* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:04] GOOD MORNING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. THE TIME IS NOW 9 0 5. THE DATE IS 12 SEPTEMBER, 2024. UH, YEAH, I AM DWAYNE NELSON. I'M THE CHAIR FOR TODAY'S MEETING. OKAY. NO, THAT ONE DOESN'T. WE'LL JUST SHARE THAT. SORRY. SORRY ABOUT THAT INTERRUPTION. UH, IF WE, IF WE COULD, LET'S HAVE A, UH, LET'S SEE THE TIME I'M GOING THROUGH THE HABIT OF, OF GETTING THINGS CORRECTLY. LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE. DWAYNE NELSON. PRESENT. JOEL SOLIS. PRESENT. FRED ANDIS. PRESENT. DR. LINDA LOPEZ RODRIGUEZ. THOMAS FRANKS PRESENT. KAYLA MIRANDA. PRESENT. GEORGE GRIMES JR. PRESENT. COURTNEY ROSEN. PRESENT. PRESENT. ALSO PRESENT IN THE MEETING FROM THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ARE ERIC BURNS FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND FROM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. JENNY REMEZ, CODE ENFORCEMENT MANAGER, JUDY KRUM, BSB LIAISON. AND MYSELF, JENNIFER MARTINEZ, ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT TWO CHAIR. QUORUM IS PRESENT. THANK YOU. THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO PROVIDES TRANSLATION SERVICES. UH, IF WE COULD, LET'S LET YOU TRANSLATE THAT MESSAGE TO THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONE IN ANY DEVICE THAT MAY DISRUPT THIS PUBLIC HEARING. NO PERSON SHALL DELAY OR DISRUPT THE PROCEEDINGS OR DISOBEY THE ORDER OF THE CHAIR. IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON A CASE, YOU'LL BE ALLOWED THREE MINUTES. HOWEVER, AN OWNER OR OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE WILL HAVE UNLIMITED TIME. PLEASE KEEP ALL INFORMATION RELEVANT TO THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION AND THE CODE VIOLATION AS ADVISED PRIOR TO THE PUBLIC HEARING, THE CITY WILL PROVIDE TRANSLATION SERVICES FOR ANYONE NEEDING ASSISTANCE. IT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU HAVE MADE SUCH ARRANGEMENTS AS ADVISED IN YOUR NOTICE OF HEARING. OUR EXPECTATION IS THAT YOU'VE SUBMITTED THE REQUIRED DOCUMENTS PRIOR TO THIS PUBLIC HEARING. YOUR RESPONSIBILITY AS A PROPERTY OWNER OR LIEN HOLDER OF THE DILAPIDATED STRUCTURE IS TO DEMONSTRATE THE FOLLOWING. NUMBER ONE, PROVIDE THE REQUIRED DOCUMENTS. DISCUSS YOUR DETAILED SCOPE OF WORK WITH A COST FOR EACH ITEM OUTLINED IN ORDER TO BRING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE TO THE SATISFACTION OF A CODE OFFICER. NUMBER TWO, SUBMIT THE REQUIRED PROOF OF FINANCIAL ABILITY TO PAY FOR PROPOSED WORK AND DISCUSS FEASIBILITY OF REPAIR, DEPEND UPON MONIES AT HAND. AND NUMBER THREE, REQUEST THE AMOUNT OF TIME NEEDED TO COMPLETE THE WORK. ALL ABATEMENT ORDERED BY THE BOARD SHALL BE ENFORCED. ALL WORK PROPOSED MUST BE DONE WITHIN THE CODE REGULATIONS WITH REQUIRED PERMITS PRIOR TO COMMENCEMENT OF WORK. YOU MAY OBTAIN ALL PERMITS FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES LOCATED AT 1901 SOUTH ALAMO STREET, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 0 4. IF IN DOUBT AS TO THE PROCESS DURING THIS TIME, PLEASE CONTACT THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. ANY OWNER OR LIEN HOLDER DISSATISFIED WITH THE ORDER OF THIS BOARD MAY FILE AN APPEAL IN CIVIL DISTRICT COURT WITHIN 30 DAYS AFTER THE DATE THAT THE ORDER IS MAILED. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ORDERS, PLEASE CONTACT THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER OR DEVELOPMENT SERVICE STAFF MEMBER BY PHONE AT (210) 207-5422. PLEASE NOTE THAT IT'S UNLAWFUL FOR ANY PERSON PRESENT TO SOLICIT OR PEDAL SERVICES REGARDING ANY PROPERTY UNDER CONSIDERATION BY THIS BOARD DURING THE COURSE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, OR AS PER CITY CODE SECTION 16 DASH 2 36. THANK YOU. WE HAVE [ Approval of Minutes  ] RECEIVED THE MINUTES FROM, LET'S SEE, IT'S A JUNE REPORT, UH, NOT JUNE, THE, THE, UH, AUGUST REPORT. EXCUSE ME. UH, HOPEFULLY THE BOARD HAS HAD A CHANCE TO, TO REVIEW THAT JULY, BUT JU BACK IN JULY. YOU'RE CORRECT. UH, UH, MR. CHAIR, THIS IS FERNANDEZ. I WOULD LIKE. I WOULD, UH, THIS IS FRED. I'D LIKE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES, AS IS THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS DRAFTED. SECOND. AND I HAVE A SECOND FROM JOEL. UH, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES AS DRAFTED. SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. DID WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? NONE. UH, STAFF REPORT PLEASE? NONE, NONE THIS MORNING. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU, MA'AM. OKAY. WE'LL MOVE TO [ Briefing and Possible Action on the following items  ] THE INDIVIDUAL CASES. THE FIRST CASE IS GONNA BE 74 38 KINGSTON AND TRANSLATION SERVICES IS REQUESTED. [00:05:01] GOOD MORNING BOARD. GOOD MORNING FOR THE RECORD. MY NAME IS SIR JOE NIA, DANGEROUS PREMISES OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT. THE STRUCTURE BEING PRESENTED TODAY IS LOCATED AT 74 38 KINGSTON, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS, 7 8 2 1 8, WITH THE RECOMMENDATION FOR DEMOLITION IN ACCORDANCE WITH CITY CODE ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER SIX. THIS CASE IS A REHEARING FROM MARCH 14TH, 2024. THE BOARD ORDERED A 90 DAY REPAIR FOR THE MAIN STRUCTURE. UH, STRUCTURE SHALL BE SECURED WITH THE PRIVACY FENCE, ALL REQUIRED PERMITS PULLED FOR REPAIRS. SCOPE OF WORK PROVIDED WITHIN 30 DAYS AND REPORTS TO CODE OFFICER EVERY 30 DAYS. THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION IS NCB 12 2 27, LOT 11 LOCATED IN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO. THE OWNER ON RECORD IS ANDREAS CARILLO WITH THE MAILING ADDRESS OF 74 38 KINGSTON. ALL NOTICE OF HEARINGS WERE PROPERLY ISSUED AS REQUIRED. UH, THE FOLLOWING INDIVIDUAL IS PRESENT ON BEHALF OF THE CASE. ANDREAS CARILLO CONTACT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED WITH THE OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTY. ANDRES CARILLO CONTACT ESTABLISHED WAS ESTABLISHED ON MARCH 14TH, 2024 AT TIME OF BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD HEARING THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION CONFIRMED ON AUGUST 16TH, 2023. THE PROPERTY IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR HISTORIC DESIGNATION. THE FOLLOWING IS A TIMELINE OF EVENTS REGARDING THE NOTIFICATION PROCESS. THE FIRST INSPECTION REGARDING 74 38 KINGSTON WAS CONDUCTED ON APRIL 17TH, 2023. THE ORIGINAL NOTICE WAS MAILED ON APRIL 18TH, 2023, AND THE CERTIFIED RECEIPT WAS RETURNED TO SENDER UNDELIVERABLE ON MAY 3RD, 2023 ON MARCH 14TH, 2024. BSB ORDERED A 90 DAY REPAIR FOR THE MAIN STRUCTURE. STRUCTURE SHALL BE SECURED WITH THE PRIVACY FENCE. ALL REQUIRED PERMITS POOLED FOR REPAIRS. SCOPE OF WORK PROVIDED WITHIN 30 DAYS AND REPORT TO CODE OFFICER EVERY 30 DAYS ON AUGUST 27TH, 2024. THE NOTICE FOR THE BSB HEARING WAS MAILED TO OWNER, AND THE CERTIFIED RECEIPT HAS NOT BEEN RETURNED AS OF SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2024. OKAY. ON AUGUST 28TH, 2024, THE NOTICE OF THE, FOR THE BSB HEARING WAS POSTED AT 74 38 KINGSTON. NO SCOPE OF WORK OR ENGINEER'S REPORT HAS BEEN PROVIDED AS OF SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2024. THERE ARE NO ACTIVE PERMITS ON FILE FOR 74 38 KINGSTON. AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO ADVISE THE BOARD THAT ON APRIL 29TH, 2024, THE OWNER APPLIED FOR MINOR BUILDING REPAIR PERMITS. UH, OWNER WAS NOT ABLE TO PULL PERMITS DUE TO HIS CONTRACTOR LICENSE EXPIRING. AND THE SCHOOL IS LOCATED WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET OF KRUGER MIDDLE SCHOOL. THE PHOTOS THAT ARE BEING PROVIDED FOR TODAY'S PRESENTATION WERE TAKEN ON FEBRUARY 13TH, 2024, MARCH 9TH, 2024, AUGUST 14TH, 2024, AND SEPTEMBER 5TH, 2024. THE PHOTO PRESENTATION CONSISTS OF A TWO STORY STRUCTURE, A NEGLECTED AND DAMAGED CONDITION. AT THIS TIME, WE WILL REVIEW THE PHOTOS. THE FIRST PHOTO IS OF THE FRONT ELEVATION, SHOWING A TWO STORY RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE BUILT IN 1977 WITH SLAB ON GRADE FOUNDATION, WOOD PANEL SIDING, AND FLAT SHINGLE ROOF. AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT, UH, THE PROXIMITY FROM THE STRUCTURE TO THE KRUGER MIDDLE SCHOOL, WHICH YOU CAN SEE TO THE LEFT OF THE PHOTO. UH, THIS IS A HEAVILY TRAFFICKED STREET AND SIDEWALK. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT TO POINT OUT TO THE BOARD THAT THIS PARTICULAR PHOTO WAS SHOWN IN THE ORIGINAL HEARING ON MARCH 14TH, 2024. I WANTED TO INCLUDE IT TO SHOW THE COMPARISON TO HOW THIS STRUCTURE LOOKS NOW, WHICH YOU WILL SEE IN THE NEXT PHOTO. HERE YOU CAN SEE THE CURRENT APPEARANCE OF THE STRUCTURE, WHICH SHOWS THE EXTENSION FROM THE BOTTOM FLOOR. WINDOWS HAVE BEEN REMOVED ALONG WITH THE SECOND FLOOR EXTENSION FROM THE FRONT DOOR, UH, ABOVE THE FRONT DOOR. UH, THE STRUCTURAL WALLS REMAIN DAMAGED ALONG THE ROOF, UH, ALONG WITH THE ROOF HANGING OVERHANG ON ALL FOUR SIDES OF THE STRUCTURE. THE NEXT PHOTO IS OF THE RIGHT ELEVATION. THE ENTIRE WALL HAS BEEN COVERED WITH WRAP, BUT THE STRUCTURE UNDERNEATH REMAINS IN POOR CONDITION. AND THE ROOF OVERHANG IS VISIBLY DAMAGED AND DECAYING. THE FOLLOWING PHOTO IS OF THE REAR ELEVATION. HERE YOU CAN SEE THE SIDING IS DAMAGED AT THE BASE OF THE FOUNDATION, AND ALL THE SECOND FLOOR WINDOWS ARE BROKEN, EXPOSING THE INTERIOR TO THE ELEMENTS. [00:10:03] THE NEXT PHOTO IS A CLOSER LOOK AT THE BOTTOM RIGHT SIDE OF THE REAR WALL, WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE WOOD SIDING IS PUSHED IN AND DETERIORATING. THE UH, SEAL PLATE THAT IS ANCHORED TO THE FOUNDATION NO LONGER EXISTS. THE FOLLOWING PHOTOS OF THE LEFT ELEVATION, WHERE YOU SEE MORE OF THE SAME SIDING IS DAMAGED, OVERHANG IS DAMAGED. UH, THE SECOND FLOOR WINDOW IS MISSING, AND THE WRAP THAT WAS COVERING IT HAS COME OFF EXPOSING THE INTERIOR TO THE ELEMENTS. THE NEXT PHOTO IS OF THE INTERIOR OF THE STRUCTURE. UH, INTERIOR WAS A, WAS ACCESSED THROUGH THE REAR ELEVATION. THE INSIDER REMAINS COMPLETELY GUTTED AND DRYWALL IS REMOVED. THE NEXT PHOTO IS THE SAME ROOM TO THE LEFT, WHERE YOU SEE THE ONLY BARRIER FROM THE OUTSIDE ELEMENTS IS THE WRAP PLACED ALONG THE EXTERIOR WALL. THE NEXT PHOTO IS FACING TO THE RIGHT OF THE INTERIOR WHERE THEIR KITCHEN EXISTED. UH, THIS PHOTO WAS PRESENTED DURING THE FIRST HEARING ON MARCH 14TH, 2024, SHOWING THE REAR WALL AND STUDS WERE DAMAGED AND DETERIORATING. AND THEN THE NEXT PHOTO IS A MORE RECENT VIEW OF THE SAME WALL. HERE YOU SEE THE, UH, THE OWNER PLACE BRACING ALONG THE WALL TO HELP SUPPORT THE REAR OF THE STRUCTURE WHERE THE S SEAL PLATE, UH, AND THE SEAL PLATE IS, IS VISIBLY MISSING. THE FOLLOWING PHOTO IS A CLOSER LOOK AT THE REAR WALL WHERE I MENTIONED EARLIER THAT THE SEAL PLATE ANCHORED TO THE FOUNDATION NO LONGER EXISTS, AND THE SEAL PLATE TO THE LEFT IS FALLING APART. THE FOLLOWING PHOTO SHOWS THE VIEW FROM THE SAME CORNER. UH, THIS PHOTO GIVES A BETTER OUTLINE OF THE STRUCTURE. HERE YOU CAN SEE THE STAIRS THAT LEAD TO THE UPPER LEVEL AND ALL THE EXPOSED WOOD MEMBERS, PLUMBING AND ELECTRICAL WIRING. THE NEXT PHOTO IS GONNA BE OF THE STAIRWAY LEADING TO THE THE NEXT LEVEL. UH, I'D LIKE TO ADVISE THE BOARD THE PHOTOS FROM HERE. UH, THE SECOND FLOOR WERE TAKEN FROM THE, FROM THE LEFT TO THE RIGHT. SO THE NEXT PHOTO IS THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SECOND FLOOR. DAYLIGHT IS PRESENT THROUGHOUT THE SECOND FLOOR. THE SUBFLOOR IS WARPED AND WATER DAMAGE IS PRESENT. THE NEXT PHOTO IS OF THE REAR LEFT SIDE OF THE SECOND FLOOR. HERE YOU SEE THE DAMAGED FLOOR GETS WORSE AS WE GET TO THE EXTERIOR PERIMETER OF THE STRUCTURE. UH, YOU CAN ALSO SEE MOLD IS PRESENT ON THE RAFTERS. THE NEXT PHOTO IS OF THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE, OF THE STAIRWELL. THIS IS THE ROOM WHICH RUNS ALONG THE WALL WHERE THE WRAPPING IS COVERING THE ENTIRE WALL. THE FOLLOWING PHOTO IS OF THE FRONT PART OF THE SECOND FLOOR WHERE THE DAMAGED EXTENSION, WHERE THE DAMAGED EXTENSION EXTENSION HAS BEEN REMOVED. AND THE NEXT PHOTO IS OF THE RIGHT REAR SIDE OF THE STRUCTURE, SHOWING MORE DAMAGED FLOORING, EXPOSED WOOD MEMBERS AND ELECTRICAL WIRING. THIS IS A TWO STORY RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE IN NEGLECTED CONDITION. EXTERIOR STRUCTURE HAS MISSING AND DAMAGED SIDING ALONG WITH THE DAMAGED ROOF SYSTEM. STRUCTURAL DAMAGE IS OCCURRING DUE TO STRUCTURE BEING OPENED TO THE OUTSIDE ELEMENTS. SUBFLOORING ON SECOND FLOOR HAS SUSTAINED WATER DAMAGE AND UNSAFE TO WALK ON SINCE THE BSB HEARING ON MARCH 14TH, 2024. THE ONLY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO THE STRUCTURE CONSISTS OF REMOVAL OF THE EXTENDED OVERHANG ON THE SECOND FLOOR AND TEMPORARY BRACING INSTALLED TO SUPPORT THE REAR WALL. TO RECAP THE STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 74 38 KINGSTON IS IN VIOLATION OF CITY CODE ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER SIX DASH 1 56, SUBSECTIONS 1 2 5 7 8 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18, IN WHICH ANY BUILDING OR STRUCTURE, WHICH HAS ANY OR ALL OF THE CONDITIONS OR DEFECTS HEREIN AFTER DESCRIBED, SHALL BE DEEMED TO BE A DANGEROUS BUILDING AND A HAZARD TO PUBLIC HEALTH. SAFETY AND WELFARE. PROVIDED THAT CONDITIONS OF DEFECTS OF DILAPIDATION, SUBSTANDARD, OR UNFITNESS FOR HUMAN HABITATION POSE A THREAT OR POTENTIAL THREAT TO LIFE, HEALTH, PROPERTY, OR HUMAN SAFETY STAFF RECOMMENDS DEMOLITION. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION OF 74 38 KINGSTON. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR THE CODE OFFICER, MR. CHAIR? UH, MR. MAGIS? TWO NINE, UH, 2 19 20 24. YOU CREATED, AS YOU CALLED IT IN HERE, A ACTION CREATED TO HAVE THE PROPERTY CUT AND CLEANED AN ABATEMENT. YES, SIR. UM, DO YOU HAVE THE FINAL OF THAT? UM, I DO NOT HAVE. ARE ARE YOU ASKING LIKE FOR THE AMOUNT OR HOW MUCH? YEAH, BECAUSE APPARENTLY IT HAPPENED, CORRECT. THE TIME IT IS TO NOW, I DO NOT HAVE THE ACTUAL COST, BUT I CAN ADVISE THE BOARD THAT, UH, WE HAVE ACTUALLY HAD A TOTAL OF NINE WORK ORDER REQUESTS TO HAVE THIS PROPERTY CLEANED SINCE [00:15:01] 20 22 9, CORRECT. ABATEMENTS? YES, SIR. OKAY. ANY FURTHER SECURITY OF THE PROPERTY? I'M SORRY. ANY FOR SECURING THE PROPERTY, LIKE THE BUILDING AND STUFF OR, UM, I, I BELIEVE IT WAS MAINLY JUST CUTTING AND CLEANING. SO THE OWNER DID ALL THE SECURING? CORRECT. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YOU CALLED OFFICER. THANK YOU, SIR. YES, SIR. ANDRES CARLO, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME FORWARD. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR HOME ADDRESS, PLEASE. ANDRES CARILLO, UH, . LEMME SEE IF I REMEMBER THAT. JUST, SORRY, WHAT WAS THE ADDRESS AGAIN? CAN'T REMEMBER THE ADDRESS. 74 38 KINGSTON. 74 38 KINGSTON. YEAH. SORRY ABOUT THAT. IS THAT, IS THAT YOUR HOME ADDRESS, SIR? YEAH. UH, NO, THAT'S THE YOUR HOME ADDRESS. OH, MY HOME ADDRESS. HOME ADDRESS, PLEASE. UH, 68 0 6 SPOON LAKE. THANK YOU. YOUR TESTIMONY, PLEASE. UH, WELL, THE, THE REASON I DIDN'T, UH, YOU KNOW, HAVEN'T COMPLETE THE WORK, UH, AT THAT PROPERTY IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I DID TRY TO PULL ALL THE PERMITS BY MY LICENSE, YOU KNOW, UH, GUY FIRE. AND NOW THAT THE CITY IS REQUIRING, UH, A, UH, ICC TEST, UH, YOU KNOW, WE WEREN'T ABLE TO LIKE PASS THE TEST LIKE THE FIRST AND SECOND TIME. BUT FINALLY, YOU KNOW, I HAVE, UH, ONE OF MY WORKERS THAT HE DID PASS THE TEST AND, UH, WE WERE READY TO, UH, WE'RE READY TO UPLOAD THE CERTIFICATE AND ALL THAT. BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, I DID, I DID PUT SOME SUPPORT, LIKE IN, IN THE, YOU KNOW, ON THE INSIDE WALLS. I TOOK OUT THE DAMAGE STRUCTURE THAT IT WAS ON THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE AND PUT SOME, UH, TIEBACK WRAPPING, UH, PAPER. AND, UH, EVERYTHING ELSE PRETTY MUCH IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT CONSIDERED LIKE, UH, I MEAN, LIKE IT'S GONNA FELL APART OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. AND, UM, I WAS GONNA PROCEED TO DO THE FENCE. LIKE, I, I, YOU KNOW, I TOLD YOU GUYS AT FIRST, BUT MR. UH, DOMINGUEZ, HE TOLD ME NOT TO DO IT WITHOUT A PERMIT BECAUSE I COULD GET IN TROUBLE. THAT'S THE REASON I DIDN'T PUT THE FENCE UP. . ANY OTHER ISSUES, SIR? UH, I MEAN, NOW THAT WE'RE READY TO UPLOAD THE CERTIFICATE, UH, I MEAN, IF YOU GUYS GIMME MORE TIME, I CAN TAKE CARE OF IT. THE REASON I HAVEN'T DO ANYTHING THERE IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE LICENSE ISSUE, MY CONTRACTUAL LICENSE. BUT I, I DO HAVE THE FUNDS AND EVERYTHING TO GET IT DONE. NOW THAT WE'RE READY TO PULL PERMITS, CAN YOU SHOW US THE INFORMATION ON THOSE FUNDS AVAILABLE? YEAH. SORRY. I COULD, SHOULD PRINT MY, UH, STATEMENT, BUT I, I HAVE IT HERE. WIFI, UH, HE'S HAVING TROUBLE. HE'S, HE'S, HE'S HAVING TROUBLE WITH THE WIFI RIGHT NOW. GETTING HIS, UH, STATEMENT BACK STATEMENT. HE'S GONNA TAKE A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT WILL OPEN. MR. CHAIR, THIS IS THOMAS FRANKS. WHILE HE'S WORKING ON THAT, CAN ASK A QUESTION OF HIM. IT WOULD DISTRACT HIM FROM BEING ABLE TO TRY TO FIND WHAT HE'S LOOKING FOR HIS FIRST FINANCE. HOLD ON THE QUESTION, IF YOU DON'T MIND, PLEASE. I'LL WAIT. THANK YOU. IT'S, SORRY, I HAVE TMOBILE. NOT WORKING TOO GOOD RIGHT NOW? MM-HMM. ALMOST THERE. MM-HMM. [00:20:16] NOT WIFI. IS THAT HE'S, HE, HE'S ASKING IF THERE'S WIFI HE COULD CONNECT ONTO TO HERE? YEAH. CAN JUDY, CAN YOU TRY CONNECTING HIM TO COASTAL WIFI TO SEE IF THAT'LL HELP? SORRY ABOUT THAT. THAT'S OKAY. OKAY. IS FREE WIFI YOU TRY. EXCUSE MR. CHAIR. COUNSEL, THIS IS LEGAL. IF WE COULD TAKE, UM, A QUICK THREE TO FIVE MINUTES WHILE HE'S DOING THAT. THE TIME IS NOW 9 26. WE'RE GONNA TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK WHILE HE'S TRYING TO LOAD UP THAT INFORMATION ON HIS CELL PHONE. UH, NINE TWENTY SIX FIVE MINUTES. THE PHONE THEN HAS THE INFORMATION. OKAY. JUDY, IF YOU COULD, THE TIME IS NOW 9 32 AND WE'LL RECONVENE THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD. THE INFORMATION PROVIDED ON THE SCREEN IS THE, UH, AVAILABLE FUNDS THAT WE ASKED FOR. DOES, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY BESIDES THAT INFORMATION? UM, I MEAN, AT THIS POINT I, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I, YOU KNOW, NOW THAT ONE, YOU KNOW, MY, UH, UH, ESTIMATOR, HE ALREADY PASSED THE TEST. HE'S GONNA UPLOAD THE CERTIFICATE TODAY AND I SHOULD BE ABLE TO, UH, GIVE MY CONTRACTOR LICENSE BACK, YOU KNOW, BACK, UH, LIKE TO UPDATE IT. SO YOU'VE ACTUALLY PASSED THE TEST, YOU SAID? YEAH, I, OKAY. AND NOW YOU'RE JUST WAITING FOR THE CERTIFICATE OF, UH, BIG ISSUE. THE, THE ICC TEST THAT THE IS REQUIRED NOW. OKAY. AND, UH, THAT SHOULD BE GOOD TO GIVE MY CONTRACTOR LICENSE BACK. VERY GOOD. DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YES, I HAVE QUESTIONS. KAYLA, GO AHEAD. UM, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WAS THE REASON THAT YOU HAVE NOT TURNED IN, UH, THE ENGINEER'S REPORT OR A SCOPE OF WORK? UH, WELL, BECAUSE I DID TRY TO PULL THE PERMITS AND THEN WHENEVER I, I WAS TRYING TO SEND THAT TO THEM, IT DIDN'T, LIKE, IT DIDN'T PROCEED BECAUSE MY LICENSE WAS EXPIRED, SO I COULDN'T DO ANYTHING ELSE AFTER, YOU KNOW, SO THEY TELL ME TO GO RENEW MY LICENSE AND THEN TAKE CARE OF THE, ALL THE PERMITS. YOU DON'T NEED A LICENSE IN ORDER TO GET A SCOPE OF WORK. AND, UH, ENGINEER, SUPPORT ENGINEER UHHUH? WELL, I DID SEND THEM LIKE THE SCOPE OF WORK I WAS GONNA DO WHEN I, WHEN I WAS PULLING THE PERMITS, BUT I DID NOT TOOK AN ENGINEER OVER THERE. BUT DID YOU TAKE, DID YOU TURN THAT INTO THE CODE OFFICER? UH, NO, I, I DID IT TO THE OVER HERE WHERE I, WHERE YOU PULL THE PERMITS. I DID GIVE IT TO THEM, BUT NOT TO THE OFFICER. DO YOU HAVE A COPY OF IT WITH YOU? UH, NOT WITH ME. I DON'T HAVE IT. SO THE ORDER THAT WE ISSUED WAS TO TURN IT IN TO YOUR CODE OFFICER WITHIN 30 DAYS. AND THAT'S THE OPPOSITE HERE. I, YEAH, I PROBABLY MISUNDERSTOOD. I I JUST RETURNED IT TO THE, WHERE I PULLED THE PERMITS. OKAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, I'M GONNA FOLLOW UP ON THAT. IT ALSO SAID YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO GIVE A 30 DAY REPORT, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT? YEAH. AND YOU DIDN'T DO THAT EITHER? WELL, I JUST, I, I, I COMMUNICATE WITH MR. DOMINGUEZ LIKE ALL THE TIME. AND I EXPLAINED HIM. I EVEN SENT HIM PICTURES OF, UH, YOU KNOW WHAT I, WHAT I WAS TRYING TO RENEW MY LICENSE AND ALL THAT. BUT, YOU KNOW, AND I, I, EVERY TIME HE CALLED ME, I CALLED HIM BACK, YOU KNOW, AND TO EXPLAIN THE SITUATION, BUT OKAY. I I DID, UH, I DID NOT. YOU KEEP GOING BACK TO YOUR LICENSE? YEAH. WELL, YOU DON'T KNOW ANYBODY ELSE THAT COULD HAVE PULLED PERMITS. WELL, THAT HAD A LICENSE. WELL, I, I DID ASK AROUND, BUT YOU KNOW, NOBODY WANTED TO, UNLESS I GIVE THEM THE JOB, YOU KNOW. BUT, UM, , THEN YOU SHOULD HAVE GAVE THEM THE JOB. YEAH, WELL IT WAS, IT IS, IT WAS GONNA COST ME A LOT MORE THAN IF I DO IT, YOU KNOW, WITH MY, BUT YOU DELAYING THIS. YEAH, I UNDERSTAND. PUTS IT BACK ON OUR DOORSTEP TO MAKE A DECISION. MM-HMM. THAT IF YOU WOULD'VE HIRED ANOTHER CONTRACTOR, YOU WOULD'VE ALREADY HAD THIS THING DONE. YEAH. I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING. I'M A GENERAL CONTRACTOR AND IF I CAN'T GET SOMETHING DONE MY [00:25:01] WAY, THEN I HAVE TO GO OUTSIDE TO GET IT DONE FOR THE CLIENT. YEAH. YOU'RE THE CLIENT. IT'S LIKE A DOCTOR TRYING TO DIAGNOSE HIMSELF. THEY WERE THE WORST DOCTORS IN THE WORLD. WORST PATIENTS. YEAH. IT WAS JUST THAT THE PRICE, IT WAS GONNA BE LIKE DOUBLE OR, YOU KNOW, OR MORE THAN IF I, AND NOW WHERE ARE WE AT? YEAH. YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY ALL THIS TIME TO CORRECT THIS WITH OTHER CONTRACTORS. MM-HMM. MIGHT HAVE COST YOU MORE MONEY, BUT YOU WOULDN'T BE HERE NOW LOOKING AT A POSSIBLE DEMOLITION. CORRECT? YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S RIGHT. SO EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE TO THIS, I NOTICED THERE WAS NEW CONSTRUCTION IN THERE. WHEN WAS THAT DONE? UH, I BOUGHT IT. THAT'S THE WAY I BOUGHT THE HOUSE. NOW THAT WOOD IS NEW. IT'S NOT AGED WITH ALL THESE OPENINGS THAT WOOD WOULD HAVE AGE ON IT. ALL THE, ON THE SUPPORT WALL. WE DID THAT OURSELVES. BUT THAT WAS JUST TO SUPPORT THE BUG WALL THAT IT HAS THE PLATING, THE BOTTOM PLATING DAMAGE. HOLD ON A MINUTE. LET ME GET THAT PICTURE. 'CAUSE THAT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A SUPPORT WALL TO ME. YEAH, IT'S JUST BUILT A SUPPORT WALL. UH, IT'S A TEMPORARY WALL. IT WILL COME OUT, UH, YOU KNOW, SEVEN, UH, CAN YOU PULL UP PIXEL 74? THIS IS THE ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AS A SUPPORT WALL. HANG ON WHEN IT COMES UP. THIS ONE? YEAH. YEAH. THIS SUPPORT WALL. UH, YOU MISSING A FEW STUDS IN THERE, AREN'T YOU? IF IT'S A SUPPORT WALL, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE STUDDED AS A SUPPORT WALL TO LOOK TO HOLD THE WEIGHT. YEAH. AND THAT DOESN'T HOLD THE WEIGHT. THAT LOOKS MORE LIKE A, A CLOSET. WELL, THAT'S BECAUSE HE TOOK THE PICTURE BEFORE WE FINISH, BECAUSE ACTUALLY THE WAY HE TOOK THE PICTURES, WE WERE THERE. WELL, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE IN FRONT OF ME. THAT'S WHAT I GOTTA GO BY. YEAH. THAT LOOKS MORE LIKE A CLOSET THAN IT DOES A SUPPORT WALK. YEAH. YEAH, IT DOES. NOW IF YOU GO, THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW, THOUGH. IF YOU GO BACK TO WHEN YOU STARTED, YOU PUT WRAP ON IT TO DRY IT IN ON, ON ON THE BACK WALL. YEAH. MM-HMM. . BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT DOESN'T DRY IT IN 'CAUSE THE AIR FLOWS THROUGH THE WRAP. YEAH. WELL WE DID PUT SOME, LIKE, FOAM, UH, BOARD. AGAIN, NOT ON THE PICTURES. WE SAW THE PICTURES WE SAW CLEARLY SHOW, UM, I THINK FROM THE INSIDE IT IS SHOWING THE, IT SHOWS THE WRAP. IF YOU LOOK AT, UH, 71 CLEARLY SHOWS THERE'S NO INSULATION THERE. THAT'S THE ONE THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A BIG WINDOW. WHEN THAT POPS UP, YOU'RE GONNA LOOK JUST LIKE SOMEBODY'S GOT THAT ONE THERE. THAT'S NOT OH, THAT ONE THAT'S DOWN THAT WHOLE WALL. YEAH. THAT'S YOUR BACK WALL, CORRECT. YEAH. THAT I, I'M SORRY, THIS IS LEGAL. I'M GONNA STOP JUST FOR A MINUTE. UM, MR. CARILLO, WHEN YOU SPEAK, WE NEED TO GET YOU IN THE MICROPHONE BECAUSE WE ARE, WE ARE RECORDING THIS AND WE'RE ALSO BEING STREAMED. SO, OKAY. I, I MEANT NO DISRESPECT. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE CAPTURE YOUR TESTIMONY. YES, SIR. NO PROBLEM. ALSO AT THE TOP, WERE THOSE, THE RAFTERS UP THERE, THAT'S YOUR ROOF, CORRECT? UHHUH? YES, SIR. SO WHAT ARE THE RAFTERS CONNECTED TO? WHERE'S YOUR IN INVOICE? OH, THAT'S A, IT'S A FLAT ROOF. YEAH. BUT WHERE IS YOUR INVOICE UP THERE AT THE TOP THAT BIND THOSE RAFTERS FROM SIDE TO SIDE? WELL, IT'S JUST CONNECTED TO THE TOP PLAING. YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T, BUT THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF OPENING ON THE ROOF. IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THESE PICTURES, YOU DIDN'T YEAH, YOU DIDN'T PREVENT THE CREATURES FROM COMING IN. YEAH. AT THE ONE WHERE YOU SAY THAT'S A, THAT'S A SUPPORT WALL HAD HOLES IN THE BOTTOM. SO I, THAT'S THE ONLY THING I SEE THAT'S DIFFERENT. YEAH. I MEAN, I DIDN'T WANT TO DO A LOT IN THERE 'CAUSE WITHOUT A PERMIT THEN GET IN TROUBLE. BUT, YOU KNOW, I COULD DO A LITTLE, I MEAN, MAYBE A LOT OF MORE WE'RE HERE TODAY. AND YOU SAID YOU GAVE YOUR, UM, DOCUMENTATION TO THE PEOPLE WHO COLLECT THE PERMITS? YES. WAS THAT ON THE DOCUMENT? YEAH, THE COURT ORDER DIDN'T SAY THAT, DID IT. YOU SAID ALL DOCUMENTS GO TO THE CODE OFFICER. YEAH, I, THAT'S WHAT I SAID. I MISUNDERSTOOD THAT. UH, I THOUGHT THAT I WAS SUPPOSED TO GIVE THEM THE INFORMATION SO THEY COULD GIMME THE PERMITS AND, UM, I EVEN ASKED THEM IF I COULD DO AN ADDITION THERE, YOU KNOW, STUFF LIKE THAT. BUT THEY TOLD ME NOT UNTIL I GET MY CONTRACTOR LICENSE BACK. THANK YOU. UH, NO MORE QUESTIONS, MR. CHAIR. THIS IS LEGAL COUNSEL. UH, I, WE, UH, MR. CARILLO HAD STATED THAT HE PROVIDED SOME DOCUMENTATION TO PERMITTING. UM, I'VE ASKED, UM, UH, MS. CRUM AND HER TEAM TO, UH, PROVIDE THAT THE, THE ENTIRETY OF THE INFORMATION THAT THEY PROVIDED TO PERMITTING. UM, WE'VE WANTED TO PROVIDE THAT TO THE BOARD ALSO. THOMAS FRANKS, YOU HAD ANOTHER [00:30:01] QUESTION PREVIOUSLY, IF YOU WOULD YES. YES, SIR. MY QUESTION IS, WHY WEREN'T YOU MAINTAINING THE EXTERIOR OF THE PROPERTY? UM, AND READING THE NOTES, THE CITY'S HAD TO ABATE IT MULTIPLE TIMES, UM, AND SENT YOU LETTERS ABOUT IT. SO YOU WANT TO REPAIR THE, THE PROPERTY BUT NOT MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY? UH, WELL THE, ACTUALLY THAT'S THE WAY I BOUGHT IT. IT WAS ALREADY, YOU KNOW, THE WAY IT, THE WAY IT IS, THE WAY IT WAS ON THE PICTURES. THAT'S THE WAY I BOUGHT IT. AND YOU KNOW, I GOT, LIKE I TOLD YOU GUYS BEFORE, UH, I GOT SO BUSY WITH A LOT OF PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE I WORK FOR INVESTORS AND I JUST, YOU KNOW, LET IT SIT IN THERE FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR A LOT OF MONTHS. BUT THAT'S THE WAY I BOUGHT IT, YOU KNOW, AND I GUESS THE PREVIOUS OWNER DIDN'T MAINTAIN IT THOUGH. OKAY. WELL THESE ARE, I'M TALKING ABOUT AFTER YOU RECEIVED THE 90 DAY ORDER. THIS I JUST PULLED EASILY FOUR TIMES. THE CITY HAS HAD GONE OUT THERE AND BATHED PROPERTY. MM-HMM, . AND YOU LEFT BRUSH. OH, WHAT DO YOU MEAN? I SAYING THE GRASS? YEAH. YEAH. WE DO CUT THE GRASS. I SEND THAT GUY TO CUT THE GRASS ALL THE TIME. THE CITY'S DONE IT THREE TIMES. OH REALLY? . I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DO. 'CAUSE I MEAN, I SEND MY GUY ALL THE TIME THERE. I EVEN CUT THE TREES AND EVERYTHING. I KNOW THEY DIDN'T TOOK THE BRUSH BECAUSE THEY SAY I HAVE TO HAVE SERVICES. I TAUGHT THE, I TAUGHT BECAUSE I PAY MY TAXES, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS PART OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY SERVICES. BUT THEY SAY I HAVE TO HAVE LIKE, UH, TRASH AND ELECTRICAL. BUT I DID CALL 3 1 1 SO THEY CAN GIMME AN ESTIMATE TO SEE HOW MUCH THEY CHARGED ME TO TAKE THE BRUSH. WE CUT, YOU KNOW, FOR THE OVERGROWING TREES AND ALL THAT. 'CAUSE THEY WERE TOUCHING LIKE POWER LINES AND EVERYTHING ALREADY. SO I, YOU KNOW, I CUT, UH, WITH TRIM A LOT OF THE TREE. ALL RIGHT. MY FINAL QUESTION IS, WHEN YOU CAME BEFORE THE BOARD THE LAST TIME, DID YOU KNOW YOUR CONTRACTOR LICENSE WAS EXPIRED? WELL, I KNEW IT WAS ABOUT TO EXPIRE, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THIS NEW, UH, ICC TEST WAS GONNA BE REQUIRED. SO I THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE REALLY EASY FOR ME TO LIKE, JUST TO GO GET MY, UH, FVIP FINGERPRINTS, COME BACK AND RENEW IT. I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO PASS A-A-I-C-C TEST THIS TIME. , WHEN DID YOUR CURRENT LICENSE EXPIRE? WHEN IT WAS ON, UH, 0 5 3. UH, 24. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU MM-HMM? ? YES, SIR. HAVE A QUESTION. OKAY. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE GO AHEAD, COURTNEY. YOU STATED THAT ONE OF YOUR WORKERS PASSED THE ICC TEST SO YOU COULD GET YOUR CONTRACTOR'S LICENSE. I JUST WANNA VERIFY THAT HE CAN RENEW HIS CONTRACTOR'S LICENSE BASED ON HIS WORKER'S EXAM. OR DID YOU YOURSELF PASS THE TEST? UH, NO. IT WAS, UH, IT IS MY ESTIMATOR. HE HELPED ME WITH THE, YOU KNOW, ESTIMATES AND ALL THAT. SO CAN YOU RENEW YOUR LICENSE BASED ON SOMEONE ELSE'S PASSING THE TEST? YES. AS LONG AS HE IS PART OF THE COMPANY, UH, COMPANY, UH, UH, YOU CANNOT RENEW YOUR LICENSE OFF SOMEBODY ELSE'S TEST. AND THE CITY CANNOT ALLOW YOU TO DO THAT. 'CAUSE THE TEST IS SPECIFICALLY FOR YOU TO GET YOUR LICENSE. YEAH, BUT I MEAN, IF I HAVE, UH, SOMEBODY, A MEMBER LIKE IN THAT IS FROM THE COMPANY, THEY SAY THAT I COULD, IS THAT MEMBER A PARTNER IN THE COMPANY? IS THAT LEGAL FOR CLARIFICATION? IF HIS EMPLOYEE BECOMES A PRIMARY, HIS EMPLOYEE THEN BECOMES A LIABLE ONE. THE ONE LIABLE FOR ANY ACTIONS ON THAT. BUT HE DOESN'T RENEW HIS LICENSE, IS WHAT HE'S SAYING. HE RENEW HIS LICENSE OFF SOMEBODY ELSE. AND HE CAN'T DO THAT. THE PERSON THAT HOLDS THE LICENSE IS THE RESPONSIBLE BODY. HIS LICENSE IS NOT RENEWED. THAT IS CORRECT. HIS LICENSE. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M TELLING YOU. HE'S SAYING, NO, MY LICENSE IS RENEWED. IT IS NOT. THAT IS CORRECT. YOUR LICENSE DOES NOT GET RENEWED. THE PERSON WHO HOLDS THE LICENSE LIKE MYSELF, MM-HMM. IS LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGES. YOU'RE NOT, YOU ARE NOT LICENSED. THE PERSON WHO TOOK THE TEST IS LICENSED. OKAY. YEAH. BUT, BUT OF HE'S, IF HE'S PART OF THE COMPANY, THEY TELL YOU ARE NOT LICENSED THOUGH. IT'S HIS RESPONSIBILITY. MR. CHAIR. AND THIS IS LEGAL JUST TO CONFIRM IT, AFTER SPEAKING WITH STAFF, UM, IT, IT, IT, IT SHOULD BE REVERSED. THE PERSON WHO HAS THE LICENSE, AS LONG AS HE'S WORKING UNDER THAT PERSON, CAN WORK OFF OF THAT LICENSE, SO TO SPEAK. IT CAN'T BE, I HAVE A PERSON WORKING FOR ME, SO THEREFORE I NOW HAVE A LICENSE THAT THAT'S WHAT I JUST TOLD [00:35:01] HIM. AND HE KEEPS, YOU DON'T OWN THE LICENSE? MM-HMM. THE PERSON WHO TOOK THE TEST, YOU ARE WORKING OFF HIS LICENSE. HE'S RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING THAT GOES WRONG, EVEN THOUGH YOU OWN THE COMPANY. MM-HMM. , YOU DON'T HAVE THE LICENSE. THE PERSON WHO TOOK THE TEST HAS THE LICENSE AT, AT ISSUE THOUGH, HOWEVER, IS THE ABILITY TO GET A PERMIT. HE NOW HAS OR WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO GET A PERMIT BECAUSE AN EMPLOYEE HAS A LICENSE. AND THAT'S A STATEMENT THAT I NEED TO VERIFY. COUNSEL IS NODDING HIS HEAD. UH, UH, YES. I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE ACCURATE. OKAY. SO THEY, THEY NOW HAVE THE ABILITY OR HIS, HIS COMPANY HAS THE ABILITY TO PULL PERMITS IN REGARDS TO, UM, BEING A LICENSED CONTRACTOR? I WOULD, I WOULD, I I, I'D BEG TO DIFFER ON THAT. SO HE BASICALLY HAS THE ABILITY TO PROCEED WITH THE CONSTRUCTION. AND, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. HE, ONCE HE GETS A PERMIT AND HE HAS THE ABILITY TO GET THAT PERMIT, THERE ARE TWO PERMITS PULLED AT THIS TIME. IF I READ, I I, I DO WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S, IT'S, HIS COMPANY HAS THE ABILITY, RIGHT. TO PULL THAT PERMIT. YES. SORRY. THAT, THAT WOULD BE MY UNDERSTANDING ALSO. IF, IF, AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS AS OF, I THINK IT'S THE LAST LINE IN THERE THAT STATES THAT YOU HAVE TWO PERMITS PULLED. ONE IS A FOUNDATION AND ONE IS ROOF, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT. MM-HMM. . SO APPLIED. SO THEY'RE NOT ISSUED YET, RIGHT? YEAH. OKAY. WELL I GOT THE ENGINEER'S ASSUMPTION LETTER AND I WAS READY TO, UH, START WITH FOUNDATION AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S MY NEXT QUESTION. THAT'S JUST THE LETTER. YEAH. IT SAYS IN THERE THAT HE'S GONNA FOLLOW UP WITH A REPORT. WHERE IS THE REPORT? THE LETTER DOESN'T MEAN NOTHING. THE REPORT IS WHAT WE NEEDED TO SEE. YEAH. NO, BUT I WAS GONNA START, YOU KNOW. NO, NO, NO. THAT'S THE START. WHERE IS THE REPORT FOR THAT LETTER? WHAT DO YOU MEAN? THE REPORT? IF YOU READ WHAT IT SAYS, IF A REPORT WILL FOLLOW, WHICH MEANS HE'S GONNA GO OUT AND DO A SITE VISIT. OH YEAH. TYPE EVERYTHING UP AND PRESENT TO YOU WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE WITHIN THE SCOPE OF WHAT THE ENGINEER SAYS NEEDS TO BE DONE. WHERE IS THE REPORT? WELL, UH, HE DON'T GO OVER THERE, UH, UNLESS I PULL THE PERMIT. AFTER I PULL THE PERMIT, HE GO OVER THERE AND, UH, AND DO THE, THE SIDE, UH, VISIT? NO, BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PERMIT YOU NEED UNTIL HE GOES OUT. THE ENGINEER'S ALWAYS SUPPOSED TO GO OUT FIRST. I'VE NEVER KNOWN AN ENGINEER THAT WAITS TWO OF, FOR YOU TO PULL A PERMIT AND THEN GO LOOK AT IT. WELL, I'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF, A LOT OF, UM, ADDITIONS, FOUNDATIONS AND ALL THAT. AND EVERY TIME THEY SEND ME THE ASSUMPTION LETTER, I PULL THE PERMIT AND, UH, AND THEN HE GO OVER THERE AND TELL US WHAT WE NEED TO DO. WELL, I GUESS I GET DIFFERENT ENGINEERS BECAUSE AS A GENERAL CONTRACTOR, I HAVE TO KNOW WHAT TO PULL THE PERMITS FOR. YEAH, I GET IT. AND WHAT THE ENGINEER REQUIRES BY SPEC. MM-HMM. , SAME AS AN ARCHITECT AND EVERYBODY ELSE, THEY HAVE TO WAIT FOR THAT TO COME OUT. AND THERE'S NO REPORT IN FRONT OF US. YEAH, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THAT PART. AND EVERY ENGINEER IS DIFFERENT. I GUESS YOUR REQUIREMENTS TO, IN THE FIRST 30 DAYS WAS TO PRESENT WHAT? TO THIS COURT OR, OR ACTUALLY TO THE CODE OFFICER WITH ALL THE DOCUMENTATION, WHICH INCLUDES THE ENGINEER'S REPORT. YEAH, THE ENGINEER'S REPORT, NOT THE LETTER, THE SCOPE OF WORK, PROOF OF FINANCES. THERE'S ANOTHER ONE IN THE, WHAT'S THAT FOURTH ONE? UM, THE TIME PERIOD REQUIRED, THE TIME PERIOD REQUIRED, ALL SUPPOSED TO BE GIVEN TO THE CO COMPLIANCE WITHIN 30 DAYS. AND THEN EVERY 30 DAYS AFTER THAT, YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO GIVE HIM A REPORT OR A STATUS OF WHAT'S GOING ON WHEN HE MAKES HIS SITE VISIT. AND THAT HASN'T HAPPENED 90 DAYS. AND THIS IS WELL OVER 90 DAYS. YES, SIR. AND YOU HUNG IT ALL ON YOUR CONTRACT THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A CONTRACTOR'S LICENSE. SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY. THERE'S NO REPORTS IN FRONT OF US. THE ONLY THING WE SAW WAS A BANK STATEMENT. MM-HMM. , IF YOU WOULD, LET ME ALLOW AN INTERRUPTION BECAUSE THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS, UH, THERE. IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT STAFF HAS BESIDES THE ENGINEER'S REPORT THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT? THAT THAT WAS THE ONLY DOCUMENTATION. IT WAS THAT, THAT ASSUMPTION LETTER OR THAT, THAT LETTER FROM THE ENGINEER. SO WE HAVE NO SCOPE OF WORK BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW RIGHT NOW. BASED ON WHAT, UH, UH, MS. KRUM AND HER TEAM, UM, DID RESEARCH ON AND, AND, UM, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, UH, COMPUTER SYSTEM, NO. UH, AND I'M ASSUMING THAT THERE ARE NO OTHER PERMITS THAT HAVE YOU HAVE STARTED LIKE THE ELECTRICAL PERMIT? HAVE YOU STARTED THE ELECTRICAL PERMIT? NO. I MEAN, UH, ALL THIS SCOPE OF WORK, EVERYTHING IS ON THE APPLICATION, YOU KNOW, ON THE, UH, CITY, UM, APP. BUT I WASN'T ABLE TO SUBMIT IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF MY LICENSE, I, YEAH, IT TOOK TOO LONG TO LIKE OKAY. TO PROCEED WITH THE PROCESS. AND HOW MUCH TIME WOULD YOU NEED IF YOU WERE TO HAVE A CHANCE TO REPAIR THIS PROPERTY? WELL, NOW THAT I'M GETTING MY LICENSE BACK, I CAN, YOU KNOW, FIRST I CAN START RIGHT AWAY WITH, UH, UM, FOUNDATION AND ROOF AND SIDING [00:40:01] WINDOWS AND ALL THAT. THAT IS MOST, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO DO IN THERE RIGHT NOW. TOTAL TIME, PLEASE. I CAN GET IT ON 60 DAYS IN 60 DAYS. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE'RE SURE AT THIS TIME, DO WE HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, KAYLA, I REALLY JUST HAVE A STATEMENT. UM, I REMEMBER THIS CASE AND, UH, THERE'S A SCHOOL RIGHT THERE. YES. SO THAT SINCE ABSOLUTELY MUST GO UP. I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. THE FENCE MUST GO UP. YES. THE FENCE TO KEEP THE KIDS OUT. OH, THAT'S RIGHT. THERE'S A SCHOOL RIGHT THERE. THAT, THAT I REMEMBER THIS CASE. AND, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE YEAH. IMPORTANT FACTORS OF IT. AND THE SECOND THING I WANT TO SAY IS YOU'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE. SO YOU KNEW THE INFORMATION THAT WE WERE REQUESTING AND YOU CAME AGAIN EMPTY HANDED FOR THE SECOND TIME. YES. AND THAT IS JUST NOT ACCEPTABLE? YES. AND, AND I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND IT'S MY FAULT. AND, UM, I WAS GONNA PUT THE FENCE UP, BUT LIKE, I COULD SAY THE, ALL THE MR. DOMINGUEZ TOLD ME NOT TO DO IT BECAUSE IF I DO IT, AND THEN I COULD HAVE, HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING UNDER THE STRIKE TEAM. YOU KNOW, IF I DO THAT WITHOUT A PERMIT, THAT'S THE REASON I DIDN'T PUT THE FENCE UP. BUT NOW I CAN PUT IT RIGHT AWAY AS SOON AS I GIVE MY LICENSE, YOU KNOW, NOT WITHOUT A PERMIT. MR. CHAIR, THIS IS LEGAL COUNSEL. A FEW THINGS. MR. CARTIO, YOU, YOU STATE YOU DIDN'T PUT THE FENCE UP 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, YOU WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE PERMIT, BUT DIDN'T YOU ALREADY DO SOME WORK ON THE PROPERTY WITHOUT A PERMIT? YEAH, BUT IT'S JUST, UH, JUST LIKE TEMPORARY STUFF. SO IN OTHER WORDS, YOU DID DO, YOU DID SELECTIVE WORK WITHOUT A PERMIT, BUT NOT PUT A REC FENCE TO KEEP CHILDREN OUT OF THE AREA. IS THAT CORRECT, SIR? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. ALSO, I WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR. ARE YOU ABLE TO OBTAIN YOUR LICENSE? YES. FOR WHAT I HEAR FOR THE INFORMATION THAT THE CITY, UH, GAVE IT TO US. YES. AND WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU CANNOT, ARE YOU STILL GONNA DO THE WORK WITHOUT BEING LICENSED? UH, WELL THIS PERSON THAT WHO WORKS FOR ME NOW, UH, IF I CAN RENEW WITH MY NAME, HE'S GONNA DO IT WITH HIS NAME. WILL YOU STILL BE IN CHARGE OF IT EVEN THOUGH YOU DON'T HAVE A LICENSE? YES, I STILL BE IN CHARGE. UM, LASTLY, UM, YOU DIDN'T DO ANY REPAIRS ON THE FIRST 90 DAY REPAIR ORDER. YOU'RE NOW COMING IN FRONT OF THE BOARD AND ASKING FOR ANOTHER 60 DAYS TO DO THAT REPAIR ORDER. UM, I, I, I DO WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR. UH, ARE YOU READY TO START DOING THE WORK? YES, SIR. LEGAL DOESN'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE ONE QUESTION. OKAY, GO AHEAD. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE. YOU. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE ONCE SOMEONE PASSES THE ICC TEST? IN ORDER TO GET THE LICENSE AND TO PULL A PERMIT? IT JUST TAKES AS LONG AS FOR THEM TO SUBMIT THE PAPERWORK TO THE, TO STAFFING. ONCE THEY SHOW THE PROOF THAT THEY HAVE ALL THE REQUIREMENTS, THEY CAN, THEY CAN BE QUALIFIED IMMEDIATELY. THERE. THERE'S NO DELAY. THAT'S ALL ON THE, THE OPERATOR OR THE OWNER OF THAT INFORMATION THAT THEY NEED TO COME DOWN AND DO THAT DUE DILIGENCE AND FOLLOW UP ON IT. OKAY. I ALSO WANTED TO CLARIFY JUST BEFORE WE GET TOO FAR DOWN, I WANTED TO CLARIFY FROM THE BOARD. IT WAS A TEMPORARY FENCE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NEEDING TO BE INSTALLED. THERE'S NO PERMIT REQUIRED FOR A TEMPORARY FENCE. THERE'S NO CONTRACTOR REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT. TEMPORARY FENCING CAN BE PUT UP AT ANY TIME. SO THERE, THERE WOULD'VE BEEN NO STIPULATIONS OF ONE REQUIRING A CONTRACTOR'S LICENSE FOR THAT. EVEN IF A, ANY TYPE OF PERMIT WAS NEEDED, ANY CITIZEN CAN OBTAIN A, A ACTUAL INSTALL FENCE PERMIT. BUT EVEN THEN A TEMPORARY FENCE IS WHAT THEY'RE, WHAT THEY'RE REQUIRING. SO I JUST WANTED IF WE COULD PUT THAT WORDING, IF WE'RE GONNA WORD THAT'S A REQUIREMENT AT ANY POINT IF WE COULD, AS A TEMPORARY FENCING SO THAT WE'RE CLEAR ON THAT. AND I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THE SAME THING. YOU DON'T NEED HOLD ON A LICENSE TO PUT A FENCE UP. HOLD, HOLD ON JUST A MINUTE. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE. COURTNEY, GO AHEAD. SHE HAD CONTINUED QUESTION. UM, AT WHAT DATE DID YOUR EMPLOYEE PASS THE ICC TEST? LET ME SEE. IT IS NOT GIVING ME A DATE, BUT I DO HAVE THE CERTIFICATE NUMBER HERE. IF, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS BE ABLE TO PULL IT, UH, LIKE SOMEWHERE. THAT'S THE INFORMATION, UH, YOU GOT FOR THE ICC CERTIFICATE. WHILE THEY'RE LOOKING ON THAT, HOW LONG HAVE YOU HAD THIS EMPLOYEE IN YOUR SERVICE? HE'S BEEN, UH, ABOUT A YEAR. ABOUT A YEAR? [00:45:01] YEAH. BUT BEFORE HE HAS HIS LICENSE. I HAVE MY LICENSE, BUT NOW THAT WE HAVE TO PASS THE ICC TEST, THAT'S WHY HE'S HELPING ME OUT UNTIL I KEEP A STUDENT AND I CAN POSITIVE TEST MYSELF. BUT THE CITY TOLD HIM THAT, UH, IF HE IS A PART OF THE, YOU KNOW, LIKE, UH, EMPLOYEE FROM MY COMPANY, THAT I CAN STILL RENEW IT. BUT YOU KNOW, IF HE SAY NO, MAYBE I'M, YOU KNOW, WE GOT THE WRONG INFORMATION OR SOMETHING. MR. CHAIR, THIS IS LEGAL. I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION, COURTNEY, IS IT OKAY? YEAH, AS LONG AS WE COME BACK TO HOW LONG TO THAT DATE? I'M CURIOUS HOW LONG AGO HE PASSED THAT TEST. COUNSEL, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE. UH, I, I, LET ME JUST SEE. DO WE HAVE AN ANSWER FOR, FOR THAT? MSRE? DO WE HAVE AN ANSWER YET? NO, WE DON'T. UH, SIR, IF YOU COULD JUST READ THAT ICC NUMBER INTO THE RECORD. OKAY. YEAH, THE CERTIFICATE NUMBER IS, UH, 1 0 3 4 9 6 0 1. I THINK WHAT I, I THINK THEY MIGHT BE, UM, RESEARCHING THAT QUESTION, MS. ROSEN. UM, SO WE WILL GET BACK TO, IF WE CAN FIND THAT ANSWER, WE WILL GET TO GET TO YOU IMMEDIATELY. UH, MR. CARDILLO, I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR YOU. UM, THE ORDER THAT WAS, UM, UM, THAT WAS SIGNED ON THE 22ND OF MARCH, CAN YOU POINT OUT ANY OF THE WORK ON THAT ORDER THAT YOU ACTUALLY DID? DO, DID, I DID DO, YES. IF YOU WANT ME TO, I COULD TELL YOU WHAT IT WAS. IT WAS REPAIR THE, REPAIR THE PROPERTY IN 90 DAYS. DID YOU DO THAT? NO. COULD, UM, ERECT A CONSTRUCTION FENCE? DID YOU DO THAT? WELL, UM, LIKE I SAY, I DID, UH, MENTION THAT TO MR. DOMINGUEZ AND HE TOLD ME NOT TO DO IT WITHOUT, AND I, SIR, I, I DON'T KNOW WHO MR. DOMINGUEZ IS, BUT I DO KNOW THAT THIS BOARD ORDERED A CONSTRUCTION FENCE TO BE PUT UP. DID YOU DO THAT? NO. OKAY. UM, ALSO THE REPAIRS WERE, WERE TO BE DONE. UM, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE A DETAILED SCOPE OF WORK WITHIN 30 DAYS TO THE CODE OFFICIAL. HAVE YOU DONE THAT? I DID IT TO THE, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHERE I WAS PULLING THE PERMITS, BUT I DIDN'T GIVE IT TO THE, TO THE OFFICER. OKAY. UM, ALL PERMITS WERE TO BE PULLED PRIOR TO WORK BEING COMMENCED. DID YOU DO THAT? NOPE. AND THEN YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO GIVE, UM, STATUS REPORTS EVERY 30 DAYS TO THE CODE OFFICIAL. DID YOU DO THAT? UH, BY PHONE? SO THE ANSWER IS YES. YOU GAVE THEM 30 DAYS STATUSES EVERY 30 DAYS? YES. OKAY. UM, AND I, I, I WANT TO ALSO MAKE SURE, DO YOU, IF YOU ARE GIVEN AN, AN ORDER TO REPAIR, DO YOU PLAN ON DOING THOSE THINGS THIS TIME? YES, SIR. THIS TIME FOR SURE. EVEN IF I HAVE TO PAY EXTRA, YOU KNOW, I, I WILL TAKE CARE OF IT. MS. ROSEN, DID YOU HAVE A CONTINUATION OTHER THAN THE QUESTION OF THE DATE OF THAT LICENSE OR CERTIFICATE? EXCUSE ME. THE REASON I'M ASKING FOR THE DATE IS I WANNA, SINCE IT DOES NOT TAKE LONG, ONCE THE INFORMATION IS PRESENTED, I WANNA KNOW HOW LONG WE'VE BEEN WAITING TO PRESENT THE INFORMATION. I THINK THE QUESTION OF HOW FAST YOU ACT ON THINGS THAT ARE PRESENTED TO YOU IS RELEVANT TO BEING ABLE TO GET THIS VERY LARGE TASK DONE WITHIN THE NEXT 60 DAYS. AND SO MY LOGIC IS IF IT WAS PASSED THE ICC TEST WAS PASSED SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF TIME AGO, WHY HAVEN'T WE ALREADY FILED TO GET THAT LICENSE? SO YOU CAN PULL PERMITS. SO, WELL, I, I, I'M SORRY. ACTUALLY HE IS UPLOADING THE, THE TE THE ICC TEST THIS MORNING. I DID UPLOAD MY INSURANCE, UH, CERTIFICATE LAST NIGHT. I'M JUST WAITING FOR HIM TO UPLOAD, UH, HIS CERTIFICATE AND THEN I'M GONNA FIND OUT IF I CAN RENEW MINE RIGHT AWAY. IF NOT, HE WILL HELP ME PULL THE PERMITS. MS. ROSEN, IT, IT, WE, WE CANNOT. AND, AND THE REST OF THE BOARD, WE CANNOT LOOK UP BY THE, UH, THE NUMBER. IT NEEDS TO BE A FIRST AND LAST NAME. IT IS A THIRD PARTY WEBSITE, SO IT'S NOT UNDER, UH, THE CITY'S, UH, CONTROL. SO WE WOULD NEED A, A, A FULL NAME FIRST AND LAST TO, TO LOOK THAT INFORMATION UP. MR. ANDIS, I INTERRUPTED YOU. IF YOU WOULD GO WITH YOUR QUESTION PLEASE. THAT JUST STRUCK TWO THINGS. YOU JUST SAID YOU UPLOADED YOUR INSURANCE LAST NIGHT AND YOU JUST UPLOADED THE ICC TEST, CORRECT? UH, HE'S GOING TO TODAY. WHO? THE, THE GUY WHO WORKS FOR ME. WHAT'S HIS NAME IS, IS THERE A POSSIBLE THAT WE CAN GET HIS NAME INSTEAD OF REFERENCING HIM AS THE GUY? YES. IT'S ALSO HERE ON THE CAN, CAN YOU TELL, CAN YOU STATE HIS NAME PLEASE? YEAH, LEE. [00:50:01] DO MR. LEE DO DOLF? YEAH. WITH A D? YEAH. DUFF. FIRST NAME LEE. LEE. JACKIE LEE. YEAH, IT'S JACKIE AND THEN LEE. LEE. SO NOW YOU THREW ANOTHER NAME IN THERE. JACKSON LEE DUFF. RIGHT? BUT HE SAID LEE AT FIRST NOW YOU THREW JACKSON LEE. WELL, I CALL HIM LEE ALL THE TIME. SO THAT'S WHAT THEY NEED TO FIND OUT THE INFORMATION. YEAH, THE NAME. I HEAR YOU. OKAY. YOU'RE GIVING PIECES AND PARTS. NOT THE FULL STORY HERE. MM-HMM. . YEAH. WELL, HERE WHERE THE CERTIFICATE NUMBER IS. IT IS ALSO HIS COMPANY. UH, NAME HIS, I TELL YOU WHAT, CAN YOU GIVE THE PHONE AND HIS NAME AS WELL? AND BECAUSE YOU'RE GIVING ME ONE NAME AND THEN YOU GIVE ANOTHER NAME WITH IT, YOU GOTTA GIVE THE FULL THING FOR US TO GET THE STORY. YEAH, . SORRY ABOUT THAT. IT'S NOT FUNNY. I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU KEEP LAUGHING, MS. BRANDICE, I'M GONNA INTERRUPT YOU IF YOU WOULD PLEASE. I'M JUST NERVOUS. I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. BACK TO WHERE WE WERE BEFORE. GO TO A SPECIFIC QUESTION PLEASE. YOU STATED THAT YOU ARE WORKING OFF OF HIS DOCUMENTATION. YOUR, YOUR EMPLOYEE. GOT IT. AND YOU'RE WORKING, I USE THAT WORD, WORKING ON HIS PAPER. WHAT ELSE ARE YOU WORKING ON BESIDES THIS HOUSE? YOU HAVE OTHER CONTRACTS? YEAH. SO YOU'RE WORKING OTHER CONTRACTS WITH HIS DOCUMENTATION? YEAH, BUT I'M, I'M JUST DOING STUFF THAT, UH, OTHER LIKE ELECTRICIANS AND HVAC GUYS PULLED THE PERMITS FOR ME AND THEN WE WORK TOGETHER. BUT YOU'RE, I'M NOT DOING ANYTHING THAT, UH, THAT IS, YOU'RE WORKING ON OTHER PROJECTS WITH HIS DOCUMENTATION, NOT JUST THIS HOUSE. RIGHT. BUT ONLY ELECTRICAL AND HVAC AND, UH, THIS PROJECT, I'M NOT READY FOR, FOR THAT AT ALL UNTIL I GET EVERYTHING ELSE DONE. BUT YOU SUBMITTED FOR TWO PERMITS ON THIS PROPERTY. YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE NOT READY TO DO IT, BUT YOU SUBMITTED FOR TWO PERMITS, THEN YOU'RE NOT READY. YEAH, BUT I, THAT WAS FOR FOUNDATION AND ROOF. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE'LL DO EVERYTHING ELSE. MR. CHAIR, THE, THE INFORMATION IS BEING PROVIDED, UH, TO YOU RIGHT THERE. AND WE DO HAVE, UM, STAFF HERE IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. SO THIS INDIVIDUAL IS LIABLE FOR YOUR COMPANY WORKING, CORRECT? YES, SIR. AND YOUR OTHER PROJECTS YOU'RE WORKING ON, 'CAUSE YOU KEEP USING THE WORD WORKING IS NOT ON THIS ONE. YOU'VE NEVER TOUCHED THIS PROJECT IN THOSE 90 DAYS. 'CAUSE YOU DIDN'T HAVE PERMITS, RIGHT? YES, SIR. BUT YOU JUST TOLD ME YOU BUILT THAT SUPPORT WALL. YES, SIR. SO THAT MEANS YOU'RE WORKING ON IT. YOU TOLD HIM YOU WEREN'T WORKING ON IT. OH, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE ONLY THING. I DID THE TEMPORARY WALL AND THEN JUST LIKE REMOVE LIKE THE DEMOLITION, REMOVE THE, THE STRUCTURE THAT I, IT WAS ACTUALLY LIKE FAILING DOWN AND IT WAS DANGEROUS. UH, DO YOU NEED A PERMIT FOR DEMOLITION? YES. DID YOU KNOW THAT? YES. BUT YOU DID DEMO WITHOUT A PERMIT? YES. BUT THAT WAS BECAUSE IT WAS DANGEROUS? NO, BECAUSE AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN, POINT OF ORDER, GO AHEAD WITH YOUR POINT OF ORDER. I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND MR. ANDERSON, THIS IS NOT AN INTERROGATION. WELL, I'M NOT INTERROGATING, I'M ASKING QUESTIONS. 'CAUSE HE KEEPS GOING BACK SAYING HE'S NOT WORKING MR. CHAIRMAN, BUT THEN HE SAYS HE, MR. ANDERSON, POINT OF ORDER IS OB IS OBSERVED, POINT OF ORDER IS CONFIRMED. MR. ANIS, IF YOU WOULD ASK QUESTIONS ONLY, PLEASE CHAIR. MAY I, MAY I JUMP IN AND SAY A FEW WORDS? UH, YOU, MR. ANES, YOU OKAY WITH THE INTERRUPTION? GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. SO THE RECORD THIS THANK YOU CHAIR. MY NAME IS AMIN THOMAS, INTERIM DIRECTOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. SO I WAS WATCHING THIS UP IN MY OFFICE. THAT'S WHY I CAME DOWN HERE TO CLARIFY A FEW THINGS. THE GENTLEMAN HERE, HE MENTIONED THAT, UH, MR. DUFF, THE PERSON WHO HAS THE ICC CERTIFICATION HAS BEEN WORKING FOR HIM FOR OVER A YEAR. THIS PERSON DOES HAVE A CERTIFICATION FROM ICC. HE ATTENDED DECEMBER 29TH, 2023. SO HE HAD IT SINCE DECEMBER LAST YEAR. SO IF HE'S BEEN WORKING FOR HIM FOR A YEAR, WHY HE DID NOT APPLY FOR HIS PERMIT SINCE THEN. IT'S BEEN NINE MONTHS NOW AND HE DID NOT APPLY. UH, CAN I ASSUME THAT THAT IS A QUESTION GOING TO THE WITNESS? YES, SIR. YES, SIR. OKAY. DID YOU HEAR THE QUESTION? THE QUESTION WAS WHY, SINCE THIS INDIVIDUAL HAS HAD THE LICENSE THIS LONG, WHY DID YOU WAIT? YEAH, I MEAN, HIS, WE WERE, WE'VE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER AND HE WAS DOING, UH, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN, BUT HE WASN'T DOING LIKE, GOOD ON FINANCIAL STUFF AND HE DIDN'T REALLY WANT TO DO ANYTHING BACK THEN. BUT NOW, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT IT AND HE'S, HE'S WILLING TO HELP ME. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, IAIN? NO, SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR. ANDES. WE INTERRUPTED YOU. YOU GO AHEAD WITH YOUR QUESTIONS, PLEASE. [00:55:04] WHEN YOU APPLIED FOR THE PERMITS, AND I'M NOT SURE OF THE DATE, IF SOMEBODY GOT THE NOTES UP, CAN, CAN, UH, SOMEBODY SCROLL 29TH, WHICH, WHAT DATE? APRIL 29TH, 2024. IN APRIL WHEN YOU GUYS APPLIED FOR THE PERMITS. AND THEY STILL HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING UP TO THAT POINT. AND I GUESS THE BOARD'S IS KIND OF CONFUSED BECAUSE YOU KEEP SAYING YOU, THIS GUY IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE ONE THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DOING THIS. YES. BUT YOU KEEP TELLING US THAT YOU AND OTHER CONTRACTORS ARE PULLING PERMITS. WHEN YOU PULLED THESE PERMITS, WHY DIDN'T THE ELECTRICIAN, PLUMBER AND ALL THEM PULL THE SAME, PULL THEIR PERMITS AT THE SAME TIME? BECAUSE, UH, THEY TELL ME THEY CANNOT PULL ANY PERMITS UNTIL I GET, UH, BUILDING, UH, UH, BUILDING PERMIT. BUT YOU'RE WORKING OFF SOMEBODY ELSE'S PERMIT. I MEAN LICENSE, YES, BUT THAT'S ONLY FOR ELECTRICAL AND HVAC. MRS. THOMAS, FRANK, I WANNA POINT OUT THAT IS, THAT IS CORRECT YOU FOR HVAC, THAT'S MY WORLD. FOR US TO GO INTO RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL TO PULL A PERMIT TO WORK ON SOMETHING, THAT BUILDING STILL HAS TO HAVE A MAIN BUILDING PERMIT. HE IS CORRECT. BUT MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS FOR ME, YOU'VE BEEN ALL OVER WITH DIFFERENT STORIES, RIGHT? UM, YOU, YOU TOLD US THIS GENTLEMAN HAD WORKED FOR YOU FOR OVER A YEAR NOW, AND THEN WE FIND OUT THAT HE'S BEEN LICENSED SINCE THE 23RD. YOU'VE MADE US BELIEVE THAT HE JUST RECENTLY GOT HIS CERTIFICATION. UM, IF IT WASN'T FOR A BOARD MEMBER TO ASK, WE WOULDN'T HAVE HAD THAT INFORMATION. SO, AND THEN YOU TOLD US THAT MR. DOMINGUEZ PREVENTED YOU FROM PUTTING A, A FENCE UP, WHICH FINDING EXTREMELY HARD TO BELIEVE. UM, SO I THINK FOR ME, I HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION I NEED. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, SIR. YOU MAY BE SEATED. YES, SIR. CHAIR WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THIS PROPERTY AT, UH, 74 38 KINGSTON. MR. CHAIRMAN? YES, SIR. UH, THIS IS, THIS IS, UH, GEORGE CRIMES. UH, I'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION. UH, CAN I EXPLAIN WHY I'M GONNA MAKE IT BEFORE I MAKE IT? DO I NEED TO MAKE IT FIRST? I WOULD ASK THAT YOU MAKE THE MOTION FIRST AND THEN EXPLAIN AFTERWARDS. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. GO AHEAD, PLEASE. UM, I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 74 38 KINGSTON, UH, IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE, UH, PER CITY CODE CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION SIX DASH 1 57, WHICH IS FEASIBLE TO BE REPAIRED AT THIS TIME AND IS IN VIOLATION OF CITY CODE CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE A SECTION 6.5156, UH, SECTIONS 1, 2, 5, 7, 8, 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18. I MOVE THE PROPERTY BE REPAIRED WITHIN 90 DAYS FROM THE ISSUANCE OF THIS ORDER, UH, THAT A TEMPORARY FENCE BE INSTALLED WITHIN 10 DAYS OF THIS ORDER. THE PROPERTY BE SECURED FREE OF TRASH AND DEBRIS. A THE MOTION IS TO REPAIR THE PROPERTY AT, UH, EXCUSE ME. UH, THE MOTION IS THAT THE PROPERTY, UH, AT 74 38 KINGSTON IS FEASIBLE BEING REPAIRED. AND YOU ORDER, UH, THAT THE REPAIR BE COMPLETED IN 90 DAYS, THAT OFFENSE BE INSTALLED WITHIN 10 DAYS, AND THE PROPERTY SECURED THAT THE PROPERTY BE CLEANED, UH, IMMEDIATELY. UH, SECOND, CORRECTLY STATED. AND WE HAVE A SECOND. MCKAYLA, UH, YOU SAID YOU WANTED TO DISCUSS THE REASONS FOR YOUR MOTION? UH, YES. UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, I, I SHARE EVERYBODY'S CONCERN AND FRUSTRATION ABOUT, UH, THE FACT THAT NOTHING HAS GONE ON SINCE OUR LAST HEARING. ON THE OTHER HAND, UM, COMPARED TO THE OTHER INSTANCES OF DILAPIDATED STRUCTURE THAT I'VE SEEN WHEN I'M ON THE BOARD, UH, THIS PROPERTY APPEARS TO BE REPAIRABLE. WE'VE, WE'VE SEEN SOME PROPERTIES THAT WERE SO, UH, DAMAGED THAT THEY WERE NOT ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE TO BE REPAIRED. THIS, THIS PROPERTY SEEMS TO ME TO BE FEASIBLE TO, UH, BE REPAIRED. IN ADDITION, MANY OF THE PROPERTIES WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST HAVE BEEN OCCUPIED BY VAGRANT. THEY'VE HAD, UH, CRIMES COMMITTED AT THE PROPERTY. UM, AND AS [01:00:01] FAR AS I CAN TELL THIS, THIS PROPERTY HAS HAD NOT, NOT HAD THOSE TYPES OF ISSUES. UH, IN ADDITION, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A, A HOUSING ISSUE IN SAN ANTONIO, AND I HATE TO SEE A PROPERTY THAT, UH, UH, IS REPAIRABLE. UH, IT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NO GUARANTEE IT WILL BE REPAIRED, BUT IT, BUT, UH, THERE IS A CHANCE AND I'M WILLING TO GIVE THIS PROPERTY OWNER THAT CHANCE TO REPAIR IT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? THIS IS THOMAS FRANKS. I AGREE WITH 50% OF WHAT WAS SAID. MY CONCERN IS THAT THIS PROPERTY HAS HAD MULTIPLE CHANCES. IF ALL OF THIS INFORMATION WOULD'VE BEEN BROUGHT TO MR. DOMINGUEZ AND GIVEN, I HIGHLY DOUBT MR. DOMINGUEZ WOULD'VE BROUGHT IT BACK TO THE BOARD. ALL RIGHT. UH, THE CITY IS HAVING TO TAKE CARE OF THE PROPERTY. THE CITY'S HAVING TO GO OUT THERE THREE, FOUR TIMES A MONTH, RIGHT? WE'RE WASTING TAXPAYER FUNDS TO BASICALLY CHASE AN INDIVIDUAL TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO. NOTHING THAT WE HAVE ASKED THE, THIS PROPERTY OWNER TO DO HAS BEEN DONE RIGHT. THIS IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF A SCHOOL, RIGHT? WE'VE NEVER HAD PROBLEMS WITH FENCES BEFORE UNTIL THIS ONE SPECIFIC RIGHT. SCHOOL STARTED, AND KIDS ARE KIDS. MY CONCERN IS SOMEONE GOING TO THAT PROPERTY AND GETTING HURT. THANK YOU. FURTHER DISCUSSION. WE'LL HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE. ON THE MOTION. EXCUSE ME. ONE, ONE MOMENT. GO AHEAD. I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. UM, ONE, IS IT POSSIBLE TO ADD A TIMELINE FOR PERMITS BEING PULLED? YES. THEN I WOULD MOVE TO ADD A TIMELINE THAT PERMITS ARE PULLED WITHIN 10 DAYS. ANY MOTION IS THAT THERE BE PERMITS PULLED IN 10 DAYS. GEORGE, WOULD YOU ACCEPT THE FRONT OF YOUR MOTION? UH, YES. UH, KAYLA? YES. THANK YOU. PERMITS, I HAVE, OH, GO AHEAD. PERMITS WOULD BE ADDED IN 10 DAYS TO THE MOTION. AND MY SECOND REQUEST IS THAT AS THE OWNER IS NOT A PRIMARY ENGLISH SPEAKER, EVEN THOUGH HE'S FUNCTIONING IN ENGLISH, AS SOMEONE WHO HAS FUNCTIONED IN MULTIPLE LANGUAGES, I WOULD REQUEST THAT ALL REQUESTS BE PRESENTED TO HIM IN WRITING IN SPANISH. I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GONNA BE ABLE TO HAPPEN. I, I DO WANNA MAKE SURE AND MAKE SURE THE RECORD SHOWS, UM, HE DECLINED ANY TYPE OF, UM, ASSISTANCE, TRANSLATION ASSISTANCE THIS MORNING, UM, THAT WOULD REQUIRE ME TO DRAFT ORDERS IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH. UM, I, I, YEAH, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M GONNA BE ABLE TO, EVERY PIECE OF DOCUMENTATION THAT WE WOULD HAVE WOULD BE THEN BE REQUIRED TO DO THAT. UM, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE IF HE JUST CONFIRMS UNDERSTANDING OF EACH ONE IN SPANISH? AS SOMEONE WHO HAS JUST STRUGGLED? YOU CAN SEEM LIKE YOU'RE UNDERSTANDING WITH MISSING THE DETAILS, AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT HE HAS FULL COMPREHENSION. MS. ROSEN, PLEASE ALLOW ME IF MR. MR. RIO, WOULD YOU PLEASE AND BOARD I THIS IS JENNY RAMIREZ, CODE CODE MANAGER. I ALSO WANNA STIPULATE WE DO HAVE LIVE TRANSLATORS ALWAYS AVAILABLE IN THE BUILDING ANYTIME ANYBODY COMES IN AND ASKS, NOT ONLY HERE AT THE BOARD HEARING, BUT IN THE BUILDING AT THE COUNTER AS WELL. SO THAT IS ALWAYS A STIPULATION WE HAVE AVAILABLE. CAN I ALSO HAVE, UM, SPANISH TRANSLATION UP THERE WITH HIM, PLEASE. MR. CARILLO, I HAVE JUST A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU, SIR. MR. CARILLO, YOU WERE, YOU WERE HERE. UM, AND MA'AM, IF YOU WOULD, IF YOU WOULD, UM, TRANSLATE IN SPANISH FOR ME. UM, YOU WERE HERE ON MARCH 14TH, 2024. DO YOU RECALL THAT DAY, SIR? YES. MR. CILLO, AT THAT TIME, YOU, YOU DID HAVE AND WERE, UH, PROVIDED, UM, UH, A SPANISH, UH, TRANSLATOR TO ASSIST IN ANY TYPE OF TRANSLATION, IS THAT CORRECT? INTERPRET? YES. THANK YOU. UM, YOU ALSO RECEIVED THE, UH, BSB REPAIR ORDER FROM MARCH 14TH, 2024 IN ENGLISH. WERE YOU ABLE TO READ, COMPREHEND, AND UNDERSTAND, UM, EVERYTHING ON THAT BOARD ORDER? [01:05:10] YES, I DID. THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THAT. AND THEN TODAY, UM, ON MARCH 12TH, 2024, UM, THERE WAS A SPANISH INTERPRETER PROVIDED FOR YOU, ISN'T THAT CORRECT? I'M SORRY? SEPTEMBER. SEPTEMBER, UH, SEPTEMBER 12TH, 2024. THERE WAS A, A, A, A TRANSLATOR, UH, THAT WAS GONNA PROVIDE ENGLISH TO SPANISH TRANSLATION FOR YOU. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. AND SIR, IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU DECLINED TO HAVE THAT TRANSLATION, UM, PROVIDED TO YOU TODAY, IS THAT CORRECT? NO. NO, NO, NO, NO. I DID NOT DECLINE. AND GIMME A MOMENT. I'M GOING TO SAY IT IN SPANISH FIRST. EXCUSE ME. COULD I INTERJECT, PLEASE? YES, MA'AM. UM, I UNDERSTAND I OFFERED THE GENTLEMAN THE, UH, TRANSLATION SERVICES THROUGH THE, UM, EQUIPMENT WE HAVE, AND HE SAID HE UNDERSTOOD THAT HE DIDN'T WANT IT, SO THAT'S WHAT HE DECLINED. BUT HE ASKED ME TO STAND NEXT TO HIM IN CASE HE WANTED TO, UH, SPEAK IN ENGLISH, BUT IN CASE HE HAD A PROBLEM, GOT STUCK THAT I WOULD BE HERE JUST IN CASE. THAT'S WHAT, WHAT WAS ESTABLISHED, MR. CARILLO, IS THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? WITH WHAT SHE, WHAT SHE JUST STATED? THAT'S CORRECT, YES. LEMME GET YOU IN THE MICROPHONE RECORD. GO AHEAD. YES, THAT'S CORRECT. SO MOVING FORWARD, MR. CARILLO, DO YOU NEED SPANISH, UM, TRANSLATION, OR ARE YOU, DO YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE, UM, WITH THE, UH, THE SERVICES THAT, UH, YOU PUT ON STANDBY TODAY? AND WERE YOU ABLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS HAPPENING TODAY AT THE HEARING INTO THE MICROPHONE? I MEAN, I READ FULL ENGLISH. UH, I KNOW MY, MY, I IS NOT THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S PRO IT'S PRETTY STRONG, BUT I DO UNDERSTAND FULL ENGLISH AND SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, WHEN I'M SPEAKING, UH, YOU KNOW, I COULD HAVE TROUBLE HERE AND THERE, YOU KNOW, BUT I DO SPEAK ENGLISH, UH, LIKE 90%, YOU KNOW, , MR. CARILLO, I, I UNDERSTAND AND I THANK YOU FOR THAT. BUT I, WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS, IS MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE COMPLIED AND MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THE, THE HEARING THAT WE HAD TODAY IS SOMETHING THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND AND CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH. IF THERE WAS ANY DIFFICULTY, UM, UH, AT ALL, WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE. SO I, I DO WANNA MAKE SURE WE DID, YOU, WERE YOU ABLE TO UNDERSTAND AND COMPREHEND WHAT HAPPENED, THE PROCEEDINGS TODAY IN THE HEARING IN REGARDS TO 74 38 KINGSTON? YES. UNDERSTOOD. AND IT, ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH RECEIVING A BOARD ORDER? UM, NOT ONLY DID YOU HEAR IT ORALLY, BUT WRITTEN IN ENGLISH, DOES, DOES HER TRANSLATION NEED TO BE ON RECORD? YES, MA'AM. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE REPEAT IT AGAIN. YOU, UH, YES. THAT SHOULDN'T BE OUR PROBLEM. THANK YOU, SIR. I APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU. [01:10:02] THANK YOU. YOU MAY BE SEATED AGAIN, PLEASE. THANK YOU. AS A REMINDER, THE MOTION OF THE FLOOR IS THAT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 74 38 KINGSTON. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS THAT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 74 38 KINGSTON IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE PER CITY CODE CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION SIX DASH 1 57 AND IS FEASIBLE, BUT BEING REPAIRED, UH, ACCORDING TO, UH, CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION 6 1 56, SUB CODES 1, 2, 5, 7, 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18. UH, LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE. ON THE MOTION. DUANE NELSON. NO. FRED ANDES? NO. JOEL SOLIS? NO. KAYLA MIRANDA? YES. THOMAS FRANKS? NO. GEORGE GRIMES JR. YES. COURTNEY ROSEN? YES. MOTION FAILS. THREE TO FOUR. SAY THAT AGAIN. MOTION FAIL. MOTION FELL THREE TO FOUR. UH, WHO WERE THE, THE YES VOTES? THEY WERE, UH, KAYLA MIRANDA, GEORGE GRIMES JR. AND COURTNEY ROSEN BOARD. IS THAT ALL CORRECT? YEAH. YES. OKAY. VERY GOOD. I THOUGHT I HEARD, UH, DIFFERENTLY. UH, THE MOTION FAILS CHAIR WOULD ENTERTAIN ANOTHER MOTION. MR. CHAIR, THIS IS THOMAS FRANKS. I HAVE A MOTION. MS. FRANKS, I MOVE THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 70 74 38. KINGSTON IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE PER CITY CODE CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION SIX DASH 1 57, WHICH IS NOT FEASIBLE TO BE REPAIRED AT THIS TIME AND IS IN VIOLATION OF CITY CODE CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION SIX DASH 15 SIX, SUBSECTION 1, 2, 5, 7, 8, 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18. I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY LOCATED, WHOOP, SORRY, I MOVE THAT, UH, THE PROPERTY IS, UH, DEMOLISHED WITHIN 30 DAYS FROM THE ISSUANCE OF THIS ORDER. UH, I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS FENCED OFF AS WELL. AND THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS THAT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 74 38 KINGSTON, UH, IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE PER CITY CODE CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION SIX DASH 1 57. AND IT IS NOT FEASIBLE BEING REPAIRED AT THIS TIME AND IS IN VIOLATION OF CODES 1, 2, 5, 7, 8, 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18. DO I HAVE A SECOND, MR. CHAIR? I SECOND, BUT I ALSO HAVE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. WE PROCEED WITH YOUR FRIENDLY AMENDMENT IF IT FAILS TO BE WITHIN THE 30 DAYS THAT IT GOES TO THE EXPEDITED LIST. MR. FRANKS, DO YOU ACCEPT THE EXPEDITED LIST IF IT IS NOT COMPLETED IN 30 DAYS? YES, SIR. THANK YOU. DO I HAVE A SECOND ON THE MOTION? OH, I SECOND MY OWN MOTION. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL ON, UH, LEMME REPEAT THE MOTION ONE MORE TIME JUST TO MAKE SURE I MOVE. THE, THE MOTION IS THAT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 74 38 KINGSTON IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE FOR CITY CODE CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT SECTIONS SIX DASH 15 SEVEN, WHICH IS NOT FEASIBLE, BUT BEING REPAIRED AT THIS TIME. AND IT'S IN VIOLATION OF SUB CODE, UH, EXCUSE ME, VIOLATION OF ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION SIX DASH 1 56, SUB CODES 1, 2, 5 7 8, 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18, THAT THE STRUCTURE SHOULD BE DEMOLISHED IN 30 DAYS AND HIT THE EXPEDITED LIST IF CANNOT BE COMPLETED IN 30 DAYS. UH, THAT A FENCE BE, UH, INSTALLED FOR SECURITY BECAUSE OF THE SCHOOL. ANY DISCUSSION? NO DISCUSSION. LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE. DWAYNE NELSON. AYE. BRETT ANDES. AYE. JOEL SOLIS. AYE. KAYLA MIRANDA? NO. THOMAS FRANKS. AYE. GEORGE GRIMES JR. NO. COURTNEY ROSEN, NO. MOTION PASSES WITH A VOTE OF FOUR TO THREE. THANK YOU. THE MOTION PASSES AT FOUR TO THREE, WE WILL MOVE TO OUR NEXT PROPERTY. WE ARE GOING TO REVIEW 1340, EXCUSE ME, 13 400 WHITMORE ROAD. [01:15:09] GOOD MORNING. I'M JOHN KELLY, SUPERVISOR WITH THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. GOOD MORNING FIELD SERVICES DEPARTMENT. I'M SORRY. GOOD MORNING, . I WAS JUST HEADING OUT THERE, UH, FOR THE NORTH COAST SECTOR, THE PROPERTY I BRING BEFORE YOU IS 13 400 WETMORE ROAD. THIS PROPERTY HAS NO ID NUMBER. UH, WE DID CHECK WITH BEXAR COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT AND WE CHECKED WITH OUR LAND SERVICES DIVISION AND THERE'S NO CAN NUMBER, THERE'S NO, UH, NO ID NUMBER FOR THIS PROPERTY, BUT THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS BEING OWNED BY THE UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD. UH, AND THEIR ADDRESS IS 1400 DOUGLAS STREET, OMAHA, NEBRASKA, 6 8 1 7 9. THE VIOLATION IS FOR THE PROPERTY IS FOR SAN ANTONIO. PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE SECTION 3 0 2 0.7 0.1, UH, FENCES, ALL FENCES FACING THE STREET FRONT OF THE PREMISE OR ADJACENT TO PUBLIC WAY. AND THOSE FENCES THAT ARE REQUIRED BY FEDERAL, STATE, OR LOCAL ORDINANCE SHALL BE MAINTAINED STRUCTURALLY SOUND AND IN GOOD REPAIR. UH, ON THIS ONE HERE, IT'S ALONG WETMORE ROAD. UM, OUR INITIAL INSPECTION WAS DONE ON, UH, MAY 6TH, 2024. UH, IF WE GO TO ANOTHER PHOTO HERE. YEAH. AND THIS IS WHAT OUR OFFICER FOUND. IT'S RIGHT ALONG THE ROAD, RIGHT ALONG THE SIDEWALK. YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE FENCE IS PULLING AWAY FROM THE, UH, SUPPORT BEAMS. UM, THERE'S ALSO MISSING, UH, FENCE, UH, ALONG THIS AREA. WE HAVE CONTACTED, WE'VE HAD CONTACT WITH UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD. THEY DID GIVE US A LEASE, UH, FOR THAT PROPERTY. GOT A HOLD OF THE LEASE. THE LEASE SAYS THEY HAVEN'T LEASED THAT PROPERTY IN OVER FIVE YEARS. SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE NOBODY TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS PROPERTY. I DO HAVE A MAP IF WE GO TO THE, I THINK THE MAP'S ON THERE. YEAH. DOWN THERE. YEAH. OKAY. LET'S SEE HERE. THAT'S ACTUALLY WHERE IT IS. THE RAILROAD GOES RIGHT ALONG THERE WHERE IT SAYS UNION PACIFIC AND YOU SEE WETMORE AND THAT AREA THAT'S CIRCLED RIGHT THERE IS WHERE THE PROPERTY IS. NO BUILDINGS SHOW UP ON. THIS IS A BCA RIGHT HERE. UM, THERE ARE BUILDINGS ON THAT PROPERTY. UH, THERE'S ALSO BRICK, UH, BEING STORED THERE. AND, UH, LIKE I SAID, WE CAN'T GET ANY KIND OF, UH, A RESPONSE AT ALL. SO WE DID OUR LAST INSPECTION HERE ON SEPTEMBER 9TH, AND IT DOES REMAIN THE SAME VIOLATION, SAME SAME CONDITION. THAT'S, UH, I GUESS A BETTER VIEW OF IT. YOU SEE, UH, THE BUILDING'S THERE AND EVERYTHING, THAT'S THE PROPERTY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND REALLY WHAT WE'RE, UH, REQUESTING IS THE PROPERTY OWNER BE ORDERED TO REPAIR THAT FENCE BEFORE SOMEBODY DOES GET HURT. UM, AND, UH, BRING IT UP TO THE MINIMUM STANDARDS OF SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE. COUNSEL QUESTION. WE HAVE NOT IDENTIFIED THE ACTUAL PROPERTY OWNER. WHO DO WE ISSUE THE ORDER TO? WE, I'M SORRY, I'M I KNOW YOU'RE ASKING HIM. I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD, . NO, PLEASE. OH, I WAS GONNA SAY, IF YOU LOOK AT OUR TITLE SEARCH, WE DID SEND IT OUT TO LIKE 30 DIFFERENT PEOPLE. UM, ONE OF 'EM DID RESPOND, SO THEY HAVE NO LONGER HAVE ANY KIND OF, UH, INTEREST IN THAT PROPERTY. SO WE HAVE NOTIFIED THE RAILROAD, WE'VE NOTIFIED EVERYBODY. THE RAILROAD, WHEN I DID TALK TO 'EM, DID SAY THAT'S PART OF THEIR PART PROPERTY, THAT THEY ARE LEASING IT OUT. SO THE UNION PACIFIC HAS ALSO SAID THAT THEY ARE THE PROPERTY OWNERS. OH, UNION PACIFIC IS THE PROPERTY OWNER, NOT THE LEASEE? NO, NO. UNION PACIFIC IS A PROPERTY OWNER. THEY LEASED IT OUT TO ANOTHER COMPANY. I'M SORRY, I MISUNDERSTOOD THAT. YEAH, I'M SORRY. OKAY. SO WE DO HAVE SOMEONE THAT WE CAN ASK YOU ISSUE A LETTER TO. YES, SIR. YES, MR. CHAIR. IT, IT SOUNDS LIKE, UH, THE OWNERS LEASE IT OUT TO SOMEBODY THEY CAN'T GET AHOLD OR ARE, ARE UNABLE TO FIND OUT WHO THAT OTHER SOMEBODY IS. SO, UM, UM, THEY, THEY WOULD FILE AGAINST THE, THE PROPERTY I KNOW, WHICH WOULD BE UNION PACIFIC THEN RECEIVES THE LETTER AND WOULD TAKE WHATEVER ACTION THE BOARD ORDERS. OKAY. I APOLOGIZE. CONTINUE WITH NO, THAT'S OKAY. WE'VE HAD, WE'VE HAD EMAIL CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM TOO, AND THEY, THEY, UH, THEY JUST SAY THERE'S A LEASE AND THAT'S ALL THEY SAY. I APOLOGIZE FOR MY CONFUSION. NO, NO, SIR. YOUR TESTIMONY. MM-HMM. ARE, THEY WE'RE JUST REQUESTING THAT THE, UH, UNION PACIFIC BE HELD RESPONSIBLE TO MAINTAIN THAT PROPERTY AND, UH, REPAIR THAT FENCE. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? YEAH. UM, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU JUST RECENTLY CAME ONTO THIS PROPERTY, BUT I KNOW IT'S, IT'S BEEN KIND OF IN THIS CONDITION FOR A, A VERY LONG TIME. YES. OH, YES, IT HAS. I'VE BEEN A KID IN HIGH SCHOOL, SO WE'RE GOING WAY, WAY BACK HERE ON THIS PROPERTY. YEAH, AND YOU'RE RIGHT, THE RAILROAD BACKS RIGHT UP TO [01:20:01] IT. MM-HMM. . I'VE ACTUALLY WALKED IN THAT AREA AND I HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO WALK ON THAT SIDEWALK. EVER. YES, YES. MY CONCERN IS ON CODE IS, IS THIS BUILDING ACTUALLY IN CODE COMPLIANCE? IT'D BE SO CLOSE TO THE ROAD AS IT IS RIGHT NOW. I DO HAVE MY S PREMISE OFFICER DOING AN INVESTIGATION OF IT RIGHT NOW, SO IT MAY COME BACK TO THIS BOARD FOR OTHER ACTION. RIGHT NOW, MY MY MAJOR CONCERN IS JUST THE FENCE. RIGHT NOW, WE DO HAVE A, UH, WORK ORDER IN TO CUT AND CLEAN ALL ALONG THAT FENCE LINE TO AT LEAST OPEN UP THAT SIDEWALK A LITTLE BIT. UM, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE'RE NOW, AS SOON AS MY DANGEROUS PREMISE OFFICER DOES A LITTLE BIT MORE RESEARCH ON IT, AND, UH, HE'S GONNA PULL A WARRANT TO GO BACK IN THERE. WE'RE JUST HAVING, I'M TALKING WITH LEGAL RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT IS FEDERAL PROPERTY, UM, ABOUT THE WARRANT GOING ON THERE. UM, IT'S RAILROAD PROPERTY. SO IT'S RAILROAD, IT'S NOT FEDERAL PROPERTY. IT'S A PRIVATE COMPANY. WELL, I'M SORRY. IT'S, IT'S, UH, YEAH, THEY'RE INTERSTATES. YES. OKAY. I'M SORRY. LET ME ASK YOU THIS. MM-HMM. , ALL THOSE BUILDINGS THAT ARE IN THERE. MM-HMM. WAS THE PERSON LEASING ALL OF THEM? YES, SIR. IT'S ALL, IT'S ALL FULL OF BRICK. YEAH. SO IT'S ONE PERSON, NOT A BUNCH OF, NO. BUT THEN IF WE RE UH, YOU'RE GOING OUT THERE TO A BAIT, AS YOU SAID, TO CLEAN. YES. YES. COULD IT ALSO BE AT THE TIME THAT YOU'RE OUT THERE TO MAYBE PATCH THAT FENCE LIKE WE DO HOUSES AND STUFF? IS THAT PERMISSIBLE OR NO? I I I IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE WANTING TO KNOW SCHEDULING. I, I, NO, NO. WHAT I'M SAYING IS TO ABATE, LIKE NORMALLY WHEN THEY GO OUT TO A BETA HOUSE, THEY BOARD IT UP. THEY'RE ALREADY GONNA ABATE THE FOLDED. CAN THEY JUST PATCH THAT FENCE FOR RIGHT NOW FOR SECURITY PURPOSES? OR IS THAT NOT WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S WHY THE BOARD, IT'S IN FRONT OF THE BOARD. UM, UH, WHAT THEY'RE WANTING TO DO IS GET A BOARD ORDER SO THEY CAN EXECUTE WHATEVER YOU WERE THINKING. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. SO IT CAN BE DONE TO A FENCE TO ABATE THE FENCE AS WELL AS LIKE YOU DO A HOUSE TO SECURE. WELL, I, UNTIL THEY REPAIR, I, I DO WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR. IT'S BEING BROUGHT IN FRONT OF THIS BOARD TODAY TO ADDRESS AND, AND ABATE THE FENCE IF THIS BOARD BELIEVES THE FENCE NEEDS TO BE ABATED. ALL RIGHT, I GOT YOU. NOW, AND, AND YOU'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THEM FOR HOW LONG? THE RAILROAD SINCE, UH, I THINK MY, UH, EMAIL WAS FIRST, LET ME FIND IT HERE. I'M SORRY. UH, I GOT THE CALL FROM MR. OEN WHO WAS THE LEASE ON THE 31ST OF MAY. AND, UH, IT WAS PRIOR TO THAT I SENT THE EMAILS OUT. LET ME SEE HERE. I'M SORRY. IN ALL OF THE COMMUNICATIONS MM-HMM. , DID THEY, IN THE UNION, DID THEY INDICATE THAT THEY WERE GOING TO COME OUT AND DO ANYTHING? NO, SIR. ARE THEY SAYING THEY'RE KIND OF RELYING ON THE, SO-CALLED TENTING TO DO? YES, SIR. THEY TOLD ME THAT THE LEASE WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT. OKAY. FOR THAT FENCE. YEAH. WHEN I TALKED TO THE UNION PACIFIC, YES. THEY SAID THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA REPAIR IT, THAT IT'S THE LEASEE'S PROBLEM TO REPAIR. OKAY. WELL, THEY MAY HAVE TO NOW. MM-HMM. . ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COURTNEY. UM, DID ANYONE REQUEST OR PROVIDE DOCUMENTATION OF THE LEASE TERMS AND TERMINATION? NO. NO MA'AM. DID ANYONE PROVIDE REQUEST OR PROVIDE DOCUMENTATION THAT RENT IS CURRENTLY BEING PAID? NO, MA'AM. I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T REQUEST THAT. SECOND ANGEL, I WANTED TO FINISH QUESTION. CAN I STILL CONTINUE? I'M SORRY GUYS. I NEED YOUR MICROPHONES ON IN REGARDS TO CONVERSATION. YEAH, I'M JUST ASKING FOR PERMISSION TO, TO SPEAK YOU. JOEL, GO AHEAD WITH YOUR QUESTION. THANK YOU. SO BY THE LOOKS OF IT, YOU HAVEN'T BEEN ACTUALLY IN, IN THE PROPERTY, GONE INSIDE THE FENCE AND, AND LOOKED AROUND. I'VE, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S A DANGEROUS PREMISE. I'M SORRY, SIR. I, I'VE LOOKED THROUGH THE FENCE BECAUSE THERE'S A HUGE HOLE IN IT. AND IF YOU SEE ON SOME OF OUR PHOTOS, I'M SORRY, UH, YOU COULD SEE WHERE THE BRICK IS, UH, IS FALLING LIKE HERE, THIS IS WHERE WE'VE LOOKED THROUGH THE FENCE. UM, WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY GONE ONTO THAT PROPERTY YET, BUT YOU CAN GO TO ONE SIDE OF IT AND LOOK THROUGH THE, LOOK THROUGH THE GATE AND SEE ALMOST THE ENTIRE PROPERTY. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR. AND THAT'S, UH, WHY I HAVE MY DANGEROUS PREMISE OFFICERS STARTING THE CASE ON THAT TO GO FOR. UM, SOME OF THOSE BUILDINGS AREN'T IN IN GOOD SHAPE. SO WHAT WAS THAT AGAIN? SOME OF THE BUILDINGS ARE NOT IN GOOD SHAPE. THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING. SO YEAH, WE'RE GONNA GET A WARRANT. WE HAVE TO GET A WARRANT TO GO ONTO THE PROPERTY TO DO THE, UH, THE INITIAL INSPECTION ON THAT. KAYLA . UM, I, I, I WANNA GO BACK TO, UH, YOU HAD SAID THAT THE BUILDINGS ARE NOT EVEN SHOWING UP ON BCAT, AND I DID MY OWN SEARCH AND THE ADDRESS IS NOT COMING UP. MM-HMM. , ARE THOSE BUILDINGS EVEN SUPPOSED TO BE THERE? THE BUILDINGS? YEAH. WELL, I, I WOULDN'T KNOW. THAT'S, UH, . I'M [01:25:01] SORRY. IT, IT JUST DOESN'T SHOW UP ON ANY KIND OF, UH, A MAPPING SYSTEM. WE HAVE, UH, IT DOESN'T HAVE AN ADDRESS. IT'S JUST PART OF THE RAILROAD PROPERTY. AND, UM, AS FOR THOSE BUILDINGS, THEY'VE BEEN THERE. WELL, I THINK SINCE YOU WERE IN HIGH SCHOOL, YOU SAID? YEAH. SO THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME FIVE YEARS AGO THOUGH, , BUT YES. UH, SO THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME. I'M NOT POSITIVE. UM, IF THEY EVER HAD A PERMIT TO BUILD THEM THERE, UH, THEY'VE JUST BEEN THERE FOR SUCH A LONG TIME. WELL, IT'S RAILROAD PROPERTY, YOU CAN'T TOUCH IT. THAT'S THE RAILROAD. IT'S HARD TO TOUCH THE RAILROAD. THEY BUILT THE BUILDINGS THERE A LONG TIME AGO. THEY DON'T NEED PERMITS TO PUT UP BUILDINGS ON THE RAILROAD. OKAY. ALRIGHT, FRED, THAT'S WHY THEY DON'T SHOW UP ON B. ARE ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT REPLY? EVEN NOT, THAT'S WHY THEY DON'T SHOW UP. NOT REALLY. THAT'S WHY THEY DON'T SHOW UP ON BCAP WHEN THE RAILROAD WENT IN. THEY ARE ALLOWED X AMOUNT OF PROPERTY BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO BUILD WHATEVER THEY NEED FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE, AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID. BUT THEY'RE NOT GONNA SHOW UP ON BCAP FOR ME TO ASK YOU. THAT'S NOT WHAT I WAS ASKING. BUT FOR ME TO ASK YOUR ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MA'AM. I DON'T KNOW. UM, THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME AND LIKE I SAID, THEY DON'T SHOW UP ON ANY KIND OF THE, THE MAPPING SYSTEMS. OKAY. AND CONTRARY TO JOEL'S ACCEPTANCE OF FIVE YEARS, THAT WAS A JOKE. YEAH. OR SHOULD BE DISREGARDED BY EVERYONE. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU CHAIRMAN. ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MS. CHAIRMAN, THIS IS THOMAS FRANKS. MS. FRANKS, I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 13 400 WESTMORE ROAD IS IN VIOLATION OF SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE SECTIONS 3 0 2 0.71, AND ALSO FIND THE PROPERTY REMAINS IN VIOLATION. THE PROPERTY, UH, IS TWO HMM. REPAIR THE FENCES THAT ARE DAMAGED TO, UH, MAKE ANY REPAIRS TO THE EASEMENTS THAT THEIR VEGETATION IS BLOCKING WITHIN 30 DAYS TO THE SATISFACTION OF THE CODE OFFICER, MR. CHAIR, THIS IS LEGAL. YES, SIR. UH, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT ANY, UM, EASEMENTS ONLY BECAUSE THERE WAS NO NOTICE PROVIDED. UM, THE ONLY ISSUE IN FRONT OF THIS BOARD TODAY IS, IS DEFENSES MR. MR. FRANKS I'LL RETRACT THE EASEMENTS THEY NEED TO REPAIR THE FENCES, REPAIR THE FENCE IN 30 DAYS TO THE SATISFACTION OF THE CODE OFFICER, SATISFACTION CODE OFFICER. THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS THAT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 13 400, UH, WETMORE ROAD IS IN VIOLATION OF SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE SECTION 3 0 2 0.71, UH, AND IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE, AND THE FENCE IS TO BE REPAIRED IN 30 DAYS TO THE SATISFACTION OF THE CODE. OFFICER SECOND, AND I HAVE A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? YES, JOEL, UH, IN REGARD TO THE, UH, PULLING THE, UH, THE ABILITY TO GO IN AND, AND SEARCH THE PROPERTY TO, UH, MAKE SURE THAT THOSE BUILDINGS AREN'T, UH, UH, ACTUALLY DANGEROUS STRUCTURES. WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THAT REGARD? WILL YOU STILL CONTINUE TO PURSUE THAT AND BRING THAT BACK TO THIS? YES, SIR. COMMITTEE. WHAT, MR. CHAIR, I'M, I'M GONNA HAVE TO STOP US REAL QUICK. WE, WE ARE GONNA NEED TO FINISH WITH THIS ORDER, AND THEN ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS THAT HE MIGHT HAVE ON SOMETHING THAT MIGHT COME UP AT A LATER TIME, HE, HE COULD DEFINITELY ASK. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE FOLLOW UP AND FINISH ON THE ORDER. THEN I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT THAT, THAT THE PROPERTY BE LOOKED AT AS A POSSIBLE, UH, DANGEROUS STRUCTURE COUNSEL. ACCEPTABLE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. I, OKAY, SO I WANNA MAKE SURE WE DID SECOND THE, THE ORDER IT WAS, AND NOW WE'RE DOING CONVER CONVERSATION ABOUT IT, DISCUSSION. SURE. THAT WAS AN ACCEPTABLE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. DO YOU ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT TO BE CONSIDERED FOR DANGER STRUCTURE? YEP. UH, SECOND. NO, BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING THE WARRANTS TO GO IN THERE. IS THAT MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT YOU SAID? SO THEY'RE ALREADY IN THE PROCESS OF CHECKING THAT OUT. BUT THE MOTION, I MEAN THE, I I, NO, I DON'T EXPECT THE LETTER, THE LETTER WOULD REQUIRE IT. HOWEVER, I, I I DO WANNA MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND THAT IF THIS BOARD DOES DECIDE TO SEND IT BACK AS A [01:30:01] DANGEROUS PREMISE. YEAH. UM, THE ORDER IN REGARDS TO THE FENCE IS NOT GOING TO BE ADDRESSED. IT WAS NOT A, IT WAS NOT TO SEND IT BACK AS A DANGEROUS STRUCTURE. IT WAS ADD TO THE MOTION THAT IF THEN IF, UH, OR NOT IF THEN IT WAS AN AND AND, UH, CONSIDERATION FOR A DANGEROUS STRUCTURE. RIGHT. IN ESSENCE, YOU'RE SAYING LET'S SEND IT BACK TO BE YES. HIS MOTION WAS NOT, HIS INTENTION WAS NOT TO SEND IT BACK, WAS IT? NO, NO. HIS INTENTION WAS TO ADD IT TO THE MOTION THAT THE FENCE BE REPAIRED AND THAT CODE CONSIDERATE FOR A DANGEROUS STRUCTURE. RIGHT. I I WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR. DO YOU JUST WANT CODE IN THEIR OWN MIND TO CONSIDER IT OR ARE YOU WANTING CODE TO TAKE ACTION IN REGARDS TO SPECIFIC DETERMINING IF IT IS CONSIDERED A DANGEROUS STRUCTURE SPECIFIC ACTION? I'M SPEAKING FOR YOU. GO AHEAD. SPECIFIC ACTION MEANS WE ARE NOT FOLLOWING UP ON THIS S-A-P-M-C ORDER. WE ARE NOW WANTING THE BOARD'S WANTING THIS PROPERTY TO BE VIEWED AND INSPECTED AS A DP A DANGEROUS PREMISE. LEMME AHEAD AND WITHDRAW MY AMENDMENT WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IT IS GOING TO PROCEED FORWARD WITH A LOOK AT WHETHER OR NOT IT IS A DANGER. YEAH, I'LL, I'LL JUST MAKE A REAL QUICK CLARIFICATION. WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THIS PROPERTY RIGHT NOW, THE FENCE IS OUR IMMEDIATE ISSUE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT IS, WE DO HAVE A DANGEROUS PREMISE OFFICER CHECKING IT OUT FOR A, UH, ADDITIONAL CASE, A DIFFERENT CASE THAN THIS ONE. AND WE ALSO HAVE A CLEANUP ORDER, DIFFERENT CASE. SO WE HAVE THREE SEPARATE CASES GOING ON RIGHT NOW ON THIS PROPERTY, BUT THIS IS OUR IMMEDIATE, UH, CONCERN RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OFFENSES, UH, LOOKS DANGEROUS TO US, UH, THAT IT MIGHT FALL, WE WANT TO GET THAT ABATED RIGHT AWAY. SO THEREFORE, THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT THAT TO THE BOARD. EXCUSE ME. THANK YOU. THEREFORE, THE BOARD IS CONSIDERING THE ISSUE OF A FENCE AND OFFENSE ONLY NOT TO BE CONSIDERED ON ANY OTHER ISSUES. SO LET ME REPEAT THE MOTION. THE MOTION IS THAT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 13,400 WHITMORE ROAD IS IN VIOLATION OF SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE 3 0 7 0.1, EXCUSE ME. 3 0 2 0.7 0.1, UH, AND IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE, UH, AND THAT THE PROPERTY, UH, REMAINS IN VIOLATION. THE PROPERTY IS TO BE FENCED, UH, WITHIN 30 DAYS TO THE SATISFACTION OF THE CODE OFFICER. AND THAT MOTION HAS BEEN SECONDED. NO OTHER FRIENDLY AMENDMENTS THERE. ARE WE CLEAR ON THE MOTION? YES, WE'RE CLEAR ON THE MOTION. UH, WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL JUST TO MAKE SURE. DUANE NELSON. AYE. FRED ANDES. AYE. JOEL SOLIS. AYE. KAYLA MIRANDA. AYE. THOMAS FRANKS AYE. GEORGE GRIMES JR. AYE. COURTNEY ROSEN. AYE. MOTION PASSES WITH THE VOTE OF SEVEN TO ZERO MOTION PASSES AND OUR FINAL PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE 1 0 9 SAN JUAN ROAD. GOOD MORNING BOARD. GOOD MORNING FOR THE RECORD. MY NAME IS SERGIO QUINTANILLA, DANGEROUS PREMISES OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT. THE STRUCTURE BEING PRESENTED TODAY IS LOCATED AT 1 0 9 SAN JUAN ROAD, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 2 3 WITH THE RECOMMENDATION FOR DEMOLITION IN ACCORDANCE WITH CITY CODE ARTICLE EIGHT. CHAPTER SIX. THIS CASE IS A RESET FROM A HEARING THAT TOOK PLACE ON JUNE 13TH, 2024. THE BOARD ORDERED A 60 DAY RESET. TIME WAS GIVEN, UH, TO THE DECEASED OWNER'S SON, RICHARD AL AL, TO CHANGE THE DEED TO RECEIVE, UH, OWNERSHIP AND QUALIFY FOR ASSISTANCE FROM NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICES DEPARTMENT. THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION IS NCB 1 0 8 83 BLOCK ONE, LOT 23 LOCATED IN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT THREE. THE OWNER ON RECORD IS VIAL RAUL, WITH THE MAILING ADDRESS OF 1 0 5 SAN JUAN ROAD. ALL NOTICE OF HEARINGS WERE PROPERLY ISSUED AS REQUIRED. THE FOLLOWING INDIVIDUALS ARE PRESENT ON BEHALF OF THE CASE. RICHARD VIAL CONTACT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED WITH THE DECEASED OWNER'S SON, RICHARD LL THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION HAS CONFIRMED ON AUGUST 8TH, 2022. THE PROPERTY IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR HISTORIC DESIGNATION. [01:35:03] THE FOLLOWING IS A TIMELINE OF EVENTS REGARDING NOTIFICATION PROCESS. THE FIRST INSPECTION REGARDING 1 0 9 SAN JUAN ROAD WAS CONDUCTED ON JUNE 20TH, 2022. ORIGINAL NOTICE WAS MAILED ON JULY 15TH, 2022 AND THE CERTIFIED RECEIPT WAS RETURNED, CLAIMED ON AUGUST 3RD, 2022 ON JUNE 14TH, 2024. BSB ORDER. A 60 DAY RESET TIME WAS GIVEN TO DECEASED OWNER'S SON, RICHARD AL, TO CHANGE DEED TO RECEIVE OWNERSHIP AND QUALIFIED FOR ASSISTANCE FROM NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICES DEPARTMENT ON AUGUST 27TH, 2024. THE NOTICE FOR THE BSB HEARING WAS MAILED TO OWNER AND THE CERTIFIED RECEIPT HAS NOT BEEN RETURNED AS OF SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2024. ON AUGUST 28TH, 2024, THE NOTICE OF THE BSB HEARING WAS POSTED AT 1 0 9 SAN JUAN ROAD. NO SCOPE OF WORK OR FINANCIAL PROOF OR LETTER OF CREDIT OR ENGINEER'S REPORT HAS BEEN PROVIDED AS OF SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2024. THERE ARE NO, NO PERMITS ON FILE FOR 1 0 9 SAN JUAN ROAD. THE PHOTOS THAT ARE BEING PROVIDED FOR TODAY'S PRESENTATION WERE TAKEN ON SEPTEMBER 6TH, 2024. PICTURE PRESENTATION CONSISTS OF A DILAPIDATED AND NEGLECTED STRUCTURE. AT THIS TIME, WE WILL REVIEW THE PHOTOS. THE FIRST PHOTO IS OF THE FRONT ELEVATION, SHOWING A SINGLE STORY RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE BUILT IN 1940 WITH POST BEAM FOUNDATION WOOD SIDING AND METAL GABLE ROOF AND ATTACHED CARPORT COVER. THE STRUCTURE IS 1,424 SQUARE FEET AND HAS TWO BEDROOMS AND ONE BATH. FROM THIS PHOTO, YOU CAN SEE THE SIDING LACKS WEATHER PROTECTION. THE OVERHANG IS ROTTING AND THE METAL ROOF IS WORN. THE FRONT RIGHT SIDE OF THE STRUCTURE IS ALSO SITTING ON GRADE, WHICH I WILL SHOW ON THE NEXT PHOTO. THIS IS, UH, ACTUALLY A CLOSER LOOK AT THE FRONT RIGHT SIDE OF THE STRUCTURE THAT'S COMPROMISED. AND THEN THE NEXT PHOTO IS THE, UH, IS FROM BEHIND THAT SAME SECTION OF WALL. HERE YOU CAN SEE THE BEAM SITTING ON GRADE. THE POSTS HAVE SUNK AND THE MEME IS NO LONGER SUPPORTED. THE FOLLOWING PHOTO IS OF THE RIGHT ELEVATION. HERE YOU CAN SEE THE LACK OF WEATHER PROTECTION, THE DETERIORATED OVERHANG AND WARPED AND WORN METAL ROOF OVER THE CARPORT. THE NEXT PHOTO IS UNDER THE CARPORT. UH, THE DOOR IN THIS PHOTO IS WHERE I MAKE ENTRY INTO THE STRUCTURE. UH, HERE YOU CAN SEE BURGLAR BARS ON THE WINDOW AND MORE ACCUMULATION OF RUBBISH FROM THE LAST TIME. FROM THERE WE GO TO THE NEXT PHOTO SHOWING THE REAR ELEVATION. ONCE AGAIN, THE SIDING LACKS WEATHER PROTECTION. THE BACK DOOR HAS BURGLAR BARS AND THE RAFTERS ARE ROTTING. YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE OVERHANG IS DETACHING ABOVE THE REAR DOOR AND THE WINDOW TO THE RIGHT IS BOARDED UP. THE FOLLOWING PHOTO IS A CLOSER LOOK AT THE DECAYING RAFTERS AND DETACHING OVERHANG. AND THE NEXT PHOTO IS OF THE LEFT ELEVATION, WHICH, UH, ONCE AGAIN THE LACK OF WEATHER PROTECTION IS VISIBLE. THE WOOD TRIMMING ON THE CORNER IS DETACHING AND BROKEN. THE NEXT PHOTO IS A CLOSER LOOK AT THE WEATHER THAN DETACHING SIDING. YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE OVERHANG IS DAMAGED AND MISSING IN SOME OF THE AREAS. NOW WE'RE GONNA GO INTO THE STRUCTURE. UH, ONCE AGAIN, THIS PHOTO IS FROM THE RIGHT ELEVATION DOOR DOORWAY. UNDER THE CARPORT. THE KITCHEN IS TO THE RIGHT. THE DINING ROOM IS STRAIGHT AHEAD AND THE LIVING ROOM IS TO THE LEFT. THE FIRST NOTICEABLE CONCERN IN THE IS THE KITCHEN FLOOR WHERE A LARGE HUMP IS VISIBLE. THE POST UNDER THIS SECTION OF THE HOME IS PUSHING UP, CREATING AN UNLEVEL FLOOR AND TRIPPING HAZARD. THE NEXT PHOTO IS A CLOSER LOOK AT THE FLOOR WHERE THE POST IS PUSHING UP. THE FLOOR COVERING IS MISSING, EXPOSING THE WOOD DECKING, WHICH IS DAMAGED AND WORN. I PLACED A LEVEL ON THE FLOOR IN THAT AREA AND IN THE NEXT PHOTO YOU CAN SEE THE BUBBLE HAS MOVED COMPLETELY OVER SHOWING HOW UNLEVEL THE FLOOR IS, UH, OPPOSING SERIOUS TRIPPING HAZARD AND EGRESS ISSUES. THE FOLLOWING PHOTOS OF THE KITCHEN TO THE RIGHT OF THE HOME, YOU CAN REALLY FEEL THE UNLEVEL FLOOR IN THIS AREA. AND THE NEXT PHOTO IS OF THE LIVING ROOM AND THE BEDROOM TO THE LEFT. UH, THE SHEET ROCK IS MISSING FROM THE WALL BETWEEN THESE ROOMS EXPOSING THE WOOD FRAME. THIS SECTION OF THE HOME IS WHERE THE BEAM IS SITTING ON GRADE. THE FLOOR IS NOTICE NOTICEABLY UNLEVEL HERE AS WELL. THE FOLLOWING PHOTO IS OF A HALLWAY TO THE RIGHT OF THE DINING ROOM, WHICH LEADS TO THE RESTROOM AND THE SECOND BEDROOM, UH, DAMAGED WALLS ARE VISIBLE. THE NEXT PHOTO IS THE ENTRANCE TO THE RESTROOM ON THE RIGHT OF THE HALLWAY. AND THE NEXT PHOTO IS THE SHOWER WHERE THERE ARE VISIBLE SIGNS OF MOLD AND MILDEW IN THE SHOWER AND ON THE FLOOR AROUND THE TUB. THE FLOOR DECKING IS EXPOSED AND ROTTING. AND WHEN WALKING IN THE RESTROOM, THE FLOOR IS VERY, UH, SPONGY. AND THE LAST PHOTO IS OF THE SECOND BEDROOM TO THE LEFT OF THE HALLWAY. THE SHEET ROCK ON THE WALLS HAS, WAS DAMAGED AND THE CEILING WAS VISIBLY SAGGING. [01:40:04] THIS IS A SINGLE STORY RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE WITH POST IMMUNE FOUNDATION WOOD PLANK SIDING AND METAL GABLE ROOF SYSTEM WITH AN ATTACHED CARPORT. THE FOUNDATION IS ON GRADE. THE EXTERIOR SIDING LACKS, WEATHERPROOFING IS SEPARATING AND MISSING IN SOME AREAS. THE OVERHANG IS ROTTED AND THE METAL ROOF COVERING IS WORN AND SAGGING. THE INTERIOR OF THE STRUCTURE IS IN DISREPAIR. THE FLOOR IS DAMAGED, LACKING COVERING, AND IS NOT LEVELED DUE TO COMPROMISE FOUNDATION. THE WALLS HAVE HOLES IN THE SHEETROCK IS DAMAGED AND MISSING IN SOME AREAS. TO RECAP, THE STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 1 0 9 SAN JUAN ROAD IS IN VIOLATION OF CODE ARTICLE EIGHT, I'M SORRY, IS A VIOLATION OF CITY CODE ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER SIX DASH 1 56, SUBSECTIONS 1, 2 8, 11, 12, AND 15 IN WHICH ANY BUILDING OR STRUCTURE WHICH HAS ANY OR ALL OF THE CONDITIONS OF DEFECTS HEREINAFTER DESCRIBED SHALL BE DEEMED TO BE A DANGEROUS BUILDING AND A HAZARD TO PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE. PROVIDED THAT SUCH, POSE THAT CONDITIONS OF, OF DEFECTS OF DILAPIDATION, SUBSTANDARD, OR OF FITNESS FOR HUMAN HABITATION POSE A THREAT OR POTENTIAL THREAT TO LIFE, HEALTH, PROPERTY, OR HUMAN SAFETY STAFF RECOMMENDS DEMOLITION. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION FOR 1 0 9 SAN JUAN ROAD. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? UM, YEAH, STRAND, THIS IS, UH, FRED ANDES. NOW MY UNDERSTANDING, 'CAUSE THE NOTES AREN'T IN FRONT OF US OTHER THAN WHAT YOU HAVE HERE ON THE RESET, IT WAS ONLY FOR HIM TO GET HIS DOCUMENTATION OF OWNERSHIP, CORRECT? CORRECT. SO HE WAS NEVER GIVEN ANY OTHER DOCUMENTS OF REPAIR OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT OR ANY, RIGHT. IT WAS JUST FOR HIM TO, HE WAS NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO MAKE ANY REPAIRS OR ANY CHANGES TO THE PROPERTY UNTIL HE HAD THE DEED CHANGED OVER. AND THAT'S WHAT WE WERE, THAT'S WHAT WE GAVE HIM TIME FOR. NOW, YOU'VE TALKED TO HIM ALL THIS TIME, CORRECT? CORRECT. DID HE INDICATE ANYTHING OTHER THAN JUST GETTING THE DEED? NO. DID YOU EXPLAIN TO HIM THE FOUR REQUIRED DOCUMENTS? YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THIS IS THOMAS FRANKS. WHY IS THE CITY PUSHING FOR DEMO ON THIS? UH, THE, THE DANGERS, THE DANGER, THE STRUCTURE, UH, POSES IN REGARDS TO THE FOUNDATION, THE WALLS, THE ROOF. UM, IT'S, IT, IT, IT, IT STAFF RECOMMENDS DEMOLITION. THANKS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. RICHARD. VILLAREAL, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME FORWARD. STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR HOME ADDRESS PLEASE. UM, RICHARD VIAL, 1 0 5 SAN JUAN ROAD, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 2 3. THANK YOU. AND YOUR TESTIMONY PLEASE? UM, I REQUIRED MY AIRSHIP, UM, FOR THE PROPERTY, MY BROTHER AND I, UH, FOR US. AND, UH, HE IS NOT IN COOPERATION WITH, UH, WITH THE CITY OR WITH ME TRYING TO CORRECT THE PROBLEM. UH, LIKE I SAID, THE, THE REPAIRS OR UP TO CODE IS GOING TO BE $80,000 FROM THE, THE ESTIMATE THAT I HAD GOT IN THE DEMOLITION FOR $18,000. AND EITHER ONE OF THOSE ARE NOT FEASIBLE AT THIS POINT. UM, MY FINANCIAL BACKING THAT WAS HERE LAST TIME, UH, HIS BAILED ON ME. SO I HAVE NO MEANS OF FINANCIALLY SAVING THIS HOUSE OR THIS PROPERTY, UH, IN THE SHAPE IT'S IN BY REPAIR OR EVEN THE DEMOLITION. I COULD DO MY, WELL, YOU KNOW, ACQUIRE THE ASSISTANCE FOR THAT. BUT, UM, I TALKED TO THE OFFICER AND I TOLD HIM WHAT, UH, I TRIED TO DO AND, UM, I CANNOT GET THIS AT THIS POINT. SO ACTUAL OWNERSHIP HAS NOT BEEN CONVEYED EITHER. YES. I ONLY HAVE THE AIRSHIP, NOT THAT THE DEED WOULD HAVE TO BE SPLIT IN TWO. SO I'M TRYING TO GET COOPERATION WITH MY BROTHER AND HE'S NOT COOPERATING WITH IT. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? I DO, KAYLA. SO BASED ON WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, DO YOU, ARE YOU WANTING THE HOME DEMOLISHED? I DON'T REALLY HAVE THE FINANCIAL MEANS OR BACKING NOW TO STOP IT, I BELIEVE. OKAY. THANK YOU. MR. CHAIRMAN THOMAS FRANKS, WHO LIVES IN THE HOME RIGHT NOW? UM, NOBODY RIGHT NOW. OKAY. AND IF YOU HAD YOUR CHOICE, YOU, YOU SAID YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE THE FINANCIAL MEANS TO STOP, BUT IF YOU HAD YOUR CHOICE, WHAT WOULD YOUR CHOICE BE? DEMO OR REPAIR? UH, I WOULD [01:45:01] LIKE TO REPAIRED IT, BUT I, THE, THE ESTIMATES THAT I GOT FOR 80,000 TO $110,000 FOR UP TO CODE WAS WAY BEYOND MEANS. OKAY. HAVE YOU APPLIED FOR ANY OF THE CITY FUNDING THERE? THAT'S THE TANGLEMENT. THE AIRSHIP IS FOR TWO PEOPLE IN COOPERATION. THE ONLY, I'M IN COOPERATION WITH CITI, MY BROTHERS, SO I CANNOT OKAY, THANK YOU. I I CAN'T REALLY LEGALLY UNDERSTAND SAY YES OR NO TO. OKAY. MS. STRANDIS, YOU SAID THAT, UM, JUST TO BRING IT TO CODE WOULD BE $80,000. WELL THAT'S WHAT, UH, THE ESTIMATE THAT I HAD GOT FROM A CONTRACTOR. YEAH. SO THAT'S JUST NOT FINISHING IT OUT, THAT'S JUST CODE. WELL, YEAH, NO, THAT'S FIXED EVERYTHING TO FIX THE SO BEYOND CODE. SO I, YEAH. OKAY. CODE, COMPLETE REPAIR, BRING IT TO CODE. NO, YEAH. TO THERE'S A COMPLETE, YEAH, NO, HE SAID COMPLETE REPAIR FOR 80,000. SO TO COMPLETE EVERYTHING WOULD BE 80,000 OR 85 IF IT WAS YEAH, THAT'S, I'M SURE IT WOULD BE UP TO CODE FOR $80,000. THAT'S WHAT HE MEANT. COMPLETE REPAIR. YEAH, BECAUSE TO BRING IT TO CODE IS A DIFFERENCE THAN IT MIGHT BE. YEAH. BUILDING YOU A MANSION. IT'S JUST TO BRING IT TO CODE. THAT'S WHY I'M, YEAH, THAT MIGHT BE CONSIDERABLY LESS. BUT THAT, AND YOU, YOU NOBODY'S IN THERE RIGHT NOW. DO YOU GO BY THE PROPERTY TO YES. I, I GO BY THERE. UM, I WAS TRYING TO REMOVE SOME STUFF AND CLEAN IT UP AND UH, THE CODE OFFICER SAYS, WELL, IF THIS HAPPENS THEN HE'LL GIVE ME ENOUGH TIME TO CLEAN UP AND REMOVE WHAT I NEED TO DO IN ORDER FOR THIS TO PASS. BUT YOU'RE MAKING SURE NOBODY'S SQUATTING OR, YEAH, MY BROTHER'S THE ONE, THE ONE THAT'S NOT COOPERATING IS SQUATTING ON THE PROPERTY. MY SISTER THAT WAS SQUATTING THERE, SHE PASSED AWAY. SHE JUST GOT KILLED IN THE CAR ACCIDENT. SO YOUR BROTHER'S THERE NOW? MY BROTHER'S STAYING OUTSIDE SQUATTING ON THE PROPERTY ON THE OUTSIDE. THE UNCOOPERATIVE ONE. BUT THAT'S WHAT I JUST ASKED. IS THERE ANYBODY THERE NOW? AND YOU SAID YEAH, NO, NO, HE'S NOT INSIDE THE HOUSE, BUT HE, WELL, ON THE PROPERTY YOU HAVE. OKAY, SO THAT COULD MAKE IT HARD FOR ANYBODY MAY END UP HAVING TO GO DEMO. UH, I AM NOT SURE. I TALKED TO THE OFFICER AND HE SAID, OKAY, IT WAS NO PROBLEM. UH, I SAID IT WAS NO PROBLEM WITH ME. ALRIGHT. BUT YOU GUYS HAVE FOUND A NICE SAFE PLACE TO YES. SO YES. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. YOU MAY BE SEATED. CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MR. CHAIR THOMAS FRANKS. FRANKS, I MOVE TO THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1 0 9 SAN JUAN. UH, ROAD IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE PER CITY CODE CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION SIX DASH 1 57, WHICH IS NOT FEASIBLE TO BE REPAIRED AT THIS TIME AND IS IN VIOLATION OF CITY CODE CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION SIX DASH 1 56, SUB 1 2 8, 11, 12, AND 15. I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY BE DE DEMOLISHED WITHIN 30 DAYS FROM THE ISSUANCE OF THIS ORDER. AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO STIPULATE, UH, THAT IT NEEDS TO BE SH THE PROPERTY NEEDS TO BE SECURED AND ANY PERSONS REMOVED. THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS THAT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1 0 9 SAN JUAN IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE FOR CITY CODE CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION SIX DASH 15 SECTION, EXCUSE ME, 1 57, UH, WHICH IS NOT FEASIBLE, BUT BEING REPAIRED AT THIS TIME AND IS A VIOLATION OF CITY CODE CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION SIX DASH 1 56, SUB CODES ONE, TWO, EXCUSE ME, 1, 2, 8, 11, 12, AND 15 THAT THE PROPERTY BE DEMOLISHED IN 30 DAYS AND SECURED. DO I HAVE A SECOND? UH, I SECOND IT TO FRED ANDERSON. A SECOND IS MO IS MADE. DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE PROPERTY? IF NO DISCUSSION, ROLL CALL PLEASE JOIN NELSON. AYE. FRED ANDIS. AYE. JOEL SOLIS. AYE. CALEB MIRANDA. AYE. THOMAS FRANKS. AYE. GEORGE GRIMES JR. AYE. COURTNEY ROSEN AYE. MOTION PASSES WITH THE VOTE OF SEVEN TO ZERO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR. COUNSEL, THIS IS LEGAL. JUST TO CONFIRM, IT WAS, UH, REQUESTED THAT THE PROPERTY, THE PERSONS ON THE PROPERTY BE REMOVED OR PROPERTY BE VACATED, PROPERTY BE VACATED REMOVED. I JUST WANTED CLARIFICATION ON THAT. THANK YOU. UH, THE MOTION WAS TO PROPERTY BE VACATED. I MISSED THAT IN THE MOTION. THEREFORE WE NEED TO REPEAT THE MOTION. THE MOTION WAS THAT THE [01:50:01] PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1 0 9 SAN JUAN IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE FOR CITY CODE. UH, CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION SIX DASH 1 57, WHICH IS NOT FEASIBLY BEING REPAIRED AT THIS TIME AND IS IN VIOLATION OF CITY CODE CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION SIX DASH 1 56, SUB CODES 1 12 8, 11, 12, AND 15 THAT THE PROPERTY IS TO BE DEMOLISHED IN 30 DAYS SECURED AND VACATED. IS THAT A CORRECT MR. FRANKS? THAT IS CORRECT. MR. CHAIRMAN. GOOD. AND THE SAME WAS SECONDED BY MR. ANDES? YES, THAT'S CORRECT. UH, AND ANY DISCUSSION AT THIS TIME? ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION. RESTATED SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY. THE MOTION DOES CARRY UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. COUNSEL. UH, ANY ADMINISTRATIVE ACTIVITY FROM THE STAFF? UH, ONE IMPORTANT ISSUE THAT I FAILED TO DO AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE SESSION WAS INTRODUCE OUR NEWEST BOARD MEMBER, WHICH COURTNEY? UH, ROSEN. I WELCOME YOU. UH, AND I WILL TELL YOU THIS, YOU SHOWED MORE DIS MORE COURAGE IN THE FIRST MEETING THAN ANYBODY, INCLUDING THE CHAIR, UH, FOR THE FIRST MEETING. SO EXTREMELY GOOD PARTICIPATION IN THE BOARD. THANK YOU FOR VOLUNTEERING, FOR BEING THANKS TO THE COUNCIL FOR REPORTING. I MEAN FOR AGREEING TO ADD YOU TO OUR BOARD. YOU'RE A WELCOME, UH, ADDITION TO IT. UH, AND THANKS FOR BEING HERE TODAY. ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE, UH, FROM THE CITY STAFF? JUDY? YES, SIR. THANK YOU. JUDY CREW BASE BAY LIAISON AGAIN, JUST ALSO WANTED TO WELCOME MS. COURTNEY ROSEN TO THE BSB. MS. ROSEN WAS APPOINTED ON AUGUST 8TH, 2024 AND JOINS PANEL B WITH HER APPOINTMENT. WE DO HAVE NOW A FULL MEMBERSHIP. ALSO THE BSB FULL BOARD MEETING SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER 14TH HAS BEEN RESCHEDULED FOR OCTOBER 10TH. THIS WILL ALLOW THE DSD MANAGEMENT TEAM TO PRESENT INFORMATION ON CHAPTER SIX SUBCOMMITTEE AND THE S-A-P-M-C ADOPTION PROCESS. THE AGENDA WILL BE EMAILED ONCE IT HAS BEEN FINALIZED. ALSO, THE OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK EMAILED A MEETING INVITE TO ALL BOARD MEMBERS FOR A TRAINING SESSION ON PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURES. THE TRAINING WILL BE HELD ON OCTOBER 5TH AT 9:00 AM AND CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS LOCATED AT ONE 14 WEST COMMERCE. IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, PLEASE. RSVP BY MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 30TH. THANK YOU. ARE THEY TRYING TO SAY THE BOARD'S A LITTLE UNRULY? I I THINK THAT THAT, THAT THAT TRAINING IS SOMETHING THAT USUALLY HAPPENS. JUDY, CAN YOU, DO WE HAVE BSB ON THE THIRD? YES, WE DO HAVE A PANEL. A MEETING ON OCTOBER 3RD, YES. OKAY, SO THAT'S NOT THIS PANEL, IT'S THE NEXT ONE? CORRECT. OKAY. RIGHT. WELL THEN I'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO BOTH PANELS. I DO WANNA MAKE SURE, SURE. EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT WE WILL BE LOOKING FOR, UM, PERSONS TO PARTICIPATE IN, UM, SOME OF THE, UH, AMENDMENTS MADE TO S-A-P-M-C. UM, I THINK WE'RE, IT'S GONNA BE BETWEEN FOUR AND SIX PEOPLE. UM, WE ARE GONNA LOOK FOR A MIX OF NEW AND OLD, UM, PERSONS THAT WERE INVOLVED, PERSONS THAT WEREN'T INVOLVED. SO I I SAY THIS TO YOU TO LET YOU THINK ABOUT IF YOU WANT TO COMMIT TO THAT. UM, ROUGHLY ABOUT SIX MEETINGS. UM, BUT I DO KNOW THAT THEY ARE, UH, REALLY WANTING TO, UH, GET THIS, GET THIS MOVING AND GET IT IMPLEMENTED. SO I, I WANNA SAY, TRYING TO GET DONE BY ROUGHLY AROUND DECEMBER. UM, THERE WILL BE LEGAL HERE AND THERE'LL BE A ROTATION OF US. UM, BUT I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU GUYS A HEADS UP ON, UM, WHAT'S GONNA BE HAPPENING AND WHAT'S GONNA BE COMING UP ON THAT. WAS YOUR COMMENT ON THE AGE OF BEING OWED EITHER AN ACTUAL AGE OR IS THAT EXPERIENTIAL? NO. SENIORITY AS IN HOW LONG YOU'VE BEEN WITH THE BOARD? NOT SENIORITY AS IN YOUR AGE. I DO. WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS WE, UM, WE DON'T WANT EVERYBODY THAT'S BRAND NEW OR EVERYBODY THAT'S BEEN HERE FOREVER. WE WOULD LIKE A COMBINATION. WE'D LIKE A GOOD, A GOOD MIXTURE. GOOD VARIETY. SO THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. JUST, JUST WANTED TO VERIFY THAT THIS OLD MAN IS, LOOK, I'M, I'M GONNA TALK, TALKING ABOUT I, WHETHER YOU GUYS BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I'M AN OLD MAN TOO, SO THAT'S WHY YOU NOW SEE ME WITH GLASSES. ANY OTHER ITEMS FROM THE STAFF BESIDES MR AND JUST BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO HIM? NO SIR. NO SIR. NOT AT THIS TIME. NOPE. THAT WAS NOTHING. OKAY. MR. ANDREWS, YOU HAD A COMMENT? YEAH. THE NEW MEMBER. CAN SHE IDENTIFY OR GIVE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF? UM, COURTNEY ROSEN, I WAS BORN ON LACKLAND AIR FORCE BASE AND THEN PROMPTLY LEFT AND CAME BACK AND LEFT AND CAME BACK AND LEFT IN TRUE AIR FORCE FASHION. UM, MILITARY BRAT. UM, I WAS A FORMER SCHOOL TEACHER. I TAUGHT SPANISH, FRENCH AND ENGLISH AS A SECOND LANGUAGE AND, UM, ON THREE, IN THREE COUNTRIES ON THREE DIFFERENT CONTINENTS. AND I'M NOW BACK IN SAN ANTONIO AS A REAL ESTATE BROKER. I OWN A PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY AND I ALSO SIT [01:55:01] ON ANOTHER BOARD AT THE SAN ANTONIO BOARD OF REALTORS IN, IM ACTIVE AND NPA THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY MANAGERS. THANK YOU AND WELCOME TAYLOR. UM, IT'S, IT'S REALLY JUST A RE UM, A REMINDER, UH, WHEN WE'RE SPEAKING ABOUT, UM, INTERPRETATION SERVICES, TO CALL THEM INTERPRETATION SERVICES BECAUSE WE ARE NOT DOING DIRECT TRANSLATIONS, UH, WE ARE DOING INTERPRETATION AND IT'S THE INTERPRETATION OF THE INDIVIDUAL INTERPRETER. SO IT MAY NOT BE EXACT, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE USING LEGAL LANGUAGE. IT IS AN INTERPRETATION, NOT A DIRECT TRANSLATION. THAT WAS AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF UNDERSTANDING. YEP. OKAY. VERY GOOD. ANY OTHER ISSUES WITHOUT OBJECTION. BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, WE'RE ADJOURNED. LOOK AT THE GUY IN THE CORNER. ACTION MAY LOOK . * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. 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