Sep 03, 2024 City Council Budget Work Session

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>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. WELCOME TO OUR CITY COUNCIL BUDGET SESSION. TIME IS 9:06 A.M. ON THE 3RD DAY OF SEPTEMBER 2024.

WE'LL CALL OUR MEETING TO ORDER. MADAME CLERK, COULD YOU READ THE ROLL?

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>> WE'LL COVER POLICE, FIRE, AND MUNICIPAL COURTS THIS MORNING.

WE'LL DO ALL THREE PRESENTATIONS TOGETHER AND TAKE QUESTIONS.

GOOD TO BE HERE WITH YOU. HERE COMES THE CHIEF.

>> THAT WAS INTENTIONAL, SIR. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: CHIEF, YOU'VE GOT TO MOONWALK TO THE PODIUM, IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT.

>> CHIEF: THAT'S MY WALK-OUT SONG. THANKS, EVERYBODY.

GOOD MORNING. MAYOR, COUNCIL. SO MY PRESENTATION IS GOING TO INCLUDE A DEPARTMENT OVERVIEW, THE FY25 PROPOSED BUDGET, AND LASTLY BUDGET INITIATIVES. SO WITH 65 NEW POSITIONS, OUR AUTHORIZED NUMBER OF OFFICERS IS GOING TO BE 2775. PARK POLICE REMAINS THE SAME. AVIATION POLICE REMAIN THE SAME.

42 ARRESTEE PROCESSING CENTER REMAIN THE SAME. AND WE HAVE 950 CIVILIANS WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT. THESE ARE COMBINED EMERGENCY AND NON-EMERGENCY CALLS.

WE EXPERIENCED AN 8% DECREASE FROM '23 TO '24. AND THEN BASED ON THE NUMBER OF CALLS WE RECEIVED SO FAR THIS YEAR, WE EXPECT THE ESTIMATE WILL FALL BELOW OUR 2024 TARGET OF 2.6 MILLION CALLS. AND THEN LOOKING AT OUR CRIME STATS FROM JANUARY TO JULY OF 2023 COMPARED TO THE SAME PERIOD LAST YEAR -- OR THIS YEAR -- WE HAVE A DECREASE IN CRIME ACROSS THE BOARD IN ALL THREE: VIOLENT, PROPERTY, AND CRIMES AGAINST SOCIETY.

SO WE TOOK TWO FULL YEARS WORTH OF DATA, ARRESTS INCREASED BY 7% FROM JUNE TO MAY 2021 COMPARED TO THE SAME TIME IN 2022, JUNE TO MAY.

AND THEY DECREASED BY 4% FROM JUNE TO MAY IN 2024. AND HERE WE HAVE OUR EMERGENCY RESPONSE TIMES IN MINUTES. ONCE WE GET PAST THE PANDEMIC, TIMES REMAIN FAIRLY CONSISTENT. NON-EMERGENCY RESPONSE TIMES DEPEND ON AN OFFICER'S AVAILABILITY, THE NUMBER OF HIGHER-PRIORITY CALLS THAT ARE IN THE QUEUE, AND OFFICERS WILL DROP ANY NON-EMERGENCY CALLS THAT THEY MAY BE ON IF AN EMERGENCY CALL COMES OUT. AND THEN THE 2025 PROPOSED BUDGET. OUR FY2025 PROPOSED BUDGET IS $603.4 MILLION.

THIS IS A 5% INCREASE OVER FY24 ADOPTED BUDGET AND THE INCREASE IS LARGELY DUE TO PERSONNEL, COSTS, EQUIPMENT, AND CONTRACTUAL REQUIREMENTS.

AND THEN UTSA CRIME PLAN, WHICH IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR QUITE SOMETIME NOW. PHASE 1 BEGAN IN JANUARY OF 2023.

YEAR ONE RESULTS, WE HAD A 37% REDUCTION IN AVERAGE VIOLENT CRIME INCIDENTS

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AND THEN VIOLENT CRIME REDUCTION PLAN FOCUSED ON 28 HOT SPOT LOCATIONS AND THOSE HOT SPOT LOCATIONS WERE THE RESULT OF THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF CALLS TO CERTAIN ADDRESSES. WE CAME OUT WITH 28 OF THOSE.

PHASE 2 BEGAN IN JUNE OF 2024 YEAR. WE HAVE MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS INVOLVED IN THIS PHASE OF THE VIOLENT CRIME REDUCTION PLAN.

SAPD, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, METRO HEALTH, PARKS AND REC, JUST TO NAME A FEW.

WHAT THEY DO IS TRY AND IDENTIFY CAUSES OF CRIME WITHIN A CERTAIN AREA, NOT JUST WITHIN ONE PARTICULAR ADDRESS. 65 NEW POLICE OFFICERS COSTING US $6.3 MILLION. THE TARGET IS TO HIRE 360 OVER THE NEXT THREE TO FIVE YEARS. LAST YEAR WE ADDED 117 AND AS A RESULT OF A STAFFING STUDY. OUR TARGET, BASED ON THAT STAFFING STUDY, IS TO ADD A TOTAL OF 360 OVER THE NEXT THREE TO FIVE YEARS AND THE GOAL IS TO HAVE OFFICERS, LESS TIME ON CALL AND MORE TIME TO ENGAGE WITH COMMUNITIES TO ADDRESS ISSUES THAT NEGATIVELY IMPACT THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND 2025 TO INCLUDE CLASS SIZE, START DATES, AND GRADUATION DATES.

2023 E WAS THE LAST CLASS FROM 2023 AND THEY GRADUATED IN AUGUST AND THE LAST CLASS OF 2024 WILL START ON SEPTEMBER 9 AND THERE WILL BE 73 CADETS IN THAT CLASS.

2021 WAS THE FIRST YEAR THAT WE AWARDED A COMMUNITY CRIME PREVENTION GRANT AND WE AWARDED THAT GRANT TO WEST CARE. IN FISCAL YEAR '23 AND '24, WE AWARDED GRANTS TO CHARLES SATTERWHITE SAN ANTONIO RISING STARS AND IN 2023 TO SUIT UP . 2022 WEST CARE FREED AND RISING STARS WERE RECIPIENTS OF COMMUNITY CRIME PREVENTION GRANTS IN THAT YEAR.

AND THE IDEA BEHIND THIS WAS TO WORK WITH ORGANIZATIONS THAT COLLABORATE WITH YOUTH ORGANIZATIONS AND KEEP THEM AWAY FROM DRUGS AND OTHER TYPES OF CRIME, GANGS, AND HELP KEEP THEM SAFE. AND THE SOUTH FLORES POLICE SUBSTATION WAS APPROVED IN THE 2022 BOND PROGRAM. CURRENTLY WE'RE STILL HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN THAT AREA, TALKING ABOUT WHAT THEY'D LIKE TO SEE IN THE SUBSTATION. WE ARE ESTIMATED TO OPEN THAT IN THE WINTER OF 2026.

SO CENTRO AND CITY STAFF HAVE BEEN MEETING FOR THE PAST FEW MONTHS NOW ABOUT A DOWNTOWN CAMERA PROJECT. AND THIS PROJECT WOULD PROVIDE FOR REALTIME CRIME MONITORING FROM THOSE CAMERAS. IT WILL INTEGRATE PRIVATE CAMERAS TO ANYONE WHO OWNS A PRIVATE CAMERA ON THEIR BUSINESS AND WANTS TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT PROGRAM. AND IT ALSO PROVIDES SITUATIONAL AWARENESS FOR POLICE AND SERVES AS AN INVESTIGATIVE TOOL. BECAUSE IT IS REALTIME, WE EXPECT IT MAY HELP LOWER RESPONSE TIMES IN THOSE AREAS.

AND WE ARE LOOKING TO INCREASE THE FEE FOR NON-PERMITTED ACCOUNTS, FALSE ALARM ACCOUNTS. BECAUSE OF THE HIGH NUMBER OF FALSE ALARMS FROM UNPERMITTED ALARMS, WE ARE PROPOSING TO RAISE THE FEE FOR AN UNPERMITTED FALSE

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SAFFE OFFICERS OFTEN COORDINATE WITH SOLID WASTE TO EXPEDITE REMOVAL.

AND BECAUSE NOBODY IS GOING TO DUMP TRASH WHEN THERE'S A POLICE OFFICER AROUND, WE WORK WITH SOLID WASTE TO DO SOME COVERT OPERATIONS.

AND MY LAST SLIDE, JUST TO SUM IT UP, WE BELIEVE THAT NEW OFFICER POSITIONS IS GOING TO HELP IMPROVE OUR COMMUNITY POLICING EFFORTS BY PROVIDING MORE DISCRETIONARY TIME FOR OFFICERS. WE ADHERE TO THE BEST PRACTICES IN RECRUITING, TRAINING, IMPROVEMENT STRATEGIES TO PROVIDE THE BEST SERVICE WE CAN. UNLIKE SOME LARGE CITY POLICE DEPARTMENTS, WE REMAIN A FULL-SERVICE POLICE DEPARTMENT, MEANING THAT THERE ARE BIG CITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT DON'T EVEN ANSWER CERTAIN CALLS FOR SERVICE.

AND WE, UNLIKE THEM, HAVE A FULL-SERVICE DEPARTMENT. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I WOULD LIKE TO CALL CHRIS UP, MONESTIER.

>> GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I DON'T HAVE THEME MUSIC LIKE CHIEF MCMANUS BUT BACK BY POPULAR DEMAND, WE DO HAVE A VIDEO.

START THAT HERE IN JUST A SECOND

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: FIRE WINS AGAIN, CHIEF. >> THANKS.

SO TODAY FOR THIS PRESENTATION, WE'RE GOING TO QUICK OVERVIEW OF OUR DEPARTMENT AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR '25.

OUR BUDGET INITIATIVES WILL REVEAL A LITTLE BIT OF OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS AT THE END. HERE'S OUR DEPARTMENT OVERVIEW. WITH THE ADDITION OF 15 WE'LL BE AT 1868 FOR UNIFORMED EMPLOYEES. YOU CAN SEE OUR CIVILIAN STAFF THERE.

THE NUMBER OF FIRE STATIONS. EACH STATION HAS A FIRE ENGINE.

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WE HAVE UP TO 8 PEAK UNITS AT ANY GIVEN TIME AND 3 EMS UNITS FOR OUR JOINT BASE SAN ANTONIO. AIR RESCUE AND FIRING, TECHNICAL RESCUE TEAM AND EQUIPMENT, HAZARDOUS MATERIALS TEAMS, ARSON BUREAU.

FULL-SERVICE DEPARTMENT . WE ARE AN ISO CLASS 1 FIRE DEPARTMENT.

UNDER 1% OF FIRE DEPARTMENTS HAVE THIS CLASSIFICATION. WE'RE ALSO ACCREDITED BY THE COMMISSION FOR FIRE ACCREDITATION INTERNATIONAL. THAT PICTURE THERE, THAT'S OUR TEAM THAT DEFENDED OUR REACCREDITATION PROCESS IN ORLANDO BACK IN FEBRUARY.

WE WERE AWARDED OUR ACCREDITATION FOR ANOTHER FIVE YEARS.

ONLY 125 FIRE DEPARTMENTS HOLD BOTH OF THOSE DISTINCTIONS.

A CLASS 1 ISO AND AN ACCREDITED AGENCY. 13% OF THE U.S. POPULATION IS SERVED BY AN ACCREDITED AGENCY AND THERE ARE 324 OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS.

WE ARE VERY PROUD OF THIS DESIGNATION. OUR FIRE AND MEDICAL INCIDENTS CONTINUE TO RISE. YOU CAN SEE IN '23 OUR TOTAL --, THIS IS NOT UNIT RESPONSES, THIS IS JUST A CALL FOR SERVICE. IT COULD BE MULTIPLE UNITS RESPONDING. WE'RE AT 243,000. OUR ESTIMATE FOR '24, AS YOU CAN SEE GOES UP A LITTLE BIT TO 250. AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SLIDE THERE WE REMAIN AT 80/20 FIRE DEPARTMENT, WHICH MEANS THAT 80% OF OUR INCIDENTS ARE MEDICAL-RELATED INCIDENTS. THAT DOESN'T MEAN ONLY A MEDIC UNIT, AMBULANCE IS RESPONDING TO THAT. WE HAVE PLENTY OF MEDICAL INCIDENTS WHERE DIFFERENT TYPES OF APPARATUS RESPOND TO.

SOMETIMES A MEDIC UNIT DOESN'T RESPOND AT ALL. THESE ARE OUR UNIT RESPONSES BY INCIDENT TYPE. YOU SEE THE TARGET. THESE ARE MEDICAL INCIDENTS.

THIS COULD BE ANY TYPE OF MEDIC INCIDENT, SQUAD UNIT, LADDER TRUCK OR ENGINE.

THAT TOP PIECE IS OUR CLINICAL DISPATCHING PIECE. AND SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THE NEXT COMING SLIDE. BUT YOU CAN SEE WE ESTIMATE ABOUT 9,600 OR SO CLINICAL DISPATCH CALLS FOR '24. AND THAT SHOULD INCREASE FOR '25 AS WELL. OUR RESPONSE TIMES, WE KEEP THAT EIGHT-MINUTE BENCHMARK.

WE HAVE EXPERIENCED A LITTLE BIT OF RESPONSE TIME CREEP OVER THE YEARS.

IT'S GONE UP A LITTLE BIT FROM '22 TO '23 AND OUR PROJECTION FOR '24 IS TO REMAIN THE SAME. A COUPLE OF REASONS FOR THAT.

ONE OF THE BIGGEST REASONS IS THAT WE'RE SPENDING A LOT MORE TIME ON THE FRONT END FOR CALL PROCESSING SO THE DISPATCHERS ARE MAKING SURE WE HAVE THE APPROPRIATE UNIT RESPONDING TO THOSE INCIDENTS. SO THROUGH OUR CLINICAL DISPATCHING PROGRAM, THEY'RE SPENDING A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME MAKING SURE THAT THE RIGHT UNIT IS GOING. AND THEN OF COURSE ANY INCREASES IN CALL VOLUME, YOU SHOULD EXPECT TO SEE A LITTLE BIT OF RESPONSE TIME INCREASE AS WELL.

THIS IS THE CLINICAL DISPATCH PROGRAM. WE CALL THESE SAVE.

YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBER OF ACTUAL CALLS THAT ARE HANDLED BY THE CLINICAL DISPATCHER, 90% OF THOSE SO FAR IN FISCAL YEAR 2024, 90% OF THOSE WE DID NOT SEND A RESOURCE TO. THOSE WERE HANDLED IN-HOUSE. THEY WERE EITHER REFERRED TO MEDICAL NAVIGATION OR THEY WERE ABLE TO GET THE RESOURCES THAT THEY NEED WITHOUT ACTUALLY SENDING A UNIT ON THOSE TYPE OF INCIDENTS.

THE BOTTOM OF THE SLIDE THERE YOU CAN SEE THAT THE TAXI VOUCHER PROGRAM IS STILL IN PLACE AND THAT PERCENTAGE KEEPS INCREASING. SO WE STARTED OFF IN '22, ABOUT 80% OF THOSE WE WEREN'T SENDING A UNIT ON. NOW WE'RE UP TO 90%.

THAT'S IMPORTANT. WE'RE KEEPING UNITS IN SERVICE.

ANOTHER THING TO NOTE TOO IS THAT OUR CLINICAL DISPATCHING, THE UTILIZATION AREAS. SINCE FY 2022, 72.5% OF THOSE UTILIZERS HAVE BEEN IN AN AREA THAT HAS AN EQUITY SCORE OF BETWEEN 6 TO 10. SO THE HIGHER EQUITY SCORES,

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SO THERE ARE SOME INCREASES THERE AND THEN OF COURSE PERSONNEL COSTS, ESPECIALLY, THROUGH THE CBA THAT HOPEFULLY WILL BE PASSED AND APPROVED.

OUR 2025 CADET AND PARAMEDIC TRAINING SCHEDULE. WE STAY RUNNING AT EMS CLASS AND A FIRE CADET CLASS. AS YOU CAN SEE IN 2025, WE EXPECT TO GRADUATE 63 PARAMEDICS. THEY'LL GO INTO THE FIELD TO REPLACE THOSE THAT HAVE EITHER RETIRED OR PROMOTED ON. OR ANY ADDITIONAL UNITS THAT NEED PERSONNEL. AND THEN OUR CADET CLASSES, WE EXPECT TO GRADUATE THOSE TWO CLASSES IN '25 WITH 88 FIREFIGHTERS. PART OF THIS BUDGET WE'RE ADDRESSING THE MEDICAL CALLS SO WE HAVE AN ENHANCED SQUAD PROGRAM.

BACK IN 2024 WE ADDED EMS UNIT, MEDIC 40 THAT JUST CAME ONLINE.

TO CONTINUE TO ADDRESS THE HIGH-VOLUME CALLS THAT WE CONTINUE TO RECEIVE, WE'RE PROPOSING TO ADD AT FIRE STATION 4 AND A SQUAD AT FIRE STATION 19. SQUAD 44, WHICH A FEW YEARS AGO, WE ADDED A SQUAD TO THAT SINGLE-ENGINE COMPANY, THAT'S SQUAD 44 THERE.

VERY SUCCESSFUL IN DEALING WITH THE CALL VOLUME IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA.

BUT WHEN WE PUT THAT IN PLACE, WE ONLY ADDED THREE FIREFIGHTERS AND SO WE BORROW ONE FROM THE ENGINE THAT'S THERE AND SO BY ADDING THREE MORE FIREFIGHTERS, WE'RE ABLE TO KEEP THE ENGINE IN SERVICE WITH FOUR FIREFIGHTERS AND THEN THE SQUAD IN SERVICE WITH TWO. AND SO THAT'S THE NEW PLAN MOVING FORWARD WHEN WE ADD SQUADS. LAST YEAR WE ALSO ADDED -- OR ACTUALLY THE YEAR BEFORE -- SQUAD 24 WAS THIS THE BUDGET.

AND SQUAD 24 WE PUT ONLINE WITH SIX FIREFIGHTERS SO THEY COULD HAVE THE SAME PROGRAM. THAT WAY WE COULD KEEP THAT ENGINE IN SERVICE FULLY STAFFED AND HAVE THE SQUAD FULLY STAFFED AT THE SAME TIME.

THESE WILL COME ONLINE JULY 1ST. A LITTLE BIT SOONER THAN USUAL BUDGET PROCESSES. AGAIN, TO ADDRESS THE CALL VOLUME.

YOU SEE HERE THESE ARE THE TEN BUSIEST PLANNING ZONES. PLANNING ZONE IS A RESPONSE DISTRICT FOR A PARTICULAR STATION. THESE ARE MEDICAL INCIDENTS ONLY AND THESE ARE THE TEN BUSIEST PLANNING ZONES FOR MEDICAL INCIDENTS.

AND THERE YOU CAN SEE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE BUSY PLANNING ZONES HAS RESOURCES, OF COURSE, TO ADDRESS THOSE CALLS. ALL OF THEM HAVE A SQUAD UNIT EXCEPT FOR FIRE STATION 4 AND 19. THAT'S WHY THE DECISION AND THE ANALYSIS SHOW THAT THOSE ARE THE LOCATIONS THAT WE NEEDED THEM THE MOST.

ALSO PROPOSED IS EMS TRANSPORT FEE INCREASE. SO WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 73,000 EMS TRANSPORTS. WE CALCULATED A COST OF A TRANSPORT AT ABOUT $3700.

THE FEE FOR A TRANSPORT IS $1,000. REVENUE COLLECTED, $25 MILLION, AS YOU CAN SEE THERE. PERCENTAGES, COMMERCIAL, THE VAST MAJORITY IS PAID BY COMMERCIAL INSURANCE. MEDICARE, MEDICAID, AND THERE ARE THOSE THAT THE '25 BUDGET WE PLAN ON INCREASING THAT TRANSPORT FEE UP $500 TO $1500. AND THAT'S A LITTLE OVER $5 MILLION IN REVENUE, ADDITIONAL REVENUE. FOR EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS, ARPA 1, WE HAVE IT IN TWO DIFFERENT PHASES AND SO THIS ADDS A LOT OF GENERATORS TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE FACILITIES STAY OPERABLE WHENEVER THERE'S SOME SORT OF POWER OUTAGE.

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PHASE 2 INCLUDES OUR SERVICES DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS OUR SHOPS, TO MAKE SURE THAT IN ANY TYPE OF EMERGENCY LIKE THAT WHERE THERE'S LOSS OF POWER, WE'RE ABLE TO KEEP THAT FACILITY IN OPERATION. THE CENTRAL SHOPS, YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENT COMMUNITY CENTERS THERE. AND THEN AS PART OF THE 2022 BOND, WE HAD GENERATORS THAT WERE PART OF THAT PLAN AS WELL.

AS YOU CAN SEE THE POLICE SUBSTATIONS WERE INCLUDED IN THAT PROJECT.

CONTINUING ON HERE FOR THE ARPA PROJECTS. WE SEE THAT OUR PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITIES, WE HOPE TO COMPLETE THOSE NOVEMBER OF '25.

THAT'S THE EOC, OUR EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER. THERE'S SOME ENHANCEMENTS THERE TO ALLOW FOR LONGER-TERM STAYS IF THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT EVENT.

EMERGENCY EQUIPMENT. YOU CAN SEE THE LIST THERE. YOU SEE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FUEL TINDER. WE SAW DURING THE SNOWMAGEDDON INCIDENT WHERE WE HAD TO FILL EMERGENCY VEHICLES AND EMERGENCY GENERATORS SO OUR FUEL TINDER IS VERY, VERY OLD . THAT'S PART OF THE FUNDING FOR THAT THERE.

RESILIENCY CENTERS, HOPEFULLY THAT WILL BE COMPLETED IN MAY.

UPDATE ON OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS. SO FIRE STATION 52 AND 53.

THESE WERE INITIALLY CONSTRUCTED WITH THE MODULAR-TYPE CONSTRUCTION THERE. YOU CAN SEE AND WE'RE PUTTING IN THE FULL-FLEDGED LARGER STATIONS THERE TO ACCOMMODATE ADDITIONAL APPARATUS, FOR SURE.

THEY'RE IN DESIGN RIGHT NOW. CONSTRUCTION SHOULD START JUNE OF '25 WITH SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION IN THE FALL OF '26. FIRE STATION 21 ON THE SOUTHSIDE IS IN DESIGN. CONSTRUCTION SHOULD START THE NEXT YEAR AND SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION THE FOLLOWING YEAR, WINTER OF '26.

FIRE STATION 10 HAS BEEN KIND OF DIFFICULT TO FIND PROPERTY.

WE HAVE HAD A COUPLE OF DEALS FALL THROUGH BUT WE'RE STILL LOOKING.

FIRE STATION 10 AND FIRE STATION 3 ARE BOTH BOND PROJECTS.

FIRE STATION 33 , WE'RE IN THE LAND ACQUISITION PROCESS.

WE HAVE A COUPLE OF GOOD PROSPECTS. WE HOPE TO BE NEGOTIATING SOON SO YOU'LL BE GETTING BRIEFED ON THAT. OUR 2025 INITIATIVES, AGAIN, WE'RE PROTECTING SAN ANTONIO FROM ALL HAZARDS WITH COMPASSION AND PROFESSIONALISM. WHENEVER WE DO THE CITYWIDE SURVEY, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS ALWAYS THERE AT THE TOP WITH THE LIBRARIES. LIBRARIES AREN'T HERE TODAY BUT, YOU KNOW, SOLID WASTE. WE'RE PROUD OF THAT. PART OF THIS 2025 INITIATIVE, WE WANT TO MAINTAIN OUR ISO RATING. WE'RE IN THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW OF BEING EVALUATED FOR ISO TO OBTAIN THAT CLASS 1 RATING AND, LIKE I SAY, WE HAVE JUST BEEN REACCREDITED THROUGH THE COMMISSION ON FIRE ACCREDITATION INTERNATIONAL . BUT YOU CAN'T JUST REST ON YOUR LAURELS FOR ACCREDITATION. IT'S AN ONGOING PROCESS OF ANALYSIS, OF SELF-IMPROVEMENT. SO EVERY YEAR THERE'S AN ANNUAL REVIEW.

WE'LL LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE DOING. WE TRY TO MAKE THINGS BETTER AND SO ALL THAT'S SUBMITTED AS WELL TO THE AGENCY SO WE CAN MAINTAIN OUR ACCREDITATION. WE WANT TO INCREASE OUR UNIT AVAILABILITY AND MANAGE OUR RESPONSE TIMES FOR EMS AND FIRE. AND THAT HAS TO DO WITH OUR PROPOSAL FOR THE ADDITIONAL SQUAD UNITS. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO ENHANCE OUR EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS OF PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITIES AND COLLABORATE WITH OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS IN OUTREACH AND EDUCATION EFFORTS.

SO THERE'S OUTREACH PLANNED FOR OUR EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER, EOC, OUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH WITH OUR SAFD OUTREACH AND PUBLIC EDUCATION DIVISION, AND OF COURSE MAKING SURE WE HAVE ALL THOSE FACILITIES UP TO SPEED AS FAR AS EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS. I'LL HAND IT OVER TO MUNICIPAL COURT AND FRED

GARCIA. >> GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER.

I'M FRED GARCIA. I'M THE MUNICIPAL COURT CLERK.

ON BEHALF OF PRESIDING JUDGE CARLA OBLEDO, OUR DEDICATED JUDGES AND COURT STAFF, WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT OUR PROPOSED BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025. TODAY I'LL GUIDE YOU THROUGH AN OVERVIEW OF THE COURT, COVERING THE FISCAL YEAR '25 BUDGET COMPONENTS, CAPITAL OUTLAY REQUESTS, PERFORMANCE

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JUDGE OBLEDO WILL THEN DISCUSS THE OPERATIONS OF OUR SPECIALTY COURTS ALONG WITH COURT ENGAGEMENTS AND INITIATIVES, SHOWCASING HOW WE CONSTANTLY STRIVE TO IMPROVE OUR SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY. BEFORE I DIVE INTO THE DETAILS, I WOULD LIKE TO EMPHASIZE OUR MISSION STATEMENT WHICH SERVES AS THE FOUNDATION OF OUR WORK. EVERY DAY OUR CLERKS, BAILIFFS, JUDGES, JUVENILE CASE MANAGERS, FISCAL ACCOUNTING STAFF, ADMINISTRATORS, ANALYSTS, AND ALL COURT STAFF ARE DEEPLY COMMITTED TO THIS MISSION IN THEIR SERVICE TO YOUR RESIDENTS. WE BELIEVE IN JUSTICE, FAIRNESS, DIGNITY, AND RESPECT FOR EVERY INDIVIDUAL WHO COMES BEFORE THE COURT. ENSURING THEY HAVE A VOICE AND ACCESS TO THE JUSTICE SYSTEM. AS A MUNICIPAL COURT, WE HOLD A UNIQUE AND CRITICAL ROLE IN CITY GOVERNMENT. UNDER THE JUDICIAL AUTHORITY GRANTED BY THE UNITED STATES AND TEXAS CONSTITUTIONS, ALONG WITH STATE STATUTES AND ORDINANCES WE PROVIDE A RESOLUTION TO DISPUTES AND PROTECT INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS.

OUR JUDGES AND STAFF ARE DEDICATED TO DELIVERING JUSTICE WITH DIGNITY.

THIS COMMITMENT IS REFLECTED IN THE SERVICES WE PROVIDE, THE WAY WE ADMINISTER JUSTICE IN OUR ONGOING EFFORTS TO IMPROVE ACCESS TO THE COURT.

IN FACT, THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE PARTNERED WITH THE CENTER CITY DEVELOPMENT OFFICE TO MAKE OUR PUBLIC PARKING LOT FREE TO PARK FOR OUR COURT VISITORS.

THEREFORE, REMOVING ANY FINANCIAL BARRIERS TO ATTEND COURT.

TODAY WE'LL DEMONSTRATE HOW WE UPHOLD THESE PRINCIPLES DAILY AND OUR STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR. PRESIDING JUDGE CARLA OBLEDO LEADS WITH DISTINCTION, OVERSEEING THE ADMINISTRATIVE PRACTICES OF THE COURT PROCEDURAL JUSTICE . IN MY ROLE AS MUNICIPAL COURT CLERK, I OVERSEE THE ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES OF THE COURT, ENSURE THAT OUR OPERATIONS ALIGN WITH OUR MISSION. TOGETHER JUDGE OBLEDO AND I WORK HAND IN HAND TO ENSURE THAT OUR JUDICIARY AND ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES FULFILL THE COURT'S RESPONSIBILITY TO SERVE THE PUBLIC. OUR COURT IS DIVIDED INTO FOUR MAJOR DIVISIONS: THE JUDICIARY, MAGISTRATES OFFICE, COURT OPERATIONS, AND JUVENILE PROGRAMS. WE ALSO HAVE SEVERAL JURISDICTIONS WHERE PARKING AND CONDUCT CIVIL HEARINGS RELATED TO CRUELTY TO ANIMALS.

THESE UNDERSCORE A CRITICAL ROLE WE PLAY IN MAINTAINING SAFETY AND UPHOLDING THE LAW. OUR PROPOSED BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR '25 INCLUDES A $700,000 INCREASE IN THE GENERAL FUND FROM FISCAL YEAR '24.

REFLECTING OUR COMMITMENT TO ENHANCING SERVICES AND ADDRESSING THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY. THIS AMOUNTS TO A HIGHER CIVILIAN COMPENSATION IN HEALTHCARE COSTS, NECESSARY BUILDING MAINTENANCE AND ITSD FEES.

ADDITIONALLY IT INCLUDES ADJUSTMENTS FOR OUR CREDIT CARD FEES.

WE ARE ALSO PROPOSING A $200,000 INCREASE IN OUR RESTRICTED FUNDS WHICH WILL BE ALLOCATED TOWARDS I.T. CASE MANAGEMENT REPLACEMENT AND MAINTENANCE COSTS.

OUR RESTRICTED FUNDS INCLUDE THE MUNICIPAL COURT BUILDING SECURITY FUND, LOCAL YOUTH DIVERSION FUND AND TECHNOLOGY FUND. THESE MAINTAIN THE SECURITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE NECESSARY FOR EFFICIENT COURT OPERATIONS.

OUR GRANTS FOR THE TRUANCY INTERVENTION PROGRAM REMAINS STEADY AT $300,000.

ENABLING US TO CONTINUE PROVIDING ESSENTIAL SERVICES TO AT-RISK YOUTH.

OUR FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE POSITION COUNT REMAINS UNCHANGED AT 141, REFLECTING OUR ONGOING COMMITMENT TO MAINTAIN A STABLE AND EXPERIENCED WORKFORCE.

FOR FISCAL YEAR '25 WE ARE REQUESTING ADDITIONAL FUNDING OF $188,000 TO COMPLETE THE RENOVATION OF FIVE COURTROOMS. THESE COURTROOMS HAVE NOT BEEN UPDATED SINCE THE 1990S AND THE REQUESTED FUNDS WILL COVER NEW TABLES, STORAGE, OFFICE FURNITURE, AND NECESSARY ELECTRICAL UPGRADES.

THESE IMPROVEMENTS ARE ESSENTIAL FOR CREATING A MORE FUNCTIONAL AND WELCOMING ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR COURT USERS AND STAFF. FOR FISCAL YEAR '24 WE ACHIEVED 118% CASE CLEARANCE RATE. MEANING THAT WE NOT ONLY KEPT PACE WITH INCOMING CASES BUT ALSO SUCCESSFULLY ADDRESSED OLDER CASES IN WARRANT STATUS. THIS IS A CLEAR INDICATION OF OUR DEDICATION TO

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OUR WARRANT CLEARANCE RATE FOR FISCAL YEAR '24 STANDS AT 74%.

A STRONG INDICATOR OF OUR EFFECTIVENESS ENSURING THAT INDIVIDUALS COMPLY WITH COURT ORDERS. ADDITIONALLY, 65% OF CASES FILED WERE PAID, REFLECTING OUR SUCCESS IN SECURING COMPLIANCE AND UPHOLDING THE RULE OF LAW.

JUVENILE SERVICES REMAINS A PRIORITY FOR US AND WE CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON ENGAGING AT-RISK YOUTH. IN FISCAL YEAR '24 WE ACHIEVED A 50% ATTENDANCE RATE FOR TRUANT CONDUCT, MEDIATION HEARINGS, AND OUR JUVENILE CASE CLEARANCE RATE WAS 39%. WE ARE OPTIMISTIC THESE NUMBERS WILL IMPROVE AS MORE COMPLETE THEIR PROBATION AND CLOSE THEIR CASES. WE ARE PROUD TO OFFER SERVICES TO ENSURE ACCESS TO JUSTICE. TEXT MESSAGING HAS BECOME A KEY TOOL IN OUR COMMUNICATION STRATEGY, SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASING TRIAL AND HEARING APPEARANCES. IN FISCAL YEAR '24 WE SENT A LARGE VOLUME OF TEXT MESSAGES FOR VARIOUS PURPOSES, INCLUDING HEARING AND TRIAL DATE REMINDERS, NOTIFICATIONS OF UPCOMING AND PAST DUE DATES, PAYMENTS OF ONLINE REQUEST NOTIFICATIONS. THESE MESSAGES HAVE ALLOWED US TO COMMUNICATE MORE EFFECTIVELY AND EFFICIENTLY WITH INDIVIDUALS, SAVING BOTH TIME AND RESOURCES. ONE INNOVATIVE USE OF TEXT MESSAGING IS OUR OMNI-BASED DOCKET WHERE INDIVIDUALS ARE PROMPTED TO RESOLVE OLDER FDA CASES BY RECEIVING A TEXT TO APPEAR AT A WEEKLY DOCKET. THIS APPROACH HAS BEEN HIGHLY EFFECTIVE, REDUCING THE NEED FOR STAFF TIME AND MAILING NOTIFICATIONS.

OUR ONLINE SERVICES, WE SAW A 10% INCREASE FROM '23 TO '24.

MORE INDIVIDUALS TAKING ADVANTAGE OF OUR ONLINE OFFERINGS TO REQUEST DRIVER SAFETY, DEFERRED DISPOSITION, COMMUNITY SERVICE, COMPLIANCE DISMISSALS. THIS SHIFT TOWARDS ONLINE SERVICES REFLECTS OUR COMMITMENT TO MAKING THE COURT MORE ACCESSIBLE AND CONVENIENT TO ALL.

OUR CASE FILINGS CATEGORIES BY TRAFFIC, NON-TRAFFIC, PARKING, AND CIVIL VIOLATIONS. SO SLIGHT DECREASE IN FISCAL YEAR '24.

HOWEVER TRAFFIC OFFICES ARE TRENDING HIGHER WHILE CIVIL PARKING VIOLATIONS HAVE DECREASED. WE HAVE SEEN AN INCREASE IN NON-TRAFFIC CRIMINAL CASES ATTRIBUTABLE TO FILINGS BY ACS. AS YOU KNOW THE COURT OPERATES A 24-HOUR MAGISTRATION COURT FOR ALL ARRESTEES.

ARRESTED INDIVIDUALS CHARGED WITH A CRIME ARE BROUGHT BEFORE A CITY MAGISTRATE FOR A PROBABLE CAUSE HEARING WHERE THEY ARE ADVISED OF THEIR RIGHTS AND EITHER COMMITTED TO JAIL OR RELEASED. THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE NUMBER OF MAGISTRATION HEARINGS AND WRITS ISSUED. OVERALL, HEARINGS INCREASED BY 7% IN FISCAL YEAR '24 COMPARED TO '23 INDICATING A RISE IN ARRESTS.

HOWEVER THE NUMBER OF WRITS DECREASED BY 8% IN THE SAME PERIOD, REFLECTING CHANGES IN THESE TYPES OF CASES PROCESSED. THIS CONCLUDES MY PORTION OF THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, AND CITY MANAGER FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. AND I WILL NOW TURN THE PRESENTATION OVER TO PRESIDING JUDGE CARLA OBLEDO, WHO WILL DISCUSS THE OPERATIONS OF OUR SPECIALTY COURTS AS WELL AS OUR COURT INITIATIVES.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING OUR WORK TO ENSURE JUSTICE AND FAIRNESS

FOR ALL. >> GOOD MORNING. I HAVE A LOT TO COVER SO I'M GOING TO JUMP ON INTO IT. IN ADDITION TO THE DAILY WALK-IN DOCKET THE COURT OPERATES SPECIALTY DOCKETS THAT ALLOW JUDGES TO SPEND ADDITIONAL TIME WITH EACH DEFENDANT ADDRESSING THEIR UNIQUE NEEDS. THIS DEDICATED TIME ENABLES JUDGES TO ENGAGE MORE MEANINGFULLY WITH DEFENDANTS WHILE ALSO HOLDING THEM ACCOUNTABLE. BY EMPLOYING CREATIVE SENTENCING OPTIONS, JUDGES CAN IMPOSE COMMUNITY SERVICE, REQUIRE PARTICIPATION IN AGGRESSIVE

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THE GOAL OF THE DOCKET IS TO IMPROVE APPEARANCE RATES AS IT IS DIFFICULT TO HELP INDIVIDUALS WHO FAIL TO APPEAR OTHER DOCKETS INCLUDE A MINOR IN POSSESSION DOCKET, DPS, QUALITY OF LIFE, EXPUNCTION, AND A DOCKET TO ADDRESS COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLES. THIS LAST FISCAL YEAR THERE WAS AN INCREASE IN INDIVIDUALS CHARGED WITH FAMILY VIOLENCE OFFENSES WHO HAVE COMPLETED THEIR DEFERRED DISPOSITION REQUIREMENTS, RISING FROM 39% IN FISCAL YEAR '23 TO 58% IN FISCAL YEAR '24. CURRENTLY COURT STAFF CONTACTS DEFENDANTS TWO TIMES DURING THEIR DEFERRAL PERIOD TO ASSIST WITH ANY CHALLENGES THEY MAY BE FACING IN COMPLETING COURT-ORDERED REQUIREMENTS. LAST OCTOBER METRO HEALTH PROVIDED WEEKLY SUPPORT OFFERING INFORMATION ON SPECIALIZED PROGRAMS AND INITIATIVES AIMED AT PREVENTION, INTERVENTION, AND REHABILITATION.

WE HAVE ALREADY SCHEDULED METRO HEALTH THIS OCTOBER AND ARE EXPLORING FURTHER STRATEGIES TO FURTHER IMPROVE OUTCOMES THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

THE COURT REGULARLY MEETS WITH ACS AND CITY PROSECUTORS TO ENSURE TIMELY CASE HEARINGS. DESPITE OUR DIFFERENT ROLES WE SHARE A COMMITMENT TO PUBLIC SAFETY, HOLDING PET OWNERS ACCOUNTABLE AND ALSO EDUCATING THE COMMUNITY ON RESPONSIBLE PET OWNERSHIP. IN FISCAL YEAR '24 THE TOP THREE CRIMINAL CITATIONS WERE: FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH DANGEROUS DOG REQUIREMENTS, FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH AGGRESSIVE DOG REQUIREMENTS, ANIMAL NUISANCE. THE AVERAGE FINE ASSESSED FOR CRIMINAL CASES IS ABOUT $267 WHILE FOR CIVIL CITATIONS THE AVERAGE IS ABOUT $160. WHEN APPROPRIATE, THE JUDGE CAN ALSO ORDER RESPONSIBLE PET OWNER CLASSES AND INDIVIDUALS CAN ALSO BE ORDERED TO PERFORM COMMUNITY SERVICE HOURS AT ACS. IN ADDITION TO CRIMINAL CODE VIOLATIONS, THE COURT HANDLES ADMINISTRATIVE ADJUDICATION HEARINGS RELATED TO ANIMAL CARE, PUBLIC SAFETY, FIRE SAFETY. THE FOCUS IS FOSTERING COMPLIANCE, CONTRIBUTING TO CLEAN, SECURE, AND LIVABLE NEIGHBORHOODS. THE MAJORITY OF CODE VIOLATIONS ARE FILED CIVILLY. THE COURT SERVES JUVENILES AGE 10 TO 16 REFERRED TO TRAFFIC AND NON-TRAFFIC OFFENSES ONLY.

THE COURT FOCUSES ON EDUCATION, ACCOUNTABILITY, WHILE ALSO CONSIDERING THE SAFETY OF THE COMMUNITY. WHEN POSSIBLE AND APPROPRIATE, THE COURT STRIVES TO HELP JUVENILES KEEP A CLEAN RECORD. WHEN SUMMONED TO COURT A JUVENILE MUST APPEAR IN PERSON WITH A PARENT OR GUARDIAN.

IF CHARGES ARE NOT CONTESTED, THE COURT TAILORS PROGRAMS TO MEET THE NEEDS.

THEY OVERSEE COURT ORDERS, OFFERING TEEN COURT PARTICIPATION, AND COMMUNITY SERVICE HOURS AND COUNSELING. THIS IS ACHIEVED THROUGH A COLLABORATION WITH COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND CITY DEPARTMENTS.

FOR EXAMPLE, THIS PAST SPRING AND SUMMER, 59 JUVENILE DEFENDANTS COMPLETED NEARLY 700 HOURS OF COMMUNITY SERVICE WITH PARKS AND REC.

THE COURT ALSO OPERATES A TEEN COURT, WHICH IS THE COLLABORATION WITH ST.

MARY'S UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF LAW. TEEN COURT HAS EXPANDED TO OPERATE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR EXCEPT JULY AND PARTICIPATION THIS LAST FISCAL YEAR WAS 60 DEFENDANT PARTICIPANTS, COMPARED TO 41 DEFENDANT PARTICIPANTS IN FISCAL YEAR '23. THERE WAS ALSO A 95% COMPLETION RATE FOR FISCAL YEAR '24. THE COURT SUPPORTS BEXAR COUNTY SCHOOLS BY ADDRESSING SCHOOL ATTENDANCE THROUGH THE TRUANCY PREVENTION AND INTERVENTION PROGRAM FOR AGE 4 THROUGH 18. IN FISCAL YEAR '24 THE COURT SUPPORTED NINE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND FIVE CHARTER SCHOOLS. THESE FIGURES REFLECT THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS AND FAMILIES SERVED THROUGH FORUMS, DIVERSIONARY AGREEMENTS, AND MEDIATIONS. THE JCMS PARTICIPATE IN TRAINING AND ALSO PLAN FOR THE NEXT SCHOOL YEAR. THE IMPROVEMENTS THEY IMPLEMENTED IN FISCAL YEAR '24 ARE REFLECTED IN THE INCREASED NUMBER OF STUDENTS SERVED AS COMPARED TO FISCAL YEAR '23. JCMS ALSO IMPLEMENTED A NEW INITIATIVE REFERRED TO

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TO ACCOMPLISH THIS, THE COURT HAS VARIOUS AWARENESS AND EDUCATION PROGRAMS AND PARTICIPATES IN COMMUNITY EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. WHILE I CAN'T COVER EVERY ACTIVITY THIS MORNING, YOU WILL RECEIVE A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT BOOKLET FOR FISCAL YEAR '24 THAT HIGHLIGHTS THE COURT'S EFFORTS.

I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS TIME TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW NEW PROGRAMS THAT THE COURT INITIATED THIS PAST YEAR. THE COURT FOCUSED ON WOMEN AND LAW, INTRODUCING YOUNG WOMEN TO CAREERS IN THE LEGAL FIELD. THE COURT ALSO HOSTED ITS SENIOR SUMMIT IN FEBRUARY. THE SUMMIT WAS A COLLABORATION WITH SAISD AND WAS DEDICATED TO SUPPORTING HIGH SCHOOL SENIORS FACING CHALLENGES IN COMPLETING THEIR EDUCATION. OF THE 117 SENIORS THAT ATTENDED, 109 GRADUATED, WHICH IS A 93% GRADUATION RATE. TO HIGHLIGHT THE HUMAN TOLL OF DISTRACTED DRIVING, KAREN SHARED HER STORY OF LOSING HER DAUGHTER EMILY TO A DISTRACTED DRIVER. THE PSA, MEET EMILY, IS STILL ACCESSIBLE ON THE COURT'S WEBSITE. AS PART OF THE 100 DEADLIEST DAYS OF SUMMER AUDIO] THE COURT HOSTED THE FOLLOWING EVENTS. IN MAY, JUDGES VISITED AREA HIGH SCHOOLS DURING LUNCH TO SPEAK DIRECTLY TO STUDENTS ABOUT SAFE DRIVING, OBTAINING A DRIVER'S LICENSE, THE DANGERS OF VAPING, AND THE IMPORTANCE OF ATTENDING SCHOOL REGULARLY. IN JUNE, THE COURT CELEBRATED THE OPENING OF THE DRIVE SAFELY SA EDUCATION AND RESOURCE CENTER. THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER THE COURT PARTNERED WITH TEXAS A&M AGRILIFE EXTENSION TO HOST DRIVER CLASSES. IT'S AIMED AT GUIDING DRIVERS 15 TO 25 TOWARDS SAFER DRIVING BEHAVIORS. SEPTEMBER MARKS ATTENDANCE AWARENESS MONTH AS PART OF THE COURT'S ATTENDANCE MATTERS INITIATIVE FOR SENIOR SUMMITS ARE SCHEDULED FOR THE FALL. AND NEW INITIATIVES THAT ARE PLANNED FOR FISCAL YEAR '25 INCLUDE ANOTHER PARTNERSHIP WITH TEXAS AGRILIFE EXTENSION. SILVER TEXANS IS AN EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM FOCUSED ON MATURE DRIVERS AGED 55 AND UP. THAT HURTS, BY THE WAY.

MATURE DRIVERS. I WILL SHARE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT SILVER TEXAS PROGRAMS WITH YOU SOON. ONE LAST THOUGHT, ON THE MORNING OF THE SENIOR SUMMIT, ONE OF THE SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS SAID TO ME, THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS. WE KEEP DOING THE SAME OLD THING AND WE EXPECT A DIFFERENT RESULT. SO THANK YOU FOR TRYING SOMETHING NEW.

I WANT TO THANK OUR INCREDIBLE COURT TEAM. NOTHING THAT FRED AND I SHARED WITH YOU TODAY WOULD BE POSSIBLE WITHOUT THEIR DEDICATION.

THEY CONSISTENTLY RISE TO THE CHALLENGE OF TRYING TO NEW APPROACHES TO IMPROVE PUBLIC SAFETY, PROMOTE SCHOOL ATTENDANCE, AND EDUCATE OUR COMMUNITY ON THE IMPORTANCE OF SAFE, CLEAN NEIGHBORHOODS. THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION, ALL THREE DEPARTMENTS.

I JUST HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR CLARIFICATION AND WE'LL GET RIGHT INTO COUNCIL DISCUSSION. COULD YOU GO TO SLIDE 17 OF THE PD PRESENTATION? CHIEF, WHAT DOES IT MEAN THERE, COMMUNICATION IS GRADE OF SERVICE?

>> CHIEF: SO THAT IS THE TIME IT TAKES US TO ANSWER A CALL WITHIN TEN SECONDS.

SO NINA -- WHAT IS IT CALLED? NATIONAL EMERGENCY NUMBER ASSOCIATION . AND THEIR STANDARD IS ANSWERING THE CALL WITHIN -- EMERGENCY CALL WITHIN 15 SECONDS. OURS IS 10.

SO WE TRY TO STAY ABOVE 90, BECAUSE THAT'S THE NENA STANDARD.

AND WE HAVE BEEN CONSISTENTLY ABOVE 90. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: OKAY.

SO LESS THAN 5% OF OUR FY24 CALLS ARE NOW MEETING THE STANDARD, ESSENTIALLY?

>> CHIEF: THAT'S CORRECT. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THE NUMBER OF --R OF CALLS RECEIVED FROM FY23 TO FY24?

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WE HAD 200,000. IS THAT WHERE WE ARE TODAY OR IS THAT AN ESTIMATE FOR

COMPLETION OF FY24? >> CHIEF: NO, THAT WAS BEFORE.

AND I DISCUSSED THAT WITH STAFF JUST YESTERDAY AND THIS MORNING AND WE DON'T HAVE A REASON FOR IT. WE'RE LOOKING AT IT AS AN ANOMALY.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: OKAY. >> VILLAGOMEZ: MAYOR, JUST TO CLARIFY YOUR QUESTIONS.

WE HAD 2.49 MILLION CALLS IN '23. WE HAD ESTIMATED 2.6.

HOWEVER, OUR ESTIMATE FOR '24 IS 2.29. AS CHIEF MENTIONED, WE HAVEN'T IDENTIFIED ANY ITEM IN PARTICULAR BUT THE CALLS ARE A LITTLE LOWER THAN LAST YEAR. BUT WE'RE ANTICIPATING GROWTH IN '25.

ABOVE THE '24 ESTIMATE. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: OKAY. I MEAN, SO YOU ONLY HAVE THEORIES THAT YOU'RE GOING ON IN TERMS OF WHY THE DROP IN CALLS.

ARE WE SEEING SIMILAR THINGS IN OTHER CITIES? >> CHIEF: I HAVEN'T COMPARED ANY OTHER CITIES. AGAIN, WE DISCUSSED THAT ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS WHY THE NUMBERS DROP. YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T COME UP WITH AN ANSWER FOR THAT.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: OKAY. WELL, ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE, WE WOULD SEE IT IN THE OVERALL CRIME STATISTICS, WHICH SEEM TO BE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO

KNOW IF YOU DO FIND -- >> VILLAGOMEZ: MAYOR, AND I FAILED TO MENTION THIS.

IF YOU NOTICE ON THE CALL DISPATCH, WE ARE DISPATCHING MORE CALLS THAN WE DISPATCHED IN -- WE'RE PRETTY MUCH FLAT WITH 2023 AND ANTICIPATING TO DISPATCH MORE CALLS IN '25. AS WE CONTINUE TO REVIEW THE CALLS, IT COULD HAVE BEEN MULTIPLE TRAFFIC INCIDENTS THAT WE GOT, YOU KNOW, HUNDREDS OF CALLS FOR THE SAME INCIDENT. BUT THE TOTAL CLOSED DISPATCH, WHEN WE SEND OFFICERS TO RESPOND TO CALLS IS PRETTY MUCH FLAT IN '24 COMPARED TO '23 AND GROWING

INTO '25. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, MARIA.

THANKS, CHIEF. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT BEFORE WE GOT INTO DISCUSSION. JUDGE OBLEDO, SIMILAR KINDS OF QUESTIONS.

SO I'M CURIOUS OF WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH OUR JUVENILE COURTS IN TERMS OF THE CLOSURE RATE, ALONG WITH THE NUMBER OF JUVENILE CASES. ACCORDING TO OUR BOOK HERE, THERE'S BEEN A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF JUVENILE CASES THAT HAVE

BEEN OPENED. IS THAT CORRECT? >> OBLEDO: YES, SIR.

THAT'S CORRECT. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: BUT OUR CASE COMPLETION RATE IS DOWN. SO WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE JUVENILE COURTS?

IF YOU COULD JUST KIND OF -- >> OBLEDO: ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE AS A COURT IS GETTING JUVENILES TO APPEAR IN COURT. AS I MENTIONED, THEY DO HAVE TO APPEAR IN PERSON AND THEY DO HAVE TO APPEAR IN PERSON WITH A PARENT OR GUARDIAN.

A LOT OF TIMES JUVENILES ARE RELYING ON A PARENT OR GUARDIAN TO BRING THEM TO COURT. SO THAT'S BEEN A CHALLENGE, TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO APPEAR IN COURT. OUR JUVENILE CASE MANAGERS ARE MAKING PHONE CALLS, SENDING TEXT MESSAGES, WHEN THEY CAN. IF THEY HAVE A GOOD CELL PHONE NUMBER TO THESE JUVENILES TO GET THEM TO COME TO COURT AND ALSO TO COMPLY WITH ANY REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE ORDERED BY THE COURT TO SATISFACTORILY COMPLETE DEFERRED. IT HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE BECAUSE OF THE RELIANCE ON PARENTS AND GUARDIANS TO DRIVE THEM TO AND FROM PLACES.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: IN A JUVENILE CASE, A FAILURE TO APPEAR, HOW DOES THAT GET

ESCALATED AND ULTIMATELY ADJUDICATED? >> OBLEDO: RIGHT NOW WE ARE NOT ISSUING WARRANTS. WE ARE DISCUSSING NEW STRATEGIES TO TRY TO IMPROVE THAT APPEARANCE RATE FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PERSONAL SERVICE TO JUVENILES, IF WE HAVE A GOOD ADDRESS.

IF THEY'RE IN SCHOOL, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ACTUALLY SERVING THEM IN SCHOOL AS

WELL TO TRY TO GET THEM TO APPEAR. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: WELL, I NOTED ALSO THAT SIMILAR IS THE ATTENDANCE ON THE TRUANCY CASES ALSO DOWN.

>> OBLEDO: SAME. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: SAME REASON.

>> OBLEDO: SAME ISSUES. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: SO WE DO DO FOLLOW-UP WITH THE

SCHOOLS? >> OBLEDO: WE DO. UH-HUH.

WE DO FOLLOW-UPS WITH THE SCHOOLS. AGAIN, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET INFORMATION FROM THE SCHOOLS AFTER, YOU KNOW, A MEDIATION OR EVEN THE SENIOR SUMMIT, IT WAS A CHALLENGE TO TRY TO GET INFORMATION ON HOW MANY KIDS GRADUATED.

WE WANTED TO KNOW HOW MANY KIDS GRADUATED IN JUNE AND THAT WAS KIND OF A CHALLENGE GETTING THAT INFORMATION. WHAT WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO GET IS, OF THE STUDENTS THAT

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BUT IT'S JUST BEEN A CHALLENGE TRYING TO GET THOSE NUMBERS FROM SCHOOL

ADMINISTRATORS. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: I WOULD HAVE EXPECTED THAT KIND OF TREND TO OCCUR TWO YEARS AGO OR ONE YEAR AGO. BUT IT'S JUST NOW SHOWING UP IN TERMS OF OUR ATTENDANCE AND CLOSURE OF THOSE TRUANCY CASES.

>> OBLEDO: RIGHT. AND, YOU KNOW, WE DID HAVE A RESTRUCTURING THIS LAST FISCAL YEAR OF DUTIES WITH REGARDS TO TRUANCY PREVENTION AND INTERVENTION.

REASSIGNMENTS FOR SCHOOLS. THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING MORE FAMILIES AND STUDENTS SERVED THIS LAST FISCAL YEAR. SO, YOU KNOW, WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE FURTHER IMPROVEMENTS. AS I MENTIONED, WE'RE ALSO FOCUSING ON A REENROLLMENT DOCKET BUT WE DON'T WANT STUDENTS TO GET TO THAT POINT WHERE THEY'RE NOT ENGAGED IN SCHOOL AT ALL. WE WANT TO CATCH THEM BEFORE

IT HAPPENS. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THAT REMAINS THE GOAL.

YOU MENTIONED INNOVATION AND IDEAS. I WOULD JUST, AGAIN, I APPRECIATE THAT AND I WOULD CONTINUE TO DO THAT. IF YOU THINK YOU NEED RESOURCES OR TOOLS THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO HELP IMPROVE THOSE RATES, YOU KNOW, AGAIN

THIS WOULD BE THE RIGHT BODY TO BRING IT. >> OBLEDO: ONE OF THE THINGS THAT JUVENILE SERVICES IS IN DESPERATE NEED OF IS A NEW CASE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. I THINK THAT THAT PROGRAM IS UNDER ITSD'S BUDGET SO WE WOULD APPRECIATE PASSAGE OF THAT. IT WOULD HELP TRY TO GET AND

KEEP ACCURATE DATA ON JUVENILES. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: I ASSUME THAT'S GOING TO BE TAKEN UP BY THE MUNICIPAL COURT COMMITTEE SOON.

>> OBLEDO: I THINK SO. I THINK COUNCILMAN MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ AND I CAN

TALK ABOUT THAT SOON. >>

IT'S IN FISCAL YEAR '25'S BUDGET. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: I WOULD SAY GETTING THE JUVENILE CASES TRENDING IN THE POSITIVE DIRECTION IS A HIGH PRIORITY FOR ME, I THINK FOR THE CITY AS WELL, SO WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO TO BE HELPFUL ON THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THAT'S IT.

I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY A COUPLE OF THINGS BEFORE WE MOVED ON.

WE'LL START WITH COUNCILMEMBER ALDERETE GAVITO.

>> GAVITO: THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'M GOING TO START OFF WITH THE POLICE PRESENTATION. THANKS SO MUCH FOR THIS AND ALL THE PRESENTATIONS.

OBVIOUSLY PUBLIC SAFETY IS A TOP PRIORITY OF MINE SO I'M COMMITTED TO PROVIDING THE NECESSARY FUNDING FOR OUR POLICE TO EFFECTIVELY CARRY OUT THEIR DUTIES.

I'M GLAD WE'RE ADDING THE ADDITIONAL 65 OFFICERS IN FISCAL YEAR 2025.

WOULD THEY BE PATROL OFFICERS OR SAFFE OFFICERS? >> CHIEF: PATROL.

AND THE BENEFIT OF PUTTING THEM IN PATROL IS IT GIVES -- AND I THINK WE TALKING ABOUT THIS BEFORE. IT GIVES PATROL MORE TIME TO DO SAFFE-TYPE WORK.

WE HAVE OVER A THOUSAND OFFICERS ON PATROL THAT WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO

SAFFE-LIKE WORK. >> GAVITO: I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW AREAS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE POLICE RESOURCES ALLOCATED TOWARDS. WE CONSTANTLY HEAR FROM RESIDENTS ABOUT THE ISSUE OF SPEEDING, NOT JUST IN DISTRICT 7 BUT ALL OVER THE CITY. I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT IS A TOP BUDGET PRIORITY. ANOTHER ISSUE WE'RE HEARING ABOUT ALL OVER THE CITY IS THE AMOUNT OF GUNSHOTS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. MANY TIMES RESIDENTS DON'T REPORT THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE WORRIED THAT NOTHING IS GOING TO GET DONE.

SO WHAT IS BEING DONE TO ADDRESS THIS PROBLEM FROM OUR POLICE FORCE?

>> CHIEF: WELL, GIVEN THE FACT THAT THE GUNSHOTS ARE BEING FIRED WHEN THERE'S NO POLICE AROUND, WE'LL TRY TO RECOVER SHELL CASINGS AND THEN WE RUN THEIR SHELL CASINGS AND TRY TO GET A HIT AND WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO TRACK SOMEBODY DOWN THAT WAY WHO OWNED THAT GUN OR WE HAVE A NAME TO IT. SINCE IT'S DONE WHEN NOBODY

IS AROUND, IT'S PRETTY TOUGH. >> GAVITO: WHEN Y'ALL ARE GETTING THE SHELL CASINGS, ARE YOU ABLE TO CATCH ANYBODY THAT WAY?

>> CHIEF: WE IDENTIFY SUSPECTS EVERY NOW AND THEN BUT THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT IT'S LIKE A FINGERPRINT PROGRAM. SO EVERY SHELL CASING HAS A FINGERPRINT TO IT. NOT A REAL FINGERPRINT BUT IDENTIFICATION MARKS MADE BY THE GUN. AND THAT GOES INTO A DATABASE.

JUST LIKE A FINGERPRINT, WE CAN RUN THOSE SHELL CASINGS AND COME UP, IF WE HAVE A GUN THAT'S BEEN USED IN A NUMBER OF OTHER CRIMES OR WE RECOVERED SHELL CASINGS THAT HAVE BEEN USED, THAT HAVE BEEN SHOT BEFORE, THEN WE MAY AT SOME POINT BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THE INDIVIDUAL THAT IS IN POSSESSION OF THAT GUN.

BUT AS FAR AS THOSE SHOTS BEING FIRED, THAT'S COMMON. I CHECKED WITH CHIEFS AROUND

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>> GAVITO: YEAH. I'M EXCITED THAT METRO HEALTH IS GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THIS TOO. BUT AND I DO WANT TO PRAISE COUNCILMAN COURAGE FOR HIS INITIATIVE TO GET GUNS OFF THE STREET. I DO THINK THAT THAT HELPS.

BUT THERE'S JUST A LOT OF WORK TO DO THERE. ANOTHER TOP ISSUE THAT WE HEAR ABOUT IS PROPERTY CRIMES. SPECIFICALLY AROUND MAIL THEFT. WE'VE HEARD FROM SAPD THAT THESE CASES ARE DIFFICULT TO CLOSE AND PROSECUTE BECAUSE OF LACK OF EVIDENCE. WE'VE HEARD THAT UNLESS SOMEONE'S CAUGHT COMMITTING THE CRIME OR THE MAIL IS RECOVERED, IT'S DIFFICULT TO IDENTIFY A SUSPECT. COULD THE DEPARTMENT BENEFIT FROM ADDITIONAL RESOURCES TO

HELP ADDRESS THIS PROBLEM? >> CHIEF: WELL, I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT YOUR MEETING LAST WEEK. BY PUTTING ADDITIONAL LIGHTING AND POSSIBLY CAMERAS IN THE AREAS OF THOSE CLUSTER BOXES. BUT UNLESS WE HAVE INFORMATION BEFOREHAND THAT THEY'RE GOING TO TARGET THEM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT

GOING TO BE DOING IT WHEN THERE ARE POLICE VISIBLE. >> GAVITO: AND WE'RE WORKING ON JUST INCREASING THE LIGHTING AROUND THE MAILBOXES.

BUT, YEAH, IT'S VERY REACTIVE. I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THE REVENUE CHANGES, INCLUDING THE FEES FOR FALSE ALARMS AND FEES FOR PARKING VIOLATIONS IN SCHOOL ZONES. I DID HAVE JUST TWO MORE QUESTIONS FOR POLICE.

IN REGARDS TO THE DOWNTOWN CAMERA PROJECT, WHAT WILL PHASE 1 ENTAIL?

>> CHIEF: SO PHASE 1 ARE CAMERAS BEING POSTED ON COMMERCE BETWEEN NORTH ALAMO AND ST. MARY'S. AND WE WILL WORK WITH BUSINESS OWNERS TO TRY AND INCORPORATE THEIR CAMERAS AS WELL. AND ONCE WE DO THAT, IN AUDIO] FULL-TIME, OR AS FULL-TIME AS WE CAN GET, BASED ON THE PERSONNEL WE NEED. AND IT WILL INCREASE OUR RESPONSE TIMES.

IT WILL INCREASE OUR ABILITY TO RESPOND TO SITUATIONS WITHIN THAT AREA THAT MAY REQUIRE SOME TYPE OF TRASH CLEANUP OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE.

IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE CRIME. BUT THINGS THAT MAY DEGRADE

THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN THOSE FIVE BLOCKS. >> GAVITO: SO THEN THE PHASES ARE JUST GOING TO BE BLOCKS BY BLOCKS. SO PHASE 2 WILL BE

ADDITIONAL BLOCKS OF DOWNTOWN. >> CHIEF: PHASE 1 WILL BE AN EVALUATION PERIOD AND WE'LL EXPAND FROM THERE, DEPENDING UPON WHAT WE

EVALUATE IN THAT FIRST PHASE. >> GAVITO: GOTCHA.

THANK YOU. ALSO, TOO, I KNOW THAT THE SA CORE TEAM WASN'T A PART OF THE PRESENTATION BUT OBVIOUSLY IT IS A NEEDED SERVICE AND I'M GLAD WE'RE MOVING TOWARDS 24/7 COVERAGE. I KNOW THAT WE DISCUSSED BEFORE THE OPTION OF WHEN PEOPLE CALL 9-1-1 THERE'S AN OPTION FOR A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS, LIKE IF THEY'RE HAVING A ME MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS TO CLICK OPTION 3.

DO WE HAVE A TIMELINE ON WHEN THAT COULD BE IMPLEMENTED?

>> CHIEF: IF I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION RIGHT -- AND WE HAVE ALREADY STARTED THIS -- IT IS A MENTAL HEALTH CALL, THE FIRST UNIT WE WILL DISPATCH IF THERE IS NO VIOLENCE INVOLVED AND THE CALL TAKER DEEMS IT APPROPRIATE.

WE WILL DISPATCH A CORE UNIT. IF THERE IS NO MENTAL HEALTH

UNIT AVAILABLE, IT WILL BE A PATROL OFFICER. >> GAVITO: I WAS TALKING FROM A RESIDENT'S PERSPECTIVE. IF I'M CALLING 9-1-1 AND I KNOW IT'S A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS. YOU CALL OPTION 1 FOR EMERGENCY, OPTION 2 FOR NON-EMERGENCY, OPTION 3 FOR MENTAL HEALTH.

>> VILLAGOMEZ: WE ARE EVALUATING THAT ALTERNATIVE. YOU MAY RECALL THAT THERE'S A 988 NUMBER AVAILABLE SO WE'RE LOOKING AT BOTH IN IN TERMS OF TIMELINE, WE BELIEVE WE WILL HAVE A RECOMMENDATION IN PROBABLY BY MARCH OF 2025 AS IT REQUIRES ADDITIONAL RESOURCES. THE TEAM IS LOOKING AT OTHER CITIES, LIKE THE CITY OF AUSTIN, FOR INSTANCE, HAS IMPLEMENTED THAT.

WE'LL REPORT TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. >> GAVITO: PERFECT.

THANK YOU, MARIA. AS PREVIOUSLY STATED, PUBLIC SAFETY IS A TOP PRIORITY FOR BOTH RESIDENTS AND MYSELF AND I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS POLICE BUDGET.

THANKS SO MUCH, CHIEF. I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR FIRE.

ALSO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION AND I ALSO DID WANT TO START OFF BY THANKING EVERYONE INVOLVED IN THE FIRE CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS.

I'M GLAD WE'RE ABLE TO REACH A TENTATIVE DEAL WITH OUR FIREFIGHTERS.

IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE COMPENSATE OUR FIRST RS IN SUCH A WAY

THAT THEY FEEL VALUED AND >> GAVITO: I DID HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

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>> SURE. SO IT STARTED OFF WITH A -- IT'S A LONG PROCESS. IT STARTS OFF WITH A GROSS BILLING INITIALLY, AND THAT'S EVERY BILLABLE TRANSPORT. AND THAT'S USUALLY PRETTY HIGH. AND THEN WE GO THROUGH A SERIES OF ADJUSTMENTS THAT THE -- REDUCTIONS, SUBTRACTIONS FOR MEDICARE/MEDICAID, ADVANTAGE PLANS, IF YOU'RE DECEASED, HOMELESS, AND THEN ANY OTHER ADJUSTMENTS, CHARITY CARE. AND THEN YOU END UP WITH A NET BILLING.

AND SO PERCENTAGES, I WOULD SAY OF COLLECTIONS WERE PROBABLY ABOUT -- FROM THE NET RATE, THE NET BILLABLE OF ABOUT 67%, BUT GROSS COLLECTIONS, ONCE ALL THE WRITEOFFS AND ALL THAT IS TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT, WE'RE AT 30%. SO IT'S NOT -- NOT -- I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

>> GAVITO: OKAY. THAT'S INTERESTING. THANKS.

THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION. REFERRING TO SLIDE 16, THE REPLACEMENT OF STATION 10 IN DISTRICT 7 IS NEEDED AND WE'RE EXTREMELY EXCITED TO MAKE THAT PROJECT HAPPEN. OBVIOUSLY RIGHT NOW IT ENTERS INTO CULEBRA ROAD WHICH CAN IMPACT RESPONSE TIME, AND I KNOW THE FIREFIGHTERS HAVE OUTGROWN THAT PLACE. I'M JUST CURIOUS IF WE

HAVE A TIMELINE FOR THAT PROJECT? >> AGAIN, WE'RE WORKING WITH PUBLIC REAL ESTATE. WE HAD A COUPLE DEALS, AS YOU RECALL, AND SO WE'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF LOOKING FOR PROPERTY THAT THE CITY CAN PURCHASE AND

PUT THE NEW STATION ON. >> GAVITO: SO NO TIMELINE.

>> NO TIMELINE. AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. IT'S -- YEAH.

>> WALSH: YEAH, WE'VE GONE -- AT THE SAME FOR FIRE STATION 33, WHERE WE'VE IDENTIFIED REALLY IDEAL PROPERTIES FOR BOTH, BUT FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO PURCHASE THOSE PROPERTIES.

BUT GIVEN THE CONDITIONS OF BOTH THOSE FACILITIES, WE NEED TO HAVE -- WE NEED TO HAVE PROPERTY IDENTIFIED BY THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR TO

STAY ON TRACK. >> GAVITO: OKAY. THANK YOU.

THAT'S RECALL I HAVE. THANKS, MAYOR. THANKS, COUNCILMEMBER ALDARETE GAVITO. COUNCILMEMBER ROCHA GARCIA?

>> GARCIA: THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY FOR TODAY'S PRESENTATIONS. I APPRECIATE IT.

I'LL START OFF WITH SAPD. AND WHILE CHIEF COMES UP, THIS MIGHT BE LIKE A FOLLOW-UP, MARIA, AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF WE HAVE HOW MANY GRANTS, GRANT AMOUNTS, AND JUST OVERALL -- I'M LOOKING TO SEE THE AWARDING OF GRANTS SINCE 2015. AND SO WHAT WE HAVE -- I KNOW THAT'S LATER, SO IF YOU CAN -- THANK YOU. AND THEN, CHIEF, ON THE 100 OR SO -- THERE'S 360 POSITIONS TO BE FILLED OVER THREE TO FIVE YEARS. THERE'S -- DO WE KNOW ALREADY, DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA AS TO WHERE THE 65 THAT WE'RE HIRING FOR THIS COMING YEAR ARE GOING? HOW DO YOU ALLOCATE THOSE?

>> CHIEF: SPECIFICALLY NO, BUT THEY WILL GO TO PATROL IN ONE OF THE

SUBSTATIONS. >> GARCIA: OKAY. WONDERFUL.

WE HAVE 100 THIS YEAR, WE HAVE 65 IN THE COMING -- WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER 195. WHEN DO YOU ANTICIPATE FILLING THOSE?

>> CHIEF: WE ARE RUNNING FIVE CLASSES A YEAR, AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET THIS -- THE CLASS THAT STARTS ON SEPTEMBER 9 WILL HAVE 73 NEW CADETS IN IT. SO WE'RE TRYING TO MEASURE THOSE NUMBERS FOR EACH CLASS SO THAT WILL COME UP WITH THAT THREE 60 NUMBER.

>> GARCIA: HOW MANY -- I KNOW IT'S NOT TOO MANY THAT DROP OFF, BUT OUT OF THE ONES THAT ENTER THE ACADEMY, HOW MANY ACTUALLY GRADUATE?

>> CHIEF: THERE'S TYPICALLY ABOUT 25% WASHOUT RATE ON THE HIGH

END. >> GARCIA: WASHOUT RATE. OKAY.

PERFECT. AND HOW MANY -- ARE YOU ALSO TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE RETIREMENTS ANNUALLY? LIKE HOW DO YOU TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AS TO HOW MANY MORE YOU NEED TO RECRUIT?

>> CHIEF: THE RETIREMENTS -- OR THE ATTRITION RATE IS IN ADDITION TO THE NEW POSITIONS THAT WE'LL HIRE.

AND WE JUST HIRE THAT MANY MORE. WE PRETTY MUCH HAVE BEEN TRYING TO PUT A MAXIMUM AMOUNT IN THE CLASS. THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT THAT WE CAN RUN THROUGH AN ACADEMY AT ONE TIME IN A CLASS IS ABOUT 75ISH.

AND THAT'S PUSHING THE -- THAT'S REALLY PUSHING IT.

THEY'RE WORKING IN OVERDRIVE AT THE ACADEMY WITH FIVE CLASSES AND MAX NUMBER IN THE MOST RECENT CLASS. OVER THE LAST YEAR OR SO, WE'VE BEEN AVERAGING AROUND -- SOMEWHERE AROUND MAYBE 45-ISH IN

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EACH CLASS. >> GARCIA: GOT IT. AND THEN HOW DO YOU KNOW -- FOR THOSE POLICE OFFICERS WHO SEPARATE -- WELL, I GUESS I WOULD BE LOOKING FOR BOTH VOLUNTARY AND INVOLUNTARY.

SO I'D LOVE TO SEE JUST NUMBERS AND MAYBE 2015 ALSO, WE'LL JUST KEEP IT AT THAT. BUT IN PARTICULAR, THE ONES THAT SEPARATE VOLUNTARILY. LIKE DO WE DO EXIT INTERVIEWS?

LIKE DO WE KNOW WHY THEY'RE LEAVING? >> CHIEF: WE DO.

MOST OF THEM LEAVE FOR ECONOMIC REASONS. THEY'RE AT THEIR MAX

FINANCIALLY. >> GARCIA: OKAY. ON THE 360, BACK TO THE QUESTION ABOUT -- ALSO ACCOUNTING FOR THE SOUTH FLORES SUBSTATION AND STAFFING THAT ONE

FULLY? >> CHIEF: YES, MA'AM. >> GARCIA: OKAY.

SO, YES. >> VILLAGOMEZ: SO IT WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO -- I'M SORRY. COUNCILWOMAN, IN ADDITION TO THE 365, WE WOULD HAVE TO ADD ROUGHLY ABOUT -- I THINK IT'S 22 OR 27 FOR THE SOUTH FLORES WHEN WE

OPEN THAT STATION. >> GARCIA: OKAY. WONDERFUL.

THANK YOU. AND THEN FOR THE DOWNTOWN CAMERA PROJECT -- AND THANK YOU, AGAIN, FOR COMING IN TO THE MEETING THE OTHER DAY.

I WAIT WAS, I THINK, CRITICAL TO HAVE THE DOWNTOWN STAKEHOLDERS, DO WE KNOW WHAT THE PROJECT COST FOR THOSE CAMERAS FOR PHASE 1? AND THEN THE FUNDING SOURCE ALSO? I WAS WONDERING IF IT'S GOING TO BE COVERED THROUGH TIRZ OR THROUGH PID OR WHAT IT'S GOING TO

BE COVERED THROUGH? >> VILLAGOMEZ: SURE. SO THERE'S TWO COMPONENTS TO THE PROJECT, COUNCILWOMAN. THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT IN WHAT WE HAVE. THIS IS AN I.T. PROJECT, SO THE CAMERAS, SO THERE'S $250,000 IN THE I.T. BUDGET TO ADDRESS PHASE 1.

THE MONITORING OF THE CAMERAS IS AN OPERATING COST, AND THAT IS A PARTNERSHIP THAT WE HAVE WITH CENTRO, AND THEY'RE CONSIDERING PARTICIPATING FINANCIALLY TO BE ABLE TO MONITOR THE CAMERAS.

TO MONITOR THE CAMERAS 24/7, 365 DAYS A YEAR IS ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS.

SO CENTRO IS GOING THROUGH THEIR PROCESS TO SEE WHAT THEY CAN SUPPORT, AND BASED ON THAT SUPPORT WILL DICTATE THE MONITORING OF THESE CAMERAS FOR PHASE 1. AND THEN, OF COURSE, AS THE CHIEF MENTIONED, THIS IS THE EVALUATION PERIOD. WE CURRENTLY HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THE PROVIDER THAT PROVIDES THE BODY CAM AND THE IN-CAR VIDEO THAT HAS THESE CAMERAS, SO WE'LL BE USING THAT EXISTING CONTRACT TO DO THAT. BUT ONCE THE EVALUATION PERIOD IS OVER, THERE MAY BE ADDITIONAL COSTS THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS.

>> GARCIA: GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MARIA.

I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THE CAMERAS. A LONG, LONG TIME AGO I GUN POINT, SO TO ME, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN LIKE WHY DON'T WE HAVE CAMERAS.

AS PEOPLE START FEELING LIKE THEY NEED SOME ADDITIONAL SECURITY, SO I'M SO GLAD THAT WE'RE DOING THIS FINALLY. ON THE MENTAL HEALTH, I HAD ASKED ABOUT THE APP THAT THE FIREFIGHTERS USED VERSUS THE ONES THAT POLICE USES. AND I WAS WONDERING IF WE HAVE ANY MORE INFORMATION ON THAT AND THE DIFFERENCES ON THAT? THE MENTAL HEALTH APP.

>> CHIEF: I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE INFORMATION ON THAT APP, COUNCILMEMBER.

>> GARCIA: NO PROBLEM. SO I'D LOVE TO JUST SEE THE COMPARISON, LIKE WHAT ONE DOES VERSUS WHAT ANOTHER DOES, RIGHT? BUT THAT CAN BE FOR A FOLLOW-UP DISCUSSION, DON'T WORRY. AND THEN -- AND, CHIEF, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'M APPRECIATING -- AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT GOAL FOR PROACTIVITY 60% AND REACTIVE -- OR RESPONSE TIME 40%.

THIS WEEKEND, THERE WAS AN INCIDENT AT MY CHURCH PARISH AT THE FESTIVAL, AND SO YOU ALL RESPONDED VERY FAST. WE ARE IN CHURCH PARISH VEST FAFESTIVAL TIME? AND I TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY TO TELL THE PEOPLE LOOK, WE WE HAVE SAFE OFFICERS, I GAVE A PLUG TO THE SAFE OFFICER US BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES OUT THERE EVERY SINGLE DAY. I WANTED TO MAKE GREATER AWARENESS ON THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF THE ONLY WAY THAT SOME NONPROFITS, SOME SCHOOLS, RIGHT, RAISE FUNDS. AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO ANYTHING THAT WE CAN TO HAVE THOSE SAFE OFFICERS BE AWARE THAT THESE THINGS GOING ON. AND THEN ON THE -- EXCITED ABOUT THE COVERT OPERATIONS PART. I MENTIONED THIS LAST WEEK. WHAT WOULD -- MAYBE CAN YOU HELP ME ALSO -- OUR RESIDENTS, LIKE THEY'LL SEND PICTURES, THEY'LL SEND VIDEOS, ET CETERA.

AND SO WHAT'S THE INVESTIGATION PROCESS LIKE ONCE THEY SEND

THOSE? >> CHIEF: IF WE CAN IDENTIFY THE OWNER OF A VEHICLE, THEN THAT'S THE NEXT STEP IS INVESTIGATING THAT

PARTICULAR CRIME. >> GARCIA: SO THE GOAL IS, LIKE, TAKE A PICTURE

OF THE LICENSE PLATE? >> CHIEF: SURE. >> GARCIA: AND SO IN THE

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MANY HAVE BEEN FILED DO YOU HAVE THAT -- >> CHIEF: I DON'T KNOW

THAT OFF THE TON OF MY HEAD. >> GARCIA: MAYBE THAT'S A NUMBER WE CAN FOLLOW-UP. THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHIEF, THAT'S ALL FOR YOU.

I'LL MOVE ON TO FIRE NOW. AND THANK YOU.

THE ENHANCED SQUAD THAT YOU ALL PUT TOGETHER IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET, ERIK REFERENCED THIS, IN PARTICULAR TO THE RESPONSE OF THE CLOSING OF TEXAS VISTA, YOU ALL WERE GOING TO BE MEASURING SOME NUMBERS AND CHECKING THE DATA. HAS THAT BEEN ANALYZED YET? ARE WE SEEING THAT THERE'S INCREASED RESPONSE TIME OR DELAYS

GETTING TO THE HOSPITAL? >> CHIEF HOOD: WE'LL HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU WITH THAT. I WILL SAY, THOUGH, THAT WITH THE ADDITION OF OUR FULL-TIME MEDIC UNIT, SO IF YOU RECALL, WE HAD ADDED SOME -- SOME PEAK TIME MEDIC UNIT HOURS FOR -- FOR PEAK 21, THE ONE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. WITH THE ADDITION OF THE NEW -- WITH THE MEDIC UNIT, MEDIC 40. IT HAD BEEN WORKING FULL-TIME WITH PEAK HOURS, SO NOW WE'LL HAVE MORE PEAK HOURS. THE PEAK HOUR BUDGET IS THE SAME, SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO PUT MORE PEAK TIME FOR THAT PARTICULAR UNIT AND MAKE IT 100%. IT WILL BE A FULL-TIME PEAK BASICALLY.

IT'S PRETTY CLOSE NOW, BUT IN OUR PEAK BUDGET, WE'LL HAVE THE

OPPORTUNITY TO ADD PEAK HOURS TO THAT. >> WALSH: SO LET ME JUST SAY THAT IN ONE SENTENCE, THERE'S A -- THERE'S GOING TO BE A FULL-TIME

EMS UNIT AT 21. >> GARCIA: PERFECT. >> WALSH: BECAUSE WHETHER IT'S OVERTIME STAFFED OR REGULAR, IT'S A FULL-TIME, AND THAT'S

WHAT THE CHIEF IS DESCRIBING. >> GARCIA: WONDERFUL.

CHIEF PLANNING ZONE FOUR AAND. >> NIAND 19.

WHERE IS THOSE? >> CHIEF: FIRE STATION 4 IS RIGHT ACROSS FROM CENTRAL CATHOLIC, DOWNTOWN AND FIRE STATION 19 IS THERE AT VANCE

JACKSON AND I-10. >> GARCIA: I THOUGHT IT WAS DIFFERENT.

YOU CALLED IT PLANNING ZONE. >> CHIEF: THE PLANNING ZONE IS BASICALLY THE SAME NUMBER. SO PLANNING ZONE 4 IS --

I APPRECIATE IT. 80% OF YOUR -- >> CHIEF: IT'S ALL TYPE OF INCIDENTS, AND THE UNIT RESPONSES AS WELL, SO THAT'S ANYBODY THAT RESPONDS TO IT. SO WE CAN HAVE -- WE HAVE FIRE ONLY, MEDICAL CALLS, FOR ONLY AN ENGINE OR A LADDER TRUCK OR A SQUAD RESPONDS TO, SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A MEDIC UNIT IS RESPONDING TO THOSE MEDICAL CALLS.

>> GARCIA: AND I'M STILL WORRIED ON SLIDE 13 INCREASING FROM 500 TO 1500, BUT I'LL CHIME BACK IN FOR THAT ONE. SO.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHIEF. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

>> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER ROCHA GARCIA.

COUNCILMEMBER CASTILLO? >> CASTILLO: THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATIONS. ONE OF THE FREQUENT PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERNS WE OFTEN HEAR AND WE HEARD AT THE TOWN HALL ARE REGARDING SHOTS FIRED. I UNDERSTAND THERE'S LIMITATIONS WITH THE STATE, BUT I'M PLEASED TO SEE IN REGARDS TO -- TO THE -- TO THE NUMBER OF FIREARMS RECOVERED, THAT THERE'S BEEN AN INCREASE.

SO I'M PLEASED TO SEE THAT INCREASE THERE. FOR EXAMPLE, AT OUR BUDGET TOWN HALL, AND I WANT TO THANK THE DEPUTY CHIEF FOR TAKING CARE OF THAT ISSUE FOR US. A RESIDENT EXPRESSED THAT THE GUNSHOTS ARE SO BAD THAT HE HAS BAGS OF BULLETS, AND IF WE'RE DOING SHELL COLLECTIONS, HE MAY NOT BE REPORTING IT TO 9-1-1, BUT, TWO, HOW CAN WE GET WITH HELP TO COLLECT THOSE BAGS OS SHELL CASINGS THAT HE'S STATED THAT HE'S HAD.

AGAIN, I RECOGNIZE THAT THERE'S LEMT LIMITATIONS THAT WE'RE OPERATING OFF THE ACCESS TO FIREARMS THANKS TO THE STATE.

I'M GLAD TO SEE WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING ON THE ILLEGAL COVERT DUMPING ISSUE, AND ACKNOWLEDGING THAT IT'S A CRIME.

IT'S ILLEGAL AND THERE'S GOING TO BE ENFORCEMENT. I'M GRATEFUL FOR OUR SAFE OFFICERS THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENT AT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETINGS SHARING SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO DETER FROM COMMITTING THAT CRIME. THEY CATCH FOLKS WITH TRUCKS AND THEN THEY LEAVE. THEY'RE NOT ACTUALLY COMMITTING THE CRIMES, BUT NONETHELESS, IT'S NOT GARBAGE BEING DUMPED IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, SO WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THAT. I KNOW THAT LAST YEAR WE WORKED TO SECURE A BUDGET LINE ITEM FOR [INDISCERNIBLE]. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE SUPPORTED? YES? OKAY. WONDERFUL. OFFLINE, I WOULD LIKE AN UPDATE ON THE REGIONAL AUTOMOTIVE TASK FORCE. LAST BUDGET I HAD ASKED IF THE CITY WOULD RESEARCH AND CONSIDER JOINING SUIT AGAINST SOME OF THE AUTO MAKERS FOR THE COST AND POLICE TIME RESPONDING TO THESE CALLS.

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WHATEVER Y'ALL MAY HAVE, I'D LIKE TO REVIEW. >> CHIEF MCMANUS: YES,

MA'AM. >> CASTILLO: AND IN REGARDS TO THE DOWNTOWN CAMERA PROJECT, THANK YOU FOR WATCH WALKING US THROUGH THE COST WITH THAT. UNFORTUNATELY, I TOO, HAVE BEEN ASSAULTED DOWNTOWN AND I DON'T THINK CAMERAS WOULD HAVE PREVENTED THE CRIME FROM HAPPENING, MAY HAVE HELPED FROM CATCHING, ACCOUNTABILITY, BUT NOT PREVENTING THE CRIME FROM HAPPENING. A CONCERN THAT I HAVE WITH THIS PIECE, HAVE WE DECIDED IF WE'RE GOING TO USE AI SOFTWARE, AND WHO'S GOING TO SET THE METRICS IN WHICH WE'RE GOING TO BE SURVEILLING?

>> CHIEF MCMANUS: THE INTENT IS TO USE AI SOFTWARE, AND THE A AI SOFT CARE AND THE ANALYTICS WILL BE SET BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

>> CASTILLO: IF I HEARD CORRECTLY, IT WOULD BE BOTH PD AND CENTRO

MONITORING THE FOOTAGE? >> CHIEF MCMANUS: NO, IT WOULD BE PD.

>> CASTILLO: THANK YOU. I HAD CONCERN IF IT WAS GOING TO BE BOTH, AND I DO HAVE QUESTIONS AROUND WILL CENTRO ALSO HAVE ACCESS TO THAT DATA OR WILL IT BE SPECIFICALLY PD AND WHAT WILL THE PROCESS BE IF CENTRO

REQUESTS TO REVIEW THAT DATA. >> CHIEF MCMANUS: WE WOULD HAVE TO COME UP WITH POLICIES ON EXACTLY HOW THAT DATA'S TO BE MANAGED. HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO BE MAINTAINED AND THAT SORT

OF THING. >> CASTILLO: AS WELL AS IF WE CAN HAVE DATA ON INCIDENTS AND CALLS MADE WITHIN THESE CORRIDORS. AND I RAISE THIS BECAUSE EVERY BUDGET TOWN HALL, EVEN THIS RECENT ONE, FOLKS ASK FOR CAMERAS, AND THE RESPONSE THEY GET FROM LEADERSHIP IS NO, RIGHT, THAT THEY DON'T WORK. WE'VE TRIED IT WITH THE GUNSHOT THING, AND I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHY THAT THE BUSINESS COMMUNITIES ASKING FOR IT, WE SUDDENLY HAVE I.T. FUNDING TO HELP MATERIALIZE THIS REQUEST, SO IF WE CAN GET THE CAUSE FOR THE AREA IN WHICH THESE CAMERAS ARE GOING TO BE INSTALLED, I'D LIKE TO RECEIVE THAT

DATA. >> CHIEF MCMANUS: YES, MA'AM.

>> CASTILLO: IN TERMS OF THE PILOT, WAS THIS SOMETHING THAT PD IDENTIFIED AS A HOT SPOT OR AN AREA OF VIOLENT CRIME TO RECOMMEND THIS,

OR WAS THIS BROUGHT FORTH BY CENTRO? >> CHIEF MCMANUS: NO, IT WAS AN AREA THAT WE PULLED CAD DATA FROM TO SEE WHERE MOST CALLS WERE

COMING FROM. >> CASTILLO: ZERO S SO THIS WAS PROPOSED BY

PD? >> CHIEF MCMANUS: YES, MA'AM.

>> CASTILLO: I HAVE A CONCERN THAT THIS IS A SLIPPERY SLOPE IN REGARDS TO FREEDOM OF ACTION. I UNDERSTAND THAT CRIME DOES OCCUR AND IT MAY SERVE AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO BACK AND IDENTIFY, BUT I BELIEVE INDIVIDUALS SHOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE FREELY WITHOUT SURVEILLANCE, THAT'S JUST A PRINCIPLE THAT I HAVE ON MY CIVIL LIBERTIES THAT I'M JUST HESITANT TO BE FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS ITEM, BUT I UNDERSTAND THE REASONS IN WHICH YOU ARE EXPLORING THIS PILOT.

IN REGARDS TO REPLICATING THIS PILOT, I KNOW OUR CONSTITUENTS ARE GOING TO BE ASKING FOR THIS, SEEING THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEING INITIATED HERE. WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE QUALIFICATION TO POTENTIALLY REPLICATE THIS IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY?

>> CHIEF MCMANUS: I THINK IT WOULD BE THE SAME AS THE FIRST PHASE 1, WHERE THE CALLS COME FROM MOST. AND WE WOULD JUST PULL

THAT DATA FROM OUR CAD. >> CASTILLO: SO IF THAT PART OF DOWNTOWN A HOT

SPOT WHERE THIS PILOT'S GOING TO BE INITIATED? >> CHIEF MCMANUS: I DON'T KNOW I'D REFER TO IT AS A HOT SPOT, BUT IT'S WHERE THE MOST CALLS COME FROM,

THAT FIVE-BLOCK AREA. >> CASTILLO: SO IT DIDN'T QUALIFY AS A CITY PD HOT

SPOT. >> CHIEF MCMANUS: THE PD HOT SPOT FOR THE UTSA VIOLENT CRIME PROGRAM WAS SPECIFICALLY VIOLENT CRIME.

>> CASTILLO: UH-HUH. I WOULD HOPE IF WE'RE TAKING THESE STEPS, THAT IT WOULD BE AN AREA OF VIOLENT CRIME. BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS BEING RECOMMENDED BY CENTRO -- OR YOU'RE WORKING WITH CENTRO, RATHER, BUT MY CONCERN IS IF WE HAVE A VIOLENT CRIME INITIATIVE AND THIS DOESN'T -- THIS IS NOT A VIOLENT CRIME AREA, THEN WHY THESE EXTREME

MEASURES OF SURVEILLANCE? >> CHIEF MCMANUS: I THINK THE -- THERE ARE MORE QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES DOWN THERE THAN VIOLENT -- I KNOW THERE ARE MORE QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES THAN VIOLENT CRIME

DOWN THERE. AND THE IDEA IS TO -- >> CASTILLO: WHAT ARE

SOME OF THE EXAMPLES OF QUALITY OF LIFE. >> CHIEF MCMANUS: WELL, YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE GATHERING ON THE CORNER WHOSE ARE DRINKING AND YOU HAVE PEOPLE -- TRASH THAT'S GATHERING -- THAT'S ACCUMULATING IN CERTAIN AREAS. AND IT'S NOT JUST FOR CRIME, IT'S FOR ISSUES THAT, AGAIN, DEGRADE THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN THAT AREA, BUT IT'S NOT

SPECIFICALLY VIOLENT CRIME. >> CASTILLO: THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. AND JUST GIFEN THAT IT'S LOITERING AND LITTERING, I FEEL LIKE SURVEILLANCE IS A BIT EXTREME OF A MEASURE, GIVEN THAT WE DO HAVE THE UTSA HOT SPOT INITIATIVE. BUT THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS ON THAT ISSUE. I WANTED TO SHIFT OVER TO FIRE.

THANK YOU, CHIEF. >> CHIEF MCMANUS: YES, MA'AM.

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>> CASTILLO: SIMILAR TO MY COLLEAGUE, EXTREMELY GRATEFUL FOR BOTH CITY LEADERSHIP AND FIREFIGHTER LEADERSHIP FOR WORKING TOWARDS A FAIR CONTRACT. DISTRICT FIVE SENIORS, ESPECIALLY AROUND THE EXTREME HOT AND COLD ARE EXTREMELY WORRIED ABOUT FIRES IN VACANT LOTS AND VACANT STRUCTURES. WITH THAT, WE TYPICALLY WORK WITH YOUR TEAM TO HELP CONNECT SENIORS TO FIRE ALARMS. AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE FIRE

ALARMS ARE DONATION BASE, IS THAT CORRECT? >> CHIEF: THAT'S

CORRECT. >> CASTILLO: AND DO WE KNOW WHEN WE INTEND TO RECEIVE MORE DONATIONS TO HELP REPLENISH THAT FUND TO CONNECT MORE

INDIVIDUALS TO -- >> CHIEF: WE DO HAVE SOME BUDGETED.

THERE'S A BUDGET AMOUNT, BUT THE MAJORITY IS THROUGH DONATIONS.

AND THEY'RE REPLENISHED AS WE NEED THEM. SO AS THE SUPPLY GOES DOWN -- WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE TOO MANY IN STOCK, BECAUSE AS SOON AS WE GET THEM, THEY START TO AGE. SO THE WAY THAT THE NEW ONES ARE, THEY HAVE 10-YEAR BATTERIES, AND SO WE DON'T WANT THEM TO HAVE -- SIT ON A SHELF, BASICALLY. SO WE'RE PURCHASING THEM ON AN AS-NEEDED BASIS.

>> CASTILLO: THAT MAKES SENSE, I JUST WANT TO ENSURE THAT IF SOMEONE'S CALLING 211 THEY'RE ABLE TO GET CONNECTED TO THAT FIRE ALARM.

ULTIMATELY THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, CHIEF.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER CASTILLO. COUNCILMEMBER CABELLO HAVRDA.

>> CHIEF: YOU'RE UP, CHIEF MCMANUS. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THESE PROGRAMS AND THE INCREASE OF PATROL TIME VERSUS ACTIVE CALL TIME.

$656MILLION IN A HUGE PUBLIC INVESTMENT, AND THE PUBLIC -- THE COMMUNITY HAS TOLD US WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE. YOU'VE ATTENDED A LOT OF THESE BUDGET TOWN HALLS, MORE POLICE PRESENCE, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE SAYING. AND I THINK THIS IS A RESPONSE TO THAT CALL FROM THE COMMUNITY. WE'RE INCREASING PATROL OFFICERS, 65 NEW OFFICERS IN 2025. A QUICK QUESTION, THE GRANT THAT WE GOT FOR THE

50 NEW OFFICERS, IS THAT INCLUDED IN THAT 65? >> CHIEF MCMANUS: NO.

>> HAVRDA: SO THAT GRANT, ONCE IT'S UP, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT A BUDGET FOR THOSE EXTRA 50, RIGHT? COUNCILWOMAN, SO WE APPLY FOR THE GRANT.

IT'S NOT INCLUDED AS PART OF THE PROPOSED BUDGET. WE ANTICIPATE TO GET WORD, IF WE WERE AWARDED OR NOT, PROBABLY IN OCTOBER, MAYBE NOVEMBER.

AND AT THAT POINT, WE'LL BRING TO COUNCIL AND IF WE NEED TO MAKE NECESSARY BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS, WE WILL, BUT THE BUDGET ANTICIPATES THAT WE'RE

NOT GETTING THE GRANT, IF YOU WILL. >> HAVRDA: OKAY.

I SEE. OKAY. THANK YOU.

SO WE'VE GOT A NOTE THAT THE INCREASE IN OFFICERS IS NECESSARY, NOT JUST TO FLIP THE PERCENTAGE FROM 60 MORE PROACTIVE TIME, BUT JUST TO KEEP UP WITH

THE POPULATION GROWTH, RIGHT? >> CHIEF MCMANUS: YES,

MA'AM. >> HAVRDA: I'M SURE THAT WE FORECAST THAT AND WE'RE KEEPING UP WITH THAT. I ALSO ASSUME WE'RE KEEPING UP WITH ATTRITION AS OUR OFFICERS RETIRE AND MOVE ON.

WE HEARD AT OUR TOWN HALL, GREAT SUPPORT FOR OUR SAFE OFFICERS.

THEY'RE KNOWN AS OUR FRIENDLY NEIGHBORHOOD POLICE OFFICERS, THEY KNOW ALL THE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS, THE SAFE OFFICERS, AND OF COURSE, OUR NEIGHBORHOODS KNOW THEM. IN MANY WAY I THINK EACH OFFICER IS ALREADY PERFORMING MANY OF THE ROLES THAT OUR SAFE PERFORMS. I WANT TO GIVE THEM THAT CREDIT AS WELL.

THEY'RE DOING THEIR BEST -- OUR REGULAR POLICE -- YOU KNOW, BEAT POLICE OFFICERS ALSO KNOW A LOT OF WHERE THE TROUBLE SPOTS ARE, THE YOUTH IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE ELDER PEOPLE THAT THEY CHECK ON. SO MY HOPE IS THAT WHEN OUR OFFICERS ARE ABLE TO BE MORE PROACTIVE, WHEN WE MOVE TO THAT 60%, THEN THEY'LL HAVE MORE CAPACITY AND TIME TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. AND ALSO, OF COURSE, THAT'S, I THINK, THE 60% IS OUR GOAL NOW, BUT I HOPE THAT WE UP THAT GOAL ONCE WE REACH IT, WE CONTINUE TO EXCEED IT. WE'RE ALSO ESTIMATING AN INCREASE IN RECEIVED CALLS. I THINK YOU SAID SOMETHING LIKE -- IN THE BUDGET, IT SAYS 48,600. HOW DO THOSE INCREASES AFFECT THE GOAL OF THAT 60% PROACTIVE? WAS THAT ALREADY TAKEN

INTO ACCOUNT? >> CHIEF MCMANUS: THAT WAS ALREADY TAKEN INTO

ACCOUNT. >> HAVRDA: OKAY. SO I'M CURIOUS, HOW MANY FOLKS DOES EACH POLICE OFFICER HAVE ROUGHLY PER CAPITA, DO WE KNOW?

LIKE -- >> CHIEF MCMANUS: YOU MEAN PER THOUSAND?

>> HAVRDA: YEAH. >> CHIEF MCMANUS: WE HAVEN'T CHECKED THAT FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS. I THINK LAST TIME WE CHECKED SAPD WAS SOMEWHERE AROUND 1.83. YEAH, WE'RE ALWAYS JUST BELOW TWO.

>> HAVRDA: PER THOUSAND? >> CHIEF MCMANUS: YEAH. >> HAVRDA: OKAY.

WHAT IS THE GOAL? >> CHIEF MCMANUS: I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE IS A GOAL. YOU KNOW, THAT NUMBER'S BEEN USED FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS, BUT IT WAS JUST A NUMBER FOR REFERENCE.

THERE IS NO GOAL OR OPTIMUM NUMBER PER THOUSAND AS FAR AS THAT

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2 NUMBER GOES. >> HAVRDA: OKAY. DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO

ADD? NO. >> WALSH: I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, OUR GOAL IS -- EQUAL, CALLS DISPATCHED, CALLS TO POLICE, THE SIZE OF THE CITY, RESPONSE TIMES. ALL THOSE ARE -- CAN BE MITIGATED OR NOT THROUGH

MAKING SURE WE HIT A PROACTIVE TIME. >> HAVRDA: OKAY.

THAT MAKES SENSE. OKAY. THE LAW ENFORCEMENT MENTAL HEALTH AND WELLNESS GRANT, THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN REALLY CLOSE TO ME FOR A LONG TIME, LOOKING AT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS' MENTAL HEALTH AND WE'VE MADE SOME REAL IMPROVEMENTS, THE CITY ON IT, WITH THE HELP OF [INDISCERNIBLE] I HAVE TO GIVE NEM THAT SHOUTOUT.

I KNOW THEY WORK HARD ON THIS. WHAT IS THE GRANT

ACTUALLY PAYING FOR? >> CHIEF MCMANUS: THE MENTAL HEALTH --

>> ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE WELLNESS. >> HAVRDA: THE LAW

ENFORCEMENT MENTAL HEALTH AND WELLNESS GRANT. >>

>> CHIEF MCMANUS: WE'LL HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU WITH THAT INFORMATION.

OUR EXPERT IS STUCK IN TRAFFIC ON 35 STILL. >> HAVRDA: OKAY.

ARE YOU SAYING THAT WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO DRIVE IN THE RAIN, CHIEF? ONE MORE FOR YOU. THE ILLEGAL DUMPING, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT TODAY. I'M ALSO HEARING A LOT ABOUT ILLEGAL DUMPING HAPPENING ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, SO PEOPLE'S BACKYARDS, PEOPLE'S BUSINESSES. I UNDERSTAND THAT THESE FOLKS ARE BEING TOLD THAT IT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO CLEAN UP WHATEVER'S BEING DUMPED IN THEIR BACKYARDS. CAN YOU -- IS THAT ACCURATE?

>> CHIEF MCMANUS: I HAVE TO CHECK WITH CODE TO BE 100% ACCURATE, BUT I'M

GOING TO IMAGINE IT PROBABLY IS. >> HAVRDA: OKAY.

SO IS THERE A DIFFERENCE IN HOW -- HOW WE'RE RESPONDING TO ILLEGAL DUMPING ON PUBLIC PROPERTY OR -- THAN WE ARE IN PRIVATE PROPERTY?

>> CHIEF MCMANUS: WELL, THE PRIVATE PROPERTY IS -- THERE'S USUALLY A PATTERN THERE. IT'S A SPOT THAT SOMEONE PICKS BECAUSE IT'S DESERTED.

THAT'S WHERE THEY ALWAYS GO. I DON'T KNOW THAT SOMEBODY'S PICKING SOMEBODY'S BACKYARD ON A REGULAR BASIS TO GO

THERE. >> HAVRDA: IT'S HAPPENING WITHIN MY DISTRICT, WHERE PEOPLE HAVE JUST A REALLY BIG LOT, THEY'RE LIVING ON THAT PROPERTY AND PEOPLE ARE DUMPING ON THE BACK OF THEIR LOT, OR IT'S A BUSINESS THAT MAYBE THEY'RE STORING THINGS THERE AND THEY COME IN THE MORNING AND THERE'S A BUNCH OF JUNK, YOU KNOW, JUST ON THEIR PROPERTY.

>> CHIEF MCMANUS: YEAH. >> HAVRDA: I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK INTO THAT, TO MAKE SURE WE'RE SUPPORTING THOSE HOMEOWNERS AND THOSE BUSINESS OWNERS AS WELL. I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO FIRE.

THANKS. I'M RUNNING OUT OF TIME. CONGRATULATIONS ON THE ACCREDITATION, I KNOW Y'ALL WORKED REALLY HARD ON THAT.

AND THANKS TO ALL THE FIREFIGHTERS AND SUPPORT PERSONNEL FOR THE WORK AND DEDICATION. VERY HAPPY TO SEE CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS GET WHERE WE NEEDED TO GO ON THAT AND, OF COURSE, ANTICIPATE THAT WILL BE APPROVED AND MOVE FORWARD. I THINK OUR CITY IS BETTER AND STRONGER FOR IT. A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, IS OUR PERSONNEL, OUR GOALS KEEPING UP WITH THE ATTRITION?

>> CHIEF: YES, IT IS. YES. >> HAVRDA: OKAY.

>> CHIEF: WE'RE RUNNING THOSE CLASSES CONSTANTLY, SO WE CAN ADJUST AS THERE'S MORE RETIREMENTS OR RESIGNATIONS, WE CAN ADJUST AS WE MOVE ALONG, BUT IT'S OUR NORMAL PROCESS TO KEEP UP WITH THAT.

>> HAVRDA: OKAY. AND THEN IN THE ANNUAL REVIEW YOU PROVIDED US, IT DOES HAVEN'T A PAGE NUMBER, BUT ONE OF THE GRAPHICS SHOW QUAD 44'S RESPONSES IS HAVING ABOUT 600 MORE CALLS THAN THE REST OF THE OTHER SQUADS. I'M SUPER PROUD OF THAT, THAT WAS MY VERY FIRST BUDGET ASK, THAT SQUAD FOR 74, CLEARLY THAT WAS A NEED.

IS -- 44. IS THERE A PLAN TO RELIEVE THE PRESSURE

OR -- >> CHIEF: NOT SO MUCH WITH 32.

BUT FOR 44, BY ADDING THAT ADDITIONAL PERSON, SO IT'S SIX PEOPLE, SIX FIREFIGHTERS FOR SQUAD FOUR, SIX FOR SQUAD 19 AND THREE ADDITIONAL FOR SQUAD FRAWR. WHAT THEY'LL WITH DO, IF THE ENGINE WAS ON A CALL AND THEY HAD THEIR FOURTH PERSON -- IF THEY WERE FULLY STAFFED AND THEY WENT OUT ON A CALL, THEN THE SQUAD COULDN'T MAKE A CALL.

AND SO BY ADDING THAT EXTRA PERSON TO KEEP THE SQUAD FULLY STAFFED, THEY'LL BE JUST LIKE A REGULAR FULL-TIME, YOU KNOW, 24/7 UNIT THERE.

>> HAVRDA: OKAY. >> CHIEF: SO, IN OTHER WORDS, IF THE ENGINE WAS OUT WITH THE FULL STAFF, THEN THE SQUAD WAS OUT OF SERVICE WHILE THAT ENGINE WAS OUT. THOSE ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL WILL HELP WITH

THE SQUAD 44. >> HAVRDA: THANKS SO MUCH.

THAT'S ALL I HAD. THANKS TO [INDISCERNIBLE] AND FRED AND YOUR TEAM, I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO MUNI COURT NOW. JUDGE, YOU HAVE FOUND A NUMBER OF WAYS TO MAKE THE MUNI COURTS MORE ACCESSIBLE.

YOU'VE REALLY SHOWN US A LOT OF DEDICATION TOWARDS OUR TRAFFIC ISSUES U

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WE WERE ABLE TO GO UNDER COUN COUNCILMAN MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ LEAD THER SHIP, WE WENT TO THE COURT EARLIER, WE SAW YOU GUYS IN ACTION.

IT'S REALLY INTERESTING TO SEE THE DIVERSITY OF CASES YOU HANDLE.

YOU MEN UN MENTIONED SOME TODAY, TRUANCY, ANIMAL COURT.

I THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT Y'ALL ARE DOING. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER CABELLO HAVRDA. COUNCILMEMBER WHYTE?

>> WHYTE: THANK YOU. I WANT TO BEGIN, I GUESS, WITH POLICE AND REALLY OVERALL POLICE AND FIRE. I MEAN, THIS IS AN AREA WHERE IN MY OPINION, WE NEED TO BE SPENDING OUR RESOURCES. I THINK IN THE OVERALL BUDGET, WE ARE STILL -- AT LEAST A FEW PERCENTAGE POINTS BELOW OUR 66% STATED CITY POLICY FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE RESOURCES POURED INTO THIS PORTION OF THE BUDGET, WHICH LEADS ME TO MY FIRST QUESTION. AGAIN, WITH PUBLIC SAFETY BEING THE PRIORITY FOR ALL OF OUR CITIZENS, AND I GUESS MAYBE THIS IS FOR ERIK, I RECALL LAST YEAR I THOUGHT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT GETTING FUNDING FOR 100 NEW OFF OFFICERS IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET AND THIN DOING 100 THIS YEAR AND 100 NEXT YEAR.

WE ARE DOING 65 THIS YEAR. IS THERE A REASON FOR THE CHANGE, OR AM I NOT REMEMBERING WHAT WE SAID LAST YEAR CORRECTLY?

>> WALSH: I DON'T KNOW IF WE SAID THAT LAST YEAR, COUNCILMAN.

I DO KNOW THAT WHEN WE DID THE TRIAL BUDGET -- WHEN WE DID THE TRIAL BUDGET -- ACTUALLY, WHEN WE DID THE GOAL-SETTING SESSION, THE TRIAL BUDGET AND THE FORECAST, WE SAID 65. AND SO THE GOAL WAS TO ADD 360 OFFICERS OVER THREE TO FIVE YEARS WITH THE PROPOSAL THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU, WE'LL BE HALFWAY THERE IN TWO YEARS.

THE TWO-YEAR BALANCED BUDGET DOES NOT CONTEMPLATE ADDITIONAL OFFICERS, WHICH OBVIOUSLY WILL BE -- CONTINUE TO BE A LIKELY PRIORITY OF THE COUNCIL, SO WE'LL HAVE TO IDENTIFY FUNDING TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT IN THE FUTURE, BUT I DON'T RECALL LAST YEAR SAYING THAT WE WERE GOING TO ADD 100 OFFICERS. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT 65 FOR THE LAST SIX

MONTHS. >> WHYTE: OKAY. SO THE PLAN LAST YEAR WAS 100 FOR LAST YEAR AND THEN 65 IN THE COMING YEARS?

LIKE WE'RE DOING? >> WALSH: YEAH. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT 65 OFFICERS SINCE AT LEAST MARCH OF THIS YEAR.

>> WHYTE: OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S MY -- IT'S MY POSITION, I THINK, THAT I'M GLAD WE'RE ADDING THE 65 OFFICERS. AND WE SHOULD DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO ACCELERATE THE PROCESS OF GETTING TO THOSE 300 PLUS OFFICERS AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN, WHETHER IT'S -- WHETHER IT'S MORE IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET OR UPPING THE 65 NUMBER IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET. BECAUSE, AGAIN, I BELIEVE THIS IS WHAT THE PUBLIC WANTS AND MORE OFFICERS ON PATROL, I BELIEVE, THE CHIEF HAS SAID, THAT'S A DETERRENT TO CRIME, RIGHT?

>> CHIEF MCMANUS: YES, SIR. >> WHYTE: OKAY.

REGARDING THESE CAMERAS DOWNTOWN, AND I THINK COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO RAISED THE QUESTION EARLIER, I'M NOT SURE I HEARD THE ANSWER.

IS THE GOAL OF THE CAMERAS DETERRENCE OR IS IT TO CATCH THE BAD GUY

AFTER THE CRIME'S COMMITTED? >> CHIEF MCMANUS: BOTH.

>> WHYTE: BOTH. ALL RIGHT. AND SO I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE -- I THINK THERE WAS A TRIP TO NASHVILLE AT SOME POINT IN THE PAST SIX MONTHS, MAYBE BY CENTRO, AND YOU'VE TALKED WITH THOSE FOLKS ABOUT

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CITIES? >> CHIEF MCMANUS: I BELIEVE THEY DO.

WHEN I WAS IN -- IF I CAN GO BACK, WHEN WAS IN MINNEAPOLIS, THEY HAD A CAMERA SYSTEM DOWNTOWN, MUCH BIGGER THAN THE FIVE BLOCKS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF ACTIVITY THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO PREVENT FROM HAPPENING BECAUSE THEY SAW IT DEVELOPING, AND THEN IF A CRIME DID OCCUR, IT WAS USED AS AN INVESTIGATIVE TOOL IN THE AFTERMATH.

>> WHYTE: OKAY. SO, AGAIN, IT'S GOING TO HELP WITH DETERRENCE,

IT'S GOING TO HELP WITH CATCHING THE CRIMINALS. >> CHIEF MCMANUS: YES,

SIR. >> WHYTE: YEAH. HOT SPOT POLICING, WE TALKED ABOUT IT EARLIER THIS YEAR, AND WE'RE STILL OF THE OPINION THAT

THIS IS WORKING TO REDUCE VIOLENT CRIME. >> CHIEF MCMANUS: YES, SIR. THE NUMBERS SHOW THAT IT HAS WORKED.

>> WHYTE: AND I THINK I SAW THAT -- I THINK IT WAS MR. TILLYER WITH UTSA HAS MENTIONED THAT THE VIOLENT CRIME, IT HASN'T -- IT HASN'T MOVED TO OTHER AREAS, RIGHT, BUT WE'RE JUST SEEING IT SORT OF DISAPPEAR?

>> CHIEF MCMANUS: CORRECT. >> WHYTE: AND SO IS THERE ANY PUSH BY YOU GUYS OR

ANY THOUGHT ON EXPANDING THE PROGRAM? >> CHIEF MCMANUS: TO

OTHER TYPES OF CRIME? >> WHYTE: WELL, POTENTIALLY TO OTHER TYPES OF CRIME, BUT EVEN EXPANDING THE AREAS WHERE WE'RE LOOKING TO REDUCE

THE VIOLENT CRIME? >> CHIEF MCMANUS: NO, THERE'S NOT BEEN ANY

DISCUSSION ON THAT. >> WHYTE: OKAY. IS THAT -- IS THAT SOMETHING THAT POTENTIALLY WE SHOULD LOOK AT IN YOUR OPINION?

>> CHIEF MCMANUS: I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD BRING UP WITH -- IN

CONSULTATION WITH UTSA, YES. >> WALSH: COUNCILMAN, THE HOT SPOTS ARE CONSTANTLY CHANGING. CHIEF, YOU WANT TO TALK

ABOUT HOW THEY TURN OVER EVERY 90 DAYS. >> CHIEF MCMANUS: EVERY 60 DAYS, THE NUMBERS ARE ANALYZED AGAIN AND SOMETIMES NUMBERS DROP OFF OR SPECIFIC ADDRESSES DROP OFF OF THE HOT SPOT LIST AND OTHER NUMBERS -- OR OTHER ADDRESSES WILL BE ADDED ON, SO IT'S CONSTANTLY INFLUX.

>> WHYTE: OKAY. AND SO WE'RE CHANGING WHERE WE'RE --

>> CHIEF MCMANUS: YES. >> WHYTE: -- DOING THE PROGRAM.

>> CHIEF: YES. >> WHYTE: LAST QUESTION FOR YOU, CHIEF, WHAT, IF ANYTHING, COULD WE DOING IN TERMS OF A CITY COUNCIL IN TERMS OF PROVIDING FUNDING THAT WOULD INCREASE OUR PUBLIC SAFETY.

ONE OF THE AREAS THAT HAD BEEN BROUGHT UP TO ME WAS IN THE POLICE VEHICLES, DO WE HAVE ENOUGH VEHICLES? DO WE NEED MORE FUNDING

FOR ADDITIONAL POLICE VEHICLES? >> CHIEF MCMANUS: WE COULD USE ADDITIONAL VEHICLES. I DON'T HAVE THE -- THOSE NUMBERS RIGHT NOW, BUT WE'LL NEED ADDITIONAL VEHICLES AS WE START ADDING MORE OFFICERS. SO WE HAVE 755 RIGHT NOW, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE

LOOKING AT NEEDING 800. >> WHYTE: OKAY. HOW MANY DID YOU SAY

RIGHT NOW? >> CHIEF MCMANUS: 775. >> WHYTE: SO WE NEED

ABOUT 25 MORE VEHICLES? >> CHIEF MCMANUS: CORRECT. >> WHYTE: ANYTHING ELSE WE COULD BE DOING OR FUNDING AS A COUNCIL THAT WOULD HELP YOU IN WHAT

YOU'RE TRYING TO DO? >> CHIEF MCMANUS: RAISES FOR -- NO, JUST KIDDING.

YOU KNOW, I -- THE THING -- NOTHING'S JUMPING OUT -- AUDIO] -- HAVING 100 THINGS RUN THROUGH HIS MIND, BUT I CAN'T THINK

OF ANYTHING OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD RIGHT NOW. >> WHYTE: GOT IT.

ALL RIGHT. FOR FIRE, I'VE GOT THE SAME QUESTION.

FIRST OF ALL, VERY HAPPY ABOUT THE FIRE NEGOTIATIONS AND HOW THAT WAS SEEMINGLY RESOLVED. YOU GUYS ARE, AS I'VE SAID REPEATEDLY, THE BEST FIRE DEPARTMENT IN THE COUNTRY AND YOU SHOULD BE PAID LIKE IT.

SO I'M HAPPY THAT WE GOT THERE. IN TERMS OF WHAT WE AS A COUNCIL COULD BE DOING TO ASSIST YOU ALL IN WHAT YOU DO, IS THERE ANYTHING OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD THAT WE COULD BE FUNDING TO HELP?

>> CHIEF: NOT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT, OF COURSE, THANK YOU FOR THE CONTINUED SUPPORT FOR OUR BUDGET INITIATIVES AND OUR IMPROVEMENTS OVER THE YEARS. WE WILL BE DOING A NEEDS ASSESSMENT, OUR PLANNING ANALYTICS DIVISION IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, SO WE'LL BE COMING BACK FOR SURE NEXT YEAR WITH, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS AND, YOU KNOW, THINGS TO MAKE THE -- OUR DEPARTMENT MORE EFFICIENT.

>> WHYTE: ARE THERE ANY NEW TECHNOLOGIES OR INNOVATIONS THE DEPARTMENT'S LOOKING AT TO HELP MAYBE IMPROVE RESPONSE TIMES OR HOW YOU

GUYS GO ABOUT GETTING TO A JOB AND -- >> CHIEF: I DON'T THINK ANYTHING ADDITIONAL. THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW HAVE BEEN EFFECTIVE, THINGS LIKE OUR CLINICAL DISPATCHING, THE ADDITION OF THE SQUAD

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SO JUST CONTINUED SUPPORT FOR THOSE TYPE OF INITIATIVES AND PROGRAMS

IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. >> WHYTE: OKAY.

THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF A RANDOM QUESTION, BUT DO YOU GUYS COLLABORATE WITH SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES ON HOW YOU GUYS RESPOND TO SOME OF THESE

FIRES THAT ARE MAYBE ON THE BORDERS. >> CHIEF: WE DO.

WE HAVE MUTUAL AID TYPE AGREEMENTS, NOT NECESSARILY AUTOMATIC WHERE WE'RE ROLLING TRUCKS, YOU KNOW, NO MATTER WHERE IT IS, BUT MUTUAL AID. IF WE GET REQUESTS, WE GET REQUESTS FROM THE STATE QUITE OFTEN TO GO TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND OTHER AREAS OF THE STATE TO ASSIST FLOODING, WILDFIRE, THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT ESPECIALLY IN NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES. HERE RECENTLY, YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN THAT COLLAPSE AT THE FAIRGROUNDS IN BOERNE.

WE SENT SOME RESOURCES THERE, THEY ASKED US FOR SOME SUPPORT, AND SO WE DO -- THERE IS COLLABORATION WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS IN OTHER

MUNICIPALITIES, SURE. >> WHYTE: OKAY. I'D LIKE TO MAYBE TALK TO YOU OFFLINE A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT. BUT THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK. AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE CONTINUED COMMITMENT IN OUR BUDGET, BOTH THIS YEAR AND MOVING FORWARD, TO THESE PUBLIC SAFETY

ISSUES. THANKS, MAYOR. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER WHYTE. COUNCILMEMBER

MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ? >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I'LL START OFF WITH MUNICIPAL COURT. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR Y'ALL TODAY, BUT I DO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU DO. IT WAS A PRIVILEGE TO GET TO CHECK IN WITH STAFF AND ALL OF THE JUDGES AS WE WERE CONDUCTING OUR POINT IN PROCESS THIS YEAR. WE WERE, OF COURSE, VERY IMPRESSED BY THE DIVERSE EXPERIENCES AND THE PROFESSIONALISM AND COMMITMENT TO OUR COMMUNITY OF EACH OF THE JUDGES. I DO ALSO WANT TO MOAT THE INCREASED WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING TO REACH OUR YOUNG PEOPLE THROUGH PROGRAMMING AND CAMPAIGNS. AND I MENTIONED THIS THE OTHER DAY AT MY BUDGET TOWN HALL, BUT IT'S EASIER FOR YOUNG PEOPLE TO ACCESS VAPES OR GUNS THAN IT IS AGE-APPROPRIATE ACTIVITIES AND PROGRAMMING. I'LL FOCUS ON VAPING FOR NOW. I HAVE SEEN VAPING GROW IN POP PAIRLY UNFORTUNATELY, AND I'M NOT SURE THAT Y'ALL KNOW THIS, BUT THERE ARE VAPES THAT LOOK LIKE SCHOOL SUPPLIES, AND THERE ARE CERTAIN ADVERTISING AND MARKETING THAT IS MAKING IT SO THAT Y YOUNG PEOPLE ARE MORE DRAWN TO THEM. SO I'M WONDERING WHAT OPPORTUNITIES THERE MIGHT BE FOR A CAMPAIGN OF AWARENESS OR SOMETHING OF THE SORTS.

I WILL WANT TO EXPLORE THAT AT SOME POINT. I THINK YOU'LL BE THE

APPROPRIATE DEPARTMENT FOR THAT. >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> M CKEE-RODRIGUEZ: BUT THAT'S ALL.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT, COUNCILMAN. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: OF COURSE. NEXT UP, I'LL DO FIRE. I AM GLAD TO SEE WHERE WE ARE AT TO DAY WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. I'M SUPER EXCITED WE WERE ABLE TO REACH THIS FINAL STRETCH OF THE CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS.

OUR CONSTITUENTS LOVE OUR FIREFIGHTERS AND HAVE EXPRESSED TREMENDOUS SATISFACTION WITH THE DEPARTMENT. AND WE KNOW WE HAVE THE BEST FIRE DEPARTMENT IN THE NATION, SO I WANTED TO SHARE THAT.

ON SLIDE 7, I AM MISSING SOME INFORMATION. I SEE WE'VE MAINTAINED A RESPONSE TIME OF -- THAT WE'RE EXPECTED TO MAINTAIN A RESPONSE TIME OF EXACTLY EIGHT MINUTES AND 42 SECONDS. WHAT WAS OUR TARGET FOR

THIS YEAR, AND WHAT IS OUR TARGET FOR 2025? >> CHIEF: WELL, WE ALWAYS TRY TO MAINTAIN THAT EIGHT MINUTES AVERAGE. LIKE I SAID EARLIER, IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT TO MAINTAIN THAT WITH INCREASING CALL VOLUME, AND THEN ALSO WITH OUR FRONT-END TIMES INCREASING, TRYING TO -- LIKE I SAY, WITH CALL PROCESSING INCREASING, TRYING TO GET THE RIGHT UNIT TO THE RIGHT PLACE, ESPECIALLY WITH CLINICAL DISPATCHING.

I WILL SAY OUR CRITICAL RESPONSES... LET'S SEE. SLIDE -- IN THE BACKUP.

SLIDE 23, THE BACKUP, PLEASE. SO THESE ARE OUR CRITICAL INCIDENT TYPES. AND SO THE EIGHT-MINUTE PLUS IS ALL OF OUR INCIDENTS ALL LUMPED TOGETHER, BUT FOR OUR CRITICAL INCIDENT, STRUCTURE FIRES, CARDIAC ARRESTS, DROWNINGS, OUR RESPONSE TIME IS A LOT FASTER. THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S GOOD.

MY HOPE IS, OF COURSE, THAT WE'RE DECREASING OUR RESPONSE TIMES.

AND -- >> TO YOUR QUESTION, THE TARGET FOUR FOR 2024 WAS

EIGHT MINUTES AND 432NDS. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: SO WE'RE BEATING IT BY A SECOND. CAN YOU GO TO SLIDE 13.

I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE MATH OF THIS. IF WE DO 73,400

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TRANSPORT OR AN ADDITIONAL FEE. >> TO THE RIDER.

>> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: SO WE'RE GETTING ABOUT ABOUT $73,400,000?

>> WE COLLECT A PORTION OF THAT AMOUNT. SO WE COLLECT ABOUT 30%.

COUNCILMAN, I GUESS THE VERY HIGH-LEVEL QUESTION, TO YOUR POINT, THE 73,400 TRANSPORTS, WHAT WE BILL, RIGHT, WOULD BE ABOUT 73 MILLION.

WHAT CHRIS MENTIONED EARLIER THAT THE GROSS COLLECTION RATE IS 34%,

WHICH IS THE $25 MILLION. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: WHY IS THAT? AND I SEE THE LITTLE THINGS ON THE SIDE, THE

68% PAID BY -- >> THAT'S DUE TO THE WRITEOFFS FOR MEDICARE/MEDICAID, WHAT YOU CAN COLLECT, WHAT THE USUAL AND CUSTOMARY CHARGES, THOSE SORT OF THINGS. IT REDUCES THAT AMOUNT DOWN TO -- BY THE TIME WE'RE DONE, ABOUT 30 -- 30%.

>> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: PERFECT. THANK YOU. THAT WAS MY LAST QUESTION FOR YOU ALL. NEXT, SAPD, OF COURSE. I'LL TOUCH REAL QUICK ON THE SURVEILLANCE AND AI SOFTWARE DOWNTOWN WITH CENTRO AND WHATNOT.

I DO WANT TO REITERATE THAT WE HAVE AREAS OF TOWNS THAT ARE HOT SPOTS AND WE RECEIVE CALLS FROM PEOPLE AT APARTMENT COMPLEXES WHERE SECURITY IS A CONCERN, AND I PREFER THAT WE WOULD UTILIZE OUR EFFORTS TO PROVIDE SECURITY THERE AT KNOWN HOT SPOTS. I'LL ECHO THAT FROM COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO. WITH BROAD USE DOWNTOWN, I AM HOWEVER CONCERNED THAT WE'RE MOVING CLOSER AND CLOSER TO VIOLATING ALL OF THE WARNINGS OF MANY DISTOPIA NOVELS ABOUT SURVEILLANCE AND AN EVER GROWING POLICE STATE AND THE USE OF AI, I WANT TO NOTE THIS ONE IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME RG AND I WANT TO BE AS IMPORTANT TO Y'ALL AS IT IS FOR ME.

THAT AI HAS MORE OFTEN MISIDENTIFIED BLACK PEOPLE MORE FREQUENTLY THAN OTHER DEM DEMOGRAPHICS. I KNOW AI SEEMS LIKE THIS COOL UPCOMING STATE-OF-THE-ART THING BUT I WOULD URGE US TO BE MORE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT IT. THERE'S A DOCUMENTARY NAMED CODED BIAS THAT FOLLOWS THE ALGORITHMS, AND I'M SURE THAT IF WE LOOK AT OTHER DEPARTMENTS, THIS IS NOT UNIQUE.

I WANT TO KNOW -- AND THE FOLLOW-UP MEMO, SO THIS IS GOING TO BE THE QUESTION FOR THE FOLLOW-UP MEMO, WHAT PROTOCOLS AND SAVE GUARDS WILL WE PUT IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE NOT WRONGLY IDENTIFIED OR MISIDENTIFIED, WILL BIOMETRIC DATA END UP IN A STATEWIDE OR FEDERAL

DATABASE. >> CHIEF MCMANUS: WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AI AND FACIAL RECOGNITION, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

AND IT'S NOT MY INTENTION TO. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: USE

FACIAL RECOGNITION. >> CHIEF MCMANUS: -- GO THERE BUT.

>> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: EVERY TIME WE SAY WE'RE NOT INTENDING TO GO THERE, IT GETS CLOSER AND CLOSER. SO IT'S ONLY GOING TO BE A YEAR OR TWO, SO I'M GOING TO RELAY THAT CONCERN NOW ABOUT THE FACIAL RECOGNITION.

I'LL MOVE ON TO THE RESPONSE TIMES. ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES MENTIONED THAT OFFICER AVAILABILITY IS NOT THE ONLY GOAL OF INCREASING THE NUMBER OF POLICE OFFICERS BUT THERE'S A NATURAL EFFECT OF DECREASING OUR RESPONSE TIMES. HOWEVER, ON SLIDE 17, I'M LOOKING AT SOME NUMBERS. WE WE'RE EXPECTED TO DISPATCH ABOUT 2,000 LESS CALLS. WE'VE ALSO ADDED 217 OFFICERS.

EMERGENCY RESPONSE TIME HAS GONE UP FROM 6:20 TO 6:22 AND NONEMERGENCY RESPONSER TIME AS INCREASED FROM 2011 TO 2029.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE OUR TARGETS FOR THIS YEAR, ANTICIPATED HIGHER NUMBER OF TOTAL CALLS RECEIVED IN DISPATCH WITH SHORTER RESPONSE TIME THAN WE GOT LAST YEAR, BUT INSTEAD THE INVERSE IS TRUE. WE'RE RECEIVING AND DISPATCHING LESS CALLS, WE HAVE MORE OFFICERS BUT OUR RESPONSE TIMES HAVE GOTTEN WORSE. SO I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THE DECREASE IN CALLS AS ANOMALY, BUT I AM CONCERNED THAT DESPITE INCREASING THE NUMBER OF OFFICERS BY NEARLY 5 PERCENT, BOTH OUR NONEMERGENCY AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE TIMES HAVE NOT IMPROVED AND HAVE GOTTEN SLIGHTLY WORSE. CAN SOMEONE PROVIDE SOME INSIGHT OR SPECULATE WHY

THAT MIGHT BE. >> CHIEF MCMANUS: I DON'T THINK THAT WE'VE SEEN THE FULL EFFECT OF THE OF OFFICERS THAT WE'RE HIRING.

A LOT OF THEM ARE NOT OUT OF THE ACADEMY YET. A LOT OF THEM ARE STILL WORKING WITH FTOS, BUT MY THOUGHT IS, MY SPECULATION IS THAT OUR

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HIT THE STREET. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: OF THE 117 OFFICERS THAT WERE ADDED, HOW MANY OF THEM ARE NOT OUT OF THE ACADEMY YET?

>> CHIEF MCMANUS: WE'VE GOT -- I HAD THAT IN HERE. YEAH, THE FIRST ONES DON'T HIT THE STREET UNTIL NOVEMBER. SO THE OTHERS ARE ILL

ST. IN THE ACADEMY. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: OKAY. >> CHIEF MCMANUS: WELL, ALL OF THEM ARE STILL IN THE ACADEMY, EXCEPT FOR THE ONES COMING OUT IN NOVEMBER. AND THEN THEY'LL BE WITH THEIR FTOS FOR THE NEXT,

I THINK, 17 WEEKS. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: OKAY. I'LL WAIT ON THAT THEN.

I'LL WAIT UNTIL MY NEXT ROUND TO HIT THE LAST FEW POINTS I HAVE, BUT I'LL

BE BACK FOR YOU. THANK YOU. >> CHIEF MCMANUS: MAY I ANSWER A QUESTION THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE? ON THE WELLNESS GRANT, WE DO HAVE THAT GRANT. IT IS GOOD FOR -- FROM OCTOBER 1, '23, TO SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2025. $70,000, AND IT WILL PROVIDE ALL ACTIVE RETIRED CIVILIAN AND FAMILY MEMBERS A BALANCED LIFE THROUGH A HOLISTIC APPROACH TO EMOTIONAL REGULATION STRATEGIES, PHYSICAL WELLNESS AND PAIN MANAGEMENT, AND ALSO FINANCIAL LITERACY. SO THAT GRANT WILL -- WE ALREADY GOT THAT GRANT, $70,000, AND IT'S GOT UNTIL SEPTEMBER 30, 2025. I THINK COUNCILMEMBER CASTILLO MIGHT HAVE ASKED

THAT, HAVDRA. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER

MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ, COUNCILMEMBER COURAGE? >> COURAGE: THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'LL START OFF WITH PUBLIC SAFETY.

WELL, I MEAN, LET ME SAY THIS. THIS IS ALL PUBLIC SAFETY. AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR FROM ALL THREE OF THESE AGENCIES, THESE DEPARTMENTS, THAT DO SUCH GOOD WORK. I'LL START OFF WITH THE POLICE.

CHIEF, I'D LIKE TO THANK TPD FOR THE SUPPORT FOR LAST FALL'S WEAPON EXCHANGE. I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE CITY MANAGER AND METRO HEALTH FOR BEING PARTNERS IN THAT, AND WE'LL BE DOING THAT AGAIN THIS NOVEMBER. LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THAT.

ONE QUESTION THAT I HAVE WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT RESPONSE TIMES AND YOU'VE HEARD OTHERS MENTION IT, TOO, HAVE WE DONE AN ANALYSIS OF SAPD'S RESPONSE TIME COMPARED TO OTHER MAJOR COMMUNITIES IN TEXAS? AND MAYBE SOME OF THE SIMILAR-SIZED CITIES ACROSS THE NATION THAT WE

OFTEN COMPARE WITH? >> CHIEF MCMANUS: NO, SIR, WE HAVE NOT.

>> COURAGE: I'D LIKE TO MAYBE HAVE YOUR DEPARTMENT OR THE CITY MANAGER'S DEPARTMENT TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND HELP US EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE.

>> CHIEF MCMANUS: YES, SIR. >> COURAGE: AND ON SLIDE 4, I THINK YOU HAVE SOMETHING LISTED THERE AS A RESTRICTED FUND.

SEVEN, EIGHT, $9 MILLION, I FORGET HOW MUCH IT WAS.

WHAT'S THAT RESTRICTED FUND, WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF IT?

>> CHIEF MCMANUS: THAT WOULD BE THE AIRPORT AND THAT WOULD BE THE ASSET FORFEITURE MONEY -- OR I THINK YOU'RE PROBABLY TALKING ABOUT ASSET

FORFEITURE MONEY. >> COURAGE: AND AIRPORT, TO PAY AIRPORT POLICE,

TOO. >> CHIEF MCMANUS: YES. >> COURAGE: SO THEY BOTH

KIND OF COME OUT THAT FUND. >> CHIEF MCMANUS: YES.

>> COURAGE: I'D LIKE TO SEE HOW THAT'S BROKEN DOWN SOMETIME.

COUNCILMEMBER, CHILD SAFE IS ALSO RESTRICTED FUND AND THEY'RE USED TO PAY

FOR THE CROSSING GUARDS. >> COURAGE: OH, OKAY. GOOD.

WELL, THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. OKAY.

I THINK THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE. I THINK Y'ALL DO A GREAT

JOB. THANKS A LOT, CHIEF. >> CHIEF MCMANUS: THANK

YOU, SIR. >> COURAGE: FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, I REALLY WANT TO THANK FOR JUST PRESERVING THE LIVES AND THE PROPERTIES ACROSS THE CITY. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF WE'VE DONE THE SAME KIND -- OR A SIMILAR ANALYSIS TO WHAT I MENTIONED FOR POLICE, HAVE WE LOOKED AT THE RESPONSE TIMES ACROSS TEXAS FOR OTHER MAJOR CITIES OR SIMILAR-SIZED CITIES ACROSS THE NATION?

>> CHIEF: WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT LATELY. IN YEARS PAST, WE HAVE, AND THE PROBLEM THAT WE'VE COME ACROSS IS THAT OTHER DEPARTMENTS, OTHER MUNICIPALITIES LOOK AT THEIR DATA SOMETIMES A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.

IT'S NOT VERY CONSISTENT. SOMETIMES THEY DON'T -- THEY TAKE A CERTAIN SEGMENT OF THE RESPONSE TIME, NOT OVERALL, FROM WHEN THE CALL'S PICKED UP. IT'S KIND OF HARD TO COMPARE THE APPLES TO APPLES. WE CAN SURELY DO THAT.

>> COURAGE: YEAH, JUST PUT AN ASTERISK TO IT IF THEY'VE GOT AN UNUSUAL WAY OF DOING IT. I'M CONCERNED -- I THINK A LOT OF US HAVE HEARD A LOT ABOUT PFSA A FAS AND OUR FIREFIGHTER'S GEAR AND EQUIPMENT, HOW

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DO WE HANDLE THAT HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. >> CHIEF: I'M GOING TO

LET CHIEF NORRIS TALK ABOUT THAT. >> BRIAN NORRIS, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. WE HAVEN'T USED PFAS ON OUR D GEAR ON THE OUTER SHELL SINCE 20 SOMEONE. WE HAVE A LACK OF REPLACEMENT WHERE IT IS ON THE OUTER SHELL. IT'S VERY WELL CONTAINED. THE OTHER -- FIREFIGHTERS GET DONE AT THE FIRE, THEY'RE SWAPPING OUT THAT GEAR, BAGGING IT UP AND GETTING A CLEAN SET AND TAKING A SHOWER.

SO WHAT WE DO KNOW ABILITY PFAS IT'S NOT BIOAVAILABLE, IT'S NOT ABSORBING THROUGH THE SKIN, IT'S EITHER INHALATION OR INGESTION IN HOW IT GETS INTO US SO TAKING CARE OF THE CLEAN GEAR IS ONE WAY WE'RE

DOING THAT. >> COURAGE: OKAY. I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT.

I THINK THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAD. I THINK WE ALL AGREE THAT YOUR DEPARTMENT HAS A GREAT JOB, SO THANKS, CHIEF, I APPRECIATE

THAT. >> CHIEF: THANK YOU. >> COURAGE: MUNICIPAL COURT, I JUST WANTED TO ASK, ARE WE -- ARE WE DOING ANYTHING TO DELVE DEEPER INTO WHY WE'RE GETTING, LIKE, 50% RESPONSE AS FAR AS PEOPLE SHOWING UP FOR COURT, OR YOUTH SHOWING UP FOR WHATEVER? IN OTHER WORDS, ARE WE SURVEYING WHY PEOPLE AREN'T SHOWING UP SO THAT WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF MAYBE WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO CHANGE?

I DON'T SEE FRED JUMPING UP WITH AN ANSWER, SO... >> YOU WANT TO TAKE

THAT? >> COUNCILMAN, I THINK WE DO A NUMBER OF THINGS ON OUR OWN TRYING TO -- WITHIN THE TEXT MESSAGING REMINDERS.

WE'VE SEEN AN INCREASE IN ATTENDANCE BECAUSE OF THOSE TECHNOLOGIES, BUT IT IS DIFFICULT. AND WE'RE NOT ALONE AS FAR AS THE CITY, IN THIS -- OF OUR APPEARANCE RATES, AND WE STRUGGLE WITH THAT. AND WE TRY TO DO DIFFERENT METHODS, REMINDERS, POSTCARDS. JUST --

>> COURAGE: I HEAR ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING ON THE FRONT END.

I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT WE'RE DOING ON THE BACK END TO SEE WHAT WE'RE MISSING OR WHAT ELSE NEEDS TO BE DONE. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO GO AHEAD AND REACH OUT TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO AREN'T BEING RESPONSIVE SOMEHOW AND I KNOW WE SEND THEM TEXT MESSAGES, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BUT THERE MUST BE MORE THAN WE CAN DO TO FIND OUT --

>> COUNCILMAN, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR. THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY WE ENGAGE IN SO MUCH COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES. I THINK THERE STILL IS A FEAR TO GO TO COURT.

>> COURAGE: RIGHT. >> YOU KNOW, IT'S EASIER TO AVOID IT THAN TO ACTUALLY FACE IT. SO WE GET OUT AND ENGAGE WITH THE COMMUNITY TO DISPEL THAT FEAR AND JUST LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ONLY GOING TO

BE ABLE TO HELP YOU IF YOU SHOW UP TO COURT. >> COURAGE: YEAH.

>> SO THAT'S WHY WE DO SO MUCH COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AS WELL.

>> ADDITIONALLY, WE DO THAT ANNUAL WARRANT RESOLUTION CAMPAIGN, WE DO A BLITZ, A MEDIA BLITZ TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT -- OF OUTSTANDING CASES, WARRANT SITUATION, AND TO HAVE THEM ATTEND TO COURT.

>> COURAGE: YOU KNOW, AS A TEACHER FOR 25 YEARS, I'M REALLY MOST CONCERNED ABOUT YOUNG PEOPLE AND THEIR BEING RESPONSIBLE TO SHOW UP.

AND I'VE HEARD IT TAKES A PARENT IN MOST CASES TO BRING THEM, BUT I THINK THAT WE NEED TO CREATE MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR YOUNG PEOPLE TO OVERCOME THOSE PROBLEMS THEY'RE HAVING, WHETHER IT'S TRUANCY OR OTHER MISBEHAVIOR THAT'S WARRANTED COURT ATTENTION, BUT WHEN THEY'RE NOT SHOWING UP, THEN WE DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HELP THEM. SO... ANYWAY, THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER COURAGE. COUNCILMEMBER KAUR?

>> KAUR: THANK YOU, MAYOR. I THANK Y'ALL FOR THESE PRESENTATIONS. CHIEF, I'LL START WITH YOU.

SPECIFICALLY ON THE METRICS, THERE'S A LINE ITEM FOR COMMUNICATION GRADE OF SERVICE. WHAT IS THAT AND HOW ARE WE SERVING TO GET THAT

RESPONSE OF 95%? >> CHIEF MCMANUS: SO IT'S THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT IT TAKES FOR A CALL TAKER TO ANSWER A CALL THAT COMES INTO THE COMMUNICATION. SO THE NINA STANDARD GREATER SERVICE THAT THEY LOOK FOR IS 15 SECONDS. WE DO IT IN 10. AND OUR GRADE OF SERVICE

HAS BEEN AVERAGING AROUND 95%. >> KAUR: OKAY.

GOT IT. SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A PERCEPTION OF HOW OUR

COMMUNICATION -- >> CHIEF MCMANUS: NO. >> KAUR: ALSO ON THE

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FOR PARK POLICE. >> CHIEF MCMANUS: THEY TRACK THEM INTERNALLY,

YES, MA'AM. >> KAUR: AND THEY'RE NOT INCLUDED IN THESE

MEASURES. >> CHIEF MCMANUS: NO, THAT'S SAPD.

>> KAUR: CAN I GET A FOLLOW-UP FOR MEASURES WITH THE PARK POLICE AS

WELL TO SEE WHAT THEY'RE MEASURED UPON? >> CHIEF MCMANUS: YES,

MA'AM. >> KAUR: FOR NOISE COMPLAINTS AND PARKING ENFORCEMENT, HAVE WE CONSIDERED WORKING WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO TRY TO GET FOLKS TRAINS ON ANSWERING THOSE TYPES OF CALLS.

>> CHIEF MCMANUS: SAY IT AGAIN. >> KAUR: FOR EASIER CALLS TO ANSWER, LIKE NOISE COMPLAINTS OR -- EVER CONSIDERED --

THOSE TYPES OF CALLS. >> CHIEF MCMANUS: NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE.

I BELIEVE THAT CODE DOES SOME NOISE ABATEMENT -- OR NOISE ENFORCEMENT.

SO WE DO HAVE A PILOT WITH CODE ON NOISE COMPLAINTS.

>> KAUR: I KNOW I'VE TALKED TO -- I'D PREVIOUSLY TALKED TO MIKE ABOUT THAT, BUT I'D LIKE TO FOLLOW UP ON TO SEE IF THAT'S THE -- THE PILOT IS STILL HAPPENING AND WHAT THE RESULTS OF THAT WERE.

>> CHIEF MCMANUS: YES, MA'AM. >> KAUR: I'VE MENTIONED THIS A COUPLE OF TIMES, BUT THINKING OF TRYING TO CREATE A SAFE OFFICER PROGRAM FOR THE DOWNTOWN BIKE PATROL SO THEY GET ASSIGNED SPECIFIC AREAS WHERE BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTS CAN CALL THAT SAFE OFFICER.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN EXPLORED? REMEMBER WE TALKED ABOUT

THIS IN THE LAST MEETING AS WELL. >> CHIEF MCMANUS: NOT FOR BIKE, MA'AM, BUT THE CENTRAL SUB HAS ITS SAFE OFFICERS FOR THAT AREA.

>> KAUR: IT WOULDN'T BE POSSIBLE TO SPLIT UP BIKE PATROL INTO SPECIFIC

QUADRANTS OR SECTIONS OF DOWNTOWN? >> CHIEF MCMANUS: IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE. I MEAN, WE'D LOOK AT THAT.

>> KAUR: I'D LIKE FOR US TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND SEE IF THAT'S POSSIBLE FOR SOMETHING WE COULD IMPLEMENT. I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE SPECIFIC CONTACTS AROUND DOWNTOWN FOR BUSINESSES AND

RESIDENTS FOR BIKE PATROL. >> CHIEF MCMANUS: YES,

MA'AM. >> KAUR: AND THEN THE LAST THING THAT I HAVE FOR YOU IS I KNOW WE TALKED TO YOU GUYS BRIEFLY ABOUT -- THERE IS GOING TO BE AN INCREASED FINE FOR FALSE ALARMS, BUT 70,000 CALLS IS STILL A LOT. HAVE WE DONE ANY PROJECTIONS OF HOW MUCH WE ANTICIPATE THAT TO GO DOWN WITH THESE INCREASED FINES THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTING OR WHAT'S THE PLAN TO TRY TO GET IT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO KIND

OF ZERO? >> COUNCILWOMAN, RICK RILEY, I'M THE ASSISTANT POLICE DIRECTOR. THE SHORT ANSWER TO THAT IS, NO, WE ARE IN THE -- ABLE TO GO OUT AND ADDRESS THOSE FALSE ALARM CALLS TO GET THOSE PEOPLE PERMITTED. THAT'S WHY WE'RE RAISING THIS RATE.

IT'S THOSE THAT DON'T HAVE PERMITS THAT ARE CAUSING POLICE RESOURCES TO RESPOND TO THOSE TYPE OF CALLS. AS THAT CONTRACT STARTS, WE ANTICIPATE THAT CONTRACT, FEBRUARY OR MARCH KICKING OFF, AND AT THAT TIME WE'LL BE ABLE TO MEASURE IF THAT'S HAD ANY EFFECT ON THE FALSE

ALARM CALLS. >> KAUR: YEAH, I'D LOVE TO SEE WHAT THAT CONTRACT HAS STARTED WHAT THE UPDATE HAS STARTED FOR THE UPDATE ON HOW MANY CALLS WE'RE GETTING IN THE FOLLOWING MONTHS. THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU, CHIEF. I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO SAFD.

ON THE PERFORMANCE METRICS, I WAS A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED BETWEEN INCIDENTS UNIT RESPONSES AND FIRE AND EMS INCIDENCES.

>> CHIEF: OKAY. SO AN INCIDENT IS A CALL FOR SERVICE.

SO IT COULD BE A MEDICAL CALL, A STRUCTURE FIRE. >> KAUR: SO IT'S ALL

ENCOMPASSING. >> CHIEF: ALL ENCOMPASSING.

SO A UNIT RESPONSE IS HOW MANY UNITS RESPOND TO THAT PARTICULAR INCIDENT. SO YOU COULD HAVE A WRECK ON THE HIGHWAY THAT GETS LADDER DRU TRUCK, ENGINE, SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S A LOT MORE.

>> KA -- >> KAUR: THE TOTAL NUMBER DIDN'T SUM UP TO BE THE SUM OF FIRE AND EMS INCIDENCES INDIVIDUALLY. ARE THERE OTHER

INCIDENCES THAT ARE IN THAT LINE ITEM? >> CHIEF: FOR WHICH ONE,

OR THE NEXT ONE. >> KAUR: MAYBE WE E CAN FOLLOW UP -- IT WASN'T IN Y'ALL'S PRESENTATION, IT WAS ON THE PERFORMANCE METRICS CHART, BUT ESSENTIALLY FOR THE 2025 TARGET IT SAYS NUMBER AND FIRE AND EMSENTS PROJECTED TO BE 278,000, BUT THEN FIRE AND EMS INDIVIDUALLY IS TOTAL AT 143. SO I WAS WONDERING WHAT THAT ADDITIONAL 130,000 INCIDENCES WERE, MAYBE I'LL SEND YOU THE CHARTED AND THAT WAY YOU CAN --

IS THAT -- >> SEE WHAT THAT ADDITIONAL -- I'M JUST CURIOUS TO KNOW WHAT THE ADDITIONAL CALLS WERE. THE LAST QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU, IS DO WE USE A GIS OR A HEAT MAP OF HIGH RISK FIRE AREAS OR EMS RESPONSE AREAS AS WE'RE

DOING OUR PLANNING FOR -- >> CHIEF: WE DO.

AND SO WE LOOK AT IT -- WE USE THE HEAT MAP BY PLANNING ZONE.

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>> KAUR: GREAT. AND JUST TO VERBALIZE THIS ONE MORE TIME.

I'D PREVIOUSLY ASKED FOR AS WE ARE WORKING ON THE GREEN LINE, THERE'S BEEN SOME CONCERNS BY NEIGHBORS ABOUT THE IMPACTS IT WOULD HAVE TO FIRE ENGINES BEING ABLE TO GET TO SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO IF THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN MAP OUT -- WORKING WITH VIA TO MAP OUT WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE FOR FIRE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL, JUST

WANTED TO NAME THAT. >> CHIEF: SURE. THE MAPS ARE ON THE WAY, I DID MEET WITH ROD SANCHEZ, REMEMBER THAT GUY?

>> KAUR: NO, WHO'S THAT? [LAUGHTER] >> CHIEF: SO TO LOOK AT THAT PARTICULAR LINE. THERE'S CERTAIN INTERSECTIONS, IT IS GOING TO BE -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY CHALLENGING, BUT YOU'LL HAVE TO GO DOWN TO AN INTERSECTION AND TURN AROUND AND COME BACK.

LIKE SAN PEDRO, THE FIREFIGHTER'S GOING TO HAVE TO PLAN

ACCORDINGLY. >> KAUR: I'M GLAD YOU GUYS ARE WORKING ON

THAT. >> CHIEF: WE'LL GOING TO ANALYZE THAT AND PUT IT INTO OUR CAD SYSTEM AND SEE -- BECAUSE THE CAD WILL PLOT THE MOST APPROPRIATE COURSE, THE FASTEST COURSE, SO WE'LL HAVE TO PUT THAT IN THERE

AS WELL. >> KAUR: GREAT. I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT.

THANK YOU, CHIEF. AND T THEN LASTLY FOR JUDGE, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS. THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU'RE DOING WITH OUR JUVENILES. ON SLIDE 15, I HAVE A REQUEST FOR HOW TO DIFFERENTLY DEMONSTRATE THIS DATA, BECAUSE THESE DISTRICTS ARE ALL SUCH DIFFERENT SIZES, SO IT'S HARD TO SEE IT IN A PIE CHART LIKE THIS.

COULD WE SEE LIKE TOTAL NUMBER OF -- LIKE PERCENTAGE OF KIDS SERVED BASED ON THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS IN THAT DISTRICT?

>> YES. >> KAUR: SO LIKE SAISD, HOW MANY OF THE PERCENTAGE OF SAISD STUDENTS THAT WE'RE SERVING, AND THEN ALSO DO WE HAVE TOTAL PERCENTAGES OF TRUANCY BASED ON DISTRICT?

DO THEY SUBMIT THAT DATA TO Y'ALL? >>

>> NO, COUNCILWOMAN, THEY DON'T GIVE US THAT DATA. >> KAUR: I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO SEE IF THE TRUANCY NUMBERS ARE DIFFERENT.

I'M SURE TEA HAS IT, BUT IT WOULD ALSO BE INTERESTING TO MAYBE LOOK AT THAT IN COMPARISON TO HOW MANY KIDS WE'RE ABLE TO SERVE.

>> SOME DISTRICTS ARE EASIER TO WORK WITH THAN OTHER DISTRICTS, BUT I

IT'S STILL A CHALLENGE GETTING DATA FROM THEM. >> KAUR: YEAH.

I KNOW THAT. OKAY. AND THEN THE COMPLETION OF PROBATION AND DEFENSE DRIVING, THOSE NUMBERS ARE BELOW 50%.

WHY IS THAT NUMBER SO LOW? >> YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW. THE COURSE IS OFFERED ONLINE, THE COURSE IS OFFERED IN PERSON. THE FEE -- WE CHARGE A NOMINAL FEE FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO TAKE DEFENSIVE DRIVING. THERE'S 90 DAYS TO COMPLETE THE DEFENSIVE DRIVING, AND EVEN IF THEY DON'T COMPLETE IT IN THAT TIME, WE CAN GIVE THEM MORE TIME TO COMPLETE IT.

I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ISSUE IS. >> KAUR: SOMETIMES IT'S

EASIER TO PAY THE FINE THAN TO DO THE COURSE. >> I THINK SOMETIMES IT'S

JUST EASIER TO DO THAT. >> KAUR: I APPRECIATE THAT.

THE LAST QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU, IS ON THE CASES THAT -- THERE'S 75% OF CASES THAT WERE CLOSED OR CLOSED WITH -- WITHOUT -- PAID OR CLOSED WITHOUT PAYMENT. WHAT HAPPENS TO THE OTHER 25 PERCENT OF THOSE

CASES? >> WHAT TYPES OF CASES WERE THEY?

DO YOU KNOW WHAT SLIDE THAT WAS. >> KAUR: IT'S ON THE PERFORMANCE METRIC. IT SAYS PERCENTAGE OF PAID CASES AND PERCENTAGE

OF CASES CLOSED WITHOUT PAYMENT. >> A LOT OF TIMES THOSE CASES THAT ARE CLOSED WITHOUT PAYMENT ARE EITHER CREDIT FOR TIME SERVED, SO IF ANYBODY SPENT ANY AMOUNT OF TIME IN JAIL, THEY'LL GET CREDIT FOR TIME SERVED. IT'S COMMUNITY SERVICE HOURS AS WELL.

>> KAUR: WHAT HAPPENS TO THE REST OF THOSE CASES, THEY BECOME LIKE WARRANT

CASES. >> THEY JUST GET RECYCLED SOMEHOW, EITHER A WARRANT OR GIVEN A DATE TO COME BACK AND MAKE A PAYMENT. A LOT OF THOSE KAI CASES ARE FAMILY VIOLENT CASES. IF A PERSON IS ARRESTED IN MAGISTRATION, WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE A PLEA ON THOSE CASES BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PAPERWORK, A LOT OF ADMONISHMENTS THAT THE JUDGE NEEDS TO G OVER WITH THOSE INDIVIDUALS. THE SAME WITH ANIMAL CASES WE HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION WE NEED TO MAKE SURE IS TAKEN BEFORE A DEFENDANT IS SENTENCED. SO THAT'S NOS CASES AS

WELL. >> KAUR: BACK IN THE DAY, ONE OF MY STAFF MEMBERS TOLD ME THERE WAS A WAY TO ADDRESS YOUR TICKETS AT H-E-B.

IS THAT A PROGRAM THAT WAS TAKEN AWAY? >> WE'RE WORKING ON IT.

THOSE KIOSKS FOR END OF LIFE. AND SO WE ARE WORKING ON NEW KIOSKS, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE LIBRARY TO TRY TO GET THEM INTO THE LIBRARY SO THAT -- BECAUSE AT H-E-B, THEY WOULD PUT THEM RIGHT BY THE EXIT AND ENTRANCE DOORS, SO WHEN I WAS ON THE BENCH, YOU SAW, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE COMING -- IT WAS HARD TO HEAR, KIDS WERE POKING AT THE SCREEN. SO WE ARE WORKING AT GETTING KIOSKS INTO THE LIBRARY, BUT WE DO ALSO HAVE A VIRTUAL DOCKET, SO INDIVIDUALS COULD CONTACT

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THE COURT FROM THEIR HOME. >> KAUR: OKAY.

GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOUR WORK, JUDGE.

THANKS, MAYOR. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER KAUR.

COUNCILMEMBER PELAEZ? >> PELAEZ: THANKS, JUDGE.

I BELIEVE YOU'RE WORKING ON IT. I KNOW YOU'RE WORKING ON IT. I'LL TELL YOU MY FRUSTRATION IS THAT FOR EIGHT YEARS JUDGE COURAGE JOHN COURAGE HAVE BEEN HEARING YOU'RE WORKING ON IT FOR THE KIOSKS. IS THERE A TIMELINE, OR IS THERE A GOAL --

>> WE'RE WORKING ON IT. >> WORKING WITH THE LIBRARY, WE HAVE A LOCATION IN MIND, THE LIBRARY HAS IDENTIFIED LOCATION AND WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE THAT UP SOON. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF COMMUNICATION GOING OUT.

AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO ACTUALLY MAKE THE CHANGES TO OUR TICKETS, OUR ELECTRONIC TICKETS MAINLY, AND PUT THOSE LOCATIONS ON THE TICKET

ITSELF SO PEOPLE KNOW TO GO TO THAT LOCATION. >> PELAEZ: AN EASY PLACE TO DO THAT WOULD BE AT THE POLICE SUBSTATIONS, RIGHT?

>> WE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT. WE DON'T FEEL THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE BECAUSE THE COURT IS INDEPENDENT AND IF IT'S AT THE POLICE SUBSTATION, THE THOUGHT PROCESS WITH INDIVIDUALS THINKING, WELL, THEY DON'T HAVE A FAIR OPPORTUNITY, THE POLICE WROTE THE TICKET AND HERE IT IS, IF I DON'T TAKE CARE OF IT, I'M GOING TO GET ARRESTED.

AND SO THAT IMPARTIALITY ASPECT OF IT, WE TRY TO STAY AWAY FROM THE POLICE

STATION. >> PELAEZ: I KNOW THAT YOU WEREN'T THE JUDGE IN CHARGE OF MUNICIPAL COURT WAY BACK WHEN JOHN AND I STARTED, BUT I THINK IT'S FAIR, RIGHT, TO ASK YOU GUYS WHEN -- YOU KNOW, BECAUSE SOON -- FRED, I GET IT, SOON, BUT I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.

SO CAN YOU GUYS JUST -- AND I'M NOT PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT RIGHT NOW FOR AN ANSWER, BUT CAN YOU GUYS COME BACK WITH AN ANSWER SOME TIME SOON?

>> WE WILL COME BACK WITH AN ANSWER SOMETIME SOON, YES, ABSOLUTELY.

>> WALSH: COUNCILMAN, WE'LL WORK WITH THEM AND WE'LL PUT THAT IN THE

FOLLOW-UP MEMO, THE ACTUAL SCHEDULE. >> PELAEZ: YEAH, THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. THE OTHER THING, TOO, IS WITH REGARDS TO THESE RING CAMERAS, CHIEF, YOU KNOW, THOSE WIRELESS CAMERAS THAT PEOPLE INSTALL ON THEIR -- FRONT OF THEIR GARAGE OR THEIR DOORBELLS, WHEN I'M WITH YOUR SA -- YOUR SAFE OFFICERS, WE FREQUENTLY TELL THE HOMEOWNERS, YOU KNOW, INSTALL THOSE THINGS. THEY'RE HELPFUL TO SAPD IN -- YOU KNOW, IN SOLVING CRIMES, BUT THEY'RE ALSO DETERRENCE BECAUSE CRIMINALS ARE DUMB BUT THEY'RE NOT THAT DUMB TO WHERE THEY TARGET HOUSES WITH RING CAMERAS. IS THAT CORRECT, THAT

THOSE RING CAMERAS ARE HELPFUL TO YOU GUYS? >> CHIEF MCMANUS: THEY CAN BE. RING HAS MADE IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR US NOW BECAUSE THEY REQUIRE A WARRANT FOR US TO GET ANY OF THE VIDEO THAT IS CAPTURED FOR A PARTICULAR EVENT, BUT, YEAH, I MEAN, VIDEO'S ALWAYS HELPFUL,

EVEN IF IT'S -- YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY HELPFUL. >> PELAEZ: SO IF IT'S POTENTIALLY HELPFUL AND WE'RE DOING THIS DOWNTOWN, IS THERE A WAY TO HELP NEIGHBORHOODS ACQUIRE THESE? VERY ACCESSIBLE AND RATHER INEXPERIENCE CAMERAS AND HELP THEM INSTALL IT.

WE'RE GIVING BUSINESSES CONSTRUCTION GRANTS WHENCE WE INCONVENIENCE THEM WITH CONSTRUCTION AND WE'RE GIVING THEM GRANTS JUST BECAUSE THEY NEED THE GRANT. WE'RE GIVING PEOPLE WHITE ROOFS AND ALL THAT, BUT ARE OTHER CITIES -- DOES ANYBODY KNOW IF OTHER CITIES ARE HELPING MAKE

THOSE CAMERAS MORE ACCESSIBLE? >> CHIEF MCMANUS: NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE. AT LEAST AROUND TEXAS AND A FEW OUTSIDE OF THE STATE. I'VE CHALKED TO CHIEFS AND THAT'S NOTHING THAT

HAS BEEN THE TOPIC OF CONVERSATION. >> PELAEZ: WOULD YOU

OBJECT TO A PILOT PROGRAM LIKE THAT? >> CHIEF MCMANUS: NO, I

WOWEDN'T WOULDN'T OBJECT TO IT. >> PELAEZ: OKAY.

THE SECOND THING -- I ECHO COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO'S CONCERNS ABOUT THIS HUNDR HUNDAE KIA LAWSUIT THAT WE HAVEN'T JUMPED INTO, BUT PUMPED OUT A PRODUCT THAT REALLY STRESSED AND COST MORE MONEY THAN WE NEEDED TO, WE SUED THEM. WHEN THE TOBACCO INDUSTRY DID THE SAME, WE SUED THEM UNDER THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHY HUNDAE AND KIA ARE PUMPING OUT JUST TO MAKE MONEY. I THINK IT MERITS AN ANSWER AS TO WHETHER OR NOT WE WILL GET INVOLVED IN SOMETHING LIKE THIS. CAN WE TALK ABOUT THAT

ANDY. >> SEGOVIA: WE'RE REVISITING THE MEMO WE DID AND WE'LL UPDATE THAT. BUT IF THERE'S A CLAIM,

YEAH, WE'LL FOLLOW UP ON IT. >> PELAEZ: THANKS, ANDY.

I DON'T KNOW HOW OLD PRUE ROAD IS, THE SUBSTATION.

IT MAY BE AS OLD AS BOB ROSS SENIOR CENTER, MAYBE NOT.

BUT IS THERE A LIFE CYCLE FOR SUBSTATIONS? AND IF SO, WHAT IS IT?

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>> CHIEF MCMANUS: I THINK PRUE IS 1982, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, BUT DON'T QUOTE

ME ON THAT. >> PELAEZ: THAT'S OLDER THAN YOU, CHIEF.

>> WALSH: COUNCILMAN, WE DID A STUDY OF ALL OF OUR POLICE FACILITIES AND AS WE PREPARE FOR THE BOND PROGRAM NEXT YEAR, WE'LL BE LOOKING AND ADDRESSING EITHER ADDITIONAL NEEDS ACROSS THE CITY AND REPLACEMENT OF EXISTING

FACILITIES. >> PELAEZ: CAN YOU SHOW US THE RESULTS OF THOSE

STUDIES OR IS IT TOO EARLY. >> WALSH: .

>> VILLAGOMEZ: NO, NO, IT'S SOMETHING WE COMPLETED LAST YEAR.

>> PELAEZ: YEAH. I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHERE IN THE LIFE CYCLE PRUE SITS, RIGHT, AND I'M SURE MY OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS WOULD PROBABLY LIKE TO KNOW WHERE THEIRS SIT, EXCEPT COUNCILWOMAN VIAGRAN, SHE'S GOT THE TAJ MAHAL AND THE NEWEST SHINIEST ONE IN TOWN AND ALL OF US ARE GREEN WITH ENVY, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT AS SOME POINT. THE OTHER THING WITH REGARDS TO CAMERA MONITORING DOWNTOWN, I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE INNOVATION DEPARTMENT AT SOME TIME, RIGHT, TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THAT IN AND OF ITSELF IS -- IS AS EFFICIENT. WELL, IF IT WOULD ALSO BENEFIT US FROM COLLECTING SMART CITY DATA, RIGHT? AND THEN, YOU KNOW, CREATING SOME SORT OF DATA LAKE FOR RESEARCHERS AND THE PUBLIC AND US TO LEARN FROM. AND, YOU KNOW, THOSE KIOSKS, THOSE IKIOSKS WE HAVE DOWNTOWN MAY BE A GOOD STARTING OFF POINT TO COLLECT SOME OF THAT DATA. I KNOW WE'VE GOT DATA SENSOR -- VERY INEXPENSIVE DATA DATA SENSOR STREETLIGHTS THAT WE WERE PILOTING IN THE INNOVATION ZONES. DID THAT GO ANYWHERE? DID IT HELP US SOLVE ANY PROBLEMS? DID WE LEARN ANYTHING? AND CHIEF, MORE DATA IS PROBABLY BETTER FOR YOU GUYS -- NOT ON A 9-1-1 CALL RIGHT THERE BASIS, BUT AS FAR AS LEARNING LESSONS LONGITUDINALLY, YOU KNOW, FROM HOW PEOPLE MOVE AND USE DOWNTOWN, I'M SURE -- SURE THERE'S SOMETHING YOU GUYS CAN GLEAN FROM THAT. DO YOU DISAGREE?

>> CHIEF MCMANUS: NO, I DON'T DISAGREE. IT WOULD BE INTERESTING

TO SEE WHAT DATA THEY -- IT WOULD PROVIDE. >> PELAEZ: OKAY.

SO CAN WE GET -- CAN WE GET A COMMITMENT THAT THE INNOVATION DEPARTMENT

WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT FOR US? >> WALSH: WE MAY PULL OTHERS, BUT I THINK WE'LL LOOK AT THAT DATA STANDPOINT.

INNOVATION IS REALLY FOCUSED ON NOT SMART CITIES ANYMORE.

>> PELAEZ: YEAH. >> WALSH: I'LL TELL YOU THAT I WAS DISAPPOINTED THAT WE DID NOT GET THE RESULT THAT I THINK WE WERE ALL ANTICIPATED.

A LOT OF THAT STARTED RIGHT BEFORE COVID SO COVID IS A LITTLE BIT TO BRAIM. BLAME. AS WE LOOK AT THAT STUFF, INCORPORATING THOSE SENSORS AND OTHER DATA ELEMENTS TO BE ABLE TO

TRACK THE MOVEMENT OF PEOPLE AND TRAFFIC. >> PELAEZ: YEAH.

>> WALSH: ARE ALL IMPORTANT THINGS. BUT WE'LL CERTAINLY LOOK

AT TH THAT. >> PELAEZ: AND TO BE CLEAR -- I'M SENSITIVE TO THE FACIAL RECOGNITION CONVERSATION, IT'S 50-YEAR-OLD TECHNOLOGY, BUT IT'S GETTING SCARIER AND SCARIER WITH IT'S PRECISION AND ALSO IT'S LACK OF PRECISION IN MANY CASES. AND THAT WOULD REQUIRE A VERY DIFFICULT AND SENSITIVE CONVERSATION WITH THE PUBLIC.

BUT THE DATA I'M TALKING ABOUT IS NONPERSONALIZED DATA, I MEAN THE DATA OF THE SWARM AND HOW PEOPLE MOVE THROUGHOUT OUR CITY.

THE OTHER THING IS -- I KNOW MARIA, YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT 9-1-1 RESPONSE TIMES CITYWIDE AND YOU'VE GOTTEN ME SOME DATA, BUT THE ONE THING YOU TOLD ME IS THAT WE WEREN'T BREAKING IT DOWN BY DISTRICT.

IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN START GETTING BY >> WITH THE OFFICE OF INTEGRATIVE PUBLIC SAFETY WE HAVE THE INFORMATION BY SUBSTATION.

WHEN YOU SAY DISTRICT, MAYBE WE CAN DO BY ZIP CODE. THAT PROBABLY IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO. WE CAN LOOK AT THE CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT AS WELL,

BUT WE CAN DO IT BY SUBSTATION AND ZIP CODE. >> AND LET ME TELL YOU WHY DISTRICT, RIGHT? EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US ARE ELECTED TO A DISCRETE DISTRICT AND I'M SURE COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO WOULD WANT TO KNOW WHETHER THE DEMON ONIS GETTING FASTER 911 CALLS THAN YOU ARE, AND IF THEY ARE, THEN SOMETHING IS WRONG. THE ZIP CODE HELPS ME LESS THAN THE 10 DISTRICTS.

AND I'M SURE YOU CAN DO IT. I'D JUST LIKE TO HEAR WHETHER OR NOT IT'S TOO HARD

A LIFT, RIGHT? >> [INAUDIBLE]. >> THANK YOU.

I THINK IN THE PAST 40 YEARS WE HAD AN INCREASE IN OUR FOOTPRINT AND WE KEEP HEARING THAT WE'LL ADD A MILLION PEOPLE OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS.

AND MAYBE IT WAS A 40% INCREASE IN PEOPLE. ANYWAY, THE TRAFFIC IS WO

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>> JUST ANECDOTALLY, I WAS HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH THE CHIEF IN ANOTHER MAJOR TEXAS CITY, PROBABLY SEVERAL WEEKS AGO. AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT RESPONSE TIMES. AND HE ASKED ME, HE SAID HOW THE HECK DO YOU GET YOUR RESPONSE TIMES DOWN TO SIX MINUTES? AND I WON'T TELL YOU WHAT

CITY THAT WAS. IT WAS A MAJOR CITY. >> PROBABLY THAT JERK WHO IS

IS ANNOYING IN CORPUS CHRISTI. >> IT WAS BIGGER THAN COR

CORPUS. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: COUNCIL MEMBER VIAGRAN.

>> I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL WORK YOU'RE DOING. I HAVE A GREAT IDEA IN TERMS OF IKIOSKS SO I'LL GET WITH ERIK ON THAT. IN OCTOBER OF 2023 LAST YEAR WE BROUGHT THE JUDGES IN OUR PUBLIC SAFETY KIND OF TOUR, WE BROUGHT YOUR JUDGES TO SOUTHSIDE LIONS SENIOR CENTER AND THAT WAS REALLY EFFECTIVE.

AND WHAT I REALIZED IS SOME OF THE ISSUES ARE REALLY SPECIFIC AND I THINK ACS IS THE ONE THAT HAD MOST INFORMATION. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO DOING THAT AGAIN AND I DO INVITE ALL MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES TO INVITE THE JUDGES OUT TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS. IT WAS REALLY SUCCESSFUL.

THE OTHER THING IS THE TRUANCY FOR OUR HIGH SCHOOL SENIORS.

JUST COUNT ME IN ON HOW WE CAN HELP, HOW WE CAN GET YOU INTO SOME OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS THERE. I THINK WE KNOW TRUANCY IS HARD, BUT ACCOUNTABILITY AND SOMETHING ABOUT THAT COURT DATE I THINK LET'S PEOPLE MOTIVATED, GETS PARENTS MOTIVATED TO GET INFORMATION DONE. SO CONTINUE THAT GOOD WORK.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN. >> VIAGRAN: THANK YOU. I WANT TO START WITH THE FIRE AND HOPEFULLY I'LL HAVE TIME FOR THE POLICE. I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT-OUT FIRST TO MY STATIONS, FIRE STATION 13 ON PRESA, 20 ON WW WHITE, 21 ON FLORES THAT IS SOON-TO-BE MOVED. 22 ON MARCH, 29 ON HOT WELLS, 50 ON APPLEWHITE AND 53 ON DUNOP. BUT I CANNOT FORGET THE FOUR SURROUNDING FIRE STATIONS THAT TAKE CARE OF MY AREA, WHICH IS 9, 16, 25 AND 22. AND THEN DOWNTOWN AREA ONES THAT ALSO HELP, 18, SEVEN, 11, 8, 1 AND 3. SO I WANT TO GIVE THEM A THANKS. I THINK I'VE VISITED PROBABLY EVERY FIRE STATION IN DISTRICT 3 WITH SOME SORT OF FOOD PRODUCT FOR THEM. THEY'VE ALL BEEN OUT AND BUSY, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THEIR HARD WORK. THE THE ONE QUESTION I HAVE IS IN TERMS OF THE EXTREME HEAT, IS THERE ANY OTHER CLASSES OR TECHNOLOGY OUT THERE THAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING ON THOSE CALLS? ANY AD CAMPAIGNS WE CAN DO? I KNOW WE IT DID IT WELL WITH THE FIRE ALARMS, PUTTING THEM IN HOUSES. IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO WITH THE EXTREME HEAT IN

TERMS OF WORK WITH SPECIAL HELP ON THAT? >> WE STILL HAVE THE FAN PROGRAM. OTHER THAN THAT I'M NOT SURE THERE'S ANY OTHER -- EXCEPT FOR THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER AND THE CHIEF IS BEHIND ME GETTING READY TO

TALK ABOUT IT. I'LL HAND IT OVER TO HIM. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN.

SO WE DO WORK WITH METRO HEALTH OVER LAPSE LAPSE AND THERE IS COLLABORATION TO WORK WITH THE EXTREME HEAT. THERE IS A HEAT PLAN AS YOU'RE AWARE OF, AS WELL AS WE DO DOOR HANGERS THAT ARE DELIVERED TO SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS, ALSO EMS ON TECHNOLOGY ON HOW TO COOL PEOPLE DOWN FASTER. SO EVERYTHING THAT WE DO, IT THERE'S A QUESTION WHETHER -- THERE'S NO QUESTION IN SOUTH TEXAS WHETHER IT'S GOING TO GET HOT SO WE DO A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS TO TRY TO KEEP PEOPLE AWARE. ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO TRY TO GET OUT IS GO TO SOMEPLACE COOL. WE GOT INTO A PERIOD OF TIME TO WHERE IT SEEMED LIKE WE WERE PIGEONHOLING PEOPLE TO FACILITIES. THEY'RE MORE THAN WELCOME AT CITY FACILITIES, BUT THERE ARE LOTS OF PLACES TO STAY COOL IN SAN ANTONIO SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE GETTING THE WORD SO JUST GO SOMEWHERE COOL.

>> VIAGRAN: THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. WE ALL SAW THE NEWS WITH THE DEATH THAT CAME A FEW WEEKS AGO AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDS THAT THIS IS -- THIS CAN KILL AND THERE ARE STEPS YOU CAN TAKE IN, ONE,

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AND ALSO AVOIDING THE THINGS THAT DO DEHYDRATE YOU. AND I THINK WHEN WE TALK ABOUT OUR UNUNHOUSED OR THOSE WHO ARE HOMELESS OR THOSE WHO HAVE ADDICTION ISSUES, UNDERSTANDING THAT ALCOHOL WILL GET YOU DEHYDRATED.

YOU STILL NEED TO DRINK WATER BECAUSE THIS CAN BE DETRIMENTAL TO YOU.

SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS. NOW, I WANT TO MOVE ON TO SLIDE 13, AND YOU GUYS CAN SIT BECAUSE THIS WILL BE MOSTLY FOR MAYBE JUSTINA OR ERIK. ,. IF WE GO TO SLIDE 13 REGARDING THE EMS TRANSPORT FEE, AGAIN, I HAVE A HUGE ISSUE WITH INCREASING THIS FEE WHEN WE ONLY HAVE ABOUT 120 HOSPITAL BEDS ON THE SOUTHSIDE.

AND THE OTHER THING IS THE URGENT CARE HOSPITALS, WE NEED TO SEE THE TRANSPORTATION AND IT'S GOING TO BE A LONGER TRANSPORTATION.

SO MY FIRST QUESTION IS WHEN OUR UNITS COME OUT, OUR EMS TRANSPORT UNITS COME OUT, IF THEY REFUSE THE RIDE, LIKE THY'RE ILL AND THEY REFUSE THE RIDE, WHAT DO THEY GET

CHARGED FOR THEN? >> WE DO HAVE AN AID-ONLY CHARGE, SO THAT'S -- I LOOK AT THE FEE LIST, I BELIEVE IT'S 100 OR 150. I THINK IT'S 100 STARTING

THE AID ONLY. >> VIAGRAN: SO MY CONCERN IS YOU COME OUT, SOMEBODY IS CLEARLY IN DISTRESS, HAVING A HEART ATTACK OR WHATEVER, BUT THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY THAT -- THEY KNOW THERE'S A FEE. OUR EMS CANNOT TAKE THEM

WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION, CORRECT? >> THAT'S CORRECT.

BUT WE CAN BE VERY CONVINCING, SO -- SO WE TALK TO THE FAMILY MEMBERS IF A CERTAIN PATIENT JUST REFUSES THAT WE KNOW BECAUSE OF THE ASSISTANCE THAT WE'VE TAKEN AND THINGS THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT THAT THEY REALLY NEED TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL.

IF THEY CAN'T GO IN THEIR OWN VEHICLE OR HAVE SOMEBODY GIVE THEM A RIDE AND THEY HAVE TO GO BY AMBULANCE, IF THEY'RE STABLE ENOUGH TO GO ON THEIR OWN THEN WE'LL ENCOURAGE THAT. BUT IF THEY'RE IN SERIOUS DANGER, MEDICAL SITUATION WHERE THEY NEED TO BE TRANSPORTED BY AMBULANCE, WE CAN BE PRETTY CONVINCING.

AND WE'LL CALL MEDICAL CONTROL AND THE DOCTORS WILL TRY TO CONVINCE THEM AS

WELL. >> VIAGRAN: BECAUSE THIS DATA, 68% PAID BY COMMERCIAL INSURANCE, 20% PAID BY MEDICARE, MEDICAID. THAT'S IF THEY APPROXIMATE MEET A DEDUCTIBLE, IF THEY'VE MET THEIR DEDUCTIBLE.

MY OTHER CONCERN IS IF THEY HAVEN'T MET THEIR DID HE BUCKET I BELIEVE ARE WE INNETWORK OR OUT OF NETWORK FOR MOST INSURANCE PROVIDERS?

>> I'M NOT SURE. WE'RE OUT OF NETWORK? >> VIAGRAN: SO I COULD TECHNICALLY DO A RIDE, IF HAVE HAVE A 2,000-DOLLAR DEDUCTIBLE, WHICH I DO BECAUSE I HAVE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO INSURANCE, BUT I GET A RIDE, I HAVE TO TAKE AT LEAST TWO -- THREE RIDES TO MEET MY DEDUCT I BELIEVE BECAUSE YOU'RE OUT OF MY NETWORK, YOU'RE NOT IN NETWORK FOR BLUE CROSS/BLUE SHIELD.

I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO THINK ABOUT THIS BECAUSE HERE I AM TELLING MY RESIDENTS WE KNOW THERE'S A HEALTH CRISIS ON THE SOUTHSIDE, WE KNOW WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MEDICAL BEDS. WE NEED YOU TO BE PREVENTIVE IN CARE.

WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO GET AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, BUT YET YOU HAVE TO TAKE AN EMS RIDE EVER, YOU COULD BE IN FOR $1,500, DEPENDING HOW MUCH. DO WE HAVE THE INFORMATION ON HOW WE COMPARE TO THE OTHER AMBULANCE COMPANIES IN TOWN?

>> WE DO. WE'RE A LOT LESS EXPENSIVE, I GUESS YOU WOULD SAY, THAN DALLAS, HOUSTON, CORPUS CHRISTI. LET ME PULL THAT UP.

SO CITY OF HOUSTON IS $2,067. DALLAS IS 1578.

IF YOU'RE A RESIDENT. IF YOU'RE A NON-RESIDENT IT'S 1678.

CORPUS CHRISTI IS 1424. AND THEN THERE'S OTHER RANGES OF CITIES THAT ARE A

LITTLE BIT LESS. >> VIAGRAN: YEAH. I HAVE A REALLY BIG PROBLEM WITH THIS INCREASE, ONE BECAUSE WE'RE OUT OF NETWORK.

TWO, BECAUSE IF YOU GET SICK ON THE SOUTHSIDE IN AN URGENT CARE AND THEY NEED TO

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AND THE OTHER THING IS WE'VE GOT 12,000 EMPLOYEES PLUS HERE IN SAN ANTONIO, AND I DO NOT LIKE THE IDEA OF THEM PAYING US BACK TO TAKE A RIDE THAT THEY NEED TO EITHER SAVE A LEG OR PREVENT? BECAUSE THE ONE THING ABOUT -- AND BELIEVE ME, I LOVE OUR FIREFIGHTERS, OUR EMTS.

THEY ARE VERY CONVINCING. THAT'S WHY MOST PEOPLE GET -- THEY'RE LIKE YES, TAKE ME TO THE HOSPITAL. AND THEY CAN TELL YOU WHERE YOUR VISES IS AS YOU SIT THERE. -- WHAT YOUR CRISIS IS AS YOU SIT THERE AND THEY'RE DOING THE BLOOD WORK. I REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM. I KNOW WE NEED TO FIND MONEY IN OUR BUDGET, BUT A TRANSPORTATION FEE INCREASE IS ON THE PUBLIC SECTOR IS NOT THE WAY TO GO SO I WANT TO HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS.

THANK YOU, CHIEF. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER VIAGRAN.

COUNCIL MEMBER MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ. >> THANK YOU.

IT GAVE ME TIME TO LOOK AT SOME NUMBERS. I'LL GO BACK TO CHIEF.

I KNOW WE HAVE NOT SEEN AN IMPROVEMENT AS A RESULT OF THE 117 OFFICERS THIS YEAR BECAUSE THEY'RE STILL IN TRAINING BUT I DID WANT TO NOTE WE ADDED OVER 75 POSITIONS IN THE PREVIOUS BUDGET AND OVER 20 THE YEAR PRIOR SO OUR RESPONSE TIMES HAVE NOT IMPROVED DESPITE THAT AND WE'LL BE LOOKING AT 205 OFFICERS OVER A TWO YEAR PERIOD AND I EXPECT RESPONSE TIMES TO REFLECT THAT. THAT IS NOT YOU, CHIEF.

THAT IS LARGELY A LACK OF POLICY DISCUSSION. I LOVE THAT MY COLLEAGUE ASKED A LITTLE BIT AGO WHAT MONEY CAN WE GIVE YOU, CHIEF, TO MAKE OUR CITY SAFER? I'M ALMOST CERTAIN THAT HE WANTS TO HEAR YOU SAY THAT YOU NEED TO ADD A SUBSTATION TO EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD AND AT LEAST THREE OFFICERS ON EVERY CORNER. [LAUGHTER]. MANY MAY NOT WANT TO HEAR THAT IT MIGHT MEAN, YOU KNOW, SUPPORTING STANDUP SA.

IT MEANS WORKING WITH FORMERLY INCARCERATED PEOPLE, MORE HEALTH RESOURCES, IT MEANS SUPPORT FOR HOMELESS SERVICES OUTSIDE OF ABATEMENTS.

AND I'LL REITERATE THAT THOSE THINGS WORK. I DO WANT TO TOUCH ON COMMUNITY CRIME PREVENTION GRANTS. I APPRECIATE THERE ARE TWO ORGANIZATIONS THAT RECEIVED FUNDS THIS PAST YEAR. EASTSIDE ORGANIZATIONS DO NOT RECEIVE THE SAME FUNDS. BUT WE DO RECEIVE FUNDING FROM THIS VERY SMALL UNLIMITED GRANT. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ORGANIZATIONS RECEIVE THIS OPPORTUNITY AND MY NEXT POINT IS GOING TO BE SEPARATE FROM THIS FUND.

I AM INTERESTED IN MAYBE SOME MORE COMMUNITY ORIENTED SAFETY PROGRAMMING LIKE THIS. SO WHAT REVENUE STREAM DOES THIS COME FROM, THIS GRANT?

>> IT COMES FROM ASSET FORFEITURE MONEY. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: THANK YOU. I WAS TALKING WITH FOLKS ABOUT MIDNIGHT BASKETBALL, WHICH WAS ESTABLISHED AS A MEANS TO PREVENT VIOLENT CRIME AND PROVIDE STABILITY AND ACTIVITIES FOR YOUNG ADULTS AND YOUTH. HERE IN SAN ANTONIO IT GOT STARTED UP IN 2012. 2012ISH AND WAS FUNDED IN PART BY THE EASTSIDE PROMISE NEIGHBORHOOD GRANT. ANOTHER ORGANIZATION LAUNCHED BRIEFLY IN 2021, BUT I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT WENT, SO I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN EXPLORING OPPORTUNITIES TO RELAUNCH THE PROGRAM MIDNIGHT BASKETBALL AS A MEANS TO PROVIDE YOUNG PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE INVOLVED IN SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE DURING LATER HOURS. MAYBE WITH A DIRECTIVE OF SMALLER EASTSIDE ORGANIZATIONS. SO THIS MAY NOT BE A QUESTION FOR YOU BUT I'M WONDERING HOW WE MIGHT MAKE THIS HAPPEN? FI I MAY?

>> IF I MAY? >> RODRIGUEZ: SURE. >> SO THE MONEY IS OUT FOR GRABS. WE PUT OUT AN ANNOUNCEMENT AND DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS PUT IN FOR IT. AND ANYBODY CAN PUT IN FOR IT, THEY JUST HAVE TO

QUALIFY BASED ON -- CAN WE EXPLAIN -- >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: I AM SPEAKING SEPARATELY OF THIS FUND. SO ALLOW THIS FUND TO CONTINUE DOING WHAT IT'S DOING, BUT WHERE MIGHT WE FIND SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDS

TO DO SOMETHING LIKE... >> WELL, EITHER MORE ASSET FORFEITURE FUNDS IF IT'S AVAILABLE OR IF IT'S A PROGRAM THAT YOU'D LIKE TO EXPAND OR GET OFF THE GROUND, THE GENERAL FUND, REALLOCATING EXISTING DOLLARS.

YOU COULD CERTAINLY USE HOW MUCH MONEY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT?

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF MONEY? >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: I

DON'T THINK SO, I DON'T THINK SO. >> SAPF IS PROBABLY A GOOD OPTION IF IT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY. I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY THE

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SCALE OR SCOPE THAT YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: LET'S CHAT ABOUT IT, BUT I'M SAYING IT HERE PUBLICLY. I WANT TO TOUCH ON THIS, WE'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE CONFLICT BETWEEN SAPD AND THE DA'S OFFICE.

WE DO NOT PROVIDE OVERSIGHT OF THE DA'S OFFICE SO THE ONLY THING WE CAN DO IS MAKE SURE THAT OUR POLICE OFFICERS ARE DOING THEIR DUE DILIGENCE AND PROVIDING AS MUCH INFORMATION AS IS PERTINENT TO EACH AND EVERY CASE AS POSSIBLE.

I BELIEVE I MAY HAVE EXPRESSED THIS TO YOU BEFORE.

I HEAR CONCERN FROM CONSTITUENTS I GAVE THIS INFORMATION TO AN OFFICER AND THEY DIDN'T TAKE IT DOWN AND IT WAS PERTINENT INFORMATION THAT COULD HAVE LED TO A HIGHER BOND SET OR TO CATCH A PERSON COMMITTING CRIMES OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

AND ANOTHER EXAMPLE, I RECENTLY HEARD LAST WEEK THAT SOME OFFICERS USE TRI TECH AND IS SOME DO NOT AND THAT PREVENTS SOME OFFICERS HAVE HAVING INFORMATION NEEDED TO MAKE AN ARREST. AND I WORRY THAT WE SPEND SO MUCH TIME FOCUSED ON INCREASING THE NUMBER OF OFFICERS ON THE STREET THAT WE NEGLECT TO IDENTIFY ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT ITSELF, SPECIFICALLY THOSE KIND OF PROCESSES AND THE TRAINING REQUIRED TO MAKE THE DA'S WORK A LITTLE BIT MORE EFFECTIVE. WE COMPLETELY MISS OPPORTUNITIES TO MAKE OUR DEPARTMENT RUN BETTER. I WONDER YOUR THOUGHTS THERE AND HOW MIGHT WE BETTER -- HOW MIGHT OUR DEPARTMENT BETTER OPERATE IN ORDER TO MAKE THOSE THINGS NOT AN ISSUE? DO YOU HEAR WHAT I'M SAYING?

>> THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'M HEARING THIS, SO I'M NOT FAMILIAR --

>> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: I HEARD TRI TECH LAST WEEK. >> JESSE CAN ADDRESS THAT.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. WE WENT THROUGH THIS WITH THE CITY-COUNTY COLLABORATION THAT STARTED WITH THE MAYOR AND THE JUDGE LAST YEAR.

WE WORKED OUT OUR ISSUES. THERE ARE NO ISSUES WITH THE DA'S OFFICE.

THERE'S NOT AN ISSUE OF NOT PROVIDING INFORMATION TO JUDGES.

OUR OFFICERS ARE DOING THEIR JOBS. WHEN THEY DON'T DO A REPORT CORRECTLY, THE SUPERVISOR CATCHES THAT AND WILL MAKE THAT CORRECTION.

I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE TRI TECH ISSUE. ALL OUR OFFICERS HAVE ACCESS TO THE SAME TECHNOLOGY SO THERE'S THE SAME TECHNOLOGY ACROSS THE BOARD.

>> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: OKAY. THAT WAS A RECENT CONVERSATION WITH

[INDISCERNIBLE]. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ. COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA

GARCIA. >> ROCHA GARCIA: I JUST HAVE A FEW MORE QUESTIONS.

I'LL START WITH YOU, CHIEF. SO ON THE SLIDE WE HAVE THAT WE'VE BEEN CONSISTENTLY ARRESTING 30,000 PLUS RESIDENTS A, AND IF YOU CAN LATER GIVE ME A MAJORITY OF WHAT THOSE ARRESTS ARE FOR AND THEN HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE REPEAT OFFENDERS? BUT I KNOW THAT WILL TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME. BUT THEN, CHIEF, WHEN IT COMES TO THE VIOLENT CRIME REDUCTION PLAN, I THINK WE NEED TO PROBABLY MOVE A LITTLE BIT FASTER ON PHASE 2 AND THREE FOR SURE. I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.

AT A PREVIOUS PRESENTATION I ADDRESSED THE D4 NEIGHBORHOOD AND SPECIFICALLY IT WAS RAINBOW HILLS. THEY HAVE A HIGH VOLUME OF BOTH 911 CALLS AND A HIGH VOLUME OF 311 CALLS SO IT WAS RELATED TO THE GOOD NEIGHBOR PROGRAM, BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY ADDITIONAL RESOURCES OR STAFF IN THE AREA, NEITHER HAVE THE NEIGHBORS. SO I'M WONDERING IF WE HAVE AN UPDATE ON THAT OR WHERE WE'RE GOING OR HOW WE FEEL THAT'S DOING?

>> AND THIS IS GOOD NEIGHBOR, COUNCILWOMAN? >> YES, MA'AM.

>> MARIA VARGAS WHO IS OUR DIRECTOR OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICE, SHE HAS HIRED ALL THE POSITIONS AND SPENT HER TIME ON DOING ANALYSIS OF THE CALLS, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT PATTERNS WITH THOSE CALLS AND ALSO ADDING POLICIES.

SO I'M GOING TO ASK HER TO TELL YOU JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE IMPLEMENTATION,

WHICH I THINK IS WHAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN. >> ROCHA GARCIA: YES,

THANK YOU. >> YES, MARIA VARGAS, INTEGRATED COMMUNITY SAFETY. THE PHASE 2, THE VIOLENT CRIME PLAN, IS VERY SPECIFIC, IN THAT IT'S LOOKING AT LOCATIONS THAT HAVE EXPERIENCED PHASE 1 OF THE HOTSPOT VISIBILITY AND HAVE PERSISTENT VIOLENT CRIME ISSUES.

AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE SEEING A VERY SLOW BUT FOCUSED TARGETING OF PHASE 2 OF 1303 RIGSBY AND AT THE END OF THE SIX MONTHS OF THE TREATMENT WITH PHASE 2 AT RIGSBY WE WILL EVALUATE THE EFFECTS OF THAT AND UTSA WILL SELECT ANOTHER LOCATION THAT'S SPECIFICALLY A VIOLENT CRIME PERSISTENT HOTSPOT. IN PARALLEL TO THAT IS GOOD NEIGHBOR WHICH LOOKS AT BOTH 311 AND SAPD AND SAFD EMS CALLS, SO IT'S NOT JUST VIOLENT CRIME. AND WE'RE SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT ADDRESSES THAT HAVE 12 OR MORE CALLS FOR SERVICE WITHIN AN APPROXIMATELY 90 DAY PERIOD. WE'RE LOOKING AT A QUARTER AT A TIME.

SO THE KINDS OF LOCATIONS THAT CALL 12 OR MORE TIMES WITHIN THIS THREE MONTH TIME FRAME, THEY'RE NOT TYPICALLY HIGH PRIORITY CALLS WHICH ARE VIOLENT CALLS.

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AND JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE THREE QUARTERS THAT WE LOOKED AT INITIALLY LAST YEAR, FOR ADDRESSES, SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCES ONLY WITH 12 OR MORE CALLS, WE SAW 490 TOTAL ADDRESSES IN ONE QUARTER ALONE. THE SECOND QUARTER WE LOOKED AT WE HAD 776 ADDRESSES WITH ONE QUARTER ALONE. AND THEN THE THIRD QUARTER WE LOOKED AT 686 TOTAL ADDRESSES. AND SO I THINK THAT WE WERE ALL A LITTLE BIT SURPRISED AT THE SHEER VOLUME OF ADDRESSES CALLING 12 OR MORE TIMES. SO WE KNEW WE NEEDED TO DO SOME ENHANCEMENTS WITH THE PROGRAM JUST WITH THE SHEER VOLUMES THAT WE CAN IDENTIFY THE ADDRESSES THAT ARE IN NEED. AND ALSO I'LL GIVE YOU AN IDEA THE NUMBER ONE CALLER HAD 843 CALLS DURING AN QUARTER. ANOTHER QUARTER, 961 CALLS JUST FROM ONE ADDRESS. AND SO WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THE ADDRESSES THAT WE CAN COLLABORATIVELY COME TOGETHER TO ADDRESS THEIR ISSUES AND SO WE CAME UP WITH SOME ENHANCEMENTS, SPECIFICALLY AN INDEX TO HELP US OUTSIDE THOSE ADDRESSES THAT ARE EMERGENT. AND MY EMERGENT, I MEAN THEY COULD POTENTIALLY BECOME SOMETHING WHERE SOMETHING COULD HAPPEN, LIKE THE DOG ATTACKS OR MAYBE PERSISTENT NEIGHBORHOOD BLIGHT ISSUES. SO IN ADDITION TO THE CREATION OF MY OFFICE, WHICH IS ENHANCEMENT AND RESPONSE TO GOOD NEIGHBOR, WE HAVE THE GOOD NEIGHBOR INDEX, WHICH IS LOOKING TO BRINGING ALL THAT SILOED DATA FROM 311, FROM CAD, BRING IT ALL TOGETHER, HAVE IT MAKE SENSE TOGETHER AND THEN IDENTIFY HOW WE CAN BEST TRIAGE AND PRIORITIZE THESE HUNDREDS OF ADDRESSES THAT WE'RE SEEING EVERY QUARTER. SO WE'RE ACTIVELY DOING THAT RIGHT NOW AND WE DO HAVE A TIMELINE FOR THE GOOD NEIGHBOR TO BEGIN GOING BACK INTO EFFECT.

AND WITH TEST AND SIMULATION DATA SO WE KNOW WE'RE GETTING THE RIGHT ADDRESSES THAT WE NEED TO HIT. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT FY25 QUARTER ONE COMPLETING THE INDEX, COMPLETING OUR DATA ARCHITECTURE BECAUSE IT'S A LOT OF CALLS, A LOT OF CALL DATA AND A LOT OF GEOGRAPHIC CALL DATA. IT'S VERY HEAVY.

SO WE'RE DOING SOME ARCHITECTURE DESIGN. INTERNAL TESTING AND SIMULATIONS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE IDENTIFYING THE RIGHT PROPERTIES AND THEN IN FY25Q2 DOING SOME FIELD TESTING OF THAT AND SEEING HOW WE CAN BEST GET THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS COORDINATED IN COLLECTING THE DATA AND WHAT THEY ARE DOING WITH THE ADDRESSES AND THE OUTCOMES THEREOF. SO WE'RE LOOKING IN FY25 QUARTER 3 THE FULL IMPLEMENT INDICATION OF GOOD NEIGHBOR.

>> ROCHA GARCIA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU MAYOR PRO TEM.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO? >> JUST A COUPLE OF LAST PIECES. I'M NOT TOO SURE WHO IS RUNNING THE PD COMS, BUT THEY DESERVE A RAISE. I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND IT'S REALLY GOOD COMMUNICATIONS THAT YOUR TEAM HAS, WHETHER IT'S TALKING ABOUT JUST BEING EXTRA CAUTIOUS WITH VEHICLES OR WITH TRAFFIC CALMING AROUND SCHOOL ZONES, IT'S JUST VERY CREATIVE COMS, SO JUST WANTED TO GIVE RECOGNITION THERE.

>> THANK YOU. >> CASTILLO: AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE 911 CALLS FOR MENTAL HEALTH OPTION, DO WE KNOW WHERE THAT'S AT? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S STILL ONGOING WHEN FOLKS CALL 911, TO HAVE THE OPTION FOR MENTAL HEALTH?

>> YES, MA'AM, THEY CAN. THEY CAN REQUEST EITHER OUR MENTAL HEALTH TEAMS AND OUR TEAMS ALSO PROACTIVELY MONITOR THESE THINGS. SO CORE AND MENTAL HEALTH DO THAT AS WELL AS WHEN CALLS ARE COMING OUT SO THEY CAN RESPOND THAT WAY AS WELL.

>> CASTILLO: WHEN FOLKS CALL 911 IT'S BEING OFFERED AS A SERVICE?

>> I'M SORRY, COUNCILWOMAN. I THINK WHAT YOU'RE ASKING IS THIS AN OPTION TODAY, EMS, FIRE, POLICE AND MENTAL HEALTH? WE'RE NOT THERE YET.

>> OKAY. >> SO I MENTIONED EARLIER THAT WE PLANNED TO BRING A RECOMMENDATION IN MARCH IN TERMS OF ADDING THAT OPTION OR USING THE 988 NUMBER,

WHICH IS A SUICIDE LINE. >> CASTILLO: THANK YOU. AND IN TERMS OF SA-CORE GLAD TO SEE IT'S NOW MOVING TOWARDS 24/7. CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH THE PROCESS? IF THERE'S SOMEONE IN CRISIS AND PARK POLICE RESPONDS AND WE BELIEVE THAT SA-CORE OR THE POLICE NEED TO BE DEPARTMENT, DO THE PARK POLICE HAVE THE ABILITY TO CALL SA-CORE OR MENTAL HEALTH OR NOT?

>> YES, MA'AM, ABSOLUTELY. ANY OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT OR ANY OF OUR REGULAR PATROL OFFICERS, THEY'RE ALL CIT TRAINED AS WELL. YES, MA'AM, WE CAN DO THAT.

>> AND THEY'RE ALLOWED TO MAKE THE DETERMINATION. LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, IF A CONSTITUENT REQUESTS MENTAL HEALTH OR SA-CORE, OUR POLICE, THEY KNOW WE'RE

MAKING THE DETERMINATION THAT THAT'S NOT NECESSARY? >> AS FAR AS THE EMERGENCY

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>> CASTILLO: THANK YOU FOR THAT. IN REGARDS TO MUNI MUNICIPAL COURTS, WITH THE JUVENILE TRUANCY COURT I WANTED TO THANK YOU AND YOUR LEADERSHIP FOR DOING ALL YOU CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR YOUTH KNOW THAT THERE'S OPPORTUNITY AND LETTING THEM KNOW THAT IT'S NOT A BAD THING TO COME TO COURT, BUT TO NOT COME TO COURT. AND SEEING THOSE STATISTICS THAT FRED PRESENTED REGARDING HOW WE SAW AN INCREASE OF GRADUATION RATES OF STUDENTS WHO PARTICIPATED IS VERY IMPACTFUL. I'M CURIOUS IF THERE'S OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A PILOT WITH THE SAN ANTONIO AMBASSADOR PROGRAM? THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I'VE BROUGHT UP, IT'S LIMITED TO COLLEGE STUDENTS CURRENTLY, BUT A WAY TO HAVE YOUTH -- AT RISK YOUTH OR YOUTH GOING THROUGH STUDENTCY COURT TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE SAN ANTONIO AMBASSADOR PROGRAM TO COMPLETE THOSE COMMUNITY SERVICE HOURS, BUT ALSO GAIN A SKILL SET WHILE THEY'RE ACCUMULATING THOSE COMMUNITY SERVICE HOURS. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT Y'ALL HAVE TALKED ABOUT?

IS THERE OPPORTUNITY FOR A PILOT LIKE THAT? >> THAT'S NOT ANYTHING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT JUST YET, BUT THAT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK INTO. I KNOW THAT OUR JCMS ARE REALLY GOOD ABOUT REACHING OUT TO DIFFERENT COMMUNITY PARTNERS AS WELL AS DEPARTMENTS TO BENEFIT KIDS

IN THE TRUANCY PROGRAM. >> CASTILLO: THANK YOU. I BRING THAT UP BECAUSE ONE OF THE DELEGATE AGENCIES IN THE CITY, IN COMBINATION WITH SOME OF THE YOUTH THERE, THERE'S LIMITED OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN INTERNSHIP PROGRAMS BECAUSE WE VALUE THOSE WHO ARE IN COLLEGE OVER THOSE WHO ARE JUST CURRENTLY TRYING TO LEARN WHAT THE BEST PATH FORWARD FOR THEM IS.

AND I THINK WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO ALLOW OPPORTUNITY TO ANY CHILD WHO'S INTERESTED IN COMMUNITY SERVICE AND/OR THE SAN ANTONIO AMBASSADOR PROGRAM, BUT AGAIN,OUT THANK YOU TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM, IT WAS IMPRESSIVE TO SEE ALL THE FAMILIES THERE, VERY WELL ORGANIZED WITH THE RESOURCES AND THE COURT AS WELL AS JUST SEEING SO MANY FAMILIES PRESENT ENSURING THAT THEIR CHILD IS GETTING

CONNECTED TO YOU ALL. SO THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN.

WE DO HAVE ONE SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER 20TH AND SAISD HAS ALREADY GIVEN US THE NAMES OF STUDENTS. WE'LL BE REACHING OUT TO YOU AGAIN.

>> CASTILLO: AND SLIDE 15, IT'S DIFFERENT SHADES OF GRAY AND DIFFERENT SHADES OF BLUE. WOULD I BE ABLE TO BE PROVIDED A MORE DETAILED DESCRIPTION OF WHICH SCHOOL DISTRICT JUST SO I CAN UNDERSTAND HOW MANY EDGE WOOD STUDENTS AND HOW MANY SAISD STUDENTS ARE INCLUDED?

>> WE CAN DO THAT, ABSOLUTELY. >> CASTILLO: THANK YOU

MAYOR PRO TEM. >> MAYOR PRO TEM: THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER WHYTE. >> WHYTE: THERE WE GO. SO TO MY FRIEND, WHEN I ASKED THE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP INCREASE OUR PUBLIC SAFETY, THERE'S NO -- TO BE CLEAR, THERE'S NO ANSWER THAT I'M LOOKING FOR, RIGHT? I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT IS, PERIOD, RIGHT? AND I AM FULLY IN FAVOR OF YOUR ALL OF THE ABOVE APPROACH TO COMBATING CRIME, RIGHT? AND IF WE CAN GET AT THE ROOT CAUSES OF WHY CRIME HAPPENS, I'M ALL FOR IT, BUT

I AM, OF COURSE -- >> COUNCIL MEMBER, MAKE SURE YOU ADDRESS THIS WITH CARE,

PLEASE? >> WHYTE: I AM. I AM ALSO FOR MAKING SURE THAT WE DETER CRIME AND IT SEEMS LIKE WHAT OUR PLAN IS HERE, WHICH I LIKE, IS GETTING MORE OFFICERS ON STREET, ON PATROL, BECAUSE WE KNOW HISTORICALLY THAT THAT DOES DETER CRIME. SO MY QUESTION REALLY IS THIS: WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD IS WE'VE HAD 60 OFFICERS WHO HAVE RETIRED BETWEEN AUGUST OF '23 TO AUGUST OF 24.

AND WE'RE FUNDING IN THIS UPCOMING BUDGET 65 NEW OFFICERS.

SO TO SOMEONE OUT THERE THAT WOULD SAY, WELL, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE SORT OF BATTLING OUR RATE HERE AND JUST TREADING WATER, HOW WOULD WE RESPOND TO THAT?

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TO CHIEF OR TO IRE RICK? >> I'LL TAKE THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU -- COUNCILMAN COURAGE WAS ASKING ABOUT HOW THE RESPONSE TIMES COMPARE TO OTHER CITIES. THIS IS ANOTHER MEASURE BY WHICH IT'S HARD TO DISCERN WHAT'S BEING ADDED. YOU GUYS HAVE SPENT TIME THIS MORNING TALKING ABOUT THE 65 NEW OFFICER POSITIONS, BUT WE HAD A SLIDE IN THE PRESENTATION THAT SAID WE HAD FIVE CADET CLASSES THIS YEAR AND WE HAVE FIVE NEXT YEAR.

NEXT YEAR WE'RE PROJECTING TO ADD 255 NEW POLICE OFFICERS INTO THE POLICE

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SO RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT 94 VACANCIES IN OUR 7710 OFFICER DEPOSIT.

THAT'S A 3.4 VACANCY RATE, SO WE HAVE A RELATIVELY LOW VACANCY RATE AND WE ARE SHOOTING TO ADD 255. THE 65 IS JUST THE NEW INCREMENT.

AND BOTH CHIEFS TALKED ABOUT THIS EARLIER. AND TO A LESSER DEGREE THE NUMBERS ARE A LITTLE BIT SMALLER ON THE FIRE SIDE, WHETHER WE HAVE RETIREMENTS, TERMINATIONS, CHANGEOVER, MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THE ENGINE AT THE ACADEMIES TO BE ABLE TO TRAIN. THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET WE ADDED 17 -- WE ADDED 17 OFFICERS PRIMARILY IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, SO THAT WE COULD RUN FIVE CLASSES. WE KNEW 12 MONTHS AGO, AND SOME OF YOU WILL REMEMBER, THAT IN ORDER TO KEEP THAT THROUGH-PUT MOVING, THAT ENGINE HUMMING, WE NEEDED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD THE RESOURCES. SO SOME CITIES WOULD HIGHLIGHT THEIR PROPOSED BUDGET AND SAY, WE'RE ADDING 255 OFFICERS.

WE DON'T DO THAT. WE FOCUS ON JUST THE INCREMENT AND THE NEW ADD.

>> WHYTE: RIGHT. SO JUST SO I'M CLEAR, LAST YEAR WE SAID WE NEEDED 360 MORE OFFICERS, I THINK IT WAS, RIGHT? AND WE SAID WE WOULD DO IT OVER A THREE TO FIVE-YEAR TIME PERIOD. AND SO IF -- YOU KNOW, I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF OFFICERS WITH BETWEEN 27 AND 30 YEARS EXPERIENCE, SO THERE COULD BE 60 OFFICERS EACH OF THESE NEXT FEW YEARS RETIRING.

SO IF WE HAVE THAT MANY RETIREMENTS AND WE ADD THE 65 EACH IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS, ARE WE GOING TO BE WHERE WE WOULD BE AT THE END OF THE FIVE YEARS?

>> I'M SURE WE WILL AS LONG AS THE COUNCIL CONTINUES TO PRIORITIZE PUBLIC SAFETY IN TERMS OF SPENDING. AND COUNCILMAN, IF I HAD A NICKEL FOR EVERY TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THE RETIREMENT OF OFFICERS PUTTING US AT A DETRIMENT WE WOULDN'T HAVE A DEFICIT NEXT YEAR IN THE BUDGET. IT GOES BACK TO THAT SLIDE THAT THEY'RE SHOWING RIGHT NOW. AS LONG AS WE HAVE AND SCHEDULE AND HAVE THE RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO RUN 240, 250, 255, THEN WE'LL BE FINE. AND IF WE START TO SEE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE CHIEF DIDN'T ANSWER EARLIER TO COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA, WE USE DATA EITHER INTERNAL TO THE DEPARTMENTS EITHER OFFICERS OR FIREFIGHTERS PLANNING ON RETIRING, AND WE ALSO USE THE PENSION FUND. THE FENCE FUND DOES THEIR ANNUAL SURVEY TO GET AN IDEA. WHAT WE CAN'T ACCOUNT FOR ARE THE TERMINATIONS.

AND THANKFULLY THOSE AREN'T THAT MANY. [BUZZER].

BUT WE USE THAT DATA TO BE ABLE TO DRIVE THE SCHEDULING AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE APPROPRIATELY FUNDED THOSE CLASSES AND THOSE REPLACEMENTS.

>> WHYTE: OKAY, THANKS. >> MAYOR PRO TEM: THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? IF NOT I'M GOING TO FINISH THIS OFF WITH POLICE.

IF WE COULD GO AHEAD AND PUT UP SLIDE 10. AND I KNOW WE'VE HAD A LOT OF TALK ABOUT TECHNOLOGY AND TECHNOLOGY IS OUR FRIEND, BUT AS LONG AS WE MONITOR IT AND TAKE CARE OF IT. BUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE PHASE 2 AND THE DIFFERENT PHASES, AND I KNOW A LOT OF THIS CAME FROM UTSA AND THEN WE'RE TRYING TO KIND OF BALANCE IT OUT WITH WHAT WE SEE OUR COMMUNITY SAYING. ONE THING THAT I SEE MY COMMUNITY SAYING IS THEY WANT TO GIVE Y'ALL INFORMATION FROM THE NEXT DOOR APP. SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH CITIZENS ON PATROL OR MAYBE A NEW CLASS WHERE IF YOU'RE ON THE NEXT DOOR APP, WHAT IS LEGITIMATELY A CALL AND WHAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS KIND OF AN EXAGGERATION? BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN THIS HAPPEN. AND I HAVE VOLUNTEERS IN THE SOUTHSIDE, THE DIFFERENT AREAS THAT ARE READY TO GET ON THE PHONE WITH THE POLICE AND SAY THIS IS WHAT I'M HEARING. IS THIS LEGIT OR NOT? BECAUSE WE'VE HAD QUITE A FEW OF THOSE. SO I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT.

FOR NUMBER 12, SLIDE 12, YOU KNOW, THE ONE THING I THINK WE NEED TO FOCUS ON IS WHO WE ARE IN SAN ANTONIO. AND WE ARE A CITY THAT HAS A LOT OF DREAMERS AND IMMIGRANTS. AND CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW IN TEXAS DREAMERS WHO WERE BROUGHT OVER WHEN THEY WERE YOUNG CANNOT SERVE ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, IS THAT

TRUE? >> CORRECT. >> AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE MADE EXCEPTIONS FOR THIS, AND I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WE KIND OF NEED TO EXPLORE, WE NEED TO TALK TO OUR STATE LEGISLATORS ABOUT DOING THIS

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AND I THINK ABOUT STUDENTS THAT I TAUGHT WHEN I WAS A FOURTH GRADE TEACHER, AND MY STUDENTS THAT IF TODAY AS THEY'RE IN THEIR 30S THEY COULD SERVE ON THE DEPARTMENT, THEY WOULD. AND THEY WOULD BE REALLY SMART AND REALLY GOOD, BUT BECAUSE OF THEIR STATUS THEY CAN'T. SO I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE THAT. CHIEF, DO YOU WANT TO TALK A LITTLE ON THAT?

>> I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN. MY MOST RECENT CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT WAS WITH ANOTHER CITY HERE IN TEXAS, AND WE WERE LAMENTING OVER THE FACT THAT IT IS A STATE LAW AND I DON'T KNOW OF ANY OF THE CHIEFS THAT ARE OPPOSED TO

THAT. I WOULD BE ALL FOR IT. >> THAT'S GREAT TO KNOW.

AND THEN ON SLIDE 14 -- THERE IT IS, I JUST NEEDED Y'ALL TO SEE THAT.

[LAUGHTER]. I WANT TO SAY -- SOUTH ON MAYFIELD AND EAST ARE DOING A GREAT JOB, BUT I REALLY DO -- I REALLY AM EXCITED ABOUT THIS.

MY CONSTITUENTS ARE EXCITED. WE'LL BE HAVING ANOTHER INPUT MEETING IN JUST A FEW WEEKS SO I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

AND THEN TO SHARE WITH MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES IN TERMS OF THE GUNSHOTS, I THINK WE DO NEED TO TALK THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION TO OUR REPRESENTATIVES ABOUT IF SOMEONE IS DISCHARGING A WEAPON IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, WE NEED TO SEE IF THERE CAN BE SOME DISTINCTION WHETHER THEY'RE JUST, YOU KNOW, OUT IN A FIELD PRACTICING, YOU KNOW, WITH THEIR GUN VERSUS THIS. SO I THINK THAT THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO THERE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO WORK WITH OUR STATE ON THAT. AND I DO WANT TO IMPLORE, YOU KNOW, LONDON DOES CCTV ALL THE TIME, BUT I HEAR THE SLIPPERY SLOPES CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE HAVING, BUT I REALLY AM -- WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS MOVE OVER TO DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY IN TERMS OF MONITORING AND WOULD LOVE TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION.

I MISS PUBLIC SAFETY SOME DAYS ABOUT DRONE TECHNOLOGY AND HOW WE CAN DO THAT TO HELP JUST KEEP THINGS ACTIVE AND DETER CRIME. SO I WANT TO THANK YOU, CHIEF, FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK. AND IF THERE'S NO OTHER

CONVERSATION -- YES. >> [INAUDIBLE]. >> YOU ONLY GET ONE MORE TIME. IT WOULD BE FOR SOMEBODY WHO HASN'T TAPPED IT TWICE.

>> JUST A QUICK CLARIFICATION. >> SORRY, ERIK, GO.

>> JUST A QUICK CLARIFICATION. I SAID 17.

WE ONLY ADDED FIVE TO THE ECONOMY. ANOTHER 12 WERE FOR SA-CORE, SO THE FIVE WE ADDED THIS YEAR TO BE ABLE TO ADD THE NUMBER OF INSTRUCTORS WE

NEEDED. >> [INAUDIBLE]. >> ALL RIGHT.

ONE MORE QUESTION. WHAT ARE WE AT PATROLWISE? FOR THE GOAL?

60/40. >> WELL, NUMBER ONE, THOSE OFFICERS AREN'T OUT OF THE ACADEMY. THAT WAS THE ANSWER THE CHIEF GAVE EARLIER.

THE FIRST ROUND OF THEM WILL BE OUT ON THEIR OWN THIS NOVEMBER.

SO NEXT SPRING -- THIS TIME NEXT YEAR THEY'LL START TO IMPACT THE -- ACTUALLY,

EARLIER IN THE SUMMER. >> I APOLOGIZE. FOR THE PERCENTAGE, SO IF THE GOAL IS FOR POLICE OFFICERS TO BE 60% PROACTIVE, 40% RESPONSIVE, WHAT IS THE AVERAGE PERCENT FOR OFFICERS OF THAT RIGHT NOW?

>> WE'RE STILL AT 40/60 RIGHT NOW. >> OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> BECAUSE THEY'RE STILL IN TRAINING. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER. I'M TOLD THAT COUNCIL MEMBER VIAGRAN LOST CONTROL OF THE MEETING. [LAUGHTER]. I'M JUST KIDDING.

COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA AND THEN WE'LL WRAP UP. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

REALLY FAST, CHIEF, I FORGOT TO ASK. ON THE SOUTH PATROL IN PARTICULAR, I KNOW DISTRICTS THREE AND FOUR, WE HAVE A HUGE GEOGRAPHIC AREA, AND SPECIFICALLY I'VE BEEN TOLD BY SOME OF OUR OFFICERS THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME TYPE OF EQUIPMENT TO GET INTO KIND OF LIKE BACKWAY ALLEYS AS SOME OF THE OTHER STATIONS HAVE, IN PARTICULAR ATVS. AND I'M WONDERING HOW OFTEN DO YOU DO KIND OF LIKE A RECAP OF ALL OF THE ITEMS AVAILABLE PER POLICE STATION

AND HOW EVERYBODY GETS ALLOCATED THAT? >> THAT'S TYPICALLY DONE BY

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I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING LATELY THAT ANYBODY WAS MISSING AN ATV OR NEEDED AN

ATV, BUT WE CAN CHECK ON THAT. >> ROCHA GARCIA: YES, PLEASE. IF I COULD REQUEST A CHECK-IN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> MAYOR NIRENBERG: THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA. THANKS EVERYBODY. GREAT PRESENTATIONS, GREAT DISCUSSION. WE HAVE A 2:00 MEETING AS WELL, BUT AT 12:11 P.M. ON THIRD DAY OF SEPTEMBER, 2024, WE ARE ADJOURNED.

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