* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:03] ORDERED THE HISTORIC DESIGN REVIEW COMMISSION FOR WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 18TH, 2024. [3:00 PM – Call to Order] MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? CASTILLO? HERE. SAVINO. HERE. VELASQUEZ GALLOWAY? HERE. ZUKA. HERE. AVADA GRO HERE. OH, THANK YOU. UH, CERVANTES. HERE. HOLLAND FETZER HERE. AND GIBBS HERE WE HAVE A GORUM. THANK YOU. MAY I HAVE TRANSLATION SERVICES, PLEASE? GOOD AFTERNOON. THE HISTORIC DESIGN AND REVIEW COMMISSION IS AN ADVISORY BOARD APPOINTED BY CITY COUNCIL. I AM JAY MAURICE GIBBS CHAIRMAN, AND THE VICE CHAIR IS JEFFREY FETZER. IT IS THE FUNCTION OF THE COMMISSION TO ADVISE THE CITY MANAGER AND ALL RELEVANT CITY DEPARTMENTS CONCERNING ALL APPLICATIONS FOR PERMITS FOR PROPERTIES IN HISTORIC DISTRICTS FOR LANDMARKS ON CITY PROPERTY AND THE RIVER IMPROVEMENT OVERLAY. AND FOR DEMOLITIONS. AND CONSIDERING WHETHER TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL OF AN APPLICATION FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS, THE COMMISSION SHALL BE GUIDED BY THE CITY'S UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE AND DESIRED GUIDELINES AND STANDARDS THAT HAVE BEEN ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL AND APPEAL BY OF A DECISION, BY AN ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICIAL CAN BE FILED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CITY'S UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE. IF ANYONE PRESENT WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION TO ANY ITEM ON TODAY'S AGENDA, PLEASE SIGN UP ON THE PUBLIC COMMENT SHEET. IT IS NOT NECESSARY TO SIGN UP. IF YOU ARE THE OWNER OF OR REPRESENTATIVE FOR A PROJECT ON THE AGENDA, YOU'LL BE CALLED UPON AS THE CASE IS CALLED. CASE REPRESENTATIVES WILL BE GIVING THEM MORE THAN 15 MINUTES TO PRESENT THEIR CASE WITH AN ADDITIONAL THREE MINUTES TO RESPOND TO PUBLIC COMMENTS. SPEAKERS FOR SPEAKERS OPPOSED TO A CASE WILL BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES. EACH SPEAKERS MAY ALSO SIGN UP TO YIELD THEIR THEIR THREE MINUTES TO ANOTHER SPEAKER WHO IS SIGNED UP. ANYONE WHO IS YIELDING THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AT THE TIME THE SPEAKER IS CALLED UPON. SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED UPON IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY ARE SIGNED UP FOLLOWING PUBLIC TESTIMONY. ANY COMMISSIONER MAY CALL UPON ANY SPEAKER TO RESPOND TO FURTHER QUESTIONS. APPROVAL BY THE COMMISSION DOES NOT TAKE THE PLACE OF ANY TYPE OF PERMITS. PERMITS MUST BE OBTAINED FOR ALL WORK. CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR WORK APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION WILL BE EMAILED TO YOU WITHIN 10 DAYS. NO WORK OF ANY TYPIST TO BE STARTED WITHOUT OBTAINING THIS APPROPRIATE CITY PERMITS AFTER CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATENESS HAS BEEN ISSUED BY THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION. AT THIS TIME, PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES. WELL, GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. UM, WE HAVE A VERY SHORT AGENDA TODAY, SO WE'LL GET STARTED IN JUST A MINUTE. UM, I DO HAVE A QUICK ANNOUNCEMENT. UM, NEXT MONTH WE WILL BE PROVIDING A DECONSTRUCTION, UH, CONTRACTOR CERTIFICATION TRAINING. UM, THERE'S GONNA BE TWO GROUPS. UM, IT'S A FIVE DAY COURSE. UM, THE FIRST COURSE IS OCTOBER 7TH THROUGH 11TH. THE SECOND GROUP IS OCTOBER 14TH THROUGH THE 18TH. UM, THERE'S SPACE STILL AVAILABLE AND THIS IS FOR ANYBODY THAT, UM, IS A CERTIFIED CON OR IS CURRENTLY CONTRACTED THAT DOES BUSINESS WITH THE CITY THAT WOULD LIKE TO BECOME CERTIFIED IN DECONSTRUCTION SO THAT WHEN DEMOLITION PERMITS ARE PULLED, UM, YOU HAVE ACCESS TO, UH, THOSE PERMITS AND BEING ABLE TO, UH, TO DO THOSE. UM, AND I WILL ALSO ADD JUST A REMINDER THAT THE DECONSTRUCTION ORDINANCE IS EXPANDING AT THE BEGINNING OF NEXT CALENDAR YEAR, SO IN JANUARY. AND SO THERE WILL BE A GREATER NUMBER OF DECONSTRUCTIONS HAPPENING AROUND THE CITY. AND SO THAT'S EXCITING AND WE ARE EXCITED TO BUILD OUR, UH, WORKFORCE AROUND, UM, CONTRACTORS THAT HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT. UM, SO MORE INFORMATION IS ON ESSAY REUSE.COM/TRAINING. UM, AND AGAIN, I THINK IT'S ON THE SCREEN, SO ESSAY REUSE.COM IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THAT TRAINING. UM, AND AT THIS TIME WE JUST NEED ACTION ON MEETING MINUTES FROM SEPTEMBER 4TH. THANK YOU. MAY I HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES, PLEASE? AYE. SO MOVE SECOND. BEEN MOVED. I PROPERLY SECOND MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? CASTILLO? AYE. SAVINO? AYE. GALLOWAY AYE. MOOKA. AYE. EVA AYE GROUP? AYE. CERVANTES? YES. FETZER. AYE. AND GIBBS? AYE. MOTION CARRIES. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. I HAVE, OH, GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD SIR. SO WE DO HAVE, [CONSENT AGENDA Items are placed on the consent agenda when staff recommends approval or recommends approval with stipulations that the applicant agrees to. Any member of the public desiring to speak on a consent agenda item may sign up and be heard prior to voting on the consent agenda. Commissioners may request to remove any item from the consent agenda and have it placed on the individual consideration agenda. All items on the consent agenda will be considered for approval by one motion adopting the items with staff findings and recommendations.] UH, FOUR ITEMS THAT WILL BE HEARD ON THE CONSENT AGENDA TODAY. UM, JUST A NOTE THAT ITEM FOUR HAS BEEN PULLED TO INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION AT THE REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT. UM, SO AT THIS TIME WE WILL PLAY, UH, THE TWO VOICEMAILS THAT RECEIVED FOR ITEMS, UH, TWO AND FIVE. MR. CHAIR, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. ONE MORE WAY BEFORE YOU DO THAT. UH, YIELD FOUR. YES, SIR. YES. UH, JUST ADD ADMIN, UH, QUESTION FOR STAFF. UH, ARE YOU GUYS INVOLVED EITHER AN ADVISORY ROLE OR A PLANNING ROLE FOR THE BIG STADIUM TALK THAT'S BEEN GOING ON AROUND TOWN? UH, [00:05:01] AND IF SO, ARE YOU GONNA CONTINUE TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS? AND THAT, AND THAT CAN ALSO GO FOR THE ONE TO FEW MONTHS AGO PEOPLE WERE MAKING PLANS ABOUT THE TEXAN CULTURES INSTITUTE AS WELL. YOU GUYS ARE IN ALL THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT COMES BEFORE THIS BOARD IF, IF IF NEEDED. YEAH, I MEAN, WHATEVER APPROVALS ARE REQUIRED FROM THIS BOARD, THEY WILL COME HERE. OKAY. YEAH. 'CAUSE I, I JUST GET SOME QUESTIONS FROM CONSTITUENTS AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE THERE ARE SOME HISTORIC PARTS OF THAT, OF THAT PLAN, ESPECIALLY WHERE THE STADIUM IS AND YOU KNOW. YEAH. SO JUST A CLARIFICATION THAT SOME OF THE PROPERTY IS STATE OWNED AND SO WE DO NOT HAVE PURVIEW OVER STATE OWNED PROPERTY. RIGHT. I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT THE OTHER ONES YOU DO WHEN YOU'RE INVOLVED IN THAT ADVISEMENT PROCESS. RIGHT. OKAY. SO IT'S NOT GONNA COME BACK AND SKIP US OR ANYTHING, SKIP YOUR OFFICE OR SKIP THIS BOARD OR THIS COMMISSION? I, I DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH DETAILS TO DESCRIBE A DETAILED PROCESS AT THIS TIME. OKAY. BUT YOU GUYS WILL LEAN IN ON THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S DONE CORRECTLY. LEADING, LEAN IN ON SEEKING OUT INFORMATION AND MAKING SURE THAT YEAH. OKAY. IT DOESN'T GO OVER OUR HEADS, RIGHT? YEAH, WE'LL DO THE RIGHT PROCESS. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. AND ANOTHER QUESTION, COREY, UH, PART OF THAT PROPERTY, IF NOT ALL OF IT, FOR THE BASEBALL STADIUM BY SAN PEDRO CREEK IS IN A NEW, IS IN A RIO DISTRICT, CORRECT? YES. RIO SEVEN. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE'LL HEAR VOICEMAILS NOW. THANK YOU. THIS IS KATE RUCKMAN FOR THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY 1146 SOUTH ALAMO. REGARDING ITEM NUMBER 2 2 0 1 WEST SHERIDAN, THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY OF SAN ANTONIO CONCURS WITH OHP STAFF. RECOMMENDATIONS FOR APPROVAL. WE APPRECIATE THE THOUGHTFUL DESIGN AS IT RELATES TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD. WHILE THE FORMER AML STRUCTURE ADJACENT TO THIS PROJECT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE CURRENT REQUEST, WE URGE THE OWNERS TO INCORPORATE ANY EXTENT HISTORIC WALLS FROM THE ORIGINAL STONE BUILDING INTO FUTURE PLANS FOR THIS SITE. THANK YOU. HDRC AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE, CASE 2024 DASH 3 1 5 4 0 7 DONALDSON AVENUE. MY NAME IS ROBIN FOSTER MONTICELLO PARK ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE OFFERING COMMENTS ON BEHALF OF DREA GARZA, PRESIDENT OF MONTICELLO PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THE MPNA BOARD OF DIRECTORS CO BOX 1 0 0 3 1 5 7 8 2 0 1. WE APPRECIATE PROPERTY OWNERS SEEKING TO INVEST IN THEIR HISTORIC HOME. WE SUPPORT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, HOWEVER, WE RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR HDRC TO ADD A STIPULATION FOR THE WOOD SCREENS TO BE RESTORED AND REINSTALLED ON THE FRONT ELEVATION OF THE HOME BEFORE CREDITS ARE ISSUED BY OHP. THE APPLICANT REMOVED THE ORIGINAL WOOD SCREENS. HISTORIC TAX CREDITS SHOULD NOT BE EXTENDED WHEN AN APPLICANT REMOVES CHARACTER DEFINING FEATURES ON A HISTORIC HOME, SPECIFICALLY ON THE FRONT ELEVATION. WE NOTE PHOTO EVIDENCE OF THE WOODEN SCREENS IS AVAILABLE ON THE HOHP EXPLORER MAP SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT. PLEASE SEE THE PHOTOS IN OUR ATTACHMENT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF OUR COMMENTS AND REQUEST FOR AN ADDITIONAL STIPULATION. AND I WILL ADD A NOTE, UM, FOR ITEM FIVE THAT THE APPLICANT, WE HAVE WORKED WITH THEM AND THEY HAVE AGREED TO REINSTALL WHAT SCREENS THAT MATCH WHAT WAS THERE. AND SO THEY ARE GOING TO MEET THAT REQUIREMENT TO, UH, TO, UM, QUALIFY FOR THE TAX INCENTIVE. THANK YOU. DO ANY COMMISSIONERS WISH TO PULL ANY ITEMS? HEARING NONE. CAN I HAVE A MOTION FOR THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA? I'M MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF AGENDA ITEM 1, 2, 3, AND FIVE WITH STAFF STIPULATIONS. SECOND BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY. SECOND FURTHER DISCUSSION. MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? CASTILLO? AYE. SAVINO AYE. GALLOWAY AYE. MOOKA AYE. EVADO AYE. GROUP. AYE. CERVANTES? YES. HOLLAND. AYE. FETZER AYE. AND GIBBS AYE. MOTION CARRIES. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. IF YOU'RE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND YOUR ADDRESS IS 2102 BROADWAY, 2 0 1 WEST SHERIDAN 1 0 9 MAGNOLIA DRIVE IN ONE IN 4 0 7 DONALDSON AVENUE, YOUR CASE HAS BEEN APPROVED AND YOU DO NOT NEED TO STAY FOR THE REMAINDER OF THIS HEARING. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE CONTACT MEMBER OF STAFF. YOUR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS OR COMMISSION ACTION LETTER WILL BE PREPARED AND EMAILED TO YOU WITHIN 10 DAYS. THANK YOU. [00:10:01] ALL RIGHT. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR, HDRC CASE NUMBER 2024 DASH 3 14 20 55 WEST GRAMERCY PLACE. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING HISTORIC TAX CERTIFICATION AND VERIFICATION FOR THE PROPERTY AT 2055 WEST GRAMERCY. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL BASED ON FINDINGS A THROUGH F WITH THE FOLLOWING STIPULATION THAT THE APPLICANT RE-INSTALL OR FABRICATE NEW WOOD WINDOW SCREENS TO BE VERIFIED BY STAFF, THE APPLICANT, THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO, UM, PRESENT TO PO TO, UH, PROTEST THE STIPULATION AND LILA METZLER SHOULD BE WITH US IN PERSON, I BELIEVE. HI. HEY, I AM THE PROPERTY OWNER FOR 2 0 5 5 WEST GRAMERCY PLACE. UM, I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY IT WAS IN JUST MA'AM, WILL YOU SORRY, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. OH, SORRY. LILA METZLER. THANK YOU. OKAY. WHEN I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, IT WAS IN DISREPAIR HAD BEEN ABANDONED FOR YEARS ON END. UH, THERE WERE VAGRANTS LIVING IN THE PROPERTY, WINDOWS HAD BEEN BROKEN. UH, THE HISTORIC WINDOWS HAD BROKEN. A LOT OF THE HISTORIC SCREENS HAD BEEN, UM, MODIFIED OR REMOVED AND OR BROKEN. UM, MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE SPENT OVER THE LAST YEAR RESTORING THE PROPERTY. WE'VE SPENT OVER $150,000 RESTORING IT. WE HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH RACHEL, UM, ALMOST THE ENTIRE TIME DURING THE PROCESS. AND WE'VE DONE, UM, EVERYTHING THAT WAS REQUIRED. WE'VE ALSO TRIED TO MAINTAIN ANY ORIGINAL CHARACTER THAT WAS WITH THE BUILDING, UM, INCLUDING THE INSIDE OF THE BUILDING. IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO US. UM, WE, WE REALLY LOVE HISTORIC PROPERTIES. I HAVE PERSONALLY DONE SEVERAL HISTORIC PROPERTIES, UM, ON MY OWN. IT'S KIND OF LIKE A PASSION PROJECT FOR ME. THE DECISION NOT TO REINSTALL THE WOOD SCREENS WAS BECAUSE A LOT OF THEM WERE, OR, OR ALL OF THEM ARE IN DISREPAIR. THEY ARE ALL ROTTEN. UM, A LOT OF THE, ALL OF THE SCREENS WERE SLASHED ALSO. WE ONLY HAVE ABOUT HALF OF THE WOOD SCREENS. WE DO NOT HAVE ALL OF THEM. SO THE DECISION WAS NOT MADE LIGHTLY. WE DID SAVE THE WOOD SCREENS, WE PUT THEM IN THE GARAGE, UM, IN CASE THERE IS A FUTURE NEED FOR THEM. BUT WE MADE THE CALL THAT IT WOULD BE A HARDSHIP FOR US TO HAVE TO, PRETTY MUCH, WE WOULD HAVE TO REMAKE EVERY SINGLE SCREEN FOR THAT PROPERTY. AND THAT'S WHY WE MADE THE DECISION NOT TO PUT THEM BACK ON. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. UM, QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? I HAVE A QUESTION, MR. CHAIR. SURE. GO AHEAD. COMMISSIONER GROUP, HOW MANY SCREENS DO YOU THINK YOU HAVE IN GOOD SHAPE? I, I DON'T HAVE, I I DON'T HAVE ANY IN GOOD SHAPE. UM, I ACTUALLY WAS REALLY UPSET, LIKE WITH MY HUSBAND. I WAS LIKE, WHY, WHY DID YOU PUT THE WOOD SCREENS ON ? AND HE WAS LIKE, I CAN'T PUT THEM BACK ON. THEY'RE FALLING APART. UM, I HAVE ABOUT, SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING AND YOU SEE THE ONES THAT HAVE THE, THE ACTUAL, UM, THE DECORATIVE FUNCTIONS, I HAVE ABOUT 10 OF THOSE. UM, THE OTHER SCREENS THAT I HAVE, WHICH ARE, I THINK I HAVE THREE ON THE OTHER SIDE, THEY ARE NOT, THEY WERE NOT THE ORIGINAL WOOD SCREENS AND THEY ARE NOT DECORATIVE AND THEY ALSO DO NOT FACE THE STREET. IF YOU CAN LOOK ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING, YOU'LL SEE A, A FEW OF THEM THAT THEY DON'T MATCH THESE. SO I, I DO HAVE ABOUT 10, UM, BUT I DO NOT HAVE 25. THERE ARE 25 WINDOWS. WE REBUILT EVERY SINGLE WOOD WINDOW IN THE HOUSE BY HAND. WE ALSO REBUILT THEM TO COMPLETELY FUNCTIONING, WHICH WAS, WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WERE TOLD TO DO, BUT ALL THE WINDOWS OPEN AND CLOSED, THEY ALL HAVE NEW LATCHES, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. UM, LIKE I SAID, IF IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE THOUGHT WAS FEASIBLE, I ABSOLUTELY WOULD HAVE 100% PUT THEM ON. WITHOUT QUESTION, I DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE, UH, APPLYING FOR THIS, THAT, THAT IT WAS GOING TO, THAT IT WAS GONNA BE AN ISSUE UNTIL LIKE LAST WEEK. SO I, I OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T HAVE ANY WAY TO PUT THEM ON WITHIN THIS TIMEFRAME. UM, EVEN PUTTING THEM ON BY THE END OF THE YEAR, I FEEL LIKE WOULD COST ME A LOT OF MONEY. AND LIKE I SAID, I'M KIND OF OUT OF MONEY FOR THIS PROJECT. UM, LIKE I SAID, I SAVED THEM. I PUT THEM IN THE GARAGE. SO IF ANYBODY IN THE FUTURE WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT, THEY CAN DO THAT. BUT I THINK THAT WHAT WE'VE DONE RESTORING THE PROPERTY, I THINK THAT WE'VE EARNED THE TAX CREDIT. THE CHAIR, I HAVE A QUESTION AFTER. GO AHEAD SIR. YEAH, SO, AND YOU'RE GONNA FORGIVE IGNORANCE ON THIS, BUT UH, THEY JUST GET TACKED ON, RIGHT? YOU TACK 'EM ON, T 'EM ON, BUT, BUT THEY'RE ROTTEN, RIGHT? NO, NO. I MEAN, IF FOR, IF ONE WAS WORKING, IT WOULD JUST BE TACKED ON. IT'S NOT JUST TACKED ON. THERE'S ACTUALLY SPECIFIC HARDWARE THAT IS ATTACHED TO THE WINDOWS AND MOST OF THAT HARDWARE IS MISSING. SO NEW HARDWARE WOULD HAVE TO GET ON THE WINDOW. SCREENS WOULD HAVE TO BE COMPLETELY REBUILT BY HAND. IT'S NOT LIKE, IT'S NOT LIKE WE JUST HAVE TO PAINT THEM OR SOMETHING. IF IT WAS SOMETHING EASY, LIKE I SAID, WE WOULD'VE DONE IT. IT'S HAVING THEM BE COMPLETELY REBUILT BY HAND. AND LIKE I SAID, THERE'S, THERE'S 20, THERE'S 25 WINDOWS IN THE HOUSE THAT [00:15:01] IT TOOK US PROBABLY THREE MONTHS TO REPAIR THE WINDOWS. AND THE HARDWARE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE THOSE LITTLE CORNER LATCHES THEY KIND OF SWIVEL ON AND THEY, YEAH. OKAY. GOT IT. OKAY. BUT IT'S THE ACTUAL SCREENS BECAUSE, BECAUSE THEY WILL, WE'RE NOT ALL THERE. THEY'RE NOT ALL THERE. SOME WERE MISSING AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALL BROKEN, SO THERE'S NOT LIKE WE CAN SAY, OH, WELL, WE'LL PUT A FEW ON. AND I, I DON'T KNOW IF PUTTING A FEW ON WOULD, WOULD PACIFY THE ISSUE. RIGHT. SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, OF THE FEW THAT YOU DO HAVE, IF ONE WORKS, IT'S, IT'S EASY TO PUT ONE ON, RIGHT? WE CAN PUT IT ON. RIGHT. OKAY. SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF AT SOME POINT SAVING THEM AND, AND RIGHT, RIGHT. AND I WOULD, UH, LIKE TO SELL THE PROPERTY IN THE FUTURE. SO LIKE I SAID, I MADE SURE THAT I SAVE THOSE SCREENS SO THAT IF THERE IS A FUTURE PROPERTY OWNER AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO, THEY CAN DO THAT. UM, AND IF IT WAS SOMETHING EASY FOR ME TO DO OR, OR THAT WAS NOT GONNA COST ME A LOT OF MONEY, I, I WOULD 100% HAPPILY, HAPPILY DO IT. THANK YOU. AND RACHEL DID COME TO MY HOUSE. UM, I THINK SHE WAS HAPPY WITH THE WORK THAT WE DID. UM, AND THIS, THIS ISSUE JUST KIND OF CAME UP LAST MINUTE. OKAY. THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE COMMISSION? SURE. DO I COMMEND YOU ON THE WORK THAT'VE DONE? WE DO HAVE A VOICEMAIL FOR THIS ITEM THAT I THINK WE NEED TO PLAY BEFORE DISCUSSION. OKAY. THANK YOU. RACHEL, HDRC AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE, CASE 2024 DASH 3 15 4 0 7 DONALDSON AVENUE. MY NAME IS ROBIN FOSTER, MONTICELLO CASE 2024 DASH 3 14 20 55 WEST GRAMERCY PLACE. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR, MY NAME IS ROBIN FOSTER MONTICELLO PARK ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE OFFERING COMMENTS ON BEHALF OF DREA GARZA, PRESIDENT OF MONTICELLO PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THE MPNA BOARD OF DIRECTORS PO BOX 1 0 0 3 1 5 7 8 2 0 1. WE APPRECIATE PROPERTY OWNERS SEEKING TO INVEST IN THEIR HISTORIC HOME. WE SUPPORT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. HOWEVER, WE RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR HDRC TO ADD A STIPULATION FOR THE WOOD SCREENS AND THE FRONT DOOR WOOD SCREEN DOOR TO BE RESTORED AND REINSTALLED ON THE FRONT ELEVATION OF THE HOME BEFORE CREDITS ARE ISSUED BY OHP. THE APPLICANT REMOVED THE ORIGINAL WOOD SCREENS AND THE FRONT DOOR WOOD SCREEN. HISTORIC TAX CREDITS SHOULD NOT BE EXTENDED WHEN AN APPLICANT REMOVES CHARACTER DEFINING FEATURES ON A HISTORIC HOME, SPECIFICALLY ON THE FRONT ELEVATION. WE NOTE PHOTO EVIDENCE OF THE WOODEN SCREEN IS AVAILABLE ON THE OHP EXPLORER MAP SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT. PLEASE SEE THESE PHOTOS BELOW IN THE ATTACHMENT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF OUR COMMENTS AND REQUEST FOR AN ADDITIONAL STIPULATION. MAY I SAY ONE MORE THING? YES, GO AHEAD, MA'AM. UM, ALSO, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW FAMILIAR, I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE ARE MANY HISTORIC HOUSES IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT DO NOT HAVE THE WOOD SCREENS AND THERE ARE MANY HOUSES IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WERE REPAIRED NOT TO HISTORIC STANDARDS THAT THE ORIGINAL WINDOWS REMOVED. UM, I'M NOT SAYING I SHOULD HAVE DONE ANY OF THOSE THINGS. I'M HAPPY, I'M A PROUD OWNER OF THAT PROPERTY, BUT I'M NOT THE ONLY PERSON THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE WOOD SCREENS ON THE WINDOWS. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD SIR. SURE. UH, ROLAND MOOKA, DISTRICT FIVE AND, UM, YOU REFER TO THE WINDOW SCREENS AS DECORATIVE ELEMENTS. I JUST WANNA REMIND YOU THAT WE LIVE IN SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS AND IT GETS VERY HOT HERE. UH, THERE ARE THREE MONTHS, FOUR MONTHS, FIVE MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR THAT YOU CAN OPEN YOUR WINDOWS AND SAVE A GOOD THOUSAND DOLLARS ON YOUR UTILITY BILLS BY ALLOWING FRESH AIR IN. AND THAT'S THE ORIGINAL PURPOSE OF HAVING SCREENED DOORS AND SCREEN WINDOWS. RIGHT. I JUST, UM, PUT ALL NEW INSULATION IN THE HOUSE, , AND A BRAND NEW AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM BECAUSE THEY, THEY WERE NOT THERE BEFORE. UM, ALSO I DIDN'T REFER TO THEM AS DECORATIVE. I SAID SOME OF THEM WERE DECORATIVE. THE ONES ON THE FRONT FACING WERE DECORATIVE. THE ONES IN THE, THE SIDE IN THE REAR OF THE HOUSE WERE NOT ORIGINAL OR DECORATIVE. THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS? THAT MA THANK YOU. UM, HAVE YOU, IN THE MEANTIME, HAVE YOU PURSUED AN ESTIMATE FROM A VARIETY OF CRAFTSPEOPLE OR VENDORS TO REMAKE THE SCREENS? UM, I HAVE NOT. I DO KNOW THAT MY HUSBAND REBUILT ALL OF THE WINDOWS AND WE HAD A LOT OF NEIGHBORS COME OVER AND ASK US IF WE COULD DO THEIR WINDOWS. I KNOW THAT IT IS A VERY EXPENSIVE PROCESS, SO IF THERE'S 25 WINDOW SCREENS, I KNOW THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE AT LEAST SEVEN, SEVERAL HUNDRED DOLLARS A PIECE TO REDO. UH, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE A HUNDRED DOLLARS A PIECE, SO THEY'RE GONNA, IT'S GONNA COST, AT LEAST IN MY ESTIMATE. THAT'S WHY [00:20:01] I AM ASKING IF YOU HAD SOME ESTIMATES, MIGHT I JUST KNOW, I JUST KNOW FROM WORKING ON HISTORIC PROPERTIES MM-HMM. BALLPARK HOW MUCH THEY WOULD COST. AND I THINK IT'S GONNA AT LEAST COST FIVE TO 7,000 FOR 25 WINDOWS. OKAY. SCREEN SCREENS. SCREENS, YEAH. SCREEN SCREEN SCREENS. SCREENS, YES. YEAH. OTHER QUESTIONS? QUESTION. AND THEN I MAKE A MOTION IF NO ONE HAS ANYTHING TO SAY. JUST I DO YOU WHAT REMAINS OF THE SCREENS THAT CAME DOWN OR DO YOU THEY'RE IN THE GARAGE. THEY'RE, THEY'RE STILL ON PROPERTY. OKAY. THEY'RE ON PROPERTY. YEAH. I I I DIDN'T DISPOSE OF ANYTHING. UM, HISTORIC WITHIN THE HOUSE. THEY'RE, THEY'RE IN THE GARAGE. OKAY. I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION, MR. PRESIDENT. GO AHEAD, MR. CHAIR. UM, SO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, HAS MADE A SUGGESTION TO REPLACE THE REPLACE OR REPAIR THE SCREENS ON THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE. OKAY. BECAUSE YOU'RE ON A CORNER, YOU HAVE TWO HIGHLY VISIBLE, WE HAVE TWO ELEVATIONS LIGHTS. YEAH. UM, WOULD YOU CONSIDER SIMPLY DOING THE SCREENS ON THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE AS WELL AS ON WHAT I'M LOOKING AT THINKING IS THE WEST ELEVATION OR THE YEAH, I, I THINK THAT WOULD BE, UM, A GOOD COMPROMISE, I THINK. YEAH. UM, AND THE ONES IN THE SIDE AND THE BACK ARE NOT AS VISIBLE. UM, SO THE, IF WE COULD DO THE ONES ON THE, LIKE SHE SAID, THE FRONT ELEVATION, THE ONES FACING THE STREET AND THE, ON THE SIDE OF THE STREET, I WOULD BE WILLING, UM, WE WOULD DO THEM OURSELVES. SO IT'S GONNA TAKE US A WHILE. I WOULD BE WILLING TO DO THAT. THE FRONT SCREEN DOOR. UM, I WAS REALLY HOPING NOT TO PUT THAT BACK ON BECAUSE WE HAVE A REALLY LOVELY ORIGINAL OAK WOOD DOOR WITH BRASS, UM, BRASS FIXTURES. AND WE ACTUALLY TOOK ALL THOSE FIXTURES APART. WE REBUILT THEM ALL. WE SANDED THE DOOR. IT'S, IT'S THE LOVELY DOOR. SO IF WE, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE TO PUT THAT BACK ON, I WOULD REALLY, I HAVE IT, BUT I WOULD LOVE NOT TO HAVE TO PUT THAT BACK ON. I COULD UNDERSTAND THAT. THANK YOU. WELL, WE'RE, UM, MOTION, GO AHEAD SIR. SURE. I WOULD, I I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, UM, IF THE APPLICANT IS WILLING TO, UH, I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO, UM, APPROVE WITH THE STIPULATIONS THAT THE APPLICANT RESTORED THE, THE FRONT AND SIDE FACING ELEVATIONS AND THEN, UH, NOT INCLUDING THE FRONT DOOR. OKAY. AND TO KEEP THE EXISTING MATERIAL ON SITE THAT YOU DON'T USE SECOND. I WOULD AGREE TO THAT. I THINK IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED ON DISCUSSION, GUYS, SIR. YEAH, I, I THINK, I THINK MY FEDERAL COMMISSIONER HAS GOT IT RIGHT. YOU CAN GET THE DOOR FIXED, YOU CAN HAVE THE, THE CHAIRMAN THERE AND PUT IT AWAY AND YEAH. SLAP IT ON WHEN IT'S, WHEN A PARADE WALKS BY OR SOMETHING. I MEAN, YOU HAVE IT ON THE PROPERTY, A DOOR COMES OFF AND ON FAIRLY EASY AND IT, YOU KNOW, OKAY, YOU MIGHT END UP LIKING IT, BUT THAT'S CHARACTER TO THE HOME. IT IS CHARACTER DEFINING. SO I THINK THE FACT THAT IF YOU CAN HAVE IT READY TO GO, IT GOES A LONG WAY. OKAY. SO, BUT DO, WE'RE, WE'RE AGREEING ON DOING, OR DID YOU NOT PASS THE MOTION YET? YOU GOT PASSED THE MOTION? WE'RE IN DISCUSSION, WE'RE DISCUSSING. I MEAN, WE, THERE'S A STIPULATION, COULD THERE BE A STIPULATION THAT COVERS THAT? THE DOOR BE THE SCREEN DOOR BE FIXED? AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID, RIGHT? NO, THAT I, I, I, UH, DID NOT STIPULATE THAT THE, THAT THE DOOR HAD TO, THE FRONT DOOR SCREEN HAD TO BE, UH, PUT ON ONLY JUST THAT IT BE RETAINED. THAT JUST YOU YEAH, I, I'M HAPPY TO RETAIN IT. YOU JUST KEEP IT ON SITE RETAINED AND RE REPAIRED, RIGHT? NO, NO, IT JUST RETAINED, SORRY, RETAINED ON SITE. THE MATERIAL KEPT ON SITE, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE PUT ONTO THE DOOR. OKAY. SAY SECOND FURTHER DISCUSSION. CAN I JUST ADD A COMMENT TO IT TO SURE. THERE'S SOME WINDOWS THAT DID NOT HAVE SCREENS RIGHT ON THE FRONT, FRONT AND ON THE SIDE. YEAH, I, I'M GONNA HAVE TO REBUILD THEM. OKAY. AND, AND YOU'RE JUST GONNA DO THE DECORATIVE, RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW IF THAT SHOULD, HAS TO BE ADDED A STIPULATION OR IF WE'RE DOING, I'M GONNA DO THE ONES THAT I, I MEAN, I WILL REBUILD THEM TO MATCH THOSE. SO RIGHT NOW THERE'S, ON THAT PICTURE, THERE'S SIX. SO I WILL, I WILL MAKE THEM MATCH WHATEVER'S ON THAT, ON THE FRONT AND THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE. AND THAT'S THE INTENT OF THE MOTION. THANK YOU. FURTHER DISCUSSION. AND, AND THIS HAS TO BE, IT WILL BE APPROVAL WITH STIPULATION THAT THIS IS DONE BEFORE THE TAX, THE TAX YEAR BEGIN OR BEFORE THE NEW YEAR BEGINS, IS THAT RIGHT? SO THE, IT IS GONNA BE WITH THE STIPULATIONS, I MEAN, IF THE MOTION PASSES, SO YES. SO THAT'S WHAT WE REFER BEFORE YOU GO AHEAD AND GET THE, THE STIPULATION? YES. OKAY. I MEAN, BEFORE YOU GET THE CERTIFICATION. OKAY. UM, MR. CHAIR TO, TO CLARIFY THE, THAT NEEDS TO BE COMPLETED BEFORE THE CERTIFICATION AND THEN THERE'S ADDITIONAL WORK THAT STAFF DOES TO SUB SUBMIT IT TO BEXAR COUNTY, AND THERE IS A TIME LAG THERE. SO YOU MAY WANT TO, UH, VISIT WITH STAFF ABOUT EXACTLY THE LOGISTICS OF THAT, BECAUSE THAT MAY, YOU MAY [00:25:01] GET THE SCREENS DONE BY DECEMBER 31ST AND GET THE CERTIFICATION BY THE 31ST, BUT IT MAY OR MAY NOT APPLY TO THE NEXT TAX YEAR, DEPENDING ON THAT TIMING WITH WELL, IF WE'RE GONNA, IF WE ARE GONNA DO IT, WE'RE GONNA DO IT LIKE, LIKE RIGHT AWAY. YEAH. SO THAT WE CAN PROCEED, JUST SO YOU KNOW. OKAY. OKAY. DID YOU HAVE, AND I, I, I DO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. IF, IF SOMEHOW BETWEEN NOW AND THE END OF THE YEAR, FOR SOME REASON WE'RE, WE'RE WAITING ON SOMETHING, IF THE PROPERTY TRANSFERS OWNERSHIP FROM ME, DOES, DOES THIS APPROVAL TRANSFER TO THE NEW OWNERS? YES. SO WE'LL SEE WITH THE PROPERTY. OKAY. OKAY. COMMISSIONER GROUP, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE? OKAY, MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? CASTILLO? AYE. SAVINA? AYE. GALLOWAY AYE. ZUKA AYE. DIVA AYE. GROUP. AYE. CERVANTES? YES. HOLLAND. AYE. SORRY, I DIDN'T HEAR MY NAME. FETZER. AYE. AND GIBBS AYE. MOTION CARRIES. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND ANY RELATION TO NATE CERVANTES? NO. OH, I LIKE IT. HE'S MY DOCTOR. I LIKE HIM. . ALL RIGHT, WE'RE [INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION] GOOD? YES. THANK YOU. ITEM SIX, PLEASE. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX HCRC CASE 2024 DASH 2 67 26 19 MCCULLOUGH AVENUE. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF A WAIVER PURSUANT OF CITY CODE SECTION 35 DASH 6 0 8 G TO RECONSIDER PREVIOUSLY DENIED ITEMS A INSTALL FIVE FIXED WINDOWS, REPLACEMENT WINDOWS LOCATED ON THE FIRST FLOOR SOUTH ELEVATION. THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED TO CONCEAL THESE WINDOWS WITH HISTORICALLY APPROPRIATE WOOD WINDOW SCREENS. AND TWO, SHOULD THE WAIVER BE GRANTED, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR APPROVAL OF THE ITEM LISTED ABOVE. ITEM ONE. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE WAIVER TO RECONSIDER THIS ITEM. THERE IS NEW EVIDENCE INCLUDED IN THIS REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE UDC ITEM TWO. IF A WAIVER TO BE CONSIDERED IS APPROVED, STAFF RECOMMENDS THE FOLLOWING, ONE. APPROVAL. APPROVAL TO REPLACE THE FIVE WINDOWS ON THE SOUTH FACADE WITH STIPULATION THAT APPROPRIATE ONE ONE SLASH WINDOWS ARE INSTALLED INSTEAD OF FIXED WINDOWS BASED ON FINDING D THE PROPOSED WINDOW SCREENS ARE APPROPRIATION IN DISPOSITION REGARDING THE WINDOW PRODUCT. IF THE HCRC APPROVES RETENTION OF THE FIXED WINDOWS AND STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE WINDOWS SCREENS BE REQUIRED AND THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE PROPERTY, JAMES MCKNIGHT IS HERE IN PERSON, YOU DO HAVE ONE LETTER IN YOUR FOLDER AND WE HAVE ZERO IN-PERSON SIGNUPS AND VOICEMAILS. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, JAMES MCKNIGHT, 1 1 2 EAST PECAN ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER, I AM VERY NOT USED TO PRESENTING THIS EARLY IN THE, IN THE AGENDA . I USUALLY HAVE LIKE AN HOUR OF WORK THAT I CAN DO BEFORE I CAN GET UP HERE. OKAY, THANK YOU. UH, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. UM, OKAY, THAT'S JUST ESTABLISHING WHAT THE, THE EXISTING PROPERTY ON MAGNOLIA AND UH, AND MCCULLOUGH. AND SO THE FIRST THING THAT, UH, CLAUDIA TALKED ABOUT WAS A WAIVER. SO THIS PROPERTY CAME IN MAY. UH, WE WERE NOT HIRED AT THE TIME, BUT THE PROPERTY OWNER HAD THE RED BOX THAT YOU SEE AT THE TOP. SHE HAD TAKEN THOSE WINDOWS OUT ON THE SOUTH FACADE AND ON THE EAST FACADE ON THE UP ON THE SECOND STORY. AND THEN ON THE BOTTOM FIRST STORY, THE, THERE WERE FIVE WINDOWS THAT WERE REPLACED. SO, UH, SHE HAD COME AT THE TIME IN MAY, IF YOU REMEMBER IT, JUST TO SAY, UH, SORRY, CAN I HAVE THESE AS THEY ARE, KEEP THE SIDING WHERE IT IS, KEEP MY WINDOWS AS THEY ARE. AND THAT WAS DENIED. AND SO SHE WAS UNDER A PLAN TO HAVE THOSE ALL REPLACED. SHE CAME TO ME AND SAID, IS THERE ANY WAY TO COMPROMISE? SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AT THIS TIME IS, UH, FIRST OF ALL ASK FOR THE WAIVER TO, TO COME FORWARD, THAT THAT IS A DIFFERENT REQUEST. PART OF WHAT'S DIFFERENT IS THAT YOU'LL SEE THE UPPER STORY WINDOWS ARE ALL GONNA BE REPLACED. SO SHE DIDN'T, NONE OF THOSE WERE KEPT AND SHE WAS TRYING TO SAY, CAN I KEEP IT AS IT IS WITH THE SIDING? WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THAT ANYMORE. WE'RE GONNA REPLACE THOSE. SO THE SOUTH FACADE ON THE SECOND FLOOR THAT YOU SEE, THE NORTH FACADE AS WELL, THERE'S GONNA BE THREE WINDOWS ON BOTH THOSE WILL BE RECONSTRUCTED. AND THEN THE, UH, WINDOW THAT YOU SEE THAT'S ADJACENT ON THE SECOND STORY, THAT WILL ALSO BE REINSTALLED. SO ALL THOSE WINDOWS ARE GOING BACK IN. SO THE ONLY REQUEST THAT WE'RE COMING FOR TODAY IS ON THE SOUTH, ON THE SOUTH FACADE ON THE FIRST FLOOR, THOSE WINDOWS WERE REPLACED WITHOUT A COA AND WE'RE REQUESTING THAT THEY STAY AS IS, BUT COVERED OVER WITH A SCREEN. SO, UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THESE ARE, THAT'S THE WINDOW, UH, DRAWING FROM OUR CONTRACTOR TO REPLACE THAT EAST FACADE WINDOW ON THE SECOND FLOOR. NEXT [00:30:01] SLIDE PLEASE. AND THEN THESE ARE, THERE'S A LOCATION OF WHAT THE WINDOWS WILL BE, WILL LOOK LIKE WHEN WE REINSTALL THEM ON THE SECOND FLOOR. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THAT'S A DRAWING FROM OUR CONTRACTOR AGAIN. NEXT SLIDE. SO THESE ARE THE WINDOWS, AS THEY EXISTED ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, BEFORE SHE REPLACED THEM, IT, THEY WERE FIXED WINDOWS, THEY HAD THESE MUONS ON THEM. AND SO WHAT WE WANNA DO IS KEEP THE ONES SHE INSTALLED, BUT THEN INSTALL A NEW WOOD SCREEN OVER THE TOP WITH THOSE MUONS TO MAKE IT APPEAR THE WAY IT USED TO BEFORE. NOW, THE ONLY REAL DIFFERENCE HERE BETWEEN WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR AND WHAT STAFF HAS MADE A RECOMMENDATION FOR IS THAT THEY, THEY'VE ASKED US TO REPLACE THOSE WINDOWS WITH OPERABLE WINDOWS. AND, UM, OUR CONTENTION AS IS THE MONTE VISTA SOCIETY 'CAUSE THEY ARE IN SUPPORT WAS THAT THERE WASN'T CLEAR EVIDENCE OR THEY DON'T THINK THAT THOSE WINDOWS ARE ORIGINAL. THE ONES THAT WERE REPLACED WERE ALREADY HAD BEEN REPLACED PRIOR. SO THE ONES THAT SHE REPLACED WERE ALREADY FIXED. AND UNDER THE GUIDELINES, IF YOU'RE REPLACING UM, WINDOWS, IT SHOULD BE HOW THEY ARE EXISTING. SO IN, IN OTHER WORDS, SHE IS THE REPLACEMENTS SHE DID WERE IN LINE WITH THE GUIDELINES AND THAT, THAT SHE WAS REPLACING ANOTHER FIXED WINDOW. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS NOW THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE A SCREEN OVER THE TOP THAT SHOWS THE, THE MUS. IF YOU, UH, GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO THE SCREENS AS THEY'LL BE INSTALLED WILL LOOK, YOU KNOW, VERY SIMILAR TO THE WAY THE WOOD WINDOWS, UH, DID PRIOR TO HER DOING THAT WORK. UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS IS A, A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM THE MONTE VISTA HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION. WE MET WITH THEM AND THEY DID NOT SUPPORT US KEEPING THE WINDOWS, UM, AS THEY WERE UPSTAIRS ON THE SECOND FLOOR COVERED OVER. THIS IS WHY WE'RE REPLACING THOSE. BUT THEY ARE, ARE IN SUPPORT OF KEEPING THE WINDOWS AS THEY ARE ON THE FIRST FLOOR AND JUST REPLACING IT WITH THE, OR BUILDING A NEW SCREEN TO GO OVER THE TOP. UM, LAST SLIDE. I THINK IT'S JUST, AGAIN, IT'S A SUMMARY OF WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING. FIRST, THE WAIVER THAT WE'RE COMING IN WITH A DIFFERENT REQUEST. AND, AND TWO, THAT WE KEEP THE WINDOWS AS THEY ARE AND INSTALL THOSE NEW WOOD SCREENS. THANK YOU COURT, MR. CHAIRMAN? YES, GO AHEAD SIR. UM, IN LIGHT OF THE, THE NEW INFORMATION AND THE UH, FACT THAT THE APPLICANT IS, UH, SAYING THAT SHE'LL REPLACE THE, THE, UH, WINDOWS THAT HAD BEEN REMOVED ON THE SECOND FLOOR, I MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE WAIVER. SECOND. YEP. THANK YOU. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECOND FOR ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. GREAT. MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? CASTILLO? AYE. SAVINA? AYE. GALLOWAY? AYE. ZUKA. AYE. GUEVARA. AYE GROUP. AYE. CERVANTES? YES. HOLLAND. AYE. FETZER. AYE. AND GIBBS? AYE. MOTION CARRIES. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. SO YOU JUST WORK WITH STAFF SO YOU'RE GOOD TO GO, SIR? OH, THERE'S ITEM TWO. YEAH, THAT WAS JUST, OH, I'M SORRY. IT WAS SO RIGHT. GO AHEAD. ITEM TWO, PLEASE. I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, MR. CHAIR. ABSOLUTELY. GO COMMISSIONER. UM, OR I JUST WANT SOME CLARIFICATION. MM-HMM, ON THE TOP WINDOWS. UM, SO IF WE GO, SO THERE'S THOSE THREE, IT'S JUST ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE HOUSE, RIGHT? NOT ON THE OTHER SIDE. THERE'S, IT'S ON THE SOUTH AND NORTH. UH, THE UP THE SECOND STORY, THE LARGER AREA, YEAH. IF YOU LOOK ON EITHER SIDE OF THAT, THERE'S A NORTH AND A SOUTH THAT THERE'S GONNA BE THREE WINDOWS REPLACED. SO SIXTH TOTAL ON THAT AREA. AND THEN THERE'S A SEVENTH ON THE PICTURE THAT YOU'RE SEEING. THAT IS THE SEVENTH WINDOW. THERE'S GONNA BE A SINGLE, SINGLE HUNG WINDOW. OKAY. SO IT IS ON BOTH SIDES. MM-HMM? IT IS ON BOTH SIDES. YES. LOCATION THREE OF, YEAH, THERE YOU GO. THERE'S THE OTHER THREE. YEAH. THANK YOU. UH, THERE'S NO MORE COMMENTS. I'LL MAKE A MOTION. OKAY. COMMISSIONER GROUP, I MOVE TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED TODAY. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY. SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? WELL, UM, I APPRECIATE ALSO THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMENTS AND, AND THE FACT THAT YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S REALLY NO, I MEAN, WHAT WAS THERE BEFORE AND THAT'S NOW I THINK THE SCREENS WILL, YOU KNOW, MITIGATE THAT. I THINK IT'S A GOOD COMPROMISE. I APPRECIATE THE APPLICANT, UM, WORKING AND COMING BACK AND ACTUALLY COMING UP WITH SOMETHING AND, UH, SO I APPRECIATE THAT AND UM, LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE PROJECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FURTHER. THANK YOU. MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? CASTILLO? AYE. S AYE. GALLOWAY? AYE. ZUKA. AYE. GUEVARA. AYE GROUP. AYE. CERVANTES? YES. HOLLAND. AYE. FETZER. AYE. AND GIBBS. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU EVERYONE. THAT WAS THE LAST CASE ON THE AGENDA, SO WE ARE ADJOURNED. HAVE A GREAT DAY. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.