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GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

IF WE COULD BEGIN WITH OUR SPANISH TRANSLATION SERVICES STATEMENT PLEASE.

RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

MY NAME IS ROB SIPES AND I AM THE CHAIR OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT SEVEN ZONING COMMISSIONER.

I HEREBY CALL THIS REGULAR NOTICE MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION INTO SESSION.

THE TIME IS ONE 10.

YEAH, WE DID ADVANCE THE CLOCK.

THE CLOCK IS RIGHT.

GREAT.

ALRIGHT.

UM, I'D LIKE TO DO A ROLL CALL BY ALLOWING THE ZONING COMMISSIONERS TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, STARTING WITH THE COMMISSIONER OF MY FAR LEFT.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

MARCO BARROS.

UH, DISTRICT NINE, JOHN BUSMAN, DISTRICT FIVE.

DANIEL KELLEN, DISTRICT ONE, JOHN WITT, DISTRICT 10.

TAYLOR WATSON, DISTRICT TWO.

JANELLE CHASE MAYOR'S OFFICE.

GEORGE NIOSA, DISTRICT THREE.

EDDIE REYES, DISTRICT FOUR.

KEN NOIT.

DISTRICT SIX STAFF IS A QUORUM PRESENT.

THE QUORUM IS PRESENT.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU.

WOULD EVERYONE PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PRIOR TO COMMENCING OUR HEARING, I WOULD LIKE OUR STAFF TO REVIEW THE MEETING FORMAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE TO STAFF.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

BEFORE I BEGIN, PLEASE TURN YOUR PHONES ON VIBRATE OR TURN THEM OFF.

THE ZONING COMMISSION IS AN 11 MEMBER BODY APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ZONING CASES UPON RECEIVING A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION.

YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO FORWARD YOUR CASE TO CITY COUNCIL.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PROCESS, PLEASE CONTACT YOUR CASE MANAGER.

STAFF WILL BEGIN EACH CASE WITH A SHORT PRESENTATION OF THE REQUEST.

PART OF THE PRESENTATION INCLUDES A MAP THAT SHOWS THE AREA TO BE CONSIDERED FOR REZONING AND PROPERTY WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT.

PROPERTY CHECK MARKS INDICATE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND AN EX INDICATES THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN OPPOSITION.

FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION AND ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION, THE APPLICANT WILL PRESENT THEIR REQUEST FOR THOSE THAT SIGNED UP FOR TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE PROPOSED REZONING.

YOU WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THAT YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

THOSE IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO MINUTES PER SPEAKER AND YOU'RE NOT OBLIGATED TO UTILIZE THE MAXIMUM TIME LIMITATION.

YOU WILL BE INFORMED WHEN YOUR TWO MINUTES ARE UP.

FOR THOSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEIR TIME TO A SPEAKER, THE SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO PEOPLE GIVING THEIR TIME FOR A TOTAL OF SIX MINUTES.

THOSE GIVING UP THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AND SIGNED IN TO SPEAK AND MUST YIELD THAT TIME WHEN THE SPEAKER GOES TO THE PODIUM.

SO JUST STAND AND YIELD YOUR TIME.

THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL LIMITED TO ONE SPEAKER WITH A TWO MINUTE TIME LIMIT ALONG WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSION QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

[Zoning Items  ]

THANK YOU.

UH, STAFF IF WE COULD GO OVER ANY WITHDRAWN OR POSTPONED ITEMS PLEASE.

WE HAVE TWO ITEMS THAT ARE POSTPONED.

UM, ITEM NUMBER ONE, LOCATED AT 1 2 1 3 9 JONES MALTSBERGER ROAD AND ITEM NUMBER THREE LOCATED AT TWO 40 HAWTHORNE STREET AND 1 22 ORANGE STREET.

ALL RIGHT LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU'RE HERE FOR THE PROPERTIES AT ON JONES MALTSBERGER OR UH HAWTHORNE STREET, THOSE ITEMS HAVE BEEN POSTPONED AND WE WILL NOT BE HEARING OR TAKING ACTION ON THEM TODAY AND YOU WILL BE RE NOTIFIED IF AND WHEN FUTURE ACTION ON THOSE ITEMS OCCURS.

SO Y'ALL ARE FREE TO LEAVE, SO THANK YOU.

UM, STAFF IF WE COULD PLEASE GO OVER THE LIST OF ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

ITEMS ON CONSENT ARE ITEMS 4, 6, 8, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 17, 20 AND 21.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

UM, COMMISSIONERS, ANY OF THESE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA YOU WISH TO PULL? LOOKING LEFT, SEEING NONE, LOOKING RIGHT, SEEING NONE.

IF WE COULD READ THOSE INTO THE RECORD PLEASE.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FIVE TO R FIVE CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE

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FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.

LOCATED AT 25 0 6 GREEN CREST DRIVE, 32 NOTICES WERE SENT.

ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR, TWO OPPOSED AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.

ITEM NUMBER SIX IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM RM FOUR AND MF 33 TO MF 18 WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.

LOCATED AT 91 0 3 WBA ROAD.

UM, THE APPLICANT IS AMENDING THE SUBJECT PROPERTY TO 3.327 ACRES OUT OF NCB 1 4 7 9 5 44 NOTICES WERE SENT.

ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR, UM, AND OUTSIDE 200 FEET.

SEVEN.

RECEIVED IN FAVOR.

FIVE.

OPPOSED.

UM, RIOT COMMONS COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION DID NOT PROVIDE A RESPONSE, I'M SORRY, IT'S ZERO IN INSIDE 200 FEET.

ZERO.

ZERO IN FAVOR.

FIVE.

OPPOSED OUTSIDE.

200 FEET.

WE HAVE SEVEN IN FAVOR AND NINE OPPOSED.

ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS ASSIGNING ZONING TO A PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED SOUTHEAST AT THE INTERSECTION OF LOOP FOUR 10.

AND NEW SULFUR SPRINGS ROAD CURRENTLY OUTSIDE CITY, OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS BY APPLYING MXD WITH A MAXIMUM DENSITY OF 40 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

AND A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C TWO NP 10 TO MXD WITH A MAXIMUM DENSITY OF 40 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE WITH ALL OVERLAYS.

TWO REMAIN THE SAME.

GENERALLY LOCATED SOUTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF LOOP FOUR 10 IN NEW SULFUR SPRINGS ROAD 125 NOTICES WERE SENT.

ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR.

13.

OPPOSED.

AND THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.

ITEM NUMBER 10 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO IDZ ONE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR A NON-COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT WITH A REDUCED FIVE FOOT BUFFER YARD WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.

LOCATED AT 3 0 0 5 WEST MARTIN STREET.

27 NOTICES WERE SENT.

ZERO.

RECEIVED IN FAVOR.

ONE.

OPPOSED WEST END HOPE AND ACTION NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION DID NOT PROVIDE A RESPONSE.

PROSPECT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED.

ITEM NUMBER 11 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C ONE TO IDZ ONE WITH USES PERMITTED IN C ONE LIGHT COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND RM FOUR RESIDENTIAL MIXED USE DISTRICT WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.

LOCATED AT 1 2 1 0 SOUTH ALAMO STREET 113 NOTICES WERE SENT.

FIVE.

RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED.

KING WILLIAM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR AND SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS DISTRICT ONE RESIDENT ASSOCIATION GAVE NO RESPONSE.

ITEM NUMBER 12 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C3 TO ED WITH OLIVER LAKES TO REMAIN THE SAME.

LOCATED AT 9,800 HYATT RESORT DRIVE AND 22 1 2 ROGERS ROAD.

10 NOTICES WERE SENT.

ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR.

ONE.

OPPOSED AND NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

UM, WITHIN 200 FEET.

OUTSIDE 200 FEET WE RECEIVED ONE IN OPPOSITION.

ITEM NUMBER 13 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM I ONE AND C TWO TO MF I'M SORRY, FROM I ONE C TWO.

YES.

UM, TO MF 33 WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.

LOCATED AT 2230 AUSTIN HIGHWAY AND 2334 AUSTIN HIGHWAY.

53 NOTICES WERE SENT.

ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR.

ZERO OPPOSED.

AND NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.

ITEM NUMBER 14 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C3 NA AND C3 RS WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR CLOCK AND BROOM MANUFACTURING, WAREHOUSING AND OUTSIDE STORAGE TO IDZ TWO WITH USES PERMITTED IN C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WAREHOUSING AND 15 DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.

LOCATED AT ONE 40 FREDERICKSBURG ROAD AND 1 54 FREDERICKSBURG ROAD.

39 NOTICES WERE SENT.

THREE.

RECEIVED IN FAVOR? ONE.

OPPOSED GARDENDALE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS DISTRICT ONE RESIDENT ASSOCIATION GAVE NO RESPONSE OUTSIDE 200 ROOF FEET WE RECEIVED ONE IN FAVOR.

ITEM NUMBER 15 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C TWO TO MH MHC WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.

LOCATED AT 1 2 5 1 5 FISHER ROAD.

17 NOTICES WERE SENT.

ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR.

ZERO OPPOSED.

AND THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.

ITEM NUMBER 17 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FOUR TO IDZ TWO WITH USES PERMITTED IN C ONE LIGHT COMMERCIAL DISTRICT MEDICAL CLINIC PHYSICIAN AND OR DENTIST PARTY HOUSE RECEPTION HALL MEETING FACILITIES AND 75 DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.

LOCATED AT 3 2 2 3 WEST POPLAR STREET AND 1 4 2 5 NORTHWEST 24TH STREET.

79 NOTICES WERE SENT.

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TWO RECEIVED IN FAVOR.

ZERO OPPOSED WEST END HOPE IN ACTION NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR.

PROSPECT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION GAVE NO RESPONSE OUTSIDE 200 FEET WE RECEIVED SIX IN FAVOR.

ITEM NUMBER 20 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM OH TWO TO R FIVE WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.

LOCATED AT 1742 BASSEY ROAD AND 2 55 VENICE STREET.

31 NOTICES WERE SENT.

ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR.

ZERO OPPOSED.

NORTH CENTRAL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM THE SAN ANTONIO TEXAS DISTRICT ONE RESIDENCE ASSOCIATION AND THAT UM, OH, ITEM NUMBER 21 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C3 TO MF 18 WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.

GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 9,000 BLOCK OF KULA ROAD.

24 NOTICES WERE SENT.

ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR IS ZERO OPPOSED AND THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND WE DO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THOSE ITEMS. RIGHT.

DO WE HAVE COMBO OF VOICEMAILS AND SPEAKERS OR YES SIR.

I CAN GET THAT STARTED FOR YOU.

OKAY.

SO, UM, LET'S START WITH ITEM NUMBER SIX.

THERE'S A SPEAKER AND THAT SPEAKER IS DENNIS IS ISAAC, I THINK, OR ISABELLE.

THERE YOU GO.

COME ON UP SIR.

YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

THERE YOU GO.

DENNIS ISBELL, PASTOR OF GRACE BAPTIST TEMPLE, 91 0 3 WACH ROAD.

UH, AGAIN, JUST STATING THAT OUR CHURCH IS A HUNDRED PERCENT BEHIND THIS, UH, UH, PORTION OF OUR PROPERTY BEING SOLD.

BELIEVING IT TO BE A BENEFIT NOT ONLY TO OUR CHURCH, BUT ALSO TO UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, AS WELL.

SO WE'RE JUST EXCITED ABOUT WHAT'S ABOUT TO TAKE PLACE AND LOOKING FORWARD, UH, TO THAT OPPORTUNITY.

SO THANK YOU.

YOU ALRIGHT.

THE NEXT PERSON WE HAVE IS FOR ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, MS. KATHY WATSON.

HI, MY NAME IS KATHY WATSON AND I'M HERE ABOUT, WELL, DO Y'ALL SEE THE MAP? DOES EVERYBODY SEE THE MAP? OKAY, UM, ON THIS PARTICULAR MAP, OUR PROPERTY IS THAT LITTLE BITTY SPOT RIGHT HERE IN THE MIDDLE AND THEY WANNA COME ALONG AND WRAP THAT ENTIRE PROPERTY AND TURN IT INTO CITY PROPERTY.

AND WE'RE GONNA STAY THE COUNTY WITH NO BENEFITS, NOTHING IS GONNA BENEFIT OUR PROPERTY AND WE TOTALLY OPPOSE THIS BECAUSE IF THIS DEVELOPMENT HAPPENS THE WAY THEY WANT IT TO, WE'RE GONNA BE SUBJECTED TO NOISE ANIMALS JUST, IT'S GONNA BE NONGO NONSTOP FOR 15 YEARS.

THEY'RE TELLING US, WILL YOU TELL ME HOW YOU WOULD WANNA LIVE AROUND THAT? SO, NO, WE DON'T AGREE WITH THAT.

SO WE OPPOSE IT WITH ALL THE OTHER 13 PEOPLE THAT HAVE OPPOSED IT AS WELL.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

THE NEXT ITEMS WE HAVE ARE VOICEMAILS FOR ITEM 14 AND I'LL GO BACK TO ITEM NUMBER 12 IN JUST A SECOND NOON.

I'M CALLING REGARDING CASE NUMBER 1 0 7 0 0 2 7 REGARDING 1210 SOUTH ALAMO.

UH, MY NAME IS JIM BAILEY AND MY ADDRESS IS ONE 15 WIX STREET, WHICH IS NEXT DOOR TO THE APPLICANT'S AND ONE LOT OVER FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

I STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS REZONING REQUEST THOUGH THE HISTORIC MAIN HOUSE FACING ALAMO IS CURRENTLY ZONED FOR AND USED AS OFFICES.

A REAR ACCESS, EXCUSE ME, REAR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS ARE UBIQUITOUS THROUGHOUT KING WILLIAM.

UH, ONE WOULD SIT VERY NICELY IN THE BACKYARD THERE AND I WILL BE VERY HAPPY TO SEE THIS PROPERTY CONVERT AT LEAST PARTIALLY BACK TO RESIDENTIAL EASE AND LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING A NEW NEIGHBOR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SORRY JUST TO REMOVE ANY CONFUSION THAT ITEM FOR NUMBER 11, SO, BUT IT'S A SUPPORT NOW.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND PLAY THE OTHER TWO FOR 16 PLEASE.

1614.

1414.

I APOLOGIZE ELLA GARZA, I AM PRESIDENT OF GARDENDALE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION REGARDING ZONING CASE NUMBER Z 20 24 1 0 7 0 0 2 3 6.

AFTER SPEAKING WITH THE OWNER ABOUT THE PROPOSED ZONING REQUEST FOR ONE 40 AND 1 54 FREDERICKSBURG ROAD, WE ARE IN FAVOR OF THE ZONING REQUEST.

PER OUR DISCUSSION WITH THE OWNER, THE PROPOSED PROJECT WILL NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE CURRENT RESIDENCE.

THE OWNER MENTIONED HAVING SPOKE WITH COMMUNITY RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES IN THE AREA ABOUT THE PROJECT.

HE MENTIONED THE FINANCES ARE IN PLACE TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT

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AND HE ALSO CONFIRMED THAT THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT WILL BE ON FREDERICKSBURG ROAD, AWAY FROM COMMUNITY HOME PER THE OWNER SAFETY EFFORTS WERE CONSIDERED, UH, FOR THE PROJECT AND THE IMPACTED COMMUNITY RESIDENTS.

THANK YOU.

MY NAME IS RAFAEL GARZA.

I AM VICE PRESIDENT OF GARDENDALE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION REGARDING ZONING CASE NUMBER Z DASH 2024 DASH 1 0 7 0 2 3 6.

AFTER SPEAKING WITH THE OWNER ABOUT THE PROPOSED ZONING REQUEST FOR ONE 40 AND 1 54 BURG ROAD, WE ARE IN FAVOR OF THE ZONING REQUEST.

THANK YOU.

AND GOING BACK TO ITEM NUMBER 12, WE HAVE A SPEAKER, SUKO RAMOS.

I BELIEVE SHE HAS A PRESENTATION.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS MITSUKO RAMOS WITH GOVERNMENT RELATIONS GROUP OF TEXAS AT 10 VENICE COURT.

I REPRESENT A CLIENT WHO OWNS A PROPERTY A TWO ACRE TRACT NORTH JUST NORTH OF, UM, ONE OF THE TWO LOTS THAT ARE SUBJECT TO THIS ZONING FOR ITEM NUMBER 12.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

UM, BEFORE I BEGIN, I JUST WANTED TO STATE THAT IN MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION THIS ITEM SHOULD NOT BE APPROVED TODAY.

UH, JUST SIMPLY ALL JUST BASED ON THE FACT THAT THE UM, LEGAL DESCRIPTION IS INCORRECT.

UM, MY CLIENT WAS NOT AWARE OF THE LOCATION OF THIS PROPERTY UNTIL, YOU KNOW, HE CONTACTED ME AND RETAINED MY SERVICES JUST A FEW DAYS AGO BECAUSE THE ADDRESS STATES 2 2 1 2 ROGERS ROAD WHEN IN FACT IT'S 2 1 1 2 ROGERS ROAD.

SO HE WAS CONFUSED AS TO EXACTLY WHERE THE PROPERTY IS AND ONLY REALIZING IT WAS ABUTTING HIS LOT UNTIL JUST A COUPLE DAYS AGO.

UM, MY CLIENT IS A PEDIATRIC DENTIST AND HE, UM, IS PLANNING ON DEVELOPING THIS TWO ACRE TRACT INTO A PEDIATRIC DENTIST STRUCTURE AND, UH, HE HAS CONTACTED THROUGH ME, UM, THE APPLICANT TO REQUEST CONCESSIONS FOR THIS REZONING TO PROTECT HIS PROPERTY FROM FUTURE USES THAT WOULD BE PERMITTED IN ED.

UM, PLEASE NOTE THAT THE CURRENT ZONING OF C3, UM, IS INCLUDED IN THE PERMITTED USES IN ED, BUT THERE ARE OTHER ZONINGS THAT ARE, UM, ZONING DESIGNATIONS THAT ARE ALSO PERMITTED, INCLUDING MULTIFAMILY.

SO HIS CONCERN, UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

HIS CONCERN IS THAT, UM, HE WANTS TO PROTECT THE SMALLER LOT THAT'S SUBJECT TO THE ZONING FROM FUTURE USES IN CASE HYATT DECIDES TO SELL IT.

ONE OF THE THINGS HE NOTICED IS THAT THERE IS A LOT LINE THAT IS STILL EXISTS THAT, UM, MAY LEADS HIM TO BELIEVE THAT THEY MIGHT WANNA SELL THE PROPERTY.

UM, HE WAS NOT CONTACTED REGARDING THIS ACTUAL ZONING CASE, BUT HE WAS CONTACTED A FEW MONTHS AGO BY A HYATT REPRESENTATIVE TO OFFER, UH, PURCHASING HIS PARCEL, WHICH HE DECLINED, UM, AS PART OF A LARGER DEVELOPMENT.

NOW, HYATT HAS NOT, UM, DISCLOSED ITS FUTURE USES, SO IT LEADS MY CLIENT TO BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, THAT ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN INCLUDING SALE OF THE LOT.

SO HE HAS SUGGESTED, UH, RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS THAT WOULD BE IMPOSED ON HIS PROPERTY AS WELL AS THE HYATT PROPERTY TO PROTECT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE SURROUNDING AREAS.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

IN ADDITION, THE EXISTING USE THAT'S LOCATED JUST EAST OF HIS LOT, UM, IS A GOLF COURSE AND HE FREQUENTLY SEES GOLF BALLS ON HIS, ON HIS PROPERTY.

SO HE IS CONCERNED OF INJURY THAT MIGHT OCCUR TO HIS PEDIATRIC PATIENTS ONCE HE DEVELOPS HIS LOT.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UM, THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, SNIPPETS THAT I, YOU KNOW, CUT AND PAST IT ON THERE JUST TO SHOW THAT IT IS A SERIOUS CONCERN FOR PEOPLE TO BE INJURED, UH, BY FLYING GOLF BALLS.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

AND SO WE ARE REQUESTING THAT YOU EITHER DE DENISE, IF NOT BASED ON THE, UM, GROUNDS THAT I ESTABLISHED IN MY POWERPOINT, BUT IF ANYTHING, BECAUSE THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION IS INCORRECT IN THE, IN THE, UM, NOTICES.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

AND WAS OKAY.

AND THEN, UM, THE OTHER, WE HAVE A VOICEMAIL FOR NUMBER

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17 RODRIGUEZ.

I LIVE ON DOPES DRIVE 1 62.

I ALSO HAVE ANOTHER HOUSE IN THE CORNER, 1 38.

AND, UM, I DON'T, I'M AGAINST THE, UH, BUILDING BECAUSE, UM, AGAIN, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS, IS UH, IT'S A RESIDENTIAL AREA AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE CONSIDERING BUILDING, UH, FOR ELDERLY PEOPLE, WHICH IS GOOD.

BUT WITH THAT HAPPENS, IT'S NORMALLY THEY HAVE OTHER YOUNG KIDS THAT MOVE IN AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

FAMILY BUILDINGS IS FINE.

ALSO CONCERNED WITH THE FACT THAT, UM, THAT UH, THERE'S AN EASE WAY THERE, UM, ON THE BACK OF OUR HOUSES, WHICH WE WILL NOT HAVE ACCESS TO, UH, TO PUT THINGS IN OUR BACKYARDS AS LONG AS THEY CAN LEAVE A GIANT EASE WAY LIKE IT SHOULD BE THERE.

I KNOW THEY CLOSED ONE END OF IT, BUT WE STILL GO THROUGH THE BACKYARD TO GET TO OUR, OUR OUR HOUSES.

UM, THE HOUSES THERE ARE ESTABLISHED, THEY'VE BEEN THERE A LONG TIME AND, UH, I'M, I'M ALL FOR, FOR GROWING AND ALL, BUT I'M ALSO FOR PRESERVING THE INTEGRITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, MY CONCERN AGAIN BEING THE EASE WAY AND CHANGING THE, THE TIMING OF THE, OF THE PEOPLE THERE.

I'VE BEEN A LONG TIME RESIDENT SINCE THE 1960S.

UH, WE HAVE SIX HOUSES ON THAT BLOCK, OUR FAMILY DOES.

AND I'M VOICING THE OPINIONS OF OUR FAMILY.

MY NUMBER IS TWO TEN THREE FOUR SEVEN NINE EIGHT SIX NINE.

I'VE SPOKEN TO THEM ABOUT THAT AND THEY'VE BEEN KIND OF VAGUE ON THEIR PLANS.

IT'D BE POSSIBLE FOR US TO ATTEND OTHER MEETINGS TO FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT AND THEIR INTENTIONS AND IF SO, WELL THEN I'D LOVE TO ATTEND THOSE.

UM, IF THEY CAN GET BACK WITH ME AGAIN, YOU HAVE MY PHONE NUMBER AND LET ME KNOW WHEN THEIR NEXT MEETING IS GOING TO BE.

I WOULD LOVE TO ATTEND AS WELL.

THANK YOU.

MY NAME IS RODRIGUEZ, PLEASE GIVE ME A CALL BACK.

ALL RIGHT.

AND ONE LAST SPEAKER FOR ITEM NUMBER 20 IS JULIAN LUCERO.

HELLO, I AM, UH, JULIAN LUCERO AND I'M HERE FOR 1742 BASSEY ROAD AND 2 55 VENICE.

UH, I'M JUST HERE REPRESENTING MY CLIENT.

UH, WE JUST WOULD LIKE TO CONVERT OR REZONE THE, UH, COMMERCIAL LAND TO RESIDENTIAL AND WE FEEL THAT IT WOULD BE A GOOD FIT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT'S IT.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

AND THEN JUST ONE CLARIFICATION, GOING BACK TO ITEM NUMBER 12, UH, WE HAVE VERIFIED, WE RECEIVED, SIGNED AND SEALED, UH, FIELD NOTES ON THAT PROJECT.

AND SO THOSE ARE UH, ACTUAL FIELD NOTES, UH, FOR THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE IN QUESTION THAT ARE ACCURATE AS FAR AS WE KNOW.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

AND IS THAT THE END OF PUBLIC COMMENT ON FOR THESE ITEMS? YES SIR.

THAT'S ALL.

ALRIGHT.

UM, DID ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS WISH TO PULL ANY OF THE ITEMS FROM THE COMBINED AGENDA? COMMISSIONER HUEY LOOKING AT YOU OR NO? OKAY.

I'M LOOKING OVER HERE.

SEEING NONE EITHER.

ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

WELL WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA, MR. CHAIR.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. NUMBER FOUR.

NUMBER SIX WITH AMENDED ACREAGE IS READ INTO THE RECORD NUMBER 8 10 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 17, 20 AND 21.

I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.

ALRIGHT.

THERE IS, DID YOU SAY 11? I BELIEVE SO.

I THINK SHE SAID 11.

I THOUGHT I HEARD 11.

THANK YOU.

I'M SORRY, I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM IF NOT, IT WAS INTENDED TO BE INCLUDED.

ALRIGHT, SO THERE IS A MOTION TO APPROVE, UM, ITEMS 4, 6, 8, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 17, 20, AND 21.

UM, SO IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION LOOKING, OH, SORRY.

UM, BECAUSE COMMISSIONER ORTIZ FROM DISTRICT EIGHT IS NOT HERE.

I HAVE NOT, UH, I HAD SOME RESERVATIONS ABOUT NUMBER SIX AND I WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE, UH, THAT WE HAVE NOTED THE COUNTS.

AND THE SPEAKER WHO CAME IN, I WOULD STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO REACH OUT TO THE DISTRICT EIGHT COUNCIL OFFICE FOR ADDITIONAL SUPPORT BEFORE THIS GOES TO CITY COUNCIL.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WATSON.

SO, UH, THE MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER WATSON

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WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARTOS.

UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? LOOKING LEFT, SEEING NONE.

LOOKING RIGHT, SEEING NONE.

UH, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.

MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL.

COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES.

COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES.

COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES.

COMMISSIONER NOOSA? YES.

COMMISSIONER REYES? YES.

COMMISSIONER BUSANTE.

AYE.

COMMISSIONER HUEY AYE.

COMMISSIONER WHITSETT? YES.

COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES.

CHAIR SIPES? YES.

MOTION CARRIES.

SIX WITH AMENDED ACREAGE.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU WERE HERE FOR ANY OF THOSE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, THOSE ITEMS WILL NOW BE PROCEEDING ON TO CITY COUNCIL.

SO YOU ARE FREE TO ENJOY THE REST OF THE COOL DAY OUTSIDE AND IF YOU HAVE, IT IS ELECTION DAY, SO IF YOU HAVE NOT VOTED, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO, UM, PARTICIPATE IN THIS DAY.

AND I HAD A LOT OF OTHER THINGS TO SAY ABOUT IT, BUT I WON'T 'CAUSE WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE CONTINUANCE AGENDA IN JUST A SECOND.

JUST BE PATIENT WITH THE ELECTION WORKERS IF THERE'S A LINE.

ALL RIGHT.

IF WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE CONTINUANCE AGENDA.

WE HAVE TWO ITEMS REQUESTING A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE TO THE NOVEMBER 19TH MEETING ITEMS NUMBER FIVE AND 16.

AND WE DO NOT HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THOSE TWO ITEMS. ALRIGHT, WELL I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE CONTINUANCE AGENDA.

MR. CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE FOLLOWING ITEMS TO THE NOVEMBER 19TH HEARING ITEMS NUMBER FIVE AND NUMBER 16.

AND IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT.

ALRIGHT.

THERE IS A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WATSON TO CONTINUE ITEMS FIVE AND 16 TO THE NOVEMBER 19TH MEETING WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARDOS.

UM, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS.

LOOKING LEFT.

SEEING NONE.

LOOKING RIGHT.

SEEING NONE.

ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES.

ALRIGHT.

YES.

COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES.

COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES.

COMMISSIONER NOOSA? YES.

COMMISSIONER REYES? YES.

COMMISSIONER BUSANTE.

AYE.

COMMISSIONER HUEY AYE.

COMMISSIONER WISA? YES.

COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES.

CHAIR SIPES? YES.

MOTION CARRIES.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

WE WILL SEE Y'ALL IN, WHAT IS THAT, TWO WEEKS? IT'S ALREADY NOVEMBER.

SORRY.

ALRIGHT.

UM, IF WE COULD MOVE ON TO OUR FIRST ITEM ON THE INDIVIDUAL HEARING.

I BELIEVE ITEM NUMBER TWO IS UP.

IF WE COULD HAVE STAFF'S REPORT PLEASE.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

ALEXA RATANA ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

ITEM NUMBER TWO IS LOCATED AT 5 5 5 HISTORIC OLD US HIGHWAY 90 GOING FROM C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT C TWO AND A COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT AND C TWO AND A CD, COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR MOTOR VEHICLE CELLS TO C TWO CD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR OVERSIZED VEHICLE STORAGE.

THERE WERE 37 NOTICES SENT OUT.

SIX IN FAVOR TO OPPOSED WITHIN 200 FEET.

LOS DINA'S NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR.

EIGHT IN FAVOR AND ONE OPPOSED OUTSIDE THE 200 FEET.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ZONE C TWO, COMMERCIAL DISTRICT C TWO AND A COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC CELLS DISTRICT AND C TWO.

AND A CD COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC CELLS DISTRICT.

WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR MOTOR VEHICLE CELLS, IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THE SURROUNDING AREA GIVEN THE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY ABUTTING THE PROPERTY IN THE REAR INSIDE THE PROPOSED C TWO CD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR OVERSIZED VEHICLE STORAGE IS NOT APPROPRIATE.

COMMON LAND USE PRINCIPLES RECOMMEND THAT HIGH DENSITY LAND USES ARE SEPARATED BY LOWER INTENSE USES TO BUFFER AND REDUCE THE IMPACT ON RESIDENTIAL USES THAT ARE NEARBY.

OVERSIZED VEHICLE USES PERMITTED BY WRIGHT AND L LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND I ONE GENERAL INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS, WHICH ARE TYPICALLY REMOVED FROM RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND COMMERCIAL USES, WHICH ACCOMMODATE HIGH DENSITY OF PEOPLE AND COMMERCE STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANTS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND AS I KNOW, AMEND THEIR REQUEST AND ACREAGE.

ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT PLEASE.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS ALEJANDRO RAMIRO BRAVO.

UM, I'M THE ONE THAT HAS THE PROPERTY TRYING TO STAY IN BUSINESS WITH THE, WITH THE, UH, BOXES OF THE TRAILERS USING IT, USING A AS STORAGE.

I THINK I ALREADY

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SHOW YOU A COUPLE OF PICTURES.

SO I USE THEM TO SQUEEZE MY, UH, APPLIANCES AND FURNITURE THAT I BUY AT AUCTIONS AND STUFF LIKE THAT SO I CAN, UH, RESTOCK MY STORE.

AND I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR, FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

I MEAN, ACTUALLY MORE THAN SEVEN YEARS.

SO I'VE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM 'CAUSE I NEVER KNEW THAT I WAS IN VIOLATION OF THE STUFF, BUT I ALREADY BOUGHT THE EQUIPMENT AND, AND I HAVE IT ALREADY SO IT'LL BE A LITTLE BIT TOO MUCH OF A MOVEMENT TO, TO REMOVE THEM.

AND THEN I, I WON'T BE ABLE TO KEEP MY STORE.

AND BESIDES, UH, I THINK I'M DOING A GOOD JOB KEEPING IT CLEAN AND STUFF.

AND THEN, UH, TRYING TO GET, UM, THE NEIGHBOR, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH, UH, WITHOUT THE HOMELESS PEOPLE TRYING TO SLEEP UNDER THE THINGS AND, AND STUFF LIKE THAT, WHICH IS PRETTY COMMON.

AND I TRY TO PAINT MYSELF THE GRAFFITI AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR, FOR ME TO STAY IN BUSINESS IF, UH, 'CAUSE IF I HAVE TO REMOVE 'EM, I HAVE TO CLOSE IT.

SO THAT'S IT.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

AND, AND FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND FROM STAFF, YOU WERE GOING TO, UH, CHANGE THE ACREAGE IN A, IN A YEAH.

IT HAS TO BE.

UH, BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT, THEY, THEY WERE VERY SPECIFIC THAT MAKE SURE THEY PUT THE NA SIGNALS OR WHATEVER THAT CORRECT.

HE'S WANTING TO ADD THE NA IN THE ACREAGE THAT HE IS WANTING TO AMEND TO IS JUST THE AREA THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IN GRAY.

RIGHT.

SO THE, THE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IS TO THE EAST, THAT IS THE ONLY AREA THAT WILL BE PART OF THIS REZONING.

OKAY.

AND I HAVE NO INTENTIONS OF, UH, CHANGING OR PUTTING A SHOP OR PUTTING A TRUCK STOP OR A PIT STOP OR WHATEVER THEY CALL IT.

UH, IT'S GONNA STAY THERE LIKE THAT.

I CLOSE AT SIX O'CLOCK, GO HOME AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

AND THAT'S IT.

THERE'S NO MOVEMENT AFTER THAT, AFTER HOURS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND JUST TO, SORRY, I WANTED TO CLARIFY.

OKAY.

IT IS 0.5 ACRES OUT OF NCB 8 2 3 7.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

AND DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? WE DO.

WE HAVE A COUPLE SPEAKERS.

UM, FIRST MR. GREG BROCK HOUSE AND THEN HE IS TO BE FOLLOWED BY MR. RAY RODRIGUEZ.

UM, MR. RODRIGUEZ WILL, UH, AGREE TO SEAT HIS TIE TO ME.

SHOULD I EXCEED MY LIMIT.

MY NAME IS GREG BROCK HOUSE.

UH, I WAS, UH, HONORED TO SERVE AS THE DISTRICT SIX CITY COUNCIL MEMBER.

AND FULL DISCLOSURE, UH, THE COUNCIL OFFICE IS AWARE OF MY PRESENCE TODAY, JUST IN CASE THERE'S ANYBODY UNCOMFORTABLE THAT I'M DOING SOMETHING WITHOUT THE COUNCILMAN BEING AWARE.

SHE'S FULLY AWARE OF MY SUPPORT, UH, FROM MR. BRAVO WHO CAME TO ME, UH, AFTER A LOT, A PRETTY LENGTHY RELATIONSHIP.

WE'VE KNOWN EACH OTHER FOR NEARLY 10 YEARS.

HE'S ALWAYS BEEN AN OUTSTANDING, UH, BUSINESS OWNER ALONG OLD HIGHWAY 90.

UH, SO THERE'S A FEW KEY POINTS I WANNA MAKE SURE WE HIT.

NUMBER ONE IS, IT'S IT'S SOLID WHEN YOU HAVE, IT'S A COUNCIL MEMBER WHEN YOU CAN LOOK AT IT AND SEE THAT YOU HAVE FULL NEIGHBORHOOD SUPPORT.

LOS SARDINAS IS AN ACTIVE AND ENGAGED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

THEY DON'T PLAY ANY GAMES WHEN IT COMES TO PROTECTING THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THEY ARE HONORED TO HAVE MR. BRAVO AS A SUPPORTIVE BUSINESS.

SECONDARILY, HE'S BEEN IN OPERATION LIKE THIS FOR OVER EIGHT YEARS, ALMOST 10 YEARS ACTUALLY.

SO WE HAVE A DUE RESPECT TO STAFF.

AND THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT WHEN WE WANT BUILD COMMUNITIES, RIGHT? WE CAN'T DO IT AT THE EXPENSE OF OUR SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS.

AND IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IF HE'S BEEN DOING THIS FOR 10 YEARS, STAFF IS ABSOLUTELY FOLLOWING THE RULES.

BUT SOMETIMES THOSE RULES HAVE EXCEPTIONS.

AND THOSE EXCEPTIONS ARE IMPORTANT TO ENSURE THAT A BUSINESS OWNER LIKE MR. BRAVO CAN CONTINUE TO OPERATE AND PROVIDE FOR HIS FAMILY AND THE LOCAL COMMUNITY OF WHICH HE HAS DONE UP AND DOWN THAT STREET OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.

I CAN VOUCH FOR IT, NUMBER ONE, BECAUSE I WAS HIS COUNCIL MEMBER AND I WORKED WITH HIM AND HAD POSITIVE FEEDBACK WITH HIM FROM THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OVER THE YEARS.

SECONDARILY, WE ALSO WANNA REMEMBER THAT THESE TYPES OF CONCESSIONS HE'S MAKING, NUMBER ONE TO GO NON-ALCOHOLIC IS REQUESTED BY THE NEIGHBORS ASSOCIATION AND HE'S GONNA CLEAN UP THAT SPACE AND WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE THAT HE, FROM THIS POINT GOING FORWARD, ALWAYS KEEPS IT LOOKING GOOD.

THERE ARE A COUPLE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE OPPOSED TO IT.

ABSOLUTELY.

BUT ON THE WHOLE, WHEN YOU SEE THIS LEVEL OF SUPPORT, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY SOLID FOR ANY COUNCIL OFFICE TO SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE'RE GONNA GET BEHIND THIS IF IT PRESENTS ANY PROBLEMS GOING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE.

MR. BRAVO HAS ALWAYS SHOWN HIMSELF TO ANSWER QUICKLY.

HE SHOWS UP AND HE LISTENS AND HE FOLLOWS THROUGH ON EVERYTHING HE POSSIBLY CAN.

SO, AND I'LL LEAVE YOU WITH THIS THOUGHT ABOUT OLD HIGHWAY 90 AND JUST ZONING IN GENERAL.

IT'S OBVIOUSLY THE NUMBER ONE TOOL COUNCIL PERSON HAS.

AND AND WHEN I LOOK AT IT, I DON'T LIVE ON OLD HIGHWAY 90.

SO WHILE IT MAY LOOK LIKE SOMETHING I DON'T NECESSARILY AGREE WITH, IT'S PRETTY TYPICAL FOR THAT AREA.

YES, WE WANT TO BUILD OLD HIGHWAY 90.

IT WAS AN IMPORTANT ITEM FOR ME WHEN I WAS ON THE COUNCIL.

HOWEVER, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO IT AT THE EXPENSE OF SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, RIGHT? IT'S NOT A SIX MONTH BUSINESS.

THIS IS A 10 YEAR BUSINESS THAT HAS BEEN OPERATING EFFICIENTLY.

SO WHAT I'M GONNA ASK IS THAT WE REMEMBER WHAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD LOOKS LIKE.

THE FACT THAT THE ASSOCIATION IS IN COMPLETE APPROVAL.

THE COUNCIL OFFICE HAS YET TO RENDER THEIR OP, THEIR, THEIR OPPOSITION OR SUPPORT, BUT THEY'RE AWARE OF MY PRESENCE HERE TODAY.

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AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THE VALIDITY OF MR. BRAVO'S BUSINESS AND HE STAY IN BUSINESS 'CAUSE HE WORKS HARD AND HE TAKES CARE OF PEOPLE AND HE DOES THE JOB.

UH, AND AFTER THAT, I MEAN, I JUST LOOK AT WHAT, WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP HIM BE SUCCESSFUL? UH, AND WE'D HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THOSE THINGS AS WE GO FORWARD.

AND I'VE ALWAYS FOUND HIM TO BE AN OUTSTANDING, UH, FRIEND, OPERATOR, AND A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

AND THAT'S IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, MR. BRAVO, DID YOU WANT TO ADD ON TO THAT? I, UM, ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS, IS IS THAT I'M, I'M GONNA RELY ON YOU GUYS TO, TO STAY IN BUSINESS AND I WILL REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

BELIEVE ME THAT, THAT, UM, I'M, I'M DOING THE BEST I CAN AND I'LL DO THE WHOLE, I'LL, I'LL DO THE WHOLE NINE YARDS, YOU KNOW, I'LL, I'LL GO THE WHOLE NINE YARDS TO KEEP IT IN IN SHAPE.

ALRIGHT, THAT'S IT.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HUEY, THIS IS YOUR CASE.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR, YOU FOR QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

UH, I JUST WANNA START BY THANKING THE STAFF, THE APPLICANT AND, UH, MR. BRAVO AND THE, UH, THE LOS S, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION FOR PART FOR PARTICIPATING IN THIS CASE.

YOU KNOW, UM, I'VE BEEN ON THE ZONING COMMISSION FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS NOW, AND ON THIS CASE, WE ACTUALLY HAD A FIELD TRIP WITH OUR STAFF OUT THERE TO ACTUALLY SEE FOR OURSELVES WHY THIS PARTICULAR CASE IS DIFFERENT THAN MOST OF THE CASES WE SEE ABOUT OVERSIZED VEHICLE STORAGE.

SO, AGAIN, I WANNA THANK YOU LADIES FOR COMING OUT IN A HOT, HOT DAY THAT WE SPENT OUT THERE.

BUT AGAIN, UH, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT, UH, COMPLICATED CASES AND THIS IS THE ONE I, WHEN I FIRST LOOKED AT IT, IT WAS LIKE, MAN, IT WAS AN EASY CASE.

BUT AS I GOT INTO IT AND ACTUALLY TALKED TO MR. BRAVO WAS LIKE, WOW, THIS IS NOT WHAT WAS, WHAT WAS, YOU KNOW, ON PAPER, BECAUSE THIS MAN HAS BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR 10 YEARS AND THE USE OF HIS OVERSIZED STORAGE OR VEHICLES ARE NOT TYPICAL OF WHAT YOU WOULD SEE, YOU KNOW, AS WE SEE WITH RVS AND, YOU KNOW, DUMP TRUCKS AND ALL THAT, THAT WE TYPICALLY DEAL WITH.

SO AGAIN, UH, I WANT TO THANK THE STAFF, MR. BRAVO AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION FOR REALLY SPENDING THE TIME TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS INVOLVED IN THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST.

SO, AND I'M GONNA BE SUPPORTING THE APPROVAL, BUT I WANNA OPEN IT UP TO MY FELLOW, FELLOW COMMISSIONERS FOR THEIR COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

UH, QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT? NONE.

COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.

NONE.

I HAVE NO QUESTIONS.

SO, BACK TO YOU, COMMISSIONER HUEY FOR A MOTION.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

AT THIS TIME I MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

THERE'S A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER HUEY WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON.

DISCUSSION COMMERS ON MY RIGHT.

NONE COMMERS ON MY LEFT.

NONE.

I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU SAID.

COMMISSIONER HUEY, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN IN MY DISTRICT AS WELL, YOU KNOW, OVER OVERSIZED VEHICLE STORAGE.

AND, AND WHEN YOU, AND WHEN YOU FIRST LOOK AT IT, YOU'RE LIKE, OH, YES, I UNDER THIS, THIS IS A A NO WAY.

BUT THEN ONCE YOU REALLY GET INTO THE, THE PARTICULARS OF A CASE, THEY'RE OFTENTIMES DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU SEE WRITTEN.

SO MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL.

ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER HUEY AYE.

COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES.

COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES.

COMMISSIONER OSA AYE.

COMMISSIONER REYES? YES.

COMMISSIONER BUSANTE.

AYE.

COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES.

COMMISSIONER WIT? YES.

COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES.

CHAIR SIPES? YES.

MOTION CARRIES.

AND THAT IS APPROVAL FOR THE AMENDED AND AMENDED ACREAGE.

THAT IS TRUE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

I DIDN'T EVEN, I DIDN'T CATCH THAT .

ALRIGHT, UH, MOVING ON.

I BELIEVE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS NEXT.

YOU COULD HAVE STAFF'S REPORT PLEASE.

THANK YOU, SHARKS.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

BRONTE FRE ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

NUMBER SEVEN IS GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 6,000 BLOCK OF CAMP BOLUS ROAD GOING FROM R 20, R SIX NC AND C ONE TO MF 18.

ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.

THERE WERE 26 NOTICES SENT.

THERE WERE TWO IN FAVOR WITHIN 200 FEET.

UM, FOUR OPPOSED WITHIN 200 FEET.

ONE IN FAVOR OUTSIDE OF 200 FEET AND 45 OPPOSED OUTSIDE OF 200 FEET.

THERE IS

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NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.

STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.

THE EXISTING R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT R 20 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT, NC NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, AND C ONE LIKE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT ARE APPROPRIATE ZONINGS FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.

THE PROPOSED MF 18 LIMITED DENSITY MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT IS ALSO INAPPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.

THEIR PROPOSED MF 18 WOULD PROVIDE A BUFFER BETWEEN THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES TO THE NORTH FROM THE COMMERCIAL USES TO THIS HOUSE.

INTRODUCING MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING ALSO PROVIDES A WIDER RANGE OF HOUSING VARIETY TO THE AREA.

THE LAND USE ALSO SUPPORTS THIS STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, WHICH ENCOURAGES ADDITIONAL HOUSING FOR THE GROWING SAN ANTONIO POPULATION AT ALL INCOME LEVELS.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

UH, MR. CHAIR COMMISSIONERS CAROLYN MCDONALD WITH BROWN AND MCDONALD.

100 NORTHEAST LOOP FOUR 10 HERE ON BEHALF OF THE, UH, DEVELOPER.

AS STAFF INDICATED, THIS IS A DISTRICT EIGHT CASE.

WE ARE REQUESTING MULTI-FAMILY, UH, MF 18 FROM THE CURRENT MIXTURE OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES.

UM, THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT CAMP BULLIS ROAD AND I 10, UM, AND THE REZONING WILL ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPER TO BUILD THE BEAUTIFUL, UH, PRODUCT THAT'S HERE ON YOUR SCREEN.

OH, UH, AGAIN, RIGHT OFF OF I 10.

WE ARE SOUTH OF THE DOMINION AND NORTH OF THE RIM.

CAMP BULLIS IS ON THE WEST.

UH, THE DEVELOPER IS FULTON DEVELOPMENT.

THEY ARE BUILDING THE BIRDSONG PRODUCT HERE IN SAN ANTONIO IN, UH, BEAR COUNTY.

THEY HAVE THREE EXISTING DEVELOPMENTS HERE.

ONE IS ALSO IN DISTRICT EIGHT.

IT'S THE BIRDSONG AT SONOMA RANCH.

UM, AND THOSE ARE ALL, ALL LOCATED HERE ON YOUR SCREEN.

SO THE PRODUCT, WHILE WE ARE REQUESTING MULTIFAMILY, UH, THIS ALLOWS THEM TO, UM, PLA AS ONE LOT AND THEN, UH, PROVIDE FOR THE, THE RENTAL, UH, UNITS THAT ARE SHOWN BEFORE YOU.

AND, UH, THAT INCLUDES THE AMENITY CENTER RENTAL SPACE, UH, POOL AND PARK WITH THE DEVELOPMENT.

THERE'S ONSITE MAINTENANCE, SECURITY, UH, TREES, LANDSCAPING, WALKABILITY, UH, AND THAT'S ALL KEY FOCUSES AND ALL OF THEIR DEVELOPMENTS.

HERE'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE AMENITIES.

SO, SO ONTO THE ZONING.

UM, HERE IS AN AERIAL MAP.

YOU CAN SEE HERE THE LOCATION IS NEAR, UH, MANY MAJOR EMPLOYERS.

THE RIM, UTSA VALERO, UM, AND IT HAS DIRECT ACCESS ONTO I 10.

SO HERE, UH, IS A BREAKDOWN OF SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS AND, UH, VARIOUS ZONING DISTRICTS.

WE DO HAVE A COUNTY PARK NEAR US.

THERE IS TMI, UM, THERE.

AND THEN THERE IS A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL AS WELL AS A SCHOOL AND SOME COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES NEAR US.

OUR PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN, UH, IS BEFORE YOU.

AND YOU CAN SEE HERE THE CONCEPT.

IT IS NOT THE TRADITIONAL MULTIFAMILY, IT, IT'S MORE OF A TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT.

AND WHILE WE'RE REQUESTING THE MF 18 ZONING DISTRICT, UM, THE DENSITY IS AT ABOUT 14 UNITS PER ACRE WITH A TOTAL OF 350 PROPOSED UNITS.

UM, YOU CAN SEE ON THE WEST SIDE, WE ARE FOCUSING OUR, THE AMENITY CENTER AND THE CLUBHOUSE AND POOL NEXT TO THE COMMERCIAL BUSINESS.

UM, NEXT TO US DISSERVICE, SORT OF A BUFFER BETWEEN SOME OF THE RESIDENTIAL USES OUR, OUR RESIDENTIAL, UH, HOMES.

AND THEN, UH, IT WILL BE COMPLETELY FENCED IN, UM, AROUND THE SITE.

UM, JUST FOR INFORMATION, UM, THIS, THIS PROJECT WILL BRING UNIQUE HOUSING TO THE AREA THAT HAS THE HIGHEST MEDIUM HOME VALUE, ONE OF THE HIGHEST MEDIUM HOME VALUES IN THE CITY.

UM, SO A LOT, LOT OF THE CONCERNS WE'VE HEARD, UM, SO FAR IS ABOUT TRAFFIC.

AND WE WERE BEFORE YOU ON OCTOBER 15TH, UM, AND REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE, TODAY'S HEARING BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, DENSITY TRAFFIC, UM, AND CONFIGURATION OF, OF SOME OF THE, THE HOMES.

AND SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THAT IS ADJACENT, UH, THE FOREST CREST, UH, HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.

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AND WE DO HAVE AN AGREEMENT IN PLACE WITH THEM, UM, TO RESTRICT SOME OF THE DESIGN AND AND DENSITY FOR THE PROJECT.

AND WE DO HAVE, UM, P DAWSON HERE, UH, WHO IS OUR, OUR PROJECT ENGINEER.

THEY ACTUALLY WENT AHEAD AND PREPARED THIS, UH, TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, UM, ABOUT CAMP BULLIS ROAD BECAUSE THAT MOST, SOME OF THE INFORMATION YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR TODAY IS THAT CAMP BULLIS ROAD CAN'T HOLD, HOLD THE CAPACITY THAT WE ARE PUTTING ONTO THAT ROAD.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S NOT TRUE.

UM, IT HOLDS ABOUT 10,000, UH, CARS TRIPS AND WE ARE ADDING ABOUT 16% TO THAT FOR A TOTAL OF A SIX SECOND INCREASE AT THE LIGHT.

UH, AND I'LL LET ANDREW BELTON GO THROUGH THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, SINCE HE PREPARED THE SHEET.

SO, UM, SINCE WE SUBMITTED THE APPLICATION IN SEPTEMBER, THIS OUTLINES ALL OF OUR OUTREACH TO NOT JUST THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, BUT THE ADJACENT USES IN THE AREA, UH, INCLUDING THE PINEAPPLE SCHOOL, INCLUDING THE CABINET SHOP, UH, THAT'S NEXT TO US AND OTHER COMMERCIAL, UH, BUSINESS OWNERS.

AND OUR LAST MEETING WAS WITH, UH, THE FOREST CREST HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION ON NOVEMBER 1ST.

AND THAT WAS WHEN WE, UH, AGREED TO THE DEVELOPMENT RESTRICTIONS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE.

UM, THIS DOES REQUIRE A PLAN AMENDMENT AND WE WENT TO PLANNING COMMISSION LAST MONTH WHERE THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.

HERE ARE THE RESTRICTIONS THAT WE AGREED TO WITH THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.

IT RESTRICTS THE, UH, NUMBER OF UNITS, THE HEIGHT FENCING, THE TYPE OF UNIT, THE ORIENTATION OF THE UNIT, THE SCHOOL, UH, BUS STOP LOCATION, UH, AMONG OTHER THINGS.

AND I WON'T FOCUS ON THAT TOO MUCH 'CAUSE I THINK AUDREY'S PROBABLY GONNA TELL ME TO STOP.

SO, UM, WITH THAT, UH, I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL OF THE MF 18 ZONING DESIGNATION, UH, FOR THIS SITE TO ALLOW FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.

AND, UH, THE DEVELOPER IS HERE AS WELL AS OUR ENGINEER.

AND THEN I KNOW THERE IS, THERE ARE SOME SPEAKERS, SO I'D LIKE TO HAVE SOME TIME FOR REBUTTAL.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? WE DO.

DO WE HAVE VOICEMAILS AND SPEAKERS OR, YES, WE HAVE BOTH VOICEMAILS AND SPEAKERS.

ALRIGHT.

DID ANY OF THE SPEAKERS I CHECKED ANY? NONE OF THEM.

YOU CHECKED ALREADY? MM-HMM? DANG.

ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHT, WELL IF WE COULD HEAR THE VOICEMAILS FIRST PLEASE.

THANK YOU PEREZ.

ADAM, I LIVE AT TWO TWO ZERO EIGHT THREE FIVE GRACE NAVAJO.

UM, MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 313-7667.

I AM UH, LEAVING THIS MESSAGE FOR, UM, ZONE CASE V 2 0 2 4 1 0 7 0 0 2 3 1.

I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT THE PRESENT TRAFFIC CONGESTION IS ALREADY DIFFICULT IN THIS AREA, BUT WILL BE UNSUSTAINABLE WITH 350 TO 400 NEW FAMILIES MOVING INTO THE SMALL SPACE, WHICH IS POTENTIALLY 700 OR 800 MORE CARS.

WE WILL ALL, AND WE WILL ALL BE MOVING OVER A SINGLE LANE BRIDGE AT CAMP BULLS AND AVER RIDGE.

THIS BRIDGE NOW HAS A STOPLIGHT, WHICH PREVENTS ANYONE FROM MOVING AROUND A CAR THAT IS TRYING TO TURN LEFT.

THEREFORE, BACKING UP ALL THE TRAFFIC ON CAMPOS.

THIS IS OUR ONLY WAY OUT IF THERE IS A FIRE OR ANOTHER, OR SOME OTHER DISASTER IN THIS AREA.

WE HAVE NO OTHER WAY TO GET OUT OF THIS AREA.

ALSO, EMERGENCY VEHICLES HAVE NO OTHER WAY IN.

I HOPE YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THE VERY REAL DANGERS THIS PRESENTS TO US.

THE CITIZENS WHO LIVE HERE, AT THE VERY LEAST, THIS PROJECT SHOULD BE POSTPONED TO THE BRIDGE, CAN BE PROPERLY UPDATED TO ACCOMMODATE THIS GROWING POPULATION.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

GOODBYE.

GOOD AFTERNOON, THIS IS, UH, RICHARD ADAM.

I LIVE AT 2 0 8 3 5.

GREAT NAVAJO 7 8 2 5 7.

UH, JUST OUT OF THE AREA OF THE 200 FEET FOR THE ADDRESS AT UH, IN IAN REGARDING, UH, ZONING COMMISSION OR ZONING, UH, EVALUATION FOR Z 2 0 2 4 1 0 7 0 0 2 3 1.

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UM, I AM CURRENTLY ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION OF THE BALCON HEIGHTS, TEXAS CITY OF, UH, BALCONES HEIGHTS AND ALSO A RESIDENT OF FOREST CREST.

UM, THE AREA IN IAN, UH, HAS SOME SERIOUS DEVELOPMENT NOW IN THE FOREST GRASS AREA.

AS IN 2001, CAMP BULLIS MILITARY BO POST CLOSED THE ROAD THROUGH CAMP BULLIS TO ALLOW US TO REACH HIGHWAY 1604 AND THE OLD CAMP BULLIS ROAD HAS NOW CLOSED ACCESS AROUND THE SAME TIME.

THEREFORE, OUR ONLY INGRESS INGRESS INTO FOREST CREST IS ACROSS CAMP BULLIS AND A VERY SMALL ONE LANE EACH DIRECTION BRIDGE NEAR RA RIDGE.

THIS CREATES A MAJOR ISSUE OF BACKUP OF TRAFFIC, UM, DUE TO THE RECENT REZONING OF THE PINEAPPLE SCHOOL AND THE INCREASED, UH, HOUSING DEVELOPMENT IN THE DOMINION.

THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT, WHICH PLANS TO ADD QUITE A BIT, BIT OF, UH, HOUSING UNITS IS GOING TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC ACROSS THIS ONE LANE BRIDGE AND MAKE IT TO WHERE IT'S EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO DRIVE IN AND OUT.

THIS IS SHERRY GER AND NICK GER, MY HUSBAND.

UH, WE ARE CALLING REGARDING CASE NUMBER Z 2 0 2 4 1 0 7 0 0 2 3 1.

UM, AND OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED REZONING FOR, UM, THE APPROXIMATE 24 ACRES OF LAND OFF OF CAMP BULLAS ROAD.

WE LIVE AT 2 0 7 8 2 EAST TEJAS TRAIL AND AS WELL ON THE PROPERTY AT 2 0 7 9 OH EAST TEJAS TRAIL.

UM, WE HAVE GREAT CONCERNS ABOUT THE LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND ROADWAY AND BRIDGE WIDTH ON CAMP BULLAS ROAD, WHICH WOULD BE THE ONLY WAY IN AND THE ONLY WAY OUT TO OUR HOME EMERGENCY VEHICLES SUCH AS AMBULANCE, UH, FIRE TRUCKS, UH, ANY OTHER KIND OF AID THAT'S NECESSARY DUE TO THE TRAFFIC IMPACT THAT WOULD COME WITH, UH, A DEVELOPMENT THAT IS PROPOSED THERE FOR OVER 400, UM, OCCUPANTS AND WHICH WOULD BE AT LEAST THAT MANY CARS.

UH, WE HAVE TMI UH, SCHOOL, WE HAVE GOT THE PINEAPPLE SCHOOL AND ON TRAIL AS WELL AS AN ENTRY AND AN EXIT TO THE DOMINION.

SO PLEASE CONSIDER, UH, NOT, NOT REZONING UNTIL WE HAVE ROADWAY AND NEW BRIDGE THAT COULD ACCOMMODATE IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WILL BE NECESSARY.

THANK YOU FOR HEARING US TODAY.

THANKS FOR HEARING US.

BYE-BYE NOW.

AND SO THAT IS IT FOR VOICEMAILS.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO SPEAKERS.

UM, FIRST I HAVE MR. ANDREW BELTON TO BE FOLLOWED BY MR. MIKE FULTON.

I THINK WE'RE, YEAH.

OKAY.

AND INCLUDING MR. RICK HOLLAND.

OKAY.

LIKEWISE.

OKAY.

UM, NEXT WE HAVE MR. BILL KAUFMAN TO BE FOLLOWED BY RUDY GARZA AND SID WOLF.

I'M ASSUMING Y'ALL ARE GIVING YOUR TIME.

OKAY.

SO, MR. KAUFMAN, YOU'LL HAVE SIX MINUTES.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE ZONING COMMISSION.

I'M BILL KAUFMAN WITH THE KAUFMAN GROUP, 100 WEST HOUSTON STREET.

UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

UM, I REPRESENT, UH, RACHEL BALINSKI, WHO'S HERE, AND WE'LL SPEAK AFTER I DO, WHO IS THE ORGANIZER FOR HER NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT'S NOT A FORMED HOA, BUT IT IS A VERY ORGANIZED NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS BEEN MEETING FOR MANY YEARS, UH, IN COORDINATING.

UM, LET, IS THAT MINE? UH, CAN YOU PULL UP OUR, WE COULD HOLD OFF ON MY TIME TILL WE PULL UP MY PRESENTATION.

IT'S CALLED SPEAKER.

OKAY.

YEAH.

SO ODDLY, OKAY, I SEE IT THERE, BUT I DON'T SEE IT ON THE BIG SCREEN.

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PUT IT ON THAT SCREEN.

TELL ME WHEN Y'ALL ARE READY.

I'M WATCHING THE CLOCK KEEPER OVER THERE.

SHE JUST KEEPS LOOKING AT HER.

WATCH .

TIME OUT.

GO AHEAD.

OKAY.

UH, INTERESTING.

WE PUT ON OUR FIRST PAGE, UH, THAT PICTURE, THAT PICTURE IS FROM A CABINET SHOP, WHICH I'LL SHOW YOU IN A MINUTE, OUTSIDE THEIR FRONT DOOR.

AND THAT IS THE TRAFFIC BACKING UP ALL THE WAY FROM THEIR LOCATION TO IH 10.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UH, QUICKLY, UH, CAROLINE DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB SHOWING YOU AERIALS.

YOU CAN SEE DELINEATED THE SUBJECT PROPERTY RIGHT, UH, NORTH OF THE RIM OFF I 10 LITTLE CLOSER VIEW THIS.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO SHOW THE GENERATORS, UH, AROUND IT TO THE FAR RIGHT OR THE TOP RIGHT CORNERS.

CAMP BULLIS, THEIR GATE IS CLOSED, IS NOT ACCESSIBLE, SO PEOPLE CANNOT EXIT THAT WAY.

UH, TO THE FAR NORTH OR NORTH, UH, WEST IS DOMINION.

THEY HAVE, AS WAS MENTIONED, A BACK GATE THAT'S GATED, BUT THEY CAN LEAVE IT.

AND, AND THEY DO GET TO TEJAS AND GET ON, UH, CAMP BULLIS TO GET TO 10 SHORTCUT.

UH, AND THEN BELOW THAT IS TMI, WHO IS, BY THE WAY, THE OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY OR THE CHURCH.

EPISCOPAL CHURCH IS THE OWNER OF THE SITE.

AND THEN, UM, AND SO THAT GIVES YOU A IDEA.

THE ONLY WAY IN AND OUT IS CAMP BULLIS FROM THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE AROUND THIS AREA.

UH, THIS A LITTLE CLOSER VIEW SHOWING THE SITE, UH, TO THE LEFT OR LEFT CORNER IS THE CABINET SHOP WHO IS IN OPPOSITION AND THEIR LAND EXTENDS ALL THE WAY UP TO THE SUBJECT SITE.

UM, AND TO THE LEFT OF THAT IS COUNTY LAND.

UH, TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE IS LAND O, OTHER LAND OWNED BY THE EPISCOPAL CHURCH.

AND TO, TO THE RIGHT FAR RIGHT IS THE PINEAPPLE SCHOOL.

SO REALLY, UH, WE'LL SEE IN A MINUTE THE LETTERS OF OPPOSITION.

THIS IS THE ZONING MAP.

CURRENTLY IT'S OWNED C ONE MILAN CAMP BULLIS.

IT'S GOT A SMATTERING OF C TWO AND, AND, UH, R SIX AND R 20.

THAT'S THE CURRENT ZONING.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

THIS IS OUR SLIDE THAT WE TOOK THE KNOWN OPPOSITION AND PREPARED THE OLD DAYS.

Y'ALL USED TO POST THIS ON THE STAFF PRESENTATION.

YOU CAN SEE WHO'S AFFORDING AGAINST THIS IS, THIS IS ALL THE ONES WE KNOW AGAINST.

THERE MAY BE OTHERS WE'RE NOT AWARE OF, AND THERE MAY BE OTHERS OTHER THAN THE APPLICANT IN FAVOR.

WE JUST DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THAT INFORMATION.

BUT, UM, THE SHADED AREA IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SHE MEN, UH, CAROLINE MENTIONED IT'S THE DENT LOT.

UH, LET'S SEE IF I CAN DO THIS QUICKLY.

THIS RIGHT HERE IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD THEY DEALT WITH.

IT'S ONLY 18 LOTS, TWO OF WHICH ARE OPPOSED.

SO THE, THE AGREEMENT THEY WOULD REACH WITH IS AT BEST, 16 OR LESS OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE RIGHT HERE.

ALL THE OTHERS ARE OPPOSED.

NEXT SLIDE.

THIS IS THEIR SITE PLAN SUPERIMPOSED ON THE, UM, ON, ON THEIR SITE.

THE SCARY THING IS THEIR, THEY HAVE TWO ENTRANTS IN INGRESS AND EGRESS.

ONE HERE ON CAMP BULLIS AND THE OTHER ONE IS ALIGNED WITH THE PINEAPPLE SCHOOL EXIT.

SO YOU CAN IMAGINE AT FOUR 30 OR FIVE O'CLOCK THE DISASTER THAT'S GONNA BE OF PEOPLE LEAVING TMI PEOPLE LEAVING THE DOMINION AND PEOPLE TRYING TO GET TO THE PINEAPPLE SCHOOL.

NEXT SLIDE.

OKAY, SO IN SUMMARY, UM, THE, THE, WE HAVE NO QUALMS ABOUT THE DEVELOPER I UNDERSTANDING HAS A VERY GOOD REPUTATION.

WE HAVE NO QUALMS ABOUT THE RENTAL UNITS.

THIS ISN'T AN ANTI-REAL UNIT CASE.

IT'S A TRAFFIC CASE.

THE TRAFFIC IS A PREEXISTING CONDITION.

IT'S ALREADY A PROBLEM, A BIG PROBLEM.

THEY'RE ONE LANE GOING ONE WAY, ONE LANE GOING THE OTHER WAY.

IF THERE'S AN ACCIDENT OR SOMEBODY RUNS OUTTA GAS OR A FLAT TIRE OR A FIRE, PEOPLE CAN'T GET IN AND OUT.

THAT'S NO FAULT OF THE APPLICANT.

BUT IT'S A PREEXISTING, UH, CONDITION.

IF YOU NOTICED ALL THE, ALL THE PROPERTY INDEPENDENT PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WE COULD CONTACT AROUND THE SITE ARE OPPOSED TO IT.

WHY? TRAFFIC? THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE UNIT.

THEY REALLY DON'T EVEN CARE ABOUT THE AESTHETICS AS MUCH.

THEY DO CARE ABOUT THE TRAFFIC.

UM, SO I'D ASK YOU TO PUT YOURSELF IN YOUR SHOES IF YOU WERE LIVING IN THAT AREA, TRYING TO GET IN AND OUT AND IMAGINE THE DISASTER IT IS TODAY AND WHAT IT WILL BE WITH ANOTHER NUMBER OF UNITS.

NOW THEIR

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ZONING ALLOWS OVER 400 UNITS IN THERE.

THEY'VE AGREED THAT WE UNDERSTAND TO 350.

THAT'S STILL A LOT.

THAT'S A LOT OF CARS COMING IN AND OUT.

THAT'S ALL, UH, COMBINED WITH THE, THE, UM, THE PINEAPPLE TRAFFIC AND ALSO THE CABINET SHOP HAS OVER 200 CARS WORKERS.

THAT'S WHERE THEY MAKE CABINETS.

SO THERE'S TONS OF TRAFFIC.

NOW ARE THERE SOLUTIONS? PROBABLY, BUT THERE ARE NONE THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED THAT THE, THE DEVELOPER'S GONNA DO BEFORE THEY BUILD THEIR PROJECT.

SO WE'VE ASKED THAT THE, UH, THAT WE GET HELP FROM THE CITY ENGINEERS, UH, TRAFFIC ENGINEERS AND PUBLIC WORKS, AND FIGURE OUT WHAT ARE THE LONG-TERM SOLUTIONS.

BUT IN THE, IN THE INTERIM, YOU CANNOT ALLOW THAT MANY CARS, 350 PLUS CARS BEING IN AND OUT DURING PEAK HOUR TRAFFIC.

IT'S GOT, IT'S REALLY A SAFETY ISSUE.

AND WE ASK YOUR CONSIDERATION, UM, TO, UH, HEAR THEIR PLIGHT.

YOU'RE GONNA HEAR FROM RACHEL.

AND THEN IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AFTER THE REBUTTAL, ANYTIME, PLEASE CALL ME AND WE'LL, WE'LL DO OUR BEST.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

NEXT WE HAVE MS. RACHEL BALINSKI.

HI.

GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY.

UM, MY NAME'S RACHEL BALINSKI.

I LIVE, THERE WE GO.

I LIVE AT, UH, 2 0 8 1 1 EAST TEJAS TRAIL AND MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 823-5446.

UM, AS YOU HAVE HEARD FROM OTHER SPEAKERS ALREADY, I JUST KIND OF WANNA RECAP THAT I AM HERE SPEAKING FOR A LOT OF THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD THAT COULDN'T BE HERE BECAUSE FOR HEALTH REASONS OR WORK OR BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO GO VOTE.

UM, BUT WE DO HAVE AN ORGANIZED NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP.

I'VE BEEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS AND I'M THE YOUNGSTER.

SO IT'S, WE'VE BEEN AROUND, WE'VE HAD COMMUNICATIONS FOR QUITE SOME TIME FOR THE PAST, I DON'T KNOW, FIVE OR SIX YEARS NOW.

WE HAVE ALL BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC BECAUSE WE ALL KNEW THINGS WERE GONNA DEVELOP OUT THERE.

I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S THE NATURE OF LIFE.

THINGS GROW.

SO THAT WAS NEVER THE CONCERN.

WE'RE NOT ANTI-DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE FOR IT.

WE JUST WANT TO BE SAFE.

AND, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY HAS TALKED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC AND HOW BAD IT IS AND THOSE ARE ALL VALID CONCERNS.

BUT I MEAN, THE BOTTOM LINE IS IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE.

IF I FALL DOWN, BREAK MY HIP AND NEED AN AMBULANCE, WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY CAN'T GET TO ME? YOU KNOW, WHAT IF SOMETHING WORSE HAPPENS? WHAT IF SOMEBODY HAS A HEART ATTACK AND THEY CALL FOR AN AMBULANCE? YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S, IT'S A SCARY PROSPECT.

I THINK THAT THIS IS, AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A SCARY ISSUE.

IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE.

AGAIN, NOT ANTI-DEVELOPMENT.

WE'RE ALL FOR THAT.

BUT THE, THE ZONING AS IT STANDS ALLOWS FOR, I DON'T KNOW, OVER A HUNDRED OR 200 HOUSES.

UM, IT'S JUST NOT MULTIFAMILY AND WE'RE NOT AGAINST MULTIFAMILY EITHER, BUT THAT, THAT LEVEL, THAT DENSITY IS JUST NOT SUSTAINABLE.

THAT, UM, IS THAT MY TIME ALREADY? OKAY.

WELL, DIDN'T, IS IT POSSIBLE TO SHOW A PICTURE OR JUST TOO LATE? YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND SHOW A PICTURE REAL QUICK.

LEMME SEE IF I CAN JUST ACTUALLY, IT'S A, IT'S A 22ND VIDEO.

.

YES.

NO, SORRY, I, THE TWO MINUTES GOES REALLY QUICK, LEE.

QUICKLY.

WELL, REGARDLESS, I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION AND I'M CONCERNED FOR SAFETY.

IT'S, IT'S FINE.

IT'S FINE.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

IF, IF YOU HAVE, OH, YOU DON'T HAVE IT, YOU WANT OH, I DO HAVE IT.

YEAH, WE'LL SEE IT REAL QUICK.

THIS, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU DON'T, THIS I'LL BASICALLY STANDING AT THE, UH, IF YOU CAN POSSIBLE TO RESTART IT.

.

ALRIGHT, THERE WE GO.

SO THIS IS STANDING BASICALLY IN FRONT OF THE CABINET SHOP, STANDING IN FRONT OF THE CABINET, CABINET SHOT, LOOKING TOWARDS I 10.

YOU CAN SEE HOW IT'S BACKED UP.

AND THEN I'M ZOOMING OUT, TURNING AROUND, LOOKING BACK TOWARDS WEST TEJAS TRAIL AND YOU CAN SORT OF SEE IF YOU LOOK THAT'S WEST TEJAS TRAIL GOING IN FRONT OF THE PINEAPPLE SCHOOL.

IT IS, IT'S JUST A, IT'S A, IT'S A LOT.

RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AND THAT IS IT FOR PUBLIC PUBLIC COMMENT.

ALRIGHT, MS. MCDONALD, WITH AN EXTRA 30 SECONDS.

.

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THANK YOU.

UH, THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

AND JUST TO TOUCH ON A FEW ITEMS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP AND UNDERSTANDABLY, TRAFFIC IS, IS THE BIGGEST ISSUE FROM, FROM WHAT WE HEARD.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S OFTENTIMES A MAJOR ISSUE IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS.

THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY SUPPOSED TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS.

UM, BUT MY CLIENT HAS CONDUCTED A PRELIMINARY TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.

THERE ARE IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE, IMPROVEMENTS THAT WON'T COME UNLESS A DEVELOPMENT COMES IN A DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS.

UM, I UNDERSTAND THE UNIT COUNT IS STILL TOO HIGH FOR THEM, BUT WE ARE THE LOWEST MULTIFAMILY DESIGNATION WE COULD REQUEST.

AND WE'RE ACTUALLY, WE REDUCED THE NUMBER OF UNITS FROM 4 37 OR EIGHT TO 350.

UM, SO, AND OUR ENGINEER IS HERE AND CAN WALK THROUGH SOME OF THOSE FINDINGS FROM THE IMPACT ANALYSIS, BUT THEY INCLUDE A LEFT TURN LANE INTO THE DEVELOPMENT, UM, TINKERING WITH THE LIGHT, UH, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE SURE THERE, THERE'S MORE OF A, A FLOW, UM, AS WELL AS, UH, POTENTIALLY A THROUGH LANE THAT COULD HELP WITH, WITH WHAT WAS SEEN JUST NOW.

UM, WE AGAIN, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE FOREST CREST NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AS THEY WERE INTERESTED IN LEARNING MORE AND FINDING OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON AND COMING INTO AN AGREEMENT.

UM, BUT WE ARE MORE THAN OPEN TO, TO MEET WITH MRS. BALINSKI AND, AND HER PEOPLE AND HAVE MET WITH THEM TWICE ALREADY, UM, TO DISCUSS THE PROJECT MORE.

SO AGAIN, WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND, UH, AGAIN, RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

UH, THIS IS A DISTRICT EIGHT CASE AND COMMISSIONER ORTIZ IS NOT HERE.

UM, I GOT SOME NOTES FROM HIM, MR. CHAIR.

OH.

SO, SO I'M HAPPY TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS.

OKAY.

YOU'RE IN CHARGE.

SO TO YOU FOR, TO YOU COMMISSIONER BARROS FOR QUESTIONS.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SOME GENERAL COMMENTS.

UM, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO, UH, THE CITY COUNCIL OFFICE DISTRICT AID, UH, ESPECIALLY LAURA AND COUNCILMAN ELAS.

THEY'VE ACTUALLY MET SEVERAL TIMES, UM, ON THIS CASE.

UM, COMMISSIONER ORTIZ, UM, SAID THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF, UM, COMMUNITY OUTREACH.

THEY HAVE ACTUALLY MET WITH SEVERAL OF THE PARTIES, UH, IT IS AN APPROPRIATE USE OF THE LAND.

UM, HE ALSO, UM, WAS CONCERNED ABOUT SOME OF THE TRAFFIC, BUT WITH ANY TRAFFIC, I THINK THERE ARE SOLUTIONS, UH, TURN, TURN, LIGHT, UH, LEFT AND RIGHT LANES.

UM, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT HAVE TO HAPPEN BEFORE A DEVELOPMENT CAN HAPPEN IN, IN THAT AREA.

AND ALL THAT IS PART OF THE, UH, PROCESS OF PUBLIC WORKS.

UM, HE ALSO EXPRESSED, UH, SUPPORT FOR THIS.

COMMISSIONER ORTIZ SAID THAT IT IS ANYTHING PENDING THAT NEEDS TO BE WORKED OUT IN THE NEXT FOUR WEEKS BEFORE CITY COUNCIL, THAT HE'S OPEN TO, UH, MEETINGS WITH THE, UH, WITH ANYONE INTERESTED IN THIS AT THE COUNCIL OFFICES.

AND HE DID EXPRESS THAT THIS WAS ALREADY, UH, CONTINUED FOR THE PAST FOUR WEEKS.

SO, UH, HE WANT TO EXPRESS, UH, SUPPORT AND MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

AND THOSE ARE HIS NOTES THAT HE SENT ME THIS MORNING FROM OUT OF TOWN.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

WELL, BEFORE WE GET TO THE MOTION, WE'LL ASK QUESTIONS FROM OTHER COMMISSIONERS.

UH, COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE.

UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH MS. MCDONALD.

ALRIGHT, SO ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT'S BEEN REPEATEDLY RAISED BY THOSE IN OPPOSITION IS, UM, THE TRAFFIC.

UM, AND IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THERE ARE BASICALLY TWO CHOKE POINTS.

ONE IS THE CAMP BULL GATE, WHICH IS CLOSED.

MM-HMM, .

AND THE OTHER IS A, A ONE LANE BRIDGE, UH, OVER WHAT I PRESUME IS LEON CREEK THERE NEAR LEON CREEK DRIVE AND VETA.

IS THAT CORRECT? I BELIEVE SO.

I'M GONNA ASK OUR ENGINEER TO COME UP HERE.

IT'S A TWO LANE BRIDGE.

1 1 1 1 WAY.

SORRY.

YEAH.

YEAH.

NOT, WE'RE NOT GOING THAT FAR BACK IN TIME.

YEAH, .

UM, SO HOW, I GUESS FOR YOU, THE QUESTION IS IF THAT'S THE BRIDGE IN QUESTION, YOU KNOW, ABOUT WHAT IS IT ABOUT A QUARTER MILE FROM OR LESS FROM I 10? UH, THAT IS CORRECT.

SO I'M ANDREW BELTON, PAWSON ENGINEERS 2000 NORTHWEST LOOP FOUR 10.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UM, ALRIGHT.

SO YOU DID THE PRELIMINARY TRAFFIC STUDY, IS THAT CORRECT? UH, PAWSON PERFORMED THE PRELIMINARY TRAFFIC STUDY.

THAT IS CORRECT.

OKAY.

AND, AND IT'S UP THERE ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW.

THAT IS GOOD.

SO HOW DOES THE BRIDGE, UH, IMPACT THAT TRAFFIC STUDY? SO THE CAPACITY SHOWN THERE IS FOR A STANDARD ROADWAY TWO-WAY ROADWAY IN SAN ANTONIO.

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SO 10,000 TRIPS IS WHAT A TWO-WAY, UH, ROAD CAN HANDLE BRIDGE OR NOT, UH, BASED ON Y'ALL'S CODE.

AND GIVEN THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOW A, I WAS GETTING READY TO TELL A HIGH SCHOOL STORY, MR. CHAIR.

UM, BUT GIVEN THAT THIS IS NOW A FAIRLY, UH, POPULATED AREA AND THAT LIGHT ON I 10 AND CAMP BULLIS ROAD, UH, DOES HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF TRAFFIC, GIVEN THE INTERPLAY BETWEEN THAT LIGHT AND THE BRIDGE, HOW DOES THAT IMPACT TRAFFIC? SO THERE'S ACTUALLY A NEW LIGHT THAT'S AT RIS IN CAMP BULLIS.

SO THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO LIGHTS THERE.

AND SO THAT LIGHT WHEN IT WAS INSTALLED AS PART OF THE WELLMED PROJECT WOULD'VE BEEN TIMED APPROPRIATELY.

AND PART OF OUR STUDY THAT WE WILL HAVE TO DO AS PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE TO LOOK AT THOSE COUNTS AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY KIND OF SIGNAL MODIFICATION OR TIMING THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT SIX SECONDS DOESN'T GROW TO SOMETHING MORE THAT IS, UH, BEYOND A LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED BY THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.

OKAY.

AND WHEN WAS THE LIGHT AT VETA INSTALLED? UH, I DON'T KNOW THE DATE TO THAT, UH, IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS.

LAST FOUR YEARS.

LAST FOUR YEARS AGO.

YEAH.

I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT WAS TRULY TURNED ON.

THANK YOU, MS. BALINSKI, IF I COULD ASK YOU A QUESTION BRIEFLY.

THANK YOU, SIR.

YES, SIR.

UH, MS. BALINSKI.

SO WHEN YOU, UH, TOOK THAT VIDEO THERE OUTSIDE THE CABINETRY SHOP, UH, WAS THAT WITH THE VETA LIGHT PRESENT AT THAT TIME? YES.

OKAY.

UM, LET ME ASK YOU, AS THE TRAFFIC SORT OF STACKS UP THERE FROM THE VETA LIGHT BACK TOWARDS CAMP BULLIS, HOW FAR DOES IT GO BACK? TYPICALLY? IT TYPICALLY GOES AT LEAST TO WEST HAAS AND SOMETIMES ALL THE WAY PAST, UM, THE PINEAPPLE SCHOOL.

SO BASICALLY LIKE THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE.

THANK YOU.

I THINK THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU MS. BO, SIR? YES SIR.

ALRIGHT.

OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.

COMMISS, I KNEW IT.

COMMISSIONER REYES QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR FOR THE, UH, ENGINEER.

IS IT ANDREW? YES.

ANDREW, UH, LOOKING AT CAMP BULLIS, UH, THE SHOULDERS, THE, THEY LOOK LIKE EIGHT FOOT SHOULDERS.

UH, I DON'T, OKAY.

I, I HAVEN'T LOOKED INTO IT.

LET'S, LET'S TAKE A WILD GUESS.

YEAH.

AND IT'S EIGHT FOOT SHOULDERS, I'D SAY EIGHT FEET SOUNDS RIGHT.

OKAY.

THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

UH, EXCEPT AT THE BRIDGE THEN IT, IT NARROWS DOWN AT THE BRIDGE.

THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY.

BECAUSE OF A SIDEWALK.

THAT'S CORRECT.

BUT EIGHT FOOT SHOULDERS, WOULD THAT BE SUFFICIENT TO ALLOW EMERGENCY VEHICLES TO GO, UH, AROUND IT? IT SHOULD BE DEPENDING ON THE WIDTH OF THE LANES.

OKAY.

BUT CAN I TOUCH ON EMERGENCY VEHICLES? OF COURSE.

JUST 'CAUSE IT'S COME UP A COUPLE TIMES.

SO ALTHOUGH THE DOMINION IS A PRIVATE SUBDIVISION, ALL OF THE ROADS WITHIN THE DOMINION ARE PLATTED TO ALLOW EMERGENCY VEHICLES.

AND SO ALTHOUGH THIS AREA HAS ONE TRUE POINT OF PUBLIC ACCESS AND AN EMERGENCY TYPE SITUATION, EMERGENCY VEHICLES CAN UTILIZE THE DOMINION TO GET TO THE SPOT.

SO JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT AS, AS A, A MEANS TO A SECONDARY ACCESS POINT.

OKAY.

UH, REMIND ME, IS THE SIGNAL THAT I 10, IS THAT A CITY SIGNAL OR A TEXT DOT SIGNAL? I DON'T KNOW, BUT TYPICALLY IT WOULD BE A TXDOT SIGNAL THAT'S OWNED AND MAINTAINED BY THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.

AND AS PART OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY, WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE TEXT DOT COME TO THE TABLE TO BE ABLE TO ANALYZE THAT INTERSECTION.

OKAY.

SO IF THERE'S A COMPLAINT, LET'S SAY THE MORNING PEAK AND THERE'S A COMPLAINT ABOUT THE, THE PHASING FOR THE LEFT TO GO INTO TOWN, P DAWSON IS ABLE TO RECOMMEND TO TXDOT IS TO ADD ADDITIONAL PHASING FOR THE LEFT, THE GREEN LEFT.

THAT THAT IS CORRECT.

OKAY.

THAT IS CORRECT.

AND IN, IN THE EVENING PEAK, YOU ALL CAN MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO TXDOT TO CHANGE THE PHASING AS WELL IF THE TIA SHOWS THAT THAT'S THE CASE AND AND THAT'S A RECOMMENDATION OF TEXT VIA THE SCOPING MEETING? YES, EXACTLY.

BUT MY POINT IS BEING PROACTIVE.

YES.

SO INSTEAD OF TDOT GOING OUT THERE YEAH, WE WOULD, WE WOULD INVITE TEXDOT TO THE TABLE 'CAUSE WE WOULD HAVE TO STUDY THAT INTERSECTION AS PART OF OUR DUE DILIGENCE FOR THIS PROPERTY.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER HUEY.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

UH, QUESTION FOR MR. ZELINSKY? YES SIR.

HI.

HI.

CAN YOU PLEASE TELL US WHAT TIME OF THE DAY YOUR VIDEO WAS TAKEN? IT WAS ROUGHLY FOUR 20, I BELIEVE.

UH, LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXACT TIME.

FOUR 14.

THANK

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YOU.

YES, SIR.

IS IT, COULD I SPEAK TO THE SHOULDER ON THE BRIDGE IF A COMMISSIONER WISHES TO, DOES A COMMISSIONER WISH TO KNOW ABOUT THE SHOULDER ON THE BRIDGE? YES, THAT WOULD BE INTRIGUED.

, PLEASE TELL US ABOUT THE SHOULDER ON THE BRIDGE.

OKAY, THERE YOU GO.

THERE IS A SIDEWALK ON ONE SIDE OF THAT BRIDGE, BUT NOT ON BOTH.

AND THERE'S PROBABLY THREE, MAYBE FOUR FEET, FOUR FEET.

THERE'S THE, THERE'S THE SIDEWALK ON ONE SIDE AND THEN MAYBE THREE OR FOUR FEET.

AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE THERE'S ABOUT THREE OR FOUR FEET, BUT THE BRIDGE HAS, YOU KNOW, THE DRAINAGE HOLES IN THE BOTTOM.

SO IT'S KIND OF SCARY TO WALK ON THAT THING, ESPECIALLY IF CARS ARE THERE.

THANK YOU.

YES, SIR.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

UH, COMMISSIONER, HOLD ON.

REBOOT, UH, COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA.

SORRY.

YES, FOR ANDREW REAL QUICK, JUST 'CAUSE I'M, I'M NOT AN ENGINEER BY ANY MEANS, BUT THE CAPACITY USE OF THE CAPACITY WAS 10,000 TRIPS.

THAT'S FOR A CITY ROAD THAT IS BASED ON THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.

SO BASED ON, ON THE CITY'S CODE, A TWO LANE, UM, A TWO LANE ROAD THAT OPERATES AS THIS ONE DOES, HAS CAPACITY FOR UP TO 10,000 TRIPS.

OKAY.

AND THEN YOU MENTIONED THAT EMERGENCY VEHICLES COULD GO THROUGH THE, THE DOMINION, UH, AREA? THAT'S CORRECT.

UM, YOU PROBABLY DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS, OR MAYBE YOU DO.

I I DON'T, BUT LET'S SAY I HAVE A HEART ATTACK, WHICH MY WIFE SAYS I MAY HAVE THE WAY I'M EATING RIGHT, , UM, I DIDN'T GET AS MANY LAUGHS AS I THOUGHT I WOULD GET.

BUT, UH, IF, IF THAT, IF THAT EMS, IF THAT EMS UNIT IS, IS DIS DISPATCHED AT FOUR 14 AND THERE IS TRAFFIC, DOES THE EMERGENCY UNIT KNOW TO GO AROUND OR GO UP FURTHER? IS THERE A SYSTEM IN PLACE? UM, I, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD THINK THAT THEY WOULD USE THEIR MAPS.

I, I I HAVE NO IDEA.

GOTCHA.

OKAY.

I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS A SYSTEM.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER, THAT'S ALL.

THANKS.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSION ON MY RIGHT, UH, COMMISSION ON MY LEFT.

ANY OTHER, UH, COM COMMISSIONER WHITSETT, AND THIS IS FOR ANDREW? YEAH.

THE BRIDGE THAT'S THERE.

IF YOUR TRAFFIC STUDY SAYS, HEY, ROAD IMPROVEMENTS ARE NECESSARY, UM, DOES THAT POTENTIALLY MEAN THAT THE CITY OR THE DEVELOPER HAS TO PARTICIPATE IN WIDENING THAT BRIDGE AND WHAT'S THE LIKELIHOOD OF THAT EVER HAPPENING? SO, VERY GOOD QUESTION.

SO THROUGH THE TIA PROCESS, UM, ROUGH PROPORTIONALITY WILL BE LOOKED AT.

ROUGH PROPORTIONALITY IS A STATE LAW, UM, WHERE SAN ANTONIO IS A VERY GOOD, UM, UNDERSTANDING OF THAT, THAT CODE, WHICH MEANS THIS DEVELOPMENT CAN PARTICIPATE UP TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY BEFORE THEY CAN'T ASK FOR ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS.

PART OF THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS IS COUNTS.

IT LOOKS AT TMI AND WHEN THEY GET RELEASED.

AND IF THAT IS, YOU KNOW, A CAUSE TO THIS TRAFFIC THAT YOU'RE SEEING, AND THEN IT WOULD BE THE RECOMMENDATIONS LIKELIHOOD THAT THE BRIDGE WOULD BE OVER THE COST OF ROUGH PROPORTIONALITY, BUT SIGNAL TIMING WOULD NOT.

SO THE BRI IS IT PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE TO WIDEN THAT BRIDGE THERE WITHOUT TAKING OF, UH, THINGS OR IS IT GONNA BE VERY EXPENSIVE 'CAUSE OF THE EXISTING FLOOD AND ET CETERA? UM, I, I, YOU CAN WIDEN A BRIDGE, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT THAT GOES INTO THAT, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE IN A FLOOD PLAIN.

ALL RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER BUSTA MONTE.

I'M SORRY.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

UM, I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, UH, FOR MR. FULTON.

IF HE COULD COME UP PLEASE.

AND, AND MS. MCDONALD, YOU MIGHT NEED TO ANSWER SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS AS WELL.

IF YOU WOULD POP UP.

SO IF YOU WOULD REFRESH MY MEMORY, WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL REQUEST HERE FOR DENSITY? SURE.

WELL, GO AHEAD.

YEAH, IT WAS FOR MF 18, WHICH BASED ON THE ACREAGE ALLOWED FOR ABOUT 437 UNITS.

AND THE CURRENT UNITS, UH, THE CURRENT UNITS THAT WE'VE RESTRICTED IS FOR 350.

ALRIGHT.

SO MR. FULTON, THEN THE QUESTION TO YOU IS, YOU KNOW, GIVEN SOME OF THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS, UM, YOU KNOW, IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN GO BELOW? IT'S NOT ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE FOR US TO DO THAT.

UM, BUT I, I WILL SAY THAT WE WOULD NOT INVEST WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO INVEST, UH, IF WE HAD A TRAFFIC PROBLEM OR IF WE HAVE A TRAFFIC PROBLEM.

UM, THIS SYSTEM IS SET UP FOR US TO DO A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.

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AND IF WE ALL AGREE THAT THERE IS A TRAFFIC PROBLEM, WE'RE GONNA RECTIFY IT BEFORE WE INVEST, BEFORE WE INVEST THE TYPE OF CAPITAL THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INVESTING.

UM, THAT'S WHAT THIS PROCESS IS, IS SET UP TO REALLY IDENTIFY.

UM, AND I WOULD ASK THAT WE ALLOW THE PROCESS TO MOVE FORWARD AS IT'S SUPPOSED TO.

UM, UH, WE HAVE, UH, IF, IF YOU, IF WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE NUMBERS THAT, UH, ANDREW PUT UP, WE HAVE, UH, WE, WE HAVE WHAT SOUNDS LIKE TRAFFIC PROBLEM.

WE HAVE AN EXISTING AROUND LESS THAN 3000, UM, DAILY TRIPS ON A ROAD THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, SHOULD HAVE A CAPACITY OF AROUND 10,000.

SO IT'S VERY LOW UTILIZATION IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP BECAUSE IT IS A DEAD END WITH ABOUT 175 HOUSES.

WHEN YOU JUST THINK ABOUT THAT 175 HOUSES IN A TWO LANE ROAD, YOU KNOW, I HAVE APARTMENT COMPLEXES, YOU KNOW, THAT ACCOMMODATE MORE THAN THAT.

UH, SO, UH, WE ALSO HAVE TMI AND, AND, AND, AND THE SCHOOL.

UM, A LOT OF THOSE, IT, IT, IT DAILY TRIPS.

IT, IT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHEN THOSE LET OUT AND I THINK WE CORRELATE REALLY WELL WITH THOSE.

BUT AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS IS.

THANK, THANK YOU MR. FULTON.

I, I DO WANNA FOLLOW UP ON THAT POINT.

UM, YOU HAVE HOW MANY EXISTING BIRDSONG UH, DEVELOPMENTS HERE IN SAN ANTONIO AT THIS POINT? WE HAVE THREE.

DO YOU HAVE A GOOD SENSE OF KIND OF IF PEOPLE ARE LEAVING AT, YOU KNOW, IS A HUNDRED PERCENT OF YOUR DEVELOPMENT LEAVING AT 8:00 AM OR, YOU KNOW, COMING BACK AT 5:00 PM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? AS PART, ACTUALLY AS PART OF, UH, A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS THAT I BELIEVE ANDREW WAS INVOLVED WITH? UH, WHY DON'T WE LET THE ENGINE HERE TALK ABOUT IT? SO WE ACTUALLY DID COUNTS ON ONE OF THE BIRDSONG PRODUCTS AT 97% OCCUPIED.

AND BASED ON THE COUNTS THAT WE GOT, THE IT TE CODE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING, WHICH IS THE SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED THAT WAS ADOPTED BY SAN ANTONIO, IS ACTUALLY MORE CONSERVATIVE THAN THE COUNTS THAT WE GOT ON SITE.

SO BASED ON, I'M SORRY.

SORRY.

SO WHEN YOU SAY MORE CONSERVATIVE, YOU MEAN THAT YOU ANTICIPATE FEWER TRIPS THAN WHAT'S ACTUALLY LISTED HERE? THAT IS CORRECT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU BOTH SO MUCH.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I DO HAVE A QUESTION, BUT MORE, MORE FOR CHRISTIE, UM, OR STAFF ABOUT WHO, UM, IT'S JUST AN OVERALL GENERAL QUESTION.

UM, WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR TALKING TO TEXT.TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE ROAD? LIKE THE FIRST THREE OR 400 FEET FROM I 10? UM, WITH T DOT, I MEAN, WHO WILL IS THE DEVELOPER, THE CITY PUBLIC WORKS? WHO, WHO WILL BE IN CHARGE? BECAUSE I, I SEE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO IMPROVE ALL THEIR TRAFFIC IF THEY HAD AN AUTOMATIC, UH, FREE RIGHT TURN LANE, UH, WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE TO STOP AT THE TRAFFIC LIGHT ON THOSE PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO GO TO THE RIGHT CAN JUST KEEP GOING.

SO WHO IS IN CHARGE OF THAT? IS IT WHO REQUESTS THAT TO TEXT OUT OR THE, OR THE CITY OR THE DEVELOPER WHO, WHO'S INVOLVED WITH THAT? SO IT'S ALWAYS A COORDINATED EFFORT AND THEY STILL HAVE TO, AS YOU KNOW, GO THROUGH MANY DEVELOPMENT PROCESSES, THE PLATING AND, AND LOOKING AT THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND LOOKING AT THE TRAFFIC AND SUBMITTING THEIR ANALYSIS.

BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WHEN THEY COORDINATE WITH TXDOT, IT'S THE DEVELOPER, BUT IT CAN ALSO BE A COMBINATION OF THE CITY, UM, TRYING TO MITIGATE AN ISSUE AS WELL AS THE COUNCIL OFFICE REACHING OUT AND SAYING, HEY, WE HAVE A TRAFFIC ISSUE HERE.

CAN WE LOOK INTO IT FURTHER SO THAT WE CAN GET IT RECTIFIED? THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER FINAL QUESTIONS? OKAY.

I I ACTUALLY, I KNOW WE'VE BEEN TALKING A LOT ABOUT TRAFFIC, UM, AND I'M CURIOUS, AND I DON'T KNOW WHO CAN ANSWER THIS, SO I'M JUST GONNA THROW IT OUT TO WHOEVER WANTS TO GET UP AND ANSWER.

UM, IT COULD BE THE NEIGHBORS, IT COULD BE, IT COULD BE ANDREW.

UM, IS IS TMI ACTUALLY THE, ONE OF THE BIGGER GENERATORS OF THE TRAFFIC AT IS IN, IN OTHER WORDS, IS IT LIKE DURING SCHOOL DROP OFF OR, OR, UH, PICK UP AND, AND, AND FORGIVE ME, I I KNOW SOMEONE WHO WENT, WHO JUST GRADUATED FROM TMI AND I NEVER ASKED HER.

DO YOU, DO YOU STILL LIVE THERE? I DON'T KNOW IF THEY STILL HAVE DORMS WHERE THEY ACTUALLY LIVE ON SITE STILL, UM, LIKE IN THE BACK IN THE DAY.

UM, BUT DO THEY GENERATE TRAFFIC LIKE A TRADITIONAL SCHOOL SO THAT, SO THAT THE, THE LOCALIZED

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IMPACT IS ONLY AT EARLY MORNING AND 3 45 TO FOUR 15? YEAH, SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY, THEY DO STALL DORMS, BUT NOT EVERYBODY LIVES ON CAMPUS AND THEY DO GENERATE TRAFFIC AT DROP OFF AND PICK UP JUST LIKE A A A PUBLIC SCHOOL WOULD OR A NORMAL SCHOOL WOULD.

SO, YES.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU.

UM, ALRIGHT.

I THINK THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT EVERYONE HAS.

SO TO YOU, COMMISSIONER ABBADO, SINCE YOU WERE SO WILLING TO TAKE OVER DUTIES ON THIS CASE TO YOU FOR A MOTION, DID NOT VOLUNTEER FOR THAT BY THE WAY.

YOU, YOU ARE THE ONE WHO SPOKE UP, DID WISHES OF COMMISSIONER, UH, ORTIZ.

SO AS WE HELP EACH OTHER WITH A LOT OF ISSUES, BUT, UM, BASED ON THE PROPER USE OF THIS, UH, CASE AND THE, THE PROPERTY IN, IN THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING RIGHT NOW, UH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO UM, APPROVE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN ON HIS BEHALF.

I'LL SECOND.

ALRIGHT, THERE'S A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BARTOS FOR APPROVAL WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER REYES.

UH, DISCUSSION.

LOOKING LEFT, SEEING NONE, LOOKING RIGHT, SEEING NONE.

ALL I WILL SAY IS THAT AS A LOT OF OUR CASES, THIS IS A PRETTY DIFFICULT CASE.

AND UM, WE WOULD GO TO ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES.

COMMISSIONER REYES? YES.

COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES.

COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES.

COMMISSIONER NOOSA? YES.

COMMISSIONER BUSANTE.

AYE.

COMMISSIONER HUEY AYE.

COMMISSIONER TUP? YES.

COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES.

CHAIR SIPES? YES.

MOTION PASSES.

ALRIGHT, THANK Y'ALL ALL UM, I ENCOURAGE Y'ALL TO SPEAK WITH YOUR CITY COUNCILMAN.

WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO ITEM.

WHAT ARE WE? NINE.

ALRIGHT, GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS SAMANTHA BEA, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

ITEM NUMBER NINE IS LOCATED AT 64 0 7 WEST COMMERCE STREET, GOING FROM C TWO AND A COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC DISTRICT TO C TWO CD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR AUTO AND LIGHT TRUCK REPAIR WITH ALL OVERLY STAYING THE SAME.

THERE WERE 26 NOTICES SENT OUT.

ONE IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED.

LOS PUENTES NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT AND ZERO RESPONSES WERE RECEIVED OUTSIDE 200 FEET.

THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.

SURROUNDING ZONING DESIGNATIONS INCLUDE C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, R FIVE, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT, AND C3 AND A GENERAL COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT.

THE CURRENT C TWO AND A COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND THE SURROUNDING AREA.

THE PROPOSED C TWO CD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR AUTO AND LIGHT TRUCK REPAIR IS ALSO APPROPRIATE.

THERE ARE SIMILAR USES WITHIN PROXIMITY AND THE PROPERTY IS APPROPRIATELY LOCATED ALONG A MINOR SECONDARY ARTERIAL THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE TRAFFIC.

THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE TO ADHERE TO THE PRESCRIBED SITE PLAN REQUIRED FOR CONDITIONAL USE ZONING AND ANY DEVIATION FROM THE APPROVED DOCUMENT COULD POTENTIALLY WARRANT ADDITIONAL COUNSEL CONSIDERATION.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

IF WE COULD HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT PLEASE.

GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES.

UM, I'M HERE REPRESENTATIVE MR. GALLEGOS.

MY NAME IS ROMERO DE LA CRUZ AND THIS IS IN REGARDS 2 64 0 7 WEST COMMON STREET.

UH, WE'RE HERE PREVIOUS, UH, NOW WE'RE ASKING TO, I GUESS TO DOWNSIZE IT.

UM, WE DID CHANGE A LOT ON THE PLANS AS FAR AS THE PARKING LOT AND WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH WHATEVER WE NEED TO TO GET THIS THROUGH.

UH, HE'S ALREADY INVESTED A LOT OF MONEY IN THE PROPERTY, SO BRAD, YOU'RE MERCY NOW, SO MOVING FORWARD.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? WE HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENT.

ALRIGHT.

UH, THIS IS THE DISTRICT 5K, SO TO YOU COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE FOR QUESTIONS.

ALRIGHT, SO, UH, MR. UH, DE LA CRUZ.

SORRY, JUST STAY UP HERE FOR A SECOND.

UM, NOW YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU HAD BEEN UP HERE BEFORE I REMEMBER THIS CASE BEFORE.

YES SIR.

SO CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH WHAT CHANGES WERE MADE? UM, FROM LAST TIME WE WANTED TO PUT IT WAS A TOW TRUCK RECOVERIES AND THE LIGHT MECHANIC WORK.

SO WE WANTED TO INCORPORATE BOTH OF 'EM TOGETHER SINCE IT WAS A LARGE AREA TO KEEP EVERYTHING.

SO NOW WE JUST HAVE IT AS A LAB

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MECHANIC AND IT'S NOT GONNA HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.

WE JUST HAVE FOUR PARKING SPACES, FOUR CARS THAT ARE GONNA BE SERVICED AND ALSO BE A CANOPY FOR WORK AREA AND A COUPLE OF PARKING SPOTS IN FRONT OF THE OFFICE.

AND THAT'S ABOUT IT.

ALRIGHT.

UH, YOU UNFORTUNATELY, UH, GOT STUCK WITH ONE OF MY RULES, WHICH IS ANYTIME WE HAVE LIGHT AUTO AND TRUCK REPAIR, YOU GET PULLED.

UH, SO I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.

UH, MR. CHAIR.

ALRIGHT, QUESTIONS? FELLOW COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.

SEE NONE.

COMMISSIONER'S ON MY RIGHT.

SEE? UH, WELL THAT WAS QUICK.

BACK TO YOU.

COMMISSIONER BUS MONTE.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH THERE YOU.

SO MR. DE LA CRUZ, UM, THANK YOU FOR WORKING THROUGH THIS AND THANK THE OWNER FOR WORKING THROUGH THIS AS WELL.

UM, YOU KNOW, UM, I'M GLAD, LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, DISTRICT FIVE HAS A GREAT DEAL AND A GREAT DENSITY OF, UH, LIGHT TRUCK AND AUTO REPAIR SHOPS, RIGHT? AND SO WHENEVER WE LOOK AT THIS KIND OF REZONING REQUEST, I WANNA BE VERY CAREFUL.

THAT BEING SAID, YOU DID A TREMENDOUS JOB WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, THANK YOU WORKING WITH OTHERS AROUND AND WORKING WITH THE STAFF, I PRESUME TO GET THIS AND ALSO DISTRICT FIVE, UH, REPRESENTATIVES TO GET THIS IN A POSITION FOR APPROVAL.

SO THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT WORK.

AND AT THIS TIME, MR. CHAIR, I MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER NINE.

SECOND.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

THERE IS A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER NINE WITH UH, RIGHT.

YEAH.

ITEM NUMBER NINE BY COMMISSIONER BUSANTE WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON.

UH, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER ON MY LEFT.

SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER ON MY RIGHT.

SEEING NONE.

ALRIGHT, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER BUSANTE.

AYE.

COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES.

COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES.

COMMISSIONER NOOSA? YES.

COMMISSIONER REYES? YES.

COMMISSIONER HUEY.

AYE.

COMM.

COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES.

COMMISSIONER WHITSETT? YES.

COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES.

CHAIR SIPES? YES.

MOTION PASSES.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

I BELIEVE ITEM NUMBER 18 IS NEXT.

IF WE COULD HAVE STAFF'S REPORT PLEASE.

THAT'S ME.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS SAMANTHA BEITA, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

ITEM NUMBER 18 IS LOCATED AT 8 1 5 EAST GRAYSON STREET GOING FROM IDZ THREE HIGH INTENSITY INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR 50 DWELLING UNITS TO MF 33 CD MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A NURSING FACILITY WITH ALL OVERLAY STAYING THE SAME.

THERE WERE 52 NOTICES SENT OUT.

THREE IN FAVOR, SIX OPPOSED GOVERNMENT HILL ALLIANCE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT AND THREE RESPONSES IN FAVOR WILL RECEIVED FROM OUTSIDE 200 FEET.

THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.

SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE ZONED O2 HIGH-RISE OFFICE DISTRICT R FOUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT MF 18 LIMITED DENSITY MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT R FIVE RESIDENTIAL MIXED DISTRICT AND MF 25 LOW DENSITY MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT.

THE EXISTING IDZ THREE HIGH INTENSITY INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE DISTRICT WITH USES PERMITTED FOR 50 DWELLING UNITS IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE PROPERTY IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.

THE PROPOSED MF 33 CD MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR A NURSING FACILITY IS ALSO APPROPRIATE.

THE REQUEST TO REZONE IS TO DEVELOP A NURSING FACILITY AND AN EXISTING STRUCTURE.

THE PROPERTY WAS PREVIOUSLY USED AS A NURSING AND REHABILITATION CENTER AND IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED TO ACCOMMODATE THE REQUESTED USE.

ADDITIONALLY, THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE TO ADHERE TO THE PRESCRIBED SITE PLAN AND ANY DEVIATION FROM THE APPROVED DOCUMENT COULD POTENTIALLY WARRANT ADDITIONAL COUNSEL CONSIDERATION.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ALRIGHT, IF WE CAN HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT PLEASE.

GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.

PATRICK CHRISTENSEN, THREE 15 EAST COMMERCE.

UH, AS STAFF STATED, WE'RE HERE TODAY FOR WHAT IS IN EFFECT A DOWN ZONING FROM IDZ THREE WITH 50 UNITS PER ACRE TO MF 33 WITH THE CONDITIONAL DISTRICT FOR A NURSING FACILITY.

SO I'M HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF SCOR WHO WOULD LIKE TO REHABILITATE THE EXISTING BUILDING FOR A REHAB FACILITY.

YOU KNOW, SOME CLIENTS WHEN THEY HIRE ME, THEY'RE KIND OF LIKE, WELL, LET'S NOT DO TOO MUCH OUTREACH.

LET'S JUST SEE WHEN WE GET THE NOTICES OUT, YOU KNOW, WHO'S, WHO'S IN OPPOSITION AND DEAL WITH THEM APPROPRIATELY WITH SCORRE.

THEY HAD ALREADY REACHED OUT TO THE COMMUNITY BEFORE I HAD EVEN BEEN HIRED.

SO WE HAVE MET WITH GOVERNMENT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, THE BOARD TWICE THE NEIGHBORHOOD FULL ASSOCIATION.

ONCE THEY GAVE US A SUPPORT LETTER.

WE'VE ALSO REACHED OUT TO A SUBGROUP OF GOVERNMENT HILL, THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE ON THE EAST SIDE OF NEW BRAUNFELS AND THEY'VE SENT IN SUPPORT LETTERS.

WE'VE SENT OUT A MAILER TO THE CONDO ASSOCIATION AT 8 2 5 EAST GRAYSON JUST TO MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTOOD WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO AND WE ALSO BLOCK WALKED THE, THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES BEHIND

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THE PROPERTY.

SO WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO EVERYONE WE CAN FIGURE OUT TO REACH OUT TO.

SO, UH, JUST TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT THE PROPOSED FACILITY, LIKE I SAID, IT'S A REHAB FACILITY.

I HAVE SENATE COURT HERE.

I HAVE MR. BILL BAILEY, WHO'S HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY DETAILED QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

BUT THAT'S BASICALLY THE CRUX OF OUR REQUEST AND WE WOULD HOPE YOU WOULD, UH, SUPPORT OUR REQUEST AND I WOULD LIKE JUST A SMIDGE OF REBUTTAL TIME AFTER THE CALLS.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER AND A FEW VOICEMAILS.

ALRIGHT, AND YOU'VE ALREADY CHECKED THE VOICEMAIL? I HAVEN'T.

YOU ALRIGHT? CORRECT.

ALRIGHT, UH, LET'S HEAR THE VOICEMAILS FIRST SINCE THAT SEEMS TO BE OUR TRADITION.

THANKS.

UH, I LIVE ON 3 1 5 B STREET SAN ANTONIO, 6 0 7 8 2 0 8 AND I'M CALLING, UH, JUST ON FAVOR OF, UH, WELL ALL THIS, UH, AND STUFF THAT'S GOING ON KIND OF, UH, CRAZY FOR US.

UM, I'M ON PRO OF, UH, NOT MAKING THINGS BIGGER AND PRODUCT, SO I'M IN FAVOR OF CASE NUMBER 2 4 7.

UH, YOU CAN REACH ME, I'LL GIVE YOU MY NUMBER AND THANKS FOR UNDERSTANDING.

WE WANT TO KEEP A NICE, CALM, QUIET IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THANK YOU.

HI, MY NAME IS ALESSANDRA NEWTON.

UM, MY CURRENT ADDRESS IS 2 3 3 CALLE PLACE 7 8 2 0 9.

BUT I AM A HOMEOWNER OF 9 4 2 EAST JOSEPH STREET.

UM, I'M CALLING ABOUT CASE NUMBER.

THE LAST THREE DIGITS ARE 2 4 7 CD.

IT'S, UM, EIGHT 15 EAST GRAYSON STREET.

UH, THERE'S A ZONING CHANGE REQUEST AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT I AM AGAINST THE REQUEST.

UM, WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING TO CHANGE IS NOT THE KIND OF DEVELOPMENT THAT WE WANT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE'RE HOPING FOR MORE, UM, YOU KNOW, MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL, UM, FOR FAMILIES AND YOUNG PEOPLE TO MOVE INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE'RE NOT REALLY LOOKING FOR ANY SORT OF TREATMENT CENTERS TO BE BUILT.

UM, WE'D ALSO LOVE TO HAVE MORE, UH, RESTAURANT AND RETAIL IN THE AREA, BUT WE ARE NOT LOOKING FOR TREATMENT CENTERS.

SO WE ARE DEFINITELY AGAINST THIS ZONING CHANGE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 818-2549.

THANK YOU COLIN NEWTON.

UM, I RECEIVED THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ZONING CHANGE REQUEST FOR 8 1 5 EAST BRAYSON FROM IDD THREE TO MF 33 WITH A, UH, NURSING HOME CONDITIONAL USE FOR NURSING HOME.

UM, I AM JUST BEHE AGAINST THAT USE, UH, ESPECIALLY SINCE THE, UH, TENANT OR THE BUSINESS IN QUESTION IS A ADULT DRUG, UH, ADULT DRUG ADDICTION FACILITY.

UH, WE'VE GOT SO MUCH CRIME ON, UH, THIS CORNER OF EAST GRAYSON.

TWO WEEKS AGO WE HAD A, A HIT, UM, UH, ON A, ON A CAR RIGHT BEHIND US AND SOMEBODY WAS SHOT 20 TIMES, UM, LITERALLY RIGHT BEHIND OUR TOWN HOMES.

SO WE DON'T NEED ANY OTHER USES LIKE THIS.

WE NEED A REAL THOUGHTFUL RESIDENTIAL HOUSING.

UM, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THAT'S APARTMENT, AN APARTMENT BUILDING, UM, OR TOWN HOMES.

BUT WE, WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE TREATMENT FACILITIES.

IT'S, IT'S DANGEROUS OVER HERE.

UM, PLEASE GIMME A CALL BACK, (210) 268-9880.

AGAIN, THIS IS COLIN NEWTON.

I LIVE AT NINE FOUR.

I OWN 9 4 2 EAST JOSEPHINE STREET.

THANKS, BYE.

HELLO, MY NAME IS DAK COLE AND MY ADDRESS IS 1 0 5 RENO STREET, 7 8 2 0 8 IN GOVERNMENT HILL REGARDING CASE NUMBER 2 4 7 AT 8 1 5 EAST GRAYSON STREET.

I COME BY THIS PROPERTY ALMOST DAILY, GOING TO WORK AT MY STORE AND COMING HOME.

I COMPLETELY SUPPORT THE REZONING OF THIS PROPERTY BACK TO WHAT IT WAS PREVIOUSLY ZONED.

SCO IS AN ESTABLISHED PROVEN PROGRAM AND A REMODEL AND REUSE OF THIS PROPERTY.

AND ITS EXISTING STRUCTURES AND FOOTPRINT ARE EXACTLY WHAT MORE DEVELOPMENT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IN SAN ANTONIO AT LARGE SHOULD BE DOING.

NEW EXPENSIVE VERTICAL CONDOS CLUSTERED ON SMALL, LOTS ON THE CUSP OF OUR, OF OUR HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD ARE THE LEAST NEEDED DEVELOPMENT.

PLEASE APPROVE THIS REZONING REQUEST.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION SAMANTHA.

MY NAME'S JORDAN FRANC.

UM, I LIVE AT 9 2 6 EAST JOSEPHINE, I'M CALLING YOU ABOUT THE PROPERTY ZONING PROPOSAL AT 8 1 5 EAST GRAYSON.

UM, I AM ADAMANTLY AGAINST, UH, THE ZONING CHANGE TO A REHAB FACILITY.

UM, I THINK THAT GOES AGAINST WHERE, UM, THE COMMUNITY IS GOING, UM,

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WITH THE TYPES OF PROPERTIES AND RESIDENTIAL.

UM, WE THAT HAS BEEN BEING BUILT, UM, AND IS GOING IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS.

I THINK IT WOULD HAVE SEVERELY NEGATIVE IMPACT ON, UH, PROPERTY VALUES.

I EVEN HAD A WAY DECLINED TO RENT MY PROPERTY BECAUSE OF, UM, THE AIDS CLINIC THAT'S NEXT DOOR ON GRAYSON STREET.

SO, UM, YEAH, I AGREE FIRMLY AGAINST THAT AND I THINK THE INTENT IS FOR MORE RESIDENTIAL TYPE USES.

UM, IF YOU DON'T MIND OR GIMME A CALL BACK, ONE FIVE TWO SEVEN EIGHT TWO FIVE ZERO ONE.

THANK YOU.

BYE.

LEAVING A MESSAGE FOR CASE Z DASH 2 47.

MY NAME IS SANDY, S-A-N-D-I, LAST NAME IS WOLF, W-O-L-F-F AND I'M CALLING CONCERNING THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST AT EIGHT 15 EAST GRAYSON.

I HAVE PROPERTY ON 8 25 EAST GRAYSON.

THOSE ARE THE TOWN HOMES.

AND I WOULD JUST WANT TO GO AHEAD AND SAY THAT I AM IN SUPPORT OF THE ZONE CHANGE REQUEST, UM, AT EIGHT 15 EAST GRAYSON STREET.

AGAIN, IT'S SANDY WOLF, CASE Z 2 47.

I AM IN, UM, SUPPORT OF THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S GONNA BE LOW IMPACT AND IS NOT GOING TO INCREASE THE UM, TRAFFIC IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

BYE-BYE.

HI, MY NAME IS STEVE STE, 1 0 5 RENO STREET.

I'M CALLING IN REGARDS TO CASE 2 47 AT EIGHT 15 EAST GRAYSON.

I AM, I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS ZONING DOWN TO MF 33 TO ALLOW THE USE OF THE EXISTING NURSING HOME STRUCTURE.

THE PREVIOUS REZONING WAS TWO INTENSE FOR THESE LOCAL STREETS AND THE OWNER FOUND NO ONE WILLING TO DEVELOP IT.

THE REUSE OF THE BUILDING FOR A LOW TRAFFIC USE IS WELCOME.

SCOR IS A GOOD COMPANY DOING ADMIRABLE WORK.

PLEASE CONSIDER RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.

THANK YOU.

THAT IS IT FOR VOICEMAILS AND WE HAVE MS, UH, CHERISE EGINE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

IF YOU CAN PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AND YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES.

THANK YOU.

MY NAME IS CHARRISE ROYAL LEGI.

UM, I'M THE CEO AT THE SAN ANTONIO AIDS FOUNDATION LOCATED DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET AT 8 1 8 EAST GRAYSON STREET.

AND WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF THIS REZONING BACK TOWARDS ITS ORIGINAL USE.

UM, SINCE ABOUT 1991 UNTIL JUST BEFORE THE PANDEMIC, IT WAS A NURSING HOME.

IT'S BEEN VACANT SINCE 2020, WHICH HAS BEEN A PROBLEM.

UH, IT GOT REZONED TO A HIGH INTENSITY IN FIELD DEVELOPMENT AND NOTHING HAPPENED, SO IT CONTINUES TO BE VACANT.

UM, RETURNING IT TO ITS ORIGINAL USE, WHICH IT HAD BEEN FOR 30 SOMETHING YEARS, UM, IS PROBABLY THE BEST USE FOR THAT SPACE.

IT'S LOW INTENSITY FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, I DO NOT LIVE IN GOVERNMENT HILL, BUT I LIVE IN THE LAVACCA AREA.

UH, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE LAVACCA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND A FORMER PLANNING COMMISSIONER.

UM, SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH, UH, DEVELOPING NEIGHBORHOODS AND SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE GOVERNMENT HILL FACE.

UM, I'M ALSO A STAUNCH, UH, RESIDENT NEIGHBORHOOD ADVOCATE.

UM, HAVING COME FROM LA VACA AND BEING NOW IN GOVERNMENT HILL FOR FOUR YEARS MYSELF AS THE CEO OF THE SAN ANTONIO AIDS FOUNDATION.

UM, SO I RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF CREATING A MIXED USE ENVIRONMENT OF BOTH RESIDENCES AND SERVICES THAT PROVIDE FOR THE COMMUNITY.

AND THIS IS A USE THAT WILL BE VERY IMPORTANT TO THAT COMMUNITY.

THE PEOPLE THAT WILL BE USING THAT FACILITY WILL NOT BE ON THE STREETS.

THEY'LL BE QUITE THE OPPOSITE OFF THE STREETS.

AND SO IT'S VERY MUCH A BENEFIT FOR THE AREA.

SO WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF OUR NEIGHBORS BECOMING, UH, THIS NURSING FACILITY.

THANK YOU.

AND THAT'S IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. CHRISTENSEN.

YES.

UM, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

I HAVE SENATE COURT HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT THEY ACTUALLY DO.

AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE THREE OPPOSITION CALLS YOU DID RECEIVE ARE TOWN HOME OWNERS, BUT THEY DON'T ACTUALLY LIVE THERE.

THEY'RE INVESTMENT PROPERTIES AND THEY'RE A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT LOTS OF APARTMENT DEVELOPMENT IN THE COMMUNITY.

THEY WANT THEIR INVESTMENT TO TO BE INCREASED, BUT THERE'S NOTHING TO STOP THIS FROM BEING RECONVERTED BACK TO APARTMENTS 15 YEARS FROM NOW.

BUT THE BUILDING SAT VACANT SINCE COVID AND WE THINK THIS IS A GOOD REUSE OF AN EXISTING FACILITY.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

THIS IS A DISTRICT TWO CASE, SO TO YOU COMMISSIONER WATSON FOR QUESTIONS, UH, JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, UH, IF I COULD HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE, I THINK SEVERAL OF YOU ARE HERE FROM SCO TO GIVE A BRIEF SUMMARY OF YOUR TREATMENT SCENARIO.

COMMISSIONERS COMMISSIONER WATSON.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MY NAME IS BILL BAILEY.

I'M THE PRESIDENT AND CEO FOR SCO FOUNDATION.

UH, WE'RE A LARGE NONPROFIT DRUG AND ALCOHOL TREATMENT, A BEHAVIORAL HEALTH PROGRAM.

UH, WE HAVE FACILITIES IN 10 OTHER CITIES AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN DOING SINCE THE MID SIXTIES.

UH, WE HAVE A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY

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TO COME TO COMMUNITY AND WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY.

I MYSELF WALKED THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND KNOCKED ON DOORS AND PASSED OUT OUR ANNUAL REPORT TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY KNEW EXACTLY WHO WE ARE AND WHAT WE DO.

UH, WE HAVE, UH, RESEARCHED A NUMBER OF OPPORTUNITIES AND FOUND THIS TO BE THE MOST APPROPRIATE OPPORTUNITY FOR THESE SERVICES.

WE WILL REDUCE THE NUMBER OF BEDS FROM 120 AS A NURSING HOME DOWN TO LESS THAN 90.

SO WE'LL REDUCE ANY IMPACT THAT WAS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE'LL ALSO BE EMPLOYING PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND SO WE WANT TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.

IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE, UH, ALMOST 70 YEARS WORTH OF EXPERIENCE AT WORKING WITH NEIGHBORHOODS AND WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND LOOK FORWARD TO BEING A POSITIVE IMPACT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND HELPING THE NEIGHBORHOOD MOVE FORWARD.

AND I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

UH, JUST ONE FOLLOW UP FOR YOU MR. BAILEY.

UM, CAN YOU PLEASE REMIND ME WHETHER YOUR PATIENTS ARE IN AND OUT OR THEY'RE INPATIENT ONLY? THEY ARE INPATIENT.

UH, WE'LL HAVE APPROXIMATELY BETWEEN THREE AND FIVE ADMISSIONS A DAY AND THREE TO FIVE DISCHARGES A DAY.

SO WE'RE A VERY LOW IMPACT NEIGHBOR.

OKAY.

FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM ME.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONER BRUTA, MONTE, UH, MR. CHRISTENSEN OR, OR MR. BAILEY? DEPENDING OR BOTH.

UM, YOU KNOW, ONE THING THAT WILL SORT OF IMPLIED, UH, FROM A LOT OF THE SUPPORT CALLS WAS THAT THIS BUILDING HAS SAT VACANT FOR FOUR YEARS, CORRECT? CORRECT.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, AS WE KNOW FREQUENTLY HAPPENS WITH VACANT BUILDINGS, PEOPLE GET IN THERE.

WHAT IS THE CURRENT STATE OF THE BUILDING? UM, I MEAN, BILL, IF YOU WANNA COME UP, I, I KNOW IT'S KINDA SURROUNDED BY CONCERTINA WIRE AND THE GO AHEAD BILL.

YEAH, WE HAVE TOURED THE BUILDING, UH, MULTIPLE TIMES.

WE'VE HAD OUR ENGINEER COME DOWN AND LOOK AT THE BUILDING.

WE HAVE HAD AN ONSITE INSPECTION OF THE BUILDING.

WE'VE ALREADY RETAINED ARCHITECTS AND HAVE STARTED PRELIMINARY DRAWINGS.

AND AS SOON AS THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVES THIS, WE'LL GO STRAIGHT INTO PURCHASING THE BUILDING BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR AND WE'LL START RENOVATIONS RIGHT AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR.

AND, AND SO NOW YOU'VE REACHED MY SECOND QUESTION, WHICH IS YOU DO PLAN TO RENOVATE THIS BUILDING? OH, YES SIR.

ONCE YOU, ONCE IT'S PURCHASED, YES.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WE CURRENTLY OWN OVER 400,000 SQUARE FEET OF BUILDINGS, SO WE HAVE A STRONG BACKGROUND IN THIS.

WE HAVE OVER 500 LICENSED BEDS IN TEXAS.

THIS WILL TAKE US UP TO 580 IN OUR DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. BAILEY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.

ALRIGHT, OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.

SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.

SEEING NONE.

UM, LET'S SEE.

COMMISSIONER WATSON ASKED THE, THE, THE BIG QUESTION THAT I HAD, AND THAT WAS WHETHER IT WAS AN INPATIENT OR OUTPATIENT.

SO BACK TO YOU COMMISSIONER WATSON FOR A MOTION.

YES.

AND COMMENTS OF WHICH I HAVE SEVERAL.

UH, THIS IS ONE OF MY RULES, WHICH IS WHY I PULLED THIS ONE.

UM, SO THIS IS ONCE AGAIN A CASE IN GOVERNMENT HEALTH AND, UH, THIS WAS A UNIQUE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD DYNAMIC, UM, BECAUSE THE PEOPLE THAT I GOT SOME QUESTIONS AND OPPOSITION FROM WAS NOT WHO I WAS EXPECTING.

UM, SO IN THIS CASE, UH, IT'S A, IT IS A DIFFICULT CASE AS MANY OF YOU'RE AWARE.

THIS IS A EVOLVING AREA, UH, IS THE WORD THAT I'LL CHOOSE TO USE.

AND THIS SEGMENT OF GRAYSON HAS SEVERAL RELATED TYPES OF FACILITIES AND BUILDINGS ON IT, BUT IS PROXIMATE TO BOTH HISTORIC HOMES, SOME MULTI-FAMILY THAT'S BEEN EMERGING AS WELL AS NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL RETAIL.

UM, PARTS OF THIS AREA ARE BECOMING A BIT OF A, I WOULDN'T SAY ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT, BUT A DESTINATION PLACE-BASED TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.

UM, AND SO WE HAVE A MIX OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE LIVED THERE A LONG TIME, PEOPLE WHO ARE VISITING BECAUSE THERE'S A GROWING HOSPITALITY FOOTPRINT, UM, AND OF COURSE THE DYNAMICS OF THE GOVERNMENT HILL COMMUNITY.

UM, JUST FOR THE RECORD, AGAIN, THERE ARE TWO ASSOCIATIONS.

ONE OF THEM A COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION, ONE A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, BOTH VALID, BOTH COMPLYING WITH ALL REGISTRATION REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY.

UH, BOTH ARE SEPARATE AND HAVE EQUAL RIGHTS.

BOTH OF THEM, UH, MET ON THIS PROJECT.

AND, UH, EXPRESSED SUPPORT OR MEMBERS EXPRESSED SUPPORT.

UH, THIS IS A UNIQUE CASE BECAUSE WHILE THE AREA IS EVOLVING, UM, THIS IS AN EXISTING STRUCTURE FACILITY.

IT IS A DIFFICULT SITE TO DEVELOP AND UH, THIS IS BASICALLY STILL PERMITTING POTENTIAL FUTURE USE.

THE DOWN ZONE IS STILL INCLUDES AN MF 33 THOUGH THERE'S PROTECTIONS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD APPRECIATED FROM THE CD.

UM, BUT IS GOING TO ENSURE THAT A CURRENTLY VACANT STRUCTURE THAT IS CREATING SOME CHALLENGES IS NO LONGER VACANT.

UM, THE PREVIOUS REZONING, UH, WHICH IS ANOTHER REASON I PULLED IT, SEVERAL COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE HERE WERE PART OF THAT PROCESS, UM, TOOK ALMOST A YEAR TO DO.

UM, INITIALLY THERE WAS, UM, A PLAN TO DO A TRADITIONAL APARTMENT COMPLEX TYPE OF DESIGN AND IT HAD BEEN EVOLVED TO TOWN HOMES, WHICH WASN'T PARTICULARLY VIABLE, BUT DID SORT OF MEET SOME NEIGHBORHOOD PREFERENCES.

UM, AND, UH, SPECIFICALLY OF THE TOWN HOMEOWNERS, SOME OF WHOM YOU HEARD FROM ON THE CALLS TODAY.

UM, I THINK IN THE, THE INTEREST OF WANTING TO MAKE SURE SPACES ARE ACTIVATED AND USED AND THAT

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THERE'S NEIGHBORHOOD SUPPORT FOR THOSE EVOLVING USES AND THAT THIS, UH, PROPOSAL IS WITH A RESPONSIBLE, PROVEN, UM, APPLICANT WHO IS WILLING TO FOLLOW OUR PROCEDURE IN DISTRICT TWO IS TO REQUIRE THAT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AHEAD OF TIME, ESPECIALLY IN THIS AREA.

UM, YOU SHOULD MEET WITH YOUR COMMUNITY AND NEIGHBORS AHEAD OF TIME, NOT AFTERWARDS AND HOPE THAT THEY'RE GONNA PASS IT.

UH, WHICH I'LL JUST ONCE AGAIN HAMMER THAT HOME.

UM, AND, YOU KNOW, SAY, WELL PLEASE GIVE ME, YOU KNOW, FORGIVENESS, NOT PERMISSION.

UM, THIS COLLABORATIVE PROCESS IS SOMETHING WE ENCOURAGE, ESPECIALLY IN THIS AREA AND APPRECIATE, UH, THE APPLICANT INDEPENDENTLY CHOOSING TO DO THAT BEFORE THEY EVEN HIRED REPRESENTATION.

UM, I DID MEET WITH MR. BAILEY WELL BEFORE THEY FILED IN ADDITION TO HIM HAVING MET WITH THE COMMUNITY AHEAD OF TIME.

UM, AND SO FOR THOSE REASONS I'M GOING TO, UM, SUPPORT THE MOTION IN PART BECAUSE THE REQUEST IS FOR MF 33 CD.

SO WHILE SOMEBODY WOULD HAVE TO REZONE AGAIN, IT STILL IS PROVIDING THAT PROTECTION SHOULD THE NEIGHBORHOOD EVOLVE AND HOUSING BE SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE THAT'S NEEDED.

UM, BUT IN THE MEANTIME IT DOES PROVIDE NEEDED SERVICES WITH A PROVEN PROVIDER AND IS, UH, REUSE THAT IS RESPONSIBLE OF AN EXISTING STRUCTURE.

THANK YOU.

I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.

ALRIGHT, THERE'S A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER WATSON WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARTOS DISCUSSION.

COMMISSIONER ON MY LEFT.

COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.

I'M SEEING NONE.

ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES.

COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES.

COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES.

COMMISSIONER OSA? YES.

COMMISSIONER REYES? YES.

COMMISSIONER BUSANTE.

AYE.

COMMISSIONER HUEY AYE.

COMMISSIONER WIT? YES.

COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES.

CHAIR SIPES? YES.

MOTION PASSES.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

UH, THE TIME IS 3 0 2 AND THIS IS OUR USUAL TIME TO TAKE A QUICK FIVE 10 MINUTE BREAK.

SO WE WILL STAND IN RECESS I GUESS FOR 10 MINUTES.

TIME IS THREE 15 AND THE ZONING COMMISSION IS BACK AND WE WILL BE MOVING ON TO ITEM 19 I BELIEVE.

SO IF WE COULD HAVE STAFF'S PRESENTATION PLEASE.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

ALEXA ANO ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

ITEM NUMBER 19 IS LOCATED AT 1 9 1 7 5 TRUMBO ROAD GOING FROM FR FARM AND RANCH DISTRICT TO RE RESIDENTIAL STATE DISTRICT WITH ALL OVERLAYS STAYING THE SAME.

THERE WERE 17 NOTICES SENT OUT.

ONE IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED WITHIN 200 FEET.

NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND OUTSIDE THE 200 FEET THERE IS NO RESPONSE.

THE EXISTING FR FARM AND RANCH DISTRICT IS APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.

THE PROPOSED RE RESIDENTIAL STATE DISTRICT IS NOT THE EXISTING FR ZONING PRESERVES AGRICULTURAL AREAS AND IS MORE SENSITIVE TO MAINTAINING A MINIMAL NUMBER OF DWELLINGS AND ACCESSORY STRUCTURES.

ABUTTING PROPERTIES ARE DE DESIGNATED AS RP RESOURCE PROTECTION DISTRICT AND FR FARM AND RANCH DISTRICT, BOTH OF WHICH IMPLEMENT LARGER MINIMUM LOT SIZES, MINIMUM LOT SIZES BEING 10 ACRES AND 25 ACRES RESPECTIVELY.

THUS THE PROPOSED BASE ZONING DISTRICT WOULD PERMIT A DENSITY OUT OF CHARACTER WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.

STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT PLEASE.

YES, MR. CHAIR COMMISSIONERS CAROLINE MCDONALD WITH BROWN AND MCDONALD.

100 NORTHEAST LOOP FOUR 10 HERE, UH, BEFORE YOU ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER, UH, ON TRUMBO ROAD, THIS IS A DISTRICT THREE CASE AND THE PROPERTY IS NORTHEAST OF 1604 AND TRUMBO NEXT TO PLEASANTON ROAD.

UM, HERE, UH, YOU COULD SEE THE PROPERTY, IT'S ABOUT 24 25 ACRES.

THERE IS ONE, UH, EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE ON THE PROPERTY AT THIS TIME.

UM, THE PROPERTY OWNERS WOULD LIKE TO REZONE THE PROPERTY SO THAT THEY COULD BUILD, UH, THREE ADDITIONAL HOMES ON THE PROPERTY FOR THEIR, FOR THEIR CHILDREN.

UM, AS STAFF INDICATED, THE PROPERTY IS ZONED FARM AND RANCH, UH, THERE ARE A FEW, UH, RESOURCE PROTECTION, UH, IN THE AREA, UM, BUT LARGELY, UH, ALSO OCL.

UM, THERE IS A PLAN AMENDMENT COMPONENT TO THIS, UH, PARTICULAR CASE.

HOWEVER, WE, WE DID NOT MAKE THE OCTOBER 23RD AGENDA FOR PLANNING COMMISSION, SO WE DO GO NEXT WEEK.

UM, SO AGAIN, WE ARE REQUESTING RESIDENTIAL ESTATE SO THAT THE, UH, THE FAMILY CAN BUILD ADDITIONAL HOUSES FOR THEIR CHILDREN.

UM, AGAIN, UH, THE PLAN AMENDMENT WILL BE FROM COUNTRY TIER TO RURAL ESTATE TIER.

UH, IT'S IN THE HERITAGE SOUTH SECTOR PLAN.

THE FAR SOUTHWEST WEST PLAN HAS NOT BEEN ADOPTED YET.

UM, SO YES, THE PROPERTY

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IS WITHIN THAT ICOD OVERLAY, I BELIEVE ZONE B UH, THAT CAME BEFORE YOU BUT DIDN'T QUITE MAKE IT TO COUNCIL.

UM, AND SO, UH, YOU CAN SEE THE PROXIMITY TO THE LARGE INDU INDUSTRIAL PLANT, UH, THERE IN THE CENTER OF THE OVERLAY.

UM, AND SO, UM, I BELIEVE THAT IS, UH, LARGELY WHY THE RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL AS THAT WOULD'VE PROHIBITED ANY DWELLINGS.

UM, SO WE ACTUALLY, UM, AMENDED TO OUR 20 BECAUSE IT WAS MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT THE PROPERTY OWNERS WERE, WERE TRYING TO BUILD.

UM, AND THIS IS JUST KIND OF THE LOT DIMENSIONS ALLOWABLE DENSITY, UH, IN THE CODE.

AND, AND THE R 20 WAS THE MOST, AGAIN, MOST IN LINE WITH WHAT, UH, THE TWO PROPERTY OWNER OR THE FAMILY WAS TRYING TO DO.

UM, HERE IS THE SITE PLAN.

YOU CAN SEE IT'S LARGE LOT, UH, SEPARATE HOMES FOR THE FA THE CHILDREN.

UM, AND THIS IS THE EXISTING HOUSE AND YOU CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTY IN THE BACK AND, AND WHAT'S AROUND IT.

SO WITH THAT, WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST, UH, YOUR APPROVAL OF THIS CASE AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? WE HAVE A VOICEMAIL.

ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HEAR THAT PLEASE.

DAVID TINO 5 9 6 MANN ROADS.

ANTONIO, TEXAS.

I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT OF STARBRITE OVERLOOK SOUTH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

THIS IS REGARDING CASE Z 20 24 1 0 7 0 0 2 5 0.

LOCATED AT 1 9 1 7 5 TRUMBO ROAD.

UH, ITEM NUMBER 19 ON THE LIST TODAY, UH, WE SOSA SUPPORTS THE, UH, REQUEST A CHANGE FROM FARM AND RANCH TO RESIDENTIAL ESTATE.

THE ASSOCIATION FILLS THIS CASE IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE CITY IMPOSING THEIR UNFAIR AND UNNECESSARY RESTRICTIONS ON RESIDENTIAL BUILDING IN THE TOYOTA STAR BY EXCLUSION ZONE.

THE PROPERTY HAS HISTORICALLY BEEN USED AS A RESIDENTIAL ESTATE, THE CURRENT RESIDENCE BUILT IN 1925.

THE FAMILY IS SIMPLY ASKING FOR PARTITION THE PROPERTY FOR DISTRIBUTION TO FAMILIES SO THEY CAN BUILD THREE MORE HOMES.

THE NEW HOMES AT NECESSARY INFRASTRUCTURE AFFECT ONLY 1.55% OF THE TOTAL PROPERTY AREA.

A MAJORITY 98.45% OF THE LAND WILL REMAIN OPEN LAND.

ADDING THREE FAMILY HOMES TO THIS PROPERTY WILL NO WAY IMPACT FARMING OR RANCHING OPERATIONS ON LAND ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY.

THE ADDITION OF THREE SMALL HOMES EACH ON AN AT LEAST SIX ACRES WILL IN NO WAY, NO OBVIOUS WAY, CONFLICT WITH THE NATURAL AND CULTURAL RESOURCES, NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER OR ECONOMIC VIABILITY OF THE LAND IN THE AREA.

WE OFFER A FULL SUPPORT FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER'S USE OF THEIR LAND FOR THIS PURPOSE, WE FEEL IS A RIGHT THEY POSSESS THEY SHOULD NOT BE REASONABLY UNREASONABLY RESTRICTED BY THE CITY OR ANY OTHER ENTITY LIKE TOYOTA.

THANK YOU.

AND THAT'S IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MS. MCDONALD, DID YOU WANNA RESPOND TO THAT OR NO? ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THIS IS A DISTRICT THREE CASE, SO TO YOU COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA FOR QUESTIONS.

YES.

COUPLE QUESTIONS.

UH, ONE FOR STAFF.

JUST KIND OF REMIND ME, UH, AGAIN, WHY ARE WE, UH, WHY ARE YOU GUYS RECOMMENDING DENIAL? WE ARE JUST STAYING TRUE TO THE, UM, THE LAND USE IN THE EXISTING LAND USE IN THE AREA AND THE FACT THAT ALL OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE FARM AND RANCH.

AND SO THAT IS JUST STAFF'S POSITION IS THAT THIS AREA WAS MADE FOR THAT TYPE OF ACTIVITY AND SINGLE FAMILY, YOU KNOW, THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THERE.

SO THEY, THEY DO GET THE ONE, THE ISSUE IS THAT THEY CAN'T PLA FOR THE OTHER, THE OTHER HOMES.

OKAY.

AND, UH, A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, JUST CURIOUS, IS THE FAMILY HERE? THEY, THEY'RE NOT HERE.

OH, GOTCHA.

THEY'RE OUT VOTING ? YEAH.

UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE WHAT AGAIN? YOU SAID THEY'RE VOTING TODAY? OH, THEY'RE VOTING, YES.

YES.

DID YOU SMELL THAT? IT'S CALLED DEMOCRACY .

UM, JUST, UH, I GUESS A QUESTION.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE SUBDIVIDED AND IS IT GONNA BE, IS IT GONNA BE SOLD TO, WELL, A IS IT GONNA BE SOLD TO THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS, NOT DEED DEEDED TO THE FAMILY MEMBERS? YES.

DEED TO THE FAMILY MEMBERS.

OKAY.

MM-HMM.

.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, AND THEN LIKE WE SAW ON THE MAP THERE, IT'S GONNA BE DIVIDED TO FOUR MM-HMM.

.

UM, WHAT WAS THE, CAN YOU PULL UP THE SITE PLAN REAL QUICK? YEAH.

WHAT'S THE TOTAL ACREAGE PER 'CAUSE IT'S WHAT, 20? IT VARIES.

YEAH.

SO THE TOTAL LOT IS ABOUT 25 ACRES AND EACH LOT WOULD VARY BETWEEN SIX, SEVEN ACRES PER, PER HOME.

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OKAY.

OKAY.

I THINK THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE SO FAR.

OKAY.

SO I'LL OPEN IT UP.

ALL RIGHT.

QUESTIONS COMM, COMMISSIONER REYES, VERY QUICK QUESTION.

JUST TO THE EAST IF WE CAN GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS YEAH, JUST TO THE EAST ACROSS TRUMBO.

WHAT ARE THOSE? RESIDENTIAL? I BELIEVE THEY'RE RESIDENTIAL.

YEAH.

IT SEEMS TO BE RESOURCE PROTECTION OVER THERE.

UH, I'M NOT AWARE OF THE THE PROPERTY OWNERS THOUGH.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER? SETTLEMENT? YES, COMMISSIONER.

YOU KNOW, SORRY, I JUST HAD ONE POPPED UP.

UM, IS THERE CITY CONNECTIONS FOR, IS IT GONNA BE SEPTIC TANK OR SEPTIC OR IS IT GONNA BE UH, WATER? I BELIEVE THERE IS A SEPTIC TANK, UH, ON SITE, SO IT MOST LIKELY THERE WILL BE A, A ADDITIONAL, UM, IF THERE IS ADDITIONAL CAPACITY.

SO THERE'S NO CITY WATER OR I DO NOT BELIEVE SO.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.

NONE.

COMMISSIONER ON MY LEFT.

COMMISSIONER WITT GET WRONG, BUT , UM, I THINK THIS IS A, A LOGICAL AND GOOD USE OF THE PROPERTY.

MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.

UM, AND YOU DID MENTION THE TOYOTA THING, BUT HAVE Y'ALL, UH, ACTUALLY GOTTEN THEIR PERMISSION TO DO THIS SINCE THEY STILL HAVE THAT PURVIEW? I HAVE NOT BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THEM.

ALRIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.

ALRIGHT.

I DID HAVE A QUESTION AND I SAW ON ONE OF YOUR SLIDES YOU MENTIONED R 20 IS MM-HMM.

.

SO, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT RE IS OR WE WERE JUST COMPARING THE DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICTS THAT WERE, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD ALLOW, YOU KNOW, BREAKING IT UP, BUT NOT SOMETHING LIKE R FOUR.

I GOTCHA.

OKAY.

MM-HMM.

.

BUT, BUT THE REQUEST IS FOR RE YES.

AND IF I MISSTATED THAT, I APOLOGIZE.

.

NO, I WAS LIKE, HAD NOT HAD MY THIRD CUP OF COFFEE YET.

, AND SO I SAW THAT AND IT CONFUSED ME.

UM, ALRIGHT, BACK TO YOU COMMISSIONER HOSA FOR A MOTION.

UH, BEFORE I MAKE THE MOTION, WHAT, HOW LONG HAVE THEY OWNED THE PROPERTY? UH, UH, I DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION, BUT SEVERAL, SEVERAL YEARS.

OKAY.

I KNOW THE EXACT GOT IT.

UH, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION.

I'M, I, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, THIS IS PROPERTY THE FAMILY BOUGHT, YOU KNOW, I'M ASSUMING THEY'RE GONNA WANT THEIR KIDS.

LIKE, I WOULD WANT MY KIDS TO HAVE PROPERTY THAT I OWNED.

I DON'T THINK THIS IS AN EXCESSIVE USE OF RESIDENTIAL.

I KNOW THERE'S NOT MUCH RESIDENTIAL IN THERE YET.

OR I MEAN, ACROSS THE STREET, LIKE, LIKE COMMISSIONER REYES BROUGHT UP, I THINK THERE'S SOME HOUSING THERE.

SO I'M GONNA MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, UH, OR I GUESS MY OFFICIAL, UM, WHAT'S THE WORD? WELL, IT'S NOT APPROVAL MOTION.

THERE WE GO.

I'M SORRY.

MY OFFICIAL MOTION WOULD BE TO, UH, APPROVE, UH, OR TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR THIS, UH, ZONING CHANGE.

SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER HENO HOSA WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON.

DISCUSSION COMMISSION ON MY RIGHT.

SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.

SEEING NONE.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, I'M TRYING TO, OKAY.

NO, I'M, UH, I'M DONE.

I'M SORRY.

I WAS TRYING TO THINK MY, MY, I I I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION PRIMARILY BECAUSE UM, I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, RESOURCE PROTECTION.

YES.

THAT'S 10 ACRE LOTS.

THIS IS IN MY OPINION, UH, VERY MINOR INCREASE IN DENSITY BECAUSE EACH OF THE LOTS ARE GONNA BE FIVE, SIX ACRES.

SO THAT'S STILL, UM, PRETTY WELL THE EXISTING IS FR SO THAT'S 25 ACRES THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S TRUE.

THAT'S TRUE.

GOOD POINT.

GOOD POINT.

BUT I AM COMPARING IT TO LIKE WHAT'S ACROSS THE STREET IN A, IN AND AROUND THE AREA.

BUT THE YES.

POINT TAKEN, UH, MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL.

ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER OSA? YES.

COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES.

COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES.

COMMISSIONER REYES? YES.

COMMISSIONER BUSANTE.

AYE.

COMMISSIONER HUEY AYE.

COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES.

COMMISSIONER WIT? YES.

COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES.

CHAIR SIPES? YES.

MOTION PASSES.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

UM, ITEM NUMBER 22.

IF WE COULD HAVE STAFF'S REPORT PLEASE.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS ELLA GOLDEZ, SENIOR PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

ITEM NUMBER 22 IS LOCATED AT 11 0 8 SOUTH FLORIDA STREET.

GOING FROM IDZ INFO DEVELOPMENT ZONE WITH USES PERMITTED IN MF 18 LIMITED DENSITY MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT TO IDZ

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ONE.

LIMITED INTENSITY, INTENSITY INFO DEVELOPMENT ZONE WITH USES PERMITTED IN OH ONE OFFICE DISTRICT AND SELF STOR, SELF-SERVICE STORAGE.

THERE WERE 65 NOTICES SENT OUT.

ONE IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED KING WILLIAM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION DID NOT PROVIDE A RESPONSE.

STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.

THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND SURROUNDING AREA.

GIVEN THE MIX OF COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL WITHIN DIRECT PROXIMITY, THE PROPOSED ZONING AND USE ALIGNS WITH THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.

ADDITIONALLY, THE PROPOSED OFFICE USE WITH STORAGE IS APPROPRIATE ALONG SOUTH FLORIDA STREET, A SECONDARY MATERIAL WHICH CAN ACCOMMODATE HIGHER TRAFFIC.

AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

IF WE COULD HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT PLEASE, YOU CAN START ON.

OH, I CAN DO IT TOO.

PERFECT.

GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONER CHAIRMAN, THIS IS EMILY WEISLER.

SORRY, I DUNNO WHY I SAID THIS IS, UM, I AM EMILY WEISLER WITH KILLING GRIFFIN AND THANK YOU.

THAT'D BE GREAT.

UH, WITH KILLING GRIFFIN AND FAIRMAN 1 0 1 0 1 REUNION PLACE SUITE TWO 50 HERE ON BEHALF OF THE OWNER.

UM, SO THE PROPERTY IS, UH, AS ADDRESSED AT 1108 SOUTH FLORES.

IT IS JUST NORTHEAST OF HERE, SO STONES THROW AWAY FROM THE ONE STOP.

UM, THIS IS AN EXISTING BUILDING, UM, FORMERLY THE SOO CROSSFIT.

UM, THIS PROPERTY IS HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT, UM, AND CURRENTLY NOT OCCUPIED.

UM, PRIOR TO, SO THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED THE OLD PRE 7 20 17 IDZ.

PRIOR TO THAT, UM, ITS ORIGINAL ZONING WAS J COMMERCIAL, THEN IT WAS C3 AND A, UM, SO PRIOR TO THE MULTIFAMILY COMPONENT, UM, THAT IS ALLOWED ON THE PROPERTY NOW, IT HAS HISTORICALLY ALWAYS BEEN A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.

UM, THIS PROPERTY WAS BUILT, UM, IN AROUND 1940, AGAIN, HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT.

UM, AND WE ARE PROPOSING TO CHANGE THE ZONING TO IDZ ONE TO ALLOW FOR OFFICE AND SELF-SERVICE STORAGE, UM, AND AN ATTEMPT TO PROVIDE FOR ADAPTIVE REUSE, UM, AND PRESERVATION OF THIS EXISTING BUILDING.

UM, THIS IS WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN AREA REGIONAL CENTER PLAN.

IT IS NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE.

UM, AND I'LL SHOW YOU A MAP OF IN A SECOND, BUT THAT IS CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE, UM, ALL ALONG SOUTH FLORES.

UM, BUT THE GOAL HERE IS TO PRESERVE AND REHAB THAT EXISTING BUILDING.

THERE'S A BETTER ZOOMED IN MAP OF THE ZONING.

YOU CAN SEE THERE'S AN ALLEYWAY BEHIND THE PROPERTY, UM, WHICH PROVIDES FOR TRAFFIC FLOW AND ACCESS, BUT ALSO SEPARATES US FROM THE RESIDENTIAL PART OF THE NATHAN HISTORIC DISTRICT.

THIS IS IN THE NATHAN HISTORIC DISTRICT.

SO IN ADDITION TO BEING HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, IT'S ALSO IN A RIO OVERLAY.

SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE OFFICE OF HIS HISTORIC PRESERVATION ON THIS PROPERTY FOR, UM, THE REHABILITATION OF THIS BUILDING.

THIS IS A FULLY BUILT, I'M GONNA ZOOM BACK IN.

THIS IS A FULLY BUILT STRUCTURE.

UM, THE ENTIRE PROPERTY IS FULLY DEVELOPED, SO IN ORDER TO DO ANY SORT OF STRUCTURAL CHANGES, WHICH WE ARE NOT PROPOSING, THAT WOULD REQUIRE DEMOLITION OF THIS HISTORIC BUILDING, WHICH WE ARE NOT PURSUING, UM, WE'RE IN COORDINATION WITH OHP FOR PRESERVATION OF THE ENTIRE BUILDING.

THIS IS THAT LAND USE MAP THAT SHOWS THE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE.

YOU CAN SEE THAT TREND ALONG THIS SIDE OF SOUTH FLORES URBAN MIXED USE, SLIGHTLY HIGHER INTENSITY IN THE OTHER SIDE.

UM, AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE, THE LOWER LEFT HAND CORNER, THAT IS WHERE WE ARE NOW.

THIS IS THE SITE PLAN, UM, THAT SHOWS THE OFFICE AND STORAGE USE.

THERE'S A COMPONENT OF THE BUILDING THAT IS EXISTING THAT HAS A WAREHOUSE STRUCTURE, WHICH WOULD BE UTILIZED FOR THAT SELF STORAGE.

UM, BUT AGAIN, THE GOAL HERE IS THE PRESERVATION AND REHABILITATION OF THIS EXISTING BUILDING WITH A LOW INTENSITY USE.

SOMETHING THAT DOES NOT DRIVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC, UM, AS WE HAVE SEEN IN A VARIETY OF CASES AND A VARIETY OF PROPERTIES.

MULTIFAMILY TENDS TO BE A TRAFFIC GENERATOR.

SO REMOVING THAT RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT FROM THE PROPERTY, RESTORING IT BACK TO ITS HISTORICALLY ACCURATE COMMERCIAL USE.

UM, BUT DOING IT WITH OFFICE AND SELF STORAGE, WHICH ARE HISTORICALLY THE LEAST TRAFFIC GENERATING USES, UM, THAT YOU CAN HAVE IN A BUILDING, UM, REDUCES THE NEED FOR INCREASED PARKING.

UM, WE CANNOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE ENTIRE PROPERTY IS BUILT, UM, AND HAS BEEN BUILT SINCE 1940.

UM, BUT THERE IS AMPLE PARKING AND THIS AREA IS DESIGNED FOR THAT WITH ADDITIONAL ON STREET PARKING.

SO, UM, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT TODAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

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ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? WE DO.

UM, WE DON'T HAVE ANY VOICEMAILS, BUT WE DO HAVE SOME SPEAKERS SIGNED UP.

UM, FIRST SPEAKER WE HAVE IS MR. RAUL LAN, AND HE WILL BE FOLLOWED BY MS. CHRISTINE SINGA? I THINK SO.

HELLO LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

UM, I'M RAUL LAN.

I RESIDE AT ONE 11, DANIEL, UM, JUST NEXT DOOR TO THE PROPERTY.

UM, WE HAVE A VARIETY OF ISSUES OF ISSUES ALREADY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC.

WE HAVE BUSINESSES IN THIS AREA.

UM, WE GOT THE OFFICES HERE.

UM, PEOPLE WHO COME TO THESE MEETINGS LIKE TODAY OR WORK DAY TO DAY TEND TO PARK IN OUR STREETS.

AND YOU GUYS DO HAVE PARKING.

WE HAVE CAM STREET RESTAURANT THAT HAVE PARKING, BUT THEN TEND TO PARK IN OUR STREETS.

AND WE'RE DEALING WITH A BUSINESS THAT HAS ZERO PARKING.

WHERE ARE THEY GONNA PARK? THE ISSUE WITH THIS IS THE TRAFFIC, THE CONGESTION.

WE HAVE A LOT OF ELDERLY PEOPLE WHO ARE ON DISABILITY THAT HAVE BEEN LIVING ALL THEIR LIVES.

HOW ARE THEY GONNA PARK IN FRONT OF THEIR HOMES? HOW ARE THEY GONNA KI UM, WALK TO THEIR HOMES? UM, SOME OF THE, THE, THE, THE ISSUES WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS THAT PEOPLE PARK IN OUR DRIVEWAYS, THEY BLOCK OUR DRIVEWAYS.

UH, THEY, THEY BLOCK OUR ALLEYS.

UM, A LOT OF OUR RESIDENTS DON'T HAVE DRIVEWAYS, SO THEIR ONLY WAY TO PARK IS IN, IN FRONT OF THEIR HOMES.

UM, YOU KNOW, UP, WE HAVE SEVERAL RESIDENTS THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, THE BUSINESSES HERE HAVE PARKING MAJORITY OF THE BUSINESS, AND YOU'RE GONNA DEAL WITH THE BUSINESS THAT'S GONNA USE IT FOR OFFICE SPACE.

THEY'RE GONNA USE IT FOR A WAREHOUSE SPACE.

WHERE ARE THE TRUCKS THAT ARE GONNA BE MOVING? THE MOVING TRUCKS GONNA BE PARKING.

WHERE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GONNA BE WORKING DAY TO DAY IN THE OFFICES AND THE VISITORS VISITING THE OFFICE? WHERE ARE THEY GONNA PARK? SO EVERY, WE GOT ABOUT FOUR STREETS.

WE GOT SWEET STREET, WE GOT DANIEL STREET, WE GOT RICHIE STREET, WE GOT NATHAN STREET.

OH, I'M SORRY.

FIVE STREETS, GUNTHER STREET.

ALL THESE STREETS HAVE PARKING ISSUES.

THEY ALL HAVE CONGESTION ISSUES.

SO I'LL, I'LL LEAVE IT AT THIS.

A BUSINESS THAT DOES NOT HAVE ITS OWN DESIGNATED PARKING WITHIN ITS RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD FORCES, PUBLIC PARKING WITHIN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS WILL CAUSE VALUE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO GO DOWN DUE TO OVERPOPULATED PARKING, NOT BY ITS OWN RESIDENTS.

THIS HURTS THE COMMUNITY WITHIN, AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH DAY TO DAY.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

NEXT WE HAVE MS. CHRISTINE SINGA TO BE FOLLOWED BY MR. JARED KILLIAN.

THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME.

MY NAME IS CHRISTINE SINGA AND I LIVE AT 1 2 6, DANIEL, WHICH IS, THERE YOU GO.

THANK YOU.

I I WAS FEELING TALL.

.

UM, ANYWAYS, AS UL WAS MENTIONING, WE ARE VERY CONCERNED.

ONE OF MY FIRST CONCERNS IS WE FEEL LIKE THERE'S BEEN A LACK OF TRANSPARENCY.

WE'VE HEARD TODAY THAT OFFICES IN STORAGE, BUT THEN WE'VE ALSO HEARD A POSSIBLE GYM AND ALL THESE OTHER THINGS.

SO SOME OF IT IS JUST THE LACK OF TRANSPARENCY AND, AND WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO GO UP THERE.

HOPEFULLY TODAY WE'VE GOTTEN THAT INFORMATION, BUT IT ALSO TALKED ABOUT, UM, THAT IT MIGHT CHANGE LATER ON.

SO, SO WE DON'T KNOW AS RESIDENTS, WE ARE ALSO CONCERNED BECAUSE WE'VE TRIED TO CALL, UH, THE ZONING NUMBER AND EITHER THE NUMBER WASN'T UP FOR, UH, MESSAGES, NEVER GOT CALLED BACK, OR JUST DIDN'T ANSWER.

SO AGAIN, LACK OF TRANSPARENCY.

WE WANT, UH, WE LOVE LIVING DOWNTOWN.

WE LOVE THE BUSINESSES.

WE EMBRACE THE COMMUNITY.

I WALK MY DOG EVERY SINGLE DAY AND I GO BY THE BARBERSHOP.

I GO BY THE, OUR, OUR COLLECTIVE.

IT'S NOT THAT IT'S, IT'S NOT THAT WE DON'T WANT BUSINESSES, BUT WE WANT BUSINESSES TO BE TRANSPARENT AND WE ALSO WANT TO WORK IN COMMUNION WITH THEM.

AND RIGHT NOW WITH THE PARKING SITUATION, WE JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.

UM, I LIVE AT THE END OF DANIEL, THE FIRST LITTLE BLOCK, AND MY HOUSE IS, WAS BUILT IN 1905 AS A HISTORIC HOME, AS A HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD.

YOU ALL KNOW HOW EXPENSIVE IT IS FOR US TO DO ANYTHING IN OUR HOUSE, IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

WHAT'S THAT GONNA DO? OUR STREETS ARE CONSTANTLY HAVING, UH, BIG PUDDLES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE JUST GOT AFTER ABOUT 15 YEARS,

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UH, CURBS, WE'VE ASKED FOR CURBS FOR SO LONG.

AND WITH ALL THIS TRAFFIC COMING AND GOING, NOT JUST WITH THIS NEW BUILDING, BUT WITH ALL THE OTHER BUILDINGS THAT I WILL MENTION, OUR LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD IS GOING TO SUFFER.

UM, WE ALSO HAVE TROUBLE WITH SAFETY.

THANK YOU.

RIGHT, THANK YOU.

NEXT WE HAVE MR. JARED KILLIAN TO BE FOLLOWED BY MS. REBECCA KILLIAN.

HELLO, MY NAME IS JARED KILLIAN AT 1202 SOUTH FLORES.

SO MS. KILLIAN, YOU'RE GIVING YOUR TWO, TWO MINUTES TO MR. KILLIAN? YES.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THAT'LL GIVE HIM FOUR MINUTES.

HOW DO Y'ALL MY NAME'S JARED KILLIAN AND I'M AT 1202 SOUTH FLORES.

CAN WE PUT UP THE OTHER MAP THAT'S GOT THE, LIKE THE SATELLITE MAP? IS IT OKAY IF I STAND OVER HERE AND KIND OF POINT THERE'S A POINTER.

WE HAVE A POINTER.

WE'D LIKE FOR YOU TO GO AHEAD AND SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE.

OKAY, GOTCHA.

THE SATELLITE ONE, IF YOU COULD, OKAY, SO I'M WRAPPING MY BRAIN AROUND THIS RIGHT NOW.

SO I LIVE RIGHT HERE.

SEE THIS ROOF THAT'S NOT COATED, THAT'S NOT MY FAULT.

I TOLD THEM TO COAT THAT RIGHT THERE, .

AND I'M EXCITED 'CAUSE I WAS HUNTING THIS MORNING.

MY WIFE MADE ME COME OUTTA THE WOODS TO COME HERE AND TALK A LITTLE BIT.

SO, SO THIS, I LIVE RIGHT HERE AND ALL THESE, ALL THESE CONDOS, YOU CAN ONLY EXIT IT RIGHT HERE 'CAUSE IT'S ALL FENCED IN.

SO WHEN THIS, THEY STARTED TO RENOVATE IT AND WE WANTED TO BE SUCCESSFUL TOO.

I, I THINK IT LOOKS GREAT WHAT THEY'VE DONE.

UM, BUT WHEN THEY WERE DOING THAT, PEOPLE WERE PARKING ON THIS STREET RIGHT HERE.

THIS IS A ACCESS STREET, MUCH LIKE IS BEHIND THEIR BUILDING.

WHEN SOMEBODY PARKS HERE, THERE'S NO WAY AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE CAN GET THROUGH HERE.

AND I WAS, YOU KNOW, IT'S HEARSAY AND ALL THAT.

IS THERE GONNA BE A GYM? I KEEP HEARING THAT TOO, BUT JIM PROBABLY WOULDN'T SOUND GOOD IN A MEETING LIKE THIS.

'CAUSE WITH A GYM, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE EVERYBODY THAT'S LATE FOR A WORKOUT THAT'S GONNA WANT TO PARK ALL OVER IN THESE AREAS RIGHT HERE.

MY WIFE HAS ALREADY BEEN TALKING TO THE CITY.

I THINK SHE GOT APPROVAL FOR SIGNS DON'T PARK HERE.

UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GONNA COME TO BE OR NOT.

SO, AND LIKE THEY WERE SAYING EARLIER, A LOT OF THESE HOUSES DON'T HAVE DRIVEWAYS.

AND SO WHERE ARE PEOPLE GONNA PARK? THEY CAN'T PARK ON SOUTH FLORES.

SO THEY'RE GONNA PARK ON THIS STREET RIGHT HERE BECAUSE THIS BUILDING'S GOT A FRONT DOOR, BUT IT, IT'S MAIN DOORS.

IT'S RIGHT HERE.

IT'S GOT BIG GARAGE ROLL DOORS.

SO I, I ASSUME THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF STUFF'S GONNA HAPPEN.

AND PEOPLE ARE GONNA WANNA PARK RIGHT HERE.

SO, AND IF THEY PARK HERE ON THIS STREET, THERE'S NO WAY TO BACK YOUR CAR.

'CAUSE THERE'S GARAGES RIGHT HERE.

UH, SO THERE'S NO WAY TO BACK YOUR CAR OUT IF THERE'S ANOTHER CAR PARKED ON THAT EASEMENT AND THAT AND FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN PARKING THERE.

UM, EXCUSE ME ONE SECOND, SEE IF I HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS.

OH, THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY IS THEY, THE, I HEARD IT SAID THAT THERE WAS AMPLE PARKING.

I JUST DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT AMPLE PARKING IS, BUT EVERY DAY I LOOK AT THIS PARKING LOT AND NOBODY EVER PARKS THERE.

I IT'S NOT, IT'S PROBABLY BEYOND THE PREVIEW HERE, BUT HAVE THERE, HAS THERE BEEN AN EFFORT TO FIND OFF THE STREET PARKING IF THERE'S BEEN AN EFFORT? I GET IT.

IT, IT SHOWS ME DUE DILIGENCE, BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

LIKE WE TRIED AND IT DIDN'T WORK.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

NEXT WE HAVE, UM, MR. DAVID ANYA AYALA.

SORRY.

IT'S OKAY.

AND HE'S TO BE FOLLOWED BY MS. BRANDY WAR.

THANK YOU FOR RECEIVING ME TODAY.

AND, UH, UH, YOU HEARD IT BEFORE TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC ALONG THE, THAT OTHER SIDE OF THE PORT POINTER HERE ALONG THIS SIDE TOO, AROUND YOUR, YOUR DEALING WITH CAMP STREET RIGHT NEAR, YOU'RE ALSO DEALING WITH, UH, WITH, UH, RUBY.

SO THEY HAVE THEIR OWN PARKING AREA THERE.

BUT YOU'RE GONNA FIND OUT THEY'RE GONNA BE PARKING IN THAT AREA TOO AS WELL.

WE NEED TO DEFINE WHAT IS ACTUALLY GONNA BE PUT INTO THAT BUILDING.

UM, THEY SAY THAT IT'S GONNA BE A SELF STORAGE.

IT'S, IT'S TOO SMALL FOR THAT IF THEY WANNA MAKE MONEY.

UH, SO WHAT I PROPOSED, SINCE THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT DON'T KNOW, WHAT THEY WANT TO DO IS TO GO WITH A, UM, UH, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? NOT JUST A CELLULAR TOWER, BUT A, A HOTSPOT FOR, FOR THE WHOLE AREA SO THEY CAN ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY BY STORING, UH, UH, BLESS YOU.

UH, STOR STORING, UH, INFORMATION BECAUSE ALONG THIS LINE HERE ON SOUTH FLORIDA STREET, THAT'S A T THREE LINE GOING UNDERNEATH IT.

THEY COULD TAP INTO THAT AND THEN PROVIDE A STORAGE FACILITY FOR, FOR, UH, A COMPUTER MEMORY

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THAT'S ADEQUATE FOR IT.

BUT, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT THAT OR NOT.

AND THEN AS A BONUS, IF YOU WANNA MAKE FRIENDS WITH THE WHOLE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD, PROVIDE COVERAGE, HAVE A TOWER THERE AND HAVE COVERAGE OF THE WHOLE TERRITORY FOR FREE, UH, INTERNET .

I HAVE TO BE SELFISH ON THAT.

THAT'S ALL I CAN DO.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

AND WE HAVE MS. BRANDY WARE, UH, TO BE FOLLOWED BY DEBBIE MORGAN.

HI EVERYBODY.

I'M BRANDY WARE.

I'M THE, UH, PROPERTY MANAGER FOR THE CAMP STREET RESIDENCES.

I'M NOT ACTUALLY HERE TO SUPPORT OR PROTEST THE PROPERTY.

AGAIN, WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

.

UM, I DO BELIEVE THERE ARE PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR PLACES AND THERE'S JUST NOT ANY.

THERE IS THAT EMPTY LOT ACROSS THE STREET.

IT IS PRIVATELY OWNED.

GOOD LUCK IF YOU WANNA BUY IT.

.

UM, UM, YOU KNOW, THE OWNER OF IT HAS OWNED IT FOR VERY MANY, MANY YEARS AND I THINK HE'S TRIED TO SELL IT BEFORE, BUT IT HASN'T WORKED.

WE ARE JUST CONCERNED A BIT ABOUT PARKING MOSTLY FOR OUR NEIGHBORS.

CAMP STREET'S A PUBLIC STREET.

I CAN'T PARK STOP ANYBODY FROM PARKING ON THERE.

UM, RUBY CITY HAS A PARKING LOT.

WE HAVE OUR OWN PARKING LOT.

I HAVE PEOPLE PARKING IN MY VISITOR PARKING ALL THE TIME, EVEN THOUGH IT IS, UM, PRIVATE PROPERTY, BUT IT'S COVERED.

SO, YOU KNOW, HEY, NICE SPOT TO SIT AND HAVE LUNCH.

UM, AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM.

I WOULD LOVE FOR SOMETHING TO HAPPEN WITH THE BUILDING.

I'M GLAD IT LOOKS BETTER THAN IT DID.

WE'RE ALL VERY HAPPY WITH THAT.

WE'RE NOT HERE TO REALLY SUPPORT OR PROTEST.

WE WOULD JUST LIKE MORE INFORMATION AND TO KNOW, IN MY ESTIMATION AND EVERYTHING I'VE EVER SEEN, THERE ARE PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR BUILDINGS WITH, UH, BUSINESSES.

SO JUST SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

AND LAST WE HAVE MS. DEBBIE MORGAN.

HELLO.

UM, I'M DEBBIE MORGAN.

I ACTUALLY AM WITH SEVERAL PROPERTIES.

I WOULD, I'M WITH RUBY CITY, ONE 50 CAMP STREET.

WE ALSO HAVE CHRIS PARK, WHICH IS ONE 11.

YEAH, ONE 11 CAMP STREET.

1203 SOUTH FLORES.

WE ARE THERE ON THE CORNER.

AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER SEPARATE GALLERY BEHIND CHRIS PARK.

1 1 2 WEST CHE.

SAME WITH BRANDY.

MY SENTIMENT, WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT WE WERE JUST TAKING, KIND OF TAKEN BY SURPRISE WHAT THIS PROPERTY ACTUALLY WILL BE.

UM, CAN I USE MY TIME FOR SOME QUESTIONS OR IS THAT AFTER? FOR WHAT I, WHAT MY QUESTION IS, IS YEAH, WHAT WOULD YOUR QUESTION BE? AND THEN IF A COMMISSIONER WILL ASK.

OKAY.

UM, SO IF THIS IS GOING TO BE A STORAGE FACILITY, I'M CURIOUS HOW MANY UNITS AND IS IT A LEASE LONG TERM, SHORT TERM? UM, AGAIN, WE JUST DON'T KNOW.

AND SO YEAH, I'M NOT, I'M NOT FOR OR AGAINST.

WE'RE JUST WOULD LIKE SOME MORE INFORMATION.

THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

AND YES, I WAS ACTUALLY GONNA ASK THAT QUESTION.

.

YAY.

AND THAT'S IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, MS. WEISLER, THANK YOU.

AND, AND THANK YOU TO EVERYONE.

UM, MR. KILLIAN, YOU'RE A GOOD MAN.

I DON'T THINK MY HUSBAND WOULD'VE COME BACK FROM HUNTING, UM, FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

SO, UH, THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.

UM, TO CLARIFY, UM, OUR ZONING REQUEST TODAY IS FOR OH ONE FOR OFFICE AND SELF-SERVICE STORAGE.

UM, IT DOES NOT ALLOW FOR A GYMNASIUM.

UM, THIS IS JUST PREDOMINANTLY A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE BUILDING.

UM, THERE IS A COUPLE, JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS.

UM, SO YES, WE ARE AT THIS CORNER RIGHT HERE AT SOUTH FLOORS AND DANIELLE, THERE IS A, UM, EXISTING VIA BUS STOP RIGHT THERE.

SO THERE IS PUBLIC TRANSIT OPTIONS THERE.

UM, DO HEAR LOUD AND CLEAR, UM, ABOUT PARKING.

UM, AND HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

UM, I WILL, UM, ALSO TALK WITH THE OWNERS ABOUT ANY EFFORTS MADE TO FOR COOPERATIVE PARKING IN THE AREA.

UM, THERE ARE PUBLIC STREETS THERE, UNFORTUNATELY, THIS PROPERTY IS, IS FULLY BUILT.

UM, IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED RIGHT NOW FOR MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

UM, WHICH EVEN A SMALL NUMBER OF UNITS, UM, THOSE RESIDENTS AND THEIR GUESTS WOULD HAVE TO PARK SOMEWHERE AS WELL.

UM, SO THE PROPOSED ZONING, UM, LIMITS THAT, UM, THESE ARE, THESE ARE STRICT STANDARD BUSINESS, OPERATING NORMAL OFFICE HOURS.

UM, CAN YOU FLIP TO THE SITE PLAN? SORRY.

OH, I CAN FLIP.

I'M SORRY.

OKAY, MAYBE.

THANK YOU.

SO, UM, WITHIN, WITH RESPECT TO THE BUILDING ITSELF, THIS 4,000 SQUARE FOOT AREA, UM, WHICH IS, THERE'S DANIEL AND SOUTH FLORES, THIS IS KIND OF FLIPPED AROUND IN A VERY ODD WAY.

UM,

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SO THIS, THIS 4,000 SQUARE FOOT AREA IS WHAT IS HAS HISTORICALLY BEEN USED AS WAREHOUSE SPACE INSIDE OF THERE.

SO IT'S A VERY, VERY SMALL SELF STORAGE AREA, UM, THAT'S ALREADY FABRICATED INSIDE FOR THAT STORAGE CAPACITY.

UM, AND, AND THE RUST BEING PREDOMINANTLY JUST OFFICE SPACE.

UM, THERE'S A SMALL STORAGE SPACE HERE THAT'S 169 SQUARE FEET, BUT THAT'S NOT FOR, THAT WOULD BE ANCILLARY TO THE OFFICE USE.

SO, UM, WE ARE WORKING VERY HARD.

UM, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S BEEN SOME RENOVATIONS ALREADY DONE TO THE BUILDING.

UM, AND WE ARE, THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE CONTINUING THEIR WORK ON THE REHAB INSIDE AS WELL.

UM, JUST TRYING TO ACTIVATE THIS BUILDING AND GET SOMETHING LOW INTENSITY IN THERE, UM, THAT REQUIRES AND GENERATES THE LEAST AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC AS POSSIBLE.

UM, GIVEN THAT THE PROPERTY IS FULLY DEVELOPED, UM, IT WAS A GYM BEFORE, IT IS NOT GOING TO BE A GYM NOW.

UM, BUT AGAIN, PRESERVATION OF THIS BUILDING UTILIZE IT IN THE LEAST INTENSE WAY POSSIBLE, UM, AND THE MOST CONTROLLED WAY AS POSSIBLE AND CERTAINLY SIGNIFICANTLY LESS INTENSE THAN MULTIFAMILY WOULD ALLOW.

UM, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

UH, THIS IS A DISTRICT ONE CASE, SO TO YOU COMMISSIONER KELLUM FOR QUESTIONS.

EMILY, UM, CAN YOU SPEAK REALLY QUICKLY TO THE TRANSPARENCY ISSUE THAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT? WHAT, WHAT HAS BEEN YOUR COMMUNICATION WITH THEM? YES.

SO, UM, WE HAVE REACHED OUT, UM, MULTIPLE TIMES.

UM, AND NOT UNTIL YESTERDAY DID WE GET ANY SORT OF RESPONSE FROM KING WILLIAM.

UM, THIS IS, WE HAVE ONLY RECEIVED ONE RESPONSE, UM, TO THE CITY.

UM, I CAN'T SPEAK TO TO THEIR CAPACITY, UM, PHONES WORKING OR NOT.

UM, BUT UM, YOU KNOW, I WILL SAY THAT CITY HAS ALWAYS DONE A REALLY GREAT JOB OF RELAYING OUR CONTACT INFORMATION.

UM, WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY CALLS, SO, UM, BUT REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYONE BEING OUT HERE AND HAPPY TO CONTINUE THOSE CONVERSATIONS MOVING FORWARD.

AND THEN YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT AMPLE PARKING AND I THINK ONE OF THE, UM, UH, ONE OF THE RESIDENTS MENTIONED THAT I, I DON'T BELIEVE I DID, BUT MAYBE I DID.

I'M SO SORRY.

UM, IF I DID, OBVIOUSLY THERE IS NO PARKING ON THIS PROPERTY.

UM, THE, THE SITE IS UNFORTUNATELY FULLY BUILT OUT.

UM, THERE ARE AMPLE PARKING OPPORTUNITIES IN AND AROUND, UM, THE COMMUNITY ON BOTH SIDES OF SOUTH FLOORS.

AND AGAIN, WE ARE APPROXIMATELY 55 FEET, UM, FROM DOOR TO BUS STOP.

UM, SO THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC TRANSIT IS THERE.

UM, AND SOMETHING WE ALWAYS LIKE TO ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO UTILIZE.

AND THEN OFFICE HOURS WOULD BE, IS STANDARD, THESE ARE NINE TO FIVE TYPICAL OFFICE HOURS AND FOR STORAGE THAT ACCESS IS GONNA BE NINE TO FIVE.

IT'S NOT GONNA BE CORRECT.

UM, TYPICALLY THERE IS SOME SORT OF, UM, WITH SELF SERVICE STORAGE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ACCESS AFTER HOURS, BUT THAT IS, UH, CONTROLLED AND LIMITED AND THIS IS A VERY, VERY SMALL, UM, AREA THAT'S ALREADY UTILIZED.

WE'RE NOT GUTTING THE ENTIRE BUILDING AND TURNING IT AT ALL TO SELF STORAGE.

UM, BUT THAT WOULD HAVE CONTROLLED ACCESS THERE AS WELL.

THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE FOR NOW.

ALRIGHT.

QUESTIONS, FELLOW COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.

COMMISSIONER WATSON, I AM PRETTY CONCERNED ABOUT THE STORAGE USE FROM WHAT I'M SEEING ON THIS SITE PLAN.

UM, SO YOU MENTIONED AT SOME POINT IN, I THINK IF I'M REMEMBERING CORRECTLY, THAT THIS 4,000 SQUARE FOOT SECTION THAT'S OVER HERE HAS ALREADY BEEN BUILT OUT OR WAS PREVIOUSLY, UM, DESIGNED FOR THAT USE.

CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE? YEAH, SO THAT 4,000 SQUARE FOOT, UM, IT'S, YOU CAN SEE IT'S PARTITIONED OFF BACK HERE.

IT HAS BEEN HISTORICALLY UTILIZED AS WAREHOUSING JUST OVERFLOW WAREHOUSING SPACE.

AND SO THAT IS WHERE WE ENVISION, UM, THE OWNER ENVISIONS IT BEING UTILIZED FOR CONTINUED USE OF STORAGE.

OKAY.

SO WAREHOUSING IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN SELF-SERVICE STORAGE IN MY MIND.

SELF-SERVICE STORAGE, WHEN YOU MENTIONED THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I ENVISION A CONSUMER POTENTIALLY USING.

MM-HMM.

WHO NEEDS A SMALLER UNIT THAT THEY WOULD PERIODICALLY NEED ACCESS TO.

MM-HMM.

IN ADDITION TO SOME SORT OF, UM, PARKING OR VEHICLE ACCESS TO UTILIZE THAT, THAT I THINK THAT'S VERY DIFFERENT THAN A WAREHOUSING USE, WHICH IF THERE'S, UM, AN EXISTING ROLL DOOR, WHICH I DON'T TOTALLY UNDERSTAND WHERE THAT IS FROM THE PLAN.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER QUESTION I'LL HAVE IS IF YOU CAN POINT OUT WHERE THAT EXISTING ROLL DOOR IS, UM, BEING SOMETHING THAT IF YOU'RE ASSOCIATED WITH AN ALLEY THAT'S, YOU KNOW, A GALLERY USE A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER, UM, YOU KNOW, STORING STOCK OR INVENTORY THERE, THAT'S GONNA BE A MUCH LESS FREQUENT OR ONE VEHICLE TYPE OF WAREHOUSING USE.

MM-HMM.

.

AND THAT'S A VERY DIFFERENT THING THAN SELF-SERVICE STORAGE.

UM, I THINK THAT COULD BE APPROPRIATE CONSIDERING THE EXISTING DESIGN OF THE BUILDING, BUT IN MY MIND THEY'RE NOT THE SAME THING.

UM, AND SO I WOULD LIKE ADDITIONAL CLARIFICATION SURE.

ON THAT AND WHAT THE BUSINESS PLAN AND EXISTING, UH, FACIL LIKE

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REHABILITATION OF THE PROPERTY IS AND ALSO WHERE THAT ROLL DOOR CURRENTLY IS.

YES, THANK YOU.

WE'RE JUST GETTING UP A, A BETTER MAP TO SHOW YOU THAT.

PERFECT.

UM, IS THERE A WAY TO SWITCH THAT? IS IT THE BIG SCREEN? SO THERE IS THAT EXISTING ROLL DOOR ON DANIEL STREET, YOU HAVE THAT LOADING DOCK AREA, UM, THERE AND THAT IS WHAT ADJOINS UP 4,000 SQUARE FEET AREA.

THE, THE INTENT WOULD BE TO TAKE THAT SPACE, BREAK IT UP INTO SMALLER PIECES, UM, FOR A GENERAL CONSUMER, BUT AGAIN, IT'S NOT, UM, PARTICULARLY LARGE, SO THERE'S NOT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF UNITS, UM, AND OR BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT SPACE AS ADDITIONAL OVERFLOW STORAGE FOR THOSE OFFICE TENANTS.

BUT THAT'S WHERE THAT CAPACITY IS, IS ON DANIEL.

OKAY.

SO IF THE PLAN WOULD BE FOR SELF-SERVICE STORAGE, THEN I DON'T FEEL CONFIDENT IN WHAT I'M SEEING AS THE INGRESS AND EGRESS PLANS.

UM, I THINK YOU CAN MAKE A CASE FOR THAT BEING REASONABLE.

UM, BUT I WOULD NEED TO SEE MORE DETAIL ON THE SITE PLAN INDICATING HOW THAT WOULD FUNCTION.

UM, I THINK, UH, BECAUSE IDZ DOES, SORRY, NOT IDZ, UM, BECAUSE THERE ARE, BECAUSE WE'RE IN, IT'S NOT INFERIOR, YOU'RE DELIBERATELY DOING O ONE.

IN MY MIND I THOUGHT THIS WAS IDZ BECAUSE THAT COULD MAKE SENSE SINCE YOU ARE HAVING SITE PLAN, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOW THAT FLOW WOULD FUNCTION.

I THINK YOU CAN MAKE THE CASE FOR THAT, BUT I'M NOT CONVINCED RIGHT NOW.

UM, AND ADDITIONALLY, UM, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN REALLY QUICK? UM, CAN YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS? LIKE, I UNDERSTAND THE STORAGE CLOSET 100, YOU KNOW, BUT THIS OFFICE STORAGE, IS THAT GONNA BE BUILT OUT AS INTENTIONALLY LIKE OPEN SPACE WHERE A FUTURE TENANT COULD SUBDIVIDE THAT? UM, OR IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY, BASICALLY, I'M ASKING FOR THOSE ALSO TO BECOME OTHER TYPES OF LIKE SELF-SERVICE STORAGE UNITS IN THE FUTURE? NO.

SO WHAT THE INTENT HERE, UM, THAT OFFICE SLASH STORAGE IS BECAUSE THERE IS SPACE IN THE EXISTING BUILDING FOR STORAGE TO SUPPORT THOSE OFFICE USES.

SO LIKE FILING AREAS, UM, PLACES WHERE YOU STORE YOUR OFFICE SUPPLIES THERE.

UM, BUT THOSE ARE, THAT'S WHERE THE EXISTING, UM, AND YOU CAN SEE THOSE RESTROOMS AND STAIRWELL.

UM, SO THAT IS WHAT IS ALREADY FUNCTIONING SET UP KIND OF INTERNALLY FOR THE OFFICE SPACE.

UM, AND WE DON'T HAVE A, A FINALIZED TENANT YET.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, I THINK I MAY HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION FOR YOU IN A SEC, BUT I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

UM, SO, UH, STAFF, THIS IS WITH THE OH ONE, UM, WITH A SPECIFIC USE THAT SHE MENTIONED FOR, UM, SELF-STORAGE.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN ADD AS ZIG DESIGNATION IN OH ONE? OR IS THAT PERMITTED BY RIGHT.

I JUST HAVEN'T SEEN THAT BEFORE, SO I'M CURIOUS 'CAUSE I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT.

NO, THE, THE SELF STORAGE IS MORE INTENSE.

IT'S C TWO USE AND SO THAT'S WHY IT'S GOTTA BE CALLED OUT AS PART OF THE IDZ REQUEST.

OKAY.

SO THEN THIS IS AN IDZ REQUEST.

OKAY.

SO I THOUGHT, SO I WAS LIKE, WHERE DID I, BECAUSE I HEARD IDZ EARLIER AND THEN OH ONE OVER AND OVER, SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY.

OKAY.

UM, THEN IF IT IS AN IDZ REQUEST, THEN CAN YOU, UM, JUST CLARIFY FOR EVERYONE WHAT THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS ARE SINCE SEVERAL, UH, FOLKS HAD THAT QUESTION? FOR IDZ ONE, THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS ARE WAIVED.

OKAY.

SO NO PARKING REQUIREMENTS AT ALL? CORRECT.

OKAY.

UM, AND UH, JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF FOLKS THAT ARE HERE, UM, THE IDZ ONE DOES REQUIRE THE SITE PLAN.

SO IF SOMEBODY WERE TO CHANGE THIS USE IN THE FUTURE, THE BUILDING WOULD BE SOLD, WOULD THIS SITE PLAN STILL APPLY? YES.

WHICH MEANS THEY CAN'T JUST PUT IN A GYM OR ANY OLD USE.

IT WOULD HAVE TO BE OFFICE AND AND STORAGE.

OKAY.

THANKS.

UM, AND THEN, UM, THE ADDITIONAL QUESTION I HAVE, UH, FOR YOU IS CAN YOU PLEASE WALK THROUGH, UM, YOUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS A LITTLE BIT MORE? I KNOW YOU MENTIONED REACHING OUT TO KING WILLIAM, BUT DID YOU DO ANY BLOCK WALKING? UM, WHAT FORMS OF MEANS OF OUTREACH DID YOU DO, ET CETERA? UH, SURE.

SO NO, WE DID NOT DO ANY, UM, ANY BLOCK WALKING.

UM, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF CONTACTS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WE WERE GIVEN.

UM, WE REACHED OUT TO THOSE, UM, FOLKS AND LIKE I SAID, WE DID NOT GET ANY SORT OF RESPONSE UNTIL LATE YESTERDAY.

UM, AND WE'VE BEEN REACHING OUT FOR WELL OVER A MONTH.

UM, BUT HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO ENGAGE WITH THEM.

AND I DO WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED THE OLD IDZ, WHICH ALSO WAIVES PARKING REQUIREMENTS TO MY UNDERSTANDING.

SO THERE IS NO FUNCTIONAL CHANGE ON THAT FRONT.

OKAY.

UM, THANK YOU.

AND THEN I DO HAVE ONE OTHER FOLLOW UP QUESTION.

LOOKING AT THIS, UM, SITE PLAN THAT'S STILL UP.

SO YOU MENTIONED THE 4,000 SQUARE FEET, AND UNLESS I MUST MISUNDERSTOOD THAT YOU CALLED OUT WAS ALREADY, UM, BEING USED

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FOR THAT AND WAS CONNECTED TO THE ROLL DOOR, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THE ROLL DOOR IS ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE PROPERTY OFF DANIEL STREET.

IS THAT A MISTAKE OR IS THAT ON DANIEL STREET? BECAUSE IF THAT 4,000 SQUARE FEET WAS ALREADY STORAGE THAT ATTACHED TO THE ROLLER, IN MY VIEW, THE ROLL DOOR WOULD LIKE THAT SIDE.

WOULD YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YEAH.

UM, I DO BELIEVE THAT PART OF THIS SITE PLAN IS RENOVATION AND EXISTING AND OLD.

UM, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING WAS, SO I DON'T KNOW WHY I'M POINTING TO THE SCREEN HERE IS WHERE THAT ROLL DOOR IS.

UM, AND THERE IS A PATHWAY INTERNAL TO THE BUILDING THAT GOES STRAIGHT BACK TO THAT WAREHOUSING SPACE.

OKAY.

WHAT IS, WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE PATHWAY? IS IT LIKE CONCRETE CEMENT? LIKE, I DON'T KNOW.

OKAY.

I HAVE NOT BEEN INSIDE.

OKAY.

I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

THANKS.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

UH, QUESTIONS COMM COMMISSIONER WHITSETT, YOU SAID IT'S HISTORIC, RIGHT? SO THERE'S NO OPTION TO DARE DOWN PART OF IT TO TRY TO GET YOURSELF SOME PART? CORRECT.

IT IS DESIGNATED AND I MEAN, IT'S IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND THERE'S A REAL OVERLAY.

SO THAT ALL ALSO ALL TRIGGERS OHP OVERSIGHT.

UM, BUT IT IS A HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT PROPERTY, SO YOU CAN'T EVEN TRY TO NEGOTIATE SOMETHING.

NO.

AND WE HAVE BEEN WORKING, UH, IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OHP, UM, FOR SEVERAL MONTHS, UM, AND CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM ON THE PRESERVATION OF THE BUILDING.

SO UNFORTUNATELY THERE'S, THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT DEMOING IT FOR ADDITIONAL PARKING, THAT SORT OF THING.

UM, THAT IS WHAT IT IS.

ALL RIGHT.

OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER ON MY LEFT.

COMMISSIONER ON MY COMMISSIONER REYES.

ONE QUESTION.

SO THIS WAS A GYM WITH NO PARKING REQUIREMENTS? CORRECT.

AND NOW IT'S GONNA BE OFFICE STORAGE WITH NO PARKING? CORRECT.

AND BETWEEN, I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE GYM STOPPED OPERATING VERSUS WHEN THE PROPERTY WAS REZONED SEVERAL YEARS AGO TO ALLOW FOR THE MULTIFAMILY, BUT THAT IS ALL PART OF IT.

OKAY.

YEAH.

SO MY QUESTION IS, IN YOUR OPINION, THIS, THIS CHANGE IN USE, WILL THAT DECREASE THE PARKING PRESSURE, THE DAILY PARKING PRESSURE? SIGNIFICANTLY.

THANK YOU.

THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE IN MY OPINION, YES, SIR.

ALRIGHT.

COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA, UH, TWO QUESTIONS.

NUMBER ONE, SO THE BUSINESS MODEL IS GONNA BE STORAGE AND THE OFFICE USE, IS THAT LIKE A COM, LIKE WHERE THEY HAVE A BUNCH OF LITTLE DIFFERENT OFFICES OR HOW, HOW DOES THAT LOOK TO OFFICE PLACE OR THE OFFICE USE? SO THE, THE FOCUS HERE IS PREDOMINANTLY OFFICE AND UTILIZING THE SPACE PREDOMINANTLY FOR PROFESSIONAL OFFICE.

UM, I BELIEVE THE GOAL IS A SINGULAR TENANT WITH OFFICE SPACE HERE, BUT IT COULD BE LIKE WHERE THEY HAVE 20 LITTLE CUBICLES AND 20 LITTLE OFFICES COULD BE THERE.

SURE.

AND THEN THE STORAGE, YOUR CUSTOMER IS GONNA BE SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO STORE.

ARE, ARE THERE GONNA BE DIFFERENT STORAGE SIZE ROOMS? PRESUMABLY? WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT FAR.

OKAY.

BUT JUST SOME SORT OF, SOME SORT OF STORAGE? YEAH.

OKAY.

JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU PUT YOUR CHRISTMAS DECORATIONS FOR THE 11 OF THE 12 MONTHS OF THE YEAR, THAT SORT OF THING.

GOT IT.

THANK YOU.

BUT THIS IS NOT, UM, A, A BIG STORAGE FACILITY WHERE WE'RE TALKING TENS OF THOUSANDS OF SQUARE FEET, UM, YOU KNOW, SPECIALTY CAR STORE, NOTHING LIKE THAT.

THIS IS A SMALL STORAGE OPERATION.

AND WHO'S THE OWNER AGAIN? IS IT? IS IT IT'S A, A COMPANY CALLED MIRAL HOLDINGS.

OKAY.

SO IT'S A COMPANY.

MM-HMM, OKAY.

CORPORATION.

ALRIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT? NONE.

I GOT ONE MORE.

OKAY.

CAN I GO FIRST? YEAH.

OH YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

NO, WELL, NO.

UM, AND UH, COMMISSIONER REYES ASKED THE QUESTION THAT, THAT I HAD, I WAS TRYING TO DO REALLY QUICK LOOKING AT THE UDC TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, UM, IF THIS WAS NOT IDZ, WHAT THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS WOULD BE, BUT, UM, AND, AND, UM, SO YOUR, YOUR THOUGHT IS THAT COMPARED TO WHAT IT COULD BE USED FOR CURRENTLY THAT THAT THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS WOULD BE LESS SURE.

AND, AND COMPARED TO WHAT IT HAS HISTORICALLY BEEN, AND MOST RECENTLY WITH THE CROSSFIT GYM, UM, THIS IS JUST A LOT MORE CONTROLLED AND LIMITED, UM, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS USE GOES AND, AND CERTAINLY COMPARED TO MULTIFAMILY.

OKAY.

AND THEN THE SELF-STORAGE IS SMALLER UNITS THAT YOU KNOW? CORRECT.

AND SELF-STORAGE FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH IS ONE OF, IF NOT THE MOST LIMITED, UM, CAPACITY GENERATORS OF, OF TRAFFIC AND PARKING.

UM, IT IS ONE OF THE LOWEST, IF NOT THE LOWEST USE POSSIBLE.

YES.

UM, ALRIGHT, THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS AND I WAS JUST STALLING.

SO

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GIVE COMMISSIONER WITS AT MORE TIME TO HAVE MORE QUESTIONS, BUT GO AHEAD.

YEAH, WHAT I CAN TELL FROM THE PHOTOS, IT'S BEEN VACANT FOR A LONG TIME, SIX YEARS LONGER MAYBE, WHO KNOWS.

UM, SO QUESTION MAYBE FOR YOU AND FOR STAFF ON HISTORIC, CAN YOU OPEN UP WALLS AND KNOCK WALLS OUT, LIKE ON SAY OFF THE ALLEY, CUT A BIG HOLE? YES.

YOU, YOU CAN DO INTERNAL STUFF, BUT YOU CAN'T DO EXTERNAL STUFF.

YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING TO EXTERNAL ANYWHERE.

WELL, IF YOU GET HDRC APPROVAL.

OKAY.

SO I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THEY COULD KNOCK A BIG HOLE IN THE BACK AND THEN IN FRONT AND ON THAT NORTHERN OFFICE STORAGE USE THAT FOR INDOOR PARKING JUST TO SOLVE YOUR PROBLEM.

I WISH, BUT NO.

OKAY.

, MR. CHAIR? I'VE SEEN IT DONE BEFORE, BUT, OKAY.

UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, BUSTAMONTE.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

UM, ALRIGHT.

SO MS. CHRISTIAN, UM, I THINK I SHARE A LOT OF COMMISSIONER WATSON'S CONCERNS HERE.

UM, BUT ONE THING I WAS GONNA SAY IS, YOU KNOW, I'M THINKING OF TWO THINGS AT THIS POINT.

ONE WAS THE SEAMLESS STORAGE ON MCCULLOUGH AND I THINK YOU WORKED ON THAT CASE SOME YEARS AGO.

CORRECT.

DO YOU RECALL HOW MUCH PARKING WAS, WAS USED THERE OR WAS PRESENT THERE? I GUESS I WANNA SAY IT WAS AT LEAST SEVEN OR SO SPOTS MAYBE.

RIGHT.

MAYBE I WAS THINKING FIVE.

OKAY.

I WAS THINKING FIVE.

FIVE TO SEVEN.

I'LL, I'LL TAKE FIVE.

UM, AND THE OTHER THING I WAS THINKING OF IS, UH, IF YOU GO DOWN NO GTOS FROM HERE A LITTLE BIT, UH, YOU'LL COME ACROSS FAMILY TAPESTRY OR WHAT? ONCE ONCE FAMILY TAPESTRY.

MM-HMM.

AND THEY DID HAVE SORT OF INTERNAL PARKING THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD POTENTIALLY USE SOME OF THIS SPACE FOR.

UM, SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS THAT ARE GIVEN THE NEIGHBORS, UM, CONCERNS AND GIVEN THE LIMITATIONS ON THIS BUILDING THAT I THINK ARE IMPORTANT.

WHICH BRINGS ME TO THE QUESTION, AND I THINK IT'S BEEN IMPLIED FROM COMMISSIONER WATSON, IS, IS THERE A POSSIBILITY FOR A CONTINUANCE TO WORK WITH THESE NEIGHBORS AND TALK FURTHER? I BELIEVE SO.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, FINAL ROUND FOR QUESTIONS.

ALRIGHT, UH, BACK TO YOU COMMISSIONER KELLUM FOR A MOTION.

UM, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER WATSON.

I, I THINK THERE'S STILL A LOT OF QUESTIONS TO BE ANSWERED IN THIS PROJECT.

AND SO MY MOTION WOULD BE FOR A CONTINUANCE FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS, HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THE REST THREE WEEKS.

IS IT THE 19TH IS TWO WEEKS TO THE 19TH, IS THAT TWO WEEKS? IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S THE NEXT, WE WILL DO THE TWO WEEKS.

SO THE MOTION, MY MOTION IS FOR A CONTINUANCE FOR TWO WEEKS SECOND.

ALRIGHT.

THERE IS A MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE FOR TWO WEEKS BY COMMISSIONER KALE WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON.

DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER ON MY LET, UH, COMMISSIONER WATSON.

OKAY.

THERE ARE MULTIPLE THINGS THAT I APPRECIATE ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

I JUST THINK YOU NEED TO PUT SOME MORE ENGAGEMENT AND I REALIZE THERE'S MANY FACTORS THAT, UM, IMPACT THAT.

SO THIS IS LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.

SO I APPRECIATE THE ADAPTIVE REUSE COMPONENT.

I THINK IT IS A VERY, UM, AND I APPRECIATE THE LOW INTENSITY EFFORT.

I THINK HOWEVER, IF IT'S GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL, AS WELL AS ALSO OFFSET SOME OF THE CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY TO HELP THEM UNDERSTAND SOME OF THOSE DYNAMICS THAT ARE TRUE ABOUT LOW INTENSITY AND SELF-SERVICE BEING MORE INTENSITY NEEDS TO MAKE A LOT MORE SENSE.

THE OFFICE STORAGE DESIGNATION IS A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING.

UM, IF THERE ARE SELF-STORAGE UNITS, I'D LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THAT.

UM, ANDAND HOW EVEN IF IT'S DRAWN ON THE SITE PLAN, TRAFFIC FLOW IS GOING TO WORK.

UM, IF I WERE SOMEBODY WHO WAS GONNA RENT A SELF-STORAGE UNIT, UM, WAS BRINGING, YOU KNOW, , I DON'T HAVE A TON, BUT I STILL PLACE TO PARK, UM, TO PUT THEM OR AT LEAST AN EASY WAY TO GET THEM IN AND OUT.

AND I STAND THAT FROM THIS.

UM, SO BECAUSE SO VAGUE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME BIG OTHER IDZ PROJECTS THAT HAPPEN IN DISTRICT TWO OFTEN WHERE THEY HAVEN'T REALLY THOUGHT IT THROUGH YET.

SO IT'S JUST A SQUARE, WHICH SOMETIMES WORKS AND IS BENEFICIAL.

BUT IN THIS CASE, I THINK IS A CONCERN BECAUSE OF HOW UNIQUE THE PROPERTY IS.

ALSO BECAUSE IT'S RUNNING STREET AND SIDEWALK, IT WOULD BE NICE TO, UM, I MEAN I WOULD PREFER TO PROBABLY SEE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE ACTIVATED FOR, UH, AND ACTUALLY BE A USE THAT PEOPLE WHO USE TRANSIT DO AS SOMEBODY WHO FREQUENTLY DEPENDS ON IT.

I LIKE BEING ABLE TO WALK TO SOMETHING THAT I CAN USE.

UM, SO A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THAT OFFICE USE IS

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SINCE IT'S NOT GONNA BE A COFFEE SHOP OR A STORE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT SOMEBODY WHO LIVES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD COULD EASILY WALK TO AND BENEFIT FROM.

UM, SO IF IT'S GONNA BE ONE TENANT OR IF THERE'S MORE INGRESS, EGRESS FLOW, BETTER LABELING A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE FLOOR PLAN OR AT LEAST EXPLANATION OF WHY THIS IS THE FLOOR PLAN, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, AND THEN HOPEFULLY KING WILLIAM GETS BACK.

BUT ALSO I WOULD ENCOURAGE FOR THIS CASE, SINCE WE HAVE A BIG COMMUNITY PRESENCE BLOCK WALKING AND POTENTIALLY HOSTING A PUBLIC MEETING WITH THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS, UM, TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THEIR CONCERNS AND EXPLAIN SOME OF THE, THE BENEFITS WHICH I AGREE WITH ABOUT TRYING TO DO LOWER INTENSITY USE SO THAT THERE'S FAMILIARITY AND UNDERSTANDING.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSION ON MY LEFT.

COMMERS ON MY COMMISSIONER OSA.

I THINK THE BIGGEST ISSUE, JUST TO ECHO ALL THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS IS THE PARKING.

IF WE HAVE AN OFFICE BUILDING OR AN OFFICE STRUCTURE, PEOPLE ARE COMING IN AND OUT.

I MEAN, WHERE ARE THEY GONNA PARK BETWEEN NINE TO FIVE.

UM, IDEALLY YOU WOULD HAVE A PARKING LOT, BUT I KNOW THIS ZONING DOESN'T GIVE YOU ACCESS.

OR YOU CAN HAVE THE ZONING WITHOUT THE PARKING.

BUT IF YOU BRING IN AGAIN, AN OFFICE AND THEY'RE GONNA BE WORKERS NINE TO FIVE, I THINK THAT'S YOUR BIGGEST ISSUE.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO, I MEAN THAT'S ABOVE MY PAY GRADE, BUT I THINK IF YOU CAN FIGURE SOMETHING OUT WITH PARKING, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT START.

THANK YOU.

IF I COULD JUST FOLLOW UP ON THAT.

SURE.

'CAUSE I FORGOT THIS.

YEAH, SO IF YOU MAKE AN EFFORT TO LIKE HAVE A COOPERATIVE PARKING PLAN AND HAVE SOME PROGRESS ON THAT, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL IN ADDRESSING THAT ISSUE INSTEAD OF JUST THE SIDE STREETS, WHICH I THINK IS GONNA BE A PROBLEM FOR NEIGHBORS.

UM, SO NOT THAT IT HAS TO BE SOLIDIFIED, BUT JUST SOME ATTEMPTS AND SOME PLANS TOWARD THAT.

UM, AS MUCH AS PEOPLE, WE WANNA ENCOURAGE TRANSIT USE, THAT'S A HARD SELL.

AND AS MUCH AS IF YOU DON'T USE IT FREQUENTLY AS SOMEBODY WHO HAS TO DEPEND ON THE BUS AND LIVES A MILE FROM EVERY BUS, IF I HAVE TO WALK TO, IT'S A HARD, IT'S A HARD THING TO, TO JUST MAGICALLY MAKE HAPPEN WITHOUT SOME ADDITIONAL THINKING AND PLANNING AND PERHAPS INTENTIONAL, YOU KNOW, DESIGN CHOICES THAT WOULD ATTRACT A TENANT OR A TYPE OF BUSINESS THAT WOULD BE OPEN TO THAT.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT.

UM, WELL SAID EVERYONE.

I AGREE.

UH, MOTION IS FOR A CONTINUANCE.

ROLL CALL.

VOTE PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES.

COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES.

COMMISSIONER NOOSA? YES.

COMMISSIONER REYES? YES.

COMMISSIONER BUS.

AYE.

COMMISSIONER HUEY AYE.

COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES.

COMMISSIONER WIT? YES.

COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES.

CHAIR SIPES? YES.

MOTION PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE.

ALRIGHT, WELL WE'LL SEE YOU IN TWO WEEKS AND WHEN WE DO CONTINUANCES, THEY KIND OF MOVE UP TO THE TOP OF THE LIST, RIGHT? THAT'S THE GOOD NEWS.

OKAY.

THAT'S THE, SO THAT'S THE GOOD NEWS.

SO,

[Approval of Minutes  ]

ALRIGHT.

I BELIEVE WE HAVE MINUTES UP FOR DISCUSSION.

ANY CORRECTIONS ADDITIONS TO THE MINUTES? IF NOT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS SUBMITTED.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS SUBMITTED BY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARDOS.

UM, DISCUSSION.

I'M NOT SEEING ANYTHING.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? HEARING NONE.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

UM, DO WE HAVE A DIRECTOR'S REPORT? NO.

EXCITING TIMES THOUGH.

NEXT TIME IS, UH, THE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT CONSIDERATIONS.

SO WE DO EXPECT A CROWD FOR THAT MEETING.

ARE WE HAVING PIZZA? YOU'RE HAVING SOMETHING? I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING.

ALRIGHT, MR. CHAIR.

ALRIGHT, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER BARDOS, YOU HAVE A QUESTION? QUESTION.

I KNOW WE HAVE A MEETING ON DECEMBER THE THIRD, BUT ARE WE MEETING ON DECEMBER THE 17TH? QUESTION MARK? PROBABLY YES.

I'VE ONLY GOT A COUPLE MEETINGS LEFT AS CHAIR.

I'M GONNA TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ALL OF THEM.

NO CANCELLATIONS AT ALL? WELL, WE CAN MAKE THE DECEMBER 3RD VERY LONG.

, UH, NAH.

NO, I THINK WE, WE WE'RE STILL SCHEDULED TO HAVE THAT.

YES.

YOU'RE SCHEDULED FOR ALL OF THAT.

THE WHAT WE WILL BRING YOU THOUGH IS THE CALENDAR FOR NEXT YEAR BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE TO MOVE THAT FIRST MEETING OF, OF JANUARY.

OH, THAT IS TRUE.

THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WE PROBABLY WON'T CANCEL, WE WON'T CANCEL THE DECEMBER ONE IS THE FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY.

IS IS, YEAH.

IS USUALLY CANCELED OR, OR MOVED.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, WELL, LET'S SEE WHO WENT.

DO WE HAVE TO DO A WE DON'T DO A MOTION TO ADJOURN, BUT WE ALWAYS WE DID THAT SHOULD THOUGH, RIGHT? WE SHOULD, RIGHT.

YOU HAVE TO DO ONE BY MOTION.

DO ADJOURN.

NO OBJECTION.

THERE YOU GO.

ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHT, WE'RE GONNA SLAM IT DOWN.

THE TIME IS FOUR 12 IN THE ZONING COMMISSION OF SAN ANTONIO.

IT IS ADJOURN.

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THANK YOU.