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WE WILL CALL THE JUNE 26TH, 2024 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER.
WOULD STAFF PLEASE DO THE ROLL CALL? COMMISSIONER FAULKNER HERE.
YOU HERE? COMMISSIONER ORIAN? HERE.
I CAN'T READ ANY OF THIS HERE.
CAN WE PLEASE HAVE THE SPANISH ENGLISH INTERPRETER WHEN I START THIS? THANK YOU.
UH, MOVING FORWARD TODAY WE'LL HAVE TWO AGENDAS.
WE WILL HAVE THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH IS EVERYTHING THAT, UH, MEETS CODE.
NO ONE IS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, AND THERE'S NO, UH, COMMISSIONERS HAVE NOT PULLED IT FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.
WE WILL ALSO HAVE THE INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION AGENDA, WHICH IS EVERYTHING ELSE.
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SO WE'LL GET STARTED ON THE COMBINED HEARING AGENDA AND THE WAY I SEE IT RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE ITEMS 16, 17, 18, AND 19 ON INDIVIDUAL.AND ITEM 13, I MEAN, I'M SORRY, ITEM NINE.
UH, THERE'S NO, THERE WAS A MAILED IN, BUT WE DON'T NEED TO ADDRESS THAT DURING THE THAT IS CORRECT, THE HEARING.
THERE WAS SOMEBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
SO, UH, THAT PERSON IS ALMA ROSA GARZA HERE.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO APPROACH THE PODIUM AND SPEAK? ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
NOW YOU CAN TAKE MY THREE MINUTES.
UH, MY NAME IS ALMAR ROSA GARZA.
MY ADDRESS IS 1803 CASSANDRA, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 2 4.
AND THE REASON I'M HERE IS BECAUSE I RECEIVED, UH, SAYING THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO BUILD SOME TWO HOMES BEHIND MY HOUSE.
UM, WHEN I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY WHERE I'M AT, I WAS TOLD THAT THAT VACANT LOT WAS NEVER GONNA BE SOLD BECAUSE IT BELONGED TO BARET.
SO I'M OPPOSING THOSE TWO HOMES NOT ONLY FOR THAT REASON, ALSO BECAUSE OF THE TAXES.
UH, NOBODY EVER TOLD US THAT THAT PROPERTY WAS UP FOR SALE AND FOR THAT REASON, I'M OPPOSING OR I NEED MORE INSIDE OF WHAT'S GOING ON.
IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, YOU CAN TALK TO THE STAFF AND THEY'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.
UM, JUST, JUST SO YOU KNOW, UM, WHILE ME ASK STAFF THIS, THIS PLAT MEETS ALL REQUIREMENTS OF THE UDC, CORRECT? YES, IT DOES.
BY STATE LAW, THIS COMMISSION HAS TO APPROVE A PLAT THAT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF STATE LAW OF, OF OUR UDC.
SO THAT MEANS THAT THEY'RE GONNA BUILD TWO HOMES RIGHT THERE IN THAT SMALL LOCK.
SO THEN WHAT'S THE PURPOSE? WELL, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE BILLING PERMIT PROCESS AND ALL THAT OTHER THING, BUT WE WILL HAVE, WE WILL HAVE TO APPROVE THE PLAT BY LAW.
AND MR. CHAIR, WE CAN STEP OUT TO SPEAK WITH HER AFTER, UH, THE ITEM IS CONSIDERED CORRECT.
THERE'S NOBODY ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK OR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? ALL RIGHT.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
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ITEM 16.MY NAME IS SAMANTHA BENAVIDES, PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER 16 IS A REQUEST TO APPROVE OF APPRO, A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL FOR A RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE NOLITA SOUTH SMO COMMUNITY PLAN FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO MIXED USE, LOCATED AT 6 0 8 SOUTH PARK BOULEVARD.
THERE WERE 26 NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED WITHIN 200 FEET.
AND COLLINS GARDEN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN OPPOSITION OF THE REQUEST.
THE APPLICANT SEEKS A PLAN AMENDMENT, UM, TO
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REZONE TO IDZ THREE, UH, WITH A PERMITTED USES FOR EIGHT UNITS.THIS IS THE PROPOSED PLAN AMENDMENT FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO MIXED USES REQUESTED TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO IDZ THREE HIGH INTENSITY INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR EIGHT UNITS WITHIN THE NOGA LETO SOUTH ZUMO COMMUNITY PLAN.
THE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL LAND USE DESIGNATION RECOMMENDS A MAX DENSITY OF ONE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT PER SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE PER LOT.
INTRODUCING THE PROPOSED MIXED USE LAND USE IS OUT OF CHARACTER IN THAT IT WOULD BE INTRODUCING A HIGHER DENSITY THAT IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THE AREA AND INCREASES THE POTENTIAL FOR COMMERCIAL ENCROACHMENT AND AN ESTABLISHED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? I DON'T.
IS THE APPLICANT HERE? UM, WHEN I SPOKE WITH HIM, HE SAID HE WOULD BE HERE.
IT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE HE'S HERE.
AND THERE IS ONE PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS CECILIA CHOPPA.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? COME ON UP.
OH, THAT WAS, UH, IF YOU'LL JUST STATE YOUR NAME.
THE ADDRESS IS SIX 12 SOUTH PARK BOULEVARD, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 0 4.
MY, UM, OPPOSITION TO THE DEVELOPMENT NEXT DOOR TO US, UH, BECAUSE OF THE, UM, CHILDREN RIGHT NEXT TO, UM, MY HOUSE SIX 12.
AND IN PREVIOUS OCCASIONS, UH, PREVIOUS LANDLORD HAD DRUG PEOPLE DYING INSIDE THE HOUSE AND THE SMELL AND NOBODY WAS ATTENDING TO THE PROPERTY.
AND IT'S THE HAZARD OF DRUGS COMING INTO THE PROPERTY.
AND IT'S ALWAYS BEEN, YOU KNOW, LOW DENSITY COMMUNITY.
THE, THEN THEY WANNA MAKE IT LIKE A BUSINESS AND PARK IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE AND CHILDREN PLAYING THERE AND A LOT OF TENANTS COMING IN AND OUT OF THE PROPERTY.
AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY COMING FROM.
SOME ARE FROM OTHER STATES COMING FOR A DAY OR TWO, OR LIKE B AND BI GUESS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CALL IT, BUT IT'S NOT A SINGLE PROPERTY, I MEAN A FAMILY.
SO I STILL DUNNO WHAT I, SO I'M OPPOSITION TO IT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
THAT IS EVERYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
SO WE'LL MOVE TO COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS.
WE'LL START ON THE LEFT WITH COMMISSIONER LOPEZ.
QUESTION, UH, QUESTION FOR STAFF.
DOES THE CURRENT LAND USE DESIGNATION ALLOW FOR A DUPLEX OF WHAT THE CONDITIONAL ZONING IT DOES? THE, UM, ACTUAL PERMITTED ZONING IS A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A DUPLEX.
NO QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS, NO QUESTIONS.
UH, WELL, IT'S PRETTY DISAPPOINTING THAT THE APPLICANT IS NOT HERE TO REPRESENT.
IT'S PRETTY DISAPPOINTING THAT THE APPLICANT IS NOT HERE TO REPRESENT THEMSELVES AND TALK ABOUT THEIR REQUEST.
UM, YES, WE NEED TO PROVIDE MORE HOUSING IN SAN ANTONIO, BUT WE, YOU KNOW, NOT IN CASES WHERE IT CREATES AN UNHEALTHY ENVIRONMENT FOR THE NEIGHBORS TO LIVE IN.
AND CERTAINLY NOT IN CASES WHERE, UM, CONSTRUCTION AND DWELLINGS ARE CREATED THAT ARE NOT PERMITTED AND NOT ALLOWED FOR THEIR USE.
SO, UM, I GUESS I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, BUT I AGREE WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER SIEGEL'S COMMENT.
UM, IT'S UNFORTUNATELY THE APPLICANT ISN'T HERE.
IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS ON THIS? IF NOT, WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
CAN WE HAVE A MOTION FOR DENIAL BY COMMISSIONER PROFIT? A SECOND BY MILAM.
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PROFIT? YES.UM, I APPEAR TO HAVE MISSED A PERSON PER SOMEBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR ITEM NUMBER NINE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
HIS BRONTE FAIR PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER 17 IS A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE HERITAGE PORT SAN ANTONIO REGIONAL CENTER PLAN FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO URBAN MIXED USE LOCATED AT 7 7 0 2 SOUTHWEST LOOP FOUR 10.
THERE ARE 59 NOTICES MAILED ZERO OR IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED.
AND THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
THE APPLICANT SEEKS A PLAN AMENDMENT TO URBAN MIXED USE TO REZONE TO MXD MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
THE PROPOSED PLAN AMENDMENT FROM LOAD DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO URBAN MIXED USE IS A REQUEST TO REZONE TO MXD WITH A MAXIMUM DENSITY OF 30 UNITS.
THE PROPOSED URBAN MIX USE IS INAPPROPRIATE AND INCONSISTENT WITH BUTING LAND.
USES THE EXISTING LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL PERMIT, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES, WHICH IS CHARACTERISTIC OF THE EXISTING SURROUNDING AREA.
INTRODUCING URBAN MIXED USE TO THE AREA WOULD ALLOW THE INTRODUCTION OF MORE DENSE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES TO THE CURRENT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
THERE IS REGIONAL MIXED USE NEARBY, HOWEVER, IT IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF LOOP FOUR 10 AND IS CURRENTLY VACANT.
LAND STAFF RECOMMENDS DE DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO APPROACH THE PODIUM NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.
EMILY WEISLER WITH KILLING GRIFFIN AND FAIRMAN 1 0 1 0 1 REUNION PLACE, SUITE TWO 50 HERE ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER.
UM, SO AS STAFF MENTIONED, UM, THIS PROPERTY'S JUST A BIT OVER A FIVE ACRES, UM, ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF FLUKE FOUR 10.
WE HAVE OLD PEER SALTED SOUTH RAILS INTO NORTH, UM, AND OUR EASTERN PROPERTY LINE, UM, IS ALONG WALNUT VALLEY DRIVE.
THIS IS A LARGER AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
YOU CAN SEE CUBESMART SELF STORAGE TO OUR SOUTH, UM, THE FREEDOM HILLS, HOA, UM, WHICH IS NOT REGISTERED WITH THE CITY, BUT WE WERE DID COORDINATE WITH DISTRICT FOUR ON GETTING THEIR CONTACT INFORMATION.
WE DID REACH OUT MULTIPLE TIMES, UM, AND THEY HAVE AS WELL, WE'VE NOT GOTTEN FEEDBACK FROM THEM, BUT WE'LL CONTINUE OUR EFFORTS TO GET IN TOUCH, UM, WITH THEM TO OUR NORTH.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THE FREEDOM HILLS RANCH APARTMENTS, UM, WHICH IS AN MF 33 TO THE NORTH.
UM, A KIND OF A MIX OF USES OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL ALONG THIS FOUR 10 FRONTAGE.
SO THE TRIGGER OF OUR PLAN AMENDMENT REQUEST IS A REZONING REQUEST FROM R SIX TO MXD.
UM, I THINK THERE'S A TYPO IN THE STAFF REPORT, BUT THAT IS FOR A MAXIMUM DENSITY OF 30 UNITS PER ACRE.
UM, SO THAT GETS US JUST RIGHT AROUND 150 UNITS.
UM, BASED ON OUR RECENT, UM, DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR CLIENT, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT CLOSER TO ABOUT A HUNDRED, 120 UNITS.
UM, AND I'LL EXPLAIN WHAT THOSE UNITS ARE FOR AND HOW THIS IS GOING TO, UM, ALL COME TOGETHER.
UM, BUT THE INTENT OF THIS PROJECT IS FOR COMMERCIAL IN THE FRONTAGE.
UM, AND THEN A SMALL A HUNDRED, MAYBE 120 UNIT, UH, SENIOR INDEPENDENT LIVING APARTMENT COMPLEX.
UM, SO INDEPENDENT LIVING RESIDENTS, THEY'RE SENIORS, ALL SENIORS.
UM, THIS WOULD BE, UM, NOT NECESSARILY CAPITAL A AFFORDABLE, UM, BUT RIGHT AROUND A THOUSAND, NO MORE THAN $1,500 A MONTH.
UM, THE GOAL IS TO PROVIDE SLIGHTLY SMALLER UNITS, UM, BUT LARGER COMMUNAL LIVING SPACES.
SO LIKE A LARGE, UH, CAFETERIA DINING HALL, BIG AMENITIES, A LOT OF PLACES FOR THESE SENIORS TO GATHER, UM, AND COMMUNE TOGETHER WHERE WE CAN OFFER ADDITIONAL SERVICES TO.
AND THE GOAL OF THE COMMERCIAL ON THE FRONTAGE IS GOING TO BE OFFICE MEDICAL SERVICES, COMMUNITY ORIENTED COMMERCIAL, UM, TO NOT ONLY SUPPORT THE EXISTING RESIDENTS, BUT ALSO TO SUPPORT THE SENIORS COMING ON, UM, ONTO THIS PROPERTY AS WELL.
UH, THE PROPERTY OWNER IS A DOCTOR OF PHYSICAL THERAPY.
UM, HE IS A LICENSED NURSING FACILITY ADMINISTRATOR, RUNS LEGEND OAKS OFF OF WEST HUTCHINS PLACE.
IT'S A HEALTHCARE AND REHAB FACILITY.
UM, SO WORKS WITH SENIORS DAY IN AND
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DAY OUT.UM, AND THIS IS A REALLY, REALLY NEAT PROJECT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE, UM, SENIOR LIVING INDEPENDENT SERVICES, UM, AND SENIOR INDEPENDENT LIVING HOUSING ON SITE, BUT WITH ALSO KIND OF ALL OF THE AMENITIES THAT MAYBE YOU DON'T NECESSARILY GET IN A TRADITIONAL RETIREMENT COMMUNITY OR ANY SORT OF OTHER SENIOR LIVING THING.
SO WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO BRING IN THOSE SUPPORTIVE COMMERCIAL MEDICAL FACILITIES, UM, TO THE SITE AS WELL.
UM, AND SUPPORT NOT ONLY AGAIN, THE PROPOSED SENIOR RESIDENTS ON SITE, BUT ALSO THE LARGER COMMUNITY HERE.
UM, YOU CAN SEE ON THIS ZONING MAP THAT THERE IS A MYRIAD OF COMMERCIAL INTENSITY AND RESIDENTIAL DENSITY, SINGLE FAMILY MULTIFAMILY OF VARYING INTENSITY AND DENSITIES, AGAIN, ALONG THE FOUR 10 FRONTAGE.
THIS IS, UM, THE MXD PLAN DOESN'T NECESSARILY GIVE A WHOLE LOT OF INFORMATION, BUT, UM, SOME THINGS OF NOTE HERE, AGAIN, WE'RE PLANNING, UH, PRIMARY ACCESS ON LOOP FOUR 10 OFF OF THE FRONTAGE ROAD.
UM, YOU CANNOT GO THROUGH RESIDENTIAL TO ACCESS COMMERCIAL, SO, UM, ANY ACCESS ON WALNUT VALLEY DRIVE WOULD BE SECONDARY.
AND FOR, FOR RESIDENTIAL PRIMARILY.
UM, SO COMMERCIAL ALONG THE LOOP, FOUR 10 FRONTAGE WITHIN THE MXD, YOU MAY NOT HAVE ANY STRUCTURES WITHIN 25 FEET OF A BUDDING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE.
UM, AND THEN HEIGHT IS LIMITED WITHIN 50 FEET OF A BUDDING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE TO TWO AND A HALF STORIES AND 35 FEET.
WE ARE NOT ANTICIPATING ANYTHING MORE THAN THREE STORIES, BUT THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE CONCENTRATED BECAUSE OF THE SINGLE FAMILY ON BOTH SIDES OF THE PROPERTY.
THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE CONCENTRATED RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, THE, THE PROPERTY IS NOT NECESSARILY PARTICULARLY DEEP, UM, NORTH TO SOUTH.
UM, SO, UM, THERE ARE THOSE BUILT IN LIMITATIONS TO PROVIDE THE NECESSARY SETBACKS, HEIGHT, LIMITATION, INTENSITY, AND KIND OF BUFFER IN THOSE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES TO ANY MIXED USE COMMERCIAL, ANY MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT HERE.
SO ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE BUILT INTO THE MXD, UM, AND OUR, OUR PART OF OUR PLAN AS WELL.
UM, SO THE REASON WE'RE REALLY HERE IS THE LAND USE AMENDMENT TODAY.
SO PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY DESIGNATED LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, WHICH MAKES SENSE.
UM, WE ARE PROPOSING A REQUEST TO URBAN MIXED USE, WHICH ALLOWS A, A VARIETY OF DENSITIES OF MULTIFAMILY AND COMMERCIAL.
UM, AND I'LL SHOW YOU THAT NEXT.
UM, WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS PLAN WAS ADOPTED, UM, AT THE END OF 2021.
THERE STILL IS A PLAN AMENDMENT PROCESS.
UM, A LOT OF TIMES THESE LAND USE PLANS ARE BASED ON WHAT IS EXISTING.
THIS IS AN EXISTING R SIX VACANT LOT.
UM, THERE IS A NEED FOR ADDITIONAL SENIOR HOUSING.
THERE'S A NEED FOR ADDITIONAL HOUSING.
UM, THERE'S ALSO A NEED, I THINK, FOR ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL COMMUNITY DRIVEN SERVICES IN THIS COMMUNITY, PARTICULARLY ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF FOUR 10.
AND THAT'S WHAT THIS PROJECT IS PROPOSING TO DO.
UM, URBAN MIXED USE, AGAIN, MEDIUM INTENSITY.
UM, IT IS DESIGNED AS YOU CAN SEE, PERMITTED ZONING DISTRICTS, RMS MFS, LOW INTENSITY TO MEDIUM INTENSITY COMMERCIAL.
ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE APPROPRIATE ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF LOOP FOUR 10 PROPERTY THAT FRONTS, UM, AND ACCESS PRIMARILY ON LOOP FOUR 10.
UM, BUT ALSO AS A BALANCE TO TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY AND MUCH MORE INTENSE COMMERCIAL.
UM, AND MULTIFAMILY, WHICH DOES EXIST KIND OF ALL AROUND US IN OUR MAJOR STRETCH BETWEEN RAISON AN AND OLD PURE SOUL.
UM, ONE OF THE FACTORS OF URBAN MIXED USE IS THAT IT SHOULD BE IN GENERAL PROXIMITY TO TRANSIT SERVICES.
UM, THIS IS JUST A QUICK MAP, UM, AND I'LL SHOW YOU WITH MY FANCY POINTER.
SO THE PROPERTY IS KINDA DOWN HERE RIGHT BY THE SIX 19 LINE.
UM, SO THIS IS JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF, OF CURRENT BUS SERVICES THROUGH VIA.
UM, WE ARE ALSO IN PROXIMITY TO THE KELLOGG TRANSIT CENTER AND THE MADLA TRANSIT CENTER AS WELL.
UM, SO THERE ARE TRANSIT SERVICES IN THE AREA.
WE ARE NOT CREATING A SITUATION WHERE THERE IS, THERE'S NO TRANSIT SERVICE AVAILABLE.
UM, THERE IS HERE, AND THAT CONTINUES TO GROW ALL THE TIME.
BUT THAT IS A, A FUNCTION OF URBAN MIXED USE.
AND WE WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THERE IS TRANSIT IN THE AREA.
I THINK THIS VIEW IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT.
UM, IF YOU ZOOM ALL THE WAY IN, YES, IT'S A LOT OF LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, BUT THAT IS NOT INDICATIVE OF WHAT THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT PATTERN HERE.
UM, ALONG, UH, LOOP FOUR 10 AND MAJOR THOROUGH BEAR, UM, REALLY LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, WE HAVE REGIONAL MIXED USE.
WE HAVE REGIONAL COMMERCIAL, UM, YOU CAN SEE KIND OF RIGHT ALMOST BEFORE YOU GET TO WALNUT VALLEY DRIVE.
IT'S A, IT'S AN ODD LITTLE PULLOUT HERE, BUT THIS IS EMPLOYMENT FLEX MIXED USE, UM, RIGHT IN SURROUNDING, SURROUNDED BY SINGLE FAMILY, LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
SO THERE IS A LOT OF MIX OF USES.
WE FEEL THAT URBAN LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IS MINIMALLY INTENSE.
IT IS A RESPONSIBLE, APPROPRIATE TRANSITION, UM, BETWEEN SINGLE FAMILY, LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND THINGS LIKE REGIONAL MIXED USE, HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, REGIONAL COMMERCIAL IN THE AREA, AND ALSO AS EXTREMELY APPROPRIATE ALONG LOOP FOUR 10.
UM, I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT
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TODAY, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.UH, NO ONE HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, SO WE'LL MOVE TO COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS.
WE'LL START OVER HERE ON THE RIGHT.
COMMISSIONER SIPES, NO QUESTIONS.
I THINK THIS HOUSING TYPE IS, UH, BADLY NEEDED IN SAN ANTONIO, AND I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS PROJECT OR THIS PLAN AMENDMENT.
UM, MXD, THE MOST INTENSE COMMERCIAL COMPONENT WOULD BE C TWO.
IS THAT RIGHT? ON THE FRONTAGE OR WHEREVER THEY DECIDE TO BUILD IT? UM, IT WOULD NEED TO ALIGN WITH THE URBAN MIXED USE.
AND THE HIGHEST, YES, THE HIGHEST INTENSE COMMERCIAL USE WAS C TWO.
SO YES, C TWO WOULD BE THE MOST INTENSE, UM, PERMITTED COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
AND AGAIN, UH, RESPECTFUL STAFF AND UNDERSTANDING HOW THESE PLANS WORK.
UM, BUT LOOKING AT WHAT'S AROUND IT, I MEAN, THERE'S C TWO MELY ADJACENT TO IT.
UM, AND I THINK BALANCING THAT WITH THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY, UM, I THINK I'D BE, I'LL BE SUPPORTING THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST ON THIS ITEM.
I HAVE NO QUESTIONS AND NO COMMENTS.
WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION I MOVE TO APPROVE.
WHO IS THE MOTION TO APPROVE? UH, DONALD, MR. DONALD ORIAN.
AND THERE WAS ABOUT FOUR SECONDS.
COMMISSIONER SIEGEL, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.
UM, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, RUDY NINO.
I'M THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF THE CITY'S PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
UM, WE ARE BACK TODAY RELATED TO THE, UH, CONTINUANCE THAT WAS REQUESTED BY THE COMMISSION AT YOUR LAST MEETING.
UM, RIGHT NOW YOU'RE GETTING COPIES OF THE LETTERS OF SUPPORT, UH, FOR THE REGIONAL CENTER PLAN FROM THE ALAMO COLLEGES, UH, DISTRICT, FROM THE NRP GROUP, UH, FROM THE SOUTH TEXAS BUSINESS PARTNERSHIP FROM SOUTH STAR, AND THE VITA HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, THE TEXAS A AND M UNIVERSITY SAN ANTONIO, AND VIA METROPOLITAN TRANSIT.
UM, THE PRESENTATION TODAY IS SIMILAR TO THE ONE THAT YOU SAW PREVIOUSLY.
SO I, I DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, GIVE YOU A PRESENTATION THAT YOU HAVE ALREADY SEEN.
UM, I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE COPIES THAT Y'ALL REQUESTED, UH, SOME TIME TO REVIEW.
SO I WILL BE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT Y'ALL MIGHT HAVE, UH, MR. CHAIR FOLLOWING THE, THE COMMENTS FROM THE COMMUNITY IF YOU'D LIKE.
UH, WE HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
FIRST IS A VOICEMAIL, JACK AND FINGER.
A FEW MINUTES AGO I MADE, HAD SOME BAD PROBLEMS AND I COULDN'T GET FINISHED WITH MY MESSAGE.
I LIVE AT 9 0 1 WEST MULBERRY IN SAN ANTONIO.
PHONE NUMBER IS AREA CODE TWO TEN FOUR FOUR NINE ONE TWO ONE FIVE.
MAY I SPEAK TO ITEMS NUMBER 18? THE, THE TEXAS A AND M PLAN.
NOW TRY AND DO THIS, RIGHT? I WANT TO START FROM THE BEGINNING AND SAY THAT DEVELOPERS HAVE HAD A BAD REPUTATION IN OUR CITY.
NOW, MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, DO YOU WANT TO ADD YOUR NAME TO THIS BAD REPUTATION? TOYOTA IS BECOMING THE 800 POUND GORILLA ON THIS ISSUE.
THE CITY HAS CAVED IN, I GUESS, CAVED INTO THEIR DEMAND FOR ANOTHER 10 YEAR TAX DEBATE THAT TOTALING MILLIONS OF OUR TAX DOLLARS, OUR TAX DOLLARS ON TOP OF THE ONE GIVEN TO TOYOTA YEARS AGO.
NOW, YOU CAN NOW AFFORD, YES, I SAY YOU CAN AFFORD TO, TO ALREADY GIVEN THEM THIS THING.
YOU CAN NOW TELL 'EM, OKAY, TOYOTA, NO MORE.
YOU CAN FOR NOW AFFORD TO SAY NO TO THIS CRAZY PLAN THAT TAKES AWAY PROPERTY RIGHTS.
RISK MORE LAWSUITS REGARDING HOUSING DISCRIMINATION.
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YOU REALLY WANT THAT? WELL, THEN, DO, I DON'T THINK YOU DO.NOW, MY SUGGESTION IS DO WHAT YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE LAST TIME AND SAY NO TO THIS DARN THING PERMANENTLY.
AND FRANKLY, QUITE FRANKLY, LEAVE US ALL ALONE.
OKAY, FIRST PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IS JOHN WHITSETT.
NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
WHO'S DONATING TIME NAME? MONICA.
CAN Y'ALL PASS THAT OUT TO EACH OF THE, UH, AND YOU'VE GOT, OKAY, SO YOU'LL HAVE SIX MINUTES.
UH, SORRY TO COME BACK AGAIN FOR A THIRD SHOT AT THIS, BUT, UH, I THINK THAT, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I, I, YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, OH, EXCUSE ME.
JOHN WHITSETT, 2 0 3 HASKIN DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO, UH, TEXAS 7 8 2 0 9.
BUT I, I BELIEVE THAT THEY DID MAKE SOME GOOD MODIFICATIONS LAST TIME.
UM, I AT LEAST WANNA POINT OUT THE MAPS UP HERE.
THIS IS, UH, A ZONING MAP THAT I HAD MADE.
IT'S, THE COLORS ARE NOT AS GOOD AS THAT THEY SHOULD BE, BUT THAT KIND OF PURPLISH GRAY UP THERE IS THE INDUSTRIAL ZONING.
AND IF YOU CAN SEE THE NOTES, 10,000, AROUND 10,000 ACRES IS ALREADY ZONED INDUSTRIAL.
UH, AND THE MAJORITY OF THE TEXAS A AND M AREA IS ZONED INDUSTRIAL.
UH, THE PORTION UP WHERE TEXAS A AND M HAS SOME INDUSTRIAL, AND THEN THE REST IS A AND M'S CAMPUS, OR MURANO, SOUTH STAR, ET CETERA.
AND THEN TO THE SOUTH OF TOYOTA, ALL THAT GREEN IS THE CITY'S LAND HERITAGE, THEIR FLOODPLAIN, WHICH WILL SHOW ON ANOTHER MAP IN A MINUTE.
AND THEN, UH, MORE JUST RESOURCE PROTECTION AND THEN A LOT OF COUNTY LAND.
SO, UM, LET ME GO TO THE, IF YOU COULD GO TO THE NEXT MAP.
UH, YOU WANNA PUSH THE SPACE BAR? IT'S ALL YOU.
UH, BUT IT DOES SHOW THE FLOODPLAIN IT ALL THE BLUE SHOWS THE PROTECTION THAT TOYOTA ALREADY HAS IN PLACE, JUST FROM FLOODPLAIN TO WHERE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE COMPLETELY UNREALISTIC AND UNLIKELY TO EVER HAPPEN.
UM, NOW IF YOU'LL GO TO THE NEXT MAP, THESE ARE SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT I STILL HAVE WITH THE PLAN.
A LOT OF IT SEEMS TO COME ACROSS AS FEELING BASED GUIDELINES, LANGUAGE, LIKE APPROPRIATE, THOUGHTFUL, UH, HOW DO YOU DEFINE THAT? IT'S HARD FOR ANY DEVELOPER OR ANYBODY TO COME IN AND UNDERSTAND WHAT APPROPRIATE TRANSITIONS AND, UH, FEELING BASED RULES COME OUT TO.
UM, SO IF YOU'LL MOVE TO THE NEXT, UM, MORE APPROPRIATE, THOUGHTFUL ALLOWABLE, UH, YOU'LL SEE DOWN THERE, UH, AGAIN, APPROPRIATE.
WHO DECIDES WHAT APPROPRIATE IS? UH, IS IT TOYOTA? UH, IS IT THE CITY ATTORNEYS, THE LANDOWNERS? IT, IT LEAVES IT VERY OPEN.
CAN YOU MOVE TO THE NEXT PLEASE? UM, AGAIN, THE SAME THING, BUT IN THE MIDDLE.
UH, WHAT I'M REALLY REQUESTING IS THAT Y'ALL, THERE'S TWO PLACES HERE ON PAGE 24, I BELIEVE, UH, TO REMOVE THE ADDITIONAL WORDING OF OVERLAY ZONING DISTRICT, THERE'S SOME REFERENCE TO, UH, CONSIDERING THAT THEY DON'T NEED AN OVERLAY, THE ZONING EXISTS ON ALL THAT PROPERTY.
THE PROTECTION IS ALREADY THERE.
UM, AND, UH, IF YOU WOULD MOVE TO THE NEXT, UH, PAGE 60, STRATEGY 2.4, AGAIN, THAT'S WHERE THE OVERLAY LANGUAGE, UH, SITS.
AND, UH, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING THAT Y'ALL CONSIDER AMENDING TO REMOVE THAT OUT OF IT.
AND, UM, THEN JUST FROM A OVERALL COMMENT STANDPOINT, UM, AGAIN, THE ZONING'S THERE, WHY, UH, GO THROUGH ALL OF THIS.
UH, WE ARE, Y'ALL ARE NOT ZONING.
I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE PLANNING, AND THIS HAS A LAND USE ISSUE, ALL THE A AND M AREA IS ALREADY PROTECTED BY WHAT EXISTS.
UM, UM, THE OTHER REQUEST I WOULD MAKE IS THAT Y'ALL ASK STAFF TO BE VERY CLEAR.
UH, AN ATTEMPT WAS MADE LAST TIME TO, UH, GET THE STAFF TO DEFINE WHETHER OR NOT THEY PLAN TO USE THE LANGUAGE IN THIS PLAN OUTSIDE THE BORDERS.
UH, ARE YOU GONNA STAY WITH INSIDE THE BORDERS
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OF THE TEXAS A AND M LAND PLAN, OR DO THEY PLAN TO USE IT TO INFLUENCE AND MAKE DECISIONS OUTSIDE OF THAT WHERE THEY SHOULDN'T BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T INVOLVE ANYBODY OUTSIDE OF THE TEXAS A AND M AREA IN CONVERSATIONS? UM, JUST AS A SIDE NOTE TO THAT, UM, I MADE A REQUEST TO GET, UH, EMAILS AND COMMUNICATIONS ABOUT HOW THIS ALL CAME TOGETHER FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS.AND THE CITY HIRED AN OUTSIDE LAW FIRM, THE SAME ONE THEY'RE USING TO DEFEND THEMSELVES, TO TAKE ME TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, UH, REFUSING TO GIVE ME OPEN RECORDS REQUESTS FOR EMAILS AND COMMUNICATIONS AND DOCUMENTS THAT WOULD PROVIDE EVIDENCE.
SO I'M CONCERNED THEY HAVE CONTINUED STUFF TO HIDE, UH, IN ALL OF THIS PROCESS.
OTHERWISE, THERE'S NO REASON TO LIMIT MY REQUEST, UH, FROM OPEN RECORDS.
UM, SO AGAIN, IF YOU JUST CONSIDER REMOVING AMENDING TO REMOVE OVERLAY LANGUAGE OUT OF IT, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD SUGGEST Y'ALL DELAY IT AND LET THE SAME PEOPLE BE COMMUNICATED TO AT THE JULY 2ND MEETING, WHICH IS WHERE THEY'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE ICON ZONING OVERLAY NEXT WEEK DOWN AT TEXAS A M.
CAMPUS CITY'S MAILED OUT STUFF.
UM, I'VE TALKED TO SOME LANDOWNERS WHO SAID THEY'VE NOT RECEIVED ANYTHING, BUT THERE IS A PLAN FOR THIS TO, UM, TAKE PLACE.
AND IT, THIS IS RELATED, BUT DIFFERENT, BUT IT, IT'S IMPACTING THE SAME PEOPLE POTENTIALLY.
AND IT SURE WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE A REAL, UH, STRONG PUBLIC, UH, MEETING TOGETHER RATHER THAN KIND OF DISJOINTED LIKE THEY'RE DOING.
SO, I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
NEXT, NEXT UP TO SPEAK IS DANIEL NREA.
IF YOU COULD CYCLE THROUGH THESE MAYBE TWO SECONDS EACH IN THAT ORDER.
THIS ONE, UH, AS THE, WHAT'S THE, YEAH.
SO YOUR TIME'S IN THE CORNER OVER THERE.
UM, I'M AT, UH, 1680 ERMAN ROAD.
I SPOKE ON THE TOYOTA OVERLAY LAST TIME.
UH, SO, UM, BUT IT'S STILL MENTIONED IN THE DOCUMENTS.
SO THIS IS IN ADDITION TO, TO, TO THAT.
UH, I, I WANT TO TOUCH UP ON SOME OF THE ABUSES AND SPECIAL TREATMENT WE GET, UH, DOWN IN THE FORGOTTEN SOUTH WHEN IT COMES TO CITY SERVICES AND AMENITIES, OR LACK THEREOF, ALTHOUGH WE PAY THE SAME TAXES LIKE THE REST AND HAVE BEEN INCORPORATED IN THE CITY FOR DECADES NOW, WE'RE PRACTICALLY A, UM, THIRD WORLD DUMPING SITE, ILLEGAL DUMPING SITE.
AND, AND, UH, THIS WOULD GROSS YOU OUT SOME OF THESE PICTURES.
IT'S A THREE MILE, UH, LONG STREET.
AND, UH, FOR YEARS NOW, WE'VE BEEN EMBARRASSED TO CALL ANY FRIENDS OVER.
WE HAVEN'T, SINCE WE MOVED INTO THE PROPERTY.
UM, WE'RE AVERAGING ABOUT 200, UH, PHONE CALLS TO THREE ONE ONE, UM, ON A YEARLY BASIS.
UM, THESE ARE PICTURES FROM OUR PAST OF PROPERTY PROTEST PACKAGES.
I DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO PREPARE ANYTHING, BUT I THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE A GOOD, UH, GOOD STUFF TO SHOW HERE.
UH, ONE DAY BEFORE CHRISTMAS, I COUNTED, UH, OVER 60, UH, ILLEGAL DUMP SITES ON OUR STREET.
I ACTUALLY TOOK A TWO MINUTE, UH, VIDEO OF THAT.
UM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 40 YARD DUMPSTER LOADS DUMPED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, UM, ON RIGHT, RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET.
UH, WE HAVE THE FBI AND THE MORGUE THERE ON A REGULAR BASIS, ASKING FOR CAMERA EVIDENCE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
UH, STRAY DOGS AND CATS, AND WE'RE TALKING ENTIRE COWS, DONKEYS, HORSES DUMPED OVER THERE, ESPECIALLY ON THE PLEASANTON SIDE.
THERE'S A REALLY, REALLY NASTY, UM, DEATH SMELL WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU GET TO THAT, UH, SIDE, YOU, YOU ARE WONDERING WHY WE'RE NOT CALLING ANYBODY OVER.
UH, WE'RE TALKING TO, UH, TOXIC CHEMICALS, UH, AND HAZARDOUS WASTE, AND ESPECIALLY DUMPED, UH, NEAR THE CREEK.
THERE'S A CREEK RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD, UH, MID, MID-SPAN FLOODING, UH, NO DRAINAGE.
WHEN IT'S WET, IT'S REALLY MUDDY.
UH, WHEN IT'S DRY, IT'S VERY DUSTY.
THERE'S VEGETATION OVER OVERGROWTH.
ALL OUR VEHICLES ARE SCRATCHED ON THE RIGHT SIDE FROM THE LEAVES AND BRANCHES PROTRUDING INTO THE STREET.
AND NOBODY, NOBODY'S, UH, MAINTAINING ANYTHING ON THAT STREET.
UM, THERE'S TWO SANDPITS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE, UH, OF OUR PROPERTY THERE.
THEY'RE FINALLY, FINALLY, AFTER ABOUT,
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UH, 10, 11 YEARS, THEY'VE RE REPAVED THAT STREET.UH, NO LIGHTING, NO CITY AMENITIES WHATSOEVER OF ANY KIND.
UM, LIKE I SAID, THE, THE, THESE POTHOLES HAVE BEEN, UH, MESSING UP OUR SUSPENSIONS.
UM, THIS YEAR ALONE, WE HAVE PLACED OVER FOUR, UH, FOUR DOZEN PHONE CALLS TO HAVE OUR TRASH.
AND, UH, RECYCLING PICKED UP AS HARD AS THAT IS TO BELIEVE.
UM, AND I'M CALLING FRIENDS ON THE NORTH SIDE.
NOBODY EVEN AFTER, UM, THAT'S THE BEST TIME.
FERIN OV 1901 NORTH MILITARY WORLD.
UH, I WOULD LIKE CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS TO TABLE THE DECISION ON THIS ISSUE.
NOW, TOYOTA ALREADY MADE THE DECISION TO MAKE THE INVESTMENT, EVEN THOUGH A LOT OF THE CITY PEOPLE HAVE THREATENED NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.
IF THEY VOTED YES, THEY VOTED NO, TOYOTA MADE THE DECISION.
THERE'S A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE OVERLAY ON JULY 2ND, AND THEY SAY THEY SENT 13,000 NOTICES.
AND IT'S LESS THAN ONE WEEK TO GO.
THERE'S ALSO ZONING COMMISSION ON THE OVERLAY ON JULY 16TH.
AND THIS IS RELATED BECAUSE IT HAS TO DO WITH THE, WITH THE ZONING AND, AND, AND LAND PLAN HERE, BECAUSE THE OVERLAY IS STATED IN PAGE 24 AND 60.
AND I WOULD LIKE THIS TO TAKE IT AWAY.
THEY'RE STILL PLAYING WITH, PLAYING WITH US.
LET'S TALK ABOUT TRANSPARENCY.
THE LAST MEETING, THE, UH, CITY ATTORNEY, THE ASSISTANT, SHE SAID FOR TRANSPARENCY, SHE MIGHT TAKE IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO? I DON'T THINK SO.
UH, WE, THE CITIZENS AND TAXPAYERS, I WOULD LIKE TO APOLOGIZE.
WE FAVOR THE WAY WHAT YOU'RE DOING, AND WE CHERISH WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
I THINK CITY COUNCIL NEEDS THE RESPECT, AND YOU NEED THE RESPE, THE, THE RESPECT FROM EVERYBODY.
OTHERWISE, WE'RE WASTING OUR TIME TALKING ABOUT TRANSPARENCY.
HERE'S PAGE 24 AND 26 EMBEDDED, EMBEDDED, AGAIN, THE WORD OVERLAY.
THE PLAN MIGHT, MIGHT BE VERY GOOD, BUT JUST GO WITH A PLAN.
DON'T TALK ABOUT THE REST OF THE PROPERTIES.
THIS IS, AGAIN, AGAINST 4,000 LANDOWNERS THAT ARE GONNA BE AFFECTED.
THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT DECISION.
THERE'S NO CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.
AND LET'S REALLY PROTECT 4,000.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE, I MEAN, TEXAS A AND M THRIVING.
WE LOVE TOYOTA, BUT WE ALSO NEED THAT.
KATHLEEN NICHOLAS, ARE YOU, UH, DONATING YOUR TIME? TO, TO ANDREW? TO ANDREW.
YOU'LL HAVE SIX MIN NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, YOU'LL HAVE SIX MINUTES.
UH, ADDRESS IS 13 9 8 7 FM 1937.
SO FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO THANK, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR GIVING THE, GIVING THE LANDOWNERS, UM, DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY THIS PLAN.
UH, THE ADDITIONAL TIME NEEDED TO REVIEW THE RISE REVISED PLAN THAT WAS PRESENTED AT THE LAST MEETING.
UM, OVER THE PAST WEEK, I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO READ THROUGH THE REVISED PLAN.
AND WHILE IT'S BEEN IMPROVED FROM THE PREVIOUS VERSION, THERE'S STILL LANGUAGE WRITTEN INTO THE PLAN THAT IS CONCERNING TO THOSE WHO FALL OUTSIDE OF THE BOUNDARIES OF THE PLAN.
AND SO THE BOUNDARIES OF THE PLAN ARE LOOP FOUR 10 TO THE NORTH PLEASANTON ROAD AND NEIL ROAD TO THE EAST NEIL ROAD TO THE SOUTH, AND APPLEWHITE AND SOUTH, SOUTH, SOUTH MAR TO THE WEST.
AND SO IN THE MAP ON THE SCREEN, IT'S, IT'S ALL THE COLORED, UM, AREA WITHIN THOSE BOUNDARIES.
UM, WITHIN THE REVISED PLAN AS IT'S PRESENTED TODAY FOR APPROVAL, THE CITY HAS INCLUDED LANGUAGE THAT REFERENCES A FUTURE OVERLY DISTRICT, UM, THAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED TO BE A TWO MILE RADIUS, UH, SURROUNDING THE TOYOTA PLANT, WHICH IS THE LINE DRAWN, UM, ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE MAP.
WHILE THAT LANGUAGE HAS BEEN SCRATCHED OUT AND REVISED,
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UM, IN THE PLAN THAT'S PRESENTED TODAY, UM, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF, OF PARTICULAR PARAGRAPHS STILL INCLUDED IN THE PLAN THAT, UM, REFERENCES TO OVERLAY.AND SO, UM, FOR THE LAND USE RECOMMENDATION NUMBER TWO ON PAGE 24, IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS, WITHIN THE CITY'S MUNICIPAL BOUNDARIES, POTENTIAL TOOLS FOR MAINTAINING APPROPRIATE LAND USE TRANSITION IN A CONSISTENT AND PREDICTABLE WAY, INCLUDE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE, MAP, AND DEVELOPMENT OF AN OVERLAY DISTRICT IN THE CITY'S EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION, THE PRIMARY TOOL IS CONTINUED IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CITY'S ANNEXATION AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT POLICY FROM 2023 THROUGH THE REVIEW OF PROPOSED PROJECTS SUCH AS REQUESTED FOR SPECIAL DISTRICTS.
YOU KNOW, IN READING THIS LANGUAGE, IT MAY SEEM RATHER HARMLESS, BUT THE INTENT IS TO IMPACT LANDOWNERS WHO FALL OUTSIDE OF THE BOUNDARIES OF THE PLAN.
UM, AS I MENTIONED, UM, I DO NOT SEE A PURPOSE TO INCLUDE AN OVERLAY DISTRICT OR REFERENCE TO THE CITY'S ETJ, UH, IF IT DOES NOT FALL WITHIN THE TRADITIONAL BOUNDARIES OF THE PLAN.
UM, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE LACK OF COMMUNITY INPUT FROM THOSE LANDOWNERS SUCH AS OURSELF, UM, WHO WOULD BE IMPACTED BY THE OVERLAY DISTRICT AND LIVE WITHIN THE ETJ.
YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE THE LANGUAGE IN THE PLAN SHOULD ONLY IMPACT THE LAND THAT FALLS WITHIN THE PLAN PLAN BOUNDARIES AS THEY WERE DEFINED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PLAN DOCUMENT.
UM, IN ADDITION, UM, I OPPOSE THE FOLLOWING LANGUAGE AS IT'S INCLUDED IN SECTION EIGHT IMPLEMENTATION, UH, PER THE LAND USE.
RECOMMENDATION NUMBER TWO ON PAGE 60, UH, THERE'S TWO STRATEGIES THAT ARE LISTED THERE.
STRATEGY 2.4, UM, WHICH IS REGULATORY AND POLICY.
UM, AND THAT CONSIDERS DEVELOPMENT OVER AN OVERLAY DISTRICT TO ADDRESS COMPATIBILITY ISSUES.
A PURPOSEFUL AND ORDERLY TRANSITION OF USES SURROUNDING HEAVY INDUSTRIAL AREAS PROTECTS THE ECONOMIC VITALITY OF ESTABLISHED INDUSTRIAL AREAS AND CREATES SAFEGUARDS FOR WELLBEING OF LESS INTENSE COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
IN ADDITION, STRATEGY 2.5 GOES ON TO SAY, CONTINUED IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CITY'S ANNEXATION AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT POLICY THROUGH THE REVIEW OF PROPOSED PROJECTS SUCH AS REQUESTS FOR SPECIAL DISTRICTS.
ONCE AGAIN, I'M NOT SURE WHY THERE IS A NEED TO INCLUDE LANGUAGE THAT REFERENCES AN OVERLAY DISTRICT THAT EXTENDS BEYOND THE BOUNDARIES OF THIS PLAN, NOR THE CREATION OF SPECIAL DISTRICTS THAT WOULD ENCOMPASS LAND THAT HAS NOT BEEN ANNEXED BY THE CITY YET.
UM, YOU KNOW, I, I'VE TRIED TO REACH OUT TO, UM, FOLKS AT THE CITY AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO ASK THEM WHAT IS THE PURPOSE AND, AND WHY ARE WE CREATING THESE DISTRICTS OUTSIDE OF THIS PLAN DOCUMENT AND THE BOUNDARIES OF THE PLAN AS IT'S DEFINED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE, OF THE PLAN DOCUMENT.
AND NO ONE REALLY WANTS TO SEEM TO GIVE A RATIONAL OR REASONABLE EXPLANATION AS TO WHY WE HAVE THIS PERIPHERAL LANGUAGE THAT EXTENDS BEYOND THE PLANNED BOUNDARIES.
AND SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT I THINK EVERYONE HERE TODAY IS REALLY OPPOSING, IS JUST, JUST THE VAGARIES OF LANGUAGE THAT EXTENDS BEYOND THE PUMP BA PLAN BOUNDARY.
YOU KNOW, IF THEY WANTED TO EXPAND THE PLAN BOUNDARY, THEN WHY DIDN'T YOU DEFINE THAT IN THE DOCUMENT AND SAY THAT IT ENCOMPASSES A LARGER AREA? UM, AND, AND INVITE THOSE LANDOWNERS THAT FALL WITHIN THE BOUNDARY.
YOU KNOW, WE OWN A SIGNIFICANT, UM, PIECE OF PROPERTY WITHIN THE TWO MILE BUFFER OF TOYOTA, AND WE HAVEN'T BEEN INVITED TO ANY, ANY SORT OF TEXAS A AND M REGIONAL PLAN MEETING, COMMUNITY WIDE MEETING, HAVE NO NOTIFICATION OF THIS.
AND SO THAT'S REALLY OUR KIND OF RUB WITH THIS, WITH THIS PROCESS, UM, IS THE VAGARIES AND THE EXTENSION OF THE PLAN BOUNDARIES, UM, THROUGH THE USE OF THE UDC CODE, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IS NOT VERY, UM, WELL DEFINED WITHIN THE PLAN, BUT IT, THE LANGUAGE IS IN THE PLAN THAT IT, THAT EXPANDS THE BOUNDARIES.
AND SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT I THINK EVERYONE HERE TODAY OPPOSES.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, I I JUST RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL ASK THE CITY, UM, STAFF THAT ARE HERE TODAY, WHY, WHAT IS THE NET, WHAT IS THE NEED FOR INCLUDING THESE OVERLAY DISTRICT LANGUAGE IN THIS PLAN? IF YOU DEFINE THE PLAN BOUNDARIES AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PLAN, BUT YET AS YOU GET FURTHER INTO THE PLAN, YOU SEE THAT IT ACTUALLY OPENS UP THE BOUNDARIES, UM, IN A VERY ARBITRARY WAY.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE OVERALL PLAN.
I DO HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE SECTIONS THAT I MENTIONED, AND AS A RESULT, I REQUEST THAT, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL ASK SOME FURTHER, UM, QUESTIONS TO THE CITY REGARDING, UM, SOME OF THIS LANGUAGE AND, AND, AND HOPEFULLY REQUEST THAT IT BE REMOVED, UM,
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SO THAT WE CAN JUST ALL MOVE ON FROM THIS PROCESS.THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
THAT IS EVERYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? SO WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND START COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS.
WE'LL START ON THE LEFT WITH COMMISSIONER LOPEZ, JUST AS A CATCH UP FROM LAST MEETING, UM, WHEN DID YOU GUYS START WORKING ON THIS PARTICULAR PLAN? SURE.
CAN YOU GIMME JUST, YOU KNOW, YEARS AND MONTHS KIND OF TIMELINES? I DON'T NEED ALL THE DAILY DAY TO DAY.
I, I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SAY THE EXACT MONTH, BUT I COULD TELL YOU THAT THE PROCESS ITSELF HAS BEEN GOING ON.
SO THIS PROCESS HAS REALLY STARTED, STARTED IN 2018.
THE, ONCE WE WERE ABLE TO GET MUCH OF THE EXISTING CONDITION CONDITIONS, ATLAS, SOME OF THOSE BACK, THE BACKGROUND, THE RESEARCH THAT WE NEEDED TO PROVIDE TO THE PLANNING TEAM, THE, UM, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS REALLY KICKED UP AT THE START OF 2019.
AND THE, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC MEETINGS THAT ARE POSTED ON SURE.
THE, THE CITY'S WEBSITE AND ALL THE CITY'S OUTREACH.
AND THESE ARE PUBLIC MEETINGS, NOT CLOSED MEETINGS, CORRECT? CORRECT.
EVERY, EVERY, EVERY PLAN, EVEN THE PLANNING TEAM MEETINGS ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
AND APPROXIMATELY HOW MANY OF THESE MEETINGS DO YOU THINK HAVE OCCURRED OVER THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS? UM, I COULD TELL YOU FOUR COMMUNITY MEETINGS HAVE OCCURRED, UM, AND 17 PLANNING TEAM MEETINGS HAVE OCCURRED THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS.
AND THEN WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS NEW, THE, THE A AND M DISTRICT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, I ASSUME IT'S BOARDED ON FOUR SIDES BY OTHER PLANS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT TOGETHER ON DIFFERENT TIMETABLES, CORRECT? CORRECT.
UH, BORDERED BY THREE, UH, TWO PLAN AREAS.
ONE ON THE EAST, ONE ON THE WEST, THERE'S ANOTHER PLAN ON THE, UH, TO THE NORTH OF IT.
AND THEN WE DO HAVE THE CITY'S ETJ AND THE COUNTY TO THE SOUTH.
AND I THINK THAT MUCH OF WHAT YOU HEARD ABOUT, HOW IS IT THAT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO MAY BE MAKING, MAY BE MAKING COMMENTARY RELATED TO PROPERTIES THAT MIGHT BE IN THE COUNTY? WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY IS AREAS THAT ARE IN THE ETJ, BUT THAT WE HAVE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS WITH.
AND THOSE PROPERTIES AT SOME POINT ARE, WILL BE PROPOSED FOR ANNEXATION, AND AT THAT TIME THEY WILL BE INCORPORATED INTO THIS PLAN AREA.
PLANNING, SINCE THAT'S THE NAME OF THE DEPARTMENT.
AND SO EACH OF THOSE OTHER BORDERING PLAN AREAS HAVE HAD PUBLIC MEETINGS AS WELL, CORRECT? WELL, FOR THE, FOR THE MEETINGS THAT ARE ON THE EAST AND WEST, THOSE ACTUALLY WILL KICK OFF IN PHASE FIVE.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, UH, COMMISSIONER, THE, THE PLANS THAT ARE ON THE EAST, WEST, AND NORTH ARE PHASE FOUR AND FIVE PLANS.
SO WE'RE STARTING PHASE FOUR CURRENTLY.
AND PHASE FIVE WILL BEGIN THE PROCESS WITHIN ABOUT TWO YEARS.
SO THOSE PLANS ARE STILL GONNA BE IN THE WORKS, AND WE'RE STILL GONNA BE DOING LONG RANGE PLANNING FOR THE ENTIRE SOUTH SIDE AREA FOR THE NEXT, AT LEAST THREE OR FOUR YEARS.
AND THOSE MEETINGS WILL BE PUBLIC.
WE DON'T HAVE SECRET MEETINGS.
THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAD.
I, I HAVE, UH, TWO, TWO ITEMS. SO WE HEARD A LOT OF DISCUSSION FROM THE COMMUNITY RE JUST NOW ON PAGE 24 AND PAGE 60.
WHEN I READ PAGE 24, UM, THE, THE HEADING THAT'S, THAT'S IN, UH, BLACK THERE SAYS, UM, MAINTAIN APPROPRIATE TRANSITIONS, INDEN AND DENSITY AND USES BETWEEN THE SOUTH, NORTHERN AND SOUTHERN PORTIONS OF THE PLAN AREA.
AND THEN IT GOES ON, UH, TO THE BLUE UNDERLINE AND IT'S JUST STATEMENTS OF FACT.
THERE'S NOTHING SPECIFIC IN THERE ABOUT BREAKING PAST THE PLAN AREA.
IT'S JUST A STATEMENT OF FACT OF WHAT THE TOOLS THE CITY HAS.
THAT THAT IS SIMPLY WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WAS WHAT TOOLS ARE AVAILABLE.
AND THEN ON PAGE, UH, 60, AGAIN, IT, IT STILL TALKS ABOUT, UM, THE CON THE CONSIDERATION OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF AN OVERLAY DISTRICT TO ADDRESS COMPATIBILITY ISSUES BETWEEN THE NORTHERN AND SOUTHERN PORTIONS OF THE PLAN AREA.
UH, I'M, I'M, WAS THERE ANYTHING SPECIFIC BROUGHT UP IN, IN ANY OF THE LANGUAGE, WHETHER IT'S THESE RECENT CHANGES OR PREVIOUS CHANGES THAT COULD HAVE THE, UM, POSSIBILITY OF BREACHING THE PLAN BOUNDARIES? I'M NOT SEEING ANY, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE MENTIONED OTHER THAN THIS? NO, NO.
WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT HAS BEEN MODIFIED.
COMMISSIONER ROULETTE, NO QUESTIONS.
UM, JUST FOR KIND OF, FOR, EXCUSE ME FOR CLARITY IS WHAT IS THE IMPORTANCE AND, UH, OF INCLUDING THESE, THESE IMPLEMENTATION TOOLS SUCH AS THE OVERLAY AND WHAT IS THE IMPACT ON THE DECISIONS OF THOSE OVERLAY WHEN THAT COMES TO FRUITION? IF IT DOES OKAY.
YES, COMMISSIONER? UM, ON THE FIRST QUESTION, UH, IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT WE ESTABLISH WHAT TOOLS THE CITY DOES HAVE AVAILABLE.
WE WERE TRYING TO PROVIDE, UH, SOME EXAMPLES BECAUSE SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE EXPERIENCED IN THE PAST AND SOMETHING THAT THE, THE PLANNING TEAM WAS VERY COGNIZANT OF, AND WE TALKED ABOUT ALL OF THIS PARTICULARLY VERY EARLY ON, UH, LATE LAST YEAR AND EARLY THIS YEAR, WAS
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WE DON'T WANT FOLKS TO NOT UNDERSTAND THROUGH THIS PLANNING PROCESS THAT THERE ARE TOOLS THAT CAN BE USED.AN OVERLAY DISTRICT IS ONE OF THEM, AND IT WAS DISCUSSED DURING PLANNING TEAM MEETINGS AND DURING THE LAST COMMUNITY MEETING.
SO PUT IT OUT THERE, BE TRANSPARENT, MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS UNDERSTAND THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS UNDER CONSIDERATION FOR PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS CONTINUES TO BE AN ECONOMICALLY VIABLE, UH, UH, INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.
UM, COULD YOU REPEAT THE SECOND PART OF YOUR QUESTION? CAN MR. IS WHAT'S THE IMPACT OR HOW WILL IT INFLUENCE HOW, LIKE IF, IF THIS PLAN IS APPROVED, HOW WILL IT IMPACT OR INFLUENCE THE, THE OVERLAY OR OTHER IMPLEMENTATION TOOLS? BIG USE OF, UM, IT, IT, IT DOESN'T HAVE A DIRECT IMPACT ON THE TYPES OF TOOLS THAT THE CITY CAN IMPLEMENT IN THIS AREA.
AGAIN, IT'S INTENDED TO BE AN EXAMPLE OF A TYPE OF TOOL THAT CAN BE USED, UH, IN, IN WITHIN THIS PLAN AREA.
SO JUST FOR CLARITY, IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY SHOW AN INFLUENCE OF SEE, HEY, WE HAVE IT IN HERE, SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO USE IT OR IT NOW IN INFLUENCES THE DECISION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER? NO, NO, I DON'T SEE IT THAT WAY.
UH, YEAH, I THINK TRANSPARENCY IS CRITICAL AND I APPRECIATE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, I'M SORRY, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT FOR, YOU KNOW, TAKING A LOOK AT THIS INVOLVING THE COMMUNITY, UM, TO COME UP WITH SOME SOLUTIONS THAT ARE, UH, THAT SEEM TO ALIGN BETTER WITH WHAT THE COMMUNITY'S LOOKING FOR.
UM, THE, THE PLAN IS, IS A, A GUIDELINE.
SO, AND IN FACT, THE REASON I BRING IT UP, WE CONSIDERED A CASE EARLIER TODAY OF A FAIRLY NEW REGIONAL CENTER PLAN WHERE WE DISAGREED WITH THE CITY'S RECOMMENDATION, UM, PUTTING THE OVERLAY DISTRICT, WHICH AGAIN IS, IS GONNA BE A SEPARATE ZONING ISSUE, CORRECT? YES, SURE.
UM, DOESN'T, UM, OBLIGATE OR CREATE ANY TYPE OF, UH, REGULATORY A ACTION AGAINST THE CURRENT PROPERTY? CORRECT.
THEY'LL STILL HAVE TO BE SEPARATE ZONING COMMISSION, UH, MEETINGS.
ANY LAND USE CHANGE WOULD'VE TO GO THROUGH THE SAME CHANNELS THAT THEY GO THROUGH TODAY.
THERE WOULD BE A ZONING COMMISSION PROCESS AND THEN ULTIMATELY THE CITY COUNCIL WILL MAKE THE DECISION WHETHER OR NOT TO APPLY THE ICOD.
AND JUST A, JUST ANOTHER COMMENT 'CAUSE I KNOW A GENTLEMAN SPOKE ABOUT SOME OF THE CONDITIONS THERE, SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE TO WORK WITH THE CITY.
I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S TERRIBLE TO SEE THAT KIND OF CONDITION ON, ON THAT, ON THE STREETS DOWN THERE.
SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN WORK WITH THE CITY DEPARTMENTS TO IMPROVE THE CONDITIONS THERE.
I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
WELL, I'M GONNA BE STICKING THE MUD RUDY
'CAUSE I FELT LIKE THE CITY ATTORNEY MADE IT VERY, VERY CLEAR TO US THAT THAT WAS NOT THE BUSINESS OF THIS COMMISSION.
SO WHY IS IT EVEN IN THE PLAN AT ALL? YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TERM OF OVERLAY DISTRICT, THE TERM OF OVERLAY DISTRICT.
AGAIN, I THINK THAT GOING BACK AS FAR AS LATE LAST YEAR INTO EARLY THIS YEAR, NUMBER ONE, THE OVERLAY DISTRICT AS AN OPTION AND AS AN EXAMPLE OF THE TYPES OF TOOLS THAT CAN BE ESTABLISHED TO PROVIDE TRANSITIONAL LAND USE IN THIS AREA WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS STATED IN THE COMMUNITY MEETING, THE FINAL COMMUNITY MEETING.
AND IT WAS SOMETHING THAT THE, UH, PLANNING TEAM WANTED.
THEY WANTED THE EXAMPLES THEY WANT, THEY DID, THEY WANTED TO BE FULLY TRANSPARENT THAT THIS IS AN OPTION THAT COULD BE USED, UH, WITHIN THIS PARTICULAR AREA.
SO RE RE YOU KNOW, REMOVING THE TERM OVERLAY DISTRICT WOULD ALMOST APPEAR AS THOUGH WE ARE TRYING TO STATE THAT IT'S NOT THE CASE.
WE'RE NOT, IT'S NOT AN OPTION THAT IT WOULD ALMOST BE, WE WOULD FEEL NOT TRANSPARENT TO PROVIDE THAT.
IT'S AN EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING THAT COULD BE USED IN THIS AREA.
WELL, IS IT, IS IT SOMETHING THAT COULD BE USED IN ANY PLANNING AREA? ABSOLUTELY, BECAUSE IT WAS NEVER BROUGHT UP IN MY ZONING AREA.
LIKE IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE MIDTOWN PLAN, THERE PROBABLY WEREN'T DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE NEED FOR AN OVERLAY DISTRICT IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA, EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE ESTABLISHED IN THAT AREA.
UM, IN THIS AREA, THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF COMMUNITY CONVERSATION ABOUT THE NEED TO ESTABLISH TRANSITIONAL LAND USES OUT HERE.
THERE WERE SEVERAL, THERE ARE SEVERAL OVERLAYS IN THE MIDTOWN AREA AND IT'S BEEN A FEW YEARS, SO I WON'T SAY THERE WEREN'T DISCUSSIONS.
I JUST DON'T REMEMBER THAT BEING HIGHLIGHTED, IF YOU WILL.
UM, WHY DO YOU THINK THERE'S SO MUCH CONCERN IN THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THE USE OF THAT TERM THEN? I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS OTHER THAN TO SAY THAT I WOULD IMAGINE THAT ANYTIME THAT YOU, UH, ADOPT OR PROPOSE A FUTURE LAND USE PLAN, AND IT APPEARS AS THOUGH THERE MAY BE ADDITIONAL LIMITATIONS THAT AT SOME POINT MIGHT BE PLACED ON THE USE OF YOUR PROPERTY, YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD OF COURSE WOULD HAVE SOME, UH, SOME CONCERNS.
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WE AS STAFF HAVE, HAVE MET WITH MANY PEOPLE.WE CONTINUE TO MEET WITH FOLKS AND WE, OUR INFORMATION IS OUT THERE.
WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO MEET WITH FOLKS ON A REGULAR BASIS TO DISCUSS THESE ISSUES AND TRY TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE CONCERNS.
I THINK RIGHT NOW THOUGH, THERE MAY BE A FEW FOLKS THAT DO LIVE WITHIN THE ICOD THAT MAY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, QUITE A FEW PEOPLE, I WOULD SAY A VAST MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WITHIN THAT 13,000 DON'T EVEN LIVE WITHIN THE PLAN AREA.
SO, AND, AND THERE WAS ORIGINALLY IT WAS LIKE THREE MILE, AND NOW I'M HEARING TWO MILE AND, UH, THE INFO BE, I KNOW IT'S NONE OF MY BUSINESS, BUT SURE.
I'LL JUST SAY JUST FOR A MATTER OF A FACT THAT THE INDUSTRIAL COMPATIBILITY OVERLAY DISTRICT HAS ALWAYS BEEN PROPOSED TO BE A, A TWO MILE AREA.
SO THE THREE MILES WASN'T PART OF A CONSIDERATION.
UH, IT'S, IT'S JUST TROUBLING TO ME THAT THERE'S SO, SO MUCH DISSENSION.
I HAVE NOT HEARD THAT ON ANY, UH, ANY PLANS.
UM, FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, STATE MY APPRECIATION FOR THE, THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE OR THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED TO BE MADE.
UM, I DO SHARE SOME OF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONER'S CONCERNS ABOUT THE, THE PLAN AREA.
UM, AND, UM, LAST TIME I ASKED WHY THE PLAN AREA WAS ACTUALLY DEFINED AS WHERE IT IS AND THAT, AND I STILL, TO ME, THAT THAT IS STILL TR I STILL HAVE, UM, TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING WHY THE AREA, LIKE WHY, UH, SOUTH ZAMORA WAS CHOSEN AS THE WESTERN BOUNDARY WHEN THE PLAN MENTIONS THE NEED FOR TRANSITIONS TO OTHER, WITH, YOU KNOW, AWAY FROM THE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL, WHY THE VERY EDGE OF THE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL WAS CHOSEN AS THE PLAN AREA AND WHY THE, THE PLAN WAS NOT EXPANDED TO INCLUDE THOSE TRANSITIONAL AREAS.
UM, AND I KNOW YOU HAD SPOKEN ABOUT CENSUS TRACKS, BUT THIS, UH, ZAMORA BASICALLY BISECTS, YOU KNOW, CENSUS TRACK 1520.
SO IF WE WOULD'VE TAKEN THE ENTIRETY OF CENSUS TRACK 1520, IT WOULD'VE, IT WOULD GO TO, UH, STATE HIGHWAY 16, WHICH TO ME WOULD MAKE SENSE BECAUSE THEN YOU COULD INCORPORATE THOSE TRANSITIONS, UM, WITHIN THE PLAN ITSELF.
UM, BUT I GUESS AS FAR AS QUESTIONS, UM, I WAS WONDERING SINCE, SINCE YOU, SINCE YOU SPOKE, UM, UH, COMMISSIONER ORIAN SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T BREAK THE BOUNDARIES OF THE PLAN, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS LIKE, YOU KNOW, MENTIONS OF, OF, OF STRATEGIES.
COULD WE ADD LANGUAGE SO THAT SAY IN, UH, WHERE ARE WE, WHERE ARE WE THE PART THAT TALKS ABOUT THE OVERLAY, SAY STRATEGY 2.4, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE SAY CONSIDER DEVELOPMENT OF AN OVERLAY DISTRICT, COULD WE SAY CONSIDER DEVELOPMENT OF AN OVERLAY DISTRICT WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE PLAN? AND THE REASON I SUGGEST THAT IS BECAUSE THE MAP THAT WAS SHOWN EARLIER SHOWS THAT THE, THE OTHER PLANS ON THE, TO THE, UH, TO THE WEST OR TO THE EAST ARE NOT DUE TO EVEN START FOR ANOTHER COUPLE YEARS.
AND SO IT, IT, IT KIND OF GIVES ME PAUSE WHEN WE'RE DECIDING ON THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THOSE PLANS PERHAPS SHOULD HAVE BEEN LOOKED AT AT THE SAME TIME AND RUN CONCURRENTLY SO THAT AN OVERALL PLAN COULD BE ADOPTED SAYING, OKAY, WELL THIS PLAN WE'RE ADDRESSING TO HERE THIS PLAN, WE'RE ADDRESSING THIS AREA AND THIS PLAN, BUT WE ALL AGREE ON THESE PLANS THAT THIS, THIS, UH, TRANSITION SHOULD HAPPEN FROM, FROM THE, UM, HEAVY INDUSTRIAL.
THAT'S JUST, I GUESS A COMMENT.
BUT I WAS WONDERING IF IT WOULD BE, IF WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ADD THE LANGUAGE, SAY, WITHIN BORDERS OF THE PLAN TO WHENEVER AN OVERLAY DISTRICT IS MENTIONED IN, IN, IN THIS PLAN.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TO STAFF.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TO WHO THE A A MOTION, UH, CAN INCLUDE LANGUAGE TO, UH, AMEND, UH, A SECTION, UH, TO, SO THAT IS WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THE, OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THAT, AND, AND I THINK THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.
UM, I DON'T HAVE REALLY ANY QUESTIONS, JUST SOME COMMENTS.
I MEAN, I KNOW THE OVERLAY LANGUAGE IS CONTENTIOUS, BUT IN, IN MY EXPERIENCE, AND I'VE BEEN DOING
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PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A LONG TIME, ALL THESE PLANS, YOU KNOW, HAVE A SIMILAR FORMAT.THEY ALL TALK ABOUT STRATEGIES, GOALS, AND TOOLS.
AND, YOU KNOW, WHILE IT'S NOT POPULAR, UM, IT IS A TOOL AND I, YOU KNOW, I AGREE WITH WHAT RUDY SAID IS THAT IT SHOULD BE MENTIONED BECAUSE IT IS A TOOL, AND IF YOU DO IT WITHOUT MENTIONING IT, THEN IT'S A BIG SURPRISE.
UM, JUST BECAUSE IT'S A TOOL DOESN'T MEAN IT HAS TO GET USED.
THE ZONING OVERLAY PROCESS THAT IS CURRENTLY ONGOING IS SEPARATE, COMPLETELY SEPARATE FROM THE PROCESS OF THIS PLAN AND TWO SEPARATE ISSUES.
UM, OUR ISSUE TODAY IS THE PLAN, NOT THE USE OR LACK THEREOF OF THE TOOLS.
I KNOW, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, I JUST HAD ONE QUICK FOLLOW UP, BUT IT'S VERY SIMILAR, BUT KIND OF SAYING THE OPPOSITE WAY IS, IF, IF WE REMOVE THIS LANGUAGE IS OVERLAY OR ANY OF THE LANGUAGES THAT WERE KIND OF IN CONTENTION, WOULD THAT PRECLUDE THEM FROM BEING USED? NO.
SO EITHER WAY, IT'S EITHER WAY YOU STILL, IT'S THIS VERY SEPARATE ISSUE OF WHERE IT GETS TO.
UM, AND I WOULD NOT BE OPPOSED TO AT LEAST PROVIDING CLARITY OF WITHIN THE, THE PLAN BOUNDARIES AS WELL.
I THINK THE PART OF THE ISSUE WA IT WAS PARTICULARLY IN SOME OF THE MEETINGS THAT WE HAD, AGAIN AT THE END OF LAST YEAR AND EARLY THIS YEAR, WAS THIS IDEA THAT BY NOT ESTABLISHING WHAT ARE SOME OF THOSE TOOLS THAT ARE AVAILABLE THAT THE CITY COULD APPLY IN A PARTICULAR AREA, THAT IT WOULD SURPRISE FOLKS THAT FOLKS WOULD SAY, WELL, WAIT A MINUTE, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT COULD ACTUALLY HAPPEN OUT HERE.
AND THAT'S, THAT WAS THE POINT OF PUTTING IT ON THE LARGE BOARDS, SHARING IT WITH THE COMMUNITY WHEN WE HAD THE COMMUNITY MEETING.
IT'S LIKE AN OVERLAY DISTRICT IS A CONCEPT AND AN OPTION THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED OPENLY IN THE PUBLIC.
UM, SO I, I WOULD, I WOULD JUST CAUTION THAT IT MIGHT LEND TO THE COMMUNITY THAT, HEY, BY REMOVING THIS WORD, IT MEANS THAT THAT CAN'T HAPPEN.
WHEN IN FACT IT, IT, IT IS STILL, IT'S A TOOL THAT THE CITY CAN USE IN ALMOST ANY PART OF THE CITY.
I'M ASSUMING IN THE, UH, WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT, THE, THE PLANS FOR THE AREAS EAST AND WEST OF THE TEXAS A AND M PLAN ARE GOING TO HAVE LANGUAGE VERY SIMILAR.
IT'S SURE, BECAUSE IT'S ALL, IT'S LIKELY THAT THEY COULD YES, SIR.
ALRIGHT, SO JUST FOR, AND THIS HOPEFULLY MAYBE WOULD, UH, CAN YOU BRING THAT BACK UP THAT LANGUAGE I'M TWO FOUR OR WHATEVER? YEAH.
UH, POTENTIAL TOOLS FOR MAINTAINING LAND USE INCONSISTENT MAY, COULD YOU ADD THE WORD MAY INCLUDE JUST, JUST AS A, UM, YEAH, AS AN ADDITIONAL, JUST THAT IT'S NOT A GIVEN.
UM, BUT I, I'LL ABSOLUTELY, BUT THAT'S PERFECTLY, UH, UH, TRANSPARENT.
AND I DON'T, AND THE OTHER ONE WAS TO CONS.
I THINK THE OTHER LANGUAGE IS CONSIDER, UM, WHERE'S THE OTHER SECTION WHERE THAT OVERLAY DISTRICT APPEARS, CONSIDER DEVELOPMENT.
I THINK THAT'S IT RIGHT THERE IN THERE.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED.
SO THAT'S JUST MY ONLY INTERJECTION IS TO ADD THAT MAY IS JUST A, MAYBE A POINT OF CLARIFICATION FOR THE COMMUNITY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THE, THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD ADD, MR. CHAIR, IS UM, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD THE MAY IN THAT SECTION THAT IT WOULD BE PART OF A OF A MOTION.
UM, THE ONE THING THAT I WOULD ALSO STATE, I KNOW THAT WE DISCUSSED THIS AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING, WAS THAT IN ORDER TO ACCEPT THESE CHANGES, THE ZONING COMMISSION WOULD HAVE TO MAKE THAT MOTION FOR THIS PARTICULAR MEETING, THAT DOES NOT HAVE TO HAPPEN BECAUSE STAFF WAS ABLE TO REPOST THE LANGUAGE WITH THE INCLUSION OF THESE.
SO NO NEED TO MAKE A MOTION STATING THE INCLUSION OF THIS LANGUAGE.
WE HAVE ALREADY MADE THOSE, THOSE CHANGES.
SO, BUT ANY MODIFICATIONS TO THAT? MODIFICATIONS THEN? WOULD, YEAH.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR MOTIONS? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
UH, I MOVE TO APPROVE, UH, THE, THE PROPOSED LAND USE PLAN AS ADVERTISED TODAY WITH, UH, THE FOLLOWING CHANGES WITHIN, UH, LAND USE RECOMMENDATION NUMBER TWO, THE PARAGRAPH, UH, UH, THE SECOND, UH, PARAGRAPH SHOULD, SHOULD READ WITHIN THE CITY'S MUNICIPAL BOUNDARIES, POTENTIAL TOOLS FOR MAINTAINING APPROPRIATE LAND USE.
TRANSITIONS IN A CONSISTENT AND PREDICTABLE WAY MAY INCLUDE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP WITH THE REST OF THE, OF THE PARAGRAPH REMAINING THE SAME.
UH, AND THEN WITHIN STRATEGY 2.4, UH, TO BE REVISED TO, TO READ, UH, CONSIDER DEVELOPMENT OF AN OVERLAY DISTRICT.
TWO, ADDRESS COMPATIBILITY ISSUES WITHIN THE BORDERS OF THE PLAN BETWEEN THE NORTHERN AND SOUTHERN PORTIONS OF THE PLAN AREA.
WITH THE REST OF THE PARAGRAPH REMAINING THE SAME SECOND.
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COMMISSIONER ORIAN WITH EDITS AS DESCRIBED.AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FAULKNER STAFF, PLEASE DO A ROLL CALL.
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UH, LAST ITEM IS THE MINUTES.IS THERE ANY CHANGES OR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE MINUTES? JUST FOR THE RECORD, IT PASSED AS AMENDED.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
ANY STAFF ANNOUNCEMENTS? NO STAFF ANNOUNCEMENTS.
IT IS 3 0 6 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.