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GOOD MORNING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

THE TIME IS NOW 9 0 8 AND THE DATE IS APRIL THE 11TH, 2024.

UH, WELCOME TO THE SAN ANTONIO BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD.

MY NAME IS DWAYNE NELSON.

I'M THE CHAIR OF THE BOARD TODAY.

IF WE COULD, LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

DWAYNE NELSON.

PRESENT.

JOEL SOLIS.

PRESENT, FRED ANDES.

PRESENT.

DR.

ERLINDA LOPEZ RODRIGUEZ.

PRESENT.

THOMAS FRANKS PRESENT.

KAYLA MIRANDA.

PRESENT.

DORA SOLI.

PRESENT.

MR. GEORGE GRIMES.

PRESENT.

ALSO PRESENT IN THE MEETING FROM THE CITY OF SAN OF SAN ANTONIO ARE ERIC BURNS FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND LUCINDA OROZCO.

AND FROM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

AMIN TOMAS, DEPUTY DIRECTOR JENNY RAMIREZ, CODE ENFORCEMENT MANAGER.

JUDY KRUM, BSV LIAISON, ESTHER ORTIZ, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES SPECIALIST.

AND MYSELF, JENNIFER MARTINEZ, ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT TO CHAIR.

A QUORUM IS PRESENT.

THANK YOU.

UH, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO PROVIDES TRANSLATION SERVICES FOR EVERY MEETING THAT THE CITY HAS.

IF WE COULD, LET'S HAVE THE TRANSLATION OF THAT STATEMENT OR OF THE AVAILABILITY OF SERVICE.

GOOD MORNING.

SPANISH TRANSLATION SERVICES ARE AVAILABLE DURING THIS MEETING.

THE MEETING IS BEING RECORDED IN SPANISH.

TRANSLATION SERVICES ARE AVAILABLE FOR THOSE THAT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

A QUORUM IS PRESENT.

PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONE OR ANY DEVICE THAT MAY DISRUPT THE PUBLIC HEARING.

NO PERSON SHALL DELAY OR DISRUPT THE PROCEEDINGS OR DISOBEY THE ORDER OF THE CHAIR.

IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON A CASE, YOU'LL BE ALLOWED THREE MINUTES.

HOWEVER, IN THE OWNER OR OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE WILL HAVE UNLIMITED TIME.

PLEASE KEEP ALL INFORMATION PERTINENT AND RELATIVE TO THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION AND THE CODE VIOLATION AS ADVISED PRIOR TO THIS PUBLIC HEARING, THE CITY WILL PROVIDE TRANSLATION SERVICES FOR ANYONE NEEDING ASSISTANCE.

IT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU HAVE MADE ARRANGEMENTS AS ADVISED IN YOUR NOTICE OF HEARING.

OUR EXPECTATION IS THAT YOU SUBMITTED THE REQUIRED DOCUMENTS PRIOR TO THIS PUBLIC HEARING.

YOUR RESPONSIBILITY AS A PROPERTY OWNER OR LIEN HOLDER OF A DILAPIDATED CASE.

A STRUCTURE CASE IS TO DEMONSTRATE THE FOLLOWING.

NUMBER ONE, PROVIDE THE REQUIRED DOCUMENTS.

DISCUSS YOUR DETAILED SCOPE OF WORK WITH A COST FOR EACH ITEM OUTLINED IN ORDER TO BRING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE TO THE SATISFACTION OF A CODE OFFICER.

NUMBER TWO, TO SUBMIT THE REQUIRED PROOF OF FINANCIAL ABILITY TO PAY FOR PROPOSED WORK, DISCUSS THE FEASIBILITY OF REPAIRS DEPENDED UPON THE MONIES AT HAND.

AND NUMBER THREE, REQUEST THE AMOUNT OF TIME NEEDED TO COMPLETE THE WORK.

ALL ABATEMENTS ORDERED BY THE BOARD SHALL BE ENFORCED.

ALL WORK PROPOSED MUST BE DONE WITHIN CODE REGULATIONS WITH REQUIRED PERMITS PRIOR TO COMMENCEMENT OF WORK.

YOU MAY OBTAIN ALL PERMITS FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES LOCATED IN THIS BUILDING AT 1901 SOUTH ALAMO STREET, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 0 4 IF IN DOUBT AS TO THE PROCESS DURING THIS TIME, PLEASE CONTACT A CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.

ANY OWNER OR LIEN HOLDER DISSATISFIED WITH THE ORDER OF THIS BOARD MAY FILE AN APPEAL IN CIVIL DISTRICT COURT WITHIN 30 DAYS AFTER THE DATE THAT THE ORDER IS MAILED.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS ORDER, PLEASE CONTACT THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER OR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES STAFF MEMBER BY PHONE.

(210) 207-5422.

PLEASE NOTE THAT IT IS UNLAWFUL FOR ANY PERSON PRESENT TO SOLICIT OR PEDAL SERVICES REGARDING ANY PROPERTY UNDER CONSIDERATION BY THIS BOARD DURING THE COURSE OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING.

AS PER CITY CODE SECTION 16 DASH 2 36.

THANK YOU.

LET'S HAVE IF

[ Approval of Minutes  ]

WE COULD, UH, THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES WE HAVE RECEIVED THOSE MINUTES IN DRAFT FORM CHAIR WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THE MINUTES.

MR. CHAIR, THIS IS FRED ANDES.

MR. ANDES, I MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF MARCH 14TH, 2024.

MR. ANDES MOTION IS TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF MARCH 14TH, 2024.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? THIS IS THOMAS SI SECOND.

AND WE HAVE TWO SECONDS.

THANK BOTH OF YOU.

UH, AND THOMAS, SINCE I HEARD YOU A LITTLE BIT LOUDER, WE'LL GO WITH THOMAS A SECOND.

UH, DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION? NO DISCUSSION.

ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED NAY.

GO ABSTAIN.

WE HAVE AN ABSTAIN.

YEAH, SHE HAS.

DORA HAS TO ABSTAIN BECAUSE SHE'S

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NEW FOR US.

I'M ABS AND, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

AND GEORGE, THANK YOU FOR BEING ON THIS PANEL.

WE APPRECIATE ALSO, AND I ABSTAINED, I WASN'T HERE IN THE MEETING AND YOU'RE ABSTAIN 'CAUSE YOU WEREN'T HERE IN THE MEETING.

SO WE HAVE, UH, TWO ABSTENTIONS FOR THE RECORD.

UH, THE MOTION CARRIES AND IF WE COULD, LET'S HAVE, UH, STAFF

[ Briefing and Possible Action on the following items  ]

REPORT.

THANK YOU, WHICH IS NEVER, IT'S NOT ON THERE.

OKAY.

.

GOOD MORNING BOARD MEMBERS.

GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS JENNY RAMIREZ, CODE ENFORCEMENT MANAGER WITH THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS TO READ INTO THE RECORD IF I MAY PROCEED, SIR.

THANK YOU.

FIRST ITEM, EXCUSE ME.

WE WILL BE A POLLING AGENDA.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR, UH, LISTED AS A DP PROPERTY 37 35 SABRE IN COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO.

UH, THIS PROPERTY HAS NEW OWNERSHIP.

UH, WE WERE RECENTLY MADE AWARE OF THAT.

UH, WE WERE ALSO MADE AWARE THAT THE OWNERS DID PULL PERMITS AND HAVE BEGUN ACTIVELY WORKING ON THE PROPERTY.

THEY HAVE PRESENTED THE, UM, THE OFFICER WITH A PRETTY SET PLAN.

SO WE WILL BE MONITORING IT FOR THE NEXT 60 DAYS TO MAKE SURE THEY, THEY FOLLOW THROUGH WITH A PLAN, THEY FOLLOW THROUGH WITH INSPECTIONS.

IF NOT, WE WILL THEN PROCEED TO BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD.

OKAY.

GOOD.

NEXT ITEM WE'LL BE READING TO THE RECORD IS AN EMERGENCY DEMOLITION THAT OCCURRED AT EIGHT 16 NORTHWEST 20TH STREET IN COUNCIL DISTRICT FIVE.

THE STRUCTURE WAS PAR, I'M SORRY, WAS DEMOLISHED AS AN EMERGENCY ON MARCH 22ND, 2024 DUE TO A FIRE WHICH OCCURRED ON MARCH 1ST, 2024.

PURSUANT TO CHAPTER SIX DASH 1 75, NO FURTHER ACTION IS NEEDED BY THE BOARD AT THIS TIME.

THERE ARE BEFORE AND AFTER PHOTOS OF THAT PROPERTY.

THAT DOES COMPLETE MY REPORT THIS MORNING.

UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF MS. RAMIREZ? THERE ARE NONE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UH, ON THE AGENDA, WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ON THIS.

WE DO HAVE COMMENTS ON THE SPECIFIC PROPERTY.

SO WE MOVE DIRECTLY INTO OUR FIRST PROPERTY, AND THAT'S GONNA BE 7 21.

UH, WHO HU AVENUE.

GOOD MORNING BOARD.

GOOD MORNING.

FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS CRYSTAL TOWN, DANGEROUS PREMISE OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

THE STRUCTURE BEING PRESENTED TODAY IS LOCATED AT 7 2 1 EAST SATCH AVENUE WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR DEMOLITION IN ACCORDANCE WITH CITY CODE ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER SIX.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME 7 2 1 EAST SATCH AVENUE IS BEING PRESENTED BEFORE THE BOARD.

PLEASE NOTE ON JUNE 23RD, 2023, A DANGEROUS ASSESSMENT RESPONSE TEAM INSPECTION WAS CONDUCTED.

THE INSPECTION IS A COLLABORATED INSPECTION WITH A VARIETY OF CITY DEPARTMENTS THAT INCLUDED THE SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION IS NCB 6 0 7 7 BLOCK ONE, LOT SEVEN LOCATED IN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT ONE.

THE OWNER ON RECORD IS OWNER NUMBER ONE, WILSON DURDA AND OPHELIA PEREZ AND JANE TOEY WITH A MAILING ADDRESS OF 2 3 1 1 8 MELTON STREET, WESTLAND, MICHIGAN 4 8 1 8 6.

OWNER NUMBER TWO, DEOS EDWARD MOORE, ELIZABETH AND CONNO ELAINE DEOS WITH A MAILING ADDRESS OF 4 1 7 1 2 WAYSIDE DRIVE, CANTON, MICHIGAN 4 8 1 8 7.

ONE OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS, ELAINE CONNO AND EDWARD CONNO, HER HUSBAND AND COUNSEL ARE PRESENT TODAY.

SAN ANTONIO.

POLICE OFFICER HERNANDEZ IS ALSO HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE THE PROPERTY.

DOES THE BOARD WISH TO CONTINUE? YES, PLEASE.

THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION HAS CONFIRMED ON NOVEMBER 1ST, 2023.

THE PROPERTY IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR HISTORIC DESIGNATION.

THE FIRST INSPECTION REGARDING 7 2 1 EAST ATCH AVENUE WAS CONDUCTED ON JUNE 22ND, 2020 THIRD.

THE ORIGINAL NOTICE WAS MAILED ON DECEMBER 21ST, 2023, AND THE CERTIFIED RECEIPT HAS NOT BEEN RETURNED ON MARCH 28TH, 2024.

THE NOTICE FOR THE BSB HEARING WAS POSTED AT 7 2 1 EAST SATCH AVENUE ON MARCH 27TH, 2024.

THE NOTICE FOR THE BSB HEARING WAS MAILED TO OWNER NUMBER

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ONE, DODO WILSON AND OPHELIA PEREZ, WI AND JANE TOE OWNER NUMBER TWO, DE HOYOS EDWARD MOORE, ELIZABETH AND CONNO ELAINE DEOS.

THE CERTIFIED RECEIPT HAS NOT BEEN RETURNED ON MARCH 28TH, 2024.

AN ADMINISTRATIVE WARRANT WAS EXECUTED TO OBTAIN PHOTOS OF THE STRUCTURE TO PRESENT BEFORE BSB AND TO ABATE THE PROPERTY.

THE OCCUPANT WOULD NOT ALLOW ACCESS INSIDE THE PROPERTY AND THERE WAS UNKNOWN INDIVIDUAL INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE INSIDE THE STRUCTURE AT THE TIME.

SO WE WERE ONLY ABLE TO ABATE THE PROPERTY.

BUT UPDATED PHOTOS WERE NOT ABLE TO BE OBTAINED.

NO SCOPE OF WORK OR FINANCIAL PROOF OR LETTER OF CREDIT OR ENGINEER'S REPORT HAS BEEN PROVIDED.

NO PERMITS HAVE BEEN OBTAINED FOR THE PROPERTY.

SO THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION THAT WAS TAKEN ON MARCH 28TH.

THE ROOF SYSTEM IS WORN AND THERE IS ALUMINUM TAPE PLACED THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE ROOF SYSTEM TO COVER DEFICIENCIES.

THIS IS THE RIGHT ELEVATION OF THE STRUCTURE.

THE WOOD PLANK SIDING LAPSE WEATHER PROTECTION, AND THE FOUNDATION SKIRTING IS MISSING.

THE OVERHANG IS ALSO ROTTED.

HERE'S A PHOTO TO SHOW THE FOUNDATION HAS HAD SOME UPDATES TO IT.

THERE IS SOME CEMENT POSTS NOW.

THE ORIGINAL HOUSE WAS BUILT, UM, WITHOUT CEMENT POSTS AND THERE IS NO PERMIT OBTAINED.

THIS IS ANOTHER PORTION OF THAT RIGHT ELEVATION TOWARDS THE REAR.

THE WOOD PLANK SIDING, AGAIN, LAPSED WEATHER PROTECTION AND IS ROTTED.

AND THERE'S MORE ALUMINUM TAPE PLACED ON THE ROOF SYSTEM.

THIS IS THE LEFT ELEVATION OF THE STRUCTURE.

IT IS EXTREMELY CLOSE TO THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY.

SO THIS WAS THE PHOTOS PRIOR TO THE ABATEMENT.

THERE WAS A LARGE AMOUNT OF TRASH AND DEBRIS THROUGHOUT THE PROPERTY, A LARGE AMOUNT OF BIKE PARTS AND OTHER TRASH AND DEBRIS WITHOUT OR THROUGHOUT THE PROPERTY.

AND THIS WAS THE REAR PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.

AGAIN, LARGE AMOUNT OF TRASH.

SO THIS IS GOING INTO THE FRONT OF THE, THE FRONT DOOR.

UM, THIS WAS ON JUNE 23RD.

ALL THE REST OF THE PHOTOS THAT YOU'LL SEE ARE FROM JUNE 23RD.

DUE TO THE FACT THAT I COULD NOT GET INSIDE ON MARCH 28TH, UM, THE FLOOR COVERING IS MISSING AND IS CAUSING A TRIP HAZARD.

AS YOU CAN SEE WALKING THROUGH THAT FRONT DOOR.

THIS IS A BEDROOM GOING TO THE RIGHT, A LARGE AMOUNT OF ITEMS, UH, STORED IN THE ROOM.

SO UNFORTUNATELY, IF THERE WAS A FIRE, UM, THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO GET OUT AND FIRST RESPONDERS WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO GET IN.

THERE IS A WATER DAMAGE TO THE SHEET ROCK.

THIS IS ANOTHER BEDROOM AND THIS IS ABOVE THE BED.

AGAIN, A LARGE AMOUNT OF WATER DAMAGE SHEET ROCK HAS FALLEN AND IT HAS BEEN REPLACED WITH PLYWOOD.

THIS IS THE KITCHEN AREA.

THE FLOOR COVERING IS UNEVEN.

IT DOES CAUSE A TRIPPING HAZARD.

AND THERE ARE A LARGE AMOUNT OF ITEMS JUST STORED WITH THROUGHOUT AND THE FLOOR IS UNLEVEL.

SO THIS IS AN EXTENSION CORD BEING PLUGGED INTO, UM, THE BACK WALL OF THE KITCHEN AND IT RUNS INTO THE BATHROOM AREA.

SO THIS IS THE BATHROOM AREA.

IT IS A VERY SMALL ROOM, UH, NOT A LOT OF ROOM TO MOVE AROUND.

AND THE EXTENSION CORD IS BEING RUN, WHICH WILL BE IN THE NEXT PHOTO.

WELL, EXCUSE ME, THERE'S WATER DAMAGE ON THE SHEET ROCK.

AND THEN THE NEXT PHOTO, YOU SHOULD SEE THE EXTENSION CORD.

SO THEY DO HAVE THE POWER CORD NAILED TO THE WALL.

SO THE CORD RUNS IN BETWEEN THE DOOR AND THE WALL.

AND THEN THEY HAVE MULTIPLE THINGS PLUGGED IN AND IT RUNS ACROSS THE CEILING.

AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER POWER CORD THAT THEY WRAPPED IN A PLASTIC BAG TO KEEP IT FROM GETTING WET.

SO THIS IS THE BACK PORCH AREA.

UH, THERE IS NO FLOOR COVERING IN THIS PORTION, AND THERE'S A LARGE AMOUNT OF ITEMS AGAIN, AND IT, THE FLOOR IS ON LEVEL IN THIS AREA AS WELL.

AND THERE ARE MORE EXTENSION CORDS BEING RUN THROUGHOUT THE HOUSE.

AND THAT EXPOSED WIRE WAS HOT ON THE DAY OF THE DART AND THERE WAS NO HOT WATER.

ALSO ON THE DAY OF THE DART, THE STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 7 2 1 EAST SATCH AVENUE IS IN VIOLATION

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OF CITY CODE ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER 6, 1 56 SUBSECTIONS 1, 2, 8, 11, 12, AND 15, WHICH ANY BUILDING OR STRUCTURE, WHICH HAS ANY OR ALL OF THE CONDITIONS OR DEFECTS HERE AND AFTER DESCRIBED, SHALL BE DEEMED TO BE A DANGEROUS BUILDING AND A HAZARD TO PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE.

PROVIDED THAT SUCH CONDITIONS OF DEFECTS OF DILAPIDATION, SUBSTANDARD, OR UNFITNESS FOR HUMAN HABITATION POSE A THREAT OR POTENTIAL THREAT TO LIFE, HEALTH, PROPERTY OR HUMAN SAFETY STAFF RECOMMENDS DEMOLITION THE PROPERTY TO BE VACATED AND UTILITIES TO BE DISCONNECTED.

THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION OF 7 2 1 EAST ATCH AVENUE.

THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE CODE OFFICER? THIS IS FRED ANDES.

YOU SAID ABATEMENT EARLIER.

YES.

HOW MANY TIMES HAS THIS PROPERLY BEEN ABATED OTHER THAN THE TIME IT WAS BEING ABATED AT THAT TIME? JUST MARCH 28TH.

NOT THE PRIOR.

NO.

PRIOR THERE, UH, THE AREA CODE OFFICER WAS HANDLING IT UNDER SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE, BUT THEY WERE ABATED.

THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME ABATEMENT HAS HAPPENED.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THE CITY CLAIMED THE PROPERTY.

PRIOR TO THE DART INSPECTION HAPPENING, THE AREA OFFICER WAS HANDLING ALL VIOLATIONS UNDER SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE AND ISSUING, UH, CITATIONS.

CITATIONS.

AND OKAY.

TODAY WE'RE TAKING CARE OF IT, SO CORRECT.

OKAY.

THANKS.

THIS IS THOMAS FRANKS.

SO THOMAS, HOLD JUST A SECOND.

UH, JOEL WAS READY TO GO.

SO LET HIM GO FIRST.

YEAH.

THIS IS JOEL SLA.

I WAS GONNA ASK YOU DIDN'T, YOU'RE NOT ASKING FOR SECURING THE PROPERTY, IS THAT BECAUSE THERE'S NOT AN ISSUE WITH VACANCY IN THIS HOME OR IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD? SO ONCE THE PROPERTY IS VACATED, WE WILL SECURE.

IF YOU CAN ADD THAT IN THE ORDERS, THAT WOULD BE GOOD AS WELL.

THANK YOU.

THOMAS, GO AHEAD WITH YOUR QUESTION, PLEASE.

I FORGOT IT .

SORRY, THEN I APOLOGIZE.

WAIT, MR. CHAIRMAN, I REMEMBER UNDER, UH, ROOFS, SO I'M LOOKING AT ROOF HOLES AND, UH, COLLAPSED AND LOOKING AT THE PICTURES, WHICH ARE YOU EXACTLY REFERRING TO? SO THE ENTIRE ROOF SYSTEM, UH, IS DILAPIDATED SHINGLES ARE MISSING, AND THEY DO HAVE THE ALUMINUM TAPE PLACED OVER IT.

PERFECT.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.

I APPRECIATE IT.

OFFICER JUAN HERNANDEZ, PLEASE.

OFFICER HERNANDEZ, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR STATION.

GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS JUAN HERNANDEZ.

I'M A POLICE OFFICER, UH, AT THE CENTRAL SUBSTATION.

CURRENTLY, UH, I'VE BEEN A POLICE OFFICER FOR, UH, GOING ON 13 YEARS NOW AND BEEN WITH THE SAFE UNIT THERE AT CENTRAL FOR, UH, FOR THREE YEARS.

AND YOUR TESTIMONY PLEASE.

SO, UH, I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON, UH, 7 2 1 EAST SATCH.

UH, WITHIN THE LAST TWO YEARS, WE'VE HAD 13 CALLS FOR SERVICE THERE.

UH, CALLS INCLUDE ABANDONED VEHICLES, UH, DISTURBANCES.

AND, UH, SOME OF THESE CALLS WERE ALSO, UH, CREATED BY THE SAFE UNIT, UH, WHICH WERE TO ASSIST CO CODE ENFORCEMENT, UH, DANGER PREMISE OFFICERS AND, UH, TO CONDUCT THE, THE DART WARRANTS AND THE RE-INSPECTIONS.

SO ON THE, ON JUNE, 2020 FIRST OF LAST YEAR, WE, UH, JUST LIKE, UH, THE, THE DP OFFICER MENTIONED, WE DID CONDUCT A DART WARRANT IN WHICH, UH, WE GOT TWO WANTED PERSONS OUT OF, OUT OF THE HOME, ONE OF WHICH WAS A WANTED FELON.

AND, UH, MOST RECENTLY ON, UH, MARCH 28TH OF THIS YEAR, WE, UH, ASSISTED WITH THAT REINSPECTION AS WELL.

AND, UH, ONE ARREST WAS, WAS MADE OUT OF THAT, OF THAT CALL.

UM, THERE ARE, UH, THAT'S THIS HOME, THIS ADDRESS IS, IS IN MY SERVICE AREA, UH, IN MY AREA THAT I, THAT I, UH, IN THAT I'M IN CHARGE OF AS A SAFE OFFICER.

UH, I'M AWARE OF VAGRANT THAT FREQUENT THAT LOCATION.

UM, ONE OF WHICH STATES THAT HE ASSISTS WITH MECHANIC WORK.

UM, DOESN'T MENTION WHAT HE GETS IN RETURN, BUT HE SAYS HE GOES THERE TO, TO HELP OUT HIS FRIENDS THAT LIVE THERE.

UM, LAST YEAR WE HAD ISSUES WITH, UH, EXTENSION CORDS THAT WERE, WERE RAN TO A VACANT PROPERTY NEXT DOOR.

UH, I TRIED CONTACTING THE, THE RESIDENCE THERE AT 7 2 1 SEVERAL TIMES TO, TO ADDRESS

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THAT ISSUE.

NEVER GOT AN AN ANSWER, NEVER GOT A RESPONSE.

UH, WHEN WE DID CONDUCT THE, THE DART WARRANT ON, ON JUNE 21ST, THEY DIDN'T ANSWER, UH, AS TO WHY THEY WERE RUNNING THAT EXTENSION CORD.

BUT, UH, THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF ISSUES THAT WE'VE HAD WITH THIS, WITH THIS ADDRESS.

THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF OFFICER HERNANDEZ? UH, MA, MS. CHAIR FRED ANDERSON.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

THANK YOU.

UM, ON THE 23RD WHEN YOU DID THE DART INSPECTION YEAH.

YOU ARE IN THE AREA ENOUGH TO KNOW, I'M NOT SURE WHAT TIME YOU GUYS DO THIS, BUT IT'S A, IS IT A TRAFFIC AREA FROM SCHOOL TO AND FROM IN THAT AREA, OR IS IT OTHER STREETS NEAR THIS? SO, UH, NORTH ST.

MARY'S, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO THE INTERSECTION OF NORTH ST.

MARY'S AND MUL AND EAST MULBERRY.

UM, AS FAR AS I'M AWARE, THERE ARE NO, UH, SCHOOL CROSSINGS OR SCHOOL ZONES IN THAT STRETCH.

UM, THIS ADDRESS IS WITHIN THE, THE RIVER ROAD NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO, UH, THERE ARE NO, NO, UH, SCHOOL ZONES WITHIN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE YOUR TESTIMONY.

UH, ELAINE KANO, YOU WERE FIRST TO SIGN IN.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK FIRST OR WOULD YOU LIKE FOR EDWARD TO SPEAK? WELL, I'LL GO AHEAD.

OKAY.

MR. KANO, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR HOME ADDRESS.

WELL, UH, 1 0 9 UPSON, U-P-S-O-N, EDWARD KANO.

SO I'M ELAINE'S HUSBAND AND, UH, I HAPPEN TO BE AN ATTORNEY.

AND SO, UM, BUT SHE, SHE, SHE RECEIVED A NOTICE OF THIS HEARING ON GOOD FRIDAY.

UH, IT LOOKS LIKE THE CITY'S HAD 10 MONTHS TO, UH, GET THEIR INFORMATION TOGETHER AND WHAT'S BEEN PRESENTED HERE.

SO, UM, SHE'S HAD, UH, SOME DIFFICULTY AT THE PROPERTY BECAUSE THE OCCUPANT IS HER BROTHER RIGHT NOW, AND THIS IS THE PERSON, SO SHE DOESN'T LIVE AT THE PROPERTY.

SO, UH, SHE HASN'T HAD A FAIR OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS WHATEVER'S BEEN PRESENTED TO TODAY.

THE, UH, SHE HAS MADE A RE A A, UM, WHAT DO YOU CALL, OH, AND BY THE WAY, I'M NOT AN OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.

I THINK SOMEBODY SAID THAT, UM, MENTIONED ME AS, AS BEING AN OWNER.

BUT, UH, WHAT HAPPENED IS ELAINE HAS A, UH, AN UNCLE, THIS IS HER, THIS IS HER, UM, HER GRANDPARENTS' PROPERTY.

AND IT WAS BUILT BACK IN 1936 OR SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE.

SO IT'S BEEN IN THE FAMILY.

UH, IT WAS, UH, DEEDED EVENTUALLY TO SIX OF THE SIBLINGS.

ONE OF INCLUDED HER DAD WHO PASSED AWAY ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.

AND THERE'S ONE SURVIVING SIBLING LEFT WHO'S, WHO'S QUITE ELDERLY.

AND HE CONVEYED, HE GIFTED HIS INTEREST TO MY WIFE.

AND SO SHE, SHE'S ONLY BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS THING FOR ABOUT A YEAR.

SINCE LAST YEAR.

YEAH.

FOR ABOUT A YEAR.

AND SO, AND, UH, SHE WAS NOT AWARE OF A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN TALKED ABOUT TODAY.

UH, BUT, UH, SHE, SHE, SHE GOT A CERTIFIED LETTER FOR TODAY'S, UH, UM, BOARD MEETING OR TRIBUNAL OR WHATEVER, UH, ON GOOD FRIDAY.

AND, UH, JUST HASN'T HAD A FAIR AMOUNT OF TIME TO RESPOND, TIME TO RESPOND.

UH, SHE DID MAKE AN OPEN RECORDS ACT REQUEST FOR WHATEVER EVIDENCE WAS GONNA BE PRESENTED TODAY.

UH, SHE, SHE TOLD ME THAT THAT CAME IN APPARENTLY YESTERDAY, BUT SHE WASN'T ABLE TO OPEN IT.

UH, SO, SO THAT WOULD BE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT SHE, THAT, THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST THING I'D WANNA SAY OFF THE BAT HERE IS TO SEE IF THIS CAN BE RESCHEDULED FOR A LATER TIME.

UM, AND, UM, AND THEN I GUESS IF I HAVE TO, BECAUSE SHE HASN'T HAD A CHANCE TO HAVE SOMEONE GO LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHAT SHE COULD DO ABOUT IT, IF SHE OR WHAT COULD BE DONE AND OR ADDRESS SOME OF THESE CONCERNS.

I DO, I DO WANNA SAY THAT IN TALKING TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER BEFORE THE HEARING, UH, THERE WAS A LOT OF, UH, DEBRIS AND STUFF THAT WAS SHOWN IN THE PHOTOGRAPHS HERE, BUT APPARENT APPARENTLY THAT WAS BEEN ABATED.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS UNDERSTOOD BY EVERYBODY HERE, BUT JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION.

SO, ANYTHING ELSE, SIR? WELL, I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF Y'ALL CAN RESCHEDULE THIS AND THEN IF NOT, I'D LIKE TO START ADDRESSING SOME OF THESE ISSUES.

UM, OKAY.

ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. KANO?

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UH, SIR BCAT JUST SENDS OUT TO ANYBODY WHO'S HAD, AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE, I DO BELIEVE YOU GET THAT IT'S LIKE THREE PAGES AND IT'S NOT JUST YOUR WIFE.

MM-HMM.

.

THERE'S PEOPLE THAT'S HAD IT IN THE PAST ALL THE WAY UP TO WHEN MM-HMM.

, LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHING.

UM, YOUR WIFE OWNS THE PROPERTY OUTRIGHT, OR IS THE BROTHER THAT'S LIVING THERE AND OTHERS HAVE PIECES OF IT? YEAH, IT'S, IT'S, OKAY, SO HERE'S THE DEAL.

UH, SO THE, THE, THE ORIGINAL OWNERS WERE MY WIFE'S GRANDPARENTS.

THEY HAD NINE, NINE CHILDREN.

ALRIGHT? BUT SO THE, THE GRANDFATHER DEEDED HIS SHARE TO HIS WIFE, OR, OR SHE ACQUIRED IT, UH, FROM HIM.

UH, THE, THE GRANDMOTHER DEEDED IT TO SIX OF THE NINE CHILDREN, ALL OF WHOM ARE DECEASED.

OKAY.

THAT'S HOW YOU GET THESE MICHIGAN ADDRESSES.

AND, UM, AND UH, AND, AND THEN, UH, SO THERE'S, THERE'S ONE SURVIVING CHILD LEFT WHO GIFTED HIS ONE SIXTH SHARE TO MY WIFE.

AND THAT WAS ABOUT A YEAR AGO.

SO I'M ASKING, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION.

UH, WELL, IN SOME CASES WHEN THEY DO THAT, THERE'S SEVERAL OTHER OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY THAT FAMILIES THAT HAVE TO DISCUSS WHAT'S GONNA BE DONE.

RIGHT.

RIGHT.

AND IF THEY ALL DON'T AGREE, THEN THEY CAN'T BE DONE.

SURE.

SO SHE'S FULL CUS OR FULL OWNER OF IT PRETTY MUCH.

WELL, SHE, SHE, SHE, SHE TECHNICALLY, SHE'S LIKE A 20% OWNER.

SHE ONLY OWNS A, A FRACTIONAL INTEREST AND SHE, SHE DOESN'T, SHE HASN'T HAD, UM, BEEN CONTACTED BY ANY OTHER FAMILY MEMBER, ANY OF THE OTHER OWNERS OR THEIR DESCENDANTS ABOUT KNOWING ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON HERE.

SO, AND THAT'S SOMETHING, THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT I THINK THAT SHE NEEDS TO, TO WORK ON, IS TO FIGURE OUT IF ANYBODY'S GONNA KICK IN ON THIS THING.

WELL, THAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING 'CAUSE IT'S, IT IS NOT A CLEAN DEED RIGHT NOW.

IT'S GOT ALL THESE OTHER PEOPLE ATTACHED.

THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S DEFINITELY CLOUDS ON THE TITLES TO THE PROPERTY.

THAT'S YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING BECAUSE ALL THAT HAS EVERYBODY ATTACHED TO IT HAS TO AGREE TO WHATEVER WE TO, TO GET SOMETHING DONE.

YEAH.

OR SHE'S GONNA HAVE TO, OR, OR, OR SHE'S GONNA HAVE TO, UH, DECIDE, YOU KNOW, WHETHER SHE'S GONNA DO IT ALL HERSELF AND, AND BE, AND, AND DO IT THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, OR WHAT SHE'S GONNA DO.

SO IT, IT'S, IT'S A MESS, YOU KNOW? SO, BUT, BUT, BUT, BUT THE, I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO RESCHEDULE THIS BECAUSE IT'S A MESS.

I'M ASKING YOU TO RESCHEDULE IT BECAUSE THERE JUST HASN'T BEEN ENOUGH TIME.

THE CITY'S HAD 10 MONTHS.

OKAY.

AND THEN WE HAVE ABOUT 10 DAYS, UH, NOT INCLUDING WEEKENDS.

OKAY.

TO, TO, TO DEAL WITH GETTING INFORMATION AND BEING ABLE, WHICH HAS BEEN REQUESTED.

I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT THEY TELL YOU, UH, UM, UH, HOW, HOW CAN WE GET YOUR EVIDENCE THAT YOU'RE GONNA PRESENT? THEY SAID, WELL, YOU GOTTA MAKE AN OPEN MEETING ZACH REQUEST, WHICH WAS MADE, UH, AS I'VE, I'VE ALREADY SAID THAT'S BEEN, UM, SENT, BUT IT CAN'T BE OPEN FOR WHATEVER REASON.

BUT, BUT HERE WE ARE.

BUT, UM, BUT THAT WE'D LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. KANO? ANYTHING ELSE, JOEL? YEAH, THIS IS, UH, JOEL SLA.

I'M JUST GONNA LOOK UP AHEAD.

SO WHAT IS THE PLAN THEN GOING FORWARD? IS, IS IT TO ACTUALLY COME BACK TO THIS HEARING AND PRESENT EVIDENCE THAT SUGGESTS THAT THE CODE VIOLATIONS WERE NOT, UH, ACTUAL VIOLATIONS? OR IS IT, YOU'RE, YOU'RE PLANNING ON TRYING TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE PROPERTY, TRYING TO, TO SECURE THE OWNERSHIP AND GET THE FUNDING TO ACTUALLY DO ALL THE REPAIRS.

WHAT IS IT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IN THE FUTURE? WELL, UH, FIRST OF ALL, UH, WE NEED A DUE PROCESS AND FAIR NOTICE OF WHATEVER EVIDENCE BEEN PRESENTED.

A LOT OF THE EVIDENCE THAT WAS BEEN SET FOR TODAY IS VERY GENERAL.

UH, IT'S BEEN SUMMARY.

FOR EXAMPLE, THIS OFFICER SAYS THAT HE GOT, HE WENT WITH SOME KIND OF A WARRANT AND THERE WAS SOMEONE WITH A, UH, WHO HAD A FELONY RECORD THERE.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF HE WAS, WAS THERE FOR, WAS AN ARREST WARRANT OR WHAT KIND OF WARRANT HE HAD.

THAT'S KIND OF SMALL POTATOES COMPARED TO THE PROBLEMS WITH THE PROPERTY.

I CAN, WE, CAN, WE, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE, I MEAN, SHE'S NOT IN DENIAL ABOUT WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

I DO THINK A LOT OF WHAT YOU SAW THERE HAS BEEN TAKEN CARE OF, BUT SHE NEEDS TO ASCERTAIN WHAT THESE COMPLAINTS ARE.

SHE WANTS TO ASSESS HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA COST BECAUSE I'VE ALREADY SAID THERE'S A NUMBER OF OTHER OWNERS AND YOU KNOW, MY WIFE, ME, SHE MAY BE WILLING TO JUST TAKE CARE OF IT ON HER OWN, BUT SHE HAS TO KNOW WHAT THE EXTENT OF THE PROBLEM IS AND HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA COST.

AND IF IT'S REASONABLE, UH, SHE, SHE'LL SHE'LL PROBABLY TAKE STEPS TO TRY TO, TO TO, UM, UH, TO REMEDIATE THOSE ISSUES DEPENDING HOW SERIOUS THEY ARE.

UH, I DIDN'T HEAR ANY ISSUES

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ABOUT, I MEAN, I'VE HEARD SOME GENERAL, UH, DISCUSSION ABOUT STRUCTURAL PROBLEMS, BUT I DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE ANY ENGINEER REPORTS.

WE, IF THEY'RE THE THINGS THAT, THAT I SEE HERE, UM, UH, WE'D HAVE TO VERIFY, FOR EXAMPLE, HE, HE SAYS THAT THERE'S SOME ALUMINUM TAPE OR THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'D HAVE TO GET PEOPLE TO INSPECT AND SAY WHAT IT'S GONNA COST AND THAT SHE'S GOTTA MAKE THAT DECISION.

SO I'M NOT TRYING TO NOT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

I THINK IF SHE HAD HER WAY, IF THERE'S A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF REPAIRS THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, SHE'D LIKE TO, SHE'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO, UM, TAKE CARE OF THAT BECAUSE SHE'S INTERESTED IN THE FAMILY, UH, HERITAGE PART.

I MEAN, I'M SURE THAT WAS A REASON PROBAB, UH, ONE REASON WHY HER UNCLE GAVE HER HIS INTEREST.

THAT'S THE LAST SURVIVING MEMBER.

'CAUSE SHE'S THE ONLY ONE WHO CARES.

ALRIGHT? AND, AND, UH, AND, AND SHE HASN'T HEARD FROM ANY OF HER OTHER RELATIVES, BUT SHE MIGHT AND AND THEY MAY BE WILLING TO PUR UH, TO CONTRIBUTE IN SOME WAY, BUT WHAT THAT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T REALLY EXPECT THAT, YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S JUST BASED UPON WHAT WE HAVE HERE, SIR.

YEAH.

YEAH.

MM-HMM.

, I'M LOOKING AT THAT PROPERTY AND, AND IT IS A DANGEROUS PROPERTY.

IT, IT'S REALLY IS UNSAFE FOR ANYONE TO BE INSIDE THAT IS THERE CURRENTLY STILL SOMEONE OCCUPYING THE RESIDENCE? YES.

THIS IS HER BROTHER.

SO, SO, SO, AND, UM, SO THIS, SO SHE, UH, THAT'S THE OTHER, UH, DYNAMIC OF THIS, UM, OF THIS, THESE ISSUES IS THAT, UM, LET'S, YOU KNOW, SHE HAS TO BE ABLE TO GET ACCESS AND, AND WE'LL HAVE TO SEE HOW THAT WORKS OUT WITH HIM BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SHE CAN, UM, SAY THAT SHE WANTS TO DO A THROUGH C UH, TO TRY TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEMS. BUT, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, HE, HE HAS TO COOPERATE AS WELL.

AND SO WE'LL HAVE TO SEE HOW THAT GOES.

YEAH.

I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THE, OH YEAH, THERE'S AN, AN URGENCY HERE FOR LIFE SAFETY AND IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE WE'RE TAKING ANY CONCRETE STEPS TO ADDRESS THAT.

WELL, OKAY.

WELL, THAT'S, UH, WELL, WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FAIRLY ADDRESS THIS LIFE SAFETY ISSUE OKAY.

THAT I'VE ALREADY TRIED TO, UM, PERSUADE Y'ALL TO UNDERSTAND, UH, THAT, UH, THAT, UH, THAT, THAT THERE JUST HAPPILY HASN'T BEEN ENOUGH TIME.

I MEAN, THIS ISN'T LIKE A BURNT DOWN STRUCTURE.

I KNOW HOW THE, THE URGENCY IS WITH THAT.

UM, THE, THE PROPERTY IS BEING OCCUPIED, AND I DON'T EVEN WANNA ARGUE OVER WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

I'M JUST SAYING THIS IS JUST A MATTER OF FAIRNESS.

THANK YOU, SIR.

SIR, LET ME ASK YOU ONE MORE QUESTION.

UM, IT WASN'T MENTIONED, BUT YOU WENT THROUGH ALL OF THAT, WHAT SHE NEEDS TO DO TO GO THROUGH THE EVIDENCE AND STUFF LIKE THAT AND REDO EVERYTHING, GET THE BIDS AND ALL THAT.

SURE.

WHAT TIME LIMIT WERE YOU LOOKING AT THAT WINDOW? OH, I THINK, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK WHAT TWO TO THREE WEEKS IS A FAIR, AT LEAST A FEW DAYS AT MINIMUM.

I MEAN, I NEED TO GET, YOU KNOW, CONTRACTORS, I NEED TO, MA'AM, EXCUSE ME, I'M GONNA, THIS IS LEGAL.

IF, IF SHE COULD COME UP TO MY YEAH, SHE, SHE HAS TO MAKE ARRANGEMENTS FOR CONTRACTORS, UH, TO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA PROBABLY TAKE, YOU KNOW, UM, TWO TO THREE WEEKS, I'M GUESSING AT THE, AT THE FASTEST RATE THAT YOU CAN GET PEOPLE TO GO OUT THERE.

ONE MOMENT, SIR, SINCE SHE MENTIONED SOMETHING, SHE NEEDS TO COME TO THE MIC, IDENTIFY HERSELF, ADDRESS, AND THEN, OH, IT'S OKAY.

WELL, I THINK THAT, THAT, WELL, NO, SHE, SHE HAS TO COME UP AND IDENTIFY AND THEN, AND THEN YOU CAN, BECAUSE SHE, SHE SAID SOMETHING FROM THE BACK AND THIS IS BEING TAPED.

OKAY.

I'M SORRY.

I APOLOGIZE.

MY NAME IS ELAINE CONNO AND I LIVE AT 1 0 9 UPSON, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 1 2.

SO AS MY HUSBAND STATED, MY UNCLE CONVEYED HIS SHARE OF THE PROPERTY TO ME LAST APRIL, AND I JUST RECEIVED NOTICE OF THIS ON MARCH 27TH.

SO I WAS NOT AWARE OF ALL THESE PROBLEMS THAT WERE HAVING THAT HAPPENING AT THE PROPERTY.

SO BECAUSE I'VE ONLY HAVE 10 DAYS NOTICE, I DON'T HAVE ADEQUATE NOTICE TO, YOU KNOW, OBTAIN SOME CONTRACTORS, WHICH I WOULD LIKE TO DO.

THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN IN MY FAMILY FOR ABOUT 80 YEARS.

ALL OF MY FATHER, MY FATHER-IN-LAW, HIS SIBLINGS WERE BORN IN THAT FRONT ROOM OF THAT, UH, HOUSE.

AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO THE FAMILY THAT IT STAYS IN THE FAMILY.

SO IDEALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO GET THESE REPAIRS MADE IF IT'S REALISTIC, AND I'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, AS OPPOSED TO HAVING THE HOUSE DEMOLISHED, IF THESE REPAIRS ARE SO AS BAD AS, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE CLAIMS THEY ARE, THEN YOU KNOW, I'LL, YOU KNOW, WE'LL, YOU KNOW, DEAL WITH THAT.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO AT LEAST HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TRY TO GET ESTIMATES AND TRY TO GET THAT HOUSE REPAIRED.

AND I JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH NOTICE.

THAT HOUSE WAS DEED TO ME LAST APRIL.

MY ADDRESS IS ON MY CURRENT ADDRESS WHERE I CAN BE CONTACTED IS ON THAT DEED.

AND I WAS NOT NOTIFIED LAST JULY ABOUT ALL THESE PROBLEMS THAT WERE TAKING PLACE.

THIS IS THE FIRST NOTICE.

THEY'VE MANAGED TO GET MY NOTICE

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TO SEND ME ABOUT A DEMOLITION, BUT THEY DIDN'T SEND ME NOTICE ABOUT ALL THESE OTHER PROBLEMS. AND I WAS TOLD THAT APPARENTLY IT HAS TO BE CORRECTED WITH A BEARER COUNTY APPRAISAL.

THAT'LL BE FIXED NOW.

BUT RIGHT NOW, I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT'S SPEAKING ON THIS PROPERTY.

ALL THE OTHER PEOPLE ARE DECEASED.

THE PROBATE ISSUES WITH THIS PROPERTY IS GONNA BE HORRENDOUS.

AND I'M THE ONLY PERSON THAT'S GONNA BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES IN FIXING THIS HOUSE.

SO I'M JUST WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.

AND IF IT MEANS IT BEING DEMOLISHED, THEN IT MEANS IT BEING DEMOLISHED.

BUT I AT LEAST LIKE TO HAVE THE CHANCE TO TRY TO LOOK AT IT.

MA'AM, YOU DIDN'T GET A NOTICE BECAUSE SOMEBODY, YOUR BROTHER WAS AT THE ADDRESS AND WHEN THEY DELIVERED IT, HE ACCEPTED IT.

RIGHT.

SO THE ONLY REASON YOU GOT THE OTHER ONE IS BECAUSE IT BE, UH, BEARCAT.

SO ALL OF THAT OTHER STUFF IS, WE ARE HERE FOR THE HOUSE.

YOU ANSWERED THE QUESTION.

SO I ONLY NEEDED TO BRING YOU UP BECAUSE YOU SAID SOMETHING AND IT'S BEING TAPED AND SO RIGHT.

AND I I DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT YOUR HUSBAND OFF.

OKAY, NO PROBLEM.

THANK YOU.

I DON'T WANT IT TO BE A DANGER TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I DON'T WANT IT TO BE, UM, A PROBLEM TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I WANT IT TO BE, IF IT CAN BE A NICE HOME AND, YOU KNOW, A SAFE HOME, THEN OF COURSE I'D WANT IT TO CONTINUE TO EXIST BECAUSE IT'S BEEN IN THE FAMILY.

KAYLA, YOU HAD A QUESTION? DID YOU WANT TO ADDRESS MR. KANO OR MS. KANO? UH, I, I CAN ADDRESS MS. KANO.

OKAY.

GO AHEAD AND ASK YOUR QUESTION.

UH, SO I I I'M SORRY THAT YOU JUST NOW GETTING NOTICED, BUT YOU, YOU SAID YOU RECEIVED, UH, YOU, YOU INHERITED IT LAST APRIL? YES, MA'AM.

SO IT'S BEEN A YEAR? YES, MA'AM.

ON PROPERTY A YEAR? MM-HMM.

, DID YOU NEVER THINK TO GO OVER AND CHECK IT OUT OR TRY TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON? WELL, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THE ISSUES WERE AS BAD AS THEY WERE, SO, NO.

OKAY.

DO YOU HAVE FUNDS AVAILABLE TO MAKE REPAIRS? YES.

MA, PROPER REPAIRS WITH PERMITS? YES, MA'AM.

I'M EMPLOYED.

YES.

DID YOU BRING IN YOUR BANK STATEMENTS OR PROOF OR ANYTHING? I DIDN'T BRING ANYTHING BECAUSE I HAVEN'T HAD MUCH NOTICE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THESE REPAIRS ARE.

I'M GONNA, I HAVE TO GET MULTIPLE QUOTES FROM MULTIPLE PEOPLE TO FIND OUT THE EXTENT OF THESE REPAIRS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THESE REPAIRS ARE GONNA BE 10,000, 20,000, 30,000.

SO YOUR QUESTION IS VERY UNFAIR.

HOW AM I GONNA SHOW YOU PROOF OF HOW $30,000 IF, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THOSE REPAIRS ARE $30,000.

I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FIND OUT WHAT THE DAMAGES ARE, SO I'M NOT GONNA SHARE MY FINANCES WITH YOU.

NO, I HAVE A QUESTION THAT'S VERY SIMILAR TO THAT QUESTION.

UH, FIRST OF ALL, I'M AN ENGINEER, SO THAT MIGHT HELP YOU AT LEAST UNDERSTAND WHY I'M ASKING THE QUESTION.

MM-HMM, , ARE YOU READY TO SPEND AS MUCH AS $50,000 ON THE PROPERTY? IF NEED ME, YES.

BUT I NEED TO FIND OUT WHAT THE, I REALLY NEED TO KNOW THE EXTENT.

MAYBE THOSE REPAIRS ARE NOT EVEN WORTHY MAKING.

MAYBE THE HOUSE DOES NEED TO BE DEMOLISHED.

MAYBE IT NEEDS TO HAVE A NEW HOUSE IN THAT PROPERTY, BUT I WON'T KNOW.

AND MAYBE WE JUST PUT A NEW HOUSE ALL TOGETHER, BUT I DON'T KNOW UNTIL I AT LEAST TRY TO CHECK IT OUT.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MS. KANO? YES.

THIS IS THOMAS FRANKS.

GO AHEAD.

SO YOUR BROTHER, WE'RE, GO BACK TO WHY Y'ALL COULDN'T GET INTO THE PROPERTY.

UM, SO IS YOUR BROTHER, I'M ASSUMING PART OWNER, UM, IN THIS, WELL, THERE'S PROBABLY ABOUT 23 PEOPLE THAT MIGHT HAVE AN INTEREST IN THIS PROPERTY.

THIS MATTER IS, THERE'S SIX, WELL, FIVE ESTATES AND ME.

SO ALL THOSE ESTATES HAVE TO BE HANDLED, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'LL BE A MATTER OF, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD TAKE YEARS TO HANDLE.

RIGHT? THE ONLY ACTING PERSON THAT'S GONNA PROB DEAL WITH THIS PROPERTY IS GONNA BE MYSELF.

AND IF WE CAN MANAGE TO GET EVERYONE'S PROBATE ISSUES INTACT, THEN THERE CAN BE A SOLE OWNER, OR THE PROPERTY CAN BE SOLD, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WOULD DEFINITELY BE THE IDEAL THING TO DO.

BUT THAT'S JUST GONNA, AND THESE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BECOME DECEASED IS JUST WITHIN, YOU KNOW, YEARS.

SO THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT HAS TO BE DEALT WITH.

AND YES, MY BROTHER IS NOT ON THE DEED, BUT LEGALLY IS A, HAS AN INTEREST IN THE PROPERTY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MM-HMM, , GO AHEAD.

WELL, I GUESS IT'S A LEGAL QUESTION.

IF THERE'S MULTIPLE PEOPLE ON THE PROPERTY, HOW CAN WE GIVE FEASIBLE TIME IF ALL THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED FIRST, UH, BOARD, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A LEGAL QUESTION THAT THAT'S, THAT'S MORE OF A, NO, THAT'S GONNA BE MORE OF A QUESTION FOR, FOR THIS BOARD TO MAKE THE DETERMINATION BASED ON TESTIMONY THAT'S BEEN PROVIDED.

UM, MS. CONNO STATES THAT SHE'S HAD THE PROPERTY, UM, IT'S BEEN DEEDED TO HER SINCE APRIL.

UM, BUT SHE ALSO ADMITS THAT SHE HASN'T GONE TO THE PROPERTY.

UM, I, I, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN

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ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR YOU.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THIS BOARD IS JUST GONNA KIND OF HAVE TO FIGURE OUT IN MAKING ITS DETERMINATION.

UM, WITH THAT SAID, UH, MR. CHAIR, I, I HAVE A QUESTION.

UM, AND I DIDN'T KNOW, AND I'LL BE RESPECTFUL TO COUNSEL.

I DON'T KNOW IF COUNSEL WOULD LIKE ME TO ASK IT TO HIM OR, OR TO HIS WIFE.

UH, BUT MY QUESTION IS, UM, DID THE, UM, NOTICE OF BSB COME TO YOUR HOUSE OR, OR, OR WHAT ADDRESS DID IT COME TO, IF YOU CAN PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION? THIS CAME TO MY, THIS CAME TO MY ADDRESS WHERE I LIVE NOW.

1 0 1 0 9 UPSON.

OKAY.

AND SO, UM, WHEN YOU READ THAT, DID YOU, UM, UH, DID YOU ATTEND THE PRE BSB MEETING THAT IS SCHEDULED? THIS IS THE ONLY HEARING DATE THAT I, I'M AWARE OF.

OKAY.

AND THEN THERE WAS NO INFORMATION IN REGARDS TO A PRE BSB MEETING IN THERE? NO, SIR.

NOT THAT I SEE.

NOT IN THIS LETTER.

ALL I KNOW IS THIS DATE.

OKAY.

WHEN WAS THE PRE BSB DATE, MA'AM? I, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T DO THE PRE BSB MEETINGS.

OKAY.

UM, THEY'RE USUALLY IN THERE.

THAT'S WHY I'M, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THAT INFORMATION, ACCORDING TO WHAT YOU'RE TELLING US IS THERE COULD BE CLOSE TO, CLOSE TO 20 15, 20 PEOPLE THAT HAVE AN INTEREST IN THIS PROPERTY.

UM, ONCE THE PROPERTY WAS TO YOU, DID YOU MAKE ANY STEPS OR CH OR, OR CHANGE ANY INFORMATION IN THE BEXAR COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT? SO NOTICE COULD BE PROVIDED TO, UH, BE PROVIDED TO YOU? NO, SIR.

I WASN'T AWARE THAT THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE.

OKAY.

AND THEN LASTLY, UM, HOW MUCH TIME WOULD YOU NEED IF YOU, HOW MUCH TIME WOULD YOU NEED TO MAKE REPAIRS ON THE PROPERTY? OR IS IT FAIR TO SAY THAT YOU'RE JUST ASKING THIS BOARD FOR A RESET FOR YOU TO KIND OF DECIDE WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH THE PROPERTY? WELL, I CERTAINLY DON'T KNOW THE SCOPE OF THE DAMAGES, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE FOR THOSE DAMAGES.

UM, HOW MUCH TIME IT WOULD NEED TO RE MAKE THOSE REPAIRS.

UM, SO IF, WHAT DO YOUR QUESTION EXACTLY ARE YOU SAYING, BUT LET ME, LET, LET ME REPHRASE THE QUESTION.

OKAY.

AND I'LL ASK IT A DIFFERENT WAY AFTER YOU'VE RECEIVED A NOTICE OF THE PRE OF THIS BSB HEARING, RIGHT? MM-HMM, WHAT ATTEMPTS DID YOU MAKE TO GO TO THE PROPERTY AND DO ANY TYPE OF LOOK, SEE FOR YOURSELF OR, OR A CONTRACTOR? DID YOU GO TO THE PROPERTY AFTER YOU GOT, YOU GOT NOTICE OF THE HEARING? NO, I'VE TRIED TO REACH MY BROTHER SO THAT I CAN, UH, YOU KNOW, DEAL WITH THE, GO TO THE PROPERTY AND TAKE SOME CONTRACTORS AND I BASICALLY, I WAS STILL TRYING TO LINE UP SOME CONTRACTORS THAT I WOULD, YOU KNOW, TRUST TO DO THAT.

UM, BUT I REALLY DIDN'T HAVE MUCH NOTICE.

I'VE, I'VE, YOU KNOW, I WORKED FULL TIME AND I COMPLETELY UNDERSTANDABLE.

IT, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU WERE RECEIVED IT ON THE 27TH OF, OF, OF MARCH.

WELL, IT'S DATED.

WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M WANTING, I'M SORRY.

I'M SORRY.

IT, IT'S DATED THE 27TH, BUT I DIDN'T RECEIVE IT TILL GOOD FRIDAY THE NINTH.

I, I APOLOGIZE.

I DIDN'T MEAN TO MAKE IT SEEM LIKE YOU RECEIVED IT ON THE 27TH.

I GUESS WHAT I'M WONDERING IS ONCE YOU RECEIVED NOTICE, RIGHT, AT ANY POINT IN TIME DID YOU GO OVER TO THE PROPERTY? I HAVE NOT.

I'VE TRIED TO CONTACT MY BROTHER AND I'VE BEEN TRYING TO LINE UP SOME, UH, CONTRACTORS.

BUT AGAIN, I HAD, UM, I WANTED TO COME HERE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THIS HOUSE TO BE DEMOLISHED BECAUSE I WANT TO TAKE STEPS TO GET CONTRACTORS TO GET ESTIMATES TO FIND OUT THESE REPAIRS.

AND I SAW THE EXAMPLE OF WHAT IS NEEDS TO BE INTRODUCED, YOU KNOW, TO, YOU KNOW, THE DAMAGES AND THE ESTIMATES AND THE COST OF REPAIRS.

SO THAT INFORMATION YOU DID RECEIVE IN THE, IN THE, IN THE BSB PACKET.

RIGHT.

RIGHT.

SO YOU, YOU DID KNOW THAT THOSE ARE THOSE THINGS THAT THE BOARD WOULD BE ASKING FOR.

EXACTLY.

BUT I, AND THEN ONE MORE THING, WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU WENT TO THE PROPERTY? UM, I'M NOT SURE.

I HAVEN'T BEEN IN THE PROPERTY.

IT'S BEEN, HAVE YOU BEEN TO THE PROPERTY SINCE IT WAS DEEDED TO YOU LAST YEAR? UM, I DON'T KNOW.

I GUESS MAYBE.

I'M NOT SURE.

I MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

OKAY.

QUESTION FOR THE STAFF.

A SEGAL OWNER OF A MULTI OWNER PROPERTY CAN PURCHASE OR ACQUIRE PERMITS.

IS THAT A CORRECT STATEMENT? SIR, THIS IS, UH, JENNY RAMIREZ WITH, UH, CODE ENFORCEMENTS.

THAT IS A CORRECT STATEMENT.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF MR. OR MS. CANO? WHAT WAS YOURS? MY QUESTION WAS, A SINGLE OWNER OF A PRO, I MEAN SINGLE, UH, OWNER OF A PROPERTY WITH MULTIPLE OWNERS CAN PURCHASE PERMITS.

AND THE ANSWER WAS YES, THEY CAN.

UH, LET ME, UH, AS A FOLLOW UP ON THIS, IT, THERE'S A HOLD RIGHT NOW ON THE PROPERTY, CORRECT? FOR ANY ACTION UNTIL WE GIVE A DISPOSITION.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES, THAT IS CORRECT.

THAT IS ALSO CORRECT.

SO IF WE'RE GOING DOWN THE RESET

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AND IT COMES BACK, OR WE GO THAT, CAN THE PERMITS BE LIFTED SO THEY CAN ACTUALLY DO THE WORK? NO.

YES.

IF THIS, IF THIS BOARD RESETS THE CASE, UM, EVERYTHING WILL BE PUT ON HOLD UNTIL IT COMES IN FRONT OF THIS BOARD.

UM, AND THEN IT KIND OF DEPENDS ON WHAT THE BOARD ORDERS.

IF THE BOARD ORDERS, UH, THIS PROPERTY TO BE RESET AND COME BACK WITH THE BIG THREE, UM, THEN YES, PERMITS ARE STILL GONNA BE PUT ON HOLD UNTIL, UM, SOMETHING HAPPENS.

UM, IF THIS BOARD GOES AHEAD AND GIVES A, A REPAIR ORDER, THEN OF COURSE THE, THE PERMITS WOULD BE LIFTED.

AND I WANT THAT BECAUSE SOME, AS WE'VE DONE THIS IN THE PAST WHERE WE'VE ALLOWED THEM, THEY RAN OVER THERE AND TRIED TO GET PERMITS AND IT STILL HOLDS.

SO I WANT THEM TO UNDERSTAND IT.

IT JUST KIND OF DEPENDS ON WHAT THIS BOARD ORDERS, BUT WE, UM, WE WOULD CLARIFY IF YOU NEED, IF YOU NEED ANY CLARIFICATION IN THAT.

THANK YOU.

KAYLA, YOU HAVE A QUESTION? NO.

NO.

OH, OKAY.

YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION? OKAY, JOEL, I THINK I'LL JUST, I'LL DIRECT THIS TO LEGAL AS WELL.

IF WE DO MOVE FOR A 30 DAY RESET, IS IT POSSIBLE FOR US TO HAVE THE BUILDING VACATED AND SERVICES CUT AND PROPERTY SECURED? YES.

IF THIS, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD WISHES TO DO.

GOOD QUESTION.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.

ENTERTAIN A MOTION CHAIR.

THIS IS THOMAS.

I HAVE A MOTION.

THOMAS, GO AHEAD.

I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY LISTED AT 7 2 1 EAST, IT ALREADY IN, I CAN'T SAY THAT WORD.

UH, WE SHALL AVENUE, UH, IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE, WHICH IS FEASIBLE TO BE REPAIRED AT THIS TIME AND IS IN VIOLATION OF CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION 1 56, 1 2, 8, 11, 12, AND 50 15.

I MOVE THAT THIS PROPERTY, UH, BE VACATED BY CURRENT TENANTS AND THAT THE CURRENT DEED OWNERS HAVE 60 DAYS TO PRESENT TO THE BOARD A PLAN TO REPAIR THE PROPERTY.

UH, COUNSEL, UH, IS THAT AN ACCEPTABLE MOTION? YES.

I MEAN, THIS BOARD CAN, UM, UM, IN ESSENCE RESET THIS CASE, UM, PENDING, UM, PROVIDING, UH, THE BOARD INFORMATION WITH HOW THEY WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED WITH THE PROPERTY.

I WOULD STATE, UH, THAT, UM, UH, IT WOULD MUCH, IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE FEASIBLE FOR IT TO BE THE NEXT AVAILABLE, UM, HEARING DAY.

AND I STATE THAT BECAUSE IT MIGHT NOT BE 60 DAYS UNTIL THIS PROPERTY IS HURT AGAIN, DEPENDING ON THE DATE, DEPENDING ON THE PANEL.

UM, SO, UH, A RESET IS FINE.

UM, BUT I WOULD ASK THAT THAT RESET BE, UM, THE NEXT AVAILABLE, NEXT AVAILABLE, UM, UM, UM, HEARING DATE.

AND IT WOULD BE WITH THIS PANEL, IT WOULDN'T BE WITH ANOTHER PANEL.

IT WOULD BE WITH THIS ONE, BUT BASED ON HOW IT'S GOING, IT, THAT'S, THAT MIGHT BE PAST 60 DAYS.

THIS IS THOMAS RANKS.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT LEGAL'S ASKING.

I DISAGREE.

UM, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO IS GOING INTO SUMMER, WHICH IS GOING TO PUT CONTRACTORS AT BACKLOG.

I BELIEVE THAT THE OWNERS HAVE THE RIGHT TO HAVE THE NECESSARY TIME TO GET THE CORRECT INDIVIDUALS IN THERE.

SO 60 TO 90 DAYS.

THE, THE ISSUE IS SIMPLY A RESET OF THE HEARING AFTER THE INDIVIDUAL HAS HAD A CHANCE TO COLLECT INFORMATION.

IT'S NOT AN ISSUE OF CONTRACTORS.

THE ONLY ISSUE THAT WOULD BE INVOLVED WOULD BE HER ABILITY TO ACTUALLY CONSULT WITH CONTRACTORS, NOT ACTUALLY CONSTRUCT ANYTHING.

SHE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET THAT DEPENDING UPON THE RESULTS OF THE NEXT HEARING.

WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW IS THE ISSUE.

DO WE WANT TO GIVE HER TIME TO DO STUDY AND THEN COME BACK IN TO MAKE A PRESENTATION TO THE BOARD? I, AND THIS IS LEGAL.

UM, JUST AFTER CONSULTATION, I WANNA MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND SOMETHING.

IF WE'RE RESETTING THE PROPERTY, UH, WE'RE NOT FINDING IT TO BE A DANGEROUS STRUCTURE.

IF YOU ARE, IF YOU ARE FINDING IT TO BE A DANGEROUS STRUCTURE, THEN IT NEEDS TO BE EITHER REPAIRED, UM, OR A, A DEMOLITION.

SO THIS BOARD CAN RESET THE CASE, CAN VACATE THE PROPERTY, UM, CAN ASK FOR, UM, THE INFORMATION THAT YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD NEED TO MAKE A DETERMINATION, BUT IT WOULD NOT BE FOUND AS A DANGEROUS STRUCTURE AT THIS POINT IN TIME IF IT'S A RESET.

SO MY, MY, MY COMMENT BASICALLY TO YOU, THOMAS, IS THE FACT OF THE MOTION IS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, IS IT A RESET MOTION OR ARE WE TALKING ABOUT IS IT FEASIBLE TO BE REPAIRED IN YOUR ORDERING REPAIR AT THIS TIME? UH, WHICH, WHICH DIRECTION WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO IN YOUR MOTION TO

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CORRECT STAFF AND LEGAL? I DID MAKE A MOTION SAYING THIS WAS A PUBLIC NUISANCE AND ORDERED A REPAIR.

CORRECT.

BUT HOWEVER, I AMEND MY ORIGINAL MOTION CHAIR TO MAKE A MOTION TO RESET.

RESET.

VERY GOOD.

AT THE NEXT AVAILABLE TIME, DO I HAVE A SECOND? DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

SECOND.

THE MOTION IS TO RESET THE CASE TO THE NEXT AVAILABLE TIME.

AND GO AHEAD WITH YOUR, UM, HE DID SAY VACATE, BUT THAT WOULD, WE CAN'T DO THAT ON A RESET, CORRECT? YOU CAN, YOU CAN.

OKAY.

'CAUSE HE DIDN'T MENTION IT ON THIS LAST ONE, SO, OKAY.

YOUR FRIENDLY AMENDMENT IS TO VACATE, RIGHT? OKAY.

YES.

AND I HAVE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO INCLUDE DISCONNECT UTILITIES.

YES.

AND WOULD YOU ACCEPT THE SECOND ON THOSE? I SECOND IT.

A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.

GO AHEAD.

WITH YOUR FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.

UM, I WOULD LIKE, UH, THEM TO REPORT BACK TO CODE EVERY 30 DAYS ON THE PROGRESS, ON, PROGRESS, ON, ON GETTING TOGETHER THE, THE CONTRACTOR BIDS.

SO BASICALLY YOU'RE ASKING THE OWNER TO PROVIDE THE CODE OFFICER PROGRESS ON THE RESEARCH OF MAKING A DECISION YES.

TO REPAIR OR NOT REPAIR EVERY 30 DAYS? YES, MR. CHAIR, I'M GONNA, UM, I, WHILE I I, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE REASONING FOR THAT, THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE HAVE TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE ALLOWED.

NOT BECAUSE IT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA.

'CAUSE IT'S A DAMN GOOD IDEA.

UM, I THINK IT'S BECAUSE AGAIN, THERE HASN'T BEEN A DETERMINATION AS TO WHETHER THIS PROPERTY, UM, IS A DANGEROUS STRUCTURE.

AND AS SUCH, UM, STATUS REPORTS AS TO WHETHER THEY WANNA REPAIR OR WHETHER THEY WANT TO DEMOLISH IS, UM, IT'S IRRELEVANT BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T MADE A DETERMINATION AS TO WHETHER IT'S A, A DANGEROUS STRUCTURE.

SO IF WE CAN'T HAVE THAT, CAN WE HAVE A SOLID DETERMINATION, UM, WITHIN 60 DAYS ON WHETHER THEY WANT TO REPAIR OR DEMOLISH? WELL, I, I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE ASKING, BUT THAT, THAT DETERMINATION, UM, AND DECISION AS TO HOW THEY WANT TO MOVE FORWARD ON THE PROPERTY WILL BE MADE ON THE DAY THE, IT COMES BACK IN FRONT OF THIS BOARD.

UM, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT IN ESSENCE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IS TELL US WHAT YOU WANT TO DO PRIOR TO YOU COMING BEFORE THE BOARD AND PRESENTING IT TO US WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.

AND I, I, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE PROPER.

JOEL.

I I DO HAVE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.

UH, WE, WE DID HEAR TESTIMONY TODAY THAT THERE ARE VAGRANTS IN THE AREA.

VAGRANTS HAVE, UH, VISITED THE PROPERTY.

AND SO I ALSO ASK THAT, THAT IT BE SECURED PROPOSAL IS TO ADD A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO SECURE THE PROPERTY.

YES.

ACCEPTABLE BY MOTION.

YES.

ACCEPTABLE BY SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? THE, THE MOTIONS ON, ON THE TABLE AT THE PRESENT TIME IS TO RESET THE CASE, UH, TO THE NEXT AVAILABLE DATE TO VACATE THE PROPERTY, TO DISCONNECT UTILITIES TO SECURE THE STRUCTURE.

ANY DISCUSSION IT WAS TO PANEL.

THIS IS THOMAS.

I JUST WANNA REMIND THE BOARD THAT WE ARE RESETTING THIS TO ALLOW THEM TO DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO REPRESENT IT TO THE BOARD.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE BOARD CONTINUALLY IS ADDING FRIENDLY AMENDMENTS.

THAT IS, IN MY OPINION, STRONG ARMING THEM AND HOLDING THEM TO CERTAIN, THE IDEA IS TO ALLOW THEM TO 30 DAYS TO GO TO, INTO THE PROPERTY AND TO GET WHAT THEY NEED DONE TO BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD SO THAT WE CAN THEN MAKE A DECISION, THE, THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, AND THEN WE'LL LET SOMEONE ELSE SPEAK IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO.

UH, THAT THE STRUCTURE IS A DANGEROUS STRUCTURE.

YES.

AS A RESULT OF IT BEING A DANGEROUS STRUCTURE, IT SHOULD NOT BE OCCUPIED.

THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE VACATE.

THE REASON FOR DISCONNECTING THE UTILITIES IS BECAUSE IF IT UTILITIES ARE DISCONNECTED, THE PROBABILITY OF VACATE AGAIN DECREASES.

AND THE REASON FOR SECURITY IS TO HOPEFULLY MAKE SURE THERE ARE NO VAGRANT INTO ENTERING THE BUILDING.

ANYBODY ELSE WANNA COMMENT ON THAT? I DO.

YES, GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU.

MY REASONING FOR WHY I WANT MY REPORTS BACK BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY HAD THE PROPERTY FOR A YEAR, AND IF I INHERIT A PROPERTY, THE FIRST THING I'M GONNA DO IS GO OVER TO THAT PROPERTY.

AND YES, I, I'M FULL TIME EMPLOYED, BUT I DON'T HAVE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN THE BANK TO MAKE REPAIRS.

AND WHEN I ASKED THAT QUESTION, I WAS HIT WITH ANIMOSITY.

I'M NOT GONNA SHOW THAT TO YOU BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE TO, BUT YEAH, YOU DO.

I MEAN, I'M SORRY, BUT IF YOU REALLY WANT TO REPAIR THIS HOUSE, THEN YOU'RE GONNA COME IN SAYING, THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO DO AND NOT ATTACKING US.

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THIS IS THOMAS.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

I STILL WILL DISAGREE WITH THE BOARD ON THIS AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

VERY GOOD.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE.

ON THE MOTION, THE MOTION AGAIN IS TO, UH, VACATE THE PROP, EXCUSE ME.

IS TO RESET THE CASE TO VACATE THE PROPERTY, DISCONNECT UTILITIES AND SECURE THE PROPERTY.

ROLL CALL PLEASE.

DWAYNE NELSON.

AYE.

BRETT ANDIS.

AYE.

JOEL SOLI.

AYE.

DR. LINDA LOPEZ.

RODRIGUEZ.

NO.

THOMAS FRANKS AYE.

DORA SOLIS ABSTAIN.

GEORGE GRIMES AYE.

AND KAYLA MIRANDA.

AYE.

MOTION PASSES WITH THE VOTE OF 6 2 1 2 1.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OUR NEXT CASE IS GOING TO BE 4 23 MILLWOOD LANE.

GOOD MORNING BOARD FOR THE RECORD.

I'M DENISE HASTINGS, CODE ENFORCEMENT SUPERVISOR WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 4 23 MILLWOOD AND CITY COUNCIL.

DISTRICT ONE HAS A LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF NCB 1 2 0 6 7 BLOCK 22 LOT SIX.

UH, THE PROPERTY IS ZONED R FIVE, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

THE OWNER OF RECORD, ACCORDING TO BEX COUNTY APPRAISAL IS JUAN AND KORO, A ROJO.

THERE ARE 10 ALLEGED SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE VIOLATIONS.

TWO OF THE VIOLATIONS WERE ISSUED AT A LATER DATE AND WILL BE PRESENTED SEPARATELY FROM THE FIRST EIGHT.

IS IT OKAY TO PROCEED? YES, MA'AM.

THE FIRST VIOLATION IS, UH, SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE 3 0 4 0.2 PROTECTIVE TREATMENT.

ALL EXTERIOR SERVICES INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO DOORS, DOOR AND WINDOW FRAMES, CORNICES PORCHES, TRIM BALCONIES AND DECKS SHALL BE MAINTAINED IN GOOD CONDITION.

EXTERIOR WOOD SURFACES OTHER THAN DECAY RESISTANT WOODS SHALL BE PROTECTED FROM THE ELEMENTS AND DECAY BY PAINTING OR OTHER PROTECTIVE COVERING OR TREATMENT.

ALL SIDING AND MASONRY JOINTS AS WELL AS THOSE BETWEEN THE BUILDING ENVELOPE AND THE PERIMETER OF WINDOWS, DOORS, AND SKYLIGHTS SHALL BE MAINTAINED.

WEATHER RESISTANT AND WATERTIGHT.

THE SECOND VIOLATION IS 3 0 4 0.4 STRUCTURAL MEMBERS.

ALL STRUCTURAL MEMBERS SHALL BE MAINTAINED FREE FROM DE DETERIORATION AND SHALL BE CAPABLE OF SAFELY SUPPORTING THE IMPOSED DEAD AND LIVE LOADS.

THIRD ONE IS 3 0 4 0.6.

EXTERIOR WALLS.

ALL EXTERIOR WALLS SHALL BE FREE FROM HOLES, BREAKS, AND LOOSE EROTIC MATERIAL AND MAINTAIN WEATHERPROOF AND PROPERLY SURFACE COATED WHERE REQUIRED TO PREVENT DETERIORATION.

NUMBER FOUR IS 3 0 4 0.7.

ROOF AND DRAINAGE.

THE ROOF AND FLASHING SHALL BE SOUND TIGHT AND NOT HAVE DEFECTS THAT EMIT RAIN.

ROOF DRAINAGE SHALL BE ADEQUATE TO PREVENT DAMPNESS OR DETERIORATION IN THE WALLS OR INTERIOR PORTION OF THE STRUCTURE.

ROOF DRAINS, GUTTERS AND DOWNSPOUTS SHALL BE MAINTAINED AND GOOD REPAIR AND FREE FROM OBSTRUCTIONS.

OBSTRUCTIONS.

5 3 0 4 0.9 OVERHANG EXTENSIONS.

ALL OVERHANG EXTENSIONS INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO CANOPIES, MARQUEES SIGNS, METAL AWNINGS, FIRE ESCAPES, SAND PIPES, STANDPIPES AND EXHAUST DUCTS SHALL BE MAINTAINED IN GOOD REPAIR AND BE PROPERLY ANCHORED SO AS TO BE KEPT IN SOUND CONDITION WHEN REQUIRED.

ALL EXPOSED SURFACES OF METAL OR WOOD SHALL BE PROTECTED FROM ELEMENTS AND AGAINST DECAY OR RUST BY PERIODIC APPLICATION OF WEATHER COATING MATERIALS SUCH AS PAINT OR SIMILAR SURFACE TREATMENT NUMBER 6 3 0 4 0.10 STAIRS, STAIRWAYS, DECKS, PORCHES AND BALCONIES.

EVERY EXTERIOR, STAIRWAY, DECK, PORCH, AND BALCONY.

AND ALL APPENDS ATTACHED THERETO SHALL BE MAINTAINED STRUCTURALLY SOUND AND GOOD REPAIR WITH PROPER ANCHORAGE AND CAPABLE OF SUPPORTING THE THE IMPOSED LOADS.

NUMBER 7 3 0 4 0.12.

HANDRAILS AND GUARDS.

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EVERY HANDRAIL AND GUARD SHALL FIRMLY FAST, SHALL BE FIRMLY FASTENED AND CAPABLE OF SUPPORTING NORMALLY IMPOSED LOADS AND SHALL BE MAINTAINED IN GOOD CONDITION.

NUMBER 8, 3 0 4 0.13 WINDOWS, SKYLIGHT, AND DOOR FRAMES.

EVERY WINDOW, SKYLIGHT DOOR AND FRAME SHALL BE KEPT IN SOUND CONDITION, GOOD REPAIR AND WEATHER TIGHT.

THE AREA CODE OFFICER MADE AN INITIAL INSPECTION OF THE PROPERTY ON DECEMBER 7TH, AT WHICH TIME HE FOUND A NEW ADDITION TO THE EXISTING STRUCTURE, UH, WHICH WAS MISSING.

SIDING HAD EXPOSED WOOD MEMBERS ON THE EXTERIOR WALLS AND THE ADDITION HAS EXPOSED AN OPEN SUBFLOOR THAT HAS BECOME WEATHERED AND IS DETERIORATING FROM LACK OF WEATHER PROTECTION.

THE EXTERIOR WALLS OF THE ADDITION ARE INCOMPLETE WITH EXPOSED STUDS.

THE ROOF ON THE STRUCTURE IS CONSTRUCTED WITH THE THREE DIFFERENT MATERIALS AND HAS OPEN GAPS.

SHINGLES ON THE STRUCTURE ARE DETERIORATED AND FALLING OFF ROOF.

OVERHANG HAS MISSING PANELS IN THE SOFFIT AND EXPOSED WOOD STUDS.

SOFFIT BOARDS ARE WART, EXTERIOR STAIRWAY AND THE REAR LEADING UPSTAIRS TO THE UPSTAIRS ADDITION IS WEATHERED AND DETERIORATING.

NO SAFETY RAILINGS, HANDRAILS, OR GUARDS WERE INSTALLED ON THE STAIRWAY.

THERE ARE MISSING AND SOME EXPOSED WINDOW FRAMES ON THE SECOND FLOOR EDITION.

AFTER RESEARCHING AND FINDING NO PERMITS, A NOTICE WAS POSTED ON THE PROPERTY ON DECEMBER THE EIGHTH.

A RE-INSPECTION WAS MADE ON JANUARY THE EIGHTH, AT WHICH TIME THE CODE OFFICER SPOKE WITH THE SON OF THE OWNER WHO IS CURRENTLY RESIDING IN MEXICO.

THE REAR STAIRWAY WAS REPLACED AND HANDRAILS WERE ADDED.

THE CODE OFFICER INFORMED THE SON TO STOP ALL WORK UNTIL PERMITS WERE OBTAINED.

ANOTHER RE-INSPECTION WAS MADE ON FEBRUARY THE THIRD 13TH, UH, 2024.

CODE OFFICER FOUND THAT WORK HAD CONTINUED AND NEW SIDING AND WALLS WERE ADDED TO THE SECOND FLOOR.

ADDITION WINDOW FRAMES WERE COVERED AND TRIMMING WAS INSTALLED AROUND THE WINDOWS.

ON FEBRUARY 27TH, 2024, THE CODE OFFICER OBTAINED A WARRANT TO INSPECT THE INSIDE OF THE ADDITION.

THE UPSTAIRS PORTION IS OCCUPIED BY SEVERAL PEOPLE.

CODE OFFICER OBSERVED NEW PLUMBING WORK AND SEWER ADDED TO THE ADDITION.

METHANE STACKS WERE FOUND ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE STRUCTURE OPENING INTO A ROOM OCCUPIED BY TWO INDIVIDUALS.

CODE OFFICER ALSO FOUND EXPOSED AND OPEN ELECTRICAL OUTLETS AND LOOSE WIRING.

UM, CAN I PROCEED WITH THIS THE LAST TWO? YES, PLEASE.

SO MARCH 21ST, 2024.

AFTER RESEARCHING THE PROPERTY FOR PLUMBING AND ELECTRICAL PERMITS, THE CODE OFFICER POSTED NOTICE FOR THE FOLLOWING SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE VIOLATIONS 6 0 4 0.3 ELECTRICAL SYSTEM HAZARD WHERE IT IS FOUND THAT ELECTRICAL SYSTEM IN A STRUCTURE CONSTITUTES THE HAZARD TO THE OCCUPANTS OR THE STRUCTURE BY REASON OF INADEQUATE SERVICE.

IMPROPER FUSING, INSUFFICIENT RECEPTACLE AND LIGHTING OUTLETS.

IMPROPER WIRING OR INSTALLATION DETERIORATION OR DAMAGE ARE FOR SIMILAR REASONS.

THE CODE OFFICIALS SHALL REQUIRE THE DEFECTS TO BE CORRECTED TO ELIMINATE THE HAZARD.

5 0 6 0.2 MAINTENANCE EVERY PLUMBING STACK, VENT, WASTE, AND SEWER LINE SHALL FUNCTION PROPERLY AND BE KEPT FREE FROM OBSTRUCTIONS, LEAKS, AND DEFECTS.

THE CODE OFFICER SPOKE WITH THE OWNER.

UH, THIS IS THE REAL OWNER WHO WAS BACK FROM MEXICO TO INFORM HIM THAT HE LEFT THE PROJECT OF THE BILL AND THE OWNER INFORMED HIM THAT HE LEFT, LEFT THE PROJECT OF THE BUILDING TO HIS SON.

A REINSPECTION WAS MADE ON MARCH, UH, 12TH AND 13TH.

NO PROGRESS HAD BEEN MADE TO OBTAIN ANY PERMITS FOR THE WORK THAT WAS DONE AND IS BEING DONE TO THIS DAY.

I ASK THAT THE BOARD FIND A PROPERTY TO BE IN VIOLATIONS OF SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODES 3 0 4 0.2.

PROTECTIVE TREATMENT 3 0 4 0.4 STRUCTURAL MEMBERS, 3 0 4 0.6.

EXTERIOR WALLS, 3 0 4 0.7.

ROOF AND DRAINAGE 3 0 4 0.9 OVERHANG EXTENSIONS 3 0 4 0.10 STAIRWAY DECKS, PORCHES AND BALCONIES.

3 0 4 0.1 12 HANDRAILS AND GUARDS.

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3 0 4 0.13 WINDOWS, SKYLIGHTS DOOR FRAMES.

AND IN A SEPARATE MOTION OF SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODES, 6 0 4 0.3.

ELECTRICAL HAZARDS.

5 0 6 0.2 MAINTENANCE.

THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

I DO UNDERSTAND THAT YOU STATED THAT A STOP WORK HAD BEEN POSTED ON THE PROPERTY.

YES.

QUESTIONS OF THE CODE OFFICER? UH, THIS IS FRED ANDERSON.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FIRST, UH, SLIDE, DID YOU ADDRESSED ELECTRICAL ISSUES EARLIER WITHIN THE, THE NEW ADDITION, CORRECT? YES.

CAN, IF YOU GUYS ZOOM, I'M LOOKING AT ONE THAT, THAT'S THE FIRST SLIDE.

HANG ON A MINUTE.

THIS IS 44.

I'M SORRY.

IS THAT THE FIRST SLIDE IS 44? NO, IT'D BE SLIDE 44.

UM, ON THE FIRST SLIDE, WHICH IS A GOOD ONE.

THEY ONLY SHOWED THE UTILITY GOOSE UP RIGHT THERE.

THIS ONE SHOWS A, UH, I'M ASSUMING THAT RAIL IS SO THEY CAN DO CONSTRUCTION.

UGH.

YES.

OKAY.

DO YOU SEE WHERE THE ELECTRICAL BOX IS? OR THE GOOSE RIGHT THERE IS? YES.

THAT WASN'T ADDRESSED.

THAT'S A SAFETY HAZARD TOO, CORRECT? YES.

SO WHEN YOU ADDRESSED ELECTRICAL, IT WAS ONLY TO THE NEW ADDITION AND ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE ADDITION? ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE STRUCTURE, PERIOD.

SO THAT WOULD BE WITHIN THE, THAT WOULD BE WITHIN THE RIGHT NEW BECAUSE S IT'S NOT PROPERLY ONE THAT'S NOT A PROPER BRACE OR SECURITY AND IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE GOOSENECK AND THEY DIDN'T BLOCK IT OFF.

THAT'S CORRECT.

WAS THERE, OTHER THAN THAT, DID YOU I DIDN'T SEE THE FOUNDATION OF IT.

DID YOU LOOK AT TO SEE THE FIRST STORY TO THE SECOND, OR WAS THE FIRST STORY WHERE YOU CAN'T SEE THE BRACING TO SEE IF, IF THE WALLS ARE ADEQUATE THOUGH, HOLD THE WEIGHT? SO THE, THE DRYWALL WAS ALREADY PUT INTO THE EX, THE ADDITION ON THE SECOND FLOOR.

THE FIRST FLOOR IS AN EXISTING STRUCTURE THAT'S BEEN AROUND SINCE, UH, THE SIXTIES, BUT IT'S NOT DESIGNED TO CARRY THE LOAD OF A SECOND STORY.

AND I'M, I'M ASKING, DID, DID YOU GET TO SEE WHERE THEY TIED INTO THE FIRST STORY AS WELL? THERE WAS NO WAY TO SEE BECAUSE SHEET ROCK, THE FLOOR WAS ALREADY DOWN? YES.

SO AS YOU COULD SEE, WAS WHAT WASN'T SHEET ROCK? 'CAUSE I NOTICED THERE WAS SOME WALLS THAT YOU PUT THAT PAPER ON.

YES.

THOSE WERE STUDS.

SO I'M ASSUMING YOU GOT TO SEE STUFF LIKE THAT.

THAT IS CORRECT.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THE CODE OFFICER, THIS IS THOMAS FRANKS.

I JUST HAVE ONE.

SO THE OWNER AND OWNER'S SON HAD BASICALLY GIVEN, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL HAVE THE, AROUND THIS ENTIRE TIME WITH DIFFERENT STORIES OF WE'RE GONNA FIX IT, THEN THIS IS GONNA FIX IT.

IS THAT CORRECT? THEY NEVER TOLD US ANYTHING OTHER THAN THEY JUST CONTINUED TO WORK.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

YEAH.

THIS IS, UH, JOEL SLAC.

I JUST HAVE, UH, REGARDS TO THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE POPUP.

WAS THERE EVER A PERMIT PULLED FOR THAT POPUP TO BEGIN WITH? NO.

PERMITS WERE PULLED ON THE PROPERTY.

AND THE SECOND QUESTION I HAD FOR YOU REGARDS THE ELECTRICAL 6 0 4 0.3.

YOU DID NOT REQUEST A LICENSED ELECTRICIAN.

WHY WAS THAT? BECAUSE ONLY A LICENSED ELECTRICIAN CAN GET A PERMIT.

SO THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YES.

WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE PROPERTY.

OKAY.

WE RECEIVED AN EMAIL ON MONDAY, APRIL 8TH AT 4:43 PM UM, RIDER IS ANONYMOUS.

I'M A CONCERNED CITIZEN THAT LIVED IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD FOR ABOUT 45 YEARS.

I'VE SEEN A LOT OF CHANGES IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOT GOOD.

I'VE SEEN 4 23 MILLWOOD BUILD AND CONSTRUCT ON THE PROPERTY WITHOUT CODE COMPLIANCE INSPECTION.

AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE.

I COULD BE WRONG.

I'VE SEEN A CO A CONCRETE SLAB BEING CONSTRUCTED ON FRIDAY AFTERNOON AND THE CONCRETE, UH, TRUCK POURING SATURDAY MORNING, PERHAPS THE SLAB THAT THE STRUCTURE IS SITTING ON THE ROOF ON THE HOUSE IS NOT EVEN COMPLETED.

MY FRUSTRATION IS THAT IF I HAVE A PROJECT AND I NEED A PERMIT, I PAY FOR IT AND HAVE THE WORK INSPECTED.

AND YET SOME HOME HOMEOWNERS GET AWAY WITH NOT PULLING A PERMIT.

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I HAVE AN APPOINTMENT THURSDAY AND WISH TO REMAIN ANONYMOUS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

WE HAVE A QUESTION OF STAFF.

UM, LET ME, UH, ASK THIS.

IN THIS SITUATION WHERE THE CODE OFFICER GOES OUT THERE, AND I'M NOT INSULTING ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT THEY KNOW ON STRUCTURES AND STUFF, WOULD AN ENGINEER FROM THIS, UH, STAFF ENGINEER BE ABLE TO GO AND LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO, BECAUSE IF IT WASN'T BUILT TO CODE, WOULD THAT NOT MEAN IT WOULD HAVE TO COME DOWN AND RE YOU'RE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SECOND FLOOR? YES.

ANYTHING? WELL, EVEN THE FIRST FLOOR, BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME CONSTRUCTION DONE DOWN HERE IN THE BOTTOM.

I'M JUST ASKING 'CAUSE I'M NOT, I DON'T BELIEVE THEY'RE TRAINED ENOUGH TO NO STRUCTURE TO STRUCTURE.

THEY'RE JUST, SO WOULD THAT BE AN ENGINEER FROM STAFF TO GO OUT TO KIND OF HELP OUT THE, THE UM, CODE OFFICER? THIS IS EMIN THOMAS, DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT.

BUT WHEN THE CODE OFFICER SEES ANY VIOLATIONS AND WE IDENTIFY THOSE, THE OWNER IS RESPONSIBLE TO MAKE SURE THEY TAKE CARE OF THAT.

WE DO NOT ASK, UH, TO DEMO ANY ITEMS THAT THEY WERE PUT IN INSTALLED OR BUILT WITHOUT PERMIT.

THEY CAN BE CORRECTED.

UH, SO IF THEY NEED TO BRING A STRUCTURE ENGINEER TO LOOK AT IT AND CORRECT THE ISSUE, THEY THEY CAN, THE OWNER CAN DO THAT.

OKAY.

WELL, I'M SAYING THAT BECAUSE SHE GOES IN AND THERE'S SHEET ROCK, THERE'S OBVIOUS PROBLEMS. SO, AND SHE CAN'T TEAR ANYTHING OUT TO LOOK AT ANYTHING.

SO CAN SHE SO WE CAN ORDER THEM TO BRING IN AN ENGINEER.

CORRECT.

WHEN, WHEN THEY, UH, APPLY FOR PERMITS, WE WILL REVIEW THE WORK THEY'RE GONNA DO.

AND IF THEY NEED TO BRING AN ENGINEER, WE WILL ASK THEM TO DO SO.

UH, THAT'S PART OF THE PERMITTING PROCESS.

OKAY.

THE REASON I ASK THAT IS BECAUSE ON JPEG 45, THE COUNTY LEVER SEEMS TO BE WAY OUT OF WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE, BECAUSE TO ME, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A PHOTO THE WAY SOME CAMERAS ARE DONE, BUT THAT ONE CORNER IS LEANING FROM BOTTOM TO TOP BY THAT WINDOW.

THAT'S A STRUCTURE.

AND THAT WOULD HAVE TO TAKE AN ENGINEER TO ACTUALLY GO IN THERE AND LOOK AT THE WHOLE THING.

THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THAT.

'CAUSE OTHERWISE YOU GET A PERMIT TO GO.

CORRECT.

THEY'RE GONNA GO IN THERE AND DO THE SAME THING THEY'VE GOT 'CAUSE THEY GOT A PERMIT.

THIS IS LEGAL.

UM, UH, AS, AS THIS BOARD KNOWS, CLICK ON, UH, BASED ON, ON THE REVIEW AND THE EVIDENCE THAT YOU'RE PROVIDED, IF THIS BOARD BELIEVES THAT THE PROPERTY SHOULD BE REVIEWED AS A DANGEROUS STRUCTURE, IT CAN, WHAT I WOULD ASK IS THAT WE FOCUS SOLELY ON THE ISSUES THAT ARE IN FRONT OF THE BOARD.

UH, I I'M NOT TRYING TO DISCOUNT ANYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID OR WHAT YOU'RE LOSING 'CAUSE WE DEFINITELY NEED YOUR EXPERTISE.

UM, BUT I DUNNO WHAT THE DISTRICT, THE PROPERTY'S BEING PRESENTED, THE WAY THAT IT'S BEING PRESENTED BY CODE.

SO IF THIS BOARD BELIEVES THAT, UM, A MORE THOROUGH AND, UM, INSPECTION ON THE PROPERTY NEEDS TO HAPPEN, THEN THIS BOARD CAN, UH, THIS BOARD HAS THE AUTHORITY AND THE ABILITY TO, UM, UH, TO INCREASE THE, THE TYPE OF INSPECTION THAT IT HAS, WHETHER IT'S INSPECTED, EXCUSE ME, I DIDN'T MEAN TO SAY INCREASE, BUT TO CHANGE THE TYPE OF INSPECTION THAT THEY WANTED.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, UM, I WOULD URGE US TO BE CAUTIOUS ABOUT, UM, ADDRESSING ISSUES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN, UH, PRESENTED BY CODE TO BE BROUGHT IN FRONT OF THE BOARD.

UM, EVEN THOUGH WE DO HAVE SOMEBODY THAT OWNS A PROPERTY THAT IS NOT HERE, THEY DO NEED TO HAVE NOTICE OF WHAT IS BEING ADDRESSED.

AND SO THAT, I WOULD JUST, I WOULD CAUTION THAT I, I DO NOT WANNA PUT A LID ON ANYBODY'S KNOWLEDGE OR THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ADDRESSING THE ISSUES THAT ARE AT HAND, UM, UM, THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT BY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND, AND I'M DOING THAT, BUT I, I BELIEVE THIS KIND OF LOCKS THE CODE OFFICER INTO WHEN THEY PULL A PERMIT, THEY'VE GOT ALL OF IT COVERED UP.

SHE CAN'T REALLY DO A FULL ASSESSMENT.

BUT FROM WHAT I'M SEEING, IT'S NOT JUST A FIXABLE ITEM, IT'S JUST ALLOWING A HOMEOWNER TO JUST GO DO HIS THING.

UH, A AGAIN, JUST TO CLARIFY.

SO THE CODE OFFICER WILL NOT DO THE INSPECTIONS, UH, AS SOON AS THEY PULL PERMITS, THEN WE HAVE OUR INSPECTION TEAM THAT THEY ARE TRAINED AND CERTIFIED ON THE DISCIPLINES THEY, THEY ARE IN AND THEY'RE THE ONE WHO GONNA DO THE INSPECTION.

SO AGAIN, AS SOON AS THE PERMIT IS PULLED, ALL REQUIRED INSPECTIONS WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF.

AND IF AN ENGINEER IS NEEDED, THEN WE WILL ASK FOR THAT AT, AT THAT TIME.

OKAY.

WELL THAT ANSWERS IT.

'CAUSE NOW

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IT'S A FOLLOW UP WITH PEOPLE WHO ASSIST THE CODE BECAUSE SHE'S BROUGHT IT TO US.

NOW THEY CAN GO IN AND MAKE SURE THEY CORRECT ALL THE ISSUES OTHER THAN WHAT SHE, 'CAUSE THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO DEEPER.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

THAT THAT IS CORRECT.

YES.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANKS.

SO WE CAN LEAVE IT AS IS AND MAKE 'EM CORRECT IT OR YES.

I MEAN, WELL, WE CAN ALSO THANK YOU.

JOEL, YOU HAVE A QUESTION? GO AHEAD.

I, I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

AND THIS REALLY GETS BACK TO THE RECOMMENDATION ON 3 0, 4 0.4 STRUCTURAL MEMBERS.

UH, IT WAS NOT RE IT WAS DOWN JUST AS REPAIR.

UH, BUT I, I BELIEVE THAT WE REALLY DO NEED AN ENGINEERING REPORT, UH, GIVEN THAT, THAT THE, THE POPUP, THE SECOND FLOOR, UH, WAS NOT PERMITTED AND WE HAVE NO IDEA WHETHER THAT IS STRUCTURALLY SAFE.

AND SO I WOULD BE LOOKING TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT WE COULD, UM, CHANGE THE, UH, RECOMMENDATION THERE TO INCLUDE AN ENGINEERING REPORT.

COUNSEL, I GUESS THAT'S A QUESTION TO YOU.

CAN WE RECOMMEND TO THE STAFF TO INCLUDE A REQUIREMENT FOR AN ENGINEERING REPORT? UH, AND THERE'S SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THAT FROM JUST STRICTLY THE INITIAL FOUNDATION, UH, BEING ABLE TO SUPPORT THE STRUCTURE ADDED TO IT.

UH, SO I GUESS WE'VE GOT MULTIPLE QUESTIONS DEALING WITH THAT.

AND THAT MAY BE AN ISSUE THAT YOU HAVE TO CONSULT WITH STAFF ALSO.

LET ME, LET ME ANSWER THAT INSTEAD OF COUNSEL.

I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY, BUT I'LL ANSWER THAT JUSTICE HANSON.

AGAIN, ANYTIME , THANKS.

ANYTIME, UH, ANYBODY PULLS A PERMIT TO BUILD A SECOND STORY, IT IS REQUIRED TO BE DESIGNED BY AN ENGINEER.

SO WE WILL REQUIRE THAT TO, UH, ALLOW THEM TO OBTAIN THE PERMIT ANYWAYS.

SO AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, AS SOON AS THEY APPLY FOR A PERMIT, ANY REQUIREMENTS THAT IS NEEDED, WE WILL ASK FOR THOSE REQUIREMENTS REGARDLESS IF IT WAS BUILT AND COVERED UP WITH SHEET TRACK AND EVERYTHING.

UH, AGAIN, UH, FOR, FOR SAFETY REASONS, WE NEED TO, IF WE NEED TO SEE IT ALL THE SHEET TRUCK NEEDS TO BE REMOVED, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO SEE IT.

THEIR ENGINEER NEEDS TO LOOK AT IT.

UH, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO ASK FOR IT.

IT'S JUST GONNA GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.

OKAY.

UH, A SEPARATE QUESTION AGAIN TO STAFF.

UH, THE QUESTION OF IF SOMEONE VIOLATES A STOP ORDER, WHAT'S THE ENFORCEMENT PROCEDURE BOARD? THIS IS, UH, JENNY RAMIREZ WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT.

UM, IT'S AN ESCALATING PROCESS.

WE DO HAVE AN, UM, ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING CITATIONS THAT WE DO ISSUE.

THEY START AT $300.

THE NEXT ONE WOULD BE $500.

THE NEXT ONE WOULD BE A THOUSAND DOLLARS.

AND THOSE CAN BE DONE.

UM, THEY TYPICALLY START OUT WEEKLY, THEN WE'LL ESCALATE TO DAILY IF, UH, THE WORK CONTINUES.

UM, AT THE END OF THOSE, WHEN THOSE ARE ADJUDICATED, IF WE NEED TO THEN GO AND PROCESS POTENTIALLY, UM, THE RECOMMENDATION FOR A DISCONNECT OF UTILITY SERVICES, WE CAN, WE CAN DO THAT AS WELL.

THAT'S TYPICALLY ON THE LAST ESCALATION FORCE.

BUT THAT IS ALSO WITHIN OUR, KIND OF OUR TOOLBOX.

OKAY.

UH, SO BASICALLY THE, THE BOARD, THE BOARD IS GONNA BE LOOKING AT AN ISSUE OF, UH, A VIOLATION OF SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODES.

UH, AND WE'LL DEAL WITH THE MOTION SPECIFICALLY AS, AS PROPOSED IN THE MOTION ITSELF.

UH, AND THE ISSUE OF ENFORCEMENT CAN GO, CAN CONTINUE WITHOUT, UH, ANY ADDITIONAL, UH, ORDER FROM THE BOARD.

THAT'S AN AUTOMATIC ISSUE.

VERY GOOD.

THAT IS CORRECT.

AND ONE, ONE OTHER THING TO ADD, TYPICALLY WE WILL ISSUE THAT TO THE CONTRACTOR AS WELL AS THE OWNER.

SO THAT'S A KIND OF A TWO, TWO STEP PROCESS THAT WE'LL ISSUE SEPARATE TICKETS, BUT THE ENFORCEMENT ACTION OCCURS THE SAME WAY.

OKAY.

SO THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE IS, UH, WELL, THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE IS FOR THE BOARD TO MAKE A DECISION.

ONE MORE, ONE MORE LAST.

UM, NOW WHEN THEY COME IN FOR THE PERMITS, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO BRING IN THE BLUEPRINTS CORRECT? WHAT THEY'RE DOING FROM FOUNDATION ALL THE WAY UP.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES AND NO.

SO, UH, , SO IT'S NOT CORRECT.

IT DEPENDS.

IT DEPENDS WHAT THEY'RE APPLYING FOR.

BECAUSE YOU MADE A GENERAL COMMENT.

IF THEY COME FOR A PERMIT, THEY, THEY REQUIRE ALL THAT.

IT'S NOT NECESSARILY, I MEAN, AND, AND, AND IN THIS CASE, BECAUSE THEY'RE BUILDING A SECOND STORY YES, THAT IS CORRECT.

IT WOULD HAVE TO BE THE FOUNDATION, THE BEEFING UP OF THE FIRST FLOOR TO CARRY THE WEIGHT OF THE SECOND FLOOR AND ROOF.

SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A SET OF BLUEPRINTS SHOWING THE ADDITION TO THAT WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF CODE, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT, YES.

SO THAT'S AND THE FINE ISSUE, YOU GUYS ARE ALREADY HANDLING THAT, RIGHT? YES.

OKAY.

SO WE DON'T HAVE TO, WELL, WE COULD TACKLE FINE ON IT, BUT WE'LL DEAL WITH IT.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

THE, THE BOARD WILL BE LOOKING AT TWO MOTIONS.

ONE MOTION WILL BE, UH, FORTH.

WELL, ACTUALLY, I, I WILL WAIT FOR THE MOTION TO BE MADE, BUT THERE'LL BE TWO

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SEPARATE MOTIONS REQUIRED ON THIS PROPERTY.

CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

MR. CHAIR, UH, SORRY, THIS IS LEGAL COUNCIL.

GO AHEAD.

I, I JUST WANT TO, THIS GIVES GIVING ME A TEACHABLE MOMENT.

I DO WANNA MAKE SURE, UM, EVERY BOARD, EVERY PERSON ON THE BOARD UNDERSTANDS WHY WE ARE HAVING TWO SEPARATE ORDERS FOR THIS ONE PROPERTY.

IF YOU LOOK, NOTICE OF VIOLATION IS GIVEN A DIFFERENT DATE FOR THE MAINTENANCE AS COMPARED TO THE OTHER VIOLATIONS.

DUE TO THAT FACT, THERE WILL BE TWO, UH, ORDERS THAT GO OUT FOR THIS PROPERTY.

ONE WILL ADDRESS THE MAINTENANCE BECAUSE THAT VIOLATION NOTICE WAS GIVEN ON, I WANT, I WANNA SAY MARCH 1ST OF THIS YEAR.

UH, THE OTHER FIVE OR SIX VIOLATIONS, UM, NOTICE OF VIOLATION WAS GIVEN IN DECEMBER.

SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE, UH, MR. GRIMES, UH, I WANTED TO GIVE MR. FRANKS AND, AND MS. OISE INFORMATION AS TO WHY WE'RE DOING IT THAT WAY.

AND, AND JUST TO ADD TO THAT, THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT CODES IN THAT SECOND MOTION, WHICH WILL BE MAINTENANCE 5 0 6 0.2, AND THEN ELECTRICAL, UH, 6 0 4 0.3.

SO JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, UH, CHAIR, ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I HAVE A MOTION.

GO AHEAD, MA'AM.

I MOVED AT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT, UH, 4 23 MILLWOOD LANE.

IS, WAS IN VIOLATION OF SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE SECTIONS FOR, UM, EXCUSE ME, FOR DECEMBER 8TH, 2023.

UH, SECTIONS 3 0 4 0.230 4.430 4.630 4.7 3 0, 4 0.9 3 0, 4 POINT, UH, TEN THREE OH FOUR POINT 12, AND 3 0 4 POINT 13.

AND ON MARCH, IF YOU WOULD, LET'S JUST GO AHEAD, DEAL WITH ONE MOTION AT THIS TIME, SEPARATE.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, AND IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE.

I ALSO FIND THAT THE PROPERTY REMAINS IN VIOLATION.

UH, THE PROPERTY WILL BE, OR, SO HOW AM I DO THIS? THE PROPERTY, UH, IS TO STOP ALL WORK UNTIL ALL PERMITS ARE PULLED.

UM, AND TO BE REPAIRED WITHIN 60 DAYS OF THE PERMITS BEING PULLED.

THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS TO, UH, THAT THE PROPERTY IS IN VIOLATION OF SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODES 3 0 4 0.230 4.430 4.630 4.730 4.9304 POINT TEN THREE OH FOUR POINT 12 3 0 4 POINT 13, THAT THE, UH, PRESENT WORK BE STOPPED UNTIL PERMITS ARE ACQUIRED, ACQUIRED, UH, AND THAT REPAIRS WILL BE COMPLETED IN 60 DAYS.

CHAIR WOULD ADD A FRIENDLY MOMENT OR FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THAT THE BUILDING IS PRESENT BEING OCCUPIED.

IT SHOULD NOT BE OCCUPIED.

SO I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT IT BE VA THAT FLOOR BE VACATED.

I AGREE.

OKAY.

ACCEPTED.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? HOLD ON.

DID ANYBODY SECOND THAT? NOT YET.

THAT'S THE REASON WHY I ASKED FOR A SECOND.

OKAY.

I SECOND WITH A, A CO, UH, ASK FOR COUNSEL BEFORE I MAKE THIS MOTION.

UM, CAN WE FINE 'EM AFTER IF THEY DON'T MEET THE REQUIRED 60 DAYS? THIS BOARD DOES HAVE THAT ABILITY.

I, I, I DO HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

UM, IN REGARDS TO THE VACATE, ARE WE DOING THE VACATE, UM, BASED ON THE ELECTRICAL AND THE MAINTENANCE ISSUES? UH, ACTUALLY MY VACATE OUR PROPOSAL WAS BECAUSE, UH, THEY HAVE OCCUPIED A BUILDING THAT DOES NOT HAVE PERMITS TO BE STRUCTURED.

AS A RESULT, IT IS AN UNSAFE STRUCTURE TO BE OCCUPYING.

THANK YOU.

UM, OKAY.

SO MY FRIENDLY AMENDMENT WOULD BE THAT WE FINE 'EM $500 A WEEK AFTER THE 60 DAYS.

OH.

AND THAT CODE HAS A FOLLOW UP EVERY 15 DAYS.

DO YOU WANNA RESTRICT CODE PERFORMANCE TO THAT 15 DAY, EVERY 15 DAYS TILL THE 60 DAYS ARE DONE? SO IT'D BE, THEY'D HAVE TO REPORT TO CODE OR CODE WILL CHECK ON IT EVERY 15 DAYS AFTER THE 60 DAYS, IF THEY'RE NOT COMPLIED IN, COME TO COMPLIANCE $500 A WEEK FOR EVERY AFTER, AFTER THE 60 DAYS.

RIGHT? I'M SORRY.

OKAY.

DID NOT UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT CODE WILL DO IT EVERY 15 DAYS.

KAYLA, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, YOU'RE, YOU'RE ASKING FOR CODE TO GO EVERY 15 DAYS AFTER

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THE 60 DAYS? YES.

NO, NO.

DURING THIS, DURING THE 60 DAYS FOR THE, THE, THE FOLLOW UP TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE.

WE'VE DONE IT BEFORE ON THE, ON APARTMENTS.

WE'VE DONE IT WHILE THEY'RE DOING IT.

AND THEN AFTER THE 60 DAYS, IF THEY'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH YOUR 60 DAY ORDER, $500 A WEEK EVERY WEEK, THEY'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE.

I AGREE.

SO THE 15 DAYS IS TO EVERY 15 DAYS AFTER PERMITS ARE DRAWN AND WORK BEGINS, AND THEN THE FINE IS AFTER THE 60 DAYS? YES, BECAUSE IF IT'S A DANGEROUS STRUCTURE, THEY HAVE TO DO A LOT TO GET IT BACK.

AND CODE SHOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE THEY DO IT.

UNDERSTOOD.

DOES EVERYONE ELSE UNDERSTAND THE MOTION? DO I NEED TO REPEAT THE MOTION? NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.

OKAY.

ALL YOU ACCEPT THE SECOND I ACCEPT OR THE SECOND, UH, AND SHE ACCEPTED THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT WITH THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT SINCE YOU MADE IT, UH, YEAH.

I'LL DO A ROLL CALL JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL UNDERSTAND.

ROLL CALL.

CAN WE HAVE A DISCUSSION? UH, YEAH.

I'M SORRY.

THANKS FOR ASKING THAT.

MR. MR. CHAIR.

SIR.

THIS, THIS IS LEGAL.

I, I I DO WANT TO, I DO WANNA REITERATE THAT THE ELECTRICAL AND THE, UH, MA MECHANICAL ISSUES, MAINTENANCE ISSUES, EXCUSE ME, ARE ON THE SECOND FLOOR.

UM, BASED ON WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, YOU ARE DOING A MOTION TO VACATE OR INCLUDING A VACATE ORDER, EXCUSE ME.

UM, BASED ON THE VIOLATIONS, UM, WHERE NOTICE WAS GIVEN ON DECEMBER 8TH, PROTECTIVE TREATMENT, STRUCTURAL MEMBERS, EXTERIOR WALLS, ROOF AND DRAINAGE, OVERHEAD EXTENSIONS, STAIRWAYS, HANDRAILS, AND GUARDS, AND, AND WINDOWS, SKYLIGHT DOOR, AND DOORFRAMES.

I, I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT ANY OF THOSE WOULD QUALIFY OR RISE TO THE LEVEL OF A VACATE ORDER.

UM, I, I WOULD STATE, AND WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT IT YET, THAT THOSE MIGHT BE MORE, UM, UM, WHAT'S THE WORD I'M RELEVANT TO, UM, THE OTHER TWO VIOLATIONS THAT HAPPENED IN MARCH.

BUT I WOULD ALSO CAUTION YOU THAT THOSE, THOSE ISSUES, UM, BASED ON CODE'S EVIDENCE AND CODE'S PRESENTATION ARE, ARE LIMITED TO THE SECOND STORY.

I HEARD THE SECOND STORY.

I, WELL, AT LEAST I THOUGHT, I I THOUGHT YOU SAID SECOND STORY VACATE THE SECOND STORY.

IT'S, IT'S, THE VACATE IS ON THE SECOND STORY ONLY.

BUT WHAT COUNCIL IS ADDRESSING IS THE ISSUES, UH, MAY OR MAY NOT BE SUPPORTIVE OF VACATE.

HOWEVER, I DID HEAR THAT, OR AT LEAST I THOUGHT I HEARD THAT IN THE FIRST SIX MOTIONS, THE BUILDING OR STRUCTURE ACTUALLY WAS NOT FULLY, UH, DRIED OUT OR WEATHER PROTECTED BECAUSE THERE WERE STILL VACANT, UH, OR GAPS IN THE ROOF, AS AN EXAMPLE.

UH, THERE'S STILL THE POTENTIAL ON SOME OF THE WINDOWS, I THOUGHT.

UH, AND THERE'S, BASED ON WHAT I THINK I SEE, THERE'S NOT ELECTRICAL SUPPLY TO THE SECOND FLOOR.

UH, AND I HEAR WHAT YOU SAY THAT THE ELECTRICAL ISSUE IS ON THE SECOND, UH, WOULD BE PART OF THE SECOND MOTION.

UH, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO WITHDRAWING IT.

UH, I WILL WITHDRAW THE VACATE ON THIS MOTION.

WOULD YOU ACCEPT THE SECOND? WELL, LET, LET LET, WE'RE GOING INTO DISCUSSION, BUT WE CAN COME BACK.

IF YOU LOOK AT PIXEL 40, AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE CAN HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND THAT BASED ON, ON THE VIOLATIONS FROM DECEMBER 8TH, RIGHT? RIGHT.

I I'M NOT SEEING A JUSTIFICATION FOR A VACATE.

UH, PICTURE 40 IS A VENT THAT GOES INTO THE BUILDING THAT IS, UH, AND IF CODE, IS THAT A SECOND FLOOR? YES.

THAT IS, IS IT IN THE ALREADY DONE PART OR IS IT IN THE NEW PART? IT'S IN THE NEW PART OF THE SECOND.

SO THAT WOULD BE, THAT'S, UH, RIGHT THERE.

THAT VENT WOULD BE A REASON.

PLUS THE STRUCTURE IS NOT PROPERLY DONE.

WOULD BE A REASON FOR VACATE.

I WOULD AGREE.

CERTAINLY WITH THE STRUCTURE OF MEMBERS BEING AN ISSUE FOR THE FIRST FLOOR.

AGAIN, I, I WANT TO CLARIFY.

I'M NOT SAYING YOU CAN'T DO A VACATE ORDER.

WHAT I AM SAYING TO YOU AS YOU'RE AS LEGAL COUNSEL, IT SOLID FOOTING ON THE SECOND ORDER.

BECAUSE, BECAUSE COUNSEL IS GIVING US THE ABILITY TO DO EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT TO DO IN A SECOND ORDER.

I WITHDRAW THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT ON THE FIRST ORDER.

ON THE FIRST ORDER, WHICH MAKE, WELL, WE, AGAIN, THE FIRST ORDER, YOU HAVE THAT MONOXIDE COMING IN AND THAT FALLS IN THE FIRST ORDER.

CORRECT? IF I CODE, WOULD THAT BE? IT DOES, BUT BASED ON, AGAIN, I DO WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE SURE.

RIGHT.

BASED ON THE MAINTENANCE AND THE ELECTRICAL ISSUES THIS BOARD HAS, CAN JUSTIFY A VACATE.

AND THAT VACATE THAT WOULD BE THE SECOND ORDER.

THE, THE ORDER WHERE THE NOTICE OF VIOLATION IS, IS MARCH 1ST.

OKAY.

I'M NOT STATING THAT YOU CAN'T DO ONE.

WHAT

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I AM STATING IS THAT I, I I THINK IT'S MORE OF A SOUND ORDER IF YOU PLACE IT ON THE SECOND.

RIGHT.

SO ALL THE WEIGHT WOULD BE ON YOUR SECOND ORDER FOR MORE CLEAR FOR, FOR THE BETTER CASE.

I, I WOULD, I WOULD URGE US TO, TO FOCUS ON THE, THE, THE FLOOR THAT IS IN VIOLATION AND WHAT THE BOARD HAS BROUGHT.

KAYLA HAS WHAT, UH, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES BROUGHT TO YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

KAYLA HAS WITHDRAWN THAT, UH, BASED ON MY PROPOSAL TO WITHDRAW THAT.

DO YOU AGREE WITH WITHDRAWING THE VACATE ON THE FIRST MOTION AS A SECOND? YEAH.

'CAUSE IT'S GONNA GO INTO THE SECOND ANYWAY, SO IT'S NOT GONNA MATTER.

IT'S GONNA HAPPEN ANYWAY.

NOW THEN JOEL, YOU HAD ANOTHER QUESTION? I'M SORRY.

THEY GO AHEAD.

WELL, YOU KNOW, I STILL KIND EQUIVALENT ABOUT THE STRUCTURAL MEMBERS.

UH, THAT IS ON THE, THE FIRST FLOOR HOLDING UP THE SECOND FLOOR.

SO I'M WORRIED ABOUT, REALLY ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE STRUCTURE.

OKAY.

I THINK IT COULD BE A HAZARD.

THE OTHER IS THAT WE'RE STILL HAVING THE $500 A WEEK, UH, FOLLOW UP EVERY 15 DAYS FOR THE BOTTOM FLOOR.

IS THAT REALLY SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO FOR THE BOTTOM FLOOR? SHOULD THAT NOT GO OVER TO THE SECOND MOTION? UH, WELL, REMEMBER YOU GOTTA HAVE YOUR SOLID FOUNDATION TO CARRY THE WEIGHT.

SO IT'S GOTTA, AND THEN YOU GOTTA HAVE A BEEFER STRUCTURE TO CARRY THE SECOND FLOOR.

SO IF YOU PUT THAT IN THERE AND THEY'RE NOT COMPLYING AND THEY LEAVE THE FOUNDATION OR THE FIRST FLOOR, THEY'RE NOT DOING WHAT THE REQUIREMENT IS.

SO YOU THINK IT'LL BE COVERED.

AND IF, YEAH, THE SECOND FLOOR, BECAUSE CODE GOES OUT THERE FOR A REASON AND THEY, LIKE, THEY CAN'T TEAR A WALL, THEY CAN ONLY SEE WHAT'S IN THE FOUR CORNERS HERE.

THE INSPECTORS WILL GO OUT THERE AND DO THEIR JOB.

BUT CODE IS THE ONE THAT, THIS WAY THEY CAN'T DO WHAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING.

WE PUT TEETH IN IT, WHICH IS WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTED.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING.

AND IT SENDS A CLEAR MESSAGE TO ANYBODY ELSE.

I I, I JUST WANNA REMIND YOU THAT THERE'S PEOPLE LIVING IN THERE RIGHT NOW.

SO, UM, IF THE OWNER WANTS TO DO STUFF LIKE THIS AND HAVE PEOPLE LIVING IN THE PROPERTY, THEY NEED TO BE RESPONSIBLE.

UM, UH, I I DO WANNA ASK THAT YOU READ THAT YOU READ THE, UM, READ IT OUT AGAIN JUST BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATION.

I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO GET CONFUSED.

I WILL, I WILL DO THAT.

THANK YOU .

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? THE MOTION FOR US AT THE PRESENT TIME IS THAT THE, UH, PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4 23 MILLWOOD LANE, UH, IS IN VIOLATION OF SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE SECTIONS 3 0 4 2 3 0 4 3 0 4 0.630 4.730 4.9304 POINT TEN THREE OH FOUR POINT 12 3 0 4 0.13, THAT THE PROPERTY REMAINS IN VIOLATION AND THE PROPERTY IS TO BE REPAIRED, UH, IN 60 DAYS, UH, WITH ALL PERMITS DRAWN BEFORE IT HAPPENS.

AND THE WORK ORDER OR THE STOP WORK ORDER MUST BE ENFORCED.

UH, AND THAT THERE WILL BE A FOLLOW UP WITH CODE EVERY 15 DAYS.

AND THAT AFTER THE 60 DAYS OF REPAIR, THERE'S A $500, UH, FINE FOR FAILURE TO COMPLETE THE REPAIRS.

ANY QUESTIONS? ANY DISCUSSION? ROLL CALL PLEASE.

DWAYNE NELSON.

AYE.

BRETT ANDIS.

AYE.

JOEL SOLI.

AYE.

DR. LINDA LOPEZ.

RODRIGUEZ.

AYE.

THOMAS FRANKS? NO.

DORA SOLI ABSTAIN.

GEORGE GRIMES AYE.

AND KAYLA MIRANDA.

AYE.

MOTION PASSES WITH A VOTE OF 6 2 1 2 1.

MOTION PASSES.

WE HAVE A SECOND MOTION.

YES.

GO AHEAD WITH YOUR SECOND MOTION PLEASE.

I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4 23 MILLWOOD LANE WAS IN VIOLATION OF SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE, UH, SECTIONS 5 0 6 0.2 AND 6 0 4 0.3 ON MARCH 1ST, 2024.

AND IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE.

I ALSO FIND THAT THE PROPERTY REMAINS IN VIOLATION.

UH, THE WORK ORDER, UM, IS TO BE ENFORCED AND REPAIRS ARE TO BE MADE WITHIN THIRD, UH, UM, EXCUSE ME, 60 DAYS, UM, TO, AND, UM, VACATE THE SECOND FLOOR.

UH, AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET SERVICES, UH, IF IT'S PEOPLE LIVING UP THERE, SERVICES FOR THE TENANTS BEING, UH, VACATED.

DO YOU WANT TO INCLUDE IN THAT THE FINES AS WELL AS THE INSPECTION? YES.

OKAY.

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UM, THE, UH, AFTER 60 DAYS, IF IT'S STILL IN VIOLATION, $500 A WEEK AND, UM, INSPECTION OR INSPECTIONS BY, UH, CODE EVERY 15 DAYS, THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4 23 OF MILLWOOD LANE.

UH, IT IS IN VIOLATION OF SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE, UH, CODES 5 0 6 0.2 AND 6 0 4 0.3.

AND THAT THE PROPERTY IS TO BE RE THE WORK ORDERS ARE TO BE ENFORCED.

ALL PERMITS ARE TO BE DRAWN.

REPAIRS ARE TO BE COMPLETED IN 60 DAYS.

THE BUILDING IS TO BE VACATED.

CODE ENFORCEMENT WILL FOLLOW UP EVERY 15 DAYS AND AFTER THE 60 DAYS, $50 PER WEEK, UH, FINE FOR FAILURE TO COMPLETE THE WORK.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? LEMME, CAN I ASK A QUESTION REAL QUICK? SURE.

BEFORE WE SECOND IT, PLEASE.

AND I KNOW IT DID, AND THIS IS FOR CODE.

UM, I I'M SORRY.

WE NEED TO SECOND IT BEFORE WE DISCUSS IT UNLESS YOU'RE ASKING WELL, YEAH, BECAUSE I, UM, I THINK THERE'S A MISCONCEPTION HERE AND I WANT TO GET IT CLARIFIED.

RIGHT.

WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE JUST NEED IT SECONDED SO WE CAN DISCUSS IT, SECONDED AND CLARIFIED.

'CAUSE IT MIGHT BE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO IT.

THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THE CLAR.

YOU CAN ADD THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT AFTERWARDS.

OKAY.

I SECOND IT.

SO NOW I CAN ASK THE QUESTION.

YES.

OKAY.

TO CODE.

WHEN YOU GAVE THE PRESENTATION WHERE W YOU SAID THERE WAS POURED CONCRETE, THE SECOND FLOOR WAS ADDED, WAS NOT THE FIRST FLOOR ADDED TWO UNDER THAT NEW, UH, THE WHOLE STRUCTURE'S NEW, CORRECT.

OR DID I MISHEAR THAT? THE FIRST FLOOR IS THE ORIGINAL HOUSE.

IT WAS A SINGLE STORY STRUCTURE.

THE SECOND FLOOR IS THE ADDITION THAT WAS ADDED THAT THE CODE OFFICER WROTE UP THE VIOLATIONS FOR.

OKAY, BUT THEY DIDN'T MODIFY THE FIRST FLOOR.

THERE WAS NO, WHEN THEY ADDED, THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE.

THEY JUST TOOK THE ROOF OFF.

THEY JUST PUT THIS ADDITION ON TOP OF THE ROOF OF THE FIRST FLOOR.

THE ROOF OF THE FIRST FLOOR.

YEAH.

SO THERE'S INADEQUATE.

OKAY, THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THAT.

SO WE'RE VACATING THE WHOLE HOUSE.

IS THAT WHAT WE JUST SAID? THE VACATE PROPOSAL THAT I MADE ORIGINALLY, AND I THINK THAT SHE ACCEPTED WAS TO VACATE SECOND FLOOR ONLY THE NEW CONSTRUCTION THEY DID UP ON TOP.

BUT WOULD THAT NOT AFFECT THE FLOOR BELOW IT? THIS IS LEGAL.

IT WOULD.

UM, AND I DO BELIEVE, AND I I I WANT TO CORRECT MYSELF.

I DO BELIEVE THAT I HAD STATED, HEY, LET'S KEEP ANY VACATE TO THE SECOND FLOOR.

TWO PROBLEMS WITH THAT.

THAT'S NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO BE ENFORCED UHUH.

SECOND, UM, THE ELECTRICAL ISSUES, UM, ALONG WITH THE PLUMBING ISSUES, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE, THERE ARE GOING TO, THEY'RE NOT SOLELY GOING TO AFFECT THE SECOND FLOOR.

UM, EVEN THOUGH THAT THOSE WERE A LOT OF THE IMPROPER INSTALLATIONS HAPPENING, IT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE ENTIRE BUILDING.

UM, SO WHILE YES, I I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE RELYING ON YOUR, YOUR LEGAL, UM, UM, ADVICE.

I'D LIKE TO, I'D LIKE TO MODIFY IT.

I DON'T, I THINK IN WANTING TO MAKE SURE WE ARE BEING SAFE, UH, THIS BOARD CAN ORDER IF THEY CHOOSE TO, UM, VACATE THE ENTIRE BUILDING, WHICH IS WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER.

UH, OKAY.

AND THAT'S WHY I GO BACK TO THAT.

'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT HE SAID EARLIER IS VACATE THE WHOLE BUILDING BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST A PARTIAL ISSUE.

THAT'S CORRECT.

IT IS NOT DONE RIGHT LOAD WISE.

SO IF THEY'RE IN THAT UNDER WHATEVER ROOM IT IS, IT COMES DOWN, THEY'RE IN THE HOUSE AND THE WIRE, THE WIRES AREN'T STAYING INTACT.

THAT'S CORRECT.

AND IN ORDER TO SEE THAT, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE THE OPEN WALLS.

THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THAT BECAUSE IT'S AN AMENDMENT TO, TO THAT.

AND I I, THAT'S WHAT I HEARD AT FIRST.

THAT'S SO WE, WE CAN GO AND AMEND TO THE FULL HOUSE 'CAUSE OF THE ELECTRICAL HAZARDS.

AND WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE? STRUCTURAL MEMBERS STRUCTURE.

YEAH.

OKAY.

AND THAT COVERS EVERYTHING IN THE FRONT EXCEPT THE VACATE.

WE, IT WAS THE SAME ORDER AND KAYLA'S MOTION.

SHE UNDERSTOOD THAT.

YEAH, I, THE CHAIR DID NOT UNDERSTAND THAT.

AND YOU SECONDED A VACATE.

I I SECOND IT.

AND, AND IS THAT CORRECT? AND WE'RE IN DEBATE.

SO I WANT TO ASK YOU ARE ADDING THE $500 THE SAME AS I DID EARLIER, SO THAT'S A THOUSAND DOLLARS FINE PER WEEK.

CORRECT.

NOW, I DIDN'T SAY IT EARLIER, BUT REMEMBER THERE'S TWO OFFENSES.

WELL, THERE'S ACTUALLY 10 OFFENSES.

SO WE WANNA LEAVE IT AS A WHOLE, RIGHT? OR DO WE WANNA BREAK IT PER OFFENSE? THAT'S NOT FIXED.

I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THAT EARLIER.

BUT WE CAN DO THIS ONE PER OFFENSE OR LEAVE IT AS IS.

AND IT, UH, LEGAL, WOULD IT BE PER OFFENSE

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OR WOULD IT BE A WHOLE AS A WHOLE PER OFFENSE? I, I DO WANNA MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT.

FOR INSTANCE, THE, THE MOTION THAT WE JUST DID, IF ONE OF THOSE, UH, ENUMERATED THINGS IS NOT DONE, IT'S CONSIDERED TO BE IN VIOLATION.

IF THEY ALL AREN'T DONE, IT'S STILL TO BE CONSIDERED A VIOLATION.

SO IT'S NOT GONNA BE PER SECTION OR PER OFFENSE.

OKAY.

BUT IT WOULD BE PER ORDER.

PER ORDER.

SO, UM, AS OF RIGHT NOW, IF THIS, IF THIS BOARD ACCEPTS AND, AND, AND, AND APPROVES AND RULES IN FAVOR OF THE, UH, THE MOTION THAT'S, UH, ON THE TABLE NOW, IT WOULD END UP BEING A THOUSAND DOLLARS PER WEEK IF THE VIOLATIONS ARE NOT DONE.

AND THE REASON I SAID THAT IS 'CAUSE WHEN WE HAD SOME OTHERS, WE DID IT PER OFFENSE.

REMEMBER THE APARTMENTS? YEAH.

BUT WE SPECIFICALLY STATED PER OFFENSE.

SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I, I STATED IT RIGHT AND WE WERE ON THE SAME PAGE.

THERE IS IS COVERS ALL OF THE OFFENSES PER WEEK.

RIGHT? OKAY.

YEAH.

NO, I, ON, ON MULTIFAMILY WE SPECIFICALLY, YEAH.

SO WE'VE DONE IT BEFORE WHERE WE HAVE DONE EACH OF EACH NON-COMP COMPLY.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

GOOD.

WE'RE DONE.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? YEAH, JOEL? YEAH.

I REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, UH, ADDING ANOTHER $500, UH, FINE TO THIS.

WE ALREADY COVERED WHAT WITH THE, THE FIRST MOTION.

AND WHAT WE'RE REALLY WANTING TO DO HERE IS, IS GET THE REPAIRS DONE, UH, SINCE THE BUILDING'S GONNA BE VACATED, UH, THERE'S NO, UH, CONCERN ABOUT OTHER RESIDENTS BEING IN, IN THE BUILDING THAT, UH, BE LIKELY, UM, SUBJECTED TO ANY HARM, UH, SHOULD THAT SECOND FLOOR FALL.

MY REBUTTAL DON'T AGREE TO THAT.

MY REBUTTAL IS, IS IF YOU TACK THAT MONEY ON, THAT'S GONNA MAKE THEM DO A DO IT WITHIN THE 60 DAYS SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY TO FIND.

THAT'S THE PURPOSE IS TRY TO GET 'EM TO DO IT WITHIN THE 60 DAYS SO THEY DON'T HAVE THAT ADDITIONAL A THOUSAND DOLLARS FINE.

THAT'S THE WAY I'M LOOKING AT IT.

I, I, I AGREE.

UM, WE HAVE SEEN CONSISTENTLY OVER AND OVER CODE HAVE BEEN GOING OUT AND THEY'VE BEEN TOLD TO STOP WORKING.

THEY'VE BEEN TOLD THEY NEEDED PERMITS AND THEY'RE JUST LIKE IGNORING THEM.

LIKE THEY'RE JUST GONNA KEEP WORKING AND KEEP DOING IT.

AND I MEAN, MY BIGGEST PROBLEM IS PEOPLE BEING IN THE BUILDING.

AND WHAT IF IT'S NOT DONE CORRECTLY AND IT ALL FALLS DOWN AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE ARE HURT OR WORSE? UM, FIRE AND, AND I, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T ASK FOR FINES, INITIAL FINES TODAY, IT'S AFTER 60 DAYS, SO THAT'S GIVING, YOU KNOW, 60 DAYS TO COMING TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE PERMITS AND TO WORK ON THESE.

SO I FEEL THAT IT'S FAIR.

OKAY, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS THAT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4 23, UH, UH, WILLOW WOOD LANE WAS IN VIOLATION OF SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODES 5 0 6 0.2 AND 6 0 4 0.3.

UH, AND THE, UH, PROPERTY REMAINS IN VIOLATION.

THE PROPERTY IS TO BE REPAIRED IN 60 DAYS WITH ALL WORK, UH, STOP WORK ENFORCED UNTIL PERMITS ARE DRAWN THAT THERE WILL BE A VACATE ORDER FOR THE ENTIRE STRUCTURE.

THAT THERE WILL BE A INSPECTION EVERY 15 DAYS BY CODE OFFICER AND THAT THERE WILL BE A FINE, UH, OF $500 PER WEEK AFTER THE 60 DAYS FOR FAILURE TO COMPLETE MOTION HAS BEEN SECONDED.

DISCUSSIONS COMPLETE ROLL CALL PLEASE.

JOY NELSON.

AYE.

BRETT ANDIS.

AYE.

JOELLE SOLIS.

AYE.

DR. LINDA LOPEZ.

RODRIGUEZ AYE.

THOMAS FRANKS? NO.

DORA SOLIS ABSTAIN.

GEORGE GRIMES AYE.

CA MIRANDA AYE.

MOTION PASSES WITH THE VOTE OF 6 2 1 2 1.

THANK YOU.

OUR FINAL PROPERTY IS GONNA BE 7 38 LINCOLNSHIRE DRIVE.

GOOD MORNING BOARD.

GOOD MORNING FOR THE RECORD.

MY NAME IS CHRISTOPHER DOMINGUEZ, DANGEROUS PREMISE OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO DEVELOPMENT SERVICE DEPARTMENT STRUCTURE BEING PRESENTED TODAY IS LOCATED AT 7 38 LINCOLN SHIRE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 2 0 WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR DEMOLITION IN ACCORDANCE WITH CITY CODE ARTICLE EIGHT.

CHAPTER SIX.

THIS CASE IS THE FIRST TIME BEING HEARD BEFORE THIS BOARD.

THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION IS NCB 1 0 7 1 9 BLOCK THREE EIGHT LOT 10, LOCATED IN CITY CONSOLE DISTRICT TWO.

THE OWNER ON RECORD IS STILLMAN

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AND AR JACKSON WITH A MAILING ADDRESS OF 7 38 LINCOLN SHIRE DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 2 0.

ALL NOTICES OF HEARING WERE PROPERLY ISSUED AS REQUIRED.

THE OWNER ON RECORD IS NOT PRESENT TODAY.

DOES THE BOARD WISH TO PROCEED? YES, PLEASE.

THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION HAS CONFIRMED ON FEBRUARY 20TH, 2024.

THE PROPERTY IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR HISTORIC DESIGNATION.

THE FIRST INSPECTION REGARDING 7 38 LINCOLNSHIRE WAS CONDUCTED ON MARCH 30TH, 2023.

ORIGINAL NOTICE WAS MAILED ON APRIL 4TH, 2023 AND THE CERTIFIED RECEIPT WAS RETURNED UNCLAIMED ON APRIL 26TH, 2023 ON MARCH 28TH, 2024.

THE NOTICE FOR THE BSB HEARING WAS POSTED AT 7 38 LINCOLNSHIRE ON APRIL 11TH, 2024.

THE NOTICE FOR THE BSB HEARING WAS MAILED TO THE OWNER AND THE CERTIFIED RECEIPT HAS NOT BEEN RETURNED.

NO SCOPE OF WORK OR FINANCIAL PROOF OR LETTER OF CREDIT OR ENGINEER'S REPORT HAS BEEN PROVIDED AS OF APRIL 10TH, 2024.

THERE ARE NO PERMITS ON FILE FOR 7 38 LINCOLNSHIRE.

MARTIN LUTHER KING JUNIOR ACADEMY IS WITHIN 1000 FEET OF 7 38 LINCOLNSHIRE.

THE PHOTOS THAT ARE BEING PROVIDED FOR TODAY'S PRESENTATION WERE TAKEN ON AUGUST 9TH, 2023, MARCH 12TH, 2024 AND APRIL 8TH, 2024.

PHOTO PRESENTATION CONSISTS OF A VACANT RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE AND, AND DILAPIDATED AND NEGLECTED CONDITION.

7 38 LINCOLN SHIRE IS A VACANT SINGLE STORY STRUCTURE.

700 SQUARE FEET WAS BUILT IN 1956.

STRUCTURE HAS BEEN NEGLECTED.

FOUNDATION HAS MOVEMENT.

ROOF IS WORN AND SAGGING AND EXTERIOR SIDING IS ROTTING.

BE.

NEXT PHOTO PLEASE.

BESIDES STRUCTURAL CONCERNS TO THE STRUCTURE, ACTION HAS BEEN TAKEN TO THE PROPERTY TO HAVE TWO DEAD TREES REMOVED.

THIS PHOTO WAS TAKEN IN AUGUST OF 2023 OF 2023.

THIS DEAD TREE WAS RESTING ON THE STRUCTURE AND THE NEXT PHOTO IS DUE TO LOCATION, SIZE, AND CONDITION OF THIS TREE REMOVAL WAS NECESSARY TO ABATE FOR LIKELIHOOD OF DAMAGE TO PROPERTY AND POSSIBLE INJURY.

NEXT PHOTO IS GONNA BE AT THE FRONT OF THE STRUCTURE.

THE STRUCTURE HELD ITSELF HAS PAINT THAT IS CHIPPING AND WOOD MEMBERS MISSING SUPPORT.

COLUMN OF THE PORCH IS LEANING TO THE RIGHT SIDING THAT IS MISSING TO THE RIGHT OF THE PORCH.

LAP SHOWS A FOUNDATION BEAM SITTING ON GRADE.

NEXT ONE IS BE TO THE RIGHT OF THAT UNDERNEATH THE WINDOW.

THE DECKER OF WINDOW SHUTTER HAS ATTACHED TRIM AROUND THE WINDOW IS SEPARATING AND WINDOW SILL IS SEVERELY ROTTED.

NEXT PHOTO IS GONNA BE TO THE LEFT SIDE OF THE STRUCTURE.

WINDOWS ARE BROKEN, BUT THESE TWO WINDOWS HAVE BEEN SECURED FROM THE INTERIOR.

NEXT PHOTO IS GONNA BE OF THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE STRUCTURE.

RIGHT SIDE OF THE STRUCTURE IS CONSISTENT WITH PAINT CHIMPING AND SKIRTING MISSING THAT GRADE.

THERE'S A SEC.

THERE'S A SECURED IN ENTRANCE LOCATED BEHIND THE TREE LIMBS.

IT WAS SECURED TO STOP VACANTS FROM ENTER, ENTERING AND EXITING THE STRUCTURE.

NEXT PHOTO IS GONNA BE AT THE REAR OF THE STRUCTURE.

REAR OF THE STRUCTURE IS LACKING PROTECTIVE COVERING AND SKIRTING IS COMPLETELY MISSING.

NEXT PHOTO IS GONNA BE TAKEN RIGHT BEHIND THAT TREE.

THIS PHOTO IS TAKEN UNDERNEATH THE RESTROOM.

SUBFLOOR IS DAMAGED AND FLOOR JOISTS IS CRACKED.

NEXT PHOTO IS GONNA LEAD TO THE INTERIOR OF THE STRUCTURE.

MY FIRST INTERIOR PHOTO IS TAKEN FROM THE FRONT ENTRANCE.

ELECTRICAL WIRES IS HANGING EXPOSED.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADVISE THE BOARD AT THIS TIME THAT THERE IS NO ACTIVE ELECTRICAL SERVICE.

SHEET ROCK IS DAMAGED ON WALLS AND MISSING ON CEILING.

NEXT PHOTO IS GONNA BE TAKEN TO THE RIGHT.

THERE'S ACCUMULATION OF TRASH AND DEBRIS AND THAT ENTRANCE THAT LEADS THAT ENTRANCE IN THE REAR.

THAT OPENING LEADS TO, UH, LEADS TO THE KITCHEN AREA.

NEXT HOLE IS GONNA BE OF THE CEILING AREA.

LARGE AREA OF SHEET ROCK IS MISSING AND THE SHEET ROCK THAT IS REMAINING IS IN PROCESS OF COLLAPSING.

NEXT PHOTO IS GONNA BE OF THE KITCHEN AREA.

KITCHEN AREA IS SMALL, HOWEVER, THERE'S NO CLEAR WALKING SERVICE AVAILABLE.

WATER HEATER THAT WAS LOCATED IN THE CORNER HAS BEEN REMOVED AND IS NOW ON THE FLOOR UNDERNEATH THE PLYWOOD.

NEXT PHOTO IS GONNA BE OF THE RESTROOM AREA.

TUB.

TUB HAS BEEN REMOVED.

TOILET AND SINK HAVE BEEN DISCONNECTED.

SUBFLOOR IS MISSING AND DAMAGED.

NEXT FOOT IS GONNA LEAD TO THE FRONT BEDROOM OF THE STRUCTURE.

IT'S A SMALL STRUCTURE, BUT THE F THE FRONT BEDROOM, SHEETROCK, HAS, HAS COMPLETELY COLLAPSED FROM THE CEILING.

THE NEXT PHOTO IS JUST GONNA BE OF THE LAST REAR BEDROOM.

WE HAVE HAD SOME PROBLEMS WITH VAGRANT ENTERING AND EXITING THE STRUCTURE.

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THIS IS A SINGLE STORY, RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE AND DILAPIDATED CONDITION.

STRUCTURED HAS FOUNDATION MOVEMENT AND SINKING INWARD ROOF'S SYSTEM HAS A SA, HAS A SAG ALONG WITH WORN SHINGLES INTERIOR.

THE STRUCTURE HAS SHEET ROCK THAT IS DAMAGED AND MISSING.

RESTROOM OF THE STRUCTURE HAS BEEN DE DESTROYED AND LARGE OPEN IS NOW OPEN DUE TO THE TUB BEING REMOVED.

THE STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 7 38 LINCOLN SHIRE IS IN VIOLATION OF CITY CODE ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER SIX DASH 1 56.

SUBSECTIONS 1 2 5 7 8, 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18 IN WHICH ANY BUILDING OR STRUCTURE, WHICH HAS ANY OR ALL OF THE CONDITIONS OR DEFECTS HEREIN AFTER DESCRIBED, SHALL BE DEEMED TO BE A DANGEROUS BUILDING AND A HAZARD OF PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE.

PROVIDED THAT SUCH CONDITIONS OF DEFECTS OF DILAPIDATION, SUBSTANDARD, OR UNFITNESS FOR HUMAN IN HABITATION POSE A THREAT OR A POTENTIAL THREAT TO LIVE HEALTH, PROPERTY OR HUMAN SAFETY STAFF RECOMMENDS DEMOLITION.

THAT INCLUDES MY PRESENTATION OF 7 38 LINCOLNSHIRE.

THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS TO THE CODE OFFICER? I, I DO.

UM, SORRY, HOLD ON.

GO AHEAD.

KEN.

WAS THIS EVER RECOMMENDED TO TO THE VACANT BUILDING PROGRAM? YES MA'AM.

IT WAS.

UH, I DON'T HAVE THE CORRECT DATE ON IT, BUT, UM, IT WAS SENT THROUGH THE VACANT BUILDING PROGRAM AND IT DOES ACTUALLY QUALIFY UNDER THE VACANT BUILDING PROGRAM.

AND DID YOU GET ANY TYPE OF RESPONSE OR ANYTHING? YES MA'AM.

THEY STATED THEIR RESPONSE WAS BACK IN FEBRUARY 20TH, 2004 THAT THE PROPERTY WAS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR HISTORIC DESIGNATION.

AND A LOT OF FEEDBACK THAT GOES WITH THAT IS SOMETIMES THEY HAD, THEY HAD NO, UH, THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO MAKE CONTACT WITH OWNERSHIP AS WELL, UM, AS ANOTHER PROCESS AND THEY LET IT GO TO US.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

CHAIR WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I CAN DO IT.

GO AHEAD.

YOU KNOW THAT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 7 38 LINCOLNSHIRE DRIVE IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE, WHICH IS NOT FEASIBLE TO BE REPAIRED AT THIS TIME AND IS IN VIOLATION OF CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION 1 56 ITEMS, UH, CODE ITEMS 1, 2 5 7 8, 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18.

I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY BE DEMOLISHED WITHIN 30 DAYS THAT THE PROPERTY BE SECURED, UH, FROM THE ISSUANCE OF THIS ORDER.

THE MOTION BEFORE THE BOARD IS THAT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 7 38 LINCOLNSHIRE IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE AND NOT FEASIBLE BEING REPAIRED AT THIS TIME AND IS IN VIOLATION OF CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION 1 5 6 SUB CODES 1 12 5 7 8, 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18, THAT THE BUILDING SHOULD BE DEMOLISHED IN 30 DAYS AND SHOULD BE SECURED.

DO I HAVE A SECOND MR. CHAIRMAN? MRS. THOMAS FRANKS.

I SECOND.

I SECOND FOR MR. FRANKS.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY.

THOSE ABSTAINED.

AYE.

ONE ADMINISTRATIVE ISSUES.

UM, I I I WANNA ASK A QUESTION AND I KNOW IT'S, WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS, I DON'T REMEMBER IF I'VE EVER ASKED IT.

IT'S ON THE BRIEFINGS THAT STAFF DOES, ACCORDING TO THE AGENDA.

IT'S NOT ON HERE FOR THE STAFF BRIEFINGS.

IS THAT GONNA, IS THAT, DOES THAT FALL UNDER BRIEFING AND, OR IS, ISN'T THAT SUPPOSED TO BE A SEPARATE PIECE ON THE ITEM SINCE IT SAYS AN OPEN HEARINGS ACT? NO, SIR.

WE, WE'VE ALWAYS HAD IT UNDER THE BRIEFING AND POSSIBLE ACTION.

OKAY.

ON THE FOLLOWING ITEMS, WELL, WE COVERED UNDER THAT.

YEAH.

THEY'RE LISTED FOR THE ITEM PULLED TODAY, FOR EXAMPLE, AND THEN THE EMERGENCY THAT WAS, UH, READ INTO THE RECORD.

IT'S JUST NOTATED, UM, IN PARENTHESES WHAT THEY'RE GONNA BE LISTED AS.

BUT WE WE GROUP 'EM ALL TOGETHER.

OKAY.

YEAH, BECAUSE IT INTRODUCES STAFF BRIEFING, BUT IT'S NOT IN, ONCE YOU POST IT, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE, YOU KNOW HOW THE OPENS ACT IS AND IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE LISTED ALRIGHT.

BUT IT FALLS UNDER BRIEFING.

THANK YOU.

GO.

YEAH.

THIS IS, UM, REALLY THE FIRST TIME I HEARD ABOUT THE VACANT BUILDING PROGRAM.

IF WE CAN GET A LITTLE, UH, MORE INFORMATION ABOUT IT.

THE SCOPE OF WHAT IT DOES, UH, CERTAINLY WOULD BE VERY WELCOMED AT LEAST BY THIS BOARD MEMBER.

MEMBER.

YOU DID NOT GET THAT IN YOUR TRAINING, HUH? NO.

WHAT? NO, HE WAS GOING FOR OFFICE WHEN HE LEFT.

OH.

BAD .

SO WE CAN, WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT.

I MEAN, WE,

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WE DID BRING OHP OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION TO PRESENT TO THE BOARD JUST RECENTLY, SEVERAL MONTHS AGO.

I BELIEVE THEY CAME AND PRESENTED.

BUT IF YOU MISSED IT, WE CAN DO ONE-ON-ONE OR, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

'CAUSE I DON'T WANNA BORE THE BOARD WITH ATTENDING THE SAME ONE UNLESS THEY WANT TO.

IF YOU WANT IT, WE CAN.

YEAH.

BRING THEM BACK.

BRING THEM BACK EVERYBODY.

YEAH.

THIS IS THOMAS FRANKS BECAUSE OF, UH, AND I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT OHP TODAY, EVEN THOUGH IT'S WRITTEN DOWN.

I GOT FIVE OF 'EM.

UM, THEY WERE GONNA COME TO THE FULL BOARD MEETING.

'CAUSE I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS WITH OHP ESPECIALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE THE CASE WE HAD, UM, JUST HAD, I THINK IT WAS FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS IT WENT WHEN SUBMITTED TO OHP TO WIN DSD GOT THE FINAL CLEAR.

SO I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS TOO.

OKAY.

THE FULL BOARD MEETING IS IN MAY, RIGHT? MAY 16TH.

YES.

YES SIR.

YES.

THIRD.

SO WE CAN, WE CAN BRING OHP AT THAT TIME.

SO JUST BE READY TO STAY HERE ALL DAY.

? UH, NO, WE HAVE, UH, THOMAS, THOMAS HAS A LOT OF, HAVE QUESTIONS.

THAT'S WHY I'M NOT SAYING OHP AMIR.

WE HAVE TIMERS, 10 MINUTE TIMERS, JUST SO YOU KNOW THAT ALONG WITH THE DART PRESENTATION, WE MIGHT NEED A LIKE LATE AFTERNOON SNACK OR SOMETHING.

THREE MINUTES.

I'M KIDDING.

I THINK SORT.

WELL WE GET A LUNCH, SO WE'RE GOOD TO GO.

JODY PLANNED FOR DINNER THAT DAY.

THOMAS HAS A LOT OF QUESTIONS, BUT WE'RE GONNA GIVE HIM ONLY THREE MINUTES, SO THAT'S OKAY.

, WAIT, I'LL TAKE THE THREE MINUTES.

IF FRED CAN ONLY ANSWER THREE QUESTIONS, .

OKAY.

BUT I GET SIX MINUTES TO ANSWER EACH QUESTION.

OH NO.

OH MY.

HE CAN'T DO BACK.

NO.

ALL RIGHT.

BACK TO YOU.

CHAIR RECOGNIZES ME.

ALRIGHT, SO, UM, I'M JUST GONNA TAKE A FEW MINUTES IF YOU DON'T MIND, CHAIR.

UM, PLEASE.

I BELIEVE DANNY LIGA DID PRESENT LAST, UH, BO LAST PANEL, UH, TALKED ABOUT THIS.

SO FIRST OF ALL, I MEAN, THANK YOU ALL FOR AGAIN, VOLUNTEERING YOUR TIME AND HELPING US AND HELPING THE CITY WITH THESE TOUGH DECISIONS.

SO AGAIN, WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

UH, SOME OF YOU, OR MOST OF YOU WERE HERE LAST YEAR AND, UH, WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE CODE ADOPTION, ONE OF THE TASKS WE ASK YOU TO HELP US WITH IS REVIEWING THE NEW CODES AND POTENTIALLY LOOKING AT IF WE NEED AMENDMENTS OR NOT, OR MODIFYING THE AMENDMENTS WE HAVE AND ALL THAT.

AND COMING UP WITH A POTENTIALLY NEW CODE.

SO WE DID THAT LAST, LAST YEAR.

AND, UH, THIS WAS ACTUALLY THE FIRST YEAR WE, WE'VE DONE THAT LAST YEAR WHERE WE ALLOWED FOR, WE CALL IT NON APPOINTED MEMBERS, BASICALLY TO BE PART OF THAT SUBCOMMITTEE TO REVIEW THE CODES.

WHAT THAT MEANS IS ALL OF YOU ARE APPOINTED BY COUNCIL TO BE ON THIS BOARD.

LAST YEAR, WE WANTED TO BRING, UH, ADDITIONAL PEOPLE AND BRING BASICALLY THE COMMUNITY TO GET THEIR FEEDBACK AS WELL.

SO IN OTHER CODES IN CHAPTER 10, THAT IS FOR THE BUILDING RELATED CODES, NOT THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE, NOT CHAPTER SIX.

BASICALLY WE HAVE THAT IN THE CODE WHERE WE CAN ALLOW FOUR NON APPOINTED MEMBERS TO ATTEND THOSE SUBCOMMITTEES.

SO WE KIND OF UTILIZED THAT CODE LAST YEAR AND DID THAT, WE RECEIVED A LOT OF COMPLAINTS DURING AND AFTER THE FACT, UH, BASICALLY STATING THAT IF I'M A CITIZEN AND I AM ON THOSE MEETINGS AND ATTENDING THE MEETINGS, I CANNOT VOTE BECAUSE, UH, THE CODE STATES THOSE NON APPOINTED MEMBERS, THEY CANNOT VOTE.

SO WE WANNA CORRECT THAT.

SO WHAT WE ARE DOING NOW IS WE ARE POTENTIALLY PROPOSING MODIFICATIONS TO CHAPTER 10 FOR THE BUILDING, BUT AS WELL AS CHAPTER SIX FOR THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE, THAT WE WILL ALLOW UP TO FOUR MAX, UM, NON APPOINTED MEMBERS TO BE APPOINTED BY THE CHAIR SLASH THE COMMITTEE.

NOT JUST THE CHAIR.

THE COMMITTEE NEEDS TO DECIDE WHO TO CHOOSE, UH, BUT THEY WILL HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO VOTE ON THAT SUBCOMMITTEE.

OKAY.

SO KEEP IN MIND, SO WHEN WE REVIEW CODES, I DON'T NEED ALL OF YOU TO ATTEND.

UH, THE SUBCOMMITTEE CANNOT HAVE MORE THAN SIX OF YOU BECAUSE THE MINUTE WE HAVE MORE THAN SIX, THEN WE CALL IT WALKING QUORUM, RIGHT? SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN TECHNICALLY IT'S ALMOST LIKE YOU GUYS ARE REVIEWING IT.

SO WHY TO EVEN DO SUBCOMMITTEE? SO THE SUBCOMMITTEE, UH, NORMALLY CAN HAVE MINIMUM FOUR APPOINTED MEMBERS UP TO SIX APPOINTED MEMBERS, AND THEN WE GONNA OPEN IT UP AGAIN FOR FOUR NON APPOINTED MEMBERS.

BUT THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE AND OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS.

UH, THEY NEED TO APPLY.

YOU WILL REVIEW THEIR APPLICATIONS.

YOU, IF YOU WANNA DO INTERVIEWS, YOU CAN.

WE DID THAT ACTUALLY LAST YEAR.

AND THEN YOU CHOOSE FOUR OF THEM, MAX FOUR, UM, TO, TO, TO BE PART OF IT.

BUT THEY WILL HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE.

AND AFTER THE SUBCOMMITTEE COMES UP WITH THE FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS, ALL THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS COME BACK TO THE FULL BOARD, AND THEN YOU WILL MAKE THE FINAL DETERMINATION AS FAR AS WHAT TO TAKE TO CANCEL.

AND THEN COUNCIL WILL MAKE THE FINAL DECISION AS WELL TO ADOPT THE CODE OR NOT WITH THE CHANGES.

SO,

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SO AGAIN, JUST A QUICK BRIEFING.

UM, WE HAD THE PROCESS.

WE ARE JUST KIND OF TWEAKING IT, CORRECTING IT TO MAKE SURE WE, WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ATTEND AND SPEND TIME WITH US.

THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE OTHERWISE WHY THEY'RE HERE.

GOOD.

JOEL.

QUESTIONS? YOU KNOW, IT, IT CERTAINLY DOES RAISE A QUESTION IF YOU ALLOW THEM TO VOTE.

I MEAN, UH, ALL OF US HERE AS BOARD MEMBERS, UH, WHAT WE DO FILL OUT A CONFLICT OF INTEREST WITH THE CITY.

UH, WE DON'T HAVE A REALLY A, A, A DOG IN THE FIGHT HERE, UH, WITH THE CODE.

AND SO WE CAN BE RATHER IMPARTIAL.

AND THEN WHEN WE HAD OTHERS COME ON AND, UH, UH, PROVIDE THEIR INPUT, IT WAS GREAT TO HEAR, UH, BUT WE WEREN'T CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT INTERESTS THEY WERE ACTUALLY REPRESENTING HERE.

AND SO I, I THINK IF YOU GO ON AND MAKE THEM A VOTING MEMBER, THEN WE SHOULD AT LEAST BE ABLE TO, TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST WITH THEM.

AND, UH, AND THAT INCLUDE THAT AS PART OF THE, UM, YEAH, THE, THE, THE RULES OF, OF ACCEPTING THEM ONTO THE, THE PANEL.

AND THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE AN ISSUE ACTUALLY OF, OF THE, I GUESS, OF THE EVALUATION OF THE CANDIDATES AS THEY'RE COMING IN.

BECAUSE WE DO HEAR THEM, FIRST OF ALL, WE HEAR THEM TESTIFY, UH, WE FIND OUT WHAT THEIR BACKGROUND IS LIKE.

UH, WE GET AT THE INFORMATION ON WHO THEY ARE REPRESENTING, IF THEY'RE REPRESENTING SOMEONE, UH, IN THAT.

AND THEN, UH, THE, THE BOARD ACTUALLY MAKES THE SELECTION OF WHO'S GONNA BE ON THE PANEL.

SO IF THE BOARD FEELS LIKE THERE IS SOMEONE WHO'S GOING TO BE NOT REPRESENTING THE CITY IN TOTAL AS OPPOSED TO REPRESENTING A, A CAUSE, UH, THEN THE BOARD WOULD HAVE TO DO, UH, CONSIDERATION AT THAT TIME.

SO IT BASICALLY IS DONE BY VIRTUE OF THE SELECTION OF THE COMMITTEE OR THE SUBCOMMITTEE.

I I, I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP THOSE, UH, ADDITIONAL FOUR FOR COMMUNITY.

THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF IT, IS TO HAVE COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT WOULD NOT NORMALLY BE APPOINTED TO BOARD POSITIONS HERE.

AS PART OF THAT CONVERSATION, I, I, I WAS A VICE CHAIR WITH, UH, CAPTAIN NELSON THERE ON THE S-A-P-M-C LAST TIME.

AND HAVING THE ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY AROUND WAS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

EVEN IF WE DON'T AGREE, THEY STILL HAVE A RIGHT TO HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY AND THEY CAN BRING, UH, BRING TO OUR ATTENTION ISSUES THAT WE WOULDN'T NORMALLY SEE AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE WOULDN'T NORMALLY HAVE.

SO MAKING SURE THAT THEY ARE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND NOT, YOU KNOW, CEOS OR REAL ESTATE OR SOMEBODY THAT'S GOING TO ALREADY BE HERE.

UH, UNDERSTOOD.

AND, UH, TO WHAT THE CHAIR MENTIONED, BASICALLY WHEN YOU REVIEW THE APPLICATIONS, YOU CAN MAKE THOSE DETERMINATIONS.

UH, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I MEAN, IF YOU HAVE A CEO WHO LIVES IN SAN ANTONIO AND INTERESTED IN THE CITY, IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY HAVE A, AN INTEREST.

AN INTEREST.

I MEAN, THEY HAVE INTEREST OF THE CITY.

IT COULD BE THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVING A JOB AS A CEO DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE NOT INTERESTED IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.

SO, I MEAN, IT'S A TOUGH, TOUGH THING TO DO, BUT I MEAN, DEFINITELY YOU HAVE TO REVIEW THE APPLICATIONS AND, AND, AND MAKE THOSE DETERMINATIONS.

NOW ONE OF THE THINGS WE GONNA ASK ANYBODY WHO IS SELECTED, WE NEED THEM TO GO THROUGH THE ETHICS, UH, BASICALLY.

SO AGAIN, IF THERE IS CONFLICT OF INTEREST, I SHOULD ABSTAIN OR SAY, HEY, I CAN'T DO IT.

I'M HOPING THEY, THEY'RE HONEST ENOUGH TO DO THAT.

BUT AGAIN, WE, WE HAVE SOME PROCESSES IN PLACE.

CAN WE GUARANTEE A HUNDRED PERCENT? NO.

BUT I THINK BETWEEN REVIEWING THE APPLICATIONS, TALKING TO THEM, DOING INTERVIEWS IF YOU NEED TO, UM, AND THE ETHICS, I THINK WE, WE WILL COVER ALL THAT.

UH, I GOTTA FOLLOW UP ON THAT BECAUSE COME TO THINK OF IT, THERE WAS SOME ISSUES THAT THEY FELT, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION ON THE CODES AND THEY ASKED IF THEY COULD HAVE A VIEW OF THAT.

'CAUSE THEY, WHEN WE WERE PRESENTING THE CODE, THEY WERE NOT AWARE OF THE, WHERE WE GOT, LIKE THE LAW, HOW IT PLAYS, BECAUSE THIS IS JUDICIAL.

THE CITY HAS A PIECE, BUT THE LAW HAS BECAUSE OF WHAT WE DO AND THEY WERE NOT AWARE OF SOME OF THAT STUFF.

SO WHEN YOU DO THE ETHICS, CAN THEY GET A BRIEFING OF, OR A, A BIG BROAD STROKE OF WHAT WE ACTUALLY DO AND WHAT THE CODE'S REALLY FOR.

'CAUSE THEY DIDN'T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN WE WOULD BRING THE CODE.

OKAY.

VALID POINT.

YES, WE, WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT.

YEP.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? GEORGE? GO AHEAD.

UH, JUST TO CLARIFY, THE, THIS COMMITTEE IS GONNA CONSIDER AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER SIX, CHAPTER 10? YES.

10 OR JUST 10? NO, JUST, JUST SIX.

SIX.

THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE SIX ONLY.

MM-HMM, .

OKAY.

WE JUST WHAT I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE UTILIZE WHAT WE HAVE IN CHAPTER 10, WHICH IS THE BUILDING RELATED CODES.

WE HAD THAT PROCESS THERE OUTLINED,

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ALLOWING US TO BRING FOUR, NONE APPOINTED NUMBERS WHO CANNOT VOTE.

WE USED THAT PROCESS LAST YEAR WITH THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE, ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT IN CHAPTER SIX, BUT NOW WE CAN WRITE IT THERE AND ALLOW THEM TO BE VOTING MEMBERS.

SORRY, I MISUNDERSTOOD.

NO, NO, THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD.

GOOD.

AND HOW, HOW FREQUENTLY IS THIS DONE? IS THIS DONE ANNUALLY? NO, NORMALLY, UH, WE, WE, WE UTILIZE THE INTERNATIONAL CODE CANCEL CODES AND THEY ADOPT THEM EVERY THREE YEARS.

UH, WE DID THIS LAST YEAR BECAUSE OF COVID, SO WE KIND OF HELD OFF A LITTLE BIT, BUT NORMALLY IT'S EVERY THREE YEARS.

THE GOOD SLASH BAD NEWS, I WANNA TELL YOU, WE WANT TO ACTUALLY REVIEW THE 2024 CODES, UH, SOON.

SO BASICALLY, ALTHOUGH WE DID LAST YEAR BEST, WE, WE, WHEN WE REVIEWED LAST YEAR, WE WERE REVIEWING THE 2021 CODE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE REVIEWED AROUND MID TO LATE 2020 TO ADOPT IN 21.

BUT WE DID HOLD OFF DUE TO COVID AND ALL THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR THOSE, UH, MEETINGS, YOU PHYSICALLY NEED TO BE HERE.

IT'S HARD TO DO WEBEX AND LOOKING AT THE CODE AND, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSING AND NEGOTIATING.

SO WE, WE WERE NOT DOING IN-PERSON MEETINGS, SO WE KIND OF HELD OFF ON THAT.

AND UNTIL WE SAID, OKAY, NOW IT'S SAFE, EVERYBODY CAN COME AND, UH, BUT THE 2024 CODES ARE OUT NOW.

SO POTENTIALLY WE GONNA ORDER THE BOOKS AND ALL THAT AND POTENTIALLY START THAT PROCESS SOON.

SO SORRY FOR THAT.

THAT'S A LITTLE BIT SHORTER THAN THE THREE YEARS, BUT IN GENERAL, IT'S ONCE EVERY THREE YEARS.

SO THIS, THESE AMENDMENTS ARE TRIGGERED BY THE ADOPTION OF A NEW INTERNATIONAL CODE? WELL, IT GOES TO INTERNATIONAL.

THE GOVERNMENT, FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WILL PICK IT UP.

THEY'LL MODIFY IT, IT'LL GO TO STATES, STATE WILL PICK IT UP, MODIFY THEIR VERSION OF IT, BUT IT ALL GOES BACK TO THAT INTERNATIONAL CODE.

THEN IT COMES TO THE CITIES, AND THE CITIES WILL PICK THEIR PIECES OUT, ELECTRIC, PLUMBING AND ALL.

AND THEN THEY'LL ADOPT THE PIECES THAT FIT THE CITY.

YEAH, LET ME JUST CORRECT THAT WITH THE INTERNATIONAL CODE, THAT IT'S ACTUALLY GOVERNMENT THAT'S INVOLVED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT CODE.

IT'S ACTUALLY INTERNATIONAL AND THEN IT GOES TO THE GOVERNMENT, CORRECT? RIGHT.

THERE IS A COMMITTEE THAT'S FROM ALL, ALL THOSE COUNTRIES.

THAT'S WHY IT'S CALLED INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE.

THAT'S NOT RIGHT.

YEAH, NO, IT IS.

RIGHT.

SO, SO LET, LET ME, I'M, I'M SORRY.

LET ME, LET ME JUMP IN.

THE, THE, THE QUESTION IS, I'M WANT TO CALL IT LOADED QUESTION, BUT , UM, SO, SO THE ICC, I CALL IT ICC, INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL.

BASICALLY IT'S A NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT IS HERE IN THE UNITED STATES.

AND THEY ARE NOT TIED IN WITH THE GOVERNMENT BY ANY MEANS.

IT'S NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION.

AGAIN, UM, THE, THE WAY THEY GOVERNMENT, IT'S NOT QUASI-GOVERNMENT.

CORRECT.

THE WAY THEY DO IT IS SIMILAR TO KIND OF WHAT WE DO ON SMALLER SCALE.

RIGHT? WHEN WE DO THOSE SUBCOMMITTEES TO REVIEW THE CODES, THEY REVIEW THE CODES AND THEY HAVE PUBLIC MEETINGS.

SO ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC CAN ATTEND.

ACTUALLY, I WAS THERE THIS WEEKEND FOR, FOR THAT.

UM, SO IN APRIL THEY DO, THEY CALL IT PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR SOME OF THE CODES.

AND THEN IN OCTOBER THEY DO THE REST, THEY SPLIT THEM.

SO THEY DID THE FIRE CODE AND, UM, PLUMBING AND MECHANICAL THIS ROUND.

AND IN OCTOBER THEY WILL DO THE REST, THE BUILDING, RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL BUILDING, AND THEN THE ELECTRICAL AND SO FORTH.

SO BASICALLY THEY JUST GO THROUGH IT, THEY DISCUSS IT SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO, AND THEY LOOK AT THE CODE SAYING, TODAY'S CODE SAYS THIS, BUT HERE IS THESE ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT.

THERE'S NEW TECHNOLOGY, WHATEVER THE DEAL MIGHT BE.

THEY GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND WHEN IT'S ALL APPROVED, THEN THEY PUBLISH THOSE BOOKS.

NOT EVERY CITY IN UNITED STATES, NOT EVERY STATE IN THE UNITED STATES WILL ADOPT THOSE CODES.

IT DEPENDS ON THE CITY, THE STATES, WHAT THEY WANNA ADOPT.

SO THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, WE ADOPT THE CODES AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.

THE REASON FOR THAT IS WE HAVE TWO CERTIFICATIONS, ISO CERTIFIED, AND WE HAVE THE IAS CERTIFICATIONS.

THOSE TWO CERTIFICATIONS WILL ALLOW THE CITY TO GET THE LOWEST INTEREST RATE, I'M SORRY, THE LOWEST, UM, INSURANCE RATES FOR YOUR HOUSE, CAR AND SO FORTH.

WE HAVE THE HIGHEST RATING ON THOSE.

ONE OF THE THINGS, WHEN THEY REVIEW, THEY COME AND, UH, CHECK DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

THEY CHECK EVERY PAPERWORK WE HAVE, THEY CHECK EVERY POLICY WE HAVE.

THEY WALK THROUGH EVERYTHING AND MAKE SURE WE ARE FOLLOWING EVERYTHING APPROPRIATELY.

ONE OF THE BIGGEST POINTS THEY HAVE IS HOW OLD THE CODES ARE.

IF YOU ARE FIVE YEARS OR OLDER WITH THE CODES, YOU TECHNICALLY, NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO, IF EVERYTHING ELSE IS PERFECT, YOU WILL NOT GET THE HIGHEST SCORE.

SO THAT'S WHY WE TRY TO ADOPT THOSE CODES AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

AND IF WE DO IT EVERY THREE YEARS, WE WILL NEVER BE PAST THE FIVE YEARS.

SO THAT'S, AGAIN, ONE OF THE REASONS I'M JUST GIVING YOU THE BIGGER PICTURE, BUT THAT'S WHY WE

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WANNA ALWAYS ADOPT THE NEWEST CODES.

BUT GEORGIA, AND, AND AN ADDITIONAL ANSWER TO THE QUESTION, IT IS NOT STRICTLY THAT CODE THAT IS FOLLOWED BECAUSE WE DO TAKE INPUT FROM CITIZENS OF THE CITY TO CHANGE SPECIFIC PARTS OF THE CODE AS WELL.

SO IT'S, IT'S STAFF RECOMMENDS FROM ICC AND PEOPLE FROM THE CITY, UH, CITIZENS OF THE CITY HAVE A CHANCE TO ALSO PROVIDE COMMENTS OR RECOMMENDATIONS TO THAT CODE.

CORRECT.

UM, EXISTING CODE.

SO THAT IS CORRECT.

SO WE DO GET THOSE NEW PUBLICATIONS, THE NEW CODES BASICALLY, AND WE REVIEW THEM AND DECIDE WHAT FITS OUR CITY.

BECAUSE AGAIN, THOSE AREN'T USED INTERNATIONALLY.

COULD BE IN UNITED STATES, COULD BE INTERNATIONAL.

SO THEY PUT SOMETIMES VERY GENERIC CODES.

UM, YOU CAN APPLY THEM, BUT NOT EVERYTHING WORKS FOR OUR CITY, SPECIFICALLY THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE.

BECAUSE WHEN YOU BUILD A STRUCTURE, I WOULD SAY IF YOU WANNA BUILD IT HERE IN AUSTIN, HOUSTON, AND PHOENIX, AND WHEREVER, DENVER, RIGHT? YOU WANNA BUILD IT TO MEET CODE, YOU DON'T WANT THE BUILDING TO FALL.

IT REQUIRES A LOT OF THINGS.

WIND, YOU KNOW, UM, BRACINGS AND ALL THAT, YOU KNOW.

SO OVERALL, TO BUILD SOMETHING NEW, YOU WANNA FOLLOW ALMOST THE SAME THING.

IT'S VERY MINOR THINGS THAT WE TWEAK WITH THOSE CODES.

THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE IS ACTUALLY COMES AFTER THE FACT, RIGHT? LIKE WHAT YOU GUYS DO NOW IS WE ARE REVIEWING PROPERTIES PEOPLE ARE USING, OCCUPYING AND UTILIZING.

SO AT THAT POINT, THAT'S WHY THEY CALL IT MAINTENANCE.

SO IT'S, IT'S MORE THE MAINTENANCE ASPECT AND THAT'S WHY WE REVIEW IT MORE IN DETAIL.

AND ACTUALLY WE DO HAVE, UM, HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY KNOWS, RIGHT? SO WE DON'T ADOPT THE INTERNATIONAL PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE.

WE KIND OF TAKE IT AS A GUIDANCE, BUT WE CREATE OUR OWN.

SO WE HAVE OUR SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MATCH THE INTERNATIONAL, THERE'S A LOT OF CHANGES THAT WE DO, AND THAT'S THROUGH THOSE MEETINGS AND THE SUBCOMMITTEES AND THE FEEDBACK WE GET FROM THE CITIZENS AND FROM YOU.

UM, AGAIN, KEEP IN MIND ANY OF OUR MEETINGS, WHEN WE ADOPT THE CODE OR REVIEW THE CODE IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC CAN SPEAK AND TELL THEIR VOICE, EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.

BUT AGAIN, THE SUBCOMMITTEE ITSELF IS THE ONE THAT VOTES, AND THAT'S WHAT, AGAIN, WE ARE ADDING THE FOUR NON APPOINTED MEMBERS TO ALLOW THEM TO VOTE ON TOP OF PROVIDING FEEDBACK.

SORRY FOR THE LONG ANSWER, BUT I, I THINK I'M JUST TRYING TO EXPLAIN THE WHOLE PROCESS.

YEAH.

JOEL HAS FOLLOW.

OH, I'M JUST GONNA ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL TO WHAT YOU WERE SAYING.

YOU KNOW, THE REASON FOR DOING IT ON A THREE YEAR CYCLE TO STAY WITH THE SAME CYCLES AS THE INTERNATIONAL CODE IS BEING DEVELOPED IS THAT NOW YOU HAVE ALL OF YOUR TRADES ALSO BEING TRAINED UP.

CORRECT.

TO BE ABLE TO, UH, UNDERSTAND WHAT THE NEW CODE IS AND HOW TO DO, MAKE SURE THAT THE, THEY'RE, THE CONSTRUCTION IS ACTUALLY COMPLIANCE.

SO YOU HAVE NOT ONLY YOUR TRADES, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE YOUR INSPECTORS THAT THEY'RE KEPT UP TO DATE.

IF YOU GO, IF YOU MISS A CYCLE AND YOU GO ANOTHER THREE YEARS, THAT MEANS, UH, ANY LIFE SAVING DEVICE THAT MAY HAVE GOTTEN INTO THE CODE WOULD'VE BEEN NOT PERMITTED UNTIL THAT NEW CODE IS REVISED.

SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO, TO KEEP IT CURRENT, UH, AND KEEP THE SKILL LEVELS, UH, UP AS WELL.

CURRENT AS WELL, AS WELL AS OUR INSPECTORS.

THANK YOU.

ABSOLUTELY.

YES.

UM, ALSO, WHEN I WAS IN IRAQ, WE HAD, OR THEY USED THE IBC OR IIC OVER THERE.

IT IS INTERNATIONAL BECAUSE THERE'S A COMMITTEE THAT ACTUALLY WHAT THEY WOULDN'T DO IS WORLDWIDE MAKE THE IT TRANSITIONAL FOR ANYBODY TO WORK WORLDWIDE.

SO THEY'RE MAKING THE SPECIFIC CODES LIKE THAT.

SO IT MAY HAVE ORIGINATED, BUT IT DOES HAVE A COMMITTEE FOR OVERSEAS.

MY OTHER QUESTION WAS, DO WE HAVE A BALLPARK OF WHEN WE'RE GONNA START THESE COMMITTEES? WE, WE, WE DIDN'T SET THAT UP YET, BUT I WOULD SAY PROBABLY IN ABOUT TWO MONTHS WE WILL START THAT PROCESS.

YEAH.

WE, WE NEED TO ORDER THE BOOKS AND, AND RECEIVE THEM BEFORE WE START THE PROCESS SO WE HAVE THEM.

UH, CAN, CAN WE NOT BE WALKING ON THE SUN FROM THE PARKING LOT TO THE DOOR ? I MEAN, WE DID IT IN JULY LAST TIME.

THAT WAS KIND OF ROUGH.

IT WAS WITH VACATION TIMES.

.

OKAY.

PLUS I'M GONNA BE IN LA SO I REALLY WANT TO BE HERE.

WAIT, WE CAN DO A PICNIC OUT, UP UNDER THESE TREES.

BRING A BAG OF SAND AND WE CAN THINK WE'RE AT THE BEACH.

ANYTHING ELSE, SIR? THAT'S IT ON MY END.

ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? THOMAS, YOU DON'T WANT TO PARTICIPATE ANYMORE? I THOUGHT YOU HAVE A QUESTION.

I ACTUALLY LOVE THE 2024 MECHANICAL PLANS AND IF WE ADOPT THEM TO BYLAWS, WE COULD HAVE SOME REALLY COOL STRUCTURES JUST SAYING .

ANY OTHER ISSUES? STAFF OUTSIDE JUDY, GO AHEAD PLEASE.

THANK YOU.

JUDY.

KRUM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

JUST

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WANTED TO INTRODUCE OUR TWO NEW MEMBERS.

WE HAVE GEORGE GRIMES JR.

WHO WAS APPOINTED TO THE BSB ON MARCH 7TH.

HE REPRESENTS DISTRICT TWO AND FILLS A RETIRED CATEGORY.

DORIS ELISE WAS APPOINTED TO THE BSB ON APRIL 4TH.

MS. ELISE REPRESENTS DISTRICT SIX AND FILLS THE RETIRED CATEGORY AS WELL.

BOTH MR. GRIMES AND MS. ELISE HAVE JOINED PANEL A.

THE THREE, THE BSB STILL HAS THREE VACANCIES.

WE HAVE ONE DISTRICT, ONE DISTRICT EIGHT, AND THE AT LARGE POSITION.

THE PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE MET ON MARCH 28TH FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE AT LARGE APPOINTMENT.

HOWEVER, A MOTION WAS MADE TO DELAY THE ITEM FOR THE NEXT AVAILABLE HEARING.

AND THAT MEETING DATE HAS NOT YETTER BEEN DETERMINED.

THANK YOU.

UH, JUDY, I DON'T KNOW.

IN FACT, I KNOW I DIDN'T DISCUSS IT WITH YOU, BUT, UH, DISTRICT EIGHT DOES HAVE THE POTENTIAL, I THINK OF AN ADDITIONAL MEMBER COMING ON BEFORE THE NEXT, UH, COMMITTEE MEETING.

SO HOPEFULLY, UH, WE'LL HAVE NOT ONLY THAT PER THAT POSITION FIELD, BUT ALSO THE AT LARGE WILL BE FILLED.

UH, AND THEY HAVE NOT, OR AT LEAST I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE TIME THAT THEY'VE GOT FOR THE NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING.

BUT, UH, I'M HOPING THAT THAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE NEXT 60 DAYS.

AND THAT MEANS THAT HOPEFULLY BEFORE MAY, WE COULD HAVE A FULL PANEL OF 14 INDIVIDUALS.

WE'LL KEEP OUR FINGERS CROSSED ON THAT ONE.

HUH? THERE'S STILL A VACANCY THERE.

YEAH, I, I REALIZE THAT, BUT THERE'S ALSO A CHANCE THAT THAT ONE MIGHT BE FILLED TOO.

UH, DON'T KNOW THAT, BUT WE'RE HOPING THEY WANT, THEY WANT MORE MONEY.

UH, I, I HAVE A, ACTUALLY, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF I WANNA PRESENT IT.

I HAVE SOME INITIAL THINGS RUNNING AROUND IN MY HEAD THAT I'M GONNA PRESENT TO THE NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING.

I ALREADY, I THINK I'M GONNA, UH, PRESENT THE NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING AND I'D LIKE TO GET SOME REAL QUICK INPUT JUST FROM THE PANEL.

UH, THE WEIRD THOUGHT WAS THAT WE HAVE BASICALLY FIVE DISTRICTS THAT ARE, ARE PRESENTING BEFORE THE BOARD ALMOST ALL THE TIME WITH BUILDINGS, UH, TO BE DEMOLISHED BECAUSE OF IT BEING AN UNSAFE STRUCTURE.

UH, BE A DILAPIDATED STRUCTURE.

AND, AND DILAPIDATED MEANS IT'S USUALLY UNSAFE.

UH, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THERE WERE IN EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT, A WAREHOUSE WHERE A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY COULD GO AND GET TOOLS TO DO REPAIRS, GET MATERIALS TO DO REPAIRS, UH, AND THEN POTENTIALLY WITHIN THE DISTRICT HAVING LOWE'S OR HOME DEPOT OR SOMEBODY LIKE THAT ACTUALLY TRAINED SOMEONE ON HOW TO DO THE REPAIRS.

UH, AND BEFORE I PRESENT IT TO THE COUNCIL, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD WOULD ENCOURAGE ME TO DO? THIS IS THOMAS, AND I'M PROBABLY GONNA SCARE YOU WHEN I SAY THIS.

OKAY? YES, MIKE.

GOOD.

THERE IS ENOUGH TRADES IN SAN ANTONIO, SO WHETHER IT IS RESIDENTIAL HVC, WHETHER IT'S GC CONCRETE, WHATEVER IT IS, YOU KNOW, ABSOLUTELY.

AND THERE SHOULD BE ENOUGH ORGANIZATIONS LIKE HOME DEPOT AND LOWE'S THAT CAN TRAIN.

SO YOU HAVE BOTH, UM, YOU KNOW, AND I'M, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BOARD'S CALLED, BUT DON'T WE HAVE A BOARD THAT, UH, DOES A LOT OF THE REGULATIONS FOR HVAC AND MECHANICAL ELECTRICAL, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME I WAS LOOKING AT IT CALLED CODE COMPLIANCE.

OH YEAH.

CO COMPLIANCE .

UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME PEOPLE ON THERE THAT COULD ALSO HELP WITH THAT.

SO I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

BUT MY ONE QUESTION IS WHO'S GONNA PAY FOR IT? YEAH.

WELL, YOU ALSO GOTTA LOOK AT THE LEGALITY OF THIS BOARD AND WHAT WE DO.

THAT HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE LOOKED AT.

WELL, THIS BOARD WOULD NOT HAVE ANY RESPONSIBILITY TO WHAT I'M PROPOSING THE RESPONSIBILITY WOULD FOLLOW ON THE COUNCIL DISTRICT STAFF.

BUT TO, WOULD THAT BE A PROBLEM PROPOSING IT? BECAUSE IS THAT OUT OF OUR LANE TO PROPOSE SOMETHING TO THE, I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE TALKING CITY COUNCIL PARTICULAR COUNCIL.

SO DO I GOTTA GO ON STACK HERE? I I WAS THERE, THERE'S A COMMITTEE.

I'M SORRY.

OKAY, LET ME GET THIS.

THERE'S A COMMITTEE THAT, UH, ACTUALLY DEALS WITH THE STAFF OF, UH, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

UH, AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WINDS UP BEING THERE ALMOST EVERY MONTH OR EVERY TIME THEY HAVE A MEETING FOR SOME REASON, PARTICULAR REASON.

AND I WAS GONNA MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION TO THAT COMMITTEE.

IT'S BASICALLY MADE UP, I THINK OF FOUR, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, AS A SUBCOMMITTEE TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

WELL, IN MY DISTRICT, WE JUST GOT A PAM, OR ACTUALLY A LETTER THAT THEY'RE DOING THAT DRIVE, UH, THE COMMUNITY DRIVE WHERE THEY'RE PUTTING A DUMPSTER AND THEN THEY'RE ON THERE.

IT SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT YOU CAN BORROW TOOLS WITH ADVANCED NOTICE.

WHAT'S THAT ONE ABOUT? THE COUNTY DOES HAVE A WAREHOUSE LIKE THAT.

WELL, THIS IS THE CITY.

THE CITY, THEY COME TO THE, LIKE MY COMMUNITY, THE COMMUNITY AREA, AND THEY PUT THAT IN THERE AND WE JUST GOT IT.

SO THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THEY'RE DOING IT TO US.

'CAUSE WE JUST GOTTA PARK.

BUT WHAT THEY DO IS THEY PUT A DUMPSTER AND YOU CAN TAKE ALL OF YOUR DEBRIS UP THERE AND DUMP IT.

AND THEY HAD SOMETHING ABOUT, THERE'S A SHED WITH PROPER NOTICE.

THEY'LL PUT THE TOOLS IN THERE SO YOU CAN DO CHORES

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AROUND THE HOUSE AND STUFF IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD THE TOOLS.

IS THAT SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? I DON'T KNOW.

I WISH YOU WOULD FIND OUT.

SO I'D LIKE TO GET THAT INFORMATION.

WELL, I JUST GOT THE THING FROM D UH, FROM, UM, DSD.

IT JUST CAME TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

NOT SANITATION.

IS THAT, SO IT'S PART, IT, IT'S WITHIN THE, BUT IT WAS, IT WAS LIKE THAT AND IT HAD THAT.

YOU CAN GET THE TOOLS CHAIR.

MAY I? YES, PLEASE.

OKAY.

SO I THINK, I THINK, LET ME START WITH THE END, I GUESS AND GO BACK FOR BACKWARDS.

UM, SO YES, WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FRED IS, IS THE TOOL SHED.

YEAH.

SO WE DO HAVE THE TOOL SHED.

WE HAVE A PROGRAM AND WE CAN DEFINITELY, I'M THINKING TO ADD IT TO THE FULL BOARD.

AND WE TALK ABOUT IT AGAIN, I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT IT WHILE BACK.

WE CALL IT SWEEPS.

IT'S CODE SWEEPS.

SO EVERY COUNCIL DISTRICT IS ALLOWED, UH, TWO SWEEPS A YEAR.

SO THEY GIVE US, UH, ONE RESIDENTIAL AND ONE COMMERCIAL SAYING, I WANT YOU THIS YEAR TO FOCUS ON THIS MAIN STREET COMMERCIAL OR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND DO FULL SWEEP ON IT FOR ANY CODE VIOLATIONS.

SO PART OF THAT PROCESS IS WE GO THROUGH AND IT'S ABOUT FIVE WEEK PROCESS.

SO WEEK ONE, WE JUST GO OUT THERE, DO A LOT OF EDUCATION, TELL EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT THE SWEEP IS, WHAT WE LOOK FOR, THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND THEN WE GET A, A DUMPSTER, WE PUT IT THERE AND TELL THEM, HEY, YOU KNOW, START CLEANING UP AND IF YOU NEED PLACE TO JUST PUT EVERYTHING SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE IT TO THE LANDFILL OR WHATEVER, HERE YOU GO.

YOU CAN JUST USE THAT, UH, JUST TO TRY THEM TO GET INTO COMPLIANCE.

AND THEN AFTER THAT, WE START THE PROCESS OF THE SWEEP, THE PHYSICAL SWEEP WITH THE NOTICES AND IF THEY DON'T COMPLY, THE CITATIONS AND SO FORTH.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

NOW, GOING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL IDEA, YOU CAN PRESENT THAT PCDC, ANYTHING YOU, YOU WOULD LIKE.

BUT IF, IF YOU HAVE AN OVERALL CONCEPT, UH, I WOULD SAY, YEAH, YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT IT AND COME UP WITH, WITH SOLUTIONS.

SO IF YOU'RE ASKING ME PERSONALLY OR MAYBE EVEN AS, AS DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, DO I HAVE CONCERNS WITH THAT? YES, I DO.

BECAUSE IF YOU DO HAVE A WAREHOUSE WITH MATERIAL AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND YOU ON HOW TO DO IT LIKE LOWE'S OR HOME DEPOT TRAINING PEOPLE ON HOW TO DO THINGS, IT DEPENDS WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I HEARD MECHANICAL, IF YOU'RE NOT LIVE, IF YOU'RE NOT LICENSED MECHANICAL CONTRACTOR, YOU CANNOT DO ANY OF THAT WORK EITHER WAY.

SO AGAIN, I, I DUNNO WHAT THE EXTENT OF REPAIRS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

UM, AND THEN DEFINITELY THE FUNDING.

WHO GONNA FUND IT? WHO GONNA MONITOR THAT? AND SO, SO IT'S A GREAT IDEA, BUT OBVIOUSLY IT NEEDS A LOT OF WORK.

AND I'M NOT SAYING YOU NEED TO DO ALL THE WORK.

YOU CAN PITCH THE IDEA AND IF PCDC LIKES IT OR YOU CAN TALK TO YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER DIRECTLY, IF THEY LIKE IT, THEY MIGHT COME UP WITH A CCR AND THEN ASK THE DEPARTMENT THAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT, IF IT'S US OR SOMEBODY ELSE TO LOOK INTO IT AND COME UP WITH A PROGRAM.

SO AGAIN, UM, GOOD IDEA.

UM, IT JUST, IT NEEDS A LOT OF THOUGHT AND PROCESS.

YEAH.

KAYLA, YOU HAD A COMMENT? YEAH, UH, WE DO SOMETHING SIMILAR ALREADY IN ND FIVE, UM, COUNCILMAN CASTILLO'S OFFICE, UH, POST TOGETHER VOLUNTEERS, I BELIEVE ONCE A MONTH WHO GO PROPERTY TO PROPERTY, UM, AND CUT GRASS, TRIM TREES, DO SMALL MINOR REPAIRS.

UH, AND, AND IT'S A FOCUS ON PEOPLE WITH CODE COMPLAINTS.

UM, OF COURSE THAT PROGRAM REALLY NEEDS TO BE, YOU KNOW, EXPANDED SIGNIFICANTLY.

UM, I KNOW WE DO HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, TOOL SHED, BUT A LOT OF TIMES THERE'S LIKE NO TOOLS THERE.

SO WE DO NEED THE TOOLS TO BE AVAILABLE.

THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD AND CAN AND HAVE THE SKILLS TO DO THE, THE WORK THEMSELVES OF, OF COURSE, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT, UM, UH, AC PLUMBING, ELECTRICAL, BECAUSE ALL OF THAT REQUIRES A LICENSE, NOR WAS I.

EVERYTHING ELSE, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE SUBCONTRACTORS OR LABORERS AND THEY KNOW HOW TO DO THE WORK.

THEY DO IT EVERY SINGLE DAY.

UH, THEY JUST DON'T HAVE THE MATERIALS OR THE MONEY TO DO SO.

SO THAT WOULD BE A REALLY AMAZING PROGRAM.

IT IT REALLY, IN, IN ALMOST EVERY CASE ON A STRUCTURE THAT WE'VE GOT HERE, WHETHER IT'S A MAINTENANCE STRUCTURE OR A DILAPIDATED STRUCTURE, UH, IT COMES RIGHT DOWN TO MONEY BECAUSE EVERY STRUCTURE THAT WE HEAR THAT'S DILAPIDATED AND WE QUOTE ORDER IT DEMOLISHED, UH, COULD HAVE BEEN REPAIRED IN MOST CASES.

IT'S NOT LOGICAL TO BE REPAIRED BECAUSE OF THE COST OF REPAIR IS GREATER THAN THE COST OF STRUCTURING OR REBUILDING THE STRUCTURE FROM GROUND UP.

UH, BUT IT, IT REALLY BOILS DOWN TO THAT ISSUE OF

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MONEY, UH, ALMOST EVERY TIME BECAUSE IN ORDER TO DO ANY REPAIR, YOU'VE GOTTA HAVE MATERIALS.

UH, THE THE TOOL SHED IS JUST THE ELIMINATION OF THE REQUIREMENT TO GO OUT AND BUY YOUR OWN TOOLS.

IT WAS JUST A WEIRD THOUGHT.

UH, AND I WANTED TO GET SOME INPUT FROM THE, FROM THE BOARD BEFORE I DID ANYTHING.

UH, AND, UH, I MEAN, I WANTED TO HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH, WITH EITHER YOU OR MIKE OR BOTH BEFORE I MAKE ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

LET ME ADD THIS.

GO AHEAD.

IT'S A THOUGHT.

AND IF WE DO THAT, THEN MAYBE WE NEED TO SIT AND EVERYBODY PUT THE EYE, BECAUSE WE ALSO GOTTA TRY TO, INSTEAD OF WAITING UNTIL THEY GET SO DILAPIDATED, WE GOTTA TRY TO GET 'EM BEFORE THEY GET DILAPIDATED OR AT LEAST REPAIRABLE BE, BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE'RE WASTING OUR TIME.

AND THAT COULD HAVE GONE TO ONE OF THE OTHER HOMES THAT WE COULD HAVE, OR NOT WE, THAT COULD BE SAVED.

AND THAT SHOULD BE IN THAT THING TOO, TO IDENTIFY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR FIRST.

IT'S NOT NECESSARY.

THE ONES THAT ARE ALREADY GONE AND WE CAN'T TOUCH BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE HOMEOWNER.

BUT IN THE THING WE CAN RIGHT IN THERE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET IT BEFORE IT GETS HERE AND BEFORE IT GETS TO DSD IN, IN, IN THE THING IF THE COM, IF THE, IF, IF ALL YOUR COUNSEL SIGNS OFF ON IT.

'CAUSE THEY DO RECEIVE MONEY, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT.

FOR CERTAIN PIECES YES.

IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND IF THEY CAN WORK THAT IN OR ASK FOR MORE MONEY FOR THIS PROGRAM, WE SHOULD IDENTIFY THAT FIRST.

THESE ARE THE ONES THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE DONE BEFORE THEY COME.

HERE IS THE ONES THAT WE CAN SAVE, NOT THE ONES WE CAN'T SAVE.

AND, AND JUST A SIDEBAR COMMENT TO THAT ISSUE.

AND THAT IS WHEN A STRUCTURE GETS HERE, IT'S, IT'S A FINAL, IT'S THE FINAL CHANCE BEYOND WHAT THIS, THIS SCOPE OF THING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

YEP.

IT SURE IS.

AND I THINK WE SHOULD ALL INPUT AND DO IT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO THE WHOLE PANEL FOR THE INPUT.

AND THE WORST THING THEY COULD SAY IS, NO THOMAS, THANK YOU FOR SAYING YES FOR SOMETHING .

WHAT? UM, I DO WANNA SAY THAT, UH, PART OF THAT IS I THINK WE SHOULD GET THE LOCAL BUSINESSES BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, AS A HOMEOWNER, YOU CAN CHANGE OUT THE FAN IN YOUR HVAC WITHOUT A LICENSE.

RIGHT? BUT IF THERE ARE COMPANIES OUT THERE THAT WILL DROP COSTS, RIGHT? SO IF THERE'S PLUMBING COMPANIES THAT WILL SAY, IF YOU'RE PART OF THIS PROGRAM, YOU GET, I DUNNO, 50% DISCOUNT, RIGHT? AND SO YOU'RE NOT PAYING NECESSARILY MARKET RATES.

I THINK THAT THEN FOR THOSE THAT YOU DO NEED CERTIFIED, THEY CAN'T COME OUT THERE FOR CHEAPER.

YEP.

AND JUST TO MAKE REAL SURE EVERYBODY'S IS REAL CLEAR, THE THE THOUGHT PROCESS THAT I WAS GOING THROUGH WAS NOT AN ADDITIONAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE BOARD.

IN FACT, IT WAS THE LAST THING THAT WE NEED TO DO FOR THE BOARD.

UH, IT WAS AN ISSUE OF GIVING A COUNCIL DISTRICT AN IDEA OF HOW A COUNCIL DISTRICT MIGHT PREVENT SOMETHING FROM COMING TO THIS BOARD.

UH, SO THAT THIS BOARD DOES NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ORDERING A DEMOLITION BECAUSE THE LAST THING THAT WE WANT TO DO, OR AT LEAST NOT I WANNA DO, UH, ANYTIME A BUILDING COMES TO, TO ME, UH, AS FAR AS THE BOARD IS CONCERNED, IS TEAR IT DOWN.

BECAUSE EVERY TIME I TEAR DOWN THE BUILDING, I ALSO TEAR DOWN THE TAX STRUCTURE FOR THE CITY.

UH, BUT IT'S, IT'S JUST A, AN ISSUE THAT IS EATING AT ME.

UH, I WAS THINKING ABOUT EVEN GOING IN WITH AN INTRODUCTION.

WHAT KEEPS YOU AWAKE AT NIGHT? RECENTLY? THAT SUBJECT HAS KEPT ME AWAKE AT NIGHT, .

AND, UH, I HAVE SLEPT LAST TWO WEEKS, UH, LAST WEEK, I GUESS EVERY NIGHT.

SO I GUESS I'M BEGINNING TO GET IT BEHIND ME.

UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? YEAH, MR. CHAIRMAN, GO AHEAD.

UM, THERE WAS AN ARTICLE IN THE SAN ANTONIO EXPRESS NEWS ON, UH, MARCH THE 31ST.

AND IT'S ABOUT SOME, UH, RESEARCH IN A PAPER THAT A COUPLE OF, UH, PROFESSORS AT, UH, UTSA HAVE DONE.

AND, UH, WHAT THEY'VE DONE IS CREATED A MODEL THAT, UH, IS INTENDED TO IDENTIFY HOUSES IN NEED OF REPAIR BEFORE THEY BECOME DETERIORATED.

AND THEY'VE, THEY'VE, UH, WRITTEN A, EXCUSE ME, A, A PAPER IN A, A JOURNAL CALLED, UH, THE JOURNAL OF PLANNING EDUCATION AND RESEARCH.

AND THE WAY THEY'VE DESCRIBED IT IN THE NEWSPAPER, UH, IS THEY'VE CREATED A MODEL THAT COULD BE USED BY CITIES AND ORGANIZATIONS TO HELP CONNECT RESIDENTS LIVING IN DETERIORATED HOMES THAT COULD BE AT RISK FOR DEMOLITION, WITH PROGRAMS THAT ASSIST WITH REPAIRING ROOFS, WINDOWS, DOORS, AND SO FORTH.

SO, AND, AND THEY, THESE PEOPLE HAVE MADE A PRESENTATION TO, UH, ONE OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, UM, AND SOME OTHER ORGANIZATIONS HERE IN TOWN.

APPARENTLY THEY HAVE NOT CONTACTED, UH, THE, UH, BILLING SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

BUT ANYWAY, IT, IT MIGHT BE WORTH US THINKING ABOUT WHETHER WE WANTED TO INCLUDE IT ANY RECOMMENDATION WHETHER THE CITY CONSIDER SOMETHING LIKE THIS

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TO THE BUILDING, TO THE HOMES, YOU KNOW, ONE 20TH OWNERSHIP.

SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT GETS US INTO A LOT OF TR UH, PROBLEMS WITH THESE HOMES.

AND THEN WHY THEY GET NEGLECTED IS THAT THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO GET A CLEAR TITLE.

AND, AND UNTIL WE START ADDRESSING THAT AND GET KIND OF TO THE ROOT CAUSE OF WHY THESE THINGS ARE, UH, IGNORED FOR SO LONG, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE NEVER GONNA GET THERE.

THERE ACTUALLY IS, UH, A GROUP WORKING WITH INDIVIDUALS TO HELP CLEAR TITLES.

AND UM, I KNOW PART OF IT IS UTSA, BUT IT'S, IT'S ALSO LIKE A GROUP OF STUDENTS THAT ARE DOING IT.

I WOULD HAVE TO GET YOU THE INFORMATION, BUT I CAN GET THAT OVER TO YOU.

THAT'S GOOD.

AND SOMEWHERE IN ALL MY, MY RESEARCH BEFORE I GOT HERE AND SPOUT IT OFF, ALL THESE ISSUES AND IDEAS, UH, THERE'S ACTUALLY SOME GROUP THAT'S EVEN DEVELOPING A PRESENTATION TO DO TODD.

UH, TODD IS A TRANSFER OF DEED ON DEATH.

OH.

UH, AND IT'S, UH, COUNCIL, YOU MAY HAVE TO HELP ME OUT OF TROUBLE HERE.

'CAUSE NOW I'M SPEAKING OUT OF THE ABILITY TO KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

HE'S, BUT TODD IS, TODD IS ACTUALLY THE ABILITY TO TRANSFER A DEED EASIER THAN GOING THROUGH PROBATE.

UH, AND IN FACT, TODD EVEN SUPERSEDES WHAT MIGHT BE IN A WILL AS LONG AS THE TODD IS, IS FILED, UH, AFTER THE DATE OF THE WILL.

SO TODD IS A WAY TO, TO GET PROPERTY PROPERLY DEEDED TO FAMILY MEMBERS ON DEATH.

UH, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT IF YOU HAVE NOT DONE, YOU OUGHT TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT PERSONALLY BECAUSE IT'S A GOOD WAY TO MAKE SURE, UH, YOU DO LEAVE PROPERTY TO PEOPLE THAT YOU WANT TO LEAVE THE PROPERTY TO.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, AND THEY'RE DOING THOSE WORKSHOPS AS WELL, THE TRANSFER ON DEATH DEEDS, UM, AND ALSO PROTEST, UH, PROTESTING YOUR PROPERTY TAXES TO GET YOUR PROPERTY TAXES LOWER.

YEAH.

IS THAT YOUR ORGANIZATION? UH, OR IS IT SOME UH, IT'S NOT MY ORGANIZATION, BUT I WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THEM.

OKAY.

MY CITY, MY HOME, BUT THEY'RE WORKING WITH NHSD NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.

UM, SO OH, THAT'S WHERE IT WAS? YES.

OKAY, GOOD.

IT'S GONNA BE, MOST OF THE PROGRAMS ARE GONNA BE THROUGH NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.

OKAY, GOOD.

SO NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, REVIEW THAT WITH, UH, ANYBODY THAT YOU HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT STRUCTURES BECAUSE THE ISSUE OF, UH, HOW TO MAKE SURE YOU PAY THE LOWEST PROPERTY TAX AND HOW DO YOU TRANSFER PROPERTY DEEDS ON DEATH.

UH, AND TWO OTHER ISSUES THAT RUN THE AGENDA THAT WERE VERY GOOD.

IF YOU'RE A SQUATTER, YOU DON'T PAY TAXES.

UH, THE GOOD THING, IF YOU READ GOVERNOR ABBOTT'S NOTE TO THE WORLD, UH, TEXAS IS A INDEED PROPERTY RIGHTS STATE AND ALSO THE ABILITY TO HAVE A CASTLE LAW THAT EXISTS REAL, REAL WELL.

AND HE INCLUDED.

SO I'M NOT STATING SOMETHING THAT'S OUT OF LINE.

A STATEMENT THAT, BECAUSE THIS IS A STATE THAT HAS OPEN CARRY, UH, PROPERTY RIGHTS AND CASTLE RIGHTS, YOU COULD BE SHOT IF YOU'RE A SQUATTER.

SO SQUATTERS BEWARE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

WE'RE A GREAT STATE.

ANY OTHER ISSUES? CHAIRMAN? MOTION TO ADJOURN, PLEASE.

DO I HAVE A SECOND ON THAT RIGHT HERE? A SECOND.

I, OH, OKAY.

WE HAVE A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED SAY WHAT ABOUT DISCUSSION? , WE ARE ADJOURNED AT, UH, LOOKS LIKE 41 12, 11 41.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU ALL.

VERY GOOD GUYS.

GOOD DISCUSSION GUYS.

APPRECIATE IT.

Y'ALL COME BACK, STAFF.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.