* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. GOOD MORNING. WELCOME TO OUR CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL SESSION FOR BUDGET GOAL SETTING. I'LL ASK OUR CLERK TO READ THE ROLE TODAY. YES, SIR. COUNCIL MEMBER VINNO. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW SULLIVAN. HERE, COUNCIL UH, COUNCIL MEMBER VRAN. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ. COUNCIL MEMBER CAVEO BERDA. PRESENT, COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER ELIAS. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY HERE. AND MAYOR NURENBERG. HERE. MAYOR, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. GREAT. THE TIME IS NOW 9:18 AM ON THIS, UH, FRIDAY, JUNE 20TH, 2019. EXCITING NEW DAY HERE TO REMIND EVERYONE WE ARE BROADCASTING LIVE. THIS IS A FULLY AGENDIZED PUBLIC MEETING. IT'S THE 21ST. YOU'RE RIGHT. TODAY'S THE 21ST. IT IS SUMMER SOLSTICE, WHICH MEANS THAT THIS IS THE LONGEST DAY OF THE YEAR, , WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO. BUT IT IS A REMINDER THAT SUN SHINES BRIGHTLY IN SAN ANTONIO. AND I DO WANNA WELCOME YOU TO THE START OF THE 2020 BUDGET PROCESS. AS Y'ALL KNOW, THE DIRECTION FROM OUR DISCUSSION TODAY WILL GUIDE EVERYTHING ELSE WE DO AS A COUNCIL AND AS A CITY FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR. SO NO PRESSURE. I'D LIKE TO EXTEND A SPECIAL WELCOME TO OUR BRAND NEW MEMBERS IN THEIR FIRST BUDGET SESSION, WHICH IS JADA ANDREW SULLIVAN IN DISTRICT TWO, ADRIANA ROCHE GARCIA IN DISTRICT FOUR, AND MELISSA COVEO HDA IN DISTRICT SIX. WELCOME AND WELCOME BACK TO ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES. I PLEDGED IN MY INAUGURAL REMARKS TO BE YOUR GREATEST SUPPORTER AND TOP COLLABORATOR, A CHAMPION FOR OUR CITY'S PROGRESS. AND I INTEND TO DO JUST THAT, AND I KNOW WE ALL WILL TODAY. UNITY, EQUITY AND MOBILITY WE BUILD WILL BE MAJOR THEMES TODAY. IN FACT, OUR CITY BUDGET IS MUCH MORE THAN JUST A FINANCIAL DOCUMENT. AS OUR COLLEAGUE JOHN, UH, LIKES TO SAY. IT'S A REFLECTION OF OUR VALUES. IT'S A VISION FOR OUR COMMUNITY. IT'S A MORAL COVENANT WITH OUR PEOPLE. SAN ANTONIO IS ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING CITIES IN THE COUNTRY, BUT IT'S ALSO ONE OF THE MOST SEGREGATED CITIES. WHILE WE'RE THE SEVENTH LARGEST IN POPULATION, WE'RE ALSO THE 166TH MOST MOST PRODUCTIVE. THOSE ARE GAPS WE MUST BRIDGE TO BE AN EQUITABLE, INCLUSIVE, AND PROSPER CITY. AND IN MANY WAYS, FROM HIGH PAYING JOBS TO EMPLOYER RECRUITMENT, WE'RE STRONGER THAN EVER. I'D ARGUE THAT THERE'S NEVER BEEN A BETTER TIME IN OUR CITY'S 301 YEARS TO LIVE, WORK, AND PLAY AND INVEST AND PURSUE YOUR FUTURE IN SAN ANTONIO THAN RIGHT NOW. BUT IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT ARGUMENT EVERY SINGLE DAY IN THE FUTURE, WE MUST TAKE ACTION, TRAFFIC, CONGESTION, RISK, GRINDING OUR GROWTH TO A HALT. WE NEED BETTER ALTERNATIVES IN A FULLY FUNDED PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM. TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY, OF COURSE, WILL BE ONE OF MY TOP PRIORITIES. WE ALSO HAVE AN IMBALANCE IN THE HOUSING MARKET, WHICH WE'VE WORKED VERY HARD TO ADDRESS. WAGES ARE NOT KEEPING UP WITH THE COST OF HOUSING. WE MUST CONTINUE IMPLEMENTING THE TASK FORCE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED AND INVEST IN MORE AFFORDABLE UNITS FOR THE CITIZENS OF SAN ANTONIO. EVERYONE DESERVES A PLACE TO CALL HOME. IT'S THE FOUNDATION OF A FAMILY'S FUTURE IN A CORNERSTONE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. THE OTHER PART OF MOBILITY IS THAT WE MUST FOCUS ON ECONOMIC MOBILITY. BY 2020, 60% OF ALL NEW JOBS WILL REQUIRE SOME FORM OF HIGHER EDUCATION. AND SO IN ORDER FOR US TO BE A COMPETITIVE CITY, WE MUST EXPAND ACCESS TO EDUCATION AND HIGHER EDUCATION. THAT MEANS THE ALAMO PROMISE TUITION FREE COMMUNITY COLLEGE FOR ALL QUALIFYING SAN ANTONIO HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES. THIS INVESTMENT IS A MOONSHOT TO INCREASE SOCIAL MOBILITY AND REDUCE GENERATIONAL POVERTY. THESE ARE SOME OF MY PRIORITIES GOING IN TODAY'S SESSION. AND SO THERE ARE A HOST OF OTHER, UH, ALSO IMPORTANT TOPICS THAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT, INCLUDING PUBLIC SAFETY, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, CLIMATE ACTION, AND ADAPTATION, AND MUCH MORE. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING YOUR IDEAS AND YOUR PRIORITIES TO MOVE OUR CITY FORWARD. I BELIEVE THAT BY WORKING TOGETHER, ALLOCATING OUR RESOURCES WITH EQUITY AS A GUIDING PRINCIPLE, WE CAN MAKE REAL PROGRESS FOR ALL OF SAN ANTONIO. THE OTHER OUTCOME FOR TODAY IS THAT WE WILL BUILD, ONCE AGAIN, A GREAT TEAM THAT WORKS ON BEHALF OF OUR ENTIRE CITY, UH, A DIVERSE CITY, A CITY THAT EMBRACES OUR DIFFERENCES TO CREATE A STRONGER COMMUNITY. AND SO I LOOK FORWARD TO BUILDING THAT TEAM AND SHOWING OFF WHAT A GREAT TEAM SAN ANTONIO, UH, OUR CITY COUNCIL CAN BE. SO THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH, AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO OUR CITY MANAGER, ERIC WALSH. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UH, GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. UH, TODAY, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE HOLDING OUR ANNUAL BUDGET GOAL SETTING SESSION, UH, TO OBTAIN POLICY DIRECTION AS WE DEVELOPED THE 2020, UH, UH, BUDGET. AS YOU'LL RECALL, LAST WEEK ON JUNE 12TH AND 13TH, THE COUNCIL WAS PRESENTED WITH INFORMATION ON A NUMBER OF KEY ISSUES IN PREPARATION OF TODAY'S MEETING. UM, THE INTENT OF THAT WAS THAT BY HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND, UH, GROUNDWORK DONE LAST WEEK, [00:05:01] IT WOULD ALLOW YOU MORE TIME TODAY TO DISCUSS AMONGST YOURSELVES DELIBERATE AND REACH CONSENSUS ON FINANCIAL POLICIES AND SERVICE DELIVERY PRIORITIES THAT'LL GUIDE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE, OF THE, UH, BALANCED 2020 PROPOSED BUDGET. SO WE'LL TAKE TODAY'S INPUT, UH, AND USE IT TO DEVELOP THE SPENDING PLAN OVER THE COURSE OF THE SUMMER. THE CITY BUDGET BEGINS ON OCTOBER 1ST AND ENDS ON SEPTEMBER 30TH. AND RIGHT NOW, I'M, I'M SCHEDULED TO PRESENT, UH, TO YOU AT CITY COUNCIL, THE PROPOSED BUDGET ON AUGUST 8TH, UM, AS PRESCRIBED IN THE CITY CHARTER. THE BUDGET MUST BE ADOPTED NO LATER THAN SEPTEMBER 27TH, AND WE ARE TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED TO ADOPT THE BUDGET OR PRESENT THE, THE BUDGET ADOPTION TO YOU ON SEPTEMBER 12TH, UH, ON TUESDAY OF THIS WEEK. UM, JEFF COYLE PROVIDED THE RESULTS OF THE ESSAY SPEAK UP CAMPAIGN, AND IT'S INCLUDED IN THE BINDER, UH, BEFORE YOU. AND I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THREE QUICK AREAS AND WE'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY DURING THE DAY TO, TO FURTHER DWELL INTO IT. BUT MANY OF YOU KNOW, THE SA SPEAKUP TEAM IS MADE UP OF A, A TEAM OF CITY EMPLOYEES AND U T S A STUDENTS, AND THEY ATTENDED OVER 30 COMMUNITY EVENTS DURING MONTH, DURING THE MONTHS OF MARCH, APRIL, AND MAY. DURING THE EVENTS, THE SA SPEAKUP TEAM INVITED RESIDENTS TO PROVIDE INPUT ON BUDGET PRIORITIES BY COMPLETING A BRIEF SURVEY, UH, RESIDENTS WERE ABLE TO COMPLETE THE SURVEY ON SA SPEAKUP.COM OR IN PERSON THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA. AND WE ALSO HAD, UM, RESOURCES AVAILABLE AT LIBRARY BRANCHES AND SENIOR CENTERS. UH, I'M PLEASED TO SHARE WITH THE COUNCIL THAT, UH, WE HAD A TOTAL OF 11,049 RESIDENTS THAT PARTICIPATED IN THIS INPUT PROCESS, WHICH WAS A NEW HIGH FOR US IN TERMS OF PUBLIC PARTICIPATION REGARDING THE BUDGET. 8,693 COMPLETED. THE SURVEY 755, UH, INCLUDED OPEN-ENDED COMMENTS. UM, 2100 PARTICIPATED IN THE MARCH 19TH TELEPHONE TOWN HALL HOSTED BY MARIA AND I, UM, WHERE WE TOOK QUESTIONS LIVE ON THE AIR. UM, THAT WAS INTERESTING, AND I WAS, I, I WAS, UM, SURPRISED THAT THERE WERE 2100 PEOPLE THAT PARTICIPATED. UH, BUT IT WAS, UH, IT WAS A NEW MODE OF OUTREACH THAT MAKES IT EASIER AND REACHES PEOPLE IN THEIR HOME. WE HAD 256 RESIDENTS PROVIDE COMMENTS THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA. SO AS A RESULT OF THOSE EFFORTS, UM, RESIDENTS SAID THAT THE MOST IMPORTANT SERVICE AREAS, UH, IN ORDER, AND IT'S ON THE SLIDE BEFORE YOU, UM, UH, NUMBER ONE, HOUSING AFFORDABILITY, NUMBER TWO, STREETS AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND THREE PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES, UM, WITH REGARDS TO INCREASED FUNDING FOR SERVICES, RESIDENTS RANKED STREETS AND INFRASTRUCTURE, PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES AND NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENTS. AND FINALLY, RESIDENTS WERE IN, UH, INDICATED THAT THE TOP THREE SERVICE AREAS THAT THEY THOUGHT, UH, FUNDING SHOULD BE DECREASED, UH, WERE CODE ENFORCEMENT, LIBRARY SERVICES, AND ANIMAL SERVICES. AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST KIND OF THREE SUMMARY LEVEL, UM, UH, GRAPHS. WE HAVE THE WHOLE REPORT, AND, AND WE CAN SPEND SOME TIME TODAY TALKING ABOUT IT. JEFF IS PREPARED TO DO THAT. BEFORE WE GET INTO THE POLICY DISCUSSION TODAY, I WANTED TO BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT, UH, HOW THE FINANCIAL PARAMETERS THAT WE OPERATE IN AS A CITY HAVE CHANGED SINCE, SINCE YOU AS A BODY SAT HERE LAST YEAR AND DEVELOPED, UH, THE BUDGET. AND WE MANY OF KNOW, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL, UH, BILLS PASSED IN THE LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION THAT HAVE, THAT WILL HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT, UH, ON US. SB TWO, THE PROPERTY TAX REFORM BILL WILL REDUCE THE CURRENT PROPERTY TAX ROLLBACK RATE FROM 8% TO 3.5%, UH, AND ALLOW US THE ABILITY TO CARRY FORWARD SOME UNUSED CAPACITY OVER A PERIOD OF TIME, PR PRIMARILY RECESSION YEARS. UH, YOU'LL RECALL IN THE LAST WEEK'S PRESENTATION, UH, BEN SHARED WITH YOU THAT IF SB TWO HAD BEEN IN PLACE FOR THE LAST DECADE, THE CITY WOULD'VE LOST A CU WOULD'VE LOST CUMULATIVELY $82 MILLION IN REVENUE, AND THE GENERAL FUND WOULD BE ABOUT $37 MILLION LESS NOW, UM, THAN IT IS BASED ON OUR CURRENT FINANCIAL POLICIES. THE POINT OF THAT IS THAT, THAT THE IMPACT THAT SB TWO WILL HAVE, UH, ON US IS REALLY IN THE FUTURE. UM, AND SSB TWO BECOMES EFFECTIVE FOR US AND OTHER CITIES AND COUNTIES NEXT FISCAL YEAR 2021. SO NOT, NOT 2020, BUT IN 2021. UH, ADDITIONALLY, SB 1152, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT LAST WEEK, UH, UH, CHANGES THE COMPENSATION THAT CITIES RECEIVE FOR THE USE OF PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY BY THE TELECOM AND CABLE COMPANIES. UM, AND THAT BECOMES EFFECTIVE ON SEPTEMBER 1ST OF THIS YEAR. THE PROJECTED IMPACT OF THAT, UH, BILL, UH, IS OVER $7 MILLION ANNUALLY, AND THAT'S A RECURRING REVENUE SOURCE THAT THE CITY HAS RECEIVED. SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A PERMANENT, UH, REMOVAL OF A RECURRING BASE REVENUE, UH, GOING FORWARD. THIRD, UH, WE ARE CURRENTLY IN MEDIATION WITH THE FIRE UNION, UH, FOR OUR SECOND LARGEST CONTRACT. WE HAVE [00:10:01] AT A LITTLE OVER $260 MILLION A YEAR. AND, UH, WHILE I'M HOPEFUL THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE AN AGREEMENT, UH, WITH THE FIRE UNION THROUGH MEDIATION, UH, THERE IS, UH, SOME UNCERTAINTY AND WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE ON THAT FRONT. THOSE THREE ITEMS I JUST MENTIONED CERTAINLY CHANGED THE FINANCIAL, UH, FRAMEWORK, UH, THAT THE CITY HAS HISTORICALLY OPERATED IN, UM, COMPOUNDING THAT IMPACT OF THE FUTURE. UH, AS MANY YOU REMEMBER FROM LAST WEEK'S PRESENTATION, WE ARE UNDER OUR BUDGET FOR C P S REVENUES BY $11 MILLION THROUGH MAY. UM, WE UTILIZE MODERATELY CONSERVATIVE REVENUE PROJECTIONS, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT IN THE PAST. SO THIS IS A POSITION WE TYPICALLY DON'T FIND OURSELVES IN ON CURRENT YEAR REVENUE, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH NOW. UH, THE MESSAGE HERE, MAYOR COUNCIL, IS THAT, UH, WE HAVE A STRONG TEAM AND, AND WE WILL MANAGE THROUGH THESE ISSUES, UH, AND WE WILL DEVELOP A PROPOSED BUDGET THAT REFLECTS THE COUNCIL'S POLICY AND SERVICE DELIVERY PRIORITIES. UM, HAVING SOUND FINANCIAL POLICIES AS AN ORGANIZATION, SETTING PRIORITIES, GOALS, AND TARGETS, AND HAVING REALISTIC EXPECTATIONS WILL GUIDE US THROUGH THAT. UM, BUT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THOSE TODAY. I THINK, UH, I THINK WE, UH, I THINK I DID WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ACKNOWLEDGE THE REALITY OF THE FINANCIAL CHALLENGES, UH, AHEAD OF US DURING TODAY'S GOAL SETTING SESSION. UH, IT'S BROKEN UP ON THE AGENDA AND, AND WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT IN A SECOND, BUT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVISIT AND CON AND, AND FOR THE COUNCIL TO, TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE BIG AREAS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST WEEK, BUDGET AND FINANCIAL POLICY ISSUES, PROPERTY TAX RELIEF, STREETS AND INFRASTRUCTURE, STRONG FAMILIES AND CHILDREN, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, POLICE, FIRE, AND CIVILIAN EMPLOYEE COMPENSATION. AS MANY OF YOU'RE AWARE, TODAY'S SESSION IS GONNA BE FACILITATED BY LINDA JIMENEZ AND SONIA JIMENEZ WITH JIMENEZ AND ASSOCIATES FOR 35 YEARS. UH, JIMENEZ AND ASSOCIATES HAS BEEN AN INDUSTRY LEADER IN THE FIELD OF PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT. THEIR CLIENTS HAVE INVOLVED GOVERNMENT, NONPROFIT, AND PRIVATE FIRMS. AND, UH, THEY, UH, THEIR CONSULTING SERVICES ARE DESIGNED TO, TO, UH, BETTER INTERACT AND INVOLVE COMMUNITIES IN THE DECISION-MAKING PROCESS. AND I AM SUPER EXCITED THAT, UH, THAT THEY HAVE AGREED TO HELP US HERE TODAY. AND, AND, UH, WITH THAT, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO SONYA, AND SHE'S GONNA PROVIDE A DETAILED OVERVIEW OF THE AGENDA. THANK YOU MANAGER. I AM SONYA JIMENEZ AND LINDA, AND I'LL BE CO-FACILITATING TODAY. UH, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ABOUT US. AS, UH, THE MANAGER MENTIONED, WE'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS SINCE 1984 IN SAN ANTONIO. UM, LINDA WAS NOT BORN IN SAN ANTONIO BECAUSE OF THE MILITARY, BUT SHE IS FROM SAN ANTONIO, AND WE ARE VERY EXCITED TO DO THIS WORK FOR YOU ALL. UM, I'M WAS NOT BORN IN SAN ANTONIO EITHER, BUT I CONSIDER IT HOME FOR AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER. AND SO THIS IS REALLY EXCITING FOR US. UM, I'VE REVIEWED ALL THE MATERIALS THAT YOU ALL HAVE IN THE NOTEBOOKS AND THE PRESENTATIONS, AND I THINK, UH, COLLECTIVELY, YOU'VE DONE AN INCREDIBLE JOB OF PULLING THIS TOGETHER IN A VERY SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME. IT SEEMS LIKE THE MANAGER'S OFFICE HAS BEEN VERY RESPONSIVE TO YOUR INFORMATION REQUESTS. SO I'M REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION UP FRONT SO THAT WE CAN SPEND THIS TIME WORKING TOGETHER, REALLY GETTING TO KNOW THE DYNAMIC OF THE GROUP AS WE MOVE FORWARD THROUGH THIS IMPORTANT SESSION. SO, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M GONNA GO OVER THE AGENDA. UH, IT'S IN YOUR BINDER. UM, THE DESIRED OUTCOMES FOR TODAY'S SESSION IS TO, UM, AS A RESULT, WE WANT THE CITY COUNCIL TO FEEL LIKE THEY'RE ABLE TO CONCUR ON THREE TO SIX POLICY ISSUES TO SERVE AS A GUIDE FOR THE CITY MANAGER IN PREPARATION OF THE 2020 PROPOSED BUDGET AND THE 2021 BUDGET PLAN. WE WANT YOU TO IDENTIFY AND AGREE UPON A SET OF OPERATING GUIDELINES FOR WORKING TOGETHER. THAT'S AN EXERCISE THAT LINDA'S GONNA DO WITH YOU ALL IN JUST A FEW MINUTES. UM, IT'S SPECIFIC TO THIS WORK SESSION, BUT IF YOU ARE PLEASED WITH THE RESULT, WE WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO USE THAT IN FUTURE SESSIONS TOGETHER. UH, WE'D LIKE FOR YOU TO BEGIN TO DELIBERATE TOGETHER AND UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES REPRESENTED BY THE COUNCIL MEMBERS. UM, IN MY VIEWS, SAN ANTONIO IS VERY MUCH A MICROCOSM OF THE US AND SO FROM NORTH TO SOUTH, EAST TO WEST, WE'RE VERY DIFFERENT. AND THOSE NEEDS ARE VERY DIFFERENT. SO PART OF OUR JOB IS TO HELP YOU ALL, UM, COME TOGETHER AROUND THOSE ISSUES THAT ARE SIMILAR AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO WORK TOGETHER ON THOSE ISSUES THAT ARE DIFFERENT. WE WANT YOU TO FEEL CONFIDENT AT THE END OF THE DAY ABOUT THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE GIVING TO MR. WASH, UH, AS HE DEVELOPS THE BUDGET IN THE COMING DAYS. AND THEN, UM, MOST IMPORTANTLY, ESTABLISH THE BEGINNINGS AND CONTINUATION OF A GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP AMONG YOU ALL AS Y'ALL WORK TOGETHER FOR THE CITY AND OUR COMMUNITY. SO THOSE ARE OUR DESIRED, DESIRED OUTCOMES, AND I WANNA YOU TO KEEP THOSE IN MIND AS WE GO THROUGHOUT THE DAY, PARTICULARLY AS WE LOOK, UM, WHEN LINDA'S GONNA BE DOING HER SESSION IN JUST A MINUTE ABOUT HOW WE'RE GONNA WORK TOGETHER THROUGHOUT THE DAY. WE'VE ALREADY HAD THE OPENING REMARKS BY THE MAYOR AND THE CITY MANAGER. UH, THIS IS WHAT WE CALL SETTING THE STAGE WHERE I REVIEW THE, UM, AGENDA, MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THE PROCESS FOR THE DAY, AND THEN WE'LL JUST MOVE INTO THE, UH, TEAM BUILDING EXERCISE. UH, SO IN JUST [00:15:01] A FEW MINUTES, WE'RE GONNA, UM, DO WHAT'S CALLED REACHING FOR HIGHER GROUND. WHAT IS THE BEST WAY FOR US TO WORK TOGETHER? WE'LL BE STEPPING THROUGH THESE QUESTIONS WITH YOU ALL, AND LINDA WILL BE FACILITATING THAT. WE'LL BE USING THE STICKY WALL. HOW MANY OF Y'ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE STICKY WALL? SO, UM, IT BASICALLY, UH, SERVE HELPS US TO, UH, GET YOUR COMMENTS AND MOVE THEM AROUND. IT'S JUST AN EASY WAY TO FACILITATE. SO YOU'LL SEE HOW THAT WORKS IN, IN, UM, PRACTICE IN JUST A FEW MINUTES. WE'LL HAVE A BREAK AT 10 45. I'M GONNA DO MY BEST TO KEEP TO THE SCHEDULE. AS YOU KNOW, WE STARTED A FEW MINUTES LATE. SO, UM, I THINK I'M GONNA FOREGO WHAT I HAD ASKED YOU TO SHARE A STORY, 'CAUSE THAT WAS GONNA BE ABOUT 20 MINUTES, BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO KEEP THAT STORY ON YOUR MIND AND WEAVE IT AS WE GO THROUGHOUT THE SESSION, IF THAT HELPS EXPLAIN YOUR POINT. I REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO THAT. AND I'M SORRY THAT WE JUST STARTED LATE. I, I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER THAN, THAN HAVING TO START RIGHT AT NINE. SO THAT'S, UM, ONE OF MY PROBLEMS THAT WE'LL GET THROUGH IT, UM, MINIMIZING THE BREAKS TO 10 MINUTES BECAUSE I REALLY WANNA TRY AND GET YOU OUT OF HERE BY FOUR 30. WE DO HAVE THE SPACE UNTIL FIVE, SO, UM, IF WE NEED TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS, WE WILL. BUT AS WE JUST SAID, IT'S THE LONGEST DAY OF THE YEAR, SO IF WE CAN KEEP THE MEETING AS SHORT AS POSSIBLE, I THINK IT'LL BE GOOD OR AS CONCISE AS POSSIBLE, NOT TO DIMINISH THE QUALITY OF IT AT ALL. AND THEN AFTER THE BREAK, WE'LL BE JUST STEPPING THROUGH EACH OF THE POLICY, UH, THE BUDGET POLICY ISSUES, STARTING WITH THE FINANCIAL POLICIES, GOING INTO PROPERTY TAX RELIEF, GOING INTO STREET SIDEWALKS AND TRANSPORTATION. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A LUNCH BREAK ABOUT 1230, EXCUSE ME, BECAUSE LUNCH IS ON SITE, WE'RE GONNA MINIMIZE IT TO 45 MINUTES. SO WE REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO MAKE THE MOST OF THAT 45 MINUTES, GET YOUR CALLS OUT OF THE WAY SO THAT YOU CAN COME BACK AND BE FULLY ENGAGED FOR AFTER, FOR THE AFTERNOON SESSION. FOLLOWING LUNCH, WE'LL GO INTO STRONG FAMILIES AND CHILDREN, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, PUBLIC SAFETY POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND THEN WE'LL TAKE A BREAK AT 2 45. AFTER THE BREAK AT 2 45, WE'LL COME BACK AND WE'LL GO OVER, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY, FIRE AND CIVILIAN COMPENSATION. AND THEN AT 3 25 WE'LL TRANSITION INTO GETTING DOWN TO THE NITTY GRITTY ABOUT YOUR POLICY ISSUES AND YOUR PRIORITIZATION. SO, UM, I'LL POINT OUT THAT AT 3 25 WE'RE GONNA DO, IT'S CALLED AN EIGHT POINTS EXERCISE. EACH OF THE EIGHT TOPICS ARE GONNA BE PRESENTED, AND I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO PICK YOUR NUMBER ONE. SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE GO THROUGHOUT THE DAY. I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO PICK YOUR NUMBER ONE, AND THEN AFTER WE DO AN EXERCISE AROUND THAT, I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO, UM, SPEND SOME TIME AND EXPLAIN TO US YOUR TOP THREE. SO I'M NOT GONNA ASK YOU TO RANK YOUR TOP THREE, I'M JUST GONNA ASK YOU TO LET US KNOW WHAT YOUR NUMBER ONE IS, AND THEN YOU'LL GET TO SHARE FROM YOUR, UH, SEAT EACH OF YOUR THREE POLICY AREAS AND WHY THOSE ARE IMPORTANT TO YOU. AND THEN AT FOUR O'CLOCK WE'LL WRAP UP AND DO A QUICK REFLECTION AND GO OVER THE PRIORITIES, AND THEN WE'LL LET THE MAYOR SEE THE CLOSING REMARKS FOR THE DAY. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE WAY WE'RE STEPPING THROUGH THE AGENDA TO THIS MORNING AND THIS AFTERNOON? EVERYBODY'S GOOD? OKAY. UM, AS I SAID, WE'LL BE REVIEWING THE EIGHT ISSUES TODAY. WE'RE GONNA TRY AND GET DONE BY FOUR 30. UM, THE MOST IMPORTANT PART ABOUT MY JOB IS TO KEEP YOU ALL ON TASK, TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO BE CONCISE. SO THERE MAY BE POINTS WHERE I LITERALLY SAY, I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO WRAP IT UP. YOU GET 20 SECONDS. SO IF YOU START TO GO ON LONG, I'M GONNA HAVE TO WRAP IT UP BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S A VERY TIGHT AGENDA. YOU GUYS HAVE HAD ABOUT A WEEK TO DIGEST THE INFORMATION. SO I'M PRESUMING THAT YOU GUYS CAN BE PRETTY CONCISE AND FIGURE OUT, UM, WHAT NEEDS TO BE SAID. IF, UM, ONE OF THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS SAYS SOMETHING THAT YOU AGREE WITH, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO SAY I AGREE WITH THAT, AND NOT NECESSARILY ELABORATE ON IT SO THAT WE CAN JUST CAPTURE THAT YOU AGREED WITH IT AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON. UM, THANK YOU. RIGHT ON CUE , UM, THE GROUND RULES. THIS IS, UH, THESE ARE OUR SUGGESTED OPERATING, UM, UH, GUIDELINES SO THAT WE CAN GET THROUGH THE DAY AND AGAIN, KEEP YOU ON TRACK, UH, LISTEN TO UNDERSTAND. THIS IS TO ME THE MOST IMPORTANT BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, NORTH, SOUTH, EAST TO WEST, OUR CITY'S DIFFERENT. AND THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY HEAR, YOU KNOW, AT SOME TIME, AND IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY REVOLVE AROUND ONE PARTICULAR ISSUE THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE A VOTE ON. SO I REALLY WANT YOU TO LISTEN TO UNDERSTAND AND REALLY, UH, GATHER WHAT THE OTHER COUNCIL PEOPLE HAVE TO SHARE, AGREE TO DISAGREE, UH, WHY WE WOULD, THE IDEA WOULD BE TO GET CONSENSUS. WE UNDERSTAND THAT EVERYBODY'S NOT GONNA AGREE WITH EACH OTHER, SO LET'S JUST AGREE TO DISAGREE. LINDA'S GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT AS SHE GOES THROUGH THIS NEXT, UH, EXERCISE ABOUT WORKING TOGETHER. AND I THINK EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS, AGREE TO DISAGREE, ASK HER QUESTION. WE HAVE THREE NEW MEMBERS, UM, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY'LL ONLY BE THE ONES WITH QUESTIONS. IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, PLEASE ASK IT, DON'T HESITATE. SOMEBODY ELSE IN THE ROOM PROBABLY HAS THE SAME QUESTION. AND THE MORE THAT WE CAN DELVE INTO THOSE QUESTIONS AND GET YOU ANSWERS, THE MORE INFORMED YOU'LL BE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THE DECISIONS YOU NEED TO MAKE FOR YOUR DISTRICT. AND THEN, OF COURSE, SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONE. UM, THERE [00:20:01] IS ANOTHER ROOM I BELIEVE THAT IS DEDICATED FOR DOING, TAKING CALLS IF NEEDED. UM, YES. RIGHT? SO IF YOU NEED TO TAKE A CALL, YOU CAN STEP OUT AND SOMEBODY CAN SHOW YOU WHERE THAT IS, OR IN THE HALLWAY, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. BUT, UH, WE WOULD REALLY LIKE FOR YOU TO BE PRESENT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. SO, UM, SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES AS MUCH AS YOU CAN. IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING GOING ON, WE COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND. IS EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THESE? ANY OBJECTIONS? OKAY, GOOD DEAL. THANK YOU. SO AT THIS POINT, UM, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO LINDA SO THAT WE CAN GET BACK ON TRACK AND ON IN TERMS OF TIME. AND SHE'S GONNA DO, UH, EXERCISE WITH YOU ALL. EXCUSE ME. NO, YOU NEED IT. I'M GONNA MOVE IT OVER HERE. OH, SORRY. OKAY. JUST A LITTLE GOOD MORNING. IT'S NICE TO SEE EVERYBODY HERE TODAY. UH, IT'S A REAL PLEASURE TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS TODAY AND REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR INVITING US TO, TO DO THIS. YEAH. OKAY. WE'RE NOT USED TO WORKING WITH MEDIA PRESENCE . WE HAVE TO LIKE MARK THE SPOT FOR WHERE WE'RE PUTTING THINGS. WE'RE USUALLY STRUGGLING TO GET MEDIA PRESENCE, SO YEAH, I DIDN'T MEAN THE, YEAH, THE SOCIAL, THE MEDIA. MEDIA. I'M AT THE, YEAH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE REAL MEDIA. YES. GOOD. NO, I DON'T MEAN IT THAT WAY. AUDIO. SO WHAT WE'D LIKE TO START WITH IS TO, UM, IS TO ASK YOU TO THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU WANT TO ACCOMPLISH WITH TODAY. AND, AND WE'D LIKE FOR YOU TO KEEP THAT RELATIVELY BRIEF. SONYA'S GONNA WRITE THOSE DOWN, AND WE'RE JUST GONNA GO AROUND THE CIRCLE AND ASK YOU TO SAY WHAT, WHAT YOU WANNA ACCOMPLISH WITH TODAY. JUST ONE SENTENCE. SO THINK ABOUT IT. WHO WOULD LIKE TO START? START? OKAY. I'D LIKE US TO BE ABLE TO RESPECTFULLY REACH CONSENSUS. CAN YOU TURN YOUR MIC YOU YOUR BUTTON TO TALK? YEAH. SO THE BUTTON . OKAY. OKAY, GO AHEAD. I'D LIKE US TO, UH, RESPECTFULLY REACH CONSENSUS TODAY ON OUR PRIORITY BUDGET ISSUES. OKAY. AND, UM, I EMPHASIZE RESPECTFULLY AND CONSENSUS. YES, I'LL SAY THAT. OKAY, GREAT. SO SET BUDGET PRIORITIES. SET BUDGET PRIORITIES. OKAY. YEAH, I THINK I'D JUST LIKE TO BE ABLE TO HEAR WHAT THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS THINK ARE THE PRIORITIES THAT WE SHOULD BE AIMING TOWARD TO SEE HOW THEY BLEND WITH, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M THINKING TOO. OKAY. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. TO HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF EACH OTHER'S IDEAS, UH, DISTRICTS AND THE WAY THAT WE CAN COLLABORATIVELY MAKE SAN ANTONIO A BETTER PLACE. GREAT. THANK YOU. WHAT WAS THAT ONE? REAL FAST. SHE WANTS TO UNDERSTAND, UH, HOW, WHAT THE PERSPECTIVES ARE FROM DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND TO SEE WORK, FIGURE OUT HOW THEY CAN WORK COLLABORATIVELY. COLLABORATIVELY. OKAY. OKAY. I'M SORRY. THANK YOU, ANNA. I WANNA LEARN FROM, I WANNA LEARN FROM, UH, HEARING THE, MY COLLEAGUES' PERSPECTIVES ON THE BUDGET. UM, BUT SPECIFICALLY ABOUT HOW EACH OF THE THINGS THAT WE, EACH BUDGET ITEM THAT WE TALK ABOUT MAKES LIFE BETTER FOR EACH OF OUR INDIVIDUAL, UH, RESIDENTS. OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, I'D UNLIKE, HANG ON ONE SECOND. LEMME LEMME LET SONYA CATCH UP. I'M GOOD. OKAY. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. UM, I'D LIKE TO, UM, BOTH UNDERSTAND AND SHARE THE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES OF OUR DISTRICTS AND, AND THE NEEDS THAT, UH, THAT DIFFERENT PARTS OF OUR CITIES HAVE. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO WALK OUTTA HERE WITH, UM, A SENSE OF A UNIFIED VISION AND DIRECTION FOR THE CITY AMONG OUR 10 DISTRICTS, AS WELL AS A SENSE OF, UH, BUILDING A TEAM TRUST, UH, TOGETHER IN HOW WE WORK, UH, SINCE THIS IS REALLY OUR FIRST YEAH. SLAVES ROLLED UP WORK SECTION TOGETHER. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU GET THAT? I'M GONNA PUT IT ON THERE. YEAH. YEAH. I HAD LIKE TO ACCOMP. WHAT I'D LIKE TO ACCOMPLISH TODAY IS TO SET OUR BUDGET PRIORITIES AND GIVE DIRECTION TO THE CITY MANAGER. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO CHALLENGE ASSUMPTIONS, UH, HAVE, FEEL COMFORTABLE IN BEING BOLD IN HELPING MY COLLEAGUES, UM, AND MYSELF BRING HOME WINS TO MY CONSTITUENTS AND THEIR CONSTITUENTS. OKAY. THANK YOU. SORRY. HANG ON. WHAT DO YOU ABOUT BEING BOLD, BRINGING AND BRINGING IT, UH, UH, THANKS TO THEIR CONSTITUENTS THING. WELL, IT'S NOT REALLY, WHAT DID YOU SAY ABOUT CONSTITUENTS? BRINGING, BRINGING, BRINGING HOME WINS. BRINGING HOME, BRINGING HOME WINS. YEAH. THAT'S OKAY. SORRY. THANK YOU. . GO AHEAD. YES. [00:25:01] OKAY. COUNCILMAN PERRY. OKAY. UM, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MEETING OUR NEIGHBOR'S EXPECTATION OKAY. ACROSS THE CITY. OKAY. UM, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S NOT OUR MONEY ON THE COUNCIL, IT'S THEIR MONEY THAT THEY ARE PAYING IN YEAH. AS PART OF THE TAXES RIGHT. TO SUPPORT THEM. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO VALUE AND UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER'S DIVERSITY OF EXPERIENCE SO THAT WE COULD BE MORE MEANINGFUL IN THE, UH, BUDGETING PROCESS. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. DID YOU GET IT? MM-HMM. I UNDERSTAND. DIVERSITY OF EXPERIENCE. OH YEAH. THAT'S IT. AND THEN, AND NOW I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO THINK ABOUT WHAT YOUR CONCERNS ARE. WHAT CONCERNS DO YOU HAVE ABOUT TODAY? AND WE'LL JUST GO BACK THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION. ADRIANA, YOU WANNA START? COUNCIL AND GARCIA? I'M ONE OF THE FRESHMEN, UH, IN THE GROUP, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I MAKE A, UH, MEANINGFUL SUGGESTIONS WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO ME. OKAY. OKAY. WHAT WAS HER CONCERN? MEANINGFUL. SHE WANTS TO BE SURE TO MAKE MEANINGFUL SUGGESTIONS, MEANINGFUL AND REALISTIC SUGGESTIONS, MEANINGFUL AND REALISTIC SUGGESTIONS. ARE YOU CONCERNED THAT YOUR COMMENTS WILL NOT BE? YES. THAT'S BECAUSE SHE'S NEW. I'M, I'M WITH A FRESHMAN. OKAY. SO I'M TRYING TO TAKE THIS ALL IN AND I'VE HAD SOME EXPERIENCE THAT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S, UH, NOTHING THAT I SAY THAT ISN'T YEAH, SURE. TOO. UNATTAINABLE . SURE. THANK YOU. OKAY. ATTAINABLE. ARE THEY WAITING FOR ME? REALISTIC? YEAH. OH, I THOUGHT YOU WERE . I THOUGHT YOU WERE SOME. THERE WAS. OKAY, NEVERMIND. SORRY. OKAY. COUNCILMAN PERRY, THIS IS, THIS IS ACTUALLY A TOUGH ONE. UM, ON THE CONCERNS, UM, AGAIN, IT'S, UH, THAT WE MEET THE EXPECTATIONS OF, OF, UH, OUR RESIDENTS AND THAT WE WISELY PUT THE BUDGET AND THE PRIORITIES THAT PEOPLE EXPECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'M CONCERNED THAT THERE ARE UNLIMITED NEEDS, BUT VERY LIMITED RESOURCES AND THAT, UH, COMING OUT OF THIS ENTIRE PROCESS, PEOPLE WE'LL HAVE A TOUGH TIME UNDERSTANDING WHY WE PICKED SOME AND NOT OTHERS. YEAH. PEOPLE WILL HAVE A TOUGH TIME. MM-HMM. , I GOT IT. OKAY. I AGREE WITH, UM, WITH HIS CONCERNS AS WELL AS MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO DIG INTO EVERYTHING. OKAY. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD. I'M CONCERNED THAT THE REALITIES OF OUR OLD AND NEW BUDGETARY CONSTRAINTS HAVE NOT BEEN WELL COMMUNICATED TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WE SERVED. MM-HMM. AND THEIR EXPECTATIONS WILL BE DIFFERENT FROM THE REALITY THAT WE'RE GRAPPLING WITH. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. DO YOU ADD SOMETHING ELSE? NO, I'M CONCERNED WITH THE STATUS QUO WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, ISSUES, SOME ISSUES THAT, THAT HAVE NO FINISH LINE, BUT OTHERS THAT THAT CAN BE MEASURED AND CAN AND BE, CAN BE COMMUNICATED BACK TO OUR CITY AS FAR AS HOW WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS TO, TO RESOLVE THOSE ISSUES. OKAY. THANK YOU. AT THIS POINT, I WANNA JUST SAY THAT IF WE CAPTURE ANYTHING THAT IS NOT ACCURATE TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, PLEASE STOP US BECAUSE THIS IS OUR RECORD THAT WE'RE GONNA BE OPERATING FROM WHEN WE DOCUMENT THIS SESSION. GO AHEAD. LEMME PUT IT UP. GO AHEAD. I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT MY COLLEAGUES BEFORE ME SAID. UH, BUT AN ADDITIONAL CONCERN IS THAT MOST OF OUR BUDGET IS ALREADY SET. IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE GONNA CUT POLICE FORCE IN HALF, OR FIREFIGHTERS ARE DOUBLE IT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. [00:30:01] THE REST OF OUR REVENUE'S RESTRICTED. UM, SO I AM AFRAID OR WORRIED THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TOOLS FINANCIALLY, UH, TODAY TO ACTUALLY MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE FROM A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE FROM LAST YEAR. YEAH. OKAY. GO AHEAD. OKAY. YES, MA'AM. MY CONCERN IS THE FACT THAT WE'RE GONNA LEAVE TOO MANY OF OUR RESIDENTS BEHIND AND PLACES THAT HAVE BEEN OVERLOOKED WILL CONTINUE TO BE OVERLOOKED. UM, AND THAT THE FINANCIAL BUDGET THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW TRULY WILL NOT SPEAK TO THE HEART OF THE COUNCIL AND HOW WE LOOK TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY. OKAY. THANK YOU, COUNCIL. COURAGE. MY CONCERN HAS BEEN SINCE EVEN WALKING IN HERE TODAY, THAT, THAT THIS ONE SESSION ISN'T REALLY ENOUGH FOR ALL OF US TO COLLECTIVELY ABSORB WHAT WE ARE GONNA BE FACING AND HOW WE CAN GO BACK TO OUR DISTRICTS AND HELP THEM UNDERSTAND THAT, AND THEN COME BACK AND, UH, VOTE ON A BUDGET. I, I JUST AM CONCERNED THAT THIS ISN'T ENOUGH TIME TO ABSORB EVERYTHING WE NEED TO ABSORB, TO SHARE BACK AND FORTH WITH ONE ANOTHER, TO COME UP WITH A, A COMPREHENSIVE PROGRAM. AND I THINK WE'RE ALL, ALL CAN BUY INTO. I HOPE I'M WRONG. THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING NEW TO ADD. DO MY, YOUR MICROPHONE. OH, I'M SORRY. JUST THAT, UH, I, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING NEW TO ADD, I THINK. OKAY. THE SAME AS MY COLLEAGUES. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. UH, SIMILARLY, UM, IT'S MAYBE NOT NEW, BUT I, I DO HAVE A CONCERN THAT, UH, MANY OF THE NEEDS OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS WILL NOT BE MET IN THE INTEREST OF COMPROMISE DUE TO THE, UH, UNLIMITED OR RESOURCE, I'M SORRY. WISH IT WAS UNLIMITED RESOURCES, UNLIMITED NEED AND UNLIMITED RESOURCES. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AS YOU, AS YOU REFLECT ON WHAT THEY'VE, WHAT PEOPLE HAVE SAID ABOUT WHAT THEY WANNA ACCOMPLISH TODAY AND WHAT CONCERNS ARE, WHAT STANDS OUT FOR YOU FROM THIS, FROM WHAT'S BEEN SAID? DO YOU WANT ME TO CHART THIS? YEAH, NO, YOU JUST, YOU NEED TO PUT THAT ON THERE. WE CAN MOVE IT OUTTA THE WAY THAT WE ALL WANT THE BEST FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. YEAH. BUT HOW DO YOU TRULY GET THE BEST OUT OF THINGS THAT ARE LIMITED TO WHAT YOU CAN AND CANNOT DO? HOW DO YOU TRULY PUT FORTH YOUR HEART INTO THIS SITUATION KNOWING THAT YOU HAVE COMMUNITIES THAT NEED THE UTMOST CARE AND RESPECT, BUT YOU ONLY HAVE A LIMITED WINDOW TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S DONE. YEAH. OKAY. OTHER THOUGHTS? WHAT STANDS OUT TO ME IS, UM, HOW WE COMMUNICATE OUR BUDGET TO OUR, OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR NEIGHBORS. HOW ARE WE GOING TO COMMUNICATE THAT TO THEM? YEAH. AND THE REASONS WHY. UM, THAT'S SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT THAT STOOD OUT. YEAH. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE THAT STOOD OUT FOR YOU? I THINK THAT, UH, IT SHOWS, WE'RE ALL CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAME ISSUES COLLECTIVELY AS A COUNCIL AS FAR AS THE BUDGET GOES WORKING TOGETHER, BUT I THINK ALL OF US ALSO REALIZE WE HAVE DIFFERENT CONSTITUENCIES AND THE CHALLENGE WE FACE IN HELPING THE CONSTITUENCIES UNDERSTAND THE COLLECTIVE FOR THE CITY. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE ALL NEED TO WORK ON. YEAH. MOVING THEM FROM THEIR OWN PERSONAL THING TO A LARGER PICTURE. YEAH. ANYTHING ELSE THAT STANDS OUT FOR YOU? WHAT EXCITES YOU ABOUT THIS, ABOUT THESE THINGS THAT Y'ALL HAVE SAID? MM-HMM. FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A LONG TIME, I THINK WE'VE GOT A CITY COUNCIL WHO IS, UH, REALLY LOOKING AT ONE GOAL, AND THAT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY IS LOOKED AT NOT AS 10 INDIVIDUAL PIECES, BUT AS ONE ORGANISM THAT IS DEPENDENT UPON EACH PIECE. OKAY. SO THERE'S MORE OF A HOLISTIC LOOK AT THINGS. YEAH. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE THAT EXCITES YOU? YES, MA'AM. SO, I, I'M EXCITED TO GET TO WORK AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN ELECTED TO DO. I THINK THERE HAS BEEN, UM, UH, JUST BECAUSE WE ARE IN CAMPAIGN MODE PRETTY MUCH FROM FEBRUARY UNTIL TODAY, UH, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING TO WORK TO DO THE, WHAT WE'VE BEEN ELECTED TO DO. AND [00:35:01] THAT IS, UM, MAKE A BUDGET FOR OUR CITY, UH, WHERE PEOPLE, UH, FEEL LIKE WE ARE. UM, WE RESPONDED TO THE REQUEST THAT WE HEARD, UH, OUT ON THE CAMPAIGN, UH, BUT ALSO JUST THAT THEY GET IMPLEMENTED IN A TIMELY MANNER. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. YEAH, I JUST WANT TO ADD TO THAT, UM, THIS IS PROBABLY THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT WE DO AS A COUNCIL IS SET THE BUDGET AND THEN OPERATE TO THE BUDGET THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER. SO THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT'S EXCITING TO ME, IS THIS IS WHERE THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD, OUR MOST IMPORTANT JOB AS A CITY COUNCIL PERSON. SURE. OKAY. YES, SIR. I'M EXCITED THAT THIS IS, UM, NOW TWO YEARS AFTER, UM, THE CITY COUNCIL FIRST ADOPTED, UH, EQUITY PRINCIPLES IN A BUDGET. UM, AND SO WE ARE NOW ENTERING A PHASE OF NEW ELECTED OFFICIALS BEING BROUGHT INTO THAT SHARED VALUE. AND SO THIS WILL BE A TESTAMENT AS TO WHETHER OR NOT EQUITY-BASED BUDGETING CAN SURVIVE POLITICAL SEASONS. AND I'M VERY CONFIDENT THAT IT WILL, BUT THIS WOULD BE THE COUNCIL THAT BEST DEMONSTRATES WHETHER THAT IS A, UH, A LONG-TERM INITIATIVE FOR THE CITY TO FINALLY MAKE DIFFERENCES ON GENERATIONAL ISSUES. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'M EXCITED BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IN A LONG TIME THAT OUR BUDGET'S GOING TO BE DONE WITH A, A REPRESENTATION OF COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT REFLECTS THE TRUE POPULATION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO . OKAY. GOOD. YES. I'M EX I'M EXCITED THAT OUR FACILITATORS ALSO REPRESENT THE MAJORITY POPULATION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. THANK YOU. WOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO AS YOU THINK ABOUT THESE THINGS THEN, WHAT DIFFICULTIES DO, DOES A GROUP LIKE THIS FACE USUALLY FACE? NOT THAT YOU ALL DON'T KNOW, YOU'VE MENTIONED THEM, BUT WHAT, WHAT DIFFICULTIES DO YOU THIS GROUP MIGHT FACE? LINDA? OH, SORRY. I THINK THE DIFFICULTY WE ALL FACE IS THAT WE HAVE ONE BUDGET , AND WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT PRIORITIES, AND WE'RE ALL TRYING TO DRAW FROM THAT SAME SOURCE OF FUNDING FOR THOSE PRIORITIES. AND IT'S VERY CHALLENGING TO, TO FIND THAT COMMON GROUND ON THOSE ISSUES. UH, AND I THINK WE JUST NEED TO LEARN TO COLLABORATE MORE, BE WILLING TO GIVE AND BE WILLING TO, YOU KNOW, SHARE, UH, AND, UH, SOMETIMES SACRIFICE. YEAH. I THINK WE CAN OVERSIMPLIFY COMPLEX ISSUES AS WELL AS OVER COMPLICATE SIMPLE ISSUES. ? YEAH. YES, MA'AM. UM, I THINK ONE OF THE DIFFICULTIES IN DEVELOPING THE BUDGET AND AND YEAR ROUND IN THE WORK THAT WE DO IS THAT OUR CITY IS STILL VERY DISPARATE, UH, IN MANY WAYS. NOT JUST, UH, ECONOMIC SEGREGATION, BUT, UH, THINGS LIKE INFRASTRUCTURE THERE. OUR CITY IS JUST VASTLY DIFFERENT FROM ONE PARTS OF TOWN, OR EVEN ONE PART OF THE SAME DISTRICT TO ANOTHER. AND IT'S HARD TO APPLY THE SAME, UH, TOOLS TO EVERYBODY. YEAH. YEAH. ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. WHEN WE THINK, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE REASONS WE, WE WANTED TO DO THIS PARTICULAR ACTIVITY, AND I'LL GO THROUGH THE STEPS FOR IT IN A MINUTE, IS THE, IS TO, UH, HELP YOU ALL TO UNIFY, TO GET, TO BEGIN TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE DIFFICULTIES THAT YOU'VE SAID YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU WERE GONNA FACE, AND THAT, UH, TO WORK MORE IN, IN UNANIMITY. AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S OUR INTENTION FOR DOING THIS PARTICULAR ACTIVITY. AND WHAT THIS ACTIVITY IS CALLED, IS CALLED REACHING FOR HIGHER GROUND. AND WHEN I SAY REACHING FOR HIGHER GROUND, WHAT, WHAT IS THAT, UH, EVOKED FOR YOU? WHAT COMES TO YOUR MIND AS WE SAY THAT? MM-HMM. OUR INAUGURATION, THAT'S THE SONG THAT WE HEARD. OKAY. UH, AFTER WE TOOK OUR OATH OF OFFICE. OH. OH, REALLY? WAS THAT ON PURPOSE? JULIE PEPPER'S FAN. STEVIE WANTS, WHO KNOWS. GOOD. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? YES. I THINK IT MEANS REACHING BEYOND OUR OURSELVES AND WHAT WE WANT FOR MAYBE OURSELVES OR OUR DISTRICT. BUT HIGHER GROUND IS THE COMMONALITY OF REACHING TOGETHER ON CONSENSUS AS A CITY. OKAY. AS A CITY COUNCIL. YEAH. GOOD. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. . YES, MA'AM. I THINK NOT JUST LOOKING AT WHAT'S BROKEN OR WHAT WE DON'T HAVE, BUT WHAT CAN WE BE, WHAT IS OUR BEYOND WHAT IS OUR POTENTIAL AND GOING TOWARDS THAT. YEAH. GREAT. THANK YOU. OKAY. YEAH. IT'S ALSO, IT, IT, IT'S, UH, BASING YOUR WORK TOGETHER ON YOUR, ON YOUR HIGHEST ASPIRATIONS. THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO THINK ABOUT AND TO BE VIGILANT TO NOT LET OUR FEARS GET THE BEST OF US. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, [00:40:01] CONCERN ABOUT REPRESENTING YOUR CONSTITUENTS IN A APPROPRIATE MANNER, AND SOMETIMES THAT IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR YOU TO DO THINGS BECAUSE YOU HAVE DIFFERENT CONSTITUENTS WITHIN YOUR DISTRICTS, AS WELL AS IF YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THE WHOLE, THEN YOU CAN'T THINK ABOUT JUST YOUR DISTRICT CONSTITUENTS. YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT PEOPLE ACROSS THE CITY. AND THOSE THINGS MAKE IT HARD. AND IT'S, IT'S ALSO ABOUT MAKING A COMMITMENT TO SHAPE OUR SHARED FUTURE. AND I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF THE KIND OF THING YOU CUT THEM OUT. YEAH. GO AHEAD WITH THE OTHER SIDE FIRST THOUGH. THIS, THIS SIDE UP. THIS IS A, THESE ARE GUIDELINES THAT WERE DEVELOPED THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND, UH, WE JUST, I'M JUST USING IT AS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT, OF THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE, THAT WE'RE HOPING TO GET FROM YOU TODAY. UH, THIS ONE IS A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, REFINED THAN WHAT WE'LL PROBABLY END UP WITH TODAY, BECAUSE THE GROUP, UH, DID THE WORKSHOP AND THEN THEY DID SOME ADDITIONAL WORK ON IT. BUT WHAT WE'RE LOOK, WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS, ARE THE, THESE KINDS OF GUIDELINES WERE, THAT WERE DEVELOPED FOR CIVILITY IN THE UNITED METHODIST CHURCH IN 1998. AND THERE ARE THREE GUIDELINES. ONE IS TO CAREFULLY REPRESENT THE VIEWS OF THOSE WITH WHOM WE ARE IN DISAGREEMENT, TO BE CAREFUL IN DEFINING TERMS, AVOIDING NEEDLESS USE OF USE OF INFLAMMATORY WORDS, AND TO BE OPEN TO CHANGE IN ONE'S OWN POSITION AND PATIENT WITH THE PROCESS OF CHANGE IN THE THINKING AND BEHAVIOR OF OTHERS. THIS IS THE SORT OF THING WE'RE LOOKING NOT PRECISELY THIS. 'CAUSE YOURS WILL BE DIFFERENT. YOU'RE GONNA BE WORKING ON DIFFERENT KINDS OF THINGS. IS THIS THE SORT OF THING THAT YOU ALL WOULD BE WILLING TO SUPPORT? OKAY. UM, THE BACKSIDE OF THIS HAS, UH, A LIST OF QUESTIONS THAT WE'RE GONNA ASK YOU THAT, UH, TO RES RESPOND TO. IF YOU JUST WRITE YOUR THOUGHTS HERE. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT HOW WE SHOULD BEST WORK TOGETHER, WHAT'S YOUR HIGHEST ASPIRATION FOR WORKING TOGETHER? AND JUST JOT DOWN SOME THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT. AND THEN WHAT ARE YOUR, WHAT ARE THE VALUES OR PRINCIPLES THAT WILL GUIDE US TOWARD MAKING OUR HIGHEST ASPIRATIONS COME TRUE? THINGS LIKE MUTUAL RESPECT, COMPASSION, WHATEVER THOSE VALUES HAPPEN TO BE. AND THEN THIRDLY IS WHAT ARE THE BEHAVIORS THAT FOLLOW FROM THESE PRINCIPLES? LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, ALLOWING DESCENDING VOICES TO BE HEARD. SO IF, IF YOU'LL FILL THIS OUT REAL, JUST TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO DO THAT. AND SOME CATEGORIES TO CONSIDER OUR PARTICIPATION, THE USE OF INFORMATION, DECISION MAKING, CONFIDENTIALITY, THE USE OF TIMES, ROLES IN THE GROUP, DIFFERENT KINDS OF, WHATEVER COMES TO YOUR MIND ABOUT THIS. WRITE AT LEAST THREE OR FOUR IDEAS FOR EACH ONE. IF YOU CAN GET SIX, THAT'S EVEN BETTER. I'M JUST GONNA ASK TO TALK ABOUT THESE TWO. THIS IS, WE'RE [00:45:05] TAKE THEM OFF THE RESTROOM, DO ANYTHING. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. LET ME ASK YOU TO JUST SHARE WITH ME A LITTLE BIT, A FEW OF YOU, WHAT YOU HAD AS YOUR HIGHEST ASPIRATIONS. WHAT WERE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU LISTED AS A HIGHEST ASPIRATION? MM-HMM. . UM, EACH OF US ACHIEVING OUR TOP PRIORITIES FOR OUR, OUR DISTRICTS. OKAY. UM, I PUT COLLECTIVELY, UM, UNDERSTANDING AND UNITED IN A PROGRESSIVE MOTION TOWARDS THE BETTERMENT OF SAN ANTONIO. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE ALL AGREE 100% . OKAY. OKAY. HOW ABOUT, UH, FOR YOUR, FOR WHAT YOU HAD FOR THE VALUES THAT YOU WANT TO, THE VALUES OR PRINCIPLES THAT WILL GUIDE US TOWARD MAKING THE HIGHEST ASPIRATIONS COME TRUE? I SAID, UM, SOME VALUES AND PRINCIPLES. RESPECT, COLLABORATIVE SPIRIT AND VULNERABILITY. OKAY. WHAT ELSE ARE ANYBODY ELSE WANNA SHARE? THE VALUES THAT THEY THOUGHT WERE IMPORTANT? UNDERSTANDING, I'M SORRY. UNDERSTANDING. OKAY. UM, I THINK A SPIRIT OF EQUITY, UH, IN SERVING OUR, OUR COMMUNITY. AND, UM, IF YOU'LL ALLOW ME, I THINK WE'VE USED THAT WORD A LOT AND MAYBE WE ALL JUST HAVE A DIFFERENT UNDERSTANDING OF, OF WHAT IT MEANS. SO MAYBE HAVE CLARITY ON THAT. YEAH. OKAY. SO HAVE SOME CLARITY ON THAT. OKAY. OKAY. YES, MA'AM. I HAVE, UM, UNDERSTANDING, COLLABORATION, CONSENSUS, COMPASSION, DIVERSITY AND TRUST. OKAY. THANK YOU. I WROTE TWO WORDS, JUST AUTHENTICITY AND CREATIVITY IN ORDER TO GET US THROUGH THIS PROCESS. OKAY? OKAY. YES, I SAID THAT. UM, THE VALUES SHOULD BE RESPECT FOR WHERE OTHERS ARE COMING FROM, RESPECT FOR THE IDEAS AND THOUGHTFULNESS OF OTHERS. OPEN-MINDEDNESS AND A COMMITMENT TO WORK FOR THE COMMON GOOD. OKAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. PUT HONESTY, SINCERITY, AND PROFESSIONALISM. OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU. NOW THE, THIS IS GONNA BE, THE HARD PART IS WHAT ARE THE BEHAVIORS [00:50:01] THAT YOU THINK WOULD REFLECT THOSE VALUES? FOR EXAMPLE, RESPECT. WHAT'S A BEHAVIOR THAT WOULD SHOW RESPECT? MM-HMM. ACTUALLY LISTENING TO UNDERSTAND INSTEAD OF LISTENING TO RESPOND. UM, AND JUST AN OPEN-MINDEDNESS OF THE UNIQUENESS THAT EACH OF US BRING TO THE TABLE. RIGHT? OKAY. SO THIS IS WHERE THE, THE WORK STARTS. OKAY? IS I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO THINK ABOUT THOSE BEHAVIORS AND WRITE THOSE. THINK OF AT LEAST FIVE OR SIX BEHAVIORS IF YOU HAVEN'T WRITTEN THEM DOWN ALREADY. HAVE AT LEAST FIVE OR SIX. AND OF THOSE FIVE OR SIX, PICK THE THREE OR FOUR THAT YOU LIKE THAT PICK FOUR THAT YOU LIKE THE BEST, THE ONES THAT YOU THINK ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT, THE ONES THAT YOU LIKE THE BEST FOR WHATEVER REASON. AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA TAKE THOSE AND YOU'RE GONNA WRITE ONE IDEA PER CARD. YOU, YOU HAVE SOME HALF SHEETS IN FRONT OF YOU, SOME WHITE SHEETS THAT LOOK LIKE THIS. AND, UM, DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT'S ON THE BACKSIDE 'CAUSE THEY'RE JUST RECYCLED STUFF FROM OUR OFFICE. BUT I WANT YOU TO WRITE THREE TO ACTUALLY, I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO DO FOUR IDEAS. AND I WANT YOU TO WRITE THEM ONE IDEA PER CARD. WELL, WHERE'S THE CARD? HERE IT IS ONE IDEA PER CARD. PER PAGE. OKAY. YOU NEED TO WRITE BIG, NOT LIKE THIS. 'CAUSE WHAT YOU NEED TO BE, YOU'RE GONNA NEED TO BE ABLE TO SEE THEM FROM A DISTANCE. YOU HAVE MARKERS ON YOUR, ON YOUR TABLE THERE. AND THEN USE THREE TO SEVEN WORDS PER PAGE. THE REASON I SAY THREE IS BECAUSE IF YOU SAY, UM, COMMUNICATE, THAT DOESN'T TELL US VERY MUCH. YOU NEED AT LEAST THREE WORDS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND NO MORE THAN SEVEN. BECAUSE IF YOU'RE WRITING BIG, THEY PROBABLY WON'T FIT ON THE PAGE. OKAY? SO YOU NEED TO BE RELATIVELY CONCISE. SO IT'S THREE, IT'S FOUR IDEAS ABOUT BEHAVIORS. WHAT BEHAVIORS DO YOU THINK WOULD DEMONSTRATE THOSE VALUES THAT YOU SAID AND TO REACH THAT ASPIRATION? ONE IDEA PER CARD. THREE TO SEVEN WORDS. AND WRITE BIG. AND THE CARDS ARE THERE ON YOUR, THE, THE, THE SHEETS ARE THERE AND THE MARKERS ARE THERE ON YOUR, ON YOUR TABLE. ANOTHER THING ON YOUR TABLE, JUST TO MENTION, 'CAUSE SONYA DIDN'T MENTION, IS THERE ARE SOME STRESS TOYS ON YOUR TABLE. THOSE ARE JUST FOR YOU TO FIDDLE WITH OR WHATEVER YOU WANNA DO WITH THEM. THEY'RE JUST, UH, THERE TO GIVE YOU SOMETHING. SOME PEOPLE LIKE TO FIDGET WHILE THEY'RE LISTENING AND SOMETIMES IT HELPS YOU TO LISTEN AND YOU CAN SWITCH TOYS IF YOU WANT TO. HMM. AND JAB THE YOUNGER GENERATION. YES. WELL, YEAH. BE SURE TO USE THE MARKER. 'CAUSE WE WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE IT IF YOU DO IT WITH JUST A PEN THERE NEXT TO YOUR, WHEN WE'RE, WE'RE, WHEN WE'RE DOING THE NAMING, WHAT I'LL DO IS JUST TAKE THE TAG DOWN. OKAY? I'LL TRADE YOU. I SAW YOUR THING WAS RUNNING OUT OF . THROW IT AWAY IF IT'S NOT ANY GOOD, I'M SORRY. THROW THE BA, THROW THE MARKER AWAY. OH, IT'S THAT ONE RIGHT THERE. IF YOU WANNA GET IT, THE BLACK ONE THAT'S SITTING ON TOP OF HER PAPER. OKAY. OKAY. DO YOU PRESENT QUESTION? [00:55:02] JUST A SHOULD LIKE THIS. I SHOULD HAVE DONE IT EARLIER. OH, THE BEHAVIORS. UH, LET ME KIND OF GO THROUGH THE PROCESS FOR YOU. THE BEHAVIORS THAT YOU'RE WRITING THEN WILL ANSWER THE QUESTION, WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO WORK TOGETHER AS WE PREPARE TO EMBARK ON OUR JOURNEY TOGETHER? OKAY. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. AND SO, UM, WHAT I'LL, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO SEND UP TWO QUESTIONS. TWO, UH, OF YOUR IDEAS, YOUR TWO CLEAREST IDEAS. I'LL GET THOSE FROM EVERYBODY. AND I'M GONNA PUT THEM ON THE WALL AND THEN WE'LL GROUP THEM ACCORDING TO SIMILAR IDEAS. AND THEN, UH, I'LL ASK FOR ANOTHER, THEN WHATEVER YOU HAVE LEFT, AND WE'LL PUT THOSE UP AS WELL. AND GROUP THOSE EITHER WITH ONES THAT ARE THERE, FORM NEW GROUPS. THEN WE'LL TAKE THOSE GROUPINGS AND GIVE IT A NAME THAT ANSWERS THIS QUESTION. CAN YOU ALL SEE THAT? YES. YES. OKAY. THIS IS THE FIRST ONE. OKAY? THEY NEED TO BE THREE WORDS. SO WHAT SHE WANTS THE EXPLANATION OF HOW YOU WANNA ELABORATE ON THAT. UM, JUST ADD A VERB TO IT, OKAY? OKAY. SO SEND ME YOUR TWO CLEAREST IDEAS AND WE'LL PUT THOSE ON THE, ON THE, ON THE CHART UP HERE. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANY? DID YOU, OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOU GONNA READ AND WRITE? DID YOU PUT 'EM UP? MM-HMM. ? YEAH. DO WE GET EVERYBODY'S, UH, NOBODY ELSE? I'LL BRING THEM TO YOU. OH, OKAY. I'LL BRING 'EM TO YOU. YEAH. OKAY. SO, OOPS, WAIT A MINUTE. SORRY. LEMME MOVE THESE OUTTA THE WAY. OKAY. OKAY. SO WE HAVE, WE START WITH, DON'T TAKE TH THINGS PERSONALLY. TRY TO COME TO A CONSENSUS. PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETING. LISTEN TO UNDERSTAND, USE THE TIME WISELY. IF IT AIN'T BROKE. IMPROVE IT. SHARING IDEAS. UH, COULD YOU, WHO'S, WHO IS THIS? COULD YOU ADD IN JUST A LITTLE BIT TO MORE TO MAKE IT CLEARER? THANK YOU. ACCEPT CRITICISM. DON'T THINGS THINK, DON'T TAKE THINGS PERSONALLY. RESPECTFULLY. BOND ON A UNITED FRONT. LISTEN. ONE MOUTH, TWO EARS. LISTEN TO LEARN, RELY ON EACH ONE'S UNIQUE STRENGTH. ATTENTIVENESS WHEN COLLEAGUES SPEAK. AND AUTHENTIC CONVERSATION. JUST TWO THOUGH DIFFERENT, TWO DIFFERENT KIND. OH, OKAY. PROMOTE A TEAM MENTALITY, ADOPT AN OPEN DIALOGUE. DON'T BE A JERK. , NO LECTURES OR PROSELYTIZING. AND TRY TO LEARN, NOT TEACH. OKAY, SO ARE, ARE ALL OF THESE CLEAR? YOU WANNA HAND ME YOUR OTHER ONE THAT YOU JUST THE ONE, JUST THAT, JUST THE ONE WE'LL GET, WE'LL GET THE OTHERS IN A MINUTE, BUT RIGHT NOW WE JUST WANT THESE FIRST TWO SHARING IDEAS. BE CREATIVE. DON'T SHOUT AT IDEAS. DON'T SHOUT DOWN IDEAS. THANK YOU. SO ARE THERE ANY THAT NEED A AN EXPLANATION, THAT NEED CLARIFICATION? OKAY, SO NOW WHAT WE WANNA DO IS WE WANNA FIND PAIRS, WHICH ARE TWO THAT HAVE SIMILAR IDEAS. DID YOU HAVE SOME YOU WANTED TO ADD? GIMME YOUR TWO CLEAREST ONES. OH, THEY'LL ALL GET UP THERE EVENTUALLY, BUT JUST GIMME THE TWO CLEAREST ONES RIGHT NOW. OKAY. UNDERSTANDING THE NEEDS OF OTHER DISTRICTS AND COMMUNICATION WITHOUT COMBATIVENESS. ALRIGHT, SO WHERE, WHERE ARE PAIRS? THINK THE IDEAS HERE THAT ARE, THAT GO FORM A PAIR. TWO LISTENS. THE TWO LISTENS. LISTEN TO UNDERSTAND AND THEN LISTEN IS ALSO SAYS, [01:00:02] OKAY, THEN YOU'VE GOT COMBATIVENESS. AND DON'T BE A JERK. . OH NO, THIS IS NOT, OH YEAH, I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T SEE THE COMBATIVENESS. OKAY, WHAT ELSE? OTHER PAIRS. ANY OTHER PAIRS OR IF THERE'S SOME, LET'S START WITH PAIRS. IT'S ALWAYS BETTER TO DO PAIRS. YES, MA'AM. LECTURES AND THEN TRY NOT TO TEACH MAYBE. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. I THINK THERE'S TWO. DON'T TAKE THINGS PERSONALLY UP THERE. OH YEAH, I THINK THERE ARE TWO THAT TAKE. THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT SAYS DON'T THINK, DON'T TAKE THINGS. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY THAT GO MAYBE WITH AS NOW ARE THERE, ARE THERE ANY OTHER PAIRS? DOES PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETING? GO WITH ATTENTIVENESS, PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETING? GO WITH WHICH ONE? UH, ATTENTIVENESS. OKAY. OR MAYBE SHARING IDEAS IS EVEN MORE. OKAY, SO MAYBE THOSE THREE GO TOGETHER. WOULD THOSE THREE GO TOGETHER YOU THINK? WHERE'S THE SHARING IDEAS? ONE? HERE IT IS. REMEMBER TO USE YOUR MICS WHEN YOU WANNA CHIME IN. PLEASE. WOULD YOU SAY THESE THREE GO TOGETHER? OKAY. OKAY. THESE ARE TWO NEW ONES. I MEAN, THEY HAVEN'T BEEN SHARED AT ALL. RIGHT? OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU . OKAY, BILL CONSENSUS NOW AND ACTIVE LISTENING. NOW , LISTEN WHICH ONE? TRY THE CONSENSUS AND THEN BUILD CONSENSUS NOW. OH, OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. SO DO ANY OF THESE OTHERS EITHER GO WITH ANY THAT THEY'RE UP HERE NOW OR I THINK, UH, PROMOTE A TEAM MENTALITY AND ACTIVELY BOND, UH, PROMOTE A TEAM MENTALITY OR RESPECTFULLY BOND. I'M SORRY. OH YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. AFFAIRS. OKAY. MOVE THE ACTIVE LISTENING UP WITH THE LISTENINGS. OKAY, SO WE STILL HAVE UNDERSTANDING THE NEEDS OF OTHER DISTRICTS. AUTHENTIC CONVERSATION. IF IT AIN'T BROKEN, PROVE IT. ADOPT AN OPEN DIALOGUE. RELY ON EACH ONE'S UNIQUELY ST UNIQUE STRENGTHS AND USE TIME WISELY. DO ANY OF THOSE GO WITH WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY? ADOPT A OPEN DIALOGUE WITH COMMUNICATION AND DON'T BE A JERK. I'M SORRY. WITH WHERE? DON'T BE A DON'T BE A JERK. AND, UH, COMMUNICATION. OKAY. I CAN'T, WHEN YOU SAY AUTHENTIC CONVERSATION, WHICH IS THIS? I I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S PART OF JUST COMMUNICATION, YOU KNOW, REALLY KIND OF GETTING TO THE HEART OF THE MATTER. UM, OKAY. BEING SINCERE. OKAY. UM, UNDERSTANDING WHAT, OKAY. WHAT THAT CONVERSATION'S ABOUT. WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU MIND JUST AND ADDING BE SINCERE ON THE BOTTOM HERE? WHAT'S THAT? JUST ADD BE SINCERE ON IT. BE SINCERE? YEAH. OR SINCERITY. EITHER ONE. THEY USE TIME WISELY WITH THE ATTENTIVENESS. PARTICIPATE, SHARING IDEAS. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANKS. UHHUH. , WHAT DOES THAT ONE SAY? THAT SHE JUST MOVED? OH, I CAN'T SEE IT FROM HERE. . WHICH ONE, WHICH ONE RELY ON EACH ONE'S UNIQUE STRENGTH? THIS ONE RELY ON EACH ONE'S UNIQUE STRENGTH. OKAY. AND THEN THIS ONE SAYS AUTHENTIC COM COMMUNI CONVERSATION. BE SINCERE. AND THAT ONE WOULD GO OVER HERE WITH THIS. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. SO WE HAVE UNDERSTANDING THE NEEDS OF OTHER DISTRICTS IF IT AIN'T BROKE AND PROVE IT. RELY ON EACH ONE'S UNIQUE SITUATION. STRENGTH. UNDERSTANDING. STRENGTH. I'M SORRY? UNDERSTANDING. UNDERSTANDING THE NEEDS OF EACH DISTRICT'S MAYBE UNDER THE BUILD CONSENSUS. OH, OKAY. LET ME JUST QUICKLY, WE'RE GONNA DO WHAT WE, WHAT'S CALLED A TAG RIGHT NOW. JUST KIND OF GET THE SENSE OF WHAT EACH ONE OF THESE IS ABOUT. SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT, LISTEN TO UNDERSTAND, LISTEN. ONE MOUTH, TWO EARS, LISTEN TO LEARN ACTIVE LISTENING. NOW, AUTHENTIC CONVERSATION. BE SINCERE. WHAT IS THIS COLUMN ABOUT GENERALLY IN TERMS OF A [01:05:01] BEHAVIOR, KIND OF BEHAVIOR YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE. SPEAK TO EACH OTHER AND BE RESPECTFUL. OKAY, SO LISTENING TO EACH OTHER. YOU GONNA DO THAT? YEAH. YEAH. YOU'RE A LITTLE TALLER THAN I AM. TOO. RESPECT ON IT? NO? MM-HMM. OKAY. JUST THE FIRST THING THAT COMES. ALRIGHT. AND THEN A ATTENTIVENESS. WHEN CHALLENGES, WHEN COLLEAGUES SPEAK. PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETING, SHARING IDEAS. BE CREATIVE. DON'T SHOOT DOWN IDEAS. USE TIME WISELY. WHAT IS, WHAT IS THIS ONE ABOUT? JUST GENERALLY BE ENGAGED. OKAY. BE ENGAGED. ALRIGHT. AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE IF IT AIN'T BROKEN, PROVE IT BELONGS. YOU THINK THAT'S WHERE, WHICH ONE? OH, IF THIS ONE GO. OKAY. OH MY GOSH. I REALLY, MY HANDWRITING IS JUST GONNA GO DOWN. IT'S DOWN. OKAY. AND THEN, UH, LET'S SEE. TAKE COMMUNICATION WITHOUT COMBATIVENESS. DON'T BE A JERK. ADOPT AN OPEN DIALOGUE. WHAT IS THAT ONE ABOUT? WHAT THEY SAY? RESPECT. YOU KNOW, RESPECT. RESPECT. OKAY. KNOW WHAT GOES WITH THAT? I THINK DON'T SAY THINGS PERSONALLY. OKAY. PERSONALLY, AND, UH, ACCEPT CRITICISM. OKAY. WE CAN, I THINK THOSE KIND. OKAY. IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT? MOVING THESE SO THAT THIS ONE SAYS, DON'T TAKE THINGS PERSONALLY. ACCEPT CRITICISM. DON'T TAKE THINGS PERSONALLY. ADOPT AND OPEN DIALOGUE. DON'T BE A JERK IN COMMUNICATION WITHOUT COMBATIVENESS. YEAH. OKAY. SO HOW ABOUT THIS ONE? I'M SORRY. YEAH, IF YOU HAVE A THOUGHT, SPEAK UP TO RELY ON EACH ONE'S STRENGTH SHOULD GO UNDER BILL CONSENSUS. UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS OF EACH DISTRICT. OKAY. OR EACH OTHER'S DISTRICT. OKAY, SO THIS IS TRY TO COME TO CONSENSUS. BUILD CONSENSUS. NOW UNDERSTANDING THE NEEDS OF OTHER DISTRICTS AND RELY ON EACH OTHER'S UNIQUE STRENGTH. WHAT, WHAT IS THIS ONE ABOUT? JUST GENERALLY ACCEPTANCE. ACCEPTANCE, OKAY. AND THEN HERE WE HAVE NO LECTURES OR PROSELYTIZING. TRY TO LEARN, NOT TEACH. JUST REAL QUICK ABOUT LISTENING. LISTENING YOU. SO WE SHOULD PUT IT OVER THERE. OKAY. IZING. I CAN'T EVEN SAY THAT WORD. . GLAD YOU GOT IT. HOW ABOUT THIS ONE OVER HERE? RESPECTFULLY, BOND ON A UNITED FRONT AND PROMOTE A TEAM MENTALITY. TEAMWORK. TEAMWORK. OKAY. I, ME, I'M GONNA MOVE THIS OVER HERE TO THE CENTER SO THEY CAN DON'T TAKE IT. THE CENTER. YEAH. OKAY. SO GIVE ME WHATEVER YOU IDEAS YOU HAVE LEFT. GO AHEAD AND GIVE THEM BACK. GIVE THEM TO ME. I THINK THAT MAYBE THE RELY ON EACH OTHER'S STRENGTHS SHOULD BE UNDER RESPECT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BE RESPECTFUL OF EACH OTHER. OKAY. OKAY. SON, YOU WANNA MOVE THAT ONE? YEAH. THANK YOU. THIS ONE. RELY ON EACH OTHER'S STRENGTHS. THREE WORDS. . BIRDS. THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANY? YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. CAN YOU ADD ANOTHER WORD TO THAT? PLEASE? IF YOU PUT LESS THAN THREE WORDS, SHE'S GONNA GIVE IT BACK TO YOU. . I THINK THERE'S SOME IN THERE THAT ONLY HAD TWO. YEAH, I THINK YOU'RE OKAY. OKAY. BE ABLE TO COMPROMISE PATIENCE RIGHT NOW. , ASSUME THE BEST IN OTHERS. ALLOW ONE TO HAVE A COMPLETE THOUGHT PROCESS. SHARE YOURSELF. COLLABORATION DEVELOPS TRUST. REMAIN OPEN TO COMPROMISE. THINK BEFORE YOU TALK, YOUR WORDS ARE POWERFUL, YOUR THOUGHTS ARE GOLDEN. WORK WITH EACH OTHER TO UNDERSTAND INTERPRETING AS WE ARE GOING ALONG. IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT DID WE LEARN FROM THAT PRESENTATION? RESPECTFUL DIALOGUE NOW. THANK YOU. PLEASE , PLEASE VALUE TEAMWORK. CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE RESPECTFULLY HERE AND ENGAGE IN MEANINGFUL DIALOGUE. EMPOWER THE GROUP AND BE PROFESSIONAL WITH ALL. OKAY. ANY OF THOSE? MAKE A PAIR THAT YOU CAN, OR ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF 'EM FIRST? ANY CLARIFICATION? OKAY. SO ARE THERE ANY [01:10:01] UH, THE PAIRS IN THERE THAT ARE DIFF THAT ARE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY? THE TO COMPROMISE, UH, BE ABLE TO COMPROMISE? YEAH. OKAY. I THINK THE COMPROMISE SHOULD GO UNDER TEAMWORK. THE, OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. ANY, ANY OF THE OTHERS GO TOGETHER, ASSUME THE BEST IN OTHERS. VA PLEASE VALUE TEAMWORK. INTERPRETING AS WE ARE GOING ALONG. IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT DID WE LEARN FROM THAT PRESENTATION? THINK BEFORE YOU TALK. YOUR WORDS ARE POWERFUL. PATIENCE. RIGHT NOW. ALLOW ONE TO HAVE A COMPLETE THOUGHT PROCESS. RESPECTFUL DIALOGUE. NOW, UH, WE CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE RESPECTFULLY, BE PROFESSIONAL WITH ALL WORK WITH EACH OTHER. TO UNDERSTAND, ALLOW ONE TO HAVE A COMPLETE THOUGHT PROCESS. SHARE YOURSELF. COLLABORATION DEVELOPS TRUST, EMPOWER THE GROUP AND ENGAGE MEANINGFUL AND MEANINGFUL DIALOGUE. VALUE TEAMWORK WITH TEAMWORK, OF COURSE. UM, , WHICH ONE? OH, VALUE. TEAMWORK. OKAY. YES. YEAH. TEAMWORK. WE CAN GO HERE. UH, I THINK BEFORE YOU TALK THAT'S LISTENING. UM, OKAY. SHARE YOURSELF. COLLABORATION. BE ENGAGED. OKAY. AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE THAT SAYS, UH, CELEBRATE IDEAS THAT ARE BETTER THAN YOURS. THINK. EMPOWER THE GROUP IS TEAMWORK. OKAY. OH, WORK WITH EACH OTHER TO UNDERSTAND. WOULD THAT GO UNDER TEAMWORK? ALSO TEAMWORK. OKAY. OKAY. SO WE HAVE, UH, CELEBRATE IDEAS THAT ARE BETTER THAN YOURS. PATIENTS RIGHT NOW ALLOW ONE TO HAVE A COMPLETE THOUGHT PROCESS. INTERPRETING AS WE GO. AS WE'RE GOING ALONG. ASSUME THE BEST IN OTHERS. UH, YOU CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE, RESPECTFUL DIALOGUE AND BE PROFESSIONAL IN ALL WITH ALL ENGAGE, I'M SORRY. THE ENGAGE MEANINGFUL DIALOGUE WITH, BE ENGAGED WITH BE UNDER ENGAGEMENT. MM-HMM. . OKAY. WHAT WERE YOU GONNA SAY, MR. COURAGE, I THINK, UH, HAVE, UM, A LAWSUIT OTHERWISE. NOW YOU READ. CAN YOU SEE THEM OKAY? YEAH. I KNOW THEY HAVE REALLY GOOD EYES AGAIN. SURE. PATIENTS RIGHT NOW ALLOW ONE TO HAVE A COMPLETE THOUGHT PROCESS. CELEBRATE IDEAS THAT ARE BETTER THAN YOURS, INTERPRETING AS WE ARE GOING ALONG. IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT DID WE LEARN FROM THAT PRESENTATION? RESPECTFUL DIALOGUE. NOW, BE PROFESSIONAL WITH ALL YOU CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE RESPECTFULLY AND ASSUME THE BEST IN OTHERS. YEAH. RESPECTFUL DIALOGUE GOES WITH RESPECT. OKAY. DISAGREE TO, I'M SORRY. AGREE TO DISAGREE. RESPECTFULLY. RESPECT. THIS ONE. UH, GOES UNDER RESPECT. OKAY, GOOD. I THINK BEING PROFESSIONAL ALSO GOES UNDER RESPECT. OKAY. PATIENCE GOES UNDER RESPECT. LEMME PUT IT UP HERE. I THINK ASSUME THE BEST AND OTHERS SHOULD GO UNDER ACCEPTANCE. ALLOW ONE UNDER. OKAY. I THINK INTERPRETING IS BEING ENGAGED. OKAY. AND THEN THIS LAST ONE THEN IS A, CELEBRATE IDEAS THAT ARE BETTER THAN YOURS. TEAMWORK. TEAMWORK. OKAY. TEAMWORK. OVER HERE. YOU WANNA MOVE THAT ONE TO THE MIDDLE? SONYA, YOU OKAY? SO NOW WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS THINK ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR QUESTION HERE. LEMME GET THIS. AND WE'RE GONNA, WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO WORK TOGETHER AS WE PREPARE TO EMBARK ON OUR JOURNEY TOGETHER? SO, AS WE DO THAT, THEN WHAT I WANT, WHAT I'M GONNA DO IS I'M GONNA READ THROUGH EACH ONE OF THESE LISTS AND I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO COME UP WITH A NAME. A NAME THAT YOU WOULD GIVE TO THIS GROUP OF, WELL, SORRY, TO THIS GROUP OF THOUGHT. SO IF YOU WERE GONNA SAY, WRITE A CHAPTER IN A BOOK, IF THIS WAS GONNA BE A CHAPTER IN A BOOK, OR IF IT WAS GONNA BE THE TITLE OF A, OF A STORY, WHAT WOULD YOU CH WHAT WOULD YOU CALL [01:15:01] IT? THE, THE, THE, THE COMPONENT PARTS ARE PATIENTS RIGHT NOW. COMMUNICATION WITHOUT COMBATIVENESS. DON'T BE A JERK. ADOPT AN OPEN DIALOGUE. ACCEPT CRITICISM. DON'T TAKE THINGS PERSONALLY. DON'T THINK, DON'T TAKE THINGS PERSONALLY. RELY ON EACH OTHER'S ON EACH ONE'S UNIQUE STRENGTH. RESPECTFUL DIALOGUE. NOW YOU CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE RESPECTFULLY AND BE PROFESSIONAL WITH ALL. SO WHAT WOULD YOU SAY THIS IS ABOUT? WHAT'S THE TITLE OF THIS IN TERMS OF THE BEHAVIORS? THE BEST WAY TO WORK TOGETHER. FOLLOW THE GOLDEN RULE. I'M SORRY. FOLLOWING THE GOLDEN RULE. FOLLOWING THE GOLDEN RULE. OKAY. THE FORMULA TO PROGRESSION. THE FORMULA TO PROGRESSION. PROGRESSION. OKAY. WHAT THE WAY THIS IS GONNA WORK IS THAT I'LL KEEP ASKING YOU FOR IDEAS UNTIL YOU, UNTIL THERE'S SOME SORT OF SIGNAL, A THUMBS UP OR A YAY OR SOMETHING THAT FROM YOU ALL THAT SAYS, THIS IS THE ONE THAT WE AGREE ON. WE'D REALLY LIKE THIS TITLE. AND IF YOU, IF YOU DON'T LIKE A TITLE, THEN MAKE A SUGGESTION FOR A, A, UH, WHAT SUGGEST WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE. I LIKE THE GOLDEN RULE. YEAH, I IT TOO. THE GOLDEN RULE. OKAY. OKAY. SO WHAT'S THE VERB WITH THAT? THE FOLLOWING. JUST FOLLOWING RULE. FOLLOW THE GOLDEN RULE. OKAY. OKAY. SO THEN WE WOULD TAKE, I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT, WE JUST CAME TO CONSENSUS ABOUT SOMETHING. . THAT'S THE IDEA. YES. OKAY. SO THEN THE NEXT ONE HERE, SONYA. THE NEXT ONE WOULD BE LISTEN TO UNDERSTAND. LISTEN. ONE MOUTH, TWO EARS. LISTEN TO LEARN ACTIVE LISTENING. NOW, AUTHENTIC CONVERSATION. BE SINCERE. NO LECTURES OR PROSELYTIZING. TRY TO LEARN, NOT TEACH. THINK BEFORE YOU TALK, YOUR WORDS ARE POWERFUL, YOUR THOUGHTS ARE GOLDEN. ALLOW ONE TO HAVE A COMPLETE THOUGHT PROCESS. I'M ASSUMING THAT MEANS DON'T INTERRUPT. IS THAT OKAY? SO WHAT WOULD THE TITLE FOR THIS BE? IF YOU WERE GONNA TIE, GIVE THIS A TITLE. WHAT'S IT ABOUT? OPENING YOUR EARS. OPENING YOUR EARS. OKAY, WHAT WERE YOU GONNA SAY? ALL EARS. ALL EARS. OKAY. WE NEED A VERB. OKAY? BECAUSE IT'S A BEHAVIOR. THESE ARE THE BEHAVIORS THAT YOU ALL ARE GONNA BE, UH, USING AS YOU WORK TOGETHER TODAY. BE THE EARS, BE THE EAR. BE THE EAR. . OKAY, OTHER THOUGHTS? WHAT, WHAT WOULD YOU NAME THIS? MAYBE USE THOSE EARS. USE THOSE EARS. OKAY. I THINK BE ALL EARS. BE THE BE ALL EARS. BE ALL EARS. THAT'S GOOD. OKAY. BE ALL EARS. BE ALL EARS. THAT DOES IT. THAT, THAT GOOD FOR, FOR EVERYBODY. OKAY. BE ALL EARS. ALL RIGHT, . OKAY. PROMOTE A TEAM MENTALITY. RESPECTFULLY. BOND ON A UNITED FRONT. BE ABLE TO COMPROMISE. REMAIN OPEN TO COMPROMISE. PLEASE VALUE TEAMWORK. EMPOWER THE GROUP. WORK WITH EACH OTHER TO UNDERSTAND, CELEBRATE IDEAS THAT ARE BETTER THAN YOURS. WHAT IS THIS ONE ABOUT? WHAT DO WE WANNA CALL THIS IN TERMS OF A BEHAVIOR THAT YOU ALL WOULD USE TO GUIDE YOUR DELIBERATIONS AND WORK TOGETHER ABOUT BE LIKE POP. BE LIKE POP . OKAY. HOW ABOUT THERE'S NO I IN TEAM, THERE'S NO I IN TEAM. I LIKE, OKAY. SOMETHING ABOUT LIKE, THE SUM OF THE PARTS IS GREATER THAN, YOU KNOW THAT YEAH. THE SUM OF THE PARTS IS GREATER THAN IS GREATER THAN THE WHOLE. YEAH. OKAY. DID YOU WRITE THAT DOWN? OTHER THOUGHTS? WHAT IS THIS? WHAT IS THIS ABOUT? WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF THE WAY THAT YOU ALL WANNA WORK TOGETHER? I THINK SHE WAS RIGHT. THERE'S NO, OKAY. SHE'S A MARKETING GIRL. THAT'S WHY ACE IN THE HOLE. . SO DO Y'ALL WANNA USE THE I THERE'S NO I IN TEAM? DOES THAT WORK FOR Y'ALL? IF YOU DON'T SAY SO, BE LIKE, POP TOO . BE LIKE, POP. WHEN HE'S THE COACH. BE LIKE THE SPURS BE LIKE THE SPURS SOMETIMES, RIGHT? IN A WINNING SEASON. YEAH, IN A WINNING SEASON. POUND THE ROCK. DO WHAT? POUND THE [01:20:01] ROCK. POUND THE ROCK. OH, IS THAT WHAT? OKAY. . I DON'T THINK I KNOW POP WELL ENOUGH. SOUNDS LIKE A CHAIN GANG. SO, WHICH, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU LIKE, DO YOU WANNA TRY, KEEP, KEEP ME TO SAY, KEEP THINKING ABOUT YES. SAY WHAT YOU HAVE SO FAR. UH, BE LIKE POP, THERE'S NO I IN TEAM. THE SUM OF THE PARTS IS GREATER THAN THE WHOLE AND POUND THE ROCK. ANYTHING ELSE? ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ABOUT THOSE? WHAT IS THIS SAYING TO YOU ABOUT WHAT YOU, HOW YOU WANNA BE WITH EACH OTHER TO ANSWER THIS? HOW YOU WANNA QUESTION OVER HERE. HOW YOU WANNA WORK TOGETHER? LET ME READ 'EM AGAIN. PROMOTE A TEAM MENTALITY. RESPECTFULLY. BOND ON A UNITED FRONT. BE ABLE TO COMPROMISE. REMAIN OPEN TO COMPROMISE. PLEASE VALUE TEAMWORK. EMPOWER THE GROUP. WORK WITH EACH OTHER TO UNDERSTAND AND CELEBRATE IDEAS THAT ARE BETTER THAN YOURS. THE WORDS OF EMPOWER, VALUE, CELEBRATE, AND THE GROUP. THAT'S WHY I THINK WHEN IT'S THE NO IION TEAM, I THINK IT, IT REALLY CELEBRATES OR RECOGNIZES THE OTHER. OKAY. OR RECOGNIZE THE OTHER. MAYBE THAT'S SO, SO WHAT WOULD BE THE VERB IN THAT THERE'S NO IION TEAM. OKAY, SO I THOUGHT SHE WAS SUGGESTING EMPOWER VALUE AND CELEBRATE THE GROUP. THAT WASN'T YOUR SUGGESTION. NO, NO. SHE WAS JUST SAYING THAT, THAT, THAT THAT'S WHY SHE LIKED THE I. THERE'S NO I IN TEAMWORK. OKAY. OKAY. WHAT? THE REASON I'M ASKING FOR ANOTHER VERB IS THAT THERE, THERE IS A VERB IN THERE, BUT WHAT'S THE ACTION WORD THAT YOU'RE GONNA DO? REMEMBER THAT THERE'S NO I IN TEAMWORK. UH, BE SURE TO EMPHASIZE THAT THERE'S NO I IN TEAMWORK. WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE ACTION? I, I LIKE WHAT REBECCA SAID ABOUT RECOGNIZING THE OTHER. I THINK THAT COULD BE THE TITLE. RECOGNIZE THE OTHER. MM-HMM. . OKAY. DOES THAT SOUND ALL RIGHT TO EVERYBODY? IS THAT A GOOD ONE? RECOGNIZE THE OTHER, THE OTHER, OR RECOGNIZE THERE'S NO I IN TEAMWORK? NO. RECOGNIZE THE TEAM. RECOGNIZE THE TEAM. OKAY. MAY YOU RECOGNIZE WE ARE A TEAM? RECOGNIZE WE ARE A TEAM. YES. SOLD. IS THAT IT? OKAY. RECOGNIZE WE ARE A TEAM. WE GOT IT. OKAY, THEN WE DO THIS ONE HERE. WE'RE GETTING THERE. WE'RE GETTING THERE. ATTENTIVENESS WHEN COLLEAGUES SPEAK, PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETING, SHARING IDEAS. BE CREATIVE. DON'T SHOOT DOWN IDEAS. USE TIME WISELY IF IT AIN'T BROKE. AND PROVE IT. SHARE. SHARE YOURSELF. COLLABORATION DEVELOPS TRUST. ENGAGE IN MEANINGFUL DIALOGUE AND INTERPRETING AS WHERE AS WE ARE GOING. IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT DID WE LEARN FROM THAT PRESENTATION? SO WHAT IS THIS ONE ABOUT? I THINK IT'S ABOUT TWO THINGS. STRIVING MM-HMM. FOR SOMETHING GREATER. OKAY. UM, BUT IT'S ALSO ABOUT BEING ENGAGED. OKAY. SO DO WE NEED TO MOVE SOME OF THEM OVER TO THE, TO SOME TO ANOTHER GROUP OR SOMETHING? SOMEWHERE. OR, IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A TITLE, WHY NOT ENGAGE YOURSELF. ENGAGE YOURSELF. OKAY. GOOD. SURELY LIKE THAT? IS THAT A GOOD ONE? ENGAGE YOURSELF. EVERYBODY ELSE OKAY WITH THAT? ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? UM, I LIKE THAT, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD ALSO KEEP, OR, AND I THINK WE SHOULD ALSO KEEP STRIVING FOR THE TOP OR SOMETHING WITH A COUPLE OF THOSE THAT WE WOULD PULL OUT. OKAY. SO WHICH ONES WOULD YOU PULL OUT AND HOW? IF IT AIN'T BROKE. OKAY. SO WOULD THEY GO INTO ANOTHER GROUP OR WOULD JUST MAKE IT A SEPARATE GROUP? SEPARATE GROUP. OKAY. AND DOES THERE, IS THERE ANOTHER ONE THAT GOES WITH IT? PRETTY UNIQUE? I, IDEAS. IDEAS. THE SHARING IDEAS OR BEING CREATIVE? THIS ONE GOES WITH THAT. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? OR YOU'RE SAYING THIS? THAT'S A TITLE FOR THIS? I THINK THEY'RE BOTH, BOTH. WHAT I DON'T WANT TO LOSE IS STRIVING FOR SOMETHING BETTER. OKAY. SO STRIVING FOR SOMETHING BETTER IS WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE, UH, SAYING IS THE TITLE FOR THIS THAT ONE BE FOR THIS ONE. THIS ONE HERE. OH, OKAY. STRIVING FOR SOMETHING BETTER. ARE WE GOING WITH COUNCILMAN? ENCOURAGES ENGAGE YOURSELF? NOT YET. HANG ON. CLEAR REACH FOR THE STARS. OKAY. WE CAN, OR MAYBE WE CAN COMBINE AND DO LIKE, ENGAGE YOUR PASSION. 'CAUSE EVERYBODY HAS, [01:25:01] IT'S NOT, IT'S, I'M NOT, IT'S NOT MY DECISION. , ENGAGE YOUR PASSION. ARE YOU, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT PUTTING THESE BACK IN HERE AND THEN PUTTING 'EM ALL TOGETHER? OH, I THOUGHT WE WERE STILL ON A NAME FOR IT. YEAH. YEAH. I THINK WE'RE GETTING CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT WE'RE, YEAH. LET'S, LET'S FOCUS ON THIS ONE AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK OVER HERE TO THIS ONE. SO IF WE TOOK, LOOK AT THIS ONE, THEN WE CHANGED IT. SO IT'S ATTENTIVENESS WHEN, UH, COLLEAGUES ARE SPEAKING, PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETING, INTERPRETING AS WE'RE GOING ALONG. WHAT DO WE, WHAT DID WE LEARN FROM THAT PRESENTATION? USING THE TIME WISELY. SHARE YOURSELF. COLLABORATION DEVELOPS TRUST AND ENGAGE IN MEANINGFUL DIALOGUE. SO WHAT IS THIS ONE ABOUT? ENGAGE YOURSELF IS ON THE TABLE. ENGAGE YOURSELF. WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE? STRIVING FOR SOMETHING GREATER AND BEING ENGAGED. OKAY. ENGAGE IS PASSION. STRIVING. ENGAGE WHAT? ENGAGE YOUR PASSION. ENGAGE YOUR PASSION. YES. NO, SOMETHING ELSE. THIS IS THE HARD PART. SO WE'RE ALMOST THERE. I LIKE YOURSELF. ENGAGE YOURSELF. OKAY. IS THAT ME TOO? IS THAT OKAY WITH EVERYBODY? . GOT IT. OKAY. ENGAGE YOURSELF THEN LET'S LOOK AT THIS ONE, THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO THAT ONE. UH, TRY TO COME TO A CONSENSUS. BUILD CONSENSUS. NOW UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS OF OTHER DISTRICTS AND ASSUME THE BEST IN OTHERS. WHAT IS THAT? THAT, WHAT IS THAT ONE ABOUT? HERE WE GO. TEAMWORK. TEAMWORK. YOU WANNA JUST PUT 'EM UNDER, UNDER THE, THE RECOGNIZE WE ARE A TEAM. WE HAVE TO CATEGORIZE THOSE. YEAH, THESE, WELL, THESE HERE ARE, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THEM AS A SEPARATE GROUP, BUT WE CAN, IF YOU THINK THEY GO UNDER T UNDER RECOGNIZE WE ARE A TEAM, THEN WE CAN JUST MOVE THEM AND PUT 'EM IN HERE WITH THIS, I THINK BILL CONSENSUS. OKAY, SO BILL CONSENSUS NOW WOULD GO IN HERE. YEAH. AND WHAT'S THE ONE AT THE TOP? TRY TO TRY TO COME TO S TRY TO COME TO CONSENSUS. YEAH. OKAY. SO THEN WE HAVE THESE TWO. UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS OF OTHER DISTRICTS AND ASSUME THE BEST IN OTHERS. UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS OF THE DISTRICT SHOULD GO UNDER THE SHARING IDEAS. BE CREATED UNDER HERE. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING HERE TO GO. OKAY. AND SO ASSUME THE BEST IN OTHERS. WOULD THAT GO OVER HERE TOO? FOLLOW THE GOLDEN RULE. GOLDEN RULE. FOLLOW THE GOLDEN RULE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THEN IF WE TALK ABOUT THIS ONE, IF IT AIN'T BROKE, PROVE IT. SHARING IDEAS, BE CREATIVE. DON'T SHOOT DOWN IDEAS AND UNDERSTANDING THE NEEDS OF OTHER DISTRICTS. WHAT IS IT? WHAT TITLE WOULD WE GIVE THIS? SHE WANTED HER STRIVING FOR HIGHER. HOW ABOUT LIKE, REIMAGINE IT. I'M SORRY. REIMAGINE IT. REIMAGINE IT. REIMAGINE, OKAY. MM-HMM. . STRIVE FOR EXCELLENCE. STRIVE FOR EXCELLENCE. SOMEBODY ELSE SAID ONE. SHOOTING FOR THE STARS. SHOOTING FOR THE STARS. OKAY. . YEAH. Y'ALL JUST NEED TO DECIDE WHICH ONE YOU LIKE THE BEST. REIMAGINE IT. STRIVE FOR EXCELLENCE. SHOOTING FOR THE STARS. WHEN YOU SAY REIMAGINE IT, WHAT'S IT ANYTHING LIKE? WE JUST NEED TO BE CREATIVE AND INNOVATIVE AND PROPOSE SOLUTIONS. THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX. ANY CLICHE YOU WANNA HAVE ANSWER. , ALL THOSE CLICHES. RIGHT? OKAY. WAIT, MAY I MAKE A SUGGESTION? SURE, OF COURSE. BECAUSE THIS SEEMS TO BE THE SMALLEST CATEGORY, BUT I I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. UM, WHAT, IF ANY TITLES THAT WE DON'T SELECT THAT HAVE BEEN SUGGESTED, WE PUT THEM UNDER THAT CATEGORY TOO. WHATEVER Y'ALL, IF Y'ALL WANNA DO THAT, THAT'S FINE. UM, SO I LIKE SHOOT FOR THE STARS. OH, SHOOT. SHE WANTS US TO WRITE IT IN PART IN THAT. OKAY. SHOOTING FOR THE STARS AS A TITLE. OKAY. HOW ABOUT EVERYBODY ELSE? GIMME ANOTHER ONE. I DON'T SEE A LOT CONSENSUS ON THAT ONE. . IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE EVERYBODY'S, EVERYBODY'S NOT GOING. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. THE WAY YOU DID ON THE OTHERS QUOTE. SO, SO WE WERE QUOTING, YOU AND I WERE QUOTING YODA EARLIER. SO HOW ABOUT DO NOT TRY, JUST DO . YES. ACTUALLY, WHAT YODA SAID WAS, TRY NOT, TRY NOT DO DO. THERE YOU GO. DON'T CHALLENGE HER ON YODA QUOTES. WELL, ACTUALLY, ACTUALLY IT WAS DO DON'T TRY, DO OR DO. THERE IS NO TRY. OKAY. WE'RE NOT HERE TO DEBATE STAR WARS QUOTES. LET'S JUST, I'M SORRY, WHAT DID YOU SAY? WE SAID, WE'LL, WE'LL STEAL NIKE'S. [01:30:01] JUST DO IT. UH, JUST DO IT. YEAH. HOW ABOUT THAT? IS THAT OKAY? THAT WORKS. JUST DO IT. ALL RIGHT. JUST DO IT. HERE WE GO. AND THEN YOU WANTED TO ADD THOSE OTHERS. THE OTHER ONES THAT WE WOULD ADD ON HERE WOULD BE REIMAGINE IT, UH, STRIVE FOR EXCELLENCE, SHOOT FOR THE STARS, AND DO NOT TRY, JUST DO IT. SO WE'LL ADD THOSE ON UNDERNEATH HERE. OKAY, HERE YOU GO. OKAY. SO WHEN YOU, UH, COUNCILMAN SANDOVAL HAS A QUESTION. I'M SORRY, I HAVE A QUESTION. YES. CAN YOU SHARE MIC, PLEASE? JUST DO IT MEAN EXCELLENCE OR, YEAH, I GUESS IF YOU WATCH A NIKE COMMERCIAL, THAT'S WHAT IT MEANS IN THE SPIRIT OF EXCELLENCE. IN THE SPIRIT OF, OKAY. ALRIGHT. OKAY. DO WE NEED TO ADD MORE TO THAT TO MAKE IT CLEARER? I DON'T THINK IT, JUST DO IT BETTER. JUST DO IT BETTER. JUST DO IT BETTER. . OKAY. OKAY. DO, DO WE WANNA ADD, DO YOU WANNA ADD THAT ? JUST DO IT BETTER. OKAY. JUST DO YOUR BEST. JUST DO IT BETTER. LET ME ADD THE BETTER ON THERE. JUST DO IT HERE. I'LL DO IT BETTER LIKE THAT. HERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT. SO WHEN YOU, WHEN WE ASK WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO WORK TOGETHER AS WE PREPARE TO EMBARK ON OUR JOURNEY TOGETHER, JUST DO IT BETTER. ENGAGE YOURSELF. RECOGNIZE WE'RE A TEAM. FOLLOW THE GOLDEN RULE AND BE ALL EARS. THAT'S WHAT YOU'VE SAID, YOU HOW YOU WANNA WORK. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THIS, WHAT WOULD BE THE BENEFITS OF WORKING THIS WAY WITH EACH OTHER? SUCCESS. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE YOU CAN THINK OF AS A BENEFIT BESIDES SUCCESS COHESIVENESS. OKAY. WHAT'S GONNA BE EASY ABOUT DOING THIS? WHAT WE'VE ALREADY SAID, WE THANK YOUR EMPLOYEE SHOULD MAKE IT PRETTY EASY TO DO IT. OKAY. IT'S, YOU'VE SAID IT'S IMPORTANT, SO IT SHOULD BE PRETTY EASY TO DO IT. OKAY. WHAT ELSE? ANYTHING ELSE? WHAT'S GONNA BE EASY ABOUT THIS? ABOUT FOLLOWING THESE AS THE GUIDELINES FOR Y'ALL? FUN DAY . OKAY. IT'D BE A LOT MORE FUN, RIGHT? OKAY. WHAT'S GONNA BE HARD ABOUT IT? MAKING SURE WE ACTUALLY LISTEN. THAT'S ALWAYS THE HARDEST PART, ISN'T IT? YEAH. YEAH. GIVING UP OUR INDIVIDUALITY, I THINK. YEAH. MM-HMM. , YOU DON'T HAVE TO GIVE IT UP, YOU JUST NEED TO MOVE IT OVER A LITTLE BIT, RIGHT? , . A LITTLE. A LITTLE. OKAY. WELL, THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH FOR DOING THIS. UH, WE'RE GONNA, WE'LL POST THESE, WE'LL MOVE THEM, POST 'EM OVER PROBABLY ON THAT WALL OVER THERE SO THAT WE CAN KEEP 'EM AS REMINDERS FOR YOU ALL. AND WE'LL BE KIND OF, UH, IF WE GET OFF TRACK ON ANY OF THESE THINGS, WE'LL JUST REMIND YOU ALL THAT THESE IS WHAT YOU ALL AGREED TO. AND THEN IN THE FUTURE, IF YOU DECIDE TO USE THEM, THEN Y'ALL WILL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU ALL WANNA DO ABOUT REMINDING EACH OTHER THAT THESE ARE THE, THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES THAT WE, UH, CAME, WE AGREED ON. OKAY. SO THEN IT'S TIME FOR A BREAK. LET'S TAKE A, WE'RE GONNA TAKE A 10 MINUTE BREAK. HOPEFULLY WE'LL CAN BACK, GET BACK IN 10 MINUTES BECAUSE WE'RE RUNNING A FEW MINUTES BEHIND TIME AND WE'RE ON A REAL TIGHT SCHEDULE TODAY, AND WE WANNA GIVE EVERYBODY ENOUGH TI TIME TO TALK ABOUT THE THINGS THAT THEY NEED TO TALK ON. OKAY? SO IF YOU'LL COME BACK AT 1111, THAT WOULD BE GREAT JUST TO KINDA, UH, SET THE STAGE AS WE GO INTO THIS NEXT SESSION. UH, WHICH DIGS INTO THE ACTUAL, UH, POLICY ISSUES AND GOING THROUGH, WE'VE PUT THE EIGHT POLICY ISSUES UP HERE, FINANCIAL POLICIES, PROPERTY TAX RELIEF, STREET SIDEWALKS, TRANSPORTATION, STRONG FAMILIES AND CHILDREN, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, PUBLIC SAFETY, POLICE, PUBLIC SAFETY, FIRE AND CIVILIAN COMPENSATION. SO AS WE STEP THROUGH THOSE JUST TO KINDA HAVE A MEASURE, WE'RE JUST GONNA CHECK THOSE OFF SO WE FEEL LIKE WE ARE ACCOMPLISHED AND WE'RE KEEP STEPPING THROUGH THE DAY. UH, AS WE EMBARK ON THESE ISSUES AND DETERMINE THE PRIORITIES, PLEASE BE REMINDED THAT IF YOUR, IF YOUR BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS DO NOT MAKE THE LIST FOR THE ACTUAL BUDGET. THE CITY MANAGER HAS MADE A COMMITMENT TO WORK WITH YOU ALL TO SEE IF WE CAN IDENTIFY OTHER RESOURCES TO MAKE THOSE THINGS HAPPEN FOR YOU. SO PLEASE DON'T, UH, CONSIDER THIS THE END OF THE ROAD. THERE'S OTHER WAYS THAT, UH, THE CITY GETS RESOURCES FOR FUNDING THROUGH BONDS AND SOME OTHER THINGS. SO BE AWARE OF THAT. UH, THE PROCESS FOR EVALUATE, EVALUATING EACH POLICY ISSUE WILL ESSENTIALLY BE THE SAME. THIS APPROACH ALLOWS FOR US TO HAVE CONSISTENCY, UH, FOR OUR DOCUMENTATION, AND IT ALLOWS FOR YOU TO HAVE PREDICTABILITY ABOUT HOW WE'RE GONNA APPROACH EACH OF THE QUESTION, EACH OF THE, UH, POLICY AREAS. SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS WE'RE GONNA STEP THROUGH, UM, A SYNOPSIS OF EACH OF THE PRESENTATIONS THAT YOU ALL PRESENTED LAST TIME, AND THEN FOLLOWING [01:35:01] THAT, WE'LL ASK FOR CLARIFYING QUESTIONS. I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THOSE CLARIFYING QUESTIONS. SO WE'RE GONNA, UM, ASK THAT THE EXECUTIVES COME TO THE FRONT WHEN WE GET TO THEIR, TO THEIR TOPIC. WE ALREADY HAVE THE FINANCIAL POLICY PEOPLE UP HERE. AND THEN I'M GONNA ASK, WHAT THOUGHTS DO YOU HAVE ABOUT ACCEPTING THE PROPOSED POLICIES AND THEN WHAT ARE THE IMPLICATIONS OR WHAT WOULD BE THE IMPACT IF WE DON'T ACCEPT THAT RECOMMENDATION? SO WE WANNA COLLECT BOTH SIDES OF THE COIN. AND THEN, UM, BY THE TIME WE GO THROUGH BOTH OF THOSE QUESTIONS, HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE A GOOD DIRECTION AND I'LL DO A CHECK-IN WITH YOU ALL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAPTURED WHAT WE WANNA HAVE CAPTURED. UM, WE HAVE THREE ABSENT, ARE YOU ALL IN THE ROOM? UH, COUNCILMAN PERRY SANDOVAL. ELIAS IS COMING. OKAY, GOOD. I'M GONNA DO THIS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC THAT IS WATCHING. WE HAVE BEN GELLE WITH THE OFFICE OF BUDGET, CORRECT? CHIEF CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER. AND WE HAVE MARIA, UH, VILLA GOMEZ, THE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER THAT WILL BE ANSWERING QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE TOPIC OF, OF THE PO, THE, UH, FINANCIAL POLICIES. LINDA'S GONNA TAKE NOTES UP HERE. AS I SAID BEFORE, IF SHE DOES NOT CAPTURE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING CORRECTLY, PLEASE CORRECT HER BECAUSE THIS WILL BE OUR RECORD FOR, UH, JIMENEZ TO MAKE OUR NOTES FOR IT. SO, UH, WE'LL JUST DIVE RIGHT INTO FINANCIAL POLICIES. SO, UH, WHAT'S WRONG? THE CURRENT FINANCIAL POLICIES, UM, GUIDELINES ARE TO MAINTAIN A STRUCTURAL BALANCE, MAINTAIN A TWO YEAR BUDGET PLAN, MAINTAIN PUBLIC SAFETY, SPENDING BELOW 66%, MAINTAIN A MINIMUM ENDING BALANCE OF 15%, AND THEN THE OTHERS ARE CONTINGENCY OF 1 MILLION IN THE GENERAL FUND AND 3 MILLION IN CAPITAL BUDGET. AND THEN ADDRESS INTERNAL FUND DEFICITS WITHIN THREE TO FIVE YEARS. DOES EVERYBODY HAVE A COMMON UNDERSTANDING OF THE EXISTING, UH, POLICY GUIDELINES THAT WE OPERATE BY? DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YOU'RE GOOD. OKAY. OOPS. AND SO THESE ARE THE, THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE COMING FORWARD TO MAINTAIN THE CURRENT FINANCIAL POLICIES THAT I JUST SPOKE ABOUT. ON THE OTHER SLIDE, THE PROPERTY TAX RATE MANAGEMENT TO ANNUALLY REVIEW THE IMPACT OF THE STATE IMPOSED 3.5 PROPERTY TAX CAP ON SERVICE DELIVERY AND PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION ON WHETHER TO ADJUST THE PROPERTY TAX RATE. THE SECOND, UH, RECOMMENDATION IS ANNUALLY REVIEW THE PROPERTY TAX RELIEF WITH A FOCUS ON HOMEOWNERS. AND THEN THE LAST RECOMMENDATION IS TO ANNUALLY REVIEW AND PERIODICALLY ADJUST THE FEES AND CHARGES TO PROVIDE FOR COST RECOVERY INFLATION AND OR ALIGNMENT WITH COMPARABLE CHARGES. SO WHAT I'M GONNA SUGGEST IS THAT, UH, WE JUST START AT THE TOP AND WE'LL, IN AS MUCH CONVERSATIONS YOU WANNA HAVE AROUND IT, WE WILL. AND, UM, HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE, WE'LL BE ON TIME, BUT THE IMPORTANT THING TO HEAR IS TO HEAR EVERYBODY'S, UH, PERSPECTIVES ON THE, THE POLICIES. SO WE'LL JUST START AT THE TOP TO MAINTAIN THE CON THE CURRENT FINANCIAL POLICIES, WHICH ARE THESE? IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT? SHIRLEY'S GOT, UM, I DO TURN YOUR MIC ON. OH, YEAH, YOUR MIC. UM, ADDRESS INTERNAL FUND DEFICITS WITHIN THREE TO FIVE YEARS. WHAT IS THAT, BEN? UH, I DON'T, THIS IS NOT RINGING A BELL. GOOD MORNING. COUNCILWOMAN. THAT, UH, REFERS TO OUR INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS. THOSE ARE FUNDS LIKE OUR WORKERS' COMP FUND, OUR EMPLOYEE BENEFITS FUND, OUR INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY SERVICES FUND. THINK ABOUT THEM IN TERMS OF A COMPANY OR A FUND PROVIDING SERVICES TO THE REST OF THE ORGANIZATION. SO AT TIMES THOSE FUNDS CAN GO INTO A DEFICIT POSITION. THINGS LIKE, UH, HEALTHCARE OR, UH, WORKERS' COMP. SOMETIMES WE'LL GET INTO THAT POSITION. UNDER GENERAL ACCEPTED ACCOUNTING PRINCIPLES, WE'VE GOT A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME TO GET THEM BACK TO A POSITIVE LEVEL. SO AS A POLICY, WE'VE SAID WE'RE GONNA DO THAT IN THREE TO FIVE YEARS. ARE WE CURRENTLY IN THE DEFICIT? NO, MA'AM. OKAY. SO, UM, OKAY. THAT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW. AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DISCUSSED THIS A LITTLE BIT LAST TIME IN YOUR PRESENTATION WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE CONTINGENCY OF A MILLION IN GENERAL FUND AND 3 MILLION IN CAPITAL BUDGET. CAN YOU EXPLAIN AGAIN, WHERE, HOW WE CAN USE THOSE FUNDS FOR WHAT PURPOSES? SO, IN THE GENERAL FUND, WE HAVE FOR THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, ASKED YOU TO APPROPRIATE A MILLION DOLLARS A BUDGET, A MILLION DOLLARS IN A CONTINGENCY. AND THAT REALLY ALLOWS US, DURING THE FISCAL YEAR, IF SOMETHING COMES UP THAT IS A HIGH PRIORITY FOR YOU ALL, THAT YOU ALL AS A GROUP CAN TALK ABOUT THAT AND SAY, I WOULD LIKE TO USE THOSE FUNDS TOWARDS THIS ISSUE. TYPICALLY SOMETHING UNFORESEEN, KIND OF A MORE OF AN EMERGENCY TYPE ISSUE THAT WE WANNA PROVIDE FUNDING FOR. SO I KNOW LIKE ONE YEAR WE USED IT FOR THE SAN PREDU PLAYHOUSE WHEN THERE WAS A STORM, AND THEN ONE, AND THEN WE, WE HAVE USED SOME FOR THE HAVEN FOR HOPE, UM, UH, DRAINAGE ISSUE THAT WAS GOING ON THERE. IS THAT THE SAME FUND, [01:40:01] THE TWO EXAMPLES THAT YOU MENTIONED? UH, COUNCILWOMAN IS FROM TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF CONTINGENCIES. UH, THE $1 MILLION CONTINGENCY IN THE GENERAL FUND IS FOR OPERATING EXPENSES PRIMARILY. SO WE PROVIDED THE COUNCIL WITH A FOLLOW-UP MEMO THAT IS INCLUDED IN YOUR BINDER. AND THERE IS A LIST FOR WHAT WE'VE DONE THE LAST, UM, FIVE YEARS WITH THIS CONTINGENCY. SO IT HAS BEEN USED, FOR EXAMPLE, TO PROVIDE, UH, FUNDING, UH, TO ANIMAL CARE SERVICES FOR SPAY ORDER SURGERIES FOR OUR ADOPTION CENTER. UM, ALSO HAS BEEN USED FOR OUR AMBASSADOR PROGRAM WITHIN OUR HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT FOR SOME DELEGATE AGENCIES. SO AS BEN MENTIONED, THAT $1 MILLION BY OUR CITY ORDINANCE, UH, CAN ONLY BE UTILIZED WITH CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL. AND THAT IS DONE AT THE MIDYEAR BUDGET ADJUSTMENT STAFF BRINGS RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL, THE HEAVEN FOR HOPE, UH, EXAMPLE YOU MENTIONED COUNCILWOMAN. THAT HAS TO DO WITH A SECOND CONTINGENCY ON, ON THAT SAME BULLET, WHICH IS THE 3 MILLION IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET. SO THAT IS FOR CAPITAL EXPENSES LIKE THIS FISCAL YEAR, THE FUNDING THAT WAS PROVIDED TO HEAVEN FOR HOPE TO ADDRESS THE DRAINAGE ISSUES IN THEIR, ONE OF THEIR EXISTING BUILDINGS. OKAY. AND I KNOW THAT IT'S BEEN A COUPLE OF YEARS NOW THAT WE'VE HAD THE GENERAL FUND CONTINGENCY. HOW LONG HAVE WE BEEN HOLDING THE CAPITAL BUDGET CONTINGENCY? IT'S BEEN, UH, SINCE 2014, SO ABOUT FIVE YEARS. FIVE YEARS. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER CLARIFYING QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN KERN? YES. THANK YOU. UM, I'D LIKE TO HAVE AN EXPLANATION OF HOW YOU BELIEVE WE CAN MAINTAIN A TWO YEAR BUDGET PLAN, CONSIDERING THAT NEXT YEAR WE'RE GONNA HAVE A CAP AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE, WHAT'S THE OUTLOOK ON HOW TO PLAN FOR A TWO YEAR BUDGET? REALLY, WE'RE GONNA BE APPROVING EXPENDITURES FOR ONE YEAR. HOW ARE WE ALSO LOOKING AT THE SECOND YEAR DOWN THE LINE? SO WE GAVE YOU A FIRST LOOK AT THAT AS PART OF THE FIVE YEAR FORECAST. AND REMEMBER WITH SB TWO OR THE ROLLBACK, UH, RATE BILL, IT WILL TAKE EFFECT NOT IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, 2020, BUT IT'LL BECOME EFFECTIVE IN 2021. WE DID BUILD THAT INTO THE FIVE-YEAR FORECAST. SO THAT IS, THAT IS BUILT IN THAT CAP. UM, BUT AS YOU ALL DELIBERATE AND AS WE PUT THE BUDGET TOGETHER, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS, YOU'RE RIGHT, WE'RE ONLY LEGALLY ADOPTING, IN THIS CASE THE F Y 20 BUDGET. BUT EVERY DECISION THAT YOU ALL MAKE IN TERMS OF WHETHER WE'RE ADDING RECURRING EXPENDITURES OR AS WE MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO THE BUDGET, WE'RE LOOKING IMMEDIATELY AT HOW DOES IT IMPACT 2021. AND OUR GOAL IS TO TRY TO KEEP THAT BALANCE SO THAT, UM, OR TO BETTER POSITION GOING FORWARD. OKAY. UH, AND I'VE GOT A COPY OF THAT. I THINK WE'VE ALL GOTTEN ONE. SO, UH, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS WE PUT UP THERE MAINTAIN A MINIMUM ENDING BALANCE OF 15%. THAT'S CORRECT. UH, DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT BALANCE GROWING TO MORE THAN 15%? WHEN WE CLOSE THE FISCAL YEAR, TYPICALLY WE'RE GONNA END UP AT HIGHER THAN 15% BECAUSE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, WE MAINTAIN A MODERATELY CONSERVATIVE REVENUE PROJECTION, BUT AS IT COMES IN OVER 15%, AND YOU'LL SEE IT IN THE FORECAST DOCUMENT, WE THEN UTILIZE THOSE FUNDS IN A SUBSEQUENT FISCAL YEAR. SO JUST CHANGES THE TIMING OF HOW WE USE THE FUNDS. UH, BUT WE'RE NOT RECOMMENDING INCREASING THE TARGETED 15%. THAT'S OUR MINIMUM. OUR GOAL IS AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, WE'LL BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, BUT THEN WE DEPLOY THAT IN A SUBSEQUENT BUDGET CYCLE. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. COUNCILMAN KERRY? YEAH. LEMME GET BACK TO THAT CONTINGENCY FUND AGAIN. UH, SURE. UM, AND LOOKING AT YOUR CHART, UM, WITH THE COMPARISONS THAT WHAT WE'VE ACTUALLY USED PER YEAR, YOU KNOW, WE, THE MOST WE'VE EVER USED WAS A MILLION DOLLARS. AND, UM, I'M, I'M JUST WONDERING, YOU KNOW, WE BUILD BUDGETS BASED ON HISTORY AND FORECAST. UH, SHOULD WE RE-LOOK AT HOW MUCH WE'RE ACTUALLY KEEPING BACK ON ON THESE, UH, CONTINGENCY FUNDS? UH, YES. COUNCILMAN, AND, AND THE, WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS A GENERAL FUND CONTINGENCY OF $1 MILLION. SO, SO THAT WAS A POLICY DISCUSSION WITH THE COUNCIL BACK IN 2014, TO HAVE SOME DOLLARS AVAILABLE IN CASE SOMETHING OCCURRED DURING THE FISCAL YEAR THAT WAS NOT BUDGETED, UH, COULD BE A A, UH, NATURAL DISASTER OR ADDITIONAL SPENDING. SO THAT WOULD BE AT, FOR THE DISCUSSION FOR THE COUNCIL, IF, IF THE COUNCIL DESIRES TO DECREASE THAT AMOUNT FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, WE FEEL THE $1 MILLION IS, IS A, IS A GOOD NUMBER TO HAVE WITHIN THE BUDGET THAT CAN BE REVISITED AT THE MIDYEAR ADJUSTMENT AND ALSO ALLOWS WITH FLUCTUATIONS OR REVENUE. BUT THAT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER IF, IF THEY WANTED TO, UH, DECREASE THAT AMOUNT. YEAH. AND, AND I MEAN, JUST LOOKING AT THE PROJECTS THAT'S BEEN [01:45:01] FUNDED, YOU KNOW, CONTINGENCY EMERGENCY EMERGENCIES, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT POP UP. I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I QUESTION THAT. UH, SOME OF THESE PROBABLY COULD HAVE WAITED TO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, UH, BUDGET, UM, VERSUS USING A CONTINGENCY FUND. BASICALLY WE, WE BUDGETED A MILLION DOLLARS AND WE SPENT A MILLION DOLLARS. ONE, ONE SUGGESTION COULD BE THAT, UM, UM, THE COUNCIL, WE COULD DEVELOP, UH, ADDITIONAL, UM, GUIDELINES BY WHICH WE WOULD UTILIZE THE CONTINGENCY FUNDS. UM, AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE CHART AND THE HISTORY THAT WE GAVE TO THE COUNCIL THIS WEEK, THERE HAVE BEEN A VARIETY OF THINGS THAT WE'VE USED IT FOR. YES. UM, IN F Y 18, WE DIDN'T USE ANY OF IT. RIGHT. SO, SO THAT COULD BE A POTENTIAL TOPIC OF DISCUSSION FOR THE COUNCIL. IF WE, DO YOU WANT TO, DO YOU WANT TO BETTER DEFINE HOW WE WOULD UTILIZE THOSE FUNDS, UM, IN ADDITION TO THE DOLLAR AMOUNT? YEAH. THE GOAL IS REALLY TO GIVE YOU ALL SOME FLEXIBILITY POST BUDGET ADOPTION, KNOWING THAT WE CAN'T ANTICIPATE EVERYTHING THAT MIGHT COME UP DURING A FISCAL YEAR. RIGHT. THIS DOES GIVE YOU ALL, AS A BODY, SOME FLEXIBILITY AND SOME FUNDING YOU COULD COME, COME TO OR USE IF THERE WAS CONSENSUS AMONG THE COUNCIL TO DO SO. OKAY. YES. UM, I, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE PERSONALLY, I THINK WE NEED TO TIGHTEN UP ON THAT A LITTLE BIT ON HOW WE SPEND THAT MONEY. AND, AND, AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, GENERAL FUND, UH, CONTINGENCY, BUT WE HAVE, UH, CAPITAL BUDGET ON THERE, $3 MILLION, BUT I DIDN'T SEE ANY BACKUP DOCUMENTATION ON HOW MUCH THAT HAS BEEN USED OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. COUNCILMAN. AND, UM, DOES THE OPERATING CONTINGENCY WAS A QUESTION THAT CAME UP DURING THE MEETINGS LAST WEEK, SO THAT'S WHY WE ADDED THAT INFORMATION. BUT WE'LL BE HAPPY TO PUT THAT TOGETHER FOR YOU. UM, I WILL TELL YOU THE, THE CAPITAL BUDGET CONTINGENCY FOR THE MOST PART HAS BEEN USED, UH, DURING BUDGET AMENDMENTS, UH, AS WE GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS. AND, AND THE COUNCIL HAS, UM, INQUIRE ABOUT ADDING SOME CAPITAL FUNDING FOR PROJECTS. THAT'S HOW WE HAVE USED IT, BUT WE'LL BE HAPPY TO PUT THAT TOGETHER. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, SIR. BEN, REMIND ME, WHY IS IT WE MAINTAIN A TWO YEAR BUDGET PLAN, NOT A THREE YEAR BUDGET PLAN? SO WE STARTED DOING THIS BACK IN 2007, AND ONE OF THE THINGS IT REALLY DOES IS IT REALLY ALLOWS US TO MANAGE SOME OF THE FLUCTUATIONS IN OUR REVENUES FROM YEAR TO YEAR. IT'S A MORE DISCIPLINED APPROACH. UM, IT SEEMS TO WORK WELL FROM THE STANDPOINT THAT WE GIVE YOU THE FIVE YEAR FORECAST. AND THEN AS YOU ALL DELIBERATE, THE NEXT UPCOMING BUDGET, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT SECOND YEAR, IT PUTS US IN A PRETTY GOOD POSITION. I DON'T KNOW THAT GOING TO A THIRD YEAR WOULD REALLY DO THAT MUCH MORE FOR US, GIVEN THE WAY WE'RE THE WAY THAT WE'RE STRUCTURED. OKAY. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. AS WE LOOK AT THE EXISTING, UM, POLICIES FOR FINANCE, WHAT WOULD BE THE IMPACT? UH, OR, I'M SORRY, I WENT TOO FAST. , WHAT THOUGHTS DO YOU HAVE ABOUT ACCEPTING THE PROPOSED POLICIES? UM, THE EXISTING POLICIES FOR THIS ONE, WE NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE, OR NO, WE WON'T BE DOING ANY VOTING HERE. THIS IS JUST TO HAVE A DIALOGUE AND SO WE CAN CAPTURE ENOUGH INFORMATION SO THE CITY MANAGER CAN GO BACK AND FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH TO ALLOT TO DIFFERENT AREAS. COUNCILWOMAN, I'M JUST LOOKING FOR, UH, SOME CONSENSUS OR QUESTIONS THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS MAY HAVE ABOUT THE FINANCIAL POLICY. SO I THINK THAT MAY BE AT THAT POINT, GIVEN THE QUESTIONS, YOUR MICROPHONE, PLEASE. UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'VE BEEN SEEING NOW THIS NOW FOR SIX YEARS. I MEAN, I, I THINK THERE'S, UH, AND I ALWAYS BEEN, HAVE BEEN VERY COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING HERE BEFORE. I THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, UM, THE BIGGEST ONE THAT I THINK MIGHT GIVE, UH, PEOPLE PAUSE OR WOULD REQUIRE MORE DELIBERATION IS A PUBLIC SAFETY SPENDING, BECAUSE IT'S THE BIGGEST PART OF OUR BUDGET. 280 MILLION, IS THAT WHAT YOU PRESENTED TODAY? OR 240 MILLION OR THE, UM, AND, AND THAT, OR MAYBE IT'S 340 MILLION, JUST ONLY BECAUSE IT'S THE BIGGEST PART. IT WOULD LIKELY REQUIRE THE MOST DELIBERATION. UH, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M PRETTY COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD. WE'VE, I THINK WE'RE DOING A, A, WE'VE BEEN GIVEN THESE, THESE POLICIES, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO MAINTAIN A AAA BOND RATING. WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO MAINTAIN SOME INDIVIDUAL, UH, PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE ALL BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF. AND, UH, I KNOW THAT I FEEL PARTICULARLY PROUD OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH SO FAR. SO I FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THE POLICIES. MAYOR, DID YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING? NO, I, I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY. I THINK THAT THESE POLICIES ARE AT THE HEART OF WHY, UH, OUR CITY'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL [01:50:01] AND, AND, UH, RECOGNIZED AS A, A STRONG FISCAL STEWARD OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS. UM, I DO HEAR WHAT THE COUNCILMAN IS SAYING ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE DEGREE OF FLEXIBILITY WE HAVE WITH OUR BUDGET THAT ISN'T PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, AS WELL AS, UM, THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE ABOUT CONTINGENCY AND MINIMUM AMENDING BALANCE, IF ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS NOT NOW, BUT IN FUTURE DISCUSSIONS, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IF THAT NEEDS TO BE KIND OF A LONGER TERM VIEW AND WHERE THAT SHOULD MOVE. UH, BUT IN TERMS OF THE, UM, FINANCIAL POLICIES TODAY, I, I STRONGLY SUPPORT THEM. OKAY. COUNCILMAN SANDOVAL? UM, I APOLOGIZE, I CAME IN A A COUPLE OF MINUTES LATE. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE 60%, UH, WITH RESPECT TO PUBLIC SAFETY, UM, IS THERE A SPECIFIC TYPE OF SPENDING THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN THERE FOR? AND LEMME TELL YOU WHY I ASK, IS I THINK SOME OF THE FUNDING WE PROVIDE TO OUR DELEGATE AGENCIES OR IN OUR HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT ALSO CONTRIBUTE TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY. SO WHAT, UM, WHAT ARE WE TARGETING WITH THAT? SO, UH, WHEN, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY IN THE GENERAL FUND, WE'RE INCLUDING ALL EXPENSES ASSOCIATED WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND THE PARK POLICE DIVISION. UM, GO AHEAD, ERIC, IF I MAY, JUST TO, UM, ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COUNCILWOMAN GONZALEZ, THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUDGET IN THE GENERAL FUND IS $795 MILLION IN FISCAL YEAR 2019. WAIT, OFF FIREFIGHTERS WERE 4 3 200. THE, THE FIRE CONTRACT, UM, EXPENSES ASSOCIATED WITH THE FIRE CONTRACT A LITTLE NORTH OF $260 MILLION A YEAR. BUT GO AHEAD. SO I THINK I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION, BUT, BUT I THINK TO YOUR POINT, THERE'S, THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT THE CITY INVESTS ON ON AN ANNUAL BASIS THAT ALL IMPACT SAFETY AND PUBLIC SAFETY, RIGHT? SO THIS, I DON'T WANNA MAKE THIS A VERY LONG POINT, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 66% BECAUSE OF THE PENSION LIABILITIES, RIGHT? IS THAT, IS THAT WHY THAT'S THE TARGET? WELL, IT'S, IT'S 66% IS THE TARGET AND BELOW 66% IS THE TARGET OF OVERALL SPENDING. IT'S NOT JUST PENSION, IT'S, IT'S WHAT THE CITY INVESTS IN TERMS OF PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES. UM, WHAT, WHAT THIS ALL CAME ABOUT, UH, FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO BECAUSE THERE HAD BEEN A INCREASING PERCENTAGE OF OUR GENERAL FUND BUDGET SPENT ON PUBLIC SAFETY. AND, AND IT WAS THAT THAT RATE OF GROWTH WAS GROWING FASTER THAN ALL THE OTHER EXPENSES AND OUR REVENUES. AND SO, UM, WITHOUT SOME SORT OF POLICY IN PLACE, UM, THE COUNCIL, UH, SET THIS AND PLACED IN ORDER TO KIND OF HOLD THINGS CONSTANT AS REVENUES GO UP, THIS, THE WHOLE SIZE OF THE PIE GETS LARGER. AND IT'S RECOGNIZING THAT, THAT THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT THE COUNCIL EXPECTS, UH, AND THE CITIZENS EXPECT IN TERMS OF SERVICES FROM THE CITY. IT'S NOT JUST PENSION. MM-HMM. . OKAY. AND I THINK IT'S JUST A QUESTION OF, OF SEMANTICS. WHEN I THINK OF PUBLIC SAFETY, I THINK OF SOMETHING MUCH BROADER THAN, THAN JUST THAT. SO THANK YOU. MM-HMM. ? YES, SIR. YEAH, IT, I'VE BEEN LOOKING THROUGH THE FIVE YEAR FORECAST, AND I'VE NOTICED THAT IN OUR, UM, IN OUR DEDICATED FUNDS FOR D S D, UH, FOR SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT, WE HAVE GROWING BUDGET RESERVES, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, IN SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT, IT'S INDICATED THAT NEXT YEAR THE BUDGET RESERVES FOR, UM, RESERVE FOR CAPITAL AND BUDGET RESERVE, IT'S GONNA BE LIKE $23 MILLION AS A RESERVE. UH, AND THAT'S SUPPOSED TO CONTINUE FOR THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, THREE OR FOUR YEARS AT THAT LEVEL. AT THE SAME TIME, DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES, UH, THEIR BUDGET OF FINANCIAL RESERVES AND CAPITAL RESERVES ARE GONNA GO FROM ABOUT 7 MILLION TO 9 MILLION TO 11 MILLION OVER THE NEXT TWO OR THREE YEARS. AND THAT SEEMS TO BE A LOT IN RESERVE, PARTICULARLY WHEN I LOOK AT, UM, SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT. I CAN UNDERSTAND PUTTING MONEY IN RESERVE IF YOU THINK YOU'RE GONNA NEED IT, BUT WHEN THE RESERVE STAYS THE SAME THAT HIGH YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR, WHAT I, WHAT I'M GETTING TO IS, CAN WE, IF WE ARE IN A SITUATION THAT WE THINK IS REALLY DIFFICULT FOR US, TRANSFER MONEY FROM THOSE ENTERPRISE, UH, OPERATIONS INTO OUR GENERAL FUND TO KEEP US AFLOAT, UH, WHEN WE LOOK LIKE WE'RE HAVING A DIFFICULT TIME, ESPECIALLY NEXT YEAR WITH THE CAP AND KNOWING WHERE, NOT NOT THIS COMING FISCAL YEAR, BUT 2021, UH, AND WHAT ARE THE, THE, THE STANDARDS THAT WE'VE SET, OR WHAT WAS THE ORDINANCE THAT, UH, MAYBE [01:55:01] KEEPS US FROM DOING THAT? OR IF THERE IS NONE, IS IT JUST A PRACTICE THAT WE'VE ADOPTED THAT WE CAN HAVE FLEXIBILITY WITH OVER THE YEARS? ASK BEN TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THEIR FUND STRUCTURE. BUT THOSE ARE, YOU KNOW, MANY TIMES, UM, UH, D S D OR SOLID, I'LL USE SOLID WASTE AS AN EXAMPLE. UM, THE CONSTRUCTION OF, OF THE TWO NEW SERVICE CENTERS WAS NOT A GENERAL FUND SOLE EXPENSE. UM, AND THOSE ARE FACILITIES, UM, THAT GOES INTO, AS THOSE, AS THOSE BUSINESSES ARE OPERATING WITH THEIR DEDICATED REP WITH THEIR SPECIFIC REVENUES, UM, WHAT WE DO ON A ANNUAL FEE BASIS FOR SOLID WASTE, FOR EXAMPLE, TAKES INTO ACCOUNT WHAT THOSE BALANCES ARE. WE TRY TO KEEP AN OPERATING BALANCE A MINIMUM BALANCE IN THOSE OPERATING, UH, FUNDS IN CASE SOMETHING HAPPENS AS WELL. UM, BUT THEY'RE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION, THE PURCHASE OF TRUCKS, UH, THE RE I'M SORRY, THE REPLACEMENT OF TRUCKS AND EQUIPMENT, UH, BECAUSE OTHERWISE THAT BECOMES, COULD POTENTIALLY, AND IT, IT HAPPENS IN OTHER CITIES, POTENTIALLY BECOMES A BURDEN OF THE GENERAL FUND. UM, ARE THERE, ARE THERE POSSIBILITIES? UM, SURE. THERE, THERE ARE. COUNCILMAN, IF WE WERE IN A DIRE SITUATION, I THINK WE'D PROBABLY HAVE TO THINK THROUGH THAT. D S D FOR EXAMPLE, PREVIOUSLY THOSE REVENUES AND EXPENSES ALL USED TO BE IN THE GENERAL FUND. AND ABOUT 11, 12 YEARS AGO, THEY WERE BROKEN OUT INTO A SEPARATE FUND BECAUSE MANY OF THE COMPLAINTS FROM THE, UM, DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY WAS THAT THEY WERE SUBSIDIZING THE GENERAL FUND OTHER SERVICES. AND THAT THAT'S A, THAT'S A, YOU'VE HEARD THAT YOU'VE HEARD THAT BEFORE. AND, AND SO IT WAS AN INITIATIVE TO PULL IT OUT AND MAKE IT A SELF-SUPPORTING FUND. AND, AND YOU'LL NOTICE IN THE, IN THE MIDYEAR BUDGET THIS YEAR, UH, WHEN WE DID THE, WHEN WHEN YOU APPROVED THE BUDGET OR THE MIDYEAR BUDGET ORDINANCE, WE ADJUSTED, UH, SIX POSITIONS IN ORDER TO ACCOUNT FOR THE RESPONSIVENESS. AND THE, AND THE, THE IDEA WAS THAT AS ACTIVITY GOES DOWN, WE WOULD DIAL DOWN EXPENSES THERE AND OPERATE MORE LIKE A BUSINESS, BUT IT HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN IN THE GENERAL FUND. WELL, I GUESS THOUGH, MY, MY THOUGHT ABOUT THAT IS AT THE SAME TIME WE'RE DEDICATING THIS FOR DEVELOPMENT, WE ALSO DEDICATE INCENTIVES FOR DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS COMING OUT OF OUR TAXES. YEAH. BECAUSE WE CREATE TURS WHERE THE TAX MONEY THAT WOULD COME TO THE CITY GOES TO COMMUNITIES THAT SPEND IT ON ASSISTING DEVELOPMENT. SO, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT 7 MILLION, 9 MILLION, 11 MILLION IN RESERVES IN D SS D OR 23 MILLION IN RESERVES FOR, UH, SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT, THAT THOSE SEEM PRETTY HIGH NUMBERS AND I'M SURE SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT ALREADY HAS INCORPORATED IN THEIR BUDGET THE REGULAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. THIS IS JUST EXTRA MONEY. YEAH. UH, COUNSEL, IF I CAN ADD A COUPLE OF THINGS. UM, THE FUND STRUCTURES, THEY'RE SET UP AS SEPARATE FUNDS. MANY OF THEM HAVE, UM, BY ORDINANCE, DIFFERENT LEGAL PARAMETERS ON THEM. SO I THINK WE'RE PRETTY LIMITED IN TERMS OF OUR ABILITY TO JUST TRANSFER MONEY OUT OF THEM IN MANY CASES. UM, I DO WANNA POINT OUT THOUGH, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE FORECAST, ALSO KEEP IN MIND THAT, THAT THERE ARE REALLY TWO RESERVES IN THE TWO FUNDS YOU JUST MENTIONED. SO IN THE CASE OF D S D, UM, THERE IS A BUDGETED FINANCIAL RESERVE, WHICH JUST WITH IS REALLY JUST A COUPLE MONTHS OF OPERATING EXPENSES. THAT'S MEANT TO DEAL WITH FLUCTUATIONS AS, AS BUILDING PERMITS, UH, EITHER RISE OR FALL THAT CREATES EITHER MORE DEMAND FOR SERVICE OR LESS DEMAND FOR SERVICE THAN D S D. IT GIVES US, GIVES US SOME TIME TO ADJUST. THE OTHER RESERVE, YOU SEE THERE IS WHAT'S CALLED THE RESERVE FOR CAPITAL PROJECT. SO HE'S GOT, IN THE CASE OF D S D, THEY'VE GOT SOME FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE MAKING. UH, YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE BUILD SA BIG SOFTWARE PROGRAM THEY'RE PUTTING IN PLACE. SO PART OF THAT IS TO PAY THE CASH TOWARDS THAT PROJECT COST OR TO PAY FOR THE DEBT SERVICE FOR THAT PROJECT COST. AND THEN I BELIEVE HE'S GOT A A, I'M LOOKING AT ROD, IT'S EITHER A BUILDING OR A PARKING LOT THAT THEY'VE GOT A PARKING GARAGE THAT THEY'VE GOT WANNA BUILD IN THE FUTURE. SO SOME OF THAT IS BEING SET ASIDE FOR THAT. THE SAME IS TRUE IN SOLID WASTE. THE ACTUAL BUDGETED RESERVE THAT I WOULD CALL MORE THE OPERATING RESERVE IS ABOUT FOUR AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS, OR ABOUT SIX AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS RIGHT NOW. THE RESERVE FOR CAPITAL IS WHAT'S GROWING AND IT'S REALLY MEANT TO DEAL WITH FUTURE CAPITAL PURCHASES IN THE FUTURE. I DUNNO IF YOU WANNA ADD TO THAT, MARIA, AND, AND YOU'LL RECALL COUNCILMAN AT THE AUDIT AND CONTRACT COMMITTEE A COUPLE WEEKS OR A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, UH, DAVE MCCURY WAS TALKING ABOUT KEEPING OPTIONS OPEN. WE MAY HAVE TO CONSTRUCT A, UM, A RECYCLING FACILITY. AND WE, WE WE'RE GOING BACK OUT FOR, UM, AN R F P TO CHECK PRICES. AND, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT MR. MCCAREY TALKED ABOUT AT THAT COMMITTEE, UM, [02:00:01] WAS THAT POTENTIALLY DOWN THE ROAD, WE MAY HAVE TO, WE MAY LOOK AT CONSTRUCTING OUR OWN FACILITY, WHICH WOULD BE FUNDED BY THAT CAPITAL RESERVE. BEN'S TALKING ABOUT THAT IS CORRECT. THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA MENTION, COUNCILMAN. THAT'S WHAT THAT RESERVE IS INTENDED FOR. WELL, THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. AND, YOU KNOW, FOOTNOTES IN THESE, UH, REPORTS WOULD THEN HELP US KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT SO THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, THINK, OKAY, THIS IS REALLY DEDICATED. IT'S NOT JUST RESERVE. SO LET'S PUT FOOTNOTES IN THESE SO THAT WE HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING AS WE LOOK AT THIS. UH, AND MAYBE WE CAN FORECAST, UH, YOU KNOW, SO MUCH OF THIS IS GONNA GO FOR THAT OR THAT IN THE FUTURE, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE BUILDING THIS UP. WE'LL DO THAT COUNSEL, BUT ALSO IF THERE IS SOME FLEXIBILITY IN THERE, IF IT TAKES AN ORDINANCE TO GO AHEAD AND TRANSFER SOME OF THAT MONEY, UH, IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE'D RATHER BUILD THAT SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT, UH, A SOLID WASTE, UH, FEATURE TWO YEARS FROM NOW BECAUSE WE NEED THAT MONEY NEXT YEAR OR THE YEAR AFTER, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY IN THOSE RESERVES TO BE ABLE TO BY ORDINANCE OR BY OTHER MECHANISM BEING ABLE TO TRANSFER 1,000,002 OR THREE TO HELP US BALANCE OUR GENERAL FUND BUDGET. COUNCILWOMAN GONZALEZ. SO, UM, I HAD THESE QUESTIONS AS WELL. I'D ASKED SIMILAR QUESTIONS TO THIS MAYBE THE LAST TIME WE HAD OUR BUDGET SESSION ABOUT LIKE, WHERE IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME OR TO DISCUSS THESE, UM, THE SEPARATE FUNDS AND WHY THEY'RE LIKE THAT AND IF IT'S STILL NECESSARY. SO I HAD THE SAME QUESTION ABOUT PARKING. WE DO HAVE PARKING, UM, AS A SEPARATE PARK DEPARTMENT. UH, AND WHY IS THAT? AND IS THAT REALLY STILL NECESSARY? UM, AND THEN THERE WAS THIS ONE, I KNOW THE AIRPORT IS RESTRICTED, BUT I HAD THE SAME ABOUT CONVENTION CENTER AND IF THAT'S RESTRICTED AND THERE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AT SOME POINT WE WERE GONNA HAVE THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT THOSE FUNDS AND IF IT WAS WHY THIS CAME ABOUT. UM, AND WE'VE NEVER HAD THAT CONVERSATION. UH, AND THEN, UM, EVEN THE SAME THING ABOUT PARK POLICE COMING INTO THE PARK, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UM, WHICH THEN SHIFTED THE BUDGET, UH, OF PUBLIC SAFETY TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUDGET. THERE'S NEVER REALLY BEEN AN EXPLANATION ABOUT WHY THAT WAS AND IS THAT STILL NECESSARY? AND SO IF PARK POLICE WAS PART OF THE CITY DEPARTMENTS, I, I THINK AS IT USED TO BE, HOW DOES THAT CHANGE THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUDGET? AND, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, WHY WERE THE, DID THOSE CHANGES OCCUR AND IS IT NECESSARY TODAY? UM, SO I I DON'T KNOW AT WHAT POINT WE DO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS, BUT YOU KNOW, I, I HAD ASKED THOSE FOR, FOR THESE SAME PRESENTATIONS SOME TIME AGO, I THINK LAST YEAR AT THE SAME TIME. SO WE CAN CERTAINLY INCORPORATE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT, UM, THE OTHER FUNDS LIKE PARKING AND HOTEL MOTEL AND, UM, INTO THE CONVERSATION, UM, FOR THE COUNCIL IN, IN AUGUST. UM, AS IT RELATES TO THE PARK POLICE, IT'S AN EXPENSE AND THE PARK POLICE BUDGET, UH, IS ABOUT $16 MILLION, 16 MILLION. SO IT'S ABOUT 1% OF OUR GENERAL FUND. I'M SORRY, DID YOU SAY 16 OR 16? 16. 16. 1 6 1. SO IT'S ABOUT 1%, UH, OF OUR, OF OUR GENERAL FUND BUDGET. AND, AND WE HAVE CONSISTENTLY, UM, SINCE WE'VE HAD THIS POLICY ISSUE, ALWAYS INCLUDED IT WITHIN THERE. IF YOU KNOW, AND I THINK PART OF THE DEBATE IN THE PAST HAS BEEN WITH, WITH, UH, COUNCIL IS WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD NOT INCLUDE PARK POLICE IN THAT 66%. IF WE DID, THEN I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT WE CHANGE THE 66% TO 65%. RIGHT? BECAUSE THERE, THERE'S NO, THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FORMULA IN THE GENERAL FUND IS SHOWING THAT, UM, WE'RE JUST SETTING A, A, A A LEVEL THAT WE WANT TO STAY BELOW. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THERE'S AN, THERE'S MORE MONEY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FORMULA, BUT THAT'S A, THAT'S A POLICY ISSUE THAT THE COUNCIL COULD, COULD DECIDE TO DO. I WOULD, I WOULD RECOMMEND THOUGH THAT, THAT IF WE, IF WE, FOR CALCULATION PURPOSES AND FROM A FINANCIAL POLICY STANDPOINT, IF WE REMOVE PARK POLICE, THEN THAT 66% WE'D NEED THE CALCULATE IT WOULD BE PROBABLY CLOSER TO 60, 63 AND A THREE QUARTER 64 AND A HALF. 64 AND A HALF. OKAY. OH, JUST FOR DISCUSSION, I THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, WE NEVER HAVE GOTTEN ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS THAT, THAT JOHN JUST ASKED BECAUSE I HAD ASKED HIM LAST YEAR. I THINK AT THE SAME TIME, WELL, WE'LL DO A BETTER, I THINK WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB BASED ON THESE QUESTIONS ON DETAILING TO COUNCILMAN K'S POINT, THOSE, UM, UH, WHEN WE HAVE CAPITAL RESERVES LIKE THAT, WHAT THAT'S DEDICATED TOWARDS AND HOW IT FITS INTO THE BIG PICTURE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING ORGANIZATION WIDE. UM, SO [02:05:01] THAT, SO THAT YOU CERTAINLY HAVE A, A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THAT. THANK YOU, UH, COUNCILMAN PERRY AND MR. PAL. YES, THANK YOU. AND I, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH, UM, WITH Y'ALL ABOUT THIS. 'CAUSE I'VE BEEN ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS ALSO. I MEAN, WE'VE HAD, UH, UH, I THINK YOU TALKED ABOUT THE PARKING LAST YEAR 'CAUSE WE HAD LIKE A $30 MILLION, UM, SAVINGS ACCOUNT THE WAY I LOOKED AT IT. AND WHEN YOU ADD UP EACH ONE OF THESE ENTERPRISE FUNDS WITH THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IN RESERVE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE'RE SITTING ON. AND IT MAY BE IDENTIFIED FOR FUTURE PROJECTS. BUT EVEN AT THAT, I MEAN, THERE'S NOTHING SAYING FOR THESE LARGER TYPE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE TO PAY FROM THESE ENTERPRISE FUNDS, COULDN'T WE PUT THOSE PROJECTS LIKE IN A BOND FOR EXAMPLE, COME A FUTURE BOND THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THAT CAPITAL EXPENDITURE, UM, BEING BUILT UP IN THESE SEPARATE ENTERPRISE FUNDS THAT, YOU KNOW, LET'S, LET'S IDENTIFY THOSE AND PUT 'EM IN A BOND AND SEE ABOUT USING THOSE BIG, BIG, UH, SAVINGS ACCOUNTS. AS I LOOK AT IT, HOW ABOUT REDUCING SOME RATES? I MEAN, WE KEEP SEEING, WE KEEP SEEING RATES INCREASE ACROSS THE CITY. HOW ABOUT REDUCING SOME RATES, GIVE SOME RELIEF TO OUR, UH, FOLKS HERE IN SAN ANTONIO? BEN, YOU MIND IF I CHIME IN A LITTLE BIT? YEAH, PLEASE. JUST ON A, ON A COMMENT ON THE, SO WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS. WE CAN COME BACK AND GIVE YOU SOME MORE CONTEXT AROUND THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS ON THE PARKING FUND. THE BALANCE IS ABOUT $13 MILLION. I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'LL HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION AS YOU LOOK AT THOSE IS REMEMBER THAT IN MANY CASES, LIKE HOT TAX, THERE'S A STATUTORY LAW THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS HOW WE CAN SPEND THE DOLLARS IN THE CASE OF USER FEES, PARKING FEES, SOLID WASTE FEES, YOU'RE ADOPTING BY ORDINANCE, A USER FEE, AND WE'RE TELLING THE PUBLIC WE'RE CHARGING FOR THIS SERVICE FOR THAT SPECIFIC SERVICE. IT'S GONNA BE CHALLENGING, MAYBE MORE THAN CHALLENGING, ANDY'S OVER MY LEFT SHOULDER HERE TO TAKE THOSE AND THEN GO USE THEM FOR ANOTHER PURPOSE. SO I'VE JUST GOTTA KEEP THAT IN MIND. BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS, WALK THROUGH THESE DIFFERENT FUNDS, TALK ABOUT WHAT SOME OF THE RESTRICTIONS ARE ON THE FUNDS AND WHAT THEIR PURPOSE IS AND WHY WE DO IT, WHY WE HAVE THEM SET UP. SO WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT. MAYBE NOT MAYBE MOVING THOSE TO THE GENERAL FUND, BUT AGAIN, WE'VE GOT THE FLEXIBILITY TO REDUCE FEES TO KEEP FROM BUILDING THESE THINGS UP. SO HUGE. AND YEAH, YOU CAN ALWAYS CERTAINLY LOOK AT REDUCING FEES AND THEN, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, UM, BECAUSE THAT ALL COMES, THE CAPITAL COMES IN SIDE STILL HAS TO BE DEALT WITH. SO IT'S A MATTER OF WHERE YOU THAT COMES, THAT COMES INTO OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, OUR, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING IS BUILT INTO THOSE, WHAT PEOPLE ARE HAVING TO PAY TO LIVE HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. BEN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG WITH THE, THE BALANCES THAT ARE IN THOSE ENTERPRISE FUNDS ARE ALSO PART OF THE FUND BALANCE MOVING FORWARD YEAR TO YEAR, RIGHT? THAT'S HOW WE ALSO CALCULATE OUR 15%. THOSE ARE OUTSIDE OF THE 15%. THEY'RE OUTSIDE OF THE 15%. YES, SIR. SO THE GENERAL, THE, THE POLICIES, UH, THE FIRST FOUR YOU HAVE LISTED THERE ARE SPECIFIC TO THE GENERAL FUND. UH, THE NEXT TWO ARE BROADER, UM, CATEGORIES. AND THEN THERE'LL BE SOME THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN A SECOND THAT ARE ALSO SPECIFIC TO THE GENERAL FUND. BUT WE DO SET RESERVES BY FUND, BY TYPE DSDS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN, FOR EXAMPLE, AVIATION, WHICH HAS A WHOLE NOTHER NOTHER SET OF RESTRICTIONS THAT COME FROM THE F A A. BUT, UH, AGAIN, WE'RE HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THOSE WITH YOU AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS. COUNCIL IMPLIES, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? YEAH, SO I, I UNDERSTAND THE PURPOSE OF THESE FINANCIAL POLICIES. IT'S VERY, I MEAN IT'S OBVIOUSLY BEST PRACTICES. UM, BEFORE TODAY I WENT AND LOOKED AT OTHER CITIES, YOU KNOW, UH, BUDGETING EXERCISES LIKE THIS IN THEIR DOCUMENTS, AND YOU'LL FIND VERY SIMILAR POLICIES. UM, THIS IS NOTHING EXOTIC. UM, HOWEVER, ONE QUESTION THAT I DO HAVE, AND WHAT I'M HEARING IS, IS THAT, UM, THERE IS UNCERTAINTY ON THE PART OF THIS COUNCIL, AND MAYBE I'M NOT HEARING IT CORRECTLY, AS TO WHAT ARE THE POLICIES WITH REGARDS TO USE OF THESE CONTINGENCY FUNDS, THESE RESERVES. AND SO, UM, DO WE HAVE A LIST OF POLICIES THAT HAVE BEEN ADOPTED? SO IN OTHER WORDS, THERE IS AN ORDINANCE THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA SET ASIDE THIS MUCH, OR THIS IS THE PURPOSE FOR, YOU KNOW, THAT PARKING MONEY. UH, BUT ARE THERE POLICIES OUT THERE THAT, THAT I CAN LOOK AT? I MEAN, I KNOW YOU'VE ONLY GOT ONE SLIDE TO SHOW US THE FINANCIAL POLICIES, BUT SO THERE ARE THE, THE GENERAL FUND IS HERE, RIGHT? AND THEN THE OTHER ENTERPRISE FUND, IT'S GONNA VARY DEPENDING UPON THE TYPE OF FUND AND WHAT IT IS, RIGHT? SO MOST OF THAT IS CONTAINED WITHIN THE BUDGET DOCUMENT. OKAY? SO IN, IN THE BUDGET DOCUMENT, THEN WE'LL SEE SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF, UH, YOU KNOW, THE CONTINGENCY WILL BE X AND IN THE EVENT THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, WE USE THE CONTINGENCY AND IT FALLS BELOW, I DON'T KNOW, 10% OR IT FALLS BELOW WHATEVER NUMBER YOU WANNA ASSIGN IT, THEN THE RESTRICTIONS ARE AS FOLLOWS, AND THIS IS HOW YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO REPLENISH. I MEAN THOSE, THAT'S HOW DETAILED IT [02:10:01] GETS. NO, AND LET ME CLARIFY, BETWEEN CONTINGENCY AND RESERVE. SO WHEN YOU SEE THE CONTINGENCY HERE, THAT'S A BUDGET LINE ITEM THAT GIVES YOU ALL FLEXIBILITY, RIGHT? THAT SAYS POST-ADOPTION OR DURING THE BUDGET AMENDMENT PROCESS, I HAVE THESE, THESE THINGS THAT AS A, AS A GROUP WE WANT TO DO, AND IT GIVES YOU A SOURCE OF FUNDING TO GO DO THAT. OUR RESERVE FUND IS MORE, AND THOSE ARE UNRESTRICTED, RIGHT? THEY'RE JUST, THEY'RE JUST, IT'S A BUDGET LINE ITEM THAT YOU ALL CAN TALK ABOUT AND SAY, LOOK, THIS THING CAME UP POST BUDGET ADOPTION. WE WERE, WE, WE THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. WE NEED TO DO THIS. RIGHT? AND YOU CAN, YOU CAN, YOU CAN DO THAT. AND THERE ARE SOME GUIDELINES, GENERAL GUIDELINES THAT WE HAVE IN THE BUDGET AS IT RELATES TO THOSE ON RESERVES AND ENDING BALANCES WITHIN THESE ENTERPRISE FUNDS. IT FLUCTUATES IN SOME CASES THE AIRPORT, SOME OF THAT'S GONNA BE DICTATED BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF DEBT OUTSTANDING ON THE AIRPORT AS WELL. SO THAT DRIVES SOME OF THAT. BUT THOSE ARE, WE HAVE DEBT SERVICE RESERVES THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE IN PLACE BECAUSE WE HAVE BONDS OUTSTANDING. WE HAVE OPERATING RESERVES THAT IN SOME CASES ARE TIED TO BOND COVENANTS, LIKE IN THE CASE OF THE AIRPORT. UM, AND THEN WE HAVE CAPITAL RESERVES THAT WE MAY SET ASIDE FOR A FUTURE CAPITAL PROJECT. SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT LAYERS. SOME ARE VERY DEFINED BECAUSE THEY COME OUT OF A BOND ISSUANCE OR A BOND INDENTURE. SOME, IT'S MORE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMAL THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS, LIKE A D S D FUND, WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE ECONOMY PERMITTING, AND WE'RE GIVING OURSELVES SOME ROOM TO ADJUST ON A, ON A YEAR TO YEAR BASIS. RIGHT? BUT WHAT ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, ACUTE SHOCKS LIKE A HURRICANE HARVEY, UH, YOU KNOW, WHERE DO WE GET THE MONEY TO RECOVER FROM THAT? SO, UM, THOSE WOULD BE THINGS LIKE, UH, IF YOU HAD A CA CATASTROPHIC TYPE ISSUE, THAT MIGHT BE WHERE WE START TO LOOK AT THE 15% OF THE GENERAL FUND. OKAY. IT WOULD BE SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHERE YOU'RE HAVING SOME HUGE DISRUPT IN SOME HUGE ISSUE AND THEN THERE'S NOT A FORMAL POLICY TO REPLENISH. BUT THE EXPECTATION WOULD BE THAT AS THE, AS THE CITY RECOVERS THAT WE WOULD THEN THAT GET THAT REPLENISHED. SO AT SOME, YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT I DO THINK IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE POLICIES ON THAT 15% THEN, RIGHT? I MEAN, ARE THERE INDEPENDENT POLICIES THAT DETERMINE WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO ON THE, WITH THAT 15%? WELL, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE 15%, IT IS MORE OF A CATASTROPHIC TYPE RESERVE. UM, AND, AND THE REASON WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT 15% COUNSELING, THAT'S ABOUT TWO MONTHS OF OPERATING EXPENSES, ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN TWO MONTHS OF OPERATING EXPENSES. SO SOMETHING THAT IS OUR, WHERE THE MAJORITY OF OUR CORE SERVICES ARE PERFORMED FROM, THAT'S NOT A, UM, A HUGE RESERVE. IT'S TWO MONTHS OF OPERATING EXPENSES. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MEDIAN, IF YOU START TALKING ABOUT BOND RATINGS, IF YOU LOOK AT THE MEDIAN AAA CITY THAT'S GOT A POPULATION MORE THAN A HALF A MILLION, IT'S LIKE 20, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE LAST ONE, LIKE 24, 20 7% IS THE MEDIAN FUND BALANCE. WE'RE COMING IN BETWEEN 15 AND 18, PROBABLY ON A, ON A GIVEN YEAR. SO, SO I UNDERSTAND. VERY DIFFERENT. I UNDERSTAND THAT'S THE PURPOSE AND THAT'S THE SPIRIT OF, OF KEEPING THAT. DO WE HAVE SPECIFIC WRITTEN DOWN ON PIECE OF PAPER POLICIES THAT TELL US WHEN AND WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO WITH THAT MONEY? COUNCILMAN TO SPECIFICALLY ANSWER YOUR QUESTION FOR THE GENERAL FUNK CONTINGENCY, WHAT WE HAVE IN THE BUDGET ORDINANCE IS IF THERE WAS TO BE A CATASTROPHIC EVENT, THE CITY MANAGER WILL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL, AND THEN THE CITY COUNCIL WILL HAVE TO TAKE A VOTE FOR THE USE OF THAT CONTINGENCY. OKAY. FOR THAT RESERVE, I'M SORRY, FOR, UH, THE OTHER RESTRICTED FUNDS, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY IN WRITING IN THE BUDGET DOCUMENT, UM, TO UTILIZE THOSE, UM, RESERVES LIKE THE CAPITAL OR THE OPERATING, UH, THAT IS SOMETHING DEFINITELY THAT WE CAN ADD AND ADAPT AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND SOLID WASTE. THE INTENT OF THOSE OPERATING RESERVES ARE, IF REVENUES FLUCTUATE BECAUSE OF THE ECONOMY, THEN THE DEPARTMENTS CAN CONTINUE OPERATIONS WITHIN THEIR, UH, SELF-SUSTAINING ORGANIZATIONS, BUT WILL BE HAPPY TO ADD THAT TO THE BUDGET DOCUMENTS SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS, AND THE COUNCIL KNOWS WHAT IS THE INTENT OF THOSE, UH, RESERVES AND CONTINGENCIES. AND YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, WE CAN CERTAINLY ADD IT. IT'S NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE, RIGHT? I MEAN, LIKE RESTRICTING AND SETTING THOSE POLICIES. SO MY QUESTION IS, IS HAVE WE JUST NOT GOTTEN AROUND TO DOING IT? OR WAS IT A CONSCIOUS DECISION TO NOT, UH, ESTABLISH CLEAR POLICY GUIDELINES ON THE USE OF THOSE FUNDS? WELL, I, I THINK, AND SOMEBODY MENTIONED IT EARLIER, I THINK IT'S, UH, BETTER COMMUNICATING, UM, WHAT THE INTENT IS TO THE PUBLIC, WELL, TO THE COUNCIL, AND TO THE PUBLIC ON, ON THE, THE, UH, THE USE OF THAT MONEY AND MAKING SURE THAT, THAT WE'RE A LITTLE BIT, A LITTLE BIT MORE TRANSPARENT, UH, ABOUT WHY WE HAVE A BALANCE LIKE THAT. SO THAT, AND NOT JUST, NOT JUST THE COUNCILMAN COURAGE, BUT ANYBODY THAT GOES ONLINE AND LOOKS UP THE BUDGET KIND OF SEES WHAT THE, WHAT THE STORYLINE IS IN TERMS OF POLICIES OF OTHER RESTRICTED FUNDS. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S EVER COME UP BEFORE. OKAY. BUT, BUT I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD, BASED ON THIS CONVERSATION, IT'S A GOOD THING TO DO AND DOCUMENT AND FRANKLY ADD TO OUR FINANCIAL POLICIES. IT'S PART OF MANAGING THE RESOURCES AND IT'S NOT A, IT'S, IT'S A GOOD THING TO DO. OKAY. AND I WOULD ADD JUST [02:15:01] ONE LAST, UH, ITEM PER THE CITY CHARTER. THE CITY COUNCIL APPROPRIATES, THE ANNUAL BUDGET, UH, WE CANNOT GO BEYOND THAT APPROPRIATION. SO THOSE RESERVES, THE CAPITAL RESERVE, THE OPERATING RESERVES, THOSE ARE NOT APPROPRIATED. SO IF THE CITY MANAGER WANTED TO TAP IN THE UTILIZATION OF THOSE, WE HAVE TO COME BACK TO CITY COUNCIL AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. 'CAUSE WHAT YOU APPROVE AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS, THAT IS THE, UH, SPENDING LIMIT THAT WE HAVE TO RUN THE OPERATIONS OF THE CITY. YEAH. SO FOR ME, THE, THE, AND, AND MAYBE I'M JUST NOT DOING A GOOD JOB EXPLAINING IT, BUT, UH, FOR ME, THE TRADE OFF IS ON THE ONE HAND, BY NOT HAVING POLICIES. WERE VERY FLEXIBLE AND AGILE IN OUR ABILITY TO DEPLOY THAT MONEY WHEREVER IT IS THAT WE NEED IT. UM, ON THE OTHER HAND, BY HAVING THOSE POLICIES, WE DO SPEAK TO THE PUBLIC AND TELL THEM LIKE, THIS IS OUR INTENT, AND THIS IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA HOLD OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T DIP INTO THESE FUNDS FOR THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, WOULD SURPRISE THEM. AND, UH, I, I THINK IT'S PROBABLY MORE IMPORTANT TO NOT SURPRISE THE PUBLIC, UH, THAN IT IS TO PROVIDE OURSELVES FLEXIBILITY. AND SO I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE FOR CONSIDERATION. I MEAN, UH, UM, MAYBE I'M, MAYBE I'M ON, ON A LIMB HERE, UM, YOU KNOW, BY MYSELF, BUT I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME POLICIES, UM, FORMALIZED. THANK YOU. SO WE'RE ON THE FIRST SLIDE AND WE'RE 47 MINUTES IN. SO I'M GONNA ENCOURAGE YOU GUYS JUST TO KEEP, UH, PUSHING THROUGH, BE AS CONCISE AS YOU CAN WITH YOUR COMMENTS. UM, WE HAVE A LONG, WE HAVE A LOT MORE TO DO. WE'RE ONLY ON THE FIRST SLIDE OF MANY THAT WE NEED TO GET THROUGH. SO, UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE, UH, ASKING FOR SOME MORE INFORMATION ABOUT, UM, APPRECIATING FOOTNOTES OVER COMMUNICATE VERSUS UNDER COMMUNICATE WHEN IT COMES TO THESE THINGS. AND YOU HAVE THE, AND THEY'RE BEING, UH, PRESENTED AS A REPORT. UM, THE CONSIDERATION TO MAYBE DO AN ORDINANCE TO TRANSFER, UH, FUNDS TO THE GENERAL FUND, THE TIMING OF, EXCUSE ME, THE TIMING OF WHEN TO TALK ABOUT, UM, THE SEPARATE FUNDS, WHETHER IT'S AIRPORT CONVENTION CENTER, OR PARKING, THE FUNDS FOR THE PARKING POLICE, THAT THAT CAN BE SH UH, SHIFT. WHY WAS IT SHIFTED TO PUBLIC SAFETY? THE ENTERPRISE, UH, FUNDS HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY, MAYBE PUTTING SOME OF THOSE IN BONDS AND REDUCING THE RATES ACROSS THE CITY. THESE ARE JUST THINGS FOR CONSIDERATION AND THEN POLICIES FOR USE FOR THESE CONTINGENCY FUNDS. UH, AND THEN, UH, MANAGER WALSH SAYS, WE DO NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB OF COMMUNICATING THE INTENT OF THOSE FUNDS SO THAT, UM, NOT JUST THE PUBLIC, BUT THE, UH, COUNCIL UNDERSTANDS. SO LET HOW THOSE FUNDS ARE BEING SPENT. LET ME TAKE AN ATTEMPT TO KIND OF STAB AT WHAT I'VE HEARD, AND, AND, AND THAT WAY SOMEBODY CAN TELL ME EITHER I DIDN'T HEAR IT RIGHT. UM, SO WE NEED THE, TO, TO SPEND SOME TIME AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE, UM, SETTING, UM, FINANCIAL POLICIES IN PLACE FOR, UH, THE OPERATING AND CAPITAL RESERVES FOR THE OTHER FUNDS, AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE CLEARLY EXPLAINED, UH, THAT WE LAY OUT, UH, THE INTENT OF SOME OF THAT, UH, SOME OF THOSE FUNDS, THOSE FUNDS, UM, WHERE WE SEE, OR WHERE WE MAY HAVE FLEXIBILITY UTILIZE THAT, THOSE FUNDS. UM, AND, UM, DO, UH, UM, AND, AND, AND DO ALL THIS IN THE, IN THE SENSE, AND ACTUALLY, LET ME ADD, UM, THERE WERE SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT SAID THAT THEY HAVE, THEY'D ASKED ABOUT THIS, UH, LAST SUMMER. UM, CERTAINLY ONE OF MY TAKEAWAYS WOULD BE SO THAT YOU'RE NOT SITTING HERE THIS TIME NEXT YEAR ASKING THE SAME QUESTION. SO WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO INCORPORATE THAT. I NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO INCORPORATE THAT INTO THE, UH, PROCESSES WE GO THROUGH. AND SO THAT'S KIND OF MY TAKEAWAYS FOR THIS SECTION. IF I DIDN'T SUMMARIZE IT GOOD ENOUGH, SOMEBODY LET ME KNOW, BECAUSE I THINK I GOT WHAT I NEEDED. WE'RE GOOD TO GO. I AGREE. EVERYBODY'S OKAY WITH THIS. UM, THE EXISTING, THE WAY IT IS WITH THE INFORMATION REQUESTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE AND WITH THE MANAGER'S UNDERSTANDING, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA GO ONTO THE PROPOSED ONES. PROPERTY TAX RATE MANAGEMENT ANNUALLY, REVIEW THE IMPACT OF THE STATE IMPOSED 3.5% PROPERTY TAX CAP ON SERVICE DELIVERY, AND PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION ON WHETHER TO ADJUST THE PROPERTY TAX RATE. ANY, DOES EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND THE TOPIC, THE RECOMMENDATION THAT'S BEING MADE? ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. SO, UM, WHAT WOULD BE, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT ACCEPTING THIS PROPOSED POLICY AND WHAT WOULD BE THE IMPLICATIONS IF WE DID NOT? WE'RE GOOD WITH IT. THAT'S GOOD. YEAH, KALI. YEAH. SO I'M TRYING TO SEE IF THIS IS WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING ALL ALONG. UM, AND SO, I MEAN, THIS IS OUR, THIS IS OUR JOB. OKAY. AND SO I, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM WITH THIS. THANK YOU FOR THAT. ANYBODY ELSE WANNA MAKE A COMMENT? GOOD JOB. OKAY. WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND KEEP MOVING FORWARD. UM, THE [02:20:01] NEXT ONE IS ANNUALLY REVIEW PROPERTY TAX RELIEF WITH FOCUS ON HOMEOWNERS. LET ME JUST MENTION THAT JUSTINA'S HANDING OUT, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT HAD BEEN REQUESTED, UH, AT LAST WEEK. AND WE, WE, WE NEEDED A LITTLE BIT EXTRA TIME TO DO SOME OF THE MAPPING. SO THIS, UH, THAT INFORMATION THAT JUSTINA'S HANDING OUT RELATES TO, UH, COUNCILMAN VIA GRAND'S QUESTION LAST WEEK REGARDING RE PERTAINING TO WHAT? HOMESTEAD? I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T SEE IT. I JUST HOMESTEADS OH, THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. OKAY. TEE US UP FOR THE NEXT ONE. OKAY. ARE WE OKAY WITH, UM, RE UM, AN ANNUAL REVIEW OF THE PROPERTY TAX RELIEF? ANY, ANY CONCERNS ABOUT ADOPTING THAT? I, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY, UM, ANNUAL REVIEW OF PROPERTY TAX RELIEF THAT INCLUDES THE SOLUTIONS OR JUST OPTIONS. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT INCLUDES OPTIONS AND SOLUTIONS. THANK YOU. ON THE FIRST, UH, WELL, SECOND ONE ON THE, UH, THREE AND A HALF PERCENT TAX CAP. NOW, YOU WERE SAYING THAT DIDN'T COME INTO EFFECT UNTIL 2021, RIGHT? 21, NOT FOR 2020, YES. OKAY. AND THIS WILL BE AN ANNUAL REVIEW. WE WE'RE NOT GOING TO, ARE WE INTENDING TO APPLY THAT THIS YEAR OR NOT APPLY THAT THIS YEAR? NO, SIR. WE, THIS SUMMER WE'LL BE OPERATING UNDER THE CURRENT STATE LAW. OKAY. YES. ALRIGHT, GREAT. OKAY. I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND SKIP DOWN TO, UM, THE FOURTH BULLET ANNUALLY, REVIEW AND PERIODICALLY ADJUST FEES AND CHARGES TO PROVIDE FOR COST RECOVERY, INFLATION AND OR ALIGNMENT WITH COMPARABLE CHARGES. EVERYBODY'S GOOD WITH THAT? WELL, YES, SIR. YEAH, I JUST WANNA POINT OUT, UH, THAT I MENTIONED THAT THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT IS CURRENTLY DOING AN AUDIT, OR WE'RE GONNA BE HIRING SOMEBODY TO DO AN AUDIT THAT I THINK WILL, WILL HELP WITH, WITH, UH, SOME OF THIS. AND THE, THE IDEA IS THAT THERE'S, THERE'S, UH, FOLKS THAT ARE NOT TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE, UM, EXEMPTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE, AND THERE ARE THOSE WHO ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE THAT SHOULD NOT BE. SO THERE'S GONNA BE, UM, SOME ADJUSTMENT THERE. AND I, AND I WOULD, I WOULD JUST SUGGEST THAT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO WORK WITH APPRAISAL DISTRICT IN CONCERT WITH THAT INFORMATION. THANK YOU FOR THAT. YES, SIR. ON, ON THAT ONE. YOU KNOW, THIS IS ALL, IT SOUNDS LIKE ADJUSTING THE FEES UP BECAUSE COST RECOVERY INFLATION OR ALIGNMENT. BUT I, I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT I SOMEHOW TO SHOW OR SAVINGS OR REDUCING THE RATES AND, YOU KNOW, THIS KIND OF CONNOTATES EVERYTHING RISING. WAIT, PROBABLY ONE WAY TO GO. YES. OKAY. WHERE THEY COULD GO DOWN AS WELL. OKAY. MR. GELLE, DID YOU WANNA COMMENT ON THAT? WELL, I'M JUST GONNA COMMENT. WE, WE, WHEN WE PUT THIS ONE TOGETHER, WE SPECIFICALLY, UH, CHOSE THE WORD ADJUST BECAUSE OF THAT. SO WE DIDN'T SAY PERIODICALLY COME IN AND INCREASE FEES, BECAUSE WE KNOW IN SOME CASES THINGS CAN CHANGE. IT DOESN'T HAPPEN THAT OFTEN, BUT IT COULD CHANGE WHERE WE COME IN AND LOOK AT SOMETHING AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE SHOULD PROBABLY LOWER THIS BECAUSE SOMETHING HAS CHANGED. SO THAT WAS PART OF THE REASON WE PUT PERIODICALLY ADJUST. OKAY. BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE FOLLOWING WANTED TO BE A LITTLE MORE FOLLOWING ALL SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GOING UP AND NOT, NOT SAYING THAT IT COULD GO DOWN, RIGHT. ADJUST OR DOWN. I GET THE INTENT. WE CAN CERTAINLY, THAT WAS OUR INTENT. SO WE CAN CERTAINLY WORK ON WORDSMITHING. GOT A LITTLE BIT MORE, JUST TO BE A LITTLE MORE EXPLICIT ABOUT IT COULD POSSIBLY GO DOWN. YES. 'CAUSE ITEMS FOLLOWING IT WOULD BE REASONS FOR INCREASE. EXACTLY. YES, MA'AM. I JUST WANNA, UH, CLARIFY FOR CLARIFICATION, WHAT, WHAT EXACTLY FEES AND CHARGES ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? ALL CITY FEES AND CHARGES? ARE WE TALKING? THAT WOULD BE POINTED AT HIM. . OKAY. SORRY. YES. SO, UH, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT FEES AND CHARGES THAT, THAT THE CITY HAS IN PLACE, SO THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT ALL OF THOSE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. COUNCILMAN SANDOVAL, THANK YOU. UM, I, I CONCUR WITH COUNCILMAN PERRY ON, ON THE LANGUAGE AND MODIFYING THAT LANGUAGE. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE SAY FOR COST RECOVERY, UM, SAVINGS OR CONSUMER SAVINGS OR CONSUMER RELIEF ALONG THOSE LINES, IF HE'S OKAY WITH THAT. BUT I WOULD ALSO ADD ALIGNMENT WITH POLICY GOALS. FOR INSTANCE, ONE OF OUR POLICY GOALS IS TO REDUCE HOW MUCH WE, UM, SEND TO THE LANDFILL. RIGHT? AND SO WE'VE ALIGNED OUR, UM, GREEN CART, OR I'M SORRY, OUR SOLID WASTE FEES ACCORDINGLY TO THAT. AND THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY REFLECTED, UH, THERE. OKAY. I'M SORRY. TO ALIGN WITH, WITH THE POLICY OBJECTIVES. POLICY POLICY OBJECTIVES. OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. SO I'M UNDERSTANDING THAT EVERYBODY'S [02:25:01] OKAY WITH THIS, AND WE'LL, UH, TAKE THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE FINANCE TEAM. YOU GOOD MANAGER? OKAY. MOVING ON. HERE'S THE FUN ONE. PROPERTY TAX RELIEF. THREE OPTIONS HAVE BEEN PRESENTED. THE FIRST ONE IS THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION SCENARIOS. THE SECOND ONE IS INCREASE OVER AGE 65 IN DISABLED EXEMPTIONS. AND THE THIRD ONE IS DECREASE THE CITY'S M N O PROPERTY TAX RATE. IS THAT MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS? YES. OKAY. UM, PROPERTY TAX RATE OF, PLEASE START YOUR CONVERSATION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD BE THE IMPACT OF ACCEPTING THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AS THEY STAND. IS THERE, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANOTHER SLIDE FOR THIS ONE. OH, YEAH, HERE WE GO. UH, THE FOLLOW UP IS PROPERTY TAX SAVINGS. SO, UM, I'M NOT REALLY SURE HOW THIS, BEN, WHY DON'T YOU, THIS WAS A FOLLOW UP. UH, WE DIDN'T, WAS THAT A QUESTION? THAT WAS, IT WAS A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION TO LAST WEEK'S PRESENTATION. OH, OKAY. AND, AND WE DIDN'T HAVE, I THINK THERE WERE SEVERAL QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO THE AREA SCHOOL DISTRICT. SO, UH, THE TEAM GOT WITH, UH, UH, AS MANY SCHOOL DISTRICTS AS THEY COULD TO BE ABLE TO QUANTIFY THIS, AND WE WANTED TO SHARE IT WITH YOU TODAY. SO THIS IS A FOLLOW UP, AS ERIC SAID, FROM, UH, LAST WEEK'S B SESSION. AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS, HOW DOES, UM, HB THREE, THE SCHOOL PROPERTY TAX REFORM BILL, WHAT IS THAT GOING TO DO IN TERMS OF SAVINGS, UH, TO THE, UH, HOMEOWNER? AND SO JEFF COYLE WORKED WITH SOME OF OUR LARGER SCHOOL DISTRICT, WAS ABLE TO GET SOME INFORMATION BACK IN WHICH YOU HAVE ON THE SCREEN BEFORE YOU, IS A TABLE REFLECTING FOR THE MEDIAN HOME IN, UH, S A I SS D NORTHEAST AND NORTH SIDE, UH, DISTRICTS. WHAT THE POTENTIAL OR PROJECTED SAVINGS IS FROM THAT, UH, THAT PROPERTY TAX REFORM BILL. SO AN S A S D ON A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS HOME, THEY'RE EXPECTING ANNUAL SAVINGS OF A HUNDRED DOLLARS, UH, NORTHEAST $233,000 HOME, $163 IN SAVINGS, ANNUAL SAVINGS, AND THEN NORTHSIDE 200,000 WITH ANNUAL SAVINGS OF, OF $140. UM, SO WE WANTED TO PASS THAT INFORMATION ON TO YOU AS WELL. OKAY. I'M GONNA KEEP MOVING, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO STREETS YET, SO WE'LL GO BACK HERE. OKAY. THESE, UH, THE OPTIONS THAT ARE PRESENTED, I KNOW, UM, AT LEAST A COUPLE OF YOU HAVE STRONG FEELINGS ABOUT THIS. DO YOU WANNA STATE YOUR CASE ON IT AND SURE. WE'LL GET THE CONVERSATION GOING. AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE, THAT DATA THAT WAS JUST SHOWN, UH, COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL ASKED FOR THAT TO BE, UH, LOOKED AT. AND, YOU KNOW, WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT MEANINGFUL TAX RELIEF. I THINK, UH, THIS, THAT IS A GREAT STEP FORWARD FROM THE SCHOOL TAXES, BUT WE HAVE THAT CAPABILITY TO ADD TO THAT SAVINGS WITH OUR 20%, UH, TAKE ON THE, ON THE PROPERTY TAXES. WE COULD ADD TO THAT SAVINGS HERE BY THE CITY IN PROVIDING A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. UM, THAT HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION WOULD ALSO GO TO THOSE, UM, AGE 65 AND THE DISABLED EXEMPTIONS. I, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY WOULD, WOULD BE SAVING. AND I THINK IT MAKES IT MORE, UM, MORE SIGNIFICANT AND MAKES IT, IT PLAYS INTO OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IT PLAYS INTO, UM, GIVING OUR HOMEOWNERS AN OPPORTUNITY TO OFFSET SOME OF OUR RISING FEES AND, AND RATES THAT KEEP GOING UP EVERY YEAR. YOU KNOW, WE GOT SAWS, INCREASES, WASTE SEWER, UH, ALL OF THESE THINGS KEEP INCREASING. AND THIS WOULD HELP OFFSET BY THAT HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION OFFERED BY US AND ACROSS THE BOARD. IT WOULD, IT WOULD GO TO EVERYBODY HERE. UNFORTUNATELY, STATE LAW PREVENTS US FROM TARGETING, YOU KNOW, A PARTICULAR AREA. BUT AGAIN, THIS WAS THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT I WAS HIT WITH FOR THE LAST TWO CAMPAIGNS WAS PROPERTY TAX RELIEF. AND WE HAVE THAT CAPABILITY TO OFFER THAT HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION ACROSS THE BOARD TO HELP. AND I DID NOT GET AS MANY, MANY, UH, REQUESTS FROM THOSE THAT WERE OVER 65 OR THE DISABLED, BECAUSE THEIR PROPERTY TAXES ARE FROZEN. THEY'RE FROZEN. SO THE REAL HURT OUT THERE WAS THOSE THAT WERE BELOW 65 ACROSS THE BOARD, HOMEOWNERS, YOUNG HOMEOWNERS, MIDDLE AGED, OLDER FOLKS, YOU KNOW, THEIR TAXES AREN'T GETTING FROZEN. [02:30:01] THEY'RE GETTING NO BREAKS. AND WITH US IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE SCHOOL TAX SAVINGS, I THINK THAT'S BECOMING SIGNIFICANT. AND THEY DON'T PAY THEIR TAXES ON A MONTHLY BASIS. THEY PAY IT ONCE A YEAR AND SAVING 120, 150, $200 A YEAR. THAT'S SIGNIFICANT. AND WE'VE BEEN CALLING FOR SIGNIFICANT PROPERTY TAX RELIEF SINCE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL, BUT WE HAVE YET TO BUY INTO THAT AND ADD TO THAT PROPERTY TAX RELIEF HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. SO AGAIN, UH, THAT WOULD APPLY TO EVERY HOMEOWNER, INCLUDING THE OVER 65 AND DISABLED ACROSS THE CITY, ACROSS THE CITY. SO I'M STILL REALLY PUSHING FOR A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, AT LEAST STARTING ONE, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S 1% OR I WOULD RATHER SEE A 5% TO GIVE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE SUBSTANTIATE SUBSTANTIATION TO ADD TO THE SCHOOL TAX RELIEF. SO I'M STILL PUSHING FOR THAT HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, AND OUR PEOPLE HAVE BEEN CALLING FOR THAT AND CALLING FOR THAT AND CALLING FOR THAT. AND FOR US TO SIT HERE AND IGNORE THAT CALL. WHAT I, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT DIRECTION WE SHOULD BE GOING IN. I'M GONNA GET TO, I'M GONNA ASK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'M GONNA ASK THE MANAGER, UM, JUST IN TERMS OF PROCEDURES SO THAT EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM UNDERSTANDS THE JULY ONE DEADLINE THAT WE'RE FACED FOR THIS. AND THAT'S WHY THE CONVERSATION AROUND IT. YEAH. SO, UM, AND, AND MANY OF YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST WEEK. UM, IF WE, UM, IF THE COUNCIL CHOOSES TO DO, UM, ANY OF THE ITEMS, UM, BULLET ONE AND TWO, THEN WE WOULD NEED, YOU WOULD NEED TO TAKE AN ACTION BY JULY 1ST. UM, SO THE CONVERSATION TODAY WILL BE THE BASIS FOR, UM, WHETHER OR NOT WE, UH, POST A, UH, SPECIAL ITEM ON FOR NEXT WEEK TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT ACTION BEFORE JULY ONE. SO, UH, ELIAS VIA GRAND AND THEN COURAGE. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY, ANNA. I, I, UM, I, I HEARD THE SAME THING FROM MY CONSTITUENTS LOUD AND CLEAR, TWO ELECTION CYCLES. NOW THEY'VE BEEN TELLING ME ABOUT TAX RELIEF. UM, YOU KNOW, I'M A BUSINESS OWNER AND A, AND A HOMEOWNER, AND SO I ALSO WOULD LOVE TO HAVE SOME TAX RELIEF. AT THE SAME TIME, MY CONSTITUENTS, UM, DIDN'T JUST STOP THERE, RIGHT? THEY, THEY'VE BEEN ASKING FOR TAX RELIEF, BUT THEY'VE ALSO BEEN ASKING FOR MORE POLICE OFFICERS, MORE STREETS, MORE SIDEWALKS, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, UH, MORE INVESTMENT IN VIA, UM, AND THERE'S A DISCONNECT SOMETIMES, UH, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'LL PUSH BACK ON MY CONSTITUENTS AND SAY, OKAY, I, I GOT IT RIGHT. YOU KNOW, THAT COSTS MONEY, RIGHT? AND, UH, I, I GET A LOT OF BLANK STARES MM-HMM. , UH, SOMETIMES I GET SOME PEOPLE SAYING, UH, YEAH, BUT YOU KNOW, IF YOU HADN'T MOVED A CONFEDERATE STATUE, THEN WE'D HAVE ALL THAT MONEY. OH, YEAH. AND, UH, AND THAT'S OKAY. I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT EXP THE FUNNY THING IS, IS EVERYBODY'S AN EXPERT IN TAXATION, BUT, UM, NOBODY IS. AND SO, I, I'M WITH YOU. I THINK A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION IS, IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO BECAUSE THE PUBLIC IS CLEARLY ASKING FOR IT. UM, I THINK THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, A HUNDRED DOLLARS SAVINGS OR $140 SAVINGS FOR SOME IS VERY SIGNIFICANT. UM, FOR OTHERS, IT'S, I THINK, WILL GO UNNOTICED. AND, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT ELECTION CYCLE, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO HEAR THE SAME REFRAIN. UH, I SUPPORT YOU IN THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. I'M JUST VERY CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC. UH, I'M SORRY, I'M VERY CAUTIOUSLY PESSIMISTIC ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE REACTION, UH, THAT THIS IS GONNA ELICIT FROM THE PUBLIC. BUT, UM, AND SO I, I, I DO WANNA POINT OUT THOUGH, UM, THAT I THINK IT'S INCUMBENT UPON US THAT WHEN WE GO OUT AND START TALKING ABOUT TAX RELIEF, THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE SAME VIGOR THAT WE'RE GONNA SELL TAX RELIEF, THAT WE ALSO, UH, VIGOROUSLY REMIND PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, THOSE OTHER THINGS THAT THEY WANT, UH, HAVE PRICE TAX. MM-HMM. , THANKS. MM-HMM. , I HAD TO GO TO LAW SCHOOL AND UNDERSTAND INCOME TAX. SO , COUNCILMAN . OKAY. I'M GONNA JUST, SO I'M GOING TO BE CONTINUING TO ADVOCATE, UM, ON THE INCREASE OF OVER 65 AND DISABLED EXEMPTIONS. UM, IN PARTICULAR, RIGHT NOW, I MADE MY CASE LAST WEEK, UM, WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT THE VULNERABLE POPULATIONS, I KNOW IN MY COMMUNITY, ONE OF THE LARGEST VULNERABLE POPULATIONS, AT LEAST IN LEGACY, UM, NEIGHBORHOODS, ARE THOSE WHO ARE OVER 65. AND WE JUST HAD A STATUS OF WOMEN REPORT COME OUT WHERE 63% OF THOSE WHO ARE 80 AND 84 YEARS OLD, UM, ARE WOMEN. AND THAT 71% ARE WIDOWS. AND THAT WOMEN FEMALE HEAD WITHOUT HUSBAND HOMEOWNERS IS 50.4% IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. [02:35:02] AND THAT'S EVEN HIGHER THAN THE OTHER CITY. SO WE HAVE THE HIGHEST HOME OWNERSHIP OF WOMEN, FEMALES, HEAD WITHOUT, UH, WITHOUT A HUSBAND, FEMALE HEAD OF HOUSEHOLDS. SO IF I'M LOOKING THAT THE MAJORITY OF POPULATION IS A CERTAIN AGE, AND WE HAVE THIS REPORT THAT WANTS TO FUND AND WANTS TO OUTLINE OUR PRIORITIES AS A COMMUNITY, I WOULD LIKE TO REACH OVER AND, AND LOOK AT THAT POPULATION, UM, THE OVER AGE 65 AND DISABLED EXEMPTIONS TO INCREASE THAT FROM 65 TO 75,000, UM, IN A PHASED, IN A PHASED APPROACH. I UNDERSTAND. AND I THINK THIS WOULD BE MAKING A BIGGER IMPACT FOR A VULNERABLE POPULATION INSTEAD OF THE, THE WIDE RANGE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT A, A BIGGER CASTING OF A NET RIGHT NOW. OKAY. SO YOU, SO THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM. OKAY. YOU WANT IT FOCUSED ON THE 65 AND DISABLED EXTENSIONS GETTING MORE? YES. FIVE TO 75,000. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL. UH, THANK YOU. UH, I, UH, I WANTED TO GO BACK TO COUNCILMAN, UH, PERRY'S INITIAL, UH, STATEMENT AND THEN, UH, FOLLOW UP IN TERMS OF THE PROPERTY TAX RELIEF. I THINK IT TIES INTO SOME LEVEL OF, OF MORE AFFORDABILITY FOR, UH, WHETHER THEY'RE HOMEOWNERS OR THEIR RENTERS. AND I THINK PROPERTY TAX RELIEF IS ONE WAY TO, TO HELP. I THINK WE HAVE OTHER TOOLS TO HELP, UH, PEOPLE LIVE AFFORDABLY THAT WE SHOULD ALSO BE EXPLORING. UM, I DO AGREE ALSO THAT IT'S TOO BAD WE CAN'T USE MORE OF A SCALPEL, UH, IN, IN DOING THIS REALLY. WE HAVE SOME VERY BLUNT TOOLS, UH, WITH WHAT KIND OF TAX, UH, SAVINGS WE CAN PROVIDE. UM, I WOULD SUPPORT AN OVER AGE 65 INCREASE IN EXEMPTION, UM, IN TERMS OF A BLANKET, UM, ADDITION, HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. UM, IT, I DON'T FEEL THAT IT HELPS OUR, UH, OUR RENTERS KEEP THEIR HOUSING MORE AFFORDABLE. UM, I ALSO THINK IT BRINGS A MORE SIGNIFICANT IMPACT TO OUR BUDGET. UM, SO I DON'T, WE'RE NOT REALLY SET UP FOR A DIALOGUE. SO MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING I CAN DO OFFLINE WITH COUNCILMAN PERRY, BUT I THINK, I THINK THE RECOMMENDATION I'M HEARING ON, ON TAX RELIEF IS REDUCING OUR BUDGET AS A CITY. AND THAT, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING I'M NOT PREPARED TO, TO SUPPORT, UM, AT THIS POINT BECAUSE I THINK I'M NOT PREPARED TO SUPPORT REDUCTION OF, OF SERVICES THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. UM, AND I SEE BEN COMING UP TO THE MIC. . WELL, I JUST, UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU ADDITIONAL CONTEXT, WE DID INCLUDE IN YOUR NOTEBOOK, UNDER TAB, UH, NUMBER TWO, THE POWERPOINT FROM LAST WEEK'S B SESSION. SO IF YOU GO TO PAGE NUMBER 10, OR SLIDE NUMBER 10, YOU'LL SEE THE IMPACT OF THE OVER 8 65 AND DISABLED EXEMPTION. MM-HMM. , UM, GOING FROM 65,000 TO 75,000, YOU CAN SEE THERE WOULD BE ABOUT A $4 MILLION IMPACT TO THE GENERAL FUND IN THAT CASE. AND THEN IF YOU FLIP TO THE FOLLOWING PAGE ON SLIDE 12, WE HAVE LISTED FOR YOU THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS SCENARIO OPTIONS, UH, RANGING FROM THE MINIMUM UNDER STATE LAW, WHICH IS THE $5,000. UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT ONE HAS ABOUT A $3.6 MILLION IMPACT TO THE GENERAL FUND, ABOUT 2.2 MILLION TO OUR DEBT SERVICE FUND. SO THAT WOULD IMPACT CAPACITY GOING FORWARD. AND THEN WE HAVE THE SAME INFORMATION LISTED THERE FOR A 5%, 10%, AND 20% OPTION, WHICH IS THE MAXIMUM. AND THEN ON SLIDE 13 IS THE IMPACT IF YOU WERE TO, IN FACT REDUCE THE M O TAX RATE. OKAY. AND, AND ON THE M O TAX RATE, I'LL GIVE YOU ADDITIONAL CONTEXT ON SB TWO WHEN IT COMES INTO PLAY IN 2021. REMEMBER THAT IN ANY YEAR, IN ANY YEAR WHERE THE THREE POINT HALF PERCENT WHERE OUR GROWTH ON BASE VALUES EXCEEDS 3.5%, WHICH WOULD'VE BEEN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, THE M O TAX RATE WILL DECLINE, OR YOU'LL HAVE TO CALL ON ELECTION. SO THAT TAX RATE WILL BE FALLING OVER TIME AS, AS BASE VALUES GROW MORE THAN THREE POINT A HALF PERCENT. OKAY. COUNCILMAN TRIVIO, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? I DO, BUT I DON'T THINK SHE'S DONE. OH, YEAH. UM, OKAY. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A 4 MILLION OR POSSIBLY A 12.7 MILLION REDUCTION IF WE DO A, AN OVER 65 EXEMPTION. UM, I'D WANT TO SEE WHAT STAFF RECOMMENDS REDUCING, UH, IF WE'RE, IF WE WERE TO ADOPT SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OH, I GUESS WE HAVE TO DECIDE, YEAH. IMMEDIATELY IS THAT, WELL, WE WOULD HAVE TO KNOW FOR AN OPTION TO EITHER DO AN INCREASE IN THE OVER EIGHT OR TO CHANGE THE EXEMPTIONS FOR THE OVER 8 65 OR DISABLED, OR TO PUT A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION IN PLACE, YOU HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION BY JULY 1ST. YOU ALL WOULD HAVE TO ACT AS A BODY. MM-HMM. . SO AS ERIC MENTIONED, THE CITY MANAGER MENTIONED, IF Y'ALL WANTED TO DO THAT, WE WOULD NEED TO CALL A SPECIAL MEETING FOR NEXT WEEK. AND YOU ALL WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE AN ITEM TO DO THAT. OKAY. SO THIS IS TOUGH BECAUSE WE JUST APPROVED OUR FISCAL POLICIES, . RIGHT. WHICH IS, AND WHICH [02:40:01] MEANS WE CAN'T REALLY MESS WITH THE CONTINGENCY, WHICH IS WHAT I WOULD'VE RECOMMENDED DOING IF WE WERE GONNA GO WITH A 12.7, UH, OR WITH A HUNDRED THOUSAND, NOTHING STOPS YOU FROM, NOTHING STOPS YOU FROM THROWING OUT IDEAS. I THINK COUNCILWOMAN OKAY. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. ALRIGHT. SO I'D, I'D BE SUPPORTIVE OF THE OVER 65 EXEMPTION, BUT I WOULD NOT BE SUPPORTIVE OF A, OF A WHOLESALE, UH, UM, I'M SORRY. EXEMPTION FOR EVERY HOME. YEAH. THE HOMESTEAD E EXEMPTION. THERE'S JUST TOO, TOO MANY SERVICES THAT, THAT I WOULDN'T BE WILLING TO CUT FOR THAT. THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION. IS A 65 AND DISABLED COUPLE TOGETHER REGARDLESS? NO. OKAY. SO YOU'RE SAYING 65 AND OVER ONLY. OKAY. JUST TO, I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR ON THAT. UH, TREVINO AND THEN, OH, I'M SORRY. COURAGE, YOU WERE NEXT. AND THEN TREVINO AND THEN GONZALEZ. THANK YOU. UH, I SUPPORT A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF POSITIVE REASONS TO DO THIS. UM, LET ME ASK A, A QUESTION FROM, UH, BEN. ON PAGE, ON SLIDE NUMBER 12, YOU, YOU SHOW THE ANNUAL TAX SAVINGS TO THE HOMEOWNER. YES, SIR. UH, AND YOU SHOW THE COST TO THE CITY. AND, UH, FOR THE ORIGINAL ONE, WE HAVE AT 1% $5,000 DEDUCTION. UH, YOU SAY THE COST TO THE, THE REVENUE LOSS TO THE CITY IS 5,868,000, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. NOW, WOULD THAT HELP LOWER OUR 2021 TAX BASE? WOULD OUR TAX BASE GO DOWN IF WE GAVE THAT KIND OF AN EXEMPTION? 'CAUSE WE'RE COLLECTING LESS. WHEN YOU SAY TAX BASE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR TAX LEVY? YEAH, OUR LEVY YES. WOULD GO DOWN. IT WOULD GO DOWN. UH, AND SO WE'RE ACTUALLY HELPING OURSELVES STAY UNDER THE CAP OF THREE POINT A HALF PERCENT BY AT LEAST FIVE OR $6 MILLION. NO, LEMME, LEMME CLARIFY. I MISUNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU WERE ASKING ME. I APOLOGIZE. OH, UM, THE, THE CAP, UM, IS IN PLACE OUTSIDE OF THE EXEMPTION, RIGHT? SO THE CAP IS IN PLACE TO SAY THAT BASE VALUE EXISTING PROPERTIES CAN'T GROW BY MORE THAN 3.5%. IF IT'S HIGHER THAN 3.5%, IT FORCES A REDUCTION IN THE TAX RATE. SO THE VALUES OR THE AMOUNT OF TAX COLLECTED CAN'T GO UP MORE THAN THREE POINT HALF PERCENT. IT IS, IN ESSENCE, IT IS, THE AMOUNT OF TAX COLLECTED WILL NOT GO UP BY MORE THAN 3.5%. IT'S DOING IT THROUGH THE RATES. SO WE GIVE A TAX EXEMPTION, THEN THEIR VALUE COMES DOWN. SO WE COLLECT NEXT LESS TAXES BY $5.8 MILLION. UH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A SEPARATE PIECE. YOU, YOU TAKE LAST YEAR'S, UM, REVENUE AND YOU GO THROUGH, UH, A SERIES OF CALCULATIONS THAT TALK ABOUT THE SENIOR FREEZE, OTHER ITEMS, EXEMPTIONS IF YOU PUT A HOMESTEAD IN PLACE. BUT THAT BASE FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR ON BASE PROPERTIES, NOT INCLUDING NEW IMPROVEMENTS, IS CAPPED AT 3.5%. AND SO WHAT IT'LL DO IS IF IT COMES IN HIGHER THAN THAT, IT WILL, IT WILL ACTUALLY, UM, REDUCE THE M O TAX RATE. THE HOMESTEAD WILL BE IN ADDITION TO THE REDUCTION IN THE TAX RATE THAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE. I UNDERSTAND THAT. I WAS KIND OF THINKING MORE TOWARD 2021 AS OPPOSED TO NEXT YEAR. RIGHT. WELL, I MEANT 2021. SO WHEN THIS IS IN PLACE, THE HOMESTEAD LOSS OF REVENUE WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO WHATEVER WE LOSE BECAUSE OF A CAP, BECAUSE WE'VE GONE OVER THE THREE AND A HALF. I'LL HAVE TO SIT DOWN AND TALK WITH YOU ABOUT THAT SO THAT WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE. YES, SIR. BUT LET ME BRING THIS UP TOO. UH, YOU PRESENTED TO US, UH, A LOOK AT A SNAPSHOT OF 1%, 5%, 10%, 20%. IF WE DID IT IN ONE YEAR, WHAT I WAS HOPING TO SEE WAS A PLAN FOR GRADUALLY INCREASING HOUSING TAX EXEMPTIONS THAT WOULD SHOW, LET'S SAY 2021, WHAT THAT WOULD BE, AND 2020 OR 2020, WHAT IT WOULD BE, WHAT IT WOULD COST US. AND THEN 2022, WHAT IT WOULD COST US IF WE WENT UP TO, LET'S SAY FIVE AND THEN 20, 23 UP TO 10, AND THEN 20, 24 UP TO 15, AND THEN 20, 25 MAYBE ARRIVE AT 20. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU JUST LOOK AT THE NUMBERS HERE AND YOU SAY, WELL, IT'S GONNA COST US $47 MILLION IF WE DO A 20% EXEMPTION RIGHT NOW. WELL, WE, WE COULDN'T DO THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT WHAT WOULD BE THE ACTUAL IMPACT ON EACH BUDGET? BUDGET BY BUDGET? IT'D BE MUCH MORE GRADUAL AND PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT WE COULD BUILD INTO A BUDGET FORECAST OVER FOUR OR FIVE YEARS INSTEAD OF LOOKING THESE HUGE NUMBERS THAT IF WE DID IT TODAY, THIS IS HOW IT'S GONNA HURT US. AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT PROGRESSION OF, IF WE WENT FROM ONE TO FIVE TO 10 TO 15 TO 20 OVER FIVE YEARS, WHAT WOULD THAT, WHAT WOULD THAT IMPACT BE TO OUR, UH, BUDGET EACH YEAR BASED ON OUR FORECAST, WHICH YOU ALREADY HAVE IN OUR FIVE YEAR PLAN. AND I THINK WE'RE GONNA SEE, IT'S, [02:45:01] IT'S NOT GONNA COST US 10 OR $15 MILLION ADDITIONAL EACH YEAR, BUT IT IS GOING TO BE OBVIOUSLY ADDITIONAL CUTS IN OUR, IN OUR, UH, INCOME EACH YEAR. BUT I THINK THAT THIS IS ALL PART OF SOMETHING THAT WE, THAT YOU'VE HEARD COUNCIL MEMBERS SAY, WE'VE BEEN ASKED ABOUT. AND IT'S PART OF EVEN OUR, OUR HOUSING PLAN. WE'VE HEARD IN OUR HOUSING PLAN THAT WE'RE LOSING HOME OWNERSHIP IN THIS CITY, THAT IT IS DECLINING. AND ONE OF THOSE CONTRIBUTING FACTORS IS PEOPLE THINK OUR TAXES ARE TOO HIGH AND THEY CONTINUE TO GO UP. YES, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S MAKING AN IMPORTANT IMPACT, BUT I BELIEVE THE CITY NEEDS TO PRESENT THE SAME KIND OF GOODWILL AND SINCERITY TO OUR CITIZENS THAT WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND BE A PART OF THAT TAX RELIEF THAT PEOPLE DESERVE IF THEY WANNA BUY A HOME AND MAINTAIN A HOME AND KEEP A HOME. NOW, THERE'S NOTHING TO SAY THAT IF WE ADOPT A PLAN SAYING IT'S 1% ONE YEAR AND FIVE THE NEXT AND 10 THE NEXT, THAT WE CAN'T SAY BECAUSE OF EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES, DEPENDING ON WHAT OUR FINANCIAL CONDITIONS ARE, THAT WE SAY, OKAY, WE'RE NOT GONNA EXTEND IT A WHOLE 5%. WE'LL DO THREE THIS YEAR AND MAYBE A LITTLE MORE NEXT YEAR. IN OTHER WORDS, WE STILL MAINTAIN OUR RIGHT AS A COUNCIL TO CONTINUE TO APPROVE A GROWTH PLAN. BUT I THINK WE NEED TO SEE A REASONABLE PLAN, AND I THINK WE NEED TO SEE IT NEXT WEEK SO WE CAN, AS A COUNCIL, DECIDE DOES THIS PLAN LOOK REASONABLE FOR US TO IMPLEMENT? AND, UM, WHEN IT, WHEN IT COMES TO GIVING A $10,000 EXISTING EXEMPTION OR ADDITIONAL EXEMPTION FOR SENIORS AND, AND DISABLED, THAT EXEMPTION WILL BE GONE IN A YEAR BECAUSE THEIR HOUSE VALUES GO UP, YOU KNOW, FIVE OR $10,000 AT LEAST EVERY YEAR. SO YOU GIVE 'EM A $10,000 EXEMPTION NOW, TWO YEARS, THAT'S GONE. SO, BUT YOU GIVE THEM REAL TAX RELIEF YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT AND YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT, THAT THAT'S GONNA BE A LOT MORE VALUABLE FOR THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO ARE ASKING FOR TAX RELIEF. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND WE CAN CERTAINLY, UM, WORK ON, I WANTED TO ADD ONE CLARIFICATION. WE CAN CERTAINLY ADD ON WORK ON THAT PLAN IF, IF THAT'S THE DESIRE OF THE COUNCIL, IF YOU WANNA MOVE FORWARD WITH THE HOMESTEAD. I DID WANNA POINT OUT THE FIRST OPTION WE GAVE YOU IS A 10TH OF A PERCENT. IT'S TO GET TO THAT MINIMUM UNDER, UNDER STATE LAW OF $5,000. AND THEN IF WE TAKE THE FORECAST AND, AND WE LAYER IN SOME PLAN, IN SOME RESPECTS, IT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT OF A MATHEMATICAL EXERCISE. 'CAUSE THE OTHER PART THAT'S COMPETING AGAINST THAT ARE YOUR OTHER POLICY ISSUES. SO IF YOU RECALL, WE PRESENTED THE FORECAST, WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF BALANCED A LITTLE BIT FOR NEXT YEAR, NOT MUCH SPENDING, BUT THAT'S, WITHOUT THOSE POLICY ISSUES, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, MORE POLICE, MORE FIRE. UM, SO WE CAN RUN THAT. BUT JUST WITH ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT, ARE YOUR COMPETING MM-HMM. PRIORITIES AS A COUNCIL IN TERMS OF THINGS YOU MAY WANT TO ADD FROM A POLICY PERSPECTIVE, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY WORK ON SOMETHING. THANK YOU, SIR. UH, COUNCILMAN TREVINO. THANK YOU, SONYA. UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND I, I AGREE. I MEAN, WE, WE HEAR THIS A LOT WHEN IT COMES TO PROPERTY TAX RELIEF AND, UH, CERTAINLY WILL SUPPORT, UH, FINDING A WAY TO HELP, UH, ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE, THE PRESSURES. BUT I, YOU KNOW, I TOO WANNA POINT OUT THAT 47% OF OUR COMMUNITY RENTS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I, THAT'S, THAT'S A REALLY BIG ISSUE FOR ME, UH, BECAUSE I, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE REPRESENTED HERE AT ALL. AND, UH, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT AFFORDABILITY, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S HALF OUR COMMUNITY THAT MAY OR MAY NOT, UH, THEN EXPERIENCE SOME PRESSURE BECAUSE WHEN YOU RELIEVE SOME PRESSURE IN ONE PLACE, YOU'RE GONNA INCREASE PRESSURE IN ANOTHER PLACE. AND SO I WANT THE CITY TO LOOK INTO THAT. UM, THIS IS, THIS IS SO IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF, YES, WE COULD PROVIDE SOME TAX RELIEF, UM, TO, TO, TO THOSE, UH, HOMESTEADS, BUT HOW DOES THAT AFFECT RENTERS AND, AND AFFORDABILITY OF, OF SIMPLE THINGS, UM, LIKE APARTMENTS. UM, THE OTHER THING THAT I WANNA POINT OUT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S, WE, WE, WE DEFINITELY WANNA LOOK AT THE IMPACT OF, OF, UH, THESE NUMBERS, BUT WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT UNDERSTANDING ALSO THAT, UM, IN THE, IN THIS CITY, WE HAVE 15,000 PARCELS THAT ARE NOT TAXED AT ALL. AND I WANT THE CITY TO LOOK INTO THAT AS WELL. THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT HAS CONSTANTLY TALKED ABOUT HOW, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF UNTAXED PROPERTY, UM, YOU KNOW, THE CITY SETTING AN EXAMPLE WITH, WITH THE FROST TOWER, HOW WE'RE BRINGING IN A LOT OF OUR, UH, [02:50:01] DEPARTMENTS AND SERVICES INTO, INTO ONE SINGLE BUILDING, WHICH I THINK IS A GOOD THING. IT'S A SMART MOVE, BUT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN IN TERMS OF HOW WE'RE GETTING RID OF SOME OF OUR, OUR PROPERTIES? ARE WE SELLING 'EM OFF TO, TO TAXABLE ENTITIES, UH, THAT THAT CAN GET BACK ON THOSE ROLES? AND HOW CAN WE SET THE EXAMPLE FOR OTHER ENTITIES, OTHER GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES THAT SHOULD BE DOING THE SAME? YOU KNOW, THAT'S, I THINK, A BALANCED APPROACH. I THINK WE CAN PROVIDE SOME RELIEF WHERE IT'S NEEDED, BUT ALSO BE SMART ABOUT THE FACT THAT THEY'RE JUST A, THERE'S A LOT OF LAND, THERE'S A LOT OF PROPERTIES THAT ARE NOT EVEN TAXED, NOT ONE DIME. AND, UH, AND SO I, I THINK THE, THE CITY, UH, NEEDS TO REPORT THAT TO US IN TERMS OF HOW THIS INFORMATION IS APPLIED. BECAUSE RIGHT HERE YOU'RE JUST KIND OF GETTING ONE FRACTION OF THE IMPACT. THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT MORE. I, MY FIELD OFFICE IS IN A, IN AN OLD FIRE STATION, AND I THINK I WAS TOLD THAT, THAT THE, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS ONE OF THE LARGEST OWNERS OF PROPERTY IN THE CITY. IS THAT CORRECT? YEP. OKAY. MORE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAN ANYBODY ELSE. MORE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAN ANYBODY ELSE. AND SO, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT CREATIVE WAYS TO, TO SEE HOW CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT CITY PROPERTY, UH, HOW CAN WE INFLUENCE OTHER GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES TO, TO SAY, LOOK, THESE THINGS NEED TO GET BACK ON THE TAX ROLLS SOMEHOW IF WE'RE NOT USING THEM, LET'S, LET'S, LET'S GET 'EM BACK ON THE TAX ROLLS. UH, I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING, AND WE CAN'T IGNORE THAT AND, AND THEN TRY TO SQUEEZE SOMETHING OUT OF, OUT OF A ROCK. YES. I'M TOTALLY WINDED UP BOTTOM LINE. I, I, I THINK THAT THERE, THERE'S A LOT MORE INFORMATION HERE. I UNDERSTAND, UH, CLAYTON, WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM. AND I, AND I AGREE WITH YOU, THE ONE THING WE CAN CONTROL HERE AS A CITY IS OUR TAX RATE, BUT WE CAN ALSO CONTROL THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE NOT ON THE TAX ROLLS. AND WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THAT AND SET THE EXAMPLE FOR OTHER TAXING ENTITIES THAT, THAT REALLY CONTRIBUTE TO THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GONZALEZ HAVADA, AND THEN THE MAYOR. UM, OKAY, WELL, I, I MADE MY COMMENTS ABOUT THIS IN THE B SESSION, UM, A FEW DAYS AGO. I JUST FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD JUST HOLD ON AND NOT MAKE ANY CHANGES, GIVEN STILL A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY THAT'S BEFORE US. SO, UM, I STILL HAVEN'T CHANGED MY PO POSITION ON THAT, BUT I FEEL LIKE I BETTER MAKE IT KNOWN IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE A SPECIAL MEETING TO DECIDE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HAVE RITA , YOU KNOW, WE ALL KNOCKED ON DOOR AFTER DOOR, AND NO MATTER WHICH NEIGHBORHOOD WE WERE IN, UM, THE PEOPLE OF, AT LEAST MY DISTRICT MADE IT VERY CLEAR THEIR NUMBER ONE ISSUE WAS PROPERTY TAX RELIEF. SO I, I, YOU KNOW, OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, UM, OPINIONS ARE DULY NOTED. I, I COULD SUPPORT A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION ACROSS THE BOARD, BUT WITH A SENSE OF CONSTERNATION, UM, THE, TO THE IMPLICATIONS OF OUR BUDGET. I, I HAVE A REAL CONCERN ABOUT THAT. AND I MEAN, ACROSS THE BOARD, UM, INCLUDING SENIORS AND DISABLED INDIVIDUALS. UM, I, IN THE PRESENTATION THAT YOU GAVE LAST WEEK, BEN, THERE WERE THE POTENTIAL DEFICITS TO OUR BUDGET, AND THEY'RE IMPACTFUL. I'M EVEN LOOKING AT THE 0.01 AS A TOTAL REVENUE, REVENUE LOSS OF CLOSE TO 6 MILLION. THAT'S CORRECT. AND I THINK THAT THAT COULD BE, I MEAN, CLEARLY THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA HAVE A, UM, AN IMPACT ON OUR, ON THE, ON OUR OTHER CITY SERVICES. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE CITY SERVICES TO, TO MANNY'S POINT, THEY, THEY TALK ABOUT FIRE, THEY TALK ABOUT POLICE, THEY TALK ABOUT STREET DRAINAGE, BUT THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE THEY BROUGHT UP TO ME WAS, UH, PROPERTY TAX RELIEF. SO I, I DO WANNA GO BACK TO MY NEIGHBORHOODS AND TALK ABOUT, I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME MORE SCENARIOS OF, OF WHAT EXACTLY, UM, LIKE SOME KIND OF ILLUSTRATION. OKAY, WELL, YOU GET THIS 0.1 EXEMPTION AND WE LOSE 6 MILLION TO OUR BUDGET. THAT MEANS THAT THIS PARTICULAR KIND OF PROJECT CAN'T HAPPEN. I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO GO BACK INTO MY NEIGHBORHOODS AND TALK ABOUT WHAT EXACTLY, UM, HOW, WHAT, WHAT IT'LL LOOK LIKE TO THEM. SO MAYBE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, AN ANSWER FOR ANOTHER DAY. BUT, UM, THAT'S WHERE I AM ON IT. I THINK THAT, UH, I, I WILL SUPPORT A FULL HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, UM, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT THE PEOPLE ARE TELLING ME THAT THAT'S THEIR MAIN CONCERN. OKAY. SO I HAD, UM, THE MAYOR AND THEN ADRIANA, AND THEN MS. SULLIVAN. I JUST, I KNOW ADRIANA, SO I PROBABLY SHOULDN'T CALL YOU YOUR FIRST NAME, BUT GO AHEAD, MAYOR. THANK YOU. I, I THINK THE REASON WHY THIS IS SO CHALLENGING IS BECAUSE OF A POINT THAT COUNCILMAN SANDOVAL BROUGHT UP EARLIER, WHICH IS THAT, UH, SO LITTLE OF OUR BUDGET, WHICH IS SO LITTLE OF YOUR TAX BILL, IS ACTUALLY FLEXIBLE HERE WITH REGARD TO A TAX RELIEF SCENARIO. AND, AND WE DO, UH, LIKE EVERYONE ELSE WANNA OFFER, UH, AS MUCH TAX RELIEF AS POSSIBLE. [02:55:01] UM, BUT EVEN IF WE DO, UM, WHATEVER WE DO, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK TO THOSE DOORS NEXT YEAR AND TELL THEM, UM, THAT WE'VE OFFERED AN EXEMPTION, BUT THEIR TAXES HAVE ACTUALLY GONE UP BECAUSE OF VALUATIONS AND BECAUSE OF THOSE VALUATIONS DRIVING THE EFFECTIVE TAX RATE. UM, THE EFFECTIVE TAX RATE, OF COURSE, IS THE, THE REFLECTION OF THE VALUES PLUS THE, THE M AND O. SO I HAVE A, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, UH, BEN, UM, WE JUST ESSENTIALLY HAVE ADOPTED A NEW POLICY TO EVALUATE THE M AND O RATE, UH, BASED ON OUR YEAR TO YEAR GROWTH, AND THE NEW CHALLENGE OF, OF SB TWO AND THE ROLLBACK RATE GOING DOWN TO 3.5%. UM, WHAT IS OUR M AND O RATE COMPARED TO OTHER MAJOR TEXAS CITIES? LEMME GRAB THAT. UH, MAYOR. SO IN, IN, UH, AUSTIN, THEIR M AND O TAX RATE'S ABOUT 33 CENTS. UH, HOUSTON JUST UNDER 42 CENTS. UM, DALLAS IS AT 50, ALMOST 56 AND A HALF CENTS. FORT WORTH IS 63 CENTS. EL PASO IS AT 56 CENTS, AND CORPUS IS IN A LITTLE UNDER 41 CENTS. AND WHERE ARE WE? OUR M AND O IS 34, UH, AND A HALF CENTS ROUGHLY. SO WE HAVE ONE OF THE LOWEST M AND O RATES OF THE STATE. THAT'S CORRECT. UM, WE ALSO HAVE ONE OF THE LOWEST TAX BASES OF THE STATE IN TERMS OF ASSESSED VALUE. YES. WHICH RESULTS IN A, IN A FAIRLY SMALL AMOUNT OF REVENUE FOR US TO DELIVER ESSENTIAL SERVICES, YET WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO BACK TO OUR RESIDENTS AND TELL 'EM THAT THEIR, THEIR EFFECTIVE TAX RATE HAS GONE UP EVEN THOUGH WE, UH, IN YEARS PAST HAVE HELD THE RATE STEADY OR ACTUALLY LOWERED THE TAX RATE. THIS IS THE DEBATE WE GET ON WITH FOLKS WHERE WE SAY, WE ACTUALLY LOWERED THE TAX RATE, BUT YOUR TAXES WENT UP BECAUSE YOUR ASSESSED VALUES HAVE GONE UP AND THE EFFECTIVE TAX RATE HAS GONE UP. SO, UM, I, I TAKE, UH, I'M LISTENING TO ALL THE COMMENTS, UH, THAT WE'VE HAD OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS AS IT RELATES TO TAX RELIEF, AND WE ALL WANT TARGETED TAX RELIEF. WE KNOW THERE ARE MEMBERS IN OUR COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY DISABLED, UH, OLDER RESIDENTS, LEGACY RESIDENTS WHO HAVE BEEN IN THEIR HOMES FOR A LONG TIME AND ARE ON FIXED INCOME, UH, RENTERS WHO ACTUALLY, UH, ARE DESPERATELY NEEDING RELIEF AND THEY'RE ON THE BUBBLE. I MEAN, THEY MAY BE ON THE VERGE OF BEING DISPLACED BECAUSE THEIR TAXES HAVE GONE UP OR THEIR RENTS HAVE GONE UP. AND SO FOR ONE OF THOSE, RE FOR THAT REASON, I DO SUPPORT A TARGETED TAX RELIEF. AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE, THE, THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. UM, BUT I ALSO AM COGNIZANT OF THE FACT THAT EVEN IF WE OFFER THAT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SAY THAT THE TAX EFFECTIVE TAX RATE HAS GONE UP ONCE AGAIN. SO WHAT WOULD THE, UH, WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE FOR US IF WE WERE ABLE TO OFFER THAT EXEMPTION, UH, AND TARGET IT TO THE PEOPLE WHO NEEDED IT THE MOST, UM, WITH A HOMESTEAD, BUT ALSO WE, UH, ADJUSTED OUR TAX RATE, UM, SO THAT WE DON'T EXCEED THE ROLLBACK, BUT WE'RE MORE REFLECTIVE OF THE GROWTH THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE COMMUNITY. UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE THIS YEAR, JUST NATURALLY WHERE THE OLD POLICY IS, BUT WHAT ARE THE SCENARIOS WE COULD LOOK AT TO PERHAPS PROVIDE THE SERVICES THAT ARE NEEDED, BUT ALSO SIMULTANEOUSLY PROVIDE THE RELIEF THAT PEOPLE WANT? MARILYN, MAKE SURE I, I, UH, FOLLOWED YOU THERE. SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE, WE HAVE NOT RUN THAT SCENARIO, BUT I THINK THE SCENARIO YOU JUST DESCRIBED WOULD BE TO LOOK AT AN OPTION OF INCREASING THE M AND O TAX RATE WITHIN THE, SO TWO YEARS AGO ROLLBACK RATE. YEAH. TWO YEARS AGO, OR THREE YEARS AGO, WE REDUCED OUR, OUR, UM, M AND O RATE FROM, WHAT WAS IT, 3.36? UM, ACTUALLY IT WAS 0.35419, AND WE WENT DOWN TO 34, SO THAT WAS 0.3 4, 6 7. SO THAT WAS IN 2016. 2016 WE'D, 'CAUSE WE EXCEEDED THE 8% ROLLBACK RATE. YES, SIR. SO WHAT IF, BUT, BUT ESSENTIALLY WE REDUCED THE TAX RATE, BUT EVERYBODY KNEW THAT THE, THE EFFECTIVE TAX RATE WENT UP BECAUSE OF THE ASSESSED VALUES. WE'RE IN A SIMILAR SITUATION THIS YEAR, BUT KIND OF IN REVERSE. SO WHAT IF THE, THE M AND O RATE WENT UP, BUT WE OFFERED A NEW EXEMPTION FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE NEEDING THE RELIEF, BUT WE DIDN'T IMPAIR OUR ABILITY TO DELIVER THE SERVICES AT THE SAME TIME, UH, BASED ON WHAT I'VE SEEN FROM THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT SO FAR, YOU WOULD HAVE, UH, ROOM TO DO THAT. I, I DO NOT EXPECT THAT WE'LL BE CLOSE TO THE 8% ROLLBACK RATE THIS YEAR WOULD PROBABLY BE, UM, GONNA, TROY MAYBE AROUND FOUR, FOUR AND A HALF IS I THINK WHAT WE'RE THINKING OR BE BETWEEN FOUR AND FIVE. SO YOU DO HAVE [03:00:01] THE ABILITY AS A COUNSEL, YOU COULD INCREASE THE M AND O TAX RATE, UM, AND THEN OFFER AN EXEMPTION. OKAY. AND, AND, AND THIS WOULD BE, NOT RUN THAT OPTION, BUT WE COULD, I'D LIKE TO SEE THOSE SCENARIOS BECAUSE I, I KNOW SEVERAL OTHER CITIES ARE, ARE PERHAPS, UM, THINKING ABOUT THAT, BUT, AND THEY'RE DOING IT IN RESPONSE TO THE FACT THAT WE KNOW WE'RE, OUR GROWTH IS NOT A STEADY STRAIGHT LINE. IT FLUCTUATES. AND STARTING NEXT YEAR IN, IN YEARS WHERE WE GROW AND WE KNOW SAN ANTONIO IS GOING TO GROW, UH, AND OUR SERVICES ARE GONNA BE IN MORE DEMAND AND WE'VE GOT OTHER PRIORITIES THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH FROM HUMAN SERVICES AND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TO, YOU KNOW, STREETS AND SIDEWALKS, THAT DEMAND'S GONNA GO UP. AND WHAT SSB TWO DID, DOES IS ESSENTIALLY CUT OFF THE, UH, TOP END OF THAT GROWTH. SO WE WON'T BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES AT THE RATE OF GROWTH ANYMORE. SO, UH, IF THERE IS SOME FLEXIBILITY THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY PROVIDE TARGETED RELIEF AND ADD A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, BUT ALSO AT THE SAME TIME NOT IMPAIR OUR ABILITY TO DELIVER SERVICES, I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT THAT SCENARIO LOOKS LIKE FOR THE CITY. WE CAN CERTAINLY PUT THAT TOGETHER. AND, AND MAYOR, IF YOU DON'T MIND, CAN I POINT YOU TO ONE OTHER SLIDE FOR SURE. FOR YOU ALL AS A, A BODY TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION AS YOU TALK ABOUT PROPERTY TAX RELIEF AND, AND MAYBE WHAT YOU'VE HEARD FROM YOUR RESIDENTS? 'CAUSE SSB TWO HAS CHANGED THAT DYNAMIC QUITE A BIT. IF SO, IF YOU GO TO, UM, TAB ONE, IT'S ACTUALLY SLIDE 13 IN YOUR BINDER. THIS IS LOOKING AT FROM 2015 TO 2019, HAD SSB TWO BEEN IN PLACE, WHAT WOULD'VE HAPPENED TO THE M AND O TAX RATE? THE TAX RATE THAT FUNDS THE GENERAL FUND, THE ACTUAL TAX RATE IS WHAT WE ACTUALLY ADOPTED WITH THE BUDGET. SO 35.40 CENTS IN 2015, AS MARY POINTED OUT IN 16, WE EXCEEDED THE ROLLBACK RATE, SO WE REDUCED IT TO 34.60 CENTS, UH, IN 16 AND, AND HAVE, HAVE HELD THAT CONSTANT SINCE THEN. THE LAST COLUMN SHOWS WHAT WOULD'VE HAPPENED HAD THAT THREE 5% ROLLBACK RATE BEEN IN PLACE AND THERE'S NO CARRY FORWARD. THE RATE FALLS, I DON'T SEE THAT, UH, IT'S ON, UH, TAB ONE, SLIDE 13. IT'S UP ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW. YEAH. SO IT'S UP HERE ON THE SCREEN AS WELL. UM, THE ACTUAL TAX RATE COLUMN, THAT'S WHAT YOU ACTUALLY ADOPTED AS PART OF THE BUDGET, 35 CENTS IN 20 15, 34 AND A HALF, 34.60 CENTS IN 2016. AND WE'VE HELD THAT CONSTANT. THE LAST COLUMN SAYS, WITHOUT OUR CARRY FORWARD, ASSUMING THERE WASN'T A RECESSION RIGHT PRIOR TO THIS PERIOD OF TIME, IF YOU'RE JUST LOOKING AT THE 3.5% CAP, THE TAX RATES WOULD'VE FALLEN FROM 35 CENTS, IT'D BE 31.40 CENTS TODAY. AND REMEMBER, FOR EVERY PENNY IN THE GENERAL FUND, THAT'S ABOUT $11 MILLION. YEAH. AND SO, AND, AND TO JUST TO SUMMARIZE, UM, WHERE I AM ON THIS, ERIC, I I THINK IT IS, IT IS TIME TO COUNCILMAN PERRY AND COUNCILMAN COURAGES POINT THAT WE PROVIDE THAT ADDITIONAL TOOL, UH, TO PROVIDE TARGETED RELIEF AND THE HOMESTEAD, I THINK IS WHERE IT'S NEEDED THE MOST. AND, YOU KNOW, AND WHETHER IT'S A OVER 65 DISABLED EXEMPTION OR IT'S JUST A HOMESTEAD IN GENERAL, I THINK WE, WE CAN GET OUR FOOT IN THE DOOR TO PROVIDING THAT TOOL. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK WE NEED TO BE VERY COGNIZANT OF THE FACT THAT IN OUT YEARS WE'RE GONNA BE LIMITING OUR ABILITY TO DELIVER ESSENTIAL SERVICES. AND IF WE ARE ABLE TO, UM, PROVIDE THAT TARGETED RELIEF THIS YEAR, UH, BUT ALSO, UM, ESSENTIALLY DRIVE THAT THROUGH, UM, YOU KNOW, THROUGH ADJUSTING BELOW THE ROLLBACK, I THINK WE WALK AWAY WITH BEING ABLE TO ANSWER BOTH OF THE QUESTIONS THAT COUNCILMAN P'S RESIDENTS HAVE ASKED HIM. WE WANT MORE STREETS AND SIDEWALKS. WE, WE NEED MORE POLICE AND FIRE. UH, WE NEED TO ADDRESS SERIOUS ISSUES LIKE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, BUT WE ALSO WANT RELIEF TO THE PEOPLE WHO NEED IT THE MOST. AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET AT. AND I THINK THAT COULD BE A POSSIBLE SOLUTION DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU SHOW. THANK YOU. I THINK I KNOW WHAT I'M HEARING, BUT I WANNA BE RESPECTFUL AND LISTEN TO, UH, OH, WAIT, WHO WAS FIRST? OKAY, , ADRIANA, AND THEN, UH, COUNCILWOMAN SULLIVAN. SURE. I JUST, AT THAT POINT, I WAS GONNA SAY AT THAT POINT, EVERYBODY WILL HAVE SAID SOMETHING ON THE TOPIC, AND SO WE'LL KIND OF WRAP IT UP. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION ON THE MEMO THAT JUSTINA PROVIDED US, IT, UM, HAS IT, IT LOOKS LIKE 18.2% WOULD BE THE ADDITIONAL, UM, THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED. DO WE HAVE A CALCULATION OF THAT 18.2% WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN? OR, OR MAYBE I MISSED IT SOMEWHERE IN THE PRESENTATION. , I'M SORRY, COUNCILMAN. I, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T CATCH THE PART OF YOUR, IT'S WHAT'S IN THE MEMO, THE 18.2% ADDITIONAL, UM, AND I'M TALKING FOR, UH, AN OVERALL HOMESTEAD EXTENSION. SO YOU GUYS PROVIDED THE DOCUMENT, IT SAYS RIGHT NOW, 81.8% ALREADY RECEIVE AN OVER 65 OR DISABLED PERSON'S EXEMPTION. SO THEN, UM, THE 18.2% THAT DON'T, WHERE IS THAT CALCULATION? UH, [03:05:01] ARE YOU LOOKING IN THE FOLLOW UP MEMO? I'M NOT, THAT'S THE MEMO THAT SHE HANDED OUT JUST A MOMENT AGO. OH, CHRISTINA. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU, AND WHILE YOU CHECK ON THAT, I DO AGREE WITH, UM, COUNCILMAN TRIVINIA ABOUT LOOKING AT O OTHER PARCELS THAT MAYBE AREN'T BEING TAXED. UM, I DO AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN PEL AND COUNCILWOMAN HDA ABOUT, UH, LOOKING AT AND, AND AGAIN, AND YES, I'M IN MARKETING, SO IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MESSAGING. SO I REMEMBER A C SS A FEW YEARS AGO DID THIS BEAUTIFUL CAMPAIGN, UM, ABOUT CATS, RIGHT? AND SO YOU SAW THE, UH, LIKE A, A PYRAMID AND HOW, UM, THEY MULTIPLY BASICALLY. AND I THINK THAT WAS SOMETHING VERY VISUAL THAT RESIDENTS GOT WITHOUT NECESSARILY UNDERSTANDING, UM, COME THE COMPLICATED ITEMS. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER MOVING FORWARD WITH PUTTING SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS A ONE PAGER THAT SHOWS THAT, UH, FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS TO UNDERSTAND SPECIFICALLY THE CONSTITUENTS THAT ARE IN THOSE MOST VULNERABLE POPULATIONS THAT, UM, DON'T HAVE THE LITERACY SKILLS THAT I FEEL THAT OTHER, UH, COUNCIL DISTRICTS ENJOY THAT ARE IN THE MOST VULNERABLE POPULATIONS. I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO FOCUS ON HOW WE GET THE WORD OUT, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY'RE HEARING THE CAMPAIGN RHETORIC OF CUTTING TAXES AND, UM, WE, WE CAN ALL SAY THAT WE WANNA DO THAT, BUT WHEN WE SHOW EXACTLY WHAT WOULD IT WOULD DO, I WOULD PROBABLY, UM, PROBABLY BET THAT SOME PEOPLE WOULD RETHINK THAT, RIGHT? SO THEY SAY, OKAY, WELL I DON'T WANNA LOSE OUT ON EXTRA PATROLS ON THE STREET. I DON'T WANNA LOSE OUT ON EXTRA, UH, HOURS TO THE LIBRARY OR WHATEVER IT IS. BUT I THINK THAT WE NEED TO PUT IT IN SOMETHING VERY CLEAR AND AN UNDERSTANDABLE FORMAT SO THAT THEY CAN, UH, SEE WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU FOR THAT. HE'S GETTING TO IT . UH, SO YES, SO, UH, THEY'RE GONNA PULL IT UP. TAB TWO, SLIDE FIVE. COUNCILMAN PROVIDE SOME STATISTICS ON OUR HOMESTEADS. WE HAVE 236,000 HOMESTEADS IN SAN ANTONIO. UM, THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 34,000 THAT HAVE BEEN IN THEIR HOME FROM 21 TO 30 YEARS, AND ABOUT 30,000 HAVE BEEN IN THEIR HOME FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS. SO IF YOU ADD THOSE TWO UP, THAT 64,000 OF THE 2 36 OR 21%, UM, CURRENTLY RECEIVE A, AN OVER, UH, OR IN THAT CATEGORY. AND THEN OF THOSE YOU CAN SEE THE, AND ROUGHLY 45, NO 55,000 WITHIN THAT CATEGORY THAT ACTUALLY HAVE THE OVER 65 EXEMPTION. NO, THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT ONE. NO, THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT ONE. UM, IT'S, UH, WHAT'S THE TITLE OF IT? IT'S, UH, THE PROPERTY TAX RELIEF PRESENTATION, SLIDE FIVE. IT'S THE, UH, PROPERTY TAX STATISTIC. SO THIS WAS JUST, UH, IT JUST GIVES YOU SOME STATISTICS BASED ON HOW LONG SOMEBODY'S BEEN IN THE HOME, HOW MANY HOME STUDS WE HAVE IN THAT CATEGORY, AND THEN OF THOSE, HOW MANY ARE FROZEN BECAUSE THEY'VE REACHED 8 65. UH, BY MY QUESTION IS THE CALCULATION ON WHAT IT WOULD, HOW IT WOULD IMPACT US, THOUGH I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN TERMS OF WHICH CALCULATION, THE SERVICES OR, SO YOU KNOW HOW IN THE OTHER PRESENTATION YOU HAVE LIKE A TOTAL IMPACT. I DIDN'T SEE THAT TOTAL IMPACT ANYWHERE ON THIS. UM, SO THE IMPACT OF THE HOMESTEAD IS, UM, WHAT WE REFLECTED. SO BASED ON THE OPTION YOU PICK, THAT WOULD BE THE IMPACT TO US IN DOLLARS. AND THEN WE DID NOT TIE TO THAT WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF REDUCTION IN SERVICES. OKAY. AND I GUESS THAT'S THE QUESTION. SO I WAS JUST TRYING TO KIND OF COMPARE OR, UM, TRYING TO MAKE AN EDUCATED DECISION ON THAT. GOOD. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN SULLIVAN. UM, THANK YOU. WHEN YOU SPEAK ABOUT A COMMUNITY THAT HAS BEEN DISPLACED AND THAT IS LOOKING AT COMPLETE DISPLACEMENT BECAUSE OF THEIR PROPERTY TAXES, WHEN YOU SPEAK ABOUT A COMMUNITY THAT HAS A MAJORITY OF VULNERABLE CITIZENS THAT STILL AT THIS RATE CANNOT AFFORD TO STAY WITHIN THEIR HOMES, AND YOU LOOK AT THE LEGACY HOMEOWNERS, YOU'RE LOOKING AT PEOPLE THAT ARE TRULY NOT HAVING THE BENEFIT OF BEING ABLE TO PAY THESE PROPERTY TAXES. AND SO A LOT OF TIMES IN MY DISTRICT, WHEN WE SPEAK ABOUT PUTTING THIS HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION IN PLACE, WE'RE TRULY SPEAKING ABOUT ADDING A VALUE BACK TO LIFE. AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION DOES. HOW THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO DOESN'T HAVE ONE, BEING ONE OF THE LARGEST CITIES IN OUR NATION STILL BAFFLES ME. I'M STILL TRYING TO FIGURE THAT PART OUT. UM, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE OTHER REVENUES AND OTHER RESOURCES THAT WE CAN BRING IN THAT HAVE BEEN POINTED OUT TO TRULY COMBAT THIS ISSUE OF PUTTING THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION IN PLACE. WHEN WE LOOK AT THOSE ENTITIES THAT [03:10:01] ARE NOT PAYING INTO THE TAX REVENUE, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? IF WE ARE AT STATING THAT THIS HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION WILL TAKE AT JUST THE 0.1%, 5 MILLION. WHEN WE ADD IN THE, AS THEY SAID, 15,000 PARCELS THAT ARE NOT PAYING, WHAT REVENUE WOULD THAT BRING IN IF WE ARE TO ADD THAT BACK IN TO TRULY HELP US WITH WHAT WE WOULD LOSE IF WE ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTED THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION? I'M, I'M SORRY. AND THE 15,000 PARCELS ARE THE, UM, UNTAXED, THEY'RE CURRENTLY UNTAXED. UH, WE'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND ANALYZE THAT. UH, I DON'T HAVE THAT, UH, INFORMATION, SO I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT VALUE'S BEEN ASSIGNED TO THOSE PROPERTIES. AND THEN AGAIN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE EXEMPT BASED ON, ON SOME EXEMPTION TODAY. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY TO UNDO THAT OR I GUESS WE'RE TALKING MORE ABOUT DEPLOYING THOSE BACK INTO GETTING THEM DEVELOPED OR GETTING THEM BACK ONTO THE PRIVATE SECTOR SIDE. WE'VE NOT DONE THAT ANALYSIS. OKAY. AND THEN AS FAR AS, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE APPRAISAL MM-HMM. , I KNOW THAT SOME OF THE APPRAISALS OF THESE PROPERTIES HAVE ESCALATED 210% OR MORE. WHEN EXACTLY WILL WE HAVE THE REPORT BACK FROM THE BEXAR COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT ON WHEN WE CAN TRULY SEE A, A VALID APPRAISAL ON HOMES THAT ARE ABOUT 65 YEARS AND, AND OLDER? UM, I KNOW THAT THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT IS DOING AN AUDIT, UH, OF, OF THOSE ACCOUNTS. UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR TIMEFRAME IS. UM, I WOULD ASSUME WITHIN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, AND WE'LL CERTAINLY HAPPILY BE REPORT THAT, REPORT THAT BACK TO YOU. YEAH. WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU. THANK YOU. SO EVERYBODY'S HAD A, A CHANCE TO SPEAK ON THE TOPIC. IT SOUNDS TO ME THAT, UM, SOME SUPPORT IT WHOLEHEARTEDLY, SOME SUPPORT IT, UM, OPTIMISTICALLY OPTIMISTIC OR WHATEVER THE TERM WAS THAT COUNCILMAN LIAS USED. UH, BUT MOST OF YOU ARE ASKING FOR MORE INFORMATION SO THAT YOU CAN REALLY GET YOUR HEAD AROUND IT BEFORE YOU MAKE A DECISION. DOES THAT SOUND FAIR TO YOU, MANAGER? IT DOES. UH, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS SEE IF WE CAN GATHER SOME MORE INFORMATION ON SOME OF THE SPECIFIC SCENARIOS AND COME BACK. BECAUSE IF, IF THE, IF, IF THE CONSENSUS OF THE COUNCIL IS THAT YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING ON, ON A SPECIAL MEETING NEXT WEEK, WE HAVE TO CAPTION IT PROPERLY. AND WE'VE, WE'RE, THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN THROWN OUT AND DISCUSSED. SO WE'RE GONNA WORK, UH, TO SEE IF WE CAN COME BACK AND AT A CERTAIN POINT LATER ON AND SEE IF WE CAN PINPOINT THAT. OKAY. YES, SIR. CLOSE IT. YEAH. I JUST WANT TO, UM, CLOSE THIS. YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IF WE OFFER THIS HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO CUT BACK ON SERVICES. AND I, I, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WERE ABLE TO PUT THIS SLIDE ON THE, ON THE, UH, ELECTRONIC, UM, OKAY. HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO. WELL, I WILL GET A COPY OF THIS. THIS JUST SHOWS WHAT OUR GENERAL FUND REVENUE HAS BEEN SINCE 2010 AND THE INCREASES THAT HAVE HAPPENED EVERY YEAR. UH, GOING TO 2011, 31 MILLION EXTRA DOLLARS, 12, $11 MILLION, 13 6 80 1 MILLION EXTRA DOLLARS, 14, UM, WAIT, 14 I WANT, TALKED ABOUT 1530 $1 MILLION, 1640 $7 MILLION. AND THEN THAT WAS AT A $1.098 BILLION, UH, GENERAL FUND IN 2017, IT WENT UP TO $1.143 BILLION. AND JUST LAST YEAR IT WENT UP TO $1.214 BILLION. SO THE MONEY IS THERE TO MAINTAIN OUR EXISTING SERVICES. I MEAN, IT'S INCREASED DRAMATICALLY YEAR AFTER YEAR ON OUR TOTAL GENERAL FUND. AND I'LL GET YOU ALL COPIES OF THIS. UH, THAT SHOWS THAT. SO, I, I DON'T, I DON'T FEAR THAT WE'D HAVE TO CUT BACK SERVICES BASED ON PROVIDING A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION ON THIS. AND THAT'S JUST THE POINT THAT I WANTED TO MAKE. WE'VE HAD DRAMATIC INCREASES WE'RE THAT WE, WE DO THE BUDGET EVERY YEAR AND WE HAVEN'T CUT BACK ANY SERVICES. WE'VE ADDED SERVICES HERE IN THIS CITY FOR MANY YEARS. THAT'S ALL I WANTED. THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND I'LL, I'LL GET A COPY OF THIS TO EVERYBODY. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO, UH, WE'RE GONNA PUT THIS CONVERSATION TO REST FOR NOW. IT'LL BE TO BE CONTINUED, UH, IT SOUNDS LIKE AT A SESSION NEXT WEEK OR POSSIBLY WE'RE GONNA COME BACK THIS AFTERNOON. 'CAUSE I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I HAVE GOOD DIRECTION TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO ON A CAPTION AND A POSTING FOR NEXT WEEK. OKAY. SO WE'RE GONNA DO SOME OF THAT. DO NEED TO PUSH THROUGH. IT'S 1245 RIGHT NOW. I KNOW WHETHER WE WERE UP AGAINST A TIMELINE FOR POSTING. WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA DO A LITTLE BIT OF WORK DURING THE BREAK OKAY. AND COME BACK. OKAY. SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND BREAK FOR LUNCH. IT'S 1245. I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF EVERYBODY WOULD COME BACK ONE 30 PROMPTLY AT ONE 30 SO THAT WE HAVE EVERYBODY AT THE, WE'LL BE BACK AT ONE 30. UM, BUT BEFORE WE BREAK, I HAD ONE BRIEF ANNOUNCEMENT. SURE. OKAY. [03:15:01] UM, IT'S CHRIS CALLAN'S BIRTHDAY NUMBER 50. WELL, WHERE IS HE? WHERE'S HE AT? HE'S IN THE HOME. WE'VE GOT CAKE AT LUNCH. SO IS HE IN HERE? WHERE IS HE? OH, THERE HE IS. HAPPY BIRTHDAY. HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU. HAPPY BIRTHDAY DEAR CHRIS. HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU. SO, TO GET, UH, STARTED FOR THIS NEXT SESSION, I'M JUST GONNA WARN YOU THAT I'M REALLY GONNA TRY AND, UH, LIMIT YOUR, UH, SUGGEST THAT YOU LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO BE VERY CONCISE. MAYBE TWO TO THREE MINUTES. I'M NOT GONNA TIME YOU, SO I'M NOT TURNING THE TABLES ON YOU LIKE CITIZENS TO BE HEARD . BUT WE DO NEED TO GET THROUGH. UM, WE DO WANT SOME HEALTHY DISCUSSION. SO I'M NOT, I DON'T WANNA, I DON'T WANNA CHILL THE CONVERSATION, BUT I HAVE TO MANAGE IT SO THAT WE CAN GET THROUGH THE AFTERNOON. SO WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND PRESS ON TO STREETS. UM, WHEN THE MANAGER GIVES ME THE QUEUE, WHEN WE GET TO A STOPPING POINT, WE'LL REVISIT THE PROPERTY TAX RELIEF AND HOW THAT'S GONNA BE, UM, STYLED, UH, FOR NEXT WEEK'S SESSION. SO, WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'RE GONNA GO TO STREETS. UH, UP HERE ARE THE SUGGESTED, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS MOVING FORWARD FOR THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR. UH, ALLOCATE FUNDING BASED ON CONDITION OF NETWORK, 50%. THE OTHER 50% WOULD BE BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE NETWORK. ANNUAL STREET MAINTENANCE PROGRAM PROJECTS ARE COMPLETED WITHIN 12 MONTHS. AND THEN THEY'RE RECOMMENDING A TWO YEAR RECONSTRUCTION PROGRAM WHERE DESIGN BEGINS IN YEAR ONE AND CONSTRUCTION BEGINS ON THE SECOND YEAR WITH CONSTRUCTION TO BE COMPLETED WITHIN 18 TO 24 MONTHS AFTER THAT. SO, UH, WE HAVE THE LEADERSHIP OVER HERE. IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY, UH, CLARIFYING QUESTIONS, NOW'S THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT. . UM, SO PLEASE, LET'S JUST OPEN THE DISCUSSION. ARE THERE ANY CLARIFYING QUESTIONS ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE BEING MADE? OKAY. SEEING NONE, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND GO INTO, UM, THE ACTUAL DISCUSSION. YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT ACCEPTING THESE PROPOSED POLICIES AND WHAT WOULD BE THE IMPACTS IF WE DO NOT ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATIONS? COUNCILMAN SULLIVAN, PLEASE. SO I'VE HAD THIS QUESTION. I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF PROJECTS WITHIN, UM, MY PARTICULAR AREA OF DISTRICT TWO THAT HAVE BEEN STARTED, BUT THEY HAVE NOT BEEN COMPLETED. UM, SOME OF THEM ARE WAY OVERDUE. UM, AND THEN WE HAVE THE, THE HUGE ISSUE, UM, THAT PERTAINS TO SOME OF THE STREETS THAT DON'T HAVE ANY FORM OF DRAINAGE SYSTEM AT ALL. WOULD THAT FALL UNDER THE RECONSTRUCTION IF WE ADD IN DRAINAGE? OR WOULD THAT FALL UNDER A DIFFERENT PROGRAM ALTOGETHER? USUALLY ON RECONSTRUCTION WE LOOK FOR THE EXISTING INLET CAPACITY, AND IF THEY ARE NOT ADEQUATE, WE INCREASE THOSE AND PROPER SIZING. USUALLY THEY ARE DONE UNDER RECONSTRUCTION. CORRECT. THANK YOU. THIS IS RA HUSSEIN, THE DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE CITY. COUNCILMAN . THANK YOU. UM, FOR THE, ANY, FOR THE TWO YEAR RECONSTRUCTION PROGRAM AND THE ANNUAL STREET MAINTENANCE PROGRAM WITH THIS, UM, HOW LONG DO YOU ANTICIPATE IT TO BRING ALL OF OUR, TO, TO START INCREASING THE P C I SCORES OF OUR, OUR STREETS? DO YOU THINK IT'LL STAY AT THE SAME, UM, TIME, LIKE TURNAROUND TIME TO INCREASE THOSE NUMBERS? OR DO YOU THINK IT WOULD, UH, GO A LITTLE SLOWER OR IT WOULD INCREASE THE, THE TIME? CAN YOU, CAN YOU JUST SAY WHAT P C I STANDS FOR? FOR THE BENEFIT OF P C I STAND FOR PAYMENT CONDUCT IN INDEX. BASICALLY, QUALITY OF THE PAYMENT IS MAJOR BY P C I HUNDRED IS BRAND NEW. ROADWAY IS A ZERO, IS FAILED ROADWAY IN REALLY BAD SHAPE. COUNCILWOMAN TODAY, REALLY, THEY DO GET DONE IN 18 OR 24 MONTHS, WHAT WE CALL THEM ANNUAL STATE MAINTENANCE PROJECT. WHAT WE REALLY WANNA MAKE SURE EXPECT, THEY, WE CLEARLY TELL UPFRONT TO PUBLIC WHAT'S THE EXPECTATION? WE COULD DO SLURRY, SEAL, MICROSERVICE AND OTHER, AND MIL AND OVERLAY WITHIN ONE YEAR TIMEFRAME. WE CAN DELIVER THOSE, THOSE OTHER BIGGER PROJECT RECONSTRUCTION EXAMINATION REQUIRE UTILITY COORDINATION, UTILITY ADJUSTMENT. BECAUSE OUR POLICY IS AFTER WE SPEND THE MONEY AND BUILD THOSE ROADWAY, [03:20:01] WE ARE NOT GOING TO ALLOW UTILITY COMPANY TO GO OVER THERE AND CUT THE BRAND NEW ROADWAY. THEREFORE, THEY HAVE TO DECIDE TO UPGRADE THEIR FACILITY OR NOT. MOST OF THE TIME THEY DO DECIDE TO OPERATE THEIR FACILITY. THAT'S THE REASON IT TAKES BETWEEN 18 TO 24 MONTHS. AND FOR P C I, IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER. WE ARE LOOKING THE WAY WE ARE PROPOSING TO THIS FUNDING. IF COUNCILS APPROVE 50 50, EVERY COUNCIL DISTRICT'S P C I IS GOING TO BE INCREASED BY EVERY YEAR BY 2024. AND THE F STREETS ARE THOSE THAT REQUIRE THE RECONSTRUCTION PROGRAMS? THAT'S CORRECT. D N F OR JUST F F AND D ALSO, WE DO RECONSTRUCTION, AS YOU KNOW, COUNCIL WOMAN, WE HAVE 1,155 CENTER LINE MILE OF THE ROADWAY. 10% OF THOSE IS F STREET, WHICH IS 115. AND SINCE LAST FEW YEARS, OUR BUDGET HAS INCREASED SIGNIFICANTLY EVERY YEAR WE ARE DOING ALSO ADDITIONAL STREET RECONSTRUCTION REEXAMINATION. SO CHANGING THESE TWO WILL NOT SLOW DOWN ANY OF OUR WORK. IT'S JUST GOING TO ADD CLARIFICATION TO THE PROGRAMS. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. OKAY. COUNCILMAN TREVINO. THANK YOU. UH, RAZZI, UH, WITH REGARDS TO S M P AND I M P, UH, YOU AND I HAVE DISCUSSED, UH, IS THERE A WAY WE CAN INTRODUCE LANGUAGE IN HERE THAT SAYS, UH, AS WE LOOK AT OUR ANNUAL STREET MAINTENANCE PROGRAM, THAT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM IS COORDINATED SO THAT WE CAN GET THE BEST, UH, DESIGN POSSIBLE AND COORDINATE OUR SIDEWALKS WITH STREET PROJECTS AND, AND OTHER, UH, POTENTIAL, UH, OVERLAPS SO THAT, UH, I THINK WE CAN SORT OF BUILD IN SOME EFFICIENCIES. COUNCILMAN, WHEN WE PASSED THE 2017 BOND, WE PLOT ALL THOSE NEW PROJECT WE BOUGHT APPROVED BY THE BOND ON OUR SS M P AND I M P. MAKE SURE YOU RIGHT. FIRST OF ALL, THERE IS NO OVERLAP. AND ALSO, IF THERE IS A SMALL GAP, OUR INTENTION IS TO COVER THAT. ALSO, WE WANNA GO TO COMMUNITY ONE TIME AND ONLY ONE TIME AND DO IT RIGHT IN THE FIRST PLACE. RIGHT. I, I THINK WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M ALSO, UH, ASKING FOR THOUGH IS, IS THAT AS WE ARE REVIEWING OUR I M P DOLLARS AND I M P PROJECTS, THAT WE CAN, WE CAN BE INFORMED ABOUT SOME OF THE POTENTIAL, UH, PROJECTS COMING UP SO THAT SS M P AND I M P FUNDS, UH, CAN, CAN SOMEHOW TRY TO WORK TOGETHER TO, TO, TO, TO CREATE MORE COMPLETE PROJECTS A ACCURATELY. THANK YOU. WHAT DOES I M P STAND FOR? INFRASTRUCTURE MAINTENANCE. INFRASTRUCTURE MAINTENANCE. I THOUGHT I KNEW THIS TOPIC. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT THE EFFECTS OF ADOPTING THIS? YES, SIR. I, I NOTICED THAT WE WE'RE DOING SOME PROJECTIONS ON, UH, WHAT WE HAD GOT HANDED LAST WEEK ABOUT STREETS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AND IT IS SHOWING A PROJECTION OF A LITTLE BIT LESS GOING INTO SIDEWALKS NEXT YEAR, FROM 19 MILLION DOWN TO 17 MILLION. OUR BASE BUDGET FOR SIDEWALK FOR NUMBER OF YEARS HAS BEEN 5 MILLION. RIGHT? LAST YEAR WE HAD SAVING 4 MILLION, END UP MAKING THAT 9 MILLION. AND WE HAD THE 10 MILLION FROM BOND. AS YOU KNOW, FROM BOND, WE HAD 48 MILLION PEDESTRIAN MOBILITY, EIGHT OF 10 CONSULT DISTRICT. THEY HAVE MONEY TO DO SOME SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENT. WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING, IF WE GET ONLY BASE 5 MILLION AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE 12 MILLION FROM BOND, YOU'RE RIGHT, WE'LL BE 17 RATHER THAN 19 THIS YEAR. WHAT IF THE COUNCIL DECIDED THAT THEY WANTED TO PUT ALL THAT A T T A T D MONEY INTO OTHER TRANSPORTATION, FOR EXAMPLE, TO FUND VIA, UH, OR TO WORK WITH CONNECT SA OR THINGS LIKE THAT? UH, WE'D ONLY BE DOWN TO MAYBE $12 MILLION FOR SIDEWALKS. CORRECT. IF THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL MONEY COMES, IF THE BOND IS THE ONLY ONE WILL BE 12 MILLION. BUT THIS MONEY WOULD BE INCLUSIVE OF THE INDIVIDUAL BOND MONEY THAT EACH DISTRICT MIGHT HAVE RECEIVED FOR STREETS. OR IS THIS EXCLUSIVE OF WHAT EACH DISTRICT MIGHT HAVE RECEIVED SEPARATELY FROM THEIR BOND? FROM BOND? WE HAVE TWO TYPE OF SIDEWALK. ONE IS CLEARLY FOR SIDEWALK CONSTRUCTION. THE OTHER ONE IS NEW SIDEWALK THROUGH THE ROADWAY CONSTRUCTION OR DRAINAGE CONSTRUCTION. THAT WILL BE ADDITIONAL. WE ARE ESTIMATING 30 MILLION DURING LIFE OF THE BOND. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? IS [03:25:02] ? GO AHEAD. . UM, THE COMMENTS RIGHT NOW ARE ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU JUST HAD ON THE YES, MA'AM. OH, OH, WHAT? YEAH. YOU GOT ME ON THE WRONG PRESENTATION, GUYS. ON THE WRONG PAGE. IT'S PAGE 15, I THINK, OR 1315. WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT PRESENTATIONS. CAN YOU PUT THERE IT'S OKAY. THESE UP HERE, THE ONES THAT WERE PRESENTED DURING THE B SESSION LAST WEEK. OKAY. UM, SO THAT'S, UH, STREET'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. I KNOW WE'VE NEARLY DOUBLED OUR BUDGET FROM, UH, A FEW YEARS AGO IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH WE'RE WE'RE SPENDING ON THAT. UM, BUT THEY REALLY, THEY CONNECT TO A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT I'M GONNA THROW IN , THROW IN HERE. UM, ONE OF THEM HAS TO DO WITH THE QUALITY ASSURANCE OF THE WORK THAT'S DONE BY OUR CONTRACTORS OR OUR STAFF AS THEY'RE OUT THERE. UM, LAST NIGHT I WAS, THIS IS ME WEAVING IN THE STORIES THAT WE DIDN'T TELL AT, AT THE BEGINNING. UM, SO LAST NIGHT I WAS SITTING, UH, WITH, UH, WITH THE FAMILY AND THEY WERE COMPLAINING ABOUT, UM, HOW THEIR ALLEY HAD NEED NEEDED TO BE REDONE THREE TIMES, UM, WITHIN THE PAST I, PAST YEAR OR SO. AND I SAID, YOU'RE LUCKY I HAVE ALLEYS THAT HAVE NEVER BEEN DONE. BUT THAT'S NOT THE, THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A JOKE, BUT THAT'S NOT THE POINT, RIGHT? IS THAT WE ONLY WANNA HAVE TO DO IT, UH, ONCE. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UH, SOME SORT OF, UH, AN UNDERSTANDING OF OF HOW WE ENSURE QUALITY, QUALITY CONTROL, QUALITY CONTROL, SO THAT WE MAKE THE BEST USE OF OUR DOLLARS. UH, WE DO SPEND A LOT OF TIME IN OUR CONSTITUENT OFFICES ADDRESSING ISSUES, UH, PRECISELY LIKE THAT. UH, THE OTHER THING THAT, UM, THIS MAY NOT ADDRESS BUT IS RELATED TO, HAS TO DO WITH STREET SAFETY. UM, THE MOST, THE THING THAT WE HEAR MOST OFTEN IS PEOPLE ARE STREET SPEEDING ON MY STREET. AND THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN HAVE PUBLIC SAFETY TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THAT, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE A POLICE OFFICER THERE ALL THE TIME. SO I THINK IT REALLY GETS TO OUR, OUR DESIGN OF OUR ROADS. SO I'D LIKE FOR THAT TO BE SOMEHOW INCORPORATED INTO THIS IS SOME, SOME INNOVATIVE WAY OF CONTROLLING, UH, SPEEDING. UM, AND I'LL STOP THERE. 'CAUSE I FEEL LIKE THAT'S A LOT. OKAY. , THANK YOU. THANK YOU COUNCILMAN. VIA GRANT. I'D LIKE TO BUILD ON TOP OF THAT THE, THE SAFETY OR, UM, THE, WHAT DO YOU ALL CALL IT? REDUCING, UH, TRAFFIC CALMING. YES. TRAFFIC CALMING. MAYBE WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT'S THE ANNUAL STREET MAINTENANCE PROGRAM, IF IT'S, IF IT'S A D STREET OR A C STREET, WHAT ELSE IN THERE OTHER ELEMENTS SUCH AS, DO WE NEED A TRAFFIC CALMING ELEMENT? IS IT TOO MUCH? UM, SPEEDING THROUGH THERE. MAYBE THAT CAN BE INCORPORATED THROUGH THE, UM, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAINTENANCE, WE TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC CALMING TOO. OKAY. UH, COUNCILMAN ROCHA, UH, GARCIA SOMETHING, UM, TO BUILD ON THAT POINT, SO THE TRAFFIC CALMING DEVICES, I, I WAS WONDERING IF, JUST LIKE YESTERDAY I OFFERED A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO COUNCILMAN TREVINO'S PROPOSAL ON THE CROSSWALKS. IS THERE, UH, SOMETHING THAT TELLS US THAT WE HAVE TO, UM, PUT TRAFFIC CALMING DEVICES WITHIN A CERTAIN RADIUS OF ALL SCHOOLS AND LIBRARIES AND REC CENTERS, ET CETERA. I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE ALREADY EXISTS SOMETHING THAT SAYS THAT WE DO. AND IF WE DON'T, SHOULD THAT BE SOMETHING FOR US TO CONSIDER? OR CAN THAT BE SOMETHING FOR US TO CONSIDER? COUNCILWOMAN, WE HAVE A TRAFFIC COMMENT MANUAL IN OUR ONLINE, ACTUALLY, I HAPPEN TO HAVE, I HAVE A COPY HERE, BUT I HAVE ONLY ONE COPY PEOPLE CAN APPLY AND THERE'S ONLINE AND NO APPLICATION FEE. AND WE CAN EVALUATE TO SEE IF IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENT OR NOT TO INSTALL, ESPECIALLY ANY SPEED PUMP OR OTHER, ANYTIME WE ARE DESIGNING ROADWAY, WE ARE VERY SENSITIVE ABOUT THAT ONE, MAKING SURE THERE'S PROPER SIGNAGE. WE REDUCE THE TRAFFIC LANE IS POSSIBLE, PROVIDE THE REFUGE MEDIA PEOPLE DOESN'T HAVE TO CROSS FIVE SIX LANE ONE TIME AND SOME OTHER INFORMATION TO MAKE SURE PUBLIC IS SAFE. OKAY. GOOD. I I WAS JUST WONDERING, THERE'S A PARTICULAR PART IN MY DISTRICT WHERE THERE'S A POND AND THERE'S ALWAYS DEAD DUCKS. AND I, AND I KNOW IT'S REALLY SAD. UM, BUT THEN AS I WAS BLOCK WALKING IN THIS AREA, UH, THE RESIDENTS ARE CONCERNED BECAUSE KIDS WALK TO THAT PARK ALL THE TIME AFTER SCHOOL AND PEOPLE FLY BY LIKE CRAZY. AND SO I WAS JUST TRYING TO SEE IF THERE WAS SOMETHING IN PLACE, AGAIN, WITHIN, WITHIN A CERTAIN PERIMETER OF A PARK OR LIBRARY OR SENIOR CENTER FOR THAT MATTER. IF THERE'S AN, [03:30:01] UH, POLICY THAT WE AUTOMATICALLY LOOK AT TRAFFIC CALMING DEVICES FOR THOSE AREAS OF CONCERN, WHY NOT LET US WORK WITH YOU TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO THERE. OKAY. THANK YOU. AS SURE. YES SIR. RAJI, WE, WE SPOKE ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT AND, AND IT GOES TO THE F STREETS THAT WERE, UH, FAILED. AND, UM, I KNOW JUST WITHIN MY DISTRICT, THERE'S NO WAY WE CAN AFFORD TO DO A MAJORITY OF THOSE F STREETS WITH THE I M P. SO IS IT, ARE WE AT A POINT NOW THAT WE CAN START BUILDING THIS NEXT BOND TO TAKE THE PRESSURE OFF THE I M P TO DO THE FAILED STREETS, WHICH REQUIRES A MAJOR RECONSTRUCTION EFFORT TO, UH, START BUILDING THAT BOND? AND THAT'S ONLY TWO YEARS OFF IF WE'RE GONNA DO ONE, UH, TO, UH, START DEVELOPING THAT AGAIN SO THAT WE CAN GET MORE TOWARDS, UH, MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR WITH THE I M P VERSUS THESE, UH, HEAVY CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS? COUNCILMAN? THAT'S A GOOD IDEA ACTUALLY. IN PREPARING FOR 2017 BOND, WE HAD TENTATIVELY PUT ASIDE 75,000,007 AND A HALF MILLION PER EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT. AS WE WENT THROUGH THE COUNCIL'S OFFICE AND COMMUNITY, THE NEED WAS SO MUCH GRADUALLY THAT DOLLAR GOT BIGGER, SMALLER AND SMALLER. AND FINALLY, WE END UP HAVING NOTHING LEFT. OUR IDEA IS IN ORDER TO TAKE CARE OF THE ARY WITHIN A TIMELY MANNER, WE REALLY NEED TO, ON FUTURE BOND, PUT SOME MONEY ALLOCATED ONLY FOR F STREET ON EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT. BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, S M B IS GOING TO BE TAKING A LONG TIME TO ADDRESSING SOME OF THOSE F STREET. OKAY. UNLESS ANYBODY HAS A BURNING COMMENT. IT SOUNDS LIKE EVERYBODY'S OKAY WITH THE RECOMMENDATION AS IT STANDS. YES, SIR. UM, WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T ADDRESS, UM, BICYCLES, UH, BIKE LANES, THINGS LIKE THAT. UH, IS THAT BUILT INTO, UH, ANY OF THIS DISCUSSION HERE OR IS THAT GONNA BE ANOTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCILMAN YOU? RIGHT. HISTORICALLY WE HAVEN'T BEEN AS PROACTIVE ON THE BIKE LANE AND WHAT WE ARE DOING, WE ARE PREPARING R F Q, PUT OUT THE BIKE PLAN. MASTERPLAN CALLS WE HAVE WAS DONE IN 2011, RIGHT. IS REALLY MOST OF THE TIME LINE ON THE MAP. WHEN WE GO UNDERGROUND. IT IS HARD TO REAL, WE REALIZE THERE IS NO PHYSICAL ROOM TO BUILD A SAFE BIKE LANE. WE JUST DON'T WANT TO BUILD BIKE LANE FOR CAR BUILDING BIKE LANE. WE WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S REALLY SAFE FOR BIKE AND ALSO VEHICLE. WE ARE LOOKING, FIRST OF ALL, TO GET SIGNIFICANT INPUT FROM PUBLIC. THEY HAVE TO BE BEHIND WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING. AND THEN IT'LL CREATE NUMBER OF THE PROJECT. WE WILL INCLUDE THOSE PROJECT AS PART OF 2022 BOND TO BUILD SOME OF THESE PROJECT. ARE WE UPDATING THE MASTER PLAN SINCE IT WAS, YOU KNOW, SEVEN, EIGHT YEARS OLD? YES. WE WILL UPDATE THAT ONE AND WE'LL BE MORE DETAILED MASTER PLAN. OKAY. THANK YOU. IS THAT WHAT THE R F Q IS FOR, TO UPDATE THE BA MASTER PLAN? CORRECT. OKAY. OKAY. YES, MA'AM. I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION BECAUSE IF THIS IS ALL, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT STREET SIZE AND TRANSPORTATION, SO WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT SIDEWALKS AND THE BIKES AND ALL OF THAT RIGHT NOW? YES. IT'S UNDER THE WHOLE, OKAY. SO IT IT'S SIMPLISTIC TO PUT STREETS. YES, IT IS. SIDEWALKS AND, AND TRANSPORTATION GENERALLY. OKAY. SO I WILL CONTINUE TO, TO ADVOCATE AND BELIEVE THAT OUR, UM, SIDEWALKS AND OUR, OUR NEW SIDEWALK, UM, PARAMETERS FOR THIS, THIS GOAL FILL SIDEWALKS, BUS STOPS, HEALTHCARE. UM, I'M GONNA CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE THAT WE LOOK AT THAT IN THE CRITERIA AND THE PRIORITIZATION BECAUSE I STILL, AND IN AN EQUITY BASIS, BECAUSE WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR SMALLER, OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS WITH THE SMALLER, NARROWER SIDEWALKS THAT ARE ALL BUSTED UP 'CAUSE THEY'VE BEEN THERE AND WHO DON'T HAVE AS MANY MEDICAL CENTERS OR HEALTHCARE FACILITIES IN THEIR DISTRICTS, I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE THAT IN CONSIDERATION WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE ALLOCATIONS OF THE SIDEWALKS AND THE AMOUNT OF SIDEWALK GAPS THAT STILL EXIST AND RE AND REDEFINING WHAT GAP MEANS, UM, IN MY OPINION, NOT JUST THE ABSENCE OF IT, BUT THE AN THE INABILITY TO UTILIZE THE SIDEWALK IF YOU'RE A PEDESTRIAN. THAT'S ONE THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO UM, MENTION HERE. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. AND THEN, UH, COUNCILWOMAN, GO AHEAD REAL QUICK. SO I, I JUST WANNA JUST PART OF THAT AND I, I, WE'VE BEEN TALKING, UH, WITH RAZZIE AND, AND THE MANAGER ABOUT THIS, AND JUST PLEASE NOTE THAT I THINK WE NEED TO EITHER, UH, REVISIT U D C 29 11 OR, OR, OR REINTERPRET THAT SOMEHOW [03:35:01] OR ABOLISH IT U D C 2011. BUT THIS HAS TO GO DO WITH, UH, OUR DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT REQUIRES, UH, EXISTING HOMEOWNERS TO, TO, UM, BUILD THEIR OWN SIDEWALKS. AND THAT'S, THAT ANSWERS THAT QUESTION RIGHT THERE. SO I THINK WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT. AND, AND I THINK IT ALSO INCORPORATES THE, AND AND I THINK SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TALKED ABOUT IT LAST WEEK, THE, UM, THE SIDEWALK, UM, UM, I FORGET THE NAME OF IT. MAINTENANCE PROGRAM, SIDEWALK, UH, THE REPAIR PROGRAM. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. YEAH, THE SIDEWALK REPAIR PROGRAM, BECAUSE TO YOUR POINT, THERE MAY BE IT, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, UH, THERE'S NO GAP. IT'S NOT USABLE. AND, AND I THINK PART OF THE CONVERSATION, AND I THINK, UH, RAZZI HAD A SLIDE LAST WEEK THAT SHOWS THAT, UH, THAT TYPE OF APPROACH, IF WE INCORPORATE IT, MAKES THAT THAT STRETCH USABLE. AND IT'S ALSO RELATIVELY CHEAPER TO DO IT THAT WAY AND ADD THAT TO OUR, OUR TOOLBOX OF, OF, UH, SIDEWALK WORK. COUNCILMAN, THANK YOU. I WANT TO SAY I AGREE WITH COUNCILWOMAN GERRANS, UM, POINT ABOUT THE, THE AREAS OF NEED THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TARGETING THOSE AREAS. BUT I ALSO WANNA ADD TO THAT, THAT WE ARE NOT JUST, UM, TAKING THAT BY DISTRICT, THAT, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE AREAS OF NEED NO MATTER WHERE THE LINES ARE, SO THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOME DISTRICTS DON'T GET LEFT OUT OF THAT. UM, MY, IN DISTRICT SIX, WE, WE DIDN'T GET A WHOLE LOT OF THAT BECAUSE, BUT WE DO HAVE REALLY HIGH AREAS OF NEED. THERE HAPPENS TO BE A LINE GOING THROUGH EDGEWOOD. PART OF IT'S FOUR, I'M SORRY, PART OF IT'S, UH, SIX, PART OF IT IS DISTRICT FIVE, BUT SIX DIDN'T GET THAT MONEY BECAUSE WE'RE NOT IN THE, THE DISTRICT OF HIGHER NEED, BUT IT'S STILL THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I'D LIKE FOR US TO KIND OF, UM, MAYBE JUST PINPOINT THE AREA, NOT NECESSARILY BY DISTRICT. THANK YOU. ON A SIDEWALK REPAIR PROGRAM. WE WORK WITH THE COUNCILMAN TO START EARLY APRIL. THE IDEA WAS EVEN THERE IS NO PHYSICAL GAP, BUT FUNCTIONALITY THERE IS GAP. WHAT WE DECIDED, LET'S LOOK AT IT. THE, ANY NEIGHBORHOOD HAS 80% ROUGHLY USABLE SIDEWALK. WHY NOT? WE SPEND SOME MONEY AND TIME FIX THAT 20%. THEY MAKE A HUNDRED PERCENT USABLE. AND WE WORKED WITH THEM. HE HAD, HE HAD SOME MONEY, WE DECIDED TO TAKE ON THAT PROGRAM. AND WE HAVE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL. WE, WE HAVE DONE VERY LITTLE CONSTRUCTION IMPROVING THREE MILE OF THE SIDEWALK WITH THIS SMALL INVESTMENT AND SMALL TIME. TWO. YES, MA'AM. SO JUST A QUICK QUESTION. WHEN IT COMES TO THE BIKE LANES, AND I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE GOING BACK TO, UH, MAKING MORE DETAILED WHEN IT COMES TO THE BIKE LANES, ARE YOU LOOKING AT DOING THE PROTECTED WITH JUST THE REFLECTIVE DEVICES? ARE YOU LOOKING AT PUTTING IN AN ACTUAL BIKE MEDIAN? UM, WHAT ARE YOUR, YOUR CONCEPTS OR YOUR IDEAS ON WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THE BIKE LANES COUNCIL FROM WHEN EVERY PROJECT WE HAVE FUNDED BY BOND OR ANY OTHER PROJECT, WE REALLY LOOK FOR POSSIBILITY OF ADDING BIKE LANE. SOME IS PRETTY POSSIBLE, SOME IS NOT. GOOD. EXAMPLE IS SIGNIFICANT PART OF BROADWAY, ESPECIALLY NORTH OF 35. WE HAVE MUCH, MUCH WIDER SIDEWALK. WE CAN BUILD PROTECTED BIKE LANE MOST OF THE TIME. UNFORTUNATELY, DURING THE DOWNTOWN AREA, PROTECTED MEANS REALLY JUST STRIPING. THERE IS SO MUCH DRIVEWAY. IF YOU BUILD A CURB OR SOME KIND OF PHYSICAL BARRIER, YOU ARE REALLY BLOCKING THE DRIVEWAY. THEREFORE, MORE LIKELY IS GOING TO BE JUST STRIPING ANY PROJECT. AGAIN, WE ARE DOING, WE LOOK FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF ADDING PROTECTED BIKE LANE ON THAT ROADWAY. WE DON'T WANNA REALLY ADD A BIKE LANE, WHICH IS UNSAFE TO ADD A BIKE LANE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. , I'D JUST LIKE TO ASK FOR SOMETHING ELSE. UH, AND IT'S, IT'S PARTLY DUE TO MISUNDERSTANDING. AND, AND I THINK IT'S ALSO FOR THE BENEFIT. OUR, OUR NEWER COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE TALK ABOUT STREET WORK CONDITION AND WE TALK ABOUT, UH, THE FIVE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE TREAT STREETS TO, UH, EITHER PRESERVE OR REHABILITATE. I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND 'EM ALL, AND I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL FOR TWO YEARS. I'M SURE OUR NUM NEW MEMBERS DON'T UNDERSTAND 'EM AT ALL. WHAT I WOULD ASK IS, COULD YOU GIVE US A GOOD DESCRIPTION OF WHAT EACH OF THESE, UH, UH, TREATMENTS FOR THE STREETS ARE AND WHAT THE AVERAGE COST PER CENTER MILE IS SO THAT WE CAN USE THAT IN, IN OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY. I'VE HAD PLENTY OF PEOPLE SAY, WELL, OUR STREET NEEDS TO BE REDONE, AND MAYBE IT HAD CRACK SEAL DONE, OR MAYBE IT HAD SOMETHING DONE TO IT. AND THEY SAID, BUT THAT WAS FIVE YEARS AGO OR TWO YEARS AGO. IF WE KNEW BETTER WHAT THE TYPES OF TREATMENTS ARE, HOW LONG THEY TYPICALLY SHOULD LAST, WHAT THE COST [03:40:01] IS TO DO THAT PERCENT OR MILE. UH, IT HELPS US WORK MORE WITH THE COMMUNITY AND, AND MAYBE WITH OUR I M P TO KIND OF PROVIDE THE BEST RELIEF FOR PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO I'D JUST LIKE TO ASK THAT, THAT BE DISTRIBUTED TO ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS. I, I THINK WE CAN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER INFORMATION REQUESTS? ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY. WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND PUSH ON TO THE NEXT TOPIC. YOU GOT ENOUGH? YES. OKAY. UM, THE NEXT ONE WE'RE GOING TO IS, UH, STRONG FAMILIES AND CHILDREN. SO THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE BEING MADE HERE ARE A COMPREHENSIVE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PLAN STATUS OF WOMEN, C C R REPORT, TRAUMA-INFORMED CARE, THE TRIPLE P, WHICH IS POSITIVE PARENTING PROGRAM, UH, TOO GOOD FOR VIOLENCE, SOUNDS LIKE ANOTHER INITIATIVE, AND MENTAL HEALTH URGENT CARE CLINICS. THAT FOR YOU. THAT FOR YOU. OKAY. SO ARE THERE ANY, UH, CLARIFYING QUESTIONS? AGAIN, THESE ARE ALL PRESENTATIONS THAT WERE GIVEN DURING THE B SESSION, BUT IF YOU DO HAVE SOME, WE HAVE, UH, STAFF HERE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS. YES. QUESTIONS. UM, THANK YOU. SO I, UM, YOU KNOW, I HAD A CHANCE TO TALK TO SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES, BUT NOT ALL, UH, ABOUT ASKING FOR SUPPORT FOR THIS. UM, BUT I, I DIDN'T, I TRIED TO ASK THE QUESTION DURING THE PRESENTATION, BUT I FELT LIKE I DIDN'T GET CLARITY. UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR MORE FUNDING TO DELEGATE AGENCIES OVER THE YEARS BECAUSE I FELT LIKE THEY WOULD ADDRESS SOME OF THESE ISSUES. UH, AND SO AS WE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT THERE HAS BEEN A, UM, EMPHASIS ON DOMESTIC VIOLENCE BECAUSE WE HAD THAT INCREASE IN MURDER RATE FOR WOMEN. WE HAD THE STATUS REPORT FOR WOMEN, UM, AND THEY WERE ALL RELATED TO VIOLENCE AND TO, UM, UH, WELL, TO VIOLENCE IN PARTICULAR. I HAD A, A, A PROGRAM FOR CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION, BUT I, I GUESS I'M, I'M JUST AFRAID THAT IF WE TARGET JUST TOO MUCH OF, UH, VIOLENCE AND SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT WE DON'T GET TO SOME OF THE CORE ISSUES THAT WE ARE FACING IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT LED TO THIS, WHICH IS REGARDING POVERTY AND, AND SOME OF THOSE OTHER ITEMS. SO I, UM, CAN WE, AS WE DISCUSS THIS, THINK MORE BROADLY ABOUT INCREASED FUNDING FOR DELEGATE AGENCIES? I MEAN, I HAVE NOT BEEN CLEAR ON, IS THIS, ARE WE ASKING FOR A SEPARATE DEPARTMENT? UM, I, I KNOW WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING, IT'S WITHIN THE SAME POOL OF DOLLARS, BUT COULD WE BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE? BECAUSE MY FEELING IN THE COMMUNITY IS THAT IF MY COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE CONNECTED TO SOME SERVICE, WHETHER IT'S THE Y M C A OR THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, OR MEALS ON WHEELS, OR THE GOOD SAM GIRLS, INC. ANY OF THOSE, THEY HAVE GOOD OUTCOMES. IS THIS JUST FOR A NEW PROGRAM, OR IS THIS TO HELP WITH OUR EXISTING? SO THE, THE BUNDLE THAT'S PRESENTED IN FRONT OF YOU IS, UM, JUST SPECIFIC TO CITY DEPARTMENTS. WE ARE WORKING ON THE COMPREHENSIVE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PLAN THAT C C R CAME IN A LITTLE BIT AFTER BUDGET DEADLINES. SO WE'RE CATCHING UP TO THE BUDGET DEADLINES, AND WE WILL HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WILL BE SPECIFIC TO DELEGATE AGENCIES IN THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. OKAY. SO NOT NOT BEING DISCUSSED TODAY, BUT WILL BE PRESENTED AT SOME OTHER, THAT WILL BE PART OF THE MANAGER'S RECOMMENDED BUDGET THAT HE PRESENTS TO YOU IN AUGUST. OKAY. BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO CATCH UP. I JUST SOME CLARITY ON THAT BECAUSE, UM, I THINK AS YOU KNOW, DR. BRIDGER, IT'S, IT'S, UM, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT VIOLENCE, IT LOOKS A CERTAIN WAY AND PEOPLE ANTICIPATE PHYSICAL VIOLENCE, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY, IT COULD BE NEGLECT, IT COULD BE LACK OF CONNECTION TO SERVICES THAT CREATE INSTABILITY IN PEOPLE'S LIVES. AND THAT'S WHY I THINK THE TRAUMA-INFORMED CARE PIECE IS SO IMPORTANT. BUT THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER WAYS THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY DOING A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF SUPPORTING, AND PERHAPS IT'S TIME TO ADD ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THEM. SINCE OUR BUDGET FOR DELEGATE AGENCIES HASN'T GROWN SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, EXCEPT THROUGH SOME GRANT FUNDING. AND I THINK AS A RESULT, WE'VE BEEN SEEING INCREASES IN THINGS RELATED TO POVERTY, UM, IN ADDITION TO VIOLENCE AND ADDICTION AND ABUSE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THE OTHER THING I WOULD ADD TO THAT IS THAT THE TRAUMA-INFORMED CARE CERTIFYING ENTITY WOULD WORK ON BEHALF OF THOSE DELEGATE AGENCIES. THERE'S 180 DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS IN SAN ANTONIO WHO ARE PART OF THE GROUP WORKING ON THAT PARTICULAR [03:45:01] PIECE. UM, SO THIS WOULD STRENGTHEN THEIR ABILITY TO PROVIDE SERVICES IN A WAY THAT IS TRAUMA INFORMED. OKAY. ALRIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU. I'LL LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, THOSE DISCUSSIONS. COUNCILMAN . THANK YOU. UM, I'D LIKE TO KNOW IN THIS AREA, UM, OR DOES HOMELESSNESS, WHERE DOES HOMELESSNESS FIT IN? IS IT BUILT INTO SOMEWHERE IN HERE WITH STRONG FAMILIES AND CHILDREN? SO THE, THE, THE MOST TARGETED PROGRAM FOR HOMELESSNESS IS THE MENTAL HEALTH URGENT CARE CLINIC. OKAY. UM, THAT'S ONE OF THE FOCUS TARGET POPULATIONS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. UM, A LOT OF THESE OTHERS ARE MUCH FARTHER UPSTREAM IN AN EFFORT TO PREVENT HOMELESSNESS. OKAY. ESPECIALLY DUE TO SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER. UM, BUT TO ACTUALLY HELP PEOPLE WHO ARE HOMELESS TODAY, UH, IT WOULD BE THE MENTAL HEALTH URGENT CARE CLINIC IN A PRO. WELL, I GET IT. THIS IS ALL PREVENTATIVE TO WILL PREVENT HOMELESSNESS. EXACTLY. GOT IT. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ANY CONCERNS THAT NEED TO BE NOTED FOR THE RECORD? ANY INFORMATION REQUESTS? YES, SIR. YEAH, I'D LIKE TO CHIME IN ON THIS FROM THE POINT OF VIEW. I, I THINK IT'S A GREAT PLAN. I THINK THESE ARE VERY WELL, UH, NEEDED SERVICES. BUT I KNOW THIS IS, THIS IS KIND OF A BUDGETARY DISCUSSION AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO BE LOOKING, UH, TO, AS A FUNDING SOURCE, UH, FOR THIS, UH, TO PRE-K FOR SA AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT A PRETTY BIG BUDGET AND IT'S GONNA GET BIGGER BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA GET ADDITIONAL FUNDING FROM THE STATE BECAUSE THEY'VE RAISED THE PER CHILD, UH, REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE STATE BY A THOUSAND DOLLARS. AND WITH 2000 KIDS IN OUR, IN OUR PROGRAM, THAT'S, THEY KEEP THREE QUARTERS OF THAT MONEY THAT GOES PER STUDENT. SO IT'S GONNA BE AN EXTRA MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS. AND I KNOW THE OUTLOOK FOR THIS PROGRAM ITSELF WAS SOMEWHERE AROUND A MILLION AND MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN A MILLION DOLLARS. AND FROM THE PLAN I SEE IT TALKS ABOUT, UH, APPROACHES TO INCREASE RESILIENCE AND IMPROVED SCHOOL PERFORMANCE, UH, PROVIDES, UM, FOR HELP TO PREVENT CHILD ABUSE, MENTAL ILLNESS, VIOLENT BEHAVIOR. UM, IT'S TO IMPLEMENT, UH, HELP IN SCHOOL CURRICULUM TO FOSTER HEALTHY RELATIONSHIPS. A LOT OF THIS HAS TO DO WITH CHILDREN AND SCHOOL AND THEIR PARENTS AND THAT RELATIONSHIP. AND SO I THINK THAT THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT PRE-K FOR SA IS GOING TO GET, I THINK WOULD BE A KEY WAY OF FUNDING, UH, THIS, UH, TRAUMA, UH, INFORMED CARE PROGRAM. AND THERE ARE THINGS RELATED TO IT, UH, THE TRIPLE P AND, UH, YOU KNOW, MENTAL HEALTH AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE AS A WAY OF TRYING NOT TO JUST TAKE THINGS RIGHT OUT OF OUR GENERAL FUND WHEN THIS ADDITIONAL FUNDING'S COMING DOWN THE LINE FOR PRE-K FOR SA AND THEY'RE DOING THIS IN THEIR, IN THEIR SCHOOLS, AND THEY'RE ALSO HELPING WITH PARENTAL, UH, HELP AND THINGS AND OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT THEY'RE ALREADY HELPING IN. SO I THINK THIS WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE TO TURN TO FOR THAT. THANK YOU. THE COMMENTS NOTED FOR THE MANAGER TO CONSIDER WHEN HE PUTS THE BUDGET TOGETHER. YOU WANNA, OKAY. COUNCILMAN ELIAS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANNA THROW OUT THERE, UH, IS THAT YES, UH, YOU KNOW, INCREASED FUNDING FOR DELEGATE AGENCIES IS VERY IMPORTANT, BUT SO IS REALIGNMENT OF FUNDING, UH, FOR DELEGATE AGENCIES. AND WHAT I'M HOPING STAFF HAS PICKED UP THAT THE CITY COUNCIL, UM, IS UNANIMOUS RIGHT IN, UH, FEELING THIS ALARM AND URGENCY TO ADDRESS, UH, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND TO, YOU KNOW, TALK ABOUT THE STATUS OF WOMEN, UM, AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT COME WITH THE CHALLENGES, UH, THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY. AND SO ALONG THOSE LINES, ERIC, UH, BECAUSE OF THAT UNANIMITY, UH, AND BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN CRYSTAL CLEAR ABOUT THAT, I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT ALL OF OUR DELEGATE AGENCIES AND SEE FROM WHERE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO TRIM, UH, SOME OF THE INVESTMENT WE MAKE IN THOSE DELEGATE AGENCIES TO, YOU KNOW, HELP US, UH, ALIGN MORE WITH POLICIES. THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF TODAY'S MEETINGS. AND SO I'LL, I'LL THROW OUT AN EXAMPLE. UM, YOU KNOW, IT, AND I'M JUST GONNA PICK A, YOU KNOW, AN AGENCY AT RANDOM. BUT, YOU KNOW, UH, IF ESPANZA CENTER, FOR EXAMPLE, ISN'T DOING ANYTHING WITH REGARDS TO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, WELL THEN THEY NEED TO HAVE A SIT DOWN WITH US AND WE NEED TO DISCUSS WHAT IT IS THEY CAN DO TO HELP US LIFT THIS BURDEN. OR WE TAKE THEIR FUNDS OR SOME OF THEIR FUNDS AND APPLY 'EM TOWARDS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PROGRAMS. UM, AND I, I, I THINK THERE'S NOTHING WRONG AND WE SHOULDN'T BE AFRAID OF REDUCING FUNDS FOR SOME DELEGATE AGENCIES AND TO SEND THEM TO OTHER PLACES. UM, BECAUSE AGAIN, SIMPLY, YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU GET THOSE FUNDS, DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE GONNA GET 'EM FOREVER. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, A [03:50:01] DECISION TO GIVE YOU THOSE FUNDS ISN'T A SUICIDE PACT. RIGHT. UM, AND SO I'M, I'D LIKE TO SEE WHERE THE FLEXIBILITY MIGHT EXIST. ERIC, THANKS. THANK YOU FOR THAT. YES, MA'AM. AND THEN COUNCILMAN SULLIVAN, GO AHEAD. HI. UM, I WANTED TO MAKE A NOTE THAT TRAUMA-INFORMED CARE SHOULD BE INTEGRATED INTO THE FRAMEWORK. I THINK OF THE REST OF THESE PRIORITIES, NOT, NOT A KIND OF A STANDALONE, UM, PRIORITY. I THINK IT SHOULD BE INTEGRATED INTO ALL OF THEM. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN SULLIVAN, ARE WE LOOKING AT CITY FACILITIES? ARE WE JUST LOOKING AT OUTSIDE AGENCIES, UM, TO HELP MAYBE WITH THE HOUSING, UM, PROBLEM THAT COUNCILWOMAN GAN WAS SPEAKING OF WITH THE HOMELESSNESS THAT CAN CONTRIBUTE TO THIS, ARE WE JUST LOOKING AT SPECIFICALLY THE HAVEN FOR HOPE? WHAT SPECIFIC UNITS ARE WE LOOKING AT TO ACTUALLY HOUSE, UM, SOME OF THE MORE IMMEDIATE CASES THAT NEED TO BE REMOVED FROM THE PUBLIC SETTING, UM, FOR THE CITY TO HELP TRULY COMBAT THE ISSUES THAT COME ALONG WITH DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND, AND THE REMOVAL OF CHILDREN AND REMOVAL OF FAMILIES IN AN EMERGENCY SITUATION? IS THAT INCLUDED IN THIS BUDGET PROCESS OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT SEPARATELY? SO REGARDING HOMELESSNESS, UM, WE FUND OUTSIDE AGENCIES AND WE ALSO FUND INTERNAL CITY PROGRAMS AND BOTH WORK TOGETHER TO CREATE A COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH TO HOMELESSNESS. SO BOTH TRYING TO PREVENT HOMELESSNESS TO, TO DEAL WITH HOMELESSNESS WHEN IT'S A CRISIS SITUATION, AND THEN WORK WITH PEOPLE ONCE THE CRISIS IS OVER TO GET THEM, UM, INTO A POSITION WHERE THEY CAN GO BACK INTO THE WORLD AND BACK INTO A HOME. UH, SO WE'VE GOT THAT FULL CONTINUUM AND DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CONTINUUM ARE STAFFED BY DIFFERENT PARTS, EITHER THE COMMUNITY OR THE CITY. SO THERE'S NO SPECIFIC TRANSITION CENTER THAT THE CITY CAN ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT, UM, FROM ONE OF OUR CITY OWNED BUILDINGS OR CITY OWNED, UM, CENTERS THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY USE TO GIVE THEM A PLACE TO WHERE THEY CAN TRULY, ONCE THEY'RE UPROOTED IN THIS SITUATION, THERE'S NO PLACE THAT THE CITY CAN LOOK AT TO ACTUALLY HAVE THAT IMPLEMENTATION IN PLACE WITHIN THIS, THIS BUDGET. WELL, WE DO THAT THROUGH OUR PARTNERS HAVEN FOR HOPE IS A, A INCREDIBLE PARTNER THAT WE WORK WITH AND WE FUND, UM, THAT PROVIDES THAT, UH, COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH, THAT TRANSITION CENTER AS YOU DESCRIBED IT, UH, FOR WHAT PEOPLE NEED WHEN THEY NEED IT. IS THAT THE ONLY ONE WE HAVE? THERE ARE OTHER, THERE ARE OTHER AGENCIES WITHIN THE CONTINUUM AND WE CAN PUT TOGETHER A FACT SHEET THAT DESCRIBES HOW WE DEAL WITH HOMELESSNESS FROM A COMMUNITY PERSPECTIVE. AND WE'LL GET THAT TO YOU. THANK YOU. YES. I THINK THEY KEEP MENTIONING, JUST FOR YOUR BENEFIT, THE HAVEN FOR HOPE HAS ALL THE WRAPAROUND SERVICES IN ONE CAMPUS, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF DELEGATE AGENCIES THAT GET PEOPLE WHERE THEY NEED TO GO TO. SO THANK YOU. UM, I'M GONNA PRESS US TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON 'CAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE IN GENERAL SUPPORT OF THIS MEASURE. WE JUST NEED A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION THAT'LL COME OUT AS PART OF THE BUDGET PACKET, PROPOSED PACKET. UM, AS DR. BRIDGER MENTIONED, IT'LL BE PART OF THE PACKET THAT'LL EXPLAIN, UM, IN MORE DEPTH THAT THEY'RE JUST CATCHING UP TO THE BUDGET PROCESS. AND, AND LET ME JUST, UM, UM, COVER ONE THING. UM, AND IT'S, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A NEW POLICY ISSUE, BUT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL BEGAN TALKING ABOUT IN DECEMBER. AND THAT IS, UM, FUNDING FOR ADDITIONAL HOMELESS PROGRAMS AT, UH, AND HAVEN FOR HOPE. UM, THAT IS AN, THAT, THAT WORK WILL, WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THE SUMMER. REMEMBER THE CONCEPT THERE. AND THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL, UM, SEVERAL, UH, SUGGESTIONS MADE ABOUT, UH, REVENUE CHANGES IN ORDER TO, UM, DIRECT ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO HAVEN FOR HOPE. I'LL REMIND YOU ALSO, WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT USING ANY ADDITIONAL CITY MONEY THAT WOULD COME FROM REVENUE CHANGES AND LEVERAGING OTHER PUBLIC AGENCY MONEY, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT AS A COMMUNITY WE'RE ALL CONTRIBUTING. AND SO THAT WORK WILL BE GOING ON THIS SUMMER AS WELL. BUT, BUT THE IDEA IS THAT, IS THAT WE WILL COME UP WITH SOME OF THOSE ALTERNATIVES THAT WE SHARED WITH YOU EARLIER IN THE YEAR ON THAT AND, UH, TO THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS. WE WILL, UM, WE WILL PROVIDE THAT, THAT KINDA THAT BACKGROUND AND THE MEMOS AND THE PRESENTATIONS. AND WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT, UH, AT THE ORIENTATION, BUT WE DIDN'T. BUT WE'LL GET THAT TO YOU. OKAY? YES MA'AM. SO, UM, SO SHOULD THAT COMPREHENSIVE, UH, HOMELESSNESS STUDY, 'CAUSE WE WE DID IT THE MID-YEAR MM-HMM. , IS THAT GOING TO BE UNDER THE STRONG FAMILIES AND CHILDREN POLICIES? I, I, I WOULD SAY IT'S PROBABLY OUTSIDE OF IT. OKAY. BECAUSE IT'S BECAUSE THE, THE STRONG FAMILIES AND CHIL AND IT'S REALLY UP [03:55:01] TO, TO YOU GUYS, THE STRONG FAMILIES AND CHILDREN ISSUE WAS REALLY BORN OUT OF THE CONVERSATION ABOUT TRAUMA-INFORMED CARE, UH, ABOUT THE STATUS OF WOMEN REPORT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. I MEAN, THOSE ARE THE THREE BIG ISSUES UNDERNEATH THAT CATEGORY. THE HOMELESS ISSUE AND THE FUNDING ISSUE. THAT WAS AN INITIATED WITH BY THE COUNCIL IN DECEMBER. WE GOTTA DO THAT ANYWAY. AND SO I WOULD, I WOULD KEEP IT SEPARATELY, BUT IT'S UP TO YOU. THAT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. OKAY, WE'RE GONNA GO TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT TOPIC. AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE BEING MADE IS TO FOCUS ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING, 30% TO 50% OF A M I MAINTAIN OR INCREASE CURRENT FUNDING IN YEAR TWO OF BUSINESS PLAN CALLS FOR INCREASE OF UP TO 15 MILLION IN FUNDING . YES MA'AM. COUNCILMAN QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION ON THE MAINTAIN OR INCREASE CURRENT FUNDING. YEAH. COULD YOU PLEASE REMIND ME, VETO OR UM, LORI TELL ME WHAT WE APPROVED IN OUR LAST YEAR IN THE BUDGET AND THEN IN THE RESOLUTION THAT WE PASSED. 'CAUSE I REMEMBER WE PASSED A RESOLUTION THAT ALSO HAD A DOLLAR AMOUNT ATTACHED TO IT A YEAR AGO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO OUR CURRENT, OUR CURRENT BUDGET HAS 26.1 MILLION FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING CURRENTLY. SO THAT'S ALL DEVOTED TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WHAT? BUT THE PLAN HAD ALSO SAID THAT WE WERE GOING TO INVEST MORE IN THE FUTURE. SO THE PLAN AND HOW MUCH MORE IS IT, IT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO UP TO, UM, 30 MILLION ADDITIONAL. UM, LAST YEAR WE DIDN'T HIT THE 20 MILLION REQUESTED. WE GOT 17.1 NEW, UM, I THINK MARIA WANTS TO ADD TO THAT, BUT WE'RE ADDING PROPOSING 15 MILLION NEW FOR NEXT YEAR. I'M SORRY, DID YOU SAY 15 1 1 5 5 1 NUMBER ON THE SCREEN? CORRECT. OH, OKAY. SO THEN FOR MY CLARIFI MY POINT OF CLARIFICATION, ANOTHER ONE IS, SO ARE YOU SAYING TO MAINTAIN IT THAT 20 THAT WE DIDN'T HIT OR INCREASE IT FROM THE 20? SO COUNCILWOMAN TO CLARIFY, UH, IN THE BUDGET WE ADDED $25 MILLION IN TOTAL. UM, WE HAD 17 IN THE, UH, YEAR BEFORE WENT UP TO 25, WE GOT, UH, 1 MILLION DONATIONS. THAT'S 26 MILLION IN TOTAL. SO FOR 2020, THE 1 MILLION IN DONATION THAT WON'T BE THERE WITHIN THE 25 MILLION, THERE WAS $2 MILLION FROM THE HOUSING TRUST. SO THERE'S $3 MILLION TODAY THAT ARE NOT IN THE BASE BUDGET FOR 2020. SO IF THE COUNCIL'S DESIRE IS TO MAINTAIN THE CURRENT FUNDING OF 26, WE WOULD HAVE TO ADD $3 MILLION TO THE BUDGET. THE BUSINESS PLAN, THE YEAR TWO OF THE BUSINESS PLAN RECOMMENDED, UH, AN INCREASE OF $15 MILLION. SO THE WAY WE WROTE THIS IS THE COUNCIL COULD MAINTAIN IT, THAT MEANS $3 MILLION MORE THAN WHAT WE HAVE IN THE BASE OR UP TO $15 MILLION TO CONTINUE WITH, WITH THE YEAR TWO OF THE BUSINESS PLAN. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING. SO IS, AM I GATHERING THAT THAT'S REALLY THE DECISION POINT OR THE THING THAT YOU NEED DIRECTION ON IS WHETHER IT'S THAT EXTRA JUST 3 MILLION TO MAINTAIN OR THE ADDITIONAL 15? YES. YES. WELL, AND THE, THE, UH, POINT NUMBER ONE ON THERE, THE, THE, THAT, THAT GOES BACK TO THE PRESENTATION LAST WEEK WHEN WE LAID OUT, LORI, IF YOU WANNA RECAPTURE THAT, THAT CONVERSATION, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT LORI LAID OUT IN THE PRESENTATION LAST WEEK IS THAT THERE, THERE, UM, THERE SHOULD BE A FOCUS, UH, ON THAT 30 TO 50% A M I BECAUSE AS SHE LAID OUT THOSE STRATEGIES, UH, AND THE TARGETS, UM, THAT, THAT WE, WE WERE A LITTLE BIT BEHIND IN TERMS OF, UH, PROGRESS IN THAT AREA. AND I'LL PROVIDE SOME CLARIFICATION BASED ON THE TARGETS THAT THE HOUSING POLICY FRAMEWORK PROVIDED. WE ARE ON TRACK TO REACH THOSE TARGETS FOR THE 60 TO 80% A M I AND THE 50 TO 80% A M I. BUT WHERE WE'RE STRUGGLING IS AT 30 TO 50% A M I AND THAT BELOW 30% A M I. AND SO IF WE WERE TO GET AN ADDITIONAL $15 MILLION, WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE FOCUS THOSE RESOURCES ON BUILDING HOUSING THAT MEETS THAT 30 TO 50% A M I AND THAT BELOW 30% A M I AND THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING PRODUCTS. OKAY. WE FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE THAT THE OTHER DEMO, THE OTHER TARGET AREAS WILL BE ABLE TO MEET BASED ON THE PROGRAMS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE. EVERYBODY'S GOOD WITH THAT. ANY YEAH. YES SIR. YEAH, NO, OBVIOUSLY I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF, OF THIS. UH, AS WE ALSO ARE MOVING THROUGH THE POLICY [04:00:01] PRIORITIES, UH, FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, FOCUSING ON, UH, DEFINING AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT AS WELL. I KNOW WE'VE HAD THE CONVERSATION ABOUT DEFINING AFFORDABLE HOUSING HERE IS 60% A M I, WHICH I THINK WE NEED TO DO AS WELL AS CONTINUING THE BUSINESS PLAN ON COORDINATING THE HOUSING SYSTEM, UH, WITH, WITH AN EXECUTIVE. UM, SO WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO TO PLACE PRIORITY ON THAT, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S WHERE I'D LIKE TO BE. COURAGE AND INCENTIVE. THANK YOU. UH, I THINK THAT WE DO NEED TO EXPAND, UH, ADD TO THE FUNDING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT, UH, SOURCES OTHER THAN THE GENERAL FUND. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE IS LOOKING FOR INCREMENTAL GAINS AND OTHER AREAS THAT COULD BE PUT INTO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AREA. UM, YOU KNOW, AND IT, AND IT CAN COME FROM A VARIETY OF THINGS, UH, AND PROGRAMS. AND I, I'M WONDERING IF THE STAFF COULD EXPLORE WHAT RELATED PROGRAMS TO HOUSING, UH, THAT HAVE MAYBE, UM, MONIES LEFT OVER OR INCREMENTAL TAXES, UH, THAT MAY BE COMING THAT CAN BE DIRECTED TOWARD ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE FUTURE. I WOULD AGREE WE, WE SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST THE $3 MILLION. I DON'T KNOW, UH, HOW MUCH WE CAN AFFORD, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO ADDING $15 MILLION, BUT I THINK WE MADE A COMMITMENT AND I THINK WE NEED TO PROVE THAT WE'RE GOING TO LIVE UP TO THAT COMMITMENT. BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE OTHER AVENUES FOR ADDING TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, THAT WILL PROVIDE MORE THAN JUST AN INFLUX OF, OF GENERAL FUND DOLLARS. AND SO I DON'T KNOW HOW HARD WE CAN LOOK WHERE WE NEED TO SCRATCH THE SURFACE TO FIND SOME OF THAT ADDITIONAL RESOURCES OR WHAT FUND WE COULD PUT THEM INTO THAT WE'D BE DEDICATED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. BUT I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE WAY WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY, UH, THAT 3 MILLION, UH, I THINK WE NEED TO ADD IN THERE, BUT I, I REALLY BELIEVE WE NEED TO CONSIDER COMING UP WITH ADDITIONAL FUNDING. I JUST DON'T KNOW IF 15 MILLION IS SUSTAINABLE, BUT I SURE WANNA LIVE UP TO THE COMMITMENT THAT WE'VE MADE TO THE COMMUNITY, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. YES, SIR. UM, I, I HAD AN ISSUE WITH THIS AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUND COMING OUTTA THE GENERAL FUND TO BEGIN WITH, AND I STILL HAVE THAT, THAT ISSUE. I, I WOULD AGREE LOOKING AT OTHER FUNDING OUT SOURCES TO, TO DO THAT. BUT, UH, I'M, YOU KNOW, I I, I JUST GOT A PROBLEM WITH US TAKING IT OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND PERIOD TO FUND AFFORDABLE HOUSING HERE IN TOWN. IT'S A, YOU KNOW, WE GOT A GOOD REPORT FROM OUR, UM, CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY THAT THE HOUSING PRODUCTION WAS UP. UM, PRICES HAVE INCREASED, BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS ACROSS THE UNITED STATES, YEAH, THERE IS AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, CRUNCH. BUT I STILL SAY THAT PEOPLE ARE COMING HERE TO SAN ANTONIO BECAUSE IT IS AFFORDABLE HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. JOBS ARE AVAILABLE. UM, YOU LOOK AT OTHER METRO PLEXUS, THE HOUSING COST IS WAY ABOVE WHAT WE HAVE HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. AND EVENTUALLY OVER TIME THE MARKET WILL CATCH UP TO THE DEMAND. IT'S, IT'S CYCLICAL AND IT'S DEMAND ECONOMICS. WHAT'S DRIVING UP COST RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE WE HAVE A LARGE INFLUX OF PEOPLE COMING IN. IT'S SUPPLY AND DEMAND IS, IS WHAT IT IS. AND OVER TIME, WE WILL HAVE THE SUPPLY TO REDUCE THE OVERALL PRICING HERE FOR HOMES. AND AGAIN, PEOPLE ARE STILL COMING HERE TO SAN ANTONIO BECAUSE IT IS AFFORDABLE. SO I, I JUST, I JUST HAVE A REAL CONCERN OF, UM, TAKING MONEY OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING HERE IN TOWN. UH, IF THERE'S OTHERS. JOHN, LIKE YOU SAID, IF THERE'S OTHER FUNDING SOURCES OUT THERE SOMEWHERE, I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. BUT I STILL HAVE THAT GENERAL ISSUE OF FUNDING IT OUT OF OUR GENERAL FUND. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT. ANYBODY ELSE? YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. NO PUN INTENDED ABOUT THE GENERAL ISSUE, IT OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. UM, I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE WERE ABLE TO FIND OTHER FUNDING SOURCES FOR, FOR THIS AND FOR A NUMBER OF OUR, OF OUR EFFORTS. UM, BUT I, I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO CONTINUE, UH, ALONG THIS PATH AND, AND YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. UH, COUNCILMAN, IT'S A LOT CHEAPER HERE THAN IN OTHER PLACES LIKE, UM, ALONG [04:05:01] THE COAST, EITHER EAST COAST OR WEST COAST. BUT I MEAN, THAT DOESN'T HELP THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY LIVING HERE THAT ARE USED TO VERY LOW PRICES, UH, ON HOUSING AND SUDDENLY THEIR RENT IS, IS GOING UP A LOT. UM, SO WE DO NEED TO FIND SOME KIND OF, UH, REVENUE SOURCE FOR THIS. UM, I ALSO WOULD, UM, IT'S NOT JUST HOW MUCH MONEY WE PUT INTO THIS, BUT IT'S WHAT WE DO WITH THE MONEY THAT'S GOING TO ACTUALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE. SO IT'S NOT ENTIRELY CLEAR FROM, FROM HERE. RIGHT. WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO WITH THE MONEY, MY GUESS IS WE'RE GONNA FOLLOW THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE PLAN YES. THAT WERE PRESENTED. YES. OKAY. SO ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WAS TO, UH, BRING ON BOARD SOMEONE THAT WOULD COORDINATE ALL OF THE, THE DI THE DISPARATE HOUSING EFFORTS AND LET TELL YOU WHY ELSE I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. UM, I THINK WE HAVE SOME GREAT PROFESSIONALS ON STAFF THAT ARE CAPABLE OF, OF DOING A LOT OF THAT WORK, BUT WE ALSO HAVE A NUMBER OF OTHER AGENCIES THAT WORK IN HOUSING OUTSIDE OF, OF OUR ORGANIZATION. AND I THINK THAT CREATES, AT LEAST FOR ME, A LEVEL OF CONFUSION AS FAR AS WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO AND WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO. UM, SO THAT TOGETHER WE DO END UP WITH A BIGGER, UH, SUPPLY OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I THINK HAVING THAT CLEAR LEADER, UH, IN OUR, IN OUR CITY TO DO THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. UH, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO, UH, OUTSIDE PARTIES AS WELL. THEY WOULD KNOW WHO, WHO TO GO TO FOR THAT. AND OUT OF THAT OFFICE OR WHOEVER THAT IS, I THINK WE CAN, UH, GENERATE ADDITIONAL IDEAS FOR HOW TO CREATE MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. JUST THE OTHER DAY, COUNCILMAN BLIS FILED A C C R ON COMMUNITY. WAS IT COMMUNITY LAND TRUST? UM, WE'VE NEVER TALKED ABOUT THAT. UH, IN, IN OUR POLICY OR I DON'T REMEMBER IF WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THOSE. I WAS READING AN ARTICLE ABOUT CHURCHES, UH, BUILDING ON THEIR PROPERTY BECAUSE THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY IN OTHER PARTS OF THE US BECAUSE THEY HAVE THAT EXCESS LAND AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY PROPERTY TAXES ON THAT, THAT IT CREATES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING WE SEE IN OTHER PLACES, UH, TINY VILLAGES, UH, COMING UP. SO I GUESS WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE US DO WITH SOME OF THIS MONEY IS GENERATE THOSE IDEAS AND NEW IDEAS AND PUT THEM INTO, INTO ACTION. THANK YOU. OKAY. IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE AT SOME LEVEL EVERYBODY SUPPORTS AT LEAST KEEPING THE, MAKING IT WHOLE WITH THE EXTRA 3 MILLION. SO I'M GONNA LEAVE IT BACK WITH THE MANAGER TO DECIDE HOW MUCH IS GONNA BE PALATABLE FOR THE ENTIRE GROUP. SO WE'RE GONNA GO TO STEP TO THE NEXT TOPIC. THANK YOU ALL. PUBLIC SAFETY POLICE. WE'LL GIVE THE CHIEF A SECOND TO GET UP HERE. UM, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS ASKING FOR NEW POLICE OFFICER POSITIONS TO ADDRESS NEIGHBORHOOD PATROL ESTABLISHMENT OF NEIGHBORHOOD NIGHTLIFE CORRIDORS, ENHANCE THE CRISIS, RESPOND TEAM SUPERVISION AND ADDITIONAL SAFE OFFICERS. ARE THERE ANY CLARIFYING QUESTIONS? AGAIN, THIS WAS A PRESENT, THE SAME PRESENTATION. IT'S JUST IN A NUTSHELL FROM THE B SESSION. I GOT A THUMBS UP OVER HERE AND WE, WELL, UH, ONE, ONE ADDITION, WE ADDED THAT FOURTH BULLET 'CAUSE BASED ON SOME OF THE COMMENTS LAST WEEK AT THE PRESENTATION, THERE WAS SOME TALK ABOUT SAFE OFFICERS, SO WE ADDED THAT ON THERE. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE CHIEF? I HAVE A QUESTION. SURE. , I THINK I KNOW WHAT IT IS, BUT I'LL LET YOU PRESENT IT. . UM, MY QUESTION IS, UH, I REMEMBER THE NEIGHBORHOOD NIGHTLIFE CORRIDORS, BUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD PATROL, CAN YOU, WHAT WAS, I DON'T REMEMBER THAT. THERE WERE, THERE WERE, THERE WERE 15 COUNCILWOMAN, UH, THAT WOULD BE ADDED FOR PATROL. THAT WAS THE GENERAL REQUEST FOR 15 ADDITIONAL OFFICERS. OH, OKAY. YEAH, THAT WAS, THEY JUST SUMMARIZED IT DIFFERENT IN THE OH, OKAY. PRESENTATION. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. UH, COUNCILMAN GARCIA CHIEF, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. DO WE EVER WORK IN CONNECTION WITH YOU OR, UM, T C I WORK IN CONNECTION WITH YOU, LIKE FOR A POSSIBLE STUDY OF LIGHTING IN HIGH CRIME AREAS? OR HAVE WE SAY THAT AGAIN MA'AM. A, A STUDY OF LIGHTING IN HIGH CRIME AREAS? I'M TALKING ABOUT LIKE STREET LIGHTING FIRST. NO MA'AM. WE, WE HAVE NOT TALKED ABOUT THAT, UH, FROM A, FROM A LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSPECTIVE. OKAY, BECAUSE I JUST FIGURED, AND AGAIN, JUST FROM MY ONE NIGHT RIDE ALONG, UH, WITH YOUR OFFICERS, I NOTICED THAT, UH, THE AREAS WHERE, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS RECURRING TROUBLE, THE LIGHTING LACKED AND, UM, I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING FOR, UM, FOR US TO CONSIDER. SOMETIME. ONE, ONE THING I'LL ADD IS THAT, IS THAT, UM, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT THE ORIENTATION, BUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE PATROL OFFICERS AND THE SAFE OFFICERS DO, DO LIGHTING SURVEYS OF AREAS SO THAT THEY CAN IDENTIFY, UM, EITHER, UH, AREAS [04:10:01] THAT NEED ADDITIONAL LIGHTING AND THEN WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO SUBMIT 'EM TO THE PROCESS. UM, THAT ALSO GETS INTO THE, YOU KNOW, AS CCPS RIGHT, GOES THROUGH THE, WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF INSTALLING THE LIGHTS. UM, UM, THE, THE OTHER THING THAT, THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DOES, UM, IS IDENTIFY LIGHTS WHERE THE BULBS ARE AT IF THEY HAVEN'T BEEN CALLED IN. BUT I THINK TO YOUR POINT, AND, AND THIS FOR OTHERS, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBER ORIENTATION, UM, THE ISSUE ABOUT HOW ARE WE STANDARDIZING THAT APPROACH AND ENSURING THAT NEIGHBORHOODS EITHER WORKING THROUGH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES OR THE SUBSTATIONS OR SAFE OFFICERS, UM, HOW BEST SHOULD WE, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT PROCESS DO WE PUT IN PLACE TO HELP FACILITATE THAT CELL? THANK YOU, ERIC. AND THEN MY QUICK SECOND QUESTION IS, I KNOW COUNCILWOMAN VRAN HAD MENTIONED ON THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD NIGHT NIGHTLIFE CORRIDORS. WHEN WILL THOSE BE FINALIZED? I KNOW SHE HAD ASKED FOR, UM, THE MILITARY, UH, DRIVE AREA, IF YOU WILL. THE, THE RACING AREA THAT WE CALL IN THE SOUTH SIDE. UH, WHEN ARE WE FINALIZING THOSE CORRIDORS? OR IS THERE STILL CONSIDERATION TO POSSIBLY ADD THAT ONE. I I'M OPEN FOR CONSIDERATION FOR OTHERS AS WELL, BUT THE ONES THAT WE HAVE, HAVE IDENTIFIED HAVE BEEN ONES WHERE, UH, THE, THE NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE COMPLAINED BECAUSE OF THE NOISE, UH, THE, THE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE SURROUNDING THESE, THESE CORRIDORS. AND, UH, UH, BETWEEN THE, THE NOISE AND THE, AND THE, WHEN THE BARS BREAK OUT, THE QUALITY OF LIFE SUFFERS. BUT, BUT I'M, YOU KNOW, I, WE ARE OPEN FOR OTHER SUGGESTIONS AS WELL. THANK YOU, CHIEF COUNCILMAN TREVINO. THANK YOU. UM, I JUST WANT TO ITERATE MY SUPPORT FOR, FOR THOSE OFFICERS IN, IN THOSE ENTERTAINMENT, UH, CORRIDORS AND ZONES. UH, I THINK IT, UH, IT'S, IT, IT IS, IT ALIGNS WITH A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE'RE ALSO DOING WITH REGARDS TO EXISTING PLANS. AND SO I JUST WANNA THANK YOU, CHIEF FOR THAT. IT'S, AS YOU POINTED OUT, AT THE HEART OF THIS, UH, IS A VERY DENSELY POPULATED AREA OF, OF NEIGHBORHOODS AND, AND HOUSES. AND SO, UH, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE, UH, A GOOD ADDITION FOR, FOR OUR CITY. SO I JUST WANNA SAY THANKS. UH, I THINK A LOT OF FOLKS, A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT I'VE SPOKEN TO IN THE AREA ARE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN SULLIVAN. AND THEN COURAGE. UH, THANK YOU CHIEF SO MUCH, UH, FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO HERE IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. I WAS WONDERING AS FAR AS FOR THE SUMMER PATROLLING, UM, WITH A LOT OF THE YOUTH BEING OUT OF SCHOOL, UM, I KNOW YOU'RE ASKING FOR THE 15 NEIGHBORHOOD PATROL. ARE THERE ANY OTHER, UM, COMMUNITY PATROL SUCH AS THE CITIZENS ON PATROL OR, UM, ANY KIND OF SPOT CHECKING THAT YOU HAVE INCLUDED IN MAKING SURE THAT THESE AREAS THAT ARE VERY HIGH IN, IN THE CRIME STATISTICS ARE ACTUALLY COVERED DURING THE SUMMER PORTION? UM, AS YOU'RE LOOKING TO ACTUALLY HAVE A FULL STAFF? YES, MA'AM. THE, THE, UH, WE STUDY THE CRIME MAPS FOR HOTSPOTS, AND DURING THE SUMMER, THOSE, THOSE HOTSPOTS PROBABLY INCREASE A LITTLE BIT. UH, THE VIOLENT CRIME TASK FORCE IS SATURATES THOSE AREAS, BUT, BUT I, I SHOULDN'T SAY THAT, THAT'S KIND OF A BAD EXPLANATION. WE GO AFTER SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS. WE GO AFTER SPECIFIC ADDRESSES. WE GO AFTER SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOODS BASED ON THE CRIME THAT WE SEE ON THE MAPS. SO, SO IN TERMS OF, UM, UM, STAFFING FOR HOTSPOTS, WE DO THAT WITH THE VIOLENT CRIME TASK FORCE AND THE COVERT UNITS AS WELL. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. COUNCILMAN TREVINO. KEEP IT SHORT. , I, I LEFT ONE, I LEFT ONE, ONE THING OUT QUICKLY. I, 'CAUSE I, WE, WE TALKED ABOUT LIGHTING. UH, I WANNA MENTION THAT WE HAVE AN URBAN LIGHTING PLAN THAT WE DID, AND I JUST AS, AS WE LOOK AT HOW WE'RE DOING, UM, ADDRESSING LIGHTING ISSUES, THAT WE HAVE A, A VERY, VERY THOUGHTFUL PLAN THAT, UH, LOOKED INTO A LOT OF THIS. AND, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS WE NEED TO BUILD IN IS SOME CONSISTENCY WHEN IT COMES TO LIGHTING. SO, UM, I WOULD ASK THAT THAT, THAT BE A PART OF HOW, HOWEVER, SS A P D IS, IS PLAYING A ROLE IN, IN ADDRESSING OR ADHERING TO SOME OF THE LIGHTING ISSUES, UH, THAT THE URBAN LIGHTING PLAN IS, IS SOMETHING WE, WE LOOK AT. SO, UM, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION. SO WHERE DOES THE LIGHTING COME IN? IS THAT, WHAT DEPARTMENT WOULD THAT BE UNDER THE, UH, PROBABLY UNDER TRANSPORTATION CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS? WOULD THAT BE T C I? OKAY, I JUST WANTED TO ASK. IT'LL BE T C I. OKAY. I WASN'T SURE. I THINK WE DID THE STUDY UNDER CENTER CITY, BUT, OKAY. AND, AND IF I COULD JUST COMMENT ON THE LIGHTING, UH, SITUATION. WE, WE TALK ABOUT WHEN THERE'S A LIGHTING ISSUE, WE TALK ABOUT IT AT COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND WE [04:15:01] TAKE A, TYPICALLY WILL REPORT BACK TO A COUNCIL OFFICE WITH THAT. UH, AND IT DOES GO OVER TO T C I, BUT WE DO, WE DO TALK ABOUT THAT, UH, COMMUNITY MEETINGS WHEN WE, UH, WHEN THE ISSUE COMES UP AND THERE'S CONCERN, RIGHT? WELL, BUT DURING THE, THE PROCESS, I JUST WANT S A P D WAS VERY MUCH INVOLVED IN HELPING TO CREATE THAT LIGHTING PLAN. AND SO I JUST WANNA REITERATE, WE HAVE A PLAN AND I, I JUST HOPE THAT WE DON'T SHELF IT. AND, AND SO HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF HOW PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR THESE THINGS AND, AND HOW DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, UH, DO NEED TO, UH, SORT OF, UH, COLLABORATE AND, AND, AND HELP TO ADDRESS, UM, THESE, THESE KINDS OF ISSUES WITH, WITH PLANS THAT ALREADY EXIST. OKAY. VERY GOOD. UH, COUNCILMAN PERRY AND THEN . THANK YOU, UH, CHIEF, THANKS FOR PUTTING THIS CHART TOGETHER ON THE OFFICERS PER THOUSAND PEOPLE. UH, AND I THINK THAT'S VERY INTERESTING. I HOPE EVERYBODY'S TAKEN A LOOK AT THAT. BUT AGAIN, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE, UH, TOP THREE AREAS THAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR IS SAFETY AND SECURITY HERE IN TOWN. AND, UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT, YOU SAY, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, OUT OF ALL THESE CITIES, WE'RE THE LARGER CITIES, PARTICULARLY HERE IN TEXAS, WE'RE, WE'RE FAR BELOW, UH, THE MANPOWER WHAT THESE OTHER CITIES ARE DOING. AND I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT IF OUR CRIME IS THAT MUCH LESS THAN THESE OTHER CITIES. AND THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING FROM, UH, GOING TOWARDS ON ASKING FOR THAT COMPARISON DATA WITH THESE OTHER CITIES ON, REMEMBER THAT CHART THAT YOU SHOWED ON THE DECREASE ON EVERY ONE OF THOSE LINE ITEMS YES. ON AT LEAST TAKING THOSE LINE ITEMS AND TRYING TO FIND THAT DATA FROM THOSE OTHER CITIES TO SEE, DO WE HAVE A, A LARGER CRIME ISSUE THAN THESE OTHER CITIES, BUT YET WE HAVE FEWER POLICE OFFICERS, OR IS THERE A SMALLER, UH, AMOUNT OF CRIME HERE IN SAN ANTONIO TO SAY, YES, WE DON'T NEED AS MANY POLICE OFFICERS PER THOUSAND PEOPLE. SO HELP, HELP ME OUT HERE. WHY, WHY ARE WE THIS MUCH BELOW THESE OTHER, OTHER CITIES? WELL, WE'VE, WE'VE ASKED FOR, UH, OFFICERS JUST ABOUT EVERY YEAR AND, AND BASICALLY WE, WE GET WHAT THE COUNCIL GIVES US. UM, THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, UH, WE DID NOT, UH, WE'VE BEEN FOCUSING ON FILLING OUR VACANCIES AS, AS I THINK YOU SUGGESTED, COUNCILMAN. ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. AND, AND OUR VACANCIES ARE NOW FILL ALMOST MINUS 58. WE HAVE A CLASS OF AT LEAST 70 STARTING ON JULY 8TH. SO WE SHOULD BE, AS I SAID, FLUSH OR, UM, BEYOND FLUSH ON JULY 8TH. UM, AND I, I GUESS NOW WOULD BE THE TIME WE CAN START CONCENTRATING ON ADDING RESOURCE, ADDING MORE PERSONNEL, IF THAT'S WHAT THE COUNCIL WANTS US TO DO. WELL, AGAIN, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE, AT LEAST IN MY DISTRICT, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ASKING FOR IS ADDITIONAL RESOURCES TO, UH, COMBAT, UH, CRIME. AND, UM, BUT AGAIN, I, I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE STAND MANPOWER WISE. WELL, I DO KNOW WHERE WE STAND MANPOWER WISE, BUT HOW DO WE COMPARE TO THESE OTHER CITIES IN LIGHT CRIMES THAT WE CAN TRACK AND COMPARE TO AT LEAST SAY, OKAY, WELL WE DON'T NEED THIS MANY PEOPLE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THIS, THAT MANY CRIMES PROPORTIONALLY TO THESE OTHER CITIES AS WELL. WELL, FROM A, FROM A VIOLENT CRIME PERSPECTIVE, IF, IF YOU WANNA LOOK AT THE, THE U C R STATS, WE'RE, WE'RE NUMBER 29, UH, ACROSS, UH, THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. IF, IF YOU WANNA LOOK AT THE U C R STATS AND COMPARE THAT, UM, WE'RE 13 IN PROPERTY CRIMES BASED ON PER THOUSAND POPULATION. BUT, BUT AGAIN, I WOULD, I WOULD CAUTION YOU, UH, OR ANYONE NOT TO COMPARE CITY TO CITY SAFETY, HOW SAFE IT IS OR HOW VIOLENT IT IS BASED ON U C R NUMBERS, BECAUSE ALTHOUGH THE REPORTING CRITERIA IS THE SAME, IT'S REPORTED DIFFERENTLY. AND I CAN, I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT. AND THERE, THERE MIGHT BE SUBTLE DIFFERENCES ALONG, UH, BETWEEN THOSE STATISTICS, HOW PEOPLE ARE REPORTING, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, THEY'RE CAPTURING THE DATA, GENERALLY SPEAKING THE SAME WAY. UM, AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WHERE DO WE, WHERE DO WE DRAW THE LINE THAT SAYS, OKAY, WE'VE GOT ENOUGH POLICE OFFICERS HERE, UH, TO HANDLE THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE, WE'RE FACING TODAY AND TOMORROW AND NEXT YEAR. SO THAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT, IS TRYING TO JUSTIFY THE NUMBER OF POLICE OFFICERS THAT WE HAVE AND OR HOW MANY MORE WE'RE REQUESTING. WHY ARE WE, WERE WE REQUESTING THAT? WELL, TH UH, 32 WAS REASONABLE WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS AND, AND WE SPECIFIED THE ONES THAT, THE POSITIONS THAT WE WANTED TO FILL. UH, AGAIN, FILLING OUR VACANCIES WAS THE PRIMARY, UM, [04:20:01] WAS THE PRIMARY GOAL. WE'VE DONE THAT NOW. SO I GUESS AS WE GO FORWARD, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE SOME ADDITIONAL REQUESTS FOR, FOR, UH, ADDITIONAL POLICE OFFICERS. I'M NOT, I'M NOT FIGHTING, I'M NOT FIGHTING THE COUNCIL ON ADDING MORE POLICE OFFICERS. I'LL TAKE AS MANY AS YOU WANT TO GIVE ME , BUT AGAIN, IT IS GOTTA BE BASED ON SOMETHING. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT. AND I, YOU KNOW, THE WAY I SEE THE 32, WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IS AN ARBITRARY NUMBER. IT'S NOT BASED ON ANYTHING OTHER THAN LET'S GET 30 MORE, 32 MORE AUTHORIZATIONS ON THE BOOKS. WELL, WE'RE, WE'RE BASING THAT PRIMARILY ON THE 60 40 RATIO. 60 60, UM, UM, ON-CALL TIME AND 40%, UH, UH, DISCRETIONARY TIME. THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BUILT THIS MODEL ON 60 40. UM, COUNCILMAN, AND JUST TO ADD TO WHAT THE CHIEF MENTIONED, LAST YEAR, WE DEVELOPED A STAFFING MODEL FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT TO, UH, SPECIFICALLY LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF CALLS. AND AS THE CHIEF MENTIONED, LOOKING AT BEST PRACTICES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, WE LANDED ON A MODEL WHERE OUR, WE WOULD LIKE OUR POLICE OFFICERS TO USE 60% OF THEIR TIME ON CALL AND 40% PROACTIVE PATROLLING THE NEIGHBORHOODS. UH, THE CHIEF AND HIS TEAM LOOKED AT EVERY SUBSTATION AND EVERY SHIFT WITHIN THOSE, UH, UH, SUBSTATIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD THE ADEQUATE NUMBER OF OFFICERS TO BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE THAT RATIO. SO THAT IS A MODEL THAT, THAT THE CHIEF UTILIZED TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT HE'S MAKING TODAY. OKAY, GREAT. YEAH, CHIEF, I'M NOT FIGHTING YOU ON, UH, BRINGING ON NEW POLICE OFFICERS, BUT AGAIN, LOOKING AT THE NUMBER PER THOUSAND RESIDENTS, IT JUST LOOKS LOW COMPARED TO THESE OTHER CITIES. AND IS THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE LESS CRIME HERE, OR ARE WE TRULY, UH, NEEDING THAT MANY MORE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES TO, UH, CONTROL CRIME HERE IN SAN ANTONIO? THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM ON THIS, AND I, YOU KNOW, I'D REALLY LIKE TO DIG INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE TO, YOU KNOW, THE 60 40, IF THAT'S, IF THAT'S GREAT. WHAT, WHAT IS THAT DOING TO OUR CRIME RATE HERE IN SAN SAN ANTONIO COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES? SO THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR. I THINK WE CAPTURED IT. YEP. THANK YOU, . THANK YOU. UM, THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUE FOR MENTIONING THE NIGHTLIFE, UH, CORRIDORS. AND I WANNA CONCUR, I THINK, UM, EXPANDING IT TO THESE NIGHTLIFE CORRIDORS SUCH AS MILITARY DRIVE, UM, LOOKING AT THE DRAG RACING AND THE, WHAT HAPPENS THERE, IT DOES IMPACT THE NEIGHBORHOODS. UM, MAYBE NOT ON THE EXACT, WELL, NO, THEY DO RACE THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS AS WELL, AND THEY END UP CRASHING. SO IF WE CAN LOOK AT ENHANCING THAT OR BEING MORE CREATIVE, UM, WITH THOSE NIGHTLIFE CORRIDORS, I'D REALLY, UH, LIKE TO SEE THAT, UM, YES MA'AM, CHIEF, AND THEN ALSO IN THE SPIRIT OF JUST DOING IT BETTER AND SHOOTING FOR THE STARS, I AM GOING TO AGAIN SAY THAT DISTRICT THREE NEEDS A POLICE SUBSTATION, AND, UM, ALSO LOOKING AT WHAT THE ELEMENTS AND THE ASSETS ARE, UM, MR. WALSH, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, UM, TO BE ABLE TO ALLEVIATE THE COVERAGE THAT OUR OFFICERS HAVE TO DO ON THE EAST SIDE AND THEN ON THE, UH, SOUTH AND THE SOUTHWEST SIDE. UM, SO I'LL BE CONTINUING TO, TO WORK ON THAT TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO ALLEVIATE THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, COUNCILMAN COURAGE. AND THEN I'M GONNA PROBABLY WRAP UP THIS TOPIC SO WE CAN GO TO BREAK. YES. CHIEF, YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT BEFORE. I REALLY BELIEVE WE DO NEED MORE POLICE OFFICERS IN THE DEPARTMENT, AND I THINK WE NEED MORE PATROL OFFICERS. YOU AND I HAD TALKED, AND I THINK WE, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S ABOUT 500 PATROL OFFICERS THAT GO THROUGH THE THREE DIFFERENT SHIFTS AND THE, UH, A HUNDRED AND WHAT, 20 DIFFERENT PATROL ZONES? ONE 15. ONE 15, THANK YOU. UH, BUT THAT MEANS THAT THERE'S ABOUT 2000 POLICE OFFICERS THAT ARE DOING SOMETHING ELSE. AND, AND I'M SORRY, COUNCILMAN, JUST TO CLARIFY, UH, SINCE OUR POLICE OFFICERS OR OUR SERVICES ARE 24 7, UM, WE ACTUALLY HAVE 1100 OFFICERS ASSIGNED TO NEIGHBORHOOD PATROL TO BE ABLE TO COVER 24 7 COVERAGE. SO I THINK WHEN YOU DID THE CALCULATION, MAYBE WAS JUST LOOKING AT, UM, OFFICERS COVERING THOSE SHIFTS. BUT OUR OFFICERS STILL, OF COURSE, HAVE TO TAKE VACATION TIME TRAINING, ET CETERA. SO BE ABLE TO STAFF NEIGHBORHOOD PATROL. WE HAVE ABOUT 1100, UH, POLICE OFFICERS ASSIGNED TO NEIGHBORHOOD PATROL, BUT WE ONLY GET ABOUT 500 OF 'EM OUT IN A DAY DURING A DAY PATROLLING. UH, AND OKAY, SO THERE'S 1100 WHO ARE ASSIGNED PATROL, BUT WHAT ARE THEY DOING WHEN THEY'RE [04:25:01] NOT ON PATROL OR ON VACATION DAY OFF, SICK LEAVE, DAY OFF DAY, OFF COURT, SICK, WHATEVER, WHATEVER COURT. BUT THE RATIO BETWEEN PATROL AND NONT PATROL OFFICERS IS, IS BALANCED IN TERMS OF YOUR INVESTIGATIVE AND YOUR COVERT AND YOUR, YOUR, UM, UM, WELL, YOUR INVESTIGATORS AND HOW MANY POSITIONS DO YOU THINK COULD BE REPLACED WITH, UH, CIVILIANS DOING THE WORK? UH, SO THAT OFFICERS ARE MORE ABLE TO BE OUT DOING OTHER DUTIES RIGHT NOW? YEAH. UH, ZERO. SO THERE'S, THERE ARE NO OFFICERS THAT COULD BE REPLACED BY A CIVILIAN DOING THAT JOB. WE, WE, WE HAVE OVER THE YEARS, WE HAVE SWEPT THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT WITH A FINE TOOTH COMB AND, AND HAVE CIVILIANIZED EVERY POSITION THAT BY CONTRACT WE CAN CIVILIANIZED. YEAH. WELL, THAT'S DUE TO THE CONTRACT WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, I MEAN THE POLICE UNION. CORRECT. BUT IN NEGOTIATING WITH THE POLICE UNION, ARE THERE JOBS THAT COULD BE DONE BY CIVILIANS THAT ARE BEING DONE BY UNIFORMED OFFICERS RIGHT NOW? AND ABOUT HOW MANY WOULD YOU GUESS? YES. I BELIEVE THAT THE, ABOUT THE ONLY CIVILIAN JOBS OR, UH, JOBS THAT ARE REMAINING IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT COULD, COULD BE DONE BY CIVILIANS IS THE OFF-DUTY EMPLOYMENT, UH, UNIT. AND WE JUST GOT SUED, UH, BY, BY THE, BY THE UNION. UM, OR IS IT A SUED OR IS A LAWSUIT OR A GRIEVANCE LAWSUIT, UH, TO, UH, TO REPLACE THE, UH, UNIFORM POSITIONS THAT WE'VE REPLACED WITH NON UNIFORMS. SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT AND REPLACED EVERYONE THAT WE POSSIBLY COULD, UH, THAT COULD BE ON THE STREET WITH, UNDER CONTRACT BY THE, BY THE RULES OF THE CONTRACT. WELL, I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER THING TO GO BY OTHER THAN THE CONTRACT. RIGHT. WELL, THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO PRESENT IT, IT GOES ALONG WITH WHAT COUNCILMAN VIE GRAND JUST SAID. YOU KNOW, UH, WE, WE COMPARE OURSELVES TO OTHER PLACES, AND I WAS DOING A LITTLE RESEARCH. SAN DIEGO HAS 1.4 MILLION PEOPLE. THEY ONLY HAVE 1,834 POLICE OFFICERS, BUT THEY HAVE 10 POLICE STATIONS IN THEIR CITY. THEY HAVE 10 WHAT? 10 POLICE STATIONS. STATIONS, OKAY. IN THEIR CITY. WE'VE GOT, WHAT? 4, 5, 6, 6. SO I THINK WE DEFINITELY, I KNOW I DO IN DISTRICT NINE, OUR AREA HAS EXPLODED AND IT'S, WELL, IT'S PRETTY FAR AWAY. I THINK WE NEED TO REALLOCATE, UH, SOME OF THE DISTRIBUTION OF THOSE OFFICERS. MAYBE THEY'LL BE CLOSER TO THE COMMUNITIES AND BE ABLE TO DO MORE. BUT I KNOW THAT THAT COSTS MONEY TO DO THAT. AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, WHEN I SAY THEY ONLY HAVE 1,834 POLICE OFFICERS, SO WE SAY, BOY, THEY HAVE LESS THAN US. THEY'VE GOT 4,000 SHERIFFS IN THE SAME COUNTY WHERE WE'VE GOT 1800. SO IF YOU REALLY LOOK AT ALL OF THE COMBINED LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT WE HAVE IN, IN SAN ANTONIO AND BEXAR COUNTY COMPARED TO ALL THESE OTHER CITIES ON OUR LIST AND SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES FROM OTHER STATES THAT WE LOOK AT AND COMPARE OURSELVES TO, WE ARE WELL BELOW THE NUMBER OF SWORN OFFICERS PROTECTING PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY, THEN ALMOST ALL OF THESE OTHER CITIES. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO REMAIN DILIGENT ABOUT IN INCREASING THE NUMBER OF POLICE OFFICERS AND SPREADING 'EM OUT MORE. THANK YOU. OKAY. I THINK THE CONCERNS HAVE BEEN VOICED AND WE'RE GONNA GO WELL, UM, I THINK WE'LL GO AHEAD AND I WAS GONNA, ARE YOU GONNA DO THE POLICY THING REAL QUICK? OKAY. JUST REAL QUICK, I JUST WANNA, I JUST WANNA COMPLETE THE CONVERSATION HERE. SO THESE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE GONNA GO FORWARD TO THE CITY MANAGER AND HE WILL FIGURE OUT HOW TO BALANCE THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN EXPRESSED. OKAY. J JUST REAL QUICK, UH, AND JUST FOR EVERYBODY, THERE ARE, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST WEEK, THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES AND, AND ANY LARGE DEPARTMENT THAT'S GOT A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT PERIODICALLY NEEDS TO GO SHAKE THE COBWEBS OFF AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE AS CAN CIVILIANIZED AS MANY POSITIONS AS WE CAN. IN THE LAST, UH, EIGHT OR NINE YEARS, WE'VE PROBABLY CIVILIANIZED 90 POSITIONS IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THAT'S 90 OFFICERS THAT ARE NO LONGER DEALING WITH PAPER, BUT ARE IN A POLICE CAR. SO THERE ARE PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES AND WE NEED TO DO THE GROUNDWORK TO GET PREPPED FOR THE 2021 POLICE CONTRACT. NUMBER TWO, AND I'M GONNA BE FACILITATOR HERE FOR A SECOND BECAUSE I HEARD A LOT OF GOOD COMMENTS, BUT THERE'S FOUR DIFFERENT CATEGORIES UP THERE, AND I DIDN'T REALLY GET A GOOD SENSE OF BEYOND THAT. WE NEED MORE OFFICERS ABOUT WHICH ONES ARE MORE IMPORTANT FROM EVERYBODY. WRONG. WELL, WHICH ONES ARE MORE IMPORTANT? . AND LET'S, AND MAYBE, MAYBE THAT'S, MAYBE, MAYBE I WON'T GET THAT. . I HEARD NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, I HEARD MILITARY, BUT, UM, I HEARD, I HEARD THAT. SAFE, SAFE, SAFE. SAFE. SAFE. AND CRISIS RESPONSE. SAFE. MM-HMM. . . [04:30:02] OKAY. AND SUBSTATION. DID YOU HEAR SAFE? OKAY, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO, , I HEARD IT. I HAVE, UH, 2 51. WE'RE GONNA TAKE A 10 MINUTE BREAK. PLEASE COME BACK AT 3 0 1. BE IN YOUR SEAT AT 3 0 1 SO WE CAN CONTINUE. AND WHEN WE COME BACK AS PART OF THE AFTERNOON EXERCISE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DECIDE ON YOUR PRIORITY NUMBER ONE. SO BE AWARE OF THAT WHEN YOU COME BACK TO THE SECOND HALF. THANK YOU. OKAY. FAKE FOLKS. WE'RE GONNA START WITH, THANK YOU. FIRE. DO YOU WANNA DO IT OR WHO'S ON, WHO'S ON FIRST? ME, OR, WELL, THAT'S EASY, . OKAY. SO THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS TO HAVE 15 NEW FIREFIGHTERS AND ONE LADDER TRUCK. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. AND ONE LADDER TRUCK. ANY, DOES ANYBODY NEED ANY CLARIFICATION ABOUT THIS REQUEST? I WOULD HOPE NOT, BUT I JUST WANNA BE SURE WE GET QUESTIONS ANSWERED BEFORE WE GET INTO DISCUSSION. IS THAT ALL CHIEF? IS THAT ALL I'M ASKING FOR? COUNCIL MIGHT ASKED FOR A FIRE STATION ON EVERY CORNER IF IT MADE SENSE, BUT AGAIN, WE HAVE PLANS AND THIS IS WHAT WE NEED, SO YES, SIR. OKAY. COUNCIL VIE GONE? YES. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS IN THE BACKUP, BUT CHIEF, IS THERE A WAY THAT YOU COULD PLEASE PROVIDE, UM, ME OR US THE RE HOW YOU HAVE REALLOCATED LADDER TRUCKS IN THE PAST TWO YEARS FROM MAYBE ONE STATION TO ANOTHER, JUST TO MAKE SURE, UM, HOW THAT'S GOING IN THE SU IN BROOKS AREA. 7, 8, 2, 3, 5 SECOND FASTEST GROWING ZIP CODE. LOTS OF APARTMENT COMPLEXES GOING OUT THERE. SO WANNA MAKE SURE, UM, JUST WANTING TO SEE THE REALLOCATION OF THE LADDER TRUCKS, IF YOU CAN PROVIDE THAT. YES. WE'LL GET, WE'LL, WE'LL, UH, WE'LL GET THAT FOR YOU. THANK YOU. UM, WHAT WE DID, WE JUST WENT THROUGH ACCREDITATION AS MOST OF YOU KNOW. SO WE HAD NATIONAL EXPERTS COMING HERE AND LOOK AT OUR DEPLOYMENT OF RESOURCES. WE WERE ABLE TO BUILD STATION TWO LAST YEAR. SO WE'RE ABLE TO MOVE LADDER 21 TO STATION TWO. SO THAT TOOK CARE OF THAT LADDER GAP THAT WE HAD IN THAT AREA OF TOWN. WHAT THIS LADDER'S GOING TO DO, BASICALLY IS TO ALLOW US TO, UH, STRATEGICALLY LOOK AT WHERE WE'RE GONNA PLACE IT. WE'RE LOOKING AT A CORRIDOR BETWEEN STATION 43, 19 AND 27, MORE IN THE INNER CITY AREA. AS YOU MENTIONED, APARTMENTS GOING UP. OUR APARTMENT FIVES ARE UP ABOUT 26% THIS YEAR. SO WE NEED THOSE BIG LADDERS. WE HAVE ADDED, UH, TWO LADDERS SINCE 2006. I S O RECOMMENDS THAT WE HAVE 27. SO AS YOU REMEMBER, TWO YEARS AGO, WE CAME WITH A LADDER PROPOSAL. WE'RE GONNA ADD THREE LADDERS WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. THE NEW LADDER THAT WE ADD, IT WAS AT FIRE STATION 18 ON W W I, WE WERE UNABLE TO PUT A LADDER ON THE SOUTHEAST PORTION OF TOWN, WHICH WAS THE MOST UNDERSERVED AREA OF OUR CITY, BECAUSE THAT STATION COULD NOT HOUSE A PERSONNEL OR A TRUCK, IT WOULD, WOULD SIT OUTSIDE. SO WE BUILT A NEW STATION, WE PUT THAT LADDER TRUCK IN THERE. THAT WAS THE FIRST LADDER TRUCK. WE MOVED LADDER 21 TO STATION TWO THAT TOOK CARE OF THAT POCKET. SO THE HOPES IS WITH THIS ANOTHER, WITH THIS LADDER COMING IN, WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THE CENTRAL CORRIDOR. AND THEN WITH THE THIRD LADDER COMING IN, WE'RE GONNA PROBABLY LOOK AT AUSTIN HIGHWAY AREA. 'CAUSE WE HAVE A NEW STATION GOING UP THERE, WHICH IS OUR BUSIEST AREA. SO WE'RE VERY SATISFIED WITH THE LADDER COVERAGE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO BY MOVING THOSE LADDERS. BUT WE STILL NEED TO INCREASE BECAUSE WE ARE BEHIND, UH, A ACCORDING TO THE EXPERTS BY SIX. SO WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THAT. THANK YOU. DID YOU NEED TO POINT TO ANYTHING ON THE EXHIBIT? OH, IF Y'ALL CAN GO BACK TO THE OTHER, THE MAP. I'M GOOD. WAS THERE ANY OKAY. I'M GOOD. I'M GOOD. OKAY. YES. UH, COUNCILMAN KE? YES. I APPRECIATE YOU GOING BACK TO THE MAP. DO I UNDERSTAND IN LOOKING AT THE MAP THAT THE ORANGE AREAS ARE AREAS THAT LACK SUFFICIENT? THOSE ARE, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, THOSE WERE THE BLUES. WE HAVE AN EIGHT MINUTE TRAVEL TIME. AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE ORANGE AREAS, THOSE ARE OUT. SOME OF THOSE WOULD BE BASIS GOVERNMENT, CANYON, UM, SOME AREAS THAT ARE NOT AS INCORPORATED AS OTHERS, WHERE WE DON'T HAVE A DENSITY ISSUE PERCENT, YOU COULD JUST RAISE IT ENOUGH TO COVER THE REVENUE. WELL, THAT WOULD BE WHERE THAT LADDER TRUCK WOULD BE GOING INTO. PROBABLY OFF OF BIDDERS AND, UH, LIKE 1604 AREA. BUT ALSO, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF PARKS UP THERE, BUT THERE IS LA THERE'S LADDER COVERAGE AT STATION 51, 37 AND 46 UP IN STONE OAK. THIS LADDER WOULD BE GOING INTO THAT CORRIDOR RIGHT ABOUT 1604 IN BIDDERS, IF WE, WE LIKE TO PUT LADDERS ON FREEWAYS, SO WE'D HAVE A REALLY GOOD ACCESS TO THE DOMINION UP INTO STONE OAK. SO THAT'S WHERE THIS PROPOSED LADDER WOULD BE GOING. OKAY. YOU GOT MY VOTE. NO VOTES TODAY. I'VE BEEN TOLD NO VOTES TODAY, BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT. OKAY. UM, IT SOUNDS COUNCILMAN PAR. GO AHEAD. YES, MA'AM. UH, CHIEF, I, I ASK YOU THIS [04:35:01] EACH YEAR, AND I KNOW YOU, YOU KIND OF CRINGE ABOUT IT, BUT IF YOU TAKE, IF YOU TAKE THE, UH, CITY RESOURCES YES, SIR. AND OVERLAY IT WITH THE COUNTY OR THE, THE OTHER FIRE STATIONS THAT ARE IN THE OUTLYING AREAS. YES, SIR. WHAT IS THE COVERAGE THEN? UM, NONE OF THOSE LADDERS RUN FOUR PERSON STAFFING. UH, NONE OF THOSE LADDERS HAVE THE TRAINING THAT WE HAVE, SO WE WOULD NOT WELL, I UNDERSTAND THAT. I UNDERSTAND THE TRAINING. YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T HAVE THE TRAINING WE DO. NOW, SOME OF THEM MIGHT DISAGREE WITH YOU THAT THAT'S FINE. WE COULD DEBATE THAT ABOUT THEIR TRAINING, IF THAT'S THE TRUTH AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE NUMBER OF PERSONNEL ON EACH TRUCK. BUT AGAIN, THAT IS A FIREFIGHTING RESOURCE OUT THERE THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DISCOUNT THAT RESOURCE, YOU KNOW, KNOW IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE LOOK AT. WE UTILIZE OUR, UH, ALAMO FIRE CHIEFS ASSOCIATIONS IN A LOT OF AREAS. BUT IF YOU SAY CASTLE HILLS. CASTLE HILLS HAS A LADDER TRUCK. CASTLE HILLS HAS FOUR FIREFIGHTERS. SO THEY HAVE TO DECIDE WHETHER THEY'RE GONNA PUT THOSE FOUR ON THE LADDER TRUCK OR THE ENGINE. AND SO THAT'S GONNA BE A CHALLENGE FOR US AS FAR AS GETTING LADDERS OUT. AND SO, UH, I WOULD LOVE TO REGIONALIZE THIS WHOLE FIRE SYSTEM. UH, ERIC AND I TALKED ABOUT THAT. IF YOU GO TO PHOENIX RESOURCES, THERE'S 17 CITIES THAT THEY ALL RESPOND IN WITH EACH OTHER. AND THE ONLY THING THAT'S DIFFERENT IS THE COLOR OF THE TRUCK OR THE T-SHIRT. WE ARE NOT AT THAT LEVEL RIGHT NOW TO WHERE WE HAVE, UH, LADDER TRUCKS. AND WHEN WE LOOKED AT THAT STUDY BACK WHEN WE LOOKED AT THAT, THERE'S PROBABLY ONLY THREE OR FOUR DEPARTMENTS ON THE OUTER AREAS THAT EVEN HAVE LADDER TRUCKS. ALAMO HEIGHTS HAS A LADDER TRUCK. CASTLE HILLS HAS A LADDER TRUCK. LEON VALLEY HAS A LADDER TRUCK, BUT THEY'RE NOT FULLY STAFFED. SO THAT WOULD STILL BE A CHALLENGE FOR US TO COUNT ON ANOTHER DEPARTMENT'S LADDER AT THIS TIME. I, AGAIN, I, I THINK, I THINK THERE ARE RESOURCES THAT WE SHOULD HAVE MUTUAL AID AGREEMENTS, MUTUAL AID AGREEMENTS, AND CON THOSE KIND OF THINGS THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE THEM AS A RESOURCE JUST LIKE OUR OWN. YES, SIR. AND WE HAVE MUTUAL, BECAUSE THEY, THEY'RE OVERLAPPING ON SOME OF OUR AREAS. WE HAVE MUTUAL AID WITH ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS IN THIS AREA, BUT WE DON'T HAVE AUTOMATIC AID. AUTOMATIC AID WOULD BE, IF I HAD AN ACCIDENT AT AN INTERSECTION, I'M GONNA SEND THEIR LADDER TRUCK AND MY E M S UNIT. WE DON'T HAVE THE SOPHISTICATION OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE AUTOMATIC AID AT THIS TIME. OKAY. WELL, AT SOME POINT IN TIME, I, I THINK WE NEED TO WRAP OUR ARMS AROUND THAT. MR. WALSH IS, UH, POLICY ISSUES TO SEE ABOUT ENCOMPASSING THESE OTHER RESOURCES AROUND BEXAR COUNTY THAT WOULD HELP US WITH OUR COVERAGES, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT, TO ME, WE'RE DISCOUNTING THAT AND I'M NOT SO SURE THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING THAT ON THE COVERAGES, ESPECIALLY IN THOSE ORANGE AREAS OUT THERE. OKAY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO YOUR REQUEST IS TO THE, UM, LOOK AT COLLABORATION WITH THE OTHER FIRE RESPONSE TO THE RESOURCES OF THE AREA? WELL, TO, TO, TO LOOK AT THE RESOURCES AVAILABLE FOR THE COVERAGES TO THOSE ORANGE AREAS. OKAY. THEY'RE NOT, TO ME, THEY'RE NOT SITTING OUTSIDE THE EIGHT MINUTE WINDOW WINDOW BECAUSE THERE ARE RESOURCES AVAILABLE WITHIN THAT EIGHT MINUTE WINDOW. OKAY. POINT WELL TAKEN. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE COMMENT, QUESTION? EVERYBODY'S SNACKING RIGHT NOW. . OKAY. WE'RE GONNA TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE. YOU WANNA GET ME BACK ON? THANK YOU. THE NEXT ONE IS CIVILIAN COMPENSATION. THIS WAS NOT COVERED IN THE B SESSION. YOU GOT A MEMO, UH, DISTRIBUTED YESTERDAY, I BELIEVE, OR MARIA EARLIER IN THE WEEK. UM, SO THE, UH, DID NOT HAVE A PRESENTATION, UH, CIVILIAN COMPENSATION. SO, WE'LL, UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY CLARIFYING QUESTIONS, WE HAVE A RESOURCE UP HERE TO HELP. WHAT IS YOUR NAME? FLORIS STEWART FLORES STEWART. WONDERFUL. WELCOME. SO, UH, WE CAN START WITH CLARIFYING QUESTIONS TO THAT MEMO, AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH, SUPPORTING IT. AND, AND LET ME JUST ADD AN ADDITIONAL INTRO. UM, WE, WE ADDED THIS ORIGINALLY AS A ONE OF THE LARGER POLICY ISSUES BECAUSE THERE WERE A NUMBER OF COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT MADE COMMENTS, UH, DURING THE FORECAST PRESENTATION. SO CERTAINLY IT'S, IT'S A CRITICAL PART OF OUR ENTIRE BUDGET. AND, UH, AND THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S AT LEAST SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS AND ANY, UH, OPPORTUNITY TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS. THANKS. THANK YOU, SIR. YES, SIR. COUNCILMAN, COURAGE TO CONSIDER THIS. I DON'T HAVE THAT MEMO IN FRONT OF ME. COULD WE, UH, GET A LITTLE HIGHLIGHT ON HOW WE BREAK DOWN OUR EMPLOYEES, PROFESSIONAL STEP EMPLOYEES, UNIFORMED AND, AND THE RANGE OF, OF HOW THIS [04:40:01] PAY SYSTEM WOULD WORK WITH ALL THREE OF THOSE GROUPS? AND LET ME JUST RECAP 'CAUSE I DIDN'T READ 'EM, WE WERE GETTING ON DECK THERE. CIVILIAN COMPENSATION INCLUDED IN THE FIVE-YEAR FORECAST INCLUDES STEP INCREASES OF TWO TO 4% PERFORMANCE PAY BETWEEN ZERO AND 4% AND 1% COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT. SO THOSE ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE BEING CONSIDERED. SURE. UM, COUNCILMAN KURT. THE WAY I LIKE TO, UM, EX EXPLAIN OUR WORKFORCE IS THAT THEY'RE BREAKING, BROKEN DOWN KIND OF ONE THIRD, TWO THIRDS IN MANY PLACES. UM, IN OUR OVERALL WORKFORCE OF OVER 12,000 POSITIONS, WE'VE GOT ABOUT TWO THIRD CIVILIAN, A THIRD UNIFORM, AND THEN WITHIN THAT CIVILIAN POPULATION, WE HAVE ABOUT TWO THIRDS IN THE STEP PAY PLAN, WHICH IS ABOUT 5,170 EMPLOYEES IN THE STEP PAY PLAN. AND THEN THE OTHER THIRD, AND THIS IS, THESE ARE ROUGH PROPORTIONS. THE OTHER ROUGHLY THIRD IS ABOUT, UH, 29 95 IN PERFORMANCE PAY. SO THE STEP PAY PLAN WAS A PAY PLAN THAT THE ORGANIZATION STARTED WORKING ON ALL THE WAY BACK IN 2006. AND IT WAS IMPLEMENTED OVER A PERIOD OF TIME AND NOT FULLY IMPLEMENTED UNTIL 2013. AND THAT IS WHERE AN EMPLOYEE COMES IN AT THE ENTRY OF THE STEP PLAN. AND THEN EACH YEAR THERE'S A PROGRESSION THROUGH THE STEPS UP TO THE MAXIMUM OF THE PAY RANGE. AND THEN PERFORMANCE PAY FOR PROFESSIONALS AND MANAGERS IS BASED ON THE PERFORMANCE EVALUATION FOR THAT YEAR. AND THE, THE FORECAST INCLUDES ROUGHLY WHAT COMPENSATION WAS LAST YEAR, WHICH WAS THE, THE REGULAR STEP MOVEMENT, WHICH IS BETWEEN TWO AND 4% FOR THOSE WHO ARE ELIGIBLE FOR A STEP. AND THEN PERFORMANCE PAY FOR THE PROFESSIONALS AND MANAGERS. THAT IS A 3% POOL THAT'S BUDGETED, BUT IT RANGES BETWEEN ZERO FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT PERFORMING ALL THE WAY UP TO 4%. AND THEN, UH, IT ALSO INCLUDES THE 1% COLA. UH, WHAT THE FORECAST DOES NOT INCLUDE AT THIS POINT IS SOMETHING FOR THE STEP EMPLOYEES THAT ARE AT THE TOP OF THEIR STEP. UM, YOU'LL SEE IN THE MEMO THERE WAS A LUMP SUM THAT WAS DONE LAST YEAR THAT WAS THE AVERAGE OF A 2% INCREASE. UH, WE ARE WORKING ON SOME OPTIONS FOR THAT THAT WILL PRESENT TO THE CITY MANAGER TO SEE WHAT WE CAN PUT INTO THE ACTUAL BUDGET PROPOSAL, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON THE PRIORITIES THAT ARE ESTABLISHED TODAY. AND HOW MANY UNIFORMED, UH, SWORN OFFICERS AND FIREFIGHTERS ARE THERE? UH, WE HAVE, UH, 4,209, ABOUT A THIRD OF THAT. AND I'M GIVING YOU THE BUDGETED NUMBERS FOR THIS YEAR, FISCAL YEAR 19. AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO CHANGE OUR, OUR, UM, MINIMUM WAGE, RIGHT? IT'S GONNA BE 15 CONTINUOUSLY. UH, THERE'S NOTHING BUILT INTO OUR PLAN THAT WOULD RAISE THAT MINIMUM. THERE, THERE, IT MAY GROW JUST BASED ON WHATEVER COLA IS AUTHORIZED, AND THAT WOULD KEEP IT. FRESH COLA IS COST OF LIVING IN ADJUSTMENT. YEAH. THE COST OF LIVING, IF FORECAST IS A 1% COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT, IT COULD GROW BY 1%, BUT ANYONE ENTERING INTO OUR WORKFORCE AT AT THE LOWEST LEVEL WOULD BE STARTING AT $15 AN HOUR. IT, IT MAY BE THAT THEY START AT WHAT THE FIRST STEP WOULD BE, WHICH IS NOW 15. IT COULD GROW BY THAT 1%, BUT THE MINIMUM IS 15, THE STARTING IS 15, THAT'S A FOUR. AND THE FORECAST BUDGET DID NOT INCLUDE ANY SORT OF, UM, I'M SORRY. THE FINANCIAL FORECAST DID NOT INCLUDE ANY CHANGE IN THAT $15. WELL, IT SOUNDS THOUGH, LIKE IF THERE ARE A STEP OR, OR, UH, OTHER INCREASES, IT WOULD RAISE THAT. YES. YES. IT'S JUST THE ENTRY. IT'S THE, IT'S THE, IT'S THE ENTRY INTO THE SYSTEM ENTRY IS STILL BE A 15. YES. OKAY. MAYOR, DO YOU WANNA ADD SOMETHING TO THE CONVERSATION? YEAH, YOUR MICROPHONE, SORRY. UM, DURING THE DISCUSSION PREVIOUSLY, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS JUST ONE ON ONE, ERIC, OR IF YOU PRESENTED THIS TO COUNSEL, BUT, UH, COMPRESSION HAS BECOME AN ISSUE, UH, AS A RESULT OF THE, OF THE, UH, COMPRESSION ENTRY LEVEL GOING UP. UH, IS THAT GONNA BE PART OF THE PRESENTATION, UM, OR PART OF THE DEPARTMENT, UH, REQUEST? WELL, UM, LORI, LORI JUST MENTIONED THAT WE HAVE SOME OPTIONS WE CAN LOOK AT, BUT DO YOU WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT, LORI, BECAUSE THAT, THAT WAS THE ISSUE THAT I THINK A COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS INQUIRED ABOUT AT THE FORECAST PRESENTATION. SO, YEAH, AND I WOULDN'T CALL IT COMPRESSION. WE USED TO TALK A LOT ABOUT COMPRESSION WHEN WE WERE IMPLEMENTING, WHEN WE WERE GROWING OUR MINIMUM ENTRY WAGE UP TO THE 15 MARK, WHICH WE'VE NOW HIT. AND, AND YOU MAY RECALL THAT WHAT WE WERE DOING IS THE PAY RANGES DID NOT CHANGE. WE WOULD JUST KEEP MOVING UP WHERE PEOPLE STARTED. AND SO AT THE END THERE, WE HAD THE FIRST SIX PAY RANGES OF OUR STEP PAY PLAN ALL STARTING AT THE SAME RANGE THAT CAUSED COMPRESSION. PEOPLE WERE ALL STARTING AT THE SAME PLACE, EVEN THOUGH THERE WERE SIX PAY RANGES OF DIFFERENTIAL IN THEIR, UM, EXPERIENCE AND QUALIFICATIONS THAT WAS CORRECTED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. WE, UM, MODIFIED THE STEP PAY PLAN. IT WENT FROM A MAXIMUM OF 10 STEPS, IT WENT TO SEVEN. WE CREATED DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN EACH OF THE RANGES. WE CREATED ENOUGH DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN THE STEPS. SO WE DON'T, WE WON'T, WE WOULDN'T SAY IT'S COMPRESSION NOW, [04:45:01] BUT WHAT YOU'RE HEARING IS THAT WE HAVE ALMOST 1300 OF OUR STEP EMPLOYEES WHO ARE AT THE MAX. AND, UM, THERE ARE NO MORE STEPS IN THE RANGES FOR THAT. SO IT'S MORE LIKE, YOU KNOW, WAGE STAGNATION OR, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR WHAT KIND OF COMPENSATION. SO WHAT WE'VE DONE LAST YEAR WAS THE FIRST YEAR WE ACTUALLY OFFERED A LUMP SUM INCREASE FOR THOSE PEOPLE BASED ON A 2% OF THE, UM, STEP PLAN BEFORE IT WAS ONLY MAYBE $300 IF HEALTHCARE PREMIUMS WERE GOING UP. SO WE MADE A CONSCIENTIOUS EFFORT THIS THE YEAR THAT WE'RE IN NOW FISCAL YEAR 19, TO TAKE A LOOK AT, AT THE VALUE OF A 2% INCREASE FOR THOSE STEP PEOPLE. AND WE APPLIED IT CONSISTENTLY ACROSS THE WHOLE STEP PAY PLAN. SO WE ARE LOOKING AT OPTIONS LIKE THAT FOR, TO BE PRESENTED IN THE BUDGET, SOMETHING FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE AT THE MAX. I WAS GONNA ADD, AS I'VE, UM, AS I'VE MET WITH, UH, UH, EMPLOYEE GROUPS, UM, THAT THAT WASN'T, THAT'S AN ISSUE I'VE HEARD, UH, AS WELL. UM, AND, AND I THINK IT'S, IT'S RIGHT ON POINT WHAT, WHAT LORI SAID IS IT'S THOSE 1300 AND OVER TIME THE 1300 WILL CONTINUE TO GROW. PART OF WHAT WE DO ORGANIZATIONALLY IS, UM, UM, YOU'RE AN EQUIPMENT OPERATOR ONE, AND I'M AN EQUIPMENT OPERATOR. TWO, IF YOU MAX OUT AT STEP SEVEN, WE EVENTUALLY WANT PEOPLE TO PROGRESS THROUGH EITHER THEIR, UH, TRADES OR PROFESSIONS. WE DON'T WANT YOU TO BE AN EQUIPMENT OPERATOR ONE FOR THE REST OF YOUR CAREER. UM, SO IT'S A BALANCE, BUT, AND, AND FRANKLY, I DON'T THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO SOLVE IN ONE FISCAL YEAR, BUT I THINK WE'RE GONNA NEED TO LAY THE GROUNDWORK THIS FISCAL YEAR, UH, AND, AND PROBABLY TAKE SOME TIME TO WORK THROUGH, UH, SOME LONG-TERM SOLUTIONS WITH THE, WITH THE EMPLOYEE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE AS WELL. RIGHT. OKAY. UM, THE ONLY OTHER THING I'D ADD IS, UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW Y'ALL ARE GONNA BE WORKING REALLY HARD, UH, TO FULFILL ALL THE REQUESTS. I THINK ONE REQUEST THAT HAS FALLEN UNFORTUNATELY TO THE, TO THE BOTTOM OF THE LIST, UH, FOR COUNCIL OVER THE LAST PROBABLY SIX, 10 YEARS, IS THE COST OF LIVING FOR OUR CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES. IT'S HOVERED BETWEEN ONE AND I THINK WE HIT 2% ONE YEAR. UH, BUT WE KNOW THE COST OF LIVING IS, IS RISING MUCH FASTER THAN THAT. SO I, I WOULD LIKE US TO SEE REVENUES, UH, TO ENHANCE COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT THIS YEAR AND PERHAPS EVEN IN THE TWO YEAR BUDGET, UH, MOVING FORWARD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT. UH, COUNCILMAN HALFORD AND THEN , ACTUALLY THAT WAS THE POINT I WAS GONNA MAKE WAS ABOUT THE COLA KEEPING UP WITH THE RATE OF INFLATION. I JUST WANNA, UM, STRENGTHEN THAT COMMENT. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. COUNCILMAN , UH, SAME THING. I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST, UH, DURING THE, THE MID-YEAR ADJUSTMENT, TALKING ABOUT INCREASING THE COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT. SO WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING THEN IN, IN THIS, UH, AN ADDITIONAL 1% COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT BECAUSE THIS, WHAT WAS PROPOSED WAS WHAT, 1% AND SO WE WOULD ADD ANOTHER PERCENT, IS THAT CORRECT? IS THAT WHAT WE COULD DO? WE HAVEN'T DEVELOPED AN OPTION COUNCILWOMAN, BUT THAT WAS FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE COUNCIL. THAT WAS THE DESIRE AS WE CONSIDER ALL THE OTHER PRIORITIES BECAUSE THIS WILL HAVE A COST OF ABOUT $4 MILLION. SURE. ABOUT 1% TO ALL FUNDS OF THE CITY. MM-HMM. . SO THAT'S WHAT THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE FOR US TO EVALUATE. MM-HMM. , WE'LL CONSIDER THAT ALONG THE, WITH THE OTHER PRIORITIES. OKAY. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US CONSIDER THAT BECAUSE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT AFSCME AND OTHER, UM, ORGANIZATIONS HAS HAVE REACHED OUT TO US AND ASKED, UM, US TO DO. AND NOT ONLY THAT, THE ORGANIZATIONS BUT THE RESIDENTS, THEY ARE ALSO STRUGGLING WITH THEIR AFFORDABILITY OF THEIR HOUSING. AND THEY ARE CITY EMPLOYEES, FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES AND STILL TRYING TO MAKE, UH, THE ENDS MEET AND MAKE THEIR PAYMENTS AND THEIR TAX PAYMENTS. SO WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO LIVE BY EXAMPLE AND BE THAT GREAT, UM, EMPLOYER THAT MADE THAT LIST, UM, AND CONTINUE TO TAKE CARE OF ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES. THANK YOU. UH, TO BE CLEAR ABOUT MARIA, WHAT YOU SAID, IT'S $4 MILLION IMPACT TO GO ADD AN ADDITIONAL 1% TO THE COST OF LIVING. OKAY. COUNCILMAN PERRY, JUST REAL QUICK, DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHAT THE COST OF LIVING, UM, INCREASE HAS BEEN THIS LAST YEAR AND WHAT ITS FORECAST TO BE THIS NEXT YEAR? ? HI COUNCILMAN. MY NAME'S JUSTINA TATE, UM, THE DIRECTOR OF OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET. AND THE, UH, C P I IS ABOUT 2.5%. OKAY. FORECAST FOR NEXT YEAR OR THAT'S WHAT IT HAS BEEN THIS, THIS YEAR. THAT'S WHAT IT HAS BEEN. OKAY. UM, FOR THE FORECAST, IT'S [04:50:01] 2.25. OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN . SO, ERIC, JUST MAKE SURE THAT, UM, IF YOU'RE WRITING THIS DOWN, I'M, I'M ALSO INTERESTED IN SEEING, UM, WHAT, UH, WHAT PANS OUT IF WE INCREASE THE COLA. UM, AND, UH, 2%, YOU KNOW, ONE AND A HALF PERCENT, WHATEVER IT IS THAT WE CAN, BUT I, I'D LIKE TO SEE, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, THE DIFFERENT VARIATIONS ON, ON A COLA INCREASE. THANKS. OKAY. ANDREW, DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH DIRECTION ON THIS TOPIC? OKAY. 'CAUSE THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OUTTA MY WHEELHOUSE, SO . OKAY. THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT. UH, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON. SO, UM, YOU WANNA CHECK THIS OFF THE BOTTOM? YES. I'LL, UH, WE'RE GONNA REARRANGE THE ROOM A LITTLE BIT AND WE'RE GONNA ASK YOU ALL TO GET UP. WE ARE DONE WITH THE PRESENTATION. IF YOU WANNA PUT OUR LOVELY CITY EMBLEM UP THERE. YES SIR. CAN WE JUMP BACK TO THE PROPERTY TAX ISSUE? OH, YOU WANNA YEAH. COVER THAT BEFORE WE GO DO YES SIR. YOU, AND WE'LL MOVE THIS STUFF AROUND WHILE WE'RE, THERES A CONSENSUS WE'RE GONNA, UM, THERE ARE, IT'S LIKELY TO BE A COUNCIL SPECIAL CALL COUNCIL MEETING ON MONDAY. UM, AND, UH, IF WE POST THIS AFTERNOON, IT WILL, IT, UH, WE POST IT RIGHT NOW. THE EARLIEST WE COULD HAVE THE MEETING ON MONDAY WOULD BE, UM, AT, UH, THREE 30 ON MONDAY. SO WE'VE GOT A 72 HOUR, PROBABLY PUSH IT BACK A LITTLE BIT. SO WANTED TO KIND OF PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION THAT BEN'S AND THE FINANCE FOLKS HAVE BEEN WORKING ON. EVERYBODY HEARD THAT? YOU WANNA REPEAT THAT A LITTLE BIT LOUDER? 'CAUSE I'M NOT SURE EVERYBODY, OH, I'M SORRY. WHICH PART? ALL OF IT. I THINK THE PROCESS OF THE THREE 30 MONDAY. OKAY. SO, UM, THERE ARE, THERE ARE SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT, UM, HAVE, UM, ARRANGEMENTS NEXT WEEK. , IF WE HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING, UM, IT'LL BE ON MONDAY. UM, WE HAVE A 72 HOUR POSTING REQUIREMENT ON THE STATE LAW. UM, FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE POSTED RIGHT NOW, THE EARLIEST WE COULD MEET ON MONDAY WOULD BE AT THREE 30. SO THE SOONER WE HAVE THIS CONVERSATION, AND WE CAN SET A TIME AND DATE AND MAKE SURE WE GET IT POSTED AND COMMUNICATED TO THE PUBLIC, AND THEN HAVE FURTHER CONVERSATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION FOR THE COUNCIL ON MONDAY AFTERNOON. OH, IS HE ON DECK? YES. DID Y'ALL TYPE SOMETHING UP FOR THIS? UH, IT'S, IT'S COMING UP IN A SECOND HERE. OKAY. SO WHILE THEY'RE PULLING THAT UP, UM, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WE, WE DID RUN AN OPTION THAT WE'LL SHOW YOU. UM, IT'S A LITTLE BIT TOUGH TO DO BECAUSE, BECAUSE THESE TAX RATE CALCULATIONS GET KIND OF COMPLICATED. THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PIECES. WE MADE A LOT OF ASSUMPTIONS. I'LL CAVEAT THAT IN THE, IN THE FORECAST WE ASSUMED 6% GROWTH FOR NEXT YEAR. THAT'S 4% BASE VALUE GROWTH AND 2% NEW IMPROVEMENTS. SO 4% GROWTH ON EXISTING PROPERTIES, 2% GROWTH ON NEW BUILDINGS, HOMES COMING ONTO THE TAX ROLLS. SO THAT WAS WHAT, THAT WAS PART OF THE FIVE-YEAR FORECAST. UM, WHAT WE'RE GONNA PULL UP HERE IN A SECOND IS WE TOOK THAT FORECAST AND WE MADE AN ASSUMPTION THAT, AND, AND AS SB TWO IS COMING IN PLAY IN 2021, AS THAT WAS MAKING ITS WAY THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE, CITIES WERE TALKING ABOUT WHAT DO I DO THIS YEAR? THAT'S GONNA BE A BIG CHANGE FOR US GOING FORWARD. DO WE POTENTIALLY ADJUST OUR EFFECTIVE TAX RATE TO THE ROLLBACK RATE THIS YEAR KNOWING THAT'S NOT GONNA REALLY BE AN OPTION IN THE FUTURE? SO THAT'S WHAT I RAN HERE. SO THIS ASSUMES THAT WE TAKE THE EFFECTIVE TAX RATE, WHICH IS THE TAX RATE THAT ALLOWS YOU TO COLLECT THE SAME AMOUNT OF PROPERTY TAX REVENUE THE PRIOR YEAR, EXCLUDING NEW IMPROVEMENTS. AND WE BUMP IT UP TO THE ROLLBACK RATE. AND THAT IN THIS CASE, THAT ROLLBACK RATE WOULD GO FROM OUR CURRENT TAX RATE, WHICH IS 0.56 CENTS. IT WOULD GO TO 0.56 CENTS. IT'S AN INCREASE OF ABOUT, UM, SIX TENTHS OF A PERCENT, SIX TENTHS OF A CENT, SORRY, SIX TENTHS OF A CENT INCREASE IN THE TAX RATE. UM, THAT TAX RATE THAT I JUST MENTIONED, 0.56410 IS LOWER THAN THE TAX RATE THAT WE WERE AT IN 2015 WHEN WE LOWERED IT, WHEN WE HIT THE ROLLBACK RATE, WE ACTUALLY REDUCED IT AT THAT POINT IN TIME. THIS IS STILL LOWER THAN THAT. UM, BUT THE IMPACT OF THAT IS, AND I'M SHOWING YOU HERE JUST THE GENERAL FUND, THE GENERAL FUND WOULD SEE AN INCREASE IN REVENUE OF $6.8 MILLION. AND THEN I ASSUMED THE MINIMUM HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION OF $5,000. SO AS YOU SAW ON THAT TABLE THAT COST THE GENERAL FUND IN REVENUE, $3.7 MILLION, THE GENERAL FUND WOULD BE NET AHEAD 3.1 MILLION BASED ON THE [04:55:01] SCENARIO I JUST GAVE YOU BY INCREASING THAT TAX RATE BY SIX TENTHS OF A CENT. THE DEBT SERVICE SIDE, WHICH IS WHERE WE FUND OUR BOND PROGRAMS FROM, UH, THE IMPACT OF THIS HOMESTEAD OPTION, HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION OPTION, THE MINIMUM OPTION IS 2.2 MILLION. THIS WOULD MAKE UP FOR THAT. BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD MANAGE ON THE DEBT SIDE. WE WOULD, WE WOULD ADJUST TO THAT AND, AND TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. UM, THE NEXT SLIDE, IF YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT ONE. SO THAT'S THE GENERAL FUND IMPACT. NOW WE LOOKED AT WHAT'S THE IMPACT TO HOMEOWNERS AT DIFFERENT LEVELS. AND I DON'T HAVE THIS IN FRONT OF ME, SO I'M GONNA HAVE TO LOOK THIS WAY A LITTLE BIT, SO I APOLOGIZE. SO AT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS HOME, YOU SEE OUR COSTA TAX BILL CITY TAX BILL AT $558. THE, THE TAX RATE WOULD GO UP SLIGHTLY. SO YOU SEE THE BILL GOING UP TO $564, AN INCREASE OF $6, BUT THEN YOU LAYER IN THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION OF $28. UH, IN THE CASE OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS HOME, THEY WOULD HAVE NET SAVINGS OF $22. AND THEN YOU SEE THE VALUES THERE AT 200,000, 300,000 AND 500,000. IF YOU LOOK TO THE FAR RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE THE SAVINGS IS DECLINING. AND THAT'S BECAUSE THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION OPTION WE'VE PUT IN PLACE HERE IS THE MINIMUM. SO IT'S THE $5,000 FLAT AMOUNT. IT DOESN'T CHANGE WITH THE VALUE OF THE HOME. SO IN THIS CASE, YOU GET MORE SAVINGS WITH VALUES WITH SMALLER HOMES. THOSE WITH BIGGER HOMES WOULDN'T NECESSARILY SEE THAT SAVINGS UNDER THIS OPTION. UH, THE AVERAGE HOMESTEAD FOR US IS 178,929. YOU CAN SEE THE NET INCREASE TO THEM BASED ON THE TAX RATE GOING UP WOULD BE $10. THE NET SAVINGS, AFTER YOU'VE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION WOULD BE $18. SO THIS IS JUST AN OPTION. UM, IT'S ON THE, THE END OF GOING TO THE ROLLBACK RATE. SO THE, THE MAXIMUM RATE YOU COULD GO TO, AGAIN ABOUT A SIX 10TH OF A CENT INCREASE. OTHER OPTIONS COULD BE RUN OFF OF THIS. GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS SLIDE REAL QUICK. ONCE WE HAVE CERTIFIED ROLL, WE COULD RUN AN OPTION THAT SAYS INCREASE THE TAX RATE ENOUGH TO COVER THE LOSS IN HOMESTEAD VALUE. UM, THE $3.7 MILLION THAT WE'RE PROJECTING, INSTEAD OF INCREASING IT IN THIS SCENARIO, SIX TENTHS OF A CENT, WE'D INCREASE IT THREE TENTHS OF A CENT. THOSE TWO WOULD WASH. THE GENERAL FUND WOULD BASICALLY BE NET ZERO. WE WOULD STILL HAVE THE DEBT SERVICE IMPACT. WE WOULD MANAGE THAT. GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. YOUR SAVINGS WOULD, YOUR NET SAVINGS WOULD GO UP BECAUSE THE TAX RATE WOULDN'T BE GOING UP AS MUCH. SO THERE ARE OPTIONS THAT WE COULD RUN OFF OF THIS, BUT WE JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF WHAT THIS MIGHT LOOK LIKE. UH, COUNCILMAN COURAGE. GO AHEAD. THANKS. NOW, UNDER THIS SCENARIO, BEN, WE WOULD BE INFORMING, UH, THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE AND THE BARE APPRAISAL DISTRICT THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE A, A TAX INCREASE OF X AND OR, OR A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION OF X, I'M SORRY. YES. YEAH. HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION OF WHATEVER WE WANNA MAKE. UH, AND IT HAS TO BE DONE BY JULY 1ST. THAT IS CORRECT. CAN WE, OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT TWO MONTHS UNTIL WE APPROVE A FINAL BUDGET, RAISE THAT HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION? DO THEY JUST WANT TO KNOW YOU WANT TO DO ONE OR DO THEY WANT AN EXACT NUMBER GOING UP OR DOWN? I THINK THE, THE, PROBABLY THE BIGGER NOTICE IS ACTUALLY TO THE BARE APPRAISAL DISTRICT. AND, AND AS WE'VE TALKED WITH THEM AND, AND I HAVEN'T TALKED THROUGH AN OPTION WHERE IT CHANGES, UH, I KNOW MY STAFF HAS BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH THEM AND, AND PUTTING THIS IN PLACE. THERE'S A BIT OF AN EFFORT THAT GOES ON ON THEIR SIDE. THEY WANT AS MUCH NOTICE AS POSSIBLE. SO THAT'S WHERE THAT JULY 1ST DATE COMES FROM. BECAUSE WHEN PROPERTY TAX BILLS GO OUT ON OCTOBER 1ST, THEY WANT ALL OF THAT IN THERE. THEY WANT THAT TESTED. SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WOULD HAVE AN OPTION TO CHANGE IT OR INCREASE. ACTUALLY, I THINK WE LOOKED AT THAT FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT. I DON'T BELIEVE WE CAN. I WAS LOOKING FOR ANDY. I DON'T THINK WE CAN INCREASE IT. I BELIEVE WE CAN GO TO SOMETHING LOWER. LET ME, LET ME ASK AGAIN. BUT I THINK THERE'S GONNA BE A, THERE'S A LEGAL ISSUE, BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO THE PRACTICAL SIDE OF GIVING ENOUGH NOTICE TO THE BARE APPRAISAL DISTRICT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MAY CAUSE CHALLENGES FOR US AS WELL. COUNCILMAN, MY NAME'S RAY RODRIGUEZ. I'M WITH DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ON, UH, PRIOR TO JULY 1ST, WE NEED TO MAKE THE INDICATION AND IF IT'S GOING TO BE A $5,000 EX UH, EXEMPTION, UH, I DON'T BELIEVE WE CAN MAKE ANY CHANGE TO THAT AFTER THAT DATE. WHAT IF WE, WELL 'CAUSE I THINK WHAT YOU SAID WAS IF WE DECIDE TO CHANGE THE RATE, THE EXEMPTION COULD BE DIFFERENT TOO. DIDN'T YOU SAY THAT AS ONE OF THE SCENARIOS? SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, UM, I RAN A SCENARIO HERE THAT HAS A MINIMUM EXEMPTION AND WE MOVE TO THE ROLLBACK RATE. AND YOU SAW PREVIOUS SLIDE THAT THE NET IMPACT TO THE GENERAL FUND WAS ABOUT 3.6 MILLION. UH, WE CAN PICK UP ABOUT $6.8 MILLION THERE. UM, IF WE GO TO OTHER OPTIONS, UM, WE MAY NOT HAVE ENOUGH TAX RATE ROOM TO, TO COVER THAT. IF THAT WAS WHAT YOU WERE LOOKING TO DO. WELL, WOULD IT BE SO WE [05:00:01] CAN'T RAISE THAT EXEMPTION UP OR DOWN, WHATEVER WE SAY IT IS, THAT'S WHAT IT'S STUCK AT. YES. FOR THE, FOR FOR 20, UH, FOR 2020 FOR THE NEXT YEAR? YES, SIR. OKAY. WELL THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE, BECAUSE I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY IF WE DECIDE TO DO A DIFFERENT THING WITH THE RATE THAN THE EXEMPTION COULD POSSIBLY. SO ACTUALLY I WAS GOING ON THE OTHER SIDE. I WAS SAYING IF, IF YOU DIDN'T WANT TO GO TO THE SIX 10 TAX RATE INCREASE BASED ON THESE NUMBERS, I MEAN, AGAIN, WE'LL HAVE TO UPDATE THEM WHEN WE GET THE CERTIFIED ROLE AND YOU JUST SAID, LOOK, I I WANT YOU ALL TO GIMME A SCENARIO THAT INCREASES THE TAX RATE ENOUGH TO, TO MAKE THE GENERAL FUND BE A NET ZERO. IN THIS CASE, THAT WOULD'VE BEEN NOT INCREASING AT SIX TENTHS OF A CENT. IT'D BE THREE TENTHS OF A CENT STILL DOING THE MINIMUM HOMESTEAD. THE GENERAL FUND IS A WASH, BUT HOMEOWNERS WOULD STILL SEE A NET SAVINGS. OKAY. WE'LL SEE THOSE SCENARIOS IF WE MEET AGAIN ON MONDAY, WON'T WE? YES, SIR. THANK YOU. OKAY, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AS WE SET MAYOR? YEAH, I THINK WHAT'S IMPORTANT, UH, FOR STAFF, UM, IMMEDIATELY IS, IS WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING TO ADVANCE A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO COMMIT TO TODAY. AND UM, YOU KNOW, THE CONVERSATION ABOUT TAX RATE ALWAYS OCCURS BECAUSE WE HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE GET INFORMED ABOUT WHAT THE TAX ROLLS ARE ACTUALLY ARE. SO THERE'S SOME, THERE'S STILL SOME CLARITY WE'RE GONNA NEED. UM, QUICK QUESTION, BEN, GOING OVER THE EFFECTIVE OR, OR THE M AND O RATE AGAIN, UM, YOU MENTIONED WHAT IT IS TODAY. COULD YOU TELL US WHAT IT IS TODAY? THE M AND O RATE IS, UM, 34.35 CENTS. OKAY. UM, ACTUALLY THE OVERALL RATE, I'M SORRY, THE OVERALL RATE TODAY IS 0.5582 7.55827 AND, AND THREE YEARS AGO IS WHEN WE, WE REDUCED THAT? UH, THAT'S CORRECT. M O RATE, WHAT WAS IT THREE YEARS AGO? THREE YEARS AGO WAS 0.56. 5 6 9. OKAY. AND WHAT YOU JUST SHOWED US THE ANALYSIS, WHAT WOULD IT BE IF WE MOVED IT, UH, TO THE EFFECTIVE, UH, 0.56410? SO IT'S ESSENTIALLY RIGHT IN BETWEEN YES SIR. 2016 AND 2019. YES SIR. UM, THIS IS A USEFUL CONVERSATION RE REGARDLESS, UM, BECAUSE THIS IS THE KIND OF ANALYSIS THAT CITY COUNCIL POLICY NOW WILL HAVE US, UH, PERFORM EVERY SINGLE YEAR AS IT RELATES TO SSB TWO. SO THIS IS VERY INFORMATIVE. WHAT I THINK THOUGH, UH, WHAT WE DO NEED TO KNOW WALKING OUTTA HERE WITHIN THE NEXT 30 MINUTES OR SO IS WHETHER OR NOT CITY COUNCIL IS, UM, HAS A CONSENSUS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. UM, I BELIEVE WE SHOULD GIVEN THIS, UM, I WOULD SUPPORT MOVING FORWARD WITH THE $5,000 EXEMPTION. NOW WE KNOW WHAT IT IS. IT DOES ANSWER SOME OF THE CONCERN ABOUT UNKNOWNS, UH, RELATED TO SB TWO AND CONSTRAINTS COMING DOWN FROM THE LEGISLATURE. SO I WOULD, I WOULD SUPPORT, TO BE CLEAR, I WOULD SUPPORT US IZING A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, UH, FOR MONDAY, UH, IN THE AMOUNT OF THE, THE $5,000. EVERYBODY'S GOOD WITH THAT SUGGESTION. I CONCUR WITH THAT. OKAY. UM, YOU GOT ENOUGH DIRECTION ON THIS ONE FOR MONDAY MANAGER? SOMEBODY'S GONNA BE RUNNING TO CITY HALL TO POST ? NO, NO, NO, NO. NOT A SHOW OF HANDS. . ANDY SEGOVIA IS HAVING A HEART ATTACK. WHY DON'T WE DO THIS? UM, SO IT'S A, IT'S A PARTY OF TWO AT THIS POINT. UM, CLAYTON AND I HAVE SPOKEN. I'LL, I'LL, UM, THE CONSENSUS WILL BE, UNLESS SOMEONE DISAGREES, SO, UM, EITHER SPEAK IN AFFIRMATION OR SPEAK IN DISSENT CONCERN. RIGHT. I THINK I AGREE, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN I DON'T FORWARD FURTHER. OKAY. THAT'S NOTED FOR THE RECORD. THANK YOU. I LIKE WHAT I'M HEARING. MAYOR ONE, ONE CLARIFY WHAT I HEARING. QUESTION WOULD IT BE, UM, I GUESS IT'LL BE HELPFUL FOR US ON MONDAY TO, UM, PROBABLY TAKE, UH, GOOD, THANK YOU BEN AND TROY AND MARGARET AND EVERYBODY ELSE THAT PUT THAT TOGETHER PRETTY QUICKLY. YEAH, WE'LL DO SOME ADDITIONAL, UM, WORK FOR MONDAY. UM, PART OF, PART OF WHAT BEN SHO LAID OUT IS, UM, UM, ONE ISSUE THAT'S CONNECTED BY DIFFERENT ACTIONS IN THIS CASE, THE ACTION OF POTENTIALLY, UH, THE COUNSEL APPROVING A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION COUPLED WITH THE ACTION THAT YOU WILL TAKE, UH, LATER ON IN THE SUMMER, UM, ONCE WE KNOW WHAT THE VALUES ARE, UH, AND WOULD BE INCORPORATED IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET. SO THERE'S, THERE'S TWO PARTS OF THAT FORMULA AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTOOD FROM THE TIMELINE WHAT'LL HAPPEN AND WE CAN, WE CAN SPEND SOME TIME, UM, PROVIDING A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND BEING PREPARED TO KIND TALK THROUGH THOSE, UH, AT THE, UM, MONDAY MEETING. YES, COUNSEL, BE YES. [05:05:01] I THINK THAT'S, THANK YOU FOR ADDING THAT A PART OF THE CONVERSATION AND I THINK THIS WOULD BE WORTHY FOR A VOTE. OKAY. IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'LL HAVE A SESSION ON MONDAY. YES, SIR. YES, I WOULD, I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT SESSION TOO. WE'RE GOOD TO GO. WELL, AGAIN, I, I THINK IT'S TWO SEPARATE ISSUES ON, ON THE TAX RATE VERSUS HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. UH, LIKE THE MAYOR SAID, WE DO THIS ANYWAY TO FIGURE OUT THE, THE, UH, TAX RATE THAT'S A SEPARATE VOTE, UM, IN THE BUDGET. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE, UH, BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION FOR TWO YEARS. I, I THINK WE'RE READY. AND, UH, AGAIN, I, I CONCUR WITH, UH, UH, I LIKE WHAT I HEAR FROM THE MAYOR AS WELL AS, UH, COUNCILMAN PLY AND, UM, I, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK WE'RE READY TO, UH, MOVE FORWARD OR IF THERE'S DISSENSION, PULL IT BACK TODAY. IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD AND THERE'LL BE A SESSION ON MONDAY. WE WILL BE POSTING, UH, THIS AFTERNOON FOR A SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING ON MONDAY AFTERNOON. YES. WE WILL GET YOU THE DETAILS RIGHT. SO BE PREPARED TO HAVE A BUSY AFTERNOON ON MONDAY. EVERY EVERY MONDAY'S BUSY. WELL, IT'S A QUARTER TO THREE, SO I'M SAYING FOUR O'CLOCK. YOU MIGHT BE, UH, COMING BACK. UM, AT THIS TIME I WANT EVERYBODY TO STAND UP. I'VE SEEN A LOT OF BOWLING BALL HEADS GOING ON. I, YEAH, TAKE A STRETCH IF YOU WANT. SO ALL THE TOPICS ARE ON THE REST OF THE AFTERNOON, WE'RE GONNA SPEND, UM, DEMONSTRATING YOUR PRIORITIES AND DOING A REFLECTION. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A QUICK WRAP UP. THE EIGHT TOPICS ARE ON THE STICKY WALL. WHAT I'M GONNA DO IS ASK FOR, UM, LET'S SEE, UH, LET'S DO, UM, LET'S HAVE THE THREE OF YOU COME UP. PICK YOUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY OVER HERE AND, UM, GO AHEAD AND JUST PICK ONE. IF Y'ALL HAVE THE SAME ONE. I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO STAND IN THE SAME AREA OF THE ROOM, JUST, JUST YOUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY. WHAT IS YOUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY? IF THERE WAS NOTHING ELSE THAT COULD BE FUNDED, WHERE WOULD YOU WANT THE MONEY TO GO? , WAIT. NO, NO, NO. I'M DOING THREE TO TIME. HOLD ON, HOLD ON, HOLD ON, MAN. I, I DON'T, I WANT TO, I WANNA GRAB MINE. OKAY. SO SHIRLEY, I WANT YOU TO STAND OVER THERE BY, OVER THERE BY LINDA, AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I WANT YOU TO STAND OVER HERE PLEASE. I WANT YOU TO STAY IN FRONT. UM, WHAT'S YOURS? OKAY, STAND RIGHT NEXT TO HER. OKAY. UM, UH, COUNCILWOMAN SULLIVAN, SANDOVAL AND TREVINO, PLEASE COME TO THE FRONT IF, IF YOUR TOP PRIORITY HAS ALREADY BEEN CHOSEN, STAND BY THAT PERSON. I'M, COME ON FOLKS. WE'RE IN THE HOME STRETCH. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU. NOT MY COUNCILMAN SANDOVAL. JUST STANDING THERE. OKAY. MAYOR VERAN AND GARCIA, PLEASE COME UP. I WANT YOU TO STAND RIGHT HERE. MR. MAYOR, IF THERE WAS NOTHING THAT COULD BE FUNDED EXCEPT FOR ONE THING, WHAT WOULD YOU PICK? DON'T BE AN INFLUENCER. WE WANT 'EM TO BE BIASED. IF THERE'S SOMETHING ON THE BOARD THAT YOU IS YOUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY, PLEASE PICK IT. WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS GO SIT DOWN AND WE'RE GONNA GIVE, WE'RE GONNA ASK YOU YOUR TOP THREE SO YOU CAN EXPLAIN YOUR TOP THREE IN NO CERTAIN ORDER. OKAY. ANNA, YOU'RE GOOD. . SHE JUST WANTS TO STAND A LITTLE BIT. SHE JUST WANTS TO STAND A LITTLE BIT LONGER. OKAY. THIS IS A VERY INTERESTING, ALMOST EQUAL DISTRIBUTION, IF YOU COULD OH. OR DO, DID HE GO? OKAY, SO THAT'S LIKE A MILE AWAY . YEAH. HIS PRIORITY IS TAKING CARE OF HIS NATURAL NEEDS. UM, OKAY. SO WE HAVE, UH, TWO AT STRONG FAMILIES AND CHILDREN. WE HAVE THREE AT PROPERTY TAX RELIEF. WE HAVE THREE AT STREET SIDEWALKS AND TRANSPORTATION, AND WE HAVE TWO AT AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I WAS HOPING ONE OF Y'ALL WOULD BE MANNY. I DON'T WANNA PRESUME THIS IS JUST A VISUAL SO THAT WE CAN KIND OF GET A SENSE OF WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT TO WHICH, UH, REPRESENTATIVES. I'M GONNA WAIT LIKE TWO MORE MINUTES. WHAT'S THAT? YOU'RE RIGHT. HE WENT TO THE [05:10:01] RESTROOM. SO I WAS WAITING. I WAS GONNA GIVE HIM AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET BACK ONE OF HIS STAFF. HE'S COMING. OKAY. WHEN HE WALKS IN, EVERYBODY GO. MANNY, . YAY. . OKAY. COUNCILMAN ELIAS. IF THERE WAS ONLY ONE THING YOU COULD FUND, STAND NEXT TO THAT. IF IT'S ONE ON THE BOARD, JUST GRAB IT AND YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN. I'M LOOKING FOR DONUTS. DONUTS FOR DONUTS. OKAY. HEY, SO STREETS, SIDEWALKS, AND TRANSPORTATION GETS FOUR, FOUR, UH, SUPPORTS OF NUMBER ONE PRIORITY. OKAY? I'M GONNA GIVE EVERYBODY AN OPPORTUNITY TO CATCH IT ON CAMERA. GET THE SHOT, ALL THAT STUFF WE GOTTA DO. OKAY? BE THINKING ABOUT YOUR TOP THREE. 'CAUSE WHEN YOU GO BACK AND SIT DOWN, I'M GONNA ASK YOU ALL TO SHARE THOSE, UH, CONCISELY AND BRIEFLY. WE GOOD? WE GOT THE SHOTS. OKAY. GO AHEAD AND, UH, I'LL TAKE THAT FROM YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MANNY. LIKE, THANK YOU ALL. DID YOU GET IT YET? DID YOU GET IT? YEAH. I LIKE THE REDNECK. GET IT, IT, THE TABULATIONS. I'M JUST GONNA WRITE IT ON HERE. THEY WANT TO BE VISIBLE. REMEMBER? YOU WANNA PULL 'EM DOWN? YOU WANNA GO SIT DOWN? GO SIT DOWN. OKAY. WE'RE NOT DONE YET. WE'RE ALMOST FINISHED. WE'RE IN THE HOME STRETCH. WE ARE, WE'RE STILL GOOD FOR FOUR 30 IF EVERYBODY CAN SIT DOWN AND WE'LL GET BACK TO THE GAME HERE. SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR PLAYING THE GAME. UM, WHAT I WANNA DO IS, UM, WE DON'T WANT YOUR ORDER. 1, 2, 3. WE JUST WANT YOUR TOP THREE. UM, WHAT'S THAT? OH, OH. DO YOU NEED 'EM BACK UP THERE? WE CAN, WE CAN BRING THIS ONE BACK UP. WHERE'S THE THING THAT I HAD THE CHECK OFF? I PUT IT, I PUT THIS EASIER. THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE AS NEAT AS WE DID A MINUTE AGO. STREET SIDEWALKS, TRANSPORTATION, CIVILIAN COMPENSATION, PUBLIC SAFETY, FIRE, PUBLIC SAFETY, POLICE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING. STRONG FAMILIES AND CHILDREN. FINANCIAL POLICIES AND PROPERTY TAX RELIEF. OKAY, I'M GIVE YOU ABOUT TWO MINUTES TO COMPLETE THAT IF OH, WHO STILL NEEDS TIME? NOBODY. OKAY. VERY GOOD. HEARD. WHAT? OH, . YOU NEED TO, UH, WRITE YOUR TOP THREE. NOT IN ANY PARTICULAR ORDER, JUST YOUR TOP THREE. AND I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO SHARE, I'M GONNA REALLY LIMIT YOU ALL TO TWO MINUTES A PIECE TO SHARE. I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT YOU TO GO ON AND ON. I JUST WANT YOU TO SAY, UH, BASIC UNDER, SO WE GET A BASIC UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THOSE TOP THREE LAID OUT FOR YOU. COUNCILMAN PALAI? YOU GOT A QUESTION? I ALWAYS . OKAY. YOU WANT HIM ON THE BIG CARDS? NO, NO, NO. YOU'RE JUST GONNA SHARE FROM YOUR CHAIR. YEAH. WE'RE, WE'RE PRETTY MUCH DONE WITH THE STICKY WALL. IT'S JUST NOW. UH, I'M SORRY. JUST GO WHAT SHE'S ASKING. NO, WE'RE GONNA, WE WANT EVERYBODY TO HEAR EVERYBODY'S, SO THERE'S SOME STILL WRITING, SO AS SOON AS I SEE IT, EVERYBODY'S DONE. OH, YOU MEAN LIKE, GO HOME? NO, I WAS JUST SAY, OH, TO START. NO, NO, NO. I, I'LL ASK FOR EACH OF Y'ALL ONE BY ONE, BUT I WANT EVERYBODY TO GET THEIR DOWN. THANK YOU. DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION, MAYOR? OH, YOU GUYS READY? ANYBODY NEED MORE TIME? UM, IF I START ON EITHER END, IT'S THE BRAND NEW FOLKS, SO I'M GONNA START WITH VIA GRAND. OKAY. SHE SAYS THAT SHE'S THE DEAN 'CAUSE SHE'S HADN'T HAD TO GO INTO A RUNOFF BEFORE . THAT'S RIGHT. SO, UM, ONE A IS STREETS ONE B? I'M JUST KIDDING. NO. UM, IT WOULD BE STREETS, STRONG FAMILIES AND PUBLIC SAFETY. OKAY. DO YOU WANNA, DO YOU WANNA PUBLIC SAFETY, FIRE OR PUBLIC SAFETY? POLICE. OH, PUBLIC SAFETY. POLICE. OKAY. DO YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING ABOUT A POLICE SUBSTATION, ? UM, SO, UH, WELL, STREETS, SIDEWALKS, TRANSPORTATION, UM, STREETS, BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF STREETS THAT DO NOT HAVE A GOOD [05:15:01] P C I SCORE IN DISTRICT THREE SIDEWALKS. WE HAVE THE LARGE AMOUNT OF SIDEWALK GAPS IN THE CITY. TRANSPORTATION. WE, I WANNA BE PROACTIVE ABOUT OUR TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY, MEANING WE NEED AN EAST WEST CONNECTOR, SOUTH OF FOUR 10, UM, STRONG FAMILIES. I THINK ALL OF THE ELEMENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ELIMINATE, UH, THE GENDER DISPARITIES THAT ARE THERE, AND FINALLY START ADDRESSING THE MENTAL HEALTH, UM, ISSUES THAT ARE HAPPENING. AND I THINK THEY'RE ALL INTERCONNECTED. SO STRONG FAMILIES AND CHILDREN WILL GO A LONG WAY IF WE PUT THAT, THOSE DOLLARS THAT WE NEED THERE. OKAY. AND THEN, UM, PUBLIC SAFETY BECAUSE OF THE OTHER REASONS I MENTIONED. OKAY. THANK YOU, MAYOR. IT'S YOUR TURN. OKAY. UM, SO I HAD A HARD TIME FIGURING OUT WHICH ONE I SHOULD STAND NEXT TO BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL PRIORITIES, BUT IN MY MIND, THE ONLY REASON WHY WE DO TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC SAFETY AND HAVE STRONG FINANCIAL POLICIES AND SO FORTH, IS SO WE CAN IMPROVE THE LIVES OF OUR ARE FAMILIES AND OUR COMMUNITY. SO THAT'S WHY I CHOSE, UH, STRONG FAMILIES AND CHILDREN. UM, THAT'S OUR MEASURE OF SUCCESS. SO IT'S MY NUMBER ONE PRIORITY. AND, AND WHAT THAT MEANS FOR US, UH, FOR OUR BUDGET AND OUR RESOURCES IS I WOULD LIKE US TO FULLY SUPPORT, UH, THE, UH, STRATEGIC PLAN FROM THE METRO HEALTH DEPARTMENT, UH, PARTICULARLY AS IT RELATES TO THE FOUR BIG PRIORITIES, UH, ADVERSE CHILDHOOD EXPERIENCES, UH, FAMILY AND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PREVENTION, UM, ACCESS TO HEALTHCARE, AND THEN ALSO, UH, ADEQUATE ACCESS TO NUTRITION. UM, THE NEXT ONE OBVIOUSLY IS, UH, SO THAT'S AN OVERARCHING GOAL, I BELIEVE, BUT SURE. UH, AS IT RELATES TO THOSE UP THERE, OBVIOUSLY TRANSPORTATION IS HUGE. UH, I WANT TO CONTINUE TO, TO HAVE US FULLY FUND, UH, STREET MAINTENANCE ON AN EQUITY, UM, THROUGH AN EQUITY LENS. AND I DID WANNA REQUEST, UH, FROM, UH, CITY MANAGER IF HE CAN BRING, UH, CONNECT SA TO THE CITY COUNCIL B SESSION, UH, SOON IN, IN AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER FOR CITY COUNCIL BRIEFING, KNOWING THAT, THAT IT IS A PRIORITY FOR US AND, AND TRANSPORTATION REFORM IS ON THE AGENDA. UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, THE, THE THIRD ONE IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND THAT'S REALLY, UH, JUST A CONTINUED IMPLEMENTATION OF OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING STRATEGIES, FULLY FUNDING IT. UH, ALSO FULLY SUPPORTING A COORDINATED SYSTEM, WHICH HAS A PERSON, AS COUNCILMAN SANDOVAL SAID, THAT'S RECOGNIZED INSIDE AND OUTSIDE OF OUR ORGANIZATION AS BEING THE FRONT DOOR FOR HOUSING POLICY SO THAT WE CAN COORDINATE ALL THE DISPARATE, UH, SERVICES AND RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE. WONDERFUL. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN TREVINO? UM, WELL, I STARTED OFF WITH STREET SIDEWALK. TURN YOUR MIC OFF PLEASE. . SORRY ABOUT THAT. UM, STARTED OFF WITH STREET SIDEWALKS AND TRANSPORTATION. I BELIEVE THESE ARE THE, THE MOST BASIC NEEDS, UH, OUR COMMUNITY, UH, HAS. AND, UM, THERE'S MANY WAYS THAT WE CAN REALLY TRULY START TO ADDRESS THIS. AND, UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH TRANSPORTATION AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS TO, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE CREATING AN ACTUAL GOAL OR, OR EVEN, UH, AN OUTLINE FOR HOW WE ACTUALLY GET THERE. UH, WE TALK ABOUT ADDRESSING THESE ISSUES, BUT THERE'S NO REAL PLAN OR FINISH LINE TO A LOT OF THESE, AND I THINK WE NEED TO ESTABLISH THAT. SO THAT IS CRITICAL TO ME. UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR OBVIOUS REASONS. UM, THIS IS, UH, IT'S A COMPLEX ISSUE. AND, UM, I THINK WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT. UM, THERE'S, THERE'S MANY DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS AND WE NEED TO START LOOKING AT THE THINGS THAT CAN IMMEDIATELY IMPACT, UH, PEOPLE IN THEIR HOMES RIGHT AWAY. HELP KEEP PEOPLE IN THEIR HOMES, LET THEM AGE IN PLACE, AND, UH, PROTECT SOME OF THE MOST VA MOST VALUABLE, UH, ASSETS PEOPLE HAVE, UM, AS THEY, AS THEY AGE. UM, AND THEN THE LAST, UM, WAS, UH, STRONG FAMILIES AND, UH, AND CHILDREN. I THINK IT'S, IT JUST REALLY GOES HAND IN HAND WITH, WITH THE WAY WE LOOK AT OUR, OUR LIVING CONDITION IN, IN SAN ANTONIO, MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT FEARFUL OF, OF, YOU KNOW, THEIR COMMUNITY. THAT WE PROVIDE STRONG CONNECTIONS TO RESOURCES AND SERVICES AVAILABLE TO THEM. UM, WE UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, MANY CITIES GO THROUGH THESE ISSUES AND, UH, WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, REALLY ALIGN THOSE RESOURCES IN, IN A MEANINGFUL WAY. UM, AND THEN I WILL JUST, ONLY BECAUSE I WAS ASKED BY THE CITY MANAGER TO BRING UP, I, I, THIS IS NOT MY TOP THREE, BUT TO ADD THROUGH THE CIVILIAN COMPENSATION, I PUT OUT A MEMO YESTERDAY REGARDING OUR COUNCIL AID COMPENSATION. AND SO I DO WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT OUR COUNCIL AID STAFF [05:20:01] NEEDS A MORE EQUITABLE, UH, COMPENSATION PACKAGE THAN IT CURRENTLY EXISTS TODAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S NOTED FOR THE RECORD. COUNCILMAN SANDOVAL? UH, THANK YOU. UH, THE TOP THREE WOULD BE TRANSPORTATION. UM, I KNOW, I THINK IT SAYS STREETS UP THERE, UH, BUT I THINK IT'S A LOT MORE THAN THAT. IT'S ABOUT ALLOWING OUR RESIDENTS, UM, CONNECTION TO OPPORTUNITY AND CONNECTION TO THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO THEM. AND WE DO THAT BY PROVIDING SIDEWALKS AND BY PROVIDING SAFE WAYS OF GETTING AROUND AND ENJOYING THE SPACE THAT THEY LIVE IN. UM, AND IF YOU DON'T FEEL SAFE WALKING DOWN YOUR STREET BECAUSE A CAR'S GONNA HIT YOU, LIKE, THAT'S, THEN WE'RE FAILING, I THINK, AS A, AS A COMMUNITY. UH, SO TRANSPORTATION, UM, STRONG FAMILIES, UH, FOR ALL THE REASONS THAT WERE MENTIONED BEFORE, LIKE BY COUNCILWOMAN, UH, VIA GRAND AND, UH, HOUSING, AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND THIS IS, UH, IF IT'S ALL RIGHT WHERE I'M GONNA WEAVE IN ANOTHER STORY. UM, A A MAN CAME TO SEE ME WHO'D GROWN UP ON THE WEST SIDE AND HAD, UH, LIKE YOU OFTEN SAY, HAD MOVED AWAY TO DISTRICT SEVEN ONCE HE WAS ABLE TO AFFORD SOMETHING OUT IN THE FAR NORTHWEST. BUT HE RENTED OUT HIS, HIS, THE HOME THAT HE GREW UP IN TO SENIORS. AND EVERY YEAR, UM, HE, UH, THE APPRAISALS WENT UP AND HE WASN'T ABLE TO KEEP THOSE PEOPLE THERE. AND HE MIGHT HAVE TO REALLY EVICT THEM, SO THEIR SENIORS WHO WERE NEVER ABLE TO BUY A HOME. UM, SO THEY RENTED AND THERE WASN'T A PLACE FOR THEM TO GO BECAUSE THEY KEPT GETTING PRICED OUT. SO, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, WOULD BE NUMBER, NUMBER THREE. UM, I WILL ALSO, UM, CONCUR WITH COUNCILMAN VINNO, UM, THAT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE, UH, THAT OUR COUNCIL OFFICES ALSO HAVE THE RESOURCES THAT THEY NEED, UH, TO DO THE WORK. WE EACH REPRESENT ABOUT 170,000 PEOPLE. UM, I, I DO THIS AS A FULL-TIME, UH, GIG, AND THAT'S, THERE'S STILL NOT ENOUGH OF ME TO, TO GO AROUND. SO I RELY ON SOME GREAT PEOPLE TO, TO HELP ME DO THAT AND TO KEEP THEM WITH ME. UH, I NEED TO BE ABLE TO ADEQUATELY COMPENSATE THEM. UH, TURNOVER IN A COUNCIL OFFICE IS, IS DIFFICULT BECAUSE ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS WE DO IS BUILD TRUST WITH THE PUBLIC. AND IF WE CAN'T KEEP OUR STAFF, WE CAN'T RETAIN THEM, UH, THEN WE, WE CAN'T DO OUR WORK, AND THEN WE CAN'T ACTUALLY INVEST IN ALL OF THIS. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. . THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN SULLIVAN. UM, THANK YOU. SO, MY TOP PRIORITY WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING FALLS UNDER, OR EVERYTHING ELSE CAN FALL UNDER HOUSING FOR MY DISTRICT. OKAY. UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN MY DISTRICT, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT BELOW 30 TO 60% A M I. UM, WE ARE ONE OF THE MOST ECONOMICALLY SEGREGATED AREAS OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. SO WE HAVE A HOMELESS SITUATION THAT LEADS TO A DOMESTIC SITUATION THAT LEADS TO A CHILD SAFE SITUATION, THAT LEADS TO NOT HAVING ENOUGH OF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY THERE TO PROTECT US BECAUSE IT LEADS TO A LIFE OF CRIME. YOU LOOK AT THE STREETS, YOU LOOK AT THE SIDEWALKS, YOU LOOK AT THE TRANSPORTATION, WHICH HAS TOTALLY BEEN KIND OF LEFT BEHIND FOR 20 YEARS, THAT LEADS TO THE PROPERTY TAXES THAT OUR LEGACY HOMEOWNERS ARE GETTING PRICED OUT OF, TO THE GENTRIFICATION OF THE NEWER FACILITIES THAT ARE COMING IN THAT WE CAN'T AFFORD TO MOVE INTO. SO LOOKING AT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS DEFINITELY A MUST BECAUSE IT IS THE SOURCE OF EVERY OTHER SYMPTOM THAT COMES BEHIND IT. BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE A PLACE TO CALL HOME AND YOU HAVE A PLACE TO RAISE A FAMILY, YOU THEN MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU ACTUALLY LIVE IN. AND THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO NEEDS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ADEQUATE HOUSING FOR EVERY RESIDENT THAT RESIDES HERE IN THIS CITY. THANK YOU. SO DO YOU HAVE TOP THREE? WAS IT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC SAFETY? AFFORDABLE HOUSING, PUBLIC SAFETY? WAS THAT FIRE OR POLICE? UH, POLICE. OKAY. STREET SIDEWALKS. TRANSPORTATION. OKAY. THANK YOU. . COUNCILMAN COURAGE. THANK YOU. I DON'T THINK ANYONE CAN SAY IT ANY BETTER THAN SHE DID WHEN SHE TALKED ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHICH WAS MY FIRST PICK TWO. OKAY. I THINK, UH, HOMELESSNESS IS A, IS A TRAGEDY. AND ANYONE WHO'S LIVING IN A SUBSTANDARD HOME, UNHEALTHY HOME, UH, ONE THAT, UH, THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO LIVE IN BECAUSE OF COSTS OR CONDITIONS, UH, IT DOES LEAD TO SO MANY OTHER PROBLEMS WITH FAMILIES AND INDIVIDUALS. AND SO I THINK THAT'S [05:25:01] THE NUMBER ONE THING WE OUGHT TO BE TACKLING. UH, BUT AFTER THAT, I, I THINK PUBLIC SAFETY IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE ONCE YOU GO OUTTA YOUR HOME MM-HMM. , YOU KNOW, THEN HOW SAFE ARE YOU IN A COMMUNITY? HOW SAFE SHOULD YOU BE? WHETHER IT'S WALKING ON YOUR STREETS AND GETTING RUN OVER BY A CAR OR, YOU KNOW, ANY, ANYTHING ELSE, UH, ABOUT CRIME IN YOUR AREA? SO PUBLIC SAFETY WITH THE POLICE, I THINK IS, IS SECOND PRIORITY. AND THE THIRD OF THE STREETS AND THE SIDEWALKS AND TRANSPORTATION IN GENERAL, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET AROUND, WHETHER IT'S GOING TO WORK OR GOING TO SCHOOL OR GOING OUT FOR RECREATION. THEY SHOULD FEEL SAFE. THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET AROUND, THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO MOVE AROUND THE CITY. THEY SHOULD DO IT SAFELY AND COMFORTABLY. AND I THINK THOSE ARE THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU, SIR. APPRECIATE THAT. COUNCILWOMAN GONZALEZ? UH, I HAVE STRONG FAMILIES, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, TRANSPORTATION STREETS. AND I BELIEVE THAT IF WE REALLY PRIORITIZE CHILDREN IN THIS COMMUNITY AND WE PRIORITIZE FAMILIES, THEN FROM THERE FALLS AFFORDABLE HOUSING, STREETS, SIDEWALKS, TRANSPORTATION. UM, AND I, I BELIEVE THAT FOCUSING ON THE MOST VULNERABLE WILL BUILD A REALLY GREAT COMMUNITY FOR EVERYONE. AND SO THAT'S WHY I HAVE THIS ORDER. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. HAHA. THANK YOU. I'M DRAWING THESE STRAIGHT FROM THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL AND WHAT THE PEOPLE OF DISTRICT SIX, UM, COMMUNICATED TO ME. BUT, UH, NUMBER ONE IS PROPERTY TAX RELIEF. A LOT OF OUR FAMILIES, UNFORTUNATELY, ARE GETTING, UM, UH, PRICED OUTTA THEIR HOMES, AND THERE ARE SOMETIMES HOMES THAT THEY'VE BEEN IN FOR GENERATIONS. UM, SECOND IS, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY, PARTICULARLY POLICE, UH, WHEREVER I WAS IN THE DISTRICT, IT WAS ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY, EITHER PROPERTY CRIME OR VIOLENT CRIME, BUT WHATEVER DEGREE IT WAS, THEY, THEY WERE VERY INTERESTED IN INCREASING THEIR, UM, UH, MORE PUBLIC SAFETY. THE LAST ONE IS STREETS, SIDEWALKS, AND TRANSPORTATION. UH, I THINK THAT, THAT THIS IS KIND OF THE, THE HEART TO, TO THE AVERAGE CITIZEN OF SAN ANTONIO. IT'S, IT'S, THAT'S WHAT THE CITY REPRESENTS TO THEM. THIS IS WHAT THE CITY DOES FOR THEM. SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE KEEP THOSE, UM, WALKABLE AND LOOKING GOOD AND, UM, WHAT PEOPLE SEE WHEN THEY LOOK OUT THEIR FRONT DOOR. SURE. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO THEM. RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN GARCIA? UH, SO THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE TO ME AS WELL, COMING OFF THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL WAS PROPERTY TAX RELIEF. OKAY. UM, SO DEFINITELY A STANCE NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO WOULD BE STREET SIDEWALKS, TRANSPORTATION. FOR INSTANCE, I'VE DONE A QUICK ANALYSIS AND D FOUR ALONE, THERE'S ABOUT 37 NON-EXISTENT SIDEWALKS. SO WE NEED AN INVESTMENT OF ABOUT $2.3 MILLION. SO THAT'S ALREADY HUGE, AND I'M SURE THAT IT'S CONSISTENT WITH SOME OF THE ONES IN YOUR AREAS. AND THEN, UH, PRIORITY NUMBER THREE WOULD, UH, BE PUBLIC SAFETY, SPECIFICALLY POLICE, AGAIN, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOODS IN MY AREA, UM, REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME ADDITIONAL POLICE PRESENCE. I'D LOVE TO MAYBE SPLIT THAT POLICE STATION WITH COUNCILWOMAN VRAN, UM, RIGHT DOWN CENTER OF D THREE AND D FOUR. UH, AND THEN I ALSO WANT TO, UM, THANK COUNCILMAN TREVINO FOR BRINGING UP THE ISSUE OF COUNCIL AID PAY. I, I DEFINITELY THINK THAT JUST KNOWING WHAT THEY'VE DONE, AND AS A PREVIOUS STAFF PERSON FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, SEEING WHAT THE COUNCIL AIDE WORK, THEY WORK, UH, JUST AS HARD AS OUR CITY STAFF ON THE WEEKENDS IN THE EVENINGS. UM, AND I THINK WE NEED TO GIVE 'EM SOME SPECIAL CONSIDERATION. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT, COUNCILMAN PERRY. GREAT. AND I'LL FOLLOW ALONG WITH THE SAME, SAME TOP THREE, TOP THREE PRIORITIES, YOU KNOW, HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, WHICH IS PROPERTY TAX RELIEF, AND, UH, UM, STREETS OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY. AND I, YOU KNOW, I, I HAVE A HARD TIME SPLITTING FIRE AND, AND POLICE BECAUSE THAT, THAT'S 66% OF OUR BUDGET. SURE. BOTH OF THEM PUT TOGETHER. SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN. AND, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S FIRE AND REMEMBER THAT E M S SERVICES ARE PART OF THE FIRE, UH, DEPARTMENT. SO THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PIECE JUST AS MUCH AS THE, THE POLICE SIDE IS. SO THOSE ARE MY TOP THREE PRIORITIES. THANK YOU. OKAY. DID YOU GET THOSE? YEAH. UM, THANK YOU. THE, UH, FOR ME, UH, NUMBER THREE, UH, WOULD BE STREETS AND SIDEWALKS. NUMBER TWO WOULD BE STRONG FAMILIES AND CHILDREN. UM, AND, UH, NONE OF THESE HAPPEN, UH, WITHOUT MONEY. UH, SO, UH, FINANCIAL POLICIES WOULD BE NUMBER ONE FOR ME. I MEAN, IF YOU REALLY THINK ABOUT IT, WE'RE A VERTICALLY INTEGRATED ENTERPRISE THAT PROVIDES ALL THESE SERVICES, AND YET WE'RE HERE. WE JUST SPENT THE ENTIRE DAY, UM, TALKING ABOUT BUDGET AND HOW WE'RE GONNA SPEND THIS MONEY AND HOW WE'RE GONNA RESTRICT IT, AND, UH, WHAT KIND OF FLEXIBILITY WE'RE GONNA GIVE STAFF TO BE ABLE TO EXECUTE ON OUR POLICIES. AND SO, UM, I, I WILL TELL YOU THAT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE THINGS ALSO HAS TO DO A LOT WITH, UH, HOW WE HANDLE INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, SO MUCH OF OUR ABILITY TO ACCOMPLISH THESE THINGS IS DEPENDENT UPON THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, YOU KNOW, DOING WHAT THEY'RE [05:30:01] SUPPOSED TO DO. AND SO, UH, WITH THAT, UH, I'LL ECHO, UH, MY DESIRE TO SEE, UH, UH, MORE OF A CONVERSATION REGARDING, UH, COUNCIL AIDS. I'D, I, I'D LIKE TO SEE WHERE THAT, THAT TAKES US. BUT, UH, BACK TO, YOU KNOW, MY, MY TOP THREE, UH, NUMBER ONE IS FINANCIAL POLICIES. OKAY, THANKS. THANK YOU ALL FOR SHARING THAT. THAT, UH, HELPS THE MANAGER GET A SENSE OF WHERE HE IS GONNA PUT THE RESOURCES. UM, SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS THE STREETS, STREETS, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, STRONG FAMILIES, PUBLIC SAFETY, UM, POLICE PROPERTY TAX RELIEF, AND, UH, UH, COMPENSATION PACKAGE, INCLUDING THE COUNCIL AID CONSIDERATION, ARE KIND OF ROUNDING OUT THE TOP OF THE LIST. SO, UM, AS YOU THINK ABOUT THESE THINGS, UM, OH, ACTUALLY, HOLD ON. YES. SO ARE WE GONNA GET A PRESENTATION ON THE COUNCIL AID COMPENSATION, ERIC, BECAUSE THIS IS NEW RIGHT NOW, AND WHEN, IN MY REMARKS WITH CITY CIVILIAN COMPENSATION, IT WAS ABOUT OUR CITY EMPLOYEES. SO THAT'S WHERE MY IMPORTANCE IS THERE TOO, KNOWING THAT OUR COUNCIL AIDE DO A LOT, BUT LOOKING AT OUR EMPLOYEE COMPENSATION, OUR CITY EMPLOYEES, THANK YOU, . UM, I, I THINK PART OF THE CONVERSATION, UM, AND COUNCILMAN TREVINO, UM, SHARED A DOCUMENT, UH, LAST NIGHT BY EMAIL. WE'RE, WE'RE NOT PREPARED TO MAKE ANY PRESENTATION ON ANY OF THAT INFORMATION, UM, BEYOND WHAT WAS SENT OUT LAST NIGHT. WE DIDN'T PREPARE ANYTHING ON THAT CASE. WERE YOU ASKING FOR A PRESENTATION RIGHT NOW OR FOR A FUTURE SESSION? OH, NO, IT'S, IT, I MEAN, I WANNA HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT. OKAY. IF IT'S GONNA BE A PRIORITY OR NOT. OKAY. WERE YOU TALKING ABOUT, I'M SORRY, MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD. WERE YOU TALKING ABOUT A PRE PRESENTATION TODAY? NO. OR IN THE FUTURE? TODAY? NO, NOT TODAY. FOR THE FUTURE, BECAUSE, SO CONTINUE THAT CONVERSATION SURE. NOT TO SAY YES, MA'AM. SAY THAT THAT WOULD BE A PRIORITY, RIGHT. COMING OUT OF THIS MEETING, WHICH YOU JUST SAID THAT WAS A PRIORITY. WE NEED TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION BEFORE WE CAN MAKE IT A PRIORITY, SO, UNDERSTOOD. YES, MA'AM. AND I MEAN, WE'RE HEARING ABOUT IT FOR THE FIRST TIME RIGHT NOW. YES. AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT AS WE DISCUSS COMMUNICATION AND OTHER THINGS THAT WERE PRESENTED EARLY ON, THAT WE ARE COMMUNICATED AND NOT TOLD SOMETHING THE MINUTE WE WALK IN THE ROOM, THAT THERE IS A REQUEST, UH, FOR SOMETHING ELSE. SO, UM, THAT WAS SPRUNG ON US AT THE LAST MINUTE. AND TO BE CLEAR, THAT IS, THAT DOES FACTOR INTO THE BUDGET, BUT THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY, WELL, DO YOU WANNA SPEAK TO THIS BEFORE I SAY SOMETHING WRONG? . OKAY. UM, THE MANAGER WILL FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH THE CONVERSATION AND HE'LL PUT IT INTO THE BUDGET. HOWEVER, YOU ALL, HOWEVER HE DISCERN, FIGURES OUT THE WAY YOU GOT DIRECTION YOU'RE GONNA GO IN. YES, SIR. SO, UH, JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION HERE. THE, UM, THESE EIGHT PRIORITIES, HOWEVER MANY THERE ARE, UH, FANTASTIC. GREAT. GLAD WE DO DOVE INTO THOSE. ERIC, I'M, I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING, UM, WHY WE DIDN'T TALK TODAY ABOUT, UH, SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT SHOWED UP ON SA SPEAK UP, AND MAYBE I MISSED IT. UH, YOU KNOW, PARKS AND RECREATION, LIBRARY SERVICES, CODE ENFORCEMENT, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, COUNCILMAN, ALL THOSE, ALL THOSE TOPICS ARE, UM, AVAILABLE FOR DISCUSSION TODAY. UM, WE, WE IDENTIFIED THE, THE LARGER, UH, POLICY ISSUES, BUT AS, AS WE SAID LAST WEEK, THESE ARE, THESE WERE AREAS THAT BASED ON CONVERSATION FROM THE FORECAST CONVER, UH, PRESENTATION THAT WE'RE AT LEAST THE LARGER POLICY ISSUES. BUT, BUT EVERYTHING'S ON THE TABLE. THE PARKS, LIBRARIES, IF YOU, UH, JEFF QUAIL'S BACK THERE IN THE BACK, HE'S READY TO TALK ABOUT THE SA SPEAK UP. ALL THOSE ISSUES ARE, ARE AVAILABLE FOR ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION. OKAY. WELL, I'M NOT, WELL, I'M NOT, I'M NOT GONNA STAND IN THE WAY OF EVERYBODY GOING HOME RIGHT NOW BY REQUESTING A PRE, LIKE A FULL PRESENTATION AND, UH, A FULL BLOWN DISCUSSION WITH THE CARDS AND ALL THAT STUFF ON, UH, ON ANY OF THESE. BUT I, I'LL TALK TO YOU OFFLINE. YEAH. AND, AND I, THAT'S, THAT'S ANOTHER GOOD POINT. WE, WE CAN HAVE, WE CAN HAVE, UM, A DISTRICT CONVERSATION OFFLINE. THERE'S, THERE ARE OTHER AREAS, I MEAN, ONE EXAMPLE THAT COUNCILWOMAN GONZALES HAS TALKED A COUPLE TIMES ABOUT, UM, THESE SMALLER, UM, PLANNING EFFORTS FOR A COUPLE OF, UM, A COUPLE OF AREAS IN THE DISTRICT THAT ARE NOT HUGE PROJECTS. AND THEY'RE, AND, AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE LIKELY REDIRECTION OF SOME EXISTING MONEY, BUT THEY ARE PRIORITIES. AND SHE'S COMMUNICATED THOSE TO ME. SEE, AND I, AND I'VE PROBABLY HAD SIMILAR CONVERSATIONS WITH, WITH EVERY COUNCIL DISTRICT. SO IF, IF WE NEED TO HAVE SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT, UM, UM, SOMETHING SPECIFIC, THEN WE CAN DO THAT NEXT WEEK OR OFFLINE. AND COUNCILMAN CUR YOU HAVE A COMMENT QUESTION? YEAH. I JUST WANNA KIND OF TIE INTO WHAT, WHAT BOTH OF MY COUNCIL, UH, COLLEAGUES HAVE JUST SAID. AND, AND THAT IS, YOU KNOW, WE CAME HERE NOT REALLY UNDERSTANDING EVERYTHING THAT WAS GOING TO BE COVERED. AND I THINK THERE'S MORE TO BE COVERED. UH, AND I HOPE THAT [05:35:01] ONCE WE GET A, A FEEL FOR WHAT THE BUDGET CONSTRAINTS ARE GOING TO BE, WE HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW MUCH IS GOING TO COME IN AND WHAT SOME OF THE ABSOLUTE BASICS ARE PROJECTED TO COST. AND THEN START TALKING ABOUT OTHER PRIORITIES THAT WE HAVE IN OUR DISTRICTS OR PRIORITIES THAT WE SHARE, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, COMPENSATION FOR OUR STAFF OR DEVELOPMENT OF SOME KIND OF A, A SPECIAL PROJECT FOR CHILDREN AND FAMILIES. I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO HAVE MORE TIME TO EXPLORE THOSE. AND, AND YOU GO AROUND, TALK TO ALL OF US INDIVIDUALLY, BUT I THINK COLLECTIVELY, WHEN WE CAN SIT DOWN AND SHARE AMONG ONE ANOTHER LIKE WE DO HERE, UH, THERE'S A LITTLE MORE UNDERSTANDING. AND, UH, IT'S A LITTLE EASIER TO COME TO A CONSENSUS THAT WAY THAN JUST INDIVIDUAL CONVERSATIONS. SO WHEN WE FIND, WHEN WE FIND OUT WHAT THE, THE RESOURCES ARE GONNA BE, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE ANOTHER TALK ABOUT WHAT ARE ADDITIONAL OR SPECIAL PRIORITIES THAT NEED TO BE PART OF THE WHOLE PROCESS. THAT'S MY WAY OF THINKING. SO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THIS, THIS WAS A VERY CRITICAL MEETING, BUT THE NEXT STEPS ARE TO CONTINUE CONVERSATIONS. THE CITY MANAGER WILL DRAFT THE PROPOSED AGENDA, I MEAN, PROPOSED BUDGET. Y'ALL WILL HAVE SOME TIME TO REVIEW IT, AND THERE WILL BE AN OPEN SESSION TO DISCUSS THAT PROPOSED BUDGET. AND IT NEEDS TO BE ADOPTED BY SEPTEMBER, SEPTEMBER 12TH. SEPTEMBER 12TH IS THE ADOPTION DATE. SO WE HAVE A COUPLE OF MONTHS TO GET IT TOGETHER AND REALLY DELVE INTO WHAT HIS PROPOSALS ARE, WHERE THE MEN, THE RESOURCES WE, UH, WILL BE COMING FROM AND SO FORTH. SO, UM, UH, MANAGER WALSH, YOU HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION FROM TODAY'S SESSION, OR DO YOU WANT ANY CLARIFICATION ON ANY OF THE TOPICS? , THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. UM, SO, UM, WE'RE GONNA POST FOR FIVE O'CLOCK ON MONDAY, AND WE'RE GETTING THAT ON EVERYBODY'S AGENDA. FIVE O'CLOCK SOMEWHERE, UH, FIVE O'CLOCK ON MONDAY. , UH, TO, UM, CONSIDER THE, UH, HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION THAT, UH, WAS DISCUSSED HERE. SO THAT'LL, AND, AND, AND SO WE'LL BE PREPARING AN, AN A PRESENTATION AND WALK THROUGH SOME SCENARIOS AND BE PREPARED FOR A LARGER CONVERSATION ON THAT. BEYOND THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS MY FIRST, UM, BUDGET WORK SESSION. AND, UM, WELL, TO BE CLEAR, THIS IS HIS FIRST, HE'S BEING HUMBLE. THIS IS HIS 18TH BUDGET SESSION. YEAH. BUT I WAS, THIS WAS HIS FIRST CITY MANAGER, BUT I WAS SITTING THE BACK, UH, EATING COOKIES. HAD TO, HAD TO PAY ATTENTION THE ENTIRE DAY. IT WAS STRESSFUL. BUT I, I WANT, I WANT TO THANK THE, THE MAYOR COUNCIL FOR, UM, UH, FOR TODAY. IT WAS, I DID GET A LOT OF GOOD INPUT. UM, AND TO COUNCILMAN KURT'S, UH, POINT, UM, IT'S NOT OVER. UM, WE, WE DO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF WORK TO DO OVER THE SUMMER. UM, AS I MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE, OF THE DAY, OUR FINANCIAL FRAMEWORK IS CHANGING, HAS CHANGED. AND, UH, IT WILL CHANGE THE WAY THAT, UM, THAT WE NEED TO, UH, PLAN AND INVEST AND BUDGET FOR, UM, FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AND SO, UM, THAT'S CRITICAL. UM, IT'S CRITICAL TO NOT JUST NEXT FISCAL YEAR, BUT CRITICAL TO HOW WE'RE GOING TO PLAN INVESTMENTS, UH, GOING FORWARD LONG TERM. AND, UH, I CAN'T STRESS THAT ENOUGH. UM, BUT I DO WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR THEIR, FOR THEIR, UM, INPUT AND PARTICIPATION TODAY. I, WE, WE'RE NOT FINISHED. OH, WE'RE NOT FINISHED. EVERYBODY'S PACKING UP. LIKE YOU'RE, THEY'RE GONNA LEAVE AS SOON AS YOU'RE FINISHED AND SAY, WE'RE NOT FINISHED, . OKAY. YEAH, WELL GO AHEAD. OKAY. I, WELL THEN I'LL SAVE THAT TO THEM. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO, UM, ANYTIME LINDA AND I FACILITATE A SESSION, WE ALWAYS END WITH A REFLECTION, SO THAT INPUT FROM YOU ALL THE EVALUATION SHEETS, UM, WHERE'S MARIA? MARIA, WERE Y'ALL ABLE TO MAKE COPIES OF THE EVALUATION SHEET? MARIA OR JUSTINA? ? SAY WHAT? I EMAILED IT. I EMAILED IT TO Y'ALL YESTERDAY. CAN YOU PRINT SOME? OKAY. UH, WE HAVE SOME EVALUATION FORMS COMING, SO WE'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND START ON THE REFLECTION. I'M NOT GONNA CALL ON EVERYBODY, UM, BUT I WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR PARTICIPATION JUST SO WE CAN GET A REFLECTION FOR THE DAY. SO THE FIRST QUESTION IS, WHAT WAS YOUR HIGHLIGHT FOR THE DAY AS WE WERE WORKING THROUGH ALL THESE ISSUES TOGETHER? YES, MA'AM. HEARING FROM MY NEW COUNCIL COLLEAGUES AND THEIR PERSPECTIVES. VERY NICE. THANK YOU. , GO AHEAD. IF, WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. I LIKED COUNCIL . , UH, I LIKED WHAT COUNCILWOMAN SULLIVAN, UH, SAID WHEN SHE, SHE PUT EVERYTHING INTO THE CONTEXT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I WAS REALLY INSPIRED HEARING THOSE [05:40:01] WORDS. OKAY. OTHER HIGHLIGHTS? YES, SIR. MY HIGHLIGHT WAS HEARING A GENERAL FEELING ON THE COUNCIL THAT WE NEEDED TO MOVE FORWARD ON TAX RELIEF. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE WANNA SHARE THEIR HIGHLIGHT FOR THE DAY? YES, SIR. YOU KNOW, THE PAST TWO YEARS, UH, HAVE, I'M JUST GONNA SAY WHAT A LOT OF YOU HAVE ARE THINKING OR WHAT YOU'VE SAID IN BREAKS THROUGHOUT THE DAY. THE PAST TWO YEARS HAVE BEEN CHARACTERIZED BY A LOT OF DIVISIVENESS AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AD HOMINEMS AND SNARKINESS AND ALL THAT. AND THE FACT THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE A SINGLE ONE OF THOSE TODAY SAYS A LOT. AND, UH, I WANNA THANK ALL OF YOU FOR MAKING TODAY VERY PLEASANT. UM, NUMBER TWO, THIS ROOM WAS VERY COMFORTABLE. THE SNACKS WERE DELICIOUS. THE AV WORKED JUST FINE. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THE STAFF WHO ORGANIZED THIS, THANK YOU SO MUCH. YES, THANK YOU TO THE STAFF. ANY, OKAY, GO AHEAD. SORRY, ONE MORE THING. UM, ON THAT NOTE, I WANNA THANK THE STAFF BECAUSE IT WAS COLD THIS MORNING AND NOW IT'S NOT. APPRECIATE IT. IT'S ALSO 127 OUTSIDE RIGHT NOW, AND IT WAS ONLY 85 THIS MORNING. SO ANY OTHER HIGHLIGHTS YOU WANNA SHARE WITH EACH OTHER? YES, SIR. I FEEL LIKE, UM, WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED, ACCOMPLISHED QUITE A BIT, UH, JUST WITH, UH, UNDERSTANDING THE PRIORITIES OF THE CITY. BUT THIS IS THE FIRST BUDGET SESSION THAT I'VE BEEN TO THAT'S ACTUALLY ENDING ON TIME. AND WE STARTED, WHICH IS REMARKABLE, 20 MINUTES. CONGRATULATIONS. UH, SONIA AND LINDA, ANY OTHER HIGHLIGHTS? ANYBODY WANTS TO SHARE? YES, MA'AM. I CAN HONESTLY SAY BEING A NEWBIE OR A FRESHMAN AT THE TABLE, UM, TO BE ABLE TO HAVE WISDOM THAT IS SHARED ACROSS THE BOARD OF US ACTUALLY WORKING AT A UNIT. TRULY MADE THIS, UM, SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN REMEMBER AS YOU GO THROUGHOUT THE DAYS OF, OF SERVING THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. AND I JUST THANK EVERYONE FOR THAT. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? GOOD. OKAY. WHAT ABOUT, WHEN DID YOU RUN LOW ON ENERGY OR THOUGHT WE ARE NEVER GOING TO GET THROUGH THIS SESSION? UH, FOR THE FIRST, UH, HOUR AND 45 MINUTES, I THOUGHT THAT WAS . WELL, WE WERE DOING THE, YEAH, I'M NOT KIDDING. THE CO I THINK IF MY CONSTITUENTS, UH, HAD BEEN WATCHING A VIDEO OF US DOING THAT, THEY WOULD'VE BEEN MAD AT, UH, US TAKING A BALL THAT TIME. UM, I, I GOT SOME, YOU KNOW, I GOT SOMETHING GOOD OUT OF IT. I'M NOT SURE IT NEEDED TO BE AN HOUR AND 45 MINUTES. MM-HMM. , ANYBODY ELSE? I DIDN'T, I MEAN, I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT IT WAS WELL PACED. I THOUGHT THE, THE, UH, SEQUENCE WAS GOOD. I, I, I APPRECIATED US, UH, TALKING THROUGH VALUES AND, AND SHARED NORMS FOR, FOR THE DAY. I THINK IT WAS A, I THINK IT WAS, UH, WELL USED TIME ACTUALLY. AND I WILL SAY THAT, UH, WE WERE CHARGED WITH DOING SOMETHING THAT WOULD GARNER CONSENSUS AND PERHAPS, UH, PRODUCE A WAY FOR Y'ALL TO WORK TOGETHER AS A CODIS ABILITY. AND THAT WAS THE REASON WHY. AND UNFORTUNATELY, CONSENSUS WORKSHOPS, IF YOU CUT 'EM SHORT, YOU DON'T REALLY GET A GOOD PRODUCT AT THE END. BUT I, YOUR POINT IS VERY WELL TAKEN. ANYBODY ELSE WANNA ADD ANYTHING TO THAT? WHAT ABOUT WHAT MAKES YOU HOPEFUL FOR THIS NEXT TERM? SOME OF Y'ALL HAVE TOUCHED ON IT ALREADY, BUT I'D LIKE YOU TO BE A LITTLE MORE EXPLICIT ABOUT WHAT REALLY MAKES YOU HOPEFUL. I THINK THIS COUNCIL, UM, I'M SORRY. NO PROBLEM. UM, I THINK, I THINK THAT, THAT THE GROUP HERE, UM, BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, A VERY CLEAR SENSE OF, UM, CULTURE AND HOW WE SHOULD TREAT EACH OTHER RESPECTFULLY AND HOW WE WORK THROUGH DISSENT HAS THE ABILITY TO OVERCOME A LOT OF, UM, POTENTIAL DIFFERENCES OF VIEWS. THE FACT THAT I THINK WE'RE WALKING OUT OF HERE REMARKABLY WITH NEAR CONSENSUS, IF NOT ALMOST UNANIMITY ON THE ISSUE OF A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, IS REALLY UNBELIEVABLE. UH, GIVEN WHERE WE'VE BEEN OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS. I KNOW THERE'S STILL SOME DISAGREEMENT, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH ALMOST PRETTY MUCH UNIVERSAL AGREEMENT THAT WE SHOULD AT LEAST VOTE ON THIS. OKAY. AND, AND I'M HEARING THAT, THAT PEOPLE ARE, ARE GENERALLY ACCEPTING OF, OF OUR ROLE IN THIS NOW. SO, UM, THAT'S A PRETTY REMARKABLE, UH, GAP TO HAVE BRIDGED IN SUCH A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. IT'S QUITE A BIG ADVANCEMENT FROM MY MEETING WITH THE MANAGER LAST THURSDAY. SO GOOD. YES, MA'AM. I THINK WHAT GIVES ME HOPE IS THAT, UH, WHAT WAS IT TWO BUDGETS AGO? WE, WE DID A BUDGET OF EQUITY MAYOR, AND THEN LAST YEAR WE FOCUSED ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND DID SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENTS IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND THIS YEAR THE STRONG FAMILIES AND CHILDREN I THINK IS GONNA BE ANOTHER, UM, TRANSFORMATIVE ELEMENT TO OUR BUDGET. SO I LIKE THAT PROGRESSION AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD. THANK YOU, [05:45:01] DR. GARCIA. I'M HOPEFUL, UM, BECAUSE I, WHAT I SAW TODAY WAS, UH, JUST EVERYBODY COMING TOGETHER AND I WANNA THANK MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES, UH, FOR BEING SO NICE TO THE FRESHMEN AND ALLOWING US TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN ANSWERED IN THE PAST TWO OR FOUR YEARS. UH, AND I'M JUST LOOKING FORWARD TO, I THINK THAT I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS, BUT I THINK THIS COUNCIL HAS THE DIVERSITY OF EXPERIENCE THAT IS TRULY NEEDED BEYOND GENDER, BEYOND, UH, ETHNICITY. UM, BEYOND JUST GENERAL DEMOGRAPHICS. I THINK THAT WE HAVE THAT EXPERIENCE THAT IS NEEDED TO REALLY MOVE OUR CITY FORWARD. THANK YOU. DOES ANYBODY ELSE WANNA ADD ANYTHING? YES, SIR. UM, ONLY TO SAY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN GETTING TEXTS ALL DAY ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WATCHING US ARE, ARE LIVE STREAMING THIS, UH, I, I REALLY JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN IN AND TO SEE, UH, A BUDGET AT WORK. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S NO SMALL THING TO BE WATCHING A LIVE STREAM ALL DAY LONG, UH, OF THE CITY COUNCIL GOING THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THESE COMPLEXITIES. SO THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU, YOU KNOW, WATCHING BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE WHOLE POINT OF US CREATING A BUDGET. IT'S FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AND, UH, I'M, I'M, I'M REALLY GRATEFUL THAT PEOPLE ARE WATCHING. DOES THAT MAKE YOU HOPEFUL? YEAH. OKAY. , BECAUSE I MEAN, I, I THINK, I THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I I SAY A LOT IS, UH, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE, PEOPLE NOTICE SOME OF THE THINGS. SOMETIMES THERE'S, THERE'S GONNA BE MISTAKES, SOMETIMES THERE'S GONNA BE SOME, SOME HICCUPS IN, IN THE CITY SERVICES. BUT FOR THE MOST PART, UM, WE'VE GOT A GREAT CITY, GREAT GREAT CITY STAFF, GREAT PEOPLE WORKING ON THEIR BEHALF, AND FOR THEM TO SEE, UH, THE WORK THAT'S GOING INTO IT AND WHY IS, IS SO IMPORTANT. AND SO THE FACT THAT THEY'RE INTERESTED MAKES ME HOPEFUL. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. YEAH. ON, ON THAT NOTE, UH, THE CITY DOES HAVE A LIVE STREAM ON ITS, UH, SOCIAL MEDIA, UH, WHICH IS INTERACTIVE. MM-HMM. PEOPLE CAN INTERACT WITH IT. AND WE'VE, WE'VE GOTTEN SOME NOTES HERE. UM, AND I'D JUST LIKE TO THANK THE FOLKS WHO ARE, WHO ARE WATCHING, WHO HAVE PROVIDED SOME FEEDBACK. KENNETH RAMY FROM DISTRICT ONE HOPES TO SEE MORE INNOVATIVE IDEAS TO LEAD SAN ANTONIO INTO THE FUTURE. ERIC VELASQUEZ, WHO SAYS HE IS FROM THE VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD, MINGA, PUNGA PANTOJA FROM, UH, PARK VILLAGE, JORDAN GOEY FROM BEACON HILL, KATIE SMITH IN LOS ANGELES HEIGHTS, JEREMIAH, DAVID, LYDIA GARZA, UM, AND A LIST GOES ON. BUT, UM, A LOT OF FOLKS TO THANK FOR, FOR BEING PART OF GOVERNMENT IN ACTION. AND I, I GUESS THIS IS A GOOD WAY OF PAVING THE WAY FOR OUR PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. UM, ABSOLUTELY PROTOCOL. THANK YOU ALL. COUNCILMAN PERRY, YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY? YEAH, I'M HOPEFUL THAT, UH, THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING HERE TODAY AND OUR NEXT DISCUSSIONS AND FINAL BUDGET PREPARATION AND, AND ADOPTION, THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR PEOPLE HERE IN SAN ANTONIO ARE GONNA BE HAPPY WITH US AND HAPPY WITH THE RESULTS THAT COME OUT OF THESE MEETINGS AND, AND THE FINAL BUDGET. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M HOPEFUL FOR. GOOD. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. I'M HOPEFUL THAT WITH THE FULL TRANSPARENCY THAT WE ARE OFFERING AS A CITY COUNCIL, AS REPRESENTATIVES OF EACH AND EVERY AREA THAT WE SERVE, ARE APPRECIATIVE OF THE FACT THAT WE ARE ALLOWING OURSELVES TO BE PLACED IN FULL TRANSPARENCY TO WHERE THEY CAN HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ARE TRULY DEDICATED TO WORKING FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AS A WHOLE. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. YEAH, IT REALLY PLEASES ME HOW WELL WE ALL WORK TOGETHER. AND I THINK THAT ALL OF US REALIZE, YOU KNOW, A COUNCILMAN FOR ONE DISTRICT IS REALLY A COUNCIL PERSON FOR THE WHOLE CITY BECAUSE THE DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE HERE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER AFFECT THE LIVES OF EVERYBODY. SO I'M GLAD WE'RE WORKING SO WELL TOGETHER. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER LAST CLOSING COMMENTS FROM ANYBODY? I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO THE MAYOR AND CITY MANAGER IN JUST A MOMENT, BUT JUST ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WANNA SAY ANYTHING? OKAY. WE HAD A MEETING EVALUATION FORM. UH, UNFORTUNATELY WE DIDN'T GET IT PRINTED, BUT I DO ENCOURAGE YOU, MOST OF YOU KNOW HOW TO GET AHOLD OF ME IF YOU DON'T. UM, WE DO THE MEDIAN EVALUATIONS FOR OUR BENEFITS SO THAT WE CAN MAKE ADJUSTMENTS AS WE CONTINUE TO FACILITATE. UM, SO IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING, A BURNING COMMENT OR SOMETHING, I'VE HEARD A COUPLE ALREADY. UM, AND WE WILL TAKE THOSE TO HEART AS WE CONSIDER, UH, OTHER WORKSHOPS. SO LIKE THIS THAT WE WOULD BE FACILITATING. UM, AS A CITIZEN OF SAN ANTONIO, I'M VERY PLEASED WITH THE WAY THIS WENT. UM, IT'S VERY NICE TO SEE YOU ALL WORKING, UH, COOPERATIVELY TOGETHER. UM, I DO A LOT OF WORK WITH THE TRANSPORTATION, UH, DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, TXDOT. UM, I DO A LOT OF WORK WITH THE CITY. I DO A LOT OF WORK WITH THE COUNTY. OUR WORK IS WITH GOVERNMENT AGENCIES. AND [05:50:01] SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT A HUNDRED PEOPLE A DAY MOVING TO SAN ANTONIO. SO EVERY DECISION THAT YOU ALL MAKE IS AFFECTING ANOTHER HUNDRED EVERY, YOU KNOW, EVERY MONTH, I'M SORRY, NOT EVERY DAY , EVERY MONTH A HUNDRED PEOPLE ARE MOVING TO SAN ANTONIO. SO Y'ALL HAVE A TREMENDOUS BURDEN TO CARRY AND TO, AND PEOPLE ARE LOOKING TO YOU TO MAKE, UM, DECISIONS THAT ARE REALLY GONNA IMPROVE THEIR LIVES. SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT THOUGHTFULNESS THAT YOU ALL HAVE TAKEN TO THIS DEGREE. BRINGING UP THE TOPICS THAT WERE NOT BROUGHT UP, BUT THAT WERE MENTIONED ON THE SURVEY ARE VERY IMPORTANT. AND THOSE WILL NOT BE LEFT BEHIND. THEY WILL BE INCLUDED. UM, SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE TIME AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THIS FOR YOU ALL. UM, I APPRECIATE ALL THE SUPPORT FROM CITY STAFF TO GET TO THIS POINT. UH, MY FIRST MEETING WITH THE MANAGER WAS LAST THURSDAY, AND I TOLD HIM, I DON'T THINK THE MAYOR'S ASKED ME TO DO ANYTHING BUT MORE THAN 10 DAYS OF NOTICE. SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, UH, CONSISTENT, WHICH IS FINE. SO AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL SO VERY MUCH. I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO THE MAYOR AND THE CITY MANAGER FOR THEIR CLOSING REMARKS, AND THEN WE'LL BE DONE FOR THE DAY. THANK YOU ALL. JUST WANNA THANK EVERYBODY FOR THEIR PARTICIPATION. I KIND OF SAID, UH, THAT MY CLOSING REMARKS, UH, 'CAUSE I WAS OFF SCHEDULE A LITTLE BIT, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IT WAS VERY BENEFICIAL AND I WANNA THANK THE STAFF THAT, UH, PUT EVERYTHING TOGETHER AND KEPT US ON TASK. THERE WAS A LOT OF, UH, THERE WAS A LOT OF WORK GOING INTO TODAY'S, UH, UM, EFFORT AND JUST WANNA THANK THEM. AND I'LL WRAP UNBELIEVABLY ON TIME. , UM, THANK YOU TO EVERYONE, UH, ON STAFF WHO'S BEEN SUPPORTING US TODAY. UH, TO THOSE FOLKS WATCHING AND CERTAINLY TO, UH, LINDA AND SONYA FOR GUIDING US THROUGH TODAY. UH, IT'S BEEN A FRUITFUL, UM, DAY TO DAY TO SET THE PRIORITIES OF THE CITY. WE'RE AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL, AND THE NEXT TIME WE TALK, WE'RE GONNA ACTUALLY START SEEING NUMBERS TO DEPARTMENT BUDGETS THAT HOPEFULLY REFLECT OUR PRIORITIES. IT'S A HUGE LIFT, AS YOU KNOW, UM, WITH THE CONSTRAINTS THAT WE HAVE, NOT JUST ON OUR REGULAR CITY BUDGET, BUT THOSE NEW CONSTRAINTS THAT ARE COMING FROM OTHER PLACES. BUT I, I THINK WE HAVE THE RIGHT TEAM IN PLACE TO DO IT. AND THAT'S, UH, ALSO, UH, UH, MOST CERTAINLY ATTRIBUTED TO THE TEAM AROUND THE DIOCESE TODAY. I'M VERY GRATEFUL, UH, I'VE SAID IT BEFORE, BUT, UH, PEOPLE CONTINUE TO COMMENT ABOUT THE LEVEL OF ENERGY ON THE CITY COUNCIL IN SUCH A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. THIS IS OUR FIRST REAL DAY OF STARTING ANEW AS THE 20 19 20 21 CITY COUNCIL. AND, UH, I, I SAW US DEMONSTRATE THE VALUES THAT WE SAW THAT WE SAID WE WANTED TO SEE FROM EACH OTHER. UH, CONSENSUS BUILDING, ACTIVE LISTENING, UH, TREATING EACH OTHER WITH RESPECT, FINDING CONSENSUS, AND, UH, IF THAT'S HOW WE CONTINUE OURSELVES THROUGH THE YEAR AND THROUGH THE NEXT TWO YEARS. AND I THINK THIS IS GONNA BE A GREAT PRODUCTIVE, UH, FUN AND, UM, CERTAINLY, UM, REPRESENTATIVE CITY COUNCIL OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WE SERVE. SO THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH AND HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND. SEE YOU ON MONDAY. THANK. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.