* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:04] ALL RIGHT, EVERYBODY. UM, IT IS TWO OH SIX AND WE WILL CALL THE, UM, UM, SEPTEMBER 25TH. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER. WOULD STAFF PLEASE DO A ROLL CALL? COMMISSIONER GARCIA HERE. COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? HERE. COMMISSIONER ETTE? HERE. COMMISSIONER ORIAN. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? HERE. CHAIR PECK. CHAIR PECK PRESENT. A QUORUM IS PRESENT. ALL RIGHT. CAN WE HAVE THE SPANISH ENGLISH INTERPRETER PLEASE? GOOD AFTERNOON, ES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. UH, TODAY WE WILL HAVE TWO AGENDAS. OUR FIRST AGENDA [Public Comment] IS THE COMBINED HEARING AGENDA. CASES THAT ARE ON THE COMBINED HEARING AGENDA ARE CASES WHERE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. THE PLANNING COMMISSION DOES NOT REQUIRE FURTHER DETAILED DISCUSSION, AND NO ONE IN THE AUDIENCE HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM. ALL THE CASES ON THE COMBINED HEARING AGENDA WILL BE READ INTO THE RECORD IN ONE UNIFIED MOTION. THE OTHER AGENDA IS THE INDIVIDUAL HEARING AGENDA. ANYTHING NOT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE ON THE COMBINED HEARING AGENDA. THERE'S PEOPLE HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT NUMBER TWO. I REALIZE THAT. OKAY, BECAUSE I THOUGHT HE JUST SAID THANK YOU. OKAY. WELL, THERE'S ACTUALLY NOBODY ON MY SIGNUP SHEET FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO. THERE WAS PEOPLE STATIONED OUTSIDE THE FRONT DOOR RIGHT HERE WITH A SIGN-IN SHEET. IT'S UP TO YOU CHAIR. HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER TWO? OKAY. UM, CAN YOU SIGN UP REAL QUICK? YEAH. ALL RIGHT. THERE IS, BEFORE WE MOVE ON, UM, AS I SEE IT RIGHT NOW, THE ITEMS ON THE, UH, CONSENT AGENDA ARE EVERYTHING EXCEPT ITEM 6, 7, 9, 10, AND 13. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR, UM, THE SIGNUPS ON ITEM NUMBER TWO, THERE IS SOMEBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR OF FRANKLIN? I THINK IT'S KYLE, ABOUT THE PLAT FOR ITEM NUMBER FOUR. DID YOU WANT, DID YOU NEED TO ADDRESS COMMISSION? NO. OKAY. THANKS. CHAIR. THE FIRST PERSON TO SIGN UP FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO IS A JOSE SENIO. ALL RIGHT. UH, JOSE ZENIO, PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. AND THIS IS FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO, CORRECT? YES, SIR. OKAY. UH, THIS IS MY NAME'S JOE, BE, IT'S FOR THE RAIL CREST UNIT ONE PLUS TWO PROPERTY. THAT THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT WAS NAMED ON OUR PROPERTY THAT THEY SENT US. UH, WE JUST GOT A, A LETTER FROM A DEVELOPER VERY QUICKLY, JUST A WEEK AGO. UH, THIS DEVELOPMENT BEHIND US. UH, WE SEE MANY CHANGES HAPPENING QUICKLY HERE. AND, UH, PRIOR TO THIS, UH, THIS PROPERTY HAD BEEN, UH, RAISED. ACTUALLY, THE TOP TOPOGRAPHY HAS CHANGED, I'M ASSUMING, BY THE DEVELOPER, WHICH HAS RAISED THE PROPERTY, THEIR PROPERTY, BUT IN TURN HAS MADE OUR PROPERTY LOWER. AND SO THE DRAINAGE IS POOR THERE. UM, IN THAT MAP THAT THEY SENT US, THEY CONSIDER IT NOW AN ALLEYWAY BETWEEN PROPERTIES AND THE MAP THEY SENT, THEY SENT US, OF COURSE, HAS MANY OTHER CHANGES. THEY'RE ALSO, UH, ALSO LET MY WIFE SPEAK AT THIS MOMENT, LIKE THE REST OF YOUR TIME, . OKAY. NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. I HAD, CAN I HAVE HIS TIME AND MY TIME? ISN'T THAT WHAT IT SAYS? OH, IT DOESN'T. OKAY. MY NAME IS ANGELINA SENIO, 1 0 4 4 5 O'CONNOR ROAD. UM, I'M AGAINST THIS. IT'S THE SAME ONE. ITEM TWO. UH, THEY ARE TURNING 29 LOTS INTO 105. THEY ARE CUTTING OUR ACCESS TO A FOUR FOOT ALLEY BEHIND OUR ADJOINING PROPERTY, UM, INTO THE BACK OF ONE OF THESE LOTS. [00:05:01] IT IMPACTS THE VALUE OF OUR PROPERTY. UM, ALSO THE REMOVAL OF A ROAD NEXT TO OUR PROPERTY AFFECTS OUR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AND INGRESS, EGRESS OF OUR PROPERTY. THE, UH, AMOUNT OF, UH, THAT RIGHT OF WAY, THEY ARE WANTING TO CUT FROM 60 FEET TO 30 FEET, AND THEY HAVE ALREADY CUT DOWN SO MANY TREES THAT HAVE NOW INCREASED A DRAINAGE PROBLEM IMPACTING THE ENVIRONMENT. LEAVING THAT 60 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY NEXT TO OUR PROPERTY IN BETWEEN THEIR DRAINAGE AREA AS PROPOSED, WOULD AFFECT NOTHING BY EITHER OF US, OTHER THAN THEY'VE ALREADY REMOVED THOSE TREES AND STARTED LAND DEVELOPMENT AND CHANGING THE TOPOGRAPHY. UM, THE DRAINAGE, I CAN'T SEE EASILY THAT IT IS ACTUALLY BEING DRAINED TOWARDS THE PROPOSED DRAINAGE SYSTEMS IN THEIR OPEN AREAS INSTEAD OF AWAY FROM O'CONNOR ROAD AND I, THAT CREATES A COST TO THE CITY OF LIVE OAK AND COUNTY WHEN THEIR DRAINAGE IS REROUTED TO A MAIN CITY STREET THAT IS PAID FOR BY TAX DOLLARS. ALSO, THESE DEVELOPERS HAVE ALREADY INSTALLED CURBS AND PAVING THESE ROADS, UH, LIKE IT ALREADY WAS APPROVED BY THIS COMMISSION. UM, IT, IT KIND OF UPSETS ME THAT THIS IS, THIS IS HOW IT GOES. THEY GET TO CHANGE EVERYTHING AND THEN PRESENT SOMETHING AFTER THE FACT, AND THAT IF THE CALLS THAT I MADE TO OUR PLANNING CONTACT, UM, WASN'T RETURNED. UM, AND THE OTHER THING IS, IS WE HAVE A LOT OF NATIVE WILDLIFE THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN PUSHED ONTO OUR PROPERTY, UM, BECAUSE OF HOW THEY HAVE JUST KNOCKED DOWN EVERYTHING IN THE DEVELOPMENT AREA. UM, AND I'M NOT SURE WHY THEY ALSO DESTROYED TREES IN AN AREA THAT THEY'RE SAYING THAT THEY WERE GONNA LEAVE OPEN. UM, I, I JUST REALLY, REALLY APPEAL TO THIS COMMISSION THAT YOU ASK FOR AN EN ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY AND ALSO A DRAINAGE PLAN THAT ACTUALLY IS DONE BY AN ENGINEER AND LOOKED AT NOT AS THIS IS WHAT WAS EXISTING, IS IT WASN'T EXISTING LIKE THIS BEFORE THEY STARTED. OKAY. THANK YOU, MA'AM. UM, THERE'S NOBODY ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. UM, SO JUST A REAL QUICK QUESTION FOR STAFF. THIS PLAT MEETS ALL, UH, REQUIREMENTS OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE AND DOES NOT HAVE ANY VARIANCES, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. IT WENT THROUGH ALL THE REVIEW STATUSES. UM, IF WE, WE CAN ACTUALLY STEP OUT INTO THE HALLWAY AND HAVE A CONVERSATION. WE HAVE STORM WATER HERE AS WELL, IF THEY HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO, OKAY. UM, ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS ON THIS ITEM? MEREDITH, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY. UM, SO JUST SO YOU KNOW, UM, BY STATE LAW, IF A PLAT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS IN THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THERE ARE NO VARIANCES, THE COMMISSION HAS TO APPROVE THE PLAT, WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE. SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S THE STATE LAW, SO I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THAT. BUT FEEL FREE TO TALK TO STORMWATER, UM, AND THEY'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. ALL RIGHT. UH, [Plats  ] NO MORE, NO MORE ITEMS TO TALK ABOUT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. SO AT THIS TIME, WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION SUPPORT THE, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS OF STAFF. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ETTE STAFF. PLEASE DO A ROLL CALL. VOTE. COMMISSIONER GARCIA? YES. COMMISSIONER ETTE? YES. COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? YES. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES. CHAIR PECK? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. ALL RIGHT. WE WILL MOVE ON [Comprehensive Master Plan Amendments  ] TO ITEM NUMBER SIX. GOOD AFTERNOON. ALEX RATANA PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER SIX IS A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE NEAR NORTHWEST COMMUNITY PLAN. FROM URBAN LOAD DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO REGIONAL COMMERCIAL LOCATED AT 10 10 WARNER AVENUE. THERE WERE 21 NOTICES MAILED FIVE IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED WITHIN 200 FEET. KEYSTONE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IN SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS DISTRICT ONE RESIDENT ASSOCIATION [00:10:01] GAVE NO RESPONSE. THERE ARE THREE IN FAVOR OUTSIDE THE 200 FEET. THE PROPOSED PLAN AMENDMENT FROM URBAN LOAD DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO REGIONAL COMMERCIAL IS REQUESTED TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO C3 CD GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR OVERSIZED VEHICLE STORAGE. THE EXISTING URBAN LOAD DENSITY PERMITS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE, WHICH IS CHARACTERISTIC OF THE EXISTING SURROUNDING AREA. THERE ARE A COUPLE MODERATE COMMERCIAL USES WITHIN THE PROXIMITY OF THE PROPERTY, BUT STAFF FINDS THE PROPOSED REGIONAL COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION, WHICH SUPPORTS LARGE SCALE COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE BUDDING LAND USES. INTRODUCING THE DESIGNATION TO THE AREA WOULD ALLOW HIGH INTENSE COMMERCIAL ENCROACHMENT INTO THE ESTABLISHED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THIS CASE WENT TO ZONING COMMISSION ON SEPTEMBER 3RD, 2024, WHERE ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THE APPLICANT LIKE TO APPROACH THE PODIUM. HELLO? UM, MY NAME IS MRS. MARTIN. I LIVE OVER 20 YEARS. THIS ADDRESS 1 2 5 1 WEST LINWOOD AVENUE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 0 1 AND TEN TEN ONE AVENUE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 0 1 IS BEHIND MY HOUSE AND IS, UH, IS IN A FLOOD ZONE. THEN I DO THE LIMITED CONSTRUCTION ON THAT PART. THAT'S WHY I'M THINKING TO IMPROVE THE LAND AND YOU KNOW, I HAVE THE, LIKE SOME TENANT ASK ME ABOUT FOR RENT AND I SAY LIKE, LET ME, YEAH, THAT'S FINE. YOU KNOW, AND I ASKED MY REALTOR AND THEY SAY, MR. MARTIN C3 ZONING, HE CAN DO THE STORAGE FACILITY. THEN WHAT IS THE OVERSIGHT? AND I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT FOR THAT PART. AND I GET THE CITATION FROM CITI AND I APPLIED TO CITI. AND THE LAST, I, LAST, LAST TIME I HAD A ZONING COMMIT COM COMMITMENT MEETING AND THEY RECOMMEND TO APRIL. AND I ASKED MY NEIGHBORHOOD AROUND 200 FEET FROM MY LAND ALSO. AND THEY SAY, MRS. MARTIN, IF YOU UM, IMPROVE THE LAND, WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM. I ASKED THE DIS LIKE, UH, DISTRICT OFFICE ALSO, AND THEY DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM. ALSO, IF YOU CAN HELP ME FOR THAT PART, THEN YOU KNOW, AT LEAST I CAN IMPROVE THE PROPERTY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. GREAT. THANK YOU. MM-HMM, . OKAY. UM, WE WILL MOVE ON TO COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS. WE WILL START ON THE LEFT WITH COMMISSIONER LOPEZ, UH, FOR STAFF. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A, A BILLBOARD ON THE SITE. DOES THAT, WAS THAT PRE-EXISTING? LIKE THE HOTEL WAS, I GUESS IS BECAUSE THAT'S NOT A RESIDENTIAL YEAST, RIGHT? CORRECT. YES SIR. WHEN, WHEN WAS THIS PLAN? HOW OLD IS THE PLAN FOR THIS SECTION? THE PLAN IS, WAS ADOPTED IN FEBRUARY OF 2002. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT 22 YEARS. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GARCIA. MY QUESTION IS THE STAFF THAT IS THERE AN HOA IN THIS AREA, THE KEY THERE IS THE KEYSTONE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THEN, UM, A RESIDENT ASSOCIATION, THE SAN ANTONIO TEXAS DISTRICT ONE RESIDENT. IT'S A COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION, BUT NEITHER ONE OF THEM RESPONDED TO OUR LETTERS THAT WE SENT OUT. COMMISSIONER ETTE, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS IS GONNA BE USED FOR A TRAILER STORAGE. IS THAT CORRECT? IS THAT STILL STAND? YES. AND THE SECOND QUESTION IS, IS MY UNDERSTANDING FROM STAFF, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THAT THE ONLY ACCESS THAT'S GONNA BE ALLOWED AT THIS POINT IS GONNA BE OFF WARNER AVENUE, NOT OFF THE I 10 FEEDER? CORRECT. UM, WE DID SEND THIS ITEM TO TXDOT SINCE THEY REGULATE IH 10 AND THE FEEDER ROADS AND THEY, WITH THEIR INITIAL, UM, ITEM HAD REQUESTED THAT NO ACCESS IS COMING OFF OF THE FEEDER. SO, BUT THAT IS BETWEEN THE, UH, APPLICANT AND TDOT. I'M SORRY, I, I, UM, ACTUALLY THIS CAME ACROSS MY DESK LIKE AN HOUR, AN HOUR AGO. I'M SORRY. OTHERWISE I WOULD'VE LIKE FILLED IN THE REST OF THE STAFF ON THIS. UM, SO I DID TALK TO TDOT ABOUT THIS. THE, UM, THEY ARE NOT SET IN STONE ON THE LACK OF ACCESS RIGHT NOW. IT DOES NOT MEET ACCESS SPACING REQUIREMENTS. UM, BUT A LOT OF IT REALLY DEPENDS ON HOW THIS ENDS UP PROGRESSING THROUGH. UM, AS TO WHETHER OR NOT, UH, THE ACCESS IS GONNA BE PROVIDED AND SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT IT TOGETHER WITH T. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE? COMMISSIONER? COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? UH, NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY. UM, SO I HAVE A QUESTION AND A COMMENT I GUESS. UM, SO MY COMMENT IS I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE [00:15:01] A PROBLEM WITH THE PROPOSED USE OF THE LAND. YOU KNOW, WHAT THE INDIVIDUAL'S TRYING TO DO. WHAT I DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IS THE REGIONAL COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION. 'CAUSE UM, REGIONAL COMMERCIAL DOESN'T FIT IN THE AREA CONSIDERING THE SURROUNDING LAND USES. UM, AND THE PROPERTY ITSELF DOES NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF REGIONAL COMMERCIAL. IT'S REALLY SMALL REGIONAL COMMERCIALS, LIKE 20 ACRES MINIMUM. UM, AND I'M AFRAID, UH, WE SEE A LOT OF THESE AROUND THE CITY WHERE SOMEONE HAS A QUARTER ACRE PIECE OF LAND AND THEY WANT REGIONAL COMMERCIAL IN THE MIDDLE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD. AND, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ALWAYS SAY, WELL, IT DOESN'T FIT BECAUSE IT'S LESS THAN THE ACREAGE REQUIREMENT OR, OR NOT EVEN CLOSE TO THE ACREAGE REQUIREMENT. SO I'M AFRAID THAT BY DOING THIS, ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'VE OPENED PANDORA'S BOX AND YOU'RE CREATING AN ISSUE DOWN THE LINE. SO IS THERE ANOTHER LAND USE DESIGNATION THAT WOULD ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO THAT IS NOT REGIONAL COMMERCIAL? THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THEY WOULD HAVE TO DOWN ZONE AGAIN, THEIR EXISTING C3 AND IT SADLY IS NONCONFORMING WITH THE EXISTING, UH, LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. UM, THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THEY WOULD HAVE TO AGAIN, HAVE TO DOWN ZONE TO EITHER LIKE A C ONE OR A C TWO, WHICH ARE ITEMS PERMITTED IN POTENTIALLY COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL, WHICH DOESN'T HAVE THE SIZE, UH, REGULATIONS AS REGIONAL COMMERCIAL TYPICALLY ASKS FOR. UM, THE ONLY CONCERN WITH THAT IS THIS WOULD HAVE TO RESTART, UM, MS. MARTIN'S, UM, PROJECT OR APPLICATION. OKAY. BUT IT COULD BE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL WOULD WORK FOR WHAT SHE'S TRYING TO DO. IF SHE WANTS TO GO WITH THE C TWO C, THEN THERE'S ANOTHER ZONING, RIGHT? CORRECT. AND AGAIN, IT'S, SHE'S EXISTING C3, SO DOWN ZONING TO C TWO, SHE COULD LOSE CERTAIN USES, SO THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE UP TO THE APPLICANT. OKAY. THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS. ANY MORE QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS? MEREDITH, ARE YOU GOOD? I'M GOOD. OKAY. UH, WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. WE MOTION TO VOTE ON THIS. WHAT, WHAT IS THE MOTION? IS IT TO ACCEPT STAFF'S DENIAL OR, OR, UH, FOR APPROVAL OF THAT MOTION TO ACCEPT STAFF'S DENIAL OR APPROVAL OF THIS MO OF THIS ITEM. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO DENY THE APPLICATION BY COMMISSIONER GOULETTE. SECOND. WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SIEGEL. ALL RIGHT. DO UH, S PLEASE DO A ROLL CALL VOTE. OKAY. COMMISSIONER ETTE? NO SIR. IT WOULD BE A YES FOR YOUR MOTION TO YES. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES. COMMISSIONER GARCIA? YES. COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? NO. OKAY. UM, CHAIR PECK. YES. SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN ORDER TO TAKE FINAL ACTION ON AN ITEM REQUIRES A MINIMUM OF FIVE VOTES. SO WITH THAT FOUR TO ONE, THERE IS NO CURRENT ACTION ON THE ITEM. SO WE CAN SUBMIT ANOTHER MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, MISS, UH, COMMISSIONER LOPEZ COULD POTENTIALLY SUBMIT A MOTION TO RECONSIDER IF HE FEELS THE NEED TO DO SO WITH THE OTHER COMMISSION'S, UH, COMMENTS OR THIS WILL BE AUTOMATICALLY MOVED TO THE NEXT PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA IF THERE'S NO ACTION TAKEN ON AT THIS TIME. OKAY. WELL, I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO COMMISSIONER LOPEZ IF HE WANTS TO TRY ANOTHER MOTION OR JUST LET IT ROLL TO THE NEXT MEETING. NO, FRANKLY, WITH THE DISCUSSION THAT Y'ALL HAD HAD ABOUT SOME OTHER OPTIONS, IT SEEMED TO ME THAT WE SHOULD GIVE THEM ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO STAFF. AND SO IF THE EFFECT OF THIS IS THAT WE END UP BEING CONTINUED TO THE NEXT MEETING, I THINK THAT CREATES THE TIME. THAT WAS MY INTENTION, WAS TO CREATE SOME MORE TIME TO SEE IF THEY COULD FIND A SOLUTION. SO I'M HAPPY WITH STANDING WHERE WE ARE. OKAY, THANK YOU. I AGREE WITH THAT. ALRIGHT, SO, UH, THIS ITEM WILL BE MOVED TO THE OCTOBER, WHAT IS IT, NINTH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? YEAH, NO, NO ACTION TAKEN AT THIS MOMENT. RIGHT, RIGHT. OKAY, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. UH, WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. GOOD AFTERNOON. BRONTE FRE PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE TEXAS A AND M SAN ANTONIO AREA REGIONAL CENTER PLAN FROM AGRICULTURAL TO RESIDENTIAL STATE, LOCATED AT 2 2 5 NE ROAD, THERE WERE SEVEN NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED. AND THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD [00:20:01] ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET. THE APPLICANT SEEKS A PLAN AMENDMENT TO RESIDENTIAL ESTATE TO REZONE THE R 20 TO REZONE TO R 20 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT. THE PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL ESTATE IS INAPPROPRIATE AND INCONSISTENT WITH THE BUDDING LAND. USES. THE EXISTING AGRICULTURAL LAND USE IS INTENDED TO PRESERVE AGRICULTURAL AREAS AND PROTECT NATURAL RESOURCES, WHICH IS CHARACTERISTIC OF ALARM FAR LARGE. FARM AND RANCH USES EXISTING AND SURROUNDING AREA. THE ADDITION OF RESIDENTIAL ESTATE LAND USE TO THE AREA WOULD INTRODUCE THE POTENTIAL FOR INCREASED DENSITY OF RESIDENTIAL USES IN THE AREA. THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN DEVELOPED FOR SINGLE FAMILY USE, WHICH IS PERMITTED IN THE CURRENT RP RESOURCE PROTECTION DISTRICT AND THE EXISTING AGRICULTURAL LAND USE. THE APPLICANT RE SEEKS THE LAND USE CHANGE AND REZONING IN ORDER TO REPL THE PROPERTY. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT'S REP REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO APPROACH THE PODIUM NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? SO, MY NAME IS JOSHUA GARCIA AND I LIVE ON 2 2 5 NEIL ROAD, THE LOT IN QUESTION. UH, SO I'M JUST GONNA GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THIS LOT. UM, IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE SINCE 1970S. AND, UM, WITH THE ONE HOUSE ON IT, UH, HOUSE NUMBER ONE ON THE PRESENTATION, YOU CAN SEE TO THE LEFT. SO IT'S NEVER BEEN AGRICULTURAL USE SINCE THE SEVENTIES. UH, MY PARENTS LIVED NEXT DOOR SINCE THE SEVENTIES, AND THAT'S ALSO MY CHILDHOOD HOME. I, I GREW UP NEXT DOOR. UM, IN MAY OF 2017, UH, WE SOLD OUR FAMILY HOME BECAUSE MY PARENTS HAD BOUGHT THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR. WHEN WE WENT INTO FORECLOSURE, I LIVED IN TOWN, WE SOLD OUR HOUSE AND WE WERE GONNA BUILD A SECOND HOUSE ON THAT PROPERTY AND THEN SPLIT IT IN HALF. AT THAT TIME, IT WAS OUTSIDE CITY LIMITS, SO THERE WERE NO RESTRICTIONS AS FAR AS ZONING OR THE LAND PLAN. SO I BEGAN BUILDING, UM, LATER THAT YEAR. THE CITY ANNEXED IT. I WAS ALMOST COMPLETE WITH THE HOUSE, BUT THEY ANNEXED IT. AND THE LAND PLAN, UH, CAME INTO EFFECT IN ZONING. SO, UH, THE MAJORITY OF OUR HOUSE WAS COMPLETED BEFORE THE CITY ANNEXATION. SO MY INTENTION IS TO SPLIT IT IN HALF BECAUSE AT THIS POINT IT'S JUST A HOUSE ON MY PARENTS' PROPERTY. SO WE'VE SPENT ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FROM OUR LAST HOUSE AND ADDITIONAL MONEY, BUT I CANNOT OWN IT UNLESS I SPLIT IT IN HALF AND THEN I CAN GET A MORTGAGE ON IT. UM, SO THAT'S MY INTENTION. UM, NEXT PAGE PLEASE. ON THE, SO JUST AS A SUMMARY, THE HISTORICAL USE OF THIS LOT, AND ACTUALLY BOTH LOTS NEXT TO IT IS RESIDENTIAL SINCE THE SEVENTIES AND IT'S NEVER BEEN AGRICULTURAL. UM, THE CURRENT USE IS TWO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON THE LOT IN QUESTION. THE EXISTING ONE SINCE THE SEVENTIES, AND THE ONE I BUILT IN 2017, THE PROPOSED USE IS THE SAME, THE SAME TWO HOUSES, THERE WILL BE, UH, NO CHANGE. UM, SO IT'S NOT USED FOR AGRICULTURE. UH, THERE'S NO PROPOSED INCREASE IN DENSITY. THE DENSITY MATCHES BOTH ADJACENT LOTS. THE ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF RESIDENTIAL ZONING LAST WEEK, AND THEY SAID IT WAS AN OPEN SHUT CASE AND THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY STAFF WOULD DENY IT. THAT WAS THEIR WORDS. SO, UM, I JUST ASK THAT YOU WOULD KINDLY, UM, ACCEPT MY REQUEST, UM, TO ALLOW THIS TO BE ZONED RE 20, THEN I CAN SPLIT THE LAND AND ACTUALLY OWN IT, GET A MORTGAGE TO BUILD ON IT, BECAUSE IT WAS ONLY LIKE 400 SQUARE FEET. NOW IT'S 800, BUT IN THE END, WE WANT IT TO BE ABOUT 1400. STILL A MODEST HOME, BUT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET A MORTGAGE ON IT TO DO THAT. UM, THE OTHER THING I JUST WANNA POINT OUT IS IT'S CURRENTLY RESOURCE PROTECTION ZONED, AND THAT REQUIRES A MINIMUM 10 ACRES, WHICH THIS IS 2.6. SO THE CURRENT ZONING DOESN'T REALLY MAKE SENSE EITHER. UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND I, UH, SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT YES, HE DID GO TO SPEAK AND THAT THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. THE FIRST PERSON IS WESTON MARTINEZ, I BELIEVE. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. UH, BEFORE I GET STARTED, DID STAFF UM, REMOVE THE PROJECTOR AND IS IT NOT COMING BACK? WHAT DO YOU MEAN? THE PROJECTOR THAT USED TO BE HERE FOR US TO PROVIDE DOCUMENTS? NO, UH, IT'S, WE STILL HAVE THE PROJECTOR, THE CEILING. OKAY, GREAT. AWESOME. I DIDN'T KNOW. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. UH, MY NAME IS WESTON MARTINEZ, RESIDENT OF SAN ANTONIO. UH, ADDRESS 1 4 5 4 6 BROOK HOLLOW, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 3 2. AND HAVE BEEN A LANDOWNER AND, UH, RESIDENT OF THE AREA FOR 48 YEARS. UH, I AM ALSO, UH, PRESIDENT OF THE STARBRITE OVERLOOK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THAT HAS BEEN PROPERLY FORMED WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. UM, I MET WITH THE CITY TODAY TO ASK THEM WHERE THE, UH, FINAL APPLICATION, UH, AND APPROVAL OF PROCESS WAS FOR THAT. UH, THEY WERE VERY POLITE [00:25:01] AND VERY PROFESSIONAL. AND SO THAT WOULD BE, UH, COMING FORTH WITH, UM, I WILL TELL YOU THAT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ENCOMPASSES ABOUT 40,000 ACRES, UM, AND ENCOMPASSES, UH, LARGER THAN THE TOYOTA TWO YEAR, TWO MILE PLAN. AND I WOULD SAY THAT AS WE WERE WORKING THROUGH THE STARBRIGHT AGREEMENT RECENTLY, UH, STAFF ASSURED US THAT ANYONE THAT CAME BEFORE THE COMMISSION TO HAVE A CHANGE WOULD BE APPROVED AND WOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE, ESPECIALLY IF IT WAS INCONSISTENCY WITH KIND OF ADDITIONAL, UH, EXISTING USE. AND AS A FORMER TEXAS REAL ESTATE COMMISSIONER, I CAN TELL YOU THAT WHEN WE HAVE PROPERTY RIGHTS IN TEXAS AND A LANDOWNER THAT CANNOT DO WHAT HE WANTS TO DO, UH, WE HAVE, UH, S SEVERE ISSUES IN THE AREA. AND, UH, I'M THANKFUL FOR ALL THE STAFF'S WORK AND I'M THANKFUL FOR YOU GUYS, UH, LOOKING THROUGH AS YOU DO ON A REGULAR BASIS AND SEEING THAT THE, THIS SAN ANTONIO SHOULD BE ABLE TO ADD A HOME TO HIS FAMILY'S LAND SO THAT HE CAN COME IN AND LIVE THE AMERICAN DREAM. UM, THERE'S MUCH MORE THAT WE CAN SAY ABOUT THAT IN THE REMAINING ONE MINUTE AND 35 SECONDS. BUT OUT OF RESPECT FOR YOUR TIME, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT THE, AS PRESIDENT OF THE SOON TO BE APPROVED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, UM, WE ARE IN FULL SUPPORT OF THIS RESIDENT AND WHAT HE IS DESIRING TO DO. AND, UH, THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR TIME. AND, UH, I DID THINK THAT THE STAFF LADY THAT WAS HERE WHEN I FIRST WALKED IN, I THOUGHT IT WAS TERRY BREL WORKING NOW FOR PLANNING. SO THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A THROWBACK FOR ME. AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. AND WE APPROVE. THANK YOU. UH, NEXT PERSON IS DAVID TREVINO. NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. HI, I'M DAVID TREVINO. MY ADDRESS IS 5 96 MERRIMAN ROAD, UH, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 2 4. UH, WHERE, UH, I AM VICE PRESIDENT OF THE SAME ASSOCIATION THAT MR. WEST WAS SPEAKING OF, THE SAN STARBRITE SOUTH OVERLOOK, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. AND WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS APPROVED FOR THIS LANDOWNER. UH, IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO NOT APPROVE IT. IT'S A RESIDENTIAL HOME. HE IS NOT ASKING FOR AN INCREASED IN DENSITY. HE'S NOT ASKING TO CHANGE THE USE AT ALL. ALL HE'S ASKING TO DO IS DRAW A MERIT ANDARY LINE ON HIS PROPERTY, ON THAT PROPERTY SO THEY CAN SPLIT IT UP AND HE COULD HAVE THE AMERICAN DREAM. IT DOESN'T AFFECT THE NEIGHBORS, IT DOESN'T AFFECT ANYTHING AT ALL, BUT THEIR OWN PERSONAL, UH, PROPERTY WEALTH AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO, UH, WE'RE VERY MUCH IMPROVED. UH, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR SEVERAL REASONS, MAINLY BECAUSE HE DOESN'T QUALIFY FOR AN AG EXEMPT. HE'S NOT 10 ACRES. HE'S NOT ASKING FOR AN AG EXEMPT, HE'S NOT ASKING TO BUILD OTHER HOMES. HE'S JUST ASKING TO EXTEND AND BUILD A LARGER HOME AND OWN IT IN HIS OWN NAME. SO THIS REALLY, UH, IS, IT SHOULD BE A VERY SIMPLE CASE OF LETTING THE PERSON REPL THEIR LAND AND USE IT IN THE APPROPRIATE WAY THAT THEY, THEY SEE. UM, AND WE DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT MORE TO ADD. I THINK THAT WE HAVE, WE SUPPORT THE OWNER AND WE'RE GONNA BE, UH, SUPPORTING, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE AREA. OH, YES, YES. THIS WAS ALSO THIS PROPERTY, LIKE THE OWNER SAID THIS WAS ALREADY IN PLACE, UH, BEFORE ALL THESE PLANS WERE, UH, DESIGNED. AND I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT THAT PLAN, THAT RE THAT LAND USE PLAN LOOKS VERY RANDOMLY DRAWN. UH, THE WAY IT, IT HAS AGRICULTURAL OR THESE RESOURCE PROTECTION, UH, THE ENTIRE AREA OF, OF, UH, LA SOYA MARTINEZ, THE NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT OFF 25 37 IS, UH, UH, RESOURCE PROTECTION. IT'S NOTHING BUT RESIDENTIAL HOMES. SO THIS, I THINK THIS MAP NEEDS SOME CON CONSIDERATION. ALSO, THIS LAND USE MAP, IT, IT WAS DRAWN, JUST SEEMED RLY, SOMEBODY JUST CONNECTING DOTS. IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. LIKE A LOT OF THINGS I'VE SEEN ONCE SINCE I'M INVOLVED IN CITY POLITICS. BUT, UM, UH, WE REALLY HOPE TO SUPPORT THIS LANDOWNER AND ANY OTHER LANDOWNERS THEY WANNA DO APPROPRIATE USE OF THEIR PROPERTY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. THAT'S EVERYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, SO WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVE TO COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS. WE'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER LOPEZ. UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE I'VE SAID BEFORE, THIS IS, THIS IS THE TYPE OF, OF I THINK, YOU KNOW, UM, SMALL CORRECTION THAT'S NECESSARY. THIS BOARD IS GOOD FOR, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU SEE A LAND USE PLAN THAT GOES AND, AND PUTS AN OVERLAY DOWN, AND THEN YOU SEE A VERY UNIQUE SITUATION LIKE THIS ON A FAMILY SITUATION. I, I, I THINK THIS IS SENSIBLE. UM, THE CHALLENGES THAT, LIKE YOU MENTIONED EARLIER, THE COMMISSIONS HAVE MENTIONED EARLIER, IS THAT, UM, IT KIND OF BECOMES A ROLLING, UH, CHANGE THAT KIND OF, THE EXCEPTIONS FOLLOWS THE RULE, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE CASE HERE. I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, THIS MAKES SENSE FOR THIS FAMILY AND FOR THIS LAND AND FOR THIS PART OF THE WORLD. SO I'LL BE SUPPORTING IT. COMMISSIONER GARCIA? I AGREE. [00:30:01] I'LL BE COMMISSIONER ROULETTE. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL, NO QUESTIONS. UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST. OKAY. WE DO HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST, AND I WOULD LIKE TO JUST ECHO COMMISSIONER LOPEZ, COMMISSIONER GARCIA, AND EVERYBODY'S COMMENTS THAT THIS IS, SEEMS LIKE A, SEEMS LIKE A LOGICAL THING TO DO TO ME, AND I'LL BE IN FAVOR OF THIS ITEM. UH, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ETTE, UH, STAFF, PLEASE DO A ROLL CALL. VOTE. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES. COMMISSIONER ETTE? YES. COMMISSIONER GARCIA? YES. COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? YES. AND CHAIR? UH, CHAIR PECK? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. GREAT. ALL RIGHT. UH, MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER NINE. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS SAMANTHA BENAVIDES, PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER NINE IS A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE NORTHWEST COMMUNITY PLAN FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL LOCATED AT 56 50 CLIFF BRIAR DRIVE. THERE WERE 30 NOTICES MAILED ONE IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED WITHIN 200 FEET. AND THE GREAT NORTHWEST HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST. THE APPLICANT SEEKS A PLAN AMENDMENT TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL TO REZONE TO C TWO CD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR AUTO AND LIGHT TRUCK REPAIR. GIVEN THE PROXIMITY TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES, STAFF FINDS THAT THE PROPERTY DOES NOT MEET THE LOCATIONAL CRITERIA FOR THIS TYPE OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. ADDITIONALLY, INTRODUCING THE PROPOSED LAND USE CATEGORY OF COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL WOULD INCREASE THE POTENTIAL FOR COMMERCIAL ENCROACHMENT INTO THE ABUTTING ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THE APPLICANT LIKE TO APPROACH THE PODIUM NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. VERONICA BZA. AND THE PROPERTY IS, UH, 56 50 CLIFF BRIAR. AND, UM, I KNOW THAT SHE SAID THAT WE'RE, UH, APPLYING TO CHANGE IT. THE ONLY THING WE WERE DOING WAS APPLYING FOR A CONDITIONAL USE. IT'S ALREADY A C TWO, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT SHE IS REFERRING TO AS FAR AS A RESIDENT. UH, MAYBE SHE WAS REFERRING TO CHANGING THE LAND USE DESIGNATION FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IT CURRENTLY IS TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE HEARING AT THIS COMMISSION TODAY. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ZONING HERE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LAND USE DESIGNATION. OKAY. SO, SO THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS ARE TWO DIFFERENT, I'M SORRY, I'M NEW TO ALL THIS. SO YEAH, THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. OKAY. ALRIGHTY. SO, UM, WE, SO WE'RE PROPOSING FOR, UH, CONDITIONAL WAIVER FOR, UH, TO BE ABLE TO DO LIGHT AUTO AND TRUCK REPAIR. SO AT THE TIME WE CAN DO EVERYTHING BUT THAT AND, AND SO WE'RE, OR LEASING THE PROPERTY. AND, UM, WE, THE PROPERTY'S BEEN RE UM, IT, IT, SO THE NEW OWNERS HAVE GONE IN THERE, THEY'VE DONE LANDSCAPING. THE BUILDING HAS UH, BEEN UPDATED. THERE'S A PARKING LOT. SO IT'S A WHOLE, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE GONNA HAVE SECURITY CAMERAS. SO WE FEEL LIKE IF WE, YOU KNOW, BRING THIS TO THE COMMUNITY, IT COULD HELP WITH THE CRIME THAT HAPPENS IN THIS AREA. UH, MORE TRAFFIC AND JUST A, A NEW BUSINESS FOR THE COMMUNITY. WE'VE MET WITH THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. THEY ARE, UH, FOR IT. UH, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA BE PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND, UH, BE PART THANK YOU, UH, YOU KNOW, HELP OUT ON IN THE COMMUNITY AND CONTRIBUTE TO IT. , THAT'S ALL I GOT. ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. ALRIGHT. UM, THERE IS NOBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, SO WE'LL MOVE TO COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS. WE'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER SIEGEL. I WASN'T AWARE WE HAD TO SIGN UP TO, UH, TO SPEAK. THERE WAS NEVER ANYBODY SAYING WE NEED TO SIGN UP. I, WHEN I GET BUMPED IN HERE, NO ONE ASKED ME WHY I WAS HERE OR ANYTHING. I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON IT. DID YOU COME IN AFTER THE MEETING STARTED? NO, I WAS HERE BEFORE THE MEETING STARTED. OKAY. UM, OKAY. WE WILL ALLOW YOU TO SPEAK. YOU CAN STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. MY NAME IS BRIAN MCKIBBON. I LIVE AT 93 0 6 PINE VILLAGE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 5. OH. MY PROPERTY [00:35:01] IS, WELL, THEIR PROPERTY IS RIGHT BEHIND MY PROPERTY. MY BACK FENCE GOES RIGHT UP TO THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION. AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. IT'S PER CURRENTLY, UH, AND MY UNDERSTANDING, LOW DENSITY, UH, RESIDENTIAL WOULD BE LIKE TOWNHOUSES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. NOW, I NEVER IN MY WILDEST DREAMS THAT I EVER THINK A SHOP WOULD BE BUILT BACK THERE. THE FIRST PEOPLE WHO OWNED THE PROPERTY DID DAMAGE TO MY PROPERTY. UH, THEY NEVER PAVED THE LOT. THEY WERE VERY BAD, , VERY BAD NEIGHBORS. THEY MADE A LOT OF NOISES AND, AND JUST DIDN'T TAKE CARE OF THE PROPERTY. NOW I WILL ADMIT THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS. THESE NEW PEOPLE HAVE, THEY'VE PUT CURBING UP, THEY'VE PAVED A LOT, BUT IT'S STILL, IT'S A BUSINESS IN MY BACKYARD THAT HURTS MY PROPERTY VALUES. I HAVE TWO VACANT LOTS NEXT DOOR TO ME THAT ARE RESIDENTIAL AND ARE NOT BUILT ON YET, AND MAY NEVER BECAUSE OF THIS BEING RIGHT BEHIND THEIR PROPERTY. IF I HAD KNOWN THAT WAS GONNA BE THERE, I PROBABLY WOULD NOT HAVE BOUGHT THAT HOUSE TO BEGIN WITH. I LOVE THE HOUSE, I LOVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT I DON'T CARE TO HAVE A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS IN MY BACKYARD. I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT IT WAS ACTUALLY, IT WAS ZONED AS AN EASEMENT WHEN I FIRST BOUGHT MY PROPERTY 17 YEARS AGO. UH, SO IT WAS A BIG SURPRISE TO ME THAT A BUSINESS WAS ACTUALLY EV EVER BUILT THERE. AND, UH, I'M JUST TOTALLY AGAINST THIS BUSINESS BEING PUT IN THERE. NOT, NOT BECAUSE OF THE PEOPLE OWNING IT BECAUSE THEY, LIKE I SAY, THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS I ADMIT, BUT IT'S, I DON'T CARE TO HAVE A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS BACK RIGHT IN MY BACKYARD PRACTICALLY. AND THAT'S MY POSITION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY, WE'LL MOVE ON TO COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS, STARTING WITH COMMISSIONER SIEGEL. UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. NO. OKAY. COMMISSIONER ETTE? NO QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER GARCIA? NO QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER LOPEZ. UM, THIS IS A QUICK STAFF QUESTION. SO RIGHT AROUND THE FRONT IN COLLIBRA, IT'S EVERYTHING'S NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT. AND SO THE PROPO, THEY'RE REQUESTED USE, WOULD THAT FIT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL? NO. UM, C TWO DOESN'T IS NOT PERMITTED IN NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL. HENCE WHY THEY WERE ASKING FOR THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL AND THIS FOR THE APPLICANT. DID Y'ALL DO ALL THIS CONSTRUCTION WITHOUT HAVING CONFIRMED THIS ZONING AND PLANNING RELATED REQUIREMENTS? YEAH. I'D LOVE TO HEAR IF YOU'LL JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. UM, MARK QUERO, UH, REPRESENTING THE OWNER FOR 5 6 5 0 CLIFF BRIAR. UM, THE NEW OWNER THAT CAME IN, UH, HE PURCHASED THE LAND THAT ALREADY HAD A BUILDING ON IT. UH, WE LOOKED AT WHAT WE COULD DO WITH THE BUILDING, JUST PRETTY MUCH MODIFIED WHAT WAS IN THE INSIDE PARKING LOT, CURB CUTS. EVERYTHING WAS DONE EXCEPT, UH, A, A SEWER TAP AND AN IRRIGATION LINE. UH, THE MAIN WATER LINE WAS ALREADY ATTACHED, SO IT WAS PRETTY MUCH BEAUTIFYING WHAT WAS THERE. IT WAS PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE DID. UH, WE LOOKED AT THE ZONING AT THE BEGINNING IT WAS C TWO. UH, THE NEW, UH, LEASER IS LOOKING FOR A C TWO, UH, MINOR TRUCK REPAIR, BUT IT STILL STAYS A C TWO. UM, WE DID, I DID GO THROUGH ZONING TRAFFIC, THE WHOLE IT, BELIEVE ME, IT TOOK ALMOST A YEAR TO GET THROUGH ALL THE PAPERWORK. ORIGINALLY IT WAS APPROVED BY PAPER AND THEN IT GOT TRANSFERRED TO COMPUTERS. SO WE HAD TO RELOOK AT PRINTOUT THE WHOLE NINE YARDS. SO WE DID TALK TO EVERYBODY THAT WAS INVOLVED FOR THE SLOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE GOOD TO GO WITH WHATEVER WAS THE C TWO. AND THAT'S WHAT THE OWNER WAS LOOKING AT FOR THE LEASE PORTIONS. UM, IT DID BACK, IT DOES BACK UP TO A GAS STATION, UH, UH, A LITTLE SHOPPING CENTER, GAS STATION AND A RESTAURANT. UH, ZACHARY MIDDLE SCHOOL IS ACROSS THE STREET. UH, THAT, THAT RIGHT THERE IS PRETTY MUCH WHAT RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET IS THE TENNIS COURT AND RIGHT BEHIND US, THE IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITH THE LANDSCAPE. WE WORKED REALLY HARD WITH THE LANDSCAPER, UH, REVIEW PERSON TO MAKE SURE THAT SINCE WE WERE BACKING UP TO THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE, EXTRA ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE WAS, WAS DONE BETWEEN THE, THE PROPERTY. WE ACTUALLY HAD TO DO AN, AN ADDITIONAL SETBACK TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE TREES THAT COULD GROW THERE TO CREATE A GOOD BARRIER BETWEEN THE, THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE COMMERCIAL SIDE. BUT YES, EVERYTHING I THINK WAS ADDRESSED. YEAH. THANK YOU. SO, SO IT EXISTED, IT'S LOW DENSITY BUT IT'S STILL GRANDFATHERED IN. SO THEY, THERE'S A BAND OF COMMERCIAL USE THAT THEY CAN DO ON THAT PROPERTY, RIGHT? CORRECT. UM, A PRETTY WIDE ONE. AS HE STATED. THIS PROPERTY IS EXISTING C TWO. UM, HE'S JUST HAVING TO GO THROUGH THIS REZONING TO ADD THAT CONDITIONAL USE FOR THE AUTO AND LIGHT TRUCK REPAIR. BUT YOU ARE CORRECT, THERE ARE A MULTITUDE OF ZONING OR, UM, COMMERCIAL USES THAT ARE PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN C TWO AND THAT, AND THAT REMAINS REGARDLESS OF THIS CHANGE. CORRECT. STORAGE DOWN THERE ALSO. IS THAT, IS THAT, IS PUBLIC STORAGE AVAILABLE? UM, I BELIEVE SELF STORAGE, YES. YES. BUT NOT LIKE WAREHOUSING. SO. OKAY. THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION. THANKS. [00:40:02] AWESOME. AND I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, SO IS THERE ANY FURTHER COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS? IF NOT, WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST. THAT WAS, IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY. BY COMMISSIONER ETTE. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA STAFF, PLEASE DO A ROLL CALL. VOTE. COMMISSIONER ETTE. YES. COMMISSIONER GARCIA? YES. COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? YES. UH, COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES. CHAIR PECK? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. ALL RIGHT. ITEM 10. ALEXA RATANA PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER 10 IS A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE SOUTH CENTRAL SAN ANTONIO COMMUNITY PLAN FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, LOCATED AT TWO 40 HAWTHORNE STREET AND 1 2 2 ORANGE STREET. THERE WERE 64 NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR, SEVEN OPPOSED WITHIN 200 FEET. ST. LEO'S NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION GAVE NO RESPONSE AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE OUTSIDE THE 200 FEET. THE PROPOSED PLAN AMENDMENT FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IS REQUESTED TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO MF 25 IDZ MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICT WITH AN INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE OVERLAY. THE EXISTING LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL PERMIT, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES, WHICH IS CHARACTERISTIC OF THE EXISTING SURROUNDING AREA. STAFF FINDS THE PROPOSED HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DESIGNATION, WHICH SUPPORTS MORE INTENSE RESIDENTIAL USES, INCONSISTENT WITH THE BUDDING LAND USES. INTRODUCING THE DESIGNATION TO THE AREA WOULD ALLOW AN INCONSISTENT LAND USE DENSITY INTO THE ESTABLISHED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. PATRICK CHRISTENSEN, THREE 15 EAST COMMERCE SUITE 3 0 4 HERE ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER, ARMAND ADA. UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THIS PROPERTY, IT'S, IT'S SORT OF DIFFICULT. THE, THERE USED TO BE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME WHERE THE DRIVEWAY IS ON THIS, UH, SITE PLAN, UH, TWO 40 HAWTHORNE, AND THEN THERE'S THIS, THIS LOT BEHIND IT. CAN YOU SHOW THE, UM, PLAN AMENDMENT EXHIBIT? ABSOLUTELY. THAT MIGHT BE EASIER. THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE A POINTER UP HERE? UM, WE DON'T HAVE A POINTER. OKAY. WELL I'LL JUST TALK. SO YOU SEE THERE'S THE BIG KIND OF RECTANGLE THAT GOES FROM EAST TO WEST THERE. AND THEN BELOW THAT, AT SOME POINT IN TIME IT WAS ALL ONE BLOCK. ONE, I'M SORRY, ONE LOT. SOMEBODY DIVIDED IT UP. YEARS AGO, MY CLIENT TRIED TO SEE IF HE COULD PURCHASE THAT. 'CAUSE YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A TINY LITTLE FLAG LOT OUT TO SIMS AVENUE THERE ON THE BOTTOM LEFT. BUT WE COULDN'T DO THAT. SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO WE DO WITH THIS PROPERTY THAT'S VACANT AND LANDLOCKED? SO WE WERE THINKING, WELL, LET'S PROPOSE SOME SORT OF DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE BIG PIECE AND USED THE LITTLE PIECE AS, AS A DRIVEWAY FOR ACCESS. 'CAUSE OTHERWISE THE, THE LOT AND BACK AND THE, THE ENTIRE PROPERTY IS JUST UNDER AN ACRE. UM, YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH IT. I MEAN, YOU CAN'T GET TO IT. THERE'S NO ACCESS. UM, CERTAINLY COMMERCIAL WOULDN'T BE APPROPRIATE HERE. SO WE KIND OF CAME UP WITH THIS TOWN HOME PLAN, YOU KNOW, WHICH WOULD, WHICH REQUIRES THE PLAN AMENDMENT AND IT REQUIRES A REZONING. AND I REALIZED THERE, THERE'S SOME PEOPLE HERE IN OPPOSITION. I'VE BEEN FIELDING PHONE CALLS, TAKING EMAILS. THE ST. LEO'S NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION DOESN'T REALLY EXIST ANYMORE. THEY HAVEN'T HAD ANY MEETINGS. YOU KNOW, ALWAYS TRY TO GET OUT IN FRONT OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS AND SEE IF I CAN, AND IT'S ALWAYS EASIER FOR ME BECAUSE THEY HAVE A MEETING. I CAN GET OUT THERE, I CAN TALK TO PEOPLE, BUT WHEN I, WHEN I DON'T HAVE THAT, I'M KIND OF STUCK IN A, IN A BLOCK WALKING SITUATION, WHICH IS KIND OF ALMOST ALWAYS A WASTE OF TIME BECAUSE PEOPLE AREN'T THERE OR THEY HAVE A DOG, YOU CAN'T EVEN KNOCK ON THE DOORBELL ANYWAYS. UM, SO THAT'S KINDA WHERE I AM. SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, HOW WE CAN DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY AND MAKE IT A USABLE PIECE OF PROPERTY WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. YOU KNOW, PROVIDE SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING, YOU KNOW, NOT LOW INCOME OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT JUST, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT THE MARKET WILL SUPPORT IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, AND THAT'S KINDA WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. SO, I MEAN, I'M HAPPY TO FIELD ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. IF YOU HAVE SUGGESTIONS FOR WHAT YOU, YOU YOU THINK WE SHOULD BE ASKING FOR. I'LL, I'LL CERTAINLY ENTERTAIN THOSE AND, UM, AND I WILL TALK TO, TO THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE HERE AFTER WE FINISH. THANK YOU. I APOLOGIZE FOR BEING LATE. OKAY. THAT'S OKAY. THANKS PATRICK. ALL RIGHT. UM, WE HAVE TWO VOICEMAILS, SO WE'LL HEAR THOSE FIRST. YES. MY NAME IS BERTHA SANCHEZ. MY ADDRESS IS ONE 11 SIMS STREET. PHONE NUMBER IS TWO TEN TWO NINE SIX TWELVE TEN. I'M CALLING REGARDING CASE NUMBER PA DASH [00:45:01] 2 0 2 4 DASH 1 1 6 0 0 0 6 4. I'M CALLING TO SAY THAT WE ARE STRONGLY OPPOSED TO THE BUILDING OF A FOUREX COMPLEX IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE ASK THAT YOU TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT THIS IS AND HAS ALWAYS BEEN A LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AREA, AND CHANGING IT TO HIGH DENSITY WOULD ONLY CHANGE THE CHARACTERISTICS OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE DO NOT WANT TO HAVE ANY CHAOS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD OR HAVE PEOPLE LOOKING DOWN INTO OUR YARDS, INVADING OUR PRIVACY OR HANGING OUT IN PARKING LOTS AT ALL HOURS OF THE NIGHT. THERE ARE PLENTY OF OTHER AREAS AROUND THE AREA ON PLEASANTON ROAD AND DIVISION WHERE YOU CAN BUILD. AGAIN, WE ARE HIGHLY OPPOSED TO YOUR PLANNING OF THIS COMPLEX IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU. MY NAME AGAIN IS BERTHA . HELLO, THIS IS JENNIFER BROWN AND I CURRENTLY LIVE AT 1 0 7 SIMS AVENUE WITH MY FATHER. UM, HE IS THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY AND I'M ALSO SPEAKING ON HIS BEHALF. THIS IS IN REGARDS TO CASE NUMBER ENDING IN 0 6 4. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT MY GRANDFATHER PURCHASED THIS LOT IN 1950. THIS WAS BEFORE I 35 WAS BUILT. AT THAT TIME, MY GRANDPARENTS HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF SEEING THIS NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOP AND FORM BONDS WITH MANY FAMILIES. MOST OF THE HOMES THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THE PROPOSED PLAN ARE FAMILIES THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR GENERATIONS. IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN A SAFE, QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD. I AM BLESSED TO CONSIDER MY NEIGHBOR'S FAMILY. I WANT TO BE ABLE TO PASS THIS HOME IN HISTORY TO THE NEXT GENERATION OF MY FAMILY. THE PROPOSED PLANS WOULD INTERFERE WITH THAT COMFORT AND COMMUNITIES THAT HAS LASTED DECADES. PLEASE CONSIDER ANOTHER LOCATION FOR THESE PLANS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S IT FOR VOICEMAILS. OKAY. OKAY. WE DO HAVE TWO PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. FIRST IS JOHN DIAZ. NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. HELLO? UH, MY NAME IS JOHN. I IDEAS. I AM THE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, UM, I AM, WE ARE THE, THE FAMILY WEST OF THE, WHERE THEY WANNA BUILD. SO WE'RE LIKE, YOU SEE THAT LITTLE, YOU SEE THAT POOL? USUALLY I'M IN THERE, RIGHT? AND NOW IT, IT'S, IT'S RIGHT ACROSS IN THAT AREA RIGHT NOW. SO THE, THE QUESTION THAT WE HAVE IN MIND RIGHT NOW IS BASICALLY A COUPLE THINGS. ONE IS WE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY KNOWING THAT IT WAS, IT WAS LOW RESIDENTIAL. WE KNEW THAT WITH THE, THE CASE, WE FELT THAT, UH, OVERALL WE'VE ALWAYS HAD SOME KIND OF DRAINAGE ISSUES IN THAT AREA. UH, AND IN HIS, IN THE PROPOSAL I'M SEEING RIGHT NOW IS THE IMPERVIOUS PIECES. LIKE THE SQUARE FOOT FOR THAT IS LIKE 26, UH, THOUSAND FEET IS GONNA BE IMPERVIOUS. THEY'RE GONNA HAVE ASPHALT PUT ON THERE. SO IT'S GONNA, WHERE'S THAT WATER GONNA GO TO? THAT'S ONE OF MY CONCERNS. THE OTHER CONCERN OF THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE ORIGINAL PLAN THAT THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE 26 UNITS COMING UP IN AN AREA THAT IS BASICALLY, LIKE HE'S SAYING, NOT EVEN AN ACRE. UM, SO, AND THEN HE IS LOOKING AT 26 SLOTS FOR PARKING SPACES AND THAT TYPE OF THING. SO WHERE'S THE WATER GONNA GO TO? HOW IS IT GONNA AFFECT US AS FAR AS NOISE, UH, UH, LIGHT POLLUTION OR, OR THEY'RE GONNA LIGHT ALL THE TIME. WHAT'S, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT PARTICULAR PROCESS? I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ENOUGH THOUGHT PUT INTO IT OTHER THAN TRYING TO BAIL OUT THE, UH, THE, THE PERSON THAT BROUGHT THE PROPERTY IN THE FIRST PLACE, KNOWING THAT THERE WAS ONLY ONE, ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT. THAT'S A CONCERN FOR US. ALSO. IT'S THE, UH, IDEA OF, OF PROPERTY VALUE AND WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S GONNA BE THE USE? IS IT GONNA BE LIKE HE'S SAYING IT'S GONNA BE MIDDLE INCOME, UM, WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE, AND, AND WE'RE RIGHT NEXT TO IT. SO IT, IT DOES AFFECT ME ON, ON THAT LEVEL. SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A BIG DECISION FOR US ON THAT SITE. UM, OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK THAT, AND AGAIN, IT AFFECTS US ON THAT PARTICULAR SIDE. SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S JUST, IT JUST LOOKS NOT IMAGINABLE TO HAVE THAT SIZE OF A, OF A BUILDING IN THAT AREA. WHERE TECHNICALLY IF YOU GO, IF YOU ARE, YOU ARE ON 35, THERE'S, THERE'S COMMERCIAL AREA FOR THAT PARTICULAR SITUATION. YOU ALSO HAVE IT ON DIVISION WHERE THERE'S OTHER AREAS FOR THAT PARTICULAR PART. BUT IT JUST SOUNDS LIKE RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE TRYING TO, UH, APPEASE A, A PROPERTY OWNER THAT BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, KNOWING THAT PARTICULAR PIECE. IT'S NOT LIKE, OH, WE'RE TRYING TO BAIL HIM OUT. YOU KNOW, HE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY AND KNOWING THAT ALREADY. SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY PLEA, UH, FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THAT AREA. AND AGAIN, IT JUST, IT JUST ADDS 26 UNITS. IF YOU MULTIPLY THAT BY EVEN THREE PEOPLE THAT 60 PEOPLE LIVING IN A, IN A CONDENSED SPACE LIKE THAT, WHERE, AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, ALL OF IT'S AROUND, THERE'S GONNA BE PARKING. NOTHING ELSE. THERE'S NO LIVING SPACE TO, TO SPEAK OF. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [00:50:02] UM, NEXT PERSON. FERNANDO SIERRA. I'M FERNANDO SIERRA, TWO 18 HAWTHORNE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. UM, MY GRANDFATHER BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, UM, IN 1943 AND IT WAS HIS FIRST HOUSE. MY DAD SAYS THAT THEY HAD LIVED IN, HE COUNTS ABOUT 12 TO 15 RENTAL HOUSES, SO HE HAD PRIDE OF OWNERSHIP. SO RECENTLY, WELL, NOT RECENTLY, ABOUT 12 YEARS AGO, I CAME BACK TO THE SOUTH SIDE BEING ON THE NORTHWEST SIDE AND, UM, TO TAKE CARE OF MY ELDERLY PARENTS. SO TO TAKE UP THE TIME, UH, WE RENOVATED, UM, FOUR HOUSES, DISTRESSED PROPERTIES, UH, A BLOCK AWAY AND, UH, SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS AND, UH, AND BROUGHT UP, UM, THE VALLEY. THERE, THERE WAS ONE DOWN THE STREET, UM, ABOUT 2 64, I BELIEVE IS THE ADDRESS THAT WE, UM, BOUGHT. IT WAS DISTRESSED. WE RENOVATED AND UM, AND SOLD IT TO A A FAMILY. SO WE'RE INTO FAMILY, WE'RE INTO PRIDE OF OWNERSHIP. UH, WE WORK HARD. UM, MY, MY GRANDFATHER WAS A CARPENTER. IF YOU LOOK AT ALL THAT ST. LEO'S COMMUNITY, IT'S HARDWORKING PEOPLE THAT WORKED AT KELLY AND LACKLAND BACK AT THE BACK IN THE DAY IS GENTRIFYING NOW. AND SO, AS YOU HEARD ON THOSE PHONE CALLS AND THIS GENTLEMAN AND ME RIGHT NOW, WE'RE TRYING TO KIND OF HOLD THE FORT DOWN. UM, I ACTUALLY THOUGHT THAT WE WERE GONNA STAY THERE A FEW YEARS AND THEN MOVE BACK TO THE NORTHWEST SIDE. BUT TO BE HONEST, THE SOUTH SIDE IS A LITTLE GEM. UH, WE'VE COME TO APPRECIATE IT. IT'S GOT ITS OWN SUBCULTURE AND SO WE JUST WANNA KEEP IT, UM, KEEP IT AS PRIDE OF OWNERSHIP. THIS GENTLEMAN ALREADY SPOKE VERY WELL ABOUT SOME OF THE RAMIFICATIONS OF HAVING SO MANY PEOPLE PACKED INTO, UM, INTO THAT SMALL SPACE. ONE THING THAT YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE STREET HAWTHORNE IS THAT IT'S VERY NARROW. AND SO MOST PEOPLE ON THAT 200, THE WHOLE BLOCK ONLY HAVE A SINGLE PAD PARKING. SO IF THEY HAVE A SECOND VEHICLE OR THEIR KIDS HAVE A VE VEHICLE, THEY'RE PARKING ON THE STREET. SO IT'S VERY TIGHT. UH, SO I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD, GOOD, UH, IDEA. NOW, IF THEY WANTED TO CONSIDER MAKING THREE OR FOUR SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS AND SELLING THEM TO, TO HOMEOWNERS, THAT WOULD HELP THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THEN THAT MIGHT BE ANOTHER STORY. BUT WE'D HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THAT'S EVERYBODY THAT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS. WE'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER SIEGEL. UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MS. CHRISTIANSEN. YEAH, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, COMMISSIONERS, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE FIRST CHANCE I'M HAVING TO HEAR, YOU KNOW, AND SEE THE, THE NEIGHBORS. AND I KNOW MY, MY PROPERTY OWNER DOESN'T WANT TO CAUSE CHAOS OR DESTROY THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. WHY DON'T I JUST, IF IT'S OKAY WITH Y'ALL, IF I COULD ASK FOR A ONE MONTH CONTINUANCE AND I'LL DO THE SAME WITH THE ZONING COMMISSIONS SO I CAN TALK TO THEM AND MAYBE SEE IF WE, LIKE, WHEN WE COME BACK TO YOU, MAYBE WE'LL COME UP WITH SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE AMENABLE. I MEAN, TO, TO THEM. AND BECAUSE I KNOW MY OWNER'S NOT IN A CRAZY RUSH OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE ACTION ON THAT CONTINUANCE. CORRECT. OKAY. WE'LL JUST RESUME COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS AND THEN TAKE A MOTION. OKAY? YEP. YOU BET. UH, COMMISSIONER GOULETTE. NO QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER GARCIA, I HAD A QUESTION FOR STAFF. DID YOU REVIEW THIS WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT? BECAUSE I'VE SEEN THEIR VEHICLES AND IT MIGHT BE VERY DIFFICULT TO GET INTO THIS, UH, AREA TO PUT OUT A FIRE OR SOMETHING. SO HAS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT APPROVED THIS? NO. WELL, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WILL BE NOTIFIED WHEN THEY DO PERMITTING FOR THE ACTUAL ITEM, BUT THEY ARE NOT NOTIFIED FOR CHANGE OF ZONING ITEMS. COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? NO, NO, NO QUESTIONS. YOU KNOW, THIS IS A, I THINK WE HAD SOMETHING NOT DISSIMILAR TO THIS SEVERAL MONTHS AGO WHERE YOU HAVE THESE TRACKS THAT GOT LEFT OVER IN THESE OLD NEIGHBORHOODS. AND I DO THINK THERE'S, UM, SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE DONE WITH THEM. I MEAN, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HOUSING CHALLENGES, UM, ALL ACROSS THE CITY, AND THESE LITTLE POCKETS CAN BE REALLY USEFUL. [00:55:01] UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT OBVIOUSLY NEEDS TO BE BALANCED WITH THE NEEDS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I WOULD HOPE THAT THERE'S, UM, THERE'S A, A COMPROMISE, SOME KIND OF NEW IDEA THAT CAN BE BROUGHT BETWEEN THE PARTIES. AND SO I THINK THE TIME IS THE KEY HERE. GIVE EVERYBODY ANOTHER SHOT AT IT. UM, BECAUSE IT'S, UM, AGAIN, AGAIN, I THINK TWO GOALS THAT ARE, THAT ARE INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT. YOU KNOW, THE, THE CHARACTER OF A NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT ALSO MAXIMIZING THE, THE, THE, THE SPACE IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS TO, TO BRING PEOPLE IN AND HOW THOSE BLEND IS, I GUESS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION IF WE'RE OKAY TO SURE. GO AHEAD. MAKE A, TO CONTINUE THIS FOR A MONTH AS THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR A ONE MONTH CONTINUANCE TO THE OCTOBER, WHAT WOULD THAT BE? 23RD? 20 WHAT? OCTOBER 23RD. 23RD. OKAY. I'LL SECOND. WE ADD A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SIEGEL. STAFF, PLEASE DO A ROLL CALL. VOTE. COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? YES. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES. COMMISSIONER GARCIA? YES. COMMISSIONER ROULETTE? YES. UH, CHAIR PECK? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. GREAT. THANK YOU. OKAY. UH, ALL THAT'S LEFT IS ITEM 13 IN THE MINUTE CHAIR. YES. SORRY. CAN WE CORRECT THAT MOTION TO PASS FOR APPROVAL OF A CONTINUANCE TO OCTOBER 23RD? OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. [Approval of Minutes  ] ITEM 13, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE MINUTES? ANY EDITS? ALL RIGHT. UH, LET'S DO A ROLL CALL. VOTE ON THAT. SINCE COMMISSIONER SIEGEL'S ONLINE. UH, COMMISSIONER GARCIA? YES. COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? YES. COMMISSIONER ROULETTE? YES. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES. CHAIR PECK? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. I GUESS, DID WE ACTUALLY DO A MOTION? NO, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY, LET'S DO THAT ONE MORE TIME. SO LET'S, LET'S DO A MOTION, . MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. CAN, CAN WE, UH, JUST LEAVE THE ROLL CALL VOTE AS IS? NO, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND WE HAVE TO REDO IT. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. WHO'S SECONDED? THE MOTION? THANK YOU. I WAS JUST SAYING. UM, OKAY. COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? YES. COMMISSIONER ROULETTE? YES. COMMISSIONER GARCIA? YES. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES. CHAIR PECK? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. THANK YOU. ANY STAFF? UH, REPORTS? NOTHING FOR TODAY. AWESOME. WELL IT IS 3 0 4 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.