* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:04] ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. IF WE COULD BEGIN WITH OUR SPANISH TRANSLATION SERVICES STATEMENT PLEASE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. MY NAME IS ROB SIPES AND I AM THE CHAIR OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT SEVEN ZONING COMMISSIONER, UH, HEREBY CALL THIS REGULARLY NOTICED MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION INTO SESSION. THE TIME IS 1 0 7. I'D LIKE TO DO A ROLL CALL BY ALLOWING THE ZONING COMMISSIONERS TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, STARTING WITH THE COMMISSIONER ON MY FAR LEFT. GOOD AFTERNOON. UH, MARCO BARROS, REPRESENTING DISTRICT NINE, JOHN BUSTAMANTE, DISTRICT FIVE, OSVALDO ORTIZ, DISTRICT EIGHT. DANIEL KELLUM, DISTRICT ONE JOHN WITT, DISTRICT 10. JANELLE CHASE MERRILL GEORGE OSA, DISTRICT THREE. EDDIE REYES, DISTRICT FOUR. KEN , DISTRICT SIX STAFF IS A QUORUM PRESENT. A QUORUM IS PRESENT. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. WOULD EVERYONE PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE I, THE LEADERS FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL THE THANK YOU. PRIOR TO COMMENCING OUR HEARING, I WOULD LIKE OUR STAFF TO REVIEW THE MEETING FORMAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE STAFF. BEFORE I BEGIN, PLEASE TURN YOUR PHONES ON VIBRATE OR TURN THEM OFF. THE ZONING COMMISSION IS AN 11 MEMBER BODY APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ZONING CASES. UPON RECEIVING A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION, YOU HAVE UP TO SIX MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO FORWARD YOUR CASE TO CITY COUNCIL. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PROCEDURE, PLEASE CONTACT YOUR CASE MANAGER. STAFF WILL BEGIN EACH CASE WITH A SHORT PRESENTATION OF THE REQUEST. PART OF THE PRESENTATION INCLUDES A MAP THAT SHOWS THE AREA TO BE CONSIDERED FOR REZONING AND PROPERTY WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT. PROPERTY CHECK MARKS INDICATE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND AN X INDICATES THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN OPPOSITION. FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION AND ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION, THE APPLICANT WILL PRESENT THEIR REQUEST. FOR THOSE THAT HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE PROPOSED REZONING, YOU WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THAT YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. THOSE IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO MINUTES PER SPEAKER AND YOU ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO UTILIZE THE MAXIMUM TIME LIMITATION. YOU WILL BE INFORMED THAT THE TWO MINUTES ARE UP. FOR THOSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEIR TIME TO A SPEAKER, THAT SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO PEOPLE GIVING THEIR TIME FOR A TOTAL OF SIX MINUTES. THOSE GIVING UP THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AND SIGNED IN TO SPEAK AND MUST ANNOUNCE WHEN THAT SPEAKER IS GOING UP TO THE PODIUM THAT THEY ARE YIELDING THEIR TIME. THE APPLICANT THEN WILL BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL LIMITED TO ONE SPEAKER WITH A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT ALONG WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSION QUESTIONS. THANK YOU CHAIR. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. [Zoning Items  ] IF WE COULD GO OVER OUR, ANY WITHDRAWN OR POSTPONED ITEMS PLEASE? ITEMS, UM, THAT WILL NOT BE HEARD TODAY THAT ARE POSTPONED ITEMS. NUMBER ONE, GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 14,000 BLOCK OF NACODOCHES ROAD AND ITEM NUMBER 15 LOCATED AT 4 1 7 PROBAND STREET. ALRIGHT LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, UM, IF YOU ARE HERE FOR THOSE PROPERTIES AT UM, ON AT OSIS ROAD OR ON PRO BRANCH STREET, YOU ARE FREE TO LEAVE AND ENJOY THE HUMID DAY AS THOSE ITEMS WILL NOT BE HEARD TODAY AND YOU WILL BE RE NOTIFIED WITH A NEW NOTICE IF AND WHEN, UH, FUTURE ACTION OCCURS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UH, STAFF, IF WE COULD PLEASE GO OVER THE LIST OF ITEMS ON THE COMBINED AGENDA. ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE ITEMS NUMBER 7 9 11, 12, 13, 17, AND 18. ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, ANY OF THESE ITEMS YOU WISH TO PULL TO INDIVIDUAL? LOOKING LEFT, SEEING NONE, LOOKING RIGHT, SEEING NONE. ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD [00:05:01] READ THOSE ITEMS INTO THE RECORD PLEASE. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM IDZ WITH USES PERMITTED IN O2 HIGH RISE OFFICE DISTRICT C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND A BAR TAVERN WITHOUT, WITH OR WITHOUT COVER CHARGE THREE OR MORE DAYS PER WEEK TO IDZ TWO WITH USES PERMITTED IN C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, A HOTEL OVER 35 FEET BAR TAVERN WITH OR WITHOUT COVER CHARGE THREE OR MORE DAYS PER WEEK AND CLUB PRIVATE WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN LOCATED AT 100 ALER STREET. UH, 18 NOTICES WERE SENT, ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED WEST FORT ALLIANCE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR WITH CONDITIONS AND THE APPLICANT DID SUBMIT AN AMENDED SITE PLAN THAT IS FOR REVIEW. ITEM NUMBER NINE IS A REQUEST IN CHANGE IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM NP 10, R FOUR C3 R AND I ONE TO R FOUR WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. LOCATED AT 93 71 INTERSTATE 35 SOUTH 20 NOTICES WERE SENT. FIVE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD AS ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET. ITEM NUMBER 11 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM I ONE TO C3 NA WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. LOCATED AT 11,900 INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 10 WEST NINE NOTICES WERE SENT. ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED NO RESPONSE FROM THE RIOT COMMONS COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION. ITEM NUMBER 12 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C ONE TO C TWO WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. LOCATED AT 7,300 BLANCO ROAD, 81 NOTICES WERE SENT TO RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED GREATER HARMONY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION DOES NOT OPPOSE. ITEM NUMBER 13, A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FOUR TO R FOUR CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR PROFESSIONAL OFFICE WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. LOCATED AT 1706 MENTOS STREET, 28 NOTICES WERE SENT. ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM THE LOS ANGELES HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR THE SAN ANTONIO TEXAS DISTRICT ONE RESIDENCE ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER 14 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C3 TO C3 CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR PARKING AND OR STORAGE LONG TERM GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 15, I'M SORRY, WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN, REMAIN THE SAME, GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 15,000 BLOCK OF VANCE JACKSON ROAD. 14 NOTICES WERE SENT. ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED. AND THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET. ITEM NUMBER 17 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FOUR TO R FOUR HL WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. LOCATED AT 1 3 9 PAOLO BLANCO STREET. 37 NOTICES WERE SENT. ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR. ZERO OPPOSED. AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM THE ROOSEVELT PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. AND OUR LAST ITEM, ITEM NUMBER 18. A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO C TWO, UM, WITH OLIVER LAY'S TO, TO REMAIN THE SAME, LOCATED AT 79 0 2 SOUTH FLORE STREET. 12 NOTICES WERE SENT, ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR. ZERO OPPOSED. AND THERE'S NO RESPONSE FROM THE HARLANDALE, MCCULLUM OR HARLANDALE ACRES NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THE APPLICANT REQUESTS TO AMEND UM, TO ADD THE NA FOR NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THESE ITEMS? UM, WE DO HAVE, UH, MR. MIGUEL, UM, SATE, BUT IT IS ON CONSENT. SO DID YOU STILL WANNA SPEAK, SIR? QUESTION. OKAY, THANK YOU. NO, THAT IS IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. ALRIGHT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THESE ITEMS. MR. CHAIR. I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO ACCEPT ITEMS NUMBER SEVEN AS AMENDED NUMBER NINE. NUMBER 11, NUMBER 12, NUMBER 13, NUMBER 14, NUMBER 17 AND NUMBER 18 HAS AMENDED. I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION, MR. CHAIR. ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION FOR TO APPROVE ITEMS SEVEN AS AMENDED. 9 11, 12, 13, 14, 17, AND 18 AS AMENDED MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER HUEY WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARTOS. ANY DISCUSSION? LOOKING LEFT. SEEING NONE. LOOKING RIGHT, SEEING NONE. ALL A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE. MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL. COMMISSIONER [00:10:01] HUEY AYE. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES. COMMISSIONER NOOSA? YES. COMMISSIONER REYES? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITSETT? YES. COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES. CHAIR SIPES? YES. ITEMS PASSED. SEVEN AS AMENDED AND 18 AS AMENDED. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU ARE HERE FOR ANY OF THOSE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, THOSE ITEMS WILL NOW BE PROCEEDING ON TO CITY COUNCIL, SO YOU ARE ALSO FREE TO ENJOY THE REST OF THIS DAY. THANK YOU. WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO OUR, UH, CONTINUANCE AGENDA FOR CONSIDERATIONS OF ITEMS FOR CONTINUANCES. UM, TWO ITEMS REQUESTING CONTINUANCE FOR TWO WEEKS TO THE SIX 18 MEETING. WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER TWO LOCATED AT 4 3 3 7 4 3 4 3 AND 4 3 4 7 COMMERCIAL AVENUE AND ITEM NUMBER 10 LOCATED AT 10 10 AND 10 14 EAST EUCLID AVENUE. ALRIGHT, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THOSE ITEMS? WE DO NOT. ALRIGHT. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE CONTINUANCES TO, FOR TWO WEEKS, MR. CHAIR. YES. I MOVE TO CONTINUE ITEMS NUMBER TWO AND 10 TO THE, UH, 18TH JUNE, 2024 HEARING. ALRIGHT, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION TO, UH, CONTINUE ITEMS TWO AND 10 TO THE JUNE 18TH MEETING. UH, MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HUEY WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ. UM, ANY DISCUSSION? LOOKING LEFT. SEEING NONE. LOOKING RIGHT. SEEING NONE. ALRIGHT. IF WE COULD HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER HUEY AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES. COMMISSIONER OSA? YES. COMMISSIONER REYES? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. AYE. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER WIT? YES. COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES. CHAIR SIPES? YES. ITEMS PASS FOR CONTINUANCE UNTIL JUNE 18TH? YES. ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD SKIP AHEAD REALLY QUICK AND, UM, WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA THE POSSIBILITY TO CANCEL THE JULY 2ND MEETING, SO WE PROBABLY OUGHT TO DECIDE THAT BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT THE CONTINUANCE TO JULY 2ND. SO I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION TO EITHER CANCEL THE, I I GUESS MAKE A MOTION TO CANCEL THE JULY 2ND MEETING. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CANCEL. IT'S MY WIFE'S BIRTHDAY TOO, SO DOUBLE DOUBLE REASONS AND I'LL SECOND THAT. ALRIGHT. THERE'S A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WHITSETT TO CANCEL THE JULY 2ND MEETING WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARTOS, UH, DISCUSSION. NO ONE WANTS TO LOOKING RIGHT. SEEING NONE EITHER. IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME EITHER WAY. UM, THE ONLY CAVEAT IS, IS JUST TO MAKE SURE YOU RE YOU KNOW THAT THE NEXT MEETING WILL PROBABLY HAVE A MORE THAN TYPICAL NUMBER OF ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. SO, BUT THAT MID JULY MEETING WE DON'T HAVE MUCH SCHEDULED. RIGHT. WE'RE GONNA KNOCK ON WOOD AND IF WE DO, WE'LL, WE'LL WE'LL HAVE DINNER FOR Y'ALL. RIGHT. OKAY. I THINK WE HAVE A, I THINK WE DO HAVE, WE HAVE A TIME, A LARGE CASE ON THAT, ON THAT ONE, BUT THAT'S FINE. WE'RE JUST FILLING UP THE TIME. ALRIGHT. UM, A MOTION IS TO CANCEL THE JULY 2ND MEETING. LET'S SEE, MOTION WAS BY COMMISSIONER WITT WITH THE SECOND, WHO WAS IT? YOU COMMISSIONER BOTTLE SMITH THE SECOND IT WAS COMMISSIONER BARROWS. YES. THANK YOU. I GOT OFF TRACK. UH, ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER BARROS. I'M SORRY. COMMISSIONER SUP? YES. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES. COMMISSIONER NOOSA AYE. COMMISSIONER REYES? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. AYE. COMMISSIONER HUI AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES. CHAIR SIPES? YES. ITEM PASSES. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UH, WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO THE CONTINUANCE HEARING TO, I'M ASSUMING THIS WOULD MOVE TO THE JULY 16TH MEETING? THAT IS CORRECT. SO WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER FOUR LOCATED AT 5 5 1 8 IVANHOE STREET AND THEY'RE REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE HEARING TO, UM, SEVEN 16 THAN . GOTCHA. ALRIGHT. IS THERE, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE AN CONTINUANCE, MR. CHAIR? YES. [00:15:01] I'D LIKE TO, UH, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER FOUR TO CONTINUE TO THE 16TH JULY HEARING. ALRIGHT, SECOND, SECOND, MR. CHAIR. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. AND, UH, JUST TO CONFIRM, UH, ITEM EIGHT IS ON INDIVIDUAL, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, UH, MOTION. THERE IS A MOTION TO, UH, CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER FOUR TO THE, UH, JULY 16TH MEETING. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HUEY WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARTOS. IS, UH, DISCUSSION SEEING NONE? UH, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER HUEY AYE. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER LUM? YES. COMMISSIONER OSA? YES. COMMISSIONER REYES? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER TSET? YES. COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES. CHAIR SIPES? YES. ITEM PASSES THIS FOR CONTINU UNTIL JULY 16TH. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UH, WE ARE GONNA SORT OF GO OUT OF ORDER AND TAKE ITEM NUMBER SIX FIRST SINCE, UM, IT HAS A SAS REPORT AND USUALLY WE DO SAS REPORTS FIRST. SO IF WE COULD HAVE STAFF'S PRESENTATION FOR ITEM SIX. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS SAMANTHA BEEZ, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER SIX IS LOCATED AT 1 8 2 0 6 BLANCO ROAD GOING FROM C3 GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO C3 S GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR AN ANIMAL CLINIC WITHIN THE EDWARDS RECHARGE ZONE WITH ALL OVERLY STAYING THE SAME. THERE WERE 12 NOTICES SENT OUT. ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED NO RESPONSE FROM SONARA PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION AND NO RESPONSE OUTSIDE 200 FEET. THOUGH THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA, IT DOES NOT ALIGN WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION WITHIN THE NORTH SECTOR. PLAN. SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE C3, GENERAL COMMERCIAL C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND R SIX PUD SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS. THE CURRENT C3 GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPOSED C3 S GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR ANIMAL CLINIC IS NOT APPROPRIATE THOUGH THE PROPERTY IS SITUATED WITHIN AN ESTABLISHED COMM COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR. C3 EXCEEDS THE INTEN INTENSITY SUGGESTED FOR THE AREA WITHIN THE NORTH SECTOR PLAN. THE REQUEST THE REQUESTED CAN BE ACCOMMODATED WITH THE ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF C TWO S COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH A SPECIFIC USE, USE AUTHORIZATION FOR AN ANIMAL CLINIC WITHIN THE EDWARDS RECHARGE ZONE. THE C TWO BASED ZONING ALIGNS WITH THE CURRENT LAND USE DESIGNATION AND WOULD NOT REQUIRE A PLAN AMENDMENT. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL WITH AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF C TWO S COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR ANIMAL CLINIC WITHIN THE EDWARD EDWARDS RECHARGE ZONE. PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION IS PENDING THE JUNE 12TH, 2024 HEARING. SAS IS PRESENT TO GIVE THEIR PRESENTATION AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. IF WE COULD HAVE SAS REPORT PLEASE. MIKE. MIKE ESCALANTE FALLS OUT FOR PROTECTION AND EVALUATION SECTION. WE REVIEWED THE, THIS ZONING APPLICATION LOCATED AT 18 2 0 6 BLANCO ROAD, ALLOWING FOR A VETERINARY ANIMAL CLINIC. THE SITE IS AN EXISTING 2,922 SQUARE FOOT OFFICE SUITE. NO SENSITIVE GEOLOGIC FEATURES NOR FLOODPLAIN ARE LOCATED ON SITE. NO NEW, NO NEW CONSTRUCTION BEING PROPOSED. THEREFORE THE EXISTING 2,922 SQUARE FOOT IMPERVIOUS COVER WILL NOT BE INCREASED ON SITE. SAS RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH ALL ENVIRONMENTAL RECOMMENDATIONS WITHIN THE SAS REPORT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. IF WE CAN HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE. HELLO, BRIANNA MORETTI, A REP, LITTLE ARCHITECTURE DESIGN CONSULTANT REPRESENTING PET FOLK. ALL RIGHT. IF YOU'D JUST GIVE US A BRIEF PRESENTATION IF YOU'D WANT. I BELIEVE YOU HAD A PRESENTATION, CORRECT? YES. . YEAH, SORRY, . SO WE ARE CURRENTLY IN A C3 ZONE. UM, THE ENTIRE BUILDING IS WITHIN A CURRENT C3 ZONE. OUR CLIENT'S USE, UM, PET FOLK IS FOR A VETERINARY CLINIC AND SO [00:20:01] THEREFORE WE'RE, UM, PROPOSING A C3 S, UM, WITH A SPECIALTY USE. AND THIS IS JUST A SITE PLAN OF THE OVERALL, UM, PET FOLK FOR, UH, FOCUSES ON PET CARE, UM, ON A MODEL BASED ON ORDER, HARMONY, WARMTH, CLEANLINESS, FUNCTIONALITY, TRANSPARENCY. UM, WE OFFER A COMFORTABLE, UM, PET EXPERIENCE FOR BOTH THE PET AND THE OWNER CREATING A CALM AND TRANQUIL SPACE FOR PEOPLE AND THEIR PETS. AND THIS IS JUST A OVERALL, UM, LAYOUT OF WHAT OUR TYPICAL CENTERS LOOK LIKE. UM, THE DESIGN IS TO BE COZY, UM, MAKE CUSTOMERS AND THEIR PETS FEEL LOVED AND AT EASE. UM, AN OPEN SPACE CONCEPT DESIGN, UM, TO BE A PEACEFUL PET CA CENTER. OUR HOURS OF OPERATION ARE EIGHT TO FIVE, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, EIGHT TO SIX, SATURDAY AND SUNDAY. UH, WE OPERATE SEVEN DAYS A WEEK AND THERE WOULD NOT BE AN INSTANCE WHERE ALL STAFF WOULD BE PRESENT ON A SINGLE OPERATING DAY. THERE IS TYPICALLY TWO DOCTORS AND FIVE SUPPORT STAFFS ON THE PRESENT PRE UH, PREMISES AT ALL TIMES. UH, APPOINTMENTS ARE TYPICALLY SCHEDULED FOR 30 MINUTE INCREMENTS. UH, IT'S NOT TYPICAL FOR OUR CUSTOMERS TO PARK FOR A PERIOD LONGER THAN IMMEDIATELY BEFORE OR AFTER THEIR APPOINTMENT. UM, WE ARE ONLY APPOINTMENT ONLY, SO THERE IS NO WALK-IN. UM, IT'S NOT AN EMERGENCY, UM, CLINIC AND THERE IS NO BOARDING OR OVERNIGHT. WE HAVE TWO SETS OF KENNELS WITHIN OUR AREA. ONE IN THE, UM, TREATMENT CENTER AND ONE IN THE BACK OF HOUSE. UH, WE DO NOT, AGAIN, WE DO NOT BOARD OVERNIGHT. UM, WE DO NOT PROVIDE EMERGENCY SERVICES. UM, THESE KENNELS ARE SPECIFICALLY A RECOVERY, RECOVERY AREA, UM, FOR PETS WAKING UP FROM ANESTHESIA POST OR UH, DENTAL OR SURGICAL PROCEDURES. UM, THESE KENNELS ARE, UM, PADDED WITH A 3M SOUND DEADENING PAD, UM, WHICH IS ADDED AROUND THE STAINLESS STEEL KENNELS. UM, THESE PADS SUPPRESS VIBRATIONS, OTHER DISTRACTING NOISE. UM, SOUND DING PANELS ARE, UM, CONFORMABLE ADHESIVE SHEETS THAT WILL, UM, CONFORM AROUND THE KENNELS. UM, OUR BACK OF HOUSE IS KENNELS ARE SPECIFICALLY FOR, UM, OH, CAN YOU GO BACK? UH, OUR BACK OF HOUSE KENNELS ARE SPECIFICALLY USED FOR PETS THAT ARE, UM, MORE ANXIOUS IN NOT WANTING TO BE IN, UM, OPEN AREAS WITH OTHER PETS. UH, WE DO NOT PROVIDE KENNEL RUNS OR, UM, OUTDOOR AREAS. UH, WITHIN OUR EXAM ROOMS. WE USE QUIET ROCK GYPSUM, A VERSATILE HIGH PERFORMANCE SOUND, DAMP DAMPENING GYPSUM PANEL THAT DELIVERS SUPERB NOISE REDUCTION AND IMPACT RESISTANCE AS WELL AS, UH, ROCK WOLF FIRE SOUNDPROOFING INSULATION. THIS, UM, INSULATION IS TO KEEP NOISE FROM COMING INTO THE CLINIC AS WELL AS LEAVING THE CLINIC. UH, PET FOLK IS VERY MINDFUL OF THE NEIGHBOR, THE NEIGHBORS, THE COMMUNITY SURROUNDING IT AND WE DO NOT WANT ANY NOISE, UM, PENETRATING OUTWARD OR COMING INWARD TO, UM, AFFECT THE ANIMALS. AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE. UM, AGAIN, AS MENTIONED, UM, OUR SPECIFIC USE DOES FALL WITHIN THE C TWO S CATEGORY. UM, HOWEVER, OUR LANDLORD HAS ASKED US TO APPLY FOR THE C3 S, UM, IN ORDER TO NOT LIMIT HIS, UM, THEIR, UH, USAGE IN THE FUTURE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UM, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? I JUST WANNA CONFIRM REAL QUICK, MS. VICTORIA HINOJOSA, WHAT ITEM DID YOU SIGN UP FOR? MS NUMBER FIVE. NUMBER FIVE. OKAY. IT JUST DIDN'T HAVE THE NUMBER NEXT TO IT. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE NO PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM. ALRIGHT, GREAT. UH, THIS IS A DISTRICT NINE CASE, SO TO YOU COMMISSIONER BOTTO FOR QUESTIONS? YEAH, I, UH, THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. [00:25:01] I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I, UM, I'LL ASK ANY COMMISSIONERS FOR ANY COMMENTS, BUT IN TALKING TO THE CITY COUNCIL OFFICE, UH, WE HAVE NO CONCERNS ABOUT THIS WITH THE ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATIONS. SO, UM, AND THE SOURCE REPORTS, SO I'LL WAIT AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS AND THEN I'LL MAKE UM, A MOTION AFTER THAT. ALRIGHT, QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER ANTE. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. ALRIGHT, SO THIS IS AFF. WHY IS THE RECOMMENDATION SUT C TWO S INSTEAD OF C3 S? WE DID RECOMMEND THE C TWO S JUST TO KEEP IN ALIGN WITH THE NORTH SECTOR PLAN FOR GENERAL URBAN TIER. GRANTED THAT THE NORTH SECTOR PLAN WAS ADOPTED IN 2010, THIS AREA WILL PROBABLY BE LOOKED AT FOR NOT FOR ANOTHER LIKE FIVE OR SO YEARS, BUT THAT'S REALLY WHERE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS STOOD. AS THE APPLICANT DID SAY IT'S AN EXISTING C3, IT IS SURROUNDED BY C3. OKAY. BUT THE PLAN LIMITS US IN ZONING, CORRECT? WELL, THEY HAVE PROPOSED, UH, ZONING DISTRICTS. MM-HMM. AND SO THE EXISTING GENERAL URBAN TIER, UM, ONLY GOES UP TO C TWO, HENCE WHY WE RECOMMENDED C TWO S. UM, BUT THEY ARE PLANNING ON GOING TO PLANNING COMMISSION NEXT WEEK TO ASK FOR THE, UM, PLAN AMENDMENT AS WELL. OKAY. SO IF THEY GET THE PLAN AMENDMENT, THEN C3 S IS STILL A POSSIBILITY? CORRECT. AND IN FACT, IF THERE'S A CONFLICT, IF PLANNING COMMISSION SAYS NO TO THE PLAN AMENDMENT AND WE SAY YES TO C3, IT CAN STILL GO FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. CITY COUNCIL WILL HAVE THE FINAL DECISION ON THIS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER WHITSETT? I THINK COMMISSIONER BUSANTE PROBABLY COVERED A LOT OF IT AS TO WHY YOU'RE STICKING A LITTLE RECTANGLE IN THE MIDDLE OF C3 ON THE REST OF THE BUILDING AND THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, OR C3. IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE LOGICAL SENSE TO DO THAT AND PUT A C TWO IN THE MIDDLE OF C3. UH, REGARDLESS OF THE PLAN THING, I DON'T COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WHY Y'ALL HAVE TO DO THAT AND IT MAKES IT A PROBLEM FOR THE LANDOWNER ALSO. THIS ONE'S DIFFICULT FOR US. UH, COMMISSIONER, UM, WE UNDERSTAND THERE'S C3 ALL OVER THE AREA, ALL OVER THE AREA, BUT WE DO HAVE TO, UM, THE PLANS ARE ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL. WE'RE, UM, THESE ARE ASSOCIATED AND SUPPORTING SA TOMORROW, SO OUR RECOMMENDATION SHOULD BE ALIGNING WITH THOSE. BUT YOU ARE, THE COMMISSION IS WELCOME TO CONSIDER WHAT'S ON THE TABLE. YOURS IS JUST A RECOMMENDATION. DOESN'T MEAN IT HAS TO OF RIGHT. OF IT STILL MEANS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. I WOULDN'T SAY IT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING. IT IS STILL STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, BUT THE COMMISSION, AS YOU KNOW, HAVE THE ABILITY TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OR DENY. ALL RIGHT. QUESTIONS? UH, COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT. NONE. AND, UM, COMMISSIONER BUS DEANTE ASKED MY QUESTION THAT I HAD BECAUSE OTHERWISE IF THEY HAD NOT ASKED FOR A PLAN AMENDMENT AND WE APPROVED C3 TODAY, THEN THEY WOULD THEN NEED TO ASK FOR A PLAN AMENDMENT. BUT THEY'VE ALREADY THOUGHT THAT THROUGH. AND THEY'RE GOING FOR THE PLAN AMENDMENT AS WELL. CORRECT? IT'S, THAT'S OUR NORMAL PROCESS. IF SOMETHING IS TO BE PROPOSED THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE ADOPTED PLAN, THEY DO REQUIRE A PLAN AMENDMENT, HENCE WHY THEY ARE GOING NEXT WEEK. OKAY. ALRIGHT. ALL QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED, I GUESS, SO TO YOU COMMISSIONER BARDOS FOR A MOTION? WELL, I, I, I, IT'S AN INTERESTING COMMENT BY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE, BUT, UM, I'LL JUST MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UM, ITEM NUMBER SIX, UH, AS A PET CARE, UH, WITH THE ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION AT THIS POINT. SO TO CLARIFY, ARE YOU, ARE YOU SUPPORTING THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST OR ARE YOU GOING TO SUPPORT STAFF'S REQUEST? UH, C TWO S. C TWO S, YEAH, SO THAT IS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. OKAY, UNDERSTOOD. OH, OKAY. OKAY. SO THERE IS A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF C TWO S BY COMMISSIONER BARDOS. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. OKAY. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ. UH, DISCUSSION COMM. COMMISSIONER BUS DE MONTE. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS. I THINK C3 IS APPROPRIATE HERE. UH, THERE'S NO ISSUE WITH RESPECT TO THE SPECIFIC USE AND SO I WILL BE VOTING AGAINST THIS MOTION, I THINK AS SUBMITTED AS MORE APPROPRIATE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? UH, COMMISSIONER . I'M GONNA DITO, UH, COMMISSIONER BUSTA MONTE'S COMMENTS ON THIS. ALRIGHT. COMMISSIONER'S ON MY RIGHT ALSO. OKAY. COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES. OKAY. [00:30:01] UH, COMMISSIONER OSA, UH, JUST HAD A QUESTION FOR STAFF. SO, UH, KINDA LIKE WHAT I HEARD. SO AFTER HERE, SHE'S GONNA GO TO PLANNING. THEY MAY APPROVE THE C3. THEY ARE ONLY GOING TO LOOK AT THE PLAN ITSELF. SO THE RECOMMENDATION, THE APPLICANT, THE PLAN AMENDMENT IS A REQUEST TO AMEND THE PLAN FROM, UM, SUBURBAN TIER, I APOLOGIZE, SUBURBAN TIER TO REGIONAL CENTER, WHICH WOULD ALLOW THE C3 ALIGNED WITH THE C3 USES. BUT AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT PLANNING COMMISSION IS GONNA BE LOOKING AT, NOT THE ZONING DISTRICT ITSELF. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND JUST LIKE Y'ALL, PLANNING COMMISSION IS A RECOMMENDING BODY AND THEY'RE GONNA BE DOING A RECOMMENDATION. CITY COUNCIL AS A FINAL YES OR NO, MR. CHAIR. UM, ONE MORE COMMENT. WE CAN WITHDRAW THE MOTION AND SAVE A LOT OF TIME, SO I'LL WITHDRAW. YOU DON'T KNOW HOW EVERYBODY'S GONNA VOTE THOUGH, ? NO, I'M, I'M SENSING THAT WE'RE GONNA TURN IT DOWN AND SAVE A LOT OF TIME. WE SAVE 10 MINUTES. UM, 10 MINUTES. SO I'LL WITHDRAW THE MOTION SO WE CAN, UH, UH, UH, APPROVE A DIFFERENT MOTION. ALRIGHT. ALL RIGHT. UM, HE COULD JUST WITHDRAW THE MOTION, CORRECT? YEAH, YOU JUST GOTTA ASK THE SECOND IF THEY AGREE. I CONCUR. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. MOTION IS WITHDRAWN OPEN. THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR AN ALTERNATIVE MOTION. MR. CHAIR, I MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER SIX AS SUBMITTED, WHICH FOR THE AVOIDANCE OF DOUBT IS C3 S AND I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. ALRIGHT, THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE AS, AS C3 S AS THE APPLICANT'S DESIRE WITH, UH, BY COMMISSIONER BUSTA MONTE WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARDOS. ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? LOOKING LEFT. SEEING NONE. LOOKING RIGHT, SEEING NONE. ALL RIGHT. UM, MAYBE I'LL JUST VOTE AGAINST IT JUST OUT OF SPITE. I DON'T KNOW , BUT, UM, ALRIGHT. UH, MOTION IS TO APPROVE AS C3 S ROLL. CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE AYE. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES. COMMISSIONER NOOSA? YES. COMMISSIONER REYES? YES. COMMISSIONER HUI AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITSETT? YES. COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES. CHAIR SIPES? YES. HI PASSES. WE DID NOT SAVE 10 MINUTES. . I HEARD HIM. ALRIGHT. UH, MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, I BELIEVE IF WE COULD HAVE STAFF'S REPORT PLEASE. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS SAMANTHA BENAVIDEZ, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER THREE IS LOCATED AT 7 5 2 3 WEST MILITARY DRIVE AND 7 0 1 9 WOODGATE DRIVE GOING FROM OH TWO HIGH RISE OFFICE DISTRICT AND C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO C TWO CD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR OVERSIZED VEHICLE AND VEHICLE STORAGE WITH ALL OVERLAYS STAYING THE SAME. THERE WERE 25 NOTICES SENT OUT. ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET AND NO RESPONSE OUTSIDE 200 FEET. THE PROPOSED USE IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF RESIDENTIAL USES IN THE AREA. THE PORTION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ZONE C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE SURROUNDING AREA. THE PORTION ZONED O2 HIGH RISE OFFICE DISTRICT IS NOT APPROPRIATE GIVEN THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL. SINGLE FAMILY USES THE PROPOSED C TWO CD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR OVERSIZED VEHICLE AND VEHICLE STORAGE IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THE PROPERTY OR THE SURROUNDING AREA. COMMON LAND USE PRINCIPLES RECOMMEND THAT HIGH DENSITY INTENSITY LAND USES ARE SEPARATED BY LOWER INTENSE USES TO BUFFER AND REDUCE THE IMPACT OF RESIDENTIAL USES THAT ARE NEARBY. OVERSIZED VEHICLE USE IS PERMITTED BY WRIGHT AND L LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND I ONE GENERAL INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS, WHICH ARE TYPICALLY REMOVED FROM RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND COMMERCIAL USES, WHICH ACCOMMODATE HIGH DENSITY OF PEOPLE AND COMMERCE STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR PROJECT. EXCUSE ME. UH, CHAIR THE APPLICANT HAS, IS GONNA TRY TO DO HIS PRESENTATION IN ENGLISH, BUT HE ASKED FOR ME TO BE HERE IN CASE HE RUNS INTO TROUBLE. GREAT. THANK YOU. YEAH. ANY QUESTIONS? I MEAN, UM, JUST, JUST, MY NAME IS ROGELIO ARIAS, I'M THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY. OKAY. YEAH. JUST A BRIEF DESCRIPTION ON WHAT YOU'RE PLANNING TO DO. I JUST WANT HAVE A PARKING LOT OVER THERE. I MEAN, UH, I HAVE A [00:35:01] COMPANY WHICH IS, I HAVE A FEW EMS AND I JUST WANNA, I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY JUST TO PARK MY TRUCKS OVER THERE, BUT NOW I JUST, I HAVE, IT'S A BIG PROPERTY SO I JUST WANNA USE IT, UH, AS A PARKING. I'M NOT GONNA BRING ANY, ANY 18 WHEELERS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. JUST, I GOT FOUR TENDONS AND I WANNA PARK IN AWAY FROM THE, FROM THE HOMES. UM, EVERYTHING ELSE GONNA, ALL THE PARKING LOT THAT YOU HAVE IN THE BACK IS GONNA BE JUST LIKE CARS, RVS, SOMETHING THAT IS NOT GONNA BE, I JUST WANNA MAKE A LITTLE, A LITTLE MONEY OUT OF THE PROPERTY SO I CAN PAY MY TAXES ON IT. ON IT. I'M NOT DOING ANYTHING. NOTHING. I'M, I'M NOT BRINGING ANY, ANYTHING, ANY ANYTHING. WHEELERS. I KNOW I HAVE A, MY, I HAVE A HEAVY, HEAVY UTILITY VEHICLES, WHATEVER, BUT THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT ANYTHING WHEELERS, THEY'RE EMS JUST LIKE THIS. SO IT'S JUST ONLY FOUR OF 'EM. EVERYTHING ELSE GONNA BE JUST CARS AND BOATS, RVS AND THAT. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UM, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? WE DO HAVE, UH, VOICEMAILS TO BE PLAYED. ALRIGHT. IF WE COULD HEAR THE VOICEMAILS FIRST AND THEN SAMANTHA. MY NAME'S BENJAMIN ALONSO AND I LIVE ON 1326 KEN ROCK STREET. UH, I WAS CALLING IN FAVOR OF THE ON CASE NUMBER Z 20 23 1 0 7 0 0 1 9 7 CD UH, IF YOU GOT ANY QUESTIONS, YOU CAN GIMME A CALL BACK AT (210) 931-4277. AGAIN, THIS IS REGARDING THE PROPERTY BEHIND OUR HOUSE. UM, AND I'M IN TOTAL FAVOR OF, OF HIM MAKING A PARKING LOT WITH IT. I HAVE NO ISSUE AT ALL. UH, WITH, WITH, WITH THAT, UM, AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, YOU COULD GIMME A CALL AGAIN AT (210) 931-4277. THANK YOU. HAVE A GREAT DAY. HELLO. GOOD AFTERNOON, SAMANTHA. MY NAME IS EZEKIEL MARTINEZ. I WAS CALLING ABOUT THE REZONING CASE. UH, THIS IS Z AS IN ZEBRA, 2023 DASH 1 0 7 0 0 1 9 7 DD AND I, I SAW THAT THE NOTICE ON MY FENCE. I, I'M THE OWNER OF THE OCON LUBE THAT'S ON 75 15 WEST MILITARY, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 3 2. I'M THE ADJACENT, UM, OWNER OF THE LAND THAT'S, UH, UH, HAS AN APPLICATION FOR REZONING. I BELIEVE IT'S FOR A COMMERCIAL, UM, PARKING FOR SEMI-TRUCK AND OTHER OVERSIZED VEHICLES. UM, I HAVE ZERO OBJECTIONS TO THAT AND IN FACT IT WOULD PROBABLY BENEFIT OUR BUSINESS JUST 'CAUSE THERE'S MORE SECURITY. UH, THERE'S MORE JUST MOVEMENT THERE. UM, I HAVE HAD IN THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF, ABOUT THREE DIFFERENT BRAKING ATTEMPTS AT MY BUSINESS. UM, WE USED TO BE THE BLOCKBUSTER STORE THAT WAS ON THAT CORNER. I CONVERTED THE BUILDING INTO AN AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR SHOP, BUT IT WAS JUST A DARK CORNER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE WERE ABLE TO SHINE SOME LIGHT THERE. AND THE HOMELESS PROBLEM AND JUST THE ADDICTION PROBLEM THERE HAS NOT BEEN ON OUR SIDE, BUT BEHIND US WHERE THIS ZONING, UM, APPLICATION IS, THERE HAS BEEN, I GUESS IT'S A PLACE OF POTENTIAL MORE BREAK-INS FOR OUR BUSINESS. JUST 'CAUSE IT'S JUST, THERE'S NOTHING THERE. UM, IF THERE'S BEEN MORE MOVEMENT, THERE'S MORE TRUCKS ALLOWED THERE, THERE'S MORE PERSONNEL, MORE MORE BUSINESS ACTIVITY. IT JUST KEEPS OUT THE VAGRANT, THE, THE THIEVES. YOU, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF THE HOMELESS PEOPLE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE BREAKING IN. IT'S HARD TO TELL, BUT I HELLO. GOOD MORNING. THIS IS JENNIFER ALVAREZ. I LIVE ON 68 43 CEDARWOOD AND I'M JUST CALLING ON THE BEHALF OF THE YARD THAT'S, UH, LOCATED ON 75 23 WEST MILITARY DRIVE. UM, JUST WANNA CALL ON BEHALF OF THE YARD AND TO SAY I APPROVE OF IT BEING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, YOU CAN CALL ME BACK AT TWO TEN NINE SIX SIX SIX FIVE SEVEN SIX. THANK YOU MA'AM. HAVE A BLESSED DAY. YES. HELLO, MY NAME IS JOHN. I LIVE ON 68 39 CEDARWOOD COURT. I'M CALLING ON THE BEHALF OF ROGELIO ARIA. I AM IN FAVOR OF HIM HAVING A STORAGE PARKING BACKYARD ON MILITARY [00:40:01] DRIVE. FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, YOU CAN CALL ME (210) 900-5187. THE ADDRESS I'M CALLING ABOUT IS 75 23 WEST MILITARY DRIVE. I BELIEVE THE CASE NUMBER'S GONNA BE D DASH 2 0 2 3 DASH 1 0 7 0 0 1 9 7 CD. THANK YOU SO MUCH. HAVE A GREAT DAY. HELLO, THIS IS MARIO. SOFA ON. THANK YOU. BYE. AND THAT'S IT FOR, UH, VOICEMAILS AND THERE WAS NO ONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THAT. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. MR. ADI, DID YOU WANNA RESPOND TO ANY OF THOSE VOICEMAILS? UM, NO. NO. JUST WHEN I ATTEND THE, THEY THEY CALL AND, UH, WHEN I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY IT WAS, UH, IT WAS A, IT WAS A HOME OF A LOT OF, A LOT OF HOMELESS. SINCE I FENCE OUT THE PROPERTY, IT SEEMS THAT THEY MOVE OUT, THEY MOVE OUT OF THE AREA. THAT'S WHY EVERYBODY'S LIKE, WHEN, WHEN I WAS FENCING THE PROPERTY, THEY WERE, THERE WERE, A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE ASKING ME WHAT I WAS GONNA DO WITH IT. I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I WAS GONNA DO. I JUST WAS JUST GONNA SHOW THE PARKING LOT. BUT, UH, IT HELPED 'EM A LOT. IT WAS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA, BUT IT WAS THE BLACK MESS WAS RECOGNIZ ON THE PROPERTY, WAS LIKE HOME OF, UH, A LOT OF, A LOT OF HOMELESS AND THEY'RE NOT THERE ANYMORE. THEY MOVED TO HIGHWAY 90 AND, AND MILITARY. SO I'M NOT DOING ANYTHING. I MEAN, I JUST WANNA DO THE PARKING LOT, JUST MAKE EVERY MONEY OF IT. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UM, THIS IS A DISTRICT SIX CASE, SO COMMISSIONER HUEY FOR YOUR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU MR. ADIO FOR COMING TODAY. AND DON'T WORRY, YOUR ENGLISH IS PERFECT. OKAY? RIGHT. AND, AND YOU ARE RIGHT. YOUR PROPERTY IS VERY WELL SECURED. I TRIED TO GET IN THERE, TAKE A LOOK. YOU HAD, UH, DO NOT TRESPASS SIGNS AND YOUR, YOUR FENCES WERE YOUR, WERE IN PLACE. UM, SO WHEN YOU AND I TALKED, I DIDN'T ASK YOU THIS, BUT LET ME ASK YOU, WHAT ARE YOUR HOURS OF OPERATION? WE WORK, WE START WORKING AT, UH, 5 30, 6 O'CLOCK, SIX O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, AND WE DONE BY FIVE O'CLOCK EVERY DAY. AND THAT'S ONLY FOUR TRACKS. THAT'S IT. AND WHOEVER I, WHOEVER WHOEVER WANTS TO PARK OVER THERE IS JUST GONNA BE PEOPLE JUST GONNA LEAVE THEIR CARS THERE FOR NO, NOT NOT NOT MOVING THEIR CARS EVERY DAY. MAYBE LANDSCAPERS, LANDSCAPERS OR SOMEBODY LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, BUT NOT, NOT REALLY. I I'M NOT GONNA, I'M NOT GONNA BE ANYBODY LIKE ME. IT ME, IT'S GONNA BE THE ONLY ONE THAT IS GONNA BE ABSOLUTELY ON THE PROPERTY ALL THE, ALL THE TIME. OKAY, THANK YOU. AND JUST MONDAY TO FRIDAY FROM, FROM FIVE O'CLOCK TO SIX TO FIVE. FIVE TO FIVE PRETTY MUCH. OKAY. AND THEN ON YOUR SITE PLAN, YOU SHOW THAT, UM, YOU'RE GONNA PAVE OVER THE ENTIRE PROPERTY? NOT, I MEAN, WHATEVER I CAN DO TO IMPROVE, I WANT WHATEVER I CAN AFFORD. YEAH, BECAUSE ON YOUR SITE PLAN, IT SHOWS, UH, THE ENTIRE PROPERTY AS BEING IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE. MM-HMM. , I WOULD ASSUME THAT'S GONNA BE, UM, PAVED. PAVED OR ASPHALT, WHATEVER, WHATEVER. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO WHEN YOU DO THAT, UH, WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO DIVERT THE RAINWATER TO? YOU DIVERTED TOWARDS WOODGATE OR YOU GONNA DIVERTED TOWARDS, UH, MILITARY? I THINK I GET DIVERTED TO MILITARY DRY. THAT'S WHAT I THINK IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GONNA DIVERTED TO MILITARY DRY PROBABLY. ALL RIGHT, BECAUSE COMMISSIONER, I SPOKE WITH IT, IF I CAN CHIME IN, I'M SORRY. THIS IS MELISSA RAMIREZ'S, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR. THOSE DISCUSSIONS WILL HAPPEN AT THE TIME OF BUILDING PERMIT AND THEY ARE REQUIREMENTS OF WHERE THE WATER WILL FLOW. OKAY, GREAT. GREAT. BECAUSE WHEN I SPOKE TO YOUR, YOUR NEIGHBORS BEHIND YOU, THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONCERNS THEY HAD IS THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT THE LITTLE YARDS TO BE FLOODED. I WILL DO WHATEVER, WHATEVER NEEDS TO BE DONE. GREAT, THANK YOU. WE WOULD AGREE WITH THAT AS WELL, SIR. ALRIGHT. UH, LIGHTING, I DIDN'T SEE ANY LIGHTING ON YOUR, UH, SITE PLAN. WERE YOU PLANNING TO HAVE SECURITY LIGHTING? YEAH, WHATEVER I NEED TO, WHATEVER NEED TO BE DO EVENTUALLY WITH THE TIME. YES. OKAY. AND THEN WHEN YOU DO PUT THE SECURITY LIGHTING MM-HMM. , IT'S GONNA BE DOWNWARDLY DIRECTED AND AWAY FROM YOUR NEIGHBORS SO THAT YOU'RE NOT SHINING INTO THEIR BACKYARDS. EXACTLY. IT'S GONNA BE JUST ON THE, ON THE, JUST ON THE PROPERTY. AND WE HAVE A LOT, WE HAVE A LOT OF LIGHT ALREADY FROM THE PARK AND FROM THE OIL CHANGE SHOP, THERE IS A LOT. I MEAN, IT IS VERY LIGHT. I MEAN, BUT I STILL SOME LIGHTS ON IT TO MAKE IT, MAKE IT SECURE, MAKE IT. AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT YOU MADE THE AMENDMENT ON YOUR SITE PLAN TO MOVE YOUR, UH, YOUR TANDEM TRUCK PARKING MORE [00:45:01] AWAY FROM YOUR NEIGHBORS. I DO APPRECIATE THAT. AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHATEVER IS GONNA BE MOVING IS GONNA BE AWAY FROM THE HOMES. IT'S GONNA BE ON THE, ON THE PAR. OKAY. SO, UM, MR. CHAIR, I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS. I WANNA, I'LL OPEN UP TO THE REST OF MY COMMISSIONERS. ALRIGHT. UM, QUESTIONS, FELLOW COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT, NONE. COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT. UH, COMMISSIONER TSET, UH, QUESTION, I'M LOOKING AT THE 2022 PHOTO AND THERE WAS ALREADY SOME SITE, UH, SOME WORK OUT THERE, UH, ON THE PROPERTY ACCORDING TO GOOGLE. UM, AND THERE WAS A WOOD FENCE ON THE BACK PARTIALLY THAT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS NEW. ARE YOU PLANNING TO PUT A WHOLE NEW WOOD FENCE AROUND TWO SIDES OF IT AND A CHAIN LINK? UH, ON WHICH PART? THE, BY THE HOMES OF THE HOUSES, RIGHT? CORRECT. BY THE HOUSES? NO, THE HOUSES, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN FENCE ALREADY. I GOT TWO FENCES. ONE, ONE IS MINE, THE OTHER ONE IS THEM. SO YOU'RE DOING A FENCE, IS IS THEIR FENCE? YOU'RE DOING YOUR OWN FENCE? I ALREADY HAVE A, ALREADY HAVE A FENCE, BUT I CAN'T DO IS I HAD, I MEAN, IF I HAD TO DO SOMETHING TO KEEP, BUT LIKE IT ON THE, ON THE, ON THE, ON THE, ON THE HOUSE PROPERTY, IT'S TWO FENCES. OKAY. YEAH, THE WOOD, THE WOOD FENCE IS THE HOMES. I MEAN, THEY, THEY, IT IS PART OF THEM. AND I, I ACTUALLY DID A, LIKE A WIRE FENCE. ALL RIGHT. UH, OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT. ALRIGHT, DONE. OKAY, COMMISSIONER, I, UH, SORRY TO INTERRUPT. ALSO, JUST TO CLARIFY WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER WET, THAT'S COMMENT WITH HIM BEING A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY ABUTTING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL OR ANY RESIDENTIAL USE, HE WOULD BE ENFORCED TO HAVE A SIX FOOT SOLID SCREEN FENCE AT MINIMUM, AND THEN ALSO A LANDSCAPE BUFFER ALONG THAT PORTION. SO JUST SO THAT YOU'RE AWARE, SO MINIMUM LANDSCAPE STANDARDS THAT Y'ALL IMPOSE ON HIM, IS THAT CORRECT? THEY WILL BE ENFORCED, BUT THE 30 FOOT, RIGHT NOW, THE MINIMUM LANDSCAPE BUFFER FOR A C TWO, A BUDDING, UM, SINGLE FAMILY IS ABOUT A 15 FOOT BUFFER. SO HIM GIVING 30 FEET IS DOUBLE THAT AMOUNT. UH, UH, FOR STAFF CLARIFICATION ON THE SITE PLANET, I THINK IT SHOWED A 15 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER, BUT AN OVERALL BUFFER OF 30 FEET? CORRECT. OKAY. BUT AGAIN, JUST CLARIFYING THAT A MINIMUM OF A 15 FOOT BUFFER WOULD BE MANDATORY OR REQUIRED WITH THE PERMITTING. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UH, BACK TO YOU COMMISSIONER EWEY FOR A MOTION. OKAY, THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. SO TYPICALLY I PREFER TO SEE AS WHAT THE STAFF HAD SAID, YOU KNOW, A MORE LESS INTENSE, UH, COMMERCIAL, UH, USE NEXT TO RESIDENTIALS. BUT IN THIS CASE, YOU KNOW, I, UM, I, WHEN I SPOKE WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS YESTERDAY, AND WE HAD SOME GOOD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT WAS OUT THERE BEFORE YOU CAME OUT, AND YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, UM, THERE WAS HOMELESS PEOPLE CAMP CAMPED OUT ON YOUR PROPERTY AND YOU DID A GOOD JOB OF FENCING IT OFF AND, AND THEY, THEY WERE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT. SO AGAIN, UM, TYPICALLY I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A C ONE, BUT IN THIS CASE FOR CONDITIONAL USE OF WHAT YOU'RE USING IT FOR AND HOW YOU'RE PLANNING TO IMPLEMENT YOUR PLAN, I'M GOING TO MOVE TO APPROVE YOUR APPLICATION. I'LL SECOND. WAS THAT YOU, COMMISSIONER REYES? YES. OKAY, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THE MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER HUEY WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER REYES. UH, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER ON MY RIGHT. SEEING NONE DISCUSSION, COMMISSIONER ON MY LEFT. SEEING NONE. UM, I WILL ECHO, UH, COMMISSIONER HUEY'S COMMENTS. UM, AND NOTE THAT I APPRECIATE THAT YOU REACHED OUT TO THE NEIGHBORS AND YOU HEARD THEIR CONCERNS MOVED THE, THE LARGER TRUCKS FARTHER AWAY FROM THE, UM, RESIDENTIAL. UM, AND SO I WILL, UH, THEREFORE ALSO BE SUPPORTING THIS MOTION IF WE COULD HAVE A ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. MOTIONS FOR APPROVAL. COMMISSIONER HUEY AYE. COMMISSIONER REYES? YES. COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES. COMMISSIONER NOOSA? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER WIT? YES. COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES. CHAIR SIPES? YES. ITEM PASSES. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, IF WE COULD MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE. [00:50:13] UH, GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. UH, CHAIR. MY NAME IS ILLA ROSALES PINA. I'M A PLANNING MANAGER WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. AND, UH, TODAY ITEM NUMBER FIVE, ZONING KZ TWO 2020 4 1 0 7 0 0 59 IS LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE INTERSECTION OF WACO ROAD AND, UH, IN THE INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 10 EAST. SO THE REQUEST IS TO CHANGE THE ZONING FROM OCLC TWO A HOD AND MP 10 A HOD TO CHANGE IT TO COMMERCIAL, UH, C TWO C-D-A-H-O-D AND IT'S COMMERCIAL AIR AIRPORT HAZARDOUS OVER HAZARD OVERLAY DISTRICT WITH CONDITIONAL USE OF MANUFACTURED HOME, OVERSIZED VEHICLE SALES, SERVICE AND STORAGE. SO 76 NOTICES WERE MAILED OUT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET. FIRE RETURN IN FAVOR, AND 21 IN OPPOSITION. AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN AN AREA THAT'S TRANSITIONING FROM UNDEVELOPED LAND AND OPEN SPACE TO A MORE RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIALLY AND INDUSTRIALLY DEVELOPED AREA. THERE ARE EXISTING INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES LOCATED TO THE EAST AND WEST OF THE PROPERTY ALONG THE INTERSTATE. THESE PROPERTIES ARE SIMILARLY ZONED FOR MORE INTENSE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL USES, BUFFERING SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL AND LIGHT COMMERCIAL USES FROM THE INTERSTATE BASED ON EXISTING CONDITIONS AND USES OF THE AREA. THE PROPOSED C TWO CD DISTRICTS, UH, WILL NOT HAVE AN ADVERSE IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORING LAND. USES. THE SITE PLAN PROVIDES THE LANDSCAPING BUFFERING THAT'S BEEN INCREASED TO 40 FEET AND 25 FEET GREATER THAN THE REQUIRED MINIMUM AMOUNT OF, OF 15 FEET ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE. THAT ABUTS THE RESIDENTIAL USES AS WELL. THERE'S ADDITIONAL FENCING TO FURTHER BUFFER THE PROPERTIES. DOWNWARD FACING LIGHTING, FULL CUTOFF FIXTURES WILL ALSO BE USED, UH, TO MINIMIZE POTENTIAL IMPACT TO NEIGHBOR NEIGHBORING UH, PROPERTIES. THE PROPOSED OPERATING HOURS FOR THESE, FOR THIS COMPANY IS, UH, FROM 7:00 AM TO 8:00 PM MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 8:00 AM TO 5:00 PM ON SATURDAYS, AND THEY'RE CLOSED ON SUNDAYS. SO THERE'S NO ASSIGNED ZONING ON THE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY THAT'S DESIGNATED OCL SINCE IT'S LOCATED OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS. IF THE PROPERTY BE IS ANNEXED THE ZONING REQUEST, BUT THE ZONING REQUEST IS DENIED, THE PROPERTY WOULD THEN BE REZONED TO DR. DEVELOPMENT RESERVE, WHICH ONLY PERMITS R SIX USES UPON OR ZONING UPON ANNEXATION THE PROPERTY THAT'S LOCATED WITHIN INSIDE THE CITY. LIMITED LIMITS WOULD MAINTAIN THEIR CURRENT ZONING OF C TWO AND MP 10. SO THE PROPOSED C TWO AND CD UM, ZONING IS, IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. THE ZONING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PROPERTY'S LOCATION ADJACENT TO A MAJOR INTERSTATE AND ITS PROXIMITY TO MAJOR FER. AND IT'S ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE I 10 EAST CORRIDOR PERIMETER PLAN. LAND USES RECOMMENDATION OF LOCATING MORE INTENSE USES BETWEEN MAJOR CORRIDORS AND RESIDENTIAL USES TO ACT AS A BUFFER. THE INCREASED BUFFERING PROVIDED IN THE SITE PLAN WILL FURTHER SCREEN ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL USES FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND HIGHWAY STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE ZONING REQUEST. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE. KEN BROWN. UH, BRANDON MCDONALD, UH, 100 NORTHEAST LOOP FOUR 10, SUITE 1385, UH, FOR THE APPLICANT WHERE MY HELP GO? THERE YOU GO. . UH, NOTHING WITHOUT HER. UM, I, I'M GONNA GO THROUGH FAIRLY QUICKLY. UM, I THINK YOU GUYS KNOW WHERE THE SITE IS. IT'S, IT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO 1604 AND, AND IH 10. IT IS A COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL, UH, CORRIDOR. AM I HITTING THESE BUTTONS? LET'S SEE. I AM THE WRONG WAY. UM, AS THE STAFF, UH, EXPLAINED, UH, IT IS CURRENTLY ABOUT 16 OF THE 37 ACRES IS OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS. UH, THERE'S A STRIP OF NP 10 AND THEN C TWO ALONG THE FRONTAGE, UH, TO OUR WEST IS AN INDUSTRIAL USE. UH, AND THEN TO THE WEST OF THAT TRACK IS AN INDUSTRIAL ZONE PROPERTY, ABOUT 24 ACRES. UH, TO OUR EAST IS A PROPERTY THAT WAS ZONED MXD, UH, THAT HAS ABOUT 20 ACRES OF [00:55:01] C3 AND ABOUT 30 ACRES OF MF 33. SO THAT'S ABOUT A THOUSAND UNITS OF APARTMENTS AND 20 ACRES OF C3, WHICH THE C3 IN AND OF ITSELF WOULD ALLOW AN AUTOMOBILE DEALERSHIP. UM, I GOING THE RIGHT WAY. SO WE ARE ASKING, AS STAFF SAID, WE'RE ASKING FOR A C TWO C, UH, UM, CONDITIONAL TO ALLOW FOR TRUCK SALES AND SERVICE. UM, AM I GOING? SO AT PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, WHICH WAS LAST WEEK OR THE WEEK BEFORE, UH, OUR SITE HAS A DESIGNATION FOR URBAN LIVING, UH, WHICH WE DON'T FEEL IS APPROPRIATE THERE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE DEFINITION, UH, IT'S CIVIC MIXED USE WALKABILITY, STUFF LIKE THAT. WE ARE ON IH 10 CORRIDOR. UH, IT DOES ALLOW, UH, AS A ZONING DISTRICT IN THAT URBAN LIVING MXD, AND THAT'S WHAT THE ABUTTING PROPERTY OWNER REZONED IT TO. AND UNDER THE MXD, THEN THEY WERE ALLOWED TO GET C3 MF 33. THEY COULD ACTUALLY, THEY OR A PROPERTY OWNER COULD GET INDUSTRIAL UNDER THAT MXD. UH, WE DON'T THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE IN THAT AREA. UH, WE ARE SEEKING, AND WE SOUGHT TO HAVE, UH, THE PLAN AMENDED AND IT WAS AMENDED. UM, UM, AND THE HIGHEST DISTRICT ALLOWED FOR THE AMENDED CATEGORY THAT WE REQUESTED WAS C TWO, WHICH IS THE BASE DISTRICT THAT WE WERE ASKING FOR. UM, SO THERE'S, OUR SITE, AS I SAID TO THE WEST IS INDUSTRIAL, BUT THAT'S 1604, WHICH IS REGIONAL COMMERCIAL. THAT'S WHAT ALL THE RED IS. UM, THAT'S TO THE EAST. UH, ONCE AGAIN, IT'S THE, UH, MXD THAT HAS THE C3 AND, UH, THE MF 33. UH, THIS IS THE MXD SITE PLAN. UM, JUST TO SHOW YOU THAT AN MXD SITE PLAN IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN A CONDITIONAL SITE PLAN THAT WE ARE PROPOSING. UM, THEY JUST DESIGNATE THE ACREAGE AND THE ZONING DISTRICTS IN THIS CASE, AS I SAID, MF 33 AND C3, THEY CAN MOVE THOSE DISTRICTS AROUND. UH, RIGHT NOW IT SHOWS THAT, THAT THEY'RE BUDDING THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, BUT THEY CAN PUT THE C3 NEXT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT THAT'S WHAT THAT IS, A FLEXIBILITY WITHIN THE MXD DISTRICT. UM, THERE WAS A QUESTION IN THE WORK SESSION AS TO WHY THIS CAME BACK UP. UM, WE WERE NOT INVOLVED IN THE ORIGINAL, UH, PROPOSAL OR SUBMITTAL OR PROCESSING OF, UH, BUT WE WERE CONTACTED BY, UH, DOGGETT AND, UH, ASKED TO MEET WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER, WHICH WE DID. AND, UH, WE SUGGESTED TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER THAT JUST TURNING DOWN THE ZONING CASE, ZONING LEAVES THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, VULNERABLE. UH, THERE IS 16 ACRES OF PROPERTY THAT IS OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS. UM, AND WHEN THAT ORIGINAL CASE WAS WITHDRAWN, THE PETITION FOR ANNEXATION WAS, WAS WITHDRAWN ALSO. SO HAVING THAT 16 ACRES OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS, IT'S NOT IN THE CITY. THE ONLY WAY THE CITY CAN ANNEX THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY IS IF WE INSTIGATE, UM, UH, DEVELOPMENT ON THE PROPERTY. IF WE INSTIGATE DEVELOPMENT ON THE PROPERTY, FOR INSTANCE, WITH A PLAT OR A PERMIT, WE WOULD THEN HAVE CONTINUATION OF USE RIGHTS OR NON-CONFORMING RIGHTS. SO WE TRIED TO EXPLAIN TO HIM THAT THERE'S 16 ACRES THAT IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT IF, IF A DEVELOPER, UM, SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION FOR A PLAT FOR INDUSTRIAL USE OR OUTDOOR STORAGE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEY WOULD HAVE CONTINUATION OF USE RIGHTS. UM, AND SO WE ASKED HIM IF WE COULD PROCEED WITH THIS CASE AGAIN AND TRY TO GO BACK AND MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT UP. THERE IS AN EMAIL FROM, FROM THE COUNCIL'S, UH, ZONING COORDINATOR SAYING, UH, WE'RE FINE WITH YOU RESUBMITTING THE CASE, AND PLEASE GO BACK AND WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, WHICH WE HAVE DONE. UM, SO WE SUBMITTED THE APPLICATION AND WE, WE'VE HAD TWO LARGE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS, I, I SAY, WITH ALL SERIOUSNESS. THE FIRST ONE WAS AN ABSOLUTE FREE FOR ALL. UM, WE WERE SORT OF UNPREPARED. IT WAS IN A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK AND, YOU KNOW, WE BROUGHT SOMEONE FROM DOGGETT AND HE, HE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS AND THERE WAS A LOT OF FRUSTRATION. I I AM NOT GONNA SUGARCOAT IT. UM, SO WE SET UP A SECOND ONE ON SITE. UM, WE TRIED, WE TRIED TO CATER TO THE PEOPLE ON THE PROPERTY LINE BECAUSE THEY'RE THE MOST DIRECTLY IMPACTED. UH, WE TRIED TO TAKE THEM OUT THERE ON THE SITE SO WE COULD SHOW 'EM EXACTLY WHERE THE BUILDINGS WOULD BE, WHERE THE FENCING WOULD BE, WHERE THE WALLS, YOU KNOW, THE SETBACKS, THE BUFFERS, [01:00:01] UH, AND IT WENT A LOT BETTER. I MEAN, I'M NOT SAYING KUMBAYA, BUT I THINK WE HAD EIGHT OR NINE, UH, LETTERS THAT HAD PREVIOUSLY, UH, BEEN IN OPPOSITION, HAD SUBMITTED LETTERS, WITHDRAWING THEIR OPPOSITION. UH, SO THIS IS OUR CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN, BUT IT IS A SITE PLAN THAT WILL GO WITH THE ORDINANCE AND THAT WOULD BE ENFORCED. UM, AS, UH, STAFF SAID, A LOT OF THE CONCESSIONS THAT ARE ON THE SITE PLAN WILL BE IN THE ORDINANCE AND WILL BE A PART OF, OF THE ENFORCEMENT BY ZONING STAFF. UM, ONE OF THE FIRST ISSUES, UH, OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS TRAFFIC. UM, AND ESPECIALLY TRAFFIC ON WEEL ROAD. UH, SO AS PART OF, UH, AS PART OF OUR NEW PRESENTATION, WE WOULD ELIMINATE ANY TRUCK TRAFFIC ON WEEL ROAD. UH, ALL, ALL TRUCK TRAFFIC WOULD BE ON THE ACCESS ROAD. UH, WEEL ROAD WOULD HAVE AN ENTRANCE, BUT IT WOULD BE IN FOR EMPLOYEES ONLY. UH, ON THE ACCESS ROAD, WE'VE ALREADY MET WITH TDOT. UM, AND WE WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR, UH, BUILDING INGRESS EGRESS LANES. SO IT'S NOT TO, TO CAUSE UH, BACKUP ON THE ACCESS ROAD. EXCUSE ME, WHERE DID MY WATER GO? EXCUSE ME. SORRY ABOUT THAT. UH, WE DID DO PEAK HOUR, UH, TRIP ANALYSIS. UM, OUR PEAK HOUR TRIPS ARE BETWEEN 10 AND TWO. UH, FOR OUR SITE, UM, WE WOULD GENERATE THREE TIMES LESS TRAFFIC THAN MULTIFAMILY AND SIX TIMES LESS TRAFFIC THAN COMMERCIAL. ON THIS SITE, IT IS 36 ACRES, AND AS YOU CAN SEE FROM OUR SITE PLAN, ALMOST A THIRD OF IT WE'RE NOT EVEN USING BECAUSE OF, UH, THE DETENTION POND AND THE BUFFERS AND THE SETBACKS. SO A LOT LESS TRAFFIC. UM, THAT WAS THE FIRST, UM, CONCERN. UH, BUFFERS WERE THE SECOND CONCERN, ESPECIALLY ON, ON, UH, PEOPLE DIRECTLY ABUTTING. WE HAVE EXPANDED THE BUFFERS, UH, FROM, FROM 30 TO 40 AND 25 FEET. UH, ONCE AGAIN ON THE EAST SIDE, THERE'S ALMOST NOTHING OVER ON THAT SIDE. UH, MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE SCREENING. UM, THERE ARE REALLY NO TREES ON THE TRACT ITSELF BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN FARMED, BUT THE TREE LINE HAS BEEN MAINTAINED ALONG THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS, UM, HOMES. CAN YOU SHOW THEM? AND I HAVE TO ADMIT, THEY PROBABLY DON'T WANT ME TO USE THEIR EXHIBIT. THEY HAVE AN EXHIBIT OUT THERE THAT'S EXCELLENT, THAT SHOWS THE TREES ALONG THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY LINES ON THERE. IF YOU DON'T MIND, THIS DOESN'T CUT AGAINST ME THAT I, I KNEW THIS WASN'T GONNA WORK, GONNA WORK THAT. YEAH, THERE WAS THAT TECHNICAL. OKAY, WELL FORGET IT. UM, SO WE DROVE THE, WE DROVE THE PROPERTY LINE WHEN THE PEOPLE WERE OUT THERE. THERE IT IS. THAT'S NOT SO BAD. . UH, THOSE ARE THE HOUSES BACK THERE. OKAY. UM, AND, AND THEY HAVE AN EXAMPLE OUT THERE TOO. THESE, THESE TREES AND THIS, AND THIS IS ALL ALONG BOTH PROPERTY LINES OF THE HOMES. THOSE TREES ARE BETWEEN 25 AND 35 FEET TALL. UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, IN ADDITION TO THOSE TREES THAT WILL ALL BE PRESERVED, UH, WE'RE, WE HAVE AGREED TO BUILD AN EIGHT FOOT MASONRY, UH, WALL ALL ALONG, BOTH, BOTH EDGES OF THE PROPERTIES AT ABOVE US, THE SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES ABOUT AT ABOVE US, THAT'S ABOUT $400,000. UM, WE, WE LISTENED, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE PAID ATTENTION TO WHAT THEIR REAL CONCERNS WERE. UH, UM, WE ALSO, THE LIGHTING WILL BE DOWNWARD AWAY. UM, THE, THERE IS NO FUEL STORAGE, UH, ON SITE. UM, I THINK CAN YOU GO TO THE, IS IT ME? IT'S COMING. SO THE ONE THING THAT WE HAVE, AS I SAID, WE HAVE 36 ACRES. UH, WE DON'T HAVE A BUILDING WITHIN 300 FEET OF ANYONE'S PROPERTY LINE. UH, MOST OF THEM, AS YOU CAN SEE, ESPECIALLY TO THE EAST, UH, THEY'RE 6, 7, 800 FEET. WE ARE, WE ARE NOT CLOSE TO THEIR PROPERTY. UH, AND, AND THAT'S BY DESIGN. I MEAN, IT DIDN'T, IT DIDN'T JUST HAPPEN. UH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE SECOND TIME AROUND. IT IS DIFFERENT. WE ARE, [01:05:01] WE ARE, UH, PAYING ATTENTION AND LISTENING. UM, SO, UM, THERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF THIS. UM, THIS IS DOGGETT'S HEADQUARTERS IN HOUSTON. WE HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, RIGHT BEHIND US. UM, THERE WAS A, A LARGE CONCERN ABOUT PROPERTY VALUES. UH, THIS, THIS LOCATION HAS BEEN THERE FOR I THINK NINE YEARS. UH, OR, OR MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, REMODELED. UH, THE PROPERTY VALUES HAVE STAYED, UH, CONSISTENT IN THAT TIME. I KNOW IT'S NOT A LAND USE OR ZONING CONCERN, BUT WE AREN'T HERE TO HURT ANYONE'S PROPERTY VALUES EITHER. UH, THAT WILL BE WHAT THE FRONT WILL LOOK LIKE. UM, WE HAD A MORE UPSCALE RENDERING, BUT, UM, NO ONE BELIEVED IT WOULD LOOK LIKE THAT. I THINK IT WILL LOOK A LOT BETTER. BUT THAT IS ACTUALLY WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN HOUSTON ON A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE. I, I DID WANNA SAY, I THINK THE OPPOSITION IS GONNA SAY THAT OUR CURRENT LOCATION, WHICH IS ALMOST 30 YEARS OLD, UH, IS IN DISREPAIR. AND IT IS NOT IN GOOD SHAPE. IT'S, IT'S, IT IS 30 YEARS OLD. UM, IT WAS PUT TOGETHER PIECE BY PIECE OVER THAT TIME. I THINK A LOT OF INDUSTRIES HAVE, UH, HAVE, UM, MOVED FORWARD IN THE LAST 30 YEARS. BUT THIS IS THE INSIDE OF THAT SHOP, NOT, NOT THE NEW SHOP THAT, THAT'S THE 30-YEAR-OLD SHOP. UM, EVERYTHING IS DONE IN INDOORS. UH, MOSTLY EVERYTHING IS COMPONENTS. UH, WE DON'T TAKE BROKEN OR WRECKED RIGS. THESE ARE THESE, THIS IS SERVICE. UM, ONLY, UM, WE DO HAVE SOME REALLY INTERESTING, UM, OPPOSITION FROM APARTMENTS THAT ARE REALLY, REALLY FAR AWAY. UH, THIS IS THE SITE, THIS IS WHERE WE MET WITH THE PEOPLE. UH, THOSE ARE THE APARTMENTS. UH, THERE'S ACTUALLY A ROW OF HOUSES FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN BETWEEN US AND THE APARTMENTS. UH, I, I'VE HEARD THAT THEY HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE VIEW. UM, THEY HAVE A VIEW OF I THE IH 10 INDUSTRIAL CORRIDOR. UM, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF US IS AN INDUSTRIAL USE. AND THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT IS AN INDUSTRIAL ZONE PIECE OF PROPERTY. UM, THIS IS, I GUESS THIS IS THE VIEW THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO MAINTAIN. UH, THIS IS THE VIEW FROM THERE ON OUR PROPERTY. UM, THIS IS THE VIEW OF, OF THEIR APARTMENTS FROM THE BACK, UH, YARD OF THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. UH, I KNOW THEY'RE NOT COMPLETELY DONE, UM, BUT IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF SCREENING OR BUFFERING OR FENCING OR SETBACKS. UM, I, I, I WOULD'VE WOULD'VE THOUGHT IF THE VIEW WAS A BIG DEAL THAT THEY WOULD'VE CONSIDERED THEIR NEIGHBOR'S VIEW, UH, ANOTHER VIEW FROM THE STREET LOOKING THROUGH THE HOUSES, UM, TO THE APARTMENTS. UM, SO WHEN WE TALKED TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, AND WHEN, AND WE TOLD HIM WE THOUGHT THAT THERE WAS A VULNERABILITY THERE. UH, THAT THE JOB WAS NOT JUST TO SAY NO, BUT THE JOB WAS TO TRY TO DO WHAT HE COULD. YOU COULD TO PROTECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY AND TO PROTECT THE ABILITY OF A COMMUNITY LIKE THAT TO FUNCTION NEXT TO A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT'S 36 ACRES AND A BUTTS ON A, ON A INTERSTATE HIGHWAY THAT HAS INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL, UH, ALONG IT. UM, TYPICALLY IN THESE CASES, IT'S BETTER TO WORK WITH SOMEONE THAT YOU KNOW, SOMEONE THAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH AS OPPOSED TO JUST PUTTING A ZONING CATEGORY UP THERE LIKE THE APARTMENTS AND THEY JUST, THEY JUST MEET, YOU KNOW, BASIC CODE REQUIREMENTS. I I, I'M NOT FAULTING 'EM FOR THAT. THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT EVERYONE DOES. YOU KNOW, EVERYONE WORKS IN THEIR OWN, UH, ECONOMIC BEST INTEREST. UM, WE'RE HERE TO WORK WITH THEM TO PROVIDE THESE, UM, THESE COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS IN, IN THE SITE PLAN SO THAT THESE TWO USES CAN FUNCTION AND THE COMMUNITY CAN, UM, BE SUSTAINABLE. UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER 'EM. I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT. UM, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? WE DO. UM, I ACTUALLY HAVE TWO FOLKS WHO HAD SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, BUT YOU LEFT VOICEMAILS. UM, MR. CRAIG KPA, DID YOU WANT YOUR VOICEMAIL TO BE PLAYED OR SPEAK AT THE PODIUM? MR. KPA? ARE YOU HERE? YOU SAID VOICEMAIL, I BELIEVE, OR, OH, VOICEMAIL PLAYED. OKAY. UM, AND THEN THE OTHER GENTLEMAN, MR. RYAN HARDEN VOICEMAILS FINE. VOICEMAIL. OKAY. PLAY, UH, WE HAVE VOICEMAILS AND THEN WE HAVE SPEAKERS. SO [01:10:01] WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAR FIRST? WE WILL HEAR THE VOICEMAILS FIRST. ALL RIGHT. THIS MY ADDRESS. IT'S 1 0 6 2 6 PENELOPE WAY IN CONVERSE, TEXAS 7 8 1 0 9. UH, ZONING. CASE NUMBER LEFT THREE DIGITS IS NINE. CHARLIE DAVID AND I AM CALLING TO OPPOSE WHAT'S GOING ON. THANK YOU. YES. HELLO, MY NAME IS ANGELA KELLER. I AM A HOMEOWNER AT 1 0 8 1 9 HERNANDO COURT IN CONVERSE. I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO CASE NUMBER Z 2 0 2 4 1 0 7 0 0 0 5 9 CD4 1 1 0 WOLD ROAD. UM, I WANT TO EXPRESS MY CONCERNS ABOUT THIS PROPOSED TRUCKING FACILITY. UH, THIS IS NOT A BENEFIT FOR OUR, UH, PROPERTY VALUES OR WAY OF LIFE. NOTHING. UM, AS A REALTOR IN THE PAST, UH, IT WAS FOR MANY YEARS. I KNOW THIS IS GONNA HAVE A, A, AN EFFECT ON OUR PROPERTY VALUES AND, UH, THEY'RE NOT DOING GREAT RIGHT NOW, SO WE CERTAINLY DON'T NEED ANOTHER HIT. UM, IF TEXAS, Y'ALL, THERE'S SOMEWHERE ELSE Y'ALL CAN BUILD THAT FACILITY. UM, I, I, I JUST, IT'S SHOCKING THAT, THAT THIS IS POTENTIALLY GONNA HAPPEN. WE, WE ONLY BOUGHT HERE RECENTLY. MY HUSBAND IS NEAR RETIREMENT AND THIS, IT'S GONNA BE WORSE REALLY. SO BEING AT THIS AGE AND HAVING TO THINK ABOUT LEAVING AND STARTING OVER SOMEWHERE ELSE AGAIN, IS, IS KIND OF NAUSEATING. I'M SURE ANYONE COULD UNDERSTAND. SO PLEASE HELP US DO WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO AND LET'S DO SOMETHING MORE POSITIVE WITH THAT LAND. SOMETHING THAT COULD BENEFIT THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE. WE NEED A GROCERY STORE. SOMEBODY COULD CALL A TB, THAT WOULD BE GREAT, BUT NOT THIS TRUCKING MESS. WE, NO, THIS IS NOT GOOD. HI, MY NAME IS CHELSEA BOWIE. MY ADDRESS IS ONE ZERO FIVE ZERO THREE PABLO WAY. MY PHONE NUMBER IS (661) 904-4235. CASE NUMBER Z DASH 2 0 2 4 DASH 1 0 7 0 0 5 9 CD DASH 4 1 1 0 WHITE ROAD. I OPPOSE THE REZONING. IT'S FOR DOT FREIGHT LINER. I DO NOT WANT THE DOT FREIGHT LINER IN FRONT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD MATCH FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WOULD WANT THEM IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSES. UM, THIS SHOULD BE NEIGHBORHOODS WITHOUT BIG TRUCKS RUNNING AROUND. THERE'S CHILDREN, THERE'S PETS. ANYWAYS, I OPPOSE THE DOG AT FREIGHTLINER. THANK YOU. HI, GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS IKA SMITH. I'M AT 1 0 5 5 1 PABLO WAY, CONVERSE, TEXAS SEVEN EIGHT ONE ZERO NINE. PHONE NUMBER (281) 203-7240. I'M CALLING REGARDING, UM, THE CASE NUMBER Z 2 0 2 4 1 0 7 0 0 0 5 9 CD FOUR. I AM FIRMLY AGAINST HAVING DOGGETT MOVE THEIR FACILITY TO THE FRONT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, WE WANT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE USEFUL TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND AN 18 WHEELER DEALERSHIP IS NOT IT. WE WANT SHOPPING, WE WANT RECREATION, WE WANT THINGS OF THAT NATURE, BUT WE DO NOT NEED AN, AN 18 WHEELER DEALERSHIP IN FRONT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE'S ALL THAT SPACE ALONG I 10 WITH COMPARABLE BUSINESSES WHERE THEY COULD BUILD THAT AND THEY'RE CHOOSING TO PUT IT RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT WAS A LITTLE SKETCHY TO ME THAT THEY STILL HAVE ANOTHER LOT AVAILABLE YET THEY'RE JUST DETERMINED TO PUT IT WHERE WE DON'T WANT IT. SO, UM, I'M AGAINST IT AND SO IS MY FAMILY AND, UM, I HOPE THAT'S TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS COREY THOMAS AND I LIVE AT 1 0 7 1 9 ROSALINA LOOP IN CONVERSE, TEXAS. IN THE PALOMA [01:15:01] SUBDIVISION. I AM CALLING IN REGARD TO CASE NUMBER ENDING IN NINE CD UH, 4 1 1 0 WHITE HOLE ROAD. SO I'M CALLING IN REGARD TO THE ZONING FOR DOGGETT, AND I JUST WANTED TO AVOID CONCERNS AND APPREHENSION, UH, BECAUSE IN MY LIMITED UNDERSTANDING OF THE SITUATION, I'M BELIEVING THAT ONCE THAT SPOT IS ZONED INDUSTRIAL, IT IT, IT TAKES AWAY ALL OF OUR OPPORTUNITIES OF HAVING ANY TYPE OF, UH, ANY TYPE OF, OF OF BUSINESS THERE, RETAIL, ANY TYPE OF BUSINESS THERE THAT SERVES OUR COMMUNITY A LITTLE BETTER. AND WITH US BEING OVER HERE IN THIS AREA WHERE WE'RE AT, THE ONLY THING WE HAVE IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA IS WHATABURGER AND MCDONALD'S. SO IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE A COUPLE MORE THINGS COME IN THERE THAT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAY, SOME EATERIES OR IT COULD BE ANYTHING IN THERE. EVEN EVEN, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS A, A CAR WASH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SOMETHING THAT WOULD SERVE THE COMMUNITY A LITTLE MORE THAN JUST A BUSINESS THAT'S GONNA COME IN THERE AND MAKE IT INDUSTRIAL. IT'S GONNA, IT IS JUST NOT GONNA MAKE IT INVITING FOR OUR COMMUNITY THAT'S ALREADY OUT HERE ON AN ISLAND BY OURSELVES AS IT IS. WE SIT IN THIS LITTLE CORNER AND IT'S A LITTLE POCKET AND WE'RE KIND OF BY OURSELVES, WHICH IS A GOOD THING, BUT WE ALSO JUST DO NOT WANT IT TO BE, UM, DEGRADATED FOR A LACK OF A BETTER WORD, BY HAVING A TRUCKING COMPANY COME THERE. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, Y'ALL ENJOY YOUR DAY. WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS BEING, LISTENING TO US AND HEARING WHAT WE HAVE TO SAY AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOU GUYS MAKING THE DECISION THAT'S GONNA SERVE THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. YOU GUYS HAVE A GREAT DAY. HELLO, THIS IS CRAIG MICHAEL PLUMPER FROM 43 0 7 WEST VASQUEZ CIRCLE. CONVERSE, I WILL BE A BUTTON. THE PROPERTY THAT I'M CALLING ON, ON FREIGHTLINER AND THE CASE NUMBER IS FOUR ONE, NO, OH, I'M SORRY, Z 2 0 2 4 DASH 1 0 7 0 0 0 5 9. AND I OPPOSE THEM BUILDING A TRUCK DEALERSHIP IN MY BACKYARD THAT IT'S 4 1 1 0 WHITE COLT WHITE COLT ROAD. IS THE ADDRESS. IS THE ADDRESS. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. OUR NAME IS IRMA AND ROMEO CARRERA. WE LIVE IN 1 0 6 4 6 PABLO WAY. WE ARE CALLING IN REGARDS TO THE DOGGETT, UH, FOR CASE NUMBER Z 2024, UH, 1 0 7 3 0 5 9. CT, UH, LOCATED AT ONE NO LOCATED AT 41 10 WHITE CORAL ROAD. UH, WE OPPOSE THE DOGGETT, UH, WANTING TO BUILD THEIR, UH, BUILDING IN FRONT OF OUR SUBDIVISION. UM, MY NUMBER IS TWO TEN SIX EIGHT FIVE THIRTEEN FORTY THREE. THANK YOU. MY NAME'S GILBERT ELLO. ADDRESS IS FOUR TWO FOUR SEVEN WEST VASQUEZ CIRCLE. PHONE NUMBER IS (254) 702-6025. I SAY NO TO THE REZONING OF DOGGETT FREIGHT LINE THERE. UH, WE DON'T NEED A INDUSTRIAL FACILITY IN THE BACKYARD OF OUR HOMES. UH, HOMES SUPPOSED TO BE OR FOR RELAXATION, UH, FOR NOISE. SO AGAIN, I SAY NO. THE CASE. LAST THREE NUMBER IS 0 5 9. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS JOE MOST. MY ADDRESS IS 1 0 7 6 2 ANI DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO 7 8 1 0 9. CASE NUMBER IS Z 2 0 2 4 0 7 0 0 0 5 9 CD. I AM CALLING TO OPPOSE THIS PROJECT. WE ARE A LARGE RESIDENTIAL AREA, PALOMA ALONE, WHICH IS THE SUBDIVISION RIGHT BEHIND WHERE THIS PROJECT WILL BE BUILT, HAS 1,344 HOUSES. THERE ARE MANY OTHER SUBDIVISIONS AND RESIDENTIAL AREAS ALSO SURROUNDING THIS. OUR AREA BY NEXT YEAR WILL PROBABLY HAVE 10,000 [01:20:01] RESIDENTIAL HOMES. A LARGE SEMI SEMI-TRUCK SALES AND SERVICE DEALERSHIP IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THIS AREA. IF THEY ARE ALLOWED TO BUILD HERE, OUR PROPERTY VALUES WILL BE LOWERED BECAUSE THEY WILL BRING OTHER SIMILAR AUTO TYPE BUSINESSES LIKE MECHANIC SHOPS, AUTO BODY SHOPS, AUTO PARTS STORES, TIRE STORES, THINGS LIKE THAT. THOSE ARE THE THINGS YOU SEE NEAR DEALERSHIPS. SO PLEASE DO NOT PASS THIS. PLEASE VOTE. NO THANK YOU. MY NAME IS JOSEPH HUDSON. I LIVE ON ONE OH SIX THREE ONE ROSALINA LOOP. MY PHONE NUMBER IS AREA CODE (210) 980-1613 AND I'M REFERRING TO CASE ENDING IN 1 1 0. UH, GOOD MORNING COUNSEL. UNFORTUNATELY, I'M UNABLE TO ATTEND TODAY'S MEETING AS TIME IS ALWAYS AGAINST US. I WILL MAKE THIS BRIEF. I AM FOR DOGGETT BUILDING ON THE SITE NOW. UM, YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO HEAR A BUNCH OF OTHER RESIDENTS AND ABOUT THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT TRUCK TRAFFIC AND, UH, ISN'T THAT WHY I 10 BEING, IS BEING UPGRADED AS WE SPEAK? THEY'RE ALSO GONNA SHOW CONCERNS ABOUT WASTE DISPOSAL TRUCK SMOKE. BUT WHAT THEY FAIL TO TELL YOU, AND WHAT I HOPE THEY REALIZE IS THAT RIGHT BEFORE YOU GET TO YEC ROAD, THERE IS A SHOP THAT DOES, UH, 18 WHEELER TRUCK TRAINING AND, UH, TRUCK DRIVER TRAINING AND THEY ALSO CHANGE OIL. SO I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT THAT. GONNA HAVE A FEW CUSTOMERS, I MEAN A FEW RESIDENTS THAT'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT. UH, DOVAN HASN'T BEEN CLEAR ON WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO AND WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE ABOUT. I MEAN, THEY'VE BEEN, I I'VE BEEN TO TWO AND THREE MEETINGS AND I'VE ALSO SEEN EMAILS, UH, IN WRITING ABOUT WHAT DOGGETT WAS GOING TO DO. I MEAN, I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW YOU CAN SAY DOGGETT IS NOT BEING CLEAR ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO AND YOU'VE BEEN TO THIS MANY MEETINGS. EITHER YOU'RE NOT ASKING THE RIGHT QUESTIONS OR YOU'RE NOT READING ENGLISH OR SOMETHING. SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT. AND THAT'S WHAT THEY APARTMENT COMPLEX. UM, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW, HOW THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE SUPPLYING LAWYERS AND SHUTTLE BUSES TO THE RISE TO THE ZONING MEETING TODAY. UH, BUT THEY WON'T EVEN ADDRESS THAT. THEY'RE VIOLATING THE PRIVACY OF THE RESIDENCE ON PABLO WAY AND JENNY ALA AT ROSALINA LOOP IN REFERENCE TO CASE NUMBER 2 0 2 4 1 0 7 0 0 0 5 9 CD DASH 4 1 1 0 WHITE COAT ROAD. WE, THE UNDERSIGNED OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY AFFECTED BY, UH, REQUESTING THE REFERENCE FILE DO HEREBY PROTEST ANY CHANGE OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, WHICH WOULD ZONE THIS PROPERTY TO ANY CLASSIFICATION OTHER THAN R FOUR REASONS BEHIND THAT IS THE PRESERVATION OF THE RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER. UM, REZONING TO COMMERCIAL COULD DISRUPT THE PEACEFUL AMBIENCE AND SENSE THE COMMUNITY THAT THE RESIDENTS VALUE. ALSO TRAFFIC CONGESTION, UM, COMMERCIAL AREAS THAT, YOU KNOW, TEND TO ATTRACT MORE VEHICLES POTENTIALLY LEADING TO SAFETY HAZARDS AND CONVENIENCE FOR RESIDENTS. ALSO, NOISE POLLUTION AND POLLUTION IN GENERAL. UH, THESE WOULD DECREASE THE VALUE AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE THAT WE ENJOY CURRENTLY, UH, NOT, NOT ANY LESS IMPORTANT IS THE IMPACT ON OUR PROPERTY VALUES. UH, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES TYPICALLY LOSE VALUE WHEN LOCATED NEAR COMMERCIAL ZONES BECAUSE OF THE NOISE, TRAFFIC AND VISUAL IMPACT. UM, ANOTHER ITEM IS LOSS OF THE GREEN SPACE. UM, RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS OFTEN PROVIDE VALUABLE GREEN SPACE FOR RESIDENTS TO ENJOY AND IT WOULD DEFINITELY BE COMPROMISED BY COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. UM, ALSO COMMUNITY DISRUPTION. UM, I THINK, UH, WE THRIVE ON A SENSE OF BELONGING HERE AND IDENTITY, WHICH WOULD DEFINITELY BE ERODED BY THE INTRODUCTION OF COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISES. ONCE AGAIN, I WANNA REAFFIRM THAT WE PROTEST. AND, HELLO, MY NAME IS LAURA MATTHEW. UM, [01:25:01] I'M AT TEN SEVEN TEN HERNANDO COURT, TEXAS SEVEN EIGHT ONE OH NINE. MY PHONE NUMBER IS TWO TEN SEVEN SIX ZERO SIX THREE EIGHT THREE. UM, I'M CALLING IN REGARDS TO CASE NUMBER Z DASH 2 24 DASH 0 7 0 0 0 5 9 DD. UM, AND IT IS AT 4 1 0 WOLD ROAD. UM, I'M CALLING, UM, TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I AM OPPOSED TO DOGGETT FREIGHTLINERS, UM, PROPOSED REZONING FOR AN INDUSTRIAL FACILITY IN OUR COMMUNITY BACKYARD. THANK YOU FOR, UM, HEARING WHAT I HAVE TO SAY ON THIS MATTER. THANK OKAY. OR RUDY LOPEZ. UM, ADDRESS IS 1 0 7 1 5 FRANCISCO WAY, CONVERSE, TEXAS 7 8 1 0 9. ZONING NUMBER Z 2 0 2 4 DASH 1 0 7 0 0 0 5 9 CD. I OPPOSE THIS PROJECT OF HAVING, UH, DODGE IT COME OUT IN FRONT OF PALOMA COMMUNITY. AGAIN, I OPPOSE THIS PROJECT. THANK YOU. HELLO, MY NAME IS MICHAEL DUNHAM. I LIVE AT 32 18 CAR DRIVE, CONVERSE, TEXAS, AND I'M CALLING ABOUT CASE NUMBER Z 20 24 1 0 7 0 0 5 9 CD DASH 41 10. WE ROAD, I'M GOING TO OPPOSE THE DOGGETT DEALERSHIP TRYING TO BE BUILT IN FRONT OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, THE POSSIBLE DECREASE IN PROPERTY VALUES AND JUST THE ALL AROUND UGLINESS THAT'S GONNA BRING IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS SOMETHING I DON'T WANT. AS SOMEONE WHO WORKS IN THE AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRY, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE A DEALERSHIP THAT'S GOING TO BE DOING SERVICE AND REPAIRS AND THE, UH, BASICALLY A JUNKYARD IN MY BACKYARD AND I'D REALLY, REALLY RATHER NOT HAVE THAT THERE. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS NORMA DIAZ. I LIVE AT 1 0 6 3 0 PENELOPE WAY, CONVERS, TEXAS 7 8 1 0 9, AND THE OMA SUBDIVISION. MY CASE NUMBER IS Z 20 24 1 0 7 0 0 0 5 9 CD DASH OH. JUST THERE, UM, IT'S IN REGARDS TO THE DOGGETT TRYING TO BUILD IN FRONT OF OUR SUBDIVISION. I OPPOSE IT, NOT INTERESTED IN IT. DO NOT THINK IT'S RIGHT FOR THEM TO BE LOCATED IN FRONT OF A RESIDENTIAL AREA. THEY SHOULD BE MORE IN A, UM, COMMERCIAL AREA. UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, CALL ME BACK. MY NUMBER HERE IS TWO TEN SIX FIVE TWO TEN TWO FIVE ONE EIGHT THREE ONE ONE. THAT IS MY CELL NUMBER. UH, AGAIN, THIS IS NORMA DIAZ. THANK YOU. THIS IS PATRICK BLANTON AT 28 47 ION DRIVE IN THE PALOMA COMMUNITY. THIS IS IN REFERENCE TO OPPOSITION TO CASE NUMBER Z 20 24 1 0 7 0 0 5 9 CD 4 1 1 0 WHITE HOLD ROAD. I AM IN OPPOSITION TO THE DODGE FREIGHT LINERS PROPOSED REZONING FOR AN INDUSTRIAL FACILITY IN OUR COMMUNITY. I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS. THANK YOU TO JAMES CURRENT HOMEOWNER OF 43 31 WEST SCA CIRCLE. CALLING REGARDING CASE NUMBER Z 20 24 1 0 7 5 9 CCB DASH 4 1 1 0, WHICH I'LL LOAD BEING ONE OF THE HOMEOWNERS THAT WILL BE MOST AFFECTED. I FELT IMPERATIVE TO LEAVE THIS MESSAGE DUE TO WORK OBLIGATIONS. I CANNOT BE IN ATTENDANCE FOR THIS MEETING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO HEAR MY CONCERNS, UH, FOR THE DOIC FREIGHTLINER REZONING PROPOSAL, UH, TO BUILD AN INDUSTRIAL FACILITY IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA. UH, SELECTING THE LOCATION FOR MY FUTURE HOME AND INVESTMENT LAST YEAR WAS NOT EASY. IT WAS QUITE STRESSFUL. AFTER SEARCHING FOR SEVERAL MONTHS IF I SEE A HOME, THIS PROPERTY CAUGHT MY ATTENTION AT FIRST GLANCE AND I IMMEDIATELY FELL IN LOVE WITH IT. UH, IT FELT LIKE HOME THE MOMENT I WALKED THROUGH THE DOORS AND I PLACED A COMPETITIVE OFFER ON THIS HOUSE BECAUSE OF THE GREAT REPUTATION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT BEING A FAIRLY NEW HOME BUILT ON A PREMIUM LOT WITH A BIG BACK DOOR FOR MY FUR BABIES AND I TO PLAY AND NOT TO MENTION HOW [01:30:01] QUIET AND PEACEFUL IT IS. UH, IT HAS SERVED AS OUR OASIS, A PLACE OF RESCUES AND SOLITUDE AND A PLACE THAT'S BROUGHT GREAT JOY TO ME AND MY BOYS. UH, THERE'S NOT A DAY THAT WE'RE NOT IN THE BACKYARD PLAYING FETCH AND DECOMPRESSING FROM THIS CRAZY WORLD. ALTHOUGH I DO APPRECIATE DOGGETT'S WILLINGNESS TO TALK TO US. THERE IS A TIME THAT'S NOT BEING SAID, UH, IN OUR NOT ALLOWED TRUST. I BELIEVE, UH, DOGGETT BUILDING IN MY BACKYARD WILL NOT ONLY DISRUPT THE PIECE SINCE ALL TWO OF OUR WEST, UM, VASQUEZ NEIGHBORS, IT WILL ALSO DIMINISH OUR PROPERTY VALUES. FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, UM, I BELIEVE, UH, THERE'S A LOT TO BE SAID. UM, BUT THEY'RE NOT OBLIGATED TO SHARE INFORMATION BEYOND THE QUESTIONS BEING ASKED OR INFORMATION AT MESSAGE TO THEIR COMPANY'S BOTTOM LINE. BUILDING AN INDUSTRIAL FACILITY WOULD RATHER BE INTRUSIVE TO OUR PEACEFUL AND QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD. WE'VE ALREADY SAID NO BACK IN THE FALL. UH, DOG HAS BEEN PRETTY PERSISTENT AND AGGRESSIVE, UH, TO BUILD IN FRONT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, TO SAVE THEM MONEY, WHICH WILL FINANCIALLY COST US IN THE LONG RUN. UH, WHEN HAS A TRUCKING COMPANY ADDED VALUE TO A RESIDENTIAL AREA? AND HOW WILL HENDRA, UH, PHONE NUMBER (702) 526-9620. ADDRESS, 1 0 6 3 1 DINARO DRIVE, CONVERS, TEXAS 7 8 1 0 9. THIS IS IN REGARDS TO ZONING. CASE NUMBER Z 2 0 2 4 1 0 7 0 0 0 5 9 CD. UM, I'M JUST STATING MY OPPOSITION TO THE DOGGETT TRADE MICRO, THE PALOMA NEIGHBORHOOD FOR MOVING ON OFF WHITE COLD ROAD AGAIN IN OPPOSITION TO THAT. THANK YOU. FIVE IS RYAN HARDEN. UH, MY ADDRESS IS 43 98 WEST VASQUEZ CIRCLE IN SAN ANTONIO, SEVEN EIGHT ONE ZERO NINE. PHONE NUMBER IS (214) 642-3837. CALLING IN REGARDS TO ZONING CASE ENDING IN 0 5 9 CD. UH, GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. I'M THE DEVELOPER OF PALOMA LUXURY APARTMENT HOMES LOCATED DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM DOGGETT FREIGHTLINERS PROPOSED FACILITY IN 220 FEET FROM THEIR PROPERTY LINE. OUR COMMUNITY IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION ON 13 ACRES AND WILL CONSIST OF 264 MARKET RATE APARTMENT HOMES, WHICH WILL BE AMONG THE NICEST GARDEN APARTMENTS IN ALL OF SAN ANTONIO. SINCE 2015, MY GROUP HAS DEVELOPED THREE LUXURY COMMUNITIES IN SAN ANTONIO CONSISTING OF ALMOST 800 HOMES, AND PALOMA IS THE NICEST OF ALL THREE. OUR COMMUNITY IS AT THE VERY FRONT OF THE PALOMA SUBDIVISION AND WOULD OVERLOOK DOG. ITS PROPOSED 35 ACRE FACILITY. OUR APARTMENT BUILDINGS ARE THREE STORIES HIGH AND OUR RESIDENTS WOULD LOOK DIRECTLY DOWN INTO THEIR SERVICE AREA. WE BELIEVE THEIR FACILITY WOULD DEVASTATE THE VALUE OF OUR APARTMENT HOMES, BUT ALSO ALL HOMES WITHIN THE PALOMA COMMUNITY. WE PURCHASED OUR LAND, WHICH WAS ALREADY APPROPRIATELY ZONED FOR OUR DEVELOPMENT FROM THE MASTER PLAN DEVELOPER WHO IS ALSO STRONGLY OPPOSED TO THIS CASE. WE ARE SHOCKED BY THIS APPLICATION CONSIDERING DOGGETT OWNS AN ALTERNATIVE SITE NEARBY THAT IS ALREADY ZONED FOR THEIR APPROPRIATELY ZONED FOR THEIR PROPOSED USE AND IS NOT TOUCHING ANY HOMES. THEY HAVE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THIS IS THEIR BACKUP PLAN IF THEIR APPLICATION WERE TO BE DENIED BY YOUR COMMISSION. SO WHY RUIN THE HOME VALUES OF SO MANY RESIDENTS UNNECESSARILY WHEN THEY HAVE ANOTHER VIABLE OBJECT? HI, GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS TAMIKA THOMAS. I LIVE AT 1 0 7 1 9 ROSALINA LOOP, CONGRESS, TEXAS. CALLING IN REGARDS TO CASE NUMBER Z 2 0 2 4 1 0 7 0 0 5 9 C DASH 4 1 1 OH. IN REFERENCE TO WHITE COLD ROAD, I LIVE IN THE PALOMA SUBDIVISION CALLING IN REFERENCE TO THE, UH, REZONING, UM, RIGHT NEXT TO US ON WHITE COLD CODE. UM, AS YOU CAN TELL, MY VOICE IS BARELY HERE. UM, MY HUSBAND JUST CALLED IN MINUTES BEFORE I DID CORY THOMAS. UM, SO MY SENTIMENTS ARE EXACTLY WHAT HIS ARE. UM, WITHOUT GOING INTO FURTHER DETAIL, WE APPRECIATE THE, UM, EFFORTS AND THE GRACE EXTENDED FOR US TO BE ABLE TO HAVE OUR VOICES AND WISHES HEARD. THANK YOU. AND THAT IS IT FOR VOICEMAILS. I WILL MOVE NOW ON TO, UM, SPEAKERS. FIRST WE HAVE SPEAKER, UM, MR. BILL KAUFMAN, AND I BELIEVE SOMEBODY WAS GONNA GIVE UP THEIR TIME FOR YOU, MR. [01:35:01] CHAIRMAN, MY NAME IS JOHN MANNING AND I'M SIGNED UP TO SPEAK AND I'M TO DONATE MY TIME TO BILL LARMAN, MY . ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. AND THAT GIVES, UM, MR. KAUFMAN, YOU'LL HAVE SIX MINUTES. THANK YOU. UH, I'M BILL KAUFMAN, THE KAUFMAN GROUP, UH, 100 WEST HOUSTON STREET, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS. UH, IS MY POWERPOINT READY? GREAT, THANK YOU. NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. WE'LL GET STARTED. WELL, TIME IS LIMITED. I'LL TRY TO GO THROUGH THIS QUICKLY. A COUPLE THINGS. IT'S, THAT HADN'T BEEN MENTIONED TODAY. IT'S THE PROPERTY'S WITHIN THE I 10 EAST PERIMETER PLAN. AND THIS IS TAKEN OUT OF THE PLAN. IF YOU LOOK AT THE TWO BULLET POINTS. ONE IS, IT WAS DESIGNED TO ADDRESS HEAVY TRUCKING BUSINESSES THROUGHOUT THE IH 10 QUARTER. UH, THE SECOND BULLET ENHANCE THE DIVERSITY OF LAND USES, UH, MEANING, UH, FREIGHT TRUCKING, TRANSPORT DO NOT DOMINATE THE CORRIDOR. THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. UM, THIS IS THEIR ZONING REQUEST. OVERSIZED VEHICLE EIGHT, UH, SALES, WHICH ARE 18 WHEELERS. SERVICE AND STORAGE. UH, I DON'T HAVE TO TELL YOU WHAT ZONING'S ABOUT, BUT IT, IT OCCURRED TO ME THIS MORNING THAT WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? AND THE SECOND BULLET, IT PREVENTS IN INCOMPATIBILITY OF ADJACENT LAND USES. AND THAT'S WHAT THIS CASE IS ABOUT. THE INCOMPATIBILITY OF AN ADJACENT LAND USE. YOU REALLY HAVEN'T SEEN THESE PHOTOS. THESE ARE AERIALS, CURRENT AERIALS. YOU SEE THE 35 ACRE TRACT SURROUNDED BY HOUSES. AND THEN THE, AT THE TOP OF THE SCREEN, THE, UM, PALOMA LUXURY APARTMENTS. AND HERE'S ANOTHER VIEW OF, OF THE 1,344 HOUSES THAT LIVE IN THIS SUBDIVISION. HERE'S THE ZONING MAP YOU'VE SEEN. IT WAS A THOUGHTFUL ZONING WHEN IT WAS DONE. C TWO ALONG THE EXPRESSWAY, NP 10, WHICH IS SINGLE FAMILY, ESSENTIALLY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. AND THEN THE OCL OUTTA CITY LIMITS. TO THE LEFT, YOU SEE AN I ONE ZONING. THAT'S THE, UH, DOGG AT OTHER SITE. YOU DIDN'T HEAR THAT EARLIER, BUT THEY'VE ALREADY GOT A SITE ZONED AND THEY'VE TOLD THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IF THIS ZONING FAILS, THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE GOING. YOU HEARD ONE OF THE SPEAKERS SAY, FINE, GO THERE. YOU'RE NOT IMPACTING THE HOMES AS MUCH. AND THIS SHOWS LOT A WHERE THEY'RE ATTEMPTING TO REZONE IN LOT B, WHICH THEY ALREADY OWNED AND IS ALREADY ZONED. UM, ONE THING YOU HAVEN'T SEEN, YOU SAW DOGGETT SIGHT IN HOUSTON. WHAT ABOUT THEIR SITE TWO MILES AWAY? THIS IS THEIR SITE AND IT, IT DOES LOOK SOMEWHAT LIKE A JUNKYARD. THAT IS THE TYPE OF NEIGHBOR THEY'RE GONNA BE. AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT DID IT PROMOTE? THE SAME KIND OF USES ALL AROUND IT. THIS IS A CLOSEUP, IT DOES LOOK LIKE A JUNKYARD IN THE MIDDLE. THIS IS THE, AGAIN, THE KIND OF NEIGHBOR THEY ARE. I'LL GO QUICKLY THROUGH THESE SITES, SEWING THESE TRUCKS. NOW THEY TALK ABOUT BUFFERS OF 25 OR 45 FEET. YOU'RE SITTING ABOUT 45 FEET FROM THOSE BACK DOORS. AND THAT'S WHERE THEY WANNA PUT 743 PARKING SPACES FOR 18 WHEELERS. HERE'S THIS AND HERE'S THIS. AND THIS IS A BIG AERIAL SHOWING THE SITE. UH, AND IT'S JUST AN EYESORE. THIS IS THE SITE PLANNED, UH, WE SAW EARLIER. AND UH, THE BUILDING IS 160 SOMETHING THOUSAND SQUARE FEET AND LOTS AND LOTS OF PARKING SPACES. NOW THEIR USE IS AN INDUSTRIAL USE IF IT LOOKS LIKE SMELLS LIKE AND ACTS LIKE AN INDUSTRIAL USE. IT IS, THEY CAN CALL IT C TWO WITH A CONDITIONAL ZONING, BUT THEY ARE DOING REPAIRS AND STORAGE OF 18 WHEELERS, INCLUDING SALES. NOW, AGAIN, I'M GONNA SHOW YOU THAT AERIAL AND, UM, UH, THIS IS BEFORE AND WE DID A ADMITTEDLY A TERRIBLE JOB OF SUPERIMPOSING THEIR EXISTING FACILITY ON THAT SITE. NOW, TO BE FAIR TO THEM, WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T PUT THE DRAINAGE AREA, WE DIDN'T PUT THE, THE BUFFERS AND WE JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU THE TYPE OF USE THAT THEY WANNA PUT NEXT TO THESE HOUSES. UM, THEIR USE IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. CLEARLY. I DON'T THINK THERE'S REALLY ANY ARGUMENT ABOUT THAT. IT'S NOT COMPATIBLE, WHICH IS WHAT ZONING'S ABOUT WITH THE, THE WHOLE AREA. AND SO THE QUESTION IS THEN WOULD YOU WANT THIS NEXT TO YOU? I THINK NOT. I WOULD NOT. AND, UH, [01:40:01] THEY DON'T APPEAR TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR. THEY MENTIONED THAT THEY'VE HAD ALL THESE MEETINGS TO, UM, AND OUTTA ALL THAT, THEY'VE GOT FIVE PEOPLE TO SEND IN NOTICES IN FAVOR AND 21 AGAINST WITHIN 200 FEET. HOW MANY NOTICES DID THEY RECEIVE FROM THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD OPPOSED OVER 200. SO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS, IS DISTURBED, SCARED. THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE VALUE OF THEIR HOMES, THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT TRAFFIC AND ALL THESE OTHER THINGS. SO WITH THAT, UM, I WOULD JUST SAY I'M GONNA GIVE SOME TIME BACK. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR AFTER THE REBUTTAL IF YOU'D LIKE TO ASK MORE QUESTIONS. BUT IT'S JUST WRONG. WHEN THIS ZONING WAS DONE, THERE WAS BUFFERS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS HAS TAKEN AWAY THE BUFFERS. UH, THAT PLAN PERIMETER PLAN WAS APPROVED IN 2002, I BELIEVE. AND IT WAS WITH HUNDREDS OF HOURS OF INPUT FROM THE EAST SIDE COMMUNITY AND LOTS OF PROFESSIONALS THAT SERVED ON THOSE COMMITTEES. AND THEY SAID, WE DO NOT WANT MORE TRUCK USES ON I 10. IF YOU GO OUT I 10 TOWARDS HOUSTON, BETWEEN FOUR 10 AND 1604, IT IS NOTHING BUT 18 WHEEL SALES, REPAIRS AND STORAGE. AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT LOOKS TERRIBLE. SO I'D ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THE NEIGHBORHOODS THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S CONCERNS I'D ASK YOU TO CONSIDER. HOW WOULD YOU FEEL ABOUT IT? THERE WERE A COUPLE CASES ON THE AGENDA TODAY THAT TALKED ABOUT, I'M NOT DOING 18 WHEELERS. HERE'S GONNA BE 748 OF THEM THAT THE PEOPLE ARE GONNA SEE OUT OF THEIR BACK DOOR. SO WITH THAT, I'D REALLY URGE YOU TO DENY THEIR REQUEST AND, UH, SUPPORT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE MR. BRIAN GREECE, I BELIEVE, OR GRU WITH ENVISION. AND THEN HE WILL BE FOLLOWED BY MR. MICHAEL FANELLI WITH ROSEWOOD DENTAL. UH, GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS BRIAN GRUIS. UH, 4 3 9 8 VASQUEZ CIRCLE. UH, I AM A PART OF THE APARTMENT DEVELOPMENT THERE AND I THINK THERE'S BEEN A LOT SAID IN REGARDS TO, FOR MR. BROWN IN REGARDS TO THE ZONING AND WHAT THEIR INTENT IS WITHIN ZONING. UM, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO KEEP IN MIND WHAT THEIR OVERALL INTENT IS. UM, AND THAT'S WHAT MR. BILL KAUFMAN SPOKE TO, AND THAT'S A TRUCK SALES AND SERVICE. AS A DEVELOPER, I'M VERY MINDFUL OF HOW THINGS GET DEVELOPED. USE NEIGHBORS, IT ALL MATTERS. THIS IS THE EXACT WRONG USE FOR THIS AREA. THEY HAVE LAND RIGHT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THEY CAN BUILD THIS ON. GO FOR IT. WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. BUT ATTEMPTING TO REZONE THIS FOR THEIR INTENT IS NOT WHAT YOU SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON. FOCUS ON WHAT THEY'RE GONNA BUILD THERE. AND THAT IS NOT THE RIGHT USE FOR THIS POSITION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, NEXT, I'M SORRY. WE WILL HAVE, UH, SCOTT HARDWICK AND AFTER MR. HARDWICK, UM, WILL BE FOLLOWED BY MS. CLAUDIA IERS. COMMISSIONERS. UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, SCOTT HARDWICK. I'M A HOMEOWNER. MY PROPERTY ABUTS, UH, DIRECTLY, UH, BEHIND, UH, THAT SUBJECT PROPERTY IS DIRECTLY BEHIND MY PROPERTY. I'M OPPOSED TO THIS, UM, DEVELOPMENT AND I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO VOTE NO. AND IT'S SPECIFIC TO THE CONDITIONAL USE AS IT'S BEEN SAID. IT'S A COMPLETE CONTRADICTION TO, UH, COMMERCIAL, COMMUNITY, COMMERCIAL, ALL THESE TERMS THAT ARE NOT SYMBIO, THAT ARE SYMBIOTIC WITH A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS INDUSTRIAL USE IS NOT. UM, I HAVE CONCERN, I'VE LIVED THERE SIX YEARS. UM, WE GO TO I 35 AND AND 1604 TO SHOP, UH, THE FORUM AREA, HEB. ALL OUR SHOPPING IS IN THAT AREA. OR WE GO TO LAVERNE AT HEB. THERE'S NO SHOPPING FOR THESE RESIDENTS HERE. AND THERE'S THOUSANDS OF HOMES BEING BUILT. SO THIS IS PRIME PROPERTY THAT CAN BE USED FOR THE RIGHT PURPOSE FOR THE RESIDENTS IN THIS AREA. AND IT CAN BE DEVELOPED JUST AS NICELY AS 2 81 AND 1604 I 35 AND 1604. AND NOT JUST A CONTINUATION OF A PRIVATE BUSINESS THAT LITERALLY IS WALLING OFF THE RESIDENTS THAT IT'S, IT'S A BUDDING TOO. SO, UM, MY PROPERTY HAS A SIX FOOT CEDAR FENCE. UM, I'VE WENT TO THE MEETING THEY HAD ON THEIR PROPERTY. THE, THE LANGUAGE I RECEIVED WAS THEY DO NOT WANT A GAP BETWEEN OUR PROPERTY LINE AND THEIR PROPERTY LINE. SO THEY'RE GONNA PUT THEIR EIGHT FOOT CENTER BLOCK FENCE DIRECTLY AGAINST OURS. UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY DON'T TEAR OUT TREES AND FOLIAGE TO DO THAT BECAUSE I HAVE TREES AND FOLIAGE DIRECTLY BEHIND MY FENCE. AND, UH, THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE TORN OUT TO PUT A EIGHT FOOT CENTER BLOCK FENCE. NOT TO MENTION ALL MY WATER DRAINS THROUGH THE BACK OF MY [01:45:01] PROPERTY AND ALL OF THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. SO, UH, AGAIN, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO, UH, OPPOSE THIS, THE CONDITIONAL USE AND WITH THE HOUSTON EXAMPLE, UM, IN MY OPINION, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE ZONING HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE MS, UM, CLAUDIA IERS, AND THEN OH, AND SHE WILL BE FOLLOWED BY MS. VICTORIA HINOJOSA. HI, IT'S 1 0 6 3 5 DEACONS HOLLOW WAY. I LIVE MORE THAN A COUPLE BLOCKS. MY FIRST PROBLEM IS THERE IS NO OFFSET, THERE IS NO BACK SET. I DON'T KNOW WHAT Y'ALL ARE TALKING ABOUT. THEY HAVE SHOWN US BEFORE, THEY'RE PARKING RIGHT UP AGAINST THEM. SCOTT'S LAND'S GONNA FLOOD. UM, WE ALREADY HAVE FLOODING ISSUES, SAN ANTONIO DOES. UM, YOUR MEETINGS WERE A JOKE. YOU CAME UNPREPARED. YOUR GUY TRIED TO FIGHT ME ANYWAYS, THAT WAS FUN. AND UH, NO, YOU GUYS ALREADY HAVE OTHER PROPERTY DO THAT. I DON'T WANT THESE 18 WHEELERS ALREADY COMING THROUGH BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET AROUND THE TRAFFIC BECAUSE OF CONSTRUCTION, WHICH WE ALL KNOW WILL TAKE ANOTHER FIVE YEARS GOING DOWN OUR PARK. WE ARE A WALKING COMMUNITY. WE ACTUALLY HAVE KIDS GOING TO THE PARK IN GROUPS. WE HAVE BIKES, WE HAVE A COMMUNITY. WE NEED MORE FOR THAT. WE, SORRY, WE ACTUALLY NEED SOME HELP WITH THAT. THIS WIL TORITO, THIS AREA. YOU ALREADY HAVE AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL GOING ON RIGHT BEHIND. YOU'RE ASKING FOR MORE TRAFFIC, MORE PROBLEMS. DON'T DO THIS. DON'T LET THEM DESTROY WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO BUILD. WE'VE GOT SIX OTHER SUBDIVISIONS GOING IN, TRYING THEIR HARDEST TO ACTUALLY BE A COMMUNITY, WALKING BUSINESSES. SOMETHING. UM, YEAH. AND DON'T MAKE US AN OSHA SITE. THEY'VE ALREADY GOT ONE. THANKS. THANK YOU. UM, NEXT WE HAVE MS. VICTORIA HINOJOSA. AND AFTER HER WE'LL BE FOLLOWED BY MS. DEBORAH. UH, YES, MS. GIMME MY TIME UP TO MS. I WAS ACTUALLY MY TIME UP TO TIFFANY. TIFFANY. OKAY. TIFFANY, IF YOU WANNA COME UP AND YOU'LL HAVE FOUR MINUTES. GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSION. MY NAME IS TIFFANY ESCAMILLA AND I'M THE PROPERTY MANAGER REPRESENTING PALOMA LUXURY APARTMENTS AT 43 8 98 WEST VASQUEZ CIRCLE. UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. SOMETHING THAT MR. BROWN FAILED TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF OUR APARTMENTS IS WE ARE AT ABOUT A 25 TO 30 FOOT INCLINE FROM THEIR PROPERTY LINE. SO OUR THIRD FLOOR APARTMENTS WILL BE LOOKING DIRECTLY INTO THEIR JUNKYARD. THEIR CURRENT FACILITY HAS ABOUT 150 EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE ALLOWED THEIR CURRENT FACILITY TO BECOME A JUNKYARD. ALL OF THOSE EMPLOYEES ARE GONNA BE GOING TO THIS NEW SITE. THEY ARE NOT GONNA HAVE THIS BEAUTIFUL FACILITY. NOT ONLY THAT, THEIR NEIGHBOR TO THEIR CURRENT FACILITY, RUSH ENTERPRISES A COUPLE YEARS AGO HAD A MASSIVE FIRE. THERE'S GONNA BE OIL ON THIS LOT ABUTTING 1,344 HOMES. THIS IS NOT GOOD. AND WE ASK THAT YOU TURN DOWN THE ZONING PLAN. THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE MS. DEBRA DOGE. HELLO, MY NAME IS DEBORAH DEY AND I LIVE AT 1 0 6 18 FRANCISCO WAY. UM, I OPPOSE THE DOGGETT COMING INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND, UM, I DRIVE FROM WORK EVERY DAY PASSING THEIR CURRENT FACILITY AND I CRY THINKING THAT THAT'S GONNA BE WHAT I HAVE TO DRIVE INTO EVERY SINGLE DAY. I WAS AT THE MEETING, THE VERY FIRST MEETING THAT HE SPOKE OF, UH, AND YES, IT WAS RIDICULOUS. AND THE QUESTION WAS ASKED, WOULD YOU WANT IT IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD? AND HE ANSWERED NO. SO I'M ASKING YOU GUYS, PLEASE DO NOT VOTE FOR THIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, NEXT WE HAVE MR. WARREN MACK TO BE FOLLOWED BY MS. SANDRA MACK. YOU'RE GIVING UP YOUR TIME TO HIM. OKAY, SO MR. M YOU'LL HAVE FOUR MINUTES. ACTUALLY, IT'S DR. MACK, BUT THAT'S OKAY. I'LL TAKE, UH, I'LL TAKE ANYTHING. UH, I'VE LIVED THERE FOR FOUR YEARS AND I HATE TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN MY FRONT YARD. [01:50:01] LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE HAS SAID. IT IS NOT BENEFICIAL TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE NEED SOMETHING THAT'S BENEFICIAL. 18 WHEELER REPAIR FACILITY IS NOT, UM, BENEFICIAL. SO I WOULD LIKE YOU GUYS TO PLEASE, PLEASE THINK ABOUT, AS EVERYBODY HAS SAID, WHAT WOULD THIS BE LIKE OUT IN YOUR FRONT YARD AND PLEASE VOTE NO FOR THIS. THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE MS. MONICA KPA TO BE FOLLOWED BY MS. REBECCA PAINTER. GOOD AFTERNOON. I LIVE AT 4 3 0 7 WEST VASQUEZ CIRCLE, WHICH IS A BUDDING, THE PROPOSED ZONING. UM, AS A DAUGHTER OF A FORMER CITY ADMINISTRATOR WHO IS A KEY PLAYER IN BRINGING THE FORUM SHOPPING CENTER, OUR BFCU HEADQUARTERS AND IKEA, ALONG WITH A AN 18 HOLE DISC GOLF COURSE TO HIS SMALL CITY RIGHT OUTSIDE OF SAN ANTONIO. UM, I GREW UP WITH RESPONSIBLE ZONING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BEING A PART OF OUR DINNER DISCUSSIONS WITH THE PROPOSED REZONING OF THE PARCEL OF LAND ABUTTING MY BACKYARD. I HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHAT IS THIS KIND OF A BUSINESS GOING TO BRING TO MY COMMUNITY. I WAS ACTUALLY THE PERSON WHO ASKED THE ATTORNEY AT THEIR FIRST MEETING, WOULD YOU WANT THIS IN YOUR BACKYARD? AND HE SAID, NO, I CAN'T THINK OF A SINGLE THING THAT A DIESEL FREIGHT LINER SALES AND REPAIR SHOP WOULD BRING TO OUR COMMUNITY. I ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO THE REALTOR THAT REPRESENTED US WHEN WE BOUGHT OUR HOME TWO YEARS AGO. SHE WORKS FOR COLDWELL BANKER DEANNE HARPER HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. I ASKED HER TO PLEASE FIND SOME COMPARABLE SALES FOR ME WITH REGARDS TO A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS ABUTTING A DIESEL SALES DEALERSHIP. SHE FOUND ZERO. THERE'S NOT A SINGLE NEIGHBORHOOD SITUATION LIKE THIS IN SAN ANTONIO THAT SHE COULD GIVE ME COMPARABLE PROPERTIES. I DROVE THE I 10 TO HARPER, TEXAS. I DIDN'T SEE A SINGLE PROPERTY THAT WAS A FREIGHT LINER WITH A NEIGHBORHOOD BEHIND IT. PLEASE DO NOT VOTE IN FAVOR FOR THIS. THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE MS. REBECCA PAINTER TO BE FOLLOWED BY MR. MICHAEL MIRANDA. HELLO. I AM A GRANDMA AND WHEN I GO OUT IN MY BACKYARD WITH MY KIDS, MY GRANDKIDS, IT REALLY SHOULD BE A PLACE THAT I CAN RELAX AND ENJOY MY FAMILY. AND HAVING DIESEL TRUCKS BEHIND MY FENCE WOULD NOT MAKE IT. SO I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO THINK I, ONE OF THE STATISTICS THAT THE ATTORNEY GAVE WAS THAT THERE'S MORE TRAFFIC IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAN WOULD EVER COME OUT OF THAT UH, FACILITY. YOU KNOW WHAT, THAT MIGHT BE TRUE. I DON'T KNOW. BUT THE TRAFFIC IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ARE CARS AND PICKUP TRUCKS. THEY'RE NOT DIESEL TRUCKS. SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE PERCENTAGE OF THIS AS OPPOSED TO THAT, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE DIESEL TRUCKS? I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU MAKE IT MUCH MORE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD FRIENDLY FOR THAT PARTICULAR AREA. THANK YOU, MA'AM. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. OH, I'M SORRY. I'M REBECCA PAINTER. I'M ON VA VAS SCALES. THANK YOU. NEXT, UH, MR. MICHAEL MIRANDA TO BE FOLLOWED BY MR. UH, PORTER ROBINSON. HELLO. HOW ARE YOU DOING? UH, MY NAME'S MICHAEL MIRANDA. I LIVE AT 1 0 7 5 0 FRANCISCO WAY. [01:55:01] UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I, I LOOKED AT THE PRESENTATION AND I TRY TO BE A LITTLE UNBIASED 'CAUSE I UNDERSTAND HOW, YOU KNOW, BRINGING SOME SORT OF ECONOMIC VALUE, UH, TO, TO THE AREA. YOU KNOW, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR HOMEOWNERS AND EVERYTHING. ONE OF THE THINGS IS, UM, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF UNNECESSARY TRAFFIC. AND LIKE SHE SAID, UM, THE UNNECESSARY TRAFFIC. I MEAN, IT MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, CARS AND CARS AND TRUCKS, BUT WE WON'T HAVE 18 WHEELERS BACKING UP ALREADY. ALREADY. THERE'S ALREADY TRAFFIC BACKED UP BECAUSE OF THE CONSTRUCTION. AND, AND THEN NOT ONLY THAT, BUT HOW, HOW ARE THOSE, HOW, HOW IS THIS CONSTRUCTION AREA GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO BE MAINTAINED WITH THESE BIG GIANT 18 WHEELERS. NOW THEY ALREADY HAVE A PROPOSED SITE, WHICH IS A COUPLE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WHAT QUARTER MILE AWAY. UM, AND SO I MEAN, THAT COULD BE USED AND NOBODY'S OPPOSED TO THAT. ONE OF THE THINGS TOO THAT I DID SEE THAT HE, HE, UH, POSTED A PICTURE. SHE SAID, YOU KNOW, UH, UM, THE PROPERTY MANAGER ALSO SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE, IT'S A SLOPE. BUT IF, IF I COULD SHOW YOU A PICTURE RIGHT HERE, UM, FROM, FROM THE ANGLE RIGHT HERE, FROM THE ANGLE RIGHT HERE. IF YOU'RE CLOSE UP, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SEE. IT'S PRETTY DIS IT WAS, IT'S A PRETTY DISINGENUOUS ANGLE ON WHERE THAT PICTURE WAS TO SAY THAT, HEY, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SEE SOME OF THESE THINGS. AND THIS IS AN ANGLE FROM RIGHT HERE KIND OF POPPING UP RIGHT BEHIND THE CHAIR TO TRY TO SEE YOU GUYS THERE. THAT THOSE TREES ARE NOT GONNA BE BLOCKING THE, THE, THE VISIBILITY OF THE, THAT AREA. YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? THE, THE, THE PICTURE THAT HE TOOK FROM THE, FROM THE, FROM THE ANGLE FROM THE VEGETATION SHOULD HAVE BEEN BACK A LITTLE BIT FURTHER. AND YOU SHOULD PROBABLY HAVE SOME SORT OF, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW TALL THAT THOSE TREES ARE AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. UM, AND SO, YEAH, I MEAN, I, I JUST THINK THAT IT, IT CAN ALREADY BE, YOU KNOW, THAT THE, THE WHAT'S ALREADY ZONED IS VERY APPROPRIATE FOR WHAT IT WHAT IT IS. THANK YOU. UM, NEXT WE HAVE PORTER ROBINSON TO BE FOLLOWED BY SONYA COLLINS. I, I DRAW THE COMMENTS. OKAY. UM, NEXT, UH, MS. SONYA COLLINS TO BE FOLLOWED BY JORDAN WEISS. COLLINS PASSES. OKAY. UM, JORDAN WEISS. HI, MY NAME IS JORDAN WEIS. I AM A PROPERTY OWNER AT 1 0 8 0 2 MARGARITA LOOP. UM, I AM IN TOTAL OPPOSITION OF BUILDING DOGGETT FREIGHTLINER IN OUR BACKYARDS. THIS IS OUR COMMUNITY. I JUST ASK THAT YOU THINK ABOUT IF THIS WAS IN YOUR YARD. UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE REASONS WE MOVED HERE IS FOR COMMUNITY. I REALLY DON'T FEEL THAT DOGGETT FREIGHTLINER SERVES, UM, OUR COMMUNITY WELL WITH THIS LOCATION CONSIDERING THEIR CURRENT LOCATION. UM, AND THE MAINTENANCE OF IT HAS BEEN VERY POOR. I DON'T KNOW THAT, UM, WE CAN TRUST THAT IT WOULD BE ANY DIFFERENT NEAR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I JUST AGAIN, ASK THAT YOU THINK ABOUT, UM, IF THIS WERE YOUR BACKYARD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT WE HAVE, UM, MR. DAVID SUAREZ TO BE FOLLOWED BY MS. KELLY ASHCROFT. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS DAVID SUAREZ. I AM MAINTENANCE DIRECTOR AT 43 98 VASQUEZ CIRCLE, BUT I'M A LUXURY APARTMENT. I THINK EV EVERYTHING HAS BEEN MENTIONED AS FAR AS IT GOES TO THE, THE COMMUNITY SURROUNDING THE AREA AND EVERYTHING. I THINK WHAT'S BEING MISLED OR, YOU KNOW, NOT SAID IS I HAVE A FAMILY RANCH, UM, DOWN ON ABBOTT ROAD. IT'S AN ENTRY POINT, YOU KNOW, COMING DOWN FROM THE CITY, WHICH IS, I ALWAYS TAKE THAT ROAD EVEN BEFORE I WORKED THERE. UM, MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS THAT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH, UM, YOU KNOW, BENEFICIAL SHOPPING CENTERS AS, AS, AS REGARDING TO, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A TRACTOR SUPPLY, NOT, NOT FAR OR PRETTY FAR FROM THERE, BUT, UM, AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, LIKE SAY A LOWE'S OR A HOME DEPOT, ANYTHING THAT THE RANCHERS NEED AROUND THAT AREA, IT, THEY HAVE TO DRIVE PRETTY FAR. AND I THINK THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT'S BEING SAID ENOUGH. THERE IS, UH, SURROUNDING RANCHES THERE THAT HAVE TO GO OUT OF THEIR WAY JUST TO, YOU KNOW, GO GET THEIR SUPPLIES OR, OR HAVE TO GO THROUGH 1604 AND I 10. UM, I JUST THINK IT ALL AROUND IT, IT DOESN'T BENEFIT THE AREA. THANK YOU. AND THEN MS. KELLY ASHCROFT. KELLY ASHCROFT. [02:00:01] . ALL RIGHT. AND THAT IS IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. ALRIGHT. UM, DO YOU WANT A REBUTTAL FIRST AND THEN BREAK OR, ALRIGHT. UH, MR. BROWN, YOU'D LIKE A SHORT REBUTTAL? UM, EVERY TIME I'VE EVER BEEN ASKED IF I WOULD WANT THIS IN MY BACKYARD, I SAY THE EXACT THING, EXACT SAME THING EVERY, EVERY SINGLE TIME FOR 30 YEARS. AND THAT IS, I WOULD RATHER BE WORKING WITH SOMEBODY THAN HAVING A ZONING CATEGORY THAT I HAD NO CONTROL OVER. I WOULD RATHER HAVE SOME CONTROL AND SOMEBODY TO DEAL WITH. UM, NOW WHAT ANDRE MAY HAVE SAID, I DON'T REMEMBER. I MEAN, HE, HE WAS CONFUSED AND HE, HE SAID A LOT OF THINGS AND IT WAS A LOT OF CONFUSION. BUT I'VE BEEN ASKED THAT QUESTION A THOUSAND TIMES AND I SAY THE SAME ANSWER EVERY SINGLE TIME. UM, I THINK ONCE AGAIN, I'LL JUST GO THROUGH REAL QUICK. WE'RE, WE'RE LESS TRAFFIC. UM, WE'RE HIGHER BUFFERS, UH, . I AM NOT STEVEN SPIELBERG. OKAY. WE WERE TRYING TO DRIVE THAT FENCE LINE IN A TRUCK. THOSE, THOSE TREES ARE 35, 30 TO 35 FEET HIGH. UH, THEY JUST ARE. AND, AND THEY'RE ON THERE. PICTURES ARE RIGHT THERE. JUST, JUST GRAB 'EM. UH, THE WALL CAN BE BUILT, UH, TO PROVIDE THE BUFFER. UH, THE SITE WILL BE SECURE. THE, THE ENTIRE SITE WILL BE SECURE. UM, YEAH, I AM FRUSTRATED. UM, WE'VE BEEN AT THIS A YEAR AND THEY KEEP SAYING 18 WHEELERS AND EVERY TIME WE TELL 'EM THERE ARE NO 18 WHEELERS INVOLVED. I KNOW BILL HADN'T BEEN AT ANY OF THE MEETINGS, SO HE CAN'T, HE CAN'T, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, HE, HE DIDN'T KNOW MAYBE WITH THE WHOLE PRESENTATION, THERE ARE NO TRAILERS INVOLVED. IT IS THE RIG AND THEY ARE INSIDE. THEY'RE BEING WORKED ON INSIDE. THE BUILDINGS ARE OVER 300 FEET AWAY. UH, THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT YOU WOULD WANT. I, I GET IT. WE DO NOT WANT DOG AT FREIGHT LINER. UH, IT SEEMED PRETTY ROBOTIC. UM, I GET IT. THEY DON'T WANT IT. THERE'S, THERE'S, UM, IT'S A, IT'S A DEAL AGAINST THIS PARTICULAR USE. WE DO HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE SITE. IT'S 10 ACRES LESS. IT'S CLOSER TO 1604. IT'S GOING TO BE A NIGHTMARE FOR TRAFFIC. OKAY. THAT'S WHERE IT, YOU'RE RIGHT, THAT'S WHERE IT WILL GO. OKAY. AND IF THAT'S WHAT YOU GUYS THINK IS THE BETTER IDEA, THEN REZONE MY PROPERTY TO C TWO BECAUSE MY PROPERTY, THE PLAN AMENDMENT WAS AMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. AND YOU'VE GOT A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT'S OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS THAT HAS NO ZONING. SO GIVE ME THE APPROPRIATE ZONING. THEY'VE ALL SAID THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT. SO I'LL GIVE IT TO 'EM. 'CAUSE 18 WHEELERS WILL BE ON THE BACK OF BACKSIDE OF, UH, GROCERY STORES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. UH, THEY WON'T HAVE AN EIGHT FOOT WALL. THEY WON'T HAVE THE SETBACKS. THOSE BUILDINGS WILL BE WITHIN 35 FEET. NOBODY WANTS TO LISTEN. IT'S ALWAYS, IT'S ALWAYS FUNNER TO GO UP AGAINST DOGGETT FREIGHTLINER OR, OR SOMETHING LIKE US. UH, I, I JUST, I DON'T CARE IF IF THEY'RE OPPOSED TO IT, BUT NOBODY LISTENED. I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S 18 WHEELERS GOING IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. WHAT, WHO WOULD DRIVE AN 18 WHEELER IN A NEIGHBORHOOD? BUT THAT'S WHAT WE GET. WE'RE THE BAD GUYS. YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE JUST HORRIBLE. SO WHAT I'M ASKING IS, IF YOU WANT IT TO BE RIGHT ACROSS WCO ROAD, TAKING 18 WHEELER ACCESS ON WCO ROAD OUT TO OUT TO THE, UM, ACCESS ROAD, THEN THAT'S WHERE IT'LL BE. THAT'S FINE. THEN, THEN WE DESERVE AN, AN APPROPRIATE ZONING CLASSIFICATION ON OUR PROPERTY, WHICH IS 36 ACRES. NP 10 IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE CATEGORY ON THAT PROPERTY. AND OUTSIDE CITY LIMITS IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE CATEGORY ON THAT PROPERTY. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FACTS THAT WE PRESENTED, I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER 'EM. IF YOU WANT ME TO WILDLY SPECULATE ABOUT WHAT, WHAT COULD GO WRONG, I CAN DO THAT TOO. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UM, WE ARE GONNA RECLAIM SOME OF, UH, COMMISSIONER BOTS WHO'S, UH, 10 MINUTE SAVINGS OF TIME EARLIER IN THIS DAY AND, AND TAKE A QUICK BREAK. UM, SO THE ZONING COMMISSION WILL RECONVENE IN ABOUT 10 MINUTES. IT IS THREE 13. THANK YOU. BE RIGHT BACK. ALRIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE WILL RETURN TO OUR ZONING COMMISSION MEETING. TIME IS 3 25 AND THIS IS A DISTRICT TWO CASE, BUT, UM, COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE WILL BE HANDLING QUESTIONS [02:05:01] FOR THIS ONE OR HANDLING THIS CASE SO TO YOU. COMMISSIONER BUS MONTE. THANK YOU MA. UH, THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. UM, EVEN JUST FOR THE PUBLIC'S INFORMATION, UM, BECAUSE, UH, COMMISSIONER WATSON WAS UNABLE TO ATTEND TODAY, SHE ASKED THAT I HANDLE THIS CASE FOR HER. UM, SO I GUESS FIRST, AND THIS CAN BE TO EITHER MR. KAUFMAN OR MR. BROWN, WHOEVER CAN ANSWER THIS QUESTION, UM, WOLD APPEARS TO BE, UM, TURN A CORNER THERE, UH, RIGHT OUTSIDE OF ACTUALLY THE SECOND PROPOSED SITE. IS THAT TRUE OR NOT? BECAUSE I HAVE TWO DIFFERENT MAPS. I HAVE GOOGLE MAPS THAT SAYS THERE'S A DEAD END AND I CAN'T GESTURE. UM, AND WOLD SORT OF MAKES AN L THERE NEAR THE PALOMA. UH, THE ONE STOP INDICATES THAT'S AN UN ZONE RIGHT OF WAY. CAN ANYONE GIVE ME INFORMATION AS TO WHICH IT IS OFF HAND? RIGHT? I MEAN, THE SATELLITE LOOKS LIKE IT AND, AND THE SATELLITE LOOKS LIKE IT IS IN FACT CONNECTED. AND YOU COULD GO THROUGH FROM 1604 AND TELL YOU WHAT ANY OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS, IF Y'ALL KNOW IT DOES. NO. SO IF YOU'RE COMING FROM 1604 AND IT DOESN'T GO THROUGH ON WHITE, IT DOESN'T GO THROUGH ON MICHAELS. OKAY. THANK YOU. RIGHT NOW. ALRIGHT. UM, ALRIGHT, MR. BROWN, THE NEXT QUESTION IS TO YOU, IF I MAY, UH, IF YOU WOULD, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT CONDITIONS YOU ARE, UH, ABLE TO AGREE TO, UM, WITH THE CURRENT PROPOSED SITE PLAN THAT YOU HAVE THERE? SO, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, DO YOU HAVE, UM, YEAH, SOME OF THEM WILL BE ON THE, ON THE SITE PLAN THEMSELVES. SOMEONE WILL BE IN THE, IN THE, IN A COVENANT, WHICH YOU DON'T WANNA TALK ABOUT. BUT, UM, SO, UM, THE LIST THAT WE GAVE TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER'S OFFICE, AND I, I THINK IT WAS IN YOUR BACKUP MATERIAL, BUT I'LL GO THROUGH IT, UM, IF YOU WOULD, AND MAYBE THAT'S WHERE THE CONFUSION IS WHEN IT SAYS, FIRST OF ALL, NO 18 WHEELERS ON WACKO ROAD. UH, WE DON'T HAVE THE TRAILERS. UH, IT IS JUST THE RIG ITSELF. MM-HMM. . BUT WE, NO TRUCKS WILL FROM OUR, OUR SITE WILL GO ON WL ROAD. THE ONLY ACCESS OFF OF WL ROAD TO OUR SITE WILL BE FOR EMPLOYEES. UH, THE BUFFERS. UM, THE CODE REQUIRES 15 FEET, UH, ALONG THE SOUTHEAST AND SOUTHWEST WILL HAVE, UH, 25 FEET ON THE SOUTHWEST AND 40 FEET, UH, ON THE SOUTHEAST. THAT IS A BUFFER. OKAY. THAT THERE, IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE ARE BUILDING SETBACKS AND, AND MR. BROWN, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY A BUFFER? BUFFER IS NATURAL, UH, BUT ENHANCED, UH, WE WILL BE, UM, LANDSCAPING AND FILLING IN THE AREAS OF THAT TREE LINE THAT ARE NOT COMPLETE. OKAY. UM, AND HOURS OF OPERATION IS ANOTHER CON CAN I GO DOWN THIS? YEP, THAT'S FINE. SO THE SOLID FENCE IS MM-HMM. , UM, NOT A CINDER BLOCK. UH, , UH, IT'S, IT IS, UM, A FENCE THAT WE HAD SHOWED TO THEM, BUT IT IS EIGHT FEET. UH, I BELIEVE IF WE CAN PUT MEN ON THE MOON, I THINK WE CAN PUT THAT, UH, FENCE EITHER UP AGAINST THEIR FENCE OR REPLACE THEIR FENCE. SO THERE'S ONLY ONE FENCE. WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO SAY IS WE DON'T WANT A GAP. WE DON'T WANT A GAP BETWEEN OUR FENCE. SO TO PROTECT THE TREES, WE MOVE IT ON THIS SIDE OF THE TREES AND THEN THERE'S 10, 15 FEET BETWEEN THE FENCES. I THINK WE CAN PUT IT ON THE PROPERTY LINE, UH, AND MAINTAIN SURE THERE'LL BE SOME UNDERBRUSH OR UNDERCOVER. BUT, UH, BUT MAINTAIN THE LARGER TREES FOR SCREENING. AND, AND THE REASON BEHIND SORT OF PUTTING THE FENCE ON THE PROPERTY LINE IS IF YOU LEAVE A GAP, UH, I THINK WE'VE SEEN YEAH. THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT PEOPLE TEND TO CONGREGATE THERE. YEAH. KIDS DO THINGS, YOU KNOW. YEAH. SO WHETHER IT'S KIDS OR HOMELESS . YEAH. UM, SO THE NEXT ONE IS THE LIGHTING, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, UH, IT'S DOWNWARD, UH, IT'S NIGHT SKY. UM, BUT THE O THE OPERATING HOURS, UH, ONCE AGAIN, I THINK IT'S IN THIS SHEET. WE HAVE REGULAR OPERATE OPERATING HOURS FROM MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, SEVEN TO EIGHT, UH, SATURDAY, EIGHT TO FIVE, ENCLOSED ON SUNDAYS. UH, BUT THE SITE IS ALWAYS, [02:10:02] UH, SECURE, UH, EITHER WITH THE EIGHT FOOT FENCE ALONG THEIR BOUNCING AND GATES ALONG THE FRONT OF THE ACCESS ROAD. OKAY. AND NOW I KNOW YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN JOKING, BUT I'M NOT. OKAY. SO, UM, YOU'RE NOT ASKING TO AMEND YOUR REQUEST DOWN TO A C TWO, ARE YOU? NO, NO. NO. OKAY. GOOD. . NO, I MEAN, THEY, THEY SEEM TO WANT, UH, YOU KNOW, RETAIL AND, AND, AND, AND OFFICE OR WHATEVER IT IS THERE. AND I, I MEAN, I'VE JUST SEEN IT TOO MANY TIMES THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET THESE TYPE OF HOURS OF OPERATION. UH, AS I SAID IN THE PRESENTATION, WE KNOW WHO'S COMING ON OUR SITE. YOU DON'T KNOW WHO'S COMING TO A GROCERY STORE OR ALL NIGHT GAS STATION OR FILLING STATION OR A CONVENIENCE STORE AND STUFF LIKE THAT. I THINK THE SECURITY OF THE SITE OR OUR SECURITY ON THAT SITE PROTECTS THE VALUES OF THEIR HOME AND PROTECTS, UM, AGAINST CRIME. OKAY. THANK YOU MR. BROWN. YES, SIR. UM, MR. HARDWICK, ARE YOU STILL HERE? I'M OKAY. ALRIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON MR. HARDWICK. HOW ARE YOU? GOOD AFTERNOON. UM, SO YOU LIVE ON FRANCISCO WAY? I DO. ABOUT, IS IT ABOUT HALFWAY DOWN THAT SITE PLAN THERE? YEAH, YEAH. ON THE LEFT. YEAH, IT IS. IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY HALFWAY. I CAN'T TELL WHICH LOT'S MINE, BUT YEAH. OKAY. UM, AND SO I GUESS, YOU KNOW, YOU BROUGHT UP THE EIGHT FOOT FENCE IN YOUR COMMENTS EARLIER, CORRECT? YES, SIR. OKAY. AND, AND THAT 40 FOOT BUFFER DOESN'T HELP OR ALLEVIATE ANY CONCERNS. YOU HAVE 40 FOOT BUFFER, SO, UM, AND I THINK MR. KAUFMAN'S CORRECT, BY THE WAY. I THINK THAT'S BASICALLY FROM HERE TO ABOUT THERE TO THE, THE DOORS. AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN BEFORE THERE'S ACTUAL, UM, REAL PROPERTY OR, SO IT SHOULD BE ANY PARKING OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE. IT SHOULD BE BASICALLY A LANDSCAPE BUFFER. UM, NO, I MEAN IT FIRST OF THE WALL'S JUST GOING TO COVER ALL THAT UP ANYWAY, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, FROM MY BACK PORCH AND MY BACKYARD. MM-HMM. . SO, UM, IT'S UNSIGHTLY, UM, FROM THE GET GO NOISE, UM, UH, AND OTHER TYPES OF THINGS ARE GOING TO CARRY OVER THAT LANDSCAPING, THAT FENCING. UM, AND SO YEAH, THAT, THAT DOESN'T GIVE ME ANY, ANY PARTICULAR SECURITY AT ALL. OKAY. UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S GOING TO BE BACKUP HORNS, UH, OR BACKUP BEEPING. THERE'S GONNA BE HORNS TESTING. UH, THERE'S GONNA BE LARGE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE, UH, IF THEY'RE 18 WHEELERS OR WHAT, BUT THERE'S GONNA BE LARGE ENGINES RUNNING. AND IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN ON THE ROAD BESIDE ONE OF THOSE LARGE ENGINES, THEY'RE NOT QUIET. SO, UM, YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERNS THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT BUFFERING WOULD TAKE CARE OF, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO, TO BEING A PROPERTY OWNER HERE. WELL, AND I, AND I GUESS MR. BROWN'S POINT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, IF THERE WAS IN FACT SAY A STRAIGHT C TWO RIGHT. COMMERCIAL USE OR C3 COMMERCIAL USE, ALTHOUGH C TWO'S THE ONLY THING ALLOWED UNDER THE CURRENT PLAN, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT BUFFER WOULD BE 15 FEET. OKAY. AND SO IT WOULD BE LESS, UM, AND THE CONDITION OF AN EIGHT FOOT WALL WOULDN'T BE THERE. AND SO DOES THAT CHANGE YOUR OPINION AT ALL? IT DOES IN THE SENSE OF WHAT I READ, AND I, THIS IS NOT MY BAILIWICK, BUT WHEN I READ C TWO C TWO AND I SEE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL, THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF BUSINESSES NEEDED IN OUR AREA, UM, FROM RESTAURANTS TO RETAIL TO OFFICE, UH, SMALLER OFFICES. UM, THIS IS AN INDIVIDUAL BUSINESS THAT'S ONLY OPERATING FOR THEMSELVES. THEY'RE NOT THERE FOR THE GENERAL COMMUNITY. IT DOESN'T ADD ANY VIBRANCY TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S WALLED OFF FROM IT. SO, UM, YES, SOMETHING THAT WOULD FALL WITHIN THE, THE COMMERCIAL DE DESIGNATION, UM, CAN BE UTILIZED BY ME, BY MY FAMILY, BY THE REST OF THE RESIDENTS. SO, UM, YOU'RE INTEGRATING WITH THAT SAME PROPERTY THAT YOU'RE LITERALLY PASSING EVERY DAY, WHETHER IT'S ONE ENTRANCE OR ANOTHER ENTRANCE, UM, YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOING BY THAT EVERY SINGLE DAY. UM, SO THANK YOU MR. HARWICK. YOU BET. ALRIGHT. UM, MS. PAINTER, IF YOU WOULD COME UP PLEASE. YES, SIR. GOOD AFTERNOON. HOW ARE YOU? A LITTLE NERVOUS. OH, DON'T BE NERVOUS. . BIG TIME NERVOUS . I HOPE NOT. UM, YOU, YOU AGAIN ARE ALSO ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE, BUT IN THIS CASE YOU'RE, UH, ON VASQUEZ CIRCLE, CORRECT? CORRECT. [02:15:01] OKAY. UM, AND YOU KNOW, SORT OF THE SAME ISSUES, UM, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT YOUR PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE, THEY'RE AGREEING TO A 25 FOOT BUFFER, UH, BETWEEN LANDSCAPE BUFFER BETWEEN YOUR PROPERTY AND WHERE THE RIGS WOULD BE PARKED. DOES THAT CHANGE ANY ANALYSIS ON YOUR PART OR YOUR OPINION AT ALL? I AM JUST, I'M JUST VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE NOISE AND, UM, AND THE TRUCKING TRAFFIC, ET CETERA. THERE'S ALREADY BACKUPS AND SO ON ALONG THE FRONTAGE ROADS, ET CETERA. AND TO ADD MORE TO IT THAT CLOSE TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS A CONCERN TO ME. I DON'T KNOW. I THINK THAT'S FAIR. UM, BUT I APPRECIATE YOU COMING UP AND, AND ANSWERING THESE QUESTIONS. WELL, I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR TIME THAT YOU PUT IN ON THESE COMMISSIONS, ET CETERA, SO I DO. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MA'AM. UM, ALRIGHT. AND ONE THING, THIS IS TO STAFF THAT MR. BROWN MENTIONED, UM, WAS THE FACT THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE IS SORT OF THIS DONUT WITHIN THIS PROPERTY WITHIN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO LIMITS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE ONE STOP MAP, THIS TRIANGULAR SLICE, UH, THAT IS OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS. SO ASSUMING NO ANNEXATION, WHAT CAN BE DONE ON THAT PROPERTY TODAY. SO BASICALLY THERE, THERE WOULD BE NO ZONING. UM, SO IT COULD BE DEVELOPED PRETTY MUCH IN ANY FASHION THAT ANYBODY ELSE, THAT ANYBODY WOULD SEE FIT. SO IT COULD BE WHATEVER THEY SEE, THERE WOULD BE NO CONDITIONAL USES AND THE CITY COULD NOT REGULATE ANYTHING. NO BUILDING ASPECT OF IT, NO, UH, BUFFER. SO IT COULD BE BUILT TO THE, UM, THERE'S NO ZONING IN THE, OUT IN THE COUNTY, SO THE COUNTY IS NOT GONNA ENFORCE ANYTHING EITHER. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UH, AT THIS TIME, MR. CHAIR, I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. UH, QUESTIONS FOR THE COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT. COMMISSIONER WHITSETT, I GUESS THIS IS INITIALLY FOR MR. BROWN, UM, ALONG THE END OF MARGARITA LOOP AND LONG FRANCISCO WAY, THERE'S A SECTION OF MAYBE 40 PARKING SPACES THAT ARE 45 FEET DEEP. UH, THEN IT GOES INTO A BUFFER THAT BECOMES 45 FEET PLUS THE 25, THE 743 PARKING SPACES. IS THAT A MINIMUM THAT Y'ALL HAVE TO HAVE? IS THAT CODE? UM, UM, IT'S PROBABLY BASED OPERATIONALLY, BUT UH, I THINK YOU CAN ELIMINATE THAT AS PART OF A, A RECOMMENDATION. UM, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE, UM, OUR CURRENT LOCATION LOOKS LIKE, UH, WE WANT EVERYTHING TO BE PAVED AND STRIPED AND, AND WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE. BUT THAT IS, I'M ASSUMING THAT IS PROBABLY OVER PARKED AND, UH, I, I'M ASSUMING I AM YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS, THIS LINE OVER HERE, RIGHT? YEAH, YEAH. I, I, YOU KNOW, THOSE, THOSE THAT, THAT CURB WOULD START 45 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE AND UH, WELL IT LOOKS LIKE IT MIGHT BECAUSE THOSE PARKING SPACES ARE 45 FEET DEEP, SO IT LOOKS LIKE YOU MIGHT THEN BE 70 FEET OFF THE PROPERTY LINE. RIGHT. WHICH YOU'VE GOT A 25 FOOT RIGHT BUFFER THERE. I'M JUST WONDERING WHY THEY DID THAT AND WHEN THEY, IF THEY'RE TRYING TO BUFFER THE PROPERTIES, THAT IT WOULD SEEM NATURAL THAT MAYBE THOSE WOULD GO AWAY AS AN OPTION. YEAH. YEAH. AND THAT IS AN OPTION. THE OTHER, I GUESS QUESTION IS THE, UH, THERE'S TALK ABOUT THE, UH, OUTDOOR SPEAKERS, UH, THAT THEY WON'T BE ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE BUILDING. UH, THERE WILL BE NO OUTDOOR SPEAKERS. NONE. NONE. NONE. OKAY. THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE CLEAR. IT MAKES IT SOUND LIKE THERE'S GONNA BE SPEAKERS, BUT JUST NOT ON THE BACKSIDE. THERE WILL BE NONE OUTDOORS. ALRIGHT. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ. ACTUALLY, MR. BROWN, I HAS ONE QUESTION FOR YOU. SORRY, BEFORE YOU WALK AWAY. I KNOW, AND NONE OF IT'S THIS LAYOUT, BUT IS THERE ANY ADJUSTMENT TO MAYBE ADJUSTING THESE PARKING SPACES WHERE THE, UH, POND IS, I KNOW, I DON'T KNOW. I HAVEN'T SEEN THE LAYOUT, BUT, UH, THE DETENTION POND, LIKE THAT WAY YOU HAVE THE POND BACK THERE WHERE IT'S NOT [02:20:02] ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTIES THERE. AND ACTUALLY YOU HAVE THE RIGS ON THE OTHER SIDE. I, I'M NOT SURE I'M GONNA SAY THAT'S, IF YOU'RE SAYING THE POND IS, I'M LOOKING AT THE SAME WAY YOU ARE NOW. IT'S ON THE RIGHT SIDE. AND YOU'RE SAYING PUTTING IT ON THE LEFT SIDE? YEAH. I MEAN, YOU WOULD HAVE TO REGRADE THE ENTIRE SITE. UH, I MEAN, RIGHT. I'M OKAY. WELL, SOMEONE ELSE MIGHT SAY SOMETHING. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER? ON MY LEFT. ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER ON MY RIGHT. UH, COMMISSIONER CHASE, THIS IS FOR MR. BROWN. UM, WHEN YOU SAID THAT, WHEN YOU'RE ASKED IF YOU, IF YOU WANT THIS IN YOUR BACKYARD MM-HMM. , AND YOU SAID YOU WOULD RATHER WORK WITH A DEVELOPER THAT WOULD BE WILLING TO WORK WITH YOU AS A DEVELOPER HERE, WHAT ARE YOU, BESIDES WHAT'S ON THE SITE PLAN, ARE THERE THINGS THAT YOU ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY? ARE, IS THERE ANY TERMS, CONDITIONS THAT YOU'VE OFFERED THEM TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND OPERATE IN GOOD FAITH? YEAH. UM, WE, WE OFFERED, UM, INTERNSHIPS, UH, PREFERENCES TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE WERE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE AT THE SECOND MEETING THAT HAD TEENAGE KIDS THAT WERE LOOKING FOR TRADES, UH, THAT WEREN'T NECESSARILY WANTING TO GO THE COLLEGE ROUTE. UH, SO WE'VE OFFERED PREFERENCE FOR INTERNSHIPS, ONSITE SCHOLARSHIPS TO TRADE SCHOOLS, UM, FOR OUR PARTICULAR USE. ONCE, ONCE AGAIN, UH, UM, FOR THE NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, AND, AND THEIR CHILDREN OR, OR PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE. UM, WE OFFERED SPONSORSHIPS OF, UH, LITTLE LEAGUE TEAMS, UH, AND WE OFFERED, UH, A CASH DONATION TO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WHICH THEY DON'T HAVE AN ORGANIZED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. UH, BUT IT IS OUR BELIEF THAT THE STRONGER THE CORE OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD IS, UH, AND THE PROTECTIONS THAT WE ARE PROVIDING ON THE, THE PERIMETER TOWARDS OUR PROPERTY HELPS THE TWO, THE COMMUNITY BE SUSTAINABLE AND, AND OUR USE, UH, TO BE OPERATIONAL AND COMPATIBLE. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. OTHER QUESTION? COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT. COMMISSIONER HUEY, YOU'RE GOING FIRST. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. MR. BROWN, PLEASE. AND YOU MIGHT HAVE ANSWERED THIS QUESTION ALREADY, BUT, UH, I APOLOGIZE. I FRONT OF, I IF YOU'VE ANSWERED IT ALREADY, BUT ON THE SOUTH WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, THOSE PARKING SPACES ARE HOW, HOW DEEP? UM, ONCE AGAIN, LOOKING THIS WAY AND ON THE LEFT CLOSEST TO THE, OH, ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YEAH, I, I THINK COMMISSIONER WIT HAD ALREADY DID THE MATH IN THEIR 45. OKAY. YEAH. AND, UM, ALSO ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, THAT'S ALSO PARKING FOR WHAT KIND OF VEHICLES? FOR THE TRUCKS THEMSELVES. UH, I MEAN, THERE ARE A A HUNDRED, I THINK A HUNDRED EMPLOYEES PROBABLY BE CLOSER TO 200 ON THIS SITE. UH, NOT ALL AT ONE TIME. UM, AND SO THERE ARE OBVIOUSLY PARKING SPACES FOR CARS, UH, PARKING SPACES FOR PEOPLE, UH, THAT ARE EITHER COMING, UH, TO PURCHASE THE TRUCKS, UH, BUT THE REMAINDER OF 'EM WOULD BE, UH, THE TRUCKS THEMSELVES. IS THERE A CONSIDERATION TO POSSIBLY ELIMINATING THOSE PARKING SPACES TO THE SOUTH AND SOUTHWEST TO GIVE, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, MORE OF A BUFFER? UH, OKAY. ONCE AGAIN IS, YEAH, PLEASE. I THINK THEY'RE, YEAH. YES SIR. SO, SO YOUR ANSWER IS THERE IS A CONSIDERATION, YOU COULD ELIMINATE THOSE SPACES, YOU COULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR THAT. YES. OR THIS BODY COULD, SORRY. THANK YOU. NO MORE QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT. COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA, I WANNA WAIT FOR MR. BROWN TO SIT DOWN AND CALL HIM UP AGAIN. . EXACTLY. MR. BROWN, REAL QUICK, UPSTAIRS. UM, JUST REMIND ME, I KNOW IT'S, IT'S HERE SOMEWHERE. YOU MIGHT HAVE MENTIONED IT, BUT WHAT ARE THE HOURS OF OPERATIONS? AND WHILE YOU'RE GETTING THAT, UM, I KNOW SOME OF THE, I KNOW WE DON'T WANT THINGS TO MOVE NEXT DOOR TO US, YOU KNOW, I LIVE NEXT TO A CRACK HOUSE, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S THE POINT. THAT'S NEAR THE POINT AS, BUT I ALWAYS [02:25:01] ASK, WHEN I TALK TO NEIGHBORS AND, AND PEOPLE, WHAT DO YOU WANNA SEE THERE? RIGHT? IT'S LAND. WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY MORE LAND. SOMEBODY MENTIONED THEY WANTED TO KIND OF LOOK LIKE, UH, 35 AND 1604, THE FORM AREA. ME, ME PERSONALLY, I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE TOO BUSY. I KNOW SOME OF YOU GUYS, SOMEBODY MENTIONED THEY WANT AN HEB, UM, WHICH WOULD BE GREAT, BUT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THE 18 WHEELERS DELIVERING TO HEB, UH, WITH THEIR BACKUP BEEPS AND, AND EVERYTHING, UH, PROBABLY EARLY, EARLY IN THE MORNING AND, AND, AND LATE INTO TONIGHT. UH, BUT WHAT ARE THE HOURS OF OPERATION? ALRIGHT, SO THE HOUR, SORRY, THE HOURS OF OPERATION ARE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, SEVEN TO EIGHT, UH, SATURDAY, EIGHT TO FIVE, CLOSED SUNDAY. UM, MOST OF THE TRUCKS, UH, THAT COME IN FOR SERVICE COME IN BETWEEN NINE AND FOUR, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. UH, THOSE HOURS OF OPERATION ARE FOR THE EMPLOYEES TO WORK. WHAT WAS SATURDAY AGAIN? THE HOURS OF OPERATION? SATURDAY? UM, SATURDAY'S EIGHT TO FIVE. EIGHT TO FIVE. OKAY. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO KNOW. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. ANY, UH, COMMISSIONER REYES, MR. BROWN? YES, SIR. COUPLE OF TRAFFIC QUESTIONS. YOU MAY, YOU MAY HAVE THE NUMBERS. IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS, THAT'S FINE. UM, HOW MANY TRIPS WILL THE EMPLOYEES GENERATE? I, I DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS RIGHT, RIGHT OFF THE BAT. I, I, I DO KNOW THAT I, I KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT OUR USE IS AND COMMERCIAL AND MULTIFAMILY. UM, AND, AND THAT I DO KNOW THAT OUR PEAK HOUR TRIPS ARE NOT DURING THE SAME PEAK HOURS AS RETAIL AND OR MULTIFAMILY. RIGHT. AND THAT, AND THAT MAKES SENSE. 'CAUSE JUST THE SHEER NUMBER OF HOMES GENERATING TRIPS. MM-HMM. , UH, COMPARED TO THIS. YEAH. THIS USE, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY, UH, TRUCKS, HOW MANY RIG TRIPS, UH, OR THE TRUCKS WILL GENERATE AGAIN A DAY. YOU DON'T, YEAH, IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER, THAT'S FINE. I, I, I DON'T HAVE IT. UM, I, THAT WAS A FRUSTRATION. UH, IT'S JUST A LOT LESS. UH, BUT THEY WILL ALL BE COMING IN OFF OF THE ACCESS ROAD, NOT OFF OF WYLE ROAD, AND WE WILL HAVE INGRESS, EGRESS LANES THAT WE HAVE TO BUILD TO KEEP 'EM OUT OF THE, THROUGH LANES OF TRAFFIC. SO I SEE TWO DESAL LANES ON YOUR ACCESS POINTS ON THE, UH, FRONTAGE ROAD, CORRECT? UHHUH , IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. AND THE ACCESS FROM WOLD WILL BE EMPLOYEES ONLY? CORRECT. GATED. GATED WITH A KEY FOB, UH, FOR, UH, EMPLOYEES ONLY. YEAH. AND HOW MANY RIGS WILL YOU BE SERVICING AT THE, AT THE MOST? DO YOU, DO YOU, YOU THINK? I'M JUST GONNA SAY A LOT. OKAY. I, I, I, THAT'S FINE. I, I, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER. THAT'S FINE. BUT IT, IT, IT'S, IT IS A LEGITIMATE, IT IS A, UH, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ASK WHY THIS AREA? AND, UH, IT'S, IT'S SORT OF LIKE CAR DEALERSHIPS THAT, THAT SORT OF, UM, CONGREGATE IN, IN ONE AREA AND, AND RESTAURANTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IT, IT IS AN AREA WHERE THERE ARE, THERE ARE, IF YOU COME FROM FOUR 10 AS AS, UM, BILL SAID, THERE ARE A LOT OF TRUCK, UH, SALES, MAINTENANCE, TRUCK WASHES, THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, IT'S, OUR QUESTION IS WHERE, WHERE ELSE ARE WE SUPPOSED TO PUT IT? YOU KNOW, WE, WE DO HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE ONE IN HOUSTON. WE HAVE 'EM, UH, LOCATED. SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, UH, BUSINESS AREAS OR, OR SERVICE AREAS. AND SO THIS IS, THIS IS ONE OF OUR SERVICE AREAS. I APPRECIATE IT. YES, SIR. MR. CHAIR. YES. UH, COMM, MR. REYES, WERE YOU FINISHED WITH QUESTIONS? YEAH. OKAY. YES. FOR MR. KAUFMAN. I WAS JUST WONDERING WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE ABOUT THE CONCESSIONS THAT WERE PROPOSED AND IF YOU HAD ANY OTHER, OTHER IDEAS THAT WOULD BE YES, SIR. ELIGIBLE TO THE COMMUNITY. UH, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. UM, COUPLE COMMENTS. ONE, COULD YOU PULL UP MY SLIDE 10? IT'S THE AERIAL, THAT ONE. YEAH. SO THIS IS, THIS IS THEIR EXISTING, UH, LOCATION A COUPLE MILES AWAY. THAT'S ALL. AND THERE ARE PLENTY OF TRAILERS. OKAY. THAT'S NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO IS MOST ARE MANY THINGS THAT KEN MENTIONED ARE NOT IN THE SITE PLAN. HOURS OF OPERATION, USE OF THE ROAD, NO TRAILERS, ALL THE IMPORTANT STUFF IS NOT IN THE SITE PLAN. OKAY. SO THERE'S NO WAY FOR THE CITY TO ENFORCE WHATEVER. THE THIRD THING IS, THE EXAMPLE OF, WELL, YOU COULD HAVE A SUPERMARKET AND SOME 18 WHEELERS. OKAY? TWO OR THREE, [02:30:02] NOT 743 PARKING SPACES. OKAY. NOT HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS. AND SO THERE'S THE MASS IN THE SHEER VOLUME OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, OVER 35 ACRES, THAT'S ALMOST LIKE A MALL. AND, UH, UH, THERE'S, IT'S REALLY, I THINK, A FAULTY COMPARISON TO LOOK AT WHAT SOME RETAIL STORE WOULD HAVE IN THE MORNING OR IN THE EVENING, AND WHAT A BUSINESS WHOSE BUSINESS IS SERVICING THOSE TRAILERS. UH, IT'S REALLY APPLES AND ORANGES IN MY OPINION. SO, UM, YEAH. SO, UH, THESE ARE HANDSHAKE PROPOSALS. UH, WHETHER YOU HAVE EIGHT FOOT FENCE OR THREE FOOT FENCE, OR 12 FOOT, YOU'RE GONNA BE KNOWN FOREVER, IS THE HOUSE BEHIND THE STORAGE UNIT FOR FREIGHTER, UH, FREIGHTLINERS. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GONNA BE. WHERE DO YOU LIVE? I LIVE RIGHT BEHIND THAT PLACE. AND THAT'S FOR VALUE. THAT'S A TERRIBLE THING TO SAY. SO THAT'S REALLY ALL I, MOLLY, I APPRECIATE COUNCIL, UH, COMMISSIONER BUSSANI EXPLORING WHAT THE COUPLE OF THE NEIGHBORS, HOW THEY FEEL. OUR CHALLENGE IS WE HAVE 1,344 NEIGHBORS, 200 OF WHICH TOOK THE TIME TO SEND IN A RESPONSE. AND THEY FEEL PRETTY STRONGLY. OUR MAIN, OUR REALLY MAIN OPPOSITION IS TO THE CD FEATURE, NOT THE C TWO. IT'S ALLOWING AN INDUSTRIAL USE. BUT YES, EVERY ONE OF THOSE NEIGHBORS SAID, PUT IN A GROCERY STORE. I'M, I'M OKAY WITH THAT. NOW, IF WE HAD A FRESH BLANK CANVAS, YOU'D SAY, ALL RIGHT, LET'S DO A RETAIL PROJECT. AND YOU'D HAVE A BUFFER STILL, NOT A LANDSCAPE BUFFER, BUT YOU'D PUT SOME KIND OF ZONING IN THE BACK AND THEN YOU'D HAVE BUT LAY IN BUFFERS. THAT'S THE WAY YOU'D DO IT. BUT TO MERELY, YOU WOULDN'T PUT C TWO A BUTTING THEIR FENCE. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WOULD. SO, YES, SIR. ALRIGHT. UH, COMMISSIONER REYES, WERE YOU BILL KAUFFMAN, MR. KAUFFMAN. ALRIGHT. BACK TO COMMISSIONER WHITSETT AND COMMISSIONER REYES. YOU WERE FINISHED WITH YOUR QUESTIONS, CORRECT? I MEAN, SORRY, NOT MY GOSH. I'M LOOKING AT COMMISSIONER LUM AND I'M LIKE SAYING WRONG. I, SORRY. YES, COMMISSIONER. THANK YOU. I DON'T KNOW WHY I WAS, I'M LIKE THE OFF CONCEPT OF THE RISK OF THE OUTTA COUNTY LAND AND WHAT THAT DOES AND, UM, THE IMPACT THAT, THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE AT SOME POINT ON SOMEBODY. UM, YEAH, WELL, IT'S . THE TRUTH IS IT WAS TOLD TO THE NEIGHBORS AS A THREAT. YOU SAY, TAKE OUR $50,000 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. AND THEY, THERE IS A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, THEY HAVE THREE DIRECTORS, THEY'RE JUST NEW. THEY HAVEN'T REGISTERED WITH THE CITY. THEY'VE BEEN THERE THREE OR FOUR MONTHS, BUT THEY HAVE 1,344 CONSTITUENTS, SO TO SPEAK. SO, UM, IT WAS SAID, IF YOU DON'T DO THIS, WE'RE JUST GONNA START PILING. WELL, THEY GOTTA HAVE IT PLANTED THERE. THERE'S REQUIREMENTS. AND THAT IS, IT'S NOT VERY EFFICIENT FOR THEM. THEY ALREADY HAVE A SITE ON, ON I 10 AVAILABLE. UH, IF THEY WANTED, IF THEY DROPPED THEIR CD FEATURE, WE WOULD NEGOTIATE GOOD FAITH ON WHAT SHOULD IT BE ZONED. WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO THE ANNEXATION. THEY, THEY OUGHT TO ANNEX IT. THAT'S ONLY FAIR. AND, BUT WE WOULD LAYER IN WHAT IS BUFFERING FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU ALL WOULD. AND, UH, I THINK THAT'S THE APPROPRIATE WAY TO DO IT. SO ONE COMMISSIONER, ONE MORE FOR MR. BROWN. OKAY. FOR ME, THE, UH, UH, FOR MR. BROWN. OKAY. THE PROPOSED ATTENTION POND LOOKS REALLY LARGE. IS THAT A VERY SHALLOW POND? YES. COULD THAT BE SHRUNKEN TO SOMETHING SMALL TO CREATE BIGGER BUFFERS BY BIG, BUILDING IT DEEPER AND SPENDING MORE MONEY? PROBABLY. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, AS I SAID EARLIER, YOU PUT MAN ON THE MOON. SURE. I MEAN, IT'S POSSIBLE. UH, WE WERE HOPING TO, TO USE AS LITTLE OF THAT, THAT PART OF THE, THE PROPERTY AS POSSIBLE. BUT I MEAN, THAT'S JUST THE WAY THE TOPOGRAPHY IS. UM, ALL RIGHT. YOU DIDN'T STOP ME FROM TALKING, SO, UH, ANSWERED FOR OTHER OPTIONS AND YEAH. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE, YOU HAD A QUESTION? STILL MY NAME? YES, I KNOW. YES. THANK YOU. SORRY, I APOLOGIZE. COMMISSIONER KELLUM AGAIN. AND COMMISSIONER REYES . SORRY. UM, STAFF, SO THIS IS A QUESTION TO YOU. YOU KNOW, ONE THING MR. KAUFMAN SAID THAT I THINK MIGHT'VE BEEN MISINTERPRETED IS THERE'S A CONDITIONAL USE ON THIS PROPERTY AS A RESULT OF THAT [02:35:02] THE APPLICANT IS BOUND TO THE SITE PLAN, WHAT'S REPRESENTED THERE, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. ADDITIONALLY, AS A COMMISSION, WE CAN MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE ENFORCEABLE REGARDING HOURS OF OPERATION, CORRECT? YES, SIR. OR I CAN, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE CAN ANSWER THIS AS WELL. YES. CORRECT. WE CAN MAKE, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE ENFORCEABLE IF A ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING, UH, SOLID SCREEN FENCING AND AT CERTAIN HEIGHTS. YES. CORRECT. AND WE CAN MAKE IT RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE ENFORCEABLE REGARDING BUFFERS, INCLUDING LANDSCAPE BUFFERS. YES. AND WE CAN MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE ENFORCEABLE THROUGH THE CITY COUNCIL'S ORDINANCE REGARDING OUTDOOR AMPLIFICATION, CORRECT? YES. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR THAT THESE ARE NOT, YOU KNOW, UH, UNENFORCEABLE HANDSHAKE AGREEMENTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE END OF MY QUESTIONS, MR. CHAIR. ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OH, I HAVE QUESTIONS ACTUALLY. SO, UH, QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AND, AND I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. UM, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS IS ON THE, UM, THE PLAN AMENDMENT, THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAD, WHAT WAS THE, UH, WHAT WAS THE CHANGED TO AND FROM? SO IT WENT FROM URBAN LIVING TO COMMERCIAL. WHICH, WHICH? COMMERCIAL COMMUNITY. COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL. OKAY. TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL. AND, UM, COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL DOES NOT ALLOW C3, BUT IT ALLOWS C TWO. CORRECT. OKAY. AND THEN THE QUESTION ON THE MXD, UM, MR. BROWN ACTUALLY BROUGHT UP AND, UH, THE MXD ALLOWS C3. CORRECT? UH, ONE OF THE THINGS, UH, MR. BROWN SAID WAS THAT THAT COULD BE MOVED AROUND. DOES MXD DOES IT OR, OR DOES IT, IS IT LOCALIZED? IT'S LOCALIZED. THEY HAVE TO COME, THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT A SITE PLAN AND THEY CAN MAKE AN AMENDMENT, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE TO SUBMIT AN AMENDMENT TO THE SITE PLAN. IT ALLOWS, UM, ANYWHERE FROM C ONE, C TWO, C3, AND BUSINESS PARK ALSO. OKAY. OKAY. SO YOU COULD DO C3, BUT YOU COULDN'T JUST, YOU JUST CAN'T MOVE IT THERE. THAT'S PART OF THE MX THAT IT HAS TO BE ACCEPTED. OKAY. I MEAN, APPROVED. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. I THINK THAT'S IT FOR CITY STAFF. UM, LET ME SEE. I ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE ANY MORE, I HAVE MORE COMMENTS, BUT THAT'S FINE. SO WE'LL JUST MOVE ON TO, BACK TO YOU. LET, LEMME SEE FINAL QUESTIONS, OPPORTUNITIES FOR QUESTIONS. SEEING NONE. ALRIGHT, BACK TO YOU, COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE FOR A MOTION AND DISCUSSION. YOU, UH, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. UM, YOU KNOW, AS I MENTIONED AT THE OUTSET OF MY QUESTIONING, UH, THIS IS NOT MY HOME DISTRICT. THIS IS TAYLOR WATSON, COMMISSIONER WATSON'S DISTRICT. UM, I FIND THIS LIKE MANY OF OUR CASES TO BE VERY DIFFICULT. UH, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES WHEN I'M APPROACHING THE ZONING CASE, I START WITH BASIC PRINCIPLES. UH, C TWO COMMERCIAL USE IS APPROPRIATE ALONG MAJOR INTERSTATE THOROUGHFARES. UM, INDUSTRIAL SHOULD NOT BE PLACED WHERE THERE IS EXISTING RESIDENTIAL. UM, AND SO THOSE TWO ARE KIND OF IN CONFLICT HERE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT A GOOD C TWO, THE NP 10 IS COMPLETELY INAPPROPRIATE. THE OCL IS JUST A DANGEROUS, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, PERHAPS MORE SO THAN, YOU KNOW, THIS SPECIFIC INDUSTRIAL USE AS A CONDITIONAL USE. UM, ADDITIONALLY, ALTHOUGH EVERYONE HAS SORT OF INDICATED THAT THE PLAN B DOWN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF WOLD ROAD IS APPROPRIATE, THAT SEEMS TO BE CLOSER TO THE ENTRANCE TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, THAN THE CURRENT PLANNED. UM, YOU DON'T THINK IT IS THAT THE, UH, THE PICTURE OUT THERE ON AN EASEL SEEMS TO INDICATE IT'S PRETTY CLOSE, UH, TO THE ENTRANCE. SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE ARE ISSUES HERE. DRAINAGE, AS WE'VE DISCUSSED IN AN EARLIER CASE, WOULD BE TAKEN UP BY THE PERMITTING. SHOULD THIS BECOME PART OF THE CITY AND IS ANNEXED, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC IS ANOTHER ISSUE IN THIS CASE. I UNDERSTAND THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN RIGS AND CARS. UM, BUT IF WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT 10,000 HOMES, [02:40:01] THAT'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC THAT WE'RE GONNA BE PUTTING ON THESE ROADS GENERALLY. UM, BUT IN THE END, AT THIS POINT, AND THANKS TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS FROM MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, UM, I THINK THAT THERE IS STILL THE POSSIBILITY OF SOME CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN THE APPLICANT AND THE NEIGHBORS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE. I THINK THERE ARE THINGS, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE COMMISSIONER WHITSETT PROPOSED OF CHANGING THAT DETENTION POND TO TRY TO MOVE SOME OF THESE ELEMENTS AROUND AND GIVE GREATER PROTECTION TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, AND NOW I'VE FORGOTTEN WHO, UH, COMMISSIONER HUEY RECOMMENDED, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY WITHDRAWING THOSE RIG PARKING SPOTS ALONG THE SOUTHWEST. AND SO PORTION, AND AGAIN, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT MY HOME DISTRICT, UM, I THINK IT IS APPROPRIATE AT THIS POINT TO MOVE FOR A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE ON THIS MATTER. WE HAVE REGISTERED AND WE CONSIDER EVERY SINGLE PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WAS MADE TODAY. I HOPE THAT Y'ALL WILL CONTINUE CONVERSATION, BUT AT THIS TIME, I MOVE TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER FIVE TO THE JUNE 18TH MEETING. ALL RIGHT, THERE'S A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND FOR THE CONTINUANCE? SECOND. ALL RIGHT. THERE'S A MOTION FOR A CONTIN TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE BY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WHITSETT. UM, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER ON MY LEFT. SEE NONE, COMMISSIONER ON MY RIGHT. SEEING NONE. UM, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE AND THAT THIS IS A DIFFICULT CASE. UM, HOWEVER, UM, I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE'VE HAD IT CONTINUED AND I UNDERSTAND AND, AND THAT, THAT, UM, TAYLOR IS NOT HERE AND THAT'S WHY IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO DECIDE TO NOT SUPPORT THE CONTINUANCE. UM, BUT I KNOW THAT WE'VE SEEN, UM, TREMENDOUS NEIGHBOR OUTPOURING OF SUPPORT OR ACTUALLY NOT SUPPORT, BUT WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, MAN, I CAN'T EVEN TALK AT ALL TODAY. UM, UH, RESPONSES AND OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. MY GOSH. UM, I, I I'VE SEEN A LOT OF THE SAME NEIGHBORS AT PLANNING COMMISSION AS WELL. AND, UM, FOR ME, I DON'T THINK THAT TWO WEEKS IS GONNA CHANGE MY OPINION, WHICH IS THAT I DON'T THINK THIS IS A GOOD USE FOR THE SITE AND PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE, THE PLAN AS, UH, MR. KAUFMAN SAID, IT SAYS TO ENHANCE THE DIVERSITY OF OTHER LAND USES SO THAT INDUSTRIAL USES FREIGHT, TRANSPORT, MANUFACTURE, CONSTRUCTION, DO NOT DOMINATE THE CORRIDOR. AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVED COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS C TWO AT ITS MAX AND IS OFFICES PROFESSIONAL SERVICES RETAIL USES, ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS MENTIONED THAT, UM, C TWO ALLOWS BUSINESSES THAT WE COULD INTERACT WITH AND WOULD USE. I, I THINK THAT THAT'S A IMPORTANT POINT. UM, AND SO IT, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME JUST TO, EVEN THOUGH I BELIEVE THAT, UM, MR. BROWN AND HAS REALLY GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND AS FAR AS PROVIDING ADDITIONAL, UM, BUFFERING AND THINGS OF THAT SORT. UM, IT, IT, IT, IT'S, SO, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO SAY NO. UM, BUT, UM, I STILL JUST CANNOT GET OVER THAT. THE, IT, IN MY OPINION, CONFLICTS WITH THE PLAN, THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN. UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVED COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL, THEY DIDN'T APPROVE REGIONAL COMMERCIAL, WHICH WOULD BE A C3, WHICH WOULD ALLOW THIS USE. UM, AND, UH, WHILE THE CD ALLOWS THE C3 TO BE PULLED DOWN INTO A C TWO, IT KIND OF GETS AROUND IT IN A WAY, UM, THAT I DON'T THINK IS APPROPRIATE. BUT THAT'S ALL I'M GONNA SAY. SO THE MOTION IS FOR A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. AYE. COMMISSIONER TSET? YES. COMMISSIONER [02:45:01] KELLUM? NO. COMMISSIONER NOOSA? NO. COMMISSIONER REYES? NO. COMMISSIONER HUI AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER BARROS? NO. COMMISSIONER CHASE? NO CHAIR. SIPES? NO. ITEM FAILS. ALRIGHT. IS THERE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER THIS ITEM? IF NOT, IT WILL COME BACK AS A, AS A CONTINUANCE. ? YEAH, I, I HAVE SOME COMMENTS IF I, IF I MAY. UM, BEFORE WE MAKE A MOTION, I, BASED ON THE INPUT THAT WE GOT FROM A LOT OF RESIDENTS TODAY, AND THEY HAVE TWO POTENTIAL SITES, UM, AND THEY SHOW THE A AND B, UH, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THE PRESENT LOCATION TO DO THIS, SO, UM, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION IF I HAVE A SECOND FOR THE APPLICANT TO REALLY GO AFTER THE, THE OTHER SECOND LOCATION THAT DOES NOT INTERFERE WITH THE RESIDENTS. UM, SO THERE'S, THERE'S TWO POTENTIAL LOCATIONS AND SO THEY'LL HAVE TO RESUBMIT THE APPLICATION, THE DRAWINGS AND ALL THAT, I BELIEVE. IS THAT CORRECT? I DON'T THINK SO. I THINK THERE'S ALREADY, AND, AND, AND THAT WOULD BE A STAFF QUESTION. SO, SO, SO THAT SIDE IS ALREADY A, UH, A SERVICE CENTER, SO IT'S NOT, THIS IS FOR SALES, SO IT'S A DIFFERENT USE. SO THAT'S WHERE THE RIGS WOULD GO, BUT ACT, SO IT'S ALREADY HAS A USE, SO THEY DON'T NEED TO REALLY APPLY FOR A ZONING CHANGE. IT'S ALREADY ZONED. OKAY. SO THE MOTION WILL BE JUST TO OPPOSE THE, THE MOTION. WE NEED A MOTION. I NEED A MOTION TO RECONSIDER IT BEFORE WE CONSIDER A DIFFERENT MOTION. WELL, I, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER THIS THEN. ALRIGHT, SECOND. THAT MOTION. ALRIGHT. THERE'S A MOTION TO RECONSIDER BY COMMISSIONER BARDOS WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER KELLUM . UM, DO WE WANT DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. ALRIGHT, LET'S DO A ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. MOTION TO RECONSIDER. COMMISSIONER BARROS. COMMISSIONER BARROS? NO, NO, NO. MOTION TO RECONSIDER. YES, I'M SORRY. OKAY. MOTION TO RECONSIDER MR. BARROS. COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES. COMMISSIONER OSA? YES. COMMISSIONER REYES? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. AYE. COMMISSIONER HUI AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER WIT? YES. COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES. CHAIR SIPES? YES. ALRIGHT. THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR AN ALTERNATIVE MOTION. UM, CLARIFICATION FROM AUDREY. DOES IT HAVE TO BE BY, CAN IT BE BY ANYONE OR DOES IT HAVE TO BE BY OR WHO, WHO WHO CAN MAKE THE ALTERNATIVE MOTION AT THIS POINT, YOU'RE FREE TO HAVE IT BE BY ANYONE. THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER HAD TO BE BY SOMEBODY THAT WAS ON THE PREVAILING SIDE. SO NOW THAT'S, YOU'RE BACK TO SQUARE ONE. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THAT. ALRIGHT, SO, UM, IS THERE AN ALTERNATIVE MOTION? WELL, IN LIGHT OF THE MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION, MOVE TO RECOMMEND DENIAL OF ITEM NUMBER FIVE. ALRIGHT. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT. COMMISSIONER KELLUM GOT IT FIRST AND I'M GONNA HAVE TO KEEP REPEATING HIS NAME SO I DON'T CALL HIM THE WRONG NAME IN THE FUTURE. AGAIN. . ALRIGHT, SO, UM, MOTION IS FOR DENIAL BY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER KELLUM. DISCUSSION? NONE. NONE. ALRIGHT. ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. AYE. COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES. COMMISSIONER OSA? YES. COMMISSIONER REYES? YES. COMMISSIONER HUI AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER TSET? YES. COMMISSIONER CHASE? NO. CHAIR SIPES? YES. ITEM PASSES FOR DENIAL. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO ITEM EIGHT, I BELIEVE. THREE HOURS WATCHING. [02:50:02] GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. UM, NAME IS KELLY SANDERS, UH, PLANNING COORDINATOR WITH DSD. THE, UM, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT LOCATED AT 28 27 BABCOCK ROAD IN DISTRICT EIGHT. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CHANGE FROM C3 S WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A HOSPITAL TALLER THAN 35 FEET WITH A HEA STOP TO C3 S. CD WITH A, UM, SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR THE HOSPITAL TALLER THAN 35 FEET WITH A HEA STOP AND ADDING A CONDITIONAL USE FOR THE SOLAR FARM. THERE WERE EIGHT NOTICES SENT, ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED. AND THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET. AND SO APPLICANT, UM, WELL STAFF IS, UH, THE EXISTING C3 S, THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A HOSPITAL TALLER THAN 35 FEET WITH A HEA STOP IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPOSED C3 SCD WITH THE SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A HOSPITAL TALLER THAN 35 FEET WITH A HEA STOP AND THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR A SOLAR FARM IS ALSO AN APPROPRIATE ZONING. THE SOLAR FARM WILL BE ACCESSORY TO THE EXISTING HOSPITAL UTILIZING OPEN LAND FOR THE ALTERNATIVE CLEAN POWER RESOURCES THAT CAN SERVICE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. THE PROPOSED LOCATION OF THE SOLAR FARM IS IN THE REAR CORNER AND A BUDDING AN EXISTING POWER, UM, STATION STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE GO AHEAD. ALRIGHT, TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR PROJECT, HOW Y'ALL DOING? MY NAME'S RON HARDEN. UM, ADDRESS 6 7 14 KING LOUIS DRIVE, 7 8 2 2 9 HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. UH, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS PUTTING IN A SMALL SOLAR FARM, ONE MEGAWATT AC TO SUPPLY POWER FOR THE HOSPITAL. UM, IT'LL BE TUCKED AWAY KIND OF IN THE BACKSIDE OF THE PROPERTY BETWEEN THE, THE PARKING GARAGE AND THE, UH, SUBSTATION. SO, UH, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT, . ALRIGHT, GREAT. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? THERE? THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT. YEP. ALRIGHT. UM, OH, THERE STILL IS THIS DISTRICT DATE? YES. UH, COMMISSIONER ORTIZ, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, CHAIR. RON, A QUICK THANK YOU FOR STAYING WAITING FOR US FOR THIS QUESTIONS, BUT JUST QUICK QUESTIONS. UM, WILL THERE BE FENCING AROUND THE SOLAR FARM? YES, THERE WILL BE, UH, SECURITY FENCING. UM, I BELIEVE IT'S EIGHT FOOT WITH, UM, A CHAIN LINK. OKAY. CHAIN LINK FENCE, SECURITY FENCE. GREAT. AND THEN HOW LONG WILL THEY, WOULD THEY BE INSTALLED AND THEY NEED TO BE REPLACED? LIKE HOW LONG ARE THESE GONNA BE? FOUR. THIS IS A 40 YEAR PLANT. LIKE, SO THEN THEY WILL BE, THEY'LL BE THERE FOR 40 YEARS AND THEN THEY HAVE TO BE TOUCHED. RIGHT. AND THEN WHAT WOULD IT FROM THE STREET VIEW, DO YOU KNOW, HAVE AN IDEA WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE FROM THE STREET VIEW? YOU COULDN'T SEE IT FROM THE STREET EVEN IF SHE TRIED. SO, AND, AND, AND NOT, NOT TO BE FACETIOUS ABOUT IT BECAUSE THERE'S A, THERE'S A CREEK BED WITH A LOT OF FOLIAGE, HUGE TREES THAT BLOCK EVERY ACCESS POINT. THE ONLY POINT THAT IT'D POSSIBLY BE SEEN FROM THE ROAD WOULD BE, UM, UH, THERE'S A SIDE ACCESS, I BELIEVE ON THE NORTHERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. THAT WOULD BE A SLIGHT ACCESS, BUT YOU CAN'T SEE IT FROM THE BACK POCKET. SO THEN NO CARS OR ANYBODY PEDESTRIANS CAN WALK INTO IT OR ANY, NOT POSSIBLE. OKAY. AND THEN LAST QUESTION, DO YOU KNOW IF THE APPLICANT HAS REACHED OUT TO MEDICAL CENTER FOUNDATION ABOUT THE, THE FARM? I'M NOT AWARE IF THEY HAVE OR NOT. OKAY. UM, I, I DON'T KNOW. NO WORRIES. OKAY. AND THEN YOU SAID THE BUFFERS COME FROM BABCOCK. IS THERE'S A, YOU SAID THERE'LL BE A BUFFER I GUESS FROM THE FENCE LINE? WELL, I MEAN, IT, IT, THE HOSPITAL WOULD BE THE BUFFER FROM BABCOCK. OKAY. SO I, THE, THE PARKING GARAGE, HOSPITAL OFFICE BUILDINGS, THEN YOU GET TO A CREEK AREA, THEN YOU GET TO, UM, LARGE TREES, FOLIAGE, THEN YOU GET TO THE FARM. PERFECT. SO NOW BY CITY COUNCIL, WILL YOU MAYBE HAVE SOME TYPE OF ILLUSTRATION OR KIND OF A DRAW OUT OR MAYBE SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN SEE WHEN YOU GET TO, WOULD YOU KNOW IF THEY'LL HAVE SOMETHING OTHER THAN JUST THE, ARE YOU TALKING MORE THAN THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS YES. SUBMITTED. YES. SO YOU'RE WANTING LIKE ELEVATIONS? WELL, NO, NO, JUST TO SEE 'CAUSE I SEE THE, I DON'T SEE THIS. I GUESS I HAVEN'T SEEN THE SITE PLAN. LET SEE. ALL RIGHT. LET ME GET THE SITE PLAN FOR YOU. YEAH. OKAY. I SEE IT NOW. HOLD ON. SORRY. OKAY. SO WHAT MAKES THIS, UH, A LITTLE BIT UNIQUE IS THAT IT IS A EARTH MOUNTED SOLAR SYSTEM. SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY KIND OF STEEL RACKING THAT'S GONNA BE PUT INTO AN ELEVATED POSITION. OKAY. SO THE, THE, YOU KNOW, NET BENEFIT IS OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT GONNA CARRY ANY KIND OF REFLECTIVE AGAINST THE HE HELI, UM, HELICOPTER PORT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT'S, IT'S LOW PROFILE. SO I MEAN, YOU'D REALLY HAVE TO BE LOOKING FOR IT TO FIND IT. OKAY. THANK YOU RON FOR YOUR QUESTION. I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS AND ANYBODY ELSE DOES. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT. [02:55:01] NO COMMISSION ON MY RIGHT? NO. ALRIGHT. BACK TO YOU COMMISSIONER. THANK YOU CHAIR. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR STAYING. RON. UM, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL OF, UH, NUMBER ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. THANK YOU. GREAT. THANKS. I'LL SECOND THAT. ALRIGHT. THERE IS A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARDOS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM EIGHT. DISCUSSION. LOOKING LEFT. SEEING NONE. NONE. JUST AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR STAYING RON AND LOOKING RIGHT. SEEING NONE. ALL RIGHT. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL. COMMISSIONER TIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES. COMMISSIONER NOOSA? YES. COMMISSIONER REYES? YES. COMMISSIONER ANTE. AYE. COMMISSIONER HUI AYE. COMMISSIONER WIT? YES. COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES. CHAIR S SIPES? YES. HI. AND PASSES. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UM, I BELIEVE NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER 16. IF WE COULD HAVE STAFF'S PRESENTATION PLEASE. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS ALEXA ANA ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER 16 IS LOCATED AT ONE 20 SOUTH TRINITY STREET GOING FROM I ONE GENERAL INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT AND C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO MF 65 IDZ URBAN MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT INFIELD DEVELOPMENT ZONE OVERLAY. THERE WERE 32 NOTICES SENT OUT. ZERO IN FAVOR. ZERO POSED WITHIN 200 FEET. THE HISTORIC WEST SIDE RESIDENCE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR IN PROSPECT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. GAVE NO RESPONSE, NO RESPONSE FROM OUTSIDE THE 200 FEET. THE EXISTING C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND I ONE GENERAL INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT IS IN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPOSED MF 65 IDZ URBAN MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE OVERLAY IS NOT. WHILE THE PROPOSED MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT ALIGNS WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE AREA, THE IDZ OVERLAY TO WAVE PARKING WOULD CAUSE CONSIDERABLE CONGESTION FOR THE LOCAL STREETS. ADDITIONALLY, THE COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC FROM THE ADJOINING BUSINESSES LIMITS THE PARKING OPTIONS FOR THE ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES. STAFF RECOMMENDS AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF IDZ THREE WITH USES PERMITTED IN MF 65 TO ACHIEVE ADDITIONAL HOUSING BUT MEET THE 50% MINIMUM PARKING STANDARD. THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE. GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. EMILY WEISLER WITH KILLING GRIFFIN AND FAIRMAN 1 0 1 0 1 REUNION PLACE, SUITE TWO 50. UM, STAFF IS GETTING THE PRESENTATION. YES, WE CAN START ON THE SECOND ONE. OKAY. UM, I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY, SO I WILL NOT TAKE A VERY LONG TIME. UM, JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE PROPERTY. IT'S JUST UNDER TWO ACRES AT ONE 20 SOUTH TRINITY. UM, IT DOESN'T INCLUDE, YOU CAN SEE THE GREATER SAN ANTONIO AFTERSCHOOL CARE. THAT QUARTER PORTION OF THE ENTIRE BLOCK IS NOT PART OF THE REZONING, BUT IT IS EVERYTHING ELSE. UM, THIS IS THE SACRED HEART VILLAS. IT IS CURRENTLY, UM, A 48 UNIT, UH, SENIOR AFFORDABLE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY. UM, IT'S BEEN THERE SINCE THE EARLY EIGHTIES, OVER 40 YEARS. UM, AND WE ARE PROPOSING AN EXPANSION OF THIS PROJECT. NEXT SLIDE. OH, OH, UM, JUST A LARGER ZOOMED OUT AERIAL. YOU CAN SEE AZA CREEK. WE ARE WEST OF THAT, UH, CADDY CORNERED TO THE, THE NORTH E NORTHWEST, EXCUSE ME, IS SACRED HEART CATHOLIC CHURCH. UM, WE ARE RIGHT THERE. THIS IS JUST A GOOD ORIENTATION OF KIND OF SURROUNDING USES. UM, THERE IS A, A NEARBY RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY, UM, ALSO AFFORDABLE LIVING ON BUENA VISTA. UM, A LOT OF MIX OF USES, RESTAURANTS, RETAIL, A LOT OF DIFFERENT USES HERE. NEXT SLIDE. SO THIS IS IN THE GUADALUPE WEST SIDE COMMUNITY PLAN. IT IS DESIGNATED MIXED USE. A PLAN AMENDMENT IS NOT NECESSARY. THIS IS CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE LAND USE PLAN. OUR ZONING DESIGNATION, SO THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED C TWO MAJORITY AND THEN THERE IS SOME I ONE, UM, CLOSER TO WEST COMMERCE. BUT YOU CAN SEE WITH THE AERIAL UNDERLAY THAT PART OF THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT IS STILL WITHIN THAT I ONE ZONING. SO IT'S SPLIT ACROSS BOTH. UM, C TWO AND I ONE NEITHER, WHICH ARE APPROPRIATE FOR, UM, MULTIFAMILY. OUR REQUESTED REZONING IS AN MF 65. IT'S A VERY SMALL PIECE OF PROPERTY, SO THAT'S WHY THE, THE DENSITY IS SO HIGH. UM, WITH THE IDZ OVERLAY. UM, THERE ARE, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO STAFF, THERE ARE A LOT OF VERY, UH, CRITICAL AND IMPORTANT REASONS AND JUSTIFICATIONS FOR THE MS 65 BASE. UM, AND I WILL GO THROUGH THOSE WITH YOU. SO, UM, FIRST AND FOREMOST WE HAVE BEEN ENGAGING WITH FOR SEVERAL WEEKS, UM, TWO MONTHS NOW WITH THE HISTORIC WEST SIDE RESIDENCE ASSOCIATION. [03:00:01] BEFORE FILING THIS REQUEST, WE MET WITH THEM. WE TALKED THROUGH THE ZONING OPTIONS, UM, ONE OF WHICH BEING STAFF'S ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION AND THEN THE ZONING OPTION BEFORE YOU TODAY. UM, WE TALKED THROUGH THE PROS AND CONS OF BOTH OF THOSE, HOW IT WOULD AFFECT THE DEVELOPMENT. UM, THE DRIVER OF THE DIFFERENCE BEING PARKING PROVIDED. WE WILL BE PROVIDING PARKING, AND I'LL SHOW YOU THE SITE PLAN IN JUST A SECOND. UM, BUT WE GAVE THE OPTION TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF WHAT THEY WANTED US TO APPLY FOR. IF WE WENT WITH THE IDC BASE, WE WILL STILL HAVE TO GO TO BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT FOR A PARKING VARIANCE. UM, OR WE KEPT WITH THE MULTI-FAMILY BASE AND IT WAS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO HISTORIC WEST SIDE THAT WE KEPT THE MULTI-FAMILY BASE. UM, BECAUSE IT IS A MULTI-FAMILY PROJECT, THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN ZONED FOR A LONG, LONG TIME WITH COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL. UM, AND THAT'S NOT APPROPRIATE EITHER. THEY ARE FAR MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THE MF 65 BASE, UM, AND THE IDZ OVERLAY THAN THEY ARE WITH AN IDZ BASE. UM, THIS IS ALSO CONSISTENT AND SUPER COMPATIBLE WITH A NUMBER OF CITY AND COMMUNITY PLAN GOALS. OBJECTIVES. THIS IS PROVIDING ADDITIONAL SENIOR HOUSING, WHICH IS CRITICALLY NEEDED, UM, ACROSS THE CITY, BUT ALSO PARTICULARLY IN THIS COMMUNITY. UM, IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE CATEGORY AND IT GETS RID OF THAT COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL ZONING THAT IS DEEPLY INAPPROPRIATE, UM, AND PUTS IN A MULTIFAMILY BASE SO THAT THIS PROPERTY IS ALWAYS JUST MULTIFAMILY, WHICH IS WHAT IT HAS BEEN AND WHAT IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE. SO THIS IS JUST ANOTHER ORIENTATION. UM, THIS IS GOING TO BE THE SAME ORIENTATION AS THE SITE PLAN BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S VERY HELPFUL, UM, FOR SOME FOLKS. UM, SO THIS, YOU CAN SEE THE VACANT SPACE, UM, VACANT LAND CLOSER TO WEST COMMERCE, UM, AND THEN OUR PARKING AREA AND THEN THE EXISTING BUILDING. THERE IS NO, UM, FOOTPRINT CHANGES PLANNED FOR THE EXISTING STRUCTURE. SO THIS IS OUR SITE PLAN. WE ARE GOING TO BE ADDING APPROXIMATELY 13,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING THAT IS GOING TO BE THREE STORIES AND HOUSE 41 ADDITIONAL UNITS. UM, THE EXISTING THREE STORY BUILDING, THOSE 48 UNITS ARE DEEPLY AFFORDABLE. 30% A MI. UM, THE PLAN FOR THE ADDITIONAL UNITS, UM, IS NOT TO EXCEED 60% A MI, BUT WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS, UM, LOCALLY AND ACROSS THE STATE, UM, TO BE ABLE TO FURTHER SUBSIDIZE THOSE UNITS. BUT, UM, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO OUR PROJECT. UM, BUT ALSO VERY IMPORTANT TO THE HISTORIC WEST SIDE COMMUNITY THAT THE MAXIMUM A MI IS 60% HERE AND THAT IS WHAT THAT IS GOING TO BE. UM, THIS SHOULD BE A 50 60% RANGE UNLESS WE CAN FURTHER SUBSIDIZE IT. YOU WILL SEE THAT WE HAVE 35 PARKING SPACES STILL BEING PRESERVED. THIS IS A PRIVATE GATED PARKING LOT. UM, IT HAS BEEN, WILL CONTINUE TO BE THAT 35 SPACES, UM, IS LESS THAN 50% NO MATTER WHICH WAY YOU CUT IT. UM, TYPICALLY MULTIFAMILY IS ONE AND A HALF SPACES PER UNIT. UM, WE CANNOT GET, IF THAT IS THE CALCULATION, WE CANNOT GET ANYWHERE CLOSE TO 50%, UM, WITH THE IDC AND WE'LL HAVE TO GET A BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT. UM, HISTORICALLY THERE HAS ALSO BEEN, UM, SOME INTERPRETATIONS WHERE YOU CAN DO A ONE-TO-ONE RATIO, PARTICULARLY WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING. UM, AND SENIOR HOUSING. YOU CAN DO A ONE-TO-ONE RATIO. EVEN IF WE HAD A ONE-TO-ONE RATIO AND THE ADMINISTRATIVE 10% VARIANCE FOR THE PARKING, WE ARE STILL FIVE PARKING SPACES SHORT. THERE IS NO WAY THAT WE CAN ADD THESE 41 UNITS, UM, IN THE DESIGN THAT WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE COMMUNITY WITH. WE CANNOT ADD THIS BUILDING AND THIS SPACE AND GET TO 50% PARKING. SO, UM, WE REALLY DO STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT ZONING SHOULD BE UTILIZED TO AVOID VARIANCES WHEREVER POSSIBLE. UM, AND THAT IS A BIG DRIVER IN OUR MULTIFAMILY REQUEST. UM, NEXT SLIDE. SO I WILL KIND OF GO THROUGH THESE QUICKLY, BUT THIS IS THE BUILDING PLANS FOR PLANS FOR EACH OF THE FLOORS. AGAIN, THIS IS A THREE STORY UNIT, UM, THREE STORY BUILDING. WE HAVE TYPE A AND B. THOSE ARE ALL ONE BEDROOM UNITS. UM, BUT PART OF THE DISCUSSION WITH THE COMMUNITY AND PART OF THE, THE BUILDING PLANNING HERE IS TO ALSO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY AMENITIES WITHIN THIS BUILDING. IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO, UM, TO US TO THIS PROJECT. UM, AND, AND ELLEN WITH THE CESAR CHAVEZ FOUNDATION WHO OWNS AND OPERATES THIS PROPERTY IS HERE AS WELL, UM, CAN ANSWER AND ATTEST TO THIS TOO. IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE A GOOD QUALITY OF LIFE. I THINK THAT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT WITH ANY RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY, UM, BUT PARTICULARLY WITH SENIORS. SO HAVING THESE BUILT IN COMMUNITY AMENITY SPACES IN EACH FLOOR, UM, AND IN THIS PROJECT ITSELF, IN THIS BUILDING EXPANSION, UM, IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT. SO FIRST FLOOR, YOU SEE THE RECREATION AREA. THERE'S LOBBIES, THERE'S OFFICE SPACE. UM, THERE ARE FOUR 13 UNITS ON THE FIRST FLOOR, 14 UNITS ON THE SECOND AND THIRD FLOOR. THESE HAVE LAUNDRY ROOMS, UM, AND ADDITIONAL UNITS THERE. UM, PART OF THIS PROJECT IS ALSO GOING TO BE THE REHABILITATION OF THE EXISTING 48 UNITS AND THAT BUILDING ITSELF. SO WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE, AND I'LL HAVE AN EXHIBIT HERE IN A SECOND, UM, ALSO GOING TO BE UPDATING THAT [03:05:01] EXHIBIT, THOSE EXISTING UNITS AND THOSE COMMUNITY AMENITIES THERE. UM, THIS IS THE CURRENT DESIGN THAT IS ON, UM, THAT WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE COMMUNITY WITH. UM, IT WAS IMPORTANT TO WORK ON THE MATERIALS, THE PITCHING, SOME AWNINGS. UM, THERE IS A MAJORITY OF THE ROOF THAT IS FLAT BECAUSE WE ARE ADDING SOLAR PANELS HERE. UM, BUT WE HAVE WORKED THROUGH SEVERAL ITERATIONS OF DESIGNS WITH HISTORIC WEST SIDE COMMUNITY AND WE'LL BE CONTINUING TO DO SO. UM, WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA BE PARTNERING WITH THEM ON SOME LOCAL ARTISTS TO BRING IN SOME COLOR MURALS, MOSAIC, THAT SORT OF THING. UH, TO THE OUTSIDE OF THE PROJECT, WHAT WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING AESTHETICALLY TO ONE BUILDING. WE WILL ALSO BE CARRYING OVER INTO THE NEW, EXCUSE ME, INTO THE REHABILITATION FOR THE EXISTING. SO THIS IS THE CORNER OF WEST COMMERCE IN SOUTH TRINITY. THIS IS ON THE SOUTH TRINITY SIDE. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE TOWARDS THE BACK, THE, THE EXISTING STRUCTURE. NEXT SLIDE. UM, YOU CAN SEE THE PARKING THAT WE WILL STILL BE PROVIDING IN THESE RENDERINGS. UM, NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS A NICE VIEW OF THE PARKING, UM, THAT IS ALREADY EXISTING. IMPROVED, UM, SPACE THERE. NEXT SLIDE. UM, AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE INTERNAL, UM, BUT EXTERIOR BUT INTERNAL TO THE DEVELOPMENT AREA, UH, COMMUNITY OUTDOOR SPACES THAT WE'RE GONNA BE ADDING. IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE SOME ACTIVE RECREATIONAL SPACE INSIDE EACH OF THOSE UNITS THAT IS ACCESSIBLE, UM, BUT ALSO OUTSIDE. AND SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A NEW AREA THAT WILL BE ADDED IN. NEXT SLIDE. UM, THIS IS JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW. UM, AGAIN, THIS IS OWNED AND OPERATED THROUGH THE CESAR CHAVEZ FOUNDATION. UM, THIS IS, THESE ARE THE 50 PROJECTS. UM, THIS IS OVER 5,200 UNITS, UM, THAT THEY OWN OPERATE, INCLUDING, UM, THE VILLA RODRIGUEZ APARTMENTS HERE IN SAN ANTONIO, BUT THIS IS IN ARIZONA AND CALIFORNIA, NEW MEXICO, AND IN TEXAS. UM, OUT OF THOSE 5,200 PLUS UNITS, LESS THAN 800 OF THEM ARE NOT AFFORDABLE. THIS WILL BE A HUNDRED PERCENT AFFORDABLE. AS MENTIONED BEFORE, UM, THIS IS A HUNDRED PERCENT AFFORDABLE, A HUNDRED PERCENT SENIOR HOUSING. UM, AND REALLY, REALLY AN IMPORTANT, UM, ADDITION TO THIS COMMUNITY. UM, SO I DID MENTION WE, WE'VE BEEN ENGAGING WITH HISTORIC WEST SIDE. WE DID REACH OUT TO PROSPECT HILL. THEY HAVE NOT ENGAGED, UM, WITH US ON THIS, BUT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY WITH HISTORIC WEST SIDE ON THIS PROJECT SINCE APRIL. WE MET WITH THEM PRIOR TO FILING, UM, AND THEY WERE A DRIVER IN WHAT WE FILED FOR. UM, OUR LAST MEETING MOST RECENTLY WAS JUST LAST THURSDAY, UM, WHERE WE FINALIZED DESIGN, AESTHETICS, LAYOUT, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. UM, THEY HAVE BEEN REALLY INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING US, UM, GET THIS PROJECT THIS FAR. UM, AND THEY DID ISSUE THEIR FORMAL SUPPORT YESTERDAY. UM, SO AGAIN, WE ARE PROPOSING IT'S A TOTAL OF 89 UNITS, 48 EXISTING, UM, THAT ARE 30% A MI 41 ADDITIONAL IN THE NEW BUILDING. UM, REHABILITATION OF THE EXISTING. THIS IS A, UM, PROJECT THAT WE'RE SEEKING SOME CITY FUNDING ON, UM, AS WELL AS SOME TAX CREDITS. UM, ADDITION OF EXTRA COMMUNAL SPACES, COMMUNITY AMENITIES, UM, AND WE WILL BE PRESERVING THE IDZ OVERLAY DOES ALLOW US TO EFFECTIVELY WAIVE ALL PARKING. UM, BUT IT DOES NOT REQUIRE US TO WAIVE ALL PARKING. SO, UM, THERE IS GOING TO BE AMPLE SPACE. THIS PROPERTY'S BEEN IN OPERATION FOR OVER 40 YEARS AND WE TOOK THE FUNCTIONALITY OF THAT PARKING LOT TODAY, UM, AND LOOKED AT IT OVER THE 40 YEARS AND KNEW WHAT PARKING WAS REALLY NEEDED, UM, FOR THIS COMMUNITY AND TO SERVE ITS RESIDENTS. SO WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT. UM, MYSELF AND ELLEN WITH THE FOUNDATION ARE ALSO HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. THIS IS, OH, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO, WE DO NOT. OKAY. DISTRICT FIVE CASE. SO COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I HAVE LOTS OF COMMENTS, IF THAT HELPS. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. UH, QUESTIONS. FELLOW COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? NONE. OKAY. COMMISSIONER ON MY RIGHT. COMMISSIONER HUEY? YEAH. UH, QUESTION ON YOUR FLOOR PLAN PLEASE? MM-HMM, . THESE ARE SENIOR APARTMENTS. I DIDN'T SEE WHERE THERE GOING TO BE IN THE ELEVATORS. OH YES, THERE IS. HERE. I'LL SHOW YOU SIDE. YEAH, NEXT ONE. SORRY. OH GOD, I CAN'T EVEN SEE. UM, OH, THERE IT IS. I'M SORRY. IT'S JUST VERY SMALL. IT'S HARD FOR ME TO SEE. SO THE ELEVATOR IS RIGHT HERE IN THAT LOBBY. SO THIS IS, UM, THIS UNIT C FOR REFERENCE. SORRY, EMILY, CAN YOU SPEAK INTO, THANK YOU. YES. SORRY. UM, THE UNIT C RIGHT HERE, THIS LARGER UNIT THAT'S FOR ONSITE MANAGEMENT, BUT THIS IS THE ENTRY TO THE BUILDING LOBBY OFFICES. UM, AND THE ELEVATOR IS HERE. SO YES, WE HAVE AN ELEVATOR, I ASSURE YOU. [03:10:01] THANK YOU. MM-HMM, . ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMERS ON MY, UH, COMMISSIONER CHASE, COULD YOU, UM, TELL ME IF, UM, HOW YOUR SERVICES, DO THEY HAVE, UM, THEIR OWN PRIVATE, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE A SMALL VAN THAT TAKES PEOPLE TO THEIR APPOINTMENTS? HOW IF THEY ARE NOT USING CARS, DO MOST RESIDENTS MOVE AROUND? SO, YES. UM, AND I AND ELLEN MAY, YEAH, I THINK SHE PROBABLY GOT A BETTER ANSWER THAN I DO. WELL, SO FIRST I WANNA START BY SAYING, UH, THANKS FOR STAYING LATE AND LISTENING TO US. UH, BUT THE DRIVING FORCE BEHIND US TRYING TO REDESIGN THE PROPERTY IS THAT THERE HAS BEEN THIS EMPTY PARKING LOT JUST SITTING THERE FOR NO REASON FOR 40 YEARS. ESSENTIALLY, UH, MAYBE 10% OF THE SPOT SPOTS ARE EVER USED. UH, BUT THE PROPERTY IS ON A BUS ROUTE AND THAT IS THE PREDOMINANT MEANS OF TRANSPORTATION FOR OUR LOW INCOME SENIORS. AND IF YOU COULD JUST STATE YOUR NAME REAL QUICK SO WE HAVE IT IN, I'M SORRY. UH, ELLEN MOSSEK WITH THE CAESAR CHAVEZ FOUNDATION. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, UH, I HAVE ONE. OKAY, SO THE, THE BUS ROUTE IS THIS ON THE, IT IS, IT'S ON THE SILVER LINE. GOTCHA. ALRIGHT, BACK TO YOU COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE. JUST, WHICH IS ONE OF MY POINTS. OKAY. UM, NO, I LISTEN. UH, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT PROJECT. LET'S START THERE. WE NEED MORE SENIOR HOUSING. WE NEED NEED MORE SENIOR HOUSING ON THE HISTORIC WEST SIDE. UM, UNDERSTANDING, I THINK THAT STAFF'S OPINION COMES FROM THE IDEA THAT THIS REMAINS TEXAS AND INDIVIDUAL VEHICLES REMAIN THE PRIMARY MODE OF TRANSPORT FOR THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE. THAT BEING SAID, YOU KNOW, I THINK GETTING THIS PROPERTY PARKED AT 50% IS COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY. UH, SO EVEN THE IDZ THREE WITH THE 50% REQUIREMENT IS TO, TO ME, TO SOME DEGREE ABSURD. AND IF WE HAVE ANOTHER TOOL TO AVOID A VARIANCE, WHICH WE DO UNDER THE UDC, WE OUGHT TO USE IT. AND THIS IS A PERFECT CASE FOR IT. THIS IS A CASE FOR THE IDZ OVERLAY WITH NO PARKING REQUIREMENT. UM, THE INDIVIDUALS HERE, YOU KNOW, FOR THE MOST PART, AND, AND I THINK IN MANY CASES NEVER OWNED CARS OR AT LEAST DIDN'T FREQUENTLY OWN CARS. UM, IT'S ON A MAJOR BUS ROUTE ROUTE ALREADY. IT'S GONNA BE PART OF, UM, THE ADVANCED RAPID TRANSIT WITH THE SILVER LINE THROUGH VIA, UH, THIS IS THE KIND OF THING WE WANT TO SEE, UM, WITH OUR TRANSIT ORIENT, TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT. AND SO FOR ALL OF THOSE REASONS, UM, I MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER 16 AS SUBMITTED NOW. SECOND? SECOND. ALRIGHT. TOO LATE. TOO LATE. ALRIGHT. THERE'S A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED BY COMMISSIONER BUSMAN WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ. UM, DISCUSSION, LOOKING LEFT. UH, NOTHING JUST, I'M KIND OF BACK UP WHAT COMMISSIONER BUSANTE SAID, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY NEEDED IN THIS AREA AND I THINK SOMETHING LIKE THIS KIND OF SETS THE PRECEDENCE FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO COME IN AND DO THE SAME THING AND DEVELOP IN THIS AREA. THAT'S GREATLY NEEDED. SO THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. UH, COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT. ANY UH, COMMISSIONER OSA? I HAD A QUESTION. YEAH. AND I SUPPORT AND AGREE WITH MR. OR WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER BUSMAN, BUT I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION WHICH WON'T CHANGE MY MIND, BUT, UH, DID YOU MENTION STAFF PARKING? LIKE WHERE DOES THE STAFF, HOW MANY STAFF DO YOU HAVE AND, AND WHAT DO THEY CURRENTLY PARK? TWO TO THREE STAFF MEMBERS AT ANY GIVEN TIME. AND SO THEY'LL PARK HERE IN THIS CONTROLLED PARKING SPACE AS WELL. EVEN WITH, EVEN WITH THE NEW THREE? YES. OKAY. THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH PARKING HERE FOR THEM AS WELL. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. GOOD QUESTION. ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? AND NONE. ALRIGHT. MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES. COMMISSIONER NOOSA? YES. COMMISSIONER REYES? YES. COMMISSIONER HUI AYE. COMMISSIONER EP? YES. YES. COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES. CHAIR SIPES? YES. ITEM PASSES. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. I BELIEVE [Approval of Minutes  ] THE LAST ITEM IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. IS THAT CORRECT? ALRIGHT. IS THERE COMMISSIONER TSET? I HAVE A POSSIBLE, UH, ADDITION PAGE FOUR. [03:15:15] I'M SORRY, I FORGOT TO SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE. IT'S PAGE FOUR 14, UH, ON THE MINUTES. RUDY NINO. AND WHAT I'M PROPOSING IS TO ADD AT THE END THAT MR. NINO ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THE STARBRITE AGREEMENT EXISTS IN HIS TALK LAST, AT OUR LAST SESSION. ALRIGHT, AND CAN I GET CLARIFICATION? ARE WE, CAN WE ADD THAT? WELL, HE CAN MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND. IT'S JUST LIKE ANYTHING ELSE. IS THERE A SECOND? YOU ALL VOTE ON IT AND THEN IT GETS AS THE, AS YOU ALL AGREE TO VOTE ON IT. OKAY. THAT'S MY MOTION. ALRIGHT, IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND. IS THAT YOU COMMISSIONER REYES? YES IT IS. OKAY. SORRY, I HEARD IT'S LIKE IT'S ON THIS SIDE SOMEWHERE. ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION TO, UM, TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES WITH THE ADDITION AS SUGGESTED BY, UH, COMMISSIONER WHITSETT. UM, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ALL. ANY OPPOSED? AYE. ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE IN OPPOSITION. ALRIGHT, MINUTES ARE APPROVED. AND DO WE HAVE A DIRECTOR'S REPORT? NO DIRECTOR'S REPORT. ALRIGHT, WELL THANK YOU ALL FOR THIS MEETING. UM, WE'RE GETTING, GETTING PREPARED, GETTING EXERCISING FOR THE LONG ONE IN A COUPLE WEEKS. SO, UM, THE TIME IS 4 37 AND THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY SAN ANTONIO IS ADJOURNED. . * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.