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CAN WE PLEASE HAVE A ROLL CALL? HMM.
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PRESENT.UH, WE WILL HAVE ITEMS TODAY CONSIDERED IN TWO SEPARATE AGENDAS.
THE THE FIRST BEING A CONSENT AGENDA WHERE ALL ITEMS WILL BE, UH, DISCUSSED AND DELIBERATED BY THE COMMISSION IN ONE ACTION WILL BE TAKEN.
UM, AND THEN ITEMS THAT WILL BE HEARD INDIVIDUALLY.
SO TODAY ALL ITEMS ARE ELIGIBLE FOR CONSENT EXCEPT FOR ITEM 6, 7, 8, 9, 12, AND 14.
AND PRIOR TO US CONSIDERING THE CONSENT AGENDA, WE DO HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 10.
UM, J JAY SALINAS, IF YOU CAN STATE YES SIR.
IF YOU CAN STATE YOUR FULL NAME, ADDRESS, AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
THEY DIDN'T TELL ME I WAS GOING FIRST.
UM, MY NAME'S JASON F. SALINAS, 6,003 CELTIC.
UM, I ACTUALLY HAVE ONE QUESTION REGARDING ITEM NUMBER 10.
UH, SINCE I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NOT, NOTHING'S GONNA CHANGE EXCEPT FOR THE MAYBE THE LAND USE CATEGORY.
WHAT ARE THE PROJECTED USES FOR THAT PROPERTY? 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S, MY BACKYARD IS ACROSS THE STREET FROM THAT LAND, SO WE HAVE ENOUGH NOISE WITHIN ALL THE AMBULANCES THAT ARE GOING BY.
SO, UM, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ARE NOT GONNA BE INTERESTED IN ANY, ANY MORE HOUSING, WHICH, THAT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE.
UM, WHAT ARE THE PLANS FOR THAT LONG RANGE? I THINK NOT SHORT.
I THINK CITY STAFF CAN PROBABLY ADDRESS THAT OFF OFFLINE.
IF YOU'D LIKE THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM PLANNING DEPARTMENTS HERE, SO, OKAY.
I'LL RESERVE MY, NO, I DON'T WANT TO RESERVE IT.
UH, COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU, YOU HAVE ANY, DID YOU WANT ME TO ANSWER THAT, SIR? NO, I THINK YOU, I THINK OFF OFFLINE IS FINE.
UM, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DELIBERATION ON THE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? DO ANY COMMISSIONERS WISH TO PULL ANY ADDITIONAL ITEMS? HEARING NONE WILL ASK FOR A MOTION MOVE THAT THEY BE ACCEPTED ON US AS A UNIT.
MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA.
A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA BY COMMISSIONER MILAM.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SIEGEL.
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YES.ITEM NUMBER SIX, LOCATED AT 7 0 8 FREDERICKSBURG ROAD IS REQUESTING A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE TO APRIL 10TH, 2024.
DO I HAVE, UH, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? NO FURTHER DISCUSSION OF A MOTION.
I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONTINUANCE.
MOTION TO APPROVE APPLICANT'S, UH, UH, REQUEST TO APRIL 10TH, TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE BY VICE CHAIR PECK.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA.
I'M, I'M, I'M SORRY, MR. FINGER? YES.
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THREE MINUTES.HOW, HOW MUCH TIME DO WE HAVE, SIR? THREE MINUTES.
MR. CHAIRMAN, OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION BOARD? MY NAME IS JACK INGER.
I, I HEAR YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THIS FOR A WHILE.
I, UH, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO AT LEAST WOULD YOU PLEASE PASS OUT, UH, ALL THESE THAT, UH, TO THE YEAH, GO AHEAD.
ANYWAY, THE, UM, WHAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO GET IS A COPY OF THE STAFF'S MEMORANDUM FOR THIS.
THE QUE THING IS NOW YOU NOW SEE WHAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THESE THINGS.
YOU NOW KNOW THAT WE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD KNOW THESE THINGS AND THE, THE REASONS WHY.
WELL, I MEAN, WHAT DOES IT SAY? WELL, STAFF SAYS PROPOSED MINIMAL UNSUITABLE.
GIVEN THE, GIVEN THE PROXIMITY TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES, UH, THE HIGHER INTENSITY LAND, USE A BUTS TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND ALLOWS FOR UNDERLINE THAT WORD ENCROACHMENT INTO THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
SCROLL, SCROLL DOWN A LITTLE BIT IF YOU WOULD THERE.
AND IT'S CLEAR THAT ALCOHOL SALES IS NOT DOUBLE UNDERLINED, NOT A DESIRED USE WITHIN THE CORRIDOR.
NOW PLEASE UNDERSTAND THERE ARE NUMEROUS PROBLEMS WITH THIS DARN THING.
I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT, UH, IS THERE A TIME, TIME CLOCK HERE OR SOMETHING? YES.
WHAT'S OTHER PROBLEMS? I MEAN, YOU GOT THE PARKING, UH, PROBLEM.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE A, CAN YOU, UH, DISPLAY A MAP PERHAPS? YEAH.
YEAH, I PUT IT UP THERE IF YOU WOULD.
ANYWAY, BUT YOU GOT A PARKING PROBLEM THERE.
I MEAN, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, I THINK I UNDERSTAND YOU.
THE PARKING REQUIREMENT'S ACTUALLY GONNA BE CUT IN HALF.
I MEAN, YOU DON'T HAVE MUCH PARKING THERE RIGHT.
IN THE EASTERN CORNER OF THAT THING IN THE FIRST PLACE.
BUT, UH, YOU'RE GONNA CUT IT IN HALF AND YOU REALIZE THAT, UH, IT'S GOING TO, UH, PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE FORCED TO PARK, UH, ON ASHBY, ON FREDERICKSBURG.
THIS IS RIGHT NEXT TO NOT ONE, BUT TWO CHURCHES, TWO CHURCHES RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM EACH OTHER.
WELL, ONE OF THOSE CHURCHES HAS A SCHOOL JUST INCHES AWAY.
SO I THINK, I THINK THE TABC IS GONNA HAVE SOME, SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT THAT AS WELL.
AND, BUT OUR PATIENTS ARE GONNA BE FORCED TO PARK ANYWHERE WHERE THEY CAN FIND A SPOT, NAMELY ON THE CHURCH PARKING LOTS, MAYBE IN THE EVENINGS, WHETHER YOU HAVE CHURCH ACTIVITIES AND EVENTS, MEETINGS AND SO FORTH.
UH, YOU HAVE, YOU ALREADY HAVE A TATTOO PARLOR THERE.
UH, MAYBE NOTHING GO WRONG, BUT MAYBE IT WILL.
YOU ADD A, ADD A BAR TO THE TATTOO PAR PARLOR.
UH, THERE ARE FEARS OF WHAT CAN HAPPEN WITH INTERACTIONS WITH CHURCH, CHURCH ATTENDEES, WITH PEOPLE WHO CANNOT HOLD THEIR LIQUOR.
YOU AND I KNOW THERE ARE SUCH INDIVIDUALS THAT DO EXIST, AND WE ARE TRYING TO STAY THAT OFF AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
UH, THE IDEA IS THAT, AND, AND YOU ALREADY HAVE A BAR JUST TWO BLOCKS AWAY, JUST TO THE EAST THERE.
SO ANYWAY, THESE ARE SOME OF THE NEGATIVE THINGS.
WHY NOT SAY NO TO IT TODAY? THANK YOU.
UM, SO WE HAD A MOTION, UH, FOR CONTINUANCE TO FOUR 10.
CAN WE TAKE THE VOTE PLEASE? MOTION.
AND SECOND, I SHOULD SAY, COMMISSIONER PICK.
MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, PLEASE.
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, LOCATED AT 2 2 7 9 IS REQUESTING A FOUR WEEK CONTINUANCE TO APRIL 24.
ANY COMMISSIONER COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.
I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION MOVE TO CONTINUE.
MOTION TO CONTINUE TO THE APRIL 24TH PLANNING COMMISSIONER MEETING BY COMMISSIONER SIEGEL.
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IS LOCATED AT 3,400 MISSION ROAD AND THEY'RE REQUESTING A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE TO APRIL 10TH, 2024.AND WE DO HAVE SOMEBODY HERE TO SPEAK O ON THIS ITEM.
UM, ANY DISCUSSION? FURTHER DISCUSSION FROM THE COMMISSION.
HEAR, HEARING NOW, I'LL ASK FOR MOTION.
MOVE TO ACCEPT THE CONTINUANCE FOR TWO WEEKS.
SECOND, MOTION TO GRANT APPLICANT'S, UH, CONTINUATION TO APRIL 10TH BY COMMISSIONER MILAM.
ANN MENEZ ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE SAN ANTONIO INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT VICINITY LAND USE PLAN FROM COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL TO REGIONAL COMMERCIAL, AND IS LOCATED AT 1 3 5 2 5 WETMORE ROAD.
THE RETURN NOTICES THAT WITH ONE RETURN IN FAVOR, ZERO IN OPPOSITION, AND THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
THE PROPOSED PLAN AMENDMENT FROM COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL TO REGIONAL COMMERCIAL IS REQUESTED TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO C3 GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO BRING THE RESTAURANT EXISTING ON THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE AND TO PERMIT OTHER C3 GENERAL COMMERCIAL USES BY RIGHT.
THE SAN ANTONIO INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT VICINITY.
LAND USE PLAN DESCRIBES THE REGIONAL COMMERCIAL LAND USE CATEGORY AS BEING APPROPRIATE FOR AREAS 20 ACRES OR GREATER IN SIZE.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED NORTH OF WETMORE ROAD, AN ESTABLISHED COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR WITH A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PATTERN TO THE NORTH AND AN INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT PATTERN TO THE SOUTH.
THE EXISTING COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL SERVES AS A BUFFER BETWEEN THE INDUSTRIAL AND RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND IS MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
ADDITIONALLY, THE PROPERTY DOES NOT MEET THE SIZE CRITERIA FOR REGIONAL COMMERCIAL.
THE RESTAURANT COULD BE BROUGHT INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE PROPOSAL FOR C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND ANY ADDITIONAL C3 GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT USE COULD BE CONDITIONED DOWN WITH A CD.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND STAFF AND THE APPLICANT ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? YES.
IF YOU CAN STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.
MY NAME IS AHMED EZ, 1 9 0 0 6 SUMMER HAVEN OR ADDRESS.
SO WE, UH, PURCHASED, UH, THIS PROPERTY BACK IN, UH, UH, DECEMBER TIMEFRAME.
IT'S ONE OF THE OLD GRADYS THAT, UH, CLOSE DOWN.
UH, SO I WOULD LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, UH, UM, CURRENTLY ZONED, UH, R SIX AND, UH, WOULD LIKE TO BRING IT, UH, BACK TO IN LINE WITH THE, UH, WITH THE RESTAURANT AND, UH, UH, POSSIBLY A BAR, UH, USE.
UH, GOING FORWARD, UH, WE THINK THAT THE C3, UH, ZONING IS GONNA, UH, YOU KNOW, SATISFY THE REQUIREMENTS.
FOR A WHILE WE'VE BEEN APPROACHED BY, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, SEVERAL CANDIDATES TO RENT THE PROPERTY OUT.
OBVIOUSLY NEED SOME WORK, BUT, UH, UH, C3 WILL, WILL NEED TO BE, UH, FOR, FOR IT TO OPERATE AS A, AS A BAR GOING GOING FORWARD.
UH, ALSO, UH, THERE'S SOME, UH, ADDITIONAL, UH, LAND, UH, IN ADDITION TO THIS BUILDING THAT HAS, UH, SOME, UH, POTENTIAL FOR FUTURE USES.
UH, WE CURRENTLY ON AN OPERATE A AUTO DEALERSHIP, AS WE USE IT AS A, A AUTO DEALERSHIP AND A SERVICE CENTER.
UM, DO SOME DEVELOPMENT IN THAT LINE.
AND, UH, IF HE, UH, IF YOU CAN PROJECT, UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UH, AREA, IT'S, UH, IT'S CURRENTLY, UH, SURROUNDED BY A LOT OF, UH, THE C3 AND I, UH, UH, ZONED PROPERTIES.
AND, UH, WE FEEL THAT, UH, BRINGING THIS TO, UH, C3 WOULD FALL IN LINE, UH, WITH, WITH THAT ALSO.
AND, UH, AND, UH, GIVE US THE FLEXIBILITY THAT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THE PROPERTY, UH, IN THE FUTURE WITHOUT, UH, REFERRING TO THESE, UH, SPECIAL PERMITS, UH, NECESSARILY.
SO, UH, WITH THAT, WE REQUEST OUR, UH, UH, OUR PLAN AMENDMENT, UH,
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TO BE RESPECTFULLY APPROVED.WELL HAVE COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS DURING THE RIGHT.
COMMISSIONER MILAN, NO QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER GARCIA? NO QUESTIONS.
QUESTION FOR STAFF, UH, USING, UH, A BAR, A RESTAURANT IS THAT PERMISSIBLE IN C TWO? THE RESTAURANT IS PERMISSIBLE, BUT THE BAR IS NOT.
AND AGAIN, WE, UH, ARE NOT CONSIDERING A ZONING HERE IN THIS BODY, BUT, BUT PLAN, USE.
UM, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, UPHOLD STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL.
MOTION TO DENY APPLICANT'S REQUEST BY VICE CHAIR PECK.
AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA.
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ALL RIGHT.ITEM NUMBER 12, UM, WHICH VICE CHAIR PECK WILL RECUSE FROM TWO 17? AND COMMISSIONER PECK HAS LEFT THE MEETING.
GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.
ITEM NUMBER 12 IS FOR A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN, AMENDMENT FOR BECK ROAD.
UH, BECK ROAD IS CURRENTLY CLASSIFIED AS A SECONDARY ARTERIAL, A REQUIRING 86 FEET OF RIGHT OF WAY.
UM, THE SURROUNDING ZONING IS, IS THERE IS NO SURROUNDING ZONING ZONING AS THIS IS IN THE ETJ.
UH, SURROUNDING MAJOR ROADS ARE, UM, EXISTING BURCHARD ROAD FROM 0 4 0 0.4 MILES TO THE WEST, UH, NEW SULFUR SPRINGS ROAD, UH, WHICH IS 0.9 MILES NORTH OF THE AMENDMENTS, NORTHERN TERMINUS AND FOSTER ROAD, WHICH IS 1.83 MILES TO THE WEST.
UH, THE APPLICANT OF THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN AMENDMENT IS PADDLE GRID LLC, UH, THAT REPRESENTED HIM.
JAMES MCKNIGHT IS HERE IN ATTENDANCE TODAY.
UM, THE REQUEST IS TO REALIGN THE, UH, REALIGN THE PROPOSED SEGMENT OF BECK ROAD, UH, WHICH AGAIN IS SECONDARY ARTERIAL A UM, THE LIMITS OF THIS REQUEST IS FROM 0.9 MILES SOUTH OF NEW SULFUR SPRINGS ROAD, UH, TO EXISTING ON THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN, UH, BURCHARD ROAD.
UH, THE EXISTING LAND USES IN THE AREA AS OF RIGHT NOW IS RANCH LAND AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
UM, ON THE PICTURES THAT ARE SHOWN HERE, UM, TO THE LEFT IS THE AERIAL VIEW OF THE APPLICANT AND ADJACENT PROPERTIES, UM, TO THE RIGHT IT WOULD BE THE GROUND VIEW OF THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY.
NEXT WOULD BE THE GROUND VIEW OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THE NORTH OF THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY, AS WELL AS THE FUTURE, UM, AS WELL AS THE CURRENT EASTERN TERMINUS OF EXISTING BURCHARD ROAD AS CONSTRUCTED, AND THE WESTERN TERMINUS OF FUTURE BURCHARD ROAD, AS IT SHOWN ON THE MTP MAP.
UH, SO FOR PLAT APPLICATION HISTORY, THE PLATTING PROCESS BEGAN IN APRIL OF 2023.
UH, THE MI IS A MINOR PLAT, UH, CURRENTLY UNDER THE NAME OF PADUA BESS.
UM, THE MAJOR, THE MTP AMENDMENT PROCESS WAS INITIATED BY THE APPLICANT.
UH, REASON BEING IS BECAUSE THE CURRENT, UH, BECK ROAD ALIGNMENT CURRENTLY BISECTS THEIR PROPERTY.
UH, THE FACTORS THAT WE'VE CONSIDERED DURING THE MAJOR THIRD FAIR PLAN AMENDMENT, UM, IS LOCATED IN THE ETJ, UH, PROPOSED BECK ROAD REALIGNMENT ALIGNMENT, UM, WHILE ADJACENT TO THE FEMA OF 100 YEAR FLOODPLAIN DOES NOT CROSS THROUGH THE FLOODPLAIN.
UH, BEAR COUNTY DOES NOT HAVE CURRENT ANY CURRENT PLANS TO EXTEND BECK ROAD TO A SOUTHERN TERMINUS TO MEET UP FROM A SOUTHERN TERMINUS AT NEW SU SPRINGS ROAD TO MEET UP WITH FUTURE BURCHARD ROAD.
TEXAS DID NOT HAVE ANY PLANS TO CONNECT BECK ROAD AS WELL.
UM, AND THEN SAN ANTONIO RIVER AUTHORITY, DSD AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT, AMONG OTHER TECHNICAL REVIEWING AGENCIES HAD NO OBJECTIONS TO THIS AMENDMENT.
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UM, SO THIS IS OUR CURRENT TIMELINE.UH, WE CONDUCTED OUR PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING ON FEBRUARY 26TH OF THIS YEAR.
UM, FOLLOWING THAT WE HAD, UH, PTA, UH, PC TAC ON, UH, MARCH 1ST, 2024.
UH, CURRENTLY WE'RE OF COURSE WE'RE HAVING, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION AS OF RIGHT NOW.
AND THEN, UH, WE PLAN ON GOING TO CITY COUNCIL ON, UH, APRIL 4TH.
UH, FOR THE PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING, UH, WE HAD SEVEN MAILOUTS THAT WERE MAILED.
UM, THREE OF THEM HAPPENED TO GO TO THE APPLICANT, UH, AFFECTED RESIDENTS, UH, ATTENDED THAT ATTENDED.
THE PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING WAS TWO RESIDENTS.
UH, CONCERNS WERE PRIMARILY FROM DA, UH, MR. CRAMER, UM, REGARDING ROAD PLACEMENT, UM, IF NECESSARY, MAY BE WILLING TO SELL THE PROPERTY, ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT DESIRED.
UM, AND ALSO SUGGESTED AN ALTERNATIVE ROUTE.
UH, DURING THE PLANNING COMMISSION TAC, UM, SAME THING OCCURRED.
UH, SEVEN, SEVEN NOTICES WERE MAILED.
THREE TO THE APPLICANT, UM, AFFECTED RESIDENTS THAT ATTENDED P TAC WERE THREE RESIDENTS.
UH, ALL THREE RESIDENTS ATTENDED, UH, IN OPPOSITION TO THE MAJOR THIRD FAIR PLAN AMENDMENT.
UM, ALL AFFECTED RESIDENTS IN ATTENDANCE ASSIGNED TO SPEAK.
AGAIN, SPEAK AGAINST THE MAJOR THOROUGH FAIR PLAN AMENDMENT.
UH, BUT DAVID KRAMER SPOKE ON BEHALF OF HIMSELF.
UM, HIS WIFE, MRS. KRAMER, UH, MRS. JOHNSON AND MR. CISNEROS, UH, THEY YIELDED THEIR TIME TO HIM.
UH, CONCERNS, AGAIN, WERE SAFETY TO THE RELATED, UH, TO THE RELATED FACILITY FROM THE APPLICANT, UH, BY SETTING UP HIS PROPERTY AND PROPERTY DEVALUATION, UH, PTA PC TAC RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE, UM, MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN AMENDMENT AND THE CASE AND ME, UH, AND THE CASE MANAGER RECEIVED, UH, EMAILS FROM, UH, MR. KRAMER REGARDING HIS CONCERNS.
UH, TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND PC TCC ALSO RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MCKNIGHT.
GOOD AFTERNOON, JAMES MCKNIGHT, 1 1 2 EAST PECAN HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
SO YOU HAVE CONTROL, RIGHT? MM-HMM,
UM, OR CAN I DO IT FROM HERE? I CAN.
SO I WANTED TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THE DETAILS.
UM, I KNOW STAFF ALREADY, UH, COVERED SOME OF THEM, BUT THE WHO, WHAT, WHERE KIND OF HELPS I THINK.
THEY ARE AN, AN INVESTOR IN ENERGY PRODUCTS ACROSS THE US INCLUDING TEXAS.
UM, I HAVE, UH, MELISSA MILLER AND MEL SAMOO ARE HERE FROM OUR TEAM IF YOU WANT TO ASK ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS.
UM, THEY ALSO WORK WITH ERCOT.
AND THE REASON FOR THIS PROJECT IS TO, UH, WORK WITH CPS TO HELP THEIR HIGH DEMAND TIMES AND TO, TO BALANCE THE NEEDS OF THE CPS GRID.
SO THE, WHAT IS AN RFP THAT CPS PUT OUT FOR THIS KIND OF PRODUCT, FOR THIS KIND OF FACILITY, A BATTERY STORAGE.
AND SO AI AND ENERGY WAS THE WINNER OF THAT RFP, BUT CPS, UH, THROUGH THEIR OWN WORDS, IS LOOKING TO DIVERSIFY THAT GENERATION MIX FOR RESILIENCE AND RELIABILITY.
AND THIS WILL BE OWNED BY OILING AND ENERGY, BUT IT IS OPERATED BY CPS.
SO THEY HAVE EXCLUSIVE RIGHTS TO DISPATCH THAT POWER OUT OF THIS.
SO THIS WILL BE RUN BY CPS, THE WHERE, THIS IS THE, THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY JUST SHOWING ITS PROXIMITY TO CAL'S POWER PLANT.
BUT IT'S A 37 ACRE SITE THAT'S BEING PLATTED AS YOU ALREADY SAW THE, THE PLAT EARLIER IN THE ETJ.
AND HERE'S SOME OTHER ELEMENTS ABOUT THE SITE.
IT'S HARD TO SEE IT, BUT THERE'S A 235 FOOT OVERHEAD EASEMENT RUNNING THROUGH THE PROPERTY.
THERE IS FLOODPLAIN TO THE EAST, AND THERE ARE ALSO TWO FUTURE ROADWAYS.
THESE ARE BOTH POP PAPER ROADWAYS, UH, FUTURE BURCHARD ROAD THAT GOES PAST GARDNER ROAD TO THE, TO THE WEST, AND THEN FUTURE BECK ROAD.
SO NONE, NONE OF THAT THAT YOU SEE THERE IN GRAY EXISTS ALL THE WAY UP TO NEW SULFUR SPRINGS.
THERE IS NO BECK ROAD UNTIL YOU GET NEW SILVER SPRINGS.
HERE IS A PLAT THAT ISAAC ALREADY SHOWED, AND AS WE SAID, THIS IS FOR A BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEM.
SO I WANTED TO LOCATE THAT FOR YOU.
THAT'S THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION, ALTHOUGH THAT SHOWS MORE OF THE OUTER ROADS, NOT THE BATTERIES ITSELF.
AND I'LL ZOOM IN ON THAT A SECOND.
SO, THE Y FOR US IS THAT, THAT SHOWS THE CURRENT LOCATION OF THE EXTENDED BACK ROAD RIGHT THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF, WELL, NOT IN THE MIDDLE, BUT THE EDGE OF WHERE WE WANNA LOCATE THIS BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE.
AND THAT LOCATION WAS, UM, BY CPS.
SO HERE'S THE AMENDMENT THAT WE'RE REQUESTING.
SO WE'RE ASKING JUST TO MOVE THE ROADWAY AT THE VERY END, UM, TO THE EAST TO AVOID GOING THROUGH OUR PROJECT AND, AND OPENING THAT LAND.
IT ALSO MOVES IT, THE ROADWAY UP AGAINST THE FLOODPLAIN AREA SO THAT THERE'S NOT, WHAT YOU SEE NOW, IF YOU GET THIS RIGHT HERE, YOU'LL SEE THIS ROADWAY HAS THESE OVERHEAD EASEMENTS TO THE EAST, AND YOU HAVE FLOODPLAIN TO THE EAST.
SO ANY OF THE PROPERTY THAT'S IN THAT AREA KIND OF GETS SQUEEZED BY THOSE ELEMENTS.
BY MOVING EVERYTHING OVER TO THE, TO THE EAST, IT CAN OPEN UP THAT PROPERTY, NOT JUST FOR US, BUT THOSE NORTH OF US AS WELL.
OH, I DID WANNA POINT OUT THAT THIS ROADWAY TERMINATES HERE.
SO THE FUTURE, THERE IS NO, UH, BURCHARD THERE.
THAT WOULD BE THE FUTURE BURCHARD.
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PLAN TO, IT TERMINATES BECAUSE EVERYTHING SOUTH OF US BELONGS TO THE CITY.SO THIS CONNECTION BETWEEN NEW SULFUR SPRINGS AND DOWN TO BURCHARD ENDS HERE.
THERE'S A ZOOM IN ON THE PROJECT ITSELF, AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE THAT FUTURE BECK ROAD WOULD GO RIGHT THROUGH WHERE A PIECE OF THE PROJECT IS.
THE BATTERY STORAGE IS THERE TO THE, THE WEST OF THAT LINE.
BUT THE CONNECTION POINT WHERE CPS WOULD ACTUALLY TIE IN IS, IS RIGHT WHERE WE WANT, OR RIGHT WHERE THAT FUTURE ROADWAY WOULD GO.
THIS IS A 50 MEGAWATT BATTERY STORAGE SYSTEM IS DESIGNED TO BE UNMANNED.
SO THERE'S VERY MINIMAL TRAFFIC HERE.
IT'S JUST FOR, FOR MAINTENANCE REALLY.
AND THAT MAINTENANCE WOULD BE, UH, ON, I BELIEVE THAT'S MAINTENANCE IS S THAT'S RIGHT, YES.
IN A LARGER SCALE, SHOWING THAT SHIFT, YOU CAN SEE WE TRIED TO MAKE THAT AS MINIMAL AS POSSIBLE.
UH, IT IS AFFECTING, UH, SOME PROPERTY OWNERS NORTH OF US, BUT AS TRIED TO BE AS MINIMAL AS POSSIBLE.
THIS WAS A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN THAT TOOK PLACE JUST THREE YEARS AGO.
SO THE FUTURE ROADWAY USED TO END IN THAT FIVE POINT AT BURCHARD AND GARDNER.
AND, UH, THAT WAS SHIFTED OVER FOR A DEVELOPMENT AT NEW, NEW SULFUR SPRINGS TO THE NORTH.
SO THAT WAS A HUGE REALIGNMENT THAT TOOK PLACE.
THAT WAS ALREADY A ROAD THAT WAS CUTTING THROUGH A FUTURE ROAD THAT WAS CUTTING THROUGH ALL OF THESE PROPERTIES.
AND THEN THEY SCOOTED EVERYTHING OVER TO THE EAST.
IT AFFECTED ALL OF THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS AT THAT TIME.
OURS IS JUST THE VERY END AT THAT TERMINUS POINT, UH, TO, TO SHIFT IT OVER AND, AND JUST TRY TO CLEAR UP THE ROOM FOR OURSELVES.
IT MAINTAINS THE INTENT OF THE ROAD, AND THAT'S THE CONNECTION BETWEEN NO NEW SULFUR SPRINGS DOWN TO BURCHARD.
IT'S CONSISTENT WITH PUSHING THAT ROADWAY FURTHER EAST, FURTHER AWAY FROM THAT FIVE POINT TERMINUS THAT WAS, UM, PLANNED EARLIER IN WHICH STAFF SUPPORTED IT INCREASES THAT DEVELOPABLE PROPERTY.
IT HAS A MINIMAL IMPACT AND ULTIMATELY IT ALLOWS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SITE, WHICH HAS A LARGER BENEFIT THAN JUST OURSELVES.
WE DID LOOK AT SOME FLOOD PLAIN CONCERNS THAT ALONG THE WAY JUST TO, WE DID SOME EXTRA STUDIES JUST TO SHOW THAT THE ROADWAY WOULD BE OUT OF ALL THE FLOODPLAIN.
UH, SO THERE WAS THIS, AGAIN, THIS IS JUST PROOF TO SHOW THAT THERE IS NO ISSUE THERE.
AND SOME OF THE NEIGHBOR OUTREACH THAT WAS DONE.
SO THE, THE POGUE OWNERS THAT WERE ADJACENT TO US, WE CONTACTED THAT, CONTACTED THEM EARLY ON, THEY ENDED UP ACTUALLY SELLING THAT PROPERTY TO US.
SO THAT POGUE PROPERTY IS NOW PART OF OUR, UH, PART OF OUR PROPERTY, NOT PART OF THE PLATTED DEVELOPMENT AT THE MOMENT.
MR. KRAMER, WHO IS NORTH OF THAT.
THERE WERE SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE PROJECT.
UH, WE HAVE OFFERED TO ALLOW GRAZING AS PART OF WHAT WE'RE DEVELOPING ABOUT PURCHASING THE LAND.
THERE WAS AN OFFER PUT FORWARD TO PURCHASE THE LAND.
UH, WE FEEL IT WAS VERY GENEROUS OFFER, BUT IT WAS ULTIMATELY UNSUCCESSFUL.
BUT IT, THIS IS JUST TO SHOW THAT THERE WAS OUTREACH ALONG THE WAY.
AND MR. CISNEROS IS, IS THAT ONE IS VERY MINIMAL BECAUSE THERE'S ALREADY A ROAD BISECTING THE PROPERTY.
WE'RE JUST SHIFTING IT SLIGHTLY ON HIS PROPERTY.
SO SOME CLARIFICATIONS THAT THAT CAME UP ALONG THE WAY THAT I WANNA POINT OUT.
THERE'S, WE'RE NOT BUILDING THIS, THIS IS STILL A PAPER ROAD.
OUR DEVELOPMENT IS NOT TRIGGERING THE NEED TO BUILD THIS EITHER.
THERE'S NO FUTURE BURCHARD BEING BUILT BY US.
THERE'S NO FUTURE BECK ROAD BEING BUILT BY US.
SO THIS IS JUST FOR, UM, FUTURE ALIGNMENT.
THE ISSUE OF BEING CUT OFF, THIS CAME UP QUITE A FEW TIMES THAT, THAT THESE OWNERS SAYING IT'S BISECTING, MY LAND IS CUTTING US OFF.
OUR AMENDMENT IS NOT CUTTING ANYBODY OFF THAT HAS, THAT ROAD HAS EXISTED SINCE AT LEAST 2015 OR THE FUTURE ROAD HAS EXISTED SINCE 2015.
SO THAT IS NOT OUR DOING ALL OF THAT GREEN LINE THAT IS THERE, IT EXISTS, WE'RE ONLY CHANGING WHERE YOU CAN SEE THAT YELLOW PORTION, THE PROPERTY OWNERS INVOLVED.
UH, I GOT SEVERAL CALLS FROM PEOPLE NORTH ALONG THAT GREEN LINE, BUT NONE OF THEM ARE ACTUALLY PART OF THIS, UH, SHIFT, UM, CURRENT LOCATION.
AND THERE WAS, I THINK ISAAC EVEN POINTED OUT THERE WAS SUPPORT FOR AN ALTERNATIVE PLAN THAT RAN THIS ROAD EVEN FURTHER EAST THAN WE PUSHED IT.
BUT THAT WOULD GO THROUGH THE FLOODPLAIN.
AND STAFF SAID WE WOULD NEVER SUPPORT THE ROADWAY GOING THROUGH THE FLOODPLAIN.
SO IN CONCLUSION, THIS INTENDED CONNECTION BETWEEN NO SULFUR SPRINGS AND BOUCHARD IS THERE.
WE INCREASE THE DEVELOPABLE AREA, SHOWS A MINIMAL IMPACT AND IT DOES PROVIDE THESE GLOBAL BENEFITS.
NOW, THERE ARE QUESTIONS ABOUT SAFETY IN THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF.
I KNOW THIS IS ABOUT THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN, NOT ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, WE CAN DISCUSS THEM AND WE HAVE PEOPLE HERE THAT CAN ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
UH, MR. KRAMER, IF YOU CAN STATE YOUR NAME AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
WE'RE THE OWNERS OF THAT PROPERTY.
THEY SHOWED, UH, THIS IS EDDIE OLIAN HAD GIVEN TO ME IN OUR LAST CONTACT WITH THEM.
AND, UH, IT'S A, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THEY'RE SHOWING.
UH, THE, THEY, THEY TOLD US THEY WERE GONNA ALLOW US TO GRAZE THAT, BUT IT DOESN'T LOOK TO ME LIKE THERE'S ANY GRAZING LAND AVAILABLE ON THE PO PROPERTY.
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THE REASON WE'RE SO WORRIED ABOUT THIS AND WHY IT'S SUCH A CONCERN TO US IS BECAUSE THIS PUSHBACK OF THIS ROADWAY IS GOING TO ADJOIN AND OVERLAP EASEMENTS BETWEEN THIS ROAD CPS RIGHT AWAY.AND THEN THE NEXT THING IS THE, UH, THE CREEK BED, THE DRY CREEK BED.
SO IT VIRTUALLY GUARANTEES THAT WE HAVE NO WATER FOR LIVESTOCK.
IF THIS ROAD GOES THROUGH, WE CAN'T USE IT AND, UH, WE CAN'T SELL IT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE CAN EVEN COME UP WITH AN EASEMENT FOR THAT BACK PORTION OF THE PROPERTY WHEN THIS ROAD GOES THROUGH.
IF IT GOES THROUGH, WE HAVE TO SELL.
WE'RE, OUR CATTLE BUSINESS IS OVER WITH.
WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO, THE WAY IT EXISTS RIGHT NOW, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO, TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT, BUT IT'S GONNA SEVERELY DEVALUE OUR PROPERTY SIMPLY BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO, UH, GET WATER BACK THERE.
AND, AND THERE'S NO PLACE TO BUILD STOCK PINS SO THAT WE CAN PROVE THEM BACK AND FORTH.
'CAUSE WE CAN'T BUILD ANYTHING ON THESE EASEMENTS.
SO IT JUST, IT IS GONNA SHUT US DOWN.
WE THOUGHT THAT IF THE ROAD WAS WHERE IT ISN'T RIGHT NOW, THAT WE COULD SIMPLY JUST SUBDIVIDE AND SELL OUT AND GIVE IT UP.
BUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING TO US HERE IS, IS JUST DEVASTATING.
THE OTHER CONCERN WE HAVE IS SECURITY.
NOW, THIS IS REALLY NOT ON THIS AMENDMENT, BUT IT IS PART OF THIS ROADWAY.
AND THAT'S THE PART THAT GOES BESIDE THEIR, UM, BATTERIES.
AND THEY, THEY ALREADY MENTIONED THAT THESE BATTERIES ARE GONNA BE USED FOR DATA TO GATE DAY, TO GATE DAY-TO-DAY INTEGRAL USE WITH THE POWER PLANTS.
THIS THING SHOULDN'T EVEN BE OUTSIDE THAT COMPOUND.
THIS IS A HIGH SECURITY RISK FOR THE POWER PLANT AND I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT CPS ENERGY AND, AND EVEN ERCO PROVING SOMETHING LIKE THIS, BUT YOU'RE GIVING ACCESS TO ANY BAD ACTOR WITH THAT ARD EXTENSION TO GET TO THOSE BATTERIES.
AND ALL IT TAKES IS A FEW, WELL-PLACED GUNSHOTS AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A FIRE THAT CAN'T BE PUT OUT.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE AN ENVIRONMENTAL CATASTROPHE.
AND THAT MAY SOUND RIDICULOUS, BUT IT'S VERY SIMPLE.
I'VE DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH ON THESE BATTERIES SINCE THIS ALL BEGAN.
AND, AND THERMAL RUNAWAY IS A PROBLEM THAT PERSISTS AND IT HAS NOT BEEN CORRECTED.
THEY'RE DOING ALL KINDS OF THINGS TO TRY TO STOP IT, BUT IT'S STILL HAPPENING.
AND THERE WAS SEVEN IN THE UNITED STATES LAST YEAR, ACCORDING TO THE EPRI WEBSITE THAT SHOWS IT.
AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY LOOK AT THESE VIDEOS, THESE NEWSCASTS AND YOU CAN SEE THE EXTENT OF THESE FIRES.
SOME OF 'EM ARE HUGE, THEY'RE MAGNIFICENT.
AND SO THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES HERE THAT I DON'T HAVE TIME TO TALK, TALK ABOUT.
I'M, I'M JUST REALLY OUT OF TIME HERE, BUT, UH, UH, I, I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
BUT PUTTING THIS ROAD THERE IS, IS ASKING FOR IT.
IT'S JUST OPENING THE DOOR WIDE OPEN FOR A TERRORIST ATTACK AND IT WON'T BE LONG.
THERE'S NO FORM OF ALTERNATIVE ENERGY AROUND THERE.
IT'S OBVIOUS THERE FOR THE POWER PLANT USE.
PLEASE GIVE US CONSIDERATION THE APPLICANT WISH TO RESPOND.
ONE, THE, THE ACCESS TO WATER, OUR SHIFT, AS YOU CAN SEE, I KNOW IT'S HARD TO, I DON'T THINK THIS SHOWS UP FROM HERE TO HERE.
THAT TRIANGLE IS THE ONLY CHANGE THAT IS, THAT IS HAPPENING ON MR. KRAMER'S PROPERTY.
I CAN'T SEE HOW THE ROAD, FUTURE ROAD BEING HERE AS TO HERE WOULD CUT OFF ACCESS TO THE WATER.
THE ROAD, IF IT GETS BUILT, WOULD CUT OFF ACCESS AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS.
IT WOULD CUT OFF ACCESS AS IT EXISTED EVEN TO THE PRIOR TO THE AMENDMENT THAT TOOK PLACE IN 2021.
UM, BUT WE, WE ALSO DON'T FEEL LIKE THIS ROAD IS GONNA BE BUILT FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
BUT THAT'S, THAT SHOULDN'T BE THE CONCERN.
BUT I THINK THAT IS A REALITY.
UM, ALSO, AGAIN, I MENTIONED THAT THE SAFETY CONCERNS WERE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE PART OF THIS, BUT I DO WANNA MENTION A FEW THINGS.
THERE ARE A LOT OF FOLKS THAT LOOK AT THIS.
UH, FROM THE SAFETY SIDE, THERE ARE A LOT OF MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS THAT ARE PUT IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE THERMAL RUNWAY THAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
THERE ARE OFFSITE MANAGEMENT, THERE'S SOME ONSITE MANAGEMENT, THERE'S A EMERGENCY RESPONSE PLAN, THERE'S A HAZARD MITIGATION PLAN.
THOSE ARE BOTH EVALUATED BY THIRD PARTIES.
THE EMERGENCY SAFETY RESPONSE GROUP, THEY LOOK AT THOSE PLANS.
CPS IS LOOKING AT THOSE PLANS.
THERE ARE PLENTY OF, UM, SAFETY CATCHES IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THE DANGERS THAT HE'S SPEAKING OF AREN'T TAKING PLACE.
BUT FOR NOW, WE'RE JUST BUILDING THE, THE BATTERY BATTERY STORAGE AND IS NOT FOR DAY-TO-DAY USE.
THAT IS FOR, TO, TO USE AS CPSS NECESSARY.
WE'LL SEE IF THERE'S ANY COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER LOPEZ COUNSELOR, I JUST WANT TO QUICKLY MAKE CLEAR FOR THE REST OF THE COMMISSION THAT, THAT THE BUILDING OF THE ROAD IS CONTINGENT ON THINGS WELL BEYOND WHAT THE, THE BATTERY PLANT CONSTRUCTION IS.
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JUST KIND OF GIVE US A, YOU KNOW, JUST A SHORT STORY ON YOU.I AN EXAMPLE OF WHEN THE ROAD, BOTH THOSE TWO ROADS, RIGHT? YEAH.
THE ONE GOING NORTH AND SOUTH, ONE GOING EAST TO WEST.
WHAT COULD TRIGGER THEM BEING BUILT? RIGHT.
SO THE, THE, THOSE ARE BOTH TRIGGERED BY THE DEVELOPER OF THESE PROPERTIES, UH, CREATING A DEVELOPMENT THAT, THAT HA SHOWS A NEED FOR THAT ROAD.
IF THERE'S AN IMPACT IN THE DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY'RE DOING, IMPACT MEANING CARS THAT ARE COMING, THEN THE ROAD WILL GET BUILT.
AND THE DEVELOPER'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.
IN OUR CASE, BECAUSE WE HAVE EXTREMELY MINIMAL IMPACT OF CARS, THERE IS NO NEED FOR US TO BUILD THAT ROAD.
SO UNTIL WE DO THAT, WE'RE NOT, NOT BUILDING THAT ROAD THERE AND THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS TO THE NORTH OF IT, UNLESS THEY'RE DEVELOPING IT, THAT ROAD IS NOT GETTING BUILT.
IT'S ONLY IF THEY ARE CREATING AN IMPACT THAT THE ROAD WOULD ACTUALLY GET BUILT.
UH, PUBLIC COMMENT IS, IS CLOSED.
UM, ANY FURTHER DELIBERATION? HEARING NONE.
MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER LOPEZ.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SIEGEL.
UH, CAN WE LET COMMISSIONER PECK BACK IN? PLEASE? YEAH.
IT'S 2 37 AND VICE CHAIR PECK HAS REJOINED THE
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MEETING.ITEM 14 ARE THE MINUTES FROM MARCH 13TH.
ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS, OMISSIONS, EDITS, COMMENTS, DISCUSSION CLOSED.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE MINUTES? MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS THEY ARE.
MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, THE MINUTES BY COMMISSIONER MILAM.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA.
DO WE HAVE A STAFF DIRECTOR'S REPORT? NOTHING FOR TODAY.
IT'S 2 38 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.