* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:03] ALL RIGHT. WE'LL BE LIVE STREAMING. WE GOOD? ARE WE CLEAR? ALRIGHT. OKAY. WE'RE GOOD TO GO. UH, GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. JEREMY MCDONALD, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT, CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TODAY. THIS IS A, UH, BOARD MEETING FOR THE BUILDING RELATED FIRE CODES, APPEALS AND ADVISORY BOARD. UH, WE DON'T HAVE OUR CHAIR OR OUR CO-CHAIR. SO BEFORE WE GET THE MEETING STARTED, WE JUST WANT TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT A BOARD MEMBER THAT CAN KIND OF HELP LEAD THE MEETING. I THINK, UH, WE'RE GOOD WITH, UH, BRIAN SMITH, IF EVERYBODY'S OKAY WITH THAT. ANY OBJECTIONS OR CONCERNS? OKAY. I KNOW WE CAN DO BETTER, BUT HE'LL DO . EXCELLENT. YOU CAN. OKAY. WELL THEN, UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED, UH, WITH BRIAN SMITH AS OUR ACTING CHAIR FOR THE MEETING. THANK YOU, BRIAN. GREAT CALL IN THE MEETING ORDER. GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. THE TIME IS NOW 1 0 5 ON SEPTEMBER 6TH, 2024. MY NAME IS BRIAN SMITH AND I AM THE CHAIR OF THE BUILDING RELATED FIRE CODES APPEALS AND ADVISORY BOARD OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. I HEREBY CALL THIS MEETING INTO SESSION. CAN WE HAVE OUR INTERPRETERS READ THE INTERPRETATION SERVICES AVAILABLE FOR THIS MEETING, PLEASE? GREAT, THANK YOU. UH, STAFF, CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? AND WE ALSO JUST, UH, FOR THE RECORD, WE ALSO HAVE A SL INTERPRETATION AVAILABLE IF, IF NEEDED. OKAY. ALRIGHT. [ Roll Call  ] UH, SO ROLL CALL LEWIS LES. PRESENT. JEFF BYER. SCOTT BERGER. PRESENT. RON CMES. PRESENT. GREG MCFARLAND. A ADRIAN CONTES. MAX HOSFORD. SPENCER ROSZEL. GEORGE SALIVA. PRESENT. GARY KONZ. EDWARD DELTORO. PRESENT. ROBERT HENLEY. HERE. LONG COLBERTSON? HERE. MICHAEL RUST. MARK ROSS. SHAW. SHAW. BRIAN SMITH PRESENT. JOE LAOS. HERE. WILLIAM BURRIS. PRESENT. KAREN CARPENTER. HERE. JACK UP MOORE AND FRANK LEY. JEREMY, WE DO HAVE KO. POINT, POINT, POINT OF ORDER ON THIS. YEAH, IF YOU HAVE BOTH THE PRIMARY AND THE ALTERNATE. DO THE, AND THERE'S ACTION ITEMS. DID THE ALTERNATES GET TO VOTE? NO, THE VOTE WILL GO TO THE PRIMARY AS LONG AS THEY'RE STILL AT THE TABLE. HE WAS NODDING IN HIS HEAD, SO I TOOK IT FROM THE LEGAL STAND, BUT I APPRECIATE THE POINT OF ORDER. OKAY, THANK YOU. I DO WANNA REMIND ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS, UH, WHEN YOU ARE USING THE MICROPHONE, YOU WANNA SPEAK, UH, PLEASE BE ABLE TO TURN IT ON SO THAT THOSE WATCHING LIVE AT HOME AND ON THE RECORDING, UH, CAN SEE AND HEAR YOU PLEASE. [ Approval of Minutes  ] UH, HAS EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE FALL BOARD MEETING MINUTES? IT WAS ON JULY 26TH, 2024. THIS IS ROBERT HANLEY. I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE MEETING MINUTES FROM JULY 26 UNLESS THERE'S ANY MODIFICATIONS OR CHANGES BY ANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS AND RON KAMAS. I WOULD SECOND THAT MOTION. SO I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. DO I HAVE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A AYE. AYE. THOSE NEGATIVE. THE AYES CARRY. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU BRIAN, FOR OFFICIALLY GETTING US THROUGH THE AGENDA. ITEM NUMBER ONE, UH, JUST FOR THE RECORD, UH, CHAIR JACK, JACK UP. MOORE HAS JOINED US. UH, SO WE'LL ADD HIM TO THE ROLE AS WELL. UH, THIS CAME IN AFTER THE APPROVAL OF THE MEETING MINUTES. JUST HE'S GOT, I GAVE HIM IT. OH, THIS IS THE ONE THAT'S ON ALL TIME. OKAY. SORRY. APOLOGIZE FOR THE DELAY. I, EVERYBODY'S GOT A BUSY SCHEDULE. I'M DEALING WITH SOME MAJOR EMBEZZLEMENT IN MY COMPANY AND IT'S CAUSING A LOT OF TIME. SORRY TO HEAR THAT JACK. UM, BUT I DO APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. OBJECT NUMBER TWO. ALRIGHT. THIS, WE HAD MOTION. I ALREADY DID ALL THAT RIGHT? YOU DID GOOD. I'M GONNA HIRE YOU. BRIAN. CAN'T AFFORD HIM. UH, [ Briefing and Possible Action on the following items  ] GEN . ITEM NUMBER TWO. WE'RE GONNA NEED THE PRESENTATION BY THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES STAFF [00:05:01] ON THE PROPOSED PROCESS FOR REVIEWING AND ADOPTING OUR 2024 INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL BUILDING RELATED CODES AND 2023 NATIONAL FIRE PROTECTION ASSOCIATION, NATIONAL ELECTRIC CODE. THANK YOU CHAIR. UH, ONCE AGAIN, JEREMY MCDONALD DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT. SO, UH, WE'RE HERE TO TO TO START THE PROCESS OF THE, UH, ADOPTION OF THE 2024 CODES. UH, WE DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF CITIZENS HERE. EVERYBODY'S PART OF THE BOARD. EVERYBODY WAS ON THE BOARD WHEN WE ADOPTED THE 2021. SO I'LL MAKE THIS FAIRLY BRIEF. UH, WE DID HAVE SOME COMMUNITY MEETINGS ALREADY, UH, AND THERE'LL BE PLENTY OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH AS PART OF THIS. UM, BUT AS EVERYBODY'S AWARE, WE DO HAVE THE, THE CODES, THEY ARE FOUND ONLINE, BOTH THE INTERNATIONAL CODES AND THE NFPA. UH, NFPA ISS A LITTLE BIT MORE CHALLENGING. YEAH, I THINK YOU HAVE TO REGISTER WITH NFPA. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A RE UH, PAID MEMBER, BUT, UH, BE ABLE TO PULL IT UP. BUT YOU CAN LOOK AT ALL THESE CODES ONLINE. UH, THE ONE THING WE WANT TO HIGHLIGHT, UH, IS THAT WE WILL NOT BE ADOPTING THE 2024 ENERGY CO CONSERVATION CODE. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL OF THE OTHER 2020, UH, I ENERGY CODE, I'M SORRY, I CODES, UH, THAT ARE TYPICALLY ADOPTED, BUT WE'LL MAY REMAIN UNDER THE 2021, UH, FOR THE ENERGY CODE AND THEN MOVE FORWARD, UH, THE 2020 SEVENS ADOPTING THE FULL FAMILY OF CODES AT THAT TIME. SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE FOCUSING ON TODAY IS THE STARTING OF THE SUBCOMMITTEES, UH, GETTING THOSE CREATED. UH, JUST AS A REMINDER OF SUBCOMMITTEES ARE, ARE FORMED FROM BOARD MEMBERS. WE NEED TO HAVE FOUR TO SEVEN BOARD MEMBERS AND ALTERNATES. THE ALTERNATES DON'T HAVE TO BE YOUR ALTERNATE ON THE PRI ON THE, ON THE MAIN BOARD. SO, UH, CASE IN POINT, WE HAVE BOTH OUR FIRE PROTECTION UNIT ENGINEERS HERE, WILLIAM BURRS BEING THE PRIMARY. KAREN CARPENTER BEING THE ALTERNATE. WHEN WILLIAMS WANTS TO JOIN A SUBCOMMITTEE, HE COULD HAVE ANOTHER ALTERNATE BE HIS ALTERNATE FOR THAT SUBCOMMITTEE. BESIDES KAREN, I THINK WHAT WE'LL PROBABLY DO IS HAVE IT FOLLOW THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. BUT THERE ARE SOME POSITIONS THAT DON'T HAVE ALTERNATES. I'D LIKE TO TRY TO HAVE ALTERNATES IN ALL MY, FOR ALL THE POSITIONS ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE. SO AT LEAST AS A FALLBACK, WE CAN HAVE SOMEBODY JOIN US. BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE SAME DISCIPLINE, SAME THING. THE PRIMARY DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE PRIMARY ON THE BOARD. SO IF SAY WE DID HAVE BOTH PRIMARY AND ALTERNATE ON THAT SUBCOMMITTEE, THEY COULD ALTERNATE FOR THAT SUBCOMMITTEE AND SAY THE ALTERNATE IS GONNA BE THE PRIMARY FOR THIS ONE. SO, SO FOR BOTH OF THEM ARE AT THAT MEETING, THE VOTE FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEE WOULD GO TO THE ALTERNATE. SO IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING. I'LL TRACK THAT AND MAKE, MAINTAIN THAT AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE THE, UH, THE BOARD AWARE OF THAT. UM, AND ALSO THE BIG CHANGE, THIS, THIS LAST, THIS YEAR IS THE CHANGE WE MADE BACK IN, IN, WHEN WAS THIS? I THINK IT WAS, UH, MARCH THAT WE MADE THE OFFICIAL DECISION THAT WE WOULD ALLOW NON-BOARD MEMBERS, UH, THEY COULD ALWAYS JOIN THE SUBCOMMITTEE THAT WAS PRIOR, BUT THEY NEVER COUNTED TOWARDS QUORUM AND THEIR VOTES DID NOT COUNT TO ANY OFFICIAL DECISION MADE BY THAT SUBCOMMITTEE. UH, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED ALL THAT BACK IN AUGUST. THE CHANGES Y'ALL RECOMMENDED BACK IN MARCH, THAT ALLOWS THEM TO COUNT TOWARDS QUORUM AND COUNT TOWARDS A VOTE. UH, AS PART OF THAT SUBCOMMITTEE, THEY CAN BE ONE TO FOUR NON APPOINTED, UH, NON-BOARD MEMBERS. UNLESS THERE'S ONLY FOUR BOARD MEMBERS, THEY ALWAYS HAVE TO BE ONE LESS. SO IF THE SUBCOMMITTEE IS CREATED OF FOUR BOARD MEMBERS, THEN THEY CAN ONLY BE THREE MAXIMUM OF NON BOARD MEMBERS. THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT TO HAVE ANY. SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ONE, IT'S JUST THE NUMBER OF THEM IS ONE TO FOUR. IF WE CHOOSE TO, UH, ADD THEM ON, THEY CAN BE ADDED EITHER BY THE FULL BOARD OR BY THE SUBCOMMITTEE. UH, THE ONLY THING THAT IS A REQUIREMENT FOR THEM IS THAT THEY BE A CITIZEN OR RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. THE FULL BOARD CAN WAIVE THAT REQUIREMENT. WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING TO CREATE FIVE SUBCOMMITTEES. GO AHEAD. UH, WILLIAM. UH, YES. YOU SAID THE, UH, THESE, UH, NON-BOARD MEMBERS, UH, HAVE THE ABILITY TO VOTE. THAT'S VOTING WITHIN THE SUBCOMMITTEE, BUT NOT IN THE LARGER BOARD MEETING. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT, YEAH. THEY WOULD BE REGULATED TO JUST THE SUBCOMMITTEE. UM, SO WE'LL HAVE SUB FIVE SUBCOMMITTEES AS THE INTENT, UH, FOR THIS, THIS ROUND OF SUB, UH, CODE ANALYSIS AND EVALUATION AND, UH, CREATING THE AMENDMENTS. UH, THE FIRST WILL BE ABLE TO BE THE BUILDING AND FIRE. THE BUILDING AND FIRE WILL BE LOOKING AT THE INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE, THE INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTIAL CODE, THE INTERNATIONAL FIRE CODE, AND THE INTERNATIONAL EXISTING BUILDING CODE. SO THIS IS THE SAME. WE'VE, AS WE FOLLOWED THIS LAST CYCLE, THERE'LL BE A MECHANICAL, A MECHANICAL WILL BE LOOKING AT THE INTERNATIONAL MECHANICAL CODE AS WELL AS THE MECHANICAL CHAPTERS OF THEIR INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTIAL CODE. AS A REMINDER, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE IRC, IT'S A BOOK THAT'S GOT BOTH, UH, BUILDING MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING, AND ENERGY. WE ONLY ADOPT THE BUILDING AND THE MECHANICAL OF THE IRC. SO PLUMBING REQUIREMENTS FOR A RESIDENTIAL HOME FALL UNDER THE IMC OR THE IPC AND THE NEC REGULATES THE ELECTRICAL. SO THE ONLY TRADE THAT THAT GETS PICKED UP IS THE, THE, UH, MECHANICAL. SO THE MECHANICAL GROUP WILL BE LOOKING AT THOSE CHAPTERS OF THE IRC AS WELL. ELECTRICAL WILL BE LOOKING AT THE 2023 NATIONAL ELECTRICAL CODE. PLUMBING WILL BE DOING THE PLUMBING CODE AND [00:10:01] THE FIRE, FUEL AND GAS CODE. UM, THAT'S A MISPRINT. I KEEP FORGETTING TO MISS, FIX THAT ONE. BUT YEAH, IT'S THE FUEL AND GAS CODE, NOT THE FIR AND GAS CODE. THAT'S OPPOSITE OF WHAT WE WANT, UH, WHEN REGULATING THIS . UH, AND THEN FINALLY WE HAVE THE SWIMMING POOL CODE, THE ONE THAT WE, UH, STARTED ADOPTING BACK IN 2018. UH, SO WE'LL HAVE A, UM, A SUBCOMMITTEE TO REVIEW JUST THE SWIMMING POOL CODE. HEY, JEREMY, CAN I ASK? YES, SIR. A QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION. YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING TO ME EARLIER ABOUT WHAT'S THE DEADLINE TO GET PEOPLE ON THE SUBCOMMITTEES? SO THE SUBCOMMITTEES, I'LL MAKE IT AN AGENDA ITEM FOR EACH SUBCOMMITTEE THAT CAN MAKE THAT DECISION. OR AT LEAST MAYBE THAT FIRST ONE. I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO, UH, EACH OF THE SUBCOMMITTEES. SO THEY'LL WANT ME TO KEEP IT ON AS AN AGENDA ITEM FOR THE FOLLOWING, UH, MEETINGS. AFTER THAT, MAYBE THE BIGGER ONE, WE MIGHT LEAVE IT OPEN. THE REAL DEADLINE RIGHT NOW WAS IF THEY WANTED TO GET THE WAVE OF THE RESIDENCY. SO IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO JOIN A SUBCOMMITTEE, AND TODAY'S REALLY THE ONLY BOARD MEETING THAT WE HAVE SCHEDULED, UH, MOVING FORWARD, UNLESS WE HAVE AN APPEAL COME IN OR SOMETHING ELSE COME UP, WE PROBABLY WON'T MEET AGAIN UNTIL DECEMBER AT THE END OF THIS PROCESS. AND AT THAT POINT, IT'LL BE TOO LATE. SO ANYBODY CAN KIND OF SEND IN AN APPLICATION AND THE SUB, I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO EACH SUBCOMMITTEE ON HOW MUCH THEY WANNA LEAVE THAT OPEN. UH, IF THEY WANNA SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT, NO, WE'RE DONE OUR FIRST MEETING. YOU KNOW, NOBODY'S GONNA JOIN AFTER THIS. WHICH MAKES SENSE. UH, BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S STILL OPEN. IF SOMEBODY SENT ME A SUBCOMMITTEE REQUEST APPLICATION, THEY ARE A CITIZEN OR RESIDENT OF THE CITY, I WOULD PRESENT THAT TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE AT THE FIRST MEETING AND THEN KINDA GO FROM THERE. SO FIRST MEETING IS NEXT TUESDAY FOR THE PLUMBING. SO DEADLINE'S PRETTY SHORT, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, MECHANICAL CODE UNTIL I THINK AROUND NOVEMBER TIMEFRAME. SO YEAH, WE'LL SEE THAT ON THE NEXT SLIDE. SO THE OVERALL TENTATIVE TIMELINE, UH, FOR THIS IS THE BIG, THE BIG LIFT IS THE SUBCOMMITTEES. UH, WE CURRENTLY HAVE 20 MEETINGS, UH, PROPOSED, UH, TO REVIEW THOSE ACROSS THOSE FIVE SUBCOMMITTEES. WE'LL BE DOING THAT STARTING IN THIS, THIS SEPTEMBER THROUGH NOVEMBER. ONCE THOSE ARE FINALIZED, THE GOAL IS TO BE ABLE TO GET IN FRONT OF THE FULL BOARD AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. THERE'LL BE THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE, UH, TALKING ABOUT THE CHAPTER 11 CHANGES FOR THE IFC. UH, BUT FOR THIS BOARD, UH, HAVING MEETINGS IN DECEMBER, KINDA ANTICIPATING THREE MEETINGS, UH, FOR THAT. SO FINISHING UP THE SUBCOMMITTEE MEETINGS BEFORE THANKSGIVING. IT'S A LATE THANKSGIVING, I THINK IT'S THE 28TH THIS YEAR. SO THE VERY LAST, UH, FULL WEEK OF, OF THANKSGIVING OF NOVEMBER. AND THEN WE WILL, UH, MEET THE FIRST THREE WEEKS IN DECEMBER TO TRY TO FINALIZE EVERYTHING SO THAT WE CAN THEN MOVE TO PCDC, THE PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, THAT'S A COMMITTEE OF CITY COUNCIL MADE UP OF FIVE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. THEY WILL BE THE FIRST ONES TO HEAR THE PROPOSALS. IF THEY ARE GOOD WITH THAT, THEN THEY WOULD APPROVE US TO GO TO FULL CITY COUNCIL. THAT COULD HAPPEN FAIRLY QUICKLY. UM, IF ONCE WE GET THROUGH PCDC, WE COULD BE AT CITY COUNCIL THE VERY NEXT WEEK OR TWO WEEKS AFTER THAT. UH, BUT THE, THE BIG ONE IS TRYING TO GET IN THE AGENDA FOR PCDC. SOMETIMES THOSE FILL UP PRETTY QUICKLY. BUT WE'RE HOPING, UM, IF THINGS ARE MOVING SMOOTHLY WITH THE BOARD AND THE SUBCOMMITTEES, WE CAN KIND OF BE LAYING THOSE SEATS THAT WE CAN TRY TO BE THERE FOR JANUARY TIMEFRAME WITH A JANUARY CITY COUNCIL. UH, AS ALWAYS, WE DON'T WANT TO IMMEDIATELY MOVE INTO, ONCE CITY COUNCIL APPROVES ANY OF THE AMENDMENTS AND THE ADOPTION OF THE 2020 FOURS AND SAY, OKAY, THAT'S THE FIRST DAY THAT HAPPENS. WE KNOW, UH, THE DESIGN PROCESS TAKES A LONG TIME, SO WE WANT TO GIVE KIND OF A GRACE PERIOD OF ONCE IT'S BEEN ADOPTED, EVERYBODY'S HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE AMENDMENTS AND THEY'RE NOT HAVING TO DESIGN UNDER THOSE IMMEDIATELY. UH, TYPICALLY WE TRY TO DO ABOUT 90 DAYS, DEPENDING ON WHAT DAY, UH, WE GET TO COUNCIL. UH, BUT WE'RE KINDA LOOKING AT APRIL 1ST AS THE POTENTIAL START DATE. MAYBE MOVING IT A LITTLE BIT LATER IN APRIL, IF WE WERE LATE IN JANUARY, EARLY FEBRUARY FOR COUNCIL. UH, BUT THAT EARLY SPRING, UH, SECOND QUARTER OF THE, OF THE CALENDAR YEAR FOR THE ADOPTION OFFICIALLY BY CITY COUNCIL, UH, OR BY THE CITY AT THAT POINT IS WHEN ANY SUBMITTALS AFTER THAT FOR ANY NEW PROJECTS WOULD HAVE TO BE UNDER THE NEW CODES. UM, THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE APPLICATIONS ONLY, NOT, UH, WHAT WE CALL A PLAN, A PRELIMINARY PLAN REVIEW. UH, SOMETIMES YOU CAN, UH, MEET, MEET, MEET WITH US, REVIEW SOME DRAWINGS BEFORE YOU OFFICIALLY SUBMIT THOSE. THOSE WON'T LOCK IT IN. IT'S AN ACTUAL APPLICATION, UH, SITE WORK APPLICATION WOULD, UH, LOCK 'EM IN THOUGH. SO, UH, REALLY JUST AT ENTRY LEVEL, ANY QUESTIONS ON THE TENTATIVE TIMELINE IN THAT PROCESS? YES, WILLIAM, WILLIAM BURRIS. UH, JUST SO I UNDERSTAND, SO IF A PROJECT IS UNDER DESIGN, UM, AND MAYBE AT THE 60% STAGE, UM, AT, IN APRIL, AND THEN THEY UNDER PREVIOUS CODES, BUT THEN THEY SUBMIT IN MAY OR OR, OR LATER, CAN THEY STILL STAY? I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT GOES IN UNDER THE PREVIOUS CODES FOR THE DESIGN GROUP. UH, CAN THEY REMAIN UNDER THAT? IS THERE, THERE USED TO BE LIKE A SIX MONTH GRACE PERIOD? I THOUGHT 90. YEAH, 90 DAYS IS KIND OF, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OVER THE PLAN I VIEW, AND SHE CAN MAYBE SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THAT. SO WE COULD LOOK AT THAT ON A, UH, CASE BY CASE BASIS. BUT TRADITIONALLY WE'VE [00:15:01] SAID, HEY, JANUARY MID-JANUARY, THIS IS WHEN, UM, EVERYTHING HAS BEEN APPROVED, ORDINANCE IS IN PLACE AND IT WILL BE IMPLEMENTED, YOU KNOW, APRIL 1ST OR 15TH, OR, OR, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE, ONCE WE GET TO THAT POINT, WE WILL HAVE A BETTER TIMEFRAME OF THE ABSOLUTE DATE. BUT WE DO A LOT OF OUTREACH. WE GO TO ALL OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS TO LET THEM KNOW THIS PROCESS HAS STARTED APRIL ONE'S OUR DATE. SO RIGHT NOW ON SEPTEMBER 6TH, WE KNOW APRIL ONE'S THE DATE THAT WE'RE IMPLEMENTING THE 24 CODES. SO WE TRY TO GIVE THAT NOTICE. UM, BUT IF YOU'RE COMING WITH A, YOU KNOW, 30 STORY HIGH RISE, WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR PROJECT TOOK LONGER THAN SIX MONTHS AND THOSE CHANGES ARE GONNA BE SIGNIFICANT. UM, SO WE CAN LOOK AT THAT AS THE CASE BY CASE BASIS, BUT TRADITIONALLY, IT'S, IT IS THAT DAY, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT ONCE WE'VE ADOPTED IT, IF SOMEBODY, HEY, I'M AHEAD OF SCHEDULE AND I WAS PLANNING ON APRIL 1ST, WE WOULD ACCEPT IT UNDER THE 2020 FOURS IN JANUARY OR IN FEBRUARY ONCE IT'S BEEN ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL AND BE LIKE, HEY, YOU'VE BEEN DESIGNING UNDER THAT ANTICIPATING, BUT YOU DON'T WANNA WAIT FOR US TO THAT OFFICIAL DATE. CORRECT. YEAH, WE, WE CAN MAKE THAT, UM, ARRANGEMENT AS WELL. UH, BUT IT'S NOT A PICK AND CHOOSE. IT IS. EVERYTHING COMPLIES WITH THE NEW CODES GOING INTO EFFECT. UM, YOU DON'T GET TO PICK, OH, JUST THE 2023 NEC. UH, THAT'S ALL THE CHANGES THAT WE'VE MADE. UM, IT, IT'S ALL OR NOTHING. THANK YOU. SO THAT'S, ONCE AGAIN, THE OVERALL, UH, SCHEDULE FOR TRYING TO GET THE, THE OFFICIAL DO, UH, CODES ADOPTED, AS I MENTIONED, THE SUBCOMMITTEES OR THE HEAVY LIFT ON GETTING THROUGH THIS 20 MEETINGS CURRENTLY SCHEDULED, UH, TO REVIEW THAT. I'VE SENT THESE OUT. NONE OF THE DATES HAVE CHANGED. UM, WE WE'RE LETTING EVERYBODY KNOW THIS IS TENTATIVE, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THIS, UH, ABOUT THIS TIMEFRAME. WE'RE TRYING TO BE, UH, FAIRLY CONSISTENT. UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THEY HAVE TO BE IN THIS BOARDROOM. THEY DO HAVE TO BE OPEN MEETINGS. SO WE HAVE TO UTILIZE THIS BOARDROOM SO THAT WE CAN RECORD IT AND PUT IT OUT THERE TO THE, UH, SO WE'RE KINDA LIMITED ON AVAILABILITY. WE HAVE A FEW OTHER, UH, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS WE HAVE TO WORK AROUND THAT, UH, MEET ON REGULAR SCHEDULES, BUT THEY KIND OF BOUNCE ME AROUND. SO REALLY THE FOCUS WAS THE BUILDING AND FIRE CODE COMMITTEE. WE ANTICIPATE 10 MEETINGS FOR THAT. UH, AND WE ANTICIPATE 10 MEETINGS FOR THE OTHER, UH, SUBCOMMITTEES. SO WE'RE GONNA DO TWO MEETINGS A WEEK. WE'RE THE BUILDING AND FIRE CODE COMMITTEE MEETING ON THURSDAYS. FRIDAYS. THEY ALTERNATE A LITTLE BIT AS THE ROOM'S AVAILABLE. AND THEN THE OTHER ONE'S MEETING ON, UH, I BELIEVE MONDAYS AND TUESDAYS ALTERNATING A LITTLE BIT AS THE BUILDING, AS A BUILDING'S AVAILABLE, UH, FOR USE, UH, WITH ALL OF 'EM, WITH THE 9:00 AM START TIME NOW. ONCE WE TALK ABOUT THAT AND WE'RE LOOKING MEETING WITH THE SUBCOMMITTEES, WE'RE NOT ADVERSE TO, UH, CHANGING THAT AS NEEDS OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND, AND DSD STAFF. UH, WE'LL PUT THAT OUT THERE. WE JUST NEED TO MEET THE 72 HOUR NOTICE REQUIREMENTS, UH, TO MAKING THAT CHANGE. UH, BUT THAT'S THE INTENT IS TO TRY TO STAY AS CLOSE TO THIS AS WE CAN, BUT MOVING AROUND IF WE NEED TO, TO MAKE SURE WE'RE MEETING QUORUM. UM, I PUT THESE OUT THERE. THE ONLY THING I MAY HAVE NOT, I THINK I'VE ADDED WAS, UH, THIS KIND OF WHAT CODE WE'RE LOOKING AT AND ANTICIPATING. UH, AS YOU CAN KINDA SEE, WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THREE, THREE MEETINGS FOR THE BUILDING. MAYBE BE ABLE TO START THE FIRE CODE. WE KNOW THE FIRE CODE USUALLY IS SOME OF THE BIGGEST LIFTS FOR THAT GROUP. SO IT MIGHT TAKE THREE AND A HALF, UH, TO GO THROUGH THAT ONE RESIDENTIAL CODE. AND THEN I'LL SAY A WRAP UP. USUALLY WHAT'S HAPPENED THERE IS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE KIND OF GONE THROUGH ALL THE CODES. WE HAVE SOME SIGNIFICANT QUESTIONS THAT COME OUT OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS, AND WE DON'T SLOW DOWN THAT PROCESS AND GET STUCK IN THE BUILDING CODES AND NOT MOVE TO FIRE CODES OVER ONE ITEM. SO WE MIGHT HOLD OFF UNTIL WE GET A LITTLE BIT LATER INTO THE PROCESS. BUT I'LL KEEP THE AGENDA OPEN SO THAT WE CAN KIND OF GO BACK BETWEEN THESE CODES AS NEEDED AND, AND WRAP THEM UP. BUT, YOU KNOW, OVERALL WE'RE THINKING TOTAL OF 10, 10 WEEKS FOR THAT GROUP. UH, PLUMBING CODE WILL BE THE FIRST ONE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. UH, SO THOSE COMMITTEE MEETINGS WILL START NEXT WEEK. WE'RE ANTICIPATING THREE MEETINGS FOR THE PLUMBING CODE AND THE FUEL GAS CODE. ELECTRICAL CODE WILL BE THE NEXT ONE FOR THAT. WE ARE, UH, HOPING TO GET THAT ONE IN. OUR CHIEF, UH, IS GONNA BE ON EXTENDED LEAVE STARTING AT A LITTLE BIT LATE OCTOBER. SO IDEALLY, UH, WE'RE GETTING THAT TAKEN CARE OF, UH, BEFORE VALERIE C**N, OUR CHIEF ELECTRICAL, UH, GOES ON THAT EXTENDED LEAVE. IF NOT, OF COURSE WE'LL WORK AROUND THAT. UH, BUT THE GOAL IS TO MAYBE GET THAT ONE WRAPPED UP IN THREE MEETINGS. UH, WE DO KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF CHANGES THOUGH, SO WE'LL, WE'LL KIND OF SEE HOW THAT ONE GOES. AND THEN FINALLY, UH, THE MECHANICAL COMMITTEE, UM, THAT ONE WENT PRETTY QUICK, SO WE'RE THINKING THAT ONE SHOULD EASILY WRAP, BE WRAPPED UP IN THREE. YES. BRIAN, BRIAN SMITH. UH, WHAT ARE YOU TENTATIVELY SETTING OUT FOR LENGTH OF TIME FOR EACH MEETING? POSSIBLY TWO HOURS. UM, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, CRYSTAL'S GONNA HANDLE THE TECHNICAL SIDE, SO SHE'LL BE PRESENTING TO EACH OF THE SUBCOMMITTEES AND SHE'LL HAVE AN IDEA OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, HOW FAR INTO EACH ONE WE GO. I THINK TWO HOURS IS PROBABLY GONNA BE THE MOST THAT WE WOULD WANT TO GO. IT STARTS TO GET KIND OF HARD TO SIT THERE AND READ THAT SAME POWERPOINT AND AND REVIEWING THE CODE, YOU KNOW, KEEP PEOPLE BUDGET. YEAH. UM, YOU KNOW, AND IT, OF COURSE, IT'D BE UP TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE. THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT TO TO HAVE A HARD END AT 11. WE CAN LEAVE A LITTLE BIT EARLY IF, IF THERE'S A NEED FOR IT. OR WE CAN ALSO EXTEND, [00:20:01] UH, IF YOU'RE SAYING, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE CAN WRAP THIS UP AND NOT HAVE TO MEET NEXT WEEK AND, AND FREE EVERYBODY UP, THEN YOU KNOW, IT, IT IS AN OPEN ENDED. WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE ROOM AT LEAST THROUGH NOON, UH, TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT HAVING ANY OTHER ISSUES. YES, ROBERT? YEAH. THIS IS ROBERT HENLEY. UH, JEREMY, UH, CONSIDERING ALL THE OTHER PARTICULAR ORGANIZATIONS THAT USE THIS ROOM, DO WE HAVE A TIMEFRAME, UH, THAT WE'RE GONNA TRY TO STICK TO, LIKE TWO HOURS IN THE MORNING, TWO HOURS IN THE AFTERNOON ON THESE SUBCOMMITTEE MEETINGS? THAT'S KIND OF, YEAH, I MEAN, TWO HOURS WILL BE THE DEFAULT, I BELIEVE, WITH THE ABILITY TO USE THE ROOM UP UNTIL NOON AT THE LATEST. UH, MAYBE EVEN A, I I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WANTS TO GO BEYOND THREE HOURS ON ANY OF THESE MEETINGS. I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS ON THE BOARD THAT WAS ABOUT, THAT WAS WHERE I TAPPED OUT AND I WAS LIKE, I, I DON'T WANNA LOOK AT THE CODE ANYMORE. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY THAT THAT'S GONNA BE, THE INTENT IS PROBABLY ABOUT TWO HOURS. AND I THINK WE'VE KIND OF STRUCTURED WHEN WE DID A, YOU KNOW, WE'RE KIND OF DOING THESE NUMBERS, THESE NUMBER OF MEETING REQUIREMENTS BASED OFF OF OUR INTERNAL REVIEW. OUR MEETINGS HAVE BEEN TWO HOURS, AND THAT'S ABOUT THE NUMBER OF MEETINGS THAT WE NEEDED TO COMPLETE THOSE. UH, SO THAT'S KIND OF, UH, THE BASIS FOR THAT. YEAH, I WAS JUST TRYING TO DECIDE, IS IT GONNA BE FROM NINE TO 11 OR IS IT GONNA BE TWO TO FOUR OR WHATEVER? IT'S GONNA BE EIGHT, NINE. OKAY. YEAH. THEY'LL ALL BE AT NINE O'CLOCK. YEAH. THE, THAT'S THE DEFAULT GO FOR. YEAH. UH, YEAH. SO THE DEFAULT WILL BE 9:00 AM FOR EACH OF THEM. BUT ONCE AGAIN, WE CAN MOVE THOSE AROUND, UH, AS WE, YOU KNOW, FILL THE SUBCOMMITTEES THE NEXT DAY. WE KNOW IF WE CAN DO THAT. SO YEAH, HE'S GIVEN US SOME FLEXIBILITY. WHAT ABOUT BOOKS? GET THE BOOKS TODAY? YEAH, I HIT 'EM SO THAT NOBODY, I PUT 'EM IN HERE YESTERDAY. I DIDN'T WANT ANYBODY TO SEEN A BUNCH OF BAGS. BUT NO, I DO, I DO HAVE EVERYBODY'S BOOKS READY TO GO. I DIDN'T GO THAT WAY. YEAH. I HAVE A QUESTION. ARE WILL, IN INCLUDED IN THOSE DOCUMENTS, WILL WE RECEIVE FOR THE VARIOUS CODES, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO'S DEVELOPMENT SERVICES RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CHANGES FOR MODIFICATIONS? THAT WILL BE PART OF CHAPTER 10. I'LL LET CRYSTAL YES. THOSE WILL BE SENT OUT PRIOR TO, PRIOR TO ANY OF THE, UH, SUBCOMMITTEE MEETINGS. OKAY. YEAH. SO WE'RE STILL MEETING INTERNALLY, UM, WITH A COUPLE OF THE CODES, BUT WE'VE WRAPPED UP MOST OF THOSE AND IT'S JUST GOING BACK AND MAKING, UH, MAKING IT LOOK PRETTY LIKE WE DID LAST TIME WITH THE CODE SECTION, THE TITLE, THE SUMMARY OF THE CHANGE, AND THEN THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. OKAY. UM, QUICK QUESTION, JEREMY. YES. UH, GEORGE SALIBA, UH, CRYSTAL, THEN IF, SINCE THE PLUMBING IS STARTING TUESDAY NEXT WEEK, WHEN DO I GET THAT STUFF? YOU'LL, THIS AFTERNOON. OKAY. WE JUST, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY WAS GOOD. THE SUBCOMMITTEE WAS SET WITH THESE DATES AND TIMES AND, AND TRY NOT TO JUNK THE GUN TO JUST SEND IT TO GEORGE. WHO ELSE IS ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE. SO MAKE SURE WE GET THOSE, UM, OUT TO ALL OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBERS. RON CMA. SO WE, UH, TODAY YOU NEED TO KNOW OF ANY CONFLICTS THAT WE HAVE WITH THE DATES THAT ARE PRESENTED. THE SOONER YOU'LL KNOW IS LET US KNOW, THE BETTER. UM, AND WE CAN AMEND FROM THERE. 'CAUSE THE GOAL IS TO, FOR THE COMMUNITY, IS TO HAVE ANY CHANGES OUT THERE. I MEAN, AS FAR AS STAFF AND, YOU KNOW, AND THE AVAILABILITY BEING THE KIND OF THE, THE FIRST ONE IS Y'ALL'S AVAILABILITY AND THE AVAILABILITY OF THE ROOM. THOSE, THOSE NEED TO COINCIDE. AND ONCE WE GET THAT FIGURED OUT, WE'LL FIGURE OUT STAFF. BUT WE ALSO WANNA GIVE AS MUCH NOTICE TO THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE AS, AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. OKAY. SO I'LL, I'LL LET YOU KNOW THAT THE, UH, THE OCTOBER 2ND MEETING, I WILL BE OUT OF TOWN THAT ENTIRE WEEK. OKAY. . OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. UM, MOVING ON. SO, UH, THIS IS ONCE AGAIN MORE FOR THE PUBLIC. UH, BUT IF, IF Y'ALL ARE INTERESTED, OF COURSE WE HAVE OUR WEBSITE, UH, SA SPEAKUP.COM. I'M NOT SURE IF Y'ALL HAVE REALLY INTERACTED WITH THAT. THAT'S KIND OF THE MAIN FORMAT THAT THE CITY USES TO COMMUNICATE WITH ITS, UH, RESIDENTS AND THE COMMUNITY ALL LARGE. YOU CAN GO TO SCP CUP.COM. YOU'LL SEE EVERY SINGLE MEETING, UH, WHETHER IT BE CITY COUNCIL TO EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE BOARDS. YOU CAN GET A LIST OF ALL THE DIFFERENT BOARDS THAT ARE OUT THERE, TRACK ALL THOSE GET LINKS TO ALL THE VIDEOS. SO ALL THESE MEETINGS ARE, ARE LOGGED THERE. AND THEN WE ALSO CREATE EVENTS AND PROJECTS. THIS IS A PROJECT, UH, SO THERE'S A, THERE'S A HEADING AND IT SAYS PROJECTS AND SURVEYS, AND YOU CAN CLICK ON THAT AND YOU'LL FIND US, OR YOU CAN JUST PUT IN THE A 5 4 2 4 AFTER SENDING TO SA SPEAKUP.COM. AND IT GOES DIRECTLY TO THIS. AND THAT'S WHERE YOU CAN FIND ALL THE MEETING INFORMATION WHERE WE'LL HAVE THE TRACKING INFORMATION. A LOT OF THIS, UH, THESE PRESENTATIONS WILL BE ON THERE. IT'S JUST OUR COMMUNITY HUB THAT WE'LL BE PUTTING THIS OUT THERE. WE'LL STILL BE COMMUNICATING WITH Y'ALL. ONE-ON-ONE, ALL THE MEMBERS THAT JOIN A SUBCOMMITTEE, I WILL SEND Y'ALL MEETING INVITES. IT'LL BE ON Y'ALL'S. I MIGHT RELAY ON THAT TO BE Y'ALL'S POINT OF CONTACT. UH, BUT THAT WOULD BE OUR POINT OF CONTACT FOR THE, FOR [00:25:01] THE CITIZENS IN THE, IN THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE. AND OF COURSE, UH, WE ALSO CREATED AN EMAIL ADDRESS. SO IF ANYBODY HAS ANY REQUESTS, THEY CAN'T MAKE A MEETING, BUT THEY WANT TO PROPOSE AN AMENDMENT, UH, OR IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THEN BUILDING CODE UPDATES@SANANTONIO.GOV. IF Y'ALL WANT TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW ABOUT THAT ONE. IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROCESS, THEY CAN EMAIL US ON THAT. WE HAVE A LOT OF STAFF TIED TO THAT THAT CAN EITHER ANSWER, YOU KNOW, MEETING QUESTIONS LIKE, WHEN'S THIS GONNA HAPPEN? UH, OR TECHNICAL QUESTIONS. YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THIS PROCESS? OR I PROPOSE THIS AMENDMENT. THE LAST THING WE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT, UH, WAS THE DIFFERENT LOOK FOR THE CODES. UH, WHEN YOU GET YOUR CODE BOOKS, YOU'LL SEE HOW ICC IS MOVING TO A DIGITAL FORMAT. UM, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A BIG PUSH ON THEIR END. N FPA IS GOING THROUGH THE SAME THING. EVERYTHING IS A MORE DIGITALLY FOCUSED AND THEY'RE TRYING TO CREATE THE CODES AND MAKE THEM READ A LITTLE BIT EASIER FOR A DIGITAL FORMAT. UH, VERSUS A, UM, A PRINTED FORMAT. ONE OF 'EM IS THE TRACKING OF CHANGES FROM THE 2020 ONES TO THE 2020 FOURS. UH, WHAT YOU SEE IN THE PICTURE ABOVE IS THE DETAILS FROM A 2021 CODE BOOK, TALKING ABOUT YOUR BOLDED BLACK LINE ALONG THE SIDE THAT INDICATES A CHANGE, AN ARROW FOR WHEN THINGS WERE ADDED OR ASTERISK. ALL OF THAT'S GONE NOW. NOW REALLY ALL YOU'LL SEE IS YOU GO TO A NEW SECTION. THERE'LL BE A UR CODE THAT YOU CAN HIT WITH YOUR PHONE. BUT ALL THAT DOES IS REALLY OPEN UP THAT CODE SECTION, UH, ON YOUR PHONE. AND THEN YOU CAN SCROLL DOWN AND FIND THE BLUE LETTERING. AND I GOT A PICTURE OF THAT NEXT, BUT THERE'S REALLY NO INDICATION OF CHANGES ON THE PRINTED CODE BOOK ANYMORE. SO AS YOU'RE REVIEWING THOSE CODE BOOKS, WHEN YOU TAKE 'EM HOME TODAY, THAT'S THE BIG SIGNIFICANT CHANGE. UH, SO AS WE'VE BEEN INTERNALLY REVIEWING THEM, WE'VE BEEN JUST PULLING 'EM UP ON OUR COMPUTER. I'LL GET EVERYBODY THE PASSWORDS. UH, SO YOU CAN PULL 'EM UP HERE IF YOU WANNA BRING YOUR LAPTOP, FEEL FREE. UH, BUT YOU CAN, UH, BUT YOU CAN, WE ALL HAVE TERMINALS OVER HERE. WE'LL BE USING THE DAIS, UH, DURING THE SUBCOMMITTEE SO YOU CAN PULL THOSE UP. SO IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT EASIER FOR Y'ALL TO KIND OF TRACK THAT. UH, SO HERE'S KINDA THE FORMAT. IT'S THE SAME AS WHAT IT WAS PREVIOUSLY. SO THE TOP PICTURE IS A 2021, UH, CODE ONLINE, AND IT SHOWS YOU THE BLUE. IT DOESN'T GO INTO A LOT OF DETAIL OF, OF WHAT THAT CHANGE IS. SO YOU DON'T KNOW IF IT'S AN ADDITION OR REWORDING OR WHAT IT IS, BUT YOU CAN LEAVE AS YOU'RE GOING THROUGH FIND IT. AND THEN THE 2020, UH, FOUR VERSION IS THE SECOND PICTURE. NOW WE DO, I THINK CRYSTAL HAS ACCESS TO THESE, UM, PREMIUM CODE INSIGHTS. SO DURING THE MEETINGS, IF WE NEED TO, WE CAN PROBABLY PULL THOSE UP AND UH, FEED THOSE. BUT MOST OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND INFORMATION WE'RE PROVIDING IS OFF OF THOSE AS WELL AS SOME OTHER STUFF. BUT I'M NOT SURE IF YOU WANTED TO DISCUSS THAT ANY AS WELL. YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO JUMP IN HERE REALLY QUICK TO SAY, A LOT OF THE BLUE THAT YOU'LL SEE IS REWORDING. UM, THERE WAS NO CHANGE TO THE INTENT OF THE CODE, NO CHANGE TO OUR INTERPRETATION OR, UM, CHANGES TO DESIGN TEAM OR INSPECTIONS. SO THOSE I HAVE JUST SKIPPED OVER. SO WE WON'T STOP TO TALK ABOUT HOW THEY ADDED AUTOMATIC IN FRONT OF SPRINKLER SYSTEM THROUGHOUT THE CODE OR HOW THEY CHANGED OCCUPIABLE OCCUPIED ROOF TO OCCUPIABLE ROOF, RIGHT? SO YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF BLUE AS YOU'RE SCROLLING THROUGH, BUT IF IT'S JUST REARRANGING, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE IT ALL IN A PARAGRAPH AND NOW THEY HAVE IT IN A LIST. WE'RE, WE'RE NOT GONNA STOP TO TALK ABOUT THOSE. IF YOU GUYS ARE OKAY WITH THAT. THERE'S NO CHANGE TO THE INTENT OR, UM, INTERPRETATION OF THE CODE. SO YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF BLUE AS YOU'RE SCROLLING. UM, BUT A LOT OF THAT WILL JUST PASS OVER. ALRIGHT, SO THAT WAS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO. NO ACTION ON THAT ONE. THAT WAS JUST, UH, STAFF PROVIDING SOME INFORMATION TO THE BOARD IN THE, ON THAT PROCESS. SO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE. UH, THIS GOES BACK TO OUR MEETING BACK IN MARCH. UH, ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, THAT CAME OUT OF THE APPOINTMENT WAS CREATING SOME BYLAWS ON HOW WE WOULD ADOPT OR APPOINT NON-BOARD MEMBERS TO THESE SUBCOMMITTEES. UM, WE CAN PULL UP THAT BYLAW REAL QUICK. SO WE, WE HAVE OTHER BYLAWS, THIS WOULD BE AMENDED TO THAT. UH, BUT OVERALL WHAT WE WOULD LOOK AT IS JUST APPROVE THIS OUTREACH TO SOLICIT QUALIFIED, DIVERSE CANDIDATES TO SERVE AS NON APPOINTED MEMBERS WILL BE COMPLETED, UH, COMPLETED BY STAFF. WE'VE DONE THAT. WE'VE REACHED OUT AND WE'VE HAD, UH, APPLICATION ONLINE@SCPCUP.COM. WE'VE HAD COMMUNITY MEETINGS. WE'RE LETTING EVERYBODY KNOW, UH, IT'S BEEN LIVE FOR MORE THAN TWO WEEKS. IT'S GONNA CONTINUE TO BE LIVE. LIKE I SAID, THE REAL HARD DEADLINE WAS MORE FOR THE WAIVING OF THE RESIDENCY. UM, THE APPLICATION PROCESS SHALL BE OPEN FOR AT LEAST TWO WEEKS WITH AN ADDITIONAL TIME BEING, UH, SPECIFIED BY THE BOARD. UH, SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING. IF AS A SUBCOMMITTEE Y'ALL COULD SAY, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WON'T TAKE ANY MORE, UM, APPLICATIONS AFTER THIS DATE OR Y'ALL CAN LEAVE IT OPEN. UH, BUT WE'LL HIT THAT TWO TWO WEEK MINIMUM. ONCE THE APPLICATION PROCESS HAS BEEN CLOSED, BOARD MEMBERS, UH, WILL BE ABLE TO REVIEW THE APPLICATIONS FOR CONSIDERATION. THE CHAIR OF THE BOARD OR SUBCOMMITTEE, UH, SHALL CALL FOR MOTION TO EITHER HOLD INTERVIEWS OR ELECTIONS. IF A MOTION WAS APPROVED OR FOR INTERVIEWS, SUCH INTERVIEWS SHALL BE SCHEDULED. THIS IS UP TO THE BOARD. SO ONCE AGAIN, THE WAIVING OF THE RESIDENCY AS A BOARD REQUIREMENT, BUT SUBCOMMITTEES CAN BE THE ONES THAT APPOINT NON-BOARD [00:30:01] MEMBERS OR CAN BE THE BOARD. SO, UH, IT'S UP TO Y'ALL TODAY IF Y'ALL WANT TO ADD ANYBODY, THE APPLICANTS, AND WE'LL REVIEW THE THREE THAT WE DID RECEIVE. IF Y'ALL WANNA ADD ANY OF THEM TO ANY OF THE BOARDS CURRENTLY. IF Y'ALL JUST WANNA SAY, HEY, LEAVE IT UP TO THOSE SUBCOMMITTEES AND YOU KNOW, THEY CAN DO THOSE AS FIRST ACTION ITEMS. WE HAVE THAT AS AGENDA AVAILABLE. THE CHAIR. UM, AT THE CONCLUSION OF INTERVIEWS, THE CHAIR SHALL CLOSE THE INTERVIEW PROCESS AND SHALL THEN CALL FOR A MOTION REGARDING ELECTIONS, ADDITIONAL INTERVIEWS OR REQUEST TO EXTEND TIME FOR MORE APPLICATIONS. IF A MOTION OR FOR ELECTION IS APPROVED, SUCH ELECTIONS CAN, MAY TAKE PLACE AT THE SAME MEETING OR AT THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE BOARD OR SUBCOMMITTEE. THIS IS A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILED. I THINK WHEN WE HAVE LIKE SAY, SIGN CODE REVIEW, WE'RE GONNA GET A LOT MORE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT. THAT PROCESS MIGHT TAKE A FEW MEETINGS AND, UH, AS WE KIND OF SAW IN THE LAST ROUND OF THE SIGN CODE, I'M NOT SURE IF WE'LL GET THAT SAME COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT ON THESE SUBCOMMITTEES, BUT IT'S, IT'S AN OPTION OF SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT. UH, YES. WILLIAM, UH, BULLET ITEM NUMBER FIVE, THE INTERVIEWS THE CHAIR SHALL, UM, CALL FOR MOTION REGARDING ELECTIONS OF THESE INDIVIDUALS? IS IT, DOES THE SUBCOMMITTEE OR THE BOARD, DOES IT HAVE TO BE UNANIMOUS OR IS IT TWO THIRDS OR, UM, JOSEPH, YOU WANNA WEIGH IN ON THAT ONE IF IT'S NOT DEFINED. YEAH, IT IS. JUST WOULD BE A SIMPLE MAJORITY OF WHATEVER. YEAH. WHICH IS UNIVERSAL WITH ALL THE OTHER, UH, ANY OTHER ACTION TAKEN BY THIS BOARD AND SUBCOMMITTEE SAYS MAJORITY. SO I THINK. OKAY. UH, ANY THOUGHTS, COMMENTS, ANY CHANGES Y'ALL WANNA RECOMMEND FOR THE BYLAWS OR, YEAH, THIS IS ROBERT HANLEY. I I JUST WANTED TO GET A CLARIFICATION AND JOSEPH, YOU CAN PROBABLY ANSWER THIS, BUT WHY IS THERE A LIMITATION ON A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO? BECAUSE EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM THAT, UH, IS REPRESENTING THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, BECAUSE JUST BECAUSE YOU LIVE IN BONA HEIGHTS DOESN'T MEAN YOU DON'T WORK IN THE REST OF THE CITY WHERE THESE CODES ARE APPLICABLE. I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT RESTRICTION. THE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENTS ARE KIND OF A, A STANDARD FOR, IT COMES OUTTA CHAPTER TWO OF THE CITY CODE. IT'S KIND OF A STANDARD FOR ALL ACROSS, ACROSS THE CITY. UM, BUT THERE ARE PROVISIONS, UM, TO WAIVE THAT. AND SO YOU'LL SEE THAT, UH, FOR INSTANCE, CITY COUNCIL WILL WAIVE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENTS ALL THE TIME FOR VARIOUS BOARDS AND STUFF. SO IT'S, WE JUST KIND OF TOOK THAT SAME PROCESS AND IMPLEMENTED IT HERE. YEAH. YEAH. AND IT'S, I MEAN, TECHNICALLY REQUIREMENT FOR THIS BOARD AS WELL AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO WAIVE EVERY NOW AND THEN. OKAY. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS, QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? SO THIS WOULD BE AN ACTION ITEM. IF Y'ALL WANT TO, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE CHAIR TO KINDA DISCUSS IT. SO BASICALLY WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION ACCEPTING THESE BYLAW CHANGES FOR THIS PROCESS. YEAH. YOU CAN ACCEPT 'EM AS PRESENTED AND THAT THAT SHOULD SUFFICE IT UNLESS Y'ALL WANNA HAVE ANY CHANGES. WE CAN DOCUMENT THOSE CHANGES NOW AND THEN Y'ALL CAN, UH, ACCEPT AS, AS PRESENTED THEM. ANYBODY HAVE ANY CHANGES THAT THEY WANNA MAKE BEFORE, BEFORE WE GET A MOTION PRESENTED? EVERYBODY'S GOOD. GO AHEAD. BRIAN SMITH. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS SHOWN. ROBERT HANLEY. I'LL SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. ALRIGHT, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR, PRESENTATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE APPLICATIONS TO JOIN SUBCOMMITTEES ON NON-BOARD MEMBERS TO REVIEW THE 2024 I CODES IN THE NEC. SO I, WE'VE RECEIVED THREE APPLICATIONS. UH, TWO OF THEM ARE, UH, INDICATED THAT THEY ARE RESIDENTS OF THE, OF THE, UH, CI CITY. ONE OF THEM DID NOT INDICATE, I ASKED FOR CLARIFICATION, BUT I DIDN'T GET A RESPONSE BACK. SO IT MAY POTENTIALLY BE, I CAN PULL THOSE APPLICATIONS UP IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT THOSE OR, UM, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW OUR, IF THERE IS ONE, AND I TALKED TO JOSEPH ABOUT THIS, WE CAN PREEMPTIVELY SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, IF HE'S NOT AND WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND WAIVE THE REQUIREMENT FOR THIS INDIVIDUAL, WHETHER HE IS OR IS NOT A RESIDENT, THEN WE CAN GO AHEAD AND DO THAT. UM, AND THEN THE SUBCOMMITTEES CAN EITHER ADD THEM OR Y'ALL CAN ADD THEM ON. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE, WHEN WE REVIEW ALL THE SUBCOMMITTEES, UH, ROBERT HANLEY. JEREMY, LET ME ASK YOU QUESTION. THE THREE INDIVIDUALS THAT YOU HAVE THAT'S EXPRESSED INTERESTING IN SER INTEREST IN SERVING ON THE SUBCOMMITTEES, DID THEY SPECIFY WHICH PARTICULAR SUBCOMMITTEES THEY DID? THANK YOU. YEAH, IF YOU WANNA GO AHEAD. THERE'S ONE THAT, UM, YEAH, WE CAN JUST GO THROUGH THEM THREE REAL QUICK. UM, SO THIS IS CHRIS ALVARADO, UH, WITH EMBRY A UH, PREDOMINANT APARTMENT, YOU KNOW, UH, R TWO DEVELOPER AND CONTRACTOR FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. UH, THAT'S THE ONE THAT JUST DID NOT INDICATE A DISTRICT. SO I ASKED FOR CLARIFICATION, BUT I HAVEN'T RECEIVED THAT YET. IF Y'ALL WANTED TO TAKE ACTION TO APPROVE [00:35:01] ANY REQUIREMENT FOR WAIVING OF THE RESIDENCY, WE COULD DO THAT NOW. IF NOT, THEN I CAN. IF HE IS A NON-RESIDENT, THEN, THEN, UH, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO LATER ON ADD TO A SUBCOMMITTEE. THIS IS ROBERT HANLEY, THAT PER THE, WHAT HAPPENED IN THE SPRING AT THE CITY FOR THE, UH, ALLOWING NON-BOARD MEMBERS TO BE ON THE SUBCOMMITTEES? I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY, IF YOU'VE ONLY GOTTEN THREE APPLICATIONS, WE DON'T NEED TO BE PICKING THAT APART. SO I'LL MOVE REGARDLESS OF WHETHER HE'S A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO OR NOT. WE WAIVE IT IF HE'S NOT A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. 'CAUSE WE NEED PEOPLE ON THE SUBCOMMITTEES. SO, UH, THE, THE MOTION I SEE IS TO WAIVE THIS REQUIREMENT FOR RESIDENCE OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO FOR APPLICANT CHRIS ALVARADO, UH, RON CACTUS. I WOULD SECOND THAT MOTION. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO WAIVE THE REQUIREMENT FOR RESIDENCY. OKAY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT FOR YES, I DO. WE NEED TO CLARIFY. BRIAN SMITH, DO WE NEED TO CLARIFY THAT? IT'S JUST THESE THREE APPLICANTS? IT'S JUST THIS ONE. JUST THIS ONE. IT'S JUST THIS ONE. I, I WANT TO CLARIFY. JUST YES, THIS ONE. THIS ONE, IT WOULD BE JUST THIS ONE. THE OTHER TWO INDICATED THE, OR I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY. IT IS JUST, YES, THIS ONE WE'RE GONNA DO IT ONE AT A TIME. PERFECT, THANKS. OKAY, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES FOR MR. ALVARADO. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU CHAIR. UH, SO WE CAN JUST DO A QUICK SUMMARY. SO ONCE AGAIN RE UH, IS REQUESTED TO BE ON THE BUILDING OF FIRE CODE COMMITTEE. UH, CAN YOU SCROLL? I THINK THAT'S EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE HERE. I JUST DIDN'T, UM, ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING BACKGROUND, IF YOU'LL PULL BACK UP A LITTLE BIT. AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS, CAN THEY COMMIT TO BEING TO 80% OF THE MEETINGS AND THEY, THEY'RE SAYING YES. SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT 'CAUSE IT COUNT TOWARDS QUORUM. I DON'T WANNA START MISSING QUORUM BECAUSE OF THESE ADDITIONS. SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS. ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING DEGREE, UM, AND BACKGROUND IN REAL ESTATE. UH, SO THAT WOULD BE A CONSIDERATION WHEN WE LOOK AT THE BUILDING AND FIRE CODE COMMITTEE. UM, IF YOU'LL GO TO THE OTHER ONES. SO THIS IS SALVADOR GARCIA, UH, HE'S A DISTRICT SEVEN. HE WORKS IN NRP ONCE AGAIN. ANOTHER, UH, PREDOMINANT, UH, MULTIFAMILY R TWO DESIGNER, BUILDER CONTRACTOR, UH, REQUESTING TO BE ON THE BUILDING AND FIRE COMMITTEE. AND THAT'S THE ONLY ONE. UH, LET Y'ALL REVIEW HIS BACKGROUND. IS EVERYBODY READY TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT APPLICANT? OKAY. AND THEN THE THIRD APPLICANT IS CORY PALMER, DISTRICT 10. UM, LET'S SEE, HE'S JUST SAYING THAT HE'S REPRESENTING 10, SO NOT BACKING ANY INDUSTRY REQUESTING TO BE ON THE BUILDING AND FIRE COMMITTEE AS WELL AS THE MECHANICAL COMMITTEE. AND I THINK MAYBE THE SWIMMING POOL AS WELL. YES, AND THE SWIMMING POOL COMMITTEE. UH, YOU CAN SEE, UH, SOME BACKGROUND WITH THE, UH, MULTIFAMILY BACK. I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT MULTIFAMILY WAS SO POPULAR. THREE OF ALL THREE OF 'EM ARE RELATED MULTIFAMILY. WELL, HAVE YOU SEEN HOW MANY APARTMENTS ARE GOING UP RIGHT NOW? YEAH, YOU'VE SEEN THE GUY'S GONNA SUCK IN WHEN THIS COLLAPSES ? YEAH, MIKE AND MARK AREN'T HERE, BUT YEAH, THEY THEY'VE DONE THEIR DUE DILIGENCE BEFORE THEY YES, THEY DID BEFORE THEY MISSED THE MEETING. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, SO ONCE AGAIN, WE DON'T NEED TO TAKE ACTION ON ANY OF THE OTHER ONES SINCE THEY'VE INDICATED THAT THEY ARE RESIDENTS. SO ITEM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR WAS TO ONLY WAIVE THAT REQUIREMENT. SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, ALL THREE ARE AVAILABLE, UH, TO ANY OF THE SUBCOMMITTEES. SO LAST ACTION, UH, AGENDA ITEM FOR TODAY IS TO CREATE OUR SUBCOMMITTEES. UH, WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL MOVE OVER TO A SPREADSHEET. WHAT I DID WAS INITIALLY JUST KIND OF TOOK, UH, THE TRADES THAT KIND OF FALL UNDER EACH ONE OF THOSE. UH, WE CAN PROBABLY ZOOM IN ON A LITTLE BIT ON THAT. THANK YOU. AND WENT AHEAD AND ADDED THOSE. NOT FORCING Y'ALL TO BE ON IT, Y'ALL CAN ASK TO BE TOOLED OFF, BUT JUST TO KIND OF MOVE THE PROCESS ALONG, I AT LEAST WANTED Y'ALL TO, TO SHOW UP ON THE ONES THAT Y'ALL'S TRADE OR YOUR ORGANIZATIONS FALL UNDER. UM, BOTH WITH THE PRIMARY AND THE ALTERNATE THERE. UM, MIKE AND MARK HAD ALREADY LET ME KNOW WHICH SUBCOMMITTEES THEY WANTED TO BE PART OF, WHICH WAS ALL OF THEM. UH, THEY JUST LET ME KNOW WHICH ONE THEY WANTED TO BE THE PRIMARY AND ALTERNATE ON . YOU DON'T HAVE REAL JOBS, HUH? . I'LL BE HERE FOR EVERY ONE OF 'EM TOO AS WELL, UNLESS I'M ON VACATION. SO WHY IS MIKE? UM, SO I'VE, I'VE ADDED, UH, ADRIAN CONES AND MAX HOSFORD. THEY ARE THE, UH, BOMA REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE BUSINESS BUILDING, BUSINESS, OCCUPANCY BUILDINGS, AND, UH, OTHER COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. UH, SO THAT THE BUILDING AND FIRE CODE GROUP THAT MAXES IT OUT. UNLESS SOMEBODY, BUT IF [00:40:01] SOMEBODY IS WILLING TO JUMP ON AS AN ALTERNATE TO, TO LEWIS OR BRIAN, I'M SORRY, UH, LEWIS OR ROBERT OR JACK, UH, THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, I WOULD USE YOU AS A, AS AN ALTERNATE TO HELP ME, UH, MEET THAT QUORUM REQUIREMENT. 'CAUSE IF WE DID ADD, AS I MENTIONED THE APPLICANTS, THERE'S THREE OF THEM. IF WE ADDED ALL THREE OF THEM TO THIS, UH, THEN MY QUORUM WOULD BE SIX, UH, FOR THIS SUBCOMMITTEE. SO YOUR, YOUR QUORUM FOR THE BUILDING AND FIRE CODE IS WHAT AT THIS POINT? AT THIS POINT WITH NO, UH, ADDITIONAL, UH, NON-BOARD MEMBERS, IT WOULD BE FOUR. OKAY. BUT IF WE ADD THEM THE ADDITIONAL THREE, THEN IT MOVES IT TO SIX. OKAY. UH, BUT YEAH, REALLY WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS IF ANYBODY WANTS TO BE AN ALTERNATE TO, UH, ANY OF THE ONES THAT DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE AN ALTERNATE OR IF WE WANNA DISCUSS THE PRIMARY ALTERNATE, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, I JUST USE THE PRIMARY FOR THE BOARD. UM, BUT ONCE AGAIN, THE PRIMARIES AND ALTERNATES, IF THEY'RE INTERESTED, THEY HAVE VEST INTEREST IN A SPECIFIC PROJECT OR MEETING, UH, BASED ON WHAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT, THEY CAN DEFINITELY BOTH BE THERE, BE IT THE DIOCESE DISCUSSING IT. IT WOULD JUST BE ANY ACTION TAKEN IF BOTH THE PRIMARY AND ALTERNATE FOR THAT SUBCOMMITTEE ARE THERE. THE VOTE WOULD ONLY GO TO THE PRIMARY FOR THAT SUBCOMMITTEE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UH, ANY DISCUSSION ON THE THREE APPLICANTS? DO WE WANT TO CONSIDER ADDING THEM AT THIS POINT OR WAIT UNTIL THE AND ALLOW THE SUBCOMMITTEE TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS? UH, ONCE AGAIN, IT CAN BE DONE EITHER AT THE BOARD LEVEL OR THE SUBCOMMITTEE LEVEL. ROBERT HANLEY, UH, YOU KNOW, AT THIS POINT, UM, UNLESS THERE'S A DIFFERENT OPINION HERE AMONG THE CURRENT BOARD MEMBERS, I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY WE WOULDN'T ACCEPT THOSE THREE. SO IF, IF YOU NEED A MOTION ON THAT, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE THREE APPLICANTS FOR SUBCOMMITTEE. IT WOULDN'T BE AN OCEAN. I THINK WHAT WE'LL DO IS JUST GO AHEAD AND FILL IN ALL THE BOARD OR THE SUBCOMMITTEES AND WE CAN DO ONE MOTION TO ACCEPT IT AS PRESENTED. UM, UNLESS I'M WRONG ON THAT ONE, JOSEPH, ON THAT ACTION. YEAH. TRY TO LIMIT HOW MUCH, YEAH, I THINK IT'D BE GOOD TO GO AHEAD AND LET 'EM NOW KNOW NOW INSTEAD OF HAVING TO WAIT TILL A SUBCOMMITTEE GETS TOGETHER AND THEN THEY MISS THE FIRST MEETING OR WHATEVER, I EXACTLY GET 'EM ON THERE. I MEAN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA HURT ANYTHING. JEREMY, THIS ROBERT, BESIDES THAT, THAT PARTICULAR COMMITTEE, THE BUILDING AND FIRE CODES IS ONE THAT HAS THE MOST AMOUNT OF SUBCOMMITTEE MEETINGS? IT DOES CORRECT. YEAH. OKAY. UM, AHEAD AND ADD THE ONLY BRIAN SMITH, THE ONLY ISSUE THOUGH IS WE GO FROM FOUR QUORUM TO SIX QUORUM IS WHAT HE WAS SAYING. CORRECT? YEAH. SO YOU GOT THREE PEOPLE YOU'RE ADDING THAT WE HAVE NO HISTORY ON AS FAR AS ATTENDANCE OR SUCH. SO, UM, IT, IT COULD CAUSE AN ISSUE IS WHAT THE REASON WHY I HESITATED. YEAH. I MEAN, BUT THAT WAS ONE OF THE REQUESTS I I PUT ON THE APPLICATION WAS CAN YOU, YOU KNOW, MAKE AT LEAST 80 OF THE MEETINGS 80% OF THE MEETINGS, SO EIGHT OF THE 10. UM, AND THEY AGREED TO THAT. UM, AND WE CAN, IF IT'S AN AGENDA ITEM ON EACH ONE OF THE SUBCOMMITTEES TO AMEND WHO'S ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE, I KIND OF DID THAT WITH MY OKAY. YOU KNOW, WE CAN, WE CAN DROP THEM AS LONG AS I HAVE QUORUM AT THAT MOMENT. SO EVEN IF IT'S LIKE, HEY, CAN YOU COME IN FOR THE FIRST FIVE MINUTES TO, TO CHANGE MY NUMBER SO I CAN DROP IT? WE DON'T WANNA GO THROUGH THAT HASSLE. UH, IT'S NOT THE IDEAL. BUT YEAH, IF WE DO KIND OF FIND OURSELVES STUCK WITH SOMEBODY THAT'S NOT THERE. UH, BUT THE GOOD THING WITH THIS IS WE'RE ADDING THREE, BUT I'M ONLY NEEDING TWO MORE FOR QUORUM. SO MY PERCENTAGES ARE A LITTLE BIT BETTER FOR MEETING QUORUM. IF IT HAD BEEN TWO AND I NOW NEED SIX, IT'S KINDA LIKE, OKAY. YOU KNOW, NOT IDEAL. MOVING ON. UM, LET'S SEE HERE. OKAY, SO I THINK WE'RE GOOD ON BUILDING AND FIRE CODE. SO WE'RE MOVING TO THE PLUMBING CODE. UM, GREG, YOU KNOW, HE'S OUR MECHANICAL AND PLUMBING ENGINEER. UH, WASN'T ABLE TO MAKE IT TODAY, BUT HE DID AGREE TO BE ON, ON THAT. IF WE COULD HAVE SOMEBODY BE HIS ALTERNATE, THAT'D BE NICE. UM, AND THEN, UH, I ADDED MIKE AND MARK BOTH AGREED TO BE ON IT AND I PUT SPENCER DOWN AS THE PRIMARY. GEORGE, YOU'RE HERE IF YOU WANT TO BE THE PRIMARY ON IT, WE CAN SWAP THOSE. UM, OUR, UM, SPENCER, IT WAS HIS TURN, BUT OKAY. . THAT WAS PRETTY SMOOTH. DODGE AND WEAK. GEORGE. WELL YOU'RE HERE SO YOU GET TO VOTE. SO YOU, YOU CAN SAY I WANT IT OR I WANT HIM TO TAKE IT AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S YOUR CALL. SO YOU WANT US TO SWAP YOU AS THE PRIMER. OKAY. ALRIGHT. IF YOU CAN SWAP SPENCER AND, AND GEORGE. YEAH. BESIDES THAT THE COMMITTEE CAN ALWAYS MAKE A CHANGE BACK GEORGE THE OTHER WAY. . SO, UH, ONCE AGAIN, THE MINIMUM IS I NEED TO HAVE UH, FOUR MINIMUM. I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE FIVE. UH, THE MAIN REASON BEING QUORUM FOR FOUR IS THREE QUORUM FOR FIVE IS IS THREE. UH, I THINK IT WAS MECHANICAL OR ELECTRICAL. I CAN'T REMEMBER THE APPLICANT THAT HAD, UM, ONE APPLICANT I THINK SAID ELECTRICAL, RIGHT? I BELIEVE IT WAS, OH, WAS IT MECHANICAL? I THINK, YEAH, I THINK IT WAS COREY. THE LAST ONE WE LOOKED AT OR NO, COREY'S THE ONE WE HAD. YEAH, RIGHT THERE. SO MECHANICAL. OKAY. [00:45:01] SO, UM, IF WE CAN GO BACK TO, SO YEAH, SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PLUMBING RIGHT NOW. OKAY. SO, WE'LL I'LL JUST, I DON'T WANNA TO REMEMBER THAT ONE. THE PLUMBING. THAT ONE OF THEM. ONE PLUMBING? NO, I THINK, UH, DID THEY ON THE APPLICANTS, I GUESS LET'S LOOK AT THE OTHER ONE REAL QUICK. WAS BUILDING. BUILDING. WHO IS IT OR WAS BUILDING SWIMMING? YEAH, POOL. COULD HAVE BEEN. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UM, I THINK THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL ONES THAT OTHER THAN, SO AS THIS POINT STILL NEED A, A FOURTH FOR THIS ONE AND IDEALLY A FIFTH. I, I'LL JUST ADD THAT. UM, THE, THE CHAIR CAN, UH, VOLUNT VOLUNT TELL SOMEONE IF NEED BE. I, I DID WANNA HAVE TO BE THREATENING. I WAS WAITING. EVERYBODY'S REALLY THINKING ABOUT THIS. WE'RE VERY HEAVILY, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANT ME TO POINT ANY FINGERS AROUND HERE. DO YOU TALK ABOUT PEOPLE? I'LL DO IT. SUPPORT NOT ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE. J JEREMY SCOTT VOLUNTEERED. SCOTT. OKAY. OH, SO I'LL PUT JOE DOWN AND SCOTT DOWN. UM, OH, YOU DID IT LAST TIME. THAT'S WHAT I'M SORRY. I APOLOGIZE. SO WE GOT SCOTT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. WHICH, WHICH WE COULD DO WE NEED ONE MORE. I MEAN WE COULD ALWAYS POINT I FROM FOUR IS MINIMUM FIVE. FOUR IS MINIMUM FIVE JUST GIVES ME A CHANCE TO, YOU KNOW, UH, BUT I HAVE, UH, YES. YEAH. SCOTT BERG CAN YOU GOT, UM, HVC CONTRACT? IT'S WHAT WE'LL GO AHEAD AND DO IS WE'LL PUT JEFF BYER AS YOUR ALTERNATE ON IT. I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, IF HE DOESN'T SHOW UP, IT DOESN'T HURT, BUT IT'S JUST MORE OF THOSE LIKE IF I NEED SOMEBODY TO SHOW UP THAT DAY AND YOU KNOW, IT GIVES ME MORE PEOPLE TO TRY TO LAST. SO LAST MINUTE, UH, THIS WILL, THIS WILL TEACH HIM NOT TO SHOW UP TO THESE MEETINGS. THAT'S IT. , UH, JEFF BYER. B-E-Y-E-R-B UH, YER. YEP. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO THAT GIVES US A MINIMUM ON THAT ONE. OKAY. UH, SO THE NEXT ONE WOULD BE THE MECHANICAL SCRATCH ALREADY ON THERE. YEAH. YEAH. SO SCOTT, I'LL LEAVE THAT UP TO YOU. YOU'RE THE ONE PRESENT IF YOU WANNA BE THE PRIMARY OR, OR, UH, PUT HIM ON THE PLUMBING. YEAH, YOU'VE BEEN A LITTLE BIT MORE STABLE FOR ME, SO I APPRECIATE THAT. MM-HMM, . UH, SO WE'LL, WE'LL SWAP SCOTT AND JEFF ON THIS ONE. UM, THERE YOU GO. SO WE HAVE, YOU DID HAVE ONE OF THE APPLICANTS WAS MECHANICAL. YEAH, ONE OF THE APPLICANTS. I'LL STILL NEED ONE MORE BOARD MEMBER. BUT YEAH, THIS, UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ADD THE, IF EVERYBODY'S GOOD WITH THAT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ADD THE APPLICANT THAT WAS, UH, GEORGE SLE. I'LL GO AHEAD AND HELP SCOTT ON THAT. MECHANICAL. OKAY, THANK YOU. YEAH. YEAH, GEORGE. UH, . YEAH. OH, THAT A PRIMARY? NO, IT WAS, UH, YEAH, THAT WAS A PRIMARY. YEAH. AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND PUT UM, SPENCER AS YOUR ALTERNATE ON THAT ONE JUST TO, AS I SAID, IF IF I NEVER USE IT, IT'S THERE. IT DOESN'T HURT. BUT IF I DO USE IT IN THAT TIME. SO THEN, UH, QUICK QUESTION THEN. UH, IF THE PRIMARY ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE DOESN'T SHOW, DOES THIS ALTERNATE THEN HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE? NO. THAT'S WHERE I NEED TO HAVE THEM OFFICIALLY ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE'S ITS OWN KIND OF ENTITY. SO THAT'S WHERE I'M SAYING IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE TO BE THAT PERSON'S ALTERNATE OR PRIMARY OF THE SAME POSITION ON THE FULL BOARD. YOU KNOW, ANYBODY COULD BE SOMEBODY ELSE'S ALTERNATE OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE. THAT'D HAVE TO BE THE SAME DISCIPLINE. WHAT I WAS ASKING ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE, IF THE PRIMARY ISN'T, YOU GOTTA HOLD IT GEORGIA. YEAH. HOLD IT. YEAH. THEY'VE BEEN KIND OF, UH, IF THE PRIMARY ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE DOESN'T ATTEND, DOES THE ALTERNATE REPLACE HIM? YES. AND VOTES CORRECT? YES. OKAY. EXACTLY. SO IT JUST GIVES ME MORE OPTION TO MAKE SURE I MAINTAIN A QUORUM. BRIAN SMITH, JUST, JUST TO CLARIFY, JUST THAT DAY, SO OH, OF COURSE. YES. YEAH. JUST THAT DAY OR EVEN THAT 30 MINUTES AT THE END OF A MEETING, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY STEPS AWAY, IT GOES TO THEM AS THE VOTE. YEAH. SO IF THE PRIMARY WAS BACK THE NEXT DAY OR THE NEXT MEETING WOULD THEN WOULD TAKE OVER. YEP. YES. WILLIAM? UH, I'D LIKE TO ADD MYSELF TO THE MECHANICAL CODE SUBCOMMITTEE. THANK YOU. I I'VE BEEN ON IT THE PAST FEW CYCLES. WELL, THAT COMMITTEE JUST WENT DOWNHILL WITH ALL THE, UH, ADDED FIRE, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL WITH THE MECHANICAL AND COMBUSTIBLES BEING USED THAT KEEP IT, IT DOES MAKE SENSE TO HAVE A FIRE PRODUCTION ENGINEER BE PART OF THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU'S ALL ABOUT THE MM-HMM. . THAT'S RIGHT. . UM, [00:50:01] OKAY. UM, SO THAT GETS US THROUGH MECHANICAL. SO THE NEXT ONE WOULD BE OUR ELECTRICAL. SO I'VE ADDED, UH, MARK AND MIKE TO THAT ONE. RON AND JOHN AS THE, AS THE ALTERNATE. UH, GARY AND EDWARD. EDWARD, I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO YOU. YOU'RE THE ONE PRESENT. IF YOU WANT TO SWAP THEM, GO AHEAD AND SWAP IT OR SWAP. OKAY. SO WE'LL SWAP EDWARD AND GARY. UH, LON IS MY SOLE. UM, I GUESS THIS IS OUR FIRST MEETING SINCE MARK HAS LET ME KNOW THAT HE'S, UH, RETIRING AND MOVING ON. SO, UH, NOT, I GUESS I HAVEN'T MEANT, MEANT THAT TO Y'ALL, BUT MARK HAS, UH, HAS LEFT REQUESTED TO LEAVE THE BOARD. HE, HE RETIRED RIGHT BEFORE THIS PROCESS STARTED. I DON'T ASSUME IT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS, BUT MAYBE SO , YOU KNOW, YOU NEVER KNOW. TIMING IS EVERYTHING. . UM, YEAH, SO WE HAVE OUR FOUR. UM, WE ALSO HAVE, UH, I THINK CORY PALMER. NO, NOBODY WANTED TO THIS ONE, RIGHT? YEAH. UH, SO WE HAVE OUR FOUR FOR THIS ONE. UM, I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE THAT'S INTERESTED ON JOINING THE ELECTRICAL. OKAY. AND AS ALWAYS, WE'LL LEAVE IT AS AN AGENDA ITEM, AT LEAST FOR THE FIRST MEETING TO AMEND, UH, AND MODIFY AS NEEDED. BUT THIS AT LEAST GIVES ME WHAT I NEED TO, UH, TO START IT. ALRIGHT. FINALLY IS THE, UM, SWIMMING POOL CODE. WE ANTICIPATE THIS BEING ONE MEETING AT THE VERY END UNTIL THE END OF THIS PROCESS. UM, WHAT I DID, YOU KNOW, IT'S ELECTRICAL, IT'S PLUMBING. UH, SO I WENT AHEAD AND JUST ADDED Y'ALLS ON THERE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO STAY. EXACTLY. SO DON'T, DON'T FEEL IF Y'ALL WANT TO ASK TO BE TAKEN OFF, I I'M NOT GONNA BE UPSET. UH, BUT I JUST KIND OF, LIKE I SAID, PRE PRE-POPULATED IT A LITTLE BIT. UM, I THINK JUST ONE MEETING. YEAH, IT'S JUST ONE MEETING ON THIS ONE. IT'S ANTICIPATED. I, WE HAVEN'T DONE AN INTERNAL INTERNAL REVIEW OF IT OFFICIALLY YET, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY BEEN ADOPTED BECAUSE OF THE STATE REQUIREMENT MORE THAN ANYTHING. UH, I DON'T THINK WE'RE REALLY ANTICIPATING ACHIEVING OUR PROCESS. WE, THE CHANGES WHEN WE DID LAST CYCLE IS WHEN WE DID MOST OF IT. SO THERE SHOULDN'T BE MUCH ON THIS ONE. I EXACTLY. YEAH. THE WATER. IT IS. UM, ANY, ANY THOUGHTS, ANY CONCERNS? LIKE I SAID, I KNOW I PRE-POPULATED THIS ONE, SO IF ANYBODY WANTS TO JEREMY? YEAH, GO AHEAD. YOU GO AHEAD AND SWAP ME AND GARY AS WELL. OKAY, GO AHEAD AND RON, YOU'RE HERE SO IF YOU WANNA SWAP YOU AND JOHN . I, I, I'M, I'M FINE. I, OKAY. I WAS ON THE NC CO MAKING PANEL FIRST 2005, SO OKAY. DEAR TO MY HEART. ALRIGHT, GOOD, GOOD. WELL WE, WE'LL DEFINITELY TAKE IT. YOU KNOW, I THINK THE BIG HEAVY LIFTS LAST YEAR WAS THE FENCING BARRIER FOR CONSTRUCTION AND TRY AND WE'RE TRYING TO INTERPRET THAT THAN ANYTHING WITH THE BARRIER AND THE WINDOWS. YES. YEAH. THE WIND WELL. YEAH, WELL THAT ONE'S ALWAYS, YEAH. BUT NO, THIS WAS THE CONSTRUCTION BARRIER REQUIREMENTS. YEAH. AND DEALING WITH THOSE. AND THEN I THINK THIS IS THE ONE THAT COREY, SO, UH, IS EVERYBODY GOOD WITH ADDING CORY PALMER, THE, UH, NON-BOARD MEMBER TO THIS ONE AS WELL? THAT HE APPLICATED. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UH, EXCUSE ME, JEREMY, UH, GEORGE SLEEPY. MAY AS WELL SWITCH ME AND SPENCER. 'CAUSE I DON'T THINK SPENCER'S GONNA HAVE A LOT OF TIME. HE PROBABLY WON'T DO ON THIS ONE. OKAY. APPRECIATE THAT. ALRIGHT, SO THAT GIVES ME AT LEAST THE MINIMUM. GO AHEAD WILLIAM. UH, YES, GOING BACK TO BUILDING AND FIRE CODE, UH, SUBCOMMITTEE, UH, BOTH KAREN AND I'D LIKE TO SWITCH POSITIONS. OKAY. SHE'D LIKE BE, SHE'LL BE PRIMARY AND I'LL BE SECONDARY. SOUNDS GOOD. SO YEAH, RIGHT THERE. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT IS OUR FIVE SUBCOMMITTEES. UH, ANY LAST CHANGES AT THIS POINT? LET'S JUST DOUBLE CHECK. I WANNA MAKE SURE I HAVE EVERYTHING I NEED TO BE ABLE TO HOLD A FIRST MEETING ACTION. UH, IF WE'LL SCROLL DOWN. I JUST WANNA RECONFIRM, SO WE GOT FOUR, UH, WE GOT FIVE I THINK ON THE MECHANICAL, SO WE'RE GOOD THERE. AND ELECTRICAL HAS FOUR AND THEN WE HAVE FIVE FOR THE, OKAY, PERFECT. ALRIGHT, SO I CAN, I CAN OFFICIALLY TAP ONE MEETING. QUICK QUESTION, JOE, ON THE, ON OUR COMMITTEE OR THE BUILDING COMMITTEE, WOULD YOU PREFER TO BE PRIMARY AND I I COULD BE THE SECONDARY. I'M GOOD. ALRIGHT. YEAH. SUPPORT BOTH GUYS. I NEED YOU FOR TWO MEETINGS. YEAH. , YOU'RE GONNA BE AT ALL OF 'EM ANYWAYS. YEAH, I KNOW . THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. SO, YEAH, AND I MEAN, AND THE GOOD POINT OF THIS IS REALLY THIS CHANGE ONLY AFFECTS WHEN BOTH OF Y'ALL ARE THERE TO VOTE ON WHO'S OFFICIALLY GOING TO MAKE THAT VOTE. IF YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE THE ALTERNATE AND YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE THAT SHOWS UP TO ALL THE MEETINGS, THE PRIMARY NEVER SHOWS UP. IT DOES NOT AFFECT THE OUTCOME OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE AT ALL. OKAY. ALRIGHT. VERY GOOD. JEREMY, THIS IS ROBERT HANLEY. UH, JUST TO BE CLEAR, THIS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR, UH, IT SAYS ACTION AND SO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THIS. BUT MY QUESTION IS, SINCE THIS IS SORT [00:55:01] OF IN FLUX WITH THE ADDITION OF PEOPLE AND MOVING THE PRIMARY AND THE ALTERNATES, UH, WHY DO WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION? BECAUSE IT'S NOT SET IN STONE ACTION. JOSEPH, YOU CAN CORRECT ME. MAKES IT SOUND LIKE IT'S SET IN STONE AND IT'S GONNA BE VERY FLEXIBLE. THE BOARD IS ONE WHO APPROVES IT. THE ACTION IS BASICALLY TO ESTABLISH THE BOARD AND THEN YOU HAVE THE AVAILABILITY OR THE SUBCOMMITTEES HAVE THE AVAILABILITY TO KIND OF CHANGE, BUT IT'S JUST TO GET IT GOING. ALRIGHT. YEAH. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. YEAH, I NEED THE ACTION TO HAVE THE FIRST MEETINGS NEXT WEEK AND THEN I CAN FLEX IT AROUND AS NEEDED. BRIAN, AND THIS IS A ITEM NUMBER FIVE, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION. YEAH. FIVE. BRIAN SMITH. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, THE SUBCOMMITTEES AS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN. WE'RE ON ERMAN. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE SUBCOMMITTEES AS PRESENTED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED. MOTION PASSES. OKAY, SO NOW THAT WE HAVE OUR SUBCOMMITTEES, UH, THAT, THAT IS THE LAST OFFICIAL AGENDA ITEM, BUT [ Director's Report  ] UM, JUST BECAUSE WE ARE STARTING NEXT WEEK AND WE HAVE MANY OF Y'ALL HERE, UH, WE WANT TO JUST DISCUSS AND MAKE SURE WE DON'T NEED TO MAKE ANY CHANGES. 'CAUSE I NEED TO POST THE PLUMBING ONE. UM, PROBABLY ON SATURDAY. I WON'T LIE. I REALLY DON'T WANNA PULL UP CRIME CRIME GOV AND START MESSING WITH THAT THIS AFTERNOON. UM, SO IF WE'LL GO BACK TO THE, UM, WE'LL START WITH THE PLUMBING CODE. YEAH, IF YOU'LL GO TO THE EXCEL SPREADSHEET. I JUST, SO WE ARE CURRENTLY SCHEDULED FOR, I'M NOT SURE IF ANYBODY HAS THAT. CAN WE PULL THAT UP AS WELL? YOU NEED PLUMBING STARTS ON SEPTEMBER 10TH. 10TH AT 9:00 AM WOULD BE THE INITIAL START. UH, GEORGE, UH, YOU'RE KIND OF OUR LEAD. I THINK MIKE AND MARK WILL MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE HERE FOR ONE OF THOSE, SO I FEEL PRETTY COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. UM, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE ON THE PLUMBING CODE, WHO ARE THE OTHER TWO? 18TH AND 24TH. YEP. SO GEORGE, YOU GOOD WITH TUESDAY AT 9:00 AM OKAY. ALRIGHT. I'M SURE GREG, UM, I I WILL REACH OUT WITH HIM. HE'S AVAILABLE. I'LL, I'LL JUST DOUBLE CHECK BUT, AND THEN SCOTT, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO MAKE TUESDAY AT 10 O'CLOCK OR NINE O'CLOCK? I'M SORRY. YEAH. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO WE'LL KEEP THAT AS OUR INITIAL KICKOFF DATE AND THEN WE WILL AMEND, UH, AT EACH OF THOSE MEETINGS AFTERWARDS AND THEN ON THE BUILDING AND FIRE CODE. SO THAT ONE WILL BE, IS THAT THURSDAY OR FRIDAY OF NEXT WEEK? IT'S NEXT FRIDAY THE 13TH, NEXT FRIDAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO I HAVE SEVEN MEMBERS, UM, NEXT FRIDAY AT NINE O'CLOCK. MM-HMM, . SO EVERYBODY ENOUGH HERE TO AT LEAST GIMME A QUORUM? YES, SIR. KAREN OR WILLIAM NEXT FRIDAY. GOOD. NEXT FRIDAY'S GOOD. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GO THROUGH WHAT'S FALLS ON WHAT DAY OF THE WEEKEND. GOTCHA. OKAY. YEAH, NO, I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. I THEY'RE NOT ALL THURSDAYS OR FRIDAY? NO. OH, THEY'RE NOT EITHER THURSDAY OR FRIDAY FOR THE BUILDING. YEAH. SO THE NEXT ONE WILL BE FRIDAY, THE FOLLOWING WILL BE A THURSDAY. YEAH, THE 19TH. I DON'T RECALL ANYBODY FALLING ON A WEDNESDAY IF THEY DID, I APOLOGIZE AGAIN, THE GOAL IS 19TH IS THE ONLY THURSDAY AT ALL. THE REST ARE ON FRIDAYS. GOTCHA. OKAY. SO, UH, MOSTLY JUST LOOKING AT NEXT WEEK ONLY RIGHT NOW, JUST TO MAKE SURE WE CAN GO AHEAD. NO, IT CHANGED AGAIN BE BETWEEN THE 11TH AND 17TH IS ONLY SIX DAYS, SO THAT CHANGES. AND THEN THE 31ST AS WELL. YEAH, I FELT LIKE THAT ONE KIND OF, I THINK THERE'S A BOARD MEETING IN THE, IN HERE. I THINK IT'S THE, UH, BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD EVERY OTHER WEEK ON THURSDAYS 13TH. SAY THAT AGAIN BRIAN. OKAY, SO I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE QUORUM FOR NEXT FRIDAY ON 13TH. SO WE'LL GET THOSE STARTED. OKAY. YOU GO TO EIGHT DAYS AND IT WOULD BE SEVEN DAYS, BUT IT'S SIX DAYS, SO THEY DO SWAP A LITTLE BIT THURSDAY OR FRIDAYS, WHICH ALL RIGHT. UM, I'VE GOTTA PULL IT UP, BUT IT DOES SWAP BETWEEN THURSDAYS. SO I WILL MOVE US FORWARD WITH THE FIRST TWO SUBCOMMITTEES AS, AS POSTED HERE FOR 9:00 AM STARTING NEXT WEEK. GET THAT PROCESS STARTED. UM, YOU KNOW, YOU NOW KNOW WHICH SUBCOMMITTEES YOU'RE ON. LOOK AT THOSE DATES, SHOOT ME AN EMAIL. UM, YOU KNOW, RON, I KNOW YOU'VE ALREADY KIND OF MENTIONED ON THE SECOND, UM, AND WE'LL, WE'LL TRY TO MOVE THINGS AROUND. UH, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL PUSH A WHOLE WEEK. WE MAY HAVE TO SEE IF JOHN'S AVAILABLE AS A, AN INITIAL, BUT IT'S ALSO THE INITIAL ONE. I'M SURE IF ANY, ANY ITEMS THAT COME UP THAT ARE LIKE, HEY, THAT'S SIGNIFICANT. WE USUALLY TABLE THOSE, GET SOME REVIEW, GET SOME MORE INFORMATION SO WE CAN BRING YOU UP TO SPEED ON THE NEXT ONE. AND IT WILL ALSO BE RECORDED. SO IF ANYBODY NEEDED TO GO BACK AND KIND OF WATCH YOU THERE OR, UH, SEE A SPECIFIC CONVERSATION, WE CAN WORK WITH THAT AS WELL. YEAH, MY, MY MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS THE, THE LAST TWO CODE CYCLES, UH, FOR THE NEC IS, I'VE CHAIRED BOTH OF THOSE AND I SUSPECT THAT IT COULD GO THAT WAY AGAIN UNLESS I'M NOT AT THE FIRST MEETING. . OH NO, THEY'LL VOTE YOU TO BE THE CHAIR WHEN YOU'RE NOT THERE. , IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT? OR IS THAT NOT WHAT YOU WANT? I'M PERFECTLY FINE CHAIRING IT AGAIN. OKAY. THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. YEAH, NO, WE'LL I ASSUME THEY'LL, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GOT A STRONG LEADER, YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU KEEP WITH THAT LEADER. WHY, WHY CHANGE IT AT ALL? [01:00:02] HEY, I USE DEODORANT TODAY. OKAY. LET'S NOT TALK ABOUT STRONG . RON, ARE YOU OUT ALL THAT WEEK OR LEAVING OR COMING BACK? YEAH, I, UH, I LEAVE LATE FRIDAY THE WEEK PRIOR. UH, THE UH, NIKA ANNUAL CONFERENCES THAT WEEK. I MEAN, I WON'T LIE, WE MAY WRAP UP PLUMBING IN TWO AND WE MAY MOVE THAT ONE UP A WEEK. YOU KNOW, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT. WE WILL LIKELY WRAP UP PLUMBING IN ONE. OH, BOTH PLUMBING AND FUEL GAS. OKAY. YEAH. SO IF THAT'S THE CASE THEN WE MIGHT, HEY, LET'S MOVE THIS ONE UP. UM, YOU KNOW, LOOK. YEAH, AND I KNOW IT'S, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THIS IS GONNA BE CONTINGENT ON VALERIE'S AVAILABILITY AS WELL. YEAH, I MEAN THE GOAL IS, YEAH, I DON'T WANNA PUSH IT A WEEK 'CAUSE OF HER AVAILABILITY. I AM ALL FOR MOVING THE ELECTRICAL UP IF THE, THE BOARD MEMBERS CAN WORK WITH THAT. UH, JUST BECAUSE YEAH, WITH HER BEING GONE, THAT'S, THAT'S A BIG EXPERTISE ON OUR END THAT THAT GOES WITH IT. SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE HER AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. JEREMY, THIS IS ROBERT LEY. UH, WHEN WILL YOU BE SENDING OUT THIS LIST OF WHO'S ON THE COMMITTEES AND THE MEETING DATES TO US? 'CAUSE I DIDN'T WRITE IT ALL DOWN, BUT I GOT CLIPS. I CAN GET IT OUT. I CAN GET IT OUT, UH, THIS WEEKEND. TAKE A PICTURE. I TOOK A PICTURE OF THE, UH, , BUT I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S, WE'RE WE'RE WRAPPING UP PRETTY EARLY. UM, I'LL, I'LL HEAD UPSTAIRS AND SEND THIS OUT. I'LL, I'LL SEND OUT THIS, THIS SCHEDULE AS WELL AS, AND WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL ALSO ADD THE DAY OF THE WEEK ON THIS ONE TO HELP OUT WITH THAT AS WELL. 'CAUSE I KNOW THAT'S, UH, SOMETIMES EASIER TO LOOK AT A DATE. I, I KNOW SOME OF MY SCHEDULES ARE BUILT AROUND WEDNESDAYS ARE BETTER THAN THURSDAYS EVERY WEEK NO MATTER WHAT. SO I'LL ADD THE DAY OF THE WEEK. SO, AND WE'LL LOOK AT OUR NOVEMBER OUR, OUR OPPORTUNITY TO RELOCATE THE FIRST WEEK OF ELECTRICAL. UH, GO AHEAD AND GET THAT ON THE BOOKS AND SEE IF WE CAN AMEND THAT. BUT I'LL SEND THAT OUT TO Y'ALL TODAY. ALRIGHT. UM, THAT IS ALL THE AGENDA ITEMS. ALL THE ACTION ITEMS THAT WE HAVE, UH, WE'VE KIND OF TALKED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GOOD FOR NEXT WEEK. I HAVE EVERYBODY'S CODE BOOKS. UM, THEY'RE IN NICE BAGS, BUT WE KINDA LEARNED AS WE WERE PACKING THEM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT THE MOST DOUBLE STITCHED, SO I WOULDN'T SWING 'EM AROUND AS MY KID WOULD LOVE TO DO, UH, IF HE WAS CARRYING AROUND A 20 POUND BAG FULL OF BOOKS. UH, SO BE GENTLE MOVING 'EM. UH, IF IF IT TEARS, I CAN GET ANOTHER ONE FOR YOU. WE CAN GET YOU A BOX, BUT, UH, BUT WE DO HAVE ALL THOSE, THERE'S A SIGN IN SHEET FOR THAT. UH, BUT THAT IS EVERYTHING ON MY END. SO CHAIR, UNLESS YOU HAVE ANYTHING ON YOUR END, WE CAN CALL IT A MEETING. OKAY. ADJOURN THE MEETING. TIME IS, TIME IS 2 0 6. REQUEST FOR ADJOURNMENT. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. EXCELLENT. MEETING IS ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. PERFECT. THANK CALL BOARD. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.