGHBORHOODS SURROUNDING THEM.

AND THAT APPEARS TO BE THE END OF THE PRESENTATION.

THANKS.

WE'LL MOVE TO, UH, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT PRESENTATION AND THEN QUESTIONS.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, CHIEF HOOD WA WANTED TO BE HERE, BUT, UM, HE'S UP IN ALBERTA REPRESENTING SAN ANTONIO WITH THE METRO CHIEF'S CONVENTION RIGHT NOW.

THERE WE GO.

UH, THE MISSION FOR THE SAN ANTONIO FIRE DEPARTMENT IS SIMPLE IN ITS DIRECTION, BUT COMPLICATED ITS EXECUTION.

UH, THE SIMPLE THING IS FOR US TO BE DEDICATED TO DOING THE RIGHT THING, UH, WITH COMPASSION AND PROFESSIONALISM.

IT'S WHO WE ARE.

IT'S WHAT WE DO.

IT'S HOW WE WORK.

THE COMPLICATED PART IS PROTECTING OUR COMMUNITY FROM ALL HAZARDS.

WE'RE A FULL SERVICE DEPARTMENT, AND, UH, IT'S A GOOD REPRESENTATION HERE WITH THE VARIOUS, UH, APPARATUS IT TAKES TO DO THAT.

THE COUNCIL HAS, UH, GIVEN US ABOUT $330 MILLION IN, UH, OUR CURRENT BUDGET.

80 PER OVER 80% OF THAT GOES INTO OUR FIRE AND, UH, FIRE SUPPRESSION AND E M S DIVISIONS FOR THEIR PERSONNEL AND EQUIPMENT.

UM, THESE ARE, UH, OUR FIREFIGHTERS, UH, THAT, UH, COME DIRECTLY TO THE RESIDENTS ON THEIR, UH, DOORSTEPS OF THEIR HOMES, OF THEIR BUSINESSES, UH, AND PROVIDE THE SERVICE THERE APPROXIMATELY.

THE OTHER 20% GOES INTO OUR FLEET.

AND, UH, FACILITIES MANAGEMENT DISPATCH, FIRE PREVENTION, ARSON FUSION, UH, OUR CIVILIAN SUPPORT STAFF.

WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY, UH, ALMOST 1800, UH, UNIFORMS. WE HAVE OVER 120, UH, CIVILIAN SUPPORT PERSONNEL.

UM, AS OF JULY, THERE'LL BE 54 FIRE STATIONS, UH, AND EACH ONE OF THOSE FIRE STATIONS HAS A FIRE ENGINE.

THERE ARE 21 LADDER TRUCKS THAT ARE SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE DEPART THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

UH, AS I MENTIONED, WE'RE AN ALL HAZARD FULL SERVICE DEPARTMENT, WHICH SETS US APART FROM MOST DEPARTMENTS OUT THERE IN THE COUNTRY.

UH, AND SO DOING, PROVIDING THAT SERVICE.

UH, E M SS HAS, UH, 43 AMBULANCES, UH, TO DO THAT.

UH, WE ALSO HAVE, UH, TWO HAZMAT TEAMS THAT PROVIDE, UH, THEIR SPECIALIZED SERVICE, NOT ONLY TO THE CITY, BUT ALSO THE REGION.

UH, WE HAVE, UH, A WILD, UH, WILDLAND FIRE TEAM.

UH, WE HAVE TWO TECHNICAL, UH, RESCUE AND SWIFT WATER RESCUE TEAMS. UH, AIRPORT CRASH RESCUE TEAM.

WE HAVE THE, OUR, UH, MOBILE INTEGRATED HEALTH TEAM, AS WELL AS, UH, MEDICAL SPECIAL OPERATIONS, WHICH WORKS, UH, WITH OUR BROTHERS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT CLOSELY.

UH, JUST, YOU KNOW, DALLAS DOES NOT PROVIDE THESE SERVICES AS FAR AS, UH, AVIATION, UH, AUSTIN FORT WORTH DON'T HAVE INTEGRATED E M SS SERVICES.

SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT SETS US APART BY PROVIDING ALL THESE SERVICES.

LAST YEAR, WE HAD OVER 380,000, UH, UNIT RESPONSES.

UH, AND THAT WAS FOR OVER ALMOST 200,000, UH, INDIVIDUAL

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EMERGENT INCIDENTS.

SO, OVER THE, SINCE ABOUT 2014, FIRE SUPPRESSION HAS HAD A ANNUAL GROWTH IN RESPONSES OF ABOUT 7.9%.

AND E M S HAS GROWN ABOUT 2.1%, UH, ANNUALLY.

UH, THE INCIDENTS OVERALL HAVE GONE ABOUT 4.6% ON AN ANNUALIZED BASIS.

UH, 85% OF THESE RESPONSES ARE MEDICAL BASED.

UH, OBVIOUSLY, E M SS HAS 99% OF THEIR RESPONSES ARE, AND THE FIRETRUCKS OUT THERE, UH, ABOUT 74% OF THE TIME THAT THEY'RE GOING OUT, THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING ON A MEDICAL RESPONSE.

YOU CAN SEE THAT BACK IN 2014, WE WERE ACTUALLY SENDING THE SAME, HAD THE SAME NUMBER OF UNIT RESPONSES FOR FIRE AND E M S.

UH, BUT FIRE HAD ABOUT TWICE THE NUMBER OF UNITS.

SO OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, WE'VE GOTTEN TO A POINT WHERE WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT, WHAT WE CONSIDER A LITTLE BIT MORE BALANCED, UM, RATIO THERE.

UH, WE'VE DONE THAT THROUGH A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT EFFICIENCIES WITH E M S, THE HOSPITAL DIVERSION PROGRAM, TAXI VOUCHERS, UH, WE'VE GOT A HOSPITAL, UM, SERVICE TIME POLICY SCENE, SERVICE SCENE TIMES.

UH, AND ALSO, UH, THE M I H PROGRAMS HAD AN IMPACT ON THIS AS WELL AS OUR, UH, FIRE ONLY RESPONSES.

IN FACT, IN 2014, FIRE ONLY WAS ONLY ABOUT 2% OF OUR RESPONSES.

AND AS OF LAST YEAR, WE'D GOTTEN THAT UP TO ABOUT 11%, WHICH REPRESENTS ABOUT 17,000 RUNS THAT THE FIRE ENGINES WERE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF, THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE TO SEND AN E M S UNIT ON.

SO THAT'S A, IT'S A GOOD EFFICIENCY FOR US THERE.

SO PRETTY MUCH EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS WHAT A FIRE ENGINE DOES.

FIRE ENGINE'S GOT WATER ON, IT'S GOT A PUMP, GOT A WHOLE BUNCH OF HOSE, GUYS GET OUT.

THEY PUT THE WET STUFF ON THE RED STUFF THAT'S STANDARD PROCEDURE.

LADDER COMPANIES ARE, ARE MORE SPECIALIZED.

THE, THE VEHICLE THEMSELVES ITSELF IS MUCH LARGER.

UH, IT CARRIES A LOT OF EQUIPMENT IN ADDITION TO THE AERIAL, IT'S GOT LOT JAWS OF LIFE, GENERATORS, LIGHT PLANTS, POWER TOOLS, HAND TOOLS, UH, SOMETIMES A LARGER CONTINGENT OF PERSONNEL.

AND THIS ALLOWS, UH, THEM TO DO SPECIALIZED THINGS LIKE, UH, VENTILATION, UH, FORCIBLE ENTRY, RESCUE.

UH, WE CAN ALSO DO DIFFERENT TYPES OF STABILIZATION FOR STRUCTURES AND, AND, UH, AND BUILDINGS.

UH, A LOT OF VEHICLE EXTRICATION IS INVOLVED, AND THEY'RE ALSO INVOLVED IN SOME OF THE RESCUES FOR, UH, UH, LOW ANGLE AND SWIFT WATER ALSO.

AND, UH, I S O UH, TYPICALLY SUGGESTS, UH, WE HAVE 21 IN TOWN.

THEY SUGGEST US TO HAVE 27 LADDERS.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT GO INTO THAT CALCULATION, BUT TYPICALLY FOR THEM, IT'S ABOUT A TWO TO ONE RATIO BETWEEN FIRE ENGINES AND, UH, AND LADDER COMPANIES.

UH, WE'RE, WE'RE MOVING TOWARDS, UH, THAT END RIGHT THERE.

AND KEEP IN MIND, WHENEVER WE ADD A LADDER TRUCK, UH, SO THAT'LL BE THE SECOND COMPANY THERE AT A, 'CAUSE ALL OF 'EM HAVE A FIRE ENGINE.

SOME OF 'EM HAVE THE LADDER TRUCK THERE.

IT'S WHAT WE CALL A DOUBLE COMPANY.

EVERY DOUBLE COMPANY WE PUT A SQUAD.

SO WE ALSO PROVIDE A, A, BASICALLY A PICKUP THAT'S THERE WITH, WITH, UH, A BUNCH OF EQUIPMENT ON IT.

WHAT THIS ALLOWS US TO DO IS WE CAN TAKE ONE PERSON OFF OF EACH ONE OF THOSE LARGE APPARATUS AND CREATE A THIRD APPARATUS.

SO IF THERE'S A MEDICAL CALLING AREA, WHICH IS WHAT HAPPENS THREE QUARTERS OF THE TIME, THEN THAT UNIT, THAT PICKUP IS ABLE TO GO OUT, KEEPING THE OTHER TWO LARGE APPARATUS STILL IN SERVICE FOR ANY OTHER RUN THAT MIGHT COME IN, WHETHER IT'S A FIRE RUN OR A MEDICAL RUN.

UH, AND YOU'RE NOT HAVING AS MUCH WEAR AND TEAR ON THE PERSONNEL, UH, OR THE MILLION DOLLAR VEHICLE AS COMPARED TO SENDING OUT THE TRUCK.

IT'S ALSO A LOT EASIER TO GET IN AND OUT OF, UH, THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO IT'S A, IT'S AN EXCELLENT EFFICIENCY THAT WE GET WITH THESE DOUBLE COMPANIES FROM THE LADDER COMPANIES.

SO THIS MAP RIGHT HERE REPRESENTS, UH, THE COVERAGE THAT, UH, OUR LADDER COMPANIES PROVIDE.

UH, N F P A 1710, UH, SAYS THAT WE SHOULD BE THERE.

UH, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET A LADDER TRUCK TO ANY PLACE IN THE CITY, UH, EIGHT MINUTES OR LESS, 90% OF THE TIME.

UH, CURRENTLY WE'RE WORKING A LITTLE BIT OVER 83% OF THE TIME, AND THAT'S AS FAR AS, UH, AREA COVERED.

UH, ACTUALLY, AS FAR AS THE POPULATION, WE GET THERE ABOUT 95% OF THE TIME.

AS FAR AS THE POPULATION IS CONCERNED.

UH, WE'VE TRIED TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY EFFICIENCIES AS FAR AS MOVING THE LADDER TRUCKS AROUND AS AND THE RESPONSES.

UH, IN 2016, WE HAD A, UH, RELOCATION COMMITTEE.

IN 2019, WE HAD A RELOCATION COMMITTEE LOOKING AT THESE THINGS FOR EFFICIENCIES.

UH, THE ONLY, UH, LADDER TRUCK THAT ENDED UP GETTING MOVED WAS LADDER 22, WENT OVER TO, UH, STATION NUMBER TWOS WHENEVER THE NEW TWOS WAS, UH, BUILT, 'CAUSE IT WAS FINALLY LARGE ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE IT.

OUR E M S DIVISION PROVIDES MEDICAL SERVICE WITH, UH, 43 AMBULANCES.

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UH, 35 OF THOSE ARE FULL-TIME WITH, UH, MEMBERS, UH, PERMANENTLY ASSIGNED THERE.

UH, WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL FULL-TIME, UH, PEAK UNIT THAT RUNS 24 7, AND WE HAVE SEVEN OTHER PEAK UNITS THAT RUN, UH, UH, DIFFERENT TIMES OF THE DAY AND DIFFERENT TIMES OF THE WEEK.

UH, WHAT THE PLAN IS MOVING FORWARD IS TO ADD A, UM, ANOTHER E M S UNIT IN, UH, 2023.

THERE'S 11 STATIONS OUT THERE THAT DON'T HAVE AN E M S UNIT.

ALL THE REST OF 'EM DO UP THERE IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER FORTIES IS WHERE THE FULL-TIME PEAK IS.

IN 18, WE WERE ABLE TO ADD, UH, ENGINE 54, UH, LADDER 18 AND MEDIC 32.

UH, THIS YEAR, UH, JUST STARTING IN JULY, WE'LL BE ABLE TO ADD OUR MEDICAL, A NEW MEDICAL OFFICER.

AND, UH, THAT WAS TO ADDRESS A ISSUE WE HAD WITH SPAN OF CONTROL, UH, THAT'LL PARTIALLY BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THAT.

UM, AND THEN IN 20 AND 21, UH, WE'RE SUGGESTING THAT WE ADD ADDITIONAL LADDER COMPANIES EACH YEAR ALONG WITH THE SQUADS THAT COME WITH THAT.

AND THEN IN 2023, UH, IT'LL BE TIME TO ADD ANOTHER E M S UNIT.

HOPEFULLY OUR EFFICIENCIES THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER WILL HELP HELP US GET TO THAT POINT.

ALSO, WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS YEAR, UM, POTENTIALLY ADDING A, UH, A SINGLE COMPANY SQUAD.

SO INSTEAD OF HAVING TO ONLY BE ABLE TO USE THE SQUAD, UH, AT THE DOUBLE COMPANIES, WE'D BE ABLE TO USE IT AS SINGLE COMPANY.

UM, IT DOES, UH, HAVE, UH, MANPOWER THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDED, UNLIKE WITH THE OTHERS.

BUT STILL, FOR THE BANG, FOR THE BUCK THAT YOU GET, FOR THE AMOUNT OF MANPOWER ADDING TO THE NUMBER OF RUNS THAT THEY'RE ON, WE FEEL IT, IT'S GONNA BE A GOOD IMPROVEMENT.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THOSE ARE THE PRESENTATIONS ON PUBLIC SAFETY, AND WE'RE AVAILABLE TO TAKE QUESTIONS.

GREAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GUYS.

UH, VANCE, IF, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'LL JUST ASK YOU FIRST, SINCE YOU WERE, YOU USED TO BE CLOSER TO THE MIC , I JUST HAVE ONE QUICK, QUICK QUESTION WITH REGARD TO RESPONSE TIMES AND UNIT RESPONSE TIMES.

SO THE, THE SLIDE THAT HAD, UM, THE GRAPH ESTIMATED ALL THE WAY UP TO 2023, ARE THOSE, THOSE AREN'T ACTUAL RUNS, ARE THEY? THOSE ARE, UH, RESPONSES.

SO, YOU KNOW, UM, A LOT OF E M SS RESPONSES MAY ONLY HAVE ONE UNIT, BUT YOU HAVE A FIRE AND IT'S GONNA HAVE EIGHT TO 12 UNITS ON IT.

SO THESE ARE EACH INDIVIDUAL TIME THAT WE SEND A UNIT OUT.

OKAY.

SO A SINGLE CALL MIGHT HAVE THREE NUMBERS ON THAT? ABSOLUTELY.

OKAY.

ABSOLUTELY.

OKAY.

I GUESS EVERY CARDIAC ARREST WILL HAVE AT LEAST THREE UNITS ON IT.

YEAH.

I, I GUESS I'M LOOKING AT THE F Y 2014 NUMBERS AND THEN LOOKING AT F Y 18 NUMBER MM-HMM.

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AND I'M, I'M JUST THINKING TO MYSELF, ARE WE HAVING, WE'RE NOT HAVING THAT MANY MORE CALLS FOR SERVICE.

HOW, HOW IS IT THAT OUR, OUR UNIT RESPONSE HAS JUMPED SO, SO MUCH IN SUCH A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME? UM, PART OF THAT IS THE, IS THE NATURAL GROWTH.

I MEAN, THE, THE TREND LINE WOULD BE RIGHT IN BETWEEN THAT.

UH, SOME OF THAT IS, UH, US ADDRESSING, UH, RECOGNIZING THAT WE NEEDED TO HAVE MORE UNITS ON CERTAIN CALLS.

UH, SO, UH, SOME OF THAT WAS, EVEN THOUGH WE WERE STILL SENDING E M SS, WE WERE SENDING FIRE ADDITIONALLY BECAUSE, UH, MAYBE, UH, THE FIRE UNITS WERE CLOSER, OR BECAUSE WE'RE RECOGNIZING THAT WE NEED TO, TO SEND THESE, SEND THEM SOME, UH, SUPPORT FOR HEAVIER PATIENTS OR, OR WHATEVER ELSE WOULD POTENTIALLY BE NEEDED IN A SAFETY SITUATION.

YEAH.

AND I UNDERSTAND, I, I'D LIKE TO UNPACK THAT A LITTLE BIT MM-HMM.

SO I CAN UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE THE ESTIMATED, I MEAN, THE ESTIMATES, YOUR FORECAST THERE TO 2023 MM-HMM.

SHOWS A NEAR LINEAR CLIMB IN RESPONSES.

AND I'M THINKING, YOU KNOW, THAT HAS LESS TO DO WITH ACTUAL FIRES AND EMERGENCIES THAN IT DOES PERHAPS THE WAY WE'RE DOING OTHER THINGS IN THE CITY, WHETHER IT'S BUILDING STREETS OR TAKING CARE OF OTHER SOCIAL SERVICES ISSUES THAT YOU ALL OFTEN GET CALLS FOR MM-HMM.

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SO I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT BETTER WHY WE HAVE SUCH A DRAMATIC, UH, FORECAST IN SUCH A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME AND WHAT WE NEED TO BE DOING, UH, TO EITHER MAKE OUR OPERATIONS MORE EFFICIENT OR TO ADDRESS ISSUES THAT FALL OUTSIDE OF YOUR PURVIEW, BUT THAT AFFECT YOUR JOB.

MM-HMM.

AND, YOU KNOW, THE, THE GROWTH IN INCIDENTS THEMSELVES, AS FAR AS THE, THE CALLS THAT WERE ACTUALLY GOING ON IN 2014, IT WAS ABOUT 165,000 AND WORKED UP TO 2018, UH, JUST UNDER 200,000.

SO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE TREND LINE IS UP THERE AS FAR AS ADDITIONAL CALLS.

OKAY.

YEAH.

WELL, THERE'S NO DOUBT YOU GUYS ARE BUSY AND WE SAT LAST WEEKEND AND, AND, UM, BUT THERE'S SOMETHING ON OUR END THAT WE CAN, WE CAN HELP ADDRESS.

UM, WE CERTAINLY WANNA DO THAT.

SO, ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION, MAN.

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YES, SIR.

UM, CHIEF, I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION.

UM, I MEAN, THE NUMBERS ARE PRETTY INCREDIBLE IN TERMS OF THE EFFECTIVENESS OF, OF THE DEPARTMENT.

UM, MY QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH ASSET MANAGEMENT.

UM, THERE'S SHOWN A PRETTY DRAMATIC INCREASE OF APPREHENSIONS, OF DRUG SEIZURES, OF, UH, THE ONLY THING THAT WAS DOWN IT LOOKED LIKE WAS WEAPONS SEIZED, BUT ALSO CASH.

UH, WHAT IS OUR CURRENT POLICY ON ASSET MANAGEMENT? AND, UM, HOW'S THAT ALL WORK? WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT ASSET MANAGEMENT, MAYOR, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ASSET SEIZURE MONEY? ASSET SEIZURE? YEAH.

YEAH.

THERE'S A, THERE'S A SPLIT THAT WE, THAT WE HAVE BETWEEN THE DA AND US ON STATE CASES.

AND THERE'S A SPLIT THAT WE HAVE BETWEEN, UH, THE, UH, UNITED STATES ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND US ON FEDERAL CASES.

UH, THAT MONEY IS, UM, DEPOSITED AND YOU KNOW, WHEN IT, IT, IT HAS TO WORK ITS WAY THROUGH THE COURT SYSTEM FIRST.

ONCE THE COURT CASE IS OVER, THEN ANY REWARD MONEY WOULD BE, UH, ALLOTTED.

AND IT'S, IT'S BY LAW, IT HAS TO BE USED FOR A LAW ENFORCEMENT RELATED PURPOSE.

OKAY.

THAT'S STATUTORY.

UM, YES.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

'CAUSE THERE HAS BEEN SOME CONVERSATION IN THE COMMUNITY ABOUT, WELL, CAN WE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PROCEEDS FROM ASSET SEIZURE, CAN WE SOMEHOW MAKE SURE THAT THAT FINDS ITS WAY INTO A PRODUCTIVE NEIGHBORHOOD? YES, SIR.

USE AND TO HELP, YOU KNOW, REMEDY SOME OF THOSE SITUATIONS THAT ARE PRODUCING ALL THOSE SEIZURES.

AND, AND I, AND I'VE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS AS WELL, AND I'VE MET WITH THE DA AND WE'VE TALKED WE'RE, WE HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO SIT DOWN OR, UH, TO TALK ABOUT IT, BUT I, I'VE ASKED HIM IF HE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN, UM, SHARING SOME OF THAT, UH, ASSET SEIZURE MONEY WITH COMMUNITY GROUPS FOR CRIME PREVENTION PURPOSES.

YEAH.

SO WE STILL HAVE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION YET.

OKAY.

GREAT.

WELL, INTERESTED IN SEEING HOW THAT PLAYS OUT.

OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A CIRCLE OF LIFE THAT WE'D LIKE TO MAKE MORE PRODUCTIVE THERE, BUT, UH, Y'ALL ARE DOING A FANTASTIC JOB.

THANKS FOR MAKING OUR COMMUNITIES PROUD.

UM, COUNCILWOMAN GRO.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UH, THANK YOU VINCE, FOR THE PRESENTATION.

UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW.

I DO HAVE ONE.

IF YOU COULD PUT UP, I THINK, UM, CHIEF, I WANTED TO SEE KIND OF THE SAME SORT OF BUDGET THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, I DON'T MEAN TO BE COMPARING YOU ALL, BUT, UM, HOW THEY HAVE IT BROKEN DOWN WITH E M S, FIRE SUPPRESSION, FIRE PREVENTION DISPATCH.

UM, I WAS HOPING TO SEE THAT KIND OF BREAKDOWN STILL IN THE, UM, YOUR PIE CHART WITH THE POLICE IN BUDGET, THE POLICE BUDGET.

'CAUSE 4 56 IS JUST GENERAL FUND.

I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE DISTINCTION OF WHAT THAT IS BROKEN DOWN TO, IF IT'S FLEET MANAGEMENT, SUBSTATIONS, ET CETERA.

SO IF WE CAN SEE THAT IN THE FUTURE.

YES, MA'AM.

UM, THANK YOU.

AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, WE'RE STILL GONNA HAVE A WORK SESSION ON PUBLIC SAFETY AFTER THE FACT.

CORRECT? UH, ON THE 20, ARE YOU TALKING ON THE 21ST COUNCILWOMAN, AND THEN AFTER THAT, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER ONE? YES.

AFTER THE BUDGET IS PROPOSED, RIGHT? YES.

WE WILL HAVE THE FULL, UH, PRESENTATION THAT WE DO EVERY YEAR.

YES.

ALRIGHT.

UM, AND THEN NEXT I JUST WANTED TO TALK ABOUT, UM, THE STAFFING AND HOW YOU, YOU WERE, UM, TALKING ABOUT STAFFING NUMBERS AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO BE FLUSH.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I ALSO WANT TO KIND OF DIG DEEP IN ON THESE NUMBERS, EVEN THOUGH VACANCIES OR POSITIONS WILL BE FILLED, I'D ALSO LIKE TO GET KIND OF AN INVENTORY OF THEN, EVEN IF THE POSITIONS ARE FILLED, HOW MANY OF THOSE POSITIONS ARE OUT FOR EXTENDED PERIODS, PERIODS OF TIME, EITHER ON SICK LEAVE OR FOR INJURY, ET CETERA.

OKAY.

BECAUSE FROM, AND I KNOW YOU'VE ALL HEARD THIS FROM ME BEFORE, SPECIFICALLY IN THE E SUB, UM, IN MY, IN DISTRICT THREE, IT'S NOT BEING FILLED WITH SAFE OFFICERS LIKE IT SHOULD BE.

UM, WE'RE NOT HAVING OUR SAFE OFFICERS THAT WE NEED IN OUR, IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE TAKING LEAVE BECAUSE OF THEIR INJURIES, WHICH THEY NEED TO, OR WORKMAN'S COMP.

SO I WANNA KNOW WHERE ARE THOSE GAPS THAT WE HAVE.

UM, THEY MAY NOT, THEY MAY BE FILLING, HITTING THE NOTES OF FILLED POSITIONS, BUT THEY'RE NOT THERE PHYSICALLY IN THE FLESH FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

AND I THINK THAT'S AN, AN ISSUE THAT WE NEED MORE EXPLANATION TO OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS TOO.

UM, AND I'LL CON CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE CHIEF MARIA, ERIC, FOR, UM, 'CAUSE IF WE DO LOOK AT THAT BEAUTIFUL MAP THAT YOU HAVE ON SLIDE NUMBER THREE, I HAVE BEEN AND WILL CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE FOR, UM, A SUBSTATION, A POLICE SUBSTATION IN THAT SOUTHERN

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REGION, UM, THAT GOES, EXTENDS ALL THE WAY FROM 90 ALL THE WAY TO 1604, BECAUSE THAT'S A LOT OF AREA FOR OUR OFFICERS TO COVER IN, UM, IN WHAT IS A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME THAT THEY NEED TO COVER IT.

AND I UNDERSTAND THEY HAVE THOSE PATROL AREAS AND THEY'RE OUT AND ABOUT, BUT STILL, THAT'S A LOT OF GROUND TO COVER WITHOUT A BASE OF A SUBSTATION THERE.

GOING TO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD CORRIDOR, NIGHT QUALITY LIFE QUARTERS, CORRIDOR.

YEAH.

THAT ONE.

UM, GOING TO THAT ONE, THE NIGHTLIFE CORRIDOR, UH, UNIT UNITS.

HAVE Y'ALL HAD THE CONVERSATION OR WHERE DOES IT FIT INTO, UM, DRAG RACING AND SPEEDING ANY LE AND ALL THAT DRAG RACING? BECAUSE IT DOES HAPPEN AT NIGHT, EITHER IN DIFFERENT LARGE CORRIDORS, IF IT'S RIGSBY, IF IT'S MILITARY, IF IT'S PRESA, WE WOULD, THAT COULD THAT FIT UNDER HERE, THE NIGHTLIFE CORRIDORS, OR DO Y'ALL DO SOMETHING ELSE? WELL, UH, COUNCILMAN THE, THE PARAMETERS THAT THAT DRAW US TO THESE NIGHTLIFE CORRIDORS ARE NUMBER ONE, THE FACT THAT THOSE CORRIDORS DRAW THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE AT NIGHT WITH NO ADDITIONAL COVERAGE.

MM-HMM.

.

SO THE IDEA WOULD BE TO PROVIDE A PERMANENT, UH, CADRE OF OFFICERS TO COVER THOSE AREAS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS SURROUNDING IT DURING THE TIME WHEN THOSE THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE COME INTO THE AREA.

MM-HMM.

, WHEN YOU HAVE THE DRAG RACING TYPE EVENTS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE NUMBERS, UH, DON'T ADD UP TO NEEDING AN ADDITIONAL CADRE OF OFFICERS THAT COVER IT.

I BELIEVE THAT THEY CAN BE COVERED BY EXISTING OFFICERS, UH, DURING THE TIMES THAT THEY'RE NOT ON CALL MM-HMM.

.

UM, BUT IT'S A LOT OF COORDINATED EFFORT THAT YOU ALL HAVE TO DO TOO IN ORDER TO GET THESE, BECAUSE IT'S VERY SOPHISTICATED.

YOU ALL KNOW THIS, IT'S SOPHISTICATED HOW THIS DRAG RACING HAPPENS.

RIGHT.

AND SO IT, BUT IT DOES.

IT'S EVEN, I COULD MAKE A CASE HOW IT IS UNDER THE DEFINITION OF NIGHTLIFE CORRIDORS, ET CETERA, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE DO ON MILITARY DRIVE.

RIGHT.

ON SUNDAY NIGHTS IN PARTICULAR, THAT'S PART OF THEIR NIGHTLIFE.

SO, UM, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'LL BE LOOKING AT AS YOU PRESENT THIS EVEN FURTHER DOWN, UH, COMING, COMING FORWARD.

AND SO I THINK THAT'S ALL OF THE, THE THOUGHTS THAT I HAD RIGHT NOW FOR THIS, THIS AREA.

AND HOPING TO, AS WE HAVE THE LARGER CONVERSATION, MARIA, OF, UM, OUR HOLISTIC APPROACH WHEN IT COMES TO, UM, HOMELESSNESS, I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT, UM, THE HOPE TEAM, IF THERE'S GOING TO BE ANY, UM, ADDITIONS OR ANY, UM, AUGMENTATION TO THE HOPE TEAM MEMBERS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN GRO.

COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL, UM, COUNCILMAN PERRY.

THANK YOU, SIR.

UM, LET'S START WITH THE, UH, UH, FIRE HERE.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE ANNUAL REPORT DOESN'T QUITE SHOW THESE STATISTICS THE WAY YOU HAVE 'EM.

OKAY.

UM, IT SHOWS ACTUAL FIRE RUNS VERSUS E M S RUNS AND, AND OTHER RUNS.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT BROKEN OUT THAT WAY BECAUSE THIS REALLY DOESN'T GIVE A CLEAR PICTURE OF HOW MANY FIRE RUNS WE'RE RESPONDING TO VERSUS IT DOES BREAK OTHER CAR ACCIDENTS.

CORRECT.

AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.

YEAH.

SO, UM, WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT BROKEN OUT.

SURE.

SEPARATELY.

OKAY.

UH, ALONG WITH THAT, UM, WHEN YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE ANNUAL REPORT, THE NUMBER OF E M SS RUNS FAR OUTWEIGHS FIRE RUNS.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND I'M, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, CONCERNED ABOUT THE NUMBER OF E M SS UNITS WE HAVE DEPLOYED RIGHT NOW MM-HMM.

AND LOOKING AT YOUR LONG RANGE PLAN, NOT BRINGING ON ANOTHER E M S UNIT UNTIL 2023.

I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

THAT, UH, AGAIN, I, I, I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THESE BIG, BIG FIRE TRUCKS GOING DOWN THE ROAD, RESPONDING TO, UM, EMERGENCIES THAT E M S SHOULD BE RESPONDING TO.

MM-HMM.

, AND I KNOW THERE'S E M S PEOPLE TRAINED ON EACH ONE, BUT I STILL THINK THAT WE NEED TO INCREASE OUR E M S UNITS TO TAKE SOME OF THAT PRESSURE OFF THOSE BIG TRUCKS ROLLING DOWN THE ROAD.

MM-HMM.

CAUSES WEAR AND TEAR, NOT ONLY ON THE TRUCKS, BUT OUR STREETS.

RIGHT.

AND, UH, WITH, I HAVEN'T SEEN BEFORE ARE THE NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS THAT WE REALLY, UH, HAVE WITH OUR FIRE THAT WE'RE INVOLVED WITH.

YES.

OKAY.

AND ON OUR STREETS WITH THE BIG TRUCKS, SO SURE.

I, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT HOLISTICALLY AND, YOU KNOW, SHOULD WE BE MOVING MORE RESOURCES INTO THE E M S SIDE VERSUS THE FIRE SIDE MM-HMM.

.

SO I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT FOR OUR WORKING GROUP.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND THERE ARE CERTAIN EFFICIENCIES IN E M S UNITS, THEY TAKE LESS MEMBERS

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AND, YOU KNOW YES.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE LESS EXPENSIVE.

RIGHT.

UH, THE PLUS ON SITE, ON THE FIRE IS THAT FIRE CAN DO BOTH PARTS OF IT.

THEY OBVIOUSLY GO TO THOSE MEDICAL RUNS AND THEY CAN PROVIDE THAT IMMEDIATE SERVICE, AND YET THEY'RE IN EVERY SINGLE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY CAN MAKE THAT DUAL THING OF BOTH FIRE AND E M S.

SO THERE'S EFFICIENCIES ON BOTH SIDES OF THAT.

AND WE, WE'D LOVE TO HAVE AS MUCH AS YOU CAN PROVIDE OF ANY OF THAT, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO BE AS GOOD STEWARD AS WE CAN WITH THESE RESOURCES AND, AND BRING 'EM ONLINE ONLY AS WE REALLY FEEL NECESSARY.

RIGHT.

SO YEAH, IF YOU COULD BREAK THAT OUT AND GET THOSE ABSOLUTELY EXTRA WE CAN GET TO BREAKDOWN ON, ON THAT'D GREAT.

THE TYPES OF RUNS THAT WE MAKE AND THE PERCENTAGE THAT THEY YEP.

UH, TAKE OF THE TOTAL.

IT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

WE CAN GET THAT TO YOU.

GREAT.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU, SIR.

YES, SIR.

UM, CHIEF, UM, JUST SO OVERALL ON THE POLICE SIDE, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE SHOWING RE REDUCTIONS IN OUR CRIME RATES, UH, OVERALL AND YOUR, YOUR CHART THERE THAT SHOWS THE REDUCTIONS ACROSS THE BOARD, THAT'S GREAT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE NORMALLY BENCHMARK WITH OTHER CITIES ON OTHER ISSUES.

CAN WE BENCHMARK? I, I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT IT IS WITH OTHER CITIES AS WELL, THEIR, THEIR CRIME RATES AND STATISTICS.

HOW MANY OFFICERS PER A HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE, THAT KIND OF THING.

JUST TO GET A FEEL FOR WHERE WE ARE WITH THE OVERALL MANNING ALONG WITH, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE CRIME STATISTICS ARE IN OTHER TEXAS CITIES HERE.

I I WILL TELL YOU THAT, THAT YOU CAN'T ACCURATELY COMPARE CITY TO CITY'S CRIME NUMBERS AGAINST EACH OTHER.

SO YOU CAN'T SAY THAT DALLAS IS SAFER OR MORE DANGEROUS THAN, THAN HOUSTON BECAUSE THIS CATEGORY'S UP OR THIS CATEGORY'S DOWN BECAUSE THEY DON'T, THE CRITERIA'S NOT THE SAME IN EVERY CITY AS IT'S REPORTED.

THEY, YOU, YOU REPORT YOUR U C R CRIMES, YOUR UNIFORM CRIME REPORTING NUMBERS TO THE F B I.

BUT AGAIN, LEMME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.

IF I, IF I POINT A GUN AT YOU AND PULL THE TRIGGER, IT'S AN AG ASSAULT.

IF I PULL THE GUN AT YOU AND DON'T PULL THE TRIGGER, WHAT IS IT? IT'S AN AG ASSAULT, BUT SOME CITIES WILL COUNT THAT AS A SIMPLE ASSAULT, SO IT DOESN'T COUNT AGAINST THEIR NUMBERS.

IF I BREAK INTO A CAR AND STEAL A RADIO OUT OF THE CAR, WHAT IS IT? IT'S A VEHICLE BURGLARY.

IF I BREAK INTO A CAR AND DON'T STEAL ANYTHING, WHAT IS IT? IT'S A VEHICLE BURGLARY.

HOWEVER, SOME CITIES WILL CLASSIFY THAT AS A THEFT, I'M SORRY, NOT A THEFT.

A UH, A UH, CRIMINAL MISCHIEF SO THEY'RE NOT REPORTED THE SAME AND THAT, AND THOSE, SO, AND, AND THE F B I WILL, WILL, WILL CAVEAT THEIR U C R REPORTING PAGE ON ONLINE WITH, DO NOT COMPARE CITY TO CITY WITH THESE NUMBERS, BECAUSE AGAIN, THE REPORTING CRITERIA IS NOT DONE THE SAME IN EVERY CITY.

AND GIVEN THE, THE, THE DEMOGRAPHICS AND THE, THE DENSITY AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT GOES ALONG WITH, WITH CITIES, UH, THE, THE NUMBERS JUST ARE, ARE NOT VALID TO COMPARE.

SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN GIVE YOU, WE CAN GIVE YOU THAT, BUT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY SAY THAT BECAUSE OUR NUMBERS ARE LOWER THAN WHATEVER CITY WE YOU WANT TO COMPARE THAT WE'RE SAFER OR MORE DANGEROUS IF THE NUMBERS ARE HIGHER.

RIGHT.

BUT I MEAN, THEY HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF OFFICERS PER CORRECT.

10,000 OR A HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE WE HAVE THE SAME THAT WE, THAT WE CAN COMPARE.

AND THEY DON'T HAVE THESE CATEGORIES LISTED BY CITY ARREST, FELONY WARRANTS, NARCOTICS CHARGES.

YEAH.

THEY DO.

GANG MEMBERS.

SURE THEY DO.

YEAH.

OKAY.

THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE COMPARISON.

WELL, THEY CAN, I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY PUBLISH THEM, BUT THEY DO.

YEAH.

WELL, IF WE COULD OKAY.

FIND OUT GOTCHA.

IF THEY'RE TRACKING THESE NUMBERS AS WELL AND COMPARE OURSELVES TO THOSE CITIES.

OKAY.

IN THESE CATEGORIES.

YES, SIR.

THAT YOU HAVE LISTED HERE.

UM, SO I ASKED THIS IN THE, UH, SAFETY MEETING ABOUT METRICS, YOU KNOW, IN THE SITE AND RELEASE PROGRAM, YOU'RE SAYING WE SHOULD GAIN X AMOUNT OF HOURS FOR THE POLICE TO, UH, SPEND MORE TIME ON THE STREET.

UM, HOW ARE WE GONNA TRACK THAT IN THE OVERALL PROGRAM? I HAVEN'T SEEN THOSE METRICS YET ON HOW YOU'RE GONNA TRACK THAT, BUT I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO, UH, VALIDATE WHETHER THIS IS WORKING MM-HMM.

OR IT'S NOT WORKING SURE.

ON THE SITE AND RELEASE PROGRAM THAT, THAT Y'ALL ARE PUTTING TOGETHER, UM, I WOULD STILL LIKE TO SIT DOWN WITH YOU TO DEVELOP THOSE, THOSE METRICS SURE.

AND RELATE IT TO COST, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

IT ALL COMES DOWN TO MONEY AT THE END OF THE DAY AND HOW MANY OFFICERS YOU CAN HAVE ON THE STREET PATROLLING VERSUS STANDING IN LINE.

RIGHT.

UM, TAKING SOMEBODY IN.

BUT REMEMBER THE SIDE EFFECTS OF THAT

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ARE, UH, HAVING TO SERVE WARRANTS ON PEOPLE THAT DON'T COME IN, THAT KIND OF THING ON THEIR ASSIGNED DATE.

SO THERE'S OTHER KNOCK ON EFFECTS TO THE SITE, SITE AND RELEASE PROGRAM.

SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT ON A GLOBAL LEVEL AND, UH, START TRACKING THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE STATISTICS WE HAVE TODAY VERSUS WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY WILL LOOK LIKE WHEN WE IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAM.

UM, SAFE OFFICERS, WHERE DO WE STAND ON SAFE OFFICERS? THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALL FILLED EXCEPT FOR THE NORTH SUB AND THEY SUBMITTED THEIR PAPERWORK LATE.

THAT'S WHY THEY'RE NOT FILLED YET, BUT THEY WILL BE FILLED BEFORE THE END OF THE MONTH.

OKAY.

TWO, TWO POSITIONS.

OKAY.

AND ON THE OVERALL PROGRAM, AGAIN, ON THE SAFE PROGRAM, I, I I I REALLY BELIEVE IN THAT PROGRAM AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS BELIEVE IN THAT PROGRAM.

DO YOU HAVE ANY, WITH THE GROWTH OF SAN ANTONIO AND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE COMING IN? I I, I, DO YOU HAVE ANY GRAND PLAN TO EXPAND THE SAFE PROGRAM? I, I, I, I WOULDN'T CALL IT GRAND PLANS, BUT CERTAINLY THAT WOULD BE AN AREA THAT WE WOULD EXPAND IN AS, AS WE EXPAND IN OTHER AREAS AS WELL.

BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH.

YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T FORESEE ANYTHING THIS NEXT YEAR THEN ON ADDING TO THE SAFE PROGRAM? NO, SIR.

OKAY.

WHEN DO YOU FORESEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPENING? I, I DON'T FORESEE IT AT THE MOMENT.

UH, IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'VE HAD A, A GREAT DEAL OF DISCUSSION ABOUT, BUT AGAIN, AS, AS UNITS EXPAND BECAUSE OF GROWTH, THAT WOULD CERTAINLY BE ONE OF THEM.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

UM, AND IN YOUR, IN YOUR PRESENTATION, I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING.

WELL, I DID SEE SOME REFERENCES TO, UM, ADDITIONAL RESOURCES, BUT HOW MANY ADDITIONAL RESOURCES ARE WE REALLY TALKING ABOUT? I DIDN'T SEE ANY NUMBERS.

HOW MANY ADDITIONAL OFFICER POSITIONS ARE YOU ASKING FOR? RIGHT NOW? WE'RE ASKING FOR 10 FOR THE, UH, NIGHTLIFE QUARTERS, UH, QUALITY OF LIFE QUARTERS.

WE'RE TALK, WE'RE LOOKING AT SIX C R T SERGEANTS.

UH, WHAT ELSE WE GOT, JOE FRANK? ANY, UH, 15 PATROL, 15 AND 15 FOR PATROL.

ONE SERGEANT IN YOUR AND AND YEAH.

AND, AND ADDITIONAL SERGEANT FOR THE ENTERTAINMENT, UH, NOT ENTERTAINMENT ZONE, BUT THE, UH, NIGHTLIFE ORDERS.

OKAY.

SO HOW MANY TOTAL AUTHORIZATIONS ARE WE ASKING? 32.

32.

32.

AND WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE IMPACT, COST, IMPACT ON THAT FOR THIS NEXT YEAR? UH, DEPENDING ON WHEN WE START THE ACADEMY, BUT ROUGHLY EACH POLICE OFFICER IS A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

ONCE IS AFTER THE ACADEMY IS COMPLETED AND THEY BEGIN THEIR PATROL.

SO ROUGHLY IT'S $3.2 MILLION ANNUALLY.

OBVIOUSLY, DEPENDING WHEN WE BEGIN THE ACADEMY CLASS, THE COST FOR 2020 WILL BE LESS THAN THAT.

OKAY.

AND HOW MANY ACADEMY CLASSES ARE WE PLANNING FOR THIS NEXT YEAR? FOUR NEXT YEAR? FOUR.

FOUR.

THAT'S STARTING IN OCTOBER.

SO FOUR TOTAL CLASSES NEXT YEAR? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

AND THAT WILL, LET'S SEE.

DIDN'T YOU, DIDN'T YOU MAKE A COMMITMENT TO BE A HUNDRED PERCENT MANNED BY JULY 8TH? JULY 8TH? AND ERIC IS STILL STANDING BY THAT? ERIC'S NOT STANDING BY.

I AM.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

NO, NO, NO.

.

LET, LET, LET ME, LET ME, LET ME JUST CLARIFY.

WE'VE GOT, AS I SAID, WE'VE GOT 58 VACANCIES RIGHT NOW.

WE'VE GOT A CLASS OF 70 ALREADY SCHEDULED FOR JULY 8TH.

SO UNLESS WE LOSE MORE THAN 12 PEOPLE BETWEEN NOW AND 70, I MEAN, BETWEEN NOW AND JULY 8TH, WE WILL REACH OUR ZERO TARGET.

OKAY.

GREAT.

WELL, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT, YOU AND I BOTH, AND HOPEFULLY, UH, HIT THAT MARK AND STAY ON THAT MARK.

UM, LET'S SEE.

I THINK THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU, CHIEF.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU BOTH.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN PERRY.

COUNCILMAN.

COURAGE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UH, CHIEF, WE HAVE, UH, HOW MANY PATROL AREAS IN THE CITY? 115 DISTRICTS.

PATROL DISTRICTS? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDING A FEW IF YOU GO TO THESE, UH, NIGHT DISTRICTS OR SOMETHING? NO, SIR.

IT WOULD NOT ADD A PATROL DISTRICT.

IT WOULD SIMPLY ADD MORE RESOURCES TO THE PATROL DISTRICTS AFFECTED.

OKAY.

AND HOW MANY OFFICERS PATROL EACH DISTRICT EACH SHIFT? SOME, SOME ONE, SOME ONE CAR? UH, ONE UH, CAR.

SOME TWO CARS.

HOW MANY DO TWO CARS? ABOUT 20, 30, 50.

I, I, I'D HAVE TO LOOK.

I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW MANY TWO CARS.

SO HOW MANY OFFICERS SERVED PER PATROL PERIOD, WOULD YOU SAY? I WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE, WELL, THE, IT WOULD BE, IT PROBABLY, I DUNNO, ONE 70, I'M, I'M GUESSING 1 75.

1 1 50.

OKAY.

I'M NOT SURE.

AND SO IF YOU DO THREE OF THOSE, THAT'S JUST, AND THAT'S JUST IN THE CARS, RIGHT? THAT'S THREE DIFFERENT SHIFTS IN A DAY, IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 500 OFFICERS MAYBE? YES.

OKAY.

THROUGH THE DAY.

PATROL

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DURING A DAY.

UH, BUT YOU'VE GOT ALMOST 2,500 OFFICERS, YOU KNOW, IN UNIFORM.

WHAT DO THE OTHER 2000 DO EVERY DAY? YOU'VE GOT SOME IN, YOU'VE GOT A NUMBER OF DETECTIVES, YOU'VE GOT, UH, YOUR COVERT UNITS, YOU'VE GOT, UM, UH, YOU'VE GOT YOUR, UM, YOUR OFFICERS THAT WORK WITH THE VIPS.

UH, YOU'VE GOT, UH, PIOS, P PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICERS, JUST, IT JUST SPREAD THROUGH A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT ASSIGNMENTS.

IT JUST SEEMS TO ME, YOU KNOW, ONE FIFTH OF YOUR OFFICERS ARE OUT THERE WHERE PEOPLE GET TO SEE THEM, SOMETIMES THEY DON'T.

MM-HMM.

, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS, BUT, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS TO ME THEN FOUR-FIFTHS ARE, YOU KNOW, BEHIND A DESK SOMEWHERE.

MM-HMM.

.

NOW, ADMITTEDLY, DETECTIVES ARE ACTUALLY OUT IN THE FIELD, AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF IN YOUR PATROL YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE MOTORCYCLE OFFICERS.

YES.

ARE THEY, THEY'RE, SO THEY'RE INCLUDED IN THERE, UH, IT SEEMS LIKE A TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC OFFICERS.

RIGHT.

A LOT OF 'EM JUST SEEM TO BE BEHIND THE SCENES, SO TO SPEAK.

NOW, I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD A, AN AGREEMENT WITH FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO HELP SUBSIDIZE BRINGING POLICE OFFICERS IN.

HOW MANY YEARS HAVE WE HAD THAT? ABOUT THREE YEARS, COUNSEL, ABOUT THREE YEARS.

SO, 17, 18, AND 19, YOU'D SAY? YES, SIR.

AND WERE THOSE SUPPOSED TO BE ADDITIONAL POLICE OFFICERS ADDED TO OUR TOTAL NUMBERS? YES.

SO IN 2017, WE HAD, UH, 300, OR I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S 300, UH, 2385 OR 24 0 7.

BUT EITHER WAY, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE SHOULD BE AT LEAST 75 MORE BY NOW.

AND I DON'T THINK THOSE NUMBERS ADD UP TO 75 ADDITIONAL OFFICERS.

AND COUNCILMAN, I, AS THE CITY MANAGER MENTIONED, WE'VE GOTTEN THAT GRANT FOR PROBABLY ABOUT THREE YEARS, THREE TIMES.

WE'LL GET YOU THE EXACT FISCAL YEARS.

UM, UH, EACH OF THE YEARS.

TYPICALLY IT'S ABOUT 25 OFFICERS EACH TIME.

SO THIS, WELL, AND I'M LOOKING AT 2018.

THAT SAID WE HAD 24 45, AND NOW WE'RE PROJECTING 24 47.

THAT'S ONLY INCREASE OF TWO.

SO I, I JUST, I'M NOT SEEING THE INCREASE IN OUR TOTAL SWORN POSITIONS GOING IN LINE WITH ADDING 25 A YEAR FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS.

YEAH.

I'M SORRY, I, I THOUGHT YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT THE INCENTIVE THAT WE GIVE TO RECRUIT MILITARY.

NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT GIVES US MONEY TO ADD 25 UNIFORMED POLICE OFFICERS.

YEAH.

AND, AND SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A, THE, WHAT WE CALL THE COPS GRANT.

THE COPS GRANT, YEAH.

AND THE LAST TIME WE GOT IT WAS IN FISCAL YEAR 2018.

UM, AND WE GOT 25.

SO YOU SEE THAT INCREASE IN THE BLUE LINE FROM 24 0 7 TO 24 45? UH, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

LAST YEAR WE ONLY ADDED TWO, UH, SWORN POSITIONS.

THE POLICY DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL LAST YEAR FOR THIS BUDGET CYCLE WAS TO FOCUS ON FILLING VACANCIES.

AND THAT'S WHAT THE CHIEF HAS BEEN FOCUSING ON.

AND, UH, AND ENSURING THAT WE, UH, DON'T HAVE VACANCIES BY THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR.

SO WE DIDN'T ACCEPT THAT FUNDING TO ADD 25 OFFICERS.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT, THAT WE WERE AWARDED THE GRANT.

OH, DID WE APPLY FOR THE GRANT? WE, WE WERE NOT.

RIGHT.

OH, OKAY.

I SEE.

'CAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS CONDEMNED.

THAT'S WHY I THOUGHT SOMETHING WAS MISSING HERE.

AND, AND JUST TO CLARIFY, COUNCILMAN, THE GRANT IS FOR THREE YEARS.

SO THE 2018 GRANT THAT ADDED 25 POSITION FUNDS, THOSE POSITIONS FOR THREE YEARS, AND THEN THE CITY WILL PICK UP THE FULL COST OF THOSE POSITIONS.

RIGHT.

THERE'S A MATCH THAT WE PROVIDE EVERY YEAR.

RIGHT.

AND BY THE END OF THE GRANT, WE'RE PAYING A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THOSE SALARIES.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

UH, IS THE NUMBER OF OFFICERS, UH, IN THE PATROL AREAS AT ALL LIMITED BY THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES THAT WE HAVE? NO, SIR.

SO THEORETICALLY WE COULD PUT, UH, ANOTHER 150 OFFICERS OUT IN THE FIELD.

115 WANTED TO, I'M WANTED, I THOUGHT YOU MEANT CURRENTLY LIMITED.

WELL, NO, WE WOULD NEED, UH, FOR EVERY, SEE HOW MANY OF THE SIX CARS DO YOU KNOW THE, THE BREAKDOWN? 2.5 FOR YEAH.

EVERY, FOR EVERY TWO AND A HALF OFFICERS, WE NEED A VEHICLE.

MM-HMM.

.

SO I, I'M JUST WONDER.

SO WHENEVER, SO WHENEVER WE BRING, UM, ADDITIONAL OFFICERS ON ABOVE OUR AUTHORIZED STRENGTH, WE ALWAYS INC INCLUDE, INCLUDE THE COST FOR THE VEHICLES.

OKAY.

UM, YOU ALSO MENTIONED ABOUT SAFE OFFICERS ON THE NORTH SIDE.

I UNDERSTOOD THAT WE WERE GETTING TWO, BUT THERE WAS ALSO ANOTHER ONE RETIRING, OR GOT IT PROMOTED OR SOMETHING.

SO WE'D STILL HAVE A VACANCY AT THE NORTH SUBSTATION.

AM I, DID I MISUNDERSTANDING THAT? I HAVE TO CHECK ON THAT.

I KNOW THERE, I KNOW THERE WAS, WAS ONE LEAVING TO, I I THINK IT WAS PROMOTION.

YEAH.

I THINK THAT WE

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HAD THAT HAD THAT COVERED, BUT I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND CHECK.

I KNOW THAT THERE'S TWO VACANT RIGHT NOW.

'CAUSE THEY GOT THEIR PAPERWORK IN LATE.

THEY DIDN'T GET IN, GET THOSE VACANCIES FILLED ALONG WITH ALL THE OTHER SUBS.

BUT THAT'LL HAPPEN BEFORE THE END OF THE MONTH.

OKAY.

BUT IF, IF WE FIND THERE IS A THIRD ONE, IT'LL BE FILLED.

IT, IT COULD BE FILLED.

IT WILL BE FILLED.

OKAY.

UM, IS THERE SOME WIGGLE ROOM, SO TO SPEAK, IN THE NUMBER OF, OF SWORN OFFICERS AND POSITIONS THAT THEY'RE DOING WHERE WE COULD HAVE CIVILIANS DOING THOSE JOBS INSTEAD OF SWORN OFFICERS SO THAT SWORN OFFICERS COULD BE OUT IN THE FIELD AND CIVILIANS COULD BE DOING THAT WORK? IS THERE SOME WIGGLE ROOM? IS THERE SOME FLEXIBILITY IN THAT? NO, SIR.

OKAY.

DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH OUR CONTRACT? WITH THE YES, SIR.

OKAY.

WELL, BARRING THE CONTRACT, WOULD YOU SAY THAT THERE ARE 50 OR A HUNDRED POSITIONS THAT CIVILIANS COULD DO IN THE POLICE FORCE, BUT WE'VE GOT SWORN OFFICERS DOING THEM 'CAUSE OF THE CONTRACT? I, I COULDN'T GIVE YOU AN EXACT NUMBER, BUT THERE ARE, THERE ARE SOME POSITIONS, YES.

OKAY.

SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION, YOU KNOW, IN UPCOMING CONTRACTS MM-HMM.

.

'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY IF WE'RE GONNA PAY SOMEONE TO DO MORE CLERICAL PAPERWORK OR, OR OTHER WORK AT $50,000 A YEAR, THAT'S A BIG SAVINGS AS OPPOSED TO $120,000 A YEAR, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

WE, WE WENT THROUGH THAT EXERCISE A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO.

RIGHT.

AND PUT A LOT OF, A LOT OF OFFICERS BACK ON THE STREET.

RIGHT.

AND, YOU KNOW, I HOPE THAT WE CONSIDER THAT GOING FORWARD.

OF COURSE, WE'VE GOT WHAT, 2022 OR 2020 BEFORE WE DEAL WITH THE NEXT POLICE CONTRACT.

NEXT CONTRACT ENDS IN 2021.

2021.

SO STARTING IN 2020, WE'LL PROBABLY BE TALKING ABOUT THAT.

RIGHT.

AND IT, IT'S AN EXERCISE THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING EVERY COUPLE YEARS ANYWAY.

'CAUSE AS THINGS CHANGE, UM, AND, AND, UM, UM, THAT'S PROBABLY JUST A GOOD PRACTICE ANYWAY, UM, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE RESTRICTED BY THE CONTRACT, BUT THEN AT LEAST WE KNOW, UH, WAY IN ADVANCE SOME KEY AREAS TO TARGET.

ARE THERE ANY, UH, STATE, UH, LAWS OR REGULATIONS THAT LIMIT OUR ABILITY TO GO AHEAD AND SUBSTITUTE CERTAIN TYPES OF POSITIONS? NO, SIR.

NO.

OKAY.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT BARRED BY STATE LAW FROM DOING A FEW THINGS.

NO, AS LONG AS THE CIVILIANS AREN'T ARRESTING PEOPLE.

RIGHT.

I MEAN, I THINK AS, AS, UH, AND THAT'S PART OF THE ANALYSIS THAT WE DID, UH, A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO.

AND I THINK WE, I THINK WE, VE CIVILIANIZED ABOUT 90 POSITIONS, A LITTLE OVER 90 POSITIONS AND MOVED OFFICERS BACK OUT TO THE FIELD.

UM, AND THERE WERE PROBABLY SEVEN OR EIGHT LARGE AREAS WHERE WE, WHERE WE PULLED THEM FROM AND PUT IT, PUT CIVILIANS INTO PLACE.

BUT THERE ARE, THERE ARE SOME FUNCTIONS THAT ARE, UH, PROBABLY BETTER SUITED TO, UM, UH, CIVILIAN FUNCTIONS OR EVEN A COMBINATION OF UNIFORM AND CIVILIAN, WHERE YOU HAVE, UM, A COMPONENT OF SUPERVISION, MAYBE THROUGH A UNIFORM SERGEANT OR A LIEUTENANT.

BUT A LOT OF THE GROUNDWORK, UH, CAN BE DONE BY, COULD BE DONE BY CIVILIANS.

RIGHT.

I JUST REALIZED WE'RE, WE'RE FACING SOME BUDGET CONSTRAINTS, MAYBE NOT QUITE AS MUCH THIS NEXT BUDGET YEAR THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

YOU KNOW, 2020, ALTHOUGH WITH THE FIREFIGHTERS CONTRACTS STILL TO BE RESOLVED, THERE COULD BE A BIG BUDGET CRUNCH.

BUT THEN THE YEAR AFTER, WHEN WE REAL, WHEN WE'VE GOT INTO OUR CAP, WHEN AGAIN, WE'RE NOT RECEIVING THE MONEY WE'VE BEEN RECEIVING, UH, ON EN FRANCHISE FEES, WE MAY BE IN A MUCH GREATER FINANCIAL CRUNCH.

AND I THINK THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, IF THE CONTRACT'S COMING UP, IF WE CAN SAVE MONEY BUT STILL ENABLE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO DO ITS JOB, THEN I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO LOOK VERY CLOSELY AT THAT.

SO I'LL BE ASKING YOU TO MAYBE DO ADDITIONAL RESEARCH COME UP AND LET US KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT.

SURE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YES, SIR.

THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN COURAGE.

COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UH, THANK YOU ERIC, FOR SETTING UP THESE, UH, BRIEFINGS IN ADVANCE OF OUR, UH, RETREAT OR WORK SESSION NEXT WEEK.

I JUST, UH, HAD A QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU, CHIEF.

UM, YOU MENTIONED, UH, SOMETHING ABOUT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN YOUR PRESENTATION.

UM, LAST WEEK THERE WAS A COMMENTARY IN THE PAPER, UH, FROM SOMEONE NAMED MICHAEL JOHN MCCAINS, WHO USED TO WORK IN YES SIR.

IN PD.

AND THERE WAS A DISCUSSION IN THERE ABOUT A, A PRIOR VICTIMS ADVOCACY PROGRAM.

AND IT WAS RECOMMENDED FOR, UM, FOR RE HE RECOMMENDED IT FOR REINSTATEMENT.

UH, HE SAID THAT IF WE WERE GOING TO MAKE PROGRESS ON, UH, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, THAT THAT WOULD BE ONE, ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE COULD DO IT.

COULD YOU SPEAK TO, UH, ARE THERE VESTIGES OF THAT PROGRAM LEFT? AND I WAS A LITTLE PUZZLED WHEN I READ THAT BECAUSE WE NEVER GOT RID OF OUR VICTIM'S

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ADVOCACY PROGRAM.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT.

AND ARE THERE CHANGES YOU WOULD RECOMMEND FOR US TO WORK ON DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TO IMPROVE OUR WORK ON THAT RIGHT NOW? CHANGES IN TERMS OF WHAT POLICE DO, UH, OR COULD DO MM-HMM.

.

UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THAT I'D, I'D BE BETTER ABLE TO ANSWER THAT SITTING DOWN WITH DR.

BRIDGER AND SOME OTHER ADVOCACY GROUPS.

AND WE, WE, WE ARE SCHEDULED TO DO THAT, BUT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A, A, UH, FROM A TO Z, WE'VE GOT, UH, EVERY STEP OF THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ISSUE COVERED, UM, FROM THE TIME THE REPORT'S TAKEN TO THE, UM, PROTECTION ORDERS TO, UH, HAVING A DETECTIVE AT THE TWO DETECTIVES AT THE, UH, UH, FAMILY JUSTICE CENTER.

UM, SO I, I THINK, I THINK THERE ARE, ARE PROBABLY MORE HEADS ARE BETTER THAN ONE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE MIGHT GO FURTHER ON THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ISSUE.

AND I, I, I'VE, I'VE, I'VE COMMENTED, COMMENTED, UM, SOMEWHAT SADLY, THAT WITH ALL OF THE, THE FIREPOWER IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM AND WITH ALL THE ADVOCACY GROUPS TRYING TOGETHER, TRYING TO DO A, A BETTER JOB OR, OR TRYING TO GET A HANDLE ON DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, THE NUMBERS JUST KEEP GOING UP.

SO I THINK IT, I THINK IT, YOU KNOW, THE BEST PATH TO TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING BETTER IS FOR THE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, MORE HEDGE THAN ONE TO SIT DOWN AND TRY TO FIGURE IT OUT.

YOU KNOW, COUNCILMAN, LET ME ADD THAT BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S SOMETHING, AND I, WE TALKED ABOUT IT SEVERAL WEEKS AGO.

IT MAY BE DURING THE FORECAST PRESENTATION IN THIS ROOM.

UM, AND BEYOND, UM, STAFFING AND NEW LAWS, THE, THE QUESTION, AND, AND I THINK WE'LL PROBABLY TOUCH A LITTLE BIT UPON THIS DURING DR.

BRIDGE'S PRESENTATION, BUT FOR ACTUALLY BOTH THESE DEPARTMENTS, POLICE AND FIRE, FROM A POLICY STANDPOINT, UM, ARE THERE POLICIES THAT WE SHOULD BE ENACTING IN CHIEF MCMANUS, GENERAL MANUAL AND CHIEF HOOD'S RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT HELP, UM, ARM AND CONNECT, UH, OUR TWO LARGEST DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE DEALING WITH IT FROM EITHER AN EMERGENCY MEDICAL STANDPOINT OR A CALL FOR HELP, POTENTIAL VIOLENCE SITUATION? ARE THERE POLICIES WE CAN PUT IN PLACE TO BETTER ALIGN, UH, TO THE TARGET OF MAKING AN IMPACT? AND I THINK THAT'S PART OF A BROADER CONVERSATION THAT WE NEED TO HAVE, UH, NOT JUST INTERNALLY, BUT UM, WITH THE COUNTY BECAUSE, UM, IF THERE ARE POLICIES THAT SHOULD BE ENACTED, THEY SHOULD BE, MY SENSE WOULD BE THEY SHOULD BE CONSISTENT BETWEEN ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES, POTENTIALLY IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, SO THAT WE'RE TREATING THOSE TYPES OF CASES THE SAME AND WE'RE ARMING POLICE OFFICERS AND FIREFIGHTERS OR PARAMEDICS WITH MORE THAN THE LAW TO ENFORCE, BUT PROCEDURALLY HOW THEY SHOULD DEAL OR REPORT OR FOLLOW UP ON, ON THOSE TYPES OF CASES.

SO IT'S A, I THINK IT'S A MUCH BROADER CONVERSATION AS WELL.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I LOOK FORWARD TO IT.

THANK YOU, CHIEF.

THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN SANDOVAL.

COUNCILMAN PALS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UH, CHIEF, THE, UH, CIVIL FORFEITURE, UH, OR THE CURRENCY SEIZED, UH, I, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT A LITTLE BETTER.

IS, IS THE $747,000 THAT WERE SEIZED, WERE THOSE SEIZED BY, BY S A P D? OR IS THAT MONEY THAT ALSO CAME IN AS PART OF THE SPLIT WITH THE COUNTY? AND THAT'S, THAT'S MONEY AFTER? YOU MEAN ON THE, ON THE, ON THE SLIDE? YEAH.

NO, THAT'S, UH, I BELIEVE THAT'S BEFORE THE SPLIT.

SO BEFORE THE SPLIT, WE S A P D SEIZED $747,000.

YES.

OKAY.

CAN, CAN SOMEBODY COME AND TALK TO ME A LITTLE BIT LATER ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE GET AFTER THE SPLIT, HOW WE SPEND THAT MONEY? SURE.

HOW WE DECIDE WHERE THAT MONEY GOES, HOW WE HAVE SPENT THAT MONEY IN THE PAST, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

COUNCILMAN, I CAN JUST SAY REAL QUICKLY, THE ANNUAL AMOUNT THAT WE GET, LIKE FOR FISCAL YEAR 2019 WAS 1.2 MILLION.

SO WITH THE CHIEF SHOWN THE SLIDE IS WHAT WE'VE DONE THROUGH A 2019 CALENDAR YEAR.

OKAY.

BUT WE'LL BE HAPPY TO COME AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE PROGRAMS AND HOW WE SPEND THAT MONEY.

THANK YOU.

AND, AND REALLY, I WANT TO PUT MY ARMS AROUND THIS.

'CAUSE WE'VE ALL, AND CHIEF, YOU KNOW, THIS AS WELL AS EVERYBODY ELSE DOES.

THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, POLICE, UH, AGENCIES OUT THERE THAT ABUSE, UH,

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THE ABILITY TO SEIZE ASSETS, UM, AND TO DO THE CIVIL FORFEITURE, UM, STUFF.

OTHERS DON'T.

UM, AND THERE'S A LOT OF DISTRUST AROUND THAT.

IT MAKES FOR REALLY, I MEAN, I MEAN, IT'S JUST PERFECT AMMO, RIGHT? AND FUEL FOR THE FIRE.

AND SO WHAT I WANT TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE, YOU KNOW, TO GIVE PEOPLE, UH, CONFIDENCE THAT WE'RE DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY, NOT JUST THE LEGAL WAY, RIGHT.

BUT THAT WE'RE BEING ETHICAL ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DO DO CIVIL ASSET FORFEITURE.

UM, AND THEN NUMBER TWO, THAT MONEY, BY THE WAY, IS, IS, UH, ONLY THE AMOUNT SEIZED BY THE VIOLENT CRIME TASK FORCE.

GOOD.

E EVEN BETTER, RIGHT? BUT THERE'S, THERE'S OTHER FUNDS, RIGHT, THAT CAN BE SEIZED AND PROPERTIES THAT CAN BE SEIZED AND ALL THAT IF, IF IT'S SUSPECTED RIGHT? AND THEN THERE'S THAT PREPONDERANCE OF THE EVIDENCE STANDARD AS OPPOSED TO WHATEVER, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS, IS URGE, UH, THAT IF THERE IS FLEXIBILITY IN HOW WE CAN SPEND THAT MONEY, UM, THAT'S A PERFECT AMOUNT OF MONEY TO SPEND ON DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PROGRAMS. UM, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S FOR POLICING, UM, IT, IT, IT SOUNDS LIKE, I'M SURE THERE'S A, THERE'S A WAY FOR US TO DIRECT THAT MONEY TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, POLICING, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, UM, TRAINING, YOU KNOW, READINESS PREVENTION, EDUCATION, ET CETERA.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY COMMENT.

YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

AND, AND, AND, AND, UM, UNDER THE RULES OF ASSET FORFEITURE FUNDS AND THE USE, UM, CRIME PREVENTION IS INELIGIBLE USE, AND THERE'S GOTTA BE, IT'S, IT'S VERY TIGHTLY GOVERNED.

BUT, BUT WE HAVE INITIATED CONVERSATION THIS PAST FALL THAT CAME OUT OF A MEETING I HAD PROBABLY TWO MONTHS AGO WITH A NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP THAT WAS ASKING QUESTIONS ALONG THE SAME LINES AND, AND RECOGNIZING, AND, AND, WE'LL, THIS IS PART, BE PART OF THE INFORMATION WE SHARE WITH EVERYBODY, KIND OF THE ASSET ASSET FORFEITURE FUNDS.

WHAT DO WE DO WITH THAT MONEY AND, AND, UH, WHAT, HOW BIG THE BUDGET IS BECAUSE I, I CAN FORESEE, UM, DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY WITH SOME OF THAT MONEY AS PART OF THIS YEAR'S PROPOSED BUDGET.

DEFINITELY.

YEAH.

SO, YOU KNOW, A, A SPECIFIC ASK, SINCE THIS IS BUDGET, A BUDGET CONVERSATION, IS IF WE COULD GIVE SOME THOUGHT TO SPECIFICALLY EARMARKING THAT MONEY FOR PURPOSES OF EDUCATING OUR L G B T Q COMMUNITY ABOUT THEIR POLICING OPTIONS, UH, YOU KNOW, RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO THEM.

I, I'VE GOTTEN TO MEET WITH THE MAYOR'S COMMISSION ON L G B T, UM, UH, ISSUES.

UH, AND WHAT THERE SEEMS TO BE, THERE IS AN URGENCY TO HAVE MORE INTERFACE WITH SS A P D AND THE DIFFERENT AGENCIES THAT TACKLE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

UM, AND QUITE HONESTLY, THERE'S NO SHORTAGE OF RESOURCES.

THEY JUST DON'T KNOW ABOUT THEM.

RIGHT.

AND SO IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S A REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO SPEND SOME OF OUR EFFORTS OR IN SOME OF OUR RESOURCES IN OUTREACH IN THAT CAPACITY.

THE SECOND, UM, CHIEF IS, AND THIS IS ON BEHALF OF MY CHIEF OF STAFF AND ALL THE LADIES IN MY OFFICE, IS, YOU KNOW, THAT MOST HANDSOME POLICE OFFICER CALENDAR YOU GUYS PUT OUT, UH, HOW MUCH MONEY DO WE GET FROM SELLING THOSE MILLIONS? , I KNOW THAT YOU WERE IN THE LAST, YOU WERE IN THE LAST ONE CHIEF, SO, YOU KNOW .

YEAH, .

ALRIGHT.

CHIEF .

THANKS, MAYOR.

THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN FLIES.

COUNCILMAN VIRA.

AND BY THE WAY, I, I ONLY GOT SELECTED BECAUSE THE GUY WHO WAS GONNA BE MR. OCTOBER BAILED OUT FOR SOME REASON .

SO I WAS THE OCTOBER SURPRISE AND, UH, CONGRATULATIONS CHIEF ON SPEAKING AT YOUR, UM, AT JOHNS HOPKINS.

YEAH.

HOPKINS.

AND, UH, CONGRATULATIONS ON ADDRESSING THE, THE GRADUATES.

THANK YOU.

UM, GOING, CONTINUING THE CONVERSATION ABOUT, I FORGOT TO MENTION THIS ON SLIDE 14, THE STAFFING PRIORITIES AND THE C R T, UM, ENHANCEMENT.

UM, I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED ABOUT SITTING, YOU WANTING TO SIT DOWN WITH DR.

BRIDGER.

AND I THINK THAT'S ABSOLUTELY IMPORTANT, UM, AS WE DO THAT, BECAUSE ALTHOUGH I, UH, AM APPRECIATIVE OF WANTING YOU ALL WANTING TO HAVE ENHANCEMENTS AND THESE ARE YOUR PRIORITIES, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU DO SIT DOWN WITH DR.

BRIDGER AND ALL OF OUR ADVOCATES THAT HAVE BEEN A PART OF THIS TO SEE IS THIS THE BEST WAY FORWARD FOR OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL.

UM, 'CAUSE I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE, THE SERGEANTS AND THE SUPERVISORY OVERSIGHT.

YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WAS TWO WEEKS AGO AT CITIZENS TO BE HEARD.

WE HAD A WOMAN COME UP AND SHARE HER STORY.

SHE WAS VERY COURAGEOUS IN SHARING HER STORY.

SHE ALSO SH SHARED PICTURES AND SHE TALKED ABOUT THE DEFICIENCIES OF SS A P D AND HOW THEY DID NOT HELP HER WITH HER PROTECTIVE ORDER THAT SHE NEEDED BECAUSE IT WAS ON A WEEKEND.

SO WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAKE SURE THAT CRTS ARE CIVILIANS, THAT WE HAVE THE CIVILIANS THAT WE NEED ON THE WEEKENDS, AND ARE THE SERGEANTS GOING TO BE THE ONES THEN WALKING

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WARRANTS AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY NEED TO DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO? OR, OR ARE THE DETECTIVES WALKING WARRANTS AND WRITING THE REPORTS? WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT CIRCLE IS CONNECTED.

SO, ALTHOUGH I'M VERY, VERY HAPPY THIS, THIS IS GONNA BE ONE OF OUR PRIORITIES.

'CAUSE I THINK WE'VE MENTIONED IT ALREADY MULTIPLE TIMES, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IS CONNECTED AND PROTECTED AS WELL, THAT WE HAVE OUR C R T CIVILIANS OUT THERE IF WE CAN ON THE WEEKENDS AS WELL.

AND I KNOW THEY HAVE DIFFERENT SHIFTS, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE, 'CAUSE THIS WOMAN TALKED ABOUT HOW IT WAS THE WEEKEND WHEN THIS HAPPENED, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE IS COVERED.

UM, I ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I'M, SO I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE HAVING THE CONVERSATION WITH DR.

BRIDGER, BUT IT ALSO HAS TO BE WITH ALL OF OUR ADVOCATES, UM, ALL OF OUR ADVOCACY GROUPS.

AND I WOULD SAY TOO, WITH THE COUNCIL COLLEAGUES AND WHAT WE ARE HEARING FROM OUR CONSTITUENTS AND OUR RESIDENTS IN THE AREA AS WELL.

SO I WANTED TO KNOW TOO, WHY ARE YOU LOOKING AT SERGEANTS AND NOT PATROL OFFICERS? OR COULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD LOOK AT FOR ENHANCEMENTS OF SERGEANTS OR, OR A MIXTURE OF SERGEANT CIVILIANS AND PATROLS FOR, FOR THESE ENHANCEMENTS OF C R T? IF, IF I CAN JUST CLARIFY FROM MY OWN UNDERSTANDING, I ARE YOU TALKING, WE, WE'VE REPLACED OFFICERS WHO WERE C R T WITH DETECTIVES AND NOW WE'RE, AND, AND, AND THOSE, THAT GROUP CAME UNDER SAFE.

SO IT WAS THE SAFE SERGEANT WHO WAS SUPERVISING SAFE OFFICERS AND C R T INVESTIGATORS WHEN THE OFFICERS WERE THERE, THEY DID NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO SEE A CASE THROUGH FROM START TO FINISH BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT DETECTIVES.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

SO ONCE THEY GOT TO A CERTAIN POINT IN THE CASE, THEY WOULD'VE TO TURN THAT CASE OVER TO A, TO A, A DETECTIVE IN, UH, SS V U.

NOW WITH A DETECTIVE IN C R T, THEY CAN HANDLE THE CASE FROM START TO FINISH.

WE WANT A SERGEANT, WE WANNA SPLIT THEM OUT OF SAFE BECAUSE THEY, THEY NEED MORE ATTENTION.

THEY NEED, UM, UM, MORE DIRECT SUPERVISION INTO THEIR CASES.

SO WE SPLIT THEM FROM SAFE, AND NOW THEY'VE GOT A SERGEANT DEDICATED ONLY TO C R T, UH, WHICH WILL BETTER SERVE THAT PURPOSE.

OKAY, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

SO NOW, SO THEY WERE SHARING SAFE AND C R T? YES.

THE SERGEANTS WERE.

SO, SO, SO I'M A SAFE SERGEANT VANCE IS A SAFE OFFICER, AND YOU'RE A C R D DETECTIVE, AND I'M SUPERVISING BOTH OF YOU.

MM-HMM.

, WE WANT TO SPLIT THAT AND BE MORE, UM, UM, UM, CENTERED ON, ON SIMPLY C R T INVESTIGATIONS.

OKAY.

AND SO THE DETECTIVES, THE DETECTIVES CAN BE THERE AT THE FRONT END WHEN A CALL COMES IN WHEN THEY HAVE TO GO AND GIVE A PROTECTIVE ORDER AS WELL? YES.

OKAY.

YES, MA'AM.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UH, FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

AND I DO WANT TO SEE STILL, UM, WITH IF THE FILLING OF THAT GAP FOR THE WEEKENDS AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THESE, UM, THIS COMPREHENSIVE CONVERSATION WHEN IT COMES TO OUR, OUR CRTS AND OUR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

THANK YOU.

YES, MA'AM.

AND, AND JUST, JUST A ADDED NOTE, DR.

BRIDGE AND I HAVE, UH, BEEN HAVING THIS DISCUSSION, UM, THIS AND OTHER DISCUSSIONS ABOUT CRIME AND, AND HOW IT RELATES TO PUBLIC HEALTH FOR, FOR MONTHS NOW.

SO, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT NEW, BUT WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THAT NOW FOR SOME TIME.

I, I APPRECIATE THAT AND I'M GLAD, AND I'M GLAD YOU'RE, YOU ALSO ALL DO SEE THE, THE STATUS OF WOMEN IN SAN ANTONIO AND BEAR COUNTY AND HOW IT IS ONE OF THE DANGEROUS COUNTIES FOR WOMEN TO BE IN.

YES, MA'AM.

SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO A LOT OF, UM, ADVANCES THAT WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH IN THESE NEXT TWO YEARS.

YES, MA'AM.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN GRO.

COUNCILMAN COUNCILWOMAN, UH, GONZALEZ.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MARIN.

AND, UH, I JUST, UH, I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GREAT RECOMMENDATION, COUNCILMAN, ABOUT REDIRECTING THOSE FUNDS.

SO, UM, I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I THINK WE'LL GET MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE L G B T Q COMMUNITY AS WE'RE LEARNING ABOUT, UM, ALL THE AREAS OF VIOLENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

BUT I JUST ALSO WANT TO EXPRESS MY CONCERN FOR THE ISSUE.

UH, AND I THINK AS WE, YOU KNOW, HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR SOURCES OF FUNDING, UH, THAT WE TAKE THEM ALL VERY SERIOUSLY.

AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GREAT RECOMMENDATION.

I JUST WANTED TO, UH, GIVE YOU A SECOND OR SOMETHING, UH, AS WE HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION.

BUT I KNOW THAT REALLY THE KEY TO ALL OF THIS IS PREVENTION, AND I FEEL LIKE WE HAVEN'T SPENT ENOUGH TIME ON THAT PART.

AND SO, WHILE I KNOW THAT, THAT THE DEPARTMENT HAS AN IMPORTANT ROLE, UM, I, I

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REALLY WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS IT BEFORE IT COMES, EVER COMES TO YOUR, I AGREE TO YOUR DOOR.

SO I HOPE THAT THAT'S WHERE WE'LL SEE THE BULK OF THE WORK BEING DONE.

BUT, UM, LIKE THE COUNCILWOMAN SAID, WE, WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE HEAD ON, AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SOME CREATIVE SOLUTIONS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN GONZALEZ.

COUNCILMAN SALDANA.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

JUST A COMMENT.

CHIEF, UH, IT'S BEEN SO GREAT TO GET TO WORK WITH YOU AND YOUR DEPARTMENT.

I KNOW THAT THE DISTRICT FOUR, UH, REPRESENTATIVES, UH, ARE GRATEFUL, UM, IN, IN YOUR SERVICE.

THAT AND YOUR ENTIRE TEAM AND STAFF, UH, YOU, YOU DID A REALLY GREAT JOB IN COMING OUT TO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.

THAT'S THE SAME RECOMMENDATION I WOULD OFFER TO MY, UH, MY INCOMING COUNCILWOMAN ELECT, UH, IS THAT YOU'VE MADE YOURSELF AVAILABLE.

I HOPE YOU'LL CONTINUE TO KEEP UP THAT ENERGY.

UM, I KNOW THAT WAS ONE OF THESE COMMITMENTS THAT YOU MADE WHEN YOU CAME BACK FOR YOUR SECOND TOUR OF DUTY TO SAN ANTONIO, UH, AFTER YOUR LITTLE HIATUS.

UH, BUT HE'S BEEN TRUE TO HIS WORD.

HE'S BEEN PRESIDENT IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND, BUT FOR FAMILY THAT, YOU KNOW, CHIEF, I KNOW YOU HAVE A YOUNG FAMILY, BUT FOR FAMILY ACCOMPLISHMENTS, AWARDS AND EVENTS, YOU'LL MAKE THESE EVENING EVENTS.

AND I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND YOUR TEAM, JOE FRANK, YOU'VE BEEN INCREDIBLY RESPECT, RESPONSIVE TO ISSUES AND, AND THINGS THAT HAVE COME, COME OUR WAY.

SO THANK YOU FROM ALL OF US.

ABSOLUTELY.

THANKS YOU.

THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN SALDANA.

THANK YOU GUYS.

THANKS SIR.

UH, FOR MORE TO COME, ERIC, WE GOT OUR SECOND ROUND.

YES, SIR.

WE'LL START OFF WITH, UH, LORI HOUSTON.

AND THEN, UH, DR.

BRIDGER WILL, UH, HANDLE THE SECOND PRESENTATION ON DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND TRAUMA-INFORMED CARE.

MAYOR, I ASKED, UH, LORI TO DO THIS PRESENTATION TODAY.

VETO, UM, UH, HAD A PREVIOUS, UH, SCHEDULED, UM, TRIP WITH HER MOTHER, UH, TO THE VATICAN.

AND I, AND I TOLD HER, I SAID, DON'T UPSET THE POPE OR YOUR MOTHER .

WE'LL, WE'LL HANDLE THE PRESENTATION.

YOU CAN HELP US WITH THE FOLLOW UP.

UH, CERTAINLY NOT AT THE SAME TIME EITHER.

NO, NO .

SO THANK YOU ERIC, AND GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

UM, TODAY'S DISCUSSION THAT I'LL BE PRESENTING IS ON THE BUDGET POLICY ISSUE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THIS HAS BEEN A MAJOR PRIORITY OVER THE PAST COUPLE YEARS.

IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2019 BUDGET IN INCLUDED $26.1 MILLION IN FUNDING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAMS. NOW, THESE PROGRAMS ARE ADMINISTERED BY OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOUSING SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

AND HERE WITH ME TODAY TO REPRESENT THE DEPARTMENT IS MIKE, I T N, OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, IAN BENAVIDES, WHO IS OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADMINISTRATOR, JENNIFER BUXTON, WHO OVERSEES OUR HOME REHAB PROGRAMS. AND ISABEL HERNANDEZ, WHO IS OUR DEPARTMENT FISCAL, UM, DEPARTMENT FISCAL ADMINISTRATOR.

SO THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE, AND AS WELL AS SONY PERNELL, WHO IS OUR CONTRACTS MANAGER.

SO BEFORE WE GO INTO THE PRESENTATION, JUST WANNA DO A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS.

AND WE DEFINE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS WHEN OUR HOUSING IS AFFORDABLE, WHEN NO MORE THAN 30% OF A HOUSEHOLD'S INCOME GOES TOWARDS HOUSING COSTS.

NOW, THIS HAS BECOME MORE DIFFICULT, BOTH NATIONALLY AND LOCALLY BECAUSE THE COST OF HOUSING HAS INCREASED, BUT 4.9% ANNUALLY BETWEEN 2005 AND 2016.

WHILE OUR INCOMES HAVE ONLY INCREASED ABOUT 1.9% BETWEEN 2005 AND 2016.

SO HOUSING COSTS ARE OUTPACING THE INCREASES IN OUR INCOME, AND THAT MAKES IT MORE CHALLENGING FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO MEET THAT 30% OR BELOW INCOME REQUIREMENT.

AND AS A RESULT, WE HAVE ABOUT 165,000 HOUSEHOLDS IN SAN ANTONIO THAT ARE SPENDING MORE THAN 30% OF THEIR INCOME ON HOUSING.

AND THAT REPRESENTS ONE THIRD OF SAN ANTONIANS.

SO THE CORE ISSUES FOR HOUSING AFFORDABILITY INCLUDE HOUSING COSTS, OUTPACING INCOME, GROWING HOUSING, AFFORDABILITY, GAP, MORE INCOME IS SPENT ON HOUSING.

THERE IS A MISMATCH OF OUR SUPPLY AND DEMAND FOR HOUSING.

THERE'S A DECREASE IN HOME OWNERSHIP.

BETWEEN 2005 AND 2016, HOME OWNERSHIP INCREASED FROM 61% TO

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54%.

AND THEN NEIGHBORHOOD CHANGE IN DISPLACEMENT.

WE'VE EXPERIENCED A RAPID GROWTH AND CHANGE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

AND SO TO ADDRESS THIS, THE MAYOR CREATED THE MAYOR'S HOUSING TASK FORCE IN 2017.

THEY'RE CREATED IN AUGUST OF 2017, AND THEIR TASK WAS TO CREATE A COMPREHENSIVE AND COMPASSIONATE FRAMEWORK THAT ALLOWS RESIDENTS TO LIVE WITH DIGNITY, AGE IN PLACE, REHABILITATE THEIR HOUSING, AND PRESERVE THE INTEGRITY OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.

THE POLICY TASK FORCE WAS LED BY LOURDES RAMIREZ, LOURDES CASTRO, RAMIREZ, AND IT INCLUDED SEVERAL OTHER COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS.

IT HAD A COMPREHENSIVE AND ROBUST COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT STRATEGY.

AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE PRESENTED BY THE TASK FORCE TO CITY COUNCIL IN JUNE OF 2018.

AND CITY COUNCIL ACCEPTED THE PLAN IN AUGUST OF 2018.

THE MAIN PRIORITIES IN THAT PLAN INCLUDE INCREASED CITY INVESTMENT AND HOUSING, INCREASE ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE PUBLIC, DEVELOP A COORDINATED HOUSING SYSTEM, PROTECT AND PROMOTE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, AND INCREASE PRODUCTION AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AFFORDABLE REHAB PROGRAMS, AND PRESERVATION OF HOUSING.

AND TO DO THIS, THE TASK FORCE RECOMMENDED A 10 YEAR FUNDING PLAN TO HELP US FUND THESE PRIORITIES.

THE FISCAL YEAR 2019 BUDGET INCLUDED $26.1 MILLION TO HELP FUND THE HOUSING POLICY TASK FORCE.

TASK FORCE PRIORITIES SUCH AS PRODUCTION, REHAB, AND PRESERVATION AND DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE WERE ALLOCATED 23.7 MILLION OF THAT 26.1 MILLION.

NOW, WHAT DID WE GET FOR THAT FUNDING? SO, WITH REGARDS TO HOUSING PRODUCTION, WE DEDICATED 7.75 MILLION FOR HOUSING PRODUCTION OF BOTH RENTAL AND OWNERSHIP.

WE PRODUCED ABOUT 625 UNITS.

AS A RESULT OF THAT $7.75 MILLION INVESTMENT, OUR TARGET WAS TO PRODUCE 111 UNITS.

SO WE'VE EXCEEDED THAT.

WE ALSO HAD REHAB AND PRESERVATION FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF ABOUT $12 MILLION, AND THAT HELPED PRODUCE ABOUT 650 HOMES THAT RECEIVED ASSISTANCE, EITHER THROUGH OUR UNDER ONE ROOF PROGRAM OR OWNER-OCCUPIED REHAB PROGRAM, OUR MINOR REPAIR PROGRAM, OUR LET'S PAINT, OR OUR GREEN AND HEALTHY HOMES PROGRAM.

AND THEN FINALLY, WE HAD ABOUT 3.25 MILLION FOR OUR DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE, AND WE WERE ABLE TO FACILITATE 265 DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE LOANS.

SO THAT $23.7 MILLION HELPED 1,518 UNITS EITHER BE PRODUCED, REHABBED, OR PRESERVED.

CITY COUNCIL ALSO SET UP A RISK MITIGATION FUND, AND THAT WAS RECENTLY APPROVED BY COUNCIL.

THE GOAL WAS FOR US TO HAVE A FUND THAT PROVIDED FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE FOR RENT OR RELOCATION COSTS FOR INDIVIDUALS FACING AT AN ADVERSE EVENT OR DISPLACEMENT.

OUR GOAL WAS TO PROVIDE 200 FAMILIES ASSISTANCE AND WE'RE ON TARGET TO MEET THAT GOAL.

NOW, ONE OF THE OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE HOUSING TASK FORCE REPORT WAS TO CREATE A COORDINATED HOUSING SYSTEM, AND THEY ALSO CREATED TARGET GOALS FOR THE AMIS FOR BOTH RENTAL AND OWNER OCCUPIED HOUSING.

SO WHAT CITY STAFF DID, IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROVIDERS, OUR PUBLIC FACILITIES CORPORATION, WHICH IS LED BY COUNCILWOMAN VIA GRAND, AS WELL AS THE SAN ANTONIO HOUSING AUTHORITY, AND BOTH NONPROFIT HOUSING PROVIDERS AND FOR-PROFIT, HER HOUSING PROVIDERS, IS WE CREATED A PIPELINE OF HOUSING UNITS.

THEY'VE EITHER RECEIVED INCENTIVES ALREADY OR THEY'VE BEEN APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL THROUGH THE PROGRAMS THAT WERE ADOPTED AS A RESULT OF THAT $26.1 MILLION.

AND SO FOR RENTAL, WE HAVE 38 PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE PIPELINE THAT'LL PRODUCE ABOUT 6,500 UNITS.

AND THESE UNITS CAN BE CATEGORIZED BY THE A M I TARGETS THAT THE TASK FORCE REPORT PRESENTED.

SO FOR THE 30 TO 60% A M I TARGET FOR RENTAL, THE TARGET WAS 9,516.

NOW, CITY STAFF WENT AHEAD AND ADJUSTED THAT TARGET BECAUSE THAT'S A PRETTY WIDE RANGE BETWEEN 30 AND 60% A M I, AND WE ASSIGNED A THIRD TO EACH OF THOSE AMIS.

SO A THIRD WENT FROM 30 TO 40, A THIRD WENT FOR 40 TO 50, AND A THIRD FOR 50 TO 60.

SO OUR TARGET FOR HOUSING BETWEEN 30 TO 50% A M I FOR RENTAL WAS 6,344 UNITS.

OUR PIPELINE SHOWS THAT WE HAVE ABOUT 897

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UNITS THAT WILL BE PRODUCED TO MEET THAT A M I GOAL.

NOW, THE TARGET FOR 50 TO 60% A M I WAS 3,172.

WE HAVE ABOUT 4,100 UNITS IN THE PIPELINE THAT'LL MEET THAT TARGET.

SO WHAT THIS IS SHOWING IS, YOU KNOW, WE CAN MEET THAT 50 TO 60% A M I, BUT WE REALLY NEED TO BE FOCUSING ON THE 50% A M I OR BELOW.

NOW, AT THE END, WE WENT AHEAD AND DID A PERCENT OF OUR TARGET MET.

THE GOAL IS TO BE AT 10% OR ABOVE, AND WE ARE IN, WE ARE ABOVE 10% IN ALL AREAS, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE LESS THAN 30% A M I RANGE.

SO WE HAD A GOAL OF 1,701 UNITS.

WE'VE ONLY BEEN ABLE TO PRODUCE OR FACILITATE 139 OF THOSE UNITS.

SO WE'RE AT 8% OF THAT GOAL.

AND THAT REALLY SPEAKS TO THE ISSUE OF IT TAKES A LOT OF RESOURCE TO HELP FUND THAT MOST VULNERABLE POPULATION IN THEIR HOUSING.

THE NEXT IS FOR OUR OWNERSHIP UNIT, PRODUCTION, REHAB, AND PRESERVATION.

AND SO WHAT OUR PIPELINE SHOWED IN PARTNERSHIP WITH ALL OF OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROVIDERS IS WE HAVE 35 PROJECTS IN THE PIPELINE AND 905 UNITS.

NOW, THE GOAL FOR THE 60 TO 80% A M I WAS 3,532.

AND WE HAVE ABOUT 13.76% OF THAT GOAL.

WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO PRODUCE OR FACILITATE 486 UNITS.

THE GOAL FOR THE 80 TO 120% A M I IS 2,766.

AND WE'RE AT ABOUT 15% OF THAT GOAL.

AND THIS INCLUDES ALL OF OUR PROJECTS THAT WE ARE EITHER, UM, USING OUR FUNDING FOR UNDER ONE ROOF, LET'S PAINT THEIR GREEN AND HEALTHY HOMES, OUR OWNER OCCUPIED REHAB AND MINOR REPAIR PROGRAMS, AND OUR DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS, AS WELL AS OUR PRODUCTION FOR OWNER-OCCUPIED AFFORDABLE HOMES.

SO WE'RE ON TARGET TO MEET THOSE GOALS.

THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE IS REALLY GOING TO BE TRYING TO IDENTIFY FUNDS AND PRODUCE THOSE UNITS FOR THAT 50% A M I OR BELOW AS A RESULT OF THIS EXERCISE.

AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE HAD 38 RENTAL UNITS, RENTAL PROJECTS IN OUR PIPELINE AND 35 OWNERSHIP PROJECTS IN OUR PIPELINE.

WE KNOW THAT WE'VE HAVE ABOUT $422 MILLION WORTH OF ASSISTANCE DEDICATED TO THOSE UNITS, AND THAT INCLUDES 361 MILLION IN OUR HOUSING TAX CREDITS.

AND SO THOSE ARE THE TAX CREDITS THAT, THAT COME TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT, EITHER FOR THE 4% OR 9% PROGRAM.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, OF THE 38 RENTAL UNITS, 24 OF THOSE PROJECTS ARE HOUSING TAX CREDIT PROGRAMS. WE HAVE OUR GAP FINANCING OF $14.8 MILLION.

WE ALSO HAVE THE HOUSING BOND OF 7.5 MILLION, OUR CITY AND SAS FEE WAIVERS, AND ABOUT $9 MILLION HELPING THOSE, UM, UNITS.

AND THEN OUR C SHIP REBATES AND LOANS OF 5.5 MILLION.

SO WHAT WE SHOW IS THAT WE HAVE $1.4 BILLION OF INVESTMENT FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS THAT WILL YIELD 6,505 RENTAL UNITS AND 905 OWNERSHIP UNITS AND THE COORDINATED HOUSING SYSTEM.

ALL OF OUR INCENTIVES THAT WE HAVE ARE PRODUCING ABOUT $422 MILLION WORTH OF INCENTIVES OR ASSISTANCE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

SO THAT JUST SHOWS IT TAKES A LOT OF RESOURCE TO REALLY ACHIEVE THIS AFFORDABLE HOUSING GOAL.

CITY COUNCIL ALSO MADE A PRIORITY OF PROTECTING AND PROMOTING OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND SO MORE RECENTLY WE ADOPTED THE RISK MITIGATION PLAN.

AND THE GOAL OF THAT PLAN WAS TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE TO INDIVIDUALS FACING FINANCIAL CHALLENGES.

AND AT RISK OF DISPLACEMENT.

OUR GOAL WAS TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE TO 200 FAMILIES.

TO DATE, WE HAVE, WE'VE IDENTIFIED 127 FAMILIES THAT ARE RECEIVING FUNDS FOR HOUSING STABILIZATION AND EIGHT FAMILIES FOR RELOCATION ASSISTANCE.

WE ARE ON TRACK TO REACH OUR GOAL OF 200, THOUGH WE WILL EASILY USE THAT $1 MILLION ALLOCATION.

NOW FOR US TO BE ABLE TO MEET THE TARGETS AND FOR US TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE OUR PROGRAMS, WE ARE REQUESTING AN ADDITIONAL $15 MILLION IN FUNDING FOR THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING POLICY ISSUE.

THE INCREASE IN THAT FUNDING REALLY GO TOWARDS THE RENTAL AND OWNERSHIP UNIT PRODUCTION, FOCUSING MORE IN THAT 50% A M I OR BELOW, WHICH WILL MAINLY BE THAT RENTAL PRODUCTION.

WE ALSO NEED TO INCREASE OUR UNDER ONE

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ROOF PROGRAM TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE LEVELS OF FUNDING THAT WE HAD THIS FISCAL YEAR 2019.

THERE'S $5.25 MILLION IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.

HOWEVER, 3 MILLION OF THAT WAS ONE TIME AS A RESULT OF A $2 MILLION CONTRIBUTION FROM THE HOUSING TRUST AND A $1 MILLION CONTRIBUTION FROM THE GORDON HARTMAN FOUNDATION.

SO WE NEED AN ADDITIONAL $15 MILLION TO BE ABLE TO, TO MAKE OURSELVES WHOLE AS WELL AS TO CONTINUE THE MOMENTUM AND MEET THOSE TARGETS.

AND WE REALLY WANNA FOCUS ON INCREASING THE HOUSING PRODUCTION AND HELPING THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE MAKING THE 50% A M I OR BELOW, WHICH MEANS WE SHOULD FOCUS ON THAT MULTI-FAMILY RENTAL.

UM, ALSO WORK ON OUR A M I 80% A M I OWNERSHIP, AND THEN FOCUS ON THE OTHER PRIORITIES THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE MAYOR'S HOUSING TASK FORCE REPORT, WHICH CREATED, WHICH INCLUDED CREATING A ONE-STOP CENTER, A CITYWIDE EDUCATION PLAN, AN ANTI-DISPLACEMENT IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, AN ACCOUNTABILITY DASHBOARD, AND THEN DEVELOP A LEGISLATIVE STRATEGY.

AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION FOR THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING POLICY ISSUE.

GREAT.

THANK YOU, LORI.

I THINK WE'RE MOVING RIGHT INTO, UH, THE DV UPDATE AND THEN TAKE QUESTIONS AFTER THAT.

IF ANYBODY WANTS TO STAND UP, GO RIGHT AHEAD.

, IT'S A LONG TIME TO BE SITTING.

ALL RIGHT, I'M GONNA GO THROUGH MINE.

UM, SO MY PRESENTATION'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN SOME OF THE ONES THAT YOU'VE HEARD SO FAR BECAUSE WE'VE BUNDLED A BUNCH OF THINGS THAT WE'VE HEARD YOU SAY ARE IMPORTANT INTO A CATEGORY THAT WE'RE CALLING STRONG CHILDREN AND FAMILIES.

SO I WANNA COVER THAT.

IT'S A PRETTY HIGH LEVEL DISCUSSION, BUT JUST TO GET SOME MORE NUANCES FROM YOU OF WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.

SO, UM, STARTING WITH WHAT WE KNOW, THESE ARE ALL THINGS YOU'VE HEARD BEFORE.

UM, YOU'VE SEEN THE GRAPHIC FROM THE STATUS OF WOMEN REPORT ABOUT THE NUMBER OF WOMEN WHO HAVE BEEN KILLED BY THEIR MALE PARTNER.

UM, YOU'VE SEEN THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE, THE PERCENT OF CHILDREN IN BEXAR COUNTY WHO, UM, HAVE, UH, TWO OR MORE ADVERSE CHILDHOOD EXPERIENCES.

UM, AND JUST THIS BIGGER PICTURE CONCEPT OF THE FACT THAT VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN AND TRAUMA AND CHILDHOOD, UH, NEGATIVELY AFFECT MENTAL HEALTH, UM, WITH BOTH PUTTING PEOPLE AT HIGHER RISK FOR MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES AND FOR SUICIDE.

SO WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING, IT'S A LOT, IT WAS REALLY GREAT TO PUT THESE ALL INTO ONE SLIDE BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A BUSY YEAR.

UM, BUT SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS ARE, OF COURSE, THE STATUS OF WOMEN REPORT, UM, THAT YOU RECEIVED LAST MONTH.

UM, THE METRO HEALTH STRATEGIC PLAN THAT IN THE TOP FOUR PRIORITIES, ADDRESS VIOLENCE AS ONE OF THE FOUR AND ADVERSE CHILDHOOD EXPERIENCES AS ANOTHER ONE OF THE FOUR.

UM, THERE'S BEEN A GROUP, I THINK I'VE MENTIONED TO Y'ALL ABOUT, UM, WHERE THE CITY AND THE COUNTY HAS COME TOGETHER TO TALK ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH GAPS AND HOW WE CAN PRIORITIZE TOGETHER WHAT GAPS NEED TO BE ADDRESSED FIRST.

UM, THERE IS A TRAUMA-INFORMED CARE, UM, CONSORTIUM THAT IS WORKING ON A BUSINESS OR HAS RECEIVED A BUSINESS PLAN THAT HELPS US CHART THE PATH FORWARD FOR HOW TO CREATE A TRAUMA-INFORMED CARE CERTIFYING ENTITY.

SOME OF YOU HAVE HEARD ABOUT THAT IN OUR ONE-ON-ONE DISCUSSIONS WITH YOU.

I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT IN A SECOND.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, THERE'S THE BEXAR COUNTY DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TASK FORCE THAT'S, UM, OVER THIS LAST YEAR REALLY BECOME INVIGORATED AND, UM, GROWN AND WORKING REALLY CLOSELY TOGETHER ON ADDRESSING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

SO WHAT IS THE NEED? UM, I MENTIONED THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT I'M CALLING A BUNDLE, AND I HATE TO BE TALKING ABOUT BUNDLES AFTER THE WHOLE, UH, CABLE SITUATION.

BUT, UM, WE'VE BUNDLED THINGS TOGETHER IN A WAY THAT I THINK MAKES A LOT OF SENSE, AND WE'VE BUNDLED THEM TOGETHER IN A WAY THAT ALLOWS US TO TAKE A COMPREHENSIVE AND A HOLISTIC APPROACH TO ADDRESSING MANY OF THE CHALLENGES THAT ARE, UH, CHILDREN AND FAMILIES ARE FACING.

SO IT ALLOWS US TO LOOK, UM, AT THE PREVENTION SIDE.

IT ALLOWS US TO GO UPSTREAM A LITTLE BIT AND START THINKING ABOUT REALLY GETTING IN FRONT OF SOME OF THESE PROBLEMS AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE SO THAT WE'RE NOT CONSTANTLY FIGHTING THIS BATTLE OF TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH THE PROBLEMS. UH, THE ANALOGY THAT I

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LIKE TO USE IS THAT WE'VE BEEN, UM, RUNNING AROUND TRYING TO PUT BANDAIDS ON EVERYBODY'S KNEES BECAUSE THEY KEEP TRIPPING OVER ALL OF THE ROCKS THAT ARE IN FRONT OF THEM.

AND AT SOME POINT, WE'RE GONNA RUN OUT PEOPLE TO PUT BANDAIDS ON THE KNEES.

WE'RE GONNA RUN OUTTA BANDAIDS, WE'RE GONNA RUN OUTTA MONEY TO BUY THE BANDAIDS.

WE NEED TO STOP FOR A SECOND.

WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHERE THE ROCKS ARE, AND WE NEED TO START MOVING THOSE ROCKS OUTTA THE WAY SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO BUY AS MANY BANDAIDS.

THE OTHER THING THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO THIS WORK IS TO RECOGNIZE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF REALLY GREAT WORK ALREADY GOING ON THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND THE COUNTY BETWEEN WHAT THE CITY'S DOING, THE COUNTY'S DOING, AND OUR NONPROFIT PARTNERS ARE DOING.

THERE'S A REALLY SOLID FOUNDATION, AND WE DON'T WANT TO, UM, START FROM SCRATCH.

WE WANNA START FROM THAT SOLID FOUNDATION AND BUILD .

SO IN, UM, THIS WORK THAT WE'RE DOING, AND IF YOU CAN'T READ THE FRAMEWORK, I ACTUALLY HAVE IT.

UH, I HAVE A COPY OF IT, IF THAT WORKS A LITTLE BIT BETTER FOR FOLKS.

UM, THANK YOU.

SO THIS IS A FRAMEWORK THAT WE HAVE DEVELOPED, UM, TO START TO TALK ABOUT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND VIOLENCE IN GENERAL.

BUT IT LOOKS AT, UM, THE ISSUE THROUGH A, THROUGH A TRIANGLE.

AND ON THIS TRIANGLE YOU CAN SEE THAT PREVENTION IS, UH, THE BIGGEST PART OF THE RESPONSE AND PRIMARY PREVENTION.

UM, THERE ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF PROGRAMS AND, UH, SERVICES, REAL SPECIFICS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THOSE.

UM, NEXT WE'VE GOT SECONDARY PREVENTION, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT MORE TARGETED TO PEOPLE WHO ARE AT RISK.

SO AGAIN, THINKING ABOUT THAT UPSTREAM, MOVING SOME OF THOSE ROCKS OUT OF THE WAY, UM, THIS IS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE MOST LIKELY TO TRIP OVER SOME OF THOSE ROCKS.

SO LET'S REALLY TARGET SOME OF THOSE INTERVENTIONS.

UH, THE ACUTE RESPONSE IS WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING, THAT THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SOMEBODY, UM, EXPERIENCES DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, FOR EXAMPLE.

AND THE RESPONSE THAT WE HAVE TO THAT, AND THEN THE TERTIARY PREVENTION, UH, RECOGNIZES THAT THIS TRAUMA DOESN'T GO AWAY JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SEE THE BRUISES ANYMORE.

AND SO OFTEN WE, UH, LET FOLKS GO TOO SOON, AND THEN THEY GET PUT BACK INTO THE CYCLE OF VIOLENCE.

AND IF WE CAN WORK REALLY INTENSIVELY WITH THESE CHILDREN AND THESE FAMILIES TO PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING, THEN WE CAN FUNNEL THEM BACK INTO THAT LOWER LEVEL PRIMARY PREVENTION WORK AND REALLY MAKE A DENT IN THE NUMBERS OF, UM, CHILDREN AND FAMILIES WHO CONTINUE TO EXPERIENCE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

SO A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE'RE THINKING.

UM, I THINK NEXT WEEK I'LL BE BACK TALKING TO YOU ABOUT THE SPECIFIC COMPREHENSIVE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PLAN AT GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE.

UM, BUT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS BASED ON THE FRAMEWORK THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, UH, WE'RE GONNA DEFINE A LITTLE BIT BROADER SCOPE ON HOW DO WE ADDRESS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

UM, AND I I WAS REALLY EXCITED TO HEAR THE CHIEF SAY THAT HE WAS, UM, WANTING TO INCLUDE US IN THIS CONVERSATION.

HE AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING A LOT ABOUT THIS.

WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO A LOT OF PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.

THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK YOU'LL, YOU'LL REALLY SEE REPRESENTED IN ALL OF THIS WORK IS NONE OF IT IS BEING DONE BY ONE SINGLE DEPARTMENT THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

IT'S A COLLABORATION BETWEEN MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS, UM, MULTIPLE ENTITIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND THE COUNTY.

AND IT'S A VERY COLLABORATIVE COLLECTIVE IMPACT APPROACH THAT WE'RE USING TO DO THIS.

UM, THE PLAN HIGH LEVEL FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS TO LOOK AT THAT, UM, FRAMEWORK THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU START TO FILL IN WHAT WE'RE DOING IN EACH OF THOSE AREAS.

AND THAT WILL ALLOW US TO LOOK AT IT AT A FAIRLY HIGH LEVEL AND DETERMINE IF THERE ARE GAPS, AND THEN WE CAN START TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY TO PRIORITIZE THOSE GAPS AND START TO FILL THOSE.

SO THAT'S A REAL HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT FOR THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

UM, THE OTHER REALLY GREAT DOCUMENT THAT WE JUST RECEIVED WAS THE STATUS OF WOMEN REPORT.

AND WE'RE GONNA BE, UM, THAT WAS OUR BASELINE DATA.

WE'RE GONNA BE REVIEWING THAT EVERY YEAR.

AND, UM, THAT WILL BE THE RUBRIC THAT WE USE TO FOCUS FUNDING ON PROGRAMS AND SERVICES.

AGAIN, UM, MORE UPSTREAM, MORE PREVENTION FOCUSED,

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AND THEN THE TRAUMA-INFORMED CARE CONSORTIUM.

SO I THINK YOU'VE HEARD ME TALK ABOUT THIS.

IT'S ONE OF MY FAVORITE THINGS TO TALK ABOUT.

UM, THIS, UH, GROUP HAS OVER 300 ACTIVE MEMBERS REPRESENTING 180 DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THROUGHOUT BEXAR COUNTY, WHO ARE ALL INTERESTED IN WORKING TOGETHER ON CREATING A TRAUMA-INFORMED CARE COMMUNITY.

UM, SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THAT GROUP.

IT JUST FORMED IN AUGUST.

WE HAD A GREAT MAY WHERE WE HAD, UM, A TREMENDOUS SHOWING FOR THE VARIOUS TRAININGS THAT WE PROVIDED SOMETHING ALMOST EVERY DAY.

AND, UM, THE MOMENTUM IS, IS GROWING AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THAT GROUP AND, UM, HOPEFULLY HAVE MORE AND MORE PEOPLE WHO ARE, ARE HELPING US TO MOVE THAT THAT NEEDLE.

JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL, UM, REGARDING THE PLAN, ONE OF THE PRIMARY, UH, GOALS OF THE TRAUMA-INFORMED CARE CONSORTIUM IS TO ESTABLISH A CERTIFYING ENTITY.

UM, SO YOU MIGHT HAVE HEARD FROM COUNCILMAN GONZALEZ ABOUT THIS.

UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, AGAIN, WITH THE COMMUNITY.

WE HAD A BUSINESS PLAN THAT TOLD US THAT, UM, IT WAS POSSIBLE TO CREATE THIS ENTITY WHERE YOU WOULD PROVIDE, UM, FULL AMOUNT OF FUNDING THE FIRST YEAR, AND THEN EVERY YEAR YOU WOULD DECREASE THE FUNDING UNTIL YEAR FIVE WHEN THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO STAND ON THEIR OWN FEET.

THE TOTAL FUNDING AMOUNT IS ABOUT $1.2 MILLION.

AND WHAT WE ARE DOING IS CREATING A SITUATION WHERE THE CITY, UM, WOULD WORK TO FUND HALF OF THAT, AND THEN THE COMMUNITY WOULD FUND THE OTHER HALF.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO THAT, AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT MORE DETAILS AS WE GET INTO THE BUDGET, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THAT ONE.

UM, ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF, AGAIN, A POPULATION BASED PREVENTION FOCUSED INITIATIVE THAT ADDRESSES EACH OF THE CONCERNS, WHETHER IT BE VIOLENCE, WHETHER IT BE ADVERSE CHILDHOOD EXPERIENCES, WHETHER IT BE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, IS, UH, AN INTERVENTION CALLED TRIPLE P.

SO POSITIVE PARENTING PROGRAM.

THIS IS AN INTERVENTION THAT'S BEEN USED IN AUSTRALIA, IN CANADA, UM, IN SEVERAL CITIES THROUGHOUT TEXAS AND ACROSS THE UNITED STATES THAT REALLY, UM, ADDRESSES PARENTING CHALLENGES FROM A POPULATION PERSPECTIVE.

SO RATHER THAN HAVING THOSE 10 PEOPLE GO TO A PARENTING CLASS AND LEARN HOW TO BE GOOD PARENTS, 10 PEOPLE AT A TIME, IT STARTS TO SET CULTURAL NORMS AND EXPECTATIONS AND UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT GOOD PARENTING LOOKS LIKE, AND HELPS PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHERE RESOURCES ARE THAT THEY CAN ACCESS WHEN THEY NEED HELP.

AND THAT ASKING FOR HELP AS A PARENT IS A GIVEN.

IT'S AN EXPECTATION.

NOBODY KNOWS HOW TO BE A GOOD PARENT.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU'RE BORN KNOWING HOW TO DO.

AND SO WE NEED TO CREATE THIS, THIS UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S OKAY TO ASK WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.

UM, THE NEXT EXAMPLE OF A PROGRAM THAT AGAIN ADDRESSES MULTIPLE OF THESE RISK FACTORS IS AN INTERVENTION CALLED TOO GOOD FOR VIOLENCE.

THIS IS SOMETHING WE WOULD PARTNER AT FIRST WITH S A I S D TO IMPLEMENT IN, UM, THEIR MIDDLE SCHOOLS.

AND IT GETS AT, UM, NOT JUST VIOLENCE, BUT HEALTHY RELATIONSHIPS AND CONFLICT RESOLUTION AND, UM, HOW TO, UM, RESIST SUBSTANCE USE PRESSURE.

SO AGAIN, IT GETS AT A LOT OF THOSE UPSTREAM FACTORS.

AND THEN FINALLY, UH, WE HAD A GREAT MEETING.

WE'VE BEEN MEETING OVER THIS LAST YEAR WITH THE CITY COUNTY MENTAL HEALTH WORK GROUP.

WE RECEIVED THE RESULTS OF THE GAP ANALYSIS LAST WEEK.

WE WENT THROUGH A PROCESS WHERE WE PRIORITIZED THOSE GAPS AND THERE ARE A LOT OF GAPS.

UM, BUT THE ONE ITEM THAT WE ALL COALESCED AROUND WAS THIS CONCEPT OF CREATING A MENTAL HEALTH URGENT CARE CLINIC.

AND IN THAT MENTAL HEALTH URGENT CARE CLINIC, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE IMMEDIATE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES FOR KIDS AND ADULTS WITH A SPECIFIC FOCUS ON HOMELESSNESS.

UM, AND ESPECIALLY DUAL DIAGNOSIS SO THAT IF THEY HAVE SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER AND A MENTAL ILLNESS, THIS WOULD BE THE PLACE THAT THEY COULD COME AND GET IMMEDIATE CARE.

UM, IT WOULD ALSO PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE TO ACCESS WALK-IN MEDICATION SERVICES.

RIGHT NOW, IF SOMEBODY IS ON PSYCHIATRIC MEDS AND THEY DON'T KEEP THEIR APPOINTMENT AND THEIR PRESCRIPTION RUNS OUT, THEY MAY HAVE TO WAIT SIX TO NINE MONTHS BEFORE THEY CAN GET THEIR NEXT APPOINTMENT TO GET THEIR MEDS REFILLED.

THAT'S A REAL PROBLEM.

SO WE WANTED TO PROVIDE IMMEDIATE ACCESS TO, UM, PRESCRIPTION PSYCHIATRIC DRUGS SO THAT PEOPLE DIDN'T HAVE TO

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HAVE THAT BREAK IN ACCESS, UM, TO THE NEEDED DRUGS.

AND THEN FINALLY, RECOGNIZING THAT WHEN A PARENT HAS A MENTAL ILLNESS, WHICH IS AGAIN, ONE OF THE 10 ADVERSE CHILDHOOD EXPERIENCES, KIDS NEED ADDITIONAL SUPPORT.

AND, UM, THIS CLINIC WOULD GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN EITHER WITH THEIR FAMILY OR NOT WITH THEIR FAMILY, AND RECEIVE THAT EXTRA SUPPORT AND CARE AND HEALING THAT THEY NEED AS A RESULT OF PARENTAL MENTAL ILLNESS.

SO THOSE, THAT'S A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE'RE THINKING FOR THIS, UM, BUNDLE OF STRONG FAMILY, STRONG CHILDREN AND FAMILIES.

AND JUST WANTED TO PUT SOME OF THOSE THOUGHTS OUT THERE FOR Y'ALL TO BE THINKING ABOUT.

UM, AND THAT IS THE END OF MY PRESENTATION, AND I THINK LORI AND I ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

GREAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH DR.

BRIDGER.

UM, WONDERFUL STUFF, UH, TO SEE THIS, UH, AS A FOUNDATIONAL PART OF OUR BUDGET.

ERIC, THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS PART OF OUR AGENDA TODAY.

UH, VERY QUICKLY, I DON'T KNOW, UH, I DON'T REMEMBER THE LAST TIME WE HAD AN UPDATE ON THE FIVE YEAR PLAN, UH, THE STRATEGIC PLAN.

ARE WE, IS THAT GONNA BE INCORPORATED INTO YOUR DEPARTMENT OR, OR THE METRO HEALTH DEPARTMENT UPDATE AT THE BUDGET? SO, YES.

UM, WE, SO OUR NEXT, AND I THINK IT'S A FOUR YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN, GOES INTO EFFECT OCTOBER 1ST.

UM, SO WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THE SPECIFICS OF THOSE FOUR PRIORITIES, AND WE'RE ACTUALLY SCHEDULING ONE-ON-ONE MEETINGS WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS AND, AND YOU, UM, TO TALK THROUGH, HERE'S THE DIRECTION WE'RE THINKING OF GOING.

A LOT OF WHAT YOU HEARD TODAY IS REFLECTED IN, UM, THE WORK OF THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT'S STRATEGIC PLAN.

OKAY, GREAT.

WELL, I, I MEAN, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO BE AS AGGRESSIVE AS POSSIBLE, UM, AS WE SET THOSE PRIORITIES FOR THE YEAR AND THE LAST SLIDE THAT YOU SHOWED WITH THE, THE PLAN, AND THAT'S DIRECTLY FROM THE STRATEGIC PLAN.

EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE ITEMS IS IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN.

WE HAVE A, A PLACEHOLDER RIGHT NOW FOR MENTAL HEALTH 'CAUSE THAT LITERALLY JUST HAPPENED FRIDAY.

BUT, UM, YES, SIR, THAT'S VERY INNOVATIVE.

I'M SURE WE'LL BE ONE OF THE FIRST TO DO IT.

UH, BUT I, I THINK THERE'S A HUGE GAP THERE THAT, THAT, THAT WE CAN FILL.

UM, AND, AND THE TRIPLE P, THE TWO GOOD FOR VIOLENCE, ALL THAT IS FROM, I GUESS, WE'LL, WE'LL WAIT FOR THAT DISCUSSION.

I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY ALL FIT TOGETHER WITH THE T I C, SO, OKAY.

THANK YOU DR.

BERGER.

UM, LORI, I JUST HAVE REALLY HAVE ONE QUESTION.

UM, I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT, UH, THIS, UH, PLAN CONTINUES TO MOVE FORWARD AT, AT FULL SPEED.

UM, GOOD NUMBERS ON THE 60%, WHICH I THINK IS A BIG, UH, PRIORITY FOR US.

UH, THERE'S BEEN A DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW WE DEFINE AFFORDABILITY.

UH, OF COURSE, WE ARE ADVOCATING FOR THE 60% MARK MM-HMM.

, UH, BUT WE SHOW A HUGE GAP IN THE 30 TO 50%.

WHAT'S THE PLAN TO HELP IT, UH, FILL THAT? AND SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS WE'D LIKE TO GET ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THAT 15 MILLION AND WORK WITH OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROVIDERS TO SEE HOW THEY CAN HELP US.

MAYBE THERE'S HOUSING UNITS THAT ARE COMING ONLINE AND WE CAN HELP BUY DOWN THAT AFFORDABILITY.

UM, SO A LOT OF UNITS WILL COME IN AND THEY HIT THAT 60% A M I, BUT THEY DON'T WANT TO GO BELOW.

AND SO MAYBE YOU CAN USE THAT 15 MILLION TO BRING THOSE UNITS TO A 30 TO 50% A M I LEVEL.

OKAY.

I, I DON'T EN VIA THE ANALYSIS THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED FROM YOU.

UM, I DO KNOW THERE'S ANOTHER, UH, THERE'S SEVERAL PILOTS OF INNOVATIVE HOME DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING IN SAN ANTONIO THAT, UH, FRANKLY I THINK WE WERE A LITTLE BIT BEHIND SOME OTHER CITIES, BUT WE'RE FINALLY CATCHING UP THINGS LIKE THE TINY HOME DEVELOPMENTS.

MM-HMM.

, ARE WE GONNA GET A REPORT ON THAT AND HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PUT SOME RESOURCES INTO THOSE TYPES OF INNOVATIVE DEVELOPMENTS TO SEE IF WE CAN CLOSE THE GAP? YES.

WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THOSE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS TO LOOK AT LIKE GRANNY FLATS AND OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE CAN DO IN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WOULD REQUIRE ZONING AND CODE CHANGES AS WELL.

OKAY.

GREAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

LORI COUNCILWOMAN VIRON.

UH, THANK YOU, LORI.

THANK YOU DR.

BRIDGER.

SORRY, MY IPAD DIED SO I DON'T HAVE ALL MY NOTES ON.

I DON'T BEEN A LONG DAY.

I KNOW IT HAS BEEN.

ALL MY NOTES ARE ON THE IPAD THOUGH.

I'M CHARGING IT RIGHT NOW.

UM, QUICKLY LET'S GO TO LORI FIRST.

LORI FOR THE, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT SLIDE THAT IS, BUT IT'S ABOUT THE ANTI-DISPLACEMENT MM-HMM.

, WHICHEVER SLIDE THAT IS.

UM, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ANTI-DISPLACEMENT,

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UM, IT'S THE VERY END, OF COURSE, IT'S , UH, THE ANTI-DISPLACEMENT IMPLEMENTATION.

MM-HMM.

, I KNOW THAT, UM, COUNCILMAN GONZALEZ HAS SOMETHING IN HER DISTRICT ABOUT FAIR HOUSING AND, UM, THE, THE CENTER THAT IS THERE TALK AND WHAT IS THERE IS HAVING TO DO WITH, UM, MAYBE WHAT TO DO WITH OUR PROPERTY TAXES, HOW TO, UM, UH, TO GO TO APPEAL YOUR APPRAISALS, BUT THEN ALSO WHAT TO DO WHEN IT COMES TO MAYBE AGGRESSIVE HOME, AGGRESSIVE, UH, SOLICITORS OR PEOPLE WHO WANNA BUY THEIR HOMES.

IS THAT GOING TO BE A PART OF OUR EDUCATION CAMPAIGN OR ANTI DISPLACEMENT IMPLEMENTATION? IF NOT, CAN IT BE A PART OF OUR EDUCATION PROCESS? THE ANSWER IS YES TO BOTH.

OKAY.

AND I'M GOING TO ASK IAN BEDA TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO THAT.

HI, IAN.

HI.

HOW ARE YOU DOING? UH, MAYOR COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE.

YES, ABSOLUTELY.

THAT IS GONNA BE PART OF THE EDUCATION CAMPAIGN, UM, HELPING SENIOR CITIZENS ESPECIALLY MM-HMM.

, UM, APPLY AND, AND FULL FULFILL, I'M SORRY, THEIR TAX EXEMPTIONS.

SO THAT'S GONNA BE A BIG PART OF IT.

AND ALSO TO, UM, TARGET THOSE VULNERABLE POPULATIONS THAT MAY BE PREDATORILY, UM, TARGETED BY HOME BUYERS TO LET THEM KNOW THEIR RIGHTS, WHAT THEIR VALUE OF THEIR HOUSE IS, AND, UM, HOW TO NEGOTIATE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND THEN, UM, I GUESS BOTH OF YOU ALL, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP TODAY IN OUR CONVERSATION ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THE HAY STREET BRIDGE, MANY PEOPLE WERE SAYING HOW THEY DIDN'T AGREE WITH THE A M I AND THEY DIDN'T AGREE WITH IT AND HOW WE NEED TO CHANGE THE A M I.

UM, CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW WE ARE GOING TO GET THE MESSAGE ACROSS OF HOW THE A M I IS IS BROUGHT FORWARD TO THE CITY AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO AS A CITY TO EITHER BRING IT DOWN OR WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO ENGAGE THAT? UM, IT'S REALLY WITHIN OUR TARGET AREAS.

MM-HMM.

.

AND SO YOU SEE ON THE SLIDE I HAVE HERE, UM, PER THE MAYOR'S HOUSING TASK FORCE REPORT, THEY HAD AN A M I, UM, GOAL OF 9,516 UNITS BETWEEN 30 TO 60% A M I.

AND WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE, WE, WE NEED TO SET A NEW GOAL WITHIN THAT, AND WE FEEL THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MEET THAT GOAL OF 50 TO 60% A M I, BUT WE NEED TO GO LOWER.

AND SO IT MAYBE NOT BE ABOUT THE HOW THE A M I SPECIFICALLY BROUGHT FORWARD FROM HUD, IT'S JUST REDIRECTING OUR GOALS.

AND SO, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE NEED TO REALLY BE FOCUSING ON THE RENTER AT 50% A M I OR BELOW.

UM, NOW THAT WE SEE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO GET THAT 50 TO 60% A M I UNIT.

AND SO IT MAY, THEY MAY DISAGREE WITH THE A M I, BUT THAT IS PRODUCED BY HUD AND WE WILL EDUCATE PEOPLE ON THAT.

BUT WE CAN LOOK AT THAT AND ADJUST OUR GOALS OF WHERE WE WANT OUR HOUSING TO BE PRODUCED WITHIN THAT A M I.

PERFECT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND THANK YOU, LORI, BECAUSE I DUNNO HOW YOU DO WHAT YOU DO, BUT GOOD, GOOD JOB.

UM, THANK YOU DR.

BRIDGER.

UM, ALL I'M GOING TO SAY ABOUT YOUR PRESENTATION, JUST A COMMENT IS THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND ALL THIS DATA THAT YOU'VE PROVIDED, UM, REALLY DEMONSTRATES THE AMOUNT OF CONVERSATION AND COLLABORATION THAT'S ALREADY BEING, THAT'S ALREADY TAKING PLACE ON THIS FRONT END AS WE HAVE THE CONVERSATION, UM, ABOUT THE BUDGET, UH, AND OUR FINANCIAL POLICIES ON THIS.

SO I WANNA THANK YOU, THANK YOUR TEAM AND THANK ALL OF THE CITY STAFF WHO'S BEEN A PART OF THIS.

THANKS.

THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN VARUN.

COUNCILMAN GONZALEZ.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

UM, AND, UM, THANK YOU COUNCILWOMAN FOR ACKNOWLEDGING, UM, THE MOCK HOUSING ONE STOP CENTER.

THAT'S WHERE WE, UH, DID A, A PILOT PROJECT PRIOR TO THE MAYOR'S HOUSING TASK FORCE TO GET, UM, SOME INFORMATION ON WHAT THE PEOPLE WERE EXPERIENCING.

AND WE ALSO RAN A COUPLE OF WORKSHOPS ON HOW TO PROTEST YOUR TAXES AS WELL, THAT I KNOW COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL HAS DONE.

UM, OURS REALLY ALSO TARGETED SENIORS IN PARTICULAR, UH, AND, UH, HOW TO RESPOND TO SOME OF THOSE REALLY AGGRESSIVE PEOPLE ASKING TO BUY THEIR PROPERTIES.

UM, BUT, BUT JUST REGARDING, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND, UM, I KNOW IT'S, I THINK WE'RE DOING, UH, I MEAN, IT'S THE FIRST TIME I THINK WE'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE.

AND SO THERE'S DEFINITELY A LEARNING CURVE AND I, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE DESIRE OR THAT WHAT WE'VE BEEN TARGETING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, 60 TO 80% BECAUSE WE NEED THAT WORKFORCE HOUSING, BUT WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING FOR THE 30%, WHICH IS PUBLIC HOUSING AS IT EXISTS TODAY.

AND THAT'S WHY I'VE BEEN FIGHTING SO HARD FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE THREE OLDEST ONES IN THE DISTRICT, IN MY DISTRICT, WHICH IS ARE ALLAN CASTANO, AND THEN LINCOLN, WHICH IS REALLY IN DISTRICT ONE, BUT IT'S RIGHT ON THE BORDER.

SO, UM, I I

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I, I BELIEVE THAT IN MY TERM, WE WILL HAVE AT LEAST THE BEGINNING OF THE REDEVELOPMENT OF ALASAN.

I THINK WE'LL HAVE AT LEAST A GROUNDBREAKING THERE.

HOPEFULLY I'LL BE HERE TO SEE IT.

UH, BUT, UH, IN MY DISCUSSIONS WITH SAHA, UM, THEY HAVE NO PLANS FOR CASTANO.

UH, AND THAT IS, YOU KNOW, THE HOUSING, UH, UNIT, UH, A COMPLEX THAT WAS BUILT IN THE 1950S, UM, AND IS IN DESPERATE NEED OF, OF LIKE JUST AN INFUSION OF SOMETHING.

UH, AND SO I KNOW WE, WE DON'T, AND THERE'S NOTHING FOR THAT.

THERE'S NO WAY TO PROGRAM IT.

PEOPLE ARE DESPERATELY POOR, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT GENTRIFYING.

THERE'S NOTHING HAPPENING IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND SO, AND I THINK THE SAME IS TRUE OF LINCOLN AS WELL.

I MEAN, THERE'S JUST NOTHING GOING ON THERE IN THOSE NEAR WEST SIDE NE WELL, NOT SO MUCH NEAR WEST SIDE, BUT IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND SO THEN IT, I FEEL LIKE IF WE DON'T REALLY DEEPLY TARGET, UH, AT LEAST THOSE TWO NOTHING'S, I MEAN, THERE IS NO HOPE FOR THOSE TWO VERY LARGE HOUSING PROJECTS, UH, IN THE NEAR AREA.

AND I KNOW THAT SAHA ALSO HAS SOME REALLY OLD PROPERTIES IN THE DISTRICT THAT ARE SENIOR HOUSING.

AND ONE THING THAT, UM, I THINK MANY OF US HERE CAN APPRECIATE, AND I KNOW THAT, UM, SUPERINTENDENT, UH, PEDRO MARTINEZ SAID IT AT AN EVENT IS THAT OUR BUILDINGS SHOULD NOT REFLECT THE POVERTY OF OUR CHILDREN.

AND THAT'S HOW I FEEL ABOUT SOME OF OUR OLD HOUSING PROJECTS.

IT'S GOVERNMENT HOUSING.

AND SO PEOPLE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO, JUST BECAUSE IT'S GOVERNMENT HOUSING DOESN'T MEAN PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE TO LIVE LIKE THAT.

AND SO I HOPE THAT WE CAN FIND A WAY TO EVEN GIVE THOSE DEEP, DEEP TARGETS THAT NOBODY WANTS TO DO, BECAUSE I MEAN, WE ALL KNOW THAT THERE'S NO MONEY TO BE HAD IN REALLY POOR PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY THAT 30%, AND THEY'RE HUGE.

I KNOW THAT, UM, A LASAN IS 750 UNITS, ANO IS LIKE 550 UNITS.

I DUNNO HOW MANY ARE AT LINCOLN, BUT I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, ALSO EQUALLY 700 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO I WOULD HOPE THAT WE CAN, UH, WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH OUR PARTNER SAHA AND THE BOARD TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO GET THOSE REALLY DEEP TARGETS THAT WE'RE NOT SEEING YET.

SO I KNOW THAT THAT WILL EVOLVE, BUT UM, HOPEFULLY, UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN CONCENTRATE ON THAT EFFORT.

UM, AND ALSO, SO NOT ONLY DO WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE EXISTING, BUT WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING TO EXPAND IT.

UH, SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE A SOLUTION, BUT I HOPE WITH A, YOU KNOW, WITH THE TARGETED EFFORT, WE CAN DO THAT, EVEN IF IT'S AT THE EXPENSE OF, OF THE OTHERS.

UM, AND SO THE OTHER THING THAT, UM, I JUST, UH, I THINK THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE OR COMMENTS I HAVE ABOUT, UM, THE HOUSING.

UM, AND JUST THE LAST THING, UH, FOR, UM, FOR DR.

BRIDGER'S, UH, COMMENTS.

I HAVE HAD A TALK CHANCE TO SPEAK TO A FEW OF MY COLLEAGUES ABOUT THE TRAUMA-INFORMED CARE CONSORTIUM AND ESPECIALLY THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS, BECAUSE I KNEW THAT WOULD BE REALLY COMPLICATED, UH, FOR THEM TO UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE TAKING THIS APPROACH, UM, ASKING FOR THE CONSORTIUM.

BUT ONE THING THAT I DO NEED TO ASK THAT YOU INCLUDE IN YOUR PRESENTATION, DR.

BRIDGER, AS WE DIG A LITTLE BIT DEEPER, WHEN I TALK TO COUNCILMAN PERRY ABOUT IT, HE'S OF COURSE ASKING FOR THE IRO I R O I AND WE KNOW THAT IT, YOU CAN GET THOSE NUMBERS, THEY'RE PRETTY EASY.

UH, RATHER, I DON'T HAVE TO SAY THEY'RE EASY, BUT YOU HAVE THEM.

YES.

UM, AND SO HE'S ASKING FOR THAT, AND I THINK IT'S A FAIR QUESTION.

UM, WHAT WOULD BE THE R O I IN THIS TYPE OF INVESTMENT? SO AS WE DEVELOP A LITTLE BIT FURTHER WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, UH, IF YOU COULD PLEASE INCLUDE THAT IN YOUR PRESENTATION.

SO ONE THING I KNOW HAVING BEEN HERE FOR NOW A WHILE, UH, IS THAT, UM, MY PLEAD FOR HELPING PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY'RE POOR, BECAUSE IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO, OR, UM, DOESN'T REALLY WORK.

WHAT PEOPLE WANNA KNOW IS WHAT IS A RETURN ON INVESTMENT? AND I THINK WE CAN SHOW THAT IN ALMOST EVERY ONE OF THESE YES.

SO THAT THE TAXPAYERS UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS GOOD MONEY SPENT, THAT WE'RE NOT HELPING PEOPLE OUT OF THE GOODNESS EVER HEARTS.

WE'RE HELPING THEM BECAUSE IT'S FINANCIALLY WISE TO DO SO, UM, THAT WE CANNOT HAVE CERTAIN PARTS OF OUR CITY THAT DON'T ADVANCE, UM, AS QUICKLY OR AS RAPIDLY AS OTHERS.

UH, AND WE CAN SHOW THAT WITH DATA.

AND SO, UM, IF YOU COULD PLEASE INCLUDE THAT, UH, AS WE, UM, PROCEED.

UM, AND AS I'VE SEEN A COUPLE OF SOLUTIONS, I'VE TRIED A COUPLE PROJECTS IN MY DISTRICTS.

MY COLLEAGUES HAVE HEARD ME TALK ABOUT THE PROGRAM, WHICH WAS A PEER-TO-PEER MENTORING PROGRAM, UM, TRYING TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF VIOLENCE AND POVERTY IN MY COMMUNITY.

AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT I'VE SEEN SOMETHING THAT I THINK WILL WORK.

UH, I THINK IT'S, UM, YOU HAVE THE DATA TO

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PROVE THAT IT WILL WORK.

UM, AND PLEASE PRESENT THAT AS WELL.

BUT I, UH, HAVE BEEN FEELING VERY DESPERATE ABOUT THE, THE FACT THAT WE ARE NOT SEEING IMPROVEMENT IN OUR MOST POOR COMMUNITIES.

AND IN FACT, WE'RE TRENDING IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION.

WE HAVE MORE VIOLENCE THAN EVER.

PEOPLE ARE MORE POOR THAN EVER.

WE'RE HAVING EQUALLY DESPERATE FAILURE RATES, UH, OF SOME OF OUR SCHOOLS AND THAT SOME THINGS, UM, AS A CITY WE DO PRETTY WELL, BUT IF WE ARE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE EXISTING POPULATION AND PARTICULARLY CERTAIN POCKETS, UH, WE'RE NOT MOVING THE NEEDLE.

SO I THINK THIS MIGHT WORK.

UH, WELL, I HAVE TREMENDOUS FAITH, THAT THIS WILL WORK.

I JOB THAT I, I JUST THINK WE NEED THE DATA TO BACK IT UP.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN GONZALEZ.

COUNCILMAN P THANK YOU, SIR.

UM, WHO DO YOU WANT FIRST? UH, OH, SINCE YOU'RE UP THERE.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, AND I APPRECIATE COUNCILWOMAN GONZALEZ'S COMMENTS ABOUT THE R O I AND, UH, I, I THINK IT'S MEASURABLE.

YOU, YOU CAN MEASURE ANYTHING NOWADAYS AND, AND WHAT YOUR INVESTMENT IS VERSUS WHAT YOUR RETURN IS.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT AS WELL.

UM, BUT ACROSS ALL OF THESE PROGRAMS THAT YOU'RE KIND OF LUMPING IN INTO THAT ONE CATEGORY, HOW MUCH MONEY IS GOING INTO THOSE PROGRAMS TODAY? NONE OF THOSE PROGRAMS EXIST TODAY.

WELL, BUT WE HAVE PROGRAMS THAT SUPPORT THOSE.

OKAY.

SO ACTIVITIES, YES.

TODAY THAT, ESPECIALLY DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AGENCIES, DELEGATE AGENCIES, UH, STATE FUNDED PROGRAMS, FEDERAL FUNDED PROGRAMS, HOW MUCH MONEY IS GOING INTO THESE PROGRAMS TODAY? SO I HAVE A HANDOUT THAT LOOKS AT SPECIFIC TO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

OKAY.

UM, SPECIFIC TO THE CITY, HOW MUCH MONEY IS BEING SPENT.

AND, UM, THIS INCLUDES DELEGATE AGENCIES, UM, FUNDING FOR BOTH DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION AND, UM, THE POLICE'S RESPONSE.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF FUNDING IS, UM, A LITTLE OVER $18 MILLION A YEAR FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

UH, BUT THE WORK WITH THE DELEGATE AGENCIES, UM, IS ABOUT 1.2 MILLION OF THAT.

OKAY.

SO IN ALL OF THESE PROGRAMS, THE 18, $18 MILLION, I MEAN, AREN'T WE DOING SOME KIND OF A STUDY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, UM, TO SEE WHERE ALL OF THESE RESOURCES, OR I ASK FOR IT TO BE, UH, LOOK AT ALL THESE RESOURCES AND HOW CAN WE FOCUS THEM BETTER TO TAKE CARE OF THE PROBLEMS OR PREVENT THE PROBLEMS FROM HAPPENING IN THE FIRST PLACE? YES, SIR.

THAT IS WHAT I'LL BE PRES, I'LL BE PRESENTING THE PROCESS THAT WE'LL BE USING TO DO THAT NEXT WEEK AT GOVERNANCE.

UM, AND THAT IS THE FRAMEWORK THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU.

WE'RE GONNA LAY OUT ALL OF THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS AND SERVICES THROUGH, AND NOT JUST CITY, BUT THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND THE COUNTY, AND SHOW IN WHICH CATEGORIES THEY FALL SO THAT WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING AND CAN BETTER VISUALIZE WHERE THOSE GAPS ARE.

GREAT.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND THIS IS, THIS IS FANTASTIC.

THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.

AND IT IS TO ME, IT'S EYEOPENING TO SEE HOW MANY RESOURCES ARE BEING PUT TO THIS.

AND I MEAN, THEN YOU HAVE TO ASK THE QUESTION, WELL, IN, IN YOUR PRESENTATION, I'M ASSUMING IT'S GONNA REQUIRE ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO EXECUTE THESE PRIORITIES.

UM, AND MY QUESTION HAS BEEN, WELL, WHAT'S, WHAT'S ENOUGH FUNDING? I MEAN, WHERE, WHERE DO YOU DRAW THE LINE? WHERE ARE YOU GONNA, HOW ARE YOU GONNA GET TO THAT ZERO, UH, IMPACT? HOW, WHERE DO YOU DRAW THE LINE? HOW MUCH MONEY ARE WE GONNA PUT PUT TO THIS ISSUE? AND, UM, I THINK YOU AND I ARE ON THE SAME PAGE WITH THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT WHAT WE NEED AS WE INVEST NEW RESOURCES INTO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, FOR EXAMPLE, WE NEED TO THINK MORE ON THE PREVENTION SIDE AND TRY TO AVOID MORE PEOPLE NEEDING THAT ACUTE LEVEL OF INTERVENTION, BECAUSE THAT'S THE MOST EXPENSIVE PART.

IF WE CAN WORK EARLIER TO PREVENT THESE THINGS FROM HAPPENING, THEN WE WILL BE SPENDING LESS MONEY.

LIKE I SAID, WE'LL BE, WE'LL BE BUYING LESS BAND-AIDS AND HIRING LESS PEOPLE TO PUT THOSE BAND-AIDS ON IF WE CAN JUST PERMANENTLY MOVE THOSE ROCKS OUT OF THE WAY.

SO IN LOOKING AT THAT, COULDN'T, COULDN'T

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WE SAY THAT YES, INSTEAD OF 18 MILLION GO GOING TO THESE PROGRAMS ONLY 15 MILLION AND MOVE THAT OTHER $3 MILLION FORWARD INTO THOSE PREVENTION AREAS TO LESSEN THAT END RESULT, WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU CERTAINLY COULD.

UM, STICKING WITH MY ANALOGY THOUGH, THAT WOULD MEAN THAT THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE WHO NEED BAND-AIDS THAT WE'RE NOT PROVIDING BAND-AIDS TO.

AND THAT'S AN APPROACH.

ANOTHER APPROACH WOULD BE AS WE ADD MORE RESOURCES, WE WORK ON, ON MOVING THOSE ROCKS, BUT YEAH, BOTH, BOTH SCENARIOS ARE, ARE VIABLE.

OKAY.

WELL, I'D REALLY LIKE TO THINK ABOUT THAT AS WELL INSTEAD OF AT ALWAYS ADDING ADDITIONAL RESOURCES BECAUSE THAT, LOOKING AT DIFFERENT GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS THAT, WHETHER IT'S CITY, STATE OR FEDERAL PROGRAMS, YOU DON'T SEE THAT HAPPEN TOO MUCH WHERE A PROGRAM ACTUALLY GETS REDUCED OVER TIME.

THEY KEEP GROWING BECAUSE THE ADMINISTRATION, THE, THE, THE EXECUTION, EVERYTHING KEEPS GROWING AND YOU NEVER REALLY SEE THOSE PROGRAMS BEING EFFECTIVE TO REDUCE THAT TAIL COST, WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.

SO, YOU KNOW, I'D REALLY LIKE TO LOOK AT THAT APPROACH AS WELL AND NOT JUST ADDING TO THE PROGRAM, BUT, UM, HOW ABOUT THE PROGRAM? PUTTING THOSE RESOURCES UP FRONT? OKAY.

IT'S FOR THE PREVENTION.

GREAT.

THANK YOU MA'AM.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

UM, THE OTHER ONE, LET'S SEE, WHICH WAS THE OTHER ONE? IT MUST BE LORI HOUSE.

YES, MISS LORI.

OKAY.

UM, JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

SLIDE NINE.

OKAY.

YOU SAID, UM, FUNDING TO DATE, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN SINCE WHEN? SO THESE ARE ALL, THESE ARE, SO ALL THE PROJECTS IN THE PIPELINE THAT ARE SCHEDULED TO EITHER COME ONLINE IN 2019 OR BEYOND, THIS IS THE FUNDING THAT IS DEDICATED TO THOSE PROJECTS.

AND SO THE LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT PROJECTS THAT ARE APPROVED BY THE STATE, AND WE HAVE THE 4% AND 9% TAX CREDIT PROJECTS.

THERE'S ABOUT 26 IN THE PIPELINE THAT IS ABOUT 361 MILLION.

THAT'S NOT CITY FUNDING, THAT'S A TAX CREDIT.

UM, WE HAVE OUR GAP FINANCING THAT'S FUNDED THROUGH OUR C D B G AND HOME AS WELL AS THE FUNDING IDENTIFIED IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2019 BUDGET.

UM, THE HOUSING BOND, WHICH IS THE $20 MILLION THAT WAS IN THE 20, UM, 17 BOND PROGRAM.

AND THEN OUR CITY AND SAWS FEE WAIVERS THAT ARE EITHER PROVIDED THROUGH OUR ICRP OR OUR CITY FEE WAIVER PROGRAM OR OUR C CHIP, THAT'S 9 MILLION.

AND THEN THE C C CHIP REBATES, OUR TAX REBATES AND LOANS AND THEN TURS.

AND SO THAT IS, THOSE ARE ALL THE FUNDING SOURCES NECESSARY TO GET THOSE PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING ONLINE IN 20 19, 20 20, 21 AND 2022.

OKAY.

SO IT, THIS IS, THIS IS AS OF, UH, 20 19 20.

SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY FUNDING THAT WE'VE, THAT WE'VE COLLECTED IN YEARS PRIOR TO THIS.

NO.

SO THIS, THE FISCAL YEAR 2019 BUDGET APPRO PROVIDED $26.1 MILLION AND THAT WAS TO COMPLETE THOSE PROGRAMS AND THOSE PRIORITIES.

AND SO THAT $26.1 MILLION HELPED FACILITATE EITHER PRODUCTION OR IMPROVEMENTS TO 1,518 HOMES.

OKAY.

AND THEN WE DID OUR CONSOLIDATED PIPELINE OF ALL OF OUR HOUSING PARTNERS.

UM, WHAT IS THE HOUSING TRUST DOING THROUGH THEIR PFCS? WHAT ARE THOSE PROJECTS THAT WENT AFTER 4% TAX CREDITS? IT, IT MAY NOT BE A PROJECT THAT WE'RE INCENTING, BUT IT'S ON OUR RADAR BECAUSE IT'S RECEIVING ASSISTANCE FROM ONE OF OUR HOUSING PARTNERS.

I GUESS WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IS A, A REACH BACK.

HOW MUCH HAVE WE PUT INTO THIS PROGRAM, LET'S SAY OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS? OR WHEN DID THESE PROGRAMS START? AND HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE PUT INTO THESE PROGRAMS. WHAT IS IT, 10 YEARS OR 20 YEARS, WHATEVER.

LET'S REACH BACK AND SEE HOW MUCH HAS ACTUALLY BEEN SPENT IN TOTAL IN THESE PROGRAMS. AND THEN WE CAN LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE SPENDING, YOU KNOW, IN FUTURE YEARS AS WELL.

UM, AND ALONG WITH THAT, OUT OF THAT, UM, THE 19 BUDGET, HOW MUCH OF THAT WAS GENERAL FUND MONEY? AGAIN, COUNCILMAN, AND JUST TO CLARIFY, THE $26 MILLION INCLUDES A $1 MILLION AT H E B PROVIDED FOR THE, UNDER THE ONE ROOF PROGRAM.

GOTCHA, GOTCHA.

RIGHT.

SO CITY FUNDING WAS 25.

OF THAT 25, UH, MILLION DOLLARS, $2 MILLION WAS

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PROVIDED BY THE SAN ANTONIO HOUSING TRUST.

NINE AND A HALF MILLION BY THE GENERAL FUND AND THE BALANCE AS C D B G AND HOME UH, GRANTS.

OKAY.

SO THE 9 MILLION IS BASICALLY WHAT WE FUNDED OUT OF OUR GENERAL FUND.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

SO IN THE 2020 PROPOSAL, HOW MUCH ARE WE, UH, ARE YOU SHOWING FOR COMING OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND? WHAT WE PRESENTED IN THE FINANCIAL FORECAST IS, UH, $9.5 MILLION.

THE SAME.

WE ARE NOT, NOTHING INCREASE IN THAT BASELINE BUDGET THROUGH THE POLICY DISCUSSION WITH THE COUNCIL ON THE 21ST.

THAT'LL BE THE DISCUSSION IF WE WERE TO ADD ADDITIONAL FUNDING, UH, WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

OKAY.

SO FOR RIGHT NOW, WHAT YOU'RE SHOWING IS HOLDING FAST AT NINE AND A HALF MILLION? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

AND LET, LET ME ADD ONE THING AND, AND, AND IT WAS IN YESTERDAY'S BEN'S PRESENTATION YESTERDAY, IT WAS ALSO IN THE FORECAST PRESENTATION.

THE SECOND YEAR OF THE HOUSING BUSINESS PLAN CALLS FOR AN ADDITIONAL 15 MILLION.

SO DOWN THERE WHEN WE SHOWED THE FORECAST THAT 15 MILLION WAS, WAS WAS PART OF THAT, THAT MIDDLE PART OF THE SLIDE THAT TALKED ABOUT OTHER POLICY ISSUES? UM, THAT, THAT'S WHERE WE YEAH, WE SHOWED IT DOWN THERE AT THE BOTTOM.

OKAY.

I, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE ON THE, YEAH, ON THE, ON THESE SLIDES THAT WE, WE WERE SHOWING THE NINE, NINE AND A HALF.

SO, UH, SLIDE NUMBER 11, I GUESS THAT'S WHERE IT TRANSLATES INTO, UM, YEAH.

OKAY.

BUT HERE YOU'RE, YOU'RE SHOWING THE 15, SO THIS IS WHAT IS IN THE FUNDING PLAN IN THE MAYOR'S HOUSING TASK FORCE REPORT.

SO IN FISCAL YEAR 2020, WE WOULD NEED AN ADDITIONAL $15 MILLION PER THAT REPORT.

3 MILLION WOULD GO TO THE UNDER ONE ROOF PROGRAM TO KEEP THAT FUNDING AT THE 5.25 MILLION.

AND THE REMAINING WOULD GO TO, UM, REHAB, UM, OWNER AND RENTAL PRODUCTION.

SO THIS WILL BE DISCUSSED DURING THE WORK SESSION ON THE 21ST, BUT THIS IS WHAT'S IN THE PLAN THAT WAS ACCEPTED BY COUNSEL ON AUGUST, 2019.

OKAY.

BUT THE 9.5 IS WHAT WE SPENT IN 19 IN, IN GENERAL FUND DOLLARS.

YES.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

SO WE'RE THE, WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS WHETHER WE'RE GONNA ADD THE 15 TO THE NINE, THAT THAT'S THE PRO, I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAVING THESE PRESENTATIONS LEAD UP.

OKAY.

THERE'S, THERE'S POLICE OFFICERS, THERE'S STREET MAINTENANCE.

I, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S WHAT THE FOCUS IS GONNA BE ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING ACCORDING TO THE PLAN.

YEAH.

BASED ON WHAT THE, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WAS ADOPTED.

IT CALLS FOR AN ADDITIONAL $15 MILLION.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO PROBABLY, OR I'M SORRY, WE, YOU AND THE REST OF THE COUNCIL NEED TO TALK THROUGH ON THE 21ST MM-HMM.

.

WELL, THIS IS A TEAM EFFORT.

RIGHT.

I APPRECIATE THAT, COUNCIL.

YEAH, THERE YOU GO.

THERE YOU GO.

AND I'D LIKE TO CORRECT, UM, THE UNDER ONE ROOF PROGRAM.

UM, KIM RAPIER, UM, WAS THE ONE WHO PROVIDED THAT 1 MILLION.

WE'VE GIVEN CREDIT TO H E V AND THEN WE GAVE CREDIT TO GORDON HARTMAN, BUT THE CORRECT, YEAH, IT WAS KIM INDIVIDUAL WAS KIM.

SO I, I'M SORRY I GOT THAT WRONG EARLIER TOO.

YEAH.

AND I, I JUST WANNA PUT A PLUG OUT FOR HER.

SHE'S, UH, FUNDED A COUPLE OF OTHER NON-PROFITS HERE, BLESSED ANGELS AND, UH, SOLDIER SOLDIERS ANGELS WITH SOME FANTASTIC GIFTS HERE TO THE CITY AND TO THOSE NON-PROFITS.

I JUST WANT TO GIVE HER ANOTHER PLUG.

SHE'S A, SHE'S AN ANGEL HERSELF, AND GORDON AND H E B ARE GREAT TOO, BUT I JUST WANTED OH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

WELL, THOSE ARE IN MY DISTRICT ALSO.

UH, SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO PLUG THOSE.

BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH, LORI.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN PERRY.

COUNCILMAN PIAS.

THANK YOU, MARY.

UM, DR.

BRIDGER.

THANK YOU.

THIS WAS EXCELLENT, LORI.

THIS WAS, THIS WAS REALLY GOOD.

THANK YOU.

UH, I, I'M LOOKING AT THE PYRAMID, UH, DOCUMENT THAT YOU GAVE US, AND SOMETHING JUMPS OUT AT ME, RIGHT? AND THAT IS, THAT THERE ARE, AND, AND REALLY, I, I, I THINK YOU'LL AGREE WITH THAT.

THIS IS A DOCUMENT THAT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS, RIGHT? IT IS, IT IS TOTALLY HOT OFF THE PRESS AND A WORK IN PROGRESS.

OKAY.

SO LET ME TELL YOU SORT OF WHAT I, WHAT I KNOW.

UM, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, SECTION 92 OF THE PROPERTY CODE SAYS THAT ANY TENANT IN TEXAS OF A HOME OR AN APARTMENT CAN IMMEDIATELY BREAK THEIR LEASE AND VACATE A PIECE OF PROP, UH, VACATE THAT APARTMENT OR THAT HOME IF THEY ARE THE VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, STALKING, OR SEXUAL ASSAULT WHILE THEY'RE LIVING IN THAT APARTMENT.

RIGHT? UM, AND IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE TO HAPPEN AT THE APARTMENT, RIGHT? UM, I GUARANTEE YOU THERE ISN'T A SINGLE TENANT IN SAN ANTONIO WHO KNOWS THIS.

WE'VE GOT 13,000 EMPLOYEES, 6,500 OF THEM WHO ARE WOMEN WHO PROBABLY HAVE NO IDEA THAT IF THEY LIVE IN AN APARTMENT OR RENTED HOME, THEY CAN EASILY BREAK AND VA THEIR LEASE AND

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VACATE THEIR APARTMENT.

UM, YOU KNOW, IMMEDIATELY.

AND THAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO, RIGHT? UM, SO LIKE NOWHERE IN THIS, IN THIS PYRAMID, DO I SEE A PLACE WHERE IT WOULD FIT MM-HMM.

TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC, PARTICULARLY TENANTS, ABOUT THEIR RIGHT TO ESCAPE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND PROTECT THEMSELVES, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

.

UM, AND THAT'S OKAY.

'CAUSE IT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS, AND I'M SURE THAT WE'LL FIND A PLACE TO FIT IT IN THERE.

BUT AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD AND DEVELOPING THIS, THIS, UH, THIS FRAMEWORK, AND AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO, I'LL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE, LORI, IF, IF VERONICA SOTO IS WORKING WITH TENANTS, RIGHT? THAT THAT'S A REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO SPREAD THAT INFORMATION EVERY TIME WE COME IN CONTACT WITH A FEMALE TENANT, RIGHT? UM, IF HUMAN RESOURCES IS HERE, I MEAN, IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR FREE TO TELL 6,500 WOMEN THAT THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO TERMINATE THEIR LEASE, RIGHT? LORI, IF WE'RE DOING DEALS WITH LOW INCOME HOUSING DEVELOPERS, YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE HANGING AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DANGLING INCENTIVES IN FRONT OF THEM, THOSE INCENTIVES COULD COME CONDITIONED UPON THEM VERY, VERY AGGRESSIVELY REMINDING WOMEN IN THEIR, YOU KNOW, AND SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO TELL YOU IS THAT THERE'S INNOVATIVE, REALLY SIMPLE, INEXPENSIVE FREEWAYS TO ACTUALLY BEGIN ADDRESSING THIS YESTERDAY, RIGHT? UM, NOW AS FAR AS, I, I THINK I JUST HEARD CLAYTON PERRY SUGGEST THAT WE DEFUND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PROGRAMS, UH, THAT PROVIDE SOME OF THESE SERVICES.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT HE MEANT, BUT I, I DO ASSURE EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM, HAVING WORKED WITH A BATTERED WOMEN AND CHILDREN'S SHELTER IN THE RAPE CRISIS CENTER, NONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO WORK THERE WANT THOSE PROGRAMS TO GET BIGGER.

YOU KNOW, IN FACT, ALL OF THEM WANT TO BE PUT OUT OF BUSINESS EVENTUALLY, RIGHT? NOBODY CELEBRATES MORE WOMEN COMING IN NEXT MONTH BECAUSE THEY GET MORE GRANTS.

UM, AND, YOU KNOW, I'LL REMIND YOU THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, NOT INVESTING IN THIS KIND OF PROGRAM RESULTS IN DEAD WOMEN AND DEAD CHILDREN, AND THERE'S NO CITY ON THE PLANET THAT HAS EVER REDUCED DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, CHILD ABUSE OR RAPE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT BY SPENDING LESS RESOURCES ON PREVENTION AND SHELTER AND EDUCATION.

AND SO, UM, OBVIOUSLY FOR ME, IT'S VERY PERSONAL, BUT, UM, I, I, I CAN'T THINK THAT ANY SAN ANTONIO WOULD FAULT US FOR, UH, EMBRACING THE ARGUMENT THAT AS OUR CITY GETS BIGGER, THE PROBLEM GROWS TOO.

AND OUR RESPONSE TO IT SHOULD MATCH THAT GROWTH.

AND SO, THANKS FOR WHAT YOU DO, DOCTOR.

AND I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA KEEP PRESSING.

THANKS.

THANKS, MAYOR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

COUNCILMAN PAULIS.

COUNCILMAN K.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UH, WHY DON'T YOU STAY UP THERE, COLLEEN? ALL RIGHT.

UM, I THINK THAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I HAD, UH, HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR ABOUT THE TRAUMA-INFORMED CARE.

UH, THERE WAS SOME FINANCIAL SUGGESTIONS THAT KIND OF WENT ALONG WITH THAT, AND EXCUSE ME, I KNOW IT WAS SOMEWHERE AROUND A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS OR SO.

AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET AND, UH, I SUPPORT THE, UH, DIFFERENT SEGMENTS OF THE PLAN.

I HEARD ABOUT A LOT OF 'EM HAD TO DO WITH KIDS, AND A LOT OF 'EM HAD TO DO WITH KIDS IN SCHOOL, AND A LOT OF 'EM HAD TO DO WITH HOW PARENTS NEED TO HELP THEIR KIDS IN SCHOOL, AND HOW, UH, TRAUMA AT HOME AFFECTS THE, THE WELLBEING OF THE STUDENTS AND HOW SUCCESSFUL THEY ARE.

AND ALL THAT FITS INTO MY HISTORY AS A TEACHER.

SO I, I REALLY AM SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.

AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVING TO ADD MORE TO THE BUDGET, WE ALWAYS NEED TO THINK OF WHERE'S, WHERE CAN THAT MONEY COME FROM? ONE OF THE THOUGHTS THAT CAME TO MY MIND, AND I'VE EXPRESSED THIS, IS THAT, UH, ALREADY WE HAVE PRE-K FOR SA AND THEY HAVE A PROGRAM ON PARENTING, TEACHING PARENTS HOW TO BE PARENT BETTER PARENTS, HOW TO SUPPORT THEIR KIDS.

AT THE SAME TIME, THE STATE LEGISLATURE JUST ADDED A THOUSAND DOLLARS TO EVERY STUDENT IN SCHOOL.

IN TEXAS, WE'VE GOT 2000 STUDENTS WHO ARE GOING TO OUR PRE-K FOR SA.

UH, THAT'S 2 MILLION MORE DOLLARS.

NOW, I KNOW THAT PRE-K FOR SA DOESN'T KEEP ALL THAT MONEY.

THEY SPLIT IT BETWEEN THE, THE HOMESCHOOL DISTRICT AND PRE-K FOR SA.

I THINK PRE-K FOR SA KEEPS THREE QUARTERS OF THAT, AND THEN THE HOMESCHOOL KEEPS A QUARTER.

AND SO THAT MEANS THERE'S THREE QUARTERS OF A MILLION DOLLARS OF ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT SHOULD BE COMING TO PRE-K FOUR SA OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS BECAUSE OF THE INCREASED FUNDING THAT'S COMING FROM THE STATE.

I THINK THAT THAT ONE AND A HALF MILLION COULD FILL THAT, THAT GAP IN FINANCING, UH, THE TRAUMA-INFORMED CARE PROGRAM.

UH, IT, IT WOULDN'T AFFECT THE, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY PRE-K FOR SA HAS FOR SUPPORTING ITSELF.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, IT STILL HAS A FUN BALANCE OF, FOR NEXT YEAR, I THINK $5 MILLION, WHICH IT KEEPS INVESTING IN WORKING WITH OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO IMPROVE THEIR

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PROGRAMS, WHICH IS GREAT.

BUT ALL OF THOSE PROGRAMS ARE GONNA GET ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR PRE-K PROGRAMS, WHICH SOME OF 'EM DIDN'T HAVE, OR SOME OF 'EM ONLY HAD A HALF YEAR, A HALF DAY.

SO THEY'RE GONNA BE GETTING MORE MONEY TO DO THAT.

SO I WOULD SUGGEST WE LOOK AT REALLOCATING THAT ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT PRE-K MAY GET, AND SINCE THEY ALREADY PAY FOR PARENTING PROGRAMS AND PROGRAMS GEARED AT HELPING THE PARENTS AND THE STUDENTS BE SUCCESSFUL, THAT THAT COULD BE WHERE WE LOOK TO GET THAT FUNDING RATHER THAN TRYING TO PULL SOMETHING OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.

SO, I'D LIKE TO JUST ASK STAFF TO LOOK AT THAT, SEE IF IT'S DOABLE.

I DON'T THINK IT'LL HURT PRE-K, BUT IT'LL HELP US WITH THAT, MAYBE THAT MILLION, MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS TO FUND THESE FULL PROGRAMS UNDER THE TRAUMA-INFORMED CARE.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT SUGGESTION.

UH, THE OTHER, UH, COMMENT I WANNA MAKE, IT'S, IT'S ON HOUSING.

AND, UH, LORI, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET UP BECAUSE I'M NOT GONNA REALLY ASK YOU ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO REALIZE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, A NEW HUD LEVEL OF AVERAGE MEDIAN INCOME IN THE COMING YEAR OF $71,000 FOR A FAMILY OF FOUR IN OUR SAN ANTONIO AREA.

IN 2017, THAT NUMBER WAS 56,500.

SO IN ABOUT THREE YEARS, IT'S GONE UP NEARLY $15,000 IN THEIR CALCULATION FOR THE MEDIAN INCOME FOR A FAMILY OF FOUR.

WELL, WE KNOW THAT WITHIN THE CITY ITSELF, NOT THE HUD DISTRICT, BUT WITHIN THE CITY DISTRICT, THE AVERAGE FAMILY OF INCOME IS PROBABLY RIGHT AROUND THAT AT A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THEIR INCOME.

AND WE'RE SAYING, WELL, WE'RE GONNA GIVE 'EM 80% A HUD, WHICH IS REALLY GONNA PUT 'EM CLOSER TO A HUNDRED PERCENT OF WHAT THEY ACTUALLY GET AS AN AVERAGE INCOME IN SAN ANTONIO, WHICH IS WHY I STRONGLY ADVOCATE THAT WE GET THE NUMBER DOWN TO 50% A M I ON AS MANY, IF NOT ALL OF OUR PROJECTS.

BECAUSE IF YOU TAKE 50% OF 71,000, THAT'S 35,000, 35 5 IN OUR CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS WITH BUSINESSES THAT COME TO SAN ANTONIO, WE HAVE TWO FINANCIAL LEVEL LEVELS WE LOOK AT.

ONE IS $12 AN HOUR, AT LEAST IN ORDER TO QUALIFY FOR CONSIDERATION.

THE OTHER IS $16 AN HOUR.

WE, UH, WITH SOME PENNIES THROWN IN THERE AT $12 AN HOUR, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT $25,000 A YEAR, WHICH IS WAY BELOW THE 50% A M I AT $16 AN HOUR.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT $33,000 INCOME FOR SOMEONE WHO'S WORKING.

AND THESE, THIS IS WHAT WE SAY TO COMPANIES THAT WANNA COME TO SAN ANTONIO AND WANNA OFFER MINIMUM SALARIES, BUT WE'RE STILL SAYING, WELL, YEAH, WE WANT YOU HERE.

SO IF WE CAN'T EVEN PROVIDE PEOPLE AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHO ARE GONNA BE GETTING $12 AN HOUR AT BUSINESSES WE WELCOME, OR $16 AN HOUR AT BUSINESSES, WE WELCOME, WE ARE UNDERCUTTING THOSE JOBS AND THOSE PEOPLE WHO NEED AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE HOUSING.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE REALLY HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT VERY CLOSELY AS WE DETERMINE WHAT ARE THE LEVELS WE ARE GOING TO ASK BUILDERS TO SAY THEY CAN BUILD AT.

AND I KNOW IT MAY BE PUTTING A REAL HARDSHIP ON FINDING BUILDERS WHO CAN DO THAT, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO TRY AND, AND GO IN THAT DIRECTION ON THIS IF WE'RE GONNA PROVIDE TRULY AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE HOUSING, UH, FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO EMPLOY IN SOME OF THESE COMPANIES THAT ARE COMING TO SAN ANTONIO.

UH, WHAT WAS THE ONE THAT THAT JUST OPENED UP ON THE WEST SIDE? UH, THE, THE STORE COMPANY, UM, TJ.

YEAH, RIGHT, TJ MAXX THAT THEY WANTED TO GIVE THEIR PEOPLE $10 AN HOUR.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE REALLY GOTTA CONSIDER THAT STRONGLY IN, IN THIS WHOLE, UH, LOOK AT WHAT IS GONNA BE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT WE AS A CITY CAN HELP SUPPORT.

AND I DON'T CARE WHAT THE R O I IS ON THAT.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.

COURAGE.

COUNCILMAN TREVINO.

GREAT, GREAT POINTS.

COUNCILMAN COURAGE.

AND I THINK WE NEED TO, UM, HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH, WITH, WITH RENE DOMINGUEZ, UH, ABOUT THAT, UM, BECAUSE IT, TO YOUR POINT ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UM, WE GOTTA UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT THAT MEANS.

ARE WE TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE CONSTRUCTION OR SUBSIDIZED HOUSING? RIGHT? SO I MEAN, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT, THAT DISTINCTION, AND I JUST HAVE SOME COMMENTS, UM, ABOUT, UH, HOUSING.

UH, SO IN THE CHART, UH,

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UH, FOR THE BUSINESS PLAN, WE HAVE ALL THIS IN, IN UNDER THE BUSINESS PLAN.

WE, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, ROOFS AND MINOR REPAIR AND, AND, AND PAINT, UH, WHICH, YOU KNOW, I WOULD ASK THAT WE, WE NEED TO CONSIDER, DOES THAT ACTUALLY REHAB A HOME? UM, AND THEN WE, WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, WE, AGAIN, HOME CONSTRUCTION AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE NEED TO, TO TO THINK ABOUT WHAT PART OF THIS, UH, WHAT PORTION OF THIS COULD GO TOWARDS SOME KIND OF INNOVATION OR INNOVATIVE BUILDING.

UM, THERE'S THE EARTH AND CONSTRUCTION INSTITUTE THAT IS, UH, WE'VE GOT THEM IN OUR U D C NOW, AND NOW THEY'RE ASKING TO CREATE AN A S T M STANDARD HERE LOCALLY THAT WE AS A CITY COULD OWN IF WE INVEST IN IT.

THE ASK IS, I THINK $47,000.

I'M GONNA MAKE A CASE FOR THAT.

I THINK IT'S, UH, IT'S BEEN DEMONSTRATED, UH, TIME AND AGAIN, UH, I THINK EVEN, UH, ESPERANZA CENTER, UH, RECENTLY DID A RAMMED EARTH PROJECT, AND IT JUST SHOWS THAT, THAT THERE ARE DIFFERENT BUILDING METHODOLOGIES THAT COULD, UH, UH, BOTH BE INNOVATIVE AND AFFORDABLE.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AND I'D LIKE US TO, TO CARVE OUT, YOU KNOW, AS LITTLE AS $47,000 TOWARDS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE INNOVATIVE.

AND, AND IT ACTUALLY GOES BACK TO, UH, THIS, THIS ORIGINAL IDEA TOO, UH, WAY BACK WHERE WE TALK ABOUT REVENUE GENERATION.

AND SO IF WE INVEST IN IT AS A CITY AND CREATE THE A S T M STANDARDS, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TOWARDS, UH, ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES FOR SMALL BUSINESSES TO THEN LEARN THAT CRAFT USE, USE THAT IN CONSTRUCT, YOU KNOW, SORT OF BUILD A SMALL BUSINESS, UH, EXPORT THAT OUTSIDE THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, UH, AND, AND CREATE THAT, THAT WORKFORCE THAT WE NEED.

AND I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHERE YOU WERE HEADED WITH SOME OF THAT.

AND, AND SO CERTAINLY I WOULD SUPPORT THAT, UH, THAT WE, THAT WE LOOK AT INNOVATIVE WAYS TO REALLY LOOK AT, AT THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT BOTH ARE, ARE ALSO SORT OF HELP OUT WITH OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE NEEDING.

FOR EXAMPLE, A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE TALKED TO WITH DR.

BRIDGER AND LORI ABOUT IS, IS HEALTHY BUILDINGS, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I'M, WE, WE, WE REALLY NEED TO START THINKING ABOUT OUR TEMPERATURE HERE.

AND I DON'T MEAN AIR CONDITIONING.

I, I MEAN, THE WAY YOU BUILD SOMETHING SHOULD BE REALLY, UH, THOUGHT ABOUT.

AND, AND EARTH AND CONSTRUCTION REALLY DOES SPEAK TO THAT.

AND I THINK THAT THERE'S OTHER METHODOLOGIES THAT WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT ACTUALLY HELP THE CITY OVERALL THAT WE SHOULD BE, UH, THE FRONT, FRONT RUNNERS ON AND, AND HELPING TO ESTABLISH, UH, SOME NEW BUSINESSES.

AND I KNOW IN FACT, WHEN WE PUT THAT IN THE U D C CODE, I HAD A GENTLEMAN COME UP TO ME WHO, WHO BENEFITED RIGHT AWAY AND SAID, LOOK, I, I STARTED MY BUSINESS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU NOW HAVE THIS, THIS EARTH AND SPEC IN YOUR U D C, UH, HELPING TO CREATE, USE A S T M STANDARDS IS THAT NEXT STEP.

IT'LL, IT'LL PUT THE PROGRAM ON STEROIDS.

AND I, I THINK THAT THAT IS, THAT IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT.

SO I'M JUST MAKING MY PITCH THERE.

UM, AND THEN, UM, IAN, I THINK YOU MENTIONED THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA BE, UH, LOOKING FOR MAKING SURE THAT, THAT, THAT FOLKS WHO ARE, UH, OVER 65 ARE, ARE TAKING ALL THE EXEMPTIONS.

AGAIN, I'M GONNA REITERATE THAT THE, UH, BARE APPRAISAL DISTRICT IS CURRENTLY DOING AN AUDIT THAT WE'RE HIRED SOMEBODY TO DO AN AUDIT.

I SUGGEST THAT WE WORK WITH THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT, UH, TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SHARING THIS DATA.

UH, IT, IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE GOAL OF THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT HAS BEEN TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY WHO WHO QUALIFIES FOR A CIRCUIT BREAKER WILL GET IT.

AND, UH, WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE THOSE THAT, THAT ARE NOT TAKING ADVANTAGE.

AND OF COURSE, THERE ARE THOSE THAT UNFORTUNATELY ARE, THAT SHOULDN'T QUALIFY, BUT LET'S, LET'S WORK TOGETHER.

AND I WANT, AGAIN, IF, IF, UH, WE'LL GET YOU THE CONTACT OVER THERE.

BUT I, I HOPE THAT YOU'RE, WE DON'T WANT TO, WE DON'T NEED TO BE DOUBLING EFFORTS.

WE, WE CAN BE WORKING WITH THEM ON, ON, ON THIS PARTICULAR EFFORT THAT'S ALREADY BEING INVESTED ON.

UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SPEAK, OBVIOUSLY, I GOTTA SPEAK ABOUT THE, THE ROOF PROGRAM UNDER ONE ROOF.

YES.

KIM RAPIER WAS, WAS OUR DONOR.

WE'RE SO, SO, UM, GRATEFUL TO HAVE SOMEBODY WHO WAS WILLING TO PUT IN A MILLION DOLLARS TOWARDS THIS PROGRAM.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAD JUST THIS YEAR ALONE, OVER 900 APPLICATIONS COME IN, AND OF COURSE, WE CAN'T GET TO ALL OF THEM.

AND, UM, AND THAT'S BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW THE PROGRAM EXISTS.

SO THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT KNOW THERE'S OVER 900 THAT HAVE COME IN, COME IN THIS YEAR, WE HOPE TO HAVE DONE, AS YOU CAN SEE, ABOUT 400 ROOFS.

SO THERE'S A HUGE NEED.

AND IN FACT, IT WAS IDENTIFIED IN THE HOUSING TASK FORCE THAT THERE'S, I THINK IT'S 6,800 ROOFS TOTAL THAT NEED TO BE DONE.

AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS A PROGRAM ENDORSED BY BY THAT GROUP.

AND, UH,

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CAN TELL YOU, UH, ANOTHER THING THAT I'D LIKE FOR US TO START DOING IS, LET'S TAKE THAT NUMBER, UH, LET'S APPLY IT TO HOW MUCH WE'RE, HOW MUCH, UH, WE'RE COMPLETING, YOU KNOW, THAT OVERALL, UH, UH, GOAL SO THAT WE CAN SAY, LOOK, THIS YEAR WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA GET 10% OF THAT DONE NEXT YEAR.

WE'RE GONNA GET 15% OF THAT DONE AND SHOW THAT PROGRESS.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR.

AND, AND IN THIS CASE, UH, THERE, THERE IS A LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL.

IN A LOT OF CASES, THERE IS NO FINISH LINE, BUT IN THIS ONE, THERE COULD BE.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO, UH, MAKE A PITCH FOR THAT TOO, BECAUSE THIS WILL HELP US WHEN WE, WHEN WE START TO MAKE THE CASE, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE GET, UH, FOLKS LIKE KIM RAPIER, UH, TO HELP OUT AND SAY, LOOK, YOU CAN HELP US KIND OF GET OVER THAT HUMP.

WE WANT TO GET ON PA, BE ON PACE TO HIT THIS MANY ROOFS, AND JUST WANT TO THANK THE, THE COUNTY AS THEY'RE LOOKING TO COME IN AND EXPAND THE PROGRAM TO NOW BE COUNTYWIDE.

UH, THIS IS, UH, UM, A PROGRAM THAT I THINK IS, IS BEING VERY, VERY HELPFUL TO A LOT OF FOLKS AND IMPACTFUL, AND I THINK THE BEST AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS THE EXISTING HOUSING WE HAVE.

SO LET'S, LET'S KEEP WORKING ON THAT.

UH, AND THANKS, LORI, FOR, FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS.

UM, AND, AND SO, UH, DR.

BRIDGER, UM, JUST COUPLE THINGS.

UM, NUMBER ONE, KIND OF INSPIRED BY WHAT COUNCILMAN ELIAS MENTIONED, UM, WE ALSO KNOW THAT THERE'S, UM, A LOT OF, A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE, UM, GOING THROUGH, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, DIFFICULT ISSUES BECAUSE OF DOME DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND UNFORTUNATE SITUATIONS, PUT THEM IN A, IN A, IN A SOMEWHAT FEELING LIKE THEY'RE IN A NO-WIN SITUATION.

AND, UM, I WONDER IF ANIMAL CARE SERVICES COULD BE HELPFUL.

WE, THERE'S A STATISTIC, AND I THINK, I THINK MAYBE, UH, MANNY KNOWS THIS BETTER THAN I DO, BUT WE KNOW THAT THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, PEOPLE THAT ARE IN ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIPS THAT DON'T, THAT, THAT ARE ALSO WORRIED ABOUT THEIR PETS AND DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY CAN, WHERE, WHERE THEY CAN, UM, LEAVE THEM OR SHELTER THEM.

SO I WOULD ASK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, LET'S, LET'S LOOK AT THE RESOURCES WE HAVE AND THE SHELTERS, AND OF COURSE, A C S TO SEE HOW THEY COULD HELP IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE.

OKAY.

UM, SO, OKAY, I GUESS WE'RE GONNA SAY, SO, ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMAN, THIS WAS ACTUALLY AN ISSUE THAT WAS BROUGHT, UH, TO OUR ATTENTION BY, UM, THE BATTERED WOMEN'S SHELTER AND, UH, AND OTHER RESIDENTS ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO.

SO, ANIMAL CARE SERVICES WORKS WITH SS A P D, AND WHEN THERE IS A VICTIM THAT NEEDS A TEMPORARY SHELTER FOR A PET, WE HELP IDENTIFIED A PARTNER, EITHER A D L OR HUMANE SOCIETY, OR ONE OF OUR RESCUE ORGANIZATIONS TO BE A FOSTER PARENT FOR THAT PET UNTIL THAT INDIVIDUAL IS, UH, READY TO BE BACK ON THEIR OWN.

WELL, THAT'S GREAT TO HEAR.

UM, SO, SO MAYBE WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT SOME MORE AND SHOW, I MEAN, ALL THE, ALL THE GREAT WORK THAT IS, THAT IS BEING DONE.

THANK YOU, MARIA.

UM, AND THEN LASTLY, I I, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO SHAPE THIS QUESTION, BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A DIFFICULT QUESTION AND IT'S, IT'S EVEN SOMEWHAT PERSONAL.

UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK PART OF THIS TOO IS, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS, IS, UH, WHEN I HEAR, WELL, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE NUMBERS ARE GOING UP AND, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T HELP BUT WONDER HOW MANY, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY COMFORTABLE IN SPEAKING ABOUT IT TO BEGIN WITH, RIGHT? I MEAN, I THINK THERE'S THAT LAYER OF EMBARRASSMENT.

YOU KNOW, I'LL TELL YOU AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I HOPE MY MOTHER FORGIVES ME, BUT, YOU KNOW, YEARS AGO I MET WITH MANNY'S MOTHER AND I TALKED, I, I TALKED ABOUT DOING SOME THINGS TOGETHER, AND I ASKED MY MOTHER TO BE, YOU KNOW, INCLUDED.

AND SHE, SHE JUST SAID, NO, SHE JUST DID NOT WANNA DO IT.

AND, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I KNOW THAT'S HARD AND, UM, YOU KNOW, SO I, I DON'T KNOW, AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I I TO SHAPE THIS QUESTION, BUT IT'S MORE ABOUT HOW CAN, HOW CAN WE INFORM OURSELVES BETTER? HOW CAN WE EDUCATE OURSELVES MORE ABOUT, UM, THAT, THAT ABILITY TO REACH PEOPLE AND GIVE 'EM THAT SENSE OF, OF, UM, HOW DO I SAY, UH, THE ABILITY TO, TO, TO, TO HAVE FAITH, TO, TO, TO REACH OUT MM-HMM.

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UM, BECAUSE I, I, I KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE, JUST SOME PEOPLE, THEY JUST DON'T WANNA DO IT.

YEAH.

I MEAN, I THINK STIGMA IS AN ISSUE WITH A LOT OF, UM, THESE PARTICULAR CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH, BUT THAT ONE IS ESPECIALLY CHALLENGING.

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WELL, AGAIN, I, I'LL JUST ASK, UM, MAYBE THERE'S A WAY TO, TO REPORT ON IT OR, OR TRACK IT SOMEHOW JUST SO THAT WE CAN GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF, OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT DOES IT TAKE? IS IT, IS IT, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS IT THAT WE'RE NOT DOING? OR COULD, COULD WE DO DIFFERENTLY THAT MIGHT GIVE, UH, GIVE PEOPLE MORE COMFORT IN TAKING THAT LEAP OF FAITH? MM-HMM.

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YEAH, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANKS, COLLEEN.

THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN TREVINO.

UM, THANK YOU, DR.

BRIDGER.

I THINK THE ENDURANCE AWARD FOR TODAY GOES TO DR.

ADRIANA ROCHA, GARCIA .

SHE'S STILL SITTING HERE.

I DON'T THINK SHE'S GOTTEN UP TO GO TO THE BATHROOM YET, .

UM, BUT THANK YOU ALL FOR THE PRESENTATION.

WE, WE HAVE LOST THE QUORUM, BUT I THINK WE'RE GONNA CALL IT AT THIS POINT.

ANYWAYS, ERIC, YOU YOU GOT IT? YES.

SO WE'LL, UH, THERE WERE TWO OTHER ITEMS. LISTEN, WE'LL WORK TO GET THOSE SCHEDULED NEXT WEEK, UH, UH, BOTH THE CIVILIAN COMPENSATION AND, UH, JEFF COYLE AND SPEAK UP SA RESULTS.

SO, BUT WE'LL WORK WITH YOU.

I I REALLY APPRECIATE THE, THE TIME, UH, AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS NOW, UH, IN ADVANCE OF THE 21ST.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

WELL, THANK YOU EVERYONE.

I, I, I DO WANNA UNDERSTATE THAT, I MEAN, UNDERSCORE THAT WE'RE GONNA GO HAVE OUR POLICY, UH, OUR GOAL SETTING SESSION ON THE 21ST, BUT WE'RE ALSO, AFTER THE PROPOSED BUDGET, GONNA HEAR FROM THESE DEPARTMENTS AGAIN.

BUT I THINK IT'S A RECOGNITION OF WHAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE THAT WE HAVE HEARD THESE PRESENTATIONS TODAY.

SO THANK YOU ERIC, AND UH, THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUES.

WE ARE ADJOURNED.