* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:03] ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY. IT IS NINE OH TWO AND WE WILL CALL THE, UH, MONDAY MAY 13TH. PLAN, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE. MEETING TO ORDER. WOULD STAFF PLEASE DO A ROLL CALL? MR. LOPEZ. MS. MILAM? HERE. MR. ZUKI. MR. SIPES? HERE. MR. BARROS. MS. BRAGMAN? PRESENT. MS. CRUZ? HERE. MS. WAGS SPEC PRESENT. MS. COHEN? MR. BOULA? MS. FERMAN? MR. MOORE? MS. TACKETT. MS. ? MS. FLAGS? HERE. MR. MATNEY? HERE. MR. TAYLOR? HERE. MR. BROWN. MR. HANLEY? MR. ROBINSON? MR. FULLERTON? MR. DOMINGUEZ? MR. LAZARIN? MR. DUKA? MR. ESTRADA? HERE. MR. MANNA. MS. CHERYL? MS. DALE. MR. RAMIREZ. MR. VASQUEZ? PRESENT. MS. MALDONADO? HERE. MR. WILSON. CHAIR. PECK. PRESENT. KORA. MS. PRESENT. THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, CAN WE GO AROUND THE ROOM AND INTRODUCE OURSELVES REAL QUICK? THERE'S SOME, UH, UNFAMILIAR FACES, AND IT'S BEEN A WHILE, SO WE'LL START OVER HERE WITH MR. MOORE. I CAN Y'ALL PLEASE USE YOUR MIC? YES. THOUGHT I HAD A LOUD VOICE. CAMMA MILAM. I'M ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION, MR. VASQUEZ, AND I'M WITH THE, UM, UH, BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS. MARIA CRUZ. I'M ON THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS. KIM BRAGMAN, BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT. COLLEEN WAPAC, PARKS AND RECREATION. ERIC ESTRADA, COMMUNITY REPRESENTATIVE BIANCA MALDONADO, COMMUNITY REPRESENTATIVE ROBERT SIPES, ZONING COMMISSION. ROBERT HANLEY. I'M AN ARCHITECT. ARMANDO NEELA. COLLIER'S ENGINEERING DESIGN. AND FOR THE RECORD, I WASN'T INCLUDED ON THE ATTENDEE LIST. YOU, YOU'RE SAYING ON THE ROLL CALL. WE'LL GO DOUBLE CHECK IT. MATTHEW MATNEY, ENGINEERING. MICHAEL TAYLOR. I'M THE PLANNING PROFESSIONAL REPRESENTATIVE. RYAN PLAGUES ENGINEERING. OKAY. MINE DOESN'T LIKE TO STAY ON TODAY. I'M KARA, ATTACK , AS IF I'M NOT LOUD ENOUGH. RIGHT. UH, CARE, ATTACK IT WITH PIPE DAWSON. ENGINEERS AS AN ENGINEERING REP. GEORGE P. PLANNING COMMISSION. AND I GUESS THAT'S IT. ALL RIGHT. UH, WE'LL MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT. IS [Public Comment  ] THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ANY ITEMS? WHY DON'T WE DO STAFF INTRODUCTIONS TOO, WHILE WE'RE AT IT? LOGAN SPARROW DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ADMINISTRATOR, MONIQUE CORMAN, POLICY ADMINISTRATOR. RACHEL PARRISH. DSD ENGINEER OVER TRAFFIC, CHAR TRAFFIC AND SIDEWALK. MATTHEW MORTON, CITY ATTORNEY. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT WAS, WE HAVE, UH, WHAT ABOUT THERE? WE HAVE ONE MORE JOB, AND WE GOT SOME OVER HERE. GOOD MORNING. VALERIE RODRIGUEZ, SENIOR PLANNER WITH THE POLICY ADMINISTRATION TEAM. [00:05:02] OKAY, THANK YOU. NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT. HAS ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? WE HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY. IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK BEFORE WE MOVE ON? OKAY. WE'LL MOVE ON TO NEW [New Business  ] BUSINESS. WE HAVE A BRIEFING AND ACTION ON UPDATE OF THE 2011 COMPLETE STREETS POLICY BY CAT HERNANDEZ. GOOD MORNING. OH, IT'S SO NICE TO SEE FRIENDLY FACES TODAY. IT'S BEEN A WHILE. OH, I MISSED YOU GUYS. UM, SO I'M CATHERINE HERNANDEZ. I'M THE DIRECTOR FOR OUR CITY'S TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT. UM, REALLY HAPPY TO BRING FORWARD ONE OF THE INITIATIVES THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON OVER THE LAST YEAR. IT IS AN UPDATE TO, UH, THE PREVIOUSLY ADOPTED 2011 COMPLETE STREETS POLICY. UM, IT'S SORE NEED OF AN UPDATE. IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE, UH, THE, THE ORIGINAL ONE. AND, UH, THE COMPARISON BETWEEN THE TWO. IT WAS LIKE FOUR SMALL PAGES. AND NOW WE'VE GOT A REALLY ROBUST, UH, POLICY THAT HELPS TO GUIDE, UH, WHAT WE DO AS FAR AS INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS, UH, FOR THE CITY. UM, SO WHAT I'M GONNA DO IS I'M GONNA HAVE THE PROJECT MANAGER, UH, DO THE PRESENTATION. UM, Z MARSHALL, UH, Z ACTUALLY CAME FROM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. I STOLE Z SO YOU KNOW, THAT WAY I CAN BUILD UP MY TEAM. UM, AND SHE, UH, Z IS ONE OF OUR SENIOR TRANSPORTATION PLANNERS FOR THE DEPARTMENT. SO WITH THAT, I WILL HAND IT OVER TO Z. SO WHERE DO YOU WANT? HI EVERYONE. I'M Z MARSHALL. I'M GONNA TALK TO YOU GUYS ABOUT THE COMPLETE STREETS POLICY UPDATE. UM, I'M GONNA COVER WHAT COMPLETE STREETS APPROACH IS, JUST SO WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. AND THEN I'LL TALK ABOUT WHY WE'RE UPDATING THE 2011 POLICY. SOME IMPROVEMENTS WE'LL SEE COMING UP, UH, BY UPDATING THE POLICY AS WELL AS WHO WE'VE TALKED TO, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AS WELL AS STAKEHOLDERS. AND SO, COMPLETE STREETS REALLY HAS THREE KEY ASPECTS. SO, FIRST IS MAKING OUR STREETS SAFER AND MORE ACCESSIBLE TO ALL USERS. SO THAT WOULD BE CHILDREN, OLDER ADULTS, INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES, AND SO ON. UH, THE SECOND IS THAT STREETS NEED TO ACCOMMODATE ALL NEEDS ON ALL MODES OF TRAVEL. AND SO THAT COULD BE BICYCLISTS, TRANSIT, PEDESTRIAN, PRIVATE AUTOMOBILE. AND THEN THIRD AND REALLY IMPORTANT IS THAT CONTEXT IS KEY WHEN IT COMES TO COMPLETE STREETS. SO NOT ALL STREETS WILL HAVE EVERY ELEMENT. UH, IT REALLY WILL BE DESIGNED BASED OFF OF THE SURROUNDING CONTEXT, SUCH AS LAND USE AND, AND WHO'S ACTIVELY USING THE STREET CURRENTLY. SO HERE ARE FOUR EXAMPLES OF A COMPLETE STREET IN SAN ANTONIO. THEY'RE COMPLETE STREETS 'CAUSE THEY WENT THROUGH A COMPLETE STREETS REVIEW, UM, AND THEY FOLLOW THE APPROACH. AND SO YOU CAN SEE THEY ALL LOOK VERY DIFFERENTLY. HAVE BROOKS PLAZA, NUEVE, THE SANTA ROSA STREET REDESIGN, AS WELL AS CALLAHAN. THEY, ALL OF THEM HAVE SIDEWALKS. SOME OF THEM HAVE REALLY LOW SPEEDS AND NARROW LANES. UH, A LOT OF THEM HAVE STREET TREES. AND THEN, FOR INSTANCE, CALLAHAN ROAD. SO WENT THROUGH THAT APPROACH. IT LOOKS VERY DIFFERENT, BUT YOU CAN STILL SEE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE, THE IMAGE THAT THEY HAVE A 10 FOOT SHARED USE PASS. SO IT'S REALLY ABOUT TAKING AN EFFECTIVE USE OF THE, THE RIGHT OF WAY AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE SERVING AS MANY PEOPLE AND AS MANY USES AS POSSIBLE. AND SO THE 2011 COMPLETE STREETS POLICY AT THE TIME WON A GOLD MEDAL WITH CITY HEALTH IN THE COMPLETE STREETS POLICY INITIATIVE. IT REALLY HITS THOSE THREE MAIN ACT, UH, ACTIVITIES OF COMPLETE STREETS APPROACH, RIGHT? NOT ALL STREETS MUST BE THE SAME. ALL AGES ABILITY, ALL USERS. AND IT HAS ACTIVATION GOALS OF HEALTHY LIVING, PEDESTRIAN OR NEIGHBORHOODS ENHANCING COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS, MAXIMIZING CAPITAL PROJECTS. AND IT HAS SOME ENCOURAGEMENT AND RECOMMENDATIONS. UM, BUT WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE MORE THAN 10 YEARS NOW SINCE THAT POLICY'S BEEN PASSED, IS THAT AS COMPLETE STREETS HAS BEEN PUT INTO CITIES, WE'VE FOUND THAT THERE ARE WAYS TO IMPROVE IT. AND SO NATIONAL BEST PRACTICE, AS WAS AS WELL AS PEER CITY REVIEW, SHOWS THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS AND WE CAN IMPROVE THIS 2011 POLICY, UM, TO MAKE IT MORE ROBUST AND REALLY IMPROVE OUR IMPLEMENTATION OF THE COMPLETE STREETS APPROACH. SO THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF SMART GROWTH AMERICA'S, UM, POLICY RECOMMENDATION FRAMEWORK. AND SO YOU'LL SEE IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE MORE ROBUST. IT HAS DIFFERENT SECTIONS. AND THE SAME THING IS WE FOUND WITH OUR PEER CITY REVIEW THAT THEY ALSO WERE MORE ROBUST. AND SO WHAT YOU CAN SEE IS THAT WE NEED TO INTRODUCE PERFORMANCE MEASURES, INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL COORDINATION, DESIGN UPDATES, PROJECT SELECTION CRITERIA, AS WELL AS A PRIORITIZATION TOWARDS EQUITY TO IMPROVE THE POLICY. AND THAT WILL ALSO ASSIST US IN, IN MEETING THOSE NEW CITY HEALTH GOALS THAT THEY'VE ALSO UPDATED. AND SO THINGS THAT COULD COME OUT OF THIS UPDATE, UM, WOULD BE AN UPDATE AND REVIEW OF POLICY AND CODE, SUCH AS THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, THE DESIGN GUIDANCE MANUAL, AND THE COMPLETE STREETS CHECKLIST. SO THOSE ARE BOTH INTERNAL. WHILE OBVIOUSLY THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE IS MORE EXTERNAL AND FOR DEVELOPERS AND OUTSIDE ORGANIZATIONS, IT WOULD ALSO REQUIRE IMPROVED DESIGN STANDARDS. UH, ANOTHER THING THAT WOULD COME OUT OF IS OUR PROJECT PRIORITIZATION [00:10:01] TOOL. IT WOULD FOCUS ON NETWORK CONNECTIVITY, INTRODUCING SAFETY, MULTIMODAL INFRASTRUCTURE, TRAVEL DEMAND AND SUSTAINABILITY. AND THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE AN INTERNAL ASPECT. UH, PRIORITIZING THE TOOL PROBABLY FOR LIKE THE BOND CYCLE AND PROCESS, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR PROJECTS THAT WE'RE FUNDING CAN REALLY MEET THAT COMPLETE STREETS APPROACH. IT'LL ALSO, UH, PUSHES FORWARD FOR NEW STRATEGIES SUCH AS QUICK BUILDS, WHICH WOULD BE TEMPORARY INFRASTRUCTURE TO PRACTICE DESIGN AND TEST OUT WHAT WORKS IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AS WELL AS SOME SPEED MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES AS WELL. IT ALSO CALLS FOR EDUCATION FOR THE PUBLIC, FOR SAFETY PRACTICES, AS WELL AS INTERNALLY FOR, UH, CITY STAFF. SO THAT AS THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES GET UPDATED, WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT EVERYONE'S ON THE SAME PAGE AND WORKING TOWARDS THIS GOAL TOGETHER. SO THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF OUR DRAFT SECTIONS THAT WERE PRODUCED. IT IS WAY MORE ROBUST THAN OUR ORIGINAL 20 11 1. IT MEETS THOSE PEER CITY EXAMPLES AS WELL AS SMART GROWTH AMERICA, WHICH IS A NATIONAL, UH, ORGANIZATION LEADING THIS COMPLETE STREETS APPROACH MOVEMENT. AND SO THAT, THAT'S SOME EXAMPLES. SO AGAIN, THERE'S DESIGN IN THERE, THERE'S LAND USE, CONTEXT AND SENSITIVITY. IT'S ABOUT THAT FLEXIBILITY AS WELL AS IMPLEMENTATION STEPS, WHICH HAS A FULL CHART OF HOW WE'D PUSH FORWARD AND MAKE UPDATES AS WELL AS PERFORMANCE MEASURES AND CLEAR AND ACCOUNTABLE EXCEPTIONS. SO WE WORKED WITH A STAKEHOLDER COMMITTEE. IT WAS VERY ROBUST. UH, WE HAD GOOD ATTENDANCE AND ENGAGEMENTS. SO WE HAD CITY DEPARTMENTS SUCH AS DSD, PUBLIC WORKS INNOVATION, UM, DEIA AS WELL AS ORGANIZATIONS LIKE A RP AM O SMART GROWTH AMERICA, TECH O SAWS, AND CPS. SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME EXAMPLES, BUT THAT'S THE FULL LIST THERE. WE MET WITH THEM THREE TIMES. UH, WE, THE FIRST MEETING REALLY WAS MORE LIKE THIS, WHERE WE'RE GETTING ON THE SAME PAGE. AND THEN THE NEXT TWO MEETINGS WE SPENT GOING LINE BY LINE, MAKING SURE THAT ALL THESE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES ARE REALLY TAKEN TIME THROUGH THE DOCUMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S GONNA BE THE BEST FOR SAN ANTONIO, THAT WE CAN MAKE IT. UM, AND WE ALSO DID PUBLIC OUTREACH. SO THAT'S, WE MADE AN ESSAY SPEAK UP PAGE THAT HAD THE POLICY DRAFT, AND IT STILL DOES UPLOAD ONLINE FOR PUBLIC REVIEW, A ONE QUESTION ONLINE SURVEY TO SEE HOW PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT UPDATING THE POLICY, UH, AS WELL AS WORKING WITH A COMPLETE STREETS COALITION. AND THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE ON THAT COALITION. AND IN SUPPORT OF UPDATING THIS POLICY, WE'VE ALSO ATTENDED MULTIPLE EVENTS, UH, WITH A RP. WE DID A TOWN HALL IN DECEMBER, A VIRTUAL PUBLIC MEET MEETING APRIL 4TH. WE'RE GONNA ACTUALLY HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC MEETING TOMORROW NIGHT. AND, UH, WE'VE ALSO ATTENDED EVENTS LIKE SELO AND SOME ART GALAS AND SAFE KIDS DAY. AND SO TODAY WE'RE MEETING WITH YOU. WE PLAN ON GOING BACK TO PC A FEW TIMES, UH, BEFORE CONSIDERATION IN JUNE. WE'LL ALSO BE GOING TO T AND I, UH, WHICH IS A COUNCIL COMMITTEE IN JUNE, UH, MAY ACTUALLY, SORRY, I DIDN'T UPDATE, UPDATE THAT. WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A CHANGE AS WELL AS CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION IN AUGUST. AND SO THIS IS THE FULL TIMELINE. AND ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS THAT WE'RE HERE TODAY AND, AND WORKING WITH PC IN GENERAL IS BECAUSE WE PLAN ON DOING A UDC REVIEW AND, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS. UH, AND SO THAT'LL BE IN PHASE TWO. SO LIKE RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN PHASE ONE THAT'S UPDATING THE POLICY. IT'S GETTING IT PASSED THROUGH COUNCIL, AND THEN STARTING IN FALL, WE'LL START REVIEWING POLICY AND PROCEDURES, AND THAT WILL START OUR PHASE TWO. AND THAT WILL INCLUDE UDC RECOMMENDATIONS FOR AMENDMENTS, AND THAT WILL GO DURING THE NORMAL UDC AMENDMENT CYCLE PROCESS. UM, BUT YEAH, SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU WERE ALL AWARE OF THIS PROJECT. AND, UM, IT'S OUR STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROPOSED POLICY DOCUMENT FOR BRIEFING AND ACTION, THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN JUNE, CITY COUNCIL IN AUGUST. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D LOVE TO ANSWER THEM. UH, I HAVE A, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. MM-HMM, , UH, JUST TO BE CLEAR, IN YOUR, THE DRAFT MANUAL THAT WE GOT, IT SAYS ON PAGE SEVEN, UH, THAT THIS, THE, IT GOES THROUGH TALKS ABOUT THE PROCEDURES IN C SHALL APPLY TO ALL TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS MANAGED BY THE CITY, OR GO THROUGH THE CITY REVIEW PROCESS, INCLUDING BOND PROJECTS AND PROJECTS, UH, FUNDED BY TXDOT AMPO DOLLARS. AND, AND MY QUESTION IS, DOES THIS INCLUDE ALL STREETS EVEN, BUT NOT PRIVATE SECTOR STREETS THAT, LIKE IN GATED COMMUNITIES, BUT IF, IF IT'S NOT AN AMPO OR A TDOT, IT STILL INCLUDES THOSE STREETS? YES. AND SO WE'LL HAVE AN INTERNAL, UH, POLICY AND PRACTICE AND A COMPLETE STREETS CHECKLIST. WE ALREADY HAVE ONE. WE'D BE UPDATING IT. UM, AND PART OF THE UDC AMENDMENT PROCESS. IN GOING THROUGH THAT, WOULD WE MAKE SURE THAT DEVELOPERS ALSO FOLLOW A SIMILAR STRAIN, [00:15:01] EVEN THOUGH IT MIGHT BE DIFFERENT AS WE GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS? BUT IDEALLY IT WOULD BE ALL STREETS, EXCEPT WE DO HAVE THE EXCEPTIONS SECTION. AND SO SOME PROJECTS MIGHT MEET AN EXCEPTION AND THEN NOT HAVE TO FOLLOW IT, BUT IDEALLY IT'S THE APPROACH, RIGHT? WE'RE LOOKING AT MAKING IT MORE ACCOMMODATING AND SAFER AND REALLY GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS, THAT REVIEW PROCESS AND, AND PUTTING WHAT WE CAN INTO A STREET DESIGN IS REALLY COMPLETE STREET. SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO MEET CERTAIN CHECK BOXES TO GET AN EXEMPTION OR TO QUALIFY FOR A COMPLETE STREETS. IT'S REALLY THAT REVIEW PROCESS. THANK YOU. MY SECOND QUESTION. MM-HMM. CAT, CLOSE YOUR EARS ON YOUR, UM, . SHE'S TIRED OF HEARING ME SAY THIS, BUT ON PAGE 10, UHHUH, YOU TALK ABOUT COORDINATION AND OVERSIGHT, AND YOU LIST ALL POSSIBLE REPRESENTATIVE OR DESIGNEES, AND YOU LIST ALL THESE GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES. UH, AND I'M A BIG BELIEVER THAT IF YOU DEVELOP THE CITY DEVELOPS A POLICY OR AN ORDINANCE OR PROCESS, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA HAVE TO DESIGN TO THAT STANDARD OR PRIVATE SECTOR PEOPLE. AND THERE'S NO PRIVATE SECTOR HERE. NOW, IF YOU SAY, WELL, PRIVATE SECTOR WILL BE ON A SUBCOMMITTEE, WELL, A SUBCOMMITTEE JUST MAKES A RECOMMENDATION OR ADVISORY COMMENTARY TO THE OVERALL TASK FORCE. MM-HMM. . BUT I DO BELIEVE THERE SHOULD BE A HIGHER LEVEL OF PRIVATE SECTOR PEOPLE IN THE FINAL DECISION MAKING, NOT A SUBCOMMITTEE. MM-HMM. , I'LL LET KAT CHIME TOO. PART OF THIS TASK FORCE LAID OUT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S INTERNAL COORDINATION. AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY IT'S CURRENTLY FOCUSED THAT WAY. BUT KAT, IF, IF YOU HAVE OTHER CONCERNS AS WELL. MM-HMM. , IT'S THE NEXT PAGE. SO, UM, IF YOU GO TO PAGE 11, THAT LIST EXTENDS, UH, WHERE WE INCLUDE ANY OTHER ORGANIZATION, UM, ADVOCACY GROUP THAT WOULD INCLUDE, UH, DEVELOPMENT REPRESENTATIVES, PEOPLE FROM THE REAL ESTATE COUNCIL. UH, SO IT, AND, AND IT'S NOT, THIS IS NOT A, A, UH, IT'S POSSIBLE REPRESENTATIVES. IT JUST GIVES US A GUIDANCE TO SAY, HEY, THESE ARE, THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO TOUCHPOINTS WITH. AND, UM, BUT IT'S NOT SET IN STONE. THANK YOU. BECAUSE I WAS LOOKING AT YOUR LIST AND I WAS GOING, WHY IN THE WORLD ARE YOU HAVING A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THAT ORGANIZATION? BECAUSE YOU REALLY NEED PRIVATE SECTOR INPUT ON THIS. AND IF I LOOK AT THIS, THIS BULLET LIST, AND THEN I GO TO YOUR, YOUR PAGE 11, TO THE LAST BULLET POINT, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY PEOPLE, AND THAT'S REALLY THE QUESTION BECAUSE THE BURDEN REALLY FALLS ON THE DESIGN COMMUNITY. AND IF I CAN CHIME IN A LITTLE BIT. SO ON THE UDC SIDE FOR PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT, UM, REALLY THE PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT ALREADY KIND FOLLOWS WHAT A COMPLETE STREETS LENS IS ABOUT. UM, A LOT OF THE NEW DEVELOPMENTS HAVE COMPONENTS OF, UH, STREET LIGHTING, TREES, SIDEWALKS, UM, UH, ENOUGH RIGHT OF WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ACCOMMODATE USERS. WHAT, WHAT THAT, THE REASON WHY WE WANNA DO A PHASE TWO FOR THE UD CS. THERE MIGHT BE SOME THINGS THAT WE NEED TO TWEAK. LIKE WE KNOW THAT THERE IS A REQUIREMENT FOR A 12 FOOT SHARED USE PATH, BUT MAYBE, MAYBE IT NEEDS TO BE CONTEXTUAL, RIGHT? MAYBE IT NEEDS TO BE DEPENDENT ON WHERE, WHERE YOU'RE AT, WHERE, WHERE THAT'S APPROPRIATE. SO THAT WAY IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CITY. SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE KIND OF WANNA TWEAK. I MEAN, PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT ALREADY DOES IT. WELL, EVEN PUBLIC DEVELOPMENT ALREADY DOES IT. WELL, IT'S JUST ABOUT UPDATING THAT, THAT, THAT LENS, IF YOU WILL, AND, AND OUR CHECKLIST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING IT BETTER. THANK YOU. GREAT. THANK YOU, ROBERT. SO ADDING ON TO THAT, I WAS GONNA ASK FOR THE INCLUSION OF THE WORD OF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND HOAS AS OPPOSED TO JUST STATING COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE AS THESE CORRIDORS ARE DEVELOPED AND AS THESE COMPLETE STREETS ARE IMPLEMENTED, THOSE ARE THE USERS OF THIS PRODUCT, AND THEY ALSO HAVE A LOT OF THE HISTORY IN THOSE AREAS. SO I JUST ASK FOR THE INCLUSION OF, UM, HOAS AND NEIGHBORHOODS. UH, YOU COULD PUT IT IN PARENTHESES NEXT TO COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS. UH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL, OR IF YOU EVEN WANTED TO SAY REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND HOAS WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. TO ME, IT PROMOTES THAT THE CITY WANTS NEIGHBORHOODS TO REGISTER SO THEY CAN HAVE A CONDUIT OF COMMUNICATION WHEN BIG PROJECTS LIKE THIS ARE BEING DONE. AND THEN I HAD A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT IS NEW AND WHAT IS OLD. I'M THINKING THERE'S SOME ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE IN RED THAT ARE NOT IN RED IN THE LANGUAGE. AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANNA START FROM THE TOP AND GO FROM THERE. SURE. SORRY. WE CAN DO THAT. YEAH. SO, SO GOING BACK TO, LET ME SEE WHERE I FOUND IT. UH, WE'LL GO TO THE VERY BEGINNING. HOW ABOUT PAGE FIVE, FIVE ON THE PDF COUNT UNDER VISION AND INTENT? IF, IF I COULD REALLY QUICKLY, [00:20:01] UM, AS KAT SAID EARLIER, THE COMPLETE STREETS POLICY FROM 2011 IS LIKE FOUR PAGES. THIS IS ALMOST ENTIRELY DIFFERENTLY WRITTEN. UM, SO THE RED HIGHLIGHTS ARE JUST FROM OUR LAST UPDATE WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS. SO SORRY FOR THAT CONFUSION. UM, BUT YES, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THE SECTIONS, AND I COULD ALSO BROADLY KIND OF GO OVER, LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, THE 2011 REALLY HAS THOSE VISION GOALS AND STATEMENTS. SO THERE, IT'S SIMILAR TO OUR VISION SECTION HERE. UM, BUT A LOT OF, UH, WE PUT A LOT MORE EMPHASIS ON IMPLEMENTATION IN THIS DOCUMENT THAN THERE WAS IN THE 20 11 1. SO THAT'S MY NUMBER ONE QUESTION. 'CAUSE WHEN I PULLED UP THE DOCUMENT ONLINE, I WAS LIKE, HOW DO WE GO FROM WHAT, FIVE PAGES TO 21? AND IT'S NOT READ. SO WHEN WE SEE IT, WE, I WOULD'VE THOUGHT WE WOULD'VE SEEN IT IN ITS RED VERSION OF ALL THE EDITS THAT ARE BEING DONE FROM THE LAST DOCUMENT, NOT THE FINAL VERSION COMING OUTTA THE STAKEHOLDER PROCESS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T SEE IT THROUGH. ITS, ITS EVOLUTION OF CHANGES. WE'RE ONLY SEEING IT FROM WHAT WAS THE LAST DOCUMENT IN, IN 2011 TO WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED TODAY IN 2024. AND SO THAT'S WHAT MY BIG QUESTION IS, BECAUSE THE LANGUAGE, I COULD SEE ALL THE NEW LANGUAGE THAT'S BEEN ADDED, BUT IT'S NOT IN RED. IT'S IN BLACK INDICATING THAT IT'S EXISTING, BUT IT'S NOT. SO I GUESS THAT'S A POINT OF CLARIFICATION. YEAH. TYPICALLY, UM, OUR UDC AMENDMENT, SINCE ITS CODE, YOU'LL, YOU'LL SEE THAT RED, UH, STRIKEOUT, BLUE UNDERLINE. AND, UH, THE BLACK, UH, FONT MEANS THAT WHAT'S CURRENTLY EXISTING, SINCE THIS IS A POLICY IN AN ENTIRELY NEW POLICY DOCUMENT, I HAVE THE OLD ONE. I THINK WE'RE GONNA TRY TO PUT THE OVERHEAD, UH, SCREEN ON. UM, IT, WE'RE JUST BASICALLY DELETING THE OLD POLICY AND ADOPTING THIS O OVER THE, OVER THE NEW POLICY. THERE'S A LOT OF WAREHOUSES IN THE OLD POLICY. SO, UM, TH THIS DOCUMENT IS ENTIRELY NEW. THE REASON WHY THOSE ARE READ, UM, IS BECAUSE THAT'S FROM THE LAST, UM, EDITS FROM THE STAKEHOLDERS, THE LAST ROUND OF EDITS FROM THE STAKEHOLDERS, JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE, UM, DID THOSE LAST, UH, UH, EDITS, UH, PRIOR TO THIS MEETING. BUT MOVING FORWARD, UH, DEPENDING UPON WHAT HAPPENS, IT WILL, UH, WE'LL HAVE IN OUR PRIME GOV THE OLD DOCUMENT, UH, THE OLD 2011 POLICY IN THIS ONE. AND NONE, YOU'LL SEE NOTHING IN RED. SO IN THEORY, WHAT, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TODAY SHOULD ALL BE IN RED. WELL, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE COMPARING IT TO A UDC AMENDMENT, THE WHOLE THING WOULD BE BLUE UNDERLINED. NO, I'M COMPARING IT TO YOUR LAST DOCUMENT. THAT WAS LAST POLICY. OH, THE OLD ONE WOULD BE ALL RED STRIKEOUT. OKAY. YEAH. UH, REAL QUICK, JUST FOR THE RECORD, UM, PAUL BASAL DOA AND ASHLEY FERMAN HAVE JOINED THE MEETING. OKAY. ANY MORE QUESTIONS, BIANCA? NO, THAT'S THE MAJORITY OF IT, TO BE HONEST. . OKAY. I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF, BECAUSE IT'S REFERENCING THINGS THAT HAVE OCCURRED SINCE THAT TIME. AND SO AS I STARTED READING AND I WAS LIKE, ALL OF THIS SHOULD BE READ. 'CAUSE IT'S ALL, IT'S ALL NEW. IT'S, IT'S ALL NEW CHRIS. YEAH. THE ENTIRE THING IS NEW. YES. OKAY. WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT, BUT THIS IS BASICALLY IT. THAT'S IT. OKAY. GOOD. OKAY. UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS, BIANCA? SORRY, I WAS GONNA , SORRY. PAGE SEVEN. COMMITMENT TO STORMWATER MITIGATION AND GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE. I WOULD BE HOPEFUL THAT THE CITY WOULD REFERENCE THE CRS PROGRAM AND OUR COMMITMENT TO MAINTAIN OUR RATING AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL. THAT IS HUGE. THANK YOU. CERTAINLY CAN. C-R-S-C-R-S, WHICH IS THE, UM, COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM. IT'S THE NATIONAL FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM FOR US TO MAINTAIN OUR RATING. THANK YOU. I'M ADDING THAT NOTE NOW. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE, BIANCA? NOT RIGHT, NOT RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. ALWAYS, ALWAYS FEEL FREE TO EMAIL ME OR KAT ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. YES, MA'AM. I, I WOULD SECOND, UH, BIANCA'S REQUEST, WELL, BOTH OF 'EM REALLY, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE SPECIFY THE COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS AND ALSO THAT GOING FORWARD TO ME, THIS IS, THIS IS THE, THE COMMITTEE THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE LOOKING AT THE DETAILS. AND I WOULD APPRECIATE A COMPARISON BETWEEN THE ORIGINAL POLICY AND ANYONE GOING FORWARD ON, ON FUTURE THINGS. OKAY. THANK YOU. BIANCA. I HAD A HOUSEKEEPING ISSUE AT THE BEGINNING WHEN YOU WERE NAMING THE, UH, [00:25:01] THE HEADS OF DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. THERE'S JUST AN INCONSISTENCY, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S THE DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION, BUT SHE'S ALSO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICER. SO YOU HAVE THE SUSTAINABILITY OFFICER, BUT HE'S ALSO THE DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT OF SUSTAINABILITY. SO I JUST DIDN'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, IF THERE WAS A, A COMMONALITY TO, YOU KNOW, THEY WEAR TWO HATS ESSENTIALLY IN SOME OF THESE POSITIONS. YEAH. UH, THE FORMAL TITLES FOR SOME OF THEM ARE OFFICE COMPARED TO DEPARTMENT. AND THAT'S WHY SOME OF THEM HAVE, UH, LIKE CHIEF OFFICER AND INSTEAD OF, UM, DIRECTOR 'CAUSE THEIR TITLE. IS THAT CORRECT, KAT? THEIR TITLE IS ACTUALLY DIFFERENT. YEAH. AND WHAT WE CAN, WHERE, WHERE WE NEED TO CLEAN THAT UP, WE CAN DO THAT AND, OR YEAH. JUST IN CASE IT EVER CHANGES IN THE FUTURE. , MR. CHAIR? YES, MA'AM. I'M SORRY. THE DRAFT ON THE LARGE SCREEN, I CAN'T READ IT ON THAT SMALL SCREEN. I, I KNOW YOU'VE GOT THE ORIGINAL. DO YOU KNOW HOW TO SWITCH IT BACK? YEAH. CAN YOU SWITCH IT BACK? OH, YES. YES. I'LL ALSO SAY THAT THE DRAFT IS, UM, ALSO NOT JUST BUILT OFF OF STAKEHOLDER FEEDBACK, BUT ALSO SMART GROWTH AMERICA'S RECOMMENDATIONS, AS WELL AS CITY HEALTH'S RECOMMENDATIONS. AND THEY SPENT A LOT OF TIME TO REALLY DEVELOP THESE POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS. COULD WE GET A PAGE 11 SO WE COULD SEE THAT LAST BULLET POINT? YEAH. COMFORTABLE. THAT'S THE BULLET WHERE WE'RE GONNA ADD, UM, INFORMATION ABOUT REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS. MM-HMM, . SO ON EXTERNAL ISSUE AREA EXPERTS, UM, WOULD THAT INCLUDE THE REAL ESTATE INSTITUTE, THE BOARD OF REALTORS? IS THAT, YES. OKAY. ANY MORE QUESTIONS? NO, THAT'S GOOD. ANYBODY ELSE? BIANCA OF EXPERIENCE? UM, IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS WHILE, UH, WE'RE WAITING, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN EDIT ON PAGE 13. LET'S SEE HERE. UH, IT'S AFTER THE FIRST SENTENCE WHERE IT SAYS, WITHIN A YEAR OF THIS POLICY PASSING, THE CITY SHALL BEGIN A REVIEW OF CITY POLICIES, PROCEDURES, AND REGULATIONS TO PROPOSE UPDATES TO MEET THE GOALS OF THIS COMPLETE STREET POLICY. I'D LIKE TO ADD A SENTENCE THAT SAYS, ANY UDC AMENDMENTS PROPOSED DURING THIS REVIEW WILL BE SUBMITTED DURING THE NORMAL UDC AMENDMENT CYCLE. OKAY. THAT WAY WE DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK. NO, THAT'S A GOOD ONE. I WAS, I WAS SAYING THAT'S A GREAT ONE. YEAH. IF I CAN KIND OF SPEAK TO THAT ONE, WELL DEFINITELY ADD THAT SCROLL TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLARIFIED. 'CAUSE USUALLY WHAT, UH, WHAT WE WANNA DO IS WE WANT THE GROUP TO, UM, BE ABLE TO REVIEW OVER THE NEXT YEAR IN TIME TO SUBMIT FOR THE UDC AMENDMENT, UH, PROCESS. SO THAT WAY WE AREN'T WAITING FOR THE SUBMITTAL AND THEN STARTING THAT DIALOGUE. BECAUSE THEN WE ONLY HAVE A TIGHT TIMELINE, AS YOU KNOW, IN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. WE LIKE TO PREP ALL THESE THINGS PRIOR TO, AND THAT'S THE INTENT OF STARTING WITHIN A YEAR, PUTTING THAT, UH, COMMITTEE TOGETHER, STARTING THE REVIEW OF THE UDC AND THEN PACKAGE PACKAGING THEM UP WITH A PRETTY RED BOW AND THEN SUBMITTING THEM THROUGH THE CYCLE. THANK YOU. KAT, COULD, COULD WE SCROLL UP TO THAT? I'M SORRY. WE'RE, WE'RE NOT FOLLOWING. I BELIEVE IT WAS AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE, HIS EDIT. IT'S RIGHT HERE. IT'S, SO, IT'S THAT PARAGRAPH. YES. OKAY. SO IT WOULD BE RIGHT AFTER THIS SENTENCE WHERE, UH, HIS EDITED SENTENCE WOULD GO TO BE SUBMITTED DURING THE NORMAL UDC AMENDMENT CYCLE. OKAY. I THOUGHT HE SAID AT THE, AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE. I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING THAT. UM, SO IF WE MAKE THAT AMENDMENT ON PAGE 13, ON PAGE 17, IN THE FIRST PARAGRAPH IT SAYS, ALL NEW AND IN PROGRESS PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS MUST COMPLY WITH THE COMPLETE STREETS POLICY POLICY. SHOULD THAT BE CARRIED OR THE MODIFICATION BE CARRIED OVER THERE? OR ARE WE ASSUMING THAT IT'S JUST GONNA FOLLOW SUIT? SO, KAT, IF, I THINK IF YOU SCROLL DOWN THESE, THESE ARE EXCEPTIONS FOR [00:30:01] INTERNAL, UM, PARTNERS. SO IT'D BE LIKE PUBLIC WORKS, ANY BOND PROJECTS. UH, IT ISN'T FOCUSED TOWARDS OUTSIDE DEVELOPERS, PRIVATE DEVELOPERS, BUT THAT'S NOT CLEAR. I MEAN, PUBLIC, YEAH, PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE IS PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, REGARDLESS OF WHO'S DESIGNING AND CONSTRUCTING IT. IF YOU MAKE THAT STATEMENT, IT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE AT THE, TOWARDS THE BEGINNING OF THE DOCUMENT, NOT EMBEDDED IN WHERE YOU MIGHT ENCOUNTER EXCEPTIONS. MM-HMM. . AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT AN EXCEPTION, MEANING IT HAS TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS TO NOT COMPLY AT THIS POINT. YEAH. SO I THINK IT'S IN ALL PROJECTS AND PHASES, WE DO HAVE SOME LANGUAGE THAT, UM, THE GOAL IS THAT AS THESE POLICIES ARE UPDATED THROUGH THE NORMAL PRACTICE, IT MIGHT NOT BE ALL PROJECTS AND PHASES. THAT SO FAR, I'M ON PAGE SEVEN. IT MIGHT, IT MIGHT BEING THE DEVELOPER. YEAH. AS FAR AS FOLLOWING THIS POLICY'S RECOMMENDATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS, IT WOULD BE BASED OFF OF, AS POLICY GETS UPDATED. AND SO FOR INSTANCE, PRIVATE DEVELOPERS WOULDN'T NEED TO FOLLOW THIS POLICY UNTIL THE UDC IS UPDATED. AND I, I THINK WE DISCUSSED THAT IN A FEW DIFFERENT SPOTS. I FEEL LIKE WE DO IT IN THE FIRST SECTION. RIGHT. SO, UM, JUST TO GIVE SOME CONTEXT. SO WE KNOW THAT PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT, UH, COMPLIES WITH UDC STANDARDS, RIGHT? AND THERE IS WITHIN THE UDC, UH, WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S ADMINISTRATIVE EXCEPTIONS, VARIANCES THAT ARE REQUIRED, THAT PROCESS DOES NOT CHANGE, UH, WITH THIS COMPLETE STREETS POLICY. THE POLICY IS ABOUT, UH, LOOKING AT OUR CODES AND HOW WE, UH, IMPLEMENT COMPLETE STREETS, COMPLETE STREETS THROUGH A LENS. SO, UH, WHEN OUR, UH, WHEN OUR CITY PROJECTS, AND WE CAN HELP TO CLARIFY WHENEVER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT THE, THE THINGS THAT THE CITY, UM, OR OUR, UH, PARTNERING AGENCIES, UH, DO ALONG OUR STREETS. SO THAT'S WHAT WE MEANT. WELL, THAT'S WHAT THE INTENT OF PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE IS. SO THE COMPLETE STREETS POLICY AND THE CHECKLIST AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO INTERNALLY IS ABOUT OUR PROJECTS. UM, THE EXCEPTIONS ARE ABOUT OUR PROJECTS AS WELL, BECAUSE AGAIN, THE UDC GOVERNS VARIANCES AND EXCEPTIONS FOR PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT. AND THAT, AND THAT DOES NOT CHANGE IT. I THINK WE IN THE DOCUMENT CLARIFY THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT FOLLOWS THIS PROCESS, OUR PUBLIC PROJECTS, UH, FOLLOW THE, THE COMPLETE STREETS POLICY AND WHATEVER COMES OUT IN PHASE TWO, WHAT THAT CHECKLIST LOOKS LIKE, UH, WHAT THAT MANUAL LOOKS LIKE IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ALSO FOLLOWING OUR, OUR POLICY. SO HOPEFULLY THAT KIND OF GIVES YOU CONTEXT. SO CAN WE TALK ABOUT WHAT WORDS WE'D BE AMENDING HERE? AND I GUESS, WHAT'S THE PARAGRAPH? PROBABLY RIGHT ABOVE WHAT YOU'VE GOT HIGHLIGHTED. 'CAUSE IT TALKS ABOUT CONSISTENCY AND WE'LL HAVE A UDC AMENDMENT, BUT IT ISN'T CLEAR THAT UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THERE'S AMENDMENT THAT THIS ISN'T INCLUDED. AND IT'S, AND MAKING SURE I ALSO UNDERSTAND THIS IS ONLY STREETS WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS CONSTRUCTED BY DEVELOPERS, BECAUSE IN THE ETJ, THEY'RE ALSO COMPLYING WITH THE UDC. THEY ARE, BUT JUST WANTING TO BE VERY CLEAR HERE. AND AGAIN, PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT, THE, THE INTENT IS NOT TO CHANGE WHAT THAT REVIEW OR VARIANCE PROCESS LOOKS LIKE FOR PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT. UH, BUT AGAIN, THE STANDARDS THAT ARE WITHIN THE UDC, AGAIN ALREADY BEING DONE TODAY, UH, WITH, UH, OUR CURRENT REQUIREMENTS FOR RIGHT OF WAY, DEDICATION, SIDEWALK REQUIREMENTS, UH, UH, ALL OF THOSE COMPONENTS, UH, THAT THE INTENT IS NOT TO CHANGE WHAT THAT PROCESS LOOKS LIKE. IT, IT'S JUST TO TWEAK IT WHERE WE, WHERE WE NEED TO TWEAK IT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CONT HAS CONTEXT. SO THIS POLICY DOESN'T, DOESN'T RECOMMEND OR ADOPT UDC CHANGES TODAY. IT'S JUST AGAIN, ABOUT AN OVERARCHING GOAL OF HOW WE LOOK AT HOW WE, UH, DEVELOP IN OUR RIGHT OF WAY. OKAY. I JUST THINK SOMEBODY WHO DOESN'T DO THIS EVERY DAY AND PICKS THIS UP, THIS IS NOT CLEAR THAT A DEVELOPER DRIVEN PROJECT WILL NOT HAVE TO FOLLOW THIS POLICY UNTIL THE UDC IS AMEND AMENDED. [00:35:01] I DON'T THINK THAT'S CLEAR. OKAY. WE CAN, WE CAN ADD SOME LANGUAGE. SHE HASN'T BEEN INVOLVED IN A STAKEHOLDER GROUP, I DON'T THINK THAT'S CLEAR. OKAY. OH, GOOD. PERFECT. UH, AND AGAIN, WE ALREADY HAVE A 2011 COMPLETE STREETS POLICY, UM, THAT IS IN PLACE TODAY. AGAIN, A LOT OF WHEREAS IS OVERARCHING GOALS. UH, BUT YES, WE CAN ADD SOME CLARIFYING LANGUAGE. CAN WE, CAN WE DO THAT HERE? YEAH. SO THAT WE CAN MOVE ABSOLUTELY. MOVE FORWARD. OTHERWISE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME BACK. YEAH. 'CAUSE WE'RE APPROVING TODAY, RIGHT? YEAH. SO WE NEED TO SEE THE EXACT WORDS. UH, CORRECT. CHAIRMAN, UH, MY QUESTION IS WITH ALL THE, UH, POTENTIAL RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CHANGES AND MODIFICATIONS, UM, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS TODAY, CORRECT? OR ARE WE GETTING IT? OKAY. WE CAN WORK OUT THE WORDING HERE, THEN WE'LL BE GOOD TO GO. ARE YOU HAVING FLASHBACKS TO UDC REVISION? IT, IT KIND OF FEELS LIKE IT SIT HERE, ROBERT. TILL WE'RE DONE. BIANCA. WELL, IN BUILDING ON THE CONVERSATION AT ISSUE, UM, THE EXCEPTIONS AND HOW THE EXCEPTIONS ARE GRANTED, UM, THE LANGUAGE SPECIFICALLY BELOW THE SEVEN EXCEPTIONS, WHICH IS LISTED ON PAGE 18 OF THE PDF, IT SAYS ANY REQUEST FOR EXCEPTIONS WITHIN CATEGORIES ONE THROUGH FOUR ABOVE SHALL BE REVIEWED BY THE COMPLETE STREETS TECHNICAL REVIEW TASK FORCE. ONCE THE COMPLETE STREETS TECHNICAL REVIEW TASK FORCE DISSOLVES, THE REVIEW OF PUBLIC COMMENTS WILL BE CONDUCTED BY THE STANDING TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE. WHO IS THAT STANDING TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE? SO THE WAY THE STANDING TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE IS DISCUSSED CURRENTLY IS THAT THEY, IT WOULD BE A COMMITTEE THAT SERVES FOR COMPLETE STREETS AS WELL AS FOR OUR BYTE NETWORK PLAN AS IT'S GETTING UPDATED AS WELL AS VISION ZERO. AND SO IT'S NOT IRONED OUT LIKE THE NAME OR THE PROCESSES. WE'LL HAVE SOME IT BE SOPS TO IDENTIFY HOW THOSE PEOPLE WILL BE SELECTED. BUT IDEALLY IT WOULD BE A REFLECTION OF BOTH, UH, COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS AND MEMBERS, AS WELL AS EXPERTISE IN THE FIELD, UH, TO PROVIDE OVERSIGHT. SO IT SHOULD, YOU'RE SAYING A STANDING TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE THAT CURRENTLY DOES NOT EXIST? CORRECT. THIS IS CALLING FOR THE CREATION OF IT. OKAY. AND TO PROVIDE OVERSIGHT. AND YOU MENTIONED THE COMPOSITION OF THAT STANDING TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE. IS THAT LANGUAGE IN THIS DOCUMENT? SOME OF IT IS. AGAIN, IT'S NOT LAID OUT IN IRONED OUT BECAUSE IT'S PART OF THE PHASE TWO PROCESS OF DEVELOPING THE, THOSE COMMITTEES. I JUST HAVE CONCERN BECAUSE THIS IS GONNA BE A CHECK AND BALANCE, AND THIS IS YOUR BALANCE. AND THE BALANCE IS NOT DEFINED. IT'S AMBIGUOUS. AND I UNDERSTAND IN A POLICY, SOMETIMES THERE IS SOME AMBIGUITY, BUT IN MY OPINION, WHEN YOU LOOK AT EXCEPTIONS, IT SHOULD BE MORE ESTABLISHED. AND SO WITHOUT A DEFINITION FOR THIS STANDING TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE OR ADDITIONAL DETAIL IN THIS DOCUMENT, OTHER THAN I APPRECIATE YOUR EXPLANATION, BUT WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, WE ALL COME AND GO. SO WE NEED SOMETHING THAT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE REFINED, I THINK, AND PROVIDES A LITTLE BIT MORE GUARDRAILS PER SE, ON WHAT THAT WOULD ENTAIL. BECAUSE TO IRON OUT A POLICY AND THEN SAY, OH, YOU CAN HAVE EXCEPTIONS, YOU KNOW, WE, WE GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ON THE ONE THROUGH FOUR, BUT WE DON'T FOR THE OTHERS. SO THAT'S MY BIG CONCERN. SO, AND, AND, AND ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE SUPPOSED TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS TODAY. SURE. JUST, JUST TO CLARIFY, ARE THERE CONCERNS, 'CAUSE THE, IT'S DESCRIBED IN ONE SECTION, THE, THE CREATION OF IT AND WHO WOULD BE INVOLVED. IT'S IN ONE SECTION AND THEN IT'S MENTIONING EXCEPTIONS AS THE OVERSIGHT FOR IT. SO IS THERE A NEED TO CLARIFY EXCEPTIONS AS WELL AS THE ROLES IN THE OTHER SECTION? I WOULD SAY YES. OKAY. AND THEN IF YOU'RE REFERENCING IT ELSEWHERE, I WOULD CAPITALIZE THE STANDING TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE AS OPPOSED TO VAGUELY REFERENCING IT, BECAUSE IT, IT WILL BE A, A CERTAIN TYPE OF COMMITTEE. WHEN YOU SAY TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, WELL, THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS THAT COULD BE ASSIMILATED TO THAT TITLE. AND SO, YOU KNOW, GIVING IT A, A TRUE TITLE, NOT JUST A TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE THAT REFERENCES IN BOTH PARTS OF THE DOCUMENT WOULD PROVIDE BETTER CLARITY. THANK YOU. CLARITY TO YOUR INTENT. MM-HMM. . AND THEN A GENERAL COMMENT I HAD ALSO WOULD BE TO ADD, UM, ABOUT ESSAY SPEAK [00:40:01] UP IN YOUR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, SINCE THAT IS A RECOGNIZED TOOL THAT'S BRANDED BY THE CITY FOR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. YOU REFERENCE IT IN YOUR PRESENTATION. I WOULD ASK THAT THAT BE INCLUDED IN YOUR DOCUMENTS WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT TO UTILIZE, UM, ESSAY SPEAK UP FOR ENGAGING WITH THE PUBLIC SO THAT THERE'S THAT TRANSPARENT INTERFACE MM-HMM. AS THINGS, UH, CHANGE AND EVOLVE. SO THANK YOU. AND THERE'S SEVERAL AREAS IN THE DOCUMENT WHERE IT COULD BE ADDED. MR. CHAIR. SO I, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT, BIANCA, BECAUSE I, I GUESS MY POINT IS, IS THAT TOO SPECIFIC? DO WE WANNA LEAVE IT OPEN FOR OTHER, UH, AVENUES THAT MIGHT, UH, ARISE IN THE FUTURE THAT ALLOWS THE CITY TO COMMUNICATE TO THE PUBLIC? YOU COULD, WE COULD REFERENCE THEIR, UM, THEIR POLICY ON IT, WHICH IS ADVANCING. OH, IS IT, UH, UH, PUBLIC PARTICIPATION PRINCIPLES, WHICH IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE DIRECTIVE RECOMMENDED BY COUNCIL. BUT I WOULD THINK WITH ALL THE BRANDING AND THE MONEY THAT'S BEING SPENT FOR AS THEY SPEAK UP, THAT IS THE PRIMARY INTERFACE FOR YOUR A AND YOUR B SESSION. IT'S KIND OF LIKE REGISTRAR WAS BEFORE, IT TOOK A WHILE FOR THAT TO GO AWAY, . SO THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I, YOU KNOW, IT'S A BRANDING, IT'S A HASHTAG FOR THE CITY. THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I, I'M, IT'S WHERE PEOPLE GO TO GET INFORMATION RIGHT NOW. YEAH. SO MAYBE THE LANGUAGE WOULD SAY INCLUDING YES. LET'S SAY SPEAK UP CORRECT. AND OTHER AND OTHER TOOLS. THAT WOULD BE PERFECT. THANK YOU. SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE ONLINE, UH, EVERYTHING SHOULD BE PROVIDED ONLINE. SO I CAN ADD INCLUDING ESSAY SPEAK UP, UM, TO THAT SECTION, IF THAT WORKS FOR EVERYONE. I THINK THAT WOULD BE BEST BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE LIKE A LANDING PAGE MM-HMM. , SOMEBODY MAY NOT KNOW TO GO TO THAT LANDING PAGE, BUT THEY MAY KNOW TO GO TO ESSAY SPEAK UP BECAUSE THEY GO FOR ALL THE PUBLICLY NOTICED MEETINGS ON THAT PLATFORM. MM-HMM. . SO THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL. THANK YOU. SO THIS IS HOW THE STANDING TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE IS DESCRIBED CURRENTLY. IS THERE ANY LANGUAGE YOU'D LIKE TO ADD TO THIS SECTION? IT'S, IT'S THE SECOND PARAGRAPH UP FROM THE BOTTOM, OR NO, I'M SORRY, THREE PARAGRAPHS UP FROM THE BOTTOM. IT'S THE BEGINNING. I THINK IT'S JUST ABOUT THE TITLE. LIKE TO ME IT'S MAYBE CAP CAPITALIZE THE T AND CAPITALIZE THE C BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, I THINK IT COULD ASSIMILATE TO ANY TYPE OF TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE WITHIN THE CITY, OR EVEN AN EXTERNAL ONE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T CLEARLY SAY IT'S AN INTERNAL CITY OF SAN ANTONIO TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? LIKE TO ME IT WAS JUST THE TITLE, THE CONSISTENCY OF THE LANGUAGE. AND I WOULD ASK THAT THERE BE A BALANCE, THAT IT'S NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, WHOLLY INTERNAL, THAT IT'S AN EXTERNAL, THAT IT'S A BALANCE BETWEEN INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL. THAT IT'S NOT SO HEAVILY, UM, UH, COMPRISED OF INTERNAL REPRESENTATION. I THINK THERE JUST NEEDS TO BE A BALANCE. IS IT GONNA BE, THIS IS ALMOST ENTIRELY PUBLIC. WELL, BUT THERE IS, SO THERE IS A REFERENCE, 'CAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE EXTERNAL FOR THE STANDING TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE. SO IT SAYS, SHALL PROVIDE A HOLISTIC REPRESENTATION OF SAN ANTONIO'S DIVERSITY, AND IF POSSIBLE INCLUDE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THESE COMMUNITIES, POPULATIONS THEMSELVES. DID YOU WANT, UH, MORE CLARIFICATION THERE? UH, THAT 'CAUSE THAT IS ALSO, THAT INCLUDES EXTERNAL, I WOULD JUST ASK THAT IT BE BALANCED. UM, OKAY. YEAH. IT HAS BOTH, UH, THAT SENTENCE REFERENCES THE EXTERNAL MM-HMM. . AND THEN THE SENTENCE AFTER THAT, UH, WHERE IT SAYS SENIOR LEVEL STAFF, UM, WORK CLOSELY IS THE INTERNAL. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. SO HOW DO WE KNOW HOW MANY, LIKE, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ON THAT? IS THAT RIGHT? IS IT GONNA BE A DEFINED COMMITTEE? LIKE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S 12 MEMBERS OR WHATEVER IT IS, OR HOW IS THAT GONNA BE? YES. HOW IS IT GONNA BE CREATED? THE INTENT OF THE, OF THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE IS, UH, TO LOOK AT ALL, UM, ALL OF THE THINGS THAT, ALL OF THE INITIATIVES THAT WE'RE WORKING ON. THE OTHER INITIATIVE WE'RE WORKING ON IS THE BIKE NETWORK PLAN. AND SO, UH, WE HAVE BIKE TYPOLOGIES THAT ARE GONNA COME OUT OF THAT PROCESS. AND, UM, OUR, OUR HOPE IS THAT THIS, UH, THIS COMMITTEE IS ABLE TO LOOK [00:45:01] AT ALL OF THOSE THINGS RATHER THAN HAVING US CREATE A COMMITTEE FOR THIS ONE AND A COMMITTEE FOR THIS ONE AND COMMITTEE FOR THIS ONE. IF WE CAN LOOK AT ALL THINGS RELATED TO STREETS RIGHT OF WAY, UM, A PEDESTRIAN, CYCLISTS, ALL OF THOSE THINGS THROUGH THE LENS, WE'D HAVE THIS TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE THAT WOULD LOOK AT ALL OF THOSE ISSUES. SO WE DIDN'T PUT A, A FINITE NUMBER, UM, BUT WE WANTED TO BE SURE THAT DEPENDING UPON THE ISSUE OR THE SUBJECT THAT WE PULL IN THOSE EXPERTS, WE PULL IN THOSE REPRESENTATIVES THAT WANT TO BE PART OF THAT PROCESS, UM, BASED ON THE ISSUE. SO IT'S A DYNAMIC COMMITTEE JUST DEPENDING ON WHAT THE ISSUE IS? YES. OKAY. ALSO, YEAH, IDEALLY IT WOULD HAVE ITS OWN SET OF REGULATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH IT. AND IT MIGHT, UH, THERE ARE SOME COMMITTEES THAT GO THROUGH, UH, THE COUNCIL OFFICE. AND SO SOME OF THAT IS FLEXIBLE RIGHT NOW AND WILL BE DEFINED IN PHASE TWO WITH THEIR OWN DOCUMENTS TO REALLY OUTLINE HOW PEOPLE CAN GET ELECTED TO IT OR HOW THEY'RE SELECTED, AS WELL AS THE AMOUNT AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IT JUST DEPENDS. WE DON'T WANNA BOX OURSELVES IN BEFORE WE GET A REAL CHANCE TO WORK WITH ALL THESE DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THE PROJECT. BUT KAT, WHEN YOU DO THE UDC AMENDMENTS, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DEFINE THAT COMMITTEE WITH THE UDC AMENDMENTS, RIGHT? IF YOU'RE INCLUDING EXCEPTIONS, SHOULDN'T THAT BE A PART OF THE UDC? SO THE COMMITTEE THAT WILL LOOK AT UDC UH, EXCEPTIONS, UM, IT WOULD SIMILAR TO HOW WE DO OTHER UDC AMENDMENTS, WE CREATE A TASK FORCE THAT, UH, THAT LOOKS LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN, UH, THE PREVIOUS AMENDMENT CYCLE THERE, THE, THE ACTUAL AMENDMENT WAS SUBMITTED THROUGH THE PROCESS FIRST, THEN I, AT A PTAC GREW A SUBCOMMITTEE IN WHICH THEY LOOKED AT ALL OF THOSE. UM, THE LANGUAGE, OUR INTENT IS TO DO THAT BEFORE WE GET TO THAT PROCESS. SO WE WOULD, AGAIN, UTILIZING THOSE THAT WOULD ARE, THAT ARE IMPACTED AND AFFECTED AND WANT TO SEE THOSE CHANGES, WE'LL REACH OUT TO SAY, OKAY, HEY, WE'RE WE'RE DOING THIS. IT WOULD BE IT THAT WOULD BE DIFFERENT FROM THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE ITSELF. RIGHT. I THINK WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK IS, SORRY, UM, WAS THE EXCEPTIONS TO THE POLICY, WHICH THE STANDING TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE CAN APPROVE EXCEPTIONS FOR FOR CITY PROJECTS? CORRECT. FOR, FOR CITY PROJECTS? SO IF THAT IS PART OF THE, IS THAT GOING TO BE PART OF THE UDC? NO, UDC GOVERNS THE, THE PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT THAT, THAT PROCESS DOES NOT CHANGE. THIS PROCESS FOR THE EXCEPTIONS IS, IS RELATED TO LIKE OUR BOND PROJECTS, OUR, UM, CITY, UH, STREET MAINTENANCE PROJECTS OR, UH, STREET REBUILD PROJECTS. THAT THAT'S WHAT THAT CLEAR AND EXCEPTION, CLEAR AND ACCOUNTABLE EXCEPTIONS, UH, SECTION IS REFERRING TO. WHAT IS THE CURRENT FLOW OF THIS TYPE OF EXCEPTION THROUGH THE PROCESS? AND IS IT CHANGING? WE'RE SAYING THAT IT'S GOING TO GO TO THIS STANDING TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE. WHERE WOULD IT GO AFTER THAT? YEAH, SO CURRENTLY THERE'S AN EXCEPTION PROCESS. THIS IS A NEW INITIATIVE AND GOAL OF THE POLICY. AND SO RIGHT NOW THERE'S A COMPLETE STREETS CHECKLIST THAT IS IDEALLY USED INTERNALLY. UM, AS THIS DOCUMENT REQUIRES ALL PROJECTS IN ALL PHASES, THAT'S A LOT MORE IN DEPTH. AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THE EXCEPTIONS ARE LISTED. SO IDEALLY THE EXCEPTION PROCESS WOULD BE, OKAY, YOU DON'T THINK YOU CAN MEET THE COMPLETE STREETS CHECKLIST REQUIREMENTS. HERE ARE THE REASONS WHY DO YOU MEET ONE OF THOSE NEEDS? YOU DO A FEW, YOU'D PROVIDE, UM, PUBLICLY AVAILABLE REASONING, UH, FOR THAT PROJECT AND WHY IT CAN'T BE INCLUDED. AND THEN IF THE FINAL DECISION IS THAT IT DOES NOT NEED TO MEET THAT COMPLETE STREETS CHECKLIST OR PROCESS, THEN IT WOULD CONTINUE ITS PROCESS WITHOUT MAKING ANY EDITS OR CHANGES TO THE DESIGN. SO IF I UNDERSTAND THIS TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE WILL BE ITS LAST STEP, IT WON'T THEN HAVE TO GO THROUGH PLANNING OR YES, CORRECT. MM-HMM. , THANK YOU. SORRY. UM, I'M GOING TO DIVE DOWN INTO THE WEEDS A LITTLE BIT HERE. UM, SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BIGGEST OBSTACLES TO A COMPLETE STREET, UM, IN SAN ANTONIO IS CPS INFRASTRUCTURE. UM, IT'S FUNNY, EVEN ONE OF THE EXAMPLES THAT WAS SHOWN, THE CALLAHAN EXAMPLE, YOU HAVE UTILITY POLES. UM, MAYBE THERE'S TRAVEL DISTANCE BETWEEN THE UTILITY POLE AND THE WALL, BUT THAT'S, IN MANY CASES, THERE'S NOT, YOU HAVE UTILITY POLES LITERALLY RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF SIDEWALKS. UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, IS THERE A WAY TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT CPS IS PART OF THIS CONVERSATION? MORE SO THEY ALONE DETERMINE WHERE THOSE POLLS GO. THERE'S VERY LITTLE, I MEAN, DEVELOPERS DON'T REALLY HAVE MUCH, SAY THE CITY DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE MUCH SAY. SO, YOU KNOW, AT A MINIMUM COULD THEY BE A PART OF THE TECHNICAL [00:50:01] REVIEW TASK FORCE? UM, I SEE THAT VIA IS ON THERE, BUT I DIDN'T SEE CBS JUST SO THERE'S SOME GREATER ACCOUNTABILITY. I I DON'T KNOW THAT IN THEIR PROCESS THAT THEY'RE, IN ANY CASE, LOOKING AT, AT, UM, PEDESTRIAN ACCESSIBILITY, WHEN THEY DECIDE WHERE TO PUT A POLE, IT'S REALLY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE FOR THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH IS IMPORTANT. OBVIOUSLY WE ALL LIKE ELECTRICITY, BUT, UM, BUT THERE IS THIS OTHER CONSIDERATION AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IF SOMETHING COULD BE DONE, EVEN IF IT'S AT A SLIGHTLY HIGHER COST, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT CAN WE DO TO REALLY HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR, UM, MAKING THOSE RIGHT DECISIONS? SO, UM, THEY, WE WE'RE GONNA START WORKING WITH THEM ON, UH, DIFFERENT IDEAS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT PROCESS THAT WE'RE DOING. UH, WE STARTED, UH, SOME INITIAL DIALOGUES WITH THEM ABOUT, UM, UH, APPROACHING THEM WITH, HEY, WHAT WE'RE, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, RIGHT? BECAUSE EVERYTHING, SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE WORK, WE WORK ON VISION ZERO ACTION PLAN, WHICH IS ABOUT GETTING TO ZERO FATALITIES AND SAFETY IS REALLY THE, THE, THE, THE GUIDANCE THAT DRIVES THE REST OF OUR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. SO OUT OF THAT COMES COMPLETE STREETS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES, UH, FOR ALL MODES OF TRANSPORTATION. UH, TOD, THAT'S ANOTHER WAY OF CREATING, UM, UH, AN ENVIRONMENT THAT IS, UH, THAT ALLOWS FOR DIFFERENT MODES OF TRANSIT THAT'S REALLY CENTERED AROUND LIKE BUS RAPID TRANSIT OR ADVANCED RAPID TRANSIT. UH, SO WE'RE STARTING THE DIALOGUE WITH BOTH CPS AND SAWS THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE TOD AMENDMENT PROCESS, UM, TO SEE HOW WE CAN START ENGAGING THEM WITH THAT. SO THAT WAY IT, IT HELPS TO SET THEM UP FOR THE NEXT STAGE OF PERHAPS SOME UDC AMENDMENTS HOLISTICALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, HOW MUCH RIGHT OF WAY THAT THEY NEED OR EASEMENT, UH, EASEMENTS THAT THEY NEED, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT IN THE CITY. SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA START THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM, BUT WE GOTTA START SMALL FIRST BABY STEPS. I MEAN, WOULD IT MAKE SENSE JUST TO HAVE 'EM AS A MEMBER OF THE YES. THE TASK FORCE? SO AT LEAST THERE'S SOME AWARENESS ON THEIR PART? YES. OKAY. YES. BRAGMAN. GOOD. SO DOES THIS ALSO, UM, UM, SO IF, IF A STREET IS BEING REDONE, SAY CPS IS, YOU KNOW, BEARING SUB LINES INSTEAD OF HAVING ABOVE, YOU KNOW, IF, IF, IF THERE'S ANY CHANGES TO THE, THE STREET, DOES THIS ALSO COME INTO EFFECT AND AT, AT WHAT PERCENTAGE YOU WANNA, DO YOU WANNA START FIRST? YEAH. YEAH. I, OH, DO YOU WANNA, OKAY. SO NOT EVERYTHING IS GONNA GO THROUGH THAT LENS. THERE ARE SOME IMMEDIATE EXCEPTIONS, EMERGENCY REPAIRS. SO SOMETIMES SOME OF THOSE THINGS MIGHT BE EMERGENCY REPAIRS. THEY DON'T WANNA HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS, THIS CHECKLIST AND THE COMMITTEE, UM, NORMAL, UH, MAINTENANCE, UM, THAT WON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE COMMITTEE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT REDOING ANYTHING. THEY'RE JUST DOING NORMAL MAINTENANCE. UH, SO LIKE MELON OVERLAY THAT MAY BE JUST A CLASSIFIED AS NORMAL MAINTENANCE. UM, AND THEN WHAT WAS THE THIRD? UM, JUST FOR AN EXAMPLE. SO IT'S PROJECT WITH ROUTINE MAINTENANCE. YEAH. ANY, UM, REPAIRS, UH, EMERGENCY REPAIRS, ANY PROJECTS IN FINAL DESIGN. OH, AUTOMATICALLY POTHOLE REPAIR. THAT WAS THE OTHER ONE THAT, UH, WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT POTHOLE, POTHOLE REPAIR. WON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS, THIS PROCESS. SO, SO, SO EVERYTHING EXCEPT THAT. SO IF THERE'S, LIKE, AGAIN, USING THE EXAMPLE CPAS IS VARYING LINES OR YEAH. SO THIS THEN AFFECTS THAT IT, AGAIN, IF IT'S EMERGENCY REPAIR, IT WON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH, RIGHT? YEAH. SO BARRING THOSE EXCEPTIONS. YEAH. OKAY. THEY, WELL, WHEN, WHEN THEY COME IN, THEY ALWAYS WORK WITH, UH, PUBLIC WORKS AND, AND OUR TEAMS AND WE'LL, UH, THEY'LL DEFINE WHAT THAT PROJECT IS AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL ASSESS IT TO SAY, OKAY, THEY'RE JUST DOING THIS OF, AND, AND IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE ANY OF THE, OF WHAT THE STREET LOOKS LIKE. IT'S JUST BEARING OF, OF THE LINES THEN YEAH. WE'LL, WE'LL WORK WITH THEM TO SEE HOW WE CAN EXPEDITE THAT REVIEW. CRUZ. UM, I, NOW YOU'VE GOT ME THINKING CAST. UH, OH. UM, WELL, BECAUSE LIKE RIGHT NOW THEY'RE RESURFACING MM-HMM. SUPPOSEDLY. MM-HMM. ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE, MAYBE SIX STREETS OFF OF, BETWEEN AND ALITOS IN DISTRICT FIVE. SO IF THEY'RE REDOING THAT NOW, WILL IT AFFECT THE UPCOMING PROJECTS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE COMPLETED SUPPOSEDLY WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR ACCORDING TO THE COUNCIL? IF THEY'RE ALREADY WITHIN THE DESIGN PROCESS ALREADY, UM, AND, UM, CLOSE TO THE ACTUAL [00:55:01] CONSTRUCTION PROCESS? NO, WE'RE NOT GONNA, WE'RE NOT GONNA HOLD THEM AND SAY, WAIT, WE NEED TO NOW LOOK AT IT THROUGH THIS WAY. WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS, YOU KNOW, PROJECTS THAT START AT THE BEGINNING POINT A FROM HERE ON OUT, ONCE THE POLICY IS ADOPTED, THEN WE START, UH, WELL FROM HERE ON OUT, WE STILL HAVE TO CREATE AND MODIFY THAT CHECKLIST. WE STILL HAVE A CHECKLIST TODAY THAT, THAT COMPLIES WITH THE 2011, UH, POLICY, AND IT'S STILL RE THOSE BOND PROJECTS, INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS. SO ZORA LOOKED AT THROUGH THAT CHECKLIST TODAY. ANYTHING THAT'S CHANGED AFTERWARDS AND THEN STARTS AFTER THAT, THAT CHECKLIST IS MODIFIED, THEN THEY'LL LOOK AT IT THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE NEW CHECKLIST. SO, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA HALT PROJECTS THAT ARE ALREADY ALMOST TO THE CONSTRUCTION POINT. YES, MA'AM. SO WOULD IT BE SAFE TO SAY THAT MOST OF THE ITEMS THAT WERE ON, SAY, STREETS, SIDEWALKS, AND ALL IN THE LAST BOND, WILL NOT HAVE TO GO UNDERGO THIS? BECAUSE THE, I MEAN, THIS IS GOING TO SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGE SOMETIMES THE COST OF A PROJECT THAT HAS TO BE FACTORED IN WHAT? IN THE BOND MONEY, RIGHT? 'CAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS. AND AGAIN, WE ALREADY HAVE A CHECKLIST RELATED TO THE 2011 POLICY. NO, WE'RE NOT GONNA, WE'RE NOT GONNA MAKE 'EM START ALL OVER. NO, NOT AT ALL. . OKAY. IS THERE ANY, UM, HAVE WE MADE ALL THE EDITS THAT WERE ASKED TO BE MADE IN THE DOCUMENT? I THINK I, I CAUGHT YOURS. YOU GOT THAT ONE AND YOU GOT THE, I CAUGHT THE REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND THE, AND THE CAPITALIZATION TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE. OH, DID WE WANNA ADD ABOUT THE PRIVATE, UH, PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE? YEAH. AND ARE WE, ARE WE ACTUALLY ADDING CPS ON THE LIST OF THOSE GROUPS TO COORDINATE WITH? I THINK MOST OF US LIKE MICHAEL'S I AGREE. RECOMMENDATION. THAT'S GETTING TO BE A VERY LONG BULLET RIGHT THERE. YEAH. IT'S LIKE, ET CETERA. . I THINK MAYBE YOU OUGHT TO BREAK 'EM OUT, GIVE THEM THEIR OWN BULLET JUST AS YOU GAVE ALL THE OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS THEIR OWN BULLET. YEAH, I THINK SO. EXACTLY. I JUST THINK IT GIVES IT MORE, UM, WEIGHT. WEIGHT, YES. THANK YOU. I'M ALSO THINKING ABOUT FIBER. YEAH, FIBER AND ALL THOSE FOLKS. YEAH. YEAH. THAT, THAT'S GOOD. IT KIND OF ENCOMPASSES ALL THAT. BUT I MEAN, IF THEY'RE UNDERGROUND, THEY'VE ALREADY GOTTA HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY TO BE IN YOUR RIGHT OF WAY. AND IF THEY'RE OVERHEAD, THEY GOTTA HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH CPS TO BE ON THEIR POLES. AND NO OFFENSE, I DON'T REALLY CARE WHAT AT AND T OR GOOGLE FIBER OR OTHERS HAVE TO SAY. THEY'RE GOING IN YOUR RIGHT OF WAY AND THEY'RE GOING ON CPS POLLS. SO YOUR POLICY IS YOUR POLICY. I MEAN, CPSI THINK IS AN IMPORTANT ONE, BUT THE OTHERS MENAL CARE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE GROUP THINKS, BUT, WELL, YEAH, EXCEPT FROM THEY TEAR UP THE STREETS. BUT ALSO BECAUSE IF WE'RE LOOKING AT, THERE'S AREAS OF TOWN THAT DON'T HAVE GOOD, UM, INTERNET SERVICE, AND IT'S BECAUSE OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS MY UNDERSTANDING. AND SO SHOULD THEY NOT BE INCLUDED IN THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE IT'S GONNA IMPACT THEIR ABILITY TO, UM, PROVIDE INTERNET IN SOME OF THE AREAS OF TOWN. BUT IT, IT MAY BE COST PROHIBITIVE WHEN, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE POLICIES GO INTO EFFECT. I MEAN, THEY'RE EITHER ON A POLE OR UNDERGROUND AND THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY BEARING ON IF THERE'S A SIDEWALK OR PARKING OR HOW MANY LANES OR WHAT THE SPEED IS, WHICH IS REALLY WHAT A COMPLETE STREETS DESIGN POLICY IS FOCUSED ON. YOU KNOW, HOW WIDE ARE THE LANES, HOW MANY LANES IS THERE PARKING? IS THERE, YOU KNOW, ADJACENT BIKE, IS IT COMBINED BIKE LANE, IS IT SIDEWALKS, COMBINED USE? UH, THOSE ARE DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, WHETHER FIBER GOES IN UNDER THERE OR NOT. I DON'T THINK THOSE CRITERIA AND THIS POLICY, THEY HAVE PLACES IN THE CODE AND IN THE DESIGN STANDARDS, BUT NOT IN A COMPLETE STREETS POLICY, I DON'T THINK. [01:00:04] I MEAN, THE OTHER THING IS, IT'S HARD ENOUGH TO GET ANY OF THOSE, QUOTE OTHERS TO EVER ACTUALLY SHOW UP TO A MEETING THAT IS RELEVANT TO THEM. SO THEY'RE NOT GONNA PARTICIPATE, BARELY GET 'EM TO CPS PROCESS MEETINGS WHERE THEY HAVE A DIRECT ENGAGEMENT. SO, WELL, THEY'RE FOLLOWING CPS EVERYWHERE ANYWAY, HONESTLY. YEAH. I REITERATE THE CALLING OUT CPSI MEAN, I'M AWARE IF THEY WANT A 22 FOOT EASEMENT ON FREDERICKSBURG ROAD, AND SO IT'S PREVENTED DEVELOPMENT FROM OCCURRING ON VACANT LOTS IN THAT AREA. AND SO HOW DO YOU NEGATE THAT? HOW DO YOU WORK WITH THEM AS YOU DO A COMPLETE STREETS PROJECT IS CRITICAL BECAUSE THEY HAVE BURIED INFRASTRUCTURE. THIS ISN'T EVEN OVERHEAD INFRASTRUCTURE. YOU WOULD THINK BURIED LINES. OH, YOU CAN MOVE THE BUILDING CLOSER. OH NO, UNFORTUNATELY THERE ARE OTHER BARRIERS. SO ANYTIME WE CAN CALL 'EM OUT BY THEIR THREE LETTER ACRONYM, I THINK, AND ALSO SAWS, I THINK THAT IS, THAT'S CRITICAL. I MEAN, IT'S, WE DON'T SEE CITY PUBLIC SERVICE, BUT CALL CPS AND SAWS AS MANY TIMES AS WE CAN AS OPPOSED TO GIVING THEM THE GENERAL THING NAME. I'M GLAD YOU SAID THREE LETTERS, NOT FOUR. I DID SAY THREE LETTER. WELL, I, I, I WILL SAY CPS IS THE ONE I I SEE THE MOST BARRIERS WITH AS COMPARED TO SAWS. THANK YOU. AND THIS IS KAREN HERE ON I ADDED CITY BEFORE. ANY REFERENCE, DOES THAT SATISFY YOUR CONCERN, KARA? SO THAT IS ALL THE EDITS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SO FAR. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE FURTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR EDITS FOLKS HAVE ONE IN MIND? OKAY, SORRY, JUST TO CLARIFY, THAT SAYS, ALL NEW AND IN PROGRESS HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE NEW POLICIES. SO ALL THOSE TO THE QUESTION, COMMENT EARLIER, ALL THOSE CURRENT BOND PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF DESIGN ARE GONNA HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT THEY FOLLOW THIS POLICY. THEY'RE NOT GONNA GET ANY KIND OF GRANDFATHERING SO THAT THERE WON'T BE ANY GRANDFATHERING. I, SO THIS POLICY WILL PASS IDEALLY IN AUGUST, THE ANY KIND OF AMENDMENTS OR EXCEPTIONS THAT WON'T BE READY IN AUGUST. SO, UM, ANY PROJECTS THAT ARE IN FINAL DESIGN WON'T HAVE TO CONSIDER THESE CHANGES THAT WE'LL BE RECOMMENDING. UM, ANY PROJECTS THAT ARE JUST STARTING PROBABLY WILL ONCE IT GETS TO THAT POINT WHERE IT'S TIME TO ACTUALLY SOLIDIFY THE POLICY AND PRACTICE OF, OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR INTERNAL, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS. SO COULD WE SAY SOMETHING LIKE ALL NEW AND PROJECTS THAT HAVE END PROJECTS THAT HAVE NOT REACHED 90% DESIGN CRITERIA, SOMETHING VERY SPECIFIC, BECAUSE THIS IS IN PROGRESS. THAT'S GONNA BE A QUESTION EVERY SINGLE TIME. YEAH, I THINK IT'S EXCEPTION SIX THAT SAYS FINAL DESIGN IS NOT A PART OF IT. UH, I HAVE A QUESTION, KARA, ON THIS, ON AN ARTICLE 2 49 A, WHICH IS THE GRANDFATHERING PROVISION WHERE THEY HAVE THE FIRST PERMIT IN A SERIES OF PERMIT MEANS THAT THE PROJECT IS UNDERWAY. DOES THAT APPLY IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, KARA? IT WOULD TO PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT, BUT THIS IS BEING CLARIFIED TO BE CITY PROJECTS IS CITY PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS, NOT JUST PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS. AND SO THOSE, THE CITY DOESN'T GRANDFATHER ITSELF, BUT THEY CAN, THAT'S WHERE IT'S, OKAY, SO ITEM FIVE SAYS PROJECTS IN FINAL DESIGN OR CONSTRUCTION. AS OF THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THIS POLICY, IS THAT GOOD ENOUGH OR SHOULD WE GIVE A PERCENTAGE ON IT DOES SAY FINAL DESIGN RIGHT NOW, UH, WE HAD FINAL DESIGN, UM, SO THAT WE COULD DECIDE IN THE PROCESS OF LIKE DEVELOPING AND OUTLINING THAT POLICY AND RECOMMENDATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS, WHAT PERCENTAGE WE WANTED TO DO. IF WE WANTED TO REALLY CONFIRM. RIGHT NOW IT'S ONLY 90%, NOT 80 OR 60. THAT'S WHY RIGHT NOW IT JUST SAYS FINAL AND I THINK IT'S EXCEPTION FIVE. UM, BUT IF WE WANNA ADD A PERCENTAGE CURRENTLY, WE COULD SOMEHOW, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET OUR HANDS AROUND THAT. BECAUSE IF THAT, AND IF THE ENERGY'S BEEN SPENT TO DESIGN THIS, BUT IT'S NOT COMPLETED TO HAVE TO DO SOME KIND OF REDESIGN CAN BE PRETTY EXPENSIVE. I MEAN, ANYTHING PAST 30%, IF IT HASN'T BEEN CONSIDERED, YOU'RE A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL REDESIGN IF THOSE THINGS HAVEN'T BEEN CONSIDERED ALREADY. SO FINAL DESIGN IS, I'M ADDRESSING SOME PRETTY [01:05:01] MINOR COMMENTS. I'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH EVERYTHING AND IT'S THAT THIS SAYS OF THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THIS POLICY, OR HOW MUCH HAVE YOU GUYS BEEN COORDINATING ON CURRENT BOND PROJECTS TO WHERE WE ARE, ARE GETTING HUNG UP ON STUFF THAT MAY NOT ACTUALLY MATTER. I WAS ABOUT TO SAY THAT WE, BECAUSE PUBLIC WORKS, DAVID MACBETH'S TEAM, UH, WHO OVERSEES THE BOND, THEY'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT THESE PROJECTS THROUGH, UH, THROUGH THE COMPLETE STREETS LENS. EVEN GOING BEYOND WHAT WE, UM, CURRENTLY DO TODAY, WHICH IS WHY WE WE'RE SHOWCASING, EXCUSE ME, SOME OF THOSE, UH, PROJECTS. SO, UM, EVEN IF, EVEN IF WITH SOME OF THOSE, UH, PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN 30% OR 60%, WE'RE STILL, FOR EXAMPLE, MY TEAM IS LOOPED IN TO SAY, HEY, WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF OPPORTUNITY, WE CAN ADD A COUPLE OF THINGS RELATED TO BIKE INFRASTRUCTURE OR, UM, WE HAVE, WE HAVE SOME RIGHT OF WAY THAT WE CAN ADD, UM, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL SIDEWALK, UH, OR EXTEND IT A LITTLE BIT. WE'RE ALREADY DOING THAT TODAY, SO I, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT, WE NEED TO PUT A PERCENTAGE BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'RE ALREADY WORKING TOGETHER ON, ON APPLYING POLICIES AT AND, AND DOING THINGS THAT AREN'T WRITTEN. KAT, THIS IS BIANCA. MY ONLY CONCERN IS WHAT CLAIRE WAS SAYING IS THAT IT'LL ADD COST, RIGHT. AND A LOT OF THESE BOND PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY ORIGINALLY ESTIMATED THEM, I MEAN, AS A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY, SOME OF THESE BOND PROJECTS ARE FALLING SHORT. THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO DO THE FULL SCOPE. AND SO I WOULD HATE FOR A POLICY TO BE APPROVED THAT WOULD ESSENTIALLY TAKE MORE MONEY AWAY TO BE ABLE TO EXECUTE THAT PROJECT, BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH THE, THE TOTALITY OF THE INTENT BEHIND THIS POLICY. AND SO, I, I WOULD AGREE WITH A PERCENTAGE. IT'S AT SOME POINT BECAUSE THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF COST THAT DOES COME IN. IF THEY'RE BEYOND A CERTAIN AMOUNT, IT COULD MEAN COMPLETE NEW DRAWINGS. UH, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TAKING A RIDE OF WAY AND, YOU KNOW, UH, UTILIZING IT FOR A BIKE LANE, YOU KNOW, JUST THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IT WOULD TAKE TO MAKE THAT CHANGE ORDER. THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN. RIGHT. I MEAN, I WOULD HOPE THAT, THAT TO YOUR POINT, THAT THERE HAD BEEN PRIOR COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT AND PUBLIC WORKS TO BE ABLE TO EXECUTE THE INTENT BEHIND THIS POLICY, AND THAT WOULDN'T BE NEEDED. BUT I MEAN, REALITY IS THAT DOESN'T ALWAYS HAPPEN. AND SO, RIGHT. NO, YOU'RE ABSOLUTE'S THAT'S JUST MY ONLY CONCERN. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A PERCENTAGE THAT SOMEBODY WOULD RECOMMEND, I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF A PERCENTAGE JUST BECAUSE AT THIS POINT I, I, I WOULD HATE TO BURDEN A BOND PROJECT WITH ADDITIONAL CHANGE ORDER COSTS, WHICH IS WHAT WE DON'T DO TODAY. YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. WE DON'T DO THAT. UM, WE, WE COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER. WE'RE PART OF THE, UH, OF THE TEAMS. UM, I WILL SAY AGAIN, ONCE, ONCE WE, UH, DEFINE WHAT THOSE, YOU KNOW, THAT CLEAR AND EXCEPTION, UH, PROCESS IS, I, I CAN GUARANTEE THAT WE WILL PROBABLY HAVE THAT REFERENCE TO THE PERCENTAGE IN THAT CHECKLIST. BUT WE WANNA WORK WITH, UH, PUBLIC WORKS TO DETERMINE IS IT 70%? IS IT 90%? YEAH. WELL, IF THAT'S THE CASE, CAN NUMBER FIVE JUST BE PROJECT IS IN DESIGN OR CONSTRUCTION AND TAKE OUT FINAL? IF WE'RE GONNA SET THAT LATER, YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT. AND THE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS KIND OF PUTTING ON MY CODE HAT IN MY CODE. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT AN EXCEPTION, IT'S, UH, EXCEPTIONS AN AUTOMATIC I DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW. AND THIS RIGHTS EXCEPTIONS MAY BE GRANTED AND GIVES THIS LIST OF THINGS. I MEAN, TO ME, AN EXCEPTION IS IF I MEET THAT ITEM, I DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW IT. IT IS A CLEAR CUT, YES OR NO. I DON'T HAVE TO ASK PERMISSION. UH, VARIANCES, I ASK FOR PERMISS. CAN WE DO ADMINISTRATIVE EXCEPTIONS RIGHT NOW? YEAH, THIS IS, YEAH, SORRY, GO AHEAD. I WAS GONNA SAY, YEAH, IT CODE MENTALITY, BUT THIS SEEMS A LITTLE MORE GEARED TOWARDS LIKE A BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT WHERE YOU HAVE FINDINGS OF FACT FOR A COMMITTEE TO ESTABLISH THINGS THAT THEY CAN CONSIDER. OKAY. THE SECTION IS TITLED CLEAR AND ACCOUNTABLE EXCEPTIONS. I THINK IT'S WHAT, IT'S GONNA BE SIMILAR TO LIKE THE ADMINISTRATIVE EXCEPTION PROCESS, RIGHT? SO WE STILL, WE STILL USE THE TERM STILL A VARIANCE EXCEPTION. UM, NO, AN ADMINISTRATIVE EXCEPTION IS DIFFERENT THAN A VARIANCE. IT DOESN'T GO THROUGH A PUBLIC PROCESS. IT STILL THE PAPERWORK, BUT, UM, STAFF IS THE ONE THAT MAKES THE EXCEPTION ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS. SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE USED THE TERM BEFORE. I, I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT THOUGH, BUT IT'S CALLED AN A EVR, AN ADMINISTRATIVE EXCEPTION VARIANCE REQUEST. I MEAN, IT'S AND VARIANCE REQUEST BECAUSE WE USE THE SAME FORM, BUT THEY'RE TWO SEPARATE PROCESSES. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, KARA, THERE IT IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS. SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO GO DOWN THAT PATH, THEN THIS, YOU KNOW, TO CLEARLY IDENTIFY SOME OF THOSE [01:10:01] POTENTIAL, UH, GUIDELINES FOR THAT ADMINISTRATIVE EXCEPTION. BECAUSE WHAT IT IS CLEAR IN THE CODE IS WHEN THERE IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE EXCEPTION PROCESS AND WHEN IT NEEDS TO GO TO EITHER PLANNING, UH, COMMISSION OR BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT. AND I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT AS WE ARE DEVELOPING WHAT THAT EXCEPTION PROCESS LOOK LIKE, WE, WE CAN, WE CAN DEFINE, UM, WHAT'S ADMINISTRATIVE LIKE IMMEDIATELY. THIS, THIS, THIS, YOU CHECK THIS L YOU CHECK THIS OFF, YOU, YOU ARE GOOD TO GO. AND THEN THERE'S SOME THAT WILL REQUIRE THAT, UH, FURTHER REVIEW. UM, AND UH, AND NOTICE, BUT IT'S NOT A HEARING, IT'S NOT A PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS. IT, SO THAT PROCESS IS GONNA BE DEFINED DURING, I GUESS YOUR PHASE TWO, YOUR PHASE TWO, RIGHT? YES. OKAY. SO THIS IS JUST ESTABLISHING A PROCESS WHICH WILL BE DEFINED, CORRECT. A REQUIREMENT FOR IT. YES. A REQUIREMENT FOR IT. THAT'S A GOOD WORD. YOU MAY CHANGE THE TITLE OF THAT SECTION. OR IS IT AS SIMPLE AS JUST SAYING, INSTEAD OF MAY SAYING WILL OR SHALL , BUT I THINK WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY, MICHAEL, IS YEAH, YOU MIGHT GET IT IF YOU'RE ONE OF THESE THINGS, BET YOU MIGHT NOT. WE'RE GONNA DECIDE. SO IT REALLY IS A MAY. YEAH, WELL THEN I WOULD VOTE FOR SHELL . THE ONLY THEY DON'T GO THROUGH, UH, APPROVAL PROCESS. THAT'S TRUE. LIKE NUMBER ONE. I MEAN, AGAIN, YOU'RE, YOU'RE SUBMITTING THE PAPERWORK AND WE NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED AND DETERMINED. WOULD THE WORDING MAYBE LIKE POSSIBLE WAIVERS TO CERTAIN COMPONENTS, WOULD THAT BE BETTER SUITED FOR EXEMPTIONS TO, OH, SO CHANGING THE TITLE TO CLEAR AND ACCOUNTABLE WAIVERS. AGAIN, TO ME A WAIVER IS I APPLY AND I HAVE TO BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED. CAN YOU CHECK THE EXCEPTION LANGUAGE FROM SMART GROWTH AMERICA'S RECOMMENDATION? OH, THAT'S TRUE. THAT THAT'S WHERE IT ORIGINALLY, OKAY, SO WE'RE TAKING A NATIONAL DOCUMENT AND TRYING TO, TRYING TO FORCE MOLDED THAT LANGUAGE FIT AND MOLDED INTO OUR MOLD. AGAIN, I KNOW I'M PUTTING ON CODE HAT, BUT NONE OF THIS MATTERS UNTIL WE GET TO CODE AND WE'RE GONNA GET TO CODE AND GO, OH, THAT'S NOT AN EXCEPTION. OR OH WAIT, THAT IS AN EXCEPTION. OH, WAIT, WHAT IS THIS? YEAH, I THINK MAYBE, SO SHOULD IT JUST SAY EXCEPTION, EXCEPTION PROCESS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? BECAUSE I THINK, I THINK SOME OF THE CONFUSION IS WITH CLEAR AND ACCOUNTABLE COULD MEAN DIFFERENT THINGS TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE. SO I MEAN CERTAINLY THERE'S A PROCESS AND CERTAINLY THE CITY WANTS TO BE IN A POSITION TO REVIEW AND MAKE A DECISION. I THINK YOU JUST CHANGE IT TO EXCEPTION. THERE WE GO. OR EXCEPTION PROCESS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YEAH. OKAY. I LIKE THAT IT'S THE NORMAL TITLE USED IN THE REST OF THE UDC WHEN IT COMES TO, EXCEPT JUST SAYS EXCEPTION. OKAY. I WOULD ACTUALLY JUST SAY EXCEPTIONS THAT DOESN'T IN DESCRIBE THE PROCESS. OH, OKAY. WE CAN CHANGE IT INSTEAD OF HAVING THE WORD PROCESS. JUST PUT EXCEPTIONS. YOU'RE STICKING WITH ME, MICHAEL . OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS OR ANY OTHER SECTION? UM, CHAIRMAN, UH, I DO HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. KAT. UH, I UNDERSTAND THE STANDING COMMITTEE THING AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PHASE ONE VERSUS PHASE TWO. MM-HMM. , I'M JUST INTERESTED SINCE THERE IS NOT A PROCESS OR IDENTIFIED STAKEHOLDERS IN THE STANDING COMMITTEE, WHETHER THAT COMES BACK HERE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OR THE STRUCTURE OF HOW THAT COMMITTEE IS ORGANIZED. I WOULD DEFINITELY COME BACK WITH WHEN WE'RE REVIEWING UDC AMENDMENTS, I WOULD DEFINITELY COME BACK FOR THAT. THAT'S A THREE LETTER WORD TOO. YES. IT SHOULD BE A FOUR LETTER WORD. SHOULD, SORRY, . BIANCA, I WAS JUST GONNA ASK IF YOU COULD JUST SCROLL THROUGH THE DOCUMENT FOR ALL THE EDITS, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND. THANK YOU. REGISTER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS. ARE YOU GONNA SPLIT THAT? WE WANTED THAT SPLIT, THAT BULLET. OH YEAH. YOU [01:15:01] WANT THAT ONE SPLIT TOO? NOT THAT ONE. THE BIG BULLETS, THAT BULLET, YOU KNOW, ET CETERA. CAN WE SPLIT IT? ACTUALLY, YES. I THINK IT WAS THE LAST BULLET, RIGHT? YEAH, THE LAST ONE. BECAUSE AS YOU READ IT, IT CAN LOOK LIKE, OH, THAT WHOLE GROUP GETS ONE PERSON VERSUS RIGHT. I, I CAN DO INDIVIDUAL REPRESENTATION, I CAN DO REPRESENTATIVES FROM REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS. WE'RE SAYING SPLIT THAT WHOLE BULLET. IT'S GOT LIKE SIX OR EIGHT DIFFERENT TYPE OF ORGANIZATIONS IN ONE BULLET, WHEREAS I THINK IT WAS BIANCA OR SOMEBODY SAID EARLIER, YOU LIST ALL THESE DEPARTMENTS AND THEY GET THEIR OWN LIKE, HEY, I'M SPECIAL AND THEN EVERYBODY ELSE IS IN ONE. IT NEEDS TO BE BALANCED. AND I THINK IN BALANCING IT, YOU DO SO BY BREAKING IT UP WITH BULLET POINTS AND GIVE IT RECOGNITION TO EACH ONE OF THOSE GROUPS. OKAY. WE CAN DO THAT. REGISTER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND ORGANIZATIONS. ACADEMIC INSTITUTIONS WILL BE ITS OWN BULLET. UH, PUBLIC ENTITIES, UM, ADVOCACY GROUPS AND LOCAL AND NATIONAL PLANNING AND TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZATIONS. WE'LL JUST DO, WE'LL LIST 'EM OUT INDIVIDUALLY. THANK YOU. NO PROBLEM. AND I'LL, I'LL START WITH REPRESENTATIVES FROM , THEN WE'LL CAPITALIZE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE AND WE'LL GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE DOCUMENT TO MAKE SURE WE, WE REFERENCE THAT THAT WAS THE, UH, AMENDMENT THAT GEORGE MADE, WHICH WOULD FOLLOW THE, THE, UH, FIRST SENTENCE IN THAT LAST PARAGRAPH, CHANGING THE TITLE AND THEN ADDING CITY BEFORE ANY REFERENCE TO PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS AND REMOVING FINAL. AND NUMBER FIVE, THAT WAS IT, RIGHT? WHERE DID YOU ADD ESSAY SPEAKUP UNDER PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. OH, THE ESSAY. SPEAKUP REFERENCE. WHERE WAS THAT? WHERE DID WE I I DON'T THINK I CAUGHT THAT ONE. I THINK IT'S IN ONE OF THE TABLES. IS IT THE PERFORMANCE MEASURE ENGAGING THE PUBLIC THERE? IT'S PAGE 14 RIGHT AT THE BOTTOM. YES. AT IN THAT TABLE, THAT BLUE TABLE. THANK YOU MS. BE WHEN DIDN'T YOU HAVE ANOTHER ADDITION YOU WANTED? DIDN'T YOU SAY UTILIZING, JUST TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BROADER. SO IT'S NOT JUST THAT SPECIFIC COMMUNICATION TOOL SO THAT IT ALLOWS FOR FUTURE COMMUNICATION TOOLS. OTHER MM-HMM. . SO MAYBE JUST SAY SA SPEAK UP AND OTHER PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT TOOLS. YES. YES. THANK YOU. KEYBOARD. SO AFTER ESSAY SPEAK, PUT IN OTHER PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT TOOLS. I KNOW, RIGHT? THAT KEYBOARD. THAT'S PERFECT. OKAY. OKAY. THAT APPEARS TO BE ALL THE EDITS WE MADE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, MA'AM. SO AS I UNDERSTAND, NONE OF THIS IS GOING TO GO INTO EFFECT UNTIL THE UDC PROCESS, THE NEXT ROUND OF UTC. NO. 'CAUSE WE, OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT THE CITY IS ALREADY ON ITS OWN PROJECTS USING THE COMPLETE STREETS FRAMEWORK, SO THE, THE PHASE TWO WILL INCLUDE LOOKING AT OUR CURRENT CHECKLIST, UM, AND DEVELOPING THAT EXCEPTION PROCESS, AND THEN WE'LL IMPLEMENT THAT AS SOON AS THAT'S DONE. AGAIN, THOSE ARE RELATED TO CITY PROJECTS. UM, FOR PRIVATE DEVELOPER COMPLIANCE, YOU'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE UDC AMENDMENT CYCLE. IF THERE'S ANY AMENDMENTS TO THE UDC, THEN IT APPLIES TO, UH, PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT'LL HAVE TO BE ON THE REGULAR UDC YES. CYCLE. IT CAN'T BE IMPLEMENTED EARLIER THAN THAT BY SAY A COUNCIL MEMBER ASKING, OKAY, WELL BY SIX SIGNATURE MEMO, YOU COULD, YES, THERE'S A CCR PROCESS, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT THREE LETTER WORD. SO, BUT NO, THE INTENT IS TO PREPARE THEM IN PREPARATION FOR THE SUBMITTAL. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? IF NOT, WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. ROB HANLEY. I MOVE APPROVAL WITH THE AMENDMENTS AS UH, INDICATED. SECOND. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION BY ROBERT HANLEY, AND I DON'T KNOW WHO THE SECOND WAS. I HEARD BIANCA. BIANCA SECOND BY BIANCA. WILL STAFF DO A ROLL CALL? VOTE PLEASE. WELL, LET'S JUST DO, UH, AYE EVERYBODY IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT. MOTION CARRIES. YAY. THANK YOU. OH, ALL RIGHT. [01:20:01] UH, OLD BUSINESS [Old Business  ] WILL HAVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE MARCH 1ST, 2024 MEETING. ANY EDITS, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ON THE MINUTES OR A MOTION? I MOVE TO ACCEPT THE, UH, MINUTES FOR THE MARCH 1ST, 2024, UH, MEETING AS WRITTEN. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? AND WE HAVE A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. STAFF. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? JUST ONE REAL QUICK ANNOUNCEMENT. UH, WE SHARED WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION LAST WEEK THAT, UH, WE HAVE OPENED THE APPLICATION WINDOW FOR MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UH, WHO ARE EXPIRED EITHER TO REAPPLY OR OF COURSE WE'VE GONE OUT TO THE PUBLIC WITH REQUESTS FOR APPLICATIONS AS WELL. UM, ANY MEMBER THAT IS EXPIRING, UH, THEY RECEIVED AN EMAIL DIRECTLY FROM STAFF WITH THE LINK TO SUBMIT THE PAPERWORK. IF THEY'RE INTERESTED IN REAPPLYING, UH, THAT WINDOW WILL REMAIN OPEN THROUGH JUNE 10TH, SO STILL HAVE A COUPLE OF WEEKS TO GET THOSE IN. UM, AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT PROCESS OR IF YOU WANNA SEE WHO'S EXPIRING, JUST LET US KNOW. WE'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO GET YOU THE INFORMATION, BUT JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT ANNOUNCEMENT. THANK YOU, LOGAN? YES. CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION BEFORE, WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT CYCLES AND REVIEWING UDC AMENDMENTS IN CYCLE. I KNOW THERE'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT UDC AMENDMENT IN PROCESS NOW WITH THE TOYOTA BUFFER INDUSTRIAL OVERLAY. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THIS GROUP IS GOING TO REVIEW? UM, AS I UNDERSTAND, PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS TAKING ON THAT PROCESS, UM, THAT IS A, UM, ZONING ITEM THAT THEY'RE ADDING TO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE. UM, AT THIS POINT, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANY DISCUSSION TO BRING THAT AMENDMENT HERE. UM, HOWEVER, THEY HAVE BRIEFED, UH, ZONING COMMISSION, UM, AND THEY ALSO HAVE BRIEFED, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION ON THE, UH, PLAN OR THE PLAN AMENDMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE TEXAS A AND M PROPERTY. BUT THE ACTUAL ZONING ACTION HAS GONE TO ZONING COMMISSION. SO HOW, IF IT'S IN THE UDC, DOES IT NOT COME TO THIS COMMITTEE? WE CAN DEFINITELY HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH PLANNING DEPARTMENT. UH, THERE IS HAS BEEN DISCUSSION, UM, WITH THEM ON THAT. UM, AND WE'LL HAVE TO COORDINATE WITH BRIDGET TO MAKE THAT, UM, TO COMMUNICATE THAT BACK TO PAC. THANK YOU. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE REVIEW EVERYTHING ELSE. YES, MA'AM. SO, UH, CHAIRMAN, I, MELISSA, THE LAST TIME WE DID THE UDC AMENDMENTS, WE UH, DID IT IN SPRING OF 22 BECAUSE OF PANDEMIC COVID AND STUFF LIKE THIS, AND IT'S AN EVERY FIVE YEAR CYCLE. SO ARE WE GOING TO GET BACK ON SCHEDULE AND DO IT IN FOUR YEARS OR ARE WE GONNA WAIT TO FIVE YEARS AT LEAST? AT THIS POINT? WE ARE PLANNING ON GOING AT 2027. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. ANYTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT. IT IS 10 25 AND WE'RE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.