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IF WE COULD BEGIN WITH OUR SPANISH TRANSLATION SERVICES STATEMENT, PLEASE.
MY NAME IS ROB SIPES AND I AM THE CHAIR OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT SEVEN ZONING COMMISSIONER.
I HEREBY CALL THIS REGULAR NOTICE MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION INTO SESSION.
I'D LIKE TO DO A ROLL CALL BY ALLOWING THE ZONING COMMISSIONERS TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, STARTING WITH THE COMMISSIONER ON MY FAR LEFT.
JOHN BUSTAMONTE, DISTRICT FIVE, OAL ORTIZ, DISTRICT EIGHT.
DANIEL KELLUM, DISTRICT ONE, JOHN WITT, DISTRICT 10, TAYLOR WATSON, DISTRICT TWO.
GEORGE AND OSA DISTRICT THREE.
STAFF IS A IS A QUORUM PRESENT? A QUORUM IS PRESENT.
WOULD EVERYONE PLEASE STAND FOR OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR MR. STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY JUSTICE FOR ALL.
ALL RIGHT, PRIOR TO CONVINCING OUR HEARING, I'D LIKE STAFF TO REVIEW OUR MEETING FORMAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE STAFF.
BEFORE I BEGIN, PLEASE TURN YOUR PHONES ON VIBRATE OR TURN THEM OFF.
THE ZONING COMMISSION IS AN 11 MEMBER BODY APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ZONING CASES UPON RECEIVING YOUR RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION, YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO FORWARD YOUR CASE TO CITY COUNCIL.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PROCEDURE, PLEASE CONTACT YOUR CASE MANAGER.
STAFF WILL BEGIN EACH CASE WITH A SHORT PRESENTATION OF THE REQUEST.
PART OF THE PRESENTATION INCLUDES A MAP THAT SHOWS THE AREA TO BE CONSIDERED FOR REZONING AND THE PROPERTY WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT.
PROPERTY CHECK MARKS INDICATE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND AN EX INDICATES THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN OPPOSITION.
FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION AND ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION, THE APPLICANT WILL PRESENT THEIR REQUEST FOR THOSE THAT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE PROPOSED REZONING.
YOU WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THAT YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
THOSE IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER AND YOU'RE NOT OBLIGATED TO UTILIZE THE MAXIMUM TIME LIMITATION.
YOU WILL BE INFORMED WHEN YOUR THREE MINUTES ARE UP.
FOR THOSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEIR TIME TO A SPEAKER, THE SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO PEOPLE GIVING THEIR TIME FOR A TOTAL OF NINE MINUTES.
THOSE GIVING UP THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AND SIGN IN TO SPEAK AND MUST YIELD THAT TIME.
WHEN THE SPEAKER GOES TO THE PODIUM, THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A REBUTTAL LIMITED TO ONE SPEAKER WITH A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT ALONG WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSION QUESTIONS.
AND LET ME JUST SAY BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO THE CHAIR, WE DON'T HAVE VERY MANY PEOPLE SIGNED IN, SO IF YOU FAILED TO SIGN IN, CAN YOU COME SEE KELLY WHILE UM, HE IS GOING OVER THE REST OF THE FORMAT OF THE MEETING? YOU DO NEED US BE SIGNED IN TO SPEAK IF YOU INTEND TO SPEAK TODAY.
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THANK YOU.UM, STAFF IF WE COULD GO OVER ANY WITHDRAWN OR POSTPONED ITEMS. ITEM NUMBER ONE IS POSTPONED TODAY.
THIS MEANS IT WILL NOT BE HEARD AT ALL.
UH, IT WILL BE BROUGHT BACK AT ANOTHER TIME.
IT IS CASE ENDING IN 0 6 9 S LOCATED AT 53 17
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WEST COMMERCE STREET.SO IF YOU ARE HERE FOR THAT ITEM, WE WILL NOT BE DISCUSSING IT TODAY.
SO LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU HERE ARE HERE FOR THAT PROPERTY ON UH, WEST COMMERCE STREET, YOU ARE FREE TO TO LEAVE AND ENJOY THE WARM AFTERNOON AND YOU WILL BE RE NOTIFIED WITH A NEW NOTICE, UM, IF FUTURE ACTION OCCURS ON THAT ITEM.
ALL RIGHT, STAFF, IF WE COULD PLEASE GO OVER THE LIST OF ITEMS ON THE COMBINED AGENDA.
THE ITEMS FOR CONSENT AGENDA, WE HAVE ITEMS 6, 7, 8, 9 11, 12, 13, 15 IS PUT BACK ON, UM, THE CONSENT AGENDA, 16 AND 1920 AND THEN POTENTIALLY 21 MAY BE PULLED.
SO AGAIN FOR CONSENT WE HAVE 6, 7, 8, 9, 11, 12, 13, 15, 16, 19, AND 20.
ALL RIGHT, UH, COMMISSIONERS, ANY OF THE REMAINING ITEMS YOU WISH TO PULL TO INDIVIDUAL? RIGHT.
LOOKING LEFT, SEEING NONE, LOOKING RIGHT, SEEING NONE.
COMMISSIONER WHITSETT, DID YOU MENTION THAT FOUR WAS GOING DOWN THE INDIVIDUAL? UM, I HAVEN'T SAID THE, UH, INDIVIDUAL ITEMS. SO THIS IS JUST THE CONSENT AGENDA.
THIS IS, YES, SORRY, I, I, I SAID COMBINED SO AND YES AND 21 IS GOING TO STAY ON CONSENT AS WELL.
ALRIGHT, SO ANY OF THE ITEMS, UM, ANY COMMISSIONERS WISH TO PULL TO INDIVIDUAL? LOOKING LEFT, SEEING NONE, LOOKING RIGHT, SEEING NONE.
IF WE COULD PLEASE READ THOSE ITEMS INTO THE UM, RECORD PLEASE.
ITEM NUMBER SIX IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM I TWO TO C TWO IDZ LOCATED, I'M SORRY, WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 4 1 7 PROBAND STREET.
RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED LONE STAR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR.
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS A REQUEST AND CHANGE IN ZONING FROM RM FOUR TO IDZ ONE WITH USES PERMITTED IN RM FOUR RESIDENTIAL MIXED DISTRICT AND A NON-COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 4 2 0 2 WILLARD DRIVE.
ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR OF THE PARKING FOR THE, UM, EXISTING COMMERCIAL BUT OPPOSED TO ANY MULTI-FAMILY AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM UNIVERSITY PARK OR WOODLAWN HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM PUD MF 18 WITH A REDUCED PERIMETER SETBACK OF 10 FEET TO UM, WITH A TWO PUD MF 18 WITH A MAJOR SITE PLAN AMENDMENT AND WITH, UM, WITH A REDUCED PERIMETER SETBACK OF 10 FEET AND C TWO S WITH A SPECIFIC USE FOR A CAR WASH GENERALLY WITH ALL RELAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 11,000 BLOCK OF SOUTH US HIGHWAY 180 1 19.
NOTICES WERE SENT, ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED.
AND THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
ITEM NUMBER NINE IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM M-M-P-C-D TO MPCD FOR A MAJOR SITE PLAN AMENDMENT WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 1 6 9 1 8 BULVERDE ROAD, THE REMAINING MPCD AREA, IT WILL BE LEFT UNCHANGED.
ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED NORTHEAST NEIGHBORHOOD ALLIANCE, GAVE NO RESPONSE.
ITEM NUMBER 11 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FOUR TO R FOUR CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A COMPUTER SOFTWARE RETAIL, UH, WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
TWO RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ONE IN OPPOSITION AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM THE LOS ANGELES HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 12 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C3 NA AND IDZ THREE WITH USES PERMITTED IN C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT 900 DWELLING UNITS AND BAR AND OR TAVERN TO IDZ THREE WITH USES PERMITTED IN C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT 260 DWELLING UNITS AND A BAR AND OR TAVERN WITHOUT A COVER CHARGE THREE OR MORE DAYS PER WEEK WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 3 0 2 WEST JOSEPHINE STREET, THREE 12 WEST JOSEPHINE STREET, 4 0 7 WEST GRAYSON STREET, ONE 11 POLK STREET, ONE 15 POLK STREET AND ONE 19 POLK STREET.
ZERO OPPOSED TOBIN HILL COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM THE SAN ANTONIO TEXAS DISTRICT ONE RESIDENCE ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 13 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM OH ONE TO NC WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
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AT 1 8 1 8 NORTH COLORADO STREET.ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED.
AND UPTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR.
ITEM NUMBER 15 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C TWO TO C TWO S WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A CAR WASH WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 2 8 1 5 SOUTHEAST MILITARY DRIVE.
NOTICES WERE SENT TO RECEIVED IN FAVOR.
ZERO OPPOSED HIGHLAND HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR.
ITEM NUMBER 16 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM OH ONE TO NC WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 2 1 4 EAST ASHBY PLACE.
TOBIN HILL COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM THE MONTE VISTA HISTORICAL COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IN THE SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS DISTRICT ONE RESIDENCE ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 19 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM MPCD TO MPCD WITH A MAJOR SITE PLAN WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 15,000 BLOCK OF INNER PLACE ROAD AND THE 15,000 BLOCK OF ANTHEM PARKWAY.
THE REMAINING MPCD AREA WILL REMAIN UNCHANGED.
AND THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
ITEM NUMBER 20 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C TWO TO C TWO CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A TATTOO PARLOR WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 1 9 5 0 AUSTIN HIGHWAY 15.
AND THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
OUR LAST ITEM NUMBER 21 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM MULTIPLE DISTRICTS.
TWO R ONE R TWO R THREE R THREE CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS R FOUR AND R FOUR CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO R FOUR DWELLING UNITS.
R FIVE R SIX R SIX CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS RM FOUR RM FIVE RM SIX MF 18 MF 25 MF 33 NC C ONE C TWO C TWO NA I ONE IDZ ONE WITH USES PERMITTED IN C ONE AND IDZ TWO WITH USES PERMITTED IN C TWO WITH ALL OF LAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
GENERALLY BOUNDED BY THE EAST HOUSTON STREET TO THE SOUTH NORTH NEW BRAUNFELS AVENUE TO THE WEST AND THE UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD TRACKS TO THE NORTH AND EAST.
ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR, TWO OPPOSED.
AND THE HARVARD PLACED EAST LAWN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT.
THOSE ARE THOSE ITEMS. AND WE DO HAVE, UM, A VOICEMAIL FOR ITEM 11 AND WE HAVE A FEW SPEAKERS, UM, SIGNED UP FOR, FOR ITEM 21.
ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD BEGIN WITH THE VOICEMAIL PLEASE.
JOSE LEE RODRIGUEZ AT, UH, 1516 AND 1520 LEE HALL.
UH, I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO CASE NUMBER 0 1 3 6 C LIKE CAD D LIKE DOG.
I JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW THAT, UH, MY CONCERNS ARE THERE IS A LOT OF TRAFFIC UP AND DOWN.
IT, WE ARE LIKE THE, THE MAIN STREET, UH, TO, UH, I 10 TO GET ON I 10 EASTBOUND.
UH, THERE'S LOTS OF CARS ALWAYS PARKED ALONG THE CURB, UH, ON BOTH SIDES.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE DO NOT NEED MORE TRAFFIC OR MORE PEOPLE UP AND DOWN OUR STREETS.
UM, I THINK WE SHOULD STAY AS A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD AND THERE, I DON'T THINK THIS IS AN AREA FOR A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS.
UH, MY NUMBER IS 2 1 0 3 3 6 1 6 9 6 AND I REALLY HOPE THAT WE DO STAY AS A SINGLE FAMILY, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD WITH NO COMMERCIAL ATTACHED TO IT.
SO THAT IS IT FOR VOICEMAILS, UM, FOR OUR FIRST SPEAKER, MS UH, BRIDGET SHEPHERD, I HAVE YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THE LAST ITEM.
DID YOU STILL WANNA SPEAK? LOOKS LIKE SHE IS NOT IN THE AUDIENCE.
AND THEN LASTLY, MS. SUSAN KILGORE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO STILL SPEAK FOR THE LAST ITEM? YES.
IF YOU CAN PLEASE, UH, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE UNITED STATES ARMY.
THE ADDRESS, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE
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PROPERTY IN THE, UH, I MEAN, I CAN GIVE YOU MY ADDRESS, BUT IT'S UH, 2 5 8 0 0 RALPH FAIR ROAD, BERNIE, TEXAS 7 0 7 8 0 1 5.I'M MERELY STANDING UP TO SPEAK SO THAT WHEN THE TIME COMES TO ADDRESS THIS ITEM, UM, IF I HAVE ANY COMMENTS, I DON'T WANNA LOSE THE OPPORTUNITY I HAVEN'T MADE, I HAVE NO COMMENTS TO MAKE AT THIS TIME.
AND, UH, JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE, IT'S, IT'S ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
AND SO THAT IS IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
UM, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. ITEM NUMBER 6 7 8 9 11 12 13, 15, 16, 19, 20, AND 21.
ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
IS THERE A SECOND? MR. CHAIR? I SECOND.
ALRIGHT, THERE'S A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS. UH, 6 7, 8, 9 11, 12, 13, 15, 16, 19, 20, AND 21 BY COMMISSIONER WATSON WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HUEY.
IT'S SO WEIRD NOT TO SAY COMMISSIONER BOTTO SINCE HE'S NOT HERE
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU ARE HERE FOR ANY OF THOSE ITEMS, THOSE ITEMS WILL NOW BE PROCEEDING ON TO CITY COUNCIL.
SO YOU ARE FREE TO TO LEAVE AND ENJOY THE REST OF THE AFTERNOON.
ALRIGHT, WE ARE NOW GOING TO MOVE ON TO UM, OUR FIRST CONSENT OR NOT FIRST.
UM, THE TWO ITEMS REQUESTING A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE.
UM, ITEM NUMBER FIVE, GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 1900 BLOCK OF ROGERS ROAD.
AND ITEM NUMBER 10, UH, LOCATED AT 10 10 WARNER AVENUE.
AGAIN, THEY ARE REQUESTING A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE TO SEPTEMBER 3RD, 2024.
AND DID WE HAVE ANY, I'M SORRY, IT'S THREE WEEKS.
AND DID WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THESE ITEMS? NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
ALRIGHT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE CONTINUANCE.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEMS NUMBER FIVE AND NUMBER 10 TO THE SEPTEMBER 3RD HEARING.
IS THERE A SECOND MR. CHAIR? A SECOND MOTION.
THERE IS A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEMS FIVE AND 10 TO THE SEPTEMBER 3RD MEETING BY COMMISSIONER WATSON WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HUEY.
WE WILL SEE Y'ALL IN THREE WEEKS.
WE HAVE A SECOND CONTINUANCE HEARING IF WE COULD HEAR THAT ITEM PLEASE.
ITEM NUMBER THREE IS REQUESTING A FIVE WEEK CONTINUANCE TO THE SEPTEMBER 17TH MEETING LOCATED AT FIVE.
FIVE FIVE HISTORIC OLD US HIGHWAY 90.
ALRIGHT, IS THERE A MOTION MR. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE.
ITEM NUMBER THREE TO THE SEPTEMBER 17TH HEARING.
IS THERE A SECOND MR. CHAIR? I SECOND.
ALRIGHT, THE MOTION IS TO, UM, FOR A CONTINUANCE FOR ITEM NUMBER THREE TO THE SEPTEMBER 17TH MEETING.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WATSON WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HUEY.
COMMISSIONER BAR COMMISSIONER.
WE'LL SEE Y'ALL IN FIVE WEEKS.
ALRIGHT, MOVING ON TO OUR INDIVIDUAL HEARING.
ITEM NUMBER TWO IS FIRST ON THE LIST.
IF WE COULD HAVE STAFF'S REPORT PLEASE.
MY NAME IS SAMANTHA BEA, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER TWO IS LOCATED AT 6 0 8 SOUTH PARK BOULEVARD.
GOING FROM R FIVE RE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT TO IDZ THREE.
HIGH INTENSITY AND FILLED DEVELOPMENT ZONE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR EIGHT DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS STAYING
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THE SAME.THERE WERE 26 NOTICES SENT OUT.
ZERO IN FAVOR TO OPPOSED COLLINS GARDEN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED AND NO RESPONSE OUTSIDE 200 FEET.
THE CURRENT R FIVE CD IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED IDZ THREE HIGH INTENSITY INFILLED DEVELOPMENT ZONING WITH USES PERMITTED FOR EIGHT DWELLING UNITS IS NOT APPROPRIATE.
THE PROPOSED DENSITY DOES NOT ALIGN WITH THE SURROUNDING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PATTERN WHERE THE HIGHEST DENSITY WITHIN PROXIMITY IS TWO UNITS, WHICH IS ALREADY PERMITTED FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND AS I UNDERSTAND IT, AMEND THE REQUEST TO IDZ TWO.
MEDIUM INTENSITY INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS.
IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE.
ALSO DEAN VALLON, UH, 24 10 WEST COMMERCE.
WHEN UH, THE APPLICANT APPLIED FOR THIS, I TOOK IT OVER FROM HIM.
HE WAS UNDER IMPRESSION SINCE HE BOUGHT AN PLEX.
HE HAD AN PLEX AND IT TURNED OUT HE OWNED A DUPLEX THAT HAD EIGHT UNITS.
SO WHEN HE DID THE APPLICATION FOR AN EIGHT, I TOLD HIM, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO GET IT BECAUSE YOU OVER THE DENSITY.
SO I CONVINCED HIM TO GO DOWN TO A FOURPLEX APP AND AMEND OUR APPLICATION AND WITH IDZ THAT WAY AT LEAST WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS RECONSTRUCT THE WHOLE THING FROM AN PLEX TO A FOURPLEX, DO PERMITTING, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
SO DO YOU COMMISSIONER, OH WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.
FIRST, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? UH, NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
YOU DO? NO, NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
ALRIGHT, NOW WE GO TO COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE FOR QUESTIONS.
SORRY MR. FELLON, WHEN DID THE APPLICANT BUY THE PROPERTY? HE, UH, I WAS TOTALLY BOUGHT IN 2019.
UM, SO IN THE INTERVENING FIVE YEARS OR SO, UH, HAVE THERE BEEN CITATIONS? HAS THERE BEEN WHAT? ANY CITATIONS? ANY? AS FAR AS I KNOW, UH, THERE HAVEN'T BEEN ANY CITATIONS.
I MEAN, I JUST TOOK THIS OVER FROM HIS SECRETARY THAT SHE WAS LOST ON WHAT WAS HAPPENING AND, UH, TOLD HER, HEY, UH, YOU BOUGHT A DUPLEX, YOU DON'T HAVE AN APEX.
SO I SAID, UM, LET'S JUST, INSTEAD OF KEEPING THE DUPLEX APPLY FOR A FOURPLEX AND DO CONSTRUCTION.
SO THE OWNER CALLED ME JUST THIS MORNING AND SAID, IF I HAVE TO DO IT, THEN I'LL DO IT.
SO HE'S IN AGREEMENT ON THE FOURPLEX.
HAVE WE TALKED TO COLIN SCOTTON NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF A FOURPLEX GIVEN? NO.
NO FURTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? NONE.
ALRIGHT, BACK TO YOU COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE.
ALRIGHT, WELL I THOUGHT THIS WAS GONNA BE A QUICK CASE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
UM, BUT NOW, UM, I THINK THIS IS A MARKEDLY DIFFERENT, UH, PROPOSAL THAN AN IDZ THREE WITH EIGHT UNITS.
UM, I AM GOING TO MOVE FOR A CONTINUANCE UNTIL THE SEPTEMBER 17TH MEETING 'CAUSE I MAY NOT BE HERE FOR THE THIRD.
UH, AND TO GIVE YOU TIME TO TALK TO COLLINS GARDEN ABOUT YES SIR.
SO I MOVE, UH, TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO THE SEPTEMBER 17TH MEETING.
ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION TO CONTINUE.
ITEM FIVE OR I, MY GOSH, I'M GETTING NUMBERS ALL CONFUSED.
ITEM TWO IN DISTRICT FIVE TO THE SEPTEMBER 17TH MEETING BY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON.
DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS LOOKING LEFT.
COMMISSIONERS ON MY, MY RIGHT.
ALL RIGHT, MOTION IS FOR CONTINUANCE.
ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER FOUR I BELIEVE IS ON THE LIST.
CORRECT? WE'D HAVE STAFF'S REPORT.
MY NAME IS SAMANTHA BEA, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS LOCATED AT 28 76 NACODOCHES ROAD, GOING FROM MF 25 CD, LOW DENSITY MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR PROFESSIONAL OFFICE TO MF 25 CD, LOW DENSITY MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR PROFESSIONAL OFFICE WITH A MAJOR SITE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR AN INCREASE IN OVERALL BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGE AND IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE WITH ALL OVERLAY OVERLAYS STAYING THE SAME.
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NOTICES SENT OUT.TWO IN FAVOR, TWO OPPOSED NO RESPONSE FROM THE FORK FOREST, OAK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND NO RESPONSE OUTSIDE OF 200 FEET.
THE EXISTING MF 25 CD LOW DENSITY MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED MF 25 CD LOW DENSITY MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR PROFESSIONAL OFFICE WITH MAJOR SITE PLAN AMENDMENT TO INCREASE OVERALL BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGE AND IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE IS ALSO APPROPRIATE.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING AN ADDITIONAL 25 REPLACING AN EXISTING STRUCTURE WITH A LARGER STRUCTURE ADDING 2,900 SQUARE FEET.
STAFF FINDS THAT THE 5.801 ACRES OF PROPERTY CAN REASONABLY ACCOMMODATE THE ADDITIONAL PARKING AND BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGE WHILE KEEPING A RESIDENTIAL APPEARANCE TO COMPLIMENT THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ALRIGHT, IF WE CAN HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT PLEASE.
UH, WHEN THIS WAS DISCUSSED A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, UH, BRINGING UP A SITUATION ON, UH, REQUESTING A NEW EIGHT FOOT FENCE.
I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT DIDN'T COME TO MIND, WHICH I BROUGHT PICTURES OF.
THE, UH, FENCE LINE IS PRETTY DENSE WITH, UH, VEGETATION AND WE ARE WORKING RIGHT NOW WITH DIFFERENT FENCING COMPANIES ON DOING SOME SCREENING.
WE DO HAVE AN EXISTING SIX FOOT SIX FOOT FENCE, WHICH IS WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS REQUIRED.
UM, SO IF WE WERE TO TAKE THIS FENCE DOWN, PUT AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE, WE THERE IS, THERE'S A LOT OF VEGETATION THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE REMOVED, WHICH WOULD PROBABLY PUT US IN A DIFFERENT SITUATION.
SOME OF THE GROUP UNHAPPY WITH THAT.
IS, IS THAT THE END OF YOUR PRESENTATION? YES, THAT'S IT.
ALRIGHT, UH, COMMISSIONER WHITSETT TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS.
SO I GUESS FIRST COUPLE OF QUESTIONS PROBABLY FOR STAFF AND FOR YOU.
UH, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF BUILDINGS UP FRONT THAT LOOK LIKE TEMPORARY TYPE BUILDINGS.
THEY'RE ON BLOCKS, UH, THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR THREE YEARS OR SO.
THOSE ARE TEMPORARY BUILDINGS THAT WILL BE REMOVED AS SOON AS WE GET INTO THE OFFICES.
SO HOW LONG STAFF, HOW LONG DO THEY GET FOR TEMPORARY BUILDING USE ON A PROPERTY? I WAS RESEARCHING THIS ON ONLINE BEFORE.
UM, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE PERMITS FOR THE TEMPORARY BUILDINGS.
AND SO AS LONG AS THAT DOESN'T LAPSE, WHICH IT HASN'T, THEY THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE? YES.
UM, AND HOW BIG A BUILDING ARE THEY GONNA BUILD AND WHAT IS BEING REMOVED? I GUESS THE APPLICANT CAN SPEAK TO THAT BETTER, BUT WE DO HAVE THE SITE PLAN.
I BELIEVE WE DEMOED A 1300 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING AND ARE RE ARE, UH, REQUESTING TO COME BACK IN WITH 3,500 SQUARE FEET, 3000 PLUS ABOUT 3,200 SQUARE FEET.
HOW DO YOU USE THIS? OH, THERE IT IS.
SO, UH, THIS IS NACODOCHES STREET HERE AND THE, THAT'S AN EXISTING BUILDING THERE.
THE BUILDING WOULD BE RIGHT BACK HERE.
AND ONCE AGAIN, THERE WAS AN EXISTING BUILDING THERE AND IT WAS ABOUT, WAS IT 1300 SQUARE FEET? IT WAS ABOUT 1100, YEAH.
BASICALLY BESIDES TWO CAR GARAGE.
THE REASON WE'RE IN HERE IS KIND OF COMICAL.
UH, WHEN THIS WAS DONE AND THE CITY MOVED INTO THE NEW SALA SYSTEM, UH, WE KIND OF GOT SQUASHED IN THE MIDDLE OF A SITUATION WHERE WE HAD TO REAPPLY FOR A PERMIT.
AND IT'S CAUSED US TO GO INTO THIS REZONING, WHICH WE'RE HERE NOW, WE'RE OKAY DOING IT.
WE'RE JUST WANTING TO, UH, USE THE EXISTING FENCING AND PUT UP ANY SLATS BETWEEN NEIGHBORS OR ADD NEW VEGETATION BETWEEN US AND THE NEIGHBORS SO WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE DOWN EXISTING VEG VEGETATION.
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LAST TIME THE PEOPLE WHO CAME IN AND SPOKE, IT WAS MOSTLY, UH, THE LOTS KIND OF SURROUNDING THAT, THAT RIGHT THERE.IT IT WAS THIS NEIGHBOR RIGHT HERE? YES.
AND I THINK THE ADJACENT ONE WAS ALSO CONCERNED.
THERE WERE A COUPLE OF LOTS THERE, THERE WAS A NEIGHBOR BACK HERE THAT, UH, HAD A CONCERN.
WAS IT, WAS IT THAT ONE THERE HERE, PAUL? THERE WAS ONE NEIGHBOR CONCERN ABOUT THE LIGHTING.
SINCE THEN, WE'VE TAKEN DOWN THE SECURITY LIGHTING AND WE ARE AWARE THAT IF WE PUT ANY SECURITY LIGHTING, IT'LL BE BELOW.
IT'S WHERE IT DOESN'T SHINE ON, SHINE ON THE NEIGHBOR'S YARD.
MR. CONCERNS FOR SECURITY, SIR, SPEAKING IN THE MICROPHONE, IF YOU COULD GIVE US YOUR NAME AS WELL, PLEASE.
SO ARE THAT FENCE BACK THERE? THEY'RE ALL CHAIN LINK? YES.
UH, ARE THEY ALL I I SEE WHERE YOU'RE DENSELY BRUSHED AND I JUST BUILT A FENCE IN MY YARD.
I HAD TO DIG OUT LOTS OF TREES AND DO GROWING IN THE CHAIN LINK SO I KNOW WHAT, WHAT IT'LL DO BASICALLY WIPE OUT EVERYTHING.
UH, SO I DON'T WANT YOU TO HAVE TO WIPE THINGS OUT, BUT I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT LIGHTS AND THINGS, UH, SHINING IN, UH, FROM VEHICLES CONSTRUCTION.
UH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SLATS, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? LIKE THE GREEN SLATS THAT GO THROUGH THE CHAIN LINK.
AND WILL THAT BE ALL ALONG THAT AREA? ALONG THE WHOLE THING OR JUST PRIMARILY THOSE AREAS? WELL, WHAT WE, WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO FOCUS ON THE CONCERNS OF THIS NEIGHBOR HERE AND, AND IT GO, THIS IS VERY, VERY DENSE HERE.
SO COVER THE AREA FOR THAT NEIGHBOR WITH A CONCERN AND WE WOULD PLAN TO DO VEGETATION RE REVEGETATE THE OTHER NEIGHBORS, WHICH IS BASICALLY HERE AND HERE.
WE ACTUALLY OWN THIS PROPERTY OVER HERE AS WELL NOW.
SO YOU DON'T FEEL THAT SLATS ARE NEEDED ON THAT BACK CORNER BACK THERE FOR, UH, WITH VEGETATION WILL COVER IT.
I MEAN, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SMALL VEGETATION OR IT'LL GROW UP OR BIG ENOUGH TO PROVIDE SOME REAL BUFFER? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT VEGETATION.
SO WE HAVE THE PRIVACY BETWEEN THE TWO NEIGHBORS.
SO WE HAVE TO CLARIFY, WE'RE GONNA JUMP IN AND CLARIFY HERE BECAUSE YOU'RE ALREADY GETTING INTO THE WEEDS, SO TO SPEAK.
THE NATURE, HOWEVER, UM, BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF IT BEING A NEW BUILDING, A NEW DEVELOP, UH, THAT, THAT AUTOMATICALLY TRIGGERS THE SOLID SCREEN REQUIREMENT.
NOW HOW THEY GET TO THE SOLID SCREEN, IT, IT'S GOTTA BE SIX FEET.
IF THEY WANNA PUT MESH, UH, TO ON THE CHAIN LINK, THEY COULD DO THAT TO MITIGATE, TRYING TO DESTROY ANY OF THE TREES OR VEGETATION IN THE AREA.
BUT REGARDLESS, ANYWHERE THAT THEY ABUT THAT, OUR SIX, THE NP EIGHT, ANY KIND OF RESIDENTIAL, THEY ARE GOING TO RE BE REQUIRED BECAUSE OF THE NEW BUILDING TO HAVE A SIX FOOT SOLID SCREEN FENCE.
AND SO SOLID SCREEN IS DEFINED BY THEY CAN PUT SLATS AND THAT WILL, THERE IS A MESH MATERIAL THAT WE HAVE ALLOWED IN THE PAST TO BE USED TO ACCOMPLISH THAT.
I I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANY OTHER SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THEN.
UH, OTHER QUESTIONS, OTHER COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? OKAY.
NONE COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.
UM, I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
UH, DID YOU MEET WITH THE HOMEOWNERS? UH, BECAUSE ORIGINALLY THEIR REQUEST WAS FOR AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE, WHICH YOU WERE OKAY WITH.
AND SO THEY LEFT THE MEETING ASSUMING THAT THERE WAS GONNA BE AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE.
TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, UM, THAT'S THE REASON I'M HERE IS I THINK THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE SIX FOOT FENCE WAS NOT, UH, PRESENTED LAST TIME.
AND I THINK THE SITUATION ABOUT THE BRUSH WAS NOT PRESENTED.
UH, PAUL DID CALL ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS AND, AND, UH, I THEY ARE, THEY'RE KIND OF OPEN TO, THEY'RE OPEN IN THE AIR.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THEY DID NOT UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WAS A SIX FOOT FENCE IN THEIR BACKYARD ALREADY? THERE'S A FENCE IN THEIR YARD.
THERE'S AN ALLEYWAY BETWEEN US AND THEN OUR FENCE.
THEY, THEY'RE A NEIGHBOR THAT'S, UH, ACROSS THE ALLEY FROM US.
SO, SO, SO WHEN, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU WERE ORIGINALLY ASKING FOR A CONTINUANCE, WHAT WAS THE CONTINUANCE THEN FOR? I WASN'T HERE.
PAUL WAS HERE AND WITH THE ENGINEERS BECAUSE THIS STARTED TO GET IN OUR OPINION OUTTA HAND OF WANTING TO WELL, I MEAN, I MEAN, I MEAN THE
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CONTINUANCE FOR TODAY.'CAUSE OUR, 'CAUSE OUR ENGINEER IS OUT, UH, HE'S BEEN OUTTA THE COUNTRY FOR THE LAST WEEK AND A HALF.
I THINK HE GETS IN AT THE END OF THE WEEK.
UM, THOSE ARE ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.
YOU MEAN DID I MISS YOU? ASK QUESTION PLEASE.
UH, SO I BELIEVE LAST TIME WE DISCUSSED THIS, UM, THIS PROJECT, THE RESIDENT HAD AN ISSUE ABOUT WORKERS LOOKING INTO THEIR YARD.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHY THEY WANTED SOME KIND OF ELEVATED BARRIER BESIDES THE SIX FOOT FENCE.
AND THAT'S WHY THEY WERE ADVOCATING FOR AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE.
SO HOW ARE YOU GOING TO MITIGATE PEOPLE LOOKING INTO THEIR YARD WITH A EXISTING FENCE THAT APPARENTLY DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S CONSTRUCT ANY VIEW
AND WE, IT'S CERTAINLY BEEN RAISED TO OUR ATTENTION.
WE ARE A CONTRACTOR THAT, THAT, UH, DOES FEDERAL WORK AND HAVE BEEN HIGHLY REGULATED.
WE'VE STEPPED UP OUR PROGRAM TO WHERE, UH, WE SHOULDN'T HAVE THOSE ISSUES ANYMORE.
ONCE AGAIN, CONSTRUCTION IS TEMPORARY.
SHOULD I HAVE THE POINTER PLEASE? THE BUILDING THAT'S BEING BUILT IS RIGHT HERE.
THERE'S ABOUT 250 FEET SEPARATION.
THE TWO NEIGHBORS THAT COMPLAINED IS THIS LOT RIGHT HERE AND THAT LOT RIGHT THERE.
CONSTRUCTION HAS ALREADY BEEN ACCOMPLISHED ON THIS PROJECT, WHICH IS WHAT THEY WERE COMPLAINING ABOUT ORIGINALLY.
THAT HAS, MATTER OF FACT, THAT'S WHERE THE SECURITY LIGHTS THAT CAME INTO QUESTION, THAT'S WHERE THE, UH, ROOFING THAT WAS BEING DONE.
THAT'S WHERE ALL THE COMPLAINTS ORIGINATED FROM.
SO THE SEPARATION FROM THIS PROPERTY TO THAT PROPERTY, YOU HAVE ALL KINDS OF GROWTH ON THEIR PROPERTY WITH THIS HOUSE.
AND THAT LITTLE CUL-DE-SAC THERE THAT SEPARATES IT.
THEN YOU HAVE THAT NEIGHBOR AND YOU HAVE ACTUALLY, THERE'S TWO NEIGHBORS THERE.
THERE'S ONE, TWO, AND THEN THEY'RE THE THIRD AND THEN YOU HAVE THE NEIGHBOR THERE.
SO THERE'S QUITE QUITE SEPARATION BETWEEN THE PROJECT THAT, THAT WE'RE REZONING, REQUESTING REZONING AND THE ACTUAL LOCATION AND THE PROJECT THAT ALREADY HAS BEEN DONE.
DOES THAT, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? ALL RIGHT.
UH, COMMISSIONER, WAIT ONE ADDITIONAL, THAT ALLEY, IS IT OPEN AND USED BY THE CITY? SO IT'S EITHER PAVED OR SOME TYPE OF FORM? IT IS PAVED FORM.
AND THEN THE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO YOU ON THE ADOS ROAD IS AN OFFICE, IS THAT CORRECT OR IS IT A HOUSE STAFF? DO YOU KNOW? RIGHT AT THE BOTTOM, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A MIX OF, ARE YOU TALKING TO THE NORTH OR TO SOUTH HOUSE? TO THE SOUTH, I GUESS SORT OF THE SOUTH WEST.
UM, IT SHOWS, ACCORDING TO OUR STAFF REPORT, WE HAVE, UH, SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS TO THE SOUTH.
THAT'S A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING.
AND, UH, THERE'S A WOOD FENCE, UH, PARTIALLY UNTIL OUR UH, CONCRETE AND METAL WROUGHT IRON FENCE STARTS.
UH, WELL IT SOUNDS LIKE THE FENCING AND THE SOLID SCREEN IS GONNA BE SUBJECT TO Y'ALL'S APPROVAL IS MY UNDERSTANDING WITH THE SIX FOOT CORRECT.
AS CHRISTIE MENTIONED, BECAUSE OF THE NEW CONSTRUCTION FOR THAT STRUCTURE THERE, IT WOULD, UM, EFFECT MAKE THE, UH, SIX FOOT FENCE COME IN.
UM, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THAT SIX FOOT FENCE, SOLID GREEN FENCE.
SO, EXCUSE ME, THE, I'M SEEING ONE OF SOME OF THE PEOPLE REALLY, THEY DON'T ADJOIN YOU 'CAUSE THEY ARE SEPARATED BY AN ALLEY AND THEY HAVE THEIR OWN FENCING.
SO I GUESS IN REALITY IT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY.
UH, I THINK THE ONE HOUSE THAT YOU HAVE, UM, BACK THERE ON THE BACK THAT IS ACTUALLY YOU PHYSICALLY ADJOIN.
IF YOU COULD REALLY DENSE THAT UP, UM, BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THAT, UH, CHOICE OF THAT BUFFER BY THE ALLEY.
UM, AND Y'ALL HAVE A SHARED FENCE LINE, THE OTHERS DO NOT.
SO OTHERWISE I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANY OTHER, UH, COMMENTS.
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I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GO AHEAD WITH THIS AND THE CITY'S GONNA BE RESPONSIBLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SOLID SCREEN FENCING IS WHAT IT SHOULD BE ALONG THE WHERE NECESSARY.AND Y'ALL ARE GONNA ADD BUFFERING WITH, UH, PLANTS.
THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED.
THERE'S A MOTION TO, UH, UH, FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER WHITSETT WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER REYES.
UH, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS LOOKING LEFT.
UM, NOW ON THIS OR STAFF SHOULD I SAY, AND THIS, ARE THEY JUST ADDING THE CD TO THIS, THAT WHAT THEY'RE DOING, JUST THE CD IS ALREADY EXISTING, BUT IT'S CONSIDERED A MAJOR SITE PLAN AMENDMENT SINCE THEY'RE INCREASING THE SIZE OF THE ONE STRUCTURE AT THE BOTTOM CORNER THERE, AND THEN THEY'RE ADDING THE PARKING UP TO THE NORTH.
AND SO THAT IT, UM, REQUIRES PUBLIC COMMENT OR PUBLIC REVIEW.
LIKE THIS IS, SO THE CD IS ALREADY EXISTING AND IN THE CASE THAT HAPPENED TWO WEEKS AGO, HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS CASE.
AND THIS, AS FAR AS THE NEIGHBORS THAT CAME IN, THIS IS, YES, THIS IS THE SAME CASE AS TWO WEEKS AGO.
AND THEY'RE NOT CHANGING FROM AN EIGHT FOOT TO A SIX FOOT.
THEY'RE JUST REQUIRING, I GUESS WHATEVER CHANGED AND THE CITY GO BACK AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE COMPLYING TO CORRECT WHATEVER.
UH, DISCUSSION COMMISSION ON MY LEFT.
UM, I WON'T BE SUPPORTING THIS BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT THE, THE NEIGHBORS WHEN THEY LEFT, THEY WERE UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WAS GONNA BE AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE.
UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS, UNFORTUNATELY, I UNDERSTAND THE IDEA OF, UH, PUTTING SLATS IN A CHAIN LINK FENCE MAY OR MAY NOT COMPLY.
UM, BUT I DON'T THINK IT, IT IS, IT MEETS THE SPIRIT OF WHAT THEY WERE UNDERSTANDING TO BE THE, UH, TO BE THERE, UH, WHAT THE AGREEMENT WAS MADE, THE INFORMAL AGREEMENT.
SO, UM, AT THIS TIME I WON'T BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION, BUT RIGHT NOW THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL.
IS THERE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER? MOTION TO RECONSIDER.
MOTION TO RECONSIDER BY COMMISSIONER BUSANTE.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
COMMISSIONER ORTIZ WITH A SECOND.
ALRIGHT, SO THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR AN ALTERNATIVE MOTION.
UM, JUST A CLARIFICATION, IF, IF NO MOTION IS MADE, DOES THAT MEAN IT'S, WELL THIS IS THE SECOND TIME WE'VE HEARD THIS, SO WE WOULD NEED A MOTION.
NO, IT, THEY IF UH, IF THE MOTION STILL FAILS AND THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD, UM, IT JUST MOVES FORWARD AS A DENIAL TO COUNSEL.
IS THERE AN ALTERNATIVE MOTION MOVE TO CONTINUE THIS CASE TO THE SEPTEMBER 3RD MEETING? TO GIVE THE APPLICANT AN OPPORTUNITY TO REACH OUT TO THE NEIGHBORS AND LET THEM KNOW WHAT CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE OR, OR ARE BEING PROPOSED RATHER TO THE PREVIOUS AGREEMENT.
THERE IS A MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE TO THE SEPTEMBER 3RD MEETING BY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON.
ALL RIGHT, WELL WE'LL SEE YOU IN ANOTHER THREE WEEKS.
UM, MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 14.
I BELIEVE IF WE COULD HAVE STAFF'S REPORT.
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RATANA ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.ITEM NUMBER 14 IS LOCATED AT 1 5 9 CASTROVILLE ROAD GOING FROM R FOUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY TO C TWO AND A COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC CELLS.
THERE WERE 43 NOTICES SENT OUT.
KEYSTONE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND SAN ANTONIO DISTRICT ONE RESIDENT ASSOCIATION GAVE NO RESPONSE AND NO RESPONSE OUTSIDE 200 FEET.
THE CURRENT R FOUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED C TWO AND A COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT IS NOT AS IT ABUTS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTH AND EAST STAFF RECOMMENDS LOWERING THE PROPOSED ZONING TO C ONE LIGHT COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO LIMIT THE SIZE OF BUILDING AND COMMERCIAL USES FOR MORE APPROPRIATE BUSINESSES TO SERVICE THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE PROPERTY FRONTS A SECONDARY ARTERIAL WHICH CAN ADEQUATELY ACCOMMODATE PARKING AND INGRESS EGRESS.
THE APPLICANT'S HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT PLEASE.
HELLO, MY NAME IS RICHARD SANCHEZ.
UM, I'M APPLYING FOR A C TWO NA AND UM, I'M GONNA OPEN THE DOG GROOMING BUSINESS IS WHAT MY ORIGINAL PLAN IS.
UM, I ASK FOR THE C TWO 'CAUSE MY FALLBACK IS DOING A LIGHT MOTORCYCLE MECHANIC JUST DOING LIKE A LIGHT LUBE AND OIL JUST IN CASE ALL FAILS I HAVE SOMETHING TO FALL BACK ONTO.
AND UH, WITH THE C ONE ZONING IT WILL RESTRICT THAT FROM BEING MY FALLBACK.
UH, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? WE DO.
WE HAVE MR. UH, RUSSELL LAN SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS.
RUSSELL DEAN LAN PRESIDENT PROSPECT HILL, WHEN THE GENTLEMAN CALLED ME ABOUT THE HAIR, THE UM, NOT HAIR SALON, UM, DOG GROOMING.
UH, HE ALSO MENTIONED THAT HE WANTED TO C TWO JUST IN CASE HIM AND HIS GIRLFRIEND DOESN'T WORK OUT AS FAR AS DOG GROOVING.
HE WANNA BE ABLE TO FALL BACK ON THE SECOND BUSINESS THAT HE DOES IS, IS UH, OPERATING ON MOTORCYCLES.
SO I TOLD HIM DOING A C ONE WOULDN'T GET YOU TO DO THAT BUT KEEPING THE C TWO, UH, THAT WOULD MEAN HE COULD HAVE SOMETHING TO FALL ON.
WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT AS FAR AS PROSPECT HILL.
DO YOU WANT A CHANCE TO ADD ON FOR THE APPLICANT OR REBUT
UH, AND THAT WAS THE EXTENT OF PUBLIC COMMENT.
UH, TO YOU COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE FOR QUESTIONS.
UH, TO STAFF I THINK INITIALLY.
SO THE TC TWO DOES ALLOW FOR, UH, AUTO, UH, OIL AND LUBE EFFECTIVELY, RIGHT? CORRECT.
AND THERE'S NO WAY TO LIMIT THAT TO MOTORCYCLES IS THERE IF YOU WANT WITH A C ONE CD.
CD BUT THEN HE WOULD HAVE TO UM, HAVE A SITE PLAN.
SO ONE OF MY CONCERNS AND ONE OF THE CONCERNS I THINK FOR THE DISTRICT IN GENERAL IS THAT IF WE GO TO A C TWO OUTRIGHT, UM, WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY TALKING ABOUT MOTORCYCLES LIMITED TO THAT.
WE'D BE TALKING ABOUT CARS AND WE HAVE A, UH, WHAT A TYPE TWO ARTERIAL HERE.
IS THAT CORRECT? IS THAT WHAT I HEARD IN THE REPORT? UM, AND YOU KNOW, A SIMILARLY BUSY CROSS STREET, NOT QUITE A TYPE TWO ARTERIAL.
UM, AND IF YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT CARS THEN WE'RE PROBABLY TALKING ABOUT CARS GETTING PARKED ON THE CROSS STREET THERE, NOT CASTROVILLE ROAD.
UM, SO YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW I'M LEANING TOWARDS STAFF'S ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION.
WHAT STAFF HAS TOLD ME HOWEVER, AND THAT I'D BE WILLING TO ENTERTAIN IS A C ONE, CD FOUR MOTORCYCLE LUBE.
WHAT THAT WOULD REQUIRE TO LIMIT IT TO MOTORCYCLE LUBE.
IT WOULD BE THE KIND OF VEHICLE, ANY KIND OF VEHICLE.
OKAY, WELL THAT DOESN'T WORK FOR ME THEN.
USE IN THE TABLE IS LIKE LUBE.
UM, IS, AND SO THEN THAT WOULD BE THE, THE STATED USE.
AND SO, SO THAT WOULD PERTAIN TO ANY TYPE, CORRECT.
AND I CAN'T, I CAN'T LIMIT IT WITHIN THAT CATEGORY.
WELL, UM, YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY MR. SANCHEZ, HERE'S MY PROBLEM.
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OF A TRADITIONAL LIGHT COMMERCIAL WHETHER NEIGHBORHOOD OR C ONE CORNER HERE AT 21ST AND CASTROVILLE ROAD.UH, WE HAVE EXISTING COMMERCIAL USES, UH, FOR A COUPLE OF PINATA AND FLOWER SHOPS.
UM, AND THEN THE REMAINDER OF IT, OF THIS SORT OF STRETCH OF CASTROVILLE ROAD IS COMMERCIAL ZONED, BUT IS GENERALLY RESIDENTIAL IN USE.
UM, BECAUSE OF THE PARKING CONCERNS FOR A POTENTIAL LUBE SHOP.
I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS ABOUT GIVING YOU A C TWO OR EVEN A C ONE CD FOR THE LUBE OR OIL USAGE.
UM, I WOULD RECOMMEND AT THIS POINT I'LL GIVE YOU THE OPTION.
UH, I CAN MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF THE STAFF'S ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OR YOU CAN TAKE A CONTINUANCE FOR FOUR WEEKS AND YOU AND I CAN TALK ABOUT IT, SEE WHAT WE CAN FIGURE OUT TO TRY TO ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS.
I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR A BACKUP.
BUT THE CONCERN IS AS ALWAYS IN ZONING, BUT IT, IT WILL, IT WILL RUN WITH THE LAND.
AND SO YOU USE, I CAN'T LIMIT TO MOTORCYCLES, WHICH I'D MORE THAN BE MORE THAN WILLING TO DO.
DO YOU WANT THE APPROVAL FOR THE C ONE OR YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT SOME MORE AND COME BACK IN A MONTH? YEAH, I PROBABLY WANNA JUST TALK ABOUT IT SOME MORE AND COME BACK IN THE MONTH.
IN THAT CASE, UH, MR. CHAIR, I MOVE, IT'S FOUR WEEKS.
HOW I, I WILL WITHDRAW ALL OF THOSE COMMENTS.
I MOVE FOR A CONTINUANCE TO SEPTEMBER 17TH SECOND.
THERE IS A MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE UNTIL THE UH, SEPTEMBER 17TH MEETING BY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON.
UH, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER ON MY LEFT.
SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER'S ON MY RIGHT.
UH, COMMISSIONER OSA, JUST A QUICK QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
DO, DO YOU CURRENTLY LIVE ON THE PROPERTY? NO, I DON'T.
I LIVE ON UH, 1 7 8 BAYVILLE DRIVE.
AND WHAT CURRENTLY, WHAT IS THE PROPERTY? UM, THE PROPERTY HASN'T BEEN USED IN, MY AUNT'S BEEN REAL SICK, SO SHE HASN'T RENTED THE BUILDING FOR LIKE THE LAST THREE YEARS.
AND DURING THOSE THREE YEARS THEY DID A REZONING OF THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT WAS A C3 NA BEFORE AND THEN THEY CAME IN AND SWITCHED IT TO AN R FOUR.
WHEN I ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY FOR HER, I APPLIED FOR A C OF O AND THEY TOLD ME, OH, THIS IS NO LONGER A COMMERCIAL BUILDING.
AS OF NOVEMBER 23, THEY SAID IT'S A RESIDENTIAL NOW THEY SAID THEY SHOULD HAVE NOTIFIED YOUR AUNT.
SHE COULD HAVE CAME UP HERE AND CONTESTED AGAINST IT.
BUT MY AUNT, SHE'S 87 YEARS OLD, SHE'S AN OLD LADY, SHE'S SICK.
UM, SO SHE WASN'T ABLE TO REPRESENT HERSELF FOR THAT.
SO IT'S A RESIDENTIAL BUILDING.
IT HAS NO RESTROOM, NO KITCHEN, NO NOTHING.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT, UH, ROLL CALL VOTE MOTION IS FOR A CONTINUANCE.
UH, WE ARE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 17.
IF WE COULD HAVE STAFF'S REPORT PLEASE.
MY NAME IS SAMANTHA BENAVIDEZ, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER 17 IS LOCATED AT 6 4 0 7 WEST COMMERCE STREET.
GOING FROM C TWO MLOD OR C TWO I APOLOGIZE.
COMMERCIAL, UH, DISTRICT TO IDZ TWO.
UH, INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR AUTO AND LIGHT TRUCK REPAIR AND WRECKER SERVICE WITH ALL OVERLAYS STAYING THE SAME.
THERE WERE 26 NOTICES SENT OUT.
ONE IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED NO RESPONSE FROM LOS ENTENTES NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR OUTSIDE OF 200 FEET.
THE PROPOSED USE IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
SURROUNDING ZONING DESIGNATIONS INCLUDE C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT R FIVE, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT AND C3 AND A GENERAL COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT.
THE CURRENT C TWO AND A COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED ID C TWO MEDIUM INTENSITY INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR AUTO AND LIGHT TRUCK REPAIR AND WRECKER
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SERVICE IS NOT APPROPRIATE.THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ADJACENT TO ESTABLISHED SINGLE FAMILY USE WHILE AUTO REPAIR USES ARE IN THE AREA AND ABUT OTHER COMMERCIAL ZONE PROPERTIES.
INDUSTRIAL USES SUCH AS A WRECKER SERVICE WOULD BE OUT OF CHARACTER AND NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE ABUTTING RESIDENTIAL USE.
STAFF FINDS THE EXISTING C TWO AND A COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT WOULD PERMIT SUITABLE USES THAT WOULD BETTER SERVICE THE AREA STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HEAR FROM THE REPRESENTATIVE PLEASE.
I LIVE AT 56 18 CUCUMBER PLACE.
UH, THE USE OF THIS PROPERTY WILL BE MOSTLY LINE MECHANIC WORK, IF ANYTHING.
MOSTLY MY BROTHER-IN-LAW DOES, UH, MECHANIC WORK AS FAR AS LIGHT ELECTRICAL WORK ON VEHICLES THAT HAVE PROBLEMS WITH COMPUTERS.
UM, THE OTHER WORK HE DOES IS REPOS FOR BANKS, FOR SMALL BUSINESSES THAT CARRY AUTOS, AUTO DEALERSHIPS IN THE AREA.
THE CARS WOULD BE COMING IN AND OUT.
IT WOULDN'T BE A STORAGE UNIT FOR TEMPORARY, IT IS JUST TEMPORARY ONE OR TWO DAYS WHILE THE BANK PICKS HIM UP OR THE DEALER PICKS HIM UP.
IT'S NOT GONNA BE A LONG TERM STORAGE.
HE DOES SOME WORK ON SOME CARS, HIS CARS OR CLIENTS THAT HE HAS ALREADY STANDING.
UM, AS FAR AS THE NOISE GOES, WE'RE DIRECTLY ABOVE
SIR, CAN YOU GET CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE? IT'S HARD TO HEAR YOU.
WE'RE DIRECTLY ABOVE OR ON THE SAME PATH AS LACKLAND AIR FORCE BASE.
I LIVE RIGHT ACROSS FROM KELLY, SO I DON'T THINK THAT BY COMING IN AND OUT WITH A TOW TRUCK IT'S GONNA MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE AS FAR AS THE AIRPLANES TAKE OFF.
I KNOW AT NIGHT WHEN THEY TAKE OFF, I CAN'T EVEN HEAR MYSELF THINK AS FAR AS ONE MORE LIGHT IN THE PROPERTY.
I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT WE'RE GONNA KEEP THE LIGHTING DOWN OR AS FAR AS HAVING MOTION SENSOR LIGHTS IN THE PROPERTY AND WITH CAMERA USES FOR SURVEILLANCE, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ANY HAZARD TO ANYBODY THAT'S GONNA BE IN THE AREA.
'CAUSE THERE'S GONNA BE CLIENTS THAT COME TO PICK UP THEIR CARS OR BANKS THAT COME AND GET THEIR, YOU KNOW, TAKE THEIR VEHICLES BACK.
AS FAR AS THIS GOES, I THINK IT LIMITS THE HAZARDS TO ANY PEOPLE 'CAUSE THERE'S NOT GONNA BE PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT.
ANY QUESTIONS WE WILL SEE? UM, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? NO PUBLIC COMMENT? NO.
UH, COMMISSIONER BUS DEANTE TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS.
UM, SO MR. CRUZ, YOU HAVE, IS IT MR. CRUZ OR DE LA CRUZ.
I I DIDN'T HEAR THE FIRST PART.
UM, ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SITE PLAN RIGHT NOW ON, ON THE SCREEN.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, THE, THE USE THAT'S PROPOSED IS, UH, AUTO REPAIR, RIGHT? RIGHT.
WHERE IS THAT REPAIR GONNA GO? 'CAUSE I'M LOOKING AT THE SITE PLAN AND I SEE, I SEE OFFICE SPACE AND I SEE A SORT OF A CARPORT OR SHED.
IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE THE CARPORT ON YOUR TOP, TOP LEFT CORNER.
THERE'S GONNA BE A, A CAN A CONTAINER FOR THE STORAGE AND THERE'S GONNA BE A CONCRETE PAD LAID THERE.
OKAY, SO THERE WOULD BE NO SORT OF BUILDING? NO.
IT'S GONNA BE JUST A CARPORT REPAIR TO OCCUR? NO.
UM, NOW YOU SAY THAT THE STORAGE AND LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS HERE, IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE 19 CARS, POSSIBLY 21 SPOTS FOR CARS, CARS TO BE PARKED.
I'M GONNA TRY TO AVOID THE USE OF THE WORD STORAGE FOR RIGHT NOW.
UM, BUT RIGHT NOW YOU'RE REPRESENTING APPROXIMATELY 21 PARKING SPOTS FOR CARS IN THIS SITE PLAN.
IS THAT RIGHT? I THINK IF YOU, IF YOU COUNT 'EM UP, I GET 19 AND THEN IT LOOKS LIKE YOU CAN PROBABLY FIT TWO MORE IN THERE.
NOW AND THERE'LL BE LIKE FOUR, MAYBE THREE OR FOUR IN FRONT OF THE OFFICE BUILDING.
BUT, BUT AS FAR AS SORT OF THE CARS, WHETHER THEY'RE REPOSSESSED OR THEY'RE BEING WORKED ON FOR THE COMPUTER REPAIRS, THOSE WOULD BE THERE ALONG ACME, IS THAT CORRECT? I MEAN, IT IS, IT'S SHOWN AS A PARKING WHERE IT BE POTENTIALLY STILL BEING, THEY'LL BE WAITING FOR PARTS IF THAT, IF ANY.
BUT MOST OF THE TIME IT'S, YOU ORDER THE PARTS YOU BRING YOUR CAR IN OR DIAGNOSE IT AND BRING IT BACK.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO STORE ANYBODY'S VEHICLE ON THE PROPERTY.
BUT, BUT THERE WOULD BE, THERE WOULD BE POTENTIALLY WRECKERS COMING IN AND BRINGING, FOR EXAMPLE, THE, THE CARS THAT WERE REPOSSESSED, RIGHT? YES SIR.
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BE THERE MAYBE A DAY OR TWO AS FAR AS THE BANK OR DEPENDING WHERE THE BANK IS AT OR WHO, WHO IS THE DEALERSHIP, WHICH MOSTLY IS DONE OVERNIGHT.THEY COME IN DOING THE PAPERWORK AND THEY GET SENT BACK OUT.
UM, SO STAFF WERE KIND OF AT THE SAME SITUATION WE WERE AT WITH THE CASTROVILLE ROAD CASE.
UH, IS THERE A WAY TO LIMIT THE REPAIRS FOR THIS PROPERTY IF THE USE IN THE I DZ TWO IS, UH, AUTO AND LIGHT TRUCK REPAIR? NO, I WAS ASKING KELLY THAT VERY SAME QUESTION.
I WAS LIKE, WHY DIDN'T WE GO WITH A CD ON THIS OR SOMETHING? UM, AND IT'S BECAUSE HE NEEDS THE TWO TYPES AND AS YOU KNOW, A CD ONLY GETS YOU ONE TYPE MM-HMM.
AND SO HE NEEDS NOT ONLY THE AUTO AND LIGHT TRUCK REPAIR, BUT HE ALSO NEEDS THE WRECKER SERVICE PORTION OF IT.
AND BECAUSE OF THAT, UM, THE RECOMMENDED, YOU KNOW, ZONING GOING FORWARD IN ORDER FOR HIM TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT HE WOULD LIKE TO ACCOMPLISH WAS WE TOLD HIM IDZ TWO FOR THOSE TWO THINGS.
AND RIGHT NOW THE CURRENT ZONING IS C TWO AND A? CORRECT.
UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME, MR. CHAIR.
FELLOW COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.
SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.
SO I GUESS BACK TO YOU REALLY QUICK.
OKAY, SO THIS IS A DIFFICULT CASE, UM, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY I'M GOING TO MOVE FOR DENIAL.
UM, AND THE REASON ARE A NUMBER ONE, OF COURSE IS THE ABUTTING RESIDENTIAL USE THAT STAFF MENTIONED IN THEIR REPORT.
TWO IS, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE APPLICANT DOES NOT INTEND TO, DOES NOT PLAN TO, DOES NOT EXPECT THAT, UH, CARS WOULD BE STORED HERE.
BUT BOY, IF WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, 21 POTENTIAL SPOTS, I'M AFRAID THAT THERE'S JUST NO GUARANTEE THAT THIS WON'T END UP LOOKING AN AWFUL LOT LIKE AN IMPOUND LOT, UH, RIGHT UP NEXT TO INDUSTRIAL.
I HAVE FURTHER CONCERN, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, UH, I'M TAKING YOU AT YOUR WORD, I BELIEVE YOU, I, BUT, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE THE USE AVAILABLE FOR AUTO AND LIGHT TRUCK REPAIR, UH, THAT WE'LL EVENTUALLY SEE THAT USE.
IF IT'S NOT YOU, MAYBE YOU SELL THE PROPERTY AND THE ZONING RUNS WITH THE LAND, AS WE ALWAYS SAY.
AND SO AS A RESULT, YOU KNOW, HAVING SORT OF AN OPEN SHED WHERE THIS USE IS ALLOWED IS SOMETHING I I DO NOT THINK IS APPROPRIATE AT THIS TIME.
SO, AND FINALLY, AND, AND THIS PROBABLY IS MORE TO STAFF, I AM GOING TO BE HIGHLY SKEPTICAL AT ANY POINT WHEN IDZ IS USED FOR AN AUTO AND LIGHT TRUCK REPAIR, UM, THAT, THAT USAGE IS GONNA MAKE ME VERY NERVOUS GIVEN THE FLEXIBILITY THAT IDZ ALLOWS FOR.
UM, NOT SAYING IT WON'T EVER HAPPEN, JUST SAYING IT'S IT'S GONNA PUT UP MY RADAR A LITTLE BIT.
UH, SO FOR ALL OF THOSE REASONS, I'M GONNA MOVE FOR DENIAL.
I KNOW THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO RUN A BUSINESS, UM, AND I APPRECIATE THOSE CONCERNS, BUT IN THIS CASE, I JUST THINK THIS ISN'T THE RIGHT PROPERTY.
UH, SO AT THIS TIME, MR. CHAIR, I MOVE FOR DENIAL.
THE MOTION IS, UH, THERE IS A MOTION FOR DENIAL BY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WHITSETT.
DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER'S ON MY LEFT.
COMMISSIONER'S ON MY RIGHT? NONE.
UM, I WILL SUPPORT YOUR MOTION BECAUSE I, I I BELIEVE YOU OUTLINED A A PARTICULARLY GOOD CASE ON, ON, WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT WHAT COULD HAPPEN IF, IF THE PROPERTY IS SOLD IN ABOUT THREE, FIVE YEARS OR SOMETHING.
SO I'LL BE SUPPORTING YOUR MOTION.
UM, WE ARE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 18.
WE HAVE STAFF'S REPORT PLEASE.
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GOOD AFTERNOON.MY NAME IS BRONTE FRERE, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
UH, ITEM NUMBER 18 IS LOCATED AT 4 35 PRECIOUS DRIVE GOING FROM R FIVE TO R FIVE S WITH A SPECIFIC USE FOR CHILDCARE FACILITY FOR SEVEN TO 12 CHILDREN.
THERE WERE 37 NOTICES SENT OUT.
FOUR IN FAVOR OUTSIDE OF 200 FEET AND THERE IS NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN THE 200 FEET.
STAFF DOES FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
THE PROPOSED USE IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA AS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS.
THE EXISTING R FIVE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THEIR PROPOSED R FIVE S WITH A SPECIFIC USE FOR CHILDCARE FACILITY SEVEN TO 12 CHILDREN IS NOT APPROPRIATE.
ALTHOUGH THERE ARE REZONING REQUESTS TO R FIVE S WILL MAINTAIN THE RESIDENTIAL BASED ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS CHARACTERISTIC OF THE SURROUNDING AREA AND KEEPS THE LAND USE PATTERN CONSISTENT.
THE SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR THE PROPOSED USE OF CHILDCARE FACILITY FOR SEVEN TO 12 CHILDREN IS MORE COMMERCIAL IN NATURE AND CONSTITUTES A RESIDENTIAL ENCROACHMENT.
THE APPLICANT IS ALLOWED TO HAVE UP TO SIX CHILDREN WITHOUT REZONING.
ALLOWANCE OF ADDITIONAL CHILDREN COULD CREATE ISSUES WITH TRAFFIC SUCH AS PICKUP AND DROP OFF PARKING AND EMPLOYEE PARKING.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IF WE COULD HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT PLEASE.
UH, I'LL WAIT MY PRESENTATION.
SO, UM, I AM, AM CURRENTLY THE CEO OF LEARNING AND LOVE ACADEMY.
I STARTED A, UM, I STARTED BY DOING AN ONLINE PRESCHOOL BUSINESS AND THEN, UM, AFTER I HAD MY SON, I REDIRECTED MY ATTENTION TOWARDS, UM, STARTING A CHILD CHILDCARE BUSINESS.
THE CHILDCARE BUSINESS HASN'T STARTED YET, SO, UM, AT THE MOMENT WE JUST HAVE THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE HOME THAT HAS BEEN, UM, KIND OF LIKE DECORATED AND ORGANIZED SO THAT WE CAN APPLY FOR A PERMIT.
UM, WE WOULD LIKE SEVEN TO 12, BUT OF COURSE IF THAT DOESN'T WORK OUT WE'LL TO, UH, UP TO SIX.
SO, UM, I DID WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BUSINESS AND THE MISSION AT LEARN AND LOVE ACADEMY.
WE BELIEVE THAT CHILDREN THRIVE WHEN CARETAKERS VALUE THEIR INDIVIDUAL GIFTS WHILE ALSO PROVIDING SUPPORT THAT PROMOTES GROWTH SOCIALLY AND ACADEMICALLY.
WE ARE FOCUSED ON BUILDING A COMMUNITY OF SUPPORTIVE RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN, BETWEEN OUR EMPLOYEES, STUDENTS AND CUSTOMERS.
WE WANT TO PROVIDE QUALITY CARE THAT EXEMPLIFIES EXCELLENCE TO THE COMMUNITY AT AN AFFORDABLE RATE.
WE ALSO WANT TO PROVIDE FLEXIBILITY TO PARENTS WHO DON'T NEED OR CAN'T AFFORD THE COMMON CONTRACTS OF 10 HOURS A DAY FOR FIVE DAYS A WEEK.
UM, MY BACKGROUND IS I'VE HAD, UM, SEVEN YEARS OF TEACHING, FOUR YEARS OF PRESCHOOL.
UM, BUT I HAD MY FIRST SON AND, UM, I'D LIKE TO FIND A WAY TO BE PRESENT IN HIS LIFE WHILE ALSO PROVIDING AN INCOME BECAUSE, UM, THE FAMILIES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MEET THE NEEDS FOR I MYSELF, UM, HAVE A FAMILY THAT NEEDS ADDITIONAL INCOME, I CANNOT JUST BE A STAY AT HOME MOM.
OKAY? SO THIS IS WHAT OUR BUDGET WOULD LOOK LIKE IN THE BEST POSSIBLE CASE SCENARIO.
UM, IF I MYSELF COULD ONLY WORK 40 HOURS A WEEK, THAT WOULD BE AMAZING, AND THAT'S THE SALARY THAT I WOULD LIKE TO START WITH.
I WOULD LIKE A FULL-TIME ASSISTANT AND A SUBSTITUTE CAREGIVER THAT WOULD TAKE OVER WHENEVER I'M NOT PRESENT.
SO WITH THE CAPACITY BEING SIX CHILDREN, UM, AT ABOUT $750 A MONTH, THAT WOULD BE ABOUT 54,000 A YEAR.
SO THE IDEAL SITUATION OF ME NOT HAVING TO WORK 60 HOURS OR MORE A WEEK, I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN THAT WITH ONLY SIX CHILDREN.
SO THAT IS WHY I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE
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THE 12 CHILDREN CAPACITY, BUT ONE CHILD WOULD BE MINE.SO THERE WOULD BE NO BACK AND FORTH WITH THAT.
AND THEN THIS IS OUR BUSINESS BUDGET, UM, TO SUPPLY THE EQUIPMENT AND THINGS FOR THE DAYCARE.
WE'VE ALREADY USED OUR OWN PERSONAL FUNDS, BUT AS YOU SEE, THERE ARE OTHER EXPENSES THAT ARE VERY COSTLY.
THE HOME RENT, UM, THE ELECTRICAL COST, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT GOES INTO A BUSINESS.
AND SO THAT IS, IF WE'RE GIVING QUALITY SERVICE LIKE WE PLAN TO, THEN IT WOULD COST ABOUT THAT MUCH A YEAR.
SO I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE CITY'S STRATEGIC PLAN, UM, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE OUR BUSINESS IS, UM, OUR BUSINESS MODEL COINCIDES WITH WHAT THE CITY IS TRYING TO DO IN THEIR PROSPECTS FOR GROWTH.
UM, JEC GOAL TWO IS TRADITIONAL AND TARGETED GROWTH INDUSTRIES SUPPORTING SAN ANTONIO'S DIVERSIFIED ECONOMY AND PROVIDE A WIDE RANGE OF JOB OPPORTUNITIES.
I WOULD LIKE TO EMPLOY PEOPLE AND PROVIDE JOB OPPORTUNITIES TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND THERE ARE DOWN THE ROAD MANY FACTORIES THAT, UM, IN THE OLD KELLY AIR FORCE BASE THAT HAVE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE WORKING THERE AT DIFFERENT HOURS, SOMETIMES LATE TILL FIVE IN THE, OR STARTING AT FIVE IN THE MORNING.
AND DAYCARES, MANY DAYCARES DON'T OPEN AT THAT TIME.
IT'S LIKE SIX 30 TO SEVEN, MAYBE THE LATEST.
AND OUR DAYCARE WOULD BE MORE FLEXIBLE TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE MAJORITY IN OUR COMMUNITY, UM, OUTSIDE OF THOSE REGULAR DAYCARE HOURS.
SO JOBS AND COMPETITIVENESS, J-E-J-E-C 12 IS AN INDICATOR OF GROWTH IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN.
JEC 12 IS THE NUMBER OF MINORITY MYSELF, WOMEN AND EMERGING SMALL BUSINESSES.
SO THE CITY IS TRYING TO, THEY SAY THAT THIS IS THEIR GOAL, THEN WHY SHOULD I NOT BE ABLE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE, UH, THIS BUSINESS AND EMPOWER THE CITY AND THE THINGS THAT WE NEED.
UM, J-E-C-J-C-P 19 IDENTIFY WAYS TO REDUCE BARRIERS TO ENTRY FOR NEW BUSINESSES.
UM, WHEN I WENT TO THE ORIENTATION AT HHSC FOR, UM, CHILDCARE LICENSING AT A HOME, UM, I GOT TO TALK WITH PEOPLE AFTER THE ORIENTATION.
AND SO MANY OF US WERE FRUSTRATED WITH THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO GET HOME, UH, CHILDCARE LICENSING BECAUSE IT WAS LIKE WE WERE GOING AROUND IN CIRCLES, YOU KNOW, UM, WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD AND THE PLAN IS NOT REALLY SET OUT CLEARLY EVEN BY HHSC.
UM, WHEN I CALLED THE CITY TO FIND OUT IF I NEEDED A PERMIT OR NOT, DIDN'T NEED A PERMIT, I WENT IN CIRCLES OVER AND OVER.
AND IT'S LIKE, THIS IS SUCH A HUGE NEED FOR OUR COMMUNITY, THE WHOLE ENTIRE CITY.
ESPECIALLY IF OUR GROWTH IS PLANNED TO BE 1 MILLION NEW RESIDENTS, WE NEED CHILDCARE FOR THEM.
SO EVEN IF I DON'T, EVEN IF I GET A DENIAL TODAY, AT LEAST IF YOU GUYS COULD HEAR ME OUT AND LIKE MAKE A WAY THAT WE COULD MAKE THIS AN EASIER PROCESS AND MORE POSSIBLE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING IN THE BUSINESS BE MORE EDUCATED IN THIS SO THAT THERE CAN BE THIS GROWTH THAT'S NEEDED, THEN YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T DONE IN VAIN.
OH, OH, IS MY TIME UP? UH, GO AHEAD,
I DIDN'T KNOW HOW, UH, WHY WE WANT TO REZONE FOR CAPACITY OF, UM, SEVEN TO 12 CHILDREN.
WE WANT TO PROVIDE FREE CHILDCARE TO MOTHERS EMPLOYED AT OUR CHILDCARE HOME.
WE WANT TO PROVIDE NOT FULL-TIME SERVICES, BUT MOSTLY PART-TIME SERVICES, WHICH MEANS FOUR TO SIX HOURS.
SO THAT WOULD GIVE US THE FLEXIBILITY THAT GIVE THEM THE ABILITY TO HAVE LATER TIMES IF THEY NEEDED IT, UM, EARLIER TIMES IF THEY NEEDED IT.
UM, AND THEN ALSO TO STAGGER OUR TRAFFIC IN AND OUT OF THE HOME.
UM, THESE ARE SOME OF THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS THAT WE ARE HOPING TO PROVIDE, UM, AT A COST OF $5 AN HOUR FOR THOSE PI PART-TIME CARE, UM, UH, THOSE FAMILIES NEEDING PART-TIME CARE, IT WOULD BE OF COURSE IDEAL FOR US TO HAVE A FAMILY WITH A NUMBER OF CHILDREN, SO THAT WAY IT WOULD ALSO DECREASE TRAFFIC IN AND OUT OF THE AREA.
ONE FAMILY WITH THREE CHILDREN IS A LOT EASIER THAN, YOU KNOW,
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THREE SEPARATE CARS AND VEHICLES.AND MOST OF THE PEOPLE WHO WORK PART-TIME JOBS, THEY DON'T MAKE A LOT OF MONEY, 12 TO $17 PER HOUR.
SO THAT'S WHY I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE OUR RATES STAY AT $5 AN HOUR SO THEY CAN ACTUALLY TAKE SOMETHING HOME WITH THEM INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, LOSING THEIR WHOLE CHECK.
SO ADDRESSING, UM, THE ISSUES AS I WENT FROM DOOR TO DOOR WITHIN, UM, MY COMMUNITY, THEY, THE MAIN ISSUE THAT, OR THE ONLY ISSUE THAT WE HAD WAS THE TRAFFIC.
SO RIGHT NOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A RESIDENTIAL FOR ONE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSEHOLD, BUT BECAUSE OF INFLATION, THE COST, IT'S NOT AFFORDABLE FOR MANY OF THESE FAMILIES.
SO THEY HAVE MULTIPLE FAMILIES IN A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSEHOLD, AND THAT IS WHY THERE'S SO MUCH TRAFFIC IN THE AREA.
NOW OUR PROPERTY HAS SPACE FOR TWO VEHICLES RIGHT IN THE DRIVEWAY.
SO, UM, NO MATTER WHAT, PEOPLE COULD NOT JUST DRIVE UP TO THE PROPERTY AND PARK IN OUR DRIVEWAY WITHOUT OUR CONSENT.
SO THOSE, THOSE SPOTS WE INTEND TO NAVIGATE THE DIFFERENT FAMILIES, UM, WITHOUT USING ANY OF THE PUBLIC SPACE, PUBLIC PARKING.
AND DOWN THE STREET THERE ARE TWO CUL-DE-SACS, ONE THAT HAS RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES AROUND IT, AND ONE THAT IS AN EMPTY AREA.
SO THEY HAVE, UM, ONE HOME ON THIS SIDE, ONE HOME ON THE LEFT, AND ONE HOME ON THE RIGHT, BUT AROUND IT IS AN EMPTY LOT.
SO YOU COULD FIT FOUR TO SIX CARS THERE.
AND I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE AT LEAST CHILDREN OR FAMILY MEMBERS THAT GO TO SCHOOL AND YOU SEE HOW THEY PULL IN AND OUT.
HUNDREDS OF CARS AT MY SCHOOL THAT HAD WORKED AT OVER 300 CARS IN AND OUT IN A SINGLE DAY, AND THEY HAD TO DO IT WITHIN AN HOUR.
SO THERE WHERE THERE'S A WILL, THERE'S A WAY, AND I CAN GET IT DONE.
AND I'M NOT AFRAID TO TELL ANYONE, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE GUIDELINES, THESE ARE EXPECTATIONS.
IF YOU CAN'T FOLLOW IT, YOU'LL HAVE TO FIND CARE SOMEWHERE ELSE.
SO, UM, AT, OH, CAN YOU REVERSE AT LEARNING LOVE ACADEMY, IT IS OUR UTMOST OF U MORE, MOST PERS UGH OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE THAT WE BENEFIT OUR COMMUNITY.
CURRENTLY OUR STREET HAS HAD STRUGGLES WITH THE LACK OF PARKING AVAILABILITY DUE TO THE MULTIPLE VEHICLES OWNED BY EACH RESIDENT.
UM, BUT LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE THE CUL-DE-SAC AND OUR TARGET AREAS IS TO STAGGER THE PART-TIME, UM, DROP, DROP OFF AND PICKUP TIMES SO THAT WAY THERE'S ENOUGH, UH, OF A GAP FOR EVERYONE TO GET IN AND OUT.
AND THEN THERE WAS, UM, I THOUGHT THERE WAS ANOTHER POINT, BUT GO AHEAD.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU A LITTLE, UM, PHOTO.
IT'S A PANORAMIC PHOTO OF WHAT I'VE GOTTEN DONE SO FAR, AND THE WHOLE FLOOR, EXCEPT FOR THE KITCHEN AREA, IS, UM, ALREADY A DEDICATED SPACE TO BE PERMITTED FOR A DAYCARE.
UM, RIGHT NOW I'M JUST USING IT FOR MY SON TO PRACTICE HIS LETTERS AND HIS NUMBERS.
AND, UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND HEARING ME OUT.
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC INPUT ON THIS ITEM? NO, WE DO NOT.
UM, TO YOU COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE FOR QUESTIONS.
UM, YES, MS. VAUGHN, TO YOU FIRST, UM, ONE THING YOU SAID IN YOUR PRESENTATION THAT SORT OF JUMPED OUT AT ME WAS THIS IDEA OF COMMON CONTRACTS OF 10 HOURS FOR FIVE DAYS A WEEK.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? THAT IS, UM, LIKE HOME CARE BUSINESSES OFTEN DO A CONTRACT OF THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF HOURS THAT YOU COULD LEAVE YOUR CHILD WITH THEM.
AND, UM, I'M A MOTHER, SO THAT IS NOT IDEAL FOR ME.
I'M NOT PLANNING TO DO SOMETHING LIKE, LIKE THAT.
AND SO, UM, THAT IS WHY I'M TRYING TO TALK ABOUT THE PART-TIME OF FOUR TO SIX HOURS BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I CAN MEET THE NEEDS OF THIS CHILD, BUT ALSO MEET THE NEEDS OF MY OWN CHILD.
SO WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT GONNA BE NECESSARILY THAT EVERYONE IS ARRIVING AT THIS LOCATION AT SEVEN TO SEVEN 30 MM-HMM.
AND THEN PICKING UP AT FIVE TO FIVE 30, CORRECT? YES, CORRECT.
AND MY GOAL WOULD BE FOR THEM TO ONLY USE THE DRIVEWAY AND THE PUBLIC PARKING WOULD BE REMAIN PUBLIC.
I'M GONNA GIVE IT TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.
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COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.CAN YOU, YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND, HOW WOULD YOU ENFORCE A STAGGERING DROP OFF IN PICKUPS? BECAUSE AGAIN, UM, I MEAN, I JUST DIDN'T, DON'T SEE HOW THAT CAN HAPPEN.
SO THEY HAVE TO CONSISTENTLY FOLLOW THOSE PARAMETERS OR ELSE I WILL JUST HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, AND, UM, CANCEL THEIR SERVICES.
SO WITH THAT IN MIND, WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOU WON'T ACCEPT, UH, CONTRACTS IF THEY SAY, LET'S SAY THEY'RE EIGHT PEOPLE, THEY NEED TO DROP OFF AT SEVEN 30, YOU WOULD JUST SAY NO? OH YES.
IT'S NOT AS MUCH ABOUT THE MONEY FOR ME AS IT IS, ONE, USING MY GIFT AND HAVING THE FLEXIBILITY TO TAKE CARE OF MY CHILD AND WORK AT THE SAME TIME.
FIRST OF ALL, I APPLAUD YOUR ENTREPRENEURSHIP.
EDUCATION AT ANY LEVEL IS GREAT FOR THE KIDS.
I'M ASSUMING IT'S GONNA BE YOUNGER KIDS, RIGHT? UM, NOW I THINK YOU MENTIONED ONCE BEFORE, MOST DAYCARE FACILITIES ARE GONNA BE STARTING AT 6:00 AM EVEN EARLIER, I THINK YOU MENTIONED EVEN PROVIDING IT EARLIER.
UM, YOU ALSO MENTIONED EARLY ON THAT YOU KNOW, WE WE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO DO THIS.
YES, THERE IS A NEED FOR IT, BUT THERE'S ALSO A SPECIFIC AREA FOR USE FOR THIS.
UH, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT YOUR NEIGHBORS.
UM, ME PERSONALLY, I'M IN EDUCATION OF A DOCTOR IN EDUCATION AND MY WIFE'S AN EDUCATOR, BUT WOULD I WANT A DAYCARE RIGHT NEXT TO ME? NO.
UH, YOU MIGHT SAY, WELL, MY NEIGHBOR'S FINE WITH IT, BUT THE NEIGHBOR MIGHT MOVE OUT.
WHATEVER CHANGES WE MAKE HERE, UH, LIKE IT'S BEEN SAID TODAY, GOES WITH THE, THE PROPERTY, IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP ALL AROUND YOU IS RESIDENTIAL, RIGHT? SO THERE'S, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE CLOSEST COMMERCIAL IS TO THERE IT IS, BUT I MEAN, IT IS, YOU'RE SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL.
UM, YOU'VE ALSO MENTIONED THAT YOU WANT TO DO THIS TO MAKE MONEY AND, AND STAY HOME, UM, WHICH IS A GREAT THING, BUT THE PARENTS WHO HAVE TO WORK A CERTAIN TIME HAVE TO LEAVE THEIR KIDS OR THEY'RE GONNA GO TO SCHOOL, DROP OFF THEIR OLDER KIDS AT SCHOOL, AND THE YOUNGER ONES WITH YOU HAVE TO KINDA ARRIVE WITHIN A CERTAIN TIMEFRAME.
YOU KNOW, AS A BUSINESS PERSON, I DON'T THINK THAT MAKES SENSE, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU, YOU, YOU NEED TO SURVIVE.
UM, SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND.
ALWAYS REMEMBER, START WITH THE END IN MIND.
WHAT IS, WHAT IS YOUR GOAL, RIGHT? IS IT, IS IT, IS IT FINANCIAL? IS IT TO BE HOME WITH YOUR SON? IS IT A SON OR A DAUGHTER? SON.
UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A GREAT PASSION THAT YOU HAVE, BUT MAYBE LOOKING INTO A DIFFERENT AREA FOR ZONING.
UM, I, I, I LOVE ALL OF IT, BUT I THINK THAT'S YOUR ISSUE RIGHT NOW IS YOU'RE SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL ZONING.
UM, ARE YOU GONNA BE ACCREDITED BY LIKE IN A, UH, EVE CY OR, UH, TEXAS HUMAN TEXAS HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES? SO THAT'S HHSC.
AND THEY REGULATE, UM, INSPECTIONS AND GUIDELINES FOR TEXAS FOR THE EDUCATION PART OF IT.
THE PRE LIKE THE ACTUAL, OH, THE, THE CURRICULUM.
UM, THERE ISN'T ANY REQUIREMENT RIGHT NOW FOR CURRICULUM, BUT I HAVE EXPERIENCE FROM WHEN I WORKED IN PRESCHOOL AND WE USED, UM, IT'S ESCAPING MY MIND.
UH, UM, AND DOES THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES ALLOW YOU TO USE THE USDA, UH, THE, THE CREDIT FOR THE FOOD THAT YOU PROVIDE TO THE CHILDREN? OH, YES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IF NOT, UH, BACK TO YOU COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE FOR A MOTION.
I APPRECIATE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL HERE.
THESE ARE TREMENDOUSLY HARD CASES.
WE SEE THESE HARD CASES WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CHILDCARE.
WE SEE THESE HARD CASES WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ELDER CARE AND THESE
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ALMOST HYBRID USES BETWEEN COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL.UH, WHETHER IT'S CHILDCARE OR, YOU KNOW, UM, HEALTHCARE, WHERE WE HAVE BY RIGHT IN OUR RESIDENTIAL USE MATRIX.
UH, A LOW LIMIT FOR A COMMERCIAL USAGE, A DAYCARE, OR, UM, WHY AM I BLANKING ON THE HEALTHCARE USE? UM, BUT IN ANY EVENT, ADULT CARE, ADULT CARE, UH, OR THOSE KINDS OF USES.
UM, I WILL SAY, AND, AND AGAIN, HAVING BEEN THE PERSON WHO HAS SAID ZONING RUNS WITH THE LAND AT LEAST TWICE TODAY AND INNUMERABLE TIMES IN THE MANY YEARS I HAVE BEEN ON THIS COMMISSION, I, I AM KEENLY AWARE OF THAT REQUIREMENT.
I AM ALSO GENERALLY STRONGLY OPPOSED TO INCREASING THE BASE LEVEL USE FOR THESE KINDS OF CHILDCARE OR, UH, UH, ADULT DAYCARE USES IN THE MIDDLE OF A BLOCK.
THAT BEING SAID, UM, I'M GOING TO MOVE FOR APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED IN THIS CASE.
UH, PART OF IT IS BECAUSE OF THE TWO, THE BIGGEST CONCERN FROM THE NEIGHBORS IS TRAFFIC.
THE BIGGEST CONCERN I THINK FROM STAFF IS TRAFFIC.
IN THIS CASE, WE HAVE, UH, TWO CUL-DE-SACS AS THE APPLICANT HAS MENTIONED, THAT CAN, CAN ALLOW FOR PARKING AND STAGING OF THE PARKING TO TAKE PLACE.
WE HAVE TWO DRIVEWAY SLOTS AT THE LOCATION THAT HOPEFULLY WILL BE LEFT OPEN.
UM, WE HAVE, AGAIN, BECAUSE IT'S A CUL-DE-SAC, ALSO, I THINK THAT AMELIORATES SOME OF THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A LOT OF THROUGH TRAFFIC GOING FROM ONE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE TO ANOTHER.
ALL OF THAT PLUS THE DESPERATE NEED OF PARENTS TO GET AFFORDABLE CHILDCARE.
AND, AND LOOK, I GET THAT MAYBE IT'S BETTER OFF IF WE HAD THIS ALL IN A C ONE C TWO USAGE SOMEPLACE.
BUT THE FACT IS, THOSE KINDS OF ZONING AND THOSE KINDS OF PHYSICAL PLANT REQUIREMENTS INCREASE THE COSTS AND, AND THAT CAN MAKE IT OUT OF REACH FOR A GREAT NUMBER OF PEOPLE.
SO GIVEN ALL OF THOSE CONCERNS, I'M GOING TO MOVE FOR APPROVAL AND DO SO, MOVE FOR APPROVAL.
ALL RIGHT, THE MOTION, THE MOTION, UH, IS FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER BUS MONT WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON.
UH, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER'S ON MY LEFT? NONE COMMISSIONER'S ON MY RIGHT.
I MEAN, UM, AND I, I KNOW IT WAS MENTIONED THE CUL-DE-SACS, BUT THE CUL-DE-SACS ARE PRETTY FAR DOWN.
YOU, YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE PARENTS THAT ARE GONNA WANNA PARK WAY OVER THERE, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S RAINING AND IT'S COLD.
THEY'RE GONNA WANT TO COME UP TO THAT.
THAT'S THE PO, LIKE THAT'S THE OVERFLOW AREA, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO WHEN THEY SEE THE, THE EXPECTATION IS WHEN YOU SEE SOMEBODY ALREADY HAS THE DRIVEWAY, YOU NEED TO PARK OVER THERE.
YOU NEED TO COMMUNICATE WITH ME THAT YOU'RE HERE, AND I WILL LET YOU KNOW WHEN IT IS OKAY.
I KNOW I'M GONNA HAVE TO BE ONE TOUGH COOKIE AND THEY WON'T LIKE IT, BUT, YEP.
UM, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.
COMMISSIONER BUSANTE IS RIGHT.
AND THEN THAT THIS IS A, THIS IS A REALLY DIFFICULT CASE.
UM, AND, UM, UNFORTUNATELY I CANNOT GET PAST THE MIDDLE OF THE BLOCK ISSUE.
UM, IF THIS WAS AT THE CORNER, YOU KNOW, I, I, I COULD BE SWAYED BECAUSE WE ALWAYS SEEM TO INCREASE THE DENSITY AT CORNERS, UM, WHERE THERE'S MULTIPLE ACCESS POINTS.
UM, AND, AND I ALSO DO, WHILE I THINK YOUR PRESENTATION WAS AWESOME, UM, I AL I ALWAYS HAVE FEAR FOR THE FUTURE.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH, WITH THAT, IT, IT'S, I BELIEVE THE SIX CHILDREN ALLOWANCE IS A GOOD COMPROMISE FOR WHAT THE CITY ALREADY ALLOWS.
AND SO IT'S JUST ONCE YOU GET OVER A CERTAIN THRESHOLD, UM, AND, UM, THAT, THAT'S CAUSING, THAT'S GIVING ME PAUSE
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RIGHT NOW, BUT THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE WITH A SECOND BITE.UH, AM I ABLE TO SAY ONE THING? UH, OKAY, SURE.
WELL, UM, HHSC ALLOWS ME TO HAVE 12 CHILDREN IN THE HOUSEHOLD.
IT'S SIX CHILDREN FULL-TIME DURING THE DAY, AND SIX CHILDREN AFTER SCHOOL.
SO, WITH THAT BEING SAID, UM, I'M SORRY, I LOST MY POINT.
BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THAT I ALREADY CAN HAVE IT, YOU KNOW, WHY NOT EXPAND THE, IF I CAN'T ALREADY HAVE IT, WHY NOT GIVE ME THE ABILITY TO MAKE IT MANAGEABLE? NO, AND I UNDERSTAND.
AND I THINK THAT'S A CITY, IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A CITY ZONING THING VERSUS A STATE THING IS WHY.
OH, COMMISSIONER CHASE? NO, THAT'S FINE.
SO I'M, I'M ASSUMING THE NEED TO REZONE COMES FROM IF SHE HAS HIRED STAFF, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THE PROBLEM COMES IN.
NO, UM, AGAIN, SHE IS PERMITTED BY RIGHT TO GO UP TO SIX CHILDREN, BUT THE MOMENT SHE GOES SEVEN TO 12, IT WILL NEED THE REZONING.
SO THIS IS WHERE YOU'RE PERMITTED THE USE OF A DAYCARE FOR ONE TO SIX CHILDREN.
THE MOMENT YOU HAVE MORE THAN SIX CHILDREN.
SO NO MATTER WHAT THE STATE SAYS, CORRECT, THE CITY HAS THOSE PARAMETERS.
BECAUSE THEY ARE SENDING MIXED MESSAGES.
NO, TRUST ME, WE GET THAT ALL THE, WE GET THAT ALL THE TIME.
AND DO YOU SEE OUR FRUSTRATION ON THIS SIDE? NO, I DO.
SO THE MO WHERE WAS I? NOW? NOW, NOW I'M LOST.
WE WERE, OH, YEAH, WE WERE, THE MOTION WAS FOR APPROVAL.
WELL, WHAT IT MEANS IS IT GOES TO, IT GOES TO CITY COUNCIL.
SO, SO YOU GO TO CITY COUNCIL.
SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING BODY TO CITY COUNCIL.
[Approval of Minutes ]
UM, WE HAVE MINUTES FOR APPROVAL.SO IS THERE ANY ADDITIONS, CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES? IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES CHAIR.
MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? IS IT, OH, SORRY.
MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER REYES.
[Director’s Report ]
AYE.DO WE HAVE A DIRECTOR'S REPORT? I DO NOT.
YOU HAVE BECOME MORE EFFICIENT WHILE I BINGBO.
ALRIGHT, SO THE TIME IS TWO 40.
WE DO NOT EVEN HAVE TO TAKE A BREAK TODAY.
AND THE COM ZONING COMMISSION FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO IS ADJOURNED.