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GOOD MORNING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
IT IS 9 0 5 ON 10 OCTOBER, 2024.
THE SAN ANTONIO BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD WILL COME TO ORDER.
IF WE COULD, LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
DR. LINDA LOPEZ RODRIGUEZ? HERE.
ALSO PRESENT IN THE MEETING FROM THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ARE ERIC BURNS AND LU LUCINDA
DANNY EZ, CODE ENFORCEMENT ADMINISTRATOR.
ALICE GUO, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES MANAGER JENNY RAMIREZ, CODE ENFORCEMENT MANAGER ES ORTIZ, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES SPECIALIST.
JENNIFER MARTINEZ, ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT TWO.
UH, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO PROVIDES TRANSLATION SERVICES FOR OUR MEETINGS SO THAT EVERYONE WILL HOPEFULLY HAVE THE ABILITY TO FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT IS SAID.
SO LET'S HAVE THAT TRANSLATION IN SPANISH, PLEASE.
LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT UH, KAYLA HAS ARRIVED AND PRESENT, UH, FROM THE CHAIRMAN'S POINT OF VIEW, I'D LIKE TO AT LEAST SAY THANKS TO THE ENTIRE BOARD FOR BEING HERE TODAY, AND THANKS FOR THE SERVICE THAT YOU GIVE TO THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
AND A REAL QUICK COMMENT ABOUT MR. FRANKS.
HE WOULD BE HERE TODAY, BUT HE DECIDED TO VOLUNTEER TO DO SOME WORK ON HURRICANE RECOVERY.
SO HE IS OUT TRYING TO HELP FOLKS IN NORTH CAROLINA AND OR FLORIDA, UH, RECOVER FROM THE HURRICANE.
UH, JUST GO TO SHOW YOU THAT THIS BOARD IS MULTITASKING
WE CAN DO A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT THINGS ITSELF.
PLEASE SIGN YOUR CELL PHONES OR ANY DEVICE THAT MAY DISRUPT THE PUBLIC HEARING.
NO PERSON SHALL DELAY OR DISRUPT THE PROCEEDINGS OR DISOBEY THE ORDER OF THE CHAIR.
IF ANYONE PRESENT WISHES TO SPEAK REGARDING ANY AGENDA ITEM, PLEASE SIGN IN ON THE PERSONS TO BE HEARD SHEET OR ADVISE A CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF MEMBER.
ALL PERSONS WISHING TO SPEAK SHALL BE CALLED FORWARD WITH A RE RES, UH, RESPECTIVE CASE IS REACHED.
PLEASE NOTE THAT IT IS UNLAWFUL FOR ANY PERSON PRESENT IN THE BUILDING TO SOLICIT OR PEDAL SERVICES REGARDING ANY PROPERTY UNDER CONSIDERATION BY THIS BOARD DURING THE COURSE OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
PER CITY CODE SECTION 16 DASH 2 36.
UH, THE BOARD HAS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THE MINUTES FROM LAST YEAR'S MEETING.
UH, HOPEFULLY EVERYONE'S HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THAT.
UH, ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS THAT ANYONE WANTS TO BRING UP AT THIS TIME? IF NO CORRECTIONS CHAIR WOULD TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS IS FRED ANDIS.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES, AS IS THE MINUTES FOR MAY 16TH, 2024.
MOTION IS TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES OF MAY 16TH, 2024.
ANY DISCUSSION? UH, SINCE THERE'S NO DISCUSSION, WE'LL DO IT AS VOICE VOTE.
ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, SAY AYE.
UH, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT WE NEED TO READ THE RECORD? WE DO NOT HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS TODAY.
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UH, AT THIS TIME, WE WILL HAVE AN EMERGENCY DEMOLITION REPORT.MY NAME IS JENNY RAMIREZ, CODE ENFORCEMENT MANAGER WITH THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
I HAVE ONE ITEM TO READ INTO THE RECORD THIS MORNING IF I'M A PROCEED, SIR.
UH, THE FIRST ITEM, OR THE ONLY ITEM IS, UH, AN EMERGENCY DEMOLITION THAT DID OCCUR IN 9 23 NORTH ZAMORA.
UM, IT WAS THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE AND, UH, LOCATED IN COUNCIL DISTRICT FIVE, UH, IT WAS DEMOLISHED ON SEPTEMBER 25TH, 2024, DUE TO A FIRE THAT OCCURRED ON SEPTEMBER 23RD, 2024.
PURSUANT TO CHAPTER SIX DASH 1 75, NO FURTHER ACTION IS NEEDED BY THE BOARD AT THIS TIME.
THERE ARE BEFORE AND AFTER PHOTOS.
THAT DOES COMPLETE MY REPORT, UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
I KNOW I'D MENTIONED, UM, WE ARE GOING TO SHUFFLE JUST, UH,
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TWO ITEMS UP INTO, UH, THE NEXT STEP.WE WERE GONNA MOVE UP, UM, STAFF UPDATE OF SUB, UM, A AND B.
WE'LL BE MERGING THOSE TOGETHER.
AND, UH, THOSE WILL BE PRESENTED BY OUR CODE ADMINISTRATOR DANNY LEGES.
SO JUST A, AS A NOTIFICATION FOR THE BOARD.
WE CAN BE REAL FLEXIBLE WITH THE AGENDA TODAY.
UH, AT THIS MR. CHAIR, THIS IS, THIS IS LEGAL.
WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND SAVE OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION TILL AFTER, UM, UH, THE, THE PRESENTATION BY, UH, MR. LEGGE, I DID PROMISE YOU THAT WE COULD BE VERY FLEXIBLE, THEREFORE, WE WILL BE VERY FLEXIBLE.
DANNY, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
YOU GUYS MAKE MY JOB TOO EASY.
DANNY LEE IS CODE ENFORCEMENT ADMINISTRATOR FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
UH, I'M GONNA BE COVERING TWO ITEMS THIS MORNING.
UH, THE FIRST ITEM IS GONNA BE, UH, THE CODE ADOPTION PROCESS FOR THE SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE.
AND IN THAT SAME PRESENTATION, I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT THE CHAPTER SIX, UH, CODE AMENDMENT UPDATES THAT HAPPENED OR OCCURRED RATHER IN AUGUST, 2024.
SO, UH, WE'LL START WITH THE FIRST, UH, SLIDE HERE.
SO MANY OF YOU GUYS RECALL, UM, IT SEEMS LIKE JUST YESTERDAY WE WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS, RIGHT? UM,
SO Y'ALL, Y'ALL WERE ACTUALLY PART OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE, UH, LAST GO AROUND.
UH, AS YOU GUYS RECALL, WE STARTED THE PROCESS PROBABLY AROUND APRIL, 2022.
UH, THERE WAS PROBABLY SEVERAL COMMITTEE MEETINGS INCLUDING, UM, COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
UH, AND THE OVERALL PROCESS WENT PROBABLY FOR ABOUT SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS, GIVE OR TAKE.
AND IT WENT TO, UH, COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION NOVEMBER OF 2022.
UM, AND THEN WE ADOPTED THE ORDINANCE AND IT WENT INTO EFFECT FEBRUARY, 2023.
UH, AND THAT WAS FOR THE 2021 JO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE.
AND IT GOES, I EXPLAINED LAST TIME THE REASON FOR THE DELAY WAS, UH, DUE TO THE PANDEMIC, RIGHT? SO NORMALLY WE GO THROUGH THE ADOPTION PROCESS EVERY THREE YEARS.
UH, AND SO, BUT HOWEVER, DUE TO THE PANDEMIC, THERE WAS A LITTLE DELAY IN, IN AMENDING OR ADOPTING THE 2021 S-A-P-M-C.
SO, LAST GO AROUND, WE DID THE, UH, THE PROCESS.
UH, THERE WAS AROUND 83 PROPOSED AMENDMENTS.
UH, THAT WAS ABOUT, UH, 24 THAT CAME FROM INTERNAL AND ABOUT 59 THAT WERE EXTERNAL.
THE VAST MAJORITY OF THOSE, UH, AMENDMENTS WERE RELATED TO CHAPTER ONE, WHICH IS GONNA BE THE SCOPE AND ADMINISTRATION.
AND SO, UM, OVERALL, THERE WERE 66 UNIQUE PROPOSALS THAT WERE TAKING COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION, AND THEY WERE ALL ADOPTED INTO THE, UM, INTO THE S-A-P-M-C.
UM, SO HIGHLIGHTING, I THINK SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME, AND I'M JUST EMPHASIZING WHAT WE DID LAST TIME, WAS, UM, THERE WERE A FEW EMPHASIS ON SOME DEFINITIONS, ACCUMULATION WITH ONE DEFINITION THAT CAME OUT OF THE LAST REVIEW THAT WE HAD.
UM, THERE WAS SOME EMPHASIS ON, UM, MAKING SURE DEMOLITION, UH, WAS THE LAST RESORT.
UH, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS CODIFIED ALREADY IN CHAPTER SIX, UM, THE COMMUNITY FELT WAS IMPORTANT THAT WE ADDED IT TO OUR SCIENTIFIC PROPERTY MAINTENANCE COACH, WHICH WE DID.
UM, THERE WAS SOME ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE CLARIFYING THE RIGHT TO AN APPEAL.
UH, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT IN SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS.
VERY LENGTHY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT, UH, THE HOMEOWNER OR THE OCCUPANT OR TENANT HAS A RIGHT TO APPEAL THE NOTICE OF VIOLATION BEFORE THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD.
UH, AND SO AGAIN, THAT WAS CODIFIED IN ALASKA AROUND 2021.
SO WHAT IS OUR OVERALL PROCESS? UM, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, UH, THE BUILDING SANDERS BOARD, UM, WILL MAKE UP THE SUBCOMMITTEE, RIGHT? UM, LAST TIME, UH, IT WAS A, LEMME GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
THE LAST TIME THERE WAS A, UH, IT, IT WASN'T AS, UM, AS FORMAL, IF YOU WILL.
WE FOLLOWED OUR CHAPTER 10 AMENDMENTS AT THE TIME, UH, WHERE WE OPENED IT UP TO AS MANY BOARD MEMBERS THAT WANTED TO BE PART OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE.
UH, THIS YEAR IS GONNA BE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT.
UM, I HAVE A SLIDE HERE TO SHOW YOU WHAT THE, UM, THE NEW COMPOSITION WOULD BE LOOKING LIKE OR BE MADE UP OF.
HOWEVER, LAST TIME, I BELIEVE THERE WAS 10 OF THE FOUR TEAM MEMBERS THAT SAT ON THE, UH, THE SUBCOMMITTEE WITH FOUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, UM, THAT SAT ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE AS WELL.
UH, ALL 10 MEMBERS WERE VOTING MEMBERS.
UH, HOWEVER, THE FOUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS WERE NON-VOTING MEMBERS.
WHILE THEY HAD A RIGHT TO SIT AT THE TABLE AND EXERCISE, YOU KNOW, THEIR OPINION AND THEIR AMENDMENTS AND WHAT HAVE YOU, THEY JUST DIDN'T HAVE A VOTE AT THE TIME.
SO, UH, AND SO THAT'S GONNA CHANGE THIS YEAR.
AND SO I'LL HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE CHANGES THIS YEAR AS WELL.
BUT AGAIN, YOUR TASK IS REALLY JUST TO LOOK AT THE CODE, LOOK AT THE EXISTING CODE, AND SEE IS THERE A NEED TO AMEND OR FURTHER CLARIFY ANY LANGUAGE THAT'S IN THE CURRENT CODE TODAY.
UM, AND WHETHER WE WANNA ADOPT ANY OF THE 2024 INTERNATIONAL PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE AMENDMENTS, UM, INTO THE 2024 SANITARY PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE.
SO HERE'S OUR PROPOSED TIMELINE FOR THIS YEAR.
SO, UM, WE HAD TWO COMMUNITY MEETINGS INFORMING THE PUBLIC ABOUT, UM, THE UPCOMING ADOPTION PROCESS.
UM, WE HAD ONE WEBEX AND ONE IN PERSON.
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WAS, UH, RELATIVELY LOW TURNOUT FOR BOTH MEETINGS.I BELIEVE THE ONE WEBEX WE HAD MAYBE TWO PARTICIPANTS, AND THE IN PERSON, WE HAD MAYBE THREE PEOPLE THAT SHOWED UP, UM, WHICH COULD BE INDICATIVE OF NOTHING, RIGHT? IT JUST, MAYBE THEY JUST WEREN'T AVAILABLE.
SO, UH, BUT NEVERTHELESS, WE DID HAVE TWO COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
UM, THIS INFORMATION IS ON OUR, UH, ESSAY SPEAK UP PAGE AS WELL.
UM, AND SO, BUT HERE'S OUR PROPOSED TIMELINE.
SO AGAIN, UH, WE'RE HERE TODAY, OCTOBER 10TH, TO MAKE A SELECTION FOR A SUBCOMMITTEE.
THE IDEA BEHIND IT'S THAT WE WOULD START MAYBE THE NEXT TWO OR THREE MONTHS, OR RATHER, TWO MONTHS RATHER, UH, TO REVIEW THE CODE AND THEN BRING IT BACK TO THE FULL BOARD IN DECEMBER FOR CONSIDERATION, UH, PRESENTED TO COUNCIL EITHER FEBRUARY OR JANUARY OF NEXT YEAR, AND THEN BEGIN TRAINING, UH, EARLY FEBRUARY OF NEXT YEAR.
SO, IT'S GONNA BE A RELATIVELY SHORT PROCESS, QUICK PROCESS, UH, HOWEVER WE CAN ALWAYS AMEND THIS.
THIS IS JUST THE PROPOSED TIMELINE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, AT THIS TIME, UH, FOR THIS NEW ADOPTION PROCESS.
AGAIN, SO I TOUCHED BASE BASICALLY QUICKLY ON THE, THE PROCESS, RIGHT? SO, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, IT'S GONNA BE COMPRISED OF BSB MEMBERS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
UM, AGAIN, NOT ALL FOUR TEAM MEMBERS WILL HAVE A OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE ON, ON THE BOARD AS VOTING MEMBERS.
UM, YOU GUYS WILL MAKE THE SELECTION ON WHO WILL BE THE SUBCOMMITTEE, UM, AND WHO WOULD BE THE CHAIR FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEE.
OTHER MEMBERS COULD INCLUDE MEMBERS FROM, UH, DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS.
AND WE PUT THIS OUT THERE BECAUSE AGAIN, UH, WHILE THEY MAY NOT HAVE APPLIED FOR A POSITION TO BE ON IT, THEY CERTAINLY, WE WELCOME PUBLIC INPUT.
UH, WE HAVE THE, UH, CODE AMENDMENT PROCESS THEY'LL OPEN AS WELL, WHICH I'LL TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT TIMELINES HERE SHORTLY.
UH, BUT AGAIN, ANYBODY'S WELCOME TO PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETINGS.
UH, WE'LL HAVE A SECTION FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
AND AGAIN, WE WE'RE STILL ACCEPTING AMENDMENTS AS WELL.
SO THE SUBCOMMITTEE PROCESS, WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR TODAY, HERE'S OUR TIMELINE.
UM, SO WE INITIALLY POSTED THE APPLICATION, UH, ONLINE, UH, TO RECEIVE SUBCOMMITTEE, UH, SUBMITTALS ON THE 20TH OF SEPTEMBER.
UH, IT CLOSED OCTOBER THE THIRD.
UM, WE SENT, I BELIEVE, THE TWO APPLICANTS OVER TO THE FULL BOARD, UH, ON TUESDAY, OCTOBER THE EIGHTH.
UM, AND TODAY YOU GUYS WILL REVIEW THOSE TWO APPLICANTS AND, UM, SEE WHICH OF THE TWO, UH, OR BOTH MAYBE A GOOD FIT FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEE.
UH, WE DID HAVE A THIRD APPLICANT.
UM, IT WAS AN INTERNAL CANDIDATE, UH, A YOUNG CODE OFFICER
HOWEVER, WE DECIDED THAT IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE A RIGHT FIT TO HAVE A, A CODE OFFICER ON OUR, OUR SUBCOMMITTEE, UH, TO REVIEW THE CODE AT THIS TIME.
BUT HOWEVER, WE'VE ENCOURAGED HIM TO SUBMIT ANY AMENDMENTS THAT WE HAVE, AND HE'S MORE THAN WELCOME TO SIT IN ANY MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE AS FAR AS, AGAIN, JUST FOR DISCUSSION.
OKAY? UM, AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, UM, THIS INFORMATION IS POSTED UP, UH, ON OUR ESSAY SPEAK UP PAGE.
UM, WE DID SEND SEVERAL EMAILS AND SOCIAL BLASTS, UH, THROUGH DIFFERENT SOCIAL MEDIA OUTLETS, UH, ON EARLY SEPTEMBER 19TH, AGAIN, ON SEPTEMBER 24TH.
AND AGAIN, OCTOBER 1ST, RIGHT BEFORE THE, UH, THE SUBCOMMITTEE, UH, APPLICATION PROCESS CLOSED, UH, THERE WAS APPROXIMATELY 5,300 EMAILS THAT WENT OUT.
UM, AND AGAIN, UNFORTUNATELY WE ONLY RECEIVED TWO, UM, TWO APPLICANTS AT THE TIME, COMPARED TO LAST YEAR, WHERE WE RECEIVED APPROXIMATELY 29, I THINK IT WAS.
UH, SO I MEAN, BUT AGAIN, THAT COULD JUST BE INDICATIVE OF WHO KNOWS WHAT I MEAN? JUST, THERE'S PROBABLY GONNA BE PEOPLE PARTICIPATING.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE JUST TRANSPARENT ABOUT, UH, WE FOLLOW THE SAME PROCESS WE DID LAST YEAR AS WELL.
OKAY? AND, UM, SO HERE'S GONNA BE THE, REALLY THE BIG CHANGE THIS YEAR WHEN IT COMES TO THE BOARD PROCESS.
SO, AS WE MENTIONED LAST YEAR, IT WAS OPEN TO REALLY ANY, UH, BOARD MEMBER THAT WANTED TO PARTICIPATE, RIGHT? LAST YEAR WE HAD 10 OF THE 14, UH, AND THEN WE HAD FOUR, UM, NON BSB MEMBERS SIT ON THERE WHERE THERE WERE NON-VOTING MEMBERS.
THIS YEAR'S GONNA BE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT.
UH, WE HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST A MINIMUM OF FOUR AND NO MORE THAN SIX BOARD MEMBERS TO SERVE ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE.
AND AS FAR AS THE APPOINTEES THAT ARE NON-BOARD MEMBERS, IT'S UP TO FOUR OR ONE LESS THAN THE BOARD MEMBERS.
OKAY? SO AGAIN, UP TO FOUR OR ONE LESS.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S PRETTY SIMPLE.
I MEAN, WE HAVE FOUR SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBERS.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE ONE LESS, WHICH WOULD BE THE TWO OR THE ONE, OKAY? UM, ALL APPOINTEES THIS TIME DO HAVE A, A, A VOTE AT THE TABLE, RIGHT? SO AGAIN, THOSE TWO NON-BOARDING MEMBERS, NON-BOARD MEMBERS, WILL HAVE A RIGHT TO VOTE AS WELL.
UM, AND THIS, THIS PROCESS WAS CODIFIED IN AUGUST OF THIS PAST YEAR, 2024.
WE MIRRORED, OR LAST TIME RATHER, WE MIRRORED CHAPTER 10, UM, I GUESS THE CHAPTER 10, UM, WHICH IS GONNA BE REALLY THE SUPER BOARD, WHICH IS GONNA BE OUR FIRE RELATED BOARD.
BUT THIS YEAR WE ACTUALLY CODIFIED IN CHAPTER SIX.
SO THERE IS AN AMENDMENT NOW IN CHAPTER SIX THAT INCLUDES, THAT KIND OF OUTLINES SPECIFICALLY WHAT THE REQUIRE OR THE COMPOSITION OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE
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WILL BE, RIGHT? UM, I'M SORRY, I THOUGHT YOU HAD A QUESTION.SO, UH, AGAIN, I, I'LL OPEN IT FOR DISCUSSIONS AT THE END OF THE MEETING IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
BUT AGAIN, JUST QUICKLY IN REGARDS TO THIS HERE, SO WE DO HAVE, SO WE DO HAVE THE AMENDMENT PROCESS STILL OPEN.
UM, THAT PROCESS OPENED ON SEPTEMBER 20TH.
UH, SO THERE ARE STILL SOME TIME TO SUBMIT YOUR AMENDMENTS IF YOU WANNA HAVE, UH, SOMETHING FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER.
UH, WE DO HAVE TWO PROPOSED KICKOFF DATES.
UH, AS OF RIGHT NOW, YOU, THE SUBCOMMITTEE WILL ULTIMATELY DECIDE WHICH DATE THEY WOULD LIKE, AND THEN FROM THERE WE'LL DECIDE, UM, THE REST OF THE DATES AS, AS YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD, RIGHT? SO ONE KICKOFF DATE RIGHT NOW IS OCTOBER, UH, 23RD, WHICH IS A WEDNESDAY FROM NINE TO 11.
AND THE SECOND KICKOFF DAY WE'RE PROPOSING IS OCTOBER 25TH, WHICH IS A FRIDAY FROM TWO TO FOUR.
SO THOSE ARE JUST TWO PROPOSED KICKOFF DATES AT THIS TIME.
UH, AGAIN, THE LAST THING IS JUST KIND OF STAY TUNED FOR UPDATES.
AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, ALL THIS INFORMATION IS POSTED ON OUR ESSAY SPEAK UP.
UH, WE'RE POSTING THE TIMELINES, THE CALENDAR, THE RESOURCES, EVERYTHING THAT, UH, IS DISCUSSED, UH, WILL BE POSTED ONLINE.
UM, THAT INCLUDES PRESENTATIONS, FACT SHEETS, THE PMC ITSELF.
AND, AND, YOU KNOW, DO WE DO HAVE AN EMAIL ADDRESS, UH, THAT WE CREATED SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS PROCESS, WHICH IS SAPC@SANTO.GOV.
UH, THAT INBOX IS MONITORED BY SEVERAL STAFF MEMBERS.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS OR WANNA SUBMIT SOMETHING THROUGH THAT, THAT'S GONNA BE YOUR WAY TO SUBMIT IT TO US, AND, UH, WE'LL ADD IT TO THE AGENDA FOR CONSIDERATION OF OUR REVIEW.
AND THAT KIND OF SUMS UP MY PRESENTATION IN REGARDS TO THE PMC ADOPTION PROCESS.
UM, A LITTLE BIT OF FOR QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS OR ANYTHING, MR. CARE, I HAVE A FEW THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO SAY.
UM, IF THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY QUESTIONS, BECAUSE I, I HAVE ALREADY, UH, SPOKEN WITH JENNY RAMIREZ, UH, ABOUT THIS PROCESS.
UM, I AM EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTED IN THE WAY THAT THIS TURNED OUT.
UM, COMMUNITY MEMBERS CONTACTED ME BECAUSE THE ONLY EMAIL THEY RECEIVED WAS ON OCTOBER 2ND, AND BY THE THIRD AT, UH, WHAT WAS IT, 4, 4 30, THE APPLICATION WAS CLOSED.
SO WHEN THEY ATTEMPTED TO FILL OUT THE APPLICATION AT FIVE, THEY COULDN'T DO.
UM, IT WAS VERY DIFFERENT PROCESS THIS TIME THAN IT WAS THE LAST ROUND.
UM, THE LAST ROUND, IT WAS ANNOUNCED IN THE MEETINGS, UH, IT WENT OUT.
PEOPLE WERE ABLE TO SHARE IT THIS TIME.
IT, IT, IT HAPPENED IN BETWEEN OUR MEETINGS.
IT WAS NOT ANNOUNCED ON THE, ON THE B PANEL.
IT, IT WAS NOT A TRANSPARENT PROCESS.
SO A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD HAVE APPLIED APPLICATIONS, WE WOULD HAVE RECEIVED, THEY DIDN'T GET THROUGH.
AND I, I AM NOT HAPPY WITH THIS.
I HAVE A STRONG OBJECTION TO THE FACT THAT WE DID NOT DO AN OPEN TRANSPARENT APPLICATION PROCESS.
I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, AS A DEFI REPRESENTATIVE WITH DEFI HAVING THE MOST IMPACTED INDIVIDUALS WHEN IT COMES TO CODE, BECAUSE WE HAVE THE OLDEST HOUSING STOCK, WE MUST HAVE A VOICE ON THE S-A-P-M-C, UH, EDITS.
AND IT, IT'S JUST, I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED.
AGAIN, IF YOU ALLOW ME TO COMMENT TO THAT.
SO, YEAH, SO I, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND YOUR COMMENTS AND I BELIEVE, UH, I, JENNY'S BRIEFED ME ON, UM, SOME OF THE CONVERSATION YOU GUYS HAD.
UM, YES, UNFORTUNATELY, HOWEVER, THIS INFORMATION WAS PUSHED OUT, UH, AT SEVERAL TIMES, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA, UH, THROUGH EMAIL.
UM, AS I MENTIONED, IT'S EVEN POSTED ON OUR ESSAY SPEAKUP PAGE AS WELL.
UM, ESSAY SPEAKUP IS EXTREMELY DISORGANIZED.
AND QUITE HONESTLY, AS SOMEONE WHO ADVOCATES A LOT ON THE CITY LEVEL, THAT'S THE PLACE WHERE PUBLIC COMMENT GOES TO DIE BECAUSE NOBODY USES IT.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT A PROPER WAY TO DO A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
AND, AND AS I MENTIONED TOO, AGAIN, THIS IS, I I DON'T THINK IT'S A, IT'S AN END ALL FOR ANYBODY AT THIS POINT.
SO I MEAN, THE SUB THE PROCESS FOR CODE AMENDMENT'S STILL OPEN.
UH, THERE'S STILL SOME TIME TO SUBMIT A CODE AMENDMENT, UH, THAT CLOSES OCTOBER 23RD.
UH, EVERY MEETING THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE IS A PUBLIC MEETING.
UH, ANY RESIDENTS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING COULD JOIN OR PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETING.
THERE'LL BE A SECTION FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
UM, AND SO AGAIN, IT'S, THERE'S STILL SOME OPPORTUNITY TO GET THEIR INPUT IN AND, AND FOR CONSIDERATION FOR REVIEW.
UM, I AM, I DO WANT MOVING FORWARD, IF WHEN WE DO THIS AGAIN, 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA KEEP DOING IT, THAT, UH, A DIRECT EMAIL TO EACH OF THE BOARD MEMBERS HAPPENS, BECAUSE THAT DID NOT HAPPEN WITH US.
AND IT ALSO NEEDS TO GO OUT TO THE CITY COUNCIL OFFICES.
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UM, WHEN I CONTACTED D FIVE, THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT THE APPLICATION PROCESS WAS OPEN.THEY KNEW IT WAS GONNA HAPPEN SOON.
THEY JUST DIDN'T, THEY DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS ALREADY OPEN AND IT WAS CLOSING.
DO WE HAVE A, A CURRENT NUMBER ON THE PROPOSALS SO FAR THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED FOR THE CONSIDERATION? YES, SIR.
I'M GLAD YOU ASKED THAT QUESTION.
SO, SO FAR RIGHT NOW, WE'VE RECEIVED ONLY TWO EXTERNAL AMENDMENTS, UH, BOTH OF THEM FROM STAFF.
HOWEVER, THE 2024 IPMC, THERE IS APPROXIMATELY 58, UM, UPDATES, WHETHER IT'S AN ADDITION OR A NEW SECTION TO THE CODE OR REVISION TO THE EXISTING CODE, UH, THAT WE'LL BE CONSIDERING.
AND, AND I'M SORRY, BEFORE I JUST, AGAIN, JUST TO EMPHASIZE ABOUT 80% OF THOSE ARE, AGAIN, IN CHAPTER ONE, SCOPE OF ADMINISTRATION.
THAT SEEMS WHERE A LOT OF THE CHANGES ARE HAVE HAPPENED OR OCCURRING OF THE, OF THE INTERNATIONAL, OF, OF THE INTERNATIONAL PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE.
I KNOW THAT YOU CALLED FOR JOEL, BUT, UH, MS. ROSEN DID HAVE A QUESTION, SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU GET HER AFTER OR BEFORE WHOEVER.
YEAH, I'M JUST GONNA COMMENT, UH, REALLY DO APPLAUD ACTUALLY HAVING AN OPEN, UH, PERIOD OF TIME FOR PUBLIC TO PROVIDE, UH, CODE CHANGE PROPOSALS.
I THINK THAT'S SUPER WITH A FIRM DATE TO CUT IT OFF.
SO WE KNOW AS A COMMITTEE THAT'S GONNA BE MEETING TO, TO REVIEW THOSE, THAT WE HAVE A SET, UH, A NUMBER OF CHANGES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND THAT WE'LL GO THROUGH.
SO IT REALLY SET HELPS WITH THE WORK PLAN AND GET US TO A COMPLETION RATHER QUICKLY.
THE, THE COMMENT I HAVE IS REGARDING, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC INPUT ON PROPOSED CHANGES VERSUS PUBLIC COMMENT DURING PUBLIC MEETINGS.
FOR THE COMMENTS THAT COME IN FOR CHANGES, I TAKE IT, WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THOSE AND PROVIDE THE RATIONALE FOR THE COMMITTEE ON WHY IT DECIDED TO ACT AS IT DID REGARDING THAT PARTICULAR CHANGE REQUEST VERSUS WHAT WE DO WITH PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT THEY COME IN DURING THE MEETING.
I UNDERSTAND FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS, WE DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE A RATIONALE.
UH, AND THE REASON IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LISTENING TO THE PUBLIC PROVIDING THAT INPUT AND THERE AS A PANEL THAT, THAT WE INTERNALIZE THAT OURSELVES AND, AND WE REACT THAT WAY.
SO THERE'S NO NEED TO PUT A, TO PROVIDE RATIONALE FOR HOW WE HANDLE THAT PUBLIC INPUT DURING THE PUBLIC MEETING.
IS THAT YOUR THOUGHT ABOUT HOW THIS PROCESS IS GONNA GO FORWARD? Y YEAH.
SO THE, THE, THE CODE AMENDMENT PROCESS WILL CLOSE ON OCTOBER 23RD.
THAT IS THE TIME WHERE THE DEADLINE TO SUBMIT YOUR, UH, YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE 24 S-A-P-M-C.
THE PUBLIC COMMENTS WILL OCCUR THROUGH, UH, THROUGHOUT THE MEETINGS, UH, BOTH THE, UM, SUBCOMMITTEE MEETINGS AND THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, RIGHT? SO WE ALWAYS ALLOW PUBLIC COMMENTS.
UH, AGAIN, IT MAY BE THEY COULD VOICE AN OPINION ON, ON A PARTICULAR AMENDMENT THAT'S, THAT'S ON THE TABLE.
UM, BUT TO YOUR POINT, UM, CERTAINLY WANNA INTERNALIZE THAT AND DECIDE ON WHETHER YOU WANT TO CONTINUE THAT OR APPROVE OR DENY THAT, THAT RECOMMENDATION BASED ON WHAT YOU'RE HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY.
RIGHT? SO, UH, WE ALWAYS EMPHASIZE THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK'S IMPORTANT, RIGHT? IT'S KEY AS, AS WE DROVE THE PROCESS LAST TIME.
AND SO IT'S GONNA DRIVE THE PROCESS AGAIN THIS TIME.
SO AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING AT YOU GUYS TO MAKE A DECISION BASED ON WHAT IS BEST FOR THE PUBLIC AND THE COMMUNITY.
MS. ROSEN, UM, I WAS WONDERING IF THERE'S A STANDARDIZED PROCESS AND TIMELINE FOR ANY KIND OF APPLICATIONS FOR COMMITTEES AT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, OR IS IT DECIDED INDIVIDUALLY FOR EACH COMMITTEE APPLICATION? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
I WASN'T PREPARED TO ANSWER THAT.
I CAN'T SPEAK TO OTHER, UH, BOARDS.
I WOULD IMAGINE WE, THERE WOULD PROBABLY BE SOME TYPE OF TIMELINE PROPOSED.
UM, IT JUST CAN'T BE LEFT OPEN-ENDED, BUT I DON'T HAVE THE SPECIFICS ON AS FAR AS OTHER COMMITTEES.
UM, I'LL LOOK OVER TO LEGAL OR THE REASON I'M, IF I COULD, AND I, IF I COULD JUST CHIME IN ON THAT.
I KNOW, UM, WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT, WE ARE WORKING ACTUALLY WITH OUR COUNTERPART IN THE DIVISION OF, UH, POLICY.
OUR POLICY TEAM HAS ACTUALLY STEPPED IN AND IS WORKING WITH US HERE IN CODE ENFORCEMENT TO, UH, MIRROR THE PREVIOUS OUTREACH, THE SAME TYPE OF OUTREACH, THE SAME TYPE OF APPLICATION INTAKE, THE SAME TYPE OF ADVERTISEMENT AS WELL.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ARE DOING INTERNALLY HERE WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT.
UM, AS DANNY MENTIONED, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO WHAT OTHER TASK FORCE ARE HAPPENING OUTSIDE THIS, UM, IN THE OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS.
BUT WITHIN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, THAT IS SOMETHING, UH, WE'VE KIND OF BEEN MANDATED TO WORK TOWARDS AS FAR AS MAKING SURE THEY KIND OF MIRROR AND, UM, ARE EQUAL ACROSS THE BOARD WITH THE OTHER, WE HAVE THE, UH, THE FULL BOARD, WHICH IS THE FIRE AND ADVISORY BOARD.
THERE'S ALSO, UM, THAT ARE REVIEWING THE OTHER ICC CODES AND THEY'RE IN THE SAME PROCESS AT THIS TIME.
AND THE POLICY TEAM IS ACTUALLY, UM, WORKING WITH THEM AS WELL.
SAME, SAME SETUP, UM, AND OUTREACH AS WELL.
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IS THAT 12 DAYS SEEMS LIKE A RATHER SMALL WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY TO REACH AND NOTIFY EVERY CITY CITIZEN OF SAN ANTONIO, OF THAT THERE'S A PROCESS THAT'S AVAILABLE MUCH LESS GET THEM TO APPLY.UM, AND I THINK ALSO THAT THE IDEA THAT PEOPLE SHOULD BE GOING IN AND DAILY CHECKING A WEBSITE TO SEE IF THEY'RE GOING TO FIND SOMETHING THEY MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN, DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A REALISTIC REPRESENTATION OF WHAT MOST PEOPLE HAVE TIME FOR.
AND I WOULD THINK THAT, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT A TIMELINE WOULD INCLUDE OVERLAP WITH WHEN THE CITY COUNCIL, UM, MEMBERS SEND OUT THEIR NEWSLETTERS.
I FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS COMMITTEE BECAUSE IT WAS IN MY COUNCILMAN'S NEWSLETTER, AND I THINK WE SHOULD ABSOLUTELY ENCOURAGE, AND IF YOU'RE REDOING THE PROCESSES, SAY THAT EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER NEEDS TO BE NOTIFIED AND IT HAS TO, THE TIMELINE HAS TO ENCOMPASS WHEN THEY SEND OUT THEIR NEWSLETTER AND TWO WEEKS AFTER IT IS SENT, SO THAT PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE A TIMELINE IN WHICH TO APPLY AFTER OR EXPRESS INTEREST AFTER THEY HAD RECEIVED NOTIFICATION.
BUT I JUST THINK IF YOU WOULD LIKE FULL PARTICIPATION THAT IT SHOULD BE A SYSTEM THAT IS ARRIVING AT PEOPLE AS OPPOSED TO ASKING THEM TO GO IN AND DO ONE MORE THING TO CHECK.
UM, I DO WANNA MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE PROCESS, UM, THAT YOU ARE, ARE, ARE TALKING ABOUT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS CONTROLLED BY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
SO ANY PROCESS THAT YOU ARE GOING TO REQUIRE EVERY CITY COUNCIL OFFICE TO DO A CERTAIN THING IS, UH, QUITE HONESTLY ABOVE THE PURVIEW OF THIS COMMITTEE AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
SO, WHILE SERVICES, SO WHILE, UM, I APPLAUD YOU AND I, I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU.
UM, I, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S APPROPRIATE IF, IF, IF WE GET INTO THAT DEBATE HERE ONLY BECAUSE WE AS A, AS A COMMITTEE AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AS A DEPARTMENT DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO, UH, REQUIRE CITY COUNCIL TO DO A, B, C, OR D.
UM, BUT I I I, I THINK YOUR, UH, I I I, I THINK YOUR SUGGESTION IS A GOOD ONE AND I, I, I DO HOPE THAT CITY COUNCIL AND OUR, OUR, UH, UH, OUR, OUR LEGISLATIVE BODY IS, IS LISTENING BECAUSE I, I DO THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WE ARE ENSURING THAT ALL OF, UM, THE CITIZENS OF CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ARE, ARE, ARE NOTIFIED AND, AND HAVE ADEQUATE NOTICE OF SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO, TO ASK THEM TO BE INVOLVED.
UM, AS FAR AS THE NOTICE GOES, YOU KNOW, THE CITY HAS A, A, A DATABASE OR A LIST OF ALL THE, THE, UH, RECOGNIZED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.
UH, AND THEY'RE NOTIFIED OF ZONING CHANGES AND, AND VARIANCE REQUESTS.
COULD THEY BE ADDED TO, UH, THE NOTIFICATION LIST FOR THIS? SO THESE THINGS GO IN ADDITION TO EVERYTHING ELSE THEY'RE GOING TO, TO THE RECOGNIZED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS IN THE CITY? YES.
AND THAT WAS PART OF THE NOTIFICATION.
SO WHEN THE 5,000 PLUS EMAILS WENT OUT, THAT INCLUDED NEIGHBOR ASSOCIATIONS, COMMUNITY ASSOCIATIONS, UM, DEVELOP INSIGHT LIST, S-A-P-M-C, THINGS PEOPLE THAT HAVE REGISTERED OR HAVE, OR THAT WE HAVE SOME, I GUESS, FORMAL COMMUNICATION WITH RIGHT.
IN THE PAST WHERE THERE, THERE WAS A LARGE BLAST THAT WENT OUT.
BUT TO YOUR POINT, IT DOES INCLUDE ORGANIZATIONS ALREADY THAT ARE, UM, NEIGHBOR ASSOCIATIONS OR COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION RELATED.
AND THE SECOND QUESTION, UH, IS THERE A DOCUMENT SOMEPLACE SHOWING THE ICC PROPOSED, UH, AMENDMENTS TO THE, UH, UH, PMC? NOT YET, SIR.
THAT, THAT'S STILL IN THE WORKS RIGHT NOW.
WE, WE WILL HAVE THAT AVAILABLE, UH, ONCE THE AMENDMENT PROCESS CLOSES.
SO WE CAN INCLUDE ALL THE AMENDMENTS FROM BOTH INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL.
SO, SO NOBODY CAN SEE THE ICC RECOMMENDED AMENDMENTS BEFORE THE CLOSURE OF THE COMMENT PERIOD.
UH, WELL, WE'LL, WE'LL SEE THAT, UH, IN THE COMMITTEE.
WE HISTORICALLY SEEN THAT IN THE COMMITTEE, CORRECT? YEAH, WE, WE SEE IPC, UH, ACTUALLY AS PART OF THE COMMITTEE, UH, WHILE, WHILE WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT EACH INDIVIDUAL RECOMMENDATION.
SO WE'LL SEE THAT, UH, IN THE COMMITTEE'S SITUATION.
YEAH, I'M LOOKING AT MS. WEINER HERE 'CAUSE SHE THINKS SHE HAS A QUESTION.
I'M SORRY, I'M LOOKING AT MS. WEINER BECAUSE I THINK SHE HAS, AND I THINK IT WAS SORT OF, I WONDERED WHERE, WHERE YOU GOT ALL THESE EMAIL ADDRESSES.
IT'S LIKE, IN THIS CITY, I AM SURE THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T EVEN HAVE COMPUTERS OR USE THE EMAIL.
I NEVER RECEIVED ANYTHING IN THE SNAIL MAIL, AND I CAN'T IMAGINE ANYONE ELSE DID EITHER.
BECAUSE OF MY INVOLVEMENT IN THE DISTRICT, UH, I GET A WHOLE LOT OF COMMUNICATION.
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THAT INFORMATION, BUT IT VERY WELL MAY BE BECAUSE OF THE, UH, WORK THAT I DO WITHIN THE COUNCIL, UH, OR NOT COUNCIL IN THE DISTRICT.SO YOU GOT IT IN THE MAIL? UH, NO, I'M SORRY.
I GOT IT AS, AS PART OF AN EMAIL.
IN FACT, I GOT MULTIPLE EMAILS, NEIGHBORHOOD THAT DON'T HAVE COMPUTERS AND DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW TO USE THAT.
THEY MAY HAVE CELL PHONES, BUT I, I HAVE A REALLY DEEP DIVE, SO I AGREE WITH ALL THE OTHER COMMENTS.
UM, NOT EVERYONE HAS AN EMAIL ADDRESS.
AND NOT ONLY THAT, THE, YOU ALSO HAVE THE ISSUE, EVEN IF YOU MADE THE ABILITY OR HAD THE ABILITY TO DO A HUNDRED PERCENT COMMUNICATION, UH, WE COMMUNICATED WITH, UH, MY ENTIRE SUBDIVISION FOR AN ANNUAL MEETING, AND OUT OF THAT I HAD APPROXIMATELY 22% RESPONSE RATE.
SO EVEN, EVEN IF YOU DO HAVE THAT ABILITY, YOU, YOU MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE INDIVIDUALS ACTUALLY READING IT, OR IN SOME CASES ACTUALLY BLOCKED THE INFORMATION.
SO YEAH, IT'S AN ISSUE THAT YOU JUST HAVE TO KEEP TRYING AND TRYING AND TRYING AND YOU USE MULTIMEDIA.
AND WE USE MULTIMEDIA IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE FOR NOTIFICATION.
SO IT'S KEEP TRYING AND WE'LL KEEP TRYING TO DO BETTER.
I THINK THERE'S A COMMENT OR QUESTION ON THAT END OVER THERE.
UM, THIS MIGHT BE A QUESTION TOWARDS COUNSEL.
IT SEEMS THAT, UM, THERE'S SOME DISSATISFACTION ON THE BOARD WITH THE COMMUNICATION AND OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL PEOPLE TO, UM, PARTICIPATE.
AND IT WAS, THE TIMELINE THAT WAS GIVEN WAS STATED THAT IS PROPOSED, BUT NOT SOLID.
IS THERE A POSSIBILITY IF WE MAKE A MOTION TO VOTE TO REOPEN THE APPLICATION PROCESS AND FOLLOW WHERE EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER WOULD GET THE NOTIFICATION WITH A REQUEST TO SEND IT OUT THROUGH THEIR NEWSLETTERS AND THAT TIMELINE TO BE FOLLOWED? IT WOULD DELAY THE PROCESS FOR THE VOTING, BUT I THINK IT SOUNDS MORE EQUITABLE FOR THE CITIZENS.
I I DON'T THINK THAT'S A LEGAL QUESTION.
UM, THAT IS MORE OF A POLICY IN DEVELOP IN REGARDS TO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
SECONDLY, THE ASSUMPTION IS IF WE DELAY IT, WE CAN TELL CITY COUNCIL AND THE, AND THOSE INDIVIDUAL DISTRICTS HOW TO NOTIFY AND PROVIDE NOTICE, UH, TO THE CITIZENRY.
UM, AND THE ASSUMPTION IS IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN DIFFERENTLY IF WE POSTPONE IT.
WE DO NOT HAVE CONTROL OVER HOW EACH DISTRICT COMMUNICATES WITH THEIR, UM, CONSTITUENTS.
SO, UH, WHILE I, I DO BELIEVE THAT'S GOING TO DELAY IT, IT'S NOT GOING TO ENSURE WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR.
AND THAT IS TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS, EVERYBODY THAT WANTS TO BE INVOLVED IS INVOLVED.
UM, THE ASSUMPTION IS, UM, THE ONLY REASON EVERYBODY THAT WANTS TO BE INVOLVED ISN'T INVOLVED IS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T GET NOTICE.
UM, SO I, I WOULD CAUTION AGAINST THAT.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S A LEGAL QUESTION.
UH, SO I DON'T KNOW IF I'M PROPERLY THE PERSON TO ANSWER IT.
UM, YEAH, SO I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA LEAVE IT AT THAT.
I THINK THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE IS THAT WE JUMPED IN, IN THE PROCESS, WE DIDN'T EXPLAIN WHAT ICC IS AND THE PROCESS THAT THEY GO THROUGH IN ORDER TO REVISE THE, THE CODE EVERY THREE YEARS, HOW EXTENSIVE THAT IS, HOW THE OUTREACH IS, HOW MUCH, UH, HOW MANY PEOPLE PARTICIPATE.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE INCLUDE THE FIRE MARSHALS THAT ACTUALLY PARTICIPATE IN, UH, WE HAVE CONSUMER PRODUCT SAFETY COMMISSION, UH, PROVIDE FIRE RELATED TO SAFETY DATA.
ALL OF THAT IS FACTORED IN, IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CODE.
WHAT WE'RE LOOKING REALLY TO DO IS TO TAKE THAT CODE, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, FOR ANY MUNICIPALITY CAN ADOPT IT, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT, IT FITS INTO SAN ANTONIO'S LEGAL FRAMEWORK.
AND OF COURSE, TEXAS IS SET UP VERY DIFFERENTLY FROM ALL OTHER STATES.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE A CITY CHARTER.
AND SO IT MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT HERE FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS.
SO I THINK WE JUST JUMPED THE GUN A LITTLE BIT AND NOT EXPLAINING THE ICC PROCESS, HOW THOROUGH THAT IS, HOW MANY COMMENTS THEY WOULD'VE RECEIVED, THAT IT DOES INCLUDE GOVERNMENT, IT INCLUDES THE PUBLIC, BUT IT ALSO INCLUDES ALL THE DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS.
AND, AND THEY HAVE VERY EXTENSIVE, UH, OUTREACH TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE PARTICIPATING IN THOSE.
I, I DO WANNA MAKE, THIS IS LEGAL AGAIN, I DO WANNA MAKE SURE, UM, THE PROCESS FOR THE AMENDMENTS IS STILL OPEN.
WHAT IS CLOSED IS SOMEONE HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIT ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE.
UM, IT DOES NOT, UM, PREVENT ANY CITIZENS FROM COMING IN AND EXPRESSING THEIR OPINION, EXPRESSING HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT IT, WHAT THEY SHOULD HAPPEN, WHAT, WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN.
AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, DANNY, I DON'T BELIEVE IT ALSO PREVENTS THEM FROM, UM, ISSUING EMAILS TO SUGGEST, UM, SOME CHANGES.
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ROSEN, I, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE REQUESTING, AND I, I, I THINK MS. MIRANDA MIGHT, UM, ECHO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE, UM, POSSIBLE, NOR DO I BELIEVE, WOULD IT, UM, UM, ACHIEVE THE DESIRED GOAL? I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD.
I, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO TALK FOR A, A MINUTE NOW.
UM, FIRST I, I WANT TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THE LAST ROUND, WE DID HAVE FOUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
WE DID HAVE 27 TO 29 APPLICATIONS, AND WE HAVE TWO THIS TIME THAT SHOWS A VERY DIFFERENT PROCESS OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
NUMBERS DON'T LIE, YOU CANNOT MOVE AROUND THAT IN ANY WAY.
PART OF THE REASON THAT WE ASKED FOR THE, FOR THE, THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO GET VOTING POWER WAS BECAUSE THE LAST ROUND, I WAS THE VICE CHAIR.
I, A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WERE TALKED OVER, WERE INTERRUPTED, AND THEY DID NOT FEEL SATISFIED WITH THE, WITH THEIR INPUT BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT VOTE.
WE CAN HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS, BUT PUBLIC COMMENT DOES NOT GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO VOTE ON A PANEL.
AND IT IT, IF WE'RE ALSO MAKING THIS BOARD ACCORDING TO THE NUMBER, UH, FOUR OR ONE LESS THAN THE BOARD.
IF WE ACCEPT BOTH, THEN IT'S A FIVE PANEL, FIVE PERSON PANEL DOING THIS.
THAT'S, THAT'S VERY SMALL NUMBER OF PEOPLE.
IF YOU GOT SIX BOARD MEMBERS AND FOUR FOUR TO SIX, FOUR TO SIX, AND THEN ONE LESS.
OH, I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE, BUT IF WE ONLY HAVE TWO APPOINTEES, THEN THAT WOULD BE EIGHT.
YOU SAID YOU'RE STILL DOING THE SAME NUMBER OF BOARD MEMBERS NO MATTER WHAT.
IT, IT, IT'S UP TO THE EXCUSE ME CHAIR.
AND WE CAN ENSURE THAT THE MICROPHONES ARE BEING IN USE SINCE THE MEETING IS BEING RECORDED AND LIVE STREAMED.
I, I DO WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR AS WE GET INTO THIS CONVERSATION.
SCHEDULING, RESCHEDULING IS NOT AN OPTION.
IT'S NOT, COUNSEL HAS ALREADY MADE THE DECISION.
AND WHILE, AGAIN, I, I DO NOT WANT TO, UM, SUPPRESS ANYBODY VOTING THEIR FEELINGS.
I WANNA MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT CHANGING.
IT'S, IT'S, CITY COUNCIL HAS ALREADY MADE THE DECISION.
SO AS DANNY IS SITTING HERE TRYING TO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS, JENNY IS MYSELF.
AND WHILE I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE BOARD IS WANTING, AND I UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION OF SOME MEMBERS, UNLESS YOU GET CITY COUNCIL TO CHANGE THEIR MIND, WE ARE, WE'RE PREACHING TO THE CHOIR.
UM, I, I CAN TELL YOU, WE HAVE A, UM, WE HAVE A BIG AGENDA.
WE STILL HAVE, UM, EXECUTIVE SESSION TO EVEN START BEFORE WE GET INTO EVERYTHING ELSE.
I'M NOT TRYING TO QUELL THIS CONVERSATION, BUT I DO WANNA MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND WHY WE, UM, WE DEFINITELY WANT YOU TO EXPRESS HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT IT.
I DO WANNA MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE POWER OKAY.
WE WILL GO TO AN ISSUE OF ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT GO TO THE PROCESS ITSELF.
OTHERWISE WE WILL TABLE THE DISCUSSION.
JUST IF, IF CHAIR, IF I MAY JUST QUICKLY, I WANNA AHEAD CLARIFY.
UH, SO THE SUBCOMMITTEE IS REQUIRED TO HAVE AT LEAST FOUR MEMBERS FROM THE BOARD, UM, AND NO MORE THAN SIX.
SO AGAIN, TO YOUR POINT, IT'S FOUR TO SIX, RIGHT? SO ULTIMATELY YOU GUYS WILL DECIDE THAT NUMBER OF SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBERS FROM THE BOARD.
OKAY? UH, DANNY, ONE QUESTION.
THIS IS FRED ANDES ON THE TIMES OF THE 23RD AND THE 25TH.
IS THERE, LIKE WE DID LAST TIME, SOMETIMES WE WENT OVER, IS THAT FILTERED INTO THIS? SO THE, THAT, THAT'S JUST A TENTATIVE, UH, KICKOFF DATE RIGHT NOW.
UM, AND THAT'S BASED ON ROOM AVAILABILITY, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE SEVERAL OTHER ICC AMENDMENT PROCESSES THAT ARE GOING ON RIGHT NOW, UH, WITH THE BUILDING FIRE RELATED CODES, RIGHT ALONG WITH OUR M-R-E-U-A-P-R, WHICH IS OUR SALVAGE YARD METAL RECYCLING US AUTO PARTS, UH, AS WELL.
SO THERE'S SEVERAL TASK FORCE, SEVERAL COMMITTEE MEETINGS THAT ARE GOING ON.
THOSE ARE THE DATES THAT WERE AVAILABLE.
UM, RIGHT NOW, WELL, I'M, I'M TALKING ABOUT THAT TIMEFRAME.
REMEMBER LAST TIME, SOMETIMES WE WENT OVER THE ALLOTTED TIMES.
SO WE, WE, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GO OVER, WE'D HAVE TO LOCK INTO THOSE TIMES.
SO IT'D BE NINE TO 11 AND TWO TO FOUR FOR THOSE DATES RIGHT NOW, ONCE WE SECURE THE DATES DOWN THE ROAD, WE CAN DECIDE WHETHER WE WANNA HAVE A THREE HOUR MEETING, TWO HOUR MEETING, ONE HOUR MEETING, WHATEVER YOU DECIDE.
IT'S GONNA BE UP TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE TO DETERMINE.
AND THE SECOND PART IS, IS LIKE SOMETIMES WE HAD TO CANCEL SOME OF THE DATES.
IS THERE GONNA BE ROOM IF WE'RE HAVING AN ISSUE WITH OTHER BOARDS TO FIND SPACE FOR ANOTHER MEETING IF WE HAVE TO CANCEL LIKE WE DID BEFORE? DEFINITELY.
I THINK AT THE SAME TIME WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE HOPING THAT WE CAN GET ALL THIS REVIEWED AND COMPLETED AGAIN BASED ON THE NUMBER OF AMENDMENTS THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY, UH, COMPLETED BY DECEMBER, WHICH WOULD GIVE US REALLY THE LATTER PART OF OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER TO START REVIEWING AND GET 'EM, UH, COMPLETED.
THEN, THEN I'M GONNA ACTUALLY BRING IT TO THE BOARD
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IN TERMS OF VOLUNTEERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO SERVE ON THAT COMMITTEE AT THE PRESENT TIME.I WOULD LIKE TO, MR. MR. CHAIR, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND, AND HAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION DO THAT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
WELL, I'VE GOT ONE MORE QUESTION THOUGH.
WE'LL DO THAT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
ANYTHING ELSE, DANNY? NO, SIR.
UH, THE TIME IS NOW 9 46 ON 10 OCTOBER, THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD WILL RECESS, UH, FROM THE OPEN MEETING AND CONVENE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSULT WITH LEGAL COUNSEL TO DISCUSS ATTORNEY-CLIENT MATTERS PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 5 1 0.07, ONE OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE OFFICIAL.
THE TIME IS NOW 10 29 ON 10 OCTOBER, 2024.
THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD, UH, WILL RECONVENE AN OPEN SESSION.
UH, WE DO HAVE ONE ISSUE, UH, ONE, UH, EVENT THAT WE HAVE RESOLVED IN A, IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.
THAT IS THE STRUCTURE OF THE COMMITTEE FOR THE CHANGES OR UPDATES TO PREVENTING MAINTENANCE CODE.
UH, THE COMMITTEE IS GOING TO BE BUILT FROM TWO, UH, PEOPLE WHO HAVE INDICATED THEY WANTED TO BE ON THE COMMITTEE.
THAT IS JASON VASQUEZ AND CLAY THOMPSON.
AND THEN FROM THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD, A MIX OF BOTH EXPERIENCED PEOPLE, MEANING THEY'VE BEEN AROUND FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS AND THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR A SHORTER PERIOD OF TIME.
AND THAT COMMITTEE IS GOING TO BE KAYLA ORLANDO, UH, FRED ANDIS, UH, JOEL AND, UH, THOMAS FRANKS.
AND THEN THERE WILL BE THREE SUBSTITUTES THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE.
UH, THAT WILL BE MYSELF, UH, ANNE, AND ALSO ETTE.
UH, SO THOSE INDIVIDUALS WILL BE AVAILABLE, UH, IF ONE OF THE FIRM MEMBERS CANNOT BE PRESENT.
UH, ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS FROM THE BOARD ON THAT ARE CORRECTIONS TO THE CHAIR? VERY GOOD.
WE HAVE THAT COMMITTEE FORMED AND THE FIRST MEETING IS GOING TO BE AT NINE O'CLOCK ON THE 23RD OF OCTOBER.
UH, AND AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THE GROUP WILL SELECT A CHAIRPERSON, UH, FOR THE COMMITTEE.
IF I COULD JUST REPEAT THE NAMES FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEE.
KAYLA MIRANDA, DR. LINDA LOPEZ RODRIGUEZ, FRED ANDIS, JOEL SOLIS, THOMAS FRANKS WITH SUBSTITUTES DWAYNE NELSON AND WEINER ROLLETTE GHOST.
UH, AND YOU DID GET THE TWO INDIVIDUALS FROM THOSE NAMES? YES.
THOSE NAMES I HAVE ARE CLAY THOMPSON AND JASON VASQUEZ.
DANNY, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR UPDATES THAT WE NEED TO ADD FROM YOU? AGAIN, UH, DANIEL LEE IS CODE ENFORCEMENT ADMINISTRATOR.
UH, NO, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR, UM, MAKING A DECISION ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE.
UM, LOOK FORWARD TO AN EMAIL FROM OUR STAFF FOR THE, UH, KICKOFF MEETING, OCTOBER 23RD.
UH, WE'LL GET THAT OUT THIS AFTERNOON, UH, FOR THOSE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, UM, THAT ARE GONNA BE PART OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE.
I HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION, DANNY, EXCUSE ME.
I'M, I, I MISUNDERSTOOD, UH, ON YOUR DATES.
THE FIRST TWO DATES ARE SET, CORRECT? OCTOBER? YEAH, THOSE ARE TWO TENTATIVE DATES THAT WE WANTED TO SHARE THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW FOR A KICKOFF MEETING.
WELL, THERE, THERE, THERE'S A PLACEHOLDER.
WE'RE RESERVING THE ROOM FOR THOSE FOR THE MEETING.
SO DO WE NEED TO DECIDE THAT NOW OR? I, I, I, I UNDERSTOOD.
SO THE OTHER DATES AFTER, 'CAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT IT BEING ALREADY A CONGESTED POOL RIGHT NOW.
SO THE OTHER DATES, WE DO HAVE SOME TENTATIVE DATES AS WELL.
UH, WE'LL SHARE THAT WITH THE SUBCOMMITTEE.
UH, THERE'LL BE LIKE A DOODLE POLL OR SOME KIND OF SURVEY THAT GOES OUT.
AND OF COURSE, BASED ON THE MAJORITY RIGHT, WE WILL START LOCKING IN THOSE DATES AS WELL.
AND WE'LL BE COMMUNICATING WITH JUDY AND ESSENCE ON WHO'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THE MEETING, WHO WON'T BE ABLE TO MAKE THE MEETING, AND WE'LL CO CONTACT THE INDIVIDUAL SUBSTITUTES TO BE ABLE TO FILL IN FOR THAT.
IS THAT CORRECT? FOR THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? JUDY? YOU'LL BE THE POINT OF CONTACT FOR US.
UH, SORRY, DO YOU WANNA BE THE POINT OF CONTACT IF, IF, IF YOU COULD INCLUDE MYSELF AND JENNY? UH, JUDY'S FINE.
WE'LL, WE'LL WORK, YOU KNOW, SHE'LL BE PART OF THE PROCESS AS WELL, BUT IT'LL BE OUR POLICY TEAM THAT WILL BE KIND OF LEADING THROUGH THE ADMINISTRATIVE STUFF.
AND SO WHY DON'T WE COME DIRECTLY TO YOU THEN AND THEN PROVIDE CCS TO JUDY AND TO, UH, JENNY.
SO THE POINT OF PRIMARY POINT OF CONTACT AND YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YEAH.
SO THEY WILL BE ON WEDNESDAYS.
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SO THE FIRST KICKOFF MEETING WILL BE WEDNESDAY.UH, THE SUBCOMMITTEE WILL DECIDE WHICH DATES, UH, TO MEET.
JUST SO, UM, I PUT IT ON MY CALENDAR.
IT'S EITHER THE 23 OR THE 25TH.
NOT BOTH DATES? NO, I, IF I UNDERSTOOD CORRECTLY, MR. NELSON, I THINK WE DECIDED ON THE 23RD FOR THE KICKOFF MEETING, CORRECT.
23RD WAS THE KICKOFF MEETING? YES.
AND THEN THE 25TH WOULD BE A SECOND MEETING? THE 25TH WOULD BE A SECOND MEETING? YES.
IF, IF, IF, AGAIN, IF THE CUP SUBCOMMITTEE DECIDES TO MEET ON THE 25TH AS WELL, AGAIN, THAT WOULD LEAD UP TO SUBCOMMITTEE THEN.
WE DECIDE THAT THEN AT THIS TIME WE'LL DO IT WITH THE FIRST COMMITTEE.
WE JUST WANTED TO PROPOSE TWO, TWO DATES FOR THE KICKOFF AND THEN YOU GUYS DECIDE WHICH OTHER MEETINGS, YOU KNOW.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I PUT 'EM ON MY CALENDAR NOW BECAUSE IT FILLS UP.
SO, SO THE KICKOFF WILL BE THE 23RD 9 2 11 MR. CHAIR.
NOT TO SAY THAT THE 25TH WOULD NOT BE AN ACCEPTABLE DATE, IS THAT CORRECT? NO, IT, IT'S, IT'S OPEN AS WELL.
IF YOU DECIDE MR. CHAIR, THIS IS MELISSA RAMIREZ.
I'M THE INTERIM DEPUTY DIRECTOR.
I BELIEVE Y'ALL HAVE IDENTIFIED, UH, THE 23RD AS THE FIRST DATE FOR THE KICKOFF.
AND WE WILL BE SENDING OUT AN EMAIL CALENDAR INVITE TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBERS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ON YOUR CALENDAR AT THAT MEETING.
YOU WILL THEN TAKE A POLL, UM, TO, AND FINALIZE THE NEXT, UM, SEVERAL MEETINGS THAT WE WILL BE MEETING.
AND WE WILL ALSO SEND OUT CALENDAR INVITES FOR THAT AS WELL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? VERY GOOD, THANKS.
UH, WHEN WE ARE SPEAKING FROM THE BOARD, MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING INTO A MICROPHONE SO THAT THE PUBLIC WILL BE ABLE TO HEAR THE CONVERSATION, UH, ADEQUATELY.
THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA BOARD, NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA WILL BE EXACTLY WHAT'S UP ON SCREEN TO SELECT THE BOARD CHAIR.
WE'RE BACK ON TRACK WITH OUR, UH, AGENDA ITEMS. OKAY.
THE NOMINATIONS THEN WILL BE OPEN FOR A BOARD CHAIR.
MR. CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE MYSELF FOR THE CHAIR OF THE BOARD.
MR. ANDES, ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? CAN I NOMINATE YOU? I'M SORRY, SAY AGAIN? CAN I NOMINATE YOU? YOU CAN BOARD CHAIR.
I NOMINATE YOU, BUT YOU DO NOT HAVE TO
ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? LAST CALL.
ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? THE TWO CANDIDATES ARE GONNA BE MS. STRANDIS AND MYSELF.
AND IF YOU WOULD PLEASE DO A ROLL CALL.
WE CAN GET A SECOND FOR BOTH NOMINATIONS.
I'M SORRY, SAY AGAIN A SECOND TO BOTH NOMINATIONS.
I, I SECOND THE NOMINATIONS STATE BECAUSE YOU GOT INDIVIDUAL VOTE.
ARE YOU READY FOR ROLL CALL? WHEN I STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHO YOU WOULD LIKE TO VOTE FOR, PLEASE.
I'M SORRY, I DID NOT UNDERSTAND.
WHEN I STATE YOUR NAME, IF YOU CAN PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHICH MEMBER YOU WOULD LIKE TO VOTE.
STATE YOUR NAME, STATE YOUR NAME, AND THE PERSON THAT YOU'RE VOTING FOR WHEN YOU VOTE.
ALINDA, LOPEZ, RODRIGUEZ, DUANE, KAYLA, MIRANDA.
DWAYNE NELSON, JOEL SOLIS, DWAYNE NELSON, ROBERT TAPIA, FRED ANDES AND WEINER.
WE HAVE A TALLY OF FIVE TO SIX FOR MR. NELSON WITH ONE ABSTENTION.
THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS, UH, ACTUALLY MELISSA, ARE YOU READY FOR THE IN? OKAY.
'CAUSE WE WERE READY TO BE FLEXIBLE IF YOU COULD NOT EXCUSE ME,
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MR. CHAIR.UH, FLORE IS OPEN FOR VICE CHAIR AND THE CHAIR WILL NOMINATE FRED ANDIS AS VICE CHAIR AND I SECOND THE NOMINATION OF FRED ANDIS.
ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS FOR VICE CHAIR? WE WILL DO IT AS A VOICE VOTE.
ALL IN FAVOR OF MR. ANDES AS VICE CHAIR SAY AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY OR THOSE ABSTAINING.
AND NOW, THEN WITHOUT OBJECTION, WE WILL GO TO THE INTERIM DIRECTOR'S REPORT.
MELISSA RAMIREZ, INTERIM DEPUTY DIRECTOR FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
UH, I'M HERE TO PROVIDE YOU AN UPDATE ON OUR PERFORMANCE MEASURES.
AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN, WE HAVE BEEN, UH, VERY BUSY OVER THE LAST YEAR.
UH, THERE IS, UH, IDENTIFY IDENTIFYING YEAR TO DATE OVER 90,000, UH, PROACTIVE CASES THAT WE HAVE DONE OVER 63,000 REACTIVE CASES.
AND FOR OUR, UH, GOALS, RESPONSE RATES FOR TIER ONE AND TIER TWO HAVE BOTH BEEN MET.
OUR PROACTIVITY RATE AT 65%, WE, UH, WERE YEAR TO DATE AT 79%.
AND THEN OUR COMPLIANCE RATE AT 91% AND YOU CAN SEE THERE AS WELL AS OUR GRAFFITI ABATEMENTS AND OUR TURNAROUND TIMES.
AND THEN JUDY, IF YOU CAN SCROLL DOWN TO THE NEXT, WE HAVE A COMPARISON.
DO YOU HAVE THE COMPARISON FOR LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR? THERE YOU GO.
SO THIS SHOW SHOWS THE COMPARISON FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR AND THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE.
THERE IS A SLIGHT, UH, DECREASE FROM LAST YEAR'S RATE OF PROACTIVE CASES, BUT AN INCREASE IN REACTIVE CASES.
SO THERE YOU CAN STILL, STILL SEE THAT WE HAVE MET PERFORMANCE THIS YEAR.
DO I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS THIS TIME? YEAH, GEORGE.
WHAT, WHAT IS A PROACTIVE CASE AND WHAT IS A REACTIVE CASE? SO A REACTIVE CA PRO, I'LL START WITH THE PROACTIVE CASE.
UM, THE, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GONNA GET A PHONE CALL, UM, ABOUT SOME ITEMS THAT SOMEBODY SEES IN SOMEONE'S YARD OR A CASE THAT'S BEEN CALLED IN TO 3 1 1.
AND WE'RE GONNA GO OUT THERE AND TAKE CARE OF THOSE AS WE'RE DRIVING TO THOSE LOCATIONS.
THERE POTENTIALLY COULD BE SOME SITUATIONS WHERE WE SEE SOME VIOLATIONS ON THE WAY OVER THERE.
THOSE ARE GONNA BE THE REACTIVE CASES.
PROACTIVE, YOU MEANT PROACTIVE.
THE OTHER WAY AROUND JENNY'S CORRECTED ME.
I DID IT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
THE REACTIVE IS WHEN WE GET A THREE ONE ONE CALL OR OTHER KIND OF CALL FROM OUTSIDE AND THEN THE STAFF REACTS TO THAT CALL.
SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU SAY THE STAFF IS REACTING TO AN OUTSIDE CALL.
SO WHERE DO WAS, UH, THE FIRES, THE FIRE SITUATIONS, ARE THEY, DO YOU CONSIDER THEM, UH, REACTIVE? THOSE ARE GONNA BE THE TIER ONE.
SO THEY, THAT THAT IS A, A SAFETY, UM, MECHANISM.
BUT THOSE WE, IF WE'RE GETTING CALLS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO THOSE TO MAKE SURE IF THE BUILDING IS SAFE OR, MM-HMM.
AND I DON'T KNOW SIR, MR. GRIMES, IF YOU WERE DONE, UH, SO YOU SAID ON THE, UH, PROACTIVE CASES IS WHEN THE INSPECTOR IS GOING TO ANOTHER CASE AND, AND HAPPENS TO SEE SOMETHING THAT'S A VIOLATION? I'M, UH, YES.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, DO THE, UH, OFFICERS JUST PATROL A CERTAIN AREA ON A WE DO, YES SIR.
WE HAVE DEDICATED OFFICERS IN, UH, ALL DISTRICTS AND SO, UM, AT TIMES IF WE HAVE AN OVERLOAD OF CALLS, WE WILL SHIFT AS NEEDED.
BUT THEY TYPICALLY ARE DEDICATED TO SPECIAL DISTRICTS OR DISTRICT 1, 2, 3.
THEY'RE IDENTIFIED TO A DISTRICT.
JUDY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD BRING UP OUR MAPS ONLINE.
WE DO HAVE SOME MAPS PUBLISHED ONLINE WHERE WE DO HAVE THE STAFF ASSIGNMENTS FOR OUR REGULAR FIELD STAFF.
THEY GET CALLED INTO 3 1 1 AND WILL RECEIVE IT BY GIS LOCATION.
AND THAT'S HOW THE AUTOMATIC ASSIGNMENTS COME OUT FOR REACTIVE CALLS.
BUT MY QUESTION IS, IF, IF AN OFFICER IS NOT HEADED TO A PLACE WHERE THERE'S A CALL, DID, DID THEY JUST PATROL
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THEIR AREA? YES, SIR.GEORGIE, WAS THAT COMPLETE THE QUESTION? OKAY.
MS. STRANDIS, YOU HAD A QUESTION? YES, I DO.
UM, THIS IS YOUR FIRST TIME IN FRONT OF THE BOARD, CORRECT? IN FRONT OF THE, WELL, I'VE BEEN TO THIS BOARD SEVERAL TIMES, BUT AT THE PODIUM, YES.
UH, WELCOME ABOARD AND THANK YOU.
UM, I GOT ONE THAT'S ON THE, UH, THE SITE ABATEMENT.
NOW WE'RE DOWN THIS YEAR BY THE STAT.
ARE THERE STILL CASES OUT THERE THAT ARE STILL PENDING FROM THIS YEAR? WE HAVE A FEW THAT ARE PROCESSING, BUT I WOULDN'T SAY THEY'RE PENDING.
SO THEY, THEY'RE NOT GONNA MAKE THIS NUMBER.
SO THEY'RE STARTING A NEW YES SIR.
ANY QUESTIONS? AND I'M JUST GONNA LOOK BACK TO JENNY AND DANNY.
DID I MISS ANYTHING? NO, MA'AM.
UH, DANNY HAS ALREADY HIT A AND B ON THE STAFF UPDATES.
SO DEMOLITION PROCESS FROM LEGAL.
UH, I DO WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE DEMOLITION ORDER THAT THIS BOARD, UM, SOMETIMES GIVES.
I'M NOT HERE TO TALK TO YOU IN THE LEGAL SENSE ON THE DEMOLITION PROCESS, ALTHOUGH AT A LATER TIME, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THIS BOARD WANTS TO DISCUSS, WE CAN.
UM, TODAY WHAT I WANT TO DO IS JUST KIND OF DISCUSS AND KIND OF MAKE SURE YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENS AFTER YOU'VE GIVEN THE DEMOLITION ORDER.
MY PRESENTATION IS GOING TO BE GENERIC.
IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS THAT I CAN'T ANSWER, WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING OVER AT DANNY.
UH, BUT I DO WANT TO KIND OF MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THIS BOARD DOES UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON AND ALSO, UH, WHEN THIS BOARD ORDERS A, UH, A DEMOLITION ORDER WITHIN 30 DAYS, THE SECRET QUESTION IS, IS IT REALLY HAPPENING IN 30 DAYS? THAT'S, THAT'S THE QUESTION I'M GONNA LET YOU GUYS KNOW.
SO, UM, WHAT I WANTED TO DO IS JUST GIVE YOU, PROVIDE A QUICK ROADMAP ON THE PROCESS.
ONCE THIS BOARD ORDERS A PROPERTY, UM, ORDERS OR GIVES OUT A DEMOLITION ORDER, UM, MAJORITY AND DEFAULT ORDER THAT THIS BOARD GIVES IS 30 DAYS.
THIS BOARD DOES HAVE THE AUTHORITY AND THE RIGHT TO, UM, UH, GIVE THE OWNER, UM, OR THE, UM, UH, RESPONSIBLE PARTY A LITTLE LONGER BASED ON WHATEVER TESTIMONY THAT'S THAT'S GIVEN.
UM, AND THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES, AND HOPEFULLY THIS BOARD DOES REMEMBER WHERE THERE HAVE BEEN OWNERS THAT COME IN AND AGREE WITH, UM, MAYBE A RECOMMENDATION GIVEN BY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES OR THEY WANT TO DEMOLISH THE PROPERTY, BUT THEY MIGHT NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME IN GETTING THAT DONE.
UH, THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY PROBLEM WITH THIS BOARD GIVING THAT, BUT HAVING SAID THAT, UM, 30 DAYS IS PRETTY MUCH THE, UM, DEFAULT.
ALSO, I WANNA MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT ALTHOUGH THIS BOARD DOES GIVE 30 DAYS AND THOSE, AGAIN, THE DEFAULT, UM, DEMOLITION ORDER IS, IS 30 DAYS.
UM, YOUR 30 DAYS DOES NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE OR OWNER OR ANY INTERESTED PARTY'S RIGHT TO APPEAL.
UM, SO, UM, THOSE ARE THE THINGS I KIND OF WANT TO DISCUSS AND WANT TO, UH, BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION.
SO LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
SO, AS I HAD STATED BEFORE, DEMOLITION ORDER IS HANDED DOWN.
THIS BOARD, UM, CAN GIVE THAT DEADLINE CAN EXTEND IT BASED ON, UM, THE SITUATION.
IT IS A, UH, THIS BOARD USUALLY SHOULD, UM, HANDLE THINGS ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.
UM, WHETHER YOU'RE GONNA GIVE A DEMOLITION ORDER IS GREAT, BUT IF YOU WANT TO EXTEND THAT TIME BASED ON THE SITUATION OR THE TESTIMONY GIVEN, YOU CAN, WHEN DOES THE 30 DAYS START? WHEN DOES THE TIMELINE START? THAT TIMELINE STARTS THE DAY THAT IT IS SIGNED AND MAILED OUT, AND THOSE SHOULD BE HAPPENING ON THE SAME DAY.
SO LET ME MAKE SURE WE, IT IS, ALTHOUGH I SAY IT'S SIGNED AND MAILED OUT, IT STARTS THE DAY IT IS MAILED OUT.
SO YOUR 30 DAYS DOES NOT START THE DAY THAT YOU ORDER THE PROPERTY TO BE DEMOLISHED.
UM, THOSE ORDERS FIRST HAVE TO BE DRAFTED.
UM, SO LEGAL IS RESPONSIBLE FOR DRAFTING THOSE.
I'LL HAVE LUCINDA LOOK AT 'EM SECRETLY.
WE WILL ALSO HAVE, UM, UM, JUDY LOOK AT THEM.
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I GET MAKE SURE THAT SHE GETS THEM.SHE WILL HAVE THE, UM, UH, CHAIR, UM, SIGN THOSE.
AND ON THE DAY THAT THEY'RE SIGNED AND NOTARIZED, THEN THEY ARE GETTING MAILED OUT.
OKAY? SO IT'S 30 DAYS FROM THAT DAY.
OKAY? SO, UM, THE 30 DAY DEADLINE EXPIRES.
I WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR ON THIS BEFORE WE GET TO THAT 30 DAY DEADLINE EXPIRES ONCE, UM, THE DEMOLITION ORDER HAS BEEN MAILED OUT, AGAIN, THE CLOCK HAS STARTED 30 DAYS.
THAT'S 30 DAYS FOR THE DEMOLITION.
IT'S ALSO STARTS A SEPARATE CLOCK, 30 DAYS TO APPEAL.
SO IF SOMEONE, UM, FILES AN APPEAL, LET'S SAY ON THE 15TH DAY, THE 30 DAY DEMOLITION TIMELINE STOPS, IT JUST STOPS.
WE ARE NO LONGER COUNTING THOSE 30 DAYS PUT IN A STOP ORDER.
IT'S, IT'S IN ESSENCE, IT'S A STOP.
NOW, UM, THE PROPERTY OWNER THAT APPEALED SHOULD NOT BE WORKING ON HIS PROPERTY AND THERE SHOULD BE, UM, GUARDS AGAINST HIM BEING ABLE TO, SUCH AS CAN'T PULL ANY PERMITS.
AND THAT AGAIN, THAT IS SOMETHING BEHIND THE SCENES THAT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ADMINISTRATION AND STAFF HAS ALREADY HANDLED.
MOST LIKELY, IF THAT PERSON IS DOING IT, HE'S DOING IT OR SHE IS DOING IT WITHOUT PERMITS.
BUT I DO WANNA MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND, ONCE A 30 DAY DEMOTION ORDER IS GIVEN AND IT'S APPEALED, THAT 30 DAY DEADLINE STOPS.
OKAY? SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S TWO SEPARATE PATHS.
APPEAL HAS BEEN FILED, APPEAL HAS NOT BEEN FILED.
LET'S GO TO THE NEXT ONE OR AFTER, WE'LL GO TO IT AFTER THIS ONE.
SO, ONCE THAT 30 DAY DEADLINE STARTS, IRRESPECTIVE OF, OF ANY APPEAL BEING FILED, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES HAS A ROUTINE THAT CODE OFFICER THAT ENDED UP GETTING THAT DEMOLITION ORDER, THAT DP OFFICER, UM, LET'S USE, UM, UM, LET'S USE MISS TOWN, CRYSTAL TOWN, FOR EXAMPLE.
SHE NOW IS RESPONSIBLE TO NOT ONLY MONITOR THAT PROPERTY, MAKE SURE SHE DOES RE-INSPECTIONS IF NEED BE, MAKE SURE THERE'S NO WORK BEING DONE ON PERMITTED WORK.
IF SO, SHE NEEDS TO DO A STOP WORK ORDER.
SHE MIGHT BE, SHE MIGHT HAVE TO ISSUE CITATIONS, BUT THAT DP OFFICER, IT IS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO KIND OF KEEP TRACK, KEEP AN EYE ON THAT, ON THAT HOUSE, MAKE SURE NO ADDITIONAL WORK IS BEING DONE.
THEY DON'T NEED TO KEEP TRACK OF, IS IT THE 39TH DAY OR, OR CAN I GO IN? THAT IS DONE BY ADMINISTRATION.
JUDY, AM I CORRECT ON THAT? AND I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, YOU GUYS SHOULD ALREADY KNOW IF YOU WANT AN ANSWER IN REGARDS TO, UM, THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD TIMELINE APPEALS, OR ANYTHING YOU ASK JUDY.
THAT'S, THAT IS THE PERSON YOU WANT TO KNOW WHERE LEGAL GETS THERE INFORMATION FROM.
SO, UM, THAT CODE OFFICIAL THAT IS MONITORING THE PROPERTY, MAKING SURE NOTHING ELSE IS GOING, IS, IS HAPPENING ON THAT PROPERTY, UM, THEY WILL GET NOTIFIED BY, UM, CODE ADMIN OR THE ADMINISTRATION SIDE.
UH, WHEN THAT 30 DAY APPEAL PERIOD HAS EXPIRED, HOW DOES THAT ADMINISTRATION FIND OUT? THEY CALL LEGAL.
IT'S LIKE THE SYMBIOTIC RELATIONSHIP.
WE ALL FEED ON EACH OTHER AND DEPEND ON EACH OTHER.
BUT WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS, UM, THAT 30 DAY DEADLINE, ONCE IT'S PASSED WITHIN A FEW DAYS, JUDY USUALLY CONTACTS OUR OFFICE.
OUR, UM, UM, OUR, OUR PARALEGAL WHO IS AWESOME, AND LISA TREVINO, SHE WILL DO RESEARCH ON IT.
SHE WILL LET JUDY KNOW CC, UH, THE REST OF THE LEGAL TEAM SO WE KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING.
THE, THAT APPEAL, LET'S PRETEND LIKE THE, THE NO APPEAL HAS BEEN FILED.
THE DEMOLITION PROCESS IS GONNA CONTINUE.
AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS JUDY'S CALLED UP.
HEY, ANY APPEALS BEEN FILED? NO.
SO WHAT SHE'S GONNA DO IS SHE, SHE'S GONNA HAVE THAT CODE OFFICER CONTINUE TO PREPARE THAT PROPERTY FOR DEMOLITION WORK AND ALSO PREP THE DEMO WORK ORDER THAT'S GOING TO BE GIVEN TO THE CONTRACTOR.
BUT LET'S SAY THAT AN APPEAL HAS BEEN FILED, JUDY HAS CALLED US AND, AND, AND ELISA TREVINO HAS SAID, YES, AN APPEAL HAS BEEN FILED.
UM, I'LL SEND YOU A COPY OF THAT THING.
OR WE'VE, WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN GIVEN NOTICE, UM, WHETHER, UH, I'M THE FIRST ONE TO RESPOND, OR LUCINDA OR SOMEONE FROM
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LITIGATION, THEY WILL SAY, JUDY, OKAY, APPEAL HAS BEEN FILED.PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE PUT A STOP TO EVERYTHING AND SEND US THE RED FOLDER.
THAT RED FOLDER GOES TO LITIGATION.
AND LITIGATION WILL START TO PREPARE, UH, TO FILE AN ANSWER TO THAT, THAT CLAIM.
AND AGAIN, AS I SAID BEFORE, THAT 30, THOSE 30 DAYS STOP DEVELOPMENT SERVICES CANNOT ENFORCE YOUR BSB ORDER AT THAT TIME.
AND THEY SHOULD CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT PROPERTY IS NOT IN VIOLATION OF ANYTHING ELSE.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE TRYING TO PICK ON THEM, BUT USUALLY WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING IS ONCE AN APPEAL'S BEEN FILED, THAT MEANS THAT PERSON WANTS TO DO SOME WORK ON THE PROPERTY.
BUT IF YOU RECALL WHEN I SAID ONCE A DEMO, ONCE A, A DEMO ORDER IS GIVEN, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TAKE STEPS WHERE NO PERMIT IS BEING ABLE TO BE PULLED.
SO WHILE THEY FILE AN APPEAL AND WANNA WORK ON THAT PROPERTY, SOMETIMES WHAT THEY'LL USUALLY DO, LET ME, LET ME REPHRASE THAT.
THERE ARE TIMES WHERE WE HAVE SEEN WHERE INDIVIDUALS WILL GO AND SIT THERE AND TRY TO GET SOME WORK DONE IN THAT HOUSE AS THE APPEAL PROCESS HAS BEEN FILED AND AS WE'VE STOPPED EVERYTHING AND WE'RE TRYING TO NEGOTIATE IT, THEY'LL SECRETLY TRY TO WORK ON THAT PROPERTY THAT DP OFFICER SHOULD AND USUALLY DOES ISSUE CITATIONS IF NEED BE, PUT A STOP WORK ORDER ON IT IF NEED BE.
BUT THEY ALSO ARE IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE LITIGATION DEPARTMENT BECAUSE AGAIN, IF YOU FILED AN APPEAL, BUT THEN YOU'RE SECRETLY DOING THIS WORK, NOT ONLY ARE CITATIONS GOING TO BE ISSUED AND OR AFFIDAVITS AND OR ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING CASES, BUT ALSO, UH, UNFORTUNATELY, THOSE, UM, PROPERTY OWNERS ARE GIVING MORE AMMUNITION TO OUR LITIGATION DEPARTMENT AND FIGHTING THAT THIS APPEAL.
UM, AND THIS HAS HAPPENED RECENTLY ON A PROPERTY THAT THIS BOARD ORDERED A DEMOLITION ON IT, UH, THEY FILED AN APPEAL.
UH, THE PROPERTY CONTINUES TO, UM, HAVE CODE VIOLATIONS IN ADDITION TO CRIMINAL VIOLATIONS.
SO, UM, THE PROPERTIES HAD TO HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED AGAIN.
AND WHAT, UH, UH, OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT DECIDED TO DO IS FILE, LIKE I HAD STATED TO YOU BEFORE, A COUNTERCLAIM A CHAPTER 54.
SO THERE ARE WAYS FOR US TO ADDRESS IT, BUT THAT'S ME KIND OF GOING VEERING OFF INTO SOMETHING ELSE.
ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE GONNA GO BACK TO THE DEMO WORK ORDER.
WE'RE GONNA GO BACK ON THE PATH OF NO APPEAL HAS BEEN FILED.
A WORK ORDER IS PREPARED BY THAT DP OFFICER AND IS GIVEN TO THEIR SUPERVISORS JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S GOOD.
A PURCHASE ORDER IS CREATED BY JUDY.
IF I'M NOT, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, UH, THAT IS ALSO, UM, CREATED AND GIVEN TO THE CONTRACTOR, THE DEMOLITION CONTRACTOR.
THE CONTRACTOR IS GONNA REACH OUT TO UTILITIES TO GET THOSE SHUT OFF.
BUT I WILL SAY ONCE IT'S ON THE, ONCE IT'S TO THE CONTRACTOR, WE ARE NO LONGER ON DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TIMELINE.
WE ARE ON THE CONTRACTOR'S TIMELINE.
AND THE WAY THAT THE CITY WORKS IS WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH CERTAIN CONTRACTORS, SO WE DON'T GET TO JUST USE ANY PERSON THAT WE WANT TO.
WE ALREADY HAVE A CONTRACT, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG FOR THE FISCAL YEAR, AND THAT'S THE ONE THEY USE IF THEY USE IT FOR LONGER, WHAT HAVE YOU.
UM, ONCE THAT CONTRACTOR HAS THE, THE THE DEMO WORK ORDER, IT IS UP TO THEM TO GET THE, UM, UH, THE DEMO PERMIT TO DO THE DISCONNECTS.
ALTHOUGH I'M SURE THEY'RE STILL IN COORDINATION WITH THE DP OFFICER.
BUT AGAIN, WE'RE NO LONGER ON DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TIMELINE.
SO SOMETIMES WHEN, HEY, THIS PROPERTY SHOULD HAVE BEEN DEMOED, HEY, WHY ISN'T THIS PROPERTY DEMO DEMOLISHED? THERE'S USUALLY A REASON, AND THAT REASON IS MOST OF THE TIME IT'S BECAUSE WE'RE ON THE DEMO, WE'RE ON THE DEMOLITION CONTRACTOR'S TIMELINE.
HE MIGHT HAVE SOME OTHER, HE OR SHE MIGHT HAVE SOME OTHER THINGS TO DO, WHICH IS WHY THAT DP OFFICER NEEDS TO CONTINUE TO KEEP AN EYE ON THAT PROPERTY, MAKE SURE NO ADDITIONAL WORK IS BEING DONE.
AND IT IS ALSO, UM, IMPERATIVE ON THAT DP OFFICER TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON ON THE PROPERTY IN REGARDS TO PERSONS.
IF THERE ARE PEOPLE STILL ON IT, UM, WHEN THE DEMO CONTRACTOR CONTACTS THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENTS AND THOSE UTILITY DEPARTMENTS GO OUT TO THE PROPERTY, CODE ENFORCEMENT SHOULD BE, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES SHOULD BE THERE IN ADDITION WITH A SAFE OFFICER.
AND IF WE ALREADY KNOW OR BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE PERSONS STILL ON THE PROPERTY, THEY DEFINITELY NEED TO BRING NHSD AND DHS AGAIN TO GIVE THOSE PERSONS THAT ARE ON THE PROPERTY SOME OPTIONS AS
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TO WHERE THEY COULD POSSIBLY RELOCATE.SO ONCE THE DISCONNECTS ARE MADE, THE CONTRACTOR WILL NOTIFY THE DP OFFICIAL OF THE DAY AND TIME OF THAT DEMOLITION.
OKAY? THEY'LL, AGAIN, REACH OUT TO LEGAL JUST TO CONFIRM THERE ARE NO APPEALS, NOTHING, UM, CONS, NOTHING TRANSPIRING OVER IN THE, IN THE COURTS THAT MIGHT, UM, UH, HAVE AN EFFECT ON THEM MOVING FORWARD WITH THE DEMOLITION PROCESS.
SO THAT DAY, THE DAY OF THE DEMOLITION, THE DP OFFICER SHOULD, ACCORDING TO, ACCORDING TO, OH, DANNY'S NOT HERE.
OKAY? ACCORDING TO DANNY AND HIS TEAM, OF COURSE, THEY NEED TO ARRIVE ON THE LOCATION, THEY NEED TO CONFIRM SOME OF THE STUFF THEY ALREADY HAVE.
WE STILL WANT THEM TO CONFIRM IT.
IT, IT, IT IS NOT OUT OF THE ORDINARY THAT ONE OF THOSE PROPERTIES THAT HAS A DEMOLITION ORDER ON IT GETS SOLD WITHOUT A TITLE SEARCH.
SO, SURPRISE, NOBODY KNEW THAT THERE WAS A DEMOLITION ORDER ON IT.
BUT WE DEFINITELY WANT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TO LOOK THAT UP AND CONFIRM THAT THERE'S NOT NEW OWNERSHIP.
IF THERE IS, WE MIGHT HAVE A NOTICE ISSUE THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS.
AND SO THEY WILL CONTACT LEGAL, VERIFY THAT THE OWNER ISN'T CHANGED, VERIFY THAT, THAT THAT DEMOLITION PERMIT, THAT THE, THAT THE CONTRACTOR, UM, OBTAINED IS, IS VALID AND CORRECT.
TAKE SOME PHOTOS WE LIKE BEFORE AND AFTER WE, LIKE, BEFORE AND AFTER OF INSIDE AND OUTSIDE.
MORE PHOTOS ARE ALWAYS BETTER THAN LESS.
SEND THOSE PICTURES TO ADMINISTRATION, THEN LET'S ROCK AND ROLL.
THERE HAVE BEEN PLENTY OF TIMES I CAN TELL YOU WHERE, UH, THE DEMOLITION IS ABOUT TO PROCEED AND SOMETHING CRAZY HAPPENS AT THE LAST MINUTE.
IT'S HAPPENED WHERE SOMEONE HAS, WON'T LEAVE THE HOUSE OR INSISTS ON THEY FILED SOMETHING, WHAT, WHAT HAVE YOU.
UM, WHAT WE TRY TO DO IS WE HANDLE IT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS, BUT IF YOU WILL NOT LEAVE THE HOUSE AND WE ARE GETTING READY TO MOVE FORWARD, EXCUSE ME, UM, WE TRY TO GET ASSISTANCE FROM SAPD, UM, BUT WE'LL TAKE OUR TIME.
NOBODY'S, NOBODY'S ROUGH, UM, BEING PHYSICAL OR ROUGH WITH ANYBODY, BUT YOU KNOW, WE, WE DO NEED YOU TO, TO GET OUTTA THE HOUSE.
SO, UM, I, I AM A PRETTY BLUNT PERSON.
SO I STOLE THIS FROM JUDY, SO PLEASE DON'T THINK THAT I DID ALL THIS COLORFUL.
I'D LIKE TO TAKE CREDIT FOR IT.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, LUCINDA'S LIKE, WOW, HOW'D YOU DO THAT? I WAS LIKE, HEY, I GRABBED IT FROM JENNY.
I MEAN, I, I GRABBED IT FROM JUDY.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT I DID.
UH, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT IT, UM, ORDERS ARE DRAFTED BY ME OR, OR, UM, LUCINDA.
UM, AND I USUALLY GET THEM TO HER.
UH, LET'S SEE, JUDY, LET'S SEE.
SO LIKE, IF WE HAD HEARINGS TODAY, JUDY WOULD EMAIL ME BY WEDNESDAY, UM, JUST GETTING AN UPDATE ON THOSE, THOSE BSB ORDERS, AND I FREAK OUT A LITTLE BIT.
I'M LIKE, OH GOD, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THEY'RE ALL DONE.
AND I, I, I TRY TO GIVE THEM TO JUDY BEFORE THE NEXT HEARING.
UM, IF WE HAVE ONE, ONE AFTER THE WEEK, I TRY TO, I, I, I TRY TO PRETTY MUCH DO IT WITHIN A WEEK.
AND QUITE HONESTLY, I'M, I'M CHEATING A LITTLE BIT.
I'M DRAFTING SOME OF THOSE WHILE WE SPEAK DURING THE ORDER.
UM, THEY ALSO WANT TO CHECK TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY APPEALS THAT HAVE BEEN FILED THAT, AGAIN, THAT'S 30 DAYS AFTER THE, THE ORDER HAD BEEN MAILED.
WHY? BECAUSE GENERALITY, IT'S 30 DAYS AFTER IT'S BEEN MAILED.
THAT SHOULD BE THE END OF THE TIMELINE, THE 30 DAY TIMELINE.
OKAY? SO THAT'S WHY THEY CALL US.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT'S THE ONLY TIME THAT THEY CALL US TO CONFIRM THAT THERE'S BEEN NO APPEALS.
BUT, UH, JUDY'S TEAM HAS, HAS BEEN KNOWN TO DO IT A COUPLE OF TIMES, AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE SOMETIMES MAYBE ONE HASN'T BEEN FILED WITHIN 30 DAYS, BUT BY THE TIME WE'RE GOING TO DEMO THE PROPERTY, ONE HAS BEEN FILED OR THE PROPERTY HAS CHANGED HANDS.
SO, UM, ONCE THOSE ORDERS EXPIRE AGAINST, THEY'RE USUALLY GONNA START CREATING THAT WORK ORDER IF THEY HAVEN'T HEARD FROM LEGAL OR IF THEY HAVEN'T BEEN SERVED WITH ANYTHING, UH, THAT WORK ORDER, UM, IS ISSUED TO THE CONTRACTOR, OR THE CONTRACTOR IS GOING TO BE IN CHARGE OF MAKING SURE THOSE, UM, DISCONNECTS ARE DONE.
AND, UH, HAVING A TIMELINE AS TO WHEN THAT DEMOLITION'S GONNA HAPPEN, IN ADDITION TO OBTAINING THAT DEMOLITION PERMIT, UM, I COULD TELL YOU ONCE THE DEMOLITION IS COMPLETE, THEY ARE ALSO REQUIRED TO CLEAN UP.
SO THEY DON'T JUST LEAVE EVERYTHING THERE.
THEY'LL, UM, BASED ON WHAT THE, THE SITUATION WAS, THEY'LL, THEY'LL DO SOME CLEANUP.
WE HAVE HAD PERSONS COMPLAIN THEY DIDN'T CLEAN UP WELL ENOUGH.
UM, AND WE WILL DEAL WITH THOSE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.
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UM, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT'S HAPPENED.SO WITH THAT SAID, I THINK MY LAST SLIDE SAYS, HEY, LOOK AT THERE.
SO WITH THAT SAID, THE FIRST PERSON I'M GOING TO ASK A QUESTION TO IS MR. GRIMES.
AND THE REASON IS BECAUSE I, AND I APPRECIATE IT.
HE DID, HE DID ASK ME, HEY, WHAT WHAT IS THE PROCESS? I DO WANNA MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND.
THERE ARE TIMES WHERE, AND THERE ARE TIMES WHERE THE, THE DEMOLITION, IT TAKES A WHILE FOR THAT DEMOLITION TO HAPPEN.
WHETHER THAT DEMOLITION IS, IS THE, THE DELAY IS DUE TO, UM, SOME LEGAL APPEALS THAT HAVE BEEN FILED OR SCHEDULING, UM, OR MAYBE WE'RE TRYING TO ASSIST THE PERSONS THAT LIVE IN THE HOME TO TRY TO FIND THEM SOME ALTERNATE, UM, HOUSING BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH SOMETHING.
THERE ARE, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THAT, THAT COME AT, UM, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AS TO WHY THAT MIGHT AFFECT HOW LONG IT TAKES.
UM, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT THEY TRY TO GET IT DONE, UM, WITHIN A RELATIVELY, UM, REASONABLE TIME PERIOD.
UM, HOW DOES THE PROCESS CHANGE WHEN YOU HAVE AN EMERGENCY DEMOLITION LIKE WE SAW THIS MORNING? SO AN EMERGENCY DEMOLITION, I CAN TELL YOU, DOES NOT INVOLVE, UM, JUDY OR, OR, OR LEGAL.
IT PRETTY MUCH INVOLVES THE HEAD OF, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, UM, THE HEAD, THE HEAD, THE HEADS OF, UH, OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND THEY GO IN AND MAKE A DETERMINATION AS TO IS THE HOUSE, IS IT FEASIBLE TO BE REPAIRED? UM, UM, AND THEY TAKE IN THIS CERTAIN THINGS THAT, THAT THEY TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION.
QUITE HONESTLY, I'M NOT, UH, I'M NOT WELL VERSED IN, UH, BUT AN EMERGENCY DEMOLITION WILL HAPPEN, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I'D SAY WITHIN 96 HOURS OF THE FIRE DUE TO THE STABILITY OF THAT STRUCTURE.
SO THE QUESTION REALLY IS, IS IT GONNA FALL DOWN ON ITSELF IF SOMEONE'S IN THERE VERSUS CAN IT STAND FOR A LITTLE BIT? CORRECT.
UM, AND UM, THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES WHERE THERE'S A, THERE'S BEEN A FIRE AT A PROPERTY.
IT'S NOT AN EMERGENCY DEMOLITION, BUT THE ENDS UP IN FRONT OF THIS BOARD BECAUSE NOTHING HAS HAPPENED TO IT.
SO, UM, THE EMERGENCY DEMOLITION PROCESS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
I CAN TELL YOU, UM, SOMETIMES THEY, THEY WOULD HAVE TO, IF THEY WANTED TO FIGHT IT OR THEY DISAGREED WITH IT, THEY MOST LIKELY THEY WOULD BE FILING SOMETHING AFTER THE FACT.
SO, UM, MR. GRIMES, DID I, DID I ADDRESS MAJORITY OF THE STUFF YOU WANTED TO KNOW? UH, YEAH.
THE, I WANNA APOLOGIZE TO THE BOARD FOR TAKING YOUR TIME.
I ASKED HIM TO DO THIS BECAUSE, UH, UH, I, WE HAD A CONVERSATION AFTER MY SECOND OR THIRD MEETING ABOUT WHAT REALLY HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE A DEMOLITION ORDER.
SO, UH, LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION.
IS, IS, UH, AT WHAT POINT IS SOMETHING FILED IN THE PUBLIC RECORDS NOTIFYING A POTENTIAL BUYER THAT THIS PROPERTY IS UNDER A DEMOLITION ORDER? UH, I'M GONNA LET JUDY, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I'D SAY THE DAY THAT, UM, IT'S BEEN SIGNED AND MAILED OUT, IT, WE, UM, WE MAKE SURE THAT IT IS FILED WITH, UM, AM I MIS NOT MISTAKEN IN DEED RECORDS.
SO THAT, THAT WAY IF, IF THEY DO A TITLE SEARCH, THEY WILL SEE IT THE DAY THAT IT'S BEEN MAILED OUT, OR WITHIN THAT DAY, IT WILL, IT WILL BE FILED WITHIN.
NOW, THE, THE ONE CONCERN THAT WE HAVE IS NOT EVERYBODY DOES A TITLE SEARCH.
SO THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES WHERE SOMEBODY CLAIMS THAT THEY DIDN'T KNOW, AND THE REASON THEY DIDN'T KNOW IS THEY DIDN'T DO A TITLE SEARCH.
BUT ANY, ANY BOARD ORDER THAT'S BEEN MAILED OUT TO THE OWNER NOTICES IS, IS PROVIDED TO ANYBODY THAT DOES A TITLE SEARCH.
AND, UH, HOW, HOW COMMON IS AN APPEAL OF THESE DEMOLITION ORDERS? THEY'RE PRETTY COMMON.
UM, I, I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE A PERCENTAGE ON IT.
UM, BUT IT'S NOT SURPRISING TO GET A, A DEMO, UH, AN APPEAL OF A DEMOLITION ORDER.
UM, SOME PERSONS WANT TO APPEAL IT SOLELY SO THEY CAN SELL IT.
SOME PERSONS WANT TO APPEAL IT, UM, WITH THE GOOD INTENTION THAT THEY'RE GOING TO FIX IT.
UM, I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE A PERCENTAGE, UM, BUT I, I CAN TELL YOU, WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE A DEDICATED LEGAL TEAM TO HANDLE, HANDLE IT, IT HAPPENS QUITE A BIT.
UM, BUT HONESTLY, WITH US, WE DON'T, UH, LUCINDA AND I DON'T FIND OUT TILL, I GUESS WE FIND OUT THE DAY, YEAH, WE FIND OUT WHEN THE REST OF THE LEGAL TEAM FINDS OUT AND WE GET, WE GET, WE GET CC'D ON IT, BUT WE'RE NOT, WE ARE NOT INVOLVED IN THE EVERYDAY WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THOSE CASES IN REGARDS TO LITIGATION.
WE, WE HAVE ACCESS AND CAN ASK THEM, BUT
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WE ARE NOT, UM, PART OF THE DISCUSSION WITH THEM WHEN THEY'RE, WHEN THEY HAVE THEIR LITIGATION ISSUES ON A DAILY BASIS.UH, GOING BACK TO THE, UH, APPEAL WHERE THE CODE CAN STILL FILE OR DO OTHER ISSUES WHEN YOU FILE THE 54, IS THAT TO PREVENT THOSE, LIKE A MAINTENANCE COMING HERE? OH, TO PREVENT THOSE OTHER ISSUES FROM HAPPENING YEAH.
FROM COM NO, NOT FROM HAPPENING, BUT FROM COMING HERE, IF THEY'RE FILING FOR A MAINTENANCE ISSUE NOW, AND IT CAN STILL COME HERE, ARE YOU FILING THE 54 TO PREVENT IT FROM COMING HERE BECAUSE THE PROPERTY'S ALREADY IN LEGAL ACTION? NO, NO, BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE A, IF THERE'S AN APPEAL, IT'S BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE AN ORDER FROM THIS BOARD.
99% OF THOSE APPEALS ARE DEMOLITION ORDERS.
SO THERE'S NO REASON FOR ME TO FILE A CHAPTER 54 BECAUSE THEY CONTINUE TO DO CODE NUISANCE.
I ALREADY HAVE A DEMOLITION ORDER.
WHAT WE DO WANT TO DO IS MAKE SURE THE, UM, THE MINOR REPAIRS OR THE, THE, THE THEM TRYING TO REPAIR A PROPERTY, UM, ISN'T BEING ADDRESSED.
IF A, I CAN TELL YOU A CHAPTER 54 LAWSUIT HAS BEEN UTILIZED BY OUR LITIGATION TEAM TO, UH, AS A COUNTERCLAIM TO SOMEBODY FILING A CASE AGAINST US IN REGARDS TO AN APPEAL.
SO IF THEY GET SOMETHING LIKE, OKAY, THEY'RE IN LEGAL STATUS, SO THEY'RE NOT NOW TAKING CARE OF THE PROPERTY.
AND THAT FALLS UNDER PMCS, NOT S-A-P-M-C, YOU MEAN? YEAH, YEAH.
SO THAT FALLS UNDER THAT PIECE THERE.
CAN THAT STILL COME HERE EVEN THOUGH THE OTHER ONE IS ILLEGAL? OR ARE YOU GONNA TRY TO KEEP IT? I I DON'T, I MEAN, I THEORETICALLY, ARGUABLY, I GUESS IT COULD, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD GET TO THAT POINT.
AGAIN, IF YOU RECALL THE BUILDING STANDARD BOARD, YOU ARE IN ESSENCE THE KIND OF THE CABOOSE.
WE CAN'T GET ANY COOPERATION, COOPERATION, COOPERATION.
BUT I THINK THE LITIGATION TEAM WOULD, WOULD ALREADY, UM, BE AHEAD OF IT IN THE SENSE THAT THEY WOULD END UP PROBABLY FILING A, A CHAPTER 54 LAWSUIT AND OR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES IN OUR LITIGATION TEAM WOULD GET TOGETHER AS TO HOW THEY WOULD LIKE TO, UM, ADDRESS THE PROPERTY THAT IS NOT, NOT IN COMPLIANCE AND FILED AN APPEAL BUT ISN'T WORKING ON THE PROPERTY.
SO, UM, I, I GUESS A CHAPTER 54 WOULD BE USED MORE AS A, AS A COUNTER SUIT FOR THE LITIGATION TEAM, NOT A, UM, INSTEAD OF THE CURRENT ISSUES THAT MIGHT BE S-A-P-M-C COMING IN FRONT OF THIS BOARD.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, GO AHEAD.
DOES, UH, HISTORIC EVER GET INVOLVED AT THE VERY END? IF THERE'S NOT, THERE COULD BE A COMPLETE DEMOLITION, BUT THERE LOOKS LIKE THERE'S AWFUL NICE PIECES OF WOOD, BRICK, SOMETHING HISTORICAL THAT THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO USE.
SO I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, UM, IF WE HAVE A PROPERTY THAT HAS A DEMOLITION ORDER, COULD THAT DEMOLITION BE DONE BY DECONSTRUCTION? POSSIBLY, UH, YES.
I, IIII GUESS IT COULD, UM, THE SHORT ANSWER ORDER, I GUESS WOULD BE YES.
IF, IF BY SOME CHANCE, UM, THEY'RE GETTING READY TO DO SOME DEMOLITION AND OHP SAYS, OH, WOW, LOOK, WE FOUND, WE FOUND THIS TYPE OF WOOD ON THE LEFT ELEVATION.
COULD THEY, UM, UH, GET WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TO TRY TO COORDINATE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S MORE OF A DECONSTRUCTION, JUST A FLAT DEMOLITION? YES.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT, IT HAPPENS ON A REGULAR BASIS ONLY BECAUSE, UM, THE PROPERTY, ANY PROPERTY THAT COMES IN FRONT OF THIS BOARD FOR A POSSIBLE, AS A, AS A DP IS ALREADY GOING IN FRONT OF HDRC.
SO IF THERE'S SOME, SOME TYPE OF HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE BEFORE THAT PROPERTY'S EVEN HEARD AS A DP, WE WOULD NEED ALL OF YOU.
SO I, I, I THINK HDRC WOULD ALREADY BE, UM, ABREAST OR ALREADY ALREADY KNOW THERE'S SOME, UM, HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE TO A PROPERTY.
SO IF IT ENDED UP GETTING DEMOLISHED, I, I, I DO BELIEVE HISTORIC WOULD ALREADY BE INVOLVED IN MAKING SURE, UM, IF THAT PROPERTY HAD TO COME, IF THAT STRUCTURE HAD TO COME DOWN, IT WOULD BE COMING DOWN IN A WAY THAT THEY COULD PRESERVE THE, UM, THE MATERIALS.
BUT I, I DON'T, I, I, IT'S RARE.
I, I DON'T THINK IT'S HAPPENED.
IT, I'M SURE IT COULD, AND I, I KNOW DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND, AND HISTORIC WOULD PROBABLY WORK TOGETHER TO GET THAT DONE.
ANYWAY, I COULD TELL YOU IF A DART PROPERTY IS A HISTORIC PROPERTY, WE TRY TO WORK WITH OHP TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT ONLY, WE ARE ADDRESSING THE NUISANCE, BUT ALSO ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THIS PROPERTY, THIS STRUCTURE HAS SOME HIS HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE.
SO, UM, I, I, I, I THINK THAT,
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UM, THERE'S BEEN BETTER COOPERATION AND THAT COOPERATION HAS DEVELOPED TO WHERE, UM, NOT ONLY IS THE DART TEAM THAT'S, THAT MIGHT BE BRINGING A, A PROPERTY, UH, IN FRONT OF THIS BOARD, BUT ALSO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES OR DP THAT'S BRING POSSIBLY BRINGING THE PROPERTY TO THIS BOARD TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING SOME INPUT FROM OHP, ESPECIALLY IF THAT, IF THAT PROPERTY HAS SOME, SOME TYPE OF, UH, SIGNIFICANCE.SO I HOPE I, MY LONG-WINDED ANSWERS ANSWERED THAT QUESTION.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNSEL.
THE NEXT ITEM IS GONNA BE COMMUNITY OUTREACH FROM THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES LIAISON.
MY NAME'S INGRID CASTILLO MERCADO.
I'M GONNA, UM, HIGHLIGHT A LITTLE BIT OF THE OUTREACH EFFORTS THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT DOES.
SO OUTREACH REALLY DID ALREADY EXIST, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE NECESSARILY LIKE A FORMAL WAY OF TRACKING OR COLLECTING DATA, UM, BETWEEN CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF AND, UH, N-H-S-D-D-H-S.
UH, NORMALLY WE WOULD JUST CODE STAFF WOULD JUST LIKE EMAIL BETWEEN STAFF, UM, ANYTIME ANY TYPE OF, UH, OUTREACH WAS NEEDED.
SO WE BASICALLY CREATED A, UM, BASELINE FOR OUTREACH WITHIN, UM, THAT BASELINE.
WE CREATED A STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE AID FOR STAFF.
WE, UH, DESIGNED A QR CODE FOR FIELD STAFF TO SUBMIT A REFERRAL.
OKAY, SO I BEGAN COLLECTING DATA MAY OF 2023.
THE DATA THAT YOU SEE HERE IS FOR FY 2024 ON AVERAGE, CODE STAFF SUBMITTED 42 REFERRALS EACH MONTH, IMPACTING 816 INDIVIDUALS ACROSS THE CITY, INCLUDING ADULTS AND CHILDREN.
OF THOSE 510 REFERRALS ON AVERAGE, 29% WERE ACCEPTED AT THAT TIME OF, UH, INITIAL OUTREACH OF THE RESIDENT AGREED TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH OUR NHSD HOUSING ADVOCATES OR DHS, UM, OUTREACH CLINICAL COORDINATORS.
THESE INDIVIDUALS AGREED TO HOME VISITS, EMAILS, UH, PHONE CALLS AND FOLLOW UPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
RELOCATION SERVICES, DHS SERVICES AND HOME REPAIR AND REMEDIATION ARE THE TOP THREE.
UM, MOST REQUESTED ASSISTANCE ASIDE FROM EVERYTHING ELSE THAT THEY ALSO, UM, OFFER, LIKE UTILITY ASSISTANCE, RENTAL ASSISTANCE, AND JUST A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT, UH, RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO THE COMMITTEE.
THOSE ARE THE TOP THREE ONES THAT WE TYPICALLY SEE.
I'M SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT THE TOP THREE? YES, IT IS.
SO RELOCATION SERVICES, DHS SERVICES, HOME REPAIR AND REMEDIATION.
UH, THE SENIOR ASSISTANCE PILOT PROGRAM PCDC, APPROVED THE SENIOR ASSISTANCE PILOT PROGRAM, UM, NOVEMBER OF 2023.
THE PROGRAM THEN WAS LAUNCHED THE FIRST WEEK OF DECEMBER, THE FOLLOWING MONTH.
UM, IT TO HELP SPREAD AWARENESS ASIDE FROM OUR CODE STAFF OR CODE OFFICERS ENGAGING FIRSTHAND WITH OUR RESIDENTS.
I ALSO ATTENDED ALL THE SENIOR CENTERS ACROSS THE CITY, HANDING OUT BROCHURES, UM, SPEAKING TO COMMUNITY REGARDING THE NEW PROGRAM.
I WAS THERE A AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THEY MAY HAVE ABOUT THE PROGRAM.
UM, INFORMATION WAS ALSO ADDED TO THE DSD WEBSITE, UM, TO KIND OF JUST HELP SPREAD AWARENESS OF THE THE NEW PROGRAM.
UM, HERE'S JUST A, A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS AND THE REVIEW PROCESS THAT IS IN PLACE.
UH, KIND OF JUST TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE KEY POINTS HERE IS THAT THE RESIDENTS MUST BE AT LEAST 65 YEARS OF AGE AND OR DISABLED.
THE INDIVIDUAL MUST HAVE A FINANCIAL HARDSHIP AND ON FIXED INCOME, THE HOME MUST BE A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENT.
AND THE RESIDENT, UM, MUST HAVE AN EXISTING CODE VIOLATION.
UM, AT THE END OF THE PROCESS OF THE ABATEMENT, THE RESIDENT IS NEVER BILLED FOR ANY OF THE WORK THAT'S DONE.
I KNOW THAT THAT QUESTION DOES COME UP
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OFTEN WITH RESIDENTS.THEY'LL, THEY'LL ASK ME IF, IF THEY'RE GONNA BE BILLED ANY TYPE OF PORTION, UM, AND WE ASSURE THEM THAT EVERYTHING IS COVERED BY THE, THE PROGRAM.
WE BEGAN ACCEPTING APPLICATIONS DECEMBER OF 20 23, 2 MONTHS AFTER THE START OF, UM, FY 2024 AND STARTED THE SENIOR ASSISTANCE PILOT PROGRAM WITH 105,000.
UM, SET BUDGET FOR FY 2024 CODE STAFF SUBMITTED 112 APPLICATIONS AND WE COMPLETED 75 ABATEMENTS.
WITH THAT AVAILABLE FUNDING, 27 APPLICATIONS WERE CANCELED BY RESIDENTS.
MOST OF THE TIME THE OWNERS COMPLIED AND THEY ABATED THE PROPERTY THEMSELVES.
UH, 10 APPLICATIONS WERE DENIED.
THE TOP REASON FOR APPLICATIONS TO BE DENIED WAS THAT THE APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED WITHOUT AN EXISTING CODE VIOLATION.
SO THAT WAS THE NUMBER ONE REASON WHY, UM, THE APPLICATION WAS DENIED.
'CAUSE THEY DID HAVE TO HAVE THE, UH, CODE VIOLATION IN ORDER TO BE ELIGIBLE, OR THEY JUST DIDN'T MEET ANY, UH, THE PARAMETERS ABOUT PARAMETERS OF THE PROGRAM.
FOR, UM, FI 2025, WE ALREADY STARTED WITH, UH, 14 APPLICATIONS WERE SUBMITTED ALREADY IN THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER.
SO WE DEFINITELY KICKED OFF, UH, FAIRLY QUICKLY AND AT THE START OF THIS NEW CYCLE FISCAL YEAR.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME REGARDING OUTREACH QUESTIONS? YES, GO AHEAD.
UM, IT LOOKS BY THE PIE CHART THAT MOST OF THESE ITEMS ARE OUTSIDE THE HOME.
THE CONCERNS FOR THE CODE VIOLATIONS.
IT HAS HAZARDOUS VEGETATION, OVERGROWN WEEDS, TRASH, DEBRIS, AND OUTSIDE PLACEMENT.
THEN HOW DOES IT UP EARLIER? IT SAYS THAT IT INCLUDES RELOCATION SERVICES.
IT'S TWO SEPARATE PROGRAMS. SO THE, THE ONE THAT YOU SEE HERE IS THE SENIOR ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, AND IT'S SPECIFIC TO, UM, BASICALLY THOSE ITEMS. THE, THAT'S FOR THE OUTREACH PROGRAM THAT YOU SAW EARLIER.
THAT'S FOR, UM, DIFFERENT SERVICES THAT'S OFFERED THROUGH N-H-S-D-D-H-S AND ANY OF OUR OTHER COMMUNITY PARTNERS THAT WE HAVE.
SO IT'S TWO SEPARATE PROGRAMS. IT'S NOT A QUESTION, IT'S MORE OF A COMMENT AND, UH, I MEAN I'VE SAID IT BEFORE, BUT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WATCHING AND FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE NEW, UM, ON THE RELOCATION SERVICES, IT, IT'S A REFERRAL TO NHSD FOR THE RELOCATION ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, WHICH IS A REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAM.
SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE MONEY UPFRONT TO COVER IT, OR IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD MARKET RATE APARTMENTS OR YOU HAVE A BACKGROUND CHECK PROBLEM, YOUR CREDIT PROBLEM, ET CETERA, YOU'RE NOT, YOU CAN QUALIFY FOR IT, BUT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET IT.
SO, I, I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT DISTINCTION THAT JUST BECAUSE THEY GET A REFERRAL DOESN'T MEAN THEY ACCEPT THEY GET ASSISTANCE.
AND THERE'S, UM, DIFFERENT AVENUES THAT I DO KNOW THAT OUR NHSD TEAM, UM, I KNOW THEY'RE, THAT THE OUTREACH SPECIALISTS THAT ARE OVER THERE, IF WE CAN'T FIND 'EM A PROGRAM WITHIN THE CITY, THEY ALSO LOOK AT OUTSIDE, UM, RESOURCES.
SO WE, WE ALSO REFER OUTSIDE OF COSA AS WELL.
AND WHO DOES THE TOOL SHED PROGRAM WORK UNDER YOUR SUPERVISION OR IS THAT ANOTHER DIVISION WITHIN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES? IT'S PART OF, UM, OUTREACH THAT THE CODE STAFF DOES, BUT IT'S NOT PART OF THIS PROGRAM OR ASIDE FROM THIS TYPE OF OUTREACH.
SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT SEPARATE.
IT'S, DOES THE BOARD UNDER OR KNOW ABOUT THE TOOLSHED PROGRAM? EXCELLENT.
WE GOT THE COMMUNICATION AT LEAST THIS FAR
'CAUSE I, I'M, I KNOW OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE ACTUALLY USING IT NOW.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS? DID WE HAVE A QUESTION THERE? THIS IS FRED ANDES ON YOUR, I GUESS THIS IS YOUR FIRST YEAR? CORRECT.
I SEE A 29% SUCCESS UP THERE AT THE TOP, BUT AT THE BOTTOM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PIE CHART, IS THAT THE TOTAL FOR ALL OF THIS? OR IS EACH ONE OF THESE HAVE A PERCENTAGE THAT JUSTIFIES THAT MONEY? AND IS IT GONNA BE EXPANDED MORE THAN WHAT THIS PROGRAM HITS HERE? I, I'M NOT TOO SURE IF I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PIE CHART, HANG ON.
YOU GOT A PIE CHART HERE? THE 29% TOP MM-HMM.
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THEY'RE TWO SEPARATE PROGRAMS, CORRECT? YES.THE 29% WAS FOR THE COMMITTEE OUTREACH.
SO THAT'S WHEN OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS GO OUT AND THEY REFER, UM, ANY TYPE OF ASSISTANCE THAT GETS TRANSFERRED OVER TO THE NHSD OR DHS DEPARTMENT.
SO THAT'S SEPARATE FROM THE PIE CHART THAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE.
SO THAT'S AT 29%, THAT'S FOR THE OVERALL OUTREACH, CORRECT? FOR THAT PART? MM-HMM.
THIS YEAR IT'S, THIS YEAR IS A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
UM, LAST YEAR ONE OF THE DISTRICTS DONATED AN ADDITIONAL 5,000 TO THE PROGRAM, BUT THIS YEAR WE STARTED OFF, UM, THE BUDGET IS A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
SO YOUR BUDGET WITH YOUR PIE CHART NEEDS TO INCREASE.
IF YOU WANT TO EXPAND TO MAKE IT ALMOST A HUNDRED PERCENT PER ALL THESE CATEGORIES THAT YOU'RE HITTING, YOU, YOUR BUDGET COMES OUT OF, I'M ASSUMING DANNY, DOES IT COME OUTTA YOUR BUDGET? THE OVERALL BUDGET IS PART OF THIS OR IS IT SEPARATE? YES, SIR.
THIS IS ALL FROM THE GENERAL FUND.
SO THIS YEAR, COUNCIL APPROVED THROUGH THE ADOPTION PROCESS, UM, ANOTHER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO DEDICATED RATHER COMMITTED TO SENIOR ABATEMENT PILOT PROGRAM.
UM, SO YES, IT'S ALL COMING OUTTA THE GENERAL FUND.
SO IN GENERAL, FUNDING 105 WAS FOR THIS PROGRAM.
NOW IS THIS PILOT PROGRAM DONE OR HAS IT STILL GOT A FEW MORE YEARS TO SEE IF IT, SO AGAIN, AND LAST YEAR IN FY 24 WAS A PILOT PROGRAM.
THIS YEAR, UH, IT WILL BE ON THE, I GUESS THE RECORD AGAIN, OR THE BOOKS RATHER FOR ANOTHER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT WHAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR IS DISTRICT THREE COUNCIL OFFICE CONTRIBUTED ADDITIONAL 5,000 OUT OF THEIR OWN FUNDING, UH, WHICH BROUGHT THE, I GUESS THE AVAILABLE FUNDING TO 105,000.
THIS YEAR IT'S ONLY A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, UM, FOR THE, THIS SPECIFIC PROGRAM.
NOW, WITH THIS SPECIFIC PROGRAM, THAT'S PRETTY LOW NUMBERS.
'CAUSE IS IT A BUDGET ISSUE THAT YOU NEED TO BRING OR IS IT JUST NOT ENOUGH AWARENESS TO OUR STAFFING TO STAFF ADDRESS THE PROBLEMS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED? I THINK, I BELIEVE THE, THE PROGRAM WAS DEFINITELY FAIRLY NEW.
I THINK WE STARTED OFF STRONG.
UM, WE DID USE ALL OF THE AVAILABLE FUNDS, THE ENTIRE 1 0 5, UM, FOR LAST YEAR.
SO I, I BELIEVE THAT THIS YEAR COME AROUND.
I THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO DEFINITELY UTILIZE ALL THE, ALL THE FUNDS EVEN SOONER THAN WE DID LAST YEAR.
NOW LET ME SCROLL TO THE OTHER CHART WHERE IT HAD THE 29% BECAUSE IS THAT A, THAT'S A SEPARATE BUDGET, CORRECT.
BUT THERE'S NO AMOUNT THERE OR IS IT PART OF THIS BUDGET? NO, THIS THE 29% THIS, THERE'S NO BUDGET FOR THE OUTREACH.
THIS IS, UM, ALL THE ASSISTANCE THAT'S DONE THROUGH NHSD OR DHS IS SEPARATE FROM THE SENIOR ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.
SO WHEN A CODE OFFICER COMES UP TO AN INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS AN ISSUE, IT'S REFERRED TO THIS PROGRAM BEFORE IT COMES HERE.
IT GOES THROUGH THE PROCESS OF, SO IF THEY FIT THE BILL THEN THEY CAN ASSIST, BUT IF NOT, THEN IT MIGHT END UP HERE.
WOULD THAT BE ACCURATE? I'M, YES, TO SOME EXTENT.
SO ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE BEFORE THE BUILDING CENTERS BOARD, IT GOES THROUGH THIS VETTING PROCESS, RIGHT? MM-HMM,
SO, UH, OUTREACH IS OFFERED PRIOR TO COMING TO THE BOARD, WHETHER IT'S FOR RELOCATION ASSISTANCE, UH, UTILITY ASSISTANCE, WHATEVER SERVICES THAT ARE NEEDED.
UH, INGRID HAS BEEN, UM, KIND OF TRIAGING THOSE CASES AND SENDING THEM OVER ACCORDINGLY TO WHICHEVER RESPECTIVE DEPARTMENT, WHETHER IT'S H-S-D-D-H-S OR ANY EXTERNAL AGENCIES THAT WE KNOW OF THAT COULD HELP THEM THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
NOW WHAT THE OUTREACH IS, IS IT'S THE LARGER UMBRELLA, IF YOU WILL, THE SENIOR ABATEMENT PROGRAM FALLS UNDER THAT OUTREACH.
UH, AND WHO HAS A SPECIFIC DEDICATED BUDGET FOR THAT PROGRAM ITSELF? AND THE REASON I ASK IS 'CAUSE WE DO SEE SEVERAL THAT MIGHT FIT THAT CATEGORY.
SO I KNOW THEY GO THROUGH A PROCESS AND BEEN DENIED, ESPECIALLY ON SOME OF THE COMMUNITIES LIKE CHURCHES.
THE MONEY THING YOU MAKE TOO MUCH OR YOU DON'T MAKE ENOUGH.
SO THEY'RE IN BETWEEN THAT WINDOW AND THEY END UP HERE.
SO I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE ON THIS ONE IS, BUT YOUR FIRST YEAR, 29% IS, IS HOW MANY DID NOT GET TOUCHED IN THAT 29%? OUT OF ALL THE APPLICANTS OR ALL THE PEOPLE REFERRED HOW MANY WERE NOT HELPED? WELL, THE, THE ACCEPTANCE, THE 29% IS THE ACCEPTANCE.
SO THAT'S WHEN THE RESIDENT SAID, YES, I, I'LL TAKE YOUR HELP.
WE DO SEE A LOT OF RESIDENTS THAT DON'T WANT OUR HELP.
UH, ULTIMATELY THEY DECIDE, NO, I DON'T WANT, I DON'T NEED ASSISTANCE, I DON'T WANT YOUR HELP.
OR THEY TELL US YES, AND THEN THEY TURN AROUND AND, AND DON'T FILL OUT THE APPLICATIONS.
UM, WE'VE TRIED TO DO COUNT, UM, MULTIPLE ATTEMPTS FOR OUTREACH, ESPECIALLY THE, UM, RESIDENTS THAT COME, UM, IN FRONT OF THE BOARD.
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KNOW THAT OUR CODE OFFICERS ALREADY DID OUTREACH 'CAUSE IT'S ONE OF THE PROCESS, UM, IN THEIR PROCEDURE AIDS, I GUESS RIGHT? TO OFFER ASSISTANCE AND TRY TO SEE IF THERE'S ANOTHER AVENUE BEFORE THEY COME HERE.SO I DO KNOW THAT OUTREACH IS, IS ATTEMPTED AND ALMOST A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE TIME BEFORE THEY EVEN COME, UM, BEFORE THE BOARD.
NOW THIS ONE ALSO TOUCHES ON REPAIRS OF A HOME TOO.
SO THE WINDOWS AND STUFF, THIS WINDOW, STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO THAT, THAT FALLS WITHIN THAT PROGRAM, CORRECT? YES.
FOR THE OUTREACH? WELL, I THINK IT'S SO FAR PRETTY GOOD.
I THINK FOR YOUR FIRST YEAR, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR BUDGET'S GONNA BE NEXT YEAR, BUT I'M HOPING I SEE 32, I SEE A LOT HIGHER.
IT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT ENOUGH RIGHT THERE BECAUSE ABATEMENT GETS A LOT OF MONEY AND THERE'S STILL A LOT TO STILL DO.
AND SO THIS I THINK IS BETTER.
IT'S ONE OF THE PROGRAMS ALONG WITH ALL THE OTHERS.
I WISH PEOPLE KNEW MORE ABOUT THERE'S A SITE FOR THIS, CORRECT.
FOR DID THE RESIDENTS KNOW THAT THIS IS AVAILABLE? SO CODE MAY NOT HAVE TO GET INVOLVED? THERE IS, IT'S ON A SITE, RIGHT.
SO WE DID PUT IT ON THE DSD SITE SO THAT INFORMATION WAS AVAILABLE.
UM, I DO KNOW THAT DIFFERENT, UM, NEWS STATIONS ALSO HAD HAD MENTIONED THE PROGRAM.
SO WE TRY TO SPREAD AWARENESS AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
I THINK THIS YEAR A LOT MORE PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT IT.
UM, SAME WITH OUR, OUR COUNCIL DISTRICTS.
I ALSO GET CALLS FROM THEM SAYING, HEY, I HAVE SOME RESIDENTS THAT MIGHT BE POTENTIAL CANDIDATES FOR THIS.
SO THEN WE ALSO DO OUTREACH FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT THEY ALSO, UH, REFER TO ME.
MAY I SUGGEST AN OUTREACH OF MAYBE DOOR FLYERS? LIKE YOU GO AROUND WHEN YOU DO THE PICKUPS, THE ONES THAT THE ANNUAL PICKUPS THAT COME THROUGH EVERY SIX MONTHS DO THE SAME WITH DOOR FLYERS ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
SO IT MAKES PEOPLE AWARE OR SOMEBODY THAT KNOWS SOMEBODY.
DOOR FLYERS ARE REAL EFFECTIVE IN NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO IF WE CAN DO THAT AND GET THE WORD OUT A LITTLE MORE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
DANNY, DO WE WANT TO WAIT VIRGINIA TO COME BACK OR ARE YOU GOING TO DO IT OR DO WE WANT TO DEFER TO ALICE NEXT? ALICE.
I'M NOT, I'M NOT REAL SURE WHETHER SHE'S GONNA DO ALL OF JENNY'S AND HERS OR IF SHE'S GONNA DO YOU'RE GONNA DO IT ALL, HUH? EXCELLENT.
AS LONG AS THERE'S NO QUESTION.
MY NAME'S ALICE GUDO, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES MANAGER, CODE ENFORCEMENT.
I WILL BE DOING THE PRESENTATION AGAIN FOR JENNY RAMIREZ FOR UM, BSB MEMBERSHIP AND ATTENDANCE.
THIS IS OUR PANELS FOR A AND B.
GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK OVER IT.
AND THIS IS THE ONE FOR ATTENDANCE FROM SEPTEMBER 1ST, OCTOBER 1ST, 2023 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2024.
IF NOT, WE CAN MOVE INTO OUR BSB FUTURE MEETING DATES.
AND OF COURSE THIS WOULD BE BORING AND WE'LL SEND THIS OUT TO EVERYBODY SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WRITE IT DOWN RIGHT NOW.
WE'LL WANNA GET IT TO EVERYBODY.
AND THAT CONCLUDES JENNY'S JENNY'S PRESENTATION.
WE'LL LET YOU NOW THEN GO TO THE ACTIVITY REPORTS OR THE YOUR REPORTS.
OKAY, I WILL BE PRESENTING THE BS B ORDERS AND ACTIONS FROM OCTOBER 1ST, 2023 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2020 FOURTH FOR REPAIR ORDERS WITH PENALTY.
THERE WERE NO ORDERS GIVEN REPAIR ORDER WITHOUT PENALTY.
PANEL B HAD A TOTAL OF THREE FOR A TOTAL OF SEVEN.
THERE WAS NOT ANY REMEDY WITH PENALTY.
NOT ANY WITH REMEDY WITHOUT PENALTY.
NOT ANY WITH DEMOLITION ORDERS WITH PENALTY, NOT ANY ORDERS WITH DEMOLITION ORDER WITHOUT PENALTY NOR WERE THERE ANY FOR NO LONGER A PUBLIC NUISANCE.
30 DAY DEMO WITH PENALTY PANEL A HAD A TOTAL OF TWO.
PANEL B HAD ZERO, SO A TOTAL OF TWO 30 DAY DEMO WITHOUT PENALTY.
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A HAD 32.PANEL B HAD 26 FOR A TOTAL OF 58.
THERE WERE NOT ANY 60 DAY DEMO WITH PENALTY NOR WERE THERE ANY 60 DAY WITHOUT PENALTY.
THERE WAS NOT ANY 90 DAY WITHOUT PENALTY NOR WERE THERE ANY 120 DAY DEMO WITHOUT, WITH PENALTY.
THERE WERE NOT ANY WITHOUT PENALTY.
THERE WERE NOT ANY PULLED FROM THE AGENDA.
PANEL A HAD ONE PULLED PANEL B HAD THREE FOR A TOTAL OF FOUR.
TOTAL NUMBER OF DANGEROUS STRUCTURES JUST PRESENTED WERE 71 S-A-P-M-C CASES ORDERS, REPAIR ORDERS WITH PENALTY.
PANEL B HAD 10 FOR A TOTAL OF 10.
PANEL B HAD EIGHT FOR A TOTAL OF 13 IN COMPLIANCE.
NO REMEDY ORDERED WITH PENALTY.
THERE WAS NOT ANY IN COMPLIANCE.
NO REMEDY ORDERED WITHOUT PENALTY.
THERE WERE NOT ANY PULLED FOR THE AGENDA.
THERE WAS A TOTAL OF 23 S-A-P-M-C CASES PRESENTED.
SUMMARY OF ABATEMENT APPEALS, THERE WERE NOT ANY SUMMARY ABATEMENTS FOR EITHER PANEL.
ADMINISTRATIVE ITEMS, EMERGENCY DEMOLITIONS.
UH, THERE WAS ONE PANEL A HAD 14.
PANEL B HAD 20 FOR A TOTAL OF 35.
HOLD HARMLESS AGREEMENTS READ INTO RECORD.
THERE WAS ONE FOR ORDERS OF ONE.
PANEL A HAD 10, PANEL B HAD FOUR FOR A TOTAL OF 15 RESET ORDERS.
PANEL A HAD FOUR, PANEL B HAD TWO FOR A TOTAL OF SIX, TOTAL NUMBER OF B, SB ORDERS.
UM, FOR BSB BOARD TWO, PANEL A HAD A TOTAL OF 72.
PANEL B HAD 76 FOR A TOTAL OF 150 FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024.
PANEL A HAD A TOTAL OF 10 MEETINGS.
PANEL B HAD 10 MEETINGS AS WELL.
FULL BOARD TWO MEETINGS FOR A TOTAL OF 22.
IF YOU GO BACK TO 30 DAYS WITHOUT PENALTIES, YOU SAID THERE WAS 58? YES SIR.
I BELIEVE YOU'RE LOOKING AT 2023 SIR.
I BELIEVE THE BOARD WAS, UH, GIVEN, UH, ORDERS FOR 2023 AND 2024, RIGHT? YES SIR.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I KNOW WE DIDN'T INVITE HIM TO HAVE QUESTIONS, BUT WE'LL INVITE EVERYBODY ELSE TO HAVE QUESTIONS.
UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, COULD WE SCROLL BACK UP TO THE TOP OF THE THAT'S GOOD.
WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A REPAIR ORDER AND A REMEDY? UH, GOOD QUESTION.
I BELIEVE THE REPAIR ORDERS IS JUST EXACTLY THAT FOR REPAIRS AND A REMEDY MAY BE A COMPLIANCE TYPE OF AGREEMENT.
UH, LEGAL, IF I MAY HOLD HARMLESS MAYBE.
WOULD THAT BE CORRECT? DANNY? CUT AND CLEAN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN REPAIR AND REMEDY OR, I'M SORRY, PANEL OR IT COULD BE ALSO A CUT AND CLEAN TYPE OF ABATEMENT? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO REPAIR, SPECIFIC TO REPAIR, RIGHT? YOU ORDER A HOUSE TO BE ABATED BY REPAIRING WHATEVER IT NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED.
YOU CAN ALSO ORDER ABATEMENT THROUGH, UH, WHETHER YOU CAN ORDER, MAKE A MOTION FOR ABATEMENT, YOU KNOW, BY EITHER MAYBE CLEANING, SECURING, UH, VACATING.
SO THAT MAY BE WHERE IT FALLS UNDER.
SO IT'S JUST A GENERAL, UH, CATEGORY FOR, UH, AN ABATEMENT ACTION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? LAST CALL.
UH, FULL BOARD MEETING STAFF UPDATES FOR COUNCIL DISTRICT ONE.
WE HAD A TOTAL OF SEVEN DP CASES, DANGEROUS PREMISES CASES, A TOTAL OF 21 SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CASES, THREE, EMERGENCY DEMOLITIONS AND THREE, HOLD HARMLESS FOR A TOTAL OF 34.
COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO HAD A TOTAL OF 16 DANGEROUS PREMISES.
THERE WERE NO SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE.
HOLD HARMLESS AGREEMENTS FOR A TOTAL OF 28.
COUNCIL DISTRICT THREE HAD 12 DANGEROUS PREMISES CASES.
THERE WERE NO SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE.
EMERGENCY DEMOLITIONS AND FIVE HOLD HARMLESSNESS
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FOR A TOTAL OF 20.DISTRICT FOUR HAD SEVEN DANGEROUS PREMISES CASES.
NO SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CASES.
EMERGENCY DEMOLITION AND NO HOLD HARMLESS AGREEMENTS FOR A TOTAL OF EIGHT.
COUNCIL DISTRICT FIVE HAD 21 DANGEROUS PREMISES CASES.
NO SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CASES 11 EMERGENCIES THREE.
HOLD HARMLESS AGREEMENTS FOR A TOTAL OF 35.
COUNCIL DISTRICT SIX HAD A TOTAL OF THREE DANGEROUS PREMISES.
NO SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CASES.
EMERGENCY DEMOLITIONS, NO HOLD HARNESS AGREEMENTS FOR A TOTAL OF SEVEN.
COUNCIL DISTRICT SEVEN HAD A TOTAL OF NINE DANGEROUS PREMISES CASES.
NO SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE.
EMERGENCY DEMOLITIONS, NO HOLD HARMLESS AGREEMENTS AND A TOTAL OF 12.
COUNCIL DISTRICT EIGHT HAD ONE DANGEROUS PREMISE CASES.
NO SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CASES, NO EMERGENCY DEMOLITIONS AND NO HOLD HARMLESS AGREEMENTS.
FOUR TOTAL OF ONE COUNCIL DISTRICT NINE, THERE WERE NO DANGEROUS PREMISES CASES.
ONE SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CASE, NO EMERGENCY DEMOLITIONS, NO HOLD.
HARMLESS AGREEMENTS FOR A TOTAL OF ONE.
AND COUNCIL DISTRICT 10 HAD ONE DANGEROUS PREMISE CASE ONE.
SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CASE TWO EMERGENCIES.
ONE, UH, NO HOLD HARMLESSNESS FOR A TOTAL OF FOUR.
THAT IS A TOTAL OF 150 CASES PRESENTED.
AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION QUESTIONS.
WHAT IS A HOLD HARMLESS HOLD HARMLESS AGREEMENT IS WHEN THE PROPERTY OWNER IS AGREEING TO THE DEMOLITION.
UM, BASICALLY JUST SAYING THAT THEY ARE WANTING THE DEMOLITION AND REQUESTING THE CITY'S ASSISTANCE TO DEMOLISH THE STRUCTURE.
WE HAVE ALL HAD, UH, ACTUALLY I GUESS WE'VE ALL HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE GUIDELINES, POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.
UH, AND IN THIS PARTICULAR CYCLE I DIDN'T FIND ANYTHING SPECIFIC THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP TO THE BOARD.
DOES ANYONE ELSE IN THE BOARD HAVE A SPECIFIC IN TERMS OF OUR PROCEDURES OR GUIDELINES THAT WE'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT? SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A VERY GOOD POLICY PROCEDURE THEN.
UH, JU DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING SPECIFIC THAT I, I FORGOT.
UM, JUST FOR THE PANEL, A, PANEL B FOR THE NEW CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR, THAT WILL BEGIN IN JANUARY, 2025 THROUGH DECEMBER 20, UH, 2025.
HOWEVER, MR. NELSON, YOU AND MR. ANDIS BOTH SIT ON PANEL B NOW.
SO FOR JANUARY WE'LL NEED ONE MEMBER TO MOVE OVER TO PANEL A AND ONE MEMBER FROM PANEL A TO MOVE OVER TO PANEL B.
AND I'LL LEAVE THAT TO MR. ANDREWS TO DECIDE WHICH PANEL HE WANTS TO BE ON.
NO, YOU STAY ON B I'LL, I'LL TAKE A THANK YOU.
I, I THINK I SAID YOU GET TO MAKE THE DECISION.
YOU MADE THE DECISION, THEREFORE YOU'LL MOVE TO PANEL A
YOU STAY ON, ON, IF WE CAN HAVE ONE MEMBER FROM PANEL A MOVE OVER TO PANEL B.
UH, AND YEAH, WE REALIZE THAT HAS TO BE DONE, BUT WE'LL LEAVE IT UP TO YOU TO MAKE THAT PANEL SELECTION.
UH, AFTER TALKING, AT LEAST WITH HOPEFULLY THE, THE INDIVIDUALS.
ANYTHING, UH, FROM STAFF, ANYTHING FROM THE BOARD WITHOUT OBJECTION ABOUT UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
WE'RE ADJOURNED AT 1142 ON 10 OCTOBER.
THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION.