[00:00:02] >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. WELCOME TO OUR CITY COUNCIL ZONING MEETING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. THE CITY COUNCIL HAS RECONVENED FROM ITS EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 2:04 P.M. NO OFFICIAL ACTION WAS TAKEN. OUR A SESSION IS ADJOURN. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL OUR ZONING MEETING TO ORDER. MADAM CLERK, COULD YOU READ THE ROLL. QUORUM. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: OKAY. SO WE HAVE -- I'M GOING TO READ SOME ITEMS HERE SO YOU'LL KNOW BECAUSE THERE ARE A COUPLE OF ITEMS TO MOVE TO AUGUST 15TH. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT WILL MOVE TO SEPTEMBER 5. THEN THERE ARE THREE ITEMS -- FOUR ITEMS, EXCUSE ME, THAT WILL BE BE HEARD INDIVIDUALLY. ITEMS 9, 16, 19 AND 20 WILL BE HEARD INDIVIDUALLY. ITEMS 4 AND 17 WILL BE CONTINUED TO AUGUST 15. AND ITEMS 11 AND 13 WILL BE CONTINUED TO SEPTEMBER 5TH ALL THE REMAINING ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA WILL BE HEARD ON CONSENT AND I'LL NOTE ITEMS 21 AND 22 HAVE BEEN WITHDRAWN AND WILL NOT BE HEARD TODAY. FIRST I'M GOING TO ASK IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER ITEMS TO PULL FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA TO BE HEARD INDIVIDUALLY OR TO CONTINUE TO ANOTHER TIME. OKAY. IF THERE ARE NONE, WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL TAKE THESE CONTINUING ITEMS FIRST. SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ITEMS 4 AND 17 TO MOVE TO AUGUST 15. >> SO MOVED. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR MOVING ITEMS -- CONTINUING ITEMS 4 AND 17 TO AUGUST 15. WE HAVE A COUPLE FOLKS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEM 4. THIS WON'T BE DECIDED -TODAY, WE'RE GOING TO DO IT AUGUST 15, NEXT WEEK. IF YOU DON'T WANT YOUR TIME, SIGNAL ME AND I'LL MOVE ON. ANGELINA AGUILAR. OKAY. GREAT. JACK FINGER. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG, OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, MY NAME IS JACK FINGER, AND ITEM NUMBER 4 IS IN DISTRICT 6. MS. HAVRDA, THAT'S YOUR DISTRICT. IT'S AN ALCOHOL VARIANCE. ALCOHOL VARIANCE. WELL, THE STATE HAS LAWS. YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE ALCOHOL SOLD WITHIN 300 FEET OF A SCHOOL. BUT IT ALLOWS LOCAL GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES TO SAY NOTE OF THAT, UNFORTUNATELY, AND IN MY OPINION AND THAT'S WHAT'S ABOUT TO HAPPEN HERE ASSUMING YOU ALL TO ALLOW THIS TO CONTINUE OR SAY YES TO IT. BUT YES, YOU HAVE A SCHOOL, THE IDEA MAZE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL OVER ON SOUTH LOOP 410. YOU REALLY WANT TO HAVE ALCOHOL SOLD 300 FEET WITH WHERE SCHOOL KIDS PLAY. I'D APPRECIATE IT IF YOU SAY NO TO IT. IF YOU DON'T SAY NO TO IT LATER ON. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, MR. FINGER. THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR CONTINUING ITEMS 4 AND 17 TO AUGUST 15TH. ANY DISCUSSION FROM COUNCIL? HEARING NONE, PLEASE VOTE. MOTION CARRIES. ITEM 11 AND 13 WILL BE CONTINUED TO SEPTEMBER 5TH I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THAT. THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND. THERE ARE -- WELL, JACK FINGER IS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. JACK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK ON THESE? >> YES. MAYOR NIRENBERG, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, ONCE AGAIN, ITEM NUMBER 14 -- LET'S CHECK OUR NOTES HERE. WE HAVE QUITE A FEW OF THEM. YES. THE -- >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: 11 AND 13, JACK. [00:05:02] >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE CORRECTION THERE. YES. THIS ITEM NUMBER 3 -- 11, EXCUSE ME, THIS IS IN DISTRICT 3 AND THIS IS IN MS. VIAGRAN, VIAGRAN, HARD TO GET THESE THINGS STRAIGHT. YES, YOU ARE GOING TO OFFER A -- WELL, WHAT IS IT? A MULTI-FAMILY, AN APARTMENT COMPLEX IN THE AREA OF COMMERCIAL AVENUE. AND AS MANY AS 30 NOTICES WENT OUT. AT LEAST 13% SAID THEY DIDN'T WANT IT. WHEN YOU HAVE ANYTHING OVER 5 OR 10%, THAT'S SIGNIFICANT. SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCES. IT'S A GOOD REASON FOR IT THERE. THEY THINK IT REALLY KIND OF DESTROYS THE NATURE OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, SO YES. THAT WAS NUMBER 11. ALSO I BELIEVE, MR. MAYOR, WE HAD ANOTHER ONE THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE -- THAT WAS SEPTEMBER 5TH, THAT'S RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER 11 AND 13. OKAY. HERE ARE SOME OTHER CONTROVERSIES WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT HERE. IN DISTRICT 5, MS. CASTILLO, YOU HAVE A PROPOSAL FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS. LITTLE APARTMENTS THERE TO BE SHOE-HORNED INTO A -- THE 200 BLOCK OF TAFT BOULEVARD. THE REASON THE PALM HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION DOESN'T WANT IT IS BECAUSE THEY THINK FOUR UNITS IS TOO INTENSE. THEY MIGHT GO ALONG WITH TWO UNITS, BUT YOU REALLY DO NEED TO SAY NO TO THAT ONE THERE AND, WELL, IF YOU ARE NOT -- UNLESS YOU SAY NO TO IT LATER ON THAT YOU CONTINUE IT. BUT YEAH, I MEAN YOU HAVE TO AGREE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. FOUR UNITS INTO A TINY, LITTLE AREA? WHAT KIND OF LIVING CONDITIONS IS THAT GOING TO BE FOR THE FUTURE WHERE KIDS --S GROW UP, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. AND YOU KNOW, THESE ARE ITEMS THAT EVERY ONE OF YOU VOTE UPON. WHY DON'T YOU CHIME IN WITH THESE THINGS? THANK YOU. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, MR. FINGER. ANY DISCUSSION ON ITEMS 11 AND 13? HEARING NONE, THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND FOR CONTINUING THOSE ITEMS TO SEPTEMBER 5TH. PLEASE VOTE. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. WE'LL TAKE THE CONSENT ZONING AGENDA AT THIS TIME. ITEMS 1, 2, 3, 5 AND 6, 7, 8, 10, 12, 14, 15, AND 18. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF THOSE. >> I MAKE A MOTION. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THERE'S A NOTION AND SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT ZONING AGENDA. WE HAVE SEVERAL FOLKS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. ALL OF THOSE ITEMS WILL BE APPROVED TODAY. I'LL CALL. >> ADVANTAGE LEAN AGUILAR. JACK FINGER ON MULTIPLE ITEMS. >> YES, THIS IS GETTING A LITTLE MONOTONOUS. MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, MY NAME IS JACK FINGER, AND A FEW OF THE ITEMS YOU ARE GOING TO ALLOW TO SAIL ON THROUGH ARE SOME MORE ALCOHOL VARIANCES HERE. BARS, ALCOHOL SALES WITHIN 300 FEET OF SCHOOLS WHERE SCHOOL KIDS PLAY. YES, AND THIS IS IN -- FIRST ONE I'M LOOKING AT HERE IS IN -- A COUPLE ARE IN COUNCILWOMAN KAUR'S DISTRICT, DISTRICT 1. YES, MS. KAUR, OVER ON EAST MISSILE TOE, THE RAFAEL GONZALES EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION CENTER HAS A BAR GOING UP, AND YOU REALLY NEED TO SAY NO TO THIS ONE, MA'AM. MS. KAUR. YEAH. THAT'S RIGHT. ALSO, OVER ON SOUTH PRESA STREET, YOU HAVE -- THE JAMES BONHAM COMBED WITHIN 300 FEET, ALCOHOL SALES. [00:10:03] YOU KNOW, I REALLY WISH YOU WOULD JUST SURPRISE US ALL AND HAVE SOMEONE SAY NO TO THESE THINGS, YOU KNOW, AND JUST HAVE US ALL FALL OUT OF OUR SEATS. MS. VIAGRAN, ONCE AGAIN IN YOUR DISTRICT, YOU HAVE THE -- OVER ON SOUTHWEST MILITARY, YOU HAVE THE UNIVERSITY OF THE INCARNATE WORD. YES, UNIVERSITY OF INCARNATE WORD OF OSTEOPATHIC MEDICINE. HERE YOU HAVE COLLEGE KIDS THERE WITH -- AND YES, I KNOW THEY ARE COLLEGE AGE AND MAYBE THEY CAN DRINK OR MAYBE THEY CAN'T. DO YOU REALLY WANT A BAR GOING UP OFFERING THE TEMPTATION OF WINE TASTING EXPEDITION THERE? YOU KNOW, COULDN'T YOU JUST SAY NO TO THESE THINGS JUST FOR ONCE THERE. YOU KNOW, I JUST THOUGHT I WOULD LET YOU KNOW THAT -- LIKE I SAY, SO MANY SCANDALS, SO LITTLE TIME. THERE IS ONE OTHER ONE I DO WISH TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION HERE AND IT IS -- YEAH, ITEM -- YES. TAKES A LITTLE WHILE TO GET ORGANIZED HERE. OVER IN -- MS. CASTILLO, ONCE AGAIN IN YOUR AREA, QUINTANA ROAD. BY GOLLY, YOU WANT TO PLACE ANOTHER ILLUSTRIOUS BAR OVER THERE LIKE THE WEST SIDE DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH BARS. COULD YOU PLEASE ACTUAL THIS ONE AND SAY NO TO IT. DO WE REALLY NEED IT? THANK YOU. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, MR. FINGER. NEXT WE HAVE YVONNE DANIELS AN ITEM 6. >> YOU. JAVIER WOO ON ITEM 8. >> >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU. JESSE AGIRREE ON ITEM 15. >> MY NAME IS JONATHAN AGIRREE. TALKING ABOUT THE PROPERTY ON 1601 QUINTANA ROAD. WE'VE BEEN THERE SINCE 1967 AND WE'VE BEEN OPEN SINCE COVID HIT AND PLANNED TO OPEN IT AGAIN BUT SHE PASSED AWAY FROM COVID. TRYING TO LEAVE A LEGACY AND OPEN IT UP AGAIN. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU. THAT IS EVERYONE WHO SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THE CONSENT ZONING ITEMS, SO I'LL TURN TO COUNCIL DISCUSSION. I DON'T HAVE A QUEUE, SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SIGNAL ME IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON CONSENT ZONING ITEMS. HEARING NONE, ALL THE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT THERE IS A MOTION AND SECOND FOR APPROVAL. PLEASE VOTE. MOTION CARRIES. WE'LL MOVE NOW TO ITEM NUMBER 9. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9 IS CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C-1 TO C-2 WITH AMENDED PROPERTY BOUNDARY TO 0.049 ACRES. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 7300 BLANCO ROAD. STAFF AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL. 68 NOTICES MAILED, THREE IN FAVOR, ZERO IN OPTICIAN AND THE GREATER HARMONY HILLS ASSOCIATION DOES NOT OPPOSE THE REQUEST. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: NO ONE HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. COUNCILMEMBER KAUR. >> KAUR: MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 9. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THERE IS A MOTION AND SECOND TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 9. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE VOTE. MOTION CARRIES. ITEM NUMBER 16. [00:15:11] WE HAD ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR, TWO IN OPPOSITION. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THERE IS ONE CITIZEN SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. JACK FINGER. MAYOR NIRENBERG, OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, MY NAME IS JACK M. FINGER, AND THIS ZONING ITEM IS IN THE FAR WEST PART OF TOWN. IT'S OVER IN MS. HAVRDA'S DISTRICT, DISTRICT 6. MS. HAVRDA, I NOTICE THAT THIS -- THIS ONE HAS SOME EVEN BIGGER RED FLAGS THAN THE PREVIOUS PORTIONS HAD HERE. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL. WHY DO THEY RECOMMEND DENIAL TO THIS ITEM? WELL, OVER HERE ON WEST MILITARY, IT'S BECAUSE WEST MILITARY AND WOODGATE DRIVE. I THINK IT'S BECAUSE THE BIG VEHICLES, BIG TRUCKS AND SO FORTH ARE TOO INTENSE FOR THE SURROUNDING SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT'S WHY THEY SUGGESTED YOU -- WELL, SAY NO TO THIS ONE AND HAVE THEM GO SOMEWHERE ELSEWHERE IT ISN'T SO INTENSE FOR ALL THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE TO LIVE AROUND THERE. WHAT DO YOU SAY? WHY NOT SAY NO TO THIS ONE AS WELL. LIKEWISE, EVERYBODY ELSE. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, MR. FINGER. COUNCILMEMBER CABELLO HAVRDA. >> HAVRDA: THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WANT TO JUST ADD SOME LANGUAGE TO THE ITEM. THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO A 25-FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER ON THE SIDE OF THE PROPERTY THAT ABUTS THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. WILL YOU EXPLAIN THE ISSUE WITH THE OVERSIZED VEHICLES? >> SO THE USE THAT THEY ARE REQUESTING IS TO STORE OVERSIZED VEHICLES. THE WAY OUR CODE IS WRITTEN, IT DOESN'T ALLOW US TO SEPARATE OR SPECIFY WHICH TYPE OF OVERSIZED VEHICLE. BECAUSE OUR CODE HAS THAT INCLUDED ALL IN ONE CATEGORY, THE CONDITIONAL USE WOULD AUTHORIZE THE STORAGE OF WHETHER IT'S BOATS, RVS, 18-WHEELERS. >> HAVRDA: WITH THE ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE, I MOVE TO APPROVE. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THERE'S A MOTION, WAS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: MOTION AND SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM 16 WITH CONDITIONS. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE VOTE. MOTION CARRIES. WE'LL GO TO ITEMS 19 AND 20. ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL. WE DID MAIL 12 NOTICES. WE HAD ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR AND NONE IN OPPOSITION. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: WE'VE GOT A COUPLE FOLKS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEMS 19 AND 20. BEGIN WITH JOHN GRIMES. MR. GRIMES, YOU WILL BE FOLLOWED BY JACK FINGER. GO AHEAD, MR. GRIMES. I WAS JUST CALLING WHO IS NEXT AFTER YOU. >> IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING -- JOHN GRIMES WITH PET FOLK AND IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING PRIOR TO COMING TO THIS MEETING THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE PRE-APPROVED -- THAT WE WERE APPROVED FOR THE C-2 S ZONING. SO HERE'S -- I'M GOING TO SAY WE APPRECIATE THE COUNCILMAN'S RECOMMENDATION FOR THE C-2 S ZONING AND PET FOLK WOULD BE PROUD TO BE PART OF THE SAN ANTONIO COMMUNITY AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT ANYBODY HAS. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. GRIMES. JACK FINGER. >> MAYOR, OTHER MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS JACK M. FINGER, AND I TOO WANT TO COMMENT ON THIS CASE. ONCE AGAIN, THE ZONING STAFF THOUGHT IT WAS A BAD IDEA BECAUSE, WELL, IN THEIR WORDS IT IS TOO INTENSE FOR [00:20:02] THIS AREA HERE. I LOOKED AT THE MAP AND YEAH, I DIDN'T SEE -- I DIDN'T SEE THAT MANY RESIDENCES. APPARENTLY IT'S TOO INTENSE FOR ALL THE BUSINESSES AROUND THERE. SO YEAH. ANIMAL CLINIC, VETERINARIAN CLINIC, HOSPITAL, WHATEVER YOU HAVE THERE, YEAH. NOW, YOU MIGHT ASK THE STAFF WHAT IS IT ABOUT THE INTENSITY ABOUT THE ANIMAL CLINIC THAT MAKES IT FAIRLY INCOMPATIBLE WITH ALL THE SURROUNDING AREAS THERE. YOU MIGHT -- YEAH, BECAUSE LIKE I SAY, THEY ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE TO DO BUSINESS THERE. AND ESPECIALLY -- THOSE ARE -- ASK THE GENTLEMAN HERE THAT JUST SAID FEEL FREE TO ASK HIM QUESTIONS, WHAT IS IT ABOUT IT THERE. ASSUMING YOU WANT TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF EVERYTHING. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, MR. FINGER. COUNCILMEMBER COURAGE. >> COURAGE: THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WOULD LIKE TO CONCUR WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL ON THE PLAN CHANGE, BUT THAT WE HAVE APPROVAL FOR SPECIAL USE FOR THE VETERINARY CLINIC. >> IN THE C-2 DISTRICT? >> COURAGE: YES, REMAIN IN C-2 ZONING. SO THAT'S MY MOTION. >> SECOND. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. >> IT'S A MOTION -- MOTION TO APPROVE STAFF'S ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: ALL RIGHT. LET ME STATE IT THAT WAY. THERE WAS A MOTION AND SECOND TO APPROVE THE STAFF'S ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION. >> CORRECT. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT IF? >> DISCUSSION, NO ONE ELSE HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM, PLEASE VOTE. MOTION CARRIES. THAT IS THE BALANCE OF OUR ZONING AGENDA TODAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PATIENCE. AT 2:26 P.M. ON AUGUST 8, 2024, WE ARE ADJOURNED. HAVE A GREAT AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.