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UH, BRIAN SMITH, UH, POOL COM.
IT IS 10 25 ON OCTOBER 31ST, 2024.
UH, SO THIS IS THE BUILDING RELATED FIRE CODES, APPEALS AND ADVISORY BOARD SUBCOMMITTEE FOR THE SWIMMING POOL CODE.
AND LET'S SEE, UH, THIS IS OUR FIRST ONE.
UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND DO THE INTERPRETATION ANNOUNCEMENT AGAIN, JUST FOR, WE HAVE THAT ON RECORDING S ALL RIGHT.
UM, LET'S DO A ROLL CALL REAL FAST.
MAKE SURE THAT WE, UH, HAVE THE QUORUM.
UH, MICHAEL RUST HAD SIGNED IN.
I'M GONNA PUT HIM DOWN AS GONE NOW.
SO FIRST AGENDA ITEMS TO SET UP A CHAIR FOR IT.
ALL READY? I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION.
CAN WE GET A SECOND? ANY DISCUSSION? YEAH.
ALL, UH, NO NEED TO ADD OR REMOVE ANYBODY SO WE CAN IMMEDIATELY JUMP INTO AMENDMENTS TO THE CHAPTER, UH, TO 2024.
SO I WILL ONCE AGAIN TRY TO TURN IT OVER TO JASMINE RO I THINK WE'RE A LITTLE BIT MORE PREPARED FOR THIS ONE.
UH, SHOULD BE IN SMOOTH TRANSITION.
I'M THE BUILDING PLANS EXAMINER SUPERVISOR OVER THE COMMERCIAL BUILDING AND ALSO COMMERCIAL, UH, ENERGY REVIEW TEAM.
UH, TO MY LEFT IS RAUL MELENDEZ.
UH, ALSO WE HAVE IN THE ROOM TO HELP US OUT.
WE HAVE OUR CHIEF PLUMBING INSPECTOR, MILTON MORALES.
UH, WE HAVE SOME, UH, SENIOR PLUMBING INSPECTORS AS WELL.
JUST A COUPLE OF CHANGES, UH, FROM OUR, UH, INTERNAL MEETINGS THAT WE IDENTIFIED WERE SIGNIFICANT.
WE'LL START WITH THE FIRST 1, 3 0 2 0.31.
IT WILL, UH, IT ADDED A STANDARD TO MATCH A FEDERAL LAW IN THE CONSUMER PRODUCT SAFETY COMMISSION.
UH, THERE'S A NEW LANGUAGE IN THE DEFINITION FOR SUCTION OUTLET FITTING ASSEMBLY, UH, JUST CONTINUES ON.
THE MANUFACTURERS MUST COMPLY TO THE STANDARD.
AND THEN ANY CUSTOM DESIGN WOULD REQUIRE A REGISTERED DESIGN PROFESSIONAL.
YOU ARE JUST PROPOSING IT BE ADOPTED AS WRITTEN, CORRECT? YES.
AND ALSO, UH, 0.2 POINT SCREEN ENCLOSURE AS A BARRIER.
UM, IT ADDS ANOTHER, UH, OPTION AS FAR AS THE REQUIRED BARRIER.
UM, LET'S GO AHEAD AND CLICK ON, WE DO HAVE A PICTURE AS AN EXAMPLE.
WE'VE SEEN THESE, UM, IN SOUTHERN STATES, UH, NOTABLY FLORIDA.
THE DESIGN REQUIREMENT, UH, FOR THE MESH, IT WOULD BE, UH, ENGINEER DESIGN TO RESIST, UH, THE MESH PULLOUT FROM THE FRAME AND ALSO FOR WIN LOAD.
SO ANOTHER OPTION, UH, TO GIVE OUR CUSTOMERS FOR THEIR REQUIRED BARRIER.
SO WHEN IT SAYS A DESIGN PROFESSION, IT'S MARK ROSS.
WHAT, WHAT IS A DESIGN PROFESSIONAL? IS THAT A ARCHITECT, A REGISTERED ENGINEER HAS THE STAMP IT.
SO WE WOULD, UH, FOLLOW FOR, UH, THE STATE CODE FOR THE ENGINEERING PRACTICE, FOR THE DESIGN PROFESSIONAL.
AND WOULD A FENCE BE A STRUCTURE UNDER THIS? SO IF THEY DID A SCREEN, THIS WOULD ALLOW A SCREEN MESH FENCE.
THEY HAVE FENCING THAT IS INSTALLED BY FENCE COMPANIES ALL THE TIME THAT THERE'S NO ENGINEERED YES, IT'S GONNA BE INCLUDED ON OUR, ON OUR NEXT ITEM.
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SO THAT WAS ITEM NUMBER TWO.AND SO ONTO THAT, ITEM NUMBER 3, 3 0 5 0.2 0.5, YOUR MES MESH FENCE AS A BARRIER.
THIS WAS A CHANGE, UH, FROM THE 2021.
THERE WAS, UM, FIVE ITEMS THAT THEY HAD TO COMPLY WITH.
NOW ALL OF THOSE ITEMS HAVE JUST BEEN MOVED INTO THIS NEW STANDARD.
SO BRIAN SMITH, SO THIS IS JUST INTO A NEW SECTION, BUT IT IS STILL, UH, ALLOWABLE.
ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY, KEEP GOING.
THIS IS GETTING INTO THE SLIP RESISTANCE.
AS FAR AS YOUR, UH, DECKING, THIS IS JUST A NEW WAY, UM, DESCRIBES HOW IT'S, UH, HOW THEY GET THAT RATING.
IT'S A, A PENDULUM SLIP RATING CLASSIFICATION, OR THERE'S ALSO A DYNAMIC COEFFICIENT OF FRICTION.
SO IS THERE A TABLE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT WOULD SHOW, SO SAY IF YOU HAD FLAT WORK CONCRETE, YOU COULDN'T HAVE A, UH, SMOOTH FINISH.
IT NEEDS TO BE A BROOM FINISH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
OR WHERE'S A TABLE THAT WOULD SHOW THE DIFFERENT FINISHES? UH, WITH THAT SLIP COEFFICIENT? SO THERE IS A TABLE, UH, FOR MATERIALS FOR THE POOL ITSELF, AS FAR AS THE DECKING SCROLL BACK UP.
YEAH, BECAUSE I MEAN, FLAT WORK NORMALLY ISN'T ENGINEERED.
IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS OF DOING THE FLAT WORK.
BUT THAT'S WHAT I, I MEAN, YOU CAN DO A STEEL TRIAL, SO YOU CAN HAVE IT SMOOTH.
THEY DO, UM, UH, SALT FINISH WITH, YOU CAN HAVE THAT, UH, THEY HAVE ADDITIONAL ADD-ONS, WHICH WOULD BE YOUR, UH, STAMP AND STAIN YOUR COOL DECKS, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.
I'M JUST WONDERING WHETHER THERE WAS A, A GENERAL TABLE THAT HAD FOR SOME BASIC FINISHES.
SO THE CODE DOES REFERENCE, UH, THE INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTIAL CODE, UM, ALSO THE IBC, WHICH DOES HAVE, UM, THOSE TABLES IN THERE.
UM, BUT THAT'S GONNA BE LIKE YOUR BASIC FOR FLOORING.
UM, AND I BELIEVE THAT GETS INTO LIKE EXTERIOR, UM, WALKWAYS, LIKE EGRESS, UH, THOSE WOULD BE IN THE IRC AND THE IBC.
SO DOES THIS MEAN THAT EVERY POOL DECK IS GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A ENGINEER STAMP IT SAYING IT'S CERTIFIED? BECAUSE THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT IT SAYS WHEN YOU SUBMIT YOU'RE DESIGN, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET AN ENGINEER TO SAY MY WHAT THAT BRIAN SMITH.
SO THAT'S WHY I WAS WONDERING WHETHER IT WAS A TABLE FOR THE PLANE REVIEW.
IT WOULD BE EASIER FOR THEM TO SEE, YOU KNOW, BASED UPON THE APPLICATION OF WHAT TYPE OF, UH, FINISH THEY'RE DOING AROUND THE POOL.
YOU KNOW, ARE THEY DOING A SMOOTH FINISH? I MEAN, TYPICAL THINGS OF WHAT MOST PEOPLE DO AROUND THE POOL AS FAR AS, UH, APPLICATIONS.
UM, BUT YEAH, IT, YOU HAVE TO MEET THOSE CRITERIA.
SO THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING FOR A TABLE.
'CAUSE OTHERWISE, IF THERE'S NOT A TABLE OR SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO PAY SOMEBODY TO CORRECT.
SO I, I, I BELIEVE WE SHOULD ADOPT IT.
I THINK, HOWEVER, BY THE TIME WE GET TO THE BOARD, THERE SHOULD BE A TABLE THAT Y'ALL PREPARE OR GO FIND WHAT THE COEFFICIENTS ARE AND SAY IF YOU HAVE THESE FINISHES, HERE'S, THESE ARE ACCEPTABLE FINISHES WITHOUT HAVING TO HAVE AN ENGINEER ABSENT THESE, YOU HAVE TO GET AN ENGINEER.
SO BRIAN SMITH IS, IS THERE A WAY THAT YOU COULD PRESENT A TABLE THAT WOULD HAVE FOR SOME, 'CAUSE THERE'S ONLY REALLY ABOUT 10 FINISHES THAT 99% OF THE POOLS DO AROUND, AROUND A POOL.
UM, IT WOULD BE A SMOOTH FINISH, YOU KNOW, A SALT FINISH, A BROOM FINISH.
UM, THEY HAVE COOL DECK, WHICH IS AN EXCELLENT APPLICATION STAMP.
UM, FLAGSTONE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS THAT CAN DONE EVEN JUST A PAINTED, UH, WHERE THEY ADD SAND INTO PAINT WHEN THEY PAINT CONCRETE.
SO SURE, IF THEY COULD HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO USE A THIRD PARTY TYPE OF THING, BUT WE CAN STILL HIT THE CRITERIA OF THE INTENT OF THE CODE OF WANTING THE NON-SICK.
UH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
YES, WE CAN TAKE A LOOK, UM, AT THOSE PRESCRIPTIVE, UH, IF THERE'S A PRESCRIPTIVE TABLE, UH, FURTHER IN THE IBC, UH, AND OR THE IRC AND GET THOSE BACK TO YOU.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? IS THERE A CERTAIN, UH, DISTANCE, LIKE FROM THE POOL OR, SO, SO TYPICALLY YOUR COPING WILL BE ABOUT 12 INCHES, UM, FROM THE POOL.
AND THEN THAT'S WHEN YOUR POOL DECKING WOULD GO.
NOW THE, THIS DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THAT COPING.
'CAUSE YOU, YOU HAVE A LOT OF VERY SMOOTH,
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POLISHED TYPE OF FINISHES, WHICH COULD BE, IT DOESN'T STATE WHETHER THAT'S THE COPING OR IT'S JUST THE OUTSIDE SURFACE.FROM WHAT I WAS READING, IT WAS THE OUTSIDE SURFACE.
BUT SAME THING AS THE COPING COULD BE THE SAME THING.
THE COPING WOULD HAVE TO BE NON-SLIP TOO.
SO YOU COULDN'T USE A, A SHINY THING BECAUSE IT'S BASICALLY IDENTIFYING ALL THE SURFACE.
OOH, I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT.
YEAH, WE CAN GET THOSE, UM, THOSE TABLES, BRIAN, THAT YOU'RE MENTIONING.
WE'LL TAKE A LOOK, UH, FURTHER INTO THE IBC AND THE IRC.
SO, SO JUST, JUST AS IN DISCUSSION, SO A LOT OF THE CONTEMPORARY POOLS, WE'LL USE A LOT OF, UH, TRAVERTINES, VERY SMOOTH CONTEMPORARY CLEAN LINES, BUT THOSE ARE SLIPPERY.
UM, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT IN A LOT OF THOSE POOLS TO DO IT.
SO NOT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT WOULD MAKE IT TOUGH BECAUSE THEN YOU HAVE TO HONE IT AND THEN THEY BECOME MORE SUSCEPTIBLE TO WEATHERING AND PROBLEMS. UH, THAT'S THE REASON WHY I WANT 'EM POLISHED AND SEALED.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE SLICKER, BUT NOT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT WOULD BE A SO ARE YOU RECOMMENDING THAT WE TAKE OUT THE WORD COPING FROM YES.
I, I DO LIKE THE, I LIKE THE DECKING AREAS.
UH, ALMOST ALL THE POOLS THAT I BUILD, I, I SPECIFICALLY USE COOL DECK OR SOME TYPE OF THING JUST FOR THIS REASON, WITH THE INTENT FOR THIS.
IT'S ALL ABOUT KEEPING THE KIDS FROM THERE.
BUT IT'S ALSO ABOUT WHEN I'M BUILDING IT FOR CLIENTS, THE LOOK, UM, AESTHETICS, UM, LONGEVITY WISE, WHAT KIND OF PRODUCTS WE'RE USING, THAT KINDA STUFF.
UM, IT WOULD MAKE IT MUCH MORE DIFFICULT WHEN I'M USING THAT.
UM, FLAGSTONES TEND TO HAVE ISSUES.
THEY'RE HARDER ON KIDS' FEET WHEN I'M, IF I'M DOING SOMETHING MORE ABRASIVE.
UM, AT LEAST FOR THE COPING PART.
AND I'M ASSUMING THE COPINGS IN THERE RIGHT NOW, AND Y'ALL AREN'T REALLY ENFORCING IT BECAUSE I WOULD AGREE WITH BRIAN.
THERE'S ALL THESE POOLS THAT HAVE THE SLIPPERY STUFF ALL AROUND THE COPING.
SO I WOULD SECOND YOUR MOTION TO TAKE OUT COPING FROM THAT SECTION.
SO IN ADDITION FOR THE, UM, CHART, IF YOU COULD GET FOR US, WE WOULD, UH, PROPOSE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO REMOVE, UH, REMOVE THE VERBIAGE COPING.
NEXT SECTION 3 0 6 0.5 AND 3 0 6 0.6.
UH, THIS IS WITHIN THE SECTION JUST, UM, FOR THE PURPOSE OF WATER DRAINAGE.
THERE WERE EXCEPTIONS, UM, INCLUDED GAPS WITHIN THAT, UH, WOOD DECKING ARE AN ALTERNATIVE TO THAT REQUIRED SLOPE FOR THE DRAINAGE.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANYONE? LOOKS GOOD.
3 0 7 0.12 COLORS AND FINISHES THIS AGAIN, ANOTHER CLARIFICATION.
IT CHANGED, UM, JUST AS FAR AS THE, UH, COLOR SCALE, IT WENT FROM A 6.5 MUNSELL COLOR VALUE TO AN 8.0 ON THE MUNSELL GRACE SCALE.
AGAIN, A CLARIFICATION, UM, EXPANDING ON HOW THAT'S MEASURED.
THIS IS A MORE UNIVERSAL WAY OF MEASURING, CONVERTING THE LIGHTNESS OF A COLOR TO A GRAY.
I GOT, I GOT A QUESTION ON THIS.
SO THE, YOU'RE THIS ONE SAYING, UM, AS FAR AS IT GOING BACK UP THAT THE INTERIOR FINISHING OF THE POOLS CAN ONLY BE LIGHT COLORED OR WHITE.
AND WHAT I WOULD TELL YOU IS THE STATE HAS ON COMMERCIAL POOLS HAS GONE TO THAT SO THAT IF SOMEBODY IS FLOATING ON THE BOTTOM THE POOL, YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE 'EM.
AND SO THAT'S WHY THEY'VE GONE TO THE LIGHT COLOR INSTEAD OF NO DARK.
IT IS FOR THE, THE SAFETY AND VISIBILITY.
SO A LOT OF THE QUARTZ FINISHES HAS SOME OF THE, IT, IT, IT VARIES IN DEPENDING ON THE DEPTH OF THE COLORS.
SO I'D BE INTERESTED IN SEEING HOW IT MEETS SOME OF THE QUARTS OR THE, SOME OF THE POOL FINISHES WHERE YOU GET SOME OF THE BLUES AND IT GETS A LITTLE DARKER BLUE.
I, I CAN UNDERSTAND ON THE BLACKS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE MORE ISSUES WHEN WE'RE DOING THOSE.
IT WAS COOL FOR A WHILE, BUT THEY ALWAYS HAVE MORE PROBLEMS. THEY'LL SHOW ALL THE LIME, EVERYTHING ELSE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU USE A MARONITE.
BUT THE QUARTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, THERE'S A DIFFERENCES DEPENDING ON THE DEPTH OF HOW IT'LL LOOK IN THE WATER.
SO I'D BE INTERESTED IN TO SEE WITH THE SCALE WHICH ONES WOULD NOT BE PART OF SOME OF THEIR STANDARD COLORS.
UH, BECAUSE SOME OF THE DARKER BLUES IS VERY POPULAR, SO YOU GO FROM LIGHTER BLUE TO DARKER BLUES.
UH, EVEN SOME OF THE AQUAS AND
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THAT KIND OF STUFF.I COULD UNDERSTAND THE BLACKS FOR THAT REASON.
BUT, BUT AS FAR AS COLOR SCALES, HOW DOES THAT, HOW DO WE KNOW WHAT IT AFFECTS THOSE COLORS THAT ARE NORMALLY FROM A CLIENT THAT WE'RE TALKING RESIDENTIAL, NOT COMMERCIAL, BUT A RESIDENTIAL TO MEET? UM, SO CAN I MAKE THIS? I THINK WE ADOPT IT LIKE IT IS BY THE TIME WE GET TO THE BIG MEETING, WE CAN CONTACT THE POOL COMPANY TO SAY WHAT COLORS SCHEMES MEET THIS OR GET A TABLE.
NOT THAT IT'S IN THE CODE, BUT SO WE KIND OF JUST UNDERSTAND, JUST SO WE'RE NOT REMOVING HALF OF THE POTENTIAL STANDARD COLORS THAT ARE OUT THERE, THAT CLIENTS, 'CAUSE THEY'LL, THEY'LL GO, WAIT A SECOND, HERE'S ALL THE STANDARD COLORS I CAN PULL ONLINE.
MM-HMM,
AND THAT'S THE INTENT OF THIS CODE IS TO, IS THE REAL BLACK DARK COLORS.
BUT THERE IS SOME VARIATIONS THAT COME IN, UH, WITH SOME OF THE OTHER ONES AND WHETHER IT MEETS THIS CRITERIA OR NOT, I DON'T KNOW.
SO IF I COULD HAVE THAT INFORMATION, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
WE OKAY TO MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM? YES, MA'AM.
3 0 7 0.2 MATERIALS AND STRUCTURAL DESIGN.
THIS IS AN ADDITION TO AN EXISTING TABLE.
IT ADDED CONCRETE, UH, CONCRETE WAS NOT IN THERE PREVIOUSLY.
UM, WE'RE THINKING, UH, SOME OTHER JURISDICTIONS WERE BECAUSE IT WAS NOT STATED IN THE TABLE.
THEY WERE, UH, NOT ALLOWING CONCRETE AS A MATERIAL.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS.
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, FOR ELEVATED POOLS.
THIS IS A NEW SECTION AND A NEW DEFINITION, UH, WE'RE PROPOSING TO ADOPT AS WRITTEN.
UH, WE DO HAVE A, UH, PICTURE WE CAN SHOW YOU.
UH, THIS COMES FROM, UH, PREVIOUSLY THERE WAS NO GUIDANCE FOR THIS TYPE OF INSTALLATION IN THE CODE BEFORE.
UM, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF LAWSUITS RECORDED REGARDING, UH, LEAKING POOLS OVER HABITABLE AREAS.
UH, SPECIALIZED CONSTRUCTION AS NEEDED PER THE STANDARD FOR MATERIALS PIPING, UH, VALUES WATERPROOFING AND LEAK DETECTION.
AND UP ON YOUR SCREEN IS JUST AN EXAMPLE.
WE HAVE A POOL ELEVATED UP FROM THE GROUND, WHICH COULD BE OVER EITHER NON INHABITABLE OR HABITABLE, UH, SPACES.
ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NOPE.
SO CAN I, IS THERE A DEFINITION OF ELEVATED POOL IN THE, IN THE, UH, YES.
AND IT'S THERE ON YOUR, ON YOUR COPY? YES.
ANY PERMANENTLY INSTALLED POOL SPA, COLD PLUNGE, UH, CATCH BASIN OVERFLOW TROUGH, INCLUDING ANY CONNECTED WATER FEATURE OR BODY OF WATER, UH, THAT IS OVER A HABITABLE, OCCUPIABLE OR UNOCCUPIED SPACE.
AND THEN IT LISTS, UH, THREE MORE, THREE MORE ITEMS THERE, EITHER INSIDE THE THERMAL OR OUTSIDE THE THERMAL ENVELOPE OR A COMBINATION.
SO, SO MY QUESTION IS, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE PICTURE? IF EVERYTHING BELOW THAT POOL IS JUST GROUND, WOULD THAT BE AN UN OCCUPIABLE SPACE BECAUSE IT'S, OR IS IT TALKING ABOUT BUILDING? SO IN OTHER WORDS, YOU COULD HAVE AN ELEVATED POOL OVER JUST DIRT.
WHERE, WHERE THEY'VE, THEY'VE MADE A STRUCTURE TO HOLD UP THE POOL AND IT'S BASICALLY NOTHING'S BELOW IT.
I BELIEVE WE ARE INTERPRETING IT AS THERE IS SPACE BELOW, EITHER HABITABLE OR NON HABITABLE.
SO, SO THE POOL COULD BE FOUR OR EIGHT FOOT OUT OF GRADE, BUT YOU COULD BUILD IT UP, UH, IN BASE, IN CONCRETE AND IT WOULD NOT MEET THESE CRITERIA.
THAT'S HOW I'M INTERPRETING IT.
THAT'S HOW I INTERPRET AS WELL.
SO IT'S ONLY WHEN IT'S, IT'S, UH, CANTILEVERED.
BASICALLY IT CANTILEVERED AND HELD UP BY, UH, SOME TYPE OF A WOOD STRUCTURE BY STRUCTURE.
THAT'S SECTION THREE, 12.4 0.4 SECTION OUTLET FITTING ASSEMBLIES.
THIS EXPANDS AND PARDON THE TYPO ON THE, ON THE SHEET EXPANDS THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE ASSEMBLY TO BE LISTED AND LABELED.
AND THEN ANYTHING THAT IS, UH, NON MANUFACTURED, AGAIN, WE WOULD REQUIRE, UH, CERTIFIED
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BY A DESIGN PROFESSIONAL.ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? I THINK THAT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
GO TO THE NEXT ON OPPOSITE PAGE.
SUPPLEMENTAL TREATMENT SYSTEM.
THIS IS A NEW SECTION AND DEFINITION.
WE'RE PROPOSING TO ADOPT IT AS WRITTEN.
UM, THIS IS REFERENCING SUPPLEMENTAL SYSTEMS MEET THE MINIMUM REDUCTION IN PATHOGENS.
UH, SECONDARY SYSTEMS, UH, DON'T NECESSARILY MEET THAT REDUCTION REQUIREMENT.
SO THE GOAL IS TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF INFECTIVE.
CRYPTO CERIDIAN PARVIN OYS, UH, YOU'RE WELCOME.
PRIMARILY FOR CHILDREN UNDER FIVE OR PEOPLE SUSCEPTIBLE TO INFECTION.
UH, WE DID, UH, IN OUR DISCUSSION FIND MANY PUBLIC AQUATIC VENUES ARE ALREADY INSTALLING THIS SUPPLEMENTAL TREATMENT SYSTEM.
WHAT WOULD THIS, IN OTHER WORDS, YOU'RE CHLORINATING THE WATER AS IT'S GOING THROUGH A PUMP.
WHAT WOULD BE THE SECONDARY SYSTEM? LIKE ULTRAVIOLET LIGHT OR SOMETHING? YOU COULD USE UV.
UH, THEY ALSO HAVE, UH, IL SILVER IONS OKAY.
THAT YOU CAN DO ALONG WITH COPPER.
UM, THAT, THAT WORKS QUITE WELL.
UM, AND YOU WOULD HAVE TO ON THESE KIND OF POOLS YOU WOULD'VE TO PUT BOTH ON.
AND IT'S, UH, GEORGE SLEEP, IT, IT'S RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL POOLS.
SO THIS IS RESIDENTIAL IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
THIS IS RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL.
I'M SORRY, BUT IT MEETS THE SAME TYPE OF THING.
I DO UV, I DO, UH, I IONIZATION BULK COPPER AND SILVER AND I USE THE OZONES.
SO LET, LET ME, UH, UH, WOULD THIS APPLY TO A BIG POOL THAT HAS A WAITING AREA NEXT TO IT? IT DOES.
IN OTHER WORDS, MOST, MOST SWIMMING POOLS TODAY IN THE COMMERCIAL VENUE HAVE A 18 INCH AREA TO PUT, UH, YEAH.
THAT IT'S NOT, THEY DON'T HAVE A SEPARATE SYSTEM.
IT IS REQUIRING FOR NEW RIGHT NOW.
THAT'S WHAT THIS CODE IS STATING.
WELL, NO, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
IT'S PROPOSING IT IS NOT CURRENTLY IN THE CODE.
AND I JUST THINK IT'S, IT, I THINK IT'S OVERKILL BECAUSE AT THAT POINT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DESIGN A SYSTEM THAT HAS SEPARATE FLOW, BUT THE WATER IS GETTING MIXED TOGETHER.
THREE 20 APPLIES TO ONLY PUBLIC POOLS AND SPAS.
WELL, ACTUALLY HE'S TALKING ABOUT PUBLI.
SO, SO FOR, UM, SAY AN APARTMENT COMPLEX WHERE YOU HAVE A MAIN POOL AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE A WAITING POOL FOR KIDS THAT ARE APPROXIMATELY 18 INCHES WHAT THEY DO.
IT'S FOR, IT'S FOR THOSE SEATS THAT YOU CORRECT.
IT, IT IT IS WHERE THEY HAVE THE BEACH END.
WELL, NO, IF IT'S PART OF THE POOL THAT'S, THAT WOULD NOT BE PART OF A WAITING POOL.
UH, THAT IS NOT AN INTERACTIVE, UH, WATER PLAY FEATURES NOT A THERAPY POOL.
SO WE WOULD NOT MEET THESE, IT WOULD NEED TO BE A SEPARATE ONE.
SO IF YOU HAD A SEPARATE POOL THAT WAS JUST ALL 18 INCHES.
SIMILARLY, THEY HAVE LIKE THE MAYAN PRINCESS, UH, THAT'S DOWN IN, YOU KNOW, THE COAST FOR THE, FOR JUST THE KIDS TO MM-HMM.
THEN YOU WOULD NEED TO BE PUMPED SEPARATELY AND IT WOULD NEED TO BE TREATED SEPARATELY.
I, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO MAKE A, ADD AN EXCEPTION SO THAT IT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT CLEAR THAT IT, THIS DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE BEACH ENTRIES AT ALL.
THIS, THIS DOES NOT, UM, HIT THAT.
I MEAN, JASMINE, CAN WE CLARIFY THAT? SO THAT IS OUR INTERPRETATION.
SO IF THEY HAVE THE BEACH ENTRY, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY PUT THE LAWN CHAIRS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
WE WOULD NOT INTERPRET THAT AS, HEY, YOU HAVE A WAITING POOL THAT NEEDS THIS, EVEN THOUGH IT'S TECHNICALLY PART OF THIS BIGGER POOL SYSTEM.
IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A TOTALLY SEPARATE BODY OF WATER THAT'S SEPARATED FROM A SEPARATE POOL.
THAT'S HOW I WAS READING THIS.
SO THAT, THAT'S HOW THE CITY WOULD INTERPRET.
AND THAT WOULD GO TO INTERACTIVE WATER PLAY FEATURES.
SO IF IT HAS SOMETHING THAT'S SPRAYING WATER UP THE KIDS.
SO LIKE HOLLYWOOD PARK, THEY HAVE THEIR LITTLE, THEIR POOL AREA.
THEY HAVE THE, UH, INTERACTIVE WATER FEATURES THAT WOULD'VE HAD TO BE UNDER THIS PART OF THE CODE AS LONG AS IT'S NOT AS PART OF A REGULAR POOL.
UM, AND A THERAPY POOL WOULD BE LIKE A HOT TUB? YES.
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I MEAN THERE LIKE EVERY SINGLE HOT PO HOT, HOT, HOT TUB.I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE EVERY SINGLE HOT TUB.
I THINK IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S SPECIFIC FOR THERAPY.
SPECIFICALLY SAYS THERAPY POOLS.
UM, 'CAUSE THERE IS DISTINCTION FOR HOT TUBS WITHIN THE CODE, SO YOU'RE CORRECT.
THEY DO THEIR, UH, THEIR HEALTH INSPECTION FOR THE SWIMMING POOLS.
SO EVEN ON, I'M SORRY, EVEN ON RESIDENTIAL, UH, GEORGE SLEEPY, EVEN ON A RESIDENTIAL APPLICATION, YOU HAVE A WAITING POOL OR SEPARATE? SEPARATE.
SO THIS, IT HAS TO BE CIRCULATED.
SE YOU'RE GONNA, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT'S GONNA COME IN AND CHECK.
THIS DOESN'T APPLY TO RESIDENTIAL.
SO THREE 20.1, THE START OF THIS SECTION SPECIFICALLY SAYS FOR PUBLIC POOLS, PUBLIC POOLS AND SPAS.
SO I HAVE A, THIS WOULD APPLY TO NEW CONSTRUCTION ONLY? CORRECT.
SO IS THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT GOING OUT THERE AS PART OF YOUR BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS TO INSPECT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
THEY PERFORM A PLAN REVIEW AND THEN THEY PERFORM THEIR PER INSPECTION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS? OKAY, WE CAN MOVE TO THE NEXT, NEXT SECTION 3 24 0.1 FOR THE HANDHOLDS, UH, HANDHOLD FOR DEVICES.
THIS IS JUST REVISED TO DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL, UH, AND COMMERCIAL.
UH, ANOTHER SECTION THAT'S JUST REVISED TO BE IN LINE WITH THE, UH, FEDERAL REQUIREMENT.
ANY QUESTIONS? UH, PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
MARK, WHAT IS GENDER? OKAY, THANK YOU.
OKAY, WE'RE JUMPING, UM, ALL THE WAY UP TO CHAPTER SIX.
UM, IN THE PREVIOUS CHAPTER FOUR AND CHAPTER FIVE, WE IDENTIFIED, UM, CHANGES IN THERE WERE VERY MINOR, MORE GRAMMATICAL AND EDITORIAL CHANGES.
SO MOVING UP TO CHAPTER 6, 0 9 0.2 0.1, DRESSING AND SANITARY FACILITIES.
UH, THIS IS AN ADDED EXCEPTION, UH, FOR HOTELS, UH, MOTELS, APARTMENT, UH, STRUCTURES.
YOU GOOD WITH THAT, MARK? OKAY.
OUR VERY LAST ITEM, JUMPING TO CHAPTER EIGHT, TABLE 8 0 3 0.1, THE DESIGN WATERLINE CONSTRUCTION TOLERANCE.
THIS IS A NEW TABLE FOR THE LOCATION OF THE DESIGN WATERLINE, UM, STEMS FROM A DRAFT UPDATES, UH, TO THAT, UH, AN C STANDARD AND P-H-T-A-I-C-C FIVE STANDARD.
YEAH, I THINK WE'RE GOOD ON IT.
AND THAT IS IT FOR THE INTERNATIONAL SWIMMING POOL AND SPA CODE.
AND THEN CAN I JUST ASK ONE MORE THING? UM, IN THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE, THERE IS REQUIREMENTS FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES FOR GATES AND FENCES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
CAN WE JUST MAKE SURE THAT WHAT'S EVER IN THIS EITHER MATCH IT, THAT IT MATCHES THAT? BECAUSE IT HAS STUFF FOR GATES AND SWING TESTS AND ALL THAT.
AND IF, IF THE GATES DON'T MEET IT WHEN THE, AT THE TIME IT'S CONSTRUCTED, IF YOU'RE INSPECTING THOSE THINGS, THEY'RE OUT OF COMPLIANCE.
YEAH, IT HAS A STANDARD IN THERE THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING ADOPTING WITH NO CHANGES.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER THE GATES ARE AND ALL THAT STUFF, IT MATCHES IN HERE.
SO WHEN IT'S BUILT, IT'S BUILT, SO IT CONFORMS WITH THAT.
YES, WE CAN CROSS REFERENCE THAT WITH THE PROPERTY, PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE.
UM, BUT YES, THIS, THAT DOES ALSO APPEAR HERE IN CHAPTER THREE AS FAR AS THE GATES AND THE FENCES.
SO IF I CAN GET A MOTION APPROVAL AS WE AMENDED.
YEAH, THERE WAS AN AMENDMENT WE DID HAVE ON NUMBER, UH, FOUR ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
UH, AS PER LOOKING FOR THE CHART AND AN EXCEPTION ON THE COPING.
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UM, SO IF I CAN GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF EVERYTHING WITH THAT INCLUDED.DO I HAVE A SECOND? RON ACKERMAN SECOND MOTION.
AND SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ANY NEGATIVE? THE MOTION PASSES.
UH, SUBCOMMITTEE, UH, SORRY FOR THE DELAYED START TO THAT, UH, FOR THOSE THAT JOINED US FOR THE SECOND MEETING.
UH, BUT WE DID PRESS THROUGH AND GET US OUT OF HERE ABOUT 11 O'CLOCK.
FEEL, FEEL FREE, UH, TO GRAB SOME TO GO WITH YOU, UH, FOR LUNCH IF YOU, IF YOU WANT.
UH, THAT CONCLUDES ALL THE SUBCOMMITTEE MEETINGS.
UH, BASED OFF WHAT WE DECIDED WITH THE BUILDING CODE LAST, UH, JUST A SECOND AGO, WE'VE TABLED A COUPLE ITEMS THAT WE'LL TAKE TO THE FULL, FULL BOARD.
UH, BUT RIGHT NOW THE REGISTRATION AND THE, UM, FARS, WELL, I THINK WE'VE TAKEN CARE OF FARS, BUT THE WWE, UH, THE WILDLAND INTERFACE.
SO THOSE ARE BASICALLY THE ONLY TWO ITEMS THAT WERE TABLED.
EVERYTHING ELSE ACROSS ALL THE OTHER SUBCOMMITTEES, I BELIEVE AT LEAST HAD SOME RECOMMENDATION FROM THE SUBCOMMITTEE, UH, WILL STILL PRESENT TO THE FULL BOARD, UH, ALL THE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES.
UM, ANYTHING THAT MIGHT'VE BEEN, UM, ON THE, ON THE LINE.
YOU KNOW, IF IT WASN'T A FULL APPROVAL FROM BOTH THE SUBCOMMITTEES AND STAFF, UM, OR OTHER CITIZENS OR SUB UH, STAKEHOLDERS, WE'LL PRESENT MAJOR CHANGES, UH, TO THE BOARD, UH, MOVING FORWARD.
SO I'D REACH OUT TO ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS LAST WEEK ASKING WHO IS AVAILABLE FOR EITHER, UH, THE EIGHTH OR THE 15TH.
UM, THE GOAL, I THINK I HAVE ENOUGH FOR QUORUM FOR NEXT WEEK.
UH, RON, I'LL GET, I KNOW YOU WON'T BE AVAILABLE, BUT I'LL REACH OUT TO JOHN AND SEE IF YOU CAN SIT IN FOR US.
BUT I THINK EVEN WITHOUT THAT WE'LL STILL HAVE QUORUM.
I DON'T ANTICIPATE IT BEING A ONE MEETING.
UH, WE PROBABLY WILL BE LOOKING AT TWO MEETINGS, SO WE'LL PROBABLY DO THAT EIGHTH AND 15TH, UH, AS APPROACH TO THAT.
UH, BUT WE WILL, WE'LL, UH, GET THOSE MEETING INVITES OUT TOMORROW.
NOW THAT WE, I DIDN'T WANNA DO THAT UNTIL WE CONCLUDED EVERYTHING HERE.
SO, UH, THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY'S TIME.
UH, COREY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH AS A, UH, NON-BOARD MEMBER, UM, JOINING US.
I KNOW YOU SAID IN ON THREE NOW SUBCOMMITTEES, UM, YOU'RE VERY, VERY IMPACTFUL ON THOSE.
I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO TALK TO SAL BEFORE, BUT I'LL REACH OUT TO HIM AS WELL.
UH, BUT WE DO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AS PART OF THIS PROCESS.
UM, YOU KNOW, FEEL FREE TO JOIN US FOR THE BOARD.
I CAN LET YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT.
YOU CAN SIT IN, UH, IF YOU WANNA BE PART OF THAT PROCESS, UM, YOU KNOW, BUT FULL BOARD WILL BE TAKING IT FROM THERE.
UH, ANY QUESTIONS UH, BEFORE WE WRAP UP, JEREMY, ARE WE GONNA GO TO THE FORMAT OF THE BOARD WHERE WE HAVE THE BIG ROUND TABLE FOR THE BOARD MEETING SO THAT WE ALL CAN SIT AT THE TABLE AND PARTICIPATE PLEASE? I MEAN, YEAH, WE DEF YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT.
I'LL, UH, DO THAT AND I'LL, UH, NOTIFY ALL THE, UH, ALTERNATES AS WELL IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO SIT IN ON THAT.
AND I KNOW, UH, EDWARD, ARE YOU AVAILABLE NEXT FRIDAY? IT'S GONNA BE AT NINE O'CLOCK? YES, ROUGHLY.
I MEAN, WELL, LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU'RE YEAH, BUT MY GRANDSONS HAD SURGERY.
SO IF, I MEAN, IF YOU WANT TO COME IN AFTERWARDS, JUST, I KNOW GARY HAD ALREADY SAID, AND UH, GARY BEING THE PRIMARY FOR THE BOARD.
UM, AND ALSO GARY, WHILE I'LL HAVE YOU HERE, IS THIS SOMETHING YOU WANT TO ENTERTAIN ON SWAPPING PRIMARY AND ALTERNATES SINCE I KNOW YOU'RE KIND OF MOVING TO MORE OF A PART-TIME, UH, THING OR DO YOU WANNA STAY AS THE PRIMARY FOR THE FULL BOARD? UH, I THINK IT PRIMARY, WELL, NO, CURRENTLY YOU'RE THE PRIMARY AND EDWARDS THE SECONDARY, BUT I CAN MAKE IT AS A ITEM NEXT WEEK IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT TO ENTERTAIN SINCE LIKE I SAID YOU'RE MENTIONING OKAY.
I'LL PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE MEETING.
UH, Y'ALL DON'T HAVE TO BE PRESENT FOR THAT, BUT IT JUST, THAT WAY WE CAN MAKE THAT THING.
IT'S SOMETHING WE DON'T HAVE TO GO TO COUNCIL FOR.
UM, I'LL, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MEET.
I WE'LL SEE IF WE MAYBE CAN START.
I, I THINK WE'LL STILL START AT NINE O'CLOCK.
THERE'S STILL PLENTY OF THINGS WE MIGHT PUSH THE ELECTRICAL.
SO IF YOU ARE ABLE TO JOIN US, UH, WE MIGHT JUST DO THE ELECTRICAL LATER.
UH, BUT I'LL ALSO CONFIRM IF JOHN CAN BE THERE AND CAN YOU ALL GET, UH, BOTH OF THEM THE AMENDMENT THAT WE WROTE FOR THE, THAT I SENT TO VALERIE SO THAT THEY CAN LOOK IT OVER BEFORE THE MEETING AND KNOW WHAT THE LANGUAGE SAYS ON THE OBSERVATION OF, UH, HAVING THE, THE DEFINITION OF ONSITE SUPERVISION.
UM, YEAH, AND THEN CAN GO FROM THERE.
SO, BUT THAT, YEAH, THAT'LL PROBABLY BE THE INTENT.
I'LL GET A MEETING INVITE OUT, BUT WE'LL GET STARTED AT NINE O'CLOCK NEXT WEEK.
AND CRYSTAL YEAH, WE'LL JUST TRY TO MOVE ELECTRICAL LATER IN THAT PRESENTATION.
UH, SO THAT IF UH, EDWARD CAN JOIN US A LITTLE BIT LATER, THEN THAT'LL BE THE PROCESS THAT WILL GO THAT APPROACH.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVE ADJOURNED AT UH, 10 10 59.