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I'D LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE HISTORIC DESIGN
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REVIEW COMMISSION FOR WEDNESDAY, JULY 17TH, 2024.MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? CASTILLO? HERE.
AND GIBBS HERE WE HAVE A QUORUM.
MAY HAVE SOMEONE FROM TRANSLATION SERVICES.
THE HISTORIC DESIGN AND REVIEW COMMISSION IS AN ADVISORY BOARD APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
I AM JAY MAURICE GIBBS CHAIRMAN AND THE VICE CHAIR IS JEFFREY FETZER.
IT IS THE FUNCTION OF THE COMMISSION TO ADVISE THE CITY MANAGER IN ALL RELEVANT CITY DEPARTMENTS CONCERNING ALL APPLICATIONS FOR PERMITS, FOR PROPERTIES AND IN STORAGE DISTRICTS FOR LANDMARKS ON CITY PROPERTY AND THE RIVER IMPROVEMENT OVERLAY AND FOR DEMOLITIONS.
AND CONSIDERING WHETHER TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL OF AN APPLICATION FOR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS, THE COMMISSION SHALL BE GUIDED BY THE CITY'S UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE AND DESIGN GUIDELINES AND STANDARDS THAT HAVE BEEN ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL.
AN APPEAL OF A DECISION BY AN ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICIAL CAN BE FILED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CITY'S UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.
IF ANYONE PRESENT WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION TO ANY ITEM ON TODAY'S AGENDA, PLEASE SIGN UP ON A PUBLIC COMMENT SHEET.
IT IS NOT NECESSARY TO SIGN UP.
IF YOU ARE THE OWNER OF OR REPRESENTATIVE FOR A PROJECT ON THE AGENDA, YOU WILL BE CALLED ON AS THE CASE IS CALLED.
CASE REPRESENTATIVES WILL BE GIVING NO MORE THAN 15 MINUTES TO PRESENT THEIR CASE WITHIN AN ADDITIONAL TWO MINUTES TO RESPOND TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
SPEAKERS FOUR OR OPPOSED TO A CASE WILL BE LIMITED TO TWO MINUTES.
EACH SPEAKERS MAY ALSO SIGN UP TO YIELD THEIR TIME, UM, YIELD THEIR TWO MINUTES TO ANOTHER SPEAKER WHO HAS SIGNED UP.
ANYONE WHO IS YIELDING THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AT THE TIME THE SPEAKER IS CALLED UPON.
SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED UPON IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY ARE SIGNED UP FOLLOWING PUBLIC TESTIMONY.
ANY COMMISSIONER MAY CALL UPON ANY SPEAKER TO RESPOND TO FURTHER QUESTIONS.
APPROVAL BY THE COMMISSION DOES NOT TAKE THE PLACE OF ANY TYPE OF PERMIT.
PERMITS MUST BE OBTAINED FOR ALL WORK.
CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR WORK APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION WILL BE EMAILED TO YOU WITHIN 10 DAYS.
NO WORK OF ANY TYPE IS TO BE STARTED WITHOUT OBTAINING THE APPROPRIATE CITY PERMITS.
AFTER A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS HAS BEEN ISSUED BY THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION AT THIS TIME, PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES.
OKAY, GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE.
UM, WE DO HAVE A FEW ANNOUNCEMENTS THAT I WILL GO OVER BRIEFLY.
UM, FIRST WE HAVE SEVERAL EVENTS COMING UP, OHP HOSTED EVENTS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION.
UM, THE FIRST IS TOMORROW, UM, ON THURSDAY THE 18TH, UM, THERE IS A PROPOSED CULTURAL HERITAGE DISTRICT FOR THE PRIDE DISTRICT ON NORTH NORTH MAIN STREET.
UM, FIRST LISTENING SESSION HOSTED BY OHP IS TOMORROW NIGHT AT ECO.
THAT'S IN 1802 NORTH MAINE AND ANYONE INVITED TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT PUBLIC MEETING.
UM, AND THEN ON SATURDAY, THE SATURDAY ON THE 20TH AT 9:00 AM UM, WE HAVE A HISTORIC DISTRICTS COALITION COALITION INFORMATIONAL MEETING, UM, THAT'LL COVER CLIMATE READY NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO THIS WILL BE, UM, INFORMATION FROM THE OFFICE OF SUSTAINABILITY REGARDING NEIGHBORHOOD RESILIENCY AND THEN INFORMATION FROM OHP REGARDING OUR POLICY GUIDES ON SUSTAINABILITY AND ZERO ESCAPING.
UM, AND THAT'S AGAIN A FREE EVENT FOR ANYBODY.
AND THEN NEXT SATURDAY MORNING IF YOU HAVE KIDS, WE HAVE THE AMAZING PRESERVATION RATES FOR KIDS AT HEMISPHERE.
UM, REGISTRATION FOR THAT IS FILLING UP, BUT IF YOU WANNA LEARN MORE AND SIGNING YOUR HEADS UP, YOU CAN DO THAT ON SA SPEAK UP.COM AND JUST LOOK FOR AMAZING PRESERVATION RACE FOR KIDS.
UM, AND WITH THAT WE CAN LOOK AT MEETING
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MINUTES.UM, ACTION NEEDED FOR JUNE 28TH.
MAY I HAVE A, UM, MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES? SO MOVED.
IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECOND.
MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? CASTILLO? AYE.
OKAY, AND IF WE COULD DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE SCREEN.
UM, WE HAVE A FEW POST MOMENTS WE WANT TO ANNOUNCE.
EAST COMMERCE IS POSTPONED AT THE REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT.
UM, SAME IS FOR ITEMS 13 5 0 8 AND FIVE 10 BOOKER ALLEY AND ITEMS 18 15 16 BURNETT STREET.
THOSE HAVE BOTH BEEN POSTPONED AT THE REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS RECEIVED FOR ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.I DON'T HAVE THE PUBLIC SIGN-IN SHEETS, BUT I'M ASSUMING WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY.
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OKAY.UM, WE HAVE, UH, TWO VOICEMAILS FOR GENERAL COMMENTS THAT I'LL PLAY FIRST AND THEN WE'LL PLAY THOSE FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA.
HELLO, MY NAME IS VALERIE COSTES AND I'M CALLING IN WITH A GENERAL COMMENT FOR THE GROUP, THE CONCERNED CITIZENS OF D WITTY HILL TO HDRC COMMISSIONERS AND OHP STAFF.
I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW MANY OF YOU WERE AWARE OF OR REMEMBER THAT THE ORIGINAL R TEAM FOR THE WHITTY HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WAS DISSOLVED IN 2018.
DUE TO THE DIFFERENCES OF OPINION BETWEEN ARC AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION'S, OFFICERS AND BOARD MEMBERS ON HOW WE SHOULD SUPPORT OR NOT SUPPORT PROJECTS.
THE TERMINATION OF THE ENTIRE ARC TEAM IN 2018 WAS MAINLY DUE TO THE DIFFERENCES OF OPINION WE HELD ON THE DESIGN OF THE HAY STREET BRIDGE APARTMENT PROJECT.
THESE INDIVIDUALS, HOWEVER, DID NOT GO AWAY.
THEY REGROUPED AND THEY CONTINUED DOING THE SAME EXACT WORK AS BEFORE.
WE NOW CALLED IN OUR COMMENTS FOR HDRC ZONING, BOA AND CITY COUNCIL AS THE CONCERNED CITIZENS OF DIG WITTY HILL.
LAST YEAR UNDER NEW NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICERS, THE CONCERNED CITIZENS OF DIGNITY HILL WERE ASKED TO COME BACK TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AS THE OFFICIAL ART COMMITTEE.
AFTER MUCH DISCUSSION, WE AGREED TO REJOIN WITH THE UNDERSTANDING AND CONFIRMATION FROM THE NEW OFFICERS AND BOARD MEMBERS THAT WE WILL FOLLOW OHP GUIDELINES WHEN REVIEWING APPLICATIONS TO COMMENT ON CASES.
HOW WE DECIDE TO SUPPORT OR NOT SUPPORT A CASE WOULD BE STRICTLY BASED ON WHETHER THE APPLICANT FOLLOWED OHP GUIDELINES NO MATTER WHO THE APPLICANT WAS.
WITH THIS BEING ACCEPTED AND UNDERSTOOD, WE OFFICIALLY REJOINED THE DITY HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
HELLO, MY NAME IS LOUIS FRANCOIS AND I'M CALLING IN WITH CONTINUED COMMENTS FROM THE CONCERNED CITIZENS OF DIGNITY WITTY HILL.
AS VALERIE CORTEZ STATED IN HER PREVIOUS COMMENTS, WE RECEIVED CONFIRMATION FROM THE OFFICERS AND BOARD MEMBERS OF THE DIGNITY WITTY HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THAT THEY UNDERSTOOD THAT WE FOLLOW ALL OHP GUIDELINES WHEN COMMENTING ON CASES AND WOULD SUPPORT US ON OUR ANALYSIS OF EACH CASE NO MATTER WHO THE APPLICANT WAS.
UNFORTUNATELY, SOME OFFICERS AND BOARD MEMBERS, NOT ALL, BUT SOME DECIDED THEY DIDN'T LIKE THAT WE FOLLOWED OHP GUIDELINES AND HAVE VOTED TO TERMINATE THE ARC TEAM AND TAKE OVER THE RESPONSIBILITY OF REVIEWING AND COMMENTING ON ALL HGRC CT A AND ZONING CASES THEMSELVES.
PLEASE SEE THE ATTACHED LETTER OF TERMINATION, BUT JUST LIKE IN 2018 WHEN PEOPLE ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT WHAT THEY BELIEVE IN, THEY DON'T GO AWAY, THEY JUST REGROUP.
SO WE'RE HERE TODAY TO NOTIFY YOU THAT THE SAME GROUP OF RESIDENTS THAT REVIEWED CASES AND PROVIDED COMMENTS TO YOU AT THE LAST HGRC MEETING WILL CONTINUE TO DO THE SAME THING FOR TODAY'S CASES AND FUTURE CASES.
BUT WE'RE GOING BACK TO COMMENTING ON THESE CASES AS CONCERNED CITIZENS OF DNE WITTY HILL.
WE ASK THAT YOU REVIEW OUR COMMENTS AND TAKE THEM AS SERIOUSLY AS YOU DID FOR THE SHORT WHILE WE WERE ARC SINCE WE ARE THE SAME EXACT TEAM OF CONCERNED RESIDENTS.
AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE CONTINUED WORK IT TAKES TO KEEP OUR HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS HISTORIC.
THIS IS KATE RUMAN FOR THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY 1146 SOUTH ALAMO TWO TEN TWO TWO FOUR SIX ONE SIX THREE.
REGARDING ITEM NUMBER 2 9 0 1 NATOS.
THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY OF SAN ANTONIO SUPPORTS THE LANDMARK DESIGNATION OF THE 1935 PURE OIL GAS STATION BUILDING AT 9 0 1 NATOS.
THIS BUILDING WAS PART OF OUR HISTORIC GAS STATION SURVEY AND IS THE ONLY SAN ANTONIO EXAMPLE OF THE PURE OIL, RAIN, SPLITTER, ROOF, AND CANOPY STYLE.
THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE PREVIOUS OWNERS AND THE POWER PRESERVATION FOUNDATION TO HELP REHABILITATE THE BUILDING, INCLUDING PROVIDING A SIGNIFICANT GRANT TOWARD ROOF REPAIR IN 2020 AND REHAB OF THE METAL WINDOWS IN 2022.
THIS IS KATE RUCKMAN FOR THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY 1146 SOUTH ALAMO TWO TEN TWO TWO FOUR SIX ONE SIX THREE.
REGARDING ITEM NUMBER 7 4 0 1 V TWO STREET, THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY OF SAN ANTONIO SUPPORTS THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE CONCEPTUAL APPROVAL OF THE PLANS FOR THE B TO ASSEMBLY
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BUILDING.THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY'S EVENT TEAM, A KNIGHT IN OLD SAN ANTONIO IS WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE BUILDING OWNER REGARDING OUR ANNUAL FIESTA EVENT.
WE HOPE TO CONTINUE TO WORK CLOSELY WITH THE BUILDING OWNERSHIP AS THE PLANNING GOES FORWARD.
THIS IS BENJAMIN CORONADO SPEAKING AT 9 3 0 WEST ELLWOOD AVENUE IN BEACON HILL.
I'M CALLING IN REGARDS TO CASE 2024 TO 50.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I STRONGLY SUPPORT THE IMPROVEMENTS AT THE BEACON HILL LINEAR PARK, PARTICULARLY ADVOCATING FOR THE INCLUSION OF DOG PARK.
IT IS CRUCIAL FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO HAVE DESIGNATED SPACE WHERE OUR FOUR HEADED COMPANIONS CAN PLACE SAFELY.
ADDITIONALLY, I EMPHASIZE THE NEED TO FOR A SHADE STRUCTURE WITHIN THE DOG PARK AREA TO NOT ONLY HOST COMMUNAL EVENTS, BUT ALSO TO SHIELD RESIDENTS FROM THE INTENSE SUN.
THIS ENHANCE THESE ENHANCEMENTS WILL GREATLY BENEFIT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND FOSTER A MORE VIBRANT COMMUNITY ATMOSPHERE.
I AM CYNTHIA SPILLMAN AND I LIVE AT 900 WEST WOODLAWN.
THIS MESSAGE IS IN REGARDS TO ITEM NINE AT 1 0 3 2 WEST LINWOOD.
I'M REQUESTING THAT YOU SUPPORT THE ADDITION OF THE DOG PARK AND SHADE STRUCTURE AT THE BEACON HILL LINEAR PARK BECAUSE IT'S WHAT THIS COMMUNITY WANTS IS EVIDENCED BY NUMEROUS VOTES AT MEETINGS AND THE RESULTS OF SURVEYS IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.
WE FOCUS OUR EFFORTS ON COMMUNITY BUILDING AND A SHADE STRUCTURE AND DOG PARK GIVES OUR NEIGHBORS A PLACE TO GATHER.
A DOG PARK ALSO PROVIDES A PLACE FOR DOG OWNERS WHO FIND IT UNSAFE AND OFTEN DIFFICULT TO WALK DOGS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE WE LACK SIDEWALKS AND OFTEN ENCOUNTER STRAYS THAT CAN BE DANGEROUS.
HI, MY NAME IS ELIZABETH IHORN.
I LIVE AT 1102 WEST LINWOOD IN SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS.
I AM CALLING ABOUT CASE NUMBER 2 0 2 4 DASH TWO 50.
I'M CALLING IN FAVOR OF THE IMPROVEMENTS OF 10 32 WEST LINWOOD, UM, AND LOOKING FOR THOSE IMPROVEMENTS TO, UH, PUT TOWARDS A DOG PARK IN THAT PART OF OUR LINEAR PART HERE IN THE BEACON HILL NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND ONCE AGAIN, I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS.
I THINK IT WILL MAKE FOR, UM, USE OR GOOD USE OF THAT SPACE AND ALLOW FOR MORE, UH, OPPORTUNITIES FOR DOGS TO COME AND, UM, BE OUT IN A FUN ENVIRONMENT.
UM, AND ALSO SOME SAFE, UH, GIVE SOME SAFE, YOU KNOW, SPACE FOR A DOG TO KIND OF ROAM AROUND AND PLAY.
HOPE YOU'RE HAVING A GREAT HELLO, MY NAME IS JERRY LOCKEY.
I'M CALLING ABOUT CASE NUMBER 2 0 2 4 DASH 2 5 0.
I'M A RESIDENT OF BEACON HILL LIVING AT 9 31 WEST WOODLAWN.
I'D LIKE YOU FOR Y'ALL TO APPROVE THIS CASE NUMBER AS THIS IS THE FOURTH PHASE OF OUR BEACON HILL LINEAR PARK AND WE ARE ASKING FOR ITEMS THAT ARE NEEDED CURRENTLY NEEDED.
UM, WITH THE ALL THE, ALWAYS THE HEAT PARKS NEED TREES.
WE'RE ASKING FOR TREES, WE'RE ASKING FOR A DOG PARK.
UH, WE HAVE, UH, LOTS OF, UH, ROAMING DOGS AND THIS WILL HELP MANY OF OUR DOG OWNERS TO GET THEIR DOGS OUT.
UH, WE ALSO ARE REALLY NEED SHADE.
THAT'S WHY WE ASKED FOR TREES ALSO.
SO A SHADE STRUCTURE IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US.
I LIVE AT 1 0 2 5 WEST ATCH IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF BEACON HILL.
I'M CALLING ABOUT THE PROPOSED PARK IMPROVEMENTS AT 1 0 3 2 WEST LINWOOD.
I AM ESPECIALLY INTERESTED IN SEEING THIS AREA DEVELOPED INTO A DOG PARK, SOMETHING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD REALLY NEEDS.
WE'VE NEEDED IT FOR MANY YEARS.
WE'VE HELD PUBLIC MEETINGS WHERE NEIGHBORS EXPRESSED THEIR NOT ONLY INTEREST, BUT PROFOUND ENTHUSIASM FOR THE IDEA.
AND SO I HOPE THAT THIS, UH, PROPOSED IMPROVEMENT OF THE DOG PARK IS APPROVED.
D REGARDS, CASE NUMBER 2024 DASH TWO 50.
MY ADDRESS IS 7 3 5 WEST LONGWOOD AVENUE.
I'M A RESIDENT OF BEACON HILL.
I WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL OF THE PARK IMPROVEMENTS PLAN FOR THE BEACON HILL LINEAR PARK RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN REQUESTING A DOG PARK FOR MANY YEARS NOW, AND IT IS A COMMON AMENITY IN MANY CITY PARKS.
THE SHADE STRUCTURE IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE MANY NEIGHBORHOOD EVENTS THAT WE HOLD IN THAT SECTION OF THE PARK.
THESE EVENTS ARE PART OF THE GLUE THAT HOLDS OUR COMMUNITY TOGETHER IN A POSITIVE WAY WITH ALMOST EVER PRESENT HEAT AND SOMETIMES INCLEMENT WEATHER.
A SHADE STRUCTURE BECOMES NOT JUST A LUXURY, BUT A NECESSITY.
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THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE ONE IN PERSON SPEAKER FOR ITEM SEVEN.
BARRY CLARK WANNA COME UP MR. CLARK? YES SIR.
IF YOU WANNA GO UP TO THE PODIUM AND JUST REINTRODUCE YOUR NAME PLEASE.
MY NAME IS BARRY CLARK AND I SERVE ON THE BOARD OF LATA AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS NEW VENTURE WITH THE ASSEMBLY HALL AND HOW THAT'S GONNA TRANSPIRE LOBBY INTO A BIGGER, UH, MESSAGE OVERALL TO OUR VISITORS.
AND, UH, WE COULDN'T BE MORE ELATED.
I HAVE SOME OF MY BOARD MEMBERS WITH ME TODAY, BUT I GOT WRANGLED TO SPEAK TODAY, SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
BUT, UH, UM, WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO TELL THE COMPLETE STORY OF LA VITA AND I THINK WE'VE FOUND THAT BEAUTIFUL PIECE TO HELP US CARRY FORWARD.
SO WE'RE ALL IN FAVOR AT THE BOARD OF LA VITA AS UH, TENANTS ASSOCIATION.
OKAY, THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENTS.
DO ANY COMMISSIONS WISH TO PULL
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ANY ITEMS? MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO PULL NUMBER SEVEN FOR QUESTIONS AND THEN I'LL BE RECUSING ON NUMBER TWO AND THREE.ANY OTHER ITEMS? MR. CHAIR? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.
OH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE MOTION TO ACCEPT ALL OF THE PROJECTS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH ARE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 WITH ALL OF STAFF'S STIPULATIONS.
SECOND? YEAH, JUST TO NOTE THAT SIX IS POSTPONED, SO NOT INCLUDED IN THE MOTION.
MINUS SIX FOR POSTPONEMENT SECOND STANDS.
IF YOUR HONOR, THE CONSENT AGENDA AND YOUR ADDRESS IS 1106 BURLESON 9 0 1, NO GTOS.
1210 EAST ELMIRA 1 0 3 NINTH STREET, 3 3 3 NORTH SANTA ROSA, THREE 11 THIRD 10 32 LINWOOD FIVE 15 RIVERSIDE, THREE 10 SOUTH ST.
YOUR CASE HAS BEEN APPROVED AND YOU DO NOT NEED TO STAY FOR THE REMAINDER OF THIS HEARING.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE CONTACT A MEMBER OF STAFF.
YOUR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS OR COMMISSION ACTION LETTER WILL BE PREPARED AND EMAILED TO YOU, UH, WITHIN 10 DAYS.
UH, HOLD UP, I'LL PULL UP ITEM NUMBER 7 4 0 1
[7. Address/Description: 401 VILLITA ST HDRC Case No.: 2024-240 Historic District Name: La Villita RIO District: RIO-3 Applicant: Stephen Guzman/Ford Powell Carson Request: Exterior modifications, site modifications, roof replacement, rehabilitation City Council Dist.: 1 ]
VITA.UH, THE APPLICANT TEAM IS HERE IN PERSON.
SO ADAM AND STEVEN, IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO COME UP NOW, CAN I ASK A QUESTION, MR. CHAIR? SURE, GO AHEAD.
THERE'S WHAT'S ON THE EXCELS, IT SAYS A LETTER IN SUPPORT.
IS THAT THE ONE IN PACKET OR DID WE FIND IT? YEAH, YOU SHOULD HAVE A LETTER IN YOUR PACKET IN SUPPORT.
BUT THERE'S ONE ON, THAT'S THE LETTER.
OH NO, IT'S A CONSERVATION SOCIETY ONE.
WHAT PAGE IS THAT? NOT ENOUGH FOLDER, BUT 10.
NOT IN THE FOLDER BUT ON THE SCREEN.
UM, I THINK IT'S TIME THAT THE LATA ASSEMBLY HALL ACTUALLY CONNECTS DECENTLY TO THE SAN ANTONIO RIVER AND IT'LL BE A LARGE, UH, IMPROVEMENT TO THAT PART OF LATA.
BUT I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE, UH, PROPOSED DESIGN.
UM, SOME OF 'EM SMALL, SOME OF 'EM LARGE.
UH, THE, THE MAIN ONE IS ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER WHERE YOU'RE PROPOSING TO REMOVE A SECTION OF THE ROOF CORRECT.
WHERE YOU'RE PLANNING TO INSTALL THE NEW STOREFRONT.
AND, UM, IF YOU'D EXPLAIN THAT YOUR REASONING FOR THAT.
I'M JUST THINKING THAT, UM, YOU'RE CREATING AN OUTDOOR DECK THERE AND YOUR RENDERINGS ARE SHOWING TABLES AND CHAIRS AND, UH, GUESTS AND EVERYTHING.
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SHADE, NEEDED SHADE FOR THAT PORTION OF THE PROJECT.SO IF YOU'D EXPLAIN, UH, WHAT THAT DESIGN DETAIL IS, UM, ALL ABOUT.
THANK YOU JEFF AND COMMISSIONERS.
I'M ADAM REED WITH FORT POWELL.
I ALSO HAVE BOBBY MCGEE, WHO'S OUR, UH, CLIENT OWNER OF MLSA WHO, UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH.
UM, SO ON THE NORTHEAST, UH, PORTION OF THE BUILDING QUADRANT OF THE BUILDING, WE ARE PROPOSING REMOVING A PORS.
UH, THE, UH, THE ROOF ELEMENT YOU SEE THERE.
UH, IT'S KIND OF GOT A FEW REASONS, UH, WHY WE'RE HAVING TO DO THAT.
AS A RESULT OF LOWERING THE PLAZA LEVEL TO RIVER, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO, UM, SHORE OUT ALL OF THE STRUCTURE AND REMOVE THE SLAB THAT'S THERE.
CURRENTLY, WE DON'T THINK WE CAN KEEP THE ROOF INTACT WITHOUT HAVING SOME HIGH SHORING.
THE MAIN REASON IS, AS PART OF DOING THE LARGE STOREFRONT UP, UM, ON THE NORTHEAST FACADE IS WE'RE TRYING TO BRING MORE LIGHT AND VISIBILITY INTO THE SPACE.
AND BEING THIS IS ON THE NORTHEAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING, THE SHADE ACTUALLY DOESN'T PROVIDE MUCH ADDITIONAL, UM, MITIGATION FROM SUN GLARE DIRECTLY, UM, AS IT WOULD OTHER, OTHER PLACES OF THE BUILDING.
UM, SO BY VIRTUE OF HAVING THE PLAZA LEVEL, UM, BEING THE NEW WALKING SURFACE, UM, AND TRYING TO BRING MORE VISIBILITY INTO THE GLASS ABOVE THE, THE ROOF IS, IS PLANNED TO COME OUT THERE, WE DO PLAN TO, UM, KIND OF STRENGTHEN THE DATUM LINE OF WHERE THE ROOF WAS WITH THE MULIAN PATTERN ON THE GLAZING.
SO WE CAN KIND OF KEEP THAT SAME LINE INTACT.
UM, THAT WAS A COMMENT WE ACTUALLY HAD FROM THE THC ON A PRELIMINARY PHONE CALL AS WELL.
UM, BUT THOSE ARE THE MAIN REASONS AS TO WHY.
UM, THERE ARE SEVERAL TREES BEING REMOVED.
UM, I THINK THE PLAN ON PAGE 78.
UH, SO THE LARGE OAK TREE IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER, UH, I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE, UH, PROPOSING TO MAKE THAT MORE OF A, AN OUTDOOR DECK, A CONNECTION.
AND, UH, SO TWO QUESTIONS ON THAT CORNER IS, UH, WHY IS THAT TREE BEING REMOVED AND WHY ARE THE, UH, BRICK PAVERS BEING REPLACED WITH WOOD DECKING, WHICH I WOULD THINK IS A LONG-TERM MAINTENANCE CONCERN? SURE.
SO THAT TREE SPECIFICALLY, ALONG WITH THE PALM TREES THAT ARE SHOWN JUST TO THE KIND OF, UM, UPPER LEFT OF, OF THOSE AGAINST THE BUILDING, UH, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATION WITH THE CONSTRUCTOR, THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR, ABOUT HOW TO ACTUALLY GET SOME OF THE SPOILS OFF THE SITE AND CONSTRUCTION LOGISTICS PATH.
WE DON'T FEEL LIKE, THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE WE CAN ACTUALLY KEEP IN WITH, WITH HEAVY PRUNING, HIGH PRUNING THOSE TREES OUTSIDE OF THE AREA THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO GET ALL OF THAT LAND AT RIVER, UH, THE UPPER, UPPER RIGHT QUADRANT BACK OUT TO V TO STREET.
SINCE WE HAVE SUCH LIMITED ACCESS TO HOW WE CAN GET MATERIALS IN AND OUT, UM, THERE, UH, IS A GOOD REASON FOR THE WOOD DECKING.
UH, WE ARE RE UH, RECOMMENDING, UM, UH, REPLACING THE RESTROOMS THAT ARE PUBLIC USE OVER THERE NEXT TO US IN THE, IN THE, UH, UH, HARNESS AND RIVER THEATER.
UH, MAINLY THE WOOD DECKING IS BECAUSE WE'RE MAKING SURE THE ELEVATION OF THAT PLAZA IS ACTUALLY LEVEL WITH V TO STREET AS OPPOSED TO THE LOWER PLAZA.
AND AS WE GO UP, OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS HAVE RECOMMENDED A WOOD DECK ON, UM, ON PUCKS, ON PILE ON, ON SMALL PIERS, UH, TO ALLOW THE ROOTS TO ACTUALLY STILL MAINTAIN DRAINAGE FOR THE TREES BELOW THE TREE.
ROOT ZONE IS L IS ABOUT, UM, 18 INCHES, ABOUT 18 INCHES BELOW WHERE THE DECK HEIGHT WOULD BE.
AND THE DECK PROVIDES THE MOST POROUS GROUND SURFACE TO IDENTIFY NOT JUST THE SEATING AREA, BUT ALSO LET THEM STILL HAVE MOISTURE.
I MAY HAVE MORE QUESTIONS, BUT I'LL PASS TO OTHER COMMISSIONERS.
UM, THANK YOU FOR A GREAT, UH, PRODUCTION PROPOSAL PRODUCTION.
UM, SEEING IT FROM ALL ANGLES, LET ME, UM, THE QUESTIONS THAT, UM, WERE JUST POSED GOT ME THINKING.
AND HAVE Y'ALL DONE SHADOW SOLAR STUDIES WITH THAT ROOF INTACT AND WITH THE ROOF REMOVED FOR THE NORTHEAST PORTION OF THE ROOF? MM-HMM.
AND PART OF WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO IS ACTUALLY WHEN THE ROOF STRUCTURE WAS THERE, WHEN WE RAN THE SOLAR STUDY IN OUR REVIT MODEL MM-HMM.
UM, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE UPPER LEVEL OF WHERE PEOPLE ARE SITTING ON THIS RENDERING HERE, UH, BY THE TIME THE SUN IS UP AT ITS HIGHEST POINT, THE BUILDING ITSELF IS SHADING THE DECK VERSUS IT ACTUALLY BEING, UH, UM, UH, ROOF RELIANT TO DO THAT.
SO WE DON'T REALLY THINK WE NEED THE ROOF ON THAT LOWER SECTION OKAY.
BECAUSE THE TIME OF THE YEAR REALLY MAKES A DIFFERENCE.
I THINK THROUGH END OF MAY, JUNE AND JULY AND WHEN THE SUNS HIGHER AUGUST, WE STILL HAVE DIRECT SUNLIGHT ON, UM, THE NORTH SIDE OF OUR BUILDINGS HERE.
UM, WOULD YOU BE OPEN, I I TOO AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE LOSS SURE.
OF THE CONTINUITY OF THAT FORM THAT GOES AROUND.
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A CHARACTER DEFINING FEATURE OF THAT.IT, IT MIRRORS THE ROOF OVERHANG.
IF IT WAS EITHER SOME KIND OF A, UH, SHADE STRUCTURE THAT'S RETRACTABLE IF IT WAS JUST KIND OF CARRYING AN EDGE YEP.
SOMETHING THAT COULD PROVIDE SOME SHADE.
AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT JUST THE COST ASSOCIATIONS WITH DOING THAT WITH THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR AND MY OWNER HERE, I THINK WE'D BE OPEN TO TALKING ABOUT THOSE OPTIONS.
BECAUSE WHAT THAT DOES IS, WHAT YOU'RE ALREADY DOING IS YOU ARE, UM, I GUESS OPENING UP THE BUILDING RIGHT FROM A OPAQUE BOX, UM, AN OPAQUE BOX, MAKING IT TRANSPARENT, TRANSLUCENT, YOU'RE PLAYING WITH THOSE QUALITIES AND THAT COULD CARRY IT OUT INTO A HORIZONTAL, UM, EXPRESSION.
WE'D LIKE TO TRY TO KEEP THE FORM INTACT AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO CARVE IN AND PUSH OUT ON THE ACTUAL VERTICAL SURFACES.
SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE A WAY OF BEING ABLE TO KEEP THE, THE LINE THERE.
I MAY HAVE MORE QUESTIONS LATER TOO.
COMMISSION OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER, FESTER.
I THINK I'M GOOD AT THIS POINT.
YOU'VE, UH, ADDRESSED MY, UH, QUESTIONS AND YOUR WILLINGNESS TO STUDY SOME SORT OF HORIZONTAL PLANE.
IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS.
UM, THE OTHER TOPIC I WANTED TO ADDRESS IS, CAN BE VIEWED IN SLIDE 67.
UM, YOU'RE, YOU'RE TAKING OUT THE WINDING STAIRCASE, YOU'RE DROPPING THE LEVEL DOWN.
SO YOU WERE LOSING THAT LARGE OAK TREE MM-HMM.
UM, THE BENEFIT OF THOSE ELEMENTS IS THAT THEY ALL PROVIDE SHADE IN THAT AREA.
SOMETHING MIGHT BE HIDDEN, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY, UM, PROVIDING SHADE TO THE SURFACES WHICH HELP KEEP THE HEAT DOWN ON THE SURFACES.
AND THEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT 68, EVEN THOUGH THE TREES ARE SMALL HERE, UM, THEY WILL GET BIGGER.
I WOULD JUST ASK IF YOU WERE, UM, ALSO AMENABLE TO LOOKING AT FURTHER LOOKING AT AND EXPLORING THE LANDSCAPE OPTIONS TO CREATE MORE VERTICALITY, MORE CANOPY FOR THAT SPECIFIC AREA.
IN FACT, IF WE GO TO, UM, UH, THE NEXT SLIDE, I BELIEVE MAYBE IT'S 69 HERE, YOU CAN SEE KINDA A BETTER ANGLE.
WE ARE, UH, AS WE LOWER THE GROUND PLANE DOWN F 14 FEET OR SO TO RIVER LEVEL, WE ARE PROPOSING, UH, MITIGATING SOME ADDITIONAL TREES OR ADDING SOME ADDITIONAL TREES IN THAT SAME POCKET THAT WOULD PROVIDE A VERTICAL ELEMENT, BUT ALSO SHADE FOR THE OUTSIDE LOWER DINING AREA, WHICH IS OVER ON THE FAR LEFT.
YOU CAN SEE THERE, UM, AS WE, AS WE WERE WALKING ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE BUILDING, NOW WE HAVE THE WALL THAT PROVIDES SHADE.
IT'S HORRIBLE BACK THERE, BUT IT PROVIDES SHADE.
SO I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT ONCE WE REMOVE ALL THOSE FEATURES, WE NOW HAVE THIS VERY OPEN SPACE THAT IS GOING TO BE IN SUN CONSTANTLY.
SO I, IF YOU, UM, UH, COULD LOOK INTO LANDSCAPE, WE'RE, WE'RE CONTINUING, WE HAVE A, A GREAT LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, UM, ON OUR TEAM AND, UM, I'D SAY A LOT OF THE PROJECT EFFORT TODAY HAS BEEN WORKING ON LANDSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS AND, AND, AND RECLAMATION OF WHAT'S THERE NOW.
AND I THINK TRYING TO FIND THE HEALTHY BALANCE BETWEEN, UM, SOFTSCAPE HARDSCAPE, YOU KNOW, RENEWABLE SQUARE FOOTAGES FOR TENANTS AND UM, AND NICE AMENITIES IS SOMETHING WE'RE STILL GONNA CONTINUE TO LOOK AT.
SO I THINK THAT COMMENT IS SOMETHING WE WOULD DEFINITELY TAKE TO CONSIDERATION.
WELL, IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL UH, ATTEMPT A MOTION.
CAN I JUST ASK ONE MORE QUESTION ABOUT THE STIPULATIONS? YOU ALL AGREE TO ALL THE STIPULATIONS THAT STAFF HAVE? MS I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? WHAT TODAY, SORRY, I'M OVER HERE.
IN THE RECOMMENDATION, YES MA'AM.
I MOVE FOR CONCEPTUAL APPROVAL, UH, WITH STAFF STIPULATIONS AND THE ADDITIONAL, UH, STIPULATIONS OF FURTHER STUDY OF A HORIZONTAL ROOF PLANE AT THE, UH, AREA ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE BUILDING WHERE THE, UH, EXISTING ROOF IS
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BEING RE UH, REMOVED.AND ALSO FURTHER STUDY ON THE, UH, MONUMENTAL STAIR AND LANDSCAPE AND SHADING, UH, PORTION OF THE SITE.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? CASTILLO? AYE.
[INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION]
ITEM NUMBER 13, 5 0 8 AND FIVE 10 BOOKER ALLEY HAS BEEN POSTPONED BY THE APPLICANT.WE'LL MOVE ON NOW TO ITEM NUMBER 14.
ITEM NUMBER 14, HDRC, CASE NUMBER 20 24 2 2 7 16 13 NORTH ALAMO.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR APPROVAL TO DEMOLISH THE HISTORIC STRUCTURE AT 1613 NORTH ALAMO, AN INDIVIDUAL LANDMARK.
THE STRUCTURE WAS HEAVILY DAMAGED BY FIRE ON APRIL 23RD, 2024.
STAFF DOES NOT FIND THAT THE APPLICANT HAS MET THE UD C'S REQUIREMENT FOR AN UNREASONABLE ECONOMIC HARDSHIP AS NOTED IN FINDING F.
HOWEVER, STAFF FINDS THAT THE STRUCTURE MAY HAVE EXPERIENCED A LOSS OF SIGNIFICANCE SHOULD THE HISTORIC AND DESIGN REVIEW COMMISSION FIND AN UNREASONABLE ECONOMIC HARDSHIP OR A LOSS OF SIGNIFICANCE NOT CAUSED DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY BY THE OWNER.
AS NOTED IN FINDING F AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE DEMOLITION OF THIS STRUCTURE, STAFF RECOMMENDS THE FOLLOWING.
ONE, THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDE DOCUMENTATION OF THE STRUCTURE'S ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE UDC SECTION 35, 614 D AND TWO, THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDE A DETAILED SALVAGE PLAN DOCUMENTING WHICH ELEMENTS WILL BE SALVAGED THROUGH DECONSTRUCTION AS REQUIRED BY CODE.
ALL REQUIREMENTS OF THE UDC SECTION 35 614 D AND E MUST BE SATISFIED PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF A DEMOLITION PERMIT.
UH, THE APPLICANT, ASHLEY FAIRMAN, IS HERE IN PERSON.
ASHLEY FAIRMONT, KILLING GRIFFIN AND FAIRMONT.
I'M HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF, UH, BESA LAND PARTNERS.
THEY'RE THE OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY.
UH, I'LL SHOW YOU WHAT ELSE THEY OWN.
UM, HERE, LET ME, I'LL, I'LL, OKAY.
BUT, SO BESA IS IN THE PROCESS OF REDEVELOPING PROPERTY ALONG BROADWAY AND THEY OWN ADDITIONAL PROPERTIES TO THE, TO THE EAST, I GUESS, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF ALAMO AND FURTHER INTO THE GOVERNMENT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY THIS STRUCTURE AT 1613 NORTH ALAMO, UM, CAUGHT FIRE IN APRIL.
AND, UH, IT WAS DUE TO PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIVE THERE BEING IN THE STRUCTURE.
UH, THE FIRE HAPPENED OVERNIGHT AND UNFORTUNATELY, UH, WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE STRUCTURE CAN BE SALVAGED.
SO IT'S ABOUT 1300 SQUARE FEET, A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT.
UM, ED'S PULLING UP A BIG EXHIBIT.
WE CAN JUST, I CAN WORK FROM THAT.
UM, SO THERE'S THE HOME ON THE RIGHT.
UH, THE OTHER STRUCTURE TO THE LEFT IS ALSO ON THE PROPERTY THAT'S OWNED BY BESA LAND PARTNERS AS WELL.
UM, AND CAN YOU GO TO LIKE AN OVERALL AERIAL? SO IF YOU SEE THAT WHOLE VACANT PROPERTY THERE, UM, THAT IS GOING TO BE REDEVELOPED AS A MIXED COMMERCIAL PROJECT INCLUDES HOTEL RETAIL, UM, ACTUALLY FORD POWELL CARSON IS HERE.
THEY'RE THE ARCHITECTS ON THE PROJECT.
WE HAVE NOT SUBMITTED YET FOR CONCEPTUAL DESIGN.
UM, THAT IS COMING IN A FEW MONTHS.
UNFORTUNATELY, THIS HAPPENED A LITTLE BIT SOONER.
UM, AND SO THE IDEA IS TO REDEVELOP THAT ENTIRE BLOCK AND THAT WILL BE A, A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WILL COME TO YOU.
UM, THE PROPERTIES, I DIDN'T, WELL, I GUESS WE CAN'T SHOW IT, BUT I WANTED TO SHOW YOU THE OTHER PROPERTIES THAT THEY OWN BECAUSE THE INTENT HAS ALWAYS BEEN TO MOVE THIS STRUCTURE ALONG WITH THAT WHITE HOUSE THAT'S NEXT DOOR.
SO THE INTENT IS STILL TO MOVE THE WHITE HOUSE.
UNFORTUNATELY THIS ONE CAN'T BE MOVED.
UM, SO WE HAD A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER, I THINK IT WAS IN YOUR PACKET, GO OUT AND LOOK AT THE, THE HOUSE AND SEE IF IT COULD BE SAVED.
THEIR RECOMMENDATION WAS FOR DEMOLITION.
UM, I KNOW SOME OF YOU HAVE VISITED IT AS WELL.
THERE'S SIGNIFICANT FIRE DAMAGE TO THE INTERIOR OF THE STRUCTURE.
UM, THE ROOF, THE FLOOR SIDING, EVERYTHING HAS, HAS DAMAGE.
UM, WE, YEAH, THERE'S THE STRUCTURAL REPORT.
THERE'S ALSO, UM, WE HAD CONTRACTOR GO AND LOOK AND SEE WHAT THE COST WOULD BE TO REBUILD THE HOME.
UH, THAT WOULD ALSO REQUIRE A DEMOLITION, BUT THAT WAS ABOUT $430,000, OR SORRY, $470,000 TO REBUILD, UM, THE BE A APPRAISAL.
I KNOW IN YOUR PACKET IT SAID IT WAS ABOVE 900,000.
UH, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE BREAKDOWN THERE, UM, ALMOST ALL OF THAT IS LAND VALUE.
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THIS YEAR, I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHY THE HOUSE IS ONLY APPRAISED AT $10,000 THIS YEAR, BUT IF YOU LOOK BACK AT PREVIOUS ESTIMATES, WHICH I THINK ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE ACCURATE, THE LAST TWO YEARS IT WAS 160 ISH THOUSAND DOLLARS.UM, AND SO WE FEEL THAT THE IDEA OF REBUILDING THE STRUCTURE, WHICH IS NOT THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURE, IT WOULD JUST BE BASICALLY A REPLICA OF WHAT IS THERE ALONG WITH, UM, SALVAGE OF MATERIALS IS NOT THE BEST OPTION.
WE WOULD THEN BE COMING BACK TO YOU TO MOVE IT, UM, AS WELL.
SO WE'RE PROPOSING THE DEMOLITION, I HOPE YOU'LL APPROVE IT.
UM, WE DID ALSO LOOK AT THE SALVAGE SALVAGING OF AS MANY MATERIALS AS POSSIBLE.
UM, IN THE PACKET THERE WAS A LIST OF THINGS THAT WE THINK CAN BE SALVAGED AND WE'LL WORK CLOSELY WITH, UH, ED AND HIS TEAM ON SALVAGING THOSE MATERIALS.
SO, AND HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PLAN.
UM, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO VISITED THE SITE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME WOOD SIDING, UM, COLUMNS, THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WE THINK CERTAINLY CAN BE SAVED IN ADDITION TO SOME OTHER, UM, MATERIALS AS WELL.
UH, WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? I HAVE A QUESTION.
UM, I WAS ABLE TO TAKE A SITE VISIT.
WE CHATTED ABOUT THE, WHAT WAS THERE AND WHAT WAS NO LONGER THERE.
IT'S VERY CLEAR ABOUT, UM, TWO THIRDS OF THE WAY INTO THE BACK.
UM, A LARGE FIRE BEGAN AND REALLY DID SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE.
UM, BUT GOING BACK TO Y'ALL'S ORIGINAL PLAN MM-HMM.
SO THERE WAS ALREADY PLANS IN THE WORKS, UM, UH, BECAUSE THE FIRST, APPROXIMATELY THE FIRST 15 TO 20 FEET OF THE HOUSE STILL REMAINS IN VIABLE CONDITION.
UH, HAVE YOU GIVEN FURTHER THOUGHT TO, UH, REMOVING, DOING A PARTIAL DEMO, REMOVING WHAT IS OBVIOUSLY DAMAGE AND RELOCATING THAT VERY CHARACTER DEFINING FRONT THAT ARTS AND CRAFT STYLE, ALL THAT DETAILING ALL THAT BEAUTIFUL, UM, PORCH THAT REMAINS IN THE FRONT ELEVATION.
LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET A GOOD PICTURE OF IT.
UM, AND MOVING IT TO ONE OF Y'ALL'S OTHER PROPERTIES AND THEN, UH, PURSUING A REBUILD IN THE BACK.
NOT IDENTICAL, BUT IT'S, IT WOULD BE NEW.
YEAH, I MEAN WE DID TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.
UM, IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE STILL OPEN TO LOOKING AT.
I DON'T THINK IT'S THE BEST OPTION.
WE ACTUALLY THINK IT'S BETTER TO MAYBE USE THE MATERIALS ON OTHER EXISTING HISTORIC STRUCTURES IF POSSIBLE.
UM, IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE, WE'RE WILLING TO STILL CONSIDER.
UM, BUT I DON'T HAVE A DEFINITIVE YES ON THAT FOR YOU TODAY.
IT WOULD REQUIRE A LITTLE BIT OF CALLING AROUND RESEARCH.
AND PART OF THE REASON I SAY THAT IS BECAUSE, UM, UH, IF THIS BUILDING WAS REMOVED, PROBABLY SIMILAR TO THE LARGER ONE, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE BROKEN UP INTO PIECES.
IT'S GONNA BE CUT UP TO MOVE AND HERE YOU'VE GOT THAT CUT LINE ALL READY TO GO.
AND THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE PLACES WHERE ONE COULD CUT THE BUILDING TO MOVE IT OFF THE LOT.
UM, THE STAFF AND GUEST AND THAT, SO WAS DETAILED SAVAGE PLAN, UM, DECONSTRUCTION.
SO WE ARE, WE CAN APPROVE A DEMOLITION WITHOUT REQUIRING RECONSTRUCTION PLAN IN THIS CASE BECAUSE OF LOSS OF SIGNIFICANCE IN ANY CASE, YEAH, YOU CAN REVIEW THE DEMOLITION BASED ON ECONOMIC HARDSHIP OR LOSS OF SIGNIFICANCE.
IT DOES NOT REQUIRE REPLACEMENT PLANS TO BE SUBMITTED.
WE JUST DON'T ISSUE THE DEMOLITION PERMIT UNTIL IF THERE ARE REPLACEMENT PLANS UNTIL THOSE ARE SUBMITTED.
THERE DID NOT BE IN THE MOTION THAT WE ALSO ARE NOT REQUIRING, UM, REBUILD.
WOULD IT AFFECT FOR THE FUTURE PLANS SINCE THE REBUILD IS NOT ON THE PLANS? I THINK WHAT'S PROPOSED IS A TEMPORARILY VACANT LOT UNTIL NEW PLANS CAN BE SUBMITTED.
UM, YEAH, I MEAN I, I DUNNO IF IT'S FEASIBLE AND ED AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT LAST WEEK, BUT THE, THE STRUCTURE WAS NOT, IT WAS LOOKED AT FOR EMERGENCY DEMOLITION TO SEE IF THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, NEEDED TO HAPPEN.
SO THAT, THAT WASN'T REQUIRED.
BUT WE DO FEEL THAT IT'S UNSAFE.
UM, PRIOR TO THE FIRE, THERE WAS SECURITY VISITING THIS SITE ABOUT FOUR TIMES A DAY, UH, AND THE OTHER PROPERTIES AS WELL.
WELL, WHAT I MEAN IS YOU'RE NOT GONNA REBUILD THIS HOUSE.
YOU'RE GONNA MOVE THE OTHER ONE, MOVE THE OTHER ONE.
SO REBUILDING WILL BE NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS.
LIKE WHEN WE LOOK AT SOMETHING THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT REBUILDING PLAN, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO CURE DEFINING LIKE WE ARE COPYING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TAKING SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WE DEMOLISHED.
THAT WON'T BE AN OPTION BECAUSE YOUR WHOLE PLAN DEVELOPMENT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TOO SMALL HOUSES.
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YES, IF WE APPROVE A DEMOLITION GO AHEAD AND DEMOLISH AND BECAUSE OF LOSS OF SIGNIFICANCE, THEY ARE, WHEN THEY COME WITH REBUILD PLANTS WILL THEN BE BOUND BY THIS DEMOLITION AND THIS PROPERTY BECAUSE WE NORMALLY SAY YOU REBUILD USING SOME OF THE WHAT WAS THEIR EXISTING BEFORE.BUT THEY'RE NOT GONNA PROPOSE A NEW RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE.
IT'S GONNA BE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT MULTIUSE.
SO THAT'S WHAT I'M WANNA SHARE.
LIKE THEY WILL NOT, THIS WILL NOT AFFECT IT ANYWAY.
WE WON'T REQUIRE THEM TO REPLICATE THIS THERE OR ANYWHERE ELSE.
I MEAN NOT UNLESS THE DEMOLITION IS DENIED AND THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK WITH ANOTHER PROPOSAL FOR EITHER RETAINING THE STRUCTURE, RELOCATING IT AS ORIGINALLY INTENDED.
BUT A CONDITION OF THE DEMOLITION WOULD BE THE SALVAGE POTENTIALLY? YES.
YEAH, JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON COMMISSIONER ENO'S COMMENT.
SO IF THEY'RE OUT ABLE TO SALVAGE THE FIRST THIRD OF THAT HOUSE, THAT FRONT FACADE AND THE FIRST THIRD OF IT AND MOVE IT AND THEN TO ANOTHER LOCATION AND THEN BUILD ON THE BACK, IS THAT CONSIDERED A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT HOUSE OR IS IT STILL THE SAME HOUSE? IT WOULD STILL BE A HISTORIC RESOURCE.
UM, ANYTIME A PROPERTY IS RELOCATED A HISTORIC PROPERTY, THERE'S A REQUIREMENT THAT THE NEW PROPERTY ALSO BE DESIGNATED HISTORIC.
SO IT WOULD STILL REMAIN IF WE RELOCATED A HISTORIC DESIGNATED PROPERTY.
UM, TO THAT POINT, COULD THAT ONE THIRD OF THE HOUSE BE CONSIDERED SALVAGE AND THAT IT IS SALVAGED IN ITS ENTIRETY AS PART OF THAT SALVAGE IN INVENTORY? OH, THAT'S OKAY.
I HAD SOME EXHIBITS AT THE TOP IF IT WERE SO STIPULATED.
YEAH, WE'RE IN UNCHARTED TERRITORY HERE.
UM, I'M TRYING TO REALLY KIND OF RECONCILE WHAT THIS WOULD PRACTICALLY LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF PERMITTING.
UM, BUT YEAH, LIKE I WOULD CONSIDER THAT AS NOT AN APPROVAL OF DEMOLITION.
UM, AND THEN YOU WOULD HAVE DIRECTION AS THE APPLICANT TO COME BACK AND PROPOSE A RELOCATION.
IF YOU'RE SATISFIED WITH THE LEVEL OF KIND OF RECOVERY TO WHERE WE'RE NOT NO LONGER CONSIDERING IT A HISTORIC LANDMARK THAT NEEDS TO BE RE-DESIGNATED AT A NEW LOCATION, THEN THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT, THAT DETAIL OF THE ACTION.
UM, SO THIS WOULD BE, OR POTENTIALLY I DO THINK LIKE AN APPROVAL TO DEMOLISH WITH THE STIPULATION THAT PRIORITY FOR SALVAGE BE PLACED ON THE FRONT THIRD AND INCLUDING, AND, YOU KNOW, THEY MIGHT HAVE TO ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT HOW FEASIBLE THIS IS, BUT YEAH, NOT DECONSTRUCTING, BUT TRYING TO RELOCATE IN WHOLE THAT ONE THIRD.
MM-HMM,
AND THE, THE REASON WHY I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT IS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF EMBODIED ENERGY, A LOT OF RESOURCES, HISTORIC MATERIAL THAT CANNOT BE RE REPRODUCED IN AN ECONOMIC WAY.
SO IF THERE'S A WAY IT CAN GO INTO THAT SALVAGE PROGRAM, YEAH, MY ONLY THINKING IS IT IS PROBABLY JUST AS FEASIBLE AND PROBABLY MORE ECONOMICAL TO TAKE IT APART AND PUT IT BACK TOGETHER SOMEWHERE ELSE THAN IT IS TO RELOCATE IN A WHOLE.
AND SO SOMETHING TO BE CONSIDERED.
I WOULD ALSO JUST COMMENT, I I'M NOT SURE IT CAN BE RELOCATED THE FRONT PART.
THAT THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY OTHER THING.
THERE'S, UM, QUITE A BIT OF DAMAGE TO THE TOP AND THE BOTTOM
SO, UM, IT, IT WOULD JUST, I'M JUST NOT SURE IT'S FEASIBLE.
BUT THE CONVERSATION BEING ABOUT HOW TO LOOK AT IT AS SALVAGE INSTEAD.
AND IT'S NO LONGER HISTORIC, THEN IT GOES INTO AN OPEN, I DON'T KNOW, MARKET OR INTO MM-HMM.
SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THE BUILDING WAS SIGNIFICANTLY DAMAGED, YOU KNOW, BY THE FIRE AND YOUR, UM, YOUR TEAM RECOMMENDED THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS SIMPLY BE DEMOLISHED.
UM, OBVIOUSLY WITH THE THIRD OF THE HOUSE THAT WASN'T DAMAGED, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT DOING SOMETHING WITH THAT.
SO IT, IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, IT IT WAS, IT WAS NEVER YOUR DESIRE SINCE THE FIRE HAPPENED.
IT WAS NEVER YOUR DESIRE TO DO ANYTHING ELSE.
YOU JUST WANTED TO BE DEMOLISHED.
YOU DON'T WANT TO TAKE ANY ELEMENTS AND MOVE ANYWHERE ELSE OR WHAT, WHAT IS YOUR DESIRE? I I THINK THE PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO SALVAGE THE MATERIALS AND USE ELSEWHERE OR PUT ON THE MARKET FOR USE IN OTHER HOMES.
THAT WOULD BE THE, THE PREFERENCE.
UM, SINCE THE FIRE AND THERE IS THE FRONT, IF YOU JUST DRIVE BY IN, IN THE, FOR THOSE WHO VISITED IT, IT LOOKS NICE WHEN YOU DRIVE BY, BUT WHEN YOU GET UP A LITTLE CLOSER, THERE'S CERTAINLY DAMAGED TO SOME OF THOSE MATERIALS, BUT A LOT OF THE SIDING IS NOT DAMAGED.
UM, AND THAT CAN BE SALVAGED AND SOME OTHER THINGS WE INCLUDED ON OUR LIST.
UM, BUT THERE'S A, RIGHT NOW AT THIS LOCATION WITH THE DAMAGE TO THE STRUCTURE AND WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE
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BROKEN INTO THE STRUCTURE, CONTINUE TO, TO TRY TO BREAK INTO STRUCTURES, THERE'S A BIG LIABILITY CONCERN ALSO.UM, RIGHT NOW WE'RE VERY CONCERNED AND NOW THAT THEY'RE PAYING FOR 24 7 SECURITY JUST ON THESE TWO HOMES TO ENSURE THAT NO ONE COMES IN, OBVIOUSLY TO DAMAGE THE LARGER WHITE HOME, BUT ALSO THIS SMALL HOME, WHILE IT'S SMALL, IS DANGEROUS TO BE IN.
SO RIGHT NOW OUR PREFERENCE IS TO DEMOLISH BUT WITH A SALVAGE PLAN AND, AND REALLY I GUESS DECONSTRUCT, UM, AND THEN DONATE OR SELL THOSE MATERIALS.
OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? NO.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION PLEASE? I CAN DO A MOTION.
A MOTION TO APPROVE, UM, DEMOLITION, UM, CAUSED BY A LOSS OF, WELL BY LOSS OF SIGNIFICANCE WITH STAFF STIPULATIONS ONE AND TWO.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECOND FURTHER DISCUSSION.
I JUST WANNA SAY, I THINK THAT STIPULATION ONE AND TWO DOESN'T COVER DOES COVER KIND OF WHERE COMMISSIONER WAS GOING THAT DISCUSSION.
SO JUST WANNA MAKE CLEAR THAT I, THAT'S WHY I FEEL LIKE NOT HAVING TO ADD ANY MORE RELATION OR DOCUMENTATION OF THE FRONT AND THEN A SALVAGE PLAN.
COMMISSIONER PRESSOR, I WAS GONNA, UH, ASK, UM, MS. FAIRMAN, UM, HAVE Y'ALL DONE ANY ASBUILT DRAWINGS OF THE STRUCTURE? NO.
UM, BUT IS, IS THAT PART OF THE STIPULATION? UH, THE UDC SECTION, UH, 35 6 1 4 REQUIRES, UH, SOMEWHAT OF A HALS LEVEL DOCUMENTATION.
UH, IF THE COMMISSION WOULD WANT FULL DOCUMENTS, UH, AT LEAST ELEVATIONS ON A PLAN DEVELOPED, UH, THAT MAY BETTER INFORM THE EXACT AMOUNT OF SIDING AND OTHER MATERIALS THAT COULD BE SALVAGED IF THERE IS AN ARCHITECTURAL SET TO WORK OFF OF.
SO, UH, THAT COULD ALSO BE STIPULATED.
YES, I WOULD LIKE TO, IF THE, UM, PERSON MAKING A MOTION WOULD ADD THAT STIPULATION TO, UH, DOCUMENT WITHDRAWINGS WOULD PAY WITH THAT MS. I JUST FOR SOMETIME THAT SOME PO IMPOSING AND PUTTING EXTRA REQUIREMENTS THAT COST, UH, I JUST, I JUST FEEL LIKE THE WORDS PROVIDE DOCUMENTATION OF THE STRUCTURES, STRUCTURES, ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS IS STILL ENOUGH, BUT I DON'T WANNA HAVE TO DICTATE IF THEY HAVE TO BE ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS.
UH, WELL, UM, I I MAYBE I COULD ADD THIS, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS AND I'LL, SORRY, SCROLL TO A PICTURE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED WOULD HAVE BEEN THE PRESERVATION OR THE SALVAGING OF THE ENTIRE COLUMN ASSEMBLY.
UM, AND SO, UH, IF THESE ARE EVER REUSED, WHEN THEY'RE SALVAGED, IF THEY'RE REUSED ON A HISTORIC STRUCTURE WHERE THOSE COLUMNS WOULD'VE BEEN ARCHITECTURALLY APPROPRIATE, UH, HAVING DIMENSION MEASURED DRAWINGS WOULD BE HELPFUL, UH, JUST FOR WHOEVER'S REASSEMBLING THEM TO KNOW, UM, ANGLE AND DIMENSION AND HEIGHT.
UH, SO, UH, JUST, YOU KNOW, IN THE CASE OF SALVAGE ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS MAY BE HELPFUL, AT LEAST FOR PORTIONS OF THE FACADE.
SEND THAT JUST TO KEEP IT TO THE FRONT OF THE FACADE, IF THAT'S OKAY.
COMMISSIONER FE, I WOULD SAY, UH, AT LEAST BACK, UH, SEVERAL FEET FROM THE, THE, THE PORCH AS YOU GO DOWN THE SIDE.
SO MAYBE TO THOSE FIRST TWO WINDOWS ON THE, ON THIS SIDE, DO DOCUMENT FROM THOSE WINDOWS FORWARD.
IS THAT, SHOULD YOU WORKS STATE THE MOTION OR IS THAT APPEAL? SECOND CONCURS.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? MAYOR, HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE.
ITEM NUMBER 15, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 15 HDRC CASE NUMBER 2024 DASH 2 3 3 2 0 3 SOUTH ALAMO 1203 SOUTH ALAMO.
THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR APPROVAL TO ONE.
INSTALL AN APPROXIMATELY 41 SQUARE FOOT WALL-MOUNTED SIGN ON THE FRONT FACADE AND TWO REFACE THE EXISTING POLE SIGN TO FEATURE A 12 SQUARE FOOT SIGN.
ITEMS ONE AND TWO STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL BASED ON FINDINGS A THROUGH C WITH THE FOLLOWING STIPULATIONS.
ONE THAT THE APPLICANT REDUCES THE SIZE OF THE WALL-MOUNTED SIGN.
SO THE OVERALL SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR SIGNAGE DOES NOT EXCEED 50 SQUARE FEET BASED ON FINDING B.
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DOCUMENTS MUST BE SUBMITTED TO STAFF FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF A COA AND TWO, THAT THE POLL SIGN IS NOT INTERNALLY ILLUMINATED AND THAT THE APPLICANT IMPROVES THE LEGIBILITY OF THE SIGN BY MODIFYING THE ORIENTATION OF THE LETTERING AND REDUCING THE NUMBER OF COLORS ON THE SIGNAGE.BASED ON FINDING C THE APPLICANT IS REQUIRED TO SUBMIT UPDATED GRAPHICS AND LIGHTING SPECIFICATIONS FOR THE POLE SIGN TO STAFF FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF A COA AND THE APPLICANT, MARTINE VARGAS IS WITH, WITH US IN PERSON.
MARTINE, YOU MAY APPROACH THE PODIUM, YOU CAN INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND DISCUSS YOUR HI MARTIN.
UM, SO OUR IDEA WAS TO ADD THE NEON SIGN TO THE BUILDING.
UM, I AM THE APPLICANT AND, UM, WE LEASED OUT THIS PROPERTY TO, UH, MAKE IT A RESTAURANT AND MY IDEA WAS TO PUT A NEON SIGN IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, UH, TO BEGIN WITH.
HOWEVER, THERE IS THAT PYLON SIGN THAT'S NO ONE, NO ONE HAS EVER DONE ANYTHING WITH IT.
UM, SO WE FIGURED WE CAN REFACE IT JUST TO REMOVE IT FROM BEING AN EYESORE.
HOWEVER, IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN I CAN LEAVE IT AS IS IF IT'S GONNA IMPEDE ON MY SQUARE FOOTAGE FROM MY NEON SIGN ON THE BUILDING.
SO OTHER THAN THAT, I CAN CHANGE THE ORIENTATION OF THE LETTERING IF IT HELPS.
UM, AS FAR AS THE COLORS THAT, THOSE ARE THE COLORS OF MY LOGO.
WE HAVE THREE LOCATIONS AND I, I DID CHANGE THE FONT ON THE BUILDING JUST TO APPEASE THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, BUT AS FAR AS THE ONE ON THE, ON THE PYLON, I DON'T, I CAN CHANGE IT, CHANGE THE ORIENTATION, BUT I, I BELIEVE THE COLORS SHOULD STAY JUST 'CAUSE IF, UM, UM, IF THEY SEE 'EM, THEY KNOW IT'S US.
WE HAVE A PROPERTY ON SOUTH PRESA AND WE'VE BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE, SO WE, WE LIKE TO GET THOSE CUSTOMERS BACK ONCE WE MOVE.
AND THERE IS ONE LETTER IN THE FOLDER FROM THE KING WILLIAM ASSOCIATION.
QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
SO TOTALS, SQUARE FOOTAGE IS 53, CORRECT? DOES THIS 41 PLUS 12.
SO IF YOU WERE ASKING REDUCE THREE SQUARE FEET, CORRECT? CORRECT.
BUT IT'S NOT SO MUCH TO DECIDE ABOUT THE ON THE POLES, CORRECT? YES.
WELL, I APPLIED MAYBE TWO MONTHS AGO WITH OUR ORIGINAL LOGO, WHICH IS THE OLD ENGLISH FONT, AND THEY TOLD ME THAT MAYBE I SHOULD RESUBMIT WITH SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAT'S GONNA GO WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS WHY WE WENT WITH NEON.
UM, BUT LIKE I SAID, THE, THE LON SIGN IS TAKEN INTO MY SQUARE FOOTAGE FROM MY F FROM MY BUILDING, UH, SIGN.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING PROBLEM.
THERE'S NO PROBLEM WITH THE WALL, RIGHT? OR THE PILOT? THE POLE SIGN? YES.
THE, WELL THE PYLON IS TAKING SOME OF MY SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR ME BEING ABLE TO PUT THAT ONE, BUT NO MORE THAN SQUARE FOOTAGE.
THERE'S ALSO AN ISSUE WITH THE, UH, LIGHTING RIGHT ON THE PYLON? YES.
SO THERE'S NOT AN OPTION TO NOT BE INTERNALLY ILLUMINATED.
'CAUSE YOU'RE JUST RESURFACING BEFORE, THAT'S JUST WHAT WAS THERE BEFORE.
SO CAN WE REALLY ASK HIM, SO IF HE IS JUST RESURFACING THEN WE JUST ASK NOT TO TURN ON THE LIGHTS, CORRECT? YES.
SO IT SHOULDN'T BE INTERNALLY ILLUMINATED, IT CAN BE INDIRECTLY ILLUMINATED.
SO THERE CAN BE A LIGHT PROJECTING ONTO THE SIGN.
SO WE JUST DON'T WANT ANY LIGHT BULBS IN WHAT'S EXISTING ALREADY IN INSIDE THE CABINET.
DO YOU, DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? I DO.
UM, THEY'RE ALREADY IN THERE THOUGH.
I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO REMOVE THEM? IS THAT WHAT THE JUST REMOVE THEM OR JUST TAKE 'EM OFF OR DON'T TURN 'EM ON.
SO I CAN REPHRASE IT THE WAY IT IS.
JUST DON'T TURN IT, TURN ON THE SIGN AND THEN THE OTHER ATION CUT AND ALSO JUST DICTATING.
WHEN I FIRST APPLIED FOR THE, EVEN FOR THE EXTERIOR OF THE COLOR, WHEN I APPLIED TO REPAINT THE BUILDING, THEY DID TELL ME THAT THEY WOULD APPROVE THE, UM, THE PROJECT ITSELF, BUT THEY DON'T DICTATE COLORS.
SO I GUESS I'M ASKING WITH THE SIGN AS WELL.
I'M ASKING THE STAFF WHAT, WHAT, WHAT ARE WE DOING? IS IT BECAUSE YOU NORMALLY SAY YOU WANT LIGHT CODE? YEAH, THERE'S, THERE'S LANGUAGE IN THE CODE THAT SPEAKS TO LEGIBILITY AND SO I, I THINK IT MAY, MAYBE IT'S JUST HOW THIS IS RENDERED.
IT'S FOR THE VERTICAL SIGN IT, WE JUST THINK IT'S HARD TO READ
AND SO MAYBE SIMPLIFICATION OF THE FONT OR MAYBE GREATER CONTRAST BETWEEN THE BACKGROUND AND THE, THE GREEN IN PARTICULAR.
I CAN CHANGE ORIENTATION IF THAT'LL HELP.
I THINK ONCE I CHANGE ORIENTATION THOUGH, IT'S JUST GONNA BECOME SMALLER.
SO IF NOBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS ONTO THE MOTION, I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
THE SHAPE OF THE SIGN THAT YOU'RE REFACING, IS THAT EXACTLY THE SAME
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SHAPE AND THE SAME THAT IS, YES.I AM JUST USING THE SIGN THAT'S THERE, YES.
SO, UM, WITH THE, UM, THE SIGN THAT'S ALREADY, I MEAN THAT THE POLE IS ALREADY THERE WITH THE LETTERING THAT'S THERE VERSUS THE LETTER THAT ON THE BUILDING.
UM, WHY, WHY NOT MAKE THE LETTERS THE SAME AS ON THE BUILDING AS AS OPPOSED ON THE SIGN IT DIDN'T GET APPROVED WHEN I SUBMITTED WITH OLD ENGLISH FONT.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO, SO YOU'RE OKAY WITH THE OLD ENGLISH FONT ON ONE, BUT THEN THE OTHER? WELL, IT'S JUST A LITTLE, I'M JUST KEEPING A LITTLE BIT OF MY LOGO ON THE PYLON SO THAT THEY CAN STILL FAMILIARIZE THE RESTAURANT WITH THE SAME, I WOULD REALLY LIKE OWN ENGLISH ON THE BUILDING, BUT THAT WASN'T, SO IF I CAN JUST HAVE IT A, A SMALL ONE ON THE ACTUAL PYLON SIGN COMMISSIONER GROUP.
DID THIS GO THROUGH STUFF, DIDN'T GET APPROVED, WAS IT HERE? I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE REFERENCING THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS COMMENTS.
HAVE YOU REVIEWED IT WITH THEM PREVIOUSLY? YES, WHEN I APPLIED WELL WITH THE OHP IS IT OR? YEAH.
SO IT GOT, IT GOT DENIED ONLY.
I ONLY GOT APPROVED FOR, UM, THE PAINTING, THE BUILDING, ADDING STRING LIGHTS AND FIXING SOME ROTTED WOOD THAT WAS DECAYING ON THE RAILING, BUT NOT THE SIGN.
SO TO CLARIFY, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE REFERENCING THE ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL FOR MODIFICATIONS TO THE BUILDING AND THEN THE REQUEST FOR SIGNAGE HAD TO COME TO HDRC AS OPPOSED TO RECEIVING ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL.
SO, SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THERE WASN'T A PREVIOUS STAFF DENIAL OR HDRC DENIAL FOR THE SIGNAGE.
SO THE SIGNAGE, IT HAS COME TO THE COMMISSION.
CAN I ASK HIM QUESTIONS AGAIN, MR. CHAIR? I HAVE A QUESTION.
UH, SO YOU WOULD PREFER TO USE YOUR, YOUR SAME SCRIPT, THE OLD ENGLISH SCRIPT ON YOUR BUILDING? CORRECT.
IF YOU WERE ALLOWED TO DO THAT, HOW WOULD YOU ILLUMINATE THAT? BECAUSE I DON'T THINK YOU COULD DO THAT SCRIPT OUT.
THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE ISSUE THE FIRST TIME.
IT WAS GONNA BE A CABINET, BUT IT WAS GONNA BE REVERSE LIT RATHER THAN INTERNET LIT.
BUT WHEN WE DID SUBMIT THAT IT WAS GONNA PROJECT MORE LIGHTING THAT WE WANTED FOR THE OTHER BUILDING.
SO WE FELT THAT NEON WAS PROPER, THE PROPER, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THE OLD ENGLISH ON THE BUILDING, BUT I'M, I'M ALREADY PAST THAT ONE.
'CAUSE THERE, UH, UM, IT'D BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT OTHER LIGHTING OPTIONS IT WOULD BE TO, UH, GET YOU YOUR OLD ENGLISH SCRIPT.
WELL, IT WAS THE
SO WE HAVE OTHER BUILDINGS AND WHEN WE, EVEN FOR LIKE OUR MENUS, IT DOESN'T ILLUMINATE AS MUCH OR IF ANY, SO WE DO WANT PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE SIGN WHEN THEY DRIVE BY.
SO I THINK ON A LOWER TONE WOULD BE THE NEON.
WELL, I WAS GONNA ASK THAT KIND OF, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME BACK KNOWING THAT MAYBE HERE WE CAN DISCUSS AN OPTION WITH THE OLD ENGLISH FONT AND EXTERNAL ILLUMINATION IN RECLAMATION? SO WE LIKE THE OLD ENGLISH FONT, IT'S OUR LOGO.
UM, HOWEVER, WE ARE WORKING ON MAYBE MAKING OUR RESTAURANT MORE HIGHER END TYPE DEAL.
SO WE FEEL THAT MOVING TO NEON IS ONE STEP CLOSER TO THAT TO WHERE KIND OF REMOVING THE OLD ENGLISH, WE LIKE IT, IT WORKS IN SOME AREAS AND IT DOESN'T IN OTHERS.
SO, SO THEN I'LL DO, I APPRECIATE IT.
SO, SO THAT BEING SAID, SO IF YOU WANNA MOVE TO MORE OF THE NEON AND SO THEN YOU'RE ACTUALLY OKAY WITH THE, THE STANDING SIGN TO CHANGE THAT, UM, LETTER IN THERE AS WELL AS VERSUS THE, BECAUSE TO HAVE BOTH OF 'EM, I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S YOUR RESTAURANT.
BUT IT, TO ME IT JUST LOOKS KIND OF TO KEEP IT, TO KEEP THE, WELL KEEPING THE, THE ONE ON THE PIPELINE IS MORE LIKE A, JUST STILL NOT LOSING OUR LOGO COMPLETELY, STILL HANGING ONTO IT, BUT JUST SHOWING THAT THERE'S A CHANGE TO A DIFFERENT TYPE OF CLIENTELE ALSO.
COMMISSIONER GROUP, I'LL DO MOTION IF THAT'S OKAY.
SO I'M GONNA DO A MOTION TO APPROVE THE WALL MONITOR SIGN, UM, AS SUBMITTED AND THE POLE SIGN SIZE, I MEAN KEEPING THE SAME SIZE EXTERNALLY ILLUMINATE NOT, OR WE WANNA SAY NOT INTERNALLY ILLUMINATED, THEN YOU FIGURE OUT HOW TO WANNA ILLUMINATE IT.
AND THEN, UM, I MEAN I GUESS I WOULD JUST ESTIMATE IT THERE A SECOND.
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THIS A LITTLE BIT.I THINK 53 SQUARE FEET IS FINE AND ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A SIGN THAT'S ALREADY EXISTING AND, AND THE NEON, I MEAN, IT DOES CREATE SQUARE FOOTAGE PRETTY, I THINK IT'S ALSO MORE TRANSPARENT.
SO YOU'RE NOT REALLY CREATING A HUGE CORRECT, YOU KNOW, 41 SQUARE FOOT SIGN.
UM, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU DO CONSIDER SOME OF THE COMMENTS ON THE FONT, ON THE POLE SIGN AND MAYBE RETURNING IT AROUND.
I DO BELIEVE THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CANNOT, WE SHOULDN'T BE DICTATING COLORS OR FONTS.
I KNOW WHAT YOU GET WITH LIKE WHERE YOUR LOGO AND PEOPLE WANNA RECOGNIZE, BUT IF YOU WANNA MOVE TO SOMETHING, YOU MAKE THIS YOUR CLASSY LOCATION AND LET THE OTHER RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT.
PEOPLE ARE GONNA GPS THAT THEY'RE NOT GONNA STOP.
OH, THERE'S, THERE'S THE, YOU KNOW, SO I MEAN, I WOULD ALSO JUST HEAR THOSE COMMENTS AND I WOULD SAY KEEP IT THE SAME.
YOU'RE IN A CLASSY NEIGHBORHOOD.
I MEAN, LIKE, KEEP IT THE SAME, BUT I WOULD, SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS.
AND JUST NOT EXTERNALLY, JUST NOT INTERNALLY ILLUMINATE.
AS FAR AS THE PYLON SIGN, I DON'T EVEN NEED IT TO HAVE LIGHT.
I JUST WANT IT KIND OF TO BE THERE.
I MEAN, YOU, IF YOU SEE IT DURING THE DAY, IT'S FINE.
IF AT NIGHT, I, I THINK, UM, SO AGAIN, THIS IS YOUR BUSINESS, BUT I THINK WHAT SHE'S CLEARLY SAYING IS THAT PRETTY MUCH ECHOING WHAT I WAS MENTIONING IS ABOUT KEEPING THE FONT THE SAME, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT, IT LOOKS A LITTLE WEIRD, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GOT THE OLD ENGLISH AND THEN THE NEON THERE.
SO, UM, AND LIKE I SAID, IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GET A MORE UPSCALE CLIENTELE, MORE
I MEAN, YOUR NAME IS YOUR NAME, SO, UM, BUT AGAIN, CAN'T DICTATE THAT
UM, ANY OTHER FURTHER DISCUSSION? MAYOR, HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE.
ITEM 16, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 16, HDRC CASE NUMBER 2024 DASH 2 47 1 28 ADAMS. THE APPLICANT REQUESTS A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR APPROVAL TO ENCLOSE A SECOND STORY REAR PORCH.
RECOMMENDATION STAFF DOES NOT RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST TO ENCLOSE THE REAR SECOND STORY PORCH BASED ON FINDINGS A AND B.
SHOULD THE HDRC FIND ENCLOSING THE PORCH APPROPRIATE STAFF RECOMMENDS THE FOLLOWING STIPULATIONS.
ONE THAT THE PROPOSED DESIGN RETAINS THE EXISTING EXPOSED RAFTER TAILS, AND TWO, THAT THE APPLICANT PROPOSES A WINDOW PRODUCT THAT CONFORMS TO STANDARD SPECIFICATIONS FOR WINDOWS AND ADDITIONS AND NEW CONSTRUCTION AS NOTED IN FINDING C.
AND THE APPLICANT, NATE MANFRED, IS WITH US VIRTUALLY.
AND THERE IS ONE LETTER IN YOUR PACKET FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
NATE, ARE YOU THERE? YOU MIGHT NEED TO UNMUTE STILL.
EVERYBODY, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.
UH, I'M NATE MANN FOR THE FRENCH OF MICHIGAN.
UM, FOR THIS PROJECT WE WERE, UM, ASKED BY THE CLIENT TO ENCLOSE A REAR PORCH, UH, TO BECOME PART OF THEIR CONDITIONED INTERNAL RESIDENTIAL HOUSE SPACE.
UH, THEY HAD HOPED TO DO THIS BECAUSE THEY HAVE GRANDCHILDREN WHO COME TO VISIT, UH, WITH FAMILY AND I GUESS THEIR YOUNG GROWING FAMILY, UH, WITH THEIR CHIL WITH THEIR CHILDREN.
SO THEY WANTED TO HAVE ROOM, UM, INTI INSIDE THE HOUSE FOR THE GRANDCHILDREN TO HAVE A SLEEPING SPACE.
SO OUR DESIGN APPROACH WAS TO ENCLOSE THAT PORCH UTILIZING THE SAME WOOD MATERIALS, TRYING TO MAINTAIN ALL AS MANY OF THE EXISTING DETAILS AS POSSIBLE.
UH, AND THEN ALSO THE, THE CLIENT ASKED FOR AS MANY WINDOWS AS POSSIBLE AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THAT NEW SPACE THAT WAS BEING CREATED.
I, IS THAT IT SIR? YEAH, THAT, SO THAT'S ABOUT THE CRUX OF THE EXPLANATION OF THE DESIGN.
QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? UH, YES, I HAVE A QUESTION.
UM, DID YOU EXPLORE IN YOUR DESIGN KEEPING THE EXISTING COLUMNS OF THE PORCH? UH, POSSIBLY CHANGING OUT THE, FROM THE PICKET RAIL TO A, UH, MAYBE A VERTICAL BOARD RAIL, UH, AND
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THEN CHANGING THE TO A, A SIDING UP ABOVE SO THAT IT READS SO THAT THE INFILL READ, YOU CAN STILL READ THE PORCH AS OPPOSED TO TOTALLY OBLITERATING THE, THE DETAILING THAT THAT IS ON THERE NOW, UH, MR. FETZER? YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ASKING THAT.I, AND WE HAVE, I HAVE SINCE MET WITH THE CLIENTS DISCUSSING SOME OF THE COMMENTS FROM THE, UH, OHP STAFF.
AND ONE THING I DID APPROACH THEM WITH WAS ARTICULATING THOSE COLUMNS, UH, PARTICULARLY ALSO REFERENCING SOME DETAIL FOR THE BALESTRA.
AND I ALSO SPOKE TO THE CLIENTS ABOUT FINISHES, SO THEY WOULD AGREE TO NOT NECESSARILY SHEET HARD SHEET ROCK THAT CEILING IN THERE.
AND THE OTHER POINT THAT THEY AGREED TO WAS NOT SHEET ROCKING THE INTERIOR WALLS OF THAT SPACE.
SO IF WE EVER NEEDED TO RETURN IT BACK TO AN EXTERIOR PORCH, WE COULD ESSENTIALLY DO THAT WITHOUT HAVING TO DO A LOT OF INTERVENTION OR RIPPING SHEET ROCK OFF OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
THEY, THEY WERE VERY AMENABLE TO THOSE KIND OF IDEAS AS AN ALTERNATE DESIGN TO WHAT WE'VE PRESENTED.
SO THEY WERE AMENABLE TO, UH, EXPRESSING THE COLUMNS AND SOME SORT OF, UM, MODIFICATION TO THE RAILING? YES, YES.
SOME KIND OF SIDING WHERE WE COULD, WE COULD DO A, A VERTICAL SIDING KIND OF AT THAT BALLAST ROD RAILING, YOU KNOW, HAVE THAT DETAIL ALMOST LIKE A WATER TABLE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, CHANGE THE SIDING FROM BEING HORIZONTAL TO BEING VERTICAL.
AND THEN OUR, AND THEN WE WOULD ALSO MAINTAIN ALL OF THE DETAILS UP, KIND OF THAT SCALLOP DETAIL UP ALONG THE FASCIA OF THE, THE, UH, THE ROOF THERE AND AS IN ONE OF STAFF'S STIPULATIONS, KEEPING THE RAFTER TAILS EXPOSED, CORRECT? YEAH.
WE, AND AGAIN, WE WOULD EVEN GO SO FAR AS TO NOT PUT A HARD CEILING INSIDE THAT.
SO THE RAFTER TAILS, WE HAD ALWAYS MEANT FOR THOSE TO BE EXPOSED ON THE EXTERIOR, BUT EVEN ON THE INTERIOR WE COULD, WE COULD GO AHEAD AND NOT PUT A HARD CEILING IN THERE AGAIN.
SO IF ANYBODY WANTED TO RETURN IT BACK TO ITS NATURAL, YOU KNOW, ORIGINAL FORM, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO A LOT OF DEMOLITION WORK.
SO, UM, IF YOUR CLIENT IS OPEN TO EXPRESSING THOSE, UM, ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES, UM, CAN WE GUESS THAT THE INFILL PANELS WILL SIT, THE FACE OF THE INFILL PANEL WILL SIT BEHIND, UM, AND NOT FLUSH WITH THE FACE OF THE COLUMNS, CORRECT? CORRECT.
THAT IS, THAT WOULD BE THE INTENT.
AND I HAVE, I HAVE SINCE FOR THE CLIENT'S REVIEW DRAWN SOMETHING UP AND THEY'VE AGREED TO IT.
I JUST DIDN'T HAVE TIME, YOU KNOW, TO GET IT INTO THE QUEUE HERE, UH, TODAY, SO YEAH.
BUT, BUT YEAH, THE, THOSE COLUMNS WOULD BE A COUPLE INCHES PROUD OF THE WALL INFILL PIECE.
I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, MR. CHAIR.
SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE NOT GONNA MODIFY ANYTHING ON THE EXISTING EXTERIOR WALL BEFORE COMING OUT? I, I, YEAH, I SUPPOSE WE DON'T REALLY HAVE TO, WE, WE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE TO I GUESS MODIFY THE BAER, THE RAILING.
I'M TALKING ABOUT THE CURRENTLY THE ONE THAT THE EXTERIOR WALL NOT WHERE THE POLES ARE MORE INSIDE THE, YEAH, I'M SORRY.
THE EXTERIOR WALLS, EVEN THE WINDOWS WILL REMAIN, THE EXISTING DOOR WILL REMAIN, THE EXISTING WOOD SIDING WILL REMAIN, THE OWNERS ACTUALLY EVEN WANT TO DO WOOD SIDING ON THE INTERIOR PHASES OF THE TWO CURRENTLY OPEN WALLS.
SO WHEN YOU STEP INTO THAT SPACE, IT WILL, EVERYTHING THAT'S EXISTING REMAIN.
AND I, IT SOUNDS LIKE, IT SOUNDS LIKE, BUT THERE'S NO VENTILATION, YOU'RE NOT GONNA PUT AC THERE.
I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF, WELL, THERE, THERE WILL BE A, THEY WILL PUT A MINI SPLIT SYSTEM IN THERE UP, UP IN THE CORNER, UP ABOVE THE WINDOW.
WE'VE MADE SURE THAT SOMETHING CAN FIT UP THERE.
THEY DON'T NEED A BIG UNIT FOR THAT ROOM.
SO THERE WILL BE SOMETHING INSIDE THERE TO PROVIDE COOLING TO THAT SPACE.
AND THEN I, I'M, I YOU OKAY WITH THE STIPULATION ABOUT THE WINDOWS? YEAH, OF COURSE, OF COURSE.
WE, WE HAD, HAD USED THOSE WINDOWS AT THE NEIGHBOR DIRECTLY NEXT DOOR BACK IN 2020 WHEN WE DID A WINDOW REPLACEMENT PROJECT.
THOSE WINDOWS WERE APPROVED SO WE JUST, YOU KNOW, ASSUMED WE WOULD USE THOSE 'CAUSE THEY'RE FULL WOOD WINDOWS.
BUT IT LOOKS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE MAIN CONCERN WAS THE FACT THAT THE DIVIDED LIGHTS AREN'T TRUE DIVIDED LIGHTS.
SO WE WILL GLADLY LOOK FOR ANOTHER WINDOW PRODUCT THAT WILL MEET THE STIPULATIONS.
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I'LL MAKE A MOTION.OKAY, SIR, IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
UM, MOTION TO APPROVE IN CLOSING THE, UH, SECOND FLOOR PORCH, UM, WITH THE STIPULATIONS THAT THE EXISTING ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS SUCH AS RAFTER, TAILS, COLUMNS, UH, SOME SORT OF INDICATION OF A, A RAILING, UM, ARE MAINTAINED AND THAT, UH, THE STIPULATION ABOUT THE WINDOWS AS UH, AND THEN UH, REVISED DRAWINGS BE SUBMITTED TO STAFF FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I DO HAVE A COMMENT.
I ACTUALLY WILL NOT SUPPORT THE MOTION.
WE HAD A CASE LONG AGO, BUT IT WAS SOMEBODY WHO ENCLOSED, I KNOW IT WAS IN THE FRONT.
UM, IT'S ACTUALLY VISIBLE, I GUESS FROM FORK STREET OR, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I THINK, I'M ASSUMING IT'S SO, IT IT, THAT'S WHAT'S FIRST, UH, COMING TO MIND.
AND THEN I KNOW THERE'S, YOU KNOW, I JUST, THERE'S A LOT OF DUE DILIGENCE AND THINGS BEING SAID, BUT WE HAVEN'T REALLY SEEN IN DRAWINGS ABOUT THE SIDING AND ABOUT HOW TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE REVERSIBLE.
AND I THINK WE, WE MADE THE PREVIOUS APPLICANT GO THROUGH A LOT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS REVERSIBLE.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I JUST WE'RE LOSING THAT DOOR, THE TWO WINDOWS.
I THINK WE ASKED THE PREVIOUS APPLICANT TO REPLICATE WHAT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL EXTERIOR WALL, MOVING IT OUT.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE DOING A DUE DILIGENCE IN THIS PROPERTY, SO I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THAT.
MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? CASTILLO NAY SENO AYE RA AYE GROUP NAY CERVANTES.
DO WE NEED ANOTHER MOTION? YES, I'LL TRY ANOTHER MOTION.
CONCEPTUAL APPROVAL WITH ALL THE PREVIOUS STIPULATIONS.
IS THERE A SECOND? SO THAT THE DRAWINGS WOULD COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR, UH, FINAL REVIEW? I'LL SECOND MOVED AND SECOND FURTHER DISCUSSION.
YEAH, I HAVE TO ECHO ONE OF MY, MY FELLOW COMMISSIONER'S, UH, COMMENTS AND THE VISIBILITY FROM THE STREET AND THE PERMANENCE OF IT.
HOW EASILY, HOW EASILY IS IT UNDONE? OH, HE'S NOT HERE.
SO THAT, THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS.
NO LOOKING FURTHER DISCUSSION.
ITEM 17, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 17 HDRC CASE 2024 DASH 2 26 1 45 GREEN LAWN.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR APPROVAL TO INSTALL TWO DORMERS ON THE SOUTH FACING FRONT ELEVATION.
ROOF FORM STAFF DOES NOT RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE INSTALLATION OF TWO DORMERS ON THE FRONT FACADE BASED ON FINDING B.
AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS, UM, JENNIFER GARZA AND GREG RES ARE ATTENDING IN PERSON.
UM, AS A QUICK CASE NOTE, THERE ARE NO LETTERS IN THE FOLDER, NO VOICEMAILS AND NO IN-PERSON SPEAKERS.
THIS IS MY FATHER GREG TORRES AND UH, I'M JENNIFER GONZALEZ.
WE RESIDE THERE AT THE PROPERTY.
MA'AM, WE RESIDE THERE AT THE PROPERTY AND THE HOUSE HAS BEEN IN OUR FAMILY FOR OVER 60 YEARS, SO WE'RE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING, UH, NO DEMOLITION, JUST SOMETHING TO ADD ON, NOT REMOVING ANYTHING THAT'S PART OF THE MAIN STRUCTURE AND KEEPING IT THE CHARACTERISTICS
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IN THE STREET.I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE STREET, BUT 1 45 GREEN LINE IS ONE LONG BLOCK.
UM, I'LL LET HIM SPEAK THOUGH.
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS PUT A COUPLE OF DORMERS, I GUESS THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE CAUGHT ON THE ROOF.
AND UM, IN THE PAST WE WANTED TO PUT UP A FENCE.
SO WE ASKED THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND THEY SAID, WELL, IS IT THIS KIND OF FENCE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD? AND THERE WERE FOUR OR FIVE HOUSES LIKE THAT.
SO WE SHOWED PICTURES AND THEN Y'ALL APPROVED IT AND UM, WE'RE FIXING UP THE HOUSE NOW, PAINTING IT AND STUFF, KEEPING IT THE WAY IT IS, BUT WE'D LIKE TO PUT A COUPLE OF DORMERS.
UM, AND THE THING IS, THERE'S LIKE FOUR OR FIVE HOUSES ON THAT BLOCK WITH DORMERS.
SO WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, UM, MY GRANDDAUGHTER ASKED GRANDPA, LET'S PUT A, A WINDOW UP THERE.
YOU KNOW, SHE GOES UP IN THE ATTIC SOMETIMES AND STUFF AND I GOT A PICTURE OF UH, THE ONES THAT ARE UP THERE AND THEN ONES THAT I WOULD LIKE TO PUT UP THERE.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR.
WE WOULD LIKE TO DO SOMETHING THAT WILL BE, SHE READS THE BIBLE DAILY, SHE READS HER READING.
SHE WANTS TO SIT THERE AND HAVE SOMEWHERE TO SIT AND READ AND ALSO LOOK OUTSIDE.
AND SHE SEES THE OTHER HOUSES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THAT AND THEY'VE RECENTLY BEEN ADDED ON.
UM, SO WE THOUGHT WE COULD COME TO Y'ALL GET SOME KIND OF APPROVAL FROM Y'ALL THAT WILL KEEP THE HOUSE HISTORIC, BUT ALSO BE SOMETHING THAT'S SATISFACTORY TO YOU AND TO US.
UM, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TO GET THE APPROVAL TO DO THAT.
UM, QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? YEAH, JUST REAL QUICK.
SO, UH, UH, APPROXIMATELY HOW MUCH USABLE SPACE DO YOU HAVE THERE? SO YOU DO USE THAT SPACE SO YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS USE THAT SPACE TO READ, RELAX, THAT SORT OF THING.
HOW, HOW MUCH SPACE IS UP THERE? IT'S, IT'S AN ATTIC.
IT'S HOW MUCH SPACE IS UP THERE.
HOW MANY SQUARE FEET? MAYBE 200.
APPLICANT IS SHOWING SEVERAL PROPERTIES, UM, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH DORMERS, I GUESS THREE, FOUR.
WE'VE PROVIDED PICTURES OF A FEW HOUSES ON THE SAME STREET.
WELL, IT'S ONE LONG BLOCK WITH THEM.
SO STAFF IS SAYING THE REASONS THAT THEY DON'T RECOMMEND IS BECAUSE THIS ISN'T FOUND.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT TO ME? YEAH, SO THIS, THE HOUSES THAT ARE PRESENTED IN THE CASE FILE HAVE HAD THOSE, UM, DORMERS SINCE AT LEAST 2011 OR BEFORE THAT.
SO BEFORE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
ADDITIONALLY, THERE ARE ONLY FIVE HOUSES ON THE ENTIRE STREET THAT HAVE DORMERS.
THE REST OF THE HOUSES DO NOT HAVE DORM DORMERS.
THERE'S ONLY, THIS IS NOT 20 HOUSES ON THE STREET, RIGHT? THERE'S ABOUT 20 HOUSES ON THE STREET.
SO THAT WOULD BE A FOURTH OF THE HOUSES THAT HAVE THEM.
I WAS GONNA SAY, BUT IT'S JUST TO CLARIFY THAT THIS STREET DOES NOT HAVE THAT MANY HOUSES.
IT'S ONE STREET THAT'S ONE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
IT'S, I LOVE IT BECAUSE IT'S LIKE ACREAGE AND YOU HAVE BIG LAND.
AND IT'S, IT'S RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF INSIDE FOUR 10, WHICH IS AMAZING.
WE WOULD DO NOTHING THAT WOULD TAKE AWAY FROM THE HOUSE, JUST LIKE THE FENCES.
THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, AND UM, WE DIDN'T WANT TO GO WAY OUT OF CHARACTER.
SO THERE'S LIKE, UM, THREE OR FOUR THAT HAD THE FENCES, THE FENCE, THE WAY WE WANTED IT.
NO, THE ONLY THING IS THERE'S SOME, I THINK THERE'S SOME DETAILS MISSING ON THE CONSTRUCTION DETAILS AND MAYBE SOME OF THEM PROBABLY WON'T BE LIKE, UM, LIKE THE WINDOW MATERIAL AND, AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO I GUESS THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK MAYBE FOR STAFF.
WE WOULD NEED TO GET MATERIAL SPECIFICATIONS.
I WOULD LIKE TO DO A MOTION, MR. CHAIR.
SO, UM, YOU'RE USING THE ATTIC SPACE, RIGHT? AS AN OCCUPIABLE SPACE AND YOU WANT THE LIGHT IN THERE? YES MA'AM.
I, I DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE, THE, UM, DORMERS, THE GABLE DORMERS BEING ADDED BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW WITH THE STYLE, THE STYLE YOU HAVE, WOULD THEY HAVE BEEN GABLE DORMERS? WOULD THEY HAVE BEEN SHED DORMERS? WE DON'T KNOW.
UM, SO I'M WONDERING, WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN, IN THINKING ABOUT ANOTHER WAY TO GET LIGHT INTO THAT SPACE AND A VIEW OUT OF THAT SPACE? IF I DON'T KNOW ANY OTHER WAY.
I THINK IF YOU ALL WOULD DENY IT, THEN WE'RE JUST, UM, WELL THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PUTTING IT ON THE FRONT, WHICH IS A PRIORITY ELEVATION AND THEN PUTTING IT ON THE BACKSIDE.
I THOUGHT OF THAT TOO, BUT I, I THINK IT WOULD LOOK REAL PRETTY.
I MEAN, AGAIN, IF Y'ALL SAY NO, THEN WE JUST HAVE TO DO WHAT YOU SAY.
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I THINK THEY WOULD LOOK NICE AND THE NEIGHBORS HAVE 'EM AND UHHUH AND THE BACK WOULD SHOW THE HIGHWAY.IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE THE HIGHWAY.
AND FOR SAFETY REASONS, I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR HER TO BE SITTING IN THE FRONT FACING THE OTHER NEIGHBORS VERSUS THE BACK FACING THE HIGHWAY AND THE BACK.
I MEAN IF YOU PUT IT ON THE BACK YOU COULD HAVE MUCH MORE FLEXIBILITY.
SO THAT'S WHY I WAS WONDERING IF YOU MIGHT CONSIDER PUTTING IT ON THE BACKSIDE RATHER THAN ON THE FRONT.
IF THAT'S AN OPTION THEN WE'LL CONSIDER IT, BUT WE LIKE THE FRONT.
WE THOUGHT IT WOULD LOOK PRETTY AND WE OKAY, THANK YOU.
APPRECIATE NO OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION.
SO UNDER QUESTION, THE NEXT I WOULD CONCEPTUALLY APPROVE THE INSTALLATION OF TUMORS IN THE FRONT.
NO, I'M SORRY, WHAT DID YOU SAY? SORRY, HE LOST HEARING IN COVID.
I'LL ELABORATE ONCE WE GET A SECOND.
IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECOND FURTHER DISCUSSION.
SO I THINK THERE'S SOME JUSTIFICATION FROM YOU THAT YOU KNOW ABOUT THE DORMER.
I, UM, I IT IS KIND OF A VERY UNIQUE PROPERTY IN A VERY UNIQUE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE'S THE MISSING DETAILS EXACTLY OF THE CONSTRUCTION AND MAYBE ON THE WINDOWS WE DO HAVE SOME STIPULATIONS.
WE HAVE SOME STIPULATIONS ON HOW IT HAS TO BE.
SO THAT'S WHY I SAID CONCEPTUAL.
SO I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO COME BACK.
I ALSO FEEL LIKE FOR YOU TO COME BACK WITH, I THINK THIS ROOF HAS LESS SLOPE THAN SOME OF THESE EXAMPLES THAT YOU HAVE.
SO MAYBE IT COULD BE A LESS, A DORMER THAT'S MAYBE NOT THAT TALL.
THE ROOF IS LIKE A SIX 12 SLOPE.
IT'S, YEAH, BUT SOME OF THOSE DORMERS, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, IN YOUR EXAMPLE, IF YOU GO BACK TO SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, LIKE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S MORE LIKE THAT YES.
THAT'S PROBABLY MORE A VERTICAL DORMER THAN, AND THEN A HORIZONTAL AND MAYBE IT COULD BE ONE LONG ONE INSTEAD OF TWO.
SO THAT'S WHY I SAID CONCEPTUAL BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE OPTION TO COME BACK WITH.
AND, AND IF I, I WOULD HATE TO SAY A DRC 'CAUSE I'M NOT GONNA BE HERE, BUT IF YOU WANT TO HAVE THE, THE DISCUSSION WITH SOME OF THE INFORMAL DISCUSSION WITH SOME IDEAS IN THIS PICTURE, THAT'S THE KIND I WANTED TO DO.
YEAH, BUT YOUR SLOPE, YOUR ROOF IS LESS SLOPE THAN THAT.
SO I WOULD SAY MAYBE YOU SHOULD BE LOOKING AT SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT SMALLER SCALE AND MORE LONGER.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF CAN, CAN HELP WITH SOME EXAMPLES.
THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT ONES ON THE PROPERTY, OR EXCUSE ME, ON THE STREET.
I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO COPY PASTE OF ANY OF THEM.
I'M ASKING YOU TO, TO LOOK AT YOUR PROPERTY.
YOUR ROOF SLOPE COMPARED TO THOSE.
UM, AND THEN, I DON'T KNOW, STAFF IF YOU CAN HELP WITH AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS LIKE LESS TALL.
AND THEN I THINK STAFF SHOULD PROVIDE YOU WITH THE WINDOW MATERIAL SPECIFICATIONS THAT WE ASK FOR.
COMMISSION ES YEAH, I THINK I WOULD BE SUPPORTING, SUPPORTING THIS MOTION IN, IN, IN CONCEPT.
AND WHAT I WOULD ASK IS JUST REMEMBER YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA SLAP A DORMER UP THERE, RIGHT? YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DRAW IT OUT.
YOU HAVE TO SEE WHERE, WHERE THE, THE PITCH IS AND THE SLOPE IS OF YOUR ROOF AND SEE IF IT EVEN FITS, RIGHT? BECAUSE YES, IT'S NOT A DONE DEAL, IT'S JUST CONCEPTUALLY, BUT IT'S NOT, NOT DEFINITELY NOT A CUT AND PASTE, YOU KNOW, APPROACH IT TO YOUR HOUSE AND YOUR HOUSE ONLY, RIGHT? YES, I AGREE.
MM-HMM,
THE OPTION TO THE C WELL I DIDN'T WANNA PUT IT IN MOTION, THAT'S WHY I JUST SAID IT WAS ALWAYS AN OPTION, RIGHT? YEAH.
SHARE THAT WITH THE APPLICANT.
STAFF, YOU'LL HOOK 'EM UP WITH THE DRC DETAILS IF THEY, IF THEY WANT TO.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 19 HDRC CASE NUMBER 2024 DASH 2 16 19 0 2 WEST MISSILE TOW.
THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR APPROVAL TO CONSTRUCT A 672 SQUARE FOOT REAR ADDITION.
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THERE IS NOT SUFFICIENT DOCUMENTATION TO REVIEW FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS AT THIS TIME.STAFF RECOMMENDS CONCEPTUAL APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING STIPULATIONS.
ONE THAT THE APPLICANT SUBMIT FULLY DIMENSION DRAWINGS TO STAFF FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE AND CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.
THAT TWO, THAT THE APPLICANT INCORPORATE WINDOW OPENINGS ON THE EAST, WEST, AND SOUTH FACADES THAT FEATURE TRADITIONAL DIMENSIONS AND PROPORTIONS IS FOUND WITHIN THE MONTICELLO PARK, HISTORIC DISTRICT THREE, THAT THE APPLICANT INSTALL A DOOR ON THE EAST FACADE THAT CONFORMS TO THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE OF THE PROPERTY.
AND FOUR THAT THE APPLICANT MEET ALL SETBACK STANDARDS IS REQUIRED BY CITY ZONING AND OBTAIN A VARIANCE FROM THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT IF APPLICABLE.
THE PROPERTY OWNER, ISABELLE RODRIGUEZ IS HERE VIRTUALLY THERE IS ONE LETTER AND ONE VOICEMAIL FOR COMMISSIONER REVIEW.
AND MS. RODRIGUEZ, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT'S ON VIRTUALLY WITH YOU? NO SIR, IT'S JUST ME, MYSELF.
AND IF YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND WALK THE COMMISSIONERS, UH, THROUGH YOUR REQUEST AND I'LL UM, I'LL GO AHEAD AND GO THROUGH THE PHOTOS AND DOCUMENTS THAT YOU'VE PROVIDED.
MY NAME IS ISABELLE RODRIGUEZ AND I'M THE APPLICANT AND THE OWNER OF SINGLE FAMILY HOME LOCATED AT 1902 WEST MISTO AVENUE IN SAN ANTONIO IN THE MONTICELLO HISTORIC DISTRICT.
TODAY I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.
I'M PROPOSING A ROOM ADDITION OF 672 SQUARE FEET TO THE BACK OF MY HOME.
THE ADDITION WILL PROVIDE ADDITIONAL LIVING SPACE FOR MY ADULT DISABLED SON.
I BELIEVE THE PROPOSED PLANS THAT I'VE SUBMITTED ADHERE TO THE HISTORIC GUIDELINES.
I HAVE READ THROUGH YOUR RE RECOMMENDATIONS AND DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THAT.
UM, THE DESIGN AND THE ADDITION WILL MATCH THE EXISTING ARCHITECTURAL STYLE OF THE OTHER HOMES IN THE DISTRICT.
I WILL BE USING SIMILAR MATERIALS THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE ORIGINAL CONSTRUCTION.
UM, YEAH, SO I'M OPEN TO ANY FEEDBACKS OR, OR ANY RECOMMENDATIONS TO TRY TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
UM, AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR TODAY.
QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? I HAVE ONE QUESTION.
SO I THINK, UM, WHAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING IS THAT WE DO A CONCEPTUAL APPROVAL, UM, WITH SOME OF THOSE CHANGES THAT THEY'RE SUGGESTING.
ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? AND I, AND I DO BELIEVE THAT STAFF HAS A RIGHT THAT YOU GET A CONCEPTUAL APPROVAL AND THEN YOU CAN THEN GO AHEAD AND START GETTING UM, DRAWINGS.
SO, UH, I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE DRAWING.
SO I'VE REACHED OUT, I WANTED TO SEE WHAT ELSE WAS NEEDED FOR THE DRAWINGS BECAUSE I REACHED OUT TO A DRAFTER.
UM, AND THEY WANNA CHARGE ME LIKE 300, $3,000, WHICH IS A LITTLE EXCESSIVE FOR ME.
UM, SO JUST KIND OF WANNA GET CLARIFICATIONS.
WHAT, WHAT CHANGES DO YOU KNOW? CAN I MAKE THE CHANGES ON THESE EXISTING DRAWINGS OR DO I NEED TO REACH OUT TO A DRAFTER TO PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, THE LAYOUT, THE FINISHES, MATERIALS AND SEND BACK? OR IS THIS SUFFICIENT ENOUGH? DO YOU HAVE A CONTRACTOR WHO'S GONNA DO THIS WORK? I DO HAVE THE CONTRACTOR AND HE'S THE ONE THAT'S BEEN HELPING ME WITH THESE DRAWINGS.
OKAY, I'LL, I'LL, THIS IS NOT QUESTIONS.
SO, UM, YEAH, WE THINK YOU CAN PROBABLY GET THERE HOPEFULLY FOR, FOR NOT THAT MUCH.
BUT WHAT WE ARE LOOKING IS FOR DRAWINGS THAT ARE, ARE TWO SCALE AND REFLECTIVE OF IF REALLY THE PROPORTIONS AND, AND DIMENSIONALITY OF, OF WHAT'S PROPOSED.
AND SO AT A MINIMUM YOU'LL NEED TO KIND OF DO AS BUILT SO THAT YOU GET A GOOD, UM, SENSE OF, UH, SCALE OF YOUR EXISTING HOUSE AND THEN THE ADDITION WOULD BE DRAWN TO SCALE TO THAT.
AND SO WE COULD SEE HOW THE SIZE COMPARES, HOW THE ROOF FORMS CONNECT AND ACCURATELY WHERE THOSE WINDOWS AND DOORS FALL ON THE WALL PLANES.
OKAY, SO THE, SO THE DRAWINGS WILL HAVE TO COMPLETE THE EXISTING WITH THE NEW YES.
I'LL DO A MOTION IF YOU CAN CONTINUE THIS.
MR. CHAIR, WE HAVE A VOICEMAIL AS WELL, RIGHT BEFORE WE DO THAT, UM, YOU HAVE THE QUESTIONS.
THIS MESSAGE IS FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 19, CASE NUMBER 2024 DASH 2 1 6 19 0 2 WEST MISSILE TO MY NAME IS BIANCA MALDONADO, CHAIR OF THE MONTICELLO PARK ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE OFFERING COMMENTS ON BEHALF OF DREA GARZA, PRESIDENT OF THE MONTICELLO PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, PO BOX 1 0 0 3 1 5 7 8 2 0 1.
WE APPRE APPRECIATE PROPERTY OWNERS SEEKING TO INVEST IN THEIR HISTORIC HOME.
WE SUPPORT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR CONCEPTUAL APPROVAL AND THEIR OUTLINED STIPULATIONS.
THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERATION OF OUR
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COMMENTS.OKAY, COMMISSIONER GROUP? YEAH.
UM, I'M GONNA DO A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH STAFF STIPULATIONS.
SO I DO, I DO WANNA EMPHASIZE ON THE DRAWINGS AND I DO BELIEVE THAT, UH, I'VE TOUCHED POINTS, BUT I THINK BOTH FOR YOU AND YOUR CONTRACTOR, YOU ARE ON A CORNER.
UM, SO SOME OF IT WILL BE VISIBLE AND I THINK SOME OF THESE DRAWINGS, IT'S, IT'S BOTH DETAILS.
I GUESS WE'RE NOT SPECIFYING IF THEY HAVE TO BE PROFESSIONAL ARCHITECTURE DRAWINGS, BUT I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT HOW DOES THE ROOF CONNECT? WHAT'S THE HEIGHT OF THE WINDOWS, YOU KNOW, THOSE THINGS HAVE TO MATCH AND I THINK YOU'RE ALSO GONNA BE HAPPY TO HAVE THAT WITH YOUR CONTRACTOR.
'CAUSE IN CASE SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT IT'S VERY SPECIFIC TO WHAT TYPE OF WINDOW, WHERE'S THE WINDOW? EVERYTHING IS MEASURED OUT CORRECTLY.
AND UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D ALSO LIKE TO ADD THAT UH, YOUR CONTRACTOR'S PROBABLY GONNA NEED SOME, UH, ACTUALLY DRAFTED DIMENSION DRAWINGS IN ORDER TO PULL HIS PERMITS AS WELL.
OKAY, I'VE WRITTEN ALL OF THIS DOWN AND IT IS, UM, SUFFICIENT INFORMATION.
MAY WE HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? CASTILLO? AYE.
AGENDA ITEM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 20 HDRC CASE NUMBER 2024 DASH 1 78 3 22 LAMAR STREET.
THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR APPROVAL TO ONE, REMOVE THE EXISTING ROOF AND REFRAMING AND RECONSTRUCT TO MATCH THE EXISTING ROOF FORM AND INCREASE THE OVERALL HEIGHT BY THREE FEET.
MODIFY THE EXISTING ROOF FORM OF THE POST 1951 RE EDITION THREE.
MODIFY THE EXISTING ROOF FORM OF THE CIRCA 1912 RE EDITION, UM, REC STAFF'S.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF ITEM ONE BASED ON FINDINGS A THROUGH D WITH THE FOLLOWING STIPULATIONS.
ONE THAT THE APPLICANT RETAINED THE EXISTING RIDGE HEIGHTS OF THE ORIGINAL PORTION OF THE CURRENT ELEVATIONS.
THAT THE APPLICANT SUBMIT TO STAFF UPDATED CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS ACCURATELY REFLECTING THE ITEMS AND STIPULATION ONE.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF ITEM TWO BASED ON FINDINGS A AND E.
AND ITEM THREE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF ITEM THREE BASED ON FINDINGS A, C AND F.
THE PROPERTY OWNER GUS OSA IS HERE VIRTUALLY.
THERE IS ONE LETTER AND ONE VOICEMAIL FOR COMMISSIONER REVIEW BEFORE WE BEGIN.
PLEASE NOTE THAT STAFF HAS SPOKEN TO THE APPLICANT AND HE AGREES WITH STAFF STIPULATIONS.
ADDITIONALLY, WINDOW REPLACEMENT OR MODIFICATIONS ARE NOT REQUEST ITEMS AT THIS TIME.
THE WINDOW CON CONFI THE WINDOW CONFIGURATION IN THE SUBMITTED ELEVATION DRAWINGS ARE NOT ACCURATE AND THE APPLICANT HAS STATED THAT THEY WILL PROVIDE STAFF WITH ACCURATE DRAWINGS BEFORE THE ISSUANCE OF A COA IS EX EXISTING WINDOWS ON SITE WILL REMAIN WHERE, WHERE LOCATED AND WILL BE REPAIRED IN KIND.
ADDITIONALLY, THIS REQUEST WENT BEFORE A PRE-SUBMIT SUBMITTAL CONSULTATION.
UM, PREVIOUS REQUEST ITEMS INCLUDED THE BOXING END OF A BAY WINDOW AND THE UH, IN A FRONT ADDITION AS WELL AS OTHER ITEMS. THE APPLICANT HAS MODIFIED THE REQUEST SINCE THEN TO, UH, CONFORM CLOSER TO HISTORIC DESIGN GUIDELINES.
MR. UH, DELAROSA, IF YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND WALK THE COMMISSIONERS TO YOUR REQUEST.
I'LL ALSO SHOW PHOTOS, UM, AND DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED AS A PART OF YOUR REQUEST TODAY.
I'LL TRY TO MAKE THIS AS BRIEF AS POSSIBLE.
UM, WE BOUGHT THIS HOUSE, ME AND MY BROTHER, UH, AS OUR FIRST INVESTMENT HOME.
UH, WE DIDN'T PAY ATTENTION TO HEY, WE'RE IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT, SO WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET THIS APPROVED SINCE I BELIEVE MARCH TIMEFRAME.
UM, WE DID HAVE, LIKE BRIAN MENTIONED, WE DID HAVE A, A PRE, A PRE-MEETING AND OUR DESIGN WAS COMPLETELY OFF FROM THE REGULATIONS THAT, UM, THE HDR WAS REQUESTING.
UM, IT IS A, A HOME THAT WE BOUGHT KNOWING THAT IT HAD FIRE DAMAGE, THE ROOF WILL NEED TO BE COMPLETELY REMOVED BECAUSE OF THE FIRE DAMAGE OF COURSE.
AND THE REAR ADDITION THAT WAS MEANT IN 1951 IS NOT TO CODE.
UM, IF YOU CAN TELL HOW IT'S NOT REALLY STABLE RIGHT AS IT IS, IT'S ALREADY LEANING, UH, WILL HAVE TO BE REBUILT.
UM, WHAT THE BIGGEST ISSUE WAS THE WINDOWS.
UH, WE WILL REUSE THE SAME WINDOWS AND PUT 'EM RIGHT BACK WHERE
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THEY CAME FROM.BUT IN ORDER TO MEET THE 11 FOOT INTERIOR CEILING OF THE ORIGINAL HOME, WE WERE WILLING TO, WE WERE WANTING TO RAISE THE ROOF ON THE BACK END TO EIGHT FEET INTERIOR.
UM, BUT WE WILL REPLACE THE ROOF EXACTLY HOW IT'S LAYS AS OF RIGHT NOW.
UM, AND THAT WAS PER THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN, UH, OR PRELIMINARY MEETING WITH YOU GUYS THAT HEY, IT HAS TO LOOK THE SAME.
UM, UH, AT THIS TIME I HAVE NO FURTHER CONCERNS OR, OR AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? I HAVE A VOICEMAIL ON THIS.
HELLO, MY NAME IS VALERIE CORTES AND I'M CALLING ON BEHALF OF THE GROUP THE CONCERNED CITIZENS OF DIG WITTY HILL WITH REGARD TO CASE NUMBER 2024 DASH 1 78 LOCATED AT 3 22 LAMAR STREET.
WE AGREE WITH O P'S RECOMMENDATION TO NOT ALLOW THE REMOVAL OF THE EXISTING ROOF AND ROOF FRAMING TO ALLOW FOR AN INCREASED HEIGHT BY THREE FEET.
WE WOULD ALSO LIKE CLARIFICATION ON THE WINDOWS ON THE ELEVATION DRAWINGS.
IT LOOKS LIKE THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO INSTALL NON-CONFORMING WINDOWS ON PRETTY MUCH ALL SIDES OF THE HOUSE.
CAN STAFF CONFIRM THAT THIS IS THE REQUEST? IF IT IS, WE WOULD ASK THAT THESE NON-CONFORMING WINDOWS NOT BE ALLOWED AND THAT THE ORIGINAL ONE OVER ONE WINDOW BE RETAINED.
SO STAFF YOU, I THOUGHT YOU SAID THAT THE APPLICANT HAD AGREED TO ALL RECOMMENDATIONS THEY HAD.
SO, UM, THERE WAS A MISCOMMUNICATION, UM, BETWEEN STAFF AND THE APPLICANT.
SO THE APPLICANT IS NOT REQUESTING THE, UH, INCREASE IN HEIGHT OF THE ORIGINAL FOOTPRINT BY THREE FEET.
UH, THE ONLY HEIGHT INCREASE WOULD BE THE, UH, DUE TO THE REDESIGN OF THE BACK REAR ADDITIONS TO INCLUDE UM, TO GO FROM THE SHED ROOF TO AND THE GABLED REAR FACING GABLED ROOF, UH, TO BOTH HIP ROOFS AS SHOWN IN THE, THE ROOF PLAN SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT.
BUT YOU HAVE SEEN THOSE ROOF PLANS.
SO WHEN YOU SET TWO 'CAUSE THAT'S THE POST 1951.
SO THEN YOU WILL BE OKAY WITH IT.
SO I MEAN WHAT I MEAN IS WHAT THE APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR DOES FOLLOW THE RECOMMENDATION? THAT IS CORRECT.
MOTION TO APPROVE WITH, UH, STAFF STIPULATIONS.
SECOND FURTHER DISCUSSION PLEASE.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE, WE'RE CLEAR.
HE WILL BE ALLOWED TO RAISE THAT REAR PORTION OF THAT, OF THAT PORTION TO, TO EIGHT FEET INTERIOR, RIGHT? TO MEET THE, THE REQUIREMENT? YES, THAT IS, YEAH, THAT, THAT IS CORRECT.
THE, THE ONLY INCREASE IN HEIGHT IS GONNA BE FOR THE UH, NEW HOOP, NEW HIP ROOFS AT THE REAR.
UM, THANK THE APPLICANT 'CAUSE I REMEMBER THIS UM, LAST TIME.
SO YOU DEPUTY DONE A TURNAROUND HERE SO WE APPRECIATE THAT.
SO, UM, MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? CASTILLO? AYE.
THAT WAS THE LAST CASE, SO WE ARE ADJOURNED.