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I APPRECIATE ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS SHOWING UP ON A FRIDAY AFTERNOON LIKE THIS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER.
I KNOW IT'S A BUSY TIME FOR EVERYBODY, BUT, UH, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO HEAR THESE APPEALS IN A TIMELY MANNER.
SO I DO APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S PROMPTNESS FOR, FOR JOINING US TODAY.
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE CHAIR TO GET US STARTED.
GOOD MORNING AND, OR GOOD AFTERNOON RATHER, LADIES, GENTLEMEN, THE TIME RIGHT NOW IS 1 34 ON JULY 26TH, 2024.
MY NAME IS JACK UP MOORE AND I AM THE CHAIR OF THE BUILDING RELATED AND FIRE CODES APPEALS AND ADVISORY BOARD OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
SO I HEREBY CALL THIS MEETING INSTITUTE SESSION CHAIR.
CAN WE HAVE OUR INTERPRETERS READ THE INTERPRETATION SERVICES AVAILABLE FOR THIS MEETING, PLEASE? GOOD AFTERNOON.
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PLEASE CONDUCT THE ROLL CALL LEWIS FRECKLES.AND JACK MOORE HERE WE HAVE QUORUM.
I'D LIKE TO REMIND ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS TO USE THE MICROPHONE WHEN SPEAKING FOR THOSE WATCHING LIVE AT HOME OR THE RECORDING AT A LATER TIME.
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A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE MEETING MINUTES FOR THE BOARD MEETING OF MARCH 26TH, 2024? YES.JACK? UH, CHAIRMAN, I, I ASKED, UH, UH, MR. MCDONALD IF HE WOULD VERIFY.
'CAUSE I THOUGHT I WAS AT THAT LAST MEETING, BUT IT SAYS THAT I WASN'T, I PROBABLY DIDN'T SIGN THE SHEET, BUT I DON'T KNOW.
SO, PENDING, UH, LISTENING TO THE TAPE AND CHECKING THE STUFF, I THOUGHT I WAS PRESENT WITH THE LAST ONE.
MAYBE HE DID SAY ENOUGH TO GET REALLY NOTICED OR SOMETHING.
UH, BUT YEAH, SO, UH, UH, WE CAN DEFINITELY, UM, IF Y'ALL WANT TO APPROVE THE MINUTES WITH THAT, UH, CONTINGENCY, I THINK WE CAN APPROVE, MOVE APPROVAL WITH THAT PROVISION.
YOU HAVE A MOTION FOR DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND MOTION.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
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PRIOR TO MOVING TO THE INDIVIDUAL AGENDA ITEMS THAT THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT HAS SIGNED UP TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT.IF SO, WHEN THE STAFF CALLS YOUR NAME, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS BEFORE COMMENTING.
UH, YEAH, WE DO HAVE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
UH, DOES CHAIR WANT TO SET A TIME LIMIT? UH, USUALLY WE GO, WHAT, THREE MINUTES, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
WE HAVE, UH, CARLOS, AVA CORDOVA, CORDOVA, UH, FOLLOWED BY RAY KINCAID.
RAY CAN LAST IF YOU DON'T MIND.
IF YOU COULD DO, UM, ME AND THEN, UM, SEABURN, UM, FENTON, UH, ELIZABETH, AND THEN RAY.
SO IT'LL BE CARLOS FOLLOWED BY, UH, JEFF SEABURN.
UM, AND I APPRECIATE, UH, YOU GUYS TAKING THE TIME TO DO THIS.
UH, I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS, YOU KNOW, IN MY SPARE TIME, BUT I'VE NEVER SEEN.
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COULD YOU PLEASE, UH, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE? MY NAME IS CARLOS CORDOVA.I LIVE AT 1 4 9 3 9 CADILLAC DRIVE IN SAN ANTONIO.
I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE CADILLAC DRIVE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
AND I'M SORRY THAT YOU HAVE TO BE HERE BECAUSE QUITE HONESTLY, THERE'S LAWS THAT GOVERN THIS TYPE OF THING.
UM, THIS BAR GOT A LICENSE FROM THE TBAC TO BE A RESTAURANT THAT SERVED ALCOHOL.
WE ALL LIKE A DRINK, BUT IN FACT, IT'S THE BAR THAT SELLS FOOD.
THERE'S SEVERAL LAWS THAT GOVERN THIS.
HAD THEY COME TO US IN THE BEGINNING AND BEEN UP FRONT, THEIR LICENSE IS A RED OR BLUE GUN, WHICH MEANS THAT THEY, THEIR ALCOHOL WAS GONNA BE UNDER 50% WHEN THEY WENT TO TABC.
I SPOKE TO A RETIRED JUDGE WHO USED TO BE A SENATOR, AND I SAID, UH, I ASKED HER, WHAT, UH, WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN YOUR RULING? SHE SAID, EVERY TIME I WOULD'VE DENIED IT BECAUSE WE DON'T ALLOW THOSE KIND OF THINGS IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
SO WITH THAT IN MIND, I, I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT FIVE ITEMS THAT ARE COMPLETELY AGAINST THE LAW IN ILLEGAL.
NUMBER ONE, UH, CITY OF SAN ANTONIO HAS A 75% ALCOHOL SALES PERCENTAGE.
UH, THERE, THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY LIBERAL LEEWAY.
THIS ORGANIZATION FOR FIVE CONTIGUOUS, THEY HAVEN'T HAD ONE GOOD MONTH, FIVE CONTIGUOUS MONTHS HAD, HAS BEEN IN THE 95% AREA.
UM, THIS BAR IS WITHIN, AND THIS IS MORE ON THE T-A-B-A-C SIDE.
AND I REALIZE THAT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT I THINK IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT I SHOULD, I SHOULD MENTION THIS BAR IS WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET OF TWO SCHOOLS.
THAT'S AGAINST TABC LAW LAWS RULES.
ONE IS A IS A CENTER FOR CHILDREN, WHICH IS AN AUTISTIC CENTER, AND THE OTHER ONE IS A, IS A SCHOOL AT, AT THE, UM, UH, THE SHABBAT, THE A JEWISH SYNAGOGUE, WHICH HAS A SCHOOL FOR CHILDREN AND SCO AND THE ROW WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET.
UM, THE NEXT THING THAT WOULD'VE BEEN AGAINST TABC RULES IS THAT THEY'RE WITHIN 300 FEET OF A CHURCH.
HAD THEY COME TO US IN THE BEGINNING, THAT WOULD'VE AUTOMATICALLY DISQUALIFIED THEM, AND THAT WOULD BE THE SHABBAT VIC.
NOW, HERE'S THE PROBLEM WITH, WITH BEING THERE.
IT IS A JEWISH ORTHODOX CHURCH, AND THEIR PRACTICE REQUIRES THAT THEY, THEY DON'T DO THINGS MECHANICAL ON THE SABBATH.
SO THEY WALK TO CHURCH AND THEY WALK BACK.
THE RABBI LIVES ON CADILLAC DRIVE.
SO THEY WALK BY THERE EARLY IN THE AFTERNOON, BUT THEY COME BACK AT MIDNIGHT OR LATER, RIGHT AT THE TIME WHEN, WHEN THIS BAR IS OPEN, GOING FULL BLAST.
AND I'M GONNA SHOW YOU SOME DATA IN, IN A MINUTE AS TO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE PICKED UP FROM THE POLICE BLOTTER.
UM, THEY'RE AT PERIL, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY DRUNK COULD RUN INTO THEM DRUNK AND WHEN TO, TO CREATE A A A A RUCKUS.
THE SAME THING COULD HAPPEN WITH THE SCHOOLS, BECAUSE WE'RE FINDING NEEDLES IN THE PARKING LOT IN THE MORNING.
WE'LL FIND BROKEN BOTTLES, WE'LL FIND EMPTY ALCOHOL ITEMS. IF THESE THINGS END UP AT THE SCHOOLS, THAT WOULD BE DISASTROUS.
I APPRECIATE, UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE AT THREE MINUTE MARK.
THESE ARE THE DISTURBANCES THAT I WAS ABLE TO COLLECT.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE JEFF SEABURN FOLLOWED BY AARON BENTON.
UM, GENTLEMEN, FIRST OFF, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE FOR US.
UH, JUST LIKE CARLOS SAID, UH, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
AND MY ADDRESS IS 1 4 4, UH, NINE THREE CADILLAC DRIVE.
THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY QUICK, GUYS.
UM, JUST WANNA LET Y'ALL KNOW I'M FREE AFTER THE MEETING TOO.
UH, IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU WANNA SPEAK MORE ABOUT, I'VE GOT LOTS OF INFORMATION.
I GENTLEMEN, I LIVE RIGHT BEHIND THE BAR.
UH, SHOW OF HANDS, ARE Y'ALL, UH, SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS? OKAY, HOW ABOUT PARENTS? YES.
I'M BOTH, UH, HAD MY BUSINESS HERE FOR, UH, OVER CLOSE TO 25 YEARS.
AND SINCE I LIVE RIGHT BEHIND THIS, UH, THIS, THIS BAR, UH, I, I'M THE FIRST ONE WHO FOUND OUT ABOUT IT BECAUSE I HEARD IT.
AND, UH, AGAIN, I'M, I KNOW I'M PRESSED FOR TIME HERE.
SO THE MAIN POINT I AM HERE TO MAKE IS I'M COMING BEFORE YOU ALL.
I'M VERY, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT, UH, THAT YOU KNOW THAT I'M ALSO A, UH, A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER.
I TAKE THIS VERY SERIOUSLY, UH, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE.
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HOWEVER, I'M ALSO A PARENT AND, UH, WE'VE HAD LOTS OF SHOOTINGS.AND SINCE I LIVE RIGHT BEHIND, THAT'S MY HOUSE, THAT, THAT'S WHAT FACES THE HAVANA CLUB OR BAR, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT.
OKAY? THAT'S WHAT'S IN THE WAY.
MY BOYS LIVE AT THE TOP OF THAT BUILDING RIGHT ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
AND THAT'S WHAT'S IN THE WAY, THOSE BULLETS, AND IT'S BEEN MULTIPLE TIMES THEY WE'RE IN, WE'RE IN THE LINE OF FIRE.
I GUESS THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE SHOOTING.
THAT'S WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT TO ME.
I'M SURE THERE'S OTHER, UH, NEIGHBORS THAT COULD SAY OTHER THINGS, BUT THAT'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME, IS MY, MY KIDS.
I'VE LIVED AT THIS LOCATION FOR 10 YEARS.
I LOVE TO LIVE HERE FOR ANOTHER 20, 30 YEARS, UH, HAVE MY CHILDREN, GRANDCHILDREN, UH, PURCHASE OTHER PROPERTIES RIGHT BEHIND IT.
HOWEVER, IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN TO ANY OF US, OR IT KEEPS ON GETTING WORSE, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO, TO ACCOMPLISH THAT.
THAT'S WHAT I WANT YOU TO CONSIDER, IS YOU'RE DEALING WITH PARENTS HERE, PARENTS OF LOVED ONES, LOVED LITTLE ONES THAT ARE SCHOOL AGED.
AND THAT'S REALLY THE POINT I WANNA DRIVE.
THANKS AGAIN, AND I'M AVAILABLE ANYTIME, AND I CAN SHOW YOU AND ON THERE.
I MEAN, IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU, UH, THIS IS, THIS IS, UH, IT'S JUST REALLY QUICK.
FIVE MINUTES ON, UH, SOCIAL MEDIA.
AND, UH, THIS IS THE TYPE OF, UH, LOCATION THAT, UH, AND THESE ARE ALL PICTURES THAT THEY POST AND ARE HAPPY TO POST.
UH, AGAIN, THIS IS, UH, THIS IS WHAT'S RIGHT NEXT TO MY CHILDREN.
AARON BENTON, A-A-R-O-N-B, LIKE BRAVO, E-N-T-O-N.
UH, BEEN A RESIDENT OF SAN ANTONIO FOR 22 YEARS.
MY WIFE AND I BUILT OUR HOUSE IN WALKER RANCH 20 YEARS AGO.
UH, WALKER RANCH IS A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF BLANCO ROAD RELATIVE TO THE ESTABLISHMENT.
AND WHERE JEFF LIVES SIDE BACKED JEFF SEABURN, WHO JUST SPOKE AND I WE'RE PREVIOUSLY NEIGHBORS.
HE AND HIS WIFE HAD THE HOUSE LITERALLY RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO MINE.
UM, WE'RE BEEN FRIENDS FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
I KNOW HIS CHILDREN, THEY DECIDED TO MOVE, UPGRADE TO A BIGGER HOUSE, BETTER NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO LITERALLY JUST PACKED UP, MOVED RIGHT ACROSS BLANCO ROAD INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THEY LIVE IN NOW.
UM, WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS, UH, STARTING IN AROUND FEBRUARY OR MARCH OF THIS YEAR, UM, MY HOUSE IS 1,400 FEET, SO THAT'S ABOUT FOUR AND A HALF FOOTBALL FIELDS AWAY FROM THE ESTABLISHMENT.
I WOULD BE OUTTA MY BACK DECK TO 2:33 AM IN THE MORNING.
I'M A NIGHT OWL, AND USUALLY AT THAT TIME, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF AMBIENT NOISE.
PRETTY MUCH THE ONLY THING I HEAR ARE THE AIRPLANES THAT ARE COMING INTO LAND, YOU KNOW, INTERMITTENTLY BECAUSE THE FLIGHT PATH IS RIGHT OVER OUR HOUSE.
AND YOU CAN HEAR CRICKETS CHIRP.
BUT EARLIER THIS YEAR, THE EVENING STARTED BEING DISTURBED BY WHAT SOUNDED LIKE, YOU KNOW, RIVALRY, A PARTY, SOMETHING GOING ON, MAYBE A FEW HOUSES DOWN.
UM, THAT'S NOT COMPLETELY UNCOMMON AROUND OUR AREA FOR SOMEONE TO HAVE A PARTY AT NIGHT ON A FRIDAY OR A SATURDAY NIGHT.
IT'S A VERY DIVERSE COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE PEOPLE OF ALL AGES, ALL FAITHS, ETHNICITIES, RACE, RELIGION, TO VERY WELCOME AND SAFE NEIGHBORHOOD HOOD.
WHAT I STARTED HEARING WAS LOUD MUSIC, TIRES SCREECHING, HORNS HONKING.
THAT WAS JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG.
I THEN STARTED HEARING GUNSHOTS AS MR. SEABURN MADE REFERENCE TO.
I SPENT FOUR YEARS AS AN INFANTRY OFFICER IN THE ARMY.
WHEN YOU HEAR AN AR 15, YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE.
AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I HEARD.
NOT ONCE, NOT TWICE, BUT THREE TIMES.
I WOKE MY WIFE UP AND SAID, SHOULD WE CALL THE POLICE? I DON'T, YOU KNOW, COULDN'T PINPOINT EXACTLY WHERE IT CAME FROM, DECIDED TO NOT GET INVOLVED BECAUSE AT THAT POINT, JUST DIDN'T WANNA PUT MYSELF AT THAT LEVEL.
OVER THE MONTHS, THIS HAS CONTINUED.
DOESN'T MATTER WHAT DAY OF THE WEEK IT IS, I LIVE THAT FAR AWAY.
AND I CAN HEAR THE MUSIC, CARS RACING, HORNS HONKING.
YOU CAN EVEN HEAR THE VOICES OF PEOPLE.
UM, IT JUST DOES NOT CREATE A, WHAT WE PERCEIVE TO BE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT, LET ALONE A, A PEACEFUL ONE.
I DON'T REPRESENT A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION.
I'M JUST HERE BECAUSE I WANT TO BE A GOOD CITIZEN.
SO, WITH THAT, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
ELIZABETH SMALL, FOLLOWED BY RAY KINCAID.
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CANON NARROW IN CHURCHILL ESTATES.UM, I AM ON THE BOARD OF THE CHURCHILL ESTATES, UH, HOA.
I'M HERE TO SUPPORT OUR FELLOW NEIGHBORS IN FAVOR OF THE CLOSING HAVANA BAR AND GRILL.
WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS ESTABLISHMENT, WHICH STARTED AS A RESTAURANT, BUT HAS BEEN OPERATING AS A BAR IN SUCH CLOSE VICINITY TO OUR N OUR SUBDIVISION.
WE SHARE A COUPLE OF CONCERNS WITH OUR FELLOW NEIGHBORS, ONE BEING TRAFFIC.
CHURCHILL ESTATES BOULEVARD IS A CUT THROUGH FROM BLANCO TO EBNER, VICE VERSA.
I HAVE A NINE MONTH OLD, SO I'VE BEEN UP FOR THE LAST NINE MONTHS DURING NIGHTS.
AND THE NOISE ON THE BOULEVARD HAS INCREASED THE TRAFFIC DURING THE NIGHT, THERE'S BEEN RACING ON THE STREET, ON THE BOULEVARD.
THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY RUNNING STOP SIGNS, STOP SIGNS AT THE END OF OUR STREET.
UM, ANOTHER CONCERN IS THE GUNS.
THE GUNS AND ALCOHOL DON'T MIX WELL.
AND IF THEY DECIDE TO LEAVE THE ESTABLISHMENT AND PURSUE EACH OTHER OR CONFRONT EACH OTHER IN A CAR, THEY MAY TURN DOWN THE BOULEVARD.
OUR BOULEVARD HOUSE HOUSES THAT FACE THAT DIRECTION, THE BEDROOM WINDOWS FACE THAT DIRECTION.
WE DON'T NEED ANYTHING HAPPENING TO ANY OF OUR FAMILIES.
WE'VE ALREADY HAD ONE INCIDENT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, IT WAS ACTUALLY MY NEIGHBOR WAS DRIVING, UM, ON THE SUNDAY IN MAY.
AND, UH, HIS MOTHER-IN-LAW WAS IN THE BACKSEAT OF THAT VEHICLE AS THEY LEFT THE GRADUATION AT THE AMMO DOME.
AND HIS MOTHER-IN-LAW WAS MURDERED BY CROSS FIRE OF THE BULLETS.
I'M CONCERNED THAT IF SOMETHING SHOULD HAPPEN WITH THESE, AT THIS ESTABLISHMENT AND IT ROLLS OVER INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, SOMETHING BAD CAN HAPPEN TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND I JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW THAT CHURCHILL ESTATES DOES SUPPORT OUR FELLOW NEIGHBORS AND, UH, A CONCERN ABOUT THIS, UH, ESTABLISHMENT AND THE ACTIVITIES THAT ARE GOING ON THERE.
WE HAVE RAY KINCAID FOLLOWED BY Y TWO.
MY NAME'S RAY KINCAID, TWO WATERS EDGE WAY SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS.
I REPRESENT EDGEWATER HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION.
WE'RE RIGHT AT THE END OF CADILLAC DRIVE IN BLINKO ROAD.
OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS A GATED COMMUNITY WITH A ROUNDABOUT OUTSIDE THE GATE.
IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR MY RESIDENTS TO EXPERIENCE PARKED CARS IN OR AROUND OR ROUNDABOUT EARLY IN THE MORNING.
THE DRIVERS ARE UP ALL PASSED OUT ON OCCASION.
WE FIND THEM INSIDE OUR GATE PARKED IN THE COMMON AREA.
ONE DRIVER I AWOKEN HAD NO IDEA WHERE HE WAS AND HOW HE GOT IN OUR INSIDE OUR GATE.
HIS CAR WAS OUTTA GAS, HIS BATTERY WAS DEAD, OBVIOUSLY.
HE, THE CAR RAN OUTTA GAS FOR RUNNING FOR HOURS.
TO ME, THIS IS CLEARLY AN ALCOHOL RELATED INCIDENT.
MY RESIDENCE WITH PROFESSIONAL SCHEDULES THAT REQUIRE THEM TO TRAVEL PAST PLANCO AND CADILLAC INTERSECTION ARE AT THE HIGHEST RISK OF GETTING INJURED OR HURT.
GOING TO WORK LATE AT NIGHT OR EARLY IN THE MORNING.
THIS CONCERN OF GRAVE INJURY ALSO INCLUDES MY RESIDENCE AT WALK AND JOG DOWN CADILLAC AND BACK.
THESE CARS WITH DRIVERS WHO ARE INEBRIATED HAVE NO PLACE ON OUR ROADS.
WE NEVER HAD THIS PROBLEM UNTIL THE VAN BARN GRILL OPENED.
THE BIGGEST THREAT WE HAD WAS DEER HITTING OUR CAR.
NOW WE MUST WORRY ABOUT A 4,094 POUND AUTOMOBILE WITH INCAPACITATED DRIVERS.
I'M SURE WE ALL HEARD THE STORY ABOUT AIDEN BURT, 28-YEAR-OLD TEACHER AT THE CONFERENCE DOWNTOWN, ENJOYING HER EVENING WITH COLLEAGUES AT THE SMOKE SKY BAR ON MONDAY NIGHT WHEN SHE WAS SHOT.
THE ELEVATED PATIO BAR LOCATED ON CROCKETT STREET, NOT FAR FROM HOUSTON STREET AND INTERSTATE 37 POLICE SAID SHE WAS SITTING ON THE PATIO JUST AFTER MIDNIGHT WITH HER BACK TO THE HIGHWAY WHEN SHE WAS HIT BY BULLET FIRED FROM THE VICINITY OF INTERSTATE 37.
SINCE VAN BAR AND GRILL OPENED, WE'VE HAD NUMEROUS SHOOTINGS REPORTED NEAR BLANCO CADILLAC AROUND 2:00 AM ALL BULLETS STOPPED SOMEWHERE, A HOUSE, A CAR, A CHILD IN BED SLEEPING, A HOMEOWNER GOING OR COMING TO WORK.
I THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME AND ALLOW ME TO BE HEARD.
YOU ENTERED TWO, FOLLOWED BY SONIA LUNA, YOU ENTERED JUST ONE.
IT'S A PLEASURE TO SEE YOU ALL.
I'VE JUST GOTTEN BACK FROM A VACATION IN TAIWAN.
UM, SO I HAVEN'T BEEN TO A RECENT MEETING.
UM, I'M FROM THE DEAF ASSOCIATION OF SAN ANTONIO AND THERE ARE SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY HERE THAT WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE ISSUE OF FIRE ALARMS. AND I KNOW THAT SCHOOL IS GONNA START IN AUGUST SOON.
AND, UM, BUT HOPEFULLY THAT YOU GUYS WERE READY TO LISTEN TO THE COMMENTS FROM THE COMMUNITY.
SONYA LUNA, FOLLOWED BY LARRY TELOS.
I LIVE AT 5 2 4 6 GA GOWAN STREET.
I'M HERE BECAUSE I NEED TO TALK ABOUT A REQUIREMENT FOR FIRE ALARMS. I HAVE LIVED IN THREE DIFFERENT APARTMENTS HERE IN SAN ANTONIO AND NOW INTO A HOME, UM, THAT DID NOT HAVE FLASHING FIRE ALARMS FOR MY SAFETY.
WHEN I WENT LOOKING FOR APARTMENTS.
I KEEP LOOKING FOR A PLACE THAT IS GONNA BE MORE SAFE BECAUSE I CAN'T HEAR
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A TRADITIONAL FIRE ALARM.WE DO HAVE A DOG, UM, THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO ALERT US AND BARK, BUT THERE WAS AN INCIDENT WHERE MY NEIGHBOR WAS HAVING A BARBECUE AND I COULD STILL SMELL SMOKE IN THE EVENING TIME.
I KEPT SMELLING SMOKE AND WONDERING WHAT WAS THAT? WHAT WAS THAT? AND LOOKING ALL AROUND MY APARTMENT, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE WAS A FIRE IN MY APARTMENT.
AND THEN MY HUSBAND REALIZED THAT NO, THE SMELL WAS COMING FROM OUTSIDE AND IT WAS JUST RESIDUAL ODORS FROM THE NEIGHBOR'S BARBECUE.
UM, BUT AS THE PERSON WHO IS DEAF, WE'RE VERY SENSITIVE TO THINGS THAT WE CAN'T HEAR.
AND SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT SAN ANTONIO ENFORCE THE RULE THAT REQUIRES FLASHING FIRE ALARMS. THANK YOU.
OUR LAST SPEAKER IS LARRY LIOS.
I WAS BORN, I WAS RAISED IN SAN ANTONIO.
UM, AND I NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
THERE IS A BIG ISSUE WITH THE LACK OF, WITH THE FIRE ALARMS THAT ARE BEING PROVIDED.
SO WE'VE BEEN ARGUING ABOUT THIS FOR FIRE FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS.
UM, NEEDING ACCESS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE DEAF.
WE HAVE AN ORGANIZATION THAT GETS TOGETHER EVERY FRIDAY MORNING, UM, AND HAS BREAKFAST TOGETHER, AND WE TALK ABOUT ISSUES AND IT'S A COMMON PROBLEM.
UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO SET UP MAYBE A TOWN HALL MEETING OR SOMETHING ELSE WHERE WE COULD ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO OUR POPULATION, TO OUR COMMUNITY.
SO THE FIRE MARSHAL ONE TIME CAME AND DID MEET WITH US, BUT DID NOT PROVIDE AN INTERPRETER.
AND SO WE HAD DIFFICULTY COMMUNICATING, UM, WITH THE FIRE MARSHAL AT THAT TIME, AND HE MADE A LOT OF UGLY FACIAL EXPRESSIONS.
UM, BUT WE ARE A PART OF THE SAN ANTONIO COMMUNITY AND WE DESERVE TO HAVE OUR NEEDS MET.
AND SO IF A FIRE MARSHAL OR A FIREMAN OR ANOTHER CITY OFFICIAL IS GOING TO VISIT A PERSON AT THEIR HOME AND THEY ARE DEAF, THEN THEY HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF PROVIDING ACCESS TO COMMUNICATION AND SHOULD ARRANGE TO HAVE AN INTERPRETER ACCOMPANY THEM WHEN THEY COME.
UM, WE HAVE TRIED TALKING TO CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICERS ABOUT AN APARTMENT OR A HOME THAT DOES NOT HAVE FIRE ALARMS THAT ARE ADEQUATE FOR THE RESIDENTS BECAUSE OF THEIR DISABILITY.
I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE HOMELESS THAT LIVE AROUND, YOU KNOW, IN DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS AND THEY BURN TRASH, WHICH COULD EASILY SPREAD.
SAY I'VE CALLED CODE COMPLIANCE A COUPLE OF TIMES.
I'VE CALLED THE FIRE DEPARTMENT A COUPLE OF TIMES, 12 YEARS.
THIS HAS BEEN AN ISSUE NEAR MY HOME.
AND IT'S THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO WORK TO IMPROVE THE CONDITIONS.
UM, THE HOMELESS POPULATION CAN CREATE FIRE HAZARDS FOR THE REST OF US BECAUSE OF THEIR ACTIVITIES AND THOSE FIRE SPREAD.
UM, AND SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE PROTECT OURSELVES.
WE HAVE A DISABILITY, WE CANNOT HEAR THE FIRE ALARMS. AND SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT APARTMENTS BE EQUIPPED WITH FIRE ALARMS THAT HAVE VISUAL ALERTING SIGNALS.
THAT WAS EVERYBODY I THINK HAD SIGNED UP.
IS ANYBODY ELSE? I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I DIDN'T MISS ANYBODY.
UH, MARK, YOU HAD A COMMENT? YEAH, I, I DO.
FOR OUR, UH, DEAF, UH, HEARING IMPAIRED PEOPLE ARE HERE, THERE IS A STATE LAW THAT PASSED IN TEXAS IN 2009 THAT I THINK YOU SHOULD MAKE ALL OF YOUR, UH, HEARING IMPAIRED FOLKS THAT YOU SERVICE AWARE OF THAT IN ANY RENTAL PROPERTY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GO MAKE A REQUEST OF THE LANDLORD AND THE LANDLORD MUST PROVIDE YOU WITH A HEARING IMPAIRED SMOKE DETECTOR AT THE OWNER'S COST.
SO, UH, THAT'S BEEN THE LAW NOW FOR OVER 15 YEARS.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A NEED TO GET THAT WORD OUT THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE THAT RIGHT.
AND THERE ARE SOME PRETTY STIFF PENALTIES IF THE OWNER FAILS TO DO IT.
HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT, MARK? BECAUSE I HELPED DRAFT THE LAW THAT, UH, IS IN PLACE IN 2009, 2009, WITH MY TRADE ASSOCIATION, THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT ASSOCIATION.
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I DID THAT INFORMATION TO THE LANDLORDS AND WE TRY TO GET THEM TO COME AND SERVE THE DEAF COMMUNITY, BUT NOBODY WILL COME AND HELP US.YOU KNOW, FOR MAYBE HEARING PEOPLE THEY WILL, BUT NO, THEY HAVEN'T HELPED US YET.
COULD YOU EXPLAIN TO THEM JUST A LITTLE BIT? YEAH.
IF, IF, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, IF YOU WILL CONTACT JEREMY AND GET MY ADDRESS, MY EMAIL ADDRESS AND MAKE A REQUEST TO ME, I WILL PROVIDE YOU A COPY OF THE STATUTE AS WELL AS WHAT THE ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM IS.
UH, SO THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENTS.
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AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO.THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THANK YOU.
SO, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO, UH, PRESENTATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE APPEAL OF THE BUILDING OFFICIALS NOTICE OF INTENT TO REVOKE THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR HAVANA BAR AND GRILL, LOCATED AT 1 4 3 5 5 BLANCO ROAD.
THIS APPEAL IS DOCUMENTED UNDER R-E-Q-A-P-L 2 4 4 2 9 0 0 0 4.
THAT'S JUST OUR BILL STATE NUMBER FOR JUST FOR REFERENCE.
SO WE'LL GO THROUGH A, A BRIEF PRESENTATION FROM STAFF TO KIND OF DOCUMENT THE FACTS OF THE CASE SO Y'ALL CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT CODE SECTIONS WE ARE ENFORCING AND WHAT, UH, DIFFERENT SECTIONS OF THE CODE.
A LOT OF THIS FALLS UNDER CHAPTER 10, UH, BUT SOME OF THIS ALSO FALLS UNDER CHAPTER 35, THE UNIFORM DEVELOPMENT CODE.
SO I'LL PROVIDE EACH ONE OF THOSE REFERENCES.
IF, IF A BOARD HAS ANY QUESTIONS DURING MY PRESENTATION, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO LET ME KNOW.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE AS WE GO, OR WE CAN DO A FOLLOW UP AFTER THAT.
THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE HAVANA BAR AND GRILL.
UH, IT'S LOCATED IN A STRIP, IT'S IN COUNCIL DISTRICT NINE, UH, WHICH I NEED A POINT.
UH, COUNCIL DISTRICT NINE IS HERE, UH, OBSERVING AND, UH, PROVIDING SOME FEEDBACK TO THEIR COUNCIL.
BUT THEY DO HAVE A MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL, UH, HERE PRESENT.
I'LL GO INTO MORE DETAIL ABOUT WHAT THAT ZONING ENTAILS, UH, AND THE REQUIREMENTS AND WHAT'S ALLOWED FOR A C TWO.
AND THE ADDRESS ONCE AGAIN IS 1 4 3 5 5 BLINKO ROAD.
UM, WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A RESTAURANT THAT SELLS ALCOHOL AND A BAR, OR IN THE UDC, SOMETHING CALLED, UH, REFERENCED AS A TAVERN IS THE DEFINITION.
UH, THAT PROPERTY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE A C3 ZONE PROPERTY, UH, FOR HEAVY COMMERCIAL TO OPERATE AS A BAR OR TAVERN, UH, IN, IF THEY WERE OPERATING OUTSIDE THEIR APPROVED CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.
THAT FALLS UNDER CHAPTER 10, UH, SECTION 10 DASH, UH, 12.
SO A BRIEF TIMELINE OF THIS PROPERTY.
UH, SO I KIND OF SCOURED OUR RECORDS, UH, JUST KIND OF GIVE SOME BACKGROUND.
UH, THE ORIGINAL CFO THAT WE CAN FIND ON FILE, UH, WAS ISSUED FOR A RESTAURANT WITH ALCOHOL SALES BACK IN 18, UH, 1989.
UH, WE SAW, FOUND THAT THERE WERE PERMITS, UH, FOR A MING TREE, UH, CHINESE RESTAURANT.
A C OF O APPLICATION, UH, CAME IN IN, UH, 2019.
THIS WAS WHAT WE CALL A DBA NAME CHANGE, WHICH MEANS THEY'RE NOT CHANGING THE USE, THEY'RE JUST CHANGING THE NAME AND OWNERSHIP OF THAT, OF THAT PROPERTY.
UH, SO THAT IN 2019 CAME IN, UH, TO BE CHANGED TO LA RESTAURANT RE, UH, LA RESTAURANT IN CANTANA, UH, IN 2021, UH, THERE WAS ANOTHER DBA NAME CHANGE, UH, TO CHANGE IT TO CHIS MAZDA, LLC.
AND THEN FINALLY, UH, WHERE WE STAND NOW IN SEPTEMBER OF 2023, ANOTHER DBA NAME CHANGE CAME IN, UH, TO CHANGE IT FROM A RESTAURANT WITH ALCOHOL SALES, UH, TO HAVANA BAR AND GRILL.
UH, WE ARE NOW CHANGING IT, AND OUR BUILD ESSAY SYSTEM WENT FROM RESTAURANT TO WHAT WE CALL A FOOD SERVICE.
UH, SO THE CFO SAYS FOOD SERVICE ESTABLISHMENT WITH ALCOHOL SALES.
IN JUNE 21ST OF THIS YEAR, UH, WE RECEIVED FINANCIAL RECORDS FROM THE OWNER.
UH, REVIEWING THOSE RECORDS SHOW THAT THEY WERE EXCEEDING 90% IN ALCOHOL CELLS, UH, FOR MULTIPLE MONTHS.
UH, BASED OFF OF THAT INFORMATION, ON JULY 17TH OF THIS YEAR, WE SENT A NOTICE OF INTENT TO REVOKE THEIR CFO AND, UH, AND DISCONNECT POWER IS NEEDED TO THE PROPERTY.
AND THEN ON JULY 12TH, I I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT, JULY 17TH.
YEAH, THAT'S, I THINK, UM, I THINK THAT SHOULD BE JUNE 27TH.
BUT, BUT THAT NOTICE DID GO OUT BEFORE THEY, THEY APPEALED, UH, THE NOTICE.
UH, BUT ON JULY 12TH, THEY DID, UH, WITHIN THE 21 DAYS OF RECEIVING THE INTENT, WHICH IS THE CODE REQUIREMENT FOR AN APPEAL, UH, THEY DID SUBMIT THAT APPLICATION.
AND HERE WE ARE ON THE 26TH, UH, MEETING THAT 14 DAY REQUIREMENT TO, TO HEAR THAT APPEAL, UH, IS AN APPEAL OF THAT DECISION TO THE INTENT TO REVOKE THE CFO, UH, RECEIVED FROM THE BUSINESS OWNER, JEREMY? YES.
UH, THIS IS EMIN THOMAS DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
AND 10 WENT OUT ON, UH, JUNE 27TH.
SO, UH, INSTEAD OF JULY 17TH, I SHOULD SAY JUNE 17TH OR 27TH, JUNE 27TH, I THINK YOU MEAN.
SO, UH, SOME WE WANT TO KIND OF BREAK DOWN
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THE LEGAL SIDE OF IT.WHAT CODES ARE BEING IMPACTED AND ENFORCED, UH, IN ORDER FOR THE BUILDING OFFICIAL TO MAKE THE DECISION TO REVOKE THE C OF O? UM, SO AS I MENTIONED, THE ZONING SIDE OF THAT WOULD FALL UNDER CHAPTER 35, BUT THE ENFORCEMENT SIDE AND WHERE THIS BOARD LAYS ON THE DECISION MAKING OF THE BUILDING OFFICIAL FALLS UNDER CHAPTER 10, UNDER SECTION 10 DASH 12, UH, WE HAVE USE AND OCCUPANCY.
THE KEY ITEM HERE IS ISSUANCE OF A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY SHALL NOT BE CONSTRUED AS AN APPROVAL OF A VIOLATION OF THE PROVISIONS OF THIS CHAPTER OR IF OTHER ORDINANCES OF THIS CITY.
UH, SO THAT WOULD BE OTHER ORDINANCES OR CHAPTERS, CHAPTER 35 BEING ONE OF THOSE, THE UNIFORM DEVELOPMENT CODE.
AND ALSO IN CHAPTER 10 DASH 12, UH, THE BUILDING OFFICIAL HAS THE RIGHT FOR REVOKING A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, UH, WHERE IT'S DETERMINED THAT THE BUILDING OR STRUCTURE OR PORTION OF THEREOF IS IN VIOLATION OF ANY ORDINANCE OR REGULATION OR ANY OF THE PROVISIONS OF THIS CHAPTER.
SO ONCE AGAIN, UH, CHAPTER 35 OF THE UDC, SO AS WE MENTIONED, IN SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR, UH, 2023, WE RECEIVED, UH, THE, UH, APPLICATION TO AN UPDATING EXISTING CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, A DBA NAME CHANGE.
UM, AND THE DESCRIPTION OF THE BUSINESS WAS A RESTAURANT.
SO THE OWNERS, UH, DURING THE APPLICATION WHERE SELF-IDENTIFYING AS A RESTAURANT, WE ISSUED THAT CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY ON SEPTEMBER NINE, UH, 12TH, 2023, AS A FOOD SERVICE ESTABLISHMENT WITH ALCOHOL CELLS, UH, BASED OFF THE ZONING, THIS IS APPROVED, IT'S, UH, CURRENTLY ZONED AS A C TWO FOR LIGHT COMMERCIAL.
UM, SO RESTAURANTS WITH ALCOHOL SALES ARE APPROVED, BUT BARS OR TAVERNS ARE NOT ALLOWED.
UH, SIMILAR RESTAURANTS, UH, JUST FOR KIND OF, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A FOOD ESTABLISHMENT THAT, THAT SERVES ALCOHOL, UH, THAT WOULD BE SIMILAR TO CHANGE SUCH AS CHILIES AND BUFFALO WILD WINGS, UH, VERSUS A BAR THAT, UH, EXCEEDS THE MORE, UH, AND I'LL GO INTO DETAILS ON THAT, ON THE EXCEEDING OF THE REVENUE, UH, GENERATION, BUT A KIND OF A BAR VERSUS A REST, UH, THAT SERVES OUT FOOD VERSUS A RESTAURANT THAT SERVES ALCOHOL.
SO, MOVING TO, UH, UDC CHAPTER 35, UH, LOOKING AT WHAT'S ALLOWED AT ALL THE DIFFERENT VARIOUS ZONING, UH, WE KINDA MENTIONED BETWEEN C TWO AND C3, UH, ONCE AGAIN, THIS PROPERTY IS, IS ZONED C TWO, WHERE UNDER C TWO, IT IS PERMISSIBLE TO SELL ALCOHOL AS A BAR OR TAVERN WITHOUT COVER CHARGE, UH, BUT IS NOT PERMISSIBLE FOR A BAR OR TAVERN WITH COVER CHARGE OR MORE DAYS PER WEEK.
IT'S, UM, C TWO, THE ONLY TIME IT IS ALLOWED TO BE SERVED IS FOOD SERVICES ESTABLISHMENT WITHOUT COVER CHARGE FOR THREE OR MORE DAYS PER WEEK WITH OR WITHOUT ACCESSORY LIVE ENTERTAINMENT.
UM, ANY OF THE OTHER ONES FOR BAR AND TAVERN FALLS UNDER THE C3.
JEREMY, JUST FOR WHAT'S, I KNOW P IS PERMITTED, WHAT'S S SPECIAL USE BEST? SO USE YES, CORRECT.
WOULD REQUIRE A COUNCIL VOTE, CORRECT? UM, ROXY, YOU WANNA, YEAH.
UH, THE SS, UH, IT WOULD BE SPECIFIC USE TO WHAT THEY'RE NEEDING AT THAT PROPERTY.
SO IF THEY DO WANT A BAR TAVERN WITHOUT COVER CHARGE THREE OR MORE DAYS PER WEEK IN A C TWO, YOU WOULD NEED SPECIFIC USE.
SO THEY WOULD NEED TO, UM, GO THROUGH THE BOARD WITH THAT TO ASK FOR SPECIFIC PERMISSION TO RUN A BAR IN TAVERN, WHICH THEY DO NOT HAVE AT THIS TIME.
AND THAT WOULD BE THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS OR THE, I'M SORRY, THE, IT'D BE THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS COULD PROVE THAT? CORRECT.
SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL, IT COULD GO THROUGH THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS.
SO AS WE MENTIONED, UH, THE DEFINITIONS OF THE UDC AS A TAVERN, UH, ANY USE IN WHICH 75% OR, OR MORE OF ITS GROSS REVENUE IS DERIVED FROM THE ON-PREMISE SALE AND CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES.
UH, FOOD SERVICES ESTABLISHMENT SHALL INCLUDE EVERY RESTAURANT, CAFE, CAFETERIA, COFFEE SHOP, SALAD SHOPS, SINK, SNACK BAR, SUPER, SUPER CLUB, UH, LAUNDRY LIST OF OTHER ITEMS, WHICH OFFERS FOOD OR BEVERAGES FOR PURCHASE AND CONSUMPTION ON OR OFF THE PREMISES.
UH, SO REALLY THE BIG SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE HERE IS THAT 75% OF THE THRESHOLD, UH, FOR REVENUE GENERATION IS ANYTHING THAT, UH, WHERE THEY EXCEED 75% OF, UH, ALCOHOL SELL, UH, THEN THEY MOVE INTO THE TAVERN DEFINITION.
UH, ONE THING WE WANT TO, YOU KNOW, TALK ABOUT, I, I KNOW THIS IS COMING IN THE PAST TO MAKING SURE EVERYBODY'S CLEAR ON WHEN THEY'RE APPLYING.
SO ON THAT SAME APPLICATION, UH, THAT THEY, UH, SUBMITTED BACK IN SEPTEMBER, IT REFERENCES OUR INFORMATION BULLETIN 1 2 6 CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCIES, WHICH PROVIDES A LOT OF INFORMATION FOR THEM TO, TO DECIPHER AND SEE, UH, DO THEY MEET THEIR QUALIFICATIONS BEFORE APPLYING.
PART OF THAT IB 1 26 IS THE DEFINITION OF A TAVERN, UH, WHICH ONCE AGAIN, YOU CAN CONSTRUED BAR C TAVERN, AND THAT'S WHERE WE GO INTO THE 75%.
SO IT WAS PROVIDED BASED ON THE INFORMATION BULLETIN THAT'S REFERENCED ON THE APPLICATION FOR THE CFO.
SO, AS I MENTIONED, UH, BACK IN JUNE, WE DID RECEIVE, UM, SOME OF THEIR REVENUES, UH, BASED OFF THOSE FINANCIAL ANALYSIS.
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MAY, UM, APRIL, MAY AND JUNE.UM, APRIL IT WAS 94 1, UH, 94.1% OF OF REVENUE, UH, CAME FROM BEVERAGE.
UH, MAY WAS 91.8 AND JUNE WAS 93.2.
UH, WE HAVE A FEW OTHER ONES, BUT THOSE WERE THE LIT MOST THREE RECENT THAT WE HAD, UH, COMING IN.
AND ALL OF THEM HAVE BEEN ABOVE THE 75.
BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, ALL OF THE LAST OF THOSE THREE MONTHS PRIOR TO US MOVING TO, TO REVOKE OR THE INTENT TO REVOKE, UH, WERE WELL ABOVE THE 75%.
UH, JUST KIND OF POINTED OUT BY SOME OF THE CITIZENS AS WELL.
BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE KINDA LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THIS ESTABLISHMENT TRYING TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF, OF, OF WHAT IS THE INTENT OF THAT ESTABLISHMENT? OF COURSE, UH, THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA, UH, KINDA GOES A LONG WAY ON, ON HELPING US DETERMINE THAT.
UH, YOU CAN, THESE ARE THE HOURS, UH, OPENING UP AT SIX, CLOSING AT TWO, UH, SOMETIMES NOT OPENING UNTIL EIGHT OR 10 AT NIGHT.
UM, THESE ARE THE ADVERTISEMENTS.
SOME OF THE INFORMATION THEY HAVE OUT THERE BY NO MEANS IS AT ALL OF IT, BUT IT IS STUFF THAT I WAS ABLE TO FIND THROUGH A QUICK, UH, RESEARCH OF THEM ONLINE.
UH, JUST AS A REFERENCE, UH, TO WHERE IT'S LOCATED AT, UH, KIND OF, YOU CAN SEE THE, THE VANTA BAR AND GRILL IS LOCATED THERE IN THAT STRIP CENTER.
UH, AND THEN, UH, ALL THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, AROUND IT.
SO PURPOSE OF SCOPE, YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT, UH, WHAT IS THE INTENT OF CHAPTER 10 AND CHAPTER 35, UH, 10 DASH 12.
UH, THE PURPOSE IS TO PROVIDE A MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS TO SAFEGUARD THE PUBLIC SAFETY, HEALTH AND GENERAL WELFARE.
UH, AND PART OF THAT IS BASED OFF OF THE USE AND OCCUPANCY OF THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF BUILDINGS THAT WE APPROVE AND ALLOW CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCIES.
UH, UNDER CHAPTER 35, UH, THE, UH, UNIFORM DEVELOPMENT CODE IS ESTABLISHED, UH, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR PURPOSE OF PROMOTING HEALTH EQUITY, COMMUNITY, FOOD SECURITY, SAFETY, MORALS, AND THE GENERAL WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY.
UM, THE ZONING AND LAND USE REGULATIONS SET FORTH IN ARTICLES TWO AND THREE ARE DESIGNED TO PROMOTE THE PUBLIC HEALTH EQUITY, COMMUNITY, FOOD SECURITY, SAFETY AND MORALS, AND THE GENERAL WELFARE.
UH, SO 35 AND 10 MIRROR EACH OTHER IN THE SENSE THAT ALL OF THESE CODES AND ORDINANCES ARE SET IN PLACE FOR THE WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY.
SO IN SUMMARY, WHAT WE HAVE IS A PROPERTY THAT ZONE CC TWO, UH, WHICH DOES NOT ALLOW TAVERNS OR BARS.
THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY THAT WAS ISSUED BACK IN SEPTEMBER OF 2023 IS FOR A RESTAURANT WITH ALCOHOL USES.
AND, UH, THAT ALLOWS FOR ALCOHOL'S USE OURSELVES, UH, BUT IS NOT A TAVERN, WHICH, UH, WOULD BE ANYTIME THAT THOSE CELLS EXCEED 75%.
UH, BASED OFF OUR REVIEW OF THEIR FINANCIAL DOCUMENTS, UH, OVER THREE MONTHS LEADING UP TO THE REVOCATION INTENT LETTER, UH, WE SHOWED THAT THEY'RE AT 95, OVER 90% OF REVENUE COMES FROM THEIR ALCOHOL CELLS.
SO BASED ON CHAPTER 10 AND 35 ARE CLEAR IN THE INTENT TO SAFEGUARD THE PUBLIC SAFETY, HEALTH, AND GENERAL WELFARE, IS THE DECISION OF THE BUILDING OFFICIAL TO ISSUE THE REVOCATION OR THE INTENT TO REVOKE THEIR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR THAT ADDRESS.
AND THAT IS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
DO, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? CHAIRMAN? UM, THERE ARE SEVERAL ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENT THIS ROBERT HANLEY APOLOGIZE.
UH, SEVERAL ITEMS ON HERE THAT ARE NOT IN OUR JURISDICTION, TABC, BUT THE, THE CRUX OF THE MOTION REALLY IS, IS THE AUTHORITY OF THE CITY STAFF TO REVOKE THE, THE, UH, CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.
AND THAT'S THE ISSUE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY VOTING ON AS A BOARD TODAY, CORRECT? CORRECT.
JEREMY, HAS ANY OF THE, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
HAS ANY OF THE FINANCIALS THAT THEY PROVIDED, HAVE THEY BEEN UNDER THE 75%? I DO NOT RECALL.
WE HAD, I THINK TWO MONTHS PRIOR TO THAT AS WELL.
I JUST DIDN'T WANNA CROWD THE, UM, I CAN PULL THOSE UP IF YOU WANNA SEE THEM.
NO, I DON'T WANNA SAY, BUT EVERYTHING I'VE SEEN HAS BEEN ABOVE 75 5 IF YOU JUST SAY YES.
THEY WERE, WERE THEY, THEY WERE ABOVE 75, ALL OF THEM WERE ABOVE 75 FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS, UM, LAST FIVE MONTHS, YES, THAT'S, THAT'S CORRECT.
THANK YOU THAT THEY SUBMITTED.
EVERYTHING WE HAVE IS UP UNTIL JUNE.
SO I, I, I THINK THEY HAVE REFERENCE TO DOCUMENTS ON JULY.
I THINK THEY'LL PRESENT DURING THEIR SIDE OF IT AS WELL.
BUT WE HAVE EVERYTHING UP UNTIL JUNE.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY, LET THEM.
I'M CO-OWNER OF HAVANA BAR AND GRILL.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.
UM, I KNOW THIS IS A VERY, VERY IMPORTANT SITUATION HERE.
UM, FIRST I DO WANT TO ADDRESS THE GENTLEMEN AND
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LADIES WHO SPOKE.I'M A FATHER OF AN 8-YEAR-OLD CHILD.
I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THEIR CONCERNS.
UM, YOU KNOW, LIVING IN TEXAS IS ALREADY A VERY CRAZY THING WITH GUN LOWS AND THINGS LIKE THAT GOING ON.
SO THAT REALLY HIT MY HEART TO HEAR THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, WAS A BIG CONCERN OF HIS, WITH HIS CHILD SLEEPING IN A ROOM THAT FACED OUR BUSINESS.
UM, HOWEVER, I AM ONE OF THE NEWER OWNERS THAT CAME INTO HAVANA LONG AFTER A LOT OF THIS STUFF HAPPENED.
AND SINCE I'VE BEEN IN, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TALKED TO PROPERTY MANAGEMENT AND WE'VE STARTED TO MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS AND CHANGES AND THESE WERE ALREADY ONGOING LONG BEFORE WE GOT TO THIS POINT.
UM, IT IS WITH NO DOUBT THAT WE HAVE MADE GREAT STRIDES AND GREAT IMPROVEMENTS OVER THE LAST 30 DAYS.
UM, YOU'LL NOW SEE OUR FOOD SALES HAVE GONE UP 14%.
SO NOW WE'RE SITTING AT ABOUT 21% AND THAT'S BEFORE DISCOUNTS.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE MILITARY, UM, SERVICE INDUSTRY, IF THEY COME IN, WE GIVE THEM PRETTY DECENT DISCOUNTS AS WELL AS OUR STAFF GETS 20% OFF THEIR FOOD AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THAT DOES PLAY A ROLE INTO ADJUSTMENTS THERE.
I WANNA MAKE IT VERY, VERY CLEAR.
HAVANA BAR GRILL, WE ARE A RESTAURANT.
YES, I SEE THAT WE ARE GOING TO IMPROVE AND CONTINUE TO IMPROVE, BUT THE NUMBER ONE THING I WANT HAVANA BAR AND GRILL TO DO IS I WANT US TO IMPROVE ON OUR COMMUNITY RELATIONSHIPS.
IF PEOPLE DON'T FEEL SAFE NEARBY US, THEN THAT'S AN ISSUE.
I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF EVENTS THAT, YOU KNOW, WERE DISCUSSED, A LOT OF WHICH WE HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF.
THERE WAS AN INCIDENT WHERE THERE WAS SOME TYPE OF SITUATION THAT HAPPENED ON BLANCO ROAD WHERE OFFICERS DID RESPOND TO US.
I KNEW THOSE OFFICERS AND THEY SAID WAS, DID SOMETHING HAPPEN HERE? I SAID, WE ONLY HAVE ABOUT FIVE CUSTOMERS IN OUR RESTAURANT RIGHT NOW.
I DIRECTED THE OFFICERS AS SAPD HEADS FILED THEIR REPORT IN THE DIRECTION THAT MY SECURITY OUTSIDE IN THE PARKING LOT HEARD.
THEY WENT TO THOSE LOCATIONS AND FOUND SHELL CASINGS AT AN APARTMENT COMPLEX UP THE ROAD, AS WELL AS A STORAGE UNIT, THE COMPLETELY OPPOSITE DIRECTION.
NOTHING WAS FOUND IN OUR PARKING LOT AT ALL.
NO SHOOTING HAPPENED IN OUR PARKING LOT.
WE HAVE AN EXCELLENT RECORD WITH TABC, EXCELLENT RECORD WITH SAPD.
WE HAVE TRIED SO HARD OVER THESE LAST JUST 30 DAYS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY KNOWS WE ARE A RESTAURANT.
WE WANT EVERYONE TO HAVE A GOOD TIME.
THE COMMENT WAS BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE YOUNG COACH THAT WAS RECENTLY KILLED IN THAT TRAGIC ACCIDENT.
YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY THAT BAR WAS IN NO WAY, SHAPE OR FORM ABLE TO CONTROL WHAT HAPPENED THAT FAR OUTSIDE OF THE BUSINESS.
UM, WE DO HAVE SOME DOCUMENTS HERE TO SHOW YOU IN THE DIRECTION THAT I'M TAKING HAVANA BAR AND GRILL INN TO MAKE SURE THIS COMMUNITY KNOWS THAT IF YOU LIVE NEXT DOOR, THIS IS YOUR LOCAL RESTAURANT, THIS IS YOUR LOCAL BAR TO COME AND ENJOY GREAT FOOD, GREAT ENTERTAINMENT, AND GREAT CUSTOMER SERVICE.
WE ARE REDEFINING WHAT HAVANA IS.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME OF THE PAST STUFF BEFORE MY TIME AS OWNER, UM, IS THERE.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW YOU SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS TO WHERE YOU GUYS CAN REALLY SEE WHAT THE COMMUNITY'S GONNA START SEEING FROM US MOVING FORWARD.
IF YOU ALL ALLOW US TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE, UM, IN THE CITY.
IF WE COULD BRING UP THE FOOD OSA CATERING.
SO ON THE SCREEN HERE, YOU'RE SEEING JUST, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE FOOD THAT WE HAVE, WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE LAST 26 DAYS IS, I KNOW IT WAS DOCUMENTED EARLIER ABOUT EL CHISMS. WE ARE GREAT FRIENDS WITH HER BECAUSE WE WANTED ADVICE.
WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SAME BUSINESS MODEL THAT SHE HAD BEFORE THIS BUSINESS TOOK OVER, WE CAN MAKE SURE WE DID THE SAME THING.
SO WE PARTNERED WITH HER AND NOW WE OFFER CATERING SERVICES TO LOCAL BUSINESSES AS WELL.
UM, IF YOU HAVE A, YOU KNOW, CORPORATE FUNCTION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE'D ALWAYS INVITE PEOPLE IN TO TAKE, YOU KNOW, FULL ADVANTAGE OF OUR GREAT MEALS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
UM, THE OTHER ONE THERE IS THE BUSINESS CARD BEFORE THAT FOR DANIELLA FOR CATERING.
UM, THIS IS HER NEW BUSINESS CARD.
THIS WAS A LADY THAT OWNED THAT PARTICULAR SPACE RIGHT BEFORE US AND WE SAID, HEY, WE NEED TO REALLY MAKE SURE THIS COMMUNITY STILL FEELS IN TOUCH WITH WHAT THIS BUSINESS IS AND MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE A RESTAURANT, WE GET IT, WE HAVE ALCOHOL.
PEOPLE LOVE TO HAVE A COCKTAIL, BUT WE WANNA MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNOW THAT THIS IS A DINING ESTABLISHMENT, A DINING ESTABLISHMENT.
NOW OF COURSE WHERE THERE ARE ALCOHOL SALES, MYSELF BEING FROM PHILADELPHIA AND YOU KNOW, GOING TO LAW SCHOOL IN DALLAS, I AM VERY PRIVY ON THE THINGS THAT CAN HAPPEN IN ANY BAR IN ANY RESTAURANT.
AND WE'VE SEEN THOSE THINGS HAPPEN AROUND SAN ANTONIO.
SO WE CANNOT DOUBT OURSELVES ON THAT.
WE MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SECURITY IN OUR PARKING LOT IN THE EVENT THAT SOMETHING
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WAS TO TAKE PLACE.WE MAKE SURE THAT OUR CUSTOMERS ARE NOT LEAVING OVERLY INTOXICATED.
WE CHECK TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO VEHICLES LEFT IN A PARKING LOT.
WE'VE TEAMED UP WITH ORGANIZATIONS HERE IN THE SAN SAN ANTONIO AREA THAT I JUST MET WITH A FEW MONTHS AGO ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT WE PROVIDE SAFE RIDES FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD ONE OR TWO TOO MANY DRINKS.
IT HAPPENS, PEOPLE CAN BE INTOXICATED AT ANY BUSINESS IN THE WORLD THAT SERVES ALCOHOL, BUT WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PROTECTING THOSE PEOPLE AND ALSO PROTECTING THE COMMUNITY.
WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE LEAVING OUR RESTAURANT DRIVING DOWN BLANCO ROAD AND POSSIBLY INVOLVE THEMSELVES IN AN ACCIDENT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UM, SOME OF THE OTHER STATEMENTS WERE MADE THAT, YOU KNOW, CARS SCREECHING.
I HAVE BEEN AT HAVANA AS EARLY AS 11, 12 O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON.
I HAVE SEEN MUSTANGS, CAMAROS, MOTORCYCLES, ZOOM PAST SCREECHING, DOING ALL KINDS OF RECKLESS, CRAZY STUFF BEFORE OUR BUSINESS IS EVEN OPEN AT THAT TIME.
UM, WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW OUR MENU THAT WE DO HAVE, WE HAVE TWO PAGES OF THAT TO LET PEOPLE REALLY SEE THAT WE ARE A RESTAURANT.
WE 100% ARE, THESE ARE SOME OF THE MENU ITEMS WE HAVE.
WE DO HAVE SOME SPECIALS THAT WILL BE CHANGING FROM DAY TO DAY AND WEEK TO WEEK BASED ON OUR CROWD.
UM, BASED ON WHAT OUR CUSTOMERS COME IN AND TELL US.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A CUBAN SANDWICH THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SUPER EXCITED FOR BECAUSE WE ARE HAVANA BAR AND GRILL AND WE WANTED PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY GET THE TASTE OF CUBA AND THE CARIBBEAN.
WE'VE ADDED THE CUR, UH, CURRY COCONUT CHICKEN AS WELL TOO, JUST SO PEOPLE HAVE OPTIONS.
AND IF YOU CAN GO TO THAT FRONT PAGE OF THE BROCHURE, YOU WILL SEE THERE WE'RE NOW AVAILABLE ON DOORDASH, DOORDASH PERCENTAGES.
UM, THEY ESTIMATE THAT WE WOULD GO UP 44% IN OUR SALES, WHICH WE HAVE ALREADY SEEN FROM PEOPLE ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND PEOPLE ONLINE REACHING OUT SAYING, HEY, THE FOOD IS AMAZING.
WE WOULD REALLY LOVE TO PARTNER UP WITH YOU GUYS AND DO GOOD BUSINESS.
AND AGAIN, I'M A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER.
AS THE GENTLEMAN CAME UP HERE, HE'S A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER.
THERE'S SCHOOLS, THERE'S KIDS.
WE ARE WORKING DILIGENTLY DAY BY DAY BY DAY TO MAKE SURE THIS BUSINESS IS EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS INTENDED TO BE.
AND NOW ME COMING IN AS ONE OF THE NEW OWNERS, THIS IS MY GOAL.
AND WE'VE SEEN THESE SALES INCREASE.
IF YOU COULD SHOW, UM, THAT PAGE THERE WITH OUR SALES.
SO IF YOU'RE ABLE TO ZOOM IN ON THAT LITTLE, A LITTLE BIT THERE, YOU CAN LOOK AND NOW SEE THAT WHERE YOU SEE REVENUE GROUPS.
UM, AND YOU CAN SEE THE TIMEFRAME THAT THAT IS ON OUR FOOD SALES.
WHEN WE FIRST SUBMITTED THIS DOCUMENTATION, AND I'M GONNA EXTRAPOLATE A LITTLE BIT ON THE DOCUMENTATION THAT WAS PROVIDED EARLIER TO YOU AND GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARITY ON THAT.
'CAUSE I FEEL LIKE IT'S, IT WAS CONDENSED AND NOT PULLED APART.
YOU CAN SEE WE'RE NOW DOING 20.6% IN FOOD SALES.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE DO HAVE SIGNIFICANT DISCOUNTS FOR EMPLOYEES, MILITARY, UM, POLICE, FIRE DEPARTMENT, ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
THEY CAN COME IN AND ENJOY MEAL.
THEY'RE GETTING 10 TO 20% OFF AT ANY TIME.
SO THAT WILL SKEW OUR NUMBERS.
NOW GOING BACK TO THE NUMBERS THAT WAS ORIGINALLY PRESENTED, ORIGINALLY PRESENTED AT SIX AND SEVEN AND 8%.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IT KNOWN THAT IF YOU LOOK AT OUR NUMBERS ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS, DURING THOSE SIX MONTHS, WE WERE DOING ABOUT 45% IN SALES DAILY.
OUR WEEKENDS, OF COURSE, BECAUSE IT'S THE WEEKEND, PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING NEW AND EXCITING.
AND THIS BUSINESS IS NEW AND EXCITING.
WE GOT A LOT MORE TRAFFIC, WHICH WERE TRUMPING OUR SALES DURING THE WEEK.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'VE ALWAYS MADE SURE THAT WE WERE OPERATING FOOD FORWARD FIRST.
WE HAVE CONTINUED TO MAKE GREAT RELATIONSHIPS AND DIFFERENT BUSINESSES THROUGHOUT THE CITY FROM USAA TO PEDIATRIC HOME HEALTH AGENCIES TO HOSPITAL TO START CATERING AND DOING THEIR FUNCTIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR SALES STAY WHERE THEY NEED TO BE.
AND THAT WILL DETER ANY KIND OF ISSUES THAT WE EVER HAVE ON THE PROPERTY, WHICH WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY SAPD AGAIN, AND TBC HAVE GIVEN US A CLEAN BILL OF HEALTH IN TERMS OF WHAT'S HAPPENED IN AND AROUND OUR AREA.
WE HAVE BEEN THE ONES SOMETIME WHO HAVE CALLED THE POLICE AND SAID, HEY, WE NOTICED SOMETHING SUSPICIOUS THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR BUSINESS.
AND SAPD HAS VERIFIED, HEY, YOU GUYS WERE A BIG HELP AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, IF WE COULD ALSO LOOK AT SOME OF THE SOCIAL MEDIA CONTENT.
AS YOU CAN SEE HERE ON FRIDAY NIGHTS, WE OFFER WINE AND CHEESE PACKAGES AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BRINGING A CROWD OUT, THAT THE COMMUNITY FEELS BETTER ABOUT.
THE COMMUNITY ACTUALLY WILL FEEL WELCOMED AND INVITED.
SO WINE PACKAGES, CHARCUTERIE BOARDS, ALL TYPES OF DIFFERENT FOOD OFFERINGS THAT WE HAVE FOR GUESTS TO COME IN, COUPLES TO COME IN AND REALLY GET A TASTE OF WHAT HAVANA BAR AND GRILL HAS.
YOU CAN CLICK TO THE NEXT ONE.
UM, WE ALSO, DURING THE TIME WE'RE, YOU KNOW, 4TH OF JULY, PEOPLE WANTED BARBECUE.
WE ARE SUCH A MODULAR KITCHEN.
OUR, OUR KITCHEN IS PROBABLY ABOUT AS LARGE AS THIS ROOM.
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ABLE TO CHANGE WHAT WE COOK ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS TO MATCH THE NEEDS OF OUR CROWD AND OUR COMMUNITY.AND WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TODAY.
WE HAD GREAT BARBECUE DISHES THAT EVERYONE REALLY, REALLY, REALLY ENJOYED AND THAT WERE TO GO TAKE HOME AND ALL OF THAT.
HERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE DID THE OTHER DAY.
WE ALSO NOW STARTED OFFERING DOLLAR WINGS ON WEDNESDAYS TO BRING PEOPLE IN A LITTLE BIT EARLIER SO THEY COULD REALLY GET A TASTE OF EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE TO OFFER, OFFER AS A RESTAURANT.
UM, AGAIN, FOOD PRICES OPERATING AT A RESTAURANT IS VERY, VERY DIFFICULT.
SO WE'VE TRIED TO MAKE SURE OUR LIQUOR PRICES ARE NOT HIGH, MAKE SURE THEY'RE AFFORDABLE FOR EVERYONE AND REALLY MAKE SURE OUR FOOD IS AT THE BEST ABSOLUTE BEST QUALITY IN SERVICE.
CISCO, WE ARE SPENDING TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS A MONTH ON CISCO, AND THAT'S A FOOD DELIVERY COMPANY THAT WE GET EVERYTHING FROM, FROM OUR GARNISHES TO OUR DESSERTS, TO OUR FRESH WINGS, GROUND BEEF AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER FOOD SLIDE.
THIS IS THE ADVERTISEMENT VERSUS WHAT YOU SAW EARLIER IS THAT I AM GOING FOR AS NEW OWNER, THIS IS PROMOTING A RESTAURANT.
THIS IS PROMOTING SAFETY, SECURITY AND SOMETHING THAT COMMUNITY CAN COME AND FEEL ABSOLUTELY SAFE.
AND WELCOME TO, UM, THESE PACKAGES ARE AVAILABLE ON DOORDASH AS OF THIS VERY SECOND.
YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND ORDER FROM HAVANA BAR AND GRILL IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE ALSO WOULD LOVE TO REALLY FALL ON OUR OWN SWORD AND SAY, HEY, COMMUNITY, WHATEVER YOU SAW IN THE PAST MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN ACCURATE, BUT MOVING FORWARD, WE ARE HERE FOR YOU.
LET US GET TO KNOW WHO YOU ARE.
COME AND GET TO KNOW WHO WE ARE AND WHAT WE'RE ABOUT.
TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE NOT SOME RANDOM, CRAZY NIGHTCLUB OR SOME CRAZY BAR THAT'S NOT BEING WELL MAINTAINED AND MONITORED.
WE ARE A RESTAURANT AND WE'RE A COMMUNITY RESTAURANT.
CALL US CHEERS IF YOU WANT TO.
THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GONNA STRIVE TO BECOME.
AND THIS IS THE NEW SOCIAL MEDIA PACKAGING AND THINGS THAT EVERYONE WILL START TO SEE UNDER MY CO-OWNERSHIP.
THERE WAS ONE MORE KITCHEN STAFF PICTURE THERE.
THIS IS ANOTHER PHOTO OF JUST OUR KITCHEN STAFF GETTING READY FOR A, A PRETTY LARGE EVENT.
I THINK THIS EVENT ACTUALLY GROSSED ABOUT $2,000 IN SALES, JUST IN THE PREPARATION OF FOOD, UM, FOR A COMPANY.
WE HAVE LOTS OF PRIVATE EVENTS, LOTS OF BIRTHDAY PARTIES.
UM, PEOPLE SOMETIMES DON'T EVEN COME INTO HAVANA.
THEY GO IN A PARKING LOT, THEY CALL IN THEIR ORDER.
AND THAT FOOD IS BROUGHT OUT TO 'EM FRESH AND HOT RIGHT AWAY.
AND THIS IS WHAT YOU WILL SEE DISPLAYED RIGHT AT THE FRONT AS YOU WALK INTO HAVANA.
WE ARE OFFERING FOOD, WE'RE OFFERING COCKTAILS, WE'RE OFFERING FUN, WE'RE OFFERING A COMMUNITY EXPERIENCE.
AND WE WANT ANYONE WHO HAS NEVER BEEN INTO HAVANA GIVE US A CHANCE, GIVE ME A CHANCE AT LEAST TO SHOW THAT I CAN TURN THIS BUSINESS AROUND.
I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDS THAT WE ARE HERE FOR THEM.
THAT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO BE ADVERSARIES, WE ARE TRYING TO BE A TEAM.
AND WHATEVER THAT MEANS WE NEED TO DO, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO GET IT DONE.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, I, UH, THIS IS LON CULBERTSON.
UH, AND THANK YOU FOR COMING HERE.
UH, SO JUST LOOKING AT THE TIMELINE AND YOU KNOW, MYSELF COMING IN, I, I UNDERSTAND BOTH SIDES AND JUST WHAT I'VE HEARD TODAY IS REALLY ALL I KNOW.
SO I, I WAS SEEING A TIMELINE OF SEPTEMBER OF 2023 WITH THE NAME CHANGE TO THE CURRENT NAME AND THEN SOME OF THE, UM, RECENT EVENTS, WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE BAR.
WE DON'T KNOW THAT WE JUST, BUT, BUT IT SEEMS THAT THE CHANGE OF NAME WAS SEPTEMBER LAST YEAR, AND THIS IS LIKE WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS ARE THESE ISSUES.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SPEAK TO THAT.
AND WHEN YOU CAME ABOARD, UH, THE COMPANY, SO AROUND DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR, I HAD BECAME NOTIFIED ABOUT HAVANA BAR AND GRILL.
YOU KNOW, I OWNED ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, ESTABLISHMENT IN THE CITY AT THE TIME.
SO I SAID, OKAY, THIS LOOKS LIKE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.
AND THAT WAS SOME OF THE NAMES YOU SAW DEAR JORDAN MCCOOK, WHO IS NO LONGER WITH THE BUSINESS.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN I CAME IN, THEY WERE ASKING ME FOR HELP AND JUST UNDERSTANDING HOW TO, YOU KNOW, RUN A RESTAURANT NIGHT, UH, VENUE, BAR, BUSINESS, ALL OF THAT.
THAT'S MY BACKGROUND, A LITTLE BIT OF MY EXPERTISE.
SO WHEN I CAME ON BOARD AND JUST IN TERMS OF HELPING THEM, I SAID, OKAY, THIS IS GOOD.
AND THEN I STEPPED BACK, STEPPED AWAY
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AND LET THEM CONTINUE TO DO THEIR OWN THING.AND AROUND THE BEGINNING OF, I WOULD SAY IT WAS MARCH, I CAME BACK AROUND AND SAID, HEY, THIS IS, THIS IS AN INTERESTING PROJECT THAT YOU GUYS HAVE AND I WOULD LOVE TO HELP.
UM, IT WAS ABOUT APRIL WHEN WE FINALLY CAME TO SOME TYPE OF AGREEMENT FOR ME TO COME ON BOARD.
BUT I STILL OWNED ANOTHER BUSINESS AT THE TIME THAT DEMANDED A LOT OF MY TIME.
SO I WASN'T INVESTED A HUNDRED PERCENT.
UM, AS I STARTED TO BECOME PRIVY OF THE PREVIOUS ISSUES AND THINGS THAT THE BUSINESS DIDN'T SEEM TO HAVE THE PROPER IDENTITY IS WHEN WE WORKED WITH OUR PROPERTY MANAGER AND SAID, HOW CAN WE REDEFINE THIS BUSINESS? SO AGAIN, BEFORE ANY OF THIS EVER CAME UP, WE WERE ALREADY IN THE WORKS TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS WAS UNDERSTOOD TO BE A RESTAURANT WITH A LOUNGE AND IT HAS BAR SALES.
THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING FOR AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING FOR THE PAST.
UM, THREE TO FOUR MONTHS WAS WHEN I WAS REALLY, REALLY IN THE NECK OF THIS MAKING CHANGES.
AND AGAIN, I DO SEE THAT YOU'RE SEEING SALES AT SIX AND SEVEN AND 8%, BUT IF WE WERE TO EXTRAPOLATE THAT AND YOU WOULD LOOK ON PAPER, YOU WOULD SEE TUESDAYS, 40% WEDNESDAYS, 38% FRIDAYS 62% FOOD SALES.
BUT THEN THE WEEKEND COMES AROUND, PEOPLE WANNA DO BRUNCH, THEY WANT CHAMPAGNE, MIMOSAS, ALL THOSE SORT OF THINGS.
ALCOHOL SALES OF COURSE SPIKE A LITTLE BIT TRUMPING THE OTHER DAYS, THE OTHER DAYS OF THE WEEK.
BUT WE'VE MADE ADJUSTMENTS TO THAT.
WE KNOW WE'VE LOOKED AT THE METHOD THAT PEOPLE USE DURING COVID, MAKING SURE THAT WHEN PEOPLE COME IN, THEY GET TWO DRINKS, YOU NEED TO PURCHASE A FOOD ITEM.
ONE, IT KEEPS THE CUSTOMERS SAFE.
ONE, IT KEEPS US IN COMPLIANCE AND IN CODE COMPLIANCE WITH YOU ALL.
AND ALSO IT MAKES SURE THAT WHEN OUR CUSTOMERS LEAVE, THEY'RE NOT LEAVING INTOXICATED.
THEY HAVE FOOD IN THEIR SYSTEM AND WE ARE STILL MAINTAINING WHAT WE ARE.
SO HOPEFULLY THAT EXPLAINED A LITTLE BIT OF THAT FOR YOU.
UM, YOU NOTED RECENTLY THAT YOUR FOOD SALES, UH, HAVE GONE UP.
YOU, YOU PRESENTED THOSE FIGURES, CORRECT.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
BUT YOU ALSO NOTED THAT YOU'RE NOW ALSO DOING CATERING.
SO I'M CURIOUS AS TO, UH, JUST OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THAT INCREASE IN SALES IS RELATED TO YOUR CATERING BUSINESS WHERE THE PEOPLE AREN'T NECESSARILY IN THE ESTABLISHMENT? MM-HMM.
AND NOT THE JULY 4TH PACKAGES THAT PEOPLE ARE PICKING UP AND GOING HOME.
SO TO CLARIFY ON THAT, WE'VE HAD PEOPLE THAT COME IN FOR BIRTHDAY PARTIES WHEN YOU COME IN FOR A LARGE EVENT OR YOU HAVE A LARGE PARTY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IT AUTOMATICALLY GOES TO OUR CATERING PORTION OF THE BUSINESS BECAUSE OF HOW WE HAVE TO MAKE THE QUANTITY OF FOOD.
SO WE GIVE YOU PRICES BASED ON A CATERING PACKAGE.
IF YOU ALL DECIDE TO COME IN TODAY, WE'RE GONNA CONSIDER THIS TO BE A CATERING PACKAGE.
SO WE ARE GONNA TELL OUR KITCHEN STAFF, HEY, WE HAVE A GROUP OF 20 GENTLEMEN.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THIS MUCH OF THIS FOOD.
SO WE PACKAGE IT A CERTAIN WAY, WHICH IS CONSIDERATE THE CATERING SIDE IN HOUSE.
SO ALL THOSE FOODS, UH, THOSE, THOSE DISHES THAT YOU SEE WERE BEING PREPARED, THOSE WERE TAKEN INSIDE TO THE OTHER SIDE OF OUR BAR AND OTHER SIDE OF OUR RESTAURANT, SO CUSTOMERS COULD EAT THEM.
AND THEN WE PUT IT OUT ON DISPLAYS, YOU KNOW, WE LAY THEM OUT.
BUT WE DO CONSIDER THAT TO BE A PART OF THE CATERING BECAUSE IT'S VERY HARD AS THE RESTAURANT STRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE IN THE BACK TO JUST MAKE 40 OR 50 PEOPLE DIFFERENT DISHES THAT'S IN ONE PARTICULAR PARTY.
SO WE TRY TO, YOU KNOW, HONE THAT IN AND SAY, HEY, IF Y'ALL WANT ENCHILADAS, YOU ALL WANT WINGS, Y'ALL WANT BIT TACOS, LET'S PUT TOGETHER THIS CATERING PACKAGE FOR YOU.
BUT IT DOES STAY INHOUSE AND YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME, OF COURSE, TO ORDER THAT AND TAKE IT TO GO AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, THAT'S BEEN AN INCREASE OF OUR SALES.
WELL, SO I WOULD SAY ABOUT, UM, THAT $2,000 DEAL THAT WE DID HAVE, THAT WAS ALL IN HOUSE.
THEY, THEY HAD A BIRTHDAY PARTY.
WE SUPPLIED ALL THAT FOOD, WE COOKED IT IN THE BACK, MADE SURE IT WAS DONE, AND THEY ENJOYED THAT MEAL ON PREMISE.
SPENCER RAMSDALE, IT SHOWS THAT YOU ARE OPEN TILL 2:00 AM IS YOUR KITCHEN OPEN TILL 2:00 AM? YES, SIR.
OUR KITCHEN DOES NOT STOP SERVING FOOD UNTIL 2:00 AM PERIOD.
SO THE ONLY THING THAT CAN POTENTIALLY HAPPEN THAT WILL SLOW SOMETHING DOWN IS BECAUSE WE'RE MAKING ALL OF OUR FOOD FRESH AND WE STILL HAVE TO HAVE TIME TO KEEP OUR KITCHEN CLEAN.
WE'LL DO LIKE A FOOD CALL AT LIKE ONE FORTY FIVE.
THE KITCHEN WILL STILL BE OPEN.
YOU CAN STILL GET LIGHT SNACKS, BUT IF YOU ARE ORDERING SOMETHING HEAVIER LIKE TACOS OR WINGS, IT TAKES ABOUT 15 TO 20 MINUTES TO MAKE THOSE.
SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THEY'RE FRESH UP TO TEMPERATURE AND THINGS LIKE THAT BEFORE WE STOP FOOD SALES AT TWO.
BUT AT NO POINT IN TIME IS SAVANNAH OPEN WITHOUT THE KITCHEN AT NO POINT IN TIME.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO I HAVE A MINOR QUESTION.
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TOOK OVER IN DECEMBER, IS THAT CORRECT? NO, NO, NO.I CAME IN ON DECEMBER BECAUSE THEY WERE JUST REQUESTING HELP.
THEY WERE NEW TO THE RESTAURANT AND BAR BUSINESS.
SO I CAME IN MORE AS JUST A CONSULTANT, NOT AS ACTUAL OWNER CAME IN ON ABOUT THREE OR FOUR MONTHS AGO.
SO ALL THE NUMBERS YOU SHOWED US WERE BASED ON WHAT MONTHS, JEREMY? THOSE MONTHS WERE APRIL THROUGH JUNE.
SO THAT'S SINCE YOU'VE BEEN TAKING OVER.
THAT'S A LITTLE BIT BEFORE MY TIME.
SOME OF THAT IS A LITTLE BIT BEFORE MY TIME.
AND YOU CAME IN DECEMBER OF 23? NO, NO, NO.
I CAME IN JUST AS I ALREADY OWNED MY OWN COMPANY AND MY OWN BUSINESS IN DECEMBER.
I HEARD ABOUT THE BUSINESS AND THE BUSINESS OWNERS AT THE TIME NEEDED ASSISTANCE.
I JUST SIMPLY CAME IN AS A CONSULTANT.
AND YOUR HOURS LOOK DIFFERENT THAN HIS HOURS.
HIS HOURS WERE FROM 12 TO TWO AND YOURS SHOWED SIX TO TWO.
I THINK THAT'S JUST GOOGLE SHOWING THAT.
I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER UPDATED THAT OR MAYBE ON FACEBOOK, BUT OUR HOURS MOVING FORWARD IS 12:00 PM TILL 2:00 AM SO WE'RE OPEN FOR LUNCH.
SO WHEN Y'ALL MAKE Y'ALL'S DETERMINATION, IS IT BASED ON SO MANY MONTHS OF REVENUE? AND THAT'S WHERE THE DETERMINATION IS JEREMY, THAT'S IN THE UDC.
UM, THERE, THERE IS NO HARD AND FAST RULE ON THAT.
SO IT IS INTERPRETATION OF THE CODE ON HOW TO LOOK AT THAT.
UH, IT DOESN'T SAY THIS IS SPREAD OVER A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME.
UM, YOU KNOW, SO, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD TRY TO DO THAT OVER A LENGTH OF TIME.
UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE WE HAD FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS OF DATA THAT WENT BACK TO, YOU KNOW, BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR AND THEY HAD OPENED UP IN SEPTEMBER.
SO IT WAS ABOUT 50% OF THE TIME THAT THEY WERE OPEN WHAT DAY WE WERE USING.
BUT, BUT THE UDC DOES NOT SPECIFY, UH, WHAT THAT DURATION IS.
UH, SO IF IT WAS A WEEKLY THING, YEAH.
IF IT'S A MONTHLY THING OR IF IT'S AN ANNUAL THING, IT DOESN'T SPECIFY WHICH ONE IT SHOULD BE.
AND I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT, UH, CHAIRMAN, BUT COULD YOU ALSO SHOW HIM THAT LAST SLIDE SO THAT WAY EVERYONE DOES UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE LIVE ACTIVELY ON DOORDASH AS WELL TOO? I THINK IT'S, UM, JUST SO Y'ALL CAN SEE HERE, THIS IS ACCURATE IN REAL TIME.
WE ARE AVAILABLE ON, YOU KNOW, PLATFORMS AND WHERE YOU CAN ORDER FOOD TO YOUR BUSINESS OR YOUR HOME OR, UM, OR COME PICK UP AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
I JUST WANTED TO SHOW Y'ALL, SO Y'ALL HAD TRANSPARENCY.
THE PHOTO SHOOT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING TODAY, SO THEY CAN UPDATE SOME OF OUR FOOD ITEMS SO THEY CAN UPLOAD THEM, UM, AND GET THOSE DONE.
IT'S PROBABLY HAPPENING AS WE SPEAK, ACTUALLY.
SO JUST WANTED TO SHOW Y'ALL THAT FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE TRANSPARENCY.
MARK ROSS, I, I HAVE A QUESTION.
UM, FOR OUR STAFF ATTORNEY IN CALCULATING THE PERCENTAGES, LET'S SAY MONDAY, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY, FRIDAY AND SUNDAY, THEY ARE WITHIN THE FOOD SALES DEAL.
AND THEN ON SATURDAY THE ALCOHOL IS SALES ARE SO HIGH, IT DROWNS ALL THAT OUT.
IS THERE A DEFINITION WITHIN THE CODE ON HOW TO CALCULATE WHAT THE PERCENTAGE IS TO GET TO THE 75? IS IT A MONTHLY, IS IT OVER A MONTH? IS IT OVER SIX MONTHS? IS IT BY THE DAY IF FIVE OUT OF THE SIX DAYS THEY'RE IN LINE AND ONE DAY THEY'RE OUT, BUT THAT CAUSES IT TO BE OUTTA LINE? THIS IS, UH, JOSEPH ARNEY, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
NICE TO MEET YOU, MR. UH, ROSS? I'M, I'M NOT SURE.
I'M NOT, UH, THERE'S NOTHING IN THE CODE THAT THAT DELINEATES IT TO, TO THAT DEGREE.
A LOT OF THIS IS, UM, STEMS FROM TABC.
UM, SO I THINK TBC IS A MONTHLY CALCULATION.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY, THAT GOES INTO, YOU KNOW, BREAKING IT UP IN, IN ANY, YOU KNOW, SMALLER SEGMENTS.
IF YOU'RE WILLING TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION, I'LL MAKE A MOTION IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS.
I MOVE THAT, UH, WE REAFFIRM THE CITY'S RIGHT, UH, TO REVOKE A C OF O IF IT'S NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CODE, WHICH IS I THINK THE ISSUE ON THE AGENDA BEFORE US, WE HAVE A MOTION TO STAND WITH THE CITY ON THEIR REVOCATION OF THE CFO.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? THIS IS WILLIAM BURRIS.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND BY MR. HANLEY AND MR. BURS, ANY DISCUSSION? UH, YEAH, THIS IS LON.
UH, SO I'M, I'M JUST A LITTLE PUZZLED BY THE PROCESS.
SO I WANT TO ASK FOR CLARITY FOR EVERYONE.
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AND, AND MAYBE IT'S NOT UNDERSTOOD BY THE OWNER THAT WE'RE, WHAT'S REALLY AT THE QUESTION, THE HEART OF THE MATTER FOR US TO CONSIDER.DOES THE CITY HAVE THIS AUTHORITY? AND SO I JUST WANTED TO ALLOW SOME CONVERSATION IF THERE NEEDS TO BE ON THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN HOW, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CITIZENS HAVE COME FORWARD AND THE OWNER HAS COME FORWARD KIND OF LOOKING FOR ONE SIDE TO BE PICKED TO SOME DEGREE OR SOME KIND OF JUSTICE.
BUT THIS IS A, THIS IS A DIFFERENT QUESTION.
UH, LON, THIS IS ROBERT HANLEY.
AGAIN, THE, THE WAY I LOOK AT THIS IS WHEN THE APPLICANT IMPROVES TO BE CODE COMPLIANT.
UM, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, JOSEPH AND JEREMY, BUT THEY CAN REAPPLY FOR C OF O.
IS THAT CORRECT, GENTLEMEN? YES, CORRECT.
AND I THINK TO GO BACK TO WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, OUR QUESTION IS NOT, UH, DO YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO DO SOMETHING? ARE YOU RIGHT? ARE YOU MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION? OURS IS, IS MORE OBJECTIVE TO SAY CURRENTLY YOU'RE NOT WITHIN THE GUIDELINES OF THE CODE.
AND SO WE ARE AFFIRMING THE RIGHT OF IF WE VOTE YES OF THE CITY TO REVOKE IT BECAUSE OF THE 75% PERIOD.
IF YOU CAME IN HERE WITH THE FIGURES THAT SAID, OKAY, WE'RE NOW IN COMP, YOU KNOW, WE, IT WOULD'VE BEEN, IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A DIFFERENT DISCUSSION.
IF YOU WOULD'VE THIS CURRENT MONTH, YOUR FIGURE WOULD'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, AND, AND YOUR 60% ALCOHOL, 40% FOOD, THEN IT'S A, THEN THAT BECOMES A LITTLE MORE GRAY AREA.
BUT THE FIGURES YOU PROVIDED STILL SAY YOU'RE ABOVE THE 75%.
AND I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A CHOICE BUT TO AFFIRM THE CITY'S RIGHT TO REVOKE THE C OF O IF I MAY SPEAK.
WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS AN OPPORTUNITY.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN ISSUE WHERE YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT BLACK AND WHITE.
THIS IS THE NUMBERS, BUT I'M LOOKING AT IT FROM PERSPECTIVE.
I JUST CAME ON BOARD AS OWNER NOT TOO LONG AGO.
WE'VE MADE DRAMATIC, DRAMATIC CHANGES SINCE BEING ISSUED THIS, UH, INTENT TO REV RELOCATE, UM, TO TODAY.
WE'VE MADE SIGNIFICANT STRIDES TO SELL 11,000 PLUS DOLLARS WORTH OF FOOD FROM THE DAY WE GOT THIS TILL NOW HAS BEEN A DRAMATIC IMPROVEMENT.
WE WANTED TO BE TRANSPARENT, HONEST, AND SHOW YOU EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE NOW.
ANOTHER THREE OR 4% WOULD'VE BEEN A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE FIGHTING FOR THAT.
THAT'S WHY WE NOW HAVE THE DELIVERY SERVICES FOR PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT, YOU KNOW, DON'T WANT TO COME OR THEY LIVE TOO FAR.
THEY'VE HAD OUR FOOD BEFORE, BUT THEY LIVE TOO FAR.
YOU KNOW, DOORDASH IS ESSENTIALLY SAYING, YOUR SALES ARE GONNA GROW UP, GO UP ON AVERAGE OF 44%.
THAT WILL PUT US BACK INTO THAT 40% RANGE ON A 30 DAY BASIS THAT, YOU KNOW, HE DISCUSSED.
TABC IS GONNA BE LOOKING AT, UM, WE ARE HERE TO BE IN COMPLIANCE.
WE'RE HERE TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
AND AS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER, THIS IS WHERE I'M AT.
I'M STANDING BEFORE YOU ASKING FOR A CHANCE TO CONTINUE TO DO THIS.
YOU KNOW, WE WERE GIVEN A VERY LIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME TO REALLY, UM, JUMP ON THESE THINGS.
AGAIN, AT THE FORMATION OF THIS BUSINESS.
I WAS NOT OWNER, I WAS NOT SURE HOW THIS BUSINESS WAS LICENSED, CODED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
NOW THAT I AM THAT HAVE COME ON BOARD AND GETTING THESE DETAILS AND INFORMATION, I HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, HEAD OVER HEELS TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS GETS TAKEN CARE OF.
SO I WOULD APPRECIATE ANY FURTHER CONVERSATION AS WELL.
UH, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR JEREMY.
THE, UH, DEFINITION OF TAVERN, IS THAT A, UH, CITY CHAPTER 35? THAT IS CORRECT.
THANK YOU, JEREMY, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, CODE ENFORCEMENT HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THIS, THE OWNERSHIP FOR SO MANY MONTHS? UH, YES.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM FOR SEVERAL MONTHS AND THAT'S WHY WE, UH, BROUGHT THEM IN TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT THE SITUATION.
I DO SEE THAT THEY'VE MADE SOME TYPE OF IMPROVEMENTS, BUT IT'S STILL, YOU KNOW, OPERATING OUTSIDE OF OUR DEFINITIONS, UH, FOR A RESTAURANT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? GO AHEAD.
I HAVE DOORDASH AND I JUST SEARCHED AND IT SAYS WE'RE ABLE TO REQUEST IT SHALL JOIN DOORDASH, BUT THAT Y'ALL DON'T, Y'ALL ARE NOT AN ACTIVE PROVIDER.
IT SHOULD BE COMPLETELY LIVE RIGHT NOW AS WE'VE BEEN INFORMED.
I THINK THE ONLY THING THAT NEEDS TO BE UPLOADED IS JUST THE PHOTOS AS OF TODAY.
SO MAYBE IT JUST MAY JUST BE THE PHOTOS THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN PLACE FIRST BEFORE THEY ACTUALLY MAKE IT LIVE.
BUT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ALREADY
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CONSIDERED LIVE.AND I WOULD MAKE THE ASSERTION THAT DOORDASH IS NOT FOOD CONSUMED ON THE PREMISES.
IT MAY BE LIKE OUTSIDE CATERING, BUT I THINK THAT'S A CITY AND THAT'S JUST, I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYBODY ELSE IS KEEPING IT THAT WAY EITHER.
SO MAYBE WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE NEXT CODE CYCLE, WE CAN DO A FEW MORE DEFINITIONS TO MAKE IT MORE OBJECTIVE STANDARDS.
BUT I, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE A CHOICE.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE.
IF THE CITY HAS SAID THEY WANT TO INTENT TO REVOKE THE C OF O, IF THEY WANT TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE FOR A MONTH OR TWO TO GET IN COMPLIANCE, THAT WOULD BE UP TO THEM.
WHAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO DO IS OVERRULE THE CODE OFFICIAL'S INTENT, WHICH WE REALLY DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT, I MEAN, WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO, BUT WE REALLY CAN'T DO BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE.
IS THERE ANY WAY WE COULD GET 30 DAYS TO SHOW, CONTINUE TO SHOW THAT WE ARE UPWARD IN COMPLIANCE SO THAT WAY WE CAN REEVALUATE THIS, AT LEAST GIVE US THE TIME TO DO SO AS A BUSINESS? AMIN, COULD YOU SPEAK TO THAT PLEASE? YES.
AMIN THOMAS DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
SO WHAT'S MEET'S BEFORE THE BOARD RIGHT NOW IS REALLY THE CITY BUILDING OFFICIAL ISSUED A LETTER OF INTENT TO REVOKE THE CFO.
AND, UH, APPLICANT IS APPEALING THAT YOUR DECISION IS EITHER YOU WITHHOLD THE DECISION OR YOU GIVE THEM, UH, OR, OR YOU GO AGAINST THE CITY.
REALLY, THE DECISION IS NOT IF THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE TODAY OR NOT.
AT THE TIME WE ISSUED THE LETTER, THEY WERE NOT IN COMPLIANCE AND THEY'RE APPEALING THAT DECISION.
LONG, DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? NO, IT'S, UH, IT'S A DIFFICULT, UH, YEAH, IT'S JUST DIFFICULT.
BUT, UH, AND I I I WANTED TO SAY TWO THINGS.
I GUESS THAT WHEN WE GET TO THIS MAYBE UP UPGRADING THE DEFINITION OF TAVERN, A COUPLE OF THINGS.
ONE, IF THE AVERAGE ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY KNOCKS YOU OUT OF THE PARK, THAT'S KIND OF A PROBLEM FOR WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
I, I, I THINK THAT'S HOW I SEE IT.
AND, AND THE OTHER IS THE DOORDASH IS THAT'S NOT GONNA HELP THE CUSTOMERS THAT ARE IN THE, UM, PLACE HAVING A DRINK OR TWO.
THAT'S, IT'S KIND OF NOT IN THE EQUATION.
SO I THINK WE NEED TO CONSIDER BOTH THOSE, YOU KNOW, IN THE, FOR THE FUTURE, NOT THAT IT IMPACTS WHAT WE DECIDE HERE TODAY.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WE HAVE A MOTION SECOND, OR FOR THE REVOCATION OF THE CFO BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED.
SO, CHAIR, JUST FOR POINT OF CLARIFICATION, I BELIEVE THE, THE APPEAL WAS FOR, UM, INTENT TO, THE INTENT TO REVOKE THE INTENT TO REVOKE.
SO THE, THE EYES ARE SITING WITH THE CITY, CORRECT? YES.
STANDING WITH THE CITY'S DECISION TO REVOKE THE C OF O BASED ON THE INFORMATION THEY PROVIDED.
THAT CONCLUDES OUR AGENDA ITEMS FOR TODAY.
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IS A STAFF REPORT.UM, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THE 2023 NEC AND THE 2024 I CODES.
I KNOW WE MENTIONED THIS BACK IN MARCH IN OUR LAST MEETING, UH, THE STAFF STAFF WAS LOOKING AT MOVING FORWARD, UH, WITH THAT ADOPTION PROCESS.
WE HAVE, UH, RAMPED THAT UP AND ARE MOVING, UH, QUICKLY INTO THAT.
CURRENTLY, UH, INTERNAL STAFF HAS STARTED THE REVIEWS.
UH, WE'VE, UH, GONE THROUGH THE IPC, WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE IMC.
WE STARTED UP THE IFC AND GONNA CONTINUE WITH THE IBC AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING INTERNAL REVIEWS WITH CITY STAFF TO LOOK AT ALL THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS, UH, I'M SORRY, ALL THE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES THAT WERE MADE BETWEEN 2021 AND 2024, AS WELL AS ALL THE ADOPTED AMENDMENTS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE TO SEE IF THEY'RE STILL VALID, UH, TO CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD.
UH, WE ARE, WE'VE PURCHASED ALL THE BOOKS.
WE'RE WAITING ON THE IRCS TO ARRIVE, SO WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO AN INTERNAL, UH, WITH THE IRC, BUT HOPEFULLY IT'LL ARRIVE THIS WEEK, EARLY NEXT WEEK.
ONCE THAT'S DONE, WE'LL HAVE ALL OF THE BOOKS FOR THE BOARD AS WELL.
UH, SO WE'LL DIVVY THOSE OUT AND HAVE THEM READY TO GO.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, I KNOW THE LAST MEETING WAS IN MARCH WAS TO DISCUSS OUR SUBCOMMITTEES, UH, FOR THIS BOARD AND HOW THAT PROCESS WILL WORK.
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WHICH IS A SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE COUNCIL.FIVE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL SIT ON THAT.
THEY APPROVED US GOING TO COUNCIL FOR COUNCIL APPROVAL.
OF THOSE PROPOSED CHANGES OF, UH, SUBCOMMITTEES, UH, BOTH.
MOSTLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THERE IS ALLOWING NON APPOINTED BOARD MEMBERS, UH, TO SIT ON THOSE SUBCOMMITTEES UP TO FOUR.
SO IF THE BOARD HAS FOUR, THEN ONLY THREE, UH, NON APPOINTED MEMBERS, WE COULD BE ON THERE AND THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO VOTE AND THEY WOULD COUNT TOWARDS QUORUM.
UH, SO THOSE WERE THE PROPOSED CHANGES THAT, UH, THE BOARD APPROVED BACK IN MARCH.
UH, PCDC APPROVED US TO TAKE THAT TO COUNCIL.
COUNCIL SHOULD BE SEEING THAT, UH, LISTENING TO THAT ON AUGUST 8TH.
SO ON AS OF AUGUST 8TH, IF EVERYTHING GETS APPROVED, AND THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE SUBCOMMITTEES.
HOPEFULLY WE HAVE ALL THEIR BOOKS.
SO MY GOAL IS TO TRY TO SCHEDULE A MEETING, UH, FOR ALL, UH, PRIMARY AND ALTERNATE BOARD MEMBERS, UH, TO JOIN US HERE, UH, REVIEW THAT.
WE'LL DISCUSS A SCHEDULE FOR ADOPTING THE CODES, AND, UH, DEVELOP OUR SUBCOMMITTEES, HAND OUT THE BOOKS AND START THAT PROCESS.
SO THAT SHOULD BE MID AUGUST, IS THE GOAL WITH MEETING STARTING UP IN SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER TIMEFRAME.
UM, WHAT ABOUT APPOINTING THE REST OF THE BOARD? BECAUSE I THINK THAT HAS TO HAPPEN BEFORE WE EVEN START THIS PROCESS, BECAUSE I JUST THINK THERE'S ALL THESE SLOTS THAT ARE VACANT, VACANT, VACANT, VACANT, AND I THINK IT DOES ALL OF US A DISSERVICE WHEN THOSE SLOTS ARE NOT FILLED AND THAT EXPERTISE.
SO WILL THAT BE DONE BEFORE WE HAVE ANY OF THE MEETINGS? AND I WOULD STRONGLY URGE THAT THAT HAPPENED PRIOR TO THAT FACT.
UM, I'LL GET WITH MY LEADERSHIP AND SEE IF WE CAN DO IT.
UNFORTUNATELY, THAT RUNS THROUGH OUR CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, AND I'M KIND OF BEHOLDING ON THEM TO BE ABLE TO GET, UM, SOME POSITIONS.
ALSO, WE ARE WORKING TO TRY TO FILL THOSE POSITIONS FROM THE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS.
I KNOW OUR SIGN INDUSTRY, I HAVE TWO APPLICANTS FOR THAT, BUT I STILL HAVEN'T RECEIVED, UM, ANYBODY ON ANY OF THOSE OTHER ONES, EVEN THOUGH WE'VE GONE TO A-B-C-A-G-C FOR OUR GENERAL CONTRACTORS.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY THIS LAST WEEK WE ACTUALLY LOST ANOTHER BOARD MEMBER, UM, AN ALTERNATE TO OUR, UM, ELECTRICAL ENGINEER.
I A, UH, IN OUR MEETING WITH THEM AS, AS THE ORGANIZATION, THAT USUALLY BRINGS US FORWARD, UH, CONSIDERATIONS FOR THAT.
UH, ADDITIONALLY WE'RE MISSING OUR UNION REPS FOR MECHANICAL AND PLUMBING.
UH, THOSE ARE THE SIGNIFICANT ONES, AS WELL AS SOME FEW ALTERNATES ON THE STRUCTURAL, UH, ARCHITECT.
UM, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S, IT'S ONE I'M, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GETTING A LOT OF APPLICANTS.
ANYTIME WE HAVE, UH, MEETINGS WITH STAKEHOLDERS, WE, WE PUT IT OUT THERE.
BUT WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
I'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT GETTING TO CITY COUNCIL.
BUT I WOULD, I WOULD SAY THAT I DON'T THINK WE WANNA SLOW DOWN THE REVIEW PROCESS TOO MUCH.
'CAUSE THE GOAL IS THE CURRENT PROCESS TIME.
WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT APRIL 1ST ON ADOPTION OF THE 2020 FOURS.
SO IT'S ABOUT A, ABOUT A, A LITTLE ABOUT EIGHT 15 MONTHS LATER THAN WHAT WE NORMALLY WOULD DO WITH THE GOAL OF TRYING TO GET BACK ON TRACK FOR THE 2020 SEVENS.
UM, YOU KNOW, SO I, I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE ENOUGH STAFF OR ENOUGH BOARD MEMBERS TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT.
AND NOW THAT IS Y'ALL'S TIME, NOT MY TIME.
SO, YOU KNOW, I, I DO APPRECIATE THAT, BUT I'M HOPING WE CAN DO THAT.
BUT I'LL DEFINITELY WORK WITH Y'ALL, UH, FOR ANYBODY THAT WILL, DOES SIGN UP FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEES, UH, TO WORK AROUND Y'ALL SCHEDULES AND, AND FIT IN, YOU KNOW, STAFF WILL MAKE EVERY MEANS TO BE THERE WITH Y'ALLS TIMES AND AVAILABILITY.
BUT I WILL LOOK AT THAT AND I'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.
UH, THE GOOD THING IS IF WE CAN ADD SOMEBODY EVEN AFTER THE SUBCOMMITTEES HAVE STARTED, SO WE CAN KIND OF FOCUS ON MAYBE SOME OF THE ONES THAT WE HAVE A GOOD AMOUNT OF, UH, BOARD MEMBERS THERE.
UH, SAY THE ELECTRICAL SIDE, UM, OR THE, THE, UH, I-V-C-I-F-C, I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE A LOT OF GOOD, UH, BOARD MEMBERS THERE.
AND SOME OF THE ONES WHERE WE'RE LACKING, UH, YOU KNOW, THE PLUMBING SIDE, LIKE I SAID, NOT HAVING THE UNIONS AND MAYBE CAN PUSH THOSE OFF A LITTLE BIT.
WE CAN ADD THEM TO THE SUBCOMMITTEES AT THOSE SUBCOMMITTEE MEETINGS.
AS LONG AS I HAVE ENOUGH MEMBERS TO HOLD A QUORUM.
SO IF I HAVE FOUR ASSIGNED TO EACH ONE, THEN WE CAN ADD ADDITIONAL BOARD MEMBERS IF THEY COME ON TO THOSE SUBCOMMITTEES WITHOUT HAVING ANOTHER BOARD MEETING, UH, FOR EVERYBODY TO COME TOGETHER.
SO I WILL KEEP PUSHING FOR THAT.
JEREMY, THIS ROBERT HAM AGAIN, UH, WHAT DID YOU SAY? YOU JUST LOST A BOARD MEMBER IN WHAT CATEGORY? THAT WAS OUR, UM, ALTERNATE FOR THE ELECTRICAL ENGINEER, UH, MARK.
UM, WELL, BOND'S NOT GOING ANYWHERE, SO WE'RE OKAY.
MY NEXT QUESTION IS, IF WE'RE HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING OUR PRIMARY AND OUR ALTERNATES FOR THE NON APPOINTED BOARD MEMBERS THAT CAN SERVE ON THE SUBCOMMITTEES, ARE WE GONNA GET ANY? I THINK, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, SOME CODES, MAYBE NOT SO MUCH.
UH, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, WE WILL REACH OUT TO THOSE INDUSTRIES, BUT I, I THINK WE ALSO ARE LOOKING FOR THE COMMUNITY SIDE OF IT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT'LL BE UP TO THE BOARD AND THE SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBERS ON THAT SUBCOMMITTEE TO DECIDE WHO'S GONNA BE ON THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, COMING FROM THE FIRE INDUSTRY, I KNOW THERE'S, THERE'S A FEW, UH, FIRE PROTECTION ENGINEERS THAT WILL LOVE TO BE ON THE I-B-C-I-F-C, UH, THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY EX MILLARD MEMBERS, I'M SURE WILL SIGN UP TO APPLY.
BUT WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO GET COMMUNITY MEMBERS SUCH AS THOSE THAT, UH, HAVE COME TODAY, UH, TO BE PART OF THIS PROCESS AS WELL.
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A LOT OF THIS COMES MORE FOR, YOU KNOW, S AND PMC, THE SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE, UH, WHICH, WHICH IS OVERSEEN BY CHAPTER SIX.WE'RE ACTUALLY UPDATING THEIR SUBCOMMITTEES AT THE EXACT SAME TIME.
SO CHAPTER SIX AND CHAPTER 10 WILL BE SEEN BY CITY COUNCIL.
THAT'S A MORE COMMUNITY DRIVEN CODE.
UH, THE SIGN CODE IS MORE COMMUNITY DRIVEN CODE.
SO THOSE ARE THE PRIMARY FOCUSES OF UPDATING THESE SUBCOMMITTEES.
BUT THAT BEING SAID, WE, YEAH, WE'RE GONNA PUSH THIS OUT THERE.
WE'LL, BEFORE WE START THE MEETINGS, WE WILL PUT IT OUT THERE ON SA SPEAKUP, WHICH IS KIND OF THE PLATFORM THAT, UH, THE CITY USES FOR COMMUNICATING WITH CITIZENS.
THAT'S WHERE WE, UH, HAVE THESE MEETINGS POSTED AT.
UH, WE WILL, UH, REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, WE'LL HOST COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND LET THEM KNOW, HEY, WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
UH, SO WE'LL TRY EVERY EFFORT, UH, TO MAKE IT KNOWN TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT IT WILL BE UP TO THE COMMUNITY TO, TO BE PART OF THAT.
THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD FOR YOU IS THAT, UM, IS THERE ANY ANNOUNCEMENT THAT AMID NEEDS TO MAKE? PROBABLY SO YOU WANNA MAKE THAT ANNOUNCEMENT OR YOU WANT ME TO OKAY.
UM, THERE, THERE HAS BEEN A FEW INTERIMS. UH, WE, I WOULD SAY THERE'S OUT OF THE 30 MANAGERS THAT WE MEET WITH ON MONDAY, I THINK, UH, 10 OF THEM ARE INTERIM AT THIS POINT.
BUT, SO AT THIS TIME, UH, MICHAEL SHANNON, THE, UH, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, WAS ASKED BY THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE TO FILL THE VACANCY FOR THE ANIMAL CARES SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
UH, SO HE IS CURRENTLY THE INTERIM DIRECTOR FOR THEIR ANIMAL CARE SERVICES.
UM, WITH HIM BEING, UH, MOVED OVER THERE FOR A TIME PERIOD UNTIL THEY COULD FIND A PERMANENT DIRECTOR, UH, WE ANTICIPATE THAT BEING ABOUT SIX MONTHS.
HOPEFULLY HE'LL BE BACK BEFORE THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR.
UH, ME AND TOMA, OUR DEPUTY DIRECTOR, HAS BEEN MOVED TO ASSIST, OR AS INTERIM DIRECTOR FOR THE DEPARTMENT.
UH, MELISSA RAMOS, UH, RAMIREZ, MELISSA RAMIREZ, WHO IS THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OVER LAND DEVELOPMENT, HAS BEEN MOVED INTO THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR INTERIM POSITION OVER, UH, FIELD SERVICES.
AND THEN LOGAN SPARROW, WHO IS AN ADMINISTRATOR UNDER, UH, MELISSA, HAS MOVED, MOVED INTO THE, UH, INTERIM ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR LAND DEVELOPMENT.
SO THOSE ARE KIND OF THE PREDOMINANT EXECUTIVE SIDE CHANGES THAT ARE HAPPENING RIGHT NOW, UH, THAT WILL, YOU KNOW, BE IN PLACE FOR MOST OF THE CODE REVIEW CYCLE.
SO SOMETHING THAT WE DO HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING I, FOR, I FORGOT, I APOLOGIZE, BUT, UH, WE WILL NOT UNDER THE NEW I CODE ADOPTION PROCESS WHERE WE GET ALL THE SUBCOMMITTEES, WE WON'T BE CONSIDERING THE NEW INTERNATIONAL ENERGY CODE WILL BE, THAT IS THE INTENT AT THIS TIME.
I DON'T THINK WE'VE, IS THAT FOR SURE? OR IS IT STILL KIND OF WE'RE WAITING FOR IT TO BE PUBLISHED? YEAH, BECAUSE IT'S MY DECISION NOW.
I'M SAYING
SO IF Y'ALL CAN GET ALL THIS DONE BEFORE MIKE GETS BACK THEN YES.
WELL THAT, THAT, THAT WAS MY QUESTION.
SINCE, SINCE HE'S BEEN MOVED TO CHIEF DOG CATCHER, UH, WHAT WHAT CHANGES DO YOU ANTICIPATE MAKING IN THIS INTERIM PERIOD, SIR?
WE MIGHT HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT WITH ALL THE SUBCOMMITTEE MEETINGS THAT WE'LL HAVE, BUT, UH, BUT NO, SO THAT, THAT'LL BE KIND OF THE GAME PLAN.
UH, WE'LL MEET IN OC AUGUST AS SOON AS I HAVE ALL THE BOOKS AND WE'VE BEEN APPROVED ON THOSE SUBCOMMITTEES.
I'LL, UH, KEEP WORKING WITH THE STAFF IN, IN CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
I'LL SEE IF I CAN GET SOME MORE VACANCIES FILLED.
AND CAN YOU GET WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE, UH, TO JUST HAVE THEM AND Y'ALL REACH OUT TO ANY OF THE AFFECTED INDUSTRIES THAT HAVE MAJOR CODE CHANGES TO GET, GIVE THEM A HEADS UP WHAT'S COMING.
IF IT'S, IT'S IF IT'S A BIGGIE LIKE THE HOME BUILDERS OR THE APARTMENT ASSOCIATION OR THE BUILDING OR MANUFACTURING FACILITIES, IF THERE'S SOMETHING LIKE MAJOR THAT CHANGED SO THAT WE CAN HOPEFULLY HAVE PEACE AND HARMONY AND NOT, UH, A BIG FIGHT.
IF, IF, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, ON THE LAST CYCLE OF THE ADOPTION OF THE CODES, WE HAD QUITE A FEW FIRE DEPARTMENT STAFF IN THESE MEETINGS IN THIS ROOM, USUALLY THREE TO FOUR PEOPLE.
SO THEY WERE VERY ACTIVE IN THIS LAST PROCESS, CORRECT? YEAH, THEY WILL.
UH, WE, LIKE I SAID, WE HAD OUR FIRST MEETING INTERNALLY WITH IFC.
WE HAD, UH, THE INTERIM, SO VALERIE'S INTERIM CHIEF UNDER, UM, MONAS UP IN THE, UH, THAT OFFICE.
SO, UH, ROBERT WESTBROOK IS THE INTERIM, UH, CHIEF OVER, UH, FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE.
SO HE, AND HE WAS IN THE ATTENDANCE WITH THAT MEETING AS WELL AS BOTH HIS, HIS HAZMAT SIDE, UH, WHICH HOUSES OUTTA THE ALAMO DOME AND OVERSEES KIND OF THE, THE HAZARDOUS MATERIALS AND ENTERTAINMENT SIDE OF, OF IT, AS WELL AS ALL THE, UH, FIRE MARSHALS THAT OVERSEE THE CONSTRUCTION.
I MEAN, THE PROBLEM WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS LAST TIME WAS VALERIE WAS LIKE WEEKS OLD IN, IN HER JOB.
MONASTERY WAS HERE FOR THE BIG PART OF IT WHEN SOMETHING
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MAJOR CAME.AND I JUST, YOU KNOW, NOW WE HAVE A NEW PERSON WHO'S NEVER REALLY BEEN THROUGH THAT WHOLE CODE CYCLE AND MONASTERY'S THE INTERIM CHIEF, SO HE'S PROBABLY NOT GONNA BE HERE AT ALL.
SO I JUST THINK WE NEED TO DO SOME OUTREACH.
IF THERE'S SOMETHING MAJOR THAT THEY'RE GONNA CHANGE, EITHER IN THE CODE CHANGES IT OR THEY'RE GONNA BACK OFF ON ONE OF THE AMENDMENTS, JUST SO THAT WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS AND NOT DEFINITELY AT THE 11TH HOUR THAT IT SLOWS EVERYTHING DOWN.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK THIS LAST CYCLE, THERE WASN'T ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES AND I'VE REVIEWED THE IFC AND WE LOOKED AT IT, YOU KNOW, ENERGY STORAGE HAS A BIG SIGNIFICANT CHANGE.
UH, BUT ONCE AGAIN, THAT'S A, THAT'S A SMALL INDUSTRY AND THEY, AND A LOT OF THOSE CHANGES ARE ACTUALLY MORE HOW TO BETTER POLICE THAT MORE THAN, UH, IT ACTUALLY GIVES THEM MORE OPTIONS ON INSERTING THOSE ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEMS WITHIN A BUILDING AND HOW TO REGULATE THAT AND UH, CERTIFY THAT VERSUS JUST HAVING KIND OF A ONE PAGE, IT'S NOW MULTIPLE PAGES OF, OF OPTIONS.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE LAST TIME THAT WE HAD VERY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IS USUALLY THE RETROACTIVE CHAPTER 11 OF THE IIFC.
AND THAT WAS IN THE 2018 ADOPTION WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE A TWOS AND REQUIRING THEM TO BE SPRINKLED, UH, AND GAVE THEM A FIVE YEAR.
I, I WOULDN'T, YOU KNOW, I WAS ON THE BOARD AT THAT TIME.
WE SAT THROUGH THOSE MEETINGS AND WE'RE, SO ANYTHING SOMETHING LIKE THAT COMES OUT, WE WILL DEFINITELY MAKE SURE THAT NOBODY'S IMPACTED UNAWARE.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE WILL REACH OUT AND TRY TO, BUT IT'S ALSO THE AMENDMENTS OR BACKING OFF ON ANY OF THE AMENDMENTS THAT IT TOOK SOMETHING OUT FOR 10 YEARS AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO DELETE THE AMENDMENT OUT.
IF, IF THERE'S ANY AMENDMENTS THAT WE WANNA REMOVE THAT IS GOING TO IMPACT ANYBODY THAT WILL, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY WILL BE SOMETHING WE DISCUSS AND WE'LL MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO MAKE THOSE, THOSE STAKEHOLDER GROUPS THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED BY THAT, AWARE OF THAT AND CAN SIT IN ON THESE MEETINGS OR MAYBE EVEN PUSH THAT THEY HAVE SOMEBODY AS A NON APPOINTED MEMBER, UH, TO BE ABLE TO VOTE ON THAT.
'CAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S THAT TRANSPARENCY SIDE OF IT THAT WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE GET BOTH COMMUNITY AND STAKEHOLDER GROUPS.
UH, LON CULBERTSON, UH, QUESTION, JUST A CLARIFICATION.
UM, THE NON APPOINTED SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBERS, WHERE DID, WHERE IS THAT, UH, WITH REGARD TO REQUIREMENT FOR CITIZENSHIP AND, UH, RESIDENCY IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO? SO DEFAULT IS THEY'RE REQUIRED TO BE CITIZENS OF SAN ANTONIO.
UM, THE BOARD MEMBERS, IF SOMEBODY APPLIES AND THE SUBCOMMITTEE WANTS TO ALLOW THEM, IT WOULD TAKE A VOTE OF THE BOARD, UH, TO, TO APPROVE THAT.
SO SIMILAR TO A CITY COUNCIL, UH, MEMBERS OF ANY OF THE BOARDS AND COMMITTEES, YOU KNOW, THE DEFAULT IS THAT THEY SHOULD BE CITIZENS, BUT CITY COUNCIL CAN, UM, OVER, I DON'T KNOW IF WAIVES THE RIGHT WAY, UH, WORD, BUT THEY CAN LOOK AT THAT AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, THERE'S A NEED FOR THAT POSITION AND, UH, THEY FILL THAT ROLE REALLY WELL AND, YOU KNOW, SO WE'LL WAIVE THAT REQUIREMENT FOR THEM TO BE CITIZENS OR RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
THAT'S ALL, ALL STAFF HAS YOU GOT? YES, SIR.
ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? THANKS FOR ALL EVERYBODY COMING.
UH, IT'S UH, 3 0 2 MOVE FOR ADJOURNMENT.