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GOOD AFTERNOON, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

IF WE COULD BEGIN WITH OUR SPANISH TRANSLATION SERVICES STATEMENT, PLEASE.

GOOD AFTERNOON, INTERPRET.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

BEFORE WE BEGIN, UM, WITH THE SUMMER RISE OF COVID, IT SEEMS AGAIN, UM, IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE A MASK, WE DO HAVE MASKS AVAILABLE OVER HERE ON THE SIDE ASIDE.

SO THANK YOU.

UH, MY NAME IS ROB SIPES AND I'M THE CHAIR OF THE ZONING COMMISSION FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT SEVEN ZONING COMMISSIONER.

I HEREBY CALL THIS REGULARLY NOTICE MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION INTO SESSION.

THE TIME IS 1 0 3.

I'D LIKE TO DO A ROLL CALL BY ALLOWING THE ZONING COMMISSIONERS TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, STARTING WITH THE COMMISSIONER ON MY FAR LEFT.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

MARCO BARROS, UH, DISTRICT NINE, JOHN BUSANTE, DISTRICT FIVE AL ORTIZ, DISTRICT EIGHT, JOHN WITT.

UH, DISTRICT 10, TAYLOR WATSON, DISTRICT TWO.

JANELLE CHASE, MAYOR GEORGE OSA, DISTRICT THREE, EDDIE REYES, DISTRICT FOUR.

KEN HUI, DISTRICT SIX STAFF IS A QUORUM PRESENT.

A QUORUM IS PRESENT.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

WOULD EVERYONE PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AGENTS.

I PLED TO FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVIDUAL WITH LITERACY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

ALL RIGHT, PRIOR TO COMMENCING OUR HEARING, I WOULD LIKE OUR STAFF TO REVIEW OUR MEETING FORMAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE STAFF.

BEFORE I BEGIN, PLEASE TURN YOUR PHONES ON VIBRATE OR TURN THEM OFF.

THE ZONING COMMISSION IS AN 11 MEMBER BODY APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ZONING CASES UPON RECEIVING A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION.

YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO FORWARD YOUR CASE TO CITY COUNCIL.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PROCEDURE, PLEASE CONTACT YOUR CASE MANAGER.

STAFF WILL BEGIN EACH CASE WITH A SHORT PRESENTATION OF THE REQUEST.

PART OF THE PRESENTATION INCLUDES A MAP THAT SHOWS THE AREA TO BE CONSIDERED FOR REZONING AND PROPERTY WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT.

PROPERTY CHECK MARKS INDICATE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND AN X INDICATES THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN OPPOSITION.

FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION AND ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION, THE APPLICANT WILL PRESENT THEIR REQUEST.

FOR THOSE THAT HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE PROPOSED REZONING, YOU WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THAT YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

THOSE IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO MINUTES PER SPEAKER AND YOU ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO UTILIZE THE MAXIMUM TIME LIMITATION.

YOU WILL BE INFORMED THAT YOUR TWO MINUTES ARE UP.

FOR THOSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEIR TIME TO A SPEAKER, THAT SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO PEOPLE GIVING THEIR TIME FOR A TOTAL OF SIX MINUTES.

THOSE GIVING UP THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AND SIGNED IN TO SPEAK AND MUST ANNOUNCE WHEN THAT SPEAKER IS GOING UP TO THE PODIUM THAT THEY ARE YIELDING THEIR TIME.

THE APPLICANT WILL BE THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL LIMITED TO ONE SPEAKER WITH A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT ALONG WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSION QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

[Zoning Items  ]

UM, IF WE COULD GO OVER THE LIST OF POSTPONED OR WITHDRAWN ITEMS PLEASE.

WE HAVE ONE ITEM THAT IS POSTPONED.

ITEM NUMBER ONE LOCATED AT 4 2 0 2 WILLARD DRIVE.

UM, THIS ITEM IS GOING TO BE RESCHEDULED AND, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET WILL BE RE NOTIFIED ONCE THAT ITEM IS SCHEDULED.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

SO, AS WAS STATED, IF YOU ARE HERE FOR THAT ITEM, UM, ON WILLARD DRIVE, THAT ITEM WILL NOT BE HERE HEARD TODAY, AND YOU ARE FREE TO ENJOY THE CURRENT OLYMPIC COVERAGE GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

SO WE WILL, IF YOU, IF THAT CASE COMES BACK, YOU WILL BE RE NOTIFIED ON WHEN THE MEETING WILL HAPPEN.

ALRIGHT, THANKS.

IF WE COULD MOVE ON TO THE LIST OF ITEMS ON OUR FIRST COMBINED HEARING.

NUMBER ONE ITEMS FOR OUR, UH, COMBINED HEARING.

NUMBER ONE, CONSENT ITEMS NUMBER 3, 4 6 9 11 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19 AND 20.

ALL OF THESE ITEMS ARE IN ON CONSENT.

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ALRIGHT, ANY COMMISSIONERS WISH TO POOL ANY OF THESE ITEMS TO INDIVIDUAL? LOOKING LEFT, SEEING NONE, LOOKING RIGHT, SEEING NONE.

ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD READ THESE ITEMS INTO THE RECORD PLEASE.

ITEM NUMBER THREE IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM AE TWO AND R FOUR TO IDZ ONE WITH USES PERMITTED IN C ONE LIGHT COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH ALL OVERLAY TO REMAIN THE SAME.

LOCATED AT 2 6 0 3 EAST COMMERCE STREET IN FIVE HUNDRED AND FIVE OH SIX BELMONT 46 NOTICES WERE SENT.

ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED, AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM THE JEFFERSON HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FOUR TO RM FIVE WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.

LOCATED AT 6 0 6 AND 6 0 8 EAST HIGHLAND BOULEVARD.

26 NOTICES WERE SENT.

ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED HIGHLAND PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR.

ITEM NUMBER SIX IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO IDZ ONE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.

LOCATED AT 3 0 5 SANDMEYER STREET.

34 NOTICES WERE SENT.

TWO RECEIVED IN FAVOR.

SIX OPPOSED NO RESPONSE FROM THE GOVERNMENT HILL ALLIANCE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

GOVERNMENT HILL TOMORROW COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION IS NEUTRAL AND OUTSIDE 200 FEET.

WE RECEIVED ONE IN OPPOSITION.

WHAT DID YOU SIGN UP FOR? ITEM NUMBER 13.

ITEM NUMBER NINE IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C TWO TO C TWO S WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR BAR AND OR TAVERN WITHOUT COVER CHARGE THREE OR MORE DAYS PER WEEK WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.

LOCATED AT 1921 NORTH ZARZA MARA STREET.

29.

NOTICES WERE SENT.

ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED WOODLAWN LAKE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR AND WEST END HOPE IN ACTION NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS ALSO IN FAVOR.

ITEM NUMBER 11 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM MF 33 TO MF 18 WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.

LOCATED AT 2 3 0 WEST WHITTIER STREET.

29.

NOTICES WERE SENT.

TWO RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED AND NO RESPONSE FROM THE ROOSEVELT PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

ITEM NUMBER 13 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM MF 25 WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE TO MF 25 WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE WITH A MAJOR SITE PLAN.

AMENDMENT FOR AN INCREASE IN OVERALL BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGE AND IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.

LOCATED AT 28 76 NACODOCHES ROAD.

61.

NOTICES WERE SENT, ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED AND NO RESPONSE FROM THE FOREST OAK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

ITEM NUMBER 14 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C TWO NP 10 AND I ONE TO I ONE WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.

LOCATED AT A 1 1 4 0 2 EAST IH.

TEN THREE NOTICES WERE SENT.

ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR.

ZERO OPPOSED.

AND THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.

ITEM NUMBER 15 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM MF 33 C ONE C TWO AND C3 TO R SIX WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.

LOCATED AT 1 4 1 1 SPRINGVALE DRIVE.

14.

NOTICES WERE SENT.

ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.

ITEM NUMBER 16 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM AE THREE WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR CABINET OR CARPENTER.

SHOP TO A E THREE WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR FLOOR COVERING SLASH RETAIL WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.

LOCATED AT 34 14 EAST COMMERCE STREET.

46 NOTICES WERE SENT.

ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED.

AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM THE COLISEUM, WILLOW PARK OR JEFFERSON HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

ITEM NUMBER 17 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM RM FOUR TO IDZ TWO.

UH, WITH USES PERMITTED FOR THREE DWELLING UNITS WITH AN ALLOWANCE OF A FENCE HEIGHT UP TO EIGHT FEET WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.

LOCATED AT 7 0 1 VIRGINIA BOULEVARD.

44 NOTICES WERE SENT.

ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR.

ZERO OPPOSED DENVER HEIST NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, UM, GAVE NO RESPONSE.

ITEM NUMBER 18 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM BP TO LS WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR STORAGE, UH, OUTSIDE OPEN WITH NO SCREENING REQUIRED WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.

GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 14,000 BLOCK OF SPEEDWAY PARK.

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NOTICES WERE SENT.

ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR.

ZERO OPPOSED.

AND THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.

ITEM NUMBER 19 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM MF 33 TO C TWO CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR AUTO AND LIGHT TRUCK REPAIR LOCATED AT 8 22 AND EIGHT 30 WYOMING STREET WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.

39 NOTICES WERE SENT.

10 RECEIVED IN FAVOR.

ZERO OPPOSED.

AND THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.

OUTSIDE 200 FEET WE RECEIVE TWO IN FAVOR.

ITEM NUMBER 20 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C TWO AND O2 TO C TWO WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.

LOCATED AT 4 3 4 3 AND 4 3 5 5 EAST SOUTH CROSS BOULEVARD.

29 NOTICES WERE SENT.

ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED.

AND PECAN VALLEY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR.

AND THAT IS IT FOR ITEMS IN CONSENT AND WE DO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.

ALRIGHT.

IF WE COULD, DO WE HAVE SPEAKERS AND VOICEMAILS OR JUST WE DO HAVE A SPEAKER WHO SIGNED UP, UM, JUST NOW, UM, FOR ITEM NUMBER 13.

OKAY.

AND THEN I BELIEVE WE HAVE SOME VOICEMAILS FOR THE OTHER CASES.

ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HEAR THE VOICEMAILS FIRST PLEASE.

1 0 5 BRUNO STREET.

I'M A BOARD MEMBER OF GOVERNMENT HILL TOMORROW AND I'M CALLING ABOUT AGENDA ITEM 6 3 0 5 SANDMEYER.

UM, UH, AS USUAL, THE, OUR ORGANIZATION DOES NOT, UM, THAT WE'RE REMAINING NEUTRAL IS WE DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR ANY OTHER NEIGHBORS, WE JUST WANNA FOSTER COMMUNICATION AND IN THIS CASE, THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE HAS COME TO TWO OF OUR MEETINGS, LISTEN TO CONCERNS AND PROVIDE THE SITE PLAN.

UM, ALTHOUGH THE, THE, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS CASE POINTS OUT ISSUES WITH THE, THE A DU CODE AND WHEN THE PROPERTIES CHANGED HANDS, BUT, UH, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD COMPROMISE TO NOT HAVE A VACANT LOT.

THE, UM, THE ADDED PARKING AND THE AGREEMENT TO ONE STORY ON THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE IS HELPFUL, UH, FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMPATIBLE.

AND, UH, WE HOPE YOU, UH, CONSIDER THIS TODAY.

THANK YOU.

HI.

YES, THIS IS JD MORALE MORALES ON BEHALF OF THE WOODLAWN LAKE COMMITTEE ASSOCIATION, I'M CALLING REGARDING, UH, CASE NUMBER Z DASH 2 0 2 4 DASH 0 7 0 0 0 5 0 S PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1921 NORTH S LAMO.

UM, THE ASSOCIATION FEELS THEY IN SUPPORT OF THIS REZONING BASED UPON THE CONVERSATION WE'VE HAD WITH THE APPLICANT, MR. GAMBOA.

WE FEEL THAT ALLOWING THEM TO OPERATE IN THIS CAPACITY AND THE BUSINESS THAT THEY'VE HELPED IN THE PAST THROUGH THE FAMILY MEMBER WOULD ONLY HELP CONTINUE TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES AND GROWTH TO THE COMMUNITY AND THE AREA.

UH, AGAIN, AL LAKE ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT OF THE REZONING AS PRESENTED.

THANK YOU.

YES, I'M CALLING IN REGARDS TO CASE NUMBER 1 0 7 0 0 1 2 0 CD.

MY NAME IS JEFF HUNT.

I'M THE PRESIDENT OF ROOSEVELT PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

UH, THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION APPROVES, UH, THIS ZONING CHANGE AND I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE, ESPECIALLY WHERE THE PROPERTY SITS, UH, RIGHT OFF COMMERCIAL.

SO I THINK IT IS PERFECTLY FINE FOR THIS TO GO THROUGH.

UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

BYE-BYE.

HELLO, SAMANTHA.

THIS IS KEVIN OTT FROM MACARTHUR PARK LUTHERAN CHURCH REGARDING A ZONING COMMISSION OF PUBLIC HEARING.

CASE NUMBER Z 2,000,024 DASH 0 7 0 0 1 22 CD REGARDING 28 76 NDOS ROAD, ALSO KNOWN AS 2,900 NDOS ROAD.

ALAMO ONE, UH, I CAN'T REALLY VOTE TO APPROVE IT BECAUSE IT DOES NOT GIVE ENOUGH DETAIL OTHER THAN INCREASE OVERALL BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGE.

IT DOESN'T SAY ONE FOOT, 10 FOOT A THOUSAND, 10,000 SQUARE FEET.

UM, I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GO TO THE MEETING TOMORROW, UH, BUT IT'S TOO VAGUE FOR ME TO APPROVE IT.

MY NAME IS KEVIN OTT, MACARTHUR PARK LUTHERAN CHURCH ZONING COMMISSION, KZ 2 0 24 1 7 0 1 22 CD.

THANK YOU.

BYE.

AND THAT'S IT FOR VOICEMAILS FOR, SO WE DO HAVE A SPEAKER WHO SIGNED UP, UM, FOR ITEM NUMBER 13, MR. JUSTIN AND MS. SARAH RICE FOR ITEM NUMBER

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13.

AND SO IF YOU CAN PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AND YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.

YES.

MY NAME IS JUSTIN RICE AND I'M AT 88 30 PINE RIDGE ROAD.

ZIP CODE 7 8 2 1 7.

MY NAME IS SARAH RICE.

I LIVE AT 88 30 PINE RIDGE ROAD.

ZIP CODE 7 8 2 1 7.

UH, YES.

UH, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THIS.

IT'S AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 13 AND WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU CONDITION ANY APPROVAL ON THIS PERMIT TO THE APPLICANT PUTTING UP, UM, A PRIVACY FENCE OF AT LEAST EIGHT FEET IN HEIGHT, UH, ALONG THE ALLEY THAT SEPARATES OUR HOUSE AS WELL AS OUR TWO NEIGHBORS.

UH, WE'RE ALSO HERE ON BEHALF OF OUR NEIGHBORS AND WE HAVE A LETTER THAT WE'VE ALL JOINED IN SIGNING.

WE WEREN'T ABLE TO SUBMIT IT IN TIME, BUT IF YOU NEED US TO READ IT INTO THE RECORD, WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT OR JUST PROVIDE IT.

UM, THE OTHER CONDITION THAT WE WOULD ASK FOR IS THAT LOUD CONSTRUCTION.

BE LIMITED TO THE HOURS BETWEEN 8:00 AM AND 6:00 PM ON WEEKDAYS AND NOT TO HAPPEN ON WEEKENDS.

UM, WE MOVED INTO OUR HOUSE IN, LET'S SEE, WE BOUGHT IT IN 20 20, 20 19 AND MOVED IN IN 2020.

THE CONSTRUCTION HAS BEEN GOING ON THIS ENTIRE PERIOD.

UH, IT'S LITERALLY IN OUR BACKYARD.

UH, THEY JUST HAVE A CHAIN LINK FENCE.

WE CAN SEE ALL THE ACTIVITIES GOING ON.

A LOT OF TIME THE WORKERS ARE CUSSING, PLAYING LOUD MUSIC.

THERE'S JACKHAMMERING THAT RATTLES OUR WINDOWS.

AND WE HAVE BROUGHT THIS TO THE ATTENTION TO THE OWNER ON SEVERAL, ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS, AND THEY HAVE SEEN TO STOP THINGS, BUT IT'S GETTING ON, IT'S ALMOST FIVE YEARS NOW.

WHEN IS THIS PROJECT GONNA END? UM, AND MY WIFE CAN RELAY SOME PRIVACY CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE WITH RESPECT TO THE SECURITY AND OUR SAFETY AS RESIDENTS.

UH, IT'S GONNA BE A LOT DIFFERENT HAVING IN OFFICE AND POTENTIALLY RESIDENTIAL APARTMENTS IN THERE.

SO WE WOULD ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THOSE, UM, IN THIS.

AND, UM, I THINK SIR, THAT IS THE TIME.

OH, OKAY.

SO DO I GET TWO MINUTES AS WELL OR IS, UM, YES, GO AHEAD.

TWO MINUTES, PLEASE.

UM, SO I'M GONNA READ, UM, THE LETTER.

IT SHOULDN'T TAKE MORE THAN, UM, I'LL SKIP, BUT I SAID WE REQUEST THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO CONDITIONS APPROVAL OF THE ZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY ON 28 76 NACODOCHES ROAD ON ONE.

THE PROPERTY OWNER REPLACES CHAIN LINK FENCE THAT BACKS UP TO OUR PROPERTY WITH A PRIVACY FENCE, LIKE HE SAID, THAT'S AT LEAST EIGHT FEET TALL BETWEEN THE THREE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES LISTED AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS LETTER.

TWO HAVE YOUNG CHILDREN AND TWO HAVE ELDERLY RESIDENTS, ONE WITH DEMENTIA AND ANOTHER ONE, UM, WHO IS AT THE EARLY ONSET OF DEMENTIA.

AND, UM, ONE OF THE ELDERLY WOMEN WHO HAS IT, HAS VOICED CONCERNS BECAUSE SHE SEES THEM WATCHING HER.

AND I ALSO WROTE THAT THE SAFETY AND PRIVACY OF THE CHILDREN IN ELDERLY RESIDENCE IS IMPERATIVELY.

I HAVE ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS, EXPERIENCED CONSTRUCTION WORK WORKERS WATCHING ME AS I DO YARD WORK, TAKE CARE OF THE PETS, AND IT'S LIKE A STARING, IT'S NOT JUST A, LIKE I KNOW WE OFTEN GLANCE THROUGH FENCES AT OUR NEIGHBORS.

IT'S NOT LIKE THAT.

IT'S, IT'S UNNERVING, IT'S CREEPY .

AND I SAID, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE INCREASED EMPLOYEE BASE THAT WILL COME WITH INCREASED COMMERCIAL SQUARE FOOTAGE, UM, OF, OF BUILDINGS, THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THESE DISCONCERTING SITUATIONS ABSOLUTELY HAS TO BE MINIMIZED OR ELIMINATED.

UM, AND THEN AGREED WITH THE NO ALLOWED CONSTRUCTION OPERATIONS BEFORE 8:00 AM OR AFTER 6:00 PM ON WEEKDAYS, NO LOUD CONSTRUCTION ON THE WEEKENDS BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD JACK HAMMERING AT SEVEN DURING THE WEEKDAY, UM, AND THEN ALSO ON THE WEEKENDS.

AND THAT IS A LOT OF, UH, OWNERS, UM, RENTERS TIME AT HOME TO GET AWAY FROM THE BUSY, UM, HUSTLE AND BUSTLE OF THE WORK WORK WEEK.

AND SO WE DO HAVE SIGNATURES FROM, UH, BOTH OF US AND THEN, UH, HOMEOWNERS ON BOTH SIDES OF US THAT, UH, THEY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE APPROVAL CONTINGENT ON THESE TWO REQUESTS.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER WHITSETT.

WELL, THIS IS THE FIRST I'VE HEARD OF THAT.

SO, UM, CAN WE PULL THIS FOR DISCUSSION? OKAY.

WHY DON'T WE DO THAT IF YOU'LL PULL IT TO, ALL RIGHT, WE WILL, YEAH, WE WILL PULL ITEM 13 TO INDIVIDUAL.

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ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

OKAY.

AND THAT WAS THE EXTENT OF PUBLIC COMMENT, CORRECT? CORRECT.

ALL RIGHT.

I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE OTHER ITEMS. MR. CHAIR.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FOLLOWING ITEMS, ITEMS NUMBER 3, 4, 6 9 11 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, AND 20.

I'LL SECOND THE MOTION.

ALL RIGHT.

THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE ITEMS 3, 4, 6, 9 11, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, AND 20 BY COMMISSIONER WATSON WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARTOS.

THAT WAS YOU, CORRECT? ALRIGHT.

UM, ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? LOOKING LEFT, SEEING NONE.

LOOKING RIGHT, SEEING NONE.

ALRIGHT.

ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.

MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL.

COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES.

COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES.

COMMISSIONER NOOSA? YES.

COMMISSIONER REYES? YES.

COMMISSIONER BUSANTE.

AYE.

COMMISSIONER HUEY AYE.

COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES.

COMMISSIONER WITS? YES.

COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES.

CHAIR SIPES? YES.

ITEMS PASS.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

IF YOU WERE HERE FOR ANY OF THOSE ITEMS ON THE, UH, COMBINED AGENDA, YOU ARE FREE TO ENJOY THE REST OF THE WARM DAY AND WE WILL NOW BE MOVING ON.

THOSE ITEMS WILL NOW BE PROCEEDING ON TO CITY COUNCIL.

WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO OUR CONTINUANCE AGENDA.

WE HAVE ONE ITEM REQUESTING A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE TO AUGUST 20TH, 2024.

ITEM NUMBER TWO, LOCATED, GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 1900 BLOCK OF ROGERS ROAD.

OKAY.

GREAT.

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? WE DO NOT.

ALL RIGHT.

IS THERE A MOTION ON THIS CONTINUANCE? MR. CHAIR? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER TWO TO THE AUGUST 20TH HEARING.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

ALRIGHT, THE MOTION IS TO, UH, CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER TWO TO THE, UH, AUGUST 20TH MEETING BY COMMISSIONER WATSON WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? LOOKING LEFT? SEEING NONE.

LOOKING RIGHT.

SEEING NONE.

ALRIGHT.

ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES.

COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES.

COMMISSIONER NOOSA? YES.

COMMISSIONER REYES? YES.

COMMISSIONER BUSANTE.

AYE.

COMMISSIONER HUEY AYE.

COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES.

COMMISSIONER WHITSETT? YES.

COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES.

CHAIR SIPES? YES.

MOTION PASSES.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

AND WE WILL SEE YOU IN, WHAT IS THAT, TWO WEEKS? OH, IT'S ALREADY AUGUST.

SORRY.

ALRIGHT, IF WE CAN MOVE ON TO OUR INDIVIDUAL HEARING PLEASE.

I BELIEVE ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS FIRST ON THE LIST.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS SAMANTHA BENAVIDEZ, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS LOCATED AT 7 0 8 NORTH COLORADO STREET.

GOING FROM IDZ INFIELD DEVELOPMENT ZONE WITH USES PERMITTED IN C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND R FOUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT TWO, IDZ TWO ME, MEDIUM INTENSITY AND FIELD DEVELOPMENT ZONE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR THREE UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAY STAYING THE SAME.

THERE WERE 31 NOTICES SENT OUT.

TWO IN FAVOR.

THREE OPPOSED GARDENDALE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED.

NO RESPONSE WAS RECEIVED FROM WEST END IN WEST END HOPE IN ACTION NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THERE WERE 11 RESPONSES RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION OUTSIDE OF 200 FEET AS WELL AS ONE IN FAVOR OUTSIDE 200 FEET.

THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.

SURROUNDING ZONING DESIGNATIONS INCLUDE MF 50 MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT AND R THREE CD RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO UNITS.

THE CURRENT IDZ INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE DISTRICT WITH USES PERMITTED IN C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND R FOUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND THE SURROUNDING AREA.

THE PROPOSED ID Z TWO, MEDIUM INTENSITY INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE DISTRICT WITH USES PERMITTED FOR THREE DWELLING UNITS IS ALSO APPROPRIATE.

THE PROPOSED DENSITY OF THREE DWELLING UNITS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE DENSITY IN THE AREA RANGING FROM TWO DWELLING UNITS TO APARTMENTS.

THE REQUEST TO TO REZONE REQUIRES A SITE PLAN THAT WILL HOLD THE APPLICANT TO THE PROPOSED LAYOUT OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND DEVIATION FROM THE APPROVED DOCUMENT COULD WARRANT THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL COUNSEL CONSIDERATION.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR PROPOSAL.

UH, I WAS WORKING HERE, THAT'S WHY I BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY.

AND, UH, I IF YOU COULD GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, FIRST THING.

NAME.

MY NAME IS KAJI KALO CAMP KALO.

I GO BY 7 0 8 NORTH COLORADO STREET.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

UH, IT

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WAS, UH, AFTER COVID I WAS STARTED WORKING HERE IN SAN ANTONIO.

SO THEN BOUGHT THIS, UH, AND IT WAS ALREADY THREE UNITS FOR NUMBER OF YEARS.

AND I TRIED TO DO THINGS LEGALLY EVEN I DID THE FOUNDATION WORK MYSELF, ALTHOUGH I'M ELECTRICAL ENGINEER, BUT I DID FOUNDATION WORK MYSELF WITH A PERMIT AND EVERYTHING, AND I WANTED TO MAKE IT LEGAL THAT THAT'S MY, THIS ONE.

AND ALSO IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I, I GOT THE EVEN FIVE PEOPLE'S SIGNATURE THAT WHO ARE OWNERS THERE, LEAVING THERE.

UH, I WAS LEAVING HERE BE, UH, NOW I MOVED BECAUSE OF THE JOB, UH, WEST TEXAS.

SO I GO AND THIS, I'M STILL KEEPING AT THIS ONE.

AND, UH, HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION.

I HAVE NEVER SEEN IT BEFORE.

N NEVER CAME.

AND, UH, WHEN I FOUND OUT THIS TIME, THEY HAD CONCERNS.

I TRIED TO PROPOSE THEM AND I SAY WE HAVE A MANAGER ON THE SITE, ON THE PROPERTY.

I ALSO SEND A PRESENTATION.

I THINK EVEN THERE IS A, THERE USED TO BE A DUMP AND PEOPLE USED TO DUMP THERE.

I GOT IT ONE, TWO TIME PAID MY, UH, THAT THE GRASS OVER THERE IS GROWN NOW.

BEFORE THIS WAS NOT THE GRASS THAT WAS THE DUMP SITE PEOPLE WERE USING.

I HAVE WITH THE CITY, I HAVE CLEARED IT FEW TIMES AND, UH, ALSO NOW THE GRASS IS GONE.

IT, IT IS CHANGED A LOT IN THAT.

SO, AND, UH, 200 FEET AREAS.

I, I GOT FIVE, FIVE PEOPLE'S SIGNATURE.

I THINK I SUBMITTED THAT ALREADY.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? WE DO.

WE HAVE ONE PERSON SPEAK UP.

UM, SIGNED IN TO SPEAK.

MR. JOHN CARLO LUTA.

HELLO, MY NAME IS JOHN CARL LUTA.

MY ADDRESS IS 6 34 NORTH SABINA STREET.

I'M HERE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE GARDENDALE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, ALSO KNOWN AS G AND A AS AN AT LARGE STATUS BOARD MEMBER.

GARDENDALE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION STANDS WITH COMMUNITY IN OPPOSITION OF THIS ZONING REQUEST, CASE NUMBER Z 20 23 7 7.

GARDENDALE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION INTERACTED WITH RESIDENTS WITHIN 200 FEET AREA AND SECURED THEIR INPUT.

A TOLL OF 14 ZONING REQUEST.

WR FORMS IN OPPOSITION OF THIS CASE WERE GATHERED AND SUBMITTED TO THE ZONING BOARD.

COMMUNITY REASONS NOTED FOR ZONING OPPOSITION INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING.

ONE.

THE IDZ ZONING REQUEST IS NOT FIT FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

GIVING APPROVAL FOR THE ZONING WOULD NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE AREA WITH OVERCROWDING UNSAFE LIVING.

TWO, THE PROPERTY DOES NOT SAFELY ACCOMMODATE THREE UNITS.

IT IS DESIGNED AS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND IT SHOULD REMAIN, REMAIN AS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

THREE, THE PROPERTY DOES NOT HAVE A BACKYARD AND ONLY HAS ONE PARKING SPACE.

COLORADO STREET WHERE THE FRONT HOUSE FACES DOES NOT LEND ITSELF TO BE USED FOR PARKING.

AS, AS IT IS A HIGH TRAFFIC STREET WITH TWO INBOUND LANES AND TWO OUTBOUND LANES.

FOUR COMMUNITY RESIDENTS ARE BEING INCONVENIENCED AS IN PROPERTY TO HAVE ILLEGALLY PARK TO HAVE TO ILLEGALLY PARK IN THE UNION PACIFIC GROUNDS, WHICH YOU SAW A PICTURE OF, AND, UH, THERE IS A WORD THAT THEY ARE CONSIDERING FENCING THAT PROPERTY.

OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HAS MADE CONTACT WITH UNION PACIFIC.

UM, SO THIS PROPERTY LACKS A BACK, LET'S SEE, UH, I LOST MY PLACE.

I DO APOLOGIZE.

UM, THE PROPERTY LACKS A BACKYARD AS A PROPERTY BACKS UP TO A MECHANIC'S SHOP FIVE.

IN PRIOR MEETINGS TO INCLUDE THE MEETING WHERE THE LARGE AREA OF REZONING WAS PRESENTED, THE COMMUNITY MADE THE REQUEST TO REMAIN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME COMMUNITY.

THE VOICE OF THE IMPACTED COMMUNITY IS NOT BEING LISTENED TO.

THAT'S HOW SOME OF OUR, UM, CONSTITUENTS FEEL.

UH, SIX, THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN OPERATING AS A THREE UNIT PROPERTY MUCH PRIOR TO THIS REQUEST.

IT HAS BEEN RENTING OUT ROOMS, UH, PRIOR, UH, PER SURROUNDING RESIDENCY OR, UH, REPORTING, SEEING ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

AND THAT WAS, AND THAT'S IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

ALRIGHT.

UH, IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE A SHORT TIME TO, FOR A REBUTTAL.

YES SIR.

I DO HAVE SOME PARKING SPACE FOR 12 FIVE BY 40 FEET ALSO.

UM, MY RENTERS DON'T HAVE, UH, UH, CARS OR ANYTHING.

ONLY I HAVE A CAR WHICH COMES IN ALSO THAT, UH, UH, IT DOES NOT, UH, WE DON'T LACK THERE A LITTLE BACKYARD ON THE THIS ONE AND, UH, IT'S IN THE, IN THE DRAWING.

AND, UH, ALSO THIS HAS BEEN THREE UNITS FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, AND I'M TRYING TO JUST MAKE IT LEGALLY BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN LIKE ALMOST 15 TO 20 YEARS LIKE THAT.

I'M NOT SURE HOW LONG IT HAS BEEN.

SO, AND I DO, I THINK COUNCIL WILL RESPECT THE IDEAS ZONING.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M PROPOSING FOR.

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THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE CASE, SO TO YOU COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE FOR QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU MR. COLLON.

UM, TO YOU FIRST, UM, HOW MANY KITCHENS ARE IN THIS HOUSE? KIDS IN THIS HOUSE? IN THE, UH, IN THERE IS, UH, THERE WAS THERE ONLY ONE KID COMES ON THE, SORRY.

KITCHEN.

KITCHEN, KITCHEN.

THREE KITCHENS.

THREE KITCHENS.

OKAY.

HOW BIG ARE THE UNITS? APPROXIMATELY? UNITS, UH, AROUND 500 SQUARE FEET EACH.

INCLUDING THE KITCHEN? YES.

FOR EACH UNIT? YES.

465 I GOT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU SIR.

UH, MR. LORETTA, IF I COULD HAVE YOU BACK UP.

I, I THINK YOU MENTIONED AS ONE OF YOUR POINTS OR ONE OF THE POINTS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THAT, THAT Y'ALL FELT PEOPLE WERE RENTING ROOMS. WHAT DID YOU MEAN BY THAT? THAT WE WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THEY HAD TENANTS THAT WERE PAYING A MONTHLY, UM, PAYMENT TO LIVE THERE.

SO, UH, WE UNDERSTOOD IT TO BE A RENTAL PROPERTY.

SO I GUESS YOU AGAIN, UH, YES.

AND, AND THIS IS PUSHING IT.

UM, BUT YOU KNOW, SO THIS, THIS IS A RENTAL PROPERTY.

IN FACT, IT, IT NOW MEANS I STILL HAVE ONE, ONE OF ONE OF THEM WITH ME, BUT TWO ARE RENTED.

OKAY.

TWO ARE RENTED.

BUT YOU'RE, YOU'RE ON, YOU STILL OWN ONE OF THE UNITS? YEAH, MY, MY NEPHEW IS, UH, UH, WORKING HERE IN SAN ANTONIO, SO HE LIVES OVER THERE.

OKAY.

UM, I WORK IN OIL FIELDS, SO I TRAVEL A LOT, SO.

RIGHT.

DO PEOPLE, DO PEOPLE PARK FROM YOUR PROPERTY ON THE UNION PACIFIC LOT TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE? THEY DON'T HAVE TO.

THEY, BUT THEY DO.

OKAY.

BUT, UH, NOBODY HAS NO, BOTH OF THEM.

UH, ONE HAS A BICYCLE AND ANOTHER LADY IS, UH, DOESN'T HAVE A LIVE LICENSE EVEN AND ONLY I'M THE ONE, UM, WITH THE CAR.

DO ANY OF THE UNITS HAVE MULTIPLE PEOPLE IN THEM WITH SEPARATE LEASE AGREEMENTS? NO.

ONLY ONE PERSON EACH, UH, A UH, EACH UNIT HAS ONE PERSON AGREEMENT AND ONLY ONE PERSON LIVES THERE.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

UM, WHY DID, AND WHY DID YOU PICK IDZ BEYOND THE FACT THAT IT WAS ALREADY IDZ? UH, IT'S ALREADY IDZ, THAT'S MEANS I, I WAS, I, I I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE ZONING MUCH, BUT I TRY TO MAKE IT, UH, WHAT IS LEGAL POINT IS I TRY TO LEARN THAT WAY I CAN ADD HIS EXIST, HIS EXISTING ZONING IS FOR JUST EITHER SINGLE FAMILY OR C TWO USES.

AND SO I THINK THERE'S SOME CONFUSION HERE, BUT HE IS TRYING TO DO THREE SEPARATE UNITS THAT HAVE INDIVIDUAL BEDROOMS, INDIVIDUAL COMMON SPACES AND THAT'S WHY HE NEEDS THE CHANGE OF ZONING.

YEAH.

SO I WAS TRYING TO, NOW I'M GONNA GO TO YOU STAFF.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MR. COLLIN, YOU CAN SIT DOWN.

THANK YOU.

UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE MAJOR ISSUES IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS UH, THIS IDEA OF CERTAIN UNITS BEING RENTED BY THE ROOM.

IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S NO LONGER A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING BECAUSE FROM MY READING, A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING, NOT IN THIS CASE BY THE WAY, I THINK, AND WE'LL GO THROUGH THIS, UM, BUT YOU KNOW, IN THIS CASE BECAUSE THERE'S A KITCHEN AND A LIVING SPACE TOGETHER THAT MAKES A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING, RIGHT.

OR A DWELLING UNIT.

I AM NOT THE EXACT, UM, AUTHORITY ON THAT.

BUT FOLLOWING INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE, INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTIAL CODE AND CHAIR SIPES CAN PROBABLY NO ARCHITECT , UM, COMMERCIAL, NOT RESIDENT , BUT FROM OUR STANDARD, NORMALLY YES, A SINGLE DWELLING UNIT WOULD HAVE BEDROOM LIVING OR IN COMMON SPACES, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE LIKE LIVING SPACE AND UM, A KITCHEN.

IF THERE ARE CERTAIN INSTANCES THOUGH, IF YOU HAVE A SINGLE ROOM OR I MEAN A SINGLE HOUSE THAT HAS JUST THAT SINGLE KITCHEN AND LIVING SPACE, BUT YOU RENT THE SEPARATE BEDROOMS OUT, IT WOULD STILL BE

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CONSIDERED A SINGLE FAMILY.

IT'S SIMILAR TO IF YOU'RE RENTING OUT ROOMS TO COLLEGE STUDENTS, WHICH IS VERY COMMON.

UM, AGAIN, WE'RE GOING OFF OF A DWELLING UNIT CONSIDERS WHAT ARE YOUR COMMON SPACES? OKAY, SO DWELLING UNIT, UH, TO MY UNDERSTANDING, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT FROM THE UDC SAYS ONE OR MORE ROOMS PROVIDED PROVIDING COMPLETE LIVING FACILITIES FOR ONE FAMILY INCLUDING KITCHEN FACILITIES OR EQUIPMENT FOR COOKING OR PROVISIONS FOR THE SAME AND INCLUDING ROOM OR ROOMS FOR SLEEPING, LIVING, BATHING, AND EATING.

I FLIPPED LIVING AND SLEEPING THERE, BUT I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT.

I JUST CLIPPED IT FROM THE UDC.

OKAY.

OKAY.

FAMILY AND FAMILY IS INCLUDED IN, AS PART OF DWELLING UNIT IS DEFINED AS ONE OR MORE PERSONS OCCUPYING A DWELLING UNIT.

I'M SORRY, OCCUPYING A DWELLING LIVING TOGETHER AS A SEPARATE HOUSEKEEPING UNIT IN ONE OR MORE ROOMS, ET CETERA.

OKAY.

SO I THINK ONE OF THE ISSUES WE'RE SEEING IN GARDENDALE, AND I WANT TO ADDRESS USING THIS CASE, EVEN THOUGH IT TURNS OUT IT MAY NOT BE ENTIRELY APPROPRIATE, UH, IS WHAT IS A HOUSEKEEPING UNIT.

SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ROOMS FOR RENT, I THINK THAT BECOMES A SEPARATE HOUSEKEEPING UNIT AND THAT'S MAYBE MORE OF A QUESTION FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, UH, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE RATHER.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT IS A GREAT CONCERN FOR ME THAT WE DON'T HAVE UNFORTUNATELY A DEFINITION FOR THE HOUSEKEEPING UNIT IN OUR UDC.

UM, AND WE DON'T HAVE CLEAR GUIDANCE FROM THE CASE LAW, IN MY OPINION, NOT NOT AN ATTORNEY, NOT ACTING AS AN ATTORNEY AT THIS POINT.

UM, BUT YOU KNOW THAT THOSE SINGLE ROOMS FOR RENT MIGHT BE RUNNING AFOUL OF THE SINGLE HOUSEKEEPING UNIT IN RUDC.

UM, IN THIS CASE IT'S BEEN THREE DWELLING UNITS.

UM, AND, AND DO WE HAVE ANY OPINION ON STAFF ON THAT USAGE OVER TIME? HAS, HAS WHAT EVIDENCE DOES STAFF HAVE? LET ME ASK A BETTER QUESTION.

WHAT EVIDENCE DOES STAFF HAVE OR DID STAFF CONSIDER REGARDING THE USE OF THIS AS THREE UNITS FOR SOME PERIOD OF TIME? WE WERE GOING OFF OF WHAT THE APPLICANT IS STATING.

OKAY.

UM, TYPICALLY WHEN YOU HAVE THREE SEPARATE DWELLING UNITS, YOU ALSO HAVE THREE SEPARATE ELECTRICAL METERS OR OTHER ITEMS LIKE THAT, THAT SIGNIFY THAT AND WE'RE NOT AWARE OF ADDITIONAL UNITS.

OKAY.

SO STAFF, DID YOU OBSERVE ANY ELECTRICAL UNITS THERE? YOU DIDN'T.

OKAY.

MR. COLLIN, IF YOU WOULD COME UP PLEASE.

YES, SIR.

THERE ARE THREE SEPARATE BREAKERS AND THREE SEPARATE, UH, UH, SERVICE BOXES IN THE EACH UNIT.

OKAY.

BUT, BUT AS FAR AS METERS FROM METER ONE, METER FROM CPS ENERGY? YES.

OKAY.

SINGLE U, SINGLE METER.

ALRIGHT.

UM, OKAY.

I THINK THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, OTHER COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? ANY QUESTIONS? NONE.

COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.

YEAH, OF COURSE.

COMMISSIONER REYES, ONE QUESTION FOR ONE QUESTION FOR STAFF.

STAFF.

YOU WROTE IN YOUR REPORT, PROPOSED DENSITY OF THREE DWELLING UNITS IS CONSISTENT, THE DENSITY IN THE AREA RANGING FROM TWO DWELLING UNITS TO APARTMENTS IS THERE, IS THERE A MAP YOU CAN SHOW WHERE THERE, THERE ARE OTHER INSTANCES OR EVIDENCE OF WHERE THE DENSITY IS CONSISTENT? I'LL TAKE YOUR WORD.

SORRY, COMMISSIONER.

EY.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

UH, QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.

PLEASE, SIR, I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY EARLIER THAT YOUR RESIDENCE, UH, YOUR RENTERS DO NOT DRIVE CARS.

IS THAT RIGHT? NO, THEY DON'T HAVE CARS.

SO IS THAT A CONDITION FOR RENTAL THAT THEY'RE NOT TO HAVE ANY CARS ON YOUR PROPERTY? UM, THEY DON'T WANT CARS.

I HAVE NOT PUT A CONDITION, BUT UH, NORMALLY I, WHEN I CHOOSE MY RENTAL I SEE FOR THAT IF THEY HAVE A CAR, THEY CAN PARK IT NOT OKAY.

SO YOU CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT THEY WON'T HAVE ANY CARS.

UH, ONE LADY IS NOT GOING TO DRIVE.

SHE'S THERE FOR A YEAR ALREADY.

SHE, SHE DOESN'T HAVE A LICENSE OR ANYTHING AND, UH, I THINK, UH, ANOTHER UM, PERSON ALSO DOES NOT.

HE HAS A BICYCLE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL.

RIGHT, THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW.

YEAH.

BUT IN THE FUTURE, IF I MEANS A FUTURE, IF IT IS, I CAN PUT A CONDITION IN THE RENTING IN THAT WAY, SAY THIS ONE, BUT I DON'T THINK, UH, THAT'S REQUIRED.

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THANK YOU.

YEAH, SO THANK YOU.

AND JUST TO GO BACK TO, UM, COMMISSIONER REYES'S QUESTION, THERE'S MF 50 ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RAILROAD, AND THEN I BELIEVE ONE OF THE ID ZS IS ALSO WITH, UH, MULTI-UNITS, EITHER TWO, TWO UNITS OR TWO OR THREE UNITS.

EXCELLENT, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER? ON MY RIGHT? UH, YES.

COMMISSIONER HOSA, ONE QUESTION FOR STAFF.

UM, SO ADDRESSING THE PARKING, WHAT WOULD BE THE MINIMUM PARKING WITH THE ZONE CHANGE WITH, AT THIS MOMENT WITH AN IDZ? THEY HAVE NO PARKING REGULATIONS.

IF THEY DO DO THIS CHANGE OF ZONING TO AN IDZ TWO, THE MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR A THREE DWELLING UNIT IS 1.5 SPACES PER UNIT.

SO THAT WOULD EQUAL OUT TO BE 4.5, ROUNDING UP TO FIVE.

BUT IDZ TWO WAVES, UM, YOU, YOU ONLY HAVE A 50% MINIMUM REQUIREMENT.

SO WITH FIVE IT WOULD BE 2.5, WE WOULD ROUND IT UP TO THREE.

SO AT THE ANSWER IS THREE, UH, PARKING SPACES.

BUT IN THIS CASE IT WOULDN'T MATTER IF HE STAYS IDZ, IT WOULD, THERE IS NO PARKING MINIMUM.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, WELL THEN, BUT HE IS NOT ASKING TO REMAIN IDZ.

HE'S ASKING TO GO TO IDZ TWO.

HE'S REQUESTING TO GO TO IDZ TWO, WHICH WOULD ENFORCE HIM TO HAVE THREE UNITS OR THREE SPACES.

THANK YOU.

GOTCHA.

AND WE DON'T, OH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.

YES.

BACK ON THE SAME QUESTION.

OKAY, SO YOU CLARIFIED IT EVEN MORE FOR ME.

SO YOU GUYS ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.

SO HE DOES HAVE THREE SPACES AS FAR AS SPACE FOR THREE SPACES, BECAUSE I SEE THE ONE DRIVEWAY, BUT IT SEEMS PRETTY LONG.

CORRECT.

HE HAS THE DRIVEWAY COMING UP AT THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE.

THAT WOULD, WOULD, SHOULD REASONABLY COVER THREE SPACES.

IT'LL DEFINITELY BE ENFORCED WHEN HE SUBMITS PERMITTING.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL? OKAY.

CAN I ASK A QUESTION FIRST AND THEN I'LL COME BACK TO YOU? OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

I GOT THE HAMMER OVER HERE.

.

UM, SO, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, REGARDING PARKING, SO TANDEM PARKING IS, IS ALLOWED THEN AS A APPROPRIATE, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU CAN PARK IN FRONT OF EACH OTHER.

THAT'S, THAT IS ALLOWED AS CORRECT.

OKAY.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING.

AGAIN, RESIDENTIAL, NOT COMMERCIAL.

UM, UM, ALL RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE TO YOU.

YEAH, SO GOING BACK TO THAT, WHAT, WHAT DOES THE CITY CONSIDER A PARKING SPOT? I, I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE WIDTH.

12.5 IS PLENTY WIDE FOR A PARKING SPOT, BUT I THOUGHT 20 WAS TYPICALLY THE LINK THAT A PARKING SPOT WAS CONSIDERED TO BE.

AND IN THIS CASE, THE DRIVEWAY IS 40 FEET, WHICH WOULD LEAVE US WITH TWO.

WE WILL HAVE TO CONFIRM WITH OUR TRAFFIC TEAM.

OKAY.

I I I THINK STANDARDS ARE 20.

YES.

UM, SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE KIND OF A PROBLEM THERE.

UM, ALRIGHT MR. CHAIR, THAT, THAT WAS MY LAST QUESTION.

ALRIGHT, WELL BACK TO YOU FOR A MOTION.

ALRIGHT, SO LIKE MANY OF OUR CASES, THIS IS DIFFICULT BECAUSE WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO PURCHASED A PROPERTY WITH THE EXPECTATION OF THREE UNITS.

UM, PREVIOUS OWNER WASN'T DOING WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE ELECTRICAL METERS ARE A DIFFICULT PROBLEM BECAUSE IT'S A CATCH 22.

AT SOME POINT CPS WON'T GIVE YOU THREE METERS IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE ZONING FOR THREE UNITS TYPICALLY, IF THEY'RE FOLLOWING THE RULES.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THAT HAS SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS AND FEELS LIKE THEY'RE BEING INUNDATED WITH A NUMBER OF VERY SHORT TERM RENTALS, UM, THAT FEEL THE EFFECTS OF THE MF 50 ACROSS THE RAILROAD TRACKS FROM THIS PROJECT, WHICH IS HAVEN FOR HOPE.

UM, I HAVE CONCERNS REGARDING THE STAFF'S APPROVAL STAFF, AS ALWAYS HAS DONE GOOD WORK.

UH, I WAS HOPING TO TRAP 'EM ON THE DWELLING UNIT THING, BUT I WASN'T ABLE TO.

UM, AND, BUT I STILL HAVE CONCERNS REGARDING THE PARKING.

UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S CONCERNS REGARDING COLORADO STREET ARE SIGNIFICANT.

THAT IS A FAIRLY BUSY STREET THAT WILL NOT ALLOW FOR ANY STREET PARKING.

SO IF IN FACT

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THIS IS ALREADY BENEATH THE REQUIREMENTS OF IDZ TWO 'CAUSE IT CAN ONLY TRULY ACCOMMODATE TWO SPOTS.

AND WE SAW THAT EVEN AMONGST THOSE POTENTIAL TWO SPOTS, THERE IS, UH, WASTE BINS BLOCKING SOME OF THE ROOM.

UM, SO AT THIS POINT, AND WITHOUT WASTING ANY MORE AIR, YOURS OR MINE, UH, I'M GOING TO MOVE TO RECOMMEND DENIAL.

ALL RIGHT.

THERE IS A MOTION FOR DENIAL.

IS THERE? I'LL SECOND WITH THIS.

ALRIGHT.

THERE IS A MOTION FOR DENIAL BY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ.

DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER IS ON MY LEFT.

COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? NO, I WAS GONNA SAY I'LL BE SUPPORTING, UH, BUSTAMONTE IS MEETING.

'CAUSE THE FACT THAT THAT STREET IS TOO CONGESTED IN THE BACK.

IF THREE CARS CANNOT FIT WITHIN 20 FOOT, THERE'S GONNA BE CONGESTION FOR THE FUTURE FOR ANYBODY THAT'S GONNA TRY TO PARK THERE.

AND ONCE THIS CHANGE IS MADE PERMANENTLY, THEN IT'S, IT'S MADE FOREVER.

SO THAT'S WHY I WON'T BE SUPPORT, I WILL BE SUPPORTING BUSSES DECISION.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? ALRIGHT, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER ON MY RIGHT? NONE.

ALRIGHT.

UM, MOTION IS FOR DENIAL.

ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER BUSANTE AYE.

COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? UH, YES.

COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES.

COMMISSIONER NOOSA? YES.

COMMISSIONER REYES? YES.

COMMISSIONER HUEY.

AYE.

COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES.

COMMISSIONER TUP? YES.

COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES.

CHAIR SIPES? YES.

MOTION CARRIES THIS DENIAL.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

IF WE COULD HAVE STAFF'S PRESENTATION PLEASE.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

ALEX RATANA ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS LOCATED AT 5 5 5 ENRIQUE RA PARKWAY GOING FROM C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT C TWO NA COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT AND C TWO NA COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR MOTOR VEHICLE CELLS TO C TWO CD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR OVERSIZED VEHICLE STORAGE.

THERE WERE 37 NOTICES SENT OUT.

ZERO IN FAVOR TO OPPOSED WITHIN 200 FEET.

LOS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION GAVE NO RESPONSE AND NO RESPONSE OUTSIDE THE 200 FEET.

THE PORTION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES OWN C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT C TWO AND A COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT AND C TWO AND A CD.

COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC CELLS DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR MOTOR VEHICLE CELLS ARE APPROPRIATE FOR THE SURROUNDING AREA.

GIVEN THE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY ABUTTING THE PROPERTY IN THE REAR INSIDE THE PROPOSED C TWO CD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR OVERSIZED VEHICLE STORAGE IS NOT APPROPRIATE.

COMMON LAND USE PRINCIPLES RECOMMEND THAT HIGH DENSITY SLASH INTENSITY LAND USES ARE SEPARATED BY LOWER INTENSE USES TO BUFFER AND REDUCE THE IMPACT ON RESIDENTIAL USES THAT ARE NEARBY.

OVERSIZED VEHICLE USES PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN L LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND I ONE GENERAL INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS, WHICH ARE TYPICALLY REMOVED FROM RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND COMMERCIAL USES WHICH ACCOMMODATE HIGH DENSITY OF PEOPLE AND COMMERCE.

STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND AS I UNDERSTAND, AMEND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY TO 0.5 ACRES OUT OF NCB 8 2 3 7.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE.

OOH, GOOD AFTERNOON SIR.

UH, MY NAME IS ALEJANDRO RAMIRO.

UH, AND I'M ON, ON THIS CASE.

UH, I GOT, UM, I GOT THE, THE, THE APPLICATION FOR, FOR THAT BECAUSE I USE, UH, THOSE TRAILERS.

UH, THERE ARE 53 FOOTERS THAT I USE FOR MY STORE.

I DO HAVE AN APPLIANCE STORE RIGHT NEXT TO 'EM AND I HAVE 10 BIG RIGS, 53 FOOTERS FULL OF EQUIPMENT THAT ARE LIKE THIS.

AND, UH, I TRY TO CLEAN THE YARD AND I TRY TO KEEP IT IN, IN, IN GOOD SHAPE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

UM, I EVEN GOT 10 SIGNATURES OF ALL THE, OF ALL THE NEIGHBORS AROUND MY AREA.

PUT THE PICTURE.

YES, I GOT THE, UH, SIGNATURES OF OF, OF ALL THE NEIGHBORS AROUND MY AREA.

THE OWNERS OF CITAS RESTAURANT, UH, UH, FOUR M OUT OF SUPPLY, THE PS MALINO AND, AND THE MAJORITY IS IS 10 OF THEM THAT THEY SIGN AND THEY, UH, THEY AGREE ON, ON UH, ON

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SUPPORT.

UM, SO THE, THE THING IS I USE THOSE TRAILERS TO RESTOCK MY STUFF AND SEND THEM TO HOUSTON TO PICK UP ON THE AUCTIONS FOR MY APPLIANCES, REFRIGERATORS, STOVES AND FURNITURE.

I GO TO AUCTIONS HERE IN TOWN AS WELL.

ONCE THEY'RE, ONCE I NEED MORE RESTOCK TO MY STORE, I, I, I, UH, UNLOAD THEM AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

AND I, I'VE BEEN 10 YEARS DOING THAT UNTIL NOW THAT SOMEBODY GAVE ME A TICKET AND, AND THEY ASKED ME TO TO DO THE CHANGES AND I'M TRYING TO DO THE CHANGES PROPERLY AND, UM, I WILL REALLY APPRECIATE IF YOU GUYS CONSIDER THAT ON, ON, ON BEHALF OF MY BUSINESS.

UH, THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT I HAVE TO SAY, SIR.

ALL THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? WE HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.

ALRIGHT.

THIS IS A DISTRICT SIX CASE, SO TO YOU COMMISSIONER HUEY FOR QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

SO, UH, MR. ROMERO OVER HERE, SIR.

OH, YES SIR.

HI.

SO HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN, UH, STORING OVERSIZED VEHICLES ON THAT PROPERTY? 10, 10 YEARS OR MORE OR LESS? 10 YEARS? MM-HMM, .

AND WHEN DID YOU START GETTING YOUR, UH, CODE COMPLIANCE, UH, VACATION? ABOUT A YEAR, ABOUT SEVEN MONTHS AGO OR, OR EIGHT MONTHS AGO.

AND, AND I TOLD THE LADY, UH, THE LADY'S NAME IS YOLANDA ALVAREZ AND I TOLD HER, I SAID, YOU TELL ME WHAT TO DO 'CAUSE I I'M NOT GONNA CLOSE MY STORE.

I NEED TO DO AND COMPLY WITH WHATEVER YOU GUYS NEED AND I'LL DO IT GLADLY.

AND I'M, THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING RIGHT NOW, SIR.

I'M TRYING TO FOLLOW PROCEDURES, I'VE BEEN GOING TO COURT AND STUFF LIKE THAT AND I TRIED TO RESTOCK MY STUFF, UH, AND DO IT PROPERLY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SIR.

UH, QUESTION FOR STAFF.

SO IN YOUR CONVERSATIONS WITH THE APPLICANT, WHAT OPTIONS DID YOU PROVIDE HIM? SO ALWAYS HAVE THE OPTION OF AN INDUSTRIAL USE, UM, BUT TO STAY ALIGNED WITH THE EXISTING LAND USE DESIGNATION FOR THE PROPERTY.

I BELIEVE THE LAND USE IS PART OF THE, UM, YES, IT'S GENERAL URBAN TIER, WHICH WOULD PERMIT ONLY UP TO A C TWO.

AND SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR THE OUTSIDE VEHICLE STORAGE OR THE OVERSIZED VEHICLE STORAGE.

OKAY.

UM, WHAT YOU PRESENTED WASN'T WHAT I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE YOUR CASE FOR TWO WEEKS SO WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION BECAUSE I THINK I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO WITH YOUR BUSINESS AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS NOT APPARENT.

SO, UM, I'M GONNA MOVE FOR CONTINUANCE FOR TWO WEEKS.

NOT A PROBLEM, SIR.

I'LL DO, I'LL DO, I'LL, I'LL DO WHATEVER YOU GUYS SAY.

ALRIGHT.

IS THERE SECOND? OKAY.

NO ONE WANTS TO ASK ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FIRST.

ALRIGHT.

SEEING NONE.

ALL RIGHT.

THERE'S A MO MOTION FOR A CON TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE BY COMMISSIONER UEY WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON.

DISCUSSION.

LOOKING LEFT, SEEING NONE, LOOKING RIGHT, SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER? I DID, YEAH, I DID HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.

UM, SO I SEE ALL THOSE TRAILERS.

SO THEY'RE ALL OWNED BY YOURSELF? YES SIR.

AND THEN YOU USE THOSE TO GET MERCHANDISE, YOU SAID FROM I, I REACHED, I, I, I GET 'EM PULLED OUT WHENEVER I EMPTY ONE.

I SEND THEM TO SEND THEM TO THE AUCTION TO GET, GET IT FULL AND THEN UNLOAD LITTLE BY LITTLE ON THE REST OF 'EM AND THEN SEND THE OTHER ONE.

GOTCHA.

SO YOU USE IT FOR STORAGE BASIC, BASICALLY.

AND I DO HAVE A YES AND I DO HAVE A, A, UH, A TRACTOR FOR IT, BUT I, I DON'T DRIVE MYSELF.

I, I HIRE DRIVERS.

MM-HMM.

.

MM-HMM.

.

I WISH I'D DRIVE MYSELF.

AND YOU'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS THERE YOU SAID, FOR 10 YEARS? MORE OR LESS, SIR? YES.

MORE OR LESS.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME SIR.

ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? YES.

YES.

ONE QUESTION.

OH, SORRY.

COMMISSIONER REYES.

SORRY.

OH, IT'S COMMISSIONER REYES AGAIN.

.

COMMISSIONER THE QUESTION, QUESTION FOR STAFF.

COULD YOU FOR NEXT TIME WE MEET, CAN YOU CLARIFY WHAT YOU MEAN BY OVERSIZE? 'CAUSE TRAILERS ARE LEGAL SIZED VEHICLES TO BE ON THE HIGHWAY.

SO, UH, WHEN YOU SAY OVERSIZED VEHICLES, UH, COULD YOU FOR NEXT TIME CLARIFY THAT? THANK YOU.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MAY I? YES SIR.

THEY ARE 53 FOOTERS, 53 FOOT BOX TRAILERS.

SO THOSE ARE PERMIT LOADS THEN? MM-HMM? GOT IT.

OKAY.

HE, HE ANSWERED THAT.

YEAH.

JUST SO YOU KNOW, THE, WE USE THE DEFINITION FROM THE UDC FOR AN OVERSIZED VEHICLE AND SO THAT IN, UM, INCLUDES TRAILERS THAT YOU HAVE TO, IF YOU EXCEED ONE OF THE THREE FOLLOWING DIMENSIONS, EITHER 24 FEET IN LENGTH, EIGHT FEET IN HEIGHT, OR EIGHT FEET IN WIDTH.

EXCELLENT.

THANKS.

ALRIGHT, REALLY QUICK LOOKING THAT UP.

IT IS HARD TO FIND STUFF I THINK ON THE UDC.

I'M IMPRESSED.

ALRIGHT,

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UH, MOTION IS FOR A CONTINUANCE.

ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER HUEY AYE.

COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES.

COMMISSIONER OSA? YES.

COMMISSIONER REYES? YES.

COMMISSIONER BUSANTE.

AYE.

COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES.

COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES.

COMMISSIONER TUP? YES.

COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES.

CHAIR SIPES? YES.

ITEM PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE.

ALRIGHT, MR. RAMIRO, WE'LL SEE AGAIN.

AUGUST 20TH.

TWO WEEKS? YES SIR.

ALL RIGHT.

I BELIEVE WE ARE, WE ARE JUMPING AHEAD TO ITEM NUMBER 10.

CORRECT.

ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HAVE STAFF'S PRESENTATION, I'LL START IT OFF.

UH, ITEM NUMBER 10 IS OFF OF 4 71 STERLING STREET COUNCIL.

DISTRICT TWO APPLICANT BEING YOLANDA ALVARADO GOING FROM R FOUR TO WAS I TWO C TWO AND ALSO WILL TAKE OVER.

THERE WERE 27 NOTICES SENT OUT.

ZERO IN FAVOR.

ZERO POSED WITHIN 200 FEET.

NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN THE 200 FEET AND NO RESPONSE OUTSIDE THE 200 FEET.

THE EXISTING R FOUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS IN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.

GIVEN THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY USES, THE PROPOSED C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS NOT CONSISTENT.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN A CUL-DE-SAC AT THE END OF A RESIDENTIAL STREET WITH THE ONLY ACCESS POINT TO THE PROPERTY OFF THE LOCAL STREET.

STAFF FINDS THE PROPOSED COMMERCIAL ZONING DOES NOT ALIGN WITH TYPICAL LOCATIONAL CRITERIA OF COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.

WHILE THERE ARE OTHER COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES IN PROXIMITY TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, THOSE PROPERTIES HAVE ACCESS TO MARTIN LUTHER KING DRIVE.

A SECONDARY ARTER STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE, PLEASE, CHAIR BOARD MEMBERS, STAFF.

MY NAME IS ROBERT.

I AM THE SON OF JUAN RADO.

YOLANDA RADO, MY MOTHER, YOLANDA RADO.

SHE'S HER PRESENT.

UM, REAL QUICK, 4 51 STERLING.

IF YOU LOOK AT THIS PICTURE RIGHT HERE, UH, THE BEIGE HOUSE TO YOUR LEFT SIDE, THAT'S THEIR DOMICILE.

THAT'S WHERE THEY ACTUALLY RESIDE.

THEY MOVED IN 2001.

UM, NOW THE 4 51, WHICH IS ON THE OPPOSITE RIGHT THERE, UH, IT'S, UH, DIAGONALLY TO THE LEFT.

UM, THOSE VEHICLES ARE, SOME OF THEM ARE WORKING VEHICLES, SOME OF ARE, ARE, UH, WE'RE A LARGE FAMILY OF COURSE.

UM, SO MY BROTHER'S TRUCK, UM, SOME OF THEIR VEHICLES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

THIS PROPERTY IS CONSIDERED AN R FOUR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.

THERE HAS BEEN GOING ON MATTERS WITH OF COURSE, CODE ENFORCEMENT, UH, CITATIONS AND SO FORTH.

ALL THOSE CITATIONS, UH, WHETHER IT BE PARKING VEHICLE CITATIONS OR PROPERTY CITATIONS, THEY ALL HAVE BEEN DISMISSED, UH, WHEN I HAVE GONE TO COURT, UH, TO REPRESENT THEM.

UM, ADDITIONALLY, WITH THAT SAID, UH, THIS MORNING WE ALSO REACHED OUT TO OUR NEIGHBOR FROM THE PROPERTY.

IF YOU LOOK AT IT, THE HOUSE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF IT, UH, MISS, UM, I HAVE HERS, MISS, UH, VANESSA ELLIS.

SO WE HAVE SOME OF THE, I TYPED THESE 'CAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THE MAILING BALLOT WAS SENT OUT, BUT ANYWAYS, I TYPED THESE RIGHT HERE.

UH, SO I HAVE HERS, I HAVE THE, UM, THE NEIGHBOR, I'M SORRY.

THAT'S OKAY.

I'LL LOOK AT THIS.

SO I HAVE LETTERS FROM FOUR 50 STERLING, 4 55 STERLING, UM, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 4 69.

UM, AND I ALSO HAVE 4 5 8 STERLING.

UM, IT'S IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH AGAIN IS, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, IT SAYS I NAME, UH, MR. JUAN GARCIA, WHICH IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM 4 51.

UM, JUST SAYING THAT THEY ARE IN FAVOR, IF NOT, THERE'S THEIR CONTACT NUMBER.

UM, AND IN TODAY'S DATE, OF COURSE, WHAT THEY SIGNED.

SO I DID THAT.

UM, I'VE ALSO REACHED OUT TO TEXAS DOT, UM, I GOT MR. BRIAN HANER, I LEFT HIM A VOICEMAIL, UM, ON WRITING ON HIS RESPONSE BECAUSE, UH, FOR THE PROPERTY, SORRY, ON THE PROPERTY, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S THE CARPORT AND THE CEMENT.

OKAY.

YEAH, IF, UM, IF YOU SEE THE CEMENT, UM, WE'VE BEEN, I'VE HELPED MY PARENTS OUT, UM, TRYING TO GET THIS PROPERTY ESTABLISHED BEFORE THIS.

THERE USED TO BE THE TREES, WE GOT THE PERMIT FOR THE TREES.

UM, SO IT'S BEEN A PROCESS.

IT'S A LEARNING PROCESS.

I HAVE A DEGREE IN FOOD

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SCIENCE, NOT PROPERTY OR UDC STUFF.

SO IT'S A LEARNING EXPERIENCE AS FOR MY PARENTS AS WELL.

UM, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO IMPROVE THE AREA.

AGAIN, WE, THERE USED TO BE TREES, WE'VE, UM, WE DIDN'T WANT THE VEHICLES TO BE CLEARLY PARKING ON THE GRASS AND SO, UH, SO FORTH.

SO WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO THE CEMENT, THE CARPORT BEFORE ALL OF THE FENCING AND ALL THAT STUFF.

NUMEROUS VEHICLES USED TO JUST JUMP THROUGH.

LITERALLY, UH, ONE OF THE KIDS ALMOST GOT RUN OVER WHERE VEHICLES WERE JUST JUMPING THROUGH.

UM, PEOPLE THAT LIVED DOWN THE STREET IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, NO CONSIDERATION TO THE NEIGHBORS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO MY DAD WAS LIKE, WE NEED TO PUT A FENCE.

WE PUT A FENCE, WE GOT THE PERMIT FOR THE FENCE, UM, ET CETERA.

NOW I KNOW THE GRASS LOOKS BIG RIGHT THERE, BUT NORMALLY ME, ONE OF MY BROTHERS AND STUFF, WE ALL ROTATE.

UH, WE CUT THE GRASS, NOT ONLY ON THE PROPERTY, WE ALSO REACH OUT TO THE BACK.

WE ALSO CUT THE GRASS ON THE SIDE.

SHE HAS BEEN OUT THERE CUTTING THE GRASS AS WELL.

UH, SO WE ALSO TAKE CARE OF SEATED PROPERTY AND OTHER SO FORTH.

UM, AGAIN, DAVID, WE'VE BEEN HERE, I GREW UP THERE, UH, SINCE 2001.

UM, IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD WORSE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

WE'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO IMPROVE.

WE CARE FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WE CARE FOR OUR AREA.

UM, NOW THE QUESTION IS WHY, PROBABLY ONE OF THE MAIN QUESTIONS IS WHY DO YOU WANNA MAKE IT A COMMERCIAL AGAIN WITH THE WHOLE PARKING SITUATION? UM, THAT WE'RE NOT FAMILIAR.

SO I KNOW ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WAS LIKE, JUST TO PUT IT AS A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WERE SPECIFICS.

UM, BUT SO LIKE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO PARK A VEHICLES.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS, LIKE I SAID, I WORK IN FOOD.

SO EVENTUALLY, UH, MY MOM, THEIR IDEA IS TO EVENTUALLY LIKE HAVE A FOOD TRUCK.

UM, HOPEFULLY.

UM, SO THAT WOULD ENTERTAIN THE, UH, ENTRY POINT FROM MARTIN LUTHER KING'S SIDE, UM, OF DOWN THE ROAD AND SO FORTH.

UM, NOW I'M NERVOUS.

OKAY.

SORRY, .

OKAY.

UM, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT THAT I HAVE.

I, I DON'T HAVE QUESTIONS, I GUESS.

ALRIGHT, WE'LL, WE'LL WE'LL FIND OUT.

UM, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? WE DO HAVE ONE, UM, PERSON SIGNED UP.

MS. YOLANDA ALVARADO.

THAT WAS US.

OH, WE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT.

OKAY.

UM, SO OTHER THAN THAT, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT.

ALRIGHT.

THIS IS THE DISTRICT TWO CASE.

SO TO YOU COMMISSIONER WATSON FOR QUESTIONS? YES.

JUST STAY RIGHT THERE.

UM, THEY'RE NOT HEARING QUESTIONS.

I, I CAN TELL THE NERVOUSNESS WAS COMING UP THERE TOWARD THE END OF YOUR, UM, ATION.

SO YOU GUYS DO OWN THIS LOT.

COMMISSIONER WATSON? YEAH, YOUR MIC'S NOT ON.

SORRY.

THANK YOU.

YOU GUYS DO OWN THE LOT, CORRECT? MY PARENTS DO, YES.

YES.

OKAY.

UM, AND, UH, I BELIEVE CODE IS HERE AND I DID NOTICE SOME INFORMATION ABOUT CODE IN THIS PARTICULAR REZONING REQUEST.

UM, SO I'M GONNA COME TO YOU FOR A COUPLE QUESTIONS IN A MOMENT.

UM, BUT, UH, BECAUSE YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY AND THE GRADUAL IMPROVEMENTS YOU'VE MADE OVER TIME FROM YOUR MEMORY, UM, IN TERMS OF PERMITTING, UH, THE PAVEMENT, THE CARPORT, THE FENCE, UM, DID YOU GUYS GO THROUGH THE TYPICAL PERMITTING PROCESS FOR ALL OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS? AND CAN YOU GIVE SOME MORE BACKGROUND ON THAT? THE, UM, AT THE TIME I LIVE IN APARTMENTS, I'M GONNA SAY THAT STRAIGHT.

I LIVE IN APARTMENTS.

I DIDN'T KNOW, UM, THEY, THEY WERE LIKE WHEN THEY CUT THE TREES, WE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THAT.

UM, I HAVE ALL THE PAPERWORK HERE WHERE WE CAME AND THEN, UH, FINALLY WE GOT THE PERMIT FOR THE THING FOR THE, UH, FOR THE TREES.

AND OF COURSE WE PAID THE FEE.

UM, AND THEN OF COURSE THE FENCING.

UM, SO THAT'S THE FENCING.

UH, AT THAT TIME IT'S UH, WELL IT'S CONSIDERED A VACANT LOT.

SO THIS, THAT'S WHERE I LEARNED ABOUT THE SIZES AS WELL AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO WE DO, I HAVE ALL THAT HERE, UH, FOR THE PERMITS OF THAT.

UM, THE ONLY THING, UM, ONE THING THAT I READ ON THE ONLINE WAS ABOUT THE DRIVEWAY AND STUFF.

SO I INFORMED THEM LIKE, HEY, I KNOW ON THERE IT SAYS THE DRIVEWAY, YOU COULD PUT THIS IN, YOU DON'T NEED A PERMIT.

UM, SO THAT'S DIRECTION THAT I GAVE THEM.

I'M PROBABLY, I MEAN, I'M SORRY I'M NOT CERTIFIED, BUT , UM, THE CARPORT, NO, WE DID NOT GET A PERMIT FOR THAT.

OKAY.

UH, ARE REGARDING CONTINUING PLANS FOR THIS, ARE YOU PLANNING ON AT ANY POINT, UM, ALLOWING OTHER PEOPLE TO PARK HERE FOR A FEE? NO.

OKAY.

SO YOUR ONLY FUTURE COMMERCIAL POTENTIAL USE WOULD BE THE FOOD TRUCK.

WOULD YOU JUST WANNA PARK THE FOOD TRUCK THERE OR OPERATE THE FOOD TRUCK THERE? PARK THE FOOD TRUCK THERE PO POSSIBLY OPERATE.

OKAY.

THAT'S HELPFUL.

AND THEN YOU DID, I WAS GONNA ASK THIS QUESTION, BUT YOU DID GOOD, A GOOD JOB WITH COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND MAKING SURE YOU DID, UH, TALK TO YOUR NEIGHBORS AND GET THEIR SIGNATURES.

SO APPRECIATE THAT.

AND THE BILINGUAL NATURE.

OKAY, A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

UM, IF THEY ARE NOT GOING TO USE THIS AS A COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT, IN THE SENSE THAT THEY WOULD CHARGE OTHER PEOPLE TO PARK THERE IN THE FUTURE, UM, ARE THERE ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS BESIDES C TWO IN TERMS OF ZONING FOR THAT TO

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BE POSSIBLE? YES.

UM, THEY COULD DO, KEEP THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF RESIDENTIAL AND ADD A CONDITIONAL USE.

UM, I BELIEVE THAT WAS AN OPTION.

BUT AGAIN, THE CONDITIONAL USE WILL LIMIT THEM TO ONLY ONE USE.

SO IF HE WAS TO GET THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR A NON-COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT, THE FOOD TRUCK USE WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED.

UM, AND THEN HONESTLY, STAFF IS JUST VERY, IT DOES NOT SUPPORT REALLY ANY KIND OF LIKE THE PARKING USE ANYWAYS ON THAT, THAT, UH, RESIDENTIAL ROAD IN THE AREA.

OKAY.

UM, SINCE THERE, THE PLAN WOULD NOT NECESSARILY BE FOR, UM, A COMMERCIAL TO BY UDC DEFINITION COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT, WHAT ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR THEM FOR ZONING WITH THE CD OR TYPE OF USE, UM, FOR THE FOOD TRUCK TYPE OF SCENARIO TO BE, WELL, THEY COULD DO THE A CD FOR A FOOD TRUCK SERVICE, UM, OR A FOOD SERVICE ESTABLISHMENT.

BUT AGAIN, HE WOULD HAVE TO ACTUALLY UTILIZE THE PROPERTY FOR THE FOOD TRUCK.

THEY COULDN'T STORE IT.

'CAUSE THEN THAT WOULD GO INTO THE OVERSIZED VEHICLE STORAGE, UM, SITUATION.

UH, WHICH IS CONSIDERED AN INDUSTRIAL USE.

UM, SO IT COULD BE A FOOD SERVICE ESTABLISHMENT IF HE WANTED TO GO THE FOOD SERVICE ROUTE.

BUT AGAIN, THE PARKING WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED STILL.

OKAY.

UM, IS IT POSSIBLE FOR THERE TO BE A CD USE JUST FOR THEM TO USE IT AS A NON-COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT OR WHAT KIND OF OPTIONS ARE AVAILABLE FOR THAT? AND I WILL JUST SAY HONESTLY, YOU'VE GOT A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A COMMER NON-COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT.

AND JUST TO CONFIRM, SIR, ARE THESE CARS PARKED OVERNIGHT? THEY STAY ON THE PROPERTY? YES.

OKAY.

SO HONESTLY, SORRY TO BACK UP.

A NON-COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED.

TYPICALLY WHEN YOU HAVE A, A NON-COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT, THEY'RE ONLY THERE DURING WORKING HOURS AND BUSINESS DAYS.

IF IT GOES INTO OVERNIGHT, WE'RE LOOKING AT VEHICLE STORAGE, WHICH, UM, AND I'M JUST GONNA CONFIRM IF THAT USE COULD BE USED AS A CONDITIONAL USE IN A RESIDENTIAL.

OKAY.

UM, I, I WILL HAVE A SUGGESTION BASED ON THAT.

WELL, 'CAUSE I, I THINK WE HAVE SOME OUTSTANDING QUESTIONS, UM, THAT WE NEED TO POTENTIALLY HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL TIME TO RESOLVE.

UM, CAN I KNOW CODE, A COUPLE OF CODE THINGS WERE MENTIONED AND SOME PERMITTINGS MENTIONED.

CAN I HAVE SOME CLARIFICATION ON WHETHER, UH, THIS IS ALSO A QUESTION TO STAFF WHETHER A CODE VIOLATION INITIATED THIS REZONING REQUEST.

I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE CASE.

OKAY.

UM, CAN YOU DETAIL SPECIFICALLY WHAT THE CODE VIOLATIONS WERE AND IF THEY'VE BEEN RESOLVED? IT'S THE USE OF A PARKING LOT AND A RESIDENTIAL LOT.

OKAY.

UM, ALL RIGHT.

I THINK THAT THERE IS A POTENTIALLY WORKABLE SOLUTION HERE, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE SOME MORE TIME TO EXPLORE IT.

UM, AND I WANNA GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TALKING WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS.

IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE AND THEY'LL PROBABLY BE ACCOMMODATING OF THIS REQUEST, BUT JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT CREATING FUTURE BURDEN TO THEM OR TO YOU.

UM, IN TERMS OF CODE VIOLATIONS.

SO I'M GONNA SUGGEST ACTUALLY CONTINUE THIS FOR FOUR WEEKS JUST BECAUSE DEPENDING ON WHAT WE'VE PROPOSED TO ACTUALLY MAKE THIS WORK FOR YOU, YOU MAY HAVE TO DO A SITE PLAN AND A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS WITH THE CD.

SO TO SAVE YOU LIKE TRYING TO STRESS ABOUT THIS IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, I WOULD SAY POSTPONE IT FOR FOUR WEEKS.

UM, AND WE'LL TRY TO IDENTIFY THE CD OPTION THAT BEST ACCOMMODATES WHAT YOU ALL WILL TRY TO DO, UM, AND SUPPORT YOU WITH CONTINUING TO WORK WITH TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE OKAY WITH THAT.

UM, WITH THAT, I'LL, UM, SINCE YOU SEEM AMENABLE TO THAT, UM, I HAVEN'T FORMALLY MADE A MOTION YET, BUT IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS QUESTIONS FROM MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, QUESTIONS COMMERS ON MY COMMISSIONER WITS THAT QUICK QUESTION.

UH, IF COULD THEY REPL THE TWO LOTS TOGETHER, WOULD THAT SOLVE THEIR PROBLEM? UH, IF THE PARKING IS PART OF THEIR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE HOUSE, IT'S A POSSIBILITY.

BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THEY OWN THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR.

THEY OWN THE PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET.

IT'S A GOOD THOUGHT.

ALRIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.

SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER OSA A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.

UM, WERE YOU CLEAR ON WHAT, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO DO NEXT? UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE FOUR WEEKS AND THEN THROUGHOUT THAT TIME, UM, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHICH TYPE OF CODE OR WHICH, HOW CAN WE'RE GONNA APPLY TO MAKE IT FIT GOOD IN SHORT WORDS, SORRY, I WILL EXPAND ON FURTHER SPECIFIC DIRECTIONS IN MY MOTION, BUT I WAS GONNA WORK FOR YOU.

GOT IT.

AND THEN FOR STAFF, UH, BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE FOR THE APPLICANT, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU, YOU WANNA DO TWO THINGS.

I MEAN, YOU WANNA KEEP THE CARS THERE, THE TRUCKS THERE, THE VEHICLE'S THERE OVERNIGHT, BUT THEN LONG FUTURE THINKING HE WANTS TO DO THE FOOD TRUCK BUSINESS.

UM, IT, IS THERE SOMETHING, 'CAUSE WHEN YOU WERE TALKING EARLIER, IT SEEMED LIKE THERE REALLY WASN'T ANYTHING COMPATIBLE

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FOR BOTH.

YOU CAN DO IDZ AND CALL OUT, UH, MORE THAN ONE USE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

GOT IT.

AND HIS CASE MANAGER WILL GO OVER ALL THAT WITH HIM, RIGHT? YES.

THE CASE MANAGER WILL LET HIM KNOW ALL THOSE DETAILS.

IF HE DOES OBVIOUSLY GO TO IDZ, WE'LL HAVE TO BE READVERTISED AND ALL THAT STUFF.

GOT IT.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER REYES? YEAH.

QUESTION FOR STAFF.

UH, YOU WRITING THE REPORT, THERE ARE OTHER COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES IN PROXIMITY TO THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY, HOWEVER THOSE PROPERTIES HAVE ACCESS TO MLK.

I DO SEE ON GOOGLE EARTH THAT PEOPLE ARE DIVE BOMBING OFF OF MLK CUTTING ACROSS TO ACCESS.

WHAT'S THE NAME OF THAT LOCAL STREET? UH, STERLING.

STERLING.

SO I COULD SEE YOUR CONCERN ON THAT AND THAT SHOULD PROBABLY BE ADDRESSED AS WELL.

OKAY.

YEP.

YES SIR.

THANKS.

ALRIGHT, WITH, UH, BACK TO YOU COMMISSIONER WATSON FOR A MOTION.

ALRIGHT, UM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM FOR FOUR WEEKS.

UM, GO AHEAD, I'M SORRY.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE, UH, REACHED OUT, UM, THAT I'VE MYSELF FOLLOWED FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT WAS, UM, WHERE I WAS OR I REACHED OUT TO SOMEBODY 'CAUSE I WAS TRYING TO SEE IF THEY COULD PUT LIKE THOSE, UM, THOSE WOOD STUMP THINGS.

BALLARDS, YEAH.

TO BLOCK CABLE.

CABLE.

YEAH.

BECAUSE THERE'S THE DIVIDER AND THEY STILL GO AROUND IT.

SEE, LIKE EVEN NOW IF YOU LOOK AT THE FENCE, THEY STILL CUT RIGHT THROUGH, LITERALLY THROUGH THE VIA SITTING AREA.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS TRYING TO, WE'RE TRYING TO BLOCK FROM PEOPLE COMING IN.

GOOD IDEA.

SO THANKS.

UM, SO GOING BACK TO THE MOTION, UM, FOR, FOR CLARIFYING THAT, UM, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS FOR FOUR WEEKS.

UM, I'M GONNA ASK OF THE CASE MANAGER THAT YOU PROVIDE A FEW OPTIONS FOR THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF USES.

UM, SO WE CAN HOPEFULLY FIND A BALANCE BETWEEN CONTINUING TO USE THIS THE WAY YOU HAVE BEEN, UM, IN POTENTIAL LONG-TERM PLANS.

AND THEN, UH, WE WILL, I WILL REQUEST OF VIEW AS THOSE OPTIONS BECOME AVAILABLE THAT YOU ONCE AGAIN TALK TO YOUR NEIGHBORS IN WHATEVER YOU SETTLE ON, THAT YOU DO THE SAME PROCESS, UM, AND GET WRITTEN LETTERS OF SUPPORT.

UM, AND I WOULD ALSO, UH, BECAUSE OF THE UNIQUE NATURE OF THIS PROPERTY AND THE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO, SUCH AS WORKING WITH TXDOT, WE KNOW THIS IS A PROBLEMATIC AREA FOR TRAFFIC.

UM, AND WE ARE GLAD THIS NOT, IT'S NOT A VACANT LOT.

TYPICALLY VACANT LOTS CREATE PROBLEMS FOR US, ESPECIALLY IN THIS AREA.

UM, I'M GONNA RECOMMEND, UH, IF NOT BEFORE THE NEXT ZONING COMMISSION, BUT BEFORE COUNCIL, UM, WE CAN START THIS PROCESS.

I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU.

OKAY.

UM, THAT YOU WORK WITH THE COUNCIL OFFICE ON SOME OF THOSE ADDITIONAL ITEMS SUCH AS GETTING HELP FROM TECH DOT FOR BALLARD INSTALLATION.

AND, UM, THIS ALIGNS WITH A COUPLE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING.

SO CASE MANAGER FOR AN ALTERNATIVE, UH, OR WHAT YOUR OPTIONS ARE, UM, WORKING WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS AND THEN A COUNCIL OFFICE CONNECTION TO HELP YOU WITH SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

UM, SO THAT'S DIRECTION FOR YOU.

THAT'S MY MOTION.

UM, IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SECOND, I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.

ALRIGHT.

THE MOTION IS FOR A FOUR WEEK CONTINUANCE BY COMMISSIONER WATSON WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARDOS DISCUSSION, LOOKING LEFT, SENIOR, JUST JUST A NOTE OF OBSERVATION BEFORE YOU GET INTO THE FOOD TRACK BUSINESS.

I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU TALK TO OTHER OPERATORS OF THAT 'CAUSE YOU GET INTO A DIFFERENT AREA OF PERMITS, HEALTH PERMITS AND ALL THAT.

SO TALK TO OTHER OPERATORS BEFORE YOU GET INTO THAT VENTURE.

THANK YOU.

YES, SIR.

ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSION ON MY LEFT.

SEEING NONE, NONE ON MY RIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.

MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE.

COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES.

COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES.

COMMISSIONER OSA? YES.

COMMISSIONER REYES? YES.

COMMISSIONER BUSANTE.

AYE.

COMMISSIONER HUEY AYE.

COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES.

COMMISSIONER WIT? YES.

COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES.

CHAIR SIPES? YES.

MOTION PASSES FOR A FOUR WEEK CONTINUANCE.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

WE WILL SEE YOU IN A MONTH.

ALL RIGHT.

WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 12.

IF WE COULD HAVE STAFF'S PRESENTATION.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS BRONTE FRERE, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

ITEM NUMBER 12 IS LOCATED AT 2306 AND 2316 WEST MARTIN STREET.

GOING FROM R SIX TO MF 50 ALL OVER.

LACING THE SAME.

THERE ARE 35 NOTICES SENT OUT.

SIX IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED PROSPECT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED.

AND A RESPONSE FROM WEST END HOPE AND ACTION NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION STAFF DOES FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.

THEIR PROPOSED USE IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.

THE EXISTING R SIX RESIDENTIAL AND R SIX CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR THREE DWELLING UNITS ARE APPROPRIATE ZONINGS FOR THE PROPERTY AND THE SURROUNDING AREA.

THE PROPOSED MF 50 MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT IS NOT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY SHARES THE BLOCK WITH SINGLE FAMILY ZONING.

INTRODUCING MF 50 ONTO THE

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PROPERTY, WHICH PERMITS A DENSITY OF 50 UNITS PER ACRE IS INCONSISTENT AT 0.3197 ACRES.

THE ZONING WOULD PERMIT UP TO 16 UNITS WHICH COULD NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE ABUTTING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES.

THERE IS MULTIFAMILY ZONING WITHIN PROXIMITY, BUT WITH A MAXIMUM DENSITY OF 33 UNITS PER ACRE.

STAFF RECOMMENDS THE LOWER DENSITY ZONING OF MF 33 TO BETTER SUIT THE SURROUNDING AREA, YET PROVIDE ADDITIONAL UNITS FOR THE CITY'S GROWING POPULATION.

UM, SO STAFF RECOMMEND DENIAL WITH AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF MF 33.

THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE.

HELLO, MY NAME.

MY NAME IS RUBEN TER WITH PAIN ME REMAIN INCORPORATED 70 73 SAN PEDRO.

AND WE'RE THE ENGINEER FOR THE APPLICANT.

UH, BASICALLY WE HAD A DISCUSSION WITH HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AND WE KIND OF AGREED WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF EMF 33 IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THE NUMBER OF UNIT WE HAVE FOR THE BUDGET.

ALRIGHT.

UM, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? WE DO HAVE ONE SPEAKER, MR. RUSSELL FILONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK YESTERDAY.

I WAS IN DENIAL ON THIS PROJECT UNTIL WE MET WITH MR. MOUNTAIN AND, UH, AND THE, UH, THE OWNERS AND STUFF.

WE CAME UP WITH AN AGREEMENT GOING FROM MF 50 TO MF 33, GOING DOWN TO 11 UNITS INSTEAD OF BEING IN AN APARTMENT COMPLEX WITH A GARAGE ON THE BOTTOM.

NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT INDIVIDUAL LITTLE TOWNHOUSES, WHICH, WHICH WE ARE ACCEPTABLE.

AND I SPOKE WITH GARDEN RIDGE SINCE WE'RE KIND OF LIKE BOTH, UH, ACROSS THE STREET FROM THERE.

AND THEY, THEY'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH MYSELF AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA MR. BUS MONTE WORK WITH.

SO WE'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH IT ON THAT CHANGE.

ALRIGHT, GREAT.

THANK YOU.

AND THAT IS IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE A CHANCE? I DON'T THINK YOU REALLY, THERE'S NOTHING TO REBUT IF THEY'RE IN FAVOR NECESSARILY, BUT, UH, COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS.

ALRIGHT.

OTHER COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT? NO QUE.

ALRIGHT, BACK TO YOU.

COMMISSIONER BUSANTE FOR A MOTION.

BRIEFLY.

THIS IS A, A GOOD PROJECT TO REDEVELOP, UH, AN OLD CREAMERY ON THE NEAR WEST SIDE, UM, SORT OF BETWEEN GARDENDALE AND PROSPECT HILL.

UM, I DID HAVE CONCERNS REGARDING THE NUMBER OF UNITS, BUT, UM, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, THE STAFF ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION IS APPROPRIATE AND THEY'VE AGREED TO IT.

SO I MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF THE ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER BARTOS? UH, ALRIGHT.

SO THERE IS A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF IT.

THAT WAS MF 33, I BELIEVE, CORRECT? YEAH, THAT IS CORRECT.

ALRIGHT, BY, UH, COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON.

UM, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER'S ON MY LEFT.

SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER'S ON MY RIGHT? NONE.

ALL RIGHT.

ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER BUSTA AYE.

COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES.

COMMISSIONER OSA? YES.

COMMISSIONER REYES? YES.

COMMISSIONER HUEY.

AYE.

COMMISSIONER TIZ? YES.

COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES.

COMMISSIONER WHITSETT? YES.

COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES.

CHAIR SIPES? YES.

MOTION PASSES.

ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD GO TO ITEM NUMBER 13.

I BELIEVE THAT WE HAD MOVED DOWN TO INDIVIDUAL.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS SAMANTHA BENAVIDEZ, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

ITEM NUMBER 10 IS LOCATED AT 2 8 7 6 NACODOCHES ROAD GOING FROM MF 25 CD, LOW DENSITY MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR PROFESSIONAL OFFICE TO MF 25 CD, LOW DENSITY MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR PROFESSIONAL OFFICE WITH A MAJOR SITE PLAN FOR AN INCREASE IN OVERALL BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGE AND IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE.

OH, SORRY.

SORRY.

I THINK I THINK YOU'RE DOING ITEM 10 OR ITEM.

IT'S ACTUALLY ITEM NUMBER 13.

YEAH, 13.

SORRY, IT'S SORRY.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER WATSON.

YEAH.

ACCIDENTALLY SAID 10, BUT IT IS ITEM 13 OFF OF NACODOCHES WRAP.

OH, I'M SORRY.

NO, THAT'S FINE.

IT'S FINE.

IT'S FINE.

YES IT IS.

THAT ITEM OF 13.

OKAY.

UM, ALL WITH ALL OVERLAYS STAYING THE SAME.

THERE WERE 61 NOTICES SENT OUT.

ONE IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED NO RESPONSE.

FROM FOREST OAK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND NO RESPONSE OUTSIDE OF 200 FEET.

THE EXISTING MF 25 CD, LOW DENSITY MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR PROFESSIONAL

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OFFICES AND APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.

THE PROPOSED MF 25 CD LOW DENSITY MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR PROFESSIONAL OFFICE WITH A MAJOR SITE PLAN AMENDMENT TO INCREASE OVERALL BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGE AND IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE IS ALSO APPROPRIATE.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING AN ADDITIONAL 25 PARKING SPACES AND REPLACING AN EXISTING STRUCTURE WITH A LARGER STRUCTURE.

ADDING 2,900 SQUARE FEET STAFF FINDS THAT THE 5.801 ACRES ACRE PROPERTY CAN REASONABLY ACCOMMODATE THE ADDITIONAL PARKING AND BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGE WHILE KEEPING A RESIDENTIAL APPEARANCE TO COMPLIMENT THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

THE REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

IF WE COULD HAVE THAT APPLICANT PLEASE.

HELLO, MY NAME IS DAVID MARTINEZ WITH PAPE DAWSON ENGINEERS.

I'M HERE WITH THE CURRENT OWNER AND I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

ALL RIGHT, GREAT.

AND WE HEARD PUBLIC COMMENT, SO WE WILL MOVE TO, UH, COMMISSIONER WHITSETT FOR QUESTIONS.

UM, I GUESS I'D REALLY LIKE TO KIND OF GET AN UNDERSTANDING AND OF WHAT Y'ALL ARE INTERESTED IN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, IS TRYING TO GAIN OUT OF THIS.

AGAIN, I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS ANY, UH, RESISTANCE TO THIS.

UH, I HADN'T BEEN CONTACTED AND AT THE COUNCILMAN'S OFFICE WAS CONTACTED.

I DIDN'T, UH, THEY DIDN'T LET ME KNOW.

SO, UM, CAN Y'ALL STEP BACK UP AND, UH, JUST SORT OF QUICKLY SUMMARIZE WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE? SURE.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.

UH, IF I COULD, UH, JUSTIN RICE WERE AND SARAH RICE WERE AT 88 30 PINE RIDGE ROAD.

IF YOU, UH, LOOK ON THE, OR ACTUALLY CAN YOU GO TO THE MAP, THE COLOR MAP SHOWING THE DIFFERENT LOTS.

HERE'S A POINTER.

OH, OKAY.

SO WE'RE, UM, WE'RE THAT HOUSE RIGHT THERE.

AND THEN WE'VE GOTTEN THE OWNER OF THIS NEIGHBOR AND THEN THIS NEIGHBOR, WE WOULD ALL LIKE TO SEE A PRIVACY FENCE IN THAT SECTION THAT'S RIGHT THERE TO THERE.

UM, RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST A CHAIN LINK FENCE.

IT PRETTY MUCH FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS, WE'VE JUST BEEN LOOKING AT AN OPEN CONSTRUCTION SITE.

UM, A LOT OF NOISE, A LOT OF DUST, PARTICULARLY WHEN THEY'RE JACK HAMMERING.

AND IF WINDS ARE FROM THE NORTH, THAT ALL BLOWS INTO OUR BACKYARD.

UM, WE ALSO HAVE KID, WE HAVE A 10-YEAR-OLD SON IN OUR HOUSE.

OUR NEIGHBOR HAS KIDS THAT THEY HOMESCHOOL.

UM, WE ALSO HAVE THE NEIGHBOR, UM, TO THE, I GUESS IT WOULD BE TO THE SOUTHEAST OF US.

SHE'S ELDERLY AND EXPERIENCING ONSET DEMENTIA.

THE NEIGHBOR, UH, TO THE NORTH AND WEST OF US THAT HAVE THE TWO KIDS THAT ARE BEING HOMESCHOOLED.

THERE'S ALSO A, A GRANDMOTHER THAT LIVES THERE AND SHE'S GOT DEMENTIA.

BUT WE'VE, WE'VE JUST HAD A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH, WITH EXCESSIVE NOISE, UH, VULGARITIES FROM WORKERS, UH, BLASTING MUSIC.

UM, AND I, YOU KNOW, WHEN I LOOK AT COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, IT WENT FROM RESIDENTIAL TO ESSENTIALLY A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.

GRANTED IT'S AN OFFICE, BUT THERE, YOU KNOW, USUALLY I SEE PRIVACY FENCES GO UP AND I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR ACTUALLY BOTH OF US.

UM, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT.

UH, THE OTHER THING IS THE NOISE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY CONDITIONS THAT CAN BE PLACED, BUT WE, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF TIMES IN THE PAST WHERE HEAVY CONSTRUCTION HAS STARTED VERY EARLY IN THE MORNING, EVEN ON WEEKENDS.

AND WE JUST, WE JUST WANT PEACE TO ENJOY OUR HOME.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? YEAH, I THINK I JUST WANNA ADD THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT AGAINST APPROVING, BUT WE DO WANT IT TO BE CONDITIONAL ON HAVING THE PRIVACY FENCE AND THEN STIPULATIONS ON WHEN THE NOISE CAN OCCUR.

I'LL ASK STAFF, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING YOU CAN DO ON THE NOISE ISSUE REALLY.

UH, OR WORK WHILE THEY'RE UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

AND USUALLY THERE IS A CONDITION FOR LIKE, NO OUTDOOR, UM, LIKE STEREO SPEAKERS OR WHATNOT.

NOTHING PER SE.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE A CODE MATTER DURING THE CONSTRUCTION TIME.

UM, I'M NOT CERTAIN, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY GET THAT INFORMATION CLARIFIED DURING THE CONSTRUCTION HOURS, UM, ABOUT HOURS AND NOISE AND ALL THAT.

BUT AS FOR FENCING, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE ADDED ON THE CONDITIONAL USE.

I WILL SAY ALSO, UM, WE DO HAVE SOMETHING IN THE UDC FOR USES, UH, PROPERTIES THAT ARE ZONED NON-RESIDENTIAL OR, UH, RESIDENTIAL USES THAT INCLUDE A CONDITIONAL

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USE FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL USES AS A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE.

UM, A FENCE A, UM, THEY SHALL ERECT AND MAINTAIN A SOLID SCREEN FENCE ALONG PROPERTIES THAT ADJACENT TO EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE.

SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, SHOULD BE MANDATED NONETHELESS.

OKAY, EXCELLENT.

SO IF I UNDERSTAND IT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TWO LOTS RIGHT THERE THAT, UH, Y'ALL ARE MAKING THAT REQUEST FOR THREE.

THREE.

SO THERE THERE ARE THREE, THERE'S THE, YOU HAVE THE POINTER, UM, THERE'S THE, THE CORNER ONE AND THEN WE ARE, UM, YES, A LITTLE BIT, SAY THE CORNER.

YOU SAID OVER, I'M SORRY IF I CAN JUMP IN.

SO WE'RE HERE OUR THREE NEIGHBORS, THREE LOTS.

BUT THE FENCE WOULD JUST BE ONLY ALONG TWO OF, OF THE, OF THE LOTS.

MM-HMM.

.

SO, AND YOU'RE REQUESTING AN EIGHT FOOT SOLID SCREEN MINIMUM OF EIGHT WELL, PER CODE IT NOW HAS TO BE A SOLID SCREEN.

AND YOU WOULD LIKE IT TO BE EIGHT FEET.

YEAH.

AND I ALSO, THERE, THERE ARE ON THE, I THINK IT'S THE, CALL IT THE SOUTH, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS TRUE TO NORTH, BUT ANYWAY, THE SOUTHEAST BOUNDARY, YOU CAN SEE IT TOUCHES THREE LOTS.

I THINK THAT IS JUST CHANG LINK FENCE ALSO.

MM-HMM.

.

BUT I CAN'T SPEAK.

DO YOU, DO Y'ALL, IF WE MAY, ARE Y'ALL OPEN TO AN AMENDMENT TO UH, PUT A YES.

YEAH, THE OWNER IS OPEN TO THE SOLID.

SO THIS DOES NOT NEED TO BE INCLUDED.

THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE A SIX FOOT PRIVACY FENCE ALONG RESIDENTIAL LOTS TO INCLUDE WHERE THAT ALLEY IS GO TO EIGHT, THEY NEED TO AMEND IT TO GO TO EIGHT.

TO GO TO EIGHT.

YES.

YES.

ACTUALLY EIGHT FOOT FENCE PERMITTED BY.

RIGHT, BECAUSE THAT'S A MF NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL.

SO IT'S PERMITTED BY RIGHT.

YEAH, BUT THEY WOULD, BUT WE WOULD NOT ENFORCE AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE.

WE COULD ONLY ENFORCE SIX FOOT.

SO WE NEED TO ADD YES, THAT THEY WILL BE AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE.

IF THEY'RE WILLING TO AMEND, WE CAN HAVE THAT IN THE ORDINANCE AND I THINK THAT WOULD MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY AND OKAY.

AND THEN THEY'LL WORK CLOSELY.

UM, THEY'LL, THEY'LL TRY TO ARREST.

CAN YOU SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE? SURE.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

AND THE LANDOWNERS INFORM ME THEY, THAT THEY WILL WORK WITH THE, THE NEIGHBOR AND, AND MAYBE HAVE A DIRECT LINE OF COMMUNICATION FOR ANY NOISE COMPLAINTS.

ARE YOU PART OF THE OWNERSHIP OR NO, I'M ONE OF THE RESIDENTS ALSO IN R SIX AND I DID LEAVE A VOICEMAIL ON YESTERDAY, BUT I'M NOT SURE WHY I VOICE INCLUDED.

I HAD THE SAME CONCERNS.

SO, MR. CHAIR, CAN YOU HAVE HIM COME TO THE MIC PLEASE? YES SIR.

IF YOU COULD JUST INTRODUCE YOURSELF.

YES.

MY NAME IS TIM COX.

I LIVE AT R SIX, WHICH IS UP THE ALLEY COMING TOWARDS OAK LEDGE.

AND I LEFT, I DID LEAVE A VOICEMAIL YESTERDAY, BUT FOR SOME REASON IT WASN'T INCLUDED.

BUT I HAD, I HAD THE SAME CONCERNS, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S GONNA BE A PRIVACY FENCE 'CAUSE WE DID CHANGE 'CAUSE OUR BATHROOM FACES THAT WAY.

OUR MASTER BATH.

AND WE DID HAVE TO CHANGE TWO WINDOWS BECAUSE IN THE DARKER MONTHS WHEN IN THE MORNING THERE'D BE A CAR PARKED WITH THE LIGHTS SHINING DIRECTLY INTO OUR BATHROOM.

SO WE CHANGED THE WINDOWS SO YOU COULDN'T SEE THROUGH IT.

BUT THAT'S JUST A CONCERN.

PRIVACY MATTERS.

SAME.

SO YOU'RE THE LOT FRONTING NAKEDS, YOU, YOU SAY YOU'RE R SIX? NO, WE'RE ON OAK LEDGE.

I THINK IT'S R SIX.

SURE.

THIN ONE.

THE THIN THEY'RE VERY THIN ONE RIGHT THERE.

YEP.

OKAY.

AND THAT IS A CHAIN LINK.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IF IT'S AN EQUIPMENT FOR A, A SOLID WALL FENCE, THAT IT, YOU SAID IT INCLUDES ALL THE RESIDENTS.

OKAY.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT WE'VE GOT IS THEY HAVE TO DO THE FENCE SIX FOOT, BUT WE WANT 'EM TO BE SPECIFIC TO AGREE TO AN EIGHT FOOT.

IF THEY AGREE TO AN EIGHT FOOT, WE CAN ADD THE CONDITION TO THE, UM, TO THE ORDINANCE.

CORRECT.

BUT THEY WOULD HAVE TO AMEND AT THE PODIUM ALSO, IF I COULD JUST STEP IN, THIS IS AUDREY'S MOORE WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE RELATED TO THE CONSTRUCTION, UH, QUESTION.

I BELIEVE THAT QUESTION.

I BELIEVE THAT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO DOES HAVE RULES RELATED TO CONSTRUCTION AND NOISE RELATED TO CONSTRUCTION SPECIFICALLY.

SO I'M GONNA HAND IT OVER TO AMIN, WHO'S THE DIRECTOR? HI EVERYONE.

AMIN THOMAS DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

SO YES, WE HAVE UH, CITY CODE CHAPTER 21.

IT DOES TALK ABOUT NOISE.

ACTUALLY THAT IS THE CHAPTER FOUR NOISE IN GENERAL, BUT IT DOES HAVE SUBSECTIONS AND TALKS ABOUT CONSTRUCTION NOISE SPECIFICALLY.

AND THERE IS SOME TIMEFRAME.

SO I NOTICED, OR I HEARD YOU SAID FOUR FIVE IN THE MORNING.

UM, CONSTRUCTION CANNOT START BEFORE 7:00 AM ON, UH, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.

SO THEY START 7:00 AM TO 8:00 PM MONDAY TO FRIDAY, AND THEN FROM 8:00 AM TO 8:00 PM ON SATURDAY AND 9:00 AM TO 5:00 PM ON SUNDAY.

THOSE ARE THE ALLOWED TIMES.

IF THEY DO WORK OUTSIDE THAT TIMEFRAME, YOU

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CAN DEFINITELY CALL 3 1 1 AND, UH, CREATE A CASE BASICALLY.

CAN I MAKE ONE MORE COMMENT? YOU HAVE ANOTHER, JUST TO REITERATE WHY.

ANOTHER REASON THAT THE THE EIGHT FOOT, UM, WE PREFER OVER SIX FOOT IS THEY DO HAVE SECURITY LIGHTING, WHICH I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND AS A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.

BUT AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE WOULD ALSO HELP THAT FROM SHINING INTO OUR BACK WINDOWS OF OUR HOUSE.

, THERE ARE RULES ON DOWN LIGHTING AND THAT I, THAT THEY NEED TO FOLLOW.

SO.

OKAY.

SO WE HAVE, UH, AN AGREEMENT, IF I UNDERSTAND, TO AMEND, UH, TO EIGHT FEET.

IS THAT CORRECT, SIR? UH, YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THAT'S A MOTION TO APPROVE.

A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH AMENDMENT TO BUILD AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE, UH, MEETING CITY CODE, UH, AS REQUIRED.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

ALRIGHT, DISCUSSION.

COMMISSIONER BUSTA, YOU LOOK LIKE YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING.

AND, AND JUST TO BE VERY CLEAR, UM, THAT'S THE EIGHT FOOT FENCE ON ALL PROPERTIES, ALL RESIDENTIAL LOTS ABUTTING THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, CORRECT.

COMMISSIONER? WHAT'S IT? THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO.

YES.

YEAH.

UH, CORRECT.

THEY'VE GOTTA FOLLOWED THAT AROUND WHEREVER THERE'S RESIDENTIAL.

JUST WANNA CONFIRM.

YES.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU WAYNE.

I WAS CONFIRMING.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? UH, COMMISSIONER ORTIZ.

I JUST THANK THE RESIDENTS FOR COMING IN AND VOICING THEIR, UH, OPINION AND BEING ABLE TO GET THIS, UH, RESOLUTION FOR YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ALRIGHT, OTHER DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT? COMMISSIONER REYES? YES.

I THINK WE COVERED THE LIMITS OF THE FENCE, BUT THE TIME TIMELINESS OF THE FENCE HAS TO BE CLEAR AS WELL.

EXCUSE ME.

'CAUSE THEY WANT IT DURING THE CONSTRUCTION, NOT WHEN THE PROJECT'S FINISHED.

SO THAT NEEDS TO BE CLARIFIED.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE ZONING WOULD REGULATE THAT.

WELL, THOSE ARE THEIR WISHES.

SO WE NEED A, WE NEED TO CLARIFY THAT.

YEAH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING.

AND I'M LOOKING BACK AND AUDREY'S IGNORING ME, BUT THAT'S FINE.

THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT, THAT WOULD BE, UM, YEAH, THAT, THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE ZONING COMMISSION'S PURVIEW.

YOU CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ABOUT THE FENCE AND THE SIZE AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

BUT WHEN IT ACTUALLY GETS PUT UP IS D AND THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.

THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT IT UP.

RIGHT.

IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF Y'ALL WOULD WORK WITH THEM TO TRY TO DO THE FENCING, UH, EARLIER THAN LATER.

YES.

ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA QUESTION FOR STAT AGAIN, JUST CLARIFICATION.

SO THE EIGHT FOOT FENCE IS GONNA BE AMENDED, EIGHT FOOT FENCE AROUND ALL RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.

IT WOULD BE AROUND THE PROPERTY WHEN IT'S ABUTTING A RESIDENTIAL USE PROPERTY.

SO OBVIOUSLY NOT ALONG THE FRONT.

UM, ALONG NACODOCHES WE DON'T WANT EIGHT FOOT, BUT IT WOULD BE ALONG THE SIDES AND THE REAR THAT ARE ABUTTING.

THE THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, THE ESTABLISHED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES.

BECAUSE I DID NOTICE A COUPLE MORE.

UM, AND I'M UNFAMILIAR WITH THIS.

NNP EIGHT.

NP EIGHT IS A NEIGHBORHOOD PRESERVATION, WHICH IS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

OKAY.

MM-HMM, .

OKAY.

SO JUST TO GET CLARIFICATION FOR THE NEIGHBORS, JUST TO UNDERSTAND LIKE EVEN THE NEIGHBORS ARE NOT HERE.

UH, 'CAUSE YOU GUYS ARE THE SQUEAKY WHEEL, RIGHT? YOU GOT THE OIL, BUT YOU GOT IT FOR EVERYBODY.

SO THAT'S GOOD.

YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.

ONE MORE STATEMENT.

UM, GIVEN THAT THE FENCE WOULD BE AROUND THE ENTIRE PROPERTY, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME MORE TIME TO WORK IT OUT WITH THE NEIGHBORS.

YOU WANT US TO POSTPONE THIS? YES.

CONTINUE.

CONTINUE.

OKAY.

CONTINUE IT SO WE CAN WORK OUT, UH, THE EXACT LIMITS.

OKAY.

THAT'S, YOU WANT TWO WEEKS? YES.

ALRIGHT, LET'S DO, LET'S CONTINUE FOR TWO WEEKS.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, THE, YOU ALREADY MADE THE MOTION.

ARE YOU WITHDRAWING YOUR MOTION? I WILL WITHDRAW MY MOTION AND, UH, MODIFY IT, UH, AS NEEDED.

I'M ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

UM, IT, DO WE HAVE A SECOND FOR THE CONTINUANCE? I'LL SECOND.

ALRIGHT.

THE MOTION IS FOR A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE SO THAT, UM, THE PROPER EXTENTS OF THE FENCE MAY BE DETERMINED.

MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WIT TSET.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARDOS.

WE'VE ALREADY HAD DISCUSSION.

ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER TSET? YES.

COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES.

COMMISSIONER WATSON?

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YES.

COMMISSIONER NOOSA.

AYE.

COMMISSIONER REYES? YES.

AND COMMISSIONER BUSANTE EXITED AT 2:36 PM COMMISSIONER HUEY AYE.

COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES.

COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES.

CHAIR SIPES? YES.

ITEM PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE.

ALRIGHT, LET ME ASK THE COMMISSION FIVE, 10 MINUTE BREAK BEFORE WE START THE BIG CASE.

YES.

YES.

ALRIGHT.

WE ARE GONNA TAKE A SHORT 10 MINUTE BREAK AND, UM, RECONVENE.

SO THE TIME IS TWO, OH MY GOSH, TWO, ALMOST 2 38.

SEE, SERVICE SAYS, UM, NONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE RAISED AT THE LAST MEETING.

THERE HAS BEEN NO SOLUTIONS AND NO CONTACT WITH ANYONE.

I BELIEVE THAT THIS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS TO NOT PURSUE THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX.

UM, IT'S TOO MANY FAMILIES.

THERE'S 85 FAMILIES, PROBABLY ABOUT 200 CARS, WHICH IS TOO MUCH TRAFFIC.

PLEASE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION ALL OF THIS.

THANK YOU.

HAVE A GOOD DAY.

HELLO, MY NAME IS ELOISE CASTILLO.

MY TELEPHONE NUMBER IS AREA CODE (210) 730-2588.

AND I LIVE IN DISTRICT 10.

AND MY ADDRESS IS 5 1 1 0 CERTA, S-I-R-R-E-T-T-A.

I'M CALLING TO INFORM YOU THAT I SUPPORT THE APPLICATION FOR A ZONING CHANGE TO MXD FOR THE PROPOSED MULTI-FAMILY COMMUNITY AT VISTA PARK.

IT'S LOCATED ON CHES AND SPRING FARM STREET, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 4 7.

I HAVE BEEN A HOMEOWNER IN THE VALENCIA SUBDIVISION, LOCATED 1.3 MILES FROM THE VISTA PARKSIDE FOR OVER 43 YEARS.

SO I KNOW THIS COMMUNITY VERY WELL.

I HAVE HEARD FROM THE DEVELOPER AND THEIR DESIGN IS CONSISTENT WITH A SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.

I AM ALSO FAMILIAR WITH THE WORK AND STRONG REPUTATION OF THIS DEVELOPER.

SO I AM CONFIDENT THAT VISTA PARK WILL BE AN ASSET TO OUR COMMUNITY.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO ME THAT WE SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS AS OUR CITY CONTINUES TO GROW REGARDLESS OF INCOME LEVEL, WE CANNOT LET NIMBY VOICES DROWN OUT THE VOICES OF HARDWORKING ESSENTIAL MEMBERS OF A COMMUNITY THAT DESERVE A HIGH QUALITY AND AFFORDABLE PLACE TO LIVE.

THIS AREA IS IDEAL FOR AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE IT CAN PROVIDE GREATER OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR RESIDENTS, INCLUDING ACCESS TO HIGH PERFORMING SCHOOLS AND A HIGH QUALITY PRE-K PRE-K AND IT'S SO CLOSE TO THE BUS IN TRANSIT.

HELLO, MY NAME IS LISA BOND.

MY PHONE NUMBER IS (915) 549-0915.

MY ADDRESS IS 58 0 7 SPRING, UH, SPRING VALLEY.

I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO THE CASE ENDING IN 0 4 7.

I'M CALLING TO EXPRESS MY OPPOSITION FOR ADDING THIS 85 UM, UNIT APARTMENT BUILDING ON, UM, NACODOCHES AND SPRING CREEK.

OUR SCHOOLS ARE ALREADY CROWDED.

THIS WILL OVERCROWD OUR CONTINUE TO OVERCROWD OUR SCHOOLS.

UM, IT'LL ALSO BE A HUGE BURDEN ON OUR MEDICAL EMERGENCY FACILITIES AND IT'LL BE DIFFICULT FOR EVERYBODY, UH, TO GET THE PROPER CARE THEY NEED WHEN THEY NEED IT.

THERE'S ALSO ALREADY A TRAFFIC CONGESTION ON OSIS.

THIS WILL MAKE IT SO MUCH WORSE AND MORE DANGEROUS.

YOU ALREADY CANNOT HAVE, YOU ALREADY CAN'T DO ANY WALKING OUTSIDE THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE OF THE CONGESTION.

THIS WILL MAKE IT, UH, VERY, VERY, UH, DANGEROUS.

IT'LL, UH, LOWER OUR HOUSING VALUES THERE.

WE TRY VERY HARD TO KEEP OUR HOUSES UP AND OUR VALUES UP AND THIS WILL JUST BRING IT DOWN.

AND ALSO THE STRAIN ON UTILITIES.

UM, IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE TOO MUCH.

WE ALREADY HAVE 20,000 RESIDENTS AND, UM, PEOPLE LIVING IN THIS AREA.

IT IS NOT A GOOD IDEA FOR OUR AREA.

AND I FEEL LIKE YOU ARE NOT TAKING OUR, UM, OPPOSITION INTO CONSIDERATION.

I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT YOU DO NOT PASS THIS SONY.

THANK YOU.

CATHERINE ARDI FIVE EIGHT ONE FOUR SPRING SQUARE.

PHONE

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NUMBER IS TWO TEN TWO FOUR EIGHT SIX FOUR NINE ONE.

CASE NUMBER 0 4 7.

I'M OPPOSED TO A CHANGE IN THE ZONING, UM, FOR SEVERAL REASONS.

ONE, UH, THE IMPERVIOUS MATERIAL, UH, CONSTRUCTION WILL POSSIBLY HAVE A CHANGE IN THE DRAINING AND FLOODING TO NEARBY HOMES AND STREETS.

INCREASED TRAFFIC ON NACODOCHES ROAD.

THE CONGESTION IS ALREADY IN 10 EXIT FROM MULTIPLE, UH, APARTMENTS IN THAT SAME AREA.

UM, THE DEVELOPER MAY BE GETTING A TAX BREAK, BUT WE HOMEOWNERS STILL HAVE TO PAY THE FULL TAXES.

THAT DOESN'T SEEM, UH, QUITE CORRECT.

UM, IN ADDITION, UM, ADDITIONAL FAMILIES WILL REQUIRE ADDITIONAL EMERGENCY AND A POLICE COVERAGE, WHICH WILL REDUCE THE, THE COMM, THE COMM, UM, RESPONSE TIME TO THE EXISTING COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

HI, MY NAME IS KAREN M. ROSE, FIVE SEVEN THREE NINE SPRING WATCH.

PHONE IS (210) 414-4161.

THE CASE LAST THREE DIGITS ARE 0 4 7 AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE PLACING AN APARTMENT BUILDING IN THAT LITTLE STRIP OF GRASS BY NACODOCHES AND SPRING FARM.

THERE'S MANY REASONS THAT WE'RE LINED OUT CLEARLY AT OUR LAST MEETINGS.

SPECIFICALLY THE PROXIMITY TO A DAYCARE, A VERY BUSY DAYCARE, PROXIMITY TO THE NEIGHBOR'S BACK FENCE AS THIS IS A NARROW STRIP OF LAND.

THE AVAILABILITY OF SO MANY APARTMENTS IN THIS AREA, I MEAN, IT'S ENDLESS HOW MANY APARTMENTS WE HAVE EVEN WITHIN ONE MILE OF THIS PROPOSAL.

IT'S NOT THAT IT'S ALREADY ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL, THERE'S NOT A VALID REASON TO CHANGE IT.

JUST LEAVE IT AS IT IS.

THERE HAVE BEEN MULTIPLE CAR WRECKS RIGHT THERE AT SPRING CREEK AND SPRING FARM.

THERE WAS ONE LAST WEEK AND ONE THE WEEK BEFORE.

I'M TALKING SERIOUS AUTOMOBILE ACCIDENTS.

SO WHY WOULD WE INCREASE THE TRAFFIC WHEN THE, WHEN WE CAN HARDLY GET OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ALREADY.

SPRING CREEK IS AT CAPACITY.

WE DON'T NEED TO BUILD ANYTHING THERE, BUT ESPECIALLY AN APARTMENT COMPLEX WITH A DAYCARE CENTER.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

GOODBYE.

HI, THIS IS KATHY SMITH.

UH, I'M CALLING ABOUT 0 4 7.

I WANTED TO PUT IN A PROTEST, UH, ABOUT THE CHANGES BEING PROPOSED BY THE DEVELOPER.

THE DEVELOPER HAS NOT GOTTEN BACK TO US.

HE'S NOT WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME MORE COOPERATION AND COMMUNICATION ALSO TO BUILD 85 DWELLINGS OR APARTMENTS OR WHATEVER THEY'RE CALLED.

UH, IT'S GONNA PUT A STRAIN ON THE WATER SUPPLY AND, UH, IT'S GONNA BUILD UP WATER ON THE WATERSHED.

IT'S GONNA TAKE OUT TREES FOR SHADE, WHICH I KNOW THE ZONING COMMISSION DOESN'T CARE ABOUT, BUT WE DO AS NEIGHBORS.

SO WE'RE TOTALLY AGAINST IT.

AGAIN, THIS IS KATHY SMITH.

PHONE NUMBER TWO TEN EIGHT SIX THREE ZERO THREE THREE ONE.

UH, TODAY IS MONDAY.

IT'S IS 1230 APPROXIMATELY.

THANK YOU.

BYE.

THIS IS MONICA YDA, 6 0 2 3 SPRING VALLEY, 7 8 2 4 7 2 1 0 8 8 5 4 7 4 5.

CASE NUMBER 0 4 7.

UM, I'M JUST JOINING MY VOICE TO THE CONCERNED RESIDENTS REGARDING THE REZONING OF THE PROPERTY IS A 1400 BLOCK OF OSH.

SOMETHING IMPORTANT FACT THAT HASN'T BEEN MENTIONED IS TO CONSIDER THAT OUR AREA SCHOOLS ARE ALREADY OVERCROWDED.

MY GRANDSON ATTENDS GLASS IN PORTABLES AT LAUNCH CREEK ELEMENTARY AND AT MADISON HIGH SCHOOL.

AND LAST YEAR DURING THE LOCKDOWN, HE SHARED HOW THEY HAD A SHELTER IN PLACE IN THE WOOD AFFORDABLES AND THE STUDENTS FELT VERY VULNERABLE.

THE TEACHER EVEN HAD THE STUDENTS TURN HER DESK IN FRONT OF THE DOOR TO LOCK IT.

I AGREE WITH THE OTHER ISSUES THAT THE BUILDING OF THE MULTI-PURPOSE HOUSING IMPACT WILL BE INCREASED TRAFFIC, WHICH ALREADY MAKES OUR EXITING OUR COMMUNITY DIFFICULT.

THE POTENTIAL INCREASE IN CRIME WITH LOW INCOME HOUSING IS KNOWN.

THE NEGATIVE IMPACT ON OUR HOUSING VALUES WILL BE PART OF THIS, THIS PROBLEM AND CONCLUSION.

WE ALREADY HAVE

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A PLETHORA OF APARTMENTS ALONG 1604 IMPACTING ALREADY STRAINED WATER AND ELECTRICAL USE.

AND THERE ARE ALREADY TWO DAYCARES NEAR THE DESIGNATED AREA.

ACCORDING TO RECENT BEAR COUNTY DEMOGRAPHIC DATA, THERE ARE OVER 20,000 RESIDENTS IN SPRINGFIELD CREEK COMMUNITY WHO WILL BE ADVERSELY IMPACTED BY THE BUILDING OF THE PROPOSED 85 UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX.

I SAY NO TO THE REZONING, WHICH USE OUR HEADS AND ENSURE INFRASTRUCTURE CAN SUPPORT THE INSANE BLINDLY BUILDING OF MULTIFAMILY COMMUNITIES IN BEXAR COUNTY.

THANK YOU FOR LISTENING AND I HOPE YOU HEAR OUR CONCERNS.

ALRIGHT, AND THAT IS IT FOR VOICEMAILS.

AND NOW WE WILL GO ON TO SPEAKERS.

FIRST WE HAVE MR. OR, UM, CIA BALAL.

ALDA.

I APOLOGIZE IF I CIO THANK YOU.

I APOLOGIZE FOR BUTCHERING YOUR NAME, SIR.

THAT'S OKAY.

SO IF YOU COULD PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.

OKAY.

MY NAME'S CIO BASAL.

I LIVE AT 5 22 VISTA EVEREST.

AND, UH, BEFORE I MOVED THERE I WAS, I WAS A HOMELESS MAN FOR ABOUT FIVE WEEKS.

'CAUSE WHERE I WAS LIVING AT, THE LADY SOLD THE, I WAS LIVING IN A GARAGE APARTMENT.

SHE SOLD THE APARTMENT.

SHE NEVER TOLD ME.

SO I, I WAS HOMELESS BEFORE I FOUND IT, BUT WHEN I CAME IN VISTA, EVEREST CAME TO SAVE MY LIFE, MAN.

'CAUSE I WAS LIVING, I WAS LIVING IN THE STREETS.

I WAS LIVING IN MY TRUCK.

SO I GOT IN THERE.

I'VE BEEN THERE THREE MONTHS NOW.

AND, UH, THEY'RE DOING A GOOD JOB.

THE APARTMENTS ARE REAL, REAL COMFORTABLE AND IT, AND WE, I'M, I HOPE THEY, THEY KEEP MOVING ON AND MAKE IT SOME MORE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

NEXT WE HAVE MR. ROY VASQUEZ AND MR. VASQUEZ WILL BE FOLLOWED BY MS. LORRAINE DIAZ.

MY NAME IS ROY VASQUEZ AND, UH, I CAME ACROSS VISTA EVEREST APARTMENTS.

I WAS LIVING WITH COUSINS AND FRIENDS AND HERE AND THERE AND IT JUST WASN'T WORKING OUT.

AND, UH, MY SAPD OFFICER FRIENDS SAID, ROY, I AM GONNA HELP GET INTO THESE APARTMENTS.

JUST BEAR WITH ME.

AND I'M GLAD THAT HE GOT ME IN THERE AND IT'S FANTASTIC.

IT'S A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE.

AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANNA MENTION ALL THIS BIT ABOUT TRAFFIC AROUND SAN ANTONIO.

I HAVE SEEN IT ALL.

I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY CHANGES IN 20 YEARS.

IT'S GONNA BUILD MORE TRAFFIC AND THAT'S IT.

BUT THIS, THIS, UM, DOWNFALL WHAT I'VE JUST BEEN HEARING ALL THIS, UH, COMMENTS, YOU KNOW, THESE PEOPLE HAVE A GREAT APARTMENT LIVING AND AFFORDABLE FOR THOSE WHO NEED IT.

AND I AM VERY GRATEFUL AND I AM VERY SATISFIED.

AND THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UH, MIX MS. LORRAINE DIAZ TO BE FOLLOWED BY MR. JACOB CONCHE.

HI, UM, MY NAME IS LORRAINE DIAZ AND I LIVE IN 1 2 7 2 7 NORTH US HIGHWAY 2 81 VISTA IN PARK.

UM, I'M UNDER LOW INCOME AND I'M DISABLED AND OBVIOUSLY THEY HELP ME OUT A LOT.

I'M ABLE, YOU KNOW, TO GO TO THE, THERE'S, UM, PARKING, ENOUGH PARKING FOR US AND THEY'RE, THEY HELP US OUT.

THE DUMPSTERS ARE RIGHT THERE.

THERE'S THE LAUNDRY ROOM AND THEY HAVE EVERYTHING THAT, THAT WE NEED FOR UNDER LOW INCOME PEOPLE.

AND I'M ABLE TO PUT MY DAUGHTER IN, UM, COLLEGE.

SHE'S GOING FOR MEDICAL AND I APPRECIATE THEM FOR EVERYTHING THAT THEY'VE DONE FOR ME.

THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR ME FOR A LONG TIME.

I'VE BEEN THERE FOR TWO YEARS.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE I WOULD BE WITHOUT THEM.

I THANK YOU.

OKAY.

MAY I, UM, MY NAME IS ALYSSA R DIAZ.

I'M A TENANT AT 1 2 7 2 7 US HIGHWAY 2 81 NORTH.

I AM COMPLETELY, UM, I'M COMPLETELY FOR THIS REZONING REQUEST.

I'VE BEEN LIVING AT VISA ENTER PARK FOR TWO YEARS.

I'M VERY PLEASED WITH THE COMPLEX, THE AMENITIES AND THE STAFF.

I, I ENJOY HOW THE, THE COMPLEX IS GATED.

I FEEL SAFE SECURITY CAMERAS ON EVERY CORNER, EVERY FLOOR.

UM, THE STAFF AND MANAGEMENT, THEY'RE VERY COMMUNICATIVE, EFFICIENT.

UM, WHEN A WORK ORDER IS PUT IN, IT'S, IT'S DONE.

UM, THE

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APARTMENTS ARE BOTH LUXURIOUS AND AFFORDABLE AND I DO BELIEVE THAT THE PEOPLE OF SAN ANTONIO CAN BENEFIT FROM THIS REZONING REQUEST.

I SUPPORT THIS REZONING REQUEST.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

NEXT WE HAVE MR. JACOB CONCHE AND HE WILL BE FOLLOWED BY MR. MICHAEL BIGLEY.

HELLO.

GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS JACOB CONCHES.

I LIVE ON 5 22 EDWARD STREET.

I AM A RESIDENT IN THE FACILITY AS WELL.

UM, THE REASON WHY I AM FOR THE, UH, NOTION IS BECAUSE I RECENTLY JUST MOVED INTO THE COMPLEX AREA MYSELF.

UM, I AM FROM OUTTA STATE WORKING ON TO GETTING MY RESIDENCY HERE.

UM, I COME FROM AN AREA OF LOW INCOME, SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS.

UM, I WAS JUST RECENTLY ENGAGED MY FIANCE.

SO HAVING THIS OPPORTUNITY OF HAVING A HOME TO BUILD NOT ONLY A FOUNDATION FOR MY FAMILY, BUT FOR OURSELVES HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL.

UM, ESPECIALLY IN A UNFORGIVING ECONOMY AND WHAT WE ARE LIVING IN NOW.

UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, YOU KNOW, WE ALSO WOULD LIKE TO LIVE THE AMERICAN DREAM AND ONE DAY OWN A HOME.

BUT IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE HAVE TO TAKE THE STEPS TO GET THERE.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA TAKE TIME.

IT'S A PROCESS.

I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NOT AN OVERNIGHT THING.

UM, SO WITH THIS HOUSING PROGRAM THAT'S GOING ON, IS CREATING A SOLID FOUNDATION, NOT ONLY FOR ME, BUT OTHER TENANTS AS WELL, TO IMPROVE THEMSELVES AND IMPROVE NOT ONLY, AGAIN, NOT OURSELVES, BUT THE ECONOMY THAT WE LIVE IN.

UM, AND THANKS TO VALLEY VISTA, THEY ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT FOR EVERYONE, INCLUDING MYSELF.

UM, THAT IS ALL FOR TODAY.

THANK YOU.

NEXT WE HAVE MR. MICHAEL BIGLEY TO BE FOLLOWED BY MR. MITCHELL.

BIGLEY EXCUSE WILL COME UP WITH ME IF THAT'S OKAY IN FOUR MINUTES THAT THEY'LL COME UP TOGETHER.

YEAH, YEAH.

HELLO EVERYBODY.

HI.

UM, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY THAT, UH, WE'RE NOT AGAINST AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THERE JUST SEEMS TO BE ANOTHER PLACE THAT YOU CAN PUT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

UM, WE, WE BELIEVE, AND EVEN THOUGH THAT THE ATTORNEY SAID THAT, UM, AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING ON APRIL THE 24TH, HE SAID THAT, UM, THE MAJORITY OF CONCERN BY THE EFFECTIVE CITIZENS, AND THIS IS A QUOTE, IS LOW INCOME HOUSING AND THE TYPE OF PEOPLE THIS WILL BRING TO THE AREA.

WE SAW, WE HEARD ALL OF THE VOICEMAILS AND THERE JUST WASN'T REALLY VERY MANY THAT, THAT TALKED ABOUT THAT WE ARE AGAINST LOW INCOME WE'RE NOT.

AND FOR HIM TO SAY SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN FRONT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THAT THAT WASN'T RIGHT, BECAUSE IT WASN'T TRUE.

THE OTHER THING THAT HAPPENED WAS THAT A MEMO, UM, DESCRIBING THE PROJECT THAT THEY SAID WAS SENT OUT EARLIER, EARLIER IN THE YEAR, LIKE IN JANUARY, TO NOTIFY RESIDENTS ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

AND, UH, HE SAID THAT ONE WAS SENT OUT, IT WASN'T SENT OUT.

MATTER OF FACT, IT, WE HAVE AN EMAIL.

IT WAS NOTED THAT ONE, IT WAS NOTED, NO MEMO WAS, UH, SENT OUT, UH, STATED BY THE DEVELOPER.

AND, AND THEN HE ADMITTED, WELL, IT WASN'T SENT OUT.

THEN WE HAD THE CITY PRESENTING TO THE COMMISSION FALSE INFORMATION SAYING THAT THEIR CURRENT ZONING ALLOWS MULTI OUS, MULTI-HOUSING ALREADY.

THAT'S WHAT THEY SAID.

KELLY SAID THIS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVED THE PROJECT, BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO SAY FALSEHOODS TO A PLANNING COMMISSION, THAT WE JUST FELT THAT THAT'S PRETTY, TO SAY SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND NOT GIVING THE PLANNING COMMISSION FACTS, UM, REALLY DOESN'T GIVE US CONFIDENCE.

AND ON APRIL 29TH, WE DID MEET WITH MARK WHITE AND ABOUT 20 CITIZENS AND HIS STAFF, AND HE PRESENTED THE PROJECT IN MORE DETAIL WITH THE DEVELOPERS AND MARK AND THE CITIZENS WILL SIT DOWN AND DEVELOP TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS.

THEN ON MARCH, ON, UH, ON MAY 9TH, WE MET, UH, I MET WITH KELLY AND, UH, WHERE SHE ADMITS HER MISINFORMATION TO THE CITY PLANNERS.

AND, AND SHE DID APOLOGIZE AND SHE'S, BUT SHE DID SUGGEST TO CONTINUE TO MEET WITH DEVELOPERS TO WORK OUR CONCERNS, BASICALLY.

UM, AND SHE SEEMED HONEST WITH THIS DISCUSSION.

THEN ON MAY 15TH, UH, WE MET WITH THE DEVELOPERS, MARK WHITE AND ABOUT

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60 CITIZENS TO DISCUSS OUR CONCERNS.

THE MEETINGS AT TIME, THE MEETING AT TIMES WAS SOMEWHAT CONTENTIOUS, BUT IT WAS PROMISED BY THE DEVELOPERS IN FUTURE MEETINGS WOULD TAKE PLACE TO ALLEVIATE, UH, CONCERNS.

ON MAY 31ST, WE RECEIVED AN EMAIL STATING THE DEVELOPER'S CASE IS NO LONGER ACTIVE, AND IF THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO BRING BACK THE CASE, THEY WILL HAVE TO START OVER WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF NOTIFICATIONS IN OUR OFFICE.

SO BETWEEN MAY 31ST, AND HE JUST SAID THAT THE, THE ATTORNEY JUST TOLD Y'ALL THAT THEY'VE BEEN CONTACTING US, BUT IT MAY TH WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THEM SINCE MAY 31ST.

AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT JULY, JULY 27TH, WE RECEIVE A NOTIFICATION ABOUT THIS MEETING.

AND THAT'S THE ONLY COMMUNICATION THAT WE HAVE HAD SINCE MAY 31ST.

AND SO THE, THE CONCLUSION IS, I GUESS IS THE DEVELOPERS AND THE CITIES EMPLOYEES.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE ANY INTENTION ON WORKING WITH US, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH THEM, BUT WE JUST HAVEN'T FELT LIKE THEY ARE, ARE, ARE BEING HONEST WITH US.

THANK YOU.

THE PROCESS JUST KIND OF SEEMS LIKE A MARSE MITCHELL.

THANK YOU.

UM, NEXT WE, UM, LAST WE HAVE MS. KIM EDWARDS.

MS. EDWARDS.

OKAY.

SO THAT IS IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

UH, MR. DEANNA DID, DO YOU WANT A CHANCE FOR A REBUTTAL? YES, PLEASE.

UH, BEFORE STARTING MY REBUTTAL CHAIR, I DID WANNA NOTE THAT THERE ARE MEMBERS OF THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM HERE TO ALSO ADDRESS QUESTIONS.

SPECIFICALLY.

I DID WANNA CALL THEM OUT THAT, UH, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPER OCI GROUP IS HERE, UH, A**L GONZALEZ, ANITA FERNANDEZ, OLI ESSO, UH, P DAWSON, WHO IS THE ENGINEER ON THIS PROJECT IS ALSO HERE, DAVID MARTINEZ AND MYSELF, UH, FROM ORTIZ MCKNIGHT AND JAMES MCKNIGHT.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO BRIEFLY STATE AT THE OUTSET THAT AGAIN, WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE IS OPPOSITION.

IT'S NOTED, UH, ACKNOWLEDGED, TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION, UH, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING AS YOU HEARD FROM A NUMBER OF THE VOICEMAILS, UH, THAT THE REQUEST TO REZONE THE PROPERTY IS NOT, UH, SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS.

RESPECTFULLY THOUGH, AS OUTLINED IN MY PRESENTATION, FROM A LAND USE PERSPECTIVE, THE LAND USE IS APPROPRIATE AND CONSISTENT WITH THE ADJACENT LAND USES AND WITH WHAT IS IN THE AREA.

A FEW THINGS TO NOTE REGARDING, UM, THE COMMENTS THAT YOU HEARD.

NACODOCHES ROAD IS A SECONDARY ARTERIAL.

IT'S FIVE LANES WIDE.

IT CAN ACCOMMODATE 30,000 TO 40,000 TRIPS PER DAY.

AGAIN, OUR APARTMENT COMPLEX WILL BE 85 UNITS.

IT'S A SMALL DROP IN THE BUCKET FOR AN AREA THAT IS ALREADY DEVELOPED.

UH, WE ARE IN THE VIA SERVICE AREA.

AS I OUTLINED IN MY PRESENTATION, WE ARE IN VIA LINKS SERVICE AREA.

SO NOT TRADITIONAL BUS STOP, BUT THE VIA LINK SERVICE THAT ALLOWS FOR YOU TO CALL VIA FOR PICKUP AND DROP OFF AT A LOCATION OF YOUR CHOICE.

UH, WE ARE WHOLLY WITHIN THE CITY AND WITH ALL AND WITHIN SAWS SERVICE AREA.

UH, SO WE WILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH SAWS REQUIREMENTS FOR SERVICE TO THIS SITE.

UH, WE ARE ALSO WITHIN ONE MILE OF NEIGHBORHOOD AMENITIES.

UH, SPECIFICALLY AS I OUTLINED IN MY PRESENTATION, THE HEBA LARGE PARK AND A PUBLIC LIBRARY.

UH, WE ARE NOT USING SPRING CREEK'S ENTRANCE.

I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT I MADE, UH, NOTE THAT THERE WAS A REFERENCE THAT WE WOULD BE USING SPRING FARM STREET.

THAT'S NOT TRUE.

WE ARE GOING TO USE NACODOCHES ROAD WITHOUT IMPACTING, UH, SPRING, SPRING CREEKS, UH, THE RESIDENCE AS INGRESS EGRESS POINTS.

ALSO, I JUST WANT TO KNOW TRAFFIC FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN STUDIED AND IS GOING TO BE LESS THAN WHAT WOULD OTHERWISE BE, BE ALLOWED IN A C TWO ZONING DISTRICT WITH A C TWO USE, SUCH AS A RESTAURANT OR A RETAIL SHOPPING CENTER.

UH, FINALLY, UH, THERE WAS A NOTE ABOUT, UH, TREES.

WE ARE FULLY GOING TO COMPLY WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO'S 2010 TREE ORDINANCE.

UH, IN FACT, WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO PUT ALL OF THE TREES THAT ARE REMOVED FROM THE SITE INTO THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER AREA, WHICH AGAIN, WILL BE SUPPLEMENTED WITH 100 GALLON LIVE OAK TREES THAT WHEN PLANTED WILL BE 12 TO 13 FEET IN HEIGHT.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

THIS IS A DISTRICT 10 CASE, SO TO YOU COMMISSIONER TSET FOR QUESTIONS.

UM, ACTUALLY I THINK I'D RATHER LISTEN TO THE REST OF THE COMMISSIONERS AT THE MOMENT.

UM, I'VE, UH, HEARD EVERYBODY.

I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH, UH, THE PEOPLE WHO'VE CALLED ME AND, UH, I'D KIND OF LET LET EVERYBODY'S INPUT.

BUT, UM, I WILL SAY THAT, UM,

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I THINK ONE OF THE BIG CONCERNS FROM MY END AND FROM THE COUNCILMAN UH, OFFICE IS THE LACK OF COMMUNICATION.

AND, AND IT WAS BROUGHT UP BY MR. BIGLEY.

UM, IT SEEMED TO HAVE STOPPED.

UM, I WAS AT THAT LAST BIG MEETING AND IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WAS GONNA BE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS TO TRY TO WORK SOMETHING OUT.

UM, AND THEN WE WERE TOLD IT WAS WITHDRAWN.

AND, UH, WHERE THAT ALL CAME FROM, I DON'T KNOW, BUT IT, EVERYBODY WAS SURPRISED WHEN IT DID COME BACK.

AND, YOU KNOW, I, I'M LISTENING TO THIS AND Y'ALL WENT OUT AND RECRUITED, UH, A BUNCH OF PEOPLE TO CALL.

UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, I LOOKED AT THE EMAILS AND, UH, THE 19 OR IN FAVOR, NINE OF THEM WERE FROM A GROUP CALLED ESSENCE PUBLIC SCHOOL, WHICH IS ON THE SOUTHEAST SIDE OF TOWN.

I DON'T, UH, KNOW, I MEAN, THEY, THEY WERE ALL CALLING IN FAVOR.

SO IT SEEMS, AND MOST OF ALL OF THE, THOSE IN FAVOR DON'T LIVE IN THAT AREA.

SO IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF EFFORT WAS PLACED ON FINDING OTHERS FROM OTHER PARTS OF TOWN TO CALL IN ON THIS AND NOT COME BACK AND WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS.

NOW YOU MAY NOT HAVE GOTTEN ANYWHERE WITH THE NEIGHBORS, UH, BUT IT, THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE BEEN EFFORT PLACED TO GO BACK AND TALK WITH THEM, BUT THE EFFORT WAS PLACED ON FINDING PEOPLE AROUND TOWN.

UM, SO THAT'S MY INITIAL COMMENTS AND I'LL LET ALL RIGHT.

QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.

UH, I'M GONNA WAIT FOR A FEW MORE.

OH MY GOSH.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE, START US OFF PLEASE.

, I'M GONNA WAIT FOR A FEW, NO .

UM, ALRIGHT, UH, STAFF FIRST, LET'S START WITH YOU.

UM, ALRIGHT.

THE CURRENT ZONING IS C TWO CD COMMERCIAL WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR AUTO, BOAT AND RECREATIONAL VEHICLE STORAGE, CORRECT? CORRECT.

OKAY.

AND IT'S A CONDITIONAL USE.

WHY CONDITIONAL USE? IT'S A, TYPICALLY A INDUSTRIAL USE, BUT UM, AS PER OUR UDCR CODE, IT DOES PERMIT IF YOU HAVE A LOWER COMMERCIAL USE, YOU ARE SOMETIMES ALLOWED A CONDITIONAL USE, WHICH IS TAKING A HIGHER INTENSE INDUSTRIAL USE BUT ONLY ALLOWING THAT ONE USE AND IT MUST COMPLY WITH A SETBACK.

BUT ALL THE OTHER USES THAT ARE IN C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WOULD BE PERMITTED OUTRIGHT.

YOU ARE ALREADY ANSWERING MY SECOND QUESTION, UH, WHICH IS C TWO MEANS UH, LIQUOR STORES FOR EXAMPLE.

YES, I BELIEVE SO.

LET ME JUST CONFIRM, RIGHT.

YES.

MINIATURE GOLF AND OTHER INDOOR GAMING FACILITIES, CORRECT? UH, PET CEMETERY MY FAVORITE.

YES.

I'M JUST GOING OFF THE SAN ANTONIO.

THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF USES IN HERE.

YOU'RE KEEPING ME, I'M GOING OFF THE SAN ANTONIO BASED ZONING DISTRICT FLYERS, SO I'M, I'M USING A CHEAT SHEET .

ALRIGHT, WELL IN ANY EVENT, SO THERE ARE ALL SORTS OF USES UP TO AND INCLUDING DRY CLEANING, FOR EXAMPLE? CORRECT.

AND, AND THIS CASE, BECAUSE IT'S BEEN REZONED FOR, UH, AUTO, BOAT AND RECREATIONAL VEHICLE STORAGE, IT, IT'S EVEN ZONED CURRENTLY FOR AN INDUSTRIAL USE, RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT.

ALRIGHT.

NOW ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WAS ALSO RAISED, UM, WAS, WAS THIS IDEA OF WITHDRAWN.

NOW I DO RECALL THIS COMING BEFORE US, UH, EARLIER THIS YEAR.

CAN YOU REMIND ME WHAT HAPPENED THEN? SO IT WAS BROUGHT BEFORE BUT CONTINUED AND THEN IT WAS DECIDED TO BE POSTPONED.

OKAY, SO TELL ME WHAT, SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF.

NO, GO AHEAD.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY POSTPONED? POSTPONED IS PRETTY MUCH RESTARTING.

UM, WE WILL BE RE NOTIFYING EVERYONE, WHICH THEY DID RECEIVE.

IT'S JUST NOT, YOU'RE PRETTY MUCH USING THE SAME APPLICATION.

BUT AGAIN, IT IS AT ESSENCE RESTARTING WITH REIFICATION AND ALL THAT.

AND BY NOTIFICATION, WHAT DO YOU MEAN? NOTIFICATION INCLUDES PUTTING, POSTED, POSTING IN THE NEWSPAPER AND THEN ALSO SENDING OUT LETTERS TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

ALL AS PER STATE CODE.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

TO THE APPLICANT PLEASE.

ONE OF THE ISSUES RAISED, UM, BY COMMISSIONER WHITSETT WAS CALLS FROM ESSENCE AND SOME OTHER FOLKS.

UM, WHAT IS ESSENCE, WHAT'S THEIR RELATION TO THIS PROJECT? ESSENCE PREPARATORY WILL BE OPERATING THE PRE-K THAT IS PLANNED TO BE ONSITE COMMISSIONER.

SO THEY HAVE AN INTEREST IN THIS, RIGHT? CORRECT.

OKAY.

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BUT THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVING A PRE-K IN THIS AREA IS BAD.

DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT? I DO.

UH, AND IF I COULD TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER, THE REASON THAT ESSENCE PREPARATORY CALLED AND SUPPORT OF THIS REZONING CASE WAS MORE SO FOR THE POLICY REASON, UH, TO ACCOMPLISH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO'S STATED POLICY GOALS TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

NOW OUTREACH HAS ALSO BEEN ANOTHER ISSUE THAT WAS RAISED AND I KNOW YOU ADDRESSED THAT IN YOUR PRESENTATION THOUGH I WAS LATE.

I APOLOGIZE.

UM, BUT I DID I THINK WALK IN DURING THAT SLIDE.

UM, SO I GUESS THE LAST BIG MEETING YOU HAD OR WHAT'S BEEN REFERRED TO AS THE BIG MEETING WAS MAY 31ST, CORRECT? UH, MAY 15TH.

MAY 15TH.

OKAY.

SINCE THAT TIME, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO REACH OUT TO NEIGHBORS? SO SINCE THAT TIME WE HAVE SENT OUT NOTICES NOT TO NEIGHBORS WITHIN 200 FEET, BUT WE'VE SENT OUT NOTICES TO INDIVIDUALS WHO RESIDE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITIES TO MAKE THEM AWARE OF THIS PROPOSED REZONING SO THAT WE COULD BRING THEM TO ZONING COMMISSION AS WELL AS GIVE THEIR INPUT ON LIVING WITHIN OUR COMMUNITIES.

WHICH AGAIN, IT'S A 100% AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMUNITY AND WE WANNA SHOW THE TYPE OF INDIVIDUALS THAT LIVE IN THESE COMMUNITIES TO PUT A FACE TO THE NAME.

HAVE YOU DONE ANY OUTREACH TO THE NEIGHBORS, TO MR. BIGLEY AND THE OTHER FOLKS THERE? CONSIDERING THE EMAILS AND THE VOICEMAILS? THE TELEPHONE CALLS THAT I'VE TAKEN FROM THOSE INDIVIDUALS REQUESTING THAT WE NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR ZONING CASE, IT WOULD'VE BEEN AIKEN TO BANGING MY HEAD AGAINST A WALL.

I, I FIND BEING A LAWYER FREQUENTLY IS BANGING ONE'S HEAD AGAINST A WALL.

UM, BUT IN ANY EVENT, UM, AS IF THIS PROJECT WERE TO MOVE FORWARD TODAY, WOULD YOU ENDEAVOR TO CONTINUE TO MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORS IN THE SPRING CREEK SPRING FARM AREA? WE WOULD.

UH, I MENTIONED THAT IN MY PRESENTATION THAT WE ARE COMMITTED TO OUTREACH AND HAVING MORE MEETINGS WITH SPRING CREEK.

UH, I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT THE LAND USE, THE REASON THAT WE'RE HERE BEFORE ZONING COMMISSION IS BECAUSE WE FEEL THE LAND USE ARGUMENTS ARE STRONG ON THIS CASE.

THAT REMINDS ME OF SOMETHING ELSE.

UH, MS. SANDERS, THIS IS GONNA BE A QUESTION TO YOU SPECIFICALLY.

UM, TELL ME ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SO THIS PROJECT WAS APPROVED AT PLANNING COMMISSION BACK IN APRIL, CORRECT? OR THEREABOUTS? CORRECT.

OKAY.

UM, WHAT, WHAT DOES PLANNING COMMISSION DO? WELL, PLANNING COMMISSION DOES PER REVIEW THE, UH, LAND USE DESIGNATION, UM, WITH AMENDING THE, UH, ADOPTED PLANS.

SO THIS AREA IS WITHIN THE NORTH SECTOR PLAN AND IT'S AN EXISTING SUBURBAN TIER.

UM, AND TO ALLOW THE MIXED USE, THEY ARE REQUESTING THE PLAN AMENDMENT TO GENERAL URBAN TIER, WHICH WOULD PERMIT THAT, UH, THE MIXED USE.

WHAT WAS THE FIRST ONE AGAIN? I'M SORRY? IT'S A EXISTING SUBURBAN TIER.

EXISTING SUBURBAN TIER? CORRECT.

UH, IN THIS PLAN, WHAT DOES SUBURBAN TIER MEAN? 'CAUSE I CAN'T REMEMBER IF THIS PLANT'S OLD ENOUGH TO HAVE, UH, THE INDIVIDUAL SUBURBAN TIER DEFINITION.

THE SUBURBAN TIER IS NORMALLY BASED FOR A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL AND LOW COMMERCIAL INTENSE USES.

UM, BUT AGAIN, WITH THE MIXED USE AND THE HIGHER, SOMEWHAT HIGHER DENSITY THEY NEEDED TO GO TO THE GENERAL URBAN TIER.

OKAY.

STOP RIGHT THERE.

ALRIGHT.

WITH RESPECT TO THE SUBURBAN TIER, SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AND YOU SAY THE PLAN MIGHT INCLUDE RESIDENTIAL, THAT WOULD BE TRUE FOR THE SUBURBAN TIER, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

OKAY.

SO ZONING IN THIS CASE, WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR TODAY WOULD BE FROM COMMERCIAL C TWO CD AS WE DISCUSSED EARLIER TO MULTIFAMILY CORRECT.

INCLUDING MULTIFAMILY, THEY ARE ALSO REQUESTING COMMERCIAL WITH MXT, CORRECT? CORRECT.

YOU'RE YOU'RE RIGHT TO CORRECT ME.

THANK YOU.

UM, ALRIGHT.

SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU MENTIONED RESIDENTIAL IN THE PLANNING CONTEXT, THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT EXISTING RESIDENTIAL IN THE ZONING CONTEXT, RIGHT? I I CAN GIVE FURTHER CLARIFICATION ON THAT PLEASE.

UM, IT WAS ASKED BY ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS AT THE PLANNING, UH, OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION IF MULTIFAMILY IS EVEN PERMITTED IN THE EXISTING C TWO, IN WHICH I DID CLARIFY THAT YES IT IS PERMITTED BUT IT HAS TO MEET CERTAIN STANDARDS.

THEY ARE PERMITTED UP TO A DENSITY OF 10 UNITS PER ACRE, BUT IT MUST BE A MIXED USE BUILDING.

SO AGAIN, GOING BACK TO MY DISCUSSION, I GAVE CORRECT INFORMATION THAT MIXED USE AND RESIDENTIAL IS PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN A C TWO.

SO EVEN IF THEY DO NOT GET THIS REZONING, THEY COULD POTENTIALLY

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DO A MIXED USE BUILDING WITH A DENSITY OF 10 UNITS PER ACRE.

JUST THAT THE BUILDING WOULD HAVE TO MEET CERTAIN CRITERIA WITH, UH, COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE SPACE ON THE BOTTOM FLOOR, RESIDENTIAL ON THE UPPER FLOORS.

OKAY.

NEXT.

THAT WAS A BETTER CLARIFICATION THAN I WAS GETTING AT.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, PASS THE, SORRY, NO MORE QUESTIONS.

PASS THE WITNESS.

I'LL THROW ONE BACK IN AS IT GOES DOWN THERE.

JUST A CLARIFICATION.

OKAY.

UM, WHEN THEY REZONED A FEW YEARS AGO TO GET THE CD.

UH, IT WAS C IT HAD BEEN C TWO FOR 40 YEARS OR SO.

AND THERE WAS A REZONING OF THIS PROPERTY TO GET THE CONDITIONAL USE TO ALLOW FOR THE STORE OUTSIDE STORAGE.

YES, SIR.

UM, DID THEY HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN AMENDMENT AT THAT TIME ALSO, OR DID THEY JUST ADD THE CD? I HAVE TO CONFIRM.

GIVE ME ONE SECOND PLEASE.

AND I GUESS WITH THAT, THEY ORIGINALLY HAD MF 33 RIGHTS THAT WENT WITH THAT C TWO, WHICH THEY LOST WHEN THEY DID THE CD.

THAT IS CORRECT.

AND WHEN IT CONVERTED TO THE B TWO OR JUST THE B TWO SECTION TO C TWO, THEY DID, THEY WOULD BE PERMITTED THE MF 33 RIGHTS.

RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER WATSON, THEY DID NOT NEED A PLAN AMENDMENT FOR THAT PREVIOUS REZONING.

OH, SORRY.

THEY DID NOT NEED A PLANNED AMENDMENT FOR THAT PREVIOUS REZONING.

OKAY.

UH, FOR STAFF, TYPICALLY AT THIS STAGE OF THE PROCESS, WOULD A TRAFFIC STUDY BE REQUIRED? NOT AT THIS STAGE, NO.

IT WOULD COME AT PERMITTING STAGE.

UH, MR. DIANDA, CAN YOU PLEASE ELABORATE ON THE TRAFFIC RESEARCH THAT YOU CONDUCTED? I CAN, UH, IN FACT, CAN YOU GO TO THE SLIDE THAT SHOWS THE TRAFFIC? KEEP GOING.

THIS ONE.

SO OUR ENGINEER PREPARED A PRELIMINARY TRAFFIC REPORT COMPARING A MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT WITH AN ONSITE DAYCARE AGAINST A TYPICAL C TWO DEVELOPMENT THAT IS A RESTAURANT OR A SHOPPING CENTER.

UH, AND FROM THAT ENGINEER'S STUDY, WE FOUND THAT, UH, THE MULTI-FAMILY APARTMENT COMPLEX WITH A DAYCARE CENTER WOULD PRODUCE ROUGHLY ONE THIRD THE TRAFFIC, UM, OF A OTHERWISE ALLOWED C TWO, UH, USE.

I DO HAVE THE ENGINEER HERE AGAIN, IF YOU WANT TO DRILL DOWN INTO FURTHER DETAILS ON THE TRAFFIC REPORT.

SO TO CONFIRM, YOU ALL CONDUCTED THIS TRAFFIC STUDY IN AN ATTEMPT TO PROVIDE INFORMATION TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WAS ACCURATE REGARDING PROJECTED TRIPS? CORRECT.

THANK YOU.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF ENGINEER HERE FOR DRAINAGE AS WELL AS TRAFFIC, BUT IF YOU DO, I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO YOUR, THE ENGINEER THAT WORKED ON THE DRAINAGE AND DETENTION POND ASPECT.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

HELLO.

UM, CAN YOU PLEASE EXPAND ON, UH, WHY YOU INCLUDED THE DETENTION POND AND THE SITE PLAN AND THE PROJECTED IMPACT ON DRAINAGE FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT? YES, THE, UH, THE DETENTION POND, UH, THIS AREA IS IN A MANDATORY DETENTION AREA, SO WE DID INCLUDE THE DETENTION POND, WHICH WILL TAKE ALL THE WATER FROM THE DEVELOPMENT AND RELEASE IT AT PRE-DEVELOPMENT RATES TO AVOID INCREASING THE DRAINAGE.

WHAT DIRECTION DOES THE WATER FLOW ON THIS PROPERTY? THE PROPERTY, UH, THE DRAINAGE FLOWS FROM THE SPRING HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ONTO THIS PROPERTY, AND SO WE'LL ACCEPT THAT WATER AND DRAIN IT TO THE POND AND DETAIN IT.

THANK YOU.

NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, MR. CHAIR.

UM, ONE, MR. ITOS, UM, I WANTED TO ASK, UH, THE APPLICANT A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

UM, I KNOW THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS ALREADY APPROVED THIS CITY STAFF RECOMMENDS IT, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE, UM, THIS ALSO HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE STATE OF TEXAS THROUGH A TAX CREDIT.

I MEAN, IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN THAT AND HOW DIFFICULT TO GET THIS TAX CREDIT CREDITS PROJECT FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO THAT I, I, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I'M NOT MISQUOTING ANYONE, BUT I'VE HEARD THAT ONLY FOUR PROJECTS A YEAR OR MAYBE EVEN LESS ARE APPROVED FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.

YEAH.

SO I'LL ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, BUT I THINK TO PROVIDE THE DETAIL THAT YOU'RE REQUESTING, I'LL ASK THE DEVELOPER TO COME UP AND PROVIDE DETAIL ON THAT.

YES.

THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN, HAS RECEIVED A RESOLUTION OF NO OPPOSITION FROM THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO TO MOVE FORWARD AS A LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT PROJECT.

AND IT WAS AWARDED BY THE STATE OF TEXAS, UM, EARLIER THIS MONTH OR EARLIER IN JULY.

BUT I'LL PASS THE MIC OVER SO THEY, SO THE

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DEVELOPER CAN PROVIDE MORE DETAIL ON THAT.

GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.

I'M OLIVIER RASO, PARTNER AND CO-FOUNDER IN OCI DEVELOPMENT.

AS KEVIN MENTIONED, I'M JOINED BY MY OTHER DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS, ANITA FERNANDEZ, ANALCO GONZALEZ, AND WE ALSO HAVE DAN WILSON FROM ATLANTIC PACIFIC COMPANIES WHO'S A PART OF THE TEAM.

AND TOGETHER, YES, WE ARE VERY PLEASED TO HAVE BEEN AWARDED THE 2024 TAX CREDITS FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.

UH, THE STATE OF TEXAS IS REALLY LOOKING FOR THOSE, UH, PROPOSED DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE IN THE MOST DESIRABLE AREAS FOR THEIR FUTURE RESIDENTS.

AND WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT IN THOSE TERMS ARE THINGS LIKE ACCESS TO WRAPAROUND SERVICES, ACCESS TO QUALITY SCHOOLS, TO GOOD PAYING JOBS, TO HIGH OPPORTUNITIES.

AND SO THIS PROPOSED SITE REALLY MET ALL OF THOSE CRITERIA.

AND, UH, THE ADDITION OF THE PRE-K ON SITE, THIS WILL BE THE FIRST PROPOSED SITE IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO THAT WILL HAVE THAT PRE-K IN ADDITION TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, 100% OF THOSE UNITS ARE AFFORDABLE.

DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER REBUTTALS? YEAH, I'M, I'M, I NOTICED THERE'S A LOT OF RESIDENTS FROM ANOTHER PROJECT.

SO THIS IS THE SECOND DEVELOPMENT OR THE THIRD IN THE AREA.

I MEAN, A LOT OF PEOPLE MENTION INTER PARK, WHICH I'M VERY FAMILIAR ON 2 81 'CAUSE I LIVE TWO BLOCKS AWAY.

AND I EXPERIENCED THE SAME SITUATION WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE VERY OPPOSED TO THIS.

AND NOW THAT IT'S OPEN, IT'S BEEN THE MOST SUCCESSFUL.

SO ARE THERE ANY OTHER DEVELOPMENTS, UH, THAT ARE OPEN PRESENTLY? UH, I, AGAIN, I'M GONNA ASK THE DEVELOPER TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, BUT THIS IS THE FIRST THAT I'M AWARE OF IN DISTRICT 10 FOR THIS DEVELOPER.

BUT I'LL LET THEM ELABORATE.

THANK YOU, KEVIN.

YES.

WE HAVE EIGHT COMPLETED DEVELOPMENTS IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AND FOUR THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

THEY RANGE FROM DISTRICT SEVEN, DISTRICT THREE, DISTRICT TWO, DISTRICT NINE, AND DISTRICT ONE IN THE COMPLETED PROJECTS.

AND UNDER CONSTRUCTION INCLUDES DISTRICT NINE, 10, AND SIX.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER HUEY.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

UH, MS. RESO, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU PLEASE.

SO I'VE HEARD THIS TERM USED SEVERAL TIMES, 100% AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS? YES, ABSOLUTELY.

SO EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE 85 UNITS IS AT AN AFFORDABLE RATE TO OUR LOCAL WORKFORCE.

SO THOSE ARE UP TO 60% OF THE AREA A MI.

SO WHAT IS THE AREA A MI? UM, I'M SORRY TO MAKE YOU DO PUBLIC MATH.

SURE, NO PROBLEM.

NO PROBLEM.

SO WE HAVE, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S EITHER A STUDIO APARTMENT OR THERE ARE TWO BEDROOM APARTMENTS AT THE STUDIO WE WOULD TAKE A LOOK AT.

YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THAT PERCENTAGE? A MI WE HAVE ONE UNIT, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT IS AT 20% OF THE A MI.

AND SO THAT RENT WOULD COME IN AT APPROXIMATELY 310 PER MONTH, BUT IT ALSO GOES UP TO WHICH THE MAJORITY OF THE UNITS WOULD BE AT THE 60% A MI RANGE.

AND SO THOSE WOULD BE AT APPROXIMATELY $1,195 PER MONTH.

SO YOUR, YOUR RENT IS ADJUSTED BY THE INCOME, CORRECT? OF THE APPLICANT? YES, SIR.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

SORRY, I WAS WRITING DOWN NOTES, UH, COMMISSIONER REYES OR THE APPLICANT? I HAD TWO ENGINEERING QUESTIONS, BUT COMMISSIONER, GREAT QUESTIONS ON TRAFFIC AND DRAINAGE.

SO I HAVE ONE GREAT QUESTION.

OF COURSE.

NO, THAT THOSE WERE, THOSE WERE ON MY MIND, BUT GREAT JOB, YOU KNOW, UH, ADDRESSING THE, THE TRIPS AND ALSO THE CONVEYANCE OF THE RUNOFF.

SO ONE QUESTION ON THE BACK, THE BACK PROPERTY LINE OR THE BACK FENCE, UH, WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS THERE? 'CAUSE THERE IS AN EXISTING UTILITY, UTILITY EASEMENT THERE, SO THAT CREATES KIND OF A BUFFER, BUT CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT YOUR PLANS ARE? SO WE ARE PROPOSING A 15 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE SPRING CREEK RESIDENCES.

SO ON THE EXHIBIT THAT'S ON THE SCREEN, SPRING CREEK IS AT THE TOP AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THERE THAT, UH, THERE ARE TREES WITHIN THAT LANDSCAPE BUFFER.

SO THERE WILL BE 15 FEET.

MOREOVER, UH, WE'RE GOING TO SET THE BUILDING BACK AN ADDITIONAL 50.

UM, IT'S GOING TO BE SET BACK 50 FEET FROM THE LOT LINE, SO IT'LL BE 15 FOOT OF A LANDSCAPE BUFFER AND 35 FEET FOR INGRESS EGRESS PARKING.

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THANKS.

ALRIGHT, GREAT.

UM, COMMISSIONER OSA, UH, FOR THE APPLICANT, UH, FOR THE OUTREACH, YOU GUYS MAILED STUFF OUT AND, UH, WHEN, WHEN YOU HAD MEETINGS, DID Y'ALL CORRECT COLLECT LIKE EMAIL ADDRESSES AND PHONE NUMBERS? UH, IBEL? YES, WE DID.

OKAY.

WE DID, UH, WE DID EMAIL SOME RESIDENTS WITHIN SPRING CREEK.

ADMITTEDLY, WE DID NOT GET THE RESPONSE THAT WE, UH, THOUGHT WE WOULD GET FROM SPRING CREEK.

UH, A MAJORITY OF THE RESPONSES THAT WE RECEIVED WERE, PLEASE DO NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS REZONING REQUEST.

UH, PLEASE LEAVE IT, UH, UNDEVELOPED AS A VACANT PARCEL.

UH, THERE WERE A FEW HANDFUL OF RESIDENTS WHO DID REACH OUT TO US, UM, AND THEY DID, UM, TELL US THAT THEY WERE JUST GENERALLY OPPOSED TO REZONING AND DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SITE.

OKAY.

AND LIKE IN ALL CASES, THERE'S ALWAYS A, A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T RECEIVE NOTIFICATIONS DUE TO EMAIL OR EMAIL, EXCUSE ME, MAIL DELIVERY SERVICE OR SOMETHING'S GOING ON.

RIGHT.

UM, JUST, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IN THE FUTURE HAVE THAT DOCUMENTATION THAT THAT SHOWS THAT IT WAS SENT OUT OR KEEP COPIES OF EMAILS.

JUST KINDA DO A LITTLE MORE OF A DUE DILIGENCE, UM, FOR THAT.

NOW REMIND ME, I THINK Y'ALL MADE CONCESSIONS RIGHT THERE.

THERE'S BEEN SOME CHANGES.

I THINK IT WOULD DROP DOWN TO AN 80 83 UNITS.

UH, THE UNIT COUNT HAS REMAINED THE SAME 85 UNITS, BUT WE DID DROP DOWN OUR BUILDING HEIGHT FROM FOUR STORIES TO THREE STORIES.

ALSO, WE REORIENTED OUR BALCONIES SO THAT THE BALCONIES DID NOT FACE SPRING CREEK THAT THEY FACED INTERNALLY.

WE ALSO DESIGNED THE BUILDING IN A U-SHAPE SO THAT UNITS THAT DID FACE SPRING CREEK WERE SET BACK OVER 162 FEET AWAY FROM SPRING CREEK'S.

LOT LINE.

SO THAT, YEAH, NO WAY THEY'LL BE ABLE TO LOOK INTO OR EVEN OVERSEE SPRING.

I DON'T WANNA BE ABSOLUTE, UM, YEAH, IT STILL MAY BE A CHANCE, BUT WITH THE 15 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER, OUR COMMITMENT TO SUPPLEMENT ANY VISIBILITY AREAS WITH, AGAIN, A HUNDRED GALLON LIVE OAK TREES, THAT VISIBILITY WILL BE EXTREMELY LIMITED.

MM-HMM.

, AND I KNOW I I, WE DID A LITTLE GOOGLE SEARCH ON GOOGLE MAPS FROM 2023.

WE, WE DIDN'T SEE MANY BIG TREES, A LOT OF BUSHES AND BRUSHES AND, UH, TRASH TREES AS THEY CALL 'EM.

UH, BUT THERE ARE SOME BIG TREES IN THE BACK, I GUESS TOWARD THE SPRINKLER.

THERE, THERE ARE TREES ON SITE, BUT WE DO ANTICIPATE THAT THERE WILL BE A LOT OF SUPPLEMENTATION THAT WILL NEED TO BE DONE OF THAT LANDSCAPE BUFFER.

UM, I LIKE THAT POND 'CAUSE OF THE DRAINAGE.

UM, THERE, I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T LIKE CHANGE, RIGHT? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, NOBODY WANTS A, SOMETHING GOING IN, BUT THE CURRENT ZONING, YOU KNOW, THERE COULD BE A BAR MOVING IN.

THERE COULD BE SOMETHING THAT, THAT MAY BE, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, A COMMERCIAL AREA WHERE TRUCKS ARE GOING IN AND OUT, UH, SHOPPING, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO WE WANT? UH, THEY'RE NOT MAKING ANY MORE LAND, RIGHT? SO, UH, SOMETHING'S GONNA PROBABLY GO IN THERE.

WE'RE JUST GROWING.

UM, I GUESS WE HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WE DO WANT.

UM, I KNOW SOMEBODY MADE A COMMENT THAT SAYS THEY'RE NOT AGAINST AFFORDABLE HOUSING, JUST NOT IN MY AREA.

WELL, I MEAN THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, LOW, LOW, UH, YOU KNOW, AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS WHAT I GREW UP ON.

YOU KNOW, I'M LOW INCOME.

SO FOR ME PERSONALLY, THAT, THAT, THAT'S OFFENSIVE.

BUT THAT'S JUST ME PERSONALLY.

UH, SO I I I THINK WE HAVE TO JUST DECIDE WHAT WE REALLY WANT IN THAT AREA.

WHAT CAN GO IN THERE WITHOUT ANY KIND OF ZONING APPROVAL? UM, IT SEEMS THAT THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING BETTER FOR THE COMMUNITY.

I DON'T KNOW.

NORTHEAST ISD PROBABLY DOESN'T HAVE ANY IN THAT AREA.

I CAN'T THINK OFF OF THE TOP OF MY HEAD A PRE-K UH, SITE.

UH, AS AN, AS AN EDUCATOR, I KNOW PRE-K IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR FAMILIES, ESPECIALLY, UM, THREE YEAR OLDS, MY DAUGHTER'S FOUR.

BUT YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE, UH, FOR THAT ESSENCE A PUBLIC PRIVATE, UH, PUBLIC CHARTER SCHOOL.

UM, I, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD FIT FOR THERE.

UM, BUT THAT'S ALL MY COMMENTS AND, AND, AND AND STATEMENTS.

THANK YOU.

JUST TO KIND OF CLARIFY, A BAR IS NOT PERMITTED IN C TWO, BUT YEAH.

AS I CHANGED IT TO A FOOD SERVICE RESTAURANT.

YES.

I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT THERE'S NO WHAT ABOUT A NIGHTCLUB MISCOMMUNICATION? NO, A NIGHTCLUB IS NO NIGHTCLUB PERMITTED, NO.

ALRIGHT.

UH, COMMISSIONER CHASE, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.

UM, I JUST GOOGLED THE MEDIAN INCOME FOR SAN ANTONIO FOR HOUSEHOLD IS 59,000 ABOUT, AND 60% A MI FOR A FAMILY OF TWO IS 35,580.

SO THAT'S NOT A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, UM, YOU KNOW, THE 60% A MI TO OUR HOUSEHOLD INCOME.

SO WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT FAMILIES WITH PRESCHOOL CHILDREN, UM, 60% A MI MEANS THAT, SO FOR LIKE A FAMILY OF FOUR, UM, THAT INCOME CAN GO UP TO 44,460.

IS THAT, WHAT, IS THAT WHAT THAT MEANS BY, I'M LOOKING AT THE CHART SO

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I BE A QUESTION THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE A BETTER QUESTION FOR THE DEVELOPER.

SORRY, SINCE I DON'T HANDLE, IT'S TOO BAD.

COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE IS NOT HERE.

.

UM, WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS THAT FOR A TWO BEDROOM AT 60% A MI, IT COULD GO, UM, FOR INCOMES UP TO 57,360 AT 50% A MI, WE HAVE THAT AT 47,800.

SO THE UP TO, AND THAT'S, THAT'S JUST BASED ON WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S, I MEAN, TO ME THAT SOUNDS LIKE MOST OF SAN ANTONIO THEN.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND, AND I JUST WANNA ADD, YOU KNOW, OUR DEVELOPMENT FIRM, OCI DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE FROM SAN ANTONIO, WE'RE BORN AND RAISED HERE, WE GOT INTO AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THE INCREDIBLE SHORTAGE HOUSING CRISIS REALLY, THAT OUR CITY FACES.

AND SO WE THINK ABOUT THAT AS YOU SAID, COMMISSIONER OSA, THAT THESE ARE OUR FAMILIES, OUR NEIGHBORS, OUR FRIENDS THAT, OUR TEACHERS THAT WORK IN POSTAL OFFICES AT HOSPITALS OR CAREGIVERS AND ARE ALL ON LIMITED INCOMES.

AND SO WE, YOU KNOW, TRY TO BE CONSCIENTIOUS OF HOW CAN, WHAT ROLE CAN WE PLAY IN HELPING TO INCREASE THE PRODUCTION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN ALL PARTS OF TOWN BECAUSE IT'S NEEDED EVERYWHERE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

I GUESS IT'S MY TURN FOR QUESTIONS AND I ACTUALLY ALL MY, ALL THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ASKED REALLY GOOD QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE, UM, ASKED THE QUESTION REGARDING, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION AND UH, I SAW KELLY KEPT LOOKING AT ME LIKE I WAS THERE, WHICH I WAS.

SO I DO REMEMBER THAT PARTICULARLY.

UM, BUT, BUT, UH, SO I APPRECIATE THE, THE, THE ANSWER YOU GAVE FOR THAT.

'CAUSE THAT IS HOW I REMEMBER IT BEING STATED DURING THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

THAT THAT PLANNING COMMISSION HAS VARIOUS TIERS AND IT, IT'S, IT'S, UM, LOOKING AT IT FROM A MUCH HIGHER LEVEL, UM, WHERE A, A TIER CAN INCLUDE RESIDENTIAL, CAN INCLUDE COMMERCIAL, CAN INCLUDE, IT INCLUDES A MULTIPLE, UM, SET OF ZONING CATEGORIES.

UM, LET'S SEE, DID I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? AND I BELIEVE WHEN, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT A MI, UH, SAN ANTONIO INCLUDES THE, THE REASON WHY IT APPEARS THAT THE, THE SAN ANTONIO A MI HIGHER THAN USUAL IS BECAUSE, OR WHAT WE THINK OF, OF, OF, OF USUAL SAN ANTONIO INCOME.

IT'S BECAUSE IT ALSO INCLUDES SURROUNDING AREAS SUCH AS NEW BRAUNFELS AND PROBABLY, I'M NOT SURE IF IT INCLUDES BERNIE OR NOT.

I DON'T THINK IT GOES OUT THAT FAR, BUT, BUT I THINK IT, SO, SO THAT, THAT HELPS ELEVATE THE, THE AREA.

A MI.

YEAH, THE LAST TIME THAT I LOOKED AT THE CHART COMMISSIONER, IT WAS SAN ANTONIO AND THE NEW BRAUNFELS AREA METROPOLITAN AREAS, SO, OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU.

SO I WAS JUST DELAYING TO SEE IF I COULD COME UP WITH ANOTHER QUESTION.

I DON'T, SO I WILL SEND IT BACK TO, OH, COMMISSIONER WHITSETT, DID YOU ASK YOUR QUESTIONS OR? I DO HAVE SOME COMMENTS.

I GUESS MAYBE, UH, QUESTIONS FOR MR. BIGLEY AND PROBABLY FOR, UH, MR. MIRANDA.

OKAY.

UH, IT, BECAUSE THEY DID NOT COME BACK TO Y'ALL WHEN IT WAS EXPECTED.

THERE WOULD BE FURTHER DISCUSSION.

WOULD ANYTHING BE PRODUCTIVE IF THERE WAS A TWO WEEK DELAY, UH, FOR FURTHER DISCUSSIONS, UH, WITH THE RESIDENTS AROUND THERE? WELL, I THINK THERE WAS, I MEAN, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE, UM, COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE PLEASE? UM, YES, I THINK, I THINK THERE COULD BE SOME PRODUCTION THERE, JOHN.

UM, IT'S JUST THAT I THINK THAT IT WAS SO UPSETTING ABOUT THIS PROCESS WAS THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE BY THE DEVELOPER AND THE ATTORNEY ABOUT WHO WE WERE AS A NEIGHBORHOOD.

I MEAN, WHO, WE WERE NEIGHBORS.

WE WERE NOT AGAINST THIS BECAUSE OF LOW INCOME HOUSING.

WE, WE WERE, IF YOU LISTENED TO ALL THE, THE VOICEMAILS, 90% OF THEM DIDN'T EVEN MENTION THAT.

THEY MENTIONED THE TRAFFIC AND THEY MENTIONED ALL THESE OTHER ISSUES THAT HAVE COME UP.

UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY SAY, WELL YOU'VE GOT THIS THREE STORY APARTMENT BUILDING AND HE USES 50 FEET, IT'S GONNA BE 50 FEET FROM THE CLOSEST HOME.

WELL THAT'S LIKE 16 YARDS.

THAT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO TO, TO THIS, TO THESE HOUSES THAT ARE BACKING UP TO THIS,

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UH, THREE STORY APARTMENT BUILDING.

BUT IF IT'S A SITUATION THAT THIS IS GONNA HAPPEN AND THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, WE NEED TO GET TOGETHER AND TRY TO MAKE IT WHERE WE CAN, UM, LIVE WITH IT BASICALLY, UM, FROM THAT STANDPOINT AND DO THE, BECAUSE IF, IF IT'S JUST GONNA BE BUILT WITHOUT ANY INPUT FOR OUR CITIZENS.

THAT WAS THE MAIN THING ABOUT THIS.

IT IS REALLY SORT OF SHOCKED ME ABOUT THE PROCESS THAT, UM, THESE INCONSISTENCIES AND THESE THINGS THAT WERE SAID BY, UM, THE ATTORNEY AND, AND, AND THE INCONSISTENCIES THAT HAPPENED, UH, WE FELT LIKE THE CITIZENS AND YOU HEARD THE, THE VOICEMAIL THAT WE WERE JUST LIKE FORGOTTEN ABOUT.

AND YOU KNOW, I THINK THE CITIZENS IN SAN ANTONIO, IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE INPUT ABOUT THESE THINGS 'CAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT LIVE THERE.

THEY'RE THE ONES YOU CAN HAVE A TRAFFIC STUDY, BUT YOU HEARD ALL THE PEOPLE ABOUT HOW BAD THE TRAFFIC WAS ALREADY THERE.

THEY HAVE TO LIVE WITH THE TRAFFIC.

SO WHAT IS A STUDY BASICALLY WHEN YOU, YOU HEAR ON THE, UH, VOICEMAIL.

BUT YES, I THINK A TWO WEEK WOULD BE, OKAY.

SO QUESTION, UH, FOR THE OTHER HALF, UH, ARE YOU ALL ABLE TO PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER TO THEN GO BACK AND MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND TRY TO WORK SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO LIVE WITH? UH, YES, COMMISSIONER, WE ARE ABLE TO MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORS.

UH, BUT RESPECTFULLY, I WOULD NOT, UM, I WOULD LIKE A ZONING COMMISSION TO TAKE ACTION TODAY.

THERE IS ONE MONTH BETWEEN ZONING COMMISSION AND OUR STATED CITY COUNCIL HEARING DATE.

AND THE REASON THAT I WOULD LIKE ZONING COMMISSION TO TAKE ACTION TODAY IS BECAUSE WE ARE UP AGAINST A FUNDING DEADLINE.

AND I WILL LET, UH, DAN WILSON FROM A PC SPEAK FURTHER ABOUT THAT.

HI, GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS DAN WILSON.

I'M AN EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT AT ATLANTIC PACIFIC COMPANIES.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING US TODAY.

UH, JUST TO QUICKLY EXPLAIN, UM, THE PROCESS WITH T-D-H-C-A, WE JUST RECENTLY RECEIVED AN AWARD THAT AMOUNTS TO $20 MILLION IN TAX CREDITS TO FUND THIS DEVELOPMENT, THAT AWARD.

WE WILL RECEIVE A RESERVATION LETTER FROM T-D-H-C-A, UM, AND THAT LETTER IS EMINENT.

ONCE WE RECEIVE THAT LETTER, WE HAVE TO PROVE TO T-D-H-C-A THAT WE HAVE ADEQUATE ZONING IN PLACE WITHIN 30 DAYS OF RECEIPT OF THAT LETTER.

SO THE CURRENT SCHEDULED APPROVAL DATE FOR CITY COUNCIL IS SEPTEMBER 5TH, WHICH IS CONVENIENTLY ABOUT 30 DAYS FROM TODAY.

SO, UM, WHEN THAT LETTER ARRIVES, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HIT THAT DEADLINE.

AND AGAIN, JUST TO WRAP UP, COMMISSIONER FROM ZONING COMMISSION'S ACTION TODAY, THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL MONTH THAT WE CAN WORK WITH SPRING CREEK REGARDING LAND USE ISSUES AND CONCERNS RELATED TO THIS DEVELOPMENT.

OKAY.

UM, WELL I WOULD, I WOULD SAY THAT, UH, Y'ALL DIDN'T HANDLE THIS, UH, VERY WELL, UH, IN TERMS OF GETTING BACK TO 'EM.

AND NOW EVERYBODY'S TRYING TO PUT THE PRESSURE ON AND SAY THAT WE'VE GOTTA HAVE THIS, AND IF NOT, THEY'LL MISS OUT.

UM, I'M, I'M FINE MOVING FORWARD, UH, WITH SOME TYPE OF RECOMMENDATION, UM, BUT BASED UPON WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM THE NEIGHBORS AND ALL, UH, MY RECOMMENDATIONS CAN BE FOR DENIAL.

NOW I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REST OF THE COMMISSIONER'S GONNA BE, BUT MY, THAT IS MY RECOMMENDATION.

SO, UH, SO THAT'S YOUR MOTION.

MOTION FOR DENIAL.

IS THERE A SECOND? IS THERE A SECOND? OKAY, NOT HEARING A SECOND.

SO THE MOTION FOR DENIAL FAILS, AND SO THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR AN, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS, UH, SONY CASE.

SECOND.

ALRIGHT, THERE'S A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BARTOS TO APPROVE WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON.

DISCUSSION, UH, COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT, JUST MY, MY 2 CENTS COMMENTS, UH, CHAIR, I, I WAS ONE OF THOSE VERY PESSIMISTIC ABOUT A DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT INTER PARK, UH, WHICH AFTER I WENT THREE TIMES, GET TO SEE THE DEVELOPMENT, THE EFFORTS AND HOW IT HELPED A LOT OF PEOPLE.

I SAW SENIORS LIVING THERE, RETIRED PEOPLE

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LIVING THERE, AND A LOT OF NURSES AND PEOPLE FROM THE MEDICAL PROFESSION LIVING AT THAT FACILITY, WHICH I WAS VERY IMPRESSED.

SO MY OPINION CHANGED.

I WAS IN THE SAME WAY OF, UH, SEVERAL COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS AND DOUBT.

BUT THE BEST THING TO DO IS GO SEE THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS.

AND YOU LEARN A LOT ABOUT HOW OTHER PEOPLE LIVE IN A VERY, VERY DISTANT PLACE WITH WASHERS AND DRYERS AND NEW KITCHENS AND NEW CEILING FANS.

AND, UH, THERE WAS A SPEAKER HERE TODAY THAT MENTIONED IS THE FIRST TIP, MAYBE IT TAKES THEM FIVE TO 10 YEARS TO OWN A HOME, WHICH WAS ALSO MY DREAM, 20 SOME YEARS AGO.

UH, AND NOW WE'VE OWNED FOUR DIFFERENT HOMES.

SO IT'S, IT IS THE AMERICAN DREAM AND YOU GOTTA START SOMEWHERE.

SO I, UM, THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE'LL SUPPORT THIS, UH, PROJECT, UH, COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE.

UM, I, I UNDERSTAND ALSO THAT PEOPLE CAN BE HESITANT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT APARTMENTS IN GENERAL.

UH, BUT THE TRUTH IS WE NEED A MIX OF HOUSING IN THESE COMMUNITIES.

THAT MIX MUST INCLUDE, UH, MULTIFAMILY, UH, IN THIS CASE AS MR. UH, DENDA, AS THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE POINTED OUT REPEATEDLY.

THIS IS A FIVE LANE ARTERIAL.

THIS IS WHERE WE WOULD EXPECT TO SEE MULTIFAMILY HOUSING.

THIS IS WHERE WE WOULD EXPECT TO SEE SOME COMMERCIAL.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, GIVEN SOME OF THE EFFORTS TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE OVERLOOK ISSUES IN PARTICULAR THAT WERE RAISED BY THE NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, BOTH PREVIOUSLY AND AT THE MAY 15TH MEETING, UM, GIVEN THE OUTREACH, AND I DO INTEND FOR THE APPLICANTS TO CONTINUE THAT OUTREACH.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE PRESSURE IS NOT JUST TO MY MIND ON, UH, THE RESIDENTS, BUT ALSO THE APPLICANTS TO NOW GET TOGETHER, UH, BECAUSE THE COMMISSION IS A RECOMMENDING BODY.

AND SO CITY COUNCIL, OF COURSE, WILL HAVE THE FINAL SAY AND EVERYONE NEEDS TO GET TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THIS PROJECT GETS DONE AND GETS DONE IN A WAY THAT HOPEFULLY IS ACCEPTABLE TO THE RESIDENTS AS WELL.

UH, WELL, UH, I'M GOING TO TAKE A QUICK POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE AND SAY THE STAFF THAT SUPPORTS THE ZONING COMMISSION IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO ALL OF THE DECISIONS WE MAKE.

UM, AND I APPRECIATE THEIR CANDOR, THEIR ABILITY, AND THEIR KNOWLEDGE.

UM, IT PAINS ME WHEN PEOPLE QUESTION EITHER THE STAFF IN GENERAL OR AS INDIVIDUALS, AND I WOULD NOT ADVISE THAT IN THE FUTURE.

UM, I DISAGREE WITH STAFF FREQUENTLY, UH, AS THEY WELL KNOW.

UH, BUT NEVER EVER WOULD I IMPEACH THEM OR THEIR WORK.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER.

NO COMMENT ACTUALLY.

OH, UM, EVERYTHING WAS SAID ALREADY FOR ME, SO THANK YOU.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THE COMMENTS HERE IS THAT IF THIS IS GOING FORWARD, THAT, UM, THE FENCING, I'D LIKE SOME CLARITY ON WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

UH, AND THEN ALSO THAT IF Y'ALL DO DECIDE TO VOTE FOR THIS, THAT THE FENCING, UH, THAT IT WOULD BE AGREED TO WOULD BE INCLUDED AND THE, THE TREES AS PART OF THE PLAN SO THEY CAN'T BACK OFF FROM IT.

WELL, JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE, UM, WITH MIXED USE, THERE IS A MANDATORY BUFFER OF 15 FEET, WHICH DOES INCLUDE A SOLID, UH, FENCE.

UH, HEIGHT WISE WE CAN ONLY REGULATE SIX FEET.

SO, UH, IT COULD BE THEY COULD GO UP TO EIGHT TO EIGHT, CORRECT.

OKAY.

AND JUST THAT POINT, COMMISSIONER, WE ARE COMMITTED TO REQUESTING AN EIGHT FOOT DEFENSE IF AND WHEN WE GO TO CITY COUNCIL.

ALRIGHT, UH, COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES.

UM, I STRONGLY SUPPORT APPROVING THIS PROJECT.

IT ALIGNS WITH A NUMBER OF CITY PRIORITIES AND WHILE THERE COULD HAVE BEEN ADDITIONAL COMMUNICATION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, AS UNLIKELY AS AN AGREEMENT MAY HAVE BEEN SINCE MAY, UM, THE APPLICANT DID BEGIN COMMUNITY OUTREACH AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS PROCESS IN JANUARY AND HAVE MADE SUBSTANTIAL MODIFICATIONS TO THEIR PLANS.

UM, OVER TIME.

THIS STARTED AS A FOUR STORY PROJECT.

IT'S BEEN REDUCED, MULTIPLE AMENDMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE TO THE INGRESS AND EGRESS POINTS.

UM, THERE'S A GREAT DEAL OF THOUGHT AND EXTRA CONDITIONS THAT THEY'VE INCLUDED, UM, IN CONCESSION TO THE COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF THEIR BUFFERING AND LANDSCAPING TO TRY AND ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS.

AND WHILE I UNDERSTAND THEIR FRUSTRATION BEING FROM A COMMUNITY AND REPRESENTING A DISTRICT THAT OFTEN GETS MISINFORMATION AND DOESN'T GET A FAIR SHAKE IN TERMS OF GETTING OUTREACH, UM, IN THIS CASE, YOUR THE DATA DOES NOT SUPPORT SOME OF THE, UM, CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC AND DRAINAGE.

THIS ACTUALLY IS

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GOING TO IMPROVE TRAFFIC AND DRAINAGE SUBSTANTIALLY AND IS GONNA HAVE A LOWER IMPACT THAN WHAT COULD BE PERMITTED TODAY.

AND WHILE A LOT OF TIMES, ESPECIALLY IN AREAS NOT USED TO MORE INTENSE DEVELOPMENT, PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO SEE DEVELOPABLE LAND STAY UNDEVELOPED.

IT IS PRIVATE PROPERTY, IT CAN BE DEVELOPED.

THIS IS A PROPOSAL THAT ADVANCES NUMEROUS POLICY GOALS AND WILL HAVE A LOWER IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY OVERALL THAN WHAT CAN CURRENTLY BE BUILT TODAY.

AND FOR THOSE REASONS, I AM SUPPORTING THIS, UH, CASE MOVING FORWARD.

AND, UM, I THINK IT IS, WHILE NOT IDEAL FOR EVERYONE, A BETTER OUTCOME THAN YOU COULD HAVE TODAY.

UM, AND SOMETHING TO CONSIDER, UM, AS YOU WORK TOWARD AN AGREEMENT AND BETTER UNDERSTANDING BEFORE COUNCIL.

UM, I WOULD SUGGEST SINCE THERE MAY NOT BE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES, THAT YOU AT LEAST TRY AND WORK OUT SOME CONDITIONS AND AGREEMENT TO THAT, UM, TO REASSURE NEIGHBORS AS THIS NEXT STEP THAT MAY HELP, UM, IN PREPARATION FOR COUNSEL.

UH, BUT THOSE ARE THE REASONS WHY I'M SUPPORTING THIS CASE.

AND, UM, JUST WANTED THAT TO BE ON THE RECORD.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER'S ON MY RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER HUEY.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

SO I'M GOING TO BE SUPPORTING THIS, UM, REZONING, UH, TO MY RECENT MEMORY.

YOU KNOW, I HAVE REVIEWED AT LEAST TWO OF THESE CASES, EVEREST AND IN THE PARK AND YOU KNOW, THE RESIDENTS DID COME OUT AS THE FOLKS HERE HAVE DONE AND HAVE EXPRESSED THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC, ABOUT UM, DRAINAGE, ABOUT CRIMES.

AND FRANKLY, THOSE ARE RELEVANT CONCERNS, RIGHT? BUT TO DATE, UH, I THINK, UH, COMMISSIONER BARTOS HAS MENTIONED HOW WELL INTER PARK IS OPERATING AND ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT EVEREST IS ALSO OPERATING REALLY WELL.

SO WHILE I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS FROM THE RESIDENT, I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A TRACK RECORD WITH THESE DEVELOPERS THAT REALLY OUGHT TO BE CONSIDERED.

SO AGAIN, BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN THE SUCCESS FROM THIS TEAM, I'M GONNA BE SUPPORTING THIS MOTION.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UH, COMMISSIONER OSA AND I AS WELL BE SUPPORTING THIS MOTION.

UM, I THINK IT'S A GREAT FOR THE, FOR THE AREA, THAT PRE-K PAD AREA THAT, I MEAN FOR THE RESIDENTS.

I MEAN THAT, I THINK THAT WHAT TOP ME OVER, BUT JUST BE MINDFUL OF THE ELDERS.

I KNOW IF, IF WE APPROVE EVERYTHING FOR NOW, I'M ASSUMING YOU GUYS WILL COME BACK HOPEFULLY LATER, BUT I WANT TO HEAR THAT YOU GUYS WORK WITH YOUR, YOUR NEIGHBORS.

I WANT YOU TO MAKE SURE YOU GOT THAT EIGHT FOOT FIN SOLID GOLD.

JUST KIDDING.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND WHATEVER, WHATEVER THEY, THEY, THEY NOT WHATEVER THEY WANT, BUT I MEAN, LET'S, LET'S WORK TOGETHER.

I DON'T WANT TO HEAR LATER ON.

WELL THEY GOT THE APPROVAL AND I DIDN'T GET THIS DONE.

WE DIDN'T GET THIS BECAUSE WE WILL REMEMBER.

UM, THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, UH, COMMISSIONER CHASE, I WILL ALSO BE SUPPORTING THIS, BUT I ALSO JUST WANTED TO ENCOURAGE, UM, MORE CONVERSATION BETWEEN THE APPLICANT AND THE RESIDENTS.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

UM, EXCUSE ME.

RE COMMISSIONER REYES, DID YOU HAVE ANY? NO SPEECHES.

OKAY, GREAT.

UM, IT'S ALWAYS HARD GOING LAST ON COMMENTS BECAUSE ALL THE OTHER COMM WHAT EVERYBODY SAYS, WHAT YOU WANT, EVERYBODY WANTS TO, EVERYBODY SAYS WHAT THEY WANT AND I'M LIKE, DANG IT, I CAN'T LOOK LIKE SMART OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT .

UM, BUT UM, I KIND OF TOOK A DIFFERENT APPROACH TO THIS CASE AND BECAUSE AS ZONING, IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER THE APARTMENTS ARE A MILLION DOLLARS A PIECE OR WHETHER IT'S, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT IT AS BASICALLY MF 25, WHICH IS PRETTY LOW MULTIFAMILY, UM, AS FAR AS UH, DENSITY.

UM, AND I LOOK AT IT AS, OKAY, IS THIS IS A SMALLER SCALE APARTMENT COMPLEX WITH A SMALL COMMERCIAL ADJACENT.

IN OTHER WORDS MIXED USE.

IS THAT APPROPRIATE FOR A LONG, UM, NADOS ROAD? AND, UM, BASED ON THAT, UM, I BELIEVE THAT IT IS.

UM, I DO AGREE THAT, THAT THERE SHOULD BE ADDITIONAL OUTREACH BEFORE CITY COUNCIL.

UM, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE HAS BEEN SOME, UH, GOOD MODIFICATIONS FROM THE INITIAL CONCEPT.

UM, ESPECIALLY THE REDUCTION IN HEIGHT.

UM, I KNOW WHEN WE HAD IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT BUILT ADJACENT TO US, THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIG THINGS WAS, WAS UM, WE DON'T, WE DIDN'T WANT FOUR STORY APARTMENTS RIGHT

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NEXT TO IN, IN THE BACKYARDS.

AND SO THE REDUCTION IN HEIGHT WAS FOR US, THE BIGGEST, THE BIGGEST THING.

UM, SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS EVEN THOUGH I AM, THE THING THAT I LEARNED OVER THE LAST COUPLE DAYS IS THAT VIA LINK EXISTS BECAUSE I HAD NEVER HEARD OF THAT, THAT I DID NOT REALIZE THERE WERE AREAS OF SAN ANTONIO THAT DON'T HAVE SIX BUS STOPS AT THE END OF THEIR ROAD LIKE I DO.

UM, BUT IN THAT CASE, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER BARTOS WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON.

THAT WAS YOU, CORRECT? MM-HMM.

.

ALRIGHT.

ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES.

COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES.

COMMISSIONER NOOSA.

AYE.

COMMISSIONER REYES? YES.

COMMISSIONER BUSANTE.

AYE.

COMMISSIONER HUEY AYE.

COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES.

COMMISSIONER TZA? NO.

COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES.

CHAIR SIPES? YES.

MOTION.

MOTION CARRIES.

ALL RIGHT, WELL THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT.

UM, ONCE AGAIN, WE ARE RECOMMENDING BODIES.

SO CITY COUNCIL IS THE FINAL DETERMINATION.

I'M TRYING TO THINK OF THE RIGHT WORD.

I WAS GONNA SAY ARBITER, BUT I WAS LIKE, I'M NOT REAL SURE IF THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO SAY.

ALRIGHT, UH, MINUTES.

SO

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HAS EVERYONE REVIEWED THE MINUTES? NO.

YOU HAVE NOT REVIEWED THE MINUTES OR NO, THERE'S COMMENTS ON THE MINUTES.

ALRIGHT, IS THERE, WELL, IS THERE A, A MOTION ON THE MINUTES OR CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES CHAIR? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE MINUTES FOR APPROVAL.

SECOND.

OKAY.

WHO WAS THE SECOND? WAS THAT YOU? COMMISSIONER BARTOS.

OKAY.

MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.

UM, BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BOTS.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

DO WHAT? UH, COMMISSIONER WHITT, DID YOU WANT TO ABSTAIN OR ABSTAIN? OKAY.

COMMISSIONER WHIT'S GONNA ABSTAIN.

YEAH.

UM, DO WE HAVE A DIRECTOR'S

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REPORT? UM, NOT EXACTLY DIRECTOR'S REPORT, BUT I JUST, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF I HAD MENTIONED CHRISTIE FLORES, OUR PLANNING MANAGER SHOULD BE GETTING MORE INVOLVED.

SHE WAS OKAYED BY HER DOCTORS AND EVERYTHING.

SO YOU'LL START SEATING, SEEING EMAILS AND HOPEFULLY YOU'LL SEE HER IN THE OFFICE FOR THE NEXT MEETING.

UPCOMING.

SO, SO THANK YOU.

BUT THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.

SO THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO WONDER WHEN, WHEN WE HEAR THE DEEP VOICE, WHERE IS THAT COMING FROM? , YOU KNOW, WE'LL BE EXPECTING .

SORRY.

SORRY.

WE ALWAYS DO APPRECIATE MEKA THOUGH FOR WE DO, WE DO.

IT'S JUST, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF UNEXPECTED.

LAST TIME YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN ME .

ALRIGHT.

UM, WITH THAT, THE TIME IS 4 42 AND THE ZONING COMMISSION FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO IS ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.