* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:03] ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON. IT IS 2:04 PM UH, WELCOME TO THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO FOR WEDNESDAY, APRIL 24TH, 2024. HAPPY FIESTA. UH, CAN WE PLEASE HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT SPANISH LANGUAGE INTERPRETATION SERVICES? YOU SAY, UH, IF, UH, IF YOU CAN PROVIDE INFORMATION, UH, TO INDIVIDUALS WHO MIGHT NEED SPANISH LANGUAGE. THANK YOU. STAFF CONDUCT ROLL CALL, PLEASE. COMMISSIONER SIPES. HERE. COMMISSIONER ORIAN? HERE. COMMISSIONER MILAM? HERE. COMMISSIONER LOPEZ. HERE. COMMISSIONER ZUKI. COMMISSIONER GARCIA. HERE. COMMISSIONER FAULKNER? HERE. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL. HERE. COMMISSIONER PECK. CHAIR PROPHET PRESENT. A QUORUM IS PRESENT. THANK YOU. AS A RECOMMENDING BODY TO THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO CITY COUNCIL PLANNING COMMISSION WILL, UH, CONSIDER TWO AGENDAS TODAY. UH, THE FIRST ITEM, UH, THE FIRST ITEM WILL BE A CONSENT AGENDA, OR I ITEMS WILL BE, UM, CONSIDERED AS A WHOLE, AND ONE ACTION WILL BE TAKEN BY THE, THE COMMISSION, AND THEN THE OTHER ITEMS WILL BE HEARD INDIVIDUALLY, AND THOSE ITEMS WILL BE 27, WHICH IS POSTPONED. UH, 28, 29, 30, 31, AND 35? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 28. SO [Plats  ] LET'S, LET'S TAKE THE CONSENT AGENDA FIRST. MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. THAT'S FIESTA. UH, MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA BY COMMISSIONER MILAM. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SIEGEL. COMMISSIONER MILAM? YES. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES. COMMISSIONER ORIAN? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? YES. COMMISSIONER GARCIA? YES. COMMISSIONER FAULKNER? YES. CHAIR PROPHET? YES. MOTION PASSES SINCE YOU'VE BEEN DOING THIS CHAIR FOR TOO LONG. . ANYWAYS. ALRIGHT. ITEM NUMBER 28, [Comprehensive Master Plan Amendments  ] PLEASE. ALEXA RATANA PLANNER WIT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER 28 IS A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE GUADALUPE WEST SIDE COMMUNITY PLAN FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO LOW DENSITY MIXED USE LOCATED AT 2 0 3 OBON STREET. THERE ARE 49 NOTICES MAILED FIVE IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED WITH WITHIN 200 FEET. COLLINS GARDEN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN OPPOSITION OF THE REQUEST OUTSIDE THE 200 FEET. THERE ARE TWO IN FAVOR. THE PROPOSED PLAN AMENDMENT FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO LOW DENSITY MIXED USE IS REQUESTED TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO IDZ TWO. MEDIUM INTENSITY INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS. GIVEN THE PROXIMITY TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES WITH LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL LAND USE CLASSIFICATIONS. STAFF CONSIDERS A PROPOSED PLAN AMENDMENT INCOMPATIBLE. THE PROPOSED LOW DENSITY MIXED USE WOULD BE INCONSISTENT WITH THE PATTERN OF THE AREA. THE GUADALUPE WEST SIDE COMMUNITY PLAN CALLS OUT THE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF LOW DENSITY MIXED USE TO BE CONCENTRATED ALONG EITHER GUADALUPE STREET OR RIO CITY ROAD. THIS CASE WAS HEARD AT THE APRIL 10TH PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, HOWEVER, IT WAS CONTINUED AFTER MAJORITY VOTE WAS NOT REACHED. THE CASE HAS ALSO BEEN HEARD AT THE APRIL 16TH ZONING COMMISSION MEETING, ZONING, COMMISSION RECOMMENDED DENIAL AND STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL. THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, ALEXIS. UH, EDGAR M OKAY. UH, MY NAME IS SGA MUNOZ. MY ADDRESS IS 40 TO 10 APPLE TREE WOODS, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO EXPLAIN AS FAST AS I CAN, RIGHT? BECAUSE, UH, I GUESS YES. YOU KNOW, WE, WE ARE HAVING ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TO PLANNING COMMISSION BECAUSE LAST TIME, UH, THERE WAS [00:05:01] A BOAT, I GUESS WE GOT FOUR OUT OF SEVEN IN PLANNING COMMISSION. RIGHT. UH, AND, AND THEN WE THOUGHT IT WAS LIKE A, A PASS, BUT, UH, I GUESS WE, YOU KNOW, PER ATTORNEY WE NEEDED FIVE. RIGHT? UH, SO THEN WE WENT TO ZONING COMMISSION AND ZONING COMMISSION. I GUESS THEY BASE THEIR, THEIR APPROVAL BASED ON PLANNING COMMISSION, RIGHT? UH, BECAUSE THEY, THEY WANTED TO SUPPORT PLANNING COMMISSION AND YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY, THEY SAY THEY DIDN'T APPROVE BASED ON PLANNING COMMISSION, RIGHT? SO I GUESS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A FRESH START FOR US, RIGHT? SO, UH, LAST TIME WHEN WE, I GUESS CAME HERE TO PLANNING COMMISSION THAT WE WERE TRYING TO OBTAIN THE APPROVAL, RIGHT? UH, I GUESS WE OBTAINED, I GUESS, UH, FOUR MEMBERS, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE, UH, OUT OF THE SEVEN, UH, YOU KNOW, I GUESS GETTING OUR, OUR SUPPORT, RIGHT? UH, AS ONE OF THIS WAS YOU, MR. UH, MATTHEW PROPHET, UH, MEREDITH SIEGEL, UH, DR. AMANI CAMIS, AND DR. SAMS ZUKI, WHICH IS NOT HERE, RIGHT? I DO SEE, LIKE OTHER PEOPLE IS PRESENT, AND I DO SEE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, TWO OF THE PEOPLE THAT WERE OPPOSED, MICHAEL GARCIA AND STEPHANIE FALCON ARE PRESENT, RIGHT? I DO SEE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE LIKE MORE THAN ENOUGH TO MAKE A DECISION, RIGHT? UH, SINCE THEN, YOU KNOW, WE WENT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE ASKED THEM FOR SUPPORT, RIGHT? THAT'S HOW WE GOT LIKE SOME OF THE LETTERS. I THINK WE, WE GOT LIKE SEVEN PEOPLE, AND THEN FIVE OF THOSE ARE WITHIN THE 200 FEET RADIUS, AND TWO OF THEM ARE JUST OUTSIDE, RIGHT? UH, WE DO HAVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THAT SAYS IT'S A POST, BUT WHEN I WAS ASKING, UH, THE PEOPLE IN THERE ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, IT'S KIND OF LIKE THEY HAVEN'T HEARD OF THEM, RIGHT? SO, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION GOT A VOTE, BUT LIKE, AT LEAST THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS DID NOT KNOW ABOUT RIGHT? OR AT LEAST THE ONE THAT SENT THOSE LETTERS, RIGHT? UH, SO BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS, UH, IT'S A ZONING, WHICH IS IDC, WHICH WE EXPLAINED LAST TIME. UH, IT JUST TO BE ABLE TO HAVE LIKE A LOT PER HOUSE, RIGHT? UH, SO THAT LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT JUST OPENED, YOU KNOW, ANYONE CAN, CAN JUST BUY A LOT AND THEN A LOT GOES WITH THE HOUSE, RIGHT? UH, THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT WE WANT. SO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK LIKE, UH, THOSE PEOPLE THAT SUPPORTED US LAST TIME TO SUPPORT US, UH, SADLY THIS ONLY LIKE THREE OF THEM HERE. HOPEFULLY THEY WILL STILL SUPPORT. AND, UH, AND I'M HOPING THAT LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER ONES, UH, YOU KNOW, DO SUPPORT, UH, OUR CASE. AND THEN PLEASE, UH, IF YOU HAVE LIKE, QUESTIONS ON, ON THIS, I MEAN, DO ASK, DO ASK. BECAUSE I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE LIKE A, LIKE A FIVE MINUTE DECISION RIGHT? ON A CASE BECAUSE I MEAN, UH, TO ME IT WAS LIKE, I GUESS THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE CITY FOR GIVING US THE CHANCE TO PRESENT AGAIN. UH, BECAUSE NOW IF, I GUESS WE GO THROUGH THIS NOW, IT'S A SORT OF DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE PRESENTING TO SONY, RIGHT? BECAUSE SONY IS GONNA BE, I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S, UH, OSE, RIGHT? BUT IT'S KIND OF LIKE IF WE CONVINCE PLANNING NOW WE HAVE LIKE A TOTALLY DIFFERENT, I GUESS, PERSPECTIVE. WE, WE GO AGAIN TO, I GUESS TO THE SONY COMMISSION, RIGHT? UH, WHICH I THINK ALWAYS THAT WOULD BE THE CASE, NOT SURE. UM, SO, UM, KIND OF LIKE, THAT'S, THAT'S OUR PERSPECTIVE. UM, I DON'T WANNA GO LIKE ALL THE WAY TO THE BACK. I MEAN, UH, I MEAN, WE TALK ABOUT DENSITY LAST TIME. YOU GUYS HAVE LIKE A LOT OF CASES. I MEAN, SO, SO BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A R THREE, UH, CONDITIONAL, YOU KNOW, PERMISSION TO BUILD LIKE, UH, TWO HOMES WE'RE ALMOST DONE, RIGHT? UH, LIKE, PROBABLY LIKE A MONTH, UH, FROM IT. UM, BUT THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW IS SOMEBODY WANTS TO BUY A HOUSE. THEY BUY A HOUSE IN A COMMON LOT, YOU KNOW, THE LOT IS LIKE 3,100 SQUARE FEET, RIGHT? BUT THE ACTUAL DENSITY, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY'RE SAYING WE'RE CHANGING IT. I MEAN, TECHNICALLY WE'RE NOT, RIGHT? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE ALREADY HAVE LIKE TWO HOMES IN A, IN 3000 SQUARE FEET, RIGHT? THE ONLY REASON FOR CHANGING TO IDC IS BECAUSE THE ONLY, UH, I GUESS THE ONLY, UM, HOW DO YOU CALL IT? LIKE, UH, IS THE ONLY ZONING THAT ALLOW US TO REPL THE PROPERTY, AND SO DIVIDE INTO TWO, UH, SMALLER LOTS, WHICH WILL BE, YOU KNOW, AVERAGE 1500 SQUARE FEET, RIGHT? I MEAN, KINDA LIKE TOWARDS THE MIDDLE, RIGHT? THAT WAY IT'S, UH, IT'S A SIMPLE TRANSACTION. YOU KNOW, LIKE WHEN, WHEN SOMEBODY WANTS ONE HOUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY JUST GET THE HOUSE WITH A LOT, WHICH IS WHAT, WHAT IS TYPICAL FOR, I GUESS, LENDERS, BANKS, YOU KNOW, TO, TO PROVIDE TO, UH, LIKE, UH, ANY, I GUESS, UH, UM, WHAT DO YOU CALL, LIKE ANY, ANY PERSON, RIGHT? [00:10:01] THE WAY IT IS LIKE NOW, YOU KNOW, LIKE MANY BANKS, UH, DO HAVE LIKE DIFFICULTY BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S KIND OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A HOUSE, BUT IT'S ATTACHED TO A COMMON COMMON LOT, RIGHT? UH, NOT YOUR MISTAKE, RIGHT? UH, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO CHANGE, UH, THE SONY, RIGHT? UH, THERE IS SOME IDCI MEAN, IT'S NOT WITHIN THAT PROXIMITY RIGHT THERE. UM, THE DEVELOPMENT IS NICE. I MEAN, SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE TALK TO, I MEAN, THEY'RE GLAD, UH, THE HOUSE RIGHT ACROSS THE, THE, THE PROPERTY. I MEAN, IT IS IN REALLY BAD SHAPE. UM, SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT I ARE TALKING HERE, UH, THEY WERE REALLY HAPPY THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE, I MEAN, THIS IS KIND OF LIKE HAPPENING IN THERE BECAUSE SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN THERE LIVING THERE FOR A LONG TIME. BUT, UH, WHEN I ACTUALLY LIKE WALK, LIKE ALL THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, SOME OF THE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN LIVING THERE FOR A LONG TIME AND SOME OF THE HOUSES ACTUALLY LIKE EMPTY, RIGHT? UH, SOME OF THE HOUSES ARE LIKE REALLY LIKE FALLING DOWN. LIKE THE ONE ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS ONE IS LIKE, IT'S FALLING DOWN, RIGHT? I MEAN, PEOPLE LIVES THERE, BUT IT'S FALLING DOWN. SO LIKE, I MEAN, WHOEVER WANTS TO DO SOMETHING IN THERE, IT IS GONNA BE SOMETHING LIKE THIS, RIGHT? I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S WHERE SAN ANTONIO'S HEADED, RIGHT? IT'S WHERE I GUESS WHENEVER JULIAN CASTRO STARTED, LIKE DEVELOPING THE WHOLE DOWNTOWN, YOU KNOW, WITH THE PEARL AND STARTING EVERYTHING, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE EVERYTHING STARTED CHANGING, RIGHT? UH, WITH ALL THESE IDC TRYING TO KIND OF LIKE BRING IN, UH, LIKE, YOU KNOW, REVIVE, UH, EVERYTHING. SO, UH, THAT'S IT. UM, IT, I GUESS WHEN YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW, START LIKE VOTING, MAKING THE DECISION, UH, IF YOU GUYS HAVE LIKE A NO, I MEAN, I KNOW C IS SAYING IT DOESN'T GO WITH THE PLAN. UH, THEY DO NOT SUPPORT, UH, I DON'T KNOW. YOU GUYS HAVE LIKE A FEEDBACK FROM THEM BEFORE THE MEETING. UH, BUT I MEAN, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING, I JUST, SOMETHING SPECIFIC RIGHT? JUST ASK US, RIGHT? BECAUSE I, I CAN PROVIDE MY OPINION RIGHT? AS WELL. I WOULD LIKE TO BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE THAT. THANK YOU. AND THEN IF YOU GUYS DECIDE NO, STILL. WELL, AND THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY WE'LL DO IS WE WILL GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMISSIONERS TO ASK QUESTIONS. JUST TO CLARIFY THAT OUR PURVIEW IS, IS LAND USE AND PLAN AMENDMENTS. SO ZONING IS A SEPARATE RECOMMENDING BODY TO THE CITY COUNCIL. MM-HMM. . AND WHATEVER ACTION WE TAKE IS ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION, CITY COUNCIL. SO, UM, THE RECOMMENDATION BY ZONING HAS ALREADY BEEN MADE. OKAY? IT WON'T BE RECONSIDERED, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. ALRIGHT, I'LL START. UH, COMMISSIONER LOPEZ, WHAT IS ON THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW? WHAT IS Y'ALL BUILT RIGHT NOW? SO, SO RIGHT NOW WHERE WE OWN TWO, TWO HOMES, RIGHT? UH, EACH ONE OF THE HOMES IS ABOUT LIKE A LITTLE OVER 1000 SQUARE FEET. UH, EACH, UH, IS TWO STORIES. EACH ONE OF THEM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE LIKE SIMILAR, JUST LIKE FLIP, YOU KNOW, ONE IS FACING ORONE, THE OTHER ONE IS, IS FACING . AND, UH, THE HOUSES ARE LIKE THREE BEDROOM, TWO AND A HALF BATH. UH, UM, HOLD ON. I HAD ONE. NO, I DO NOT HAVE A SIDE PLAN WITH ME. OH, OH YEAH. LIKE THEY, THEY SEND A PRESENTATION AND IT SHOULD BE IN THERE. SO THE FIRST STORY IS LIKE THE KITCHEN LIVING ROOM QUESTION FOR THE STAFF. SO THESE HOUSES, I ASSUME THEY, THEY HAVE PER BUILDING PERMITS AND IT'S FROM A DENSITY PERSPECTIVE, HE CAN BUILD TWO UNITS ON IT RIGHT NOW. AND THE QUESTION IS CAN HE PLA THEM, RIGHT? IS THAT WHERE WE'RE THAT IS CORRECT. HE HAS, UM, HE IS APPROVED TO BUILD TWO UNITS FOR HIS CURRENT ZONING, BUT AS YOU MENTIONED, HE WOULD LIKE TO SUBDIVIDE THE PROPERTY INTO TWO INTO TWO VERY SMALL LOTS, CORRECT. REQUIRE IDZ. CORRECT. WHICH REQUIRES A PLAN AMENDMENT. CORRECT. SORRY, I MISSED LAST MEETING, SO I APOLOGIZE. PLEASE. NO, YOU'RE DOING GREAT. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. UH, SO MY QUESTION ALSO IS FOR STAFF. I NOTICED THAT, UH, THIS, THIS WHOLE AREA IS ALL BASICALLY R FOUR, BUT THERE'S A, THERE'S SOME MF 33 OF THE BLOCK AWAY, OR CAN, CAN YOU COMMENT ON THE, THE SORT OF DENSITY THAT THEY'RE, THAT THEY'RE ATTEMPTING TO, TO PUT THERE? IF THAT'S IN LINE WITH KIND OF WHAT HE'S ASKING FOR? OR IS IT, UH, UH, NOT AS INTENSE MULTIFAMILY? CAN YOU BE MORE SPECIFIC? LIKE YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S MF 33 AROUND? YEAH, THERE'S A, THERE IS A MASSIVE WHAT APPEARS TO BE AN, UH, MF 33 DEVELOPMENT OFF OF, UH, BERNARDO ARRESTEE ROAD, A BLOCK AWAY TO THE EAST, AND THEN TO THE, UM, TO THE BLOCK DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH. THERE IS A, A NICE LITTLE CHUNK OF MF 33 ON THE CORNER. I'M [00:15:01] JUST TRYING TO SEE IF THERE'S, IF THERE'S SOME, SOME MORE HIGH DENSITY KIND OF CREEPING INTO THE AREA. UH, OR IS THIS, IS THIS GONNA BE LIKE THE FIRST ONE? I'LL TAKE THAT. UM, I CAN TELL YOU THAT WITHIN THIS IMMEDIATE AREA, IF YOU LOOK NORTHEAST, SOUTHWEST, IT'S ALL LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. SO ALTHOUGH YOU DO SEE SOME OF THAT ALONG VERNADO AND THE OTHER STREET, UM, THERE OUTSIDE OF THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORHOOD. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COMMISSIONER GARCIA? UH, A CONCERN IS YOUR MICROPHONE ON, I'M SORRY, INCREASING OF THE DENSITY? UH, I THINK IT'S GOING TO CREEP INTO THIS TYPE OF NEIGHBORHOOD. SO AT THIS POINT, I, I DON'T FAVOR THAT COMMISSIONER FAULKNER NO QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? UM, I HAVE MORE OF A STATEMENT THAN A QUESTION. UM, AND, UM, MY STATEMENT IS THAT INITIALLY I WAS OPPOSED TO, UM, MAKING IT POSSIBLE OR HELPING YOU GET TO THE POINT OF SUBDIVIDING THE PROPERTY, BUT THERE WAS A STATEMENT THAT YOU MADE IN YOUR PRESENTATION LAST TIME THAT CHANGED MY MIND, AND THAT WAS THAT, UM, BY HAVING THIS PROPERTY WITH TWO DWELLING UNITS ON IT, THEN THE TYPE OF ENTITY THAT WOULD BE INTERESTED IN PURCHASING THE PROPERTY WOULD BE MORE OF AN INVESTOR TYPE OF PERSON. WHEREAS BY SUBDIVIDING THE PROPERTY, IT OPENS IT UP TO MORE OF A HOMEOWNER OWNER OCCUPIED TYPE OF PURCHASE. AND GIVEN THAT WE HAVE A SHORTAGE OF ADEQUATE HOUSING IN OUR CITY, AND GIVEN THAT DOWNTOWN AREA OR NEAR DOWNTOWN AREA IS THE PERFECT PLACE TO DO A GENTLE DENSITY INCREASE, THAT'S WHAT CHANGED MY MIND TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT, AND I WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT. THANK YOU MR. MILO. I, I AGREE WITH, WITH WHAT COMMISSIONER SIEGEL SAID. QUESTION FOR YOU, MR. MUNOZ, HOW MUCH DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT THESE PROPERTIES WOULD SELL FOR EACH? WE'RE THINKING LIKE EACH HOUSE IS GONNA SELL. WELL, OUR ANTICIPATE IS LIKE BETWEEN 225 TO 250. OKAY. THANK YOU. WELCOME. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF, AND THAT'S REGARDING THE STATEMENT ABOUT THE ZONING COMMISSION CONSIDERATION. UM, COULD YOU EXPLAIN HOW THE, THE ZONING COMMISSION, DID THEY DETERMINE BASED ON PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO DENY OR DID THEY DETERMINE THE DENIAL AS AN INDEPENDENT BODY? THEY DETERMINED, THEY DETERMINED THEIR RECOMMENDATION INDEPENDENTLY FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION. I MEAN IT AS PER STANDARD, WE DO NOTIFY THE ZONING COMMISSION ON HOW THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, PROCEEDED AND THE OUTCOME. BUT AGAIN, THE ZONING COMMISSION MADE THEIR RECOMMENDATION INDEPENDENTLY FROM WHAT PLANNING COMMISSION STATED. SO THE ZONING COMMISSION DID NOT SAY, WELL, BECAUSE IT APPEARS THAT PLANNING COMMISSION WAS THE, THE VOTE WAS A POSSIBLE DENIAL. WE'RE GONNA VOTE TO DENY IT. THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, I THINK, UH, WHAT THE COMMISSIONER SIEGEL AND MILAM SAID WAS APPROPRIATE. I MEAN, AGAIN, I THINK DENSITY, I MEAN, COULD BE AN ISSUE. IF THESE PROPERTIES WERE TORN DOWN, UH, AND THE CITY COUNCIL WAS TO APPROVE THE IDZ, YOU'D HAVE ADDITIONAL DENSITY. BUT PUTTING INTO TWO PARCEL SEEMS TO MAKE SENSE, UH, FROM, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING ADEQUATE HOUSING INVENTORY IN THE CITY. MM-HMM. , UM, WHATEVER ACTION WE DO TAKE THOUGH, UH, DO ENCOURAGE YOU TO TRY TO WORK AGAIN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ESPECIALLY THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION TO, UM, SUPPORT THIS PROJECT AND TO LISTEN TO ANY OF THEIR CONCERNS THEY MAY HAVE. SO, APPRECIATE IT. AT THIS TIME, I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION I MOVE TO APPROVE THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST. SECOND MOTION TO APPROVE APPLICANT'S REQUEST BY COMMISSIONER SIEGEL. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MILAM. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES. COMMISSIONER MILAM? YES. COMMISSIONER ORIAN? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES? NO. COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? YES. COMMISSIONER GARCIA? NO. COMMISSIONER FAULKNER? YES. CHAIR PROFIT? YES. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HAVE A GOOD DAY. ITEM 29, ALEXA RATANA PLANNER WIT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER 29 IS A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL [00:20:01] OF A RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE NOMO COMMUNITY PLAN FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO MIXED USE, LOCATED AT 2 5 9 TAF BOULEVARD. THERE WERE 32 NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED WITHIN 200 FEET, AND NO RESPONSE FROM PALM HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THE PROPOSED PLAN AMENDMENT FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO MIXED USE IS REQUESTED TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO IDZ TWO. MEDIUM INTENSITY INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR FOR DWELLING UNITS. THE AREA IS CURRENTLY PREDOMINANTLY LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY USES WITH THE NO SOUTH SALMO COMMUNITY PLAN. THE MIXED USE LAND USE DESIGNATION RECOMMENDS THAT MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS WOULD INCLUDE A MIX OF USES WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT WITH PREFERRED LOCATIONS BEING AT INTERSECTION NODES ALONG MAJOR ARTERIAL ROADWAYS. THE PROPOSAL DOES NOT MEET THE USAGE AND LOCATIONAL CRITERIA AND IS NOT SUITED TO ACCOMMODATE THIS INTENSE LAND USE CATEGORY. STAFF FINDS HIGHER DENSITY COULD BE ACCOMPLISHED BY KEEPING THE EXISTING LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL LAND USE CLASSIFICATION AND REZONING TO KEEP THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF R FOUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS TO PRE TO PREVENT ANY POTENTIAL COMMERCIAL ENCROACHMENT INTO AN ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? YES. THANKS. CAN YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS? YES. UH, MY, MY NAME IS MANUEL RETE. I'M THE, UH, UH, PROPERTY OWNER FOR 2 59 TAFT AND 7 0 8, UH, GARLAND. UH, MY INTENTIONS IS TO BUILD FOUR UNITS THERE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE, WE CAN MAKE IT SOMETHING NICE FOR THE CITY. I HAVE A COUPLE DEALERSHIPS IN THE AREA AND I WOULD LIKE TO, I HAVE FOUR, UH, UH, SIX, SEVEN OTHER PROPERTIES AROUND THE AREA. USED TO MAKE IT LOOK NICE AND DO LIKE, UH, I'M NOT SELLING IT, I JUST KEEP IT FOR, FOR FAMILIES CAN LEAVE AND HAVE AN EXTRA INCOME IN THE NEAR FUTURE. OKAY. UH, I'LL START ON THE RIGHT. COMMISSIONER SIPES, NO QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER MILAM. SO AS STAFF MENTIONED, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU COULD HAVE A CONDITIONAL USE. CAN YOU TELL US WHY THAT WON'T WORK IF YOU'RE PLANNING TO KEEP THE PROPERTY? UH, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, UH, NOT TOO VERY FAMILIAR. I HAVE A, A COMPANY WHO WOULD HELP ME OUT TO DISCERNING, BUT THEY STOPPED HELPING ME. I HAD TO JUST TAKE OVER FOR ME IS WHATEVER'S, I WAS TALKING TO ALEXA AND I WAS TELLING WHATEVER, UH, UH, SITUATION I HAVE TO DO THE FOUR UNITS. I THINK WE HAD TO DO LIKE, UM, IT'S ANOTHER, ANOTHER, UH, SONY THING THAT I FORGOT THE NAME, BUT SHE'S HELPING ME OUT TO, USED TO DO, UH, MAYBE LIKE, UM, FOR, UH, ATTACH DWELLING UNITS ON THE PROPERTY. SO THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE TO YOU TO HAVE THE CONDITIONAL USE TO DO THAT? WHATEVER IT TAKES, YOU KNOW, JUST TO BUILD THE FOUR PROPERTIES. I DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING SPECIAL. I JUST WANNA DO FOUR NICE PROPERTIES TO INCREASE THE VIEW FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. OKAY. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. OH WAIT, WE HAVE MORE COMMISSIONERS. OH, OKAY. OKAY. UM, YOU'VE ANSWERED MY QUESTION, WHICH WAS WHETHER YOU WOULD BE AGREEABLE TO THE ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION. YEAH, I'M VERY, YEAH, VERY FLEXIBLE. MR. FAULKNER. NO QUESTIONS MR. GARCIA. NO QUESTIONS. YEAH. SO A COUPLE QUESTIONS ACROSS, DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET THERE'S AN R FOUR CD. IS THAT A, IS THAT FOR TWO UNITS OR, OR MORE THAN TWO UNITS? AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION IS, IS THERE A LAND USE THAT ALLOWS IDZ THAT DOESN'T ALLOW COMMERCIAL THAT'S AVAILABLE? UNFORTUNATELY, NO. IN THESE OLDER PLANS, UM, THEY DON'T ALLOW. OKAY, WELL THAT ANSWERS THAT. SO YEAH, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT'S ACROSS THE STREET. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S TWO UNITS THERE, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THAT CD RIGHT. I BELIEVE KELLY'S CONFIRMING IT'LL BE JUST A SEC ACTUALLY. AND THEN, AND THEN SIR, FOR YOU, WHEN, UH, WHILE SHE'S LOOKING THAT UP, WAS YOUR GOAL TO SELL THEM OFF AS INDIVIDUAL LOTS OR ARE YOU TRYING TO JUST BUILD FOUR WHETHER THEY'RE OWNED BY ONE ENTITY OR OWNED BY FOUR PEOPLE? NO, ONE ENTITY. OKAY. AND ACTUALLY THE R FOUR IS COUPLE NEIGHBORS DOWN THE ROAD. THEY HAVE APARTMENTS IN THE, LIKE A DWELLING UNITS IN THE BACK IN THAT SAME AREA. YEAH, I WAS, I WAS LOOKING AT, UH, 3 0 1, LIKE LITERALLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM YOU. THERE'S A, THERE'S AN R FOUR ED USE. RIGHT. SO IT LOOKS LIKE ACROSS THE STREET WE HAVE, UM, CONDITIONAL USES FOR DUPLEX, FOURPLEX, AND TRIPLEX, BUT THEY ALL KEEP THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF THE R FOUR. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. LOPEZ. NO QUESTION. [00:25:01] YEAH, I THINK, ARE YOU, DO YOU UNDERSTAND, UH, WHAT WORKS AND STAFF MAY CAN HELP YOU WITH THIS, BUT WITHOUT HAVING TO DO A PLAN AMENDMENT IF YOU ARE APPROVED AT ZONING FOR CONDITIONAL USE BEFORE UNITS? WE DON'T HAVE TO, UM, ACTUALLY WE DON'T HAVE TO DO, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING ACTUALLY . CORRECT. SO THEN THE PLAN AMENDMENT WILL, WOULD NOT BE NEEDED. YOU WOULD JUST AMEND YOUR REQUEST FOR ZONING TO INCLUDE THE BASE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT WITH THE CD FOR THE FOUR UNITS? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT ALEX TOLD ME THIS MORNING, BUT UH, UH, SOMEBODY ELSE WAS HELP AMEND THE CASE AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE ONE WHO FOLLOW FOR THIS, FOR THIS, UH, CODE, YOU KNOW, BUT I WAS TRYING TO NOT PAY THE OTHER FEE AND SAY, HEY, MAYBE I CAN GET AN APPROVAL AND, AND I DON'T HAVE TO PAY THE EXTRA FEES. SO WHAT ARE OUR OPTIONS HERE? THERE ARE NO EXTRA FEES. UH, UNFORTUNATELY HE'S ALREADY LOST OUT ON THE PLAN AMENDMENT APPLICATION FEE THAT WAS ALREADY PAID BECAUSE IT'S BEEN THROUGH THE PROCESS. UM, BUT HE HAS ALREADY PAID FOR THE ZONING FEE AND SO THAT WILL JUST BE PROCESSED BEFORE ZONING COMMISSION. DO WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION? I'M SORRY, WE HAVE, WE HAVE TO TAKE AN ACTION. TAKE AN ACTION. HE COULD JUST WITHDRAW THE REQUEST OR, OKAY. IF YOU WOULD WANNA GO ON RECORD THAT, THAT YOU WILL PURSUE THE R FOUR CD. I THINK THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL BECAUSE THEN WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CHANGING THAT BEFORE IT GOES TO ZONING COMMISSION. UM, HAVE WE ALREADY POSTED AN AGENDA FOR ANYTHING FOR THOSE? KELLY? WHEN IS IT GOING TO Z IF IF ANYTHING, IT'S GONNA BE DELAYED A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE HE HAS A SPECIAL DISTRICT RIGHT NOW HE'S ASKING FOR IDZ. SO IT'S A SPECIAL DISTRICT. UM, AND THAT'S, UM, AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE SCHEDULED FOR THE MAY 7TH MEETING. AND SO BECAUSE OF THAT, UM, IT REQUIRES IN THE CODE REPUBLICATION WHEN IT'S A SPECIAL D DISTRICT. SO WE WILL JUST, UM, REPROCESS THE PUBLICATION AND THE NOTICES FOR THE AMENDED REQUEST THAT HE'LL BE MAKING OFFICIALLY, HE'LL SEND, UM, AN EMAIL TO ALEXA TO LET US KNOW THAT HE'S DOING THAT FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION TODAY. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO TAKE ANY ACTION WHATSOEVER. BUT SIR, IF YOU COULD JUST SPECIFY THAT YOU'RE NOT PURSUING THE PLAN AMENDMENT ANY FURTHER, THEN UH, THE CASE WILL JUST BE WITHDRAWN. OKAY. IS, UM, I DON'T NEED A PLAN AMENDMENT. DID YOU SAY YOU I CAN JUST DO THE OTHER ONE? CORRECT. OKAY. YOU, YOU'LL KEEP THE BASE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT AND THEN GET, DO A CONDITIONAL USE? YES. OKAY. IF YOU'LL JUST STATE FOR THE RECORD THEN THAT YOU'RE WITHDRAWING THE, YOUR PLAN AMENDMENT REQUEST. OKAY. YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO, YEAH. WHAT? YEAH, GUESS YES. YES. YOU'RE, YES, YOU AGREE YOU'RE WITHDRAWING THE REQUEST? YES. OKAY. THANK YOU . THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER 30 I GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. MY NAME IS KELLY SANDERS, PLANNING COORDINATOR WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER 30, GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 14,000 BLOCK OF NACODOCHES ROAD, IS REQUESTING AN APPROVAL FOR A RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE NORTH SECTOR PLAN BY CHANGING THE FUTURE LAND USE CLASSIFICATION FROM SUBURBAN TIER TO GENERAL URBAN TIER. THERE WERE, UM, 47 NOTICE NOTICES SENT OUT RE ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR, FIVE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION. THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET. OUTSIDE 200 FEET. WE DID RECEIVE ONE IN SUPPORT AND 11 OPPOSED. THE PROPOSED LAND USE AMENDMENT FROM SUBURBAN TIER TO GENERAL URBAN TIER IS REQUESTED TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO MXD MIXED USE DISTRICT WITH A MAXIMUM DENSITY OF 25 UNITS PER ACRE. GIVEN THE SURROUNDING MIX OF HIGHER DENSITY, MULTIFAMILY, AND INTENSE COMMERCIAL USES, THE PROPOSED PLAN AMENDMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH LAND USE IN THE AREA. ADDITIONALLY, THE MXD SITE PLAN ALSO PROPOSES C ONE LIGHT COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, A LOWER INTENSITY LAND USE THAT ALIGNS WITH THE EXISTING C TWO COMMERCIAL AND C3 GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS WITHIN PROXIMITY. IN REGARD TO THE EXISTING USES IN ZONING DISTRICTS LOCATED ALONG NACODOCHES ROAD, THE PROPOSED GENERAL URBAN TIER IS MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THE AREA THAN THE EXISTING SUBURBAN TIER LAND USE. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, KELLY. GOT IT? GOT IT. COOL. IF YOU WANNA DRIVE THIS IS THERE. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. KEVIN DENDA ORTIZ MCKNIGHT, ONE 12 EAST PECAN STREET REPRESENTATIVE [00:30:01] FOR THE APPLICANT ATLANTIC PACIFIC COMMUNITIES. UM, I DO HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION, A WALKTHROUGH, UH, RELATED TO THIS PROJECT. DO YOU MIND IF I SAY THIS WAY? HERE ON THIS INITIAL SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SITE. IT'S APPROXIMATELY FOUR AND A HALF ACRES LOCATED JUST SOUTHWEST OF JUDSON ROAD AND NACODOCHES ROAD WITHIN DISTRICT 10. YOU CAN SEE THAT THE SITE HAS WHOLE, IS WHOLLY FRONTING ON NACODOCHES ROAD AND IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED AND VACANT. UH, WE ARE IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF THE SPRING CREEK, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, THERE IS ALSO A VACANT PARCEL TO OUR EAST, UH, ALONG WITH A UH, SPRING CREEK VET CLINIC, UH, FURTHER TO OUR EAST ACROSS THE ROAD THERE ARE SOME APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND COMMERCIAL RESTAURANTS AND TO OUR WEST IS A, UH, DAYCARE CENTER. AS STAFF MENTIONED, WE ARE REQUESTING A PLAN AMENDMENT FROM SUBURBAN TIER TO GENERAL URBAN TIER TO BRING THE, UH, LAND USE INTO ALIGNMENT WITH THE NORTH SECTOR PLAN AND THE LAND USES THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON THE GROUND TODAY. SO ON THIS SLIDE YOU'LL SEE THE PROPERTY AND THE CURRENT LAND USE DESIGNATION WITHIN THE NORTH SECTOR PLAN. AS YOU CAN SEE, WE ARE DESIGNATED SUBURBAN TIER WITHIN NORTH SECTOR PLAN A PLAN WHICH WAS ADOPTED IN 2010. OUR OVERALL REQUEST IS TO CHANGE THAT LAND USE DESIGNATION FROM SUBURBAN TIER TO GENERAL URBAN TIER, UM, WHICH WILL BRING US INTO ALIGNMENT WITH THE GOALS OF THE NORTH SECTOR PLAN, BUT ALSO ALLOW, UH, INCIDENTALLY, THE PROPOSED PROJECT FOR THIS SITE, WHICH IS AN 85 UNIT MULTIFAMILY APARTMENT DEVELOPMENT. UH, SINCE THE NORTH SECTOR PLAN WAS ADOPTED IN 2010, THIS AREA, LIKE OTHERS IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, HAS EXPERIENCED GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT, UH, AND HAS RESULTED IN THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT SO MUCH SO THAT THE SUBURBAN TIER LAND USE IS NOW INCONSISTENT WITH, UH, WHAT IS IN THE AREA. THIS SLIDE HIGHLIGHTS THE EXISTING ZONING AND UM, SOMEWHAT THE LAND USES THAT ARE IN, UH, CURRENTLY ON THE GROUND IN THE AREA. UH, MORE TO THE POINT THE ZONING MAP HIGHLIGHTS THE INCONSISTENCY OF THE ZONING DISTRICTS AND THE PERMITTED LAND USES WITHIN THE SUBURBAN TIER LAND USE SUBURBAN TIER PERMITS, PRIMARILY LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL LAND USES. SO THINK R THREE, R FOUR, R FIVE, PRIMARILY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING. UM, SOME COMMERCIAL AND MULTIFAMILY MULTI MULTIPLE PROPERTIES IN THE AREA. UM, HAVE A ZONING DESIGNATION THAT ARE NOT ALLOWED IN SUBURBAN TIER. SPECIFICALLY IF, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE ARE MULTIPLE C3 ZONED PROPERTIES. UM, AND EVEN THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ARE CORRECTLY ZONED FOR SUBURBAN TIER THINK THE, THE C TWO PROPERTIES ACROSS THE STREET ARE DEVELOPED WITH, UH, USES THAT ARE NOT PERMITTED WITHIN THE SUBURBAN TIER LAND USE. SPECIFICALLY THOSE C TWO PROPERTIES ARE DEVELOPED WITH APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT ARE AT A HIGHER DENSITY THAN WHAT IS PERMITTED IN SUBURBAN TIER. SO GETTING BACK TO OUR PROPERTY, THE, UH, REQUESTED GENERAL URBAN TIER LAND USE AND THE CORRESPONDING MULTIFAMILY PROJECT, WHICH WE'RE PROPOSING WILL MEET THE NORTH SECTOR PLAN GOALS, UH, AS HIGHLIGHTED IN STAFF'S REPORT, UH, BUT SPECIFICALLY THE PROPOSED PROJECT AND THE REQUESTED PLAN AMENDMENT WILL PROVIDE A DIVERSE HOUSING STOCK USING INFILL DEVELOPMENT BETWEEN LOOP 1604 AND LOOP FOUR 10 AND PROVIDE HIGH DENSITY HOUSING NEAR ARTERIAL UH, ROADWAYS AND EMPLOYMENT AREAS. UM, NACODOCHES ROAD IS A SECONDARY ARTERIAL AND THERE IS ONE THING THAT I DO WANT TO NOTE ABOUT THE HIGH DENSITY. UM, THAT IS A TERM THAT'S USED IN THE NORTH SECTOR PLAN AS IT RELATES TO, UH, THE GENERAL URBAN TIER, UH, OR THE GOAL. UM, BUT THE PROJECT AS WE'RE PROPOSING IS 85 UNITS SPREAD ACROSS FOUR AND A HALF ACRES, WHICH COMES OUT TO ROUGHLY 19 UNITS AN ACRE. SO IT'S JUST ONE UNIT ABOVE WHAT IS OTHERWISE PERMITTED IN THE LAND USE PLAN. ZONING DISTRICTS PERMITTED IN GENERAL URBAN TIER, PRIMARILY, UH, RESIDENTIAL, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IS SOME ALLOWANCE FOR EXPANDED MULTI-FAMILY USES, SPECIFICALLY THE MF 25 USE, UH, ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH WE ARE REQUESTING. UH, THE PROPOSED PROJECT AND REQUESTED MF 25 ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL URBAN TIER LAND USE. UNDERSTANDABLY, AND AS COMMISSIONER PROFIT NOTED AT THE OUTSET, PLANNING COMMISSION'S PURVIEW IS MORE RELATED TO LAND USE AND NOT ZONING. HOWEVER, [00:35:01] I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED SOME FEEDBACK AND SEEN A MAJORITY OF THE FEEDBACK REGARDING THIS PROJECT ONLINE. UM, AND SOME OF THAT FEEDBACK, UM, IF NOT ALL OF IT IS BETTER ADDRESSED AT THE ZONING SECTION. BUT IN ANTICIPATION OF WHAT YOU MAY HEAR FROM RESIDENTS WHO ARE SIGNED UP, I DO WANT TO PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT. SO THE OVERALL ZONING AND PROJECT WE ARE REQUESTING TO REZONE THIS SITE FROM C TWO CD. UH, CURRENTLY IT HAS A GENERAL, IT HAS A CONDITIONAL USE FOR OUTDOOR AUTO, BOAT AND RV STORAGE. AND WE'RE REQUESTING TO REZONE THE SITE TO MXD WITH USES PERMITTED IN MF 25 AND C ONE. THE C ONE REQUEST IS TO ALLOW FOR AN ONSITE PRE-K OVERALL, THE PROJECT WILL BE 85 UNITS, UH, 85 APARTMENT UNITS, WHICH COMES OUT TO ROUGHLY 19 UNITS AN ACRE. UH, THE BUILDING ITSELF WILL BE THREE STORIES, 35 FEET SITUATED CLOSEST TO NACODOCHES ROAD. UM, THE ENTRANCE WILL BE SOLELY BY WAY OF NACODOCHES ROAD WITH A GATED, UH, GATED ENTRANCE AND PERIMETER FENCE. UH, AS I MENTIONED, WE HAVE SEEN AND RECEIVED SOME COMMENTS, UH, FROM NEIGHBORS IN THE AREA ABOUT THE PROJECT AND I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED. UH, THEY HAVE TO DO WITH TRAFFIC, DRAINAGE, DENSITY, FENCING, TREES, AND LOW INCOME HOUSING. I'LL ADDRESS THOSE IN TURN VERY QUICKLY. TRAFFIC, WE'VE, WE HAVEN'T DONE A FULL TIAA FULL TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WILL BE DONE CLOSER TO THE PLATTING STAGE, BUT WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS COMMISSIONED A TRAFFIC REPORT, WHICH FOUND THAT A MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING COMPLEX WITH 85 UNITS WOULD PRODUCE ROUGHLY 30% OF THE TRAFFIC OF A C TWO COMMERCIAL ZONED PROPERTY. UH, THINK C TWO COMMERCIAL ZONE PROPERTY ALLOWS FOR FAST FOOD RESTAURANT WITH A DRIVE THROUGH. SO THIS WOULD ACTUALLY BE A REDUCED TRAFFIC COUNT DRAINAGE. THERE IS A DRAINAGE EASEMENT ALONG THE EASTERN BOUNDARY LINE. UH, IT'S SHOWN ON OUR SITE PLAN THERE. THAT IS WHERE THE NATURAL TOPOGRAPHY OF THE SITE DRAINS INTO, AND THAT'S WHERE, UH, THE SITE WILL DRAIN DENSITY AND HEIGHT. I'VE MENTIONED IT'S 85 UNITS, COMES OUT TO ROUGHLY 19 UNITS AN ACRE. OUR HEIGHT IS 35 FEET. THREE STORIES, UH, JUST FOR NOTE, THAT IS WHAT IS PERMITTED IN THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL ZONED PROPERTIES AS WELL. FENCING, WE WILL HAVE FULL PERIMETER FENCING AND GATED ENTRANCES, UH, TREES AND PLANTING. WE WILL COMPLY WITH THE CITY'S 2010 TREE ORDINANCE. UH, AND ONE THING TO NOTE, WE WILL ALSO INCLUDE A 15 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER ALONG OUR NORTHERN LOT LINE, UH, CLOSEST TO THE SPRING CREEK NEIGHBORHOOD. WE'RE STILL PLANTING WHAT TYPE OF TREES TO PUT IN THAT BUFFER AREA, BUT IT WILL BE A NON-DEVELOPMENT BUFFER AREA THAT IS NO BUILDING, NO PARKING. UH, AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST BECAUSE THIS IS THE MAJORITY OF THE CONCERN THAT WE HAVE HEARD IS LOW INCOME HOUSING. UM, THIS IS PART, THIS PROJECT IS PART OF THE STATE'S LOW INCOME TAX CREDIT HOUSING PROJECT. IT IS NOT SECTION EIGHT HOUSING. UM, WHAT THAT MEANS IS RESIDENTS WITHIN THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL BE REQUIRED TO MAKE AT OR BELOW 60% OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME FOR SAN ANTONIO NEW BRAUNFELS METROPOLITAN AREA. UM, WE CAN GO INTO MORE DETAIL ABOUT THAT, BUT THAT IS THE PRIMARY CONCERN THAT WE'VE HEARD ABOUT THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, UM, THE TYPE OF PEOPLE THAT A DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS WOULD BRING TO THE AREA. I WANT TO TOUCH BRIEFLY ON THE EFFORT HISTORY THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH ON THIS PROJECT. WE STARTED THIS PROJECT IN EARNEST IN JANUARY, 2024. AT JANUARY 31ST, 24. WE HELD A PUBLIC MEETING, UM, TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS THAT WERE SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPONENT OF THIS PROJECT. UH, NOTICES WERE MAILED TO RESIDENTS IN THE AREA, NOT JUST WITHIN 200 FEET, UH, EVEN OUTSIDE OF 200 FEET. UH, NO INDIVIDUALS CAME TO THAT MEETING. UH, WE WERE THERE FOR ROUGHLY AN HOUR, UM, AND NO ONE SHOWED UP. SO FROM FEBRUARY 1ST THROUGH MARCH 7TH, WE HELD AN INTERNAL MEETING DISCUSSING THE PROJECT, UM, AND VETTING WHETHER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. UH, DO WANT TO NOTE THAT WHEN THIS PROJECT WAS FIRST INTERNALLY BROUGHT, UM, IT WAS A FOUR STORY COMPLEX, UH, BUT AFTER DISCUSSIONS WE AGREED THAT A THREE STORY COMPLEX MADE MORE SENSE CONSIDERING THE TYPES OF BUILDINGS THAT ARE IN THE AREA. UM, AND THERE WAS REALLY NO PRECEDENT FOR A FOUR STORY, UH, COMPLEX. UH, WE FILED OUR ZONING APPLICATION MARCH 8TH. UH, WE RECEIVED, WE RECEIVED NOTICE OF SPRING CREEK OPPOSITION ON APRIL 3RD AND BEGAN REACHING [00:40:01] OUT APRIL 3RD AND ALSO REACHED OUT VIA A HARD COPY MAILED LETTER TO THE 10 ADJACENT RESIDENCES WITHIN SPRING CREEK ON APRIL 9TH. SO TO CLOSE AND SUM UP, OUR OVERALL REQUEST IS TO AMEND THE LAND USE FROM SUBURBAN TIER TO GENERAL URBAN TIER. THE PLAN AMENDMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN THE AREA, WILL SATISFY GOALS OF THE NORTH SECTOR PLAN AND COMPLEMENT VARIOUS ZONING DISTRICTS IN THE AREA. CITY STAFF IS IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUESTED PLAN AMENDMENT AND THE NEXT STEPS FOR THE PROJECT ARE ZONING COMMISSION, WHICH IS SCHEDULED FOR MAY 7TH AND CITY COUNCIL, WHICH IS SCHEDULED FOR JUNE 6TH. UH, OF NOTE WE HAVE RECEIVED, AS I MENTIONED, SOME INPUT FROM RESIDENTS WITHIN THE SPRING CREEK NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, BUT THE MAJORITY OF IT HAS BEEN ONLINE. WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO THOSE RESIDENTS. UM, HAVE I RECEIVED SOME RESPONSES, THOUGH NOT AS MUCH AS WE WOULD LIKE. UH, WE ARE COMMITTED TO KEEPING IN CONTACT WITH SPRING CREEK AND WOULD LIKE TO GET INPUT ON THE PROJECT FROM RESIDENTS IN THE AREA, CONSIDERING WE DO WANT TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS. AND TO THAT POINT, WE WILL, WE WILL WORK TO SET A MEETING PRIOR TO ZONING, EVEN IF THAT MEANS CONTINUING OUR ZONING MEETING TO A LATER DATE. UM, RESPECTFULLY, WE'RE REQUESTING PLANNING COMMISSION SUPPORT FOR THE REQUESTED PLAN AMENDMENT. UH, I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT BEFORE I DISMISS MYSELF, UH, DANIEL ORTIZ IS ALSO WITH ME ALONG WITH MEMBERS OF THE DEVELOPMENT GROUP AND WE'RE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU KEVIN. UH, WE HAVE SOME VOICEMAILS TO HEAR QUICKLY. UH, JUST TO CONFIRM, ANYBODY WHO'S SIGNED UP HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, YOU DID NOT LEAVE A VOICEMAIL? CORRECT? DID ANYBODY LEAVE A VOICEMAIL? DID YOU SIGN UP TO SPEAK? I SIGNED, YES. WHAT WOULD YOU PREFER US TO PLAY YOUR VOICEMAIL OR TO HAVE YOU SPEAK FOR TWO MINUTES OR FOR THE, UH, THREE MINUTES. THREE MINUTES. WHAT'S YOUR NAME, MA'AM. AND YOUR NAME? MA'AM. SUSAN. SO AGAIN, DO YOU WANT YOUR VOICEMAIL TO BE PLAYED OR DO YOU WANNA SPEAK? OKAY, THANK YOU. MY ADDRESS IS 57 0 6 SPRING MOON 7 8 2 4 7. THE CASE NUMBER I'M CALLING REGARDING LAST THREE DIGITS ARE 0 1 6. IT IS REGARDING A REZONING FOR, UM, THE BLOCK OF 14,000 BLOCK OF OSIS ROAD. I AM CALLING TO SAY I'M IN OPPOSITION OF THIS MY HOUSE BUS STOP PROPERTY AND HONESTLY, WE'VE HAD MUCH MORE ACTIVITY OVER HERE WITH CRIME AND, AND PROBLEMS IN, IN THE AREA. AND I'M NOT GONNA ATTRIBUTE IT TO ANYTHING OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, THE TIMES ARE TOUGH FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, HAVING AN APARTMENT BUILDING ADDED TO ALL OF THIS CONGESTION AND, AND, YOU KNOW, INCREASED PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE HAVING IS REALLY BOTHERSOME TO ME. I'VE LIVED HERE OVER 10 YEARS. I'VE ALWAYS FELT RELATIVELY SAFE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU KNOW, AS IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS OR SO, I DON'T FEEL LIKE I CAN EVEN WALK MY DOG ANYMORE AFTER EIGHT 30. UM, OF COURSE THERE WAS A BODY FOUND NOT FAR FROM MY HOME ALSO ON OSIS. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, YOU KNOW, I AM OPPOSED TO THIS DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS SALVA, THAT'S SPELLED P-H-A-L-D-A, HENDERSON, H-E-N-D-E-R-S-O-N. I LIVE AT 5 8 1 8 SPRING VALLEY, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 4 7. I DO HAVE A CALIFORNIA NUMBER THOUGH. IT'S 7 1 4 3 2 9 2 2 5 1. I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE MY CURRENT OPINION ABOUT YOUR PLANNING CASE NUMBER 0 1 6. UM, I, RIGHT NOW I AM TOTALLY AGAINST IT. I NEED MORE INFORMATION. I UNDERSTAND HOW THESE THINGS WORK AND I THINK IT'S WRONG THAT ONLY THE PEOPLE WITHIN 200 FEET GET NOTIFIED. I THINK EVERYBODY WITHIN AT LEAST MINIMUM TWO MILES SHOULD BE NOTIFIED BECAUSE WE WILL BE THE ONES MOST IMPACTED BY THIS DEVELOPMENT. THE WAY I READ IT RIGHT NOW, UH, IT WILL BE OVER A HUNDRED PARKING SPACES. I NEED TO KNOW HOW DOES IT IMPACT POLICE ENFORCEMENT TRAFFIC ON NACODOCHES FIRE DEPARTMENT CONCERNS, UH, BECAUSE IT IS KIND OF AN ODD PLACE. AND THEN ALSO, WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE THREE [00:45:01] STORIES TALL? WHY CAN'T IT BE ONE STORY? BECAUSE MOST OF THE HOUSES IN THE AREA ARE, ONE FEW OF 'EM ARE TWO, BUT THREE STORIES IS TOO MUCH OF AN INFRINGEMENT. ALSO TO NOTE ABOUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THERE, THERE IS A AFFORDABLE HOUSING AREA ACROSS OSIS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET. AND FOR OUR AREA, I ALSO GET THE POLICE REPORT FOR WITHIN FIVE MILES FROM MY HOUSE. AND THAT IS THE AREA WITH THE MOST CRIME IN IT CURRENTLY. SO I WOULD LIKE MORE INFORMATION. THE OTHER THING THAT REALLY UPSETS ME ABOUT THIS WHOLE THING IS WE WERE NOT NOTIFIED VERY QUICKLY, AND THIS HAS BEEN IN IN PROGRESS SINCE MARCH, BUT WHY ARE ALL OF THE MEETINGS FOR EVERYTHING PLANNING, ZONING, EVERYTHING LAID ONLY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY WHEN PEOPLE WHO WORK CAN'T GET THERE TO EXPRESS THEIR OPINIONS? YES, IT'S THROUGH THIS, BUT THERE ARE SO MANY QUESTIONS THAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE I HAVE THAT I HAVEN'T EVEN THOUGHT OF. AND I NEED TO HEAR FROM THE DEVELOPER THEMSELVES, WHAT ARE THEIR ANSWERS? NOT SOMETHING THROUGH A THIRD PARTY. UH, I HAVE HEARD THINGS THROUGH ANOTHER PARTY ABOUT THIS DEVELOPER AND I WANT TO KNOW THEIR TAKE ON IT BEFORE I, I, THEY'RE MY NEIGHBORS AND I BELIEVE THEM BECAUSE I TRUST THEM. I DON'T TRUST THIS COMPANY. SO IF YOU COULD, UM, PUT, PUT MY VOTE IN FOR NO, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HI, MY NAME IS MARIA C NAMME AND MY ADDRESS IS 57 18 SPRING MOON, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS SEVEN EIGHT TWO FOUR SEVEN. MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 248-7567. AND I'M CALLING REGARDING THE CASE NUMBER PA 20 24 1 1 6 0 0 0 1 6. I HAVE BEEN AN OWNER SINCE, UH, 2016 AND I AM IN OPPOSITION OF THIS IF THANK YOU. HELLO, THIS IS LISA BOND. MY ADDRESS IS 58 0 7 SPRING VALLEY AND I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO CASE NUMBER 0 1 6. AND THIS IS, UM, FOR PUTTING THE APARTMENTS ON NACODOCHES. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I AM VERY OPPOSED TO THIS. FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE SO MANY APARTMENTS GOING UP ON STALL. WE HAVE A VERY BUSY STREET ON NACODOCHES WITH HUNDREDS OF APARTMENTS THERE. THE APARTMENT'S ON STALL. I FEEL LIKE YOU ARE TURNING OUR AREA INTO A CONCRETE JUNGLE. THERE IS NO GREEN SPACE. NOTHING YOU CAN SEE ANYMORE WITH ANY GREEN. IF YOU TAKE AWAY THAT AREA ON NACODOCHES, IT'S GREEN. IT DOESN'T STEAL THIS FROM TRAFFIC. IT'S, IT'S TOO MUCH. WE'RE TURNING INTO HOUSTON. I WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU ALL WOULD KEEP SAN ANTONIO, UM, RESIDENTIAL AND FEELING LIKE HOME. UH, APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. HELLO, MY NAME IS LAURA AG. I LIVE IN THE SPRING CREEK, UM, AREA. UM, FOR THIS ACREAGE THAT'S UNDER DEBATE. I'M RIGHT NEXT TO IT, TWO STREETS UP. UM, I AM VERY DISTRESSED ABOUT, UM, THIS DEVELOPMENT. UM, I KNOW MANY PEOPLE ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH COMMUNITY PLANNING, UH, CLASSES. UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THEY EMPHASIZE IS THAT OVERCROWDING IS NOT GOOD. AND ACCORDING TO REFERENCES OF COURSE, THERE'S THE SPREAD OF INFECTIOUS DISEASES, PSYCHOLOGICAL DISTRESS, VIOLENCE, WHICH INCLUDES CRIME BREAKDOWN IN RELATIONSHIP, POOR SLEEP, SLOW DEVELOPMENT. AND YOU'RE SAYING, OH, WHAT'S THAT HAVE TO DO WITH IT? IT'S ONLY 84 UNITS AND A DAYCARE. WELL, IF YOU ADD FOUR UNITS NOTES, IT ADDS TO THE HUNDREDS OF APARTMENTS THAT ARE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET ON OSIS ROAD. UM, AND THERE ARE OTHERS POPPING UP AS WELL. UM, HAVE YOU SEEN THAT ENORMOUS APARTMENT COMPLEX APARTMENT THAT'S GOING UP OR THAT'S GOING UP AND HAS BEEN GOING UP? UM, ON SA ROAD ACROSS THE FOX RUN, SUBDIVISION SA ROAD INTERSECT WITH OSIS ROAD AND IT'S ONLY ABOUT A MILE AWAY FROM SPRING CREEK. AND THAT THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX IS EASILY OVER A THOUSAND APARTMENTS. IT'S [00:50:01] JUST ENORMOUS TRAFFIC HAS BEEN BECOMING A NIGHTMARE. THAT'S ENOUGH TO ADD TO YOUR PSYCHOLOGICAL STRESS RIGHT THERE. IT'S, IT'S A NIGHTMARE JUST TO EXIT THE NEIGHBORHOOD BUILDERS AND DEVELOPERS OF PUTTING UP HOUSING IN PRACTICALLY EVERY THUMBPRINT OF SOIL THAT THEY'RE ALLOWED TO. BUT THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO INCLUDE THE 4.4 ACREAGE THAT BORDERS THE SPRING CREEK NEIGHBORHOOD AND SPRINGING FARM NEIGHBORHOODS. UM, IT HAS BENEFIT IN THAT, UM, IT ACTS AS A NOISE BARRIER FROM THE ROAD, UH, DOSES ROAD. IT HELPS DEFLECT A LOT OF THAT NOISE AND THE HEAT DURING THE SUMMERTIME. THAT ACREAGE HELPS, UM, KEEP US COOLER DURING THE SUMMERTIME AND IF YOU ADD CEMENT, THAT'S JUST GOING TO INCREASE THE CLIMATE, UH, CHANGE AND HEAT UP THE WHOLE PLACE ANYWAY. UM, WE'RE ALSO IN, UH, SAN ANTONIO IS IN STAGE TWO DROUGHT RESTRICTIONS AND THE SUMMER HAS NOT EVEN ARRIVED. MANY AREAS AROUND US OR ON THE STAGE. , THAT'S TIME TO THE LAST VOICEMAIL. OH, I'M SORRY. YES. MY NAME IS BELINDA MOLINA. MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 870-3261. I'M JUST CALLING TO OPPOSE THE CASE NUMBER TWO 16TH, THE APARTMENTS ON ES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. UH, WE HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE, UH, SIGN UP TO SPEAK. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. IF YOU CAN STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. UH, JERRY IGA. YES SIR. MY NAME IS JERRY. OH, IF YOU CAN COME TO THE PODIUM PLEASE MA'AM. FEEL LIKE YOU'RE BEING CALLED UP TO THE PRINCIPAL'S OFFICE. BEING TEACHER, RETIRED TEACHER. I'M SORRY. WHAT'S THAT? IF YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. HI. OR YOU CAN ADDRESS THAT TOO. YOU. OKAY. MY NAME IS JERRY AGA AND I LIVE AT 57 54 SPRING MOON. I'VE LIVED IN THAT HOUSE FOR 38 YEARS. I HAD MY HOUSE BUILT. I KNEW WHAT WAS BEHIND ME. I KNEW WITH TIME THERE WOULD BE DEVELOPMENT. I REALIZED THAT THERE WOULD BE TRAFFIC CHANGES. IT TOOK US 10, 12, MAYBE 15 YEARS TO GET A LIGHT ON SPRING FARM AND NACODOCHES AND YOU KNOW, TO GET ANOTHER APARTMENT COMPLEX JUST DOWN THE BLOCK. IN FACT, RIGHT BEHIND MY HOUSE, UH, ONE BEING THREE STORIES. I'M NOT THRILLED ABOUT. TWO THE TRAFFIC, IT'S GONNA BOTTLENECK TRAFFIC LATELY. I THINK THAT SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE FROM MY NEIGHBORHOOD CAN TELL YOU THE SAME THING. WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE GETTING IN AND OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WITH CONSTRUCTION OF THE ROAD EXPANSION. UH, BUT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN VERY FAMILY ORIENTATED. LIKE I CAN'T BE MORE ELOQUENT THAN THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE TALKED AND LEFT MESSAGES. THEY HAVE BASICALLY STATED EVERYTHING I WOULD'VE SAID, YOU KNOW, SO I DON'T WANNA TAKE UP A WHOLE LOT MORE OF YOUR TIME, BUT I DO WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THERE ARE FAMILIES IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE ONLY ONES THAT GOT NOTIFIED WERE LIKE MYSELF AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WERE RIGHT, THAT IT AFFECTS RIGHT BEHIND THE NEIGHBORS ACROSS THE STREET, THE NEIGHBORS DOWN THE BLOCK. NOBODY HEARD ABOUT IT UNTIL MAYBE I OPENED UP A BIG MOUTH BECAUSE I'M GOOD AT THAT. OR OTHER PEOPLE HAD, I MEAN, I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, UH, OR SOME OF MY OTHER NEIGHBORS HAVE HEARD WIND OR THEY'VE BEEN GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO USE THEIR PRINTER AND LEAVE LITTLE PAMPHLETS FOR EVERYBODY TO KNOW. AND THEN QUESTIONS ARE BEING ASKED. I MEAN, NOBODY WANTS IT. THAT CREEK AREA YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT THERE'LL BE STILL WATER FLOW AND EVERYTHING ELSE. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THE HOUSES THAT ARE LIKE MY HOUSE AND MY NEIGHBOR'S HOUSES. IF THEY DO A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION, THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF POUNDING ON THAT GROUND. AND OUR HOUSE'S FOUNDATIONS ARE GONNA SHIFT. THERE'S JUST GONNA BE A LOT OF REPAIRS THAT ARE GONNA HAVE TO BE DONE. AND ARE THEY GONNA BE RESPONSIBLE FOR 'EM? NO, IT'S GONNA BE US. I JUST DON'T THINK IT WAS A RIGHT DECISION. IT'S A RIGHT PLACE. I LIKE THE GREENERY BEHIND MY HOUSE. YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE PICKED THE LOT WHERE WE PICKED IT. AND I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME, BELLYACHE. THANK YOU. THANK, THANK YOU FOR TAKING TIME. APPRECIATE IT. UH, MICHELLE [00:55:01] SCALA. THANKS. MY NAME IS MICHELLE S SCALA. I LIVE AT 57 50 SPRING MOON. I AM JERRY'S NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR. I HAVE A TWO STORY. UM, I HAVE A LOT OF TREES THAT ARE OVER THE FENCE. DOWN A LITTLE. I'M SORRY. OH, I'M SORRY. THERE YOU GO. I HAVE A LOT OF TREES THAT ARE IN MY BACKYARD, WHICH I KNOW WILL BE ELIMINATED. AND I KNOW THAT THE PEOPLE ON THE SECOND FLOOR WILL BE LOOKING RIGHT INTO MY DECK. THAT'S ONE THING. I ALSO DON'T APPRECIATE THE PROFIT THAT THIS COMPANY WOULD MAKE OFF OF OUR, UM, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I UNDERSTAND ABOUT PROGRESS. THERE ARE ALSO A LOT OF HOMES BEING BUILT IN THE JUDSON NACODOCHES AREA. I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS HAS TO BE, UH, REZONED AT ALL. YOU KNOW, WE ALL KNEW I'VE BEEN THERE 30 YEARS THAT ONE DAY SOMEBODY WOULD END UP BUILDING BACK THERE. UM, THE, ACTUALLY THE RV STORAGE WASN'T SUCH A BAD DEAL. I MEAN, RVS ARE GREAT TO LOOK AT. THEY'D BE UNDER UNDERCOVER AND BE TAKEN CARE OF AND I'M SURE THERE'D BE A LOT OF, UM, SECURITY. BUT I JUST, I'M NOT APO, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS AT ALL. AND THE MAIN THING THAT I CAN'T BELIEVE IS THAT THEY'RE HAVING ONE ENTRANCE NOW, A HUNDRED AND WHAT IS 85 UNITS? THERE'S GONNA BE MORE THAN ONE CAR PER UNIT, YOU KNOW, THAT. SO THEY'RE ALL GONNA TRY TO GET OUT TO GO TO WORK IN THE MORNING. IT'S GONNA A MESS BECAUSE NACODOCHES IS THE FALL OFF FROM 35 WHEN THEY'RE BACKED UP. EVERYBODY'S COMING DOWN NACODOCHES TO GET TO, UM, UM, WHAT IS IT? THE, THE FREEWAY THAT GOES ACROSS, UM, WARS, ROCK PARKWAY. SO IT'S TERRIBLE IN THE MORNING AND AT FOUR O'CLOCK. SO I JUST HAVE TO SAY I'M VERY WELL, VERY MUCH OPPOSED TO THIS. AND I HOPE YOU WILL TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. I KNOW YOU'RE THE PLANNING COMMITTEE, NOT THE ZONING PEOPLE, BUT WE REALLY CARE ABOUT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. MICHAEL, IS IT BIGLEY THIS OUT? EVERYBODY? HE CAN PRESENT IT, UH, ON THE SCREEN. OH, YOU CAN? YEAH. I PUT THAT'S MY AGE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CAN DO THESE DAYS WITH YOUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK. OKAY, WE'RE GOOD. GLAD TO HEAR THAT. UM, PLEASE YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE. MY NAME IS MICHAEL BIGLEY. I OWN, UH, THE ADDRESS AT 57 31 SPRING MOON. AND MY SON, WHICH IS HERE, HE'S ACTUALLY GONNA, HE BASICALLY PAYS THE RENT. HE LIVES THERE AT THE ADDRESS, BUT I ACTUALLY OWN THE HOUSE. OH, YOUR, YOUR TIME STARTED. OKAY. SO BASICALLY, UM, WHAT EVERYONE SAID, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, THE NEW LOT THERE ON NACODOCHES AND THEN THE SUBDIVISIONS, THOSE HOUSES ARE GARDEN HOMES. THEY HAVE VERY SHORT BACKYARDS. SO THERE, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A LOT OF SPACE BETWEEN AN APARTMENT COMPLEX AND THE BACKYARD OF THESE HOUSES BEING THAT THEY'RE GARDEN HOMES. AND AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, YOU'VE GOT THE APARTMENT. THIS IS PAGE ONE. YOU CAN SEE HOW THE, ALL THOSE APARTMENTS ARE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM ALL THE APARTMENTS THAT THIS NEW APARTMENT COMPLEX IS GONNA HAVE. I'M NOT SURE WHY THEY PICKED THIS LOT. UH, WHAT THE INCENTIVE WAS THAT THIS WAS PICKED. UM, IT JUST SEEMS TO BE A LITTLE STRANGE. AND BY THE WAY, I KNOW THE REPRESENTATIVE ON THE OTHER SIDE SAID THEY DID SEND OUT A NOTICE TO EVERYBODY ABOUT THAT THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE A HEARING. NOBODY RECEIVED A NOTICE. WE HAVE NOT, WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANYTHING FROM THAT STANDPOINT. SO THAT WAS NOT, THAT WAS UNTRUE FOR WHAT, WHAT HE SAID. THERE WAS NO NOTICE THAT WAS THAT I GOT. AND I HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY NOTICE OR NO ONE ELSE HAS SAID THAT. THERE WAS ALSO NOTICE PAGE TWO, UH, JUST BASICALLY GOES THROUGH. UM, IT'S THE SAME THING, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU THE ENTRANCE AND THE EXIT OF ALL THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS. WE GOT ONE ENTRANCE AND EXIT GOING ONTO, UM, NACODOCHES. AND YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT ACCUMULATION OF TRAFFIC IS GONNA HAVE JUST BECAUSE OF THAT ONE EXIT AND ENTRANCE. WHAT A COUPLE OF THE LADIES WERE SAYING, UH, PAGE THREE, THEY TALKED ABOUT, UM, THIS, THIS WAS A SIMILAR SUB THING THAT HAPPENED TO ANOTHER SUBDIVISION WHERE THEY BUILT A COMPLEX SIMILAR TO WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO HERE. AND IF YOU GO TO PAGE FOUR, IT'S RELATED TO PAGE THREE. IT BA THE LADY BASICALLY SAYS, LET'S SEE, I READ IT PRETTY FAST. MY MOTHER-IN-LAW JUST HAD AN APARTMENT COMPLEX JUST BUILT BEHIND HER HOME. AND, AND LET'S JUST SAY THE WHOLE BACKSIDE OF THE SUB AND THE [01:00:01] BACKSIDE TO THE NEW APARTMENTS HAVE MASSIVE FOUNDATION DAMAGE. NOT ONLY DO YOU RISK HOME DAMAGE BY ALL THE GROUND SHIFTING AND VIBRATION, BUT WHAT OCCURRED TO OUR SCHOOLS, THEY'RE ALREADY OVERFLOWED. SO BASICALLY THIS LOOKS TO BE, THAT'S A VERY SIMILAR SITUATION THAT'S BEEN DAMAGING FOUNDATIONS AND OTHERWISE. AND THINK ABOUT THE, UH, HOW WORRISOME THAT WOULD BE TO OUR NEIGHBORS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, MITCHELL BIGLEY. OH, JOSE, ARE YOU PICKING UP? YEAH, I WAS GONNA PICK UP. NO, YOU'RE GOOD. YES. MY NAME IS MITCHELL BIGLEY AND I LIVE AT 57 31 SPRING MOON STREET. AND LIKE MY FATHER SAID, UM, THERE ARE, SO WE HAVE THOSE APARTMENTS THAT ARE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET. OKAY. THEY'RE JUST A LOT OF CONGESTION IN THIS AREA. I'VE LIVED HERE FOR ABOUT SEVEN YEARS, SINCE 2017. AND THE CONGESTION'S GETTING WORSE AND WORSE. UM, LIKE, LIKE HE SAID, WE'RE NOT SURE WHY THE DEVELOPER IS SO FOCUSED ON THIS LITTLE GREEN SPOT. UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE, I THINK THERE'S A LOT, THERE'S LAND THAT'S ALREADY ZONED AROUND SAN ANTONIO THAT WOULD NOT, THAT IS NOT DIRECTLY ON TOP OF HOUSES, LITERALLY IN THEIR BACKYARD WHERE THEY COULD GO AND THEY COULD, THEY COULD BUILD THIS PROJECT. THIS IS JUST, THIS SPOT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. IT DOESN'T, THERE WOULD BE NO POSITIVE IMPACT. UM, YOU KNOW, WE UNDERSTAND SAN ANTONIO HAS AN INITIATIVE FOR, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND BUILDING APARTMENTS BECAUSE PEOPLE NEED THEIR, THE HOMES. BUT THERE IS, THERE'S JUST BETTER SPOTS, UM, THAT, THAT THEY COULD DO IT. THIS DEVELOPER, UM, AND UH, I DON'T KNOW IF HE PUT, I DON'T KNOW IF HE PUT THIS, UH, SLIDE IN HERE, BUT THOSE APARTMENTS THAT ARE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET ABOUT HALF A, THERE'S A, THERE'S FOUR OTHERS THAT ARE SIDE BY SIDE AS YOU GO DOWN NADOS TO O'CONNOR. SO YOU HAVE THOSE TWO APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT ARE, I DON'T KNOW IF HE PUT THAT SHEET IN THERE, BUT THERE'S A ZOOMED OUT GOOGLE MAPS AND THERE'S LITERALLY FOUR OTHERS THAT ARE SIDE BY SIDE THAT GO DOWN. AND SO IT'S VERY CONGESTED ALREADY. AND LIKE I SAID, THERE, WE, WE THINK THIS DEVELOPER, THERE'S BETTER SUITED LAND THAT WOULD, THEY COULD BUILD THEIR PROJECT THAT WOULD NOT CAUSE UM, ALL THESE POTENTIAL ISSUES FOR OUR NEIGHBORS IN OUR COMMUNITY IN THIS AREA. UM, AND THEN WE, WE DID PUT, WE DID PUT ALL THESE COMMENTS. WE, LIKE I SAID, THE, THE DEVELOPER DID NOT GIVE US NOTICE. UM, WE, NO ONE THAT I SPOKE TO AROUND SPRING MOON ACTUALLY RECEIVED ANYTHING FROM THE DEVELOPER EXPLAINING EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO. I THINK BECAUSE THEY KNOW PEOPLE WOULD BE AGAINST IT. I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD REALLY RECEIVE ANY POSITIVE FEEDBACK. SO WE WENT TO NEXT DOOR TO NOTIFY EVERYBODY AS WE THE BEST WE COULD. AND THEN WE GOT A TON OF PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST AGAINST IT. UM, SO THANKS FOR LETTING ME SPEAK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. UH, MR. DEANNA, YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO RESPOND TO SOME OF THOSE COMMENTS. THANK YOU. CHAIR AGAIN. KEVIN DENDA ORTIZ MCKNIGHT REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE APPLICANT. YEAH, JUST TO BRIEFLY TOUCH ON A FEW THINGS THAT WERE MENTIONED BY THOSE IN OPPOSITION, ESPECIALLY REGARDING THE NOTIFICATION. WE WERE ABLE TO CLARIFY THAT UH, FROM THAT JANUARY 31ST MEETING, NOTICE WAS SENT TO RESIDENTS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROJECT SITE, UH, BUT ALSO TO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS. SO I WANT TO TOUCH ON THAT POINT. SPRING CREEK IS NOT A REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, SO THAT MAY BE WHY SOME RESIDENTS DID NOT GET NOTIFICATION OF THAT MEETING. UH, ONE OTHER THING TO NOTE, WE DID REACH OUT INDIVIDUALLY TO THE 10 HOMES THAT WE ABUT, UH, WITHIN SPRING CREEK. WE MAILED THEM, UH, A PAMPHLET INDICATING WHAT THE ZONING REQUEST WAS, WHAT OUR PROJECT WAS, UH, LEFT OUR CONTACT INFORMATION FOR THEM, UH, TO REACH OUT TO US. OVERALL, YOU HEARD A LOT OF OPPOSITION FROM THOSE WHO SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. UH, AND QUITE FRANKLY, THAT OPPOSITION IS MORE CONCERNED WITH ZONING. SOMETHING THAT WE WILL, UH, HAVE TO TAKE UP WHEN WE GO BEFORE ZONING COMMISSION BEFORE YOU TODAY WE ARE REQUESTING A LAND USE AMENDMENT FROM, UH, SUBURBAN TIER TO GENERAL URBAN TIER. UH, WHICH [01:05:01] AS STAFF HAS MENTIONED IN THEIR REPORT, BUT ALSO HIGHLIGHTED IN OUR PRESENTATION, UH, IS MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL, UM, DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS GONE ON IN THE AREA AND THE GROWTH THAT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO HAS EXPERIENCED. SO JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, WE ARE COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE OPPOSED OR WHO SUPPORT US. UH, AND TO THAT END, UH, WE ARE WORKING TO SCHEDULE A MEETING, UH, WITH THOSE RESIDENTS AND WE'LL DO SO BEFORE WE GO, BEFORE ZONING COMMISSION. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, I'LL START ON THE LEFT. COMMISSIONER LOPEZ COMMISSIONER QUESTION. YEAH, SO I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. SO, UM, THEY'VE GOT 6.9 ACRES IN THEIR ZONE C TWO, WHICH ALLOWS FOR A, UH, A DAYCARE. IT ALSO ALLOWS FOR APARTMENTS UP TO 10 UNITS AN ACRE. IF THEY BUILT A DAYCARE, COULD THEY STILL PUT 69 UNITS THERE UNDER ITS CURRENT ZONING? AND THEN, UH, ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS, UH, A THOUSAND OAKS. IS THAT, THAT'S A ARTERIAL, I ASSUME. SEE WHAT KIND OF TRAFFIC LOAD IT CAN HANDLE? SECONDARY ARTERIAL. OKAY. IT'S A SECONDARY ARTERIAL. AND THEN LASTLY, THE MXD ZONING, THAT DOES REQUIRE A SITE PLAN, CORRECT? IT DOES CORRECT. OKAY. AND THE REASON FOR THE LAND USE CHANGE IS THE CURRENT SUBURBAN TIER ONLY GOES UP TO MF 18 AND SO THEY'RE PROPOSING MORE DENSITY THAN THAT. SO THEY NEED THE GENERAL URBAN TIER LAND USE CATEGORY. YEAH. THAT I, I, WHERE I WAS GOING WAS, I WAS SO, SO IF THE STREET CAN HANDLE THE KIND OF TRAFFIC, IF, IF IT'S A THIRD, YOU KNOW, AN ARTERIAL AND THEN IF IT CURRENTLY THEORETICALLY COULD HAVE 69 UNITS AND THE DAYCARE UNDER THE C TWO AND THEY'RE ASKING TO PUT 84 OR 85 UNITS, IT DOESN'T SEEM TOO FAR OFF. ESPECIALLY SINCE WHEN IT DOES GO TO ZONING AND ALL THE DETAILS GET HAMMERED OUT BECAUSE THERE'S GONNA BE A SITE PLAN THAT'S REALLY THE OPPORTUNITY TO, FOR THE HORSE TRADING, BECAUSE THEY'RE ZONED RM FOUR, THEY DON'T GET THE BENEFIT OF THE, OF THE REDUCED HEIGHT, UM, THAT YOU WOULD NORMALLY SEE ON MF THAT'S WITHIN 50 FEET OF THAT REAR. THEY ALSO DON'T HAVE THE 40 FOOT SETBACK IMPOSED BECAUSE IT'S RM FOUR. AND SO I, I THINK THE SITE PLAN IS, IS ACTUALLY A BENEFIT FOR THE NEIGHBORS IF THEY, UH, HEAVILY COMMUNICATE WITH THE COUNCIL'S OFFICE. UH, SO I JUST, BUT, BUT I WAS WONDERING TODAY, WELL, AND I DO JUST WANNA CLARIFY ABOUT THE, BECAUSE YOU DO GET MULTI-FAMILY UP TO 10 UNITS PER ACRE, BUT THAT'S AS A LIVE WORK UNIT OR, UM, MIXED USE KIND OF DEVELOPMENT. SO EVEN THOUGH THEY WOULD GET THAT BY RIGHT TODAY, IT WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A FACET OF COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL USE. YEAH, I WAS JUST WONDERING LIKE WHAT THEY, HOW MANY THEY COULD THEORETICALLY PUT ON IF THEY DIDN'T CHANGE THE ZONING JUST TO, SO IF WE DID 10 TIMES THE SIX ACRES, THAT'D BE OF 60. YES SIR. YEAH. MM-HMM, . ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. UH, BEFORE WE GET TO YOU, COMMISSIONER GARCIA, THERE'S ONE ADDITIONAL PERSON, UH, WHO SIGNED UP, UH, MS. AMY ELIAS. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES AND WE'LL GET BACK TO THE COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS. HELLO EVERYONE. MY NAME IS AMY ALIAS. I LIVE AT 57 51 SPRING MOON STREET. YESTERDAY I WAS INFORMED THAT THERE WAS GONNA BE A MEETING HERE. I HAD NO IDEA IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE IS OLDER PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. SO FOR THEM TO COME OUT HERE AND TO SPEAK, SOMEONE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO LITERALLY GO TO THEIR HOUSE AND KNOCK ON THEIR DOOR AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENING. 'CAUSE THEY WOULDN'T HAVE ANY IDEA. MOST OF 'EM STAY IN THE HOUSE ALL THE TIME, RIGHT? SO I HAVE KIDS, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO COME OFF NACODOCHES COMING THIS WAY BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC IS BACKED UP. AND I'M SURPRISED THAT THERE HASN'T BEEN LIKE TONS OF ACCIDENTS COMING THIS WAY WHERE THE APARTMENT COMPLEX IS SUPPOSED TO BE NOW COMING FROM THIS WAY, IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE EASY FOR THEM TO TURN IN. BUT WHAT HAPPENS TO THE, THE PEOPLE THAT'S GONNA BE TURNING IN TO YOUR LEFT TO GET IN THAT SUBDIVISION, IT'S GONNA BACK THE TRAFFIC UP EVEN MORE SO, OR SOMEBODY GONNA DO A QUICK TURN AND THEN THERE'S GONNA BE ACCIDENTS COMING THIS WAY. AND THEN ALSO, UM, PUTTING THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, I, UM, I KNOW THE GENTLEMAN SAID IT'S GONNA BE LOW INCOME, BUT STILL LOW INCOME WOULD PROBABLY BRING DOWN THE PROPERTY VALUE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THAT MEANS IT'S SUBJECT TO HAVE, UM, ALL SORTS OF PEOPLE NOW MOVING INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THAT RIGHT NOW THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE THAT ARE MOVING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE'S SO MUCH, UM, CRIMES AND SHOOTINGS NOW THAT WE ARE TRYING TO KEEP THAT DOWN TO A MINIMUM. NOT SURE HOW THIS IS GONNA WORK IF THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN FOR US, BUT WE WANNA JUST CONTINUE TO KEEP IT SAFE WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW AT THE CURRENT MOMENT. [01:10:01] SO I'M OPPOSED TO IT. THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, CONTINUING COMMISSIONER GARCIA, NO QUESTIONS. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND IS THAT AS IT IS RIGHT NOW, THEY CAN DO 60 ISH UNITS, BUT IT HAS TO BE COMMERCIAL OR A COMMERCIAL COMPONENT WITH IT, RIGHT? IT'S CONSIDERED A MIXED USE TYPE OF ACTIVITY, AND SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A RESIDENCE. USUALLY IT'S A COMMERCIAL ALONG THE BOTTOM AND RESIDENTIAL ALONG THE TOP, BUT POTENTIALLY, YES, THEY COULD HAVE UP TO 60, UM, MULTIFAMILY UNITS. ANY OTHER, THE OTHER OPTION COULD BE COMPLETELY COMMERCIAL, RIGHT? I MEAN, I, I MEAN I, I CORRECT THE, THE GREEN SPACE AND EVERYTHING, BUT THE REALITY IS, IS THAT WE'RE DEVELOPING AND WE DO HAVE A NEED FOR HOUSING. UM, SO IF I'M UNDERSTANDING IT'S KIND OF, IT'S THE REALITY IS IT'S GOING TO GET DEVELOPED TO SOME DEGREE IN THAT AREA OR IT WOULD BE A LOGICAL ASSUMPTION. I THINK THAT IS A LOGICAL ASSUMPTION. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. THANK YOU. . OKAY. UM, WELL, UM, I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION, UM, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I AM IN SUPPORT OF THIS PLAN AMENDMENT REQUEST, UH, IN THE, AT THE END OF 2021, THE CITY WAS FOUND TO HAVE A SHORTAGE OF 95,000 AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS. AND, UM, WE'VE CONTINUED TO GROW SINCE THEN AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO GROW AND PEOPLE NEED TO HAVE HOUSING. UM, THIS IS AN AREA WHERE THERE IS SOME DENSITY AND, UM, NACODOCHES IS A PRETTY LARGE ROAD AND I THINK THIS LOCATION IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS LAND USE CHANGE. SO I'LL BE SUPPORTING IT. COMMISSIONER MILAN, I DO HAVE A LOT OF SYMPATHY FOR THE NEIGHBORS. I'VE LIVED IN TWO COMMUNITIES, BOTH OF WHICH HAVE HAD AFFORDABLE HOUSING BUILT RIGHT NEAR THEM. THE GOOD NEWS IS I DID NOT FIND THAT THAT MADE MY LAND VALUES GO DOWN. SO I CAN OFFER THAT UP TO YOU AS A PO AS A PROBABILITY. UM, BUT I'LL SAY I AM ALSO IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT, UH, FOR EXACTLY THE SAME REASONS THAT COMMISSIONER SIEGEL STATED THAT WE DO NEED MORE HOUSING. OSIS IS A, IS A LARGE AND BUSY STREET, AND THAT'S THE APPROPRIATE TYPE OF HOUSING TO HAVE THERE. COMMISSIONER SYS QUESTION FOR STAFF. UM, SO THE, THE, THE PRIMARY REASON FOR THE PLAN AMENDMENT IS TO ALLOW A REZONING OF AN INTENSITY MORE THAN WHAT IS CURRENTLY ALLOWED IN THE CURRENT PLAN. THE CURRENT PLAN I SEE ALLOWS MF 18. THAT IS CORRECT. SO IF THEY DECIDED, THE DEVELOPER DECIDED TO REDEVELOP UNDER THE CURRENT PLAN AT 18 UNITS AN ACRE, IF THEY REDEVELOPED THE ENTIRE 6.96 ACRES, I GET THAT, THAT'S LIKE A ROUTE 125 UNITS. LET ME DO SOME MATH AND, AND I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, SO, SO THEY'RE WANTING TO DEVELOP JUST A CERTAIN PORTION OF IT, BUT BECAUSE THEY'RE LIMITING THE PORTION, THEN THEIR DENSITY GOES UP A LITTLE BIT. BUT THAT, SO YOU WERE CORRECT. IF THEY WERE TO STICK WITH THE MF 18, WHICH IS PERMITTED WITHIN THE SUBURBAN TIER, THEY COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE UP TO 125 UNITS ON THIS PROPERTY. UM, AS FOR DEVELOPMENT, UH, WE WOULD LOOK AT THE, FOR PLAN REVIEW, WE WOULD LOOK AT THE OVERALL, UH, ACREAGE THAT'S SUBMITTED TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE WITHIN THAT DENSITY FOR HOW MANY UNITS THEY'RE PROPOSING. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ON THE DENSITY? YES, I KNOW. YEAH. YES IT DOES, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, I, I'VE HEARD DIFFERENT NUMBERS SORTED, THROWN OUT, LIKE, YOU KNOW, IN THE 60 AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. I WAS JUST TRYING TO YEAH, THE, UM, BRING BACK TO, SO FROM WHAT, UH, COMMISSIONER ORIAN WAS COMMENTING ON WITH THE EXISTING BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF C TWO, YES, THEY'RE PERMITTED, AS CHRISTIE SAID, A MIXED USE WHERE YOU CAN HAVE COMMERCIAL AND, UH, RESIDENTIAL ATTACHED, UH, ON, IN A SIMILAR BUILDING, WHICH IS FOR A DENSITY OF 10 UNITS PER ACRE. AND SO AT THIS ACREAGE OF 6.9, SIX TIMES 10 WOULD GIVE YOU APPROXIMATELY 69 TO 70 UNITS. ALRIGHT, AND THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK, UH, THE PUBLIC COMMENTS CLOSED. THANK YOU. UM, I GREW UP NOT TOO FAR FROM THERE, SO I HAVE AN AFFINITY FOR THIS AREA. UM, IT'S A LOT MORE DEVELOPED THAN IT WAS WHEN I FIRST GOT THERE. UM, BUT AS A LOT OF THE COMMISSIONS HAVE STATED THAT GROWTH IS, IS HAPPENING AND THIS, THE NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS, IS REAL, UH, BUT THERE IS NEED FOR COOPERATION [01:15:01] AND RESPONSIBLE GROWTH. SO HOWEVER THIS COMMISSION MOVES FORWARD, I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE DEVELOPERS TO WORK TOGETHER TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS IF THIS PROJECT GOES FORWARD. UM, ALSO IT WAS MENTIONED THAT THERE'S NOT A REGISTERED NEIGHBOR ASSOCIATION, BUT IT STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU GUYS TO GET WITH THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, DEVELOPMENT PLANNING AND, UH, SEE ABOUT ORGANIZING THAT WAY. YOU DO GET NOTIFICATIONS FOR PROJECTS LIKE THIS AND, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE TRAFFIC AND, AND CRIME. UM, I SAW THAT THE COUNCILMAN WHITE WAS COPIED ON ALL HIS CORRESPONDENCE, CONTINUE TO WORK WITH HIS, UH, HIS OFFICE TO ADDRESS THOSE ITEMS SO THAT, UH, THEY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SAFE FOR EVERYBODY. SO AT THIS TIME I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I MOVE TO APPROVE THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST. SECOND MOTION APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER SIEGEL. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES. COMMISSIONER GARCIA. YES. COMMISSIONER FAULKNER. YES. COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? YES. COMMISSIONER MILAM? YES. COMMISSIONER ORIAN? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. CHAIR PROFIT? YES. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT TODAY. ITEM NUMBER 31. GOOD AFTERNOON, SAMANTHA. BE THE ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER 31 IS A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE SOUTH CENTRAL SAN ANTONIO COMMUNITY PLAN FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL LOCATED AT FOUR 20 EIDS AVENUE. THERE ARE, THERE WERE 20 NOTICES MAILED ONE IN FAVOR, TWO OPPOSED WITHIN 200 FEET. THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM ST. LEO'S NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR FROM OUTSIDE 200 FEET. THE APPLICANT SEEKS A PLAN AMENDMENT TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL TO REZONE TO C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. GIVEN THE PROXIMITY TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES WITH LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL LAND USE CLASSIFICATION. THE PROPOSED PLAN AMENDMENT IS NOT APPROPRIATE OR CONSISTENT WITH LAND USE IN THE AREA WITHIN THE SOUTH CENTRAL SAN ANTONIO COMMUNITY PLAN. THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL LAND USE DESIGNATION RECOMMENDS THAT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS BE LOCATED AT NODES ON ARTERIALS AT MAJOR INTERSECTIONS OR WHERE AN EXISTING COMMERCIAL AREA HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED. BEING LOCATED WITHIN A RESIDENTIAL STREET STAFF FINDS THAT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY DOES NOT MEET THE LOCATION LOCATIONAL CRITERIA FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ADDITIONAL. ADDITIONALLY, INTRODUCING THE PROPOSED LAND USE CATEGORY OF COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL WOULD INCREASE THE POTENTIAL FOR COMMERCIAL ENCROACHMENT INTO AN ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY, NOW I SAW MR. VIAL, YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK FIRST OR, UM, I WAS ASKED TO HAVE MY DAD INTRODUCE ME. OKAY, PERFECT. SO BY STAFF, I DON'T DUNNO. MY NAME IS URIEL VIAL AND I'M HERE TO, UH, TALK ABOUT THE ADDRESS FOUR 28TH STREET. UH, I'VE BEEN THERE 40 YEARS, 1985. AND, UH, MICHAEL IS GONNA GO AHEAD AND TALK FOR ME. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANKS DAD. UM, HE'S BEEN THERE SINCE 82, 19 82. AND THANK YOU FOR, UM, GIVING THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE OUR STORY. SO THIS COMMERCIAL BUILDING, COULD WE PUT THE PHOTO OF IT? YEAH. THIS COMMERCIAL BUILDING HAS BEEN IN MY FAMILY FOR ALMOST 60 YEARS, UH, BEFORE MY FATHER PURCHASED IT FOR MY UNCLES. IT WAS OWNED BY MY GRANDFATHER WHO RAN HIS SIGN PAINTING COMPANY OUT OF IT LATE FIFTIES, EARLY SIXTIES, BACK WHEN PEOPLE HIRED PAINTERS TO HAND PAINT COMMERCIAL SIGNS ON THEIR GLASS WINDOWS. SO THE BUILDING HAD HELPED MY GRANDFATHER RUN HIS SMALL BUSINESS. HE THEN SOLD IT TO MY UNCLES WHO RAN THEIR PAINT SHOP, WHO THEN SOLD IT TO MY DAD, WHO RAN HIS AC REPAIR BUSINESS UNTIL HE RETIRED. AND MY DAD HAS BEEN RENTING IT OUT TO OTHER TRADESMEN. RIGHT NOW THERE'S A CARPENTER WHO OPERATES OUT OF THIS COMMERCIAL BUILDING. AND SO FOR ALL THIS TIME IT'S BEEN A COMMERCIAL BUILDING SUPPORTING SMALL BUSINESS PEOPLE RUNNING THEIR SMALL BUSINESSES. UNTIL RECENTLY [01:20:01] WE DISCOVERED THAT IT HAD BEEN CHANGED TO RESIDENTIAL. AND BECAUSE OF THAT WE KNOW THAT THAT CHANGE IN USE AND ZONING IMPACTS THE VALUE OF THE BUILDING. THIS IS A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF MY DAD'S INCOME. HE'S RETIRED NOW AND IT IS HOW HE GETS BY, HOW HE MAKES ENDS MEET TO LEARN KIND OF INDIRECTLY THAT HIS COMMERCIAL BUILDING THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN A COMMERCIAL BUILDING IS NOW SUITED FOR RESIDENTIAL, REALLY WAS A SHOCK. AND SO REALLY I'M HERE TO, TO HELP MY DAD AND ASK FOR YOUR HELP TO, RIGHT. WHAT I BELIEVE IS A WRONG IN, IN SOME WAYS WE'RE NOT ASKING TO REZONE, WE'RE ASKING TO GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL ZONING AND THE ORIGINAL USE OF THIS PROPERTY. UH, IT IS NOT DEEPLY EMBEDDED IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. IF YOU COULD, UH, GO TO THE, UM, THE GARAGE ACROSS THE STREET. SO THIS IS THE FRONT VIEW. IF YOU, IF YOU STEP OUTSIDE OF THE FRONT DOOR OF THE COMMERCIAL BUILDING, THIS IS WHAT YOU SEE. I THINK THE VIEW IS MAYBE MORE ON THE BACK END OF THAT GARAGE, BUT THAT GARAGE EXTENDS ACROSS KIND OF TWO LOTS. UM, AND THEN IF YOU GO TO THE MAP, ROOSEVELT IS THAT MAIN STREET RIGHT THERE. AND OUR PROPERTY IS JUST ONE IN FROM THE CORNER. SO IF ANYTHING , YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE CORNER PROPERTY, WHICH IS RESIDENTIAL IS THE ONE, IS KIND OF THE ODDBALL PROPERTY AT THAT HUB. UM, AND SO I I, UH, AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY MORE QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE OF ME. UH, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. I KNOW PLAYING THIS ROLE ON, ON PLANNING COMMISSION IS DIFFICULT AND YOU AND THE CITY STAFF OUR ATTEMPTING TO BALANCE COMPETING INTERESTS AND MOVE OUR COMMUNITY FORWARD. UH, I SERVED IN THE LEGISLATURE FOR 15 YEARS. I GET IT. I UNDERSTAND THE, THE DYNAMICS OF TRYING TO MAKE PUBLIC POLICY THAT MOVES US FORWARD TOGETHER. I JUST WANT TO ASK FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION BECAUSE IN THIS CASE, I REALLY DO THINK THE, THE, THE PLAN DID DID A POOR JOB OF CONSIDERING THIS HISTORIC USE OF A, OF A PROPERTY. UM, I ALSO WANT TO ADD THAT IT WAS A SURPRISE TO MY FATHER. UH, WE BELIEVE HE BELIEVES BECAUSE, UH, HE COMMONLY RECEIVES MAIL FROM THE, THE CITY TO THE, THE ADDRESS OF THE PROPERTY, NOT HIS HOME. AND SO HE WAS REALLY CAUGHT UNAWARE THAT THERE MAY HAVE BEEN A PLANNING PROCESS HAPPENING THAT THAT RESULTED IN A CHANGE IN PROPERTY USE. I I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU MR. AL. UH, STARTING AT THE RIGHT, MR. SIPES, I HAVE NO QUESTIONS. MR. MILAN, THIS IS FOR STAFF. WE DISCUSSED EARLIER THAT, UH, WHAT WERE THE HISTORICAL USES HERE WE'RE, HAVE WE FOUND OUT ANYTHING MORE ABOUT THAT? UM, GIVEN THAT WE'RE HEARING IT'S ALWAYS BEEN COMMERCIAL? WELL, AGAIN, UM, YES, WE DO HAVE PRIOR, UH, CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPATION FROM LIKE 2004 FOR THE AC REPAIR AND THEN ALSO DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS, UM, FROM 2001 FOR WELDING SHOPS. SO YES, THERE IS A HISTORY OF SOME KIND OF, UM, MECHANICAL, UM, INDUSTRIAL KIND OF USE, UH, CONTRACTOR USES ON THAT PROPERTY. AND FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, WHAT WAS THERE WAS THAT THAT'S GRANDFATHERED IN, RIGHT? NORMALLY YES, WE DO HAVE A PROCESS OF GRANDFATHERING IN, THEY WOULD JUST HAVE TO PROVE THAT IT'S BEEN IN CONTINUOUS USE. IF THERE IS A PERIOD OF 12 MONTHS THAT IT'S BEEN NON NOT ACTIVE, THEN WE WOULD REMOVE IT WOULD BE VOID. UM, SO THAT'S, THAT IS AN OPTION. UH, BUT AGAIN, I BELIEVE THAT THEY WANT TO NOT KEEP WITH THE, UM, COMMERCIAL THE CONTRACTOR USE ANYMORE, BUT DO MORE OF A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, UH, TYPE OF SPACE THAT WOULD BE PERMITTED IN THE C TWO COMMERCIAL ASPECT. [01:25:01] WE, WE WANNA KEEP IT C TWO AND THAT WE WERE OFFERED THIS IDEA OF GRANDFATHERING, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF RESTRICTIONS ON THAT. LIKE YOU, YOU CAN'T CHANGE THE HEIGHT OR THE SHAPE OF THE BUILDING. IF YOU SELL IT, IT, YOU LOSE THE COMMERCIAL STATUS. UM, THAT GRANDFATHERING AFFECTS, HARMS THE ECONOMIC INTERESTS OF MY FATHER. I WANT TO JUST HAVE IT RETURN BACK TO WHAT IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN HISTORICALLY. OKAY. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU MR. SIEGEL. UM, I THINK THIS IS A PRETTY CLEAR CASE OF, UM, PLAN AMENDMENT OR RATHER A, A PLAN ADOPTION THAT CREATED A NON-CONFORMING USE ON THIS PROPERTY. AND I'LL BE SUPPORTING THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST. MR. FAULKNER? NO QUESTIONS MR. GARCIA? NO QUESTIONS? YEAH, I HAVE SOME, SOME THINGS. UH, SO I, I NOTICED ON THE COASTAL ONE STAFF THAT THE, THE ZONING KEY TIED TO THAT, THE ZONING LISTING IS A 2009 KEY. IS THAT WHEN IT WAS, WAS THE ZONING CHANGED IN 2009? UH, TWO R SIX? NO, ACTUALLY THAT 2009 IS, IS WITHIN A CORRIDOR SENSE OF HIS PROXIMITY TO ROOSEVELT AVENUE THERE. OH, THE RIO, SO THE 2009 CORRECT. WHEN LIKE THE RIO AND THE ROOSEVELT AVENUE CORRIDOR WERE ESTABLISHED. BUT WHAT WE SAW FROM HISTORY, THIS WAS PART OF A LARGE AREA REZONING IN 2005 AND THAT'S WHAT CHANGED IT FROM THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT OKAY. TO THIS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. AND I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT THE LIGHTHOUSE FOR THE BLIND UP RIGHT UP THE STREET FROM YOU THAT I WAS ENGINEER ON THAT PROJECT AND THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC. IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO TRAIN TRACKS. THIS ISN'T A, A REGULAR RESIDENTIAL AREA. IT'S, IT'S INUNDATED WITH COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL USES. SO, I MEAN, I'M COMPLETELY FOR THIS, SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER LOPEZ. YEAH, I MEAN, I, I THINK THAT AGAIN, WE'VE, WE'VE, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THE HISTORIC, THE, THE MYRIAD OF HISTORICAL USES THAT HAVE, THAT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THEM, YOU KNOW, AS WE DEVELOP THESE PLANS AND, AND SOMETIMES A WHOLE, YOU KNOW, LARGE SCALE WAY, THESE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT CAN GET CAUGHT. UM, AND I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, THAT THIS BOARD IS ESPECIALLY SUITED FOR TO CATCH THOSE AND CORRECT THEM WHEN THEY'RE APPROPRIATE. AND I, I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THOSE TIMES. SO I'LL BE SUPPORTING THIS REQUEST. THANK YOU. UH, JUST TO NOTE, COMMISSIONER GARCIA HAD LESS LEFT THE MEETING. UH, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER SAYS, SAID, I BELIEVE THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE SAID, UM, I THINK IN A COUPLE YEARS THIS WILL BE PART OF THE ESSAY TOMORROW, UM, SECTOR PLANS. SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO WORK WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS TO HELP SHAPE HOW YOU WANNA SEE THIS CORRIDOR GROW. UH, AND, UM, BUT I, I AM IN SUPPORT OF THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST. SO WITH THAT, I WILL ASK FOR MOTION. I MOVE TO APPROVE THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST. SECOND MOTION TO APPROVE APPLICANT'S REQUEST. UH, BY COMMISSIONER SIEGEL. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MILAM. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES. COMMISSIONER MILAM? YES. COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? YES. COMMISSIONER ORIAN? YES. COMMISSIONER STIPES? YES. COMMISSIONER FAULKNER? YES. CHAIR PROFIT? YES. MOTION PASSES. THANKS. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALRIGHT. UH, IT'S 3 33 AND COMMISSIONER SIEGEL'S LEAVING THE MEETING. LAST, [Approval of Minutes  ] UH, ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE MINUTES FROM LAST MEETING. HEY, COMMISSIONER SIEGEL. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? UH, JUST A POINT. DO WE DO AS A IS DO WE DO, IS THERE FIVE COMMISSIONERS STILL PRESENT? YEAH. WOULD YOU MIND WAITING UNTIL THE MINUTES? ARE WE, WE WILL, WE'RE ABOUT TO LOSE QUORUM BECAUSE TWO OF US DON'T COUNT. . OH. OH. WE'LL LOSE QUORUM. OKAY. YEP. ALL RIGHT. MOVE TO APPROVE. THE MINUTES IS RECORDED. SECOND. MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND ALL. UH, DO A VOICE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NO. YES. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL, UH, IS THERE, IS THERE A DIRECTOR'S REPORT? NOT TODAY. ALRIGHT. IT'S 3 34 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. 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